#💬│palia-discussions
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Does anyone else think it would be a great idea to be able to request items even if you have never had said item?
They're permanent
#🌟│sixer-tracker message
Ppl have been wanting that forever. But it's believed that they don't do this so you'll actually play the game
Thank you, you're a lifesaver 
Yeah, like when I found out the animals "retire" I just went...naw. 
I don't really do the ranching skill all that much, not to do anything except collect what they produce. I don't even breed them anymore. Just retire the ones I don't want and buy more until I get the one I want, then just keep it
Yep that treat needs to be reworked I think to apply to all ages. Let us keep our favorites.
The ranching channel has an extremely in depth Copendium that describes all the mechanisms of every trait, every cookie, and how to combine cookies + traits to slow/increase the aging process, as well as anything else. I have found it extremely useful myself to get clarity on how to breed, how to use cookies, etc. Those folks are serious experts -- the Copendium is probably one of the most comprehensive Palia game-play how-to's I've seen.
!maji
It's just annoying how our gardens "freeze" between gameplay sessions, but ranch animal growth does not. IMO those two skills should mimic each other in their playtime methods.
And I DID breed obsessively for a while, but then I took a three day break and all my progress went "venerated"
Eyo Moose! Happy New Year's!
Another year, another chance to have lettuce 
Same. It just made me not want to start all over again 
It just killed the skill for me entirely ngl, I've not even gotten the new animals cause I feel bad getting rid of some of the animals I really like
It'd be nice if there were a special "barn" for storing adult animals, but they do not age or produce goods in. That way you can have more than two of each creature. Not that I see a point in the flower-producing slime dude.
At this point I feel like I'm just doing it out of habit and it's not fun anymore (the animals). I'm sure it will get more intricate and interesting over time since its a whole system, but once I hit level 50 I'm probably gonna stop. I don't like being forced to do it everytime I log in or they'll starve/age/stop producing/etc
We can only have 4 boovers
I'm like NO me needs more boovers
That's not true about the boovers? I have like, a ton
Almost the whole ranch is boovers now lol
Maybe it's the skill level
4 is the optimal production limit, but you can have as many Boovars as you want, they produce more slowly after the optimal level of 4 is exceeded. (this applies to any animal on the ranch as well -- such as bumbles, the optimal level is 12)
Ahhh ok thanks for the clarity 
Yeah I have not used any guides or anything, I just experiment and stuff, but once you have certain traits they just circulate forever (there are some I never see anyway)
So maybe it'll be nice to start over lol
I'm gonna sell all my animals and focus on boovars since the XP is very good with them. I'd like it if they'd put in skills trophy for ranching, too.
My ranching has levelled so much faster than other stuff. I'm still not at 50 for hunting, mining or bug catching and I've been playing since opening day
(That is me agreeing that yes a skills trophy would be cool. Maybe even a very cute one)
I also think the ranching XP goes pretty quickly once you're in the higher level animals. I do not ranch often at all (1x per week, maybe 2) but am 4 levels shy of level 50 for ranching. It would be nice to be able to display it like you can your other accomplishments!
I keep forgetting the ranching tbh 
Yeah it being on a whole separate plot that we can't decorate is pretty meh. Missed opportunity to have it cycle through the seasons.
Yes, I was hoping it was a building set we could put on our plot and decorate
I like the Ranching but honestly yeah
The aging goes way too fast imo
Cuz the thing is, theyre supposed to stop aging if you cant log in to confirm a birthday
And in my experience, they do just kinda sit on the birthday and dont age up past it
But itd be great if they just didnt age at all if we're not online
Like the age counter just stops, or maybe significantly slows down
Or, like the crops with water, they shouldnt age/grow if theyre not fed, so if you dont log in to feed them and they eventually hit 0 food, they should stop growing
I do genuinely like Ranching, i think its a really cool skill and im glad they added it
But it does need tweaking
And yeah i do kinda wish they added a section for it to our plot, but theyd have to either redo every landscape to account for it, or give us more space or something, so i get why they didnt
Or they age after x number of products (after they hit a producing age)? Because I agree, the aging is wildly fast.
Yeah
I like that idea because they also cant produce more if you havent collected them
People were actually complaining about aging being slow till very recently, especially at release. But yeah I agree it needs to be adjusted
At release people wanted babies to stop being babies so they could actually get products and breed them.
Well its like
They start out as babies and then have to age up to start producing
And then you get the birthday and they havent produced anything yet
So i can see why that feels slow
But tbf we get 3 weeks of them being able to produce and breed
3 irl weeks?
Yup
For someone who doesnt play that often, that does seem kinda fast to me
Yeah but for those who play daily or even every other day it's really not, ik lots of people who have to get rid of animals to make space. But like I said it does need to be adjusted
Right, for daily players thats a lot of sessions
I also have animals who are like 6 weeks old and have just become elders because I was offline for so long because of the "you need to interact for aging up thing"
Why do we have a flower limit why cant we increase by paying gold for plot decor limit to be increase like the crafting license
what do people do with their snowmen? i have like 50 idk what to do with :p and when does this nightmare end with snowmen XD
(I'm still half asleep and replying 3 hours later woops)
Fully agree. Or even to let us have the venerated animals roam on the plot (though I know that's just very likely impossible due to their system limitations). Just so many missed opportunities with ranching.
doesnt really explain what people do with their snowmen 🤣
Just decorate with them or trade them. That's it.
maybe someone had some good ideas with them, idk what i can trade mine for tbh, but would love to have somehing else than snowmen :p
The decor limit is there to protect the stability of the game and your Housing Plot. Here's what [S6] Seth wrote recently. #🏡│decor message
Yeah the ranching needs to be relooked at cause i never got passed lvl 5? or 6 i dont remember fully. However since im a budget girly i tend to look at the profits and im forking more money into it then im receiving its busted in my eyes. sure the animals are cute but its yet ANOTHER thing to log in and grind.
couple hours shy of 12 days to get 1 million more snowmen - end datetime in your timezone <t:1768327200:F>
At the base cheapest use of ranching you shouldn't need to put in more than you get out, except for at the very beginning when you need to buy an animal to get up to 2 of a given type. A peki produces around 6 eggs per real life day but only consumes about 15 focus worth of food per same real life day (once I hit 7 and got ormuus everything got fed ormuu milk because I am a lazy rancher). Once you have 2+ of anything you breed them to get all your future animals so that stops costing anything. The only time it really costs is if you're buying a ton of animals from the shop.
There are way more in-depth ranchers who could tell you the minmax ways to get most profit, but if you don't want to put in that level of thought the above will carry you.
it doesnt matter tbh the amount of gold someone has to push to start and even maintain isnt enough for me to want to level ranching. Its just another thing to push players to log in to keep up the numbers. Its just another thing to grind and im fine with buying everything needed like before. I will always see ranching as another form of a gold sink.
I think this is just to keep things from crashing
“I have a question, are you alive? s6 ?
Honestly I did end up selling quite a bit of eggs but considering at the beginning I was purchasing multiple animals to speedrun the leveling, yeah I don't think I made my money back. It just feels a bit unbalanced cause it feels both so hands off but that you also need to min max a lot to get maximum profit, so it kinda scares away more casual players.
Idk though, I mostly just wanted to get the different kinds of animal cosmetics and stuff. The skill just feels so surface level that I'm not into pouring a lot of effort into it because of the way many mechanics feel half baked.
“A lot of mechanics and too many cookies and sleep-standing overalls.
I managed to get good production without doing any specific calculations, but the designer did a poor job in terms of design.”
Yeah honestly, there's so many cookies and some just feel useless or redundant. My main gripe is how the animals become useless after being venerated because they decided to make it so they age while you're offline, while gardening works the opposite way 
I guess all I'm asking is for some consistency.
“I would like to request a complete overhaul of the overall farm design, and I kindly ask S6 to take players’ feedback into consideration on this matter.”
It's only a gold sink if you're going after specific traits, which isn't necessary, or trying to speedrun the leveling, which also isn't necessary.
I'm not denying the skill needs work for consistency (cookies are annoying and offline aging is silly), I'm only saying it's fairly easy to avoid the gold sink aspect of it and turn a profit without engaging too much.
And S6 doesn't watch discord 99% of the time so use the feedback portal.
Ah, but I am using the correct website
!feedback Yeah like mentioned, S6 doesn't read much of what's said here aside from the ocassional dev and when Lacie forwards something to them
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“Seriously, it’s already done.”
“If I’m coming here, it’s because S6 keeps closing my posts without even taking the time to discuss the matter with me.”
That's the support website if you're trying to enter a ticket for a bug. The feedback form is different.
Either way you're not going to get a direct reply from them, unless a dev happens to be here, which is once in a blue moon.
Oh yeah I definitely get what you mean
It'd be easier to simply purchase the first 2 and then breed those endlessly. But I think for many (myself included) we just sank a lot of gold into it to both gain XP faster or try and get certain cosmetic traits.
“In any case, if I have to give my opinion, S6 is in the process of losing a large part of their community because they are enforcing limits on things they originally promoted, such as glitches.”
They'll lose a whole lot more of their community if the game starts crashing because people are glitching too much.
I don't know, a big chunk of the community seems to be happy with the plushes. Sadly it's just that they've always seemed to listen more to overly positive feedback (according to some alpha players as well).
i said the same thing two years ago and here we are lol /j
In that case, the coding related to decoration needs to be reviewed.
sadly i dont think it will. Because s6 claims now that the harvest line is old code while the new house lines are new code
I mean in regards to the glitching, I get the upset, but it's just because the building system is so limited people were forced to find glitches to do certain things.
I remember when EW came out and they used heavily glitched plots in their promos/trailers and it really left a sour taste for many people cause not all of those glitches are accessible, and in some material it wasn't explained or disclosed that the plots were in fact using glitches.
horror flashback to me atempting to place a gem as a soap LOL
I get that some of the more "game breaking" glitches need to be patched out, and Seth explained they don't intentionally try to patch out glitches, but here we are. They've just cornered themselves honestly.
horror flashabck to my forever unfinished flower arch because they patched the way you could place flowers on building blocks 
then if were patching glitches then allow us to place them using like a wand that allows us to place anchors without having to have builders blocks or presents or teacups etc. Have a limit of course but its the qol that EVERYONE is screaming for
Just turn the bugs into features fr
You have a genius who invented third-party software to do this ^^
“Obviously, S6 won’t ask for help from the software designer.”
but if its not related to the game by any means then its not useable per say. I meant as s6 themselfs push that idea and could even use flow wood to make the wand etc to keep it lore wise
We can't talk about that though 
Was wondering when the last day to purchase items from the Winter store is? Want to make sure I buy as much as I can from there before it ends
in like ~2 weeks with the next patch, no exact date given yet but should be around the 13th
Thank you so much!! ❤️
Sorta wonder if we get the update late in the month or if they skip january altogether
- the average gap between patches would put it on the jan 7th
- the Snowman event ends <t:1768327200:F> (shows in your timezone), but patch downtime typically starts 3 hours before that
- devs potentially had something of a winter break or code freeze pushing their schedule out a few weeks
- lunar new year is feb 17th and Luna new year typically overlaps
- Jan 2024 was skipped, Jan 2025 had a patch
There was a January 2024 patch. Patch 0.176 came out on Jan 30, 2024. Are you thinking of Feb 2024?
remember, 2023 was patches every 3 to 16 days -- the jan 2024 patch should have been the first week of january, it was bumped a few weeks because they were out of office for 2 weeks at the end of december and had the cross region play issue to work on (introduced Dec 14th) when they got back
the gap between the Dec 14, 2023 update and jan 30, 2025 is the second longest at 47 days (the longest was between Mar 25, 2025 and May 13, 2025 at 49 days, but that was communicated ahead of time)
Ah that's what you meant. My apologies. I saw that when I went looking for when previous Luna New Year markets came out.
Consistency? Have you ever tried cooking?
Ohhhhh my god I am so sick of the potato pods, they add nothing to my gameplay
Sry I usually love the game, I'll be back to play when there's quests again
Do we still get the Palcat Set when we gift Mystery Outfits? I sent one just now and I didn’t receive anything?
They haven't been distributed yet.
"Players will receive their plushes in their inbox after the holiday is over in early January." #📢│palia-news message
Ah, ok thank you 😊
Dear devs, I am grieving: I need more main quest content. 😭 What should I do? To live my life? Meh. I am also not into improving my plot entirely… I just need to do more investigation of temples and of the fall of humans. 😭 End of complaining, but it still hurts. 🙈
Well this is a life sim first and foremost, so that's what the focus is on
It was advertised as a RPG or maybe MMORPG, I found Palia on steam through this categories 🫣
Steam tags are added by users.
An accurate description would be "life sim with MMORPG elements"
Ok. But still. There is a story, an unfinished story… and I need more. 😭😭😭
I'm kinda bummed I missed out on the Holly jolly wallpaper because I was busy spending time with family Dec 24-26th
I agree with you honestly, think you still got a point with the main story quest not being updated, even if some say it's "a life sim".
i feel this dw 😭
Same. Like I'd rather have quest updates (even more side quests) than a battle pass that gives me wood. 
Oh yeah for sure the story is very much lacking. The game is a glorified grind fest till they finally add the next story update
They will probably hand it out again next year... I have 3 of it
Question - how long will the current 'battlepass' exist and will the new housing pieces be accessible in another way afterwards?
It's permanent 🙂
WOAH awesome! Thanks!
I mean even life or farm sims like The Sims and Stardew have lore and such. Even gacha games like Star Rail update their stories frequently so the excuse is just not there 
They promised new quests every patch a while back, but thats now being fulfilled by the board every month instead of discovery, friendship, or the initial ranching quests.
We do know that more main story is coming
and then ulfe friendship and then unknown amounts or types for like a year and then a new map
Hi!! I was wondering if there was a TIME for the end of today’s outfit sale? And does this include the premium store stuff on sale as well?
I know it ends TODAY but is there a time or is it all day?
#📢│sales-news message No time provided per the sales news post. It will likely go through regular business hours as a guess.
Seriously. Wuwa has a new patch with more story every like 20 days.
(idk how often it is for HSR I just started it heehee).
Tbh I think this was a good way to handle it, for the mid-late game players have something to work on while newer players aren't being overwhelmed with even more quests to do. Some players don't even like doing quests, though I'm not of that mind lol
New story updates are great and I wish they weren't entirely tied to new areas but it is what is. I like completing the bundles tho. Gives me a reason to log back in every month, as they intended
I honestly haven't touched the story in quite a bit but I remember when I first started the main story got quite an update and new zone after 3 months, I'm sure Orii or more experienced star rail fans can correct me 
The bundles are new quests but they do little in expanding the main story line tbh 
I want to play Star Rail, my phone storage forbids me so I can't finish Ampohreus 
Felt, this is me with Wuwa 
This.
