#beta-discussion
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yes. I actually play beta when there's new update. test it. then report and send feedback. cause I don't really have the time to do a full run
i wonder how this would work on switch though. since nintendo doesn't do beta
you have to start out as a moth to actually be encouraged to play through the game as anyone else would in live. that's also why we don't have candle packs in the shop.
crashes are happening to everyone, especially androids. the dev team is on their weekend right now, so please be patient as they work on the next build
tgc has their own dev build for switch. there won't be a public switch beta
yes, the devs are humans too
i wonder how this would work on switch though. since nintendo doesn't do beta
@spark lance I imagine it might be a closed beta? Like people on their team possibly...? Now that you mention it that’s a good question
will we be able to link our progress with switch? or start out as a moth all over again....
presumably, yes, since there will be cross play between mobile and switch. we'll have to wait and see how that works though
I'm actually planning on buying a switch just for Sky, but it'll be stupid if I can't upload my progress since Enchantment and start out as a brand new moth all over again 
We don't know anything about how the Switch version will work. I think it would depend on if Nintendo allows logins to other platforms like GooglePlay/FB etc.
I think I would actually like to start fresh. It was ages ago since I was a moth.
I wonder if they'll had separate channels to report switch bugs...
So as this was my first time being a beta tester, do the invites get sent out right after the access is closed? >.> so sorry if this was already answered I couldn’t get a clear answer in beta faq
@onyx summit I'm pretty sure Ktjn does all the invites and its unlikely there will be one right after the access wipe. Just try to have discord going in the background and you should have plenty of chances to join in over the period, no stress.
kjtn 
yes, ktjn has to go in and manually remove all 16k testers. it takes her hours.
that's why everyone was literally saying to read the #beta-faq . you can see that ktjin was so tired last beta invite waves
if there's about 16k tester why do I barely see anybody while playing?
Why join if you're not gonna actively participate in the testing process
Invites do not go out the minute access is wiped. The process usually takes at least a week. You can check the dates in the #beta-signup-info channel to get a feeling for the timing.
most testers move back to live after the season starts. i believe last time only 50 testers were active before access wipes. this time around it seems like there are about 100? but yes, it's lonely in beta
Hey uh you can’t get the deer mask in beta right?
Hey guys! I came in after quite a while of inactivity, I see these random names popping on people around and could anyone get me going on any further changes after 2 days before the love launch of prophecy?
i have seen your future, @analog pumice, and... well, i won't spoil the surprise 
yes. you can't get them
Okay thank you just making sure I reported it right 
Oh, Creem, our sweet summer child...
Because people think beta is all shiny and sparkly, but it's not, so they get bored.
I see not many updates or known issues since then. So I assume everything is quite the same?
test out isle after updating the game 
It's updated yesterday, well lemme hop on what shall I expect 
@analog pumice :"after 2 days before the love launch of prophecy"
me: cries in confusion in jellyfish call
invisible bug in isle, lots of crashes when honking for androids, 2 isle spirits have new cutscenes, spirits now give daily wax, DO NOT buy the new capes on the cape spirits, you may softlock your game
aka: beta being beta
what's a softlock?
Why does autocorrect in gboard change live to love tho 
It means you won't be able to play until the bug is fixed
Who else lonely in beta like me. Rise your hand! 
There's not always huge changes with a new patch update. Sometimes it's just small details or even things we can't see in the game, but may notice when playing. But it is good if you can play a little while in each new update, to check for stability especially.
"softlock" is a generic term for where a game technically hasn't crashed, but you're put in a situation where you can't play or proceed with it (e.g. imagine being stuck in a permanent falling animation, unable to move, emote, or open your menu)
Alright, thanks for the info!
I think it's great to see people being very ambitious and studious in finding bugs, but don't feel intimidated by that. Regular gameplay also tells TGC a lot about the game's health.
often by playing the game normally, you'll find bugs. don't worry about trying to seek them out, sometimes the bugs come to you 
true, sometimes life gets in the way and you can't play for hours every single day
yes. not everybody has the time. sending feedback is a great help too
I'm gonna hop on and do exactly what y'all told me not to 💀
Please don't spend hours playing.
you'll also find bugs if you stick with certain players who're known bug magnets 
tbh I still haven’t finished writing bug reports from 2 days ago
and people consider me an active and ambitious tester. trust me it’s ok to not be instant and ready all the time
Kai, those bugs might not be valid anymore, if they happened before the update.
Honk honk gimme cape spirit here we go
Bai peeps
i forget to report bugs...a lot 
Same 
no they’re definitely all since the update. I may also have time mixed up because I have been sleeping in like 2 hour increments 
Our regular gameplay: half afk group , leader goes afk too and someone takes over 
Sometimes it's hard to reproduce a bug, so that you can record it.
it's great if you're active, but definitely don't burn yourself out on beta; if you've really got no time due to IRL stuff or whatnot, maybe try just downloading each new app update and seeing if your device can boot it up
I'm gonna hop on and do exactly what y'all told me not to 💀
@analog pumice I suggest you dont, dark actually got locked out of beta since they wore one of the capes and it stays equipped upon launch
Oki that's
I don't even have candles for cape tho 
the candles are just a small stepping stone with the bugged capes, it's the heart count that really murders you 
for science!
you can try to preview the new capes in the closet, but i guarantee you that you will crash
Dark u made a whole new moth account because of that little science experiment 
the cape are too awesome for our phones to comprehend 
I need to come unlock everything with you tomorrow when candles convert
can’t not have piggy with you
"tomorrow" technically arrives in an hour 
lol i just friended you dark and now you restarted 
Same, and I accidentally clicked on dark's star yesterday 
Dark and Darker
i'm impatient! i need to do more science that'll definitely lock me out again
science is fun! but seriously I need piggy with u <_<
imagine if dark stars are true and you'll turn into a dark sky kid
Kai, why aren't you sneeping 
I need to make friends I got only 4 in beta tho. Nice.
I would like to get spoilered, i heard they changed some spirits memories in beta, is that true? 
that come here spirit gave me goosebumps while relieving
i think lore folks will like the new update 
Can't wait for the lore channel to dissect the new cutscenes 
that miner from the decline spirit looks like no face from ghibli's spirited away.
@quaint canyon #beta-screenshots-videos message
it looks like the spirits summoned us, and they were waiting for us to fall from the sky to help them rescue the children in Eden
in turn, they taught us emotes so we can all find and befriend each other and be stronger as we face the storm hand in hand with our friends
i'm really curious as to why he does'nt want the darkness plant to be mined. or was it something diff back then and then something happened and turned it into something we called a darkness plant
@quiet moon
I want to make more friends in beta :’D none of my friends are active anymore and if a quest requires a friend I’ll just friend the first person I see
Sameee no one is still active right now on my constellation anyone want to friend me? ;’D
also that's voyage with stargazer in the memory, but i think they were probably just having a night walk before the star fell
I’m gonna go watch the new cutscenes now though >.>
i can't wait to relive it with muh friends once it rolls to live. The new memories are so intricate and personal. It gives me goosbumps
don't honk! you might crash yourself or others!
ez just friend a popular player, all the friends will flood in
Yes! Please don't honk
maybe the final cutscene will tell us something. final cutscene of season of prophecy
Dark are you popular?
in live only, owl hair brings in many friends
Omg wanna be my friend in liveee XD hahaha I’ll just stare at the owl hair and live vicariously
hey how does owl hair look with anubis though?
can we see plsss
my constellation in beta is so full, but 90% of them are always inactive 
Aeras I think we’re friends :O
omg and with the enchantment tassles 😍
that pointing spirit, are they creating candles? and they're transporting it via boats to every realm?
are we? i don't have you named yet then
yes, his name was changed from pointing pilgrim to pointing candlemaker
okay time for work. see you all beautiful creatures again soon 
Bye, good luck ^^
What else was added other than changing cutscenes?
!whatsnewinbeta
bugs.
Improvements.
bugs, lots of crashing
Didn't they change some spirits trees too? Or is it a bug?
Null and placeholder items 
there are new wing buffs, with new items after them, but... crash
do the new wingbuffs work as intended?
yes, they did, but we have no idea what these are for. the items don't exist
so only the null capes cause crashing?
I’m excited, it’s been so long since new stuff was added in the base game I believe
it's getting late for me, so i'm going to bed. have fun crashing testing everyone! 
Can someone tell me what's happening and why my beta has nothing happening? How do I trigger this new stuff I am seeing everywhere?
Out of the items yeah only the placeholder capes do, the other null items have no in game placeholders I believe
did you update...? what build are you on currently? 157007?
I just updated but nothing is happening
What if since it’s new capes for all the colors, it’s gonna be variations of the Pre-existing capes that look like the closed beta! :0 just a theory, but now I’m even more excited
also that's voyage with stargazer in the memory, but i think they were probably just having a night walk before the star fell
@kindred fossil first recorded date of out ancestor. Haha jk
@inland hornet did you read the patch notes? You can also see a lot of what’s new in #beta-screenshots-videos
@fathom river The Prophecy ending is already there. You can see it after finishing all the trials.
Oh maybe thats it i need to finish trials
Imagine you're going on a date then you see a child fell from the sky. Boom instant parents
With the new spirit cutscene, if the skid is the birth of the Prince of Sky, that means Voyager and Stargazer are pretty old ancestors.
O.O
stargazer? 
Spoiler, flos
its okay just tell me
I wonder why that one landed at Isle and not home though 
Yo. That’s was crazy seeing child. I thought sky kid.
The Ushering Spirit name changed. As well as Pointing spirit.
Is Stargazer and Candlemaker
new spirit memories: #beta-screenshots-videos message
WAIT
THEY ADDING NEW SPIRIT?????

