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Keep those moments burned in. āØ
Which Ben and Jerry's is the more important question
Any š
Ofc
Life is just the rat race
Board the train to the city
Go to work
Come home
Another day gotta keep things in perspective
gotta retire in revdis
Hi GM! I can't evolve the iluvials even if they are of the same level, it doesn't let me hit the fuse button, is there a trick? Or reach some minimum level or something?
š Lol Illuvium Price is Collapsing. What A Scamm. Below $100. You guys are finish i think
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Are you Bob Denverās alt account?
Who's that Sorry
Anyone knows about am advance tutorial?
You must be new to crypto. Everything follows Bitcoin, the market is going through a correction.
I agree
Finished? Not even started yet.
I understand Mate, but look at whats happening to the Price.
Now you can fill your bag
what a newbish thing to say. price fluctuates all the time. first time in crypto?
The lower ILV goes before the launch of OB the better (preferably without breaking key structure).
You should be paying more attention to the fundamentals, not the price.
I've never been more bullish on ILV than I am right now.
There's one hell of an opportunity brewing, you choose to take advantage of it or not, that's your prerogative.
NFA but retracements are for buying.
Just joined, what is the difference between Alpha and a mega disk? Should I start with disks or go straight for land
1 day old troll account. Is what it is.
Alpha is like 1st edition and has exclusive stamp on it
How would you spread a 10k spend in to this project?
cant really tell much about land, but i would hold much in ilv token and if you got time to read into beyond maybe thats for you too since there are weekly ilv rewards
Ok thanks for the info, much appreciated
I would buy $8500 worth of ILV and stake it once revenue distribution starts and use $1500 to buy one Tier 2 piece of land.
$10k into token and stake for 12 months
nfa
why would u wait until revdis starts? ok maybe SLP, still got decent apr
then swap to ILV
Gm
Ok, that's possible. I have long term commitments.
Morning
Most likely will focus on that and a quick land acquisition. I'm whaling in another project and trying to capitalize on other great projects as a good amount are being pushed this year. Just trying to catch the boom!
Tried the arena and like the approach, so I'll dive in a bit here.
Thanks for your time guys
good plan
land is more complicated so u might wanna ask around in #š®ćilluvium-zero
My thinking was if you need your capital for something you will have it instead of having it stuck in staking. Staking yield is low atm and ends soon so not worth locking up liquidity
I understand eth is the main currency for marketplace items. What utilities does ILV have in-game + out of game besides staking?
?token
ILV: 0x767fe9edc9e0df98e07454847909b5e959d7ca0e
ETH/ILV SLP: 0x6a091a3406e0073c3cd6340122143009adac0eda
sILV2: 0x7E77dCb127F99ECe88230a64Db8d595F31F1b068
ICCP-3 Revenue Distribution Decisions aimed to ensure sustainable revenue distribution for the long-term operation of the DAO, and to provide clear expectations for $ILV stakers. Future product proposals should adhere to the relevant distribution definitions.
Summary:
For products with negligible variable costs, 100% of revenue will be distributed.
For products with non-negligible variable costs, 100% of revenue minus variable costs will be distributed.
For more detailed information, please read the full ICCP: https://gov.illuvium.io/#/proposal/0x245e440c3b517a0b7a7ff11c2c038cfd96c503ab9cbf3e593bd8d7c73cd07fae
i never cash out and not planning to
ill be interent rich but homeless
If you really wanted to be a degen, you buy up SILV2 for the cheap and then swap it for ILV once SILV2 has utility š
nty
And you call yourself a degen?
Itās possible that this could happen some day. But thereās no proposal before the council at this point.
What's happening in governance @sonic dagger
When token pump you were promoting? Why did ilv take away the community event rewards for tournament?
anything u want us to talk about
might wanna ask scoriox
I asked you jag
ive discussed it with him, but idk much about tourney
not sure if its nda or not
not sure what u mean by taken away tho
afaik its been self funded plus some collab
Rewards are on pause from last governance team. They passed a proposal to get rewards for tournament. The community was hyped about it. Did like a month and then paused it.
Just wondering if you knew more than me
ive talked to the hosts
but ill bring it up in this meeting to see what i can share/not
fyi ive been pushing it to team aswell
just chill\
What is a good amount of ILV to have?
LOL
broad question
just curious what each of you think
I personally think it is nice to have 100 ILV
but that is a lot to ask
nobody can answer that haha.
Its what u see in the fundementals, and what amount of risk u attach to the project.
I am just asking personally speaking
yourself
not what you have
I feel like it is nice to have 100,000 USD in valuation
in the future
for a game like this
so for me if 1 ILV goes to $1,000 it would be nice
ILV Fully diluted Valuation now is 900 million
I guess if it is top game in Crypto now is worth around 2.5 billion
yep for sure.
started small when token was pricey, kept adding the entire bear market so ended up with de decent chunk
I guess if Illuvium is one of the top games it could be worth about $200 to $250 right now
I wanna have 100 ILV but not there yet
That would be nice. But some of us have the ilv hoping for the passive revdis. $0.80/month/ILV is my middle of the road expectation for revdis.
No, I do have 7 t1 plots and on the beyond leaderboard
the land is rly interesting aswell imo.
if the game rly takes off there is so much money to be made with them
oh okay.. cool interesting
If he has 7 of them, they can generate so much passive roubles
Plus it gives me 7 chances at finding rare blueprints
Oh and 4 of mine form a mega city
crazy
damn
i dont own any land, just token
I slipped out of top 50 rip
well.. I am not even top 100
I am happy with my collection
when is Wave 3
I ran out of money
I am living under a bridge right now
Should be start of Open Beta
jesus.. I hope they delay it till I have a boat load of money
it is being shipped right now in my dreams
No man wtf, we need game in q2
I want to playy
yeah..
true.. I am so board walking around on my own
why can't we play with multiple people at least 4
capture together
and kill animals
so we can be sued by peta
for killing illuvials
Man.. do you guys still stake in LP ?
or just stake direclty ILV
i still have stake in slp
Less than half my stake is in lp still.
it is bad to take out from LP I guess
impermenant loss
just keep it there and don't move
yeah depends on the demand...plus ILZ will be on mobile and will have wider reach than Overworld
Hmm well, if u want more ilv, its probably a good time, eth is running away from us so u should get a decent amount of ilv back if u unstake
Donāt see how it matters. The value is what the value is. Making it sometimes. Losing it sometimes. Impermanent loss is a boogie man.
you gain one. you lose one
LOL
if ETH increase to the moon we will get a ton of ILV
I mean if Iām down being on lp why wait for LP to bring me up if I think it will be better/faster up elsewhere.
My 1st slp stake is still going, its been out of vesting for more then a year now.
My 1st was march '22
my most recent is
restaking rewards
I guess there is no point staking now
since it will go past the final ILV distribution
if u stake now, its probably for setting yourself up for revdis, so probs just stake full ILV no more slp
Almost over?
Only if people dump more ILV into the eth/ILV pool. If thatās the case weād be better off holding eth separately and buying ILV at the lower eth price later. Thats the impermanent loss experience. Being better off holding separately. But hindsight does not change the current situation.
Stop
I am thinking when should we stop staking SLP and take it out
until the very end?
I forgot when is the last day for ILV distribution rewards for staking and SLP
yeah for sure
june 30th 2024
Wonder if thereās any plans when dex liquidity goes to 0. Once thereās no extra slp rewards donāt think the fees will be enough to entice people. Unless revdis is ass then maybe
What might a high end additional monthly volume of $20m do for fees? Thats like $700k daily extra volume.
