if you can grind 20 heats all complete
#h1-discussion
novel wasp
they pay off themselves
from 0 (basically you havent start heat) to 20, you have 21*2 titanblood
and i calculated to unlock all aspects, all level 5, you need 51 to unlock all in one weapon
do note that starting heat 10+ you kinda exhausted a lot of things and darkness at that rate could be seen redundant and can be used to trade stuffs for free, heck gemstones can be hella free as well
and you can always get more if you run into charon at styx to get the titanblood
leaden turtle
do people do low heat runs like that just to get to charon and buy the blood/diamond/ambrosia?
novel wasp
yes
||there are a certain quest that requires a large sum of darkness, i actually just go to grind some at low heat||
well
you cant get ambrosia at charon
leaden turtle
i'm just trying to get the best non-hidden aspects for each weapon rn, then farm up the others more easily using them
novel wasp
also you cant get the item you already obtained that run
for example if you die halfway, and restarted, you cant get more titan blood fighting sisters, same rule applies for every single level of heat
and do note in heat runs you can only progress one level of heat at one time, so you cannot say "oh im doing 5 heat maybe I can get 5 titanblood in a row" when you start out
leaden turtle
ye but you aren't getting tb from the sisters if you're doing low heat can you? then why would it not show up at charon?
feel like i'm misunderstanding something
novel wasp
yeah if you finished the run it will not show up again
leaden turtle
also you cant get the item you already obtained that run i just mean this part
novel wasp
oh what i mean is say you finished a run and died at theseus for example
you beat furies and get titanblood, you beat hydra and got the diamond
leaden turtle
you can do it again?!!
novel wasp
and if you retry again, you notice you are rewarded with darkness when facing them
instead of their respective reward
only until you start a new heat level you can then get the reward again
leaden turtle
but what happens when you get diamond/tb during your run, there's a different item at charon?
novel wasp
yes charon at styx
didnt he sell more items than usual?
he will always sell 1 of these 2 things at the price of 1000 obol
leaden turtle
ok, so you were just talking about the boss rewards, you didn't mean it had anything to do with charon
novel wasp
yeyeyeye
leaden turtle
was just confused cos you were talking about charon just before
novel wasp
but im mentioning that because that is the only way guaranteed
that you can get titanblood or diamond in a run otherwise you could not
its super easy too, consider my playstyle i dont run into charon very often
i saved up tons of coins also remember to equip hypno's purse
boom, capitalism
i will never go to charon in any circumstances unless its end room
which if its that one path then its no chocie
i mean, a boon/pom for free vs you have to spend coins to get items
come on
leaden turtle
idk i've only just started doing heat runs, but with more rolls for obol/maxed aspects/purse/doing troves it doesn't seem too hard
leaden turtle
idk what that means
leaden turtle
oh right
novel wasp
some might say minmaxing is worse than optimizing
cause some people consider minmaxing as in
exploiting the game system;s weakness and stuff to make yourself favorable
but
i dont really care
leaden turtle
i'm just trying to save myself time getting the aspects if i can
without looking super deeply into numbers or like routes of quest/reward progression or w/e
novel wasp
i know its pretty exciting to get the aspects
narrow hemlock
that's too much work, i throw caution to the wind and pick boons at a whim and go where the chaos leads me, strategy who??
(athena shaking her head in the distance)
novel wasp
@narrow hemlock lmao isnt it ironic
that athena has the most braindead mechanic
as a goddess of wisdom and strategy
leaden turtle
braindead is bigbrain
novel wasp
as in you dont really need to maximize it to get the most powerful out of it
narrow hemlock
i wouldn't really call it brain dead. the theming is fair, she's a safe option, clean. meanwhile ares is unpredictable, which is also fair theming
novel wasp
all the power is already in that one single boon
most gods require some level of complementary for it to get better
brisk trail
i mean it's pretty wise of her to realize Zag will need good defense to escape
narrow hemlock
i don't really look at it in terms of gameplay because the gameplay isn't as important to me, i look at it in regards to how the theme fits into the character as a whole
novel wasp
but athena already has like the strongest initial power
I know it fits theme wise but when you think about it
because of her simplicity and strong initial power
thats why she has a place in the high heat meta
man i miss artemis being meta
sadge
i mean artemis was kinda broken
brisk trail
did they nerf artemis or something?
novel wasp
but i feel like her boons feels so neutered compared to pre-nighty night
oh you are new player
ok you need a history lesson
welcome to 2020 AD
where we talk about how artemis breaks this game into 3 pieces
manic moat
you dont really have to minmax
wAs ThAt A dNd RefeReNce
brisk trail
sadly even tho I backed the game the first week i only played up to the hydra a few times then didn't touch the game at all until again until last week so i didn't experince all the changes
manic moat
where we talk about how artemis breaks this game into 3 pieces
yes
brisk trail
so im technically not a new player, just didn't play very much throughout the whole testing branch period
brisk trail
i wish that i played more during the early access so i could have seen how it evolved and changed more but also kinda glad I held off so when I finally played again all the new content was fresh af for my mind
novel wasp
basically
artemis was so broken
i think SSG dk how to maintain her in a way like this
so they basically split her power
they first stated they werent interested in creating every single god duo possible but here we are
all god duo is possible now
brisk trail
i didn't know that either
novel wasp
and dual shot was mega broken cause it could be upgraded but it was powershifted into possy ( who was for a while seen as kinda weak themselves)
duos cant be upgraded
so dual shot stays the same damage
and hunting baes, Hunting Baes is strong because Ares has a long af beyblade
but it deals crap damage, so when you combine aimlock onto it
it deals signficant damage
but they mitigate this by making Ares beyblade much shorter and now does more damage, in turn this buffs Ares beyblade cast by making it viable on its own
to prevent hunting bae situation of press m2 and win
brisk trail
funny they would make a change to prevent that when theres builds that basically play the game for you still
novel wasp
and Fully Loaded instead of giving 3 kidneystones it now gives 2 instead
to kinda just wrist slap some 6 kidneystone builds too easily
brisk trail
my last hades kill was basically just bullrush beowulf with all casts loaded onto shield then let my casts sit by hades because I had lightning rod
novel wasp
oh yeah at least they made lightning rod not worthless
brisk trail
so everytime he did the energy blast move he was just taking damage lol
novel wasp
lightning rod was a meme duo
brisk trail
most of the fight I was just hiding behind pillars while lightning rod did all the work
novel wasp
they buffed it before 1.0 to make the range larger
brisk trail
except for the burst damage from bullrush ofc
novel wasp
to be fair they can always rework it into shocks whoever got lodged to make it more proactive instead of this anti-cast play
but i digress
brisk trail
also my first time using aspect of lucifer
it felt like the game was playing itself
just spam special and cast
brisk trail
shoot the cast for fun but i would survived without ever using main attack if i wanted
novel wasp
oh yeah they also nerfed arctic blast sadge
because aspect of chiron with arctic blast was pure
🧀
brisk trail
Chiron is one of my fave for sure
brisk trail
and it has a really nice rhythm to it that helps me dodge attacks for some reason
like the shoot to lock on then special until lock on wears off it helps me keep me in a good flow
some weapons feel so just all over the place I die from not being able to find a decent flow
novel wasp
i find it okay it just feels boring cause all i did was holding one button
and the game just plays itself
its haha funny the first time but after 40-50 runs seeing this makes me bored
and this is why introducing
aspect of cybertruck
brisk trail
lolwat
novel wasp
i mean aspect of arthur
its aspect of truck kun and the crit damage with it will isekai anyone
artememes slaps mega hard
brisk trail
actually the most annoying runs to me are when I have a decent build going, then I pick a boon i'm skeptical about "because it might be okay" ruins my entire flow and i die like the next chamber
novel wasp
huh?
