beta-discussion

[sudden pine]

i think someone said it did

[maiden pond]

Awesome, then that will be fun.

[analog citrus]

Yes.. I’m pretty sure it did. But I forgot I had it on so when it got broken with the first hit (I don’t thing there was the typical animation) I thought the krill just bounced off me cause I was butterfly. lol. Then I got blasted on my second go round with Mr krill… oops RIP

This has probably been mentioned already but the shared space spell really should be like a timed spell or a prop. The backpack would make so much more sense if it’s your “shared space” that you carry around and can set down where you want and hang with your friends. Then just goes away. They can keep the shared space crystals where they got them now but there’s no reason we need these things lying all over the place. And it would also fix the problem on where you can place the things right now

[light wave]

oh my god yes!! i think i remember the animation you’re talking about. That would equally be a powerful ulti!!!

I personally have absolutely no problem if TGC decided to use all the light creatures in the kingdom of sky to make props that gives us insta charge.

👁👄👁

remembrance ulti is sadly slower than tiki torch from what i can gather

[analog current]

Is there a picture of a max height skykid hugging spirits? Was curious how it looked when you’re actually closer to the height of a spirit and not a chibi haha

[hollow compass]

Any solution regarding the last quest? Or is it bugged?

[sudden pine]

what about the last quest?

[analog citrus]

I was able to complete it just fine

[coral cosmos]

is the last remembrance cutscene bugged, or do these spirits just not ascend like the rest?

[cerulean imp]

i didn't get the cutscene it acted like i did though

[ancient ermine]

did days of bloom testing end already? did i miss it?

[austere merlin]

I’m very confused, does this mean it’s illegal? #beta-screenshots-videos message

[mellow tangle]

TGC is messing a lot with the servers capabilities 👀
Maybe, in a near future, we'll have more than 8 people per server?

[gilded basin]

they're just joking, jaws probably did some map shrine magic like she always does

[spark lance]

You’re kidding..is there any video I can look at?

[left quest]

What’s the point of the recharge function then 😭

[maiden pond]

@swift belfry in regards to your idea in this link, Valley could be snowmen that when interacted with show a Sky kid emerging from it!

Wasteland could have floating darkness plants. It'll be displayed on the ground as a mini-darkness petal and when a Sky kid tries to burn it, it'll fly up and float underneath the Sky kid!

#beta-screenshots-videos message

[quiet obsidian]

anyone know how to do the final quest? it’s telling me the spirits aren’t satisfied

OHHH NVM I GET IT

[swift belfry]

Oh right ! I love the idea of snowman
For GW, I though of will-o’-the-wisp, like light that could guide you in the darkness

[maiden pond]

I submitted my feedback with my ideas as to how the memory lanterns should change.

[thorn temple]

I know for sure id want praire to be flowers, and forest to be mushrooms for memories

But snowmans are so cutee for valley

[ancient ermine]

speaking of those i cant do the pleading spirits quest because they're in the way of the shared space notification

[iron elbow]

squeak is right, I'm just messing with people who don't know my lore

btw, as a general psa to beta, home map shrine is absolutely loaded with stuff rn
interact with it or not - your decision to make, but I'm just warning you, it's gonna end in something

and I'll be here, posting cryptic screenshots and working on a report for sagomay ✍️🦈

[stuck condor]

map shrine is just a multiverse portal at this point 💀

[spark lance]

I am constantly in fear of that shrine

[opaque cipher]

The map shrine glitch is totally fine and should be left alone, messing with the multiverse could bring disastrous consequences

[sudden pine]

map shrine is sky 100% season speedrun arbitrary code execution strat

[stuck condor]

There’s totally a way to just instantly teleport to orbit with it

[frosty trout]

working on a report

Reports welcomed from anyone and everyone. I know these bugs seem like harmless amusement, but up til now we saw that it's a razor's edge between "harmless amusement" and "completely screwing up something really important for players."

[stuck condor]

id still say the burnt stick kid glitch was wilder than this lol

[frosty trout]

And because of how weird/far-reaching it seems to be, it's not a safe assumption that if we tried to leave the "harmless" part of it in place, some other part of this bug wouldn't pop up later to do something just as bad

[iron elbow]

(its really bad this build, sago, like bad bad)

[austere merlin]

What can it do jaws

[frosty trout]

I'd like to ask that we not trade information about it, since some of these bugs tie into exploits that would violate TOS.

[spark lance]

...and that just made me 10x more scared of touching the shrine

[opaque cipher]

It seems to me like the map shrines are connected to trigger commands on the back end of the code, something in there says <player-sits X times --trigger.exe (y-cutscene)> or something

[austere merlin]

That’s funny

[little vapor]

When will the quota for the test version be distributed😭

[quiet obsidian]

at this point they should just remove map shrines altogether ||/j||

[gilded basin]

i hope years from now we get to see whatever's going on with the map shrines

[opaque cipher]

The shape is weird, I think it needs to be restructured

[gilded basin]

they could have stripes like those fancy tulips from the tulip craze

[lilac solstice]

Another map shrine bug? Guess I'll keep avoiding them for now

[opaque cipher]

No, the old one just evolved

[sudden pine]

generally, do love the map shrine especially when you get a bunch of wings knocked out of you while taunting krills as a butterfly

[opaque cipher]

It's a sky-rus that evolves to stay alive

Plot twist, the bug is just a work of the Eden King exacting revenge on TGC for not being in the final version of the game

[peak mason]

idk how packets work but there's another game I play where players used the replay cutscene functions to leak cutscenes that weren't accessible yet using packets

[stuck condor]

at the end of the map shrine multiverse is the king (real)

[opaque cipher]

Anyone else feel like it's hard to steer as a butterfly in ark?

[peak mason]

it is important to note however that these people were doing it on purpose while the map shrine is almost anything but

[ancient ermine]

please dont ping the staff <:<

[daring sun]

Careful about cold pings...

Also sagomay is the messenger, it would be better to send that idea in feedback so they can pass it on to the TGC staff as a whole

[frosty trout]

Yeah, I don't make decisions about the economy, what cosmetics to make, etc., but I do go through #beta-feedback and make sure information gets shared with the different teams. If you haven't posted in there already, please do!

[peak mason]

it is both surprising and unsurprising how many people blatantly do not read and follow the rules and faq channels

[daring sun]

I don't mind helping people most times, but yeahhh-

[peak mason]

maybe it's partially a side effect of a global game only having English and Indonesian discord support but even beyond that

[daring sun]

That's a very true point

[vagrant fable]

Even if we don't take language barriers into consideration, some people just don't read (even when they're perfectly capable of doing so)

[kindred prawn]

What do you mean by using packets

[agile hazel]

I read that as pancakes

[peak mason]

no idea! that's just what the dev explanation said

[spark lance]

A packet is basically a unit of data grouped together that travels along a computer network

[stuck condor]

ah that clears it up thank you

<- pretending he has any idea what that means

[kindred prawn]

Might you b a comp sci major?

[spark lance]

No, just someone who really likes computers

[agile hazel]

Or a packet of chips

[gilded basin]

skycord if people read the patch notes and known issues channels: [futuristic utopia]

[frosty trout]

I can't be too surprised if there are people who don't read/miss/skip written info. It's one of the hazards of the internet. But sometimes I do go into emoji mode when I see people make assumptions that they probably wouldn't if they'd read information that's already been posted.

But, still, it's helpful though to have other folks giving polite reminders, especially since we have people from so many different languages/ages/cultures here.

[cursive tinsel]

So what do you think is the final count on the number of butterflies in the stress test?

And how many winged light lost?

[urban shadow]

Many wl lost I bet, it was fun to see the Krill tho.

[crude vortex]

Im sad that you're no longer able to ride on mantas from the ult reward

[rocky parrot]

[frosty trout]

Could you clarify? The change in 211443 should have made it so that you can still float on the projected mantas, it's just that they won't swoop you off the ground (as in, without you wanting to float on them)

[twin isle]

They still let me ride but don't mantanap me anymore

[spark lance]

Same here, I just tested it

[frosty trout]

Phew

If people really want a prop with a Prairie Mantanapping feature, please let us know via #wishlist-and-ideas-archived or #beta-feedback

[sudden pine]

is that like, a prop that spawns a giant manta out of the ground?

[daring sun]

Yes and steals your skid from whatever task its doing

[crude vortex]

Oh that makes sense, I thought they gotten rid the manta riding entirely. Im glad they improved it more

[kindred prawn]

my first Q in beta as soon as i got the ult was "can i ride the mantas" and i was devastated when you couldnt... so thx for putting in the feature where we can ride them, i think its so cute

[tropic bough]

I just saw a memory thing with a really tall and oddly shaped sky kid

[twin isle]

Doot?

This build includes testing for:

• Increased number of items that can be placed in Shared Spaces at the Shared Space shrine in Prairie
• Other bug fixes and improvements

[kindred prawn]

DOOT??

[twin isle]

We are being so well fed recently in beta it's crazy 😭

[noble hill]

Sooo, uh, it takes more wax to forge a candle now? On top of everything else that's been going on this is ridiculous

[molten sun]

WHAT

[kindred prawn]

Yeah.

60 more wax to get rid of the first chev
120 more wax to get rid of the second chev
60 more wax to get rid of the remaining one chev

[molten sun]

I cannot believe this... they REALLY want people to leave the game

[faint comet]

I've only just caught up with Sky Beta and here I am witnessing a rather stupid thing that TGC have done. So basically they are nerfing all power recharge items now? And for what? So Bonfire would only be the superior recharge item?

If y'all don't want to give players an unfair advantage, then you might as well half the recharge speed of Belonging UG, Bonfire. Make it in par with recharge speed of other recharge items.

[kindred prawn]

I thi k Clement or someone did an inforgraphic regarding this

[noble hill]

It's ridiculous for sure. I don't know what changed in the last year but if they keep this up, they're going to run out of players to exploit

[molten sun]

where?

[kindred prawn]

I’m u sure how to look it up hold on

[proud coral]

on top of the new afk timer changes too 💀

[kindred prawn]

All about Chevrons (Updated February 2,2023)
By Nami
#questions-and-help message

[noble hill]

For the record, I realize that the majority of TGC employees have no say in this. The blame goes on the higher-ups who are approving these changes

[twin isle]

TGC with a 2 minute afk time out: better take ur bathroom breaks fast on ur group CRs folks

[kindred prawn]

BY CMO

#questions-and-help message

@molten sun

[spark lance]

Oh doot??

[molten sun]

tyy, I'm shocked it's like they actively want people to stop playing

[kindred prawn]

Yeahhh I realized this too late 😅 srry for all the former hate on tgc community devs

[halcyon epoch]

I’m just waiting for the next drought to be horrible

[proud coral]

It's hard to swallow these changes and honestly I can't even pretend to be ok with it. I'd love to love changes to the game but they are making it so hard. The fact that there was absolutely nothing in the patch notes is kind of sneaky too. Some transparency would be nice instead of users needing to scour the game for the data

[daring sun]

Just gotta say- the higher ups arent necessarily always to blame as if they are bad ppl, staff and higher ups may have had their reasons for any changes they have made and we just dont know those reasons , but giving our feedback is helpful for them to refine the game more and steer it in the intented goal they had in mind

Edit: typos

[molten sun]

lowering the prices but raising the amount of light needed to forge candles, wow ty so much TGC 😍

[kindred prawn]

Bruh what else reasons for the change other than buy candle packs. The afk timer and wax collection system was fine before. Like let things alone that ain’t broke yknow what I mean

[daring sun]

Yeah i agree, but assuming that they just want us to buy more packs is not a proven fact (yet) but i agree the percentage of that liklihood is pretty high

[kindred prawn]

Did you make a new video ab these changes?

[proud coral]

Well there's no way of proving it, but at the end of the day it's a company and they want to make money

@kindred prawn not yet, just learned about the AFK timer yesterday. Planning on doing so if I have time this weeked

[molten sun]

there's no other reason behind it, like try to come up with one...

[daring sun]

Yeah, true.

All companies do in fact need money to pay the employees that are working to make this game better

[frosty trout]

So basically they are nerfing all power recharge items now?
Can I ask where people are hearing these kinds of rumors?

[noble hill]

Obviously it's a very stressful thing to do, but I think a video on the issues might be beneficial. If we can get enough people talking about the changes, TGC is more likely to work with their players again. After what the D&D community accomplished with Wizards, I at least have some hope that we can do something

[proud coral]

FROM ME 👹
No I have no clue :o

[kindred prawn]

Ermmm I think the rumour was brought up sometime last night? Or the night before? Was here in beta chat By a few people too not just one… I think

[frosty trout]

(also standard PSA that I'll post more details about the new build later today )

[twin isle]

I didn't hear that explicitly but I think it's just frustrating we can't have an ult be equal to bonfire.

So it feels like all the other items are nerfed when compared to it. Maybe that's what they meant.

[molten sun]

is it coming with an explanation for why more wax is needed to forge candles now? 🤔

[kindred prawn]

I’m pst timezone by the way and it was arojnd midnight iirc.., I stay up too late for my own good 😭

[daring sun]

They could be wanting us to be more picky about the items we buy, and not feel like we should be buying everything for fomo, try to improve the culture of sky because i know ive had complaints about the fomo culture of sky fs, but in my personal opinion i dont see this as the fix for it , just giving a possible point of view where they could have good intentions but we are just unaware, and good intentions doesnt always mean the right decision

[molten sun]

lol no... if the issue is FOMO why would you worsen it by making getting currency HARDER?! this literally makes no sense, it's all about money now...

[twin isle]

(side note omg is anyone's update taking forever)

vv (mine usually doesn't 😭)

[kindred prawn]

Mine always takes forever lmao

[proud coral]

My doot was super fast :o

[spark lance]

I don't even HAVE the update yet

i just got the update, did they add anything new besides increasing the props in shared space?

[twin isle]

Maybe just my internet being slow rn

[tame osprey]

Yes

[kindred prawn]

Oh dang I was gonna cr sc for beta then realized I have to wait till beta is done updating 😬

[quasi mica]

Does anyone else have problems with lighting your friends stars?

[spark lance]

Nvm I finally got the doot

[indigo gale]

there's a doot?

or was it the same doot as the other day?

[sudden pine]

still cant skip in a memory 😦

[hollow parcel]

Me. They show as unlit but no option to light them when I bring them down.

[sudden pine]

but big skipping works! and no sneaking

[wheat panther]

Yes! Just updated with no icon to light

[quasi mica]

Ok so it isn't just me, we should report in bugs

[hollow parcel]

Im in the process of reporting it now.

[vital crystal]

Doo? Doot.

[hazy prawn]

Beta update

[spark lance]

ghost lanterns? 👀

[placid grail]

How can I join the beta version?

[indigo gale]

Read #beta-faq

[placid grail]

@indigo gale thank you

[hazy prawn]

ehhhh, these Ghosts lantern is a good try but I preferred before the projector was much more creative
Nice try TGC
but perform better

[kindred prawn]

I like the small diamonds being the new memory candles. Looks cool

[hazy prawn]

Buuuuuut
they fixed something that was finally wanting, now you can place a props item and be able to pick up another item without this props item disappearing from the ground, like an instrument
Thanks TGC

[twin isle]

I like the ghost lanterns and memory diamonds but they dooo also seem kinda bright in dark areas. Normally is fine but in gw my eyes go "hey tone it down pal"

[spark lance]

Hello

i THINK the shared space and shared memory lanterns should spawn less in an area imo

[ashen tusk]

Hold up, we have another update? I'm used to barren land between updates pls tgc I can't keep up

[twin isle]

Still wish we had toggles for the boats, Memory diamonds, and the share space lamps.

[spark lance]

We getting spoiled this week!!!!

[sudden pine]

we haven't had a chaotic photoshop battle in DAYS

[spark lance]

also the 2023 cape should've been 95 candles 😔

[ashen tusk]

I have no idea what to do with all the bugs I found in the last few builds I'm trying to keep track of them and I'm failing miserably

[twin isle]

Sending in stuff abt the ghost lanterns and memory diamonds as well as continued feedback about the manta ult and DND mode. The latter two haven't changed but I don't want them to think I forgot!!

