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lament trail
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Myria

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Ilv

young bone
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Keep those moments burned in. ✨

small coral
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Which Ben and Jerry's is the more important question

sonic dagger
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cookies n cream

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for sure

lament trail
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Chocolate fudge vanilla cookie dough

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Yea good guess lmao

young bone
sonic dagger
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we have these in au

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so good

lament trail
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Man

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Maxibon

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Cookies and cream

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Fucking goat

lament trail
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Life is just the rat race

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Board the train to the city

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Go to work

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Come home

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Another day gotta keep things in perspective

sonic dagger
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gotta retire in revdis

mighty anvil
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Hi GM! I can't evolve the iluvials even if they are of the same level, it doesn't let me hit the fuse button, is there a trick? Or reach some minimum level or something?

sharp junco
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šŸ˜‚ Lol Illuvium Price is Collapsing. What A Scamm. Below $100. You guys are finish i think

narrow vigilBOT
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fading sentinel
sharp junco
jaunty adder
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Anyone knows about am advance tutorial?

fading sentinel
pearl crest
sharp junco
fringe girder
covert violet
maiden sinew
# sharp junco I understand Mate, but look at whats happening to the Price.

The lower ILV goes before the launch of OB the better (preferably without breaking key structure).
You should be paying more attention to the fundamentals, not the price.
I've never been more bullish on ILV than I am right now.
There's one hell of an opportunity brewing, you choose to take advantage of it or not, that's your prerogative.
NFA but retracements are for buying.

charred lodge
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Just joined, what is the difference between Alpha and a mega disk? Should I start with disks or go straight for land

tender kraken
crimson matrix
charred lodge
crimson matrix
charred lodge
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Ok thanks for the info, much appreciated

novel oak
sonic dagger
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$10k into token and stake for 12 months

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nfa

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why would u wait until revdis starts? ok maybe SLP, still got decent apr

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then swap to ILV

grand narwhal
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Gm

charred lodge
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Ok, that's possible. I have long term commitments.

sonic dagger
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SLP is ending mid year i think

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i swapped all of mine to ILV tho

charred lodge
charred lodge
# sonic dagger i swapped all of mine to ILV tho

Most likely will focus on that and a quick land acquisition. I'm whaling in another project and trying to capitalize on other great projects as a good amount are being pushed this year. Just trying to catch the boom!

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Tried the arena and like the approach, so I'll dive in a bit here.

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Thanks for your time guys

sonic dagger
novel oak
charred lodge
sonic dagger
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?token

narrow vigilBOT
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Token Address

ILV: 0x767fe9edc9e0df98e07454847909b5e959d7ca0e
ETH/ILV SLP: 0x6a091a3406e0073c3cd6340122143009adac0eda
sILV2: 0x7E77dCb127F99ECe88230a64Db8d595F31F1b068

sonic dagger
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hmm

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theres a infograph somewhere

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?revdis

narrow vigilBOT
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Illuvium Revenue Distribution

ICCP-3 Revenue Distribution Decisions aimed to ensure sustainable revenue distribution for the long-term operation of the DAO, and to provide clear expectations for $ILV stakers. Future product proposals should adhere to the relevant distribution definitions.

Summary:
For products with negligible variable costs, 100% of revenue will be distributed.
For products with non-negligible variable costs, 100% of revenue minus variable costs will be distributed.

For more detailed information, please read the full ICCP: https://gov.illuvium.io/#/proposal/0x245e440c3b517a0b7a7ff11c2c038cfd96c503ab9cbf3e593bd8d7c73cd07fae

sonic dagger
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ill be interent rich but homeless

novel oak
sonic dagger
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nty

novel oak
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And you call yourself a degen?

proper pulsar
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ILV will be splited to a smaller unit?

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like 100:1 or 10:1?

red geyser
obtuse panther
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What's happening in governance @sonic dagger

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When token pump you were promoting? Why did ilv take away the community event rewards for tournament?

sonic dagger
obtuse panther
sonic dagger
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ive discussed it with him, but idk much about tourney

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not sure if its nda or not

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not sure what u mean by taken away tho

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afaik its been self funded plus some collab

obtuse panther
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Just wondering if you knew more than me

sonic dagger
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ive talked to the hosts

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but ill bring it up in this meeting to see what i can share/not

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fyi ive been pushing it to team aswell

uncut whale
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just chill\

quartz warren
worn plover
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What is a good amount of ILV to have?

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LOL

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broad question

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just curious what each of you think

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I personally think it is nice to have 100 ILV

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but that is a lot to ask

rigid escarp
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nobody can answer that haha.
Its what u see in the fundementals, and what amount of risk u attach to the project.

worn plover
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I am just asking personally speaking

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yourself

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not what you have

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I feel like it is nice to have 100,000 USD in valuation

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in the future

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for a game like this

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so for me if 1 ILV goes to $1,000 it would be nice

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ILV Fully diluted Valuation now is 900 million

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I guess if it is top game in Crypto now is worth around 2.5 billion

rigid escarp
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yep for sure.
started small when token was pricey, kept adding the entire bear market so ended up with de decent chunk

worn plover
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I guess if Illuvium is one of the top games it could be worth about $200 to $250 right now

novel oak
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I wanna have 100 ILV but not there yet

worn plover
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you don't have?

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LOL

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right bro

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Top 1 in beyond

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LOL

red geyser
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That would be nice. But some of us have the ilv hoping for the passive revdis. $0.80/month/ILV is my middle of the road expectation for revdis.

novel oak
worn plover
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šŸ˜„

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we place our money in different places

rigid escarp
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the land is rly interesting aswell imo.
if the game rly takes off there is so much money to be made with them

worn plover
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oh okay.. cool interesting

rigid escarp
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If he has 7 of them, they can generate so much passive roubles

worn plover
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7 T1

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crazy

novel oak
worn plover
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I only have 1 x T2 and 1 x T3

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that's it

novel oak
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Oh and 4 of mine form a mega city

worn plover
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crazy

rigid escarp
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damn
i dont own any land, just token

worn plover
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yeah i gave up on leaderboard for beyond

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it is draining my wallet

novel oak
worn plover
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well.. I am not even top 100

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I am happy with my collection

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when is Wave 3

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I ran out of money

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I am living under a bridge right now

novel oak
worn plover
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jesus.. I hope they delay it till I have a boat load of money

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it is being shipped right now in my dreams

rigid escarp
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No man wtf, we need game in q2

fringe girder
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I want to playy

worn plover
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yeah..

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true.. I am so board walking around on my own

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why can't we play with multiple people at least 4

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capture together

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and kill animals

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so we can be sued by peta

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for killing illuvials

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Man.. do you guys still stake in LP ?

worn plover
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or just stake direclty ILV

rigid escarp
red geyser
worn plover
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it is bad to take out from LP I guess

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impermenant loss

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just keep it there and don't move

covert violet
rigid escarp
red geyser
# worn plover impermenant loss

Don’t see how it matters. The value is what the value is. Making it sometimes. Losing it sometimes. Impermanent loss is a boogie man.

worn plover
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you gain one. you lose one

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LOL

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if ETH increase to the moon we will get a ton of ILV

red geyser
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I mean if I’m down being on lp why wait for LP to bring me up if I think it will be better/faster up elsewhere.

worn plover
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is that right?

