beta-discussion

[analog finch]

Just wanted to say that I absolutely love the red wing shatter thing that happens when someone loses their wings, this way it's more noticable and I am able to help people a lot easier

[dreamy grail]

Agreed, because it helps us differentiate if someone dodged or was krilled in GW, also helps us know if someone was hoarded by crabs too

[astral trellis]

"hey this season really needs work and shouldn't have come out so fas-"
"no :)"

[analog finch]

Oh god what's wrong with it ?

[dreamy grail]

Only negative is when people see this and choose to ignore it and arrive as all the wings shatter.

Honestly, hands down, TGC THANK YOU FOR EXTENDING WING COLLECTION TIME (after someone's damaged I mean)

[astral trellis]

SEIZURES 😭 😭 😭

[analog finch]

WHAT

[spark lance]

It's a good idea to have that so we know when our friends need help getting their wl back, but if it's flashy enough that it can trigger seizures that's really concerning D:

[analog finch]

Oh no they should fix that then

[spark lance]

unless you're playing solo and get into crawling state, i just tested it in gw and even with the extended time i couldn't get them all back

Tgc needs to be more mindful of their photosensitive players

[ocean cedar]

If you are gonna keep the crawling mechanic, at least let us have an option to skip orbit.
Eden already feels like a pain and a chore even without that crawling mechanic.

[hasty vessel]

Right! if this season was anything like TLP I’d be over the moon, but being consistently tasked with burning dark plant and avoiding crabs at the shard crash sites for 70+ days just to uncover screenshot memories is a farce imo

[dreamy grail]

I had hopes it would have followed like LP with interesting quests.... Hopefully they're saving that for Eden's main season next year (hopefully?)

Either way, me and my partner are looking forward for Shattering in live :D

[spark lance]

I'm looking forward to the cosmetics and that's it, really I don't see myself enjoying this season much

[tropic radish]

A simple wish,
I wish ( all photosensitive sky players ) a safe ( season of shattering )

[spark lance]

I wish everyone a safe season of shattering, don't forget to take breaks and let your eyes rest from this eyestrain of a game . Especially our photosensitive friends

[tranquil folio]

Is it just me or did this new patch got pushed out so fast without any major changes?

[hasty vessel]

“Eden’s main season next year”??? Do you know something that I don’t know?
Well I’m glad you’re looking forward to this season! I guess this one could be likened to marmite.

My main gripe with this season is that it could have been an event ‘7 days of shattering” and still would have left the same impression, instead of dragging it out in an entire season

[dreamy grail]

We don't know anything, all I'm saying is from what I'm taking a guess at, seems most of us have agreed it seems a bit bland, it's like this is a taster for stuff to come. The large post quest stuff seems like TGC showing off what can be done for open spaces. Potentially teasing with the final quest as a "hey eden lore soon :D" type thing

[pseudo prairie]

ok so I've been trying for weeks to get the hidden forest shards to no avail. like, is anything supposed to happen after they burn? is forest just permanently bugged? I'm quite fed up of coming back almost every week to see if I will get anything out of it (a memory, ascended candles...) and all I get is a bit of regular candle wax and that's it. I try not to look in here when I'm beta testing because I want to find stuff for myself so the feedback is more accurate, so idk if this has been a recurring issue. I didn't see anything about it in known issues though. and if nothing is supposed to happen in forest... what is the point of the shards there then? can't say I'm enjoying this monotonous season much, even though the cosmetics look nice

[kindred fossil]

Grey shards give wax, only the red pulsing shards will give AC/memories, it seems it’s not communicated clearly

[tough leaf]

Question but how many winglight are there all in all for the season?

[tropic radish]

That's...not gonna boat well during the first few days 😟
Unless TGC elaborates it...somehow

[lilac flicker]

How many wing light in season of shattering?

[dreamy grail]

Someone just asked that ._.

[spark lance]

Hopefully tgc specifies that red shards are the one that give ac bc I'm sure many players will be very confused otherwise

[kindred fossil]

It was briefly explained in the patch notes that the first week of Shattering will be intense & explained the difference between the two type of events, but it should be further communicated through blogposts or in-game guides

[pseudo prairie]

I see, thank you! what about the meditation spot that appears in prairie after burning the plants though? the one that activates the thingy so you can finish the quest, I mean. nothing happens in forest for me, I can't "collect" anything. I was trying to fulfill the quests in order of the realms (1st in prairie, 2nd in forest, 3rd in valley...), so I'm stuck without being able to fulfill the 2nd one. is really nothing supposed to happen in forest? should I just wait for tomorrow and try to get that quest from valley?

[tropic radish]

Closest thing i can think of
With the state of this season
Is through the inbox

[kindred fossil]

The event at Prairie was an active red shard, you can’t finish quests through an inactive (grey) shard, so indeed you’ll have to wait until tomorrow & hope it will be an active one

[hasty vessel]

🗑

[glass spoke]

agreed

[pseudo prairie]

oh ok thank you!! wow... if this was already on live and I didn't have discord to ask all this, I may have quit out of frustration ngl. they should definitely make all of this clear somehow, whether through inbox or dev letters or something else. I still don't see the point of having a shard event that doesn't let you finish a quest. just seems pointlessly frustrating to me

[kindred fossil]

We don’t even know what’s the live schedule is going to be like, only that it’s going to be an intense opening week, it won’t be as frequent as it appears in beta

[glass spoke]

we've been trying to give feedback about this, hopefully they will give us some clue on where the active shard events occur

[steady pond]

i understand why it has to be an organic timed event but its so massively inconvenient lol. RIP and godspeed when this starts in live

[white latch]

Me still waiting for the shield bug thingy to happen again

[zinc mauve]

Is the new elder hair shield also included in the update?

[viscid sundial]

It was a bug and already patched, so no

[zinc mauve]

Bug? Wonder what they'll do with it
saved myself from trying it

[strong sentinel]

It's quite old bug that occurred in the first build for 0.18.0 (quickly patched in second tho)
It's funny people come in now thinking it's an intended feature, where are you getting this info?

[zinc mauve]

Old beta videos
Wouldve been cool if they actually added it

[strong sentinel]

During active beta testing we get so many build updates so a lot of things change. Better not to rely on old videos by content creators and look into #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues

[zinc mauve]

Oh i already watched it way before
I only knew it was a bug til now

[strong sentinel]

I see. Well, always better to be safe than sorry

[zinc mauve]

Atleast we got the props to protect us

[dreamy grail]

They did kinda in the post

[strong sentinel]

Not always tho. In eden they'll get destroyed by a strong hit of rock
During shard events some things can destroy them too I think (unless they patched that for live)

[glass spoke]

can't let us have anything fun

[astral trellis]

tgc needs to be mindful of all of their players tbh they definitely don't playtest

[strong sentinel]

One thing I can advise for photosensitive people is when the sky turns red - to put their devices aside, let event happen, and then proceed to play if the shard is in bearable place (visually)
Because for dailies you don't have to clear the darkness, you just need to get closer and get out of there...

[maiden pond]

(Ping off) before I go to my man cave that is Eden and slumber for another day of rescuing moths, I'll leave this here for you guys in case you didn't see it. There may yet be some hope, so stay determined!

[glass spoke]

if they really did split the season into two and they purposefully made this half a lackluster so they can give us something absolutely amazing in the future, i might aswell apologize, who knows

[viscid sundial]

(ping off) And some clarification on what the other half really means. I personally don't think it'll be that big of a second half but still

[valid terrace]

I have said this already but like

my least favourite thing is not being able to go somewhere anymore without worrying about Eden exploding. I don’t wanna have to schedule and plan all the time, that just creates stress and limits where I wanna go

[steady pond]

it cant get any worse than this so whatever additions we have are probably positives ||(a finger on the monkeys pawl curls)||

[valid terrace]

rock bottom can only go up!

I don’t like that it seems to be rock bottom but that means the lowest it can go so

[rocky peak]

When it comes to live, can’t wait to be overwhelmed by the noise of Eden

[valid terrace]

like. I don’t wanna have to do this I worry it’ll make me unable to enjoy it

[glass spoke]

don't underestimate tgc, we thought the same with assembly

[rugged goblet]

Is anyone have a picture of office guitar?

[glass spoke]

feel free to look through #beta-screenshots-videos

[glass spoke]

#beta-screenshots-videos message found it

[hollow compass]

Remind me again what we thought of Assembly and what was changed so drastically.

[rugged goblet]

@glass spoke thank you so much

[glass spoke]

back then many people thought there won't be a more disappointing season than assembly, yet we got shattering
the "get this, get that" was present there aswell, but at least we got rewarded after collecting fragments, we got to renovate the treehouse
i can't recall any drastic changes except the remodeling of the ultimate cape (rip cheese cape) and adding the horn to the ultimate tree though
@rugged goblet you're welcome! the guitar sounds like the the performance electric guitar

[hollow compass]

I probably just don’t understand the association you made to shattering. Sorry.

[spark lance]

in live the tarp prop didn't work for me..

[zinc mauve]

Dont tell me it was a bug too like the elder shield

[hollow compass]

I don’t think props were designed to protect you, but they might do it occasionally anyway.

[spark lance]

true, but now im truly dreading wasteland

[digital pasture]

I really do hope the absence of like, player feedback being heard has to do with this. I mean, it would make sense to not feel too worried as a dev when you're already working on it.
But on the other hand.... even IF they are working on player feedback and need to be secretive about it, a short little "we heard your feedback" would be nice.... and like, probably would've avoided people talking about the live update negatively on other websites

[fervent ridge]

This current "bug" of using props for protect it's still working, at least the patch it reached live, I even tried with the rose prop and that small thing protected me from krill attack

[woeful obsidian]

🤫 Don't say loud. Tgc might hear this. Let us have this little positive bug.

[astral trellis]

tgc hates when players actually enjoy playing their video game

[spark lance]

The prop does protect us once when shard crab attack.
The cooldown similarly affected when being attacked by a krill. Maybe it is not a bug.
Hopefully it is not a bug. -___-
But as always they'll just say it was never intended if they remove it in the future.
Now the spell shop sales for krill repellent drops

[dreamy grail]

I think the props thing is supposed to be a feature, Devs look over beta chat and many people have done this through the season, not one change. It's a feature for sure

[woeful obsidian]

Yes. It should help us little bit.. Some new mechanic

Thatswhy i am so for a backpack with carry more items around instead of just one.. 😉

[fervent ridge]

Would be cool after how long it takes to put a prop again, specially the light resources ones.

So long, when t's ready probably my light might be extinguished and I gonna be crawling for my life.... Literally

[summer iris]

the amount of bugs reported and ignored in this game only discourages. I'm about to leave Sky out of frustration. Certainly the biggest reason why many people stop playing is not lack of friends or some difficulty, the biggest culprit is TGC itself and this attitude of ignoring what is said by gamers and their neglect, especially to the Android gamer community.

[glass spoke]

android bug package for free available in the shop NOW!!!

[strong sentinel]

At least you'll have 10-15 minutes to get out of there

[glass spoke]

no more napping at grandmas for me then!

[pulsar blade]

Only one forest shards location today or?

[mighty harness]

2 locations- one is at beginning of forest and the other is near the spirit you need for daily quest

[rustic glen]

I think the day has come to take a rest from Sky. I’ve played since gratitude like plenty of others and was hoping to see it continue to grow and flourish with it’s community in mind. The past seasons, inclusive of this season, feel so detached from what made me adore the game. The game which was once altruistic feels more and more vague and lost from the original concept that had it’s player base in mind.

[night sapphire]

question, is the cutscene for the shattering season purposefully in still frame so that we dont get any spoilers for it until the live season comes out or is the actual seasonal cutscene just a stay still frame?

[steady pond]

no clue

[night sapphire]

would suck if its not animated cutscene on live

[pulsar blade]

Thanks.

