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it is lore related but its not that important thanks tho!
Still interested to see the pic though
don't know where else to post this so here are some headcanon ideas i have about the finals as a show
- each episode of the show consists of - assuming each episode is one hour long - a couple casual matches at the start and then a tournament at the end. alternatively there's episodes dedicated to casual matches and then a couple tournament episodes at the end of each season
- whenever a match ends everyone's weapons and gadgets dematerialise and they just get a couple minutes to talk to each other about the match or whatever before they're kicked out of the arena
- everyone on the gameshow has a kind of holographic hud on their arm that acts as/represents what we see on the hud in game. like it shows their health and gadget cooldowns and stuff
I'm sure the tournament games last longer than what we actually play
Lore wise that is.
I think tornament is a single long episode
Anyone else see the word MOON in the ascii transition logo screen after matches
The game could use some more story. It has potential for sure
Exactly,
@gentle bronze
just cant get over the fact that their not lined up
The numbers mason, what do they mean?
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big nose
what? they're glitchy, perfectly aligned while stable.
aaahhh, i didnt even pay attetion to those lines while playing, my bad
just noticed the spacing is set as
"< = > 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 : < = >"
is it possible that it means nothing and is a misdirection?
Can anybody give me a quick run up on all the info on the "S Lies" part of the lore
if im not mistaken we believe that S stands for the Sofia character
Theory is Scottie is lying about something, possibly his ever being a contestant.
@narrow hollow another possible theory.
i forgot about scotty lol
Yeah it seems more likely to be him, with June speaking directly to him saying "The writing is litterally on the walls."
yeah i was about to mention that
I see
the fact that she implies hes kinda of a cheater with her tone is a nice detail too
I had just seen that it was used to decipher some other puzzles
Yeah she clearly doesn't like him.
not excatly a fact since is kinda subjective but i like to believe it
Yea that's what I was assuming, that he cheated
That's why that achievement is named that way
I've also heard speculation that while Scottie is for sure a real person, it's possible June is an AI in the game world.
He could've cheated, but he also could been a coward.
i gotta admit i was surprise to see cns supporting the game rather than sabotaging it, cuz they were pretty much hacking thr game with vague hacker group phrases
What if Scottie was a CNS prospect? Or visa-versa?
I think he just used his connections with the sponsors to work some kind of deal to somehow be either completely invulnerable or believably op when he competed
thought they be some dedsec kinda of group
And now with the updates to the voices it's got some other weird responses and sentences
Like when she says it stings like being kicked out of your best friends inner circle
whatever it is, this modern hunger games (in fame) theme to the gameshow just makes the lore even more interesting
Possibly implying the ceo he's close friends with might be suspicious of him and CNS being connected somehow
Especially how much they emphasize on him
I think it seems less hunger games dystopian, and more post apocalyptic. If there was a catastrophe that forced everyone inside and online, the outer world could be rotting. Could be a "We Happy Few" type scenario.
I think more like Ready Player One
Everyone blind to the choas surrounding them.
But yea they never mention what happens to the losers, just how much the winners get
It's a little bleak
or maybe scotty does really shady business to attract the sponsor and that also attracts attention to organizations like cns
yeah i meant hunger games like since its the most viewed gameshow, but theorizing at the offline world of the finals, im betting on something like ready player one
I don't think Scottie is in control, and it's not really implied that he is anyway. "Thanks to our hosts", "Thanks to our sponsors", various lines of his imply that he has an employer, or at very least an authority above him.
I also don't think the lack of focus on the losers implies anything like a hunger games scenario, very rarely on game shows do you get much more than a "Thanks for having me on the show!" from losing contestants.
we (almost) synced
I haven't seen or read Ready Player One, but my understanding is that it's a hyper-capitalist dystopia, correct?
not in control but he definetly is someone influencial, hes pretty much a celebrity
pretty much, everybody is always online cuz of poverty and shit
Celebrities with influence are almost never the ones directly in charge of that influence, they are all beholden to the contract.
not if hes an A tier celebrity, and considering he hosts/comments the gameshow, that could be the case
I still don't see it. Ever notice in the "Offline" video, that he says
"Ah, time for an Ospuze Pro Juice!"
and June says
"You actually drink that stuff?"
Anything strike you a little odd about that exchange? The first note is that he doesnt say "Spuze" or "Ospuze", he says "Ospuze Pro Juice!". This is something you would do if contracted with a sponsor. Second is "You actually drink that stuff?" She can't believe his actually drinking the sponsor beverage. Every time he says "Ospuze Pro Juice!" on air, or drinks one live, he probably gets a little kick back. He's doing this offline, to keep himself in the habbit. If he were an "A-Tier" celebrity, he'd have money coming out his ears and wouldn't be worried about that little kick back. He'd be performing as natrually as possible, to ensure the viewers are able to connect with him more as a real fan of the show, rather than a guy getting paid to host it.
It's a small thing but Scottie really doesn't strike me as "in charge".
Edit: Totally skipped my second thought on that exchange in the first posting.
Edit 2: Edits on the end of the thought.
Very curious to see or hear any mention of Arc Raiders or the finals in each others game. Waiting to hear more about any type of crossover in there digital world.
cool
ooooo yaaa i forgot to tell yall the lore reference thingy i found. i couldnt post the picture so ill just copy paste it and yall will see what i mean. here check it out:
Tin Foil Hat Time: this white rabbit has more meaning then you think. i believe its a reference to the original first matrix movie where a hacker (in this case probably CNS) used it as a way to get in touch with NEO who was trapped in the matrix (in this case probably the finals).
its on the same spot and ABSOLUTLY fits the theme and lore. I think CNS is telling us, just like they did in The Matrix, to "follow the white rabbit NEO"
so im assuming that the white rabbits appearing around the map sometimes means something. idk any of yall noticed this reference but maybe those rabbits lead us somewhere?
Stuck in "We are waiting for other contestants to connect"
How is this a lore?
some people canât read
Yeah i guess so
What does CNS stand for??
we currently assume its
standing for Central Nervous System
Thatâs pretty cool
The lore is too obscure but the theorys are fun to wonder about. Like central nervous system can go pretty deep lore theory wise
Or is it "COMPUTER AND NETWORK SYSTEMS" ?
A Google search result ;
CNS can stand for Computer and Network Systems, which is a division of the U.S. National Science Foundation that funds research on computer and network systems. CNS supports research and education in areas like:
⢠Computer systems and networks
⢠Hardware and software systems
⢠Future-generation computing and communication systems
⢠Cyber-physical systems
⢠Secure and trustworthy cyberspace
⢠CISE education and workforce development
What if they really hacked THE FINALS �??
Rob eyed Central Nervous system already : #easter-eggs message
Ooh and CNS Software is the group which works on Networking
Makes sense
Hi
if you're playing the game through a VR headset, then how come you start coughing in tox gas and wincing when badly hurt?
Not to be all tin foil hatty but I think that maybe the characters we play as are in a virtual competition and it's called The Finals because the aim of the characters is to get to the finals to win the virtual competition.
Any information about this cybersecurity corpo VAIIYA yet? Im really interested in learning more about them.
They uh failed from protecting The Finals from CNS
Omg that actualy could be it
Ye probable
Just gonna leave this here: https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/CNS
I think The Finals hired them to protect them from cns because Holtow failed and got hacked
(my theory)
Holtow is just an insurer not a security service.
Imagine if its CNS for ARC or smth
Hello fellow lore nerds
Ah okay
I just heard in a powershift game from June and Scotty, that CNS Has been attacking their broadcast for a long time and Not only since season 1, anybody knows the Line?
Yea they were in the CB2 with âS LIESâ CNS isnât new.
Ah okay thanks
But does anybody knows the Line where they talk about that? This Line is new I think in the Easter Update
No problem the wiki actually has like a full outline of a lot of these things. There is a wealth of knowledge there.