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I've been staking since N years now

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LOL

rigid escarp
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My 1st slp stake is still going, its been out of vesting for more then a year now.

worn plover
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that is my first stake

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I am a diamond hander

rigid escarp
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My 1st was march '22

worn plover
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my most recent is

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restaking rewards

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I guess there is no point staking now

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since it will go past the final ILV distribution

rigid escarp
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if u stake now, its probably for setting yourself up for revdis, so probs just stake full ILV no more slp

worn plover
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Almost over?

red geyser
# worn plover if ETH increase to the moon we will get a ton of ILV

Only if people dump more ILV into the eth/ILV pool. If that’s the case we’d be better off holding eth separately and buying ILV at the lower eth price later. Thats the impermanent loss experience. Being better off holding separately. But hindsight does not change the current situation.

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Stop

worn plover
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I am thinking when should we stop staking SLP and take it out

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until the very end?

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I forgot when is the last day for ILV distribution rewards for staking and SLP

worn plover
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very soon

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time flies by so fast

fierce vine
# rigid escarp june 30th 2024

Wonder if there’s any plans when dex liquidity goes to 0. Once there’s no extra slp rewards don’t think the fees will be enough to entice people. Unless revdis is ass then maybe

red geyser
fierce vine
# red geyser What might a high end additional monthly volume of $20m do for fees? Thats like...

I’m still in the boat I don’t think volume will outpace revdis returns. Sure you get the ilv value out of slp on revdis. I’m expecting a large drop in liquidity on sushi following June and possibly leading up. For sure if we somehow aren’t launched in June. You likely can write a program to see what revdis amount + volume makes slp a better choice but I don’t have the time for that. I might leave mine just because staking isn’t working for me and I’m too lazy to submit a ticket

red geyser
red geyser
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Ah. So at the moment that’s around $0.01 per month for each dollar in the lp.

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12% apr

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Or am I crazy? Running made up numbers

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That apr goes up with less than the $62m that’s in the pool today. But $20m volume each month sounds like a lot to me.

red geyser
# red geyser ~~12% apr~~

But that’s just added to the lp balance. No way to get that value without pulling liquidity. Unless there’s a way to get SUSHI rewards. But that cuts the apr to… maybe …

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Wait.

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I missed a zero

fierce vine
red geyser
fierce vine
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I saved up a little chunk just in case silv was worth the tax hit but I’ll just throw it into ilv and wait a year

red geyser
red geyser
sonic dagger
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wow

fierce vine
sonic dagger
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how much does the treasury has in the pool?

red geyser
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Pretty sure. It’s actually worse than that. Because it’s not actually 0.3% it’s 0.25% because the other 0.05% goes to SUSHI masterchef pool

sonic dagger
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$8m or have pulled that out

red geyser
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So like 1.2% apr to 2% apr. Weak

fierce vine
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I misread what you said anyway and miscalculated how much I’m getting per day so I’m wrong about all my numbers lol

red geyser
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I’m not certain of mine either. Just sitting here…

fierce vine
# red geyser I’m not certain of mine either. Just sitting here…

I think regardless of the math it wont matter and SLP will have a lot of liquidity being pulled from it. no extra rewards so the risk to reward isn't as strong as it is right now. you're getting extra benefits for holding ILV and Eth and for some I'm sure that's the only reason they're holding it. We are going to see a lot of people go ILV only, and a lot of people fully exit as well. A lot of that depends on if we are launched. If we aren't launched, regardless if it's a soon (tm) situation, we likely will get hit heavy on the eth:ilv ratio

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I'll be not lazy if we haven't launched yet and just full exit my slp position tbh then decide after if I re-enter

sonic dagger
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Fuel crate airdrops for the LP?

robust apex
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Makes staking slp less worthwhile not

red geyser
crimson matrix
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@white sand D1sk Battle?

white sand
fading flame
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well they seem to have liked the idea of nfts, just wanted their own instead šŸ˜‰
"Esports organization Team Liquid has partnered with Mysten Labs, the original creator of the Sui blockchain, to launch a new fan loyalty platform and NFT collectibles experience. Team Liquid, known for its presence in games like League of Legends and Counter-Strike, will revamp its fan loyalty program to reward supporters with points. The upcoming platform, scheduled for release in Q2 2024, will offer fans unique NFT collectibles to customize avatars representing Team Liquid's mascot, Blue. These collectibles will provide exclusive benefits such as discounts, event access, giveaways, and special interactions with players and teams. Team Liquid and Mysten Labs will collaborate on marketing initiatives, including content related to crypto games on Sui."

mighty anvil
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hello the NFts of Illuvium events that you can buy in Immutable are real?' is what they gave away as airdrop?

proper zealot
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hello everybody,irly would liketo know how i can join ''overworld beta''. ( i used to be WoW player but i rly like the looks of this game.

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also i started streaming on twitch and ofc wil stream the game also

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all help welcome šŸ™‚

keen ledge
red geyser
red geyser
untold crown
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If illuvials minting go live on chain with Public Beta, why not simply call it version 1.0 and then iterate from there with patches? Open beta doesn't feel great for marketing imo.

mighty anvil
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@red geyser thanks

split lintel
red geyser
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Just noticed. Done

teal marten
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gmAtlas_Yeah

verbal cairn
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Does anyone know when the project does a capital raise, like the recent one with Framework, where are the tokens being sold coming from?

verbal cairn
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The dao holds enough tokens for these capital raises with vc's?

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Have no issue with it, just curious how this is happening.

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So the dao holdings is the treasury? Can anyone clear this up

near pier
# verbal cairn So the dao holdings is the treasury? Can anyone clear this up
near pier
verbal cairn
red geyser
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The remaining launchpad allocation was added to the treasury tokens.

verbal cairn
red geyser
verbal cairn
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Just to let you guys know saw the recent overworld hunting video and thought it was very good. Convinced me to withdraw my slp, swap my eth for ilv and then restake all my ilv for revdis. Amazing job guys. You continue give me a lot of confidence on the project.

