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- I hope it's more user friendly with all of the flashy/bright lights, I don't want photosensitive users to be unable to play during this season because of that

i hope days of summer will be good
have gotten less super duper anxious about things. I’ll be fine with scheduling; it won’t be Much to do and more likely won’t interfere much than a lot
and can always come up with backup plans for videos/activities/etc
only saying this here because I was veeery freaked out last night and this is following from that
did they extend it or no
How do moths join the "Season of Shattering" quest after the "Season of Shattering" is over?
We are teleporting from the constellations now, but when the "Season of Shattering" is over, there will be no more constellations. They have no means of transportation.
Sorry, I am not good at English.
Is there only 1 shard location today? I only found 1 in dream, and no shard at 
it probably won’t be possible, like sky’s earliest seasons.
I see. But I don't think so......
There is a Star Kid at the event site. When we go to Eden our wing light is out.
I thought it was strange that we could only go to the event area once.:SkyThink:
Shatter will end soon in beta or maybe extended , once that happens we might find out what happened then
well, we will always be able to complete the shard event, but i don’t think it will go towards the season of shattering completion once the season is over
if there are wl hidden in the memories that must mean that we will be able to access them after the season ends
which would make it possible for moths to replay this season after season of shattering has ended (just a guess though)
although, gotta say the WLs are kind of negligible now that we will always have enough to get 10 wings in normal areas even for absolutely new moths hahaha
I would be terrified if I had to go to Eye of Eden or The Light to get to the event area......
I hope it doesn't come to that.
i dont mind if its an area accessible within edens social area itself, it would be an interesting place to put it
WL is among several quests. We have to go to Daylight Prairie etc. to complete our quests ...... If the entrance to the event area was in Eye of Eden or The Light we would not be able to get all the WL.
sorry, i dont think i follow. why would you be locked out of WL if its attached to the social area?
Sorry, I didn't translate the "social area" part correctly. You are talking about Storm, not Eden, right? (sorry if I am wrong).
The social area is the part of Eden at the start, before the first gate
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Thanks for letting me know.
okay all I'm saying is that shattering was very disappointing and NOT AT ALL ready to be released to live
man i was really expecting shattering would be like 20 days more than 13 days
Sigh people with beta pfps really tryna cause drama on skycord huh?
hi hi i heard this is where i can ask some questions about the upcoming event?
People using beta screenshots as pfps - eg post quest memories
If people see them around say gen chat, that's gunna cause a lot of drama (always has done)
@mighty junco what's up, what questions you have ab SoSh?
not really much of a big question- but how long will the season last? im broke after buying cosmetics from DoR and i really want to buy from SoSh huhu
testing was like 50 days?
Also I'm pretty sure the blog post stated the season length, so you should PROBABLY re read it
Season of Shattering begins on 00:00 July 11th and continues until 23:59 September 25th
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how much seasonal candles do we get in a single day? i mean and the wax and the quests
Beta? 25, 20 from bundles, 4 from quests, 1 AP daily
Where in the valley today is the shard? I always struggle to find it in valley
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Average 2 months💀
I completed the shattering season event but never found a wing in any memories at all ! Was there actually wings to collect ?
Alright, thanks.
Not sure where else to ask this except in this channel, but how fast can you collect asc candle wax from strong eruptions in the new season?
As in, is it worth it compared to eden?
It depends, it’s going to take a terribly long time solo compared to a cooperative group, although the total AC varies from 2 to 3.5/4 & it’s unpredictable at times, everyone might not gain the same total amount of AC from the event
Is it worth it? Maybe, if you need some “quick” AC when it seems that a whole Eden trip isn’t worth those 2-3 AC you’re in need of
Ah I see, thanks for the info! 
Keep in mind the schedule is going to be drastically different in live
Tbh, I wouldn't go for eden run anymore or 1 year 1 eden run because of the damage overhaul. Go for the Crystal route instead
as you don't need to go through ascencion and recollect wl the shards are a superior source of ac if you only need a few per week
I was thinking the same thing, especially knowing now that you can collect up to 4 AC, if you're not unlocking wings specifically it seems like a much better option
Well, based on the TS they choose for. Maybe you already collect that spirit tree and don't need to waste for that AC candles
That too! I mean, even that can be worth it for a new surefire wl but it depends on what you want
Yes there were wings- unfortunately- I’ve only had like 55 wing power and cannot ever actually get UP to the memories to get the wing light… very annoying
Shards are not in hermit valley. Has anyone found them yet? I missed the last shard because I was waiting in wrong place
did you check icerink? not sure of schedule today but wax ones are usually in icerink
Hmmmm that’s frustrating … feel free to send me qr in my pm and we will see if we can do it together x
Sorry for late ping, but in addition to info already provided we don’t know if there is still a limit to AC per week.
I see, thank you! I was more wondering what the average was usually per person so that's okay 😄
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For me it's a nice way to slowly collect AC for resize potions without worrying about collecting wings every week 
And depending on the week you can get much more than going to eden
I hate the crawling feature
For those who are still wondering when is Update, please keep in mind that Sagomay said that the build that includes testing the "second half" of the season would be released after yesterday. And yes, after yesterday doesn't mean it is today. It could be today or tomorrow or tomorrow tomorrow or even next weeks or months,... we just don't know. So yeah, the build will be release when it is ready.
sky anniversary when
July 18th - 31st
I still haven't caught on to this "pattern" people talk about. When there's 2 Shards, when there's 1, when they're red, when they're black.... what pattern?
It's just been chaos to me.
I mean, we know all of the locations that shards may appear in
But that's most of the "pattern" I've seen
However, in the patch notes it has been said that the first week will have the most intense eruptions, so I think it's a guarantee it's going to be all red shards
fyi shattering is 77 days in live
Please refer to the patch notes in #news You can ask question about the live game in #questions-and-help
Does anyone have the prices for Sky anniversary?
Yes it’s at the very last stage where the giant flying thing is at. You have to fly up it’s in one of the eye sockets
#news, read the patch notes 
Wait so how would you actually get wing buffs if you collect ac thru the shards instead of eden
Also do the shards “respawn”/refresh within one day if someone gets to it before you do
AC is the currency to purchase the wing buffs, not the actual buff. You would still have to do the whole buy from spirits/TS => Eden rebirth process like normal.
Dang. So you’d have to go thri eden anyways to get more wing buffs?
Also about the shards, do they regenerate if someone gets to them before you do
For the new buff to be added to your count, yes, you would have to do Eden as usual.
On the plus side, if it's TS week and you don't have AC, you could grab some AC from the shard events without needing to Eden I guess?
Hopefully, someone can clarify your second question because I haven't personally encountered that situation. The shards flashed too much in the previous build so I didn't do a lot of the events.
I just won’t want someone else dojng the shard event before me/at the same time to mean that I can’t do it anymore
I’m not a beta tester but, I think the shards might be like the clams from abyss?
Cuz in a YT vid I saw awhile back someone was doing the same thing that person just finished
I admire people who want to be or already are beta players. I prefer to sit on the sideline and watch the chaos unfold. Y'all are amazing
Uhg i hate abyss missions is so repetitive 🙄
Shattering: 🌚
I didn’t like the season of abyss and flight as much as the little prince and performance idk they were just boring
The season of the little prince has a special place in my heart
Little prince storytelling is amazing 
People got so emotional because its was very well made
Just like Dreams
At first I made fun of his design but I got attached to him and was really sad when he was gone. I wish I could see him again.
It would be nice if we could replay it. I did it as a baby moth and had no idea what I was doing. I enjoyed it, but not as much as I could have, I think. Plus, it would be fun to meet him in eden more often
The replay memory thing should definitely let you redo the quest with no benefits, I hate just seeing that rose cutscene
Also any beta testers please tell me there’s not shards at the starlight desert
There are shards at starlight desert 👀
About replaying LP quests, maybe put that in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived ?
I’m suing
Well let me rephrase, we tested shards in starlight desert, nobody knows how it will eventually be in live
Oh okay. I’m scared for the next season I don’t want to get attacked by a crab that’s as aggressive as a chihuahua
did anyone else just see eden explode in live ?? 
WHAT? JOINING RN
yep the eden explosion animation plays in some realms already, but shards don't fall to the ground
Naw 😭😭
I’m gunna sit in live for a while to try to catch it, how often does it happen?
Yeah, it's like a "visual bug" I experienced that since just updated the new patch on live
Guys,I think the test suit will be qualified soon
i never noticed until i turned my camera and got jumpscared by a pink sky
, so many massive bugs getting through with this patch update 
Are the shard crabs bigger than normal crabs? Oh my elders that has to suck
so...how many winged lights in the ancient memory area?
Morning folks! How youre doin?
Have you guys played the Alto games?? Altos Adventure and Altos Odyssey? Both are beautiful games
I think they will be a perfect fit for a collab season hehe
Guess we can get ski prop or something that can be used in valley 🤣

Please send me a link in dm to theses games
More like a snow/sandboard prop, so we can go faster in the slide races hehe
hope they remove crawling in eden

Not gunna happen the crawl is here to stay
it feel like crawling in there is unnessary like why would we even need that when we want to done eden quick and fast, and not being sleep in there for an hour
and that's exactly the opposite of what tgc wants eden to be: emotional and tragic
like why they dont reduce brightness at the last area
or they want player going to be blind, there are a lot of thing need to be fix or update and they choose making us craw
I know they wont remove crawling, because they want to make the Eden experience more dramatic, i would suggest to the devs to make crawling a bit faster.
they can make eden as emotional and tragic as they want, it still generally loses that effect after doing it a few times (and well we NEED to for AC)
as for the crawling i still very much prefer that over being stunlocked for a minute straight (actually happened to me!!!) at the endless rain area. truly if you're just careful about when you're going to the next statue you very much can go through eden unscathed until the endless rain. it just takes actual practice and timing now instead of being completely random. i like eden now
Honestly yeah as much as I hate crawling, it's so much better than stunlock
it may be slow but at least you can MOVE 😭👍
and i will say they DID increase the speed already. if they increased it anymore they would have to change the animation as well, because right now... honestly it's a little funny looking haha.
Haha yea
Don't mind my recent message deletion oops I accidentally typed here and not in game chat to partner 💀
The fast crawl is pretty creepy already
an idea i have is that it starts slow when you get knocked down, but speeds up pretty quickly with a gait that makes sense and hopefully doesn't look as silly, and ends up ultimately being a little faster than the current crawl. this idea comes from the fact that your skykid slowly stands back up and goes from a limp to a normal walk if you're not hit for a while
however i can feel that being a bit annoying, as sadly it would make sense for the crawl to slow back down if you're hit again
I like the crawling for when it was endless red rain and you would constantly get knocked over and stunlocked
Not gonna lie, i really liked when the rock rain came in charged layers when you werent hiding behind a boulder 

