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spark lance
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I like the cosmetics + the fact that I can get ac without going through Eden, but I'm not fond of the repetition with the quests + lack of scenes/lore stickerGloomy hoping there's a little more lore or just more anything added with season start, but I'll take whatever ig to get the ults since they look nice pkrilleye

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  • I hope it's more user friendly with all of the flashy/bright lights, I don't want photosensitive users to be unable to play during this season because of that sqwarlockDed
astral trellis
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i hope days of summer will be good

valid terrace
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have gotten less super duper anxious about things. I’ll be fine with scheduling; it won’t be Much to do and more likely won’t interfere much than a lot

and can always come up with backup plans for videos/activities/etc

only saying this here because I was veeery freaked out last night and this is following from that

chilly zenith
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did they extend it or no

blazing pivot
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How do moths join the "Season of Shattering" quest after the "Season of Shattering" is over?
We are teleporting from the constellations now, but when the "Season of Shattering" is over, there will be no more constellations. They have no means of transportation.
Sorry, I am not good at English.

broken fractal
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Is there only 1 shard location today? I only found 1 in dream, and no shard at SpiritYeti

tribal walrus
blazing pivot
broken fractal
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Shatter will end soon in beta or maybe extended , once that happens we might find out what happened then

tribal walrus
steady flume
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if there are wl hidden in the memories that must mean that we will be able to access them after the season ends
which would make it possible for moths to replay this season after season of shattering has ended (just a guess though)

steady pond
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although, gotta say the WLs are kind of negligible now that we will always have enough to get 10 wings in normal areas even for absolutely new moths hahaha

blazing pivot
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I would be terrified if I had to go to Eye of Eden or The Light to get to the event area......
I hope it doesn't come to that.

steady pond
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i dont mind if its an area accessible within edens social area itself, it would be an interesting place to put it

blazing pivot
steady pond
blazing pivot
spark lance
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The social area is the part of Eden at the start, before the first gate

gilded parrotBOT
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Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! stickerLove Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

blazing pivot
pseudo tapir
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okay all I'm saying is that shattering was very disappointing and NOT AT ALL ready to be released to live

atomic brook
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man i was really expecting shattering would be like 20 days more than 13 days

dreamy grail
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Sigh people with beta pfps really tryna cause drama on skycord huh?

mighty junco
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hi hi i heard this is where i can ask some questions about the upcoming event?

dreamy grail
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People using beta screenshots as pfps - eg post quest memories
If people see them around say gen chat, that's gunna cause a lot of drama (always has done)

@mighty junco what's up, what questions you have ab SoSh?

mighty junco
dreamy grail
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Season of Shattering begins on 00:00 July 11th and continues until 23:59 September 25th

Timezone is at TGC's timezone

hollow compass
snow minnow
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how much seasonal candles do we get in a single day? i mean and the wax and the quests

kindred fossil
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Beta? 25, 20 from bundles, 4 from quests, 1 AP daily

mighty harness
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Where in the valley today is the shard? I always struggle to find it in valley

gilded parrotBOT
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SkyLook I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here stickerLove Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first pHelloKrill

quiet cliff
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I completed the shattering season event but never found a wing in any memories at all ! Was there actually wings to collect ?

snow minnow
magic narwhal
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Not sure where else to ask this except in this channel, but how fast can you collect asc candle wax from strong eruptions in the new season?

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As in, is it worth it compared to eden?

kindred fossil
magic narwhal
kindred fossil
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Keep in mind the schedule is going to be drastically different in live

chrome ivy
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Tbh, I wouldn't go for eden run anymore or 1 year 1 eden run because of the damage overhaul. Go for the Crystal route instead

minor falcon
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as you don't need to go through ascencion and recollect wl the shards are a superior source of ac if you only need a few per week

magic narwhal
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I was thinking the same thing, especially knowing now that you can collect up to 4 AC, if you're not unlocking wings specifically it seems like a much better option

chrome ivy
magic narwhal
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That too! I mean, even that can be worth it for a new surefire wl but it depends on what you want

mighty harness
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Shards are not in hermit valley. Has anyone found them yet? I missed the last shard because I was waiting in wrong place

half nest
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did you check icerink? not sure of schedule today but wax ones are usually in icerink

quiet cliff
hollow compass
magic narwhal
naive shoal
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👋 hi!

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im new to this server but i was wondering if i could become a beta tester

naive shoal
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thank you

glass spoke
strong sentinel
shadow stratus
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And depending on the week you can get much more than going to eden

visual walrus
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I hate the crawling feature

spark lance
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For those who are still wondering when is Update, please keep in mind that Sagomay said that the build that includes testing the "second half" of the season would be released after yesterday. And yes, after yesterday doesn't mean it is today. It could be today or tomorrow or tomorrow tomorrow or even next weeks or months,... we just don't know. So yeah, the build will be release when it is ready.

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sky anniversary when

steep glade
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I still haven't caught on to this "pattern" people talk about. When there's 2 Shards, when there's 1, when they're red, when they're black.... what pattern?
It's just been chaos to me.

iron elbow
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I mean, we know all of the locations that shards may appear in
But that's most of the "pattern" I've seen
However, in the patch notes it has been said that the first week will have the most intense eruptions, so I think it's a guarantee it's going to be all red shards

dreamy grail
hollow compass
floral crystal
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Does anyone have the prices for Sky anniversary?

mild mason
dreamy grail
spark lance
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Wait so how would you actually get wing buffs if you collect ac thru the shards instead of eden

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Also do the shards “respawn”/refresh within one day if someone gets to it before you do

mighty mulch
spark lance
mighty mulch
# spark lance Dang. So you’d have to go thri eden anyways to get more wing buffs? Also about ...

For the new buff to be added to your count, yes, you would have to do Eden as usual.
On the plus side, if it's TS week and you don't have AC, you could grab some AC from the shard events without needing to Eden I guess?

Hopefully, someone can clarify your second question because I haven't personally encountered that situation. The shards flashed too much in the previous build so I didn't do a lot of the events.

spark lance
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I just won’t want someone else dojng the shard event before me/at the same time to mean that I can’t do it anymore

paper pumice
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I’m not a beta tester but, I think the shards might be like the clams from abyss?

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Cuz in a YT vid I saw awhile back someone was doing the same thing that person just finished

whole agate
spark lance
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Uhg i hate abyss missions is so repetitive 🙄

Shattering: 🌚

mellow echo
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I didn’t like the season of abyss and flight as much as the little prince and performance idk they were just boring

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The season of the little prince has a special place in my heart

spark lance
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Little prince storytelling is amazing stickerPlease

People got so emotional because its was very well made
Just like Dreams

mellow echo
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At first I made fun of his design but I got attached to him and was really sad when he was gone. I wish I could see him again.

whole agate
mellow echo
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The replay memory thing should definitely let you redo the quest with no benefits, I hate just seeing that rose cutscene

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Also any beta testers please tell me there’s not shards at the starlight desert

nova bay
mellow echo
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I’m suing

nova bay
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Well let me rephrase, we tested shards in starlight desert, nobody knows how it will eventually be in live

mellow echo
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Oh okay. I’m scared for the next season I don’t want to get attacked by a crab that’s as aggressive as a chihuahua

sly quartz
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did anyone else just see eden explode in live ?? stickerShock

mellow echo
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WHAT? JOINING RN

minor falcon
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yep the eden explosion animation plays in some realms already, but shards don't fall to the ground

mellow echo
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Naw 😭😭

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I’m gunna sit in live for a while to try to catch it, how often does it happen?

fervent ridge
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Yeah, it's like a "visual bug" I experienced that since just updated the new patch on live

brazen wagon
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Guys,I think the test suit will be qualified soon

sly quartz
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i never noticed until i turned my camera and got jumpscared by a pink sky SkyLOL , so many massive bugs getting through with this patch update sqwarlockDed

mellow echo
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Are the shard crabs bigger than normal crabs? Oh my elders that has to suck

drowsy breach
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so...how many winged lights in the ancient memory area?

broken bison
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Morning folks! How youre doin?

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Have you guys played the Alto games?? Altos Adventure and Altos Odyssey? Both are beautiful games
I think they will be a perfect fit for a collab season hehe

sick spear
quiet cliff
broken bison
spark lance
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hope they remove crawling in eden pFIRE pFIRE

quiet cliff
spark lance
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it feel like crawling in there is unnessary like why would we even need that when we want to done eden quick and fast, and not being sleep in there for an hour

iron elbow
spark lance
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like why they dont reduce brightness at the last area pFIRE pFIRE or they want player going to be blind, there are a lot of thing need to be fix or update and they choose making us craw

broken bison
rugged kayak
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they can make eden as emotional and tragic as they want, it still generally loses that effect after doing it a few times (and well we NEED to for AC)

as for the crawling i still very much prefer that over being stunlocked for a minute straight (actually happened to me!!!) at the endless rain area. truly if you're just careful about when you're going to the next statue you very much can go through eden unscathed until the endless rain. it just takes actual practice and timing now instead of being completely random. i like eden now

spark lance
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Honestly yeah as much as I hate crawling, it's so much better than stunlock

rugged kayak
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it may be slow but at least you can MOVE 😭👍

and i will say they DID increase the speed already. if they increased it anymore they would have to change the animation as well, because right now... honestly it's a little funny looking haha.

spark lance
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Haha yea

Don't mind my recent message deletion oops I accidentally typed here and not in game chat to partner 💀

cursive tinsel
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The fast crawl is pretty creepy already

rugged kayak
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an idea i have is that it starts slow when you get knocked down, but speeds up pretty quickly with a gait that makes sense and hopefully doesn't look as silly, and ends up ultimately being a little faster than the current crawl. this idea comes from the fact that your skykid slowly stands back up and goes from a limp to a normal walk if you're not hit for a while

however i can feel that being a bit annoying, as sadly it would make sense for the crawl to slow back down if you're hit again

chilly wigeon
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I like the crawling for when it was endless red rain and you would constantly get knocked over and stunlockedaSkyRoll

broken bison
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Not gonna lie, i really liked when the rock rain came in charged layers when you werent hiding behind a boulder pFIREpFIRE

spark lance
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i would like the crawling if they make it look hide and seek crawl bug speed pPopcorn

hasty moth
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i like the idea of slow eden but i feel like if youve done it a few times you should have the option to either do old eden (the fast one) or the new eden (the slow one)
both would not have an advantage over the other and its entirely up to the user on which one they want to experience for their weekly run, i think
would be a happy medium to for both people who dont like crawling in eden vs though who like it

spark lance
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you can still get the same amount of ac both ways right? its just the time thats different

hasty moth
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yeah afaik its still the same cap for both edens (though i havent done new eden yet since ive done it this week already)
the only things that would be different is the old eden would have the layout pre-shattering with no crawling while new eden would be the one we have currently

woeful obsidian
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So in a week you can earn 40 ac? With eden? If you reach all statues.?

spark lance
woeful obsidian
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Eden we can get 14-20 I heard.. I just always get 15.. And the daily shards give ac too. So 4 candles for one shard.. Depends on how good you are. Then we have some wax days.. Where we get just candle wax... You said we get the same amount on both ways..