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Also heard about a possible battle royale in overworld. that would be really cool 😁

junior blaze
verbal cairn
inland turret
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Gm

split lintel
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Kieran gives the main council as much info as is relevant

worldly mist
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Really hope they do something with it

pearl crest
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How's everyone doing ?

sonic dagger
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waiting for my wicked wings

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i had double cheese yesterday

split lintel
sonic dagger
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and snack box

split lintel
sonic dagger
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oh god wicked wings dipped in gravy

umbral path
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link of the leaderboard plz

red geyser
grim rampart
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Hi I am Harue from DMTP. Whom can I talk with regarding collaboration? Thank you

red geyser
narrow vigilBOT
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Collab Request

Thank you for your interest in collaborating with Illuvium. To submit a collaboration request, please use the form available on our support page: http://link.illuvium.io/collab.

umbral path
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wow

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2000 points

red geyser
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Anyone online and want to help me test something? If you get banned I can bring you back right away.

sonic dagger
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will i lose xp

red geyser
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I can’t mute or unmute you

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So not a safe test subject for what I want to try out

grim rampart
sonic dagger
red geyser
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No one is here and wants to try it

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Oh well

red geyser
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I tested the thing. Nothing happened. It wouldn’t let me do it.

split lintel
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I'm game

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Even tho I am council, try anyways

winter panther
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I can't find decks to try and play, can anyone recommend an updated page? The last ones I see are 70 days :c

near pier
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There is usually a lot of people in their posting tyeams

winter panther
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Thanks ā¤ļø

sonic dagger
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@lusty mantle

near pier
sonic dagger
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Im 10th

near pier
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am i still 2?

sonic dagger
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i dont think so

near pier
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Internal chats dont count 😦

sonic dagger
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like last month tho

near pier
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Ah at least its Peli that took me

umbral path
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1000 points reached

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bravooooo

bold dagger
# split lintel God yes

Hi Mate did you end up sharing your Iluvium Zero spreadsheet from the "I uncover which Illuvium land tier produces the most fuel?" video ?

split lintel
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Either way I'll add u. Remind me to send in like 2 hours

lusty mantle
bold dagger
near pier
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should i give him 1 more

wary parrot
# sonic dagger

@lusty mantle Frag is just super crazy how is this even possible

lusty mantle
wary parrot
thick jasper
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I got to 7th place in one year.

lusty mantle
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Almost at 33% šŸ˜‰

pearl crest
lusty mantle
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Yeah that was my average

pearl crest
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I do more hours but I am in a position of leadership

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I have alot of people under me and I have to deal with alot of stuff

lusty mantle
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Yeah I’m talking about discord šŸ˜…

young bone
split lintel
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I like seeing if others do

young bone
pearl crest
umbral path
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how many points i need to start wining money?

wary parrot
pearl crest
pseudo flint
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<@&814435151307866142> "This proposal establishes a transparent revenue-sharing mechanism, ensuring landowners receive a 5% share from digital product sales."
Really ???????

seems ALot different from ........

Step One: Player buys $100 worth of the Fuel token- Exchanging Currency (ETH) ->Fuel token
Step Two: Through Internal Process $5 is deposited into the landowner revenue pool

Unless I am misunderstanding something

sonic dagger
inner topaz
dense canyon
pseudo flint
deft rose
deft rose
inner topaz
pseudo flint
deft rose
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Yeah i remember the rules at the land sale. It has been communicated that landholders receive 5% of fuel sales. Its been very specific, people simply didnt really think about what it means.

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That is why i decided to sell my land for more ilv. Ilv was a better deal by far

inner topaz
pseudo flint
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@inner topaz I have been here for years I have trusted you @plain delta Grant I have defended this project . For what you stand for even when you bailed out the silv stuff . because it was fair .

Even when i have felt like I have no voice here no one that is of importance thinks I have don't have anything to contribute and completely disregard me perfect example not one person on the council left 1 piece of feed back on the document i prepared

Can you tell me that this is fair to the the stakers that were promised 100% revids back then ?

inner topaz
umbral path
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today i won 300 points

pearl crest
thin elbow
pseudo flint
inner topaz
thin elbow
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And all ingame purchases have to be made in fuel.

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It's the Same wide net as it is in the old iip

pseudo flint
thin elbow
pseudo flint
thin elbow
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Ok

pseudo flint
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its as pointlessas talking to a wall'

inner topaz
pseudo flint
inner topaz
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Okay but you do realise that once fuel is live you will use it to purchase Illuvitars?

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Which was always the intention

pseudo flint
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@inner topaz thanks for your time

pearl crest
inner topaz
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No worries. I mean, I'm not sure if I'm being trolled at this point but either way I'd just like to point out that we're talking about a small amount of revenue in the scheme of things. Giving landholders their portion of Illuvitars purchases which we have stated is a game should be menial when compared to other in game revenue

pseudo flint
thin elbow
sonic dagger
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it should be, except for promo d1sk maybe

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to think about it, what about the next land sale, can we mint using fuel?

proper pulsar
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wen open beta?

inner topaz
tribal gyro
inner topaz
wary parrot
solid tulip
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guys I think that by claiming my staking I screwed up, I forgot that I had to go through sushi, there is no way to rectify this?

plain delta
# pseudo flint <@770826457923715082> I have been here for years I have trusted you <@78185...

I have made one statement on this, so I know I have remained consistent.

  1. Landholders didn't get a share of Illuvitars because we didn't have fuel for transactions yet. It was simpler not to include those sales, and there was no promise landholders would benefit from them anyway.

  2. In my view, once we have fuel, Beyond sales, Land sales, etc., should count as in-game purchases, and landholders should be able to benefit by selling fuel.

  3. Just a heads-up, I'm not on the council, so this is just my take.

small stratus
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Hello everyone, my wife and I played on different accounts from the same PC, I received rewards, she doesn’t have any, what should I do?

plain delta
small stratus
sweet wing
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Land sales šŸ‘€

plain delta
# sweet wing Land sales šŸ‘€

I'm not saying we are having another sale. Not up to me. That's council. I don't think we will see one for a while. I'm saying that, conceptually, that's for the game it should be counted in my opinion. i.e. next sale you'd be purchasing with FUEL.

plain delta
small stratus
crimson matrix
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lol no way thats his wife 🤣

sweet wing
abstract granite
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you can also put the game in German

brittle mountain
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you can also put the game in Chinese? I can help with translation šŸ˜‰

azure narwhal
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I never thought I’d see myself taking solars side in any and especially that argument but those rahlord receipts were damning

azure narwhal
analog isle
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Are the rewards already sent out

red geyser
analog isle
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Leaderboard

solid tulip
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Ah cool , which one is it

red geyser
red geyser
red geyser
worldly mist
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HOW IS EVERYONE DOING TODAY? šŸ™‚

thin elbow
worldly mist
red geyser
thin elbow
worldly mist
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Honestly I am the worst at procrastinating

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that will be my new resolution this year

thin elbow
worldly mist
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im multitasking currently tho so were good

thin elbow
pearl crest
sonic dagger
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what is waging

red geyser
past jay
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Oh good, I'm glad the founders have clarified for Solarstorm that his narrative about trying entrench land as the worst investment is history is wrong and was based on false convictions.

red geyser
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Mining fiat

red geyser
lean lance
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gm, is there a way to track revenue distribution

red geyser
red geyser
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There’s been not enough revenue to be distributed

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The last $5m in revenue was placed in the safety pool.

lean lance
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is 0x6bd2814426f9a6abaa427d2ad3fc898d2a57adc6 the safefy pool

red geyser
red geyser
past jay
# red geyser I’m slightly confused. It seems like they said different things.

