#beta-discussion
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There are bugs in live with the ice rink already qwq so many server merges and it causes so many lights to appear
has everyone tested eden today's build? android work/fail?
my time is limited, so it would be nice to know (before I embark on a failure)
I just went to Eden yesterday, I'm on android, so it works. I assume it'll work for you too because I did get stuck and crashes too back then.
thanks Andou. I saw in known issues, eden is back to bugged -- but I think that maybe old, not relevant to today's update
Where do you access your friendliness meter? I thought it was beside the settings and shopping cart in upper right, but not seeing it.
from the friend constellation, there should be a heart symbol on the top right corner
@kindred fossil Thank you! Totally misremembered. 
i'm getting a new phone soon, so i'm trying to look into transfering my acc over... i just need the recovery code and a gmail link right?
I was told sky destroys your phone :pThink:
that tru?
Yes, I think it should work that way for beta also. At least for iOS.
Beta is known for being buggy and some updates have caused overheating. But as long as you’re observant of that (and keep bug reporting it!), you should be fine.
There's an update for beta? When did the new update come out??
yesss i meant sky in general lmao, i know it uses aloottt of battery power lol, I was made fun of for using it on my phone 
If you’re wondering about the game in general it’s better to use #questions-and-help Especially since there can be huge differences between the two apps.

I don’t know how to interpret that emoji. Sorry. 
I use it as a "oof"
That is on them not you. Sky is a beautiful game 

Yeah, don’t listen to stupid people who try to put you down. You do you.
Either one should be fine, but the more options you have, then the easier it will be to recover your account in the chance that something goes wrong. Best wishes, and have fun flying on your new phone! ❤️
Hey I had another question when ever I’m going to get hit by krill I go and try to do the home glich but it’s not working and I get krilled anyways and lose wings and I’m getting more frustrated about and so I was wondering... Did they fix that glich as well? (Also this is in the normal game)
u can avoid krills attack from the home option in the emote menu, so yes and no, they fixed it but not entirely since it wasn't their intentions i believe
Do seasonal candles convert to normal ones when a season ends or do they convert to the next season's candles?
They convert to regular candles, just like in live
has anybody seen any dormant ts lately? i want to test which ones still have their "ghost" memories visible. i haven't been able to see blow kiss even though i can pick up its spirit circle and fly it to the temple in forest 
What is the eden bug people are talking about? Is it the one where you don't die - you keep repeating the end sequence multiple times?
Does anyone have a link to the season of dream spirit trees? I wanted to see the latest version to plan my spending once it hits live

Are you looking for a friend or a feature ?
Wym
@spark lance I think they might still be undergoing changes... But as of now, I don’t think any changes were made
Please don't discuss entering village in the live version. this is beta channel for beta discussion
All beta updates are 800MB :')
Wait really- I never check how much updates are
I might delete beta sky after this session then, I don’t want my storage becoming too full 
but MB is smaller than GB, so your storage is probably okay
....probably
Guys, hi! When new season will officially start on global version?
jan 4
Why do I feel like everyone’s going to absolutely adore the Postman
adorable I tell you
where yall waiting for juggle
Hello everyone! So I finally was able to remember the order of the notes in the 19th music sheet,but can't get the pace right 
I also don't have a pipa yet
Postman is that one person who develop a crush on someone but too shy to admit it so they just... silently admire their crush from far away...
So yeah you know why people will adore them 
But...but the yeti hermit...they’re so fluffy!
Either them or Yeti
or both
I can see them being a very popular pairing and I support it
Postman is still my favorite above the yeti 

Best for me is Performer
just
everything about Performer except the strong lack of Actor boots
WHAT Nobody told me that the sheets are different for other instruments 
Ideally, you should bring a few friends together and play.
There are usually four versions of each sheet - 1st voice (guitar, piano, etc), 2nd voice (flute, horn etc), drums and bass!
(I love how bass has its separate version ghgh)
Yo guys, TS bug still going?
I knew that it will be different for a drum for example but when I started playing on a horn I got confused
Does anyone know where the backflip spirit(Valley) is in the beta
In the same location as in live, at the citadel 
in live it is in the flying race
Have you updated live ?
yeah
There are no spirits in the races anymore in beta or live, they all got moved. Proud stance and bow are in the coliseum, backflip is now in the citadel
I spent 20 mins in the coliseum looking for it 😂 for it to be in the citadel (thank you both)
Hello people how you all feel hope sky is the safe place for you and you feel calm (just don’t let krill krill you’re fun)
I kinda miss that the spirits aren’t in the race anymore. It has such a thrill knowing I had to look closely while sliding/flying and the discovery of not knowing that they were in the race
what’s the soulmate spell do :0
Since it appear to have a similar function to the You and I spells (requiring both people to link the physical pin), the spell doesn't currently work in beta. 
nooooo
It currently doesn't work, so we don't know. But according to the shop, its supposed to give off a special effect when holding hands with your soulmate, or the other player that has the other pin
Hey! I'm looking for new friends in beta. You can just somehow like this message and I'll send you my qr. Or send it to me 
Er, mind if I direct you to #beta-looking-for-group instead? This channel is meant for beta discussion specifically 
i wonder if they'll make this season's instrument free?
but then again following from previous instrument patterns they usually arent free and i cant remember a time when they were
both belonging and rhythm had free instruments iirc. but that's because they had more than 1 instrument in the season. i'm not sure about gratitude and lightseekers, but they might have been the same
oK so revision time
- gratitude's valley spirit had a free bell
- belonging's forest spirit had a free mandolin
- rhythm's vault spirit had a free xylophone
uhuhuhuhuh--why are the boats just vibing~
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i wanna see boats vibing-
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694495641241518111/790352615308656660/screenrecording.mp4 if you wanna see lol
for some reason it didn't embed in #beta-screenshots-videos
when they were first introduced they would jump even higher, this one went back in and forth between orbit and home: #beta-screenshots-videos message
Sorry very weird question but there is no way to get into the current season in live? (I just saw a dude do the spinning emote in live and asked them and he said through the tunnel but there’s a cut scene to teleport to the season the actual season isn’t down there?)
They must have hacked some way, but it is not available through normal means 😊
Thought so thank you! 
Is the office free to enter in the days of feast? For someone without the cape?
Is the founder's cape still up for purchase during those times?
Yup! I think everything can be purchased normally in addition the the days of feast items and the iap!
Has anyone got a spirit tree for the days of feast spirit?
Thank you so much!
I do, can I dm you it?
Sure! Thank you ^^
Another thing but i forgot if the days of feast was next reset or not?? Is it? Sorry for dragging the conversation but
Yes, the first day of the event is the 21st
Thank you! You're all a blessing! It's already the 21st for me. Timezones... darn australia.
Oh haha then the next reset I mean 🤦♀️ 😂 and no problem!
It's alright, I'm used to always being ahead of (almost, darn you new zealand) everybody!
🤩 I love New Zealand 😊 Can’t believe it’s summer in that area, it’s winter here 😂 anyway this is off topic and I have to go so bye XD
what's it with people and getting into the village in live? some say they got access and some say some people hack, what's actually going on with it? cuz I'm sure the area is completely locked? I could be completely wrong 
For Australia I find it helps to think that whatever day TGC has set an event to be that the event will occur on the reset of the date they specified
Yeah! I kinda just go "aight 7pm is when stuff goes DOWN"
Helloo 
Does anyone know where I can find the 4th node spirit for the village quests?
Outside the collesseum
The only way to get in is to break terms of service
Does anyone know how much the snowflake cape and antlers cost? They'll go really well with the yeti outfit when that becomes available
think they were both $15.99?
Oof. Nevermind then
Are prices of spirits expensive? 
Sorry if it’s been asked but.. is new season in live supposed to start at reset? 😭😭
In January sometime.
At reset starts the days of feast event, if that’s where you’re getting that number from 
Ops
Is there any way to relieve the memories after collecting each quest? Or are replaying the quests the only thing we can do
You can only replay the quest, not relive the memories sadly 
Anyone still having issues in collecting winged lights in Sanctuary? I find it seems to work I’d you don’t move at all after tapping on it.
I’m tempted to do the trials in Beta, but I’ll abandon chibi for Water
I don’t like the sound of it
are we gonna see the star shaped light on the candles after reset today in live?
Assumingly
probably yes
People who are glitching to be in new season area are getting reported👀
as they should be.
💯
that's why I don't like facebook groups. they're so toxic. someone said that it's a tradition to glitch into the new area. like bruh
I love how decked-out my character looks!
How can i gift a friend with the Santa hat?🎅
What do you mean?
I want tô buy the Santa hat and gift it tô a friend
aww. unfortunately there's no function of gifting it yet
You cannot gift in app purchases. The only thing you can gift is the adventure pass
🥺🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭😭😭 omg thats so sad
I visited my friend and they happened to be there. I hope I don't get in trouble :(
They might have you can get banned as well there are Prospectors their watching the realm so
Eek!! They should block you from visiting people who are there if it's that serious
Yo my friend sent me money for the season pass An i got It !!🤞❤😍😔
"your friend is in a place they shouldn't be, so should u"
If you didn't hack to get in, and only got in by accident, nothing will happen to you. The devs look at every report.
Yeah thats why noones allowed till the season starts glitching is almost an illilegal move in the pvw
I don't like how these people make you feel bad when you call out to them.
Is all oobing technically illegal?
If its out of bounds its illegal
You can't even glitch in by oob, since the warp isn't even on. Anyone who gets into the new area is breaking terms of service. Anyways, back to beta topic 
Oob isn't against the rules, otherwise the devs would have patched valley coliseum 
yup. as long as the oob doesn't affect the game and gameplays it's all good
Heck yeah so anyone Else Have The pre orderder Season Pass for season of Dreams😍😍
Bunch of smart folks on Here!!
Send me Qr Codes?? For sky Love??💛🔥
you gotta know your stuff in beta, how else do we survive the crashes? 
oobs aren’t bad at all
Thats Also true ive never been in beta before either..
you can read more about beta in #beta-faq
if you're looking for friends in live, #looking-for-group-live would be the best place to find other players!
Awsome!!
Thank you very Much Im Stil New To This Discord App an i Love it so an so..💙 i appreciate the assistance, i always love Help".
welcome to the server then!
you're in the beta channel, where players discuss new content that is currently being tested, so lots of spoilers here 
#general-sky-discussion and #cozy-sky-discussion are great places to talk to other players in the live version, and #questions-and-help is great if you have any questions. 
Ok, so what does it mean when I meet a moth who has things they shouldn’t have? I find lots of moths with that white furry cape....?
There seems to be so many waves of newly born moth these past few days...
if you find a player that you think is breaking tos, you can report them. tgc looks at every report, so if they didn't do anything wrong, nothing will happen to them. although that cape is almost impossible to have legitimately... only a few players got it due to a ts bug.
This person needed me to prey for them in the vault to get the levitation emote, and they only had 4 stars on the cape. They also had the swing. I will go report. I have seen a few.
what cape?
well, the swing was available in beta for testing, but a new player probably shouldn't have it
ok moving on from this topic now 
could u send a picture
The white furry cape. So where do I report? I can’t find the instructions.
!reportplayer
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
thanks my keyboard wasnt cooperating
Trying to upload the pic... says it is compressing file.
how do you do the third quest? im very confused on where to go and what to do
I've seen videos all over the place about getting spirits chased, does anyone know anything about that?
yeah u get kidnapped by spirits
It seems that several people already got expressions from various Spirits
Go to the coliseum using the boat on the right side
what do we do in the coliseum?
i go to it and i dont see anything? idk what im missing
Hi im wondering if the feast table works like bonfire (in terms of holding tree burning or recharging)?
Got a quick question about the new candle system, how does it work? I'm not sure what the difference is
these are from a few days ago but i believe the idea is still similar
New Daily Light FAQ by Iguana
#questions-and-help message
New Candle Collection In A Nutshell by lynx
#beta-discussion message
'Candles Forged' Graph Regarding the new Daily Light System by Oasis
#screenshots-and-videos message
there's information in #beta-announcements
thank you both!
how much is the spells in days of feast spirit tree? 2 candles each?
many people activate certain spirit bug and then there's me who can't even managed to activate a single one for some reason. Which is weird, y'know.
which command you use on spoiler marking?
!spoiler
Oh ... I'm going to have to look for one that has already been done, Thanks for trying
!textspoiler
To spoiler tag text, highlight your text and select “Mark as spoiler”, or type || on either side of your text ||like this||
!picspoiler
To spoiler tag a picture, rename the file name to begin with “SPOILER_”, or (desktop only) click the “Mark as spoiler” box when you upload it. To rename on iOS, export image to the Files app > rename > share to Discord.
Thank you all
does the season launch in live at reset? ,'0
season lauches on jan 4th, right after days of feast ends on the 3rd
ohh okay, thank you! 😳
Anyone know what the togetherness pin is going to do? Rn it just raises your arms
the pin, like the “you and I” pin from the anniversary merch drop, is meant to be used with a partner (your “soulmate”) which is why it doesn’t work in beta
aww. i'm not gonna be a santa today. I have work until 12am T^T
Hey people hope you all feeling good this morning (to me it’s morning) and hope you will enjoy this sweet memorise in sky chef kiss
Morning everyone 🕊🤍🕊
how to get to a new location? Please help 😭
The Village Of Dreams?
Go to VoT, at home hub, turn right you'll see the tunnel to connect you there 
I did the math of how many sc we can get until the season ends in beta and I’m
(1,092)
If you are new in beta, it is valuable to TGC that you find your way there yourself and then give feedback on your experience.
Maybe you forgot which channel we are in...? 
Ahahaaa, looks like, cause I'm driving my car when I replied that question. Anw, thank you.
omg yay we'll be rich
Im scared that we will probably get reset those candles lmao I hope not tho
I’ve learned my lesson not to hoard beta candles because a fatal bug might happen and all candles could reset at any time 
sigh let’s hope not this time 
I tend to spend all my candles upgrading friends
technically I could have completed all the constellations in beta by now if I’d put any effort into it. but instead I have about 30+ people with piggyback and at least 6 with both levels of bear hug
is it okay to only play on sky beta :0 ive only been grinding on beta and not live
There’s no one ubering 😦 can someone help me with seasonal candles
LOL KAI SORRY I REALLY WANTED TO SEE HOW BEARHUG INTERACTS
No driving and chatting! Be careful out there! 
nah bearhug is my favorite and I will unlock it with everything that moves until I run out of candles don’t be sorry
I have dictation on my Car system, all good. thanks for the concern anw. 
@tardy mantle the candle placement hasn’t changed since the season started and they’re basically all in the first area of the realm.
Wait a sec. Did the ultimate cape get a revamp? IT LOOKS MAJESTIC!
oh what does it look like now?
So it’s just the first area in all realms ?
IT LOOKS MORE LIKE A MAJESTIC BIRB! 
More or less. None are hidden or way off the beaten track. Just count to 8 and you’ve found them all.
I reeeally love this season’s choice of colors. I love the port wine red with gold highlights. It looks so elegant and festive!
Agree
Ok i see
same thought

