#beta-season-test-chat
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did u see krill's dinner plate 
Yeah I saw
I should perhaps have phrased myself more clearly. With the four quests we have been given, I don't find myself drawn to any story or the fate of these scavengers. Why are they looking for crystals? Who are they? Did they arrive here after all the other ancestors passed? How many different generations of ancestors are there, in that case?
But most of all, we got to test the quests over four consecutive days. This is not how the Live version will be. Most probably, like in Flight, we get one quest every other week. I don't see myself being drawn to this new area in between that.
Oh yes I get you completely, I feel like there’s something lacking in the spirit narrative; Because with the previous seasons, there’s always a clear reward structure. In Ark, Sanctuary, Flight and Assembly, there’s a sense of repairing, your reward is watching the main area grow and the benefits that come with that (Paths or just visual growth), and in Dreams, TLP, and Prophecy, the reward for completion was more story and a new plot beat with a new task assigned to it. You know what your doing, you’re either helping a place, or helping unfold a story
I wish I knew more about the story, I’m helping them find treasure/resources but why, what’s it for? What’s the reward here? The spirits are so cute and I adore them but what is going on. I wish there was more to them, especially Abyss Guide since they take a heavy backseat to everything (They’re quite literally in the background of cutscenes)
I’m sure quest 5 will have answers to some of the questions, but I do wish there was a sense of “here’s the story” and/or “here’s what your actions contribute” from the start, especially with how minimal the changes to the area are (Removal of the barriers is it) and the lack of story (We only see progression in the form of how many crystals are collected, nothing else is really clear)
I will be sending feedbcak dw i just like to make that clear everytime i babble HDBDBDB
(OH MY GOD THAT MESSAGE WAS LONGER THAN I EXPECTED I USE 100 WORDS WHEN 10 WOULD DO)
Lol, the 10 word version: "what? why?"
that's just two words
HDHHDHD
I appreciate that TGC is trying something new, but I also don't understand why or how it is supposed to fit into what we already have. Why are we all of a sudden in such dire need of sea-based shiny things?
even something like showing the power diamonds at work would make it clearer what they actually are. I'm thinking like a cutscene of past ancestors putting the barriers in place and the then shallowly submerged slowly becoming more and more overtaken by nature to show the passage of time. currently the only way to know the power diamonds even have utility and purpose might be to either abstract from murals, or to just be well versed in lore from the get-go
Perhaps it's the classic case of the creator knowing everything, because they made it, but forgetting that the player (or reader/watcher etc) is not in on that whole brainstorming session that preceeded the creation?
In my opinion, as the new seasonal area is quite big and we want to swim underwater to every corner possible, 2 more winged lights would be perfect
or maybe just wait and see what the final cutscene reveals
Don’t you guys think it’s a bit inconsistent? We can breath and walk underwater in valley lake. But not in any other water 🤔 this kept bothering me honestly
It was never possible to dive under water until recently, the water at the rink is not actually water, but rather an illusion. Maybe it will change for consistency in the future
Of course we can do that, but I think we should also consider what a new player or anyone who isn't in beta will be experiencing. The final cut scene seems far away for us, even though it will happen in January. Imagine in Live, it's going to be 8-10 week!
the only thing I did not like with the new version of the underwater part of the crystal bay is the placement of the krills...they are too deep...I enjoyed them on the underwater tower, it gave the 4th seasonal quest more adrenaline
It's gonna come after live release, then another 1.5 month to have the last cutscene goes live 
I actually agree with this. Especially since winglights replenish air. It could reward us for swimming to the farthest corners and exploring
correcting...I also did not like the new ship where the season of abyss guide is...the older version was so unique...now it looks exaclty like very boat in sky
I have doubt on how would it even possible to fit 5 people 
Hello Ktjn - 3 Krill in a Trenchcoat! I think the one wing light in the tunnel is nice and enough. It's great to find it and a nice reward for searching and being curious, but I feel like too many ones would not fit the area as it gives us wing power but the season is mostly on diving... (And sorry if I shouldn't have pinged, I know it's late but you said in a message you wanted pings if I understood correctly).
the area looks so empty without krills
the krills are there, but they are placed too deep in my opinion
Am I losing it? Been discussing this with a friend in beta - is the polluted geyser event in Sanctuary Islands every hour, or every 2 hours. I thought I saw a note from TGC saying that Grandma was every 2 hours unlike the polluted geyser which would be every hour.
Geyser is every two hours
geyser is at :00 - :15, grandma is :30 - :45, following the same timing structure as geyser
so both happen in the same hour
Thanks you two!
Hello and sorry for the late reply.
As I did for season of flight, I still find that one isn’t enough.
The next wedge at 200 is already an unrealistic goal considering the number of WL currently available.
One WL per season makes it even less reachable.
Another thing to consider is placement. Hiding them is fun, but players won’t risk actually losing WL to get the one in the abyss on their WL run. In fact I don’t think I would take the detour for the one WL.
Now if there were more…
Those are my thoughts. Eagerly hoping for that 12th wedge to happen someday 🙂.
Have a great day!
yeah - one in a new season is a sadly small offering. And putting it in an area that can cause you to lose other WL just to get that one is just a poor decision imo.
Yes, it’s disheartening. I’m having such a hard time with the diving mechanics too, them relying on the camera when the camera is known to have a will of its own
I wish I could be qualified for the test. I would like to provide advice as much as possible, but I don’t know the actual operation status.
Judging from the screenshots seen in this update, it feels like the design of the season has been reduced. I prefer the old boats and underwater plants. They are more like what this season should look like. It feels like there are more corrections to be made about this season, such as more in-depth stories or more attractive costumes, but I can only do small talk now
As it stands - this is probably the first season I won't purchase. 😦
you don't need to be a beta tester to submit feedback?
if you have opinions about the season, submit them anyway
I agree. I was a bit underwhelmed by it all, and then battling the diving mechanics to stay alive was just “nope”.
I’d like to explore freely but it’s impossible.
Provide some ideas. What attracts me most at the moment is the season of dream. The balance of maps, stories and costumes is impeccable. I think the region of the new season can narrate the meaning of the abyss in a more macroscopic way. After all, this is a wasteland and It has a profound story and is a charming place
This. I feel like the problem is that the area is too big, so they can't load it up with stuff without everyone's devices heating up. I'd honestly prefer a slight downsizing in return for more attention to detail. Sure it's big, but if what you're exploring is kind of boring then what's the point?
also this channel is for discussion. If you want the devs to more easily see your opinions, post in #beta-feedback
Oh trust me, I've sent feedback 
oh I was addressing wayne dw 
Thank you, I tried to provide feedback

Where are the kriilllls?! I just went down the tower and saw no krilly bois, what happened??
they're hiding
The big one ate the smaller ones
To be fair the reason why ultimates are so sought after, is because of their exclusivity
If you could get them in the shop after the season ends, they’d loose their value
I don't think so, bonfire hasn't lost its value
There can be nothing like having a ultimate permanently 
Oh and tgc has added all the ultimates with functionality as a spell now, except the umbrella is the basic one 👀
I absolutely cannot properly convey how diminished the whole Crystal Bay feels now with that Ikea prototype looking replacement for the boat. The only thing the original needed was some small details added.
Imagine if the last quest allows us to see the Leviathan 
A spell is different from having the item though, and spells cost candles and we all know how expensive and hard it is to get candles
The reason they’re so sought after is either their usefulness and/or the personal attraction towards a given cosmetic.
For example, I am underwhelmed by SoF’s ult and I don’t care for Assembly’s yellow cape, yet I have both, having played both seasons.
What I really want are the jelly umbrella, because transparency means that you see where you’re going, plus it looks hella nice; the manta cape and the musical instrument from Sanctuary.
This might become an unrelated discussion about our ults wishlist, but I really want the bonfire both for utility & sentimental value, some ults of past seasons I wasn’t so thrilled to own and have in my collection. SoA isn’t going to be
Oh, I see
I do agree, the quests are rather repetative and all we get out of them are finding new places, maybe. The only way we learn anything about the spirits is through their cutscenes.

