🎮〕illuvium-arena

[grand bluff]

Thanks!

[sacred finch]

If someone gets a better rank than me and change his name for Grimaldi2, I won't get my rewards? 👀

[brazen quarry]

Oh man this is even better than getting rewards myself, thanks for the idea!

[cyan olive]

I didn’t think about that either 👀

[civic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/mojo-jojo-evil-touched-most-evil-thing-him-gif-13509705

[cyan olive]

I believe the Team can check name changes btw, so if this happens, you can report it to support.

[serene lance]

I just got an email saying Season 1 arena has started and rewards are live, but you are saying here that the patch is not live?

Surely the major patch would go live with 'Season 1' right?

[cyan olive]

I think nick explained to that above

Just woke up and been backreading myself

[zenith mortar]

Patch is expected asap

But with rating restart, the snapshot will be next week

and patch will surely be out by then, **as long as things go smoothly **.

[west quartz]

imagine web3 renaming "fu_viper" and sweeping rewards hahahahahaha

[zenith mortar]

We can check unique ids

[sacred finch]

We need to put names especifically like Grimaldi1, Grimaldi2 or similar variations like 0xGrimaldi, GrimaPlay and Grimaldi Again are ok?

[zenith mortar]

Example: Porklamington, Porklamington1, Porklamington2]

[gritty wren]

Do we know wen patch and wen soft reset

[cyan olive]

so I can´t do TTV-Viper_ilv, YT-Viper_ilv, X-Viper_ilv etc?

[cyan olive]

reset was already

[brazen quarry]

patch

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[cyan olive]

I hope monday, too lazy to play new teams for tourneys tmr

[uncut comet]

do i need to rename my smurfs to have "Neferpitou" in it like my main account?

[west quartz]

i'd consider meruem and pufu fair smurf names 😄

[uncut comet]

haha close one smurf is HunterHunter and the other ChrolloLucilfer

[vivid stirrup]

Not many sign-ups yet for the funscendant arena tournament #2 yet.
is everybody still crafting their 2x unique, no augments teams? 🤔

looks like it will be easy to get into the money with the small player base! $600 bucks on the line!

https://twitter.com/illuvination/status/1749787435855184057

illuvination ♊️ Phantom 🥷 (@illuvination) on X

The Funscendant Arena Tournament #2 Sign-Ups are officially OPEN!

• $600 Prizepool sponsored by @illuviumio and @Phantom_ilv
• Swiss + Conquest Format, submit your own 2 unique Decks, without Augments
• Everyone who signed up will receive an Illuvium Beyond D1sk from…

Twitter · Jan 23, 2024, 1:33 PM

[west quartz]

can we make the leaderboard easier to access on the website ? it's not very intuitive to find imo and people are gonna start looking at it way more often

[lean ivy]

.Ya waiting to see if patch will be live or not

[cyan olive]

you can sign up and fill out gform later as well

[dark vine]

I just can't see why you would start a season and patch a day after...

sometimes.

[cyan olive]

everyone says patch friday, is that confirmed anywhere?

[uncut comet]

huh thanks for rank 1 ❤️

[cyan olive]

I will come at you later today

[sacred finch]

3 am in Brazil

[dark vine]

no, but still.. even if it is on monday

[sacred finch]

No, team said "the soonest is friday" but not confirmed

[cyan olive]

tbh, I thought I wasn´t gonna play until patch, now I have a reason, so maybe smart move^^

idk if I have to rename all accounts, or if accounts without wallets don´t qualify anyways, then I wouldn´t have to care

[vivid stirrup]

go to bed at 8pm, sleep for 7 hours, win the tournament, earn 250 bucks. ez money ez life 😛

[uncut comet]

haha np i think i would be like 2k+ without bug and 1st game lose cause i didnt warm up on smurf

[cyan olive]

hey @stray gull sry for the tag, but is the ranking for rewards going to be exclude accounts without wallet, exclude smurf, then look at top 1k?

[uncut comet]

cause that first game took my like 120+ points

[cyan olive]

uff first game lose is rough, gotta highroll the start

how many games are +100ish?

[uncut comet]

think the first 2

[edgy flower]

@cyan olive I tried to ask, no1 reply 😦

[cyan olive]

so I win 2 and am 1800 ok

[uncut comet]

maybe only the first if opponent low

[cyan olive]

[cyan olive]

I hope I que into rank 1 for +200 then

[uncut comet]

haha i will que when u have even points to scarry otherwise

[cyan olive]

now my plan is ruined

[warm rivet]

game is fcking cancer again thanks to the tsunami enchanter deck . cant wait for patch

[uncut comet]

for me kinda looks like enchanter still strong after patch pure damage didnt got nerfed only shield a little bit and radius and i think 10 range for the big kukkulus is still enough

[warm rivet]

Yeah kinda, tsunami got big nerf thoe

[uncut comet]

yeah tsunami but i had one variant in mind without tsunami maybe will work

[worn tree]

Not at all. Next patch enchanter is gone 100%.

[uncut comet]

the bird had no mana reg anyway and if u get ranger to cast alot its the same

[warm rivet]

GOD i hope youre right, cant stand ladder anymore since EVERYONE gives in to free MMR playing that deck

[worn tree]

Reason here:

[high snow]

@cyan olive do you stream today?

[worldly cedar]

Hey guys, is there guide for beginners? How to get into game, how much money do you need, how to progress? etc.

[uncut comet]

viper and web3tvgaming on youtube

and atm its for free until public beta

[worldly cedar]

thanks, will check it out

[cyan olive]

yeah later today, slept long and just making dinner atm

[pastel estuary]

seriously? top 51-100 receives 0.3 ilv = ~ 25$?

[brazen quarry]

too much?

[high snow]

Nice! Looking forward to it. Need to learn some pro strategies 😁

[cyan olive]

100$/month seems nice

[worn tree]

It's been an honor fellas:

[worn tree]

5 mirror matches in last 5 games hahahaha cant wait for next patch

so far 100% winrate, let's see for how long

[silver merlin]

will there be resets each week or how often?

[dull wind]

tsunami enchanter?

[worn tree]

Rank1 vs Rank2 lol:D

[granite osprey]

sear cost 90 useless by stun

[reef basalt]

Yep. It's omega gets negated so easily 😞

[long garnet]

Hello everyone, can someone share a playable deck?

[uncut comet]

uff thanks you sir 🙂

[olive hedge]

check out web3tvgaming on youtube, he shows good decks

[manic musk]

Hey guys is the patch already on or not?

[elder ore]

nope

[manic musk]

thanks

[supple beacon]

Was this answered?

[brazen quarry]

He let you get lights chosen?

[wind otter]

Do we have a real time leaderboard?

[frosty canyon]

Hi, with multiple accs…. Will rewards be based off the highest ranked acc you have on the leaderboards or based off which one you name your primary acc?

[worn tree]

Yes, but in that matchup enchanter composite is better

Ok, last 10 games mirror match

we need the fucking update ASAP

[naive mantle]

Is 1111 the default starting rank now?

[silver merlin]

i thought the update was live?

[brazen quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[silver merlin]

did they soft reset without new patch?

[brazen quarry]

Yes

[silver merlin]

then what is the point of the reset if there is no new patch?

[brazen quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-25269231

[cyan olive]

I like it, reason to play

[junior geyser]

is it 25 games after account creation or after rank reset?

[west plume]

What build puts me in top 3? Kids need to eat

[echo yew]

you already know the answer

[west plume]

Clearly I don't as I am not in the top 3

[worn tree]

Hahahahhaa

[worldly jolt]

ARENA RANKED ASCENDANT LEADERBOARD

https://arena.illuvium.io/leaderboard?activeTab=ascendant

It was not exactly easy for me to find on the website.

[wicked cloak]

is the new patch out?

[brazen quarry]

[wind otter]

Tnx man! 👍

[limber stratus]

what would that be for?

[worldly jolt]

What are you wondering about exactly? There are going to be rewards for playing #🎮〕illuvium-arena well enough to be on the top of the leaderboard

[limber stratus]

Oh thanks

[plush cobalt]

Is it 25 games in general or since the new announcement came??

[worldly jolt]

Just read through the article. It seems to me like it says 25 games on your account. But says nothing in regards to the announcement. So be sure to have played 25 ranked games on the account. And 15 ranked games that week

[plush cobalt]

ok thanks for the information

[worldly jolt]

@zenith mortar will probably confirm for me. And give me a snapshot timestamp eventually.

[worldly token]

did tsunami not get patched? And the gauntlet? I thought the patch notes said that. Or am I mistaken?

[zenith mortar]

Patch isnt live yet

[worldly token]

holy ... I was building new teams etc. and lost all the way to tsunami again.. wondering what I do wrong.
what a start for the leaderboard...

do we know when the patch hits?

[brazen quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[zenith mortar]

Not exactly yet...

[brazen quarry]

Not soon?

[zenith mortar]

I mean soon is relative

[static steeple]

2025 is soon compared to 2045

[mighty tulip]

Think I'll wait until the patch drops. Looking forward to the grind though. It's been a while since I last played

[brazen quarry]

Tomorrow it is

[civic grotto]

Forward looking to it, I am

[worldly jolt]

Currently ranked 5767. It’s time to climb.

https://tenor.com/view/skiing-high-mountain-ski-glide-slide-gif-15418365

FYI about the timing of the weekly arena rewards snapshots…

Rewards Snapshots

The snapshots happen the same time as the #🎮〕illuvium-beyond leaderboard snapshot each week at

<t:1710374400:F>
(thanks to discord’s dynamic timestamps the time displayed here is localized for each user, though the date and month displayed here will not be updated as we continue. Except when updated daylight savings time changes. Beware of the upcoming fall backwards in November.)

[echo yew]

The amount of tsunami enchanter 🤣🤣🤣 to think ppl were defending it

[cursive echo]

@vivid stirrup 😭

[vivid stirrup]

i wish the numbers were swapped bruh

[cyan olive]

gj don´t let zodd take my #1

[limber scroll]

sorry but i have so many bugs right now. only 1 gold at the start, can´t set augments or wapons some time.

[warm rivet]

lost 5 in a row vs tsunami enchanter, BLEH, cancer deck:( not playing untill patch comes live haha. cant stand it

[limber scroll]

my synalph shots in the ground sometimes.

[cyan olive]

synalph aims furthest unit, if that dies shoots ground after

[limber scroll]

is it a bug or why is that?

[brazen quarry]

That's fixed in the patch, it's in the patch notes 😏

[cyan olive]

idk if it is supposed to retarget or not

[limber scroll]

leadboard should have come with the patch. not now.

ya not gonna play again. this is not a fair game right now.

[summer frigate]

Patch tomorrow?

[cursive echo]

why don't I get the 106 points @vivid stirrup

[cyan olive]

paz is cheating, make a ticket

[cursive echo]

I'm enjoying playing my favorite Arcanite team one last time before the update

[cyan olive]

[cyan olive]

[ancient solstice]

Hello everyone, how to download a game without epic games? and now it gives an error!