Please don’t ping people for post made many hours/days ago.
https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1 do concepts count as beta? even if not i highly recommend checking out this website, it's a compilation of sky concept drawings and generally fascinating sky content from one of sky's former artists (tom zhao). plus there's a ton of (non-canon) info for any lore enthusiasts 
there's a good 15 minutes of drawings on here 
Did my own CR in beta to test for myself and see if what ppl have been saying about 16 candles is true..
And it is. 😔😭 hopefully its not permanent
#beta-bugs-ios #beta-bugs-android report that, there shouldn't be any less wax than before (and it lets tgc know there's less wax from the new system) 
i somehow managed to get 17 candles today even though i wasnt able to get wax from 8 player door, and waxes from both big plants in wasteland (i did however had to run to water trial to get the small wax there to reach 0 chevron
)
honestly it's just really interesting to me how much the King shows up on old sky concepts
All the plants are out in wasteland today. That may be why
ah right i forgot about that lmao
but the last 2 candles were both from races in valley
just wanted to see if i can get candles from races at 0 chevron lol
almost santa time in live. omg
whats the price for the navy blue ascended cape as of now?
75 hearts iirc
Report your findings 
Who else really likes the friendliness scale

it’s not beta, this site is in the #lore-discussion-spoilers pins 
i think it's cool but i don't really see the use in it
you can usually tell who's a moth and who's not with their cosmetics so there's not really a need for a meter
I really don’t get the find a staff member in the office thing. I can’t find anybody in the office except for a glowing spirit, and he says he’s going for a walk.
woah. thanks for this. it's gorgeous
Aw man, did they turn down the intensity of the star flare for candle cakes? Ah for live
Go to where the spirit you get the cape from is, the Christmas spirit is right next to them
Why do i not see antlers to buy in live? Has it been postponed?
To encourage kindness to new players maybe?
End of season of dreams in Live. Read #beta-faq for more info 
Thanks but when is season of dreams ending?
In 3 months something like that I think. Before a new season, so we can test it in Beta for bugs
I wonder if there's gonna be a new green cape?
for the next season?
I meant more like the new yellow red and cyan ones since i saw a new white one as well
oh! i think there was a green cape at one point, so maybe
(and even if there wasn't it's still not entirely off the table)
Either way the new yellow is pretty great, an upgraded version of each default cape would be cool
yellow is my favourite
although i wish it looked as good as it did everywhere as it does in low light
What happens after we finish testing? Do we keep beta?
you'll have to accept another invite from #beta-signup-info
Dang
It's been a while since i visited beta, did they change the ult gift mask or my eyes deceive me?
@cloud drift i assume it wants you to relive one of the office spirits, haven't seen that quest before 
no, you just need to go to the office spirit that sells DoF cosmetics
Discussion on Live gameplay in #general-sky-discussion please 
you can see plenty in #beta-screenshots-videos there is no need for a beta tester to DM you information that is publicly available.
Hii
@spark lance if your request was to ask beta players to take you somewhere in live, could you please delete your message? This is something beta players cannot do in Live, and what you're requesting is for someone to break ToS to take you to a restricted area that is not accessible through legitimate means.
Is the snowflake cape not in live?
it's available on dec 28-January 3
!noflake
The Snowflake Cape will be available starting on December 28th at 00:00 PST (UTC-8), and will be available in the in-app shop until 23:59 PST (UTC-8) on January 3rd.
Aww I just realized the change on the ult mask it looks like the beak got shorter and it’s cuter now 
I feel empty inside after completing all the memories of dreams 
Omg I got power cut and mobile towers went down and everything ..even sky shutdown 😭 so glad it only lasted 1 minute but took 10 minutes for mobile data to come back 😭
Me too mines been gone for 20 minutes,That was scary.
My electric was only off for 20 seconds but sky automatically said no 😂,phew I’m so glad it’s back 😊
That’s a huge power cut for it to stretch all the way to you 😱 ..... happy days we can play sky again 🤍🕊️🤍
I think i got 18,5 candle yesterday after an almost full run except dreams and eden. I didn’t do Dreams cause i wanted to see how much sunday wasteland gives in beta if i do it last compared to live, which was around 1,5 candle all together (including both big plants).
Did anyone checked how much more can we get in beta now that we have double candle cakes? I assume not much.
Checking today .. halfway through .. 🤍
Did u do both races? And how much did you get for them?
I did literally everything from isle to vault + ark, before i did wasteland. I didn’t tap on the candle in the meantime cause it annoys me to see the rapidly dropping effectivity, so I don’t know how much did i get for the races specifically. I only collected those before wasteland to have a clear image of how full is my candle icon before i start there.
So there's a new update at beta.
Hmm 🤔 Are the new tier 2 white and black capes up for testing in beta
not yet
I could have sworn I saw a horns cosmetic to go with the yeti hair but I'm not seeing any indication of it anywhere.
They were kind of stubby and broken off on one side.
Does this ring a bell to anyone?
Yes, they should be with the yeti.
Oh right at the bottom of the hair section.
they're in the accessories section of the closet
how many wax does village give?
and slope
Ok. I was only asking because the only other good alternative would be the raindeer antlers . . .
And I ain't spending money on that
There's 2 candle cakes
One at the top and one at the bottom
There's also a small cluster of candles near the top as well
1 candle cake on village and 1 on hermit slope?
That is correct. Yes
I was kinda hoping that the wedge design of the ascended capes look different.. 
only the black and white cape tier 2 had one like a month ago while being tested, not now I think
must've been placeholders
triggering the light fragment quests which used to give wax and completing them send a server error screen 😆
Another candle forge adjustment in the update. Any tips on how to go about a candle run that is good for testing? I only collected home candles today
Is there a new update?
I might've to wait since I'm android then...
@spark lance My guess would be to just do a full candle run and see if everything’s works fine 
Im not sure to do race or races last in Valley. There seems to be some confusion about the amount of wax and/or candles you get from the races with the new system
And the candles from hotspring too
those only?
Village total candle is 1 candle cake village, 1 candle cake Yeti house, bundle of candles on 2 rocks in hotspring area. If that is what you wanted to know
The candles in coliseum also count if im right, at the pray area for the season quest. If you would count those for additional candles added in Sky
When does the TS come to beta? Agh sorry if this an annoying question ee
Usually the same time it does in live.
I don't have any active friends on beta, is it against the rules to ask for friends here?
U can ask for friends to add in #beta-looking-for-group. Asking for friends is oke, but asking for trading isnt allowed
Thanks! I'll try to recruit some friends on that channel!
It’s kind of funny how one quest today says “the office”, when we’re asked to spoiler tag it on the server... 🤔
I got 1 candle for each race at the beginning of my candle run just now. Is that how it is supposed to count?
Iirc yes the races still only give 1 candle
that's true! I didn't even realize it. TGC is spoiling themselves!
Is it the same at the end of a candle run 1 candle for each race?
without having looked it up I actually had no clue where it was or how to get there (earlier I mean, when I went there for Halloween). honestly not sure how newbies are meant to find it without being led there 😅
I flew at the wall in Vault as a Moth back then. Just being terribly bad at flying made me find the office 
It is an Easter Egg, after all.
Hi
i found it by reading a message candle as a moth, no one led me there, just a random message candle i happen to read at vault. convenient!
what is the new cändl förging systëm
whats different
does anyone know if our current candles will be converted into season of dreams candles or if we will have to do a separate type of candles everyday?
What do you mean by “current candles”? We have both regular and seasonal candles in beta; the seasonal ones will be converted into the regular ones like they do in live once the season ends. And if you mean, if they’ll get converted into seasonal candles in live - beta and live are both separate apps, and they are not linked in any way, so you’ll start the season from the very beginning in live once it comes. Unlessss you meant something entirely different, then feel free to further explain please 
It’s described in #beta-announcements
The tiered candles. There are 3 candle tiers. You have to forge 5 candles for it to go down a tier. When your at the third tier you get candles faster than normal. But it slows down.
ah sorry, i think i forgot about all of these as i'm not used to them T-T
(i don't actually have the beta but the question was beta related so someone in a higher role asked me to put all of the questions related here)
i wanted to do some research over the season of dreams and i've been looking at youtube videos about it, and the candles at the top have a different color and appearance, so that's why i was concerned T-T
Ahh, no worries! The season of dreams candles-wise will work just the way all the previous seasons have; you’ll collect the seasonal candles by doing quests and collecting seasonal wax from one of the realms. No need to worry about your regular candles, they’ll stay with you as they are
(unless you spend them on whatever of course ww)
If you want to know what we're testing right now, #beta-updates has a lot of info.
But gentle reminder that even though most of us like answering questions, this channel isn't supposed to be a q&a about the things we are testing :pSkyLove:
There's only 3 childs of light in the new seasonal area right? what! 
okee, thank you both sm T-T
- i'll keep in mind