[hazy prawn]

not going to lie, it got better transparent, but when you activated the lantern, it became solid and worked like a projector again like before, because it looks weird the crystal following Skykid

[ashen tusk]

My update isn't finished yet so I can't check, but does the crystal follow us from behind still? Cause maybe it would be good that when we activate a memory crystal it goes above our kid and shines down like the lamps in the rem spirit relives?

[late sonnet]

Yes the crystal does still follow you
I loooove the new change to them, it's what I was looking forward to when it was implemented and it looks way cuter and less like clutter
More magical

[ashen tusk]

as beta chat is my witness I will somehow break my kid away from the code so it can bonk the crystal to stop it from chasing me

[sudden pine]

and they are much easier to distinguish from each other

[ashen tusk]

Oh the shared space icon has changed now too lil hammer prop in game when?

[agile hazel]

last update

[spark lance]

it changed??? I'm deffo gonna hop on to see that as soon as I get home, I wanna see what it looks like now

[ashen tusk]

Um so I was standing on home plate and a golden glitter trail just appeared at the right and curved towards eden then disappeared and I'm confused

[indigo gale]

aurora might want a visit from you

[wet light]

Oh wow another shattering season confirmed

[ashen tusk]

What is she doing leading me to Eden

[vital crystal]

Ah no more bloom flowers at ark too. 😔

[pulsar blade]

Is days of love or bloom already in live

[lunar violet]

Not yet

[late sonnet]

bloom is still in beta, love is what’s arriving in live if you check #news

….the second phase of lantern lighting in vault elevator doesn’t have a skip button
for ground level
scratch that all the skip buttons are gone

[ashen tusk]

So we gotta watch now? I'm gonna close my eyes

[kindred fossil]

Gawd darn another bug

[lyric kite]

Yeah all of the skip buttons for Vault cutscenes have disappeared in this build, I'm assuming it's a bug

[late sonnet]

gonna repoooooort
people already hate running vault in live for the cutscene reason, return the skips 😂

[sudden pine]

oh its very nice how all the other shared space lanterns just kinda turn mostly transparent

[late sonnet]

just face planted into wasteland
i think all the skips were messed with

[kindred fossil]

Ruh oh Shaggy

[ashen tusk]

can't make me watch a cutscene I don't wanna, I won't make eye contact with sky when running vault, I refuse

[lyric kite]

Oof, if skips are missing in other places too that really makes me think it's probably a bug. Maybe a check box got unchecked accidentally or something

[late sonnet]

can someone go check if temple cutscenes are unskippable now too
all temple ones should be skippable as is so, just any of em

[kindred fossil]

Wasteland temple?

[ashen tusk]

maybe they were adding skips for* cutscenes for valley boats and hit the wrong button

I have to say, I kinda like the lil memory crystals, I wanna pick them up and put them in my pocket - I think this is entirely relating to me missing beloved shattering crystal guide

[kindred fossil]

I just checked Prairie temple, it's not skipable

[lyric kite]

Seems like they also changed something about the title cards for the different areas, they go across the whole screen again now instead of just small text in the corner

[late sonnet]

it’s the crystal guide’s nieces n nephews 🤲

[sudden pine]

do not eat the memory crystals

[spark lance]

....I literally was about to come in chat to say that I wanna eat the memory crystals

[lyric kite]

Valley temple cutscenes not skippable either

[late sonnet]

okay sat down for sliding race and there is not a skip button in sight
I think all skips have been disabled

[ashen tusk]

some of yall might be married to perf or enchant guide, but shattering guide is my beloved and these memory crystals are my lil friends and family

[idle nexus]

Yep, seems like you can't skip anything.

[frosty trout]

I think it's a safe assumption that skips disappearing is a bug

[iron elbow]

...ya know what's funny
im finishing up some testing in the previous build
and i just saw the big title cards randomly show up
and i was like "oh i broke my game files! fun! "
glad it isn't the case

[late sonnet]

thank you for confirming it’s a bug and not intentional i was about to be real concerned 😂

[kindred fossil]

What I'm saying, looks like a bug

[frosty trout]

Betaaaaaaa

[agile hazel]

Still have to deal with the memory rocks running away from you

[kindred fossil]

They're... camera shy

[ashen tusk]

I sent a bug report cause some of them weren't (if someone is sitting playing an instrument they barely move)

which I'm hoping that's the intended feature of them and not the run away ones cause they're so weird 😭

[agile hazel]

The issue IS that they run away. I can't turn them off if I can't get close

[kindred fossil]

That's hilarious, keep it

[ashen tusk]

Was trying to shut off the one I had watched with a kid just standing still and the crystal was playing can't catch me, it was fr annoying

[frosty trout]

Are you playing with a controller or touch screen?

[agile hazel]

I tried both, it's just slightly easier with controller since it targets the icon

[ashen tusk]

touch screen - they do an escape

[late sonnet]

oh hey friends don’t have any lighting ability in constellation either so that’s fun
can’t send lights

[night imp]

Is everybody having issues not being able to skip cutscenes. I play with a controller. Actually it doesnt even give me an option for touch screen skip. Wow vault is a pain right now

[sudden pine]

not skipping cutscenes means you cant get jumpscared by giant prairie mantanapper

[agile hazel]

The only time the mantas don't kidnap you is when you need it for the daily

[frosty trout]

Am I understanding right that there are no skip buttons for cutscenes anywhere at all?

[kindred fossil]

Correct, they're just gone

[frosty trout]

What's the fun in that??

[quiet obsidian]

is anyone else seeing weird sparkles around the vault, gw, valley, and eden portals specifically? or have i just done an oopsie somewhere and encountered a bug

they like swirl in the bottom of the portal it’s pretty neat

[sudden pine]

you can see your incoming impending doom

[frosty trout]

Could you post a screenshot in the beta screenshot channel? It could be something related to Days of Bloom, or a bug, but it would be helpful to see it

[night imp]

Vault with no cutscenes 🤪

[sudden pine]

are they like fine orange sparkles? cuz i saw a thing like that in someones shared space ?

[frosty trout]

For our newest beta testers, welcome to the joyful surprises of beta testing!

[agile hazel]

New testers? What

[ashen tusk]

YOU SAW IT TOO? I never managed to get a screenshot or video so I doodled over a screenshot to show the kinda thing it was then sent it to bug reports

[late sonnet]

honestly it makes me glad i do some level of CR in beta so i could notice these changes early

[quiet obsidian]

the screenshots are posted

[frosty trout]

No I mean just the folks who joined the last time we did a wave. To all the lurkers out there, no there are no new invites and we don't have an invite wave scheduled at this time 😅

[sudden pine]

oh, yea, saw that in someones shared space

[vital nexus]

tried to go down into Golden wasteland and i crashed no krill for me

[ashen tusk]

Nvm my sparkles were different to Chook's

[quiet obsidian]

sky beta just decided to get extra sparkly today

[late sonnet]

/turns on a prairie bell/ no skip buttonnnnn

[frosty trout]

Is it still possible to send hearts through the constellation?

[agile hazel]

We should keep those portal sparkles

[frosty trout]

@quiet obsidian are you on iOS or Android?

[late sonnet]

it’s completely greyed out
I can still have the warp button show up for online friends but sending hearts is impossible

[quiet obsidian]

ios

[frosty trout]

Man. Butterflies really got mad we wouldn't let them bully crabs.

[left quest]

The butterflies got into the coding.

[agile hazel]

Oh yeah my light friend icon is gone too

[kindred fossil]

You know what they want.

[sudden pine]

butterflies and crabs should be friends

[quiet obsidian]

i love spending my friday night watching beta descend into chaos the ideal evening

[frosty trout]

Look I just wanted a peaceful Friday night

[kindred fossil]

The butterflies are headed to your location, run

[left quest]

Peaceful and beta in the same area? 🤨🤨
/joking

[quiet obsidian]

alright i need to stop talking i have things to test i shall return

[agile hazel]

Got the portal sparkles too on Android 13. Want to keep it honestly, it looks nice

[sudden pine]

what are you guys doin puttin stuff out on a friday 🙂

[signal folio]

Team butterfly approves of this message
🤝

[ashen tusk]

Why does everyone else get sparkles under each portal but I only get it under vault? Beta is being unfair to me

[agile hazel]

Did you update?

[lyric kite]

I'm only seeing portal swirls under Wasteland, Vault, and Eden. None of the other portals have it

[vital nexus]

i got them under vault and eden, had some under wasteland but they poofed

[iron elbow]

does anyone recognize the sparkles from ye olden days, or is it a completely new thing?

[ashen tusk]

Yay welcome to the not all portals are sparkly gang!

[hot aurora]

'Ye olden days' 😂

[sudden pine]

my memory of ye olden days is not that good 🙂

[late sonnet]

oh wow my portals are also sparkly

[ashen tusk]

OH HELLO EDEN HAS SPARKLES BUT LIKE RIGHT INSIDE THE PORTAL

[frosty trout]

As always, we appreciate it if you could send in bug reports through the beta bug report channels for the issues you find. The more detail our QA folks have about device type, OS, and exactly what you did that led up to the bug appearing, the easier it will be to figure out the cause and the solution.

[sudden pine]

all my portals are sparkly except isle

[agile hazel]

I want the pretty sparkles to stay

[spark lance]

Yeah, they’re so cute!

[late sonnet]

you know what’s weird
i have a video showing the no friend lighting problem and it had the ability to send hearts then but now it’s disappeared entirely (i relaunched beta)

[fast skiff]

Aww just saw the sparkles at each portal’s entrance - they’re pretty cool let’s keep it

[lyric kite]

As far as I know there isn't a flower crown for Days of Bloom. There is a pink flower crown for Days of Love, which is the next event that will be in live in a couple of weeks, maybe that's what you were thinking of

[agile hazel]

rip Isle is the only one without sparkles

[vital nexus]

is it normal for shared space lanterns to be glowing-

[maiden pond]

@ashen tusk in regards to that trail thingy. I think that might be a hint to a future collab. Remember when there was a sparkly blue dot on the right where Aurora would appear for a split second before appearing in front of the Return Shrine? I think this might be a assest to a future collab season.

#beta-screenshots-videos message

[lyric kite]

Also signing in to live again and being greeted by a cluster of ugly memory candles is making me really appreciate the change to crystals, I hope it stays like this (already left feedback about it)

[ashen tusk]

I've never heard of the aurora thing, but if it was a hint to another collab that's fun, seems more likely a bug though

[night imp]

I had no portal sparkles until I logged off game and logged on again. Now I see them except at Isle.

[maiden pond]

Before Aurora there was a blue dot that appeared on the right when logging in. It was there during Aurora and when the concert happened her model would appear where the light blue light dot was for a split second when logging in, and then appear at the Return Shrine.

[iron elbow]

and that means "future collab" how?

[light wave]

heyy sorry for the late reply but i got 2 youtube videos.

This one is just seeing the recharge speed of the Remembrance ult:
https://youtu.be/DX9yfydOSfc

And here is a japanese Youtuber who is comparing it with the current recharge items:
https://youtu.be/eG5aP0lFLWw

Hope this was helpful

[kindred fossil]

I wish I had old videos to reference but I don't remember such a thing

[iron elbow]

checked lightseekers cutscenes just to be sure, there was nothing of that sort

[lilac solstice]

It looks more like a bug to me. No reference to any collabs imo just cuz sparkles. Honestly I hope it's not a Collab yet, my wallet is still recovering rn

[kindred fossil]

Maybe it's for when you open a new portal as a moth?

[late sonnet]

tbh if there was a collab incoming, TGC would have announced it in some capacity like they hyped up aurora for a good while

[lilac solstice]

They did the same with lpp too.

[frosty trout]

If it looks like a bug, throws you for a loop like a bug, and makes you squint your eyes like a bug....

[kindred prawn]

I play on controller and so far I can skip the cutscenes.

[kindred fossil]

Those blue dots were the Elder portal eyes

[ashen tusk]

Welp just crashed going into wasteland bloom really said "I'm over and I'm taking cloud toilet realm with me"

[whole plank]

At first it was just the vault, but when I went to the prairies and the wasteland and then back to HOME, the portals started glowing except at dawn!

[kindred prawn]

Let game crashed one time when I was going into the easteland toilet

[agile hazel]

Can't skip wasteland toilet either, using a controller

[ashen tusk]

Sagomay when we crash and testflight does the pop up for us to share a report and we click through with that do we still need to send a bug report here in discord or will all the data be sent back to you guys through the app report?

[night imp]

I play on controller too and could not skip scenes. Weird.

[kindred prawn]

Huh I was fine skipping easteland toilet w controller. Are you playing switch or ps4

Bc I have my controller Bluetooth Ed to my iPad and I play that way

[late sonnet]

when I relaunched my game all of them were glowing so I think it just happened a bit after the update was released
I'm on android so I don't think it's an ios specific bug

[frosty trout]

@ashen tusk I'll be honest, I'm not sure how those two methods may be handled differently. The app report does capture all relevant data, IIRC, so that should be enough

[hot aurora]

Am I the only one who lost all my volume? Just verifying bc it could just be my old phone. (My game settings volume and phone volume was max, (sky is silent) but when I play regular music it's fine)

[agile hazel]

ps4 controller

[quiet obsidian]

oh i have a thought i’m pretty sure the sparkles in portals are linked to no cutscene skips and being unable to light and send hearts to friends, i remember seeing those sparkles as portals open after you visit realms for the first time, so maybe the game thinks we’re all fresh moths again for some reason

[kindred prawn]

I use switch pro

[iron elbow]

OHH that would explain the big titles!!

[kindred prawn]

My skykid in live got kidnapped to aurora concert again via orbit 💀 there were 183 people who experienced the concert w me

[late sonnet]

I met up with bubba and for some reason she could send hearts to me but it was totally locked out on my end despite the friendship being upgraded high enough
nerfeeddddd friendshippppp

[iron elbow]

and that's beta chat

[ashen tusk]

This might explain why I just logged back in and got sparkles for wasteland after crashing there, not sure why I had vault and eden sparkles already though

[kindred fossil]

That's what I'm thinking

[kindred prawn]

No one’s tried this in beta right. The time is XX:53

[agile hazel]

Having to sit through this Vault cutscene

[sudden pine]

i dont see big text tho ?

[night imp]

Oh Lordy

[iron elbow]

try wind paths, that's where i saw them
(with caution)

[kindred fossil]

We can't test it in beta when there's no concerts scheduled

[frosty trout]

Please send a bug report for this one in #report-a-live-bug

[ashen tusk]

So I'm guessing the flavour text that appears when we first play popping up across the middle of our screens when we enter realms is a bug cause it should just be the smaller text that appears in the left corner when you enter different realm section?

For example, I went into vault just earlier and got the flavour text about ascending the levels (I don't remember exactly what it said cause brain too busy with sparkles) instead of the usual "vault of knowledge" bit at the side

Or maybe they changed it to be big unmissable text

[sudden pine]

i got big text for windpaths but not sanctuary by entering from windpaths 🙂

[calm wedge]

I'm having trouble recording. It says, " This feature isn't available for your account"

[lyric kite]

Yeah it's probably a bug, and it seems like it might be connected to the cutscenes not being skippable and not being able to send light like some people are theorizing. The text appears that way when you go through the realms for the first time as a moth, so it seems like maybe part of the game thinks that we're all new players for some reason. But it's still weird though because not all of it is consistent except for the cutscene skips not working for anyone

[calm wedge]

The text is not just big, it's slowwww

[ashen tusk]

The peaceful Friday night is nowhere in sight for anybody it would seem

[lilac solstice]

There's never peace in the world of beta

[ashen tusk]

Wasteland let me back in

[vital crystal]

What's peace? Asked the beta tester.