how though
no boons i felt like could ruin runs they are just additive to what you can do already
brisk trail
like with beowulf I was like oh yee curse of drowning would be great an even stronger AOE at the end of my bullrush
but instead its delayed and worse than having an instant AOE cast
and then the rest of the run just feels off cause what was working now has a delay on it and just not ideal at all
like ive killed hades with curse of drowning and enjoy that duo
but for beowulf its def a downgrade
novel wasp
i mean hey more damage
brisk trail
overall
ionic flume
Hera Bow + Ice Wine is similar right, you shoot them and then there's a delay
also hi new here!
novel wasp
Hera Ice Wine basically just kind of remove what improves c4 in the first place
but hey it aint gonna stop me from attaching a c4 to my arrow
yes i call dionysus cast c4 sue me
brisk trail
Dionysus cast is my fave cast for sure
humble lotus
I just lost 2 death defies and most of my health in the opening room of a run
novel wasp
how
humble lotus
I left the game unpaused for like half an hour
Because i forgot about it
And the 1 enemy in that room did that
novel wasp
the mobs: hes just standing there, menacingly
humble lotus
So question
For the 10 escapes
Do i have to do them all with different weapons/different heat?
novel wasp
nuh
keen totem
(please let me know if this is the right place to share this, I'm not so sure)
weary gulch
How high of a heresy would be to put my own music while i play lol some people take it very seriously it's not even funny
brisk trail
Glad im watching this speedrunning guide even tho i don't plan to speed run.
Good info
Whats the best way to grind titan blood
narrow hemlock
They're posted in #announcements
hazy swan
not sure where to put this, but anyways i wanted to ask if hades is able to run without the 1gb vram requirement? i only have 128mb of vram and i saw a reddit thread that one person replied to saying it ran fine with their 128mb, but i just wanted to make sure that was the case.
vram only stores graphics elements of the game to use quickly later if im correct, so as long as it only results in longer load times, im fine with that. pls lemme know if 128mb is enough!!
lyric kraken
Hello everyone
hazy swan
heya! uhh if you own the game and have the same specs in terms of vram as i do would u mind telling me if its fine to run hades?
lyric kraken
I’m sorry but I play hades on switch so I don’t know what specs are needed
hazy swan
no prob! also nice joseph pfp
lyric kraken
Yes joseph is good
sacred mural
hello everyone 
new here!
tried to beat Hades today, so close, but still failed, so i'm having sunday evening wine instead 
keen totem
They're posted in <#456894163292520448>
Thank you, just deleted it from here :3
hazy swan
hello everyone <a:BongoWave:590868350587109389> new here!
tried to beat Hades to...
hi!! do you know if hades can run properly with 128mb of vram by any chance?
lyric kraken
I’ve not beat the game yet, best I’ve get it to the minotaur and other guy fight, had for roughly 3 days and played for 2
sacred mural
i honestly don't know, sorry! :< check minimal requirements?
hazy swan
minimal requirements say 1gb of vram :/
sacred mural
yeah it sounds like you need to up your hardware! :<
hazy swan
although one person said in a reddit thread that 128mb works fine for them? so im not 100% sure
maybe :(
sacred mural
give it a try! i'd buy it in any case for the Future
hazy swan
yeah!! its just it was on sale right now so i wanted to try it because my friends LOVED it
sacred mural
it's so so good! i wasn't sure i'll like it, but here we are
undone moat
who doesn't 😋
lyric kraken
I’ve been playing for a few days, didn’t think I’d like it much but you know how that goes
hazy swan
YEAH i heard the writing was really really good, the gameplay was awesome, and overall just a great game to sink hours upon hours into
the art is so good...
undone moat
I've lost sleep over it ngl
lyric kraken
I just like being able to hack and slash, my type of game
sacred mural
yeah for sure 😁 i like dropping in when i have time to play and then just do other things
it's pretty chill
yes, me too!
lyric kraken
Dashing around all over the place
sacred mural
yeess
half zephyr
Plus the Music
lyric kraken
Sword is my favourite weapon so far
half zephyr
Soundtrack is out of this world
sacred mural
and all the art 
lyric kraken
Athena boon first boon pog
undone moat
pog dash
past arch
My favourite song in Hades is exactly one portion of The King And The Bull
lyric kraken
Hmm do I take the dash or the strike
past arch
The one Darren wrote the entire song around ❤️
half zephyr
Dash
sacred mural
Athena dash 
past arch
dash !