Does anyone have the map with the wg of the village?
read pins ^^
Ah alright thanks
Oops I confused it for the pin. My bad
It's not that hard to confuse Star pins and Discord pins to be honest
what’s up with the candle cakes in valley today? i see 2 in the social space?
Double treasure candles event
thought that meant one set in 2 different realms?
Maybe they just changed it up.
fair
No idea but well it's still double sooo.. nevermind I guess?
uhmm is the update supposed to require an entire gigabyte to download? 😅
edit :: what?? wack :/
Every beta update makes you redownload the entire game
hi guys, it's 12:30am and still at work. couldn't run T^T
Hi everyone, hope your enjoying the game, Where can i find tiers 2 capes prices ?
theres a running joke about how it always takes 800 mb and to prep your storage if youre ever gonna be a beta tester, lol
as for why they make you redownload the whole game, ive heard its to avoid certain errors. ive heard, though, not directly from a dev post or anything so take it with a grain of salt
ohhh oki oki
just multiply base cape price by 3
@steady pond oh thank you, that simple :)
Days of Mischief leftover, pehaps? and it triggered somehow
I wanna have krills in the office too, but they just won’t appear
||you lucky folks||
I miss the krill coming out of the toilet 
How did people in beta get the snowflake cape??
They bought it.
it was available for a short time in the IAP shop in beta so lots of people have it legitimately because they checked IAP shop
Ohhh, I didn't see it
!tstime
!ts I think is what you're looking for? or maybe !tsbeta but I can only do one command
The next Traveling Spirit is scheduled to arrive on December 24 at 00:00 Pacific Time (UTC -8:00)
You can read how Traveling Spirits work here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits
I met à really nice person qwq I always come across people from the Chinese serverss
does anyone know if the snowflake cape is coming to live in the winter event or the next season?
It’ll come during the days of feast but it’s staggered to release halfway through the event
December the 28th
!noflake
The Snowflake Cape will be available starting on December 28th at 00:00 PST (UTC-8), and will be available in the in-app shop until 23:59 PST (UTC-8) on January 3rd.
i am boggled that the peeking cape isn't pass-locked, it's so good
f2p players will have alot of fun with it 
i love how even sky beta even forces updates
"update or go to beta jail"
A surprising number of ppl don’t check for updates in beta
Always wondered why the snowflake cape is made available on a later date and not with the rest of the DoF IAPs? Was there a reason behind it? 
Maybe a New Years thing .. dunno either .. it also might make it easier for those who can’t afford it all at once ..
maybe staggered release so those who save up rl money for IAPS aren't buying $40 worth of IAP all at once? I'm just speculating form a different angle though 
Delete this before it's too late 🔥👀
a lot of good cosmetics have been made available without the ap requirement. people liking a cosmetic won't make it automatically switch to ap lock
✨M A R K E T I N G✨
The snowflake cape is supposed to be for the New Years event actually
(I think)
probably because it comes after christmas
Hello everyone! wanted to ask, can any of you know what the developers were inspired by creating a new season? 👉👈
we as players only have guesses on their inspirations based on what it reminds us of. Likely the seasons are all inspired by many different things
eg?
for this season, there's a spirit that seems to have been inspired by east asian culture, and then there's a yeti
every season has a mix of inspirations, but you're free to interpret them however you want
iirc a new season generally begins being planned as a new one starts, so tgc is already starting to work on the spring season 
People have noticed this season has a lot of East Asian inspiration, for example the dancing performer’s cosmetics, and the peeking postman’s pants, but like Aeras said, it’s up to interpretation 
kinda hoping the next season is in forest 
like for prophecy, people thought the water spirit was a goat,or a penguin, or a turtle. it's inspired by a turtle dragon, but you can think of it as whatever you want. the game is left pretty open for interpretation
There’s a lot of Asian culture in sky because there’s a lot of Asian TGC developers
Jenova Chen himself is Chinese
Vault needs the expansion more 
imagine a vault season, but the entrance is at the summit
i think vault would be better for an autumn or winter season tho, it kinda feels like it would fit better thematically. then again prophecy was in isle so 
forest shares a lot of the kind of 'plants and new life' thing spring has so i think it would just fit better
forest and vault are the only two realms left that haven't had locational seasons ~~unless next season's gonna be in eden
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The archives in vault came from belonging
And so did the underground cavern in forest
Seraph but that’s more a location they created for a spirit... in that case all realms already have such additions — for example the area they made for the boogie spirit in prairie
I think maybe Claws means like Enchantment onward where all the seasonal spirits were in the one realm?
archives is the ground floor 4 player door right?
The boogie spirit was in isle, and adding a small thing is different from adding a large new map
Even if the season didn’t specifically revolve around it
I think its the part beyond the 2 player door
archives is the 2 player door in the social area of vault
i think the archives / sunny forest could arguably be a pretty big map, even if it's restricted in terms of exploration it doesn't take away from the fact that they're not small additions
Fair enough.. but I feel like when people are thinking of seasonal areas they’re really looking for an area that expands the story of forest.. or the story of vault...
like how the village gives you a glimpse of life outside the stadium in valley.. idk I consider the archives and the sunny forest extension more for spirits then an encompassed seasonal location tbh...
Who knows, we could have another one of those all realm seasons, they did say the format changes with the season. Enchantment, sanctuary, prophecy, and dreams have all be close knit to the area 
thanks all💙💙💙
that's what i mean by 'locational seasons'. big areas with all the spirits that expand the story of sky kind of maps 
I really love how the village is the area we see when we’re sliding down the slide part to the stadium in the races... like it ties the two together so well.. valley just used to be the Olympic stadium... but even cities that host the olympics have residential areas around it
It was soo nice to have that this season.. I can’t even say it enough haha
I absolutely adore this season. the only thing that i'm a little sad about is the fact that the village is so empty... logically, i know that having random spirits wandering around the village would probably cook our devices, but i wish the village was a bit more lively. well, maybe another season 
I am curious still on what more this coming season has to offer as i think ktjn once mentioned that the 2nd part of the season is still on the making or something like that? 
Yea aeras, that was what I felt too :( it feels so weird to see it so empty.. maybe at least as the season progresses, I thought we’d get an audience...
I have to say... when I saw the postman spirits memories.. I genuinely thought we were going to have sled rides as we relived more quests haha
Im guessing like after all the realm based season finsh, maybe they would do something else with the seasons? Who k nows
From what I’m seeing there’s a lot of plans to renovate the light system :O and in the update ktjin did say they wanted to make the system more dynamic as well.. I’ll really curious how that’s going to work
I kinda like how empty the village is
It gives me the feeling of a ghost town
I lowkey liked the glitch (I’m pretty positive it was a glitch) where the little skater girl kept skating after the cutscene
It gave a really haunting feel to a very hopeful and fun season
why did they give us a quest we cant do
which one?
I did all of them without issues today.
which quest are you having issues with exotic?
sorry the cooldown but the one with the office
it makes me sad how empty beta servers are
You can do the one in the office. I'm sorry, I don't understand. Did it not work for you? Or what issue were you having?
i thought it was the christmas spirit
I don't think there ever was a Christmas spirit, but there was another NPC in the office. But I think the quest was actually just to see the regular one, because that worked for me.
Do you mean that we can’t ‘find’ the holiday spirit in beta right now? If so, it’s because the daily quests run together with live. Also it’s just one seasonal candle, I don’t think we’re short on seasonal candles in beta :’)
Walk to the end where the christmas spirit stood and you complete the task. I’ll put a screenshot in #beta-screenshots-videos now for a visual
Anybody know who the next ts will be?
!tsbeta
Traveling spirits in beta have different scheduling than in live, and have no bearing on future traveling spirits.
Check #news for announcements and save up your candles!
did anyone find a candle shrine in the village?
Question are we not getting snowflake cape in live or?
The cape will be released on the 28th
Thank you!
Can someone tell me the exact start and finish dates of season of dreams?
it starts on January 4th. we don't know when it ends. but that's a question better suited in #questions-and-help 
That's a question better suited for #seasons-events-chat or #questions-and-help . beta testers don't have access to TGC's schedule, other than what is already in #news (as linked)
Thank you 
Well, it is a literal ghost town
aaaaaaaaa I need to do stuff in Beta
when is the season coming to live?
sometime in january, we don’t know what day yet
The new season starts in Live on January 4th.
Soo which ts next?
We won’t know until tomorrow
!tsbeta
Traveling spirits in beta have different scheduling than in live, and have no bearing on future traveling spirits.
Check #news for announcements and save up your candles!
@sour ginkgo, soliciting and offering currency or trades is against the rules in this server. Please edit or remove your message.
😒😒😒
You agreed to the rules when you joined the server, it doesn’t matter if it’s beta or not
I don't know if this has been discussed already, but is the ultimate mask from Dreams more red now or is that a bug?
Hey guys van someone tell me how much wl there is un the village please ?
Yes, they changed the design for both ultimate gift. The mask is more red and the pattern is changed as well. The cape is more red.
Hey sorry, I have a question. Did TGC spoke about the travelling spirits """problem""" in a channel?(I mean that they want to make travelling spirits blocked if u dont buy the AP.. sorry for bad english I'm a little tired😓)
Whew, thank you!
you can read about some of the change in these beta update notes: #beta-announcements message the change is intentional, but you can leave feedback on the new system in #beta-feedback or ask questions/discuss here 
I know I'm late to the party but I just got the bird cape today and it's so cool o.o
Anyone seen this little house before?? It was so cute but no idea why it was there lol
Yes it’s been there for a long time 
!!!NUMBERS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE!!!
ok wow I have done a lot of testing today, here is today's finding for the new candle rate (let's call it rate v2 and the rate v1 for couple days ago)
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Nothing has changed IF you forge your candle immediately. It remains rate v1 as follow:
Chevron 3: 75wax
Chevron 2: 150 wax
Chevron 1: 300 wax
Chevron 0: unknown(probably 600)
Valley Race gives 150 wax -
Rate v2 applies when you have a red dot on your candle meter and not forging the candle !!!This is a bug!!! Rate v2 is a lot faster than v1 but it runs only in background. The exact rate is unable to test since I can't see its progress
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Valley Race gives EXACTLY 1 candle, even at Chev 0 (equivalent of a lot of wax). This is very likely to be a bug and unintended
My beta won’t load, is it servers or my WiFi?
me too
Impressive, good job 
yea i got too
Mine too, maybe server’s issue
It’s a sad day when you wait for 20 minutes for someone to help you with a two player door and nobody passing by will take the time to stop.