i would like the crawling if they make it look hide and seek crawl bug speed 
i like the idea of slow eden but i feel like if youve done it a few times you should have the option to either do old eden (the fast one) or the new eden (the slow one)
both would not have an advantage over the other and its entirely up to the user on which one they want to experience for their weekly run, i think
would be a happy medium to for both people who dont like crawling in eden vs though who like it
thats a good idea
you can still get the same amount of ac both ways right? its just the time thats different
yeah afaik its still the same cap for both edens (though i havent done new eden yet since ive done it this week already)
the only things that would be different is the old eden would have the layout pre-shattering with no crawling while new eden would be the one we have currently
Ok that makes sense.. 4 ac in 5 days. Are 20.. And two wax days. Between..
So in a week you can earn 40 ac? With eden? If you reach all statues.?
I don’t understand how you mean by that 😭
Eden we can get 14-20 I heard.. I just always get 15.. And the daily shards give ac too. So 4 candles for one shard.. Depends on how good you are. Then we have some wax days.. Where we get just candle wax... You said we get the same amount on both ways..
So max 20 from eden plus 20 from shards? Or am I thinking wrong?
i dont think eden ever gave 20? i thought ~15 wax the max
Yeah eden never gave out 20
although I wish they did, I’d be able to buy six resize potions
AYO? which realm were you at??? I wanna take a look at this 👀
Eden give 0.25 AC per statue so max was 15.75
+4 AC per red shard ( max 3 days with two red shards if you're lucky)
Max is 39.75?
That’s still really good, I could buy nine resize with that
Hello, where are shards today?
I throughly you were supposed to burn the plants and avoid touching the red shards. So why 4ac per red shard?
Sorry if my questions are repetitive I’m new here
late response but i was in the prairie lobby ^^
i usually see testflight in my “suggestions” in the app library (ios) when there is an updoot, but it’s scammed me a few times now
What do you mean? Testflight is the app used to access beta on iOS. It’s not a scam.
i mean scam in a way that it looks like as if there is an update, but actually there is no update. sorry for a misunderstanding😭
and sorry for my english rn
Ok. Testflight itself also needs updating sometimes.
I was getting 2-4 AC as a reward for completing each red shard area, but I only got that reward from that area once a day
But it completely depends on how many red shard areas appear in a week
Oh ok ok
AH thanks man!!
And if you do as group, you each get 2-4 ac right
Yes so far in beta at least. Who knows what it's like in live.
You will also get that amount even if you play solo. It's not necessarily a group thing.
The shards don’t always give 4 ascended candles. I’ve only gotten 2-3. And I just got 16 from Eden.
So doing a Shard event for a quest doesn’t always guarantee you’ll finish the quest?
Red shards are what complete quests. Not the black ones
if beta stays same as live
Ok ok got it. Thanks!
I wonder if Eden is supposed to explode in live or not. I haven’t seen it yet but I hope it’s not super flashy
Is the max AC on eden still 15.75 after the changes?
Do the shattering spirits give out wing buffs?
Only travelling spirits and main constelation spirits do that
i think it should be changed, but no sure.
I feel like there is 1 or 2 missing, cant confirm
Hmm are you guys able to log in normally in beta?
SO
I just saw someone post a video about seeing a Prarie eruption in live screen shots.
is this supposed to happen?
hi umm, i want to become a beta tester and dont have nitro what should i do?
Nitro doesn't matter. You have to wait for an invite wave and those are entirely random. Go to #beta-faq and get the beta ping role if you haven't
ok
no, but people have been experiencing glitches where part of SoS activates way before it's supposed to
TGC polish your game challenge
Yeah I’ve heard ppl complaining that realms get dark in live etc
Does anyone know if it got addressed how the WLs in memories be obtainable after event ends?
After this season ends can we all pretend it never happened?
Is the Eden exploding on a set timer or is it random?
Every 30 mins
Every 30 min at about :05 and :35
Is that a bug in live too? Does it activate then? I’ve been wanting to catch it
Sorry for too many questions
Yeah it’s a bug, and perhaps it only affects certain devices. Not everyone sees it
Man I wish!! If the damage mechanics could revert to the way they were…
Let’s just hope for a major upheaval in Live since apparently we don’t count
Late response, but it was mentioned in the known issues post for live that they are aware that viewing the memories from the season guide is not working in the current build, so I'm assuming they intend to fix that hopefully for 0.18.5 so they should be easier to get again at some point
Shattering Guide’s “View this memory again” button is not currently available.
https://thatgamecompany.helpshift.com/hc/en/17-sky-children-of-the-light/faq/910-known-issues-patch-0-18-0/
Thank you
No. The season hasn’t started in live yet.
where's the shards today?
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Tbh I'm kinda looking forward to the season and idk if that's a bad thing 
Like, it means I can organise Shattering groups with friends but ik if I say "Oh yeah I like the stuff Shattering brings to Sky" I'd get (verbally) bashed on for it 
Some people have been seeing the explosion effect in live, there’s some videos of it in the live screenshot channel.
The crawling is going to be a big mistake and people already hate it. They need to take that out.
; u;
I’m not sure why they would put that in live now when the season hasn’t started. This is all going to be a big mistake.
I hope they will just scrap it still. I hate everything about it.
I don’t understand why you would be verbally bashed unless you word your opinions in a way that dismisses other players concerns. Even when people in this channel have spoken up and said they enjoy parts of the season nobody’s tried to bash them.
The crawling, and the props being so useless! What are we expected to do if we can’t hide and can’t recharge??
aren't they gonna keep the stuff tho. the shards is a thing thatll keep going after season end tho
I know! At least deep calling charges someone else again, but it’s all just a mess.
the lights helps you recharge along with recharge spells if you are alone or your fellow friend is also injured
Like saying that you enjoy the SoS content is one thing, but saying something like “Doing the SoS content is easy, you guys are just complaining about it for no reason” is another
so, have yall figure out where the shards are for today or-
Considering the way the beta chat was speaking it def seems like it 
Like, just lemme enjoy the event without seeing toxicity in the chat anytime it's brought up 
I'm hoping the 2nd part of the season puts SoS in its redemption arc
mkay imma figure it out have fun discussin yall
It does but not once they’re extinguished, so that’s half useless too
This is happening in multiple servers that I'm in too so it just feels like "No you're not allowed to like SoS if we don't like it you don't like it" 
It's in village of dreams (oof sorry I just saw your later message 😭)
mkay thank you!
Well, I think you’d probably do better to hang around in #cozy-sky-discussion once the season hits live, at least for a while. The frustrations that beta testers have is probably going to also be felt by live players. I’d also argue that the discussions here aren’t “toxic,” the only time I’d consider that is if somebody starts to intentionally try and start an argument or something. For the most part even though the conversations are talking about the season negatively it’s not “toxic.” Theres a lot of valid complaints to be had so people are naturally going to be bringing them up. I cant say that things won’t be crazy when it hits live though.
Up to a certain point. I can’t get to the last lights, and what’s more frustrating is that, despite asking for more accessibility for so long, it’s so dark in there that I can’t see where the next lights are.
I have to run blindly into the rock rain hoping I’ll stumble on a light before dying
Tbh I found that your experience really apparent almost everywhere these days. I found many people tend to show their disappointments (which is okay) towards the season too strongly. To the point that it feels like discouraging other players to like it. But just so you know, there will always be people who like this season, or some parts of it. I hope you'll find kinder people next time you talk about this season 
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I think crawling is not that bad, my main issue with it is that if you get hit by a krill that makes you lose like 4/5 wings at once, you wont be able to get all back alone, unless you get to light first
The thing is nowadays you don’t have time to get those WL back before they disappear. Last year we had I think 14 seconds; now they scatter so far from you and from each other and you only have a couple seconds to gather them back.
Frequent scenario is you get krilled a second time doing so because of the crawling slowing you down
Im not sure if the way the wings go out changed, its usually random.
In fact my strategy for krills was always throw myself against a wall if there is no cover at all, the wings get kinda stuck on the wall most of the time
I've seen some screenshots and videos and it looks like Eden has already started to erupt in live. Is this switch only?
wait. do every area in the quests have a wl
cuz i found one on the crabs one. thought only the whale one has it haha
There is 3
And im not sure about the eruptions
as far as I know, I remember crabs, manta, and king tuna.
thank you! good to know
You can like the season! I hope that you're not discouraged from playing it! There are many things to like about the season, as much as there are things to dislike about the season. Despite the fact that I'm not happy with a lot of it...I still plan to play and attempt to enjoy the season. I hope you will too ❤
youre absolutely not alone, i'm honestly mostly fine with everything, just a little disappointed about the lack of storytelling! but other than that most of my negative feelings come from worrying about everyone else ^^;; for me i'm excited about shattering
sorry i forgot to turn the ping off!!! also didn't realize how old that message is either, sorry óvò
to be honest i think i like the season decently but the new crawling mechanic makes everything too frustrating. i feel like it punishes players a bit too much for taking damage and causes them to take more damage because you move slow (especially during eden and shard events) i just still feel like something is missing. a lot of people wanted an eden season for so long and now that we get one it doesn't really expand much on the story at all, which is sad because it's the main story of sky. the scenes we see at the end of the quests are cool but right now there is no way to view them again after they have been seen which is also sad
Who else is hoping for season of Shattering season role they use 🆘 for the react button
will the anniversary testing continue in 0.18.5?
The anniversary event is already gone to live. We don't know for sure, but it's unlikely. Usually events aren't tested very long or restarted unless they need to be redone. I would guess not, and that we will be testing Days of Summer instead.
didn't we already finished testing the anniversary event?
Hi, I saw this in a video but wasn’t sure if it was a beta thing, a live thing, or maybe an unintended side effect so thought it was best to ask here: are krill meant to go after your props instead of your skykid?
im not too sure if its a bug or a feature but it seems that krill will hit props if you place it before you get hit
only the devs knows for sure, as it is not clear whether it is intended or not, but it has been confirmed that it works that way.
Reguardless, you can use prop as a shield atm and it will enter on a cooldown of 60 seconds
Same goes if it get hit by storm at eden or a crab
im really excited for the season and i love they're trying something new! but my main question is will they come back as travelling spirits?
no wonder i couldnt place fire prop right after it got hit by a crab
can you show me? kinda curious now
Well there aren't any spirits for SoSh and the shard cleansing quests might become permanent so there probably won't be any TS's from SoSh 
I think the prop was to prevent people from recharging that why the red crabs attack the prop first instead of person.. but i am not sure if this is intended
Am I the only person confused after completing shattering?
Yeah the shards become a daily AC/wax farming event after you complete the guide's tree, which is the goal from what I can gather of the devs' notes on it. They wanted to provide an alternative means for gathering AC. Makes the season a lil boring and repetitive but well, that's how it is so far. Not sure what "phase 2" of it will bring. Hopefully we get a bit more lore and action.
although not sure what is going to be shard frequency since live and beta might be different
When they do a progress wipe does it wipe your Live progress too?
No
No, Sagomay said they changed that, so can call for someone bald.
But that's not what the patch notes say
That’s not what I experienced, both in Live and beta. I think they’re mixed up again….
I didnt saw any mention about being able to charging people bald with honks
Wait wha. Charging people BALD?
We cant recharge people that lost all the light by honking
I was minding my business and saw some moth getting a bunch of stuff but it was the same thing over and over as if it was in loop
.... (sus
) they were kinda speedy too
I saw some people in office recently and they somehow kept getting a bunch of seasonal candle packs and iap packs even though you could only get one
Probably a hacker then, there's also a lot of hackers in beta rn ( I think)
It just seemed weird that they were getting so many packs
Candles are free in beta too so I don't really understand why they'd be buying a bunch of Seasonal candles with the AP
exactly, they're a hacker. please report them in game if possible and try not to give attention to them
you can't buy seasonal candle packs or standard candlr packs in beta but you can get iaps that come with candles (e.g office guitar)
Hey does anybody know how to get the beta version? I can’t seem to find it
Oh ok ty!!
me too! seems so weird
@unique river @chilly wigeon please report those players immediately! They are hackers! To report just light them and tap on the report button. You don’t need to friend them
I know to report the hackers but does it get them permanently banned?
They are hackers, please report on sight
How to report? I was only able to record it was my first time seeing a hacker too
(oh nvm I saw it)
We can’t charge people who lost their light with deep honks anymore, I don’t know if Sagomay said that recently or not but it’s wrong
This was like 2 days ago
Bruh I've seen people say that Sagomay said that you can recharge extinguished players with deep call and that you can't. When they haven't even mentioned anything on that recently
im so confused.. what's the official take on recharging and is it even working properly in the game 😭
Could it be that because TGC is currently making a animated project probably filled with a huge amount of lore, that seasons from now on for a while that they won’t feature any story elements? Or is that just for the Season of Shattering?
Honks recharge players normally unless they are extinguished, as in crawling. That hasn't changed since the first build. People are just not reading update and patch notes properly, on-top of people spreading misinformation
where is the darkness in valley today?
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Hey does anyone know where the shard is ;w;?
Village of dreams
Oh ok!
Do the shard plants spawn butterflies like other plants?
I just did a shard event and didn't see any. Question for people who have done the shard events many times (I've been super inactive this season!) Can you earn rewards from doing shards multiple times a day or is it only once? I just did two in a row and didn't receive any more AC wax and wanted to make sure this is intended 
Nope, they don't spawn butterflies. At least if I can remember correctly from my observations while doing shards quests
You can only do each shard once
I thought that was where the whole new butterfly feature came from. 🤔
I haven't been on since the last quest so idk
Hey the shard is not showing at all,, Ive looked everywhere in valley
are the shards only in dreams ice rink? or hermit valley too?
village of dreams its a little delayed but the estimate is around xx:38 and xx:08
I am not so amused with this void things... And wings there. And that is all random. That Forces us to go evryday to shard to hope to go to a wl this time. That can be the solution! Forcing people to play isn't good. With the trials I am Satisfied, because you go if you have time and then you can choose wich wl you want to have. Or get all at one day.
But this new system. That means this wl (3, I heard of) doesn't count properly for me. It's just a special. If you lucky you can get one.
when the only thing shattering in this season is the game's code 
maybe its just because im super lazy but WLs have always been optional and i don't see why the 3 WL in the memories are that important to have, unless you're saying it's weird that the memory you get is random therefore theres no "surefire" way to consistently obtain that WL
Maybe to reach my 11 wedge? 😭
they’re probably focusing more on the collab season
theres already 106 WL available in all realms currently, + 49 from regular spirits. you can already obtain 11 wedges which require 150 WL without a single TS wing buff, so i don't see why the 3 WL in SoS memory area is necessary
Yes if you have all open the regularly spirits.
i guess this is more of a preference thing then, might as well just skip the 3WL in shattering to get them from regular spirits since its easier that way!
But nvm.
I just saying. That i am not amused with it.
Maybe there are just one wl in void. And it depends on wich memory you hopp in, if it's there. It can show up in the crab memory, or krill memory.. And not 3. 🤷
yeah the inconsistency is definitely the more annoying part of obtaining those WLs, i wonder why its randomized lol
wait wasnt it originally Not randomized
We have been given very little information. So who knows. 
Seasonal candles are missing for me o.o
Me too
Oh, that “bug” again. They might have set the end date to today originally.
I restarted the game and they appeared for me.
I'll try that
Okay, it works :D 
From what I know, butterlfies do appear around shards for the most part, some might not spawn some. I know Sanctuary definitely has butterlfies and I've not exactly been on beta in a few weeks, but just keep an eye out for them Nasty 
It's a good idea to place a memory candle down for yourself at the beginning of the event of placing like a campfire in a space place or bring recharges. Definitely advice I can give there 
I believe you can only do a shard once for the rewards. Pretty sure people would abuse the system if you could repeatedly do them for wax 
Hope this is of use and apologies for the ping 
I don’t know who it was that said that Eden is already exploding on live. It’s not. I stayed the whole time is was going in the Valley and nothing. Please don’t believe in rumors.
The lightening effect is there in Live.. unless it’s always been there
Yes they do.
The eruption animations do happen in live, several legitimate screenshots have been posted already
It can’t be that much of a mystery, we can always check it ourselves 🤷♂️
Thing is, it’s not consistent, the effect will not appear for everyone within a group
Interesting..
Will check it in..15mins to confirm
It’s not showing at all for me. All you see is the lightening, which I you already could. I don’t think the screenshots are legit for live.
Not calling anyone a liar. Just simply saying what I saw myself.
They are, the serval instances I’ve heard from have no idea what beta is
I’ll have to look again today, but all I saw was lightening. It was a tiny bit brighter, but no eruptions.
Can confirm what I see in about 10mins, if that matters at all.
Please do, because I’m very confused. I’m also confused how we can’t deep honk and light people who are bald when I saw Sagomay said it just recently.
If it does indeed happen, it is only going to be a brief earthquake followed by the shards erupting in the distance, that’s all
..sure
There wasn’t an earthquake for me either. This is my confusion, @kindred fossil.
Again, it’s inconsistent, it doesn’t follow the beta schedule, it’s not going to appear for everyone
It’s no biggi for me either way, but will share in about 4mins
Does that make it a bug then?
I understand why you remain skeptical, in that case I have no further information to provide
It’s okay. Please don’t think I’m calling you a liar. Just wondering if we should report it. Also, very confused about the deep calling for bald people.
So, after the season is done in beta, how do we go back to relieve the memories to get the wings? Doing the shard events over and over until you get the right one?
as of rn it seems so,hopefully we can be free to revisit them
They will likely fix the memory glitch
I mean since the season guide will no longer be there once the season ends.
Ahh.. good point, then.. sure, what you said
Well.. it’s been 5mins past the hour.. and no boom, will keep an eye on it, let ya know if things change 👍
Thank you. Might be a bug then or they saw only lightening and thought it was that? I don’t know.
It’s likely what Dark suggested, in that it’s not consistent for everyone. There is a dark cloud over the mountain, lightening.. not sure it’s a bug, that is when something that supposed to happen, doesn’t, can’t imagine not seeing Eden going boom pre-season start would classify as a bug.. and for those who do see it.. “yay”, I guess.
Still, nothing stopping you from reporting it as a bug 🤷♂️
I may or may not. I’m just confused lol And I still don’t like this season. Don’t hulk smash me. 😂
Yup, not sure of some of what has been added this season. If Live plays like Beta did, there will probably be many many tears… should be fun to see
Question, with the stuff appearing in live, are they around the usual increments in daily realm* or anywhere in general? Stayed at forests gate for 20 mins the other day, saw nothing, got there early as well
stuff appearing meaning Shards?
The effects in the skies for shards ect
It’s likely gonna be somewhat like the Beta experience, things usually work that way.. but, not sure.
Shard appearing at Forrest/ Granny was particularly icky, hope the Crab ratio doesn’t remain the same, as it is inconsistent with the rest of the areas.
Will have to wait and see.. as can’t say nothing for certain
I saw it in prairie yesterday in live
Thanks for letting me know Voi, I'll keep an eye out 👁️ 👄 👁️
Maybe it is just randomly exploding in different areas at different parts of the day.. makes some kinda sense that.
I think there's ways that cause that event Eden brusting Easter egg won't appears
-How the game server and your device communicate
-Ping
-Device Performance
Tbf, after the scandal of lack of story I think there's a possible second backlash in live.
A story would have been nice, it’s not always a part of each season.. just that being based on Eden, a good opportunity for storytelling has been lost.. which is a shame
Likely Crawling is gonna trigger more people
The shard event doesn't have a set time like the other events? 👀 When I thought this season can't have less guidance... 🙄
There's not always a really clear story for seasons though? Prophecy was just 'people doing training and there are pictures on the wall'
Edit: But yeah an eden/darkness season like this would have been ripe for a bit more lore stuff
Every half hour seems kinda Timed.
I meant in live. In live it won't be every half hour. Or so the devs said.
TGC has good storytelling since season of Enchantment (4 spirit with a leader trying to restore the ark, even tho people saying Enchantment is bad)
I liked enchantment, who said it was bad I'll fight them
Okay, did not know that.. whatever it is, we will manage, we always do.. and if not, it’ll be over and focus will be on what comes next.
The Shard event will appear every 1 hour. So, the season starts and along with the Shard event.
After that, 1 hour the Shard will appear at that location. Thank God that they didn't change it to random location.
Apparently the shards are already live. Just we don't know when
I think that wouldn't be true. Because why TGC release something that was tied to the season before the season has even begin
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No where does it state the shards will happen every hour. The only information we have is the shards will occur frequently during the first week and progressively occur less
Plus, when I asked the frequency in live, one of the devs just answered with "less frequent than beta"
Btw where is the shard event area today? Can’t find it 🙁🙁
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Yes, the only confirmation we have is that it won't be 30mins since that's purely for beta testing
I don’t think there really are abruptions honestly. The season hasn’t started yet for one. Also. The crawling mechanism is already in Eden on live. I don’t like all of this.
Can we get revived by butterflies? Otherwise Wasteland is going to be fun for moths since no one is there nodays... Goodluck getting saved after krill attacks
Yes, the darkness releases butterflies and they also randomly fly around.
I'm not talking about shards. I'm talking about the crawling mechanism.
But if you are bald and crawling, can you light the darkness?
tfw you're training and theres pictures on the wall
🎵 Watchin' pictures on the wall
That don't bother me at all
Doing trial runs 'til dawn with a group of only one 🎵
If you have an instant recharge potion and are crawling, you can use that. I always keep at least 5 on me, though I hardly use them except for Eden.
Yes, butterfly can help you while you are crawling
Thank you! I didn’t know that.
Prophecy had some story. At least there was more context for the trials and they are all different and unique
Tgc did say this season was going to be very different, so to me, not having a story like other seasons is reasonable. Would I have liked some story? Yeah, but it's alright that there isn't.
So what is happening with this ‘Dark Horn’ in the new season? The season is starting in live very soon yet there’s still only one button for the instrument
i think its intended to be a war horn, and only have one note
Yup and it's fine
It's a hunt trophy tho
Horn is for doot doot
Exactly, like assembly was just a band of teens wanting to decorate their treehouse and do fun activities.
If only shattering had a range of different quests that occured during the season would have made it worth it yk? Maybe they could have done shard quests where you collected stuff and brought it to a spirit that opened up a second part of the quest sorta thing? 👀
(That would have made the season better, right?)
- apologies for the late reply
May I ask where the darkness fallen location today 😥
They be at the Ark, nearby the pond
Hear me out I just had an idea for the next eden season whenever that happens...
Eden having an area like the distortion world in Pokémon, a flipside vast area to explore with different areas to explore, large islands with damaged buildings, worn down equipment, like as if once one huge island was split up by a huge explosion, a power diamond core (maybe the blue one from the old oob back in pre release)
The islands could have like twisted and decayed darkness plants and large like corrupted bloom trees and such, and maybe like an open realm temple in the middle that don't have gates the interior. Probably like 4 wings in the area and maybe 5 to 7 spirits all spread out. Krills flowing around the area and crabs on the islands.
I'd say plenty of passive form dark creatures like as if they're tamed by the spirits which could be usable to explore the open area after certain quests have been done and like rocks circling the temple on the central island part above the diamond. Maybe a few caves and such on islands which could be cool. Even a bunch of scattered murals and other stuff too 
Lmao the trial of fire bug where your flame won't fill up is now in live. Noticed that in beta a few weeks ago, sent a report but I guess there weren't enough reports in beta to call attention to it. Gg live players
Maybe... I saw some SkyTubers post recently that Fire is basically inaccessible due to bugs
Just one of those things we come across here and report but dont get fixed in time for live launch. Welp. They'll get to it eventually. Feel sorry for those desperately running for wax coz of the dor/TS scheds
Agreed... 
Though honestly, shards are gunna be useful in live, people at first will be confused but the whole aspect of the dark shards and the wax rewards will become crucial especially towards events/TS', interesting to see how people will approach the use of shards in live
- guys please remember to use memory candles at the dangerous shards that we've all struggled with here in beta (eg. Starlight, GW, Forest ect)