Solar has been dissatisfied that land holders are likely to receive 5% revenue share (distributed via fuel sales) from all games, following the IIP clarification. They have been arguing that this was never advertised or intended - and that only revenue from fuel sales would count, so that if a game did not have fuel integrated due to technical limitations or oversight etc. then landholders shouldn't see any of it. From what I read just now, Kieran and Aaron have made it clear that, in their view, 5% revenue share from all games is and was always the proposition for land.

lean lance
past jay
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I understand Solar believes this is a new development and that is is effectively taking away revenue from ILV stakers, but the founders comments prove this to be a false narrative.

red geyser
lean lance
past jay
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They have posted at length about why they believe they knew from the very start that land was a vastly inferior investment compared to ILV, and I suspect that they are disturbed that they may not be able to so easily hold on to and demonstrate that notion.

red geyser
red geyser
covert violet
red geyser
lean lance
past jay
# red geyser Maybe. Or just that things change.

Maybe, and to be honest the underlying fact is that it does divert revenue from ILV stakers. However, I believe this was always the intention in order to give land a use-case - it's not a new tactic being deployed to surreptitiously give more to land holders and less to ILV stakers - it's just a long overdue clarification and correction.

pseudo flint
pseudo flint
past jay
hard trellis
red geyser
past jay
last geode
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Hello

red geyser
narrow vigilBOT
last geode
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Ok ok

sonic dagger
worldly mist
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Im just glad someone does kektalik

past jay
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Waging lol, that's definitely how I'd describe my job too. Although if I didn't have to work to live, then maybe I would still do a couple of days a week, for society, you know.

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At least until the AI robots can take over šŸ¤–

pseudo flint
lean lance
pseudo flint
thin elbow
lean lance
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  1. so the last rev dis went to the safety pool instead of ILV stakers?
  2. is the 500 ETH buffer set by the gov proposal?
  3. i wrote a script and grabbed daily ETH inflow to the IMX wallet, looks like there are a lot of activities from march to june of 2023, what happened there
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i cant post image here but it is on imugr with ID Ne3a7Uj

past jay
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Has there been any update on why the Illuvium Medium isn't working? Some pages even say 'This account is under investigation or was found in violation of Medium Rules' Atlas_Dead

thin elbow
past jay
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Might be appropriate to at least remove it from #šŸ”—ć€•helpful-links if it's not going to work again and is going to give such a dodgy impression?

sinful scarab
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hi, can anyone tell me why i should go with the lynx without an affinity over the one with an affinity? i mean a lynx with a class but no affinity, not the lnyx without affinity and class.

pseudo flint
# past jay Would you also dispute any attempt to use fuel for anything other than overworld...

No if fact I proposed in that document the %5 be take out at time ofpurchase of fuel there for it ensures that the land owners always get the 5% and no one has to worry about individual purchases and makes it completely future proof as long as there a central place to buy fuel the land owners always get thier %5

Step One: Player buys $100 worth of the Fuel token- Exchanging Currency (ETH) ->Fuel token
Step Two: Through Internal Process $5 is deposited into the landowner revenue pool
When Step 1 and step 2 are completed the DAO though the process above, has fulfilled it
obligation to divert 5% of all token revenue sales to the Landholder revenue pool before the
player has even purchased any product or service.

The indisputable fact that the Landowner revenue pool gets its " 5% share" before the player
has had a chance to make any purchases of product or services further proves individual
product and service sales have nothing to do with the Landowners getting their 5%.

i am not the villain some try to make me out to be I am also not anti land anti land owner or annti landowner pay out

I am simply what seems to be the ONLY PERSON eft to Defend staker intrests as all the other OG like Rahlord have seem to disappear make sure 100% Revdis the stakers were Promised at the beginning does not keep getting chipped away at like it has already 2 x

Landowner revenue cant at the STAKERS expense

sinful scarab
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also: when i look at stats, the bullwark lynx has less health than the fighter lynx. he does less damage and has less attack speed. why is that?

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he has 1 point more ressistances....

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but weaker stats in everything

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what do i miss?

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i understand the less attack speed and damage

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but not the less health part

thin elbow
sinful scarab
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hm ok th you, ou yea im sorry, should have post it there!

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@thin elbow youre helping me again šŸ˜‰

thin elbow
sinful scarab
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ok got ya @thin elbow ill discuss the rest there^^ th you brother šŸ™‚

sonic dagger
pseudo flint
past jay
# pseudo flint No if fact I proposed in that document the %5 be take out at time ofpurchase of...

I'm not a mathematician so I will probably show my ignorance here, but what you're describing is 5% of fuel sales and not 5% of in-game revenues. Now those things could be the same, but only if literally everything in-game was only sold for fuel, which of course, hasn't been the case and is probably never likely to be the definitive case? So your suggestion wouldn't satisfy the 5% in-game revenue share.

sonic dagger
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guys we are a dao, anything can be changed with an IIP

pseudo flint
# past jay I'm not a mathematician so I will probably show my ignorance here, but what you'...

It was NEVER intended for Landowners to get what IIP 45 or many land owners interpret as " all in game purchases"

I tried to get that clarified here
#šŸŽ®ć€•illuvium-zero message
but of course that question was to "inconvenient" and was never answer by anyone on council or team

Rahlord if you are not aware was a member of the counsel that past IIP 20 So if anyone knows what the IIP means its him as they were involved inthe discussion before it was voted on

past jay
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I honestly think your issue should be around how they define 'in-game' and not about the distinction between 5% fuel-sales and in-game share, as practically these should equate to the same thing.

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Clearly Rahlord did not consider land sale or illuvitars to be 'in-game'

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That's really all you can take from that quote

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And the council may find in favour of that, based on that specific point in time - what is considered 'in-game' now can be very different to what was considered 'in-game' then.

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Is there any attempt in the pending IIP to seek to apply it retrospectively to previous illuvitar sales?

red geyser
red geyser
pseudo flint
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@past jay <@&814435151307866142> Sorry to keep pinging you but people keep telling me "I" am the one who doesn't understand and I feel i have to prove I do have an very good understanding of the subject matter to maintain creditbility.

@past jay #šŸ’¬ć€•general message
Arash | Illuvimod — 11/30/2021 5:10 AM
what you said was correct. whatever fuel sell happens in IZ, it goes to land owners (which is only about 5% cuz the rest goes to DAO). whatever ETH spend elsewhere (speeding up, travel, curing shard, making weapons or armors, whatever stuff bought in the market place, Leviathan Arena, Merchs, Movie, etc.) goes to all stakers

green mirage
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damn quote from 3 years ago, this is getting heat up

young valve
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GM

pseudo flint
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taking a break

green mirage
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this is always entertaining @sonic dagger am I right

red geyser
# pseudo flint <@237645628954509316> <@&814435151307866142> Sorry to keep pinging you but p...

