#beta-discussion
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@hollow compass Oic, I'll try it. Thank you so much.
Flashbacks to when Android 11 couldn't play Beta during prophecy testing and the bug still went live. 
Oh no... Android 12 releases for Pixels next month... Hopefully there isn't any issues
Maybe it will fix some of the issues 
Hello i have some questions about a image some one from a beta send me
You can post it in #beta-screenshots-videos unless it contains hackers
So how many people ended up being able to join beta yesterday cause of how the live update took you to TestFlight hahahha
I can't go Vault and Eden.. I reported bug.. I deleted all data and cashes..How can I do..?
Wait for a fix 

It took you to Testflight but didn't magically grant you access to Beta
A similar thing happened with the MOTD a while back lol
I know it’s random but mann, i would do anything to get the old music sheet 22 back
It would bring me joy while playing it
Why it's been removed?
Not sure, perhaps it didn’t match the vibe that team was going for
not saying i hate the new version but i personally think old one was better, more fun
its the same piece of music but toned and slowed down to a sadder tone to fit in with the story i suppose
You aren’t the only one, I miss it too. The new version might fits better, but the old was more fun to play with friends in my opinion. Backside of being in beta, we miss things which never made it to live.
Assembly cheese cape ult for instance
Part of me kinda wishes that cape was given to a regular season spirit rather than scrapped entirely, I didn’t think it was fitting for an ult, but I did like the cape on its own
It was an interesting cape for sure.
Maybe they can repurpose it for a future event, or at least use the idea. A blanket cape tied around the sky kid is a cute idea
We need a patch update (for live) for Days of Summer and Days of Summer Lights, right?
waiting for beta update where they fix crash bug
Ladies, gentlemen and non binary friends
"days of summer when?" is officially over
Hopefully we will get the Live update soon regarding "update to Hair Accessories placement" , Days of Healing Flower really clips a lot to almost all of hairs available.
Edit: Uzephi, I hope not, that would be discouraging to a handful of players that "might" be affected.
I wonder if Android 8.0 will still have the black screen when they push the update for DoS...

When Days of summer
collect up to a certain amount of Light for their candle meters
At least they fixed the AFK on the tree problem during Days of Bloom without having AFK=No Candle lights during CR
we have some fixes for crashes and the black screen that have been tested internally extensively, but to avoid hacks/leaks/spoilers, those fixes were not released to beta due to other in-development content.
I smell something exciting cooking in tgc 
as with anything, it's entirely possible some devices may still be affected because we don't have 3000+ different devices on hand to individually test, but when we do get reports of severe issues like that it's super important to include your device information because we will do our best to get a hold of that device type to verify fixes that we are unable to reproduce.
How do I put this, and if you don't mind me asking... Is it rather difficult, the development process for items and content? How does the workflow progress when it comes to new content? Do items have to be in the game prior to proper activation, or are they just early prototypes and ideas that slip in some builds?
depends on the nature and scope of the project, and how far along in the development pipeline.
art and audio is usually the last pass for anything, so most content is filled placeholders and ugly blockouts to make sure the stuff under the hood works correctly, once things are in a more stable state, placeholders are removed and finalized assets are added.
nice to see some anti leak measures being taken
Can't believe Ktjn would call Rally an ugly blockout 😔
I read this and imagine Flex Seal sprayed all over the placeholders. 
the absurd thing is these people benefit absolutely nothing from leaking alpha content that is normally not released until beta, this is simply just for the sake of hacking
hey beta players! just wanted to ask: for the single beach recliner, does it work like the hammock from assembly? like, can you lie on it and talk to people?
You're given an option to sit. Whether it opens a chat channel, I wouldn't be able to test and didn't test.
essentially, it's just another form of attention-seeking behavior.
90% of them are just using tools made by other people and have zero coding knowledge. It's pretty sad, tbh.
How many phones do you guys have on the warehouse for testing?
More than likely at least one of each "popular" SoC. Dev stats would most likely help them know which devices actively play Sky.
Huh, what about the RAM?
Different DIMMs wouldn't matter in the long run. It isn't as if a 4Gb model phone compared to a 6Gb model phone with the same SoC would be any different on a HAL level to matter much to care about that. What would really matter is OEM Firmware might be a bit different. That's why Dev stats would be key to know out of all the Snapdragon 670s out there, which phones with the SD670 are most used for their game. That would be the one they would choose over the others.
They just want to spoil the hell of it and add some internet points (aka upvotes)
Imagine that Google Release a Global Android version that is intent for Game/App Developer that can limit RAM usage and Underclock CPU without Rooting
New event excitement 
Just out of curiosity, I noticed the shrunken parasol model is sticking around.
Was this just a final creative decision from tgc or, are there plans to adjust down the line?
Project Treble and DSUs are a thing... https://developer.android.com/topic/dsu
I guess u can #live-feedback on that?
the summer parasol has normal size atm in beta, it's no longer smol
I think the preview same size as beta?
but people did say it's still smaller than the first iteration (?)
ram temporarily stores information that the processor, or CPU should i say, generates. naturally you would adjust towards the infrastructure of the processor, since it's the one doing the work.
Me telling my future grandsons: Please collect Black and White Tier 2 Capes for me when they arrive in live game in future
🫂 💙
Hey everyone, are we allowed to talk about days of summer and the stuff in it in casual chats now, or is it still considered beta?
Whatever was given in the #news and it's links. Some item's functionality weren't in the blog post.
Thank you 😁
Since the days of summer event is so close, does that mean that the build during that event testing will be active, or is it the most recent one? 
It's a new build. Beta builds and live build numbers are always different. There may be under the hood polish between a beta build and live's similar build... Especially with the time we last had an update...
If the updoot arrives with the build that beta is currently on, it's rendered unplayable.. Unless they have another trick up their sleeve
It won't be the same build as beta: #beta-discussion message
Ooohhhh that.. That's really smart actually, tgc the true masterminds? 
Minecraft
what
😩 Minecraft
what
Minecraft
/j
That's not beta nor even Sky related. Please keep on topic.
This is Sky Server and Beta channel
please keep topics about Sky beta and not random unrelated things
Ok
Oh hey, is that a new meditation spot today?
It's been a while, yes. But the shrine has always been there.
hii I’m not a beta tester but I’m wondering if the lantern can recharge ur wings?
What about the small brazier?
well nvm
Let's not bring that topic up. 
Hello u get a reaction answer in here
Oooh! Thank u haha didn’t see it
is crash bug? i kept crashing in vault ,hidden forest also sanctuary
Is there a reason why those haven’t released on live yet?
There was nvr any specific schedule but ya these two r so far apart from the previous releases 
could simply be down to TGC's idea of good pacing for adding extra content for endgame players to go after; right now doesn't look like the best of times when the announced summer events also place additional pressure on hearts
True, if it were to release now i would probably spend all my hearts on them immediately 
Tier 2 Capes r never meant to be event items , it is something extra only for vets to collect and the previous ones also come near events so events are probably not the main reason why they are delayed. From what i see, its just TGC not planning to release it yet.
I think they just meant that it would put more pressure to players since there will be upcoming Summer Event in which some items require hearts to unlock.
Yes, but tier 2 items are long term goals that will always be there. So there is no rush.
How do play beta testing
I agree blep but I imagine people with high level of gear acquisition drive mantraing it themselves 
How to install beta testing on Android
When a beta update finally happens 
Ktjn predicted there won't be update for weeks
We seriously need one on live though 😪
^ want to finally be able to play instruments again
The keys.. I wish they were slightly larger? Some devices have larger or smaller keys for some reason 
Maybe, in live I’m not able to play instruments because other players chat box or avatars take priority. Also some notes don’t press for some reason
Doors lagging
Rumor
Since tgc announced days of summer in the news section, one of the past beta updates is gonna be coming to live soon. So uh... no more krill tricks in live Sadly.
hack, report them
Hacker MAN
I have a couple of questions about the upcoming events
Will the campfire item be an in app purchase or can I get it with candles?
Will the summer lights lantern be coming back? And if so, will it cost real money?
Summer lights lantern is posted in #news
Bonfire prop is ultimate gift from old season so not obtainable anymore
The campfire from days of summer photo is not obtainable, decoration at homespace only
Days of summer and Days of summer lights are different?
ktjn said there wouldn’t be an update for weeks.. ahhhh
I don’t mind if it’s unfinished we just wanna see and support your content tgc 😭
I'd rather they take their time and release it when they're ready for us to properly test it in a way that will be beneficial for them
Exactly. Don’t want to deal with more black screens even though I have never personally experienced one.
This tbh..if they release it early there will be moree bugs
so better let them take their time
Not just that, but releasing content in a majorly unfinished state would likely just result in people complaining about how bad it looks and pointing out things that TGC would already know and planned on changing so the feedback would not really be helpful
Like how some folks treated Season of Assembly
the old ults in assembly said bye and some said hello
For a sec i thought we are in assembly season in live 
I rather wait long time for the new season than see them release an app crashing content
there are too many bugs in Live currently that makes the gameplay frustrating
Hi, does anyone know when they will finally add improved black and white capes to the live version?
!omgomgwhen
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
It's very sad. Have the developers definitely not forgotten about these capes? Ahaha. How long have they been on the beta version?
this has happened for months, for that reason I stopped playing the piano
I'm not a dev myself, so can't know for sure, but I doubt they forgot about the capes. I wasn't in beta long enough to know when they came, but I think you should be able to find the answer in #beta-announcements (or #beta-screenshots-videos to see when they appear first). However, keep in mind that the amount of time some object was in beta has no influence on when it will come to live.
Is the bunny thing gonna come along as soon as Days Of Summer starts?
No, it’s coming with Days of Summer Light starting in September
Please read the blog post in #news or ask in #questions-and-help since this is Live related. 
Yes 😭
goodbye to my beloved wls, you will be missed 
This. Live has been a pain ever since the last major update and meanwhile most things are already fixed in beta. Why??
Because there are some crazier, even more painful bugs in Beta 
the beta version is quite literally unplayable for some people
Ktjn has also explained console certification times vary greatly from mobile, and that slows the update releases down 
does anybody know what happened to the colored trail spells? didnt they mean to add them to the spell shop at one point?
They said they were thinking about it, it wasn't confirmed 
I don’t think that was ever explicitly said, just that they have “more plans” for them in the future iirc
Ye
Hi, can someone please tell me where is the first spirit to relive? I’ve looked around and I don’t see any shining…
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
Oop i dont know that
In the dailies
Is it Daily Quest Spirit? If so, that's Wise Grandparent at Vault Archives
Edit: sorry, I looked at my screenshot yesterday 😆
Edit again: Turns out I was right, it was Wise Grandparent located at Vault Archives.
That’s the second, the one that prays inside the 4p doors right? There’s another one that I can’t find 👀
1st Daily Quest Spirit is Wise Grandparent 
3rd Daily Quest was I think was Praying Acolyte, you need 4 players to get past the door or chibi fall
The archives (aka vault maze) is beyond the 2 player door on first floor
Aaaah, then wiki is wrong, thanks 😊🙏
Where is the wiki wrong?
Skybot, the wiki isn't something I can test in beta...
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
skybot
please
well YOURE not that deep
take that
We'll release them when we're ready to—no ETA at this time—the announcement of release would be included in Live patch notes posted in #news when the time comes.
Do we already know when the season will come out? I mean... is the date of release of the season in beta correct?
Me: there's new season leak! What do you think will be the emotes?
Friend: omg it's season of flight right? maybe a bird call would be nice
Me: ah well I have good news for you 🤡
Friend: omg is there bird call!?
Me: 👁👄👁 ...
It’s alright, I had that exact thought a week ago
No and no, MOTD in beta is never to be trusted. It’ll be announced in #beta-announcements once it’s ready for testing
Oki ty❤
Hello guys! Can anyone answer me about how much the little prince's pants cost?
200 candles, they were announced in the 0.14.0 live patch notes awhile back
Hi all, I know the summer hat has been announced but are there any videos from people in beta that show what it looks like on all the hairstyles currently in the wardrobe?
Not all I would think. Some hairstyles were near impossible for some testers to get, like
. If there are any videos with popular hairstyles, it would be in #beta-screenshots-videos.
I don't mind if it isn't literally all, but most of them is fine. Thank you, I will take a look
I'm sure people will be quick to make guides as soon as they are out in Live
In general, testers are discouraged from making guides and the nature of Beta makes it hard to have everything as Uzephi mentioned. But we do like to document stuff during testing 
Bear in mind tho, there was an 'update to the placement of hair accessories to make it clip less', several builds ago*(in Beta)* that may or may not be included if there will be a patch update for Days of Summer on Live.
Okay
From what I can gather, the new props show as season of assembly items when worn on the back in beta. I assume we don't know what they will look like worn on the back for real until they come to live?
We might know what they look like later on in the beta testing progress, but for right now yeah, they'll show up as backpacks. From what I remember, TGC often uses that as a placeholder graphic because the final models sometimes take longer to design, I believe? 
What do you mean by Assembly ? They are already in live
In Live the only one with Bags are The Pot, the Fire Pots, and the Pillow, rest of it not in a Bag
I meant the assembly backpack, for the items like the beach chairs, deck chairs, brazier and pipe
If it's in a backpack, that means that the item is meant to be used in shared spaces. It's like how the meditation shrines have the gratitude symbol on them. Its not to link those items to the season itself, just shared spaces, which came from assembly
@forest shoal sorry, I was gonna reply, pinging so that you can see this
how do I admire sapling in vault??? first time I see this quest and kinda … confused 💀
There's a little bench with a really really tiny sapling in front of it somewhere on the first floor of vault. Stand near it and the counter in your quest menu will go up.
Hmm.. it probably because they are props or not usable things
So TGC decided to just make them into BackPack
Just like if we have Camping in real life
hi, just wanted ask something: do i have to go through eden to be able to see and/or test changes in homespace?
What changes in homespace are u expecting to see?
the thing affected by eden completion is just past seasonal spirits appearance afaik
mini events similar to Days of Bloom, will i be able to test them even if i dont go through eden?
From what i know, many things are locked by valley completion such as TS and daily quests. Maybe 'Days of' too. But there's no event at the moment in beta
If you're joining beta for testing, then you should definitely be prepared to go through Eden. If you can't do it at the moment because it makes your game crash, then that's another story.
Still here waiting for update
It's not coming this week. or maybe ?
I’m happy for a break.
Yep, i was right. not soon
How to list beta version
#beta-faq You already asked this in QnH channel. The reply is the same.
Tq
Feels like we need new channel "Questions to beta" 🤣
No, we need a dedicated channel names #how-to-join-beta
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Seriously, there is a FAQ. Just read it or direct people to it, because it contains all you need to know. 
Idk how to say this in eng but some people say they started play beta at first time even tho they haven't played even sky live. I can't understand why they are beta players
You can always explain the difference between the two to them, and direct them to the Live game. But ultimately it's up to them if they want to risk losing everything.
Few minutes ago I met a player who started play beta and he haven't played sky live, so I told him that "you have to install sky live before starting beta player", "Sky beta for testing". But he didn't listen and he said just "F /you".......
It's really sad thing for me, hope beta players are all tester
Oof, I'm sorry. That's very rude of them. I know I've found a couple players before who weren't even aware that they were playing Beta... I don't know how it happens, but I suppose the best we can do is try to explain it to them and hope they go install Live instead. Live is a much smoother, much cheerier experience anyways. 
I mean, it's always up to them if they wanna play Live or not. You shouldn't tell them that they have to play Live first before Beta.
Thanks for replying. yup I think it's the best way we keeping explain to them about beta, too. I hope so too. 
Thanks for replying. Yup finally it's up to them if they wanna play live or beta. But the number of beta players is limited...so
What happened to the special wedges tier 2 black and white capes had? Did the devs remove it?
its kinda weird if they treat beta as a substitute for live and not a testing environment
What I have learnt by now is that don't give too much thought into what others are doing in beta. If you see anything illegal or unethical report them , there is nothing else we can do.
Thanks for replying. "Don't give too much thought into what others are doing in beta"...yup that's totally right. I will do think so next time, thanks
That wasn’t final, so *I assume it must’ve been a placeholder
we haven't seen that wedge style again 
I also meet few people in beta who dont know whats going on and how to play. How they get in to beta, it's hard to get invitation, need to be very fast. Even if you get invitation not always you can to download app, i tried from last autumn and just in last wave sucsceed 🙄
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
‘Tis the nature of beta, it’s hard to let go of an early unfinished version sometimes