[frail mural]

That bug causing the game to freeze at round start.... ffs

[wicked cloak]

is there a link to the leaderboards/

[wicked cloak]

why not just get epic games?

[worldly jolt]

You can’t

[worldly jolt]

I just pinned it

[wicked cloak]

thank you good sir

[late lagoon]

damn u 😄

[cursive echo]

this my last game I sweated too much

gg @late lagoon

[west plume]

holy shiskebab i got rekt on my first match

[alpine dagger]

Is this leaderboard rewards calculated for weeky drop? Or how does it work?

[gritty wren]

yes

[alpine dagger]

Is there exact time of weeky drop?

[plush cobalt]

from silver to iron in 30 minutes

[gritty wren]

first weekly snapshot begins on January 31st, 2024, at 00:00 UTC

[worn tree]

How did UAT go? Any plans for tomorrow? 😏

@stray gull

[cursive echo]

M. A. J.?

[alpine dagger]

Any active turnaments that we can sign in ?

[cloud flax]

i rally dont know now what Team to play xD

[lost wyvern]

the fight didn't start....the same issue

[sand fable]

first games taking -200 and the few win are +30 that's a bit though

[tribal glade]

Check out events in discord (top left)

[alpine dagger]

What is reward for survival arena challenge ? Only toop10 get rewards or how does that work

[bronze spire]

Don’t think there is any for survival mode

[alpine dagger]

Competing for n1 daily on survival has no value ? Xd

[umbral oracle]

This is not correct. As per the blog post it's your main account

[burnt urchin]

How will we be able to differentiate main from alt?

[turbid osprey]

May we know what defines main account? Most games played?

[lost wyvern]

issue to find an opponent....or isn't players on my rank

[stray gull]

Yeah it may be a slightly longer wait I'd think

[supple beacon]

I think its your main account that gets the reward, but your highest account rating that counts.

That would be ideal

[umbral oracle]

Username:
Main: Porklamington
Secondary: Porklamington1 (or some other variation)

[gritty wren]

Wen new emotes

[sacred finch]

So at the end of the week we should rename the best ranked one to be the main account?
Would be better if we always get the rewards on the best ranked one

[umbral oracle]

We are monitoring these things

[umbral oracle]

The intention is for you to have one account that goes for the rewards. It is fine for you to practise using multiple accounts but you can't get on a lucky streak and then say "Actually I choose this account this week"

[olive hedge]

bugs in the first 2 games after patch, lost connection and mastery point bug

[woven flint]

in next patch are these 2 bug fixed, cause I didn t see it in patch note :

• free rebound when removing and replacing same unit
• at the moment augment like "reduce resistances" are not working

[supple beacon]

Patch is not live yet

[olive hedge]

Ah ok thanks

[tight bluff]

How's the post patch impressions

[stray gull]

Patch hasn't made it to Prod as yet.

[keen moth]

Do we know when it's coming?

[edgy flower]

Resistances aug will not be fixed in the upcoming patch, about free bond idk

[hot pond]

The bonus mastery points for rebound is so unfair and dumb. Definitely needs to be addressed asap

[brisk flint]

hello someone can explain me how to rebound the character in arena when its frist bound is on?

[hot pond]

You need to remove the illuvial from the board

[brisk flint]

oh okay thanks

[wind otter]

A lot of crashes now happening on rank

I have already send a report

[eager portal]

What damage is the pure damage from thorns calculated from?

[warped ocean]

lmfao ive played against the same team 10x+ in a row

everyone using the same meta, with berserker

i really feel like there needs to be a TFT style implementation where you dont just go in with a set meta team every time

maybe things change with more illuvials but for now its just constantly same meta over and over

[brisk flint]

Yeah feel you, i only play vs Enchanter or ape combo .. and also had some crashes in ranked.

[granite osprey]

next patch people use same dack this game is not TFT

[cursive echo]

I can have the total number of matches of the week ?

[edgy flower]

If it will be 3-4 Or more working ~equal decks, then it's cool, if it's a tsunami chanter everywhere then something goes wrong

[static crane]

"Starting this patch, we are introducing the Augment Limitation feature, meaning that only one Augment per line can be added to the team via Team Builder."

It means we can't use 2-3 same augments now in our team on Arena? Like we can add in teambuilder only 1 augment of 3 stages any augment?

Nice features about Augments btw, great job ❤️

[edgy flower]

@lilac bear hello, sorry for bothering, but be cool to know if we can expect a patch today or no 🙂

[cursive echo]

smart thank you I win my top 2

[cyan olive]

He isn’t here zodd

[worn tree]

Brother, its early access, shits are unbalanced. Of course there will be a hardcore meta until proper balance isnt added.

Next patch will help a lot towards more game variability. Just wait and see, and compare apples with apples. First TFT set had noxus as super OP and everyone was playing them. You cant expect an early access game to have same balancing quality as a long consolidated game.

[warped ocean]

love this game btw just want to see it be the best and succeed

i have to give my opinion/insight

[iron kayak]

When patch?

[lean junco]

i agree we need some kind of Rng

[topaz lake]

yes, that's correct

[worn tree]

Why did he leave?

[cyan olive]

I can´t speak for him, but something along the lines of talking to noobs makes him toxic or so

[jagged summit]

I still like the idea of expanded deck slots, seeing opponents deck and then self banning several illuvials and or augments. Bit of randomness because you don’t know what opponent will use and hopefully shakes up matchups especially as overall balancing progresses

[worn tree]

Lol, he ain't doing that well tbh

[worn tree]

Extended decks and ban round before game would be so fucking sick. I would love that

Recently tho, the game is working so fucking bad for me. A tone of disconnects in game that make me lose rounds

[calm steeple]

ban round would not probably work, imagine buying whatever is mega OP illuvial at the time for 1000 ILV and your opponents keep bannning it

[worn tree]

For 1000ILV it better be a good shit of an Illuvial

[keen moth]

Things will also change dramatically, especially outside of the leaderboard where most players are, when you have to actually go catch these Illuvials and it takes time to build up your team, and you can't just switch to the latest maxxed out meta team with the click of a few buttons.

[jagged summit]

This is why i want to do self bans instead of opponent bans. It can go faster too

Though no illuvial will cost you more than a few dollars to $20 tops if you just need one and aren’t worrying about ivs/evs

I hope at least

[calm steeple]

Im just making a point, if you buy something expensive and other people can prevent you from playing it, people will be pissed, bans only work if everyone is on equal footing

[mighty tulip]

What about each player having to bring three decks into a match. The opponent then picks what deck you play.

There's lots of issues with this idea but it could work.

[calm steeple]

I then could bring 3 same decks with minor variations

[jagged summit]

Can’t make everyone happy. Point is to have options anyways though.

With proper balancing people wont ban your expensive illuvial just because they know it goes for a lot of money

[calm steeple]

one would assume that expensive illuvials will be powerful, hence the high price tag

[mighty tulip]

Yep, and if you restrict the amount of times you can use an illuvial across the three decks you're then expecting people to have enough illuvials to fill three decks before playing arena.

Like I say, there's issues but giving the opponent control of decisions that effect you could be interesting. More mind games

[echo yew]

can anyone run a quick casual with me? looking to tests a new team for next patch

[jagged summit]

Sure t4 and t5 late game powerhouses, though that’s where you set your deck up properly to handle not using certain units. Again though, if you see their deck and make the bans yourself, your prized unit won’t be banned unless you decide it yourself.

[worn tree]

This is disgusting 😭 I can't play like this guys. I get this error 1 out of 3 games and its insta loss for me

I lose rounds for free every time

I couldnt see a fucking round take place in the entire game

[lean junco]

in leviathan arena ?

[sour silo]

from where is everyone getting the meta arena decks?

[tough flume]

youtube

[worldly jolt]

The only top tier kind that I’ll be selling.

[worn tree]

🥂

[frigid turret]

Is warp wave buged? lost a match because it didn't trigger.

[manic musk]

When the patch will be on?

[inner orbit]

Its already being tested, should be comming up soon if there are no big issues

[supple beacon]

Soon doesn't mean anything, everything is soon according to this channel 😂

[inner orbit]

They were aiming for today to be patch day, so it might actually be comming soon (today)

[worn tree]

My cow was chilling as fuck:

[sand fable]

it's me or the team builder website is unusable ? Like any modif it load endlessly and i have to reload the page

[stray gull]

Regarding the patch, we're resolving some issues in UAT unfortunately

[echo yew]

Tragic

[edgy flower]

means it will be later today or next week?

[alpine dagger]

Waiting for opponents for way 2 long in game , waiting for last round to happen, if enemy is losing game , they just disconnect . If i leave game after 10 mins, i lose rating

So sad

How can i prevent this from happening, stay in game for hours ?

Thej what

Then

[proven ember]

will not be today

[edgy flower]

thx for letting us know

[echo yew]

Was so excited. I've concocted something diabolical

[junior geyser]

wen reset.. again

[worn tree]

Chances for tomorrow? Or are we moving to next week?

[cursive echo]

haha you want to play your new team

[alpine dagger]

Is healing debuff aplied to shield effects?

[woven flint]

no

[west quartz]

I don’t think they work during the weekend people are still allowed some days off 😂

[alpine dagger]

Is there on in game income interest of points used to buy units ?

[west quartz]

Not in pvp

[worn tree]

I want to stop playing vs same decks over and over tbh, and yeah, be able to play new stuff. Meta is so limited and boring now.

[worn tree]

Damn it 🤣 a well deserved weekend tho. Hope we have it by monday. Although I wouldnt be surprised they pull a saturday surprise? 😏

[junior geyser]

im not a praying man but... PLS god

[stray gull]

I'm following up with the guys this morning, this is a significant update that touches Team Builder, Arena and Overworld (given Overworld relies on Arena).

Thorough regression testing is required

[alpine dagger]

Ranked should be PVE like getting random decks every time, and u need to learn ,adapt and overcome, not learn lazy deck and spam 1000 games xd

[edgy bough]

Who’s ready for Inferno #9? 🔥⚔️

[edgy flower]

I'm really appreciate updating us with info, but since I'm not a programmer it says nothing to me, if you can also give short translation after this like "we find out game crushing for no reason and will run more tests, to find out what problem and release this patch, hopefully in 1st half of next week"

[worn tree]

It would be reason to ejaculate, am I right? 🙊🐻‍❄️😳

I can see Nick and Edi love kimetsu no yaiba

[stray gull]

Essentially, when we make a significant number of code changes there is potential for those changes to create new bugs or break existing features.

This patch includes 90+ fixes as well as game balancing.. what this means is we must thoroughly test Arena and Overworld to ensure any issues are addressed prior to Production.

[alpine dagger]

Does for example basoc nature synergy heal apply on toxic - nature main unit ?