CNS
Okay thank you
my conspiracy theory is that Scotty is an AI in canon and The Finals is about sublimating human intelligences into digital consciousnesses for machines to learn from
they're all plugged into the matrix a la SUPERHOT
I wonder if player unfluenced lore will be a thing. Like people making groups that become canonized by embark.
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I bet the S stands for Society

Can someone explain what lore we have gotten from solving the Easter eggs? I have been following the hunt for a while but I'm a dummy. Not looking for paragraphs of explanation (unless you want to đ) just curious where we have gotten from this
Alright here's a theory: MultiCorp is not the original owners of The Finals nor are they its creators. We already know that a second entity called Discovery Corp has its name and slogan on the default weapon skins and the word Discovery appear in numerous points throughout The Finals. So what if rather than just creating the weapons, Discovery Corp created The Finals in its entirety, then was later taken over by or had The Finals taken from them by MultiCorp. Then MultiCorp was either too lazy or too cheap to bother removing all the references to The Finals original owner.
thatâs a good theory
This takeover could also coincide with CNS' appearance, all of the advertisements in the game are for MultiCorp owned companies, so it could be that after Discovery Corp lost ownership of The Finals MultiCorp started putting in advertisements and sponsorships and aggravated CNS. It could explain why when CNS first started hacking the arena they first targeted the adds and sponsor websites and why SYS$Horizon has no advertisements at all instead with CNS opting to put their own logo in their place. CNS is simply trying to make the finals what they think it should be
when Scotty was a contestant, what class was he? For me he totally feels like sledgehammer Heavy, but I could also imagine him as a Medium.
Lore?!?!?!
Dude comes off as a medium to me man idk why
the only things we know about Scotty as a contestant are that he thrived as the last remaining contestant of his team, and if the "Just Like Scotty" achievement is to be believed, he was REALLY FRIGGIN' GOOD at The Finals.
achievement would make sense, i mean he's a commentator, so that does mean he should have quite a bit of experience with the game show
Okay so did we ever figure out what the energy drink Ospuze is? I'm pretty sure its a hallucinogenic that teleports them to the virtual world where the game takes place. Must be some sort of group hallucination - like what we see in real life with LSD, DMT, etc.
Hmm while I don't personally think this is what OSPUZE does, at the very least I'll concede to the fact that we're being informed that Scotty was a former contestant and that he supposedly drinks OSPUZE much to June's disapproval (who seems to imply that it's disgusting to actually drink).
And for Discovery, it's notable that the game's executable is still Discovery.exe to this day
I know that Ready Player One is obvious to cite as a reference for this game (regardless of what one thinks of the book and film), but putting it this way definitely sounds like the equivalent of an alternate scenario where IOI won/stole the Oasis VR tech basically.
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hi
Wrong channel fam, this is for lore stuff
It's a joke about how robbing banks in the real world is illegal.
Is there a lore in the finals?!?!
We should just pin a message that says "Yes, there is lore in the Finals"
Okay? Take it up with June I guess.
Karen
Did we ever find out what it tastes like? Some people have speculated eggnog (from nama tama) which I doubt. I think it might taste like the Panera charged lemonade that's got some kills under its belt, especially considering June doesn't like Scotty drinking it. Just a thought.
Not really related to the conversation but it's something I've been wondering since the open beta
Sunny D
Sponsers are one hundred precent evil

Hi
Yeah, we know that CEO of Ospuze is sophia petronelle...

Dang
Just responding so I can create a server lol

Lore?
Yep
Anyone wanna try to sum up the lore for me
the game is in the future and much of day to day life seems to be handled in the digital world, most people seem to live bleak lives and one of the ways you can get ahead in life is to participate in and do well in The Finals
Lore.
IMHO i donât think the current direction? of the like evil matrix, dodgy corpos, and noble hackers trying to make people see the truth is all that engaging. i thought it was just a silly little game show with no stakes and all fun :p sure that might not be a compelling narrative forever but also like, how can you justify that we keep playing the finals if the finals is some corrupt thing. break out of the finals by playing the finals? are we going to have a map where the cashout is replaced with a virus we inject in to the finalsâ servers or something? you know what i mean. so yea really hoping they donât lean too hard into that
The game's main gamemode is Cashout. It puts four teams of three players against one another as they race to make the most Cash before the timer runs out. Players obtain Cash either by killing other players or by taking a vault to Cashout Stations. Cashout Stations award a large amount of Cash once collected, emphasizing their importance, denying is key to winning the game. The game's primary mechanic is Destruction. It allows players to destroy almost anything in an arena. This adds a level of uncertainty to gameplay, pushing players to develop strategies and take advantage of the environment to tackle any situation, you are able to explode walls to breach and give enemies unexpected times. Health management also plays a major factor in the game. When a player is killed, a pile of coins will explode from their body and they will be turned into a small statue. Players must interact with this statue for a few seconds before the respawn timer ends in order to revive their teammate. To increase the likelihood of a successful revive, players can pick up or throw the statue to a safer location and then revive their teammate. Should teammates fail to revive a player or they choose to respawn, a Respawn Coin will be used. Each player has four respawn coins. Should a player use all of their Respawn Coins, they will be unable to spawn for the remainder of the match. This makes teamwork and strategizing essential to succeed.
The game features a casual playlist known as Quick Play as well as a ranked playlist known as Tournament. A Practice Range is also available to test out equipment and abilities outside of matches. Playing the game will award players XP towards their Career Progression which unlocks cosmetics and weapons. Contracts are challenges available that will award additional XP once completed.
Lol i dont understand the lore, i just know its in the fututre and we compete in funny gameshow
It's Ready Player One+Hunger Games+Alita: Battle Angel
You forgot the Matrix
what egg lore
Of course, also Star Wars bc we'll be using the force like crazy
That's next level lore, our minds ain't ready đ
Immense
Best sum up I ve ever seen
I would say he was a medium class main
But I would want generally to find more out about june or scotty
I would say Scotty is def a light class
Imagine the lore for this game though it could go crazy Imagine if there was like another triology just l;ike the hunger games
Counting people are playing for cash + CNS is constantly tryna hack in I'm partially expecting some status quo capitalism connotations with the story which could be interesting? I still need to look into any earlier hints and story beats tbh
I feel like a new game mode might be based off of CNS like the map is glitched and certain areas have âhacksâ you can pick up that were left by CNS kinda like the power-ups in hyperscape
Anybody gotten a hacked equipment screen before? It just happened to me I had to close app but it had an odd message
It said âThis is a description of something that is no longer there. Which is why a player should care and only keep 3 reserves. â
Im not even joking that almost verbatim every word besides the first line
what? meaning?
3 reserves..as in 3 player loadout reserve slot??
lore
^ nice nitro scam we got there
there's lore?
Yeah im not to sure but it was odd seemed like a message
YES since the Season 1 Trailer, or?
since always
oh okay thanks
my theroy is that the ospuze has some kind of mind controlling thing, and its trying to take over the meatspace or something. just an idea.
And it tastes like Sunny Delight
What is this channel for?
lore
What is lore?
yes
THERES LORE?
Yep
There is
LORE D:
This is actually just a glitch, I had it happen to me a while back with the Urban Samurai headgear where rather than having a description it just said "This is a longer description of what this selected or viewed item is and why a player should care. And reserve space for 3 lines minimum"
This also happened when the equipment menu was glitched
Yeah it was odd lol
So it must be that for whatever reason when the game glitches it defaults to the placeholder text the devs put in before adding a description
This description mentions 'plugging in' to watch The finals. That could mean simply plugging in your VR headset, or it could be a more serious kind of simulation. It could be that the members of the audience are really sitting in the grandstands , with their simulated body present in the same simulation as the contestants, just watching from a long distance.