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Wow, I was impressed so muchh.. I hope the Eden season will come out again like this.
SoSh had too little impact for a season related to "Eden." I hope the Eden season comes again.
Yeah just like us, it'll be an... acquired taste for those who will experience it in live for the first time 
Honestly I was screensharing to my partner, was casually doing the dailies then the sky went red and the shard suddenly fell and we were like AYO WAT THE HECC IS DIS and then we did the quest and we were like YOOOOO this is actually kinda cool.. I did the one in bird's-nest 15 mins later, and found it surprisingly easy... So yes that's my say there :)
(That was on season release for beta)
I bet it'll be pretty interesting to see how live players react when they get frustrated if they ever do.
I thought those sky kids in the opening cutscene were goners lol
Honestly I see most people will avoid the forest shards at first (moreso the one by crab man and the one at end of forest - mainly because few people will go to the end of forest)
Wanna see their reactions to the shard in the graveyard

At least it's not in direct path with krills, right?
Nah, it's before the 1st rock with the plant in it and the 1 crab
Edit: but it's not danger-free, if you over-flap, that krill's aggro range could still get you
BUT CRABS, THEY ARE CUTE OKAY :<
Going back to what I said, crab mask shard is imo the most difficult due to the tight space and the like 8 shard crebs..... Tiny space and basically a wing graveyard if you don't have a light source or memory candle at hand-
Yeah, so the slide down. Gotcha.
Did y'all see that krills now have limiters to how far they go charging? I find it REALLY useful
Don't even
I threw a tantrum testing the shards at the shipwreck. I lost 9 WL there just testing crab damage. After that I went on a crab hunting vendetta
The live players reaction to eden and the crawl alone so far has been quite interesting. Especially since the crawl was much worst at first and now its slighly better.
Yup, there. I saw a player flap too high and get krilled so it's still a bit danger mouse-y to be flying willy-nilly. Best to hop around and not fly too far up or out
Everyone's loving the shards on the players stuff and the wing shatter icons for sure. Tho the flower glows.... ||FLASHBANG||
I tried testing the crawl mechanic when i heard a few days ago it was in live, went to sanctuary to repeatedly be hit but i never gained crawl so im guessing it's more of a krill thing outside of eden 
Yeah the glow is just wild. I have corneal scarring and a retinal disorder where my left eye lets in more light than the right and the glow is literally painful. I play sky with sunglasses btw, yes I'm a certified nut rofl
Oh guys there's like a sliding thing for wind walls now (easily testable on top of Prarie temple on the right side), me, my friend and my partner found it really cool when we found it yesterday 
Do I throw this into feedback or in wishlist? 
Pray tell 
Why choose when you can both
It pushes you back gracefully which is cool..also if you're flying you almost do a full loop the loop 👀
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You dont get bonked back to next week anymore when you hit the windwall? 👀
@snow steppe since I cant say it in the live discussion chat im gonna said it here , yes there was a Capeless cape but it was too expensive and you need to fully complete the vault cons and unlock it with 999 hearts , i believe it got removed or was still in beta since is not ready
999
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It was temporarily removed due to a bug, it'll be readded with all the bugged elder stuff at some point in the near future
no wayyy 999?! r they for real
I saw, I saw. Am looking for my sunglasses so I can log and test hahaha, that looked cute. Gentle nudge by the windwall compared to the usual "GET OUTTA HERE!!!" Whooosh you usually get