They set something cool up with the main quest and I wish it would be expanded more.
I get the whole new players get overwhelmed with quests buuuuuut, there's no time limit on anything except events.
people can manage their time and do things one at a time or whatever. (I say this having played ESO, Skyrim, Witcher, etc). 
I guess it's what happens when your game becomes a plushie collector simulator
/j
Obv we need more plushies. /jokes 
You get a plushie, and you get a plushie!
Yeah they're a little bit more color to the world and so far also another emotional connection to NPCs
Oh man, helping Najuma with her Mum's memorial thing during Halloween had me 😭
Also I guess if the steam tags are user generated it completely excuses why the game wasn't labeled as early access/beta on steam launch
(iirc devs can set tags on launch so)
As interesting as the msq is i would like a little palian geography side quest, but thats just cuz a world or event just continent map would be neat so that we know about more about where the country fits in a larger context and because without it people are real confused when trying to talk about places like bahari (city, province, geographic feature, or nickname for a map)
Oh no they chose that and had to put out a(n insufficient) statement about the game not being appropriately labeled/tagged/described on any platform
Honestly, I don't think the game needs a lot more MSQ (as nice as that would be), and what people want more of is more lore and things to actually do that doesn't feel only like filler that can be done within a couple hours.
It always has seemed like people are wanting more content, and just wanting to learn more about the world as a whole and the NPCs.
And the bundle board for me just feels like a bandaid, that wasn't quite implemented properly. I wish it was more similar to how Stardew has their board. Where you're doing things for NPCs daily (maybe weekly, so it isnt as overwhelming) and learn more about them that way.
I know. But I was referring to how someone was just saying that the tags on steam were user generated hence why it was labeled as a MMO when the game was advertised as such in the past (and still appears as such in other platforms)
Yeah With how much they lean on wanting us to go slow and explore (no hoarding, no mini map, no storage points outnun the world, few shops), you'd think there would be more lore to discover to drive that desired behavior
i'm wondering what happened during my hotpot game. i joined with 1 other person and once the game began i was able to play 1 hand. when my turn came again nxt time i was locked out of playing the game. someone or something else was playing my cards and doing it as badly as possible so i would loose
My take on it is that im not here for a life grindy sim. I could go play sims 4 if i wanted a life sim game. I want more world building and more story content not side quests. Not "heres your bundle quest have at it" What pulled me in the first place was knowing that humans were gone and now all of a sudden poof humans are back but WHY?! Why are we trying to become friends with ulfe? Why is tramaula acting the way she is? Why is Subs sound like shes hiding something more then meets the eye and why does tramula have such bad blood with her? its things like this that im upset about. It really feels like the world building of this game went out the door. WHAT HAPPENEND TO SHEPS?! They pushed how important it was to have one and then poof they collected dust.
Why cant i romance sifuu!? HOW is she connected to the story?!
when the game ended, i looked at the table and i saw my exact hand in front of the other player. is there a mod that allows someone to play as you so they win the game?
Never heard of that happening before Waxy. Did you send a report in?
no i did not. i wasn't sure what was going on and i tried hotpot again with different people at a different table and i was able to play
Just sounds like the game bugged tbh 
i'm new to hotpot so it was wierd
Hopefully you won’t have that happen again and can just enjoy it. Avoid the back table btw, its usually a speed run table
hopefully not
We're the equivalent of half or maybe one whole chapter into the first book in a series, everything pre elderwood was prologue and tutorial with only a partial cast of characters and just fragments of a world map, so we're barely through the establishment of the first story arc with no table of contents or number of planned books or series in this universe
As much as more main story is needed(there's so many questions), we still need accessibility settings, communities to be completed, ranching to be completed, housing lines to be fine tuned, home tours to be fine tuned, performance/optimization to be improved, remaining NPCs without level 5 friendship to get it, lunar paths to be ironed out, social/community housing, follows and kudos to be removed or built out, and more im probably forgetting to be cleaned up
So I'd be happy with some more coloring the world in type content while they do that - tidbits via the board, readable plaques on the art, more readable books throughout the maps and rooms, filling in the empty places (have you noticed that empty stalls, boards, and carts are being slowly filled?)
Then I guess going by that players are never getting new story
I'm honestly a tad confused cause yes, accessibility is definitely needed and some other functions as well, but I don't think anyone was saying it should be the priority.
Does it help to map the connections/jumping off points that prompted each of my comments? They're not intended to be combative.
Want more msq > why isnt there more lore > whay type of game is it > beta/ea game without the label > where are we in the story > where are we in development > what are the elements that are unfinished > how do all these things mesh for prioritizing imo
Wish you could trade me one lol
There needs to be balance. At this point we will never see the story because theres ALWAYS something breaking or bugged on hotfix/patch day or some new housing line thats being pushed out but its not needed tbh atm etc. Its not an excuse anymore it feels like they are ignoring the story on purpose and pushing the "grind fest" as the content now. The devs stated that they wont do any more lvl 5 quests because not alot of people even talked to the chars that do have lvl 5 and its because the npc dialogue is repetitive and now with the wants all on the board made talking to npcs useless unless your doing a quest for them. Devs hear that people want SEE THROUGH WINDOWS for the new housing code (which i switched back to the harvest house line because it just feels better to build with then the new housing lines. That's on me though because i dont like the limit of how many rooms im allowed to have.) I have many gripes about this game because it feels like a blatant cash grab before the games dies type of feeling. im sorry if thats how i feel about it but its been years now and the lack of content vs the amount of things that are STILL broken is wild to me. Things that were promised thats now collected dust. What happened to the co op type housing setup? Wasnt that supposed to launch in the winter time? Communitys was left behind for sure. Shepp quests are the same way. i feel upset because i wanted this game to improve but lately ive been on the fence about how palias been pushing content for a hot min now.
There are a lot of things that need tweaking that I feel are preventing accessibility functions. Things go wrong too often. Im happy that they are filling things out albeit slowly, but I wish they would fix some of the old code that causes most of the accessibility issues to begin with. Rather than slap new code on top. The housing line for example. Its new code that plays with free placement, but fitting the houses together still feel like the old code that the harvest house uses. Why cant they just fix that code with an apology? I feel like there is too much worry about upsetting the player base that it is actually upsetting the player base. Id rather have to redo my plot because they updated code and it messed up some of the things in how they were placed(probably from glitching things) than to continue to get new things that I would still need to glitch anyways to get it how I want
When did they change from new level fives coming with which NPC depending on who has the most engagement back in fall/winter 2024 to no more level 5s at all?? I know they missed the promise of more friendships quests before elderwood, but I missed it if there was a whole sea change there
i remember roughly that a dev stated that since not enough users did the lvl 5 quest that they werent going to add more. Its been a hot min so my memory could be off a little
Most players havent done it cause it takes forever, constantly talking and gifting, and to get max points the villagers want rare items that have a horrible RNG
Why would I want to be close friends with someone who is asking me to buy them luxury brands each week, knowing I work stocking for walmart?
We'll see if the weekly wants discovery method changing impacts friendship and romance engagement at all - plus i know a few people have a bug with the change where gifts aren't limited so they're trying to see if they can speed run things real quick
But that is based on a bug and not the intended gameplay. For those of us who are stuck in our ways of playing by the rules it takes forever. The grind is probably the worst thing in the game atm.
Social housing was on the medium to long term section in the first path video with no eta and was mentioned as still in progress in the most recent
This. It's the balancing issues. Yeah, I get the whole the devs need to make their money and so on and so forth. But when the focus is on monetization rather than fixing what's broke (Tamalas door
) or new content then that's frustrating.
(At least that's my feeling.
but keep in mind I do not care about decorating/housing whatsoever and do it only every so often.
).
Im finding after each palia path video they are realizing the RNG is bad, but it feels like something is holding them back from fixing it. When we got elderwoodz they adjusted the rng for any item required for the temple of the night sky bundle, yet I still see people saying the flametongue and dawn ray are extremely hard to get. After this most recent path video, they gave us buff potions which according to most palians dont even work. Even for this event, they had to give a buff period because the number they set for a goal was unrealistic with the actual turn out. Even with this buff period. Some players just arent getting as much as they should and the ones who do, dont even want to participate
I'm honestly burned out on this conversation after feeling like being talked down to but I agree with your point. There's just no balance. They have a very extensive cash shop at this point, they could simply just focus on an entire QoL update or not pump it as much.
This. Yep. 
My upset is that the game has left people behind in the skills tutorials because there's no 'easy' mode and limited accessible controller support, more were left behind at temple of the gales for the same reasons plus no way to mitigate vertigo, elderwood can barely be seen, text can barely be read, audio has no captions,kilima is temporarily blinding, the market is an er trip waiting to happen- i want to play with the friends I made in game and in here during alpha 2, tech testing, and early beta but they cannot play and are barely into the existing story -- i have personal and professional opinions on how important all this is to the financial health of the game and i want to meet the NPC families, see bahari city, see the Capitol, learn about other countries, and throw down with delaila at the fair in person
Seeing the other cities would be a dream, and getting to meet people who aren't just the villagers
Accessibility and translation may not be primary drivers to growth but they help growth and are key to retention (curb cut effect makes it easier for everone tonpkay more often) -- so that circle with no end of money vs dau/mau vs content vs stability vs new players vs money vs dau/mau ... and on forever needs an even focus
Thats as far back as i could go to try to find the lvl 5 quests it seems the dev that stated had the messages deleted because i cannot find them now
Oh 100%, after all they are a "cozy game" as fans call them, the game should be comfortable for everyone
You know... when we asked for more communication, we didnt expect monthly patches... we just wanted them to talk to us more
Also the monthly patches dont even feel ... monthly? We get them what, 2 weeks into a month? In my honest palian opinion. With the exception of the now monthly board, they can ease up on the monthly patches... they are literally only cash shop and plushie announcements anyways
OMG THERE IT IS ahah thank you! i was forever scrolling cause i JUST KNEW it was there
Hahaha, you're welcome. I just remember too much sometimes 
Orii always has the receipts 
I wish we could search by roles so itd be easier to search all s6 messages
I'm remembering a similar message around that time or a month or two later about more friendship quests before elderwood
I have a spreadsheet if you want patch data - tried to assuage some 'I only have a few days to do my board' panic a few months ago
I mean, I know a few days after that, Vega mentioned they were working on some other quests before Elderwood, and NPC related stuff.
which i think the NPC relatd stuff might of been Subira. Cuz there were talks about her being able to leave and walk around or something lol
ah, that must be it(the phrasing is real similar to what i remembered)! and i just got the things conflated, thank you
Of course. I'm not sure if there was any other talks about that or not. Maybe in some sort of patch notes if that was the case, cuz Vega is the quest-person
, so I usually always just search up their messages if im looking for anything quest-related.
so we have a quest person, housing person, cosmetics person, and maybe others I don't know to search by when looking for topic specific info
There is this when they were talking about lvls, dont know if it helps
and that puts NPCs in different places for players depending on quest progress which sows much confusion 
oh that's the middle of a whole informative convo to remember 👀 6+ years of content/outlines
I hope they achieve their goals, it sounds unrealistic in the times of short form content.
Yeah especially since they had laid off lots of the dev team who had worked on Palia.
wonder how much they've grown from 40-60 employees at the time of acquisition last summer
They simply set up too many expectations in different areas and have cornered themselves in a situation where half of the playerbase will be happy while the other half isn't (like with the new tinting system, new housing lines ,etc).
Yeah, and Vega is the person who I/others talked with here, about potential workarounds & solutions for Temple of Gales (and other temples and accessibility with them). Will always be grateful for those talks, because they actually listened and talked about that stuff as a whole.
I just... hope it eventually gets worked on more eventually & potentially even be a priority. Since that's a huge MSQ barrier haha
the 6+ years could map to a different timeline with the changes in development cadence and shifting priorities too
If this was 2010, I would be like oooh wow, 6+years of game content?! Amazing!!
But now im like, I can barely get my friends to play a game for more than an hour, they like playing quick games like R.E.P.O. or Peak. The only longterm game they ever play is minecraft... and thats more of putting it down and returning to it during the winter
wow, final fantasy, and more that I don't know because this is my first mmo since... toontown online? (does that count? 🤣 ) have been chugging for ages
idle and rhetorical question - I wonder what the milestone is for that longevity
With the exception of final fantasy, the last mmo I was consistently active in was GaiaOnline's zOMG, and they had to halt development die to lay offs, in like 2009 and their game didnt get updated until 2011 and it was one area... thankfully lore wise, they had their holiday events and their manga...
But we dont have anything to fill in the gaps between major questlines here.. its literally me hosting conspiracy theory nights and the rest of us over in #1135681800434352138
maybe the in game comms changes lacie has mentioned will let her run some more ad hoc events? or help her try different engagement experiments? to help some of that without dev/eng hours? yes this is grasping
Same. If it wasn't about worrying missing out on events/bundles I would too be playing other games like swtor. I finished most quests including all of the main ones so far. Just been trying to finish romancing all the NPCs as well as accomplishments.
omg gaiaonline now THATS a game i havent touched in years
I get why some games add combat. Fishing. Farming, and resource gathering arent enough
days and weeks between patches - all time, before jan 2024 when patches were very frequent, and after jan 2024 when they became monthly
I played so much Gaiaonline in middle and high school.
I was so obsessed with zOMG and hanging out in the towns thing. (I wanted the Inari beads outfit so bad and never got it hahahaha)
Somehow Neopets is also still chugging along.
Lawd, I'm getting old. 
This was me but with Club Penguin and Pet Society on Facebook
good times
Oh man, the Facebook games haha. I think it was...vampire wars, cafe world, Farmville..all the Zynga games.
if there was a farming or life sim then I was playing it.
(I'm not exactly sure which channel to put this in. Sorry if it's the wrong one.
)
Does anyone know when or if the pavers are getting fixed/ go back to being multiple sizes?
Zynga and Playfish had the BEST games tbh
Country Story nowadays would've been so succesful
You're good! And yes, they should be fixed next patch, according to a dev iirc.
Omg yes it would have.
Those two and big fish games, those hidden object games like Puppet show were so goated.
(And going through my phone games I've been finding out so many games are either shut down or are shutting down.
).
And the dress up games omg
I'm getting so nostalgic.
(And same, it's lowkey sad seeing some of them forever gone, the common fate of all live service games, sadly.)
On the topic of mobile games, having a hotpot mobile game would be so neat though 
Me too 😭 mall story, etc.
(Yeah 😭 two of them was revue starlight, apparently shutdown two years ago
that's how often I check my phone games I guess. And guitar girl).
A hotpot mobile game, and also I've seen people making the game themselves, if S6 had merch like the hotpot game for IRL, it would sell out.
(It's why I'm forever happy Nintendo at least made Pocket Camp purchaseable and turned it into an offiline game 😭 I was so sad when it was announced it'd be shut down).