So... Orf and Nama Tama exist outside of the show?
please chat normally friend and do not spam 
If you mean as in outside the show in virtual space? Yea,i doubt they actually exist in meat space
Kinda hope for more nama tama content ngl
Please donât spam the chat this is for lore discussion not a single word competition @elder plume
Yeah, makes sense, it's the plug in that got me thinking
THIS^
Something to also consider. the game was called "Project Discovery" before it was called The Finals.
Maybe merch
Does The Finals exist in the same universe as Arc Raiders... đ¤
Funfact: The song called 'xX_TF_CNS_FreeDoom_Ver07_24bit_Wav_Xx' is neither 24 bit or Wav encoded. The song is in fact encoded to 16 bit 48KHz flac
None of the titles in the s2 album matches the codec info for the songs. The song titles lies
There are theories but no concrete evidence
Yoooooo
My guess is that The Finals is a training ground for the Arc Raiders or itâs their form or entertainment.
In a world where itâs not safe to go outside, I would imagine the latter to be true.
I like the theory of entertainment more. We wouldn't fight other humans if it were for training
didn't know this existed. Nice find!
The Finals is a matrix, a simulation in the future where people compete in order to better their lives
All players are kept in hospital beds being force fed a regimen of Ospuze through tubes and triple insured by Holtow
Theyâre all plugged in through cybernetics, for those that can afford it. Those that canât have to settle for a type of VR to play, that isnât as effective. Their chances of winning is definitely less.
Those that are plugged in are immersed into the competition as if it were real life
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Idk if this has been mentioned but Scotti just said in one of the games "The retros have just respawned and are looking to recreate their glory days" which I think means according to the lore "the retros" were an amazing team. Idk if I'm going to a far conclusion but it would make sense if Scotti was in this team back when they had their "glory days"
People compete at a chance to better their financial status. There arenât many ways to earn income in this future. These competitive simulations are how people make a living
People use their real world money to compete in the simulations. Kinda like gambling. Thereâs a buy in to play.
As Iâm thinking this out Iâm realizing this is probably gonna be a concept in the near future
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lol I originally posted that on Reddit like a month ago.
ye that dates back to CB1 iirc - weâve known about all these references but itâs nice to see new folks pick them up
Thatâs where I got it from. Good post. đ¤đť lol, I was sitting here thinking wouldnât it be funny if the guy who posted it was in here as well.
interesting
what is the lore
The rainbow you see in the background of Horizon looks very similar to the rainbow in the arc raiders art as well
if they make a movie or something id hope its abt scotty
that'd be sick]
It would be super cool to actually watch some the finals tourneys with the vr
@neon shell instead of multi-sending, use the edit feature. right click the message you want to edit, click edit, and add the rest of your thought.
!!!!!did you guys there are theese websites there are some text in them https://www.holtow.com
Yes! This is everything we found inside it https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Holtow_Website
This page provides information about a website of one of the seasonal sponsors of THE FINALS, HOLTOW, and its dissection by Easter Egg hunters.
thx did not know there was a wiki page for the finals
Why is the Skyway Stadium super moon yellow?
Is it an easter thing or a april fools thing?
Are that hacker group like trying to shutdown the headsets (Reference toi sys 64738
How would it be an April fools thing if it was in there before? Also it has a red moon iirc.
Could Ariad be the leader of CNS?
how to redeem skin given by discord
How do I get the free discord pet?
I actually managed to take a screenshot so it might just be in a specific game mode
Here's the link https://imgur.com/a/ISwDdVU its a little tricky to see because of the filter but its easier to tell when you compare it against the screens
But maybe it ended
Iâve seen it before. Itâs something that wasnât recently added though. Like I said before it also has a blood moon as well. Which is suspected to be an EE.
Oh sorry, I had only ever seen it as a red moon
I personally thought CNS just hacked The Finals as some sort of prank. They give DedSec vibes
I mean, if it was a real hack, it wouldn't be "we change the game", it would be "we broadcast lewd videos 24/7"
what is the lore?
Thereâs a wiki pinned.
whatevver happened to look beyond the walls
"what is the lore?" favourite phrase
there is a free discord "Pet" ??
I don't think so, they've gotta be talking about the skill issue set
why do we fight eachother for AI ish entertainment (the audience)
i think they are real
The announcers are voices in my head. Is this canon?
I am hearing Scotty whispering "Ospuze" in my Head. I hear also voices
weird music when loading maps
Wow, the lore channel has really gone down.
You guys know there are other channels for your questions as well, right?
Roundhoundblack
I think Scotty is a stalker. Either that or my schizophrenia is acting up because I always hear a distant voice whispering âwhat a play!â Into my ear whenever I try to sleep. I havenât slept for 4 days because of it. Is this also canon?
Bruh I be chilling and out of nowhere hear the cashout box music playing
hi
Too much
can cause these symptoms
What if the cns hacks or glitches lead to us getting stuck in the vr world permanently or sum
@gentle bronze I'm already stuck....
Real
Guessing horizon map was originally going to be a completely different map in development for but CNS hijacked and took control of it?
That's my guess too
yeah thatâs what i think we assume, considering it gives off a sort of unfinished vibe w the voxels
Do you think any of the companies that sponsor the finals are evil?
Didn't think about that
Like we literally sign our contract with OSPUZE in INK on our skin
Does rhat mean they own us? Lol
But my question is what the freak is VAIIYA doing. They're in charge of antihack but they can't even stop CNS
đ i thought that meant they were the hackers trying to dp something to the show
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Is CNS a sponsor or the hacking group
Group
Maybe VAIIYA is evil and thats why CNS is hacking the show?
I need help all I can here is the cash out alarm thing
What if cns are the good guys đ¤Ż
Currently they have no motive so why would they randomly hack a game show?
Maybe too coz in the cut scene Ariad said "We are the cns and we are here to change the game"
Well Scotty and the girl said its for fame bc they only do it during the big games
Why do that when you could do other stunts though?
Idk
Exactly there has ro be a reason!
What happens when they win the finals??
Wdym
Like where real ppl in the meepworld (real-world) and in the finals the vr world what happens when they win
Like do they get money
Yeah
How do we know?
The announcers tell us
Oh ok
Only the people in first do though
All others dont keep the money they cashed out with
For sure
It's very similar to hunger games and black mirror
Yeah i think so, they even let their players play while heavily intoxicated
In one voiceline from scotty he says he was seeing weird things after chugging a bunch of ospuze to pregame
Hmm
So we know that ospuze is an alchoholic energy drink
Yep
The sponsors control everything
I fr think 1 or more is evil
Multico controls everything
However what if CNS was made by a good company that sponsors the finals to get the evil companies out?
supposedly
Ospuze mighty be evil
I still don't get the point of having insurance in a vr world tho
I thought that was a joke voice line were they being serious?
Yh one of the sponsors is an insurance company
đ which company?
Keep them addicted to playing the gameshow so the sponsors can keep making bank
Holtow
What if on top of alchohol there is an addictive substance in it like coke?
Alchohol is an addictive substance
That actually makes sense cus one of there ads said pop.pour.perform
I mean even more addictive like how cocacola used to have actual coke in it
Holtow
they probably don't necessarily ensure only the digital assets, but the investments on the game show and such
Weed would be more plausible idk how well cocaine fares in a presumed fizzy drink
It could be an imaginary substance for all we know im just sayin
Ospuze could be bad cus remember in one of the voice lines Scotty says it's time for an ospuze and the girl seems a bit shady we she says do you actually drink those
Element 344 Ospuzendabite
Exactly
Meth like crystal used to make contestants addicted to cashing out
My fav Ospuze theory lol https://padlet.com/suitablyodd/ospuze-is-gamer-pee-pj8uskvnux4hik1g
Holtow is ruled out they can't be evil cus june says they don't run the show they sponsor it
June, the other commentator is June
Alr ty
Whereas other times they say the sponsors control everything
Which sponsors
Is Argon a new sponsor
What do they do?
Idk I saw it in the Vegas map
not every brand you see in the arenas is a sponsor
Wiki with the list of what could be the future sponsors and current sponsors : https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Sponsors
I just saw it on someone's fanart and they said it was a sponsor
Trusting fanart over the wiki?