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So max 20 from eden plus 20 from shards? Or am I thinking wrong?

hasty moth
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i dont think eden ever gave 20? i thought ~15 wax the max

spark lance
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Yeah eden never gave out 20pEyes although I wish they did, I’d be able to buy six resize potionspPopcorn

digital pasture
cursive tinsel
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Eden give 0.25 AC per statue so max was 15.75
+4 AC per red shard ( max 3 days with two red shards if you're lucky)

Max is 39.75?

spark lance
hazy scaffold
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Hello, where are shards today?

spark lance
sly quartz
torn girder
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i usually see testflight in my “suggestions” in the app library (ios) when there is an updoot, but it’s scammed me a few times nowsqwarlockDed

hollow compass
torn girder
hollow compass
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Ok. Testflight itself also needs updating sometimes.

cursive tinsel
spark lance
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Oh ok ok

digital pasture
spark lance
cursive tinsel
oak remnant
eager harness
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The shards don’t always give 4 ascended candles. I’ve only gotten 2-3. And I just got 16 from Eden.

restive needle
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So doing a Shard event for a quest doesn’t always guarantee you’ll finish the quest?

twin isle
spark lance
restive needle
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I wonder if Eden is supposed to explode in live or not. I haven’t seen it yet but I hope it’s not super flashy

shadow stratus
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Is the max AC on eden still 15.75 after the changes?

spark lance
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Do the shattering spirits give out wing buffs?

shadow stratus
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Only travelling spirits and main constelation spirits do that

chrome cypress
shadow stratus
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I feel like there is 1 or 2 missing, cant confirm

spark lance
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Hmm are you guys able to log in normally in beta?

signal folio
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SO
I just saw someone post a video about seeing a Prarie eruption in live screen shots. pMoth is this supposed to happen?

naive shoal
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hi umm, i want to become a beta tester and dont have nitro what should i do?

twin isle
naive shoal
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ok

hushed arch
trim spade
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Yeah I’ve heard ppl complaining that realms get dark in live etc

tranquil folio
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Does anyone know if it got addressed how the WLs in memories be obtainable after event ends?

trim spade
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After this season ends can we all pretend it never happened?

mellow echo
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Is the Eden exploding on a set timer or is it random?

tranquil folio
trim spade
mellow echo
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Is that a bug in live too? Does it activate then? I’ve been wanting to catch it
Sorry for too many questions

trim spade
mellow echo
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Okay thank you

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One more question… does it only happen in 1 realm

visual temple
lyric kite
eager harness
spark lance
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where's the shards today?

gilded parrotBOT
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Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live! pBuffMoth Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well SkyNod

placid iron
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Tbh I'm kinda looking forward to the season and idk if that's a bad thing stickerEmbarrassed
Like, it means I can organise Shattering groups with friends but ik if I say "Oh yeah I like the stuff Shattering brings to Sky" I'd get (verbally) bashed on for it sqwarlockDed

restive needle
eager harness
spark lance
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; u;

eager harness
eager harness
restive needle
visual temple
spark lance
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aren't they gonna keep the stuff tho. the shards is a thing thatll keep going after season end tho

eager harness
spark lance
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the lights helps you recharge along with recharge spells if you are alone or your fellow friend is also injured

restive needle
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Like saying that you enjoy the SoS content is one thing, but saying something like “Doing the SoS content is easy, you guys are just complaining about it for no reason” is another

spark lance
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so, have yall figure out where the shards are for today or-

placid iron
chilly wigeon
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I'm hoping the 2nd part of the season puts SoS in its redemption arcaSkyRolllll

spark lance
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mkay imma figure it out have fun discussin yall

visual temple
placid iron
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This is happening in multiple servers that I'm in too so it just feels like "No you're not allowed to like SoS if we don't like it you don't like it" stickerGloomy

oak remnant
restive needle
# placid iron Considering the way the beta chat was speaking it def seems like it <:stickerGlo...

Well, I think you’d probably do better to hang around in #cozy-sky-discussion once the season hits live, at least for a while. The frustrations that beta testers have is probably going to also be felt by live players. I’d also argue that the discussions here aren’t “toxic,” the only time I’d consider that is if somebody starts to intentionally try and start an argument or something. For the most part even though the conversations are talking about the season negatively it’s not “toxic.” Theres a lot of valid complaints to be had so people are naturally going to be bringing them up. I cant say that things won’t be crazy when it hits live though.

visual temple
oak remnant
# placid iron This is happening in multiple servers that I'm in too so it just feels like "No ...

Tbh I found that your experience really apparent almost everywhere these days. I found many people tend to show their disappointments (which is okay) towards the season too strongly. To the point that it feels like discouraging other players to like it. But just so you know, there will always be people who like this season, or some parts of it. I hope you'll find kinder people next time you talk about this season OreoLove

gilded parrotBOT
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Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! stickerLove Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

shadow stratus
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I think crawling is not that bad, my main issue with it is that if you get hit by a krill that makes you lose like 4/5 wings at once, you wont be able to get all back alone, unless you get to light first

visual temple
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The thing is nowadays you don’t have time to get those WL back before they disappear. Last year we had I think 14 seconds; now they scatter so far from you and from each other and you only have a couple seconds to gather them back.

Frequent scenario is you get krilled a second time doing so because of the crawling slowing you down

shadow stratus
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Im not sure if the way the wings go out changed, its usually random.
In fact my strategy for krills was always throw myself against a wall if there is no cover at all, the wings get kinda stuck on the wall most of the time

whole plank
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I've seen some screenshots and videos and it looks like Eden has already started to erupt in live. Is this switch only?

spark lance
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wait. do every area in the quests have a wl

cuz i found one on the crabs one. thought only the whale one has it haha

shadow stratus
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There is 3
And im not sure about the eruptions

whole plank
spark lance
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thank you! good to know

dull tiger
rugged kayak
remote flame
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to be honest i think i like the season decently but the new crawling mechanic makes everything too frustrating. i feel like it punishes players a bit too much for taking damage and causes them to take more damage because you move slow (especially during eden and shard events) i just still feel like something is missing. a lot of people wanted an eden season for so long and now that we get one it doesn't really expand much on the story at all, which is sad because it's the main story of sky. the scenes we see at the end of the quests are cool but right now there is no way to view them again after they have been seen which is also sad

twin isle
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Who else is hoping for season of Shattering season role they use 🆘 for the react button

spark lance
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will the anniversary testing continue in 0.18.5?

inland hearth
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The anniversary event is already gone to live. We don't know for sure, but it's unlikely. Usually events aren't tested very long or restarted unless they need to be redone. I would guess not, and that we will be testing Days of Summer instead.

cosmic orchid
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didn't we already finished testing the anniversary event?

forest shoal
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Hi, I saw this in a video but wasn’t sure if it was a beta thing, a live thing, or maybe an unintended side effect so thought it was best to ask here: are krill meant to go after your props instead of your skykid?

elder inlet
whole plank
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only the devs knows for sure, as it is not clear whether it is intended or not, but it has been confirmed that it works that way.

shadow stratus
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Reguardless, you can use prop as a shield atm and it will enter on a cooldown of 60 seconds
Same goes if it get hit by storm at eden or a crab

summer cave
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im really excited for the season and i love they're trying something new! but my main question is will they come back as travelling spirits?

elder inlet
summer cave
lilac epoch
misty bone
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I think the prop was to prevent people from recharging that why the red crabs attack the prop first instead of person.. but i am not sure if this is intended

bitter bronze
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Am I the only person confused after completing shattering?

lilac epoch
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Yeah the shards become a daily AC/wax farming event after you complete the guide's tree, which is the goal from what I can gather of the devs' notes on it. They wanted to provide an alternative means for gathering AC. Makes the season a lil boring and repetitive but well, that's how it is so far. Not sure what "phase 2" of it will bring. Hopefully we get a bit more lore and action.

misty bone
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although not sure what is going to be shard frequency since live and beta might be different

ripe sand
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When they do a progress wipe does it wipe your Live progress too?

chilly wigeon
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No

eager harness
agile hazel
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But that's not what the patch notes say

visual temple
shadow stratus
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I didnt saw any mention about being able to charging people bald with honks

spark lance
shadow stratus
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We cant recharge people that lost all the light by honking

runic beacon
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I was minding my business and saw some moth getting a bunch of stuff but it was the same thing over and over as if it was in loop pEyes.... (sus pSquint ) they were kinda speedy too

chilly wigeon
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I saw some people in office recently and they somehow kept getting a bunch of seasonal candle packs and iap packs even though you could only get one

unique river
chilly wigeon
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It just seemed weird that they were getting so many packs

unique river
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Candles are free in beta too so I don't really understand why they'd be buying a bunch of Seasonal candles with the AP

half nest
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exactly, they're a hacker. please report them in game if possible and try not to give attention to them
you can't buy seasonal candle packs or standard candlr packs in beta but you can get iaps that come with candles (e.g office guitar)

drifting lotus
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Hey does anybody know how to get the beta version? I can’t seem to find it

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Oh ok ty!!

trim spade
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@unique river @chilly wigeon please report those players immediately! They are hackers! To report just light them and tap on the report button. You don’t need to friend them

unique river
trim spade
runic beacon
restive needle
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We can’t charge people who lost their light with deep honks anymore, I don’t know if Sagomay said that recently or not but it’s wrong

chilly wigeon
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This was like 2 days ago

agile hazel
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Bruh I've seen people say that Sagomay said that you can recharge extinguished players with deep call and that you can't. When they haven't even mentioned anything on that recently

spark lance
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im so confused.. what's the official take on recharging and is it even working properly in the game 😭

lilac bobcat
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Could it be that because TGC is currently making a animated project probably filled with a huge amount of lore, that seasons from now on for a while that they won’t feature any story elements? Or is that just for the Season of Shattering?

agile hazel
spark lance
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where is the darkness in valley today?

gilded parrotBOT
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Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here pSkyLove Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

sweet briar
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Hey does anyone know where the shard is ;w;?

stuck condor
sweet briar
agile hazel
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Do the shard plants spawn butterflies like other plants?

proud coral
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I just did a shard event and didn't see any. Question for people who have done the shard events many times (I've been super inactive this season!) Can you earn rewards from doing shards multiple times a day or is it only once? I just did two in a row and didn't receive any more AC wax and wanted to make sure this is intended pWow

vital crystal
agile hazel
hollow compass
agile hazel
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I haven't been on since the last quest so idk

sweet briar
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Hey the shard is not showing at all,, Ive looked everywhere in valley

carmine panther
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are the shards only in dreams ice rink? or hermit valley too?

elder inlet
woeful obsidian
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I am not so amused with this void things... And wings there. And that is all random. That Forces us to go evryday to shard to hope to go to a wl this time. That can be the solution! Forcing people to play isn't good. With the trials I am Satisfied, because you go if you have time and then you can choose wich wl you want to have. Or get all at one day.

But this new system. That means this wl (3, I heard of) doesn't count properly for me. It's just a special. If you lucky you can get one.

astral trellis
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when the only thing shattering in this season is the game's code stickerHAHA

steady pond
woeful obsidian
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Maybe to reach my 11 wedge? 😭

hushed arch
steady pond
# woeful obsidian Maybe to reach my 11 wedge? 😭

theres already 106 WL available in all realms currently, + 49 from regular spirits. you can already obtain 11 wedges which require 150 WL without a single TS wing buff, so i don't see why the 3 WL in SoS memory area is necessary

woeful obsidian
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Yes if you have all open the regularly spirits.

steady pond
woeful obsidian
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But nvm.

I just saying. That i am not amused with it.

Maybe there are just one wl in void. And it depends on wich memory you hopp in, if it's there. It can show up in the crab memory, or krill memory.. And not 3. 🤷

steady pond
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yeah the inconsistency is definitely the more annoying part of obtaining those WLs, i wonder why its randomized lol

hushed arch
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wait wasnt it originally Not randomized

hollow compass
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We have been given very little information. So who knows. SkyShrug

hasty shuttle
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Seasonal candles are missing for me o.o

random edge
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Me too

hollow compass
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Oh, that “bug” again. They might have set the end date to today originally.

hollow flame
hasty shuttle
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I'll try that

Okay, it works :D Thankyou

dreamy grail
# proud coral I just did a shard event and didn't see any. Question for people who have done t...

From what I know, butterlfies do appear around shards for the most part, some might not spawn some. I know Sanctuary definitely has butterlfies and I've not exactly been on beta in a few weeks, but just keep an eye out for them Nasty stickerPlease
It's a good idea to place a memory candle down for yourself at the beginning of the event of placing like a campfire in a space place or bring recharges. Definitely advice I can give there SkyTada
I believe you can only do a shard once for the rewards. Pretty sure people would abuse the system if you could repeatedly do them for wax SkyDontGo

Hope this is of use and apologies for the ping SkyBow

eager harness
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I don’t know who it was that said that Eden is already exploding on live. It’s not. I stayed the whole time is was going in the Valley and nothing. Please don’t believe in rumors.

kind prawn
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The lightening effect is there in Live.. unless it’s always been there

kindred fossil
kind prawn
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It can’t be that much of a mystery, we can always check it ourselves 🤷‍♂️

kindred fossil
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Thing is, it’s not consistent, the effect will not appear for everyone within a group

kind prawn
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Interesting..