Honestly tempted to make a hotpot out of air dry clay now but if they ever did release a physical version I'd be so willing to buy it.
(same 😭. I hate it when games get shutdown and don't have an offline mode and go poof. Games like Kawaii Pet Megu and others just lost media now).
Ooooo that would be so cool if you did! Would love to see it if you ever decide to do it. 
I was watching the Grinch today.. and i was thinking something like a christmas silly outfit/grinch would fit so well in Palia
We need more silly outfits that are for everyone!
Take a look at fortnite they have a splendid amount of outfits and character skins to choose from..
I think personally that character skins would fit in Palia if the world is bigger with a trading city like Zeki dreamed off abroad the shores!
There so so much room for vibrand mmo things
From trading cities to sailing seas like the moana boat but simpler..
That way we have a wayfarer skill and fising skill expanded
What i want for Palia in 2026 is a bigger game an expandable world a living environment where npcs talk to each other
Also trading skill can bring up new skills like a sewing skill where we can sew for plushies and clothes where we need very rare materials for
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is paving still glitched?
yes. there was no patch yet, next patch should be in like 2 weeks.
<@&1216796663071637585> there's a spammer in multiple channels, sorry for ping
What milestone are we at for the snowman?
does anyone know when the bundles will reset? i havent been able to get around to doing the cooking part of the bundles and im wondering if i still have time to do them
we still have a few weeks
bulletin board changes with a patch and the next one wasn't announced yet
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How many NPCs can you romance at once?
All of them if you desire!
Excellent 👍 I've done a few but I was only doing 2 at a time
Last I saw we have hit the 2 million mark
is there an artifact trading thread?
There's #🤝│trading which is for artifacts, plushies and stickers.
Do you think Palia will come up with another town like Bahari or the Elderwood?
Maybe? But they'll make an announcement here (through the community manager) and here https://palia.com/news
People theorise the next are would be Zendruu Way (however it's called), but considering how long EW took, it could take a while.
Per the dev updates (aka palia path) they have started work on the next adventure zone, one of the videos even shows a player running through the totally empty space
wonder if we will ever get a boat adventure of some kind or something involving water. i think it be super cool to try to find old relics and stuff from the ancient humans
A water based adventure zone would be so awesome
agree!
Could someone help me understand please
I have a few spare coins and was wondering with the path of the kitsuu if I unblock all paths does that mean I get everything or do I have to still grind ?
If you've completed all the levels you should be done with the Path of the Kitsuu. You can't really grind if you've completed the battle pass
but if you have spare coins from purchasing the premium path just keep them saved up for stuff in the premium store or whenever they add on to the battle pass.
"unlock all levels" is a skip level package and means you earn XP without playing the game; this package does not unlock premium content access. If you want access to the premium cosmetics in the Lunar Path, you need to buy the premium package at 1,975 coins (and play the game to earn XP). buying both packages awards you level unlocks and access to the premium content within the LP.
Ohhhh that makes so much more sense thank you 🙂
ok cool tysm!
guys, can we have more than 8 chest? i'm out of storage..
have you upgraded all of them to the max size?
i just made 1 iron chest
do you have 8 iron chests placed down?
if not, you should do this to increase your storage. replace the copper/wooden chests with iron chests.
at least 1 set of ur chests need to be all of one type of the max upgrade you have unlocked to take advantage of full storage limits.
and then replace the iron chests with palium chests - that is the largest you can get
and also you can have 3 lock box chests as well i think
HUGE PET PEEVE: It’s getting really common and super frustrating that people will call out a grove to chop at 3, and then a few people will just show up and chop them all before 3. Just happened twice in the same server, I waited 24 in game hours for a grove and twice in a row people came and chopped before everyone could get there.
omg same, a grove was called out and I BARELY got there before someone was already chopping one of the smallest trees down. Then as soon as that one was down the others all chopped the rest
my experience is chopping at 5 but I didn't even have time to ask them to wait before they were almost all down
Y'all are not alone. When the 3am courtesy rule is broken, that's when the darkness comes out 
Hey is the game server offline right now? I’ve not played for longtime and I can’t login
Regarding the grove:
Ive been told that if yhe trees get partially chopped abd then are able to regenerate, you can get more xp from cutting them down, so people will get a hit or two on the bigger trees to get more xp (and also to help guarantee that theyll be able to loot that tree once others get there)
But the small ones ate generally small enough that one or two hits will cut them down completely, so people will entirely accidentally chop those
However, if the 3 am courtesy rule is established and people totally ignore it, thats a whole other thing
i'm very late to this so not pinging, but it got me to update by little saved info snippet
- Storage Chests - https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Storage_Chests (upgraded recipes from the Furniture Store register)
- Chests - 8 across all plots for a total of 14k storage when using all Palium Storage Chests (More chests cannot be placed for decoration/access purposes any longer)
- Wooden Storage Chest recipe - 500 Gold
- Copper Storage Chest recipe - 10,000 Gold
- Iron Storage Chest recipe - 50,000 Gold
- Palium Storage Chest recipe - 100,000 Gold
- Lockboxes - https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Lockbox_Storage_Chest - Recipe is 1,000 Gold. Limited to 3 across all plots for a total of 300 secured storage that will not be used for recipes, requests, or bundles (More chests cannot be placed for decoration/access purposes any longer)
- NOTE: Decor does not take up storage space in any type of chest, Decor storage is unlimited
small trees still take at least 8 chops, I've been in an empty server and chopped a small flow tree before. So I don't think it's accidental unless 8 people are for some reason all trying to tag a small flow tree at the same time. There's also been a marked uptick in people not calling out things or ignoring the unofficially expected time to wait for things
Is there a channel were we can help each other get nameplates from house tour?
does anyone know how to make muujin bahari recipe and i can help with the meal
do you still need?
After Winterlights ends, will the Kitsuu Plushes still be obtainable via mining their respective ores? Or will they be gone for good?
Plushies are permanent items in the game
Ok! Will they still be obtainable at the same drop chance currently via mining or will the chance to obtain them be moved to other methods such as trading or Zeki’s lucky coin?
S6 hasn't specified if they will be in the capsule machine or removed from mining. Based on past experiences, once the plushie is introduced via a certain method, it tends to stay in that method.
Thank you for clarifying. I’m new, so I wasn’t sure how these special events/plushies get rotated in/out or get to stay lol. Maybe S6 will decide to add them to the lucky coin loot pool also! That would be awesome! Thanks again Frogga!
That would be a pretty cool idea if they could get added into the capsule pool! Some plushies are time limited (such as login rewards or twitch drops), but, nearly every (if not every!) plushie is available in the trading market too.
I wish there was more than one monthly challenge. Ive pretty much done all quests, and achievments. The monthly comes out, it gets done within a week and then im just twiddling my thumbs for the next 3 weeks lol
Hey guys, anyone know when we will get the rewards for sending the Mystery outfit gifts? I sent out 3 but didnt get the rewards, i thought maybe they would come through after the 12 days event ended but still nothing. 
S6 said they'd send those somewhen mid-january, so you'll likely have to wait a few more days.
Oh ok, thank you so much. 
Does anyone know if we are going to have to wait until the 13th for the stepping stones to be fixed?
We will have to wait until the January patch, yes. The date has not been announced yet, so there are no guarantees the patch will happen on the 13th.
i need help on a quest: The true treasure: ||ive been gone for some time and it tells me to "Return to Auni or Nai'o." but i cannot remember where they are lol. Not on my map, must be in some cave or whatever, but I've searched everywhere ||
The cave is in D8 of the Docks area in Elderwood. You will see the entrance within the rocks (a dark triangle-ish spot). If you are trying to finish the last scene of the quest, catch Auni at his treehouse to do so
thanks! 😄
someone know when is the next update ?
Nobody will know the next update date until Lacie (the CM) shares the information in the Palia News channel. You can also check on palia.com and sign up for email updates as well, as they'll post patch teasers/patch info on their site as well, and send email updates when patches go live.
ORE COMPASS: I thought it was only supposed to point to rare ores? While when I use it it points to any dang rock.
It will point to large nodes
It points to any large and rare nodes, so it’ll also include large stone, copper, iron, and palium
I do wish they’d add a different symbol for rare nodes because I try to use the ore compass to complete my weekly challenges and after the 15 minutes, I’ve found like 1 maybe 2 gold 😭
Can anyone help, I feel like I'm missing something - when I connect Alchemist rooms I have no internal doors. Just blank walls. It's not behaving like harvest house where you get the archway connecting rooms. I've tried every connection and rotation I can
Ooh thank you! And I agree!! Or maybe have a recipe for a specific ore you are trying to fulfill would be nice!
In placement mode you have to click edit on the room like with the harvest house, to add a doorway or remove the wall all together, I know on console you click right joystick
OMG THANK YOU! I knew I was being silly. I've not built any houses in aaaaaages as I only ever use one plot for my cluttered little cottage. Alchemist set has finally made me want a second plot. Appreciate you 💜
the star ogopuu scale and no other active quests makes me want to quit this game for the moment. THAT OGOPUU SCALE IS GOING TO MAKE ME LOSE IT.
are duskwings glitched and not spawning or am i just severely unlucky?
The do spawn, go Maji Hollow, and go over the little bridge, they usually spawn there. It's a little hard to see them unless you're kinda close
ive been using lures and buzzy jars at the dragon shrine but to no avail
Hi!
I just started playing Palia yesterday, I am definitely in need of more money 😂 I heard you can join cooking parties to make gold coin - how would I find those?
!cakeparty below are some instructions :-) There usually are some specifically marked for beginners, and some roles don't require ingredients, either of those might be particularly interesting for you.
How to join a Cake Party: You can check available parties made here: https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1445866314949202012
- Double check all info within the post's Title and Description, provided by the Original Poster/Party Owner.
- Make sure you have enough ingredients for the amount of cakes specified in the post, as well as enough time to complete them (some cake parties can be quite time consuming).
- If a link is provided for the Party App as a signup, make sure you select the correct cooking station (which shows how much of every ingredient is required) and that your name is the same as in-game (this is for getting invited by the Party Owner).
- If you've already signed up, but can't make it in time for the specified start time (it is better to be ready a bit early to avoid delays), or don't have enough ingredients, it's best to let everyone know you're withdrawing. If using the app, you can click the Withdraw button.
For more information, check out the Guide to Cake Parties.
Thank you so much! I don’t have a huge amount of ingredients yet so will try and find some beginner friendly ones ☺️ it’s so addictive. I’m back to work today after the holidays but wish I could be playing. I love it 🥰
Cake parties have some free roles that don't require ingredients, or you can try to collect some sweet leaf in Bahari Bay.
Please does anyone know how to fix this?
https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1135680775698792488 try here they may be able to help if anyone is on and in the chat atm
Ok thanks
Exit steam completely and restart it and Palia.
Ya I tried that. I even just reinstalled. I’m still getting that
Is anyone else unable to purchase coins through steam? I sent tech support an email about this, they gave me some options to try which i did and it failed. Then I got an email back saying they are aware of this and are trying to fix it. Its been a few weeks now and I havent heard anything.
What is the specific error you receive when trying to purchase coins? Some errors have player-side work-arounds and some don't -- if it's validating purchase error, turning on the overlays will help. if it's fetch our current offers later error, that is palia-side with no player-side fixes.
Ooo I will have to check next time I am online. Its kind of like "something went wrong, please try again later. If problem persists contact support"
Do you play on PC?
I do!
Nice! Did support advise you to resync your PC date and time when you were talking with them?
They did not, they gave me these options.
Reopen the store
Relaunch the game
Change your in-game display graphics and resolution
Reinstall the game
Turn on Steam overlay (if you're playing on Steam).
Got you. It could be worth a try. Close steam/epic/launcher, whatever you play Palia on, completely (and Palia as well). And then resync your PC date and time, and then restart Palia and see if anything refreshed for you.
Resync date and time: right click your date/time in lower right hand corner, then adjust date and time, and then hit the sync now button in the middle (even if it says it's synced).
I will try that! Thank you.
🤞 I hope it works for you
Lately I’ve been finding there’s either tons on a lure, or none at all. Seems to be all or nothing
Interesting
anyone know why the server has been laggy or why ppl that arent on your friends list and you hbave it set to friend and npc only ppl get through that. and haven a hard time with turning lights on or emotes not workn or server is lost over and over again
It didnt work 😞
hey I want to ask something, I will be extremely grateful if anyone would like to answer🙏
I've watched lots of tutorials that teach how to build out of home bounds(0:57~1:57) like this videohttps://youtu.be/UQcce7PABh4?si=XFIRdUJER6YlIhFD, i tried multiple times and the same way as the video but I still failed (every time after the floor success sink underground, when I want to change the placement, it still tell me that I can only place inside the bounds), none of the tutorials i could find mentioned this problem, I can't figure out which step I did wrong, does anyone might faced a similar situation before🥲
In this video I show how I decorate the mailbox and do other out of bounds decorating in Palia. This all works at of patch 0.182
My in-game name is Theoden. Come find me on the tour board!
This is my basic techniques video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbVxXlTyNSs
Check out the Unofficial Palia Housing Discord: https://discord.com/invite...
The decor channel can probably best answer this question, as depending on when this video was made, some decor methods may be patched out now.
oh there's a decor channel, my bad, still thank you!
No worries! They're gonna be able to help you figure out the missing step for your project!
I hope this is right channel to leave some wishes to Devs or share thoughts.
I wish there are more NPCs in Palia so we can get more quest and events.
Thought it might be hard to suddenly widen the Kalima village and villager. So what if there is a system like greeting tourist or visitor to the village?
Like Subira is kind of visitor of village- so we welcome the NPCs. But since Ahura's Inn seems full (could only find 2 doors, one for Ashura and one for Subira) so there is special area (slot) to decorate home for visiting characters. Most of time they stay in that area (just like other NPCs do in their shop or home) and move around village to tour.
And depending on decorating style, if it satisfies the visitors taste, they stays longer and we get more time to build relationship with them.
By completing quests with the visitors, i hope it could be a chance to obtain rare recipes for food or furniture that we can collect.
!feedback will lead you to the best way to get suggestions to the devs, as a lot of what gets written on the Discord in general goes unseen (unless Lacie is around haha) 
Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?
- To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
- To discuss issues with other players: #💬│palia-discussions
- To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
- For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com
tysm! will try this one!
I have noticed this as well . I couldn’t load in a few times yesterday , then I had to close app because I couldn’t do anything in my garden . The opus are disappearing for me mid hunt
bruh by the time the continued story of elderwood is released im gonna forget what i even did
I don't even remember what (if anything) elderwood added to the existing story. All I remember is essence farming and Subira making me do her literal job. Also Tamala being sketchy.
we'll find out in another year
Yeah that basically sums it up tbh.