[proven ember]

tomorrow would be Saturday

So 0 😄

[stray gull]

Development Environment

This environment is where all code changes are designed, written, debugged. It's often in a broken state as developers test their work prior to moving to higher environments.

INT Environment

Once code changes are ready to be merged to higher environments, the Team Leads review the PR (Pull Request) , review the code quality and confirm it's ready to be merged to higher environments.

The first round of testing takes place on INT, changes are tested directly, if bugs or issues are identified the tickets are pushed back to the Developer to resolve.

UAT Environment

Once code changes have received a first pass in INT we deploy the entire change-set to UAT (in this case 90+ changes) which is an environment that replicates Production (what everyone is connected to). Here extensive testing is conducted with a view to capture any issues before you receive the update.

Prod Environment

What players experience.

Hopefully that helps @edgy flower

[edgy flower]

Thank you very much @stray gull for your explanation, it's for your 🫴♥️

[stray gull]

We have recently completed work on a mechanism that will allow Game Design to make balancing changes independent of this flow (allowing quicker balance updates), this will be apparent in the coming weeks and months.

[junior geyser]

now THIS is quality of life improvement!

[stray gull]

Yep, many team members have been asking for it. Looking forward to seeing it rolled out.

[turbid osprey]

Thanks for updating us @stray gull , waiting is 10x easier when we have a better understanding of whats happening

[dull wind]

do we need 25 games to be eligible for rewards since the soft reset or all time?

@stray gull please answer me in the ideas thread 🙏🏼

[gloomy mural]

hello when will be new patch?

or we dont have this information?

[topaz lake]

Hey guys, this patch is quite big and impacts a lot of areas. We are sorry for the delay, and we are consantly improving our processes. This being said, future patches should roll out faster.

As for the current patch, the estimated date is next Wednesday. (31 January)

Thanks!

[frail mural]

These god damn game freezes man....💀

[echo yew]

Damn tsunami enchanter for another week .....guess I'll play palworld

[frail mural]

Dont know how many matches I've lost cause games freezes

[gilded parcel]

Melee heroes really need a buff. My boy slashin needs a good build but melee just doesnt work at the moment.

[topaz lake]

The overall stability is improved in the next patch.

[frail mural]

Good to hear🫡👍

[raven obsidian]

Im stuck on a frozen screen now too. If i surrender this does my elo get affected?

[frail mural]

Yeah

[raven obsidian]

great

[frail mural]

If you have a powerfull computer you can exit and reconnect

[raven obsidian]

what about ALT F4?

[frail mural]

( I dont )

[frail mural]

Dunno

But when it happens one time in a match it tends to happen every round😮‍💨

If your computer is fast enough you can place illuvials for the next round before it freezes again

[raven obsidian]

just re connected and it was on the 5th round, i have no chance of catching up 😒

-74 elo sheeesh

[frail mural]

Its rough😫

Think I'll just wait until the new patch and pray its more stable

[raven obsidian]

yeah for sure

[frail mural]

My heart pressure cant handle it😅

[elder vault]

anyone having fps drops on macos?

[vernal forum]

If the next patch does not increase the number of teams per account by at least 4x, is it considered an auto-fail?

[wind otter]

Good day guys. Could anyone send a link for combination for classes and affinities for their ups in arena?

[karmic token]

How is it possible for that energy in the center of the arena to destroy my illuvials again and again? impossible too win any game

[warped basalt]

I have the same problem, even if I have 5 illuvials left and the opponent 3, mine take a lot of damage and his take much less. impossible too play

[karmic token]

The game beats me instead of the opponent beating me, stupid..

[olive hedge]

maybe you dont understand the game as much as you think?

[noble seal]

Gm

[split egret]

It's ok it happens in learning process

[winter dagger]

is it just me or is the pathing for Ryplace and Monkier in particular fuckn atrocious like holy shit its so bad sometimes

[eager blade]

is there a way to see match history?

[stray gull]

cmon @turbid osprey

[turbid osprey]

Poor guy hes so mad, cant say i dont enjoy it

[olive hedge]

Illuvial Master .com

[cedar cloak]

Where can I check my current PvP ranking?

[static crane]

@coarse echo If i understand well - Parasitic link in patch Ally Vamp its should be "Bonus 2", but in patch note its "Bonus 1"

[worn tree]

Hey guys, I am back after a 12h isolation 🤝🏻

[topaz lake]

Yes, that's correct. Ally Vamp is B2

[native pilot]

there a site or anywhere yet that has meta builds?

[bronze spire]

all my videos have them in the descriptions

[native pilot]

Thanks, will check 'em out

[bronze spire]

id suggest the tsunami one

illuvidata also has builds posted there, though you will still have to make it on the illuvium team builder

[native pilot]

Cheers!

[static crane]

Wanna know about Temporal Safeguard as well
When Immune activating - its not "Cleaning" hero?
Its like negative effects before Immune will keep on hero now, if it is augment without Cleanse, but if Immune is active - negative effects not refreshing on this hero?
Sorry if my English without "Cleanse" effect 😄

And i guess i found one more mistake in patch @topaz lake
Maladaptive Resonator Clumsy and healing debuff its Bonus 1 both, but in patch note its b1 and b2
Sorry if annoying 😄

[topaz lake]

The cleanse from Temporal Safeguard does not remove debuffs/buffs, only effects such as stun, root, frost, poison, etc.

Immune works in a different way. If you receive an attack speed debuff of 10s and then become immune for 5s. You will still be affected by the AS debuff for 5seconds after the immune effect is gone.

[topaz lake]

Yes, ty, probably a typo

[static crane]

Got it, Thanks
Almost like BKB and Cleanse in Dota)

[topaz lake]

Yes, almost as bkb. If you have any other questions, just tag me.

[static crane]

I have 😄
Fortification catalyst description
Different between "Allies" and "Teammates"?
Means after patch its Holder+Allies within 25 hexes and before patch holder didn't got buff from augment?

[topaz lake]

Yes, that's correct.
Allies = excluding the Holder
Teammates = including the Holder

[tropic moon]

Starting this patch, we are introducing the Augment Limitation feature, meaning that only one Augment per line can be added to the team via Team Builder.

what's up with this? i cas still add more augments per line?

[bronze spire]

Only 1 per line. Patch isn’t live yet though if that’s what you mean

So when it is you can only take 1 suppressor,

[tropic moon]

my bad, thought the patch was live

[bronze spire]

Haha yea first time it’s been patch notes before it’s actually live

[brazen quarry]

Anyone streaming PvP? I got about 30 free min

[karmic token]

Ok, what could I do in that situation when that energy comes at the end of the game and I have much more advantage than the opponent but the energy damages me more, maybe you can tell me where I am wrong.

[cyan olive]

It isn’t damaging you more, your opponent might have healing/health regen and you don’t which would help them

[plush cobalt]

I'm playing against this guy the we both ready to fight and the timer hits zero but the fight did not start

[karmic token]

So you have no explanation.. and I'm the one who plays with healing, the last 3 opponents don't. anyway, I'll probably go out

[sacred finch]

Its hard to teel exaclty what is happening if you don't show or explain properly, but the overtime damage based on you team's total health split between all your illuvials, so if your opponent have a lot of illuvials alive and you don't, it will seems like you are taking more damage because it is split between less illuvials

The game is not a conspiracy just to harm you

[worn tree]

It's a bug affecting both players. You gotta reset the game. It is very fucked up. Most likely it gets fixed next patch on Wed next week!

[worn tree]

Look brother, let me give you a few clues. The only one with no explanation and many questions it's you.

When second 45 is reached, a percentual amount of health in true damage is applied to all units alive. This % is distributed among the units. If you have more bodies in board, the % is lower as it is distributed among your units. If you have fewer bodies, the ture dmg % is higher.

Healing helps in longevity vs the sudden death damage, shields don't.

This is all the info you should need to have in order to stop complaining about it.

Someone from the DAO correct me if what I said is unnaccurate. Thanks and love'yall ❤️

[sacred finch]

Do you know if the true damage dealt to me is a percentual of my team or the enemy team health?

[worn tree]

I honestly don't know, but the way it feels, it seems like each damage wave is composed of say, 30% true damage. If you have 5 units, each one receives 6% true damage per second. If you have two units, each one receives 15% true damage.

This is purely based on my game experience, never checked with the team.

[sacred finch]

I believe each wave deals more damage than the previous one

[worn tree]

That could be very true

[sacred finch]

Then it makes sense being a % of my own team so at 60 seconds it would be 100%

[worn tree]

Confirmed as fuck, it is very true

[sacred finch]

I was unsure because if you check the damage after the round it shows that your units that were alive dealt pure damage

[worn tree]

Hmmm, definitely the team could give us some light on this. @topaz lake could you please enlighten us sir? How the maths work in sudden death post 45 sec timer.

[warm rivet]

Patch out?

[topaz lake]

Starts at 5% max health per second, increasing by another 5% each second. Damage is split among alive units (5 units alive / 5% mh -> 1% mh for the initial tick)

[worn tree]

Great, thanks!!! ❤️

[worn tree]

Wednesday brother

[topaz lake]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[warm rivet]

Thanks alot! ❤️

[tulip tiger]

some one play me

[echo yew]

still looking for a casual?

[west quartz]

That’s 5% per team right ? Like 5% for me and 5% for my opponent

[topaz lake]

Yes

[vernal forum]

I’d like to see the overtime mechanic changed. Having the round play out normally, but quicker is preferable to this current mechanic which can often change the result of just playing it out.

[sacred finch]

This could lead to infinite rounds when both teams are outhealing the opponent damage, imagine 2 adorius facing each other for example

[edgy flower]

TFT says "we double all dmg and speed up round" when it comes to fatigue

But I'm like how it's now, in future we will see decks around win by that, and it's cool

[tulip tiger]

yasss

[vernal forum]

There are solutions that don’t involve an arbitrary damage source/amount.

[vernal forum]

I’m in the other side of this. I do want rounds to end quickly, but don’t like the arbitrary damage source and amount. It should at minimum be sourced from the Illuvials left in the wave just given a multiplier and sped up.

[worn tree]

Question, regarding graviton piercer augment, it says it procs after 6 attacks.

Sticking to the text, this is a one time only event.

Just saw @vivid stirrup video and he says every 6 attacks. This would make the augment insanely stronger.

I seek clarification from the team as I am suspecting this is just a one time trigger 👍🏻

[topaz lake]

It procs once after 6 attacks. The text says "After", not "Every"

[worn tree]

Good, very good.

[vivid stirrup]

in my video, i put a txt on screen correcting myself and saying it proccs one time after 6 attacks 😉

[worn tree]

My bad sir, was on the gym and just listened your sweet voice 🤝🏻

Anyway, good the have the official confirmation 🙌🏻

[worn tree]

Error in the patch notes:

Tier 3 parasitic link, bonus 2 is now set to 35 when it should actually be 20. While doing QoL adding images this typo might have occurred 👍🏻

[hearty sleet]

How can we see how many games we played for the week?