it's worth noting that we still aren't a full month into testing yet, so there's still a decent amount of time left for improvements
Idea I had at like
3am
What if the nausicaa mask was like the sword pants from TLP?
Available for candles only after finishing the last quest, and only available in the season? That way, everyone has access to it, so the debate of increasing its time/the advantage it would giv p2p players is diminished. That way they could bring back the cracked mask as an ult maybe make it a bit fancier, but also have the nausicaa mask available for all, meaning that its functionality could be improved?
Gonna drop this in feedback, but what do yall think?
Please ping
I've mentioned this idea a number of times as have others..have had no feedback from the devs on this idea unfortunately.
Dang
I think I could see that working, I believe the rebreather should be more of a bonus than a necessity for diving, so a general improvement to the air system with the rebreather as a bonus for those who love the depths seems better, it also means people can’t pay to win by getting ults day one, and f2p arent barred from it, i think that plus keeping the spells available.
((Also taking back this point, I was being silly and I realized some flaws GHDHDH))
also igc rebreather mask would be cool just NOT 200 i would cry.. i cant do that again.. im not strong enough…. /lh
But think of the trip the sword pants went on before being finalized as IGC obtainable. So, who knows? I think if the idea has crossed their minds and they are reluctant to go that route again, it may be do to player reception. I don't think many were jazzed about a 200 candle purchase. I saved for a long time in preparation, alot of folks probably don't have the stash or time to cr so madly.
Maybe make a spell version kinda like previous season ults that have huge utility (like bonfire) and make the spell let you breath under water for the whole duration and the mask less time under water? (like half the spell's duration)
i highly support the idea of more spell ults
i mean we have bonfire
Man I would cry if it was 200 if they went through with it
And also the f2p p2w thing, and exclusivity, it created a divide which I dont think should be something within sky. It is about friendship, so why is there such an exclusivity, and therefore decide, around ults, especially when they have functions
They already made a spell version of the rebreather mask tho. Lasts 30 minutes with 15 minutes CD
Ahhh yep I remember that
But does it let you breathe the whole duration of the spell?
It works the same as the ult mask
To my beliefe it gives you the same function, you only have 30 minutes of that function though, if that makes sense?
Yeah you’re 100% right, I think the spells for utility ults is a step in the right direction! Making it more available for everyone, regardless of playstyle.
Anyone know how to replay the quests for abyss? (Not the memeories) I wanna experience when the encounter the giant creature again
since the chat is active rn— what are y’all’s opinions on abyss? me myself... i won’t beat around the bush, it feels empty and lacking the soul/polish that TGC is known for. overall, i’m not excited for it. i know this is beta and things could still change— but to me, i feel lack of excitement towards it.
not possible sadly
Unfortunately I don’t think there’s a way to replay quests yet
only quests activated via meditation circle are replayable
anything activated by the quest guide isn't replayable
Luckily it's in early testing, then. There is possibly more polish planned in the future, just waiting for assets and such to be completed by the Art team.
Yeah I agree, I do think if they expand the greenery underwater and maybe add some on land I do think it would be nicer, or turning the saturation up a bit more. Again, we’re still in early stages for testing so we’ll have plenty of time for change
i hope so— i pray this won’t be the final piece.
Flashbacks to the ikea mattresses we had for quite awhile in Prophecy testing
ktjn said they tend to add a bunch of changes at once and then take out what people dont like
I….ikea mattresses???
im a beta baby,
the what? i want to see tye funny mattresses
but yeah rn abyss is missing the mark a bit for me, but I excitedly await future builds and updates and polish 
Same here! It’s obvious tgc is stepping out of their comfort zone for this season, (we’re literally diving instead of flying)
we are only 3 builds into testing (and less than a month)
big expectations!
200 candles for a mask that gives extra 10 seconds
hmmm
We have had 5 builds
oh i have been sleeping on builds huh
Before platforms in the trials were polished by the art team, we just got basic cubes, rectangular and octagonal prisms for the platforms in water, earth, and air trials.
(I'm keeping track because I have had to file the same bug reports over and over.)
Chonky water trial
I really hope it will have polish because we are already testing the new Season and entering the wind tunnel still splits hands (and servers) towards the previous seasonal area 
I'm stuck on the first quest, I don't know what I'm looking for or where to find it and being underwater is so vast and alot of places I almost lost light in (some places I did)
Before the boat for Flight, the manta dragged a concrete slab
look for a pointy tower in the water
There were many, is it the one closest to the reef area?
I went in but couldn't do anything at all
if you honk there should be a little blue star where you need to go (like a spirit)
No blue star at all.
I did activate the quest, but yeah, it's like nothing works for me.
Do I have to go through ||Eden|| first? Because I'm new and didn't do that yet
Anyone upset with the new boat? I really liked the first version plus it made sense for it to have a steering wheel and the “mini house” on the boat. I dont get why they changed it
I got reset in the game (app reset) and now showing that the season has arrived and such.
Maybe that was the problem and the game didn't process me as able to go there, yet???
I agree, I think the first version was a lot more fun and you could actually explore it. The new one is just kind of boring.
Figured it out. Was a small issue on my part, had to reset the app for things to set in out of 'tutorial mode' ig
Manta dragging the whole dock lmao
the placeholder boat (not the dock) that the Flight manta used to drag was a lot bigger and had different art style from the usual sky, much like the old Abyss ship, I liked those
Does anyone know how to get to a new location? Because the boat that is supposed to transport is not on the shore! What to do?
Didnt it get moved out of shipwreck and into the wasteland social area? Or are you talking about something else...?
Oh, thanks. I was already scared
I took a short ride on mega krill before i was blown away by the wind
Its like it has the same ride mechanics as mantas, atleast the mega krill doesnt steal your skykid like the manta in sanctuary 
Please check updates
new boat my detested
where did the boats go
nvm
am i the only one that think that the forcefield should be somewhere, just not everywhere? like it should either be something i can unlock if i have something or by pulling a lever(or some other constructs)?
because the forcefield seems like it should be here in worldbuilding sense
What do you mean by force field?
She asked two hours later, when the conversation had died. 
im guessing they mean the big one in the deep area? since the first quest one was removed
I think from the sheer amount of confusion over the force fields in the first quest, and the fact that it is the first quest with the new mechanic and drowning possibility, it's good that it's a grill instead. Forcefields in sky means there is a way to burn through. A grill with no obvious split like a door is just a window that I won't bother to find a way through.
I thought the colours of the force field made it pretty clear that we couldn't open them, at least in our current state: barriers we can open are orange in colour, and the ones seen in Crystal Bay were all blue. Where the potential confusion arose for me is that most force fields seen in Sky have some kind of condition that eventually allows you to either burn through them or remove them -- but in this case, we were meant to find a way around them to deactivate them from the inside (i.e. I was half-thinking of looking for some kind of switch in the first quest before I noticed a convenient crack that I could just swim through).
Actually the forcefield in the first quest and the one in front of, say, office are still different in color
I agree with it being changed to a grill
They are a bit of a different shade, yeah (though I'm not sure if it's the ocean tint affecting the blue) -- but it clearly wasn't orange, which is why I was immediately clear on it not being openable with a candle (which we can't take out underwater to begin with)
That’s true but that’s also part of the problem since I expected there to be another mechanic to get through it
Like the 4 player door in vault
I have to confess I didn’t understand that these barriers were supposed to be “force fields”. I just though they were similar to constellation barriers, but had a different colour under water.
Oh, I call constellation barriers "force fields" as well, they just have that sort of "energy wall" look that makes me think of that wording
How long will the last task of the new season open?
In January 
the tutorial called them spirit gates, so the term kinda stuck to me
I remember when they were introduced
How do you get to the seasonal area I am so confused
- read #beta-announcements patch notes or
-scroll up to find answer
So how will we get the seasonal gift if it costs two seasonal hearts and it charged 3 hearts for the other ones before it 🥲
you can't, unfortunately
because it's beta, tgc doesn't compensate for things like that
this is beta, things like that happen 
Yeah oof
it happened in assembly too, i believe
you can still buy the mask as a spell though, so theres still an option for you to test it
No coesmetics polish 
I think the priority rn is that the season works properly--
Maybe the cosmetics won't change, maybe they will, we just gotta WAFO
whats the season rn
In beta? Season of Abyss
oh what does it feature
Bugs
A lot, please read though #beta-announcements
The area appears to be called Treasure reef now as opposed to Crystal bay
Yep
there's a second wl! check the lighthouse
ooh ouch ow i heard someone get krilled somwhere
THEY TOOK MY SUGGESTION? 👀 well.. probably other people suggested it too
wait, it might just be moved
i alreayd have it for some reason
or they swapped them? ill have to go check
Name of seasonal area changed to treasure reef?(I only looked at screenshots for now)
New name seems more fitting to me
If only it were more like an actual reef
Diving is definitely easier now, since there's more places to get oxygen (the flowers)
I reached the depth of the area where the two krills are patrolling
The swimming got soo much better wow
marking the bubble spots with the underwater light blooms is nice too, you get to use your boosts more
Did they make the boat even smaller??
sky kids dont lift, imagine carrying a huge boat 
The underwater light blooms are so lovely! They’ve saved me a few times already 
Is the boat supposed to be available in the 🛒?
I guess so, since its IAP
but also not sure if some people cant access it, I got it as a bug with other cosmetics a few days ago
I can’t see it so I am not sure if 2nd run of the event already began or not. I did not see the boat in round 1.
Hmmm quest 4 did not reset for me with the update. Anyone else?
you might wanna check what Ktjn just said in #beta-discussion
I miss the old coral reef
The only thing that I’m don’t liking is the dark capes the rest amazing
I don’t too much imo. I think if like they made the sponges and sea stars look like light creatures itd be better…?
Cus both of those things are animals as i understand it and i think itd be neat
If they do that and implement them back in though alongside the light blooms thoo
🍽️
Will miss the starfishes
Let me. Sketch smth up
I didn't care so much for the pink coral additions but the swaying seaweed(?) was nice. I think it'd look great with these new light plants.
the coral/seaweed/stars were REALLY nice they just needed some more texture and to be less bright
they looked kinda plasticy ig. too smooth
but they were veyr lively
Posted one of my doodles on it thoughts?
In which channel?
I'd say they added a lot of diversity? it looked more varied so I definitely noticed the contrast in this current build
Nice , a bit less bright, as it's under water would be better .
I think different colors of satrfishes and trees would be good for the map
Yeah i kinda just wanted to get the concept across skjdjfkc
whn i say they looked too plasticy i meant they were a little too smooth and untextured. other than that i LOVED them
Ohh i see
id love to have botht he little lieafy things and the other decorations they took out
Ohh fair
I like the idea but i honestly would rather have diff coloring for the sponges+stars. The kelp might be fine though…?
Is it just me or does anyone else feel like people are going to get "married" by the grat guide
like the set up now--
Like I'm not saying people should but I'm sensing the jokes now
What if we 😩 got megaultradivorced next to gratitude guide
oh, we have 2 winged lights now in the Crystal Bay Treasure Reefs
What 🤔 if ❓we 😩 got 🌝megaultradivorced 🏃♀️next to 👯♀️ gratitude
guide 
Is it possible the get the new wl?
Wait what’s the fourth quest update? Mine still shows it as completed ;-;
Anyone.. ?
I am curious too . Cause mine is the same
And I still don’t see the days of love stuff in the shop either
sigh
crystal bay/treasure reef will be another yeti slope/hermit valley situation
the new plants look so much better now, the starfish etc looked super weird 
I can see that happening too...
did they,.. really remove bubble spots? 
nvm the bubbles just glitched out
I love the addition of fog in the area now
Waitttt guys, you can now turbo underwater using the flight icon
Crystal reef / treasure bay 
Ohhh and also flick = faster swimming movement
I already keep flying to the old entrance location for the season XD 
Quick question for folks--is the boat to the seasonal area yellow or red for anyone? 
no banana or tomato boat for me at least
🍌🍅
I loved yellow boat, it had such a spiritual transformation lore feel 
What about a strawberry boat? No strawberry boat either?
not even a strawberry boat 
Hopefully you're able to get your daily serving of fruit somewhere else then 😔
No bright boat for me, just bright flashes of light everywhere.
Anyone else who still did not dare to spend their season hearts in case the ultimates change? 😂
no Strawberry Boat on my end
i really like the darkness in the abyss now 
I'm pleased by how overcast it is. 😊
also the light plants (and the boost button)is a god send, that's what i said about strategic oxygen spots
Boost button?
boost in water, press the flap button
jump gives small boost, flap makes you a torpedo
Is the new build not released for android yet? Maybe that’s why the quest is still completed
not sure what they mean on everyone getting the update cause android already has it
They told they will need to reset 4th quest manually when the respective engineer will be available. They will announce when it's done.
I wanted to suggest redesigning the oxygen mask. Maybe instead of having those “breathing horns” (or whatever they’re called) be designed like a regulator? (Scuba divers use this to breathe under water) Like two round air filters on each side with oxygen hoses. Also, it would be nice to design a mechanic to have your avatar ascend quicker to the surface when running low on oxygen. Much like a BCD (Buoyancy Control Device).
You should put into #beta-feedback if you haven't alr :]
Personally I like the idea of being able to ascend quicker but I feel something resembling a gas mask might be triggering for some folks.
Ah yes I see, I just realized what I wanted to say but I couldn’t find the right word for it. I meant it would act as if the breathing apparatus was designed as a “regulator”. It’s a device that scuba divers use to breathe under water for long periods of time. Normally, the average diver can be under water (30-40ft) for at least 3-4 hours. The amount of PSI (pounds per square inch) can be around 200-300lbs. Sometimes even more, up to 2000PSI.
I know this because I in fact am a semi-certified Scuba Diver 
Ah, okay. Yeah, I'm not sure where they got the design for the mask from. But there are some ideas 🤭 I wonder if they were trying to come up with something obvious enough but not too life-like? Either way, we really need to be able to ascend quicker. Maybe they can make the plants do double duty and act as an ascension aid if we happen to get close to them on the way up...though it might be too cumbersome when you're fleeing for your life
Well we just hold down the button and up we go
Like maybe a gameplay tip like “To ascend quicker, hold down the button” or something of the sort. Or “to get more oxygen tap your screen 3 times”
Or, better yet, a toggle option for us to choose the amount of desired air we need just in case some people decide to go candle running underwater lol 😂
Sorry if this is off topic-
But after the update, when I swim into the tower as soon as I go below the level where the hole is half covered by a fallen pillar, everything except my skykid goes black, and when I deep call nothing shows up. Anyone else experiancing the same?
Also the wl ontop of the tower only has the outline, yet I havent collected it. And the 4th quest is not available for replay
I got very lucky, dived for awhile and came back up just as I was loosing oxygen so my wing broke off but it didn't despawn since I caught it quick enough 
Progress on the shells giving you wax? Nothing gets added to your candle meter still, but the candle meter does appear now
the shells give you light and air, idk if it is intentional that they shouldn't give wax
reporr it anyway
So how do we get the days of love boat?
#beta-discussion message
log in and check your inbox
Check your inbox
Oh wow thank youu!!
I think they're supposed to give wax, but they still don't just yet
It's all of the blue light, too, not just the light from the shells
I feel like the light bug gotten worse. I tried to dive down to where krill is and colors flashing before it lights out and pitch black 
It's certainly worse for me. I had so many problems, every build. Please report all of these problems. Are you on Android?
Yes, I'm on android
Me too. It's so bad I can't even go very far down the tower before it's all just blinding color.
I'll bug report it once I have time. Hopefully the light bug ease up next few builds
I feel so bad about the boat
About all the boat
Good news for me is now I can save money in live, all the changes so far killed my desire to spend money for them
That's a big, please report it in #beta-bugs-ios or #beta-bugs-android
a quick question, is it not available to get the cape of fortune that is located in the office? 
Question, is the turtle gone? 
Ik it's a bug, I was asking if any had the same issues is all
You can look through the bug reports to see what others posted, maybe you'll see someone else having the same issue
Guys can someone re-do the 4th quest?
I personally can’t :o0
I think were waiting on the update to say we can?
:0
O my mine isnt showing it
Oh wait there was a message
That was an accident, it’s not ready yet
~Maybe they delete it~ ohh ok ok thanks!
Yes it was deleted
Now it suppose to be available