[spark lance]

Ooooh vault portal sparkly

Eden sparkly too

[late sonnet]

the thought just occurred to me while making the report if the unskippable ability only appears the first time you run the level but nope
just relit the vault lanterns and here we go again

[iron elbow]

that would also explain how I continuously got the big text, reset after reset, while being in the previous build, it's probably server related

[frosty trout]

For folks saying that the updated memory lantern diamond things move away from you before you get close enough to hide them, could you post a video if you have time?

[ashen tusk]

@late sonnet this could also explain why you couldn't send me a heart despite our friendship trees being chonky with progression, beta thinks you're a moth (I wonder why I'm a less mothy moth since I can still send hearts though)

[lilac solstice]

Oh boy. I get to experience mothness without being a moth

[kindred fossil]

We're stuck in a perma-moth loop

@ashen tusk flavor text appears in the middle of the screen for moths in their first playthrough, during their second playthrough it'll appear in the corner instead, it shouldn't for us

[late sonnet]

I flew into vault again and the big text smack in the middle showed up lmao
so this is just my life now (this is the second time I've flown into vault in the same session)

[ashen tusk]

yeah the big stuff has appeared each time I go into vault, no buffing up for us apparently

[kindred fossil]

2019 Sky simulator (barely any skipable cutscenes)

[late sonnet]

I'm gonna check in live because usually I just slam skip if the big text shows up
ye oke should be bottom left corner

[frosty trout]

@agile hazel thanks for the video--are you able to tap on the memory diamond/lantern icon while it's moving, or does the tapping bring up the menu only after the lantern stops moving?

[agile hazel]

I can still click on it. It's less of an 'issue' and more of an annoying quirk. The lantern should just stay still

Trying to find one where the person moves/runs away

[frosty trout]

Ah okay, thank you!

[sick pilot]

there’s a new update?

[kindred prawn]

Like you mean after you click on it? You try to hide it and it moves away from you too much?

[spark lance]

I can't tell if I'm going crazy but the lighting in village doesn't seem to be changing, despite there being an active shard currently going to the shard in live to compare

[vital crystal]

The lantern moving away from the player is actually a cool feature but the ui button of it being relative to that position of the diamond (long live the lantern) is the quite hard to catch part. Although it was worse in the first iteration because they all cluttered when watching one

[if like memory candles they can stay in place, it could be cool. Although it wouldn't seem natural anymore having a floating button with no object near it]

[whole plank]

prairie village text could only be seen once during the moth and i wanted to see it again, but i couldn't

[ashen tusk]

I think they've changed the lanterns that follow when you run away cause I checked my one in prairie from the other day when I ran around and the crystal stayed where it was generated a fact that I only realised after I chased my memory kid halfway across the social space to notice the crystal wasn't following

[late sonnet]

awww the fun doodle I made isn't real anymore 😔

[spark lance]

sagomay beta tester savior

[ashen tusk]

now it'll just be a memeory (meme.... memory.... that was bad I know)

[vital crystal]

Yeah the diamonds don't really follow you anymore.

Pls bring back the lantern case for the diamond or at least maybe not the whole of it 😔

[ashen tusk]

noooo don't take away my crystal children, I love them

[late sonnet]

love the new crystals way more
much more magical feeling to world of sky than.....candle litter 24/7

it feels like people left behind a smol box present for you to open 🤲

[ashen tusk]

I CAN'T TELEPORT HOME FROM ISLE, SAVE ME

[spark lance]

Can I PLEASE eat the crystals I really want to gnaw on them

[ashen tusk]

I thought maybe the sparkles register under each realm after you do the one previous to it because I went to prairie and suddenly sparkles under each realm from prairie onwards so I was like let's see what happens in isle AND NOW IM STUCK HERE

there's no progression in beta sing se, only moth

[sudden pine]

@frosty trout 2 videos, if the person doesn't move the crystal does move around, but if the person walks a bit then the crystal stays in place, i can interact with it if i can catch it

[vital crystal]

I'm not sure about me. I'm having mixed feelings about the diamond but them being glowing is actually nice. Also the transparent lantern of the shared spaces are dope

[spark lance]

Went into isle and now I'm stuck there too

[keen sage]

what's going on in here with everyone being in "moth status" again

[late sonnet]

beta being beta

[sudden pine]

enforced moth empathy day

[ashen tusk]

welcome to moth land, we have nothing here

I'm just going through temple cutscenes to see if it lets me home after, if not then off to prairie I go

[late sonnet]

isle be like
you will be here with us, forever

[gilded basin]

🫵

[sudden pine]

time to just do the runaway quest a bunch

[vital crystal]

Guess i won't enter isle

[ashen tusk]

nah you still can't home after the temple cutscenes so I guess we going through sky opening scene instead

sky open scene said no home after me either

made it to prairie, you can home from there!

[kindred fossil]

That's like when your parents tell you how they went to school

[ashen tusk]

also my theory about the sparkles being realm visited related didn't pan out when it comes to isle, still a sad little portal with no glitter

[spark lance]

I would have gone further but I just dropped sauce all over the floor and on myself bc whoever put it away did not put it in a good spot

[vital crystal]

Then grandparents climbing three more mountains and swimming an ocean...

[late sonnet]

my grandpa swam the ocean to enter hk so that's actually legit LOL

[hot aurora]

Uhhh
are moths that have the '' symbol above their head able to autohold you themselves? I lead one to a spirit and bowed goodbye 👋 but then they attached themselves again 😨

This is in vault and ofc all these cutscenes played like we were moths again

[ashen tusk]

report as family bug

[vital crystal]

Sounds like the guide feature is automatically activated for you?? Seen this behavior whenever i guide someone and unhold them...

[hot aurora]

Ohhh that's a thing? Never knew!
Just wondering if it's bug or not so thx 💥

[vital crystal]

Yeah. Although i don't know how they managed to learn to hold onto you again. (but you can offer them hand iirc)

[ashen tusk]

I thought it was supposed to work like someone requests a guide, you accept and when you let go they can't reattach? Because we have the option to accept the guide request cause button but they can't just autohold us?

[hot aurora]

Yeaa that's the weird part thought I could only kidnap and lead to spirits they need

[ashen tusk]

That's your moth forever now, you accepted the guide request now it's a lifetime commitment

[hot aurora]

Although it could be just an h word... Not sure ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Wondering mainly if they're adjusting the mechanic or not, bc it makes sense if the moth you're leading can autohold you for a certain amount of time if they accidentally let go!

[hot aurora]

NooooO I'm not ready to be a parent ｡⁠:ﾟ⁠(⁠;⁠´⁠∩⁠`⁠;⁠)ﾟ⁠:⁠｡ !! ;;

[indigo gale]

Is it safe to do the last quest? My game crashed while I was working on it and now it's all bugged; unable to interact with the spirits and move things around now.

[vital crystal]

I finished them fine. Although I still have to report that pressing the check button will prompt you to do the shared space prop placing again (but will register as finished as far as I've noticed) — i guess we still have to press the enter button from the keyboard

[vital crystal]

Replying from the ss channel hdkfjdh rip slowmo

As long as the request is active (until canceled or found a spirit!) ah u saw the edit nice

[hot aurora]

Ahh so even in live this is a thing how neat! ty again for taking the time to show a POV

[vital crystal]

Yup. Actually recorded that in live (cuz my beta friends are offline t.t)
Ywelcome! I was curious too

[oak kite]

sigh

REALLY?

Dropping the crab plushie by a SINGLE heart and making the manta plushie 17 hearts?

That is a molecule of a price change

[spark lance]

Is there gonna be a flower crown for this days of love?
Edit: YESSSSS, IVE BEEN SAVING-

[oak kite]

Dropping the price by a SINGULAR heart is actually insulting. I know there’s always complaints about prices but it's because the prices are always unreasonable. Really, when the whole world is telling you that you’re wrong, how do you not listen or understand? How can you sell a pixelated prop for like 17 hearts? One of the biggest aspects of this game is character customization, but they make it so frustrating. I adore this game but it lacks waaaayyy too much content to be this expensive.

[flint oak]

i really wish they added some sort of mini-game that you could easily collect candles or hearts by, to make it easier on all players. or just.. anything to make it essier

[ashen tusk]

It might seem like it in terms of hearts but if you consider how many candles it takes to get hearts when doing trades the difference looks slightly bigger

So to get both plushies when they're 20 hearts each it would take 120 candles but to get them when they're 17 and 19 hearts it costs 108 candles.

It's still small, honestly I think they could have made crab plush 17 as well but idk

You save 4 days of trading or trading with 4 people in one day with the new prices so it's something at least

[oak kite]

But still, at this point, it feels like TGC is being passive-aggressive and petty. This feels like, "We hear you but we don't really care or want to do anything, so here's a crumb now shut up and look at how generous we are" and I'm not liking it one single bit

[spark lance]

Ty for the helpful reply

[steep shell]

I have to agree with Lapin on this one... Dropping the price by only 1 and 3 hearts on the plushies, when people were making feedback on the prices, kinda feels like a slap on the face :/

[ashen tusk]

I mean the only thing I can say is at least they're not limited and at least they're f2p items, but I do agree that reducing the crab plush by 1 heart doesn't seem overly generous compared to the manta plush by 3 hearts - I'm also wondering why they're considered to be valued differently when they're both similar sizes and will probably be equally loved - if someone does prefer the crab plush though why do they have to pay more than those who prefer manta?

[spark lance]

The prices being different really confuses me but I'm glad they at least got somewhat reduced, though they definitely could be reduced more. Other props are cheaper than these plushies and provide more benefit, like the small pot in the assembly guide's tree

[hot aurora]

Rip season of rememberance moths who are grinding for chibi mask. These items will be available after the season, right? I haven't played the quest yet

Ok cool 🙏

[ashen tusk]

All items that aren't collab related or ults are available after season in guide trees so we can save up for them for sure at least

[misty bone]

to be honest, the display items are not useful items in my opinion. It is a luxury item if you have too much hearts, I still feel 20 hearts or 17 or 19 hearts are too much. It should be close to 10 or so. I mean even the tent is more useful than this. It used to cost candles for display props. Dunno what is with the dev's mindset when they set that price.

TGC: sure you can buy what you need only. the thing is there everytime

also TGC: I shall inflate this item since I feel like it, who ask u to buy it later

[oak kite]

The fact that they cost so much and do absolutely NOTHING except sit there just adds salt to the wounds. If our sky kids could cuddle them or have some kind of animation with them, then yeah, okay, but as it stands... No. This is a hard pass.

[ashen tusk]

I don't mind paying hearts for them if I'm honest - idk if it's just cause I connect with owning plushies irl but each item is supposed to be the beloved treasure of each spirit and they're meaningful props more than just aesthetic seasonal items, but for the plushies especially I feel like spending hearts on them feels really emotionally connected with the whole "hearts are a meaningful currency". I know others may not feel the same way though. Personally I don't have the same emotional connection with the other spirit's belongings that I have with the plushies so I probably wouldn't have been happy to spend hearts on the tea set, etc.

[iron elbow]

maskless is literally 30, yall can handle a permanent prop that's less than 20 hearts just fine

[mellow tangle]

🤔 Although it's true, I don't think that's a fair comparison

Masks are all cosmetics (Elder masks aside) and don't really do anything.
The Plushies being props are taking the place of other, more useful things. Like the Torch, a chat table, etc.

[misty bone]

The cuddle function was sorta discussed that it MIGHT be in the build but knowing tgc as well. They don't spend time on stuff already released. so I dunno how realistic is that sentence. That being, I still feel it is overly priced even if it had that function. Probably different priority.

[ashen tusk]

this is an interesting take too and if I may I'd like to extend it further, cause honestly I get more joy out of the 20 heart plushies than I would ever out of the 150 heart tier 2 capes - both are optional items that do nothing in regards to limiting completion of the game in any way, they're both pretty cosmetic, but in terms of which items I feel more connected to it's the plushies so it feels less of a con spending 20 hearts on each than it would to get the tier 2 black and white capes.

This is simply an alternate example and personal opinion though.

[spark lance]

using the wings of aurora while already in the night coliseum seems to break the function and register it as though you've never been to valley yet permanently

[spark lance]

I believe there was limitations in the current technology that doesn't allow them to let us hug/cuddle the plushies? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, my memory is terrible lmao

[misty bone]

but capes are all for display, not all props are just for display though... so i dunno if this is a fair comparison or so

[ashen tusk]

It has nothing to do with tgc not spending time on already released items - aurora cape is already released and due to feedback they have since worked on changing the teleport function to be from anywhere in sky instead of being limited to the coliseum.

The reason certain things don't happen the way we want or when we want is a) time constraints, b) technological capacities, and c) they've probably had to prioritise other things but it's on the list somewhere

[iron elbow]

same could be said for literally every prop that doesn't have any practical function, and I don't think anyone has to make a hard choice between a torch and a feast pillow eveytime they go to wasteland
each prop has it's appropriate place and time

[misty bone]

erm aurora cape is a paid item, i don't think that is a fair comparison as well. besides that aurora paid item was hardly tested in beta since they did not want to activate it. Therefore , the bug of it are unknown since they hardly tested it. I dunno how fair is this comparison between paid and unpaid items.

[ashen tusk]

I'd be happiest though if they price the crab and manta the same though, I don't think they should be valued differently because it would be unfair for crab lovers to have to pay more. Makes zero difference to me personally cause I'll be bagging both, but I still think I'll drop by feedback about it

[steep shell]

I'm not even talking about connection or usefulness or anything like that. I'm talking about, getting hearts it's hard. There are only so many guides and there aren't that many people willing to trade when we're constantly being hit by event after event. And the prices seem to be going up up up. It's not a reasonable price when there always seems to be other stuff going on. I think it's fair to be worried about this trend

[spark lance]

tbh the lack of people noticing this makes me kinda worried it'll make it into the live game

[late sonnet]

tbh there hasn't been a new heart cost item in a long time so I'm okay with this

[spark lance]

I'm honestly thankful that the plushies cost less than both the bird feeder and the DoL arch lmao

[vital crystal]

Gonna skip the arch.

[misty bone]

there are some difference between the live and beta even for the aurora cape... so i am not sure what will happen. Let me test it as well for beta. Ty for the update

[ashen tusk]

I'd agree with this to a certain extent, but since the items are permanent I don't think it's as big of an issue considering I'm already holding off on most permanent items to finish limited item collection anyways. The economic issue needs addressed for sure, but with permanent items like these I don't think it's impossible to get them ever, it's just about taking more time to get them and we're all pretty used to that for the most part

[lilac solstice]

I actually like the plushies more than the bloom stuff As a plushie enthusiast, so I'll probably get those instead of the new bloom items ngl.

[mellow tangle]

Yes, but the Feast pillow costs 10 candles. Hardly comparable to nearly 20 hearts.
I can understand things you can wear being 20 hearts. It's a visual thing, part of your personal way to express yourself. While props, other than the aesthetic part, also have the practical side.

But I digress, the point I made was simply that comparing the Plushies to Masks was an unfair comparison. Comparing something that can have functions to something simply and merely cosmetic for that price.

I won't even get into the Solo Player discussion. I think everyone's aware of them and the Heart situation 🤷

[ashen tusk]

For example, event items that only stick around for a couple of weeks or TS that are only here for a few days - their prices need sorted first and foremost or I'm gonna be on the edge of a breakdown every other week for the rest of time

[misty bone]

The thing is the base game item do not inflate prices or hearts once released. The side item games like the assembly props does. And it actually did increased once. So if tgc were to set them not to inflate. I would have no issue of it.

[ashen tusk]

When did assembly items from the guide tree inflate? Please share this info cause I don't recall that happening - the only items I know that increase are the ts stuff

[misty bone]

It was increased the 1st or 2nd month after the items were released. I can dig for the information you want later.

[ashen tusk]

It sounds likely they reconsidered the value of the items then, it hasn't happened to other guide items since that point so I doubt it'll happen with the plushies this time round either - tgc are much more confident and consistent with their pricing for the most part especially since lately they've priced high in the first place

[misty bone]

I just hope so. Feedback is for tgc to consider. If tgc willing to consider that is.

