easter-eggs

[neon stream]

I guess both could be meant to lead to 0 or Egg 🤔

[sick stone]

trying to see if I can link the 2 last elements of my summary to Euclid through the geocentric model perhaps, as both calendars the AyN consist off of are based on it

[pure loom]

I think we should all probably jump back and take another deep dive look at the first image, in case we missed something

It's our best source in the end

The marks on the headphones for instance look likely to be some sort of clue

[sick stone]

we're talking about brown eyed girl, correct?

because I think Rob stated there can be hints in any image relating to any easter egg that comes after

[pure loom]

yes

[sick stone]

although, I joined late, so that's only from what I can gather trying to catch up

[pure loom]

The white marks look either like clouds or some old drawing of a building

[sick stone]

Let's just hope it's not a fish

https://tenor.com/view/red-alerts-gif-9406547

Gonna put this here to make it readily available to those who are interested #AyN :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering

[pure loom]

I know there was some posts about the main website image a day or two ago, but has the character with the dark slash thing across it been brought up recently?

It looks like an O with a line across it

[sick stone]

At least not since I joined the hunt, I'm pretty sure

[sick stone]

Apparently I lied #easter-eggs message

[pure loom]

They were chatting about the R symbol mostly obscured on the right

[sick stone]

I know. I just figured it might be relevant to your query

[sick stone]

Did you guys ever figure out what the symbol is meant to be? Seems like a 0 inside japanese quotation marks to me

[unkempt crypt]

Need me to go there? I can go there tomorrow

[tranquil ivy]

I thought it was a sponsor brand logo

[pure loom]

This would be taking the hunt to a new level! Huygens first pendulum clock is there, apparently.

[unkempt crypt]

And the plakkaat van verlatinghe (which some claim inspired the Declaration of Independence and the first American constitution).

And its a historically significant place anyway

But its only halfway across the country and I get free entrance to any museum so you can always ask me 🙂

On Thursdays I can go anywhere.

[sharp flame]

I just realised that's a logo which flashed up in the trailer

[timid solstice]

I thought they loaded the oil barrels with shells on the boats for ballast and unloaded them on the beaches at the destination where the oil was.

[pure loom]

It’s possible it’s coincidental, but you find fossil pectens in the same age rocks as they extract oil from. Either way, it’s a nice fit for the company.

[pure loom]

Do you mean this one? It looks a bit different eh?

[sharp flame]

Nono another

[tranquil ivy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011929497139953744/1024894401232781352/unknown.png

[sharp flame]

That's it exactly!

[tranquil ivy]

Wooooo

[sharp flame]

So I guess that's what the brand is called

[tranquil ivy]

Enoimo?

Perfect how many sponsors do we have now? (if that's the name)

[sharp flame]

yeah, or maybe that's just a phrase

okay enoimo is not a real word

and Eno Imo either

[tranquil ivy]

Imo = In my Opinion, we got half 💪

[sharp flame]

Eno = Enough?

Enough, in my opinion

[tranquil ivy]

Enough, in my opinion

yeah that!

[sharp flame]

ah yeah we got it

another solve! 🥹

[tranquil ivy]

☝️ step closer

ONE

[sharp flame]

there are only two or so names that we haven't connected to a logo yet

[tranquil ivy]

Uhhhhh let me try and guess

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011929497139953744/1024894398284177489/unknown.png

Roots

[sharp flame]

just realised that's a jr

[tranquil ivy]

Oh yeah

Wait how did we not realize that

lmao

[sharp flame]

I mean I guess we can call the brand Junior

as a working name

[tranquil ivy]

Yeah i think we stick with that for now

cause well what else haha

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011929497139953744/1024894401622839307/unknown.png

[sharp flame]

We also have that armband, on the main site girl

[tranquil ivy]

I think Oak Labs

Or Fish Star

[sharp flame]

Captain Poland

[tranquil ivy]

Polander

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011929497139953744/1024894398678454333/unknown.png

[sharp flame]

Wait colours reversed

Captain Monaco actually

[tranquil ivy]

?

[sharp flame]

That's really similar to the first one

[sharp flame]

Poland flag colours are upside down

[tranquil ivy]

Ohhhh wait now i see

[sick stone]

2 a's and a star? Astar?

[tranquil ivy]

Ooooooo that could work too

[sharp flame]

A Star, is pretty good

yeah

[tranquil ivy]

Astar, Hotolow, Ozpuze, Isuelt, Jr

What's the one that's also in arc?

Oh wait

Enoimo

[sharp flame]

*holtow

[sharp flame]

Oh I think that's a reference

[sick stone]

now for the green L's interlocking

[tranquil ivy]

yeah mb didn't know the real name

[sharp flame]

There are two ARC logos hidden I think

On the trailer and on the helmet

[tranquil ivy]

We know that...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011929497139953744/1024894399794118807/unknown.png

This one

is in arc

And is behind the rollerbots

[sharp flame]

This one

Is behind the raider

[tranquil ivy]

Ohhhh

[sick stone]

Limelight

[tranquil ivy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011929497139953744/1024894401954185286/unknown.png

This is the closest

But not IT

[tranquil ivy]

I like this idea

[sharp flame]

just gotta make up a 6 letter word which sounds foreign

[tranquil ivy]

What if they don't have names for the others and we're just making them up and they use them ahha

[sharp flame]

LADINA

boom

just made one up

[sharp flame]

SR

wait

Saint Rob 🕯️🕯️

[tranquil ivy]

He's everywhere...

[sharp flame]

FOLID-

..

[tranquil ivy]

Hmmmm

Maybe a clothing line at ospuze?

[sharp flame]

doubt they'd do that

if all the other words are brands

like the Enoimo and Ospuze in the same pic

[tranquil ivy]

True

[sharp flame]

Either that word is FOLID or FOLID-something

and finally this

[tranquil ivy]

Rising Star!

[sick stone]

Is this one holtow* then?#easter-eggs message

nvm, just looking at the trailer again and ^ it is not

somehow managed to snag this for a better view

[sick stone]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjunction_(astronomy) The three "stars" in the new year namatama image could point to planetary conjunctions.

[pure loom]

If the answer was a number with a decimal point, should I include the point?

[neon stream]

I guess you would

And I guess the decimal part would be after a point, not a comma

And hopefully, if the whole number part (left part) is a zero, it's also included 😛

I prefer "0.5" over ".5" 😂

[pure loom]

Thanks. I have a new path which I think holds a lot of potential. @sick stone’s post about planetary conjunction reminded me of the song Age of Aquarius, which in turn reminded me of the Earth’s axial precession - essentially the movement of the celestial poles over a long period of time due to tidal forces on the Earth from not only the sun and Moon, but also the planets. Like a spinning top slowly sweeping around while it spins quickly. The shape formed by tracing the Earth’s axis in the sky is not perfectly circular - it probably is oviform. Also, we currently are in the Age of Pisces, with the “ages” lasting about 26,000 years. Pisces could relate to the fish bladder shape of the vesica piscis (overlapped circles). The Chuck Leith clue would fit because of the view of his animations of the northern hemisphere and seasonal changes. It also effects where stars are located in the sky - the southern cross, for instance, is slowly being moved closer to the south celestial pole. The vertical light on the eye of Brown Eyed Girl could be the sun seen through Stonehenge at the summer solstice, the date for which will change over time due to precession. The exact length of the year also comes into it. And… the slashed zero probably represents the Earth with a pole line drawn through it. There are many options for what the password could be… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession

The overlapping circles diagram is even formed in the illustration above ^

Plus the slashed circle of the Earth with its polar axis

[sharp flame]

Wonder why the slashed 0 was digital and glitchy then

[pure loom]

That’s a good question.