So this just happened on my server. I don't know who the user is that did it (others reported them), but they started by placing lures on the tables so we couldn't see the cards and later they set off fireworks.
Unfortunately this seems to have become a common issue in the Underground. You can still send in a report to Player Support if you'd like, and send in the screenshot
Will do, thank you!
Honestly this really upsets me because I can't conceive how players think this is completely alright to do. Not saying it's necessarily malicious but considering the whole snowball fiasco and how some people will people, I don't know what to think.
Man, some people suck.
I don't even have any vision problems but this screenshot alone hurts my eyes. I can't imagine how it is for those with vision accessibility issues because some kid thinks this is funny for some reason.
Yep, exactly. And I remember one day mentioning the snowball flashbang and someone wanting to try it out on someone. They retracted after it was explained it was a literal health hazard but I still was
reading that.
Yeah, people not thinking about the health (or safety) of others. 
The fact that lures and fireworks are able to be placed on the underground is just a complete oversight on S6's part and lowkey negligent. Like why even would those be able to be set off there, it makes no sense 
Remind me but, afaik, there still isn't a photo sensitivity warning in game right?
Fireworks shouldn't be allowed indoors period. I wonder if there's even any distinction in the code between indoor and outdoors(?)
Likely not tbh, though I wouldn't have thought that it was a thing until people started doing it in the UG.
It sucks that games like Palia still attract these kinds of people. Like... go be annoying in CoD or something
There is, but, if I remember correctly -- it comes up 1x during account/character creation.
the fact that this shows up once is comical, im assuming theres no other way to bring this popup again fromthe settings, no?
I don't think there is
Correct, it shows up once during the account/character creation, then never again. But it def should be something that is prompted each time-- esp when new flashing effects get added (or can occur, whether intentional or not.) 
(And yes, technically there is one when loaded on switch, but that's bc of switch/nintendo and the default for that. not something that was from palia itself
)
Even the Wii back in 2007 had health warnings in every loading screen in WiiSports, one simple warning before the title screen would be bare minimum tbh.
Ideally we wouldn't have so many random and unnecessary flashes 
it seems like the industry standard is showing a photosensitivity warnings on ever load/login of the game, so Palia's behind on that - some are generic and others specific about what kind of triggers are notable
Hopefully S6 is able to find a way to make sure people can't put lures or fire off fireworks in the underground and so on.
Cause sure, they can ban people who do it, but it just needs to not happen.
I'm sure at least the lures would be simple enough (though perhaps not considering the frogs
) but I'm hoping since Lacie has notified the team, that they will give this some urgency.
Specially after the whole snowball fiasco.
I wish the bloom event required less watering...
Same, like I play solo and I'm pretty anti social in MMOs but that's one thing that I'm like yo, plz help. 
I've completed the bulletin board and finished the lunar path. Sick of christmas now. Time for a patch please s6 🙌
why does tailor tickets have a cap 
Cause they don't want us to hoard and unlock all the palettes (obvs joking here but
)

also give us back our rerolls pls
Completely skipped on the Lunar path. Complete waste of time. All the rewards are distasteful.
Just jumping in to say you can't place lures in that hidden zeki cave in bahari, so I'm shocked it's possible in the ug
Make it make sense. Please.
The WHAT cave??? Do you mean that mysterious door I have been trying to get into isn't just decoration?? (This is not sarcasm I am increasing my friendship level with him NOW)
It's not behind a door lol, it's just hidden. (Don't want to say more to avoid spoilers)
Omg what the heck is this doorrrr best believe I will be finding this cave though
I'm gonna guess the only reason it doesn't allow fireworks is because it's an instance rather than an open area like the UG but it's been so long I can't remember 
Na fireworks were allowed in there, only lures were not
Ah
Still my same thought though, but in regards to the lures.
I mean the cave near|| hideaway bluffs not the lighthouse one||
Again, it's been so long, I can't really remember. But if its the one I think it is, yeah then they def could've done the same for UG.
distasteful as in offensive or as in you didn't like it? /gen
The game needs to have warnings about bright lights every time you open it like most games do
I know it sounds excessive but that is actually unironically the standard. Because light sensitivity and similar disorders are serious and can be life-threatening
I genuinely do not mean to sound argumentative but I don't think any of the games I play have photosensitive warnings every time I open the game
unless they did the first time and had a "do not show again" button that I clicked and forgot
Same but that's bc I mostly play indie games. This is the norm for most big games.
well. This is very much not a big game, it's still in beta
You joined a year or so ago? They used to have a ton of employees. Game was supposed to be big and had a ton of money invested into it which disappeared like the Avatar when he was most needed.
And we still don't have a VFX filter do we? I'm asking bc I haven't played in a while. A ton of cosmetic effects are very distracting
Oh and axe + pickaxe effects
I joined the discord around then, yes. Having a ton of employees and lots of potential doesn't change the fact that it's still an indie game in beta
I actually used to think the same in the past but this is not an indie game
ok, i agree, it isn't strictly an indie game. But it's still a game in beta
no we don't have the outfit vfx toggle yet (or any other vfx toggles)
Been years since we've been asking for this... gotten tiring atp
yeah, players have had their hands on versions of the game since July 2021 and it seems like the basics (bulk actions, safety settings, accessibility settings including captions, better in game information) have been requested almost that long
I still can't believe we don't have captions yet
Captions? /Gen
re: size and how indie it is - around beta launch in August 2023 there were an estimated 200ish employees across all job functions and in summer 2024 it was down to an estimated 40-50 before the studio was acquired, we don't know how/if they've upstaffed or if they handle their own admin and support (numbers are from articles tracking the studio news)
the voiced lines and the directional sound cues
I genuinely don't think they've upstaffed because the recent updates have been more than lacking
As in they're giving a ton of reused content as updates
The only actual updates so far has been to ranching (which tbh doesn't feel like a skill at all) and the adding of creatures (ranch and pets).
Idk I see things as pretty bleak it's very disappointing
Ah gotcha
Also I was raised in a farm for a good part of my life. Idk how to tell you how disappointed I am with the ranching.
what's the threshold for new/updates? hodari romance, subira, a few level 5 friendships, home tours, elderwood, ranching, monthlies, lunar paths, home lines
As in when they were acquired
even Luna New year with hotpot was after things settled down post launch and they moved to monthly patches instead of every 3-16 days
I count it as the elderwood release and the other updates
so 9 months after acquisition?
A majority of people are into aesthetics (decor, collecting) more than lore from what I've seen so they do tend to cater to that
ps5 & xbox launches went so much better than switch even happening alongside elderwood
And they've been failing at that considering the decor is also reused
But I agree basic gameplay functions atleast like bulk buy and VFX toggles need to be added
I remember during acquisition we got content that was already in the works. After things settled we've been getting nothinburger updates
People have been demanding asking for all the decor and plants seen throughout the maps and duplicates of functional crops as decor, so can't blame them too much for taking the low hanging fruit while redoing the underpinnings too ... though housing lines still need serious work
Most of me and my friends are pretty happy and we do really care about lore stuff too, so it's def a part of how varied the player base is
Luckily the paths make it seem the ew storyline and new map should come out sometime this year 🤞🤞
You and your friends are happy because you're new players judging by your join date. Once you reach the point where you feel that the game suddenly stopped having content and you notice that the upcoming updates aren't adding for the content drought your feelings will change.
NPC pathing, housing/decor, and... i forget if there was another thing or two? that they had to rebuild in order to be able to make changes to it
I need more mainline quests if they want me to play more than an hour a day
Lmao I left and rejoined the server so don't go by that
honestly i think they only want people to play 5-10 hours a week, logging in nearly daily - it looks good on paper to have steady DAU and keeps players going slow like they want
I see. I just think you could play better games if you wanna build and stuff
Like the Sims (but don't give EA money because ew)
Multiple things had to be re coded for housing/decor from what Seth said
Also if they can't make something as simple as small clutter objects here and there like they did with the kitchenware clutter a while back what even is the point
At times a lot of us aren't asking for the Mona Lisa ingame we just want something and we're not getting it
this week i've started getting homestead lights at my plot entrance again 😆 so that old glitch is back despite the work on the background tech, think I'm closing in on 100 of them - this is one of the funny/silly ones
Also I tried to simulate what he was talking about with the new housing line window cutout things in blender, and nearly blew up my laptop lmao
So I can see why that would be hard to code
As much as we enjoy this game, that will be is undoing
Basically
just a bummer since the truly clear windows was such a lauded differentiating factor to other farm/life sims with decorating and that it exacerbates the lighting issues inside, but they're supposed to be iterating on the feature (though I know clear windows are far far off, we could still get better lighting) and we're supposed to be taking it to it's limits
I think it's a factor of palia has a WIDE player base that all prioritises different things.
i think palia might have a quiet couple months with the acnh update or at least it'll give an idea of the overlap in player bases
Oh for sure!! Like I was someone attracted to palia because it's a jack of all trades game, but that intrinsicly limits them from focusing a bunch on one thing. I want all the cool pretty stuff, plus more msq's and lore but I also want them to take 3 months and fix basic ui/ux/ stuff like bulk buy VFX togles the premium shop etc
Acnh update?
Animal Crossing New Horizons is getting a content and qol update next week for switch 1 & 2 with a bit extra for switch 2
Ohhh yeah I heard about that
And like another thing here if we're talking about more quests is that people like me, like harder quests like the temples or deciphering clues and solving puzzles. but a bunch of people don't. So unless they build in like a hard/easy mode choice or something a part of the player base WILL be disappointed
I would love a few "light" updates (decor, outfits, board) with substantial updates to performance, safety & accessibility settings, lighting throughout the game, and QOL things like bulk buy. Unfortunately that's a risk with a player base clamoring for features, quests, and lore that could go very badly on the PR side even though that sort of clean up and optimization work could better enable those asks.
Yeah I fear updates like that can only happen in the immediate aftermath of either the ew expansion or after the new zone releases
just seeing the things we know are/have been on the "To be prioritized" list of work would be great though - outfit vfx toggle, alternate pathing for the temples (like is in temple of the roots), fixed/new in game communications
could sneak it in with returning events too since those are "new" enough to cover for it
but upper management wants quarter over quarter increases in growth at every company, so quality work of any type doesn't get the greenlight anywhere
Yeah they could even retool something like flower bloom maybe? And have a more rotating cast of flowers and potato pods?
Yeah I genuinely think the only way it's possible is if it's in the immediate aftermath of a big update and they really push the pr narrative of "becoming more accessible/ listening to players"
maybe the better chapaa chase spawn rate comes back again with the luna new year market and maybe they'll put in some fixes to the market so it stops knee capping the game when there's major behind the scenes updates, but we didn't really get anything with spirit fest or winterlights .... besides the blinding white in kilima
they skipped a month before elderwood, so the patch before and the patch after a major update (like for the new area they've started on) could absorb it in a "getting ready for the major update" and "further optimizing the major update", but I'm not holding my breath. They announced an accessibility audit in the first palia path post, but there's been no mentions or allusions to it since
Yeah I'm not holding my breath either, i was just stating the only way I could see optimisation / qol stuff happening
Because lord knows it will probably need a few months of dedication for that
Also, it being in beta, imo, does not matter.
There's no reason for the photosensitivity warning to pop up only once or for people to be able to put lures and fireworks in places like the underground. 
They update the cash shop all the time, put an advertisement in the loading screens, they can look at things like the above and other accessibility issues.
That's just me tho. 
Me scrolling through last night's convo: 
I guess the beta label will excuse anything by this point.
But I'm going to say this, even games that don't necessarily have a "photosensitivity warning", might have photosensitivity settings or some option to actually reduce bright lights. Infinity Nikki introduced a photosensitivity mode a couple patches ago iirc, Stardew Valley allows you to turn off lightning.
Like, this might be a terrible analogy but say someone is allergic to peanuts, for example. And they purchase some food, only to find out it actually contained peanuts but it wasn't mentioned anywhere and have an allergic reaction. That's why there's allergen labels in foods (that aren't always exactly accurate but it's still an indicator). At least that's how I view it.
Literally floors me every single time. 
How's it going everybody, Quick question... I have seen awhile ago some thing about a quest/ story with hadori and his sisters wedding? if that's so how would i go about starting that?
Specially when there's people that have already reported seizures/migraines/etc from playing the game and encountering flashes. I know people who have had to outright quit playing because of it.
Ah, that quest is called || "Platinum Wedding Bells" || and Hodari should give it to you after you reach/complete his level 2 Friendship quest, I believe.
B-but it's in beta! What could they possibly do with their biggest moneymaker? /jokes 
Wait is beta being used as an excuse for the game not having a photosensitivity warning upon load
I was doing closed beta testing last year for another game and they already had it in there, what's S6's excuse
It's too much effort
/j
Skill issue tbh
But yeah, lmao. Imagine a lawyer using this as an excuse in court.
"But your honor, it's in beta".
The only thing I could believe is the fact that once it becomes a full-blown game and it gets out of beta and continues to not have the description. They definitely could get sued
We're gonna break Star Citizens record.
/Jokes 
They could get sued even before that tbh. Iirc, there's already been cases of people ending up in the hospital or with migraines during the snowball flashbang disaster.
Half Life 3 released before Palia leaves beta /j
Huh...I don't think I like that..
That's a possibility
It's reportedly in final stages of development
So is there like no combat at all like at all?
this is the main reason i'm shocked at there not being a warning every time the game starts up, the exposure is wild especially with people previously talking in this discord about being sent to the er because of the game
hi more active chat me and my bf are finally trying out palia Im forcing him to play
What do we do instead of fighting stuff
a great game

anyone got any tips before we hop into the gametho
from all the Q&A and write ups (s6 is about 8 years old, so there's plenty to read) there will be no combat, but that's probably a little flexible on the PVE front. So far the only PVE is hunting sorta now that the ogus hit back to slow us down
theres issues about the pve? whats been going on with that?
