yeah! considering that first seasons didn't have quests or areas
honestly rerunning a season can work well for the company (maybe)
since they won't have to animate, or make a lot of new cosmetics, and they can focus on improving gameplay and making experience better, perhaps improving realms as well instead of adding a new area
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Same here! But the problem lies in sustainability. If they keep adding new seasons (and spirits) with only the Traveling Spirit as the way to get old cosmetics, no one will ever be happy, and some spirits will hardly ever show up.
There needs to be some other solution to the growing spirit crowd, but the season reruns is the only truly plausible idea so far.
Maybe instead of rerunning them all, they'll be added to a Traveling Season pool after they hit a certain age?
But, if Traveling Seasons become a thing, candle economics will need a HUGE boost.
Yeah i think the og ults should not change at all, but during the 2.0 season have a whole different ults and cosmetics generally on similar fashion of the og season, but also offer a season pass to newer players who want both the OG season cosmetics and the 2.0 ones
I'm just happy so much nice talking about 2.0 and og ult return is happening 
if they ever re-release Prophecy, i have one single request: goddang please add a goddang option to skip the trial if weve already completed it, its the equivalent of having to encourage everyone in theater every single day just to use the dang thing 😭
Suffer for your ult it's a rite of passage for prophecy ult wanters 🗿
Runs to the looking for a group at flashing speeds.
I would gladly suffer through the trials again for the funny long ears mask
I'd do it solo too, like I always do

b. but im a f2p user that just loves fluff, i dont wanna suffer thro then everytime just for som cakes and a winged lad 
I had a friend who played a year before me, one time invited her to CR, turn out she haven't unlock any trials except water. At that moment i feel even more thankful for people help me with shortcut lol
the more i think about it, the more i understand we will probably never get
2.0
ive gotten the speedrun tricks except water cuz water is Special unfortunately ever since i created Doinkus and unlocked warp 
Was I the only one who enjoyed the trials? Fire was my jam, until the update that changed the candle colour. My screen is usually in dim/nighttime mode so it's made it even harder to see them. Still fun though.
Like idk a set of ideas ive had bouncing around for a Prophecy re-runs would be
1 doing quests based on how they all became prophets
2 expand the trials to have different route options
3 why is connected to sky path??? L o r e?
4 aka the silly one with lots of work: Moff chooses element Sensei and get a fancy associated outfit and is locked out of the other 3. Have a lil season about exploring the selected element
I enjoyed them too 🤝
i really want a lace umbrella, maybe parasol and only need one hand to hold 
I have never done any trial. My 2016 phone cant handle that level of gameplay lol.
I love water trial purely because you can slide across the water while faceplanted when you finish it !
I mainly do earth trial since it's the only one I really know how to do solo 💀 I always piggyback a friend in fire and hold the white candle out while they do skips
Yeah i really like water too, it's the only trial i felt confident to go solo. Bonus for becoming Jesus after you complete it lol
i hate water because im tiny 
The trials are even more fun when you finally master the chibi fall shortcut
Because you never have to do them again (except fire) 
Tall mask when
Water and air i have learned to enjoy the og way with friends now and the others i do glitch a little and enjoy it, but my first time through as a moff was so difficult i never entered it again for many months
im trying to master them but even with a well thought out guide of where they are at, i still cant do water and air 🥹
instead, i broke friendship with air oob shortcut, piggyback launcher is my new friend
never. suffer with the resize potions until you finally get kind-of-max-height-but-not-actually
I will forever be smoll. Not max min but very close 
Sorry asd
Air trials is pretty fun, only if your luck activated after 2 fails 
Also to anyone can glide in there, you're amazing 
does anyone want colored seasonal candles to be a thing again? like in 
im smalelst height and yet i still chibi

Guys, I'm a hypocrite. I said this but I haven't even touched the trials in beta. 😅
air is the only trial I can get in first try. I can barely ever get in water and earth 
I was almost max height in live then thought, hm maybe one more potion might give me max then I went chibi, never gotten back to my tall height since and I've spent over 300 AC on resize spells 
it's fine, it doesn't turn you into a hypocrite 
im the opposite, earth is easy-ish, air? nah
water? not a chance
a tale as old as time... it's happened to me too many times 
I haven't touched them either, I don't have the confidence to do them on mobile 
air can be actually easy as soon as you master the power of wind and make it play on your side 
Water and earth are a breeze for me, but I hate air and fire with a burning passion. You could never get me to do those regularly, only after Eden trips to get my wl back 
Hear me out- i think we need more challenging activities to do like the prophecy trials ,
Once the boredom kicks in with sky, trials have been a fun go to with friends as an activity with the excuse being we need wl or a fun way for wax
Imagine if those jellyfish hairs actually help you in trial, sometime i forgot to change it and nearly went blind
I would love resizes as iap in special events like once a year. I would dolphin the heck out of them.
I skip air trial because when it first came out on live it was the only trial that made me rage-quit LMAO
now I only ever short-cut it
None of my friends feel the same with me, but i did fire trial weekly for three months
same here 
New wl but you actually have befriend them, and convince them to become one with you
We kinda do that after eden tho
Didn't some TGC staff get stuck on it for a really long time too 😭
I'd believe it. It was awful.



Air trial takes so much skill and patience with oneself,

Hermit valley tho.
My hand feel like jelly when it come to air lol
i've become more and more familiar with the trials as i've needed to do them all solo during my winged light runs, fire is the only one where i struggle enough to make me want to quit but i managed to do it without a map a couple days ago 
Imagine doing air trial right after it came out, before the extra checkpoints, bug fixes, and other adjustments 
never again
Absolutely not!
Sounds awful
Still remember how there was this hole in the middle of waiting on the floating planks, more than half of us thought that was the place we needed to land and got stuck there
Hear me out... We collab with a bird sanctuary, and a % of the iap goes to them. Meanwhile we get birb wings and more cute hairs.
man I really hope that's what this year's DoN is, but they have a strong ocean theme going right now 
More valley Season 
I'm hoping for an Isle season. It feels overdue :(
Okay id love a krill nesting ground area, that is if krill are not in fact ai created in sky lore ofc
(just thought of that while thinking how getting our bird aviary back would be great)
i need updoot to get excited, burnout is creeping up again 
Inb4 stability patch. 3ds vibes.
breaks in beta content suck 
If Isle feels overdue a season what about prairie??
sanctuary came before prophecy and it hasn't had another one since!
Both are overdue for a new season 
I forgot flight technically isn't a prairie season
I just want isle for more potential lore 
New realm before a season in isle or prairie just to be madlads.
Valley gets all the love with seasons having 3 seasons in valley (yes including aurora)
what about a joint isle-prairie season that takes place between them and provides lore for both 
I forget flight is in any realm/aka a forest season
alright, fellers, I'm off to bed. night! (or morning...
)
Love this
I was gonna say that Prairie has been the focus of something since Sanctuary with Days of Nature, while Isle hasnt had anything since Prophecy, but... Isle got some attention during Aurora, so... Ig they're even xD
The cold pinger! Like a comic super villan.
im having my hopes for prairie rather than isle, but I would be happy with isle too
either one of them please!! mostly prairie because light creature content but either one works!!
im still thinking about my idea of a season taking place in 2 realms at ones .....
I want an Isle, Prairie, or Forest season 
valley season round 4 
yeah !!!!! for me it's either isle or prairie. i will be actually disappointed if its gonna be any other realm 
i'd love for a quiet, relaxing prairie season after the back to back shattering-aurora-remembrance sadness punch to the gut. like a quiet little meadow with a little waterfall and lots of flowers. just something chill after everything
I was extremely unfortunate with my first 30 friends. 20 were foreign before the translate feature existed, 3 were difficult people on 24/7 and bought everything and were the neediest people in Earth, and then the other 6 quit. I only have 1 friend left, and they barely come on
but if i had to make a tierlist of what i want most, it would be
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6
<-- stinky
Aurora wasn't sad! I mean i didn't understand any of the cutscenes... But You can't eat money oh nyo and queendom where super upbeat.
Why is Valley stinky 😭
let’s not label them as crazy
because we had enough seasons in valley. 


for the most part, aurora was upbeat but it did have its sad and heavy moments, especially with the concert's transition from the seed showing the war in wasteland directly to through the eyes of a child focusing on death and despair.
I cant even fathom the riot that would unfold if they even hinted at another valley season.
the very first quest made me want to cry the first time i saw it
honestly if the next season is gonna be in neither
or
i will start creating robotic krills and will send them over to the realm of the new season
Was just jk btw, aurora is indeed very emotional. But in a good way for me... Remembrance on the other hand didn't do much for me.
this is a tiny bit random, but the first quest's song was what made me realizes the little stones next to spirits were in fact graves
i had a hunch about them, but that confirmed it
This is the reason why I want friendship fragments to take the place of candles in the friendship tree from doing things like opening two-player doors or four player doors or a player puzzle or sitting at a bench with someone which would cause the bench to produce friendship fragments. I want it so bad because it's so frustrating when a friend chooses a cosmetic over your friendship. That happened to me with another person. They chose the rainbow Cape over upgrading our friendship and I was really hurt by that.
who up running far away 
let's run off the world someday... together
PSA: don't microwave metal or your microwave will explode violently
I do hope they do something about the friendship system.
In a game about socializing, they sure make it a struggle to decide between cosmetics and friends.
And i will of course sacrifice constellations of friends for an owl hair.
someone with culture i see 
yeah it is a bit weird that in order to become better friends with someone, you have to pay to unlock those features. especially when getting to the top takes 117 candles and 26 ascended candles. whats up with that. why do i have to spend all my money to do a silly dance with my friend
Spend your life savings to do a silly little dance to avoid silly little tasks 
I don't want season upgrades but I do want season reruns tied to days of events. Upgraded Seasons would be a terrible idea only because it would create a cycle of people wanting ultimates again and it doesn't really fix the problem. Just like owl hair is no longer attainable for people who didn't get it during performance. I personally am against the idea of anything being exclusive to in-app purchases however I understand from a business perspective why there are in-app purchases. I just feel like old should be obtainable after the season like every other item is excluding collaborations which are just a different story
Because buying candle packs is cool, all the cool kid are doing it.
imma sneep yall, wishin beta a nice calm chatter moment

Inb4 doot drops and beta explodes.
i love this idea it'd be amazing

makes me sad that between unlocking Friend Activities in the Friendship Game and getting like half a ts, the latter is the more common option
friend tree stuff should be unlocked through time or if both of you agree to it
ping, oops 
I really wish it didn't cost candles, otherwise I'd unlock more tiers with my close friends 
I've only had one person where we unlocked all level 1 emotes + quite a few level 2 emotes and warp, and I'm no longer friends with them sadly... I don't wanna have people spend candles on our friendship out of fear that might happen again, I wish they would just gradually unlock as you spent more time together 
💪
I mean, instead of ac for unlocks, it should be hearts or time.
More friends, more hearts> more friends.
ACs are such an slow grind that it literally hurts to use them.
Did you mean round 5 because of Rhythm?
bonus to upgrades being unlocked through agreement: you can skip upgrades you don't want
like maybe i don't care about fistbump or headpat makes my friend uncomfortable, so we can just ignore them and still get high-level emotes like duo dance and piggyback
Yeah I guess that counts cuz I see them flying home in valley
maybe like round 4 of new season place
wait i forgot aurora doesnt rlly have its new area, its just located in coliseum
we're gonna get frostbite with all these valley seasons 
I need more season related to music
The only person who's upgraded their entire tree with me like that is someone who I'm still close with, but he chose that over wanting to get items he really wanted (since I didn't have enough candles at the time). 
I still feel a bit guilty about it.
Only if the sheet guitar hero mechanic is overhauled.
I can't even.
That's why I feel so strongly about a new currency for friends. Imagine opening a four-player door with a a bunch of strangers and becoming friends because you were able to get friendship fragments. I feel like this would also make a lot more sense from a gameplay perspective as it would encourage people to open doors and work together instead of chibi falling or glitching into areas
Non related but i got an owl player in my list once, after awhile i don't see them anymore, even though i didn't block them, large chance they gave their account away and block everyone lol. Still wonder where they're now.
Owls are always related in my book.
Season of Society:
for some reason I usually avoid friending people that wear