[sharp flame]

And with it being called 404, I can't help but wonder what we've missed there

also I'm sure that there is something in the pixel arrangement of that image which will turn out a clue

I guess I just haven't tried it yet 😅

[pure loom]

I don’t think it takes away from the path just yet. Maybe we need to look for that relationship within the precession path?

[sharp flame]

I'm still under the impression that the answer is a thing

With a Capitalised name and all

[pure loom]

It could be still, but perhaps related to the precession path.

[sharp flame]

which we can use (whether its coordinates or index number) as the answer

[sharp flame]

The precession path does fit pretty well

[pure loom]

Yeah, it covers most of the key clues

[sharp flame]

Also with the Piscis clue, I would like to thank Rob for including me in this EE hunt hehe

[pure loom]

🐟

[unkempt crypt]

So am I going to the museum tomorrow?

[tawdry jungle]

Povich about to go on a side quest

[pure loom]

I think you can hold off on that for the moment 😊

[unkempt crypt]

Haha cool, its going to be really bad weather so I’m relieved tbh

[pure loom]

But almost worth it for the record hehe

[sharp flame]

I mean we'd still have to consider Saturn and Titan and Descartes and Halley's comet and etc.

Not to mention all the egg clues

[unkempt crypt]

If you ever need Miffy clues solved, I’m your guy

[pure loom]

Yes, the egg clue is taken care of with the oviform precession circle

[sharp flame]

Hmm, and the X in the Egg?

[pure loom]

X in the egg?

[sharp flame]

There was a Big X on an Egg shaped gun charm

In Beside You

[pure loom]

Hmmm, not sure. At this point I reckon we should explore this path and close to it and see what apples fall out from shaking the tree

[sharp flame]

That's the best way to discover what other clues might mean

[pure loom]

I’m gonna catch some more sleep then jump into it properly in a few hours

[sharp flame]

it's how I got from BIV to the Descartes Crest at least haha

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-time-gif-25989081

[sharp flame]

gn!

[timid solstice]

passwords are only lowercase!

[sharp flame]

yhyh I meant the thing itself

[timid solstice]

just making sure

[sharp flame]

Mendelevium, Aethusa, 79AD

those are 'things'

not sure if I'm expressing myself correctly haha

[pure loom]

Sounds fishy

[pure loom]

"Precession" is derived from the Latin praecedere ("to precede, to come before or earlier") - quite a good fit with the time clue

This is how precession changes the seasons

[pure loom]

There are lots of “things” that could associate with precession. Polar stars change for instance.

[sharp flame]

I think we're going along the right lines with latitude and longitude stuff

[pure loom]

The precession Wikipedia pages are big - lots of possibilities

The rate of precession means that over our lifetime the seasons change by about 1 day

The discovery of precession usually is attributed to Hipparchus (190–120 BC)

[sharp flame]

Perhaps we could put some time into trying keywords for a URL?

[pure loom]

Did we have any confirmation of a URL being involved apart from “/“? / could just represent the Earth’s axis

Jumping ahead a bit here, but this could relate to some info about Seasons in the game

Or weather.

[sharp flame]

Yeah we do

^^

Not complete confirmation but definitely something

[pure loom]

That’s what I mean - if it’s only a / that’s the clue then that could just represent the Earth’s axis and not a URL

Hmmm… it’s tricky because of the / being the first clue we ever had. It’s a pretty memorable clue

There’s so much in the precession Wikipedia. We need to narrow it down. I’ll spend some time on the unsolved numbers clue we have to see if that helps if we solve it.

[sharp flame]

I think both 47 and 48 are mentioned by Dusty/Rob

So / and 0

[pure loom]

Yes, so my interpretation would be axis and Earth then

[sharp flame]

yep makes sense

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashed_zero

if you scroll to the 'combining solidus (/)' the slashed 0 can be created in Unicode by using / and 0 combined

[pure loom]

Earth's symbol is almost the same as the fiducial marker clue

[timid solstice]

Ha I saw that

Funny how we are all on the same wavelength

[pure loom]

I think this is the first time I've looked at Earth's wikipedia page! hahaha

[unkempt crypt]

wdym.. ɜːθ ?

[timid solstice]

I looked at the page because I was looking for the mass comparison to a suspected 10th planet

[unkempt crypt]

D:

[sharp flame]

interesting that planet X was also known as planet O

[fallen jasper]

I always found the fact that there might be some planet randomly sitting outside of the solar system both incredibly cool and incredibly terrifying

[sharp flame]

terrifying? I just think it's intruiging

unless.. there are aliens 😱

also

it would be

quite cold

there

[fallen jasper]

I mean more in the sense of we can't even find a planet this close to us, imagine what else we're missing out in the great play that is the universe.

[sharp flame]

a lot

[pure loom]

82 and 48 could be the atomic numbers of lead and cadmium

I'm gonna work on this: 1404E210DDFD 4FA5E227933D2 1A3DC

If converted from decimal to roman numerals it gives "1404 4 1"

Probably a coincidence with the first number: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_1404

[sharp flame]

it kinda looks like the first number in each of those

1404E210DDFD 4FA5E227933D2 1A3DC

[pure loom]

hmmm, yeah, I think a trashy conversion, lemme play with separating the digits into pairs

[sharp flame]

the 404 cameo in that phrase is quite interesting

[pure loom]

true

[sharp flame]

the 1404 makes me think that that first word is supposed to be a Time format of some sort

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Battista_Alberti

1404 person of interest

[pure loom]

Look at the details on one of his buildings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palazzo_Rucellai

[hidden nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[pure loom]

"A fourth "hidden" floor under the roof was for servants."

[pure loom]

This looks good, but I'd like to decipher the whole thing if we can - maybe it's more than one clue

Did anyone else notice that Tier 1E and 1F are already unlocked? https://www.reachthefinals.com/tfee-level2

(as in we can enter passwords for those levels)

On the password page, you can enter pw's for 1e and 1f if you want - in the past, the next tiers have always been locked

Tier 2 is locked

Rob may have unlocked them so we can move onto them quickly if we cracked the pw fast

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842

[pure loom]

These are the pixels from the 404 NamaTama image that are out on their own. It looks like there are two distinct groups - maybe showing Earth and the Moon?

[vital cove]

can confirm, it is now tomorrow and the weather SUCKS

[boreal trench]

I was just looking at the easter wiki because I feel like the Year Zero links are significant, and I think I found a link to the 404 page. On the page it says "It looks like our friend ran out of luck… Hey, don’t worry it’s just a 404 and our little buddy will respawn happier than ever before, promise.!", and I just realised this could easily be a connection to the Resurrection of Jesus. I also think that the fact that year zero is the only year that does not exist, is to big to ignore.

[sick stone]

Obviously this is a hint that the respawn in game has been increased to 3 days

[sick stone]

"The Modified Julian Date (MJD) was introduced by the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory in 1957 to record the orbit of Sputnik via an IBM 704 (36-bit machine)"

[sharp flame]

agh still no Rob input

I think we might have to solve a clue in the 404 image before we can proceed

cause I think we've been missing out on some of the more advanced clues

hmmm, just realised the 404 page pops up in the rather limited /search page

and this is what they've called the page

...

okay I have a question

for SR

Is the reachthefinals.com/search page affiliated with the EE hunt at all?