[steady pond]

its probably still gonna be stillframes in live unless the beta update later on changes something

[half nest]

how would animated cutscene work with the wl locations then?

[night sapphire]

theres wl on the quest area???

[languid bear]

Q: are we meant to see a cutscene after the quest (via guide)

Sagomay: No. There are no plans I'm aware of for cutscenes
#beta-discussion message

So maybe stillframes..

[steady pond]

im just throwing thoughts but it could just be a cutscene of X thing moving around before assuming their final position in the memory space w the WL sitting wherever they are. i dont see why animated cutscenes would interrupt where the WL is

[trim glen]

I’ve been reading through a lot of the comments here that have been posted since yesterday afternoon, and I’m not holding my breath for any major changes.

From my experience at this point in the seasonal/testing process not a lot really changes. Yeah for abyss etc a couple things were tweaked and added to the last couple quests but the overall mechanics, feel, and content are there and set. I don’t think any major or dramatic changes are coming.

I would also imagine that in terms of work load/flow for devs, that it doesn’t make sense that they would be implementing some huge second half for shattering. I just don’t see how that’s feasible with all that I’m sure is going on at TGC. They already have pushed everything out to live now. I think probably 90% of what is there is what we got to look forward to. I could be wrong but this is from my experience playing this game now for two years how it has been and things have operated.

I personally think I’ve mostly made my peace with the changes and ‘the shattering’. Do I like them? No. Not really. Do I love the upcoming season? Also no, it will probably be my least favorite but I’ll hold off on my personal ranking until it’s out and I’ve lived with it in live a while. But I have hope that like the prop system from assembly which pretty much nobody asked for or wanted and TGC insisted on and pushed on everyone despite ppls dislike or at best apathy for it - that these shattering changes will be also largely abandoned and toned down.

I guess like life nothing lasts forever, I just really hope that these changes don’t lead to a big drop off of daily active players and a decline in the game overall. I love sky and it means so much to me, and I know the same is true for so many here. I loved it the way it was because it was my haven and safe and beautiful place to go. There are many dark and violent games - I just hope that TGC doesn’t lose sight of what made their game so different and special in the first place.

[strong sentinel]

Imagine cutscene happening after you take wl
That could be epic

[spark lance]

or the cutscene plays first and then you get to see the models after with the WL inside? 🤔🤔

[night sapphire]

i mean i guess from what i see lore wise and gameplaywise its a major change but its not really the change alot of people wanted, im still suprised that the spirits got no models nor there are any animated cutscenes, i just assumed its a beta thing but man,,,

[spark lance]

i still don't get the "lore" people are talking about

[vestal chasm]

i have a question, will everything i do in beta stay forever? like collecting spirits, buy cosmetics etc.?

[spark lance]

Nothing stays permanent in beta, i heard they've done progress wipe in the past. Recently there were reset on candles & hearts

[ivory minnow]

anything done in beta that involve candle running, etc will not tranfer to live

[vestal chasm]

ohh alright, so if the season is over and theres a new season, everything is gone and im a beta moth again?

[spark lance]

Not always, so far I haven't experienced a progress wipe like this (i joined since beta prophecy testing)

[vestal chasm]

ahhh okay good to know

[half nest]

they wouldn't reset absolutely everything just after a season being tested ends, that would discourage people from testing because of the amount of effort needed to get back to where they were before

[past perch]

I don't even get what's happening in this season💀💀

[vestal chasm]

alright thank you guys❤️

[ember fern]

I…I was going to buy 2 AP… but now I guess 1 is enough… since it doesn’t hurt

[trim spade]

Same

[mortal basin]

Does days of sky come in beta already?

[half nest]

yes, it was already tested.

[chrome ivy]

My Disappointment is In measurable and my day is ruined

Where's the TGC storytelling??? Without cutscene, There's no season. It just like an event. A long time one

[gilded parrot]

I ate it

[shadow stratus]

Bro we gonna need 63 hearts to buy all the anniversary stuff what 💀

[ember fern]

Waitwat

[dire escarp]

Storytelling shouldn't be restricted to cutscenes, Infact I would rather storytelling not be in cutscenes, but in the events that happen in the world, environments, and characters.

[glass spoke]

in the current season there's no lore whatsoever, just misery

[dire escarp]

Not quite, it certainly shows us that dark and light have ancient memories and are connected via the Eden diamond, lorechat have been theorising about this, but this almost makes it concrete.
Also that the elders were involved and shards are both containing spirits of light and dark creatures (after completion of the big shards) is interesting, as we previously thought it was only energy from light creatures which are added to darkstone to form artificial stars.

[gilded parrot]

Hey @dire escarp, did you get enough sneep snorp today?

[dreamy grail]

Exactly, storytelling is also told through the murals and the runes around the maps as well (eg. Prophecy cave)

[livid mural]

Cries in fresh player

[dreamy grail]

Pfft skybots actually making someone go to sleep,that's actually kinda funny

[dire escarp]

If only I could go to sleep, but it's 1pm and I have to go back to work in a few minutes

[shadow stratus]

"No no TGC is lazy for not making cutscenes 😡😡"
But yeah i just wished we had at least one more memory after the last, but i really liked the last 3

[livid mural]

Sometimes I find myself suddenly dozing off for a few seconds only to suddenly wake up and feeling fresh and new, and sometimes even better than when I sleep at night

Idk what kind of sorcery takes place there

[shadow stratus]

I do like the memories, i think what people werent liking them was the fact that it isnt telling much, and idk much lore to confirm that
I do know that seeing a giant krill model standing still was visually pleasing

[dire escarp]

Microsleeps can work, I'd just better not doze off during a meeting.

Lorechat has already found the updated Eden mural and mural in Harmony Hall, and the theorising has begun

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[livid mural]

Not me staying out of the lore chat for a while

Kinda stifling, I usually just go there to pop a question and go back out

[spark lance]

imagine knowing sky lore 🙃 🤡

[dreamy grail]

I see you're in BST timezone as well

[vestal sparrow]

Hi I have doubt

Whom can I dm

[livid mural]

I accidentally read that as BTS timezone and went "They have a timezone now?"

[spark lance]

this tbh, not all lore or storytelling needs cutscenes, it needs some people's own interpretation or theorizing, I'm glad that they aren't just restricting theirselfs to just cutscenes, but ngl i hope they don't overdo this next season (which is the collab season infact)

[subtle condor]

What season is being tested right now in beta?

[chrome ivy]

I would like so. Like, certain things that happen during the quest

[chrome ivy]

Tbf, for those who underage 13< can't know about the lore because can't join discord

[oak remnant]

We are still testing Shattering

[rugged kayak]

well if it means anything, on live i was able to get to the last statue in eden :o (197 WL)

[grizzled arrow]

Sorry for interrupting! Seems I cannot find the broken shards. I thought they are in forest today 🤷🏻‍♀️ Can anyone give me a hint please?

[devout terrace]

I found the black one at forest landing area. Still looking for #2

[trim spade]

@grizzled arrow @devout terrace the two locations are the beginning of forest where the sapling is, and the Brook up on the right terrace

[grizzled arrow]

Is that the first area with the sapling?

[grizzled arrow]

Thank you!! I haven‘t seen anything at the sapling area.. will go there again now.

[drowsy sundial]

I'm no beta tester so I don't know if I'm allowed to talk here but I wanted to vent that the lack of spirits and emotes feels like cut content and lazyness instead of -new mechanics- for the season.

[dreamy grail]

After shattering done, we basically get a free pass for summer events then a relax for a month(?) Before the Crossover testing

[torn marsh]

Hello, I am new here, I have 2 question：how do I get the beta-testing server and when is the next time I will get the invitation？🥺

[trim spade]

Read #beta-faq and get the invites role

[torn marsh]

okay！

[dreamy grail]

Invites are random so don't be expecting any anytime soon, they're on a "as needed" basis

[trim spade]

This is the beta chat where you talk about beta stuff, whether you are in beta game or not. And yes that’s the general consensus here

[torn marsh]

okay！thank you so much！

[trim spade]

Invites fill up within 2-5 minutes after being posted, so it’s better to turn on phone notifications

[torn marsh]

👌！！

[dreamy grail]

Invites usually stay open for like 30ish mins... Or at least the last one did, then they're closed for months

[trim spade]

Maybe for Android I don’t remember that ever happening

[torn marsh]

Where was the invitation sent?

[drowsy sundial]

Ah glad to know I'm not the only one who feels like it's a downgrade.

[dreamy grail]

The post was at 22:24pm (BST) and closed at 23:00pm (BST)

Everyone when they first saw eden crabs: [insert Ranboo "what in the Jesus was that" audio]

[trim spade]

Does the announcement that the invites are full come immediately after they’re full?

[torn marsh]

Is the invitation posted here, or somewhere else（sorry for the interrupt

[trim spade]

In the invites channel, which will open for you after you get the invites role

[queen wedge]

After getting the role, you shall get pinged for invites in #beta-signup-info

[boreal shell]

Hello! 👽⭐, I have a question. Cleaning the darkness will always give ascended candles regardless of the day or if it's a daily mission? Which feature will be permanent exactly in Sky?

[torn marsh]

ok, i'll take a look！

[trim spade]

It kinda is? Treat it like a holiday lol I call it a filler season in between more important seasons

[trim spade]

No black shards give regular wax, red shards give you ac

Has anyone counted how much wax the black shards give you? I got a full candle on 3 chevrons from a single shard today

[torn marsh]

how to get the role beta-invite？

I can't find beta invite and I don't know how to unlock 💦💦

[spark lance]

I don't know how everyone else feels about the ac wax currency but as a player with 3/6 realms finished in need of pretty much hearts and 40+ ac candles sitting inventory, I don't see a reason to actively participate in the new seasonal events besides geyser and grandma, idk if anyone else feels like this

[pale junco]

its in #beta-faq , scroll up

[torn marsh]

ok！

[boreal shell]

And so the red shards giving ascended candles is a permanent feature from now on in Sky?

[raw wasp]

I can’t really say the same, I don’t go to Eden all that frequently so having a steady (ish)source of ascended candles for TS is a lifesaver.

@kindred fossil hahahaha i’m still perpetually stuck below 20 hearts after 5 seasons of playing literally every day and doing candle run daily

[placid iron]

At least we don't have to do the long Eden cycle over and over and over and over and ove-

[raw wasp]

Also i only have completed and somehow some folks have ALL the constellations completed in less than a year while still managing TS????

[placid iron]

I've lost all motivation to get hearts ever since I got maskless and bald

[raw wasp]

Like how the

[kindred fossil]

It was manageable before IGC event items kicked in, I had just finished all constellations before DoFeast 2020 introduced the first ever IGC items

[placid iron]

don't ask why I spent time getting hearts for bald it's funny

[trim spade]

The candle bug helped me finish my constellation, before that I skipped a year of ts in beta lol

[trim spade]

Keep adding people to light daily!

[cosmic axle]

How many candles do we need for the pygmy manta cape? I was away for a bit and unable to play beta, so I'm a bit behind lol

[dreamy grail]

They'll be delayed so ±5 minutes

[wanton crater]

Hello i just want to ask a question when and how can I join beta?

[gilded parrot]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[chrome ivy]

If you saying for beta, I never think about build the constellation tree. If live, I only can build 3 of the 6 constellation. Because out of hearts

[raw wasp]

Live!

[dreamy grail]

Wait for invites to open - head to #beta-faq for roles and stuff for pings

[wanton crater]

When do they open though

[spark lance]

Raimundéz

[dreamy grail]

We do not know. It's random on an as needed basis

[weak pebble]

Why the anniversary performance at the office stage isn’t happening in the new actual performance area?

They designed a whole stage and area where nothing happens just to designs a whole new stage in the office.

[kindred fossil]

It’s my man Raimundéz, a round of applause for my man Raimundéz 👏

[molten panther]

Because it's supposed to be an office party?