[worn tree]

Illuvimaster I believe?

[onyx sundial]

It'd be great to have a seperate leaderboard view (maybe a on/off toggle button) that shows a ranking of people who have played the 15 games for the week to be eligible

[edgy flower]

and and also without any smurf also

but didnt think we will see it soon

[indigo pagoda]

Hi! I dont have a good GPU (840M) so I set all graphics settings to "low" but I still can't play cause of too much lag. Do you have any tips? Thanks

[lost wyvern]

after last match i have some error that close the game (client). i didn't have time to report because apear after i lose and automatic close the game

[worn tree]

Agreed

[proven coral]

Any plans to have a testing area, I miss being able to net deck/test out deck ideas without being forced into a match.

Would be great if you could pick AI to use a deck from your loadout and then use a different one yourself.

Helps somewhat in theory craft and learning curves for people.

[edgy flower]

that for sure, im w8 thing like that sop much

[raven obsidian]

Yeah I agree mate, I would like to see an option in the future where you can use your teams against the survival mode

[zenith mortar]

Fixed

thanks

[zenith mortar]

Perry just was talking about this

[worn tree]

Very welcome sir!

[cursive echo]

@candid peak 😭

[sour silo]

what does clumsy do?

[gritty wren]

cant dodge

[sour silo]

[hearty sleet]

Do leaderboards reset every week?

[onyx sundial]

Noooice

[gritty wren]

no, but need 15 ranked games per week to get rewards

[solar axle]

What day do we receive the rank rewards?

[olive hedge]

Is rating 1372 people that are not playing?

[onyx sundial]

Yea that's what i'm assuming

[coarse echo]

yep, good catch

[alpine dagger]

People leave games round before they lose to prevent rating calobration, for example i wait for 10 minutes for enemy to return , and nothing happens until i press ALT F4 ,start need game and not gain any rating change , sadly but very often happens, to prevent this offer us 5min dc = lose of not recconcted

[spare frigate]

stars next to names..? different colours showing what type of rewards youll be getting?

https://tenor.com/view/good-job-goodjob-congrats-goldstar-gif-3691540

whats the reset day for rewards? is there a timer showing when it'll reset?

[crystal aurora]

https://play.illuvium.io/team-builder/1a40c8cc-45a2-4a53-b2f1-26864656088c - sharing next patch meta i guess :3 magma - behemoth 5 fighters opening

[frail mural]

Gz on the free win LordUrano, game bugs totally fk'd me the two first rounds there 🤓

Atleast I got to place some units before it froze for round 3 🤣

Ohh. I see. That was only on my screen😭 god damnit🥲

[frail mural]

Ok.. thats a new one😬

[tropic moon]

if I had 25+ games before the announcement, do I need 15 or 25 after it?

[stray gull]

15 games after the announcement confirming the Season has commenced

Insane game @modern linden

GG

[dark vine]

btw. is there a way to check if we played enough games? I am unsure if I counted one game twice >.<

[crystal aurora]

good day sir, is it possible to have a training feature for arena?

[stray gull]

That will be added when resource allows, for right now you'll need to keep track

[stray gull]

Bots will be added to casual mode at some point. Noting that Survival Mode is a great place to learn basic mechanics

[crystal aurora]

Nice, hope that will come soon, thanks

Hard to fm in casual atm

[twin mortar]

when will patch be live?

[edgy bough]

wednesday

[stray gull]

@scarlet spindle

[scarlet spindle]

Lol yeah, that was nice.

[solar axle]

the round stopped at 0 seconds, what to do? Is this some kind of bug?

I'm waiting for my opponent and nothing happens

[scarlet spindle]

Yes if it hasnt started after 10 seconds I restart and try to reconnect in time for the next round

[scarlet spindle]

When that happens it's like a bugged match, so you might have to reconnect a couple times during that game.

[solar axle]

okay thx

[stray gull]

These issues have been addressed with the next patch, sorry for that guys.

[floral cloak]

anyone have resources for learning more about what to use together?

or any suggestions?

[reef basalt]

We have a couple of articles that can help you on our site illuvidata.gg

Can also see the videos of @bronze spire @cyan olive or @vivid stirrup

[stiff seal]

Hello @stray gull, since leaderboard reward already started, does the team planning to implement elo decay when inactive? To spice things up ?

[floral cloak]

How do you guys plan/make decks? im struggling to come up with my own ideas and just end up copying someone else

[stray gull]

For right now, the plan is to have a soft reset at the start of each Season

[stiff seal]

Ahh, so 1 season last for a week or a month?

[bronze spire]

personally i like to see what composite is really good. Eg tsunami. Than i look at what that could possibly be paired with, Eg mystic or enchanter or invoker. Than its who that would mean id have to bond with and kind of build it around those 2 composites. A lot of it is building one than modifying after a loss

Though this stage in a patch id say there isnt much theory crafting left

Helps to have two separate illuvial masters tabs open one with classes and one with affinites

[grand bluff]

Right now, I think it's better to copy someone else's and modify a little to have better matchups against teams you encounter often.

I think you can start theorycrafting once the new patch drops, because all the teams that are being used now will not be able to be used anymore. Though understanding what the meta is in this patch will help guide you in the right direction on what combis are usually good when you theorycraft on the new patch.

[dark vine]

I see, even if I don't want to cause any stress I would like to ask if it could be possible that games aren't recorded. Coming up with this question because Illuvialmaster seems to have limited access to that history since there are always some games that aren't shown on that website.

[spare frigate]

@ebon flume ggaming

[ebon flume]

Need to sleep now but will be back. What was the score?

2 - 2

[spare frigate]

yeah 2 - 2

i gotta have a break too .. that was intense xD

[ebon flume]

You play a tough game ser

[spare frigate]

tie breaker next game

[spare frigate]

u2 ser.
Sweet dreaming

[ebon flume]

https://tenor.com/view/workout-train-strong-fit-muscular-gif-15131267

[spare frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/explain-plan-theory-crazy-insane-gif-22079506

[chrome plinth]

what deck are u playin guys ?

[zenith mortar]

Whatever @cyan olive tells me

[worldly jolt]

I’ve only played my own decks so far. My one decent one is not even great. So I just loaded some from @bronze spire

I like the look of colossus psion. And I want to try an umbre carry as well.

[chrome plinth]

so can we have his deck ? need it so bad !

been playing invoker but i think i should try something else

[zenith mortar]

I actually won a game today with the hot fish team

The premade one

Lost 3 rounds in a row

[chrome plinth]

then i should try that!

[zenith mortar]

Then beat him

[chrome plinth]

whats your rank rich

[bronze spire]

lot of muds around umbre might be rough

[chrome plinth]

what should we play sir !?

[worldly jolt]

I suspect I’ll have time to climb from silver 1 before meeting many mud. But we will see

https://tenor.com/view/little-giants-muscles-flex-body-gif-8495707

[bronze spire]

https://play.illuvium.io/team-builder/9b8b286f-fa22-4c65-ab8e-3706754580fc

this is what im playing and most are playing same if not similar

Or they are playing phos

[chrome plinth]

thank u so FUKIN much !

[bronze spire]

true yea umbre not a bad idea than, and sounds funner than current meta haha

[bronze spire]

range bonds to geeyser for enchanter tsunami around round 3-4 i think

hard team to play so defs not free wins haha i take no responsibility for lost elo

[chrome plinth]

just saw your youtube channel can i see how u play this deck ?

[bronze spire]

i havent got one up with it but you can see in the finals of the last wildfire tourney i play the same thing (just changed earth to mud)

on scoriox channel

im playing as guesss (brother had to do half the touney until i got home from work)

[chrome plinth]

thank u so much bud! i'll check that

[bronze spire]

nps!

[chrome plinth]

just subscribed your channel . amazing!

[west quartz]

same opponent, back to back, 1W 1L : +16, -25

[chrome plinth]

😄

[west quartz]

(Gold 2 vs gold 2 btw)

[vernal forum]

Hi,
My game was stuck at " waiting for your opponent, if i quit this one will i lose?

[bronze spire]

hell yea thank you!

[chrome plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-austin-stonecold-beer-wrestling-gif-23989392

[bronze spire]

nope close it and re-open game

[vernal forum]

Okay thanks

[bronze spire]

you can reconnent but do it fast cause might miss a turn haha

[edgy flower]

Is it even allowed to let other ppl for you? Just asking

[bronze spire]

only if you both arent entered seperatly and its not a qualifying tourney / need to qualify to do it

[reef basalt]

Well well well. Keep seeing prominent people with HYPE tags 😄

[bronze spire]

best players and no toxicity 😄

[sleek dagger]

I experience the same issue several times and it becomes unplayable at this rate. Any fix for this?

[bronze spire]

not that i know of. But some days i dont get it at all. Might be someone specific you play that you desync with. So maybe dont que straight away and try get someone different

its fixed next patch on wednesday

[edgy flower]

who is smurf on acc named @spititmonger?

[solar axle]

Does anyone have a good list for beginners? Not too complex?

[edgy flower]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/814317365662580786 check here

[worldly token]

how are the payouts for the leaderboard handled with secondary accounts? For example 5 people in the top 100 habe two accounts each - are the top 105 considered then because those people do not get twice the ilv? or still the top 100 just basically only 95 people get rewards?

[bronze spire]

https://youtu.be/LEY3wzjU6UU?si=EUhIwHTMQ74nRWLP

This is a good start, simple enough and is one of the meta builds

[solar axle]

thx man ❤️

[edgy flower]

stop give tsunami to ppl D :

[noble seal]

Hi

[bronze spire]

Hahah true making the problem worse

Should share your psion build

[winter dagger]

as long as they are clearly marked as smurf accounts they will only reward one of them as far as I remember, so yes, if thers 10 multiples in the top 100 then i guess 101-110 would get rewards too

[cyan olive]

yeah people like me will be skipped on 2nd, 3rd etc. accounts only accounts that played 15 games and aren´t smurfs will count

[safe valve]

Why do people Make smurf Accounts?
They like to destroy noobs?

[civic grotto]

They don't want to risk their mains

[cyan olive]

it is bad for your rank to play only 1 account by all means

you can´t test anything, as you would just lose games for free, which also feeds free mmr to others which sucks

in my case e.g. que time is way high on main obv, which sucks for stream as well

also any ranking system, in which you care for rank means having e.g. 1 main account to play serious teams, when awake, when focused etc. and playing other accounts when before aren´t true seems only natural

I think someone e.g. questioning if I´d be wintrading or so if I´d que main account atm would be a reasonable assumptions, as it makes pretty much 0 sense at all to play main, when ranks get rewards and I am so far ahead of others

[zinc geyser]

Those Tsunami teams are so broken, why hasn't this been nerfed yet? Every game I face this 😒

[cyan olive]

you can play mud mystic teams, they beat those most of the time

[sleek dagger]

yeah its when i see this spesific person. Okay i'll try your tips. Thanks!