I'd settle for an 👀 haha

[neon stream]

... ._. 🙏🏻

[sharp flame]

wasn't sure about tagging him

[neon stream]

Hmmmm yeah... you might come off as annoying by tagging him...

@proud minnow

There you go, I am the annoying one 😂

[sharp flame]

only cause if it is, it's being quite underutilised haha

🇸 🕯️ 🇷
🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️

okay I wanna put some more clues into the furnace but I don't wanna bury this question

"EUREKA: The expression is also the state motto of California, referring to the momentous discovery of **gold **near Sutter's Mill in 1848"

gold appears again, the symbol of the Sun

oh crap

it's element 79 ( from 79AD )

wait that completely confirms it for me

[neon stream]

I think you found a golden clue 😂

[sharp flame]

unless of course that was intended for last tier

since Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory was notable for turning Lead into Gold

unless it's again another connection

[neon stream]

The Spanish colonizers were notable for doing that too back in the day...😅

[sick stone]

we need a "👀 " or something

[sharp flame]

I miss that

anyway this does bring me back to this

Au

[sick stone]

The good 'ol days

[sharp flame]

"Their symbol for gold was the circle with a point at its center (☉), which was also the astrological symbol and the ancient Chinese character for the Sun."

[sick stone]

If we go there I got a feeling the sun is going to end up as the "yolk" in this easter egg. Will probably relate to some quasi-satellite type deal if that's the case

[sharp flame]

Gold also represents the sun

[sick stone]

We need more recruits

but where to find them?

[pure loom]

Which could link to “82”

But 48 is cadmium

[sharp flame]

Pb Cd

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_CD-ROM

cd and stores 1 pb of data

WAIT

read the line after the bullet points

AND bullet point no.4

[neon stream]

👀

[sharp flame]

haha wow what a coincidence

[pure loom]

Eureka

And Ø

[sharp flame]

obviously quite a loose connection to 82 48

still, had a little Eureka moment myself for a second 🤣

[pure loom]

And fluorescence!

[pure loom]

This has to be the right path. Way too many connections

[sharp flame]

CDs?

[pure loom]

Yes

[sharp flame]

worth a dig around

also I think I was wrong about the answer being a "Thing"

more leaning towards it being a term for something

[pure loom]

We have Pb Cd, fluorescence, Ø, Eureka all on the same Wikipedia page

[sharp flame]

what were the fluorescence clues again?

[pure loom]

The glowing Ø

“In November 1999, the disk was presented at EUREKA "48th World exhibition of Innovation and New Technology" in Brussels.”

And Brussels

https://tenor.com/view/brussels-sprouts-vegetables-rotating-food-healthy-food-gif-18985437

Hmmm, what about oviform though? A CD is perfectly round

A search for “egg CD” just finds articles about the band ‘Egg’ - this is curious though: In mid-1969, to capitalise on the psychedelic rock market, Stewart, Campbell and Brooks contributed to the one-off studio project Arzachel, named after a moon crater. Also featured in that project was Steve Hillage (on summer holiday from university), who had like the others been a member of the pre-Egg band Uriel. Egg were by that time under contract to Decca, therefore all were credited under pseudonyms.”

[sharp flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Jupiter

Ctrl+F for 'CD'

[pure loom]

[pure loom]

I’m on mobile

[sharp flame]

oh okay

[pure loom]

What does it show?

[neon stream]

McDowell! /s

[sharp flame]

there's a storm on Jupiter called Oval BA (we mentioned this earlier)

"Jovian observer Elmer J. Reese labeled the dark sections AB, CD, and EF"

[sharp flame]

very loose connection compared to the others though

[pure loom]

That code we were working on yesterday had lots of those letters

[neon stream]

(It does show "McDowell" too, but I doubt that's what fish meant 😛)

[pure loom]

This is proof this works

[neon stream]

Told you... ._.

😛

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-dark-gif-23266199

[neon stream]

Our productivity increases when we have more SRs 😂

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-lisa-join-us-gif-13066208

😂

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-a-conflict-of-interest-sacrifice-daniella-hernandez-interference-conflicted-gif-26557090

[sharp flame]

waiting on that reply from SR... 🙏

https://tenor.com/view/cnft-cult-cnft-cult-gif-23185807

[pure loom]

“A CD is made from 1.2-millimetre (0.047 in) thick, polycarbonate plastic”

47

[neon stream]

It's not a cult, just lost hunters looking for guidance from SR 😂

... ._.

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/smaug-dragon-wake-up-gif-18590731

[sharp flame]

👀

[neon stream]

SR typing... ._.

[proud minnow]

Hi all.!
Today I woke up, I dreamt that you solved it.!

[neon stream]

It works, you see.... 😂

[hidden nacelle]

...

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/andysamberg-snl-inspirational-dream-gif-4642309

[proud minnow]

You are so close it drives me CrAzy.!

[sharp flame]

Question for you Rob:

[neon stream]

"drives" 👀

💿

[proud minnow]

No it isn’t… ._.

[sharp flame]

oh 😭

[pure loom]

Cr = Chromium or Ca calcium

[sharp flame]

so can we not use it to find URLs?

do the URLs only show up after someone goes to that page for the first time?

[proud minnow]

to be honest I don’t know, I will try in incognito-mode… brb

[sharp flame]

hahahahaha

[sick stone]

CA

[sharp flame]

I'd feel bad for cheating

if we'd actually found anything 😭

[pure loom]

California?

[sharp flame]

Berkley

[pure loom]

We win a trip there if we solve the puzzle! SWEET!

[neon stream]

You see @sharp flame, SR guided you... ._. 🙏🏻

😂

[sharp flame]

🤣

I wanna see the what Rob has to say about his little experiment

[proud minnow]

hmm, if you like to “cheat”… I guess you can use /search… ._.

There are actually multiple reachthefinals/… that you still have to find and experience… ._.

[sharp flame]

oh

I mean it should be a bit easier for previous tiers

[proud minnow]

(some have been there for months… ._.)

[sharp flame]

okay thank you very much!

[proud minnow]

You are welcome.!

[sick stone]

Just gonna point out something obvious (and it might be wrong); Eggs can be spherical, and a lot of different shapes. Why are we only talking about bird eggs?

[fallen jasper]

Hey rob can I ask you something rq

What's the actual name for the geocaching phase? Is it Level 1: Geocaching? Geocache? Geocaching?

[pure loom]

“Oviform” isn’t spherical though

Hmmm…

[sick stone]

thought it was "egg shaped"?

also attached a freak of nature

shark eggs

^

[sharp flame]

we've been considering ovals and ellipses for quite a while

[pure loom]

True that

That’s why I hmmm’d

[proud minnow]

BTW I saw the text from RHB that some future tiers have the same psw… that’s probably just because I made copies of the pages… I will ofc update the passwords when you are on that tier, I thought I did that on all tiers will check that tomorrow.!

[sharp flame]

I'm also not sure if we actually have touched on something very close to the answer or this is just another clue 🤣 🤣

[pure loom]

The tiers are just unlocked, not the same pw (well, I didn’t check to be fair)

[sharp flame]

wait he said that??

oh

I was gonna say

[pure loom]

You can attempt passwords for the next two tiers is what I meant

[sharp flame]

yeah no I thought they were just available for any solo maverick who happened to be one or two passwords ahead of us 😭

[fallen jasper]

Has anyone tried 'egg' yet

[proud minnow]

ahhh

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/inverted-gif-11017395

[proud minnow]

will add psw tomorrow.!

