#šŸ‘‚ā”‡game-feedback

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hearty scroll
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Is there a plan to catch more players? I dont want this game to die šŸ™

hollow kelp
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we cannot be serious rn

graceful phoenix
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add Quickplay / game mode playlist matchmaking

analog forum
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ban ossen for literally a racial hate crime against white people who beat her friend at the game and she banned them, ban peach as well for threating IRL to the players

lone estuary
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For anyone interested i post my Accumulated šŸ§  šŸ’€ embark support answers.
Really tried everything to get a human revision or at least the reason why I got banned (obviously i never used cheats, bugs or anything like that)

At this point i just give up, burning hundreds of dollars and thousand hours invested into an online game and letting my favorite game die (firstly just for me).

Why would anybody want to play a game from devs who do not care about their player base?

terse rampart
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compact reflector needs a smaller reticle

dot too big tbh

gaunt cliff
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BRING BACK HEAD2HEAD

fossil path
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This is easily solvable with indestructible terrain or wall, Bernal for example has many toggleable walls which act as indestructible, the new map starlight hollow is a great example of how they resolved the flat terrain problem, they just added indestructible rocks which serve as a backup when cover gets destroyed. They need to add more indestructible walls to the maps that are in point break

open elm
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The file is a virus. The same video has been circulating by many users. No cheat provider will offer their cheats free and open like that

eager coral
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In most tact games one of the biggest complaints is audio. I know that players would love to have an option to mute teammates footsteps but we never get that, but a happy medium that would really help players differentiate footsteps audio could be a higher or lower frequency for non teammate footsteps. Not drastic but just a small tweak. Just a thought

obtuse phoenix
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Fix the spawns plz, they were fine before, i hate being spawned 250m away with 30 seconds left on a cashout my team had and its stolen

twilit sand
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nerf dash holy shit. low skill garbage

fresh yew
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Hear me out, bring back head2head, 3v3v3 is too much for some people, if me and my friends realised head2head was going then we would have never quit

keen lily
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42k->30k in 7 days, this game is not real šŸ’€
like I don't care about the rank, but how can I lose literally almost every game FOR A WEEK?!

flat tusk
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Thank you for making the wheel events buyable

still marsh
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THIS WHEEL EVENT IS EMBARRASING played every day and have gotten more golden tickets than actual items lmao what a joke

raw flicker
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Embark give me prox chat so I can scream kind and loving words at the opposition

dull tiger
vital cradle
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lowkey need an option to bind loadouts to gamemodes. getting tired of having to switch things in and out. also wheel bad

old nebula
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Yellow ping only appears to be in rank nd not in other modes, whenever I play qc ND other modes no ping issues but once I start rank ping gets worse lost a lot cuz of it

hazy shore
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add an opacity filter for the objectives/ pings. i cant see what im shooting at if all i see is legs and "vault 4" covering the rest of the body. you just have to guess where there head is

young zenith
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Hello THE FINALS Support Team,

I would like to submit feedback regarding the matchmaking system, especially in Ranked mode.

Iā€™m a long-time player with an account level above 100, and it honestly feels unfair that I constantly get matched with very new players around levels 20ā€“30 on my team. Many of them are still learning the game mechanics and Ranked basics, while Iā€™m being matched against experienced players, which creates very unbalanced matches and ruins the competitive experience.

As a high-level player who has spent a lot of time in the game, I expect the matchmaking system to consider player experience and overall skill more accurately. Right now, the system feels inconsistent and frustrating, especially in Ranked where teamwork and experience matter a lot.

Please consider improving the matchmaking system so that experienced players are matched with teammates closer to their skill level and game experience.

Thank you for your time, and I hope this issue can be improved in future updates.

grim dagger
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winch + autoshotgun is a joke. im sick of this stupid meta.

versed hazel
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game literally refuses to launch unless I click "play"

wild galleon
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Yo devs.... GREAT JOB. Keep up the good work!

Also let's do somethin about smurfs, yeah? I know you are allowed 5 accounts in 30 days, but lets maybe go 1 til the end of time? Two-factor authentication would go hard!

Love you <smooch>

bronze matrix
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Hello, I love the game, this isnā€™t really a gameplay complaint but could you consider going back and separating effects from existing skins like you started doing with ultimate pass effects recently?
I would love to be able to use the heart effect from affection display face with other faces,
also if we could turn off the glowy effects on the new battlepass ultimate skins? Cause itā€™s super distracting and makes it hard to match with anything that isnā€™t an ultimate pass outfit.
Third could you please consider letting us buy the ultimate passes in the legacy battle pass menu? There no real reason to make that exclusive, thereā€™s already plenty of event exclusive content, can we not lock the ultimate content from a battlepass I just couldnā€™t afford at the time? If you just let me I would love to drop more money on that, because itā€™s just so cool, but right now itā€™s impossible for no reason

signal basin
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EMBARK BUY REAL SERVERS FOR THE LOVE OF GODS OR ANYTHING YOU NEED.

The last time I saw trash servers like this was during the release of BF4 ! AND YOU KNOW HOW SHITTY THEY WERE !

fluid pollen
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add party chat so we can talk exclusively to our party without talking to everyone on our team

dark niche
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PLEASE make dagger backstab work like the throwing knives. why isn't there an option to tap or hold

rocky matrix
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double jeopardy mechanic in its current implementation is awful. Either remove it or change it, but keeping it the same is psychotic.

minor star
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Serious feedback on Sword

I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.

First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.

Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.

The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.

So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.

Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.

The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360Ā° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant. The server sided calculation of it has been bugged ever since it got introduced but has never been adressed. In the current season flicking the lunge will still yank back your entire camera and make accurate aiming impossible.

I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course it increases the frustration for alot of people. Hit detection, desyncs and server performance in general should be a heavy focus for you because it is very frustrating and from experience playing with alot of different people a big reason people ragequit or in general leave the game. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.

Changes

M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)

Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 136 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed

Other Feedback

Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.

Small QOL Updates You have so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.

nocturne tendon
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Nerf 93r
Nerf Winch
Nerf Bow
Nerf RPG
Add option to see last matches stats after closing it

long rampart
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Sword is no skill and way to OP. two swings of a sword (you dont need aim) is worth three revolver hits (its very hard to hit). Sword is not that strong in cashout but in tdm its 0_0

carmine crow
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bring back head2head and make it a permenent mode??? the best part of cashout and the best parts of quick cash

surreal sedge
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Nerf light disgustingly hard, nerf dash again idgaf, double light is sick to my stomach boring to deal with every single game past plat 2.

young drum
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  1. Thermal: Why is it taking so long, just make it so you cant see through smoke. Simple fix?
  2. XP: +1 damage, -20 rpm, -.3 sec reload
hearty bough
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Removing the stun on winch entirely feels like a really obvious good change.

If playing near teammates, a successful winch is still basically and instant kill, but it will no longer be a ā€œfree killā€ button in 1v1s.

Even with no compensation buffs (could give it more range maybe), winch is still a top tier pick for cashout manipulation / stall alone.

Itā€™s been bad for multiple seasons in a row, please at least address WHY winch has remained untouched.

Also H Infuser really needs changes to not outclass the heal beam.

Turret needs a full rework, it is sort of fun to use but itā€™s a total throw pick above silver.

DeMat needs shorter cooldown, the 2 charges on 10s cooldown was better than the current 3 charges 20s cooldown IMO.

Giving M an extra gadget slot would be a really cool way to buff the overall class viability.

For melee rework - consider giving melee weapons lots of utility rather than pure combat strength. For example give riot shield a ā€œpushā€ to help stop steals and CC opponents etc.

wanton edge
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Hey there is a shitload of stuff in the shop, wouldn't it be useful to have a searchbar ?

ebon vault
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Just FYI again, landing on the golden ticket on the wheel does literally nothing except eat your ticket. I've landed on it 3 times now... feels awesome...
Just lost out on a whole day's worth of event rewards cause dupe tickets just do not work. Please god playtest your events before dropping them and annoying players

vestal yacht
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Can we sign a petition to remove Starlight Hollow from Point Break?

lunar juniper
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AVOID AS A TEAMMATE LIST

vestal prairie
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Add 5 healing items to each class

bleak gulch
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I would like to revoke my feedback about the HP changes and support it in hope of light becoming less annoying to play against and less ADHD roleplay-like to play as.
Bring back the test with all weapons tweaked!

wispy mirage
frosty sphinx
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Day 8 of sending this till embark gives us back the ranked charms and stickers

Embark please I beg if you see this, taking away the ranked charms and stickers and giving it to the world tour emerald grind track is dumb. taking those rewards away from people that work hard to get to those ranks in ranked is ridiculous. Donā€™t get me wrong Iā€™m all for making everyone feel included and like they have something to be proud of but at least take this into consideration. Give the hexagonal charms and stickers back to ranked and make the casual world tour charms the circular ones that used to be from quick play then everyone gets them and the people who work hard and grind in ranked get all the rewards they deserve and give them something that is universal and that they can put on every weapon/gadget. I donā€™t know about everyone else but I was proud to have hit plat in my 2nd season and was hella pissed when I didnā€™t get a sticker or charm to show off and I can imagine others are too. Again Iā€™m all of making everyone feel included and happy but making it so I have to hit dia in ranked amd world tour and then stop playing so I donā€™t hit emerald if I want the dia badge and then on top of that not getting my emerald isnt fair. PLEASE MAKE THE WT CHARMS ROUND AND GIVE THE HEXAGONAL ONES BACK TO RANKED

Also CHANGE BACK THE RS SYSTEM THE UPDATE IS RIDICULOUS AND DROPS YOU SO MUCH -990 FOR LAST IN MID GOLD WHEN I ACCIDENTALLY QUED IN AND GET MORONS FOR TEAM MATES IS RIDICULOUS REVERT THE RS UPDATE!

vagrant prism
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It would be cool if dagger has a oversized lollipop skin

opaque patio
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give light an actual nerf nerfing a cooldown by 2 seconds doesnt change the fact they have 5 s++ gadgets and weapons to pick from

tall spoke
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Thank you for adding dragons claim Ltm ost to Apple Music but COULD YOU PLEASE ADD THE REST (valentines, blast off, Alfa acta TDM, etc)

flat bronze
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Why the only fucking event is that fucking light weight bullshit that makes it impossible to use dagger ? for real devs, do you guys have a brain ?

maybe remove dagger from the game bro if you cant use your brain, then at least i stop playing this shit

low skiff
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Sword shouldnā€™t have fucking movement attached to it. Fucking most agile class gets a weapon that provides an insane movement tech. As if they arenā€™t agile enough. Dumbest shit ever

supple cedar
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can we get a sex update please?

waxen thicket
# supple cedar can we get a sex update please?

Agreed, we need curvier base models for Light and Medium class, as well as face skins for furries and scalies. Currently only Heavy class has a non-androgynous body, which actually puts off a lot of players. One of my friends literally quit the game over this, saying the character models felt "off".

dusky tinsel
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Delete starlight hollow and Kyoto from the game

native halo
fading nacelle
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How is there no game history tab? I can't check previous performances, win/lose streaks, or even how much ranked rating I gained or lost the previous game. This seems like a fundamental feature to an FPS game.

junior igloo
# low skiff Sword shouldnā€™t have fucking movement attached to it. Fucking most agile class ...

thats like saying heavy shuoldnt have barricade dome or mesh cuz they the fucking most tanky class

@gritty jetty not sure why you think medium has mid specs it has shockwave, demat, heal beam, jump pad, zip, reshaper, glitch trap

Almost everything on med is good (and fun) if you don't like it then that's your problem play another class

Ur basically saying synergy shouldn't exist

@mellow narwhal ah so you're a turret main. that tracks
i think yall seem to forget a few seasons ago when medium was the most op shit ever it wasnt even funny

gritty jetty
warm epoch
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I simply can't fathom why its impossible to get a game from the start with a full team

silver jetty
lapis harness
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The event kinda sucks ether you get a item or nothing at least before every time you landed on two items you already had you got to spin again. Now its just a multiple wasted spins for nothing because you would need to land on the exact same thing 3 time why???

mellow narwhal
dense sleet
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I got paired in WT with a duo that barely has 600 victories, me myself I have over 2000. The other teams? Just so you know that on a team there was a person with over 10.000 victories and other with over 4900. Seriously I donā€™t even care if you fix this pice of trash of matchmaking, just stop lying by saying you ā€œImproved the matchmaking experienceā€

jaunty vapor
wooden atlas
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Dragonā€™s Claim was tons of fun, possibly the best LTM since Heavy Hitters. Only request I have is to lock each loadout to max two per teamā€”playing against a team of all bows is well-nigh unwinnable

dark niche
urban hatch
sour plank
modest osprey
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I would love some kind of recolor option for specific highlight parts of skins. I really like a lot of the skins from the new battle pass, except for the fact that the highlight color is bright green. I would killll to have those skins with a highlight of red instead of green.

dense ocean
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day 81 asking for a free moolah Plushie

muted flower
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I hate ur game ur event gave me gambling addiction please Germany ban this game.

