💬│palia-discussions

[hexed cloak]

If game hours are what the devs need to profit

Well that's the thing. You playing more costs them money, not makes them money. The only thing that makes them money is purchasing coins

[signal kayak]

but, if i play a game for a long time, which means that i enjoy playing it, i would be more inclined to spend money to buy the coins. i don't want to drop money on a game that i don't play (looking at you pokemon unite and the money i spent on you for a while and then didn't even play during the time i spent my money on a battle pass....)

on the other hand, i've been playing minecraft a lot lately, and have thought about dropping some money into the marketplace (i play on switch), i just have to find something that really interests me

[shadow raptor]

Thank you so much! this helpped me so much. my stomach was turning when I was playing

[ivory fjord]

Really glad to hear this is helping others. I was so sick too, and it made me sad because I wanted to love this game! Thank you for letting me know your results ❤️

[loud axle]

That's not quite how that works. You can play all you want, it doesn't cost them a thing. They might need to allocate more resources to hosting more players if the population increases, but with that increase they'd also be getting more people paying into their monetization model.

Basically people playing more = game looks popular = more new players join = more people spend money

[ivory fjord]

I also heard that in game dev, sourcing funding/investors/shareholders is affected by data about player count, influx of new players, play time, etc and one way to affect this is to do a refer a friend program. 👍

[median pivot]

holy moly i just stumbled across this and holy thank u so much u fixed like all the stuff that was giving me a headache LMAFO

[ivory fjord]

So happy this helped your headaches too, I felt so weird thinking it was just me and it being the first time I've experienced it in a game. Thank you for letting me know these steps helped you too 💙

[polar elbow]

Keep in mind this goes both ways.
Purchasing coins might be needed for the game to make money, but you know what's also needed?
Incentivizing people to play the game to begin with. People who aren't playing aren't going to be browsing the cash shop, after all.

You know what small bits of earnable palia coins would do? They get people playing, and they get people looking at the cash shop. Even if you could only earn, say, 25 coins a week, that does have a way of tempting people to make purchases eventually- with earnable currency, someone might reach 425 coins earned, and then decide "yknow what? I'd only have to pay $5 to get that 850-coin outfit now... I'm gonna do it!"

[deep geyser]

I was wondering if anybody had any tips about the hotpot game? I get the goal is the 3 matching but I'm a bit confused on how the tiles are scored and such.

[runic eagle]

https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Hotpot_Minigame

[deep geyser]

Something I am still unsure about is if there is difference in points between different categories and different ingredients. I know that 3-of-a-kind Ingredient set is worth more than a 3-of-a-kind Category. An example of what is unclear would be if 3-of-a-kind bright shrooms would be worth more points than 3-of-a-kind corn?

[willow falcon]

So has anyone else noticed the flock of Silverwings in the sky?

[wispy lance]

I think those are just some sort of seagulls. Silverwings are bigger.

[willow falcon]

Haven't seen Seagulls in palia

[wispy lance]

All 3 of a kind are worth the same. And all 3 of category the same.

Though you only get more gold, 3 of a kind was useful when we used to play hop pot at maji for tickets.

[wispy lance]

Some sort I said 😅.

Silverwings are extinct birds, they wouldn't be just flaying ove kilima

[willow falcon]

But I have one that visits my plot daily... Maybe it's because I finished the temples

[wispy lance]

Yeah that's a special reward. Well they're not entirely extinct (believed to be), but you know more like legendary. You wouldn't see one on a daily basis.

We just happened to find one or I don't remember how the story went.
Same with the kitsu. You won't just stumbled across one in the woods.

[willow falcon]

Yeah, I just noticed they're new to my game lol, probably have to do with the temples. And all the eggs you find lol

[wispy lance]

They're not new. They've been flaying over kilima ince I started playing.
I don't remember if bahari had a flock or not 🤔

[willow falcon]

They weren't on mine until recently...

[wispy lance]

A lot if people said the same about flowers or some of the reeds in plia 😅.
I'm sure it's because of the changes they r making. Improving graphics and stuff.

[willow falcon]

Hmmm...... IDK about that, but ok

[ripe gale]

did you have a group where everyone captured 25 chapaas each? I literally cannot complete that one with ANY group I'm in

[woeful garnet]

I've gotten this same ticket book achievement in 2 previous Maji Markets without having every captured 25 in a single instance.

I'm not exactly sure how that achievement works but I do know that it is not based on your individual captures. It's either based on the entire group capturing 25, combined, or capturing a cumulative number of 25 over more than one game in which you were grouped.

[ripe gale]

there's 2 separate achievements: "total amount in a group" and "amount in a group." the nerfed amt. of chapaas haven't rly helped atm no matter which group I play in the past several days 😦

[dry swift]

They nerfed the # of chapaas in chapaa chase? But why? lol

[olive carbon]

To force keep people coming back to market

[dry swift]

Classic S6. 🤣

[strange oar]

Something I would like to see if request having starred options, its painful to see non-starred items on the fulfill request and do nothing about it.

[dry swift]

I think that has been a popular request for a long time. Idk why it hasn't been put in the game yet.

[strange oar]

It needs to happen, I have so much starred quality crops/seeds to give

[lyric night]

they also mentioned that they would work on star quality requests

one year ago

[dry swift]

Oh right. I remember now, because it would help players "cheat" the temple bundles and get to the point of the game where they realize the game has nothing to do.

Just like item trading is cheating because players would actually make reasonable progress if they could trade resources.

[strange oar]

Well I wish they would just degrade the starred ones so we can fulfill request I think that would be fair

[dry swift]

That's actually perfectly reasonable and fair. Which is why it's not in the game yet.

[loud axle]

No remember according to the diehards plushie trading is 100% a test for actual item trading which will definitely be coming soon.

Despite the fact S6 has said... Nothing to that end, except saying explicitly that they think trading is cheating.

[dry swift]

I'm just here to see how much more they can screw up their own game 😄

"Oh no, we've made x/y/z too much fun! Better nerf it!" (Insert: Starstones, Cake Parties, Chapaa Chase, Palium Mining, Hot Pot)

[lyric night]

thats how it used to work back when open beta started

then they excluded star quality completely from requests bcs of that
was never mentioned ever since

[loud axle]

I think there's a number of us hate watching at this point.

A part of me keeps hoping they can turn it around but ... I just don't know if I see that happening

[unique edge]

We've been making reasonable progress thus far. You don't need trading.

[dry swift]

Sorry I misspoke. I meant to say, if players could trade resources, they would run out of things to do in the game faster after progressing too fast 🙂

[hexed cloak]

That's an easy fix. Make it so that you can deposit an item into a bundle only after you've obtained it "naturally", or make trading one of the bundle rewards, just like the ancient fish unlock

[unique edge]

Well yeah. if you're given end game stuff, then that is true for literally any game.

[mystic forge]

has there been Talk of when the next Major Update is scheduled?

[unique edge]

The game is about progressing. And of course decorating.

[hexed cloak]

Updates are always either on the last or penultimate Tuesday of a month.

[mystic forge]

ok but i mean like Talk of a New area being implemented or a new Profession is what i mean..

[dry swift]

Allegedly 2025. Who knows.

[mystic forge]

ah ok

[dry swift]

I'm sure S6 knows just as much as everyone else that Elderwoods is going to determine whether the game falls flat on its face or not.

[mystic forge]

i mean i have high hopes for Elderwood, it won't take much for me to consider it a Successful Expansion

[dry swift]

You'd be surprised how rocky every patch in this game is lol. Even for seemingly minor updates.

[mystic forge]

i just burn through content Faster then most so i usually end up waiting for updates to drop before i return to play games XD

[hexed cloak]

I need to post screenshots of how long my quest list is sometime, just for the lolz

Most of them are friendship quests

[deep geyser]

Thank you very much! I've been introducing my friends to the game and we were all confused about this. 🤣

[unique edge]

People have been complaining about lack of updates, but honestly that's a good thing most likely that there are so few notable updates. That means they're likely putting everything they have into Elderwoods while using the cosmetics to help fund it.

[dry swift]

We can only hope. Maybe it will actually be good enough to bring players that quit back. Only time will tell.

[unique edge]

That or development has utterly died and it'll never come. But it's better to be more realistic than pessimist.

[wispy lance]

I personally enjoy every update. And can't wait for the next one

[unique edge]

Yeah. Honestly this seems like a very complete game as it is.

It sure as hell beats out Animal Crossing thus far.

[wispy lance]

I see it FAR from complete. Lore wise we have a long way. And they talk about a lot of zones, and even islands. To which I'm hoping we will travel at some point

[hexed cloak]

But just like any other live service game, it needs a flow (hehe) of new content to stay afloat.

[eager gale]

Just wish we had more furniture options, other 2 story buildings / staircases etc

Although I am really excited for the new map & what new features that'll bring!

[unique edge]

Story wise, sure. But if you couldn't give a single damn about the story, then it's not so bad. :P

[hexed cloak]

You just described me but I still want Elderwoods

[wispy lance]

If we get 1 map /year I think It's going to be fine

[marsh depot]

The problem is once you get to the "endgame", there's not really much else to do, and what most people here are lacking is a sense of reward from the game.
Cosmetics are paywalled with no chance for earnable cosmetics, once you build skills past level 10 you're only spending the guild coins on the same items.
I like the game too and I don't concentrate much on the story, it's just been sort of a burnt out.

[wispy lance]

Yeah it's not so bad. Decorating wise, since that's wat I like to do the most. I guess people that aren't happy with the current game just don't enjoy decorating.

[mystic forge]

if we got 1 map/1 Profession per year that would be ideal but that might be too much to ask for so, it might end up being we get a map 1 year then a Profession the next year

[hexed cloak]

I don't really enjoy decorating and I'm happy with the game.
I also have an unhealthy level in fishing

[wispy lance]

Ur the 1% exception 😂 (saying that because very few like the fishing mechanics in this game 😅)

[unique edge]

Maybe a break is in order then. Or you can focus on a different aspect of the game assuming you haven't done everything else yet. Then go back to decorating when you're more refreshed on it.

[marsh depot]

Yeah, that's what I've been doing. But you're kinda missing the point that the others are making in that a lot of old players are getting burned out.

[unique edge]

We get that. That's what we meant with the break.

[mystic forge]

i'm also happy with the game and Decorating is my least enjoyable part of the game, but i find the rest of the game very enjoyable, but yes the sense of Progression i get after reaching lvl 10 in all the professions really ruins my fun cause i'm not the type of player to pay for cosmetics, so there not being any kind of Free craftable Options for Cosmetics really hampers my enjoyment in some aspects v_v

[hexed cloak]

Funny thing, I told myself I'll take a break until the next update and I still played the whole evening tonight basically

[unique edge]

For most people, you're going to get burnt out on anything after enough time.

[dry swift]

Palia is a good game to play when you're playing another game.

[wispy lance]

The game in it's current state is a decorating game really. But they said elderwoods will reveal wat it's all about. Or something along those lines 😅. So we might have something different than just decorating.

[hexed cloak]

Pls no mandatory combat

[deep geyser]

I hope we get frogs. Like as a catchable creature.

[mystic forge]

Combat in no way should be mandatory,

IF combat is implemented it should be an optional thing you can do if you so choose too

[hexed cloak]

Yes. Just like the Tower

[wispy lance]

Don't think it's going to be that 🤔

[mystic forge]

now the implications of an Optional combat inclusion can be a slippery slope, because you do not want to Weigh certain things being only Obtained from combat

[unique edge]

Combat in general would be a mistake for this game.

[deep geyser]

Cozy and combat don't mix great

[unique edge]

It completely goes against everything calming about it, and there is currently no proper combat system in place. It'll be tacked on at best.

[mystic forge]

Stardew valley is a cozy game with Combat, no?

[wispy lance]

I think the only "combat" we will ever have will be Hunting

[hexed cloak]

They already have a perfect implementation of an optional challenge - The Tower. You only get Zeki coins from it, which are easily obtainable other ways

[unique edge]

Yeah but it sucks and it's nothing more than 'spam click'

[mystic forge]

True, it is very simplistic and straight forward....

[unique edge]

You couldn't even implement something like that into Palia because of it being 3D.

[hexed cloak]

Like pre-1.9 Minecraft combat? 😅

[deep geyser]

Yes like that

[unique edge]

Meaning you either need to make it so easy that it's braindead, or if you try to put in a combat system, then you're going to put off a lot f people that started this game for the cozy part.

[mystic forge]

Palia being a 3D game, combat would be more involved but again having it be optional and rewarding the usual things or currency of everything else would make it be totally irrelevant to players who specficially enjoy the decorating aspect of the game and the players who are looking for more of an engaging means to play the game would be able to enjoy the game for either side

[dry swift]

I still think the Elderwood is going to actually be a Senior Living Home map and it's going to be filled with events like finding Kenli's Grandma's dentures and tucking Eshi into bed.

[deep geyser]

Kenyatta forces her parents into a home is not on my Bingo card

[dry swift]

Reth: "Congratulations! You've unlocked the Prune Juice and Tapioca recipe."

[hexed cloak]

I play this game because you don't need to "git gud"

[deep geyser]

Unless it's Chapaa Chase? (Heavy joke)

[dry swift]

If there'd be combat introduced in Palia, I'd like to fight my urge to play something else.

[hexed cloak]

Chapaa chase boils down to this and luck

[deep geyser]

Exactly my joke

[wispy lance]

I will not tolerate such talk of Reth

[dry swift]

Sorry, "Prune juice and tapioca soup"

[deep geyser]

Oh no 😦

[mystic forge]

its kinda funny how any time theres mention of combat, ppl just assume its going to be forced on them and they will have to engage with it v_v

[dry swift]

I doubt there's going to be combat in Palia because there are already weapon skins for tools.

[dry swift]

But knowing S6, they would probably do something dumb at the last second and introduce combat.

[mystic forge]

lets be Real here, Combats already in the game, the current "Targets" just don't Fight back :/

[unique edge]

It's more a case of 'wanting to do everything.' and 'The devs will likely muck combat up because the devs very likely don't have any experience in it due to what this game is like, meaning it'll almost certainly be bad'

[lyric night]

they hopefully will fight back with debuffs in elderwoods, bcs like another 2 huntables that just simply run away is not it

[hexed cloak]

the current "Targets" just don't Fight back
I can't get more in depth about this because of server rules

[loud axle]

You do though.

I think you underestimate the number of people who have quit or been locked out of story progression solely because of Fishing.

[deep geyser]

Fishing?

[dry swift]

Palia is a game that is for people with disabilities but against people with disabilities in many ways at the same time. It definitely struggles from an identity crisis.

[wispy lance]

U mean the muujin tossing you in space is not fight back

[unique edge]

Why would get into a game like this and quit over fishing?

[deep geyser]

The Chapaas bowl me over too

[loud axle]

Several rare fish are needed for Bundles, and fishing is either inaccessible for a lot of people with disabilities or just mind numbingly boring for the rest of us who don't care enough to grind through it.

[dry swift]

A few people here have mentioned not liking fishing because they have physical disabilities that prevent them from doing it, yet it's in every bundle and locks out key progression.

[hexed cloak]

Is patience a skill

[dry swift]

From what I understand, people either LOVE fishing in games or HATE it.