I agree with you in that beta is no substitute for live and people playing there should realize what beta is for. There is nothing wrong, though, with preferring the testing environment. I myself find the testing to be far more interesting. I love discovering bugs and dealing with the extra challenges they can be when I play. There is never a dull moment in beta 🥳
there is definitely no problems in preferring beta because its chaotically fun (we have plenty of those people here
)
but its something else when a small marginal of people expects the same experience in live, while taking advantage of free IAP items
Or, when they play beta and complain about there being so many bugs 
Or in general using Beta as their main account without having a live just expecting it to always be there. I bet those people will be really upset whenever Beta ends or possibly resets.
The chance is low that it’ll happen again, but never 0.
I would like to comment on the beta, but my game is always crashing when I enter a map
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
!thatskybug report it on #beta-bugs-android and/or #beta-bugs-ios 
To report a Sky bug to TGC, follow the instructions at the bottom of the read-only #report-a-live-bug 
You can also read more detailed instructions in the link below! 
#questions-and-help message
Now that there's no season or event and my beta friends are offline more like dead, beta feels lonely 
Ah, such is the nature of beta

They'll hopefully guaranteed to be back when new content arrives 
there's always live 
Yes. It's wise not to forget beta is for testing.
I can see them making feedbacks on playstore about the game being too buggy and unplayable lmao
I'm pretty sure it's not the first time someone asks this but
When someone leaves sky beta in android, can another person get in? or will that place only be open when they open the ios ones?
if someone quits testing on android someone else can fill that space right away
IOS users can only get in on Sky Beta thru Invite waves
I believe only Android players can do it
Since IOS have different ways and Nintendo also already Closed
oh okay! I thought that the free places were open just when there's invite waves like in ios. Thanks
Anyway
Have anyone getting information about the UG of Lightseeker Umbrella back to Sky as Spell or Pins ? I have been seeing some information going around by Nastymold
But i don't remember we did test something like this before (?)
AFAIK, Nastymold is referring only to those who pre-ordered the actual item render of Lightseekers UG
on thatskyshop. By the looks of it, I'm guessing they received a private notification/s that there will be tweaks to it. 
I mean, I don't know any details about it since I didn't pre-order one.
contact us – thatskyshop
I’m sorry but may I ask one question.I saw someone selling beta qualified account online,who can I go for to report that person?
I think Thathelpbot is the best place to report this
selling something that could basically be wiped, totally a scam
Thank you!I just did
Or if you want it be quick
Go to TGC official Website
Scroll Down
Click on Contact Us
Look for Contact Us
Fill in the Form with your Report
You will get Email notification and the TGC staff will soon reply to your mail
They are pretty quick at replying and responding
Aight thankssss🙏🏻
I have been trying to get into beta testing forever but its so complicated
Not really, but invites are more random now. Just follow the guide in #beta-faq and you'll be as ready as you can be.
its been a while since the last beta updates...
Ktjn stated there won't be update for weeks
I hope there is an update on aug 12th since days of summer starts from there and hopefully the keyboard 🎹 can be fixed and hope other player can see the note while I play as well
Wrong topic maybe? 🙂 This is beta testing discussion. Beta updates frequency have nothing to do with live ones.
waiting double candle cake...
Am i the only one who still got the black screen issue

There hasn't been any update recently so no.