Makes sense
I believe you now
Im heading out chat, this was fum
[ One night. Three dawns. see the signs ]
Romance dawn?
?
It just something the cns said
[ Seek the truth beyond the walls ] outside the arena?
This has already been found before launch
If we knew it would be on the wiki
That's why we need to figure it out
My guess it was a reference to the new map.
it relates to the EE hunt - i think we have a thread for it
(and for all of these type of clues for that matter)
Are ARC running THE FINALS?
Or Survivors in Speranza?
edit: baseless theory
not this again đ
To me the CNS outfits/skin in the battle pass seems out of place. Not really fitting the theme of any of the others in game. Probably hinting the real world being vastly different than weâre led to believe could be fit the theme more with Arc raiders. Have to wait and see though
Hell yeah, this theory must live on!
CNS = Discovery Corp?????? đ¤ (most likely no but still an interesting thought)
I think X7//AV is a brand from a scandinavian/very cold country
Hi guys
I'm new here
I wanted to askk
Which corp is Discovery corp and VAIYA
VAIIYA*
We think that Discovery Corp makes the virtual guns in THE FINALS.
And VAIIYA is a cybersecurity company
In the "Introducing Season 2" tab, it said VAIIYA Sponsored this season ....so does that mean That VAIIYA are helping CNS or have a CNS intrude
I think that VAIIYA will try to remove CNS in the coming weeks but that's just a theory. They may even unhack the SYS$HORIZON map
And I'm also confused as to who ARIAD is.....it's a skin in the last level of the battle pass (ARIAD , CNS)
And remember the bunny we found on Seoul?
The same bunny is a body paint in the Bunny bash Event
Yeah we don't know much about him, except that he's part of CNS
The WR is a inside joke between 2 people at Embark. And I think it's also somehow part of the lore.
Here's more info about them https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/In-Game_Easter_Eggs#White_Rabbits_(WR) (We are still looking for 1 more on Seoul)
If you wann join the hunt feel free to ask any questions here https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1011929497139953744
There are several easter eggs hidden in THE FINALS itself, some found and some still undiscovered.
The day before Closed Beta 1 went live, content creators were able to post footage from an event. Creators mentioned the view from the top of the crane in Seoul, and Rob commented âyou can see a WR from there.... ._.â and âjust something for you to...
Thanks
Thats canon, yes. schizophrenia is a part of the game.
Aw man 
Disney is behind all of this
Disney already put all their eggs in fortnites basket
thx
Ospuze tastes like shampoo
ĂRF!
Does ospuze taste like lemon?
Pro juice
Does ospuze make u better at the finals
Maybe CNS is the creator of the finals because they wanted to see how other players try to win the game since they created new maps and gadgets and guns(maybe)
Testing out these weapons and gadgets before mass-producing them for the military
Who wants to bet they'll add real brands to the game if it gets big enough
monster energy is gonna have the finals code on the can to redeem a animation to drink monster
Red bull would definitely get in on that first
Red bull has been partnering with a lot of content creators would be dope
@trail wren #easter-eggs message
They have been popping up in my feed a lot recently. Marketing is going off
I could see Adidas wanting to join
who is the dev that made it to the update, when you fall off the map and use the goo grenade you still move and die instantly
they released a new skin for you recently.
woah ?
so funny
that's what i mean that's wasn't in the new updates
this is not lore.
ok also they made those skin for you
lol I didnât realize that the finals has loređ
What is the lore? Whereâs the wiki? I need to fall down this rabbit hole tonight
what? there's lore?
yep i shoot u and u shoot me
and i think theres some some other stuff.. but i dont know too much about it
were in a program of someone or somethings creation, not our real bodies
Curious to know if the season is over if they tackle the CNS hacking, and if so will they keep the Sys Horizon maps and CNS themed gadgets and abilities . I ask this because I remember Embark saying Recon Senses could eventually be reworked to return, but given it has been replaced by Demat for the time being, and gadgets have been shifted across classes.. is it possible that we would face removal of the CNS themed stuff on the next season since lorewise it would make sense if Multicorp eventually plugs security holes? Followed by them possibly returning under new names in the future to distance them from CNS origins
Mayybe not necessarily changing names given it is clear that traces of Discovery corp's name are around the game
Why when I enter the game it says system integrity violation?
It doesn't make sense for the current narrative to just have CNS be "fixed", currently we're looking at more "holes" appearing in the simulation as other players change up the status quo, if CNS does get booted out it'll be in season 5+
the problem is, there are always people crying about something, either to nerf, buff, or removal of smthg interesting like the dead go boom event etc
I will say I agree with this, nerfs and buffs aren't always necessary, and as @bronze tree just said people always complaining about things instead of just playing the game
embark devs are having a hard time understanding their own community :/
To me nukes are no different then an rpg or being blasted by a dual wielding grenade launcher team
^
guys this is the lore channel 
People will always complain either about something being op or how ranked is shit because they get matched with a lower tier player, just shut up and play the game, it will never be perfect
@trail wren this is lore, community lore lol
wait, there's lore?
I only really chat in this channel, I love the lore and haven't seen updates of it really lately, the other channels I can never get a word in or it's just toxic people complaining about what we just talked about
Lore is where it's at
everytime that bf3 guy spams the same thing looking to upset someone, I just report it
literally said the same thing like 8 times now
listen lady, i dont just 'spam' the word. i talk and send messages or type it out every once a day. reporting it sounds silly and a bit too much which kinda hurts my feelings, but hey i think i hurt yours first so i guess we're even
(my feelings arent hurt. im alright hehe)
anyone know what the guitar inscription says? Signature something
Signature Edition
ah that makes sense
Lore?
We all got lore
great vids man
neat
Ayy but no lore will ever come close to Fortnite lore
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fortnite lore was good till chapter 2
whats the lore of the finals
Is there any lore on what each sponsor does? Like is Ospuze an energy drink company?
I get that Fortnite has become a much bigger game since chapter 1 but all they care about now is collabs
Fax pretty annoying
look at the lore section of the wiki
there is info on all of the sponsors on the wiki
Awesome preciate it!
Wait, there's lore? 
I didnât know either lol
Skibidi took over
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Mascots How do we know that Nama Tama's name is a combination of Friend and Egg (Nakama and Tamago) and not Raw and Egg (Nama and Tamago)? Was it a part of the pre-release promotional stuff?
Y'all sayin there's lore to this game?
wait, there's lore?
Hey guys , anybody know what the X7IIAV corp does?
They sponsored the steal the spotlight event and the The three class bundles in the store right now
I recommend you watch SPEAR's video on YouTube about the lore of the FINALS to get upto speed
My honest reaction
I'm waiting for mascots and background lore of Moolah and Nama Tama.
Yep that's literally it yup
makes sense
pretty sure if you search for it on the server youâll find it. many things were discussed ages ago so 
âwAiT tHiS gAmE hAs LoRe??????? đ¨đ¨đ¨â
so trve
There are cracks on the buildings
so is this hacker group was serious or it just a show from the game lore point?
you know, it was shown like they hacked the game but then just lead to "lets have some fun"
also, would be cool to see a new late-game event with some hack errors on the map, like program bug-holes where you can drown too if you step into it
would be really thematical with the new season hacking theme instead just mixing of space-invaders retro theme with a hacker theme
So actually it is mix of hacker and retro theme in this season... very weird because they both are cool but retro is about skins but hackers only about new abilities
Eh, the theme seems pretty coherent to me. That old school hacker scene was definitely intertwined with other nerd stuff, be it video games or tabletop rpg's. The synthwavey aesthetic ties it to a time period nicely.
Looking at those intro videos with Scotty and June talking, CNS is definitely made to seem like a real threat more than a in-universe marketing campaign of sorts.