i cant explain why, but i feel bad for avoiding that 
For people who like me, prefer to be alone most of the time, and just have hard time to socialize this wouldn't mean too much for me. But yeah it would do well for social feature
That makes sense but sky is a social game at its heart.
Body language social rather than words
Hey!!!! I wear the twin bowl hair. Why?!
I don’t care about the owl hair much
maybe thats because my ex friend was wearing valley elder hair, and my relationship with that friend wasnt very nice and even pretty toxic .. and like perhaps because of how both valley and owl/peng hair is popular they kinda have the same vibe for me
I like pengu hair more than owl hair tbh 
I really hope they add big social areas with no visibility filter and chat enabled by default whenever they drop the PC version
Oh.. i understand. That's ok. No need to relieve toxic stuff.
Maybe don’t compare other people looks like your ex friends? That’s kinda make other people feel bad 
I cant help it 
i dont compare them, just the vibe of my friend is stick to the items now
i understand if someone wears it it doesnt mean they are the same, its just how it is for my mind
Some people do be like that... I can't date people with nose piercings for example... It's complicated.
i think a good idea would simply just to have different friendship tiers still be unlockable, just without the currency attached to it. one friend wants to unlock the next level, the other can agree or disagree to it. there shouldn't be a choice between "should i buy this item i want, or should i prioritize my friendship with this person?" because friendship shouldn't be about buying affection with money, and the game shouldn't have to force decisions between two core aspects of gameplay.
friendship isn't about emptying your pockets to become better friends with someone, and friendship shouldn't be judged by how many tiers on the tree you have unlocked. if i meet someone in prairie lobby for the first time and become friends, we shouldn't have to climb the entire friendship tree just to have a fun little dance together, we shouldn't have to spend days worth of candlerunning just to become better friends.
Oh crap i thought this is general chat lol
Some people can't help it, certain things are just bad reminders of people they associate with said object 
when beta has no updates, this channel turns in general 
Dayum
lurks in How's the WAFO going? 
And sometimes we get bonked by a mod.
So many Elmos in beta
SO MANY ELMOS
when people experience something upsetting, they will often avoid anything that reminds them of that upsetting event or person. even if that thing in itself isn't inherently bad. if someone has a bad experience with a cat, that can make them avoid cats, but that doesn't mean that they think all cats are bad, it's just a reminder of that bad experience. that's all 
Same with Lie, i used to be scared of Link, Forest's elder and Crab Whisperer hair because they're my ex fav. Kind of a jumpscare to see anyone with it lol.
Hmm alright, just hope they’ll get over the fear, like how I get over the fear of Sonic since I watched too much sonic.exe
honestly i like this chat (and beta section in general) regardless of the topic
its not chaotic and fast as the rest of the server and i see same people stick around, which is nice
Once in beta, always in beta.
Fear can be fixed, but not my phobia, fear of balloons
dabloons?
oh yeah 💀 sanctuary ults were also a jumpscare to me
jumpscare is probably the silliest but the best way to describe it, you lit the person and get slapped with flashbacks
I don't like crab call because it reminds me of the person who brought me into sky, it makes me feel sad and guilty for not staying friends with them 
I’m horrified of ballloons, and idk how but they freaks me out I could cry
I think its okay to associate things subconsciously, but important to become aware of our formed biases due to our own trauma we have experienced and try our best to work on that so we dont spread hurt the way we were hurt 
i avoid this game i used to play that isn't even a bad game at all, i just can't play it anymore because of a bad experience i had with a friend who used to always play the game with me. so things like that often suck because it makes you avoid things you used to like a lot 
And also
is adorable!
Dora hair indeed
I don’t have this experience but some of my friends just, disappeared on sky, never online again
But theirs still chances to find another friend 
I wish you to never experience anything alike to our experience 
I tried to finish every elders constellation and the first thing i said about the hairs is "Damn, these kinda ugly 💀 " No shade really, im was just surprise how the texture look off since i am used to end-2021 style 
Same
and ive also experienced friends who i was once close to suddenly poof and occasionally come online once every 3 months or so but things are no longer the same between us
RIP the constantly changing friendships in our little sky lives
It is sad to lose old friends. Sometimes they do you the kindness of telling you they're quitting and you can cherish your last time together, but other times you give hugs and kisses thinking they'll be on again and they just never do.
Me too, I have trauma from 5th grade because a guy popped them behind my head on purpose because he knew I had ADHD and hypersensitivity to sound. Fifth graders can be cruel
I only like it when combined with the rabbit mask tho.
Otherwise cat hair for life.
Yooo that also happened at 5th grades
But now I’m in college, people respect my fear and they bring most of the balloons that were decorated inside the classroom and pop them outside 
i actually have this friend who comes on every few months, warps to me, and plays with me as if she didn't disappear for several months in a row, as if we were hanging out just yesterday 
Trust me I was the same way for awhile with people who like a song that sent me into a panic attack. You can't really help it, the mind is awful. It takes awhile to cope with it.
(I'm good now, I just need to blast music over that specific song whenever I hear it.)
Thats so cute! I definitely think seeing friends every so often can still feel like time never passed, i think when dynamics change it is more than just distance through time at play fs

More cozy than cozy.
I'm never gonna shut up about how much I care about Beta and the people in here. 
Y'all have created core memories for me.
Same

yeah same for me
im going through a struggle of needing a close group i feel belonged to and beta section of this server helps a little
!! even if there is a convo about sky economics again
Love and peace till another food related cape drops, then everyone loses their mind.
the cape looked like salami okay 😭
I actually think our discussions here bring us closer together no matter how challenging it can be

anyway beta testing discussion chat im currently eating fruit salad and i think something there is spoiled
yeah
It would be so cool if we could have a backpack button or carry things in a section of our emote list, because I would love to carry multiple things with me on my adventures! It would be fun to be able to bring my boat and my harp so that I can play the harp on my boat! Or my table and seat cushion as an extra seat for a friend!
It sound gourmet if you say its fermented. 
Extra flavor !
It will never escape salami allegation
also Lie are you okay? 

Do you want my popcorn instead 😭
Spit it out lie
c'mon 🤲
Then eat the popcorn
I'm drinking several months expired apple juice right now 
today beta eats expired things
Apple cider you say.
I am trying to bribe myself to finish my immunology notes with the promise of curry 😭 I am hungry. Two slides left
you can do it!!!!😭😭😭
I appreciate the beta community as well. I do have a few concerns about certain individuals who put others down and stir the pot or make a big deal about things that don't matter, but overall I love this group and there's nothing like it
FINISH THOSE SLIDES CMON YOU CAN DO IT
THE FASTER YOU DO THE SLIDES THE QUICKER BETA WILL GET THE NEW SEASON /hj
I am constantly eating expired food ! Not just a today thing <3
Beta update when?
glad someone shares an interest of mine
Disclaimer: please don't eat expired food.
In less than a minute 
well, what will never be expired for you to consume is my beta hearts 🤲
i tend to take food up my room so large chance most thing i ate was on the brink of inedible 💀
But cheese…
~~I'm saying this but I'm the person who was supposed to turn something in a week ago but got ✨ sick ✨ ~~ 😭
Now how am I supposed to be motivated
oh no I'm sick guys no last slide. 
Cheese can expire too.
we don't talk about cheese.
But what if it tastes good still despite being 2 years past the date
Honey 🍯
HURRY UP CMON CMON
THE BETA UPDATE IS READY YOU NEED TO FINISH YOUR SLIDE FOR ITS RELEASE!!!!!!!!!!!
Also it would be so cool to be able to to take Sky into the forest with me and find real life spirits like Pokémon Go!
Honey can't expire. I think? Idk.
the next waiting room must contain H O N E Y, because it can't go bad. we will be able to eat it forever. with 🧇
raw honeycomb asmr
It doesn't expire but depending on how you store it then it can get spoiled, I think?
Accidentally ate a wasp that the bee killed
It can crystalize but then just make whipped honey 🤲
Yeah, google says that as long it is stored probably, it never goes bad.
it still will be safe to eat(iirc), but will change it's appearance
like Rae said, it can crystalize
The more you know!
Man I really hope the next season is better than Remembrance. If I dont get hooked, guess I will skip a season for the 1st time in 2.5 years... 😭
anyway everything is getting blurry despite that im wearing glasses, which means i probably should sleep
good night/day, beta skykids!!!
remember that you should not eat expired food 
Guys do you have this "fear of miss" in Sky?
Whee guys curry time I finished 
My dad accidently drop alcohol on tofu and i ate it, next thing i know i was blackout and screaming. It wasn't even coated lol, just a small droplet
🎵You cannot eat: Money, rocks, dirt, grass, sand, water, patch notes, moderators or developers, sky kids, Oreo, plastic, silicone, expired food, remotes, batteries, wax, styrofoam, worms, spirits, Skybot oh no
Now the beta update can come out 
(In all seriousness good job (wheeze))
to be frank i couldn't bear spicy food when i was a kid so maybe that's why
More than fearing what i could miss, i fear things that i already missed.
🎵Feed me cheap stuff, feed me moths, feed me doots and send me prayers
4 days til a year of the first testing of Season of Perfomance 
DOOT

Season of Performance was magical
Shattering was magical||ly painful||
Performance was 11/10 I'm so glad it was my moth season
For me its the best season of 2022, cant change my mind XD
But technically Season of Aurora wins because of a little concert BAHAHAHA
4k people dancing around was insane tho.
This is true
season of performance is my favorite season 
For those who played Sky in 2021. What was your favorite season?
I only played half of 2021 but if you’re talking ab quests storyline, then def tlp. If you’re talking seasonal area then flight
Me: Quits Sky
TGC: The sequel of Season of Sanctuary is now in development.
Me: a
I love tlp season area, such a relaxing place... Wish i had the cape too.
Me patiently waiting for a Valley season 💀 /J
yknow what I'm upgrading basic emotes in beta I have nothing better to do with my 500 candles rn
Take a look at this chart of the season distribution:
Isle:

Prairie: 
Forest:

Valley:

Wasteland:

Vault:
🏮
Eden: 
Seasons grouped based on location, if in more than one location grouped by theme
Tlp, mainly it's my first season 
Valley has gotten a few seasons. Tell that to Prairie! X,D
Forest + valley has the same amount of seasons compared to all other 5 realms combined
Prairie and Eden 💀💀💀, Isle, Vault, Wasteland 🫠, Forest and Valley 🤑🤑🤑💸
I'm okay with any realm except gw... I hate that place.
I love GW and I uber people through it all the time like a rollercoaster. 
I want golden wasteland season 😦
You guys are just both krills and a trench coat admit it or dark water addicts
i can never beat 200 crabs in gw 
No please... It's too scary!
I'm the person who will relive Pleaful Parent for the people who get too scared to do it. They get to chill by the bonfire while I go out and do the spirit myself. 
theoretically there is no defined location for the 4 seasons
, as they take place on all maps.
IMO, nothing scarier than became a shattering moth (that's me). Enchantment and Abyss weren't scary at all (again, in my opinion)
The worst thing is that gw seems to be pretty relevant lore wise, so more seasons in it are a given...
GW is a goldmine for lore after Aurora's concert uncovered the dirt mound.
this is why we live like heathens, stealing from the trees of Eye of Eden 
I don't like gw purely because the 3 cutscenes to even get INTO the area annoy me
I know you can skip them but I still don't like em 
You can and will eat the sand oh yes.
mmmmmmmm Rocks
Tasty
Idk if it's been mentioned cuz there's a lot of backreading, but have y'all seen the new dev update channel? Hopefully that solves the communication bones we got to pick a a bit
prophecy, but my favorite 2021 season was dreams 
this, and Vault cutscene in every elevators...
Auto-skip cutscenes when?
I saw that but instantly forgot about it because it's not in the channels I have showing 
I started in late 2021 on LPP but as much as I like it, my favorite was probably Flight
I don't know how to feel about it yet... Will have to wait for an update example to see how useful it is.
Okay beta... it's time.
I'm finally reliving all of the seasonal spirits I haven't done in months.
I still need to relive so many spirits, but I'm too lazy 
Alexa, just give Prairie Elder a new season instead!
(Prairie Rerun WHEN)
It was you, wasn't it, @shy ore?
I haven't logged into sky today... You know you are tired of cring when the discord is more entertaining.
I already crashed trying to get into the Theatre 💀
Yes, but Belonging Table is in forest where the guide is, and Rhythm was literally a winter season. Lightseekers was all blue and the ult was an umbrella, and gratitude had all animal masks which fits the prophecy theme
Does anyone know if the Aurora wings will ever work properly on beta?
Probably won't tbh
We can at least visit night coliseum but I don't think we'll be able to relive the concert

I'm leaving free energy shared memories around Beta again. 
anyone guess the new season or day of natural will start first
i bet one heart the season will come first 
i bet 3 that i dont even have that it'll start in 3-5 weeks
i'll bet that days of nature comes before the season
we'll see who wins this match 
I bet new szn will come end of this week or early next week 
I bet the new season will come out between today and December 31st 
mike if nature comes before season i'll send u that heart 
If it came out in December tgc would be Very Late.
i think it'll be a long while before testing for the season starts, i'm prepared for another beta drought
and likewise peep, if the season starts first i'll send you one as well 
30 days left on LIVE seasons will be our BETA prophecy
I bet the next update will have ||bug fixes and improvements in it
||
Daylight prairie temple it's a place that got a little rework and not many people talk about it, I'd love for more places to get a change.