Welp that’s not how curing shards or forging works. Those use fuel. So not the best mod quote. But hey you make your statement of your position clearly. There’s not really a need to continue every discussion until you convince everyone or even anyone else.

General chat simply is not the best place to debate the finer points of governance proposals.

Oof. And in the time I take to write you are already on a break.

dusty plank
# pseudo flint <@237645628954509316> <@&814435151307866142> Sorry to keep pinging you but p...

It comes down to a pretty simple point. If it was possible to use Fuel for Beyond, we'd do that. Fuel isn't ready to go to be used as a currency yet, there's some work that needs to be done to get us to that state.

So if the intention is to use Fuel, but we can't use Fuel, we need an interim solution. That's what the proposal is putting forward, a way to get landowners their 5% without Fuel sales until the Fuel system is ready to be used.

sonic dagger
green mirage
red geyser
dusty plank
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What single individuals said 3 years ago is less important than the big picture. We obviously have a clearer idea of how Illuvium's economy will work now that we're on the cusp of open beta, and Fuel systems have been clarified multiple times, our products have evolved, and will continue to do so. I don't think it's particularly helpful or enlightening to shackle ourselves to individual interpretations from 3 years ago, as compared to trying to find common sense solutions for problems that exist now.

crimson matrix
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land is great again?

green mirage
crimson matrix
thin elbow
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Or 4

green mirage
crimson matrix
lean lance
pseudo flint
dusty plank
lean lance
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are the forging fees, revival fees, fusing fees in Overworld and tournament fees in Arena all paid in ETH?

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What fees do people pay in the game? Is it all cosmetic or can you pay-to-win?

dusty plank
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I don't have bandwidth right now to provide emotional support - You know how our governance systems work, you can create a post in #1020759212172775464 or #1126838877429182506 , if the community likes it, it'll get upvoted and can move through our processes. If it doesn't, it's not because everyone hates or disrespects you, it might just be that people don't like the idea.

You're allowed to feel that digital product sales is too broad, but that's how it's written in the proposal.

rigid escarp
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@pseudo flint i am not a fan of the 5% revdis for land owners, but i can see the problem.
in my mind the 5% will just be temporary until we find a better solution.
altho i hope when it swings the other way and we get into a system where fuel and other land features reap massive gains, lets see how land owners react then when the token holders feel left out.
in my eyes, its all part of the risk u take on the initial investment.
we all invested in uncertain products in the time we bought them, its been a clear choice to buy land, and i dont think its the community's job to find a fix for unsatisfied customers.
For all i know the airdrop they got, is already worth more then the revdis i recieved on my tokens so far.

red geyser
rigid escarp
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In my eyes token holders in the future deserve 5% of the money made with a tournament on your land for example, u win some u lose some

past jay
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Only tier 5 can host tournaments and the sale of those has been indefinitely postponed.

rigid escarp
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And as i sed, the airdrop they got, is already worth more then the revdis we got on our tokens

red geyser
rigid escarp
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Once we start cross dipping the 2, there is no end to it, and there will be a grudge if one of the others reaps bigger gains.
what we gonna do when token holders start crying? just make a iip to steal some from land?
its just a bad thing to even start doing it, if land in the future makes for massive earning oppertunity, fair play to them they took the risk they should yield the rewards

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Now, im sure a iip to counter it will be comming once its out of balance

thin elbow
rigid escarp
rigid escarp
lean lance
pseudo flint
# rigid escarp <@896452202200174674> i am not a fan of the 5% revdis for land owners, but i can...

**5% eth pay out for land owners ** - NOT Revdis - Unlocked ILV --- big difference. Staking was an easy choice start

In the beginning it was simple - there was nothing to misunderstand or even think about

**Stake token Get 100% of ALL Revenue every single penny that come in will go to the stakers **

Then it was

hey lets give 5% of fuel related sales taken form the stakers and give them to this new think called ILVz ---lots of murmuring about that
People still were saying it was still 100% revdis jsut 5% shaved off of one income stream

Then it was oh we have to adjust because now we are offering physical products soo
Now ist - 5% and - associated costs - that at least makes some sense because associated costs are not " profit" and the cost to make physical product hasto come form somewhere

now its oohh btw we are changing the rules now the land owners get 5% of ensuring landowners receive a 5% share from digital product sales.

The worst part is now they are saying "this is the way we panned it" yet this is the fist time i herd of it and no one can point me to document that states where it was " planned"

thin elbow
maiden sinew
rigid escarp
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always made sense that the 2 where completely seperate products, with completely seperate utility and opportunities.

red geyser
rigid escarp
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idk bro, to me it feels like we should get 5% from fuel sales for token revdis pool.

thin elbow
rigid escarp
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u mean the sale tax ment for revdis?

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im sure when u are mining the fuel u earn on the fuel

thin elbow
red geyser
pulsar flicker
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Hi

rigid escarp
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well, revdis is being payed from taxing ingame transactions right?

thin elbow
rigid escarp
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how does selling fuel not fit into this

red geyser
rigid escarp
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well, ill go do some reading then

pseudo flint
pseudo flint
wanton zenith
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What does the dominant trait do? Is it stat differences?

rigid escarp
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Well Fair enough, i guess the risk of 80% inflation on your land asset is risky

red geyser
rigid escarp
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does this mean land basicly get a 5% cashback on the landsale ? 🤣

sonic dagger
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next one, yes

rigid escarp
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so stupid

sonic dagger
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maybe IIP revision need to be re-voted by the community

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it changed a lot from the original

red geyser
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The increased demand for fuel to be used to buy land is a pretty good way to keep some value to lands as the supply increases. Unless it’s a better idea to just airdrop any new lands to current land holders.

rigid escarp
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its okay tho, it is what it is, the 5head council will make well weighted judgement.

green mirage
sonic dagger
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whoa

red geyser
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95% or 2% of trading fees

sonic dagger
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im ranked 10 in discord wheres my airdrop

rigid escarp
sonic dagger
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idk you anymore peli

fierce vine
young bone
thin elbow
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Long time ago....

young bone
thin elbow
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He actually went all over the place with this topic

young bone
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So he can again. Yes I know.

thin elbow
young bone
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So many processes that were happening haven't been happening for a long time.
It helped conversation flow and clear the channels for other things. Maybe the system has changed?

young bone
# thin elbow ? What's unclear?

I said that before you said he did it she's ago.
I noticed the conversation kept going after being asked to go there, so it didn't make sense.

thin elbow
young bone
# thin elbow Discord Chanel rules got way more open Long time ago, i guess so discussions sti...

