#♿│accessibility-discussions

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proud fractal
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Quickly circling back to agree to, I like the "and" inclusion that Elena also brought up last night

eternal rain
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i mean, the category makes sense, this channel is meant to discuss the ideas of improving gameplay for those who are disabled and even offering ways to say complete a quest or do a skill like fishing that improves the quality of gameplay for them

i think overall its up to the mods to consider the name change but also for us to just inform people that this may not be the right channel for their questions, there will always be those people who never bother to read or maybe they are new to discord and they dont know what they are doing so its always nice to just say "hey, you might get your answer better in say #🐣│palia-newbies rather than here"

steady terrace
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also just a funny me thing: constantly misreading it as a verb console as in “consolation” 😂 because the console experience is a bit of a struggle

potent island
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Hi

proud fractal
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I think the mods will be agreeable to discussing a channel name change to help direct some of the traffic to more appropriate channels, so that this channel can stay reserved for accessibility/disability convos. They've been very helpful with some other QoL things for the channels lately.

shy coyote
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Or Accommodations and Accessibility?

proud fractal
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Nice suggestion Minavae! I'm curious what other think about 'accomodations'?

shy coyote
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I figure it gives the "accessibility" context to weed out the stuff that doesn't really apply in this channel

shy coyote
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This is one of the wisest ways to look at it that I've ever seen!

quartz zephyr
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... 👀 I was lowkey lurking / reading through your discussions and there are a couple things worth mentioning!

  • We will be cleaning up the server channels. As moderators, we definitely agree that the channels have gotten away from us - some of these changes will start at the beginning of September! Nothing life-altering, promise... we just took a look at which channels are actually utilized vs. those that aren't.
  • You can absolutely suggest a name-change for this channel. For those of you who are regulars in this space, you are our best bet for what you think would make sense and help this channel as a whole.
    If there's a consensus around a name that makes more sense, feel free to open up a ModMail ticket. You can even say, "Anner sent me," if it feels intimidating. majicare
sinful wraith
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Is anyone having problems launching Palia from Steam?

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Problem solved.

upper iron
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We need an in game way to delete progress, this need to be far more accessible.

tepid ermine
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!feedback

hardy vigilBOT
grizzled musk
upper iron
# grizzled musk what kind of progress would you want to delete?

need to be able to reset our characters without having to reach out to support and wait, I started WAY earlier than my Fiancé and have no clue what i am doing, plus new tutorial stuff was implemented since i started, so i want to restart for the sake of learning and being on par with her.

grizzled musk
upper iron
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i COULD make a new account but why should that be the answer, that seems ridiculous to me

grizzled musk
upper iron
spare schooner
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👍

inland latch
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I'm going through same thing right now cause I have purchases linked to my account but it's been days for them not to respond so far.

But anyway, any thought about bring TTS to Palia? while I'm not blind I still have issues reading paragraphs of text so I normally put TTS on when it comes to having to read in games- everything blurs together whenever I try and read stuff, so it sucks when they don't have it.

tulip spire
hardy vigilBOT
spare schooner
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👀

lilac sun
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Gonna read this whole thread (slowly) but putting in my request for a setting (or mod, etc) that highlights the bugs after the ! shows - and fish once hooked. I struggle post cataract to see em. Not a biggy just a respectful ask. BTW, I am loving the game, just finished Prisimbeard quest and WOW.

tulip spire
# lilac sun Gonna read this whole thread (slowly) but putting in my request for a setting (o...

Hello, and welcome! Just so you know, the devs aren't guaranteed to see your message here, to let them know about it please consider leaving some feedback. Better visible fish and bugs are certainly something many players have asked for.
For the fishes at least, one workaround would be to stand in such a way that there's something between you/the camera and the bobber once the camera is in the fishing minigame view. That turns the bobber bright yellow, and makes it way easier to see.

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!feedback

hardy vigilBOT
spare schooner
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🥲

proud fractal
north mesa
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heads up patch trailer has the usual - flashes from watering, hunting, and a new outfit effect

gritty zinc
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those arrows are flashy, that honestly confirms to me they 1000% don't care a single bit about causing seizures and other photosensitivity reactions

gritty zinc
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@blazing laurel the heart arrows cause flashes that trigger migraines and seizure symptoms. please, please stop putting photosensitivity triggers on sale

tulip spire
hardy vigilBOT
gritty zinc
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I have done that already

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I did that months ago

tulip spire
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Great! Just figured I should let you know in case you don't.

gritty zinc
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ty

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I want everyone to do it so it's a flood of complaints instead of a handful of people

tulip spire
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It's certainly a common request in here.

gritty zinc
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photosensitivity reactions aren't common but they do suck and injure people badly.

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I've seen people talk about seizures and being sent to the hospital because s6 is ignoring it
they had mentioned doing an accessibility audit with minecraft devs but I guess that must have been scrapped

tulip spire
gritty zinc
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sure, that isn't an excuse for them actively adding more flashing things and putting them on sale in the meantime though

tulip spire
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Fair, I agree that many new items are bad with flashing. However, even those the audit likely wouldn't have prevented - deving for them started a while ago, too, and the decision to have them flash was likely made quite a while ago as well.

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(I'm not saying this to say something against you, just trying to say the audit might still help.)

proud fractal
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I also don't think it's entirely fair to make a request that items that aren't useful to some to "not go on sale" or to not add them at all. There's still a fairly large player base audience that would like items like these to go on sale and still be created because they would like to own the items like this. The fairest request is to continue to implore the company to use proper photosensitivity warnings and proper VFX toggles for people like me and maybe you who have health issues triggered by flashing lights. We shouldn't prevent others from enjoying a nice sale or getting new items because of our issues, there's a better compromise somewhere in there than going to the extreme of preventing all from having a fun item.

wind wyvern
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How can I turn off vibration for fishing /hoeing .. it's down to 0 but still vibrating

proud fractal
wind wyvern
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Ps5

proud fractal
wind wyvern
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I tried to change it ... It doesn't let me ?

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It's stuck on high?

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Fixed it

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Thank you x

proud fractal
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Okay good, glad it worked!

gritty zinc
# proud fractal I also don't think it's entirely fair to make a request that items that aren't u...

i personally would be completely okay with pausing all sales if there were people being injured by the items going on sale, with things that I am not impacted by.
I don't want to have them gone for everyone or ruin anything, I want them to add a toggle to turn them off on client side which they've already talked about quite a while ago. and there are so many items that they could choose for going on sale other than the small handful of flashing ones. honestly just from a financial standpoint there are other items that would rake in more money if they were to go on sale, too.

proud fractal
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I don't like to make speculations on what I think the company's financial positions are or are not, but I do agree a VFX toggle not only for weapon skins/outfits but for animations in game would be of huge assistance for many people.

spare schooner
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😄

ashen perch
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hello ! why can I not post a message in the palia-discussions channel ? it gets immediately blocked !

proud fractal
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^^ a mod resolved the above issue for this player

lapis glacier
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hiii so on the loading screen, one of the tips listed mentions a “motion sickness” section in the settings that we can adjust in case we start feeling motion sick. however i seem to be struggling to find it? is that loading screen tip referring to a specifically titled section, or just settings that are related to motion sickness?

proud fractal
lapis glacier
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pc/windows

proud fractal
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I can't remember what it would be titled as in PC settings or what category they put it in, but the above message points to what you could look for in the settings.

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Ah, I see Cel said there isn't a specific setting labeled this, but you can see the other settings you can see on the menus

lapis glacier
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thank yooouuuu

lapis glacier
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thank you tooooo

vagrant pier
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I think it would be cool to see an enlarge HUD feature so being legally blind Instruggle to see the grid map above and I sometimes struggle to see the tool box or inventory bar on the bottom right. Also I think a highlight option to make certain insects easier to see especially green on green

proud fractal
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!feedback is a great place to send that @vagrant pier, many people have requested features like this to assist them in game.

hardy vigilBOT
vagrant pier
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My bad I didn’t see the link

proud fractal
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Yes the feedback form/link goes directly to the dev team, who would best be suited to receive accessibility requests like yours 🙂

reef chasm
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Im wondering if there is something that can make fishing more accessible? Is this the place to post? An issues ove been experiencing playing Palia is fishing causes my Carpal Tunnel to act up very quickly. I have it in both hands unfortunately and its not yet to a point I can have surgery to just fix it. So I suffer pain and numb tingling hands for days and weeks once its triggered. I want to be able to fish and have many I still need to get but its painful having to hold buttons, reel, move another button etc. Its a lot of strain on the hands, fingers, wrist etc. Im also a console user (I cant afford a pc or special mouse), unfortunately there isnt a good controller made for carpal tunnel or arthritic or other hand issues. So already holding the controller puts strain on the wrists/nerve. How can we make fishing more accessible for people? I cant go more than a few min fishing without having tingling start in my hands so I feel like im never gonna catch any of these epic/rare fish i need for accomplishments.

proud fractal
hardy vigilBOT
tender ember
autumn swan
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Does anyone know if the DEVELOPERS can make the text size bigger for visually impaired. Hard to follow the storyline even in a TV (switch) because I have a tough time reading the text! Please HELP! We need MORE ACCESSIBILITY FUNCTIONS! Been playing since the beginning and it is becoming a huge ACCESS ISSUE!

north mesa
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!feedback it's not currently an option for that in game, but hopefully with more people asking (and the ongoing/upcoming accessibility audit) UI and text scaling will get bumped up the priority list

hardy vigilBOT
cursive jacinth
tender ember
vagrant pier
grizzled musk
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UI scaling sliders are a very common request, and something i really hope they implement. everyone deserves to be able to play the game. many people without VIs find the HUD quite crowded as well. it would make the game much better for everyone.

vagrant pier
tender ember
spare schooner
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😄

north mesa
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Patch notes have 2 videos (animation of flower pot placement, watering, and growing plus the new outfit vfx) thay don't autoplay for me and one gift (rotating through new name plates) thay does so they should be sager than usual to read through

tulip spire
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The outfit video is kind of flashy especially at the start, in case anyone is wondering about that.

unique jasper
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New listed known issue is actually an accessibility feature people have been asking for "The yellow highlight on fish may appear even when nothing is blocking your view." 🤦‍♀️

steady terrace
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heres hoping that ‘bug’ happens a lot and the general playerbase enjoys it and asks to keep it majishy

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im so ready for the new actual accessibility feature “New Tool and Emote Accessibility Setting” that opens the selection wheels with a single button press not holding down while selecting proudashura

north mesa
gilded hollow
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anyone knows when will the maintenance finish europe time?

north mesa
worldly crater
smoky snow
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so in 30 minutes

gilded hollow
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thank you

digital lotus
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Can you play? Or is it still down ?

deep wharf
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Still down

static prawn
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They lieeeee

north mesa
digital lotus
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😭

short hound
north mesa
short hound
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It was worth a try 😂😭

north mesa
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the bloom event in kilima is pretty chill - ||watering animation, plants pop into existence, gold particle glow like the purple one groves have, you just water and weed and pick up the plants & pods, it sticks around for awhile and you don't have to water or weed to pick up, despawns slowly last item was gone at 4:50pm in game time, it sounded like people in parties were getting occasional double loot|| without spoilers, the event is relaxed, relative low vfx, and easy

north mesa
gilded lodge
spare schooner
unique jasper
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If you need to change your in-game username, do it in your account at Palia.com

short hound
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No. My name got banned and I’ve been going back and forth with support but they take fooooreveeeeer to respond. I was hoping they can pass along the word. 😂😂

unreal adder
proud fractal
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This isn't the channel to seek further help for this, but if you use the !name command (in a different channel), you will get the instructions for how to change your name on palia.com -- it can take a moment to reflect in game.

hardy vigilBOT
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Maji Market will be running for a week, every four weeks.

The next Maji Market will happen from <t:1756191600:f> until <t:1756710000:f> (time zone local to you).

proud fractal
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Please try to use commands in other channels; this channels is specifically for accessibility discussions.

shell basin
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hey,i've been having issues with the game not starting after the update,can i ask here?

shell basin
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thank you,just wanted to be sure o(^▽^)┛

grizzled musk
amber pond
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are there any options I can set so I can see the orange mist when it is on a blue backdrop (the sky) I am colour blind and cannot see anything obvious in the settings

north mesa
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There are color blindness filters in calibrate screen

scenic palm
modest tusk
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hello i am try to link my steam and it not working

tulip spire
proud fractal
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Here is a visual of the new fishing "bug," in case anyone was curious

tulip spire
dull mural
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gfyggdddsg ffn

hasty berry
slender scroll
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Or a cat

hasty berry
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i m waiting for her reaction when she gonna see all those messages... hope there's nothing bad in behind😂

amber pebble
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Are there settings for sight impaired people for fishing? I’m having a bit of a hard time

eternal rain
# amber pebble Are there settings for sight impaired people for fishing? I’m having a bit of a ...

no not really, as far as im aware, there are no in game settings you can change that can help with fishing, though there are workarounds

the fishing bobber can be changed by buying any of them from einar's guild store, though this will mean you need to level up to level 10 to have access to his guild store in the first place

you can position yourself behind a wall in a way that once you start reeling in, it will obstruct your vision, to counteract that, the game highlights the fish in yellow to help you see it along with the usual brackets as shown here #♿│accessibility-discussions message

eternal skiff
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What do we think about this? I'm both happy that there's this warning but I still wonder, maybe it's the phrasing?

floral skiff
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Does anyone has the purple floatfish to trade?

eternal skiff
jolly halo
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will upping the "effects" and "emitter spawn rate scale" help me see the bloom event aura thing from further away or is it a different setting?

proud fractal
jolly halo
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ah okay, thanks for the reply

sand badger
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I'm unable to do the Piksii bounce minigame due to motor function disability, and being unable to grow them from seeds from existing plants means I have to request the plant from other players.

proud fractal
hardy vigilBOT
grizzled musk
sharp fjord
tender ember
tulip spire
north mesa
eternal skiff
# grizzled musk what do you wonder about the phrasing?