No
They changed the cutscenes of two isle spirits and also changed one of the names
@vital sentinel Nope, the memories changed for Ushering and Pointing Spirit. They were changed entirely
And its FULL of lore potential
Lmao, the new cutscenes are even BETTER than that!
aw-
and here i am getting so excited we will get more spirits lmao
but hey if that means we will get more lores

More for lore children!!
still, this is exciting, more lore
@onyx summit I don’t think anyone knows what cosmetics were used or how they looked in closed beta.
30 more minutes and we will be rich
and the prince who fell from the sky must undergo the trial to have the power to venture into every realm and finally going back into the sky where he came from
my locked out account will be 13 candles rich!
Makes me wonder if we will ever appear in a spirit memory far in the future
Like in the sky timeline, not the game timeline since I doubt it will progress that far.
There was a screenshot of light awaits in #beta-screenshots-videos a bit ago I think
@onyx summit I don’t think anyone knows what cosmetics were used or how they looked in closed beta.
@hollow compass when I say the closed beta, I mean before the global launch, and the capes that have the designs on them rather than just being one color for the whole thing. I’ve seen a whole play through of the light awaits before lol, so we definitely know what it looked like
@fervent patrol STAR OF BETHLEHEM STAR OF BETHLEHEM AHSJSGSISHS
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618891214527266846/777255805832658944/image0.jpg
is that ehem?
The Kingdom of Sky prospered for a long time, and that's probably when the Skid became Prince then King. We also know a lot of time passed after the fall. Meaning the Stargazer and Voyager spirits are actually now the only spirits to have their place in the timeline properly confirmed, near the very beginnning of the entire timeline of Sky, which was the skid's birth-
O.O
I could send a link of the play through I watched, it’s pretty long though 
I wonder if it means anything that the crash star is off on rotation? 
off on rotation? what does that mean?
voyager is the come here spririt right?
I don't think it means much-
butter did you see the star symbol-
im so excited rn aaaaaa
oh stargazer. the one who's on a date then saw a shooting star then found a child
The light symbol has 4 large prongs and 4 small prongs. The large prongs are the x and y axis usually, for the fallen star its the small prongs that take the x and y axis.
I could send a link of the play through I watched, it’s pretty long though
blep's been here for a long time, surely she experienced those capes by then
If I sent the link for the play through of the light awaits, should I send it in here? Or in screenshots? Or just dm it to those who want it lol
Come to think of it... We never see our skid being born, like we do in rebirth and the spirit memory. It's almost like.... we were already born, but woken up recently-

@onyx summit Ah, that wasn’t a closed beta. Anyone could apply to join. The cape designs from back then were too taxing on the game engine and had to be removed for global release. But yes, very pretty.
Also, intro narrator says "Wake up child"
Like, how long was our skid, well, sleeping..?
maybe we were originally stars. then megabird decided to give us life
I can post a screenshot of the capes, if you like?
Can skykids even age to become the price? Like I know skykids haven't really been alive long for even players since the first day but like we can go from chibi to old man in a second. Feels kinda immortal to me.
Ah darn, I got really excited
but thanks for the Info!!
Originally, those old capes worked a bit like the scarf/coat in Journey with the pattern changing with your progress.
That’s so cool oh my gosh
is that the pointing pilgrims family? and his daughter is the stargazer?
I dont think so
okay okay okay
so i just saw the extension for spirits tree
if they actually expand the spirit tree... what about those who already completed the whole constellation and claimed elder item?
this mean one thing : more elder items

I wish I found out about this game before it came to the App Store
even though I’ve had the game since release i would have loved to experience the beta
MORE ELDER ITEMS GUYS
MORE. ELDER. ITEMS
AAAAAAA
Kiaze, it was at times traumatic.
😂
what if we got more lores next season, I'm gonna cry
The mom seems to take her daughter to the candlemaker to learn about... well, candles. They seems pretty important to the Ancestors' culture, which is a headcanon confirmed for me
nothing's confirmed, but ktjn has mentioned there are plans for it
BRO I WILL BE SO SO SO HAPPY IF WE GET MORE LORES

Watch it all be a mistake and our hopes crushed. 
More elder items are not confirmed buuuut are on the table for the future. We don't know if that future is next update though or still a while off yet.
Imagine if we got two lore heavy seasons in a row 
and it's winter too. perfect for a dark themed and emotional roller coaster
im not ready my hearts are still 5 aaa-
Does TS gives wax?
I think we will, when more Seasons come. The fact that the Spirit memories changed to give more lore and also make the Prophecy murals more understandable is a sign it could happen to other spirit memories too. I could see it happen in future Seasons
beware the ||mods||
i want to relax for this winter season... my head hurts from all of this big brain thinking this season 
I want Christmas 🎄
valley season is perfect for winter
Imagine a winter season area in valley 
Imagine having winter for Christmas, not me. 
they can put another entrance at the right side of the ice rink.
Valley season pelase-
i will die in happiness if taht actually happened

Does anybody else’s game crashes when you tap on the new cape logo in cape shrine
We might have a fun Season like Sanctuary, and afterwards, LORE SEASON.
Imagine having light bulbs everywhere
Does anybody else’s game crashes when you tap on the new cape logo in cape shrine
@shy pumice The placeholder capes are bugged. They will crash when worn or seen. Do not buy them and attempt to wear them in the closet.
I think the thing I’m looking forward to possibly happening the most is if a facepalm emote gets added for when my friends do dumb stuff lol
max, that's because the items for these icons don't exist, so the game crashes and burns on itself
Oof, That sounds scary
don't buy and wear them like a certain big idiot, damn, so dumb, eugh
Lol
yooo if they actually give us more items from spirits, i would love to get that big pot from prairie lad
imagine eden as snowing place . it'll feel so sad and scary
it’s the same as the “floor is lava” bug from when prophecy false started
there’s just no code there so the game doesn’t know what to do when we open asection that has no code and it crashes
any clues how these new capes look like?
eden season? 
no, they literally don't exist in the game's data
I literally can’t wait for if they have a season in eden at some point
no, they literally don't exist
@kindred fossil but they will one day, right?
it’s the same as the “floor is lava” bug from when prophecy false started :sLaugh: there’s just no code there so the game doesn’t know what to do when we open asection that has no code and it crashes
@random gull dang that feels like it was a year ago lol, that was such a fun time, and then everyone left lol
i'd think so, we have no clear idea yet
floor is lava was apparently trial of water just on homespace
Except everywhere was water lol
it's amazing we are now part of sky beta memories. good job you guys
I remember someone even made a comic about it 
SPIRIT FARMING 
That sounds.....not ammm
TS didn’t give me wax 
seasonal spirits never gave you wax, that's for regular spirits
tses never gave wax so i don't think it would give you any now. (and just seasonal spirits in general)
Don't buy the new stuff since the same happened in Sanctuary and caused a lot of trouble. And i dont think this time we're gonna get the hearts back since it's a normal item so save ur hearts
12 minutes till reset 
fixes bowtie ahem ahem, autographs to the left, ladies
hahaha dark has always been rich
what do I get for being your friend before everyone wanted your autograph
yesss hugs are best
hugs
Cake?
a goodnight's sleep, maybe
the sneep police are everywhere
hey I got like 7 whole hours last night <_<
I’m confused
why is dark well known?
because they bought the new extension item and get into trouble because of it-
Dark is now a cautionary tale 
i'm the channel's not-so-funnyman, also i happen to wear one those bugged new mystery capes, now i'm locked out
Lmao- I was with a player at home and I was about to befriend them, guess what happened? I used the boogie emote and my game crashed immediately, then when I tried to enter the game again, it crashed svivis
dark’s just been around a while and is an active tester. blep and aeras and soap and spearmonkey are some others who are well known
Don't forget yourself, Kai!
dark’s just been around a while and is an active tester. blep and aeras and soap and spearmonkey are some others who are well known
@random gull ahhhh gotcha, thanks!
beta popularbois 
regulars would be a better fit, we're only active beta testers
wym I am not famous <_< shush
I have finish the season now BUT I CANT TAKE MY ANUBIS MASK
I hope to become a regular tester lol, i just recently got a discord just so I could join the beta this time
wait its not dark who buy the item extension??? then who is it?
kai, you're popular to the point where people dmed you about boogie spirit arriving and people reminding you to sneep. 
WHY? 😭😭😭😭
I have finish the season now BUT I CANT TAKE MY ANUBIS MASK
@odd plinth maybe try exiting the app and joining again??? Hopefully that could help!
that sounds more like "friends"
yeah that’s true. in the 15 minutes I took driving home I had something like 30 dms telling me that my fav spirit was coming
I have finish the season now BUT I CANT TAKE MY ANUBIS MASK
@odd plinth did you go in the prophecy caves? thats where the guide is
thats the only place you can get the ultimates now
I’ll try 😭😭😭
I'm gonna miss seeing prophet questgiver in beta 
@odd plinth
oh right, yulien, inch closer to the prophecy guide at home!
skylluminati confirmed
Hope you’ll be able to get it!!
I think my friends were more excited to see my reaction to it than the actual ts itself 
If you walk right up to the questgiver you should be able to get it!
Oh yeahhhh the weird glitch going on where it only shows either the daily quests or the season rewards, forgot that was happening
i dont think its a glitch?
its a new feature
now im so confused whether i should join next beta or not.... 
if you piggyback stack 3 skykids you get pretty close XD
It works better for me now , being chibi and trying to see quests really sucked big time
assert dominance by stacking 8 chibis
it's just that he's extremely tall
or a skykid with huge and grow spells piggybacks you hence my pfp of tiny kai hidint in val’s cape fluff
@random gull
kai are you chilling in wastland again or did you forgot to close sky again
I didn't realize that was what your pfp is 
You can always hop on top of the table too.
I’m candle running in wasteland XD
I’m candle running in wasteland XD
@random gullgood i thought you are chilling and getting krilled there
tell me how the candle conversion behaves pls!!
@odd plinth did you go in the prophecy caves? thats where the guide is
thats the only place you can get the ultimates now
@strong canopy YAY I TAKE IT!!!! ThanksSO MUCH!!!
there is some kind of new quests in the spirits like the vault white cape spirit- like 150 hearts for capeless or another thing as i guess im not sure
lets gooooooooo @odd plinth
basically at reset it’ll say something like thank you for participating in the season and candles rain down from the heavens and become normal ones
Soooo... Season is finished
No, you don’t have to go to caves to get the Ultimates. That’s just for the hearts after each trial.
Soooo... Season is finished
@fervent patrol its gonna finsh soon-
basically at reset it’ll say something like thank you for participating in the season and candles rain down from the heavens and become normal ones
@random gull nono i mean today, i cant play atm lol. tell me if its as usual or anything new ty !
No, you don’t have to go to caves to get the Ultimates. That’s just for the hearts after each trial.
@hollow compass it changed with the last update
Blep, since the update the questgiver wasn't showing the seasonal symbol option, only the quests options, so had to go to cave
I’m so rich. What should I invest in?
now waiting season start XD
Wait, so it's not finished yet? The Season in Beta
Wait, so it's not finished yet? The Season in Beta
@fervent patrolidk about beta
I’m so rich. What should I invest in?
@tender knoll capes huhuhuhu
Seems like it is finished in beta now
I am **r i c h ** 
Why is there still season candles?
I- why are seasonal candles in forest?
i thought you meant normal one @fervent patrol
I didn't get anubis mask
congrats to us guys. we are part of sky beta memories.
I wonder if lizard man is back because of thatskyshop?
If you go to the website there's a countdown
guys the sneepy spirit is back 
watching 400 candles is fun
So new beta invited coming soon or something?
I wonder if lizard man is back because of thatskyshop?
If you go to the website there's a countdown
@fresh quiver i think so. or the upcoming xmas event
The sneepy spirit? When was the guy there before?
snorp! 
Also, what exactly does progress swipe delete.
the spirit on the boat in home space
we don't know when beta invites come, though they happen around when season ends in live. again we don't know the exact time.
Also, what exactly does progress swipe delete.
@analog pumice a progress wipe deletes all your data/items/friends etc.
it's the devs weekend so probably we'll get a news or something tomorrow. well, probably the news will be "chill you guys"
The sleepy spirit arrived before thatskyshop opened!
as last time ;)
The changes are gone in the spirit trees

