👶beginner-help

[lucid maple]

through dorm is she good?

[storm lantern]

no one on dorm is good as a valk, she has stress test and is in er so one of the better outcomes

[lucid maple]

awh that sucks

she looks cool

[shell basin]

You can use her in cope part 1 teams but in abyss she’s outclassed

Physical DPS + Senti + TA

[round bough]

can someone explain part 1/2? i remember i started playing before part 2 but quit before part 2 came, whats the difference?

[shadow gyro]

you mean gameplay wise right?
one sec

[shadow gyro]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message
also click the last link for a video

[round bough]

alr ty

also whats the best team i can run rn

[shell basin]

PAWs VBM VBS

You can get VBM from part 2 story and/or asterite shop

[shadow gyro]

get vbm from the beginning of part 2 + her weapon
so you would have paws, vbm, vbs
for p1 shenanigans you can do hov, si, and ig rc? you can get ta from the asterite shop

if you don't understand the shortcuts you can check the glossary in pins

[round bough]

ohh alr tyty

[shadow gyro]

just know that the p1 team is just a temporary team for early gameplay
the p2 team is what you wanna focus on
mainly paws, save some resources for the next valk you'll pull and use some on vbm

[round bough]

alright

[lucid maple]

marco polo is a good set to lvl up to 50 yes?

cuz i just need to get 9 stigmatas to 50 so i can complete phase 9 of the growth regiment

[shadow gyro]

you can level tm pieces

[lucid maple]

ooh i also lvled up B

am i cooked? lol

[shadow gyro]

ah its not the end of the world but you won't use it

[lucid maple]

ahh i see well i just wanted to finish phase 9

or halfway complete it, ill get the last stigmatas to level up from the new patch

or wait can i just craft hohe's set then get those to lvl 50?

and the hohe box is day 1 of the patch right?

[round bough]

what do i choose?

is this the dkey from earlier?

[shell basin]

No

[round bough]

ah

[shell basin]

You can choose any of those because you’ll get them all for free eventually

But the gloves are probably best first because they unlock the ice gene limit

And you’ll want that for HLE

Since she’s an ice battlesuit

[round bough]

ooh alr ty

[shell basin]

You get one a week until you get all 5

[shadow gyro]

which one?

[round bough]

and what does this mean? will i not be able to use them again for this gamemode

[shell basin]

Not until next week

[lucid maple]

solon was it?

her current meta one

[round bough]

ah

[shell basin]

You can use each battlesuit on one boss

[shadow gyro]

fyi the prism set (solon) is useless without her dkey

so no i won't craft it

[shell basin]

And no don’t craft Solon without dkey, it’s worse than free Peary

And takes prisms which are rare

You can just upgrade Peary

[lucid maple]

ahh i keep forgetting that

[shell basin]

That one is a pretty useful cope

[shadow gyro]

you can show me ur manual duration and what stigs u have rn to decide

if you can wait till next patch then u wanna level hle's stigs

[shell basin]

Peary, Theresa Gluttony T, Fu Hua Musician are all solid ones if you’re in a hurry

[shadow gyro]

when she's out and u pull her ofc

[shell basin]

And yeah HLE stigs if you aren’t in a hurry

[lucid maple]

yeahh i think waiting for hle patch to get my last 800 crystals is safer

i am gonna dump everything on her so

btw in the supply giveaway using crystals still counts as using equipment/battlesuit supply cards right?

[shell basin]

The free pulls don’t count but the tickets they give you do and so does the carnival tickets

[lucid maple]

so crystals dosent?

[shell basin]

Crystals also count

Anything except the 100% off ten pull counts

Tho only 20 dorm pulls are counted (not that it’s a good idea to spend crystals on dorm)

[lucid maple]

ooh ok noted thanks

[shadow gyro]

as long as you consume something when you pull, it counts towards the spending event
even if you get the tickets
but if its discounted or free, then the free portion doesn't

just know that only 20 pulls from the dorm supply counts per spending event
and that the dorm pulls have a different task unrelated to the spends crystal tasks
i think the outfit goal counts all tho?

[lone crater]

yes

[round bough]

how do you get vbm from part 2?

[shell basin]

Just doing the part 2 story should unlock her and her weapon

[round bough]

how much of it do i need to do

[shell basin]

You don’t have to do very much of it and it will also get you starter manual progress

<1 chapter

[round bough]

alr ty

[shadow gyro]

make sure you're in chapter 1-3
then go to the first pick
second pick is where to pick her and her weapon up
third pic is where you get the points to unlock her and her weapon

[frosty kernel]

which one should i pick? i been on sakura samsara for a while now to do just comissions, and i didnt finish apho 1 yet cuz i didnt get that far for the story yet

[shell basin]

It’s theorized that APHO 1 and 2 have better crystals rates but data so far is inconclusive

Certainly you’ll want to max out your level in each one eventually

[frosty kernel]

gotcha

[shadow gyro]

you need to do the other 3 anyways and finish their missions to get the crystals but apho gives you more yeah

[round bough]

do i run paws, vbm, vbs or is it worth it to replace one with hohe

[shadow gyro]

the first 3 is ur general team for hard content that lets you use them so don't change it for now
until you get new part 2 valks

for content that needs different team like ma or for content that only lets you play p1 teams, you can pair hohe with jk and rc

#👶beginner-help message this is how the gear will look like

[dapper plover]

Hey Guys I just downloaded HI3 for first time and I'm trying to login but I only see America and Europe on top right I don't want to make account on those servers bcz I'm from Asia. Can anyone help

[shadow gyro]

you'll need to download a different launcher to get honkai impact 3 (that's sea server)
check #🔌technical-help pins

[dapper plover]

You mean a different app ?

[shadow gyro]

if you wanna play on phone then yeah

if you wanna play on pc then you'll get a different launcher

#🔌technical-help message this is it if you can't find it

[dapper plover]

Man why they even gave the app in play store when I can't even play in correct server 🥀

I need to download everything from scratch again

[shadow gyro]

the app store is supposed to adjust based on ur nearest place
sucks if the one you don't want will show up but its okay

[dapper plover]

If I play on Europe then will it work correctly

Any issues?

[shadow gyro]

no shouldn't be

[dapper plover]

Any high ping issues?

[shadow gyro]

ping isn't really important in this game tbh

[dapper plover]

Thanks imma try that.
If I try to download again I will surely drop the whole game instead of playing

[shadow gyro]

The important thing would be daily/weekly reset, competition level when you reach endgame and whom u can friend

[dapper plover]

Basically the time zone I see

[shadow gyro]

ah i see
up to you!! i hope you enjoy the game tho

[karmic copper]

when will this thing disappear?

[lyric anvil]

Never, it's permanent (unless you spend it-)

[karmic copper]

i remember having them but in different colors, they r gone now so idk

[lyric anvil]

The green ones weren't permanent but these ones are

[karmic copper]

ohhhh alralr thank u

[winged condor]

is it possible for me to get enough pulls to get ||elysia new suit and horb dkey|| in time?

[abstract sequoia]

considering ||the freebies from #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins || and not counting dailies, weeklies and other one-time crystal sources you could still gain, you will have enough to afford HLE and are roughly 36 pulls short for ||HoRb dk||. I suggest you use the "Crystal Income Calculator" to add dailies and weeklies to your crystal count and check "Crystal Sources" for any additionial sources to add as a custom amount.

I believe it should amount to being enough but it's always good to double check the exact numbers

[abstract sequoia]

also to save you some time,
the #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion stuff amounts to:
||3220 Crystals (Only not counting the WeChat quiz event), 20 Equip cards, 10 Valk cards and a choice between 5 Valk, 5 Equip cards or 1200 Crystals that amount to 200 crystals less than 5 pulls||

[winged condor]

much thanks

[frosty kernel]

bruh this abyss mechanic is kinda hard ngl

even tho you broke it they still had high ress

the bonus dmg only for small period of time

[lone crater]

well to be fair, nowadays u bruteforce but indeed

and u should have p2 valks to do that

[frosty kernel]

wow just drop to agony 2 now its harder

[frosty kernel]

yeah fdd cant do it alone

[abstract sequoia]

she should be enough if you play her with a full astral ring team

[odd plume]

that stage is kinda hard, especially with your team
just do other stage for pts and take the L, dont need to worry too much

[abstract sequoia]

am i missing something with their team?