@tender ember sorry lol after rereading my msg it's super unclear, brainforg really one hell of a state. i wanted to know if it sounded fine to everyone and not "if u get hurt it's on you" ish. I personally don't think so but I dont trust my judgement on its own, since I don't have epilepsy.

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I dont even think one needs to be epileptic to want to know their thoughts on it I'm just interested to know what the best way of phrasing things like this is

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if that makes sense dfdfg

grizzled musk
eternal skiff
proud fractal
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also, i can't remember if this ever comes up again besides when you first play the game.

eternal skiff
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Pinhole glasses!!!

grizzled musk
proud fractal
tender ember
grizzled musk
# eternal skiff Pinhole glasses!!!

ah these. i don’t personally find them useful, but it’s neat they exist. my epilepsy is early adult onset, so if cover one eye is primarily used for children, that’s probably why i never got recommended it.

eternal skiff
grizzled musk
carmine nymph
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So the Bloom uses a recolored Grove particle effect, right? Is that why it's hard to see, since Grove happens at night and would be tougher to see in daylight?

tender ember
proud fractal
# carmine nymph So the Bloom uses a recolored Grove particle effect, right? Is that why it's har...

They're going to have to recolor on the S6 side, I don't think our available settings can make it better to see (i tried a lot, couldn't get it to work for me); I cannot see the haze at all unless I am either right up on it and can see it just before getting under it; and then it disappears entirely when you're right under it. it's barely visible from afar as well. It needs to be much denser and a different color that doesn't blend in so well with the surroundings.

sinful radish
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Where do we vote for the plushy?

tender ember
sinful radish
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Sorry, thank you

tender ember
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No worries love!

tulip spire
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Is that still an open issue?

carmine nymph
tender ember
north mesa
tender ember
north mesa
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I was on server with someone in every location and the person at the location it was going to spawn at couldn't see the glow, but I could just across the river from it until I went a little further away or when I ran into it

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there's been asks for the purple/pink flow grove glow to be visible from further away since it was added too, but that has more contrast, the glow of the tree trunks, and an audio cue to go with it so it's easier to see than the kilima flower grove

tender ember
north mesa
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it does not have the directional audio cue that can be heard from half the map so that you know where to go though

proud fractal
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I have never heard the audio associated with the bloom event! It would be much better if it was directional audio and you could hear it across the map.

carmine nymph
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Wait there is audio for Grove? This is why you don't play games on mute, people! Lol

north mesa
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almost everything has audio cues! (which is weird that the bloom event doesn't have one like that)

  • every foragable has a different sound
  • star quality bugs
  • spooked bugs
  • piksii blossom bounce starting soon if you're in the deep woods
  • grove spawned - this one is directional and covers about half the map
  • count down to start of the market games if you're near them
  • street lights that lead to elderwood central stables
carmine nymph
steady terrace
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wait wow how far away does the grove audio travel? i dont think i’ve ever recognized it until im right there at the trees

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i always rely on the chat callouts or running around until i see it, for the new flowers event too, i agree the sky effect should have more contrast

tender ember
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Never noticed street lights in Elderwood either

proud fractal
grizzled musk
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actually, there’s a spot you can hear it wherever it spawns except for two locations (which narrows down where it is.) i used it as an exercise in trying to hear directional noise since i only have one ear that kinda works ashuralaugh

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(deaf and hoh)

steady terrace
grizzled musk
steady terrace
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i get disoriented a lot on the maps even with the compass chapaasad i do wish there was a minimap but i heard the devs dont want to

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and it’s very slow to check the big map on switch

grizzled musk
steady terrace
carmine nymph
# grizzled musk (deaf and hoh)

Are you deaf or Deaf? /genq
I love Deaf culture and am working to get ASL certified so I would love to know if you have any suggestions about anything! 💜

lapis cargo
lapis cargo
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id be screwed in the pirate age

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Be more lost then zoro in one piece anime

safe harbor
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All I want is to have the ability to rebind the camera key off of K. I've submitted a fair amount of tickets for the past 3 years or so with no response. Is there ANY way I can get in contact with someone to help make this happen...

tulip spire
hardy vigilBOT
safe harbor
tulip spire
safe harbor
tulip spire
junior halo
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Help guys… I got three issues… digging up the treasure in the elderwood pirate card quest… and the second one… I can’t craft relicts because I already bought some, so it says that I already crafted them. And the last issue is that I can’t put the last gifs from studio 6 in my inventory, no matter I empty it or not…

proud fractal
junior halo
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Im Sorry, I was just a little panicking. Thank you for the help!

slate shadow
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Greetings. Is there a way to fertilize your field as a whole? Or at least partly? 8100 clicks are killing my wrist. 😄

proud fractal
hardy vigilBOT
torpid cedar
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When fishing on PC, the fish are highlighted yellow for easy visibility. On Switch, this doesn't happen unless a wall or opaque object blocks the view. Switch should have the yellow highlight the entire time just like PC.

proud fractal
proud fractal
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Please head over to Tech Help. This channel is for accessibility and disability discussions.

grizzled musk
torpid cedar
inner torrent
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Hello! I am new here. I am a person of disability and accessability issues and have noticed some things in the game that make it difficult to play. Is this the right channel to bring up the topic?

tulip spire
hardy vigilBOT
tulip spire
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That might be handy info for the folks over in #💻│tech-help , it's not really related to disabilities or accessibility :-)

inner torrent
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Here are some issues I am having in terms of color blindness and vision issues:
I have an issue with my vision, and there are somethings that would greatly benefit me (and others who also have issues with their vision). A mode where you can change the colors for color blindness would be amazing. I also cannot see the bugs that well. The shiny ones are fine, but the regular ones, if I can see them and they move, I can not find them due to them blending in too well. Maybe the color blind mode to make them stand out from the green grass so I can see them? I also have a hard time seeing things in the elderwoods, I have the brightness set up high and I still cannot see what is in front of me most of the time due to how dark it is.

I am not a developer or have any knowledge of that scope. I do apologize if this is a known issue or something that it is not a feasible issue to fix. Just wanted to bring to ya'lls attention. I do love the game, I know it is in beta, and thank you for what you do ❤️

surreal summit
tulip spire
inner torrent
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yeah I have it on, it kinda helps but not all the way. ok I will post there as well! Thank you ❤️

tulip spire
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You're welcome! There unfortunately aren't many options.
I just remembered, once again I don't have much experience with it but the bugs at least in theory make a sound. Obviously it's not perfect for finding them, but maybe that helps? (Once again no personal experience, my sound is switched off.)

noble orbit
warped kite
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Is there an option to turn off the outfit/costume sound effects?
I noticed some of the outfits have sparkly twinkly or whirring sound effects and it bothers me so much sensory-wise

warped kite
north mesa
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Supposedly in the works through, just no eta

warped kite
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oh! okay

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in that case- I was going to send palia a message about some accessibility suggestions I have
can someone help me determine if these are in the works at the moment? Im new to the game so idk where to find if some stuff is in the works or not

proud fractal
warped kite
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oh okay!!

proud fractal
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!feedback link below

hardy vigilBOT
warped kite
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then I shall go ahead and do the thing ty!!

tender ember
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Something I've realised would be helpful today, when im watering a lot of things my finger gets tired holding the trigger, would be good to have an option to tap once to start & tap to stop. Powerwash simulator does this

north mesa
# proud fractal You can always send in your feedback even if it's in the works, it's important t...

yeah it was a specific dev who said it was on their list, shouldn't be terribly hard, and was starting on it back in may (#♿│accessibility-discussions message) so it might have been forced into proper prioritization procedures and pushed to the back burner. or it could be in the next update - who knows! but sending in feedback should (if they're operating that way) help show it has value to the player base.

shy coyote
shy coyote
oak sluice
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Hey can I ask is there any way to add a prompt or reminder of the timed events in each map I know I have the sound but maybe a option to add a pop up reminder or something so I can get places on time I really struggling to remember where to be when and with so many events now I'm getting a bit overwhelmed

heady merlin
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Hello! I think it’d be a good idea to have an option when fishing to keep the fish highlighted yellow as it’s sooo much easier to see! TIA ❤️

torpid cedar
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!feedback

hardy vigilBOT
tulip spire
grizzled musk
grizzled musk
# oak sluice Hey can I ask is there any way to add a prompt or reminder of the timed events i...

i’m glad they made the bloom during the day — having maji market, grove, and piksii bounce all at night is a LOT.

i find i have to use outside timers on my phone to keep track of when events are if i really want to get to them. they have the in-game sun/moon “clock” in addition to the actual time in the upper right, but i don’t find it particularly intuitive and it’s pretty out of the way. the audio cues for both the time changes and events aren’t super helpful if i’m not specifically listening for them because, well, kinda hard when you only have one working ear and it doesn’t hear too well ashuralaugh and i need the phone timers to know when to listen for them! some options to alter the HUD would definitely help people who struggle with time/goal management, audio cues, are simply overwhelmed by the amount of events, and many other cases muujinnodders

carmine nymph
# carmine nymph

Sorry to forward this, but I really am curious! @grizzled musk

grizzled musk
carmine nymph
grizzled musk
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yeah, not going to lie, i have no idea what the certification process is cos it's my first language 😅

carmine nymph
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Yeah I have been doing some online courses and plan to enroll at my local college for the ITP there next year!

carmine nymph
molten swift
carmine nymph
molten swift
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Yeah it would be a good qol to just list them all in one place and show you what is coming up next and list both game and irl times so you don't have to wonder or try to figure out how many irl minutes until the event etc.

noble orbit
hardy vigilBOT
molten swift
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I hope this doesn't come off harsh or personal because I don't mean for it to, genuinely (hence why I didn't make this a reply or tag anyone). I'm getting frustrated with the frequency this command is used here in this channel. I appreciate that a lot of people here want a lot of feedback pushed to the devs officially, but I am feeling like every other topic gets tagged with the link and often with few other comments between links. Lately especially it feels to me more like it shuts down discussion. I know that's not the intent and that pulling the command is intended to generate more dev feedback and ideally better action from the devs, but as an alpha tester, pretty regular lurker in this channel and semi-frequent participant, it feels similar to the days when we fought to get this channel reinstated and the bot kept telling us very frequently that none of the devs read the channel.

I think the feedback command is an important one and I am glad it exists and is used. I don't expect anyone here to check a person's roles or join date or post history or scroll up in chat to see last link before using the command. I do wonder though if putting some cooldowns on the bot command could help.

Does anyone share this sentiment? If so I'm happy to put in a modmail request or something but I am genuinely curious if it's just me feeling this way because if so I'll drop the subject.

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I definitely see your point, I think for me I use the command cause some people don't know that writing in here doesn't count as actual feedback, even if the channel is only called "discussions".
But I definitely understand your sentiment, sometimes we just want to discuss something and hear others input or complain and get a bit of reassurance or whatever.

Not sure if a bot cooldown would be a solution, I think you (and maybe others in the future) pointing it out is going to change the frequency of use already. At least for me personally.

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# molten swift I hope this doesn't come off harsh or personal because I don't mean for it to, g...

Personally, no, I don't share this sentiment. Plenty of discussion happens here, but the only formal pathway we have as players to get our accessibility needs heard is by using the formal communication pathways that S6 uses. Lacie does an excellent job as a Community Manager and she notes highly requested items directly to them dev team. Accessibility needs are not highly requested, though they do have some good frequency of requests. We have seen time and time again this past 12+ months that the number of reports sent in for feedback/requests/opinions influences what gets prioritized and what doesn't. Encouraging people to send in their opinions via the formal communication pathway doesn't shut down conversation at all to me, most people tend to discuss a bit after they post their initial opinion, but some people don't want to discuss and do want to know their feedback for accessibility is going somewhere.

I don't agree that "the devs don't read feedback." There are some things that I personally and a few other players pushed really hard for over the summer that we got to see get fixed in July and August. And we know for a fact that the opinions/thoughts/concerns here, prior to Lacie being on boarded earlier this summer/late spring, were not getting read here, in the discord. We also know that the feedback from the bug reports and feedback form does get sent to S6, because the number of reports influences the public bulletin board for issues to be addressed by S6. We also have some information to suggest that number of reports determines at least a piece of S6's priority method for addressing issues.

I think it would be a negative action to limit how the feedback command could be used. Most people here, we've discussed these issues ad nauseam, but almost everyone here is very willing to have discussion on the topic when the poster is actively engaging/wanting information.

We've also been trying to keep this channel "cleaner" for the last several months because it became a dumping ground for users to ask non-related questions (we direct them to the right channel), and to use commands for other items (like Maji market, quest issues). Most of those users aren't looking for discussion, they just needed to be directed to the right channel.

What would look best to you, Vox? Do you want the regular users in the channel to actively engage one-time/first-time posters in discussion about their feedback? For me personally, I don't do that unless the person is asking for information. But it seems like you perceive a lack of engagement essentially, so how can that be remedied?

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I hear you, which is why we push for first time posters with feedback to use the formal communication pathway.

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right I fully understand that, my above clarification was specifically to the part of your message where you said

I don't agree that "the devs don't read feedback."

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I do think that there's probably a correlation between the title of this channel and how often we get messages here that don't follow the intent of the channel. I think probably a combination of some clarification for the channel title as I've seen discussed a few times and possibly a minimum number of messages between calling the bot command could probably help with the frequency of use. Or maybe if the title can be addressed in a way that makes unrelated messages less frequent then that would solve it entirely (from my perspective - I get not everyone thinks there's something to solve)

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There's an ongoing mod conversation about the title change for the channel, thankfully.

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We do think that will help direct the traffic a bit better.