It can be overwhelming to start especially with the avalanche of tutorial and intro quests. Go slow, explore, unpin any quests you don't want to deal with yet, ask for help in chat, and just enjoy the journey - somewhat more specific tips #💬│palia-discussions message
have a massive rubber duck army! LOL (okay poofing now)
awesome tysm for the help!! @lunar cosmos this is all good to know, we dont have to do all the tuts at once like most games make us do we can do them at our own pace
no i didn't mention any issues? they've just shown flexibility on some of their previous blanket statements, we expect magic of some sort to be added based on things that would be spoilers to mention, and there's very very loud factions of players that want combat or will quit if combat is added so they're probably going to try to navigate a middle ground at somepoint
Interesting
well I meant the last part, you said the 'ogus hit back to slow us down' so I thought that was like an issue between devs or something and another company
Maybe add an optional combat dungeon then anyone who doesn’t want it that complains about the optional combat is just complaining to complain
like they got sued or something cuz of an issue 😭 like palworld and nintendo, which im really hoping never happens to this or any other game I play
Naw, it's a creature. It shoots slime at you to slow you down.
nope, you can go to the elderwood (leave your plot via the bahari bay exit and go left, enter the big door) and meet the big lizards who spit on you to slow you down - but it's really further into the story so you won't be able to do much there
OOOOOOOHHHH thst makes more sense LOL
thats fun im actually really excited to see them ive been wanting to try out this game for forever
The devs want players to go slow (there used to be a lot more friction built in), explore, memorize the map, avoiding hoarding, play together, gather resources on an as needed basis, have (near) daily shortish play sessions
To be honest i dont think palia should add dungeons. Thats not how paila as a whole would work. Though a way they could get around it would be like having a world boss dungeon and it could be players showing up to fish out the maws for example and have a exclusive plush connected to it and it would take alot of players to show up so it would add to the multiplayer aspect
thats good for us, we've been needing a cozier game to play and this seems perfect, we dont have to rush or hoard or anything honestly and its meant to be played together, and from what weve seen so far the community is great
one thing i suggest is not to run into others lures and wait to chop flow tree groves around 3 if you dont want to upset other players
Maybe - it would have to be like another optional area (you may want to discover yourself ||The Tower - an only up platform puzzle thing in the underground||) which some people feel has disappointing rewards because locking coveted items behind things a chunk of players cannot do is not a good idea, so again trade offs and struggling to make as many groups happy as possible
Also upgrading tools isn't like other farming sims where you gather the materials and $ and go to the blacksmith.
You work on the skill, the miner (Hodari) sends you a letter automatically, then you go and buy the recipe and then you go to your crafting bench to see what material you need, gather it, and then you have an upgraded tool. (Other tools you'll find out who is who by playing the game lol).
But be careful to not let the durability go to 0 otherwise it downgrades to the previous quality. You can still craft the upgrade though, but sometimes it's a pain to get certain things.
You can romance all of the NPCs that can be romanced.
For weekly wants go to the bulletin board that's in the middle of the town.
Take your time. Other good resources are #1445866314949202012 #💬│lfg-chat and #1267631845013721158
There are informal and formal cooking parties, you can find beginner friendly ones, etc.
I mean Nikki has them, if they were repeatable instances like that to gather resources, it would be fun. But I also doubt they'd actually add this.
yeah…I found my first grove the other night and chopped a couple and then they explained waiting till 3. I felt so bad lol
Making a cozy mmo (well mmo lite really) that is home for everyone has set expectations that the main story, skills, areas, and items will be accessible ... which has put them in tough positions at times with not including features and they're not meeting that expectation re:accessibility (yet?) either
i mean coming from nikki yeah i would LOVE to have a way to gather mats everyday. It would pull me in to do my dailys
dont forget you can always chat in the #🐣│palia-newbies as well
I actually love this game, it sounds really unique compared to most other games. the upgrading system seems like something that is FUN to keep an eye on, like it keeps you busy
I probably wont be romancing anybody tho as I have my lovely nokti 🥹
also I love bullitin boards in games, gatering materials is my fav
nikki's combat stresses me out because I'm bad at it and the sorta spotlight mechanics often don't work at all, but at least half of it can be handled by spamming the weapon and the other half gives mercy eventually. I'd prefer palia not have anything like that
Also forgot #🐣│palia-newbies like the person above put, its another nice resource.
awesome!! everyone here has literally been so friendly, on all the channels lol we just tried to pick the most active one
Obvs, Palia needs Wuthering Waves combat
/jokes
Honestly, don't feel bad. It's a player made rule that was born out of courtesy, many new players are unaware and tbh, flow wood is very abundant now. Some people take it way too seriously sadly.
#💬│palia-general is typically the most active, to the point having a conversation is a struggle, but every channel has it's moments
No no, you got a point 
We need a massive combat overhaul and make is soulslike palia = Elden ring
Also, honestly, I just grind the medallions so I don't gotta deal with that noise. 
every single person I’ve ever seen or interacted with in-game has been super friendly and kind, it’s amazing
ngl i might download that game LOL
Oh yeah, feel free to add me on Palia. I play on console so chatting is a pain, but I check requests all the time. 
so many games we've tried to play have had the worst communities, thres usually so much toxicity its just annoying so this is defo a breathe of fresh air.
also greta to hear for me and @lunar cosmos
Yeah it's not a game rule, it's not written anywhere or translated in game, a chunk players can't or don't use chat so won't know that moment's interpretation of the "rule". just move on and ignore people if they're nasty about anything like that
Yep - I used to play Call of Duty online a lot and it’s why I don’t play games online at all anymore (besides this one lol)
Yeah it seems like a nice community ,
Is there farming in this game with crops n
The briar daisies noise is such a jumpscare for me
look in #🐣│palia-newbies theres a whole chart for what foods sell best vs whats the best focus food
I haven't gotten to download it yet tbh cause of storage but I will one day 
Yep! Though if you get tired of it you can take a break from it and go do whatever else lol.
the day you download it let me know ill do it too XD
Thankfully they weren’t too mad once I explained it was my first grove, they gave me the low down on how people handle those lol. But there is a lot of unspoken etiquette and stuff that you just learn by playing and interacting, it seems.
That's gonna be a while tbh lmao so if you want to try it, go for it 
Both of y'all lemme know. I have over 500 hours in Wuwa and can try to help. 
anytime I hear someone mention a mihoyo game it brings me back to 1.0 genshin days
I will let you know when the Wuwa overlords have a hold of my wallet
Also if you've been trying Star Rail, I'd love to hear your experience so far 
I remember those days. 
Yes! So far so good! I did pull Luocha and he's literally a lifesaver. 
Luocha, my husbando
(such a shame you joined after he was given away for free
)
Story of my life. 
At least you'll be in time for a reroll of one of the best characters himbos
Ooooo yes! Cause Wuwa has my wallet rn. 
I think it’d be cool if we had the ability to search for requests for a specific item in order to complete them, like if we have a lot of a resource and want to give it to other players instead of using or selling it
Hi everyone! New here- anyone else having issues logging in on Xbox? I’m getting an error and I believe the servers down but not seeing anything online
I’m on the Xbox currently without issues!
So strange! I’m getting the “cannot play while online play is disabled” error
Check your Xbox profile settings, it'll likely be a setting there that's stopping you
Is it a Palia error or an Xbox error? That’s really odd…
A palia error, I can play other online games like COD but not palia. I don’t have my account linked so I’m at a loss
Maybe check in #💻│tech-help and see if anyone can point you in the right direction there? Hope you get it fixed!
Thanks so much! You helped just by verifying it’s not all Xbox servers lol
This is a common issue. If it doesn't resolve by ensuring your online settings on Xbox are good, there's no other player side workarounds for this unfortunately.
You'll need to contact player support if it does not self resolve on its own or through a hard restart of the console.
Anytime! 
Thanks! Any idea how to contact them? The page through the Xbox “help” link doesn’t seem to be working 🫠
!support link below!
Here's a link to the Player Support: http://support.palia.com/
Thanks all!
Hello! I was just in a bean burger party and I was wondering how to get it??
I'll spoil this next part since it's spoilers: ||So I looked it up and it says that it's from a chest in a quest, and that quest is in a cave or something? From tamala (which I've barely interacted with.. lol) so I'm just wondering, how do I start said quest/when does it start?||
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Bean_Burger the 'how to obtain' section will detail everything you need, and, link to the other related quest!
(may need to hit expand for the table to pop open)
[S6] Lacie is asking for screenshots/videos or people setting off fireworks in the underground. #♿│accessibility-discussions message
Gang i need ideas for a homeless plot, i'm so tired of customize my house cause i have many ideas in my head (imma just use makeshift set fr)
(Linking this cause I'm terrible with decoration.
).
Thank you so much for reposting this here Kafitrar. I'm a little sad this isn't put in #🌟│sixer-tracker . It'll get lost in #🤝│game-help but also in the other channels especially #💬│palia-general since that was posted late at night (for me). I'm hoping that they'll take this into consideration because this is a huge health risk for players.
Honestly like, as happy as I am that they are looking into it, I'd wish they'd have a way of testing it themselves or just disabling the feature in the UG.
And yeah, it being posted late at night is for sure going to get lost. Though I don't know how to feel about it being sent in accessibility, considering well, how it affects many players.
yeah and I agree, but also if people are actively talking about it no matter with what proof or just in general it should still be a huge concern. This has been happening for a long time time now, and I can't imagine all of the people that can't play due to s6's neglect on handling the situation. Beta is no excuse and I'm tired of that mind set. They should still handle this with a lot of care.
I mean people have been sending reports in feedback and what not so to me that seems counter-active to be now sending in stuff when people already have??
I don't know...its very disheartening to say the least.
I can only 'hope' that the reason theyre asking for it now, si bc they literally can't disable it bc it would have to be done via an actual patch. But that aside, it does feel... off-putting, to ask your playerbase to 'playtest' those things (which can cause headaches/migraines, or worse: seizures) when that should be done on their side imo.
Plus, idk, we've been asking for a toggle for vfx and fireworks since closed beta. idk
Yep, exactly. This has been talked about and discussed multiple times, with screenshots and videos. It's simply the way fireworks work, set of multiple and that will happen.
And not to mention, the snowball issue. It makes me feel like it should of been more of a priority if it has been an issue for that long. I'm really not 100% sure, since I don't go to underground anyways... and right now, I can't play since the snow in kilima is way too bright for me and unplayable lol
Yeah I was about to say that too. To tell us to play-test it when it can cause seizures and other health related problems is a bit..strange. I would have preferred if they had tested it themselves, but then again it seems like every time we have a patch update or something new that lots of issues that are present could have been handled with a testing environment. It's been since alpha stress testing for me and I don't understand why they are still having this problem for 2 years or so now...it makes literally no sense.
I totally understand what y’all saying, but there are some issues that can’t be tested or won’t be an issue in a test environment. I’m not saying this is one of those instances, but I go insane when I have a feature working fine in the testing environment and then in production something isn’t working as intended. I’m not making excuses for the team, but there are so many things going on in development that it can unfortunately be overlooked. I would say submit feedback and follow up if/when you can. 
Tested or not, we have also been asking and requesting for a toggle and a wayt o disable fireworks already. Folks have already mentioned multiple times, how this can cause issues during and after cooking parties, even. I don't think it's to this extent, atleast, I don't recall it ever being this bad... but...
It isn't like... a surprise that there should be a way, at least, to disable fireworks as a whole.
Plus, again. This can literally give people seizures. There have been folks who have reported having seizures and having to go to the hospital because of the vfx in this game. I do understnad sometimes things might work intended in 1 spot, and then it might not when it's live, but 
This just leaves a bad taste in my mouth still.
Yeah honestly, this all leaves a terrible taste in my mouth too.
I understand but in this instance this has been going on for a long time now and people have submitted feedback/reports for awhile. This isn't anything new either.
Lacie at least saw one of them that was posted i naccessibility discussions. (it's also still up in this channel)
One is still remaining here, but Lacie had forwarded to the team apparently.
Manakit and Miss in Jortin posted some test videos in palgen
It feels a bit tone deaf if you're asking me too. I get them needing proof or whatever, but to ask people in the accessibility channel after people talking about how it affects them?
I'm not saying this was done in bad faith, perhaps Lacie simply wanted to let folks in that channel know it's being tracked. But it having also been posted late at night with no pin in six tracker, is gonna get lost.
What's the best things to grow for cooking parties? I'm noticing like blueberries, onion, tomatoes, fruit i think? What else?
Depends on the cooking parties you want to focus on I'd say.
For sashimi parties, grow rice. Cake parties, apples or blueberries if you plan on hosting.
Bean burgers/tofu, beans and wheat/rice. Just to name a few of the more popular ones.
Personally I mostly grow apples, beans, rice and cabbage with tomatoes.
Alrighty ^^
#🍳│cooking-foraging might have some more tips though! There's also #🌱│gardening for layouts and stuff
True true thank you
Just looked at a bunch of the media in gardening I'm going to have to see what I can do lol
If it helps, you can use the Palia Garden Planner online to help you visualise your plots and the bonuses too! It's pretty handy tbh
I did pin/publish the message.
I hope that helps!
Honestly, us having to play test it too also leaves a bad taste. Like, I don't know how many employees S6 has or who does what, but relying on the player base to do the work for them...especially when this has been talked about, feedback has been submitted, etc. (and I know someone is going to go "but it's in beta! They have to rely on their player base to test things for them!")
(Edit that no one's gonna see haha: I say this as someone who is an alpha and beta tester in games
).
Appreciated Anner!
hopefully Lacie is able to gather the feedback
Thank you for mentioning, Shamps! I collected and forwarded all their vids. They couldn't replicate the issue so it appears something else is happening!
I was seeing that a lot so yeah I might, thanks again what's the site called
I think it's just Palia Garden Planner, it should pop up on google as the first result.
As always, appreciate you, Anner 
I mean, this seems to be because it's likely multiple players doing it, and the combination with lures. Which is also why I think it'd be better that the devs play test it themselves.
To be fair...
(no one yell at me)... S6 asking for player-help to report an issue is not that uncommon in the game space. They could be testing it internally, but having more repeated instances of how/where players are able to do it is always going to be helpful. If you're suspectable to health-related triggers from flashes, obviously please do not put yourself through that.
Yeah, it's why I said earlier like... I get that and i can understand that. It did just feel kind off-putting, still, though all things considered and for other reasons mentioned above. 
Maybe it's because Lacie didn't specify that this testing should only be done by players that aren't suspectable to visual triggers, but I think she thought she was implying it. I'm not trying to dismiss the feedback, btw, it's just that asking players to test unintended glitches for mass feedback is real common.
I can even understand if they can't disable it currently, cuz they might need to do an actual patch. (And they have a schedule for that, unless something comes up and it gets delayed).
I think the main thing that felt offputting for some, is because it was in accessibility-discussions-- but as Palcat mentioned, it might of just been to show that they hear what we're saying and are tracking it? But yeah.
I just hope it get sfixed or just disabled (In the UG) as a whole and overall
I getcha, it being in the accessibility channel probably wasn't the best place to ask for player help, lol.
Yeah, testing stuff like that, def common! And I think other folks realize that. I just also worry for people who aren't photo sensitive because... I'm not sure if you've seen some screens, Anner, but... that could be eye-straining to (i'd imagine) almost anybody. It's very blinding and covers the entire screen
... Which ends up having me concerned for others too (and ofc, the team if they test it but yeah lol)
I'm hoping that with it being pinned and published, there's much more visibility for players who can safely test it.