Yeah I definitely see that happens too. I'm all for open communication, and I get the issue of breaking flow.
It's more about the same thing being discussed multiple times, across multiple channels.
Yet maybe it's just not necessary.
Just not sure how this looks to new people. Where is the space for them to communicate when everyone is having lengthy discussions about everything, especially things that have already been implemented and then questioned.

young bone
red geyser
fierce vine
sage falcon
red geyser
narrow vigilBOT
hallow geyser
worthy ermine
wanton zenith
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Are customs typically quite buggy? Lots of delay between rounds

rigid escarp
pale bridge
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Ledger Nano S wallet login does not work on Illuvidex Site. Error code 1000. Anyone has the same problem?

plain delta
# pseudo flint First of all thank you for replying . Unfortunately we are on opposite sides of...

Absolutely no problems with disagreeing on things. You guys disagree with me all the time. Sometimes it ends up being what you want, sometimes me. And sometimes half the community want one thing and half the other.

One motivation is that certain purchases I think should be in ā€œfuelā€ and others in ā€œparticular fuel.

Let’s say cryptons become expensive. If we have some items that can be bought with EITHER Cryptons or solons then in this case they will be bought in Solons. That will raise the price and maybe drop the price of Cryptons.

This balances the values of each fuel. We want fluctuations but we don’t want such big fluctuations. This really helps.

crimson matrix
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gang gang

near pier
pale bridge
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it's 2.1.0 (ledger nano S)

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wallet drainer incoming

near pier
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i was googling the error, not sure what exactly it is

pale bridge
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yeah I cleared browser cache, restarted etc. logout login etc.

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Never had this issue before

near pier
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Have you tried disconnecting on Immutable Marketplace as well and logging in there

near pier
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do you use multiple wallets on your ledger or just one

pale bridge
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multiple

near pier
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Yeah could be your logged into IMX somewhere with a diff walelt

pale bridge
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same error on imx

near pier
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logging out on IMX MP and Illuvidex and logging in can fix sometimes

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So is the error on IMX flow

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or metamask flow

pale bridge
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lol another one?
ban?

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yes do you want to help?

pale bridge
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but this one account does not work :S

near pier
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Poor Dick Rema

burnt zenith
narrow vigilBOT
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Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

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near pier
near pier
pale bridge
narrow vigilBOT
#
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Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

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storm rain
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@split lintel thanks for the video with tarren but i dont understand a bs, so u can add subtitles?

patent igloo
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hello everyone

normal python
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That Download thing is just 1h of Tarren telling Scoriox he knows but he can't say. I don't get that show šŸ˜…

near pier
wooden burrow
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The whole 5% to landowners conversation is wild to me lol. Like, we're talking about a borderline insignificant sum in the short - mid term. Look how long it took for Illuvitars and trade volume to fill the safety pool.

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And as a T3 landowner, who bought at mint, and didn't sell, I can tell you it's been excruciating to see that sum of money bring little to no returns when Staking that for the last billion months would have been immensely profitable in increasing my exposure to the ecosystem.

late geyser
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I cant purchase anything on token trove or marketplace

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It says "imx conection is closed"

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Code 5003 error

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Even though I have suffisant fonds

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Anyone can help )

past jay
# pseudo flint **5% eth pay out for land owners ** - NOT Revdis - Unlocked ILV --- big diff...

It is written down in IIP-20 (granted, with potentially confusing references to the 'main game'), and was advertised in various videos as 'approximately 5% share of all in-game revenues'. IIP-45 is seeking to clarify how 'in-game revenues' shall be defined and applied, something which should have happened a long time ago obviously. It is not a new concept that this revenue would be diverted from RevDis - this was probably objected to at the time, prior to the land sale, but clearly it went ahead so the opportunity to oppose and stop it, as it seems is your intention, is gone.

It seems that the council is proposing in IIP-45-R to define 'in-game revenue' as 'digital product sales'. Something which you are clearly not in support of - so again I would suggest that the issue you should be taking forwards is with how they are attempting to define 'in-game revenue' and not with the overarching 5% of in-game revenues notion, as this quite frankly, is almost set in stone, and not even part of the current debate.

tame lake
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How do we watch a replay of our match

thin elbow
red geyser
tame lake
thin elbow
teal marten
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gmAtlas_Yeah

spring oar
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did the annoucnemnet abuot airdrop ejnd up being those gas tanks?

red geyser
inner topaz
# pseudo flint **5% eth pay out for land owners ** - NOT Revdis - Unlocked ILV --- big diff...

Okay imagine everything remained the same and this proposal didn’t exist, and someone wrote a new proposal saying Illuvitars should be priced in fuel as it’s a game inside the ecosystem. Would that be what you’re arguing about? Whether it’s a game or not? Or is it the idea that digital sales is too broad?

I don’t mind either way, but others feel strong about it hence the long debate that went on when the proposal was introduced. I think it’s fair given we have previously said that landholders will receive 5% of ingame revenue and illuvitars is advertised a collection game.

thin elbow
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That's why he thinks this is a Big pivot if this proposal gets approved

rocky raft
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ok so how do spammers know my illuvium email when the only one knowing my email is illuvium

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someones server or provider got wrecked

tribal gyro
thin elbow
old folio
rocky raft
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ah ok

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i was late getting hammered then

brittle mountain
# thin elbow That's why he thinks this is a Big pivot if this proposal gets approved

It’s quite annoying to see him keep looping what he think is right EVERYDAY. As many people, even Kieran and Aaron yesterday, have clarified to him. It’s time to move on.
There’s some misinterpretation to the project, which can happen to anyone anytime, that’s fine. But it seems his pride can’t take it.
We ask questions, get answers, done. Let alone the ā€œ5% of revenue go to landownersā€ was stated 2-3 years ago, I don’t understand what’s the point of making a fuss about it now. He rise argument in Zero channel and general channel. JUST MOVE ON.

pearl crest
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Are you guys ready for the ilv tiktok challenge?

dusky timber
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Hello. My friend's wallet got drained. He still got ILV staked using that wallet. Can someone help him pls.

red geyser
dusky timber
red geyser
dusky timber
red geyser
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If they have the keys to control the wallet

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Move funds. Thats the one.

dusky timber
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So he's fucked?

red geyser
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It’s gone

dusky timber
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😢😢😢

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There's no way to get it back right?

red geyser
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He could make a report to the police and see if he could track funds until they go to a CEX and see if the CEX will freeze the account.

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It’s a terrible long shot but it’s the only option really.

green mirage
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this is why you need a hardware wallet

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I learned this the hard way too

red geyser
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And never input keys anywhere.

dusky timber
green mirage
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yep, I only had handwriten keys

dusky timber
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Half of his Ilv Is on ledger.

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Thanks for the info @red geyser .

red geyser
dusky timber
narrow vigilBOT
#
DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

red geyser
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If CEX works then CEX works.

dusky timber
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Can someone drain your wallet by connecting to a wrong website?

pearl crest
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Yes

red geyser
green mirage
inner topaz
# thin elbow To clear things up... His take is; Zero doesn't receive 5% of ingame revenue. Z...