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oh good, I can't always read this channel thoroughly but I knew there was at least significant discussion on that topic here recently

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A lot, a lot, of the feedback linking is from "where's the setting for? what's the eta on? devs can we get? how do I not get hurt? where is common accessibility thing? - sorry that's not a thing, help us ask for it/get it prioritized" situations

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and it might just be the way my brain works that feels like mid-convo feedback link implies "stop talking here and put it in this form" but the frequency of the command is really just doing that to my brain

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I think I get it we kind of get the same thing happening in the issue discussion channel where we are so quick to offer solutions or refer to them support that we forget some just want to vent and discuss the issue.

I agree with Rosalva that trying to engage first before referring to feedback can be helpful.

I think it's a mindfulness issue than a slowdown needed issue

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that definitely can be the reaction and I've noticed a shift from just dropping the command alone, to replying at the same time so it's not a dismissal

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It makes perfect sense how you could perceive it that way, for sure. I personally feel like many, if not all, of the regular contributors here engage in convo when it seems/feels appropriate with the poster about their accessibility needs. To my observation, most folks just want to know their feedback is going somewhere, very few are interested in continuing the discussion onward with other players. Some do, though!

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a chunk are also flybys that would be better suited to a forum rather than live chat (insert rant about discord being gated, obfuscated, too high velocity, and not properly accessible via search engine and about the lack of proper game and support forums these days here) since they come back hours or days later to see the reply and answer the questions asked

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Would trying to write messages with the feedback command (such as "!feedback would be the best place to let the devs know, since they don't always read it here. I don't think there's a setting for that, but if you're interested in workarounds, you can try x."), help with not feeling like the feedback command is a "shut down please"?

molten swift
# proud fractal It makes perfect sense how you could perceive it that way, for sure. I personall...

yeah I have seen that too, and it could be that I'm just not catching more subtle changes in trends because I'm not as active here as I used to be (I was an alpha tester and fought in the tester chats, surveys, etc until I burned out), but I do try to keep up with this channel and it's just bringing back some of those feelings like I mentioned many people here had maybe 2 years ago now when we had the old bot message and it was posted a ton.

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there's also the old standbys of "just scroll of up 2 messages" and "did you read the pins" and "there's a thread for that" that could answer a third to a half of the messages, but people aren't getting that kind of dismissal here (even when that would have gotten them a faster and sometimes more detailed answer)

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# tulip spire Would trying to write messages with the feedback command (such as "!feedback wou...

I mean whatever "solution" implemented, to be effective in a discord format, would need to not rely on a user here knowing an unspoken etiquette, or know who is new and who is a lurker or an older user poking their head up etc. I like your suggestion but I don't feel it's reasonable to expect every user here to know to do that etc. and frankly we're talking to a lot of people who have varying concerns and some people just aren't going to have spoons to do more than pull the command and I do get that. Some of what I'm feeling is possibly unavoidable in that regard.

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I don't take any of it personally, I know the main reasons most of us here use the command... but at the same time it can be hard for that not to feel like a redirect rather than "also this"

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yeah, discord is the wrong tool/format and most of the regulars here are spoonies. Competing access needs are a pita

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truly

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ok well knowing that the mods are actively discussing the title and the issue of so many unrelated messages here, I'll just wait and watch how that goes. It very well could be that adjustments there could make a huge difference.

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I appreciate this conversation, I hope I didn't upset anyone.

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Last draft of the channel description from earlier:

Discussions, tips, and requests regarding accessibility for players with physical, neurological, or other disability or access needs.

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Thinking about the recent discussion as well, I would amend it to:

Discussions regarding accessibility for players with physical, neurological, or other disability or access needs. This channel is for questions and tips from fellow players; to submit requests to the developers visit https://palia.info/feedback.

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Most recent suggestion for the channel name is accommodations-and-accessibility which tbh I don't love because it makes sense to people who are looking for the right channel but I honestly don't think it's any clearer to people outside the community, especially non-native speakers (but not limited to those), who are looking for the wrong channel.

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So I think disability-and-accessibility is still our top candidate as far as balancing the need to convey that we're talking about "accessibility for disability and other stuff like that" (not "i can't access my account" or w/e) against the desire to respect that not all accessibility needs are related to disabilities because there's also age, neurotype, height/hand size, etc. etc.

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haha, what timing

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Just popping in to say we've seen the chat and are taking notes

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# fleet ledge So I think `disability-and-accessibility` is still our top candidate as far as b...

If everyones absolutely adamant on changing it (i still think the current name is fine) i would say accessibility-and-disability rather than the other way, just because when channel names are long, it can cut off the end & disability first might turn people away from using this channel if they dont identify as disabled because accessibility is not & should not be exclusive to just disabled people.

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But personally i still think the current name is fine & regardless of change the same people will still come in & get things wrong because theyre not reading the title or descriptions to begin with. Just my polite opinion.

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I think that's only partly true. My experience in IT Comms suggests that there are some people who will read all the instructions carefully, some people who are totally immune to instructions, and some who aren't being particularly attentive but you can get through to them if you do it just right.

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But I also don't want to make a change if a few of us are vocally for it and a bunch are secretly against. Can we get one of the mods to set up a formal poll? I don't seem to have permission, and I think it's more effective and eye-catching than the informal emoji reaction workaround.

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For the channel description, it may not make much difference (I think it doesn't even show up by default on mobile) but I've heard no other objections to changing it and I think we've taken everybody's feedback so far into account (before the part I just added.) So that's relatively straightforward.

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With regards to the channel name, I'd like to know who thinks

  • we should keep the current name
  • we should change the name to #accessibility-and-disability
  • we should change it to something else
    and a poll to that effect would be helpful.
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I don't have any suggestions for names... however, i agree with the fact that 'accessibility' being first in the name would be best. Since, like mentioned previously, accessibility is helpful and important all-around, for everybody.

I also personally thought the channel name was fine-- but I haven't really been around lately, so not sure if things have happened that has resulted in ppl feeling the name needed changed.

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I know in the past a few folks would pop in here asking questions that were not exactly, 'on topic', but it wasn't too often. Not sure if it's been more frequent now. kitsuuthink

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# warm grove I know in the past a few folks would pop in here asking questions that were not ...

My interpretation is that it's not so much a matter of the frequency changing as different interpretations of what counts as "too often". Some people only hop into the channel once a month with a specific question, or to get a take on the patch notes, etc., and are at most skimming the history before that, so it's not a big deal. On the other hand, back when I was checking for unread messages, like, hourly, the off-topic ones felt a lot more annoying.

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feels like there's a "I cannot access palia/location/npc/feature/discord channel" once or twice a week - with the occasional influx of like 10 people in one day doing that

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did

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did s6 add more fireworks explosions to the market???

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WHY

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omfg they're literally strobing now the entire screen when they go off
WHY WOULD THEY PURPOSELY MAKE SEIZURE TRIGGERS WORSE??? like, that change would have needed someone to actively change something and make it brighter, more flashy, more frequent???

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Hello does anyone have a referral code I can use for my account

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but yeah like
i'd sort of memorised when fireworks would go off at the market so i could turn my camera away
but now with the changfes, the entire screen strobes flashing changing colours, no matter where you're facing
THAT IS SO DANGEROUS

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they 1000% did not do any kind of accessibility consult at all with minecraft devs, i'm absolutely positive now

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and they don't read feedback or care

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Someone probably did the drum puzzle and set off the finale fireworks for that puzzle, it's not new.

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Would QOL-accessibility-disability work? The acronym at the beginning might be enough to deter a lot of the off topic we've been getting while still showing most if not all of the word accessibility. Idk if enough people will know the acronym especially with language barriers so I can't say I think it's a solid fix, but accessibility and quality of life overlap a lot.

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I also think having the feedback instruction channel under its own category simply titled "feedback" and having the other channels under some other category like "issues discussions" might help also. And a channel dedicated to discord problems or suggestions like there used to be iirc. I know it might feel like bloat but imo that would help with the people who do read and try to find the right place.

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rest assured, we are taking note of everything said here chapaasalute we welcome your continued input, and thank you for having this discussion!

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You're welcome!

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Hello all does anyone know a trick for fishing for people with poor eye sight

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also it requires fishing level 10 but if you unlock the fishing guild store there is a lantern bobber that glows

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and i would suggest to fish during daytime, maybe cut down nearby trees if they cast shadows on your fishing area

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steady terrace
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urgh… i havent gotten it myself and night fishing is difficult

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So I know can get Silk from catching bugs but does anyone else feel that maybe like the Cotton plants in Palia that having maybe a silk plant would be helpful besides catching bugs to get Silk????

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# inland folio This might sound idiotic, excuse me if it does, but would changing your gamma se...

i already have my gamma settings changed and a bunch of things in nvidia
flashing is to do with a fast large change in lumens, and the larger it is in someone's field of vision, the worse it is (i play on windowed and have brightness turned way down). so, dispel arrows hurt at a distance but are very painful when they're close up because they're a larger flash. low fps can cause this too, though.
with sticky smoke bombs, that can be really bad because there's often a lot of them being spammed, and sticky ones cause a flash.
the maji market strobing lights are both rapidly changing colours, and very bright flashing that takes up the entire screen, so i get some seizure-like symptoms from the condition i have and it was REALLY bad from that. even with all the customising i've done. it'd definitely have been way worse with the default settings, but still very bad.
the more times it flashes, the worse, and speed (3+ per second is considered dangerous for seizures, but just once can set off reactions too) it's also rapidly changing colours or vivid patterns.

tldr with the way the game is currently designed, the only way people with any kind of photosensitivity to be safe is to avoid playing the game

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# gritty zinc i already have my gamma settings changed and a bunch of things in nvidia flashi...

I appreciate you taking the time to explain all this to me. Thats so difficult, and I am sorry you (and others) have to deal with that! I have noticed that more people have been setting off the drum fireworks lately, and with that being unpredictable, it's hard to prepare. I can relate, only in the sense that someone living near me sets off mortars randomly, usually when Im home alone, and it triggers my startle response.

There is a game I used to play that dimmed down their colors and flashing in a setting for people, so I know it can be done. Hopefully they can do something similar for Palia. Is there any way I can help get the word out for them to listen?

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Sending in feedback through our formal communication avenues to S6 is the formal way to get our opinions heard. This is a player to player discord and the Devs rarely check in here. The Community Manager does a great job at documenting highly requested needs/issues, but often access needs may not make the "cut" into prioritization, so to speak. S6 has stated they're working on an accessibility audit with Microsoft (IIRC), so it'll be interesting to see the results of that audit and S6's gameplan to address common needs for accessibility and disability.

As a player, we can voice our opinions and needs formally through the avenue available to us, and discuss with others as well. Using the formal avenues is the best way (that we know of) to make sure your needs/opinions go directly to the Dev team.

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# tender ember Fyi, in the original discussion, i and a couple others were not for the change o...

I think we're talking about two different things - I heard no earnest objections (beyond "meh, I wouldn't bother") to changing the channel description, the part that currently says "A channel where players can gather to discuss accessibility in Palia" (which is pretty much already covered by it being a channel on the Palia Discord server named "accessibility discussions".) Your objection to changing the actual name of the channel is clear.

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Unfortunately, "I think the current name is fine" is ambiguous. That could mean "I think the current name is preferable to making any changes," as in your case, or it could mean "it doesn't bother me but other possibilities also wouldn't bother me."

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When the mods do arrange for more formal community input, I hope they phrase it as a choice between "we should change the name/we should not change it" (with other options, possibly including "i don't care much either way") rather than "we should change it/it's fine", which doesn't IMO tell us what we need to know.

fleet ledge
# molten swift I also think having the feedback instruction channel under its own category simp...

I'm not in favor of an entire channel for "feedback instructions"; I agree with those who've said the large number of channels is already confusing. The "server guide" could be reworked to start with "what channel am I looking for?" and then branch out into instructions for how to use each channel, with frequently used commands and suchlike appearing later in the guide. A post saying "for X type of feedback, go to Y" that could be linked where necessary (possibly with a bot command) seems better to me.

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# inland folio I appreciate you taking the time to explain all this to me. Thats so difficult,...

thank you, yeah i understand the startle response things definitely and sorry you have to deal with that, that sounds terrible
if you would send feedback, i would really appreciate it. and ask anyone you know to as well.
i know the flashing of that, and firework arrows, dispel, smoke bombs, animated outfits all do tend to cause sensory overwhelm and pain for a lot of people, even folks that don't have any photosensitivity normally

so if you do know anyone with those issues, it'd be great to ask them to send feedback too.
for folks that have photosensitivity it's a physical safety issue, but it's so rare that like,
if it's only us reporting it, it seems like s6 isn't gonna listen or prioritise it at all ;-;

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for naming the channel, it depends what s6 wants with it i guess
i don't think it's a good idea to add qol to it. people with disabilities already tend to get drowned out by folks coming in and asking about unrelated issues frequently. qol would be an avalanche
accessibility convos are not the same thing as qol convos

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Oh, I see. That could work.

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I'm in favour of "disabilities" being the first word so when it's a short space on phone it will still show. something like #disability-settings maybe?
so it doesn't seem multipurpose
a lot of people seem to not understand what accessibility is

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it's kind of irritating when I see comments that need attention from folks with low vision or seizures and they get buried by folks asking like how to find their friend referrals or where to find different in game resources etc

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Everything is so small, I can barely read or see things, even with my glasses on

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good

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# fleet ledge Unfortunately, "I think the current name is fine" is ambiguous. That could mean ...

My objections were stated in the original discussion if you want to go back to look, i was purely clarifying as it was stated that whomever said it had said they hadnt seen any objections to the name change. I also spoke about in agreement at the time that the description could use some work yes. I dont really want to churn this over yet again and repeat. This response feels a bit negative from your end tbh. 😕

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Side note (generally not person specific) : as much as this channel is necessary , over the last month or so im seeing a fair bit of toxicity esp in responses to people even people who mistakenly post in here AND people who are correct & get dismissive. Its a real shame & it puts me off using this space.