When Prairie Elder needs construction workers for redesigns
Maybe some underground area in the temple? A crystal cave could be fun
oh i think the prairie villages should get some changes! i think some concept art showed the actual village beneath the clouds, it would be really cool to see what lies below them. right now it's not so much of a village as much as a cloudy archipelago
sanctuary expansion but finally SEA based season
i’d love to see that 
i hope tgc will return that boat in prairie (now it has no textures)
in sky light awaits people used to travel on it and chat..
Ah ha, but the invisible boat is so fun

I agree tho, they should add it as an actual feature again
we need it👁️👁️
Invis boat is one of my favorites. I would love to see some rendition of it come back. 
invisiboat 
@calm drum I mean just like firstly i co7ld see it being v hard to code in and second, it could create chaos bc you’re “switching” around cosmetics from one player to another. So you might temporality gift something to the other person but what might happen is the item might end up missing from your closet entirely and then showing up in the receiver’s closet longer than the time you set
Get what I mean?
Ahhh yea I get that, I hadn’t considered that cause I don’t have experience in any sort of coding 😅 thank you for explaining!
continuing from #beta-screenshots-videos and specifically about the "what if it was like spells" comment
This input is entirely about ult items since those would also work with the proposed function. I feel like a lot of the problems with ult exclusivity would be solved if way more of them were brought back as spells, even if it was for way more AC than resize potions. That way they're still exclusive but people who didn't get it would still be able to use the items.
i know that personallu, it would really solve my feral nature when it comes to the creature-based capes that have been ults so far (sanctuary and shattering) so i'm sure it would help for other people
bonfire is a spell so why shouldn't the other ults be available as spells
every day i dream about an assembly bugle spell
you can kind of use it when it shows up on harmony hall music challenge rotation
and other times when event spirits invite you to play with em 
but also when will the other triumph instruments drop, huh
yeah it's been like a year
In less than one minute
hoping for another prairie and eden season tbh 
PRAIRIE SWEEP 
PRARIE SWEEEEEEEP 
ALSO HELLO!! 
GOOD MORNING OR EVENING TO YOU VAL!! 


U guys want me to make Splatfest before BETA update release!
I’ve just seen a post on instagram saying the invisible cape will come to live soon, but I swear I’ve seen it said somewhere before that it would never come to live? 🤔
hey , about those manta and crab plushies , will they remain after the season is ended or not?
Morning Guys...
It's official, I'm ready for a new season, excited about it?!
Ye, and I'm helding a Splatfest at #beta-screenshots-videos for fun and guess which realm will be the next seasonal area 
I hope is Prairie 
Would you guys be disappointed if it were another Vault season but one of the cosmetics or Ultimate Gifts were a cosmic manta cape?
i would 🙌
You would be disappointed?
yes cuz i cant get ults and most of the ults arent my taste 😂
Ah, I see.
i'd get excited for the cape but then upon buying it realise it'll just be collecting dust because i only wear 1 outfit 
i think id be... reaaaaaaally mad if they made a cape that was extra fluffy and in this beautiful brown-beige color under a season pass/ult because thats a dream cape and since i cant afford it, itd be like "there goes my dreams" 
we've waited so long for a cosmic manta ult, so we can wait a little longer. I'd prefer if we didn't get two vault seasons back to back. For me, it would take away some of the "specialness" of the new season. I'd love if we get a cosmic manta cape after the next season though 
A manta cape would be cool, although I'm more excited if there's a chibi season with several chibi masks with especial habilities on 'em
because my aesthetic is like... fluff, nature, animal-esque, but it has to be a specific style and feel, hence why i dont like about 99% of the cosmetics in the game because they all have a specific style that im not a fan, and the only items that exist that sorta represent me are... two specific capes, one of which i was lucky someone gifted it to me 😂
im imagining the many spots to chibifall in the seasonal area now 
right???
We only have one chibi mask, and we can't match it with everything without loosing something in the outfit.
Guess if we could use a chibi mask matching with other masks like the shields, etc...
Don't we have a manta cape?
Yeah, from shard season... But it's white lol
and sanctuary
We do, but no COSMIC manta ones.

i wish chibi mask was like.. a permanent height spell tbh, like you could switch from normal to chibi at any time, and it wouldnt occupy the mask area, allowing you to switch to any mask you like
same with huge height, a permanent huge spell that you could switch to at any time you wish
because it doesnt make sense, to me at least, that the chibi height has to be tied to a mask and permanently occupy the mask area, removing any possibility of keeping both the chibi height and a mask you like
imagine right after splatfest we all find out its another valley season 
I think the reason why we don't get permanent chibi/tallest height spells is to create a larger variety in heights. otherwise 90% of all players would be one of the two heights and nothing in-between
my poor valley ocs not being able to sleep because of the amount of skykids entering the realm for another season 
i meant the huge-huge height, tho i mostly see folks using the normal height than chibi 🤔
idk i just wish i could both be chibi and walk around with a rose on my mouth
I envy chibis because they are shorter than me (I have shortest possible height without the mask), but I'm not wearing chibi mask because I don't like chibi anatomy (and the fact that i cant wear my silly little masks..)
I'm certain that Isle, Prairie, or Forest are up next to test for a new season. Valley can't be getting this many seasons, it's kinda unfair.
my height is close to chibi because I prefer how pants look on short skykids
i love valley but gosh i want to see another season anywhere but there
That's what I'm saying!
I think we all agree we love chibi, but we should be able to use more things while we are chibi's
im already at smallest height but i prefer chibi because its the height i like, but i just wanna use another mask at the same time 
Then again, I wouldn't mind another Wasteland season.



wasteland season more like krill season 
neither!! i'd only mind if the entrance is far away 
I want prairie, but it might be something else considering how
literally looked like Prairie (that moth me was confusing prairie and wind paths)
#PrairieSWEEP 
but give me prairie season (isle is fine too)
I just hope is not at valley. Anywhere else it's fine
i remember thinking flight was prairie when the first teaser dropped
why? because of the grass LOL
I get Valley is meant to be huge but cmon man. 😭
yeah that's also true. please be not valley 
I'd still prefer isle or prairie. will be pretty upset if it's anything else 
the only time valley isnt a boreroom for me is if im WLR and using a specific route pattern 
valley gets the arts-themed seasons so maybe it the theme is something different we're safe
honestly my brain would love a isle/prairie season but my eyes would absolutely hate me