[dreamy grail]

Most likely testing won't open either untill DoS/SL testing or until a little into our upcoming mystery season :D

[grizzled arrow]

I‘ve been to the two shards but nothing happened after destroying them.. This should be solving the 5th mission right?

[shadow stratus]

A stage area were nothing happens? At the Performance area?
You didnt spend time there enough then

[elder prawn]

There is? I saw a video and it only showed two hair styles and 3 capes, and one outfit for the new season coming D:

[dreamy grail]

Crimson shards with crabs around them mean they'll offer quests
Dark extingushed non challenging ones only offer candle wax

[grizzled arrow]

Oh ok so where can I find that crimson shard to solce my mission?

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

[raw wasp]

I wish it was easier to like… not have merges in performance area. It’s hard to make anything ykyk

[dreamy grail]

Wait till tomorrow likely

[molten panther]

2 ultimate capes, two hairstyles, two hair accessories, an instrument, a dress, a mask, 2 light capes, 1 dark cape... I don't remember if I'm missing something 🤔

[elder prawn]

Is there a video of it? the ones I saw only showed like 5 cosmetics

[molten panther]

I don't know. I don't watch videos 😅

[dreamy grail]

Best checking Nastymold 's videos and content creators like her

• don't trust "Baby sky children" they're hackers

• alternatively, search 'beta archives' in #beta-screenshots-videos channel :D

[molten panther]

Unfortunately, most YouTubers post videos right when the season drops and eventually a lot changes by the time it makes it to live. So the videos aren't very reliable.

[shadow stratus]

Wich is why i bet that so many people think eden rn is like the first versions of shattering test , but in reality is better than old eden, at least in my opinion

[molten panther]

Yeah, I haven't been to eden since it's first changed. I'm curious to see it now 😁

[chrome ivy]

Baby sky children Clickbaits 💀

[dreamy grail]

No, they're actual hackers, they bought everything out on day one, with over 8k SCs

[shadow stratus]

What are you guys thoughts on the grass fade texture? (Like when it gets in contact with rock or sand)? I like it but sanctuary in specific looking kinda ugly because of it, not sure if its my phone issue

[chrome ivy]

And I just saw that one of the video and behind has someone buyying the AP again and again

[shadow stratus]

They hack, they do clickbait, they do drama for no reason. It has all red flags possible for a sky channel

[whole agate]

How y'all feel about the confetti cannon? 👀

[dreamy grail]

They heart all the comments, even knowing they're caught in the act-

[chrome ivy]

Wdym Drama?

[boreal lark]

It's been over a week since the last update.

[shadow stratus]

Not exactly drama , but there was a thumbnail with the shield image thing and a angry face with the title" TGC SHOULD BRING THIS BACK NOW!!". Unnecessary if you ask me

[maiden pond]

I cringe every time I see those thumbnails each time I look up stuff regarding Sky beta.

[chrome ivy]

Also, 3rd Anniversary event still testing at the Office right? And I think I might just missed it

[shadow stratus]

Not sure, might be gone already

[hollow compass]

No, that’s long gone.

[chrome ivy]

Damn it, I just forgot to test the 3rd Anniversary.

[maiden pond]

There's always videos you can watch of it. Except Sky Baby Children. And any other sus Sky beta YouTuber that has an unnecessary amount of currency in their videos.

[dreamy grail]

Testing happened WAYYYYYYYY before shattering even started

[chrome ivy]

I just realize when I saw the 3rd beta review. And curiously, There's already testing happen way before SOS

[hollow compass]

Maybe consider not mentioning YT channels that have questionable content. 😉 Besides, it’s up to the individual to make a choice there.

[oak field]

Beta bug regarding charging light in trial fire, carried over to live, lol
#bug-reports-android message

[whole agate]

I do appreciate knowing who to avoid and distrust, though!

[chrome ivy]

I missed these days of thatchatbot

[hollow compass]

Yes, but for each person who is responsible like that, there are many lurkers who are curious and will drive up their views. Much like we shouldn’t discuss actual hacks either.

[ashen tusk]

Looking for doot from Sagomay

[oak field]

Has anyone experienced it on sky live? I haven't been to the trial fire since the latest update came

[iron elbow]

yep, trial of fire is basically impossible solo now

[oak field]

Is it a bug?

[iron elbow]

it has to be, wouldn't make sense otherwise

[dry gazelle]

There's being a while i didn't log in beta. My wasteland is in pink like the darkness are dropping here. Is that a bug or just because i didn't finish the last quest?

[naive trail]

wait they actually made the crawling mechanic go into live? 😭 they did not listen to all the "this is awful" feedbacks????

[oak field]

I've reported this bug to TGC , but it's not fixed by TGC

[iron elbow]

nothing was fixed from beta to live

[naive trail]

i am so not going in eden anymore until changes are made. it went from a slow boring awful progress to a even more slow and super frustrating progress

[iron elbow]

well, to be fair, endless rain section got shorter

[naive trail]

Yeah, thats like the only slightly positive part, aside from that its absolute hell now.. besides with the crawling at the end the old endless rain section still took less long than it does now

[steady falcon]

It because your wings increase, thats why need more harder, more challanging

[naive trail]

i get that but this was a bad execution. I cant even imagine a new player having to do this. if I were new id probably uninstall the game right there and then

[whole agate]

Sky is my respite, if I wanted a challenge I'd play a different game

[iron elbow]

kinda think it was to balance out the ac farming we can now do with shards

[steady falcon]

Well tbh its only eden, no problem at all

[hushed arch]

they were always gonna add it no matter how much we complained

[naive trail]

yeah and eden has the currency that I need to collect to buy literally any kinda nice permanent cosmetic in the game

[steady falcon]

You can do shard per hour ,

[ashen tusk]

I wonder if any of the devs have ever looked at new season content they weren't part of making and just went "nah not for me" like I wanna know if any of them looked at the crawl mechanic and cried like us

[raw wasp]

90% chance thats the case

Iirc the devs have expressed that internal disagreements are pretty common and that opinions vary a lot amongst themselves. ykyk?

[warm wyvern]

Ok so I have a question, how are we supposed to get to the Kingdom of Sky once the season is over?

[raw wasp]

Also i’d say thats a given because they’re people like us in a way. Which is that they’re people

[spark lance]

I mean Kingdom of Sky mean the whole 6 realms

[warm wyvern]

I meant the seasonal part

[spark lance]

You mean the void map?

[warm wyvern]

Yes the void part and all the memories where the winged lights are placed

[spark lance]

Idk

[trail portal]

I feel like thats probably still being discussed like they haven't decided how its gonna come back as ts

[sterile cobalt]

so please tell me im not the only one who noticed the tag on the official twitter says #thtaskygame instead of #thatskygame with the known issue post

[raw wasp]

HFHCJVHNNVN

[trail portal]

Theres apparently a second half to the season supposed to be coming to beta possibly soon it was really vague so theres not much we know about it yet

Unless they spilled the beans while i was gone lol

[serene shell]

How does one go about joining beta

[warm wyvern]

Ah ok I was hope this wasn’t it and that they would expand on this.

[sterile cobalt]

wait so we'll only have a week or so to test it? or will it happen the way it did in beta too for live????
alsojusy realized i said the twitter thing in beta chat help 😭

[hollow compass]

No, season will likely be extended like always.

[trail portal]

Im hoping it wont change anything for the beginning of the season and itll just change some of the end or add something in the middle

[warm wyvern]

Same I like the beginning but just add some stuff

[unborn patrol]

#beta-faq

[nova bay]

I assume it will be towards the last quest that the new stuff gets added, like music hall before

[dreamy grail]

Wait for invite waves (they're random) - head to #beta-faq for more info (it's best reading there before asking questions like such), there's some reaction roles you might Wana pick up

[dense glade]

How did I see people from the global already accessing the next season's area?

[broken bison]

By black magic

[sterile cobalt]

hacks most likely, i don't think there is a bug that allows you to enter

[warm wyvern]

Hackers probably

[unborn patrol]

Hackers

[hollow compass]

Where are you seeing that?

[chrome ivy]

Maybe it was beta and mask it as Live. "They should add a watermark [Beta Work in Progress]

[dense glade]

Some screenshots of people interacting with the crystal that says "available in 10 days"

[floral crystal]

I kinda want to be a beta tester, but is it even worth it? I really wanted to give tgc the benefit of doubt, but...
Looking at just how far back the complaints and criticism started, and how only a tiny portion was actually listen to, it just looks bad.
Heck a second half of the season shouldn't be necessary unless there was actual stuff they needed to get in but couldn't, but there's so much missing from this half. If this second half is actually better, it could mean something much worse; tgc only made the second half because they didn't fix the first half and wanted to draw attention away from the failure of the 1st half. It's so disheartening, but hopefully the 2nd half is better anyways. When you hit rock bottom, you either stay at rock bottom or you start going back up.

[dreamy grail]

There is a bug regarding the memory candles but that brings you to the empty limbo where milk boy is when you died by crebs/krill/dark water (unless that's been patched)

[spark lance]

Hackers.

[chrome ivy]

worst season of the Sky history: Season of Shattering

[exotic drift]

I think it's a very creative season, but there is no denying that it's really scary.

[warm wyvern]

Maybe not, they still aren’t done with it. It could turn out ok. I still haven’t finished the season of Assembly in the beta because you have to have people help you with the quests and honestly to me that was one of the worst for me because I can’t get anyone to help 🤣🤣

[trail portal]

I think theres a lot to like about shattering but the problem is that isnt the same stuff we want to like about it yet im really hoping for something more story related than dark rooms of creature statues

[chrome ivy]

But...
Quality of execution: 0%

[exotic drift]

maybe

[dreamy grail]

Most people just don't like shattering due to the monotonousy of it; that's all
Evening Alex

[orchid nexus]

watch your hyperbole, everyone! you don't have to like anything that's in dev or that's released, but genuinely rude or hurtful comments about it are not necessary

[dreamy grail]

Agreed, couldn't agree more Alex. There's a difference than not liking a cosmetic and basically degrading TGC's work calling it a mistake ect. They're as human as we are, they're not robots, the Devs have feelings as much as each and every one of us does

[orchid nexus]

And keep in mind that feedback in any volume doesn't mean that devs are required (or even able) to overhaul any given thing. lots of feedback before this season included requests for things that we see in this season

[dreamy grail]

Honestly me and my partner are REALLY hyped for this to come to live, I screenshared a bunch with her especially on day one and we discovered shards and their use basically off the login so it was really interesting learning it all without help

[drowsy sundial]

I just wish we had a new emote or two . Otherwise I love the cosmetics can't wait to be a dark skid. Or at least a new pose!

[chrome ivy]

I don't really mind about cosmetics but mostly about the lore. The season that centered at the main lore but no story. Kinda disappointed

[dreamy grail]

Devs stated it's focal point was on new mechanics and gameplay rather than spirits for once, so in a way it's a nice break of such? But also a way of dealing with permanent features too

We'll likely see an eden season sometime next year or the one afterwards following up shattering with massive lore depths and indetails of the king/prince too!

[chrome ivy]

Rename the season to season of the dark plants

[hollow compass]

But there are no new mechanics or gameplay.

[sterile cobalt]

rename the season to season of suffering

[trail portal]

Yea i just kinda wish they made it something different than a season, i feel like the word season comes with certain expectations and those weren't really what we got this season. Ik its too late to change anything now but i wish they had called it something other than a season and just skip a season to add game mechanics

[dreamy grail]

Crawling, damage, shards

[chrome ivy]

"Reused Mechanic's."

[hollow compass]

Not new. A lot of these things are either reused assets from old beta or just different ways of doing the same thing.

[drowsy sundial]

M-maybe a height slider as a mechanic.

[dreamy grail]

To an extent true..
Anyway I posted a drawing of some concept pants I drew like a month ago, should I drop it into #wishlist-and-ideas-archived?