In the trailer cns said they were there to change the game, idk if they have destructive motives towards the game or what but with the videos speaking about Sophia it def seemed to be more of exposing the games or sponsors of something
I think they set the bar high doing hacker theme, where do you go from here
And who knows what vaiiya has been doing to block cns either, I hope the keep the hacker theme going for a few seasons, I hate how each season in other games have a whole new theme, just build and rock with the hacker theme for a few seasons. So much you can do with it. I would love some skins based off the hacker movie that came out in the 90's with Angelina Jolie in it
The plague light skin on a skateboard lol
People speculated medieval theme there was that namatama in space wearing a knight helm picture that got discovered
Space knight? Lol
ye, itâs #easter-eggs related
is discussion of datamining allowed on this server?
No. https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1009828940052975656 Rule 9
No talks on piracy, leaked content, cheats, or exploits.
gotcha, thank you
just curious, what if it isnt for the purpose of leaking/exploiting?
there are some models and specifically some PNGs that I want access to for a potential cosplay :3
do we know what cns means by  seek the truth beyond the walls  or  see the signs  ?
Hasnât been revealed yet. Which imo is a good thing the more the mystery then the more the intrigue in the gameâs story and the game itself. But so far, there is something beyond the virtual world of the finals that contestants arenât privy to. Whether or not that reality is as dark as the matrix or not we donât know.
the lore is too deep lmao thanks
True đ
this game has lore now? lmao
this channel should be renamed to
#lore (yes this game has it)
lore has it that light was supposed to have 200 health
what would Scotty's favorite gun have been
do we even know which build he played?
Flamethrower, itâs goofy
Based on the achievement and the to do list sticker he was the ultimate rat.
Invis stun gun light who uses sword/xp54?
A sword player would not be running the cloak.
If they ever revealed more about scotty's contestant days, I have a feeling he'd use a pretty generic weapon. and he would either be a light playing M11 or medium playing AKM.
Scotty deffo would be medium or heavy
Nah, he's a heavy who loves Ospuze 
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wait theres the finals lore?!?!?
since when, i just joined this server and i am just now figuring out theres lore
there will always be lore
... well would ya look at that lmao
My bad, invis xp 54 and dash sword
Is CNS watching the tournaments? đŽ
Looking for worthy recruits perhaps đ¤
Or Hackers to hire?
German hacker đ§
June: 'in order for CNS to earn some fame, they'd need to compete... JUST LIKE YOU SCOTTY'
Scotty is apart of CNS and got his fame through CNS
that does not make sense
Scotty is just a contestant.
or is he?
in order for cns to earn some fame⌠theyâd need to compete⌠so scotty wouldnât have gotten famous through cns he got famous through competing. Also just means he was a contestant
or did he hack his fame?
I donât think he hacked his fame? The achievement âJust like Scottyâ points that he got more than 11 eliminations without being eliminated himself. So maybe he won and now is undercover for CNS?
He cheated with stuff from CNS and got fame trough that!
Or what if He hacked with some Volpe stuff?
He asked in the Beginning of the Game Start for mackanzie Lapis (CEO of Volpe) for a pre release of something and talked about that with june.
Hoping they do something with the lore soon. Weâre hooked
I think the hosts are past winners who were essentially immortalized by having their digital selves copied
Is Nama Tama a tamagochi? With the similarities in the name, the simple and friendly design and the digital theme I think Nama Tama is a tamagochi
There is a similarity in the name because tamago is japanese for 'egg'.
Am not sure what Nama is short for but "Nakama" is japanese for "friend" or "buddy"
Egg friend my beloved 

Eggo lore o.O
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Nama Tama is supposed to be short for both Raw Egg and Friendly Egg
Its explained here #âĄâthe-finals-chat message
Well Ărf! has a Tomagachi like device in the battlepass and Ărf! and Nama Tama are supposed to be in the same world so it could be possible they are within the Ărf! game as well
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ummmmmm yo guys wassup can I send a clip on this
What would season 3's theme be; what could happen after CNS takes over the finals
Maybe we get some lashing back by the corpos who run the program? Or maybe CNS finds some evil plot inside the code that must be stopped
Whatâs the lore?
Space medieval
Scotty and june voices are done by ai, but what if that was meant to be taken more seriously in terms of lore. The finals is a simulation, after all,so what if scotty and june really were ai??
why tf everyone flamin people for not knowing this game got lore
like im sorry i dont got the time but chill đ
where the heck is CNS? i thought they were trying to pull attention away from the games, surely by now there'd be a twitch clip of some big match seeing an easter egg or smth right? Those startup videos from the 1.x patches highlighted "the big matches" and how "it's not random", but I dunno how to interpret that.
what is lore for
dope
what is lore
baby dont hurt me
Hello everyone, has anyone tried to make an Easter egg on the new map, with dolphins?
If you'll excuse me, I use a translator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcM3vYlmQEM you mean this?
An Easter Egg that unlocks dolphins swimming and leaping near the shoreline of THE FINALS SYS$HORIZON map at sunset has been solved! Here's how to unlock the Easter Egg for yourself, and what it means for the ongoing Easter Egg puzzles in THE FINALS.
00:00 The Sunset Dolphins Easter Egg
0:39 Where The Sunset Dolphins Easter Egg Came From
1:45 H...
what did they mean by this
another ingame event happening probably
wtf
Lore provides context to why this game show is happening, narrative basically
this is LORE
Shut it nerd
My lore take on this game is, the light is like a stray cat so scared gotta go invis to hide from the bad guys the medium can't work by himself so he has to make sure his turret is all greased up and ready to go and heavy is just a fat bolder that breaks everything tryna food, deadass on hood thanks for my Ted talk ps. give me the ceo position or you're all fired on hood cuh
Did not know finals had lore. W
W lore, s1 was great
It was
I wish I had all the stuff I got from beta though
Seems like itâs got some rly cool potential for it too
Yeah totally
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They started writing the lore 3 years ago iirc.
Thats crazy. Itâs gonna be so sick
Go complain on #âĄâthe-finals-chat
I was talking about the general fanbase
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thats a crazy story
I feel like scotty and June arenât real 
Naaaah I think either Scotty or Sophia are lying. Because on the wall was a writing âS is lyingâ to someone about The Finals, Iâm asking myself the whole time what has Odelia to do with these things or is she just a random girl in the Finals competitor universe đ¤
the finals is organised by rich people they want fun thats why they made the finals and they are trying to find the best trio in the finals but bcoz of this they are abducting players against there will and bcoz of that poor family cant live with there family members and CNS is like robin hood of the finals world thats why they hacked so gov can know whats going on behind but ( why cns sponsored the finals ) ? maybe the sys horizon is a glitch map so players can escape the matrix or maybe the player who are playing with vr glass don't have memory of outside world and they cant directly dc them from headset thats why they mad sys horizon so they can know the diff btw real and vr world xD all of this is my imagination
you feel wrong
I canât even feel myself bro
dont worry bro everything will be fine
I miss her broâŚ
have faith in yourself
become gay or something idk any other fix as of now
Oh wait yeah the game. Nah yeah hackers are gonna reveal something soon I hope
she deserves better man
YOUâRE SPONSORED BY OSPUZE NOOOIOOOO.
I WONT LET YOU TRAP ME IN VR
drink ospuze and feel heavenly
ospuze vs redbull
ospuze
wheres ospuze rb20 rival
WHAT ARE YOU PUTTING IN THE DRINKS
Mescaline
a pinch of (-----) no one can know this
do you feel the energy running in your body after drinking ospuze ?
I feel a bit quirky when i get off vr from contesting all day 
I want a dark history type of lore for nama tama.
Besides Scotty who else was a highly well known contestant?
Scotty went to Alaska and thatâs why when we go into a game you sometimes see the sun cs at the angle of the sun is the same as Alaska if you google it you can see that from the ground looking up the sun shine so Scotty is good in the cold so thatâs a hint thereâs gonna be a ice map
W lore
I can only think of Odilia
other than that i can't think of any. odilia made her appearance with some bodyguards from the 'shadow flock', for example, but those are not 'well known contestants'
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it's also possible that Ariad, CNS competed at some point, before or after he started hacking.