[unique edge]

Yeah but that's a few. Certainly not something to be underestimated.

[wispy lance]

Bundles will not lock you out off progress

[dry swift]

Once Human sufferd from the same issue where people absolutely hated fishing when it first came out, then they "made it better" and suddenly a different group of people hated it.

[mystic forge]

bundles from what i understand just give you a Decoration don't they....?

[hexed cloak]

Depends on the game.
Minecraft fishing - boring
Animal Crossing fishing - cool
Palia fishing - cool

[loud axle]

It's not just about patience. It's a mini game that requires some skill and coordination, and it's the one skill you cannot have other people help you with.

[dry swift]

Runescape fishing - click spot and take a nap.

[marsh depot]

And then there's Stardew Valley Fishing.

[dry swift]

Runescape fishing is the closest thing we'll have to a realistic fishing system because you don't even have to pay attention while it happens xD

[deep geyser]

Stardew Valley fishing, my worst enemy

[wispy lance]

Wow fishing is the best, no minigame 😅😅

[marsh depot]

At least you can mod it to get rid of it altogether (unless you're in console) and the latest update made it a whole lot more bearable and rewarding.

[hexed cloak]

If you use buffs, it removes the skill factor.
I absolutely suck at reeling the fish. Buffs make it easy

[deep geyser]

I'll consider giving it another chance. Thanks for letting me know.

[loud axle]

Stardew fishing I could do no problem because there were meaningful benefits to leveling it and even the rarest fish in the game still have a decent chance to bite - you won't need to sit in the same spot for days on end like you do in Palia.

It's also much more focused due to locations, weather, and seasons, whereas Palia seems to have a much larger pool of potential fish you can catch at a time.

[unique edge]

That and assuming binding hotkeys isn't bannable, there are ways to fish without needing a mouse.

Autohotkey and assign one button to move the mouse left and one to move the mouse right.

[hexed cloak]

Meanwhile Animal Crossing - you have to play for an IRL year to complete the fish museum (assuming no time travel)

[dry swift]

Palia fish rarity = Get a unicorn fish/ancient fish when you're just bulk fishing for recipes. Get chests with dupe furniture when going for rare fish for bundle/completion.

[loud axle]

I just want to trade one of my dozen Rainbow Tipped Butterflies for each of the rare fish I needed. 🥴

[marsh depot]

No problem! I'd also just recommend going for the training fishing rod first and then upgrading to the best one as fast as you can, and use the cork bobber to help with the bar going up and down).

[hexed cloak]

You'll probably think I'm insane or something but I'll share it anyway

Fishing level 145 currently

[dry swift]

Somewhere in the world of Palia is a player cursing your name.

[deep geyser]

What is that big fish plush btw?

[nocturne sparrow]

You are insane but insanity is necessary around here. 💖

[loud axle]

Pro tip as well, you can finish the Crab Pot bundle using foraged items from the beach + a crab from the monsters in the mine. You get passive fishing exp for collecting from crab pots.

Or you can build a fish pond and get passive exp that way as well by throwing any fish in.

[marsh depot]

||From hotpot wheel iirc||

[hexed cloak]

Giant ancient fish. Obtained from the hotpot prize wheel (or the newly added trading, as an option)

[dry swift]

Okay, I haven't logged in in a few months. What's a fish pond?

[deep geyser]

Thank you. I will seek big feesh.

[hexed cloak]

There's 4 of em in there but only 1 is visible in the pic

[loud axle]

Fish Ponds were a new addition in Stardew 1.5 Robin can build for you. Basically you throw a fish in and it multiplies over time, and then you can collect Roe / other items occasionally from the pond.

[dry swift]

Oh, I thought we were talking about Palia still.

[loud axle]

No sorry 🤣

[dry swift]

I was like "Why has nobody mentioned this? This sounds like the biggest update in the history of the game!"

[hexed cloak]

Thank the devs this isn't in Palia, otherwise I'd build a unicorn fish empire

[dry swift]

Farming is truly the only way I'm allowed to feel like a self-made capitalist in Palia.

[hexed cloak]

I'm looking forward to grinding fishing even more in Elderwoods

[deep geyser]

I'm looking forward to exploring every inch of those woods.

[unique edge]

Wonderful~ We got a couple rare bugs and now our first rare forage.

[solemn flume]

ooh, a little Elderwood creature teaser

[loud axle]

Will they remember to put it in though? Because there's quite a few inconsistencies with the story and lore lol

[deep geyser]

Could these be || weird rock frogs ||? Finnie predicts Elderwoods caught in 4k. I mentioned earlier that I was hoping for frogs.

[naive summit]

just came across someone who chopped down a grove by himself even though ppl were on their way. Why are they like that??

[deep geyser]

Booooo Grove Thief boooooo

[young plank]

its happens sure people get upset but there really isnt any rules on groves so its more of a hope they dont chop down the grove and share kind of feeling

[naive summit]

I tried to talk to him but he ignored me haha

[loud axle]

That shouldn't be possible? You can cut the small trees through animation canceling but you shouldn't be able to cut the big ones down unless something's changed since I last played?

[young plank]

prob a solo player lol

[naive summit]

I dunno but if you chop long enough it's possible I think? not the biggest trees tho

[lyric night]

sapling, young and adult are possible to solo, only the mature ones require at least 2 players

[marsh depot]

Not really, for the bigger trees you can't, just for the really small and small ones. Maybe the medium ones but it takes some time still.

[young plank]

med is easy to chop down its just large you cannot

[marsh depot]

Yeah, I haven't done groves or gone out for flow tree in some time, so wasn't sure.

[loud axle]

Huh interesting I was always a solo player and I only remember cutting down the saplings myself

[deep geyser]

I could get maybe a med one but after that, I dunno how to animation cancel.

I like to share it anyway. Helps me meet new people in the game. I enjoy the sense of community this game fosters.

[loud axle]

I just wish there were actual incentives and reasons to party up like classes or specializations. 😦

I'll party if it's beneficial but partying in Palia always just slowed me down.

[marsh depot]

Yeah, sadly some players just can't/don't want to wait. It's just down to etiquette since it isn't written down you need to wait for others. Best course of action is to just block them so you likely won't be in the same server again.

[somber mist]

I like how No Mans sky fishing. It's like one click. I think more about bait you use and a little rng

[marsh depot]

Well now you can obtain loot if you're in a party as long as you're in close range. So if someone gets a plushie, everyone in the party does. Just one person needs to hit the objective and the rest will get the loot.

But yeah, I also wish parties (or communities) brought some more benefit and weren't so buggy sometimes.

[deep geyser]

I wish parties could be bigger. I got my friend group into this game and there's 6 of us.

[unique edge]

What's the max?

[nocturne sparrow]

Four people

Even if you're all in a community together, a party is still only 4 people.

[unique edge]

That sucks :(

[nocturne sparrow]

I would like to be able to remove a party member without having to unfriend them, unless I'm missing something. If we need to invite someone else and there are already 4 but someone isn't online, it would be nice to just remove them and invite the other person who is online.

[loud axle]

Definitely a start because yeah I hated needing to wait for everyone to get there / hit something.

[deep geyser]

It's glitched. I leave the party when it does this. It fixes when you load into another area afterwards most of the time. Other times, a restart may be needed.

[loud axle]

What I imagined when I heard a life sim MMO was like... Classes / specializations you could level up (but also swap between as needed.)

Like if you wanted to do a Mining party, you'd want to find a Prospector, Sapper, and Excavator. Prospector would help the party locate nodes and maybe increase movement speed towards / around them, Sapper would deal increased damage to nodes and be able to get critical hits to maybe one shot nodes sometimes, and Excavators would increase the ore yields / gem chances.

[deep geyser]

Okay but that would be a cool idea

[nocturne sparrow]

Yeah, that would be a cool idea

[deep geyser]

Kind of transitions some of the tools used to do some of these things into jobs. So it's a matter of which would be more effective compared to the amount of resources and time it would take to do either.

[marsh depot]

Specially since I can essentially get plushies for free this way and not have to use ammo But yeah, you only need to wait if someone lags behind for some reason but as long as everyone's close, you get the loot. There's also a double loot bonus every now and then so you get two items (which funnily enough, if you are partied while fishing, you can get 2 makeshift chests lol)

[opal fog]

Hello! I recently joined the game and was able to get the two story harvest house. By any means is it possible to stack other rooms on top another to gain a room on the second floor??

[nocturne sparrow]

No stacking. Link nodes are where windows are.

You can also check here where the decor gurus live for ideas https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1142204717489983528

[opal fog]

Aw alright, thanks!!

[grizzled sapphire]

Does anyone know when the maji market ends? I can’t remember if it’s tomorrow or next week

[nocturne sparrow]

!market

[opal cypress]

Maji Market will be running for a week, every four weeks. To preview what that looks like, these are the weeks Maji Market will be active.

• <t:1730793600:F> to <t:1731398340:F>
• <t:1733212800:F> to <t:1733817540:F>
• <t:1735632000:F> to <t:1736236740:F>
• <t:1738051200:F> to <t:1738655940:F>
• <t:1740470400:F> to <t:1741075140:F>
• <t:1742886000:F> to <t:1743490740:F>
• Continuing every 4 weeks

[heavy slate]

If you are the party leader you can remove them from the group through the party menu...it shouldn't unfriend them

[heavy slate]

The party bonus is great, friend of mine got it on a unicorn fish so they got 2 starred uni fish instead of one 🤣 I was so envious lol

[devout crypt]

One thing I would like to see implemented in this super fun game is to change the colors of the wood trim outside and inside your house 💕 The brown is so boring lol! And also change the color of the ceilings as well.

[hexed cloak]

I've had this happen twice

But I also fish more than 99% of Palians

[grizzled sapphire]

Okay idk if it’s just me but it says the Maji Market was going to end at 11:59. It’s only 11 for me, I was literally going to catch chapaas spend all my tickets and log off and it just sent me home in the middle of it

[runic eagle]

Seems daylight savings time wasn't taken into consideration

[ivory fjord]

Everyone got kicked out, we all thought it ended at 11:59 but because of daylight savings, the festival ended an hour early. There's talk that the next patch will fix this

[runic eagle]

Yeah I had 185 ahead of me.

[grizzled sapphire]

I’m so upset☹️

[loud axle]

Classic S6~

Zero forethought or planning

[marsh depot]

Reminds me of when they announced Lunar Market would last a week longer because they needed to sort out the update and wound up going back on it anyways

[hushed iron]

because they're jerks, and they think it's funny to purposely chop when they know people are making their way to the grove. I see it pretty regularly, unfortunately.

[signal kayak]

eh, while i don't condone things like that (i like the 3am chop), can't really get overly upset about it either as palia has always been a "play as you want" game. if they want to chop the trees early and play like that, that's them.

[loud axle]

They just need to make the trees like any other forageable or mining node where it sticks around for other people for a bit after it's been collected by someone.

People shouldn't be punished because they want to play efficiently.

[fiery perch]

Want to mention sometimes people might not be reading chat, since some people may have it hidden (like me). So they may of not realized people were on their way.

(Going to also note, of people are doing it to purposely to be jerks & boast about them being jerks, that's different. I dont think either side should be jerks about it to the other.)

Also, good morning

[thorn cypress]

I encountered a small group of players who I saw chop a grove and call it out when they were finished. They thought the trees were the same as mining nodes and would stay visible to others for a few minutes. They weren't behaving out of malice; they simply didn't know.

[final kernel]

I've cut without announcing before because I didn't think about it. My thought process was "I can get this alone" or I was with a group of friends and we just didn't think. I always feel so bad when I realize.

[scarlet hazel]

I don't know how to do cords and I don't bother making flares. I don't bother with groves half the time cause it's a hassle and boring to wait

[final kernel]

coords are L -> R so if you're in Row D, Column 2, it would be D2

[scarlet hazel]

What does that even mean

[signal kayak]

i always try to go to groves first just to see if what the epic bug/creature was (need another star rainbow), afterwards i hit the trees and go do something else (hunt the deers or wolves in the area, or participate in the bug lure that someone drops) so i'm not just wasting time

[signal kayak]

if you open your map, you'll see the grid, on it, if someone says d2 in chat, it means that it's in the d row, column 2

[scarlet hazel]

Uh huh...

[fiery perch]

Going to try to explain, too, in case it helps.
So, for example on this, the coordinates goes left to right. Each row is marked with a letter at the top, and each column is marked with a number.

You would essentially find the square that falls under the letter, and number. so for example, on here, Leafhopper hills would be in the square marked "C6".

[final kernel]

So the left side of the map is marked, I believe A through J on the X axis ( top side) and 1 through 9 on the Y axis (tleft hand side) so when you're looking for coordinates, you would match the Letter coordinate on the left and the number coordinate on the top so Row D, Column 2 would be written out as D2. Coordinates don't get any more specific in Palia so once you have the square you're looking for, it's a matter of finding what you're there for.

[fiery perch]

i like thinking about it as if I'm playing battleship sometimes

[final kernel]

See, I'm a historian so maps are my JAM

[loud axle]

I've always just been naturally good with directions, landmarks, and the like. So I always get frustrated when I try to explain a location to someone and they just don't get it. 🤣

[scarlet hazel]

I can't really get maps, directions and I'm very sure I have a math disability so I'm the worst person to try to get to understand how a map works

[thorn cypress]

I have to look for landmarks and hope those landmarks exist for a long time because if you give me directional instructions only, I will just blink silently at you 😆

[marsh depot]

I'm usually not good with directions either and I'd always end up getting lost in Bahari because I sucked at remembering the locations, so the coordinates are a LOT of help, I just ping the quadrant on the map and follow it.

[hexed cloak]

I keep joking that I know Kilima and Bahari better than my own neighborhood
900 hours of Palia will do that to you.

[signal kayak]

i will still use locations over coordinates for the grove, in hopes that the next person will call out the coordinates

[hexed cloak]

Actually probably closer to 1000 because I started like a month and a half before Steam

[signal kayak]

palia was my third highest played game at over 2000 hours

just looked, i've played palia for 3,140 hours since switch release last year

[nocturne sparrow]

I have no idea. I use the app so I have no idea how many hours I've played in the last year lol

[signal kayak]

that is still my third highest played game

[hexed cloak]

I switched to Steam as soon as the Steam version came out to keep track of my hours

[nocturne sparrow]

I tried it on Steam and it doesn't run as well so I just use the app. Honestly, I don't wanna know how many hours I play. Too many probably 🤣

[hexed cloak]

Even on my toaster the Steam version runs fine

[loud axle]

I wonder what the split between platforms is

[nocturne sparrow]

Oh it runs okay but not as fast as just running it through the app.

[loud axle]

Hard to get an actual player estimate because it's so spread out

I imagine with all the bugs on Switch barely anyone is playing there anymore, so the split's gotta mainly be between Steam and the Palia client.

[nocturne sparrow]

My daughter switches between her Switch and her PC. She likes PC much better, obviously.

[loud axle]

Didn't they release on Epic too?