Yep 999 you would need like 1 month or 1 year to get the amount of 999 hearts
Yeahhhhh that was a cool change
It's supposed to be a challenging item to get, that's why it's so expensive
@lilac epoch FRRRRRRR, nice change regarding how violent Shattering basically is 
thats crazy. hopefully its just for trolling. right? XD
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It's not trolling, it's a full on item, basically makes you look like you're in trials, but acts like a normal cape... Basically turns you into super man (kinda)
I don’t think they even have any plans to put it on live in the near future as of yet too so
But they removed it in beta, didn't they?
Mhmm, invisible cape probably won't arrive for at least a year seems as we JUST got T2 black
@lilac epoch accidentally yes, along with the other elder hairs that got bugged
Eh. I'll never get it anyway. Have only 50+hearts in beta and 90 in live hahaha, too lazy to farm hearts rofl
Le petit prince scarf cape for the win✨
For invis cape... Say you get one heart from Constellation daily, and you do an 18c CR each day too, and you choose to do heart trades getting rid of these candles... That's 7 hearts per day (6 trades and a daily heart from Constellation)... Sooo... 999÷7=143 days
- perspective if you were dedicated and had all cosmetics, alongside doing eden to give AC to TS
I landed in hospital during the end of TLP so wasnt able to get the ults sniff sniff. I have the fortune fish cape huhu... almost a scarf if you squint hard hahaha
Ah-
Well the fish cape is cute too, and it counts as a scarf in my book
@shadow stratus yeah true unfortunately
That still makes me made that the first closest option for a capeless was an iap lol
This gives me full-on Lineage 2 grind feels
I play on PC, exp rate is 1%. Took me 3 weeks playing 5hrs a day to get to level 80 from lvl79 sooo hahaha too grind-y for my lazy soul. I can only haedcore grind my PC games, cant do sky grind ahaha 
Edit: but yeah, for any haedcore sky kids, there's the math. Hahaha
5 candles is hard cap for me too, life is grindy enough
When I'm relaxed I'll max out the daylight meter. That's about 15 candles. Then I go back to my 1 or 2 realms a day run 
Me who had to grind 15 candles per day for Postman last week: 
I'll be honest I buy the candle packs (hide)
Oh I sometimes feel tempted but I refuse to spend any more money in this game if I can avoid it, excluding Season Pass and one or 2 IAPs
Issokay, I judge me too
I'm just too tired most days to do hardcore runs though once in an odd month I'll run all realms and subrealms just to get a feel for a full candle run (25+/- candles).
It's alright, though, if you can afford to buy the packs, there's no problem for you to do it 
Again, life is already grindy, and we got the “adult power”, better put it to good use 
We need 5x Instant Recharge potions for 5 ascended candles or even 3, if we're to hope we can get up through crawling.
The insta recharge potion market is gonna explode in sales & demand, buyers beware of counterfeit recharge potions
capeless is an item for people who play sky religiously
personally i don’t like its existence and hope it never comes to live because that’ll just open up a new way to look down on others for not having capeless cape
Tell me about it. I burned through all the recharge pots I stockpiled in beta just to test the crawling mechanic.
I've sent this to feedback already but they should offer more potions or pots packs and not just the existing 1AC:1 recharge pot or 5 candles for 2 pots.
A good rule of thumb is to not care so much about what other people think. Enjoy the game the way you want to.
I’ve played Sky for 4 years and only got the cape just before the candle wipe this year (because of the candle bug last year).
How does capeless related to religion? I am curious.
Agreeing with blepati's statement, capeless is sort of achievable through glitching in Live so honestly if it were available by purchasing in Live, nobody would really care but they'd probably ask you if you got it legitimately or through glitches. That's assuming TGC fails to patch capeless glitches anyways.
It's a phrase, they don't mean it literally. It talks about players that play sky 24/7 and almost treat it like a religion, that you need to dedicate yourself to 24/7
I don't see the whole point in the demand for capeless anyways, and if it ever came to Live, then making it cost 999 hearts is pretty reasonable, or at least 500 hearts anyways. Just like tier 2 capes costing much more than their original counterpart, they're meant to be a gift of gratitude of friendship between your friends, signifying you have established bonds with them.
I think the point is that they meant in case the cape comes with its beta price of 999 hearts people would look down to people who havent
Why would they do that? I don’t get it. Actually, I don’t get why it matters to anyone if a stranger on the internet decides they are somehow better than you.
Tier 2 capes in general are meant to be long-term goals and completely optional for players hence why they're never required for Elder hair completion. It's meant as a challenge for players to work with. It's a challenge that the player must form more friendships and grow them as much as possible, I see the point TGC is trying to make with tier 2 capes. It's basically telling players to be social and form bonds with new and old players alike. Of course, both of you need to also be selfless to one another by offering your hard earned candles to each other. The game does a tremendous job of defining altruism overall by making things short term goals or long term goals everyone is working towards.
how could a tier 2 capeless even exist, what's the change
If TGC ever does decide to introduce capeless to live, it probably would need to be offered by an Elder, and they need to remove every possible method of capeless glitches to do so because it could cause big confusion to the playerbase. But going off what one dev said, it's unlikely they'd ever introduce capeless to live. But it's theoretically not impossible, either. As for a tier 2 of capeless, I would think maybe... glowing shimmering light particles?
It is already offered by an Elder.
I meant if they introduced it in Live, I know it's offered by an Elder in beta. But in beta, things are always subject to changes. But if they kept that, then yeah that would be reasonable.
it most likely won't even be coming to live anyway
That's unfortunate but it being a beta exclusive is pretty reasonable.
Also can you guys confirm something? Before the live update that introduced crawling, you could medium call to instantly make a crab aggro you. But I've noticed in this crawling update, medium calls no longer aggro a crab to attack you instantly. Is this intended now? I was going to use this as a method of distracting those shard crabs once the Shattering season starts in live, and I'd be trying various methods and strategies when it comes to cleansing the darkness of the shard events.
Baiting and distracting the shard crabs to myself while attempting to dodge each one via medium call was one of the strats I was trying to do and before the introduction of the crawl update in live, I used the medium call on regular crabs to make them instantly charge me and dodge as many as I could.
I'm super close to getting the first ultimate cape I'm super excited 
Y'all where today shard
fancy invisible border on the cape for 2997 hearts
Could you draw one for us, voi, please? I like the sound of the fancy invisible border, would love to see what it might look like ☺️
What lead you to the conclusion that players would want this over any other TS cosmetics and iAP ones? Everyone has different taste, not saying you're not wrong, but I just don't see how this would affect players in making iAP purchases, because as far as I'm aware in beta it's hearts only and if it were introduced that way, more players may buy candle packs in hopes to get some hearts from past season guides they missed, and/or trade with friends, because it requires so many candles. I'm not sure why it'd be held in such a high degree when it can also be used as a factor to buy candle packs should a player have the ability and funds to do so. That would more or less increase TGC's profit, no?
I disagree about wanting to collect cosmetics. Capeless would be very coveted but just like other coveted cosmetics people would switch up what they wear. Most people ik do that. The capeless cape would become another coveted cosmetic, but saying everyone who had it would only wear that feels a little like an exaggeration.
mfw i can be capeless in live just by making a new account and not picking up the first wl. get on my level /s
I agree with previous comments. Although yes the cape would be highly coveted and wanted its not like people will just decide they will never collect another cosmetic. Idk how long the person who imposed that idea has been playing for but Me personally. Yes i have preferred cosmetics, but i don't dress the same or use my favorite cosmetics 100% of the time.
I just wish they would allow you to be capeless, the game killing you because you lost your last wing doesnt make sense to me
But the wings are Sky kids' power, or the light associated with it. It makes sense we die when we lose it.
But we are born without one
Oh welll, at least weve been getting some small cape options
Yeah, I don't know. THere's no consistent lore in the game anyway.
While it's true sky kids were born without any wings at the beginning, it might not be the state of "having no wings" that gets them killed -- but more the fact they're forcibly ripped out of their body after they've been integrated for a while. You're definitely going to do someone damage if you implant an organ and then rip it out later, even if they weren't living with one before
You have flame, that's what's keeping you alive. Or at least, that's my perception of it. Once you get 1 winged light, you gain the ability to fly and also act as your energy/overall life remaining. The flame icon above your wedges represents the real energy keeping you alive, once that goes out, and you have no winged lights left, you die because there is no energy source keeping you alive any longer.
To add to this, capes don't have shadows in the real game, they're purely made of light, implying winged lights are literal light energy given to us by I guess dead Sky children, and it's our duty to deliver the winged lights to 63 of them in Eden. That part doesn't make sense either, cause if there were 105 statues in Eden, I can see that being justified.
No actually, if you let your last wing fall and light yourself up again, the game will say that you lost all your light as soon as that wing depletes.
And what do you mean by 105 statues in eden?
Ooh wait, i just realized, u refering to all the wings existing in the world as of right now. Apologies lol
What I mean is, when Sky kids are born, they only have their flame keeping them alive. The second they receive a winged light, their life is dependent on it, so even if you lose your last wing and you have your flame still ignited, your Sky kid will be unable to keep themselves alive because they have relied solely on one source of energy the whole time, the flame will no longer save them anymore.
What I meant is that there's 105 winged light in all realms excluding the one you get in Orbit, so if those winged lights were dead Sky children remnants that we were supposed to pick up and deliver through Eden, it would make more sense if there were 105 statues rather than 63.
Yeah, i guess thats just for gameplay purposes where its expected for you to lose some on the process, but makes sense.
They would have to add new statues in a bunch of updates tho 
Also... I'm not sure why in Eden point of no return, as soon as you lose your last wing, your Sky kid doesn't immediately die like in every other realm, but rather, take a moment to pass on and ascend.
because dramatic effect
I guess that makes sense, final stage of life and all.
Hi
Guys, i have to ask (since i lost the message in this channel). Which memories were the ones that had winged lights? i know the last one didn't and i believe the 1st one but I'm not sure
(Nvm, found it)
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Ok
Wow. Maybe glitter? Like the mantas in vault. Just glitter no border..
uh..windwall piercing table spell trick no longer works..? 
in crab and plants... In whale... In manta
thinking about how a lot of discussion on the days of rainbow iap were about the money going to charity but the only one that said there would be donations for was the double rainbow pack 😭 anyways any updates yet?
oh wait i can just check the playstore
kinda sad about only one seeming to donate though 
I‘ve been through gw now but couldn‘t find the shard 😒 Can anyone give me a hint please?
TGC usually only ever donates the proceeds from one IAP, we just happen to have a lot of IAP this year? Im unsure if they donate a portion of total proceeds towards charity or just the pack
no days of summer testing yet? 
Won’t be for awhile
Time for update.. 🙏😮💨
Anyone sinking on the Lost ark?
Ive never been wanting an beta update so bad, so curious about it
Hi, could I bother you and ask if you remember which realms they are associated to?
I’ve tried relieving every quest numerous times, but as we all know by know, it isn’t working.
The only memories I can seem to get are jellyfish, krills, whales and the diamond…
No. Sorry. It's random I think.
The crab was yesterday at village. But today in arc its the diamond.
Darn, I took one day off and missed the crab 
I am not liking the scheduled quests one bit. Thank you anyway 🙏
Did the elder protection hair persisted in live?
I don't think it's locked to a specific realm, not that long ago I completed a shard with a friend and we got different memories (could still see one another though) - they got krill while I got mantas
Hello Airi! Yes, that happened to me also, but I brushed it off as one of the numerous bugs… now I wonder…
Neither of us has seen the crabs since the very first quests though; I’m starting to wonder… where exactly was the event taking place yesterday?
- I should add that when that happened, my friend hadn’t received a “quest complete” at some point, so they were one quest behind me at the time
I have no clue, didn't log into beta yesterday - so far when I had stumbled upon shard events, it has been an actual stumble
Why is it all in English? I can't understand my English or keyboard.😩
This feature was removed as it was accidentally added at the start of shattering testing. Was removed after a few days 
@warped berry because mods can only moderate English chat and using translators when most the mods are on PC/Laptop make modding other languages (especially during active hours/reveal times - such as TS release) REALLY REALLY difficult
⚠️ some people are getting hacked!! If anyone is sent a link and told to go to “EXPOSED” server by DM from friend or stranger DO NOT SCAN A QR⚠️
I almost got hacked but I checked info on the “bot” that sent it and there was a warning that, that bot never sends QRs
Boatgirl popped a message in cozy that's pinned 
I’ll go look!
How many seasonal candles can you get a day from the bunchs on beta
20, 4 each realm
Is there some kind of guide for the seasonals in beta somewhere
No, they’re discouraged & get removed
The reasoning why guides are a no go in beta: How can we test how an uninformed player can find things if we follow fan made guides?
I keep missing one bunch in wasteland so I always end up with half a candle at the end
If you have trouble finding something in beta, it's good to leave #beta-feedback so TGC knows they hid something too well for the average player to find.
I finally found out they hid one of the seasonals under the ice in valley recently 
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Would one still able to get all the stuff in the light memory trees with the amount of time we (supposedly) have left of the season testing?
The second half of shattering is pretty much confirmed, so i don't think there's any rush to finish the season 
I mean a second half of shattering doesnt exactly means we getting more days to complete tho
I was doing the shards and almost lost so many wl
second half being only a week long seems exactly like shattering's style 
No i mean, we dont need the season to test the stuff i think 
There will be no more new cosmetics for the pass so i guess not
why would it have shattering in the name then 
Cause its part of it still 
I think maybe they want it to end so we can test how stuff will work after it ends on live?
But idk im just saying, they will most likely add more days
But better not risk if you want the items on beta 
I kinda wish we got a light themed mask and not just one mask
I hope we get an item or two from the guide's tree
there aren't many light mask ideas that would fit the theme tbh
aside from a whale mask, ofc, tgc please
I just don't have any masks on my beta account that would match the theme. what mask would match with the light themed items
I've been wearing forgetful storyteller's mask from performance for my jelly prince outfit, and fortune's bull mask as more of a general light outfit
Tbh, just the base game masks would probably work 
I quit live for like 2 years so I missed 6 or so seasons and most of the days of so I don't have alot
Just wait till anniversary hat is out people: cosplay techno while crying totally not me
Is it a crown
Hey everyoneee, I'm attempting to make some sort of rough map of where shard events take place!! Could anyone who has pictures and rough details of where in the map it is DM me a photo and a word description (if possible) of where it was thanks in advance!! (please @ me if you can't DM me I think you should be able to) :p
just wanna comment, too many red crabs for the shards... i dun even see a normal crab now.. orz... so pain even for ark .. 10++ crabs all gang up against me to collect the shards sighs...
testing my connection
hello, and sorry if this is a wrong chat but i wanted to ask if there is still time in sky when eden doesn’t explode in the season. it’s that while i appreciate the more grim and mysterious season i still love the calming atmosphere of the game and i’m wondering if that changes. PLEASE let me know if this is the wrong chat i will move it :)
The explosion is only at certain times its quicker in beta but it will take longer in live
Hello. Does anyone know where do the Eden shard fall today in golden wasteland. I am not able to find them TIA
I ate it 
Also when is season of shattering getting released on Live version?
11th July, if im not wrong
Hello, how many winglight available in season of shattering?
I've seen 2 so far, one in a memory with mantas and one hidden with fish
3 i think from quest 2,quest 3,and quest 5
Do we have to redo quests to gain back the wing lights in this season?
In the ark
After you completed all the quests, they are random. So you gotta do multiple to get the one you need
That's gonna be extremely annoying for those who need the WL!
i think i might just skip those winged lights
Is the shard event today only at the Ark?
Just double checking, couldn't find any others!
Seems to be only in the ark
I and some others will be getting 200 wl in live during the season, and we’ll probably have to get those wl to keep the 12 wings. If you’re one of us then you might have to choose either to suffer or not have 12 wings 😭😭
i choose not have 12 wings
i'll do those quests for the season but thats about it
Fair enough
Could anyone send screenshots from 3rd anniversary event? Couldn’t find any in #beta-screenshots-videos, the latest stuff is just shards
You can just look it up on youtube
you can search it up in discord just by typing
in:#beta-screenshots-videos 3rd anniversary
its a very good search function that no one uses ever
Posting for confirmation/corrections:
Known Shard Locations --
Prairie: Entrance (muffin rock area), Cave, Temple, Sanctuary (turtle island), Birds Nest, Sanctuary (main island)
Forest: Treehouse, Brook, Grandma's area, Boneyard (beneath tower), Entrance
Valley: Frozen lake (before entrance to sliding race), Village (near Dreams guide), Hermit valley
Wasteland: Entrance (facing dock/boat to the ark), Graveyard, Battlefield, Shipwreck, Ark (scarecrow's field)
Vault: Starlight Desert (greedy merchant's shipwreck), Starlight desert (by the rose)
[Pings okay for edits to this list] thanks, fam 
the shard event is every 30 minutes and starts at reset right?
and is the event then in every realm or is it like daily quest every day another realm/location?
The shards are only found in one realm each day but all realms show the animation for eden exploding.
ah okay thank you!
wait how do we enter the area after the season ends?
sorry didn't do any quests in beta from this season or played the season
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Is the ultimate umbrella available in sky beta? I see a sus memory candle I'm thinking of reporting
the purple one is possible few players have it iirc
but the blue one isn't possible
Bit late so hope this is ok but I think you are missing:
Prairie bird's nest( red shard/AC)
Forest entrance ( black shard/wax)
Starlight desert by the rose (black shard/wax)
Oh thanks, edited the list and added these 
It falls somewhere in the Starlight desert
Maaan I know there's a bit of a love/hate relationship with Shattering but I've been putting off playing since the season really started and am just familiarizing myself with it now. I'm having more fun in Sky than I've had in months? A year? I love the difficulty spike
Soloing these shard events gives me life! I know the challenge is definitely not for everyone but I'm having a ton of fun!
I do miss spirits but I like the fact that they're trying something new with how seasons work. A bit of a miss for me in terms of the questline/memories but I like the seasonal hub a lot and I hope we can visit again after the season ends!
sorry if this isn't allowed but does anyone have a list of the season of shattering cosmetics with images somewhere, preferably also showing what is ap locked and what isn't
i need to decide if i want the pass or not and i cant find a complete list of the cosmetics for some reason