Give heavy's charge n' slam some damage reduction or lil shield to make it more viable.

long flame
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cheater issue is getting out of hand, Asia server is just unplayable, its more worse than the matchmaking system.

cosmic tendon
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Embark needs to start addressing the cheaters in this game, before it's too late

pearl sleet
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Great sword skin for the sledgehammer please šŸ˜«

gilded timber
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starlight hollow needs the peace center treatment, but instead of being locked only to tdm, it should be locked to dragon's claim only, it has no place in tdm or point break

cursive urchin
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Because movement, survivability, and damage can all happen at the same time with minimal commitment, dash removes the need to choose between escaping and fighting. Most other tools in the game force a tradeoff between repositioning and output, but dash lets you do both at once with high reliability.

A low-impact fix would be to make dash always move in the direction of the crosshair, like it already does when no movement keys are pressed. In that state, dash goes straight relative to aim even if you spin during it: https://streamable.com/agly3t

If dash were tied to crosshair direction, that changes:

  • Escaping would require committing your aim away from the target
  • Continuing to deal damage would require committing your movement toward or around the fight

That separation brings back meaningful decisions under pressure. Instead of one input covering multiple problems at once, players would have to prioritise - either disengage cleanly or stay engaged and risk punishment.

Right now, dash collapses those decisions into a single low risk action. Even when caught in the open, it feels tankier than heavy while dealing damage. Examples from pro play: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2746415466?t=3h30m21s and https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2752067545?t=1h54m19s

Adding directional commitment would restore that layer of gameplay without reducing the skill ceiling.

hybrid hearth
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PS5 Everytime I que up a match I legitimately cannot do a fucking thing. I canā€™t answer messages, trim clips, or any fucking thing because it cancels the que. Itā€™s so annoying. Can you please fix this? Itā€™s gotta be a relatively new thing because Iā€™ve only been dealing with it for the past couple of weeks I think and itā€™s just really pissing me off. I thought it was a bug however itā€™s yet to be fixed so it might be a feature?
Anyways, just please fix it. Itā€™s a bug/change thatā€™s beyond annoying.

native sedge
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EMBAAARK, PLEASE ADD AN IN GAME IN GAME MUSIC PLAYER SO YOU CAN SELECT SONGS TO PLAY NEXT, SKIP SONGS, ETC. GRANT ME THIS WISH, AND ALL MY FREE TIME HOURS ARE YOURS.
-Yours Truly, Finalist Chud and Finalist Chud #2 (co-written) @cunning glade

tawny oak
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improve your shit anit cheat, so many cheaters in point break running scripts for headshots and aim lock on.

thorny lynx
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One might assume that this game is infested with cheaters or something?
EMBARK- "Here is another tail skin and gun that goes pew pew"

supple cedar
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where is our sex update?

cyan sable
upbeat tiger
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Fix matchmaking balance, I'm tired of playing at my lvl 40 against lvl 100+

teal obsidian
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Bring back H2H tired of getting no cash from any modes

lament depot
minor star
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Serious feedback on Sword

I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.

First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.

Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.

The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.

So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.

Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.

The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360Ā° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant. The server sided calculation of it has been bugged ever since it got introduced but has never been adressed. In the current season flicking the lunge will still yank back your entire camera and make accurate aiming impossible.

I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course it increases the frustration for alot of people. Hit detection, desyncs and server performance in general should be a heavy focus for you because it is very frustrating and from experience playing with alot of different people a big reason people ragequit or in general leave the game. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.

Changes

M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)

Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 136 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed

Other Feedback

Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.

Small QOL Updates You have so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.

hazy shore
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add an opacity filter for the objectives/ pings. i cant see what im shooting at if all i see is legs and "vault 4" covering the rest of the body. you just have to guess where there head is

rotund rock
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I'm sure I'm not the only person to ask this: The first four maps shipped with a unique arena variation in duck and cover, under construction, highrise, sandstorm. How come we stopped seeing these unique variations?

versed raft
twin helm
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make ranked head2head

warped meteor
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Deeply upsetting to keep getting these store updates with no changes to the game whatsoever.

inner sky
keen lily
polar shell
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SOOOOO many cheaters in cashout it's unplayable rn\

lethal bear
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Yes I thought it would be obvious it is rage bait. But, it does bring up interesting dilemma in that it is meant to help controller players but ends up benefiting cronus users the most. Stronger aim assist in games ends up benefiting hardware device cheaters, and has there actually been documented cases of Embark banning cronus users who didn't out themselves?

proven crown
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Nerf H+ (WHY IS THIS TAKING SO LONG ITS SO MUCH BETTER THAN HEAL BEAM)

Consider making Defib a passive, so the much needed buff to medium would be that they have an extra gadget slot for lower tier, fun stuff like breach drill

This idea of each class having a 'passive' for example gateway on light and C4 on heavy could be a really fun test. I've noticed that your spawn system heavily incentivizes gateway (it's way too strong in that sense) so making gateway a passive could balance things out

hallow dove
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M class should get the awm and H class should get the m82 fake gun names awm SR-115 m82 AM-107 would give photos but cant

oak cloud
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Games ruined by light mele abusers the skill gap between that setup and any other is massive I just can't be a shitter that uses a broken meta so either nerf it or remove it game would be 10x better

brave copper
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Remove defibs so mediums can pick other stuff and so coins have real meaning.

Other wise make defibs a universal revive mechanic, somehow. Like any class can spend a coin for a defib style revive.

In either case use the skins from defib to replace basic revive anims.

And at the very very least let us decline a bad defib and stop counting deaths unless you actually respawn. This would at least handle the toxic aspect of "friendly" defibs.

gritty jetty
stray wing
wide vortex
# proven crown Nerf H+ (WHY IS THIS TAKING SO LONG ITS SO MUCH BETTER THAN HEAL BEAM) Consider...

Literally the only gadget other than gateway that makes light viable for team fights. With WINCH and RPG running strong for how many seasons, medium two shot weapons. You dont really want to nerf light viablity any further or you might as well remove the whole classs @fleet socketIt doesnt reduce the viability of Healbeam either if you have got healbeam & H+ all the better. When I play M I play healbeam and Im just happy if my Light teammate has heal too

fleet socket
sacred compass
waxen thicket
# minor star __**Serious feedback on Sword**__ I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 w...

lol the copypasta spammer is back, here's why they'll NEVER revert sword clamp (again):

  • before the clamp, Sword M2 was absurdly spammy. You didn't need to aim your thrust, just hold M2, release, and shake your mouse/joystick vigorously so that the hitbox is all around you. That ain't intuitive, that's cheese meant to cover for your dogtier aim.

  • In fencing, thrust attacks are realistically seen as a high-risk, high-reward attack, since it gives you a lot of reach and power momentarity, at the cost of being utterly predictable and defenseless during recovery. The current aim clamp is not only reeling the spammy nature of Sword M2, it's also very realistic and whoever added this change did their research on sword fights. Kudos to the balance team for that.

  • Before the M1 buff, it was even more useless than quick melee. 75 damage per swing, you'd need 4 hits on Medium and 5 hits on Heavy to take them out, 1 less with quick melee. With that ttk, using M2 was the only viable method. You think your suggested M1 nerf balances out your M2 buff idea, whereas you never used M1 in the first place because M2 was so cheesy and easy to use. Just learn to aim.

  • 140 damage M2, funnily enough, only changes the ttk on Medium cos Light and Heavy class keeps the same ttk with 120 damage thrust . You want the damage buffed on the thrust because you're so bad against Mediums that you can't even afford to land a quick melee after the 2nd thrust attack and get shredded by them (lol). This small piece reveals everything about you, about how unskilled you are, and sadly, about your inability to learn.

  • You keep spamming the same hogwash copypasta and again and again. You think the devs haven't seen it 100 times over already? All the changes you proposed don't address the core issue for WHY they made the sword buffs in the first place: It had no counterplay point-blank. Just spam M2, dash, repeat. This ain't tricky, this is spammy. Is spamming all you can do? Cos I can too.

sterile canopy
brittle abyss
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Anti Gravity Cube Viability Changes:

Kill Switch - upon deployment it immediately activates like normal but now you can destroy the cube remotely. NO COOLDOWN REDUCTION. Itā€™s simply an option to end the cubeā€™s effects early. Allowing for more strategic stalls and arena manipulation.

I feel like this could add sooo much value. Bad placement? Gone. Teammate caught in it mid fight? Gone. Bunkered up team stealing in air and you canā€™t shoot it? Gone.

stiff hedge
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Dude im so sick and tired of the M11 dash combo

daring fossil
# stiff hedge Dude im so sick and tired of the M11 dash combo

double barrel was basically a hard counter to m11 but too many bad players self reported and complained about it even though 5 players used it. but nope, despite having a 0.1% pickrate, Embark decided to alienate the 5 people that were actually good with the gun and nerf it for the benefit of the greater trash playerbase. (if you do a search in this channel for SH1900 you'll find pages of people asking for it to be nerfed, and then 3 people asking for it to be reverted after the nerf). I would love for Embark to get their head out of their ass as I would like to be able to enjoy this game again.

spring bluff
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can someone PLEASE fix this stupid game. I just got three shot by THROWING KNIVES from full health as heavy.

sweet jetty
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i think APS needs a slight buff to either its range or increase in health, but i think it needs range more than health

round isle
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Host events monthly where different aspect of the game are tested and graded. For instance a shooting competition or a climbing competition, etc etc.

lethal bramble
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nerf sword plssss

rare fable
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Wow

flat bronze
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stop third party or teaming up tactics on ranked, i will stop playing bcs of how frustating that is

astral furnace
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Grenades are very bouncy, seeing as they arenā€™t made of rubber perhaps donā€™t have them bounce more than ~1m . However I do like the cool stuff you can do with bouncing nades so maybe just have this change apply to floors idk.

carmine token
simple ether
cyan crystal
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Id love to see some changed to the ranked rewards, specificly badges. I feel like they look good visually but could use some sort of effect. Maybe add a shine effect on the ruby badges? getting ruby is already pretty difficult and showing this off on your banner makes it more worth it!

old anvil
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Hi i have a feature proposal to pump up the excitement of cashouts underway (quick cash, cashout and ranked play). Right now cashout stations feel very similar when you walk nearby them with no cashbox deposited in them as compared to when a cashout is underway. My proposal is to implement two changes to make them more exciting visually and audibly. First I suggest adding red sirens for cashout stations indoors that color the color the room as if there is an emergency once a deposit is made. The second is to change the current cashout station music for either a dedicated track that builds up tension instead of the current one or to play many of the fast paced excellent track the soundtrack has that currrently play only in lobbies but not in game. These proposals are obviously more suited for indoor cashout stations.

One last point is that these visual effects could be further enhanced (sirens blare more, music sounds louder) for the most dramatic cashouts (double jeopardies, when each team has 10000 cash in quick cash and when each team has 25000 in the final round of ranked and cash out).

hard arrow
pearl cairn
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Grand vault D on Nozomi/Citadel seems really hard to attack consistently. Across several games as both attacker and defender, it seems to be the hardest vault to attack on the entire map, significantly more than other vaults. Its proximity to grand vault A specifically, which tends to be a final vault due to the proximity of Grand vaults B and C and the central jump pad, makes it so that a lot of fights carry over between phases, giving defenders too much motive to only defend D while letting E and F fall. Because of how naturally difficult it is to push the building because of the lack of cover on the jump pads and bridge leading to it, attackers often feel disadvantaged significantly, regardless of if there are other vaults or not. I believe it should be moved either further into the building, possibly where a cashout spawns in the main mode on the top floor, or just moving the attacker spawn slightly further from vault D, incentivizing play at vaults E and F more.

dense wing
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Please fix the ranked matchmaking rule. I'm tired of playing full ruby lobbies on 36k plat

minor star
#

Serious feedback on Sword

I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.