Or maybe I'm imagining that one

[hexed cloak]

I don't own a Switch so I would love a mobile release

[hexed cloak]

Yes they did. But who even uses Epic

[loud axle]

🤷‍♂️

I know a lot of DBD cheaters do lol

[warm python]

I use Epic for Alan Wake 2 and that's it lmao cause no other choice

[west marlin]

Trying to type one time on my switch made me never want to play palia on it again lol

[hexed cargo]

real. is there not plugin keyboards you can get for them?

i think it'd be cool to have like meets where we sit in each others loungerooms and like just talk about something random

[west marlin]

Is there!? That would be cool

[hexed cargo]

I'm not familiar with what plugins there are in the switch but surelyy

Get a specific USB adapter for gaming consoles, such as the IOGEAR KeyMander 2. Connect the adapter to your Switch via the USB port. Plug your wired keyboard and mouse into the adapter.

@west marlin this is what google said

[wind nymph]

I started on switch with the console connected a keyboard and 15" monitor. Worked great for a while until I thought what am I doing? I have a gaming laptop! My daughter said I could use her steam account since she doesn't use it for much (mistake!) 2 months later she wanted to play something on steam. I set up my own steam account to discover you can not have Palia on 2 steam accounts. So I'm now using Epic but do miss steam!!

[lyric night]

u can simply reach out to player support and they will unlink the account for you

[wind nymph]

Oh cool!!! We read that we can't do that. I'm so glad to hear this!!!! Thank you!!

[round jackal]

In regards to trading why does it say " You dont have plushies to trade "

[delicate roost]

Because you either have them in your locked inventory or placed on your plot somewhere.

[round jackal]

that makes since

[delicate roost]

You can only trade them from your regular inventory or your backpack.

[hexed cargo]

Einers name is

Oner if you look at Spanish

[hexed cloak]

Isn't that German?

[round jackal]

Do Spice Sprouts spawn at a speffic time of day?

[runic eagle]

Nah, you can find those anytime of day or night around Mirror Fields, Leafhopper Hills and the farm area

[crisp nebula]

I got myself a wireless foldable keyboard and a mouse for my Steam Deck and it is literally a game changer. The mouse is so much better to aim at sernuuks and chapaas than thumbsticks. I dunno if it can be done for Switch tho.

[hexed cargo]

💀 you’d be right about that

Ajajsj
I’m learning both languages

[woeful garnet]

Before the last build, there was an issue with players falling through the landscape. That was due to the zone not fully loading and was supposedly fixed. Some players have complained about other things that I have also experienced. The fishing nodes appear and work properly up to the point of delivering a fish. The fishing reticule disappears or does not register at all. Game, mining nodes, and trees that act properly but don't leave a loot bag when cleared. Nodes that are cleared and do leave a loot bag but have a delayed respawn and sometimes do not respawn at all. At other times the nodes clear but there is a delay of several seconds before the loot bag appears and/or the loot bag is invisible, can't be picked up, or appears in a different place, including underground or in the air. Housing lots that don't load all assets or load assets from other lots.

I believe errors with active assets may be due to the same loading issues that were causing the fixed assets like the landscaping and house lots to behave improperly. They are sporadic for me and relogging or exiting and reentering the zone usually corrects them, but it's hard to provide any meaningful input in a bug report for an issue that can't be reliably duplicated.

[hot temple]

Most loot bag issues I've had are loot bags spawning in the ground or up in the air. Idk if I've ever had one not spawn period

[sour flame]

Before the last build, there was an issue with players falling through the landscape. That was due to the zone not fully loading and was supposedly fixed.

I can say it is not fixed.. i had to restart my game because of that like 5 times in the last 2 days 😄

[celest maple]

isn't there an unstuck button? or does that not work? I've never had to use it but I would have if I fell through the map

[fiery sphinx]

There is, but more often than not, it doesn't get you out of situations where you've fallen through the landscape. Usually you have to open your map and return home for that (which has a 30 minute cooldown). Restarting the game is to try to get a server where the map is fully rendered.

[drowsy trail]

anyone else think it's unfair that Badruu can have pumpkins on his farm but not players?

[glad nacelle]

Yes it is unfair

[drowsy trail]

I vote they allow us to have pumpkins and pumpkin pie!!!

[glad nacelle]

Count me in for the vote. I also want banana trees cause b a n a n a b r e a d

[drowsy trail]

Devs need to get in this chat rn lol

[signal kayak]

i would bet good money that eventually they will put pumpkins as a growable crop as when you look at recipes that require "any vegetable" you can clearly see a pumpkin in it along with another green vegetable that we don't have yet

would be a great deceit if they weren't included

[crystal heath]

Pumpkins are cool, but I'd really like strawberries...

[glad nacelle]

MOAR fruits plz

[signal kayak]

strawberries and grapes would be neat to have also pears

[glad nacelle]

Cherries too and PEACHES (I'm a peach fiend)

I imagine more crops are in our future.

[hollow crescent]

all the fruits

[drowsy trail]

can you get more than 9 plots of soil? like this is to small a farm!!

[glad nacelle]

We can only hope one day, but sadly not yet.

[drowsy trail]

thats so lame

[placid haven]

My guess is no, because this last update would have been the perfect time for pumpkins to be introduced, and they failed that one.

[signal kayak]

they may be waiting to add more things until full release, remember, we "accidentally" got the lettuce seeds earlier this year that are still not implemented in the game

[placid haven]

True, but I'm extra salty today with S6 because I logged in last night to see bugs with tool switching still not fixed (aside from the sleeeeeew of other things still not fixed) and Blizz just announced today that player housing will be coming to WoW with the next xpac, Midnight (probably out in 18 months or so) and that will mean I'll never log into Palia again, because at least Blizz's stuff works!

[signal kayak]

yeah, i've only logged in in the past two months just to check what's new in the updates and the log in rewards, been playing minecraft all the other times

[placid haven]

Yeah, I only grab rewards now as there is literally nothing else for me to do. Nothing new with the maji market, rng is broken for me for plushies, and no new seasonal stuff, so nope. Not logging in. I've got plots half decorated, but I'm lost my love for it so yeah, probably not logging in again if/until they make an actual content update,

[weak wigeon]

I Was here playing some game, and reth came to my mind and i thought "Darn i NEED more romance levels on Palia, we haven't gotten more since the game was released!!" 😭

[warm python]

wtf is going on in general

[weak wigeon]

fish

[warm python]

I really hope no one actually needs to use that channel for any actual conversation or questions cause oof

[fiery perch]

Not wanting to get too much with off topic with WoW, and this is all I'm going to say about it, but im honestly so pumped. I know Midnight probably wont be until potentially 2026, but... even if it's something basic with set places for items... it's something I'm still looking forward to as a collector in 90% of games.

[fiery perch]

I honestly still find it strange in some regard that there hasn't been progress in regards to the lettuce seeds and stuff that we got on accident

[signal kayak]

what are you talking about? general is being general /jk

[warm python]

I mean you ain't wrong--

[signal kayak]

every time i look into that channel it always seems to be some form of weird

[drowsy trail]

what are these seeds you speak of?!

[marble yoke]

super late to this party but it kind of looks like a stylized kabocha squash or even an acorn or harlequin, the bottom looks harlequin-esque

[loud axle]

For a login incentive several months back they meant to give out Cabbage Seeds, but instead mailed people Lettuce Seeds that... don't exist or have a working model in the game.

[drowsy trail]

thats ridiculous think someone would have tested and double checked before hitting send?

[fiery perch]

I think youre spot on with that

[marsh depot]

Given how many times people have gotten the wrong twitch drop rewards, it's not surprising tbh

[marble yoke]

yay squash gardening comes in clutch in a video game for the first (& last) time ever

[worn snow]

that's... rly funny actually

[loud axle]

Well, that's typical S6 for ya lol

[drowsy trail]

trying to collect all star bugs and fish and make all the star quality foods. this is not easy

[warm python]

Ain't the first time and it won't be the last

[west marlin]

I still have a copy of this gift stuck in my mailbox that both cant be redeemed and never goes away 😂

[hexed cloak]

I still keep the lettuce in my lockbox hoping it will be useful

[round harness]

I wish s6 would make it possible for the first person in the hotpot table to have power to kick people when needed... Its just so rude when 4 of us is playing and suddenly someone push himself to someone's sit :/

[dull crow]

Thats cause the game has a lot of visuel bugs where ppl just disapear and you cant see them anymore. So they think only 3 are playing on this table. This happends everywhere

[placid haven]

Yup and my dumb butt went and planted them immediately because I thought 'NEW STUFF' so now I have a bunch of lettuce in my inventory that I can't use for anything.

[placid haven]

It's S6, their motto is 'test nothing, fix nothing'

[placid haven]

Yeah, I legit screamed at my computer in joy because I've been asking for that for YEARS. I'm praying they don't nerf it into oblivion like they did garrisons (although I am one of the few who liked garrisons, tbh, but they should have been so much more than they were)

Part of the reason I even started playing Palia was the lure of former Blizz devs and the housing.....I was thinking it would be the housing WoW never had. And now Palia is failing and we're finally going to get housing in WoW. lol

[stone smelt]

Anyone having issues logging into palia, and issues with serious game lag? I have been struggling all day, several attempts b4 I can log in and when I do the game laggs so badly I can't do anything.

The lag is so bad I have to log out and log back in. In hopes that helps but back to struggling to log in. Managed to get in just now after struggling all day, and played for less than 5 mins b4 the entire game froze. Now can't get back in. I've tried restarting my laptop. Doesn't help

[modern rock]

#💻│tech-help

[scarlet hazel]

Ngl unless elder woods is a hit I may move on entirely from palia

[ivory fjord]

Can I use someone's referral code after my account is made? I tried searching this on google but got no hits

[delicate roost]

No, you have to use the referral code link to actually create your account on the Palia site.

[ivory fjord]

I appreciate you taking the time to confirm that for me. Thank you!

[quartz sedge]

Do people still call out groves before chopping, or am I just unlucky with servers

[past ingot]

GOOOOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE!

I hope you all are having an amazing day. If it isn't amazing. I hope it gets better, and here's a huggle for your struggles.

Huggles

[signal kayak]

unlucky, i use to get a lot of grove calls, but haven't played in 2 months

[sand basin]

Groves just aren't as popular as they used to be imo. All the cool stuff happens at night too: Plushie bugs lures, Maji Market, Hotpot

Just a couple groves should keep you stocked with flow wood for a long time too, unless you have a special need for furniture or something

[nova ember]

you would think. They have a pretty bad track record

[scarlet hazel]

They never had a good one to begin with

[drowsy trail]

makes me wanna finish schooling for game dev cuz thats ridiculous seriously dude

if i wanna stream palia should i make a new player? or just go off the one i have?

[wind sky]

I've seen lots of people still texting about flow trees and palium locations, and flaring them as well 🤔 Sometimes, people flag rare flowers as well.

[mystic forge]

i'm concerned that it feels like the Development cycle of Palia is too slow and the Community will not be able to sustain its self on the current pacing, now i'm not saying that the devs need to hurry up but, i think its been proven from previous games and what not that not enough content in a timely manner leads to a declining play base and eventually the game turns into a ghost town.

[quartz sedge]

The last server I was in was great, I must have just been super unlucky haha

[wind sky]

Maybe less people are playing? Dunno. I've always had someone around to help with flow trees.. Sometimes needed to wait for a bit, like 3 min.

[mystic forge]

yea theres typically atleast a handful of players in Every server

i think a lot of players also have to study for Exams and what not don't they?

[wind sky]

Sounds quite sad, at the beginning it seems like the game is full of content, so those who are playing for quite long time struggling with getting new quests?

[mystic forge]

well i would assume its not getting new quests would be the issue rather its just a lack of things to do, after a certain point a player will pretty much have "Done it All" know what i mean?

and i think theres becoming more and more players who are at that point of "i've done everything there is to do"

and those players are now just waiting for the next Major Patch to come out

now don't get me wrong i do like the game, its very enjoyable. I Just wish i had more Reason to play, because currently any time i see theres been an update its a handful of new Furniture/cosmetics v_v

[polar elbow]

the problem is that they're adding the exact same filler with every patch
more login incentivespotato pods, more furniture that you can only obtain through grinding RNG, and a giant pile of stuff for the cash shop

[wind sky]

Yeah, or it gets repetitive.. 😦
I stopped playing Genshin, it felt like it's all the same over and over again, even if they added very great looking locations.

[mystic forge]

exactly and that will Very quickly burn out the player base XD

players want something to do, something to Explore, having to Whip out the Credit card for every minor update cause theres a new Outfit to grab doesn't do it for a lot of players :<

[wind sky]

Trying to squeeze everything they can never worked out well 😞

[mystic forge]

i would honestly tell them to stop releaseing Cash shop items and focus entirely on Actual Game content, New areas, New professions, New NPCs

[polar elbow]

My main issue is that as a goal-driven player who enjoys cosmetics, there aren't any cosmetic goals for me to pursue in the game
there is nothing, nothing that I can work towards and earn that I can actually show off on my character

[mystic forge]

i would even say they should put out a Poll on what players want, New Area, New Profession, New NPCs Etc

New 20$ Cosmetics isn't the way to go :/

[polar elbow]

having a cash shop that sells cosmetics is fine, what isn't fine is that they're doing it in a way that basically starves the game of earnable rewards/goals outside of "decorate your house"

[mystic forge]

that was probally my biggest disapointment about the cosmetics in the game is that i literally cannot make my own cosmetics, i have to buy them with Real money

the default ones are fine, As a Default. but anything that looks even relatively Nice or Fancy is Pay for only

i think S6 Seriously needs to consider what the best plan moving forward would be.

now if they Decide to release the Elderwood next Week, Great, New content to Explore and Enjoy for a few weeks/Months.

[polar elbow]

what really drove me crazy, personally, is not even having earnable skill themed outfits
looking like your "job" should not be paywalled in any game

I can understand the fairy or witch outfits being premium, as an example, but the herbalist outfit should have been something you earn through foraging or farming

[mystic forge]

yea like Reach lvl 20 Foraging and you get a neat little outfit.

doesn't have to be anything Fancy, just to satisfy that Sense of Achievement.

[polar elbow]

if this were a game with combat (just as an example), and you could play as a knight, mage, or a rogue, palia would put all of those 'jobs' in the same set of T-shirt and shorts and then tell them that if they want to look like a knight, mage, or rogue, they have to pay up

[loud axle]

They're hemorrhaging players... Down like 33% average players over the last four months on Steam.

They need to hurry up with Elderwoods.

[signal kayak]

not for at least another 2-3 months for elderwoods, and that's assuming it's the january update,

but agreed, they really do need to make sure elderwoods is extremely good

[loud axle]

Wondering how many people will even come back for it.