half zephyr
Athena dash always
lyric kraken
Aight
past arch
strike is okay but dash is the most powerful
half zephyr
It’s so OP
past arch
in terms of defense
sacred mural
and it has deflect
lyric kraken
How good is the spear? I don’t have it unlocked yet
half zephyr
Especially if you make it to ||Asphodel|| with the ||witches||
Depends on who you ask
lyric kraken
Not gonna open that just in case
sacred mural
i think all weapons really depend on you some of my friends like one thing, i like another
it's all about what builds you're making each run, too
lyric kraken
I’m a hack and slash type of guy so sword will prolly be my favourite
half zephyr
Just wanted to be friendly & use the spoils since you sound new
sacred mural
half zephyr
I sense a different weapon in your future
half zephyr
Be warned this isn’t a spoiler free zone
half zephyr
You want #h1-for-new-players for that
sacred mural
you'll get far soon!
half zephyr
Cya 😄
lyric kraken
And thanks for letting me know
half zephyr
np
sullen oar
not sure if this goes here but Supergiant just posted Valentines and they’re great 😄 https://www.instagram.com/p/CLSI4yJjofj/?igshid=1c7nxkb5qavml
hazy swan
not sure where to put this, but anyways i wanted to ask if hades is able to run ...
just replying here in case someone knows a definite answer to this
stark verge
It's always hard to say because there's a lot of different factors that come in when you're trying to play a game that you don't quite meet the requirements for. So it puts people in a position where they would rather not say something definitive and steer you wrong when they can't know for certain.
However, we have had a couple of people come through in your same position and from what I know they did pull the trigger and I've yet to see them return saying that it didn't work out.
hazy swan
alright thanks! i'll probably get the game later today then and see how it runs on my laptop, if not i can definitely wait until i get a new pc built since i'm saving up for that hehe
stark verge
I think you should be fine. When you're pushing your machine on something it is not equipped for, as long as it will run, it will generally tax the rest of your machine where it can. I, personally, don't think it will be an issue. Everyone used to play World of WarCraft on machines that could not handle it back in the day as there wasn't a mainstream market for gaming GPUs at that time and it worked out fine. Overall I'd say there's a lot more effort in maximizing performance in the present day than 15 years ago to boot.
And while it may not play well, I'd consider this game a good investment. It's going to age very well, it's always going to be there for you.
hazy swan
that's good to hear, thanks! hopefully like the wow players, that'll be the case for me and hades as well :)
all my other specs for the game are above the minimum at least so i'm hoping there's no issues
pale axle
how do i unlock the routine inspection heat option
signal aspen
did you guys know that than can hit crits
night leaf
Especially if you make it to ||Asphodel|| with the ||witches||
or just malphon with attack (athena) and watch their balls hit back at em
hardy oasis
just gotta convince 22k+ more people
brittle canyon
Easy
copper canopy
I’ve been having WAAAAAAY too much fun with Hunting Mirage Shot lately. The
night trench
👁️
Heya
I'm totally new here and wondering ; what's the monthly challenge ? (Sorry if I missed the chan or info somewhere)
(I mean, what is it as a concept, and well why not what's this month's challenge too-)
narrow hemlock
hey check the pinned messages in #h1-builds-and-combat !
night trench
Ah thank you !
copper canopy
So here’s a QOL update I really want to see: Improved Wretched Broker usage
The menu is changed so that you can select various payment options for certain items, with each payment option equaling the exact same
For example, if you want to buy Titan Blood, you could purchase it with any one of the following:
-1 Ambrosia
-2 Diamonds
-20 Nectar
-100 Keys
-1000 Gems
The main purpose for this being so that you don’t have to waste your time trading 1000 gems to get 100 keys to get 20 nectar to get 2 Diamonds to get 1 Ambrosia to get 1 Titan Blood.
You could just buy it for 1000 gems straight.
The other thing I want is a Boon Training Room where Skelly has infinite health and the player can choose any boons they want to practice with.
brittle canyon
I had titan blood up for 15 keys 😳
earnest flame
The special deal is sometimes a great deal...rng hasn't been kind to me on those recently.
brisk trail
Wretched broker
high island
For anyone who hasn't seen, we have a new Hades Monthly Challenge pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat. Go check it out. 
brisk trail
Ooo 💕
ionic rune
holy moly I hate Theseus so much
blocks attacks
literally fills the entire arena with aoe damage
also happens to be an arrogant douchebag
icy sorrel
it may not be the fastest weapon but im starting to fall in love with ||beowulf|| shield
@ionic rune you'll get used to him, he's easy cheesy. Every time he throws his spear, he will always turn his back after.
When he calls upon the gods for aid
he is completely exposed
Always focus him first then the bull.
silk river
I disagree, I think the bull of minos is easier to deal with first. you just have to learn theseus' throwing timing
icy sorrel
To each their own. I don't like Theseus's god damage staying on screen though
The bull is easier to avoid
so I focus Theseus first, but thats just me = )
narrow hemlock
depends on the player. since theseus largely does his own thing while asterius actively chases you around the arena, some find it easier to focus on asterius and just ignoring theseus aside from his targeting reticule
icy sorrel
also MakeTeamPlay, they will damage eachother
not something to rely on but you'll hear Theseus yell at Asterius lol
he's the most stubborn SOB in the whole game. Everyone eventually ||comes to love Zagreus for the most part but NO NOT THESEUS||
he is salt king
narrow hemlock
he has his reasons
hes a very interesting character if you delve into why he acts the way he does and one of my top three favs
night trench
Each character has a very nice developpement
icy sorrel
^ yea
night trench
Can't wait to get new dialogues each time I fail like the worm I am die
icy sorrel
the game still surprises me , so filled with awesome development.
do y'all think that they might ever make ||Cereberus a boss?||
night trench
¯_(ツ)_/¯
icy sorrel
would be cool to not give him the satyr sack
narrow bronze
How many gems do you get awarded per boss with vanquishers keep?
trail pendant
do y'all think that they might ever make ||Cereberus a boss?||
i don't think think so, but he ||appears during the Hades bossfight with extreme meassures on||
icy sorrel
True. And since the game is officially released I haven't been getting my hopes up.
silk river
omg shield is so boring to me
copper canopy
You should always focus on the Bull first, but during ||EM3||, I’ve found it easier to target Theseus first.