I ate it 
I find that there are definitely parts of it that are interesting and fun in the sense that they are different to what we've ever had in the game. But I'm not finding any cohesiveness in the concept. Granted, they did say it wouldn't be like a season at all.
But then I also don't understand why they made it into a season in the first place...
The word ' season ' means something changing over time on a theme in games and in life. Shattering just didn't feel like that. More like an event that stays as it is like geyser
Or even just a big game mechanics change. I think most people are used to and will expect seasons being story-driven.
When eden get eruption?
Thank youuu
!er
The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1656831600:F> (In 21 hours 51 minutes 8 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.
Or did you mean shards?
YESSSSSSSSSS, agreedd, as much as early testings been, it's been super fun throughout the season, with fewer bugs regarding shards and the voids it's made stuff interesting. The new methods for wax, interesting cosmetics, TGC showing off what they can do with large open spaces it's really interesting, and I really can't wait for it to drop to live, even if we have next to no lore/storyline as much as we'd all hoped... There's always the Collab and the season afterwards to look forward to... Along with all the upcoming events to look forward to as well, alongside seeing familar faces from the likes of Dreams, Assembly, LP (hopefully) and maybe even a splash of Flight too for upcoming TS' !!!
@hollow compass they did
I mean shard
Some people get eden eruption(shard eruption) in live sky, is it true?
Yes it's true, it's a small visual thing that happens very rarely but yes it's true
I see, thank you
Hey, Beta testers, does anyone have any ideas about how TGC will schedule shards seasonal quest in the live version?
Only thing we know is that it starts frequently and slows down over the season
I'm... gonna have to be more careful about when I do quests
I've been leaving them to the last minute in live recently and that's not going to work well if there's a shard daily that day
Reminder guys, it's best keeping beta stuff out of pfps and banners for the sake of not spoilering people 
Take care beta chat 
I wish they'd let us buy more recharge potions for AC. It's ironic that pots are stackable in our inventories but we can only buy 1 measly pot every so often. Since the shards give AC rewards now, a little adjustment to the purchase options won't hurt the economy (not like this is an mmorpg known for its economy anyway), imo it'll balance out the surplus currencies just fine. <already sent
on it, just ranting out loud>
See, the insta recharge market is booming
"Welcome weary traveller, fancy a drink that instantly recharges your energy? No? I insist, SoSh is coming you're gonna need it" 
I think its the changes are interesting, the crawling is not that bad, even tho it has its issues, its not like we are crawling on half of our playtime.
I also liked that they removed the deep call lighting players back, that was literally taking off the only challenge the game had lol
I think deep calling should still be able to recharge to an extent, just because eden is particularly punishing when you are trying to help newer players.
Maybe it doesnt fill up as many wedges as before (or it just gives then enough to not be extinguished) and doesn’t help recharge your own wing like relighting an extinguished player does.
I carried a moth to eden yesterday and i had to decide if helping them was worth me potentially crawling and losing most of my wings because obviously they dont fully understand.
I think if it do something , it could at least help the shards on the crawling sky kids body to break faster and then taking them off the crawling mode
are the shattering events supposed to happen in live? the eden mountain is red, i'm currently in prairie caves and my screen just started violently shaking
I dont know how easy it would be to implement a “cooldown” between being relit by a call. So you cant be charged with further calls you would need a light source for a specified amount of time.
It would keep most of the challenge but not punish people (especially in eden) for helping new players.
the one application of being lit back by a candle cannot work is (and i know this is a very specific situation that won't happen 99% of the time but it happened to me once one day)
is if you fall in the oil ocean far from the shoar in golden wasteland
since you can't pull out your candle while swimming, your only way out was if someone came to hover above you with a honk, but now you're better off quitting the game and logging back up
also I'd like to point out than since the patch came out, i've been and seen other players get in trouble in golden wasteland and each time that i went to help that person, everyone in the area rushed to help that player as well, which surprised me a little but, not in a bad way 
the pop up notification letting people know someone is in danger is really nice
I'm going to submit feedback soon on #live-feedback about what options the players are limited to when injured to a crawl. My idea, as I've said before here, is simple: make a user interface on the top of the screen near the wing/star icon that indicates a selection of potions available for use, so that way when are down, you're not spending extra time going through the emote menu, to the spells section, then needing to find that dang potion. Likewise, we also need 5 instant recharge potions for 3 or 5 ascended candles because lord knows we'll need it.
i've taken a habit to get at least one recharge potion since i started playing the game whenever i would go to the forgotten ark so i have a good amount stored up but you're right, the current amount you can obtain daily is too low.
I'm not sure why buying spells is limited at all (because most of them really don't do anything special), except to not let people waste all their candles on them idk 
I just submitted my feedback, I can only hope TGC considers it, I know it will be read, but I know it will need extra work to implement the feature, so I'm not sure if they'll consider it or not. There's so much feedback going around that even the best ones and ones that do get the devs talking, may or may not make the cut to the final game.
Instant Recharge Potions have become such a necessity now, and it's a big brain move to get players to buy candle packs probably to buy them, so why not make there be one that has 10 recharge potions for like 15 candles because they're now necessary due to being knocked to a crawl. It's basically a good idea.
i mean, it would sound like a no brainer to me
You'd think, right? 
buy all the recharge potions 
now imagine if you could make a delivery from the ark to a spirit somewhere else and get retribution with recharge potions or something
that'd be sweet but mostly wishful thinking xD
Wait so is the 5th quest confirming that the bones GW graveyard is whales or
i don't know about confirmation but the bones sure are whale size-ish
The call that you get there is called the whale call, so I would assume so.
isn't that call from forest?
though to be fair they could be the same creature either way nevermind xD
Oh, wait I misread. Please ignore.
It's the mother krill maybe.
she's a proud mom 😤
hi, how to be b tester?
ok ty.
Beta invites are random on an as needed basis, pretty sure it says in beta FAQ so best reading there and checking pins for stuff
Anyone know where the vault shard will be
LP area, either by the rose or by the jelly cove 
Question in general as I have no props in beta, are there any props that DON'T work for the krill barrier thingy? 
Thanks :)
Also pain is returning after a break only to see 6 days left of beta season
Lmao I just want the manta ult cape at least
I only need one more day till I can get the ultimate manta cape the jelly cape is 42 candles but I can get like 20 a day
you can get up to 25 seasonals in beta per day
okay, thanks.
I hope it will more simply taping the a button rapidly to get up.
You should see in #eden-spoilers to see how frustrated I am, but yet, it feels rewarding to take bigger risks than before.
Crystal event that gives AC was a good thing in the end, because it makes Eden no one going for it. Because it makes New player afraid. Even veterans would afraid lose the wings too quick. They was an attempt to force player's coop. Because in coop with your friends and good communication gives better rewards
when doing the ac shards the amount of ascended candles you receive will decrease if someone else is helping you. you don’t receive the same amount (i.e. it’s better to do them solo than with others)
I think the minimum is still like 2 AC per shard event though, isn't it? Even if others are helping you. So it can still be nice for players who maybe only need a few for the TS or something, although it's still not a full replacement for Eden
I dont think its good that you need recharge potions for eden. I think they need to add more cover or at least some more statues at the very end.
Went in with 157 and couldn’t make it to the final statue and i used 2 instant charge
I think the devs are trying to discourage weekly eden runs and encourage completing shards.
The only point in eden (for lower wing count players) is actually getting buffs/elder ultimates at this point.
It’s 4 AC if I recall correctly
Hii! Please, where is the dark plant of today located?
I've done all vault and didn't see anything. Also I have to do the 3rd quest but haven't found the dark plant 
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Saw it at the Little Prince area.StarDesert.
quick question: ppl who seem to walk on their knees are always hackers?
Usually, not always, it doesn’t hurt to report, if they weren’t nothing will happen to the account
I saw someone today who always had the hug icon on them to click on and I couldn't tell if it was a glitch or something else
ok ty for the reply. I usually come across moths in beta that are walking on their knees but nothing suspicious other than that. so i would just keep the reporting for more confirmed cases of hacking.
They’re wearing the chibi mask on their end
that's a hacker for sure, i came across a person who offered me hug and then bearhug and had anniversary cannon already
edit: in live version
They were also doing other friend emotes I do have the person in one of my screenshots
so far we just have a pin for piggyback afaik
Recently i am seeing more of such ppl in live a lot. like every other day but then we aren't allowed to talk about it here
Hey, I have a small question about the season. After doing the first quest the area changes. Where can we access the "spirits"(calling them spirits for simplicity) and their trees to buy the cosmetics after the realm changes? Since it looks like they dissapear.
if u go home and teleport through the quest giver, u cud access the seasonal area with cosmetics trees
Ah, thank you! 
Nope! Back last year they offered a themed Box of Dreams which came with a Bearhug pin. And i have it 
thnks for confirming, i wasn't sure
Np!
Random question, what is the average amount of ac you can get from shard explosion events?
In beta, the consensus was 2-4 AC per red shard event. This number may be different in the live version of the game.
Alrighty thank you!!
2-3. I’ve never gotten 4.
I've gotten 4 on the last ark shard, but idk if that's that shard's thing, or is it because I did it completely solo 
i got 1 in prairie this week

@iron elbow Same, 4 ACs when i did ark shards solo
Those shards are going to be a nightmare to document for guides
Is that rhythm mask in ur pfp?

i thought u are enchantment moth 
I joined in Lightseekers
I don’t understand how the game decides how many to give and they haven’t told us at all. A lot of players are going to be unhappy.