Ok I was wondering when will the next invite wave be? Or is this on a “as needed” basis?
It's on an as-needed basis, and considering we had an invite wave about a month ago, I say we wont have another for a few months

Me too 
Now I’m scared to swim with that black krill out there
But so far it’s my favorite quest! Great Job TGC and I know this should be on feedback but I just wanted to share my fears
This is ridiculous. I cannot complete the quest because there are so many bugs everything flashes or goes completely black.
OMG. I just released the mother of all krills 🥲😢 Welp..
they what now
so basically there is a giant underwater cave that is shut to keep the leviathan in, but your skykid takes out the power diamond keeping the giant gate shut and the leviathan escapes the cave and goes into the depths
you can actually see the leviathan diving into the hole between the two structures
that's the price you have to pay for being in beta, you play early builds so you can report these bugs to the devs
imagine how much angrier you'd be if this made it to live 
Yes. I know. I've been a beta tester since Prophecy.
I think this spirits are full of greediness. They don't know what their doing. They're fall has something to do about it. Tss tss.
OMG IT'S TERRIFYING
I was like “Ok I’m dead” When I shut down and took the Diamond well the map turned red
Is anyone else having trouble finding any entrances to the room w the diamond 🌞
The tower entrance, mural tunnel entrance, entrance above next to the tower and the deep sea “entrance” are all blocked off
Every entrance has been closed off. Like what...
There is probably A way but i’m just so horribly lost 
I assume theres a way to open them but like. 🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞
there is a diamond you need to snatch above the deep sea entrance, and it will open
X2, im so confused about that quest :/
This is as hard as my algebra 2 homework 
have u tried honking? i forgor but when i did honk i was able to find it
Ohh. I know where the thing to complete it is and i did use honk to locate it
I just can’t. Find a way in 🧍
oh well the first diamond i grabbed it and then the door underneath it opened
Ihh
Ohh can you. Give me a vague idea of where to look. I just don’t even know where to begin💀
WAIT
There are now 2 WL 
OHHHH 💀IM SORRY SKDJDJFJDJ 🤸
Uh. Yeah no still no luck
God this is
what part are you stuck on?
I just can’t get in 
I cannot find any diamond that i could open the doors with either
Honking doesn’t seem to help unless im misinterpreting the whole thing
there's a really deep area between most of the buildings, if you honk down there you should be able to find the first diamond
when you honk a blue marker will show on your screen that shows where it is
Is it embedded in that huge door somewhere?
Oooh, I found out where it is. You literally need to swim down, follow the light seaweed(?) stuck at the building down below
Ohhh
are you sure you are at the correct door? the correct door is in the ravine
This is beyond me i’m gonna take a break and go do some other stuff
Sadly, after I released the megalodon, light bug strikes and I cant see anything except my skid 
I feel pretty stressed w it+algebra stuff so
I think yeah ill take a break to clear my cache so to speak
🌚
don't worry you can always try later 👍
wheres the season boat again
In Wasteland's social space
the beginning of gw?
Anyone know how to finish the 4th quest
Yes, the area with the closet
Is there a way to see the leviathan again after completing the quest? I remember before it circled around and you could see it, but no sign of it so far 
hey, how to do the 4rth quest? the roof thing isn't opening, did it change that much or is this a bug?
Find a way
@crisp basin I had to wait for the cooldown to post it 
mmmmm beeg fissh
BEEG FEEEESH
Just got an idea when the boat was going underwater while taking pics 
A submarine as ultimate would be epic for this season
Allows you to take you and your friend dive deep in sea
Does the leviathan have any sounds?
How many wings in Treasure Reef?
*crystal bay, and 2 as of now 
Excuse me, What's name the new seasonal map? I know it as a Treasure Reef in new update..
@ornate lake if you swim down far enough outside the tower you can get into the Leviathans room 
At least i could before the quest update, havent had a chance to try yet now
yesyesyesyesyeysyesy
Its called Crystal Bay, im unsure who would have told you otherwise, but in beta currently it is called Crystal Bay 
Ah! i havent checked since the update you may be right-
So is there a treasure there then? 🤔
The spirits were tresure hunters, and we're told they found tresure and we must find what they did, so my best guess is yes
i prefer Crystal Bay yes
I found a way to not lose WL while underwatet!
The boat look so small now, i can't play pirates no more with my friends 
OOH OOH IK THIS ONE MEEE MEEE
When you are about to lose a wl, make sure you are directly under a ceiling or under a prop like the tent. The wl that jumps off comes back to you. The wl float up, but any obstacle will stop it and it'll come back
What's yours?
:0
Oooo clever
I was gonna be silly and just say 'dont drown
' 
Pff 🤣
I have my own portable oxygen
My friend
I just drown… want to explore… rip
Except Holla but they were up to their own thing
Make some plans together
Earlier we were trying to investigate the big scary horrendous krill thingy
:0
LEVIATHAN MY BOYY
I think everyone and their dog is on to that thing
I wonder if it makes rounds like the previous version
I think it’s gone now after I did the quest :(
Oh no
The quest was confusing since the map changed a bit
It took me 10 minutes of screaming where to go with my friends 
I think I spent an hour wandering around 
Yeah… it was kinda annoying trying to figure out where to start
I followed a rando who appeared to be smarter than me
The past quest was you waltzing down the tower
Take the thingy and done, now it's a maze
Yeah
I just kept honking and trying to head toward the light
Imma have to take my friend who's afraid of diving through the quest again
Ah I did the same, but it was wrong lol
I’m still not a fan of swimming… or drowning
I lost 6 wl lol
My friend were afraid too, she's asked me to go together
I love this season so much, finally playing instrument under the water and died from drowning 
Yeah… I’m under 150 again
It was fun tho
I found a bubble patch way down. But I lost 2 lights trying to surface…lol
Wow playing underwater... Pick a spot where you don't lose light
Alright wish me luck
I'm about to search this big Leviathan after the quest alone
@urban coral
Same
Gl yall!!
I'm sure he has to be in the map somewhere, from experiance ik the krill, whales and manta always are
Yeah… I try to do that too but after a while I just said what the hell and lost the light
Ahaha you just get annoyed and give up on saving those wl
i had 20wl at the beginning of the season now im at 10
I just want to explore unencumbered… it’s why this season doesn’t do it for me. I’m always in fear of drowning
i like the challenge. i find it more engaging, personally
During the quests I don’t mind the challenge, but when I’m just looking around :/
yea i think they should buff the mask more maybe
The mask is so ugly (in my opinion) it really should make you super scuba man or something.
Looks like the Star Wars sand people mask
i think part of what makes it look a little weird for me is that the eyes seem a little more wide-set than other masks
I think its just a matter of palette change
The respirator could be darker and have lots of green highlights like in the gems
Also maybe replace the jiggly things with more power diamonds cus they look super weird
I do. Not know. It looks nicely utilitarian
^^^
Looks like the nausicaa masks to me n I love it
The jiggly things had always threw me off
Like, I feel that they shouldn't jiggle and be solid-
Maybe their are full of organic air purification material
tbh i think it would look kinda cool if they removed the things sticking out, but i guess it wouldn't really look like a respirator tho. i dont actually dislike the design but not too much goes with it, so i would probably only wear it for when i go to the seasonal area
This could be important wear for running after little brothers when they bug you too much lol
lol
i feel like the respirator jiggling is a bug somehow
like they accidenatlly enabled beard physics on it
Alas, I could not find the big boy either 💔
But I only lost one star thanks to ur trick
I just gave up and lost like 20 total haha. But glad the trick helped!
jesus christ was that a mama krill??
Is there trouble going on after the 4th quest?
Oh noooo that big boi has ||red eyes||

changed from gentle boi to hellspawn
now that its smaller elder manta should be around its size
I think it's as big as the Eden whale
4th quest feels like a completely new thing and it. is. supreme.
That big revamp of the building is just 👍
there's more recover spots outside/inside the tower, I don't even need a mask
EDEN WHALE????
OOOOH that one yea
Couldn't find the big krill boi after going super deep and all around the outside. I hope it comes back
That leviathan better be krills' predator 
Or unless it's already in the entrance mural which contradicts what I want for the leviathan lmao
it probably comes back in the 5th quest..... with malicious intent