I miss this season by a butt hair.
It gives players her face too right?
You mean you didn't quite complete the battle pass last season?
and, yes, it does.
I didnât get into the game until this season. But I played it on launch
Big mistake. Iâve been addicted ever since
Is that why it sounds like his balls shriveled up inside of him this season?
Exactly see you get it
Guys if you watching the battlepass background there are in each area different pictures behind the player. There is a message about some president of a sponsor
And in season 1 June said âHoltow digitally ensured, virtually securedâ. But in season 2 it got hacked, so itâs a direct attack against holtow from CNS
And Scotty then said âBut even Holtow canât protect our contestants from some tricky surprisesâ
Lmao, peak lore
Guys hear me out, there is a sentence about: â1 night 3 dawnâ, maybe itâs referring to the Tournament in one of the maps.
Cause itâs a total of 4 rounds and in each round itâs 1 âDawnâ until the Final this is the âNightâ
I mainly think itâs the las Vegas map or it could be the $ystem$ map cause they hacked Holtow or they work together with Holtow to stop the finals.
Is there a lore reason why Scotty sounds different this season? Is he stupid?
Is there a video explaining the lore?
perchance 
yes there is.
search "spearheadpr" on YT
Kk ty
THERES LORE!?
No not this again
you tell me
sigh doesnât hit anymore đ
Iâll have to check it out
there's WHAT!?
I would pay big bucks for a animated film
But CNS gave us new content though...
Season 1 was okay, but CNS suddenly hacked Finals on season 2, and the glitch we saw back in season 1 could be from CNS. What if it takes a former Finals worker to leak the files for CNS to invade.
Only in ohio
"Volpe's tech let them in" + "L Lies"
maybe Lapis is conspiring and put a backdoor in 'The Finals'?
Well someone at Volpe must be working for/with CNS
CEO of Vaiiya
This is the new bundle in the store?
Yes
âScoria is a pyroclastic, highly vesicular, dark-colored volcanic rock formed by ejection from a volcano as a molten blobâ
yep
Sal volcano rock
The red variety of scoria (it also comes in black) is commonly used as landscaping pebbles at Taco Bell
THIS IS 100% LORE RELEVANT
anything new after the update with the lore?
New cosmetic descriptions might have new lore information and this video #đâlore message

Finally New Lore Video đ
more like a teaser than ânewâ lore but at least we got something w/ the bundle
is it possible that volpe is totally working with the cns not just 1 person?
hey do yall know how can I rewatch the intro? I missed half of it since game started minimized
Hereâs a recording of it #1227557923152990208 message
thank you
just double checking, arc raiders and the finals are in the same universe right
Everyone else find it werid how the arenahas built in waste management/disposal and now security?
whats that device shown in the new cinematic? there's a terminal-looking thing and im curious to see what it is
no. that's just a theory
Better yet, why are the contestants the ones filling those roles?
representing those roles doesn't necessarily mean fulfilling them
CAN someone help me on the finals to move up ranks on the finals my name is shootmaster11 i will be on tommorow 7pm great britain time
Maybe it's a reference to the video with the guy that made up TTS scotty and june
Fair enough, but if the games needs waste removal and physical security, why give out their costumes to the contestants.
Idk, I just find it weird how the vr games need stuff like that
it could be simply mimicking aspects of the Meatspace and that doesn't mean it's necessarily used in the VR
It was a guy playing and the announcers would occasionally say word things and he was reacting. Was that fake?
yes. that's fan-made
It was so good
yep that's exactly what i was talking about
93r r trash
wondering
do contestants play the finals remotely or at a hq?
I would love a Taco Bell sponsorship in this game â¤ď¸
Anyone recorded the new lore that just dropped i wanna watch it again
How do I find that?
So volpe being involved, what are we thinking about when it comes that?
Yeah letâs hope itâs for the better of the game and not for anything bad
yeah
Iâm curious how MultiCo is responding to all this, since they seem to be the owners of the show. Obviously theyâve hired VAIIYA for security, but I wonder what else they might know
maybe cns is planned by MultiCo
wait.. what if CNS doesnt even exist and MultiCo just tries to do an experiment with us how we would react if the finals is getting hacked?
For some reason that seems unlikely to me, why would Scotty be wigging out like he is if MultiCo is doing this. Yeah he was just a contestant at one point but he had his whole heart in the show. Why would he be upset about it?
hi guys, can someone explain me things that we know about the lore ?
What are you wondering about?
just read this chat
Does anyone have a video of the lore intro? I accidentally booted the game and I missed it
"Sounds like you don't like the idea of a little change" June has gotta be a CNS sympathizer
Stress tested by inside white hat hackers
yep
i just wanna know what OSPUZE is supposed to taste like lol
it taste smth like a mix of fanta wirh more orange
I donât like you
NEW FINALS LORE? LETS FUCKING GO
ayo which employeer did this?
Best theory on Ospuze! đ
Recommend energy drinks
15 years ago I'd recommend Sobe essentials pomegranate
I think cns is in some way related to volpe just cause the wording on the new cutscene
The tech âlet them inâ like they had already been authorised
So unless theyâre direct sponsors in the database they probably just are volpe in some way shape or form
any idea on what this company called X7//AV specializes on? just tactical gear or more?
does anyone know if that live action CNS teaser released awhile b4 s2 was canonical to the story?
I think they're just an endorsed fashion brand in the lore, but I could be wrong.
because I'm p sure X7//AV also made the black bunny jacket, cuz it has similar vibes, which wouldn't really fit with the whole tactical gear hypothesis.
Wasnât the new tactical fit a vaiiya plug
it is
X7//AV will probably just be a virtual fashion brand then
tech wear specifically
Just making outfits for the different sponsors n shit
I speculate maybe the suit jacket is also by X7//AV, considering it would fit an overall identity and style consistently
but viinya I feel is responsible for all the combative focused cosmetics we can obtain, considering they're a literal embodiment of "cyber security"
hold on, wait, does volpe produce haptic feedback tools in the meatverse?
wouldn't that insinuate that your contestant would actually feel some sort of "pain" in the virtualspace?
would explain why people can taste ozpuz, why the gas makes our contestants cough and wheeze, and could also explain why zooming so close to your contestants face you can hear their faint breathing
the constant is as alive in the virtualspace, as they are in the meatverse, I just don't know how thin that border between is
You know, VAIIYA reminds me a lot of SABRELAKE from the Boneworks games. Both are security companies hired to secure and protect against digital intrusions of VR spaces.
It was that easy all along
message redacted
dk what to tell you
mb. i need my OSPUZE
Live action as in the one in Embark's office
which I'm not really going either way on, since I don't think we're supposed to go deep on the lore implications of that one đ
maybe CNS really did sneak behind some Discovery/MultiCo workers tho
RIP in piece to the one who tripped on a rogue can of OZPUZE đđŤĄ
i meant lore vignettes from the game
as in, the cutscenes we get every now and then with updates
i missread the original msg, but i don't think that "live action" one was canon
Yeah, just wanted to answer that guys original question
This new lore is very juicy
the lore vignettes are definitely canon, (but I believe the visuals in the vignette are just for players, not CNS POV)
thought that was implied but i guess it's worth noting 
Who are VAIIYA?
Well there was a point going around pre-S2 that these vignettes were canonically being shown to the contestants ingame
but I don't really think so
theres a but?
cybersecurity experts, sponsoring S2
Cybersecurity company, probably sells antivirus or whatever
Cause Volpe aren't security, they just made the VR work
Hmmm true
I wasn't at my computer for the video when you update the game, where can I watch that video?
