#h1-for-new-players
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hades tip for new players: dont give up
unless you really don't feel like your run is worth it, then you can give up & try again!
i bought the game just about an hour ago and i already love it
it was a tricky decision but i am very happy with it
i meant in general, not on specific runs 
i did give up when it was in early access and after playing quite a bit of the switch ver i regret not being present for the entire journey up to it
yes, I thought you did, but I also felt I'd clarify since there is an option literally called "give up" in the game 
So I've max out all heart of Dusa.
How do I unlock the last one?
||to unlock her final hearts you need to renovate the lounge||
||and you need the reward from the third boss to fill in the final hearts||
||i know that some of the required renovations for the lounge is a rug, and the removal of cerberus's scratches||
||and also her final hearts are very expensive||
||but you can get those back later||
||You mean everything except your room?||
no
the lounge
the bottom right of the house of hades
Oh the dining room
I did a table and a carpet already
isnt he green ._.
arent the shades green
yeah they sorta in between blue and green
its complicated
beware of spoilers
I just worry about story spoiler
spoiler
Huh?
||demeter||
its a spoiler
Am I wrong to assume she’s in the game
||you have to make it to the surface to unlock her||
|| Demeter is considered a spoiler for the game, she appears after the final boss ||
you have to spoiler tag the name
I've completed the game twice now. So I don't worry about that
that's what the point is
it's not about you, it's about the channel rules
others can enter the channel & not know
that's why things get hidden behind spoiler tags
||yeah just click the link and it will take you to the wiki which will tell you how to unlock all the hearts in the game||
or you can just do that
lmao
Quick question, how do I equip abilities? I'm on attempt 4 of the first dungeon and I only seem to have one ability, despite getting others from the gods.
you get boons throughout the run
its a rogue-lite
oh right
Note I've never played this so
ok
first time doing any rogue-lite actually
Hades is a good introduction to the genre. Hope you have fun with it
boons auto equip
but never played it tho
you can check your boons during a run by pressing B if using KBM & - on switch
Its not bad if I die in the 5th and around there dungeon right?
I'm not sure what the default for other controllers are
it doesnt really matter
just know that hades is gonna make fun of you
I got the captain america bull shield and gotta say, shouldve saved up and gotten the spear oof
What about coins though, where do I use them?
Charon's shop or the well of Charon
charon shop
you can tell it is a shop if the icon is a yellow bag with a skull on it
but could be nice to save for the end
Where is the charon shop initially?
middle of the run & right before boss
no, not in the house
so theres no problem no matter where I lose and how?
oh ok sorry
@pastel cipher can i get banned
also if you want to get banned then just leave
no i want to get banned
?
Because you asked so kindly, no
no
just some dialogue
ok can i ask in a different way
@pastel cipher Can you plz ban me 😇
Why in hell would you want to get banned? 🤦♀️
Mate, if you wanna leave the server leave
No mod here is gonna ban you just because you want a ban
why not
idk it is fun
no
Then don’t act like one
To #off-topic-discussion please, this is incredibly off topic
i am not kid
just ignore it or it'll continue >.>
yes
ok nvm
ok
Okay so I’m working on clearing with every weapon. I kinda ignored the fists bc I couldn’t work with them in the beginning but now I am kind of liking them. Made it to Elysium without losing too much health and with all my DD’s intact. I am shook 😅
fists are p good once you get the hang of melee
Zeus on base fists can put in some great work :3
yea building like ares(dire misfortune + impending doom) or zeus is always a trip
Same :3 I forget the time now since it was during EA
I think I have Zeus so far, Poseidon, Artemis and ||Demeter’s aid||
iirc my first EA clear when hydra was the final boss was with spear
cool
now ive seen the light and love bow
this is the perfect time to explore boons & find out what they do & which ones you prefer

Yes! I gotta admit I am now even more set on clearing than I did before my first clear 😊
:/
oh i did not get banned

i wonder why
they should
they wont
truueee
really
yeah
they should
anyways, we should go back to ignoring this topic
yeah
cuz now it's derailing this chat again
bow is good :/
tell me a rule that i should not break
hidden bow is used in speedruns a lot :3
you know my complicated relationship with it
wait this is the new players chat
I have to spray on principle
and chiron i think holds a wr or smth
yup
aaaa my bad
SPOILER
mhmm!
you get that first taste & now you want moar
tbh stuff like rail, bow, fist have a larger learning curve compared to the others
I had a good run with it a while ago. Had the upgrade which made the attack so much easier to use 😅 next run without that upgrade.... not so good 🙃
i dont think bow has a large learning curve
Yessssss
small steps!
eh the timing and needing to get more consistent at dash attacks seem to be difficult for people as far as i can tell
and the special takes a bit more effort to use effectively
I made so much progress already these last few weeks!

i feel like it is easy to use, but hard to use it well
the bow is by far the easiest thing I could use
nd thunder dash. ONLY GET THUNDER DASH
hey im kinda new
i killed ||hades|| 2 times
but im really struggling now
and cant kill him for the third time
any tips?
How do I kill || the bone hydra ||
||You really have to get used to his moveset and know how to dodge it, it comes with practice, also the minions being spawned on phase 1 can go all the way from very easy to really annoying like Strongbows so that can change the way your fight goes, also having a general idea for your build is always a good thing, if you can force certain gods to get your build going that'd be even better.||
hes the easiest boss imo
all im gonna say is
know what the different heads do
and start with the hardest
any good boons against him?
||There isn't any specific boons that perform well universally in that fight, it comes down to synergies with the weapon/other boons that you have, for example, Artemis attack on Bow is quite good meanwhile on Rail its really underwhelming so rail will naturally perform worse with such a setup.||
Hi, I have six hearts with Achilles, but I am not able to give him Ambrosia, am I missing anything?
you have to unlock the heart
aka ||free him from his contract||
you need a lot of dialogue w patroclus & achilles & some other stuff
What is the min-max length of styx tunnels?
my brad of atlas is good for 6 rooms... just wondering if I can do one more tunnel safely
braid*
3-5 iirc
Should I use the || spiked collar or lucky tooth ||
What for?