[warm wyvern]

The only thing that absolutely drives me crazy about this season is the crawling. I know it’s neat when it first happens but after being hit over and over again and not being able to get up, that gets old after the first couple of times 😫😫

[trail portal]

It bothers me that you can get stuck on stairs so easily and just continue to get hit because you cant get out of the way

[dreamy grail]

Oh guys, here's my advice for shards - memory candles, if you do one as the shard starts, replay it over a over when you're low on energy, it helps ESPECIALLY in the shard next to crab mask ( )

[drowsy sundial]

Will I be able to do most of the shards as a solo player though?

[dreamy grail]

Generally yes, however having help makes things more efficient. You'll NEED a memory candle to relight for forest areas

[olive tide]

I’ve been doing them all solo, but sometimes it takes 10+ minutes to do the really difficult ones

[hollow compass]

My experience is that can get lucky and there won’t be an excessive amount of crabs attacking you. But it’s unclear how long the events will last and therefore if you will have time to finish on your own.

[warm wyvern]

I have always done it solo

[dense pilot]

this conversation is starting to make me think that my shards are all broken- they’re super easy to melt the darkness and there’s only ever 2 or 3 crabs

[dreamy grail]

Easiest shards that offer quests;

[sterile cobalt]

idk if we even know the timing if when shards will fall in live?

[sullen relic]

The shards are significantly more dangerous for solo players if you don't have some kind of recharge source nearby (e.g. butterflies, or memory candles of players deep calling). There's a particularly nasty cluster in the Forest Brook, since you're constantly losing light from the rain, and then getting drained even faster when you're burning near any volatile red crystals

[woeful obsidian]

Still positive comments on forum about new eden in live.. Well, Still... Still....

[olive tide]

I’ve had to use tons of recharge potions, that’s for sure. It’s stressful being a solo player

[trail portal]

Lol the only reason i didnt use recharge potions is because i dont have any and ill end up having to wander around till i find a lit lamp or something or on the rare occasion i remembered to bring something go stand near that

[woeful obsidian]

I carry always a firepot. Take useful things on your daily route! Firepot is always helpful.. Even in oob and granny... So why always running with Instruments.. So useless. Just use full in social area hang out with friends.

[olive tide]

I personally like to play music a lot :( sometimes I get upset if I don’t have an instrument, so I wouldn’t call them useless. But if I’m going specifically to find a shard, then maybe I’ll try to make a habit out of bringing a prop. I heard some of them disappear though…?

[trail portal]

Yea stuff getting hit can cause it to disappear anyway so sometimes bringing a prop isnt as helpful as it seems

[olive tide]

Darn :/ I’ve found that using the memory candles that others place is really helpful, it distracts the crabs and recharges you if you’re close enough. But it’s not something you can always rely on

[dreamy grail]

A cozy regular seems traumatised-

[trail portal]

Yea i think the memory candles are definitely the most helpful since they actually stay there if hit

[finite flicker]

Guys help 🥲 i cant clear darkness

[mellow echo]

What’s happening here today

[spark lance]

what isn't happening today

[broken bison]

Vibing so hard with the shard soundtrack on sanctuary islands

[dreamy grail]

FRRRR, the new ost is just :pinched_fingers:

[broken bison]

Finally something good about shattering

What does S.H.A.T.T.E.R.I.N.G. possibly stand for?

So, do you like to D I E ??
How these people can survive that shard!
Aint no way ill survive that
The music is pure gold
The shards may not
Extremeeeeeeee!!!
Real pain my guy!
Im gonna roast the season for 3 days straight
No mercy crabs lmao
Gotta enjoy watching moffs getting c r a b b e d

[restive needle]

It’s my birthday today and all I want is lighting accessibility and no strobe effects on Switch in Eden or with the Shard events <3

I’m hoping it’s not as bad on mobile but I dunno

It kind of helped when I zoomed the camera in closer to my skykid but the camera automatically changes a lot once you’re moving….

[broken bison]

Happy birthday Fishyyyy!!

[ashen tusk]

why do I never hear shard music 💀

[spark lance]

Happy birthday!

[dreamy grail]

Is your music muted?

[ashen tusk]

No I specifically maxed it to check for music the last time people mentioned the shards had their own theme song lmao

[plain ore]

There’s specific music? Omg how come I never noticed

Scratch that, it’s cus of the honks and crab sounds probably ._.

[coral cosmos]

yeah here's the shard song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tynAkZCFiA

[twin isle]

I'm v upset that I reported the issues with props losing textures and having lighting issues multiple times in beta and it made it to live.

[pale junco]

Shard song sounds like a sad song

[astral trellis]

really feels like tgc doesn't care at all anymore

[rotund swan]

Kind of sad there’s zero way to foresee how a version will run on switch. I’ve had a lot more performance issues on switch as of this update, even without Shattering starting yet. Lots of stuttering in places I’ve never had stuttering before, even on high performance mode

[astral trellis]

my general rule is everything's gonna be laggier on the switch especially particle effects

[twin isle]

I also have super bad stuttering when moving fast in switch. I never had it before and now it's awful.

[rotund swan]

Yup, for sure. But even in areas that have generally been good in performance (first area of daylight prairie for example) now have frozen up and stuttered a few times spontaneously as of the latest update

[astral trellis]

if tgc even has even one, or more than one playtester they should definitely be fired LOL

[chilly wigeon]

Aren't we technically the playtesters

[restive needle]

Have you been to Eden yet on the switch? The particles of the fog cause a really bad flashing strobe effect since the Live update and I wondered if it was only happening to me

[rotund swan]

I have not been to eden on switch yet but I will go today to check this out! What part of Eden did you see this in?

Also I’m wondering if TGC ever play tests updates on switch ahead of time because this is 100% what I’m experiencing in every realm on switch as well; #bug-reports-switch message

[woeful obsidian]

How looks eden at the eruption time? 🤔

[restive needle]

If that’s the state of affairs in this update I’m super worried about how it’ll carry over to the Shards…
I actually took a video of my experience, I was in the pre-realm before the long tunnel leading to the statues but it was happening in the other realms before it as well. Here’s a link to the video, huge flashing lights warning if you’re sensitive to them #screenshots-and-videos message

[spark lance]

Playing on switch is awful, I'd consider moving back to playing on my phone if sky didn't overheat it into oblivion

[restive needle]

oops sorry meant to reply to you @rotund swan

[rotund swan]

I’d move if I could, but I don’t have another device compatible with the game except for my iPad
But it drains my battery so fast and gets super warm and I’m almost out of storage anyway

[summer chasm]

guys I just installed sky beta from the Play Store, and I managed to play, but I left, and when I left I couldn't enter anymore, it was giving authentication error 😭😭

[gilded parrot]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[restive needle]

I’m tempted to try and write a bug report to showcase the flashing in Eden but I don’t know if it counts as a true bug or if it’s “as intended.” I still don’t know if mobile Eden deals with the same problem, I might try to check that out today

[spark lance]

Yeah sky drains battery ridiculously fast + causes overheating really fast as well, it's an issue on my switch too but it's so much worse on mobile devices

[rotund swan]

Dang, I’m not even sensitive to flashing lights and watching this hurts my head. I can’t imagine how people with sensitivities must feel about this

They need to make it so the fog effects don’t cover up the sky kid’s light/crystal light as heavily every time it brushes past, so it lessens the contrasting flickering that’s happening here.

[restive needle]

I’m this close to dedicating myself to posting it in #live-feedback every day. Somebody else in this chat reached out to me to post the video on the Sky official facebook page, hopefully it can get some traction there.

[dreamy grail]

Dew it

[rotund swan]

Someone mentioned due to Nintendo’s rules, only one hotfix can be posted per year for a game. Unfortunately I fear we won’t see a patch for this until potentially halfway through the season for another event such as Days of Summer.

But if any mobile players here can do eden in live and confirm the same thing is happening there, we can rule out if this is a bug or a new feature thats inaccessible to people with photo sensitivity.

[blazing kraken]

I just watched the new season trailer and WHAT IN THE EYE OF JESUS-

[hollow compass]

There's a new season trailer?

[steady pond]

with nintendos update policy it almost seems as though it could be mutually beneficial for TGC to slow down on events/seasons so they can dedicate more time to bug fixes

[unborn patrol]

what trailer?

[restive needle]

where is the trailer??

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[chilly wigeon]

What trailer

[blazing kraken]

Okay I checked again and I had confused a trailer with an opening cutscene + a couple in-season stuff

But still from what I had seen the new season looks scary ;-;

[vagrant pilot]

VERY SCARY

[devout crest]

I got one question, does the elder hair still protects from krill attacks or that was fixed?

[hollow compass]

Amazing how a bug that lasted all of a day makes it onto the internet and lives on forever.

[restive needle]

RE: advocating for accessibility in regards to the lighting, I’d show off the message that Ash responded to me with about continuing to bring it up in feedback but I dont know how to disable pings in replies. But what they said about it made me feel a little more confident when I was feeling incredibly discouraged about how it seems none of these issues are in the mind of the development team when the resulting end product is so so so hostile to people with disabilities/photosensitivity despite trying to keep up the discussion and submit feedback and make people aware. Trying to run Eden last night on the Switch totally killed that confidence all over again. I’ll be attempting to submit my video in live feedback daily if it doesn’t count as spam, but I really can’t say that I have much faith at all anymore in how accessible SoS will be if the strobe in Eden made it to live. What a nightmare.

[queen wedge]

I mean that's what you get when every single small beta update gets covered on YouTube, etc 💀

[hollow compass]

I think many companies forget about disabilities if they don't have someone on the team who is in that category.

[queen wedge]

I'm hoping it's at least addressed in this future update, they've seen how many complaints there's been about it

[hollow compass]

I wish I could say I'm optimistic, but the game has been flashy from start.

[frank slate]

And even without a disability, playing in the impenetrable red haze in areas like Wasteland caused me such serious eyestrain that I developed terrible headaches. I wrote feedback, but I’ve yet to see any change to that lighting.

[shrewd needle]

There was no flashing in Eden originally, that was added about a year after release.

Sorry, where is the story quest darkness shards? I am in Forest and only finding the normal candle ones, no shards have turned up with Grandma.

[gilded parrot]

I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first

[glacial barn]

The switch flickering in dreams has finally been fixed, so I'm a little hopeful for further graphical comfort being introduced... Though the pessimist in my expects it might take up to a year or two to implement ^^;

[restive needle]

Yeah, I only mention disability/chronic conditions that make you sensitive to light just because that’s my experience. But anybody can experience eye strain and get headaches from it even if you aren’t already sensitive. Certain parts of the game in live have been too bright with the bloom effect causing sudden brightness (I mean, try getting into the dress up areas during daytime Home) and I’ve dealt with it using certain tweaks to my hardware like Nightime mode on my phone or turning the brightness down on Switch (which doesn’t do much. switch has accessibility lighting issues too) but this is an entirely new level. It’s abelist even if it’s not the intent.

[hasty moth]

part of me thinks that the flickering in dreams took so long to fix because theres less players playing on the switch vs ios/android but on the other... its been reported countless times for months
hopefully theyll fix the graphical issues now since its effecting everyone at least

[restive needle]

My big fear is that not enough people in live will bring up the strobe in Eden so it’ll get brushed aside as being a low priority thing and we’ll have to deal with it for who knows how long. I’m dreading SoS even more now if that amount of flashing is what the dev team decides is acceptable for Live.

[hollow compass]

I didn't mean Eden specifically, but more the general gameplay: light bloom, transitions, effects from birds and butterflies, firework staff, the old ability to completely blind everyone by spamming deep call. All of these things tell me that nobody on the team thought about how difficult these things are for the brain and eyes to process in continuous gameplay. There's not even a warning at the start of the game.