Gone?
Wait, is it gonna be a progress wipe or access wipe 
Ah it didn't show new season logo 
"ah, yes. time to carry some skykids into my boa-
wait what do you mean I'm early-" 
The changes in the spirit trees are gone..?
The changes are gone in the spirit trees
@vapid drum bruh lmao
whats with the sleepy boat guy?
Merch 
change is what the motto in beta
“Oh that was just a glitch there’s no new stuff guys chill”
maybe its just gone for a while as it made us crash, but its not gone forever 👁️
I wonder what new stuff is coming in Skyshop? More pins? More items related to Sky lore? Lore stuff makes me hyped-
after every beta testing season an access wipe happens, meaning you lose access to beta and have to rejoin through an invite wave.
progress wipes are different
I'm gonna be very frustrated if thatskyshop opens again before my order from the last time even ships 
after every beta testing season an access wipe happens, meaning you lose access to beta and have to rejoin through an invite wave.
progress wipes are different
@copper bison alright, thank you! I figured it would be an access wipe but then someone asked about the progress wipe and I got worried lol
Nothing new?
O h
maybe the sleepy traveler appeared to remind us to get a rest after this season.
what with the boat guy is doing in home space again
i should get a discount on my next order for them opening new orders before all the pre-orders got filed
/joking
The boat isn't only related to thatskyshop, maybe there would be a new event
When it comes to lore we’re never satisfied lol, they could release the ost to purchase and we’d be hoping for lore bits with it
Most likely Christmas
Wait, there was another update to beta and the items are gone?
look at that sky shop website. there's a new countdown up there too
There wasn't an update, I guess they just disappeared after reset
What about the ones people bought?
Still gone in closet (don't wear it)
That’s weird, they haven’t disappeared for me yet
they can push some changes without requiring us to update, they already did that
I still see the extended spirit tress tho? 
Oh? Someone said they were gone 
pspsps dark I have candles now lemme unlock piggy with your moth <_<
I really hope I get into the next beta wave, I enjoy talking with y’all lol
That and beta testing is fun too, I suppose lol
ok game, I was able to honk and deep call just a few minutes ago and now you crash when I honk to a stranger? 
game still crashes if I look at dark’s star <_< I should really differentiate the two somehow
the candle counter 
I should probably sleep now rip
Haha the season ended but there’s still seasonal candles in forest
seriously?
Wait, the unknown items are still there, I just checked
Wow
I honked at friend in home space, went to forest with them, did not honk whatsoever, crashed towards the end of first part of forest... Went back in, honked a lot, strangers honked a lot, did not crash -
seasonal candles aren’t colelcting anything though
the forbidden honk
I should probably sleep now rip
Goodnight
hmm, yeah; i saw light come out from the seasonal candles, but they don't seem to be adding to any counters
there's an issue with friends when they honk/sit at your table. on android but not iOS
I haven't updated my beta game so—
Is the next seasonal pass pre-order here now?
Let me guess...It's a black box
mmm, idk if i should join again. there's no point, i can't test. 
i checked all the mobile devices in my house today. android 10, android 10, android 8. all huawei devices made to the public before may 16, 2019. supports google play services and are certified by play protect. 2 of which had sky previously installed and was able to run. all suddenly incompatible.
nothing visible in the in-game store about the next season's pre-order pass (i.e. there's nothing in the in-game store right now)
we need patch-notes
All of us are getting confused now
Kai did you try the troubleshooting solutions in the pins in #android-questions ?
yep, several times.
how are there still people with moth symbol 
dangit I crashed again right when my friend found me 
android beta invites letting people in when they shouldn't? i dunno. (i know what the other reason is, i just heard the android beta invites were being weird before so unless it got fixed it could of been that.) why is tablet suddenly laggy, just plugged in the charger 
hope it's a crush. okay bye
testing for new seasons begins around the time the season is near conclusion in live, not beta
i don't believe testing for the new season happens before they've publicly announced a teaser for it, right?
IT is too soon for new season i think
There needs to be an access wipe first.
hm, not sure, prophecy's teaser came earlier than expected
Realy
The teaser might pop up, though. That was a new thing for Prophecy.
I’m sure it’ll be fine! ..... Right?
yeah. remember that picture, where everyone goes nuts after tgc posted it
tbh i forgot about the 'Beware the Prophecy' picture ->-
I was there when it was dropped
It was 2:30 AM and I was actually about to sleep but then it came out of nowhere and I hyperventilated
i was at my bed and boi. i feel like my whole existence woke up
I was in bed and about to get out to put my stuff down but then
it showed up
that was the most amazing teaser drop where the whole community turned into lore hell
In my time line is 9.31 and i am in the school
I mean, prophecy was certainly hard but I'm not wary of it yet.
Not saying I fully understand the murals though 
and I distinctly remember typing “SEASON OF PROPHECY?!” and calling it that pretty much ever since it was revealed
and it turned out to be the right name
i don't remember what happened exactly on that day. if chat went wild though i was probably offline cause i can't deal with hectic chat. unless it's beta invite chat time. 
BRuh mY cANdles go BRRrrrrrr
The only thing I remember is that I predicted the location of the entrance-
people were speculating that it'll be in vault
the first thing I said about it was “AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA”
I was chatting with my friends and I was like; the only realm without a season? Isle, and then I started to explore the map and choose the most likely place for the entrance vejcs
ppl hoped there would be a chat carpet :(
yeah. that was an amazing idea.
i mean vault hasn't had a season yet iirc
“Lore brain is going vibrating washing machine noises”
- Me
but we experienced hell. the death loops. the brutal trials. but it was amazing.
ppl hoped there would be a chat carpet :(
I am ppl.
the missing shy fire boi. haha fun moments
I’m going to miss Proph a lot
looking forward to whatever succeeds it but I’ll seriously miss the spirits
I miss the Enchantment gang a lot
Has someone crashed in home space? I don't seem to crash there even with the honking
ill miss them all 
I'm gonna miss the highlighter rock 😭
Me! I crashed twice at home and once at the forest with crabs
I've crashed in home space, I once crashed three times in a row
I hope to get into the Beta of whatever’s next
Me too
Ok thanks :' )
ah yes, the neon pink highlighter rock 
Remember the floor is lava bug?I do
Vault had season already
it did? 
i guess i don't remember correctly then 
I don’t hope that the changes in the spirit trees was from developer playing with it , like last time with Eden bug
hahaha I remember that pink rock. someone said an inappropriate joke
I can't see any beta-updates note.. Does anyone know what was updated on Saturday?
I mean, only the past three seasons have been specifically focused on one realm
Should i join beta next season? i was a little burnt out last time, but its sounding more and more fun again 
Was there an update? I saw some clips of cutscenes but idk if they're real or fanmade--
If you have time to test and do bug reports, then yes
do you mean this?
- Improvements for Facebook Friend Finder
- Introducing Serendipity matchmaking for Facebook and STAR
- Revamped the Spirit Memories of the “Point” and “Come” spirits for better readability
- You and I STAR pin functionality is now enabled
- Traveling Spirit updates
dark and i were yelling at each other over who got to spend candles on friendship upgrades with her moth 
do you mean this?
- Improvements for Facebook Friend Finder
- Introducing Serendipity matchmaking for Facebook and STAR
- Revamped the Spirit Memories of the “Point” and “Come” spirits for better readability
- You and I STAR pin functionality is now enabled
- Traveling Spirit updates
@copper bison
Oh yes!! This is what I was looking for.
i think later will have alot beta-known-issues out or.. not
hopped into beta and I got sad when my season candles converted to regular candles
do you mean this?
- Improvements for Facebook Friend Finder
- Introducing Serendipity matchmaking for Facebook and STAR
- Revamped the Spirit Memories of the “Point” and “Come” spirits for better readability
- You and I STAR pin functionality is now enabled
- Traveling Spirit updates
@copper bison
Where did you find it?
I remember the pinck
I drew it once: #beta-screenshots-videos message
google play store, beta app description
I thought seasonal candles doesn't converted to regular candles in beta. I was wrong 😔
they do
i have 350 candles right now!
where'd the rest of your candles go? that's basically what i got from conversion 
they do :sLaugh: i have 350 candles right now!
@random gullrich how
spear u know i am always broke from upgrading fruends. i had literally like 1.5 candles before conversion
hello broke in live and in beta gang