where to find the invisible cape?
I think ||it’s vault elder thing like ultimate gift I’m not sure||
Hey everyone! If you want to be friends, dm me!
beta tester please do consider testing the bug that I have listed.
Because of the nature of candle system, it takes time to reach low tier chevron... I don't think a lot of people is willing to test it
You need to get the Vault elder hair in order to have access to the invisicape. It resides with the Vault elder in orbit.
The Valley race bug I confirm I still got a full candle doing race when I was at zero chevron.
It took me literally FOREVERRRRRRR to get to 0 chevron without doing a race... this is a very time consuming test. If they just release the number our job would be a lot easier
I just did full cr and at some point it would get to 0 chevron 
I have question. If we do candle run without forge the candle will the chevron still running to zero?
Because of the bug that it remains slow candle rate when you forge candles immediately, it took me forever.
I did one race at 1-chevron and the other at 0-chevron. Both got me a full candle.
Yes it will. Chevron meter depletes when you have collected enough amount of wax. With or without forging a candle. This is intended
So it's still the same thing i mean like how you do candle run now in live version?
Not quite. Couple days ago the candle rate is extremely slow after the 10th candle. They changed the rate now but here's are the new bugs:
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The new rate only applies when you don't forge the candle
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Valley race gives 1 exact candle at all chevron level
So yes! Not forging the candle (keeping the red dot) WILL make more candle but not in the way you think it is. It is a bug and it doesn't appear in the previous version. The chevron meter works fine.
Zero so you mean if you don’t forge the candle the chevron go down slower than if we forge the candle immediately?
No. As I said, the chevron meter doesn't go down slower. It always go down by 1/5 when you collect enough wax for a candle. It's the candle rate bug. You need more wax to forge a candle when you don't have a red dot. It has nothing to do with the chevron system itself
Let's put it this way. Since I know how this bug works I can make a lot more candle everyday than people don't know
So probably that's why i got 18+ candle yesterday after a full run while my friends only got 15ish 
In the live version, I forged about 18 candles. I even reached 19 candles which must have been due to the extra candles or plants in the game...
I even noticed that when the candle bar is near the top, it fills up without you collecting anything else.
Please report bugs about the candle system that you encounter. I think this is quite crucial but nobody talks about it because only an extremely few do full CRs (according to TGC, which I don't agree
almost all of my friends do full CR. They either don't do anything, or full CR. idk why they say we are extremely few.. or maybe we really are
Maybe... whenever I finish about how many days of full candle runs, I literally just stop playing for about 2-3 days.........
This is why I missed the Lightseekers Traveling spirits....
I mean, the devs literally have analytics on all players. They know who is doing or is not doing something in game. Your and your friends all do full candle runs, but that bias is shaping your views and applying it to the entire player base
yea that's exactly what I mean, thanks for pointing that out. I just want to point out that these extremely few full CR players are still a lot of people
Hey guys, I want to know that how many wings in the village?
It is amazing how you guys are willing to do full CR for testing. In most companies this is a paid job. Anyway, for testing this chevron thing maybe TGC can add a special place with a lot of waxes to collect, or simply put treasure candles in all realms all locations. I feel this will make tester’s job a lot easier and eliminate quite a few bugs before ppl actually do full CR to test it more.
That does seem quite a good suggestion...
That's probably our own echo chamber. Majority of my friends does full runs regularly. What i was wondering about if they meant it as very few ppl do full runs at all ( once in a while) or very few does full runs regularly.
Do you guys like the name Hermit Valley or Yeti Slope?
when they say extremely few tbh I kinda feel left out
Both names are alright.
I definitely prefer Yeti Slope 
i mean.. there are about 16,000 beta testers. but there are over 50 million players in live, so what we see and think may not align with the majority of players
Ktjn specified that most players get less than half of the available free candles daily in the questions and help channel (so like less than 10)
Yeah Ktjn said it’s the extreme minority, and the ppl in this server will tend to be the more extreme players because we are invested enough to be involved in the community this way
That's a fair point with discord. :SkyBow:
I usually do full runs in beta and don't in live, now i have an internal conflict. :pFIRE:
(My emotes are on vacation don't mind them)
Ay, I don't do full runs in live either, I just have so much progress in the beta to the point where it feels exhausting to do more on the live 
I do full runs in live and half candle run in beta (until 1 chevron)
I don't do full runs and my best friend is so casual he'll usually do dailies and cakes and that's all he has time for. TGC has analytics on time spent, candles forged etc. People on the discord and furthermore people taking the time to be in beta are absolutely an outlier to begin with
wait.. so having 0 chevron shouldn't give out a full candle per race in valley?
According to Ktjn race is intended to no longer give one full candle each with the chevron system
#beta-discussion message
TGC, avoiding spoilers: “This fix is for the not-yet available Season of Dreams content”
Also TGC, a few lines later: “Visual update to the Dreams Ultimate Gift mask”
it was perhaps an accident but I can’t not find it funny
Wait... were we initially able to receive 2 candles on each race?
Or were you referring to both of them contributing 1 candle each?
Sorry my bad I intended to say two for the two races
Oh... OK. 🙂
You think they’d at least not say anything because it’s within “not-yet available Dreams content”
stupid me needs to do Beta stuff
but I’ve felt burnout
I’m not at all fit to CR properly right now, the idea of testing the chevron system is not one I can manage right now
CR burnout hhh
Do we know yet what the next ts is going to be?
no
Darn, thank you
ok but can we just imagine the possibility of gat chibis becoming a thing
I wish to start a gat chibi revolution
Since I don’t wanna spoil myself using youtube, is the new season worth the 20 dollar preorder?
its totally worth it imo, but its up to you 100% once it hits live
in my opinion, the season is well worth the money
I’m obsessed with the new cosmetics; I feel like it would be worth the adventure pass :’>
But it’s up to you! 
I am just thankful for what I can get.
||At least I have the Rhythm Collection 👀||
$10 for yourself, $20 for you and 2 friends :)
i really like that sky allows you to gift passes to friends, that's just such a neat feature
This is one of those games where you can gift things that cost.
most games have that feature in one way or another
really?? well, maybe not the ones i play then lol.
Hi, how does beta's candles work? I saw alot of people have thousands of candles
Thousands of candles? are you sure?? we don't get any more regular candles than live players do. either someone has been saving an incredible amount of candles for months or they are hacking 
Okay thank you now I understand I thought it was beta special or something i didn't play beta so idk abt anything
i feel it might be best to report them if possible, just in case. im sure TGC will make the final decision on that
#beta-faq has a lot of info about beta. It also mentions that in app purchases are free for testing purposes, but there are no candle packs in the store. We have to play the rest of the game like normal players.
at one point there were candle packs in the beta store and everyone got really, really rich
And then they proceeded to wipe them 
!ts
The next Traveling Spirit is scheduled to arrive on December 24 at 00:00 Pacific Time (UTC -8:00)
You can read how Traveling Spirits work here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits
christmas eve
Um excuse me but what does the "relationship flair" spell do? I don't see a difference
its like the you and i pin where it wont work unless a friend has the other half, so its broken in beta
Awww ok thanks
Wait, what does the pin exactly do? Any special effects for both halves? Unlocked items or clothing?
we don't know, since it doesn't work in beta. according to that sky shop, it supposed to show a special effect when holding hands with the player that has the other pin
Ah.... I see. Since I have another live account, maybe I could try it! Thanks!
what’s the total amount of WL in the village?
also! is there a set or estimated date that SOD will be available on live? sorry, i’m just doing some math rn
January 4th iirc!
I don't play beta a lot. I probably should, but there's so much stuff I need to do in live
You can read all about the upcoming season in a blog post linked in #news
Beta channels are mainly for beta testers to be able to discuss their experiences. We don't get any special info on release dates, we just test things. 🙂
and all my friends are in live
James, that's understandable. But the FAQ does tell you a little about what to expect. Beta can be a lot of work, especially at the start of testing for a season. So it's good to consider if you have the time and energy for both apps before joining beta.
yes. It's nice being able to take a look around at stuff and view upcoming features, but it's time consuming trying to play both
It is indeed. I think many new testers are very eager to join, until they realise how much work it actually is. But don't feel bad! Now you know and can reconsider for next wave. 🙂
it's alright, I don't do full run. I just test the updates, send report and feedback
it seems almost entirely like the regular game, just with updates. I've noticed no bugs nor things that could be improved
that's alright too. hehe. it's just appreciated to send feedback. if you saw a bug then you should report, and also playing is a lot of help too. devs get data by just playing
That's not entirely true and if I dare say, you may not have played much if you didn't find any bugs or issues. There were lots of stuff going on at the start of the season, for example.
minus of course the really obvious things like crashing when lighting candles
but those are, well, really obvious, and don't require intentional testing to... test
hmm if u really feel that way, then, you know what to do next testing hehe. everyone is welcome in beta but it's purpose is to test and help tgc make sky a better place.
Ideally, we should sort of stress test the season, since we're a lot less players in beta than in Live. For example, I can see that the ending cut scene may be an issue with many players doing it as well as other quests colliding with it in the stadium.
but I'm not entirely sure how I would do that. I'm not experienced in intentionally breaking things
yes as my friend here said, every feedback is important.
Or the fact that everyone freezes in place when the gondolas are activated.
My best advice is to try and think how a newer, less experienced player would experience things. I know work arounds for some issues, but that shouldn't be necessary if everything is working properly.
Or the fact that everyone freezes in place when the gondolas are activated.
see, this is the kind of thing that I wouldn't notice or consider a bug if someone hadn't pointed it out to me. There's so many involuntary camera angle changes and places where you can't control your character in sky that it seems nothing out of the ordinary
like the camera zooming/panning at the end of valley race. it's so unstable
or you freezing when you enter the place on the right side of vault Archives
It took a little bit of detective work to realise why it was happening (thanks Samuel!), but those are the type of things you should be trying to find or review. Don't just accept them, because "they've always been there".
I have literally never heard of that before. Have you reported that? When and where exactly does it happen? Or do you mean as you approach the open space with the floating platforms, because that's intentional.
open space with the floating platforms
oh the library at the right side?
Those type of forced cut scenes are the bane of my existence. 
it's okay the first time when you're getting used to it, but every. single. time. you. go. in. there. it starts to become annoying
That's a very good thing to put in feedback. I am unsure if those scenes are hard coded and therefore not possible to skip, but for a seasoned player they tend to be more annoying than amazing after the umptenth time.
there we go, feedback time
I have a question. Why did the design of the ultimate gift from the season of dreams has changed?
no idea, but it happens
what's the ultimate gift... I'm confuse ahhaha
the one we get when we finish the seasonal constellation such as the mask of prophecy guide or the manta cape
Morning ,Theirs a live update btw if you don’t already know 🕊️🤍🕊️ I was expecting a beta one more
The coat-cape is one of the best so far, no lie
is there a beta question and help?? or do i ask here???
Just ask here!
ok :)) when devs say anything can change, does that mean items can switch from iap to free?
I don’t think that’s ever happened, but the other way around did with the Santa hat.
It could happen but yeah it's unlikely
I bet someone has worked it out before, but seems we get 5 candles per tier / chevron.
oh so i guess i am buying the pass for this pipa instrument :/
thanks for helping me make up my mind :)
During the season's testing, things often get shuffled around from AP to free to AP - though I don't remember on the top of my head any examples of that. That's more likely to happen for seasons rather than events
If you're unsure, you can always wait until the season goes live- then you can be sure of what's AP locked and what's not, and the 10 candles from pre-order won't be a big deal in the long run
not a concrete example but the winter fluffy cape used to be free during light awaits, once it was reintroduced as rhythm it became AP. i'm only bringing this up because i and a few others at the time thought it would remain free despite those being completely different games
If I want to leave a feedback I need to write that in #beta-feedback ?
When I wrote that I need to eliminate the message or it automatically eliminates?
The bot should automatically delete it and give you confirmation that it was delivered
okee
i dont have a screenshot but i saw one of the quests had parentheses next to it that said locked?
the quests usually appear as "locked" for one or two seconds when you first activate them, but they should quickly change to numbers
oh ok because i was about to say "and then when i clicked it again it wasnt locked anymore"
I see... what do we get for finishing season of dreams?
copy paste this into the discord searchbar
in: beta-screenshots-and-vids has:image ults
thank you ✨✨
is there any beta available for mac rn?
is there? i am on an intel mac running bigsur..just in case macbook air 2017
there used to be, but it was discontinued long ago
It be cool if text to speech worked in game....you could give sky kids whatever voice or accent you wanted 😂
I saw light collecting thing in Praire in live version, and it crashed my game
Its a nice idea. Its like other apps that encourage you to take breaks for mental health. For me personally and I would guess a majority of players. I don’t play Sky to get me to take breaks. A quick candle run can be very rewarding when I had a busy day, with the new system. If I would be forced to take those breaks in between it would feel very demotivating. Even controlling to be honest. edit: Playing Sky itself feels like a break to me especially with the new candle system and also have time left to learn play instruments or hang out/help others
Your idea is a good idea but weighing everything up I think theirs a line when it comes to how fast you should be able to farm , encouraging people to take breaks should not be up to the game to do - that’s what I think ,
at some point peoples time needs to pay for items ,I think that giving the first 30 minutes of playing faster forging is enough ...I myself will stop buying ap if it gets made too easy ... I’m all for a good balance between players ,time and money and I think always those who pay should be rewarded more for sure - but a balance between time and the cost of items needs to be right ...people who pay work for their money so it’s only right people who play free work for their candles .. that’s just me ..theirs a thin line between encouraging people to take breaks and encouraging laziness...(don’t mean to sound harsh,sorry in advance)🤍🕊️🤍
I did full cr today (including office, without Eden) and I got around 17.5 candles 🕯
BIG DEEP BROAD VOICE FOR little baby chibi
Eden still crash for android anyone???
You guys replied to a message from dec 18!?
Ps- the viewpoints are understandable though
It might be less grindy if they put AP lock on TS and this new system of candle forging.
Put balance on both.. I guess.. this game become grindy feeling and more socializing..
What will be the ts on thursday guys? Any guessing? 😁.
U will be new ts 
Are the orange gates in the race's end stadium related to the new season? I heard that it was something from beta 
I think that they will take away AP restrictions now
I mean they came up with them because they wanted to took away the grinding feeling, but now they have resolved the problem even better with daylight savings
The one on the right it is! It's the exit from the seasonal area. The one on the left it's closed and we don't know what it's for 
Oh thanks! I was just a bit curious, I wonder what the left gate will be then
Did another update just come out? What's in it? 🤔 It says welcome to the season of dreams
S o m a n y b u g s i n s a n c t u a r y
There was jelly spirit when i went today in sanctuary
I just saw it rn ;-;
Anyway it's been a while since i visited beta, did they change how the character holds the pipa instrument or is it my impression?
Im a noob in the beta i dont have that, also whats a pipa..?
It's a chinese instrument, it's the one from the dancing seasonal spirit
guys, only 3 stars in new map?
5
Its a Live update. This is beta channel. Check patch notes for more information what the update is about
The rock in village is pig or crab?
Is it normal when I collected the seasonal candles in prarrie I won’t get the others in forest or stuff
Does anyone know if the snowflake cape from beta is in live yet👀
28th December.
Ah okay thanks 
Yesss!! They changed it so the hands are now ‘on’ the strings instead of next to it 
I like it more this way
Thank you
Could someone post me the before and after of the seasonal mask? I didn't take a ss hehe