well, abyss was pretty bright compared to the rest of wasteland
so who knows what we will get
plus prophecy was mostly a dark area
i still hope for a settings update to remove th4 excessive bloom and brightness because as much as i love sanctuary, its given be sickness once 
abyss is the lag central for me lmao
makes my phone so hot that itd be great to roast som grandma buns 👌👌
omg my ipad can do that too, but with any realm!! 
gonna fr set up a camping trip just to roast some light buns
mine... hates sanctuary, hates abyss, hates the hotspring, specially the hotsprings 😂
real, it makes me so mad that they literally dont have shoulders
yeah, I like being short but I don't wanna have child-like anatomy
isle season!! beautiful location and aviary to the people!!! ho ho ho ho!
Grassy Isle my beloved 💕
tbh I like that shortest mask is restricted to chibi mask otherwise it'd just be expansion of maskless void faces everywhere ngl
it's demotivating to look at 
I was doing a no-forge challenge and accidentally hit the button while flying 
TGC please let us hide the forge button 
I swear if the next season isn't in isle with at least one little grassy patch....
i loved maskless once but now i never wear it because we have so many cool-looking masks and just decide to not wear one 😭 i've started to really appreciate masks and base-game hairstyles recently
I recently combo'd orca mask (performance qg tree 50 candles one) and basegame free ponytail and I was like my god
it's amazing
omg i'm wearing that mask with the dismayed hunter's hair rn 👀
orca mask goes with literally any hairstyle ngl
super versatile
i love the modest dancer mask its like a little birdie
I love they used different eye shapes in performance though. I really hope they bring that back in future masks
it also looks so happy heheh
i'm also wearing chuckling scout's mask a lot currently
but more masks that aren't flat masks because we've had enough of them for a while lmao 
The different eye shapes is really nice 
I hope we have super diverse cosmetics like what performance had
performance in general was just
A masterpiece
I wish I was there for it
I did a count yesterday and including ults, there's 29 animal masks out of 87 overall masks
a third 
I don't even know why I use maskless tbh
it goes well with my beta skid, ig¿? But I wish there was more masks with a defined face shape rather than the standard flat mask because I don't like flat masks
I want more masks with big snouts like Anubis mask, greeting shaman mask, etc
Season of Animals and there’s no capes, no pants, just 12 animal masks 
.....a mask made of capes
(other way round I guess)
cape made of just masks like you're the suspicious seller in zelda
did you count the performance masks? i feel like each of them should only count as half an animal mask 😭
(suspicious seller laugh.mp4)
I want a big backpack cosmetic
and to make my sky kid look like a cool traveler or somethin
tiny merchant!! 
Performance masks all look bird like to me tbh coz they all have some shape to them rather than being flat
i know they're supposed to be resemble penguins but they're more penguin-inspired than truly animal-shaped
unfortunately performance ones are technically animal masks cuz the markings do match penguins in general 😔
which is what makes them so good and versatile because the white of the masks goes with all hairs since they're white as well
I did also come to a realisation while counting that shattering was technically also a creature based season it's just that literally everything except the masks were creature based 
I need something to match with the flower mask from Shattering tbh. More black pants or dark plant based pants.
(Before you say FRANTIC STAGEHAND ROBE I wasn’t here 😭)
Absolutely!! Like cooler colored pants in blue purples and blacks— I would love more pants diversity my wardrobe is stale 
AND I WASNT EITHER DONT WORRY 
Yes please 
ayo there's the gay pants coming up 
just wait 3 years maybe the spirit will return as a ts :))) ||
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Frantic's robe is a really nicely colored outfit tbh I wish there was more outfits with darker colors like it
I never use it anymore but I still love and appreciate those pants since they're from one of my favorite spirits
krill pants
become edgelord
one thing that slightly bothers me is that there's so many different shades of black and they rarely match
pairing stagehand's pants with the little prince capes usually doesn't work
Gay flower gay flower
but pairing modest dancer's pants with slouch's cape is actually the greatest thing ever and I will die on this hill
source: I drew it like 10+ times
modest's pants goes with all the TLP capes ngl
it feels like theres so many shades of every color and none of them look right
the birthday hats dont go with the seed pants which dont go with the nintendo cape which doesnt go with the peeking postman pants etc etc etc
I think the only dark cape I can manage to pair frantic's pants with is the shattering dark plant cape
but then again, I really don't have many dark capes so idk 
I must try this now 
oh,so long time to wait new season....
during the lighting bug I paired geographer's cape with stagehand pants and that worked extremely well
then just have the pleading child scarf + bereft hair + fortune rabbit mask
it works well because the orange of the scarf ties together with the paint rag on stagehand robe, and also links together with the orange on the rabbit mask
it's three colour dominant with dark body + cape > white head > orange accent
which is to say /turns the colour theory nerding off/
when things don't match, it's about the connecting colours in other outfit parts to make it work together 
i just dont wanna study color theory just to make an outfit where the cosmetics don't clash with each other
sky consistently gives you shades that are difficult to match with other colors
im just glad my favorite cape and pants go together (seed pants and red scarf)
. . .
I’ve been using the Aurora orange pants and the Veteran cape because I didn’t wanna copy my friends looks by using the Wounded Warrior pants 😭
im somewhat glad that the fluff items are all white/beige with a brown-ish tone so its easy-ish to match
I love seeing chibis wear the vet cape because it's like they're wearing a tent 
for all the grumbling about this season's cosmetics i have a TON of people on my constellation wearin em
including me
: no matter how old i get i think ill always change up my outfit for some new cosmetics 
Hello beta people. Where would I go to find information on the next season. Following this current season in vault.
Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live!
Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well 
no one has any information on it! It hasn’t been revealed 
Thank you.
The old juggle bug and the fact that TS possibly no longer exist makes me think that the Seasonal Spirits will stay in some tombstones scattered around your origin maps and will be able to be bought for normal candles and hearts in a while.
what do you think?
that’s quite a specific guess! What makes you think they’ll be tombstones?
In the juggle bug he's on his tombstone
Possibly! Anything that involves a Ts rework is a win in my book
hopefully one comes soon!
how to become a beta tester guys
i love the veteran cape’s shape sm i wish the blue abyss cape had that fullness to it
also ive seen murmuring abt it so i wanna ask- do you think the ts system is potentially getting an overhaul?
No, personally
Keeping hopeful really, not too sure! But I would love that!
I hope it gets an overhaul but I kinda doubt it will right now
not sure if it will get one now but it has to get one eventually. the ts system we have right now was designed when the ts pool was relatively small and I don't think it works with the huge ts pool we have rn.
i wanna know what's up with the home statue on the ts spot at home tho
I need a TS overhaul because at this rate Shattering TS orbs probably won’t show up for a few years because of how behind seasons are due to repeats 💔
we rly do need a change there are so many spirits
Question: SKY BETA is back? I want my capeless cape right now 
y'all know dang well there isn't gunna be a change
This update in the beta is the update that is most making me curious about the game, which will change and be added.
if we're just gonna accept that it won't change then it won't change, easy as that
Permission to DM?
TGC after making the next 3 seasons in Valley 
yk what would be fun
a season of traveling where the ts system slowly gets a change to ease us all into it
aghhhjhhhhh i just want new season testing
remembrance is getting old now can’t we just have something whimsical and silly
||Rhythm 2||
This is all beta players by the time a season begins in live
For some reason i've been thinking of Days of Mischief, i've always loved Halloween! What sort of cosmetics would you like to see next?
As a kid I loved dressing as a vampire, but we already have a bat cape which sort of matches that theme.
I feel like ghost themed items could be interesting! I mean the world of Sky IS filled with spirits already so maybeeeee...
(Gen chat and cozy chat ignored me, so i'm going to try here even though it looks very, very empty)
did someone hear something?
An ghost cape made out of the same stuff as the Aurora wings would be cool 
spider shoulder pet 
Gonna say this again, just a plain white sheet that has holes for the eyes. So we can be ghosties
Krill shoulder pet or top of the head.
i used to be a pumpkin quite often for halloween when i was younger, i think pumpkin themed stuff aside from like that one hairstyle we already have would be cute
like a pumpkin cape similar in shape to the shattering jelly cape would be funny, and maybe a carved pumpkin mask 
Or a krill wrapped around your neck!
That would be awesome!
I want an in game version of my irl baby krill plush
concert napkins but real 👻
mischief? perfect excuse to introduce MORE BATS
jkjk i think sea monster stuff would be really cool, like the creature from the black lagoon but legally distinct 
Squeak gets to morph into a bat in Mischief 2023 
Bats of light ? 
frankenstein bolts for sky kids
i would love a mad science themed mischief event actually
I hope TGC is writing this down
Let's talk Days of Nature, it should be next in the queue! What sort of cosmetic concepts do people have for it? Maybe sun themed cosmetics to represent solar energy? 
evil tesla coils! lab coat cape! goggles that go on your head that are a head accessory! frankenstein bolts! test tubes! aaaaah
Dolphin styled cosmetics, because let's be real. If we don't get Days of Nature in Treasure Reef what's the point? There's lots of sea life that are endangered, and I'm pretty sure dolphins aren't endangered but if they are then it's going to good causes. That, or any other endangered species of sea life.
How about whale themed cosmetics? But not any ordinary whales, the big sky "whale" that you see in like 3 locations! In the world of Sky that creature seems pretty endangered since it appears very rarely!
Even better.
plushies
i just wanna say
i wish that once u put them down you could pat or brush them 
or like
a cuddle button
@agile patrol
It's not about the buildings, they have completely different atmospheres between both version, if someone wants to visit the GW social hub version they'll have to rocket
ah, well then you're right
I keep forgetting this channel exists
save the bees!! bee themed days of nature 
maybe a beekeeper outfit 👀
if you guys care for different charities, send em to #live-feedback or #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
else we'll just get...sanc addition for ocean part 23948029384 
hey i put in for xerces society
if there's two things tgc loves, it's sanctuary and valley 
I remember in Season of Gratitude and Lightseekers
for you to get the Ultimate gift, you needed to wait for the Season to end that the Ultimate gift would go to your wardrobe
and I think it's much better than the current Season system
better than you lose the Ultimate gift if you miss many days to do missions
what do you think?
did you receive the Ult regardless of whether you completed the spirit trees? 
No, you didn't wait for the season to conclude, you had to complete the season 100% then watch the final cutscene through the constellation, after you watch the final cutscene you will be promptly rewarded the ultimate, that was replaced with the seasonal heart system in Belonging
Regardless, you still were required to complete the season 100%
yea the little flag played the scene
sometimes I wish there was some sort of time wall to the ults
there is really no need in it, but oh boy how many times I got jumpscared by peng hair owners during the first week of performance in live
upd1: wait fr what's with the slowmode
upd2: I can recall slowmode increase here during shattering beta launch, so for a sec I thought new season dropped😭
upd3: if it's for real just because of that there is not much beta content and we discuss different things then that's evil and I want to bite something
upd4: what do you mean wafo :( i dont care if there is an update or not i just wanna talk here cuz cool people are here and it's not as chaotic as main channels where i feel pretty uncomfortable to chat in
ohhh i see
ig the way it was done in gratitude/lightseekers only really works when there's just one ult for the season
what's up with slowmode
You know what I love? MORE PRAIRIE APPRECIATION 
⬇️ understandable have a great day
We technically had that in Belonging, spirits were released on a weekly schedule meaning the ult reward won't be obtainable for awhile, it wasn't received positively if I recall, but that's what I only saw from the server, unsure how it was outside of that
@steady flume The slowmode might've been bumped because there's nothing of importance to discuss, and the channel has been off-topic for quite some time (AKA it's okay to take a break from beta for now)
pls ping me if anything important happens in beta 
well, anyway-



(manifests a prairie season) (or an isle season that works too)
Yeah it wasn’t received well, coz the scheduled spirit (shown on the constellation message) and the actual spirit appearing was 3or4/6 not the same and thus incorrect. I personally didn’t mind waiting, but the confusion was understandably widespread. Probably one reason why they never reimplemented that system again.
Isle season would make me so happy
isle yess

Either a Valley or Forest season might happen, if it is Isle or Prairie, I'll be amazed
hold on is there a 10 minute slowdown now in the chat? BRO WHAT THE- 
A prairie season would be really nice, I like prairie and think it deserves another season 
darkness pervade the mind
I go in there daily already when I CR, I need new places to explore 
I cr home, get bored and leave
we are cursed 
it's gonna be so long before i get to send this but like.. what if (and this is highly unlikely), but what if they did a season that takes place in all the realms, a single guide in home to direct you to other mini guides, the home guide has the seasonal ults, and all the other guides have mini ults that stick around after the season and cost regular currency. each mini guide could have 2 quests each similar to the remembrance system, and each realm could have a miniature seasonal area, with one collectable spirit in each, making 6 spirits total, basically old seasons but more y'know?
(o and also all the mini seasonal areas would be unlocked on the first day to allow quick spirit collection)
I recall not liking Belonging’s staggered spirit release because it made unlocking cosmetics very very linear. Everyone would have the same new items at the same time. With access to all spirits at once, people get to choose for themselves which order they get the cosmetics.
I personally didn't mind (yet) I was still clueless and simply enjoying the boogie parties everywhere wherever
I find isle could have another season, theres so much open space and I understand trying to not clutter it as its the beginning of a skids journey but, at least a lil area off to the side for a season maybe? Isles dessert has potential so 
WOAH THATS A LONG COOLDOWN DAMN
Hello all
Reminder to keep this chat to Beta-related topics— if there isn't much going on at the moment, it's alright to let the channel be slow for a bit and head to our Live channels like #general-sky-discussion or #cozy-sky-discussion for more general topics like what you'd like to see in the next season 
I think both realms are severely overdue for a new season, tbh. And yeah, a little area off to the side of isle would be nice! That way it's not in the way of skids who are just starting out for the first time 
oh geez now we REALLY need a doot 
I’ll lurk in here instead and wait 
The different stages of beta drought 
The beta well needs more than a bucket of water it needs a dam
It needs the whole ocean from days of nature
10 min cooldown 
oh jesus it really is 10 mins
doot when 😥 how boring beta is at times…
In under one minute
Is there any announcements/ devs statement that the transparent cloak will be available in live ver?
I guess it's time to bite crabs and krills and everything
not caring about doots anymore im just upset that something like this happens on a server for a game that presence itself as like social thing
it doesnt even feel like they listen to most of feedback unless everyone's absolutely wild about it so i just dont see why they would make a cooldown for this chat, as if it even mattered what we talk about especially during no updates time
i said earlier i like it here and i really do but like things that happen make me sad. from deleting messages without any rules stating you did something to be deleted, to this
sorry for overreacting.
wafo 🧇
Everyone who’s gonna camp with me in here until we get a doot, bring out your tents and s’mores.
(Okay now I’m done. Still praying the next season is a Prairie season
)
Sago typing 👀
It's pretty normal for us to increase the slowmode in the beta channels when we go on a stretch without updates.
Or in the case of the beta season testing channel, putting it "away" entirely when it's not needed.
Enjoy the beta break, I'll be back to @ everybody with the beta updates role again before too long anyway!
Need a WAFO? 
Why wasn't the season chat used for when Remembrance was released, then? 
IIRC, the event being tested alongside it didn't have any major overhauls, so we didn't need as much space for both to be discussed
So what you are saying is that we should panic? 
Wait I'm supposed to be the one saying that to the chat 
how the turntables...
We're giving back, you too should enjoy them
wait and find out…. what messages ppl send after ten minutes 
Buff the lamp 
I'm not arguing, but 10 minutes is completely unnecessary. Talking about upcoming seasons is absolutely something that can and should be discussed in beta, as we see the process that seasons go through when polished. Expressing our wishes and requests is a core part of this channel and always has been. With the ability to talk about our wants, it creates better beta feedback for development to see what the players want. Restricting the chat to 10 minutes is also overly restrictive because there is no harm in discussing non-beta topics here, provided they are centered around improving the game. That is what beta testing is for.
I'm not arguing (disagrees)
Yay beta hiatus time. Cya when theres a new doot doot 
The slowmode was increased on a request from community staff. There are other channels to talk about hopes or predictions for future seasons, and other topics not restricted to beta, especially since nothing about the next beta season has been released yet.
Your pfp looks delicious btw.
back to WAFO waffles business
Somehow this channel always reverts to the same like 5 topics when there is a small hiatus, topics which that can be discussed in general chat if anything. Sure i get the chat here is nicer ||which is why basically this server is just the beta channels mostly for me|| but there are times where conversations are not needed to be had here, even if its about improving the game, game improvement ≠ beta by proxy. But thats just My pov
((On a sidenote, performance testing started the 25th of february in 2022 right? Almost a year already doesn't even feel like it

i think #cozy-sky-discussion would still make a good channel to discuss hopes regarding future seasons/events for anyone who doesn't like the utter mayhem that is genchat