If for final boss, either is fine, other good options include Evergreen acorn and Broken spearpoint
acorn great..
Just in general I’m on the second boss
Is there a way to higher ur chances of getting the lifesteal-boon for the first weapon?
Yah, the hammerupgrade
No
unfortunately, the collar removes the health it gave you when you take it off
Id recommend lucky tooth over collar tbh
So does tooth remove the dd
yeah
Yeah it does
(i wasnt asking, just stating a fact, if that's what came from my phrasing)
tooth can't remove the dd if you spent it 🧠
collar could be more useful if you have 3 DDs remaining
Yeah not to brag or anything but I just went 15 rooms deep
mostly because +100 on last dd gets chunked, while 25+25+25+50hp over 3 DDs can help you survive on low hp longer 🤷♂️
i think
Never used a boon don't know how
They become part of your cast/dash/attack. Do what you've been doing but you'll have the helping hand of an olympian
So I don't need to activate it or nothi4
In short, don't worry about it. Your regular actions get strengthened by someone's power so long as you're alive
you just have a respawn mechanic in built
you can die, but you can't die die
As any rogue-lite, you keep the things you've collected during your run until you fail. But you restart with your base stats should you die during a run
I need some help
how do I know which weapon I got each material with
like how do I know which weapons I got titan's blood with
I don't think you can know, and I don't get why you would want to know
also I love your pfp
they probably don't have 3dds if theyre still at lernie, which is why i recommended tooth
I want to know so I can pick the weapon I need so I can get a certain mat
i can't even beat the first one
you'll get there!
I somehow defeated the first boss the first time I did it and then never could do it again
I believe in you!
also advice from guy who did 18 runs. Coronacht best weapon. Use it for backstab damage.
You can do it! It took me ages to defeat the first one as well but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty easy!
Coronacht is best for packing a punch, but if you're thinking of speedrunning Exagryph is the way to go.
My average time with Eris rail is genuinely faster than the time I worked hard to get with Coronacht.
Chronacht is amazing but i find it annoying you have to charge before shooting so i rather go with varathar (?)
(Should aspects be spoilered by the way?)
only hidden aspects
varatha
varatha needs to get close which is...you know.. NO
spear has a long range even before the hammer, and it has a really long range special
also if you dont wanna get close to enemies youre basically ignoring half the weapons of the game lol
choronacht has a hammer upgrade which turns it into a shotgun lol
bow's best hammers are point-blank and twin/triple shot, which require you to be close
yep
well, best hammers for all the aspects except chiron
but somehow I like to work with a close range bow instead of sword
so basically you like bow
I was about to say, i slayed the hydra many times with standing out of range
yes
but varatha does look cool to use but I just keep dying lol
bow has the option for hammers which increase the count of special arrows and increase damage for consecutive special arrow hits, which can be useful
bruh wtf Varatha is broken
I can use it like a bow without the charge up
get an artemis boon and its suddenly one of the best weapons lol
I know right?? XD
I got the aspect of achilles. Let's see what I can do now
i love varathar, but i haven't been able to get out with it yet
Is varathar reveal of a bow of lvl 1?
I don’t I ever used titan blood on the bow yet
varatha is a spear
ohhh
i think the they think that varatha is called "varathar"
I think that’s what’s also my spear is
every spear is varatha
tho mostly, I’m just farming when I last played it, farthest I got in the game was at the 4th boss
Oh
Just finished the game, simply beautiful ending
I think I'll try soon to complete all sidequests
This game is amazing
Congrats!
what is the average runs a person takes to complete the game?
to clear a run i think the average is about 30 but to actually get to the credits i have no idea
Yeah 20-30 seems about average for the first clear. And subsequent clears are easier after the first one
Yea after first clear way easier
OMG OMG OMG
YES
||I BEAT HADES FIRST TRY LIKE FIGHTING HIM 1v1 for the FIRST TIME LETS GO||
Whoa GG
Yo congrats @cedar torrent however please spoiler tag the name of ||Hades as that's considered spoilers in this channel
||
It's in the pinned messages here 
but ye sorry bout that and ty : )
So, just arrived here, still experimenting and getting the feel of things, tell me, what should one spend their darkness on? (In the Mirror, yes)
Boiling blood gud
boiling blood is good but that comes in a later mirror tier
something a new player wouldn't exactly have access to 
tru
what is ||square shaped orange bottle|| for?(i dont play english version so i dont know the name), i cant find any use for it
That's Ambrosia which is needed to progress/complete the relationships with your friends, it's like better Nectar(the small round orange bottles)
i should give it to someone?
||im was trying to give it to poseidon which missing 1 heart with him but i cant, do i need to complete some requirements?||
Yeah, there's usually a requirement
|| iirc Poseidon's one had something to do with fishing but I could be wrong ||
okay, thanks
ambrosia can only be used for the locked hearts
i checked on wiki and its ||18 fishes||
so once you unlock them you have to use ||ambrosia|| to fill them
Im 20h in and still havent escaped. Been close once, but the last boss is annoying. Whats the easiest weapon to escape with?