[hasty moth]

im just staying* hopeful. more people will be doing eden now with the new update so theyll report any issues they find... right...? (coping) (praying)

[twin isle]

Did it get fixed with the 0.18.0 update? I should check bc that always sucked

[hasty moth]

it did! its actually really bareable now LOL

[spark lance]

A lot of mobile games I’ve played have screen options that allow you to turn off certain affects like bloom and flashing, I wish sky had something similar in its settings

[dense pilot]

this!! i have no disabilities/chronic conditions but the flashing and some effects in the new season caused major eye strain and headaches for me. i do hope it’s changed/addressed

[restive needle]

Because all the footage from beta is on mobile I have no frame of reference for Shards will look on Switch and I gotta tell ya gang: it will probably be bad

[spark lance]

Switch has had glaring performance issues for a long time and I wish I knew why, that thing can run pretty hefty titles no issue so I think it’s just unoptimizable?? I was there for switch testing and i don’t recall it being as bad as it is now

I mean how can some parts of switch run as poorly as sky on my iPhone 6s that can barely run safari without crashing

[restive needle]

Seriously I’m so upset about this I wanna say bad words shdhdhfjdkd ugh

[spark lance]

Sometimes I feel like TGC just has too much on their plate

[restive needle]

RIGHT as I started to get back into Sky it gets harder to play without physical pain and will likely only get harder with SoS. oh the misery

[spark lance]

I rlly hope they take some time to just sit down and address some of the major game breaking bugs and optimization issues at some point but that’s easier said than done so idk…

[quiet obsidian]

heya beta folk, anything new to note with beta? it got so repetitive and tedious that i got beta burnout and i cant be bothered to play anymore

[spark lance]

SoS still testing. I get how you feel, I’m going on an extended beta hiatus for a while, sky burn out is too strong

[cinder chasm]

I ran Eden in mobile live and there were various glitches but no flashing that I noticed

[vital hawk]

Has the crawling been added to live yet?
Edit: thank you I need to uhhh visit the wasteland for now with my 61 wings reason

[hollow estuary]

i was hoping it would only start when the season starts and i'd still have time to go once without the crawl but.... looks like im not going

still got 10ac left from my last trip so if i only buy ts wl with it it's good for the next 5

[vital hawk]

The big plant- it's gonna be impossible to burn now

[strong sentinel]

I have one. I was too busy going to eden these weeks and planned for upcoming Saturday

[glacial barn]

*thankful I've saved 90ac in live

[strong sentinel]

They might as well just remove it all together. Let's say a shard crushed it's roots beyond repair.

[vital hawk]

THE SOUND WHEN YOUR CRAWLING sounds like your stepping on glass

[strong sentinel]

Horror movie mode on

[dreamy grail]

Guys, just a question, would letting people know we aren't getting cutscenes be safe to pass onto peeps or no? 👀

[hollow compass]

safe in what sense?

[strong sentinel]

Naw. Let TGC get their feedback from live folk

[dreamy grail]

It's already confirmed stuff from Devs just not said in notes or anything, wouldn't want peeps to be disappointed now would we?

[hollow compass]

we've been asked to tone it down in the Live channel, i think
so I suppose, let Live players experience it themselves and decide

[strong sentinel]

If they be easy in their disappointment expect more static rooms then

[sterile cobalt]

according to a lot of people i know who play on switch, "tgc just doesnt really care about switch players" and there are some times i feel that too

[dreamy grail]

[hollow estuary]

yeah switch has a lot of issues lol, the game wasnt made to be played on controller and it shows. and nintendo's update review policy prevents quick fixes for stuff

[zenith mist]

switch definitely feels like its much lower priority than mobile at times. sometimes i wonder why there even is a switch port. ppl cant even run the game on android sometimes lol

[sterile cobalt]

not just that, but using controllers on mobile just looks better than it does on switch, and i know its just a compensation issue in general but last time there was a major bug on switch (start of feast) a lot of switch players got compensation that didnt have the bug and many who had it didnt get compensated

[shrewd needle]

Please help me!
A friend of mine is behind and has only gotten the first story stage of the season, but for some reason the red darkness is not loading anywhere in Forest. Is it somewhere else?

[hollow estuary]

i wish there was still a switch beta but nintendo doesnt allow it

[vital hawk]

Also this is an actual thing? You big honk krill will notice you because that just happened

[sterile cobalt]

another thing to be upset about towards nintendo, not allowing frequent patch updates
idk why they even don't allow it but it feels like it can get frustrating

[spark lance]

Nintendo makes everything a pain

[strong sentinel]

Everything pain at this point. I'm sad

[shadow stratus]

Its much more easier now

[quiet obsidian]

just tried to guide 5 strangers up eden in live, only 2 made it to the end and the other three quit. The two that made it up only did so because i added them and took them to the top myself. I cant believe TGC went forwards with this, and i’m fearing the reactions when the season itself finally starts.

[fast nebula]

Not today. These two shards only give wax. Perhaps there is a chance in Valley tomorrow. In order to complete the quests you need the shards that give ascended candles. Good luck to your friend!

[shadow stratus]

Completing red crystals aparentally only give a chance of completing the quest according to the live release patch notes so yeah.
This is the only thing i rlly dislike about the shards

[woeful obsidian]

Little prince was so nice season. They had done an extra space for the cape. Where you can go by airplane.. Why do they doing the void? Why not doing the same space where you can get your wings back after eden?

I feel they putting mor love into the season back before.. It becomes evil with every season after prince... No love.. No lore.. Just fast fast fast doing some foods to us for eating.. And the main work just to go on anime live convention.. Or colab with some.. Not putting any afford into the new seasons.

[shadow stratus]

We just come out of performance wich was a great season tho

[wispy marlin]

Performance made up for Abyss but I'm still salty with the amount of concept that was scratched for Abyss itself

[woeful obsidian]

Yeah. But too why throwing so much instruments out.. Its the opposite of the next season. Instruments and music hall is for relaxing with friends. But this season now its war! It's the hell in sky... No want to spend relaxing time here anymore.

[shadow stratus]

Was still a decent season that cant be said that they didnt put some love into it, thats my point

[wispy marlin]

Abyss in itself was a great season but looking at the concept art just makes me feel sad at all the cut stuff

[woeful obsidian]

I just feel empty. With this season now.. Its not season for me. It's just new adjustments..

[lament belfry]

i don't like how they're sending out the season still so unpolished and unfinished.

[shadow stratus]

Im used to see thousands of good things if multiple concept arts being cut from games released so i dont mind these much, but i do see the frustration

[shadow stratus]

Yeah i know its frustrating, but just dont let frustration make up your mind and focus on all the bad stuff they recently added, there was also great aditions.

[woeful obsidian]

Yes. I like this new atmosphere. If the sky change.. Not always the same sky.. Its like a real weather atmosphere.

[shadow stratus]

Yeah, its ok to not like some of the stuff, my point is that people are exagerating by saying that the game has no love put on it anymore or calling the devs lazy, its just a "bad" season, we will survive it, its no big deal

[valid terrace]

thank you for saying this
I have faith in the devs, they just need to learn better general management (not saying in a mean way. I mean it honestly)

though I am worried for people starting in this season, though I was like this for people starting in LP and they turned out fine

[woeful obsidian]

I was standing in Prarie. As the eruption comes.. And the strong storm put my skykid away.

That will be awfull to afk Player there are hiding under trees or houses. In forest and if they blown away from the storm... And landing in dark water or rain... It will be Desaster.

[autumn elk]

Sometimes scrapped/concept stuff comes back in future seasons, iirc some of the prophecy masks were throwbacks to some concept art from a loooong time ago

[valid terrace]

I know I have brought this up a bazillion times but I'm scared of not being able to relax in areas anymore
I hope I still can

[autumn elk]

I presume the red crystals will be on the respective portal that the shards will fall, you can just avoid that realm and relax in the other ones

[shadow stratus]

Just beware of the daily quests realms and you should be alright

[valid terrace]

what about quests in an area
e.g. ark rainbow? am I not allowed to chill in there anymore
it's the most precious quest to me

[torn girder]

i noticed this thing today, i went to gw (broken temple area) and had to go away for a sec while my skid is in a cutscene of falling to the start. once i came back, my skid was in the dark water pretty far away from the spawn. no idea how this happened, but if i didn’t notice i’d lose a bunch of wls

[nova bay]

Its new, if you don’t skip you will fly on and not land with your face in the sand anymore.

[autumn elk]

You can, there wont always be shards in the same area as the quests and im sure like grandma/geyser they will be time sensitive and predictable

[torn girder]

oh, why did they do this then?

[nova bay]

Idk but I like it tbh XD

[valid terrace]

but I don't wanna have to do time management for not CRing
this is making me more deterred

[chilly wigeon]

I feel like it would be better to see if the second half of this season improves anything before saying it's the worst ever

[torn girder]

i hope that shards won’t be as frequent as in beta rn or i’ll have to skip grandma if shards are gonna be there

[fast nebula]

I kind of like the being blown away.... 🥳

[autumn elk]

Well theres not much i can suggest outside of just avoiding the window they fall if they stress you out. The devs are very set on this mechanic despite our feedback so it’s something we all have to work around

[valid terrace]

am I gonna have to be set on a schedule at all times for doing anything now

may have to drop it

[shadow stratus]

Basically 1 each 5 days you wont be able to vibe in ark
Maybe 1 each 10 because they dont always fall in the same spot

[cursive tinsel]

We don't know how often the shards will fall in love do we?
It could be just once a day

[autumn elk]

If i were to guess probably hourly for the season and every other hour after the season (when the shard is not a daily)

[valid terrace]

why is this game telling us when we're not allowed to simply vibe in areas I hate it

I hate this so much

[shadow stratus]

That would be too little, when the season start it will be at least an hour by hour

[wispy marlin]

They did mention that the shards will fall at lesser rates than beta, don't think they said anything specific though

[autumn elk]

Another way to vibe is to have a moth account and just never do eden iirc shards only happen if you complete eden

[valid terrace]

are you ever gonna be able to appreciate special things in areas ever again or do you have to be alert

the ark is my comfort area idk what to do anymore

[chilly wigeon]

Just sit in the ark and don't do the shards it might be more red but the shards don't cover everything

[iron elbow]

season is available for anyone who's done forest, so-

[sinful bough]

Shards don't fall in every area every day though right? You can still enjoy the areas when the shards are in a different place.

[wispy marlin]

Just out of curiosity what changes have been made to the new update regarding things to do with the season (aside from the ways that the character reacts when damaged and also how deep honking doesn't recharge sharded+crawling skids [I'm guessing anyway] or is that all?)

[autumn elk]

Is it? I thought i read somewhere new moths had to finish eden to participate

[valid terrace]

but what about if I want to relive my moth season spirits as the daily but I have to monitor that

I am 🤏 this close to abandoning this

[cursive tinsel]

Patch notes say forest now @autumn elk, but I had thought they said eden in beta

[valid terrace]

they market this as a game of relaxation but God Forbid you go to the daily quest realm for Anything but dailies lest you want to get utterly destroyed

[hasty vessel]

Damn forest completion?! This season just keeps getting worse LOL these poor moths

[autumn elk]

Maybe try Isle? I dint think shards ever fall there

[cursive tinsel]

Look it hasn't started yet, ark or any area isn't guaranteed to get hit each time it comes to the realm. It could be 2+ weeks before it returns there

Give it a go when the season settles and see if you can bear it

[sinful bough]

Shards don't really affect you unless you decide to actively participate in cleaning them up though no?

[chilly wigeon]

They dont

[final garden]

They change the color of the area. I would definitely consider that as affecting players

[valid terrace]

I don't want to go to Isle all the time just to avoid it
do you think I want to have to monitor every step and schedule chilling when that should be saved for CR

[autumn elk]

I guess the blood red color of the sky in the affected area is a bit off putting to some

[hasty vessel]

The entire area turns red, explosion sounds and the screen shakes no?

[fast nebula]

I think we should just wait and see. Even now, how often do you ever come across an active dinner at grandma's or geyser when you happen to be in the area? I doubt the shard events will be much different.