I think you can find some photos already in that channel. Just scroll up.
Thank u!
when in doubt just use discords search function
When I come here to check some beta stuff I often find questions about things in live and people from live asking beta players to put on outfits
is it always like that?
Yes even though it isn’t really a Q&A for outfits since we’re just testing and the designs could change 
they've already changed 
Exactly

I often meet new players who say they started the game in beta in the last few days. new invitation ??
Maybe apk , which is not allowed to discuss here
there's a small chance it's an android player too. google allows new testers to enter when someone leaves unlike testflight (ios)
So uuuhhhh can anyone tell me where the event area is please? I’m super dumb and I’m lost lol
it's not available on live yet if that's what you're asking. in beta enter valley and to the right of social space is a tunnel you can enter. that tunnel is blocked off on live and the teleport is not active
@random gull Ooohhhhhh that makes sense, I was asking for beta cause I haven’t had time to test until recently lol, thanks!!
a little weird that iOS can't since that's how i weaseled my way in mid-enchantment
wait you started beta after me dark??? 
That does quite explain it. I did own an android device and searched Sky. I noticed 2 games but went for the beta... so.... yes.
i missed the invite wave of December 2019, so i had to (painfully) wait until magically a few free slots appeared one day
I thought they would keep the ap restrictions ..it don’t make sense making farming easier and give stuff away free too .. that’s a double win win for f2p players .. what about those who pay ??many for sure will turn f2p because this would be no kind of balance ...anyways ..🤍
I missed that wave too
I wasn't on the discord yet and my friend sent me the invite link and by the time I clicked spots were full. I got in on the next android invite after that to stress test right before enchantment
Hi i read on the patch notes that they updated the visual for the ultimate gift mask... so what's the difference to the old one? #notabetatester
many comparisons in #beta-screenshots-videos , here's one #beta-screenshots-videos message
okay, i know i'm late but what's the reason all the off-season spirits are alive!!? 
They shouldn't be in the latest patch, but I suppose there could be some stragglers. Anyone in particular you've come across?
Late reply, but people should not be doing this. The beta channels are not a place for people to beg beta testers for spoilers or to do something specific for them. They can wait for the season to go live to try things on in the closet or scroll through the screenshots channel themselves
it weird when beta and live have same spirit bug but only live got update 
It's probably more of a priority to try to fix it for live since it affects more people there. They might try to release a fix on beta later or something
Farming is also made easier for players who pay for AP/items like me personally. Its for players who don’t have time for full candle runs. Its been said before: TGC data shows that a mayority of the players don’t collect FREE candles above 10. I think the non paying players will have it just as hard because they are most likely full candle runners and a full candle run takes just as much time as current system in Live. Also because TS and/or in game currency items are very high in candle prizes. Personally I dont mind the work for items and pay for items system without AP lock. But ofcourse there are also players that pay that do mind items not having AP lock and that is valid on its own too.
I think it is just fine because the beta is only for testing. If TGC fixed the bug in Live, the problem has been solved.
so you mean beta player still can get by bug? 😂
Beta is only for testing so we can have many bugs and unstable game playing.
Beta tends to be full of bugs anyway since there are always different things being tested or changed, and beta progress doesn't really matter that much so if people have stuff they aren't technically supposed to, it's not as big of a deal as it is in live
Progress can also be wiped or reverted at any time if TGC deems it necessary for testing purposes
I mean it is nice if the Beta has not got many bugs, but it is still fine to have bugs because TGC can fix the bugs for the Live.
I think the ultimate mask and cape are one of the best cosmetics yet and the deer mask and these are for sure on the same level to me ... omg the future of sky cosmetics.. the thought is beautiful
Live is TGC business but Beta is our happiness. We can still play the new game feature. I appreciate for that.
i forgot i dont have sky beta on my other apple id so i cant play beta i would like to cry please
Can we have like more of those ! thingy’s for that. Beta players seem to answer a lot of those questions. Its kind but they/we shouldnt. Like the ! noflake. We should use that more as beta players or a new ! For outfits. I have no idea if its something to implement. Just some thoughts
I can't wait for the candle farming update to be added to live! :D
is the update gonna be released when season of dreams comes out?
It’s said in #beta-faq that these channels aren’t a free for all for asking about spoilers and favors
! is called bot commands 😆
Beta makes me happy to feel part of making one of the most beautiful games as bug free for live as possible ...that’s my happiness that I get the chance (which is a honor) to even have any input whatsoever into sky🤍🕊️🤍
I am very old so bear with me on technical names 
I think TGC should act like Genshin Beta players not to upload the beta videos to any other video platforms. most of the people coming to this channel is only for beta spoilers.
It sometimes feel so stingy to turn people away, but it's also a little annoying when lots of Live players come here to ask about things that we either can't know or things that are only Live related. I don't mind doing closet raids occasionally, but as you said, they could just wait and try the items out for themselves eventually. I suppose they ask, because they want to plan what to get?
I feel the same! Its my first time in beta. And i really like it as a new hobby. Testing stuff out and contribute to a great Live version in the end for all players
Tgc is not a huge company like miyoho, they literally cannot do this
I think we as Beta players need to act less as a re-directing hub. Because we answer most questions kindly or assemble the outfits requested. They come back for more
I know that but just a suggestion. But I think we can do that if we dont upload Beta videos to youtube. LIke just a hint of the new season is just fine
There’s going to be people who do not care and upload beta content to YouTube anyway
We discussed this before, but if beta were to be completely closed we would all have to sign NDAs. I like this openness that TGC is going for.
I saw the videos for the full patch of the new season. Tutorial videos are good but after the official release on Live.
Tgc can’t control what people do outside of this server, I understand what you mean but it’s just not feasible even if the ppl here decide not to upload things
Speaking of, I Playfight still got triggered somehow in live
I cant seem to find the white circle tho, doesn't look like other players are carrying it.
I do wish I could wipe my brain afterwards so I can unsee it for live , I do try once I think most of - if not all bugs in the season are solved to stay away from cosmetics and area from the season at leased a week or so before live ..I did have a little walkthrough the area today and checked the update on mask ...I do love to see others reactions to the season also .. that gives me great satisfaction to see others emotional like I was this season ..it’s just nice to see others enjoy . 🤍🕊️🤍
Youtube content is also free advertising for TGC right? In some way. Players would want to play the game because they see upcoming seasons.
I mean Sky is a popular game btw. Youtube vids can be the Ads but I think it is too much.
Its just the outfit request we get here because of spoiler content and we are turned into Sky Models 
That means no more excitement for the coming season coz we know everything about the new season.
No one forces anyone to watch anything though .. that’s a choice
By all means, I am just sharing my thoughts.
There is a problem with people putting spoilers in the thumbnail on YouTube though, it’s true you’re not forced to watch anything but that doesn’t mean you can avoid it
Let's stop here. I am out of this topic.
If someone read our messages and know something about that, that might benefit to his or herself or maybe TGC.
Question about the new candle system and feedback. Is it helpfull to capture my candle run in detail. Like with screenshots and write about the specific sections of a candle run. Or is feedback better as a written summary. Because devs already have the data
@peak token Please don't discuss entering village in the live version. this is beta channel for beta discussion, and the village will be open when the season starts.
I don't know. It probably depends on what you want to do with the detailed data, or if you think it can contribute to your feedback in some way. Otherwise, maybe just a summary of your findings?
Ah sorry
, anws thank you for reminding 
The devs want less numbers and more of just your opinion and feelings on how the new system is
Im trying out different ways to candle run. The way I candle run in Live or what is most efficient like getting the candle cakes first or the 80/20 rule. I have a lot of time because of lockdown here
That's amazing! Great work! I am exhausted from work, so I haven't been able to test the new system much at all. On the surface, it seems nice. I have no strong opinion either way.
I hope you cope okay and stay safe during this lockdown ,it’s very nice to have sky beta to keep us busy 🤍
I miss the feeling of being exhausted from work! My job is very different (social) from pre-corona. And now we are in a 5 week lockdown and winterbreak. So i have vacation time. But with stay at home order and social distancing. I guess I just miss feeling useful. So beta testing is such a nice way to feel like im doing something useful in these times
Thank you! And the same to you. Stay safe 
I think Zero mentioned it yesterday that not clicking on the candle to forge will have a different forging rate than if we do click and collect. We tried it today, and with the 2 different method we could only get around 16 candle. Also tried the races with low chevrons and they gave one whole candle each.
I like the idea of the new system, but don’t like the execution personally. I noticed on myself that I’m way less motivated to stay playing and check out the other realms after I’m over the effective forging rate (even after a new update). I’m less willing to offer friends, who just just joined me to do a map which both of us needs, and we talk on discord more instead of playing and talking.
It’s definitely interesting to see how ppl with different playing styles have totally different opinions about the system tho.
That's very interesting to hear, since it seems TGC was aiming to get people to socialise more with this new system instead of just do candle runs. But perhaps the socialising is already happening during those runs...?
Yeah. I saw Zero’s post about it. It seems to be a bug, right? So I thought I would just try different candle runs for the feel instead of looking for exact numbers.
Idk what’s the right english word for it, but in my case and the closest friend group i usually play with, cr is more like a side task, while we talk and check out if anything has changed. A side task which is also rewarding in a way, since we get wax depending on how much we did. None of us is the chilling at homespace while spamming emotes type, so if we don’t have anything or just very little to gain from the game we can move the convo to discord and have different side tasks. If this explanation makes any sense
me and english language aren’t really friends when i try to express myself 
Yep , that was my first thought on the whole system situation , then I think about the ones who don’t have the time at all to candle run or socialize ... so I think in the long run it will be a great system as it really don’t effect anyone in a bad way (their will always be some of course) and it really does help those who really needed it ... I like the system so much because it’s not ott ...it’s nice to see candles collect faster no matter what ..if your a full candle runner it’s not gonna phase you .. 🤍
Could the devs mean something with the forge issue? It might be a stretch but for a full candle runner forging at a lower chevron is demotivating. So its better to not forge. So are the trying to cut out forging with the way its implemented now in beta?
Uhh good question. I somehow got 18 candles 2 days ago with no forging in between, but we got 16-16 with both forging and not forging method today. Plus we didn’t have double cakes 2 days ago, now we had. I was wondering if cakes and multiplayer quests could give fix wax instead of weighted, cause otherwise i don’t really see the purpose for either of them to exists.
seems constant feedback will be needed as they work to balance this new system. I never do a full cr unless I can join Pakka's group on beta so I haven't had much to say besides it being super helpful to me who can't run everything myself. been a while since I could join my friends tho
timezones are evil
I will move back to afternoon runs tho, so your waxtaxi will be back soon.
i just needed to do those few full test runs quick until i have some motivation to finish and in a quieter environment than 6-8 player with different needs, otherwise I would have forget what did i wanted to check out 
I've always been careful to forge as often as possible because of the constant reporting of how inconsistent the forging is for some people, especially with shoddy internet connections.
Lol, wax taxi!
I don't have much to contribute except that unless I am with Pakka's group as well I don't do anything even remotely near a proper cr in beta. That being said, as it was pointed out, the data and time expectation might be one thing, but the feeling and experience are what are being sought in feedback. And so far my experience is that when the cr gets long in the tooth and the chevron get low, it does phase me and my cr feels like walking through wet cement.
I guess it depends why you do a full candle run too , some do it cause they enjoy it and pay no attention to candles and just have fun with it and some do it for candles mainly ...the last few days I’ve been a lot busier than normal so the system has really helped as I have not had time to do a full run and I enjoyed the speed of collection and it was nice not to be away from sky and think💭 oh i did not collect enough ....it was nice to experience it that way .... 🤍🕊️🤍
I’ve had one chevron up till I collected my last candle a few days ago so it was not that slow anyways .. if the end number was different then I understand why anyone would say it gets long towards the end ..but I don’t get that feeling at all , I feel accomplished and feel like I was given more than half a day of farming fast and just a ikkle normal ..
Goodnight everyone ... aghhh 3 days 2 go 🤍🕊️🤍
And that’s also a totally valid point, not having the time to do full runs, but having a nice amount without the feeling of missing out. That’s why i said i like the idea of the new system. What I don’t like is the execution, the way it makes some of those who do full runs feel less motivated and bad to the point they have to trick themselves with not clicking on the candle to forge if they want avoid this.
In live i only do a few maps, so i see the good side too, it’s just not there yet for me personally.
Anyways have a good night