Can't wait for lore 😌
There's two wls? I've only seen one which is the top of the tower :||
Welcome to the beta channels! If you want a more active chat, please head to #general-sky-discussion or #cozy-sky-discussion 
Oh the deepest part with bubble bunches is blocked right now?
no bonking sound but I can't go further downwards
||The leviathan coming out of the door when we opened it literally gave me goosebumps goodness||
well just finished the 4th quest again and all i can say is ||that leviathan scared the honk out of me but I really hope it shows up in the final quest
||
You can get around the barrier, just swim to the side and you'll find the way through
tysm 
(also swim down a nice little corridor bit only to see a red light at the end appear and an enraged krill sound is terrifying..very fast backpedaling occurred
(the chibi who triggered it was fine at least but my heart was not))
||I am in fear for people wanting to hug or kiss that leviathan||
wait.. how do you get inside of the tower for 4th quest? entrance on the top is closed now and on the bottom (in the water) there’s just a wall
go down into the water, on the right side of the wall theres an entrance with a glowing plant to recharge your air in, it's not the easiest to spot but it is there 
okay! i’ll try it now, thank you
How many wing in New Area?
||so far I saw two||
still can’t find it.. can you please send a video of where is it?
I love that we can actually go in the buildings and explore 
Sorry to bother.
Is it true the boat where the quests take place, the cool looking fishing boat, has been changed to just be the normal boat that is scaled up and the props (like the map table and whatnot) plopped on top of it?
Where did the giant krill go after the quest? Is it in a oob?
I cant wait to play the new season in my live account. The swimming is cool and all that but when it comes live, i will dawn the greatfull shell collector outfit and procceed to greatfully collection shells underwater.😊❤
They changed the name to Treasure Reef… 😮
Really?
Can anyone that knows about the beta leave feedback, or only players that have access to the beta?
Because the ship going from cool and unique, to something that looked like it was slapped together last minute is so silly.
It is like evolving, but backwards!
You're free to leave feedback on beta content if you're not a beta player
Thanks and much appreciated.
||what about a boop on the snoot||
||i would like to boop the snoot||
More leviathan kith for us 
||I don't think your wl would enjoy the boop on the snoot||
||I will sacrifice all my winged light to boop the snoot||
||shhhhh they'll love it||
|| a sacrifice that's worth it in the end ||
Does the giant krill eat other krill 👀
Ok y’all are scaring me
what the hell is going on here
Just done with the new Season Quest 4 .... its more exciting compared to the previous one and good thing you added the Jelly Plants .... this Quest 4 version should go to live .... Its fun finding where the entrance is 😅😅😅 #beta-feedback
Im still manifesting an extra 60 seconds of oxygen when using the Ultimate Gift Mask .... Hmmm or 30 seconds perharps 🤗🤗
Omg that quest was so good >< and scary, it was really had to find though the places at first, but finding them finally felt rewarding and the reveal at the end 😱😱
I was still expecting something to happen >< when we turned in the quest.. but nothing did still
…. Disasters pending guys, these guys are all celebrating and Jurassic park bout to happen here
Definitely the most intriguing season for me
Sameeeee 😱😱😱😱😱
I am a bit sad that they changed the boat ;-;
Which one? The season one or love boat?
The season one ;-;
The double decker ship 🚢
I feel kind of bad now when I realize, in time, this area would be abandoned too :( I wish we get updates to seasonal areas... I’m totally down for a season in an already existing seasonal area :(
well when the shells get fixed it will be a viable candle running spot
How do you all find swimming straight up through the tower floor holes now?
toggle button
What happens when you toggle to rise and get stuck against a fallen pillar or ceiling? Do you find easy enough to get out of that position?
You have to position your skykid just right i don't switch mode i just angle my camera towards the hole and swim
toggle off and adjust
is leviathan still passive? yk after tgc adding these red eyes it just became creepier
thanks!
It can't eat you... yet
Just me then
my camera forces zoom in and find it really hard to direct to swim out of being stuck when stuck in a ceiling even after toggling modes
Beta is crashing everytime I press the constellation button
Oh the camera zooms onto your skykid? That was fixed for be two builds ago
i hope the leviathan doesn't do anything to the spirits on the final quest....
Spirits are already dead all damaged it could do is to us 
What do you think the fifth quest is if we have just released the kraken leviathan?
I hope we see it again 😩
the leviathan thanks us with a big big hug because it was lonely being trapped and we freed it
Also sky engineers must be of god tier because they built the huge structure underwater and trapped the krills 
They look like that built the final level boss for sure
Btw who ate the turtle 
they built cities in the sky and borderline space(eden) , giant fortresses n temples, they can afford to make a lot of gigantic vanity projects (citadel the statues), giant ships and the diamond technology itself (probably the cause of all this progress) is pretty impressive by itself
Tbh I kinda find the swimming controls very finicky too 😂. Can’t get used to the camera directed controls wheeze
is it safe to say tha the turtle in the same realm as
now?
boat dead.I cant find it
a couple builds ago it moved to wasteland's social space
Read the past few #beta-announcements thoroughly 
Yeah the mission is repayable but I already started the mission....
The backend update finished yeah?
they put a hat on big tower?
dive deeper 
the tower has its top hatch closed partially to trap a wing light
Checked deeper, they really changed the mission a lot eh?
And the tower
AND THE MASSIVE DARK THING IS IN HERE NOW OH GOD
Still looking around the environment I see those village of dreams ski lift pylons
I really wanna update and see but using a hotspot isnt the best since it takes hours 
Do you have a seesaw or a swing? My shop doesn't have it.
Some peoples shops are bugged i think
There is feedback from players about the boat. I just got it today.
Have you checked in the office? Swing and seesaw should be available only there? Correct me if I'm wrong
Not in the office either.
Then it must be a bug, I recommend reporting it :]
#report-a-live-bug to report bugs (you can report beta bugs you just need to choose beta when skybot dms you)
thank you
I don’t want to finish quest 4 
The Leviathan model has no collision, so I went inside and saw there were a lot of teeth/tongue, but the screenshot I took wasn’t clear
i still have no idea how to get into the cave without opening the gate
The momma krill reminds me of morray eel for some reason 
You can actually find the leviathan?
I glitch from the surface
I saw that it entered the gate but there's literally no where it could go
You freed it, so I’m not sure where it went to. Safe to assume its good as gone
Oh so we freed it
there is a hole in the ravine, in the freeing cutscene it curves into the hole
I noticed that too, but going there it was nowhere to be seen (oops ping)
I am not sure if that thing is huggable or boopable or kissable y’all scare me
Also they added an invisible wall on the bottom but didn't remove the patch of bubbles
It’s a friend
its gone for now
well,.. new version of the 4th quest is definitely less scary, which is kind of sad 
well the previous 4th quest... most people didn't even notice the leviathan looming
i was hoping there would be more done with the leviathan, fingers crossed for next quests
thanksssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
croissant .... it reminds me of tht
Does it bother anyone that the mask jiggles when you run around
The breathing apparatus mask? It bothers me too. It doesn't need to jiggle. Not everything needs to jiggle.
i didnt get into beta, it was full when i found the invite but i'm looking forward new season and a possible undyne cosplay for me!
(aaaa keyboard ded)
I want to dive in Santuary island but the water isn’t deep enough 
Putting into feedback later, but is the entrance/routing to the 4th quest vastly different to before? the two routes i used to go in are both blocked off
Yes
It's completely revamped
Best tip is to forget what you knew about the 4th quest before it got changed and just follow the star when you honk 
me: No, no way the entrance could be right ther- IT IS THERE 
is the golden eel supposed to drop oxygen? or are those blue particles just decorative? because it doesn't help with oxygen. just trying to understand if it's a bug or a feature
That's it am deleting beta can't handle no phone 😭😭
When in doubt file a bug report. I think it should be dropping oxygen bubbles
Man... this is literally me 🤣
what do u guys think of new name? Crystal Bay became Treasure Reef
I personally like crystal bay better 🤔
if we could play hide and seek underwater that would be cool, sadly i cant do that while underwater, also i cant play instrument there 
gonna feedback this
Crystal Bay sounds better imo
"Treasure Reef" as a name sounds a bit weird to me when the season isn't really pirate-themed, but I'm not entirely sure how I feel about "Crystal Bay" either when there're hints that the water level wasn't as high as it is now at one point (e.g. stairs deep under the water near the giant doors)
Crystal Reef 
Did the world of sky experience global warming
I'd say those are not hints but very obvious signs that water levels used to be much lower
But the murals in the area indicate that there were deep sea creatures in the area back when the murals were made as well, and there's also the question of what that room behind the giant doors were for if it wasn't a giant fish tank to begin with...so then there's another question of whether parts of the area are newer than the others, if there's an obvious mismatch between the designs and purpose of architecture that's closely put together
Still, I'm just kind of like "this area wasn't always underwater, so wouldn't it have had another name besides Crystal Bay or Treasure Reef before it got the Atlantis treatment?"
I agree with you, it looks like a cataclysmic event of sorts flooded this area
The spirits exploring the area are not the ppl who built it. So I think those ruins are much more ancient than our treasure hunters
...hmm, a scenario I didn't think of earlier: if they actually had the technology to flood or drain the area at will. That'd explain why they might still have a need for stairs in areas that are underwater, if they could've drained it down
That's absolutely a given, yeah. The lore of the season feels like it's much more about the area than the spirits themselves, who just look like they're here to salvage valuables
imo i like Crystal Bay much better
from what I understand it wasn't always flooded, and it seems like it was a mountain range before hand, or something similar. I think "Bay" makes more sense than "Reef"
Sky Nuclear site #1 would be appropriate name then 😁
From what they have been experimenting here... And in the process seem to have crested/attracted a mammoth worm
Or the area was repurposed after it got flooded. As I understand the Sky ancestors migrated from another realm to what Sky kingdom is today
Why is there nothing in my candle shop?
btw kudos for the reimagined 4th quest, I really enjoyed it, even with my fear of deep water
This... I screamed in excitement when I did the quest. Especially when the animation happened. So dramatic
Suspenseful enough to keep you on the edge of your seat, but not scary to the point that one would abandon the quest (like I did in the previous iteration).
everything in Beta is free! so there's no candle packs in our shops, but if you're talking about IAP maybe you bought them already? 
There was a bug that makes some players to get all IAPs without buying it. Check your wardrobe, is it already there? Also, check your in-game inbox
that reminds me, i missed the infinite AP bug
Thank!
Is the color bug a known issue or does it only affect some devices? It's almost impossible for me to complete the 4th quest bcs everything around me keeps changing color and at one point got black and I couldnt see anything, but just hear krills lurking around me 😢
not listed in known issues so... i guess u should report it
PLEASE report it. I have this problem and it has gotten worse each build. I cannot finish the 4th quest myself. I'm really worried that this will not be resolved if enough players don't report it. Everyone who is experiencing this, please take the few mins and file a bug report.
Why boat for teleport to new season area is disappearing? 
The boat was moved a number of builds ago. Please check wasteland social area to the right and remember to read #beta-announcements patch notes when downloading a new build. It was mentioned there.
So 4th quest confirms that spirits released the dark dragons into golden wasteland through ignorance and greed? Cant wait to see papa krill destroy everything