Invites this time was pretty late at my time
anyone knows where's the tree sapling from today's daily? 
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
It's at the Prairie social.
thank you skybot 
If you are on asia country, wake up early to check if there's beta invites outgoing, If you lucky you may get a frame of "Wall of Beta testers"
I kind of like that they are random, for one, no ones camping out anymore for them
I low key wish the black and white 2nd tier capes have a gold lining, the silver lining on black kind of looks meh
People would .. definitely camp the beta channels to an unhealthy degree until the more spaced out system was introduced. Though I'm glad i got in for the sanc cycle
And since.
We must but we cannot because to report them we must enlighten them and all of them always refuse to do so 
Don't worry too much about them, it's not worth it. And we can't change it... Report when you can, and ignore them otherwise...
Does anyone know when the tier 2 black and white capes are coming to live?
Beta players don't know the release schedule for items. They'll be released when TGC is ready for it to happen
#beta-discussion message
Hi guys, I’ve been looking for that sapling in prairie social for half an hour now and it’s driving me crazy. Anyone can tell me where to find it please?
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
Ooooh dang sure, bot
yk its in praire lobby..some people posted pics about them with it in #beta-screenshots-videos
It's just tiny because the event is over
Go into Prairie and fly to the left, once you see the bench on top of the hill, stay there
Yeah, tried to decipher those… no success
Is sky beta servers down for everyone? Or just me 😞
Also down for me.
Let’s just hope they are trying to get it ready for the upcoming new season, so it won’t take forever for the servers to be fixed
Right in the middle of burning the big plant at the end of Forrest. Haha can’t collect wax 😭
same for me, someone tried to add me as a friend but i couldn’t accept cos of the server errorㅠㅠ
Am patiently waiting for Live and Beta update 
Weird, I was able to get on. However, the game took much longer to load than normally
guys, why does my game crash when i'm in the forest?
!thatskybug #beta-bugs-android and/or #beta-bugs-ios 
To report a Sky bug to TGC, follow the instructions at the bottom of the read-only #report-a-live-bug 
You can also read more detailed instructions in the link below! 
#questions-and-help message
Is anyone still getting the error message
Right as I got finished ascending and about to collect my AC candles, error message 😭😭
How to join beta testing
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Has anyone gotten hearts from the heart meditation shrines in Forest social and Orbit? I have never been able to make them activate a meditation circle. Is this a beta bug or are these no longer a thing?
I dun think this is a thing in beta, since survey doesn't pop up in game ... so no free candles.. should be similarly for the forest social and orbit one since it is for rating the beta game..I might be wrong on this, do correct me if i am
Is anyone else having server issues?? ^^
Yeah they’re probably doing server maintenance.
They don’t announce beta maintenance lol
The Tier 2 Capes nvr have any schedule, but its true that they r so far apart from the other Tier 2 releases
im waiting since the first batch arrived in live
I can’t join beta game 😭 server error?
They did mention it's a 'staggered release'
hey um, does anybody notice the server being slow
edit: oh my god its going on all day?! Goodbye daily quests for today, lol.
Yall playing beta rn?? 
i managed to get in
No, i mean there's nothing to do 🧍♂️
OH MY GOD I THINK ITS WORKING AGAIN
I could join but after a few minutes again server error 😩
Haha Nope! Still down. Maybe they are adding more servers? Due to the 3 platforms and “Sky” 🚀 rocketing downloads 🤷🏻♀️ just guessing. Haha
Be patient, Relax
It is probably just Emergency Server Fix/Maintenance
It is normal if we didn't get any notification
Others game also did something like this before, no notification then suddenly just Emergency Maintenance
are they doing maintenance right now?
Could they be doing an update?
maybe we're gonna get the pendant for the new season updated! Do I have to spoiler even if its in beta discussion?
IIRC, a Dev mentioned "probably" couple more weeks before an update. Emphasis on probably
hi, will the asteroid jacket be limited or is it coming back in the future?
Once a lifetime I guess :((
beta seemed to be down just now my wax collected didn't registered at all lol
Nope — we don't use spoilers in Beta discussion. Beta chat assumes that everyone here is pretty familiar with the game already, and so things about Eden, Office, Oreo, etc., aren't spoilers here. And since it's beta, testing beta content is what we're all about, so no need to spoiler it! 
(Beta content isn't allowed to be discussed outside of this channel though, even in spoilers.
)
Yeah Ame, it comes and goes, I was able to log in half hour ago tho
Hmm I was able to log in just fine
Considering how much of that message I would have to censor normally if I wrote it, I feel like I’m laying my eyes upon unholy words 
yea, but i got server error althou i can login and my wax isn't registering?
same thing
I hear you. It took some getting used to at first for me too. 
But it would be much harder to beta-test bugs in, say, Orbit or Storm if we had to constantly filter any spoilers on Eden in order to discuss what's happening, so it makes things much more efficient. 
(...Y'know, that actually raises a question that I don't know the answer to, so while everyone's waiting for the servers to come back, I'd be interested if any of y'all know the answer: say I were to encounter a glitch in Eye of Eden in Live, how would I spoiler it in a bug report? Do I have to spoiler things in a live bug report, or is it just assumed that bug reports might contain spoilers?)
BRUH THE SPOILERS OH MA GOD 
You can't spoiler tag in bug reports, so anyone reading those are doing it at their own "risk". Those reports are meant for TGC devs first and foremost anyway. 🙂
Alright, cool, thanks, good to know. Wanted to make sure I wasn't accidentally messing stuff up in bug reports. 
is beta still in server error??
Yeah
I’m getting a “failed to connect” error message. Edit: I’m not complaining. Just stating what I’m experiencing. 🙂
Go play Live, then. 🙂
Oh I thought it was me
Is beta server down??

Got this login page
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Okay
feel relieved
I thought I was kicked out of beta
Whew~
I’m getting that message, too!
No need for aggression :( I’m sure they’re just saying that the servers are still down and I’m sure they’re aware they can play live in the meanwhile
yeah, they clarified
What aggression?
It's now restored. 
IDK why but sky beta crash in forest please help me
#beta-known-issues - if your device has a Mali GPU you'll most likely experience crashes upon entering or progressing in realms
Is sky beta server down? Ok yes...I must read up more next time
“Go play live, then 🙂.” No matter how I try to read this with the most neutral voice, i do feel it to be a sentence laced with a slight sarcasm.
I mean obviously one would go play live without being told the obvious. The point of this thread is to discuss issues that come up in beta if and when they do.
The sentence almost falls into the same vein as being told to put something into feedback, which weirdly has some of the following connotations:
- When someone is clearly stating a controversial opinion and people no longer want to aggravate a conversation further, the person is told to “put it into feedback”
- When someone genuinely considers an idea to be “good” and tells the person “make sure to put it into feeedback!”
Idk.. If it wasn’t aggression or sarcasm, then I apologize.
Text doesn't translate tone well. If it is coming across sarcastic or flippant to you. It's best to ask kindly or take a 5 min break on something else and come back and see if you feel the same way
I think you're reading too much into it.
If Beta is inaccessible for hours, there's really no point in discussing it here. Besides there's not much to test in the current build since it been days/weeks since the last update.
I’ve felt the same after coming back 5 minutes later too haha, idk why that sentence was even brought up tbh :\
If someone says that beta is down, I’d respond usually with “ oh yea it’s down for me too!’ Or just ignore it altogether..
hmmm.. it’s honestly not a big deal really lol
I only explained cause I was asked to explain 
Alright respect to all. Sorry for jumping in , was not needed. Let's focus on testing beta and willing the servers get back up when TGC are back in the office
not a big deal, it could've been worded better
“Beta has been experiencing server issues, I suggest playing on Live until it gets fixed” sounds much better than “go play live then”
Generally because text cannot convey tone well, I take it to mean the exact literal of what it says. And sometimes, the literal, can be blunt hahaha XD
Either ways, it seems beta severs have been on and off today. Personally, I’ve been able to log in at times and my wax is administering too... but the server as a whole seems to be rather slow at responding :<
regarding "light bloom" quest, I'm quite curious but the servers got to me before I test.
I did visit startlight desert tho and the flowers there isn't it.
was about to try the sapling after but yk what happened.
I will check them later if it's Mushrooms, Flowers at 8p Door, Flowers at Starlight Desert
Why is my beta not working ?
I am genuinely sad now. I always try to be an encouraging and helpful member of this server. I even put a smiley face to make my comment to go do something else, instead of getting frustrated with a buggy beta that will not be update for weeks, welcoming. But you chose to see it as malicious and that's really all on you.
Why is my beta still stucking at failed to connect ? Is it me or everyone else is like that
the slight smile doesn't look welcoming, instead it looks passive aggressive
Little blep, as I said, I apologize if it wasn’t aggression or sarcasm. I make mistakes too 
Can someone tell me pls
It's a regular smiley. Like this 🙂 There is no slight in it. Please stop attacking me. I have no hidden agenda and I do not generally go for sarcasm unless it is very obvious and everyone else is in on it.
no one's attacking you
It’s been down on and off today unfortunately
hopefully it’ll be up tomorrow again! XD until then let’s just chill at live haha
Can someone help me please!? What is the 2nd beta quest today ”recharge your light from a light bloom” Thankies in advance 
tbh “🙂” is very sarcastic and no nobody is attacking you. Don’t be over sensitive, everyone can give their opinion. And @rain delta thankssssssssssssss for replying appreciate it. So hard to chat with slow mode.
Am I the only one, who can't get in beta?
Lots of people are experiencing server issues right now
I either think it’s the mushrooms at Forest or that one strange scab in the wall at the underground caves, if it’s still there
I can't get into beta now either😢
it's normal, lots of people are sadly experiencing server issues right now
even the beta servers is starting to get sleepy with no updates
Beta servers went to get some milk, too
H E N E E D S O M E M I L K
Rip I haven’t gotten the TS yet and couldn’t log in since yesterday
oh well
There are some delays and errors time to time but I’m still able to play with iOS
With it being the weekend for TGC and the fact that we're not testing anything specific right now, I wouldn't be surprised if the beta server remains unstable for a while longer -- it's probably not a high priority issue if it's not something that'd directly affect the live game
Or maybe they're doing some cleanups in the beta servers
What strange scab? 🤔
So is it only the mushrooms that recharge you with less than 1 bar left to complete the quest? Or other flower/blooms too? ( For those able to log in)
Flowers in starlight desert didn’t work for me
The room in underground caverns that requires two players to keep the door open, inside the room there has been a scab of strange light stuck in the wall since the area’s debut, it recharges pretty quickly, too. Devs gave insight on it but I don’t remember what it was exactly
Yeah I'd love to know the story with that.
Also, I wonder if light blooms will be a new passive light collecting activity. Idk but would be cool.
Oooohhhh i have never noticed that, i shall have to re-explore, thank you! ❤️
I thought that was removed 
are people still having server problems or whatever with beta because mine is working perfectly fine :0
I don’t remember if it’s still there
Anyhow I think it’s proven to be irrelevant to the recharge from light bloom quest
i haven't checked mine yet, but earlier this morning i did have some issues ;w;
Yeah i was just curious what spot you meant, not for the quest (the mushroom thingies in forest seem to work)
Still haven’t been able to get in beta anyhow 
Ooh it’s not there anymore, but I have a screenshot somewhere
@split mirage replying here this time. Due to server problems, you greeted the spirit but your quests didn’t get activated. You can see that the quests are still “locked” even though you greeted. Usually they should get unlocked and it shows something like “(0/1)” in the end. But server probably delayed it so you still haven’t got them activated fully 
Thank you. Yes this makes perfect sense. I shall cherish the warm moments during server issues