Mainly because he’s a lot easier to beat since his back is exposed the entire time.
When ||the chariot breaks||, I just finish him off with a summon and a few attacks.
trail pendant
really? xD I love the shield!
Shield was my favorite
His place was overtaken by the Spear
sullen holly
I remember the first time I escaped in early access but then died anyway i was like wtf lol
buoyant hornet
Anyone else find that the ||second phase of the final boss|| is the easiest?
ancient crystal
What's the best build for Zeus aspect? I've heard doom on attack coupled with a high damage special is good but it seems like everyone has conflicting views on the weapon
deep parrot
I also got aphro duo dialogue
I guess I'll take the one that is for a god that is closer to finishing their portion of the duo prophecy
sea storm it is then
he just needs 2 more for me to not want to ever see poseidon again until after I am done with this prophecy
I have all the dark I need for atleast one side of the mirror!
oop
craggy barn
yall ever think about how when zag drinks from a fountain he just drinks the entire thing instantly
deep parrot
hunger and thirst don't exist to the dead
neither does fullness
there is only the dopamine earned from consumption
so naturally he drinks that glorious water all down as fast as possible
calm eagle
He is unable to choke on water like us meer mortals
runic parrot
What's the best build for Zeus aspect? I've heard doom on attack coupled with a ...
i use ares special + dire misfortune and try to aim for merciful end if i can
just throw that thing and dash through them
humble lotus
Oh i went for athena or artemis special and posideon attack on aspect of zeus
Purely for the strat i refer to as THE BLENDER
outer dew
I like Zeus on special
humble lotus
Being you just use posideon's knockback on the attack to just knock people into the spinning death blade
It is a terrible strat
But it is hillarious (i cant spell)
brazen lagoon
Very good
brazen lagoon
Nah I'm just joking lol its ass
humble lotus
That is a fun effect
I like the either bonus damage from artemis
Or the reflection with athena
Because it just becomes a passive anti projectile barrier
Also anyone else find the aspect of ||beowulf|| realy fun but also never seem to do well with it?
Also i hate that rerolling boons doesnt let you reroll hammer upgrades
brazen lagoon
Would be broken if it did
humble lotus
The issue is there is 1 hammer effect i need left for 2 different weapon's profecies and i just cant ever get them
brazen lagoon
Which one is it
humble lotus
The charged sheild throw
craggy barn
certain aspects can't get certain hammers
buoyant sequoia
kinda funny how a lot of people saw the animation for the game and went HOT MAN when we saw zagreus covered in blood river of styx juice
calm eagle
but it's so sexy
buoyant sequoia
i know im one of the people
calm eagle
good, one must always love every Zagreus animation
Especially the fists flying kick animation
ancient crystal
Thanks @runic parrot
brisk trail
Yoshi
deep parrot
very fishy yoshi
brisk trail
yoshi has a gun?
silk river
So... why doesn't the bullets from rail interrupt like every other weapon in the game?
gaunt tapir
Because if they did you'd have a ranged stun gun that would be impossible to counter
silk river
what about bow
humble lotus
Pretty sure bow does stun because it is a charge
silk river
It makes it god awful in styx
humble lotus
Best ranged weapon is sheild
Not the throw
The charged shot upgrade
It is stupidly good
runic parrot
rail makes up the no stun thing with the stupid high dps it can inflict
humble lotus
My biggest issue with the rail is the fact the only aoe it has is terrible to aim on switch
tepid plover
rail makes up the no stun thing with the stupid high dps it can inflict
You simply can't make a weapon with that range and rate of fire stagger
Doesn't make sense lol
runic parrot
ok
brazen lagoon
which is exactly why they didnt do that lol
humble lotus
I know
humble lotus
Also anyone else find the retacle aiming stuff insanely hard to aim on switch
humble lotus
Like if it let you aim it with the left stick that would be great
But nope
Or gyro aim
runic parrot
the dream is to have mouse aim while also joystick movement
humble lotus
the dream is to have mouse aim while also joystick movement
I mean you can
It is called getting a joystick, conecting it to your pc and binding movement to it
runic parrot
i dont think you can do that but what do i know
analog movement is what im talking about
humble lotus
I mean flight sims do that all the time
green dune
If you have controller just use auto aim
No reason not to use auto aim
Auto aim causes me basically zero issues
@runic parrot playing with a joy stick in one hand and a gaming mouse in the other can be done.
I've not seen that though. I haven't pc gamed in a long time
deep parrot
yk hestia is bestia when it can turn a REALLY BAD build like this into one that beats hades
(I was just going for finishing prophecies, not beating the game lol, but ok)
deep parrot
Auto aim causes me basically zero issues
very rarely auto aim actually causes something to happen that I didn't want to, but usually it's good yeah
scarlet gull
craggy barn
fo2 erebus gates 
wise sparrow
lol
gaunt tapir
fellas I believe that jumping from like 8 heat to 16 was not my wisest idea
deep parrot
you lose rewards that way
gaunt tapir
But the skelly thing :(
deep parrot
you should up it only 1 at a time so you can get as much titan blood and diamonds as possible
gaunt tapir
also climbing 1 to 1 is booring
deep parrot
do whatever is most fun for you
narrow hemlock
you can crank up heat, its just that the rewards continue as if you're going up one by one.