[lavish orchid]

how can i see the leaderboard on ranked?

[cyan olive]

https://play.illuvium.io/arena/leaderboard?activeTab=ascendant the leaderboard is on the illuvium website like teambuilder

[elder ore]

And what counters mud mystic?

[cyan olive]

arcanite

[elder ore]

Grilla wont clear Scoriox?

[cyan olive]

grilla jumps to a bloom ranger, so phyrox is save for long or kills grilla anyways

[elder ore]

Thanks

[main dune]

tsunima its more strong than bloom?

I'm using bloom composition, with toxic and nature. but I'm having a lot of difficulty against tsunami, any tips?

[elder ore]

Try reduce their energy and target ranger

[alpine dagger]

How is grind going

[main dune]

Is Ranger very important?

I'm a beginner

[elder ore]

In tsunami team yes, main char

[main dune]

I use a system with 0 magicians.

With 2 weapons on the ranger to make chemistry of 2 colossi with 5 figters 1 empath, 2 rogues, or 3 figters and 4 rogues, is it worth putting in pyron?

[elder ore]

Hard to tell from your message. Check some other teams from viper or web3 guy, they are solid

[main dune]

https://play.illuvium.io/team-builder/ddcdbb9c-0f72-4891-ab04-13714a511208

To reduce energy, do I put it on the frontline? or us rogue back line?

[alpine dagger]

U put augments to reduce whole team energy gain

Or u use air units

Can some1 explain what is clumsy , grit and resolve effect ? How the units get hyper ? ..

[sacred finch]

Clumsy - unit can't dodge
grit - flat physical damage reduction, for example if you have 10 grit and would take 35 physical damage, you take 25 instead
resolve - flat energy damage reduction

Hyper is based on the unit primary affinity, if it is near enemy units which he has and advantage it starts charging his hyper

[alpine dagger]

Thanks

Thats helping

I been stuck around 1500 mmr , unknowing this things

I asumed right about resolve and grit , but had no clue about hyper

Does my tsunami unit gets water unit aura mana regen ?

Bcz its dominant role is water

[dark vine]

No, it gets the smaller bonus

[vernal forum]

Hi guys,
so for Illuvium Arena, any player could use all illuvials?

[alpine dagger]

Yes

You build deck out of all ill

[sour silo]

at the bidding phase something crashed - now the game is stuck 😦

[elder ore]

Sorry amigo, dont have time to go over it

[sand fable]

Yep had this few times. You can't do any action but your opponent can. It always arrived on a single round but still at the end that could mean insta game over

[worn thicket]

Legitimate question, are there any sanctions available or planned to punish people with excessed toxicity? like if someone constantly dms with insults other players when they loose for example.

[brazen quarry]

Just block em and get over it, sheesh

[safe valve]

Some people block them...
Some people like the resulting Drama...
Some people like being insulted...
Choose your path 🤷🏻

[trim cape]

hi everyone, new here and heard this is similar to TFT? I'm GM/challenger in TFT, will the learning curve be a lot easier?

also is there a guide or tldr on how to start and how much earnings is possible?

[brazen quarry]

Prolly harder

[edgy bough]

lmao who has the time to be doing that? sounds like they need to touch some grass

im noticing there's currently not a high ceiling for top 100, i think 1600+ and you're in top 75. are there just not a lot of ppl playing until patch on wednesday?

[worn thicket]

wait patch is wednesday?

[fair hemlock]

should report them as scammers and get the mods on it xD
"this guy DM'd me out of nowhere is this a scam?"

lol

[marsh bloom]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[vernal forum]

Feedback on the first rewards for arena.

Right now, we have a situation where the top rank will likely be an account that plays the minimum number of games 15. This is because you gain the most elo immediately after reset and we have no decay. So, to get first, you must create a team that can go on a 15-0 run or 14-1 and then stop playing that account.

This is bad because the system incentivizes players to not play the game. What we want is an elo system that rewards lots of games played.

Daily decay of around 10 points could help if rewards are weekly. Maybe only decay if less than 3 games are played that day. Or, make it a bonus of 10 elo for three games played each day so it’s additive instead of punitive.

Also, I think soft reset plus over 100 elo for first couple wins is too top heavy/game dependent weighting for just 15 games. I think minimum games should be higher for these rewards. At least double to 30 games. That is still less than 8 hours a week play time. Fine for casuals.

I would introduce rewards for survival as well. I see survival as a beginning part of player onboarding and we should be incentivizing players in this space also. I would take maybe 5 or 10% of player rewards and allocate that to survival leaderboard each day.

Survival is a great learning tool that feels underutilized at the moment. Adding rewards here will help.

Overall, very thankful for this incredibly generous rewards system and would like to see it tweaked a little to improve the amount of games played and the competitive nature of the game.

[winter solstice]

do we have a link for downloading game here?

[burnt urchin]

You need to download it from epic games store. I tried to link it, but server bot didn’t allow it.

[winter solstice]

ok

[dark vine]

agree, wanted to write something similar but I had in mind to not give any new placement elo after soft reset for old accounts because the accounts are already kinda seeded. For example I am at 13:2 or 14:2 (not sure) but I had my two losses in game two and four which means I knew after 4 games that I can't reach viper during this week. I guess, it would be fairer if we just had to start from around 1500 again and work our way up with the normal elo system. This would also require more games to compete for the top. Tbh. it is kinda hilarious to be in top 25 and ask yourself if you played enough games...

Also I think the feature to check how many games you have played is important since the third party website Illuvialmaster only shows 11 of my 15 or 16 games which is pretty unsettling because I am not sure if the problem is on the side of Illuvialmaster or Illuvium. If it is a problem with the tracking on Illuvium's side we are up for a lot of tickets...

[vernal forum]

Yeah, before I saw Kieran’s announcement on us having to use our main account for rewards and not just our highest I had already played 30 games on my main trying to find a deck to use. So even if I win 40 straight games I probably wouldn’t reach 2k elo on that account. So what do I do? I don’t play anymore and just wait for the next reset. I don’t think this is what we want in the future.

This starting point is excellent though and I am thankful to the team for all their hard work and the rewards system.

[dark vine]

wow, that sucks, sorry to hear that 😦

[sacred finch]

me too, it took more than 30 games to get my main account to the same rank as the second one, in which I played only 2 or 3 games

The system should be more inflationary, so if someone have around 50% wr he would be earning points by playing a lot of games and keeping that wr

[onyx sundial]

Anyone else really struggling to even have one game where it doesn't bug out with points or require an app restart to do your turn?

[vernal forum]

I’m not convinced we need inflationary yet, first we should eliminate the deflationary system we have now and see how that feels. I worry about inflationary because it would diminish pure skill for grinding.

Right now grinding is heavily penalized. Let’s take those penalties away.

[sacred finch]

It could be more inflationary on early ranks and get less inflationary at very high ranks

It doesnt make sense that no one never achieve the highest elo

[edgy flower]

I don't think it will be reset every week, so you can just climb in next patch

Also I think decay should work only if you played 0 games, and to prevent you have to play 2 games per day

[uneven estuary]

If I make a second account with the same nickname with the prefix 2, can it be considered the main account? I just started with the fact that I lost all the games and did not know that the calibration affects a lot.

[vernal forum]

This makes sense. Win streak inflation could also help players climb out of the dungeon if they don’t belong there. I’d worry about the top end though with win streaks.

[vernal forum]

According to my understanding, no. I made the same mistake and got discouraged so I’m just waiting until patch or season 2 to play more.

[uneven estuary]

In general, it's not very clear to me what the calibration is for. Of course, a beginner will lose the first games if he opposes someone who has played at least 5-10 games and has a basic understanding of the game. What is the point of taking away 10 times more pts for these games. Is it better than the usual system where everyone starts from the same position, without getting at once +500 or -500 mmr, which at least in 30-50% of cases will not be quite fair? 🤔

[uneven estuary]

Yeah, I'll probably start with a fake account next time 😅

[west quartz]

right now if you have a 50% winrate you're hard deranking lmao

[vernal forum]

At least one team member has spoken to this that they are working on improving the mmr system and we’ve already seen some positive changes, which is great. The change from starting at 1500 to 700 ish wasa good change imo. It’s again great to give respectful feedback like this because the Illuvium team takes community sentiment and feedback into their calculations for future improvements.

[uneven estuary]

Yeah, season 1 is usually always a test season, I think the team will improve matchmaking. It's just that when you are immediately dropped to 400 mmr, and you go up to 1400 and for this you play a lot of games (and you take away points more than they give you) or a person played 3-4 games and won them, because he has already played before and got 1500 mmr. It doesn't look quite fair.

[supple beacon]

Did you play any games with a rating system ever? This is how any of them work, the first few games are inflated to put you in the right elo as fast as possible.

[west quartz]

@vivid stirrup who won ?

[tranquil sundial]

Is the patch live? If not when does it release? Thanks

[uneven estuary]

It seems to me that on the contrary you haven't played ranked games 🤔 . There is no such thing in any CCG or autobattler.

The only exception is if you, for example, have achieved a good rating and part of that rating is kept for the next season. But there is no such thing that you just entered the game and immediately got a top rating.

[sand fable]

Yep 4 match 3 lose and 1 win. And straight to 800 from 1400ish and now every win is like +19 -_-

[vivid stirrup]

not sure

[supple beacon]

Literally this is exactly what happened. This was a reset from previous "season 0".

[worn thicket]

I agree, situation is not ideal. Thank you for putting the effort in redecting such a clean feedback.

There a lot of directions we could go with this to improve the situation and as you mention, I think a decay system would be interesting but where in TFT/LoL for example the decay is after a full week of inactivity which here since rewards are every week, wouldn't make sense.

We also can't force our players who have a job to play everyday, so most players would, I imagine mostly play on their days off work if that's when they can = once a week.

So with all this said, what we really need is more players. With more players there are more Elo points overall and that makes the climb more easy for the high elo players as they will experience the +2/+3 games way less often. It's also about our players, will they all just stop at 15 games in a gentleman's agreement, or will they keep playing and climb as high as they can? That's up to them but in fact if the outsiders don't put enough pressure on the high elo, I can see the scenario you describe happening.

[dull wind]

I wonder how much fees the DAO gonna pay to distribute 0.1 ILV for 900 wallets

and why are we still doing this on L1? Hard to understand, what am I missing?

[supple beacon]

It is not on L1 it is on immutable no?

[vernal forum]

This is true, but it seems to me that the system could benefit from further calibration.

[vernal forum]

More players will help, but I still see the 15-0 run or worse 14-1 being better than 90 wins 10 losses in elo as a problem. Others might disagree with me though that it’s even an issue.

[vernal forum]

It’s L2 and has no gas fees. They actually stipulate that you must use your imx wallet not just an L1 wallet for just this reason.