[sharp flame]

ahaha so they were just impossible at the moment

[fallen jasper]

Guys let's just start working on T1E so it throws my timeline off /j

[wet locust]

I haven't paid attention lately. Can we start over?

[fallen jasper]

I will get you up to speed

[wet locust]

Mainly to mess with Rob

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-dude-no-oh-bugs-bunny-bugs-gif-22941840

[sharp flame]

listen to your colleague Rob 🥹

[fallen jasper]

it's all nama

[sick stone]

.!

[neon stream]

That's just Rob typing 😛

[sick stone]

😦

[neon stream]

Same with the "... ._." 😛

Which ofc means SR...😛

[sharp flame]

perhaps the Dream message is a clue?

[neon stream]

"Go to sleep guys, you are nowhere close"

I hope he didn't mean that...

[sick stone]

Don't even say stuff like that in here

Let us live in our shared delusion

https://tenor.com/view/were-having-fun-fun-good-times-happy-enjoying-myself-gif-13646455

[neon stream]

Don't worry, SR believes in us and we believe in him

[fallen jasper]

Password Requirements:

1. All passwords are lower case.
2. There are no spaces in the passwords.
3. Can't be any longer than 30 characters.

I forgot we never bothered writing down or pinning what we know about the passwords so

[sick stone]

I only joined after new years, so I don't get the SR bit..

[hidden nacelle]

sr 🙏

[fallen jasper]

S(aint) R(ob)

[sick stone]

ahh

I see

[sick stone]

The first compact disc (CD) was manufactured in 1982

[neon stream]

Yeah, he ends some of his messages with "... ._.", which is "SR" in morse. So now we say that SR stands for Saint Rob, and that he's the Patron Saint of Easter Egg hunters and Lost Time 😛

[sick stone]

Nice

[neon stream]

@fallen jasper pin that too /j

😂

[neon stream]

(And we add the "🕯️SR🕯️" in our names because of that 😂)

So we get his guidance 😛

100% proven... 😂

...and he works in mysterious ways...like this one...is this supposed to guide us towards CDs or away from them...? 😂

[sick stone]

So we got archimedean spirals connecting to CD's

I've been pondering about orbits around black holes in the back of my mind for a while as a segment of a traced orbit around a black hole can form the shape of an "egg" with a spiral-like orbit.

but seems too far off to be "close"

[neon stream]

Did you watch RHB's (RockhoundBlack) videos about the hunt? or the Doc? it helps understand how these things work and see clues that might be relevant from previous tiers

[sharp flame]

The most vague 👀 he could've done 😅

Unless...

[sick stone]

watched the videos, red A LOT of the discord, summaries and padlet

[sharp flame]

He wants us to find...

[sick stone]

read*

[sharp flame]

An Oviform CD??

Perhaps we're looking for something oval which stores data

[sick stone]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaped_compact_disc

[sharp flame]

My logic is that whatever Rob 👀s now has to be very close, since we are very close

[solar glade]

crack NamaTama open

[neon stream]

Yeah, but he stops using 👀s when we are TOO close

[solar glade]

no data, unfortunate

[sharp flame]

Idk, there was the 👀 for the comet Aethusa

[neon stream]

hmmm true

But we were too newbie back then, he'll probably start removing the training wheels at some point 😅

[sharp flame]

Very very true

however I don't think we've passed by the answer yet

[timid solstice]

If I get this right, looks like we are close with Jupiter's storm?

[sharp flame]

maybe mentioned... synonyms... of it.. but never the answer

[timid solstice]

Saturn had a big storm in 2010

Great White Spot

[sharp flame]

Well it's been a full day of clueing. Could be any of our leads

[timid solstice]

Great White Rabbit ~

[sharp flame]

We are so close. So surely this clue is so close

Also for those who missed it

[neon stream]

I think the clue there could be "drives" too

[pure loom]

A standard DVD holds 4.7 Gb

[neon stream]

The "drives me crazy" reminded me of the Fine Young Cannibals song, but I doubt that's a clue 😂

[sharp flame]

or there is no clue 😭

[neon stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtvmTu4zAMg

😛

[sharp flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_Drives_Me_Crazy

[sharp flame]

oh

[fallen jasper]

raw and cooked

[sharp flame]

Adventure A: Planet of Death (1982)

[sick stone]

That was on a floppy disk, right?

[sharp flame]

mainly Compact Cassette

built in floppy disk drive in 1987

[sick stone]

https://www.quora.com/My-blood-pressure-is-82-48-Is-this-a-cause-of-emergency-I-am-also-lightheaded-and-dizzy

#solved

haha, jk

[sharp flame]

you cannot imagine how many times I skipped past that webpage 🤣

University of California, Berkeley's Motto is "Let There be Light"

interesting

[neon stream]

That's a REALLY low blood pressure 😅

[sick stone]

would've been impressive if they had actually managed to have this random guy's blood pressure be a vital link😂

[sharp flame]

'vital' hehe

[sick stone]

that was not intentional 😂

[neon stream]

If his hands were also cold, we could have it pointing to a certain song by The Killers...😛

Maybe Rob is telling us we are looking for a Human after all... 😂

https://tenor.com/view/brando-brandon-flowers-music-yes-sir-salute-gif-16476679

[sick stone]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_number_(time)

[sharp flame]

waiiit that's very very connected

Gold, Easter, Calendar Years

[sick stone]

..,golden ratio, computus (orbit of the moon)

[fallen jasper]

I am beginning work on a recap document for the hunt with a friend

a sneak peek

[sharp flame]

damn

steganographic

[supple hazel]

I'm 'a friend'

lol

[solar glade]

hello friend

[fallen jasper]

You are a rising star but don't have any of the assignable roles

Truly not a real fan

[supple hazel]

I leave it all in the game

[fallen jasper]

[pure loom]

Untidy

[supple hazel]

for the record I just noticed that the roles were added after I joined and I haven't played this release yet so I didn't notice xD

[unkempt crypt]

I’m pretty sure rising star and contestant were here in september already 😮

[sharp flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Assembly

CA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka!_(video_game)

and eureka

haha I never knew

[fallen jasper]

Eureka! is a text adventure set in **European **history.

Modern Caribbean: Set in the Caribbean in the 1980s.

[pure loom]

Guys, I might have a strong lead...

This is the pole marker at the South Pole base in Antarctica - it looks like a combination of Saturn and Jupiter.

The South Pole has had people winter over there since 1957

[fallen jasper]

I've got a friend at CA I can ask if the entire studio has been roped into a EE by a Swedish guy in his freetime /j

[pure loom]

Theoretically, Antarctica would be located in all time zones

[sharp flame]

very interesting. even if this marker isn't it, what is the explanation for that middling ring?

[pure loom]

This is the dome at the South Pole

[fallen jasper]

Stopped being used in 2010

Oh it was dismantled in late 2009 :(

[pure loom]

Carl Sassenrath who implemented one of the first CD-ROM set-top boxes visited there in 1982 - he lived in Eureka, California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sassenrath

Here he is next to the pole marker then

Machines used for transport there, like this tractor, do have chevron tracks

[timid solstice]

I just found a new page from the search bar

its blank

https://www.reachthefinals.com/realnamatama

[fallen jasper]

....