First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.

Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.

The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.

So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.

Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.

The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360Ā° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant. The server sided calculation of it has been bugged ever since it got introduced but has never been adressed. In the current season flicking the lunge will still yank back your entire camera and make accurate aiming impossible.

I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course it increases the frustration for alot of people. Hit detection, desyncs and server performance in general should be a heavy focus for you because it is very frustrating and from experience playing with alot of different people a big reason people ragequit or in general leave the game. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.

Changes

M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)

Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 136 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed

Other Feedback

Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.

Small QOL Updates You have so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.

silent grove
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delete starlight hollow

noble bramble
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Day 6 - remove stun mechanic from winch

grizzled swift
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Earned tickets should be converted to something else when you got more than needed when the event is over. You have earned them.

weary drum
#

It's impossible to tell which friends are actually online and which are not. So many people who are offline are shown as if they are in "Main Menu" for some reason.

winged spade
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Wouldn't it be so good if we could change the background of the game so that we can have that nostalgia kick

blazing cliff
chilly wigeon
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Ranked need some help. there is more embark people in discord then players playing ranked. its so crasy to play and see the rank gap is 30 000 points. like one team is gold and the other is ruby

golden badger
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"The Finals utilizes three anti-cheat systems running simultaneously to combat hackers and hardware modding: Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), Denuvo Anti-Cheat, and Anybrain."
3 by the way THREEEEEEE xD
and non of them do shit : D

fluid mason
serene elbow
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suRSeqyE-uY

yo Embark, you guys gotta address this - i'm not high enough rank to deal with this, but when this dominates the discussion in your game, something has gone terribly wrong for you.

edgy sphinx
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Omg embark I am done with the stupid, pathetic matchmaking of this stupid game, I have been asking and asking and asking to fix it over and over again how hard can it be I am done as a level 80 who has been playing since season 1 of getting placed with level 5's and 10's that don't know how to play this game and go 0 and 20 please fix the matchmaking. Also I have never seen another game with this bad of matchmaking and solo queuing. I have enemies that are 50 levels above me and teammates that are 50 levels below me please fix it omg. ALSO it doesn't matter what mode I play, if it's quick cash, cashout or even the new LTM. You have had 10 seasons to fix the solo queuing and matchmaking and it has gotten arguably worse. Do better Embark. Also I don't mean to be rude to you guys but I just don't like the matchmaking and skmm and solo queuing of this game, it needs to be better.

smoky relic
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The rs gain/loss makes no sense, how come, as a first seed when I win the whole game, I make maybe 1000, typically less, but when im 8 seed, and I place last, I lose 700-1000, it makes no sense, I'm hitting my expected placement in both matches, but the difference in gain/loss is almost 2000, it doesn't make sense, and i seriously hope something is down to address the rs gain/loss system in the near future

stray seal
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The entire class of light should be eliminated from the game. Lights are so annoying and they shouldnā€™t be removed but I hate them with everything in me

keen lily
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ranked is trash for 10 seasons, it's gonna be dead by "your biggest yet" season 12 if you don't do something about it asap guys

dark niche
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winch is so dumb please actually it's stun

regal brook
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we would appreciate if there were some game servers that are on the southern side of Europe because us players from north Africa experience crazy desync

dry canyon
#

Hear me out on this one boxing gloves as a melee weapon/skin. just saying Iā€™d dump money for it

bronze cedar
lament lynx
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the verbal abuse and chat abuse need to get permanent voice and chat bans

quick rampart
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we need to ban the word ā€œyouā€ so that my teammates canā€™t say ā€œyou suckā€ or ā€œwhy didnā€™t you stealā€ or any other form of being berated. I am not going to be harassed like Iā€™m somehow bad at the game.

brittle abyss
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Anti Gravity Cube Viability Changes:

Kill Switch - upon deployment it immediately activates like normal but now you can destroy the cube remotely. NO COOLDOWN REDUCTION OR REFUND. Itā€™s simply an option to end the cubeā€™s effects early. Allowing for more strategic stalls and arena manipulation.

I feel like this could add sooo much value. Bad placement? Gone. Teammate caught in it mid fight? Gone. Bunkered up team stealing in air and you canā€™t shoot cube? Gone.

wild galleon
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Not game feedback but discord server feedback! I get not wanting channels to be spammed by senseless gifs and nonsense across all channels. But let's be realistic, half the conversations in here are questionable at best and as someone who has been decently active for a over a month now, I'm no where near close to being able to embed in any channels other than the main chats. It's as tedious as grinding world tour to emerald! I just want to spread love and laughter in gif form!

novel trench
cursive urchin
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Please consider making IOMMU mandatory alongside Secure Boot and TPM 2.0 for Ranked play in THE FINALS. Advanced DMA-based hardware cheats are becoming increasingly common in competitive games, and requiring IOMMU would help prevent external devices from directly accessing game memory and bypassing anti-cheat protections.

If these protections are important enough for tournament environments in other major competitive titles, they should also be considered for Ranked playlists where competitive integrity matters most. Most modern systems already support TPM 2.0, Secure Boot, and IOMMU/Kernel DMA Protection, especially on Windows 11-compatible hardware, so the impact on legitimate players would likely be minimal while making hardware-assisted cheating significantly more difficult.

Epic Games recently expanded anti-cheat protections in Fortnite tournaments by requiring TPM 2.0, Secure Boot, and IOMMU support to combat increasingly sophisticated cheats. Their announcement highlights why layered hardware security is becoming necessary in modern competitive PC gaming.

Reference: https://www.fortnite.com/competitive/rules-guidelines/rules-library/new-fortnite-anti-cheat-pc-requirements-and-latest-legal-action

versed cloud
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Don't ban smurfs-- instead ban the main accounts with all the items on it.

tacit fulcrum
signal basin
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  • Trash SBMM
  • Trash servers
  • Trash balance
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dusty summit
copper blaze
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Nerf all poke weapons.
Delete the nullifier.
Delete low gravity.

old matrix
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Apparently 'hard invis' is an issue all of a sudden (funny how people just wake up and realize something and the meta and usual complaints evolve). But from the time the game launched, two big counters to cloak have fallen by the wayside (Recon Senses, Thermal Vision), so not crazy there might be an issue. Everyone knows you guys are aware of all these things (ur actual job is to design the game), but full invis when standing still might not be in the spirit of the game if there aren't going to be more hard counters. Harder to implement visually, maybe, but it does feel like cloak should be more like camouflage all the time. At least the cloak players would have to be more selective and strategic where they do stand still and where they blend in better and worse. Again, nothing you guys don't know and are prob actively working on.

surreal sedge
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Why did my solo q game just have a level 36 plat 4 on my team against 2 ruby stacks and 3 diamond teams. It doesn't really matter if I get some pity RS, anyone would rather have an 8 minute headache somewhere else

dense ocean
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day 82 asking for a free moolah Plushie

cloud sun
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Hey Embark, I don't know if this has been said enough: Can you please elobarate on why I; a 32k player, lose 300 RS in a game against 4 Rubys and a Ruby smurf. So the casual player who wants to be good but not pro level is just bait for the top 500 and will never see progression?

hearty bough
# old matrix Apparently 'hard invis' is an issue all of a sudden (funny how people just wake ...

After picking it up a bit this season, cloak actually already works in the way that you describe.

Even when standing totally still for a long time, you are NEVER 100% invisible, there is always a visual distortion from the invis light - which is actually pretty easy to see on a flat background (think most walls on sys horizon).

Against a cluttered background (rubble, bushes etc) it is effectively impossible to see them, but they are never 100% truly invisible

worthy totem
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i know yall need to shit on sword so people dont cry. but can yall atleast fix the hit reg in the lunge.... jesus.

drifting egret
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I wanted to say the spinning wheel thing was the best I have exp.....so thank you

sterile canopy
teal obsidian
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Genuinely why the fuck am I Silver 15K going against a whole lobby of 25K+ .
Fix your fuck ass game, no wonder you lost 2/3rd of player base between Arc Raiders and this

fluid spruce
sonic spoke
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Quick Cash has been regularly going to 4 boxes. nice work on the balance!!

night vortex
# minor star __**Serious feedback on Sword**__ I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 w...

lol the copypasta spammer is back, here's why they'll NEVER revert sword clamp (again):

  • before the clamp, Sword M2 was absurdly spammy. You didn't need to aim your thrust, just hold M2, release, and shake your mouse/joystick vigorously so that the hitbox is all around you. That ain't intuitive, that's cheese meant to cover for your dogtier aim.

  • In fencing, thrust attacks are realistically seen as a high-risk, high-reward attack, since it gives you a lot of reach and power momentarity, at the cost of being utterly predictable and defenseless during recovery. The current aim clamp is not only reeling the spammy nature of Sword M2, it's also very realistic and whoever added this change did their research on sword fights. Kudos to the balance team for that.

  • Before the M1 buff, it was even more useless than quick melee. 75 damage per swing, you'd need 4 hits on Medium and 5 hits on Heavy to take them out, 1 less with quick melee. With that ttk, using M2 was the only viable method. You think your suggested M1 nerf balances out your M2 buff idea, whereas you never used M1 in the first place because M2 was so cheesy and easy to use. Just learn to aim.

  • 140 damage M2, funnily enough, only changes the ttk on Medium cos Light and Heavy class keeps the same ttk with 120 damage thrust . You want the damage buffed on the thrust because you're so bad against Mediums that you can't even afford to land a quick melee after the 2nd thrust attack and get shredded by them (lol). This small piece reveals everything about you, about how unskilled you are, and sadly, about your inability to learn.

  • You keep spamming the same hogwash copypasta and again and again. You think the devs haven't seen it 100 times over already? All the changes you proposed don't address the core issue for WHY they made the sword buffs in the first place: It had no counterplay point-blank. Just spam M2, dash, repeat. This ain't tricky, this is spammy. Is spamming all you can do? Cos I can too.

supple cedar
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embark. this cannot go on for any longer. i've supported this game since season 1, but it cannot go further without a sex update.

soft topaz
#

Like what

proven crown
#

Moving platforms design is a joke. I clutched up with a sniper today, wiped the team got the res, start running the box, jump on platform AND I GET STUCK INSIDE THE FUCKING SIDE OF IT!? Couldnt vault, couldn't move and I could see box held in front of me through the fucking wall, so I throw towards station and box ends up behind me in the abyss. Lost the game.

EMBARASSING that as developers you can't see when something SO OBVIOUS is broken and should be removed from the game. Moving platform breaks the flow of a game even more, in a game with shit spawns and timers too short already. And you leave this buggy mess nobody wants IN RANKED!!?

Stuck in doors, stuck inside platforms, goo still so incredibly inconsistent, h+ WAY too strong - BUT THANKS SO MUCH FOR MORE SKINS AND NO BALANCE AND BUG FIXES

old minnow
#

Buff the wrecking ball

white pine
#

Elo system is still super wack, we shouldn't be this skill diverse in silver this late into the season.

Genuinely feels like nobody is dropping or climbing

echo saffron
#

cars are useless

lofty tundra
#

can we please add more voicelines to parlay to make it unique like the other unique voices have

junior holly
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you guys do nothing about the rampant cheaters and smurfs. this was my favorite game but im done supporting this crap. i will never purchase another game made by embark.

torpid quarry
#

Buff defib

quasi kraken
hexed topaz
#

**Hello Embark crew, can we please have the very basic features of ** Naming and moving our Contestants **please. Would help a lot with organisation and making builds, as well as in the future when there might be more options! Appreciate you, would love to see this implemented as I feel like it could have been from the start honestly. Thanks!