And im realizing now, if youre testing it, that still forces other ppl you don't know in the server in the radius and stuff to that D: I just thought of that, oop
... It just overall worries me, esp after the whole snowball stuff
Yeah, I hope so too. So if ppl do see it, have managed to get a clip or something. (not something that theyr epurposely looking for, but happened to come across.)
I have, unfortunately, seen the screenshots/videos. And fair point!
In my ideal world, it'd be nice to set up a specific timeframe to test it and to warn others it's happening. So that photo sensitive folks can STAY CLEAR.
I hope they weren't too eye-straining or blinding for you 😭
Yeah, it'd be nice. Or have proper warnings. (I know i bring that up a lot but... it would be really nice here especially...) 🫠
I am not visually sensitive in that way, I am more of a motion sickness girlie.
So I was alright, but it do be bright.
Yeaaaah, or like y'all mentioned... photo sensitivty settings built into the game. That's been a request for a LONG, LONG TIME.
Definitely. Like... it's why I brought up earlier, we've asked for that and to turn off fireworks for ages now
... some of this could be avoided if that was added 
I just appreciate y'all pointing out the message so it could be pinned, lol. I defo would've missed it.
Yessim. It's why I modmailed about it too. Def important haha
I feel like it's something anybody/everybody could of missed 
I didn't wanna put you on blast for modmailing, but you did. You be putting in those tickets, you be doing work. 
put me on blast, i dont care /silly
in that instance, just thought it'd be better, in case some chats hapepned here like they usually do 
I feel like I made everyone disappear by appearing.
You can come back, I swear. The chats can continue, you can yell at me if you want.
You're good Anner, I just like, ran out of energy completely between the earlier discussion in accessibility and stuff
so it seemed like a good time to get a late breakfast 
It's always a good time to get a late breakfast.
Also, Lacie sent the same message she put in accessibility into genchat... and the mod team THOUGHT it got pinned because someone pin-reacted to it... but it...
it was a regular user that did the pin react. So nothing happened.
we do love those breakfasts, whether it's late or not 
Oop
.. I know this can also affect if things get pinned if a user does it before a mod can, too.
Same (even tho I just got here
).
Most of my breakfast are brunches anyways 
The mods were like, "I thought that message did get pinned in gen?" And I was searching through genchat, 'cause sometimes the bot does just have a moment and it doesn't work. But nah.
I'm about to disable the pin emote for people. /hj
Easy mistake, honestly. Especially if someone is just doing a quick glance and stuff
I probably would of thought the same, until I noticed it wasn't in sixer-tracker 
Happy timezone. 
has anyone else besides me and miss in jortin tested the whole fireworks and lures in the underground market?
I mean, considering it was posted late at night and not pinned, going to guess many people haven't had the chance to see it.
Or they physically cannot test it.
yea thats fair, honestly i feel like this is the more difficult glitches to easily replicate at least based off what we were attempting, not to mention we were literally being a nuisance setting off lures and fireworks, another reason for private servers
Another reason for them to simply disable it, tbh.
I tried, got the same results as you guys so didn't post it
From your videos and testing (and Miss') and Lacie's comment, it doesn't appear this is supposed to be able to be done, and your videos confirmed that fireworks go into the ceiling as is their intent. So what could be happening, is being done with glitches/something else (not going further with that part bc rules hehe).
I havent seen this ever happen in-game but has anyone tried shooting at one of the hotpot tables, since thats usually where people are somehow able to place lures?
thats what i was thinking, because how else can a normal player replicate it, the only other way it can be achieved is if you had such poor graphics that it would cause you to see them as flashbangs and even then, with my low settings, nothing happened
honestly thats why i was getting frustrated reviewing my recordings, nothing of interesting really beyond lures being able to be placed on the tables
It almost looks like they're ricocheting in the room from some of those prior ss, and your videos prove a few times that they don't ricochet and they do disappear into the ceiling, but do have some flashing in the ceiling associated with it. So I'm wondering if there's a 'secret spot' somewhere in the UG that is acting like a loophole from the intended behavior coding.
Yeah i had to rage quit lmao, but everything I tried just confirmed what lacie was saying about them going through the ceiling. I didn't actually place any lures tho so idk if that is the glitch
mines all on low, its probably why i couldnt see them, i will say i was looking up prior instances of this and saw someone get affected by it and they were on xbox, so idk if its also like a platform thing that only certain platforms get affected
it is possible to place lures on the tables, you just had to aim it at a certain spot, and it works for both the regular and pumpkin lure
Oh yeah that ik, I just didn't place any because the 2 PPL in ug with me were cool with me testing fireworks but not lures
thats also what we were theorizing it could be, though we couldnt really replicate it since it is just me and miss in jortin + it was so late at night and the fact that no one really heard about lacie's announcement
not to mention, at least scrolling up in the text channel, how many more people are willing to test this out
Honestly like, implying it might be a glitch or something else doesn't change a thing. It just puts in question how much testing is put into things, and if there are any procedures they have for these sort of issues.
It's just tiring honestly.
I'll help but we'll have to do a server takeover or atleast get permission from everyone in ug to test it
yea its kinda why i dont really want to test it any further, if private servers were a thing, i would go ahead and spam away, its the whole being a nuisance that im worried about, not to mention based off what others have done, its just the same thing of it is doing its intended thing and going up to the ceilings, so theres no point in going further and at that point, its s6 who has to go on their end and check if there is like some collision errors within the ceiling of the ug
Hi can anyone tell me how to complete the boards as a group?I need the unicorn fish still 😭😭
!trading
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Adding on to what youre saying/theorizing:: I could only skim through like... very little of the vids, for obv reasons, but i did see at least in MissinJortin's vid, specificallyt he kitsuu, that one was fairly bright, even from far away.
Potentially is a collection of, 1) The kitsuu one being esp bright (from what i could tell at a glance), 2) many going off at once, 3) being close to it/next to it.
So it could def be something that shooting at your feet and being next to it would cause it, esp if it's from just the Kitsuu one. Because of all the VFX that appears.
And, wanting to just say/point out in general:: Even if it's not that common, or only affects certain systems/graphics (which i dont think is the case personally), or etc...
Still needs to be prioritized, fixed... whether it's disabling the function to use these in the underground and/or a toggle to just turn off vfx (pls).
What?
You can ask if someone has the item to trade in the trading channel. (Unless if getting the item in trading doesn't count but that, idk
).
Such a shame we can't trade items 
You can’t trade fish…
Yeah, I dont really think those are suited in the channel (even tho it maeks sense in theory...). Not sure what the best place is though to ask for it.
In the sense of like, more ppl seeing it to help out
#💬│lfg-chat maybe?
, but either way, I hope you can get someone to help with getting the fish!
Yeah that makes sense too! 
I remember some communities I used to be part of would have a section for requests specifically, that'd be pretty helpful as well. Though for that the fish would've been needed to be caught before sadly.
I know there used to be a channel for that, but then it turned into the (old/archived) trading channel
Oooh that's interesting. More pieces of paliacord lore
/silly
I put in feedback to Palia but I'm wondering if others feel the same. Would it be a decorating placement mode QOL improvement to you if there was a toggle in that settings that allowed:
Instead of current behavior in placement mode: click on item, item jumps to where your cursor is (Makes it hard to fine tune the placement of an item)
Instead, item is clicked once and is outlined/'selected' where it is currently placed, and cursor jumps to where item is centered. Second click actually picks up the item so you can move it and inch it around from where it CURRENTLY is placed.
Cursor would jump to the center of the item so devs don't have to change "pickup" behavior (items, if you click their edge, are moved to where your cursor is because current pickup behavior means the 'center' of the item is where is the item is held and placed from.)
I wrote my suggestion to Palia much more professionally than this lmao, but I think this would be an improvement in my opinion. I'd at least love this as an accessibility toggle in the settings menu if they don't wish this behavior to be default. Having the item jump to where your cursor is is maddening to me, and I feel like it might help out folks with fine motor issues too for fine tuning placement.
This. This is what I urgently reported to staff cause it crashed both mine and two of my friends games and we lost items. The lag was unreal.
Context on a long time - increasing numbers of players have had their hands on Palia for increasing periods of time since pre alpha in July 2021 (4 years 6 months ago) and the game has been public since August 2023 (2 years 5 months ago), requests for safety settings are well over 2 years old at this point
It happend to me too, everyone just ended up hunting frogs instead of playing hot pot 😅
What servers are these all happening on 😭💔 the underground is always nice and quiet when I go
Does anyone else hate how when you want to put items in your storage it loses its tint?
I’m new to the game and I’m really curious about something. Which romanceable characters in the game are the most popular? Let me know which you think are the most popular and which character you like the best 💗
I’d say Reth and Hodari are the most popular. I personally romanced all the characters that are currently available and my favorite would be Subira or Jina
I was sure it would be Hassian and Reth. Hassian feels like the sort of person I’d expect everyone to go for, while Reth’s attraction is his cooking. Thanks for answering my question! I appreciate your input
If I don’t romance any of the characters would that affect the game?
The villagers will give you pins which you get an achievement for and can show on your profile, so other players know who you have romanced. Villagers will also have some dialogue if they see you’re wearing someone’s pin. Two of the villagers do you give a decor item as a gift which was mostly my motivation to romancing them in the first place and you’ll receive a portrait of the villagers as well once you max out your romance level with them and finish their last romance quest. It won’t negatively impact your gameplay in any way though if you choose not to romance anyone
Thank you!! <3
I think Hassian, Reth, and Hodari are the most popular ones.
Hassian is quite the romantic and sweetheart once he warms up to you
, Hodari is loved for his looks and darlin' lines
and Reth well he's Reth 
Hassian has been my favorite since the beginning.
Hodari was added as a romance option after players kept asking 
Reth was the first character I ever romanced (mainly because back when I first started playing Hodari wasn't even romanceable), but Hodari is my fave for those reasons above
Jel and Hassian are a close 3rd/4th for me. I will never forget the time my character was glitched into the basement under the tavern and all I can think about was that Reth drug her down there taking her hostage (in a good way no worries).
I personally went for Reth and Hassian tho!
What are good gifts for einar
Honestly same, this was my case too (with Reth)
He grew on me though and now I love soup boy.
Hassian is ironically my least favorite considering I love Shane from SDV.
pebbles, fish, and worms perhaps? There's usually a weekly gift that shows on the board in the middle of Kilima that shows them ^^b
not sure if its the right thread but why do elderwood rummage piles suddenly giving sandy paws present 
Its for the grow a snowman event
It's kind of nice, now that all my artifacts are done and I'm just throwing away the pieces.
yeah but i want artifacts even if im done with them already 
i collect them to trade to people that need them
So, um, hm. I got this nugget re: earned Lunar Path XP after having finished the current Path in a ticket response from Palia Support (see attached screenshot).
Regarding the Lunar Path XP, even though you’ve completed the current patch’s Path of the Kitsuu, the XP you earned is still saved and will carry over, so you won’t lose any progress for the next patch.
Do we have any confirmation from S6 directly that this is the case? Support likes to talk out their ear sometimes, but it would be very nice if this were true.
I'm guessing Lacie is still checking with the team (#💬│palia-general message), since we don't have anything about it in #🌟│sixer-tracker ?
kann es sein das manche Zucht Eigenschaften nicht kombinierbar sind ? wenn ja woher soll man das dann wissen wenn alles nur Zufall ist ,woher soll man wissen ob das nur Pech ist oder vom Entwickler absichtlich blockiert wurde oder ist das verbuggt . Also ich habe es jetzt 25 mal Versucht und es hat nicht geklappt das zwei Legendäre Eigenschaft zusammen kommen. Ich bin so frustriert und genervt
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Additionally, feel free to send in feedback if you'd like to see more clarification in-game!
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Does anyone have a posting or something that shows where the daily loot piles are? Are they the same for everyone?
The rummage and artifact spots are, indeed, in the same place for everyone.
They have a set number of spawn points, but there's no official place to look them up so most people use online resources like this website: https://palia.th.gl/rummage-pile
A Discord command that updates daily with rummage info would honestly be amazing tho 
I send feedback today on what id like to see happen soon:
- Different life in killima new animals to hunt like fox,squirls,rabbits or something since its starting to be no point in hunting in killima once u up abit
Killima new resources
Bahari bay- wild board,bears to give extra life to killima.and bahari bay
Different bugs and fishes
Maybe water island on killima to go to
New trees and rocks like new biom
I think game being out so long would be nice to see killima bloom with some new fresh things to make it important for those who have played game while already
Feedback:
I would love to see kilima animals moving over to bahari. And see more village animals like squirrels, fox and birds that we could hunt. Makes more sense 🥰
Is anyone else curious about the fountain plushies
can we already get this from zeki's lucky coin?
"the plush will be added as a potential reward in Zeki’s Machine as early as Patch 0.199"
The little tiny ones that float around at night?
Ive always wondered about those, yeah
They are so cute and pointless, I love little things like that lmao. Gives me more reason to keep demanding the next series of 'pods' to be called minis and instead of pods they are just tiny pod sized versions of normal plushies. I demand fountain plushies to own for my own!!!
I would so love to have those too tbh
But I just know if they ever released them they'd be behind monstrous RNG
If the pods actually gave these out, I'd like them a lot more
Sooooo even logging in and out and unstuck doesn't fix this lol
You can fix this using one of the following ways:
• Return to home plot using the map
• Use a hearth potion to teleport home
• Tour a friend’s plot from their profile and go home from there
This was home
Try using the third option
Only have 1 friend, and she thinks it's so funny my teen won't yo home lol
I can login really quick if you’d like to try that?
She's the one who made me post it 😭😭😭
has anything ever been said about palia coming to mobile? :,) i always feel like i want to play when im not home
No. So far just steam deck and switch for handhelds.
Official news will be shared...
https://palia.com/news and
#📢│palia-news
I don't know that mobile phones could handle playing Palia, the Switch can barely manage it
Even if some phones could, I'd rather they focused on stabilising the game for the current platforms tbh.
Need some accessibility updates and story content. 
(And it runs terribly on the switch, at least in my experience. Not sure about Switch 2 but Switch 1 is pretty bad).
Switch 2 runs better, but the graphics are really bad still so it turns me away from playing on that console unless I don’t have another option
I've heard it runs and looks decent on Steamdeck, but yeah, not matter what I'd still rather see them optimising the game and have accessibility and UI sliders before ever seeing it on phone.
I'd rather just have a hotpot mobile game tbh.
Essentially, you wont be able to apply any extra XP earned on the Path of the Kitsuu to a new path. I think that our support agent is trying to say that you wont lose any progress on the path of the Kitsuu in the next patch. But to clarify, you will not be able to apply extra XP earned to a different path.
Thanks so much for clarifying! I thought that sounded a little too good to be true lol
No problem!
I already expected it since most BPs systems already work that way but I can see how that CS reply would've been confusing 
This support agent in general seems to have only half-read what I sent in, so it makes sense that their reply was answering a question I wasn't asking lol
I'm sure they're absolutely swamped rn
Aren't they always? 