Iām still in the boat I donāt think volume will outpace revdis returns. Sure you get the ilv value out of slp on revdis. Iām expecting a large drop in liquidity on sushi following June and possibly leading up. For sure if we somehow arenāt launched in June. You likely can write a program to see what revdis amount + volume makes slp a better choice but I donāt have the time for that. I might leave mine just because staking isnāt working for me and Iām too lazy to submit a ticket
whats the fee like
Staking bugs are annoying and gas costly . Usually takes extra claims and transactions to fix.
0.03%
Ah. So at the moment thatās around $0.01 per month for each dollar in the lp.
12% apr
Or am I crazy? Running made up numbers
That apr goes up with less than the $62m thatās in the pool today. But $20m volume each month sounds like a lot to me.
But thatās just added to the lp balance. No way to get that value without pulling liquidity. Unless thereās a way to get SUSHI rewards. But that cuts the apr to⦠maybe ā¦
Wait.
I missed a zero
Oh do I need to claim then stake is that the issue? I donāt mind paying gas fees but was going. To 1m lock some tokens I had lying around just in case revdis comes
Probably it would fix it. Claim pending ILV rewards for any ILV and SLP. Then do the actions you want.
It will go up as in youāll get a bigger share as people withdraw but once that becomes a large enough share to matter other people will notice and correct it to under valuation. Thatās keeping in mind if revdis sucks so will volume and token price so I donāt think low revdis affects the scale as much. Also Iāll claim then stake thanks
I saved up a little chunk just in case silv was worth the tax hit but Iāll just throw it into ilv and wait a year
$0.001 per month per dollar in lp.
1.2% apr
wow
That sounds about what Iām getting
how much does the treasury has in the pool?
Pretty sure. Itās actually worse than that. Because itās not actually 0.3% itās 0.25% because the other 0.05% goes to SUSHI masterchef pool
$8m or have pulled that out
Those numbers I made are for $20m volume each month. Itās currently $50m in the last month. So added volume could only do a little to increase the actual LP apr
So like 1.2% apr to 2% apr. Weak
I misread what you said anyway and miscalculated how much Iām getting per day so Iām wrong about all my numbers lol
I think regardless of the math it wont matter and SLP will have a lot of liquidity being pulled from it. no extra rewards so the risk to reward isn't as strong as it is right now. you're getting extra benefits for holding ILV and Eth and for some I'm sure that's the only reason they're holding it. We are going to see a lot of people go ILV only, and a lot of people fully exit as well. A lot of that depends on if we are launched. If we aren't launched, regardless if it's a soon (tm) situation, we likely will get hit heavy on the eth:ilv ratio
I'll be not lazy if we haven't launched yet and just full exit my slp position tbh then decide after if I re-enter
Does this cut off have negative implications for ilv
Makes staking slp less worthwhile not
Reduces the value proposition of staked tokens since theyāll stop getting yield farming rewards. But thereās also the reality of the slowdown of the increase to ILV token supply. So⦠pros and cons I guess.
@white sand D1sk Battle?
i got no disks or pictures at all
well they seem to have liked the idea of nfts, just wanted their own instead š
"Esports organization Team Liquid has partnered with Mysten Labs, the original creator of the Sui blockchain, to launch a new fan loyalty platform and NFT collectibles experience. Team Liquid, known for its presence in games like League of Legends and Counter-Strike, will revamp its fan loyalty program to reward supporters with points. The upcoming platform, scheduled for release in Q2 2024, will offer fans unique NFT collectibles to customize avatars representing Team Liquid's mascot, Blue. These collectibles will provide exclusive benefits such as discounts, event access, giveaways, and special interactions with players and teams. Team Liquid and Mysten Labs will collaborate on marketing initiatives, including content related to crypto games on Sui."
hello the NFts of Illuvium events that you can buy in Immutable are real?' is what they gave away as airdrop?
hello everybody,irly would liketo know how i can join ''overworld beta''. ( i used to be WoW player but i rly like the looks of this game.
also i started streaming on twitch and ofc wil stream the game also
all help welcome š
Message game supoort on site for code i think its still that way
Check the IlluviDex to confirm what NFTs are actually illuvium nfts.
Go to the website shared in #āāćsupport
Ask the chatbot for an overworld beta code
Wait to receive an email
It will probably take awhile. Like check for the email in a few days
If illuvials minting go live on chain with Public Beta, why not simply call it version 1.0 and then iterate from there with patches? Open beta doesn't feel great for marketing imo.
@red geyser thanks
@red geyser plz unmute @spiral acorn , got muted for the tags here: #1209995492113518633 message
Just noticed. Done
gm
Does anyone know when the project does a capital raise, like the recent one with Framework, where are the tokens being sold coming from?
DAO holdings I believe
was this earmarked before the public sale?
The dao holds enough tokens for these capital raises with vc's?
Have no issue with it, just curious how this is happening.
So the dao holdings is the treasury? Can anyone clear this up
Yeah this is the Treasury wallet currently: https://etherscan.io/address/0x58C37A622cdf8aCe54d8b25c58223f61d0d738aA
Once revenue distribution are flowing, the treasury also gains ILV from that though
Just to be clear so the tokens being sold for these capital raises is coming from the Treasury Holdings?
Yes. That happened. Treasury and remaining LAUNCHPAD allocations.
The remaining launchpad allocation was added to the treasury tokens.
Cool. So someone, I'll assume Kieran, submitted a proposal for the raise. Then did a specific council vote to approve it or was it a community wide vote?
Main Council approves it
That report is old. Sorry. Hereās the newest one. #š°ćtoken message
Just to let you guys know saw the recent overworld hunting video and thought it was very good. Convinced me to withdraw my slp, swap my eth for ilv and then restake all my ilv for revdis. Amazing job guys. You continue give me a lot of confidence on the project.
Also heard about a possible battle royale in overworld. that would be really cool š
Wait til you see what else is cooking
Honestly you guys are always surprising me with how much is going on and everything is super high quality which is a very good sign.
Gm
The Main Council approved the terms every step of the way
Kieran gives the main council as much info as is relevant
This is an amazing idea that Iāve thought about a time or two
Really hope they do something with it
How's everyone doing ?
Imma get wicked wings tomorrow
and snack box
God yes
oh god wicked wings dipped in gravy
link of the leaderboard plz
Always pinned in #š®ćilluvium-arena
Hi I am Harue from DMTP. Whom can I talk with regarding collaboration? Thank you
⤵ļøā¤µļøā¤µļø
Thank you for your interest in collaborating with Illuvium. To submit a collaboration request, please use the form available on our support page: http://link.illuvium.io/collab.
Anyone online and want to help me test something? If you get banned I can bring you back right away.
will i lose xp
Iām not sure I can use you for the test. Council is above my rank
I canāt mute or unmute you
So not a safe test subject for what I want to try out
Thank you!!
didnt know that. maybe battlecries?
He did ask me to just put him on timeout for a bitā¦
I tested the thing. Nothing happened. It wouldnāt let me do it.
Give it a shot on me
I'm game
Even tho I am council, try anyways
I can't find decks to try and play, can anyone recommend an updated page? The last ones I see are 70 days :c
There is usually a lot of people in their posting tyeams
Thanks ā¤ļø
or betty, it helps with my rank
@lusty mantle
where you at these days
am i still 2?
i dont think so
Internal chats dont count š¦
Ah at least its Peli that took me
Hi Mate did you end up sharing your Iluvium Zero spreadsheet from the "I uncover which Illuvium land tier produces the most fuel?" video ?
Haven't given it to anyone yet. Did the vid hit 100 likes?
Either way I'll add u. Remind me to send in like 2 hours
I barely post here
tyvm. Just looked mate your at 97 š¦
should i give him 1 more
@lusty mantle Frag is just super crazy how is this even possible
Working 14h / day for 2 years? š
We can all see in the numbers no Mod comes close to you š
Only because I quit š¤£
I got to 7th place in one year.