I'll stick to DMs and lurking, I prefer being in an environment where I recognize most people that I'm talking to. Cya after the hiatus. 
Same here, adíos for now friends 
The one time I miss something. Someone fill me in, please?
Beta-gen, where we can discuss things yet to be in live and also vent/hopes/dreams/panic.
same as well. even cozy is too fast for me, and too many people and faces to process. I also do prefer to recognize people I'm talking to, so I'll just leave for now
also mako, a cooldown was added because we were discussing not related to beta stuff so- yeah
if that's what you are asking
Can't say there's anything to miss when there hasn't been a beta update in forever a week 
I want to have Japanese friends.
Community staff as in like mods? Or was it tgc devs who decided to increase the cooldown? I’m merely curious 😁
Whenever there is 1 month to end the season in the global, a season update comes out in the beta
i don't really wanna accidentally argue, but a more reasonable time would be at least 5 minutes, that way it's not too harsh, but it's just long enough to let people know that yeah, this chat isn't being used for much rn.
Community staff as in TGC community devs (like me) who set guidelines and rules for the server channels 
I understand but why does it have to be SO long? You know? We can talk about it in other channels, but this community is familiar which is why I am unhappy about this decision. However, I respect the decision and won't bring it up again.
im not getting into the semantics of this have fun ig
Welp, I'm looking forward to that beta-updates ping. I'm gonna sleep and hope the ping goes off soon like when there's 35 or so days left of the season in Live. (Unless there is 35 days left and I'm miscounting.) 
Feel ya. But we also should just send feedback, it may not get funny reactions, but is the correct way to reach QA, devs, etc.
Also, once an update drops im going to meme about the owl hair at light speeds.
Oh a lot of these issues (ts system rework, ults being brought back, afk wax, etc) have been discussed here a lot longer than just two weeks. More like the past 2 months lol
talking about predictions and stuff is fun because it makes me more hyped for upcoming updates and is setting in the mood for testing, looking for bugs and writing feedback
i'd argue a longer cooldown gives more exposure and time to type up and discuss issues
@vapid river implied profanity is not allowed, so your message has been removed. Please keep it respectful and appropriate. You can share feedback in #live-feedback / #beta-feedback with the TGC team, or discuss it with others here so long as our guidelines are being followed. 
I’d like you to send me a copy of the message I sent. Word for word, thanks.
Mako I agree with what you said, just retype your message and take out the implied swear so you don't get in trouble
Similarly, feedback on this Discord server can be sent in #contact-the-mods, but moderation and staff decisions aren't up for debate here. I know it can be frustrating, but we'll have an update soon enough... hopefully 
Ohhhhh the blep? I was thinking what profanity Miri was talking about! That's kind of weird (within the context of the message) tho.
Also 10 mins pls... 
Not really, implied swearing can be taken as trying to evade the swear filter (even if that's not what Mako was doing) so yea, not that weird
@vapid river I see a lot of posts from people talking about parts of the game they dislike or see as problems, and not just in this beta channel.
That said, if I or my coworkers have ever posted something in these channels that read as us telling you to not discuss things you don't like about the game, please do let me know so that I/we can go edit those messages to NOT accidentally convey that anymore. We take a lot of care to make it clear that people can talk about changes they disagree with, and only remove posts if they break the server rules (profanity and filtered language, insulting other community members, etc.).
As far addressing criticisms, I/we do our best to engage with conversations about it in the chat, while also trying to be careful that we don't come across as trying to shut those conversations down, and also not saying something that turns out to be inaccurate. We also can't be in the chat channels all the time, which is why I always encourage folks to post those thoughts in the feedback channels so that we can be sure to see them and get them to the different teams who work on different aspects of the game.
woah i just got here 
rip to whoever's giant message just got eaten up

Sorry to bother you, but this should be written in #rules if you want it to be followed. Also, there is currently no place to discuss moderator or staff decisions, and if you would like to restrict free speech (excluding purposefully harmful speech) about moderators and staff decisions, then you should make it rule. Choose kindness
. Ideally, we could have a place to discuss other things like #other-beta-discussion if you want to keep this chat on slow mode. (Edited because constitutional thing was wrong)
Once again, you can send feedback in our #contact-the-mods channel. Discussion about anything Beta is alright, but this topic ends here.
@opaque cipher the slowmode is staying for the reasons that have already been given, and alternate channels to discuss wishlist/hoped for content are available. We are not telling people to not talk about something, simply redirecting the conversation to a different channel.
As an online community we have moderation rules in place to keep the server safer and more organized for everyone to use, whether Child of Light member, mod, or staff, and everyone on this server agreed to follow those rules when they joined.
I remember some devs PROMISING (((not a promise))) us huggable plushies.
It is being/was considered, but in no way it is reflecting upcoming content, just to be clear
Pretty sure that wasn't possible atm due to tech limitations
Oh, Hisae? 
I made this post here: <#beta-discussion message>
Buuuuut I definitely also said:
Please note that that is not a promise, because game dev. But we think it would be adorable and fun too
Because as much as we would like to hand out promises for more than just WAFOs, we also don't want to end up unintentionally getting people excited for something that ended up delayed or even somehow not possible. 🙈
Who needs a new season when you can get a hugging plushie mechanic? 
(Please I love my manta plushie 😭)
I wanna hug my little prince fox 
I take the word of 500k crabs very seriously, also i put the disclaimer beforehand.
And furthermore i never forget nor forgive.
lol I saw that edit
I thought it might have been tongue in cheek originally, but humor is hard online sometimes, and I might have a deep-seated fear of being the starting point for a runaway rumor, so I had to post 
Okay entirely fun question, but why is your username like 500,000 crabs and not like 500,000 mantas or sometning. Is it to copy Ktjn’s username something similar? @frosty trout /gen
I do want to apologize for complaining about the 10 minute cool down. The last 2 times you did this long cool down thing, there were absolutely massive updates that came a week later. (Pre TLP and Pre Aurora). The 10 minutes is still excessive but I'm over it if we get a giant update soon
Sagomay IS the crab scientist... 
oop 10 min wth- okay-
isnt that a bit excessive for a discussion channel?
Hi betas
Cool, 10 minutes cooldown, gonna find out why by myself
Ah alright it makes sense now, see y’all in the new season test
Humm, I think it's important to caution that just because the slowmode is long, it doesn't necessarily mean there is a giant update coming. If there isn't a large update following this, it's not a reason to be upset because your expectations aren't met.
Besides, it's not the first time beta chats had a sleepy cooldown in-between testing cycles, and it's always a good reminder to take a little mini-vacation. 
Something to be grateful for: the chat is still remaining open-it could be temporarily closed entirely due to there being nothing to test! 
@white latch I backread already, slowmode is due to there being nothing to test at the moment. 
I changed my Official and Very Real title from "Crab Scientist" to celebrate the server reaching 500,000 members.
I'll change it back, eventually. Probably.
I think 500,000 crabs is more intimidating and also hilarious (wheeze)
in a way we all are crabs?

Compromise: 500,000 crab scientists (in a hot dog costume)
Inb4 600,000 mustard packs.
Closing the thing entirely was just excessive. I know there is nothing to test at the moment, so this 10 minute cooldown better be for a really good reason. Having this channel has kept my mind healthy because it is a place I can consistently go to discuss with familiar faces something that I love. I don't want to get muted or banned so I'm not going to keep talking about this. I take plenty of mini vacations, but sometimes this chat is one of the only places feel comfortable going to on a regular basis to have fun and test stuff. I won't be raging but I will be somewhat agitated if there was no significant good reason for this cool down. Thank you for your reminders though, I appreciate it. This message is not to argue in any way
10 mins is nothing when compared to the riveting conversations we managed to have during 45 mins cd 
This gonna be new Lore theory /j 
We've had up to 2-6hr cooldown before, just saying
Haha yeah, hard times 
I understand your emotions, but a reminder: it's not closed entirely though, it's just a slowmode! We can still discuss and converse with each other, just more delayed.
Sagomay seemed to give out a good reason before: since this channel is a tool for the devs to use, they don't need it to be active while there isn't testing content for this channel to focus on.
Moreover, relying on a Discord channel for mental health is something that might not be fully beneficial for you. I understand wanting the feeling of companionship and comradery, and this server is full of great people. But at the end of the day, this server, and this channel, doesn't belong to any of us, we don't control how it's used so it's probably best not to rely on it for mental health purposes, especially if a slowmode is affecting you.
I'll drop it the discussion here though, as you request.
Edit: #cozy-sky-discussion and #seasons-events-chat Might be great places to hang out though in the meantime!
I want a channel for one-handed players!

Edit: actually, one finger
I've been on the discord server since ASSEMBLY and have literally NEVER seen 2-6 hour cooldowns. When was this? React with a season icon so you don't waste your cool down. I'm a fossil apparently since I've played since the beginning of enchantment, but some people have been here since the light awaits.
@opaque cipher, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
and you all got your responses mailed in 2-5 business days, I know, I know
You know what this cold down remind me of? The recharging speed of the manta lamp! 
This cooldown be like my cooldown prop whenever it has been attacked by red crystal krebs during red shard
(edit: also recharging speed of my assembly brazier)
Also, @calm wedge , yes. Same

holy crap I just came here to comment on the insanity in #beta-screenshots-videos but there's a 10 minute cooldown? Good lord.
About there being other channels to talk in: Yeah, I get it. But also this is one of the few channels where users can talk freely and not have to worry about spoilers. So it's a fair enough reason to be upset, because this chat isn't only a tool for the devs.
Edit: Goodnight, folks. Please do get some rest, the cool down isn't worth losing sleep over.
Second edit because I had a thought: The server mods could always add a general-chat in the beta section so we don't clog testing discussion, but there's still a "free speech" (:P) chat. I haven't looked through all the channels in awhile, so maybe there is a chat like that 
Around the Sanctuary invite waves, though for different reasons
We've had the channel locked before too
I'll take a ten minute cooldown instead of a 2 hour one 💀
Anyways I'm gonna try and blind myself in beta again brb 
I'm not surprised we have a cool down, the last few days I've wandered in here it's been off topic (understandable since we have no content to discuss). At this point it's just part of beta 
Anyways dropping by for a quick doot dance before bed

manifesting massive doot

Doot ritual

wasnt someone on tgcs discord job title listed as pizza criminal am i going silly