[signal kayak]

i think it will depend on how "big" the update is, i'm sure that people will come back and play the elderwoods for a bit, but if the same problems that exist now exists then, i don't see this game surviving.

which is sad, i do love palia, but once you get caught up with everything to do, it loses a lot of interest for people

but three maps isn't much for an online game, or even a regular game. stardew valley has multiple different farms that you can try out, each with their own pros and cons, animal crossing new horizons has tons of different map layouts for starting your game and then you have a massive group of npcs, holiday events and such. honestly could go on with sims and other indie games of the same genre as palia

[scarlet hazel]

i hope this game gets picked up by someone that cares for it. either another studio buys it out and takes control entirely or if its a private server situation

[lyric night]

maybe 50%? could be more I guess
but their main focus is probably to get new players with elderwoods

especially if the plans for full release and console release for next year, which EG7 shared in their last 2 financial reports, don't change until then (at least elderwoods would be the perfect opportunity to transition into 1.0, or they randomly get another map/major update out by the end of 2025 and release then but that’s extremely unrealistic I guess)

[slow dragon]

Anyone else's PC freeze when opening the friends panel sometimes or is it just me 👁️👄👁️ (probably just my PC dying )

[olive carbon]

I play on GeForce Now and this still happens to me, and on switch it often simply crashes my game entirely to do so, so I think it's more common than just a PC issue! You can try asking in #💻│tech-help though if you think your pc itself might be struggling with it!

[slow dragon]

I see, I see, thank youu

[loud axle]

It's probably because the game is trying to load all your friends' models at the same time every time you open it.

[modest merlin]

I'm so confused by this. Who makes a rope like this?

[thorn cypress]

Umm, probably not people constructing buildings. But definitely, people who make dog toys

[snow remnant]

wondering if we still have devs, at this point or it is one single person left 😦 no updates , no bug fixes...

i have been making a house with blocks only so it is making me want to play MC again...darn it i really do not want to leave this game but they are getting behind...

[rare pine]

That sounds fun but the building blocks are like, the most unstable item in this game. Something's always going wrong with them.

[snow remnant]

right, that is let down

[rare pine]

Yeah. The bedroom in my house is partially elevated with blocks and I'm anticipating an update where it all implodes

[drowsy trail]

I still can’t hang up my muujin , sernuk and chapaa heads on the wall thoooo.

[snow remnant]

mine is anchored to the plot but lays by the lake, so def no crafters in there, i have a "real" house for that but i have not cared about that one in a while

[placid haven]

This. Every other game has SOMETHING you can earn and work toward, and the cash shop is secondary. I get (although disagree with) why they are pushing it. But without anything to keep players who can't afford a $30 outfit or pet (or higher) every week, they're rapidly killing off their player base.

[west wedge]

So awhile ago someone told me that on home tours, you can contribute to someone's construction projects. I thought that was too fun. I did it a lot. but apparently it isn't working that way anymore. I toured a home three days ago and completed their house upgrade needs. Today they logged in and it isn't there. Just posting so people know not to waste their time

[modest merlin]

No patch announcement today has me worried they're going to release a patch the Monday or Tuesday before Thanksgiving 😬

[mystic forge]

thanks ❤️

[tranquil nest]

Thanks for the pings y'all

[cinder comet]

Oh I’m late

[fiery sphinx]

Can't be worse than releasing right before they took a month long break last year...

[snow remnant]

every release palia does, it is like $50 to my steam wallet, i dont exagerate when i say i invest more than time in this game lol

[modest merlin]

oh, I remember that.
Wasn't that also on a patch with a new quest for one of the temples, and the quest was bugged so no one could get that item from the Pavel mines?

[fiery sphinx]

It was when they released the temple of the gales... it was an absolute nightmare.

[modest merlin]

more like Temple of Nightmares

[fiery sphinx]

Yes. That was when so many people accidentally went to the final island early and completely borked the quest so they were locked out of it for ages

[modest merlin]

They "fixed" it and I still see people posting complaints about it.

[snow remnant]

i am so used to their releases, i got another game last night and i was "what you mean the game is not having updates cause they finished their work already"

[fiery sphinx]

I want to love that temple because there's so much more to do there than in the others... but it's just so bad.

[modest merlin]

I had issues with the climbing at the start, like everyone else, but aside from that I did like the temple.

I get the feeling most hated it because it was actually relatively challenging, but to me that's what I enjoyed about it.

[fiery sphinx]

Yes! It was frustrating at times, but I liked that it was more of a challenge. It actually took me a little while to get through it all unlike the others which I've completed within an hour or so of them being released.

[modest merlin]

I think it took me a few days to get through it all, at least a few different return visit. I didn't mind that at all.

I guess some people just want different things, and that's okay. You can't please everyone.

[fiery sphinx]

Yeah, I feel like so many people are conflating "cozy" with "not challenging" and a thing can be cozy and still require some effort. I don't want to blow through all new content in a few minutes.

[rare pine]

Maybe they'll push the patch later because of winter break. Though tbh, when they released on switch then immediately went on winter break that was a flaming disaster

[modest merlin]

Yes, I agree, and that mentality irks be a bit.

What's more cozy than cuddling up in a big comfy chair by a large window on a rain day while doing a crossword puzzle?

Now imagine you did that crossword in < 10 minutes because the answers were way too obvious.

[snow remnant]

bad project management move

[fiery sphinx]

Exactly the way I feel!

[modest merlin]

Pushing this patch means they have to push next patch, and look at the possible dates for next month.

Do you choose the day before Christmas Eve, or the day before New Year's Eve?

[rare pine]

At this rate, I don't think we're going to get two patches before year's end. I think the next patch is gonna be the last and then winter break. That's just my prediction though

[fiery sphinx]

Oof yeah. They dropped .175 on the 8th last year and then Switch release on the 14th and it was still a nightmare. Later in the month is going to be... Interesting. I wonder if they'll push this one and it will be the last update for the year.

[queen kettle]

Last patch of the year 31st

Couldn’t be more perfect

[severe spade]

guys,stupid question but can you romance reth and also tish his sister 🥸

[modest merlin]

https://palia.com/news/dev-update-january-2024

Going into 2024, we’re going to adjust our cadence to be closer to one major update a month

I always wonder if this commitment would change at the end of 2024.

[polar elbow]

my own personal interpretation of cozy is "low stress" tbh.
a game can be super challenging to me and still be "cozy" as long as it's not punishing.

but a lot of game developers seem to interpret cozy as "super simple and easy" and then fall into the trap of thinking that the only way to make things difficult is by making them either A) extremely time consuming and tedious or B) use horrible RNG rates to create "fake" difficulty

[modest merlin]

Did you find the Temple of Gales stressful or punishing?

I like your take, btw.

[fiery sphinx]

You can. I've romanced literally everyone in this game for the content.

[fallow saffron]

You can!

[fiery sphinx]

I do agree with this. Especially the part about horrible RNG rates.

[scarlet hazel]

the temple of gales is the worst temple really. nauseating and head spinning effects, no good check points for when you fall an very confusing to navigate...

[runic eagle]

Everytime I see this quest mentioned I still cringe

And we had tons of issues when it first dropped. Absolute nightmare.

[polar elbow]

I personally did not, but I know a lot of people who find it inaccessible to them for a number of reasons. And I still would like to see something done about that, because I also tend to equate "cozy" with some degree of accessibility.
It's kind of tricky to elaborate on, my attention is all over the place right now but the short of it is, palia lacks options. if you can't complete the temple of gales as-is, there are no alternate paths or ways to get past it. You can't even ask for help.
This would be less of an issue if it were optional "challenge" content, but it's something that's effectively the main story. It needs to be made more accessible.

[fiery sphinx]

Accessibility is a huge issue with this game, and I feel like they've not made the efforts that they should have at this point, as far as that goes. They have so much feedback from #♿│accessibility-discussions and have acted on almost none of it.

[loud axle]

We got some lip service back in March that they were working on accessibility features and haven't heard a peep since.

A couple months ago there was a line in the patch notes about a slider for outfit visual effects so you could actually turn them off, but it didn't work so they just... Deleted it from the patch notes and never mentioned it again.

I really hoped with the Daybreak acquisition we'd see some structural shakeups but it really doesn't feel like anything's changed.

[hollow crescent]

to me it honestly feels like yes stuff is breaking and etc, with a new area being unlocked maybe most of the stuff ppl want would be implemented, i know things take a while to be added, and as we’re in beta now is their chance to be adding these things since they didn’t do that in alpha, i know their smaller/whatever their situation is now, but if i compare it to the ashes of creation who just launched their alpha stuff, they have accessibility stuff and plan to add more (tho their focusing more on stability and all that too)

[sand basin]

They came in the form of layoffs and a focus on monetization, as is always the case with these acquisitions

[graceful ingot]

So, with World of Warcraft adopting the whole concept of Player Housing, and with some of Palia's creators being from Blizzard, and with Palia sort of pausing on the MMO progress, maybe World of Warcraft is going to be the next 'Palia' , minus relationships with NPC's? 😅

[scarlet hazel]

WoW has been running since they hit the market really

it'll be stuck in their next xpact but im fine with it as long as we actually do get housing and its a decent money sink too

[heady arch]

I hope it's not too much of a money sink. A lot of things in the game (consumables, enchants...) has been getting so much more expensive, i cannot afford a million gold living room setup hahaha

[scarlet hazel]

same... but if such a setup exist and its pretty enough you bet ill slowly work my way up to it

[heady arch]

I personally hope we'll get a new profession coming with it. And really fancy furniture dropping from dungeon/raid bosses, potentially even trophies for pvp achievements.
As long as they do a good job, this is going to make my RP life so so much better! 😄

Alternatively, furniture from existing professions. Tailoring for anything fluffy and soft, alchemy for bottles/clutter, herbalism for potted plants...
There's so much they could do haha

[hollow ingot]

Temple of roots was challenging too.

[hollow ingot]

They had some type of housing years ago. A personal fortress type.

[scarlet hazel]

the garrisons are a lot more of a war kind of thing instead of personal housing. it was made for war, not somewhere you can feel safe in after many long journeys

[arctic cradle]

Yo I’m ngl it would’ve been peak if you get a little cutscene with the character/s you romance once you finish their romance :o (Idk if they DO do that. It’s just with the one person who’s route I finished that’s not the case)

[modern rock]

there's nothing like that in the game atm but i think it's possible in the future since the lvl 5 friendship quests are all capped off with a cutscene. maybe they plan to add lvl 5 romances once they are done with lvl 5 friendships. just don't expect anything any time soon with how slow story updates are

[arctic cradle]

[untold sluice]

They'll definitely do that again

[amber briar]

I have some questions about my stations being glitched

First my crafting station and camp fire got stuck out of alphabetical order

Now I can’t use any kitchen stations at all

Is this happening to other switch users or anyone else

[modern rock]

the alphabetical sorting is just buggy, if closing and reopening the game doesn't fix it then i don't think there's anything you can do but report it as a bug

for the cooking stations, what exactly happens when you try to interact with them? it could be the A button being buggy which is a common issue on switch atm. or it could be because you've got completed/ruined food on one of the stations, which locks up all the others from being used. you'd need to find and remove the food in that case.

[amber briar]

Oh wow…. I have an oven as an underground porter…😂🤣😂🤣
Someone probably used it and accidentally cooked something😂🤣😂….. Thank you🤭🤭 I feel silly. But my A button glitch is getting worse… but I’ll just have to wait for that fix

Yup… 💯 correct on the food😂🤣thanks again🤙🏽

[reef egret]

anyone wanna trade giant chapaa plush?

with another giant plush?

[hexed cloak]

#🤝│trading-archived

[reef egret]

thank you! :)

[woeful garnet]

I romanced everyone, mainly for the content, but it goes more smoothly if you time them to avoid conflicts arising from previous NPC relationships.

For example; Finish Reth or Tish [siblings], and then do the other.
Finish Jel or Tish, [best friends], and then do the other.
Finish Tamala or Hodari [enemies], and then do the other.

An exception to this would be Kenyata and Naio [lovers]. With these two, it depends on how you respond to them. If you respond in one manner, it will cause them to break up. If you respond in another manner, you will find yourself in a love triangle, and everyone is okay with that.

It's unnecessary to break up with one before starting another, but if you wear a pin, you may want to be careful with whom you speak. Once you put it on, you can only remove one pin from each pin slot, once per RL week. If you reapply a pin to a pin slot, you will not be able to remove it for the remainder of the week.

[wispy lance]

Oh! I didn't knew about the pin thing. Good knowledge 👍

[neat shadow]

I didn't either, that was great info.

[woeful garnet]

I learned that one the hard way. 🤦

[wispy lance]

I think I replaced a pin once, and then never again, so I didn't now about that cooldown.

[hexed cloak]

I don't have a single romance point with anyone

[woeful garnet]

I thought I would be clever and romance everyone at the same time by just swapping pins on and off.
Wrong! 🤪
I guess the devs spotted that potential exploit before I could exploit it. 🤔

[jaunty crest]

got tamala’s pin today. how bad is this lady cause even zeki is concerned that i’m involved with her 🫠

[hollow crescent]

we’ll find out

[thick wagon]

while monthly updates sound great...thats a real short deadline for BIG updates... smaller but interesting updates (like NPC interacting or just..make stuff feel more alive ?) would be great while they work towards big big update im currnetly taking a break and while we just got a update im still waiting for the next zone. currently waiting for mysimes to release in 3 days :3 super exited!. so taking a palia break atm and hope i return to lots of fun stuff

[hollow crescent]

that’s ok! breaks are important even if it’s to play other games (i do that a lot )

[placid haven]

Palia is 90% bad project management moves

[signal kayak]

yeah, like why the heck are trees that are natural and not in the build area counting towards the decor limit? i just went through and picked up everything and i mean everything from all of my plots and it still says that i have 31/3000 items on my plot

[loud axle]

That seems like a relatively new bug. When would that even have been introduced, there hasn't been a patch in awhile lol

[untold sluice]

Dont worry have a Plushie

[loud axle]

More like have some unimplemented crop seeds that don't do anything~

[signal kayak]

it's probably been in the game for a long time (and yeah i cut a small tree down and it dropped from 31 to 30) we probably never found out about it because we weren't able to see how many decorations were on our plots until recently

[fiery perch]

It's actually been in the game for a while.

[lyric night]

the bug probably always existed
was first discovered earlier this year

[loud axle]

Yikes! I knew about regular trees counting but not those that aren't even in the buildable area.

[fiery perch]

Also hi Roan! Hope youre well

[loud axle]

Hiya! Doing well, almost done with work! How are you?

[fiery perch]

I'm doing okay! Been keeping busy with building on different games currently haha

[fallow saffron]

They are WHAT

[signal kayak]

yes, some of the trees that are outside of the build area, in other words then naturally spawning trees that surround the build area count towards decor limit, like i said, i cut a small tree down and it went down from 31 to 30

[tranquil niche]

hi i have a question how can i find/see my potato pod bingo card?? i got it from zeki but i dont understand what i can do with it

[lyric night]

u got no bingo card, the bingo card thing was just promotional stuff

what u got was very likely just the trading pass assuming u completed the trading quest just now

[tranquil niche]

oh....ok thank you xD

[midnight steeple]

Been playing Palia for nearly 1 year. The servers seem quieter lately or am I just not in right places at right time? I've completed maji market quests and the fact Strange Things Afoot quest is awaiting an update after so long is weird. Sorry to be negative, just frustrated with lack of progression I log on each day for crops and rummage piles, that's it 😞

[tough meadow]

I'm gunna be so sad when I reach that point I'm thinking of quitting the game until it's no longer beta tbh

[sand basin]

Unfortunately the whole end-game is just decorating (a limited number of plots) right now

[lyric night]

we will very likely get a main story update extremely soon, probably with the next patch (they already changed some locations this patch in preparation for it)
the delay in main story stuff was (unfortunately) to be expected after the mass layoffs so hopefully they will get back on track soon

for me personally the ingame server chat was always quiet, especially on the homeplot and kilima
in bahari I keep seeing ppl chatting from time to time

[merry chasm]

anyone have issue getting in today? im just sitting in loading for 10 min not going any where

[hollow crescent]

it's probably connection issues, you can try reloadin the game maybe but yea you'd have to wait, some ppl reinstall it too

[wind sky]

It's time for a really important discussion: how to steal Tau from Hassian? 😆

I mean, do we collectively need to write to the developers? (Yeah, I'm that serious 🤣)

[midnight steeple]

Thank you appreciate your reply

[loud axle]

Playercount has dropped about 33% in the last couple of months, even the diehards are starting to run out of content and reason to log on. They've said the new zone is coming "early 2025" but we haven't heard more on that in several months now, so it's anyone's guess if we'll get any significant update before then or not.