Sup
Hi, I would like to ask if there is a transparent cape in sky or sky beta, and in case it was there how I could get it? I heard it's secret item
You have to complete vault constellation and then pay 999 hearts for it :' )
Yes, there’s an invisible cape
To get it, you need to finish Vault and then buy the elder hair for it
and then it costs 999 hearts after Vault’s elder hair
It’s just a silly cosmetic thats meant to not be obtainable, considering that a progress wipe can happen when the devs need it and that will wipe all progress you have (except friends)
But the invisible cape is in Beta only.
lmao ios players got a huge weapon against android players, the power of the HONK 😭😭😭
laughs in ios
Thank you
the forbidden honk
We android players are more affected then crabs.
apart from crashes and such, i just love this patch so far, thank you devs 🙏🏻
I can turn off my internet while going to isle. Yes honk can't flip me
Where does honk crash have an effect? I tried honking in my android devices but it doesn't seem to crash...
I'm not sure Mioleen, it crashes kind of randomly for me... Once crashed right after a deep call in the loads of crabs area in wasteland, otherwise twice in forest, but the first crash no one called from when I entered forest and the moment I crashed, I had only called in home space... Second time was right at the end of the crying spirit cutscene, and before that I had meditated and some people had honked
Can’t wait for the chat to go crazy again when they announce beta wipes
Overall it was a fun filled season in beta :> I think this chat group also was a big reason why it was super fun haha
Same in prairie yesterday, the gap between the honks and the crashing are really spaced out sometimes
if ios players honk, android players will crash, but if ios players make deep calls near by android players, it won’t cause crash. but we are investigating more 👀
I bought new cape and when I wear it my game is crashing-
@quick carbon same with me lmao
Hi

Hi
@quick carbon damn, you shouldn't have, the game will keep crashing since the item you wore doesn't exist, you'll be locked out until this is resolved
They said "curiosity kill the cat" is true. And that new cape just blinking in outfit shrine annoyingly
you should be fine as long as you don't equip it, unlike a certain big idiot (me)
it’s not only about the new cape guys. about earlier, if you are an ios player and you are not visible to an android friend (beyond a wall or such), and they honk to warp to you, they will crash
hmmm so where is this new cape new thing? is it in the closet?
yes, but the new capes are dangerous for both versions
It's not new cape then, a "mysterious cape"
right, for all we know they wouldn't be capes either
whatever it is, don't buy it, don't equip it
@kindred fossil wise advice 🙏🏻
mysterious capes, makes your game crash faster than eden krills
whats with the spirit update on the consolation? :/
no idea what it could be
it's the cape of death
oh what will happen if you bought it?
nothing, your hearts might be wasted on an item that doesn't exist BUT if you equip the cape, you'll get locked out and won't be able to log on, so i advice against either
trust me, i was the cape
you bought it? thats bad
eh, it's only 9 hearts, rather one person gets locked out than a dozen
Ok , feeling kinda stupid for saying that the spirit trees changed back to normal again ........... seems I didn’t updated my phones sky beta yet 🤣.lucky for me I was able to buy a few elder hairs now 😬
I think the new capes are placeholders for new elder items. Please correct me if I’m wrong but there have been 6 new additions to the spirit trees, 6 elders... To be completely honest i think they’ve possibly scrapped the no cape item entering Live, either they’ve crapped it OR the twins offer two separate items again. Either way the capeless cape was also introduced on the spirit tree and later moved the the vault elder.
hmm....
Ø confuses us all
that's plausible actually, but there are 9 additions to the constellations
9?!!
Any rumours on TS
beta doesn't get TS any earlier than live, please wait for the official teaser
Wait what — 6 spirits? I only know praying acolyte and manta whisperer.
@mossy lintel we won’t know till the new TS is here
oh, right. the current system we're testing is very early into development and won't be implemented into live any time soon, there was an update recently but we won't see the difference until the next TS
Thanks Dark

I wonder if these additions would make it harder for new players to earn elder hair or if they are treated as add ons
reliving spirits gives candles ??

laughs in spirit-obsessed and somehow has a lot of the names memorised
Sorry to ask. What those the boat at home for? Did tgc sell something again?
Its in live too, the shop will be re-opening 
i love the way you can choose which realm to do according to your mood, cause spirits give you enough wax. this changes the dynamics of grinding, now you can choose maybe where to go, which realm you are up for. that’s awesome to me
Lizard Man returns
Guys we’re witnessing a moment of history here: Ktjn is offline (completely)

it's a little creepy to announce someone's online status like that 
let ktjn sneep 
I'm gonna pretend like i did get sleep
yall didn't see me here an hour ago
uh I have a question,is this a bug or nah? the season ended but the seasonal candle are still here

the seasonal candles are a bug. you don't collect any wax from them currently in beta or just shows the animation of collecting
well,I can lit them up and when I collect it, the candle bar when up a bit 
it's not actually going up. it's showing the animation is all
oh ok thanks

Aw I know she’s not always actually online guys, but she said she kept her Discord status on all the time, so this is a bit odd hehe

lizard man has returned
yeah it just kinda falls into the same category as the people who announced when she was typing and she's expressed that it made her uncomfortable so it's just more out of respect. we do have to think about how our actions affect others even if our intentions aren't ill 
also the shop is reopening soon and my manta pin still hasnt arrived 
Oof I must have missed that message because of the cough medicine. Thanks Kai ❤️
if it makes you feel better my order hasnt even shipped yet lost i spent $150 it wasnt a small order
dumb question, why is the spirit called lizard man?
because we joked that he slept so long he hibernated
he sleeps with his eyes open and sleeps for long periods of time
ohh lol thank you!
I hope this time there will be non - NFC pin. I dont want game spells I want a cool accessory on my outfit for every single day of the week

its a beta specific joke but skybot will randomly talk about lizard people on sky and confuse general chat 
wait really? 
#lore-discussion-spoilers message last one was in lore channel
just searched it up, no way

Lizard man reminds me of taxi drivers in my country. They sleep by their vehicles in the most crowded places possible

only beta knows
and i die every time skybot says it
aw my alarm is about to go off i should probably go getvready for the day
general reminder dont equip the mystery capes or buy null (/) items
if you don't want the exciting experience of an eternal crash loop 
sadly, those warnings don't work well with beta testers:
"We shouldn't do this thing in the beta build? Challenge accepted" 