tgc making players confused and mad seems to be the theme for the past... year
It again comes down to "if we aren't on discord then the SoS will be 2× confusing"
I am happy they sent patch notes for 0.18.0 in live using inbox, i hope it is used more frequently to explain things. A lot of players don't have discord
Only 2x confusing? There is no in game hint at all which area in a realm the shards might fall, the frequency or timing of the shards. Without a fan made guide, no one in game would know when these shards happen and they're required for the quests. At least for the table of belonging or other social light areas, you don't have to be there during an event to complete a seasonal quest or daily. I would say at least 10x more confusing for players who aren't in any Sky social media circles.
This. And the devs had said nothing to anything. It’s a major disappointment.
I can already imagine shattering moths running around the entire world of sky, only to miss the eruption window at the shard's realm, and being utterly confused on what exactly are they supposed to find
I'm glad I started looking through beta chat because I bet that if I hadn't, when the season starts I would have been extremely confused 🥲
the first thing live players will do is yelling at the giga crabs 
My wording on that died but u get the point 
Hoping to see some balance updates and maybe even new event(s) next week or the other one ahead
You need to constantly cut off your internet if someone joins💀
My internet already does that for me 
If tgc would just allow us to redo shard events until we get the 4 ac max we wouldn't have to worry about figuring out how to most efficently get as many ac as possible since we can only be rewarded once per shard area 
Wait so even when there are two shard areas you can get 4 ac per shard?
Lol i feel like something is wrong with my wifi i almost never see anyone at the shards unless we joined the area together from the start of the realm
This season wouldn’t have made sense to me at all without this chat and some basic info that patch notes gave us. We were told that the shards fall every 30 min, and then others shared what their experience is in here. I think it would be impossible for a moth to figure this season out by themselves even if they started at the very beginning. Normally, moths don’t even get getting wl or collecting wax right from the start. There’s a moth that follows me in live, that speaks some kinda alien language and even that rarely, that doesn’t know what candles do, after a month in game. Every time I adopt a moth I explain to them what a season is, what spirits are, what sc are, and what the dailies and seasonal quests are. That’s for a normal season where it’s pretty clear. This season’s quest prompt is as vagus as it could be. Seek a memory in a kingdom of sky???? What? Even me a 2 year vet was having a hard time with that description. I had to have known ahead of time that it’s about burning the shards. This season is impossible for moths to finish it solo. But I guess the point of this game is to play it with friends who’ll explain things to you. However not every moth is that fortunate
I see people merge sometimes. It’s just beta and live are pretty empty these days because seasons have come to an end in both
Merges will happen much more easily on the shards compared to beta, at least if the servers works properly, recently i feel like merging is barely working on live
"Alien language"
lol
The stuff they put in the chat are not words 
dropped by to see if there's anything new happening in beta but I see no update and the shards are as broken and stressful as ever, I honestly haven't played beta aside from hopping on to light friends when I get a chance since the update went to live, I feel like I don't have anything further to add in terms of feedback until something new comes cause aside from complaining about the same issues over and over I just ??? don't know what else to say ???
Yea i literally have seen like 5 people and three of those were on the first one i did lol i think theres just enough shards in a day that everyones so spread out i dont see anyone if i play at weird times i guess
It always ends up being the grandma shards that I never merge at 
No communication from the devs is very disheartening to a game that is supposed to be fun and friend oriented.
And I know it’s Saturday. I don’t mean today. I mean all the days before today. Crickets. Nothing.
They were pretty responsive a few days ago but didn't really confirm anything about changes to the season just that theres more to it
Definitely could use a lot more communication tho
I feel exactly the same. Aside from trying (unsuccessfully) to catch the right memories to get those (short lived) WL, I see no point in repeating the torture over and over.
As for feedback, I’ve made my point.
It’s still broken.
…
…….
I literally drew from memory of the new cosmetics to relize I added extra hair points to one of the new shattering hairs 😔 although it looks nice
The lack of communication wouldnt bother me so much if so much of it was concern for new players and for people with medical stuff like epilepsy and there being no flash warnings for this season
They havent even told us if theres a plan for the flashing yet as far as i know and thats pretty concerning considering the season is right around the corner for live
Honestly one of the bugs where the krills flash between red and blue at times makes me surprised there hasn’t been a case of tgc getting sued for no warning
I tried going back to old memories to get WL by interacting with them via the guide and then going to do the shard quest and meditating but I still just go back to the final memory so I don't think I'll be getting those WL anytime soon, maybe I should go feedback that, but as for anything else I don't have anything more to say.
Is it natural to feel so despondent as a tester? I started off really excited but I've lost a lot of energy and motivation and it's not like I play beta daily, I do have burnout in general when it comes to sky and I'm not sure if it's from let downs in beta or from the let down in the whole grind atmosphere sky has become with constant high price ts and events, but I'm just overall just fed up and idk if anybody else is feeling the same because of beta specifically or just in general?
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Yea there isnt a setting for it at all either like i could understand not having warnings if you could just turn off bright lights or something
Exactly smh 🤦♀️
Theres supposed to be another update for shattering so maybe there is some hope that theyll actually consider safety
They already got their warehouse burnt one sue and that’s gonna be a bigger issue
And being told things like REaD tHe pAtCH nOtEs doesn’t help at all, quite frankly.
It’s supposed to be a family game. An inclusive game.
Yet somehow, if you don’t know your way around Discord, you will go months without understanding half the game.
Grandma won’t read the patch notes. Lil’ Tommy won’t read the patch notes.
There legit could be a child with epilepsy and have a seizure and that moms gonna be like “WELL I CAN STILL CHARGE YOU BECAUSE U DIDNT PUT A WARNING IN THE GAME”
Every game I know that has flash has a warning inside the game! It’s literally illegal not to in most areas
The advertisements don’t have any warning either I’ve literally watched every signal one no warning on tik tok or YouTube
They just slap that advertisement and be like “money is more valuable than someone’s safety “
And TGC is the only company I know that makes its game more taxing on the visual and nervous system rather than less, after receiving countless feedback to that effect.
I seriously couldn’t believe the thickness of the red fog, especially in Wasteland. I’m like “Oh, I get it, you just don’t give a damn”. That, for me, is the sort of thing that leads to burnout. The game breaking, known flaws that never get fixed.
first I thought it was sus they made a hudge ad AFTER the ocean cape and shell necklace and all, now that I’m realizing tgc has noticeably stopped caring about things like warnings and problematic issues and shown that they are now corrupted by cash! Like look at the shattering season tasks!! “Oh you’ll love this season EVEN THO ITS THE SAME TASKS and no cutscenes after we just slapped on some models Yw!”
They wanted to bring something new and amazing but it just feels so rushed and meaningless
Reading ALL OF THESE COMMENTS fills me with some type of unknown Rage.
SoSh makes me so disappointed
It's difficult to keep any sort of attachment to sky when it's become so repetitive and unfriendly to photosensitive users 
I wonder if there's a better way to flag these issues than in the feedback channels where it gets lost amongst other stuff, I know Sago passes our feedback to the devs working on the season but surely there is someone else outwith the team who should be working on the health and safety side of things and making sure sky complies with standards which include making sure flashing lights etc. are included in warnings?
Honestly it makes me feel like this is like the ace family from YouTube “we are gonna help the community in donation!” And steal half the cash afterwards
Anyone reading my name and silently agreeing...?
Edit: I knew it. This game was gonna die at one point...
I hope the people who play on live get just as upset about this as we did in beta just so they know that they should actually change some of the stuff we have been complaining about for so long
I don't think from 6 responses you can conclude sky is about to die, there's hundreds of thousands of players who still enjoy it
I've a feeling it will be better received than we think but I still agree this beta testing period could have been handled better
I remember when we begged them to fix the problem with the prince season because people would force to be in a different server and tgc straight up said “no”
Yea but honestly i dont think it should be, not to like invalidate anyones feelings on the season but it could be genuinely harmful for some players and they havent put warnings
There's a lot of people in live channels that seem really excited for the season and I know at least some of those have seen beta spoilers so they know what's in store and usually the ones who are worried are mainly because they've heard us lot complaining 
I think there's bound to be people with the same concerns that we've had here though, and tgc should definitely address the issues of flashing lights etc. before the season begins in live or they're risking a lot if they don't
I had even read some of the comments on the app you can see people have issues like “losing their account forever even tho they have proof they paid for these items” “not being able to play with others because of how laggy it is”
Is it too much of a wish for TGC staff to say something about the topic that is being talked about on this channel? I want to hear TGC's opinion
Lol i remember seeing a comment where someone was complaining the game needed wifi because they thought it wasnt multiplayer
Some devs did address issues the other day, but I really think the issues should be addressed officially and not just when some of the team happen to be passing by - the known issues channel definitely needs to be used more in both live and beta capacity

No they probably don’t even care to be honest and honestly I have a feeling they be like “let’s ban these people rq so nobody speaks the truth
“
But I could be wrong
Yo, Devs! If anyone's lurking, can y'all say hi or somethin'?
This is off topic and probably a dumb question lol but what is that emoji of?
A dead skid it's me looking at #beta-discussion
Ohhh ok that makes more sense lol i dont even know what i was thinking my brain just kept telling me it couldn't be a winged light hahah
And dying Hope.
At this rate, one day people will be tired of Sky and leave! There's already quite a few people leaking
Fr now I know why veterans leave 😔
I'm excited for this season no matter how bad it is and this chat just makes me sad sometimes
They're definitely not going around banning people for criticising them, like I just said a moment ago there's been multiple devs who have dropped by especially after the live announcement the other day to address some concerns, but again I think there needs to be something done internally on their end so they better communicate their dealings with the issues that are majorly concerning for people's health, ability to play, etc. like I understand not addressing certain bugs immediately or not giving us a step by step of everything they're currently working on, but something needs changing
@chilly wigeon try not to feel too disheartened by the opinions shared here, everybody will view their experiences differently and you may well really enjoy the season, there's plenty of testers who have had positive things to say too, but vocally the negative tends to be seen a lot more because we're repeating frustrations that aren't being addressed appropriately
It would be a dream come true if they actually did something about it 
I am sure there are staff at TGC who care. We have to keep in mind, there are staff able to speak on behalf of the company and others who will have to find another job if they do speak on the behalf of the company.
And I'm STILL CONSIDERING it.
It's just the people saying everything about the season is bad and acting like it's the end of sky as we know it
I hope TGC will announce and deal with the topics that have been mentioned a lot in beta feedback. Current state, It makes me feel as if the TGC doesn't really care about feedback, even though tries to remind me that devs are working hard in the dark.
Precisely this, I think when devs do drop by they try to acknowledge stuff to the best of their abilities, but not all of them are in a position to officially comment (and some don't even know or have the answer cause it's not their current focus of work) - that's why I firmly believe, having their testers recruited through their discord and all, that they should make sure they do have someone(s) who are in a position to make official comments on important issues that we raise.
Considering the time it has been since the last actual update, there might be some big amount of changes coming soon
honestly it sucks too that their pushing payments up your nose as well when we all are litterly going into the depression stage, 20 bucks for one item is unreal
I dont think id have any problem with the season at this point if they just made a warning or a setting about photosensitivity im definitely still disappointed with how monotonous it feels tho
I guess I'll just wait for the next update to make or break the season
Theres supposed to be more to shattering and they're working on the update but they haven't shared any details on whats in it or when we will get it or even if itll happen before shattering makes it to live
unless the collab season is good i feel like sky really will go downhill. the way they originally treated DoR without thinking 'hmm maybe this is a bad idea' for example
It wont happen before it hits live, we need to test it first, we probably gonna have 25-35 of shattering on live as it is in beta rn
Definitely doubt it's the end of sky, for people that don't enjoy this season, I definitely imagine future seasons and events will come that they do enjoy and vice versa. We all won't like everything tgc put out and naturally with this being something different than what we're all used to with seasons, it's understandable that there's a lot of more outspoken dismissal. But again, I don't think it'll mean the end of sky even if it does end up being a badly received change in live also - tgc have been open about trying something new to try and address previous feedback they've had and I guess at the moment (health issues not pertaining) it's like marmite, some love it and some don't
Shattering will likely be tweaked and adjusted in live
Mayday🚨 next to Gayday
Every time i read someone saying that sky is going to die i give a little chuckle, we just come out from an S tier season 
Takes more than a bad season to kill off a game
It’s not really the season being bad it’s the epilepsy issue
They do have to do something about the lighting stuff, the grandma shard blinds me
Some of the shards are hard to find in all the red fog too i think theres a lot of visual stuff they need to work out
Actually I’ll give you guys an issue as well I had recently gotten my eyes checked and my eyesight has gotten worse and I’ve been playing sky for most of the days so yes the light is a hudge issue
I know several games that deserve to die that haven't yet, so I'm not too concerned about sky ending if this season is received badly
I'm more so just fed up of the grinding issue currently and I was expecting more from this season, but I know that other events and seasons will probably give me what I feel is lacking here, so I'll just wait and see.
Again the health concerns need seriously addressing before the season begins in live but I don't know if they're working on it or have already made any adjustments, I guess we won't know until it starts. This is why tgc need to communicate better.
Same
Yes unfortunately even the season that arrives to live will have some small tweaks that beta hadn't seen in the last moments and if not then those small fixes will come soon enough. I do hope the lighting issue is better in live than it was in beta.
i understand the concerns ppl have here but thr game is literally about "light" and darkness.
TGC atleast communicate with the players. not 100% everytime but they do.
I haven't seen any other game's devs do even that much tbh.
I've had a few complaints abt the season and most of them were bugs.
I don't see SoS to be flop or anything. I liked the season. There cud have been a little more lore but it isn't totally bad.
Sometimes i just feel og opinions are less but influenced opinions are much more.
I don't wanna say it's not sky, cause idk, but also staring at screens daily will have an impact on your eyesight, so it's not necessarily sky's fault per se, but may just be a result of daily screen use - my eyes get real bad if I don't wear my glasses with specific frames to counteract blue light
Well yeh not fully sky’s fault but the brightness is somewhat a issue as well
At best those who leave may just come back after the season
Perhaps
I just want a bloom slider in settings and a dark mode for load screens so I don't get flashbanged every time I load into a realm
I'd definitely recommend fiddling with your own device's settings because there may be some that you can adjust to help limit further damage or sensitivity - it may affect your gameplay at first, but after a while you should adjust to it. I don't know how feasible it is for tgc to add specific adjustable/toggleable options for all light settings, but if they're gonna stick with the rave shards (less so than they were originally but they're still quite bad for those who have serious health concerns) then they need need need to add official warnings if they can't adjust them!
Also take breaks often to rest your eyes and stay hydrated, naturally we should all do this as much as possible because self care and all! Take care everybody