I agree there is some ambiguity with IIP-20 but I think this line is pretty clear "The target will be for landowners to earn approximately 5% of the total revenue generated from in-game purchases in Illuvium."

The debate isn't whether land holders will receive revenue from ingame transactions that has already been approved. It's what is construed as "in-game revenue". In this case I believe we're talking about defining if Illuvium beyond is a game. My take is that it is a collection game inside the ecosystem, therefore should be included.

sonic dagger
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yes, fuel has always been the in-game currency and eth is for P2P transaction.
the IIP is accomodating for in-game transactions done without fuel

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is not a pivot at all, it just clarifies IIP-20

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let's say we are selling a limited-edition Pudgy Illuvial in ETH, because pudgy wants their split in eth. landholders should get 5% of that sale. the IIP accomodates that

molten agate
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Just a quick check in to let you guys know... I still love you all PEACE ā¤ļøā€šŸ”„

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Bye again heart_hands

split lintel
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English subtitles? Yeah I can try

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Livestreams don't default add them for some reason

storm rain
storm rain
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chinese

keen ledge
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Is zero going to be linked to the rest of games, like the overworld ? So we need to get fuel from zero to catch
Illuviums in overworld , so we can use units to play arena ?

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If i got it right, i hope not, what about ppl who wanna spend their time playing autobattler, and wasting hours daily going in VR world chasing pokemons

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And not* wasting hours

split lintel
keen ledge
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So i am forced to buy zero land now ? So i can fuel my overworld to catch em, so i can bring them in arena to actually enjoy type of game that got me here šŸ˜„

sonic dagger
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No

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u can buy fuel from the fuel exchange

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and u can buy illuvials from illuvidex

keen ledge
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Oh nice

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I gotta choose if i spend tons of hours or money to play autobattler, for me, thats not problem i guess, but i hope we dont lose huge amount of audience

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Do we have any clue, when is overworld and autochess coming in to a alpha main openning

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?

sonic dagger
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open beta is planned for Q2

keen ledge
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Open beta is now main launch right ?

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Not*

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So at launch of none beta version, we get all assets in overworld and zero reset ?

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Is that planned for this year ?

sonic dagger
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open beta is the launch

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we are in a perpetual beta

hazy thorn
misty musk
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anyone can enligthen me when can we buy and sell illuvials in the marketplace? would it be present in the q2 launch?

misty musk
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damn crazyyyyyyy lets go! thats fireeeeeeeee

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so marketplace will be launch on illuvials also this revenue distribution in marketplace / microtransactions will be implemented already during launch by q2?

normal python
# sonic dagger open beta is planned for Q2

When the delay was announced it was said to be early Q2 release. I'm guessing that was just a strat to make the delay more palatable though. It's going to be June 30th and that's if we're lucky šŸ˜…

red geyser
misty musk
split lintel
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Gotta change my username cause I be winning things

red geyser
split lintel
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Gotta honour the magic I stole

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@potent glacier u gonna enter a losing streak

sonic dagger
split lintel
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PB4 is near identical to launch

sonic dagger
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why is your name ricky

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or my discord messed up

normal python
sonic dagger
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i prefer we test pb4 for months

red geyser
sweet wing
sonic dagger
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yes

sweet wing
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then yes, lots of testing there please

sonic dagger
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yea will be fhe first time we see all integrated

sweet wing
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last thing we need after all this waiting is some blockchain issue taking the whole thing down

normal python
sonic dagger
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how quick is quick

hazy thorn
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4weeks at most I would think

sonic dagger
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we have to see how buggy it is

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i agree we need some balance between fast vs perfect

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mavia launched with major bugs, and they patch the game like few times a week

sweet wing
sonic dagger
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big time was exploited. an item that can be sold for token was duped

sweet wing
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That's about my biggest fear right now

sonic dagger
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they only discovered because someone posted a video of some group exploiting it. a whistleblower

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dev had no idea

sweet wing
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whoa, lucky

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Makes you wonder. I think Star Atlas really promotes that everything in game will be on-chain, if I recall correctly, maybe not such a bad idea

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Must be way more dev though

sonic dagger
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theres a speed hack going in big time too

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cmiiw, being on chain doesnt help with exploits

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the blockchain is just a ledger

sweet wing
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Easier to see/track down though, right?

sonic dagger
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its the server side that need to detect anomaly

sweet wing
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yeah, hopefully they can without blockchain

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I don't know enough there

sonic dagger
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if they exploiters are not greedy, they can get away with it for an extended period

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anyway, people will still play the game tho

old folio
sonic dagger
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what happened

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dupes flooding the market?

sweet wing
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I hope the council is asking the good, tough questions about risk mitigation related to these types of issues. Jag, you on this?

tribal gyro
sonic dagger
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most of the time ICC meetings are just council

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and we discuss about topics raised from the community

sweet wing
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right, you can request cc attendance too though as needed, right?

sonic dagger
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yea, this week we had with nick

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i personally would wait until PB4 to raise concerns tho

sweet wing
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makes sense, as launch gets close

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Then hopefully they can answer what the biggest risks are, what they're doing to mitigate those, any contingency plans if something gets out, etc. I think holding them to thoes types of questions is important, but maybe more of an IMC role

sonic dagger
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yea IMC

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ICC is just bringing topics/sentiment from the community to team/IMC

sweet wing
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yep

split lintel
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THE NEW RNGESUS

tribal gyro
severe pumice
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Gmorning

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TFIF

young bone
young bone
eternal yoke
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@spiral acorn is working hard in the feedback section. šŸ‘ I see many contributions

spring hollow
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Heyooooo! longtime no see everyone! what's new?

blissful tinsel
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Can I speak to someone about partnerships? @inner topaz

narrow vigilBOT
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Collab Request

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inland turret
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Gm

pseudo flint
# inner topaz Okay imagine everything remained the same and this proposal didn’t exist, and so...
  • Mostly the wording Digital sales is too broad because it literally means EVERYTHING that is not Physical ( shirts hats stuffies etc) that is way to wide a door to open that i don't even think is relevent.
    _ really NOT PLEASED with how " all in game sales is being used" -which is the END RESULT but the intent of

IIP -20 literally has nothing to do with individual purchases or products sales as the land owners are already "paid" before any purchase by the player happens

"quote"
They will do so by swapping fuels they generate in-game for ETH.
On the other side, players in Illuvium will exchange ETH for fuel* and
use it to complete all transactions in the game except for trading between players.
The target will be for landowners to earn approximately 5% of the total revenue generated
from in-game purchases in Illuvium." end quote"

  • i am not a good artist but tried what i wrote in my document of how i think the process is supposed to work . Perhaps you can tell me if its wrong in my head.

What this shows is that land owners will ALWAYS get thier 5% as long as there is ALWAYS a demand for Fuel itself.