[iron elbow]

I mean it's good to seek alternative realms/areas to vibe in, but it's really hard to cope with the fact that sky won't be peaceful ever again

[wispy marlin]

To be fair it is a choice to collect candles and cosmetics, they're called cosmetics for a reason. I'm not trying to be mean here, just saying that you can relax in sky as it is now

[valid terrace]

this could genuinely ruin the game for me

[sinful bough]

I don't really mind the visual changes, I think it adds a nice change of pace and makes the areas look really cool for pics, but I understand how it can affect the game play for others, especially when their main focus is the peaceful atmosphere.

[autumn elk]

Maybe post season they drop shards frequencies to 1-2 times a day, i hope live player feedback will have an impact on this

[shadow stratus]

I think that as the events frequency drops, the effects would also drop

[valid terrace]

all I mean is when I want to. say. drift around the lazy river in treehouse and talk. go to prophecy to lore infodump and trial fun. go to ark to meet my skykid's 'parents'. run around in the butterfly fields carefree. put on silly plays with people

are we no longer allowed that without having to be mindful of timing

[shadow stratus]

I just think its sad that they having to drop the shard frequency can mean that is really hard to grind of them :/
Hope they last a bit longer once it happen

[iron elbow]

crab shards are def gonna be a thing still, otherwise the shards even being there would be pointless

[valid terrace]

what if you don't want to grind?? what if you want aday off but the shards interrupt you trying to talk about your favourite spirits in the wind paths

[fast nebula]

I really, really wouldn't speculate so much. It only causes emotions to rise that may turn out to have been all for nothing

[cursive tinsel]

Actually I've not noticed eden explosion outside of the daily realm and forest/gw going pink no matter what

Bug or intentional?

[autumn elk]

Change isn’t always the easiest thing, but it’s futile at this moment we tried through feedback but the devs have their own plan. Maybe when the season gets closer to its end in live we will get adjustments. But for now you may have to just schedule things around shards if you want to avoid them

[shadow stratus]

Intentional i think

[valid terrace]

it changes the entire game for me what am I supposed to do

I'm being told I can no longer play the way I do

[autumn elk]

Thats by design, they stated this in the first blogpost regarding this season that sky will be changing

[iron elbow]

still, I think new moths will have an impression that sky world is actively trying to kill them

[autumn elk]

And they are absolutely correct

[shadow stratus]

I think once the season ends the shards will keep falling from 2 to 4 times a day (1 would be too restrictive to people who want to grind it, or completing the season quests) and the effects (explosion,red area) would only hit the shard areas

[valid terrace]

I like to film videos, what if that messes up filming? I don't wanna have us to be so time-conscious
this is One thing without too many constraints (in terms of daily things. i.e. geyser/dinner)

do I have to learn time management in something I play to avoid that

ok ok ok

I'm the worst catastrophiser I know. I wish this break would be peaceful but uncertainty is making the anxiety I took a break for get way worse
stop overthinking Vol it's n e v e r as bad as you ever think

[spark lance]

Just imagine being a moth and minding your business then you see a huge shard rapidly falling towards you 💀

[valid terrace]

• a player of any level of experience that wants nothing to do with this

especially moths though

[final garden]

Vol, I'm not really sure what to tell you. I honestly think you'll have to play it for yourself and see what you think, and then we'll all be able to discuss it more here and in the live channels. I'm not trying to dismiss your concerns at all, though; I understand why you're worried

[autumn elk]

• honks * im in danger

[valid terrace]

so basically I'm completely screwed for wanting to do something other than grinding/time-sensitive activities?

[iron elbow]

we'll have to wait and see to find that out

[spark lance]

grandma's dumplings would be extra spicy with super saiyan crabs

[valid terrace]

I don't want to rage quit, but with how much I hate collabs?

if I make it through this season and the next I will be so proud of myself for being strong

[cursive tinsel]

Imagine....not like they put the shards right outside granny's or anything

[valid terrace]

why market this game as an escapist game only to tear that from anyone who actually plays it as such
i'm not saying this is evil. i'm just very upset

[raw wasp]

Hahaha that would be really bad thank goodness thats not what happened… right guys…..!??!!?????22211

[glass spoke]

for some reason i can't upvote, but THIS

[spark lance]

Not grandma totally unaware of what's happening outside her house(?)

[autumn elk]

Maybe they will review their marketing after the season starts as: very stressful gardening

[glass spoke]

g a r d e n i n g ?

[autumn elk]

I call burning darkness on the shards as getting rid of weeds in aGarden

[iron elbow]

can't wait to reach my sky retirement, with enough candles and bought out ts, just to vibe in abyss and wind paths, until they add shards to those too

[glass spoke]

been doing that for a while now except in oobs

[iron elbow]

also, I can't help but notice, but patch notes said the first weeks are going to be all crab shards? oh boi

[maiden pond]

After seeing so many players crawling through Eden intentionally after the update, it feels so much more risky to save them. I nearly lost my wings, you can't afford to even take one hit with 11 wedges. It instantly takes you out.

[shadow stratus]

That will be great for the AC economy

[iron elbow]

but at what cost

[maiden pond]

Winged lights.

[iron elbow]

wls are the least of my worries
vibes are gonna be ruined

[shadow stratus]

Some suffering at first, but i think for people who gonna adventure themselves on trying this, will eventually learn how to dodge better, be safe etc
I was doing fine solo on beta, only issue were the only 5 flaps i had lol

[maiden pond]

You guys can take a look in #eden-spoilers and see this one player intentionally getting themselves krilled and rocked.

[valid terrace]

is it worth playing this anymore or do I have to stop enjoying what I love doing so in a stress-free manner

[restive needle]

I’m still baffled as to how TGC thinks that Live reaction won’t be so bad. I remember yesterday a dev commented something along the lines of “beta can really despair over something that turns out to not be an issue to most players in live, perceptions can be different.” I mean kudos to the optimism and that is technically true but I really don’t think that live is going to be anything but beta x 100

[shadow stratus]

I think beta is dramatizing this too much lol

[iron elbow]

750 no's

[restive needle]

and Live won’t dramatize?

[valid terrace]

like. what if I'm making a video that requires a big elaborate set-up but filming gets screwed over and it has to be re-done
am I gonna be limited in where and when I film from now on? that takes the fun out of it

like. shared spaces, but those are very limited in location

[twin isle]

Every time I look at the Nos on the 0.18.0 patch update it makes me laugh

[restive needle]

I’m only feeling so pessimistic because I’m worried about how accessible the gameplay will be for me. So far it doesn’t look like this will be easy for me to play without pain and I’m very sad about that as I really like the cosmetics.

[sinful bough]

That's so unfortunate to hear. I feel I've seen so many beta testers on here give way better solutions to the features that were added that could give players a better experience while still holding onto the new feel that they wanted to give with this new season.

[valid terrace]

what do I do anymore? am I no longer allowed to enjoy activities

[twin isle]

All we can really truly do is not buy AP and give feedback really. Even then feels kind of pointless. Grand majority will probably still buy AP.

[restive needle]

Even if you don’t have an issue with flashing lights/highly contrasting lights/flickering I hope that others can understand where people who do struggle with those things in Sky are coming from

[valid terrace]

tfw you really like the spirit robe and want it to dress up as spirits

it's the one thing I like

[shadow stratus]

I dont think that not buying ap changes much since all the ap does is give you acess to more cosmetics, i dont think it tells if you like the season or not

[iron elbow]

So sorry for your situation. It really does look like it's going to take a while for anything to be done at that department, maybe even well after shattering's done
Remember to always put your health first, it's not worth risking it over a game

[autumn elk]

I saw one of the devs mention something about 18.5 update adding some stuff for the season potentially, I presume it will extend testing and more than likely come before live release. It’s possible it will have visual improvements ect

[maiden pond]

Live players are already complaining about it in mass, and even in game I see players struggling to learn the new mechanic, veterans and moths alike. So when I get near them to light them they get so confused and carry on only to get hurt in Eden again and again. They try deep calling, but nope. I don't understand how this is going to slide by with everyone in general. I have to prioritize keeping myself safer than ever now because I cannot afford to even take a hit from any rocks up to pnr climb, where I see most players struggle. The Krill makes it even worse because once a player gets caught they'll try to either rush to the tunnel or fall back to where I'm behind cover, and if I don't react fast enough I'll get krilled too, and I know a safe spot out of the krill's spotlight but if I don't rush or it's already in locked on mode on another player, it can seemingly hit me even if I'm not in the spotlight.

Also, my props get destroyed behind cover too. This makes it extremely frustrating because the increased cooldown means I can't place it to help a player light themselves again without it getting destroyed.

[twin isle]

It supports tgc. I said I didn't think it would do much bc most people would still buy. If they notice a massive drop in AP sales (which probably won't happen) then they'd probably realize this season wasn't a good one. I also mentioned feedback but it feels like they don't really listen.

[sinful bough]

If anything I feel like people will want to buy the ap more considering nodes require more seasonal candles than the normal season

[valid terrace]

so much has gone wrong and I don't want to abandon it in such a state but it's just too depressing that I might be unable to do what I love doing anymore

[autumn elk]

That and the long waited for krill cape

[twin isle]

I feel like they'll have to bring back deep call recharge. Like so many people alr in live are confused about it and don't understand. I assume mass feedback and bug reports from people who don't read patch notes will happen.

[valid terrace]

it's going to get in the way of my favourite things to do
those are the big reasons I love this still

is it trying to make me quit

[iron elbow]

85 candle would've just made people give up on shattering, but 35 candles on the first node is still very discouraging imo

[restive needle]

Yeah, fact is a majority of players don’t check beta, don’t watch any kind of beta content on youtube, don’t check anything on the actual Sky website like news updates, and CERTAINLY don’t read patch notes. And because of that they have no idea what to expect and what these gameplay changes mean. There’s already a lot of confusion and it’s only going to get so much worse when the struggle becomes dealing with these new mechanics WHILE ALSO trying to figure out Shards. I cant imagine why anybody at TGC would think otherwise.

[valid terrace]

is it worth it anymore for someone like me

[autumn elk]

FOMO is far too strong in this community for a very effective boycott unfort... I think thats why TGC knows they can cut content (emotes cutscenes dedicated area) and still charge the same 9.99 because they KNOW people will still buy it so they dont miss out

[maiden pond]

As someone who actively tries to take risks all the time in Eden, the number of moths and veterans I've seen trying deep calling to reignite an extinguished player is astonishing after this update. They all got confused, and the only thing I find very helpful is the injury beacon warning, because now I can tell who is injured or not. But if I seemingly even take as little as one hit, I'm as useful as an acorn on the ground.

[restive needle]

Vol I don’t think that anybody here can answer that for you but yourself. I’d suggest you at least see how you can handle the Shard events once they hit live and aren’t happening as frequently as they do in beta testing before you abandon the game.

[twin isle]

Beta people I know are camping out in gw in live to help extinguished players bc of the confusion😭

[valid terrace]

a good thing about this season: it seems to be uniting concerned people to teach those who don't know

[iron elbow]

fomo and the culture of seeing ults as a proof you've been there for the season really helps ANY ap sell

[restive needle]

It seems like TGC wants to push the idea of player cooperation even more than it already is. But the fact they’re chosing to do that by making the game even more of a struggle to play by yourself feels like a bad way to do it.

[valid terrace]

I only fairly recently accepted that words and passion are enough to say I'm an Enchantment moth

only a few months ago

[spark lance]

Emotes are nice and all but if im honest I don't use at least 50% of them. I don't care for more to clog this clunky emote menu UI lol

[maiden pond]

They need to do these, at least:

-Nerf the damage taken by rocks so you can at least take 2-3 hits before getting knocked to a crawl.

-More lamp posts. There needs to be slightly more where players can crawl to if they get extinguished.

-Make rechargeable props or props in general have the same hitbox as the player when behind cover. Rocks still destroyed my prop behind cover when it literally was not in the way of rocks.