deep parrot
just saying that if you reach max heat on all weapons, or atleast the max heat you are capable of doing, in order to get any more blood or diamonds you have to do it the hard way, with farming
brazen lagoon
i mean you could just pump the heat to 16 and slowly collect the bounties if you want
gaunt tapir
hell yeah
rapid forum
I know the feeling
rapid forum
arty
deep parrot
lmao using zag aspect and talking about skipping heat levels
gaunt tapir
😏
rapid forum
zag bow is really gud tho
gaunt tapir
Inexperience is what makes it fun
brazen lagoon
zag bow is crazy good
rapid forum
boonless run with zag bow is fun
deep parrot
oh I thought all zag aspects were inferior
rapid forum
nope
narrow hemlock
no
craggy barn
after i did 16 i eventually jumped to 32
craggy barn
wasn't that bad really if you just ALWAYS go for heart rend
brazen lagoon
15% actually
brazen lagoon
zag bow is the best zag aspect
narrow hemlock
the weapon aspects are largely fairly balanced, its just that as you get higher in heat levels some can drop off more in utility than others
craggy barn
zag fists and rail 
deep parrot
I have been on 5 heat the whole time cuz of hell mode, and just did 6 and now doing 7 rail, all other weapons still on 5 cuz no clears on anything but rail
desert mulch
Hey quick question is the deadly reversal duo boon something that applies to all damage attacks or only attacks that do critical damage?
gaunt tapir
zag rail 🤢
gaunt tapir
only good one
brazen lagoon
zag rail isnt too bad but compared to the other rail apsects its not very good
deep parrot
zag rail isn't bad, it's just not good
gaunt tapir
I dislike the railgun
gaunt tapir
I've only had fun with hidden railgun 👀
deep parrot
rail in general is amazing
undone moat
did someone say eris
deep parrot
how do I even get the hidden aspects
craggy barn
I've only had fun with hidden railgun 👀
zag rail spread fire
brazen lagoon
i mean when you have eris and hestia as two aspects the rerst are bound to be overshadowed
undone moat
Hestia is like bazooka that I can't actually use 😂
desert mulch
I dislike the railgun
Same. Not being able to move and shoot at the same time SUCKS. Especially for someone who has over a thousand hours in Gungeon.
craggy barn
eris has the most potential in how it's used
gaunt tapir
Same. Not being able to move and shoot at the same time SUCKS. Especially for so...
lmao this exactly
undone moat
what do y'all rebind hestias reload to on controller
undone moat
dash strike is the only move and attack kind of thing
craggy barn
if you can use the damage boost as efficiently as possible it may easily be the most powerful rail aspect
brazen lagoon
it is
undone moat
Eris melts rooms in seconds
gaunt tapir
I haven't tried any of the other railguns whoops
nor the spear
I also dont like the spear
brazen lagoon
spear is good
craggy barn
achilles spear 😩 👌
brazen lagoon
hittin
runic parrot
i dont think ill ever get used to achilles spear
deep parrot
tfw you don't get hazard bomb from the first hammer
runic parrot
i fling around too much with it
deep parrot
undone moat
Achilles hits different
runic parrot
i love good mobility but not too much mobility
my aim is just bad with it so i keep flinging myself where i dont want to be
rapid forum
with achilles, technically you have 3 dashes at start
undone moat
I love how chaos tried giving slowed movement or reduced dash penalty
Achilles go brr
runic parrot
unbind movement controls, move only with achilles spear challenge
runic parrot
oh god..
brazen lagoon
then how would you move once the enemies are dead
deep parrot
lmao
brazen lagoon
i see
runic parrot
pray to god that you were facing an exit when the enemies died
rapid forum
play with only a mouse then
runic parrot
aim at cursor disabled means you can only aim where youre looking
im gonna try that sometime
rapid forum
same
runic parrot
not the unbind aim at cursor thing. that sounds horrendous
pearl saddle
I got the ||family reunited|| thing, what should I do in Hades now?
craggy barn
get the achievements
pearl saddle
playin on switch
pearl saddle
epilogue
EPILOGUE? EPILOGUE TO THE EPILOGUE?
I thought ||reunite|| was the epilogue?!
narrow hemlock
credits and epilogue are two different parts of the story :)
deep parrot
assume the story is unending
cuz realistically it sorta is
narrow hemlock
the main narrative ends, eventually the unique dialogue runs out. but the epilogue is technically the true end of the story
manic moat
what happens when the epilogue ends
brazen lagoon
not much really
modest bolt
Hey guys, should i bother playing bades 9 more times for true ending? Its not necessary to increade heat right?
Hades*
wild solar
for some reason i really like Chaos' voice??
outer dew
Hey guys, should i bother playing bades 9 more times for true ending? Its not ne...
I mean the endings kinda nice
Also it progressed the story more
gilded leaf
Hey guys, should i bother playing bades 9 more times for true ending? Its not ne...
is this even a question?? yes of course
winter harbor
You don’t have to increase heat for the true ending
And yes, true ending is worth it
cunning root
I require an underworld mix version of the lament of orpheus duet
brazen lagoon
first run in a while and goddamn im rusty lol
lost all 3 DD's before elysium
died to dad
cunning sequoia
does anyone use hades wiki
brazen lagoon
Ye
narrow hemlock
the information is correct
brazen lagoon
You need to talk to him twice i think
narrow hemlock
the first dialogue is required to see the one that unlocks the favour, yeah. but the thing you need to remember is dialogue does not always come up immediately
narrow hemlock
so long as you have met the requirements, in this case being talking to him with maxed plume, its in the dialogue pool
yeah im sure, i can personally verify this info
cunning sequoia
ok
novel wasp
dorime
narrow hemlock
if you're still getting unique narrative dialogue, theres nothing necessarily wrong and the game is working as intended
you're just not getting the specific piece of dialogue you're looking for
wild solar
i made the heat thing cry
brazen lagoon
D:
wild solar
im not going to do an escape attempt like that tho
i barely made it out with Stygius once
novel wasp
laughs in 40 heat
novel wasp
pain
wild solar
what is wrong with your I key?
cunning sequoia
what
manic moat
🅱️ ades
novel wasp
🅱️ades
cunning sequoia
like ı forged my bond with almost every character in house with this tactic
wild solar
ı this what is this
gaunt tapir
ı
i
wild solar
what the heck is ı
brazen lagoon
ㅣ
gaunt tapir
thank you
cunning sequoia
so creative
wild solar
vahoot are u going to answer me???
cunning sequoia
what the heck is ``ı``
ı dont know
wild solar
you're literally using it rn
gaunt tapir
Question is why is your "i" letter different to ours
it's "ı" instead of "i"
Respond.