Level 2 is what makes all these micro transactions possible. I’d recommend reading an L2 whitepaper (IMX is good) if you haven’t yet. This technology is likely to propel gaming forward some day and is imx’s entire mission (whom ILV is partnered with).

I guess my main issue right now is that 90-10 results in lower elo than 9-1 despite 90-10 being much more difficult to achieve.

[safe valve]

But you don't have to make it the Same as tft/lol.
You could start the decay earlier like after 2 days, no?

Of course forcing people to play 8h a Day to get the chance being in the paid ranks might be not the optimal solution, but a paid ranking might be out of reach for people who play 2-3h a week on the weekend.

[ebon aspen]

if we can't attract players with just hype and influencers plus marketing, then we just keep building and hope for the best in the end or you force people to play with $$$ rewards ....

[dull wind]

Good to know it's on L2, I wondered because the beyond leaderboard rewards are sent in the L1

[ebon aspen]

own in game assets and make money while playing are the buzz phrases that will drive web3

[native pilot]

Fellow TFT player here (diamond) - learning curve is pretty rough, but so is TFT's.

Personally, besides positioning importance I actually don't think there are many similarities to TFT. I liken it much more to Hearthstone - build a deck, have strategies against different opponent types within that deck.

It doesn't have the "every game can feel different" feel that TFT has, nor the "just log in and press play what comes to you" feel. I don't mind the game, but I wouldn't say it's much like TFT in it's current state

[dark vine]

hey, totally agree on this feedback. Kinda similar feedback was given quite often and aaron also gave some hints that they are working on different arena versions, just fyi. You can find the message I am referring to here: #🎮〕illuvium-arena message
If you have questions on the game feel free to ask. On the third party website Illuvialmaster com you can also find several explaination under dictionary.

[trim cape]

thanks for the feedback! helpful to know it's basically a different game

and it seems like unless you're ranked like top 3, the rewards don't really seem significantly worth it?

[supple beacon]

Well I mean 1 ilv for top 25 is really good. You get 1 ilv weekly for playing a game

[worn thicket]

I'll take my own example, there's very often 2-3 maybe even 5 days straight where i just can't even play. while on some others i get 30-40 games in. Why should someone with such a schedule (common for people with job+family) be penalized?

[trim cape]

I guess $75 for top 25 isn't too bad, is it known how many total players play the ranked version?

[native pilot]

Not sure if $75 is worth that time investment - also not sure exactly how they are cracking down on smurfs doubling (or more) up on rewards. It is cool they are giving out ILV to players though

[supple beacon]

Obviously it needs to be a game first, I play because I like it. It is not supposed to be a fulltime job

[gritty wren]

who even got fun with this meta

[native pilot]

Yeah I am the same. I love the idea of passively earning ILV while playing a fun game

Arena isn't my cup of tea, super keen for overworld

[tropic moon]

any idea if we can trust illuvialmaster for match history on if we played the 15 games? also, any idea why it's not up to date sometimes?

[vivid stirrup]

wouldn't rely on it, doesn't record a lot of my matches

[tropic moon]

it worked well yesterday, and i'm missing two matches today...
i'm just hoping it doesn't add any matches... i can live with it skipping some

[zenith mortar]

Our backend numbers are exact either way

[tropic moon]

but i'm not sure mine are... and i don't want to play another match and lose rating 😄

[dark vine]

would it be possible to have a simple google sheet or something which shows which accounts reached the 15 games. I mean to distribute rewards something like this should exist anyway, right? I am 99% sure that I played 15 or 16 games but tbh Illuvialmaster missing so many games (it shows 11) causes quite the unsettlement 😄

[fallen vortex]

We are only showing limited numbers because Illuvium has told us we cant hit the api very much

[native pilot]

I've been keeping track on my own for this purpose. Would be nice if the UI showed it, but I can understand that's low prio atm

[zenith mortar]

Yeah I asked though if it’s on the radar for soon or what

[safe valve]

Yea, i get that. I'm in a similar boat.
But imo too rankings should be tied to skill AND grind.

[dark vine]

good to know that that is the problem, so, the games should at least been recorded by ILV

[fallen vortex]

Absolutely, any missing games are purely on Illuvialmasters end (not by choice)

[dark vine]

so, buying the service from you guys is an option too? 😄 (for the team)

[fallen vortex]

Not sure what u mean?

[floral cloak]

How can i ad affinities to my ranger? I see everyone else doping it but i cant seem to figure out how

looking to add the shock afinity after rd 2 ive seen others do it to me

[fair hemlock]

you can press the + icon above the ranger. then press on an Illuvial and the ranger will gain the dominant affinity and class of that illuvial on top of the affinity/class they had from their weapon.

Fire sword -> press + and press on Kukkaraph f.e. and you gain Air which fuses with fire to make Shock as well as Psion or Empath.
Psion would fuse into Arcanite, Empath would get you the Templar composite.

So if you want to add the shock affinity, you need either a fire or air weapon. and then you need an Illuvial with the other affinity to bond with.

If you have an Ophisto, you need to make that Illuvial's affinity the right one. If you use a fire weapon, you need ophisto to be Air dominant. (and the other way around.)

[floral cloak]

Thank you!

How would one have figured that out without asking just curious?

[fair hemlock]

you could probably go through any of the sites that creates content around arena. Illuvialmaster, Illuvidata and Illuvihub have some info. You can look at twitch streams by people like Viper (almost daily?). You can also just press on anything that you find in-game. Or you can scroll through this chat as it's probably been asked before. Or youtube videos ofcourse! lots of youtubers posting content in #🎨〕community-content

A tutorial will come with the release of the open beta. So by that time you would know because the game explains it to you 🙂

[alpine dagger]

Ppl still leaving before last round in ranked

Should i wait , or leave , abandon ?

How to secure your free wins from this kind of fraud ?

I am curently i game,will client last forever if i dont leave ?

[floral cloak]

Is there an item I can use to make the omni power activate back to back? like once the illuvial gets full energy and uses its omnii attack is there a card where they use it twice? not sure if omni is the right word sorry

like powers acent?

not sure what those are called

[fair hemlock]

There is a legendary augment that allows an illuvial to cast their omega ability twice in a row. After casting their ability it would refund 100% of its energy.

I think there are similar augments, but probably not to allow an Illuvial to cast multiple times in a row. That would be broken. You could look into increasing starting energy from the Illuvial and the team.

Im a bit rusty still on the augments tbh.

Also one with 50 Omega power (1.5x damage) and 50% energy refund. So two legendary augments that do something similar. And there may be regular augments that refund like X energy. But it may not be significant.

Better would be to look into using water Illuvials. Water -> energy regen. And most illuvials like Atippo and Lynx and such also replenish energy when they use their omega. (Either in area or upon crit or such)

[wicked cloak]

hmmmm, i love how my vermiliare can tank ryplace and monkier for the first 35 seconds of the game, but tsunami enchanter is so busted that he still wins with half of his team

[fallen vortex]

#patchplz

[worldly jolt]

I’ve gotta be able to win. Someone send me the most broken in need of nerf build. Imma test it out.

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-wiggling-arms-no-muscles-need-to-workout-gif-8040613

[worldly jolt]

You would give me some trash build and then jump into ranked when I do

[gloomy barn]

Nah i would give u a trash build and feed u to the leaderboard hunters lol

[worldly jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ilv-illuvium-andrew-wall-emotional-damage-gif-26318274

[reef basalt]

Have you checked the tsunami enchanter build? We got the team and article for it based on web3s submission on our site

[worldly jolt]

I have not tried anything yet. Ill check it out

[floral cloak]

Anyone here top 1,000?

[floral cloak]

I’m in the win 1 lose 2 camp, I’d rather just lose everytime as to not get my hopes up

[worldly jolt]

Top 6000 here!

[fallen vortex]

Lol just use birb

[hearty sleet]

Are you able to unlink your hero without taking your illuvitar off the board?

[zenith mortar]

hmm am i even in the top 1000

nope lol

[worn fractal]

No as of now need to remove that Illuvial in order to do that

[fallen vortex]

get gud

[zenith mortar]

im bad

[burnt urchin]

Do we have any idea how much of an increase in players we have had since leaderboard rewards were announced?

[brazen quarry]

I quit playing after that announcement 😆

[burnt urchin]

Not in it for the money. Respect.

[olive hedge]

no

well at least we dont

[burnt urchin]

I can’t imagine it didn’t help some. The amount of people complaining about bugs seems like a good sign of more players 🤣.

[worldly jolt]

Imma quit too. But only because I’m so bad

[halcyon nova]

waiting for the patch to come out ...it was a good excuse also so i could clear out all the end of year stuff from my life to give me a clear run when the patch finaly lands

[worldly jolt]

I tell myself I’m bad because I can’t be bothered to understand how to play meta decks

[native pilot]

What’s the rating for top 1000 currently?

As in the floor

[worldly jolt]

Like 1372

[gloomy heron]

time to get on the grind to get good at illuvium to get top 1000!

[hot pond]

Good luck 🤞

[gloomy heron]

any tips? lol

[hot pond]

I guess the easiest build to play is the tsunami enchanter build

Which I personally hate to play though 😂

[gloomy heron]

im just going to play the game and learn by making dumb moves 😂

[hot pond]

You should just watch some videos about a build and learn the basic recipe as to how to play each round. You can apply that same technique in an auto pilot mode at the beginning

Afterwards you can do the fine tunings

[gloomy heron]

is there a link to the live leaderboard??

[reef basalt]

https://play.illuvium.io/arena/leaderboard

[gloomy heron]

legend

[serene lance]

Surprised the gauntlet weapon's omega animation / hitbox issue still hasnt been patched.

[worldly token]

gm everyone - I heard in this channel yesterday that the patch will come on wednesday. Is that confirmed ?

[edgy flower]

That is the plan

[west quartz]

Not confirmed but they’re aiming for Wednesday

[worldly token]

alright, thanks!

[warped ocean]

What if we made the augment point 4 instead of 3, meaning someone can go all in on 1 augment. Would change gameplay

[worldly token]

hmm.. I actually like that you have to choose at least 2. Often times one augment is absolutelty amazing for comp A and then both bet 3 on it - but the second one isnt always that clear. If you could bet 4 - in those rounds both would just put everything in that one augment and nothing else is up to think about

[ocean junco]

When will arena 3-v0-3-4 take effect?

[ocean junco]

How can Invokers defeat tsunami? Freakin hard

[hot pond]

Invokers have a hard time, but psions can win 👍

[ocean junco]

Yeah. I think it's a mismatch.
But in general, how to counter water tsunami? Any tech augments aside from less energy or healing? The ranger is too strong. And uses omega like every second

[shadow lion]

@uncut comet can you give me that deck pls

[uncut comet]

sure one sec ingame

[shadow lion]

thanks mate

[worldly token]

fought fire psion 8 times in a row - built a deck to counter it and am facing tsunami again... I am frustrated

[edgy flower]

@stable grove yo, you know that you can't choose every time diff acc for rewards depends on lucky win steak, you should once pick main and climb with it, now you have 2 accs and I have no idea which is your main

Smurf is "name_2"

[uncut comet]

@late lagoon im done

[late lagoon]

haha sorry. that was a close one!