Almost at 33% š
Only 14h ?
Yeah that was my average
I do more hours but I am in a position of leadership
I have alot of people under me and I have to deal with alot of stuff
Yeah Iām talking about discord š
Do you have a link in community content?
I dont put them there
I like seeing if others do
Where can I find it. Id like to help you get to 100
Oh ok I was talking about my job at KFC
how many points i need to start wining money?
tyvm for the info.
I thought you are working for Illuvium? š
Not yet but I applied to be a moderator in here finger crossed I will be accepted
<@&814435151307866142> "This proposal establishes a transparent revenue-sharing mechanism, ensuring landowners receive a 5% share from digital product sales."
Really ???????
seems ALot different from ........
Step One: Player buys $100 worth of the Fuel token- Exchanging Currency (ETH) ->Fuel token
Step Two: Through Internal Process $5 is deposited into the landowner revenue pool
Unless I am misunderstanding something

This proposal clarifies what happens to digital purchases not using Fuel. Meaning, landholders will receive their share of those as well. But yes, landholders will receive 5% of ingame purchases.

Unless i am mistaken this is a huge pay increase which of course comes out of the "100% Revdis " ---- that was the oringnal going theme . Am i wrong in thinking this ?
Not a fan of this change but I guess the land owners were loud enough.
I dont think it is huge as the majority of income comes from fuel sales but still its a change.
Right now it basically boils down to landholders receiving their share of Illuvitars
which multiple people including yourself Aaron and Rahlord said they were not eligible for before the sale happed What Changed???
Yeah i remember the rules at the land sale. It has been communicated that landholders receive 5% of fuel sales. Its been very specific, people simply didnt really think about what it means.
That is why i decided to sell my land for more ilv. Ilv was a better deal by far
No one said they were ineligible, Beyond was released prior to fuel and so it wasn't included in the 5%. The argument is that it's a game and should have been included. Hence the IIP
Do you really want to stand vbehind that stement ?
@inner topaz I have been here for years I have trusted you @plain delta Grant I have defended this project . For what you stand for even when you bailed out the silv stuff . because it was fair .
Even when i have felt like I have no voice here no one that is of importance thinks I have don't have anything to contribute and completely disregard me perfect example not one person on the council left 1 piece of feed back on the document i prepared
Can you tell me that this is fair to the the stakers that were promised 100% revids back then ?
I'm not sure you understand the proposal. It is just to include any additional games that don't use fuel.
today i won 300 points
You are a Top G
putting aside the fact using fuel was the main point of landholder revenue .......which seem to have been lost . I understand the change it widens the net . which mean stakers have to pay for it . ( battle boards , skins that are not included in ilv , "power ups" and other micro transactional costs .
Seriosly all "5% share from digital product sales" <-------------- that is a wide net
remember this person ?
All of the things you listed are in-game transactions and included in the 5%. So I'm not sure what you're saying?
Did you read this at all?
@inner topaz you even corrected yourself
And all ingame purchases have to be made in fuel.
It's the Same wide net as it is in the old iip
that is the current narritive not the past one .
It's written in the iip
not getting into this again with you .
Ok
its as pointlessas talking to a wall'
I thought you were referring to this IIP https://snapshot.org/#/ilv-gov.eth/proposal/0xc4511bc3dadffcd3bcb617ea6b5fbeb8e0cf46c05f4805348f6fa87c601b8a0c
i am that iip[ changes the intent of IIP -20 it goes from Fuel realted purchase - ----> a 5% share from digital product sales. Can you not see t he differnce between t he 2?
Okay but you do realise that once fuel is live you will use it to purchase Illuvitars?
Which was always the intention
ok..
Thank you for the entertainment
No worries. I mean, I'm not sure if I'm being trolled at this point but either way I'd just like to point out that we're talking about a small amount of revenue in the scheme of things. Giving landholders their portion of Illuvitars purchases which we have stated is a game should be menial when compared to other in game revenue
Your not being trolled. Just og staker trying to express a concern. Thought that was what we do here
Would you say that, if possible to handle, all future ingame purchases are made in fuel?
it should be, except for promo d1sk maybe
to think about it, what about the next land sale, can we mint using fuel?
wen open beta?
For sure, no problems. Hopefully I have given you context
And that is why the IIP is required. Promo disks shouldn't be priced in Fuel, but landholders should receive their cut of the revenue
So much alpha the last few days this is insane!
guys I think that by claiming my staking I screwed up, I forgot that I had to go through sushi, there is no way to rectify this?
I have made one statement on this, so I know I have remained consistent.
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Landholders didn't get a share of Illuvitars because we didn't have fuel for transactions yet. It was simpler not to include those sales, and there was no promise landholders would benefit from them anyway.
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In my view, once we have fuel, Beyond sales, Land sales, etc., should count as in-game purchases, and landholders should be able to benefit by selling fuel.
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Just a heads-up, I'm not on the council, so this is just my take.
Hello everyone, my wife and I played on different accounts from the same PC, I received rewards, she doesnāt have any, what should I do?
Same PC won't matter. We only look at your account details. Did she meet all the requirements?
Yes, everything passed, 40 matches were played, 1376 points on the account, 555th in the ranking
Land sales š
I'm not saying we are having another sale. Not up to me. That's council. I don't think we will see one for a while. I'm saying that, conceptually, that's for the game it should be counted in my opinion. i.e. next sale you'd be purchasing with FUEL.
Check with our customer support guys so they can look into the issue. Does she have a wallet connected to her account?
Can you tell me where to look for them, but she has everything
lol no way thats his wife š¤£
Oh good! No, I didn't expect another land sale will be soon. This is just the first I've seen anyone at all mention that it could be using fuel when that time comes. Very intriguing thought!
you can also put the game in German
you can also put the game in Chinese? I can help with translation š
I never thought Iād see myself taking solars side in any and especially that argument but those rahlord receipts were damning
What is this about?
#š¬ćgeneral message. I was backreading from here
Discord is the easiest way to communicate over voice, video, and text. Chat, hang out, and stay close with your friends and communities.
Are the rewards already sent out
What rewards are you referring to?
Leaderboard
Ah cool , which one is it
huge win for landholders
u unstaked you SLP?
Do not trust any DMs.
So you donāt get scammed and lose stuff please Contact #āāćsupport through the illuvium website. Look for HELP(?) in the top menu.
The rewards get distributed about one week after the snapshot is taken. If you mean the #š®ćilluvium-arena leaderboard you can check the PINS in the #š®ćilluvium-arena channel
This walkthrough may cover what you need to do. #š„©ćstaking message
HOW IS EVERYONE DOING TODAY? š
GREAT!
HOW YOU DOING?
I TOOK HALF OF THE DAY OFF FROM WORK TO RUN SOME ERRANDS. IM JUST GLAD I DONT HAVE TO WORK AS MUCH TODAY UwU
SOUNDS GREAT!
AND NOW YOU IN DISCORD INSTEAD OF DOING THAT. EVEN BETTER!
Honestly I am the worst at procrastinating
that will be my new resolution this year
Looks more like you are pro in it tbh š
yeah unfortunately
im multitasking currently tho so were good
Playing Arena while also in discord? š
Bad I'm waging
what is waging
Working a job for wages
Oh good, I'm glad the founders have clarified for Solarstorm that his narrative about trying entrench land as the worst investment is history is wrong and was based on false convictions.
Mining fiat
Iām slightly confused. It seems like they said different things.
gm, is there a way to track revenue distribution
Yes. Thereās been no revenue distributions for well over a year.