anyone got the hint for the recharge your light for the flower bloom? I tried umbrella stance one ... it doesn't work..I also tried the bloom tree.. doesn't work.. XDD
see those flowers that bloom and glow and recharge your light in the Starlight Desert garden? yes
Did the flowers in starlight desert work for the quest for you? Because when I tried they didn’t work
It didn't for me.
You can use the mushrooms in the Forest Brook (with less than 1 flight energy left). I shared a video earlier: #beta-screenshots-videos message
Starlight flowers and rose didn't work for me for less than 1 or more than 1 bar. Only the mushrooms in forest did
cleared it on beth's link. thank you
New beta season in 2 weeks(?). I don't trust beta motd at this moment 
It's been mentioned multiple times to not trust MOTD Timer on Beta
It says 15 days
MOTD in beta is basically tgc sanctioned rumors 
I always call the MOTD in beta "The Untrustworthy MOTD Countdown"
Anyone got the error communicating sign
Yes i had some server communication issues a few hours ago. A restart fixed it. No issues here at the moment.
Okie thx btw can pls bring me to open maps ?
I'm a bit tied up at the moment. Feel free to ask in #beta-looking-for-group sry 
Ok
does anyone have a guess at when the prince sword suit will be available in live?
afaik, it unlocks after the last prince quest 
upd. so true skybestie 😔
Ancestor spirits never understand anything by themselves, and it is tiresome for sky children to be always and forever explaining things to them
hmmm
how long did it take for the season to end after the last quest?
I'm just trying to budget my candles, I'm dirt poor and can't cr-
owh no...
seasons and other events are usually shortened in beta, so even if someone gave you a number of days, it still wouldn't be the exact one 
Maybe use the scarf and fox IAP countdown for rough guess?
The sword pants will be available after the last quest as per #news. Live topics would be better suitable for such questions because beta season testing is over and nobody knows in beta what and when comes to live 
ohhhh ok, thx...
have a nice day, yall...
Imma go and use my calculator to make a spreadsheet or smth...
(what do you mean calculators are for math classes? they're clearly for managing your in-game currencies)
well, didn't want to get into trouble for 'spoiling'
Bloom light?
Forest mushrooms!
Yes, lots of trigger happy on Skycord… I feel you 
When you guys were saying forest mushrooms, I thought you meant the kind of mushrooms from the ark 🤣🤣🤣
It think the game call it darkness?
They are darkness plants but there are jelly-like mushrooms on forest trees mostly which recharge you
I call them light shrooms
that's not the light blooms, they're the glowy halved-mushroom jellies in forest, on trees and on the walls
I think they are called Fungi in the game according to Sky wiki. They are part of the light creatures. A Fungi is not a plant. A mushroom is part of the large fungus family. Glowing fungus exsist and there are awesome organisms. You can find mesmerizing time-lapses on YT.</tedtalk>
sky wiki is fanmade tho, the game literally calls it Light Blooms
This could be their way of calling fungi, they have a vague naming system. I do believe it’s fungi too
I was referring to it not being darkness. And for the name, it can well be renamed. To me it's fungus.
I think the most confusing part of the name is "Bloom" When thinking of bloom,I'm more likely to think about flowers than mushrooms. Maybe if they were called "light shrooms" it could be more clear?
Also it's confusing to recharge. You need to loose your light and charge a bit after it
I like ‘light shrooms’ more than ‘light blooms’ too XD
well to be fair though plenty of non flower things can bloom, like algae and jellyfish, although i get your point, in that generally speaking bloom is thought of for flowers more. im gonna go back into the shadow realm now
Some fungi bloom. What we see of the fungi in game is the bloom. But yeah light shrooms would be easier.
I know that they do bloom.But the word is more associated with flowers for a majority of people probably
So is the season really going to start after 14 days? 
MOTD in beta is usually wrong or inaccurate. Don’t trust it.

I believe it to be a fungus and its species name is Light Bloom.
Usually 15 or 16 days, or really long, yeah its beta you never trust motd
I thought the light blooms are the flowers at the garden in starlight 🥲
I believe season of the little prince started in beta when it said it was. But something like that happening is very rare.
I wouldn't worry about it too much and just wait for more info in #beta-announcements
If we get an update in 14 days then great, if not then that's fine too
Since the days of summer starts at aug 12th I hopefully think we get minor update fix to the game cause it’s kinda frustrating unable to music + touch sensitivity + can’t see other players playing the keyboard 🎹 notes and the chat gets in the way while playing
Days of Summer will be starting in live though, and yeah we should probably be getting a live update by then to put the summer content into the game. But that event already happened in beta, so that shouldn't really have any bearing on whether or not there will be a beta update at the same time 
Yes at the same time I hope there is another update patch on beta. the keyboard 🎹 needs some good fixes and constellation too tho it’s kinda hard to click as well
hi guys i want to ask about the daily quest today in beta version, i don't know how to do the quest "recharge your light from a light broom". Can someone help me ?
Drain all of your wedges and go near the mushrooms in Forest. See here: #beta-screenshots-videos message
thank you so much
They really testing out newer quests tho
I've been really excited to see all of these. Hopefully some of them make it into the Live circulation! 
Which new quests recently have y'all liked so far, and are hoping to see come to Live? (Assuming some of the bugs get ironed out, that is
)
Not the carry quests, everything else is cool though
Guys real quick — are stone lanterns an object we can place in Sky Beta somehow through some sort of prop or is this dude a hacker
Like the ones in wasteland? Short ones? Like the braziers but in cube
If yes then it's OK. Those were new props
As a random question... Is there a standard on what glitches are or aren't worth reporting? Because a lot of what I like doing is going around and trying to find things like "huh if I wear chibi mask and walk over here so that my skykid's head is inside this rock, my skykid's legs will start flip around and start flailing wildly inside their torso" or "huh, if I try and jump in this random windowsill my head will poke out and the camera will let me see through walls and my skykid will start vibrating" or "huh if I fly up onto the citadel's entrance to the races and walk around to the back of the roof ornaments I can walk around inside the roof because the terrain model isn't fully closed at the back" like... All of these are pretty random chibi antics that aren't exactly gamebreaking and mostly just occur when I go around hopping into random objects and look for blips in the collision, but should I report things like "I can get my skykid stuck inside this rock" or "my skykid starts vibrating violently if I do emotes while standing inside a lantern"? Cause I mean, those technically are bugs, but do the devs care about random minor glitches like that, or should I only bother my time with obvious glitches?
I don’t think you need to report these minor glitches since those have been in the game for so long anyways and it doesn’t really affect your gameplay experience in a bad way. That’s my personal take tho.
I would only report glitches that involve holes in terrain, those might be oversights
is it true the little prince sword outfit will cost 200 regular candles once the final quest had been released?
Yes, and that it will not remain after the season ends, so plan accordingly
oh my gosh ty for letting me know
Hi guys, could someone tell me what are the spirits to relive today? Those icons are so dang tiny I can’t see what they are, and even so I haven’t been playing long enough to know them all that well 😦
Chuckling Scout and Pouty Porter (stomp), I think
Thank you so much 🙏
Ah here we go again another Assembly quest XD
its a star pin that's currently available on thatskyshop for preorder
You can pre-order NFC STAR Pin for that one, I think it was called AI Kizuna, not sure
Answer (cos of slowmode) :
Function of the pin was that 'wuhu' call
Edit: it wasn't really a beta testing discussion, so next time probably ask on QnH 
AFAIK, there was no record of NFC STAR PINS being sold as IAP on Beta, but NFC STAR Pins existed on Beta in a Form of spells, and they're limited-time spells only
Answer: that happened ages ago, it's not available now
The NFC STAR Pin spells I'm referring to was the earlier batches of pins sold by thatskyshop.
In regards to that 'wuhu' call from Kizuna AI China, I don't know anymore from that except that it's only available for pre-order, and it has function of 'wuhu' call.
Again, that Kizuna AI China NFC STAR Pin was not really a beta discussion matter, best to head to QnH and/or #general-sky-discussion 
We did test some STAR pins in beta in the form of spells, but the recent pins have not been tested in beta yet. There has been no mention of them being tested in the near future either
yall im crying, the season update is still far away 😞😞
Stone circle in home didn't charge player energy, intentional or bug?
😩
Circle still charges but only on the side where the valley- wasteland gates are. Its just way slower than it used to be.
It recharges "slow" now as opposed to the previously "instant" recharge. I've noticed the recharge became slow around Summer Event
I see
One time, I've noticed it didn't recharge me, even tho I've already circled around it. Then I restarted the app, then recharge went back
I'm waiting for the day when tgc will put an update saying bug fixes and improvements.
But later they edit the post saying it's the new season content

Beta kids are hungry for updoot
The real beta update was the friends we made along the way
yes, it is... i also notice this as well...
Someone knows which next traveling spirit is coming to appear at home ?
Beta testers don't get early access to the traveling spirits.
!tsbeta
Traveling spirits appear in the Beta version at the same time as Live, so testers don’t know any details in advance
Check #news for announcements and save up your candles!
Thanks for your answers 👍👍
Hi, any idea about when’s the new update coming?
None, It’ll come when it’s ready in the next second
Sorry, I was wonder if the boat selling items should be only 2 columns or should it be more? if only 2, should i report bug?
Um.....hello?
It used to be 3 column before, so it might be not intentional but I’m not sure. File a report just in case
!omgomgwhenbeta
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!
😋
Yea.. even soulmate spells not working:/
seems like that
Is days of summer still need to be beta spoiled even tho its been announced
i think the prices you need not to beta spoiler but the function wise... since it is not stated in news... just take note?
They’re just placable props though
Whenisnextupdat
!omgomgwhenbeta there isn't any info yet... Edit: Wait Ktjn wrote something about it if I understood correctly: #beta-discussion message
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!
its always when is next update but never how is next update 😔

But the summer event coming in live, and we still have many bugsss in beta.
How's this???
I'm android user
I can't go in Many realms and ||eden||
Because game crashing
All I've been doing in this break was go offline from beta, and check quests
Do one or two, then exit
No wonder I haven't found any bugs myself 
I think the summer event is far far back ?
And maybe it doesn't need an app update for it to work ( considering the black screen bug that's going on for a while now )
Hopefully that's the case, but take my words with a grain of salt. Sometimes things just slip, update doesn't include certain things, and so on. 
its been said that the bugs in beta was squashed internally (the black screen ones)
live will most likely get a build ahead of the current beta
Ooh, I see :0c
A build ahead from beta...
Let me try searching the quote. I think I missed it
Okay, I found it. It was with the leak prevention comment
I hope so
I still didn't done last quest for the little prince season, because i can't enter ||eden area||
And I miss green cape because of those bugs