[turbid osprey]

Will test accounts and those type get removed from reward

They are not Name2 like asked to do but they are definitely smurfs, how will the filtering work?

[uncut comet]

i ranme my smurf 4 days ago it still doesnt show up in the leaderboard

rename*

[inner orbit]

Maybe the acc is just not renamed yet

[sacred finch]

🤔 mine changed instantly

[uncut comet]

lucky dude

[cyan olive]

did you play 1 game on it?

maybe even casual or custom could work

[uncut comet]

on chrollo i played still chrollo the other one i didnt

i mean u can see ingame nerferpitou2 and on leader 1760 points is chrollo

[junior geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

wen patch

[brazen quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[gloomy barn]

Week 1 rewards end in bout 30 hrs. Prolly after that is my guess.

[mighty tulip]

Was hoping the patch would drop today. Guess I'm missing out on the first week of rewards. Bit disappointing but it is what it is

[turbid osprey]

Wednesday at the earliest

[burnt urchin]

I keep creeping up on the leaderboard without playing. Thanks to all the higher ranks for being gatekeepers. lol

[worn tree]

Hey @stray gull! Is everything on schedule regarding Wed target?

[civic grotto]

Can we talk about how top 25 players who have smurf accounts prevent top 150 players from climbing?

[junior geyser]

smurfs shouldnt exist in ranked

#disablerankedforsmurfs

yeah sure, remove them from the rewards but that doesnt stop them from effecting others climbing

[heavy wharf]

Hey everyone, I'm a little confused about how composite affinities work. Can someone help me understand? I know they each have a dominant trait, but that dominant trait doesn't add to the trait itself right? Are they still effected by the bonus of the dominant trait? Like if I have a mud illuvial with water as the dominant trait, do they get my 3 water bonus applied to them or something?

[civic grotto]

Or better yet, dont give any ELO to smurfs if they win. ELO gain should only be reserved for accounts that pass every check.. ( KYC, wallet link..) Since rewards are now given in terms of ILV, ELO=money.

[cyan olive]

composite are their own thing, dominant only matters for hyper and bonding

[worn tree]

I agree with you for the sake of a fairer system.

I wonder how chess rating works in this regard?

[cyan olive]

no game does anything re smurfs, they are treated as normal accounts

[heavy wharf]

Got it, Thank you!

[cyan olive]

no level of kyc or w.e. you want to do would change that

[supple beacon]

Can we have a discord timezone timestamp for the first snapshot?

[burnt urchin]

What do you mean by “w.e.”?

[civic grotto]

whatever

[burnt urchin]

Is the main reason devs won’t do KYC because they want to live up to crypto philosophy?

[turbid osprey]

Theres one in Hyperion discord

[supple beacon]

Thanks

[civic grotto]

no game pays players for leaderboard placements.

[worn tree]

They already said the smurfs wont get rewards. So being mathematical, if you have a smurf blocking you to go higher, it is also blocking your peers.

It is statistically fair.

You might be number 300 in ranked ladder, but actual top 200 because in the top 300 there are 100 smurfs. If you cant go higher, your peers shouldnt be able to do so either.

[burnt urchin]

Didn’t someone say they are working on a leaderboard that will filter out smurfs?

I guess nothing remotely official. But just back read and found this: #🎮〕illuvium-arena message

Only talks about 15 games played not smurfs though.

[worn tree]

Yup, as that will be the criteria to provide rewards

Kieran said it himself

[native pilot]

Interested to see how they will identify smurfs. As Viper said, not something I have seen any other game deal with really

[cyan olive]

true, most do something like invites to tournaments, but the same "problems" people bring up here, happen there as well

[junior geyser]

removing them from leaderboard rewards is great.. but still doesnt address allowing them to play and take away points for those trying to climb their main accounts. losing to smurfs on your main account is pretty shitty, youd be much higher if you didnt consistently lose to players higher than your elo

[granite echo]

Can anyone help me with the leaderboard rewards?
Is for ranked or for the one where you go on infinite waves?
And i need 15 games every week? Of that pve arena or for ranked arena?

[junior geyser]

ranked and yes 15 every week of ranked

[granite echo]

So the pvp thing? not for the solo arena?

[junior geyser]

correct. pvp. ranked.

[granite echo]

Thank you

[gloomy barn]

So you are mad they are playing a defensive strategy to protect their main account leaderboard rank?

[junior geyser]

not at all, i dont mind them playing smurfs one bit. i am not mad about anything either. Just think its shitty that smurf accounts can effect the placement of main accounts

its not the players i am commenting on anyways, its the ability for them to effect main accounts

that is for the devs not the smurfs

[sacred finch]

Would be nice to nerf wave, lights chosen and meteor augments, maybe increase 10 mastery points cost in each

If only one of them is offered people are probably triple betting them like 90%+ of the times

[worn tree]

Agreed

[dull wind]

I guess this is no surprise, it's 2024 alright. Youngsters instead of trying to get good at the game and be ambitious in getting better in order to beat the best players rather come to discord complain about a handful of people that have smurf accounts.

[worn thicket]

you know that your issue... happens in every single game that exists right?

I definitely wouldn't blame the devs for that happening in ILV.

[twin mortar]

this 7 fire with all 3 rhamphyres is real fun to play against

[worn thicket]

is it? man i really need to find time to get some games in. At this rate i don't even know if i'll be able to be eligible for rewards this week xD

[junior geyser]

those games arent blockchain games nor do they have leaderboard rewards, apples to oranges ehh?

[junior geyser]

when there are more players, sure its okay, but at this moment, we play the same people over and over, no? I guess i need to get good

its amazing how easy it is to assume people are mad and blaming others, but im not mad or blaming, just bringing up obstacles i have faced and im sure i am not the only one

[dull wind]

so do you wanna create a long term problem for a short term solution? More players will come in the future and then you won't be facing the same opponents over and over.

[junior geyser]

how would it create a long term problem?

[dull wind]

KYCs, banning smurfs from rewards, etc... Or you intended it to be all temporary?

[arctic turtle]

I don't have a problem with Smurf accounts as my main complaint is when you match against the same person 3 times in a row there should be maybe be a 5 minute timer before you can face the same person again

[cursive echo]

I don't want to give my home address or report to the state what I'm doing, I want to be in the private sector, stop saying kyc

[junior geyser]

if you are playing the same smurf 5 times in a row, then another smurf 5 more times, etc.. how is that fair for the main account player?

how does denying them of playing against main account players create a long term problem?

[dull wind]

aren't they playing and putting the games though?

why punish good dedicated players...

[junior geyser]

if the games dont count towards leaderboard then whats the point?

[plush cobalt]

Where can I see the leaderboard??

[dull wind]

just get good

[junior geyser]

how is it punishing if they arent eligable for rewards anyways

?

[dull wind]

imagine you're number 1 and you'll prolly find the awnser

[cursive echo]

Perfect solution

[junior geyser]

say im number one on main account, i create a smurf to play for fun, that account cant gain rewards anyways, so allow it to play against other smurfs and not main accounts, i dont see the issue

[dull wind]

so now you want a leaderboard for smurfs?

[junior geyser]

who said that?

[dull wind]

how will you play against other smurfs if they aren't all on a seperate league?

[plush cobalt]

One more rank to go and i'm in the leaderboard

[junior geyser]

dont allow them to play ranked

smurfs ranked disabled

they play standard against other smurfs or main accounts

[gloomy barn]

I told u the point earlier. They are preventing people from topping them in leaderboard after they get a high rank. Or they just wanna play and not risk losing elo after going 14-1 or 15-0

[dull wind]

and again how do you control that? KYC, IP address?

[cursive echo]

Before banning I hope that illuvium will contact the player concerned to justify themselves 'because nothing says that several people play on the same computer

[dull wind]

you're getting into muddy waters

[junior geyser]

i dont have the brains for the backend.. i just know its an issue

[alpine dagger]

Viper doing any lives ? Twitch or any other platform ?

[junior geyser]

twitch

[alpine dagger]

I wanna know if any1 watching my 2x winstreak agaisnt him

We are in third game

[junior geyser]

31 people

[alpine dagger]

Ill join after game

So he doesnt say im stream sniping xd

[junior geyser]

30 sec delay anyways, not possible

[gritty wren]

Just make a one account rule

Then people start playing unranked

[junior geyser]

gg's ez

[alpine dagger]

This os my only and oje acc

I wont play anymore with viper before i reach his main acc

I want that mmr , not this gold acc mmr

Im playing this game for a 7 days maybe max

[gloomy barn]

Still going off an honor system. Doesn't stop people from saying it's their "brother's" account

[worn tree]

Guys, there are other priorities for the DAO than dealing with smurfs, they arent unhealthy.

As filow said, this is a short term issue as smurfs will dilute as the playerbase increases.

Man up, fuck those smurfs up with next patch, or stay at your well deserved rank.

[sacred finch]

There is already something for playing for fun, casual mode

[junior geyser]

sorry for all the bitching then guys, ill man up and get good

maybe ill make a smurf to help out

[gritty wren]

i stay in team bitching for now

[stray gull]

Hey guys, appreciate it's not perfect right now.

Essentially everything in Production (from Web-apps to Games) should at some point be revisited and improved upon based on DAO feedback.

We are fighting a constant battle of resource vs wanting to deliver high value wins in the most effective way possible.

[fallen vortex]

Every time I see an announcement ping, I hope its the patch

then get dissapointed 😦

[fallen vortex]

it has a full appeals process dw

[cyan olive]

[cyan olive]

you could even argue it is easier to get high elo if there are people with smurfs, as they have above avg elo on those as well, so you get to play vs higher elo opponents, get more points, lose less per game

[vivid stirrup]

do they end midnight utc from 30.-31. or 31.-1.? 😄 cant read that 00:00

[gloomy barn]

0 utc is 30th going into 31st

[cyan olive]

so in 24h 26min?

[vivid stirrup]

how sure are u on that? 😄

[gloomy barn]

25 hrs 26 mins i think. Its 22 utc now

[vivid stirrup]

we should go back to using 23:59 😛

[cyan olive]

oh

just use my timezone, thx

maybe I do remember utc ->cet being +1 one day

[gloomy barn]

Pretty sure lol thats how its worked in any other game i have played that used 0 utc

[cyan olive]

maybe we could annoy webteam to add a timer on website for weekly snapshot @stray gull ^^

[vivid stirrup]

google says that there is no global unanimity for this but most often its what u said, start of the day not end

[gloomy barn]

Yeah cuz military time lol

[vivid stirrup]

@stray gull can u confirm?