Check pins in #š„©ćstaking
oh, why is that
Thereās been not enough revenue to be distributed
The last $5m in revenue was placed in the safety pool.
is 0x6bd2814426f9a6abaa427d2ad3fc898d2a57adc6 the safefy pool
I donāt think so. Iāll check
No. Thatās the vesting contract.
Check this burn report. #š°ćtoken message
Solar has been dissatisfied that land holders are likely to receive 5% revenue share (distributed via fuel sales) from all games, following the IIP clarification. They have been arguing that this was never advertised or intended - and that only revenue from fuel sales would count, so that if a game did not have fuel integrated due to technical limitations or oversight etc. then landholders shouldn't see any of it. From what I read just now, Kieran and Aaron have made it clear that, in their view, 5% revenue share from all games is and was always the proposition for land.
so would the next rev dis be when there is enough rev to be distributed?
is there any way to track that
I understand Solar believes this is a new development and that is is effectively taking away revenue from ILV stakers, but the founders comments prove this to be a false narrative.
Yes. Look for 500eth in the imx revenue wallet pinned in #š„©ćstaking
so when this reaches 500ETH there will be a rev dis?
how come it says no data on trade volume
They have posted at length about why they believe they knew from the very start that land was a vastly inferior investment compared to ILV, and I suspect that they are disturbed that they may not be able to so easily hold on to and demonstrate that notion.
Because that wallet does not trade. It just receives the fees
Yeah should be distributed when it hits 500eth
let's get that ecosystem out there and generate some revenue
Maybe. Or just that things change.
Seems likely
am i understanding this correctly: when it hits 500 ETH, it transfers them to the vault and buys ILV through sushi and then distributes all ILV to stakers?
Maybe, and to be honest the underlying fact is that it does divert revenue from ILV stakers. However, I believe this was always the intention in order to give land a use-case - it's not a new tactic being deployed to surreptitiously give more to land holders and less to ILV stakers - it's just a long overdue clarification and correction.
Again i hold to what i said . None of this is fact untill main council votes
i am disputing that as well.
Of course, and if the council does decline the IIP then I will make peace with it. I am just commenting on my belief that the founder's comments do hold a lot of weight - and I don't feel that what they're saying is a new stance on the topic.
gm
This will be manually processed. But yes.
Would you also dispute any attempt to use fuel for anything other than overworld travel in future? Because in order to maintain your position, I believe you would have to.
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Ok ok
i like council work
Im just glad someone does 
Waging lol, that's definitely how I'd describe my job too. Although if I didn't have to work to live, then maybe I would still do a couple of days a week, for society, you know.
At least until the AI robots can take over š¤
First of all thank you for replying . Unfortunately we are on opposite sides of the fence on this one. I hope you don't take offence to me diagreeing with you .
I had a big post but really tereis no point talking about it any more .
thanks, so are the ILV stakers earning anything right now?
no there is no reveune to earn from . The only thing we get is the tiny bit of yield left from staking - that runs out in end of June /2024 so you can surmise how much is left
Afaik as soon as safety pool is full revdis should continue as usual.
- so the last rev dis went to the safety pool instead of ILV stakers?
- is the 500 ETH buffer set by the gov proposal?
- i wrote a script and grabbed daily ETH inflow to the IMX wallet, looks like there are a lot of activities from march to june of 2023, what happened there
i cant post image here but it is on imugr with ID Ne3a7Uj
Has there been any update on why the Illuvium Medium isn't working? Some pages even say 'This account is under investigation or was found in violation of Medium Rules' 
- Yes
- If i remember right it started with IIP-29
(Got changed with an iccp if i remember right, but am on Phone and a hustle to Look it up)
Might be appropriate to at least remove it from #šćhelpful-links if it's not going to work again and is going to give such a dodgy impression?
hi, can anyone tell me why i should go with the lynx without an affinity over the one with an affinity? i mean a lynx with a class but no affinity, not the lnyx without affinity and class.
No if fact I proposed in that document the %5 be take out at time ofpurchase of fuel there for it ensures that the land owners always get the 5% and no one has to worry about individual purchases and makes it completely future proof as long as there a central place to buy fuel the land owners always get thier %5
Step One: Player buys $100 worth of the Fuel token- Exchanging Currency (ETH) ->Fuel token
Step Two: Through Internal Process $5 is deposited into the landowner revenue pool
When Step 1 and step 2 are completed the DAO though the process above, has fulfilled it
obligation to divert 5% of all token revenue sales to the Landholder revenue pool before the
player has even purchased any product or service.
The indisputable fact that the Landowner revenue pool gets its " 5% share" before the player
has had a chance to make any purchases of product or services further proves individual
product and service sales have nothing to do with the Landowners getting their 5%.
i am not the villain some try to make me out to be I am also not anti land anti land owner or annti landowner pay out
I am simply what seems to be the ONLY PERSON eft to Defend staker intrests as all the other OG like Rahlord have seem to disappear make sure 100% Revdis the stakers were Promised at the beginning does not keep getting chipped away at like it has already 2 x
Landowner revenue cant at the STAKERS expense
also: when i look at stats, the bullwark lynx has less health than the fighter lynx. he does less damage and has less attack speed. why is that?
he has 1 point more ressistances....
but weaker stats in everything
what do i miss?
i understand the less attack speed and damage
but not the less health part
#š®ćilluvium-arena would be the better Chanel to discuss this Kind of topic
But the lynx without affinity is s1 so should be cheaper to place and he is atm doing a good amount of dmg, especially for his costs. And if i remember right he is Buggy and does even more dmg
hm ok th you, ou yea im sorry, should have post it there!
@thin elbow youre helping me again š
You are fine, you most likely get a more detailed response to your questions in there š
If i'm not wrong he has atm a percentage of pure dmg in his autoattacks, thats why he is doing crazy dmg.
ok got ya @thin elbow ill discuss the rest there^^ th you brother š
whats not to like?
<@&814435151307866142> this comment is very much unexpected and somthing to consider during your deliberations.
I'm not a mathematician so I will probably show my ignorance here, but what you're describing is 5% of fuel sales and not 5% of in-game revenues. Now those things could be the same, but only if literally everything in-game was only sold for fuel, which of course, hasn't been the case and is probably never likely to be the definitive case? So your suggestion wouldn't satisfy the 5% in-game revenue share.
guys we are a dao, anything can be changed with an IIP
A new wall appeared š
It was NEVER intended for Landowners to get what IIP 45 or many land owners interpret as " all in game purchases"
I tried to get that clarified here
#š®ćilluvium-zero message
but of course that question was to "inconvenient" and was never answer by anyone on council or team
Rahlord if you are not aware was a member of the counsel that past IIP 20 So if anyone knows what the IIP means its him as they were involved inthe discussion before it was voted on
I honestly think your issue should be around how they define 'in-game' and not about the distinction between 5% fuel-sales and in-game share, as practically these should equate to the same thing.
Clearly Rahlord did not consider land sale or illuvitars to be 'in-game'
That's really all you can take from that quote
And the council may find in favour of that, based on that specific point in time - what is considered 'in-game' now can be very different to what was considered 'in-game' then.
Is there any attempt in the pending IIP to seek to apply it retrospectively to previous illuvitar sales?
The medium is dead. The posts were all migrated to the website. Look for NEWS
Thanks, remove from #šćhelpful-links then?
Just forwarded that good idea to someone that can take action
@past jay <@&814435151307866142> Sorry to keep pinging you but people keep telling me "I" am the one who doesn't understand and I feel i have to prove I do have an very good understanding of the subject matter to maintain creditbility.