I had a weird theory that is a stretch, but bear with me
What if there were cutscenes TGC is working on but haven’t released in beta yet because they’re done separately and are kept as a surprise due to spoilers being leaked (YouTube especially)
do me a favour and drop into every tgc employees dreams and convince them this is a thing so we actually get it 
I hope Orbit gets tweaked more because I remember the place having this sharp contrast of blue and white, but now most of the time the area looks like there’s a lot of hazy purple fog, especially when looking at the constellations. It’s hard to see them
Not everyone agrees with that sentiment, for sure. I always enjoy a break from the usual while building on core mechanics and still letting players find out things on their own. Nevertheless a lot of the feedback is valid, especially when health and safety are concerns.
just be sure to not get disappointed by your own expectations and then blame TGC for it since theres staff that already mentioned there not being plans for cutscenes 
The orbit was always kinda weird and the LP update made it worse with some weird pink lighting in some areas lol
I like the pink 
It’s hard to see the constellations because they look like they blended into the pink haze
I enjoy the pink lighting but it can be kinda jarring when you don't expect it, I honestly just think some of the bright white light (is this what people call bloom?) needs to be like turned down, can someone show tgc the dimmer switch?
Problem isnt the pink itself for me, its how the lighting changes every step your camera moves aha
I miss the dark blue and white ambience
The shine glare effect on the spirits are too much for me. So many stretched lines and when the spirits leave in a certain ending of a season, they’re not even trails of light, just spikes
I have nice expectations for the second part of shattering , considering i am pretty ok with what we have so far. I hope they work on the flashy lighting issues
I think some of the issues are device specific? does this mean tgc needs to work more on optimisation across the board?
You would think that after the manta emerged from the water from that one cutscene, there would be manta flying around, which would have been useful when flying above water, but I was disappointed for the rest of the season
I feel like the beta chat has been full of reflecting on the lighting issues and lack of story but gotta admit the concept and cosmetics are pretty neat atleast
This. Flashing lights warnings or not, my eyesight is still going downhill for all the darkness blackness, not to mention the migraines. If it were just me; but many friends are saying the same.
We’re
Suffering
I wonder if the shards were intended to snipe you when burning plants
Uhhh I'm sure we had it on good authority (Wes) that they were of a similar design to missiles being dropped???? Lemme see if I can find the actual message if I can 
I found it, correction, he used to work on military simulations and I guess he implemented some of that expertise with this shard event
#beta-discussion message
That Wind Paths entrance had a lighting change. I’m not sure if it was a bug or something in the programming that went wrong or if it’s related to the season
I miss Wes in beta, I wish we had more of his chaos to consume here but maybe after implementing the missile shards he hasn't had much else to do with the season 
Bloom is basically that effect where white cosmetics are like super radiant in daytime lighting. Bloom is supposed to be used to show that something is really bright from camera pov but its kinda bonkers in Sky
Grandma areas had the characters glowing like the sun even tho there was a lot of shadows, thankfully it was fixed with the abyss lighting changes i think
Ik you didn't say it was the only effect, but I want to clarify for others reading that bloom isn't just white cosmetics; the white cosmetics are the best way absolutely to see it in action, but you can see it with yellow capes and other stuff as well. it's just the way light causes a color bleed off of objects, clothes, etc. Skyrim had a bloom filter you could adjust iirc and it just took the color bleed from the sun shining on them and made it less intense.
Yes! The new butterfly hair accessory is a good example
Why is there so many moths in beta recently it seems like moths with 2-3 stars are everywhere
Is the season complete? Or is there a chance that the live release will bring something new?
There's still the second half
The 0.18.5 update may bring something new for the season according to devs.
No moths, just people losing a bunch of stars from the crabs. 
if people actually get hurt from the lighting without a warning there's the potential for tgc to get into legal trouble

I hope they bring a new event that dont cause much mess on a area to keep it after the season ends togheter with the shards, i dont like the idea of the shards falling less frequently when the season ends, would make it dificult to grind it
Someone might say most of us overreact, but we just give feedback before the problem gets out of hand. That's the role of beta users...
But... already spilled water, there's not much time left, and I'm just sorry for the shattering moth.
Traumatizing moths since July 2022 
Did shards with a random person today and our wl went flying. No worries because we can always find them again. Love getting ascended candles this way instead of having to go to eden. The thing that made me sad today was the 4 player door. There were two of us waiting and two people glitched in to do spirit instead of helping.
Omg when season of shattering comes out I’ll get 200 WL
unless there’s new TS before then 
12 wings will look ugly 
Was there just a beta wave that I wasn’t aware of? Where are all of these new moffs coming from? I just encountered like 5 tonight.
Why?
idk 10 or 11 looks clean but i guess 12 will hurt my eye 😂
Were you just attempting to do that not too long ago? I apologize if I was one of them. There was no one around when I glitched in.
Strictly speaking, what you saw isn't entirely impossible to do in the normal game: if you give yourself an instrument with a temporary spell, and keep playing it even when the spell runs out, you'll appear to be playing whatever prop you were holding before the spell transformation -- and in the case of nothing, you'd probably appear to be playing thin air
I’m autistic and not having an even amount of wing buffs makes my eye twitch lol I need my 12! I’m only on 170 right now though.
No, this was earlier and there were two of us and two of them. I understand glitching when you are alone and no one is there. This was just an example of when there would be four of us needed to open something and two of us were actually there waiting and they glitched right in front. No worries in that we are so far along in the season we don’t need the candles but I just wish people were more considerate
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here
Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!
This wasn’t the case. It was a new moth, hands over the head and then had the piano. 3 stars on their back. I know temp spells are possible, but this “moth” just started.
ohww okay then is 200 for you much better
but for me with my kinda perfectionism it looks not right with 12 wings 😂
I agree and I’m sorry they did that. It happens to me too and it’s so rude. If I do glitch in and then realize someone is waiting, I come back out and help. I wish everyone would.
Me too!
That really is. So they aren’t really hackers? I get so confused. I try to always report them. Just play fair like everyone else.
I report them - if there is the odd case they aren’t a hacker, I’m sure TGC can easily figure it out
this happend one time in forest underground door
a chibi glitched over and over while i waited there until i used chibi spell and did myself
why do people need to be extra rude like kjgfaklgholrgh i wish those people nothing good 
question, did they get rid of the elder hair protection feature ?
I can see why you would say that. Would 13 be better for you? It’s going to take me a while to get it too. 😩
It's a bug, not a feature. Been patched.
They went to the hair salon and fixed it. Too much hair spray
That was a bug.
I’ve encountered a lot of players that are just selfish and rude like that. I’m sorry you experience that. I wish everyone would help to work together. And it’s only in beta I encounter this. Hardly ever in live.
wah idk ig until 15 i will stay with 11 or 10 haha i have around 180 to 190 wings idk i never collect all
in both but yes beta is way more meaner then live
and then there is me who flys back if i see someone needing help 😂
honestly i wouldnt complain if chibi glitching was patched
or if chibi mask was made more expensive because i’m pretty sure being able to clip oob with it is intentional
being able to clip with chibi mask is absolutely unintentional, its more like... its just much easier to clip through things when your avatar is smaller in size. thats just kinda how it works with 3d games
Wha I saw in Screenshot channel just 2 ac? For this trouble? Not worth it. I couldn't do it either because no one there no server merge.
Honestly, when this gets in live, I’ll find it a lot more convenient. If youre low on ac for a ts, instead of having to spend all your wl for lots of ac and go through the trouble of getting it all back, its nicer when there are convenient shards that instantly give you ac without rebirth! Not to mention i dont want to touch the crawling mechanic in live.. ever 
rhats just my opinion though :D
taking into account that beta only has thousands of players VS live having millions, your experience will definitely be different come the live version update
You'll be touching that anyway, since you will be attacked by very aggressive crabs for the AC quests.
crabs can’t get me if im in the air 
I am alone why no one in my server?😭😭😭😭
Beta is generally an empty space, since instead of around millions of players like in live, there are just thousands. Its possible there’s just nobody around at the moment, or all the other servers are full. Its generally more empty in beta 
It's even more quiet now that season testing is basically over.
I've been away for a few weeks.... Did I miss anything?
Check #beta-announcements for the latest patch notes.
There haven't been any.
Us: Breathes
Shards: “Peace was never an option”
I give up. Alone not good.
Are you sure? I can see several updates there.
Is it wrong to say it's interesting to see new locations for shards and reduces the chance of disturbing the peace at some locations too frequently?
it's not wrong, i agree
however there's still no system whatsoever for where they fall so i'm a bit concerned for live folks
Where is it located now? Where in Prairie?
I ate it 
Sanctuary main island to the left of the big waterfall
The patch notes confirmed that first week or so of the season will be more intense ( more frequent or all red shards perhaps?)
And that red shards fall further from the main path ( in seasonal areas)
But some realms have multiple locations of red shards from the main path so we can't predict it fully
yeah i got that, however for someone who likes to be organized this season will be a complete nightmare
It's just sky trying to be spontaneous.... which is definitely a change from what they have done before
Usually, we got 2 different places when its AC shard time. Now its reduced to 1. Is this intended, like its a sign that the season is almost over?
there are some rotations where its only one if im not mistaken
it's funny how TGC seems to think that the shards falling more "off the beaten path" will be less disruptive, when it is exactly those places people covet for the peace and quiet
they shouldve happened in social spaces cuz thered be no shortage of people there 
I personally feel like this season has destroyed the core of the game, even though in theory I like the idea of it: especially being able to get AC from another source that doesn't require so much time. But having these shards and crabs in places like Prairie caves, around grandma, the Starlight desert just feels wrong.
i used to sleep in starlight desert back then when it was released
imagine what would happen if i still did
also i've been thinking... did grandma do something that angered the eden king so now he's destroying her dinners?
The shards falling in social spaces does suck though because it ruins the vibe imo. Like it completely made treehouse feel not cozy and fun to be in. And I imagine when it comes to live there might be a full server in a social space and when a shard falls you'll probably have people angry beeping trying to get other people to participate when those people just want to socialize or relax
nice profile rae :D
also yeah, i don't know whether to be happy that i don't have to grind eden or be sad because they took away the coziest places - even if it's just for a while
arguably this can be said for any other area they chose to put shards in though
no, grandma just invited the crabs over for dinner too -- and insists that they won't bite while we're getting bowled over by them >_>
I'm guessing with the update for live released there's little chance of any changes to be made to the shardfall element now ^^;;
i guess all in all it just sucks that its a timed event that happens and you sorta have to plan around it if you wanna chill without shards bombarding the peace
my internet is failing me yikes 💀 agreed with zem
there will be tons of wings falling from afk sleeping players everywhere
Yeah I hope they knock back the times they fall once the season concludes or do something so it doesn't seem as in the way or vibe destroying. I love the extra AC, my resize count goes up every week so I'd definitely love to have the ability to collect more ac for it, but the way it disrupts vibes sucks.
Also @steady pond true but I'd rather them not be in places that are geared towards relaxing and being social like treehouse. I like to sit there and play guitar and vibe and shards being there kills it.
Areas that actively have chat benches and stuff like that shouldn't have shards falling anywhere near those spots imo.
But remember, TGC won't tell us the timing, just like always. So we have to do all the work for them, trying to find a pattern.
respects to anyone who is willing to make a chart or something (this is a desperate beg for help)
io and clement probably will
saviours of the seasonal chat
Now that Clement is a mod, maybe they can get the info directly from TGC? I don't know. A lot of the other things, like grandma and geyser and their wax collection caps, were compiled by many players testing the features.
io and clement will be saving the lives of the entire sky community when shattering comes to live 😭
the sense of community tgc wanted to instill in us was the data collecting community all along
Oh yea trueeee
get in loser we're going to group therapy
cosmos be typing his heart out and honestly i couldn't agree more
Just some thoughts from me doing eden in live rather than in beta due to my wing caps between both versions (170 as of pre eden in live, 112 in beta), new eden is really easy for me, there is one totem that's annoying in the open as you get pushed away when recharging, and I suggest for taller skids you sit when being healed from light. It's possible to get all 63 totems with 160+ PNR entry wings as long as you play safe and manage to get around... Up until the last totem in PNR, if you have over 70 to 80 wings, you should be able to get to the hill at the end of PNR, the rest is down to RNG.
I went in with 164 WL and had a few frame drops which screwed me over as I'd lost 30 wings which upset me a little, BUTTTT, when me and my partner go on Thursday, I should be able to get all of the wings if I get my total 172 WL before entry (if trials aren't entirely broken in live - mainly on ab Fire trial here), BUTTTT with the new red splashes showing large shards are aboutta land, at first it's a little unclear at first but they do end up making a bunch of sense when you recharge for long enough and watch closely.
- again I never tested eden 2.0 in beta mainly due to my low wing cap and me not wanting to be all worked up ab a low AC count, but this is what I have to say ab visiting the newer changes
I love the feature that as long as you're in view of light you actually can't lose wings which I find REALLY good for eden these days, definitely going to save a few lives too!
Ngl at first I was unsure, but damn new eden I love a tone, ESPECIALLY that crimson glow in the air and the newer stage 2 area
i'm really precise about everything and i'm honestly to afraid to test eden because i know i'll be disappointed with myself
What's your WLm? If it's above 140 you should be good for the most part, you won't reach the far ends of stage 2 but it's okay
in beta? 20................................................................. 💀
I did Eden in beta and I didn't find it more challenging as such, but I also didn't see the point of the crawling mechanism. It doesn't add anything of value to the area. From the questions Sagomay has posed, I am assuming that they are looking to make Eden more emotionally engaging. The remake of the statues are now similar to Pompeii, which I suppose can make some players feel more sad? But overall, the main issue is still that players do Eden to get a valuable currency. As long as the currency is there, it will always become a chore in the end.
Wing max, as in what was your wing count exiting eden?
in live my maximum wing count is around 190 and in beta it's like... 100 something? i usually only collect up to 50 but i'll try and get as many as i can then finally push myself to do it, it deserves a chance atleast
Didn't someone say that the sweet spot is 140, because after that you will lose more wings to the red rain?
Okay so youll be able to get halfway through stage 2 before dying then, sooo 11 to 13 AC in beta, as long as you time stuff right you'll get all 15.75 ac in live
hell yeah
tyty x
Can you guys confirm something before I go to Eden and test this new update in live? I seen before going into the endless rain you take less damage and the time it takes to get damaged is not as rapid. That is new, right?
Trust me, if you wanna get an idea for live, I'd try in beta straight off the bat so you understand the whole waves of shard patterns for stage 2
@maiden pond yes that's very much true! However as someone who did eden very recently, take at least 2 instant recharges, YOU'LL NEED THEM
My advice is go straight for the totems, them backtrack for statues so that you have a way to heal if you get hit when tryna give life, I tried this and it made PNR WAYYYY easier so trust me for that it's worth it 
I'm stocking up on instant recharge potions, buying them every day until Rainbow ends. Which is making my candles run dry. Currently have 9, after geyser is over I'll go buy some more.
Don't use your candles, use your AC if you have any, that's what I'm doing as I'm in a deficit for both pride and TS, I'm at 200c in live rn, but I'm also CR daily so i have enough for both events-
As of rn most of the candles are going for TS until I know otherwise
I meant I had 9 instant recharge potions, not candles lol.
tbh the shard falling completely ruins sky's entire point of 'socializing and relaxing'
Sorry to bother about a message from an hour ago, but what do you mean about being unable to lose wings in view of light? I've not heard of this feature nor experienced it myself to my knowledge, and your message has me very curious.
As long as you're close to the light totems, you can't lose wings when you're hit, as you're extinguished and instantly relit; also DW about it, as long as it's genuine comments adding to what's been said/asking questions, it's cool to reply with ping :)
Ah, I understand now, thank you for the kind reply! This is very useful information going forward, thanks once again.
DW ab it, the whole part of eden is really interesting now, it's easier and it's noticeable of how large rocks fall by monitoring the red spotlights across the floor too. A lot of the time in PNR is recharging and running between totems, the rest of it is running and lighting and the final stretch of like 2 to 5 minutes is crawling which is cool
ktjn's clones are watching
im so done with this godforsaken update. im sick of it. crawling NEEDS TO GO i just tried eden in live with 186 wl and DIDNT EVEN MAKE IT TO THE LAST STATUE i cant imagine how things will be when the shards start to fall, im honestly getting sick and tired of playing at this point. i remember when i said eden was fun in this update. i changed my mind.
Thats just called bad RNG and bad timings, I managed to get just next to the 62nd one in live as I was depleted of my wings... Next eden run (probably Thursday/Friday) I should be able to get the last two 
I hadn't been to eden in testing so I found it really enjoyable
I found there's a clip hole in the enterance to the travel to orbit which is just a barrier gate, and the whole king/elder jelly oob bug is patched now -sobs-
Oh i have a question, what is y'all opinion on the krill cape?
Do u prefer red on the inside or nothing on the inside?
I preferred the red gradient shown in this redesign here by Cy: #beta-screenshots-videos message
The older version’s underside red was too much honestly, so I’d prefer it without
It looks so thick. Like a leather cape. Maybe it's a real leather skin from krill.. 😭🤣🤣
I meeeean…
I love it with red.. It was elegant.
In the edit? Looks elegant, just right. What we actually were supposed to get? Looked like Performance guide’s debut in Mad Max
Yes
Im prefer at least abit more of red like tear effects type of detail, cause right now it feels mute rather than danger.
Yea i agree on the season of performance look alike
at least performance has some color to it, krill cape just looks bland 
What I’m saying is, if there to be any underside, it shouldn’t be as intense
I still dont know why did thet put the fluffy neck 😭
It should’ve been an accessory but I like it either way
Krills are just fuzzy worms on a string
Oh well, im looking foward just for the manta ult anyway 
Hi beta ppl! i have a quick question, these shard events from the season of shattering happen daily, right? Is there 1 or 2 shard events daily?
2 shards daily in two locations at the drop times
They give u AC right?
Depends on the shard type
so its not a guaranteed thing that we get a set amount of AC a day? if i were to go to all shard events
Also, live patch notes have explained the difference between wax/AC shards but no exact schedule, the beta schedule is not what it’s going to be like in live
I feel the “how much/location/schedule” questions will be impossible to answer accurately with the unpredictable nature of the shards, we’re not given much explanation 
Did my message get deleted or did it not send what happened-
ill just hope its enough to substitute eden
It is if you have time to grind everyday
luckily I do or should atleast
"Chance of completing the quest"
U telling me that me doing 4 red shards and not completing it was by design 😭😭😭
season hasnt even started and tbf im already waiting for it to be over..
I want to see what will the second part change, its certanly not gonna be the worst sky experience we ever had
second part?
Yes there is more stuff related to the season to come according to the devs, but it wont make it to live before the season starts probably because we have to test it first
so its like coming in 2 parts? has that ever happened before?
Not part, there will just be more to it, we dont know it since the devs are radio silemt about it, we just know there is more coming
and with like "more"are we talking like cosmetics, seasonal quests, seasonal areas ? or just more in general
It might be referring to the mysterious live schedule instead, it’s not exactly on a set timer
We don’t know
Interesting! ill be looking forward to that tho
The thing we can know is that there will be no more cosmetics added to the season tree, i dont think they can change that later on, unless they changed the prices to live to prepare to more stuff coming
Cause testing ended eons ago
Hello, may I ask where can I post a concept art? Some cosmetics are a part of the beta that hasn't been released in the live servers yet
You post them to #beta-screenshots-videos
Thank you for responding ❤️... But, isn't that where footage from the beta sever belongs? Will I not break any rules? Sorry I'm kinda new here
Concept art that contains beta content can go in the beta screenshots channel. 
Ooh, many thanks!
I hate that the baby manta cape doesnt have a glowy tail, but thats actually loyal to the baby manta model, the tail is barely noticeable
Since we don't have a beta memes channel and such, any images related to beta, like memes and fan art, goes there
Which can lead to some pretty funny threads 
It says something that I am now inordinately happy whenever the instant recharge potion is for sale for ACs at the sleepy merchant's boat. I'm like hiya precious bottle, come to Kimiiii <buys spell> 
No updates yet huh 🥲
since the schedule is set to be changed throughout the season as well, I fear there’s just going to be even more confusion
I guess krill armor is just a pipe dream of mine 
it's sunday hon
#beta-feedback is worth a shot though
didn't the jester pants get added to Performance after player feedback? seeing as those are some real good pants, maybe there is still a tiny hint of hope for krill pants too.... one can hope
Thank you! Found it 
Hello I have a question I don’t really know if any of you can help but is there a way for me to go from beta on my android to my ios phone because I have sky beta on my android and I wanted to know if it was possible for me to have it on my ios instead, sorry if it’s hard to understand I’m bad at explaining