Why not clicking on the null items? I thought game crashing over random things is part of the unique beta experience

im actually one unlock away from getting it, darn
i wonder what it even does
because someone whose game fully equipped the item on them now crashes on startup, so they're effectively locked out of their account completely 
we can do it for fun! but equipping one you've bought seems to be a vip ticket to crashland
one-way irreversible tests are the worst ones to deal with
Crashland seems like a new Sky realm that arrives with this beta build whether the dev likes it or not 🌝🌝
its 13 ascended candles so its either supposed to be really special or the devs way of saying "dont buy this or you will die"
13 ac? is that the buff?
null items will just waste your money. you pay for something and get literally nothing in return. even when they add an item to the null spot, it will show as not having been bought. the double capes right now softlock you out of the game until the devs add code to actually display the item. it crashed because there’s no code there and the game goes “uh what do?” and crashes because it has nothing to display to you
yea! i think,, i may be wrong haha
if it is it's definitely eeexpensive 
the extra wing buffs themselves don't cause crashes as far as i can tell, it's the new dummy capes which are the problem
where do you equip it anyhoo? is it an instrument or a cape or sumth? 
that’s why the game also crashes if you view a friend’s star who has the item equipped ^^; or if you preview it in the closet. at least those latter two don’t lock you out of the game like buying and equipping the cape does
they're in the cape closet iirc
ohh, i wonder what they're gonna do
yup they’ll be greyed out capes in the cape closet. if you preview and crash, it was one of the dummy capes you tried on. wing buffs just act like normal wing buffs right now. I went to eden and bought one and it did get added to my wing buff count
we'll see! for now don't touch the cursed item 
Fun story: I was viewing the friend constellation and saw that Dark was the only friend I haven’t lit, so I lit him. Little did I know .....

ironically, this might be one of the few situations where people would welcome the moth bug 
yeah if you’re friends with dark, don’t touch her star right now
she made a new moth account and I think I may one of the few people she’s readded after arguing with her over which of us got to spend candles upgrading our friend tree and maxing it out instantly
Too late Kai, too late 
this sign wont stop me because i cant read!
i don't remember who i added on beta
Me! But only because we met in game.
excuse me for repeating the question, but the new spirits locks give a wing? I could not check, because I do not remember the exact number of my wings after death
Sorry dark i mistyped you as a “he”, too much cough medicine

this sign wont stop me because i cant read!
but i can show you how the crash goes: #beta-screenshots-videos message
i mean, that doesnt happen to everyone who opens up a friendship star with a bugged cosmetic right? unless? 
it does happen to everyone who has me added
If I bought a cape for 30 hearts then I just lost them??
it's the new "quit game" button
most likely, yes
where is the temple of the elders?

Extra season to appreciate beta testers: Season of ..... Demolishment?
Well it looks like we finally get what #wishlist-and-ideas-archived always wants: single player mode
are you referring to the message where the spirit can't be relived again?
Do we know what the boat at home is for? just noticed its in beta and live
No idea, sorry.
Do we know what the boat at home is for? just noticed its in beta and live
@potent heron That sky shop is opening again. I presume its for that like last time
oooo thank you
@terse vigil Please don’t post the same question over multiple channels. Your question doesn’t seem beta specific either, so it was more correctly placed in #questions-and-help 🙂
I thought I’d let others know this because it’s amazing and important ....
if you have a iPhone 12 mini/12 /12 pro/ 12 pro max this is for you
start up the built in screen recorder so it’s recording & open sky or the other way round it doesn’t matter and you will have 60 fps easily with not the slightest frame drop or stutter just perfect .
I tested for a couple of hours and I’m very happy to share this temporary fix until either apple or tgc fix the issue .... hopes everyone using this enjoys cause Iam so much ... Thankyou to the person who told me and now I can enjoy looking for bugs and look forward to the future of sky 😭
Just saw lots of folk went ptsd after hearing about the traveling spirits update, sky isn't a competitive game for who's looks better. They might as well move to leaderboards based game (obviously where they all come from)
How will the travellers be updated?
Can someone explain the ts update?
I thought I’d let others know this because it’s amazing and important ....
if you have a iPhone 12 mini/12 /12 pro/ 12 pro max this is for youstart up the built in screen recorder so it’s recording & open sky or the other way round it doesn’t matter and you will have 60 fps easily with not the slightest frame drop or stutter just perfect .
I tested for a couple of hours and I’m very happy to share this temporary fix until either apple or tgc fix the issue .... hopes everyone using this enjoys cause Iam so much ... Thankyou to the person who told me and now I can enjoy looking for bugs and look forward to the future of sky 😭
@desert mango You could just set the graphic to two thunder bolts, which is 60 fps. I don't know why they make 3 thunder bolts at lesser graphic.
high definition 30fps vs high performance 60fps. the 60fps is lower definition but moves faster.
Picture at 60 fps looks better than high def 30 fps on my tablet. I can tell... High def is blurry and 60 fps is sharper and more details
the 30fps high def is crisp if you stand still 
LOL, I'm not going to play by standing still all the time am I?
It's been a while ~∆~
I hope there will be an ice rink at home at Christmas soon
@tranquil mortar
we won't see the TS update until the next TS
Hiya
Ah thanks Dark!
It does not work in game .. the game won’t give iPhone 12 60 fps unless you do the recorder thing
Has Anyone manage to buy and equip for example the "second" yellow/orange cape ?
I bought it, i can now equip two yellow cape from the butterfly spirit, the first one which already existed before, and the second one which is at the top of the spirit's item, but whenever i try to equip it, the game crash
we have only placeholders so no, it's the same case with season_intro_08 if the game tries to load an asset that doesn't exist then it crash
What do you mean?
that icon of the second cape just says to the game "hey an item should be here" but that item is not added yet to the game so it doesn't have something to load and it crash
Oooh does it mean that we will have new items in the future (or is it just its mask that just doesn't show the right icon)?
yeah it seems like that's the intention here to add more items and we don't know if they are strictly capes
iirc dark managed to get and equip one of the placeholder capes and it just locked her into an inescapable crash loop as it's just a null item
Maybe the same cape, like yellow, but with different look on the back, for the light power indicator maybe
we'll see! for now they don't give you anything but a crash
dark is back in beta but as a moth now the account with the bad cape equipped still crashes anyone that looks at it
Who is dark?
Someone know in the sky conmunity?
darkness#0490 that user
an active tester here
Mmh yeah i just scrolled up a bit amd saw him
As the items are not yet in game it causes crash ..
Dark is she/her pronouns
so dark have an error kinda like the wallpaper of months ago that killed phones by putting them in a reboot loop? :0 omg but this time kinda killed her account
I don't know for you.... But it sounds like a mew season is coming👀👀i would love a season in ||eden||
Looking forward to sky’s future a lot ... I have the same feeling I had when I first started playing ... such a good move by tgc ...
we won't see the new season in beta until after invite waves are over. since we don't even have the access wipe notification yet let's be patient about that 
yes but seasons usually don't add something to base game spirits this is very interesting probably they're gonna add the new UI in the next patch with the new items
It’s extra to the game not a season ... makes the game bigger and longer to complete which is needed
I think I can sense some major updates coming to beta soon! For now let’s wait for some dev closure, hopefully we will see news later today, it’s still 6:28 for TGC so they’re probably still half asleep and not at work yet
Imagine if new season will be very - very winter themed and cozy 
Btw, if you didn't yet, i advise you to revive isle's spirits again.... You might be surprise....
Beta update notes tell you what their doing but not what it is ... it’s just added stuff to constellation ...
valley is snowy 😮 maybe we'll get a season in valley 
I bet it'll be valley
Well, imo, i want something different than another winter themed season
Olympic themed season with snow everywhere??? Count me in 
I am going to scream if it's actually in valley and my random guess is right <_< sport themed winter season sounds fun ngl
I really don’t think these will be seasonal items, since they’re all on normal spirit trees and it’s so early for new season things
Yup
Valley or vault are the most likely to get a new area
I doubt it’ll be valley again bc Rhythm was sorta valley themed
But ||eden|| would be hella cool
I wonder what happens when every realm gets a seasonal area, will there be a new season format or something else?
fixfizz you don't need to spoiler tag things here
I does got butterfly’s about the whole thing not knowing ... I’m in on whatever is planned -
@oak berry maybe the cycle will repeat or something new will come
I’m SO excited to see what comes next
rhythm was across all the realms tho. only one spirit in valley
Everyone is
But don't let your excitement ruin your experience
Also, that's your wish :)
this is true. it's fun to theorize but we should be very clear that it's theories and not actual content 
fixfizz you don't need to spoiler tag things here
@stark sundial i wasn't sure lol, thanks for telling me
Yeah, but the main end cutscene was in valley so i assume it to be valley/winter @random gull
I said sorta valley themed
But hopefully these new items are the new elder items Jenova tweeted about a while ago, remember how no-cape began originally on a normal spirit and then moved behind vault elder? Maybe it’s something like this
But ofc enchatement started a new cycle (I'll exclude forest from that cause the caverns was a really big area)
iirc the welcome scene happened in valley because the day the season started was daily quest in valley <_< that was 10 months ago tho so my memory is foggy
@ionic bluff
Jenova tweeted? I don't do twitter :(😳
Yep, jenova is on Twitter, I’ll try to find the tweet again but it was about how there’s eventually gonna be more items in the elder shops in orbit
I just want INSTRUMENTS this time. Prolly they can reduce the amount of hairstyles cause we already have alot and focus on instruments 😳
yeah Jarvis ktjn already confirmed that the invisicape was moved there while they're planning to add more ultimate gifts
nah, any info about the next season is unfounded speculation
That is a rumor, nobody knows.
We don't even have a pinch of info about new season
I'm repeating this but I really hope they make the percentage to get the first ultimate gift of a constellation more lower so moths get there quick and then make the new ultimate gifts at 100% for the older players 
Didn’t ktjn also confirm that the invisible cape will eventually be coming to live? I remember being here when she was talking about it, but my memory is foggy
yeah if we don't have it in beta then any info you find on new season is pure speculation
Maybe, you got confused, season of dreams was a fan made Season iirc
no Jarvis invisicape still in testing and that item getting to live is not 100% confirmed yet
Season of dreams was a fictional season made by nastymold, a youtuber
Hmmm, I’m gonna have to recheck what ktjn said bc they said something about invisible cape coming to live, or maybe I was just completely delirious from being tired and couldn’t comprehend anything
h e l p.
Yes, ktjn said that it's being planned
Lots of baseless rumors going around in youtube. Let’s just wait for the official announcements.
If they really gonna add new elder item, i hope it would be their c l o t h e s
about invisicape getting to live the only thing that ktjn mentioned recently was that it could get to live to clarify people saying that it will end up in live 100%, for this you just need to refer to the penultimate pinned msg here
Hmm
☀Nichi☀ in this case you're referring to unofficial information wich could be obtained through illegitimate ways or just plain false
nichi there's hackers on youtube who do things with the game that very much break TOS and we're not allowed to talk about here. If you come across stuff like that dm thathelpbot with a link to the info and don't bring it up here. any info you find from unofficial sources (if it's not run by TGC it's not official) should be reported and not discussed here.
Or even better, their accessories
Isle would be... cane? Prairie is the pot, Forest is hammer (please-), Valley is their sticks (idk the english), Wasteland is shield, and Vault would be memory lantern
YES, gimme spear and shield, and I'll fight the krills
Oh sorry. Wont make that mistake again..
I dream about stilts - to be able to walk unaffected in sludge and among crabs safely.
Wow thats realy good idea
it's ok. now you know for future 
Forest elder's outfit is amazing too with those floating cloth stripes, that'll look amazing if it becomes a cosmetic
I just wanna wear mr prairie elders clothing, hopefully this happens
I meant if this is potentially elder items)
I want valley paddles, idc if there is no actual use for it, i will always carry it everywhere
use the valley paddles to wack krill- y e a h.
I want the butterfly pot
I hope it becomes a cosmetic we can get from butterfly charmer or maybe Prairie second ultimate
Like, it'll be filled with butterflies and can recharge you when you're out of charge and need to fly but it'll have a long cooldown Before it can be used again
But if we actually get elder clothes
my oc will look fabulous in valley suit 
Also, i think after invisicape, Butterfly pot or the valley elders' elf masks are the most likely to become ultimates, just what i think tho
If this happens, expect me to be grinding like all heck on live..
Elf masks-
What if they're like chibi masks but with elf ears