Please put my ultimate battlepass and 2 skin packs towards this.**

cold bolt
#

make vaults despawn at overtime like before

make double jeopardy require holding to steal with box in hand

also remove aim assist if above diamond in ranked

deft rain
#

Texxxt me if you need help with some safe lineups I got more of em right away

faint sundial
#

smurfs in ranked is a serious epidemic right now, half a lobby full of low level blank accounts. Lost 2k RS in 4 games.

Make the game p2p or put in a further restrictive registration. It needs to be done.

formal jasper
#

I've been having a cheater every game I play

pure solar
#

can you guys stop making me have to carry dog shit players id appreciate it

summer yoke
#

Loved this game since s0 and its been ruined by smurfs and cheaters. And Embark continues to do nothing about it. same shit that is plaguing arc pvp. Embark, do better. Focus on anticheat and real QOL updates instead of pandering to pros and streamers.

pallid pewter
#

Can we have the option to duplicate loadouts

minor star
#

Serious feedback on Sword

I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.

First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.

Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.

The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.

So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.

Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.

The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360Ā° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant. The server sided calculation of it has been bugged ever since it got introduced but has never been adressed. In the current season flicking the lunge will still yank back your entire camera and make accurate aiming impossible.

I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course it increases the frustration for alot of people. Hit detection, desyncs and server performance in general should be a heavy focus for you because it is very frustrating and from experience playing with alot of different people a big reason people ragequit or in general leave the game. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.

Changes

M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)

Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 136 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed

Other Feedback

Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.

Small QOL Updates You have so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.

young hatch
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FIX RANKED. LOL.

How are enemies unranked worth 0RS and I get team mates unranked worth 15k RS and they go on and get 0 kills?

Like how? Your ranked system is so broken.

Nowā€¦ 4 GAMES IN A ROW, I have unranked team mates worth 10-15k RS each. All struggle to get kills. And run off and die.

hollow belfry
#

Fix loading up the finals taking minutes to boot up

spark crown
#

embark the servers are unplayable for oce rn please fix them.

sly stratus
#

what's with the constant hit registration issues in NA?

quasi elm
#

Really hoping we just revert the S10 CL-40 changes, an explosive weapon barely doing splash damage genuinely feels awful and the self damage being a 1.4x multiplier is so overly punishing when you're already fighting to out TTK people with well placed shots.

supple cedar
#

sax update? add saxophones to the game

serene egret
#

Buff m11 make it supreme once again

dim dune
#

Day 4267 of askng to nerf light melee

near haven
#

I'm pretty bad at this game but being kicked from a lobby for no reason is whack, fix your disappointment of a game.

solemn badger
#

I use the cl-40 and only using that got to diamond with it

the weapon lacks any ttk on other M & H (this is fine btw)

( keep in mind the only weapon the cl-40 will have a better ttk is when fighting a pike when in a MVM match up)

But if u want to reward more direct shots increase the velocity of the shots and maybe make the cycle animation to be slightly faster i am fine with less splash damage but plz then make it more in line with what u have said for wanting direct hits with it

Dev Note: The CL-40ā€™s effectiveness is not great compared to many other Medium weapons. We know facing the CL is frustrating for some players, so we want to be careful with how much we buff it, but these changes are needed to increase its viability. The aim is to incentivize more direct hits with the CL-40, rather than less accurate splash damage shots.

I would also love 2 see data reshaper cool down to be faster ( I do not use it but it takes 28s to come back feels it should be faster if u want more out of it )

aps buff to make the area it blocks lager or let it take more projectiles out as well

And plz watch this

https://youtu.be/5VAL0NxRmz0?si=G4RfN0FlcRtyws74

tranquil skiff
#

If I lay a jump pad in front of me, let me hit itā€¦. Fix your fucking game

mental fiber
#

Simple feedback:
at least answer user tickets, dont ghost your customers

violet kiln
#

After the lottery changed, all of my accumulated keys disappeared. Including the gift keys, I had over 500 of them. To be honest, Iā€™m incredibly disappointed because I assumed keys were a permanent in-game currency, not event-specific. Also, I didn't see any warning anywhere stating that keys would vanish when the lottery changed.
The result: hours spent grinding for those keys were just flushed down the toilet.

gleaming summit
#

Why can't Embark be just like Riot Games, even just once?

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deft rain
#

I got solid plays for NBA NFL cs2 soccer that's definitely gonna hit tn if you need some hit me up

twin helm
#

its insane to think that if it wasnt for this horrible ranked system and all the people that are aloud to cheat me and MANY other players would be able to reach diamond so sad so sad

hazy shore
#

add an opacity filter for the objectives/ pings. i cant see what im shooting at if all i see is legs and "vault 4" covering the rest of the body. you just have to guess where there head is

cyan sable
regal maple
#

true zero deadzone and a higher sensitivity threshold for controller players

remote ridge
sonic nymph
#

Fix your damn lag issues, I canā€™t even play 5mins without lagging. Why ? Game crushes when Iā€™m opening practice unless I restart.

wide vortex
#

You need to implement some prioritization for picking up stuff. It doesnt make sense that i pick up flowerpot if allie statue is sitting next to it. ALso delete winch and rpg

frank idol
#

There needs to be compensation for server issues, i just played a game where everyone in the lobby just gave up trying to play because the lag was so bad, one team just dominated because they apparently somehow wasnt affected.

raw flicker
#

Love the game embark. Full glaze, yall could run it into the ground and still it would be peak. (Maybe more promos for game? Just pay a bunch of fps streamers to play it for a few days)

frozen tree
keen lily
#

My favourite part of this game is when I have to get 2 fucking tournament wins to get back what I lost getting 1st rounded, while THE LOBBIES ARE LITERALLY THE FUCKING SAME ABOVE PLAT. If you are low plat or high plat or diamond it doesn't matter, because you play against the same pool of players and unless you get matched with ruby stacks in the same lobby it's literally equally difficult to win the game. The most trash ranked system in any video game ever made.

light sail
#

Make the shield great again!

pearl vector
#

TsukishimaShijma#0177 wow this mf came back to ruin ranked again, good job embark

lament lynx
#

the game is consistantly out of sync. I see I am behind an object then on replay it shows I am not. This needs to get fixed. I have asked streamers if it was for them also, they reply yes, so it is a game issue

tame chasm
#

why is the game so laggy last update

royal mango
#

dear Embark,

why tf does it now take 5 full minutes to start up the game on Xbox since the mid season update????

what the fuck

woeful cedar
#

Bring back head to head please, it was the perfect warmup for final round cashout

late thicket
#

are footsteps just fucking optional in this game ?

fiery crag
#

why the hell is it possible to face ruby 3 stacks solo queueing in GOLD? no new players are gonna stay with the game if half the matches are just against 3 stack top players dude.

neat sand
#

Embark support is pissing me off

gritty jetty
#

BRING BACK EVENT REWARDS
specifically these and only bring them back for me and only me, GooEater#0729 ive spent $700 on this game i deserve them the most

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waxen thicket
ashen grotto
#

Hey guys aparently riot games found a way to brick DMA cards with Vanguard AC, like you have to reinstall windows to get the dma card working again

worth hitting them up if you have connections, idk if they'll tell you about it but it's probably worth looking into

rustic tinsel
#

Even if it's not 40Āŗ, if any aim lock exists, sword will have the most idiotic handling. Since the rotation clamp is clearly the biggest thing that makes the weapon unusable, it shouldn't exist at all. You should just revert sword back to how it was in S1,S2 , when there was no multi-hit. Sword back then was a bit weak, but thatā€™s okay. A weaker weapon is better than a dumb patch that destroys its identity.
ā€‹Because you thought sword was weak when there was no multi-hit,you patched multi-hit in.But because your obsession with keeping that led to the dumbest decision, even removing mechanics all other weapons have.
ā€‹Every weapon, when in close range, can naturally move behind the enemy or slide behind and look back to hit. And dagger is a weapon specifically designed for that. So are you going to add aim lock to all weapons? Why, sword canā€™t look back like all do?Every weapon can naturally look back. But sword alone is restricted from doing that? Why do you discriminate only against the sword by calling it an ā€œexploitā€ when all melees and weapons can do it?
ā€‹Wildly spinning the aim actually wasnā€™t used, It was used only in very rare cases dumb enemies were stupidly stacked in one spot.
ā€‹If you want to solve the problem, then just remove multi-hit.
ā€‹Even if spins wildly, theyā€™d only hit one target. That solves the problem. The problem was solved without unfairly messing with the controls. Of course, dmg must also be reverted.Just revert it to S1.
ā€‹It's no coincidence that almost every dedicated Sword YouTuber has quit. They left because of this unjust,clunky,and fundamentally flawed handling. Why you have to ruin swordā€™s identity thatā€™s been there since its release just to appease the nerf whiners? Whoā€™s the narrow-minded person who decided on a patch like this that ruins swordā€™s identity by thinking ā€œmelee should just be dumb M1 spam?
ā€‹Why do you ignore feedback from actual users of the weapon, Why are melees being treated unfairly? Just revert sword and melees nerf.

viral tinsel
#

Please take the route of Riot Games and start bricking the hardware of cheaters.

rough igloo
#

^ yes

bright mason
#

BRING BACK HEAD TO HEAD

lime lark
#

Keep on getting packet loss. Often mid fight as well.

formal coral
#

nerf medium i dropped 20 kills in QC with crossbow, please nerf it, the class is so OP against dashing light and heavy with dome and sustain

edgy sphinx
#

Hey embark I got a riddle for you, what game can you get enemies that are 100 levels above you and teammates that are level 5. The Finals is the answer

young drum
#

Add 3 healing splash potions to medium.
Buff XP to 17 damage and .3 faster reload

cold bolt
vagrant prism
#

Reduce cash out penalty for leaving if another player leaves before you

calm kraken
#

the easter egg hunt needs to be tweaked if you guys want us to do it before the game shuts down

shadow elk
cursive urchin
#

Embark, ask yourself why even the goated aimers grief out sword/dagger/riot/blades/db/bow/knives/sniper then apply that same reasoning to the experience of a casual or new player, and you might start to see why many of them quit shortly after trying the game.

drowsy thicket
# cold bolt whining about light melee in the big s10 is so telling on yourself šŸ˜­ embark, b...

Sword is brainless tho...
I don't think nerfing would be benefitial but more like adding another layer to make it an skill class that actually can be useful for something else then destroying low elo casuals. Currently most sword player swing and hope to hit them with the outside of their swing radius...
They just spam and hope to hit while running around u...

Dagger is inconsistent... the back stab mechanic needs some Tweeking other then that it seems fine.
(not for competitive but for casual at least)

hazy shore
#

add an opacity filter for the objectives/ pings

quick rampart
# shadow elk

what if my teammates never reinforce though and roam offsite?

mellow narwhal
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Make ranked only 2 rounds (cashout and a final round)
Reasoning
Faster games (burnout is less)
More competitive games (less likely golds get thrown to the wolves)
makes loss less devastating (not losing hours of progress from a grief)

simple ether
#

Hey @pearl kiln got an idea for you.
How about you guys take a break from the $40 cosmetics and address some of the issues people have been complaining about for the past 4 seasons like ranked, matchmaking, smurfing and the mass amounts of cheaters in this game? šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

I mean seriously, when was the last time anyone here had a "close match"? Every match is one sided. You are either curb stomping or getting stomped. Cheating, smurfing, ranked and matchmaking should be your top priorities. Everything else can wait.
And for the love of god, if you dont care about the game, then sell it to someone who does.

Sincerely, Fed Up Fans Everywhere

proven crown
#

SA Dammam Server IS FUCKED. JFUUUUCKEEEDD

signal basin
#
  • TRASH SERVERS
  • TRASH SBMM
  • TRASH ANTI-CHEAT
  • TRASH BALANCE

GG EMBARK.

golden badger
#

Always remember guys this game has 3 anti-shits I mean anti-cheats

tired meadow
#

The servers have recently been really bad, especially these past few weeks

craggy basin
remote forge
#

Personnally, no serv lag or cheaters in cashout. I've been having fun and it's great. So yeah, im spreading positivity, thanks embark. Just one thing, nerf melee weapons please, its really annoying

copper canopy
round isle
minor star
#

Serious feedback on Sword

I played Sword for about 1500h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.