I haven't been able to full cr properly in beta for a while because school
But so far, I think the chevron system is pretty neat.
I usually only forge my candle all at once after a full run, so the slow progression of Chevron 1 doesn't really affect me. That being said, I do have a little concern that the new system will sprout laziness to some players. Don't get me wrong, It's great especially when you're busy. However, I'm that type of player who put Vault and Isle on "low priority" list because they lack wax and doesn't feel as rewarding. (Aka. skipping them)
My concern is with the players with habit of forging candle everytime they fill up, it may be a miniscule difference of behavior, but it could affect the feelings significantly.
I do notice the meter takes longer to process and I'm not sure if it will affect the wax count. Especially when moving to different area while the wax count is still processing.
People aren’t being lazy for not wanting to do certain things in game, most people are already not doing full candle runs to begin with
Not everyone has time to play the full game everyday
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Why are you here 👁👄👁
Go wait in #news or go back in gen chats, nothing to see here :pSquint:
oh come on
soup this is beta general discussion please keep the topic on beta content
plenty for us to discuss right now that isn't live
Uhhh i just saw the collect the light quest from beta in live version whattttt
they're still working on a fix for that it seems. the patch notes for today's update addressed it
oh ok -- at first i was like haha yay but then i realized i was in live lmao
I’m definitely one of those people that doesn’t do full crs... I don’t have time for them plus I find them really tiring... and if I do a full cr my interest in the game kind of drops ;-;
I try to CR some realms in live version but in beta I only go for seasonal candles. I also just don’t have the time for CR daily. I have other things to do then play sky
I am loving the new system tho, some bugs and changes of course need to be made but overal it’s a good first step
Guys, sorry if my question is not for this chanel, but the general just moves so quickly they didnt register me asking, If I preorder AP today, can I gift it to my friend already or must I wait until season start?
you can gift them right now
If you ever have another question and chat is going fast #questions-and-help is a good place to ask
Thank you both! I will remember that!
I can no longer figure when I'm in beta chat or live 🤦
I get confused a lot as well

i was thinking about the ap restrictions for the traveling spirits and i found another reason to not like it. In between seasons we would be basically obligated to get the preorder only to buy stuff from the ts
Literally everyday for me:
“Where are the seasonal candles?” In Live or “Why are there seasonal candles here” in Beta 
Oof I get so confused as well- Me when I want to play beta: opens live
Me when I want to play live: opens beta