Will check it in..15mins to confirm

eager harness
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Not calling anyone a liar. Just simply saying what I saw myself.

kindred fossil
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They are, the serval instances I’ve heard from have no idea what beta is

eager harness
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I’ll have to look again today, but all I saw was lightening. It was a tiny bit brighter, but no eruptions.

kind prawn
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Can confirm what I see in about 10mins, if that matters at all.

eager harness
kindred fossil
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If it does indeed happen, it is only going to be a brief earthquake followed by the shards erupting in the distance, that’s all

kind prawn
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..sure

eager harness
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There wasn’t an earthquake for me either. This is my confusion, @kindred fossil.

kindred fossil
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Again, it’s inconsistent, it doesn’t follow the beta schedule, it’s not going to appear for everyone

kind prawn
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It’s no biggi for me either way, but will share in about 4mins

eager harness
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Does that make it a bug then?

kindred fossil
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I understand why you remain skeptical, in that case I have no further information to provide

eager harness
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So, after the season is done in beta, how do we go back to relieve the memories to get the wings? Doing the shard events over and over until you get the right one?

elder inlet
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as of rn it seems so,hopefully we can be free to revisit them

kind prawn
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They will likely fix the memory glitch

eager harness
kind prawn
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Ahh.. good point, then.. sure, what you said

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Well.. it’s been 5mins past the hour.. and no boom, will keep an eye on it, let ya know if things change 👍

eager harness
kind prawn
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It’s likely what Dark suggested, in that it’s not consistent for everyone. There is a dark cloud over the mountain, lightening.. not sure it’s a bug, that is when something that supposed to happen, doesn’t, can’t imagine not seeing Eden going boom pre-season start would classify as a bug.. and for those who do see it.. “yay”, I guess.

Still, nothing stopping you from reporting it as a bug 🤷‍♂️

eager harness
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I may or may not. I’m just confused lol And I still don’t like this season. Don’t hulk smash me. 😂

kind prawn
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Yup, not sure of some of what has been added this season. If Live plays like Beta did, there will probably be many many tears… should be fun to see

dreamy grail
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Question, with the stuff appearing in live, are they around the usual increments in daily realm* or anywhere in general? Stayed at forests gate for 20 mins the other day, saw nothing, got there early as well

kind prawn
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stuff appearing meaning Shards?

dreamy grail
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The effects in the skies for shards ect

kind prawn
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It’s likely gonna be somewhat like the Beta experience, things usually work that way.. but, not sure.

Shard appearing at Forrest/ Granny was particularly icky, hope the Crab ratio doesn’t remain the same, as it is inconsistent with the rest of the areas.

Will have to wait and see.. as can’t say nothing for certain

minor falcon
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I saw it in prairie yesterday in live

dreamy grail
kind prawn
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Maybe it is just randomly exploding in different areas at different parts of the day.. makes some kinda sense that.

chrome ivy
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Tbf, after the scandal of lack of story I think there's a possible second backlash in live.

kind prawn
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A story would have been nice, it’s not always a part of each season.. just that being based on Eden, a good opportunity for storytelling has been lost.. which is a shame

Likely Crawling is gonna trigger more people

molten panther
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The shard event doesn't have a set time like the other events? 👀 When I thought this season can't have less guidance... 🙄

rustic leaf
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There's not always a really clear story for seasons though? Prophecy was just 'people doing training and there are pictures on the wall'

Edit: But yeah an eden/darkness season like this would have been ripe for a bit more lore stuff

kind prawn
molten panther
chrome ivy
rustic leaf
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I liked enchantment, who said it was bad I'll fight them

kind prawn
chrome ivy
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The Shard event will appear every 1 hour. So, the season starts and along with the Shard event.
After that, 1 hour the Shard will appear at that location. Thank God that they didn't change it to random location.

molten panther
chrome ivy
molten panther
chrome ivy
agile hazel
molten panther
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Plus, when I asked the frequency in live, one of the devs just answered with "less frequent than beta"

full blade
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Btw where is the shard event area today? Can’t find it 🙁🙁

gilded parrotBOT
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Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live! pBuffMoth Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well SkyNod

agile hazel
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Yes, the only confirmation we have is that it won't be 30mins since that's purely for beta testing

eager harness
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I don’t think there really are abruptions honestly. The season hasn’t started yet for one. Also. The crawling mechanism is already in Eden on live. I don’t like all of this.

molten panther
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Can we get revived by butterflies? Otherwise Wasteland is going to be fun for moths since no one is there nodays... Goodluck getting saved after krill attacks

eager harness
molten panther
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I'm not talking about shards. I'm talking about the crawling mechanism.

eager harness
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But if you are bald and crawling, can you light the darkness?

wary star
rustic leaf
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🎵 Watchin' pictures on the wall
That don't bother me at all
Doing trial runs 'til dawn with a group of only one 🎵

eager harness
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If you have an instant recharge potion and are crawling, you can use that. I always keep at least 5 on me, though I hardly use them except for Eden.

pale junco
eager harness
trim spade
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Prophecy had some story. At least there was more context for the trials and they are all different and unique

rustic leaf
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Tgc did say this season was going to be very different, so to me, not having a story like other seasons is reasonable. Would I have liked some story? Yeah, but it's alright that there isn't.

misty star
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So what is happening with this ‘Dark Horn’ in the new season? The season is starting in live very soon yet there’s still only one button for the instrument

autumn elk
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i think its intended to be a war horn, and only have one note

spark lance
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Yup and it's fine
It's a hunt trophy tho

rustic leaf
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Horn is for doot doot

dreamy grail
# kind prawn A story would have been nice, it’s not always a part of each season.. just that ...

Exactly, like assembly was just a band of teens wanting to decorate their treehouse and do fun activities.
If only shattering had a range of different quests that occured during the season would have made it worth it yk? Maybe they could have done shard quests where you collected stuff and brought it to a spirit that opened up a second part of the quest sorta thing? 👀
(That would have made the season better, right?)

  • apologies for the late reply
plain quest
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May I ask where the darkness fallen location today 😥

kindred fossil
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They be at the Ark, nearby the pond

dreamy grail
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Hear me out I just had an idea for the next eden season whenever that happens...

Eden having an area like the distortion world in Pokémon, a flipside vast area to explore with different areas to explore, large islands with damaged buildings, worn down equipment, like as if once one huge island was split up by a huge explosion, a power diamond core (maybe the blue one from the old oob back in pre release)

The islands could have like twisted and decayed darkness plants and large like corrupted bloom trees and such, and maybe like an open realm temple in the middle that don't have gates the interior. Probably like 4 wings in the area and maybe 5 to 7 spirits all spread out. Krills flowing around the area and crabs on the islands.

I'd say plenty of passive form dark creatures like as if they're tamed by the spirits which could be usable to explore the open area after certain quests have been done and like rocks circling the temple on the central island part above the diamond. Maybe a few caves and such on islands which could be cool. Even a bunch of scattered murals and other stuff too pWow

lilac epoch
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Lmao the trial of fire bug where your flame won't fill up is now in live. Noticed that in beta a few weeks ago, sent a report but I guess there weren't enough reports in beta to call attention to it. Gg live players

dreamy grail
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Maybe... I saw some SkyTubers post recently that Fire is basically inaccessible due to bugs

lilac epoch
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Just one of those things we come across here and report but dont get fixed in time for live launch. Welp. They'll get to it eventually. Feel sorry for those desperately running for wax coz of the dor/TS scheds

dreamy grail
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Agreed... SkyDontGo
Though honestly, shards are gunna be useful in live, people at first will be confused but the whole aspect of the dark shards and the wax rewards will become crucial especially towards events/TS', interesting to see how people will approach the use of shards in live

  • guys please remember to use memory candles at the dangerous shards that we've all struggled with here in beta (eg. Starlight, GW, Forest ect)pCry
gilded parrotBOT
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📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
jSkySwitch Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

languid bear
lilac epoch
dreamy grail
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Honestly I was screensharing to my partner, was casually doing the dailies then the sky went red and the shard suddenly fell and we were like AYO WAT THE HECC IS DIS and then we did the quest and we were like YOOOOO this is actually kinda cool.. I did the one in bird's-nest 15 mins later, and found it surprisingly easy... So yes that's my say there :)
(That was on season release for beta)

maiden pond
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I bet it'll be pretty interesting to see how live players react when they get frustrated if they ever do.

lilac epoch
dreamy grail
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Honestly I see most people will avoid the forest shards at first (moreso the one by crab man and the one at end of forest - mainly because few people will go to the end of forest)

lilac epoch
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Wanna see their reactions to the shard in the graveyard pShadow pFIRE

maiden pond
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At least it's not in direct path with krills, right?

lilac epoch
dreamy grail
maiden pond
dreamy grail
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Did y'all see that krills now have limiters to how far they go charging? I find it REALLY useful

lilac epoch
halcyon raft
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The live players reaction to eden and the crawl alone so far has been quite interesting. Especially since the crawl was much worst at first and now its slighly better.pPopcorn

lilac epoch
dreamy grail
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Everyone's loving the shards on the players stuff and the wing shatter icons for sure. Tho the flower glows.... ||FLASHBANG||

scenic pumice
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I tried testing the crawl mechanic when i heard a few days ago it was in live, went to sanctuary to repeatedly be hit but i never gained crawl so im guessing it's more of a krill thing outside of eden stickerPlease

lilac epoch
dreamy grail
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Oh guys there's like a sliding thing for wind walls now (easily testable on top of Prarie temple on the right side), me, my friend and my partner found it really cool when we found it yesterday pWow

dreamy grail
alpine field
dreamy grail
lilac epoch
late timber
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@snow steppe since I cant say it in the live discussion chat im gonna said it here , yes there was a Capeless cape but it was too expensive and you need to fully complete the vault cons and unlock it with 999 hearts , i believe it got removed or was still in beta since is not ready

dreamy grail
lilac epoch
late timber
alpine field
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Yeahhhhh that was a cool change

dreamy grail
snow steppe
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thats crazy. hopefully its just for trolling. right? XD

ack cooldown

dreamy grail
alpine field
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I don’t think they even have any plans to put it on live in the near future as of yet too so

lilac epoch
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But they removed it in beta, didn't they?

dreamy grail
lilac epoch
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Eh. I'll never get it anyway. Have only 50+hearts in beta and 90 in live hahaha, too lazy to farm hearts rofl

alpine field
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Le petit prince scarf cape for the win✨

dreamy grail
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For invis cape... Say you get one heart from Constellation daily, and you do an 18c CR each day too, and you choose to do heart trades getting rid of these candles... That's 7 hearts per day (6 trades and a daily heart from Constellation)... Sooo... 999÷7=143 days

  • perspective if you were dedicated and had all cosmetics, alongside doing eden to give AC to TS
lilac epoch
alpine field
shadow stratus
lilac epoch
alpine field
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5 candles is hard cap for me too, life is grindy enoughCrillKrab

lilac epoch
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When I'm relaxed I'll max out the daylight meter. That's about 15 candles. Then I go back to my 1 or 2 realms a day run SkyLOL

vagrant fable
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Me who had to grind 15 candles per day for Postman last week: sqwarlockDed

lilac epoch
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I'll be honest I buy the candle packs (hide)

vagrant fable
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Oh I sometimes feel tempted but I refuse to spend any more money in this game if I can avoid it, excluding Season Pass and one or 2 IAPs

lilac epoch
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Issokay, I judge me too stickerItsOk I'm just too tired most days to do hardcore runs though once in an odd month I'll run all realms and subrealms just to get a feel for a full candle run (25+/- candles).

vagrant fable
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It's alright, though, if you can afford to buy the packs, there's no problem for you to do it stickerItsOk

alpine field
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Again, life is already grindy, and we got the “adult power”, better put it to good use SkyBoogie

maiden pond
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We need 5x Instant Recharge potions for 5 ascended candles or even 3, if we're to hope we can get up through crawling.

kindred fossil
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The insta recharge potion market is gonna explode in sales & demand, buyers beware of counterfeit recharge potions

hushed arch
lilac epoch
hollow compass
worldly creek
maiden pond
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Agreeing with blepati's statement, capeless is sort of achievable through glitching in Live so honestly if it were available by purchasing in Live, nobody would really care but they'd probably ask you if you got it legitimately or through glitches. That's assuming TGC fails to patch capeless glitches anyways.