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does anyone happen to know anything i could tweak in settings to be better for color blindness? i can’t tell shades of green apart so i struggle with foraging sometimes

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It would be nice if there was a voice-to-text option in chat for steamdeck players

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I had to use a bluetooth keyboard for typing on Switch. Typing on Steam Deck is even more difficult! (No predictive text)

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# tender ember Side note (generally not person specific) : as much as this channel is *necessar...

Yeah, though I'd call it more exasperation of the sort that crops up in every p2p support or discussion space rather than toxic (to me there's some more intent in that or meanness). That whole "the regulars have answered this question 10k with 100 of thay being today" thing vs "I just need some quick help" from folks who don't hang in the space. It generally leads to wikis and automated replies for all faqs that rarely get read as a resolution when exasperation turns to frustration that boils over, sometimes rule overhauls too.

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Hey guys, question, has an S6 member ever checked in with this channel since January 23rd of this year, or are they back to not interacting with this channel and not reading feedback?

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i guess the dev team don't like to be told off

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No dev really checks in on the discord except to possibly address some server-breaking issues or to offer clarification directly. Lacie, the CM, checks all channels regularly and notes important feedback and items. Though she doesn't posted in here frequently, we know she does read the channels regularly and takes feedback to the dev team.

Our formal communication method of using tickets is the best way (that we know of) to share feedback directly to S6 Dev team.

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And to clarify, no one here is "telling the devs off," as that's inappropriate to do.

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The only reason why I ask is because I have a friend that's fairly upset I'm back on Palia despite the issues surrounding the old snowball bug, lighting issues, etc. We had a conversation about it and they pointed out I was "as hypocritical as the team." Made me contemplate and look at the bigger picture. But if they are regularly taking feedback via the feedback and support links like I thought they have been, I guess that needs to be another separate conversation.

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I think you're allowed to play whatever games you'd like, Soup, despite what your friend feels. I have neurological disorders personally, and I still play this game, despite the lack of ability to turn off photosensitivity triggers in the game. I make an adjustment for my personal needs when I have to, because I get genuine joy out of this game.

If you want to play Palia, play Palia in the ways that works for you. I, personally, wouldn't let someone else's emotions dictate what I chose to play for my own joy, but understand how that can feel upsetting to hear from your friend.

In their roadmap post, S6 stated they are undergoing an accessibility audit with Microsoft. What that entails or when it will be available, we don't know yet.

north mesa
# timber seal Hey guys, question, has an S6 member ever checked in with this channel since Jan...

Yes, this is when lacie let us know she does check in here #♿│accessibility-discussions message -though sheer volume of the server generally and the 24/7 nature of it does mean she won't catch everything as tbay simply isn't possible.

Also, there had been an accessibility related section in the patch notes the last few patch notes and here's the audit info

https://palia.com/news/palia-path-roadmap-summer-2025

We’ve teamed up with the Microsoft Gaming Accessibility Testing Service to run a deep-dive audit of Palia. Their mission: spotlight the most pressing accessibility gaps, map out a clear workflow for our development team to address, and guide us toward adding features that truly move the needle for players. The first wave of fixes ships with the Radiance Rising update, with even more improvements queued up for the patches that follow.

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Hey folks! While we are still talking things through on our end, we thought shifting #♿│accessibility-discussions out of the feedback category and into the discussions category might help alleviate some of the issues we've been having. Of course people are still not going to read the blurb, but hopefully this will help!

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# timber seal The only reason why I ask is because I have a friend that's fairly upset I'm bac...

As someone who is still very much upset/frustrated over how S6 handled the snowball bug, along with the constant accessibility concerns... you're not hypocritical or anything else. You can play whatever game that gives you comfort and joy, etc. I can understand wanting to look at the bigger picture, but it honestly does come down to: Are you enjoying your time and having comfort w/ said game? If yes, then that is what's important. chapaalove

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And re: in regards to changing the channel name.

I've been trying to figure out how to word my thoughts on it. I know someone above mentioned just sayign "I thought it was fine" is still a grey area, and I can understand how it can be perceived that way, so I'll try to make it a bit more clear.

Changing the name, I personally don't think is needed. If others do want to, sure. However, I don't personally think adding the word 'disability' is needed or should be added-- only because, it might influence some folks from talking here, who may not have a disability (or are not diagnosed with one).

Accessibility is something that affects everybody, and is overall important. Some things that a lot of folks want, or need, are not always something that only people with disability needs. (Example: Brightness Sliders, UI Sliders, Font changes, etc) I know that changing the name to it, doesn't mean only ppl who have disabilities can chat here, however, like I said, it might influence other people from giving their input, suggestions, or overall chats here in those regards.

(Not to mention, folks in the past in pal-gen and the like, have tried to push accessibility chats here instead, even if it was mentioned... i'd be concerned if it'd happen more frequent if it got changed... it isnt a great feeling.)

That's my main concern when it comes to that. Sorry for wall of text, and hopefully that makes sense. chapyattasigh

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Thanks everyone. sorry for airing personal drama, but as someone that deeply cares about anyone and everyone being able to game safely, my ex-friend's comment made me pretty bummed out and made me feel like I don't stick to my word. But I do understand that I'm not hurting anyone by playing. I'm still going to enjoy the game as I have been chapaathumbsup and I appreciate all of the perspectives!

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I'm glad we can all still advocate for better accessibility while simultaneously still being able to play a game we all love and care about.

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Still hoping for an ingame notepad or tracker or something, I can't remember stuff 😅 whenever I'm playing I got the wiki open on a second screen, discord help chat on my phone and a notebook to write notes (which have become a mess and I lost a lot of them 👀 )

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Voice chat would be nice for communities or parties. Especially those on console where it takes them forever to type a simple message. Although, I am a PC player most of my friends are console.

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And then they could have collectable page themes like the nameplates YayChapaa

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i need a thing for ew where it has day lighting all day, it would help my migraines so much

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Looks good, though I would mainly want somewhere to write and a checklist. Like if I go foraging/hunting/fishing/mining, that I can make a list of what to get and have it on my screen like a quest. Or write a short text of who I want to talk to and what to gift them

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The library could use some handbooks/guidebooks though 🤔 like, one book for crops (how much space they take, time to grow, what they're used for). And for each area a seperate book for the other stuff; so 3 for bugs, 3 for fishes, 3 for forageables, 3 for mining, 3 for hunting creatures

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i was thinking about getting something physical too.
but it would be cool to just be able to "add to the list" what you are missing and trying to get.

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Yeh

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I've yet to find a game that has a notebook or checklist built in for players to use, which feels really weird because it's so useful and seemingly easy to add

fair briar
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Oh wrong channel

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Thought I had general open lol

arctic patrol
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Lol it's fine

meager burrow
arctic patrol
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It sounds familiar

meager burrow
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She is a teen detective character. She started out in literature, and then had 30+ games under her name made. Point and click adventures, mostly.

tender ember
arctic patrol
fallow storm
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Omg I second an in game notepad.

eternal rain
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very late to the notepad idea, and idk how many people even know about this feature and how useful it can be but for steam players, there is a steam notes that you can utilize in order to keep track of whatever you need, you can type out anything or even go as far as to post screenshots if you need any visuals to help you

in addition, there is also the steam web browser that you can also use in somewhat the same manner as a notepad, if you pull up paliatracker or any other similar sites, you can use them while still being in game, and the cool things about both is that you can pin them so it stays up while you are in game, kind of like an overlay

tender ember
proud carbon
graceful abyss
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what is the shortcut to bring up the steam notes

lyric heart
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Shift and tab there's a notes button

graceful abyss
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thank you

static zephyr
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Definitely need a notes system on consoles!

gritty zinc
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I am absolutely happy to share all my settings if that could help cuz yeah migraines sssuuuuuck

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I fought with the violet lighting so hard

gritty zinc
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(feel free to DM me if that is easier or w/e, either way is totally good!)

gritty zinc
gritty zinc
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time for migraaaaaines for me and at least 5 friends \o/

tulip spire
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The roadmap directly mentions accessibility improvements, nice :-) Under "Looking Ahead".

north mesa
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the Palia Path Fall 2025 | Development Roadmap video is okay but a lot of people will probably still have a rough moment or two - the winter snowball fight is in there somewhat obscured, there's a couple premium outfit animations but slower than normal, in game camera flash

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the accessibility audit is not mentioned this time, but there's a quick mention that they're still working on accessibility improvements

gritty zinc
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"accessibility improvements! we gonna reward players for giving you a seizure with the upcoming event!"

kind tree
tacit reef
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Hi all, I'm experiencing motion sickness for the first time with any game I've played. I think I remember someone in this channel mentioning a graphics setting that helps with that? Any tips would be appreciated (other than the obvious, "play less").

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Pinks are ok, I forgot to mention.

north mesa
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enable center reticle, disable camera shake, increase FOV, and ... more - there's a few older tips in the pins and someone had a good rundown that you might be able to find via search in case they aren't around to share it again

tacit reef
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Ah thank you, I was wondering if I was looking in the right place. I'll check the google doc.

kind tree
tender ember
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The center reticle really helped me, i have no idea why because i dont even notice it now but it works haha🤣

tepid ermine
tacit reef
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lol my game froze right after I changed settings. I'll test the new settings tomorrow.

tender ember
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Lol typical! ❤️

orchid crypt
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So I want a hot chocolat recipe and some nut cake in palia for autumn what do you think?

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sry wrong chat

untold adder
proud fractal
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Okay Bunny, Palia Petition #305... Pumpkin loaf is a MUST have!!

jolly vine
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Hey people. Im having issues with fishing in darker areas cause I cant see the fish very well and also cannot hear sound, is there any setting that helps with that except jacking the gamma on my monitor up to kingdom come in hopes ill see the fish and its not a grey sludge? 😭 I wish there would be a similar green indicator like there is when reeling in fish

eternal rain
jolly vine
white gate
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I’ve really been struggling with this as someone who was blessed with two high definition potatoes for eyes 😔 I know there are brighter, more visible fishing lures out there, but I can’t get them, because surprise! I can’t fish to save my life 😭 The default lure might as well be an invisibility cloak

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I really wish the yellow highlights could be an option in settings or something for the defective eyeballs out here

jolly sparrow
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I bought the seagrass gardens landscape and I love it, but if I spend more than a few minutes on that plot, I start feeling nauseous and get a headache. Is there a setting that could be adjusted that might help? Hoping I didn't waste my money on a landscape I can't use.

jolly sparrow
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Thank you! I'll try those tips when I log on later.

noble orbit
proud fractal
jolly sparrow
proud fractal
jolly sparrow
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I know they are thinking about accessibility fixes for the future. Maybe later on I'll be able to use it. We're about to have a ton of stuff to keep me busy anyway 😁

tacit reef
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Btw, changing the setting definitely helped a little with my motion sickness.

drifting citrus
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Is there ever going to be an option to increase the font size, not for char but for everything else? I have a hard time playing with my switch docked because my astigmatism makes the white font hard to see on my tv because its so small.

tulip spire
hardy vigilBOT
drifting citrus
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Thank you!

tender ember
drifting citrus
# tender ember Wait a minute..i have astigmatism...THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE. You've just awoken...

Yeah i get like a weird double vision/ ghosting with the white font and its awful. I can see the bigger font easier, i still have the issue but its atleast easier to read. but the small font like for quests or player names is awful. It gives me a headache and sore eyes within an hour of playing docked on the tv. And i just got the new switch 2 and battery life isn’t as good as my previous switch

robust elk
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the fish are so hard to see, especially when they are tiny. and so many fish go too fast for me to reel in :/

tulip spire
clear yoke
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whats the link to message palia about helping meout with the buggy prismbeard quest??? its been a month and i still cant get it to work

slender scroll
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!support

hardy vigilBOT
clear yoke
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ty!!

strange solar
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my friend plays on ps5 and he cannot fish whatsoever. he tried to fish in kilima and the fish move too fast for controllers to keep up. he's understandably frustrated and i even tried out using my ps5 controller, and i see what he means. he maxed out the senstivity, but he still can't catch anything. i even struggled to catch, as someone who plays keyboard and mouse. hoping they make more accessibility options for controller players / ps5 / switch.

robust elk
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personally I'd like accessibility settings for fishing that let us automatically follow the fish when reeling in.

proud fractal
neon aspen
next solar
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I have a question on Colourblind modes for the game, I am Red/Green colour blind and find the game difficult. Been living with it for 49 years, so just a query

noble orbit
silk agate
meager burrow
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Hello lovely folks of #♿│accessibility-discussions! I just wanted to do a quick check in and see how we're feeling about having shifted the channel in our recent server changes. From my (admittedly limited) observations, I think we're seeing fewer lost discord members asking tech help questions? What do you think?

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(Promise I'm not just asking to get head pats rat_pat patthext2 I genuinely want to know where we're at and if things are working out!)

molten swift
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I think the move definitely helps, but I think we'll get a better idea of how much when the new patch launches and server traffic jumps up a bit.

north mesa
silk agate
north mesa
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Clarified in mine as well, weird that palia would make it different, seems like a lot of unnecessary additional upkeep

strange solar
next solar
meager burrow
north mesa
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(with images - PC, win11, steam) Color blind settings are under Graphics Settings > Calibrate Screen and there's 3 options (protanope, tritanope, deuteranope) that also have an intensity slider in addition to the gamma slider

pallid plank
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Is there any accessibility setting for PS5 that allows us to change the graphics of the game? My mom has started playing but has a tough time playing with the grass being so high and obscuring things around her base and bugs out in the world.

gloomy sapphire
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hi everyone! will the servers be down for about 5 hpurs tomorrow starting with 5 pm my country time?

tulip spire
grand ibex
pallid plank
grizzled musk
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really? the foliage setting has been on all the consoles i’ve played on… think_cursed

gritty smelt
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What are the best settings for switch to show the game graphics the best? I can't afford a computer, and love this game

twilit bane
pulsar wind
pallid plank
tulip spire
grizzled musk
north mesa
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i think the big safety things are in the known issues - unintentionally color changing foliage in kilima, flickering and extra sounds in new housing lines, placeholder textures

robust elk
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i Hope it'll get fixed soonn

grizzled musk
north mesa
copper violet
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Hello. I don't want to seem like i am complaining. It would just be nice to have a stronger aim assist option for those of us with hand co-ordination issues. Catching bugs is the hardest thing for me personally considering how quickly some of them move plus the need to quickly swap tools sometimes. As a disabled person i generally don't like feeling like i MUST rely on others to get the most out of my life.

robust elk
wicked harness
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thanks. didn't have it active

copper violet
robust elk
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i mostly catch the slower bugs like Blue Butterfly and green lantern bug

copper violet
spice umbra
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Hey all, I'm new to the game so may have missed this, but is there a way to make fish always turn the bright yellow colour when reeling in, not just when they're under objects? I play on switch and I struggle to see where the fish are sometime, particularly at night (I've changed the brightness options already).