First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.

Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.

The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.

So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.

Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.

The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360Ā° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant. The server sided calculation of it has been bugged ever since it got introduced but has never been adressed. In the current season flicking the lunge will still yank back your entire camera and make accurate aiming impossible.

I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course it increases the frustration for alot of people. Hit detection, desyncs and server performance in general should be a heavy focus for you because it is very frustrating and from experience playing with alot of different people a big reason people ragequit or in general leave the game. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.

Changes

M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)

Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 136 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed

Other Feedback

Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.

Small QOL Updates You have so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.

supple cedar
#

wheres the sax update? its been 3 years now i want saxophones

fading nacelle
#

Why is there no game history tab? So fundamental to an FPS game, but it doesn't exist. I can't see my wins, losses, or change in ranked points.

hearty bough
# rustic tinsel Even if it's not 40Āŗ, if any aim lock exists, sword will have the most idiotic h...

Bro all melee is being reworked next season just keep your fingers crossed stop reposting this run on sentence every day. At least update the formatting and grammar so itā€™s readable.

The reason they nerfed it is because old sword was bad for the game. One OP or annoying (sword was the latter) weapon ruins the game experience for everyone involved.

On the other hand, an underpowered weapon only affects the users of said weapon.

Big chunk of community is more total people than the total number of sword mains, simple math, thatā€™s why itā€™s been nerfed.

Hopefully the rework puts it into a place where itā€™s actually fun to engage with. Even the current version sucks to deal with, while also being objectively weak.

gritty jetty
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bring back event rewards

white pine
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MGL rework suggestion:

The grenade does damage as a projectile but still requires to bounce to explode.

So basically I could hit direct hits for maybe 80 damage or so each

Just basically tune it so it's not possible to 1HKO a light with a direct hit followed by an explosion.

fresh shell
#

Please let us new players pra tice movement and maps in solo mode šŸ™

hard grail
#

Even my nans got a smurf account at this point

coarse shore
#

Bring back bank it pls

frail tangle
#

My solution for melee is making it more "tech" oriented and lowering damage of standard attacks (primary and secondary attacks), only slightly to encourage more complex use of the weapon over spam. This makes the melee require more skill to use effectively and makes it more viable in terms of close ranged fights. Melee weapons should have more of an emphasis on utility making them more viable than they already are outside of fights.

This could be done for example by making certain movement chaining more effective outside of combat. Like the sword you could switch to a gadget and back to the sword to create momentum that can be controlled and amplified with other methods of movement such as jumping, sliding and even mantling. Allowing the user to have utility (being more movement options) while not doing damage with that movement making it not over powered and annoying to win a head on fight with. As when the sword user is doing damage they will have less movement allowing them to be more easily hit but when they are not fighting they can easily move away, which encourages melee to trade damage when fighting, which will make gun users feel like it's more fair when fighting.

I'm a melee main btw

spice mural
#

You got this Embark, I really do like THE FINALS. This game is extremely innovative and very malleable in game play. Nice job making something unique and interesting.

safe bluff
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for a game of cashout why am i waiting for more than 30mins just for cashout it not ranked to give fully balanced teams

foggy orbit
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Melee needs movement, why does a knife on a archetype that is described as "extremely fast" force you to run at walking speed, meaning you cannot catch up to heavies. Why does riot shield blocking, when the feet are easily exposed force your camera to zoom in and make you move slower than a heavy walking... There is so much built-in counterplay to melee already, catching up to enemies means you have to do so much work, and the payoff is not worth using. There's a reason melee is hardly used in a serious/competitive scenario.

spare topaz
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Grow a pair and do what Riot games did to their cheaters.

vocal bloom
#

can solo q players play with other solo q players im tired of these duos throwing the match on purpose and then blame it on you

sterile canopy
cloud sun
#

So the game is placing me in a "good spot" when I go from seed 1 to seed 7 every other game? Then it throws people with 10k less RS than me on my team where we immediately lose. I don't buy it at all. This will lead to this games downfall if not fixed. If this is a team focused game then there needs to be a serious overhaul on the way RS is dealt and how matchmaking works.

brave cypress
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Put full match replay

outer agate
#

Delete feedback channel šŸ‘

sonic arrow
#

balance the full automatics

lime sky
steady flame
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really hope there can be something done about people leaving matches every game, no matter what mode im someone leaves either on my team or enemy and when they leave on my team i always end up losing due to being short a player or vice versa

harsh cliff
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for the love of god if any of you embark team reads this, ffs do something about smurfs, I play for three hours to get +100, +220, +330, then I get one match we are seed one, I need to get first place to get 650 !!, I am in gold elo, I lose 5th I get -1100, I am super mad, and I hate you guys for this system, it doesnn't respect my time or any person's time. it sucks

soft topaz
#

Pls Buff gravity cube so it can be more useful
Can we get a flame spear that does burn damage as is it's almost useless

worthy needle
pale bronze
crimson ledge
#

the only thing that you need to fix is the cheating problem everything else is completely secondary and unimportant if you cannot fix this embark..

upbeat ore
#

It speaks volumes that every time a fun new tech is discovered the community's reaction is "this is awesome! I can't wait for Embark to catch wind and remove it right away."

vestal junco
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PLEASE HAD A FORFEIT BUTTON

versed fox
#

remove moving platforms from ranked, it is bugged currently.

unreal blaze
#

Embark,

Get your god damn cheating under control. The amount of times I've seen these sore losers who can't even aim with an AKM for the first round, yet the next round they are going super saying wiggling aimbotting with a pistol not missing a single headshot while moving on like a 5 cm/360.

ornate sorrel
#

Anyone else keep gettin "failed to sync data from the backend services" error code?

dark niche
fluid sun
#

starlight hollow is the worst map in the game, it needs to be completly reworked from the ground up

  • little to no cover at spawn on the attacking side
  • little cover at all in the map
  • huge boring open spaces
  • horrible for melee
    how about we fight inside a giant castle or somethin instead of having camping fights on top of the same two or three buildings every round
noble bramble
#

Day 9 - remove stun mechanic from winch.

Also remove moving platforms as a modifier until they are fixed

full jetty
#

you guys ever gonna fix this ranked nonsense or am i seriously sitting here at silver an update/week geting slammed by clueless silversz

novel trench
#

Embark are you ever going to fix ranked? Iā€™m Skibidi 3 and clearly itā€™s your fault somehow because Iā€™m supposed to be Ruby or smt.

craggy basin
regal crane
#

let glitch (barrel / nade) undo a deffib trust

bright mason
#

BRING BACK HEAD TO HEAD

mental fractal
shrewd dirge
astral viper
#

Starlight Hollow sucks unrepentant ass.

The sniper spam, the instakill on all defenders when the zone moves, the awful layout. There is nothing enjoyable about playing the map.

I've decided to start quitting out of matches rather than play that map.

untold drum
#

ENGIMO headband tie, that's it plzz

waxen thicket
civic flax
slim glen
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I have some really good feedback. Please buff lights even more. Sword melee should one shot heavy and medium. A single dash should cover half the map distance. Add one more dash as well please. I also need more smurfs in the game. I love seeing a level 10 player have 2k eliminations and have crazy movement skills. I love how there is no report option for smurfing. I absolutely love to click on "other" and then type and entire passage as to how the opponent is smurfing all the while the match continues in the background. Please do not change any the report settings and please bring in more smurfs

exotic raft
#

The medium's repeater is in a weird spot right now.

For a while it was the only usable weapon on medium and they nerfed it to put it back into a healthy spot. It was definitely strong, no arguments there, but I think the nerf to its range and damage put it in a bad spot. They made it scope in slower and reduced its fire rate because it was too good at close range. This was a good change, it allowed the weapon to remain focused at a medium-long range where it thrives. But the damage nerf and range nerf did the opposite. It's identity was a hard hitting, slow firing, medium-long range rifle. But now, if I use it across any meaningful gap, I may as well just be using the revolver cause its damage is pitiful. the damage nerf also made it go back to 5 shotting heavies. This break point is dumb in my opinion because the heavy class (with 100 more hp) has weapons similar in style like the BFR and KS23 that kill heavies with 4 shots like the repeater should. This means, unless you hit a headshot, any interaction with a heavy may as well be you shooting concrete because they will ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS kill you faster. This is especially weird cause the dmg nerf didn't affect a single other break-point. It still 2 shots lights and 3 shots mediums. Embark, please, put it's damage back up to 88 so I can use it against heavies again. And give it its range back, that was the whole point of the weapon in the first place. In exchange I propose more changes similar to that of the fire rate nerf and scope-in time increases. Changes that make it shine more in its intended purpose and less universal at close range, keeping the revolver and model in their place.

If anyone has any disagreements I'm open to hearing them out. Operate in good faith here. I care about the betterment of this game that we all love so much.

shrewd echo
#

We need a game mode with money theft from each others bank vaults, two teams on map, both defending bank vaults, trying to steal other teams cash from their vault is absolute 100% guarenteed happiness.

I can't stress this enough

5v5 8v8 10v10 it can be done

You could even make it so you have to use the mediums wall bang breaching mount is the only way to get in...

Plant, hold area for 60 seconds... in... steal cash boxes, bring back to own vault... win money...

First team to 50,000 wins

charred rover
#

Puhhleaase bring back head2head

fringe crypt
#

bring back head 2 head

hexed topaz
thorny lynx
#

The Finals:
A dynamic dynamisimiisisic haven for furries and cheaters. Come be a part of the fastest dying gameshow!

gritty jetty
cold bolt
#

remove moving platforms seoul

ionic viper
gaunt burrow
#

We want

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silent grove
#

remove starlight hollow

supple cedar
sweet crescent
#

i miss head 2 head

drowsy swift
#

where did lasvegas desert condition go or lasvegas tripwire and turrets MM_cry

we have a great lack of map conditions

empty needle
#

i need ƶrf sweatshirt as merch pls

tame tinsel
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXbF0iZhwCs
since you guys are re-working mele, i NEED to suggest studying this game, but speeding it up to the pace of the finals.
(its honestly the best mele experince i've ever had in first person MELE, other than "dark messiah of might and magic", but a bit too realistic.
this game is a close 3rd right now, (but more fun/arcade than both, minus the ragdoll physics... )

(side note: swap shield to heavy, and spear to mediam... it just makes more sense, adjust damage accordingly, and make the mace/baton bigger, and the spear have a wider hit-range, and let us cancel the spin ffs)

To respond to the below comment: "fixed an issue where players were having fun" -Embark... lol

lethal bear
left widget
#

If this thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1tc1xz5/the_ranked_distribution_project/) can be taken serious and The Dataā„¢ strongly suggests so then The Finals has a serious problem with how rank score is calculated.

This also influences matchmaking. All those complains about high golds fighting rubies are sourced by a deflation of ranks in the system. If about 80% of the players are in bronze and silver it's logical that gold 4, platinum and diamond are squished together with ruby. Or to use another example if less than 5% of the playerbase is in platinum and above whom do you want to matchmake those people against?? There are not enough players for the matchmaking to work, but it's not because there are not enough people playing The Finals but the ranks are deflated to the extreme.
In Overwatch which uses the same 5 ranks plus master top tiers most players are distributed between gold and platinum. Compared to The Finals this is madness!

I don't know what Embark screwed up to land here, but it's incredible problematic for a game that wants to be e-sports focused. Imagine beginners(!) not being able to advance to silver in a rank system that has 5 ranks for normal beings. This is incredible frustrating and produces a high churn rate. I'm not advocating for engagement-based matchmaking, god forbid. But they need to keep players in the loop for ranked to work. The Finals isn't a big game to begin with. Creating such an mental entry barrier to the ranked progression is causing even less players in this game mode.