yES YES
The twins are elves confirmed? SKYKIDS ARE ELVES OF LIGHT????
For anyone confused, Just see the valley elders closely and see their masks, I'm taking about those :)
Did somebody say elder clothes? Because I really like Sanctuary Guide’s sandals.
bc it’s like pointy in the back, torwards their ears it goes 🔻
Omg, i would love short pants with those sandals which many Spirits wear
imo, There are still so many ideas for new Cosmetics, i hope some of these become true in the future 😳
For an entire second I was thinking about if normal spirits gave u their pants and I was like “omg normal spirit pants “ and I completely forgot normal ingame pants exist
Give me their height
I literally don’t have a brain
Yeah, but they aren't exactly the same as Spirits, they don't come with the sandals,
Im cancelling the order
Bro imagine if we actually meet eden elder someday and their ultimate gift is the Eden Crown
Ah yes, imagine 8 fire Prophet sized skids walking around in home
Giant party!
caramelldansen bass boosted playing
Eden 👑 might become an ultimate for completing all the constellations
It makes sense lore wise
^imagine
would be nice, but TGC hasn't announced if that will even be a thing yet or not
the hypothetical ultimate flex lol
imagine we are just fantasizing about these elder items and these mystery items literally just turn out to be cape redesigns
I've only seen the Eden crown as a fanmade cosmetic idea. Nothing official
Since we are the kings reincarnation. Maybe, after giving light to all elders and spirits, Everyone feels obliged to give us what we had before. Our crown?
Does that make sense😂?
oh, technically that lore idea isn't settled either
as in that isn't confirmed by TGC either
complete all elders: become G O D
would love to see it in game! Make sure you put it in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived 
im so far behind on sky lore.. does anyone know a place that details all the things confirmed by TGC?
Sorry wait that sounds rude. Im sorry
there's a doc of canon lore in the pins of #lore-discussion-spoilers
TGC deliberately keeps a lot of the lore vague so everyone can interpret the game's story as they want, so most of the content of the channel is speculation
there's very little confirmed canon as a result
ohh i didn't even realize, ty! i'll be sure to read it later
Would be really cool if the new cape star designs actually mess with the actual design of the cape, like patternwise. I know they removed the similar pattern idea in original beta bc of lagging issues but imagine if they find a way to re-add it! would probably get a lot of people to start wearing normal capes again instead of entirely seasonal
this is just my imagination, probably won’t happen
Don't judge me but i like the plain Design a lot more than the patterns 😂
The patterns look trippy😂
@hexed quail sorry for ping pong, but you tried to equip the mystery cape, right? are you stuck in a crash loop or the game resets you back to your previous cape?
Reasonable! It’s simplistic and chill :))
This update is dizzying me, lot to take in
I recommended waiting till an announcement in #beta-announcements
Maybe it'll be clarified there (i hope)
Oh yes this was unannounced update, am i right
The chat is whizzing about the same things over and over again and it’s all pretty overwhelming, no one knows what’s gonna happen
Yeah, because it was a weekend and ktjn was on a holiday 😊
we'll probably get some clarification either later today or sometime this week. Ktjn already clarified for us that the TS update won't happen until the next TS
let's go another "dark is big dumb and stuck" topic in the next 2 hours!
Let ktjn and also rest of tgc enjoy Christmas eve ... Shut down sky 😂
Lol, they've kept the surprise, i think It'll just be reverted back to the original ts system. But idrk?
Cheer up dark, ur little mishap let us know what happens and also let tgc know what happens if u buy the nonexistent item of d e a t h 
honestly witnessing that crash happen in real time was kinda funny ngl Dark
Yeah, imagine going all pumped and excited to try on the "new capes" and then the game go brrrrrrrr
after my phone crashing 36 times
was funny to see ios crash. but the science was irresistible
oh the things people do to test sky