hoary goblet
maiden pond
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I don't see the whole point in the demand for capeless anyways, and if it ever came to Live, then making it cost 999 hearts is pretty reasonable, or at least 500 hearts anyways. Just like tier 2 capes costing much more than their original counterpart, they're meant to be a gift of gratitude of friendship between your friends, signifying you have established bonds with them.

shadow stratus
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I think the point is that they meant in case the cape comes with its beta price of 999 hearts people would look down to people who havent

hollow compass
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Why would they do that? I don’t get it. Actually, I don’t get why it matters to anyone if a stranger on the internet decides they are somehow better than you.

maiden pond
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Tier 2 capes in general are meant to be long-term goals and completely optional for players hence why they're never required for Elder hair completion. It's meant as a challenge for players to work with. It's a challenge that the player must form more friendships and grow them as much as possible, I see the point TGC is trying to make with tier 2 capes. It's basically telling players to be social and form bonds with new and old players alike. Of course, both of you need to also be selfless to one another by offering your hard earned candles to each other. The game does a tremendous job of defining altruism overall by making things short term goals or long term goals everyone is working towards.

dry skiff
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how could a tier 2 capeless even exist, what's the change

maiden pond
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If TGC ever does decide to introduce capeless to live, it probably would need to be offered by an Elder, and they need to remove every possible method of capeless glitches to do so because it could cause big confusion to the playerbase. But going off what one dev said, it's unlikely they'd ever introduce capeless to live. But it's theoretically not impossible, either. As for a tier 2 of capeless, I would think maybe... glowing shimmering light particles?

hollow compass
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It is already offered by an Elder.

maiden pond
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I meant if they introduced it in Live, I know it's offered by an Elder in beta. But in beta, things are always subject to changes. But if they kept that, then yeah that would be reasonable.

dry skiff
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it most likely won't even be coming to live anyway

maiden pond
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That's unfortunate but it being a beta exclusive is pretty reasonable.

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Also can you guys confirm something? Before the live update that introduced crawling, you could medium call to instantly make a crab aggro you. But I've noticed in this crawling update, medium calls no longer aggro a crab to attack you instantly. Is this intended now? I was going to use this as a method of distracting those shard crabs once the Shattering season starts in live, and I'd be trying various methods and strategies when it comes to cleansing the darkness of the shard events.

Baiting and distracting the shard crabs to myself while attempting to dodge each one via medium call was one of the strats I was trying to do and before the introduction of the crawl update in live, I used the medium call on regular crabs to make them instantly charge me and dodge as many as I could.

chilly wigeon
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I'm super close to getting the first ultimate cape I'm super excited aSkyRolllll

abstract sky
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Y'all where today shard

minor falcon
fast nebula
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Could you draw one for us, voi, please? I like the sound of the fancy invisible border, would love to see what it might look like ☺️

maiden pond
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What lead you to the conclusion that players would want this over any other TS cosmetics and iAP ones? Everyone has different taste, not saying you're not wrong, but I just don't see how this would affect players in making iAP purchases, because as far as I'm aware in beta it's hearts only and if it were introduced that way, more players may buy candle packs in hopes to get some hearts from past season guides they missed, and/or trade with friends, because it requires so many candles. I'm not sure why it'd be held in such a high degree when it can also be used as a factor to buy candle packs should a player have the ability and funds to do so. That would more or less increase TGC's profit, no?

twin isle
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I disagree about wanting to collect cosmetics. Capeless would be very coveted but just like other coveted cosmetics people would switch up what they wear. Most people ik do that. The capeless cape would become another coveted cosmetic, but saying everyone who had it would only wear that feels a little like an exaggeration.

steady pond
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mfw i can be capeless in live just by making a new account and not picking up the first wl. get on my level /s

narrow current
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I agree with previous comments. Although yes the cape would be highly coveted and wanted its not like people will just decide they will never collect another cosmetic. Idk how long the person who imposed that idea has been playing for but Me personally. Yes i have preferred cosmetics, but i don't dress the same or use my favorite cosmetics 100% of the time.

shadow stratus
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I just wish they would allow you to be capeless, the game killing you because you lost your last wing doesnt make sense to me

hollow compass
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But the wings are Sky kids' power, or the light associated with it. It makes sense we die when we lose it.

shadow stratus
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But we are born without one

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Oh welll, at least weve been getting some small cape options

hollow compass
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Yeah, I don't know. THere's no consistent lore in the game anyway.

sullen relic
# shadow stratus But we are born without one

While it's true sky kids were born without any wings at the beginning, it might not be the state of "having no wings" that gets them killed -- but more the fact they're forcibly ripped out of their body after they've been integrated for a while. You're definitely going to do someone damage if you implant an organ and then rip it out later, even if they weren't living with one before

maiden pond
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You have flame, that's what's keeping you alive. Or at least, that's my perception of it. Once you get 1 winged light, you gain the ability to fly and also act as your energy/overall life remaining. The flame icon above your wedges represents the real energy keeping you alive, once that goes out, and you have no winged lights left, you die because there is no energy source keeping you alive any longer.

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To add to this, capes don't have shadows in the real game, they're purely made of light, implying winged lights are literal light energy given to us by I guess dead Sky children, and it's our duty to deliver the winged lights to 63 of them in Eden. That part doesn't make sense either, cause if there were 105 statues in Eden, I can see that being justified.

shadow stratus
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Ooh wait, i just realized, u refering to all the wings existing in the world as of right now. Apologies lol

maiden pond
# shadow stratus No actually, if you let your last wing fall and light yourself up again, the gam...

What I mean is, when Sky kids are born, they only have their flame keeping them alive. The second they receive a winged light, their life is dependent on it, so even if you lose your last wing and you have your flame still ignited, your Sky kid will be unable to keep themselves alive because they have relied solely on one source of energy the whole time, the flame will no longer save them anymore.

What I meant is that there's 105 winged light in all realms excluding the one you get in Orbit, so if those winged lights were dead Sky children remnants that we were supposed to pick up and deliver through Eden, it would make more sense if there were 105 statues rather than 63.

shadow stratus
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Yeah, i guess thats just for gameplay purposes where its expected for you to lose some on the process, but makes sense.
They would have to add new statues in a bunch of updates tho SkyLOL

maiden pond
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Also... I'm not sure why in Eden point of no return, as soon as you lose your last wing, your Sky kid doesn't immediately die like in every other realm, but rather, take a moment to pass on and ascend.

hollow compass
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because dramatic effect

maiden pond
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I guess that makes sense, final stage of life and all.

chrome pelican
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Hi

golden steppe
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Guys, i have to ask (since i lost the message in this channel). Which memories were the ones that had winged lights? i know the last one didn't and i believe the 1st one but I'm not sure
(Nvm, found it)

glass spoke
chrome pelican
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Ok

woeful obsidian
sand dawn
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uh..windwall piercing table spell trick no longer works..? pCry

woeful obsidian
sterile cobalt
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thinking about how a lot of discussion on the days of rainbow iap were about the money going to charity but the only one that said there would be donations for was the double rainbow pack 😭 anyways any updates yet?

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oh wait i can just check the playstore

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kinda sad about only one seeming to donate though SkyCry

grizzled arrow
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I‘ve been through gw now but couldn‘t find the shard 😒 Can anyone give me a hint please?

spark lance
quiet obsidian
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no days of summer testing yet? sqwarlockDed

kindred fossil
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Won’t be for awhile

woeful obsidian
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Time for update.. 🙏😮‍💨

calm wedge
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Anyone sinking on the Lost ark?

shadow stratus
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Ive never been wanting an beta update so bad, so curious about it

visual temple
# woeful obsidian in crab and plants... In whale... In manta

Hi, could I bother you and ask if you remember which realms they are associated to?
I’ve tried relieving every quest numerous times, but as we all know by know, it isn’t working.
The only memories I can seem to get are jellyfish, krills, whales and the diamond…

woeful obsidian
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No. Sorry. It's random I think.

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The crab was yesterday at village. But today in arc its the diamond.

visual temple
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Darn, I took one day off and missed the crab SkyFaint
I am not liking the scheduled quests one bit. Thank you anyway 🙏

worldly scarab
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Did the elder protection hair persisted in live?

glacial barn
visual temple
# glacial barn I don't think it's locked to a specific realm, not that long ago I completed a s...

Hello Airi! Yes, that happened to me also, but I brushed it off as one of the numerous bugs… now I wonder…
Neither of us has seen the crabs since the very first quests though; I’m starting to wonder… where exactly was the event taking place yesterday?

  • I should add that when that happened, my friend hadn’t received a “quest complete” at some point, so they were one quest behind me at the time
glacial barn
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I have no clue, didn't log into beta yesterday - so far when I had stumbled upon shard events, it has been an actual stumble

warped berry
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Why is it all in English? I can't understand my English or keyboard.😩

dreamy grail
# worldly scarab Did the elder protection hair persisted in live?

This feature was removed as it was accidentally added at the start of shattering testing. Was removed after a few days pPopcorn

@warped berry because mods can only moderate English chat and using translators when most the mods are on PC/Laptop make modding other languages (especially during active hours/reveal times - such as TS release) REALLY REALLY difficult

fair glen
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⚠️ some people are getting hacked!! If anyone is sent a link and told to go to “EXPOSED” server by DM from friend or stranger DO NOT SCAN A QR⚠️

I almost got hacked but I checked info on the “bot” that sent it and there was a warning that, that bot never sends QRs

dreamy grail
chilly wigeon
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How many seasonal candles can you get a day from the bunchs on beta

kindred fossil
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20, 4 each realm

chilly wigeon
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Is there some kind of guide for the seasonals in beta somewhere

kindred fossil
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No, they’re discouraged & get removed

carmine thorn
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The reasoning why guides are a no go in beta: How can we test how an uninformed player can find things if we follow fan made guides?

chilly wigeon
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I keep missing one bunch in wasteland so I always end up with half a candle at the end

carmine thorn
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If you have trouble finding something in beta, it's good to leave #beta-feedback so TGC knows they hid something too well for the average player to find.

chilly wigeon
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I finally found out they hid one of the seasonals under the ice in valley recently aSkyRolllll

gilded parrotBOT
#

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here pSkyLove Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

vagrant fable
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Would one still able to get all the stuff in the light memory trees with the amount of time we (supposedly) have left of the season testing?

iron elbow
shadow stratus
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I mean a second half of shattering doesnt exactly means we getting more days to complete tho

chilly wigeon
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I was doing the shards and almost lost so many wl

iron elbow
shadow stratus
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No i mean, we dont need the season to test the stuff i think pThink
There will be no more new cosmetics for the pass so i guess not

iron elbow
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why would it have shattering in the name then pEyes

shadow stratus
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Cause its part of it still SkyProud
I think maybe they want it to end so we can test how stuff will work after it ends on live?
But idk im just saying, they will most likely add more days
But better not risk if you want the items on beta pEyes

chilly wigeon
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I kinda wish we got a light themed mask and not just one mask

shadow stratus
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I hope we get an item or two from the guide's tree

iron elbow
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there aren't many light mask ideas that would fit the theme tbh
aside from a whale mask, ofc, tgc please

chilly wigeon
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I just don't have any masks on my beta account that would match the theme. what mask would match with the light themed items

iron elbow
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I've been wearing forgetful storyteller's mask from performance for my jelly prince outfit, and fortune's bull mask as more of a general light outfit
Tbh, just the base game masks would probably work pThink

chilly wigeon
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I quit live for like 2 years so I missed 6 or so seasons and most of the days of so I don't have alot

plush marsh
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Just wait till anniversary hat is out people: cosplay techno while crying totally not me

chilly wigeon
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Is it a crown

distant yoke
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Hey everyoneee, I'm attempting to make some sort of rough map of where shard events take place!! Could anyone who has pictures and rough details of where in the map it is DM me a photo and a word description (if possible) of where it was thanks in advance!! (please @ me if you can't DM me I think you should be able to) :p

misty bone
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just wanna comment, too many red crabs for the shards... i dun even see a normal crab now.. orz... so pain even for ark .. 10++ crabs all gang up against me to collect the shards sighs...