[stray gull]

waiting on confirmation from Marketing guys on this 🫡

[dark vine]

For that reason kyc is the best because people can just say brother, sister, parents, nieces... are playing on the same pc. Who knows could even be true but we cant tell. If kyc isnt ok for a person that is fine. Many people in crypto dont like that but even this sector needs some regulations

[gloomy barn]

When is 0 utc? Lol

[fallen vortex]

This is basically how I view it

[zenith mortar]

<t:1706659200:F>

This is what it’s communicated as on docs

Next week will likely be 24 hours later to match up with beyond snapshot

I botched the date in my announcements doing the conversion as well it should’ve been Thursday

[gloomy barn]

Rich Rugged again

Week 1 6 days, Week 2 8 days lol this guy. He is lucky we love him

[cursive echo]

you give the name of your family it comes to the same thing

[dark vine]

The persons really have to exist
You need their identifications
They need to work around taxes
It is at least a higher barrier than me saying I have a brother who plays on the same pc (I dont have a brother)

[cyan olive]

People can use other for kyc as well, unless it is some in person event where people have to perform for rewards, it wont do anything.

[zenith mortar]

Will talk to Kieran again maybe we push it 24 hours so it’s in line

With where it was meant to be

[dark vine]

Sure it does something. You still ask a real person to be part of by jail punishable fraud. If a multi account person who took multiple rewards can be clearly identified we shouldn't talk about a ban alone we should hand the case over to the authority of that country. Sounds harsh? Well, in front of the law it is a crime.

[cyan olive]

Yeah, jail punishable is a bit over the top, how are you gonna prove it?

Idk seems crazy to me, that people here wanna do more serious stuff for couple hundreds dollar, than big companies do in their 6-7 figure esport events.

[dark vine]

If proven that would be the punishment for fraud. The threat that it could be somewhat proveable could often be enough and with kyc you at least have to stand for your actions.

I guess most 6-7 esport events are offline?

[dark vine]

Btw. In germany either money or around 5 years in jail. So, yeah depending on how much ilv is worth

[cyan olive]

ok Bro

[sacred finch]

Imagine having all this work just because a few players are unhappy for losing to someone smurf which are also more likely to be testing new decks and be an easier match 😂

[dark vine]

? Has nothing to do with smurfs?

I just think it is crazy to take fraud (again not the smurfs) easy and just look away.. doesnt matter how small. Blizzard looks away in terms of goldfarming bots is kinda the same sortnof poltic even if that at least isn't fraud.

[sacred finch]

anyway, doesn't make sense for the DAO to have all this work trying to identify frauds from people all around the world

[dark vine]

Yeah, it is always easier to look away and let people break rules..wtf

[worn tree]

That's the spirit my man ❤️

Small QoL feedback:

The bigg birdy, the fucking Kukkaraph! She is so thick and her butty is so swaggy that she doesnt allow us to see proper hex placement. Maybe a visual effect to ensure hex vision could be helppful! Thanks for reading DAO ❤️

[cursive echo]

I will not give any information about my life 'if illuvium asks for kyc I will have to leave the boat and invest in another project

[cursive echo]

I agree 100% with you !!!

@dark vine You're a good player you could easily be in the top 10 don't worry about the smurf

[dark vine]

if you cant entrust Illuvium with at least that you shouldn't invest in the first place because it seems you don't trust that company enough (I hope you stay around eitherway).
It is not about the normal smurfs, have as many accounts on ladder as you want. I have three myself. Thanks for the compliment can give that back 🙂
But my point is that if a person steals cash from your company you would do everything to get a hold of that person and prevent that from happening in the future. Maybe install a camera. Does a camera prevent that from happening again? Ofc. not but maybe in scares some people from trying. That is the same with every possible method we can install to prevent fraud (multi accs with the intention of getting more than 1 reward per person). Just because we are online and in crypto we shouldn't apply different rules or punishments and we still should install every method to prevent criminal behavior. The internet itself has a hugh tendency to overlook bad behavior and with crypto it at least didn't improve...

[cursive echo]

too much control I can't stand but I can understand you

[dark vine]

I see your point with the control as well :/ sadly few people can ask for controlling measures with there behavior :/

[junior geyser]

team link pls

[cursive echo]

Can we ultimately control the people in the top 25? camera or something I don't know🤣 (Personally I don't care if people have more than one count)

[reef basalt]

Its easier to ban the IPs of the people abusing the system than to initiate legal proceedings that would cost more money than the amount allegedly stolen from the company.

Also, the ILV thats allegedly being stolen is actually being given out regardless. The issue here is on who its going to whether it be a legit person who deserves it or someone who gamed the system.

I understand the position on cracking down on smurfs but from whats been shared to the public and to IMC is that Labs has ways to monitor this activity.

[cursive echo]

Thank you for your answer👍

[dark vine]

hmm, is that your way to ask for pics? 😛 😄

well I guess with enough DAU and a game that differentiates better between skill levels it would be a real grind to get to top ten (atm it is mostly 15 -25 games and wait). Therefore for most people it wouldn't be possible to reach top 25 on two accounts within a week and the few people who can do it are mostly known through tournaments (atm we also know nearly every name in the top 50 from tournaments)

So, at that point it wouldn't hurt if we allowed multiple accounts (this is different because in that case the rule changed)

[cursive echo]

The thing that scares me is that I personally want to buy several teams and rent them to good players, does it work?

[dark vine]

hmm, if the team has a renting system in place that allows you to get x% of the rewards I don't see why it shouldn't or if you do that on a private/third party basis thats fine too

[cursive echo]

another question if I lend a team to a player who is already playing will he be banned?

[serene lance]

Please make rounds 1 and 2 get a speed boost 20 seconds in

[coarse echo]

you could try not playing 4 bulwarks round 1 if you want it to be faster 😉

[warped ocean]

how come rhampy/rhamphyre/rhymphite get stunned while they are in the air doing omega? how does a ground stun hit them in the air

[bronze spire]

Hey rich, does name changing effect number of games played for that account? Changed them so smurfs are recognisable but realised it may not show 15 games played anymore (eg searching on illuvidata is by name not account)

[cursive echo]

@dark vine bug ???

[dark vine]

yeah, just restarted

dont know

[tranquil sundial]

frost units apply blind and apply frost, what does applying frost actually do? Slow down enemies?

[reef basalt]

@coarse echo answered this before. The stun is an aoe so it affects the whole area regardless if on ground or flying up.

Same way gyro gets stunned while rolling through an area. He won't stop where he gets stunned but will be stunned as he gets to point B

[edgy flower]

Can we expect a patch at ~same time?:)

[cursive echo]

with my smurff I fell to 1450 😂

[zenith mortar]

Not exactly sure quite yet

[lean ivy]

lol i love this message

[edgy flower]

It will be 3 am for me, so if it's like 5h after - it's fine for me xd

[edgy flower]

Sure you are ahahaha

[edgy flower]

I'm trying to win 1 more to secure and lose place in the top 10 😦

Also hope in next patch Devs will add rule that you can't play 2g in a row with same opp, coz this counter q player is awful

[worldly jolt]

Sounds difficult. I’ll just play palworld overworld instead

[halcyon nova]

any new on the patch eta ????

I thought this week sometime

[zenith mortar]

Should be if everything goes well

[crystal aurora]

why im not in leaderboard? 😦

[bronze spire]

seems bugged for me too

[crystal aurora]

hmm, guess wont be included on getting rewards XD

[bronze spire]

@zenith mortar @coarse echo leaderboard appears to be bugged

[zenith mortar]

Thanks if you can just make a ticket too that would help but I’ll ping the team #❓❓〕support see if they know what’s going on

[bronze spire]

done 🙂

[bronze spire]

any idea how its going to work with accounts with no wallet attached? Do they get taken out and positions adjusted like with smurfs?

[stray gull]

Yep, that's correct. We're taking the first 1000 valid entries that are eligible

[stray gull]

Investigating the Ranked Leaderboard issue.

[edgy flower]

If ppl didn't mark their smurf properly, like you can't say where is main, what will you do? Mark as main acc where played most of the games? Pick now highest and consider it as a main? Else?

[worn thicket]

patch coming tonight with the snapshot and reset?

[cursive echo]

my dream

[granite echo]

Guys do you have any updated guides on affinities and classes? On google i dont like what i find

[worn thicket]

illuvialmaster and Illuvidata have all the ressources you need my friend 👍

[reef basalt]

Try this beta.illuvidata.gg/articles?id=6593f8ca56fabbc27cd9ce9f

[elder ore]

reset is once per season right? not per week

[edgy flower]

Yeah, I think no reset for elo every week

[proven ember]

Reset is when required - absolutely 0 plans to do frequently

So should be a number of months until the next

[reef basalt]

Soft resets for seasons yeah?

[worn tree]

Any plans on adjusting the "low-mid-large-massive" area descriptions by actual number of hexes? And at that, it would be really professional on your end to add a system that enables you to see which units are in range of auras/augments/omegas and which dont. Something similar as the hyper range system you have now, but UX/UI improved.

I know its not a simple task, but I would definitely have that in the roadmap as a mid prio task.

[worn thicket]

my point was just wen patch cauz i wanna test these new changes xD

[main dune]

why sometimes game crash?

and its impossible play, and we need out the game and lose points? its a bug?

[sacred finch]

man this mmr system is so bad right now, I'm 4 W 3 L today and -15 points, playing against people in similar elo 🤦‍♂️

this just makes people want to camp instead of playing

[edgy flower]

I mean if you want to be in the top 10 you need to be better than the 50 win rate

[sacred finch]

yep, if i win one more game i will be 5/3 and with probably +5 points

[edgy flower]

Viper on his main top 1 with 93%, only with 15 games and I don't think it's fair but still xd

[sacred finch]

If you are playing people in similar elo, more than 50% should be enough to climb

[turbid osprey]

out of your 7 matches 5 were against me and i was 20-60 lower than you, its normal you have negative elo from your overall 4-3

[gritty wren]

Its just who can build a better meta team faster, play 15 games perfectly before everyone adopts -> first the week forever no?

[sacred finch]

I don't think this is a big difference, guess the game will be frustrating to play while we don't have a big enough player base then

[sacred finch]

Nope, the rank won't reset every week

[sacred finch]

also sucks that we can qeue each other 5 times in a row xD

[turbid osprey]

impossible to move back up pretty much as we change deck between games to try to counter each other

[cyan olive]

I´d like to avoid same person back to back

the "counter" swap team stuff is annoying

or if bad matchup you have to wait forever to avoid it

[cyan olive]

true, could be higher if I´d need more games

[ancient solstice]

Isn't there a minimum of 25 games?

[cyan olive]

25 on account, 15 per week, my account isn´t new

[ancient solstice]

understood thanks
Because I'm just new 🙂

I can’t even get into the TOP 1k, why is everyone playing so well?)