I got the impression they were studying them in the seasonal area: the room where you release the krill and the big leviathan-eel looks like an observatory to me. If that relates to how they started appearing in Golden Wasteland, feels more like "science gone wrong" or a containment breach, because the quests so far don't really make it seem like the krill had to do with the resources we were collecting (if anything, the resources were parts of technology to keep them contained).
Interesting twist if we’re actually seeing the ancestors who were responsible for destroying the world of Sky.
I thought the story was that...the scavengers arrive to this flooded city of an older civilisation. They start looking for resources and (unintionally) release the remains of ancestor's science projects that already destroyed GW from the first time round ....at least that's the story I got from all the cutscenes and murals so far
That's what I'm getting too. The scavengers are looking for power diamonds (way later in the future when this supply is now limited) because they cost a fortune possibly? Or maybe it'll help power their ship.
I assume the same. The first ancestors definitely did experiment. But the seasonal spirits seem to be alive at a period when the water had already consumed most of the structures and put them underwater...
But, in an accident, while getting the diamonds, they released the leviathan and krills into the bay. This may have been what killed them in the end 
Yeah I've been reporting it for the past 3-4 builds. Seems the bug persists in dark areas across all maps, at least for me. I was just wondering why it wasn't in known issues or if I missed any updates hehe
No y’all it’s our skid who unleashed the ||leviathan||! The other spirits couldn’t find any haha
They need to address it. It is effecting a good number of players it seems, on a number of different Android devices.
||That’s true, it isn’t spirit-y at all so it’s definitely real and alive right now, and not a memory
||
That darkness and lighting bug is really aggravating. I can't get to the third diamond if I can't find the hole in the ceiling 😕
lore chat is gonna love this season
Have you made a bug report?
It's like the Nintendo trailer, a huge meal 
I'm redoing the quest so I can get a video for the bug report
But it's not fun on my nerves being in pitch black and hearing 1) krill noises 2) someone's wings cracking 3) krill attack noises
Understood. There's enough of an element of horror/dread without bugs making it worse.
Hasn't the technicolour everything is disco lighting bug been reported forever now? I seem to remember seeing screenshots of it from previous seasons
The lighting bug is only happening with the new stuff added 
It's been around but I've never had it before and I'm not entirely sure I've seen it act this problematic in the past. This time, I have it every single build and it's actually worse now (181781), with flickering structures, miscolored items and structures. Not just the bright colors and blackness.
Someone is gong to have an epileptic fit and hurt themself
Someone posted in #beta-screenshots-videos that the old leviathan is still behind that large area where the raindeer 🦌 leviathan is roaming. And in the image the old one looks larger then the current one...
Mama leviathan and offspring?
Quest 5 : cutscene continues... Behind the raindeer leviathan comes the big momma... Breaking and smashing stuff 👀
the long eel creature and leviathan have collision on... previously all creatures don't, only a wind wall at most
i wonder if other creatures can have collision too... or preventing people from riding them is the reason why they don't have collision in the first place
Man I wish I had gotten the chance to get up close and personal to big mama krill before completing the quest, it would have been so cool to swim in the same space as it
they either shrunk the leviathan to fit it in the ravine or the bigger leviathan will make another appearance elsewhere
I'm having trouble figuring out the 4th quest. What if some of the mantas we freed in the 3rd help us out and guide us? What do you guys think might help?
There were two because of the cutscene, the small one was swimming in the tank
And the bigger one was in the cutscene 
Well apparently the old one is still roaming outside... You need to oob out and take a friends help probably to visit that. But it won't be as detailed as 🦌
although one might think the smaller leviathan is the "final" leviathan with it having better textures and modelling, but one never knows
Tap on yourself and follow the star
it may be smaller but it looks more menacing tho
Maybe before they release the 5th quest they will improve the model for the bigger one and bring both of them back
I tried that but it said to go to the lighthouse so I went all the way down to the bottom of it (where we see the meg) and then through the corridor that has stairs and leads to a gate. The star was over there but the door was closed. I thought I needed to stay in the lighthouse though
Mural shows only one. So I assume old one is still there owing to season area Polishing round 3. Once they do next round of polishing it should not be there anymore
there is a diamond above the door you need to take to open the door
Is that what is triggering the "grab" at the top of the door? And is the diamond grey?
yeah
hoping we get more info on how the area got abandoned and damaged on the final quest
I have a theory somewhere in the screenshots channel
I want to know who scratched the lighthouse
if it was a leviathan (which i don't think so?) that must be one hell of a jump if it didn't want to beach itself.... well that is if it can't fly
I figured it might be able to, since krill can fly and also swim. Maybe big boy can fly free 
I'm sorry tgc, I can't test 4th quest as I like looking at megalodon /hj
Doesn't look like natural decay but it could be
I wish i hadn't done it, i'll leave it unfinished in live 
Sure, but I mean the events in sky do take place thousands of years in the future. Personally I think our skykid is reliving past memories and using that to fulfill a desire the spirits want. Because the spirits didn't live long enough to get it. Assembly spirits wanted to build a treehouse, so we built it for them. Dreams skater wanted to skate for everyone, so we watched over them learning. Once that goal is achieved, the spirits can rest peacefully, hence they ascend at the end.
So for abyss, the spirits are already dead from something||(presumably the leviathan)||, so they never got to finish collecting all the power diamonds.
The more I read into this, the darker sky actually gets
Well.. what do you expect from a game that literally having Ghost haunting all realms ?
You should look into some of the old concepts. It's a very dark game if you really look for it.
the new leviathan is more evenly shaped like an eel
the old bigger one is really chonky, has a shorter snout (no idea if it had teeth) and a mace like tail
I remember having this realisation while doing a relive task
look up images of "moray eels" -- the leviathan definitely has the same kind of head and chin shape going on if you ignore all the tendrils/spikes sticking out of its body
The old concepts for forest were pretty dark, hope abyss is the start of seasons being much darker from a narrative standpoint
I hope so! I love darker lore! And this season is exactly that. It is dripping with dark lore 
Has anybody been having an issue getting to the island?
head to wasteland’s social space and look around. the boat moved there several updates ago 
I wish we can replay cutscenes, 4th quest cutscene is beautiful….feels like a creepy sci-fi movie 🍿
Whomever came up with this season, was a genious. Finally we have a creepy season.
hopefully we’ll get more creepy seasons after Abyss
ooh i just entered treasure reef and got excited about the fog lol… 
I turn my back from beta for ONE season, and next thing i know we have A GIANT TERRIFYING MONSTER????
I finally figured out the 4th quest! I think what was so confusing was that the first diamond wasn't even inside the lighthouse, which was really confusing since we're prompted to go into it. I know there is the honk thing, but that led me to the first diamond but through the entire lighthouse till I was on the wrong side of the door. I think the first location might need to be changed
I did the 4th quest in the “wrong” order (by diving in the big hole and arriving almost immediately to the part where you see the leviathan 
I noticed this entrance while exploring yesterday and honestly thanks god bc I wouldn’t have been able to get in by the intended entrance!
how...how do you do the 4th quest now
Follow the blue diamond that shows up when you honk
I was confused myself but i think the key is to do that
Its not the same one as inside the chamber thing
I think it would be easier to do the quest if people had a set of fresh eyes so to speak
Because I personally think the difficulty is rooted in the expectations of the quest to play out similarly to the original 4th quest?
Maybe thats just me but
how to connect to beta test?
#beta-faq should give you a basic idea
Thank you:)
Double posting from the other beta chat channel (mods please don't ban me
), but: If anyone here plays on Android and has been having the weird color/discoloration issues, can you let me know what kind of Android device and OS you have? It's fine/helpful to ping in reply!
The info we have should be good for now. Thanks again everyone!
@shell fossil
I have a Samsung Galaxy S20+ 5G
(Model: SM-G986B/DS)
European Market Exynos processor
Android 11/ one UI version 3.1
Eep, I get a black screen where I can only see my skykid when I dive past the level of the krill tower where a pillar is covering the hole, and also when I get to close to the center of what used to be the jellyfish tank. Sometimes the lighting also goes weird
Samsung android
Galaxy s7
SM-G930F
@peak cedar Thank you! Do you know what version of Android you're using?
I shall go hunt that down in settings now
I believe its version 8.0.0?
@shell fossil
Samsung Galaxy S10+
Model number: SM-G975F/DS
Europe
Exynos processor
Android 11
One UI
Version 3.1
I do have this bug!
Device info: Huawei P20 lite, model ANE-LX1, Android 9
(is this info enough?)
Yep, perfect. Thank you @thorn wigeon!
Thanks again, everyone! This should be good for now 
How to complete the task with the guide? I don't understand what she wants from me in this lighthouse. Help
So I decided to swim into the doors that ||we opened in the 4th quest. The ones that let out krill and the leviathan||. It is completely closed off in there, so the creatures in there were trapped. It definitely seems like they were being studied or experimented with/on.
Where did the boat that leads to the seasonal island go? Lmao i cant find it
It's on the right when you enter the location
Y'all I found the second wl ahaha
Day 6 and the boats to the island are not showing up. I have only used them one time when I first entered the new season. Now, no boats and no new season.
the boat was moved several updates ago - to wasteland social space
You didn't look in the gw social area to the right?
make sure to read #beta-announcements when downloading a new build 
I was unaware of the move. Thanks
+1 on checking the #beta-announcements channel. We have strict character limits for the blurb that goes to TestFlight and Google, so those important details usually have to be saved for Discord 
Does anyone else find it strange that the boat to forgotten ark goes from water to clouds but the boat to treasure reef goes from clouds to water?
well, it could make sense in that clouds are made of water
but ye it's a little reversed hahs
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be 😌
That sounded a lot like Thanos 
Didn't that huge fish/krill thing that's deep underwater get a few updates to its texture/model? (apparently it got red eyes added to it)
Yep, it did
Didn't it also get some new sound files added to it? I looked at some recent beta footage and it made some sounds when going near it
petition to call that huge sea krill "the big guy"
The big cheese
I just calls him Kreg 
YES KREG THE BIG KRILL
Craig the red eyed chonky boi
hihi?? can i ask if i can ask people in beta to do an outfit req for me with one of the season of ||abyss|| capes? or is that not allowed 
per pins in #beta-screenshots-videos beta doesn't give outfit requests. you are free to scroll the channel and see some fits people have just from their pictures, or use the discord search feature to your advantage. full outfit recs are best suited to #seasons-events-chat when abyss comes to live 
you don't need to spoiler the word abyss because everyone here already knows what the season is called
alrighty thank youu
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Omg just managed to play the updated quest and oh how I actually enjoyed it! 
it was at first confusing because they changed some things in quest four, but at least for this quest i actually have to find it which i do like (maybe it’s because i was dumb enough to realize i opened the door for the first time)
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I actually liked how it forces you to explore around! The plants are a good indicator of where to swim I actually understood what to do pretty quickly
yes, i actually like this season now because it feels new
can recharging props recharge our cape energy underwater?
While glowing plants are a welcome element for exploring... I would have expected more vegetation everywhere just to keep the area lively... Not just a lonely glowy plant out of the blue at different places
Yes if you can manage to light them I guess
/j
oh okay thank you
I mean the ones what help you go through the 4th quest are kinda explainable - it's too deep and dark for too colourful life to be there. Maybe in the lovely reef we see when entering the waters for the first time - yeah, the variety will definitely be welcome in that part of the map 
Yeah need not be colorful. But could be luminous.. Cuz we see in the depths usually living things are luminous for various reasons. It is just that a random glowing plant makes sense gameplay wise.. But doesn't feel natural for the environment /map
Hmmmm... a little moss-like glowing patterns on the walls maybe? :D
Yeah.. A creeper here and there. And moss on the walls definitely... Those walls underwater seem pristine
if you somehow find a way to light up that recharging prop underwater then sure
but we can't pull out our candle underwater, so no way of lighting that up
oh ;-; sad
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The light bug makes the 4th quest not that shocking for me, since my screen was just completed black most of the time
It’s now more scary everyone ||is now nicknaming the leviathan||
Rudolf is a very cute name
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Ohh, me me. I got color visual bug ever since the season begun. And whenever I got to the center of the diamond at the back-then jellyfish aquarium, I got black screen.
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Sorry if this has been asked before. How many krills are available in the new area after the 4th quest revamp?
Did king krill just up and leave. where did he go
into the ocean to wreak havoc i suppose
so hes gone :w; i wanna find him
The updated 4th quest made me went from 7 Krill reflecting Spell down to 2
ive still only ever used the krill spells like 2-3 times purely to bait
Also… is that Bug Krill… LARRY?
4 in total 
2 in tower and 2 outside
He dived down ig. I started swimming down where he went out of curiosity but I got blocked by an invisible wall. But I see bubbles down below. I wonder if that area is where the last quest will be
Is one of them outside the Krill King
sadly but no, Big Boi is gone after 4th quest
im sad, i wanted to swim in front of his red eyes to see what he'd do
would he attac like krill?
Unless someone decides to OOB their way there…
People already have lol. Theres been vids of it
And I’ll now check YouTube
Is the structure crew quarters part of the ship supposed to be gone or is it a bug?
Yeah, only available before you finish 4th quest tho
@ King Krill
I meant here. In beta screenshots
yeet
the whole ship was replaced, its completely diff now
Ah thought so, I only checked it after the majority of the beta updates since I last played it on the first version just to compare
Gotta love the new 4th quest tho, glad they changed it
here u go a comparison by Euwu
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Also… Someone oob see that there’s 4 Candles on top of that King Krill…
I smell Bait around here…
when will old boat return from the war
I didn't even realize it was smaller now. Wow
I agree. The 4th quest was defo an improvement. It had so much more excitement rather than just swimming up and down a tower. Plus I love the addition of the plants. I had put in feedback before about more spots for oxygen, and the abundance of these plants really helps encourage exploration.
For anyone wondering: #beta-screenshots-videos message
Those plants are god like
candle hat candle hat
(jk i know theyre not actaully on him)
Well besides the current lighting bugs in the tower 
and the seizure wisp
anyone else found the seizure wisp?
Yes. It hurt my eyes. I had to actively avoid it 
Hmm if they not actually on him… then I think the King Krill is trying to bait us for Winged Lights… Is this another 3 Krills in a Trenchcoat Prank?
That was before the most recent update, though. It looks different and was moved with the update yesterday
i feel like a bit of this season was a bit lazy, like instead of bringing matrerials back to the ship it could be trying to restore the underwater mine or something. I also felt this way about the season of flight
I guess the Krill gave us mercy
I keep getting lucky that I don't get these types of issues on my android phone. Couldn't imagine seeing things like purple walls while swimming in the dark corridors 
like bro these seasons have so much potential and i feel like its just half butting it. hopefully in live it improves
we aren't even a month through testing, it has plenty of time to improve. nothing is perfect from the start
Didn't get those too
Seems like it's another Mali GPU issues
yeah, i'm just saying, i hope in live they fix it thou. i would love to see it more livened. like the past seasons
why do the skykids want to restart the submerged mines
idk it was just a thought
I mean either way, that would release Rudolph the 8 nosed krill. So it still would make sense with the most recent quest