spark lance
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testing my connection

serene elk
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hello, and sorry if this is a wrong chat but i wanted to ask if there is still time in sky when eden doesn’t explode in the season. it’s that while i appreciate the more grim and mysterious season i still love the calming atmosphere of the game and i’m wondering if that changes. PLEASE let me know if this is the wrong chat i will move it :)

chilly wigeon
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The explosion is only at certain times its quicker in beta but it will take longer in live

viral crater
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Hello. Does anyone know where do the Eden shard fall today in golden wasteland. I am not able to find them TIA

gilded parrotBOT
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I ate it stickerYum

viral crater
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Also when is season of shattering getting released on Live version?

scarlet heron
river oriole
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Hello, how many winglight available in season of shattering?

distant yoke
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I've seen 2 so far, one in a memory with mantas and one hidden with fish

shrewd knot
royal spire
tough quartz
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Do we have to redo quests to gain back the wing lights in this season?

trim spade
long coyote
chilly zenith
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i think i might just skip those winged lights

proud coral
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Is the shard event today only at the Ark? Oreopaws Just double checking, couldn't find any others!

trim spade
chilly zenith
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i choose not have 12 wings pCoolKid i'll do those quests for the season but thats about it

trim spade
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Fair enough

prisma swallow
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Could anyone send screenshots from 3rd anniversary event? Couldn’t find any in #beta-screenshots-videos, the latest stuff is just shards

agile hazel
steady pond
lilac epoch
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Posting for confirmation/corrections:

Known Shard Locations --

Prairie: Entrance (muffin rock area), Cave, Temple, Sanctuary (turtle island), Birds Nest, Sanctuary (main island)

Forest: Treehouse, Brook, Grandma's area, Boneyard (beneath tower), Entrance

Valley: Frozen lake (before entrance to sliding race), Village (near Dreams guide), Hermit valley

Wasteland: Entrance (facing dock/boat to the ark), Graveyard, Battlefield, Shipwreck, Ark (scarecrow's field)

Vault: Starlight Desert (greedy merchant's shipwreck), Starlight desert (by the rose)

[Pings okay for edits to this list] thanks, fam SkyHighFive

strange glen
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the shard event is every 30 minutes and starts at reset right?
and is the event then in every realm or is it like daily quest every day another realm/location?

lilac epoch
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The shards are only found in one realm each day but all realms show the animation for eden exploding.

strange glen
gilded parrotBOT
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📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
jSkySwitch Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

olive wolf
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Is the ultimate umbrella available in sky beta? I see a sus memory candle I'm thinking of reporting

strange glen
cursive tinsel
lilac epoch
frozen coral
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The vaults are so quiet

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I assume no darkness is falling there?

hollow compass
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It falls somewhere in the Starlight desert

proud coral
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Maaan I know there's a bit of a love/hate relationship with Shattering but I've been putting off playing since the season really started and am just familiarizing myself with it now. I'm having more fun in Sky than I've had in months? A year? I love the difficulty spike pFIRE Soloing these shard events gives me life! I know the challenge is definitely not for everyone but I'm having a ton of fun! SkyYay I do miss spirits but I like the fact that they're trying something new with how seasons work. A bit of a miss for me in terms of the questline/memories but I like the seasonal hub a lot and I hope we can visit again after the season ends!

abstract oar
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sorry if this isn't allowed but does anyone have a list of the season of shattering cosmetics with images somewhere, preferably also showing what is ap locked and what isn't pFIRE i need to decide if i want the pass or not and i cant find a complete list of the cosmetics for some reason SkyDeepBow SkyDeepBow

gilded parrotBOT
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I ate it stickerYum

hollow compass
cursive tinsel
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The word ' season ' means something changing over time on a theme in games and in life. Shattering just didn't feel like that. More like an event that stays as it is like geyser

hollow compass
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Or even just a big game mechanics change. I think most people are used to and will expect seasons being story-driven.

mighty arch
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When eden get eruption?

mortal rivet
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Thank youuu

hollow compass
gilded parrotBOT
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The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1656831600:F> (In 21 hours 51 minutes 8 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

hollow compass
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Or did you mean shards?

dreamy grail
# proud coral Maaan I know there's a bit of a love/hate relationship with Shattering but I've ...

YESSSSSSSSSS, agreedd, as much as early testings been, it's been super fun throughout the season, with fewer bugs regarding shards and the voids it's made stuff interesting. The new methods for wax, interesting cosmetics, TGC showing off what they can do with large open spaces it's really interesting, and I really can't wait for it to drop to live, even if we have next to no lore/storyline as much as we'd all hoped... There's always the Collab and the season afterwards to look forward to... Along with all the upcoming events to look forward to as well, alongside seeing familar faces from the likes of Dreams, Assembly, LP (hopefully) and maybe even a splash of Flight too for upcoming TS' !!!

@hollow compass they did

mighty arch
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Some people get eden eruption(shard eruption) in live sky, is it true?

dreamy grail
mighty arch
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I see, thank you

spark lance
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Hey, Beta testers, does anyone have any ideas about how TGC will schedule shards seasonal quest in the live version?

agile hazel
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Only thing we know is that it starts frequently and slows down over the season

rustic leaf
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I'm... gonna have to be more careful about when I do quests OreoScream I've been leaving them to the last minute in live recently and that's not going to work well if there's a shard daily that day

dreamy grail
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Reminder guys, it's best keeping beta stuff out of pfps and banners for the sake of not spoilering people pAww
Take care beta chat stickerWave

lilac epoch
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I wish they'd let us buy more recharge potions for AC. It's ironic that pots are stackable in our inventories but we can only buy 1 measly pot every so often. Since the shards give AC rewards now, a little adjustment to the purchase options won't hurt the economy (not like this is an mmorpg known for its economy anyway), imo it'll balance out the surplus currencies just fine. <already sent FeedbackPlease on it, just ranting out loud>

kindred fossil
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See, the insta recharge market is booming

lilac epoch
shadow stratus
autumn elk
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I think deep calling should still be able to recharge to an extent, just because eden is particularly punishing when you are trying to help newer players.

Maybe it doesnt fill up as many wedges as before (or it just gives then enough to not be extinguished) and doesn’t help recharge your own wing like relighting an extinguished player does.

I carried a moth to eden yesterday and i had to decide if helping them was worth me potentially crawling and losing most of my wings because obviously they dont fully understand.

shadow stratus
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I think if it do something , it could at least help the shards on the crawling sky kids body to break faster and then taking them off the crawling mode

wary star
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are the shattering events supposed to happen in live? the eden mountain is red, i'm currently in prairie caves and my screen just started violently shaking

autumn elk
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I dont know how easy it would be to implement a “cooldown” between being relit by a call. So you cant be charged with further calls you would need a light source for a specified amount of time.

It would keep most of the challenge but not punish people (especially in eden) for helping new players.

topaz rover
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the one application of being lit back by a candle cannot work is (and i know this is a very specific situation that won't happen 99% of the time but it happened to me once one day)
is if you fall in the oil ocean far from the shoar in golden wasteland
since you can't pull out your candle while swimming, your only way out was if someone came to hover above you with a honk, but now you're better off quitting the game and logging back up

#

also I'd like to point out than since the patch came out, i've been and seen other players get in trouble in golden wasteland and each time that i went to help that person, everyone in the area rushed to help that player as well, which surprised me a little but, not in a bad way pCry

the pop up notification letting people know someone is in danger is really nice

maiden pond
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I'm going to submit feedback soon on #live-feedback about what options the players are limited to when injured to a crawl. My idea, as I've said before here, is simple: make a user interface on the top of the screen near the wing/star icon that indicates a selection of potions available for use, so that way when are down, you're not spending extra time going through the emote menu, to the spells section, then needing to find that dang potion. Likewise, we also need 5 instant recharge potions for 3 or 5 ascended candles because lord knows we'll need it.

topaz rover
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i've taken a habit to get at least one recharge potion since i started playing the game whenever i would go to the forgotten ark so i have a good amount stored up but you're right, the current amount you can obtain daily is too low.

I'm not sure why buying spells is limited at all (because most of them really don't do anything special), except to not let people waste all their candles on them idk SkyShrug

maiden pond
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I just submitted my feedback, I can only hope TGC considers it, I know it will be read, but I know it will need extra work to implement the feature, so I'm not sure if they'll consider it or not. There's so much feedback going around that even the best ones and ones that do get the devs talking, may or may not make the cut to the final game.

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Instant Recharge Potions have become such a necessity now, and it's a big brain move to get players to buy candle packs probably to buy them, so why not make there be one that has 10 recharge potions for like 15 candles because they're now necessary due to being knocked to a crawl. It's basically a good idea.

topaz rover
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i mean, it would sound like a no brainer to me

maiden pond
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You'd think, right? SkyWhew

topaz rover
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buy all the recharge potions pFIRE
now imagine if you could make a delivery from the ark to a spirit somewhere else and get retribution with recharge potions or something
that'd be sweet but mostly wishful thinking xD

wise pagoda
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Wait so is the 5th quest confirming that the bones GW graveyard is whales or

topaz rover
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i don't know about confirmation but the bones sure are whale size-ish

hollow compass
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The call that you get there is called the whale call, so I would assume so.

topaz rover
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isn't that call from forest?
though to be fair they could be the same creature either way nevermind xD

hollow compass
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Oh, wait I misread. Please ignore.

woeful obsidian
topaz rover
dapper vigil
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hi, how to be b tester?

chilly wigeon
dapper vigil
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ok ty.

dreamy grail
native terrace
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Anyone know where the vault shard will be

dreamy grail
native terrace
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Thanks :)

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Also pain is returning after a break only to see 6 days left of beta season

Lmao I just want the manta ult cape at least

chilly wigeon
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I only need one more day till I can get the ultimate manta cape the jelly cape is 42 candles but I can get like 20 a day

minor falcon
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you can get up to 25 seasonals in beta per day

chrome ivy
maiden pond
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You should see in #eden-spoilers to see how frustrated I am, but yet, it feels rewarding to take bigger risks than before.

chrome ivy
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Crystal event that gives AC was a good thing in the end, because it makes Eden no one going for it. Because it makes New player afraid. Even veterans would afraid lose the wings too quick. They was an attempt to force player's coop. Because in coop with your friends and good communication gives better rewards

desert token
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when doing the ac shards the amount of ascended candles you receive will decrease if someone else is helping you. you don’t receive the same amount (i.e. it’s better to do them solo than with others)

lyric kite
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I think the minimum is still like 2 AC per shard event though, isn't it? Even if others are helping you. So it can still be nice for players who maybe only need a few for the TS or something, although it's still not a full replacement for Eden

autumn elk
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I dont think its good that you need recharge potions for eden. I think they need to add more cover or at least some more statues at the very end.

Went in with 157 and couldn’t make it to the final statue and i used 2 instant charge

I think the devs are trying to discourage weekly eden runs and encourage completing shards.

The only point in eden (for lower wing count players) is actually getting buffs/elder ultimates at this point.

golden sparrow
stoic adder
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Hii! Please, where is the dark plant of today located? SkyBow I've done all vault and didn't see anything. Also I have to do the 3rd quest but haven't found the dark plant stickerGloomy

gilded parrotBOT
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Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! stickerLove Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

graceful crow
spark lance
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quick question: ppl who seem to walk on their knees are always hackers?

kindred fossil
chilly wigeon
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I saw someone today who always had the hug icon on them to click on and I couldn't tell if it was a glitch or something else

spark lance
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ok ty for the reply. I usually come across moths in beta that are walking on their knees but nothing suspicious other than that. so i would just keep the reporting for more confirmed cases of hacking.

kindred fossil
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They’re wearing the chibi mask on their end

spark lance
chilly wigeon
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They were also doing other friend emotes I do have the person in one of my screenshots

spark lance
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so far we just have a pin for piggyback afaik

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Recently i am seeing more of such ppl in live a lot. like every other day but then we aren't allowed to talk about it here

stiff furnace
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Hey, I have a small question about the season. After doing the first quest the area changes. Where can we access the "spirits"(calling them spirits for simplicity) and their trees to buy the cosmetics after the realm changes? Since it looks like they dissapear.

spark lance
raw wasp
spark lance
raw wasp
vernal steppe
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Random question, what is the average amount of ac you can get from shard explosion events?

carmine thorn
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In beta, the consensus was 2-4 AC per red shard event. This number may be different in the live version of the game.

vernal steppe
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Alrighty thank you!!

iron elbow
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I've gotten 4 on the last ark shard, but idk if that's that shard's thing, or is it because I did it completely solo pThink

spark lance
kindred fossil
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Those shards are going to be a nightmare to document for guides

spark lance
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Is that rhythm mask in ur pfp? SkyDontGo SkyDontGo
i thought u are enchantment moth SkyCozy

eager harness
astral trellis
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tgc making players confused and mad seems to be the theme for the past... year

spark lance
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I am happy they sent patch notes for 0.18.0 in live using inbox, i hope it is used more frequently to explain things. A lot of players don't have discord

carmine thorn
# spark lance It again comes down to "if we aren't on discord then the SoS will be 2× confusin...