I think that’s personal. Mine was the spear and I was almost 50 h in at my first clear
You'll get 6 different answers to that question
It's the weapon you've learned to use most effectively, basically
I like shield because blocking is always good in every biome
Anyway if you're 20h in and at the final boss I think you're ahead of the curve
Just keep filling that mirror
Also for the final boss, to dodge him you should ||hide behind the pillars when he does his laser attack, and try to not take any dmg when you have those orange orbs that he throws stuck in you, they double the dmg you take.||
||Or get super close So the laser won't affect you and keep attacking. Always hug your papa when he's angry||
||only in the later half of the fight though||
any tips for minos andd the other guy? having a tough time there
There is a mark on you whenever you are targeted by Theseus' spear, make sure you're safe whenever that happens (behind a pillar for example to block the spear), getting close to him will make him spin, you just have to get used to that timing, dashing too early or too late will get you hit. In general you want to focus on Asterius first because if Theseus calls for a God's Aid and Asterius isnt dead yet, it'll be more difficult managing both + the God being called, Asterius moves are generally stiff and slow, you just gotta attack at the right times when you have a clear chance, take your time, rushing to get hits in at the wrong times can cost you a lot of health and possibly make you lose the run, you also want to make sure you keep enough distance for whenever he charges towards you, you can stop him by making him hit a pillar/wall, if you're too close you wont have enough time to react, when he gets enraged the delay between his moves will be a little shorter, you wont see him pausing as much. With enough practice you'll get the hang of that fight, it's tough for most people.
I tend to dodge spears based on the targeting sfx
i just dash aimlessly
its not fighting them a thousand times what makes it hard
its that u have to fight every single boss till then to make it TO him
You can try to aim for certain things that make your fight easier or make your transition to biomes better, such as Strong Drink from Dionysis/ Divine Dash from Athena or for example Calculated Risk/Unshakable Mettle
hmm ya those do make it better
how does death defiance work?
if i spend the 30 coins then return with 1 hp. then play again.
does that save for every single run i go through or is it just that one time then i spend 30 coins again for the next run
You mean the mirror upgrade? The mirror upgrades are all permanent so you dont have to buy it every run, once you buy it thats it, and you return with 50% hp not 1hp
oh thats sick
i see thank you thank you
so i can stack lucky tooth and the death defiance?
lucky tooth (if you die return with 50 hp)
Yes you can
awesome thats super cool! ty ty
if you use the shield, you can block blows of all of bosses
and bull rush them at the opportunity
just for future @last trail victory screenshots go into #h1-victory-boasting and are spoilers in this channel 
woah didnt know
Will go there for boasting, thanks Than

i use gun
yep
i just use that 3 shot move and spam y
or some x spamming
with shotgun move
Are there secret biomes or bosses?
Please spoiler the boss name since this channel is for new players
|| Go to the surface?? What else lol ||
yes but it is a secret
Finally beat ||Meg|| after dying to her a couple times. Man the game is a lot more fun than I expected
nice
Congrats 
Good job!
Good job!
Good job!
Good job!
congrats! it can be a hard fight
aw man almost beat|| the hydra ||on my first attempt. I was in the zone lol
Don't feel too bad about it, wait til you learn what else that sneaky serpent has to offer
if i take a god keepsake and get the boon in tartarus, can I keep the keepsake and get another boon in asphodel?
Don't think so
ok thx
for the Olympians Keepsakes, you can see in your Boons list when it's yet to be activated, after it's done, you should switch to something else
Blocking damage is real good
I still didnt block half the damage and used 1 ||death defiance||
Congrats!
Spoiler tag the name
yea I struggle with || hades as well, I think I encountered him two or three times now, the chambers just before battling him are kinda challenging due to the posion ||
Yo @misty fulcrum please spoiler tag the identity of ||Hades the final boss|| as that's spoilers in this channel 
Ohk
Sry
I think my problem was health
All my dd was gone and life was almost done
for the poison in styx, you gotta locate the healing fountains in each chamber and stay close so when you get poisoned you can immediately heal urself
Ah okay, thank you!
hey guys
hello
I wanted to do a hoarding blade run
but i never have the right hammer
is there a way to obtain it for sure at the start ? a seed or such
time to chain suicide then; thanks
np
What is generally considered the best upgrade for the spear? It's my favorite weapon so far and I'm definitely a lot better with it than with others
For Achilles and Zag aspect it’s Flurry Jab, Hades spear is a very different playstyle and can get into a special build with Exploding Launcher and Charged Skewer or more of an attack dash striking build with Quick Spin and Serrated point, a mix of the 4 hammers mentioned is also not a bad idea for example Quick Spin + Exploding Launcher etc.. For the hidden spear Charged Skewer gives the aspect so much that puts it ahead of the other hammer options, Charged Skewer + Breaching Skewer is an ideal combo, but spin hammers are also alright, when you go for a Special build with the hidden spear you lean a lot more into it unlike Hades aspect therefore the spin hammers are less useful in general.
well I kinda meant what aspect is the best, or is it all dependent on how the run goes?
The best aspect is the one you’re most comfortable with, however Hades Spear and Hidden spear are both tougher playstyles than Zag and Achilles, still doesn’t mean you should avoid them, just that you might find them bad when you first pick them up as they require practice
gotcha
||POG I beat the game finally, such a great ending!!!!||
CONGRATULATIONS
Ty!
First time clear is such a rush! And then you crave for more 😅
Region 4 ||How many encounters are in each wing of Styx? I could have sworn it was three small and one large for a total of four, but the duration of Charon items has me wondering if it's variable.||
Its 4 or 5, pretty sure its just rng
4 or 5 rooms per tunnel, yeah. It's indeed random.
About that. Is there a way to know ||in which tunnel the sack|| is gonna be bc I am always reluctant to buy Charon’s things from the well in case I am in the wrong one and need to do another one 😅
It's never in the first one.
After that, it's RNG. More than half the time in the second.
Last one is least likely.
It's never in the first one you go into
Not like, the first one from the left or something
I think I had it in the last one on my first time there. And usually in the second one yes 😅 I believe I had it in the first one once ngl was surprised by that
First one is impossible.
Must have been the second. Things can blend together when everything is new and dangerous.