i'm starting to get suspicious of others not getting into the crash loop, i think the only reason that i am locked out was because i wore it at orbit while not having collected any wingbuffs. i didn't crash immediately, i crashed after previewing the other mystery capes
wearing capes you own at orbit don't display on your character
watch me try later in home space and get myself locked out of beta too on an android I can't force restart like ios
science
@hexed quail sorry for ping pong, but you tried to equip the mystery cape, right? are you stuck in a crash loop or the game resets you back to your previous cape?
@kindred fossil the game just resets me to my previous cape luckily !
that must be it, the server doesn't register that you've worn that cape
and i didn't equiped it in the orbit
i waited to be resurrected
so, i'm stuck because i did something very specific! it's not as dangerous as it seems
yeah I'm definitely gonna go heart collecting later to buy one and try it on tonight >_> ima say my goodbyes now 
this cape-thing is till triggering me tho.... full of question i am indeed #yodastyle
Whatever the items are it’s awesome ... I’m happy to have anything extra and more to do in game regarding constellation and farming hearts candles and ascended candles ...because it’s sky And tgc I don’t doubt it will be greatness as always .
to see the community happy hyped and positive about everything is what really makes my day .... 🤍
after i finish live version ( which will not take so long for me) my next goal will be this 999-hearts no-cape item 
finishing live feels so far away.. completing constellations requires so much patience lol
I wonder what are they planning to do with the traveling spirit though
so nervous
!whatsnewinbeta
Improvements.
New season, when
At improvements O’ clock
We dont know. The season just ended in beta, so it'll be a few more weeks before we get any news
I'm rather excited to see these new capes tho
What is the Sky bot's profile pic?
Hey guys, I heard something about Season of Dreams?? Is it true??
Hey guys, I heard something about Season of Dreams?? Is it true??
@undone pendant there's no new season yet, the current season just ended, so it'l be awhile before we know!
skybots pfp is from old beta
ah i see.
Hope to see a new instrument with 15 notes again. Last ones were in rhythm I think
finishing live feels so far away.. completing constellations requires so much patience lol
@spark lance i just need 100 more hearts hehe
There's a lot of fanmade season ideas circulating social media and other places. If the source isn't TGC, don't trust it as official information! 
i finished a month or two ago, but all together that almost took a year
Hello guys, I want to ask you all if traveling spirits are going to be bought by pass 💔💔💔💔😭
and again me, and again the question
how many wings can you collect now? including new locks of course
// I counted about 157, is that correct?
What is wrong with the developer's message that there will be a change in the traveling spirit, does anyone understand? 😭
I've seen videos talking about this beta update and they say to wait for the next traveling spirit to see what they changed 
Although I'm not a beta tester, I still wish to learn things 
@azure heath that won't be coming anytime soon to live, it's still very early into development
Yeah, and there are still items you can get from the TS even with this system
I will ask the last question I asked a lot, Hahaha, Buying from spirits traveling If they become with pass,
does the pass have should be from the season of traveling spirit .. or the pass is available with me as a prophecy, for example?
the pass that would be required is whichever current season is ongoing
it's still being tested tho, so no need to worry about that yet
the next TS is prolly gonna come before any passes for the next season can be bought or pre ordered so well get our first good look at how its gonna work between seasons. Maybe thats the "changes" that are in the patch notes
Ohh thanks all😍😍😍
does anyone know if Beta will close and re-open again before the next season :O?
depending on what you mean by "close". beta access will be wiped for everyone so you won't be able to download updates if you don't rejoin the new invite waves. But you can still access the beta server if you have the app downloaded in between access getting wiped and the next beta uupdate
Season of Dreams is fanmade.
Do wonder where it came from, I've heard people talk about it in game as well
I haven’t had a crash in beta aside from when clicking on the non-existing new bug-items in the closet >< so I haven’t gotten into any crash loops yet
Lyze, it was supposed to be a fun make believe season on Nasty’s discord, where people could make the concept art for different emotes,cosmetics etc.. I believe she also had season of darkness among other fan made seasons :D
Oh! I saw the season of darkness(It was cool
) but I didn't see Dreams 
the crashing with beeps and sometimes randomly is android onnly. if you're on an ios device they seem to only be crashing when previewing the buggy capes
i...i was in isle charging by the winged light and someone honked...instantly crashed 
strange that me and a player i merged with could burn the big plant in forest temple yesterday tho lol
and again me, and again the question
how many wings can you collect now? including new locks of course// I counted about 157, is that correct?
I repeat, because no one answered, but I need to know the maximum available number
should be 160 for iOS, i think
I was so confused about 158 before I remembered we have new base game wing buffs
thank you generously
!whatsnewinbeta
Improvements.
@tender oasis #beta-discussion message
now that i realize this i hope i didn't cause mass paranoia
Ohhh thank you Dark.
didn’t see this message from before. Interesting.
I still wanna check it myself later so I might be begging friends for heart trades to buy one of the things and see if I lock myself out equipping it in home space
No not at all, at least I’m not paranoid. I’m just really curious most of the time about how things work and try them in a bunch of different ways. Let me know Kai when u need.
i feel the topic is a little tired at this point, no need for Wholesome Daily Reminders anymore as it'll only crash your game once and rob you of your hearts, and that's mildly annoying at best
I'm here for this experiment kai!
already sent a heart :nyoom:
Me toooo
i crashed a lot, im android user btw
are the crash android only?
yall dm me for details >_> I have a detail about my science experiment I do not wanna share to public chat nothing "illegal" I promise, I just have enough people mad at me for various things so I don't wanna cause more people with misunderstandings to be upset with me
had no crashes as iOS, aside from the obvious which i mentioned over and over and over... so yeah, android is crash galore for this build
i think only android 
kai
i bought some of these items. do you want me to tell you what happens?
what happens is well known at this point
then idk what they are tryna do
fun beta activities
Morue I don't think you wanna risk losing access to beta potentially permanently
this is my experiment
I'm the kind of wild child that saw the null items in sanctuary knowing full well it was the same as the null enchantment item and bought it anyways because science
also got told about fire trial death loop being flashy and went in anyways despite photosensitivity and learned really quick how to run fire by sound cues not looking at my screen too much
You’re saying one could do fire trail blindfolded?
you can if you get a friend to lead 
probably
I did eden blindfolded once on voice call with Geno and Val and only got krilled 3 times
This.. is.. amazing xD I gotta try it some time
lol amber invite me I wanna witness 
Maybe you can be the voice guide xD
tbh if you ever find me and val together on sky there is a 50% chance we're both passed out and a 50% chance something chaotic is happening
@spark lance (explaining it here) #beta-faq mentions this, but to clarify, it's the shepherd system.
If you are friendly to other players, your bar will increase until it reaches the symbol on the right. Once it's full, you'll se the heart symbol above the heads of new players
as for why it's not in live yet: 
it's like the translator, it's not ready. it's been in beta for over a year now, and it doesn't look like it's going live any time soon
Due to a game bug I was unable to collect the last seasonal heart from the seasonal spirit and now I’m unable to buy the seasonal mask what should I do
There isn't any compensation for lost currency in beta unfortunately. The season has ended, so you can't get it anymore anyways
What about in live game ?
Play the season as usual in Live game and you should be able to get the mask there, provided you have the AP.
@slim kayak Thanks for answering, sorry for the Stupid question

The happened to my live game friend too
contact in-game support for currency issues.
@spark lance just out of curiosity, how did you manage to get into beta now?
@fleet forge if you/your friend is missing currency in Live you can contact Customer Support.
@hollow compass Thank you
blep, they're an android player. androids can join when others leave now
I see. That's...probably not how TGC intended it, but I suppose they can't do anything about that. Google is truly being fickle.
@hollow compass Well I just went to check the beta and it was available for me, so I took advantage and downloaded
yeah... people can do that now
Understandable. You might lose access again soon, though. Just be aware that once the season begins to wrap up in Live there will be access wipes for beta.
yup. access wipes and bugs. currently androids are crashing like crazy, kind of a bad time to join. or a great one, you can send in tons of bug reports now 
yup. access wipes and bugs. currently androids are crashing like crazy, kind of a bad time to join. or a great one, you can send in tons of bug reports now
@slim kayak oooooh..Now I understand
Lol, true.
Do you need any hints on what to do, or are you all up to date with the beta-faq?
I'm reading the beta-faq more carefully, but if I have any questions I ask, thank you
Android can be tolerated if you play alone and you are lucky enough to not merge with anyone.
Android is tolerable if you play alone and you are lucky enough to not merge with anyone.
@tender oasis yes true
you may see changes with the spirit shops in the cape spirits. whatever you do, do not buy the very last nodes.
when someone chirps while you are flying, you will probably crash, just a fair warning
The boring thing is that my chat never works after a while, whether in beta or global
Well, now's your chance to really get to the bottom of that issue with testing and bug reporting. 
Hello everyone, since this is my first season in beta and it finished, how long does it usually take for the new season to arrive??

The new season won't arrive until after they do the access wipe and invite waves! It generally happens around the end of the season in live
Ohh, thank very much !! @fresh quiver
so if I'm correct the Access wipe is for new players to test beta right?
correct me if I'm wrong ;^;
access wipe means all current beta testers have their access to beta updates revoked. invite waves are to invite people to have access to beta updates. invites can be accepted by both old and new players and slots are limited. check #beta-faq
oo okie thanks ^^
Amber's server is cursed
I crashed at least 7 times trying to join 
oof maybe I shouldn’t join yall XD I was thinking about hopping online dangit
I just checked my recordings, it was actually 10 times 
wow
Try to go alone thats fine. I didn't have issue doing it like that. But in your case it's uhmmm not easy. Also hi Crystal
I'm just going to stay at home for now lol, it'll probably be fine if you want to join me
Hi Pakka! 
hmm I think I will hop on and try to do my science experiment 
Hey, what’s the cape that will crash the game now? Isn’t it like the yellow cape or something?
It's the extra capes on yellow, purple, and I think red cape spirits
I bet now people will start requesting for skip button on spirit cutscenes 😂😂
yellow, cyan, purple, red
new bug
in the dark room in eden i got stuck unable to control my skykid and the kid you hug was just like not there. spammed emotes hoping to break the auto walking i was doing and hide n seek merged me with crystal
literally in the dark room together. but ceystal cant see me
Is it just me or is beta crashing a lot
android is crashing like a ridiculous amount

so good news on my science experiment! if you equip the mystery capes from HOME and not eden, it doesn’t register the equip fast enough to permanently lock you out
What about any of the social spaces
though I would assume it’s the same as home
My question is, how do you report something which is in one video but at least 3 bug
😆
send the same video to 3 bug reports 
Or make a copy and crop the video to show the different bugs if that’s how it’s set up 👁️
I can now confirm that equipping one of the capes in orbit locks you out of beta on android as well
(Don't click on my star)
But it can be connected? My bug description would be like : i dont know what happened, here’s the 3 min vid.
Oooof Crystal, see you maybe 
are we going to have new thing in spirit tree based on new slot?
Ummmmm there’s talk around about the next season season of dreams is there any truth in this
any info you get from sources that are not TGC are illigitimate and not to be trusted. prophecy JUST ended in beta and access wipes haven’t even happened yet. we won’t be testing next season for a while
Season of dreams seems to be a fanmade season, people tend to phrase things like it's upcoming and rumors start spreading even if it was just an innocent wishlist idea, if it's not from tgc then it's not canonically coming soon 👁️
Season of dreams? What? Did I miss something?? Hvnt been on Beta for long time now qwq
It's not a real thing, there is no season going on in beta right now, and there has been no information yet about what the next season put up for testing will be
Ooo oki
I dont think there will be any season to Test untill the season in live finished.. cant wait tho

Aw, I knew I forgot to record a bug 
When I died and went to hug the shiny boi in eden, one of my friends was a blue orb next to me. Or maybe it was just a random blue orb who knows. I should have taken pics
Ooh That bug also happened to me omce in live! Forgot to take pic tho