@past jay #š¬ćgeneral message
Arash | Illuvimod ā 11/30/2021 5:10 AM
what you said was correct. whatever fuel sell happens in IZ, it goes to land owners (which is only about 5% cuz the rest goes to DAO). whatever ETH spend elsewhere (speeding up, travel, curing shard, making weapons or armors, whatever stuff bought in the market place, Leviathan Arena, Merchs, Movie, etc.) goes to all stakers
damn quote from 3 years ago, this is getting heat up
GM
this is always entertaining @sonic dagger am I right
Welp thatās not how curing shards or forging works. Those use fuel. So not the best mod quote. But hey you make your statement of your position clearly. Thereās not really a need to continue every discussion until you convince everyone or even anyone else.
General chat simply is not the best place to debate the finer points of governance proposals.
Oof. And in the time I take to write you are already on a break.
It comes down to a pretty simple point. If it was possible to use Fuel for Beyond, we'd do that. Fuel isn't ready to go to be used as a currency yet, there's some work that needs to be done to get us to that state.
So if the intention is to use Fuel, but we can't use Fuel, we need an interim solution. That's what the proposal is putting forward, a way to get landowners their 5% without Fuel sales until the Fuel system is ready to be used.
bit too late to argue about this, we have the thread for weeks
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1196516944124334100
I just enjoy the drama, I dont care about politics
SolarStorm does not seem to have the role to post there. Nor am I aware of him having asked to have anything posted there.
What single individuals said 3 years ago is less important than the big picture. We obviously have a clearer idea of how Illuvium's economy will work now that we're on the cusp of open beta, and Fuel systems have been clarified multiple times, our products have evolved, and will continue to do so. I don't think it's particularly helpful or enlightening to shackle ourselves to individual interpretations from 3 years ago, as compared to trying to find common sense solutions for problems that exist now.
oh well
IMC vote going in
land is great again?
not yet, check back in 3 months
is that a financial advice?
Or 4
absolutely
@unborn sail
where is the yield from staking coming from right now
yea well... Pointless anyways all this proves is playing the victim long enough and the team and council will come to your rescue
Staking yield was allocated at the start of the program - 3M tokens total, distributed over 3 years.
are the forging fees, revival fees, fusing fees in Overworld and tournament fees in Arena all paid in ETH?
What fees do people pay in the game? Is it all cosmetic or can you pay-to-win?
I don't have bandwidth right now to provide emotional support - You know how our governance systems work, you can create a post in #1020759212172775464 or #1126838877429182506 , if the community likes it, it'll get upvoted and can move through our processes. If it doesn't, it's not because everyone hates or disrespects you, it might just be that people don't like the idea.
You're allowed to feel that digital product sales is too broad, but that's how it's written in the proposal.
@pseudo flint i am not a fan of the 5% revdis for land owners, but i can see the problem.
in my mind the 5% will just be temporary until we find a better solution.
altho i hope when it swings the other way and we get into a system where fuel and other land features reap massive gains, lets see how land owners react then when the token holders feel left out.
in my eyes, its all part of the risk u take on the initial investment.
we all invested in uncertain products in the time we bought them, its been a clear choice to buy land, and i dont think its the community's job to find a fix for unsatisfied customers.
For all i know the airdrop they got, is already worth more then the revdis i recieved on my tokens so far.
In game costs will be paid using fuels, the in game currencies. Which can be purchased using eth. So kind of yes. Via fuel
In my eyes token holders in the future deserve 5% of the money made with a tournament on your land for example, u win some u lose some
thank you for all your help
Only tier 5 can host tournaments and the sale of those has been indefinitely postponed.
Sure, true just saying.
What if mega cities get a massive benefit from future features, whats in it for us then
And as i sed, the airdrop they got, is already worth more then the revdis we got on our tokens
Itās probably not really pay to win. You would probably need some specific assets in the game to be competitive though. But we will see how exactly it works out.
No one needs to pay anything at the moment. Not for #š®ćilluvium-arena and #š®ćilluvium-overworld
Once we start cross dipping the 2, there is no end to it, and there will be a grudge if one of the others reaps bigger gains.
what we gonna do when token holders start crying? just make a iip to steal some from land?
its just a bad thing to even start doing it, if land in the future makes for massive earning oppertunity, fair play to them they took the risk they should yield the rewards
Now, im sure a iip to counter it will be comming once its out of balance
There is no such thing as "stealing" going on.
Nothing really changes with iip-45, it just gets written down in a future proof way.
as long as we dont have revdis nothing changes true, nobody getting payed.
where will the 5% come from? is it just on top of the initial tax for revdis? or is it taken out of the tax collected for revdis?
so the only revenue to https://immutascan.io/address/0x9989818ae063f715a857925e419ba4b65b793d99 right now is the dex trading fees?
and does it mean we should expect an increase in revenue when the games are live
**5% eth pay out for land owners ** - NOT Revdis - Unlocked ILV --- big difference. Staking was an easy choice start
In the beginning it was simple - there was nothing to misunderstand or even think about
**Stake token Get 100% of ALL Revenue every single penny that come in will go to the stakers **
Then it was
hey lets give 5% of fuel related sales taken form the stakers and give them to this new think called ILVz ---lots of murmuring about that
People still were saying it was still 100% revdis jsut 5% shaved off of one income stream
Then it was oh we have to adjust because now we are offering physical products soo
Now ist - 5% and - associated costs - that at least makes some sense because associated costs are not " profit" and the cost to make physical product hasto come form somewhere
now its oohh btw we are changing the rules now the land owners get 5% of ensuring landowners receive a 5% share from digital product sales.
The worst part is now they are saying "this is the way we panned it" yet this is the fist time i herd of it and no one can point me to document that states where it was " planned"
The 19:1 fuel ratio?(as Long as it's possible to sell in fuel)
Maybe read the iip's related to that subject to better understand it
I thought the same to be honest.
I was under the impression that 100% rev dis goes to stakers.
Land owners make revenue through resource mining, which are sold into Overworld.
In game currency would be SILV2/ETH only.
Looks like that has all changed.
This was my understanding aswell
always made sense that the 2 where completely seperate products, with completely seperate utility and opportunities.
I agree. Very muddy now.
Yes. Because the games will produce revenue.
With most of the revenue coming from fuel sales I am not yet certain what exact wallet will be receiving the eth from the fuel sales. Since we have not yet seen any of those transactions happening yet.
idk bro, to me it feels like we should get 5% from fuel sales for token revdis pool.
Stakers get 95% from fuel sales
u mean the sale tax ment for revdis?
im sure when u are mining the fuel u earn on the fuel
Don't know what you mean? What tax?
What do you mean?
Hi
well, revdis is being payed from taxing ingame transactions right?
If a Land sells 1 fuel, dao sells 19 fuel.... That doesn't Change with the iip
how does selling fuel not fit into this
Not really.
Hello
well, ill go do some reading then
Revdis means every penny the DAO take in from ANY source goes to the stakers ---- % 5 Of fuels sales and assoicated cost for products wer e decducted from that and IIP 45 goes through --- that means anything that is a "digital product" the land owners get % 5 of it which is a potential huge pay raise for landowners and potential pay cut for stakers
I wrote some s tuff on it if your intrested #š®ćilluvium-zero message
What does the dominant trait do? Is it stat differences?
Well Fair enough, i guess the risk of 80% inflation on your land asset is risky
It impacts bonding with ranger, what composites your ranger would have.
And itās the dominant affinity that is used for the hyper system.
Thanks!
does this mean land basicly get a 5% cashback on the landsale ? š¤£
next one, yes
so stupid
maybe IIP revision need to be re-voted by the community
it changed a lot from the original
The increased demand for fuel to be used to buy land is a pretty good way to keep some value to lands as the supply increases. Unless itās a better idea to just airdrop any new lands to current land holders.
its okay tho, it is what it is, the 5head council will make well weighted judgement.