[odd plume]

i knew their team last abyss, FDD VBs VBM, no gear on VBM and VBS

[abstract sequoia]

okay no vbm gear is tough..

any chance they can get at least tsiol 3pc on lvl 35?

[frosty kernel]

yeah no its not

[odd plume]

actually it's agony 2, maybe you can try to improve a bit

[abstract sequoia]

it is agony 2, that's why I'm saying it's doable

[abstract sequoia]

how many prisms do you have?

[frosty kernel]

okay how tho, i am missing 1.2k points

like its just not enough dmg

[abstract sequoia]

how are you doing the crab phase that rams into you?

or did you not even get to that point

[frosty kernel]

15

[frosty kernel]

thats ez

like the 4 pillar ice right?

[abstract sequoia]

yeah, okay so its just the final wave?

[frosty kernel]

its the first 3 stages that takes a long long tim

[frosty kernel]

yeah

[abstract sequoia]

they shouldn't take too long though

[frosty kernel]

the last stage can respawn again, but the first 3 is not

i mean the pillar

[abstract sequoia]

okay... probably would want to save that for next patch, but 3 piece tsiol will greatly enhance VBm's worth

[frosty kernel]

i think i had like 1 min 20 sec left for that final boss

[odd plume]

maybe you can try to use VBs combo for energy, it's a long fight so the trade off may be worth it

[abstract sequoia]

yeah sure

[frosty kernel]

man i am starting to regret breakthrough, feels like i am losing crystals

should have waited till next patch

if i am legit struggling on agony 2 lol

[abstract sequoia]

we do have documented crystal differences before and after breakthrough

[lone crater]

if u were rl pre breakthru and now ur agony 2 then u r losing, mostly depends on where u were b4

[frosty kernel]

before was agony

[lone crater]

prob still gain then or equal

[shell basin]

Agony 2 is better than Agony pre breakthrough

[frosty kernel]

i mean at this point no if i cant even clear this

thats the thing i cant even go to the final stage

[lone crater]

u just need 12000 points

[shell basin]

^

u can also try recording the run

[shell basin]

There’s probably optimization u can do

[abstract sequoia]

A2 Exalted is still more gain than Agony Masters

[shell basin]

Even if you occasionally bounce agony 1 it’s still better that masters agony in fact

Not that you should have to

[abstract sequoia]

btw, are you familiar with VBm's buff uptime?

and what indicates it

[odd plume]

dont forget that you can get a bit more crystal from EX MA too

[abstract sequoia]

more resources in general

[shell basin]

But yeah as long as you’re in agony 2 75% of the time or so it’s better

[frosty kernel]

i know

[abstract sequoia]

oki

[frosty kernel]

atp i am dropping to agony 1, how is this one harder than agony 3 man

[abstract sequoia]

i think you really shouldn't have to drop down there

mind recording your run like previously suggested? we can analyze it and tell you what might be the issue

[frosty kernel]

thought i would easily stayed on agony 3 or 2 at worst like people said but nope, i need to have a perfect run to even stay

[abstract sequoia]

it doesnt have to have good quality, as long as we can see what's going on

[frosty kernel]

i prolly will

[odd plume]

but you aint dropping yet tho, still have to wait for other player

[abstract sequoia]

abyss opened like today

[frosty kernel]

yeah how is that last time bruh 💀

suddenly i was dropped last minute

[abstract sequoia]

that's a 5 hours difference

happens that people wake up late and only then play

[odd plume]

well, you retained, not dropped

still in agony 2

[abstract sequoia]

only lost trophies

[frosty kernel]

i mean yeah you right i was on agony 2

[abstract sequoia]

as long as you don't fall below a certain amount, you're not demoting

[frosty kernel]

how much tho?

[abstract sequoia]

if you tap the agony symbol, it shows all the trophie thresholds

[frosty kernel]

i guess i really need to fix up my runs huh

[abstract sequoia]

yeah

there's usually always some room for improvement

[odd plume]

may feel bad but it's not really bad, just try your best

[frosty kernel]

ohh yeah you rightt

so 700 trophies is i will get demoted

but what is virtual trophies tho?

[abstract sequoia]

they're a safety net against demotion

instead of demoting you lose virtual trophies

[odd plume]

below 900 trophy = demote to a1
you are having 1120 trophy + 105 virtual trophy = 1225 trophy

[abstract sequoia]

you only gain them once after promoting into a new tier

nirvana being an exception

[odd plume]

virtual trophy is just trophy but it's not regainable

you lose virtual trophy first

[abstract sequoia]

yeah, a temporary safety net

[frosty kernel]

ah yeah i understand

[odd plume]

so you are safe from agony 1 for awhile

[abstract sequoia]

you're safe from it either way, if you keep trying you will probably stay in A2 at least, slowly promoting

[frosty kernel]

i thought if you reach a certain rankings on group you immediately you will get demoted

yeah at worst i need to at least stay on 12th

[abstract sequoia]

nah that was q-manifold rules

because it doesn't have sub-tiers

[frosty kernel]

so i dont lose trophies

[frosty kernel]

oh yeah

[abstract sequoia]

q-manifold only has Sinful, Agony and Redlotus as whole tiers

[odd plume]

they dont have trophy system

[frosty kernel]

wait for a week how much abyss reset? two?

[abstract sequoia]

superstring dimension has these split into 3 subtiers (except Redlotus) as well as Forbidden below Sinful 1 and Nirvana above Redlotus

[odd plume]

yes

you can afford to lose trophy for few week

[frosty kernel]

i want to count worst scenario if i keep losing my trophies can i retain in agony 2 till next patch

[odd plume]

but even if you dropped, it's still not that bad, just feel bad

[abstract sequoia]

you lose -75 in A2, so very likely yes

2 abyss cycles every week

[frosty kernel]

so i guess 3 abyss resets till next patch right

[abstract sequoia]

yes

[frosty kernel]

if l lose 75 each, well i can still stay

[abstract sequoia]

that's worst case, but it's really best you play your cycles and ask for help when you're stuck

[frosty kernel]

yeah

[abstract sequoia]

you're super early and that's worth a lot

[odd plume]

it's endgame content anyway, extra afford is needed

[abstract sequoia]

see redlotus retain as your next big goal

once you have a decent team composition

#💁gameplay-help pins also have the current patch abyss cycles

so you can prepare in advance

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion has the ones for next patch

[frosty kernel]

Okay sometimes i get freezed and its making me nuts

[odd plume]

you get that if you stay on 1 valk for too long, need to rotate them a bit

can try to use Vbs combo for energy

[frosty kernel]

Ah i see, i need to switch out whenever i need the enemies to slam the ice pillar

[frosty kernel]

Okay if i use vbs for this time, how would the rotation go?

[odd plume]

not very sure, i guess you can go from FDD > vbs > vbm > fdd

[frosty kernel]

Tbh i already retry couple of times i am gonna do it again later, i prolly just focus on clear story and stuff for better crystals for now

[frosty kernel]

Her qte doesnt give buffs right? Only her ult

[odd plume]

im not sure if you should use vbs ult, can try both qte combo and qte combo ult

[frosty kernel]

I thought vbs buff come from ult am i wrong?

[odd plume]

the buff may not be worth it but can try

[frosty kernel]

I mean at some point they gave you free sp for ults

So i could just switch to her and then ult without spending too much time on her

[odd plume]

not very sure about that but just try everything, her combo give ring energy make you go kabom faster, could be worth it

@frosty kernel #💁gameplay-help message
take a look

not sure about their gear, could be different from you but can try

[fluid grove]

how do i get there?or where is the last chest from mystical forest?