[spark lance]

i think 10 or 15 hearts is more reasonable or maybe even 30 candles

[light wave]

A decade later (if all is well and the game is still around). With the way pricing is done, each event can reach upto 700-800+ candles. RIP future moths 😂

[ashen tusk]

I do feel sad for moths the most, it's difficult even now to keep up sometimes and I've been around since prince so moths must be suffering a lot - maybe that's why beta is forcing us to all be moths we have to suffer as they do

[misty bone]

Sorry for the ping. I recalled someone mentioned that the aurora cape is disabled in beta as there were no scheduled concerts like in live. You want to see night colosseum or concert. You need to do it in live. Not happening in beta

[spark lance]

Aurora cape was enabled in beta some builds ago

[spark lance]

No but like, the aurora cape works in beta now, but a bug is causing it to not work properly again cause it keeps registering that I haven't been to valley yet even though I have

[misty bone]

Yes, the aurora cape was active when aurora season was still in beta. Not after season now

If the cape just tells you that you can't go a location that you have not visited despite having a cape. Probably means night colosseum does not exist in beta. you can bug report if you are worried but i don't think it was an issue since aurora cape does not work in beta.

[viral crater]

Hey. I am not able to send hearts via friendship constellation. Anyone else facing this issue??

[iron elbow]

no, the cape now works as teleport to the night coli

[tired zinc]

is the last quest still unfinished? i don’t see any cutscene

[spark lance]

Night coliseum exists in beta, I literally just visited it not that long ago

[misty bone]

In beta , now? coz mine doesnt work at the moment.

[lament seal]

The cape worked fine for me a few days ago when I used it, haven't tried it since though.

[viral crater]

Please help here

[lilac solstice]

It's bugged right now

[ashen tusk]

I left a caterpillar right there 🐛

[viral crater]

Thank you 😊

[iron elbow]

ok which one you broke the cape and why is skybot so quiet all of a sudden

[lilac solstice]

Sorry, i may have snuck some peas for skybot

[spark lance]

Bruh I was the first one to bring up the fact that the cape broke i think oh lord please don't tell me that I broke the wings for everyone

[sullen relic]

Bit of a specific question, but has anyone been to Eden on 211543? Seems like you can't skip the cutscene immediately after arriving at Orbit (the one where the glowing kids return to the skies). Not entirely sure if it's a once-off occurrence or if it happens on every trip

[spark lance]

Cutscenes seem to be completely bugged right now

[sullen relic]

I could still skip the credits, but from what you're saying, sounds like the same thing is happening elsewhere in the game

[frosty trout]

Hello chat popping in—can folks still access shared spaces shrines like normal?

Especially the one in Prairie butterfly fields?

[spark lance]

I'll check right now

[sullen relic]

I can see an "Edit" button at the Prairie social one, but no-one else's spaces to view/join. Was there a separate one down in Butterfly Fields itself (where the big rock is)?

[inner root]

if im paying actual money for the pass to get the ultimate award i would want it to have an "unfair" advantage. Like what is the point of the investment then? It reminds me if the underwater season, when the ultimate reward oxygen mask added no extra benefit from the "free" mask, only like +15seconds of oxygen but nothing else. Like they're making paying players feel like they've wasted their money. Why not give the ultimate reward oxygen mask unlimited oxygen? Why not make that these mantas recharge you fully in 5 seconds? Give us something worth our money TGC; it's not much of a fair trade you're offering

[sudden pine]

I can access it, make one, save it but I only see mine there (in prairie)

[spark lance]

^ same here, not sure where the butterfly fields shared space shrine is, unless you're talking about the memory candle one? (I did see bubba's shared space at prairie social tho)

[frosty trout]

Sorry, I should have specified the social hub, not just the big area name. Yes, there's just the one in the social space

Noted and noted

and you were seeing other people's shared spaces at the shrines in earlier builds, right?

[ashen tusk]

Did you see I threw all the large items I could at it

[spark lance]

Then yes, I can still use the shared space shrine as normal -- both visiting others and creating my own. I do believe I was able to see other people's shared spaces in previous builds, if I'm remembering correctly!

[inner root]

Manta Light recharging speed decreased to be fair? Then change the bonfire and torch.etc's recharging speed too please. A paid item but has no privilege while so many free(candle/heart-trade) items have? It's not even logical. And plushie price, is it some kind of virtual inflation? We know as a game company you need players' gaming time and money but this??? You've already removed two afk candle spots and the old afk system and daily candle limit I mean really??

[spark lance]

Yes the first thing I was greeted with when opening your shared space was the big ol goal from the skyball prop LMAO

[ashen tusk]

Oh whilst I was at the shared space in prairie there were no shared spaces by others around the big diamond, then I made my own and it was the only one visible for me

I genuinely wanted to see the capacity for large items but also it now feels like I made a playground and I wanna make more like that

[ashen tusk]

Reminder to leave your feedback in the channel too #beta-feedback so the devs can see

[hollow parcel]

Free to play players can recharge from ult manta lantern too. If i place my lantern in Eden to help people recharge both f2p and p2p ppl will benefit from it. Nerfing the speed of recharge kills it for both categories of players.

[misty bone]

#beta-discussion message > bubba, my mistake. think the price change for assembly was during the season itself. lol 3rd quest so it seemed.

#questions-and-help message > amended quest guide due to the increase in price.

[sudden pine]

Is it a normal thing for shared spaces if you remove one of your own with a slashed out candle and start making a new one that you start with the space you had previously built?

[ashen tusk]

It always has, but I don't know if it's still intended to, I honestly appreciate it saves them after they expire though cause sometimes I like to just renew them without needing to recreate them

[sudden pine]

Like I feel if I chose to “remove this” rather than edit my existing one I’d expect to start from a blank slate

[ashen tusk]

Thanks so much for collecting the info!

Ah by the looks of it if it changed during the season then I imagine it was perhaps a one off, especially since it hasn't ever happened with other seasons and I hope it doesn't happen in future

[sudden pine]

(Also there’s no other lanterns at treasure reef either)

[spark lance]

Yay doot notes!!! \o/

[left quest]

I got yoinked making my joke. 😭

Doot notes doot notes

[white latch]

FINALLY

[late sonnet]

doot notes!!

[thorn temple]

honestly

memory candles > new memory lanterns > stone memory lanterns

in terms of like, cluttering and just general appearance
also rip the camera man lanterns 💔 they will be missed

[indigo gale]

ahh so it was a bug when i couldn't light people, i thought i was clicking too much and broke something

[ashen tusk]

I love doot notes, thanks Sagomay!

[spark lance]

Personally I find the memory crystals less messy than the memory candles, but maybe that's just me.. 100% glad that the stone lanterns are gone though, those were awful to see everywhere-

[gilded parrot]

I ate it

[left quest]

I’ll test beta later, I’m drawing my skid.

[late sonnet]

can I see

[sullen relic]

The memory crystals/lanterns feel more at home in Vault, but they look a bit jarring in the environments of earlier areas (particularly the natural looking areas of Daylight Prairie and Isle). I preferred the candle aesthetic since they're a constant in all levels, whereas the lanterns seem too technologically advanced relative to the first maps (the large memory shrines using the new crystal shape also look extremely out of place at the Treehouse and Daylight Prairie social area)

[left quest]

When I finish the sketch ofc!

[craggy elbow]

i saw someone complaining that the memory candle before was confusing because they apparently couldn't tell the difference between a red candle/orange (for wax) and a memory candle

[steady pond]

tbf we had white candles that gave wax before and at lesser chevrons the wax balls become small enough to maybe blend in

[sudden pine]

It’s literally a crime that I can only place one manta plushie

[craggy elbow]

some white candles still do, like in vault

[frosty trout]

Until AI takes over the world, doot notes will be written by a human, such as me, a being trapped in linear time and thus unable to do all things at once

[ashen tusk]

I like the crystals and I shall become attached to them

[rugged minnow]

does someone have a video of the ring around the rosie lanterns because that sounds so cute

[frosty trout]

Cute till you try to tap on the icon to close them

[ashen tusk]

You work very hard Sagomay, we appreciate you and update notes!

[spark lance]

I like the crystals enough that I wanna eat them -- they look like glowing rock candy pieces

[white latch]

Brooo I was happy about the fixed issue which I’ve been waiting so long, y’all finally fixed it tysm 😭

[frosty trout]

I did want to give a big thank you to everyone posting about the bugs that ended up being the known issues I mentioned in the post!

[ashen tusk]

you cannot eat memory crystals oh no

[left quest]

So I wasn’t supposed to eat those?

[frosty trout]

Thanks to the discussion and the clarification you all passed along, we think we have an idea of what's going on, which is an important first step in figuring out how to fix it

[spark lance]

I've eaten mud and grass before I WILL eat those crystals

[frosty trout]

Ohhhhhhh well that's fair.
On a related note, my coworkers who find bug fixes are also humans, beings trapped in linear time.....

(glad we were able to get a fix in, thank you for your patience!)

[ashen tusk]

Sagomay tryna be heart felt and y'all crunching your teeth on crystals and rocks

[spark lance]

Rocks taste good can you really blame me

[silver spear]

doot time

[sand garnet]

Rock candy doot...

[white latch]

Oops I wrong chat, was talking to 2 channels at once

[late sonnet]

tbh if you ground them down, I reckon they'd be pretty good as salt or sugar
season your food

[spark lance]

Or you could eat the powder like fun dip!

[silver spear]

omg,,,i just realized they changed the model of the memory candles to diamonds, this is way prettier than the lanterns (also idk if my concept had any effect on the change but its nice to see it)

[ashen tusk]

Personally I'd make them into and necklace or lil crystal crown if I got the opportunity, but if y'all are gonna chomp them then I'm gonna have to settle for bagging them all up and going on the run with them instead

[spark lance]

Better start running then

[glossy hornet]

what are the new iaps in days of love?

[tidal aurora]

is the "no button to skip cutscenes" meant as like... ALL cutscenes? (please say yes)

[sudden pine]

Yes

[tidal aurora]

OH MY GOD??

[spark lance]

Classy Cravat (neck bow) and serendipitous scepter (fireworks staff, but it shoots hearts instead). Though that's a question that should be asked in live channels as it has been officially announced in #news !

[sudden pine]

But there might be a rogue skip button out there!

[tidal aurora]

sobbing crying rolling on the floor

[spark lance]

Someone said they could skip the credits in orbit, but the rest seem to be bugged

#beta-discussion message

[tidal aurora]

WAAAAAAAA NO PLEASE ADD A SKIP CUTSCENE FOR EVERY CUTSCENE

[ashen tusk]

there is absolutely no way I'll be doing an eden run to check if that's the case so I'll take their word for it

[kindred prawn]

I dream of the day they add a cutscene for the valley temple after you do the races

[spark lance]

I'd sacrifice my throwaway for a quick Eden run but I can't even take it through the gate, it's got 4 wedges 💀

[limpid crown]

Any updates with the Bloom Prices... 🥲

[ashen tusk]

You can drag it through the portal with a kid that has at least 20 wings

[spark lance]

My alt got no one friended + I don't have another device I can use to have my main drag it through >:")

[white latch]

Wait I still don’t understand the last quest :”))

[spark lance]

you have to place the items near the table with the bell that looks like from forest

[heady warren]

LOLLL pls 💀 i just saw the price decrease for the bloom capes.... noooooooooo anglkdfgnd Not Good Enough, Y'all!!! 120 to 110... really just shaved off as little as possible and said 'that ok?' like absolutely not. salami cape is like 60-70 at best plz 💀 💀 and 80 for a decorative prop... NAH...

comparing prices of new items to the past ones... sky saw real life inflation and was like Is For us Too? <:3c
honestly purple bloom cape is too pricey at 105 candles tbh.
I REALLY THINK: past years events should have their prices lowered a LOT so that new players can have a chance to get them easier and not have to grind. its ridiculous.

walkin up to a newbie and breaking the bad news like 'uh yeah you need 365 candles and 20 hearts (so, 60 extra candles) to get everything from the event. if you grind every day to maximum that's 21 days. in that time one or two traveling spirits will pass through too, oops!
LIKE? go easy on them!!

'plz spend 42-44 hours playing this game doing the same thing over and over if you want these items' 😭 like cmon. rebalance the chevrons already, with all the backlog of items. jeez. poor newbies... cant blame them for leaving

ok made it feedback 👍 sorry just AUGH! my poor newbie buddies!

[indigo gale]

Is there a clear guide on placing the items for spirits? I've attempted about 10 times and can never seem to set them in the right places for tea brewer and injured soldier

[white latch]

Cant tell if the last quest bugged or I’m just being stupid

Ok so I think I have to make sure all 4 spirits shook their head not 3 or one

[spark lance]

i think you have to see them do the grateful shell collector emote

[restive pulsar]

I‘m not sure how to proceed with the Remembrance final quest.
Does this mean I have to first talk to all the spirits and ask them to tell me where to place the items, then I have to place the items where they want them to be in order to complete it?
I first asked the veteran spirit to confirm the location of the items and I followed suit and placed the wind chimes. After that, I cannot determine the placement of the item when I approach other spirits.
Should I file a bug report?

[white latch]

Dammit still not work, I give up 😭

[spark lance]

i don't even know how i got it finished 😭

[white latch]

PLEASE JUS

it took me 30 minutes to decorate with everything they wanted with love and care and they just gonna ditch it, I’m offended

[mighty sluice]

The memory candles are..... Much more noticable now, not sure I like that

[white latch]

Ok sooo idk what I just did but everyone start walking through walls

[spark lance]

can you send a screenshot?

NO I pressed it too fast but I just got a skip button on the first floor of vault

Also managed to get skip button after meditating on the elevator + arriving at floor 2

I got the 3 skip buttons going into wasteland tornado/landing afterwards as well, and the text seems to be back in the bottom left corner

All my skip buttons seem to be back went into isle and my skip button was there, and I am able to teleport home unlike earlier

[restive needle]

i know that beta is only for iphone but i am so very sad still that we can’t shoot fireworks with the fireworks staff on switch anymore. the agony

[spark lance]

Beta is for more than just iphone, there's android testers too but yeah, it is quite sad that the fireworks staff is a bit weird to use now. I'm not used to clicking a after clicking zr to launch a firework

[ashen tusk]

the b in beta stands for bamboozled

[spark lance]

I restarted my game to make sure it wasn't a one-session thing, and my skip buttons still seem to be there

[mint zinc]

This season's spirit seems to be very picky and detailed

[earnest pawn]

Figures out the last season quest and also love the huge amount of props I can place in shared spaces (such as prairie).

[crisp thorn]

Is it just me or is Discord the one with the (bug) problem? I haven’t been getting pings for updates until 8 hours later. .*for some time now. Myself and close testers now ck TestFlight randomly and dm others if we see it’s available.

[twin isle]

Did u also just get the ping LOL

[spark lance]

I just got it too💀

[tawny reef]

It just pinged me of an old notification

[crisp thorn]

No just checked TestFlight.

[twin isle]

I just got the ping in discord and went "ANOTHER ONE we keep getting updates fr" and checked the notif and the message was 3 hrs old in disc but ping happened rn

[spark lance]

Gotta love discord giving us very delayed pings!!!

(Also bubba if you see this, don't mind the fact I sent you a heart was just testing to see if sending hearts still worked for me, and u were the first victim on my list enjoy the free heart )

[crisp thorn]

I’m asking because we may need to report a bud to discord

[coral cosmos]

yeah discord has been sending delayed pings for a while. sometimes i update the app, go to bed, and the notification comes in literally after i wake up the next day. don't know what's up with that

[crisp thorn]

*bug

[coral cosmos]

you can send in general discord-related bugs here: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360006586013

[crisp thorn]

Tysm 🤗

[steady widget]

Ping?