I like that, air drop me a mega city plz
whoa
Right?
95% or 2% of trading fees
im ranked 10 in discord wheres my airdrop
nah no way, this is toxic.
atleast give everyone a shot at a new round of land
get the DAO fuel supply by lands it owns. So DAO has to buy lands from the market.
Hey Solar, I think you have enough traction on this to go to feedback and ideas.
The discussion is kind of having the same effect as Battlecries the other day.
ICC used to be pretty active in helping people move big topics there, doesn't seem to be happening anymore.
He already went there
Long time ago....
What do you mean
He actually went all over the place with this topic
So he can again. Yes I know.
? What's unclear?
So many processes that were happening haven't been happening for a long time.
It helped conversation flow and clear the channels for other things. Maybe the system has changed?
I said that before you said he did it she's ago.
I noticed the conversation kept going after being asked to go there, so it didn't make sense.
Discord Chanel rules got way more open Long time ago, i guess so discussions still happen in this discord, and it's alive. In my experience as soon as the fiscussing Group got redirected to the right Chanel, the discussions was over and died.
Yeah I definitely see that happens too. I'm all for open communication, and I get the issue of breaking flow.
It's more about the same thing being discussed multiple times, across multiple channels.
Yet maybe it's just not necessary.
Just not sure how this looks to new people. Where is the space for them to communicate when everyone is having lengthy discussions about everything, especially things that have already been implemented and then questioned.
That also could be because not enough people cared about it.
Yea, totally agree.
So itās Time to mint the other 80k lands? 
They have to buy open market from existing. Pump my bags

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you mean 400% inflation...
Are customs typically quite buggy? Lots of delay between rounds
Good question for #š®ćilluvium-arena
lol
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Ledger Nano S wallet login does not work on Illuvidex Site. Error code 1000. Anyone has the same problem?
Absolutely no problems with disagreeing on things. You guys disagree with me all the time. Sometimes it ends up being what you want, sometimes me. And sometimes half the community want one thing and half the other.
One motivation is that certain purchases I think should be in āfuelā and others in āparticular fuel.
Letās say cryptons become expensive. If we have some items that can be bought with EITHER Cryptons or solons then in this case they will be bought in Solons. That will raise the price and maybe drop the price of Cryptons.
This balances the values of each fuel. We want fluctuations but we donāt want such big fluctuations. This really helps.
gang gang
Have you updated all the firmware on your ledger
yes I just checked
it's 2.1.0 (ledger nano S)
wallet drainer incoming
rip that guy
i was googling the error, not sure what exactly it is
yeah I cleared browser cache, restarted etc. logout login etc.
Never had this issue before
Have you tried disconnecting on Immutable Marketplace as well and logging in there
I will try
do you use multiple wallets on your ledger or just one
multiple
Yeah could be your logged into IMX somewhere with a diff walelt
same error on imx
logging out on IMX MP and Illuvidex and logging in can fix sometimes
So is the error on IMX flow
or metamask flow
I tried connecting two other IMX accounts I use regularly with Illuvidex with the same ledger and it worked fine
but this one account does not work :S
Poor Dick Rema
Be aware of scammers! Lots of caution has to be always in place when you have such troubles! š
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He was messing with him I believe
yes thanks:)
I was actually just trying to get info on how he wanted to scam me ^^
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yeah will do, thanks man!
@split lintel thanks for the video with tarren but i dont understand a bs, so u can add subtitles?
hello everyone
That Download thing is just 1h of Tarren telling Scoriox he knows but he can't say. I don't get that show š
Well if it was more than that I might be worried for TSG š
The whole 5% to landowners conversation is wild to me lol. Like, we're talking about a borderline insignificant sum in the short - mid term. Look how long it took for Illuvitars and trade volume to fill the safety pool.
And as a T3 landowner, who bought at mint, and didn't sell, I can tell you it's been excruciating to see that sum of money bring little to no returns when Staking that for the last billion months would have been immensely profitable in increasing my exposure to the ecosystem.
I cant purchase anything on token trove or marketplace
It says "imx conection is closed"
Code 5003 error
Even though I have suffisant fonds
Anyone can help )
It is written down in IIP-20 (granted, with potentially confusing references to the 'main game'), and was advertised in various videos as 'approximately 5% share of all in-game revenues'. IIP-45 is seeking to clarify how 'in-game revenues' shall be defined and applied, something which should have happened a long time ago obviously. It is not a new concept that this revenue would be diverted from RevDis - this was probably objected to at the time, prior to the land sale, but clearly it went ahead so the opportunity to oppose and stop it, as it seems is your intention, is gone.
It seems that the council is proposing in IIP-45-R to define 'in-game revenue' as 'digital product sales'. Something which you are clearly not in support of - so again I would suggest that the issue you should be taking forwards is with how they are attempting to define 'in-game revenue' and not with the overarching 5% of in-game revenues notion, as this quite frankly, is almost set in stone, and not even part of the current debate.
How do we watch a replay of our match
We can't yet.
Was intended to implement it in future. Also with Kind of a cinematic effect. The actual state of it is not known to the community as far as i know.
Contact #āāćsupport
You can also contact imx support on the imx support website.
Damn, I was gunna make a sick ass trailer for the tiktok challenge.
You could record it with obs or similar free software
gm
did the annoucnemnet abuot airdrop ejnd up being those gas tanks?
Fuel. Yes. Fuel crate nfts that will be able to be redeemed for fuel of the dollar amount displayed on the name of the fuel crate nft.
Okay imagine everything remained the same and this proposal didnāt exist, and someone wrote a new proposal saying Illuvitars should be priced in fuel as itās a game inside the ecosystem. Would that be what youāre arguing about? Whether itās a game or not? Or is it the idea that digital sales is too broad?
I donāt mind either way, but others feel strong about it hence the long debate that went on when the proposal was introduced. I think itās fair given we have previously said that landholders will receive 5% of ingame revenue and illuvitars is advertised a collection game.
To clear things up...
His take is;
Zero doesn't receive 5% of ingame revenue. Zero receives 5% of fuel sales and fuel is just used in Overworld and not for all ingame purchases.
That's why he thinks this is a Big pivot if this proposal gets approved
ok so how do spammers know my illuvium email when the only one knowing my email is illuvium
someones server or provider got wrecked
Don't forget stakers already got screwed because he expected 100% of merch revenue but they are losing out because it is net revenue (sorry screwed up first time)
I think he just got annoyed by that but thinks it's reasonable to change it to gross revenue if it comes to products like merch.
But maybe i missed some comments of him
The marketing vendor we used got hacked awhile ago
Itās quite annoying to see him keep looping what he think is right EVERYDAY. As many people, even Kieran and Aaron yesterday, have clarified to him. Itās time to move on.
Thereās some misinterpretation to the project, which can happen to anyone anytime, thatās fine. But it seems his pride canāt take it.
We ask questions, get answers, done. Let alone the ā5% of revenue go to landownersā was stated 2-3 years ago, I donāt understand whatās the point of making a fuss about it now. He rise argument in Zero channel and general channel. JUST MOVE ON.
Are you guys ready for the ilv tiktok challenge?
Hello. My friend's wallet got drained. He still got ILV staked using that wallet. Can someone help him pls.
The staking site has a button to change his deposit controlling wallet.
He should contact #āāćsupport if he does not understand how to find or use the button to run the function
When he checked it, its now empty. I thought it's not possible to withdraw staked ILV.
Unlocked ILV can be withdrawn. And the scammer could have run the same function.
Look.
So he's fucked?