NAMA TAMA IS FAKE THERE IS NO NAMA TAMA

[sharp flame]

wait WHAT

[timid solstice]

i was trying to type reach

[pure loom]

NamaTama is holding ICE not a mineral

[fallen jasper]

hmm

[pure loom]

there is even a name for the ragged edges on it - lemme find it

[sharp flame]

oh I thought it was a hologram

on account of the artefacts

[pure loom]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rime_ice

[sharp flame]

and glow

and 404 stuff

[pure loom]

glacial ice appears that blue colour

[fallen jasper]

Can still be both

Holographic Ice

[pure loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbEOGtf4hv8

[fallen jasper]

Does this have connection to anything else though

[pure loom]

so we have saturn/jupiter, 1957, triangular forms like the Swedish square, Carl Sassenrath CD-ROM Eureka California, chevron tracks, ice with a rime ice coating on it (NamaTama image)

[proud minnow]

LOL… Love U Partikel.!

[proud minnow]

You are actually the first one to ask… the first level is called LEVEL 1 - THE C0MMENCE

[sharp flame]

0 instead of O...

hehe very interesting

[fallen jasper]

Thank you! I'm starting to write out a more in depth recap and I was starting to call it the prelude, thanks for the confirmation.

[sharp flame]

also I'm sure some titles are about to be hastily added to everything haha

[fallen jasper]

SHHHH FISH

[sharp flame]

LUP...

idk if he would hide a clue like that.. but I wouldn't put it past him

[proud minnow]

No, they were baptized back in 2020… ._.

[sharp flame]

haha I meant on our end

[proud minnow]

ahhh… haha

[neon stream]

How long does it take you to create a Tier? 🤔

(I'm just curious 😂 )

[sharp flame]

not as long as we'll take to solve it 🤣

[proud minnow]

WAY longer actually haha

[terse ivy]

we doing a geocaching phase???

[fallen jasper]

I have now realized THE PROMISE is all caps aswell

[neon stream]

100% worth it

[fallen jasper]

Time to rename... every post... to match....

[sharp flame]

oh so very much worth it

[proud minnow]

You ain’t seen nothing yet…

[terse ivy]

i claim that image as mine now as it was posted on my birthday

[sharp flame]

I think we're just getting caught up in Rabbit Holes too often!

[fallen jasper]

[sharp flame]

we've spent too long without realising we could perhaps find the URLs to prop ourselves up

they will only prove more useful as the Passwords become less surface-level

[terse ivy]

cant someone just make a bot to put every possible password into the code thing

easy stuff

[proud minnow]

haha ok I will have to do a Frxsty bday edition later this year then.!

[terse ivy]

🤯 👍 , i will come back to this message next 9th september

[sharp flame]

I'm sure there are safeguards

[terse ivy]

idk how to even do it but isnt it called brute forcing or smthing

[neon stream]

It is, don't do it

[fallen jasper]

You would have better luck winning the lottery and getting shot by a deer than you would randomly putting in possible passwords.

[neon stream]

The fun is in the journey

[sharp flame]

my Bday is in a week, hopefully next tier can be my Bday image, but who knows 😭

[terse ivy]

i see now you said it , i shall do it ( dont even know how a single line of code works)

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-speak-for-yourself-dan-levy-david-david-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20778398

[terse ivy]

happy early birthday cus i will forget

[proud minnow]

That would be super easy, but also super boring, like solving The Secret of Monkey Island with a Walkthrough on the other screen… ._.

[fallen jasper]

If you tried to brute force you way into T1C your computer and everyone alive would've been dead for a hundred trillion years before it guessed '5f137s2'

[neon stream]

Yeah, we are here for the challenge, not the answer 😂

[sharp flame]

or finishing Minecraft in Creative mode, hahaha

[terse ivy]

aha thankyou for the code

[sharp flame]

actually the likelihood of **5f137s2 **being guessed by a computer is the exact same as grenade if it does it per character

[proud minnow]

But it is actually very easy to figure it out if you just connect the clues, right..?

[neon stream]

left

[fallen jasper]

Yes. Really easy. I in fact already know the answer: cheese

[sharp flame]

maybe not very 😭

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/easy-peasy-billy-butcher-karl-urban-the-boys-lemon-squeezy-gif-25925173

[proud minnow]

You solved it pretty fast…

[sharp flame]

oh, we did?

I guess that buys us some time for this one 🤣

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-pills-will-ferrell-zoolander-gif-11205340

[terse ivy]

watch it be completing the easter egg hunt a requirement for the full release , game will release in 4 years

[sharp flame]

https://www.reachthefinals.com/realnamatama any comment on this?

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/wondering-nacho-libre-wonderbread-thinking-jack-black-gif-18537222

[fallen jasper]

It has been updated

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/care-to-elaborate-lauren-german-chloe-decker-lucifer-please-explain-gif-17390851

[fallen jasper]

Rob must be punished for spreading unjust truths about Nama Tama. There is no 'real' Nama Tama as that implies that in some capacity there is a 'fake' Nama Tama.

[proud minnow]

There is actually a story about the fake NamaTama… and one day you might figure it out… ._.

[fallen jasper]

[pure loom]

Maybe it's Schrödinger's NamaTama?

[fallen jasper]

Nama Tama doesn't exist because we aren't playing the Beta, therefore, The Beta doesn't exist.

[neon stream]

https://www.reachthefinals.com/thestoryaboutthefakenamatama

[pure loom]

cogito, ergo sum

[neon stream]

no luck

[fallen jasper]

My yacht's name in GTA is Caveat Emptor

[sharp flame]

found this guy. his name translates to fake egg

[fallen jasper]

Hmmm

[terse ivy]

cursed

[terse ivy]

oh no

[timid solstice]

pls no

[terse ivy]

who would decide to draw that

you gotta go wrong somewhere in life to wake up and decide to draw a egg yolk man

[sharp flame]

it's from a cute animated show about talking yolks

I don't see the problem

[fallen jasper]

Rob clearly watched too much of Adventure Time

[terse ivy]

cute???? this is CUTE???

[terse ivy]

now thats cute

[sharp flame]

relatable

[sharp flame]

I want to gouge my eyes out

[fallen jasper]

Hmmmmm

[sharp flame]

vindicated

[terse ivy]

they even made a tomato throwing up and a pepper fart somehow not weird

[fallen jasper]

I watched this as a kid

[terse ivy]

ye adventure time>>>

[sharp flame]

no it's definitely weird

also, sentient sandwich

also I love the show

[fallen jasper]

The dancing lettuce guy is cool

[terse ivy]

i aint listening to a guy that calls this cute

[sharp flame]

he aint

the show is

[terse ivy]

hmm thats what they all say

[sharp flame]

anyway there's also a fake egg in the 007 series

"a counterfeit Fabergé egg" to be precise

[timid solstice]

ive solved it /j

[terse ivy]

so is he the real nama tama?

[timid solstice]

interesting filenames

#easter-eggs message

[sharp flame]

those do seem the most peculiar

[timid solstice]

im booting photoshop

[sharp flame]

they might (I use might very weakly here) be related to the EE content?

[timid solstice]

maybe we missed something

[sharp flame]

we've missed a lot of things to be fair

in every corner

I'm sure if you look at any part of the EE hunt for long enough you'd find a nice little neat connection

Is it just me or does the OU in Ospuze look a lot like a fishing hook?

[timid solstice]

Maybe "real nama tama" is an eminem / real slim shady joke.... he has no legs so he cant "stand up!"