Hmm. Maybe I did misrember but I could have sworn it was the first one 🤔 oh well. Doesn’t really matter right now. So it doesn’t really matter which reward I choose, then?
||You mean for Styx tunnels? If you are tight on time /speedrunning, miniboss doors will always be faster than normal ones, they can also be safer since its fewer but beefier enemies, or if you have a companion for example. If you dont care about speed, id look for hammers/second hermes boon, first if they're still available, those can be really good boosts, but depends on your build in the end, other than that id just take whatever you feel is most useful for your run, there isnt a particular way to choose rewards, if you want safety you can take hp, you can get more gold for a third hermes boon if offered at the Charon shop, you can take a boon miniboss because of its increased rarity, maybe you're looking for a certain duo/boon/legendary. With more experience you'll just pick intuitively without thinking too much.||
Thanks! Yeah I usually go for hp or gold for the boons or pick a God I want boons from. Not really smart enough for finding the special duo stuff yet though 😅
That's okay! Some duo boons are great, I recommend you check your Codex for Duo boons and their requirements, and just try a bunch of them, ones that sound strong and figure out which of them are actually gamechanging and which ones are side bonuses to not prioritize, you can also ask in #h1-builds-and-combat for specific builds including Duo boons 
Thanks! Well I usually pick whatever feels best at the time not really thinking strategy
If it's fun it's fun, good luck!
Oh yeah it’s fun! But I also want to progress 😅 might take a look at the other channels later. Have only been in here to keep me from being spoilered
Does the ||money bag that triggers Charron fight|| appear at random?
yeah
That ||fight|| is really fun
Its a 22% chance to appear in the midshop (it cannot appear in the shop before a boss fight)
Hello
hello
Hello!
hello
How Is Your Day Going?
Not Great Im Trying To Beat ||Hades|| For The First Time (ive attempted it about 5 times) and i cant beat it
final boss?
you should hide final bosses name
Sorry! didnt know
im new to discord its self, how do i hide stuff in messages
im back sorry
to beat final boss you should play safe, always kill the enemies he summons first, and learn the attack patterns for each ||phase||, also during your dash you have brief moment of invulnerability, so you should practice dodging with your dash
also for the ||laser attack|| you should hide behind the rocks
Okay well i will use that when i get back next time (i just died)
it just takes practice
okay
you should also focus on one weapon for now
im new to the game as in me playing it myself, ive watch alot of yt, but i just got my switch 2 days ago and this is my first game on it, but i understand the game it self, should i be in this channel?
"im new to the game" yes
Already asked this question but wanted to see a bit more feedback. What aspect do you use/recommend for Spear and why? I personally went with the Zag spear but I wanna try something more unique once I get more titan blood
I like hades spear... it's also underwhelming but it deal more damage which is nice
I use the spin more than the special so that's my reasoning
I like the aspect of Achilles. I would say it's the more defensive style. Instead of having to apply a debuff directly to the enemies and and then attack them aggressively to get the most out of it, you apply the damage boost to yourself (with 100 % success) and it works on whoever you hit next.
The spear rush is also a really useful way to get out of danger, especially since you will rush to your spear no matter how far you run from it.
GY spear is life
That one's a secret though
Does achilles spear still allow for a ranged playstyle or do you have to be more up close and personal with it
all spear aspects allow for a more ranged play style
which is why alot of people don't like it
Gotcha lol
imagine having to stay close to your enemies to kill them
laughs in hidden spear charged skewer
bow moment
hidden spear moment
Fists moment
i dont know if this is against the rules if so ill delete it but would anyone have a spare key for this game. With all the hype i hear i really wanna try the game but dont have the money.
We ask that people don't look for game keys here. Steam does have a 2 hour (play time) refund policy if you want to try out the game before committing to the purchase
How will I know when I have received a favor from a character to get the companion
And how do I get it
you have to unlock certain characters hearts
after that you have to give them ||ambrosia||
you will know when you unlock the heart because it shows you on the top of the screen
I have already given dusa the nectar until the one with the lock on it and have tried giving her ambrosia and I cant
How do I do that
Oh I never bought those because I thought they were just useless decorations
And fix the mess that Cerberus made
I already did that
Good
They mostly are but the gem:key conversion is pretty bad at the broker so you may as well decorate
500 gems for a nectar is painful and barely worth considering
That greedy turd
Also iirc you don't need to buy all the lounge stuff. Just get a good few gems and get a whole load of lounge things in one go, that's how I did it.
Decided to go with Achilles spear and though I'm not loving it so far it's a lot more interesting than the regular spear. I did try a Nemesis run and it was super fun
what would you guys say the best god aid is?
It's hard to go bad with Aid. They're all good.
It generally depends on what god you're going for
I think pos/ath/ares are great because they render you invulnerable, making for a great panic button
And a full gauge can take almost an entire segment off of Redacted
Other ones have their uses too ofc. zeus/dio/dem just provide decent damage and Priv Status if you don't have the curses for it otherwise
personally not a fan of zeus because you need to be up close and it's too flashy to focus which is a recipe to get bonked
but I think it has the best damage of the three
I feel like Dio has an even shorter range than Zeus
I imagine it's similar coding wise but I have nothing to back that up
artemis aid is just a nuke but does nothing when not on full gauge really
and then aphrodite's uh, exists
I don't have a lot of experience with charm
Against normal encounters it's ok, but against bosses only the greater call exists
Invulnerable calls are great on bosses because it just skips phases
You generally never use Aphro's call for charm because normal enemies tend to die too quickly. Unless it's a panic button.
The greater call can make you skip a phase of a boss except redacted
Hydra heads? Aid. Theseus call? Aid. Redacted flames? Aid.
aid works best on redacted's second half bc of the boss invisibility mechanics
made me miss companions in the past even
meanie
(if going for time, you probably want to aid redacted's first half, just to lower the amount of time lost on invisibility, but this is the new player chat)
thanks guys, im fighting "Redacted" and the second phase screws me so bad, this might help
No worries! They can catch you off guard the first time. But, at least in my opinion, the first half ends up being harder than the second one.
its my 5th time now but thank you, i got the game yesterday and have being loving it
Oh damn
I mean, making it to Redacted in two days is amazing in the first place.