what if there was something bigger then the leviathan 
honestly i find it hard to say the worm monster from the cave painting was the leviathan
it just looks too different
the only thing that's similar is its length and eye count
So far the bigger creatures we met was the big manta, and the whale, and probably the really big jellyfishes
its probably an early concept or an exaggeration to scare people away
Feel someone gonna make a Kid Song out of that… (and post it to Pinkfong… you know… the channel that post Baby Shark?)
where did those jellies go 
Other quests could alter slightly but hopefully the fifth quest might be a bit more bigger and better. When I played the last quest in flight in live, it was a little bit lacklustre and I'm not sure why.
Rudolph the 8 nosed krill
had some very shiny eyes
And if you ever saw them
Just know you're about to die
true , it did feel that way and i wonder what they look like in the live, cant wait to replay the quests
Maybe the jellyfishes will be there on the final game! Who knows but the leviathan is out there somewhere being serene
You can tell there's a bit of a build up of some big creature lurking, especially with this new 4th quest but I do wonder if it could be improved on. I mentioned before but I like the suspense of the lights of the towers going out when you take the gem from it especially in the first quest. Like you have a bad feeling about taking it.
Ikr it scared me the most when I checked the where the gem was realizing something deep was hidden and it was giving me goosebumps on what’s going on
What if when we take it, it makes a rumble from the depths. Or even a cutscene flashing to the big door with suspenseful music would do. Helping add the buildup to the 4th quest.
Yeah. I hope they change the ship back too, the spirits are supposed to be pirates but the only thing that really hints it right now is the fact they use a treasure map. Idk they don't have that wild personality shown actually in the quest cutscenes unlike their actual spirit memories
Maybe not pirates then scavengers but even so the old ship had much more personality to who they are
Well what if, everytime we grabbed those resources and brought them back, it fixed up the ship? Then we could get to see it come back to its look from before
Then again, we kinda did that with the ark, huh
That's what I originally thought but considering we're collecting gems or like treasure, I don't think it'll have the build up type of scenario that assembly had with the Treehouse or the lights had with ark
Yeah. Judging on the story, I assume they are nabbing these power crystals because they cost a lot. Possibly would make them a fortune.
Essentially, Abyss is an anti-hero story, then?
Debatable but since the spirits are pirates that only want the gems, in one way by quest 4, we're bringing harm to others by releasing these dark creatures back to the surface without knowing that's what taking the gems causes.
Personally, I feel this season is more focused on the seasonal area than the spirits and the questgiver
But some people might be a dark creature lover and say we're simply freeing them for the better
same with disabling the barriers in the manta tubes area technically releasing the mantas too 
i actually find the leviathan really cool
This season definitely explains about pirates stealing treasures (now that sounds like a movie about that lolz)
When does days of fortune start for live?
Not sure ig maybe in February
I mean, then we'd have to discuss ethics and have a philosophical debate over the humane side of keeping dark creatures locked up simply because they are threatening, rather than avoiding them and leaving them to their own devices

It's the celebration of the Chinese new year, so our best guess is around then
What is the water creuture at quest 4
Didn't expect it
Eden elder's pet
the king's pet eel
@plain talon
Oh sorry didn't see that
Hi I have this issue after getting to second fase of new fourth quest, everything is black and I can't see anything or resurface, and I end up being attacked by the giant krill. I use an android device
Samsung galaxy s8 +, android 9
Aww, you met Rudy! Hes a king krill/leviathan
Before the new 4th quest change, you could actually dive all the way down there to those bubbles so I feel like it’ll be related to the 5th quest somehow… very excited to see that when it happens
,, bro I forgot where to go for the 4th quest help💀
dive into the ravine and follow the marker
aw hell nah ||the krills was released||