-Increase the overall speed of all rechargeable props in general. Some charge way too slow.

I'll submit in #live-feedback.

[narrow current]

Honestly same. Id rather stances or calls. I use like 5 emotes or 10 emotes at max. Most of them being random situations lol.

[restive needle]

Please copy paste that into feedback I agree with everything

[autumn elk]

i also noticed something, did a hit from a crab always deplete 2 wedges? i swore it was always just one. (normal crabs not the red ones)

[quiet obsidian]

tgc releasing a well edited DOR video in news to distract from the oncoming dumpster fire season that’s gonna hit in a few days

[valid terrace]

at least it's nice to forget for a while though

[spark lance]

as usual it's probably not gonna be as bad as we think, but I'm also preparing for some struggle

[restive needle]

I’m sad about no cutscenes. This season has the backdrop to be one of the most visually impactful and to see they’re just seemingly not going to have any is really disappointing the longer I think about it. We still don’t even know what exactly they mean when they say there’s supposedly a second part of SoS and while they clearly can’t tell us a lot, the way they alluded to it and the words they used were really confusing

[inland pier]

Hey everybody. And the fact that I can't get into the shard's memories again is it a bug or is it intended like this?

[valid terrace]

couldn't have picked a better time to start making a fan season. with how super duper worried i am it'll help as a coping mechanism

[native kiln]

also im in eden rn, and they have to make it so that taking one wl that we lost increases the time for the other wls to be carried! especially cause crawling takes a lotta time and the wls move pretty far apart

[iron elbow]

all of the shards are wax today, no medi

[sinful bough]

Especially because some people just like to go solo. I'm a solo player not because I don't have people to play with, but because I like to play alone. I like to take things at my own pace and not spend energy trying to keep up a conversation. This season has definitely changed that for me.

[inland pier]

wth, I asked if I would be able to return to memories again through the questgiver or not? Is this a bug or an idea?

[autumn elk]

currently no but i presume we will be able to in the future

[maiden pond]

I'm a solo player while in Eden too unless I'm ubering my friends. But after this update, man. I feel way better about helping others, but I can't be of much use if I get myself injured either. I can hardly see once I'm extinguished, and opening the emote menu to get that recharge potion... oof.

[iron elbow]

certainly not today
when we'll have a red shard event, pick the option to relive the memory, do the shard, and then meditate there. it COULD work, but the outcome seems to be random

[inland pier]

I'll probably come back to the final memory...

[restive needle]

It feels like TGC has decided to strongly cater to players who enjoy group content while sort of leaving solo players behind in the dust. Which sucks. Considering all of beta plus the Eden changes they’ve pretty clearly decided this is the direction they want to go in.

[iron elbow]

you never know, worked for me at least

[valid terrace]

what if I don't wanna be disturbed doing what I'm doing???????

am I forced to be with someone at all times

[maiden pond]

I have an idea... perhaps make an icon appear with the amount of spells you have available at the top of the screen for the players who get extinguished? Like going through the emote menu to spell section takes more time. I'd rather there be options readily available for me when I'm down but not out. Good idea, right? (Instant recharge potions, fast recharge spells, dark Dragon repellent.)

[restive needle]

I don’t know yet Vol I’m talking more about Eden. I think you’ll still be fine doing basegame stuff as mainly alone but Eden and it seems like Shard events are going to be hell to do solo

Oh god I just realized something horrible.

Live won’t know that deep calling attracts the shard crabs.

[autumn elk]

im curious how server merges will affect shards, ngl id love to show up at a red shard and get instant eden candles with no. work . In beta this didnt happen but im sure in live it may be frequent

[valid terrace]

i don't want funny spunch bop filmmaking to be interrupted at any second and have the fun of that turn into a lot of stress

[iron elbow]

it's gonna take a while for live to figure out that shared memories attract crabs

[inland pier]

Hmmmm🤔

[valid terrace]

so no more making spirit skits?

[brisk nexus]

Grandma table is the worst place for shards

[restive needle]

No Vol. They’re talking about memory candles nearby Shard locations.

[sinful bough]

Wait really? I didn't notice that at all 😭

[restive needle]

Do we know conclusively what attracts the crabs? Like a list?

[valid terrace]

are you forced to light people while downed or does being near them count

[iron elbow]

tbf it's not that easy to notice or execute most of the time

[restive needle]

If somebody could tell me what it is that actually triggers the crabs to rush you I’d appreciate it. So far it looks like deep calling does but I’m not 100% sure on that?

[sinful bough]

Isn't it just deep calling and being near them in general that aggravates them?

[iron elbow]

they seem to work like normal crabs exept they dont fall on their backs, but rush instead

[valid terrace]

i have no idea if i want to even carry on anymore

[restive needle]

Imagine attempting to do a Shard with a group of people and not everybody knows about the deal with the crabs rushing you if you deep call. Imagine trying to explain that to people who you can’t talk to right away without investing pretty heavily (who even then might not speak your language because lol translator broke) using only emotes. Imagine stubborn people trying to just do it regardless of you frantically emoting at them. Imagine people intentionally deciding to troll a Shard group by deep calling near them. I doubt that’s going on in beta because everybody’s pretty much testing but I can def see it happening in live.

[lusty rapids]

They should've change the season name from Season of Shattering to Season of Suffering atp
/hj

[restive needle]

And the fact that according to the #news post about SoS, the shard eruptions are going to start of REALLY strong and frequent at the very beginning before slowing down. Hoooboy

[iron elbow]

I'm convinced the first shards of live are going to be cave and nest, and oh god how many wls are going to be lost at the cave

[restive needle]

Channels are gonna be flooded with ppl being like “i have a bug i think, deep calling isn’t working on crabs anymore”

[valid terrace]

probably gonna skip the first week or so

[restive needle]

honestly that’s a good idea. unless you want the cosmetics hahahahahahHAHAHA

[valid terrace]

considering skipping the ap but what if i regret it

[iron elbow]

I've had to constantly un-crawl someone while doing the cave, and they were a beta tester, they were aware of what's going on

imagine how it would feel to carry a server of 7 performance moths

[gilded parrot]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[opaque iris]

I keep feeling tempted by ap but also not at the same time

[restive needle]

I’m gonna have to literally tie an ice pack around my forehead to push over my eyes as long as I’m playing and trying to grind stuff for the cosmetics because I really love them but it seems like in order to get them I’m gonna have to be subjected to bright flashing red and massive amounts of bloom that might be made worse due to Switch poor optimization and just cause myself a ton of pain and suffering lol

And with how nobody’s quite sure how traveling spirits work for this season it’s not clear if we’ll have a chance to get them later on down the line like other cosmetics

[iron elbow]

have you seen the constant stutter the update added to basically any fast movement on the switch? this will be hell when shattering hits, I think you will need an uber

[zenith mist]

i hate how many ppl continue playing only bc theyre scared of missing out on cosmetics. i bet a lot of ppl wouldnt even get the ap or play during this season if it werent for like.. one ult or a single ap locked cosmetic

[glacial barn]

Definitely have decided I'm not getting ap for this season. Yeah, cosmetics are pretty... But don't think that is reason enough to get, at least not with what we've seen so far

[floral crystal]

Someone said memory candles can distract them

[restive needle]

Yeah. Honestly.

But putting down memory candles takes a lot of time right?

I feel bad for saying it but at this point I’m almost hoping that the backlash is super intense. Not because I want to have to put that amount of stress on the mods or devs in here because according to them the team that’s working on SoS the most isn’t even in the discord. But I just feel like TGC has it coming at this point to some degree if they’re going to make the game so hostile to a lot of people, newcomers and longtime players alike.

[lusty rapids]

Yeah, I'd say people keep playing Sky for more than a few months either just bc they have active friends, or to get all cosmetics that currently exist

[valid terrace]

I don't want to see such fury and I hate to say this but it's deserved

[hollow estuary]

this isnt exactly beta related but holy HECK the switch lag really is bad. i flew into forest to do dailies and the game kept freezing on frames while i was flying down the clouds??????? how did this pass nintendo's testing and review

[glacial barn]

Memory candles do take time to put down... I think the trick would be to place before an event starts.

As for what attracts the candied ghost pepper crabs... Breathing attracts them. Deep calling calls them like a beacon, so higher attraction rate than breathing. If you are knocked flat in your back, they don't seem to notice you as readily. But if you are crawling, they'll definitely see you.

Oh, and they are attracted to lost wl and props

[valid terrace]

do skykids breathe

[zenith mist]

idk, ive seen several incidents where tgc gets a lot of backlash for something and nothing really happens. honestly thats kind of just.. how it goes. tgc makes a decision everyone hates and nobody understands, we all get upset, and they just wait until people just cant keep being mad about it anymore

[sinful bough]

Honestly I kind of hope so too. The whole testing period for this season was basically people going, "what?? I don't know how I feel about this. Maybe there's a better way to go about this feature." And then getting nothing in return.

[iron elbow]

yep, any sudden fast movement will get you a freeze

[valid terrace]

is it worth playing? I'm obviously apparently now wrong for wanting to play this for doing silly little activities

[glacial barn]

I'm equating breathing to the skid fireness - kinda the same way that fire breathes?

[restive needle]

To be fair there HAVE been changes. I’m lead to believe that the first patch of SoS in beta was even worse, and that there are changes made because of beta tester’s input. But it almost makes it worse to me to know that even with all the changes made until now that SoS is still causing so much negative feedback as if nothings changed at all is incredible disheartening and doesn’t bode well for the future.

[valid terrace]

am i still gonna be able to put on silly plays

[floral crystal]

Why remove the Elder hair shield bug?

[iron elbow]

cause op

[opaque iris]

Yeah the elder hair shield was one of the main things people really liked and were hoping would stay (from what I’ve seen) even though it was a bug

[zenith mist]

it did feel like they were listening to feedback and like things were gonna change, but then that kind of just. stopped. its really sucked watching all of this go down. at first ppl were like "no this cant be the whole season, its clearly unfinished, maybe in the next quest theyll add a ton of lore and the season will be fixed", and then as time passed nothing happened. and now its in live

[lusty rapids]

The fact that this relaxing game have changed to be a potentially rage inducing one is beyond me

[dry jetty]

I fear for the new players that will come during shattering. If I was a brand new player going into this, I would quit because even as a veteran with experience, these new updates are frustrating. I can’t imagine what that would be like for a new player. I’ve submitted feedback but it feels like it’s falling on deaf ears.

I’m not excited for the new season and how live will respond to it

[valid terrace]

i'm too scared to find out myself so

do you think i'll still be able to enjoy doing silly things like filming and messing around and chilling and exploration anymore

[lament mica]

Same

[opaque iris]

Honestly probably isn’t because it’s locked behind 100%ing a constellation
And if it only protects against krill it’s fine

[zenith mist]

i will never forget how in the beginning ktjn responded to ppl saying shattering feels unfinished like "whoa the season feels incomplete in BETA??? whaaaat????" and then the season never got any substantial changes to it that made it feel less unfinished lol

[slate shuttle]

I thought I’d put this here since it’s a better place but as someone who’s been playing live since right before season of enchantment and has been on and off beta testing since season of prophecy I’ve never been more frustrated with a season before this one

[restive needle]

And then just yesterday a few devs made allusions to there being actual more seasonal content not yet seen in beta but obviously it’s not like they know everything so they couldn’t really say much. I still don’t even know if they technically confirmed it or not just because of the wording used. Kinda wanna screenshot the posts and see what people think

[lament mica]

Or a magical spoiler for the next season shows up and people forget all about it

[valid terrace]

please help me I need advice
I beg I can still enjoy things

[lusty rapids]

Like, at first it was just 'wow cool mobile game yumyum' to 'krills are rlly scary' to 'What in the honk is this season '

[zenith mist]

i mean i asked if this is pretty much it for the season and sagomay just alluded to 1.18.5 having a lot of new stuff. but what about until then?? do we just have to deal with a boring season for the first half??