Best of luck!
Tip: acorn
also are you using dd or sd
i lost but im back up to ||theseus|| this fight sucks
are you using death defiance or stubborn defiance?
i run athena's to start to try and get dash then run ||hypnos|| for money and then i use ||skelly|| but i will try acorn
acorn is better than skelly most likely
what does acorn do again?
if what your getting hit by is the spin attacks, acorn is better
it lets you take 3/4/5 hits at the start of every boss without taking dammage
so its good when your getting hit by a really high dammage attack
(like spin)
i can dodge the spins okay and phase 1 is decent for me but when i get to the second phase with the beams and everything i get clapped
oh beams are your problem
ya they really dont like me
hide behind rock
and i use fists so its tough
or do the super secret strat that im not conna tell you about
ok.
is the secret strat ||going right up to him inside of where the beams come from and just combo?||
yeah
ya i knew that
i watched a ton of youtube before i got the game and played on my cousins about a month or 2 ago
athena spam is also nice
ya with ||hermes|| extra dashes that you can get you can just dash constantly
my fastest and most successful clear i was running aspect of zues with merciful end, curse of agony, and divine flourish
and i had hunting blades
have you cleared yet?
ya ive gotten to "Redacted" 5 times now but never beaten it, i just got the game yesterday so
ii havent really tried out the other weapons as much, ive gotten to "Redacted" once or twice with shield but it was scuffed
do you use uppercut a lot when running fists?
a bit
i don't remember the name but i use the version that ||pulls enemies toward you when you uppercut||
Talos
“Fists aren’t that good” lol. Someone isn’t good at playing Fists.
Need to find your build. Fists are heavy dmg if played correctly, need a lot of practice on dash dodging though
Eh the problem is that people are presenting this as facts in a new player room.
You can dislike them and be bad at them. But don’t try to tell people things like you know wtf you’re talking about
fists deal big damage but you have to stand next to enemies to do it, that's the basic tradeoff
they're balanced compared to the other weapons
How do I ||get hades to grant me the authority to use battie companion against him||
Also how do you cover up the words to prevent spoilers on phone
Same as you do on PC
I dont know how to do it on pc
Is there a specific way to be able ||to give Meg nectar?|| I haven't been able to do so yet. Same with ||Thanatos||
after a while they will ||show up at the lounge||
if you find yourself unable to give a gift, check the codex to see if there's a "locked heart" symbol. if there's that, then you need to do a favor for them
usually the favor will be obvious, sometimes it isnt
And it will come down to what dialogue you get when
Just gotta keep grinding out those runs
Having trouble with the ||Theseus and Asterius fight|| Any recommendations? ||I've faced them 3 times and have managed to beat Asterius twice but Theseus gets me with his sniping attack or his help from the Gods||
||Focus on Asterius first as you have done, kill him before Theseus asks for help. Be sure to have a high dmg call as well (Artemis, Zeus, Aphro). Save your call for the Theseus second half. Be sure to always find cover from the spear (hits twice)||
It's ok to not have beat them after 3 tries. They represent a big step up in challenge compared to previous bosses
||dodging that spear throw is a necessary skill for winning. There are visual and audio cues for the attack, and you will be consistently dodging it soon enough||
You basically have to get good at ||multitasking. The marker on you before Theseus throws the spear changes color when it's about to hit, you have to be able to keep an eye on it while fighting Asterius||
Once you can do that consistently it becomes much easier
From what you said, I am assuming it is ||Theseus second phase|| that is giving you troubles. My suggestion is to not be too afraid of the God aid, the circles are quite easy to dodge despite their overwhelming appearance. I would just stick close to him when he does that and wail on him. This is true for almost every aid you will encounter. Just dash back and forth around Theseus.
Dash strike is your friend, learn to use it if you haven't already.
that fight alone is what truly taught me how to time the dash for the I-frame and using foes attacks against them in some way. like making asterius charge you and dash through him so he slams into the wall for free hits. this concept made me think about other fights and what can be used to my advantage with what the boss does. this applied very well when i did ||extreme measures x4 to help reduce the clutter of pots on the field||
honestly this game does so very well for the genre with how it truly makes things okay that you died here or there. all because you still progressed not just by learning mechanics, but by actually having some story, unique dialog relating to what happened by some characters relating to your run and the fact you get to go about it again, stronger and different dialogue relating to where you died.
loved that whenever you kill what killed you in the previous run zag'man comments about it
Dash in a circle around the arena and when behind pillars try to dash though || Asterius || and hit him from behind for extra damage if that's your mirror upgrade if not then keep going in circles and you'll be fine
Second half idk how to do easy I just go not in the death areas and hit him while he is summoning them since he has no shield then also save || call || and use it while || he is floating and summoning aid ||
Hi, guys! Glad to be a part of Hades community!
I'm new to the game, and I have a small question about the aspects. Unfortunately, I didn't find the correct info on the web.
So, In order to unlock the Aspect of Guan Yu, do I need to invest 5 Titan Blood in the Spear, or do I have to invest it in each other weapon?
I have invested it in the Spear, purchased the table with the prophecies, and even won the final boss one time, but Achilles still doesn't want to give me the needed dialogue (I tried like 10 times already).
Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Or I just have to keep talking to Achilles?
you have to ||unlock 5 different aspects of different weapons, not invest 5 blood in the spear||. also, the fight against ||hades|| is a spoiler in this channel! please spoiler tag it accordingly 
Thank you!
And, I'm sorry for the spoiler, I didn't think about that 😦
You can still edit your message
I did 🙂
I haven't run into athena in like 15 runs? anyone know why?