for beta andriod to ios, you also need to wait for ios invite if i am not wrong... login should be the same so u can carry over but you need an invite
Oh alright thanks you! 

Guys, I posted a concept art that I commissioned. It's located at #beta-screenshots-videos. Perhaps we could talk about it here? What do you gus think? ❤️ Krill armor 😌
Can someone tell me how to get beta?
just saying this here since it's kinda spoilers for the upcoming season but
i think this is the first time i haven't been excited for a season to start 💀
Read #beta-faq carefully
You are kris the krill tamer after all 
Okay
Lmao this is saying a lot 🤣🤣 I’m excited for the easy ac and some of the cosmetics. Also the dark realms look cool, once in a while
These changes were made before the season hit live
Maybe they could add something to the guide tree, i hope so
I don’t think they added jester pants in response to player feedback, there’s no time to add a whole pant to a season after it starts in beta. They were just still working on it. Not all cosmetics are released at once in beta seasons
The krill hair got added later as well, so I don’t think there will be any more additions to the cosmetics
Anyway i did eden, concluded that with 150/160 wings is possible to get 60 statues, the last 3 just arent worth it.
My main issue with eden and its a problem in general, is that the new cover areas that were added, these needed to be revised as rocks easily go trough it, and the rocks shouldnt knock us to the right, it doesnt make sense
Not the slightest disappointment? It kinda feels lacking TBH. Me too I'm really excited, quite disappointed at the same time. Sure major things are dope, but about the small things?. Krill horn for example, what does it even do? Single note for an exclusive item? Hell nah. We get a complete set for the light side, but no krill pants? Could've been one of the highlight cosmetic of the season....
We need completely black pants
Wow.. crazy crabs today around Shards.. and this season is going live soon?? That’s bananas!!
I think we are likely to recieve something on the guide tree as it been a trend for some time now
You can easily lure the crabs away before starting to burn the plants
Sure, that’s what i usually do, just that today the number of crabs was a little nuts
we have leftover seasonal heart so maybe
I mean to unlock with missions, i dont think we gonna have leftover seasonal hearts on live
It’s a bummer that crabs are not synched between skykids 
Ohh like a prop or a mask KRILL HORNS PLZ
Well they are, internet/server issues can mess with it a bit tho
i think i might just be bummed cuz of the lack of lore/cutscenes
i'm also kinda just not excited about the whole dark crab thing 😭from what i've seen it makes these shard missions so painful, especially alone
Anyone else give up on trying to lure crabs away due to them being too numerous and being instilled with a boomerang type tendency to return from across the map?
personally i know i'll be alright because.. well.. i'm a krill tamer of course i'll be fine with darkness i just
kinda wish there was more to it yk
also please stop @/ing me
/nm
Annoyingly they don't seem to run off cliffs anymore either
I usually can't get them to follow me away from the shards/darkness, and if I succeed too much time is wasted and they return anyways it feels like
who else is planning to setup "pied piper" shared memories just before shattering starts to hopefully help live players out with crabs 
It been a while that no beta update come..I really hope we will get something tmr haha
it's sunday, that's why there's no update
remember that tgc staffs have families aswell
DoS testing hopefully in the next two weeks
I don't ask for them to pop out Beta update immediately, I jus saying that there is no update in these days and I wish to get one . Geeze don't be so over positive :')
i hope we get tier 2 bunny accessory for 50 bucks 😍😍😍😍😍
God no-
with six eyes, four ears and eight tails it could be a biblically accurate mochi bunny
actually i'd kinda like to have swimsuits or some kinda bathrobe cape whatsoever
That won't happen, the game is about children, if they added swimsuits, more people would sexualise sky kids... There's already plenty of people doing posts that get taken down almost daily....
what do skykids bathe in tho
Their normal clothes.... They swim in their normal clothes already... Obviously
I think we should move AWAY from this topic.
Well sky kids are essentially children of light so I don't think they get wet (or at least have any issue with getting wet) cuz they made of light

Just a theory tho, not really a lore specialist

Oooh
Add in a pool float or something you can sit in! Maybe it'll act like the days of love boat?
I think second wave of testing for Shattering may begin when there's 3-5 days left of it to come to Live, or when it releases in Live, I'm just speculating at this point.
There might be an update sometime this week, although probably not until Tuesday at the earliest since tomorrow is a holiday in the US
(ping off) While I do appreciate the testing, we also have to keep in mind Sky has been accessible for all skill levels. I understand it may be 'easy' for you or I, but we also have to account for players who can't get timings correctly, or people who don't regularly play games.
The new mechanics and changes to Eden increase the skill floor and brutally punish mistakes. If you get hit nowhere near a recharge spot, you can lose up to 30 WL for one mistake. I don't see my friend's son being able to complete Eden without throwing his controller in frustration and agony since his skill level wouldn't get the timing down for quite a few runs.
The other issue with the new changes is it needlessly adds extra time to the run. If people were already complaining about how long it takes to do Eden from 5 lantern door to rebirth door, imagine adding an extra 5-20 minutes due to these changes.
Edit: It's also good to go in testing as a new player by entering PNR with no more than realm WL total (105 currently, 108 if you count new season WL)
which memory is the one with the whale?
5th one
Wait I thought that was the krill one, I guess I misremembered