[sullen relic]

From memory, delayed pings tend to happen on larger servers due to Discord needing to stagger them when there're too many users that need to be pinged (makes sense if you think about the server load that would happen if everyone pinged suddenly became active at once). Not sure if that's really a bug or something that can be fixed, though pings being several hours late definitely seems a bit inconvenient

[steady widget]

I got pinged 20 minutes ago, I came here a bit late

[charred lodge]

what is that supposed to mean anyway? i didn't notice anything different after the memory stops playing...

[inner root]

TGC is being stingy for what :(( the recharging effect on the ult was fine before and since it's an ult obviously it would differ from other recharging props. If TGC wanted recharge items to be "fair," all those items would recharge at the same pace. They obviously do not, and to suggest TGC is concerned about "fairness" gives them far more credit than they've earned. That borders on insult to the players.

[light wave]

i’m loving the fact that whenever people are raising concerns or complaints about the recharge effect of the Ulti. Most people tag the comment with tag instead of showing passive aggressiveness of “Just be happy and accept what is given to you” Attitude. I don’t stay in Discord Sky official for too long, I go in and out of this server. But i’m seeing some positive changes within sky official discord over the years, unlike back in the days. I just think the community within the discord deserves that appreciation ♥️💕💙💗

[limpid crown]

I believe I'm the only one who sees the recharge speed of the ult is okay

[steady widget]

you're going to get jumped on

[ashen tusk]

It's okay to have different opinions, that's what feedback is for, tgc want to hear what we all have to say

[ashen tusk]

it means some memory crystals have been going in circles when we try to walk near them to shut them off

[spark lance]

Just ran from realm to realm attempting to leave as many memory crystals as I could in the social areas while chibi + tiny for the funny

[agile hazel]

That's 5 counts of littering. Gonna slap you with a 100 candle fine per count

[fiery isle]

is it just me or we can’t view the final quest after we finish?

[cursive tinsel]

Chat props kidnapping from across the maps is just server lag right?

[kindred fossil]

Could be unfinished or a bug

[finite lava]

Now is it possible to have the manta projector on and play an instrument at the same time?

[rocky peak]

Why is there a funny diamond invasion happening rn

[mild scarab]

Hi I want to ask if DND mood has any changes or if they add it to setting menu ?wish it was a permanent stuff

[kindred fossil]

Memory candles appearance changed

[livid mural]

The new memory candles appearance

I love it ngl 😳😳😳
(Still gonna hide them if I find annoying ones around grannys and geyser tho lolol)

[agile hazel]

ngl I completely forgot DND mode was a thing

[tall yacht]

Sorry for the ping, but I couldnt update Beta on my Samsung phone too. I tried to uninstall and reinstall again, but still I couldnt install Beta.
I wonder if anyone with Samsung phone also experience the same

[agile hazel]

You need more storage

[boreal thistle]

This happened to me but with live, it's probably storage. Before, I needed only a few GB freed up but now even with 4.5gb free it won't let me... 😭

[kindred fossil]

It was increased to 6 GB last I heard

[boreal thistle]

Now both live and beta are on my tablet so no more triple candle runs with my sibling 🗿 IT WAS INCREASED TO WHAT

[tall yacht]

I still have around 6 GB available for storage, but it still doesnt let me install 1.7 GB of Beta

[vagrant fable]

I see beta has turned into Steven Universe and the diamonds are invading /j

[dense grail]

Hm I wish there was a possible way to hide the disable button on the manta projector.

Like instead of being visible on the actual prop itself maybe it can be on the emotes menu to disable?
Since the big X mark ruins the immersion for me

[shadow steppe]

Hi beta sky kids : D i have a little problem-

I have sky beta on my phone since 1year ++
I'm still active and all
But since 2 updates ago, the application won't update.. there is the loading (01mo/100mo) and when it finishes i have an error message saying that the app didn't install-

No matter how many times i try to redo the update, clear cache, re-start my phone.. NOTHING works..

So my question is.. can i delete the app and reinstall it or will it automatically kick me out of the beta test?

[spark lance]

As long as you don't click "stop testing" you should be able to uninstall and reinstall safely

[shadow steppe]

Oh great I'm saved😭 thank you!

[kindred fossil]

@warped geode I had already left feedback in favor of the flower fields staying

[gilded basin]

oof, 6gb? i think i might have to quit beta until i get something with more storage

[somber beacon]

happened all the time with me, I solved it cleaning my phone's memory to much more then what's necessary for the app, exemple: if the app is 1,5GB, I let at least 3 or 4 GB free. also I cleaned the cache of Play Store and similar apps and I restarted the cell phone. good luck!

[restive pulsar]

I posted the video.
#beta-screenshots-videos message

[kindred fossil]

It looks you had to press in the corner, have you tried? The quest is still confusing regardless, it may also be suited to leave feedback regarding the difficulty

[steady flume]

definitely agree
i don't think it's possible to make a design for the shared spaces and memories that's less noticeable. it will always look cluttered. so i really hope we get the option to hide them

[night imp]

Last quest with the spirits. Just checking….did your spirits have you placing their favorite items all over by the shared space diamonds? The wounded warrior wanted me to place the plant right in the lantern circle?!? Seems feedback is needed cuz there is plenty of area in the repository to fulfill this quest away from the lanterns.

[restive pulsar]

I tried, but was asked to recreate the shared space. I am completely out of ideas.
According to friends who completed the quest before the update, they were able to complete it by placing items one by one as in the following example.
(1) Talk to the Veteran Spirit and place a wind chime.
(2) Talk to the Child Spirit and place a stuffed manta.

[kindred fossil]

Ah I completed the quest in the previous build and that's how it went for me too, I must be mistaken then

[sudden pine]

aw the sparkles are gone

and forest is really crashy

[steady flume]

i just completed the quest pretty much the same way that you described just now so this should still work what i noticed is that the spirits react to the placement while i was still holding the prop (and it wasn't placed yet) so i just placed it again in the spot they like. for the child i placed both plushies.

[glacial barn]

I just had an idea, prompted by the do not disturb spell... Well, a couple ideas really that are otherwise unrelated.

One: Dungeons and Dragons collab (one can dream)... "DND" always makes me think "Dungeons and Dragons", so the more I read it in the beta channels the more my subconscious gets hyped over the idea

Two (the more serious one): AFK camouflage - a trigger to enable the afk snoozing effect without actually being AFK, to discourage friends from attempting to hang out with you when you just want some alone time in-game. I mean, until we get an offline/invisible mode, we have to look at all the possible alternatives

But anyways, just early morning thoughts

[maiden pond]

Just use level 2 or 4, easy 💤 icon.

[sage haven]

I couldn't figure out where to place the props. But I found that if you approach each spirit they walk over and point to the spot they want their item placed.

[glacial barn]

Well yes, but no - those can be easy to identify as the emotes. I was thinking more for the standing while snoozing effect, a very obvious indication of afk

[daring sun]

Sitting as tho I have exited my app but it's still there has also worked for me, but it's not the same I agree

Tho if we had it as an option to toggle on, maybe it would be less camouflage people suspect more

[spark lance]

I find that sitting still and being unresponsive even without snoozing will get people to assume you’re afk through app minimizing

I haven't been testing shared space in beta for awhile until now .. was the option to share our shared space no longer exist? The eye button so our creation can be seen by players around us 🤔 There's only exit and return to play with others. And it doesn't seem to show my shared space to people in the area

[austere geyser]

People around you can see your shared space by tapping the teleport icon that will appear above your skykid after you'll enter any shared space ( and you can do the same with other players )

Players can no longer see shared spaces unless they want to, and i think it's better like this, otherwise with the newly implemented shared space spells the area would be way too crowded with items and very unpleasant to look at

[ashen sundial]

What do you guys think about the new shared memories?

[left jetty]

Can someone fill me in on the remembrance ultimate gift charging tea? I saw people talking about how it had the same recharge speed as the bonfire, but looks like that changed. I mainly just want to understand why the recharge speed was a potential issue for people if possible!

[coral cosmos]

it's definitely better than the lanterns from the previous build. i kind of like them more than the candles too, they're small and less in the way.

i sent in feedback earlier about adjusting memory timing too, i think since they're redesigning them it would be nice to have longer recordings.

i still think it'll be a good idea to add a toggle for players to decide whether or not they want to see the shared memories/spaces. would be nice to make all the clutter disappear.

[ashen sundial]

I really like them too, they're barely visible if you just walk by

[nocturne onyx]

the faster recharging speed of the manta ult was adjusted because of an “unfair disadvantage” as mentioned in the #beta-announcements notes.. but now when compared to other recharging items .. it’s much slower. Even when it’s a paid item that requires you to complete a full season, it recharges slower than the torch prop from assembly 😭..

Basically, we’re just trying to send enough feedback so as to increase the manta ult’s recharging power back—it doesn’t even have to be as fast as it was before.. But if they really cared about making things fair then I really do think it should have about the same power as the bonfire.. considering they’re both seasonal ults and all..

[ashen sundial]

Not only that, but in my opinion it should also have a similar recharging speed as the cosmic mantas in vault

[neat wagon]

man, I wish sky would have a cool dark night area in valley with an aurora In the sky and forest trees surrounding it, my life would be complete

Why are people arguing about the ultimate recharging ability, like bro it recharges..plus it's supposed to be used for aesthetic purposes

[ashen sundial]

Trees and valley dont mix together lol

[spark lance]

Because people feel that it should recharge faster and they're allowed to have their own opinion?..

[indigo gale]

They could always try massive pine trees, they grow a lot in colder climates so it would suit an area for Valley.

I like the idea of that.

[low stream]

Another final quest prop-placement tip that worked for me: Don't click and drag the prop from the menu. Just tap the icon and let it auto-place. I tried this with the three plants and it worked much better than dealing with the crazy camera movements. It may not be aesthetic home decor, but hopefully makes it easier to Complete the quest.

Also the only placement spot I could get the Tea-brewer to be satisfied was to their left (after they move), in the center of where the group first gathered. Placing it where they gesture, between their and the child's spot, will leave them miffed.

[left jetty]

Thank you so much for taking the time to fill me in! 🥲
Fully agree with all of your points. Honestly it makes absolutely no sense to me why it would be considered an unfair disadvantage. If anything, I feel like it’s significantly more “unfair” for there to be only 1 item that charges that fast, especially one that will never return.
I’m wondering who considered it unfair- was it players, or did TGC decide that on their own..?
To add onto your point, I feel like if they truly cared about fairness they’d make all props have the same recharge speed I don’t remember this ever being this big of a problem before, so I don’t get why it is now!

[hybrid wedge]

I think part of it is, TGC has kept to a philosophy that things purchased with money shouldn’t give an excessive gameplay advantage vs. f2p people. With the Belonging campfire, when it came out there were a lot of players who criticized that it was really powerful. I don’t remember the exact timeline because it was a while ago at this point, but I want to say that that’s one reason why those campfire spells were ultimately (🥁) added to the spell rotation.

[ashen sundial]

Ohhh thats true, that might be why

[left jetty]

I don’t see anyone arguing about it at the moment

I agree it’s not a big deal at all- it’s cool that it recharges regardless of the speed. Even while I feel this way, there are lots of nuances in this situation though, so it makes sense why it’s such a huge discussion. 🙂

[left jetty]

That’s understandable!
However, since TGC didn’t change how powerful the bonfire is, why change this one? There are multiple aspects behind this that just don’t correlate with actual “fairness”. I’m sure there are tons of players that weren’t around during assembly who would now have the opportunity to obtain that same power, which to me does feel more fair. Plus, bonfire spells are still obtainable if recharge speed is a concern.
I’m not actually trying to debate you by the way- you provided a great perspective, which I appreciate!

Also, and this may be a stupid question, but I haven’t gone without a season pass for a while-
Can you only get ultimate gifts if you have the season pass..?

[languid sandal]

Yes you need a season pass to be able to get ultimate gifts.

I tried making a shared space for the first time using the spell, I got to naming it but accidentally misclicked something and lost all my progress! I was so proud of my cozy little cosmic manta shrine!

[hybrid wedge]

Nah I don’t see it as trying to argue something. I appreciate the chance to share different angles of it, since sometimes the conversation can tilt heavily to only one perspective to the loss of others :)

TGC couldn’t really reduce the recharge speed of the bonfire once it was live (even if they wanted to). People would feel like they were taking away something they paid money for. That would be Really Not Great. It’s been very very rare that they’ve changed paid cosmetics after release, but I’ve noticed that the few times they do, it’s intended to add something—like (with this manta projecting thing) floating on the mantas and some recharge boost, or to make the Enchantment UG turban glow a bit.

[languid sandal]

But it feels like they're taking away something we've paid money for now by reducing the recharge speed. It was fantastic before and now it feels sorta slow in comparison. Guess now we just hope and wait but I doubt it will be increased again.

(In other news: I recreated my cosmic manta shrine and it's even better than before! )

[nocturne onyx]

I guess it just sucks for the ppl that bought out the entire season on the first day for the ult (there’s always THOSE people, you know).. when theyre making such a dramatic change to an item thats already live.. its a bit problematic lol

[languid sandal]

Plus if we can't have recharging items that are faster or as fast as the campfire that means that we pretty much have a permanent limit and no item will be able to exceed that recharging speed in the future.

[kindred fossil]

I do want the speed of the recharge to change, but technically it has never released to live yet, TGC never specified the features of the lantern, only that it will have the ability to recharge at a later build, we could never know the recharge speed based on that announcement alone and make a purchase in confidence. I guessed that it would be slower than bonfire and that recharge speed from first few builds of 20.5 overpowering and too good to be true

I doubt it will be increased again though 😔

[shadow stratus]

I dont feel like its problematic when the item is getting a straight upgrade tbh

[iron elbow]

why is ult being talked about like it's a very slow bonfire, or a braizer, or anything other recharge prop shaped?

it's a manta lantern. it makes it night, does the sparkles, and summons cosmic mantas. that's already an ult people were stocked to pay for, it's designed to be admired and vibed with.

so why is it not being a top notch recharger such a big deal? it already does it's main functions, and does them well. the recharge is just an added bonus, to not confuse people with mantas who don't give any light.

so maybe let the ult be the pretty lantern it was supposed to be, and not a strategical super recharge tool?

[kindred fossil]

Jaws, I am coping

[shadow stratus]

That too, and once again, the concept of balance goes further than "recharge fast" , the area of the recharge is w i d e comparing to the torch and bonfire that have the fastest recharges, and if you be 1 cm away, they dont charge as fast as they can as well.

[maiden pond]

I just want a better recharge prop. The Assembly brazier takes too long to charge 11 wings.

[shadow stratus]

A nice solution to end this discussion should just buff the assembly brazier or make a new item to equates to the torch and bonfire.
Tbh that would make it the strongest item in the game because both torch and bonfire are easily taken down by eden rocks

[sage haven]

Because the last ult to offer a recharge was the campfire and the recharge is twice as fast.

[sage haven]

Range on this ult is good though.

[visual temple]

Because most people don’t have a use for “just vibing”. It’s cute at first but ends up forgotten in the closet.

In other concerns, is anyone else having issues updating the last build? 👀

[kindred fossil]

Can't really speak on the wider community, especially when live reception differs from beta drastically

[languid sandal]

And to add to this the campfire's primary function is to chat not recharge. So the manta projector's primary function being aesthetics isn't really a valid reason for it to not have an equal recharge speed.

[trim spade]

Why does it have to have an equal recharge speed?

[iron elbow]

excuse me, it's literally an open flame, what are other immediate thoughts that should pop into sky player's head-
I mean I get it, it's a chat prop, but no one's seeing it as a fancy table

[kindred fossil]

To cope

[hybrid wedge]

Well, but the live version of the prop doesn’t recharge at all. The first time the ultimate had any recharging was when beta testing for 20.5 began. The speed was changed while we were testing it, but none of us paid for anything here, and TGC never promised that the first change in the beta test was going to go into live as-is.

[trim spade]

Cope with the lack of bonfire?