VOLPE's tech isnt that strong then if they can just hack into it that easily
baller, thank you
I'm a baller 
Or maybe CNS is very strong
nuh uh
or they have insiders who gave them a backdoor, or ways around it
So they kept the show going just because the views and rating went up
It was always going to keep going, but playing along with the new content specifically
but yeah $$$ over ethics đ
,m
I hope VAIIYA doesn't press the restart button on the emulation
Yo is vaiyya new
No been in since start of S2
Oh dam didnât notice
I absolutely love this game and all the lore to it. It makes me so happy to see this game thriving especially how I just took a break from this game.
What's going on with all the i"s in the community rules?
roman numerals
ahh
Do you guys feel as if the contestants are just OCs and are nothing alike the real contestant from the real world?
i just logged in to the Finals for the first time today and figured the lore channel was going nuts
Ig not really lore but why is this sort of watermark always present in stuff like the in-game sponsor ADs, the in-map billboards, the weapon default textures and other stuff?
using our embark names has to be lore related
or are we being branded as a sort of A/B metagame
Is the S in S lies known for certain who it is
Cause I was his say it could be the new CEO, considering they are directly interfering with cns
Hey how are you guys doing?
I'd be willing to bet that CNS has people working on the inside of MultiCorp. It would definitely explain how they put the white rabbits and the s lies messages in the arena.
V happy to see they have more at all. Hope they have big plans for the game!
Me too.
as scotty said in the trailer, i share you my thoughts : volpee is more like a gate keeper sponsor and sounds like Vaiiya is the inner security guys, the last ressort type of guys
Or it would explain how they were able to get in through Volpe's tech, I would wager there is someone on the inside that let them in? Maybe even Volpe's CEO Mackenzie Lapis was in on it?
Those coloured cubes make me think of some food packages which also have the same ones. I'm pretty sure they are used irl to show which colours they used to print on the packaging
looks like the game is dead
tron fan? same!
Its probably June
Guys on Monaco and Skyway Stadium and Seoul the giant led screen are totally black, the show no image anymore
my guy your username? đ
TRON?? WHERE??
Good lore
We all think s lies could be Scotty but in the new cutscene it talks about vaiiya and the CEOs name starts with an s, so maybe s lies could be talking about them. But also in a cns document posted on Reddit it also says L lies. Does anyone know who L could be?
current theory is that L stands for Lapis - from Volpe's CEO, Mackenzie Lapis
S being Scotty was the initial theory, but it might not be accurate with the recent info
That makes sense with the other CEO being S lies meaning the sponsors could be lying about something?
another thing, also in the new cutscene Scotty says "it's getting hard to commentate in the cns arena" and whenever I play sys horizon both Scotty's and June's voice have been more glitchy and cutting out more than usual, idk if this really means anything but it's something đ¤ˇđžââď¸
Cns could be trying to make the game "theirs" by cutting out Scotty and June and cutting out sponsors
Where are you nut cases getting this lore from???
Through cutscenes, and voice lines inside the game from Scotty and June. There's also a cns reddit that has posted lore related things like "S lies" and "L lies" we also found "S lies" on a wall in game (idk where or what map to be exact)
blud does NOT play the game with his eyes and ears open
Maybe they turn away when the game boots up
lol
when i first saw how they showed about "thing outside the walls" and stuff that got me completely wired
it wasn't just a fun game and the lore is much more than I would've ever thought of
i never thought i would ever find a game that i genuinely like after rocket league
i just play shooters cause my friends do but this game is magic
alr time for ospuze bath
"Just like Scotty"
aye guys what do we know about the aliens and the flat earthers. is it all connected
We know what we know
And that is, that the Flatearthers still exist in the Year 2100
Where the Finals Game Show probably plays
People want their story nice and neatly told I suppose while the idea of an ARG is completely foreign to newer players
I've been starstruck by the "thing outside the walls" but it could've been a hint towards the dolphin Easter egg also another thing I'm stuck on is "one night three dawns" I have no idea what it means rn, anyone have any clue yet?
you can check #easter-eggs
we have threads there for this
guys i did share the screen and i putted the code in the finals but i didnt get the skin
so are the shit ton of hackers invading lobbies part of lore now?
Lmao I hope not but I wouldn't be surprised if it was lore related that would be cool ASF
wasnt fun with multiple people just leaving mid way cuz one guy got 30 kills no deaths and a shit ton of cash
I've had a few games like that, I'm more of a casual player and I barley play ranked but when I do ranked is where all the hackers are
welp wasnt even playing ranked at all and got in 3 lobbies like it smh
just lemme do my contracts pleaaaase
Damn bro, I hope the hacking won't be a problem soon in the rare games that I encounter them the round is just awful, it's worse when they sit on the crane and one tap everyone with a sniper đ
I got one tapped by a shotgun from a guy playing light from like 150 ish meters away T-T
but yeah I hope that ban wave falls soon, lobbies are too infested now
Is the arena security skin lore? Because I thought all skins were contestants meaning the arena security could be a contestant or could just straight up be security, but why do we need security. maybe cns is getting too powerful?
make sure to redeem the code here https://id.embark.games/id/sign-in and restart your game afterwards
I think Vaiiya acts as virtual cybersecurity in the same way Holtow acts as virtual insurance. Basically rather than just trying to prevent hacks by CNS, Vaiiya could be acting as an armed security force that can be sent into the arena to eliminate intruders
Ahh that makes a lot of sense, it could be a cover up I'm thinking "S lies" is sal (CEO of vaiiya) and "L lies" seems to be Makenzie lapis (CEO of vople) I'm not sure on the L lies being lapis but if it is then that means the sponsors are lying about something, and maybe hiding something from us
Maybe vaiiya and volpe let CNS in and they are lying
I don't know, S lies is kind of an older clue in terms of what we know about The Finals and it was in the game before MultiCorp brought in Vaiiya to help against the attacks, so I figure that its more likely to be referencing either something that was already in the game when it was originally found or some kind of big overarching plot device that we might not have found yet
In terms of overall importance Vaiiya is only as signifigant as any other sponsor
Has CNS posted anything new on Reddit? I don't have reddit and it doesn't let me look on the web
they havenât
Ahh "if volpes tech let them in, can vaiiya really kick them out" so after multicorp brought vaiiya it helped with attacks until cns? Or has CNS been the ones attacking the whole time
S Lies dates back a year ago, and the MultiCo report brought L Lies. CNS started their hack efforts long before the game launched
also, just for clarification, we donât have evidence that MultiCo actually runs the current game show - that remains a [popular] theory
Can someone give me a quick summary of the finals lore because i have no clue whats gng on
Ahh I see, once we know for sure who s and L are I feel like pieces will just fall into place
iâm keen on the idea that our current plot started back with S Lies a year ago - thatâs why i also lean on S and L referring to CEOs
S lies was also found in game correct?
correct. it was in the metadata of official images and then found in the Construction Yard on Monaco
Ahh okay, I'm probably going to get people together to do a private match and search all around that area for maybe something else, I also want to look in all construction areas to hopefully find something else
Speaking of construction, do we know what they are building in the construction zones, and do we know if they'll ever be built? The layouts of the construction zones don't seem like the normal layout of buildings
Update on the black screen: in all the variations of monaco and skyway stadium we have the giant led screen off BUT i think i might have found something. Let`s start with Seoul. Seoul has one giant led screen on the central skyscraper with the video of the sponsor and similiar giant one are all across the border of the map. They are all OFF. But seoul has other led which can be found in Petronelle Plaza and they are smaller, about human size. They are all on and they show OSPUZE can with the pop pour perform phrase.
in S$S Horizon we have giant floating screen on the skyscrapers and in clear night variant in the red skyscraper we have a glitchy screen with CNS logo but if you wait the image turns into an ospuze can withe pop pour perform logo. In the sunny and sunset variant this screen turn into a simple cns screen with the phrase from cns with love
there is one skyscaper though the GREEN one who has a gigantic OSPUZE AD screen on it no matter the variant
so my question is: if CNS is here to change the game and they have obscured the sponsor, why they didnt obscure OSPUZE?