[odd plume]

need the fish pet and complete a side mission, i think after you build griseo horse

[fluid grove]

okay thank you

[fluid grove]

do you think i have time to complete the event? i am at love level 7 only

[abstract sequoia]

you should still have time, but have to make every timegate count

[odd plume]

if you played few days ago, yes

[fluid grove]

ok thx. i do the training everyday and also beat all of the sidekicks

[lucid maple]

Why is the instant lvl 50 and 10 pull says oct 18?

[abstract sequoia]

because thats from the login bonus that starts at the end of this patch

[shell basin]

from when I tested it if VBS is SS+ or better it's about a wash to go out to her to stellar drain

and if you have ult ready it's definitely worth the time

but at lower ranks it's usually not

[abstract sequoia]

7 days, starting october 18th with the prism ticket, ending with the 9th anni badge

[shell basin]

scores were all pretty close tho, the main reason the reccomended rot didn't have VBS is that it's much easier that way

[lucid maple]

I don't see it in my game? Is it a high lvl thing?

[abstract sequoia]

no, we don't have the 18th yet

[lucid maple]

Oooh wait im dumb

Lmao sorry Im tired

[abstract sequoia]

its okay

[quick birch]

It's
Fdd sig gear
Vbm sig weapon + ogier T fhm MB
VBs roald amundsen TMB

Could be that I've used gluttony T instead of ogier there idr

[shell basin]

if I was doing gluttony T on it I would swap VBM and VBS gear and rot order

vbs is much better at triggering gluttony iirc

but I think it's probably not worth it?

Low confidence guess is that Ogier will give a slightly better score

and certainly requires less execution skill

[quick birch]

Swapping go VBs just for gluttony proc ? Nah that's not worth it, I just swapped to ogier T because you don't swap VBm in that frequently to maintain the buff for the whole rot

And ogier T is a passive buff, roald amundsen 3pc is also completely passive

[shell basin]

HSien was suggesting going out to VBS

Which is not actually a terrible idea if it's ranked

[quick birch]

I have a rot for it but just from my testing not switching was still better

And my Vbs is SSS

Something beginners really shouldn't spend asterite on

Though I've done all of this on live server so I don't know the DPS diff for sure

[shell basin]

Yeah my takeaway from when we tested it was

#💁gameplay-help message

[quick birch]

Anyway I do think that switching to VBs may be good to get a general idea about how you'd normally play with 2 supports that you rotate in to activate buffs and then switch to the DPS again

[shell basin]

Which was that going out to her to ult was usually worth it and not to ult wasn't

ult gives better buffs and is way faster

score difference was not enormously large either way tho

and yeah with A rank VBS absolutely no reason to go out

[silver patio]

So i cant clear agony in 120s should i try again or is it alr to be in agony considering i couldnt clear a single stage of red lotus last last week?

[thick bolt]

you'd have better crystal income staying in agony yes

agony retain = 260 crystals + 260 from next cycle
agony promo = 360 crystals + 0 from RL

assuming masters

[silver patio]

I sure hope HLE makes my life easier

So brute force wise who’s better hle or fdd ||i said bruteforce wise since im gonna get bokbarded with msgs saying none cuz it depends on the weather||

[thick bolt]

potentially HLE since FDD dmg is lacking on non ignite weathers.
Might wanna ask #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion for full comparison though

it's a bit iffy with just A rank coralie as a teammate though since she does work with fdd better

[silver patio]

ah alright imma ask in cn and when she releases

[sweet flax]

well you'd also be using fdd as a bis support for hle as well, + coralie helps with triggering the leader passive and general buffs

so technically she has the better support options since fdd would have to cope with vbs

[quick birch]

You'd prob cope with HLE then

Not like it's a lot better but yk

[sweet flax]

should also factor in the fact that it will be hle shill next patch

[quick birch]

Yeah definitely

[sweet flax]

so brute force cases are rare

considering fdd was the current patch release as well

[opal palm]

how many crystals should i have for 4/4 vita?
and is it possible for vita's skin to get a rerun in the future?

[sweet flax]

vita's skin will get a rerun eventually yes, but may I ask if vita is a personal preference pull or you believe her to be strong

[opal palm]

personal favourite

[silver patio]

25,200+16800= 42000 for guarantee weap and char but depends

[sweet flax]

there will be the carnival banner next patch, but you should not pull on it unless you can garuntee (pity doesnt carry over) and you will get 2 free 10 pulls for that banner

so you'd need 39.2k crystals assuming you dont get any earlies (which is what you should aim for)

[opal palm]

okie! whats a good amt to have just for like a very high likelihood
not to familiar with hi3 gacha but if theres like soft pity?

[sweet flax]

do not rely on soft pity, more likely than not you will go hard pity

[silver patio]

No official soft pity and i forgot the calculated/made one

[opal palm]

ohh okay i see

[sweet flax]

there is an assumed soft pity at 74-76 pulls, but as mentioned not confirmed by hoyo
also it is debated whether or not it is a soft pity or just cumalitive data

[silver patio]

How come i got blood rose when i needed 97-98 pulls for guarantee still

[sweet flax]

that's the dorm banner and you got lucky
also blood rose is irrelevant outside dorm level

[silver patio]

Heh.. hoyos fav child here yall

[opal palm]

so its not like genshin/hsr's soft pity then? oki i see thanks

[silver patio]

Hsr soft pity is good like i got e9 and her lc both in soft pity dont mind that i got bronyas lc in 1 poty

[sweet flax]

yes, so back to your question @opal palm
there will be a vita banner next patch, through carnival banner
carnival banner has 2 rounds, each round gives you a free 10 pull to use, so my recommendation if you want vita is as follows:

round 1 of carnival do a free 10 pull for vita, if you get her, make sure you have 16.8k crystals BEFORE you decide to pull her weapon, if you dont have that amount during round 1, wait until round 2
if you do not get vita, save your crystals for round 2

round 2 of carnival do another free 10 pull on vita, similar if you get her, pull her weapon with 16.8k crystals
now if you dont get vita from this free 10 pull, make sure you have 39.2k crystals to garuntee both vita and her weapon
if you do not want vita weapon right now and can wait a couple of months until her eventual ascension banner, then make sure you have 22.4k crystals to garuntee vita herself

it is imperative that you are able to garuntee, pity on carnival banner does not carry over so any crystals you throw on it become sunk cost the moment the banner ends if you didnt get anything from them

[opal palm]

thank you! screenshotting this it's very helpful
what is the ascension banner? i assume its her last banner before going into the BP only(?)

[sweet flax]

yes, its similar to the ADV banners we had before, its called ascension for p2 valks

the odds for the equipment during those banners are the same, but the valk herself becomes harder to get as rates are reduced on the ascension banner

[opal palm]

do i have to pull for vita and her weapin the same time? can i not split it up?

[sweet flax]

basically if you cannot garuntee vita or her weapon right now, just wait until this banner as a "last chance" banner
ofc getting vita from this banner if you go hard pity (which is likely) will result in a SS rank vita instead

this banner is aimed towards whales, and should keep in mind vita is losing meta relavency with every patch that comes as she cannot support newer rings and her dps cases are slowly fading out

[sweet flax]

you can yes

the idea is get vita first, which will need 22.4k crystals
if you cannot secure vita with that amount then just wait, the weapon is not a rush

[opal palm]

yeah im very set on getting vita, no matter her meta relevancy, i am a huge fan of alhaitham and anaxa so im playing hi3 for su and vita mainly

[sweet flax]

good luck with your pulls, how many crystals do you have at the moment btw

[opal palm]

so after round 2 could i make sure i have 22.4k to spend on vita, then save again and wait for her next banner?
currently have 20k i hope its possible haha

[sweet flax]

more than enough, by the time the banner comes out you will have the remaining 2.4k

if you get vita early you can garuntee her weapon as well

otherwise just save 16.8k when her ascension banner gets announced to pull weapon there

[opal palm]

okay! i'll see how much i can farm before then but likely i'll just get vita battlesuit and wait for her weapon then. tysm this was super helpful

[sweet flax]

no problem

feel free to ask if you have any other questions

if im not mistaken, next ascension banner should be eepy teri followed by vita, and assuming they keep the same frequency of ascension banners her ascension supply should be in 8.6

this is just speculation at the moment however

[opal palm]

do you think thats enough time to get enough crystals for guarantee weapon? still new account so that might help

[sweet flax]

more than enough f2p players make an average of around 20k per patch (now that patches are longer) and we are assuming it will take another 2 patches

[opal palm]

oh thats perfect YAY thank youu

[sweet flax]

ofc this is assuming you are keeping up with your crystal sources such as abyss, elysian realm, etc...