Even with bugs too, it would be handy to have them slightly more obvious sometimes. I do understand that part of the charm is stumbling across a bug you did a double take on, but on a tiny screen with glitchy/jumpy movements from the processing, it's not always playable.

north mesa
spice umbra
balmy sage
narrow sun
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idk if this is just me or lag from people loading in but it feels like mouse responsivity has a lag

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usually it would be immediate but now when i move it feels like there is a delay, is anyone else having this problem?

tulip spire
modern fossil
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I wonder if investing in a mouse where you can adjust the DPI with a click of a button would help you guys. I have the logitech G502 X and it has 2 buttons on the front, one to increase and one to decrease the DPI super quickly that I use all time gaming whether its an FPS or chill game, super helpful

warm grove
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In case people are needing text for the twitch drops image, I wrote it here chapaalove :

1-hour Viewed: 5x Apple Jam, 5x Blueberry Jam, 5x Pumpkin Pie
3-hours Viewed: 1x Potato Pod Prize Bag, 1x Shinypod Prize Bag, 1x Series 1 Sticker Pack
6-hours Viewed: Duskwing Glasses

patent sage
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i think this shouldnt happen? not able to place anything on the free standing roofs

gritty zinc
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people are posting a lot of non accessibility things in here -_-

narrow sun
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i restarted my game but the camera settings still have different reactivity than before 😭

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it's like the camera and the character don't move at the same time anymore, not sure if a bug or feature but it makes me motion sick now 😢 does anyone know if there's a way to turn this off if it's a new feature? (i love the update btw other than that ❤️ )

tulip spire
north mesa
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new (i think) bright flash in gardening - when you find a resource while hoeing there's a sparkle and when you collect it with the hoe there's a flash

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so if you see these you may want to avoid them to avoid the flash

modest prism
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heyo how can i disable motion blur? after few min i get terrible motion sickness

modern fossil
rocky cipher
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got put into an infinite loading screen while searching for Palium

lapis tundra
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is there a keyboard key that works on the cooking screens? i have hand issues that affect mouse usage

eternal rain
lapis tundra
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ty

atomic swan
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Hi, all! Is there a general guide/page with accessibility tips/tricks? I have a plethora of needs/issues and don't want to flood chat with questions. It's not just key bindings I need. Also wondering if there's an official form to give dev's suggestions?

grizzled musk
hardy vigilBOT
half socket
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Not sure where to put this, but since the update.. I cannot form a party, it always gives an error

left hazel
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I'm having issues with the animal interface I can't go to the left to scroll the animals information

tulip spire
wise swan
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i found a secret area in my housing behind a wall with a hole and i can't go over to the secret area

tulip spire
arctic patrol
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I don't remember who suggested it, but I downloaded the palia notebook lite app on my phone. I was wondering, what is the difference between the palia notebook, and palia notebook lite? besides that you need to pay for the palia notebook app and the lite one is free

ruby nimbus
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Heya, new-ish to the game. I've been avoiding cooking because of the bars scrolling from left to right. It causes immense nausea, dizziness and headaches. Is there a way to change how it's presented in the settings?

I also fail multiple times due to my hands not doing the thing but I can deal with that haha thank you everyone who is helping everyone. I love this community ❤️

north mesa
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you can disable the cinematic camera which would limit the pov/screen changes, but there's not a way around the rhythm game or a way to modify it unfortunatley

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or rather, not a way around it solo, you could cook with other players who would do those steps while you did different ones - everyone who does a step gets the dish

ruby nimbus
unkempt pier
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hey wassup guys

tulip spire
unkempt pier
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nahh i was thinking if someone is playing and wants company to talk to

tulip spire
unkempt pier
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`thank you 🙂

gilded lodge
# ruby nimbus Heya, new-ish to the game. I've been avoiding cooking because of the bars scroll...

I love cooking and am a chill, quiet individual, if you ever need to cook feel free to add me as a friend (name Henry Iohannes) and I'm happy to do all the tricky mechanics. Mixing and adding completed ingredients are the most accessible steps you could do and still get credit + the meal 🙂

(this goes for anyone who struggles with cooking. I'm disabled too and understand how infuriating quicktime events can be, I will always be happy to help)

narrow sun
atomic swan
# narrow sun for the bar task if you close your eyes and listen there is a ticking sound, the...

Is it weird that the sound is harder for me to time myself to than the visual? I've always been a visual over auditory person. Turning the sound off during the minigame actually helps me focus on the movement, for some strange reason. Now, catching bugs? I'm desperate for a sound when I'm getting close to specific bugs. I really wish the gatherables didn't have sounds but the bugs did, and that I could turn off ambient background sounds. Other games have bug sounds, so I've trained myself to those for "catching" and Palia not having them as a cue I'm getting close is throwing me off big time. 😭

grizzled musk
# atomic swan Is it weird that the sound is *harder* for me to time myself to than the visual?...

nothing weird about it! brains work in all sorts of interesting ways. and like you said, you’re conditioned to certain things from other games. i do wish they’d put in settings that make cooking easier (like games with quick time events have settings where you don’t have to button mash and instead just press the button.) unfortunately the current solution does seem to be cook with others (the only way i can get any dish that has green onions.) there’s channels here to find folks to play with if you’re ever comfortable with doing that chapaahug what kind of mini game do you think would be better for you with cooking? i prefer stirring, but i know some folks struggle with holding buttons down for extended periods.

atomic swan
# grizzled musk nothing weird about it! brains work in all sorts of interesting ways. and like y...

Honestly, I'm just not a fan of timed/quick-time mini games at all. I know it's a whole thing in "cozy" games these days, but it's just a mechanic I'm not a fan of, and I don't really see a need for it in games of this type at all. I think it became A Thing back when games like cooking mama and such became really popular on the DS/3DS and now devs have just run with it. It's the same with fishing and whatnot--all devs feel like it needs to have a mechanic to keep it "busy/fun" and it just...doesn't, you know? Like, BotW's cooking is great. NMS' fishing is great. Neither of those requires timing or a game or anything.

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Hello Games specifically added a feature in NMS for "auto-catch" that basically turns off the need to reel in fish. Just drop your line and forget it. Enjoy the volcano going off in the background or whatever. If you want to reel in yourself? Turn auto catch off and enjoy your little game.

grizzled musk
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yes! i really like BotW and games with similar cooking mechanics where it’s about mixing in the right ingredients to get what you’re going for instead of mini games following a set recipe. feels more like real life cooking to me badruuwheeze
for fishing, there’s games with passive fishing (like in palworld, they have a pal who can fish for you or you can fish yourself) and similar mechanics.

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i think reeling in that elusive big catch that’s super hard to get is a huge accomplishment. i don’t think it detracts from the achievement to give folks who physically can’t do it a way to catch it though.

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especially if you’re going to lock portions of the game behind being able to do it.

atomic swan
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I feel like "cooking" is already fairly punishing in palia because so many recipes are locked behind pretty brutal friendship requirements and/or high-level mats, only to then have to do this really tedious and frustrating mini game that my reflexes just can't handle. It's already enough, you know? Just let me hunt for the recipe and the ingredients and then have the satisfaction of cooking it, like Link does

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There's a lot to be said for how BotW nailed the cooking mechanic. It's a really satisfying system, even without a mini game tied to the cooking, and I think it works because there's no mini-game tied to the cooking itself. Palia's cooking would still be really fun and would still have a leveling element without the minigames. Or they could keep the games for those who like them but give a toggle for those of us who just don't or can't, like what NMS does with the fishing. You still have to wait for the fish to bite in NMS, and there's still RNG (so much RNG 😭 ), so no one gets a free pass, but you don't have to play the line-color-reel game.

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I don't know... I just think too much is put on the "well, you can group with people to make the cooking, fishing, and bug catching easier--it's an mmo!" excuse to justify Palia devs not putting in accessibility features for mini games. Not all of us want to be super social just to do basic game mechanics, especially not in a game that otherwise doesn't play like a regular MMO (and I've been playing MMOs since before WoW existed).

north mesa
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a few of the recipes cut it real close in being able to do them alone without any real issues with the mini game, if they get even harder it's going to force party cooking or abandoning whatever requires the even harder recipes so having something to help with cooking will help everyone. The "Good along, better together" thing is definitely getting pretty thin

neat fulcrum
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for me the chopping/rolling minigames are the part of cooking i can actually manage. where my disability causes issues is with how many steps are involved with most of the recipes, and that there's time limits for each of the steps. i can manage the soup, but i have burnt absolutely everything else i have tried because of executive dysfunction 😬 so i have just making piles and piles of soup to keep my character fed, i have absolutely no chance with any bundles or quests that require more complicated recipes

atomic swan
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It all comes down to having more options and choices for everyone so we can all can just do the thing and play the game. That's what it comes down to.

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It's just not that complicated.

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Time limits add stress. Quick time mini games add stress. Forced social interactions add stress. All these "busy" tasks add stress. Cozy games shouldn't be stressful, really. Just add options to reduce or eliminate stressors, so that people can control which things do/don't stress them out or add too much challenge and the pain/stress/inability to enjoy themselves goes away.

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The problem is that a lot of developers don't think about accessibilty until after the core mechanics of the game have been developed. It has to be part of the entire process from start to finish, not tacked on at the end, and that's just not something they really teach in game development. They're starting to, but we're still years behind.

halcyon narwhal
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idk why paliawiki says carrotseed and not bloodbeetle, is carrot seed the last???

narrow sun
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i'm still having the issue where the character and camera don't seem to move at the same time anymore, does anyone know if it's a feature that can be turned off for motion sickness?

tulip spire
eternal rain
fleet ledge
narrow sun
# eternal rain are you reffering to the camera assist setting? you can enable or disable it if ...

nope it's not this setting (but this is a cool setting i like it!), before the update it seemed the camera moved at the same time as the character, now when i jump or move the mouse it seems the camera takes 0.1-0.2 seconds to follow and so the character and the camera don't move in sync anymore, it's subtle but noticeable if you're sensitive to that, unsure if it's a bug for me or an issue other people are having though

atomic swan
# robust elk oh i wish we had that in Palia

Me too! I love it so much in NMS and I want it in all games with fishing now. NMS still has that RNG element, so there's still satisfaction in getting those rare catches and such, and you have different depths and zones/biomes to factor in, so it's not just a "drop a line; get prize" situation, and you can toggle it off if you want to do the game, so it really does work for all types of players, from "sweats" to casuals. 🙂

lyric mesa
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I really wish it was easier to see some of the bugs. I'm legally blind and some of them are really hard to see.

noble orbit
atomic swan
atomic orbit
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hey friends if anyone else is struggling with the camera motion when you interact with the animals, due to motion sickness or whatever, please join me in submitting feedback! it’s actually so painful for myself and a friend. they were feeling extremely sick today. we need to have a setting to turn off that cinematic camera motion. thank you 🙏 🖤

rose spoke
frigid thunder
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my sister is playing on an older switch, and she cannot do fishing at all

frigid thunder
neat fulcrum
rose spoke
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the auto aim for the arrows needs to be changed… i’ve lost azure chapaa and other rare creatures more than once bc of that one random sernuk or whatever the arrow decided to auto aim for…

narrow sun
frigid thunder
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they have stuff to do and info, or you can just ignore them

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i cant go much into detail or ill be breaking server rules

gritty zinc
lyric mesa
neat fulcrum
# grizzled musk there’s some here https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/12676318450137...

sorry i wasn't clear, my disability affects my communication. when i asked about finding "these communities", i wasn't meaning palia communities in general, but rather ones that would help me around the specific difficulty i have with cooking that would allow me to progress further in the game. i wasn't sure if there was a specific way they would describe themselves that i should be searching for. but i have now received a couple of DMs from people who understood what i was asking, so i will follow up with them and hopefully be able to do more complicated recipes by this method. 😊

grizzled musk
wintry dawn
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hi, guys! this is my first time playing games, and i have a hard time with it bcs of my motion sickness. i have tried reducing the graphics and all but still doesn't help. any tips please? i want to get into games so bad

flat wave
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Hi ! i'm french and i search people to play chill DM ME 🇫🇷 🥖

noble orbit
narrow sun
# wintry dawn hi, guys! this is my first time playing games, and i have a hard time with it bc...

hey i used to be able to play palia until the new update without many issues (i get very motion sick as well with some other games) but since the new update it makes me more motion sick, idk if this is a problem only for me but maybe this is the. case for you too and you'll be able to play it if a fix rolls out? reducing the camera mouse sensitivity helps and not moving the camera when you run or move helps as well, i'm waiting on a fix though before fully playing again, good luck 🙏

tulip spire
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Unless there's an accessibility angle I'm missing with this, best to ask in #🤝│game-help .

echo ferry
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It was the only time he appeared to me. Pc gamer

cerulean lily
wintry dawn
cloud edge
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I'm fairly new to Palia, I started a couple of months ago. Three weeks ago I tripped, fell and broke my right shoulder - this means weeks of immobolisation and just a clumsy left hand to play. I set a spare button on my mouse for running and have been able to do nearly all of the content. I'm slow and miss a few shots but have still progressed and had loads of fun. It's so nice that this game has given me the fun escape into Palia despite my restrictions. My first cosy game, and loving it 🙂

tulip spire
hardy vigilBOT
tacit otter
rose spoke
tacit otter
eternal rain
rose spoke
rose spoke
eternal rain
tacit otter
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Omg thanks guys!! I had no idea
This is very good to know

rose spoke
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i don’t have a pc. i only have a switch

tacit otter
eternal rain
rose spoke
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lucky lol

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i greatly dislike this thing

narrow sun
cerulean lily
tacit otter
jolly veldt
robust kindle
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What if we have the voice actors actually speak their lines in some later updates? That would be too cute to hear Hassian actually vocalize his whole lines!!! blobaww blobaww blobaww

winter sky
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Hi guys, I can't find any chat channel to get votes, does anyone know where I can communicate about it?

winter sky
burnt sigil
grizzled musk
burnt sigil
eternal rain
grizzled musk
eternal rain
north hill
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so I get very motion sick, and to play the game I need to do a like pomodoro type thing, play for 30 min, take a break for like 10-15 min and so on.