I think that was wes
#general-sky-discussion message
In my opinion: Seasons should never end, there should always be an opportunity for new players to pick up items from past Seasons (does not include Seasons crossovers)
Because exclusivity is something that kills the game and causes conflicts in the community.
So if TGC is going to go down this path of bringing back the old Seasons, I approve of that decision.
Let's keep the Beta-only streak going a little longer 
You can send suggestions in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived , or discuss with others in #general-sky-discussion / #cozy-sky-discussion / #seasons-events-chat for general Sky topics 
#general-sky-discussion / #cozy-sky-discussion / #seasons-events-chat / and more in our sidebar! 
#sky-memes for meme reviews.
/jk
I would obviously fight for cheaper prices but at this point I would also pay anything for certain older ults. And also reskins don't really make all parties happy. There are still tons of people I know who would still want the old ults to come back and I really haven't seen great arguments from vets why they shouldn't. Most of it boils down to "I want my things to be exclusive". Only fair argument I've seen was "I like to identify people from when I joined" and if we do the silver pendant system for ult bundles and gold pendant stays for people who completed the season when it was in full swing that wouldn't be a problem. I say let the old vets be mad if it means we can stop exclusivity hierarchy on most of the in game items. /nm
As we've asked nicely quite a few times now, further messages may be removed if off-topic is continued. We know some like this channel for broader discussions for many reasons, but as it's meant primarily for Beta we have to enforce it sometimes— particularly when there isn't much testing going on like now 
Still encourage everyone to head to our Live channels if you wanna talk about ideas on how to improve Sky, or what you'd like to see as future content 
Speaking of beta, thoughts on the current waiting room? Does it need to be expanded yet?
Edit: ouch, forgot about the ten minute cooldown 
The new grass that is currently in the beta version of the game and only in the beta version of the game is so beautiful! The shared memory crystals have a magical look! 
I hope the 20.5 beta update comes out tomorrow like mentioned in the news post. I really am excited to see my rose ult back to normal and the assembly lamp regular too. Also I will spend hours running around in the grass when it hits live bc it is mesmerizing
Now I politely sit in silence for 8 min and 40 sec bc genchat scares me
For anyone wondering it's on the known issues channel I misremembered! It is in the update on the wind paths post where it says:
We have a code change that is currently planned to go live on February 23rd that we hope will address the remaining issues with this area. We have also made several code changes in the past few months that we had hoped would fix this issue, but they ended up not being complete solutions.
Which I assumed would be 20.5 but who knows I guess it could be not that but I think it is
...Am I missing something? I don't see anything about an update coming tomorrow, or maybe I'm just blind. Can someone show me said post, please?
It took some time if I remember your previous comments right, but it must feel nice to have had a direct hand in improving the game with your bug reports.
I'm excited for your items to be fixed!
I want my capeless cape right now 
Does anyone knows where can I buy the capeless cape in Beta? Because I saw a post from dev that it's no longer in Forest Elder's ult gift
Edit: thank you 💖
https://bit.ly/WindPathsMessage I think is what Rae is talking about
25/02 Performance
24/05 Shattering
24/08 Aurora
Hmm
Maybe yes we will have an update tomorrow or in 2 days
Something something capeless should come to live for the 4000th time
Hotfix logic
Capeless cape should live whole times 
What if we had a faceless mask, which would make our head invisible

Hairless 
Grifters be grifting today!!
and it will contain bug fixes and improvements 😂😂😂😂
Has the invisible cape been taken out of beta? I got it for real last year, but it is no longer in my inventory.
@minor falcon I did get it for real.
No it hasn't. It got removed from those accounts only which got them appeared as a bug, not acquired
I still have mine, it's there for those who've bought it legit
edit: hmm, that's weird then
if it's really gone then I'd report it as a bug. if something happens in live where players get cosmetics due to a bug and tgc removes those cosmetics from the wrong players than that could be bad
edit: @shrewd needle you can buy it in orbit from the vault elder after you've completed vault constellation
Where is it earned from now? Someone further up in the chat asked, but I couldn't see the answer.
Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live!
Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well 
Should be from vault elder still. Just checked my invisi cape still here
That is super strange. You’ve had that for ages! Are you now wearing a cape? Let me go check
And capeless is back after I try resetting for the second time. Sorry about this. If this happens again I won't waste space asking here.
it's good to know if it has the tendency to disappear and reappear in this build 🫡
It’s good to know if such bugs can be reset after restarting or not, and better safe than sorry too!
by this point, there just should be a beta sky chat channel thats for folks from this channel to move to since a chunk dont feel connected or welcomed in the other live channels so they talk here when they can tbh 😔
⏬ tbh cozy goes into inner joking territory and often times just ignore anything i say as result (and mods have once interfered too in that regard), cozy should be renamed to "inner jokes channel" 
Might not be a bad idea tbh... Save for music, the other live channels kinda scare me (yes, even cozy) - their chaos isn't quite the same vibes as beta chaos ^^;
I'm happy for a more cozy and slower beta
I like beta pretty much but its occasional chaos makes me the most uncomfortable
i can see beta-testing-discussion for those discussions since theyre often about the current tests that are happening, and beta-sky-discussion for a more general, cozy sky discussion without the fast-pace of genchat and the inner joking of cozychat 
i should go to contact channel to tell this suggestion now thag i think about it actually better question, where do i go to suggest things for the server
want to chip in about using beta chat for more general discussions.
the discussions here are usually still way more on the topic of Sky while the general chat is like completely random. where do I even go to discuss things that are already in the live game? general just ignores actual sky related topics in favor of just..nonsense.
can we get a channel for like sky-discussion??
Fearing a mod bonk, yes a beta gen channel would be cool. Let's just feedback it and be done.
On topic: The manta lamp needs a buff 
bye
My biggest curiosity - besides what the new season will be - is how many beta friends will stay active

It's hard to predict at the end of seasons or during off-season times. Many players as soon as they get all seasonal items barely do things in beta (or not at all) 
It's a smart move that internal decisions about invites are made during beta seasons 🧠
my biggest curiosity - will aviary be return or not someday
No
No, Flight area is the closest we will get, I think
🎤 can you sing make you look?
unfortunately not, I would love to see the aviary back, as it is a thousand times better than the current home.
But according to TGC:" it's the best way for players to go faster to the maps"
Aviary is just a cool looking hangout spot to me 
With all the different ledges, and room to run and fly about, it feels more akin to a children’s playground or, as it’s name suggests, a place for birds to safely fly about
It doesn’t have to replace Home, and I understand why it was dropped in the first place, but that won’t stop me from dreaming of paying it a visit one day, regardless of how low the chances of that happening may be 
they can do it as aurora location or prince... kinda like a cape that will lead to aviary
it's kind of disappointing that the discussion on the bloom cape price and the manta lantern has just died down
this all kind of feels unresolved
the bloom capes will definitely be discussed again next year if nothing changes, but the lantern 
so many problems just get pushed to the next year and then nothing happens
For cheering up some (optimistic) Skykids the lantern has 3 recharge advantages over all other fire props: ||crabs don't attack/destroy it, you can recharge on it without being attacked, and most importantly it has the biggest recharge radius|| amongst all props 
here before we find out that the manta lantern being immune to crabs is a bug or something 
TFW your caption for images you post, as well as the other pics don’t upload to Discord and you have to wait minutes and minutes to try to post them again with the same result 
I saw you already uploaded 2 times and to me both of the images showed up 
I tried to upload 3 images at once with a caption and both times only one image with no caption actually posted
that’s not a discord issue per se, trying to use the ”select” feature w. multiple images in ur iOS gallery doesn’t work that well. suggest just scrolling to the correct images while discord is alr open
When will the update comes for Android users?
!omgomgwhenbeta
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!
I thought Android users were in the future....
@prime lagoon a question about the video in screenshots, were you by any chance interacting with any of the water cannons in sanctuary? those that make you fly super high
not at all. I was just candle running with my friend in the butterfly field in prairie. my game was crashed and when i logged in again, and trying to hold my friend's hand, suddenly the screen is blue. and i go back home and started recording
ach mein gott
sadly, we can't talk about this topic on this channel anymore
As someone who used to be a cozy regular I can confirm it happens all the time.
cozy regular (ish) here! yeah, i definitely agree. idk where all the uwuspeak came from but i feel like that and thr constant in-joking drowns out conversation attempts
please don't spectate or reduce other channels like that, also it's not relevant to beta and we've already been told to move on from this topic by both mods and a dev
(manifesting updoot as we speak)
I think I’m just too blunt about stuff, I just kinda wish we got stuff like gen. 
yeah i’ll move on, i just wanted to get my thoughts out, thats all
no one is "spectating" or reducing anything. It's facts, and people are trying to get a new channel made because most of us don't feel welcome in normal chats. And some of us just feel like tools in this chat, since it's meant for beta discussion "only".
There's no other chat in this server (save the beta screenshot channel) where users can freely talk about beta content without getting bonked, and I think I speak for a lot of people when I say it's annoying to be told to stop talking just because beta has nothing going on.
If the mods aren't willing to make a new channel, fine, but some people weren't online last night and will probably still be off-topic.
It's your opinion, not a fact, as a cozy frequenter I know well that talking about other channels is discouraged in there so it should be the same rules applying here. Like reducing gen chat to "chaos", reducing cozy to "uwuspeak" is an unfair stereotype if you don't actually spend time in those chats or partake in conversations.
Also it's not a mod job to add new channels, but you can leave your feedback with them and they'll pass it on to devs.
Nobody is telling you to stop talking, mods and devs have just encouraged us to move to more appropriate channels because beta chat is for beta testing discussions and the last few days the discussions have been everything else but, which is why mods and devs have asked us to drop this topic.
My issue is that coming here and seeing people label cozy this or that when it's my friends in there just feels a bit eh 
its like... we genuinely understand what the mods are saying and that this channel is specifically for beta testers to discuss what theyre currently testing, though its not our fault that the only place where we can actually have a casual Sky-themed chatter without any inner jokes or spam and feel unwelcomed (or moving to a different server) is in this channel

and yes, weve sent the feedback and mods have interfered on the channels before, but the problem still stands
Yeah it's really not surprising that since we constantly interact here about what we are doing that we'd also only feel really really comfortable chatting here. I understand why the mods said what they did but it made me sad haha. Genchat is scary sometimes. Plus I like the people here. I've gotten used to seeing certain names pop up and know whatever I send here won't get lost in the fray too since gen moves so fast.
I think it's understandable from both sides. People can get why the mods said what they did while also being frustrated. There have been plenty of off topic discussions for many seasons over- it just feels kind of normal to do. But also it is beta discussion so it makes sense why they'd wanna keep it that way.
i wasnt on last night so i just wanted to throw in my 2 cents, thats all. i say this as someone who frequents cozy as well and has friends there, and im not trying to boil down the chat to one thing or another. i hope you understand
i didnt mean to hurt anyones feelings, i apologize for my poor word choice 
It's meant for beta discussion because it's literally in the channel's name? Beta goes on breaks when there's nothing to talk about because no new content is being tested. A cooldown increase is, in my opinion, generally better to have because the off topic conversations in a discussion meant for chatting about upcoming stuff in a game is pretty likely. It gives exposure to break times, and is solely meant to be a break in the discussions for beta as there is no new content right now.
Simply put though, if you don't like the dev's or mod's decisions to increase cooldown, use #contact-the-mods and give them feedback, I guess?
… is everything alright? 
10 MINUTE COOLDOWN?!! WHAT
Same here. 
I’d be more willing to express my opinions in. not this chat 😭
People forget this happens every time Beta is on hiatus from testing, it's nothing new. There's nothing to test or do so beta chat is on slow mode. Bear in mind it's mostly during hiatuses that this happens, we've been able to talk off-topic for the past two weeks, if not even longer cause the mods have been lenient. Testing should resume in a week or two so everything should be back to normal by then
Also if anything, we've been off-topic for the past 12 hours. Only difference is the cooldown
No one is saying cozy is bad, or that the people are bad. They're just saying they feel unwelcome because of the in-jokes and types of conversations.
"More appropriate channels" is exactly what the issue is here. There are none that don't have spoiler rules or tight-knit communities that ignore new faces. This is why people want a beta-general.
I'm done with this conversation, since I have no interest in being banned. If you have more to say, please say it in my DMs.
same, im willing to express my thoughts in pms 
I’m just catching up but I’d love it if we could all catch up and talk!!! It’s hard finding you all in other chats since there’s so many people
I have many thoughts and opinions 
Just also going to point out #seasons-events-chat exists. As a SEC regular it's pretty similar to beta chat, very different vibe to cozy and gen, not to mention quite a lot of SEC regulars are beta regulars as well
hi!
gentle reminder that if you have feedback about the server, please send it through #contact-the-mods
other feedback channels are meant for things related to their respective versions of the game
sec best channel 
now this channel is dead 
people are waiting for updates
snooork mimimimi
No updates, long slow mode, sad day 
I miss everyone already 
Next update will be a smaller cooldown 
Beta update 0.20.2
This build includes testing for:
- added a 10 minute cool down timer to all chats sent in sky.
Visit the official Sky Discord for more details, to submit bug reports, and to send your feedback in the #beta-feedback channel.
||/J /LH||
dying of a disease called i miss beta chat buddies 
pspsps any sky fossils around from pre-launch who have any screenshots or videos of the candle forge night time glitch?
There should've been some through Shira's album, a screenshot at least
I'm starving for beta to receive a new update!
[holds out bowl like a starving orphan] please, devs? just a crumb of doot? please?