[opal palm]

what does SS/SSS rank really do for the valks? is it similar to eidolons or a bit different

[ancient needle]

It is similar, yes

Though the impact is less for S-ranks afaik (cmiiw here)

[ancient needle]

They aren't worth going for on gacha S-ranks unless you're a whale

[quick birch]

You can somewhat compare it to that, though what it actually does is extremely dependent on the valk it can either be something really good utility wise or "just" a simple multiplier increases, ranks also always increase the valk's attack

[ancient needle]

And even if you are a whale you wanna go for more valks first

[opal palm]

im willling to make stupid decisions (already have mostly f2p e6 anaxa hsr) but would sss be VERY stupid or just a bit stupid

[ancient needle]

Very stupid xdd

Having supps for your valks is very important

• you probably won't manage to get to SSS as an F2P cuz of how the rerun schedule works here

[ancient needle]

Most of the reruns happen close to the valk's release

[ancient needle]

Before the valk is close to being irrelevant I mean

[opal palm]

asumara mentioned that going to hard pity on ascension banner gives an SS rank instead? how does that work?

[ancient needle]

You get valk stamps while pulling on that banner

[odd plume]

every 10 pull give you extra stamp, use stamp to rank them up, at 90 pull, you get enough stamp to rank her up to SS

[silver patio]

Oh? So meaning songque is coming to bp since she has an ascension banner right now? I dont get it

[opal palm]

if i have S vita from the next patch rerun and pull again on ascension (assuming i have enough) is that SSS? (i know it sounds very unworth it but im just considering for now)

[ancient needle]

No

But relatively close to it

[sweet flax]

she will eventually be added to bp
all ascension banner means is that its the last banner for the valk

[ancient needle]

You can check how many frags you need to get a valk to SSS in-game

[sweet flax]

having the base s rank the following will happen if you hard pity on ascension
you will get 100 shards (10 stamps) + 50 shards (dupe)
you will have SS1 vita as S > SS is 100 stamps and SS > SS1 is 50 stamps

[ancient needle]

1 stamp is 10 frags

A dupe of an S-rank valk is 50 frags

[opal palm]

whats SS1?

[sweet flax]

you need to pull 6 dupes to get to SSS from S

[ancient needle]

Each rank before SS and SS itself need 25 frags

SS1 to SSS need 50

[ancient needle]

It's a rank

[sweet flax]

between each rank there are 3 minor ranks
S S1 S2 S3 SS and so on

[opal palm]

makes sense that is a lot gacha games not so kind

[sweet flax]

ye but eventually vita will be added to the bp which will allow you to slowly get her to SSS if that is a goal of yours

[ancient needle]

It'll take a looooong while though

[sweet flax]

and in the very far future she will become farmable through other means

[ancient needle]

If F2P

[opal palm]

not sure how much time and money i want to invest into the game but i guess i'll have plenty of time to think about it lol

[ancient needle]

An extremely long while

[odd plume]

a single SSS valk isnt much better than nothing

[sweet flax]

1 dupe every 5 patches as f2p
so.... 30 patches or 240 - 300 weeks depending on each upcomming patch's length
or around 5 years

by that time she might as well be in the dorm banner and farmable in wt

[ancient needle]

Might as well get a j*b fr

[sweet flax]

thank you for censoring

[opal palm]

😭 how about buying bp when she is on it only?

[sweet flax]

we are talking about the reserve shop (permanent bp shop)
she will eventually be added to the bp as an addition but its still gonna be a while

but you can only get 1 copy of her that way

either way rank ups are unecessary and just the base unit alone is fine, if you really wanna go for rank ups just wait for ascension banner after getting her from carnival and that's ss1

then in the future through other farmable means you can get her to sss slowly

just keep in mind like carnival, ascension banner pity doesnt carry over, either have enough or go home

[opal palm]

ohh okie, ill consider that after initial gachas and see how my luck was, and then consider doing it in the long run. thank youu

[silver patio]

How long do you think hle will take to get an ascension banner

[sweet flax]

my guy she didnt even release yet

[silver patio]

Its okay

[ancient needle]

Well, look at JDS

[silver patio]

So no estimate for that?

[ancient needle]

She came out in 7.6

And has an ADV rn

[silver patio]

Dont know who that is, prob songque

[ancient needle]

Ye

[odd plume]

about 1.5~2 years ig

[silver patio]

Lidk if thats long or short

[sweet flax]

assuming they continue to release 1 ascension every patch, and it continues following release order (excluding sena) then we can infer that supposedly hle ascension will be in 9.3

[silver patio]

nyways im 1% and i will get SSS HLE in the future.

Also getting her and her weapon in one ten pull trust

Also thnx for answering my question

Omg lst question

Are they gonna add every S rank in the bp or random ones only?

Or we dont know

Im ready for the shame

[sweet flax]

new bp system is still too new to tell

[silver patio]

Oh its new?

[quick birch]

They're roughly following release dates with both reserve work and the paid BP shop so eventually everyone will be in there unless they revamp it again

It will just take a lot of time

Everyone as in everyone currently released

[silver patio]

Omg i hope they add hle in there… probably gonna be in there in like 20 years

Hope they dont quit working on this game

[quick birch]

They won't

At least for a while

[digital kiln]

Are s+ errands impossible to do

[lone crater]

just need more valks

[odd plume]

is possible, but you need SSS of a base S rank valk or almost SSS i can't remember

for low lv S+, you mostly just need more valk

[outer spruce]

need to rank up more valks

[remote ridge]

hey guys

I just started playing again after abandoning my account for about 3-4 years. Should I create a new account or play on my old account?

[sweet flax]

it mainly depends if you have any competitive goals, the meta has changed significantly especially with the part 2 system so that should be the main factor in deciding if you want to restart or not

[odd plume]

restart is better

[sweet flax]

also any valk you had back then are now farmable

[remote ridge]

thk u

[odd plume]

if you can reroll for PAWS, that will be even better, but only for tryhard

[round bough]

if im trying to be competitive/play only meta are there any certain things i should be doing?

[sweet flax]

this should serve as a general guide line, but id suggest you go through the pins as they cover a bunch of topics

[round bough]

alright

[round bough]

what do i do with all the dupes of her stigmata?

[thick bolt]

salvage dupes for source prisms

[round bough]

alr ty

does anyone else use that set or do i just salvage them all

[quick birch]

prism stigmatas are made so that only the battlesuit they're made for can actually effectively use it since they're free, 90% of the buffs are locked behind 3pc and that the stigmata needs to be equipped by X battlesuit

[spiral badge]

i won't deny that there's a very rare possibility some of them may see a very niche high end or budget use, but at worst you can always craft them again (the inefficiency of this is only 1 prism if you haven't upgraded the stigmata).

For the most part if you need prisms, don't hesitate to salvage any dupes.

If you're hesitant then read the effect and keep anything that feels potent.

@round bough

[round bough]

ohh i see ty

[spiral badge]

oh i forgot to say, another use case for a dupe can be still on the same user, but with different affixes.

Historically I only know of one case for this in part 2 and it no longer exists (thelema sp affix on SSS huodou in memorial arena. Nothing actually important).

[silver patio]

Hey so

Ive seen people saying when you reach lvl 80 dont break the roof or something

To reach like lvl 81+

[dark eagle]

Guys will i have enough time to finish these events?