Adding to this I don't understand why you can lose hundreds of rank score when placing 5th/6th as a bronze player. If this would be gold, okay. It's time to get serious, but those people in bronze and silver are just starting out. They are beginners! So I think the main problem is not gaining rank score, but losing it too easily. This won't change with the personal bonus in season 11 so they better return to the drawing board for this one.

tender eagle
limpid remnant
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SoloQ RS multiplier: win more, lose less to reward ppl to reward people for soloQing. Maybe even an endorsement system to endorse good random mates (PlopparnTTV approved)

vale haven
#

one more loadout slots, it is easy and will make everyone happy

wide vortex
#

embark you need to figure out your MM. How tf we can match agains 160 000 RS team when our team is 80 000 rs? IT IS F RIDICILOUS IT IS YOUR FAILURE. also delete rpg and winch

runic gazelle
#

Gm

unborn jetty
# left widget If this thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1tc1xz5/the_ranked_d...

Skill doesn't fall into a bellcurve. It actually falls into what is called a Power Law distribution where roughly 80% of the population is on the low end and only roughly 20% are on the high end.

It is 100% expected that most players will be in bronze/silver. That is the correct distribution that follows real life observations on humans performing skilled tasks.

Many people over estimate their own ability too. "I'm definitely diamond! I just can't get out of bronze because not my fault!"

Here's another link talking about it https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/515dk5/the_bell_curve_distribution_makes_competitive/

minor star
#

Serious feedback on Sword

I played Sword for about 1500h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.

First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.

Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.

The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.

So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.

Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.

The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360Ā° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant. The server sided calculation of it has been bugged ever since it got introduced but has never been adressed. In the current season flicking the lunge will still yank back your entire camera and make accurate aiming impossible.

I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course it increases the frustration for alot of people. Hit detection, desyncs and server performance in general should be a heavy focus for you because it is very frustrating and from experience playing with alot of different people a big reason people ragequit or in general leave the game. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.

Changes

M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)

Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 136 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed

Other Feedback

Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.

Small QOL Updates You have so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.

cursive urchin
#

Having played since CB1, I've come to the conclusion that doubling the cashbox shouldn't be a mechanic in ranked. Sure, it prevents a team in 4th from suddenly jumping to 1st, but realistically, if they're that far behind, they should be fighting for 3rd or trying to stagger the cashbox and contest cashout stations 5 and 6 instead.

As it stands, once a team deposits cashbox 5 and secures an ungriefable position, the entire lobby just hunts 2nd place. It turns into a 9v3 where three teams are trying to double while preventing the team in 2nd from splitting, which makes the endgame feel forced and repetitive rather than strategic.

thin falcon
#

remove insta killing border from point break its really unfun especially on maps light starlight hollow

lime shoal
#

Terminal attack for custom games(or as a limited mode at least)

sleek crater
#

give us 2 ruby coins

brittle abyss
#

Anti Gravity Cube Viability/QoL Change:

Kill Switch - upon deployment it immediately activates like normal but now you can destroy the cube remotely. NO COOLDOWN REDUCTION OR REFUND. Itā€™s simply an option to remotely end the cubeā€™s effects early. Allowing for more strategic stalls and arena manipulation.

I feel like this could add sooo much value. Bad placement? Gone. Teammate caught in it mid fight? Gone. Bunkered up team stealing in air and you canā€™t shoot cube? Gone.

regal crane
slender pine
#

I convinced my friends to re-try this game. After placement matches, they are silver and gold. A couple matches later, we run into a full ruby stack, and they immediately quit, and said they're never playing this game again.

good matchmaking, embark šŸ‘

odd prism
#

can we rework platinum? half the time i loose 1100 because every ruby in the lobby is smurfing and then the other half i shit on the lobbies because its all silvers and gain 2 rs. platinum isnt a rank at all

dire birch
#

Can the devs add some big-ass and big-titted body types for women, and maybe some faces with actual expressions ? This would spike the player count.

broken citrus
#

BFR needs a range buff

soft topaz
#

Teleport mine acts like all mines but when it goes off target gets transported away from team and has to run back to the fight

bright maple
#

It would be great if there was some way to earn the cosmetics from the bonus pages in old battle passes. I only started playing last season and many of them look great but arenā€™t unfortunately included with the legacy passes.

torpid quarry
#

Add the Rascal from arc raiders as a medium gadget and delete the cl-40

rapid reef
#

Can you rework your spawn point? Like this is just not logical to spawn my team 200 meters away from our box in the last 30 seconds of the game. Especially in ranked?

left widget
# unborn jetty Skill doesn't fall into a bellcurve. It actually falls into what is called a Pow...

I totally agree with that. Thanks for pointing that out and the additional information.

It seems that Embark followed the Power Law when desiging the rank score distribution and in that regard they nailed it.
Problem is presentation and the player engagement that follows.

For example Age of Empires 4 once changed its rank score distribution so everyone could reach highest rank, when they played enough games. Think the opposite of The Finals. They did that because people are bad at the game but would not stick around when getting stuck. Their ranked mode is now one of the most played game modes.

I don't like the idea and Embark shouldn't do that, but they can't use the standard 5+ rank system, when aiming for the Power Law. This will lead to matchmaking complains that are now everywhere because given that presentation no one understands why platinum must fight ruby.
In that case they need a completly different approach presenting the ranks or at least less ranks so it is more obvious that you are already in the top 20%. Which at the moment is gold!

hollow cloud
#

Nerf the flame thrower, it is unbalanced, and u know why fix it

cloud parrot
#

is there anything worse than being spawned on the opposite side of the map to the final box when the other ones isnt even available? why would this ever happen

dense ocean
#

day 83 asking for a free moolah Plushie

waxen thicket
#

  • Add the 9 and 10th contestant slots already, there are 11 specs in total now. More contestant slots would let players utilize more of them as well as experiment with more weapons.

  • Move Pike .556 from Medium to Heavy class. Pike would be more useful in the hands of Heavy than Medium. Here are the reasons why:

  1. Pike is a shit weapon. Medium already has Repeater and Crossbow to fill the long-range poke weapon niche.

  2. Buffing Pike won't be enough to give back it's relevance. Crossbow basically does the same thing Pike does, except better. Sure it has less range, but Repeater already covers that long-range niche. To make Pike relevant, not only would it require a buff on itself but also nerfs on the others to actually let it shine.

  3. On the other hand, Heavy still doesn't have a scoped marksman rifle. Sure Heavy has some long-range options like BFR Titan and Akimbos, but technically they're still pistols. If Heavy could use Pike, it would still be a sidegrade to them at best because, again, Pike is a shit weapon. It has nice range and ammo, but the damage and hipfire is so atrocious that normal fights are hard to win, and at close range it's impossible. Unlike Medium or Light, Heavy has enough health to make up for that weakness. It would work very well as a support weapon that can help teammates but not win fights on it's own. Unlike BFR, Pike can engage further enemies but becomes useless at close range due to scope and bad hipfire. On Medium that already makes it unviable, but on Heavy at least that would still be amenable.

So Pike would be less useless on Heavy. Since it's already bad, no rebalance would be needed. Just resizing and animation retouch to fit Heavy, is all.

@cinder cloak Wouldn't really apply for Heavy, cos they already play sniper Light.

Also, add double jumps, wallrunning and explosive self-knockbacks for all classes so that everyone can zip across the arena like TF2 (Titanfall and Team Fortress) characters.

cold bolt
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remove moving platforms from ranked in general but at least from seoul, you know Hospital is a pain point in map design to the extent where you literally patched a rework for it and in moving platforms it's especially problematic when it passes the bridge whilst another cashout is ongoing at hospital

this 90% of the time results in a 9v3 to the team on the moving platform bc the hospital team will just move it off onto the bridge and grief them, it is by far the hardest cashout in the game to keep and hospital is always the easiest

scenic oasis
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Make the winch work on your allies, and have no to little cooldown (5s) if done. It would be fun, and some cool utility (of course, nerf it because it is already too powerful currently, and it'll stay that way as long as it stuns. Shorter overall cooldown and no stun would work better)

restive warren
# frail tangle My solution for melee is making it more "tech" oriented and lowering damage of s...

Definitely agree, right now some melee weapons have unviable secondary abilities which means that the most effective playstyle is to m1 spam and ignore the secondary. This is obviously bad because it's linear and has a lack of identity/variety ā€” literally every melee weapon does that. If m1's were worse but secondaries are better, that literally results in m1 spam being less viable and some other secondary playstyle being more viable which is the solution right there. Just imagine a hypothetical scenario where Sword m1 is rebalanced lunge and the secondary is a weaker m1, that playstyle would be so wacky and different compared to current Sword and every other existing melee weapon just because the "primary ability" m1 doesn't follow the standard of the old melee m1's.

I do agree that melee should definitely be more tech oriented but techs are always janky to do. Embark's philosophy is to remove techs, and your philosophy is to focus more on techs. For me, it's better to look behind the purpose on why a tech is used and then implement it into a feature if possible.

For example, people use Spear Spin Animation Cancelling. Why do people use it? > Spin is not versatile. Ok just make Spin more versatile. Congratulations, we now have a solution that makes the tech obsolete by doing everything the tech can do but more consistently, balanced, enjoyable and intended. Action cancelled Spin is definitely a different playstyle from old Spin but it's more enjoyable despite being unintended, so just remove old Spin and rebalance new Spin around being versatile FAIRLY because it's more enjoyable if it were intended that way rather than removing it or leaving it glitchy and unintentional.

verbal cairn
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so i play a whole ranked game without a teammate and i only get half refunded kanker spel

uncut garnet
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Add attachments to guns plsssss

bronze fractal
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Add a forfeit mechanic for quickplay - if everyone on the opposite team leaves, automatically give the win to the stayers, and don't trickle in new players from the queue to a 50-80% finished match.
Maybe a 20%-50% exp gain on a Forfeit-win, to balance out with actual time spent and prevent potential bot abuse?

novel trench
hollow sage
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It's incredibly suspicious how every other TDM match has one insanely sweaty/skilled player on each team, battling for supremacy in a glorified 1v1 while the rest of us sit on the sidelines as collateral, like NPCs in a match of Titanfall. This seriously needs to stop.

cinder cloak
supple cedar
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too tired to shitpost in here just pretend this is something profound

barren hornet
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There should be different sensitivity profiles:D

void scarab
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i feel like defib should have a longer cooldown.
i have so many games where you kill a guy, then this MF comes in with a 360 no scope slide to defib their heavy and it makes feels fights so overly prolonged for no reason.

EDIT:
would also be nice if you could add teammates to my team with aim

sacred compass
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The settings should let you enter your mouse dpi and set your sensitivity in cm/360 please!

dusky vapor
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allow outfits to include weapon skins. I like to use different outfits but changing the weapon skins manually everytime is annoying

wide vortex
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Turn the ranked to normal quickcash. Its so fucking sickening to get third and 4th partied every ssingle game. DELETE RPG AND WINCH AND DONT MATCH ME AGAIN WITH THAT TEAMMATE 4 TIMES IN ROW

barren phoenix
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FIXED RANK YOU MELTS, I KEEP LOSING 500-1000 RS PER GAME TO SOME BS

gritty jetty
dull tiger
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how to rework M gadgets

aps larger protected area

breach drill flashes instantly that will end right as the wall is destroyed

data reshaper perfect maybe give larger cone not much to do

dfib bring back so s1 state make spec : i genuinely have no clue how to balace it as a gadget provides too much utility on the support class as a gadget however i feel like it will be underwhelming as a spec even if its made into s1 state

mine: make activate zone smaller give 2 uses

gas mine: make acivate zone a little smaller also gas now instantly starts to ramp up not after 2 secs takes 3 secs in gas to get max dps which is same as normal max : i feel it activates when i have not touched it a little to often also gas needs a general rework and buff

glitch trap perfect

hover pad make much louder with more hp and area to stand on

jump pad perfect no reason at all to change

zipline make speed grow exponentally over time also keeps your pre zipline speed (only the speed moveing in the same direction as zipline path) more reach : if jump pad can go 500 mph with goo zipline should be able to do something simmilar and it should be able to go faster as zipline is so easy to track

proximity sensor perfect

pseudo leaf
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Bring back ruby que. I am down to wait 10min if the lobby i got is some what contains decent players. Having bad teams just makes the game more random. Like they move randomly and they kinda go for 3rds or weird holds that makes the game gamble. Because if there is 2 good teams and if you happen to get 3rd because of spawns. You basically lose tempo and got your self in basically 3v9 for being in a not good lobby.

glass fulcrum
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not related to the game itself but embark i have been waiting for a merch store restock (nama tama plush / ospuze cap) since i joined PLEASE restock those jesus christ do you want my money or not??

slender pine
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Fix ranked matchmaking, rubies should never be playing gold or below.

hollow badger
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embark stop giving me esports world tour games

warm silo
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EMBARK FOR THE LOVE OF GOD FIX YOUR SERVERS I'M TIRED OF CONSTANT NOREGS

bright mason
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BRING BACK HEAD TO HEAD NOW

muted shard
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I would love to have a rework for the leaderboard and objective score tracking in Power Shift.