this is just a speculation but what if CNS is "controlled" by OSPUZE? S LIES: Scotty`s pretending to complain about CNS while we nknow how close he is to ospuze. L Lies: LAPIS MACKENZIE has a deal with OSPUZE and scotty as said in the latest lore video quote " if VOLPE's tech let them in .." OSPUZE AD are the only ones in game right now
but what about VAIIYA, will they discover all of this and get corrupted by OSPUZE? or they are corrupted yet S LIES could refer to SAL SCORIA too
Sorry for the lenght
for anyone who doesnt have it saved
dude it keeps crashing my discord
ok so im not allowed to send the new opening apparently
every time i send it my discord crashes
there we go
The new Pro Circuit mask, store set, and lore vignette means that Vaiiya will be integral to the story. But there are 60 days left in the season, they seem to be dealing with CNS slowly. What is stopping them? Maybe they aren't as strong as the announcers believe...
lore moves really slow in THE FINALS. give it time
I mean obviously, but there has to be some reason
Perhaps the pro circuit cosmetics are VAIIYAâs elite. With the one in the store being just basic grunts or newer recruits.
there always is. nothing is a coincidence 
probably already been asked but scottys dialogue regarding the SYS$HORIZON map makes me think that there was another map planned (by the in-game creators of the Finals) which was hacked and turned into what it is now by CNS, is there any evidence to support that or am I reading too far into it
you are not, itâs a current theory
esp. after this msg from Stigs #đâmaps message
This is my theory, VAIIYA ARENA SECURITY is coming in to clean up the mess that volpe made allowing CNS to take control of one of their Servers (Sys Horizon. Furthermore the purchaser and issuer of arena insurance are also sponsors of the game. My thoughts are volpe and hollow ceo allowed cans Access so they can make more money on both viewership and insurance claims. Letâs be clear here it was volpes tech that brought CNS in. Will VAIIYA even be able to stop CNS since they hacked the game through volpe (the system the game was built on).
S lies? Could that be Sal Scoria? CEO of Vaiiya
syshorizon has a huge room under the map in the shape of a rectangle.
Still, It could be Scotty since he said 'This will be fun' or smt like that in Season 2 trailer, and his voice changed to something more robotic while at it.
In the game since sys horizon was released you can hear Scotty and June's voices going robotic and sorta cutting out, but I've noticed it's happening more often on sys and the glitching in their voices seems more "violent" in a way
Before when I listened to them talk on sys they'd go robotic and get the end of their sentence cut off but now it seems like it happens in the middle of them talking, and it seems to happen more like they can't say one sentence without it happening
So, what you're saying is, that they just have their voices changed a bit because of the CNS hack, and they ain't got nothing to do with it. right?
Probably, with the new cutscene scotty says "trying to commentate in that CNS arena is driving me nuts" I suspect its because of their voices glitching and cutting out
Nah, Scotty is just Confused by the Map's design
Ahh that seems right
It could be both maybe, the design is hard to navigate and it seems they can barely get a word in, but the maps design seems more likely
He says things like 'We're on uuhhh... Still don't know what this is supposed to be'.
It's funny tho.
Ahh yess I have heard things like that, that seems much more plausible and not as far stretched as it being their voices cutting out
But their voices seem to have been getting worse and worse on sys, idk it could be something or I'm just delusional
Has anyone found more of those little white glitchy spots around?
Scotty's bound to die of cringe. CNS better calm down, I want Scotty to stay : (
I don't think anything will lore wise happen to him, I don't see why they'd do something like that just to put a new commentor or just keep June
Now that would make a good plot, Scotty disappears then June, then we get new "CNS" commentators
I mean, I want to hear about him from the good Old days, back when he was also a contender.
I would love to see that
Why is June (the lady anouncer) so lonely like she always is like wanting friends and asking to be apart of stuff going on lol
Source?
If u listen to her in game
She says like something about getting cut out of her friends inner circle, and say something like there's a lot of people over there can I join
S lies and L lies were confirmed acronyms for Directions to Easter egg white rabbits. We are gonna need a new theory boys. (Fact check me on finals wiki, lol itâs on there, we are off)
so what flavour is Ospuze anyway
EEs and lore are connected, these clues work both ways
You think so? Maybe I mean my theory works around that being part of lore. Long story short I believe this is volpe committing insurance fraud funded by CNS hacking their data which is backed by holtow insurance. This holtow and multicorp hire vaiiya
MultiCoâs report is part of the lore as well as part of the hunt
this is the way it has been since the beginning. EE and lore are connected, except not every EE is lore
But I thought the rabbit Easter egg was telling us "s lies"
Like the dolphins?
we still have to see how those relate to lore but so far, imo, they donât. those are just EEs so far
#âĄâthe-finals-chat message
...CNS has been part of the lore for a long time and CNS will play a big role in the game... BUT that Closed Beta video is not really from SYS$HORIZON... BUT if you look towards the horizon... what do you see...?
that's the shard in london right? definitely an interesting choice..
Yo could someone recap the lore, I didn't even know there was lore
i got you, so basically the skibidi toilets are attcking the camera men, but the cameras developed better camera men to defeat them. The toilet's evil scientist hacked the really cool titan man and speakerhead(which and some of the best cameramen). Thats how fair they are rn.
Real
their the same plot im so serious
yes
And volpe are the camera men or is it the server
well the evil scientist is but yeah you get it
The lore is that when the blackhole event happened in fortnite this universe was created
Also why the fuck we comparing it to skibidi toilet I haven't seen it
It's the most brain rot content on the internet
Wait is that a fnaf movie refrence
yeah ur not sigma
You're making my brain rot
Josh hutcherson
Not cool man
wow
Sigma
yes
Yes
Ready player 1 style dystopian future, campaign mode where you rise up against the creators. Holy fuck skibidi toilet fuck all please god come down and harvest my soul personally this is what now? Oh my I have nothing to say anymore the brain rot is to much between people asking you to fix basic physics with short double barrel to comparing the game to skibidy fuckin toilet. Kurt cobain knows a good snack. Might have to try one myself at this rate when the brain rot is everywhere.
What the hell is happening in here?
idk
The Voynich makes me scratch my head less than the last few messages here.
where is this in the lore?
we donât know
there is also unknown company on Bunnyhug jacket
ye, itâs been there since S0. just havenât documented it because itâs similar to other logos. we can add it
wait theres lore i thought this was a silly little game where we beat the crap outta eachother
Team Fortress 2:
real
Have you guys ever considered that the "Virtual Extension" skins for multiple guns can be related to CNS. I'm pretty sure that the first one appeared after the first CNS glitched intro. My theory is that all the hacking has cause real life to leak into the game and possibly the game to leak into real life. They also appear in the game without any notice, not in the trailers or patch notes
someone might have covered this though
Okay so Iâm new and donât rly know anything abt the lore whatâs the biggest jist of it?
the finals is a VR game show and CNS are people hacking it
there are also some sponsors that do things for the arena, such as VOLPE making the bounce pads.
wheres skibidi toilet in the lore
I think in the next update
less gooo
I think Volpe shaped most of the VR stuff in general since they are the VR company
is "balls" bad?
Yes
i got a message saying balls is bad
Okay.. we now have Sal, Scotty and Sofia as S names.. really helpful for S Lies đ
dont say balls guys
lets try to stay on topic in the lore chat 
there's always #đĽâoff-topic to be fair
I'd like to take this moment to thank our generous sponsors.
#boycottballs
Scotty isn't real. He was invented by the illuminati
Decently likely that him and June are AI, yep
I like to say deranged things like this that are vague enough to cover several outcomes, so I can point back to only the specific one where I was kind-of right later.
But yeah the commentators are AI voices, the contestants are AI voices, but the ring announcer doesn't seem to be. I don't think thats an accident