Literally just RNG
bruhhhhhhhhhh getting unlucky xD
There's nothing that you can do in the game to qualify or disqualify gods from showing up besides taking their keepsake
So yeah, you're just unlucky in that regard
welp just gotta make sure I have some nectar when I see her next
People always show up the least when you actually want to give them something
just like real life...
lmao
If you just want her to show up so you can give her nectar, just slap on her keepsake at the start of the run
Unless you mean you don't have her keepsake and that's why you want to gift her in the first place
yep... the latter 😦
is there a reason we ||give necter thing to gods other than for lore??||
Nope
Once you give an NPC their first nectar, every following nectar is just to advance your relationship with them
wait, after u give first? so first time what happens?
You get their keepsake
Each keepsake gives you a unique benefit, yeah
ive got bout 5 i think
got another doubt
||what is companions?? dont tell if its easy to find||
You generally want to save up your nectar to make sure you have enough to gift each NPC the first time you meet them so you can get all the keepsakes
And then you can start giving more to whoever you want afterwards
oh
@wraith hinge
Relatively endgame content: ||Companions are a special kind of keepsake that you can equip in addition to a normal keepsake, but only 6 NPCs have them||
i used most of mine on ||chaos|| thinking i'll get a boon boost or some reward lol
ohhhhhhh cool
||Yeah, you won't get them until very late in your save's lifecycle, so don't worry about them now||
ohk
||is it the ppl who give us those rewards in btw areas......... like the muse of orpheus||
Relatively endgame content: ||I don't want to spoil who gives them to you specifically because it's fun to find out! If you really want to know, they're all on the wiki. I will say though that no, Eurydice doesn't give you one||
ohk
i dont want to be spoiled as well
i just wanted to know
if its "hardcore gamer only" stuff
Nope, everyone will come across them naturally, ||so long as they play a few levels of heat||
Nothing hardcore gamer about it
||heat?? is it survive for x seconds thing??||
Sorry, you might not have played enough to know what ||heat|| is, in which case, don't worry about it! You'll find out soon enough
It's not related to the Tartarus survival rooms though
hey anyone remember me
yes
What is the best ||companion||
||companions strongest to weakest: meg, bouldy, than, achilles, dusa, skelly||
||some people will also say that than is better than bouldy||
I unlocked meg's already but that is the only one I have
thats probably the only one you are going to need
is it possible to degrade ur weapons and get titans blood back so you can just focus on one weapon you wanna level up?
no
thanks to everyone for the tips. I was able to ||beat Theseus after being patient and more aware of his spear attack. Sadly I died in Styx but I was able to beat some rooms. Achilles spear + Poseidon Cast was a nasty combo||
nice
I have a hypothetical question
what is it?
so say I need to unlock more aspects but I have already used all of my weapons for titan's blood, is there a way to reset the boss battles?
later in the game there will be more opportunities to get blood from bosses
another thing
can I still get titans blood from the furies with an aspect of a weapon I've already used?
later in the game
also, it doesnt matter which aspect you use, it just boils down to which weapon you use
Is it worth trading Ambrosia for Titan Blood?
Absolutely. Stronger weapons will help you get more Ambrosia and Titan Blood.
And you can trade up Nectar for Ambrosia should you need any.
By the time you need a lot of Ambrosia, there's little to nothing to do with Nectar, anyway.
I should clarify if it is needed. I still haven't done a full run so I cannot do any ||heat-related things||
so is Ambrosia only for giving to NPCs?
There's another mechanic that costs ambrosia but it's much later
What are the best daedalus hammer upgrades on every weapon
So I know what to choose when I see them
Depends a lot on your build
That's 24 aspects you're asking about, and it can depend on your build. 
What is generally good for any circumstance
If your strategy depends on doing a lot of spin attack, pick spin hammers
All a hammer does is make a build more specific
There are a few bad hammers...
Hmmm. For the base weapons...
Stygius: Double Edge
Varatha: Flurry Jab
Aegis: Charged Shot
Coronacht: Twin Shot or Triple Shot
Malphon: Breaching Cross
Exagryph: Rocket Bomb
Is the one for sword that reduces health but heals on hit good
These would be the number 1 hammers you would look for in a speedrun. They're optimal for DPS.
And DPS in Hades often trumps anything else because when everything is dead, you're not taking damage.
But other hammers can be easier when you're still figuring out things and learning enemy behavior and all that.
Try out everything and see what you like best, what works for you, and if anything isn't working out, try to think of ways you could make it work or ask for help. 
Health on hit is good generally, but reducing max health is scary so only take it if you're hitting a lot
Cursed Slash has carried a lot of early wins for a lot of players, from what I've seen.
Free healing is huge if you often get hit and speed is not a concern.
hey everyone

Been able to get to ||Hades|| twice already with the spear and sword. Pretty proud of myself especially since the sword run was mostly just gold farm lol. Just wondering, would it be better to upgrade the spear since I feel I'm the best with it or get a new shield aspect?
I am also strong with the spear and sword but i personally really like the shield aspects. I did not really play with the base level shield but then I unlocked zeus's shield aspect and found that I really enjoyed playing with it. I would give the shield aspects a try. @tacit tangle
what i like about each shield aspect is that they all play differently in some way
i agree they all feel completely different from one another in game play
I don’t think it’s actually possible to lose a run with Zeus shield lol
if you do want to upgrade the spear, id recommend achilles
its probably the best spear, very versatile
hidden spear is also so much better at max but i'm assuming they haven't unlocked it yet
ive been grinding all night and my brain is dead from fighting ||Hades|| like 20 times and everytime getting screwed on the second phase
Anything in particular you find hard about redacted?