The current state seems to just reflect the objective Score ingame on the leaderboard. Objective Score in Powershift can only be achieved with sitting on the platform.
While it is obvious, that moving the platform is literally the number one objective, there are other things that are important for the objective of actually moving the platform too and should be rewarded with objective score in my opinion.

Possible actions that __could __ also earn objective score:

  • killing players on plat
  • killing players while standing on the plat
  • killing players near the plat
    (these actions get partly rewarded with objective score in point break too as far as I know)
  • healing on plat
  • blocking damage on plat
  • destroying gadgets on plat
  • aps usage on plat
  • etc.
feral pine
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why is it that every game of ranked i play someone rage quits or throws the game for nothing there is no penalty for leaving or throwing and there's not even a report option for it my friend left a game once and got a 7 MIN BAN what does that even do there is nothing to prevent people from doing that i have literally had over half of my ranked games where someone leaves or throws and that's bad it should be barley at all i don't understand and don't go and say oh its because im bad and they quit im usually top combat or support in lobby its getting to a point where i don't want to solo que in this game because the system is horrible and don't even get me started on climbing ranked anyway if there everyone is the same skill which it usually is there is only a 1/8 chance of getting to first place that's not good still fun though but not good. idk what to do about but i hope they fix somehow bc i want to play but i cant solo que.

clear haven
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Can we please buff the XP-54, AKM and maybe the P90, theyā€™re pathetic compared to their peers
XP-54: 17 damage, 830 RPM, 34 mag size
AKM: 36 mag size, easier initial recoil
P90: 15 damage, 850 RPM

foggy orbit
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remove 2x headshot multiplier on lh1

obtuse summit
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There needs to be a better auto-moderation system or exploit detection system, consistently Iā€™ve been paired up with cheaters or exploiters making the game unfun and insanely boring.
Last game I went up against a bow cheater likely using macro or something else to double shoot their shots without doing full draw resulting in them doing double the damage a quick draw w/o full pull would normally do, or perfect aim from super far away whilst using a full-auto gun/sub-machine gun (starlight hollow Point Break C to E, the farthest away from C. We captured all of the points in the 2nd round just about so no it wasnā€™t when the round was just beginning).

Just overall the game is slowly getting more and more unfun due to the sheer number of obvious exploiters that donā€™t get punished for it.
A auto mod system would be way better

dim root
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I feel like the hover pad should be able to hold enough weight to uphold the cashout station on top of it. It would still heavily slow down the hover pad but at least it would give mediums more cashout manipulation options aside from the jump pad.

sleek crater
spiral hemlock
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1 person in my ranked game doesnt join the ENTIRE MATCH and i lose 500 rs? no rs refund? ur goated embark

vital basin
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remove spawn protection for defibs pls, it would discourage bad defibs

umbral linden
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replace power shift with terminal attack

golden ember
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please nerf light dashes, i get it you want the class to be as overpowered as possible to sell skins. Does the class really need to be a super soldier?

dark niche
ocean eagle
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Fix cheating and smurfs. I know you don't care, but the game is dying and it's your fault for not addressing this

urban adder
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In THE FINALS, there are matchups where weapon compatibility can create overwhelmingly one-sided encounters. Personally, I think thatā€™s part of the gameā€™s appeal, so I donā€™t see it as a problem.

However, there are times when all three other teams just happen to have unfavorable matchups against us. In World Tour, you can swap weapons, but in Ranked Match you canā€™t. In those situations, we just end up losing RS for no real reason.

So Iā€™d like to have a one-time option in Ranked Match to swap to one pre-selected weapon while wiped out.

I think this would be a useful feature to slightly reduce the impact of unlucky team composition matchups.

golden torrent
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Please add a solo mode to The Finals.

cursive urchin
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Remove sonar, tracking dart, proximity sensors, flashbangs, and smoke from Ranked. Visual information advantages and disadvantages do not belong in a movement-focused shooter. Ranked should reward aim, positioning, movement, and decision-making - not vision denial, wallhacks, or free tracking tools that reduce mechanical outplay and clarity in fights.

maiden jolt
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Fix the demateralizer delaying (i've died a lot of times because of this)

echo urchin
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The rs and matchmaking system in ranked is awful, the balancing is awful, the server tick rate is awful.

pliant lichen
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Remove kyoto from rotation or delete the cheese pizza you have saved onto your office computers, we know which one you will refuse to do.

thorn kelp
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H+ Infuser should be a burst healing gun instead of full auto, change my opinion

cold bolt
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remove moving platforms from seoul, results in 9v3 when one cashout is on the platform and other is in hospital

valid badger
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Until the Zen and Cheating problem gets better, I'm out. I am sad.

glossy marlin
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Can we add more tunable sensitivity modifiers for individual zoom / magnification lengths of each sight? For those of us that do want a difference between 1.5x and 2x, but find the difference caused by enabling the focal length scaling option far too drastic / not what we want.

Id like the power to control sensitivity individually, a slider for each scope, similar to how Rainbow Six Siege does it in the advanced settings

wheat torrent
sharp wraith
shadow stirrup
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I stopped playing awhile ago. The game somehow became overtuned without fixing the primary problem: matchmaking. Developer arrogance made them believe that their game was so special that kills werenā€™t an accurate metric of skill (OGs will remember the pathetic little letter to the community about this). Iā€™m glad to see that the game has less and less peak player count each season, if it isnā€™t the consequences of their own actions.

hollow sage
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Was Starlight Hollow secretly reduced in chance to appear in TDM? I haven't gotten it in my past two sessions. Major ups! Now please rework it by adding a castle section and Cashout compatibility, and Starlight Hollow may be saved!

gritty jetty
bright mason
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BRING BACK HEAD TO HEAD

waxen thicket
# urban adder In THE FINALS, there are matchups where weapon compatibility can create overwhel...

atp Finals should add a secondary weapon slot like literally every other multiplayer fps.

Just add a Weapon Sling gadget like Ballistic from Apex Legends, taking up 2 slots, that lets you carry a 2nd weapon with 60s cooldown between swaps, but 30s for melee weapons. No same weapon category between them, to avoid cheese strats.

Alternatively add a Weapon Briefcase like Hitman that takes up only 1 slot, but in exchange, you take 3 seconds to swap to the other weapon and guns always swap with empty reload.

So you get an option between 2 guns and 2 gadgets, which is literally like Apex Legends, TF2 and even some heroes in OW and Marvel Rivals. Alternatively you can carry 3 gadgets instead with the extra weapon, but you lose the ability to bring it out in the middle of a fight. Either of them would help out players from those games giving Finals a try, and not delienate them hard enough to chase them back to what they play.

A balance between team utility vs. combat flexibility between contestant loadouts, would improve weapon variety too by making underused niche weapons actually worth picking for ranked matches. Overall, everyone gets something out of it.

nocturne tendon
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More recoil on mnk

small shadow
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Add exact ping

frigid horizon
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Gotta say: heavy kinda needs a nerf.
But just to dome shield
With this new double heavy meta dome shield has been nothing but a annoyance to go against
I'd either say reduce its timer or nerf its HP, because right now it effectively doubles a heavys hp for almost no drawback.

I wanna say nerf its hp down to like 150 or 200 so its easy to shoot through while keeping its timer.
Or keep the HP but nerf the timer so if you play at range you can try and use skill to dodge some bullets while the shield ticks down. (you can do this now: but its annoying doing it for a solid 7-8 seconds while the ttk in this game is often under a second.)

I know this is kinda pointless to say because embark never does anything about feedback, but i feel it'd be nice to voice it

spiral crown
hybrid silo
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Add a fixed pattern for demat, so that if I try to take out a piece of the floor in front of me, I donā€™t make the entire floor disappear or when trying to run away I take out more than 3 pixels and for the love of god remove the delay.

Make dome block all damage so heavies donā€™t have an instant + 250 hp

Make RPG do 50 damage. You guys said yourselves that it was never meant to be a fight opener but you keep itā€™s damage above 100 (not to mention it was 140 on launch).

Remove winch and H+ infuser from the game.

Please realise that designing a class that has to play in the most annoying way possible might not be healthy for the game. Going against a triple light team and all of them just disappearing the moment you shoot them is one of the worst experiences you can have in an FPS. Then again, somehow heavy exists, so I donā€™t know why I expect you to have any common sense.

Hire people with common sense and the ability to think.

spark crown
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bring back s9 barricades and fix the servers

hearty vector
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Add sex to the finals

native halo
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I agree, gender is not enough, i want to choose sex of my characters

full lynx
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If we have all the battlepasses completed, or perhaps all VR purchases done, can we convert 50 Stage Tokens or 5000 VRs for something useful? Multibucks would be my first choice. If not that, maybe Fans or EXP at least. ;w;

lunar iron
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Cool, im like let me play some Finals, point break. Should be chill right? Nope, immediately puts me against a team with 2 top 100 players. And you wonder why newer players dont stick around.

hybrid hearth
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:(

leaden tangle
amber granite
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maybe if both your teamates leave in a ranked match you shouldnt lose rs. wtf is this bullshit

indigo quartz
cursive urchin
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Ranked 3-stacks should always be matched exclusively against other 3-stacks. This is by design to keep coordination balanced. Solo/Duo rs/queue and Trio rs/queue should be separated similarly to games like League of Legends.

unreal moat
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remove the sense reduction when holding mesh and stop pretending you read the game feedback channel

long badge
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sex update when

ebon isle
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ranked needs to be fixed seriously, make it incentivised to get as much money as possible to get rid of most griefing

dense ocean
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day 84 asking for a free moolah Plushie

solar garnet
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Make dagger rmb dash like the sword does

shrewd egret
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what was the point to buff again the 93r and make it the best weapon again on light ?

raw bobcat
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Friendly fire option for practice range

mellow narwhal
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Ranked:

Make ranked only 2 rounds (cashout and a final round)

Faster games (burnout is less)
More competitive games (less likely golds get thrown to the wolves)
makes loses less devastating (not losing hours of progress from a grief)

Practice range:

Allow friendly fire (think aim duels from quake would be really fun)
Allow customization of big box battles and other modes in practice range
Allow dummy customization (distance, class, movement)

Balance:

Revert 93r change, overshadows all other light guns pretty much
Winch stun needs to be removed or lessened (CC in pvp is horrible)
Vanish bomb needs a rework (no reason to allow multiple specs on light at the same time)
Remove demat delay but bring it back down to 2

half cipher
molten zenith
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I think a good QoL change for all Heavy players who use Barricade; the barricade always prioritises picking it up instead of reviving a team mate or stealing a cashout whenever your crosshair is anywhere near your own barricade.

It's very misleading to know where you can or cannot look to pick up your barricade, it costed me quite a few games where the last seconds matter and I'm caught up messing with my own barricade instead of what I intended to interact with.

hidden quartz
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Please, dont rework dagger

wide vortex
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WHY TF CONTROLLER EQUALS SOFT CHEATS AT CLOSE QUARTERS? DELETE WINCH AND RPG AND REWORK RANKED 3 PARTIES RUIN IT COMPLETELY THANKS

jade cloak
dreamy geode
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cheater almost each game, do something embark !!

sterile canopy
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They would have to be many times longer to largely stop this from happening. They already tried doing this and had to revert it after like a week

dire sandal
# dreamy geode cheater almost each game, do something embark !!

Seriously, not even just ranked, all the way down the stack down to point break. So sick of getting perfectly domed by a light from across the map who has miraculously gone 30-40 and 1

Like how does that not immediately raise a flag in the system. Even if itā€™s not cheating, then the matchmaking has gone severely wrong.