[trim shore]

I was a steady player for a while, but fell off around the time they made the daybreak announcement. I’ve logged on a couple times to do a few games of hotpot but when I saw that the maji market was basically the same as the year before, I hadn’t picked it up since, which is a shame because I was pretty active for a while.

I’m waiting for their focus to shift off of plushies and random collectibles. I’m definitely ready for more story driven content as is many other players!

[cold basin]

How do I find a "community" to join?

[umbral lynx]

#1267631845013721158

[tough meadow]

a community sounds like fun

[loud axle]

If only they had actual purposes and activities to do :x

[wispy lance]

There is no game content for communitys atm, but the people in them make activities and they do make it fun 😊

[tough meadow]

I would hope that would be the case

[wispy lance]

Well in their description it does sound like they are having fun 😂

[runic eagle]

Yeah we do things like plush hunts, weekly's, focus food cooking, maji market events, lure parties etc.
And in the beginning we even worked on achievements with one another

[wispy hazel]

there will be winter landscape ?

[tough meadow]

ig so?

[runic eagle]

Last year we had snow drifts throughout Kilima. Not sure what they will do for this Winterfest

[scarlet bone]

when can i earn these coins?

[thin elbow]

get level 10 in any of the life skills, u will then be able to do weekly tasks for each skill. completing those will earn those coins

[scarlet bone]

oki sankyu

[tough meadow]

ohhh I didn't know that

[marble meteor]

does anyone know if this will be fixed/changed?

[wispy lance]

Yes, the bug is known, and they are working on it.
There are a few items that count on all plots, like crafters, chests, trees etc...
Seeing your number you just probably have a lot of trees on one of your other plots.

[sweet nacelle]

It could be that lots of Switch players stopped playing, since there are so many bugs in the game at the moment. I wish I cloud play but all the issues with A buttons not working and crashing multiple times a game, makes it not fun anymore 😭

[signal kayak]

also to add, if you have any of the natural trees (the ones that were there when you started the game, even the ones outside the build area) those also apparently count. i cleared out everything from all of my plots and at the end i still had 31 items on my plot

[nocturne sparrow]

Oooo teasers of things to come? 🙀 https://prnt.sc/Wt3DjpNWLYjx

[wispy lance]

Yeah, it's been there for a month allready

[lyric night]

yup, or patched in on accident, but was probably on purpose, they did that for the last story update as well, where they patched map changes one patch in advance
so we should see the long awaited story update next patch (99.9%)

[wispy lance]

And here's Tiny coming to the rescue with more explanation 😅

[nocturne sparrow]

Y'all are amazing!

[wispy lance]

That 1% is keeping me on edge though 😂😂😂

[lyric night]

no need to worry
S6 is rly predictable

[nocturne sparrow]

Guess I need to run thru the temples more often.

[wispy lance]

I'm always: BUT wat IF!!!?

[wispy lance]

Yeah, I said Ill go see the new stuff as well but always forget 😂

[lucid hornet]

If they didn’t f-up anything it’s basically guaranteed.
But your question stays valid because of that

[marble meteor]

thank you.. i really need that to happen- some of my plots are way over 3000 items now because of my new forest :')

[wispy lance]

Well I've been waiting for . months and it still didn't happen 😅. Just because they are working on it doesn't mean it will be soon.

I quit waiting and removed my forest and some trees in other areas this month 😭

[median panther]

We need to be able to have seperate keybinds for walk and placement mode. i just want to walk around my lot with a grid on everything.

[tropic fiber]

I just want a mount, something I can ride all over kilima and bahari. A sernuk could be a good start 🏇

[signal kayak]

also, why do rooms count towards the decor limit?

[mystic forge]

nah i want a Muujin Mount v_v

but i feel that would require the introduction of a Husbandry Profession

[signal kayak]

i would want to be able to tame a proudhorn or get the order sernuk as a mount

[hollow crescent]

yes make us do a fancy quest for cool mounts, maybe spend reknown on even cooler ones, have a special one for the game shop if they want but i want mounts too

[median panther]

also, being abke to hit esc to close menus would be nice

[hollow crescent]

does it not do that i never noticed

[median panther]

sometimes it does not

[hollow crescent]

probably buggy then lol

[median panther]

guess its more of a bug

yeah, like the fast travel boards do it a lot

[umbral lynx]

Escape to close a menu... Madness

[lyric night]

only modbench menu and fasttravel (iirc) don't close with esc so easy to miss

there was a bug sometime this year with esc not closing any menu
was fixed except for modbench and fasttravel
chat not closing with esc as well, but can simply be closed with enter, so not rly an issue

[hollow crescent]

yea is why i never noticed

[median panther]

imo esc should close all menus. just muscle memory that way. i think a qol improve,ent would be if you are in local or party chat and change maps it should stay in that chat instead of switching back to server

[frigid bough]

hihi. is it possible to place a building at a 45 degree angle instead of the 90 degree steps that you get hitting Q or E?

[umbral lynx]

No sadly not, at best you can use the builder items and build one but they can no lt be wallpapered or floored

[frigid bough]

thanks!

[hexed pilot]

what does everyone do with the treasure chests? ive kept a hold of mine but now i have so many that idk where to put them as my house is still tinyyy

[hollow crescent]

i have mine like a back fenced area for my bbq i’m too lazy to change it atm but i seen some cool things ppl do!

https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1189929853168926731 here’s an example

[hexed pilot]

this is my plot rn, i want to expand my house but people told me if i try to just grind ill complete everything too fast and end up bored so just take my time but i just dont know the best way to try and expand since i need a lotta gold which means grinding hunting etc

[hexed pilot]

ooh thank you

[grave wharf]

I would say just take your time with it, in the sense you don’t want to make it a chore to do things that don’t necessarily appeal to you to try and get to an end goal. Yes, you’ll need to grind some things out to make cash but definitely find what you like and eventually you’ll have the money to do loads of decorating.
Gardening, once you’re high enough, is a great way to make money while finding stuff to do inbetween for a little bit extra once you’ve saved a small stack of whatever you find.

[heady arch]

I think it's completely personal what the best way to approach it is. For some, taking it slow and pace themselves is the best way.
I do not work like that at all, for example. I need to grind, or i see no point in playing at all. I need to do something, and i need to do it as fast as possible because only progress gives me positive feelings in games 😂
I found fishing the best early starter for money. I quite enjoyed the fishing back then, but when i play nowadays, i just kill a lot of Sernuks - especially since they can also drop plushies! Mining is also rather profitable, if you are willing to sell your gems.

If you're desperate for some gold, you can always look for a cake party over in #💬│lfg-chat !

[spiral lily]

Hi ! I'm jumping on this channel for the first time to ask if anyone ever did a "Palia notebook" where they keep track of bundle items, plot arangement they use often, potato pods bingo ect ... because id love to start one (already got the notebook hehehehe) but i was wondering if anyone did anything similar and if they have a lot in it ?

[hollow crescent]

there’s the palia tracker site ppl use, but for me i use a sketchbook to just write down what was needed for things like furniture or quests, i had a list of every character and would write/erase items they want for the week/what they normally take even wrote their schedules down if it was someone i needed to talk to as i planned my route “need tamala’s by the stables after chatting with hodari to fast travel to town to talk to X” it was wild can’t wait to do it again in elderwoods

i’d even do little doodles on convos if they made me laugh 😅

#🐣│palia-newbies message links to some sites. can be found here

[spiral lily]

ahahha thats insanely cool !!

[hollow crescent]

i’ve gotten a little into scrapbooking as a hobby so i plan to do something similar on a little journal i have

like those travel journals you see on youtube with sketches and stuff

[spiral lily]

oh yes i love those ! i was planning on printing a bunch of stuffd from the offial art and logo to put them in the notebook with my notes along them !

[hollow crescent]

ohh! good idea

[spiral lily]

i hope you share your sketchbook some time! i'd love to see it, ill share mine once i figured what i want exactly, it's kinda like with stickers, i wanna plan before i write anything

[hollow crescent]

nice! i’m organizing the kilima/bahari ones atm so maybe i will share once i have it how i wanna display :D and add elderwoods to it

[vast canopy]

I honestly didn’t know where to put this but I was wondering if there was a lore thread related to Anema, Titus, Galen, hephastetus (I can’t spell), or any of the human relating to the overseers

[feral horizon]

I really wish they would add a tab in game that has all the letters you read in order of the events so that eventually you have a "book" of all the lore and story of the humans

[vast canopy]

FR, Id love to go back and reread things

[feral horizon]

I'm currently in the process of making a Palia "wishlist" I wanna send through the feedback link that has things like that. A record of the tablets we've read, a purpose to the bobbers, more colors and customization options for the furniture, etc etc

[dull crow]

That sounds nice me and my friend send them a 10 site long sheet aswell. Hope they would bring some of those things soon like bigger chest and maybe.

[wispy lance]

If you feel like you want to do stuff faster, you can go for it.
We usually tell people to take it slow and enjoy but that's not necessarily wat you need to do

Also a best way to spend renown would be to max up your focus at the phoenix shrine and dragon as it will help you gain xp for professions faster.

[heavy slate]

Completely up to you...even if you finish your build, you'll have other plots you can work on aswell. If you want gold, look at doing cooking parties..takes a couple of hours but the gold is worth it plus you can see if it's a sell for profit party or focus food party and do one of each.

The game is great that you can rush things or take your time with them so just do whatever you prefer to do and have fun with the most 🙂

[nocturne sparrow]

Been playing with settings. I turned my frame rate up a bit and turned gamma down. The Palian world is so much richer and a little darker which sooths my black little heart so much. 💯 😁

[hexed cloak]

Meanwhile we have been playing with.. other settings...
some might find the NPCs look a bit unsettling, click with caution
#💬│palia-general message
#💻│tech-help message
#💬│palia-general message
#💬│palia-general message

[hollow crescent]

what the-

[nocturne sparrow]

Yeah, some of those are a bit disturbing. I think I'll keep mind running on high because I actually wanna see the REAL Palia. Haha! Thanks for snaring.

[hexed cloak]

This is lower than the low preset in the game, this is a custom config

[jaunty tiger]

Hello, I hope I am using the correct text channel for this. I am sorry if not

I am looking for insight on something. I have never traded before, and don't really know what is worth more than the other outside of the giga frogbert.
I am wanting to trade for the Mouse plush. I am thinking of offering a chappa hut embra plush and a leafy flutterfox plush for it but I don't know if that is too little? Should I add on another plush or even more?
Just wondering how many plushies would be a fair offer for a mouse plushie!

[hexed cloak]

You can chat with the folks in #🤝│trading-archived about the worth of things, but personally leafy flutterfox for a mouse is a bit much, it's quite rare. I mean go ahead if you want to make someone happy but you can get a mouse with a lower offer. Try offering just the embra first, if no one bites then offer a different plushie

[jaunty tiger]

Thank you very much!
The Leafy Flutterfox is a spare one of mine, so I am happy to part with it. I will definitely offer embra though just to see if someone wants it!
Much appreciated ❤️

[arctic swift]

just wanna check, last time i played palia it was never more than 10 palians ahead of me when waiting to enter a place. now i was 100+! o.O what happen

[hardy owl]

mine says 104 ahead of me and I'm stuck on loading

[arctic swift]

SAME

is it the server or did the game just become more popular? did i miss something?

[olive carbon]

Sometimes the servers have a temporary issue and it takes time to reset on their end. It happens.

[woeful garnet]

I'm only seeing that large number trying to get into the Black Market. Haven't been able to access it for about a half-hour... and a couple of restarts...

👆 Well, scratch that. can't even get in the game now. 🙁

[reef egret]

Same thought. I was supposed to join a cake party in half an hour, but my Palia hasn't been working properly for 20 mins. Tried leaving my plot to go to Kilima, it loaded for ages and crashed. When I restarted, said there's 100+ people ahead of me

[woeful garnet]

Looks like you are stuck wherever you happen to be at the moment. 🤷
For me, that would be outside... wanting in... <scratches at door> 🐶

[wary delta]

Same here the EU server is most of the time quite but now im stuck in loading for 10 mins

[forest arrow]

I am REALLY upset.Not only the permanent crashes, slow dialouges, and other Bugs on Switch since over nearly one year now I have problems with login and que of over 200 palians. This game is since one year in Beta and all what S six is doing is to increase the numbers of bugs. Totally unable. Oh yeah but we have much new Designs. Thank you for nothinh Ssix.

[jolly idol]

I wouldn’t keep my hopes up. They fired a lot of staff because they went broke & we have no idea if there’s a new Switch team yet

[modern bridge]

thats....concerning.

[fallow saffron]

I have seen some people say that this game is almost unplayable on their switch :(

[wind sky]

Unfortunately, quite typical for the whole tech sector 😢

[wind sky]

It's not ideal, but it's still possible to enjoy the game on Switch, I think. I just need to close the game and start it again and it's all good again. But yeah, not the most pleasant thing to do, but luckily not happening very often

[fallow saffron]

I have to restart my game too. It’s been more often lately

[loud axle]

I mean not being able to use your A button on Switch is kind of a game-killer.

[kindred zephyr]

Hey! Is there a place where players share their home tour themes? I’m looking to tour some that have a mystery vibe! 🕵️

[runic eagle]

#1267963034110922904

[inland cobalt]

Not sure if anyone else has brought it up, I submitted some feedback but are other people bothered by the tiny inhumane and uncustomizable fish display tanks? Like there's no ponds, no way to keep multiple fish together, and it just looks sad and cruel when you have this huge fish stuffed in a tiny tank he can't even manage to turn around in....

[loud axle]

The fish are static in the display cases aren't they? I just kind of figured the fish were... dead when you put them in lol

[inland cobalt]

I mean they have plants and water I feel like there would be no point in doing that for a dead fish, at that rate just mount them on the wall

The fish are so cute too, I'd really like to put them in a nice big pond and aquarium, feed em, etc

[jolly idol]

You should write in about this!

I’d love it if the fish became gameplay/looked more humane in the tanks. Always weirded me out how they’re just trapped in a box

Oh you did already

[thorn palm]

You think they'll add wild peki's to hunt or at least some sort of bird?
Would be an interesting creature to at to hunting and cooking.