i know i said that earlier as a joke but its really something to think about.... "how" is the next update
we need to start with why there is a lull in beta updates in the first place... seasonal content
the first of seasonal content usually comes in one blow with many new things including cosmetics and areas, sometimes even full fledged features
all of these takes time especially new features built from scratch
when you know how the next update is... the answer to when the next update is automatically comes
and that is a long time 
The next (seasonal) update seems much more enticing because there has been no leaks per the usual 
just means more surprises 👍
Please kindly note beta is for bugs and testing only, not for collection of items. Some bug fixes can even appear to live patch notes firstly. If bugs and unplayabality disturb you I warmly recommend live version of Sky. 
Did anyone test about star scanning with nintendo switch yet?
Switch beta has concluded. If you have questions about live version of Sky, please go to #questions-and-help
Yep I just asked there and they suggest me to ask here lol
AFAIK, STAR is not available on the switch, though the UI is visible.
Until there's a Switch Pro With NFC sensor
nintendo switch lite has it tho
But it's very complicated since you can't just make the Nintendo Switch doesn't have NFC function for skypins and Switch Lite have. Because they are both using same OS and devs didn't bother with coded two version of the game
I guess it's caused by combinations of the device driver and software. Like the iPad doesn't have STAR either.
It's mentioned on #🍄switch-faq🍄 that you cannot use NFC STAR Pins on Switch, yet. Besides, it's not really a beta-related matter
All switches have an nfc sensor? It’s just that the game doesn’t support it
I check and it was only on Switch Pro Controller
I have a switch, all joycon and pro controllers have an nfc sensor built in
#questions-and-help message scanning star pin on switch from kai
It was also mentioned on #🍄switch-faq🍄 that they plan to add those functionality at a later date
SKY on switch is rushed
They scraped the NFC function and add it at later date
my pins finally have their use 
I guess, that's not really a priority.
It's not like majority of Switch Players have NFC STAR Pins.
It's too expensive
You are acting like a good and loyal person 😶
I'm trying my best to help and be kind thank you. 
Sky STAR amiibo when?
STAR don’t work on live for a lot of ppl too... My friend use an iphone 11 pro and can’t use STAR 🙄
Having a bulky phone case can interfere with the scan
It's recommended not to use any phone case if you're scanning an NFC STAR Pin
She tried without phone case 🤷🏻♀️ Still didn’t work. Maybe with last updates. I will say to her to try again.
It could also be a hardware issue. My old phone had a plethora of problems. Especially if it’s a newer model that hasn’t been completely ironed out.
Got blank screen issue in beta app ver. can anyone give me solution?
i guess you gotta wait for a new update
i think a lot of them have this issue, so the best thing you can do right now is submit a bug report and wait for TGCs magic 
Is there usually krill in the office?
The krill in the office is a leftover from days of mischief. Also not really beta related.
there's always toilet krill 
Ahhhh ok! I was playing the beta so I posted it here, apologies
Now I'm curious if any of the TGC staff have names for any of the krill
I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised 
Do they also feed them WL like fish food? 
every krill in the office is one of ktjn's krills 
Wasn’t one named Paul? Or was that the Office NPC 
is there gonna be, or is there already, a beta for the sky you can play on apple's M1 chip devices? bc i just tried it out & i've got... suggestions...
It's not officially supported on anything but mobile devices and the Switch, so there's not a beta for that specifically currently
it's not officially supported, but if you're an iOS tester, you could theoretically download sky beta on an eligible mac with an m1 chip. we don't have any current plans to support sky in this capacity at this time.
mentioning that, it makes me wonder what the next thing sky will be ported to, if it gets ported to anythin else after the switch release 
this.. feels like a long slowmode
what did yall do
maybe tgc should know that it's like, front page of the apple game store for these devices, idk what yall would do with that info, but,, it does say designed for ipad & it is kindaaaa playable if you configure some things client-side, but it seems kinda silly to have the option to play where it isn't supported
true, would b neat tho if they did which is why i said if they do another port
would mean we would have to wait even longer for beta updates
The toilet krill scared the daylights out of me the first time I ran into them
was dropped into the office by a friend and told to explore during Halloween, and I saw the dark plant - melted them and boommmmmm krill