Yup. Exactly.
(Also hotpot mobile and/or a physical hotpot would be nice. Like they'd sell out in a few minute if there was a physical hotpot.
).
Can't imagine how much worse the flashs might be in a smaller screen as well
(If i only knew how to program mobile games, I'd make my own hotpot
)
The update seems like its gonna be disappointing then
my joy is immeasurable
Honestly, I'd shell out irl money so fast for a hotpot deck
It's a filler update, nothing uncommon 
Okey but this, this is good
Make it about the same size and price as uno and you've got an instant bestseller that could expand beyond the game and even attract new players
best update they ever made
Also I'm happy to have ferrets in my ranch, since there's no way I'm coughing up 16 USD for the actual pet 
Yeah but its also the first one of a new year. Would have been nice to have had something more. What about lunar new year etc
next month
LNY is usually end of Jan/beginning of Feb. Idk if they're gonna line it up with the actual LNY
I wonder how many new tints we will get
possibly means next month will be pretty small too since everyone will be doing the new year event >.<
This is just like, your common filler update after Winterlights and before LNY. I just hope they fix the pavings and most importantly the fireworks issue in UG in this next patch.
I just want some improvements to home lines so badly
Any is too many. Stupid tints >:( A small collection of plates and stuff gathering on a plot cos i cant put anything coloured away
stupid tints, stupid system stupid 😒
Yeah the tints going poof when you put them away is super dumb. 
its beyond ridiculous
But.. I like the system
(joking obviously, I also find the tints being removed without any refund pretty dumb, aside that, I like it)
can i mention how uncomfy it is that the new plush (the sprout one or whatever) has no face or eyes? (which then made the defined butt kinda random and odd to me)
It freaks me out. 
No eyes, all booty. 
i just dont like he doesnt have a face
It reminds me of something but I can't quite put my finger on it 
Why would he need a face, he will be booty facing at all times
im soso glad they went with the cute style for the mantis and not the realistic style they went for with the frog plushies
I at least like they don't look like the butterfly plushies, though I know I won't be going out ot my way to look for this one
the mantis is cute but also, their eyes do not match eachother at all and it makes me laugh
Whats wrong with the butterfly ones? I dont particularly care for em but im not really into the plushies in general even tho it seems like i am =_=
oh i just noticed they are off in different directions ahahaa thats so cute
Spoilering bc: 1) maybe somoene wants to be surprised but also 2) i know some ppl dont like seeing bugs too much!
i can't properly do an arrow to show the other eyeball, but hopefully you see what i see with this lmao
So is the path of the kitsuu going away completely? Or will we have the option to continue working on the path or choosing the new path?
they hold easter egg
legit in love with the wonky eyes
It's not going away, iirc you'll have the option to choose.
All lunar Paths are permanent. You will be able to swap between paths as you wish.
I don’t think the paths ever expire
why did u do this to me... why could u not live in my fantasy... i will never be able to unsee it
gives me an excuse to showcase my idea how the butterfly plushes coulda looked instead.
(inspired by the plushes from Squishables)
omfg i love it :O
Eh, just not a fan of the design, how it sits on it's thorax and stuff, and also just how they simply recoloured the duskwing one.
Oriis designs are soo pretty though.
I also don't care much for the plushes, though I do like the frog ones a bit, admiteddly. I'm happy with the 2 sernuk plushes I got and some other ones gifted by friends.
Im guessing u drew that? :D SO so pretty, i like ur art style
Thank you! 
the butterflies are at least better than whatever the floatfish plushies are
was hoping for ones we can hang on our ceilings, maybe even with a lightsource but instead we got a wet bag looking plushie 
Why's it look like Finn from adventure time lmao.
There's a few I like, but some just do miss the mark for me, personally. Sernuks are nice-- I dont hate how they look and they fit in chairs and in certains spaces properly. And I like most of the bug ones, because ✨ Fixation ✨ (although the butterflies are the exception)
The frogs are good too
duuuude being able to hang them up would of been SUCH a good idea :O
Oh yeah, I forgot about those 
Nobody forget that the minnow has lips >:(
I wanted interactive items or animated ones instead of over simplistic plushies every single patch 
Yes, the sernuks are cute! The chapaa and majii ones as well, and there's a small kitten one from the claw machine iirc, that I like too. Aside from that, the RNG aspect to them just really puts me away from collecting them.
Oh and the Flutterfox ones are cute too.
Even when I like the big plushes bc of their design, I get so pained when I see their hitbox just isnt quite right for what I always want to do with them 
Awwwhhhh a squishy duskie would have been so cute
They just dont have the people to make mass amounts of content I think, its plushies or nothing so at least there is something for people to hunt for :( (I say as a non plushie lover, not defending them lmao)
Yeaaah those are permanently on my chests because they're just... too big
Also, cute that the Ferris is becoming a ranching animal, but part of me thinks they should of gotten rid of the backpack in that case imo 
#💬│palia-discussions message we need to start a club for making mockups of what we want 😂
they need it to carry all the stolen goods from kilima to deliver them to us 
(rly hope it will drop apples bcs of its emote, would be cute)
I'm so over plushies since I predicted the cylinder would become one to minimize the bad reviews on the game when we had that bug
I'm happy they're going to be ranching animals, though I find it funny they decided to use an already existing premium pet
Not complaining though, they might as well give us plumehounds and palcats as ranching animals
I prefer if the produce comes out of their backback, rather than what it looks like when you get fish.
Although, the more I think about it, there's other variations that ppl can buy of the ranching animals, right? Not just the rancher's license? Because i was kinda like "wait, seems odd for a ranching license if ppl already bought one of those" .. but just realized that. lol
I supposeeee /silly
Yep, that's what I thought of as well. Though if I had purchased the original one before, I'd still be a little bit iffed.
I was never super into them but they are just this games version off collectable, I just wish they wouldnt recolour them, it will get like WoW mounts where there is 7000 and most are recolours that suck
im kinda weirded out they didnt take thier backpacks off :S
Too much effort /j
why not add the backpack as a random cosmetic chance, would still be weird they are just born with a backpack on but at least it would be less frequent
sure the magic teleporting deer is fine but apparently i draw my line of disbelief at a ferret in a backpack
Hahaha this cracked me up, "born with the backpack" hahaha.
That's hilarious to consider it's just their anatomy
Now im imagining them as babies with little backpacks on and I'm squealing
I unfortunately went the creepy pasta route. Cause ferrets are born kinda hairless and imagined them as babies with flesh back packs Dx. Im gonna have nightmares
I accept this as cannon
But once they get fur, that backpack colour really comes in, I promise
This means the armored ferris was born with its armor
Cause he has no backpack
I hope for his trick, he pulls out a tiny javelin
I can see it! Color can be determined by type of ferret. The armor ferret that coukd be a mutation of the keratin in its fur
Or maybe this ferris got an iron rich diet!!
Armored Ferris versus Starfang Drake in an epic battle to save Princess Reth!!
Oooo yes!!! Diet does play a factor in species so maybe because of its preference for iron rich foods the body processed the excess iron as a form of a secondary armor skin
Do i take a break from con prep to make the armored ferris a biological sheet? I need its stats, diet, habitat , everything!!
Just popping in, anything new
Ferris pet is now a ranching animal, more snow covered deco, new turnip plush with a butt, tha'ts it.

A plush that's all butt and no eyes. 
Oh and well, more premium outfits as expected.
.

No thoughts, no brain. Just 
Much excitement, so yay
"What the hell is even that" <- me at the sprout plush
For the plushies i wish they would have taken the color scheme from the ores for all Kitsuu..
The kilima one looks like it has Copper/Silver colors
The Bahari one looks a bit like Iron but the Gold is like bronze.
And the Elderwood one is just ugly rainbow.. would be so cool to have had Pal/Plat colors
You did miss the whole discussion about the fireworks and the replicability of them that happened yesterday. Certainly was one of those days 
I briefly scrolled through them and was flabbergasted
Here's hoping something is done soon tm.
It honestly gave me a headache, I just gave up at one point and went to gamble play on Nikki 
I am Unhappy about the new 5* but I dont wanna get off topic bonked
(mostly the dyeability and the hair)
Lmao. Same (on WuWa
)
But Orii, the snowman is about to hit the 3 million goalpost! (joking obviously, I'm just annnoyed at the whole situation)
but yeah does this game not like. have an extensive enough QA team. why was the accessibility channel, the one with the people suffering from it, being asked to test this 😭
Why was it not pinned to begin with until we asked but the post about the snowman was immediately pinned. (i know why but it was still
)
Like I said yesterday, I'd like to think Lacie did it as a way of saying "we're tracking this" but yeah copy-pasting the message was not... great.
I saw Lacie ask in #💬│palia-general for people to share in #🤝│game-help if they had any videos or photos about it, so it wasn't just asked in accessibility
We know that. It still doesn't make it any less baffling tbh.
Yes, which we mentioned yesterday and even was like, "maybe to at least showcase that it was being tracked", which is fair, but the way it was asked+copy pasted still rubbed a lot of folks the wrong way.
It was just not a great choice tbh. Like I said, it could've been her saying "we're aware of this and asking people for proof" but she could've linked the message instead or forwarded it. It being so late at night didn't really help either.
Not implying she did it in bad faith, just to disclose that. Just one of those things that could've been handled better, specially considering the nature of the issue.
to me it makes sense to ask in accessibility despite the obvious issues with photosensitivity, because alot of folks wont bother to report or mention something that doesn't directly affect them, so you'd end up going to the people it does affect the most because chances are likely they've already been discussing it or have reported it prior
But yes, it couldve been worded better
I need to gather my thoughts here cause 
That's something I've been wondering as well.
I get the whole oh it's a small team and the games in beta (dragon help me when people use the it's in beta excuse). Sure, I alpha and beta test games, like Coral Island has a beta run before they do a big update. People post bug and crash reports all the time to help the team out cause it's also a small team.
But something like this with the underground? Where malicious players can make someone have a seizure and so on and so forth? Like someone's gonna get hurt if they haven't been already.
(Aight, I have a lot more to say but I'ma stop before I get bonked or something for not being cozy
)
I mean, it felt like it was implied they were asking the playerbase to test it. Which, again, yesterday, we acknowledged & know that's common. That's fine.
But it just felt a bit odd to ask for it in the place where folks have expressed having triggers for photosensitivity. Yes, duh, obviously they aren't literally asking folks with that to do it. But it still felt like an odd place to do it. Which is why we're talking about the wording (Which yes, i know youre saying it couldve worded better)
I just think if it was phrased a bit like... "Hey! I'm not asking for any of you all to test this yourself, but if you happen to already have screenshots, videos or anything about this occuring, can you please send in game-help and ping me? And just know that we're aware this is going on and we're tracking it the best way can right now."
And want to say, again: We know it wasn't done in bad faith or even thinking that! It was just something that felt a bit odd and offputting to see there is all. 
I can partly get what you're saying. Many people with photosensitivity issues (and even those who don't necessarily) had been reporting this, with screenshots, or mentioning it. There's also a post on reddit where someone recorded it happening and many people sharing about it too.
It's just like how we were saying, it felt a bit odd to ask the people who are affected by it, to test it. It could've just been worded to say "please let us know your experiences with this, we've also asked players to send proof/recreate what's happening (insert link to post here). But with just copying the same message, it's like asking to people with food allergies to test eating a product that would trigger an allergic reaction.
And I think there's value in pointing these situations out for learning. It's not to bring people down, because as we're saying, we doubt it was done in bad faith, just slightly overlooked.
The playerbase testing it also just concerns me overall. I mean, I know y'all were asking ppl in UG (I think? from what i understood) that you guys were going to test it and stuff, but...
I worry about ppl trying to test it when ppl are tehre, and might be unaware. Or have chat off. And if it does happen and stuff, I wouldn't want random bystanders to suddenly get flashed with it all. :(
Idk i just have concerns for folks
I just hope it gets fixed & resolved.
Yeah, that too. It's already a big issue, exposing more people to it doesn't feel great. I tried hopping UG servers trying to find an empty one to test it or to stumble across a server with the fireworks happening to record it. I did hear them going off in one, but I couldn't see them or the people doing it.
And like Zenthania and other people mentioned before, it's why other games have stress testing or QA in house, to test these issues.
Yeah that was my biggest concern. like. people aren't consenting to have their eyeballs used as guinea pigs 😭
Yes, asking players to intentionally replicate an action which has been reported to cause seizures and other issues in some players feels like intentionally making the game less safe in the name of testing. That was rubbing me the wrong way while I lurked in here and accessibility channel yesterday.
We're not in alpha testing anymore, the game is open to all, there's no more rollbacks or resets on progress, we are effectively no longer playtesters and are simply players. Why can't these things be managed in house, in safe test spaces, away from the player base? I understand asking to report if we are aware of how it is done etc but asking players to replicate it feels really rough and unsafe.
It's beta. Which is still a testing stage.
Ugh, of course we're still getting the beta excuse 
Not saying that's a good reason to have these issues. But that's their justification
This.
And maybe it's just me
but when I mentioned yesterday about over reliance on players testing things for them, I know that small teams have to do that to a certain extent. Like I said in my last message, Coral Island is a small team that I've done beta testing for.
And maybe it was just the wording but it came off to me like the team wants y'all to test it and give us the information before they do something about it.
Nope. Nope. Nope. I'm gonna go meditate instead of getting into the whole it's still in beta argument.
There are zero excuses. Zero. 
It's not the first time it's happened either, there was the issue with the snowballs, Walter (white screen) and also no word on the other random flashes that have been present and documented in the game.
As much as you are right in the sense of, yes, it's a testing stage. But when it comes to things that are giving people literal seizures, that should not even be happening or something the playerbase has to test and figure out. That is literally putting people's health at risk.
Now, if we compare it in regards to... the sernuk still getting stuck in walls, floors, air... sure, that's a bit more expected. (Altho, debateable, since this has been an issue since closed beta, but.. ya know).
Theyr'e just 2 different things.
We're signing up as players not as playtesters anymore. I was an alpha tester. There's a huge difference between that and what we've been in the last few years here. And the "its beta" discussion is just so old and tired I can't argue this anymore I'm exhausted by it.
And some people also do not realize it's in beta, since it's not marked or advertised properly on various platforms. So some people genuinely do not know.
It shouldn't matter when it's putting people's health at risk. That's all.
Fr. I'm literally just at the point of blocking the people going "but it's in beta!"
There are zero excuses for any of this. (Oop, I'm not being cozy! Bonk!) 
Just watched the trailer. Ability to carry plushes maybe? Thats a useless but still interesting add.
And if we follow the same principle of "early access" (from steam) and "beta", since they are sometimes used interchangeably...