I've tried a few different things. and they've helped to an extent. but I really wish 1) the FOV thing in this game actually made the camera get farther from the character. instead it sort of distorts the bg and that makes me even more motion sick 😵‍💫 and 2) I wish there was a mine or something to get ores at, all the walking around and panning the camera around looking for ores makes me so so dizzy 😭 oh and 3) I wish tilling and watering didn't auto zoom in the camera, cuz you guessed it, that also makes me super duper dizzy

eternal rain
# north hill so I get very motion sick, and to play the game I need to do a like pomodoro typ...

something that i can say regarding the finding ores one, you can try and buy the ore bars from hodari or from sifuu's blacksmith shop if you ever need more of those materials, and also request more from other players, i know this isnt really exactly fixing your motion sickness issue regarding trying to find ores and all, but these are some alternatives you can try to do instead of having to constantly look around just to like only get 5 ores max

north hill
eternal rain
# north hill yeah, that's actually a good idea. soon as I start making more money, I might ma...

something else to add on, you can try and party up with other players, while this does still require you to look around finding ores, you can have them be your eyes as they will be the ones who scan around looking for ores while you look at something static to not aggrevate your motion sickness, in addition, by being in a party, you get a chance at double loot, which is helpful in farming more ores

rotund geyser
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Question- on the current discussion taking place.

Would this channel be appropriate for pinging an @ here, and inviting anyone with accessibility issues to come along to gather… whatever, really?

I love the idea of using the party system to get around some peoples’ issues until a better fix takes place.

Or maybe the party section for dedicated “helper” events?

north hill
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if I were to ask for help like mana suggests, I'd probably go to the parties channel, explain my situation, and see if anyone volunteered 🤔

north hill
shy coyote
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Ugh... The homing arrows/auto aim thing. I despise that cursed mechanic so much... As if hunting on switch didn't have enough challenges

north hill
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ah, yeah, i meant to add to the aim assistance thing.

basically I play on pc with controller, and whenever I need to hunt I just do a hybrid: walk with the joystick, aim and shoot with the mouse, and I just squint at the screen so the camera doesn't make me too dizzy.

if it's a chaapa? chappa? and I don't kill it on one try, then I give up on it lol, aint no one swinging around the camera to try and catch the lil guys. if it's a sernuk, I hit it once, the follow slowly, see where it goes, and then give it the second shot to off it.

but aiming in controller is a full nope. so my condolences to hunting on switch/console

fair briar
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I can hunt perfectly fine on switch

north hill
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I guess it'll depend on camera sensitivity? I have my camera sensitivity for controller super low to help with the motion sickness. which in turn makes it difficult to hunt with controller 🤔

fair briar
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Ah I moved my aim sensitivity up cause I have stick drift

rose spoke
iron umbra
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Not sure if this has been mentioned before but what I am missing is a minimap to navigate. I know there's the bar with the questmarkers and such, but when I have no quests, I often get lost and have to check the big map to see if I am even going in the right direction 🫣

green estuary
iron umbra
green estuary
iron umbra
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I keep forgetting to once I log off 🫣 going to report it as soon as I log in

spice egret
fathom kiln
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I have Huntington's disease. I have uncontrollable movements that make it hard to do platform quests.

molten swift
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Yes the game would really benefit from a minimap and being able to move with the map open becoming semitransparent while moving. Many of us suggested and asked for this during alpha testing but maybe if enough people ask or maybe the accessibility audit will help, but they have 100% heard this request before and have unfortunately been really resistant to a minimap in the past.

iron umbra
molten swift
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Yeah something would be better than nothing. I know the addition of elderwoods really made navigation a lot harder for folks like us who would benefit from those features, so maybe now with that and the accessibility audit they may eventually be persuaded to add a minimap, it would really be better if they implemented it themselves. I guess time will tell.

atomic swan
# molten swift Yes the game would really benefit from a minimap and being able to move with the...

It's interesting they'll be doing an accessibility audit. I've found these to not be very helpful, because unless they've brought in experts from within many accessibility-focused communities, they're often just pr stunts and it's really frustrating for the actual communities hoping to see functional changes to the programming. When accessibility isn't developed in the programs from the start, but is tacked on towards the end, it's never quite enough. Here's hoping, though.

molten swift
north mesa
# narrow sun oh whaat, what does it say?

it's unfortunately a bit of a lie, at least on PC there isn't anything labeled "Motion Sickness Settings" though the description of "Persistent Center Reticle" when you hover over it does say it can reduce motion sickness the settings needed to manage the issue are on two tabs and a submenu.

north hill
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Oh yeah, I also pored over my whole settings menus looking for that AJSJJD

tepid agate
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not sure if it's the right place, but is it possible for the fast travel signposts to be visible on the map? would make transport a whole lot easier once you have the gold to afford it

silk spire
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they are once you find them majicare and you can set a marker on them to show up on your compass
its the horse shoe icons

tepid agate
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and are the markers we set permenant or do we have to apply em each time we log in

silk spire
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you would have to set the marker each time you want to find one, since you can only have one marker active at a time and it resets when you leave the area/quit i think

gritty zinc
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just popping in here again to kindly ask folks to send feedback about seizure and photosensitivity triggers 💜
need a lot more voices, it doesn't seem like s6 is caring about photosensitivity reactions

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flashing and strobing lights, dispel arrows, smoke bombs (especially sneaky ones), all the fireworks shows at maji market, firework arrows, flashy outfit change animations, animated arrows from flashy tool skins, flare arrows

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need a toggle to hide these on client side to prevent seizures and other neurological episodes

chilly prawn
north hill
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I can see my future is bleak /lh and somewhat silly

just the water geyser made me so motion sick the first time I tried it, I had to re do it like 3 times to actually get the landing place right to finish that quest, and then like 2 more times to grab the hidden stuff on one of the platforms to the side

lyric mesa
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I really feel like making the bugs glow or something might help those of us that have trouble seeing them.

narrow sun
narrow sun
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i used to find those settings really effective tho, they were useful before for me for motion sickness

north hill
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idk what it is, but there's somethign about bahari bay that makes me super duper motion sick in like 15 min flat

atomic swan
wanton estuary
hard surge
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has anyone else had horrible motion sickness since the update? i already have the motion sickness settings on which helped loads in the past when i first turned it on but something about it since the last update is causing super bad nausea for me

hard surge
north hill
# hard surge my inability to look up lmfao. i was just trying to hunt and i would have to sto...

I was trying to look for ores and heartwood. mannn, panning the camera looking for things for hunting, looking for ores, looking for gatherables, or looking for trees I can cut at my level in bahari bay makes me motion sick to the point of needing to lie down super fast.

I changed some things, and finally did something right, and I can mostly move around in peace in kilima. but bahari bay is a no go

hard surge
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i just wanted to grind some money for the new house stuff man 😭 do you remember what settings you tried to change? i literally thought the prism in my glasses prescription was messing me up so i got to the point yesterday moving my monitor and taking my glasses off and THOSE very irl things didn’t help at all

north hill
# hard surge i just wanted to grind some money for the new house stuff man 😭 do you remember...

so for one thing the day before yesterday I'd set up the FOV to 110 and that helped when moving around kilima, but when I went to bahari bay it distorted the bg so so bad that I got dizzy in like 5 min. yesterday I moved the FOV to 100 and I managed to last a bit longer in bahari bay, but still it's just like 15 min before I need to go lie down for a while.

A lot of it is also being very very gentle with the way I pan the camera around. In kilima I can pan it around a bit faster. but in bahari bay i need to move it super slow, and close one eye.

which btw, closing one eye actually helps with how fast I get motion sick! I when I'm panning the camera around a lot, I start alternating every so often, and close one eye, then change, then change back and so on.

gritty zinc
austere sorrel
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I just came back after like 2 years and am surprised that so many of these issues haven't been resolved. I really hate the flashing when digging plots, many of us asked for this to be toggleable years ago.

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Is it possible to scale the UI? This is a basic feature in the vast majority of games and I cannot find it at all.

stiff kelp
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Please please please add a talk to text option. Chat can still be censored if necessary this way, but it would literally be game-changing for people.

north hill
austere sorrel
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No I mean scale the UI elements

north hill
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Otherwise, I'm not quite sure what scaling the UI means or looks like

austere sorrel
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Making the UI elements a different size, it's a pretty standard feature in most games especially MMOs

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So like the item bar, focus bar, all the windows etc

north hill
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Oh! I get it now

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Yeah no, cant scale that 😔 which is a pain cuz i have bad eyesight and i need to hover over stuff for it to tell what in the world that is

austere sorrel
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Pretty weird considering how long the game has been in development to not have such a basic feature

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But this game lacks quite a lot of basic features that are normal in other online games so I guess I shouldn't be surprised

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Apparently there is a way to go into some text file and change it but I'm unsure on the details of that

north hill
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Oh I'm so bad with tech stuff. Solutions like that always make me feel like if i try it, I'll break the game 🤣🤣🤣

north mesa
molten swift
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Yeah s6 is known to silently tweak things frequently. I miss the lighting from alpha days, it was good then and now it just keeps getting worse and harder on those of us with sensitivities each time it's tweaked.

north hill
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Man, the other day I was fishing right as twilight? or dusk? idk but there was a shadow of something right beside me, and it kept flickering 💀 and I've seen a lot of shadows flicker often as the lighting changes

robust elk
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yea I've seen flickers too, i just thought some textures were bugged

north hill
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I thought it was my graphics 🤣

midnight frigate
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I get insanely bad motion sickness (Cyberpunk 2077 was absolutely unplayable when it first came out) and these settings have helped me a lot

sudden ferry
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Oofta. Anyone with sensory issues might want to avoid the Little Red outfit. The fluttery and sporadic movement of the cape drives my sensory issues a little wild 🥲 which is disappointing because it's so cute

atomic swan
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It's one of very, very few in the open world and on my character that don't cause problems, and the animation effect is subtle, unlike so many

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I don't know why the costume designers like these wild, flashy animations so much, but some of them are just so, so flashy and they don't come with toggles to shut them off--or any way for other players to shut them off; it's obnoxious and unnecessary.

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Let players have them if they wish and paid for them, but let players also have the option of toggling them off in the overworld if we don't want to see them on others/ourselves.

midnight frigate
gusty blaze
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Is there a way to make the 'press any key to start' incluce mouse clicks?

eternal rain
# gusty blaze Is there a way to make the 'press any key to start' incluce mouse clicks?

i mean, my mouse can do that, but thats because my mouse is a hyperx pulsefire core which has 2 dpi buttons and 2 side mouse buttons on it, and rebound it from the hyperx ngenuity app so that the dpi buttons act like the up and down arrow keys, idk if you also need to rebound keybinds in palia as well since i also made the dpi buttons bound to interact and jump

gritty zinc
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popping in here again, please send feedback about flashing lighting if you are willing 💜
the new flickering plants make issues even worse.
there are a ton of seizure and photosensitivity triggers and s6 doesn't seem to care

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dispel arrows, fireworks, maji market strobe lights and firework explosions, flares, sneaky smoke bombs, flashing outfit change animations

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and the new animated flashing arrows

craggy hound
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Can we please have some way to mute or hide chat from popping up? Most of the time it is helpful, but more and more recently I have been experiencing people just trolling because they think it is funny and honestly it is exhausting trying to report every single one of them and it really takes away from the experience of the game feeling like you have to be the chat police.

eternal rain
craggy hound
eternal rain
craggy hound
molten swift
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It doesn't hide your name from others in game it just hides your name on your screen. It's intended for streamers who don't want their viewers to see their in game name.

tranquil wharf
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is there anyway a dyslexia friendly font could be added to the game as i rlly struggle to read the long chats

north hill
pulsar shale
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The devs really need to make it so you can customize the size of menus and text. Other games have that functionality and it's one of the main things that continues to bother me about this game. I have dyslexia and poor eyesight, so the screen has to be either really large or I need to sit really close to the screen. But when I sit too close to the screen and play too long, it can sometimes trigger my vertigo. So it's like either way I can't win.

I don't get why the devs didn't add the ability to adjust menu/text size. It makes me think they must not have anyone working for them who is disabled or familiar with accessibility needs 😡

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Like in my bedroom I have a medium size TV, and even when I have it pushed up against the end of my bed, it's not big enough and I sometimes have to scoot closer just so I can see something.

I wish that - for inventory items - they didn't have "x1" when you only have 1 item. If there's just one item, it doesn't need to say "x1". It would be easy to see if you have just one item. But because it isn't like that, and the text is so small, there have been times I thought I had more than one and then it ended up being the last one.