I'm unable to update sky 😭
I think the abyss story has two parts, one part is the story of the spirits digging up the treasure, and the other part is the story about the development of the abyss in the past!
It's a breakthrough! It shows that the krill on the battlefield may have escaped from this area, which led to the decline of the wasteland.
According to the newly added mural, I speculate that they may have used the energy of the krill and the big guy on the sea floor to generate rainforest gems, but then the device went out of control and led to resistance.
The background of game is pretty bleak. I wouldn't say it's turning into a horror game by any means, not anymore than it already is or isn't. We're just getting more of the story. I mean the season is in Wasteland, fwiw.
In fact, the story of the sky is not always bright. I like the presentation of this season. I want to know more stories about the decline of this kingdom.
Although it’s a bit dangerous, I also hope that the big guy under the sea is dangerous
(Dangerous thoughts
I swam with it a few times and nothing bad happened, so... It's friendly, for now 🙃
I believe it will remain friendly in the future
I'm not sure I'd consider it "friendly" as opposed to "just doesn't care about something so small to it", but there's also a chance that they just haven't programmed in aggressive behaviour yet...but I still think we're a bit small for it to really pay much attention to
Let's hope it stays like that LOL
If this thing attacks, it will send us straight to ||eden|| 😶
I cannot pass this quest. Lost 50 WL and still no luck. Horror game is about right.
Who knows where the finale will take us. I have a feeling however it is more background color and awe factor than anything that we will actually engage with.
Megabeaned 
the megalodon has a fully modeled mouth with teeth, maybe that will make an appearance in the final quest 
Maybe it turns out the scavengers are actually dentists.
Plot twist: What if the leviathan eats krills 
I was under the impression that they feed off of krills
Like magically or eating them in the sense of the word?
It doesn’t in game, but when I first saw it in the aquarium with the krill, I thought it was going to eat them, in the sense of the word
Oh! Yes, me too. That would make sense if it’s a friendly creature. I was wondering if it’s the same creature that is in the underground forest.
Who knows how long they were trapped in there together though, so I wonder if that really indicates that the leviathan feeds on krill if it's been left alive for this long
They definitely aren't the same creature. But maybe it'll end up being grateful for us freeing it. I still think it's what ended up killing our scavenger friends
The new update for the 4th story is so hard to do. I actually rather the older way. You just had to dodge the krill and get all the way down to the switch. Now you can barely hold your breath and there's multiple switches.
Just realized. If Quest 4 is as terrifying as it looks then imagine what Quest 5 will be
They added more recharging points so it should be easier to hold your breath. I genuinely took a long time finishing the quest bc i was dumb and didn't even realize the switch was right next to the jellyfishes I was recharging at 🧍
^also when you press your boost button you actually boost underwater instead of fly up. Doing this quest should be easier but #beta-feedback does exist if you are unsatisfied 
Also what I’m happy about is that they maybe took my feedback on adding in more dark elements into Sky. Since there really isn’t anything dark and terrifying in Sky currently. Not even the shadow worms are that terrifying in my opinion
This season is surly dark as in lore, looks, and cosmetics! 
I think the current 4th quest is an improvement
It’s a little challenging but at least you can find the diamonds w your honk





The point is to use recharge spots wisely like the plants
Yeah, honking and looking for the plants is the idea. I thought it was quite easy and straightforward but I can understand it being confusing at first.
I was a little thrown off at first by the entrance not being the same as before (through the top of the tower), but then I also found it to be pretty straightforward. The main difficulty is trying to avoid the krills in the second half I think, the new plants do make it easier to stay recharged at least
And also keeping in mind that this quest will be released in live probably several weeks into the season, so people will have had time to get used to the diving mechanics and explore the area before that point
Yeah
Its understandable to be thrown off when the locations change but I don’t think that means its a badly designed quest
I got super confused about the big door at first. I remember it was just an open spot so it took me 10 mins just to figure out where the first switch is
Fair
had a dream about the season was released and there’re fish swimming around the forgotten ark
Weird question but shouldn't TGC have dropped a teaser for abyss by now? Seeing how they'd usually drop a teaser a few weeks before the season ends
Who knows.
Maybe?
maybe we getting a bigger season gap this time
This is my own theory, but when TGC releases a teaser depends on the mood of the players!
For example, during assembly, LP was teased from as early as the 2nd quest because players weren't quite into the quest
People is probably hooked rn with Flight + Feast and therefore they don't need to announce yet (maybe)
I hear you but could it also be bc of the new AP thing of removing preorders so there's really no incentive to promote it so early. But yeah you do have a point, nobody is necessarily screaming for a new season
You reckon?
is flight season still up
This is the beta channel, I think you want #seasons-events-chat. Flight has 8 days left on Live
The most likely assumption atm is because there will be a larger gap between seasons, the trailer might'n drop until the usual 3-4 weeks out

The reason I say there will be a bigger gap is due to testing of the final quest not happening until mid Jan, and it would be unlikely to have the season released in live when testing for the final quest hasn't even happened yet
That would make sense. Plus we are testing a completely new game mechanic. So that will take time to smooth out all the bumps too.
iirc we had to wait over 50 days for lp final quest too... forgot if it were live before then
It was. It was the same with flight iirc. We didn't get to see the final cutscene until it came out on live as well.
It's no longer available and was removed from everyone's closet, if I'm not mistaken 
Ahhh, which mask? Cause to begin with there were 2 - one of which was removed. So it depends on which one you're talking about.
If you are enquiring because you would like to see it, we are not able to provide that (see pins)
rebreather is still an UG but it got some changes
the other cracked mask that was an UG is gone completely
I assumed they were talking about the first ultimate mask because they asked if it was still available, which is not.
That's the rebreather, due to currency bugs, most players were able to buy out the season day 1, so most of us already have it.
That mask is still available to purchase, the one that was removed was the cracked one [similar to Anxious Angler’s mask]
Hi everybody, does anyone else's screen gets pitch black underwater? (new area only, inside buildings)
Due to this I can't redo the 4th quest 😕
Currently a bug

@uncut ginkgo 
@shell fossil I'm dealing with pitch black screen on the areas inside the buildings underwater.
My phone is a Huawei Mate 20 Lite, Android 10, Processor Hisilicon Kirin 710, Mali-G51 MP4 1000 MHz
i wanna test beta how?
hello, did we get a bug where there are no ships going to Abyss Island?
its in golden wasteland social space
they'd probably drop the Abyss teaser during Days of Feast
guys....about the red eyed monster...After the cutscene where did it go?
@shell fossil Colour issues underwater in abyss specifically inside the buildings. I have Huawei p smart 2021 (model: POT-LX1A) and Android 9.
Sagomay said they got enough data, you can report the issues in #report-a-live-bug
the red eyed monster went deeper into the depths
anyone know how to get to the krill king?
Have you finished the 4th quest?
Where to write about seasonal candles? If a mask was bought for a heart, and then this mask was transferred to the main spirits and now one heart is missing to close the awards branch from the season guide.
you can write feedback on issues and bugs you're experiencing in either #beta-feedback or if it is a bug, #beta-bugs-android or in #beta-bugs-ios
Thanks
Also something to keep in mind for beta testing in general. There is no compensation in beta.
#beta-faq be sure to read it all please
As well, when looking for an answer to a question, please refrain from spamming the same question in multiple beta channels. Just try to be patient and someone will answer you. 😊
Or read the #beta-faq , where it clearly says there will be no compensation for currency issues and beta is unpredictable etc. 
hello somebody knows where the boat to the new area went? cause it’s gone :0
thank you TT' 🙂
Hello guys, would anyone mind assisting me for the 4th quest I keep on struggling.. and losing stars
Hi. Have you tried looking for help in #beta-looking-for-group ? That channel is likely to give a quicker response.
I find it so strange that so many people cannot find the moved boat in social space despite it being very obvious there. Additionally the location has been changed for over a week so I'm scratching my head on that one 😅
It's obvious provided you actually look towards the right -- problem is, tunnel vision is extremely easy to fall into if you've already got an objective in mind, and there was no reason really pay attention to that side of the screen before prior to the boat being put there (nothing but a Return Shrine to go Home). Easiest example of tunnel vision is when you miss a candle cake or seasonal candle up in the social area because you're too focused thinking about the next part of your usual candle run routine -- it's actually quite easy if the object isn't right in the middle of your field of vision.
Haaaaaaving said that, it's a little disconcerting how many people are overlooking the update notes 
does anyone find the ult cape a bit…not ult like?
Just needs the necklace part to stand out more
Mucho texto
It's...like not reading instructions
No read, only honk 