In my experience when I play Early Access games on steam, yes, they might have gamebreaking bugs (which are usually fixed, depending on the team. some teams arent... the best
), or working more with adding story, and developing that. If there ever was one that gave people actual health risks like this-- they usually get fixed rather promptly.
So at this point, yeah, I'd expect more that the story is being developed here, maybe some bugs still and issues (either way, it's a game, so it's expected)... but I wouldn't expect health risks to last for so long.
And I want to say again: Yes, I know that it's common for things to maybe not get tested immediately until it goes live. And it's possible they have to follow a patch schedule, so I get it. But, the risk of this could of been reduced if they at least added a VFX toggle which we have been asking for since at least closed beta.
Still no lettuce 
Right, and if when making an account we were told " hey this game is in beta testing, and while we won't be resetting or rolling back any progress, we ask you help test things and report bugs etc while you play. Here's how to do that." Then I'd look at this conversation and the request differently.
I agree with you. Which is why I said it's not an excuse. Some things should be prioritized. But we don't control that.
No lettuce and potentially a starstone-gathering board. They really dont like me.
We have the kitsuu plushies to thank for that 
Right. I know it has the tiny "beta" words for the standalone launcher, and I think steam? (so maybe epic as well, but who knows. idk anybody who plays it on there. i mean, it still labels the game as MMO.)
But I know for a fact switch doesnt at the very least lol
i feel like if it was going to be a reskin why did it take so long to be made? Thats the part that baffles me
Definitely not the intention - a large portion of the discussion of the issue was happening in the accessibility channel, and I did also post in Palia gen first. It has been requested multiple times to share in multiple channels because it gets lost in the general channel, thus I shared it there as well. It was late at night and I didn't want things to get lost. That's also why it was requested to post anything in #🤝│game-help .
Please never do anything that you are uncomfortable with! That includes testing things that may effect you. It was crossposted in that channel simply for visibility and due to the discussions of the issue being heavily discussed in it.
The goal is to fix the issue so that nobody has to deal with it. It is most certainly not intended behavior.
Yeah, we never thought it was done with bad intentions, it was just a bit odd to post the request there, like we were mentioning perhaps just saying "we've asked players to send proof of this, we've forwarded the comments made here about it", would've been a bit less confusing.
It's why I'm glad it got pinned by mods in the sixer-tracker channel, so it could get some more visibility there.
It's also why I had asked yesterday if there was a chance the fireworks and lures could be disabled altogether in the UG, but I think it got lost in the conversation.
Just wanting to make sure to reiterate and mention: We never thought it was done with bad intentions, or anything like that. Or that you were literally asking people who could have seizures to actually test that when saying it anywhere.
We were just saying how it came across as odd and offputting in a way, due to how it was worded & crossposted there. Again, we know and recognize that it was most likely you wanting to showcase y'all were aware, tracking it, etc.
I think when it comes to big issues like the snowball and now ug firework chaos i think its best to just push a notification to the whole discord via news or something. Also push it towards x (twitter) as well. It would help get more eyes on it too.
And yes, like Palcat said, it would be great if there was a chance or a way to have fireworks and lures be disabled altogether in the UG.
that's definitely just for the promotional shot, especially bcs the plush is just floating infront of the playermodel
But also I'm going to reiterate it doesn't feel great players are being asked to replicate a harmful action that can make the game unsafe for some players especially when there is no system in place to warn players in game of the problem or that testing is happening.
Specially because now some people are pushing that it's a glitch/hack, it's muddying the waters more.
Huh, so is patch going to be a few hours later than the usual 7am pt start time? Or are a few hours getting cut from the event thats set to end at 10am?
Grow-A-Snowman begins at December 9 at 10:00 a.m. PT and ends on January 13 at 10:00 a.m. PT.
Such a small thing, but thought they would have quadruple checked that they wouldn't overlap with the patch especially after the hiccups in this and previous events.
They're weird marsupials.
Nah, they'd totally release it looking like that.
Will path of kitsuu pass leave since with the new update a new one comes?
all paths are permanent
All lunar paths are permanent. You’ll be able to switch between them so you can decide which one you’d like to work on progressing
Got it thanks @lyric night @jolly marsh
Honestly I don't mind if they do 
So long as Hodari doesnt want a starred ruby next week....
last patch: don't grind mining for kistuu plushies
this patch: grind mining for star stones to bond as a community
I've always tried to keep 10 of each unstarred, JUST in case S6 pulled a silly
I think they wont do it cause the negativ feedback from the one quest where you needed a normal one was to hard. Amethyst is the highest you need maybe one in star but no ruby any more.
or they could just adjust the drop rates to what they were when Starstones released....
I'm ready 
But then we wouldn't have a cheeky reference to the great ruby heist! /j
You get all from the last Rubine Bug, i think?
perchance
(not really, a stack of those where ones I already had in storage accumulating because I don't sell starred stones)
But it needs so much space
Trust me, I definitely don't hope for them to do this.
Bringing back the drop rates would do wonders for my decorative heart. I need so many more starred saphires
I like hoarding 
fingers crossed that support has the right info on this.
This was Lacie's reply. #💬│palia-discussions message
thank you! missed that with how chatty it was today with the teaser
I remember the exodus after the starstone nerf 
Here's a nice alternative to cake parties for money! JK WE DONT WANT YALL MINING. hard nerfs every aspect
They only decrease drop rates but never increase them.
introduces a rare drop to mining Don't go grinding for it! purchase our battlepass instead
I really wish they would give buff food to other things as fishing like mining,gathering,hunting,bug cathing or maybe plushie farming. Cause the zahni potion is not great i used it and i got none zahni i feel kinde scamed by einar😭
May I suggest someone create a knickknack furniture set we can buy from a NPC. Like more interior items for book shelves or tables. I need more things to fill my houses with!
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I’m not sure where to chat about this but here goes:
What is the best way to make money quickly? I’ve tried so many things but I have no idea if what im doing is the best way. Interested to hear others’ thoughts and methods.
Cooking parties especially ones with epic or legendary fish as an ingredient are the fastest way to make gold. If you’re more of a solo player though, gardening is a good passive income with preserve jars
I wish we could open the doors on hour plot and not automatically 😅
ive got 2-3 methods i use personally:
farming crops and animals (the produce goes into preserves jars and glow worm bins, since low-value stuff gets you more money with glow worms than regular worms)
and cooking parties (which either gets used as focus food or goes into regular worm bins, since higher-value stuff gets you more money that way)
so for me, instead of making absolute bank all at once after a cooking party, i make a decent amount of money over time via worm bins, mostly
you could also just absolutely sell the food you get tho, but the worm bins give you a bit of extra money (and useful resources) comparatively, and the jars give you quite a bit more money than just selling your crops
Two hours copper mining paid off.
Oooo congrats! 
The devs clearly underestimated the player' wilfulness to get plushes 
yo will raspberry bugs come out for lures if they're placed near the barn ??
what do i need to solve the riddle in the ruins
Yes, I find I have better luck on the side of the barn closer to the mountains, but I have seen them on the other side, and closer to Auri's treehouse (though that one not as often as the sides of the barn)
Thank you so much !!!
Good luck! And while you might not lure any this time, you might get multiple another time... It's all random.
is doing the 4th bulletin bundle optional? will i on get the rewards for the fourth if i do it or will it give it to me if i do the outro before that?
if u don't care for the 100 Luna xp and 25(?) Kilima coins then u won't need to do it yeah
they reworked how we get the patch exclusive rewards from the bulletin board with the newly added reward track which also progresses by doing dailies and weeklies
(+ if u have to outro quest u got the rewards already, stringlight recipes, outro quest is just narrative and has a regular pie as its reward)
with lunar paths in future when there's more of them, will it be a case of "pick your path, complete it, pick a new path" or will it be complete the paths sequentially in the order they were released? since they've said explicitly that there are no expiration dates, I assume that means once the next path is released, we can keep going with the kitsuu path till we've finished it
The way they've described it so far, it's pick whichever path you'd like to earn XP on. You can work on any path at any time, as no path will expire. So if you still have a few things on Kitsuu Path to get, you can finish that and start Cardigan Path whenever you'd like.
I don’t know if anybody is going to or has already suggested this, but I took some pictures. It would be really great if we could get some of this already in game content as decorations or plant bowls for our plots
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The problem with this is that you cannot attach pictures to the feedback I think
Yeah, they'd have to describe it or put the coordinates it's at (or a link to a video) sadly (or maybe unfortunately is a better word? My brain is soup
).
Well that was an interesting loop of 7 disconnects, after picking "move" when prompted.
Are the server merges live now? 
Huh, I would've though they'd hold on until the next patch went live.
yeah Lacie posted about it in the status channel
would not be surprised if they will turn it off and on again a few times in the coming weeks and monitor is over night until they get the finetuning where it needs to be 
or its just acting up bcs most servers have been running since the last patch
Yeah I was taking a break from the server cause last 2 days have been... something. I only saw people mentioning they were going to bring them back, didn't see the news announcement.
It's why it surprised me they didn't just wait until the next patch cause it seems things are still the same as last time 
Or maybe it's just cause it's late at night or something. Who knows 
i get wanting to test out their fixes separate from the patch, reduces variables and patch day chaos
I mean, in a sense yeah, I can get that too. But I feel like, in this particular instance, it's a very ... questionable timing and not great. Considering the fireworks with the UG & the playerbase attempting to test it, etc.
It makes it harder and more difficult to find an empty server.
Yeah, while I can still see it from that point of view, it's still not great considering the timing of everything. It's why I said I personally was surprised, and still is my opinion tbh, considering how poorly it went the first time. Just odd timing.
Honestly yeah, it's a good time to take a break.
(Play more HSR I mean wut). 
I honestly having been on in like... a month?
But yes, I definitely should (I was on Nikki earlier on)
Oh no! (That reminds me I still need to try out Nikki, lmao).
(Doooo it
gamba responsibly ofc though
)
I did sadly it doesn’t let me post pics in feedback
(oh for sure, Wuwa already has my wallet I can't afford another Gacha game.
).
I highly dislike that they have butts
Also, how dare give us a sprout plush but no farming updates. Better be some lettuce coming our way.
I don't get it, no one has really asked for another species of animal but everyone has asked for the animal limit to be raised past 30.... Dumb decision imo
likely craftable just like the log furniture
terraces are probably bought i imagine, everything else maybe craftable???
"❄️ Complete the Snowy Skitterer Bundle for chilling new decor!" Or it could be rewarded from completing the bulletin board, or from opening the chests at the top of the board that were added with decembers update
Same. I also agree with you as well as the ferris being a weird animal to put in ranching (especially with their backpacks still on?). I feel like this was a rushed decision than a planned one to use pets that are already in the shop, but in this case it doesn't fit well imo. The drakonic knight, while cool, also doesn't fit into Palia. Feels more like WoW to me, but that's just my personal opinion though.
Also not so sure I like the 'Path of the Cardigan'...sounds bizarre to me
was everyone suppose to have received the flutter foxes?
Only those who have sent mystery gifts to other players during 12 nights of winterlight
okay thank you. i was wondering why i did and my husband didn't. he is a grinch
I feel like you guys are a lil too quick to decide that they’re not going to add extra ranching spots (we don’t know that)… The backpack is so the Ferris can carry things!
I also like that they’re adding a variety of things instead of just what is expected to be added to a game like this (and dragon knight doesn’t feel far off from the story) but that’s just me personally
People are allowed to express their opinions though, and just based on how long it took for them to add extra storage, I get why people are skeptical.
It's also why it'd be neat if they'd release patch notes before, but guess we'll have to wait and see.
I'm happy the ferris is now a ranching animal since I was never going to spend so much to get the pet, but I agree that it being added is a bit funny considering it was a premium pet first.
Agreed, Path of the Cardigan sounds like a Ralph Lauren campaign 
That's literally the name of the path? Or is that a joke?
Yup, I wish we were joking.
No shot bro WUT? 💀
I've been here since the last stress test in alpha so I'm allowed to express my opinion here and be a bit skeptical. Nothing wrong with that 
that's the name
Path of the kitsuu was kitsuu themed
Path of the Cardigan is… well, cardigan themed 
now we wait until we get Path of the Kenli or something like that lol
Path of Lettuce when 
Makes me wonder what the free rewards are going to be, my bet is on a low effort cardigan recolor
I want a hat 
(still think a little sprout would be cute and fit with the sprout plush)
I'm not a real fan of cardigans so I may pass on this one, but yeah I agree. A nice little sprout hat or something cute would be nice
Imagine we get one of those bean sprout crochet hats 
can't wait for it to be a shirt with a png of a playermodel wearing the premium cardigan outfit 
that would be so damn cute and would maybe even fit with the "theme" of the path
but it will be something disappointing in the end anyways
Honestly I was really hoping they'd continue with the onesie line and have like sernuk, muujin, etc. I would buy that 
Or just the theme like the kitsuu but with the different animals in Palia
Or a png of the sprout plush that's cropped from the trailer 
honestly i can see them releasing lettuce seeds like that lmao
i think the ferris is a cute animal, but rn the amount of species to animal limit does NOT compute, like in gardening everything can have 4 effects (harvest, quality, water, weeds) plants largely only take 24 active hours to grow or less. you also dont have traits in gardening. ik many people whove just stopped ranching because they just dont have space to breed anymore to pass down traits so theyve become disillusioned with it.
like maybe let venerated animals breed or dont count baby's or venerated animals ik a breeding game i played as a kid had this building you could buy where you could store animals in stasis and you unlocked more slots by paying ingame currency. or just make it so venerated animals dont count to the limit
Agreed. There's not much to do with venerated animals or never grow babies so it does hinder with how many you can have/breed in ranching. I've been debating starting over every time I go to the barn because it just feels very dull atm with doing the same routine over and over again plus the limitations as well. It's good that we have more choice in what animals to have/breed, but at the same time with the 30 animal limit there is only so many you can have especially if you are selectively breeding for specific traits (both cosmetic and otherwise).
The ferris is cute, but I just feel like with it being a premium pet that we already have...feels like an odd thing to include in ranching.
another factor is someone like me, i had 1 of every ormuu and peki coat but had to get rid of some before i could breed them down so i could have a new gen, so now i dont have 2 of the peki coats and 1 ormuu coat. and now i'll have to do that again so i'll loose even more
and i had to use a stupid amount of reroll and cosmetic cookies to even get close to having nearly all coats again
Same. I also have lots of cookies/treats that I don't use either that's just collecting dust in my storage atm. Mostly I use cosmetic cookies but we only get those via medals so I can't always use them on the animals that I want (and there's a bug where if you use it after they have 3 cosmetic traits it still lets you use them) so I end up accidentally wasting them :'3
Yeah when my animals became venerated I lost desire to continue, didn't want to start all over again and we don't have a guaranteed way to get the Divine Doughnut that isn't swiping your card