[kindred fossil]

Strategically lantern might be a bit clumsier as a fast recharge prop

Light lantern > activate mantas > try to jump on mantas, which depending on skill way take a while

Compared to

Light recharge prop > stand close

[sage haven]

So range is better than the campfire and better than most props. It doesn't hit other players unless they interact with it so this seems balanced. The recharge speed is "decent" especially taking into account the range, but the nerf doesn't make sense when comparing it to the campfire and considering you have to interact with the prop. It can't be used to help burn stuff like other props. It's only practical use is as a personal recharge tool.

[rotund wing]

Why is this such a big deal now tho, I’m confused

[kindred fossil]

IDK we just bored 💯

[sage haven]

What do you mean? Beta players love to debate features. It challenges the devs in a good way and improves the game.

[hybrid wedge]

We obvious need 0.21.0 testing to begin ASAP

[rotund wing]

Me, a beta player, never really debating:

[kindred fossil]

Good for you

[lilac solstice]

I sure enjoy it, and like taking in all sides of a topic. Hearing everyone's points

[kindred fossil]

Oh yeah has anyone tested the lantern in Eden? I was going to but forgot, a bit late for that now

[sage haven]

I'd like to know how it performs in Eden.

[whole plank]

Sorry about the cold ping.
If you watch a memory replay of an earlier quest (or continue to run multiple quest), you will not be able to complete the quest because the position and movement of the spirits will change.
It is unconfirmed whether this is also caused by other players' progress.
To clear it, you should re-enter the area and start immediately.
(I have already reported on this confusion bug)

[kindred fossil]

I could test tomorrow but anyone could give it a try

[sage haven]

I was able to do it this update. You interact with each spirit inside the shared memory and place the same items you used before in the location they indicate. If you place it too close to the spirit they will reject it so you may need to shuffle the item a bit.

Once you find the correct spot a heart lights up on them to indicate they are happy with the location. You only need to place one item per spirit.

[kindred fossil]

They did so in the following video: #beta-screenshots-videos message

[agile hazel]

Didn't even know you could talk to them. I just moved the props around until they were fine with it

[sage haven]

Yes this happened to me. I saved the memory then reentered. I think I had to leave the map.

[whole plank]

video shows that they replay memories of other quests before starting the final quest, and start the final quest with spirits set in the wrong position and movement.
add: the state of the child (sitting) is the state of the cut-scene seen after completing the second half of the fourth quest.

[languid sandal]

In the end with the ultimate gift whatever happens with it happens, I personally believe it should have an equal recharging speed but if it stays the way it is it's not that big of a deal, I never use recharging items anyway

It just kinda sucks that we were given the best recharging prop to date and then have it nerfed to be mediocre that's all.

If it was the speed it is atm from the beginning it wouldn't feel unfair. It's just the fact that they gave us a taste of glory only to pull it away from us completely.

[shadow stratus]

That sure is the problem yes.
But i think people should be mindful that felt overpowered, idk about the others but my first reaction to it was "yep thats getting nerfed lmao"

[narrow current]

Its beta, the taste of anything we get is subject to change, but i understand the feeling

[kindred fossil]

I thought the same, the recharge was instantaneous, stronger than bonfire

[shadow stratus]

The thing i know for sure is that TGC is not to blame for the people who bought the pass just because they saw the recharge speed on a beta version

[stuck latch]

I was secretly glad before the projector's power down
I thought I would have 8 companions (manta)

[meager sleet]

I know it's technically a tulip cape, and I have my criticism of it; still, if they don't change anything I will never look at it as a tulip and instead a rose. Somehow that makes me feel a little better about the design lol

[agile hazel]

Yeah I don't know why people think changing the recharge speed is scamming those who bought the pass. Yea it was stated that the ult would recharge you later on, but never specified the speed. It still recharges you

[iron elbow]

it's not specified to be any flower atm, so you can interpret it however you want

[languid sandal]

I thought it is if you use the spell, does the spell not say Tulip Cape? I thought I remembered seeing that when it first released, though my memory isn't very reliable.

Anyway we all know it's not a tulip or a rose, it's salami!

[sullen relic]

The cosmetic spells usually don't have a name for the items from memory -- they just call themselves "Prop/Mask/Cape spells" etc

[iron elbow]

its just says the generic "cape spell"

[agile hazel]

#beta-screenshots-videos message

[languid sandal]

Must just be a personal Mandela Effect then. I'm so certain I remember seeing "Tulip Cape" somewhere in Sky

[kindred fossil]

It was listed as Tulip Cape in update notes but it was edited

[agile hazel]

It's the salami cape now

[languid sandal]

I'm sleepy beta family! I'll come back if my insomnia is too harsh on me tonight, but if not this will be my last message until whenever! See you all later!

[sullen relic]

It was bought with IGC as well, right? I think that's the only time (outside of inbox messages and instantly-placed prop spells like the table or bonfire) where they actually specify the name of an item (when it was obtained via the bugged pants IAP, that pop-up box should've been showing text for the pants instead)

[gilded basin]

slommy

[quiet obsidian]

what is with sky and making edible capes… first they made the gummy aurora capes and now they’ve served up salami, we’re gonna end up with an entire meal of capes

[sullen relic]

hey, the chibis are never gonna grow up big and strong if you don't feed them properly

[noble hill]

No but imagine a food themed Season where all the cosmetics were based on foods

[kindred prawn]

Season of chibi where every quest you get to pick up a chibi and throw it

[lilac solstice]

I remember all the way back in sanctuary people called the jelly fish hair "eggs" and the grateful cape "ham". It just seems sky players are very hungry

[wet arch]

I wish it was as strong as or almost as strong as bonfire at least

[twin isle]

Yeah definitely the phrases
"People who think recharge speed being changed is a scam bc they alr bought the pass are wrong bc stuff in beta is subject to change"
And "I do wish the manta lantern charged equal to bonfire or close to it"

Can definitely co-exist

[errant wadi]

Wait so seriously the tulip cape or rose cape just dropped by 10 candles?

I mean , man, 120 candles to 110 candles, ok, glad they hear us, but idk if I can call it "lowing the price"

[sand dawn]

yeh, tho the other item dropped by 20 iirc

[errant wadi]

Bruh wth, grateful as I said they heard us, but how is -10 candles lowing a price about a cape that cost 1 1 0. C a n d l e s

And before "lowing the price" it was 120

[brave yoke]

just remember that nothing in beta is final, so it's possible they lower it more before it goes live

I mean, days of bloom doesn't start until march/april, right? and live hasn't seen days of love yet. all that to say, take the prices with a grain of salt.

[sand dawn]

for both items together it’s 30 candles less, that’s about 2 days of cr, it’s not nothing although admittedly the items are still pretty expensive.

[spark lance]

Or they could pull a feast snowman and increase it /hj

[brave yoke]

don't give them ideas

[stuck latch]

after this manta projector ultimate
I give myself a reason not to recharge 🌝🌝🌝

[livid mural]

Still people do wear it often. Sky players just have the tendency to compare stuff to food of all things das all XD

(Which makes me confident that people will still wear the tulip cape eventually one way or another)

[livid mural]

Honestly people need to keep in mind themselves that everything in beta is subject to change until they're released into live

For those who bought the pass because they saw the ult in beta, I can agree TGC wasn't at fault lol, esp considering the recharge wasn't even added until later due to responses

[light wave]

i’m trying to recall the reason why TGC removed the whole 30 candle bonus pre-ordering system for season pass 🤔

[livid mural]

Eh what-

Which

There was a pre-order system?

[lilac solstice]

I have no doubt there will be people who love it. Even if it stays like this. Personally it's not for me and that's alright

[livid mural]

I wish the nod emote wasn't locked behind honking nitro for some odd reason but yes nod emote

[lilac solstice]

Something about issues with scheduling between switch and mobile i think. Though at least we still get 30 candle bonus with the pass

[livid mural]

Also what was this pre order system 👀👀👀

[light wave]

(Please don’t quote me on this because i have NO idea LOL) BUT i remember reading in someone’s comment back in the day where someone mentioned that, TGC decided to remove it due it’s predatory marketing scheme that comes with the pre-ordering system. Again not my words 😹😹😹

[lilac solstice]

Used to be you could pre-order a season pass in advance. It would give you an extra candles but it wasn't really any better than buying it day of besides the extra candles

[sullen relic]

It used to be that in the period between seasons, you could pre-order the next season's pass, and the person who actually paid for it would get 30 seasonal candles. Buying the pass during season and all gifted passes only had 20 candles attached. The predatory aspect of it might be to do with the extra seasonal candles you'd get by "blindly" getting the season pass prior to the season coming out so you could confirm what cosmetics were on offer

[livid mural]

How is it predatory tho/gen

[lilac solstice]

Wasn't predatory at all? You bought something early in exchange for extra seasonals to start with. Imo seems fair. But I looked it up and people are saying schedule issues with Nintendo. Not predatory actions

[light wave]

this could be completely my interpretation so yes im not claiming anything BUT i THINK, it could be due to the fact that players wouldn’t have a clear idea of what they are paying for in the pass. Again it’s my assumption. I’m not sure

And i believe the season was still being in it’s last phase of testing during the pre-order period

[livid mural]

Agh I see
But honestly I can agree with Luci that I don't see anything predatory with it. You had an option to buy it before or after season starts even

Would be different if there was ONLY the pre-order option and none for during the season because it would force players to buy it

[light wave]

i think if you pay pass after the season released, you’d get 10 less seasonal candle 🤔

[lilac solstice]

Yup. It was 30 for pre-order, 20 for during the season

[spark lance]

"just buy this thing you know nothing about, we promise it will be worth it"
I can see a predatory tone to that.

[wooden hound]

you get an extra 10 candles for preordering either as compensation for regretting your purchase or as a thank you for trusting the process

[livid mural]

Thats just a one disadvantage though (imho)
I could see how it would make sense why they would give 10 extra to those who pre-ordered, much like businesses irl giving freebies to pre-orders than those who bought it after it's released

I can imagine why ppl would complain in the end lmao its the SKY community after all
Also yea I agree with @wooden hound

[peak mason]

I could've sworn I got 30 without preorder for remembrance

[lilac solstice]

That's cuz pre-order has been stopped. Iirc it was flight??

[light wave]

yup

[sullen relic]

All seasonal passes now default to giving 30 candles when you get one, whether you buy it or get gifted one -- preorders aren't a thing anymore. Speculation on my part, but may also be partly to rebalance it a bit since seasons are now longer (i.e. more days you need to keep playing for to get everything/more chances to miss out on things when you miss days)

[opaque cipher]

And people can't wait until the new season starts and say "I want my money back" smh so the preorder change was good

[livid mural]

Speaking of SC I'm thankful the SC that comes with previous DoL items are still included
But why can't they make it so with the recent $15+ purchases? I'm sure ppl would buy the packs more if it comes with the very sought after SC addition

I think the last $15+ item that had SC was the Summer Parasol? I remember getting 30 of it when I won the parasol from TGC

[opaque cipher]

Good suggestion, but I think that would devalue the worth of the seasonal candles

[sullen relic]

That's down to how TGC values the purchase packs. They've mentioned before (at least in the case of some items) that the price points won't change even if the additional candles were removed, so they added those candles to make the pack more appealing, as it were. Conversely, it'd also imply that any IAPs that they're not adding candles to are, in their opinion, already worth the dollar value on their own (even if the candles would be desirable to whoever wanted the pack)

[opaque cipher]

Last thing Sky needs is orange candles costing 8 to 10 dollars instead of five for 15

[light wave]

weirdly enough, especially when i recall this, its starts to feel like History is repeating itself but in a different way. It started with Aurora and now with remembrance. By no means am i taking sides with the people that bought the pass but now it kind of makes me worried about the devs, especially those that are not in charge of all the final decision making. Because Back in 2019,2020,2021, 2022, season used to be nicely wrapped up well before hit live version. Maybe a lack of breathing time for them, because beta changes seeps into the season while it has launched into live.

[gilded parrot]

@light wave, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta.

[livid mural]

Agh I see ;;;

I mean it would sell much more than just the item alone imo. And the newer season needs a LOT more candles than the older ones (Aurora alone needed 400+ altogether, not to mention the Wind Path bug midway of the season)

[opaque cipher]

I've asked TGC several times to polish the season more before it gets released, I don't think the message got across to them, I had even directly messaged a developer saying that Shattering was just too glitchy to be released and they released it a week later anyway

[livid mural]

I heard older seasons had a lot more break time in between them. I wouldn't mind TGC bringing it back because we can CLEARLY see they're rushing with everything
As a company I appreciate their effort to pump out content for us (because you have no idea how many people complain that in between seasons are boring, so TGC needed to finish deadlines quicker) but as a human being, I'd like them to be satisfied with their final work too

[opaque cipher]

If shattering was just a new feature instead of a season I feel like season of Aurora would have felt a lot more special

[paper tulip]

The time between Aurora and Remembrance was truly shocking as someone who’s been playing since the second season

[sullen relic]

Worth considering is that those extra sales from the item also coming with candles would also eat into candle sales that would've occurred because players otherwise didn't have enough candles to get the other items they wanted. I don't think we're in a position to speculate on exactly how TGC's income would behave without the analytics, but it's not an easy open-shut case just to assume that adding candles to all IAPs is their best course of action

[livid mural]

I started during Performance and ngl it does feel quicker-
I felt as if Performance-Shattering had a longer time between

@sullen relic damn good point too
Was just genuinely wondering because from a players pov one motivation I had to buy the DoL packs was because of the extra SC

[agile hazel]

Was it an actual dev?

[opaque cipher]

Yes, it was KJTN and she was NOT happy about it

[spark lance]

I also started during performance and I agree, it does feel like the time between seasons has decreased. I really wish they would have longer breaks between seasons so I don't get so ridiculously burnt out

[light wave]

EXACTLY! as a human being, i can’t imagine, deadlines that will cost millions of dollars (the mental pressure i mean) Like for example, i understand that the people are upset with recharge speed of the ultimate gift and it was bound to be reduced but given how heavy of a burden season of AURORA must have been on some of the staff + the holidays, i can’t blame them being slightly behind schedule for all the changes and nicely wrap up a season before it hits live.

[opaque cipher]

First I asked Ash while she was in chat and she said she didn't know anything about the deadlines and that she was working on a secret project (which we now know to be AURORA) so then I really felt the need to get the message across but it definitely did not change the deadline

[agile hazel]

Even if the devs wanted to change the deadline, they'd still be bound by the appstores, Nintendo and Sony to a certain range of dates

[livid mural]

I mean considering you directly messaged her yourself takes some big skyballs so props to you in a sense
(Though not advisable X""D)

[opaque cipher]

"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad."

[lilac solstice]

tbf i wouldn't be happy if this is why someone dmed me as well. Even if I agreed

[light wave]

does this mean any developer that has a tie up with Apple doesn’t have any say in scheduling deadlines? if so, thats a big yikes

[livid mural]

Yea I wholly understand that X"D I wouldn't too

Honestly I thought deadlines for game updates are all up to the developers themselves since its their application-

[lilac solstice]

Nintendo is very strict about their policies and scheduling. So yes, sometimes devs unfortunately don't have a say in these things

[opaque cipher]

It is actually, but until the agreement is finalized, the developers can take as long as they need

[light wave]

me too!!

[sullen relic]

Yet another concern in this case is whether delaying the content (the season, in this case) long enough for it to be received positively would also allow the game to stay alive for that time. In addition to potential player dropoff if there's no new content coming out, the live game's incurring constant ongoing costs compared to something that's still in development and not released yet. You could always argue they could've delayed Shattering and put out other content in its place, but that'd follow the same issue of whether they have enough time to develop the content quickly enough for a quick release.
TLDR: there's a time limit to how long content can be delayed in a live-service game before it starts dying

[opaque cipher]

It is. The actual problem with Nintendo is that they only allow a few game updates per year on their ip, Nintendo gave a reason for it before but I forget right now. It's not so much the content it's the major updates that change the back-end code or are considered a completely new game version. For example TGC wouldn't be using up there updates if they switch from 19.1 to 19.2 but the jump from 19 to 20 would use some of it up

To me it would make more sense for TGC to do bug patching over a period of a few months then update to the new version and then create a season so that way they can get rid of the bugs I've been playing them for years and only deal with the new bugs. The extra polish would go a long way

[light wave]

so the only way out is to expand their team.