[silver patio]

Considering i only have fdd as an actually decent/mid? char do i break the roof?

Once i reach lvl 80

[storm lantern]

yes

it will make abyss harder gameplay wise probably but its more xtals

and it gives u lite for ma

[shadow gyro]

the livestream one isn't that long but do continue alr
the first one is very timegated because of the resources that it needs to build stuff but do try to at least progress as much as possible
if you can't complete it by the end of the patch then make sure you get the crystal rewards and u can also fetch the skin if you want

[cold niche]

i should get Fallen Rosemary from war treasurey? i have 1300 aw

[storm lantern]

if you have the discounted s-ranks on dorm left save wt mats for after you get them

but if not she's the best pick

[supple sentinel]

hello! when will be the new pink elf banner arrives in SEA/Global??

[odd plume]

after current banner end

[supple sentinel]

the date i mean??

[warped geyser]

oct23

[supple sentinel]

thank you!!

[frosty kernel]

i did it, its quite challenging now but it gives you more crystals

https://youtu.be/eNZM70kGvCY
i tried to improve my run but this is the best i can get, idk which section i can improve nor will it be enough to clear it

this is the stage i am struggling rn

[silver patio]

Whats this is this mirage?

[fierce kernel]

Why can’t my FDD clear abyss I’m literally in agony like;-;

[outer spruce]

Memorial Arena

[fierce kernel]

What the hell am I doing wrong

[frosty kernel]

agony before breakthrough right?

[gray onyx]

which non part 2 valk should i try investing in?

none of them have their equipment

[frosty kernel]

prolly none

[fierce kernel]

My team in abyss (Agony) and I can’t barely get to floor 6

[storm lantern]

do as many attacks in stellar outburst as you can bc they get a 30% damage buff, i doubt its enough to make you clear though

[gray onyx]

why not?

[frosty kernel]

uses vbs

[storm lantern]

vbs over rc, fdd gets a large buff for having any 3 units with astral ring but u dont switch to her ever

[fierce kernel]

I barely built her omg what is your build

[frosty kernel]

you dont need to build her, just level it up with roald stigmas

[shell basin]

You don’t need to build her

[frosty kernel]

if i am not mistaken

[shell basin]

Level 1 should work fine

[fierce kernel]

Okay wait gimme a sec

[frosty kernel]

isnt that what i am already doing tho?

[storm lantern]

no

you can fit quite a bit more than just the 2 combos u need to get max stack ult

[frosty kernel]

oh yeah i get what you saying

but dont think its enough

i just accept defeat for this abyss

wont get demoted anywa

[lone crater]

0, u can still farm one of them to get them to sss, so you get gold witch orbs via memorial arena or something

[storm lantern]

can also save outburst as a vbm buff refresh instead of using it when you get it

[shell basin]

^

Most efficient time to use it is when VBM buffs are just about to run out

[fierce kernel]

So like do I not click vbs during battle or what

[storm lantern]

right

[fierce kernel]

Okay thanks lemme try

[frosty kernel]

did you equip the stigmas yet?

[fierce kernel]

Yah

Roald amu smth

[frosty kernel]

ok

[shell basin]

Cool. Should be a pretty big damage buff

[fierce kernel]

Do I use the same stigmata for vbm

Or should I switch to smth else

[shell basin]

Ogier T+FHM MB is best

[frosty kernel]

feels like it still wont be enough, i try this more efficient in the next abyss tho

[shell basin]

Yeah maybe not, sometimes you have a rough weather

[storm lantern]

also how's your gear looking

[frosty kernel]

its maxed out

[storm lantern]

🥀

[round bough]

which ones agony? jw

[silver patio]

They suck, hope this helps

[abstract sequoia]

because part 1 valks require way more effort and time to invest into than part 2 valks while also tremendously weaker in comparison

[shell basin]

Some P1 valkyries still have bosses but they're rare and usually need full gear + BIS teams to compete, often ranks too.

takes a ton of investment for something that's barely better in a handful of cases

[abstract sequoia]

banners don't run anymore, weapons and stigmas are obtainable through tedious grinding at best, unobtainable at worst

you will get the chance to get some gear for older valks while playing, but it shouldn't be your only reason to play

you'll just end up unhappy due to not getting the same crystal income than players who actively use part 2 teams

[lone crater]

i mean real reason is they just simply dont shill them anymore

only appears once in blue moon

its like if you want to do good enough then you won't backpull sena atp cuz simply won't get much more weather

[shell basin]

Well sena is at least in Bpass so it wouldn't take crystals if you had the crystallum

so it's not quite as bad as backpulling her

[odd pecan]

Who i can use against them to win? Notice that it is 4th level ;0

[shell basin]

You can use iirc griseo ult to attack the back row directly and skip the counters

that + using items should win you

[odd pecan]

where i can get flower that looks like blue lotus? for fried rice in event

[odd plume]

click on the item, you will see where to harvest

[odd pecan]

last fight - idk what to use against it

[shell basin]

I just used sand pigs

[serene crystal]

Boar which removes energy as this will mean that it never gets to use its special attack

[lyric anvil]

Pig vs pig

[dark eagle]

Ok thank u

[fluid grove]

how do i do this puzzle? what sidekick do i need?on mountain side

[shadow gyro]

you need to build sakura's horse so she comes with u and get rid of the broken trees

[fluid grove]

oh ok thank you

[sweet flax]

what's the current abyss btw

[outer spruce]

starless rimestar

[sweet flax]

welp at least dea anchora will see some use, or does ps outscore her

[outer spruce]

you can just use hoo dps if you don't have fov

paws dps works too

[sweet flax]

hoo dps?

[outer spruce]

yeah hoo is 2nd best

[rugged compass]

She is? lv sci ce scored higher for me

[ancient needle]

What HoO comp did you run

[sweet flax]

well either way im demoting from nirv I really pick the best times to promote

[ancient needle]

Mention the ranks as well

[rugged compass]

S2 HoO
S0 HoFi
S2 LV

[ancient needle]

That's why

[rugged compass]

S2 HoO

[ancient needle]

Not SS HoO and LV supp

[rugged compass]

I dont have htr

I got all other lightning supports

[sweet flax]

doesnt she use gd

[ancient needle]

Better run PAWS if no HoTr

[ancient needle]

BiS on this cycle is HoTr

[rugged compass]

Paws was awful

Atleast from 1 iffy run

[ancient needle]

She can 740-750 with DS

[rugged compass]

703
3 bars left

[rugged compass]

What supports

[ancient needle]

FDD PS/FWS

[sweet flax]

hoo hofi hotr? hmm, could I get away with s3 hoo on her signature? hofi and hotr are s2 and ss
or do you think I try another team to try and cope retain

[ancient needle]

How's your Brick

[sweet flax]

what brick

[ancient needle]

[sweet flax]

I can upgrade my 7t and craft a second handel piece if it makes a difference

[quick birch]

7t is pretty bad on HoO if you're doing long fights

[ancient needle]

You're in Nirv lah, just take the L

[sweet flax]

I dont wanna keep demoting from nirv 😭

[abstract sequoia]

relatable

[ancient needle]

Gotta learn to sandbag

[abstract sequoia]

i might have to do that this cycle if i play too hard

technically i shouldn't but you never know how your bracket is

[quick birch]

i expect a few people to promo with paws tbh

[rugged compass]

I have to ask

When does 1st phase end

[quick birch]

i've seen people score 730 with FoV yk RL is something

[rugged compass]

I dont FoV :(

[ancient needle]

Lemme try rq

[rugged compass]

Or HoTr so i was screwed regardless

[outer spruce]

i love rl

[storm lantern]

uh idt thats even a good score in nirv LOL

[storm lantern]

holy shit s0 fov

[outer spruce]

what the

[sweet flax]

wait even if hoo is leader I trigger hofi qte with ult?

[outer spruce]

yes, it's still trio

[ancient needle]

My dirty run ends at like 890

A more optimal one can probably do 900+

[rugged compass]

No SO 1st phase correct?