totally
Its even worse since both apps are blue
when it comes to the light fragments at the end of Valley races, if you didn't collect them all what happens?
nothing unusual should happen i think
you don't need to collect none. When the timer ends it still gives you u reward. You just get a candle sooner if you collect the lights before the timer ends
as much as i like the idea of the chevron system benefiting friends who can't do full candle runs, i'm finding the uncertainty of how many more candles i can earn to be pretty inconvenient; i don't really pay attention to my candle count at the start of the day, so now i can't really get a grasp of how many more candles i can earn from any given realm in the middle of a run -- i don't feel like i'm getting enough information to decide when i might want to stop without farming all the realms, especially since there's a real number you have to farm to keep up with travelling spirits
exactly, I tried to give a feedback about I think the candle system should be more transparent. But at this early point it seems like they don't like to talk about numbers
it may not even be implemented at all, we don't know
i can understand them not wanting us to focus on the numbers and instead the qualitative feel of the system -- my response was just meant to indicate that with my particular playstyle and mindset, how i feel about the system heavily depends on how much i can measure the numbers, and thus the unknown scaling of it (especially towards the end) bothers me quite a lot
i think that after some time will pass they will probably tell us some conversion rates so that we will be able to make calculations about how many candles will be left and how to get them
it's entirely up to them whether they want to disclose that to us or not -- that's just my particular feedback to the current test conditions as the kind of player i am
speaking of which, i really should copy-paste that first post into #beta-feedback >_>
The rate right now is very buggy though. I also don't like the diminishing return being too extreme.. it feels very discouraging
i don't really see this uncertainty as a problem tho. This could be easily resolved by tracking down the candles you have at the start of a new day and how many you get after running some realms, we just have to adapt to the new system
that's still feedback worth mentioning though if candle count is important to you. you're right that TS system especially for new players is not very forgiving still and requires you to candle run a lot more than I am personally capable of. I'm LUCKY I joined before TS even started and was only missing 3 seasons. I have 100% of the base game completed (in live) and basically only get candles now to upgrade friends and catch up on TS I hadn't bought everything from the first time
Yes but every time they change, we will have to respend a lot of time for testing. It's not like a quest or map thing where you can just hang around and see what bug is gonna come up
I think I understand what you mean. Its kinda black and white at the moment. Or 10 candles easy when u dont have a lot of time or a full candle run for max candles in the same amount as Live system. (If there are no bugs) and I used to go for like 12-15 and I don’t know my way of getting that number yet in the new system
I figured we get about 5 candles per tier /chevron until you drop to zero chevron, then you get the rest. I wonder if others have also counted?
I tried doing full candle run on the new system but sadly I spaced out in the middle and forget to forge out of habit. Will have to run again once I could.
It really doesn’t make much of a difference in a cr then. In beta it is good since there are areas I can’t get into due to empty servers.
i still haven't tested the new system that much ;; i only know that when i run prairie and homespace today i got about 10 candles
I usually measure how much i've done by the realms and knowing how much those give (in old system). It's hard to plan with the new system. What i know if u do waste last (if u did ark before) on sunday it's around 1,5 candle. Races still give 1-1 candle not dependent of chevron level.
Yeah, I now do races last to work through the slower chevrons
Does anyone knows if you do races first will you get a lower end candle count? Do races drop your chevron too?
oh i was wondering about how the races work now 😮 it's good that they still give one full candle
They drop your chevrons, but not the total candle count.
At least the race is stable.. seasonal candles are also stable. 🤔🤔 I have to agree that its hard to plan now, but a part of me believes that's because we're so used to planning how to maximize our candles output with minimum run input... But if I think about it maybe we don't actually need to plan anymore and just,, gooooo
Maybe a full planning is impossible, but we still can decide when to stop doing a cr
I kind of flipped it around now. Do the realms with fewer candles first, they feel like less of a waste of time then.
There are 2 potential problems that nobody talks about yet
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Instead of the exact wax amount, the ratio of the candle meter will carry onto the next day. If I have 200 wax and it makes up only half of a candle, most of the wax will be wasted when the chevron level reset to 3.
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Every extra wax added in the future will have a decreased value compared to any new wax added in the current live candle system.
That works in term of motivation! ❀(´▽`)❀ I'll keep that in mind..
Regarding the first, I had a near empty candle meeter at the start of the day and ended up with 6 candles at the 3 chevron level. I think it kind of works it out? I will pay more attention next time. Try to start the day with a near full candle instead.
This! Because things are a work in progress where our planning or preferred candle run are not like we are used to. I start overthinking these imperfections in the current system
I was thinking about the second one too. They have to give a higher value to everything to compensate that i think. 
Since they don't like to talk about numbers.. These problem will occur doesn't matter how they change the rate or number.
Our overplanning probably defeats the intent of the game. 😅 Must remember to chill.
I don’t like having to candle run so much
I am excited for the new light system
I don’t like spending all day candle running to then buy One Thing after a few weeks
I say this while still candle running
I’m not done....
lol
Irony
those are some fun name choices tho.
Im going to make the new system evaluation my winterbreak project. So I can uhmm well plan one type of candle run a day and be more chill. Its prep/planning to chill
I didn’t mind the first part so much, but the second part makes things like the double candle bundle events harder to get through. My friend and I were noticing the same thing and thought it could lead to an overall decrease in the amount of candles you can get (specifically for events or days with higher amounts of darkness)
the idea about "every extra wax added later having a decreased value compared to the old system" may be intentional though, as a kind of softcapping on how many candles we can earn per day: i'm not sure that's necessarily an issue if it keeps the TS inflation rates at bay (or to look at the other way: the more extra candles we can earn per day, the higher the TS prices will likely need to get scaled to maintain the same relative challenge)
they don't want us worrying about numbers but we are even more stressed than before 
You’re probably right, I can see a lot of people decreasing their play time because of it though (I personally want all the wax I can get, but I could see this having an impact).
But if wax gets decreased value with every new realm the result will be the same since you have to run more to get the needed amount even if ts prices wont change at all. So the intention to reduce the cr stress fails. 
that would only hold true if extra wax added reduced the relative value of current wax which exists; i'm thinking more in terms of if they suddenly added more candle cakes right now after we've done a full candle run, we continue to earn the new additional wax at the 0 chevron level
Mmmmh they could resolve the problem of the "cr stress" for the traveling spirits with the ap restrictions, but not everyone would be happy about that...
I still think cakes should have a fix value which is not chevron dependent 
I think the ts and daily light changes are part of a larger overhaul of the game economy and are meant to complement each other 
Exactly. Increases incentive to candle run partially, decreases incentive to do full candle runs. But if they have a way to rebalance it every day, I’m all for it.
Majority of the players collect less or about 10 free candles a day. As I see it TGC wants to keep that number to get easy and free up time to just hang out
I still hope that they won't introduce the new ts system tho
It’ll hurt if they introduce the new candle system and NOT the new TS system. Personally think they balance each other out.
There are a lot of things in beta that existed for a long time but didn't go live. So idk
eg. invisible cape, portrait mode
But now that I recall about it, isn't the next season (of dream) the last map they'll add to game (for every season)? 🤔 Then the current max amount of candle we can have by full running in beta would be the max number we can have in runs. (Given: double treasure candles + complete new map. Excludes: eden white candle, seasonal bonuses)
(I'm a little late! Still on the topic of max amount of candles we could earn.. sorry if its confusing)
where'd you hear that this is the last season that'll get its own new area?
Looking at my current situation i wouldn't mind and it would really be a big release, but... When i started playing and had no pass whatsoever the fact that i could have cool items if i work for them without any other requirement really made me like the game more and more. So from that side i don't like the ts system 
why would tgc stop seasonal expansions based on candle counts?
Its not confirmed, actually.. but there has been friends informing me that it would be that way.. (around the time where there are rumours of sky stopping its service?)
I am curious, never heard of it. I could be wrong, but there are seasonal maps in all realms now. So maybe they mistaken based on this fact?
those sound like baseless rumors
an extra cake in a seasonal area won't break the economy
I’d like if they showed the full cost for everyone and then let the new TS format be in place for anyone who currently has an adventure pass. Why not have both?
I haven't seen any official statement about dreams being the last expansion. 
I am just waiting for when the ultimate gifts come back. (If ever)
I thought so too! :SkyLOL: Since there are also maps without extra realm (forest, vault).. so those rumours could be really groundless.
Still, to be honest, I typed these based on the "capping the candles number based on chevron system" discussion. Since I wanted to try counting the math simply for comparison... 🤔 Or tbh I was overthinking and I could just skip the expansion on valley if I want to count them now.
forest has the underground cavern, vault has archives 
also the translating feature
The forest underground and vault achieves are "kinda" seasonal, but not as themed as season of enchantment and beyond. They don't have a title card upon entering the map
there's plenty extra space for new seasonal areas beyond the present ones!
yeah those are just expansions that happened to be related to a season
If they ever add a new area in forest, I hope it’s in that one temple in the forest ravine
during the anniversary event they released tons of info on a certain realm every day. tgc stated that “they had unrealized ideas for both valley and wasteland”. maybe we’ll see another expansion to wasteland too - who knows
I’m just excited for any new area tbh 
I can die peacefully if they bring back Aviary
Hopefully phones can take more expansion..
but we'll be fine I pray
the idea about there being at least two years worth of additional content (see the pins in #lore-discussion-spoilers) on top of the current goal of trying not trying to pressure players into scrambling for every last piece of wax is exactly why i thought that softcapping the candles we could collect might be intentional: that basically discourages us from collecting every last piece of wax they might add with new areas and instead to focus our core runs on areas that we enjoy (as opposed to full candle run times getting longer and longer when we try and add every new wax spot into our run)
All tgc needs to do is make a gap in the clouds or a door in the existing maps and then a complete new area 
Hi
softcapping is a really good idea. As long as they bring the cap back to a normal level.. right now it's a lot less than Live and it doesn't match what they say about full CR consistency between new and old systems
I would like the big bird in valley to not be dead asleep
they have no intentions of bringing back aviary as it used to be in the pre-launch beta. I do remember reading that they “want to bring back what aviary represents in those memories” 
personally I think a lot of my fondness for the old areas and features we know existed in a previous iteration of the game is me seeing something different and going “oooh shiny” 
one other solution i'm willing to accept instead of adjusting the chevron wax rates upwards is if they adjust the TS costs downwards relative to how much the last few have cost: that also sort of reinforces the value of heart gifts as opposed to letting them gradually "depreciate" over time due to more being earnable per day from candle increases
I finished a full cr today including new seasonal area, office and trials and excluding the 8 player door and i got 18.25 candles(a little less then current live even without the new seasonal area). The thing is i did the races at the very last(after all chevrons removed) and still got 2 extra candles but when i did cr by doing race before, i got extra candles but my chevron fell below then and so at the end i ended with 16 candles 
exactly! This is very likely to be a bug and please report it
18.28 is how much you should be earning according to the chart circulating on this server if you didn't farm the prophecy trials
edit: wait, i might've responded a bit too quickly: you've ignored the 8-player door, but there's also a double candle cake event going on...now i'm not sure if the numbers entirely add up
Well i did the trials too right at the beginning
I believe he went to the village. With the double treasure candle it should be 20.xx in the old system.
And it just doesn't feel right when a player is forced to do races at the end of a CR.
yeah never mind me, i think i jumped the gun 
Just saw the new ts, that theory people had about the teasers for new stuff coming to the game predicting the next ts was true 
I did races at the end ad basically everything (except trials and eden) before 8 player, dreams, isle too and got 16
2 days ago i got 18 when waste was my last.
FYI right now daily max of live version is >24.5 Including daily quest and ||sneaking into new area||. Everything except Eden.
Yes in live we might hit 19 daily candles
So the thing is the races affect the chevrons even though giving full candles but this results in a lower output in the last parts of cr...maybe the reason i got 16 last time
I think the major point of candle runs now is going to shift to "when does the reward outweigh the effort"
previously, that principle only applied to things with very few candles or that took a lot of time, like orbit and the trials
maybe races should give a set number of wax instead of a candle
When Season of Dreams goes live, (no more daily quest and double cake) The number would be 19.79
For everything except Eden. Please don't ask, absolutely EVERYTHING except Eden
And beta is 16-18 (also buggy)
i already kinda asked this before but what do you think is gonna happen to the wax from the quest giver during off season if we collected them at 0 chevron? since the candle forge rate is very low
trials are not worth the measly wax they give, so they're almost surely still going to be excluded from runs. How much do they give, so we can exclude them from the count?
it's 0.25 candle. Not bad when you have some extra time to hang out with friends in trials
I suppose it might be worth getting if you're doing the trials anyway
it's very hard to tell.. But I think they should have fixed bugs about the new system before season of dreams ends
There's no answer because it's very hypothetical and can be misleading if I have to guess a result
i understand haha
i just have a habit of collecting everything at the end since it looks nice so i'll probably feel the disappointment if 4 candles worth of wax doesny forge anything at 0 chevron lmao :SkyLOL:
they are gonna change the rate
Even though this system might go through a lot of changes before it hits live, i am just a bit curious whether tgc will tune the candle system after every season comes to the game as coz now we can reach below the last chevron and from there it takes a long time to fill and so every new seasonal area wax wont add much to the total nos. and so the max candle cap might remain in a certain no. For a long time, thats what i am assuming.
Just a feeling in Beta at the moment (totally unrelated to candle system tho) I feel really hot everytime going into Sanctuary in yeti suit and fluffy capes 
The situation that you worried about is only gonna happen after the new season ends. (3 months?)
if i delete beta can i download beta freely and play next season after season of dreams?
how much does the snowflake cape cost?
thank u haha, also thats so disappointing for players with not as much money
New season comes with new invite waves. There will be an access wipe between seasons
u sure?
This is answered in the #beta-faq
I thought what TGc did this time was soo smart... they know that if the new season hits live, the number of active beta players to test decreases.. so they ended up rolling out the new invites earlier, the new season in live comes out later, and all quests were available to test
Your messages belong in #questions-and-help #general-sky-discussion or #news
How am I still able to access Sky beta if I am not in this invite wave? (I am not complaining, I love the beta version. Please don't kick me out.)
android beta works differently. when someone leaves the android beta program, a slot opens up and other people are able to join. this is likely what happened for uou
Okay, thank you!
Does anyone here in Beta know how to get past the wind wall to go to the new village? having a bit of trouble
If you mean in Live, no. It is blocked for a reason. The new season has not started in Live.
If I get a new season cape in beta,will it be on me in main app?
I saw dude who was in xmas cape before update was released,he said he was betaplayer
That person lied to you, beta and live are completely separate and you can’t transfer over progress between them
Ugh
Some people had the snowflake cape in live RIGHT NOW
And i can't report them because they won't lit the candle
They know they gonna get reported, so they just sit there
Pls change this TGC 😡
When we consider seasonal maps tho, aren’t isle (prophecy), wasteland (ark), valley(village), daylight (sanctuary) the only ones to have fully encompassed seasonal maps so far? That means we may still get something for vault, forest and Eden in the future
how do you glitch to the new area? ive gotten through the gate/boulder but theres just strong wind that stops you and there isnt a trigger for launching you to the new place, like in the live build. but theres people in it already
youre not allowed to go in :|
they got in through illegitimate means
i thought it was already in the game and some bugs allow you into it(without hacking)
no
anyone in live who got in to village got through illegitimately, please report them
okie ill try if i know anyone that does(?)
i would like to say that I know someone who got into the village through a bug, he just logged on and was there. So there are some bugs that lead people to get in by accident
However, just to be safe, make sure you report those people nonetheless ! If they aren’t hacking, nothing will come of it 
imagine wanting to be spoiler free then all of a sudden ur just spawned there
hihi, anyone rmbr from when TGC announced about how ts in beta will require a pass thing? does anyone know if it’s going to be applied to tmr’s ts? or is it still staying in beta?
the changes to TSes only apply to beta, TS in live as of now will remain as normal
okay tyty 
I think a few people got in using hacking/things not allowed in live currently to reach the area, then more people teleported to them, and more people from there, and so on. I teleported to my friend in live to say hello, and she among many others were flying around the new area. Brick also brought up and interesting bug to think about 
my name is brick, not holly, notice the word in brackets 
Oh my goodness I’m so sorry, I will correct that 
merry christmas beta gang!
Days of feast has already ended in beta
welp that's ok
lol
You need to complete the vault constellation and after you get the elder gift you’ll be able to get the cape for a whopping 999 hearts