gaunt tapir
the regular i
cunning sequoia
i
cunning sequoia
should ı use i or ı
wild solar
i
cunning sequoia
oki
gaunt tapir
Chaos??
reference to popular videogame god-like rogue-like Hades
yes
that was my intention 😈
gaunt tapir
understandable
brazen lagoon
Turk varmi
gaunt tapir
uh oh
brazen lagoon
Imma be honest with you I am not Turkish that's the only Turkish phrase I know lol
gaunt tapir
damn
cunning sequoia
yeah
gaunt tapir
bamboozled
gaunt tapir
:0
brazen lagoon
Ok
cunning sequoia
delete it
gaunt tapir
this is no longer hades related
brazen lagoon
You didn't see anything mods
cunning sequoia
yea
narrow hemlock
wild solar
hi tatz
cunning sequoia
noooooo
wild solar
it's nice to see you again!
wild solar
don't swear it
brazen lagoon
Oh no
gaunt tapir
jack pick a chaos boon cmon
cunning sequoia
artemis simp did not know it was a swear word
brazen lagoon
No I knew
wild solar
jack pick a chaos boon cmon
h-hey how'd you know?
cunning sequoia
what
gaunt tapir
I am Chaos
wild solar
oh it just shows in my profile
brazen lagoon
Pick one already smh
wild solar
i picked the boon im busy talking to you dolts
gaunt tapir
rude
cunning sequoia
how does @deep pivot play that long
wild solar
i'm not very nice
gaunt tapir
that ping was rather unnecessary
gilded leaf
they probably leave it running overnight
wild solar
that ping was rather unnecessary
most pings are
i'm just used to them
wild solar
yes, yes, spare me the lecture
gaunt tapir
lecture was done the second it started
cunning sequoia
hadi görüşürüz
narrow hemlock
alright folks lets take off topic convo to #off-topic-discussion
wild solar
i hope i get flurry shot from a hammer
i got two things that're gonna boost my dash strike
one i have from artemis
the other from chaos which will be expired soon
cuz otherwise this bow is gonna be clunky
cunning sequoia
in a run i got the explosive bow + 50percent attck speed from hermes
deep pivot
how does <@!315161269474689035> play that long
That's what happens when you love long photography sessions 
Sorry for the late response. I was just getting the right angle and lightning 
(But yeah, that's off topic)
brazen lagoon
What would you rate FFXIV out of 10
delicate rivet
A 14, I imagine
wild solar
Mmm I wanna write a Hades fanfic
jaunty river
aspect of poseidon + exit wounds is so good
wild solar
Do it
Not rn
It's 1am and I'm about to eat, watch some YT, then sleep
I'll think about ideas in my head tho
cunning sequoia
That's what happens when you love long photography sessions <:blobowo:4949016319...
oh i did not know
half zephyr
How much do I not like the bow?
Well, I managed my first 5 heat with railgun without using a single DD, but died on 0 heat using the bow 
The bow was not meant for me in this game >.<
prisma wind
I'm sorry to hear that you're having a hard time with my favourite weapon 
half zephyr
Someone’s trash is another persons treasure
I fully understand this
It just doesn’t work for me in this game 
prisma wind
Bow does take some practice, no doubt
half zephyr
I just wanna dash dash dash
prisma wind
Dash-strikes are the mainstay of bow technique, so you can still dash a lot
half zephyr
The bow last run was just adding insult to injury tho
The run before that w the bow it broke my first 5 win streak QQ
But as always I go where The Darkness commands
half zephyr
Dash-strikes are the mainstay of bow technique, so you can still dash a lot
I can’t even get one of the bow attacks to work properly
When I’m training with Skelly I almost never manage to get the.. what’s it called again..
blinking?
prisma wind
Power shot
half zephyr
The lights supposed to do something & it never does
prisma wind
the charge indicator flashes white just before it reaches full extension
That's when you need to release for a power shot
half zephyr
Ye, that never seems to happen w me
I can get that to work maybe 1-2% of the time
Bow just hates me
jaunty river
Does Orpheus still appear in the House of Hades once I reunite him with Eurydice?
wild solar
Q
is Aspect of Chaos good?
I have it unlocked
I use it
Even if it's not good, I enjoy hearing Chaos' voice from time to time
It's oddly satisfying?
wild solar
I'm not either
After 110 attempts I have one escape
jaunty river
oof
wild solar
I'm super behind
rapid forum
Does Orpheus still appear in the House of Hades once I reunite him with Eurydice...
yes, he just goes to Eurydice every now and then
jaunty river
cool
high island
Ye, that never seems to happen w me
The timing is different for regular Power Shots and Dash-Strike Power Shots. Don't worry too much about not getting Power Shots very much. Just keep playing and practicing, and eventually, you'll get there.
modern arch
I need lots of practice with the shield
desert mulch
I need lots of practice with the shield
I assure you you don’t
modern arch
It’s just hard to not forget everything about using it
Maybe I just need good boons 😔
rapid forum
what I don't like from shield is that you kind of slide off when you dash strike
messing up my position :<
high island
Yeah, Dash-Strikes with shield take some getting used to. You can hold down Attack when you do a Dash-Strike to immediately go into Bull Rush.
karmic hare
Is there any benefit for charging bull rush
half zephyr
Sometimes
karmic hare
So not unless you have the power rush upgrade
karmic hare
Oh I know it negates damage but does it do more damage
half zephyr
first I take out your bull friend & then I dare use bull rush on you 
I do it for fun mostly 
I don’t remember if it does more dmg tbh - The Darkness hasn’t led me down that path in a while
karmic hare
By the way shouldn't Athena's boons say reflect not deflect
half zephyr
It’s just been swapping between sword, rail & bow 
Does it always go back at the baddie tho?
karmic hare
Yeah if it's a projectile it goes in the direction it came from
rapid forum
Yeah, Dash-Strikes with shield take some getting used to. You can hold down Atta...
is that how speedrunners "cancel" the drift?
they go so fast to the point where I don't see the drift at all
brisk trail
Ooookay. Let me try that one more time.