the entire second phase
it just screws with my head idk why
it probably has something to do with it being 4AM and me having no sleep but whatever
My first piece of advice is go to bed
It certainly is different than first phase, since he's always on the offensive. My general advice is to just learn his patterns
I have this condition called being European
lmao
I suffer from the same condition
It’s a blessing actually
i suffer from being so sad about life that i cant sleep so i play a mindless rouge like/lite game
But yes. Regarding the second phase. Dash like a lot and hide behind the pillars. If you have the aid of a God. Use it. Try to get behind him and attack him from behind. I also use the cast a lot. Especially if I have the Artemis ||or Demeter|| boon on it
id rather suffer from the tough European syndrom
okay i will try that out
i have ||demeter|| cast rn
I really like that one bc it does a lot of damage from a distance
If he does the ||lava beams|| either try to outrun them or make sure you are near a pillar when it’s gonna come
So you can simply duck behind them
or i could do the strat where i get right on top of him and just pumble him
Yeah try stuff out. That way you learn what works best for you and your weapon
which should I choose? Legendary unhealthy fixation or curse of longing?
what is your build like right now?
sorry I misclicked bruh
I got the legendary one
and it brought a new question
does the charm curse affect bosses?
yes

I was thinking of unlocking the zeus shield but the base damage on the spin is only 8 which doesn't seem super helpful
just use zeus special since it has its own damage
Like, the zeus boon for special attack?
yeah
Ah gotcha
just level it up a couple times
get jolted
and zeus legendary
makes up for the 8 damage
Gotcha
and also double strike
Am new to Hades and I love this game sm. Any helpful tips or tricks?
Don't start on Hell Mode
Nah. I found God Mode and enabled that real quick
If you can play without it, I highly recommend you do
learn attack patterns, practice dodging with your dash, learn which gods mix will with other gods, always play on the safer side, and since you are a new player i suggest you unlock all weapons, pick your favorite, and stick with that until you escape for the first time
Are any bosses giving you trouble yet @fossil stratus ?
I've found that Varatha is my main weapon of choice. She's lovely.
I've beaten Meg numerous times.
Got up to the Hydra a handful and somehow never made it to the next boss
also i recommend getting death defiances, a second dash, backstab damage, and an extra cast from your mirror
i you should have all of those unlocked
I've maxed out everything in the mirror
you just have to spend the darkness to get them
The best piece of very general advice I have for a new player is try to go for Olympian calls and don't forget to actually use them if you get them
oh damn everything?
The mirror gets bigger
😂 I'm further along than I've lead to believe. Sorry
I saw! I'm collecting more keys to unlock the rest
Poop. I was gonna drop a picture but I can't. I do have the first tier unlocked and maxed. I also have 9 keepsakes as whale
Never casted until I figured out how helpful it was.
Yuuuus. I've noticed it helps greatly. I guess it comes down to patterns and dashing.
Finally i beat that god awful fight against "Redacted"
that fight made me want to commit die god dam
oh my i remember when i first won that fight i was so happy
i died so many times to it
i stayed up all goddamn night and my brain is in pain but i did that horrible fight
I’m 31 runs in and managed to get to Redacted each night for the last 3 but no dice so far
Getting to redacted consistently is a good sign
ive gotten to him like 25 times and just managed to beat him like an hour or 2 ago
Since the last exchange in here I managed to defeat the ||Bull of Minos|| and died in the next chamber 🙃
I think so too! The progress is happening!
Great Job, just keep on trying and test out different weapons and aspects
I figured out that I can upgrade my weapon with Skelly. That was fairly helpful 😂
lol i bet
dw i died to redacted like 10 times in a row
Oh man, the first time I beat redacted, I was on my last death defiance with only 14 hp left. Athena Call saved my life there
legit started 6 hrs ago and i beat ||meg|| and died, do i have to beat her again?
Yes
It'll become much easier over time don't worry
aw french dude
i barely lived last time, and it didnt take 6 hrs to beat her i mean like i took a break lmao
but thank you anyway
Just learn her patterns and be more confident in yourself. You'll get stronger over time through mirror upgrades and the like so don't worry too much
Try and do an actual run attempt with each weapon to get a feel for them. Don't just try them out in the courtyard
gotcha, yeah I'll run with the bow and shield since I beat her with the sword
and I naturally use the spear
but should I get the 5th weapon or the 2nd stage mirror upgrades
I cant decide
The 5th weapon is a close range weapon so if you don't like the idea of it then maybe mirror upgrades. I personally got all the weapons then did mirror upgrades but it took a while
for ||aspect of achilles|| spear, the effect doesnt affect dash-strike, right?
it does I believe
What do you need to unlock Skelly’s keepsake?
Apologies, I meant the summon thing
give many nectars, and then complete skelly's favor
guys help, i cant connect hades to my controller. controller still works well with other game
i think that goes in #h1-tech-support
there may also be something related to that in #h1-tech-fixes but i've never bothered to check it out
okay. thanks mate
Well I beat ||Theseus and Minos|| then proceeded to get yeeted back home by Redacted 😪 so close
What keepsake are you using? Eurydice's Evergreen Acorn helps with the Redacted fight, I find.
At first I use the Feather duster to collect things along the way. Next stop I'll switch it to Spiked Collar and I think I'll change it to Eurydice's before Redacted's fight.
I switch between Spiked and others to try them out. Aside from the Boon dropping ones.
I would personally recommend you have a certain build in mind and go for something like
God > God > Acorn/Tooth > Acorn
I will definately try this next run
My hades just finishing installing lets go
if you have any questions please ask them here
do i go through the currency door or the zues door
whatever you want
you are new to the game so you have to learn
but i would recommend the currency door
i feel to close up with sword im going to get the bow since im back home
i made it to a boss but died i keep taking lots of damage to the fat blobs
Make sure to learn all of the attack patterns of the enemies
what is the best weapon some glove just got added
the best weapon is the one you are the most comfortable with
for now you should just buy all weapons, play with them, and then play with the one you are most comfortable with until you escape for the first time
im about to fight the floor 2 boss
good luck
i beat it but it took my death defy
what do i use the titans blood and diamond for?
titan blood is gonna be useful once you unlock all weapons
and diamonds are used for work orders
i forgot how to unlock work orders though
been a while
Dang that floor 3 boss wasnt even a chance
its ok, those bosses hold all new players back, and its pretty impressive that you already made it to them
i got really stacked on boons that run and im starting to understand the spear more
Yep. Took me five attempts just to beat them my first time around iirc.