So if the devs are reading this, please consider making small adjustments to the menu sizes and how quantities are listed so it's easier to see/read!

craggy hound
dense yacht
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How do I make a spot on a cooking plot sensory friendly

last cargo
noble orbit
molten swift
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Low sensory areas need distance and visual barriers between stations, nothing intractable near cooking stations (lights, faucets, etc) to avoid issues interacting with cooking stations, no moving wallpaper, no moving objects, no flickering lights like candles etc, no jukebox or music boxes playing, etc and no one running around those areas. As above, keep colors simple, nothing too bright or saturated, well lit but no harsh bright lights.

For those that need stimulation or get restless, place those stations as far as possible from low sensory areas, have intractable objects nearby but not too close to stations, room to jump and run a bit, maybe a spot to fish during breaks

dense yacht
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Open, not very much color, away from people

eternal rain
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you can do something like this, although idk how others will feel about this approach, you can put in all of the cooking stations in one room per person if you are one of those people who cook different types of dishes everytime you host a party, it kind of checks out everything, simple wallpaper, no other forms of interactable objects/furniture such as faucets and the tent acts as a barrier for anything so each player has their own cooking "room" and you can space out each tent

warm grove
dusk rapids
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hey there - I've heard there are a few games settings to help with Motion sickness.
Anyone have any tips on what settings to change for that?

tepid ermine
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If you don't get answers to your questions, try searching this channel to see if the question has been asked and answered before. Just look for the 🔍 in the top right corner.

green estuary
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I suppose I didn’t even realize some people get overstimulated with the premium outfits. I usually play alone but it’s still good to know

dire escarp
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I missing so much a player ( mariaa31) Can you please contact her and tell to come back to play with me.....I feel so bad without her. please contact her....

grizzled musk
bright flint
lavish nimbus
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Is there a way to bulk buy items in the shops? I have carpal tunnel syndrome so it gets hard after a round of going to the shops to stock up

north hill
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omg right. I find the clicking x times to buy x number of items a biit hard, but it's because I have dyscalculia and I always end up counting wrong and accidentally buying one or two more of the the thing i need. so instead of buying 18 seeds, i buy 19 or 20

plus, my game lags?? (or maybe it's my bad eyesight) and it looks like I bought 18, but then when I go plant things I end up with one extra sigh

gritty zinc
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maji market still has violent strobe lights from drums and fireworks
people are gonna have more seizures :(
please send feedback, I'm so tired of getting sick when someone uses the drums

dawn mirage
warm grove
slow sky
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I'm usually not photosensitive, but I am epileptic, so I know how serious of an issue this really is. For people who are photosensitive, it gets dangerous really fast. If the devs either can't or refuse to add some accessibility options to at least keep people safe, they're inevitably going to lose players. 🙁

simple lagoon
tulip spire
simple lagoon
tulip spire
simple lagoon
# tulip spire That's odd... Give me a second to check it, but I could've sworn last weekend th...

It might be circumstantial for me.
I'm playing on the lowest settings out of necessity just to run the game on my ancient gaming laptop while my newer one is getting repaired.
I've played around with the graphics settings a lot for this month and noticed that when I change the "effects" option to anything but low, it renders all the lights and stuff but on low, it doesn't.
It might be different on a system that can handle the game at highest settings even when they're all turned to low

tulip spire
simple lagoon
tulip spire
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And it's taking its time to open, Steam wants to update the Steam software apparently...

simple lagoon
tulip spire
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Fair! My flashy stuff ideas are (I usually just find that stuff annoying, not an actual medical problem, so the relevancy might vary):

  1. Outfit shop (or outfits in the world if I can find them)
  2. fishing something and hope I get the fancy animation, no clue when it plays but it can get huge
  3. Shooting fireworks on my plot (though I'm not that bothered by those)
  4. Shooting arrows and throwing smoke bombs
  5. watering stuff
simple lagoon
ionic plume
# bright flint i get overstimulated by some but then sometimes i end up staring at someone’s ou...

When elderwood first came out, I may or may have not mistook someone's fancy outfit to be an infected tree and promptly began chopping them (I was not yet used to the darkness of elderwood) and just as promptly traveled home to switch servers upon seeing that I was not cutting down a tree chapaafire if we don't laugh we will cry folks (edit: I know this is accessibility not to worry. I would be thrilled to have a lantern or headlight of some sort to get me through elderwood and the other dark areas in game. I greatly benefited from the light ring thingy in stardew valley)

north hill
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right, a light ring or something would help so much 😭

coral totem
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Hi everyone - Apologies if this has been asked before but is there a way to enable subtitles in game? I was told I would love Badruu's puns but their spoken lines don't always match the text and half the time, leaving a convo sparks another spoken line that has no subtitles.

Thanks for any help!

grizzled musk
bright flint
ionic plume
warm grove
eager anvil
tulip spire
# eager anvil

Hello! The server is in english, for moderation purposes. Here's the accessibility channel, so for things like disability accommodations. Maybe ask in #🤝│game-help if you don't get an answer in #💬│palia-general ?
French translation of the above text: Bonsoir! Ce serveur est en anglais pour que la modération soit possible. Ici, tu es dans la chaîne pour l'accessibilité, c'est sur les choses comme les besoins des utilisateurs handicapés. Peut-être tu auras plus de succès dans #🤝│game-help si tu ne recevras aucune response au #💬│palia-general ? (Désolé pour les fautes, le français n'est pas mon langue premier.)

eager anvil
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thank you so much !!! i finally solve the problem but it's so nice thank's again

elder vessel
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does anyone know if there is a setting to turn off the animation when clicking on ranching animals? the camera moves a lot and its been making me dizzy

cerulean lily
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Please @ me if there’s a way to do that. The camera movements bother me as well

north hill
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not just that, the camera zooming in when watering and tilling the plot makes me incredibly dizzy as well, I really wish there was a way to stop those animations.

what I've noticed is that increasing the FOV, even if you just move it from 90 to 100, makes the camera zoom in a lot slower and it's gentler on my motion sickness. I'm not sure if that might help with clicking on ranching animals? I can't test it out cuz I don't have animals yet jasjdjjd

eternal rain
# north hill not just that, the camera zooming in when watering and tilling the plot makes me...

tested it with all fovs besides 30 (apparently that fov option is bugged and nothing happens when you pick it), i cant really tell how slow the camera speed goes but thats because i never experience motion sickness whatsoever so you guys have to watch it in full and see which fov is comfortable i guess, one thing that i noticed at least while testing is that where your character and camera maybe? faces affects how fast the camera will move around from targetting your animal back to your character

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also something else to add, idk if this will also affect other animals since i only tested it with my bumble and if your fps matters as well when it comes to this since i have my fps to the max for performance

north hill
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wow mana, bless your eyes, idk how you didn't die with the zooming on the fov's before 100 😵‍💫

eternal rain
north hill
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ah I didn't use to get so badly motion sick, but high-red screens have been triggering it BAD. good old VGA screens were gentle on me /silly

I do agree that the angle affects how fast and how vertigo inducing the camera movement is

elder vessel
uncut yoke
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I get so dizzy playing the chappaa hunt game! Also they really really need to add an on screen notification/captions for some of their audio stuff. Specifically scaring bugs, dragonflies, chappa/animal spawns, and dialog like someone said up there. I’m barely HOH with motion sickness and I can’t play it during flares. Doesnt seem fair that basic audio accessibility features aren’t available yet. I know it’s still Beta and I love this game so much but if it’s supposed to be “home” they really do need to prioritize that imo. Sorry if that’s salty again I really love the attention, love and care they put into this game.

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Honey, essence, and some forages are also a lot harder to without audio. Also fishing! The bobber barely bobs and you have to be starting right at it the whole time bc it flicks away so fast without much visual change or haptics.

silk spire
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hard agree, the only times i find honey are when i am within 3 meters of it and happen to look directly at it chapaafire audio cues are not the best for me
and for fishing, the line flying around as you move the bobber causes dizziness for me which is terrible having to try 20 times for a single fish
hopefully more improvements happen sooner then later einarpleased

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ive got most of my honey by requesting it, probably only found 5 ever badruuwheeze

winged compass
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As someone who can hear just fine but often plays without audio:

Honey has certain areas where it spawns more densely. If I need honey I go to Mitana Grove and there are specific trees it tends to spawn in, just look at the trees.

Saying this to be helpful, not dismissive

lime halo
# uncut yoke Honey, essence, and some forages are also a lot harder to without audio. Also fi...

My audio is off & I have no issues, yes I have issues with flashy things & camera movement, I adjusted most mine in settings & it helps. Fireworks well I keep my camera away from the water easily dealt with. During balloons & chapaas when I am forced to look at water no one is shooting fireworks cuz they shooting balloons. Honey I have no issues finding it especially by Mitana grove, just keep looking for yellow things floating in trees lol. I learned to work without the hints of sounds it can be done.

north hill
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someone said earlier that it would be awesome to have the feature to possibly make the bugs glow too. and I super agree. I'm more sensitive to hearing, so I hear the fellas making sounds and moving around, I just cannot see them for the life of me 💀 and then panning the camera around quickly to look for them makes me super dizzy.

if they're far way I can find them and hunt them, but if they're nearby it's most likely I end up scaring them and having to chase after them, which, you guessed it! makes me dizzy

grizzled musk
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it’d also help lower end hardware players — when i’m on my steam deck, i’m always afraid i’ll run into something rare someone is trying to catch.

lyric mesa
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Another suggestion: Could we maybe get an icon on the map when the flower event in Kilima and the bounce event in Elderwood show up? Finding these in time get harder when most people are done with them.

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Also, please make fishing easier. OMG, the bobber doesn't move fast enough sometimes and even with the glowing bobber, it's hard to see if it clips behind foliage, rocks, etc.

tulip spire
lyric mesa
tulip spire
chrome bane
grand ibex
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PSA to anyone decorating, turn off the paltch fan beforehand, the closeup spinning of it gave me such bad motion sickness.🤢

gentle basin
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!feedback let them know of all these issues chapaafire

hardy vigilBOT
wise steppe
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Feedback- Re: Animal Farming - I don’t understand why have alot of pens if all the animals are always together. They should be separated by species.. and it’s super glitchy, whenever breeding the animal disappears and then appears in a different pen with the adult animals .. I don’t understand that. All animals should be separated when newly born and young adults - instead of having old and new in the main pen. I don’t get it and it’s frustrating for me.

grizzled musk
# wise steppe Feedback- Re: Animal Farming - I don’t understand why have alot of pens if all t...

hey there! you can use the feedback form linked in the message above yours to submit this feedback. unless i'm missing something (and i apologize if i am!), your feedback is related to gameplay. this channel is for discussing how players with disabilities interact with the game, issues they face, improvements they'd like to see, etc. so please use the feedback form to send the feedback to the game studio directly. there's also https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/809886640285417480 and https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1415180802802847754 if you'd like to discuss this with other players!

wise steppe
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Ohh sorry about that

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I clicked on the link but tells me to send a request and. Nothing there says to send feedback - it’s more for game issues so, where do I put in for feedback ???

molten swift
wise steppe
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Yes that’s the same link - when I click it takes to click on one of the following but doesn’t have anything for feedback

wise steppe
north hill
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this is what clicking the link for feedback looks like from pc

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are you maybe accessing thru mobile and that's causing issues?

wise steppe
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Yes that’s the same exact link now.. when you click it - it gives you to send support for everything. Else but not to send feedback ..

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Either way - I’m just not going to send it .. honestly it’s just a waste of time - not trying to be negative but because I’ve send for game support and they responded a month later ..

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But thanks for trying to help.

molten swift
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This is what I see on mobile after using the next button at the bottom of the page

north mesa
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if you choose feedback as the ticket reason from the drop down on the support site it should automatically send you to the feedback form

gritty zinc
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gonna have to quit playing, I poured 1.5k hours into this game but the strobe lights keep getting worse and it's like s6 is trolling with adding more flashing things

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if they cared they would have done something by now

simple fable
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Is there a way to turn off the flashing number effects some people have when mining or shooting something?

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it always hurts and if I am around it for too long it causes a headache lol idk why

simple fable
gritty zinc
# simple fable wait, strobe lights? do you mean graphics flashing? if so, have you checked for ...

nope, i mean fulllllll on violent strobe lights. there are a ton of flashing effects in this game, but the maji market drums fireworks are the absolute worst. it is the classic seizure inducing combo of >3 flashes per second + rapidly changing colours + across the whole screen. extremely dangerous. i was in bed for over 2 days in searing pain after getting flashbanged at the market, reported it months ago and they've done nothing
please do send feedback and ask your friends to, i've been trying to get people to beg s6 for epilepsy and other photosensitivity safety. there is zero way to minimize any flashing, other than asking other players to not do flashy things. and s6 keeps adding more flashing things despite talking about planning to improve accessibility ...
so if you're having pain from flashing please be careful of
-maji market, (there are also random fireworks throughout the day that explode across the screen)
-sticky smoke bombs (any bug lure parties will have rapid flashing from smoke bombs but sticky ones are the flashiest),
-dispel arrows (worst in elderwood where it's darker),
-people who use the flashy animated toolskins (they add a flash animation to arrows),
-certain outfit change animations when people switch outfits
-firework arrows,
-looking up at flares

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they need to add a toggle to turn off flashing effects on client side. so far they've only ever mentioned making a toggle for outfit animations, but nothing about preventing seizures

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i know a lot of people that get headaches from the effects as well or it hurts their eyes, it's not uncommon. like, folks that don't normally have any photosensitivity but do get pain from this game
so the more people that send feedback and/or reports the better tbh

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(sorry for wall of text)

grand ibex
silk spire
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for me flares are bad if someone shoots it directly on the item (ore, plant, etc) since the raining smoke covers most of the screen while getting it and for ores that can be several seconds of dealing with it with lower tier pickaxes

this is why i just shoot near the item rather then right on top of it

grand ibex
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But also to piggy back, I feel like there should be a specific volume control for fireworks

grand ibex
gritty zinc
# grand ibex I'm asking this genuinely to understand, how do flares trigger epilepsy? They do...

i can't speak to epilepsy triggers specifically, but photosensitivity covers a huge range of neurological issues
mine is rare and way less well known, but the triggers include single flashes and bright lights, rapidly changing colours and vivid colours. so there's a bunch of overlap and end result is very, very bad
flares flash when you first shoot them (wherever the arrow lands), as well as at the top of it if you look up, it will flash as it reaches the top of the smoke each time

simple fable
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The only game I have issues with at the market is the chapaa chase LOL it gives me mild motion sickness if I'm not careful.

simple fable
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and I almost lost it 🤣

gritty zinc
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i do some limited playing, but it bums me out having to skip a lot of things, or asking a bunch of people to not do specific things that they'd normally wanna do
and having to avoid big fun parts of the game entirely

green hollow
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is it possible to set a minimum timer for hot pot?

spam tables are super annoying to keep up with and they always yell at you

gritty zinc
green hollow
gritty zinc
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that is a social issue imo because everyone can do spampot if they want to

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well, that's a huge generalisation
some folks may not have the speed needed due to physical disabilities yes

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if it's an issue of not wanting people to do spampot at all, that'd be a social thing
if it's an issue of the game having settings that aren't accessible for folks with disabilities (like unchangeable tiny writing for some folks with low vision) then that's accessibility

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hotpot is still possible, so if the issue is how specific folks are playing it, that's to do with the players

green hollow
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idk, maybe you're right.. maybe it is a bit of both. I avoid spampots like the plague, but sometimes you end up at one regardless, which causes the social issues I guess.