Iā€™ve been playing every season since closed beta 1ā€¦itā€™s never been this bad. Itā€™s so bad šŸ˜­

hollow cloud
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Are the developers ever going to fix the game, cause the game has never been this anbalanced

uncut garnet
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Ask the owner of cod if we can use some of their equipment for the guns and stuff

rustic tinsel
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Even if it's not 40Āŗ, if any aim lock exists, sword will have the most idiotic handling. Since the rotation clamp is clearly the biggest thing that makes the weapon unusable, it shouldn't exist at all. You should just revert sword back to how it was in S1,S2 , when there was no multi-hit. Sword back then was a bit weak, but thatā€™s okay. A weaker weapon is better than a dumb patch that destroys its identity.
ā€‹Because you thought sword was weak when there was no multi-hit,you patched multi-hit in.But because your obsession with keeping that led to the dumbest decision, even removing mechanics all other weapons have.
ā€‹Every weapon, when in close range, can naturally move behind the enemy or slide behind and look back to hit. And dagger is a weapon specifically designed for that. So are you going to add aim lock to all weapons? Why, sword canā€™t look back like all do?Every weapon can naturally look back. But sword alone is restricted from doing that? Why do you discriminate only against the sword by calling it an ā€œexploitā€ when all melees and weapons can do it?
ā€‹Wildly spinning the aim actually wasnā€™t used, It was used only in very rare cases dumb enemies were stupidly stacked in one spot.
ā€‹If you want to solve the problem, then just remove multi-hit.
ā€‹Even if spins wildly, theyā€™d only hit one target. That solves the problem. The problem was solved without unfairly messing with the controls. Of course, dmg must also be reverted.Just revert it to S1.
ā€‹It's no coincidence that almost every dedicated Sword YouTuber has quit. They left because of this unjust,clunky,and fundamentally flawed handling. Why you have to ruin swordā€™s identity thatā€™s been there since its release just to appease the nerf whiners? Whoā€™s the narrow-minded person who decided on a patch like this that ruins swordā€™s identity by thinking ā€œmelee should just be dumb M1 spam?
ā€‹Why do you ignore feedback from actual users of the weapon, Why are melees being treated unfairly? Just revert sword and melees nerf.

midnight turret
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What is going on with cashout! Its awefull! Only teams with party with 2 and you are the secons wheel! Its Unplayable!

finite wind
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TRASH ranked experience, no respect for the time we invest in this game, 0 brain terammate, rubys, smurfs... Embark I wish you all the worst in real life.

lone zealot
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wtf is that why when we are in overtime and there's less than a minute you guys decide it's ok to be spawned like when we only have 30s to play at the other cashbox 200m away ??? What is going on like how do you want to have a good player base with that it's not possible of course you can't play the game until the last second with that kind of gameplay....It's not even hard like you just have to get that when we're in overtime and there no cashout left only the one still going on, let us spawn 80/100m of the cashout not at the cashout which is 200m away and without any cashout to put it in....

kindred veldt
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Keep getting corrupt file error in Kyoto map. Anyone else experiencing this?

safe quiver
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Every time I block someone, they come back in my lobby, what's the point ???

lime lark
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Random frame drops and packet loss. Typically with menu animations but they also happen in game too

novel trench
dim root
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Day 2 of asking for hover pad to be able to hold enough weight to hold up a cashout station.

gentle haven
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Dear "the finals" developer team.

I'm here to suggest something to bring steam item collectors to "the finals". My suggestions are:

Please bring steam trading cards
Steam points shop for animated pfps, backgrounds and so on.
Steam inventory so we can flex our items on our steam profile.

Those is what I suggest, take care and wish everyone on the community a amazing week. :steamhappy:

placid dust
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my game crashe now for the 15th time in 2 days... everything is fine with my system but that shitti game is crashin on all platforms. i lost literally everything i builded up and there is no way to get that stuff back, worst game i spent money on so far xD cant be coincidence that it always happens when im under attack.

quiet burrow
waxen thicket
# jade cloak A second weapon slot with the current design philosophy of the finals is probabl...

It doesn't, true, but it would address two of the biggest issues of the game: Players overwhelmed by other teams and their coordination, then quitting the game and going back to what they already play. Now I do hope you're not stupid enough to not actually understand why someone would want a secondary weapon slot, however a defeatist outlook that sticks to a "just fine" philosophy could be arguably worse than being stupid, so I'll just leave it at that.

The point is, Finals IS a mishmash of basically every other multiplayer fps, with class-based teamfights that also allow melee combats and fast-paced movement without dictating hard roles for players. Embark has used the term "Class Builder" and "Dynamism Shooter" when explaining The Finals.

They should not force all players to carry a 2nd weapon, but rather, let players who are more used to carrying a 2nd weapon, to do so at a cost. These other fps players, many of them come from aforementioned games where the standard loadouts are 2 weapons and 2 gadgets/abilities, 3 if you consider ults. These players do not want to juggle through 4 gadgets as it is the norm in The Finals, because they're not interested in learning complicated mechanics when they could instead be enjoying the simpler games they already play. For us, The basic 1 weapon + 1 ability + 4 gadgets loadout is more than good enough. But for the players who couldn't be bothered with that, let them have 2 weapons + 2 gadgets instead. Losing 2 gadgets is a very steep cost, basically losing out on half of the options during any fight. But for players who'd rather have a 2nd weapon to use and not bother with that extra utility, that 2 weapons and 2 gadgets loadout would be much more convenient for them without making them too powerful or too weak. Read again, it says OPTION to bring a 2nd weapon, not FORCE a 2nd weapon slot on everyone.

slender pine
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Yall are cowards for avoiding talking about ranked matchmaking. Get some leaders with balls in there, and address the biggest issues, please.

Rubies should NEVER be playing against teams below Diamond.

iron niche
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twice now when failed to connect to server and finally reconnecting and winning the round im hit with the leaver penalty resulting in close to 800 rs loss both times

desert bay
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEEEEEEEEEE allow us to finish the Bonus part of the battle pass (Lvl97-160) after the season ends whenever we reopen/repurchase the Battle pass.

scenic spade
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I'm curious as to why the Explosive Mine isn't a universal gadget. Why doesn't the Light have access to the Explosive Mine? I think it'd be a niche buff to the Light.

dark niche
oblique wraith
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4 team matches are bad
Having 4 teams in a match often results in frustrating situations like:

  1. There's 2 teams fighting for the cashout, but suddenly the 3rd one appears. The "3rd one" often just kills one of the teams in their back, basically for free, because that one trio that is being "backstabbed" need to fight enemies on 2 different sides, which is unfair as hell.
  2. One of the teams just sits AFK on cashout because other 3 teams are fighting at the other side of the map.

These situations aren't rare, meanwhile the only "good side" of having so many players on one map is... double cashout?.. It's pretty funny when it happens but really, why is it a main gamemode for rating matches?

3v3 or even a quick cash would be a much better choices for rating battles. They don't have any randomness (when there's either a 3v3 or 3v3v3 or 3v0) by design, there's always a set amount of teams fighting for the cashout in 1 place.

ranking up is hell
So I would suggest just getting rid of rating penalty if you've played really good, at least on lower ranks like silver and gold.

I may be the best on my team, trying to achieve the victory by any cost and doing everything right, but game can always just magically screw me over and I will loose 500 rating points. AKA, often because of the reasons why 4 team matches are bad and also because of a bad luck on having bad teammates. Loosing the match because of my team being dumb and then loosing the rating as a result feels absolutely pointless and just stupid man :(

I don't want to search for the team by asking random people on discord to join and then just hoping that the stars will allign. I just want to join the game, and see that the game rewards me for doing great, not punishes me for having bad luck

proud gate
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I notice a serious lack of barefoot shoe skins. Where is the no shoes option. Like wearing no pants in pubg-mobile; should be a given imo

cyan crane
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If you queue for ranked, you want to see your ranked score after the match. So stop hiding it behind useless info screens. Display it first. You want to see how much rs was gained or lost how much you need for the next rank up.

You do not need to see the one passive rank you have throughout the time you play after every single match. World Tour is an amazing thing donā€™t get me wrong, but iā€™d rather have my ranked score displayed in a similar way instead.

Now i need to skip multiple different screens with info nobody genuinely needs, to see what happened to my ranked score after the game and frankly it gets very annoying.

At times i press skip and do you know what happens then? It skips everything. I donā€™t get to see the ranked score change UNLESS i open the game mode menu. What about when i press space or next too quickly to get past the unnecessary info? Same story. IN FACT, does it even show anything on a loss 90% of the time? How is it this inconsistent?

empty light
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recomedation on how to fix the game: implement phone number verification for embark id and setting it to allow only one accaunt per phone number which will result significant decrease of smurfs

digital rose
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Nerf everything.

spare topaz
warped axle
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Real good match making system you got here matched with two silver players dispite being in gold theres a min difference of 5000 rs

fleet moss
# waxen thicket It doesn't, true, but it would address two of the biggest issues of the game: Pl...

being able to switch to a second weapon immediately would lead to some genuine cancer loadouts (sniper + m11 with fast swapping should never exist) no matter how many gadget slots it took from the user

the swap being sluggish as hell would be a lot better as it would make the decision to switch or not much more impactful

but if someone can carry two weapons to be more versatile against bad matchups, so can organized teams , arguably with much more effectiveness than a solo queue trying to not get stomped. Would this change help casuals and newcomers as much as it would let three-stacks swap their strategy on the fly when they face counters ?

having a secondary weapon isnt a bad idea on its own, but the primaries in this game are designed from the foundation to be used alone
most gadgets are better when they're used when you're entering a fight, not in the middle of it, so maybe giving each class an offensive gadget that's actually useful while youre already being shot at would be helpful (kinda like the rpg in some circumstances)

also they didnt say that you want to force two weapon slots on everybody, half of your message is fighting a strawman

dull tiger
jade cloak
# waxen thicket It doesn't, true, but it would address two of the biggest issues of the game: Pl...

Ok, lets say we give them the option to get a 2nd gun with them. What would result with the current state of the game is:

  • Every gun in the Game needs to be rebalanced
  • Ammunition economy would become meaningless in the game. Damage breakpoints are chosen so you have to hit your shots and in difficult situations be mindful of your reloads. If you could just switch to a secondary. Only way to not make it overpowered is to make the TTK even longer
  • Risk & reward of weapons become meaningless. A sledge Heavy has the risk of not being able to hit anyone over a few meters away, but gets the reward of Huge burst damage close range. That risk would just disappear, cause heavy can get a gun now.
  • If we switch out a gadget for a secondary, we are now missing a gadget that would have helped your team in the team game. You just support an egoistic playstyle only focused on kills reminiscent to an TDM game
  • It would not be a choice to take a second gun, it would be meta. You dont have to chose on maps like monaco anymore, if you take a medium range od close range gun. You just take both. + in duels in which raw firepower and positioning wins, the guy with 2 guns will most likely always win
  • Some guns arent designed to have a secondary. Take the DB for example. You get 2 shots, being able to kill anyone. If you now take a second gun with you, its basically a free no risk insta kill button.

We would need to find a solution for all of these problems before even thinking about adding a second gun.

silent oxide
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Please add the diamond player card backgrounds and badges from season 1 and 2 it just doesnt make sense to leave this out just because playercards werent a thing back then. i mean u also added the "season 1 supporter" backgrounds to the game so why not the ranked backgrounds? this addition to the game would just be great

brave moss
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Actually respond to the community and confirm if something is/isn't in scope for future patches rather than just giving us new cosmetics constantly.

I have been onboard since Beta and honestly, I can't stand that increasingly it feels like y'all want my money more than me actually playing.

If you have your current way, this game will be a bunch of whales in empty lobbies.

round geyser
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Add events to ranked šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­

regal steeple
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add more badges for events at least.

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warped meteor
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Do SOMETHING about the vile amount of esp and other cheats!

cinder cloak
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weapon mastery badges seem like a good addition, for if you get really good with a gun and can display different badges, almost like the gun having a ranks system

jaunty vapor
cursive urchin
bold geyser
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when are the lights gonna be able to dash in the practice range again?

wicked basin