Itās gone
He could make a report to the police and see if he could track funds until they go to a CEX and see if the CEX will freeze the account.
Itās a terrible long shot but itās the only option really.
And never input keys anywhere.
Not possible in the 3rd world country Iguess. Police officers be like " we can't recover your magic internet money".
yep, I only had handwriten keys
He would need some official looking document to try to get the CEX to take action. But yeah. Unlikely in many places.
What if the scammer try it on cex like bing, no kyc required? Can he still sell the token?
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I have no idea. Probably.
If CEX works then CEX works.
Considering he just noticed it now. It's been 8 days, so i think it's gone gone.
Can someone drain your wallet by connecting to a wrong website?
Yes
His wallet did not get drained in a single transaction. He gave his keys to someone. Someone has full wallet control.
so his ILV got stolen when they are in a hardware wallet?
I agree there is some ambiguity with IIP-20 but I think this line is pretty clear "The target will be for landowners to earn approximately 5% of the total revenue generated from in-game purchases in Illuvium."
The debate isn't whether land holders will receive revenue from ingame transactions that has already been approved. It's what is construed as "in-game revenue". In this case I believe we're talking about defining if Illuvium beyond is a game. My take is that it is a collection game inside the ecosystem, therefore should be included.
yes, fuel has always been the in-game currency and eth is for P2P transaction.
the IIP is accomodating for in-game transactions done without fuel
is not a pivot at all, it just clarifies IIP-20
let's say we are selling a limited-edition Pudgy Illuvial in ETH, because pudgy wants their split in eth. landholders should get 5% of that sale. the IIP accomodates that
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A bs?
English subtitles? Yeah I can try
Livestreams don't default add them for some reason
yo im telling u bc i want to see ur content but i leave bc its boring 4 me understand nothing
Okay so what language then?
chinese
Is zero going to be linked to the rest of games, like the overworld ? So we need to get fuel from zero to catch
Illuviums in overworld , so we can use units to play arena ?
If i got it right, i hope not, what about ppl who wanna spend their time playing autobattler, and wasting hours daily going in VR world chasing pokemons
And not* wasting hours
Ill see what I can do š I need an assistant at this poiny
So i am forced to buy zero land now ? So i can fuel my overworld to catch em, so i can bring them in arena to actually enjoy type of game that got me here š
Oh nice
I gotta choose if i spend tons of hours or money to play autobattler, for me, thats not problem i guess, but i hope we dont lose huge amount of audience
Do we have any clue, when is overworld and autochess coming in to a alpha main openning
?
open beta is planned for Q2
Open beta is now main launch right ?
Not*
So at launch of none beta version, we get all assets in overworld and zero reset ?
Is that planned for this year ?
The game should launch in the next 4 months.
anyone can enligthen me when can we buy and sell illuvials in the marketplace? would it be present in the q2 launch?
Yes. At launch.
damn crazyyyyyyy lets go! thats fireeeeeeeee
so marketplace will be launch on illuvials also this revenue distribution in marketplace / microtransactions will be implemented already during launch by q2?
When the delay was announced it was said to be early Q2 release. I'm guessing that was just a strat to make the delay more palatable though. It's going to be June 30th and that's if we're lucky š
NFTs traded on imx are always gonna produce some sort of revenue.
thank u man damn. if marketplace transactions be like axie like its gonna be fucking massive
Gotta change my username cause I be winning things
What the heck?
I am on a lucky streak
Gotta honour the magic I stole
@potent glacier u gonna enter a losing streak
since then team has been sharing few new things to be added. and we havent got PB4 yet, so
PB4 is near identical to launch
Yeah I've heard this. And it's not going to be a long beta either
i prefer we test pb4 for months
Heās stealing luck. So shady.
this will be on testnet?
yes
then yes, lots of testing there please
yea will be fhe first time we see all integrated
last thing we need after all this waiting is some blockchain issue taking the whole thing down
Nah you don't want the community to get burnt out on a near identical version of OB. A quick test to make sure everything is in working order and then shut it down.
how quick is quick
4weeks at most I would think
we have to see how buggy it is
i agree we need some balance between fast vs perfect
mavia launched with major bugs, and they patch the game like few times a week
It's a good point. As long as the team is very confident in the asset security
big time was exploited. an item that can be sold for token was duped
Was there much impact? What did they do to resolve this? I guess they're still running....maybe I just worry too much?
That's about my biggest fear right now
they only discovered because someone posted a video of some group exploiting it. a whistleblower
dev had no idea
whoa, lucky
Makes you wonder. I think Star Atlas really promotes that everything in game will be on-chain, if I recall correctly, maybe not such a bad idea
Must be way more dev though
theres a speed hack going in big time too
cmiiw, being on chain doesnt help with exploits
the blockchain is just a ledger
Easier to see/track down though, right?
its the server side that need to detect anomaly
if they exploiters are not greedy, they can get away with it for an extended period
anyway, people will still play the game tho
Idk New World had multiple dupes and it wrecked the economy on launch
I hope the council is asking the good, tough questions about risk mitigation related to these types of issues. Jag, you on this?
Hey, this Snake is tryin to impersonate RNGesus!
i havent bring this up to nick
most of the time ICC meetings are just council
and we discuss about topics raised from the community
right, you can request cc attendance too though as needed, right?
yea, this week we had with nick
i personally would wait until PB4 to raise concerns tho
makes sense, as launch gets close
Then hopefully they can answer what the biggest risks are, what they're doing to mitigate those, any contingency plans if something gets out, etc. I think holding them to thoes types of questions is important, but maybe more of an IMC role
yep
No the old RNGesus is trying to impersonate me!
THE NEW RNGESUS
When it goes live You can buy Illuvals from me from the illivudex š.
Good morning
@spiral acorn is working hard in the feedback section. š I see many contributions
Heyooooo! longtime no see everyone! what's new?
Can I speak to someone about partnerships? @inner topaz
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Thank you for your interest in collaborating with Illuvium. To submit a collaboration request, please use the form available on our support page: http://link.illuvium.io/collab.
Gm
- Mostly the wording Digital sales is too broad because it literally means EVERYTHING that is not Physical ( shirts hats stuffies etc) that is way to wide a door to open that i don't even think is relevent.
_ really NOT PLEASED with how " all in game sales is being used" -which is the END RESULT but the intent of
IIP -20 literally has nothing to do with individual purchases or products sales as the land owners are already "paid" before any purchase by the player happens
"quote"
They will do so by swapping fuels they generate in-game for ETH.
On the other side, players in Illuvium will exchange ETH for fuel* and
use it to complete all transactions in the game except for trading between players.
The target will be for landowners to earn approximately 5% of the total revenue generated
from in-game purchases in Illuvium." end quote"
- i am not a good artist but tried what i wrote in my document of how i think the process is supposed to work . Perhaps you can tell me if its wrong in my head.
What this shows is that land owners will ALWAYS get thier 5% as long as there is ALWAYS a demand for Fuel itself.
It does not matter how many games are released in the future if heart ablaze comes out an some how uses fuel in the game--- its already integrated they will get 5% atthe point of fuel sale
If Illuvium labs produce another 50 games that fuel - nothing "new " need to be done as above already applies they will get their 5% a the point of fuel sale when player buys fuel
Continued....
So Yes if beyond game out and was purchased for fuel - fine what ever I still don't think it applies as Illuvitar IIP came before land sale. So if beyond been developed before land sale happened landowners would have not receive any of it retroactively. but really again its secondary to above.
- also I don't believe that external stuff sold for ETH like power ups / other microtransactions were ever included as again the process is based around the production and sales of fuel as I understand it.
I see ILZ as a RETAIL sale - no different than buying a game off steam - It was mean to be a mini companion game there for should be the same classification as if somone bought a shirt or a Mug.