It does not matter how many games are released in the future if heart ablaze comes out an some how uses fuel in the game--- its already integrated they will get 5% atthe point of fuel sale

If Illuvium labs produce another 50 games that fuel - nothing "new " need to be done as above already applies they will get their 5% a the point of fuel sale when player buys fuel

pseudo flint
# inner topaz Okay imagine everything remained the same and this proposal didn’t exist, and so...

Continued....

So Yes if beyond game out and was purchased for fuel - fine what ever I still don't think it applies as Illuvitar IIP came before land sale. So if beyond been developed before land sale happened landowners would have not receive any of it retroactively. but really again its secondary to above.

  • also I don't believe that external stuff sold for ETH like power ups / other microtransactions were ever included as again the process is based around the production and sales of fuel as I understand it.

I see ILZ as a RETAIL sale - no different than buying a game off steam - It was mean to be a mini companion game there for should be the same classification as if somone bought a shirt or a Mug.

Landowners were only promised 2 things ( which is why i chose not to buy it as I was not interested in buying a limited access steam type game)

  1. The right to play on x number ( amount of land purchased) Limited edition plots ( 100 000 max)

  2. 5% of fuel related sales ( $5 out of every $100 $50, 000 out of every 1 000 000) as how in in the picture and decried in the iip.

Slightly off topic below........

I also have grievances with DAO policy on dealing with the amount of landowner rants that start with " we should have votes, more %, etc etc etc" when it was **clearly **not intended and this should be communicated more clearly mods / team / council when such rants come up.

thin elbow
# pseudo flint Continued.... So Yes if beyond game out and was purchased for fuel - fine...

I think the dao always should have an open ear for everything in here even the repeated "rants" especially if it happens repeatedly, because it means you have somewhere in the community an unhappy fraction. Maybe justified, maybe not.
Also the IP and it's products are in developement, improvements (changes) can and should be done.
Stop those and you will See the ip slowly dying.

"Never Change a running System" sounds cool to say, but is basically a death sentence to said system.

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thin elbow
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normal python
stuck bridge
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Valid concerns

normal python
thin elbow
thin elbow
# sonic dagger nice drawing

Im too stoopid to read it šŸ˜„
I See 100$ coming in and magically doubles to 200$ and then get split up between 3 groups.
And i'm like; wow need to understand how, but i can't

sonic dagger
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the diagram is incorrect

thin elbow
sonic dagger
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there i fixed it

thin elbow
sonic dagger
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yes?

thin elbow
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Ey @sonic dagger , why is there no Chat channel in the Governance section?

dusty plank
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Wrong person to reply to, sry Fubar šŸ˜›

thin elbow
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Right... I think General Governance should be taken out of that forum and not hidden in there. But probably just me. šŸ™ƒ

sonic dagger
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tbh i didnt know we have that

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oh wait ive been there

thin elbow
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Exact Same thoughts šŸ˜„

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It's also called the graveyard/tombs/Archive šŸ˜†

quiet widget
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can you forge any tier weapons and armor even from tier 0 runs if you have the fuel?

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also how do the cordonites work for land, will there be land in blank black spaces?

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and how do mega sities work?

thick jasper
quiet widget
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what constitutes a mega city?

thin elbow
thin elbow
thick jasper
thin elbow
warm lantern
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was hard to get into star rail server, it was almost always at 1mil cap

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hallow kraken
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has it be confirmed by the team pb4 is coming in q1?

solid tulip
worldly mist
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And maybe I also just want to play overworld with nft integration asap

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šŸ‘€

hallow kraken
nova granite
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Heyy, this is a scam right..?

narrow vigilBOT
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Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

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sweet wing
wild zinc
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61 weekly players

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GTFO with that shit

fathom quarry
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Anyone know anything about this?

thick jasper
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thick jasper
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don“t interact with it.

little coral
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Hi guys is there a way to change the keyboard settings in overwold ? (I have french one lol)

gentle egret
teal marten
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gmAtlas_Yeah

hard trellis
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If we break down here - I will admit I was finally wrong about the ILV coin movements - 15% is the max threshold imo

Spot and strong tho obvi

pale bridge
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Does anyone know who AudriusM is? He has a landplot that is interesting...

young bone
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Hi @near pier do I need to select the different language channels to be able to see them?

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Lol. I hate how it doesn't separate posts.

thin elbow
near pier
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On top

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You can select the channels you want to see

young bone
young bone
kind briar
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Hey

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how to access the overworld ?

thin elbow
kind briar
sweet wing
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try that

kind briar
young bone
sweet wing
kind briar
kind briar
sweet wing
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you should check out the latest Illuvium video of overworld too....big changes coming

young bone
sweet wing
kind briar
thick rose
kind briar
kind briar
novel oak
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@plain delta When do you think we will get to see the new game mode for Arena?

sweet wing
kind briar
sweet wing
sweet wing
kind briar
molten granite
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Has there been any indication as to when in Q2 the OB launch will be? Like April or more like late June?

potent glacier
tribal gyro
viral surge
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hello!

potent glacier
viral surge
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Can someone explain to me how the scoring system works, because sometimes it gives you very few points in ladder and sometimes a lot?

potent glacier
potent glacier
small spindle
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Just found out Tony Robbins has a stake in Team.Liquid 🤯

sage falcon
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Did Kyle quit now too?

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Ffffffuck

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Houston we have several problems

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@split lintel what's this username

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And last but not least, @open leaf did Scoriox win the Ramphy or wot

potent glacier
near pier
near pier
junior vapor
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Does anyone have an access code so I can play overworld?

potent glacier
near pier
indigo mantle
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This game is so laggy

young bone
young bone
clear fox
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Hello I got an email about minting Visit Illuvium Beta Access Page and connect your main wallet.
Claim your Illuvials.
Download the beta version of Illuvium.

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is this legit?

narrow vigilBOT
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DMs are scams

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Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

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dark flame
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scam

narrow vigilBOT
#
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Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

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clear fox
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alright thanks , had me excited for a moment though but glad I did some digging about it

near pier
clever tusk
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Hey all, creating a new metamask wallet. How do I move my account that has staked ilv to the new metamask wallet? My metamask got hacked and I lost some eth…

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sonic dagger
clever tusk
sonic dagger
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on the dashboard

clever tusk
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I don’t see a change wallet but I do see a disconnect wallet…

sonic dagger
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ru on the dashboard?

clever tusk
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Yes I am.

sonic dagger
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oh u were a v1 stakers?

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yea u cant change wallet if u have v1 staking

clever tusk
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Ahhh I was checking on my connected new metamask wallet. I check on my old metamask wallet and see the option to change wallets. But alittle scared to try it

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Say only locked can be transferred. What about unlocked staked ilv? Wondering if I have to claim the unlocked covert and send

sonic dagger
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hmmm

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im not sure about unlocked tokens

split lintel
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Im on a lucky streak

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I am doubling down

timber torrent
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I thought "Netflix" had release the trailer ...check out the "Dune" movie trailer ...it even got the Trex roar and the Bull and ranger statue šŸ˜‰

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set in chrimson waste šŸ˜‰