[inland cobalt]

Yeah I was just curious if the wider community shared the sentiment

[round jackal]

Are we allowed to link Palia streamers?

If not Emmapond88 is streaming some Palia right now give her some love

[runic eagle]

Nope, rule number 7 no advertising. #🔖│rules

[scarlet hazel]

we arent allowed to link anything that could be promotion

[round jackal]

Noted

Its free advertisement for the game so its a win win

you'd think companys would want more people to know about their product.

[lyric night]

lol

[polar elbow]

if you're in the palia discord you already know about the product lol

[rocky valley]

I'm seriously beginning to wonder if the proudhorned stag beetle plush spawn is broken or something, I swear I've spent weeks hunting for one and still have never seen one

[scarlet hazel]

its very rng if you get any of the plushies. i dont bother hunting for any

[nocturne sparrow]

I'm glad I turned my gamma down a bit, the night looks so much better to me 😁 Being a creature of the dark, this is more my vibe. https://prnt.sc/sLWhoHB6EFhN

[fluid rivet]

Is there any way to get the pumpkins as decor that are around the town? Or fall themed stuff?

[modern rock]

there's a register in front of zeki's store where you can buy the fall decor

[fluid rivet]

TY YAY

[gentle crypt]

is there a petition for visiting players to be able to have an aerial view of the plot? Like the (H) key view on PC? i think this would be a good addition

[modern rock]

!feedback you can put in feedback using the official form

[opal cypress]

Feedback & Suggestions

Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?

• To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
• To discuss issues with other players: #🦋│issues-discussions
• To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
• For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com

[wind sky]

The main story quest ends with Strange Things Afoot, right? I'm not missing anything? If so, it's quite sad, I've done all the quests way too fast 🫠 At least I still need to unlock the vaults, hopefully, something interesting will happen. The devs tend to make rewards underwhelming 😁

[lyric night]

strange things afoot is the end atm, we should get a story update (conclusion of the prologue) rly soon
then actually start the story with elderwoods in a few months

overall we have 250ish quests atm, so there should be at least a few left for you to do I guesss

[runic eagle]

You can always skim through here and see if there are any discovery, found item, or secret puzzle quests left that you haven't done
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Quests

[ocean knoll]

hi, does the Palia game have an official or any fanmade Conlangs? or is there a script or any recognisable heiroglyphs etc? :)

[west marlin]

Where are the dice from in the preview? Is it a new item?

[golden kiln]

probably a new emote

[thick wagon]

THE LITTLE OWL PET WATCH IT BE AS EXPENSIVE AS OUTFITS 😭

[west marlin]

Oh makes sense! it could be fun for making some mini games with

[golden kiln]

lmao I immediately forsee something like plushie gambling happening based on dice rolls XD

[thick wagon]

while i love plushies....there..there is to meany ;-; i dont have enough room for all these plushies

[carmine gyro]

Well there's a reason the plushie trades are underground

[west marlin]

Just like the habbo hotel days

[gritty socket]

Oooh! More story content, heck yeah

[golden kiln]

okay but that's a very valid point 😄

[gritty socket]

It's been a bit, but I think it's time for me to squeeze Palia back into my rotation

[carmine gyro]

I hope the Winterlights event is more expanded this time, not just finding chests

[sharp breach]

same

plushie trading???? if only plushies ever dropped for me.. yes still salty ¬_¬

[scarlet hazel]

im so tired of so much being locked to the shop

[thick wagon]

:{ i still think we should get 12 days till christmas event or like a advant calander with some free cosmetics or limited edition pets (while ya i know we will never get new free cosmetics/pets its worth to keep asking..hell just even a christmas hat!)

[scarlet hazel]

i just want one single f2p outfit that doesnt look all patchy or tutorial like...

[fiery perch]

omg it's the hip character amber from genshin /halfjoking

[onyx reef]

palia is definitely going back into rotation for me

[thick wagon]

sadly they have said we will never be getting free cosmetics/pets...

[scarlet hazel]

but no, we can only have new hairstyles cause the game can only be funded via the shop

[polar elbow]

I don't think we're actually going to get new hairstyles when they can just make them "wigs" instead 😔

[scarlet hazel]

its a really stupid hill to die on and they arent going to be able to keep funding themselves unless they go into irl merch as well. a single cash flow is nowhere near enough for a game these days at all

[carmine gyro]

at least before 1.0

[west marlin]

You somehow captured this where her eyes weren't both looking in the same direction

[zenith quartz]

I’m just happy for long hair

[fiery perch]

it made me giggle

[warm python]

don't worry guys they're giving f2p players new plushies though

[thick wagon]

wacha mean?

[scarlet hazel]

cool more rng to cry over

[thick wagon]

😭 my room cant hold all these plushies...

[warm python]

yup that's a big reason why I always raised an eyebrow at this game's massive focus on plushies, it's hard to display them all and look natural without a like, specific "trophy room"

[scarlet hazel]

i might peek the new hairstyles but thats about it

[sharp breach]

must be nice

[scarlet hazel]

i STILL have yet to bother with house decoration, the end game, because the lighting still is horrid

[sharp breach]

i just want more story lol

[warm python]

I hope the new story's been what y'all've been waiting for

[scarlet hazel]

at least were getting a conclusion to the prologue so whenever the next update is, it'll be fully out into the world

if it isnt then im writing a better ending, bet.

[raven orbit]

i hope its not just one quest

[warm python]

guessing prologue conclusion means that'll be it for quests in between this and elderwood?

[sharp breach]

fr i'll be so disappointed bc we've been waiting months for this

[sharp breach]

hahs elderwood been confirmed?

[scarlet hazel]

yeah in 2025

[sharp breach]

awesomeee

[warm python]

"early 2025" but as for when that means who knows

[scarlet hazel]

they say early 2025 but i doubt it wont be til later on cause its gonna be hopefully a very very chunky update

[warm python]

Hopefully sooner than later but yeah

[sharp breach]

meh i'll take it lol. i just wonder if switch will be able to handle it..

[scarlet hazel]

it wont

i already know it wont. the switch cant even handle the updates coming out now and the A button glitch is still going on

i think they should just end support for switch if they cant even keep the updates balanced or even seperated for the two platforms

[sharp breach]

welp then i wnt be able to play lol

[thick wagon]

while ya they need away to make money...adding a few free cosmetics wont kill the game.. and give players achievement and goals to re work towards could even make it achivment based! seasonally christmas is next month could have Jel make us a free outfit via a quest or the farmers have a mamma cat and it had kittens. OR hassain found a plumb hound puppy and is looking for it a home ;-;

[warm python]

oh to be a fly on the wall there and see their nonexistent roadmap to know what they even have planned re: switch fixes if any

[thick wagon]

i also wish we could put pets on our plot ..let them roam around!

[scarlet hazel]

they most likely wont end the switch support until it actually starts breaking peoples switches unfortunately, which i can see happening with how the switch glitches keep ramping up

[raven orbit]

considering we're still waiting on pretty basic accessibility features, yeah im guessing they wont worry about it until its impacting their bottom line /gen

[red comet]

Plus with the new switch being rumored to come out soon, it might actually have better specs to support the game

[thick wagon]

please accessibility feature for fishing and the fishing bug is still not fixed ether as far as i know!

[warm python]

Unfortunately I doubt pets will do anything but follow one around, since they have a strict "entire category has to be either completely free or completely monetized" they can't have them do too much

[scarlet hazel]

the new switch prob wont be out til palia is out the door most likely

[sharp breach]

they shouldnt have offered it in the first place bc theyre gonna have a lot of mad ppl who want their money back if they can no longer play

[scarlet hazel]

s6 is known for not thinking ahead..

[thick wagon]

playing itself is free tho ?

or do you mean for cosmetics

[sharp breach]

honestly tho the fact that theyve had so many issues with just normal play through is what has kept me from spending any money

[scarlet hazel]

cosmetics are expensive however

[loud axle]

Yeah there's no internal roadmap, we've known that for ages lol

[fiery perch]

Roan

[warm python]

Hi Roan ❤️

[sharp breach]

cosmetics - you spent like 30 usd on 1 outfit and then suddenly cant use it bc they stopped supporting switch and you dont have a pc that supports it..

[loud axle]

Hiya! Had to pop in and see the patch talk. Excited to see some story content, hopefully it's pretty substantial!

[thick wagon]

oh ya NONO I AGREE WITH YOU 20$ for a pet or outfit? why... why is it that expensive expeshally considering how SMALL some of the pets are!

[fiery perch]

did you see the hit character Amber from Genshin in the trailer? /halfjoking

[hearty nebula]

Someone got mad at me in a FB group bc they were complaining about the premium shop then mentioned how dreamlight valleys premium shop worked and I pointed out they should be upset about a game they paid for having a premium shop rather than the free one 😂

[warm python]

I want to hope it's substantial but I lost my optimism long ago

[thick wagon]

your pc cosmetics transfer to switch and vis versa tho you just dont...get the coins if you buy them via pc or switch and try to buy it via the other....

[scarlet hazel]

i dont get ppl who say 30 bucks for an outfit is reasonable... that's like, one thing of groceries in some places. and its even worse if you arent in the states then its straight up impossible to buy anything

[loud axle]

Is that the one that did the weird sailor moon transformation with more particle effects to blind people with?

[hearty nebula]

Even tho I agreed they're a bit expensive in the first place.

[raven orbit]

I do think DDLV's cash shop, while still bad to have a cash shop in a paid game, is still incredibly good considering it's super easy to get the currency for free. Palia's doesn't even have that

[red comet]

TRUE. I paid $79 (founder's pack) for that goshdarn game. And they keep coming out with different versions of it? It's so greedy

[warm python]

ngl I'm happy to pay extra for a premium outside in a game I've already payed for if the game is worth it and respects my time/devs have earned my trust.

[fiery perch]

Yes, haha. There's some differences ofc, but it still very much looks like Amber but just... blue. It just makes me giggle, is all

[warm python]

never played DDLV but I buy FFXIV cosmetics even though I pay for the game/the sub cause they've earned my trust

[scarlet hazel]

to me itsjust a straight up copy with barely enough to make it different enough tbh. at least make it different enough so you dont possibly get hit with legal stuff if things get out of hand

[vivid oar]

any clue what this is? :S

[fiery perch]

Thinking it was just a differnet way they are showing the cash-shop items.

[thick wagon]

OH LOOK

[scarlet hazel]

most likely a ref to gatcha games

[sharp breach]

... huh? i was talking about how some ppl may only have a switch and not a laptop or pc that supports the game.. and therefore theyre unable to play the game suddenly

[nocturne sparrow]

Okay, I might actually buy this one. Oi! Maybe, maybe, maybe ...

[thick wagon]

Ohhhhhh mybad

[scarlet hazel]

unless someone can pay for me, i cant get any cosmeitcs

[lyric night]

just an animation for the teaser, maybe it will even pop up above the player wearing the outfit, but thats it

[raven orbit]

Genuinely this part didn't make sense to me at all. It doesn't fit Palia's vibe at all, I'm guessing it's their way of making a nod to genshin

[strange oar]

Don't know if this has been thought of but are there bigger chests coming? I feel like 10k is still too small of inventory to have. Or are they waiting for the new area?

[fiery perch]

yeah this is how i viewed it as well

[sharp breach]

it'd be one thing if they were fixing known issues but theyre not. like i keep checking in every once in a while and issues there were present in august are still a problem

[warm python]

Most of Palia's cosmetics don't fit Palia's vibe at all tbh

[scarlet hazel]

no idea if any are on the way or not. we havent gotten any word or confirmation at all so were stuck with the chest we have rn

[thick wagon]

nvm im a dumb dumb thats in palia.. woopsi

[fiery perch]

youre fine lol, if anything, it shows just how out of place it is for the trailer. cuz it just isnt palia's vibe at all

[hearty nebula]

This was literally my point. Like if you're gonna be mad at any game having a premium shop its the game that's already expensive. Like sure you can get the currency somewhat easily but personally I wouldn't want to pay more for a game I paid for. But maybe it's also bc I can't even afford to pay that much for a game rn. (Not to hate on people who can, bc i know having a premium shop is more worthwhile than having it be a paid game for the devs but that's just my take)

[warm python]

Even when I was still actively playing and was more optimistic I didn't want to get any mtx because I wanted to wear a nice outfit, not a costume

[thick wagon]

like look at GW2 ! they have it to were you can get premium currenty via INGAME GOLD (granted....it takes uh...along time buuuuut)

[scarlet hazel]

they havent made any palia fitting outfits since the game started. and the ones that have come out, they just look... really ugly

[strange oar]

Which sucks because there are people that like to hoard items for food party and crafting

[thick wagon]

or just hoard in general...we loot goblins

[strange oar]

That too

[sharp breach]

tbh idrc for in game cosmetics but i do think it's greedy to keep releasing more and more whilst theyre not even fixing month long issues

[nimble gulch]

Kinda looks like a way to potentially level up outfits if it's not just a nod to another game, I really really wanna hold out on it being some sort of new way to gain cosmetics tho
Especially if it's a gatcha ref, then maybe we can gain new cosmetics thru a vending machine or smthg

[thick wagon]

thats just more grinding and or loot box basically...if im spending my money i wanna make sure what im getting i like.. (also if its lvling up cosmetic would we be able to refert it back if we dont like the end result?)

[acoustic ember]

So finally the story continues?

[quartz sedge]

What were the giant dice for?

[lyric night]

an emote

[quartz sedge]

Ohhhh neat

[urban lily]

Lol

[wraith elm]

what I like with FFXIV is that they put with the equivalent of 2 genres

[gritty socket]

Kind of! I'm not sure where it ended up, but people figured out written Majiri is just a letter-by-letter substitution with the English alphabet. If you ever see anyone with 'Ang glod' in their usernames, that's a reference to when we were figuring things out

[marsh depot]

this is what i've been saying since day one, they really can't just rely on one single stream of revenue if they want to survive in the long run, specially when there are free games that still offer you the possibility to earn cosmetics through playing so it's not that it isn't profitable, they just don't want to do it

[polar elbow]

What bothers me so much about the lack of earnable cosmetics is the lack of visual character progression

If you become a super high level hunter, you have no way to show it through your character.
If you earn every single achievement in the game, you have no way to show it through your character.
The only way to make your character not look like a brand new newbie is to fork over cash.
All the earnable rewards that have any ability to put on display are isolated within a housing plot that no one but my closest friends will ever see.

As someone who loves showing off what I earn in online games, palia really has.... nothing for me to earn and show off, so I don't really feel like I have any reason to play :X

[warm python]

#📢│palia-news message also can someone explain to me what a 21firth is

[heady arch]

I feel like if we talk about expensive games with cash shops, we need to mention Diablo 4. I love D4, but i think it's actually ridiculous that by now people paid nearly £70 for the base game and another £40 for the first expansion, and the skins in their cash shop are still double the price of anything that you could buy in DDLV or Palia, with maybe the exception of one or two items. 😂 Plus, as in Palia, there's no way to earn the currency in game 😄

[untold sluice]

Half the cosmetics store feels like they really don't want to make this game, like the cosmetics team hates farm aesthetics or small town fantasy...they couldn't be bothered to make anything in that style

but we keep getting references to IRL Anime

Like, please go make a different game.