Only 2x confusing? There is no in game hint at all which area in a realm the shards might fall, the frequency or timing of the shards. Without a fan made guide, no one in game would know when these shards happen and they're required for the quests. At least for the table of belonging or other social light areas, you don't have to be there during an event to complete a seasonal quest or daily. I would say at least 10x more confusing for players who aren't in any Sky social media circles.

eager harness
iron elbow
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I can already imagine shattering moths running around the entire world of sky, only to miss the eruption window at the shard's realm, and being utterly confused on what exactly are they supposed to find

spark lance
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I'm glad I started looking through beta chat because I bet that if I hadn't, when the season starts I would have been extremely confused 🥲

iron elbow
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the first thing live players will do is yelling at the giga crabs SkyProud

spark lance
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My wording on that died but u get the point sqwarlockDed

shadow stratus
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Hoping to see some balance updates and maybe even new event(s) next week or the other one ahead

eager harness
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😂😂😂 “deep calls for the crabs Oh s***!”

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That will be new moths.

chrome ivy
spark lance
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My internet already does that for me stickerGloomy

twin isle
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If tgc would just allow us to redo shard events until we get the 4 ac max we wouldn't have to worry about figuring out how to most efficently get as many ac as possible since we can only be rewarded once per shard area sqwarlockDed

trim spade
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Wait so even when there are two shard areas you can get 4 ac per shard?

trail portal
trim spade
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This season wouldn’t have made sense to me at all without this chat and some basic info that patch notes gave us. We were told that the shards fall every 30 min, and then others shared what their experience is in here. I think it would be impossible for a moth to figure this season out by themselves even if they started at the very beginning. Normally, moths don’t even get getting wl or collecting wax right from the start. There’s a moth that follows me in live, that speaks some kinda alien language and even that rarely, that doesn’t know what candles do, after a month in game. Every time I adopt a moth I explain to them what a season is, what spirits are, what sc are, and what the dailies and seasonal quests are. That’s for a normal season where it’s pretty clear. This season’s quest prompt is as vagus as it could be. Seek a memory in a kingdom of sky???? What? Even me a 2 year vet was having a hard time with that description. I had to have known ahead of time that it’s about burning the shards. This season is impossible for moths to finish it solo. But I guess the point of this game is to play it with friends who’ll explain things to you. However not every moth is that fortunate

trim spade
shadow stratus
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Merges will happen much more easily on the shards compared to beta, at least if the servers works properly, recently i feel like merging is barely working on live

trim spade
ashen tusk
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dropped by to see if there's anything new happening in beta but I see no update and the shards are as broken and stressful as ever, I honestly haven't played beta aside from hopping on to light friends when I get a chance since the update went to live, I feel like I don't have anything further to add in terms of feedback until something new comes cause aside from complaining about the same issues over and over I just ??? don't know what else to say ???

trail portal
ashen tusk
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It always ends up being the grandma shards that I never merge at pFIRE

eager harness
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No communication from the devs is very disheartening to a game that is supposed to be fun and friend oriented.

#

And I know it’s Saturday. I don’t mean today. I mean all the days before today. Crickets. Nothing.

trail portal
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They were pretty responsive a few days ago but didn't really confirm anything about changes to the season just that theres more to it

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Definitely could use a lot more communication tho

visual temple
torn robin
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I literally drew from memory of the new cosmetics to relize I added extra hair points to one of the new shattering hairs 😔 although it looks nice

trail portal
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The lack of communication wouldnt bother me so much if so much of it was concern for new players and for people with medical stuff like epilepsy and there being no flash warnings for this season

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They havent even told us if theres a plan for the flashing yet as far as i know and thats pretty concerning considering the season is right around the corner for live

torn robin
ashen tusk
# visual temple I feel exactly the same. Aside from trying (unsuccessfully) to catch the right m...

I tried going back to old memories to get WL by interacting with them via the guide and then going to do the shard quest and meditating but I still just go back to the final memory so I don't think I'll be getting those WL anytime soon, maybe I should go feedback that, but as for anything else I don't have anything more to say.
Is it natural to feel so despondent as a tester? I started off really excited but I've lost a lot of energy and motivation and it's not like I play beta daily, I do have burnout in general when it comes to sky and I'm not sure if it's from let downs in beta or from the let down in the whole grind atmosphere sky has become with constant high price ts and events, but I'm just overall just fed up and idk if anybody else is feeling the same because of beta specifically or just in general?

gilded parrotBOT
#

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
jSkySwitch Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

trail portal
trail portal
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Theres supposed to be another update for shattering so maybe there is some hope that theyll actually consider safety

torn robin
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They already got their warehouse burnt one sue and that’s gonna be a bigger issue

visual temple
torn robin
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There legit could be a child with epilepsy and have a seizure and that moms gonna be like “WELL I CAN STILL CHARGE YOU BECAUSE U DIDNT PUT A WARNING IN THE GAME”

#

Every game I know that has flash has a warning inside the game! It’s literally illegal not to in most areas

#

The advertisements don’t have any warning either I’ve literally watched every signal one no warning on tik tok or YouTube

#

They just slap that advertisement and be like “money is more valuable than someone’s safety “

visual temple
# torn robin Every game I know that has flash has a warning inside the game! It’s literally i...

And TGC is the only company I know that makes its game more taxing on the visual and nervous system rather than less, after receiving countless feedback to that effect.

I seriously couldn’t believe the thickness of the red fog, especially in Wasteland. I’m like “Oh, I get it, you just don’t give a damn”. That, for me, is the sort of thing that leads to burnout. The game breaking, known flaws that never get fixed.

torn robin
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first I thought it was sus they made a hudge ad AFTER the ocean cape and shell necklace and all, now that I’m realizing tgc has noticeably stopped caring about things like warnings and problematic issues and shown that they are now corrupted by cash! Like look at the shattering season tasks!! “Oh you’ll love this season EVEN THO ITS THE SAME TASKS and no cutscenes after we just slapped on some models Yw!”

#

They wanted to bring something new and amazing but it just feels so rushed and meaningless

long coyote
languid bear
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SoSh makes me so disappointedsqwarlockDed

spark lance
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It's difficult to keep any sort of attachment to sky when it's become so repetitive and unfriendly to photosensitive users sqwarlockDed

ashen tusk
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I wonder if there's a better way to flag these issues than in the feedback channels where it gets lost amongst other stuff, I know Sago passes our feedback to the devs working on the season but surely there is someone else outwith the team who should be working on the health and safety side of things and making sure sky complies with standards which include making sure flashing lights etc. are included in warnings?

torn robin
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Honestly it makes me feel like this is like the ace family from YouTube “we are gonna help the community in donation!” And steal half the cash afterwards

long coyote
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Anyone reading my name and silently agreeing...?
Edit: I knew it. This game was gonna die at one point...

trail portal
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I hope the people who play on live get just as upset about this as we did in beta just so they know that they should actually change some of the stuff we have been complaining about for so long

ashen tusk
spark lance
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I've a feeling it will be better received than we think but I still agree this beta testing period could have been handled better

torn robin
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I remember when we begged them to fix the problem with the prince season because people would force to be in a different server and tgc straight up said “no”

trail portal
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Yea but honestly i dont think it should be, not to like invalidate anyones feelings on the season but it could be genuinely harmful for some players and they havent put warnings

ashen tusk
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There's a lot of people in live channels that seem really excited for the season and I know at least some of those have seen beta spoilers so they know what's in store and usually the ones who are worried are mainly because they've heard us lot complaining SkySneak
I think there's bound to be people with the same concerns that we've had here though, and tgc should definitely address the issues of flashing lights etc. before the season begins in live or they're risking a lot if they don't

torn robin
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I had even read some of the comments on the app you can see people have issues like “losing their account forever even tho they have proof they paid for these items” “not being able to play with others because of how laggy it is”

languid bear
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Is it too much of a wish for TGC staff to say something about the topic that is being talked about on this channel? I want to hear TGC's opinionsqwarlockDed

trail portal
ashen tusk
chilly wigeon
torn robin
long coyote
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Yo, Devs! If anyone's lurking, can y'all say hi or somethin'?

trail portal
chilly wigeon
trail portal
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Ohhh ok that makes more sense lol i dont even know what i was thinking my brain just kept telling me it couldn't be a winged light hahah

long coyote
languid bear
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At this rate, one day people will be tired of Sky and leave! There's already quite a few people leakingsqwarlockDed

torn robin
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Fr now I know why veterans leave 😔

chilly wigeon
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I'm excited for this season no matter how bad it is and this chat just makes me sad sometimes

ashen tusk
# torn robin No they probably don’t even care to be honest and honestly I have a feeling they...

They're definitely not going around banning people for criticising them, like I just said a moment ago there's been multiple devs who have dropped by especially after the live announcement the other day to address some concerns, but again I think there needs to be something done internally on their end so they better communicate their dealings with the issues that are majorly concerning for people's health, ability to play, etc. like I understand not addressing certain bugs immediately or not giving us a step by step of everything they're currently working on, but something needs changing

@chilly wigeon try not to feel too disheartened by the opinions shared here, everybody will view their experiences differently and you may well really enjoy the season, there's plenty of testers who have had positive things to say too, but vocally the negative tends to be seen a lot more because we're repeating frustrations that aren't being addressed appropriately

torn robin
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It would be a dream come true if they actually did something about it pCry

carmine thorn
chilly wigeon
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It's just the people saying everything about the season is bad and acting like it's the end of sky as we know itaSkyRollPride

languid bear
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I hope TGC will announce and deal with the topics that have been mentioned a lot in beta feedback. Current state, It makes me feel as if the TGC doesn't really care about feedback, even though tries to remind me that devs are working hard in the dark.

ashen tusk
# carmine thorn I am sure there are staff at TGC who care. We have to keep in mind, there are st...

Precisely this, I think when devs do drop by they try to acknowledge stuff to the best of their abilities, but not all of them are in a position to officially comment (and some don't even know or have the answer cause it's not their current focus of work) - that's why I firmly believe, having their testers recruited through their discord and all, that they should make sure they do have someone(s) who are in a position to make official comments on important issues that we raise.

shadow stratus
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Considering the time it has been since the last actual update, there might be some big amount of changes coming soon

torn robin
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honestly it sucks too that their pushing payments up your nose as well when we all are litterly going into the depression stage, 20 bucks for one item is unreal

trail portal
chilly wigeon
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I guess I'll just wait for the next update to make or break the season

trail portal
astral trellis
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unless the collab season is good i feel like sky really will go downhill. the way they originally treated DoR without thinking 'hmm maybe this is a bad idea' for example

shadow stratus
ashen tusk
# chilly wigeon It's just the people saying everything about the season is bad and acting like i...

Definitely doubt it's the end of sky, for people that don't enjoy this season, I definitely imagine future seasons and events will come that they do enjoy and vice versa. We all won't like everything tgc put out and naturally with this being something different than what we're all used to with seasons, it's understandable that there's a lot of more outspoken dismissal. But again, I don't think it'll mean the end of sky even if it does end up being a badly received change in live also - tgc have been open about trying something new to try and address previous feedback they've had and I guess at the moment (health issues not pertaining) it's like marmite, some love it and some don't

lilac epoch
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Shattering will likely be tweaked and adjusted in live

languid bear
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Mayday🚨 next to Gayday

shadow stratus
torn robin
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It’s not really the season being bad it’s the epilepsy issue

shadow stratus
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They do have to do something about the lighting stuff, the grandma shard blinds me

trail portal
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Some of the shards are hard to find in all the red fog too i think theres a lot of visual stuff they need to work out

torn robin
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Actually I’ll give you guys an issue as well I had recently gotten my eyes checked and my eyesight has gotten worse and I’ve been playing sky for most of the days so yes the light is a hudge issue

ashen tusk
# shadow stratus Every time i read someone saying that sky is going to die i give a little chuckl...