[ancient needle]

Ye

DS AO

[sweet flax]

slacc bracket save me

[ancient needle]

Wtf

[rugged compass]

Got 850.

Pathetic

[quick birch]

iirc no fdd wep is a noticeable dmg loss but there could also be another issue here idk

[storm lantern]

yeah idt fdd wep accounts for all of that gap

[ancient needle]

dkey diff + affix diff + no weap and it sounds about right

The P1 part that is

[rugged compass]

1392 attack.....

[ancient needle]

[rugged compass]

But really its 1392+48, only lvl 60 pri 😔

[rugged compass]

Whats ur atk

Omg wait

I was thinking HoO

1411ish for helia

Woopsies

[ancient needle]

1473

[rugged compass]

Aw

[rose holly]

Is there anything starless to be done without fov

Or am I better off running badum

[upbeat egret]

Paws dps

[sweet flax]

asaphieeee

[ancient needle]

HoO DPS, Brick

Then PAWS

Badum DPS ain't that great here

It's best if you just mention what you have

[rose holly]

That

I have her

And sparkle

[rugged compass]

Brick is good?

...ah dudu

Nvm

Thats why its up there

[sweet flax]

[lyric anvil]

Tbf Rimestar has no Phys res

[sweet flax]

the fact its a p1 bio unit also helps in this specific weather to be fair

[lyric anvil]

^

[upbeat egret]

[sweet flax]

why u whip

[rugged compass]

Can 12/12 Prom
Brick score higher than 710?

[upbeat egret]

Why not

[sweet flax]

u mean

:c

[upbeat egret]

[ancient needle]

idk whether TA can reach the lanterns

If she can, it should be doable

[rugged compass]

What lanterns

The thing that stacks to 8?

[ancient needle]

The ones that give you up to 8 stacks of the buff

Ye

Though this assumes that your HoS is SSS and you have S2+ HoRb

S0 HoRb is probably pretty bricked here

[rugged compass]

SS HoS...
S0 HoRb.......
SSS Prom....

I hate not owning any fire dps's

[ancient needle]

🧱

[rugged compass]

:(

[ancient needle]

This cycle doesn't need Fire lah

[lyric anvil]

P1 or cope

[rugged compass]

I hate not owning FoV and HoTr!

[rugged compass]

Would aponia be good? :D

Or am i coping too bad

[rugged compass]

I got 13/13 :<

I need to retain this cycle for sena weather :(

[outer spruce]

wrong honkai game

[cosmic marten]

Omg I just realized-

[ancient needle]

Coping imo

[rugged compass]

Aw man

[rugged compass]

Helia is awful.....732 and 4 bars left ._." After SO so maybe i times it wrong and tbh that makes sense but still

[ancient needle]

Wtf

Record a run

And are you sure that weapless FDD is the play?

I SOed right at the beginning of P2

But you may need to do it after the shield part

[rugged compass]

If it is....what the absolute fuck

[ancient needle]

Wait, what are you using

[rugged compass]

Helia
FDD
Badum

[ancient needle]

No PS?

[rugged compass]

No

[ancient needle]

RS?

[rugged compass]

No.

[ancient needle]

😭

[rugged compass]

Just HoH and Badum.

And fdd.(wepless)

[lyric anvil]

I got 717 with that team

[storm lantern]

hoh against ice immune is incredibly suspicious but you can try ig

[rugged compass]

Goodbye whom?

Fdd or badum

[storm lantern]

fdd

[rugged compass]

Kay

[rugged compass]

Naw

[rugged compass]

https://youtu.be/2H2EsoTUtUg?si=YGIkp5V51okldI5P

I would of stopped it after SO..but had to commit. And man..

Oh
Whoops Songque op.

Not like it would of changed drastically.

[ancient needle]

SQ should be better

[rugged compass]

Oh ok

[ancient needle]

Than DS I mean

[ancient needle]

You don't break all the lanterns in the beginning

For consistency I just waited until they appeared and drifted away far enough before doing FDD's enhanced WA

Also doing Badum's WA in the opener is pointless

[rugged compass]

Just plunge is fine?

[ancient needle]

Ye

[rugged compass]

Mb

[ancient needle]

And you really have to figure out the basics sequence

[rugged compass]

I did aponia for fun and got 667 lmao

[ancient needle]

Also you need to stay in the circle during the shield part

You break it faster that way

[rugged compass]

Its hard

[ancient needle]

I think that's all

[ancient needle]

This is the most important part

[rugged compass]

Im trying..

[rugged compass]

U think s3 HoO could compete?

[ancient needle]

idk tbh

[rugged compass]

I can get....4 stamps..

1 off... from ss...

[rugged compass]

2 from er and 2 from pwo

[cold niche]

I’m assuming I should try to gacha for elysia, what would her possible team be?

[ancient needle]

Well, you want Symbiosis supps

FDD is BiS

The third slot should be situational

[lyric anvil]

Boss dependant

[cold niche]

Wait what does that mean 😭

[quick birch]

Symbioses is the name of the corresponding support tag to GoI the astral ring specialization of HLE

[quick birch]

You'd run HLE/FDD/Vbm here since you don't have a second symbioses support yet

[cold niche]

Ah ic ic

[quick birch]

Though try your luck with the 20x free carnival pulls and see if you can get FWS since she has the symbioses tag and provides some utility on SD bosses, and HLE has quite a few SD bosses

[cold niche]

I will have to mega grind 🫡

[cold niche]

Oke tyyyy

[cold niche]

I thought elysia uses a bow does the new one use the scythe or is that just a new weapon overall

[lyric anvil]

Her signature weapon is a bow ||(though I think she uses a wand in her gameplay while Ult is a bow)||

[lyric anvil]

That scythe is for an older Valkyrie

[ancient needle]

Maybe it's better to go for PS to diversify?

[quick birch]

HLE's bow is shown besides her, hoyo includes both battlesuit and equipment supply in " themed supply"

[quick birch]

I'm kinda torn between the two but imo considering HLE niches and use cases FWS feels like the better pick especially if they both aren't too far off and when they won't be able to utilize their DPS coverage properly

PS is def still a solid pick, for people who started in paws patch it may be a little bit better since some paws weathers really emphasize HC

[cold niche]

Ah ic I’m just blind

Wait how much crystals would I need to get elysia and her weapon

[quick birch]

!faq rates

[small willow]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[cold niche]

Ahh tyyy

[quick birch]

Assuming from your account you're rather new ? If so you should be able to comfortably get both her + her weapon

[cold niche]

I restarted on Europe server so my starter bonus just finished

I used it to get coralie and her weap

[quick birch]

Otherwise for the future 30k crystals is a good baseline and a 75% to get a 4/4 valk

[quick birch]

You probably still have plenty of one time crystal sources then, make sure to give " crystal sources" in the pins a read if you're wondering where to get some extra crystals

Otherwise the next patch is also CN Anniversary so we'll get some freebies which can help you get HLE + weapon faster

[lyric anvil]

Believe we're gonna be getting free 10 equipment cards soon before 8.5

[cold niche]

awesome we're on path 8.3 rn? and elysia will come out 8.5? or am i tweaking

[quick birch]

We're in 8.4

[cold niche]

ahh

[pure beacon]

i'm at low captain level 19 and have done all the story content that's not level 20 or higher, i'm stacked on stamina but i don't seem to have anything i can use it on

other than just grinding story stages i've already finished

[quick birch]

Elysia will be out in a bit more than a week, on the 23rd October to be exact

[shell basin]

You can grind more new story to level up or do expeditions to get battlesuit fragments for dorm levels, or do dailies. Pretty soon you’ll unlock open world but you still need some more levels for that

[pure beacon]

i can't do more story, it's locked behind level 20

where are the other things you mentioned

[ancient needle]

Do you have Starter Manual?