Yes, that's usually how it works anyway. They don't start testing the new season until they do the access wipe and invite new beta testers, which happens once the season is close to ending in live. Some people like to come up with their own ideas for seasons and stuff though, and sometimes those fanmade ideas get spread around and people mistake it for being something really in the game
I also met. It will follow me, I don’t know who the blue light is
When I became golden. Blue light disappeared
Sup
I know Season of Dreams is fanmade, but if it does become real then it's place would be in Vault because it just feels right, y'know?
Darn apostrophe key and enter key being to close to each other...
hey everyone im new here i just joined can someone please explain what this is about
season of dreams cause ya'll need 8hrs of sleep
@spark lance This channel is to discuss the beta version of the game, where new additions to the game are being tested, some of which will be put in the game, some of which won't. Check the pins in this channel (and all channels) for more details
Welcome ChibiKins! 
This is the beta chat, where we chat about beta stuff, so there'll most likely be spoilers!! Main chat for Sky discussion is #general-sky-discussion.
heck, I'm slow
wait season of dreams. thats from nastymold right?
If you're new to the server, I would recommend heading to the general Sky discussion channel, or #seasons-events-chat, #questions-and-help, or #eden-spoilers (if you've already been through Eden) for more topical conversation
wait season of dreams. thats from nastymold right?
Not official. Fanmade, sadly.
i watched that video just last night😆
Yes nastymold made the fanmade video 
A Season of Dreams has been a relatively popular idea on official and other places
it's not official though
@worn birch about your message in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
you cant mention anything from Beta in the Live channels. if there's a huge update and you wanna write a feedback about it, you can put it in #beta-feedback
Mentioning beta content in Live channels might get ya muted
Who else waiting #beta-announcements
@worn birch just a heads up, I removed your post in the wishlist channel because of the whole no-beta-content-in-live-channels rule. Thanks!
I wonder what's with the Traveling Spirit updates 
Is adding a new cape a bug error? For example, the first yellow cape is H3, next one is H9
those seem to be placeholders and equipping them will crash your game
Dont equip the 2nd cape or else, cape is lava.
Season of Lava: All the cosmetics give your Sky kid different ways to crash 
new area: you go back to your homescreen and ponder your life decisions
@worn birch just a heads up, I removed your post in the wishlist channel because of the whole no-beta-content-in-live-channels rule. Thanks!
@hybrid wedge oh ok thanks for letting me know! sorry for breaking the rules.
No worries, thanks for understanding!
Still no message in #beta-announcements ?
idk the paragraph took me a while so I might write it later lol
Damn guys how do I get a beta account I want it soooo badddd
My friend mentioned about upgraded capes or something that costs 150 hearts- is it true?? Im having doubts cause I haven’t checked any news ah
there will be no ad in #beta-announcements ? 
It is only in beta as of now, idek what the 'upgraded' capes do
Someone accidentally sent a screenshot in #looking-for-group-live on it.
#beta-looking-for-group message
Ohh Thank you💗💗
Time to give another kidney in IAPs 😂
Who needs kidneys anyway 
As what I know now, equipping one of those capes will throw you in a crash loop because the game is trying to load something that doesn't exist (i think).
Bruh but fr 150 hearts is too much, it's literally the entire vault heart cost in live
Think it like this: it's like the Floor is Lava bug, but your cape is lava. 
Thye could just keep it the regular cost of the capes 
Remember that not everything in beta makes it to live. These are just placeholders, I think.
Yes we can only hope 
But for not, we can only wait for an update in #beta-announcements.
I just arrived in prairie social place, then I merge, and crash right when someone sit on a table 😂
Sounds report worthy to me.

Will do!
how do i cancel bug reports? i accidentally tapped the live option instead of beta 
nvm i figured it out!
Just tell skybot to shoo 
Don't do that to SkyBot. They're just doing their best. 
So ultimate reward are harder to get now? due to capes upgrades
Remember that not everything in beta makes it to live. These are just placeholders, I think.
bruh I hope they let us get the elder hair at the same costs and add a second ultimate gift for people who buy these ridiculously priced capes
agreed
I was thinking about what will it upgrade to? change star logo? look nicer? or what since it so expensive especially white and black cape need 150 hearts!!!
Getting that 150 heart cape will almost be as tough at completing a constellation from scratch
Also pink cape2 is 120💛
Maybe, it might have a pattern just like or similar to the patterns in early beta! 
Maybe, it might have a patter just like or similar to the patters in early beta!
oh that changes everything, I definitely getting one then
If it only for beta then ok we're safe on live
what are the Ø on the top of new wing buff?
No icon yet?
I’m hoping it’ll be something special for every cape..
White cape with glowy runes
Black cape all torn up
Pink cape with hearts..?
I dunno hahah
what are the Ø on the top of new wing buff?
@floral sand upgraded capes but they havent change the look so they put that
I was like soooo close (8 heart away) from getting forest elder hair in beta... now 
Well what I wish now is~ when will tgc release invisible cape to live? 
I don't think they will. I think it's more of a beta easter egg.
@floral sand upgraded capes but they havent change the look so they put that
@cedar grove but why are there 2 red capes? and when i try to view it on home the game crashed
No, Ø Is literally nothing, don’t try to buy it or you’ll waste your hearts on nothing
It could also be an error like the beta sanctuary ultimates
But don’t count on it, people have already bought it and turned up with nothing
maybe idk still a myth :#
the new capes don't exist in the game. there isn't even code for them, so the game gets confused and crashes
The invisible cape is probably not gonna make it to live, since it exposes a ton of glitches with cape and body interaction
i hav question, does beta have double heart event too?
the new capes don't exist in the game. there isn't even code for them, so the game gets confused and crashes
As I said, Floor is Lava, but your cape is on fire.
Up next: Pants on fire
The invisible cape is probably not gonna make it to live, since it exposes a ton of glitches with cape and body interaction
i see....
hey
Also what happened to the plan to make certain TS items for AP holders only?
@dull cosmos hi! welcome to the server! you're in the beta channel, where we talk about spoilers and things that haven't been released to the full game yet.
head on over to #general-sky-discussion or #cozy-sky-discussion to talk all about sky! #questions-and-help is also a great place to start if you need help with the game. 
Also what happened to the plan to make certain TS items for AP holders only?
@prisma swallow agree but maybe like let those who dont have able to buy the AP for the ts but more expensive than normal AP?
Since many old player complaining about they used AP to get but then it turned ts and it free so i think in charge to get those we have to buy the AP(more exp) to get those ts stuff?
I was thinking make it free for AP users but still cost for normal players. Everyone wins.
And then there are the vets.
It's hard to make both sides of the player base happy when it comes to TS topics.
Will there be “Skip” feature option in the future for Trials already been completed?
Might be ^^^
Bruh like skip the entire trial?
Skip feature? Skip what? The only thing I can think of skipping is the intro.
he mean he wish that there a skip stuff for us after finishing the trial.
That has some player animation and visual changes that isn't walking. I don't think...-
well i dont mind since i only used 50 mins to finish 4 trials at once
Dang, fire trial used to be that long.
what? i only used like 8-10 mins
Is that so? It's much shorter now than it was before. But still. 
piggyback is unkillable oke
Oh nevermind.
Me who has no beta friends.
Fire trial used to take the whole day

I think the Ø on the spirit shop are the capes from the upcoming season. I think the normal spirits are the placeholder for the seasonal spirit 
Would be hilarious if it was 
Maybe, but we dont usually see any seasonal stuff until after access wipes, which won't happen until live season is almost over. But who knows, tgc has used regular spirits to test seasonal cosmetics before
but why the buffs then?
I think it's a bug
It keeps crashing
We haven’t heard from tgc all weekend, we’ll probably hear something about it soon 👁️
Yes, crashes are common in this build.
The capes crash because they don't exist, so the game just goes 
Androids crash because... bugs.
It is me or after the beta updated, it keeps crashing constantly?
Did u guys test star pins?
after beta updated it crash
@empty trail do you have an android phone?
Did u guys test star pins?
too poor to buy so nope
@empty trail do you have an android phone?
@rain delta yes, android phone
We did but only via spells in game
also, I can't tele to my other friend (ios user) but their friend (also ios user) can tele to them
androids are experiencing crashes whenever someone honks while you are flying.
i've also seen crashes from sitting on chat items (but not benches), the bugged capes, tapping on a friend's star who had the cape equipped, and just some random crashes. fun times.
also while typing while flying with your friends
hmm... I haven't experienced that one. I could chat fine 
well this is the season of crashing
season of deam > season of crashing
I'm confusion to TS updates
??
The travelling spirit update is really, like REALLY making me nervous
what updates show me
It just says Travelling Spirit Updates, that's all
Okayy that trigger me alot
We don't know what changed yet, since boogie wasn't any different. We'll get to see the change on the next ts
Where is the news
Yeah, but I'm really nervous...

why?
Idk, like I feel like something will change on TS's
Where is the news
We see it in the changelogs in TestFlight, but they tend to be vague because they go into detail here in the Discord.
tgc always tries their best to cater to all types of players. if the change isn't great, we get to leave feedback on it so they know that the change wouldn't be favored. that's why we test things.
Yep, but even tho it's still not out yet in live... I'm still nervous... And Idk why and what reasons
It is a hacked item. Best not to talk about it here
i deleted it!
they mentioned that they want to decrease the grind with candles. also, this is very early in testing, so it's not going live anytime soon
@spark lance that's not possible, let's not talk about that aw xynth beat me to it
It's sad people decide to do that in beta as it doesn't help TGC test the game 