I know several games that deserve to die that haven't yet, so I'm not too concerned about sky ending if this season is received badly SkySneak I'm more so just fed up of the grinding issue currently and I was expecting more from this season, but I know that other events and seasons will probably give me what I feel is lacking here, so I'll just wait and see.

Again the health concerns need seriously addressing before the season begins in live but I don't know if they're working on it or have already made any adjustments, I guess we won't know until it starts. This is why tgc need to communicate better.

spark lance
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Yes unfortunately even the season that arrives to live will have some small tweaks that beta hadn't seen in the last moments and if not then those small fixes will come soon enough. I do hope the lighting issue is better in live than it was in beta.

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i understand the concerns ppl have here but thr game is literally about "light" and darkness.
TGC atleast communicate with the players. not 100% everytime but they do.
I haven't seen any other game's devs do even that much tbh.
I've had a few complaints abt the season and most of them were bugs.
I don't see SoS to be flop or anything. I liked the season. There cud have been a little more lore but it isn't totally bad.
Sometimes i just feel og opinions are less but influenced opinions are much more.

ashen tusk
torn robin
steady pecan
torn robin
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Perhaps

twin isle
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I just want a bloom slider in settings and a dark mode for load screens so I don't get flashbanged every time I load into a realm

ashen tusk
# torn robin Well yeh not fully sky’s fault but the brightness is somewhat a issue as well

I'd definitely recommend fiddling with your own device's settings because there may be some that you can adjust to help limit further damage or sensitivity - it may affect your gameplay at first, but after a while you should adjust to it. I don't know how feasible it is for tgc to add specific adjustable/toggleable options for all light settings, but if they're gonna stick with the rave shards (less so than they were originally but they're still quite bad for those who have serious health concerns) then they need need need to add official warnings if they can't adjust them!

Also take breaks often to rest your eyes and stay hydrated, naturally we should all do this as much as possible because self care and all! Take care everybody pWow stickerHug

steady pecan
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I had a weird theory that is a stretch, but bear with me
What if there were cutscenes TGC is working on but haven’t released in beta yet because they’re done separately and are kept as a surprise due to spoilers being leaked (YouTube especially)

ashen tusk
steady pecan
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I hope Orbit gets tweaked more because I remember the place having this sharp contrast of blue and white, but now most of the time the area looks like there’s a lot of hazy purple fog, especially when looking at the constellations. It’s hard to see them

hybrid venture
steady pond
shadow stratus
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The orbit was always kinda weird and the LP update made it worse with some weird pink lighting in some areas lol

twin isle
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I like the pink sqwarlockDed

steady pecan
ashen tusk
shadow stratus
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Problem isnt the pink itself for me, its how the lighting changes every step your camera moves aha

steady pecan
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I miss the dark blue and white ambience
The shine glare effect on the spirits are too much for me. So many stretched lines and when the spirits leave in a certain ending of a season, they’re not even trails of light, just spikes

shadow stratus
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I have nice expectations for the second part of shattering , considering i am pretty ok with what we have so far. I hope they work on the flashy lighting issues

ashen tusk
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I think some of the issues are device specific? does this mean tgc needs to work more on optimisation across the board?

steady pecan
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You would think that after the manta emerged from the water from that one cutscene, there would be manta flying around, which would have been useful when flying above water, but I was disappointed for the rest of the season

spark lance
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I feel like the beta chat has been full of reflecting on the lighting issues and lack of story but gotta admit the concept and cosmetics are pretty neat atleast

visual temple
steady pecan
ashen tusk
steady pecan
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That Wind Paths entrance had a lighting change. I’m not sure if it was a bug or something in the programming that went wrong or if it’s related to the season

ashen tusk
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I miss Wes in beta, I wish we had more of his chaos to consume here but maybe after implementing the missile shards he hasn't had much else to do with the season SkyThink

raw wasp
shadow stratus
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Grandma areas had the characters glowing like the sun even tho there was a lot of shadows, thankfully it was fixed with the abyss lighting changes i think

twin isle
# raw wasp Bloom is basically that effect where white cosmetics are like super radiant in d...

Ik you didn't say it was the only effect, but I want to clarify for others reading that bloom isn't just white cosmetics; the white cosmetics are the best way absolutely to see it in action, but you can see it with yellow capes and other stuff as well. it's just the way light causes a color bleed off of objects, clothes, etc. Skyrim had a bloom filter you could adjust iirc and it just took the color bleed from the sun shining on them and made it less intense.

raw wasp
chilly wigeon
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Why is there so many moths in beta recently it seems like moths with 2-3 stars are everywhere

keen egret
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Is the season complete? Or is there a chance that the live release will bring something new?

chilly wigeon
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There's still the second half

raw wasp
carmine thorn
astral trellis
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if people actually get hurt from the lighting without a warning there's the potential for tgc to get into legal trouble

long coyote
shadow stratus
languid bear
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Someone might say most of us overreact, but we just give feedback before the problem gets out of hand. That's the role of beta users...
But... already spilled water, there's not much time left, and I'm just sorry for the shattering moth.sqwarlockDed

visual ocean
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Traumatizing moths since July 2022 sqwarlockDed

random edge
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Did shards with a random person today and our wl went flying. No worries because we can always find them again. Love getting ascended candles this way instead of having to go to eden. The thing that made me sad today was the 4 player door. There were two of us waiting and two people glitched in to do spirit instead of helping.

solid dune
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Omg when season of shattering comes out I’ll get 200 WL pWow unless there’s new TS before then stickerShiny

strange glen
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12 wings will look ugly sqwarlockDed

eager harness
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Was there just a beta wave that I wasn’t aware of? Where are all of these new moffs coming from? I just encountered like 5 tonight.

strange glen
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idk 10 or 11 looks clean but i guess 12 will hurt my eye 😂

eager harness
sullen relic
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Strictly speaking, what you saw isn't entirely impossible to do in the normal game: if you give yourself an instrument with a temporary spell, and keep playing it even when the spell runs out, you'll appear to be playing whatever prop you were holding before the spell transformation -- and in the case of nothing, you'd probably appear to be playing thin air

eager harness
random edge
# eager harness Were you just attempting to do that not too long ago? I apologize if I was one o...

No, this was earlier and there were two of us and two of them. I understand glitching when you are alone and no one is there. This was just an example of when there would be four of us needed to open something and two of us were actually there waiting and they glitched right in front. No worries in that we are so far along in the season we don’t need the candles but I just wish people were more considerate

gilded parrotBOT
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Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here pSkyLove Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

eager harness
strange glen
eager harness
eager harness
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That really is. So they aren’t really hackers? I get so confused. I try to always report them. Just play fair like everyone else.

random edge
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I report them - if there is the odd case they aren’t a hacker, I’m sure TGC can easily figure it out

strange glen
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this happend one time in forest underground door
a chibi glitched over and over while i waited there until i used chibi spell and did myself
why do people need to be extra rude like kjgfaklgholrgh i wish those people nothing good pFIRE

split spire
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question, did they get rid of the elder hair protection feature ?

eager harness
oak remnant
random edge
eager harness
strange glen
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hushed arch
steady pond
woeful obsidian
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Wha I saw in Screenshot channel just 2 ac? For this trouble? Not worth it. I couldn't do it either because no one there no server merge.

modern heart
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Honestly, when this gets in live, I’ll find it a lot more convenient. If youre low on ac for a ts, instead of having to spend all your wl for lots of ac and go through the trouble of getting it all back, its nicer when there are convenient shards that instantly give you ac without rebirth! Not to mention i dont want to touch the crawling mechanic in live.. ever pFIRE
rhats just my opinion though :D

steady pond
hollow compass
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You'll be touching that anyway, since you will be attacked by very aggressive crabs for the AC quests.

modern heart
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crabs can’t get me if im in the air FeelsEvil

woeful obsidian
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I am alone why no one in my server?😭😭😭😭

modern heart
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Beta is generally an empty space, since instead of around millions of players like in live, there are just thousands. Its possible there’s just nobody around at the moment, or all the other servers are full. Its generally more empty in beta SkyHeadpat

hollow compass
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It's even more quiet now that season testing is basically over.

sonic magnet
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I've been away for a few weeks.... Did I miss anything?

hollow compass
sonic magnet
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There haven't been any.

steady pecan
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Us: Breathes
Shards: “Peace was never an option”

woeful obsidian
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I give up. Alone not good.

hollow compass
cursive tinsel
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Is it wrong to say it's interesting to see new locations for shards and reduces the chance of disturbing the peace at some locations too frequently?

glass spoke
graceful crow
gilded parrotBOT
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I ate it stickerYum

cursive tinsel
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Sanctuary main island to the left of the big waterfall

cursive tinsel
glass spoke
cursive tinsel
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It's just sky trying to be spontaneous.... which is definitely a change from what they have done before

broken fractal
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Usually, we got 2 different places when its AC shard time. Now its reduced to 1. Is this intended, like its a sign that the season is almost over?

elder inlet
hollow compass
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it's funny how TGC seems to think that the shards falling more "off the beaten path" will be less disruptive, when it is exactly those places people covet for the peace and quiet

steady pond
hollow compass
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I personally feel like this season has destroyed the core of the game, even though in theory I like the idea of it: especially being able to get AC from another source that doesn't require so much time. But having these shards and crabs in places like Prairie caves, around grandma, the Starlight desert just feels wrong.

glass spoke
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i used to sleep in starlight desert back then when it was released
imagine what would happen if i still did

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also i've been thinking... did grandma do something that angered the eden king so now he's destroying her dinners?

twin isle
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The shards falling in social spaces does suck though because it ruins the vibe imo. Like it completely made treehouse feel not cozy and fun to be in. And I imagine when it comes to live there might be a full server in a social space and when a shard falls you'll probably have people angry beeping trying to get other people to participate when those people just want to socialize or relax

glass spoke
steady pond
sullen relic
rustic leaf
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I'm guessing with the update for live released there's little chance of any changes to be made to the shardfall element now ^^;;

steady pond
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i guess all in all it just sucks that its a timed event that happens and you sorta have to plan around it if you wanna chill without shards bombarding the peace

glass spoke
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my internet is failing me yikes 💀 agreed with zem
there will be tons of wings falling from afk sleeping players everywhere

twin isle
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Yeah I hope they knock back the times they fall once the season concludes or do something so it doesn't seem as in the way or vibe destroying. I love the extra AC, my resize count goes up every week so I'd definitely love to have the ability to collect more ac for it, but the way it disrupts vibes sucks.

Also @steady pond true but I'd rather them not be in places that are geared towards relaxing and being social like treehouse. I like to sit there and play guitar and vibe and shards being there kills it. sqwarlockDed Areas that actively have chat benches and stuff like that shouldn't have shards falling anywhere near those spots imo.

hollow compass
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But remember, TGC won't tell us the timing, just like always. So we have to do all the work for them, trying to find a pattern.

glass spoke
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respects to anyone who is willing to make a chart or something (this is a desperate beg for help)

steady pond
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io and clement probably will SkyLOL saviours of the seasonal chat

hollow compass
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Now that Clement is a mod, maybe they can get the info directly from TGC? I don't know. A lot of the other things, like grandma and geyser and their wax collection caps, were compiled by many players testing the features.

glass spoke
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io and clement will be saving the lives of the entire sky community when shattering comes to live 😭

steady pond
glass spoke
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cosmos be typing his heart out and honestly i couldn't agree more

dreamy grail
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Just some thoughts from me doing eden in live rather than in beta due to my wing caps between both versions (170 as of pre eden in live, 112 in beta), new eden is really easy for me, there is one totem that's annoying in the open as you get pushed away when recharging, and I suggest for taller skids you sit when being healed from light. It's possible to get all 63 totems with 160+ PNR entry wings as long as you play safe and manage to get around... Up until the last totem in PNR, if you have over 70 to 80 wings, you should be able to get to the hill at the end of PNR, the rest is down to RNG.