No read, only sneak peek new shiny stuff. 
True true
I recommend you to send your opinion in feedback channel
Maybe this way devs gonna see our opinion
I will
Thanks
Hi
Ults, as have been mentioned by the devs are not necessarily the 'fanciest' items, but are the final items to unlock. If you look at the history of seasonal cosmetics in beta you'll see that items have been moved back and forth between the seasonal spirits and the quest giver. So there is a level of subjectivity when making these kind of assessments. Personally I feel they wasted an opportunity with scrapping the ult mask when they could have redesigned it, but it's just my opinion. That being said, there has been little focus on redesign thus far as we have a new mechanic and other consideration at the moment, so perhaps the next big update aside from hopefully dealing with the color bug plaguing many Android user will also focus on cosmetics.
Wonder what changes they would make to the initial cosmetics bc they've grown on me but not enough to entice me to buy an AP for Abyss
my main hope is that the art-update planned for the new constellation will bring some other art changes as well 
I hope they don't remove the acorn hat 
I'd fight them 
it's so cute
especially with the long hair from vault
Well, that's the devs' opinion. Imho final items should be worthy collecting 350-390 seasonal candles like it is in the Season of Flight now. I like the final Ultimate so much that i will get all the candles i need for it. Reverse situation happened with Season of Little Prince for me: ultimates looked not worthy for me, so I skipped the whole season after after getting some of emotes and cosmetics i liked. So I think it weird to put "lower than average" items as Ultimate or final
Id skip this next season after all. They are not my type.
Plus the ulti has no extra story like dreams season
Previous seasons have set the standard so it does kinda feel weird for the ults to feel like something you'd get from any other spirit
Tbh, I would have expected the coat to be an ultimate, since it's reminiscent of the Prince IAP and looks rather luxurious. But again, it's probably more a story-driven decision which items end up as ultimates. I don't like the rebreather mask at all and would never wear it, even if I got the AP.
Exactly
Hmm that coat navy cape is surely one of the reason i want to get the adpass. Too bad that its only adpass not ulti mmhm
My initial thoughts was that it was an ult from how it looked but we don't have much overcoat capes to begin with so making it an ult would create somewhat of a barrier in the variety of capes to get for F2P
The coat is already AP locked, so it wouldn't really matter if it was an ultimate or not.
I love the coat. But I feel it's still lacking something. The Season of Dreams did it best and I still can't believe it was free to purchase without AP.
Personally I'm not at all impressed by this season's cosmetics.
It will come back after TS, so not making it hypeful hhh
That's my thoughts exactly, the dancing Performer Cape is in a league of its own compared to the one in Abyss
Overall, too many free cosmetics and most of them are the good ones to wear.
I forgot the Dreams coat, which is also very nice and preceeded Prince cape. Personally, I prefer this Abyss version out of the three.
Id prefer coat to be Ultimate as well. It looks like one, why not making it smell like one?
A good decision bc I've seen people get literally depressed bc they can't get an AP and a cosmetic they really want is AP locked
Thats golden cape from Dream?
Yes i know, but this one seems pretty much unbalanced, the ultimate gift is also wack so.. thats why this adpass seems skippable
Wake me up when stumbling came as TS //runs
Don't give them any ideas before they decide to rearrange it
As it is now... It's not worthy to be an ultimate. It's flat when you fly, the sleeves don't have any movement to them. It's like a basic cape but with a different shape.
The Yellow Dreams coat cape feels heavy and sturdy, and has a movement to it. The sleeves have volume and shape and movement. It actually feels like a coat and moves with you.
The Abyss one... Looks like a paper coat.
Lets hope this thing will change as its still Beta
Time to head to #beta-feedback but I think we'll start seeing cosmetic tweaks last
Already
This is one of the more contentious seasons concerning cosmetics, it seems. I like all the cosmetics except for that shawl cape the Angler has. I will be getting an ad pass, regardless of what is locked or not.
I really like the cosmetics and hope that they do not mess with the color pallette.
Whenever I buy an AP, there's always the thought of that's a few more spirits to not look forward to as ts and that's honestly the only thing keeping me on the game. I hope they add more functions to the area so it just doesn't feel like another season with pretty clothes and a soon to be abandoned seasonal area
My thoughts are along the lines of "ouch, that'll be a pricey spirit later". I always get an ad pass. I have yet to see a season so lacking in cosmetics for my taste that I've felt the need to decide to skip.
That's also a huge problem with the game, seeing how prices are inflating when spirits come back, I like the concept of the lower half of seasonal nodes being less expensive but they need to start dropping the prices of most things, like how the flower crown was moved from candles to hearts
That's basically how I think of it too. Now I have like less than 10 more spirits left to complete, so if I missed a season pass, I'd have to wait for these to come back too
Sky lacks variety to an alarming degree, they mentioned it in the QnA so hopefully events will start having more things to do instead of being an aesthetically pleasing marketplace
Yeah, it's gotta be brutal for new players. Especially with all these 4 spirit seasons.
On the topic of ults the rebreather mask is interesting. It should be an ult as it's unique being the first cosmetic that acts like a prop. However it's superfluous by the time you get to unlock it because of all the recharge points in Abyss (which we obviously need).
Yeah i think w prices i do wish theyd slow them down a notch
I feel like hair and masks are very overpriced, capes are debatable as well
Ever since little prince ended i had like 430 candles after conversion and i got knocked down to 195 and i feel like im not gonna be able to keep up at this
They mentioned in the QnA? That's very much reassuring
on that topic.........not looking forward to another collab,,, please pleeease be an event
I would prefer if they sped things up on the ts side, and hiked down prices significantly, as it'll soon be impossible to acquire everything from past travelers in literally 2 years (with no repeats). the ts pool is at 50 seasonal spirits, which means it'll take you 100 weeks to get everything
You have a point there, I feel like everyone will be used to the whole having to recharge aspect the same way they did when it comes to flying
Would "more frequently and cheaper" only increase pressure?
I hope not, but it'd be a good compromise...?
week-and-a-half-ly, perhaps
but yeah there's also the argument of "the work needed during the season"
crusty old enchantment moth here would prefer things to be easier for the younguns, but that's just one person out of many
If the prices are cut in half that still kind of nets to the same pressure if its just a week in between. A week and a half would def help
I'm surprised they're willing to have another collab after TLP, not the most liked season.
on the flipside, having them be weekly and still remain at the current price point would perhaps make it easier for the "you don't need to get everything" message to actually become reality - since it would be literally impossible to buy every spirit out
...every 9/10-ish days, I guess
would be good, 3 a month
some people enjoyed it, and I'm glad they did - but I was begging for that to be it, I really didn't like it
Traveling spirits already force people to choose between event cosmetics and ts cosmetics so that would just drive alot of players away
that would be unfair, so no
Well,yeah. And since they added those plants and the shells work I haven't even been using the rebreather.
would the reeeeeally cheap ones (Sassy and Nod for example) stay the same, though?
Just maybe. Take the prices down a notch so a spirits price cant be higher than so and so
I suppose they'll change how it was done. Personally for me as long as it's not packed with IAPs, it could be fun, because I enjoyed LP story-wise, not so much to my pockets
There’s definitely pros and cons to both systems, however with both I believe prices need to be reduced and the number of candles someone can earn in a day needs to be increased as well, the economy frankly, is in shambles SGHDHDHD
As well TS being more frequent would make it so that people feel less bad skipping, if you miss a ts now they’re not coming for another year, but more frequent means a sooner return
yeah my hope in that is that they've likely learnt from LP
Increasing the daily limit will prolly have people less inclined to buy candle packs and I'm not sure how TGC would feel about that
ie like have it so a spirit cannot be higher than 180-195
...good point
unsure what the stance is on that - it'd be beneficial for the playerbase, but I'm unsure on the devs' side
Story was great, cosmetics were depressing. You could tell that the creative direction wasn't necessarily one you'd expect from TGC
However, for people who's waiting for some specific spirits to return, it would be so stressing to see your dreamy finally came back but you literally got not time to save
Having TS more often would be a nightmare for me ngl
imagining Shrug (current top spot) while I'd be broke again is heartbreaking so good point
Maybe it'll end up like recharging props, nice to have but not necessary to use as often
I would also consider the current system as unfair given that to buy juggler/fire prophet out you'd need to grind around 20 candles per day for the entire two weeks (and spend nothing on anything else). cosmetics coimpletionism is rapidly becoming an impossible play style unless you shell out on candle packs. I don't personally believe keeping the prices inflated like this is good, but I don't believe they'll ever hike them down again out of fear that players will find it "unfair" they spent more to get those cosmetics in the past 
ie. A spirit like dancing performer if they stuck to the usual pricing system would round up to like mmmmaaaybbeee 243???
ok
this might be controversial but
TS props are a pointless addition
(please politely argue if you disagree)
Feels like there's always a conflict of interest between beta testers and TGC, morally that is
Need I remind you when the TS was first introduced, it was on a weekly schedule, and only available for 60+ hours (compared to current 96 hours)
That changed due to feedback and the pressure to collect everything (I almost missed one of the TS’es because of the previous schedule )
shared spaces are offtopic, I would go on a rant about why I hate them but now is not the time
I feel like the backlash would prolly see players either bash TGC for the entire visit or demand the prices to be lowered (which will not happen)
thanks for your input, I didn't know that - joined late Enchantment as you know, so only learnt about the system in a later iteration
Yes and no!
Pointless if you don't build shared spaces or the object does nothing (watching at you, memory cubes), but if you do they actually make fun props.
I like them for that reason, and maybe it's something else to get for veterans, but I also like they're not truly needed, so we can skip if we don't like or don't care
I honestly think itd be fair to say that players who get spirits as ts work just as hard as the vets who got them in their og season,
If not more 🌞
yuh, candle running every day to spend 200 candles in two weeks is more time consuming than just doing dailies for 2 months
Shared spaces < Places where you can choose a mini game and broadcast it so other players could join.
TGC doesn't understand that social interactions aren't something to be forced, I can't for the life of me see myself walking up to a Skykid and striking a conversation
...refraining from going onto an offtopic, but tl;dr I feel like the props are a waste of time and resources that could be used to improve many more things and put too much emphasis into shoving a feature in our faces and making that the focus on things
also only increase tree prices and therefore pressure
One is more about consistency in a long place, other more about daily consistency. Both are hard, but I don't stress about seasons since I know I got chance, while TS burns me out sometimes
whew I feel much better now I said that
The community is at its breaking point with how TGC has been running the fame tbh
I still love this dearly, but there is sooooooo much to be improved
Remember the time they tested the Ap locked ts items in beta? I wasn’t there for it per se but i saw it and a little backlash…
I was part of that
very upsetting, very very glad it never became a thing
Well not a little from what youd think bc ofc people would be very mad
Oh boy, don’t get me started
Ohhh yeah. Beta was on fire. Everyone hated it.
Do tell

Honestly, it's like seeing something you love turn to just another daily grind and simply saying then don't play the game is very dismissive to how the fan base feels
I think like... Shared Spaces do have some kind of magic, bc it allows for creative building. But I feel very restricted because of the space (very few items) and having only 4 locations.
And that doesn't change the fact we need more things to do like mini games or so. Trials were great for that, but maybe even more tiny things would help.
If I could use my hoop to build a flying course I would be so happy
what keeps me to this game is optimism that the devs Can Listen
I hang in there in case
refuses to elaborate further
leaves
I wouldn’t mind that system if it was introduced from dawn of the TS system, but it was way too late to introduce it
It's especially hurtful when you've invested money in this game.
this game is much more than a grind to me, but I hate hate hate it being emphasised on
ascends 
YES they missed such a good opportunity to make the hoop an. Actually interesting prop
See, they listen occasionally. They listened when I gave feedback about more oxygen replenishing spots in the new area. But when we critique about all the events coming through, suddenly we should just "leave the game"
Let's hope 2022 is the year for better things, less cosmetics and candle running! More things to actually do