that's not accurate at all, but the concern is appreciated. console certification is fairly consistent across the board in terms of timelines. We'll announce what the next platform will be when the time is ready. We're still working on switch optimizations so next platform is a considerable way off into the future. Samsung fridge will have to wait its turn.
I would laugh so hard if TGC announced the next platform was a refrigerator
Time to go announce that Ktjn said Sky would eventually be released on a fridge /j
inhales Skybot why
I wheezed ngl...
I can clearly see myself at 2AM playing sky on a fridge like: 
Getting a drink at 1 in the morning: “one more candle run wouldn’t hurt”
i call the office npc Anna
i read that as 'inhales skybot' what is wrong with me
OUGLALJHCAJGCLSGL LMAO
Skybot, chill— we understand that its not that deep
Skybot. How deep is deep? Some say that is indeed deep. Where others say it's not that deep. So how do we measure your "deep"?
Is it starvation of content that is deep? Is it our emotions that is deep? If not, how does this "deep" get defined? Or is it just, mathematically deep? If so, how many centimeters is "deep"?
/pffffft sky on fridge pleasssseeee
Now I won't have to go all the way to the fridge to get a snack because I'll be playing sky on the fridge 
Ah yes soon people will able to play sky at the fridge
me omw to go eat 5 slices of havarti and candle run at the same time
Hi hi
OK THIS-
Amlgm is
Just wondering…I’m in developers beta of iOS,do I need to update the Mac to beta in order to download Sky Beta?Becoz I can’t see TestFlight on Mac
ktjn writing a book
Finally✨
you'd have check FAQs on apple's support site to better understand how iOS/iPad games are accessible on a mac device with an m1 chip. like I said in the message you replied to, it's not officially supported which means we do not have any information to assist in the process, if you're able to get sky running, we'd love to hear feedback or see bug reports.
Hello Good night. I have a query, is there a colored trail?
I wonder why I saw a player leaving a rainbow trail while flying or is it a spell?
this isn't really relevant or constructive, please don't do that to people, staff or fellow community member alike.
there were colored trail spells available for days of rainbow, some folks might still have some unused after the event concluded. they are not currently available to obtain.
Aight~ I’m able to download the normal Sky from official AppStore of MacOS,So if I do try it out and play and discovered bugs(?)
Should I be sending out bugs report as “iOS” but then when I need to enter the device model I just type in “M1 Macbook”?
Yes, but were there spells that gave you the rainbow pattern?
yep! tag it as iOS and then in the additional info section declare you are using a mac with an m1 chip.
yep! it was a more rare than single colors, but rainbow was also an option.
Will those spells possibly become permanent items in the future? 
We don't really know yet but Ktjn said a while ago they have plans with it in the future
What kind of plans - we don't know
You can run live sky on an M1 MacBook Pro. It runs very nice on my M1, though because of lack of touch screen, you need a controller. It’s not yet possible to do beta on an M1 because TestFlight isn’t available. Apple did announce at the WWDC conference in June of this year that MacOS 12 (Monterey) will have TestFlight for M1. Major OS upgrades like that typically come out in the October/November time frame, so it’s just a couple of months away.
ah darn, no fridge sky for a while 😔
Quick question: I doubt my Mac is an M1, but how do I check if it is?
you can click on the apple icon on the top left of your mac, about this mac, then you'll see your processor
If you go to the 🍎->”About this Mac”, it will say Chip “Apple M1”
Thank you! Don't know if it'd do much good since I have beta access through android and not iOS, but it might be good for future reference. 
Beta access on iOS is done through AppleID, which can be common to MacOS. Not sure how you would transfer Android access to MacOS TestFlight.
Yep — I'd have to wait for another invite wave. 
Is there any way i can help if i see others pushing afk players into polluted geyser? its second time this week but i couldnt stop it....feels bad seeing someone kept bursting and losing their WLs after being moved into the geyser
Not much you can do, they shouldn't have AFK'ed while they're in the Dark Water, not unless they intend to lose their WL's
Hi
I don’t think they meant that it’s the players themselves afking while they are in the water but rather other players pushing them to the water because they don’t like that the others are afk
I never saw that happen but maybe putting a torch near them would help
the same way they can get in, the same way they can get out with the table trick?
Wait, this is a thing?
How are players able to push AFK players into the polluted water?
In the live, I woke up once with 20 less WL than I had when I was sitting down to nap (was exhausted that day), not knowing why/how I lost any.
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The props you place near them will be gone once you leave that area. So there’s not a permanent help for it. It’s sad to see how some players treat others so badly. You may not like something but it never gives right to treat badly others. It’s like going for “an eye for an eye” and that kind of behavior shouldn’t belong to sky in my opinion.
Table trick was patched long time ago, so that must be some hackers
...Well, the... Uh, the beta quests from a few days ago somehow made it into live, this will be interesting 
How can you even push an afk player?
I used a torch to move my friend a little, it works
You use a prop to move them, i tried it on assembly quest giver and they fell off the tree house 
I can understand with friends and/or NPC, but how can you push a random shade player?
...Idk if the quests in live is a bug or intended...
Seeing as the name of the quest is a file name, I'd say they weren't ready for seasonal spirit quests yet. Beta does have proper names now though
But it's a nice change from repetitive Daily Quests, for my opinion.
I love how our quests in Beta make more sense today than the quests in Live. 
the thing is, new players who didn't finished all 7 realms can't do seasonal spirit task
I thought they'd still glow like TS?
Yeah. I've had concerns about that too, but so far the quests have stayed in beta and I assumed that they might have been having us do the quests to keep seasonal spirits in our testing rotations, because sometimes they do that. I don't think these quests were supposed to make it into live yet.
No. They're completely invisible to anyone who hasn't finished Eden yet, and people who haven't finished Eden yet can't relive the spirits on their own.
i am very sure i said polluted geyser
I appreciate if you read before you trying to reply.
And yes pushing players is a thing. There r ways but im not discussing it here since the ppl who use it usually use it for bad intentions.
Isn't the water at Polluted Geyser a Dark Water?
Yes but they werent in the geyser. They were afk on the ground. No one afk IN the geyser. You were saying they shouldnt afk in the dark water, but that's not what happened now.
crab call quest in live 
// i don’t want to get too much into the argument,, srry,, it’s just that you just said that they were pushed into the geyser while afk- therefore ending up in the geyser and loosing wl while still being afk in the dark water of the polluted geyser.. i think that’s what they meant
but the people that are AFK are pushed by others, therefore they do not know that they were pushed into the water. So they can’t “not AFK in the water”
There's indeed specific prop that can push shade players atm.
Edit : forgot to disable ping. Mb 
I see. Thanks for that info Puffers 
That's the thing I didn't took into account for since that's the first I've heard of it. Sorry if that caused misunderstanding.
I'm still curious what are the props that can push shades. 
Anywho, it's not really a beta-related matter so I'll let my imagination run wild.
Yeah, it's been an issue where people use that prop to push people in places such as the treehouse and geyser, where they pushed them under the rain or into the geyser.
I see. Thanks for that info Puffers
That's the thing I didn't took into account for since that's the first I've heard of it. Sorry if that caused misunderstanding.I'm still curious what are the props that can push shades.
Anywho, it's not really a beta-related matter so I'll let my imagination run wild.
@faint comet
The fastest ways are using these props actually
Table
Christmas Table
Torch
Bonfire
I think it will get faster if the Props are much bigger, Torch are pretty slow since it is thin
The Tea Table also works, but not that much
So far only Tables used for "Sweeping" the Geyser Areas
Yes, thanks for much for clarifying for me coz i don know how to explain it anymore 
Has there been any dev notes or etc. pertaining to the problems with intstruments as far as chat boxes, sudden instrument closing and lack of notes registering? Mainly for those of us using 4+ fingers? I've been gone a while and only recently learned it's an ongoing problem not just for myself.
Is the issue still happening in beta or it is live?
i think that it was fixed in beta but the update didn’t come to live yet, live is still broken
As Ktjn suggested if something is changed in the game which was not announced, dont wait for explanation, rather it's better to report as a bug 
is anyone else still crashing in forest?
Oh dear to #general-sky-discussion
TGC better ship Version 0.14.5 soon before things get worst
How to have beta sky? I want to play it
Read #beta-faq from top to bottom
I don't think it will be pushed any time soon. Luckily it's not a gamebreaking issue and players can laugh about it.
I heard from other players that becoz of Nintendo ,the update period becomes 11 weeks or so?🤔
there is no set time for updates to happen
we only know that updates will be released in a longer interval
Mhh still wondering what will happen when the new season arrive like a lot of crash, bugs, server issues👀👌
Spirits missing, cosmetics missing, unable to access the new area (if any), emotes missing 👀 👌
The update maybe 🤔 on aug 12th since it’s the start of days of summer tho 
Live Patch Update had nothing to do with Beta Update
Whenever it is it’s gonna be packed
Speaking of new season though, I really wonder if it’s gonna bring new species of birds just like Sanctuary 
Guys, is piggyback fixed on beta? 😢
I can’t say for certain, but it doesn’t disconnect your friends as you fly for now
I hope that they bring back the ones from sanctuary tbh
Having a lot of variaty is cool and all but having too many can be just a mess, so I'm hoping that they're gonna use again ones that we don't see a lot of (like the super small mantas near the bells)
An update where they take those species and sprinkle them all over the realms of sky would be cool too
Read #known-issues and #beta-announcements for fixes and improvements & details - the answer is yes and not fully 
Ok, ty 
I’m really hoping for a parrots 
I’m hope for something similar to the bird the Rhythm troupe travels with
I was going to say "how about the turtle from light awaits ?"
Then I realized
This might be a bit of a pipe dream but imagine if the next season had an area similar to the aviary 
speaking of pipes i wanna meet the guy who thought of the idea to turn the wasteland pipes into a prop
We’ll just have to wait and see which TS brings it for DoS 
I might need to read Nintendo Developer policy for this
TGC’s letter to Chinese players, talks about the change to 6-7 week update periods from monthly updates. Translate the page to English to read for yourself. Also talks about iaps and how it conveys companionship and love and that’s why it cost so much 
Anyone know what's the "meet the spirit in GW" meant for?
Go to any gravestone at the social area
No, Ktjn said. They don't want to release the beta update because they are still internally test for Mali crash issue and want to prevent the data miners to spoil the content that is not on beta .
And also the policy of console check blah blah blah Nintendo
Fact, China Server android and ios user are separate because netease doesn't have that server capacity.
They talked about combining servers (ios and android) in the article if u wanna read about it
Well, Here's the translated version of the article using google translate
https://1drv.ms/w/s!AiIsvPBa1yKRgQjmDtfWoBTs1rFX?e=HjkgJQ
Me confused on why crab call is one of the quests in live
I thought we were still testing these kind of quests?
It's probably a bug considering the text is not displaying correctly either
They have to be added to Live somehow. Who knows, maybe they're testing the waters and may make informed decisions based on feedback they've received from it.
11 months!? Nintendo why!
I wasn't expecting that, I know someone who also worked on developing a game... maybe he knows what about Nintendo Development things... because This is kinda outrageous
Kinda hoping it was a bug since I wasn't expecting this at all
Is the apple beta a TestFlight? And can I still play with my friends that aren’t in beta?
TestFlight Version is separate from the App Store Live. Your friends must have the Beta version to able to test together
And yes, the iOS beta version is TestFlight Version
Beta and Live versions of Sky are completely separate apps. Progress/purchases in one have no effect on progress/purchases in another.
Beta and live are separate, so you won't be able to play in the beta app with people who aren't beta testers, but having beta will not affect your ability to play with friends in the live version
Where do I get the TestFlight invite?
You have to wait for TGC to post an invite link in the #beta-invites channel. It could be a while until the next one though, because they just did one recently. It's only on an as-needed basis. You can get the ping roles from the #beta-faq channel to be alerted when there are invites again (and read the rest of that channel for more beta info)
Well, the test invite will go of anytime when the beta active player is lower to the designated point
Side question:
So do all recharge quests need less than. 1 bar to register?
Recharge from light bloom, recharge you from another player, and you recharge another player means the other player needs less than 1 bar?
Yes, I'm pretty sure all of the recharge quests need you or the other player to be at 0 flaps/wedges for it to count
What do you mean by that?
I triggered the completion by running past one of the spirit stones in the social area.
I'm surprised I'm still the only one who thinks the mochi bunny looks like an angry cartoon
it isn’t 11 weeks, if you read the link sent they say 6-7 mondays which i believe means 6-7 weeks rather than their usual once a month updates
reminder that information from NetEase is directed at the China server's audience, context can be lost in auto-translation and information provided may not be applicable to the Global servers.
Chinese servers have almost catched up to global's releases, and most things answered seems pretty relevent in the discussion since its directly from TGC
It’d be nice if we could get direct information like that as well
Uh oh, looks like that black screen bug from here made it into live, from what that patch notes say
Oh no. I hope it doesn't show up to as many people as it did in beta. That's a pretty big game breaking bug 
Ahhh does anyone have the same prob my update patch is not showing up????
Hey all 
Just wondering on the remaining tier 2 capes. Is there any specific reason they're holding off on them or, are they simply not ready?
they're on a staggered release schedule, they'll be released when we are ready to do so.
Oh man, crashes i experienced on my phone during beta testing has made it to live, rip 
please submit live bug reports #report-a-live-bug for any issues encountered in the new patch 
Seeing that the crashes went to live, is there a plan to fix them before the last quest?
My game crashes when I enter the eden gate and I'm scared that it won't make me do the last quest on live just like beta
I don't have any further information at this time.
that said, please move discussion for the Live version to non-beta channels.
feedback, etc is collected and delivered differently for beta and live.
Seeing the patch notes the devs made an immense amount of work and will keep to do so in beta thanks to our continuous bug reports. I'm sure they will figure out something and make the quests playable.
Live actually seems to be a few build numbers ahead of beta right now, are they effectively the same right now (i.e. should we just submit bug reports for live rather than beta right now)?
Good question! 
the beta build is several iterations out of date, i'd save your bug reporting for Live until a new beta build is released or we ask for input on a specific issue. if you're super ambitious you can compare between the two, buti'd enjoy the quiet on beta for a but longer, the new update will have tons to check out and give feedback on.
Will do. Time to go live bug hunting.
Hello guys anyone have an idea about the little prince jaket? And how it looks? Please ping me if you have a picture for it or a video if it's available in beta
Have you seen my fox?
We aren't allowed to do cosmetic requests in beta per the pins, you can search through #beta-screenshots-videos for a video or picture, though.
Keep in mind anything in Beta is subject to change, as beta is also a place for testing and not previews or early-access as well 
Thanks
hi everyone, I just wanted to ask about the ball spells from the summer events, how exactly are they controlled? (I'm a beta player but I forgot to buy some for testing)
Just run into them! You can kick em around
When your sky kid touches the ball it moves approximately to the direction it would irl. ‘Controlling’ is a strong word tho
alright, thank you 
the balls are very chaotic and a challenge to control 
I didn't know how else to put it 
WAIT THE NEW SEASON WILL START IN 12 DAYS?
Looks like the android crashing build made it to live unfortunately
As the #beta-faq states, don't trust the MOTD or in game timers
To me they work similarly to the polluted light/wax balls at the geyser in sanctuary if you don’t try to burn them. They are fun to kick around.
oh ok
they did say they may have missed some devices experiencing the crashes, we don't exactly know the extent of the effectiveness of the fix.......
that said, all we can do is report the devices experiencing the issues, and perhaps hope for an emergency patch?
Hopefully, beta has been crashy for a while, so I don't think it's an easy fix unfortunately
They have done at least 1 emergency patch before, so its possible. Anyone remember the rainbow disco bug on Android last year? We got a really quick fix for that. It did sound like they have a fix coming in for the black screen soon, but we'll just have to wait on it. Like mael said, it sounds like it's a complicated bug to fix 
I'm just going from how long, and many times it is reported in beta, I don't recall seeing the disco bug in beta, so can't really compare.
I hope it doesn't cause the support and developers too much problem
getting the bugged update on live is also a way to get all the names of the devices affected when beta didn't catch all the devices, but hey that's a theory don't take my word for it
We never got it in beta because it was related to the days of healing flower, which we never tested. We did however, test the emergency patch they released an hour after that update released in live.
But that was from a small patch. I have no idea how it would work with a more major update. All we can do is wait
Sending beans to the TGCs