[sharp flame]

kinda cruel if you think about it hahaha

[timid solstice]

I think its in the style of the can pull ring

[sharp flame]

ohh yeeah

a 'pull tab'

that's actually great design

[timid solstice]

this should be a url https://www.reachthefinals.com/holtow

if it follows the other sponsor pages

[fallen jasper]

Hey rob if you're still watching can we get the holtow page yet

It's my favorite company because I like the name and nothing else

[sharp flame]

Also, I think Season 0 might be intentional for EEs (as another reference)

as another 0 reference

specially after Part 1 is called the C0MMENCE

[timid solstice]

0h thats g00d

[sharp flame]

oooh side connection

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Franck_von_Franckenau

"The custom was first mentioned in Georg Franck von Franckenau's De ovis paschalibus in 1682, referring to a German tradition of an Easter Hare bringing eggs for the children."**

was looking into the first EE hunts

became Professor of Medicine at the University of **Heidelberg **in 1679.

can't help us but I'm pretty sure EEs and their history is a nice side-tie in

also revisited the Mayan 0 which appeared

"The Maya had however a quite accurate estimation of 365.2422 days for the solar year at least since the early Classic era."

[pure loom]

"may have appeared" - I think whatever that is, is still up for debate

[sharp flame]

understandable. still I think with all the confirmed 0 clues it's a pretty likely bet. All the other symbols for 0 look like ovals cept this one, and it happens to look almost identical to the shape on the pin.

however I think Rob does do clues which double as other clues

perhaps there is a Mayan Zero shape, while also being the letters O C D

or something

speak of the devil

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California_Observatories

super possible lead

[fallen jasper]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kraft_(astronomer)

[sharp flame]

been seeing a lot of Telescopes show up in my work

also I wanna bring back the Cowslip = Bull***t path

cause it could stand for B.S. (the professional one)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_rotation also, leading on from that guy,

[short wasp]

@Duhmeister#0001

[sharp flame]

@tulip matrix *

[neon stream]

Duh is just giving us a head start

[short wasp]

Ignore that lmao I messaged by accident 🗿

[fallen jasper]

💀

[short wasp]

Keep up the work good work guys🤙

[fallen jasper]

:)

[neon stream]

Do you have a URL for that one yet? 🤔

[fallen jasper]

This one is still a work in progress

As in, uh, only half of the first level is done because I'm waiting for Magic to go through and improve it

[tulip matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/emerging-entrance-im-here-rita-repulsa-power-rangers-gif-13514758

+10 points if you know the reference

[boreal trench]

Just wanted to explore an alternate interpretation of Dusty's latest message. I feel like you could also read it like this. "I can confirm there are, zero-spaces, in this tier and Rob informs me that zero passwords, will have spaces 🙏". I just think this could be a possible interpretation since zero spaces are a thing and this could be a zero password.

[pure loom]

Exploring back through what we've already looked at, following Rob's "You solved it pretty fast…" message - I did notice that Cassini ovals bear a remarkable resemblence to the eyes of this little ._. critter

Also critter's body looks like a bunch of ovals/superellipses joined together

What critter's name?

._.

R

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-day-chuckmccarthy-pirates-gif-9796383

[sharp flame]

Hear me out

[tranquil ivy]

Ohio.

Or handcuffs

or a knot

[boreal trench]

in the past the namatama's have pointed directly to the format of the password, I think the 404 namatama with zero, is probably hinting at the format for this tier being binary, which might link with the Hyper CD-ROM stuff.

[pure loom]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-do-you-see-it-i-can-see-it-do-you-see-that-focus-gif-15667436

Critter and NamaTama are both in on this

[sharp flame]

The face being Morse is definitely something I can see

[pure loom]

Oh 100%

I know this doesn’t translate, but 404 and ._. don’t seem that different

There’s something in this tier about the ovals that make NamaTama and Critter

[sharp flame]

There's also a connection between Virgin Mary and Easter Eggs

It's on the Easter Bunny wiki page if you want to find out

[timid solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/flute-power-ranger-green-ranger-dragonzord-gif-16538656

[sick stone]

I believe the page links Virgin Mary to the symbolism of hares in general. Of course this connects to easter hares. However there is another direct link between Virgin Mary and easter called kyriopascha, which is a rare occurance dependant on the paschal full moon and the ecclesiastical equinox, which in turn is directly linked to the Gregorian calendar and the Golden Numbers. I have been leaning back to epochs and equinoxes as password formats after @pure loom's comment on precession, although reading through the wikipedia page relating to precession says "The precession of the Earth's axis has a number of observable effects. First, the positions of the south and north celestial poles appear to move in circles against the space-fixed backdrop of stars, completing one circuit in approximately 26,000 years.". I believe the reference to it not being circular won't point to it being oviform though, as it would most likely be the result of gravitational effects of celestial bodies other than the sun and moon, causing it to be more of a wobbly circle (please correct me if I am wrong). The oviform part might link to precession being the result of earth being an oblate spheroid though. I believe we should look more into epochs and equinoxes, although from my research I do not know which would yield the most results.

In hindsight, it might not relate to oblate spheroids, but rather prolate spheroids, in which case it would not be a direct link to the shape of the earth.

[supple hazel]

Hey, more than half was done until you went and formatted the whole thing xD

I'll be finishing level 1 today 🙂

[sick stone]

#easter-eggs message we didn't find anything in this one?

[pure loom]

Yeah, it has to be something we covered prior to the precession idea, given Rob’s comment that we came close to solving it (or solved it but didn’t input the correct answer) early on, so it’s potentially not related to that at all.

We uncovered the geometry side early and we have “oviform” confirmed by both Rob and Dusty (possibly the only double confirmation?), so my money is on it being very close to that.

[sick stone]

That's why I'm thinking epoch/eqionox, however linking it to oviform is a bit tricky outside of the vernal equinox connection (easter connection)

[sharp flame]

I mean we also didn't find anything in the 404

[neon stream]

I think RHB is right, we usually have the answer in the first few images and what takes longer is for us to realise the format of the password. It's very likely that we mentioned something close to the password already, Rob's comments would confirm that. We should probably be looking back at previous ideas

[sharp flame]

What I still don't quite get about it is the A in the OVIFORM clue

perhaps it could mean OVIFORM A

Basically a theta symbol

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopsephy

very very interesting when looking at Rob's 831 message

Skull clue 💀

[unkempt crypt]

that the phonetical sign for th* of Think and such

[sharp flame]

Theta has a value of 9

Planet X is the 9th planet

Hmmm

[sharp flame]

You're not wrong about the earth thing

[unkempt crypt]

Yeah

I know i'm not

haha

/ɜːθ/ < Earth

[sharp flame]

Oh I thought you previously meant in the phonetic sense or something

[unkempt crypt]

yeah

[sharp flame]

not sure what we'd do with this lead

[unkempt crypt]

nothing.. I just.. don;t know much more than phonetics because its my job to know

I'm not a great EE hunter xD

[sharp flame]

we have had plenty of latitude/longitude and measuring the earth clues

still, thanks for the contribution though haha

[unkempt crypt]

some day..

I'll be the only one knowing something

[sharp flame]

Make up a new word

start using it, other people start using it

but you'll know that you were the first

🧠

[pure loom]

I had an idea for an “oviform” path that fits with Ø and the “time” clue, and the square with triangles we’ve seen, but I can’t figure out a password or find a related oval rather than sphere. I was thinking about if time 0 could be New Year’s Eve and I thought of the ball drop (which looks a bit like a vertical Ø) in Times Square, New York City. The problem is, it’s not really oviform. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_Square_Ball

There are lots of time balls around the world though: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_ball

[sharp flame]

I recognize that place

It's observatory officially no. 000

[pure loom]

Also, lots of other objects are dropped on New Years Eve around the world - the list is hilarious to read: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_objects_dropped_on_New_Year's_Eve

I couldn’t find an egg though…

“Havre de Grace, Maryland – An eight-foot long, five-foot high wood-and-plastic foam lit duck has been dropped since 2000.” 🐤

Who comes up with these ideas??