To chinese people im a fawn apparently..?
when i searched up fawn i got 1 image of a dog 🗿
I- what-
dog = fawn now
Ohh google said it was a 1. A young deer in its first year (( prob bec i wore a deer antler )) 2.a light yellowish brown colour (( which is my cape colour )) ..
Interesting 👁👄👁
i’d send an image but i dont know where to send it 
I just noticed something.
My game starts to lag when I wear seasonal cosmetics. For example I was practicing the sheets,and my screen would lag when wearing seasonal cosmetics,but normal when I wore normal ones :(
That would be an interesting bug to report 👀
seasonal cosmetics: it kills your device just like how HatinTime kills your CPU
I’ve also noticed lag when I wear seasonal cosmetics actually, it’s better when I’m wearing base game or moth ones

My screen would sometimes freeze randomly. As in can't look around and automatically fixed to 1 point for 5-10 sec, so when I fly, I'll go bonk. Does anyone else experience this?
me too! It started only yesterday. I had it in Sanctuary Islands
I had it in almost all map actually. Same goes in live too 
New bugs mean new things to report in the bug report channels! 
I had that in live too at home space it didn’t last long but yes I had it too
Bug report time! 
About the ultimate mask, i think the old design is better 🤔
Thank you StarDream
does anybody knows how many cake are in the village?
2, one in the main area and another in the yeti's house
thank you so much
I don’t believe it to be honest in my opinion ,I think they are just trying to make themself feel better for being their ..
I don’t think it’s your place to judge someone you barely know. He’s my friend, i’ve known him for months, and I believe him because that’s just the kind of guy he is
huh
if only i could enter the sky world i wanna go to yeti slope it's so pretty
beta players while seeing everyone saying they want owl customs in normal general ;
......its all chill keep it a secret

So I just tried to do a full cr to see if it’s any faster than in live and it’s not. I was under the impression that it would take 30-40 minutes to do a full candle run instead of 2 hours and now I’m a little disappointed but I’ll try to give feedback 😊
Same here... Been happening a lot to me on both live and beta
The whole point of the system is that you get more candles at the start and less at the end. So you still get the same amount of candles but players with busy schedules dont have to waste all day farming
Ah okay! I suppose I just misinterpreted everything 😊 I think I would still spend all day farming with the new system tho haha
Xmas update didn’t bring a blue cape to us,was it just a bait?😢
!noflake TGC wouldn’t bait us, they’re an amazing company 
The Snowflake Cape will be available starting on December 28th at 00:00 PST (UTC-8), and will be available in the in-app shop until 23:59 PST (UTC-8) on January 3rd.
The blue cape as well as the Xmas event is already over.
Yeah same lol, There are some vids about it if you want to look it up, imo its a great change!
Okay thank you so much!!

guys i have a question how ts works in beta ?
It's already been 5 months, sky is already nostalgia, as if a part of it is gone
I'm going to bed, it's 3am I have a candlerun with friends at 12pm, they even removed the home intro music ;-; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjOw3H9Id54&list=PLLPSDuuidhkwphniMA29UhQx4vnVN_gix&index=1
Every time when I hear this a part of me goes oof ^^
Hi! Why did I just saw two people having bear hug in live version is that a bug that u are able to get the spirit?
bear hug Lv1 is accessible to everyone without needing to do the spirit provided you've unlocked the friendship tree high enough -- it's the Lv2 bear hug that requires completing the spirit to unlock (similar to the way that piggyback, hair tousle and play fight behave as well)
Ohh thank u ^^
Please use #report-a-live-bug #live-feedback #general-sky-discussion #news or #questions-and-help for anything related about Sky Live
@hollow compass bruh,but I didn’t see where I could get it and also didn’t see anyone who wears it
!noflake if you mean Live then the bot will respond, in beta the event is over
The Snowflake Cape will be available starting on December 28th at 00:00 PST (UTC-8), and will be available in the in-app shop until 23:59 PST (UTC-8) on January 3rd.
Yay
Is there a way to report people whom I haven’t met yet in sky but they publicly announced (in Instagram) that they illegally went in the village of dreams?
Yep I know some who do the same too.
and I don't like how proud they are and when you call them out, they'd make you feel bad
Same, kinda hope there’s a way though
I'm absolutely tired of these people
I was taken to prophecy caves last time and this time they are in the village in live. I reported them since they are my friend. 😑 No I'm not even sparing friends.
you could probably report their Instagram username to thathelpbot? I'm not sure how much can be done without their sky ID though.
That's the problem. They could be using another account to post the stuff. Or maybe they have a dedicated id for the hacking adventures
oh Instagram isn't connected to your sky ID so it being an alternate insta account doesn't really make a difference 
at most they could get their content removed if TGC chooses to do so but even then its kind of a waste of resources, considering the amounts of people who post about it
I reported their photos about it on Instagram under false information, I don’t know if Instagram will take it down ._.
Does anyone realise all the Sky events nowadays is based on selling you cosmetics instead of letting you having more interactions? As much as we spend on IAPs and candle running for the TS, we truly need an event that lets us take a break from candle running if TGC has been saying they take socialising as seriously as the cosmetics and seasons. Im losing the fun of entering Sky when i hv spend hours in cr in this month despite its Christmas month.
It's just my opinion, but i really wanted to say i feel stressed this Christmas instead of fun as a collector this month. I still manage to farm enough for everything but the progress is not as merry as the coming festive as most of my free times have been spent on candle running to meet the amount of items and their costs.
The new table let us socializing what do you mean

Dont u spend hours to candle run for 150 candles before you GET THE CHANCE to get the table? Wdym
Excuse me but isn't TS suppose to come on beta first?
Tell me if I'm missing something,,
Yea true
Yes, sky is becoming less and less interesting
!tsbetalive ah idk what the command is hahahaha 
!tsbeta
Traveling spirits in beta have different scheduling than in live, and have no bearing on future traveling spirits.
Check #news for announcements and save up your candles!
whoever feels stress of sky I highly recommend this, take a break soldiers.
Christmas time is a time where special items are a thing. Everywhere. You don’t have to buy anything or get anything from in game currency. TS is on a fixed schedule. Same as event items, you are not required to get anything from TS. It will even come back eventually to get items from TS another time. The thing is players get FOMO and want everything. But do you really need everything. Pricing is also a system to prefend the cheap/get everything but its junk or not what you need like in other games. TGC invests in items that are worth it. Besides that you can’t fault a game company to make money in this time of year or having an option between free and IAP because thats how it works. The new candle system wil make it easier to candle run. But as a player you still have to make choices. You don’t get everything you want or wish in real life too. Not meant to be harsh, i can understand the candle runs are much work and christmas time is overwhelming. But its not the game’s fault
About the christmas table. If you are in Sky with friends. Build friendships to chat and light each other’s capes. You don’t need the table. So you can hang out and socialize and don’t worry about candle running to get 150 candles
What im trying to say is , seasons and TSs have been needing alot of cr. Then when event comes, its supposed to feel fun , either to provide the players with good bargains or time-limited fun mechanics. Instead, besides ice rink, the only event features are the items that are super expensive to many. Imagine ure a moth and the only thing u get out of the Christmas event is an ice rink for them to skate. When was the last time you felt an event is made for you, instead of focusing merely on selling you items?
Office is open and beautiful, well in live.
If you feel like you don't feel like candle running then.... don't. Atleast that is how I do haha.
It is not so easy to just "take a break" knowing that you will miss some things in this break time
I started playing last winter. I didnt get everything. Now im what is called a veteran. I have a lot of candles left after i bought all the in game currency items. My second TS was the one with the umbrella. I didnt have enough candles to get it. A few weeks ago I did. In this time you get a lot of extra wax and as a moth you are very excited usually so you play more and get more candles. As a moth you even get a candle for every spirit you get. Every event is made to have something for everyone in Sky as I see it. And it would be awesome for someone to be happy with just a free icerink and have fun skating around with friends. Because that’s what life is about. Edit: Office is also christmasy and accessible for everyone not just the icerink
A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!
As much as I love cosmetics, I wish there's events that focus on something else. Every holiday it's the same, office is open, there's some decorations, and new cosmetics (usually IAP) 
halloween was fun because of the krills, but yeah, a lot of the events feel the same to me. i agree a little switchup would be really interesting next event
There is always a choice between in game currency and IAP. Sky realms are designed to have a unique world feel that is not like real life. So i think that is why realms are never decorated
And as big events we have seasons that are always evolving in realms
new users get half a candle for each new spirit the last time I checked
It felt like a candle in my beta run, but half a candle sounds good too
Yes , easier said than done. When an event is 80% about the items. And old players basically are trying to find new things to do in Sky coz the realms are obviously tedious if uve been playing for a year.
So basically, future events should not only revolve with special items and decorated office, but with every new event, there should be something new to do rather than just cr. Like new quests/interactions ?
Yes, its the mechanics for grindinh wax that makes candle running a boring routine. Wish we can get wax through interactions or social events that we can grow bonds with friends while getting our candles for items
Sounds like a season that is coming in a few days
New puzzles which involve several players would be fun. If they truly wants to highlight on the friendship aspect. Because rn it's mostly just CR and cosmetics.
seasons and events are way different things
Eden already pointed out what I said, and I'm all in for new mechanics 
Evangeline, we r giving constructive criticism here towards TGC as a player no matter vet or moth. Stop trying to deny everything we say here. Its unpleasant :(
I think (I Hope too xd) they are working on that.
Whats wrong with us trying to discuss before posting as feedback?
Stop trying to shut this discussion.
we can discuss it here too, can't we?
events revolve around a holiday (or something related to holidays) like christmas, halloween, valentine’s day, etc. festive quests would be nice and seasonal quests are a lot different than what they’re suggesting
I am giving you constructive critism too. If you have an opinion don’t dismiss someone who thinks differently. We are both expressing our thoughts about the game. We are both valid in doing so
Anyway, I met great friends during Fire Trial. We worked together finnishing it so we truly bond. Something like that with obviously smaller scale would be fun.
Buff moth doesn't need a cape to be buff 
skybot never misses
If there were to be little side quests to do, I'd imagine it'd be similar to those med quests scrapped back in older beta builds 
Yes, seasons are goal-oriented, as well as default constellations. Both needs cr to progress. Events should b a break for players.
Im not shutting u down. Its a reminder to also put it in feedback because its important to let TGC know.
When was the last time we ever feel that an event is make for our enjoyment, instead of "oh here's another event with items for you to buy. And visit our office for little deco and very minor interactions you can have if you want some fun" ?
Not all events tho, some events need a dynamic if it wouldn't be too boring
But yeah it would be great if we had time to just relax and in that relax time we didn't have to worry about missing something lol
Right now, the events, the daily quests, even the season is really monotonous. Yes, in the beginning of season everything is exciting. but by 2 weeks, it's just completing seasonal quest/seasonal CR.
Your feelings about the game, shared by others. And valid. But that doesnt mean everyone shares the same feelings. Also valid to be content with the game as it is
yea, but the point is event should not focus on cr-needed contents . We have had enough of those during dailies and seasons.