I escaped with 32 heat, Extreme Measures 4, and since I have literally no friends who cares about this game or developer, I had to find somewhere to gloat, so I joined this server.
I did it.
Yay.
high island
Yeah, that's probably what you mean.
half zephyr
karmic hare
Good job and how do I pronounce your name
karmic hare
That's why I never use it
brisk trail
@karmic hare Chiteki Goukan-san, or just Chiteki. I'd translate it, but the bot would delete it.
half zephyr
I’m proud at myself for managing a 5 heat run w/o using DD
karmic hare
You can't hear it but I just pronunced gouku instead of goukan
half zephyr
Then the next round I lost to hades with 0 heat so it balances out
brisk trail
What is DD?
half zephyr
Death defiance
karmic hare
I just trying to complete minor proficiency I don't run high heat
brisk trail
All I have left to do are some of the minor prophecies which shouldn't be super hard.
I've bonded with most of the characters and what little I have left is just the legendary/duo boon RNG stuffs
brisk trail
I'm probably gonna do the rest with 0 heat other than the harsh conditions, which I have like 4 left after doing the 32 heat
and then I'll be 100%ed, woo.
karmic hare
I have hammers and the one with all the different heat and 2 more legendary and duos
half zephyr
I need to approach some gods more often
hollow cloak
Just had a chamber where Than came and announced himself with a whispered "I got you". Been screaming since.
half zephyr
I actively avoid them so I don’t get the last boons XD
karmic hare
After I do that I will convince Zagreus to || quit his job and become a house designer for the house of Hades ||
brisk trail
The Legendary Boons that I have left are one from hermes, aphrodite, and dionysus.
I have no idea how it took so long since Aphrodite is one of the best ones damage-wise so I try to go for her
karmic hare
For me is posidon
brisk trail
and Dionysus is great with stuff like the bow/gun
half zephyr
I actively avoid aphy
karmic hare
Why
half zephyr
I just always get her rooms when there’s a better option next to it XD
karmic hare
Second best damage outlook in game
brisk trail
Aphy sucked when I played on a pirated copy but then I bought the game and noticed that to compensate for her really weak ability she has insane damage
half zephyr
I like other gods more
karmic hare
Ares cast good
half zephyr
So much revenge
half zephyr
And doom can be OP if you get it right
Nono
Not if you get Zeus & Ares revenge combo
That’s really funny
runic parrot
zeus on rail is pretty much the only way of playing rail
half zephyr
Just stand there & random bolts of lightning hit your enemy for no reason XD
karmic hare
Zeus was my first clear
brisk trail
@runic parrot I just beat 32 heat with railgun using poseiden and dionysus
half zephyr
zeus on rail is pretty much the only way of playing rail
Demeter
brisk trail
The zeus duo/legendary boons are amazing
karmic hare
Super soaker build
half zephyr
I had Dionysus & Demeter & got 5 heat no DD rail run 😄
brisk trail
The thing is that I just maximized the damage of Railgun's special
and generally ignored everything else
half zephyr
Was fuuuun
runic parrot
if you can get super soaker with sea storm youre pretty much done building your rail
half zephyr
So sad I had the 1 less boon thing then
karmic hare
Yeah rails special is good
brisk trail
Special with Poseiden: 249+% damage, + 300% damage from hammer, +30% damage from other hammer
half zephyr
I got Demeters legend, but it was crossed out TT
brisk trail
and then 500+% typhoon fury
+8% critical hit chance from artemis boon
Hades took 2200 damage at one point
half zephyr
XD
brisk trail
Needless to say I got extremely lucky
karmic hare
Demeter's legendary is good but it's never saved me from losing
half zephyr
Has me 😄
brisk trail
Demeter's legendary is what saved so many of my runs
I would not have won so many runs against hades without it
half zephyr
Shattered many an enemy & it’s really fun when it’s Hades
brisk trail
wait
I'm thinking of the duo boon
That regenerates health
yeah her legendary is meh
karmic hare
I've only used it once and I had it for one chamber so makes sense that it hasn't
brisk trail
"all enemies have 10% less max health" cool?
half zephyr
But I love watching hades just shatter
brisk trail
that's what it is effectively really
karmic hare
Health regen with shield and death defiance
half zephyr
Oi, I find it fun ok
XD
Might be cuz he said something like “is that all you got?” The first time I had it & then shattered the next second from it lol
karmic hare
It is good the legend but I just don't think I have ever needed it enough and been on low heath I think for speedruns it is prob really good
Cause every room clear ten percent faster
half zephyr
I found out I typically spend around 6 minutes per floor unless I’m distracted
karmic hare
I think 7 for me
half zephyr
That punishment was the easiest to clear
Clear lvl 1 on that is
For the prophecy
I didn’t even notice it was there XD
karmic hare
Yeah I haven't used it because I'm scared but after timing myself and having my boy Hermes give me a pep talk I'm ready
half zephyr
I only started to pay attention to my time spent in the runs after I watched this lets player
And she spends like 2h doing 1 run
brisk trail
Maaan, what is there substantial that's left to do after completing level 32 heat?
brisk trail
Finding a combination of 32 was painful enough, but maybe all weapons 32?
half zephyr
Become the best house decorator in all of Greek legend?
brisk trail
Already did that.
half zephyr
Mix it up & take photos?
karmic hare
I wanted to decorate after I found the bats
brisk trail
Eh, maybe it's just time to use an achievement editor to unlock the RNG-based achievements and then move onto the next game.
After finishing up the remaining harsh conditions thing
Let's see
karmic hare
I mean because || they let you have aerial view ||
brisk trail
Yeah, that was cool.
karmic hare
I can't wait to find out what other stuff does
For a second there someone else was typing
void vigil
rng based achievements?
brisk trail
Let's see, the only achievements I have left are.. Friend's Forever, Thanks but no thanks, divided by death, harsh conditions, well stocked, and thorn of thanatos.
brazen lagoon
Are there any rng based achievements?
karmic hare
Chiteki thinks legendary and duo are rng
void vigil
bad call is kind of rng based now that i think about it 
but youve got that one
brisk trail
Divided by death I think is that one achilles sidequest I need to do, which is essentially grinding.