[neon stream]

None of us is, we are all learning together, that's why is taking us so long 😂
You can join us any time if you want 💪🏻

[pure loom]

The Beatles put in 10,000 hours before they became famous. We’re just getting started!

Unfortunately, Rob already put his 10,000 hours in at DICE

We’re playing catch up

[pure loom]

Speaking of large, this looks interesting: http://english.eastday.com/Latest/u1ai8659453_K23558.html

Shanghai Planetarium

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Astronomy_Museum

[wintry lantern]

thats alot of progress

[sharp flame]

we still need more 😂

hope its progress towards the answer at least

[pure loom]

Oviform my life

I’ve looked at so many egg-shaped buildings now, I don’t know what to consider next. If NamaTama’s name is Japanese, maybe something in Japan? But there’s really nothing else pointing to that.

Aside from sports grounds and special architecture, what else is oval shaped?

[pure loom]

I reckon we should focus on these seeing as Rob 👀 'd them

[pure loom]

Ok, this took some finding - it was mentioned in a PhD thesis - but this is who Moss’s egg is named after. A lot of her art seems to fit very well in the shapes and forms that are presented in the images: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlow_Moss

https://artuk.org/discover/stories/queering-constructivism-the-legacy-of-marlow-moss

You can see some of her work here ^

[pure loom]

She passed away in 1958

Some pretty cool geometric sculptures

[sharp flame]

Could it actually be that the answer is somewhere here?

[sharp flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rømer_scale

very interesting page I stumbled upon

when looking at R and 0

mentions Galileo too

[boreal trench]

as mentioned before the 404 dashed 0 looks frozen, i was trying to find a link to absolute zero, but this seems to work better

[sharp flame]

okay making this grid pattern more clear

[boreal trench]

i feel like one of the last thing we have left to explore is the coordinate stuff, and space coordinates. maybe thats what the grid is?

[pure loom]

Yes, but I think that might have been pointing to Cartesian ovals, which is how we got ovals confirmed. It could be worth exploring anyway.

[boreal trench]

yeah not to sure, in terms of space coordinates, every time i try and have a look into it I always just end up feeling like it gets way to complex and you would actually need to study it at university to understand it. But maybe im just giving up to quickly.

[sick stone]

Also one of the reasons I feel like epochs/equinoxes is a good candidate as it is not too hard to understand, relates to time and space coordinates, celestial spheres, geocentric model/heliocentric model and connects to calendars and easter to name a few

[boreal trench]

Yeah I agree, I like epochs/equinoxes as well

[sick stone]

aequinoctium would’ve made a good password though

Obviously not the password, just would’ve been a good one

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time I’ve also been thinking about Unix time and Y2K. I’ll look into it later today to see if I can find any more connections aside from the obvious ones

[pure loom]

Yeah, I’ve had a few words like that.

[sharp flame]

I don't think the oval is all Descartes can give us though. In the same way that Cassini ovals shouldn't let us discount the other science he did, (and the probe)

[pure loom]

Except “oviform” was confirmed

[pure loom]

This fellow passed away on January 1 1970: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Lauck_Parson

Possibly related for his work on toroidal rings

[sharp flame]

Rob's all about connecting clues in multiple ways

[pure loom]

I agree. I don’t think we should discount either path

[sharp flame]

Woah that connects very well with last tier

His work was on electron orbits

I'd treat Electron Condigs just as if a 79AD or Heidelberg had shown up

[sharp flame]

good find!

[neon stream]

aka the Alfred Parson's Project /s

[pure loom]

Thanks! Maybe ovals and Mendeleev crossover somewhere?

[sharp flame]

I mean I think the answer was electron orbits

Now a whole clue thread is also orbits

[pure loom]

An oval electron orbit

[sharp flame]

It's already pretty tied together

[pure loom]

True

I really meant maybe the answer lies in there

[sharp flame]

You'd be surprised to hear that electrons are not actually particles orbiting

'electron orbit' I think actually refers to a probability cloud of where the electron (which is actually a wave) could be located

but now that you mention it, they do look very similar to the weird oval shapes we've been seeing

[pure loom]

Yeah, chemistry wasn’t my strong point. Hehe

[sharp flame]

just emptying stuff I learned at school out of my head

to make room for EE content 😂

[pure loom]

I gotta dash, but while starting to look at this I saw the word “harmonics” pop up - that could be a good crossover to the music “clues”

[neon stream]

I was thinking about this question, and I thought about planetariums. This reminded me that there's a planetarium in Buenos Aires called Galileo Galilei, which I thought was funny given previous tiers 😂

[pure loom]

Yeah, I’ve looked at so many of these and camera obscuri (plural?) as well.

For me, the question now is does “oviform” point to another shape/thing similar to that, or something else associated with Descartes. If it’s the latter, how would the egg equation make sense? Surely it has to be a shape or object? I thought finding the Moss’s egg namesake was a real breakthrough because she was so hard to find, but I couldn’t find the next step.

Maybe it’s an object made by another artist associated with her?

[timid solstice]

Maybe the answer is in Leetspeak

o = 0

And the random eggplant clue was leet speak

[pure loom]

Maybe. But 79AD made sense to be in Roman numerals, whereas we’d need something relating to leet to have it in that. Maybe an egg object made by a 1990s game developer?

[pure loom]

I think eggplant’s main point was The Matrix, which in turn points to pill which is a capsule which is amongst egg references and Cartesian ovals. It might have a secondary meaning too.

[shrewd shell]

There is an atomic element “0” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutronium that @boreal trench and I looked into if you are looking for a connection to past levels. For me, the current level is basically pointing to an Easter Egg hunt. From 404 “not found” through all the planetary / calendar stuff then rabbits and eggs. I looked through the history of Easter and Easter egg hunts (both real and like the one we are in) but got nowhere. If I have actually followed the wrong rabbit, and it ends up that I should have followed Dujour to the night club OR Alice down the rabbit hole… I’m gonna cry and laugh till I cry.

[sharp flame]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulcan_(hypothetical_planet)

a supposed sighting of this hypothetical planet actually turned out to be the discovery of sunspots

Vulcan is the god of Volcanoes... (Pompeii/79AD reference?)

and I'm kinda warming up to the ice path, with it being 0 degrees C and such

in terms of the slashed 0...

"It was commonly used during the punch card era,"

punch cards are all about binary yes/no holes

[sharp flame]

https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1104831

just cause the 110D831 was bugging me

this is in Devon

listed 1985

okay a lot happens in 1985 haha

Super Mario is released

DNA forensics is used for the first time

Ronaldo and Bruno Mars are born

ooh

[timid solstice]

I'm not sure about the ice theory, it looks digital to me, like a hologram

[pure loom]

Yeah, also considering Rob immediately came into the chat and didn’t 👀 any of the South Pole stuff suggested to me it’s not the right path.

[timid solstice]

yeah not even a

[hidden nacelle]

[sharp flame]

I think our answer is a space thing

We've had very many clues pointing at orbiting objects (satellites, moons, objects) and also, distinctly, Saturn/Titan. The ovals seem to also point at orbits, since orbits are all ellipses (proved by Kepler)

And then we have semi-related, heliocentricity and the Sun (Apollo and Sun's surface clues)

But now we also have 404, TBL. Interweb stuff.