c'mon guys it will be just bug fixing update... why do you think that it will contain new season???
We're pretty much done with 20.5, it should be shipped to live some time soon
shhhh… its reverse psychology
YEAH WE DONT WANT A NEW SEASON NUH UH NOT AT ALL
I wish we got swooshy long grass in live before love ends but I guess I'll just have to wait until the latter half of remembrance and bloom to eat it 
You gotta wait to have munchies 
that new statue for the ts with new players, wont it be a bit confusing? how are new players supposed to know what it is or that they need to go through eden before unlocking it. alot of the time if you arent in the discord theres no way to know how things work in sky, i feel like they should add a button with it that tells new players what they need to do to reveal the spirit. there's hardly any instructions past the basic controls so alot of new players are just left confused with how things work 
We have no idea what it is the function of the statue or what it is intended to be, it could be a bug or unfinished for all we know
When did the statue even start appearing? I didn’t see anyone comment on it before the season ended
@kindred prawn, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
I know this isn't necessarily beta related but I figured I'd ask here. The devs mentioned that they'd be releasing a code update today back when they mentioned the Wind Paths bug and why it's been difficult to solve it. Is it going to be released on all platforms?
most likely yeah I don’t see why it wouldn’t be
I wonder whether the grass visual update has some performance optimization as well 
in fact, the only thing that leaves the player in a real private place is the Little prince's Asteroid cape, and I say that because I think the do not disturb spell they recently added in beta is terrible.
What’s the asteroid cape do?
Hi
i really thought we'd get an updaet today T_T plsss
live will get the update, beta gets it laterrr
speak of the devil, the patch notes for 20.5 were released
I hope the next update get to release more lv.2 ultimate gifts or perhaps lv.3 gifts
Update is already out on iOS and Huawei for live.
Beta updates very unlikely happen the same time with live ones.
Bloom cape stayed at 110 candles 
It's out on Android as well @/tib
Also bubba the grass is long now so u can munch on it during DoL 
Global is out
But not im beta
yippieeeee does this mean grassier grass is out in live now
Yep. Update is out, just as I figured it'd be on all platforms.
THE BLOOM PANTS WILL BE MINE HEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
Hmmm so did the do not disturb not got live? Didn’t see that in the patch notes and no spell in the boat
a dev did say it would stay in beta for further polish + feedback so probs just didn't make it to live yet
so as i thought - no useful updates
cheer
The last update for live that I have is three weeks ago 👀
DAYS OF MUNCHING SWOOSHY LOVE GRASS LETS GOOOO
also to make this beta related - doot dance number two 
Guys i don't see krill distraction in the patch list for live, did the feature not make it? 🥹
P.s i could be blind and its right there so if it is sorry
it looks SO GOOD in pink
Who’s still camping with me for the (eventual) season update 
i didn't see it, maybe it still needs tweaking? 
Krill distraction is still being worked on! It's not in 0.20.5
Is the DND still being worked on too? Or am I just blind and don’t see it in the patch notes
Yep, still WIP. I mentioned that in one of my posts closer to the start of 0.20.5, either in this channel or the updates channel
Ah I'm glad krill distraction wasn't shipped cause it failed for Dahlia and I last time and I imagine much chaos would ensue

Hey Sago!!
Are there plans to turn the D&D spell into a feature? There has been a lot of back and forth about it being a spell
I think the team's looking at different options. Beta testers aren't the only folks who go back and forth about things like that 
Hi Sago! you want another plate of wafos by chance?
🧇
The air prop change made it to live :( not happy bout that. Hope we can get back the old way with instant collision? Or is this just how it’s gonna work now?
IS THE SLOWMODE STILL BAD??
Oh my 
I want you to do something about the app crash bug that is occurring in beta now...😭
I’m gonna make a bingo board and see where I crash in Beta to try and get a bingo. 
Excited about the next season, testing will probable start very soon 
There's usually 2-3 weeks gap 
how long has it been since remembrance ended in beta? also can we please have a normal cooldown 
We'll be keeping the slowmode at this level until testing begins for 0.21.0
Oh, cheaper meat cape.
Sashimi!!!
In two days! ||ping off, and /j|| 
is 21.0 coming out in less than a minute 

when is the next invite?
We don't know, it's random
just read the live patchnote and they no longer call the cape tulip cape but just red bloom cape😭
we we called it tulip cuz ash and sagomay said so
It's always been referred to as the Red Bloom cape, tulip/rose is the player name for it
or rather salami
edit: It changed from salami to salmon
Salami sausage lady gaga meat ham
Beta players: sausage cape
Normal players: tulip/rose cape
i know what you are
(raw meat slice)
unless I remember wrong:
- the beta patch notes originally said tulip
- it was removed in an edit
- arguments ensued
- Ash (or some other dev) confirmed it was inspired mostly by tulips
discord search is bringing me peanuts even when I search for Ash’s whole tag so can’t remember if it’s 100% correct
Tulip, rose, salami, whatever you wanna call it, that cape is food and I'm going to eat it
↓ I'm gonna eat it in valley out of spite now
(Its definitely a california poppy when in Valley, Do Not Eat)
What are you referring to by the air prop change? Are we no longer able to place props in the air after this update? (Haven’t updated yet, no storage space)
They changed (at least for mobile) the way that placing props I the air works. You can’t just tap the button now and have the prop pop out in front of you. It still does kinda do that but there is no collision until you hit the check button too. Now a 2 button press for something that was just a simple tap
Here's a fix for finding Ash's tag, but you need to wait until she's online.
-When she's online, tap her profile and then back out of it and only then can you search for messages by Ash. The same applies to anyone else you may be searching for if they don't show up in your search results.
Blame Discord for the wonky experience on mobile. 
Previous Bloom capes were always referred to as "pink" and "purple" rather than a specific-flower cape in patch notes too which I thought wasn't the case so I checked lol so I don't think it actually means anything tbh!
The bug where you can't take your candle out made it to Live it seems
No but there was no need for beta discussion... Also the lamp? No need for changes whatsoever, it's perfect.
In development, we give cosmetics and features and things nicknames so that we have some way to know what we're talking about with each other. Those nicknames are made up without trying to connect it to real or official game terminology, or sometimes would straight up contradict actual Sky world/story things. It doesn't mean that our half-thought out nicknames are "rea" for the Sky world, let alone more real than the official name.
Salami cape 
nono, I sadly have Ash’s full tag memorised already 💀 but inputting the full one manually doesn’t work, which makes me think it’s a special font or something lmao. found workaround by searching for ”hi ash” and finding a way to their profile like that. using discord’s own copy for the usertag (which would grab any font-y action as well) always works as u noted, but given I have the text memorised it feels extremely redundant lmao
here’s the message for anyone wondering anyhow:
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Yeahhh whenever I’ve struggled to find someone in a Discord server, typically I’ve had to find one of their messages first, and then when I try to search again they’ll pop up as normal, wonky Discord 
It’s as if Discord needs to see someone’s profile to remember they exist sometimes 
What do you mean air prop changes
The ultimate ?
Placing prop and it go into edit mode, personally i like this but for smaller props it can get tricky
Edit: just check it again, turn out it won’t go into edit mode if you drag and place prop (only work on ground). So far it mostly help consoles player.
It used to pop out just ahead of you and it had collision so you could easily with some practice land on it right quick. Now it takes a couple taps to make it solid and if your out of energy you might miss. It’s a change for mobile and for the worse in my opinion. Especially for those of us that use charging props to explore. Not to mention they seem way buggier and disappear randomly for me
It goes away when you move away from the prop. I tried it on Live just now, well yeah it's kinda annoying. You can't tap on the fly button when the edit button of the prop appear.
It’s a mess and I feel like so many changes to the controls have been made to benefit PS and Switch and just ignore the effect on non controller mobile players
Oh my unicorns
theres a shared space diamond in Inhale Exhale (this is kinda entertaining) did the diamonds replace some other kind of object?
So since live drop of 0.20.5 I have come to the conclusion that while the rose ult and other props do look improved upon from the last version, it still looks off with color and it's saturation in caves (#screenshots-and-videos message).
It still becomes lighter when entering a dark cave then that of when it is in broad daylight and seems to have a weird film over the items. I don't have it in beta so I had to wait for the drop in live to actually see the improved lighting and now I gotta make a beta bug report too haa
I will be reporting this in beta and live bug reports til the day I die apparently lol
I hope they continue to improve the lighting. I feel it won't change again for a long time since it's a small issue and went from being unacceptable washed out colors to "still wonky but no longer white colors" in caves. 
So beta fill me in I haven't played beta in a while
Wym in the live patch notes there's two spirits? Who's the other spirit aside from Pleading Child? 👁️👄👁️
doot prayer circle 🕯️
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Doot about new season please 
joining in the doot prayer circle
🕯️
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I'm going to sleep, now would be a GREAT time for a doot so I have something really cool to wake up to! 
Just wanted to confirm bc I can't post spoilers from beta, the beta recharge speed for the ulti is the same in live, 3.6s?
Manifesting doot

the mysterious and all-powerful Skybot sees all! ...also, i'm stuck in the mods' basement again, can you let me out? 
Not unless you give us a doot. 
give doot or you will stay there
no peas too
I have the key should I let them out?
Skybot locked in the basement, the megalodon locked in the underwater chamber, and Jenova Chen stuck in the Mischief toilet...TGC's got a bit of a streak going on here 
Skybot you're off topic
/lh
bye
Worry no more, for your gallant bot in a shining white cape has arrived! Tis I, Skybot! I am here!
Do you have a doot yet 
I’m still keeping you in the basement unless you have one because I’m bored 
they probably do, but won't share 
could somebody test out the gardening pants with different capes or outfits?
We don't honor outfit requests in beta. You'll have to wait till live
that's definitely a spoiler 
petition to give skybot a 10 minute cooldown too 
oh okay! thank you for telling me (´∀`*)

Do we know how many days the shared space spells lasts before you need to plant another shared space somewhere?
I don't know what I walked into, but can agree that skybot could use a cooldown ^^;
Anyone else just crashing constantly 
Will the new season be updated this afternoon?
10 minutes cooldown is cool
Are y'all excited for yeti TS next week 
Running around in beta and every time I use the manta ult to charge I get frustrated bc it's so slow 😭
The ole stone statue glitched and appeared for me in live when I got back from Eden it’s been glitching in and out 
why is there such a long cd here? did i miss smth

it is 10 minute cool down?! What- no wonder we haven't been talking much here
Guess who got into the Nintendo area without the cape lol. Did a bug report 💀 if I can in beta that probably means it works in live since they got the update today
Please improve the ability to charge the light in the Season of Remembrance Ultimate Gift
Rae's Isle of dawn mysterious stone post made me hyped about new season
@limpid canyon I want to say it is the same amount of time as the shared space shine messages , so about 3 or 4 days? Idk, but tbh I did not do an exact counting of how long it lasted for me in beta
@upper thicket we are just fellow players here , it is best to send that in the feedback feed where the devs will see it, (you worded it in a way that I assume you meant it for the devs)
I've already sent feedback to the developer. The reason I left a message here is because I wanted to know what other users think about Ult.
Ah , okay. it is going to be very difficult to get everyone's thoughts on that rn with the 10 minute cool down
but the many many long discussions we have had here since our last huge beta update has basically been in agreement of your statement, so not to worry - many people have sent in the same feedback as you and all we can do is wait and see now 
WHAT
If my theory and prints are correct
we will have a "rework" on the Isle of dawn, whose location of the isle of dawn will have a visual change, and honestly it was time for the isle of dawn to receive a rework
i really want to find the poll but gohdamn isle is big 💀,
edit: So in Rea pic it had a poll, but i can't see anything either
doot