Friend's forever is also grinding
Harsh conditions, well stocked, and thorn of thanatos are all skill based
and thanks but no thanks is RNG
half zephyr
There’s always starting a new file & seeing how well you can do in how few runs =w=
karmic hare
Learning how to play the lyre is annoying
half zephyr
I found it relaxing
karmic hare
I don't know what to do I just use the lyre a couple times when I pass through
brisk trail
Also, legendary is more or less RNG, isn't it? It's not like you can completely control what gods boons you get.
void vigil
thanks but no thanks is not that hard, i got it pretty easily. if you have the codex upgrade and know the legendary requirements theyre pretty easy to get
half zephyr
I don't know what to do I just use the lyre a couple times when I pass through
Ye, that’s it
brisk trail
Ah, fair enough.
half zephyr
Practice practice practice
void vigil
you can kinda control it with rerolls
high island
@brisk trail we have a leaderboard for high heat pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies if you want to participate in that. You could also do some speedruns and try to get some good times on the speedrun leaderboard.
karmic hare
you can kinda control it with rerolls
No because for new ones you cannot reroll
half zephyr
<@456226577798135808> we have a leaderboard for high heat pinned in <#7250214484...
Isn’t there the monthly challenge thing too?
void vigil
what do you mean for new ones?
brisk trail
Hmm. There's a certain line I draw for self-made goals when it comes to videogames to me, and that usually is factored in at how much I enjoy the game.
I think for this game, just getting all of the achievements and fully accomplishing all the things you can witness in the narrative is the extent for me.
karmic hare
what do you mean for new ones?
Ones you have not gotten yet
brisk trail
Which is still 95th percentile, so I'd place hades in my top 250, but probably not below 100.
Definitely the best roguelite, second best of NT counts as one.
karmic hare
Hades is in my top one
void vigil
im not sure i understand, you can definitely reroll boons you havent chosen yet
high island
Isn’t there the monthly challenge thing too?
Yeah, I post new challenges (1-2 a month) in #h1-builds-and-combat. I actually posted a new one just yesterday that you can try. It's pinned in that channel. We collaborated with the voice of Lady Aphrodite and Dusa for that one!
half zephyr
Hades one of my top fave games so far cuz it’s fun to play over & over & it’s Greek mythology
brisk trail
Greek Mythology is one of the strongest things going for it.
calm eagle
that and the s e x y character design
karmic hare
Yeah I agree
calm eagle
And the music
brisk trail
Greek mythology is a magical theme/setting, it's one of the few settings that both western and eastern developers do extremely well.
half zephyr
I can’t do them cuz me on switch w no way to record runs =w=
brisk trail
The male characters are eye-candy, and I like the LGBT representation.
karmic hare
Yeah I agree
With the Greek mythology thing
half zephyr
Plus i suck at playing
brisk trail
As an action game it's high up there, virtually flawless, and varied too.
half zephyr
I just have fun with it 😄
brisk trail
I don't have many issues with its narrative and I think it accomplishes its narrative goal well too.
half zephyr
Right now my top 2 games to play are both Greek mythology based
brisk trail
Kid Icarus Uprising is one of them, I imagine.
half zephyr
Haven’t played that yet
karmic hare
The new breath if wild but Greek game I want because mythology
half zephyr
And this not be place to discuss
brisk trail
It's fantastic, it's in the same general region of top 250 as hades.
half zephyr
The new breath if wild but Greek game I want because mythology
Yes
Is very fun
I wonder what The Darkness will lead me to today
Yesterday was bow so >.>
brisk trail
KI:U is the director's best game and also the best game on the 3DS, and plus it's great if you like greek mythology. I think compared to Hades, I like the gameplay, music, characters, etc. a lot more, but they both have similar appeal.
Hades has the better story, though, since KI:U feels like a shonen at times with its narrative.
karmic hare
What KI U
half zephyr
karmic hare
Yup let's go there
brisk trail
I suppose.
fringe sentinel
Has the switch version been updated yet?
crimson canopy
Is there a place where highest heat runs are recorded like speedruns are? I'm curious if anyone has beaten a max heat run/how close people have gotten
high island
Is there a place where highest heat runs are recorded like speedruns are? I'm cu...
Yes, we have a high heat leaderboard that's pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies.
WR is 60 Heat by Tailesque, yes.
modern arch
Good job!
:( I had hades down to like a sixth of his hp second stage, but he was offscreen so I didn’t see him activate laser beams.... so close...
craggy barn
the main issue with the last prophecies i have is that i can't be bothered to get them
why would i pick charged volley over perfect shot
maybe the key is to act like i'm using triple shot rama
or i can just kill myself when i get it
brazen lagoon
sometimes you just have to take stuff for prophecies
half zephyr
Orpheus & Eurydice are singing ||In the blood|| in the event room after I made a request about it 
I'll just stay here a while & listen~
hollow kettle
Ohh I just saw the Valentine’s Day post and it made me think about how all seven types of love get representation in Hades
Eros - Zagreus and Megaera
Philia - Zagreus and Achilles
Storge - Zagreus and Nyx
Ludus - Zagreus and Dusa
Pragma- Zagreus and Thanatos
Agape - Zagreus and the gods/his other friends he meets along the way
Philautia- Theseus and himself
brazen lagoon
i definitely know what those words mean yep
dark root
Me too
hollow kettle
I’m going off the meanings in this list https://www.google.com/amp/s/greekcitytimes.com/2020/02/14/the-8-ancient-greek-words-for-love/%3Famp
rare bobcat
(On Steam/PC) Does anyone know why, when I delete a save, it immediately reappears after I leave and reenter the save file screen? Are Steam Cloud saves just incredibly insistent that "no, in fact, you had a save file here, see? I restored it for you :)" or is it something with Hades itself?
if anyone's wondering why I am repeatedly deleting saves it's cause I wanted to try a fresh file first escape just for the heck of it
mossy finch
does anyone know where I can report bugs?
loud lintel
F10 ingame
craggy barn
if you're on switch try #h1-tech-support