And finally we have Ø, so we want something to connect all this.

[hidden nacelle]

yep

[sharp flame]

I need to rest 😭

gn all

[shrewd shell]

Or ... do all of the space things like planets, moons and orbits, zeroes point to Eggs.

Rob did say they were all equal remember.

If I want to push the Easter angle:

Copernicus - sun at the centre of our universe, like a yolk at the centre of an egg
Descartes - "I think therefore I am" - think symbol is like sun symbol
Mayan zero, all the 0's and Planets and Moons and Orbits and of course the Oviform formula - Eggs.
Rabbits - White Rabbit, Watership Down

Then add in the "Not Found" - 404 - Rabbits and not found eggs. Sounds like Easter to me.

The only thing that threw me off the Easter angle was the small trip to Planet Nine / Planet X - that made a lot of sense. Especially the bit @boreal trench linked with the Bowie thing. But I can't find a way through that path either! So many good password attempts - nada!!

If the password format is linked to the latest nama tamas then I'll need someone to decipher the Agent and 0 ... because I can't see how that helps!! Binary is a good a guess as I've seen - but it does look like a hologram to me.

[neon stream]

I'm watching the movie Sleeping with the Enemy right now...guess which song is played on it...? Brown Eyed Girl by Van Morrison 😂

This EE hunt is everywhere 😂

[pure loom]

I’ve started going back over old ideas and searched for “325” for the original clue from the 404 page. Look what fact someone noted back in August.

[pure loom]

I was driving along behind a motorcycle with a sidecar today and thought “a sidecar is quite egg-shaped.” Then I was like “wait, it has three wheels plus a spare (0=O=o=Ø), then I was thinking the Huygens probe was kind of like a sidecar on the Cassini probe!

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

[fallen jasper]

NamaTama's children!

[sharp flame]

Tetris Effect

😭

[pure loom]

I had the idea that an oviform shape could be a teardrop but alas it’s not the answer (nor is a bunch of words similar to that)

[sick stone]

Probably not relevant, but on the off chance that it becomes relevant for some later EE the symbols for "Earth" and "Sun" are also used to describe the direction of current through a cross section of a wire, here exemplified by a diagram of the direction of a magnetic field through an electric coil (electromagnet):

From reading a little about unix time there is probably of no use for us right now: If it is a format for the password then we don't have a specific enough area to make it viable. There is also a couple of different formats to display it, so if it were relevant the easiest thing would be to write a quick Python script to do some calculations, but that doesn't seem like it would be in the scope of the EE hunt, this would probably be the fastest way to check >8 candidate times, so I think we can safely ignore Unix time for now.

[pure loom]

That’s interesting. The symbol for the sun is the same as Australian Aboriginals use to represent a waterhole, which, in a way, would be a centre for them, locally.

[pure loom]

I was just thinking that the removal of the “o”s could indicate calculations without zero, which can be done on an abacus. The beads on an abacus are round not oviform though, I think.

Also, on another couple of paths, the mention of snares around Cowslip’s burrow could also be a reference to snare drums, if it’s a musical path.

Richard Adams, author of Watership Down also made a voyage through the Antarctic in the company of the ornithologist Ronald Lockley, not that the South Pole path looks that strong anymore.

[sharp flame]

I mean it's either that or the removal of the O's means an O crossed out

[pure loom]

Also, “oviform” means egg-shaped, which could refer to the actual egg, not the shell. In which case that would open up things like biological cells. Interestingly, Richard Adams died of a blood disorder. You could think of veins and arteries like a rabbit warren. Just a few ideas I’m tossing around really, but at this stage I think we need to start thinking outside the oval… I mean box!

[pure loom]

Yes, good one too

Probably more likely

[sharp flame]

I say that cause Rob stopped doing it once we started looking into the symbol

[sharp flame]

okay, gonna try to read into this 0 here

It's definitely more of a Zero and less of an O here

or at least it isn't a perfect circle

which rules out the Diameter symbol

and perhaps the empty set symbol too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_404_Titan

an uncanny connection actually

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipse_Titan

not so sure about this one

Saturn was the launch rocket for the Apollo missions (definitely intended)

Titan was the launch rocket for the Gemini missions

Gemini = Double

and has a Double star in the logo

[sick stone]

Due to the line segment protruding out I would say that it's definitely more of a Ø than a 0 or O

[sharp flame]

yeah yeah what I meant to say was a Zero with a line, instead of an O with a line

[sick stone]

I mean Ø as in O with a line, or empty set, or diameter

the slashed 0 doesn't have protrusions, while this one does

[sharp flame]

the last 2 are circular, if you see pictures online

I can't seem to find any which are as 'tall' as the one on the image

if you know what I mean

[sick stone]

I agree, however I have neither seen any zero's with protrusions anywhere

[sick stone]

3rd one is taller than it is wide

perhaps we are looking for the danish/norwegian character "Ø"

[sharp flame]

sorry, wasn't insinuating it was a zero, just that it was too un-round to be Diameter or Empty set

there are parts of the symbol with straight line edges

[sick stone]

Ahaa, gotcha

[sharp flame]

I mean there are only so many uses for that symbol

so if we do it by exclusion we're bound to find it

[sick stone]

but when we first found it it was the exact same ASCII for empty set, correct?

[sharp flame]

ohh crap

nevermind

[sick stone]

This seems like it might be a case of unintentional ambiguity

In fact, wasn't it specifically the uppercase version as well? so if we are going to exclude anything it might be the diameter interpretation as it uses a lower case version

[sharp flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haumea

136 108 was a clue in the 3rd image

2 interesting things

First known Ring system for a TNE (transneptunianobject)

it is also one of these

and the observatory that discovered it was Gemini observatory!

3 things then

Haumea's shape is very unique

[sharp flame]

"first referring to its status as a plant of the sun." is I think the main meaning actually

[sick stone]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection#Notable_lines this page mentions how "Tangent and secant lines (standard lines) are represented undistorted. If these lines are a parallel of latitude, as in conical projections, it is called a standard parallel. The central meridian is the meridian to which the globe is rotated before projecting. The central meridian (usually written λ0) and a parallel of origin (usually written** φ0**) are often used to define the origin of the map projection."

which connects to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_meridian_(planets)

[sharp flame]

guess what the latitude symbol is haha

[sick stone]

so lattitude=0

so equator

[sharp flame]

the Cassinis are very involved in that

[sick stone]

If it means latitude=0 then we might be looking for a specific geostationary satellite

[sharp flame]

something to do with coordinates, the equator, and ovals

and then the rest

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Eggplant

not sure if this is connected at all

"In this tale, a king's pregnant wife breaks wind in public and is exiled for it."

😭

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucinodes_orbonalis There was a moth/butterfly above the Eggoplant clue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggplant_run

eggplant, as an easter egg. Hmm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler's_Supernova

[strong hare]

how's the EE hunt goin?

[sharp flame]

we seem to be very close to the answer

but exponentially slowing down as we approach it 😭

[neon stream]

It's going 😂

[strong hare]

oh xd i mean i could help, but i feel like i would just slow things down. that's why I dont talk here. just asked how things are going haha

cuz i like this sort of things

[neon stream]

Any help is welcomed. You won't be the only one slowing things down, we all do that as a team 😂