Just realized that since the crashes from beta transfered, and I do crash as soon as I enter vault, there will be no quests for me from now on 🙃
well rip,
crashes I encountered is now on live,
time to save for a new phone I guess
Or keep the phone and switch to Switch? 
You can counteract it by controlling the camera, but unfortunately when the camera control is taken from you, like meditation quests, or some spirit memories, it becomes way harder
I know the MotD often go wrong but
12 days to
next season
i hope its less then that
12 is not that far off, it can get extended
Does anyone know if you can lose more WL than usual in Eden (here). I need to check
And was it intentional ?
its been tested recently, yes
When is the next beta invite expected?
!omgomgwhenbeta
They’re are on a on-demand basis, there’s no way to know when is the next wave
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!
Hey all, help me out here:
To live sky guitar owners--doesn't it sound really off? Just need someone to verify I'm not going crazy
If anyone can manage a sound comparison between beta/live build..I'd like to know for sure before I make any bug reports
Maybe ask on Live channels? 
I tried but, it keeps getting buried 
#sky-music perhaps? Or try other "less hype" channels, not gen chat, maybe #seasons-events-chat since it still involves a seasonal item
Usually beta updates are earlier than live. Since live got a new patch update the chance to compare the pre-update state is gone. It's better to #live-feedback with the current info you have
I mightve misunderstood but I thought Ktjn mentioned beta is on an older build than live*** atm
Maybe that's the case with instruments. Try to find someone in #beta-looking-for-group who has guitar
Will do thanks 
I have a guitar and I can try testing the sound. I don't have a guitar in beta though to do a comparison
It does sound off,I can't explain the sound but it's kind off like an echo?
I can try comparing my older videos of me playing the guitar to make a comparison
I feel like the guitar sounds were re recorded and now it has this slight echo in the sound
y’all do i have to go through eden to access all the beta features or do i need to find all spirits or what
What features are you wanting to unlock?
iap shop, summer objects etc (i think there’s supposed to be things in the sand at home too ?)
the event is over in beta, so you're not missing anything at this time, however completing eden does unlock some existing content
gotcha, thank u !
i forgot events always end super fast in beta
This is the time for us beta players to take a well needed break from breaking beta and catch up on live stuff.
I do enjoy twirling via pressing ZL and letting joycon drift make my twirl and flip decisions for me, though. 
Wow, the joycon drift is useful for something after all 
So
Anyway
I just got report that it seem 1 of Bugs from Beta old Patch entered Live now
The Black Screen thing when Summer Event arrive before
more than one of the bugs :)
Yeah i just got reported again
Crash at Trial entrance
Crash at Forest Map 2
Crash at Vault Entrance
Crash at Valley Ring
Freeze at Eden entrace
Black Screen since start of Game
Frozen Krill
Crash at Wasteland Graveyard
Seem that we got lots of bugs going on now
I'm currently watching over my other Sky group channel to check on their bugs report before reporting
Also, i don't think it is Mali GPU problem only, since some of them use other GPU too, including Snapdragon
yeah its.. unplayable for some people
snapdragon is a SoC
you might be refering to adreno gpus
Huh, so beta crashes affecting my device got carried over to live... It's basically unplayable in most areas. Edit: that's after downloading the latest build. Also, I'll send a report at live (sorry i know this is for beta stuff only)
My fear of the black screen issue comes to live is real 
Yes! It sounds..... Out of tune
Looks like I'll end up taking a break from live too with all the crashes
edit: sorry i might have pinged! My bad!
Now i cant play sky both live and Beta version :'
So i test them out with two Devices
It seem that All Bugs from Beta really make it to Live
My Poco M3 device didn't get affected at all
But...
My Samsung S6 Lite get affected by all Bugs i have before in Beta at that Patch times. All of them now occured in Live. All Bugs also already got reported before in Beta version. It seem that the Developer still not fix it at All.
I practically can't play in my Samsung Device at all now, because every Realm are Lava Floor
I’m guessing the next Season will be “The Season of Flight”, based on the name of the pre-order pendant
It could also be different, the little Prince pendant is called “Pendant of The Tamed Fox”
Ya know I never noticed that. There is a def abstract bird profile to the pendant…
Was the summer hat clipping fixed for LP headdresses?
You can wait and check once it's out on Live on 12th of August, 2021 
One of a person's outfits gave mideval feeling
But POCO runs on android too? How come only samsung is having trouble?
Why that haven't released tier 2 black in this update in live? I've been waiting for 7 months
Probably because phones that's support android are built far different from one another, unlike IOS
Being someone outside looking in with limited knowledge of their code, but knowledge on device drivers, I would assume they're using a standard Vulkan API call that some manufacturers implemented poorly to their OS compared to what is given in AOSP. That's the sad nature of an Open Source platform. The Manufacturer can build it how they want since they have access to the source code. A good example of this is how vastly different Samsung's One UI is compared to AOSP (default Android experience).
!omgomgwhen it was previously stated on 0.12.0 Live Patch Notes that Tier 2 Heart Capes will be on 'staggered release'. They will release when it's ready to be released. In this case, keep your eyes peeled on future patch update on #news
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
I'm still gonna sit here wait for the next update 
That i dunno, but the current report about Bugs Crash/Freeze/Black Screen are these Device have problems
Samsung
Oppo
Vivo
Redmi
Xiaomi
people still having black screen issues in beta?
LG G6 got black screen issue too
Amm guys isn't true that the black screen bug is in live right now?
check the bug report in live? dun think asking in beta chan works thou
Read #news blog post, everything is there
Anyone been able to do the 4th quest? Jellyfishes at sanctuary dont trigger it
try spending all your energy, then refilling with the jellys
to me didn't work in the first time either
Yes, that’s what I’m trying XD which jelly’s did you use?
hidden forest underground, it was the only place I remember that there were jellys 
maybe sanctuary ones are bugged, who knows, couldn't try there since quests are one try 
Ok, I’ll they those then, yes the sanctuary ones do not want to comply XD (if it works in forest I will report them XD)
Ok the ones in hidden forest worked for me, off to bug report XD
Maybe you can only clear the daily (Recharge your light from a jellyfish) with jellyfish in the Star Collector area?
may I know if these bug crash on Android after newest live update already get reported in beta? (And if so, why they still make it public on live) :(
People have been reporting it on beta for a good while, and while it is really sad that it did make it to live, it's probably more complex of a bug and tgc had different issues/deadlines to resolve. We can't know for sure and can only keep reporting it
okay so guys, if someone like me has the crashing bug as soon as you enter vault, and you want to reach the starlight desert: you can teleport to a friend there and it won't crash.
i noticed that the crashing only happens when you first enter vault from the gate.
I did not try if you can teleport to a friend who's in the first floor and whether if it crashes or not though
like, is it a crash that has to do with all of vault or just the first level?
Vault is a GPU demanding area because as you enter it loads all first 3 levels at once.
so does the same thing happen when you teleport to the first or any other floor?
the first 3 floors are all in the same loading zone, so i'm guessing it's very likely; next 3 floors are also all part of one single zone, but i'm not sure if it's as bad as the first area
The summit and its 3 levels together seem to have less elements by eye, but from coding side who knows
Havent tried there but the ones in hidden forest seem to work
Starlight Desert jellyfishes work
beta updates when!?😭
Ktjn said that it'll still be a while for the update.
so try to distract yourself with Live hehe
bro literally just found out last quest for the little prince requires going to eden
but why 🙃
I had a gut feeling when initially testing the season that the final quest is in Eden, since in the story the Prince needs to die to return to his home planet. Same premise here
More fun? 😄
Until then, pls do not tell Gen Chat about the last quest or there will be chaos going on when I enter there 
The little prince outfit is supposed to be gone after the season finishes , but I saw it today on beta, is that normal? Will the outfit stay even in live version?
You will still be able to use it if that is what you are referring to. Anything you earn during the season can still be used after it ends.
I think they meant they saw Little Prince Sword Suit on Rose Guide Friendship Tree.
In response to your inquiry, Rekugou, I think the Rose Guide is not updated on Beta, yet. I'm not sure. To your second question, once season concludes, Little Prince Sword Suit will not be available anymore as per 0.14.0 & 0.14.5 Live Patch Notes
they do stay if you purchased it. and ye beta haven’t receive any update yet, so LP stuff haven’t completely remove (and yes the Rose Guides will gone too)
Thanks ! 
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bro I'm really upset w the crashes on the live version
they did know that the game was crashing on the beta and then updated the live, what's the meaning of this? isn't the entire gaming experience more important than an event
You would definitely expect so, does anyone know if these crashes are only impacting people on older android models or newer ones as well?
My phone isn't that old and my bugs aren't as bad but I'm experiencing crashes, frame drops, lag and missing textures to some degree too.
Just not as much and as severely as older devices
I suggest every android user to play with the lowest graphics settings to experience less problems
Hello everyone,
I have a question about bug reports: if I reported one thing last build, and it is still there, I should re-report, right? Should I link to my previous report or no? And should I send a link to my live bug report if I find the same issue in both?
Asking here since I usually report beta bugs...
Thank you!
Jenna
they had a potential fix which didn't work
at this point its a worse experience for some while better for others
yes, to everything you should always report an issue if it's still there after a update
I'm just confused as to why they gave the live game the same version (if not 1 ahead) as the beta game
Beta update isn’t ready yet. And DoS is right around the corner.
Player experience and game usability shouldn’t have been compromised for the event though, that is what’s causing confusion, if anything the days of summer event should have been pushed back a little until things were ironed out a little more
beta is an older build compared with current live
also check out ktjn's messages in #general-sky-discussion , should shed some light on the issues
I think they needed more bug reports to test a possible fix, maybe they have a fix ready 
I hope so. It makes me sad to see a lot of people, including some of my friends, being unable to play the game. It's absolutely horrible... 
Sorry but this is a very narrow aspect of view. Events are not bound to ui or graphics engine update. In TGC's Chinese letter to users (pasted in this channel yesterday) they stated UI and graphics were very outdated from development side and this is why its update was necessary.
Whether it's the same time as days of summer event update is only because Nintendo allows longer update cycles.
And there could be even more factors to consider we are not aware of. Maybe I'm optimistic maybe we never know the full truth but it feels better to think about devs this way for a game we play every day with.
Hello !
I want to ask regarding app builds
On Beta IOS, you can revert to an older build throught testflight, right ?
Does that also apply for the Live build ?
You can revert on testflight but it will only show you the 'new update is available' screen. You cant really play on those builds. I don't think you can do that with the live version and they force update after a few days anyways
No need to apologise i just have a different perspective, I wouldn’t call it narrow. If existing bugs in beta have been causing grief to players for the last month and have been reported on wouldn’t it make sense to hold back an update in live to iron out those bugs first? Instead of letting them pass through?
Hey guys, I saw this information circling around about a list of the next travelling spirits that will come with the Days of summer props, from what I understand, the items won’t belong to a certain spirit, right? Like if that spirit comes back it will hold a different item? Also I’m guessing the spirit and the order of the spirits is completely random. Can someone clear me up in this?
Because it's a live function, this question is better suited for #questions-and-help
So I was thinking, I know it can be dangerous to assume things on beta, but since Ktjn stated that they were holding back possible fixes to avoid leaking content, wouldn't you assume that the next update or patch would occur at least 39 days from now when the LP season ends in live when they'll need to be rolling out that new seasonal content for testing
i did kind of expect the next season to be tested out around now tbh
but i understand that the devs need more time for it
i'm just worried for the amount of bugs and glitches that might leak into live again 
What does when iOS slots free up the same amount opens up for android players in #beta-faq ? Does it remove a number of inactive android players or something or does the number of android players just keep increasing?
I don’t understand the first part of your question.
Second, Android players never get removed for inactivity since it’s not as strict as Testflight with slots, but there’s a few who might leave manually opening up a slot for someone else to join. That doesn’t apply for Testflight
Just realize y’all that it’s been a year since the last time the lantern thing was available for testing in beta
The days of summer lights lantern was available awhile ago in beta, but the testing period for summer lights was extremely brief.
When I choose to close the friend tree, I always hit Gifts. So annoying!!!!!
They meant from when we tested it in 2020, I tested it that year
You can let TGC know on #beta-feedback
Okay thank u
hello?
Hi! If you want to just chat, please use #general-sky-discussion 
ok
Hi, I have a problem, why can't I get my Beta account back?
If you had it previously linked to Gmail, Game Center, etc you should have no problem logging back in. But it's case to case basis.
What exactly happened?
When is the translation feature coming live?
!omgomgwhen no one knows 
Tho, you can try researching for keyboard app/s with translation functionality
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
That is the problem, yes it had it linked but now it tells me that it is linked to another account
Did u click sign in method before clicking ▶️ button?
Thanks I have that on my keyboard, I just wondered about the one built in to Sky because it's damn good imo
And Switch players have no option to use a 3rd party keyboard for translation...
That option did not appear
Hello, I am new to this group, I speak Spanish and I hope to get along with all of you
Will I get my account back?
Can you check #beta-screenshots-videos a bit?
Hmm, apparently “jellyfish” means something different to TGC than it does for me.
these quests are still being tested afaik so it's normal sometimes it won't work as it's supposed to be
Why can't we get a fix only for the crashing without the new season's content? Or from a technical pov they are inseparable??
Cause the game is very unplayable in both beta and live, it's really sad, I can only run Prairie and that's it
!support may able to answer such questions, it's better to keep discussion beta testing related here 
Contact Player Support in-game: Tap the cog menu (top-right corner) ⚙️ → Tap "Support" → Tap "Contacting Us"
If you’re unable to access your game, you can contact Player Support by using this link: http://bit.ly/skygamecs
The wait time for a Support ticket may be several days, depending on the Support team's backlog. Your patience is appreciated! 
Thank you but I do think this is related to beta discussion since the crashes are also happening in beta?
Beta is clearly for testing and crashes are normal. Often unplayable.
How long have the crashes been happening for (in beta)? Is it since the latest update
Beta is generally not this unplayable at least not with sky
Yes, but isn't beta for preventing such bugs to transfer to live?
Actually they've been happening since the update where they released the 2 last little prince quests
In beta there were more there was weeks long period last time when nobody could join and play with anyone afaik
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Can I ask beta questions here? 
the beta build we're on rn and the new live update aren't the same iirc
there's some bugs in live we didn't experience here and vice versa
If there ever is a beta progress wipe, does it also clear your friend constellation? 
no, in the only progress wipe that has happened the friend list was conserved and iirc that would be case again if a progress wipe were to occur
Beta is for testing which can lead for fixing bugs but beta never meant to make a game bugproof. It's clear for a long time that the devs workflow for this game is different than many would imagine.
Ktjn's pinned message in #general-sky-discussion tells that crash/black issues are still below the treshold of not releasing this, therefore sticking with the current graphics.
We don't know if the more recent live build had already some potential fixes for the affected devices and already a little less are affected.
if i uninstall beta without opting out will i be able to reinstall it again?
Yes, as long as your progress is backed up
- daily quest - meet a spirit in vault is we enter and complete or a bug .. little confused, 2. also like live, game crash for friends who are trying to enter vault.😟
they are inseparable
- bug 2. also bug, see #known-issues
I know, we came a full circle from when it was last tested in beta, I feel old now
Did they change the size of the yellow umbrella? Was it larger at first release, then smaller, then back to original size again?
yellow umbrella?
where that?
Uh.. it's the pack for Days of Summer :3
Update!
finally
the android exclusive
ping 
could you perhaps uber me to the ||office||
Ooo, funky stuff here
Woah 😳 i like these surprises
pain, i got so excited
UPDATE...WAIT NO IM AN ANDRIOR NOOP
WHY LIFE WHYYY
wait nvm
Emergency Android updoot! 
it is for android lmao
welp no actual update back to the closet
Goodbye, IOS users 
Upd00t
I got update ping so quickly... Odd. Those with the issues, please let us know if the hotfix fixes the issues. 
android exclusive 
There's your long awaited beta update you guys... I hope they're fixed now so my friends can play 
localization ME