[pure beacon]

no since i technically started like 3 years ago i aged out of it

[ancient needle]

Yeah, I very strongly suggest you make a new acc then

[pure beacon]

i'd drop the game before doing that

[ancient needle]

It would significantly improve your experience

[hybrid stone]

should i do my story for more crystals? even though it takes kinda long icl but idk if 17k gems is enough for hle and her wep. ik were getting big rewards tho

[ancient needle]

😭

[ancient needle]

Yeah, it's best if you grind up more

[ancient needle]

Do you have BP missions unlocked?

[storm lantern]

what why, your account has less than a day of progress

[pure beacon]

no i think i read that they unlock at level 20

[lyric anvil]

[pure beacon]

so it's really just a short period of time where i'm kind of stuck with not much to do

seems like a lot of things unlock at 20

[storm lantern]

i like badum since she loses less support utility missing weapon

[quick birch]

Are expeditions already unlocked ? Should be under attack -> start -> material expedition

[pure beacon]

let me check

[quick birch]

Both don't really lose a lot of utility as a support

Unless I'm forgetting something important on PS

[storm lantern]

she gets the wa reset but i cant remember if it matters for the paws hoc weather

but i just meant damage

[pure beacon]

yeah, i have two under material events that it looks like i can do once per day, then i have the expeditions tab with some stuff available, it's recommended level 23 but i can give it a shot, at least it's something to try

[shell basin]

Tbh I would probably rate PS but this is because I think it’s broadly more valuable to have more weathers where you’re not totally screwed that more weathers where you can try for t3

And both seem easily justifiable

[pure beacon]

oh it uses trial ones anyway that are at level 25

[quick birch]

Iirc getting the HC wall down the first time doesn't count as "an enemy killed" or smth since the wall technically still exists

From the runs I remember you just used PS BAs to force her second WA again or you changed the rot a bit

|| also isn't PS speed getting slightly nerfed in 8.5 ?|| but either way I think this again boils down to a recommendation that may change based on the account and the players preferences

[ancient needle]

Like -2 pts, no biggie in this context

If you meant the fast QTE

[quick birch]

Yeah I wasnt sure how fast it actually is, has been so long since I used normal sus qte 👴

[lyric anvil]

Fast QTE?

[quick birch]

When you press WA and ult at the same time you skip some part of sus' qte and ult faster

[lyric anvil]

Ohhh

Oh wait-

[blissful marsh]

hi guys i just started playing again and i need help building senti

wepons teams and such

[shell basin]

She’s outdated. Her BIS team is Horb RS but they’re not worth pulling

For free options you can look into TA RC as cheap support

For weapon you’d want brick but you just missed your chance to get it so it’s gonna be whatever cope gauntlets you have

Stigs depends on what you have available but for newbies it’s Marco Polo TM Attila B or just Peary 3pc, you might have something better tho if you’re returning

[blissful marsh]

idk what the letters mean

[rugged compass]

Senti isnt reccomend for investment nowadays, however her best team is
HoS 4/4 Brick and Pericles (and SSS)
HoRb S2 4/4
RS 4/4

She isnt worth investing into compared to new releases like next patches HLE (and her weapon) would provide more value, as she is GoI, the lastest astral ring and the latest valk to release. It is generally a good rule of thumb to pull the latest valk. (There is also a pulling guide in the pins)

[shell basin]

BIS= Best in slot. The others are battlesuit shortenings, there’s a glossary in the pins

TA is terminal Aide, RC is reverist Calico

Breath explained the others

[rugged compass]

Theres a glossary in pins, there is also a tutorial if you are unsure on how to use it

[blissful marsh]

alright thank yall

should i just start a new account?

[frozen crypt]

Why the fuck are they fixing that

[blissful marsh]

i restarted

[shell basin]

Probably unless you have a lot of crystals / pity or some newer valkyries than senti

New player bonuses are great and returnee bonuses suck

[blissful marsh]

im glad i did

void and elysia for free

omg

[cold niche]

is HoFi still relevant?

[blissful marsh]

is that kiana?

[cold niche]

ye

[storm lantern]

hoyo hates fun

[shell basin]

With her new dkey yes

[blissful marsh]

ouu i forgot i have her

[shell basin]

She’s a good support for Vita / FDD and has some weathers with trio or HOO dps

If you don’t have her new kit or don’t have trio or don’t have vita / FDD she’s much less noticeable

Since HoFI herself is available for free over time in reserve works and about to ||enter dorm gacha||

[cold niche]

ohhh i have fdd but no vita

and i dont have her new kit either

but i loved her and senti on my old account

so i was just wndering

[shell basin]

It’s probably not worth pulling Hofi’s dkey whenever it next reruns but if you have FDD it’s at least not pointless

Until you have it the most you can expect out of Hofi is some niche SS MA use

As a cope option

[cold niche]

okie

[winged veldt]

Which OW task has better rewards? Sakura/Apho/Apho2? And how to unlock Schicksal HQ?

[odd plume]

Schicksal HQ unlock after lv 50 and need to clear samsara story first iirc
important reward pool are the same but apho 1/2 usually has better chance to get crystal task

[shell basin]

It’s theorized APHO 1 and 2 are best but there’s no hard data

I’m working on it but it’s slow going

[lusty island]

for the star tempering clash event is it easy to just brute force and get most important rewards without knowing the rotations for each team combination or do i need to go through each of the valk tutorials and learn how to play :’) (lvl 50 account, day 5, only free valks)

[shell basin]

Its fairly easy to brute force ime, rotations are mostly not that much of a thing because SO automatically refreshes buffs and it gives you an SO every like 5 seconds

And also the thresholds are pretty low for points required

Tutorials are very useful in general and knowing rotations is a key part of gameplay but you don’t need too much of it for this event in specific

[round bough]

are astralops worth pulling for

[shadow gyro]

#🎮honkai-chat message

[shell basin]

If you’re already bouncing nirv and have a good roster you can consider it

Otherwise absolutely not

[amber finch]

hey

are you alive

check if im bricked, got sick and couldnt rmb if i logged in yesterday or not

[odd plume]

dont need to worry too much, just some crystal
most player missed a lot of crystal for many reasons anyway

[shell basin]

Yes?

How can I help

[lyric anvil]

[ocean monolith]

Is HI3 have android gamepad support like on Genshin and ZZZ or not?

[abstract sequoia]

unfortunately no, HI3 does have it on PC and IOS though

you can however connect a keyboard on android, with default keybindings supported

[ocean monolith]

Oh ok, I guess I will try my best with android touchscreen for now

Keyboard on Android is neat but I think is just feel different than gamepad/game controller

[abstract sequoia]

it is different, but i can say from my own experience that all input methods are just as playable and are more up to personal preference

[amber finch]

the pic

is me the brick or naw

[shell basin]

No but it is funny

[amber finch]

thx lug u

[cold niche]

Who should I be leveling?

[wraith mist]

I just saw shes here, how do i get her?? I started my account for her

[shell basin]

VBM

[shell basin]

You can get her by saving up for 5 patches or by buying the upgraded battlepass to get more krystallum

She’s also ||Entering dorm supply next patch|| but the odds that way are terrible

[wraith mist]

5 patches... :( thank you, i will think about getting the bp or not. Yeah i can see dorm supply has a ton of different characters, i need to be extremely lucky. Thank you for explaining

[proper sleet]

guys, what do I do here?

which one should I claim?

nvm, just saw that I can obtain all of them eventually

lol

[abstract sequoia]

Get either of the first 4

• Pistols and Cleaver of Shamash unlock the Fire Gene limit (only one is required for the gene limit, the second weapon gives a global ATK boost)
• Jizo Mitama (The Katana) unlocks the Physical Gene Limit
• Grips of Tai Xuan unlock the Ice Gene Limit
• Star of Eden only gives you a stat boost, so leave it for last

[shell basin]

Tai Xuan is probably best to get first because HLE wants ice gene limit

get that upgraded asap

[abstract sequoia]

Definitely a solid first choice considering the short time until next patch

That being said, you upgrade these weapons with Spirit Jades (the green donuts), obtainable through the reward boxes from Realms of Battle

[proper sleet]

who is HLE?