I went in with 164 WL and had a few frame drops which screwed me over as I'd lost 30 wings which upset me a little, BUTTTT, when me and my partner go on Thursday, I should be able to get all of the wings if I get my total 172 WL before entry (if trials aren't entirely broken in live - mainly on ab Fire trial here), BUTTTT with the new red splashes showing large shards are aboutta land, at first it's a little unclear at first but they do end up making a bunch of sense when you recharge for long enough and watch closely.

  • again I never tested eden 2.0 in beta mainly due to my low wing cap and me not wanting to be all worked up ab a low AC count, but this is what I have to say ab visiting the newer changes
dreamy grail
glass spoke
dreamy grail
glass spoke
hollow compass
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I did Eden in beta and I didn't find it more challenging as such, but I also didn't see the point of the crawling mechanism. It doesn't add anything of value to the area. From the questions Sagomay has posed, I am assuming that they are looking to make Eden more emotionally engaging. The remake of the statues are now similar to Pompeii, which I suppose can make some players feel more sad? But overall, the main issue is still that players do Eden to get a valuable currency. As long as the currency is there, it will always become a chore in the end.

dreamy grail
glass spoke
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in live my maximum wing count is around 190 and in beta it's like... 100 something? i usually only collect up to 50 but i'll try and get as many as i can then finally push myself to do it, it deserves a chance atleast

hollow compass
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Didn't someone say that the sweet spot is 140, because after that you will lose more wings to the red rain?

dreamy grail
maiden pond
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Can you guys confirm something before I go to Eden and test this new update in live? I seen before going into the endless rain you take less damage and the time it takes to get damaged is not as rapid. That is new, right?

dreamy grail
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Trust me, if you wanna get an idea for live, I'd try in beta straight off the bat so you understand the whole waves of shard patterns for stage 2

@maiden pond yes that's very much true! However as someone who did eden very recently, take at least 2 instant recharges, YOU'LL NEED THEM

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My advice is go straight for the totems, them backtrack for statues so that you have a way to heal if you get hit when tryna give life, I tried this and it made PNR WAYYYY easier so trust me for that it's worth it FeelsEvil

maiden pond
dreamy grail
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Don't use your candles, use your AC if you have any, that's what I'm doing as I'm in a deficit for both pride and TS, I'm at 200c in live rn, but I'm also CR daily so i have enough for both events-
As of rn most of the candles are going for TS until I know otherwise

maiden pond
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I meant I had 9 instant recharge potions, not candles lol.

astral trellis
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tbh the shard falling completely ruins sky's entire point of 'socializing and relaxing'

analog elm
dreamy grail
analog elm
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Ah, I understand now, thank you for the kind reply! This is very useful information going forward, thanks once again.

dreamy grail
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DW ab it, the whole part of eden is really interesting now, it's easier and it's noticeable of how large rocks fall by monitoring the red spotlights across the floor too. A lot of the time in PNR is recharging and running between totems, the rest of it is running and lighting and the final stretch of like 2 to 5 minutes is crawling which is cool

gilded parrotBOT
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ktjn's clones are watching

quiet obsidian
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im so done with this godforsaken update. im sick of it. crawling NEEDS TO GO i just tried eden in live with 186 wl and DIDNT EVEN MAKE IT TO THE LAST STATUE i cant imagine how things will be when the shards start to fall, im honestly getting sick and tired of playing at this point. i remember when i said eden was fun in this update. i changed my mind.

dreamy grail
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I found there's a clip hole in the enterance to the travel to orbit which is just a barrier gate, and the whole king/elder jelly oob bug is patched now -sobs-

cerulean breach
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Oh i have a question, what is y'all opinion on the krill cape?
Do u prefer red on the inside or nothing on the inside?

kindred fossil
woeful obsidian
kindred fossil
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I meeeean…

woeful obsidian
kindred fossil
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In the edit? Looks elegant, just right. What we actually were supposed to get? Looked like Performance guide’s debut in Mad Max

woeful obsidian
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Yes

cerulean breach
iron elbow
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at least performance has some color to it, krill cape just looks bland SkyFaint

kindred fossil
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What I’m saying is, if there to be any underside, it shouldn’t be as intense

shadow stratus
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I still dont know why did thet put the fluffy neck 😭

kindred fossil
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It should’ve been an accessory but I like it either way stickerShiny Krills are just fuzzy worms on a string

shadow stratus
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Oh well, im looking foward just for the manta ult anyway SkyProud

naive trail
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Hi beta ppl! i have a quick question, these shard events from the season of shattering happen daily, right? Is there 1 or 2 shard events daily?

shadow stratus
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2 shards daily in two locations at the drop times

naive trail
kindred fossil
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Depends on the shard type

naive trail
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so its not a guaranteed thing that we get a set amount of AC a day? if i were to go to all shard events

kindred fossil
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Also, live patch notes have explained the difference between wax/AC shards but no exact schedule, the beta schedule is not what it’s going to be like in live

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I feel the “how much/location/schedule” questions will be impossible to answer accurately with the unpredictable nature of the shards, we’re not given much explanation SkyWhew

naive trail
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Did my message get deleted or did it not send what happened-

naive trail
shadow stratus
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It is if you have time to grind everyday

naive trail
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luckily I do or should atleast

shadow stratus
naive trail
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season hasnt even started and tbf im already waiting for it to be over..

shadow stratus
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I want to see what will the second part change, its certanly not gonna be the worst sky experience we ever had

naive trail
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second part?

shadow stratus
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Yes there is more stuff related to the season to come according to the devs, but it wont make it to live before the season starts probably because we have to test it first

naive trail
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so its like coming in 2 parts? has that ever happened before?

shadow stratus
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Not part, there will just be more to it, we dont know it since the devs are radio silemt about it, we just know there is more coming

naive trail
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and with like "more"are we talking like cosmetics, seasonal quests, seasonal areas ? or just more in general

kindred fossil
naive trail
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Interesting! ill be looking forward to that tho

shadow stratus
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The thing we can know is that there will be no more cosmetics added to the season tree, i dont think they can change that later on, unless they changed the prices to live to prepare to more stuff coming

kindred fossil
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Cause testing ended eons ago

heavy stirrup
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Hello, may I ask where can I post a concept art? Some cosmetics are a part of the beta that hasn't been released in the live servers yet

heavy stirrup
late mountain
shadow stratus
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I hate that the baby manta cape doesnt have a glowy tail, but thats actually loyal to the baby manta model, the tail is barely noticeable

vagrant fable
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Since we don't have a beta memes channel and such, any images related to beta, like memes and fan art, goes there
Which can lead to some pretty funny threads SkyLOL

lilac epoch
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It says something that I am now inordinately happy whenever the instant recharge potion is for sale for ACs at the sleepy merchant's boat. I'm like hiya precious bottle, come to Kimiiii <buys spell> stickerShiny

heavy stirrup
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No updates yet huh 🥲

desert token
heavy stirrup
glass spoke
obsidian shoal
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didn't the jester pants get added to Performance after player feedback? seeing as those are some real good pants, maybe there is still a tiny hint of hope for krill pants too.... one can hope

stoic adder
plain saddle
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Hello I have a question I don’t really know if any of you can help but is there a way for me to go from beta on my android to my ios phone because I have sky beta on my android and I wanted to know if it was possible for me to have it on my ios instead, sorry if it’s hard to understand I’m bad at explaining SkyCry SkyDeepBow

misty bone
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for beta andriod to ios, you also need to wait for ios invite if i am not wrong... login should be the same so u can carry over but you need an invite

plain saddle
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Oh alright thanks you! SkyBow

spark lance
heavy stirrup
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Guys, I posted a concept art that I commissioned. It's located at #beta-screenshots-videos. Perhaps we could talk about it here? What do you gus think? ❤️ Krill armor 😌

nova vine
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Can someone tell me how to get beta?

split spire
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just saying this here since it's kinda spoilers for the upcoming season but

i think this is the first time i haven't been excited for a season to start 💀

trim spade
heavy stirrup
nova vine
trim spade
shadow stratus
trim spade
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I don’t think they added jester pants in response to player feedback, there’s no time to add a whole pant to a season after it starts in beta. They were just still working on it. Not all cosmetics are released at once in beta seasons

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The krill hair got added later as well, so I don’t think there will be any more additions to the cosmetics

shadow stratus
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Anyway i did eden, concluded that with 150/160 wings is possible to get 60 statues, the last 3 just arent worth it.
My main issue with eden and its a problem in general, is that the new cover areas that were added, these needed to be revised as rocks easily go trough it, and the rocks shouldnt knock us to the right, it doesnt make sense

heavy stirrup
# split spire just saying this here since it's kinda spoilers for the upcoming season but i ...

Not the slightest disappointment? It kinda feels lacking TBH. Me too I'm really excited, quite disappointed at the same time. Sure major things are dope, but about the small things?. Krill horn for example, what does it even do? Single note for an exclusive item? Hell nah. We get a complete set for the light side, but no krill pants? Could've been one of the highlight cosmetic of the season....

trim spade
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We need completely black pants

kind prawn
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Wow.. crazy crabs today around Shards.. and this season is going live soon?? That’s bananas!!

shadow stratus
trim spade
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You can easily lure the crabs away before starting to burn the plants

kind prawn
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Sure, that’s what i usually do, just that today the number of crabs was a little nuts

trim spade
shadow stratus
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I mean to unlock with missions, i dont think we gonna have leftover seasonal hearts on live

trim spade
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It’s a bummer that crabs are not synched between skykids stickerGloomy

trim spade
shadow stratus
split spire
glacial barn
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Anyone else give up on trying to lure crabs away due to them being too numerous and being instilled with a boomerang type tendency to return from across the map?

split spire
cursive tinsel
glacial barn
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I usually can't get them to follow me away from the shards/darkness, and if I succeed too much time is wasted and they return anyways it feels like

iron elbow
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who else is planning to setup "pied piper" shared memories just before shattering starts to hopefully help live players out with crabs SkyProud

wind sable
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It been a while that no beta update come..I really hope we will get something tmr hahaSkyCozy

glass spoke
dreamy grail
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DoS testing hopefully in the next two weeks

wind sable
glass spoke
glass spoke
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with six eyes, four ears and eight tails it could be a biblically accurate mochi bunny

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actually i'd kinda like to have swimsuits or some kinda bathrobe cape whatsoever

dreamy grail
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That won't happen, the game is about children, if they added swimsuits, more people would sexualise sky kids... There's already plenty of people doing posts that get taken down almost daily....

dreamy grail
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I think we should move AWAY from this topic.

sick spear
# glass spoke what do skykids bathe in tho

Well sky kids are essentially children of light so I don't think they get wet (or at least have any issue with getting wet) cuz they made of light shout_b SkyPride shout_a

Just a theory tho, not really a lore specialist pPopcorn pHelloKrill

long coyote
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Oooh

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Add in a pool float or something you can sit in! Maybe it'll act like the days of love boat?

maiden pond
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I think second wave of testing for Shattering may begin when there's 3-5 days left of it to come to Live, or when it releases in Live, I'm just speculating at this point.

lyric kite
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There might be an update sometime this week, although probably not until Tuesday at the earliest since tomorrow is a holiday in the US

carmine thorn
# dreamy grail Just some thoughts from me doing eden in live rather than in beta due to my wing...

(ping off) While I do appreciate the testing, we also have to keep in mind Sky has been accessible for all skill levels. I understand it may be 'easy' for you or I, but we also have to account for players who can't get timings correctly, or people who don't regularly play games.

The new mechanics and changes to Eden increase the skill floor and brutally punish mistakes. If you get hit nowhere near a recharge spot, you can lose up to 30 WL for one mistake. I don't see my friend's son being able to complete Eden without throwing his controller in frustration and agony since his skill level wouldn't get the timing down for quite a few runs.

The other issue with the new changes is it needlessly adds extra time to the run. If people were already complaining about how long it takes to do Eden from 5 lantern door to rebirth door, imagine adding an extra 5-20 minutes due to these changes.

Edit: It's also good to go in testing as a new player by entering PNR with no more than realm WL total (105 currently, 108 if you count new season WL)

unreal marsh
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which memory is the one with the whale?

pale junco
unreal marsh
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Wait I thought that was the krill one, I guess I misremembered