[livid mural]

Flashbacks to that one person here saying TGC shouldn't hire new workers if they can't afford to pay for them as if TGC can evade that

• TGC pays their workers, I think the arguement was brought in because people were raging about the prices and brought in about "TGC making millions" + "TheY sHouLnD'T hIrE nEw wOrKeRs ThEn"

[opaque cipher]

Or they could discriminate against their Nintendo switch players and update the version in other games first but that could cause problems as far as people being mad that they don't have the same version of the game because people on switch would be able to play with other people on other platforms because the versions are different. It's the reason why you can't join another friend until you update to the latest version. Nintendo would be locked it like that for months

[peak mason]

how would that be a bad idea that's just how it works

[light wave]

but that would be like cat hair incident but on steroids no? 😭

[opaque cipher]

It's not like there's a major shortage of workers right now 🫠🫠🫠

[vital crystal]

Are TGC's goals beyond our understanding?

[opaque cipher]

I am seriously considering getting a bachelor's degree in user analysis and then apply to tgc. I know the requirement is at least 5 years of field experience but I think TGC is kind of desperate for employees and they would appreciate my understanding of the game since I've been here so long

[peak mason]

these are definitely some of the statements ever

[paper tulip]

In comparison to the last two seasons Remembrance almost feels like a break within itself, a lighter season (technically, not emotionally lol) that didn’t attempt to break the mold too heavily aside from playing around with shared spaces functionality. That could also be a contribution to how fast they released it

[livid mural]

If the cat hair incident was a house fire then that happening would be a forest fire

[vital crystal]

Do they accept full remote employees?

Although if you're near the headquarters i guess thats a plus? (don't send personal stuffs here tho)

[lilac solstice]

And this is why they have to be specific with the scheduling. Hence why it's possible shattering still couldn't be pushed back even with it being so buggy. Seasons generally come with a major updates before they start. ex. 19 to 20 like said above. Does it make it okay to push out half finished seasons? Not at all. And it's unfortunate we have to settle for less

[opaque cipher]

Tgc's core goal is to connect people through emotional experiences in their games. That was their logic when making the crawling mechanic, Aurora being with 4,000 other people in a concert arena, and the entire encouragement of guiding along moths and working with others to get to eden

[livid mural]

Yeyea agreed
Remembrance overall is just them further polishing existing features

Shattering and Aurora both had MAJOR new features, Performance did too but not as humongous

[paper tulip]

Also I know this isn’t on par with the conversation but I’m absolutely ecstatic that we can now activate the Aurora wings anywhere. This will really help fill out the attendance because as of right now it’s a sad amount of people present regularly

[light wave]

abyss too!! 👀

[opaque cipher]

I am very happy that TGC need this decision to go with the lighter season, but I hope that they are focusing more on polishing existing content rather than pumping out new content, I have 17 bug reports to write right now, 5 of them being major, between them all TGC would have to spend two weeks on the between the 17 bugs I report

[lilac solstice]

It seems 2022 was the year for lots of new features. Some good, some not as good, but they all were interesting to test

[livid mural]

Hopefully

Damn I admire your dedication for bug hunting-

[opaque cipher]

The longest standing bug that I know of is the forest bridge glitch. TGC has patched it three times, and every single time they update to a new version for example 16 to 17 the bridge glitch comes back

[vital crystal]

It seems 2022 was the year for lots of new features. Some good, some not as good, but they all were interesting to test
I remember someone mentioning that. Got swimming, and then exploding mountain, then the concert. Then back here in 2023 it somewhat came back to the old stuffs, with the shared spaces and quests being like assembly

[livid mural]

Bridge glitch?

[opaque cipher]

In the area with the lake right before the temple in hidden forest, one of the platforms that raise up is often already lit making it impossible to raise the third one. For new players and people with limited wings, it makes it very difficult to get to the last platform to shut off the raining. It has something to do with the dark plants being attached to the moving cutscene, so because the bridge raises and dark plants raise with it, when the dark plants are already burnt, like they usually are the bridge gets stuck where the first and second platforms are raised but the third will not raise.

[lilac solstice]

But at the same time, the refurbishing of old features feels like a good break. 2022 was full of so much happening, and a nice breather is always good in between the excitement. It's why I liked performance so much. A break between abyss which brought the diving feature, and shattering which brought upon the shards and crawling.

[opaque cipher]

I've been tracking this glitch since they updated to version 7. Not 17, VERSION 7

[sullen relic]

If the new feature from Shattering was the crawling, I'm actually not sure if it's an entirely new feature. Just realised the other day that when playing hide and seek, the hiding players actually crawl around for everyone else but the hiding player themselves -- but attempting to jump causes the hiding player to stumble a bit upon landing. I actually think the Shattering crawling was repurposed from the hide and seek one, though with some additional tweaks (e.g. crystals growing out of your body upon taking heavy damage)

[light wave]

Now that TJ mentioned about Nintendo’s policy. I feel like TGC got their hands tied enough with a bunch of consoles. I think not a lot of people would be unhappy if TGC decided to not expand on another popular console cough Xbox i’m looking at chu 👀

[lilac solstice]

Yup it's definitely an annoying bug. I noticed it glitches out once a server merge happens, which is why I tend to go there first before the merge

[livid mural]

It does seem so, I just remembered that hide and seek feature too (been a while since I played hide and seek in Sky pff)

Now that you mentioned it they might did do just that; readjusted the crawl feature for Shattering

[vital crystal]

Based from my understanding of this, when merge happens and the plants get burnt all at once, the game thinks that the plant on the bridge is not burnt hence stuck there at the ground since the movement/sequence of it rising is tied to the burning of the plant?

[opaque cipher]

It's an incredibly complex bug, and it could single handedly ruin a moth's first experience in Hidden Forest as it lies directly on the main path to Eden

[hybrid wedge]

Nah, it’s always been 2 or about 2 weeks between seasons. I think once we only had a one week intermission? And maybe once three weeks. But basically almost always two.

Source: I am a fossil

[vital crystal]

Also I've been meaning to send this earlier but couldn't insert into the topic — but anyone thought of angular prop positioning along with the rotational one (so that we don't have to rely on terrain slope at all)?

[opaque cipher]

But things FEEL more rushed, because of glitches and a lack of polish. TGC would have the season fully ready before it hit live, now they are only half done

[hybrid wedge]

Seasons have gotten longer since the game launched. I think Gratitude was only like 40-some days?

[spark lance]

the one week intermission was belonging transitioning to rhythm right?

[hybrid wedge]

Maybe they had the season fully ready? But also, seasons have gotten a lot more complex than they were in 2019 and early 2020. Like, Gratitude literally all we did was relive spirit memories

[lilac solstice]

Oh that would be wonderful to help out with even more unique shared space builds.

[sullen relic]

I see what you're trying to do there, flipped crab plushie

[livid mural]

Gratitude up till Rhythm yea
Only Enchantment started when Sky had actual season quests

[gilded parrot]

@livid mural, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta.

[light wave]

i think belonging ended at 10th or 12th Jan 2020 and Rhythm started on around 24th of Jan i believe so approx 12 days difference?

[opaque cipher]

🤫

[hybrid wedge]

Also Rhythm is kinda cheating because it was a somewhat updated version of the Winter season that ran during the soft launch/Light Awaits era

[lilac solstice]

And as I did point out before, they have to have everything scheduled out between all platforms. So pushing back a season to polish it isn't exactly easy

[spark lance]

me a wiki reader found out lightseekers transitioning to belonging was 1 week only 😭

[livid mural]

So the struggle to schedule everything was because of Switch?

[opaque cipher]

People don't realize Rhythm was the OG season. It's just Gratitude's deer mask that makes people forget.

[hybrid wedge]

Bless the wiki for sharing their extra brain cells with us

[vital crystal]

From what i remember is that the winter piano used to be an ult

[livid mural]

Damn Grat - Belonging fake seasons /jjjjjjjj

Also yeye I remember that the piano used to be an ult from a video I watched

[peak mason]

i think i remember someone saying the triangles mask wasnt supposed to be?

[opaque cipher]

The biggest issue is internal deadlines. However, the Switch is a major driving factor in those deadlines since it went live

[hybrid wedge]

I’m not sure what the details are, but I know that Nintendo has a lot more to their approval process than the App Store and Google Play do. Updates used to be a lot more random and frequent (but smaller) until the Switch launch

[vital crystal]

In the awaits winter event, the greeter was the guide. And the masks were too big

[hybrid wedge]

What Tj said ^^

[lilac solstice]

It was the hair. The hair was originally on think. People hated owl hair as an ult when the change was made

[light wave]

LMAO. Seeing the tables turn 😂😂😂😂

[livid mural]

Oh how the turntables it seems now that the owl hair is very sought after that they had to make an actual dupe for it

[peak mason]

i think one of the devs around switch release explicitly said nintendo has an update schedule tgc has to follow

[sullen relic]

I think that somewhat highlights why I really didn't like Shattering as a season: given the fact that I found the actual shard drops fairly uninspired as a seasonal task, the rest of the season just felt like it had even less than those early seasons where you at least got to relive spirits for emotes -- yet all we had were nondescript floating balls of light selling cosmetics. There was nothing I found "personable" about Shattering at all, and the shard memories didn't really do it for me since there was no interactivity

[hybrid wedge]

I will never not laugh at how much hate the owl hair got in beta 😂

[vital crystal]

Why does it sound like the switch is a painful console

[livid mural]

I'm learning so much Sky history from game fossils/jjj ilyall

@hybrid wedge WHY HOW THATS SO BAFFLING SHGDHDJDJD

Literally EVERYONE I KNOW IN SKY AND THEIR GRANDMAS love the owl hair

[opaque cipher]

I think it's finally time for TGC to bring back the old ults, and the best way they could do it is that once you have all of the cosmetics for all of the traveling spirits for that particular season, the event guide becomes available in Eden, then you can buy the ultimates as an in-app purchase. Once you unlock them with the purchase, then you can pay ascended candles. This would give a scented candles of purpose, make the season pass the better deal for getting ultimates, and prevent gatekeepers from getting angry

[light wave]

my friend apparently hates it with every fiber of her being, especially the chat system 💀

[hybrid wedge]

I DON’T KNOW FAYE but it might be my favorite Sky lore 😂

[lilac solstice]

I don't actually care for owl hair. But I loved the way the performance ult looked. So much floofier and soft

[vital crystal]

I concur in regards to the switch censor. The asterisks aren't even accurate xD

In regards to the ults coming back, I think tgc doesn't plan on returning the original ones.

[livid mural]

Personally I prefer owl as opposed to penguin because it looks more clean cut XD (Thats just me tho)

[undone rapids]

hi, I dont like owl hair both rhythm and performance one

but I guess it was hated because owl hair owners were mad it's "returning"

[agile hazel]

I'm fairly certain people only started liking owl hair because of tiktok

[lilac solstice]

Agree to disagree. We all have our opinions and they're all valid

[vital crystal]

Although the ults I'd want is the nyoom umbrella, Phoenix cape, and tattered assembly cape. Good stuffs

The owl hair looks like antennae...

[spark lance]

and that's how people started selling their own accounts (and I'm serious) 💀

[light wave]

an idea popped into my head but i’m deathly afraid of speaking of it coz im scared it will cause a whole riot 💀💀💀

[livid mural]

THE BYOOONG AND NYOOOM UMBRELLA MY BELOOVEEDDDD

But idm it's not coming back BUT HOWEVER I am genuinely curious what kind of dupe TGC will plan for that one 👀👀👀

[opaque cipher]

I also came up with a system to fix the Harmony Hall instrument crisis, I put it into a sky survey, but then I lost the survey because my phone died. Basically, the system introduces a new currency from black shards, which give fragments of Harmony, which you pay for with fragments and ascended candle and you can get any one of three instruments that rotate monthly in Harmony Hall. The ultimate instruments could then be unlocked as an IAP, then be purchased with ascended candles and fragments of Harmony

[lilac solstice]

I just want deer mask so I can cosplay as two of my ocs. I'd literally be happy if that's the only ult i got from the past

[sullen relic]

Might make more sense if you look at the ults that came before it: Lightseekers and Belonging brought along ults with very distinct functions and visuals in the Jellyfish Umbrella and the Bonfire, while Gratitude's Deer mask was pretty big and distinctive as well. Not to say that the owl hair didn't have a unique shape, but comparatively speaking, maybe it just seemed more..."minor" at the time relative to what had come before it?

[undone rapids]

id love a head accessory that would work like antennas instead of wearing a hairstyle with them

[hybrid wedge]

Ahh yeah Spearmonkey, that sounds right—up til then all the other UGs were big flashy separate items, and owl hair felt a lot more subtle in comparison

[opaque cipher]

The central goal of all of the proposals I have made to TGC is to make the ultimates worth getting during a season pass, but not be hard locked behind the season pass, even if you must pay to get them in some way.

[sullen relic]

but the owl hair came with handles for your piggyback companion to hang onto

[vital crystal]

If ever I'm thankful of, is that no emote is an ult.

[livid mural]

@sullen relic Hmmmm yea thats a good point ofc ppl would compare with the previous ults before Rhythm
(I guess we can see how the community changed from being practical to being about appearance/lh)

@undone rapids my one question is why the witch hat AIN'T an actual cosmetic but a spell-

[lilac solstice]

Plus to add on, they had switch the piano out for it. Which had a function, and also had a unique animation at the time as well (it folded iirc).

[opaque cipher]

I think we can safely say that we won't have to get anymore ultimate instruments, which I am very happy about.

[vital crystal]

I keep seeing the forbidden black-gold in the shared memories here in beta. And yet those players in the memory doesn't even play it...

[light wave]

that one dev being a lurker being like

IM JOKING

[undone rapids]

I have no idea too. I hate the hair that comes with it, but I love the hat. I wish I could wear just the hat, even if I couldn't wear it with other hairstyles

[livid mural]

Black gold? 👀

[vital crystal]

Oh ye tj i was thinking about that recently too. That tgc shouldn't make ult instruments because dang 🛐 that sanctuary handpan sounds really magical yet not really obtainable anymore

@livid mural yea it was just a glimpse of a shared memory altho idk if we're supposed to discuss it here

Nagati pls don't yeet me fkfhsk

[lilac solstice]

I actually hated that the instruments were ult locked, not because I didn't have access, but because I wanted the new players to have them too. It's why I really wasn't too happy with the triumph instruments. I wanted players to have the original instruments.

[livid mural]

Aw okie X"D

Also can agree on that handpan, I love the sound of it

[sullen relic]

Agreed -- as much as I'm happy I got the bugle, it disappoints me that there won't be more bugle gremlins joining the doot army 🎺

[opaque cipher]

You do not want to see the messages that I sent to tgc's beta feedback when I first saw those ripoffs hand pans guitar drum and the fledgling harp

[undone rapids]

anyway owl hair really doesnt seem that unique compared to other ults of that time, now it just has a ton of value because it's so popular

||as well as current ults dont seem that unique compared to the past or less iconic perhaps (imo ofc)||

[livid mural]

Holds my ult elder manta cape dearly

[lilac solstice]

Yes. Handpan is one of my favorites and I wish others could be able to play it too.