Landowners were only promised 2 things ( which is why i chose not to buy it as I was not interested in buying a limited access steam type game)
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The right to play on x number ( amount of land purchased) Limited edition plots ( 100 000 max)
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5% of fuel related sales ( $5 out of every $100 $50, 000 out of every 1 000 000) as how in in the picture and decried in the iip.
Slightly off topic below........
I also have grievances with DAO policy on dealing with the amount of landowner rants that start with " we should have votes, more %, etc etc etc" when it was **clearly **not intended and this should be communicated more clearly mods / team / council when such rants come up.
I think the dao always should have an open ear for everything in here even the repeated "rants" especially if it happens repeatedly, because it means you have somewhere in the community an unhappy fraction. Maybe justified, maybe not.
Also the IP and it's products are in developement, improvements (changes) can and should be done.
Stop those and you will See the ip slowly dying.
"Never Change a running System" sounds cool to say, but is basically a death sentence to said system.
This conversation should be taking place in an appropriate channel. Certainly not in #š¬ćgeneral
What's a more appropriate channel?
Somewhere where I don't have to see it š
Was actually thinking about pinging him in another channel, but there is none. I would literally have had to create a thread in #1020759212172775464 to answer the DAO policy thing
I asked Rich for a rants channel ages ago. He said it goes against the positive environment here to have such a thing. Shame really, seems like the perfect place for conversations like this.
But ser, i'm not ranting... Am i?
Nah not you man.
Valid concerns
Not saying they're not. Just not the place for it
Aah i See...
Maybe #šćbot-commands would have been appropriate š
nice drawing
Im too stoopid to read it š
I See 100$ coming in and magically doubles to 200$ and then get split up between 3 groups.
And i'm like; wow need to understand how, but i can't
the diagram is incorrect
Not just the diagram š
there i fixed it
Is this a Dino Duck?
yes?
There's General Governance in the #1024051993402155118
Wrong person to reply to, sry Fubar š
Right... I think General Governance should be taken out of that forum and not hidden in there. But probably just me. š
can you forge any tier weapons and armor even from tier 0 runs if you have the fuel?
also how do the cordonites work for land, will there be land in blank black spaces?
and how do mega sities work?
Governance should have an own discord server. gamer don“t want to see this in a Game Discord server
what constitutes a mega city?
Maybe.
But i feel most gamers aren't on the Games discord anyways.
No, you need other Materials from higher Stage runs
ya could be true. i am not an any discord server from a web2 game š
Don't know what this question really means š
Megacities are multiple plots Next to each other, either in a 2x2 square or 3x3 square, "forged" together to not really but 1 Big plot
Yea me neither
I am for genshin and star rail, but mostly for news etc. wouldn“t wanna interact with people 
was hard to get into star rail server, it was almost always at 1mil cap
A plot with at least 4 plots all next to each other forming a square
has it be confirmed by the team pb4 is coming in q1?
no
No i have stacked sushilp
Thanks
No but fingers crossed cause it would be nice to have that time to use testnet
And maybe I also just want to play overworld with nft integration asap
š
exactly my thoughts as well.
ok thanks
thanks
Heyy, this is a scam right..?
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yes its a scam
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Yes, empty space on the map will be where the remaining 80k land plots are located, once those land sales happen down the road
@serglotz @beaniemaxi Do not attribute malice to stupidity...
dude is plain dumb...
61 weekly players
GTFO with that shit
Anyone know anything about this?
scam
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don“t interact with it.
Hi guys is there a way to change the keyboard settings in overwold ? (I have french one lol)
Yes, in the settings
yes!
gm
If we break down here - I will admit I was finally wrong about the ILV coin movements - 15% is the max threshold imo
Spot and strong tho obvi
Does anyone know who AudriusM is? He has a landplot that is interesting...
Could post it in #šćland-dex
I think some people have had issues with this. I can't see the French channel for some reason yet maybe you could ask there?
Hi @near pier do I need to select the different language channels to be able to see them?
Lol. I hate how it doesn't separate posts.
#1023944295583076352 you should be able to See it in there
Yeah you should
On top
You can select the channels you want to see
Ahhh lol I was trying to get the French one.
Ohh that's so handy!
You can get a Code if you ask the bot in #āāćsupport
Do I need to look for it on the website?
7dff6978-865f-47e3-9713-61e6e4643188
try that
Thanks, I'll try
Hey how's it going Sidx. Nice to see Golden Tides people here ā¤ļø
You download the game here https://link.illuvium.io/Mozeen
Hey ! They say there is a very interesting open mode here that has interested many people! š
Ok thank you š
np, enjoy!
you should check out the latest Illuvium video of overworld too....big changes coming
Indeed. Lots of here can help you out with learning the ropes.
I really liked playing Golden Tides.
So I'm just in time š
Definitely. Launch expected Q2 and they don't put out any in-game advantages to people who have been here early
Well, it's great that they can help! Also, some interesting changes to our game are coming soon!
Is there a way to remove it from imx wallet?
What a role for the green color!!! š¤Ø
We will all be in equal conditions! Our skills will decide our fate!
@plain delta When do you think we will get to see the new game mode for Arena?
discord lvl 5 - ranger
How long does it take for level 5
not long
it's just from chatting, you can check your level in #šćbot-commands
Nice š
Has there been any indication as to when in Q2 the OB launch will be? Like April or more like late June?
LMFAO hey there Rickytan 78... first you steal my luck š... now you're stealing my name š
Get that untanned Ricky @split lintel lol
hello!
Love the name Ricardo!
Can someone explain to me how the scoring system works, because sometimes it gives you very few points in ladder and sometimes a lot?
Lol Rickyuntanned77?
I know if you lose every match you really tank in the Elos...
Someone in #š®ćilluvium-arena might be able to help š
Just found out Tony Robbins has a stake in Team.Liquid š¤Æ
Did Kyle quit now too?
Ffffffuck
Houston we have several problems
@split lintel what's this username
And last but not least, @open leaf did Scoriox win the Ramphy or wot
You tag the wrong one?! š
Hey crystal š
Houston will be ok
Is scoriox impersonating you ser @potent glacier
Does anyone have an access code so I can play overworld?
Yup - he stole all my luck... now stealing my name...
Next he will try stealing my wife š lol
All you need to do is head to the support page #āāćsupport and there is a bot in bottom right hand corner you can request a code. Takes about 5 mins
This game is so laggy
No set times. I just go with it will be within that time.
Are you playing OW or Arena?
Hello I got an email about minting Visit Illuvium Beta Access Page and connect your main wallet.
Claim your Illuvials.
Download the beta version of Illuvium.
is this legit?
Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.
Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.
Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.
scam
Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.
Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.
Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.
alright thanks , had me excited for a moment though but glad I did some digging about it
yeah better to be sure
Yeah always check our officials mediums
Hey all, creating a new metamask wallet. How do I move my account that has staked ilv to the new metamask wallet? My metamask got hacked and I lost some ethā¦
Time to spend a big 50$ on a trezor hardware wallet, thank me later.
there is an option to change wallet
Yes that makes a lot of sense. But I had some eth that I was moving around that I lost.
I donāt see a change wallet but I do see a disconnect walletā¦
Yes I am.
Ahhh I was checking on my connected new metamask wallet. I check on my old metamask wallet and see the option to change wallets. But alittle scared to try it
Say only locked can be transferred. What about unlocked staked ilv? Wondering if I have to claim the unlocked covert and send
i forgot about this
I thought "Netflix" had release the trailer ...check out the "Dune" movie trailer ...it even got the Trex roar and the Bull and ranger statue š
set in chrimson waste š
Not sure exactly.