[hearty nebula]

Yeah but its not like it adds anything. Which is the point just a way to support the devs. But on the switch if you buy games via the eshop you get gold points, which is basically cash back which you can use to buy the currency. I literally didn't spend a dime specifically to get palias currency (not enough to buy anything fun but still, I just don't buy much stuff in general) obviously only applicable to people who play the switch but still an example. But I just see the shop as just supporting them rather than adding into the game like some companies do with their games. Which is what I personally prefer tbh.

[hidden trail]

And on top of this pretty much everything you can collect in the game is highly RNG dependent. A limited number of items are obtained through questing, but most stuff is pure RNG which feels rough to me.

[heady arch]

I reckon they looked at other games that sell cosmetics, like League, D4, maybe even games like Genshin that sell characters (even though it's gacha), and noticed quickly that the most flashy and most 'interesting' looking items are the most popular... and then just went by that :'')

[untold sluice]

The games with anime aesthetics sold the most anime cosmetics

[hearty nebula]

True I mean just even look at fortnight 💀 they just be adding literally anyone (I don't play it btw just an example)

[scarlet hazel]

fornite and palia are two very different genres tho

[untold sluice]

Fortnite embraced the fact its world didn't make sense, it had no lore, it was just a mod of a different game nobody wanted, and somehow having zero identity was their biggest draw

[scarlet hazel]

and its still popular even now

[hearty nebula]

Yeah it was just an example of like cosmetics tho

That's all I was going for. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[untold sluice]

Yeah, nobody playing Fortnite or even Genshin is going to play Palia...one because action combat pvp and the other because it's Genshin and they probably lost their soul to it a long time ago

[heady arch]

Oh this is no comment if cash shops are good or bad. I bought cosmetics in both Palia and D4, and the reason I didn't buy one in DDLV yet is because I only started the game less than a week ago and this week's shop has nothing to offer. I am not again shops or supporting them.
I just feel like in some games, especially D4, the prices are ridiculous considering the price for the base game!

My favourite example for good pricing is League. It's free, most skins are under £15, and all the skins that came out in the last few years are stunning. I don't mind dropping a bit of cash for those. Especially if it means the game will stay free to play (Even though i know League will always stay f2p, there's no shot they suddenly make it a paid game again haha)

[heady arch]

I don't know anyone who plays Fortnite, but I know a few people who play both Genshin and Palia. Games like Palia are apparently really good to unwind after a play session in a more action based game. I play League of Legends as my main game, and come to Palia and DDLV to relax, too 😄

[gritty socket]

I wouldn't be so quick to say that tbh. People are more flexible genre-wise than you'd think. I've seen people go into games like Palia precisely because they're a different vibe from what they usually play

[fiery perch]

i mean... i play fortnite. a lot.

[untold sluice]

Yeah I'm not saying people aren't genre flexible, I'm just saying why make Palia like other games when the whole point of why people switched from that game to Palia was because it wasn't like that game...specifically MMO Online games. It makes sense to make Palia more like Stardew or something because there isn't yet still an MMO stardew, but trying to nod to and get players from a different game by copying their aesthetics or references other media, imo just undermines the game and its own ability to stand

[fiery perch]

But I still like to chill and be cosy on Palia or games similar. And on fortnite, you can also do creative maps and have more 'cosy' moments too.

[summer wigeon]

I literally left genshin as my main game to play Palia

[red comet]

This. I play Fortnite (clocked in 2k+ hours) and to cool down from that, I like playing relaxing games

[untold sluice]

But do you need a reference to Fortnite when you aren't playing Fortnite?

Do you really want to look like you are playing Genshin when not playing Genshin while you take a break from playing Genshin?

[prisma summit]

Looks to the nite of forts

I am right here... XD

(I also like Genshin, but I don't play myself... Nothing good to run it on... )

[untold sluice]

Do I have to now see people who want to be playing Genshin in their Genshin outfits and now have to see other people's decision to show stat numbers over their hunting kills?

Is OTHER people's cosmetics going to become that invasive that I can't even hunt without a UI effect I would have turned off being thrown in my face?

[red comet]

You could always....not play if it bothers you that much

[untold sluice]

Sorry, I just really think the worst thing about Palia is the outfit department, like they are absolutely the worst thing I've ever encountered in a game like this. I've never seen a developer miss the most fundamental basic homework of what people playing want in order to make cosmetics for a different game

[prisma summit]

Probably only going to be client side if I had to guess...

[untold sluice]

Oh cool, so they added a Genshin Impact reference to the game...so I should quit?

[red comet]

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if something really bothers someone, they don't continue to be around it or anything such as the like as that

[untold sluice]

Maybe just let me turn effects off, because they are intrusive and not my choice

[untold sluice]

I can't choose for someone to not being wearing the Genshin outfit, maybe if we can choose to turn off other people's effects being visible to us because they are intrusive? sure.

[gritty socket]

Is that... not an option? Because I thought that was something the team added (even if it was bugged at first)

[polar elbow]

see, my take on a cash shop is that it's perfectly fine for the cash shop to sell outfits that don't fit the world, hell, it's probably the best place for them tbh. It certainly makes more sense for the cash shop to be selling a high-tech scifi outfit(as an example) than for it to just randomly be in the world with no explanation.

what isn't okay is the total lack of lore friendly outfits that you can earn within the world
Why can't my character that focuses on hunting actually look like a hunter?
Why can't someone who loves fishing look like a fisher?
If this were a traditional fantasy RPG game, that'd be the equivalent of sticking a knight in a plain old T-shirt and shorts and locking knight armor behind a paywall.

[untold sluice]

Pretty positive it was never fixed

[untold sluice]

Sure, if they ever cared enough about the players to add profession outfits in the profession store I'd really lose my total issue with the cash shop.

Because the problem with the cash shop is that it doesn't even offer me lore appropriate world outfits...at all. There are like 4 that kinda fit. None of them are profession related at all, and none of them have anything to do with what we do in Kilima. Like they gave us the chef outfit and it's just so absolutely ridiculous and comical...not even a functional outfit

[warm python]

They never actually implemented it, when it never showed up for people they just quietly took it out of the patch notes and pretended they never said anything

[red comet]

And the real kicker is, the devs will never see this. Or acknowledge this. And if they did happen to see it they won't ever incorporate it into the game. Like why is a girly pop outfit with cat paws, tail and ears even a thing? I don't see any of the NPC's dressed as silly as that, despite it being cute to some people. It just doesn't suit the vibe of the game

And let's not even get into the fact that the darn tail lashes 20 feet around you when someone with the costume on runs by

[warm python]

Unless I missed something they never even went "Whoops sorry it's not working, we'll implement it as soon as we can" they just quietly removed it from the patch notes like no one would notice/remember

if I did miss something then by all means do let me know tho lmao

it makes snailgate all the funnier because the lack of transparency is just kind of hilarious

[loud axle]

Did I see a section of that trailer shows the player mining through that barrier on the home plot?

Even though... It was removed on the reskinned home plots?

[lyric night]

nope, that was the temple of roots

[dire prawn]

What is the best item to use in the glow worm farm?

[loud axle]

Ah, pity

[fiery perch]

idk if it was answered yet, but it was added that The person wearing the outfit coudl turn off effects. It apparently didnt work or something? so they just removed it from the patch notes, and then... never added again.

And again, it was just the person who wore the outfit, coudl turn off the effects. It wasn't something for client-side.

[untold sluice]

I want the option to turn off all effects that other people are wearing as well as my own, because they make the game look terrible

[gritty socket]

Yeah, a client-side toggle would be the better option

Then again, I'm reminded that Guild Wars 2 didn't have the option to turn off Legendary weapon effects client-side for a bit, either

[pliant vigil]

Was that a teaser for job classes or a skill upgrade with the arrow?

[gritty socket]

I think it's just how they're marketing the new set of cosmetics. We won't know for sure until patch notes are out, though

[rare pine]

It might just be an effect for that cosmetic. Like the sword effect on the other one.

Also, the trailer didn't really excite me but the music was cool.

[polar elbow]

the flashy effects actually ruin most of the cosmetics for me tbh

[alpine cliff]

Wooooow. Look at all of the shiny new content...that you need to purchase. I really do love this game, but the constant stream of "premium" cosmetics is starting to get old.

[prisma summit]

Hearing people complain! Is starting to get old... XD

[alpine cliff]

@prisma summit perhaps the devs should start to listen then. Maybe that'll help lessen the complaints.

[prisma summit]

This is true, but with the little work force they have now due to old layoffs, you can't really expect them to get to EVERYTHING right away, right? It takes time to flush out such a big game as Palia, so you gotta cut them some slack... (Even if some of there moves have been dumb on there end... XD)

[alpine cliff]

@prisma summit They release paid cosmetics, but don't make enough and fire a bunch of people, but let's keep doing that exact thing! I know that designing a game is difficult and I'm not against paid content, but is this all it is? New update: mostly cosmetics! You can have plushies! But here is a truck load of paid cosmetics! When is the focus on content going to happen?

[weak wigeon]

more hairstyles?

[prisma summit]

Probably next year at the latest...
We know the Elderwoods are coming and that's a WHOLE new map! And that probably means new critters, plants, THINGS! XD

Bunch of stuff is coming... We just gotta wait and chill with filler goodies till then

[polar elbow]

What is released every update WOULD be sufficient for most, if the content:cash shop ratio wasn't something like 20:80.
The complaints are about the higher-ups deciding that the game's updates being 80% cash shop, 20% content, and that is a management problem, not a development time problem.

[alpine cliff]

@prisma summit I am excited about the Elderwoods, but this game needs more free cosmetics that are learnable. Give people more reasons to keep progressing beyond decorating. Cosmetics locked behind reaching certain ranks would be fantastic! But no, you need to pay for them.

[polar elbow]

The suits in charge could easily say "hey, that outfit we made, why don't we add it to a guild shop instead of the cash shop?" and it wouldn't change development time one bit.
People are getting bored of decorating houses and want a wider variety of earnable rewards, and the items added in each patch could have been plenty if they weren't all cash shop exclusives.

[alpine cliff]

Earnable*

I would be fine with them taking older shop items and putting them into a rotation of being earnable. Even better, put them into an event that lets you earn coins or tickets that can be used to purchase them!

Maybe some kind of market event where you're already playing mini games to earn a certain type of currency that allows you to purchase prizes...

And the shop items could show up for major holiday events.

[lusty pilot]

Ok, I understand that the premium shop is Singularity 6's way of making money but would it hurt them to add in some new outfits and more color choices for outfits and companion pets for the players who don't actually have real cash to spend in the premium shop. The players who don't have the real money to spend in game are still supporting the game by playing it and through word of mouth.

Do they have any plans for doing this? I hope so, because these are hard times and we don't all have the extra money to spend in game, but we should all be given new pretties to wear and cute pets to cuddle 🙂

[rare pine]

Iirc, they have not made any plans from free cosmetics. Of course, they're allowed to change their minds but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[warm python]

People have been told that for months and months and months. Everything's "don't worry about the filler and just getting plushies, just wait, next patch will be better, next patch will be better, acquisition will make things better, Elderwoods will make things better"

Eventually people are going to give up on the game and many have. There's only so much sitting around tapping one's foot they can do. Where will the goalpost be moved if Elderwoods isn't the giant thing people are hyping it up to be?

bc as someone who's been here since beginning of open beta I can assure you that goalpost has gone to pluto and back (and several who have been here since alpha will say the same thing)

I'm glad to see they're finally adding some new quests but as I've said, Elderwoods better absolutely knock it out of the park especially for F2P players

[nocturne sparrow]

Elderwoods will be make or break for me. I already took a hiatus and just started back a couple months ago. We'll see how Elderwoods goes & then I'll decide whether to stay & invest more time & money into Palia or just archive it.

[neat shadow]

I always argue we should have an outfit for each profession that is earnable in game, a major goal to work towards. Heck, even a free pet you can get in the game, another type of major goal to work towards. Like the plushies or trophies.

[alpine cliff]

@neat shadow unfortunately, most confuse high time-sync rewards with premium items. The big wigs then use that to market them as such and turn them into paid premium items. No grind required! In fact, you can't grind for them at all!

[neat shadow]

Right. It's unfair for those who don't want to afford to put money into a game, for whatever reason. It's also unfair for those who do. Just like the trophies, it's another and better way to show off an accomplishment that you worked hard for. The trophies I mentioned? No one will see my trophies or my precious jewels, because no one comes to my house. I don't speak for everyone of course, but I feel like that's the majority of the player base. Although, if I had a rare pet only acquirable through some hard quest line in game? If I had an outfit that required rare items + a hard quest line, or maybe a treasure at the end of one of those cool dungeons (I enjoyed the dungeons), would feel SO good. To be able to actually show off to the server you're in because other players can see you. This would make the game 100% better.

It wouldn't even have to be a lot. A cool outfit per profession, a few hard to obtain pets, boom.

[obtuse minnow]

Is there a voice channel in this discord??

[warm python]

Nope, too difficult for them to moderate

The only player retention they've been going all into is plushies, instead of fun things like that, working towards rewards you can properly show off

So for those who are done decorating and/or just not into plushies it's like....not much to do

And trust me as someone who has put OODLES of hours into other online games to get shiny swords or a cool outfit, it's a good way of keeping those player metrics up

I'm not sure why S6 has gone all-in on plushies and little else all year other than I guess lack of manpower after all the layoffs

[alpine cliff]

I don't have an issue with plushies, it provides another reason to do those activities. That is a good thing. But there needs to be more than JUST plushies. Locking tool skins behind the shop was a terrible idea. They would have been perfect for earnable rewards, simply by playing the game.

[warm python]

Yeah, like I have no issue with them doing plushies, the issue is that there's nothing but

So you get people like me, Tarina, others, who are more interested in earning cosmetics (doesn't even have to be overly fancy ones!) in online games over little collectible plushes and funko pops, being like okay well nothing to really do

[celest maple]

I personally would be frustrated if something I paid money for became earnable. I'm for outfits becoming earnable 100% but it needs to be things not available in the premium shop already.

[warm python]

Which is fine, I haven't seen anyone say that the shop items need to be for free

Just that there needs to be some F2P earnable outfits alongside it

tbh most of the people I see here wanting F2P outfits are turned off from the cash shop outfits as it is for being overly fancy lmao

[celest maple]

The person I responded to actually did suggest that, which is why I said that.. lol

[warm python]

Ahh lmao I'm a bit under the weather today, didn't see that it was a reply

Let me correct that then, I haven't seen almost anyone say that

[celest maple]

I forgive you.. lol

[warm python]

From what I've seen over the months (or rather, year plus now) most people just want things like, say, a cute fisher's outfit for fishing stuff, or a nice pair of overalls from farming, that kind of stuff

or even a tailoring skill for some other simple but nice outfits, give Jel a reason to exist that isn't a cash shop promo

however the whole insistence of hardlocking entire categories instead of items to free or pay really restricts what S6 can/is willing to do, if they do insist on sticking to that creed

which is why we'll likely never see pets do anything more than they do now, which is a shame cause I've seen a lot of cute ideas for them

[alpine cliff]

@celest maple I can understand that. Which is why it needs to be earned through a massive grind or quest line. Make the grind worth it for people that want to really do the work. We could even have them be time-gated. You can only do the work to earn them during specific events.