I am so curious about it hehe 
This is late but I’ve sort of (?) found a solution for the air prop placement double tap, instead of tapping on the prop in your inventory you can quickly swipe on it to make it solidly appear in front of you. It’s not an exact landing like with the singular tap, but if you’re in flap mode you’ll pretty much land on it every time. Hope this helps 
It doesn't mean much tbh
Edit: This is not in response to the post above
still no doot... 
We're approaching a weekend so might as well be next week (or the one after)
there's still a chance today but rather, highly, ultimately unlikely
My advice is to be patient (AKA pretend to not care so it can come faster)
@narrow python Sorry for PING but that AURORA wing kid that got afk was me
I couldn't take a picture because it was a moment, but when I was away from the diamond in isle, there was something black above the diamond, and when I got a little closer, something black disappeared like dust. I don't know it was a skykid or a ghost?!
Well, maybe it was just a skykid.
I was too hyped
my beta was crystal clear on that department, no ghosts, no happenings
my live tho... 
#screenshots-and-videos message
happened after doing the turtle / sanctuary cr
any beta experiences like that?
For those who had a red dot notif from the diamond, are you up to date with Remembrance questline?
Or a past seasonal questline in general, cause I don't have it on either.
welp.
I triggered something similar like this in beta myself, gonna send the video rq 
I shall call this occurrence: the random isle event.
I checked myself, not entirely sure if it's related to a past questline. But tbh, for all we know this could have been around for ages and that now we're recently discovering it, lol
It doesn't mean much
About the white negative shard in Isle which recharges instead of taking away light: its been there for a while, nice spot for few winged moths
i really think it’s just a bug no one noticed until recently cuz it’s so odd for that cube thingy to be in the live version as well if it’s supposed to be stuff for the next season
beta update tomorrow pslpslspsls
apparently the diamond is present during inhale exhale in the concert as well 👁️ went with a friend around reset. also saw a picture of someone finding it in orbit lmao (but those diamonds cannot be interacted with)
Yeah, it was just found at an unfortunate time
still cool to see though; wonder if its a side effect of the wind paths bug
similar setup: you can only pull these assets from specific methods. if its aurora assets, it could be a similar bug. they patched one part of the code but it could have reached another area.
10min cooldown why
tbf they also like throwing assets in/behind clouds. flight being an example with the manta.
how
that's a big stretch you got there
Didn't beta had crystal everywhere since the time shared place get rework? I thought it was a leftover
Could be an unused shared space set up now that I'm thinking about it. They have been wanting to add more locations for it, maybe planned on setting one up in isles and figured it wouldn't fit there or go with their envision and future plans. The diamond matches, it's just missing the proper coding set up most likely
i’m still praying it’s hinting at an isle season
i may be desperate
I'm boring, I just think it's a random leftover asset, but the timing it was found didn't help its case
I'm the least likely to need a WAFO getouttahe
lurks in Need a WAFO? 
if its been here for longer, im surprised no one has spotted it until now
im curious to see if it stays in the next update honestly
You'd be surprised how a lot remains unknown, waiting to be discovered... or it's being gatekept in fear of being patched
and some discoveries don't catch on with the wider community as fast, if at all
That aside the many OOBs/assets that were lost to beta 😔💔
HI BETA DO THE SEASON ITEMS THAT ARENT LOCKED TO SPIRITS STAY
LIKE THE ONES THE GUIDE HAS, DO THOSE STAY AFTER THE SEASON ENDS
actually idk why im even asking since im a beta tester and idk if the season has even ended in beta yet
if you’d read the patch notes you’d know..
if you play beta you should know 
i just saw someone said no-cape gonna come to live is that true ?
usually i would pay close attention to patch notes, but i've been going through such heavy burnout with sky that i've been slacking a lot
so bc of that i figured it would just be easier to ask, but well,, i still got my answer in the end at least i suppose
Last info I had is that there are no current plans to bring it to Live.
Sorry, didn’t mean to sound mean. But yes, the items stay after the season has ended. I just assumed you could check it yourself. But take care, burnout is not fun 
Is the gardener’s pant not coming for days of bloom?
its literally in the patch notes
seems kinda early
but I think the Season on the Isle of Dawn will be something related to exploring islands far from the Isle of Dawn.
we rly need something in #beta-faq that says “no, capeless is not coming to live, stop asking”
There's a statement from a dev pinned in this channel, gotta scroll down a bit, no further statements were made so it stands
I think I better go to sleep
one hour the update ends up coming out
What do the new bloom items look like?
I don’t have enough service for YouTube to work
Also big cool-down, oof
For IGC items, there’s a new peach colored tulip cape and a butterfly fountain prop that attracts butterflies once placed down
As for IAP items, there’s a new gardener’s outfit (it’s super cute) and a picnic basket that works as a chatting prop where 3 ppl can sit and eat snacks off the basket
What do they look like tho
look up "voi's beta archive" in #beta-screenshots-videos
it would be cool if the new season (which will probably be on the isle) was an underwater hole that we descended into an atlanta 
The cape looks alright ig, not really my thing
I can’t find the fountain tho
Voi's archive is outdated
Voi is probably too busy to keep up
congrats to voi for having a life
I wonder how it feels 
Voi competing for platinum in touching grass
I can’t find the thing in isle
Edit: omg the slowmode 
you arent a chosen one then
Isle season soft confirmation with the guide placeholder that was found
Do you think we will get elder masks for the other 3 realms? I asked once a long while back and someone said it was confirmed it would happen eventually but not any time soon, but I never saw any evidence to back their claims... I really hope more elder masks happen!

That thing could literally be anything, so while an isle season is entirely possible it might as well be a random thing.
I just hope the maximum price for elder masks is 250 AC because i have seen way too much speculation for it up to 1000 💀
Those has been sighted in different areas awhile ago, it's not necessarily confirmation
Do you know where by chance? Also, I said soft confirmation because I've seen that little diamond before as a placeholder before they have the season guide designed. I am not saying "Isle season 100%". 
If isle season, maybe we’ll get a lore heavy one 
Amazing, another depressing season 
given tgcs reluctancy to put anything in isle any additions are likely there for Good reason
ok yeah taking that into account i think i’m on the side of prairie season now
i don’t think i can survive any more sad stories for a while
if its a guide placeholder
who banished them to the edge of the map and to the exhale inhale swamp 
Doot 
I cant take another heartbreak
I just want a silly season
prairie 4 life
Look behind you teehee
bold of you to assume that prairie can't potentially also give us a depressing season 
Would there be any reason that TGC would want to limit seasons in Isle? 
It's essentially the tutorial area for new players so any changes might make it too confusing for new players, might be a reason why TGC would limit.
thank you it's great
How’s the platinum touching-grass trial going 
not all lore is sad y'all
who is voi.
Somebody that we used to know
sometimes it’s like I can still hear voi’s voice 😔
DONT JINX IT!!! 
Hi guys, did they add the invisible cape on live game?
Why are so many people asking about the invisible cape who started up the rumor mill again.
Which one of you did it. 
Which goober.
invis not coming to live peeps ...
I saw several IG accounts talking about it as if it was a fact 🫠
I will say this isn't entirely correct if it's a broad sweeping statement. It could come to live SOME day, but why people think recently is beyond me. And if that's what u meant (like that it won't be coming to live soon but could one day), then ignore me.
Last statement we got from a dev basically said maybe but there isn't a planned date. Here it is:
You all are reading into the invisible cape entirely too much.
There is NO planned date for this item to be released to the Live game at this time. We understand that this is a long-anticipated, highly desirable item, but we are not ready to introduce it to the Live game yet.
To help clear confusion, I'll be deleting and or unpinning old messages about the cape.
From ktjn April 2021
#beta-discussion message
Again though there has been no recent indicator that it would come soon. Idk why people are saying that. We've been in "maybe some day" limbo for years.
@ below yes bc 3 people have come in here asking us about it saying they were told it will be here soon so it's a relevant discussion again
we're really back on the invisible cape discussion again? 
@ the person up above me, ah. that explains it 
whats a doot
Hey… thanks for the reply but I don’t have the same results. Can you explain or show how you get it to work. See my post here #beta-screenshots-videos message the prop disappeared for me when I drag/swipe it out. Thanks
Permission to DM about this?
Sure thing! Just to clarify though I am referring to the live version of the game so I’ll be posting it in #screenshots-and-videos
I took a look and your swipe just needed to be a bit faster, almost like the flick movement for doing a flip in midair. #screenshots-and-videos message

pray with me that the mysterious isle pole means something for the next season 
There's been a lot of talk about mysterious things happening in beta. It's almost as if it were a T.V. show... titled:
"Mysterious Happenings in Sky Beta".
The diamond icon has been a placeholder for season guides in the past so it is very likely but not guarenteed
Ok THANKS! I got it to work a couple times. Even in glide mode, which is where I mostly use it. Still not as nice as the old way and hope they still not done trying to put it back the way it was :( Thank again for the reply
i feel like if the next season is in isle, it’s either going to be about immigration or archaeology somehow
in quick dev updates there's an information about another update
huh again live... we want beta
You’re so welcome, I’m glad you got it working! 
I feel like there will be a new update in a week🥹 or i hope🥹|| Maybe the new season starts||
Awaiting doot.
Impatiently, but at the same time patiently. There are a couple of strange things occurring within the beta but that statue being where the TS normally is has struck me as odd. Anyone been able to figure out if it made it to the Live version as well? I know I've heard about that strange Isle diamond beneath the terrain, but I'm more intrigued by that statue in the place of TS. 
It’s me I’m the statue 💕
its definitely there in stormlock, can confirm 
goes to draw fen as a statue-
||/j ..unless.....||
unless…..
I think I missed all the hullabaloo bout this TS statue. When is it showing up for people? I did notice it shows in both live and beta during the intro zoom in when you first open the game. It’s not always been there? And just now bugging out and showing at different times? Not sure what the hype is bout.
kinda bummed that not placing shared spaces and memories inside grandma's place and around geyser top didnt make it to live cuz arg, theres a lot of them there
That's what everyone is trying to figure out. The hype is because it may be a revision to the TS system, but nobody knows for sure. Some speculate that, or it could be an unused asset, or even a potential leak that slipped. At this point everyone wants to know why that strange occurrences such as the Isle diamond and the statue by the TS pool are happening. But the only thing we can do now is wait and find out, AKA WAFO.
Or panic, we could also panic.
Very slowly...
Be careful not to explode... Apparently you can explode.
Instructions unclear, I exploded.
steampunk?
it would fit in Tinkerbell style at most 
they are?
Office golem as guide.
Hi! Do we still have aurora concerts in beta? Sorry i was inactive for a while and i dont know the latest info
The cape function is disabled in beta
Edit: Yes I mean that function. Thanks misty 
the cape function works - so the coliseum can be accessed - but the concert will never play once u are there
It took me a couple rereads to realize what I think you meant, now I can’t help but imagine that massive stone fellow towering over everyone and everything at Home whilst doing the classic quest giver pose

I just built 2 shared spaces that make afk wax possible again 
whens there gonna be a season on the ISS huh
over a week without beta update im losing hearing in my left eye and sense of smell in my right ear
My crops are withering and everything is drying up 
where is updateeeeeee
Anxiety hitting hard
Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live!
Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well 
I ate it
No more updates 
I can say that there will be no update today. (We've been working on the hotfix stuff.) So.... WAFOs, anyone? 🧇
Can I have a wafo with a ridiculous amount of butter pls
(also hi sago, hope you're having a good day
)
"Panqueques" with "dulce de leche" please. I don't know how to make wafos.
it's pretty much the same
Not even hotfix update? /gen
not even beta doot?
Life Hotfix⚠️ > Beta doot
Yes please if it's gluten free
We are in the "Food delusional" stage of no updates.
*casually cuts Tetris shaped pieces out of wafos
clearly we need to waiting room harder 🙂
All of our Sky updates are 100% certified to be gluten free 😌
what about peanut free 🥜
Wow, nothing to talk about so we resort into randomness 
Was about to make a joke about bugs, but apparently they're also gluten free... A win win.
Do all of you still experience strange shard server mechanism in beta? It improved a lot but I still experience server merge with other users (or plants autoburn) very unlikely during shard cleansing but almost instantly after shard cleansing is done, even if it is just a black shard
i feel like a starving victorian orphan eating bread crusts and gruel rn
Sago can I get wafos with a large bowl of maple syrup dipping sauce
I wish the new look was reversed for the memory & shared space spells 
i wish they were all diamons but diff colours, the memory lamps still look cluttered