My advice would be to go for ||Asterius (the bull)|| first before ||Theseus reaches 50% health||, he does something special at that point that you don't want the added hassle of ||a bull rushing around|| for.
ok that makes sense i just got the mirror upgrade so now i have 2 casts now i need keys for weapons
make sure to have a cast in armored enemies and bosses at all times
ok i have all weapons now so what do i do with titans blood
finish a run first
when you come back something will happen
how do i fill my god gauge
take damage or deal damage
taking damage will fill your god gauge faster
and also there are boons to increase the amount of stuff for your god gauge
oh crap i just found the trade place and i think i accidentally used my titans blood
rip
can i get more if i beat meg again
with a different weapon
you can only get 1 blood from meg with each weapon, so 6 blood total from meg
so like i can try the rifle
but you can get some more blood with the trade guy
yeah
if you never killed meg with the rifle then you will get more blood from her
i didnt se that option
you have to kill the third boss to get that option
the thing you get from third boss can be traded for blood
Currently at the ||Styx Temple|| with 3 ||death defiances|| I already got rid of ||Cerberus|| and I'm about to fight ||Hades|| since I'm probably not gonna do more rooms. Any tips for ||second phase|| I've tried the fight 3 times already
I should clarify. I'm running ||Aspect of Nemesis|| with Aphrodite and Artemis boons for my dash strikes + special combo
|| Hide behind the pillars when he does his laser attack and keep an eye out for the green pots ||
lmao i jsut did something dumb
so i have been playing this game called noita
and in noita you can wash of poison with water
and my water is on the q key
so when i got poisioned in styx
i instinctively pressed q
@tacit tangle what weapon are you using ?
So I've escaped twice, but I don't know what I should be directing by focus toward. There's a lot of information - so many newbie guides focus on getting out the first time, but now all the ||Pact of Punishment|| stuff feels excessive since I haven't even escaped with every weapon. Some people say to farm, some people say to learn which god offers which kinds of abilities so I can create builds, some say just focus on relationships.
ok so i really like spear and i have the first and second upgrade but the last one i dont know how to unlock?
I mean its really difficult to put a certain way to play the game, there is a lot of stuff you can do, it comes down to whatever is most fun for you and seems right, for me personally I just started uping the ||heat slowly 1 by 1, for more bounties so I can try different aspects because that was fun for me ||, eventually I looked back at farming darkness to finish some mirror things that I wanted to try, and building relationships and getting new dialogue came naturally through progression, for builds I mostly learned from watching other people play
You can check the pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion
I mean that ||upping the heat|| seems like too much already but it's what everything says to do and it seems like the only path forward even though I still have 4 other weapons that I haven't escaped with and am unable to. I'm not sure where to direct my focus to improve so I can actually do that. I don't know how to ||get more titans blood to level and unlock the other aspects since I'm terrible with the anything other the fists||
Have you tried certain builds that work well with those weapons? Most builds wont carry a run fully but just having a general idea about what to aim for should set you on the right track to win runs with each weapon, with some practice, ||the first few heat points wont feel like any difference at all depending on what you choose ofc, when it starts getting a little high you'll just be aware of what you're doing and therefore you wont have a lot of issues or atleast you'll have a clear reasoning behind why you lost certain runs, you can on the other hand just keep playing fists over and over, a lot of people enjoy something over the others, and push it in heat way higher than other weapon, spreading your runs over different weapons is slower in terms of heat pushing but you get a better idea of each of the aspects/weapons and the way to play them, since you'd have more experience with them.||
Yeah, certain weapons are too difficult for me and I can't clear certain bosses like ||Asterius and Thesius or even Lernie, whereas I can take care of them with other weapons no problem. This is without using the Pact of Punishment at all though. I still can claim the initial Hades bounty four more times without adding heat. I got through it on Aspect of Nemesis using a lot of Artemis boons, and Aspect of Talos with a lot of Poseidon and Zeus boons including their duo for a yoyo thing||
^Ranged is hard. This is why I struggled playing League. They kept telling me to stay back to kill creeps and I kept charging in trying to smash things.
Titan blood
You just need a lot of it
Start upgrading
Yea I was the exact opposite lol, I was doing much better with Ranged weapons at first, now its all somewhat similar except I have a lot more clears on Bow, the combos you mentioned sound solid, Nemesis with Deadly Strike and Artemis' Dash is strong, I dont have much experience with Talos but cant go wrong with Zeus on fast hitting weapons with something like Tidal dash so yea sounds solid, you can have a read through Pengy's thoughts for each aspect, it mentions some of the popular ways to build them, keep in mind it talks about the hidden aspects aswell so it has some spoilers there.
Try zag bow with twin shot and point blank. The main thing you want is twin shot, if you can't get point blank the try getting perfect shot or flurry shot. Twin shot makes the range of the bow shorter so you are basically playing a melee weapon that hits pretty hard
And also you can try zag rail with spread fire, basically the same thing as zag bow
So far I only have ||guan yu in terms of the hidden aspects|| i can't remember what i need to unlock the next one
I wonder if my weapon preference would change if I switched to PC
Check the pinned in #h1-story-discussion for the other || hidden aspects ||
that depends on the one answering you
house of hades
ok
not counting mini bosses
i once got a ablitily that healed me every hit i got it was really op
and what is the best like artifact thingy you can get
cursed slash/draining cutter?
keepsake?
yes
yes
depends on what you're after
to win
for end boss acorn or tooth can be great - broken spearpoint too
ok
some are whole run keepsakes as once you take them off you lose the effects
and some are better for start of the run
we don't discuss that here
I got this game yesterday
some are good to use pr region like the god ones
claw weapon?
the guantlet
aah
it is next to the bow