I thought it's the new season update 
Quick! Test it so they can push it to live! 
gotta test this update.. I have black screens for both beta and live
ALEXA PLZZZ!! FREE ME TO BLACKSPACE
oh mannnnnnnn no actual update...
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New update!-
I can't update-
Yay a hotfix!
oh thank goodness it isnt just my playstore being weird 😂
patience
i got so excited but, oh well
Isn't that an actual update that thousands of our fellow players can play with us?

This is very important though. Especially since the bug is currently in live and makes the game basically unplayable. The faster it is tested the faster it can be pushed to live so people don’t miss out on any seasonal content or events
Yk its for android but we needa wait for an hour
very normal
@peak plume i meant other things 
Pray that this HitFix will work 
And about that waiting time, it will always apply to android because google always decides to be slow about this ;;
Not an actual update for the upcoming season 
This is important for players like myself if this solves the black screen issue! I'll be able to play for the first time in beta!
I hope the glitching textures gets fixed soon too
i think im just gonna check in the morning, i was on my way to bed when i got the ping
fingers crossed i can make it through the hidden forest at least so i can actually exchange light with friends fhgfalafsgf
iOS
😫
I need this to get fixed its too much annoying

I remember when we got bald on the 5th prince quest
This time, I think the ones who doesn't have the black screen bug better test this new hotfix because they might have them now
And it's super super laggy in random places
@limpid crown yes, I'm waiting to see if this update will affect my device since I don't have the bug
Hope it doesn't destroy my beta, but as testers we need to test, in hopes that the problem doesn't come to live 
I didn't have it...
oh nonono
Don't forget to test build number difference compatibility, iOS players. That's also critical for these updates. Making sure you don't server split more often than normal with your Android friends. 
Wait do several iOS players not have it or did I get removed 
this update is android only. if sky beta is still in your testflight app and just doesn't have an update then you aren't removed from beta
Reminder for everyone with android phones (who'll be testing the update): it might be 1-2 hours before the Google Playstore recognizes the update. Sagomay announced the update's release about 10 minutes ago, so if you can't download it yet, check back in an hour. 
And so we need to wait an hour 💀
Reminder too for Android users: If y'all don't have the black screen bug from the previous build, It'd be better to test for your phone still in this latest build because this build might fix other's phone, but may affect your phone. 
Im still dont understand why they didnt fix these kind of bug when it's still in beta
after 3 update and it still hasn't been fixed
It’s not that easy to just fix a bug. Especially since it’s being caused by hardware, not software.
If the new season comes out in beta right after the next seasonal quest takes place next week, I'm gonna be very shocked since we're still almost halfway through the current season in live 💀
I heard that there might be new season leaks if they tried to patch these as of now
its been a month i think and i still cant download beta ㅠㅠ how much longer do i have to wait c r i e
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To be fair, the pre-orders for the next season are scheduled the very next day after this season ends. I wouldn't be surprised honestly
I know but they can literally creat a hotfix in almost a day
and that black screen has been on beta after 3 updates
I got all excited about the update but it was just a bug fix 😔
It's important though

But it's a very important hotfix. Let's make sure that our live friends can finish the season without this bug 
Even tho it's just a bug fix, it's still important to fix this because it has the "worst" bug I've even encountered in sky 
I don't have the blackscreen bug but my friends have it so it's am 
So question, with this new patch, are us androids still gonna be able to play with iOS users then? Cuz ik we can't play with people who are in different versions of sky.
updoot
i think most people can be equally excited for a hotfix or a new season 
Pings: greetings we have an update ready!
me: runs to see what's that about
black screen bug fixes
me who hasn't encountered this bug until now: 
when the update isnt even there
I'm crossing my fingers that this Hotfix won't cause black screen for other devices 
*Yet
Android updates being slow as usual www
Well when switch beta was out they were playing on an older version and we could play with them, so this should be the same I'd assume, since this is just a hotfix
Henlo Kei!
Hi Polly
Still waiting for crash hotfix
now i cant even do the quest if it's in forest, valley, vault and wasteland
Android Users! Why do y’all always have some sort of technical issue?
Wish we could say, all phones are built different, some with new some with old GPU malware, unlike ios most of your devices are built the same so it's earlier to target and fix things
Because Android is one mess of a platform with too many devices to optimize for all of them.
Too many different devices makes it a coding nightmare.
Just from hearing how varied android devices works, having this game ported to android itself sounds like a miracle 
Androids really do need the apple touch when it comes to the inner workings. Minus the battery nightmare
Android is open source OS , that's what makes it hard to keep consistent because every company customizes android in their own way. What this means is even you can download android OS for free and make a device from scratch, if you have the resources
It unfortunately doesn't work like that. Android itself is just the operating system. But since it's more open sourced than ios is (ios isn't open source at all so...) multiple companies can use Android in their devices. But each device also has different hardware, which is why they're all different
And each device has different hardware, even within a single brand! It's kinda like with PCs.
Yeah but PCs seem to manage to get there baggage together
hiiiii
The funny thing is even between same hardware from different manufacturers can vary differently. For example, the Moto Z2 Force is very similar on a hardware level as the Pixel 2 XL (tamien) even down to the same vibration motors, screen, motherboard and emmc. They are vastly different under the hood software and firmware wise to act completely different with games like Sky.
Well tbf pc is either ure using Windows or Apple, rarely people are using open OS like Linux. 😂
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imagine google sleeping on an emergency
Yeah, it's happened before. We had an emergency hotfix for a severe graphics bug last year that only happened in live, and it took a bit for Google to get with the program 
ah, finally an updoot 
that graphics bug haunts my dreams and it didnt even happen to me
No one got the update yet?
Are you referring to the disco android bug ? 
This whole thing reminds me of that instagram story incident where if ios plays it will crash but android phones doesn't. (Although ofc the issue isn't even in the same category) 
Perhaps 
I was so excited for the update but it’s only for android 
Patiently waiting for the update 
Oh the log bug with the orange outfit. Ios didnt crash only screen froze
it was more than enough tho
Krilltjn when there's a hotpatch that they working for day's #beta-screenshots-videos message
and it was mostly people who wanted to ruin someone else's day causing it 
Any update on beta? About the new season?
Android users right now:

I mean, not yet. The update isn't up on Google play yet. We're more like 
How to be a testers for sky beta ?
guess android-only updates dont mean yall are free from the 1 hour cooldown 
U have to wait for an invite wave, we never know when a wave will happen so u need to look forward to the channel #beta-signup-info
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Good things comes to those who wait
No, this is a hotfix update exclusive to Android, read #beta-announcements
Thank you, I need help on how to get this raincoat
waits for a bugless beta and live

OK thank you but the #beta-invites is gone left the #beta-faq
Bugless? Never. 
Everyone wants a android exclusive thing, there's a android exclusive update
bugless beta will come when the king shows up and starts tap dancing at the eden diamond
You can ask about it in #questions-and-help
there are lots of players there who would love to help you get it
Bugless beta? No need for us then we could just retire, no fun
Yes u need to read #beta-faq first
No update on my end (as an android user.)
Guess I'll just.. wait until tomorrow ig
Thank you,
Okok thank you very much 🙏🙏
I would love to witness that actually—
The "king" is just too interesting
it's and the game's is
too interesting
This update isn't really "exclusive" anyways, it's just a potential hotfix for the black screen issue which maybe some of us may not even feel a difference if you are not affected by it. 😌
Imagine, you're going to Eden, you're going to make a big sacrifice
And from afar, you see the Eden king taunting at you on top of the diamond 
is the black screen fixed now???
Hopefully. The recent hotfix is supposed to fix it. But none of us have gotten the update yet so we can't test it 