[abstract sequoia]

the upcoming Elysia battlesuit

[proper sleet]

Ooh

I see

[abstract sequoia]

we have plenty of info about her in the pins of #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

if you want to know in advance what you will be pulling for

[acoustic ivy]

did we got a questionnaire this patch? or i just miss it?

[next spade]

is this the best team i can do on my acc? (For helia)

[thick bolt]

badum fdd would work better
probably depending on boss it'd be a combination of fdd badum ely for paws

[hasty cipher]

does anyone know how i can get prism cubes

to level my stigmas up

[lucid maple]

question, for q-manifold will the stage element stage change or its still fire?

[sweet flax]

the weather changes every abyss, but it matters less in q-manifold since the disturbance is very low making everything brute-forcable

weathers matter a bit more in masters redlotus (and especially post breakthrough in superstring dimension where disturbance is much higher)

[lucid maple]

ok thats nice, still cant fully clear the current one

[sweet flax]

what team are you using?

[hasty cipher]

hold on arent prism cubes used to upgrade stigmas? is there another way to upgrade them or is it new

[lucid maple]

the cat and painter flamechaser and seele

[hasty cipher]

actually im stupid ignore

[sweet flax]

are you talking about this? I assumed you meant source prisms

since source prisms are used to upgrade part 2 stigmatas

[sweet flax]

in that case ye, the faq I sent has sources listed in it

[hasty cipher]

thank youu

[sweet flax]

is this a newer account?

[lucid maple]

i am a new player overall lol

[sweet flax]

if so then dont worry too much about difficulty in clearing, once you get your p2 s rank things become much easier

[lucid maple]

i just dont wanna miss crystals for hle

[sweet flax]

id recommend you use hov over seele for the time being since beginners get her pistols as well which will make her your strongest dps option until you eventually do the first chapter of part 2 and unlock a rank coralie (vbm) + her weapon

also this should help serve as a basic guide on how to build the units for the time being
id advise to also give their kit a read, or do the valk tutorial so you can understand how your supports can apply their buffs
feel free to ask if there are things you are unsure of

[lucid maple]

ooh ok illl take a look thanks

[celest shard]

Do I have enough time to clear all the events still when I’ve not touched them at all?

[lone crater]

u might not get the thel outfit

[shadow gyro]

the livestream one maybe
the summer one, ehhh no but maybe you can still snatch few rewards
fall girls, maybe not but you can snatch some rewards
the one with fdd on its banner can be done in one sitting

[celest shard]

I think summer I only started and got like 12000 wood when I popped back in yesterday

Too many events, games, and everything all at once

Falls girls I think I have like 2700 already

Oh, 150000 wood xD

[shadow gyro]

try to do all as much as possible
the ones that are easier to do and get rewards for is the livestream one and the last event

[celest shard]

Livestream I did because it was like maybe 20secodns a day

[shadow gyro]

at least get the crystals if you can't finish the event bf it ends
you can also get the outfit if you can somehow afford it since its hard to snatch but ut doesn't improve your valks so its just for preference and collection points

[celest shard]

It’s Thel, I want it

[proper sleet]

I know this may sound a stupid question, but how do I complete the second mission?

I somehow at Chapter 9 in part 2 story, and somehow I haven't done chapter 1

[quick birch]

!faq cof

[small willow]

How to find "Covenant of Finality"

Sorry for the confusion, Captain!

Part 2 of the Main Story will unlock at level 30. Both "Covenant of Finality" and "Genealogical Seat" are part of this storyline.

Main Menu (Bridge) > Attack > Story > Extinguished Starlight and Rekindled Fire > Tides of Time gone by > Play!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[proper sleet]

you saved me 🙏

[sweet flax]

btw dont worry about a question sounding "stupid" this channel was intended for newer players who arent as informed anyways

just incase it disuades you from asking in the future

[amber finch]

hey hey hey

[sweet flax]

woah ches alive?

[amber finch]

ok so

i need some counseling

[sweet flax]

on?

[amber finch]

bchops for 8.5 and no im not telling you to talk me out of not whaling

[sweet flax]

lol whale

[lyric anvil]

Ches whel

[amber finch]

ok so do i buy this patch’s bp + the bchips i need for 8.5 now or skip bp and whale on 8.5

[sweet flax]

what level is your current bp

[amber finch]

there isnt any top up next patch or anything right

[sweet flax]

shouldnt be any top up resets, those happen on cny, we are just entering cn anni

[amber finch]

120, im just buying so i dont have to wait another patch for thel stamps + weap

[sweet flax]

how many crystals you got rn?

[amber finch]

22.3k

[sweet flax]

or do you just want bp for crystallum > stamps

[amber finch]

[amber finch]

crystallums so i can buy thel stampers

[sweet flax]

icic

[amber finch]

i need 44 balls total

[sweet flax]

how much you planning on spending?

[amber finch]

i have 18 rn so its another 2 patches of knight

[amber finch]

5.3k bchips

[sweet flax]

id go for this bp then

[amber finch]

could be more but that should be it rn

[amber finch]

including 1 knight btw

[sweet flax]

5.3k is more than you will ever need bro 😭 I dont spend that much

[amber finch]

would jump up to lets just round up to 6k for 2 knights

[amber finch]

hmghe i only have 22k (24k with bp) and i want both hle and dkey tho

[sweet flax]

ohhhh

[amber finch]

yeah

[sweet flax]

and you wont let me talk you out of it correct?

[amber finch]

the 5k is 2 1980 packs, 2 300 packs and 2 60 packs

[amber finch]

yeah i just wanted to know if i should wait 2 patches for ss1 thel or just 1 basically

its mainly bc of how mid this patch’s bp is

its just so mid

[sweet flax]

imo id get next patch's bp and make sure my monthly card can last till the end of the patch first
the extra b chips depends on your goals, since your goal is crystallums id consider buying this bp for the extra resources as well
as for what to do with the other 5kish bchips are you gonna buy them all at once? id rather wait and see how my pulls go first before buying them

also do you NEED to get the valks day 1 or is waiting a week or 2 fine?

[amber finch]

yeah thats the thing, if i buy this patch’s bp, i’d buy all the bchips i calculated too just bc of the hassle, if i lucksacc then it’d just waste away in my inventory

[amber finch]

nah cant wait, the fomo is too real for me to wait

[sweet flax]

damn

[amber finch]

i can wait up until sunday

but after that im immediately caving

[sweet flax]

its too expensive ngl man, I think just buy enough for both bps rn

[amber finch]

[sweet flax]

or is there a time limit on when you can spend money?

if its whenever you want there is no reason not to wait

[amber finch]

ehh around the 15th of every month can be like 2-3 days later (its when my uni pumps me with money lmaoooo)

“student support funds”

[sweet flax]

ye but I mean spending it not recieving it
if you can spend it whenever you want then just wait until patch drop

[amber finch]

oh whenever unless im really really really poor ig?

[sweet flax]

[amber finch]

i dont have an emergency fund bc i just bought new stuffs so

[sweet flax]

good, then just get enough bchips for the bps you will buy and refresh your monthly card if you need to, cheapest options and in the case you luccsack you avoid overspending

[amber finch]

so its a go for 2 bps right

[sweet flax]

when patch drops if you plan on spending further then you can make a more careful decision

[amber finch]

monthly i can ignore for another 2.5 months

[sweet flax]

have you already considered all the anni rewards?

[amber finch]

yeah i did but i’d need to wait 1-2 weeks atleast to get all of them, the immediate ones are just the free 10 on ely + free 10 equip cards

[sweet flax]

ik which is why I asked earlier if you are fine waiting 1-2 weeks

[amber finch]

[sweet flax]

I just meant did you account the total you'd spend for those rewards

[amber finch]

the fomo asu, its just too big

[amber finch]

oh wait spending?

[sweet flax]

wdym spending, im talking about da moolah for da bchips

[amber finch]

OHH

[sweet flax]

like spending your money

[amber finch]

yeah