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I just dont want a bunch of people yelling at me for stuff I can't help.

gritty zinc
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folks will announce which tables are for spam, and maybe it might help if you arrange for a party of friends to play regular hotpot? and then find one of the lone tables so other folks are less likely to come up and jump in between rounds

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it can also help to find a solo table and say something in server or nearby, like 'reg hotpot room for 2' or w/e

green hollow
gritty zinc
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that definitely won't help smooth the social element

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idk, i haven't had issues with hotpot personally but if i'm walking up to a table i ask if it's spam or reg if i just got there
or i start my own

north mesa
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rare iris
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I've never posted here before so I apologize if this is a dumb question. But would asking about getting more body types be an accessibility discussion or would it need to be somewhere else?

carmine nymph
rare iris
grizzled musk
hardy vigilBOT
mental phoenix
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hi i have screen shake off but the screen is still shaking sometimes when mining. is this a known issue? i double checked the setting, screen shake is unchecked

north hill
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yo, maybe that's why mining makes so so dizzy :0

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now that you mention it my screen does also shake sometimes when with screen shake off

grizzled musk
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yes that is a bug that can happen.

stoic obsidian
grizzled musk
stuck tartan
gritty zinc
stuck tartan
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That's so frustrating

gritty zinc
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like from any s6 people at all

north mesa
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Yeah aside from doing an accessibility audit, working on the full screen flashes on scene changes, adding a little seen warning (in announcements which doesnt show up if you select only show new info) about snowballs as they worked on fixing a year old flash with them, and the start of work on vfx toggle (mostly oblique references to the overarching issue at best and limited in scope, but still giving them a little credit) there's been no direct acknowledgement of the visual issues despite the legal exposure (many games have the photosensitiviry warning on unskipable loading pages if they're not going to reduce them) even with folks talking about needing rescue meds or having a flare up. It's been 2 years of beta and 4 years since the start of players being hands on with pre-alpha

mental phoenix
lyric mesa
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Also, maybe enabl us to click on an NPC on the map and it will track them like the tracker works for quests?

north mesa
chilly prawn
stiff pumice
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Is there a way to see the indicators for a fish tugging? As in not relying on hearing?

eternal rain
# stiff pumice Is there a way to see the indicators for a fish tugging? As in not relying on he...

when a fish is about to spawn into your hook, your fishing line will tug 3 times, by the 3rd time, you character will jump into motion as if being ready to start reeling in, this is also the time you yourself should start reeling in, the game does also give you a sound effect when a fish has bit into your fishing hook but as you have said before, you cannot rely on hearing so these are the other ways of knowing when the fish has bit into your fishing hook

stiff pumice
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You know, I've never really thought about that

gritty zinc
# stiff pumice Is there a way to see the indicators for a fish tugging? As in not relying on he...

I don't rely on hearing, and I fish a ton
the bobber will tug significantly when a fish bites and the fish will jump at the bobber as well
timing is like the previous person said, it can be sped up a bit when you get the buff from other people fishing near you, as well as trout dinner
the default bobber is really hard to see, but once you complete the fire bundle (vault of flames I think it's called?) you get one that's easier to see. and you can buy some from Einar too

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if you miss the first time it bites, you can wait and it will bite again, just don't click until the fish is on the line

tiny grail
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Is there any way to bind the camera movement to keys? I have arthritis in my hands and holding down mouse or controller buttons is painful compared to keys (I use an ergonomic split keyboard). I can bind the tool use to a key but I can't seem to find a way to bind the camera movement. It would be ideal if I could keep movement on the WSAD keys and bind the camera to my arrow keys on the inverted-T. Additionally if anyone asks, I have been trying vertical mice and they don't seem to help much.

carmine nymph
stiff pumice
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Yesss I learned quickly with my Xbox but I cant see the TV well 😹😹😹 I play both pc and Xbox! I do have a switch as well. I play mainly pc unless im not feeling well.

plush locust
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that sent WAY late, mb. lolz.

gritty zinc
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converting keystrokes into mouse movements

lyric mesa
north mesa
simple fable
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Is there anything that can be done about the visual when the fishing rod can't cast? It does a wavy camera effect that immediately triggers motion sickness for me. Wondering if there's a camera feature I can disable or something?

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I realize one solution would be to not cast in uncastable areas, but the moss at De Mer be foolin me sometimes

hollow trout
simple fable
hollow trout
simple fable
hollow trout
mental phoenix
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Please remove the random zoom in feature for watering. It feels like vertigo and isn't very fun. I have to close my eyes sometimes.

Also please fix the screen shake not actually disabling screen shake for mining and such

north hill
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!feedback

hardy vigilBOT
north hill
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no shade, we just talk a lot 😂

mental phoenix
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hm ok, that's a bit disrespectful of the devs to have this channel then to like not read it, i don't get the point

north mesa
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they stopped using discord for feedback in... late 2023? early 2024? because live chat is the worst way to take feedback and the server got big

silk spire
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tbf this is a discussion channel, not a feedback channel, and yea itd be way too hard to keep track of things in a open chat like discord is

simple fable
hollow trout
simple fable
hollow trout
left cradle
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Didnt mean to send that! Sorry.

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I am having some issues with my Mac thoough, I have downloaded Steam to play Palia on my Mac but have not been able to access the game. Any suggestions?

tulip spire
mental phoenix
urban cosmos
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I know Lacie does check this channel from time-to-time, but also as CM, she handles a bunch of stuff both within the server and the work she does behind-the-scenes with S6.

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But also, I've seen this channel be super helpful, even if it's just sharing solutions each other found or resources other than stuff in-game to help each other be able to play. :3

proud fractal
# mental phoenix I guess I don't see a point in just sitting around and discussing accessibility ...

Many people gain comfort from knowing others experience the same issues as they do, hence the discussion channel. As Queen mentioned, there's also a lot of player side tricks and tips that help accessibility needs to the degrees they can. The formal feedback has always been the way feedback formally makes it to the team from players.

If discussing doesn't work for you, that's okay. If the feedback form doesn't work for you either, that's okay too. The formal pathways are our only (guaranteed) pathways to communicate needs to the development teams and any persons overseeing accessibility changes in Palia. Lacie does a great job of picking bits and pieces up when she can, but she can't capture everything that's talked about as desired or wanted. That's why a lot of folks recommend using the formal pathway so that the concerns do make it to S6.

north mesa
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yeah, there's a bunch of stuff in the pins but there's also newer versions of the tips discussed, warnings of new/changed dangers in game, letting each other know about improvements in game, and more. We help each other better than s6 could help us since there are so so many uncommon triggers and disabilities can intersect in unusual ways they could never detail accommodations for even if they had every possible feature in game

lyric mesa
north mesa
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There's also discussion of possible feedback items that leads to more detailed and expansive reports to s6

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oh and other players have come in asking how to make their plot generally, parties generally, and cooking parties specifically friendly for sensory issues which helps the sense of community in this discord and in the game - so lots of reasons to have a discussion channel like this one

ionic plume
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This channel led me to a (probably slightly obvious but my brain doesnt think of alternate methods very well) way of making cooking parties less overwhelming by having my station turned away or off to the side. I see everybody's timers popping in and out and can't always keep track of my bubble.

left mural
noble kelp
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I quit playing such a long time ago when requests for accessibility were ignored and more features that clashed with accessibility were being added more and more, but I've been regularly reading the accessibility discussions even after quitting. Nothing has changed. This company isn't showing any care towards accessibility still besides empty promises of a future they refuse to attempt to prove will happen. This chat honestly just placates us all so we stop being angry and demanding answers. This company falsely advertised inclusivity in their game, but does not include the disabled. It doesn't even include their original employees, who they laid off en masse

oak valley
tepid frigate
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There are a lot of flashes I have noticed with certain animations people doing not sure if it’s a visual bug or not?
As someone with epilepsy I find it very concerning and I’m not really sure what to do about it or where to put my concerns?
If possible to have a turn animations for like some things such as certain outfits people wear off or even weapons animations off that would be great
and would make playing the game easier for me and anyone else with epilepsy or photosensitivity thanks FoxLove

noble kelp
tulip spire
hardy vigilBOT
mental phoenix
molten swift
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I know there are devs who care about the accessibility issues but the teams are so siloed and clearly lacking an overarching prioritization of accessibility from a leadership position, which results in this situation. Sure plenty of games are just as inaccessible but most of those have better and persistent warnings for photosensitivity, but the real reason it hurts so much to see palia so inaccessible and why the anger is there for many if us is because palia was marketed to us as inclusive and they didn't actually deliver on that.

mental phoenix
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I submitted a bug report but honestly with the big 'we have a backlog you won't get a response' etc messages at the top, it really just felt like screaming into the void

molten swift
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I definitely appreciate everyone who is hopeful for change and is submitting new feedback forms on the myriad issues we experience here but I also understand the disappointment, anger, and burnout from players who have tried to raise concerns and advocate for themselves and others with very little result.

north mesa
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The accessibility section in patch notes and the mention of accessibility since may are a new thing, but it does come about 10 months after acquisition so its hard to say if that really is ownership prioritizing accessibility or just natural evolution that's long overdue.

We do have alternate pathing in temple of the roots with a dev saying that there are plans for how to do it for other temples that hasn't made it on the prioritization list.
A premium outfit vfx toggle is underway we've been told.
However new flashing elements are added every patch.

Hope and disillusionment both have grounds.

silent trail
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Hey

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I’m need suggestions

grizzled musk
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this channel is for discussing accessibility, not server status or maintenance. please wait for others to respond to you in general chat.

grizzled musk
gritty zinc
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palia is inclusive with bipoc and lgbtq+ representation, so my first impression for a fair while was awesome. but it became clear s6 doesn't want to make a game inclusive of people with disabilities, I tried to advocate and me and my friends submitted feedback, I've heard about people having seizures and they and their friends sending feedback
adding a toggle for flashing isn't gonna happen

gritty zinc
# tepid frigate There are a lot of flashes I have noticed with certain animations people doing n...

I have photosensitivity with a severe migraine disorder, I've tried for idk how many months to advocate for this.
unfortunately s6 is not going to change the flashing and please avoid the maji market and any bug lures. (sticky bombs are the worst
maji market has violent strobe lighting that changes colours rapidly and takes up the whole screen, and it's impossible to predict when a random player will make it happen.
this game is absolutely not safe for photosensitivity, there's a lot of other flashing effects and yeah like others said s6 doesn't care and keeps adding more flashing with almost every update

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also, avoid all social parties with other players, it's tradition for people to spam fireworks after events and cooking parties

molten swift
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Some people do hold accessibility minded cooking parties so while your last part is generally a good precaution you can find some groups who have shared concerns and/or are very mindful of them.

green solstice
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!trade

hardy vigilBOT
eternal rain
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not a good place to do the trading command, this chat is more for accessibility discussions

gritty zinc
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yeah it's absolutely frustrating that those of us who have the most barriers also have to do the most work to find safe groups to play with. Random groups, the lfg channels here, and the general party apps are definitely going to make finding a group like that harder, and even the people who mean well usually aren't well informed about what makes the game more or less accessible. This channel is one of the better places to ask if you need help in game with anything, and I am pretty sure some people do make other discord servers that organize events that prioritize these things, so finding those would probably help for anyone still playing and wanting to party up for fun or to get help with something.

I 100% understand being really jaded with s6 and very upset, I'm there too. I definitely understand not having the time or spoons to do the extra work though and if you just need to vent about this then ignore me, but I'll leave the message for anyone here who is still trying to enjoy the game in an accessible-as-possible manner and that it might help to do so.

fleet knot
gritty zinc
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yeah, it's basically like,
i made the mistake of getting really into this game and putting up with things that triggered severe migraines because I believed that s6 was serious about partnering with Minecraft for accessibility. and major parts of Minecraft accessibility for me are that you can turn off flashing and their settings for motion sickness. so I was dumb and ended up spending money and getting socially invested in communities too
and then s6 has not only been radio silent about flashing and photosensitivity hazards, but they've actively added more safety hazards consistently with almost every patch.

so now I just hope to help prevent other folks with photosensitivity from playing this game so they don't experience the same harms to health and the sadness and isolation feels that come with it being really obvious other people can enjoy things that we can't. and having to walk away from communities and feel left out often

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it's better to avoid the game entirely