[loud axle]

I'm sorry I've just gotta back to the person saying they're "tired of listening to people complain."

It's been going on four years of watching this game develop with very little lateral movement. It's not a matter of "just wait for Elderwoods, it's gonna be so much new content!" when it inexplicably took them four years to make it.

There was no forward thinking. Never has been. Skills weren't capped, so people are going to fly through that new content in a heartbeat. Yeah, it might take a week or two instead of the day that a lot of the patches lately have been, but I think people are greatly overanticipating despite us constantly being let down time and time again.

[mossy mica]

Hi, everyone. It’s been a hot minute. With the update around the corner, what do you all think is a sufficient reward for finishing the “Wait for the story to continue” quest?

[lyric night]

renown /j

considering the reward options we have, maybe a nameplate
they did a custom one for maji market as well, a nameplate for finishing the prologue is a possibility I guess

[scarlet hazel]

most likely just renown and some useless stuff

[mossy mica]

Imagine getting 100 renown and nothing else. 😫😭 Renown wouldn’t be so bad if they added more things to purchase with it. I wouldn’t mind a nameplate and a really cool decor item related to the quests.

Lots of gold would be nice, but I know various people are close to the gold cap.

[noble spoke]

i'm just gonna leave this here and yall gonna be real mad for no rational reason but:

free to play games owe you nothing

[mossy mica]

I mean, I’m not mad, so 🤷🏽‍♀️

[signal kayak]

renown and friendship points with subira (which is great for those who have maxed out her friendship /s)

[signal kayak]

if they want money to and stay in business they do

last i checked it's having people play the game that will spend money on it. if people don't play, they don't spend

[mossy mica]

Genuine question so I understand: how are friendship points great for players that have already maxed out Subira’s friendship?

[lyric night]

yeah renown reward would not be bad if there would be more things to spend it on

[noble spoke]

they could easily turn around and make elderwoods premium playerbase area and id probably buy it

[signal kayak]

hmm, oh sorry, i thought "/s" was short for sarcasm sorry it didn't come through as that

[marsh depot]

I don't even know what to purchase with renown anymore, I already maxed out everything 😭 Nameplates would be nice though

[signal kayak]

and i don't doubt some people would, but they would really destroy palia if they did, so those that spent the money would lose out on it

[mossy mica]

OH, for me it had the / and the S on different lines, so I didn’t read it as such. 😅 My bad!

[marsh depot]

I'm not mad either, I just want this game to succeed

People are allowed to have opinions and share criticism too

[mossy mica]

@lyric night @marsh depot Right? Being maxed on everything just makes it harder to get excited about a reward. It’s great for newer players, though, that may not have purchased everything with renown yet.

[lyric night]

I'll take anything at this point even idk modification kits, even stones
its better than the renown overflowing again at some point

[mossy mica]

A statue of each of the temples would be nice.

[mossy mica]

Plot twist: S6 took stone away from the rummage piles just to give us x5 stone for finishing the quest, after it sat in limbo for half a year. 🥹

[marsh depot]

Yeah exactly! Hopefully when Elderwoods comes out renown will be given a new use or something, even if it was just more wallpapers or roofing

[marsh depot]

Please give us a way to craft modification kits as well

[lyric night]

a statue to boost our stamina would be nice so I can simply spacebar spam my way up a cliff

but yeah if we get anything it will be wallpaper, flooring and roofing

[untold sluice]

Definitely just this.

The trailer was basically:

1 new quest showcase where Subira probably teleports around like all the other temple ones...and 1 new location (water temple extension) and some fetch/pickup quest content related.

Otherwise it's just the new hairs...which none are really for me but there are so few in this game. But faces were more of a priority to me than hair...hair is also something you can buy in the shop, the only hair they needed was more black hair options.

The cosmetics/plushies I really could care less about and just keep making the game worse for me

[marsh depot]

People have been making this suggestion for ages, it would be really amazing if they actually implemented it, but my bet is also on more wallpaper stuff.

[untold sluice]

Im hoping apothecary/brewing profession comes around and we can make buffs that boost speed for an hour or increase harvest time for resources, etc.

[mossy mica]

Potions/magic + a Tamala guild. I beg. I plead.

[untold sluice]

For renown I think they just need a renown store that has things we want more than 1 of....also like...a new plot to sink more resources and renown into

Because they did plot skins the new plot kind of has to be a new layout, but they may just write it off as another place to store stuff

[hollow crescent]

even a plot skin that anyone (even free players) can work towards, make it a big number of resources like how the order furniture was, not meant t be gotten right away but over time as you play

[mossy mica]

If they took RNG items away and made them purchasable by renown, mayhaps?

[hollow crescent]

a little rng is ok, but some alternate for those that don’t do a particular skill maybe sure

[untold sluice]

Or use the dupiffier to copy items for renown

[mossy mica]

Y E S! I need more than one of some of the friendship rewards.

[untold sluice]

Yeah, the current default plot is ridiculously bad, giving free players a regular looking plot that added maybe even new functionality like a fishing dock that gives you access to different gameplay or farm plots...like, anything.

[untold sluice]

Exactly, like only getting 1 seed for the growable furniture was an insane idea. Dupifier solves a lot of those problems

[hollow crescent]

you’d have to put some kind of cool down on that if they did it tho

[untold sluice]

I dont really see how it matters

it's just decor and expression...like what could possibly be the issue? As long as it costs a meaningful amount to use the doubling effect it's just a resource/time sink

[mossy mica]

I really like Tamala, Subira, Jina, Hassian, Sifuu, and Kenli’s friendship rewards. I’d love to have more than one.

[untold sluice]

The fact we only get like...1 record player is insane

[mossy mica]

Are you referring to the Bahari Boyz quest reward?

[hollow crescent]

to me it’s just so you won’t get things as quickly, like i think it’s rather fast to make all this furniture xD the order one i liked cuz i worked at it over time but that’s probably just my mindset from playing other mmos where stuff takes a while to get

[mossy mica]

I think this depends on people’s progress in the game before the Order furniture was released. Many people had enough resources to craft it at once.

[lyric night]

the recorder still makes me sad it used to be my favorite item when it had its funny little animation and note effects

[mossy mica]

surprised Pikachu

It just dawned on me that it doesn’t do that anymore.

[untold sluice]

Im assuming doubling the item will be more costly overall than just making the item or doing the quest

[lyric night]

at least they added the music back to it a few months ago

[marsh depot]

Thissss please just let us craft them! Even if they have to cost expensive items like green pearls or something 😭

[untold sluice]

Why I have to spend what could be 2 years fishing to get 1 more of a Makeshift set item I already have from RNG? Just let me spend renown or something to get it so I can spend my time doing what I want

And a lot of this would be solved if trading was actually trading and not just plushies

[marsh depot]

Wait it doesn't anymore? 😭

[mossy mica]

I don’t like noise, so I keep all music players in game turned off.

[scarlet hazel]

i just listen to my own music

[marsh depot]

I really hope they expand to be able to trade furniture or other items cause I don't even have enough plushies to trade for other plushies

[lyric night]

I can't even remember when they removed it, it was removed a looong time ago

[marsh depot]

Man that's such a shame, I mute all the music as well but details like those are always appreciated

[mossy mica]

I do sometimes, too, but playing the game with no game audio makes me feel I’ve lost one of my senses. It’s also helpful for me to hear the environment, so I know what’s happening (like being able to hear Glambi teleport means it’s nearby, and I go try to hunt it).

[untold sluice]

I have so many plushies I dont want and would rather have rare furniture

[marsh depot]

I have soooo much furniture I could trade instead

[mossy mica]

MAKE MAKESHIFT FURNITURE THAT YOU’VE ALREADY FISHED UP PURCHASABLE WITH RENOWN

[marsh depot]

Or at least let us trade them for gold and let us have an economy system this way

[alpine cliff]

If F2P games don't owe anything to the people that play them, then why play them? If a company is relying on the support of the community, then they 100% owe something to those players in the way of meaningful content that justifies the purchase of any micro transactions.

[scarlet hazel]

yeah that person came in here to stir the pot and thought they did something

[alpine cliff]

That's so disappointing

[untold sluice]

Yeah if you have the achievement for getting something for an RNG table we should be able to just buy it again outright. Like the entire Zeki gambling/Claw/hotpot stuff

Like I just want the pirate furniture barrels...but I can't get it, and I'd trade so many plushies for 1 of it

[mossy mica]

I’d like to be able to place old quest items on my plot, like the letters and bottles we’ve fished up.

[mossy mica]

Subira’s gift looks like a ||crystal ball.|| I have it on my village plot in my fortune telling tent. I’d love to have one on my main plot.

[untold sluice]

Yeah acting as if an infinitely reproducable outfit is worth 30 dollars in itself is crazy...it's dev cost once reinbursed is just now no-cost gains, it's obviously the reason we pay the premium is to support the game to make stuff we want to play. Hence we are paying for the game to continue, not the cosmetics.

[marsh depot]

Right? I don't have her gift yet but I would love to be able to place it on multiple plots if I wanted

[alpine cliff]

@untold sluice I'll never understand how this is a hard concept to grasp.

[scarlet hazel]

some people really just love having their head shoved into the ground and listening to their own thoughts

[mossy mica]

I definitely need more than one sword from Sifuu.

[mossy mica]

Valid. I haven’t played in while, then got back on today. Awesome fishing day + some more decorating, and I’m like “that’s enough Palia for a week.”

[mossy mica]

I have two of the barrels. I only just got the pirate ship picture frame within the last month of me playing. I’m still missing a few items, though.

[marsh depot]

I've only been logging on for cooking parties 😭 I'm gonna log back in tomorrow to get some more halloween stuff and then I'm back to Brighter Shores

[marsh depot]

If free games don't owe us anything, we don't owe them playtime either then 🤷‍♀️

[loud axle]

Hi sorry I'm working but this is a terrible take.

Free to play is a calculated business strategy that relies on you spending more money than the game is actually worth.

It's actually pretty predatory, not something they do out of the goodness of their hearts.

[scarlet hazel]

exactly. and there would be a real short list of games that anyone would play too if that were the case

[raven scroll]

if you block someone in game they wont see your name like ever right?

[mossy mica]

I stocked up on a few more candles.

Here is your friendly reminder to anyone that sees this: don’t forget to stock up on Halloween/autumn decor before the patch. 🖤

[hollow crescent]

they can see your messages but you wont see theirs, also reduced chance to be on same server i think

[pallid ferry]

So a storyline quest with Subira and the Gardener, at least 4 new fish plushies, an owl pet, "Winterlight" decor and event, one new (hopefully free) hairstyle, new menu with fighting classes (possibly linked to changing clothes without a wardrobe?), damage numbers, hammer (or another skin for the pickaxe), and possible dice emote.

[lyric night]

actually 4 new free hairstyles
damage numbers are part of the bow toolskin, hammer is also a toolskin for the pickaxe
the classes thing was extremely likely only for the teaser if anything it'll be tied to the outfit

[pallid ferry]

Oh the new hairstyles will be free??? Thank goodness! I've been pausing and rewinding and only just now realized all the fishers have new hair. I tunneled in on that braid. It'll look so good with hats, so long as it doesnt glitch into whatever top I wear (rip backpack tops)

[loud axle]

I'm actually going to be legitimately mad if the damage numbers are part of a skin.

How utterly misleading to newer players. 🙄

Here I was excited that maybe they were moving to a more skill-based hunting system where you'd do more damage for where on the creature you hit

[feral horizon]

I genuinely think they need to expand on all the skills. Like... after level 10 what is the point other than getting medals for the few things you can buy at the guild shops?

[lyric night]

its just the usual finisher effect they add to bow toolskins lately
would not expect anything else tbh there is not rly a need for dmg numbers in Palia anyways, they would serve no purpose

[mystic forge]

honestly theres enough cosmetic Items in the game, theres been one added almost every patch, give us something else to actually do v_v

[lyric night]

yes I get the frustration about cosmetics, won't argue about that
and also the lack of actual gameplay content

but u can't expect them to not add any cosmetics with a patch

[mystic forge]

but when the Cosmetics are more so the focus of a patch over everything else then what?

Yes cosmetics keep the game going but why keep the game going if theres no one playing it cause theres nothing to do?

[scarlet hazel]

tbh they could do without adding a new cosmetic every single patch. unless theyre hurting that badly for money, they should be focusing on fixing bugs and making the switch more compatiable then worrying about a new outfit everytime they need to update the game or release content

[mystic forge]

i REALLY wanna know what S6s current Schedule is, Are they working on more content? More Cosmetics? New Professions? Are they getting ready for Winter Break?

[feral horizon]

I feel like they could add one outfit pet and skin, and then they should add a new furniture set for us to make and decorate with, and add a new genuinely good quest every patch. Like yes add the cosmetics to pay for their work but also even the people paying for those things still want new content.

[scarlet hazel]

i really have to wonder how management even manages the game right now too... do they even read feedback anymore?

[feral horizon]

It really feels like they don't. It feels like all they are focused on is the Elderwoods, and cosmetics. I've been sitting here like... how about you make what you already have WORK before adding new content. Everything feels half done

[scarlet hazel]

yeah... and the fact the game feels more singleplayer then ever too. i really dont see how this game is still somehow floating

[pallid ferry]

Still waiting on the other modification color palettes. Still waiting on Tish's Starfall furniture. Still waiting on Delilah to teach me how to feed pekkis and ormuus.

[mystic forge]

maybe i can hold out hope that All the things we've been wanting and talking about are just being bundled into the Elderwood Update, but thats being Really optimistic v_v

[scarlet hazel]

i doubt they will add that anytime soon before the game ends up closed

[feral horizon]

This is the thing my husband complains about the most. He is a huge gamer and he is like there is literally no point in playing with other people. Like the party buff and the fishing buff are nice, but could EASILY be replaced with an in game item that adds those buffs.

[pallid ferry]

I don't understand the holdback on the other color palettes for furniture. That seems like an easy release- they've already been seen in game

[scarlet hazel]

and what would really help with fishing is something that would slow the fish down. fishing is the most inaccessable skill in the game and nothing has been done to ever make it easier. and now they wanna add plushies to it

[feral horizon]

Yeah what is with that? Just add the starstone wallpaper colors as the color palette

[lyric night]

one of the artists also has the full color palettes of all the furniture on their artstation makes it even funnier that we didn’t get them yet bcs they would be enough for a patch imo

[feral horizon]

I personally don't find the fishing that hard but I know so many people do and that makes me so frustrated for them. If they have a skill that a huge part of their player base hates... maybe change it! Make the tuning fork useful! Add buffs to the bobbers, like those aren't hard things.

[pallid ferry]

"Colorful Creations" patch next pleaseeeeeeee

[loud axle]

Nah don't worry we got some furniture seeds you can get by partying.

Typical... We asked for incentives to encourage partying and the response was "you want exclusive items you can only get by partying, got it"

[shadow steeple]

is it more likely for me to get the lucky zeki item from the upstairs lucky box machine, downstairs one, or does it not make a difference