[opaque cipher]

I wish that the new ults had special functions, and they would be available in Eden once you completed all of the seasons and be treated just like the regular constellation ultimates, (except IAP AND THEN ASCENDED) this would make sense of your lies and would make sense from a gameplay standpoint

[vital crystal]

So far this projector from remembrance holds a significant value for me t.t there's some worthwhile items like the abyss cape on a personal view but other than those, we got... Pants and more capes

[white latch]

I was thinking about that one feature where you can let other player borrow your instrument or any props (not the decoration one)

But I think I should move my message to wish list or whatever

[livid mural]

Ngl I suggested the krill horn back in Shattering to have a krill repel function, much like how they're tryna do with the new krill distracting method in beta

But ofc it got declined X"D

I love the horn nonetheless I love terrorising random moths with it

[opaque cipher]

I usually send my wishes to beta feedback because I know they'll be looked at. I only send the least likely to happen wishes to wish list

[lilac solstice]

Oh i love that. I'd gladly rent out my instruments as someone who has them all for just a few hugs. Mostly cuz I'd hate for currency to be tied in since that would become bad quick imo.

[light wave]

BACKPACK. PLS. A Backpack that allows you to carry multiple things 🌚

[vital crystal]

Hooo coming to think of these shared spaces, i wonder if we're getting an instrument rack where we can place it in our space and have the ability to place instruments that we own into that. Then when someone visits your place, they can "borrow" that instrument 👀

[livid mural]

Wasn't there a backpack ult in Assembly?

[sullen relic]

That's actually a fun thought: what if ult instruments (including the past ones) came with a secondary button where you could temporarily give a timed spell version of the same instrument to anyone holding your hand?

[opaque cipher]

It's funny that you say that, I'd like to share with the chat my current submissions to beta feedback and see what you all think about them. Sorry to be the dominant person in the conversation

[lilac solstice]

Well, as much as I don't like the shared spaces, the shared space spell sorta functions like one. You can place a multitude of props anywhere with the spell.

[undone rapids]

yeah there are still some nice stuff: manta projector is surely very cool, as well as the abyss cape having it's unique jewelery, or like the flight pants that are gorgeous

but I can't say the same for other ults. To me they are not as great as they were before

I wish tgc would go one of the two ways:

1. just make ults available for everyone after certain things are done by the player
   OR
2. just make ults worth it and respect the amount of money and time players spend to receive the ult items

[white latch]

We need a wish-list discussion, Jesus Christ #wishlist-and-ideas-archived was 1 hour cooldown 😭

[livid mural]

Agree on the second one

[lilac solstice]

I love that beta chat basically become wishlist discussion though. So yes this is proof we need one

[vital crystal]

What makes abyss cape unique for me is the jewelry yeah — the buttons keep the sewed part of the cape in place (the cape doesn't completely open if you use the wise stance)

The making ults worth it is something i can definitely agree. Although sometimes the view of tgc to them "not supposed to give unfair advantage" is hard to agree on — cuz like... It's an ult...

[livid mural]

Going back about the Rhythm hair initially being hated, I remember someone mentioning in another server that Dreams cosmetics used to be hated too (mostly because of the animal masks) but now lookat genchat/lh

[undone rapids]

yeah thats for sure
I feel kinda bad for talking about not beta stuff in beta chat, but on the other hand it's the only chat that keeps the same convo for awhile instead of changing the topic every 3 mins and it just kinds goes how it goes. people talk about it and i want to talk about it too

[opaque cipher]

Text Wall Incoming

1. Next event time display in settings (time until Grandma, Geyser, Turtle & Reset)

2. An in-game noise that signifies an event will start in 5 minutes. Shards have the red sky, reset has a sound effect, why not add them for Turtle, Geyser, & Grandma?

3. Dark blue skirt with ripples at the bottom with a cosmic manta texture

4. Season of Culivation
   Gardening season where spirits find a cove in Isle that needs to be culivated in order to grow food. Country themed cosmetics: (cowboy hat, jean style pants, apron & bonnet, straw hat, red cape with white diagonal line, suspender pants, green mask with a leaf on the forehead). Quest ideas include finding a water spring by collecting tools scattered across a wide area from small ruins left behind, which helps the spirit to dig into the spring which creates a river through the sandy area. Then, help the spirit to pollinate by guiding butterflies to the field with a scepter that involves climbing up a large hill with light blooms and jellyfish that carry the player around.

5. Meditation Nook (sit & turn into a firefly) around the campfire in Forest, flying near wax orbs causes them to melt.

6. Skirt with purple waves

7. Violin with sustained notes

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[light wave]

that jewelry was the whole reasoning for me to buy the pass!!! 🥺🥺

[vital crystal]

It was the mask for me because i didn't like the first few iterations of the free version. And then I found out that the coat cape is the Supreme cape of all the capes in the game (Phoenix cape goes second)

[lilac solstice]

I didn't care for abyss, and the ult cape was definitely one of my faves for sure! I also am a sucker for red capes though

[opaque cipher]

Part 2 incoming: Please discuss my suggestions! I want YOUR feedback on them

[livid mural]

I love fancy looking white capes and blue capes, but the Abyss cape is severely underrated I agree. The jewellery and also the unique star patterns!!

[opaque cipher]

8. Ability to turn into krill during Days of Mischief in Cackling Crab Area.

9. Plants & fish in Sanctuary Ocean other than the trench

10. 🦆 in prairie temple pond & penguins in Hermit Valley sliding down the hill

11. Gain a free spell for each group that gets all light on the Valley Sliding Race (encourages people to work together & gives collecting light purpose)

12. Ability to purchase permanent trail colors during Days of Rainbow

13. Vault social area & outfit station

14. Ability to hold an umbrella and candle simultaneously

15. Allow people to choose height (keep current resize spells available) by adding larger permanent resize & smaller permanent resize spell.

16. Max Height Mask for 8-person puzzle spirit

17. Backpack to carry up to 3 items or 2 instruments

[hybrid wedge]

TGC: Makes a backpack, but it has the Assembly symbol on it

[vital crystal]

I feel something about the sustain of the violin is what's making the instrument hard to implement (might have to include a slide button other than just pressing?). Although violin would really be nice. Other than that, the home mediation shrine statues could be improved I guess — the birb towers from light awaits were more appealing

[livid mural]

No like what happened with the backpack? I thought it was part of the Assembly ults

[light wave]

i love assembly but pls no 💀

[vital crystal]

OHHH YEAH
Wasn't the plan for the backpacks is that assembly items are to have the assembly symbol on them if they're a backpack? I keep forgetting to bug report this — non assembly backpacks would be regular backpacks

[lilac solstice]

There wasn't a backpack as an ult. The assembly backpacks were what they had put some of the props in. They had the assembly symbol on it, and we're not exactly the most appealing thing imo

They changed it later as more props came out for different seasons and spirits

[livid mural]

Thinking thrice abt no.9 because with the recent updates my phone is very crunchy in Sanct

[opaque cipher]

They changed it to instead tiny models of the prop that sit on your cape

[sullen relic]

Wasn't that kind of what the old prop bag was, where all the shared space props just appeared as a generic blue bag with the Assembly logo on it?

[viscid sundial]

The only prop that still has the assembly backpack is that one orb

[livid mural]

So it used to only bring assembly items? Is that what you mean?

[undone rapids]

I know we have more ults now than before but Id prefer quality over quantity for ults since the items are a luxury by their definition
if tgc doesnt want it to be like ptp players get most cool stuff and make it more balanced, then pass only ults should stop existing
but knowing tgc its gonna be 500 candles for each ult item

but like damn. id prefer it to be fair for both sides or at least one. since the ults that have been out recently are just extremely bad. there are exceptions, but damn, imo most of them are bad

[white latch]

I remember I used to believe those non-functions prop has functions 😭

[vital crystal]

Would love the hold umbrella and candle simultaneously 🛐

[opaque cipher]

Hey @hybrid wedge ! Can you please make a #wishlist-discussion channel please? I'm not sure if you have that power but since we are both fossils perhaps you can?

[viscid sundial]

The assembly backpack was just a model on your back for props, then they changed to the actual models of the props

[sullen relic]

All the props you see now appear as miniature versions of the props worn on your back when you're carrying them around, but that wasn't the case before. When they weren't placed down somewhere, they all appeared as the same model on your back: a little blue bag with the Assembly logo on it (the logo, the later removed from props that didn't come from Season of Assembly itself)

[lilac solstice]

No Assembly was the first season to really introduce props as a major cosmetic to buy, for shared spaces. The backpack was just what some props looked like on your back. Unfortunately you couldn't put more than one though.

[livid mural]

Ah wait I see sgshsksks took me a while to process 🤣 thank thank

[lilac solstice]

But this is what they used to look like, if you're curious Faye
#outfit-requests message

[hybrid wedge]

I don’t have those magic powers, no, but the wishlist channel intentionally has a slowmode that long so that the suggestions don’t get buried by discussion, or arguments don’t build up when someone doesn’t like a suggestion they read

Ohhh sorry I read correctly now

A separate channel

I also don’t have those kinds of magic powers

[sullen relic]

so what magic powers DO you have?

[viscid sundial]

I feel like the same problem of the arguments would happen too

[agile hazel]

You can be our messenger then, Nagati

[hybrid wedge]

The power to abooz slowmode

[opaque cipher]

I hereby grant you the magic powers ||to ask TGC to do it for us||🪄

[lilac solstice]

Not the slow mode

[vital crystal]

I remember getting ghost pinged in the wishlist but i guess it's a mistake.

I guess we can forward wl-discussion to the server mod channel thingy 😔 also rip ThatHelpBot

[hybrid wedge]

A separate channel especially for that is still likely to lead to arguments about suggestions. But that said, it’s 100% fine to talk about ideas in the relevant related channels, like #seasons-events-chat or #cozy-sky-discussion

[lilac solstice]

I always forget season chat exists. I should look there more

[opaque cipher]

Why did this chat just die?

[hidden nova]

it is said that increasing limit of placebles may create instability in low end devices, how about they just add warning note at certain point? that notes that it may cause issues and crashes to said devices

there should definitely need to exist more notes and toggles in this game

[livid mural]

Everyone had their fill of words 😂

[hybrid wedge]

Because a lot of people won’t read it. It’s really not great to leave things in the game knowing that they can crash a bunch of devices

[lilac solstice]

Well i think that's part of the reason they want us to test it. That way they can fix up any issues with crashing on low end devices.

[livid mural]

Still think they should send bug notes in the in-game inboxes

[opaque cipher]

It's just a copy and paste

[paper tulip]

In either case I was devastated when I placed down my bonfire ult and went to grab my guitar to sit and play, only to find the bonfire poofed from existence. I think one placable prop limit is reasonable, but there should be no reason instruments can’t be played.

[lilac solstice]

Inboxes are so underutilized

[light wave]

ooo in-game! yes. That’d be more like an in-escapable warning. Most players won’t be able to say “oh i wasn’t aware of it”

[wet light]

I wonder if they could give it a warning sound?

[hybrid wedge]

They send links to the patch notes though. I know my eyes already glaze over when those inbox messages get long, with all that tiny text. And I’m fake-professionally obligated to read everything 😭

[livid mural]

Ye ik but they still don't do it :""""DDDD

For some reason

[hidden nova]

well is that tgc problem? no, they will have insurance, like comon alot of people really want big space and are dying for it to happen

[paper tulip]

There is an overall lack of communication with players who are strictly game-only 😪

[opaque cipher]

This is one of the first things I would bring up once I become a staff member of TGC if my plans work out

[livid mural]

Yea but just the bugs don't seem to get notified in inboxes, particularly the Wind Paths bug

I think they should at least do it for heavily game changing bugs like the Wind Paths bug since it can literally convert your candles if you're not aware how it works

[light wave]

i think even the ratio of people that reads the patch note is not proportionate with the people who doesnt

[paper tulip]

Godspeed!

[agile hazel]

Sky is the only game where I read the patch notes

[livid mural]

Speaking of inboxes they don't seem to have fixed that red dot still appearing even though we've read it

[hybrid wedge]

They’ve been careful about tricky/dangerous bugs like that though. There’s a real risk that if you announce “HEY if you do this really specific thing on purpose it makes something really bad happen please don’t do it,” that will make a lot of people go do that thing that the message asked them to please not do. 🙃

[lilac solstice]

I think if they put out mail for super bad bugs, like the wind paths bug (obviously not describing how to do it) would be beneficial. Especially super flashy bugs or stuff that might hurt peoples eyes

And yes, i do agree with that too Nagati, but it would be the same with posting it in #known-issues though imo

[errant dirge]

Say I can not light friends in the home tree is this a known bug or am I just special 🤔

[livid mural]

Humans istg/j

Also yeye what Luci said! At least somehow let ppl know that there's a potential harmful bug

[hidden nova]

some reverse thinking there but that can be said literally about everything 💀 including the patch note stuff

[opaque cipher]

TGC definitely shouldn't lower prices. In fact, they should raise them more!

[paper tulip]

However if there is a risk to a players personal progress they’re much more likely to listen to that warning. I’ve seen players avoid wind paths like the plague once they caught word that it may affect their seasonal candles

[hybrid wedge]

Both

[livid mural]

Staring hard at my one friend who'd rather take the long way to geyser

And then there's me who just uses it as normal because I'm aware how it's triggered and how not to trigger it

[untold zephyr]

yo does anyone have the current price for the days of bloom capes?

[hybrid wedge]

Look, as someone who may have been that kid that went to touch the hot stove after being told it was hot…
And as someone who has many friends who were also kids that went to touch hot stoves….

[opaque cipher]

You... don't want to know

[livid mural]

Lets just hope they pull a last minute discount-

(Very thin chance of 2%)

[untold zephyr]

is.. is it that bad

[agile hazel]

Yeah, as someone who is in #questions-and-help daily. Don't underestimate how ridiculous players can be

[opaque cipher]

Between the two IGC items, we are talking cure for me pants level crisis

[paper tulip]

Saw someone in the questions chat today claim that TGC gifted them 7,000 AC….I’m more likely to be struck by a meter than have TGC gift me that many candles

[livid mural]

That one smile in pain meme:

[light wave]

40% discount as post valentines day ✨🌟⭐️

im honestly jking pls don’t take it seriously 💀

[lilac solstice]

~~I mean we get people here asking the same question we answered 5 messages before ~~

[hidden nova]

thats a good lesson tho, since tgcs going off with the realistic economy ingame might aswell make everything realistic, also dw i also know that kinds of people but they never seemed to complain on why it was hot

[hybrid wedge]

Honestly that is a claim I’d be reallly skeptical of 🤨

[livid mural]

And then they insist that its real 😭😭😭😭

Like darling I'm no vet but I don't have the IQ that makes Antartica look tropical too

[opaque cipher]

Or they could say "early April fool's lol it's actually half that price" 😭 right...🥹🥹🥹RIGHT???

[paper tulip]

Oh it was definitely either a glitch or they were showing off a hacked account. The rest of their candle count was minimal and they claimed it had just happened that morning

[cosmic mist]

omg guys its real tgc gave me 10000000000000000 AC today because im built different 😍 /j

[livid mural]

||Was defo hacked, can confirm||

[lilac solstice]

Well definitely report anything suspicious like that to the mods if you ever come across it. Generally it's hacks

[opaque cipher]

Ok but why is TGC so easy to hack? Most of the other games I play are pretty much hack proof. There are mods, but no one is able to hack...

[agile hazel]

Or that one person here who claimed to cr 25 candles daily DURING seasons

[livid mural]

Unless Piggyback spirit pulled a Grouch move but with AC instead

@agile hazel Unless they're in the CN server, but global? Nah man

[hidden nova]

it is not, its server side game so most of the stuff they have is on their side, the cosmetics cant be seen by other players and all the big count currency cant be spent

or if you mean upcoming stuff then yeah thats kinda easy to get hands onto

[lilac solstice]

Idk but this reminded me of the time abyss suddenly costed white candles for like an hour and they had to roll back progress for people who bought the season with regular candles

[light wave]

why does it reminds me of those scam callz 💀

[opaque cipher]

Sometimes I feel the need to emulate my feelings about hackers in this channel

[gilded parrot]

Using emulators is against the Sky TOS, @opaque cipher. Please don’t use or discuss emulators here.

[livid mural]

"Elo this is Alex from TGC
It seems like your Skykid has a virus"

[cosmic mist]

if you give me your account information i can give you infinite candle and hearts 🌝