[floral crystal]

If there's a second half coming, I hope it'll be better. But wdk what the later half will entail so it's hard to say.

[iron elbow]

speeking of 0.18.0 in general, I was convinced the new visual update to the props is just a proof of concept. Like,
"haha, funny model, we'll probably get something decent in the next major update, can't even complain about missing textures on some props, cause that's clearly a wip"

anf then it gets to live as it is

[zenith mist]

vol the season sucks but i swear on my life it is not so bad that you need reassurance that the world is not collapsing around you lol

[sinful bough]

This season was supposed to be different from others but it's just more fetch quests except with higher risks and basically no story to make up for it

[shadow stratus]

The first half of the season as how it is in live will probably last for 25 to 35 days

[lament mica]

This 💔
Sky was a place I went to relax. Now I need to go to Sky at a specific time to do dailies during a specific time frame where I’m gonna be hit by invincible creatures. It’s also better if I don’t react and lay there until they calm down. Huh this sounds like my past abusive relationship for some reason

[static path]

I don't understand what is going to change, can someone tell me where to see general information about the new season?

[iron elbow]

the patch notes are in the #news

[valid terrace]

i just
i am repeating myself but i don't want to have to time everything i love doing

[slate shuttle]

Don’t get me wrong I really like the concept of this season! I’ve been itching for something like this for ages but I don’t think I should be struggling with the shards in forgotten ark with just me and one other player

[hasty vessel]

#beta-discussion message

I can’t tell if there is a second half of if they’re just trolling, again lack of communication leaves us all confused and questioning the intentions of the devs, are the just riling us up?

[static path]

Ty ;u;

[iron elbow]

believing in second half cause I can't accept that's the current one is all it has to offer

[restive needle]

Okay I went back to the most recent dev discussion. Ash did then say this later on which is the clearest we’ve gotten: #beta-discussion message

[sinful bough]

I really hope it's not a troll. I feel like it's pretty obvious by now that not many beta testers were crazy happy about this season, but i also don't understand why, introduce a season like this by making us clean up plants and have to summersault around the whole place just to avoid the red crabs?

[teal jackal]

Hey I'm not a beta tester but i didn't know how bad the crawl was i thought you guys were exaggerating, it's the worse thing I've seen like i just lost 4 WL to a crab ._.

[lament mica]

Do you actively need help right now? Like, are you having a panic attack? If yes DM me and I can help 😊

[zenith mist]

i have no idea how to link messages but sagomay said in a response to me that "there will be more season-related stuff in testing for 0.18.5"

[lusty rapids]

I'll try to be as neutral as possible for this season bc it's still not in it's full form yet (i think) but God this beta chat is really making me feel tipped off

[spark lance]

It’s going to be at grandmas table????

[restive needle]

TLDR: according to Ash who isn’t actually very deeply related to Shattering (so please don’t anybody try and bug them) there SHOULD be “more season+other related stuff incoming” in 18.5 I don’t think that was a troll, the reason people were confused about a troll was because of somebody joking about how one of the devs liked to pretend to type in beta sometimes to troll the people from Live who camped out in the channel but didn’t speak. I think.

[valid terrace]

i doubt it's that. i'm so panicky about this though idk what i'm feeling
there is so much dread
i don't want to lose the ability to do everything i love doing in this game freely that ryins it for me i

[sinful bough]

I hope they plan to add more stuff to this season and I hope that it's enough to make up for what it is right now which is boring and frustrating.

[maiden pond]

I think I speak for everyone when I say we're all upset, confused, sad, or mad. It's a mix of emotions. (Bot ate my last message... hope it doesn't eat this one, too.)

[restive needle]

Vol I think you should hop off the discord for now to avoid stressing yourself out too much. We won’t truly know what the content is like and how it feels to play until it hits live in 12 days

[zenith mist]

if shattering is really making you feel this way i think you need to like......step away from the game

[lament mica]

I feel you. I’m asking because I’ve had a few moments of panic about this. I’ve a hyperfixation on Sky so things like these hurt

[chilly wigeon]

I don't think sky is gonna end because of one bad season

[valid terrace]

i wanna do only dailies for a good while so yeah i am stepping back
this has gone so horribly wrong and i don't wanna watch this collaps

yeah i shouldn't be here

[lament mica]

The thing is, this isn’t just a game. It’s a community. It’s where I can meet my closest friends who have been there for the past 2-going on-3 years.

[iron elbow]

the only positive thoughts I've heard so far were either about cosmetics or quest's dioramas.
everything else? well, it's complicated

[valid terrace]

true
just concerned about lasting damage

[iron elbow]

this next collab season better SLAP after everything we've been through

[maiden pond]

To me it feels like everything got so buffed up that hurts you in Eden, that even the crabs can probably one shot you and get you crawling.

[valid terrace]

i hate collabs though i'm utterly screwed
please be good

[zenith mist]

i dont mean to sound rude but if it really makes people have panic attacks or seriously makes them upset, or act like their entire world revolves around sky and their emotional state completely depends on sky (which i have seen), i think thats a point where you need to say yeah, it is just a game

[spark lance]

Ah yes, the redemption arc but we have plenty of events to get everyone out of that headspace like Days Of Summer and Days Of Mischief

[valid terrace]

my mental state does not depend on this dw

[opaque cipher]

@maiden pond do you know what sleep is? I always see you on

[hasty vessel]

But there will be lasting effects from shattering, the explosions have been said to continue once the season has passed, albeit slower than in beta. Some of our favourite most tranquil areas have turned into the complete opposite, as vol said, there will be a lasting impact that no one really wants to experience

[iron elbow]

oh my god days of mischief
the iap galore

[floral crystal]

Yeahh
Speaking from experience (I have GAD and ptsd) this is exactly why you should never have only one source of comfort and security.

[chilly wigeon]

You know you can still enjoy areas they are just redder

[static path]

Season of war ...

[maiden pond]

I sleep, yeah. I sometimes will make people aware I'm going to sleep in general chat. Last night I did, search from me and the word "hooligans". You'll find it.

[valid terrace]

and I don't want this to permanently affect people simply wanting to do calm activities or relax somewhere such as myself; uprooting the possibility to do that consistently

@chilly wigeon yes but you Still have to be conscious of timings

[spark lance]

With how busy people actually are irl, some would intentionally have to witness the shard events but with all the other timed events starting to collapse into each other. Seems like the probability just got a little higher

[zenith mist]

i hyperfixated on sky so hard i injured my wrists from grinding during the Sword Pants era, so i really do get it 😔 at the end of the day sky is just a video game and its important to keep that in mind when you get too. lost in the candle sauce if you will

[valid terrace]

yes!!! it could unfortunately happen during people's little time!!!!!!!

[sinful bough]

It's a shame because these shards do offer an alternative for those who don't have the time to fully cr or go through eden and just need a quick source of wax/ac, but a lot of people don't seem to appreciate the affects it has on the environment.

[orchid nexus]

please remember, all: this is not a therapy space, and not everyone here is equipped to handle discussion about personal emotional/behavioral problems. if anything is a source of pain for you, it's a sign for you to take care of yourselves first

[cinder chasm]

I’m nervous about this season too but I think it’s hard to tell until we actually get to play it out. I found the new update yesterday to be less bad than I expected it to be from descriptions in beta

[spark lance]

Unfortunately, the playerbase needs to accept when TGC and their own vision for the game clashes. At the end of the day, they have a final say in how things go

[valid terrace]

yeah I am The worst catastrophiser I know
it never ends up as bad as I think

[lament mica]

Sky provides two very unique things. One is being able to do friend actions (which you have to ask for permission/allow for them to happen). The other is/was the lack of violence. These are what make Sky special and not just a game for me. It’s my community of friends I’ve spent hours with everyday for nearly 3 years.

And I’ve said this before, if you (or anyone) knows of a game where I can play an instrument, enjoy the sound of birds and rain, chat with people from all around the world, and hug my friends then please let me know.

[restive needle]

Honestly at this point it feels like with still so much negative feedback that beta testers have given compaired to the changes that were made based off of it, which isn’t none at all of course, it seems like beta tester’s opinions aren’t wanted anymore on the beginning of SoS and that no further changes are going to be made considering it’s in Live by now and at this point TGC is just waiting for how live is gonna take it. That may be unnessecarily pessimistic of me but it really feels like that. They HAVE made a lot of changes based on beta feedback but still so many major points of the experience that people have trouble with and are dreading haven’t changed means they’re likely just set on a course and not willing to deviate.

[zenith mist]

i mean a lot of games tend to have like birds and stuff idk

[hasty vessel]

Some of y’all really aren’t listening… 🥱 what is so “hyperfixated” about playing a game to chill out and unwind? I’d argue that some of the MOST tranquil areas in the game have been destroyed by the shattering explosions. The top of hermit mountain, the sunny area in forest, the ark… there’s nothing wrong with being upset about how what these areas once offered has been completely ruined by the shattering events.

[trim spade]

They don’t happen there daily though

[valid terrace]

I don't want me simply wanting to see the sunset be completely trashed and lose 8 wings out of nowhere just because I happened to be somewhere I wanted to for too long

I do not want to be restricted in this

[iron elbow]

and not all people log in daily either

[cinder chasm]

Enchantment is my favorite season too so I get that ark is a nice spot to hang out in but I’m guessing that the shards will be adjusted for live to be more rare and we can always give feedback if it is too disruptive.

[restive needle]

Mychol is right in the fact that hyperfixations on games can be detrimental to one’s mental health and there def is a difference between healthily consuming whatever you’re hyperfixating and being super badly influenced by it. It’s a balancing act. - source, adhd and autistic about video games

[lament mica]

And this is the image TGC made for themselves right. “Together, apart” a place to relax with beautiful scenery. A unique game with no competitiveness or violence. That’s been how Sky marketed itself

[maiden pond]

"Lack of violence".

Krills, crabs, Eden rocks and crystals: "Am I a joke to you?"

[zenith mist]

i mean the shard events arent going to be there forever, theyre only for a short period of time and on certain days. its not like the areas getting destroyed forever or something INB4 SOMEONE SAYS SHARD EVENTS ARE PERMANENT I know

[orchid nexus]

And to take my comment further, unloading or venting personal fears here can lead to a lot of conflict and confusion. Sky may be just a game, but your emotions are not. If you don't have IRL close friends or family who can listen, who know your boundaries and your needs, there is absolutely nothing wrong with talking to professionals about what's going on in your world, even the "just a game" parts of your world.

I do expect people to express their likes and dislikes, but we can't host venting of unhealthy behaviors. This is not something any moderator wants to make judgments about, so anyone feeling unduly stressed about the game, please look for reasonable boundaries to what you share and how you express it here

[floral crystal]

YES
PEOPLE
GET OTHER MEANS OF COMFORT
YOU CANNOT MENTALLY SURVIVE ON JUST ONE.

[valid terrace]

the difference is these being concentrated versus shard stuff being able to be anywhere

[thin turtle]

Question? I’m new to the server but been on sky since season 4.. um how does a person get beta?

[viscid sundial]

#beta-faq

[trim spade]

The mountain explodes right before a shard falls, it’s really hard to miss and super easy to avoid, idk what are y’all on about

[zenith mist]

that is the fastest #beta-faq i have ever seen

[valid terrace]

you have to wait for invite waves. please read #beta-faq for more information!

[static path]

the game will go from being of tranquility to survival 😭

[viscid sundial]

It's a reflex at this point

[valid terrace]

you have the beta faq world record speedrun 🏆

[spark lance]

I'm sorry but it would be funny if someone got hit by a shard while chatting and the community asked "so the eruption, screen shaking and the color change didn't warn you?"

[trim spade]

Be sure to read #beta-faq very carefully

[restive needle]

At the same time there’s no reason to be so harsh on people who do heavily attach their well-being to hyperfixations like video games. It’s not always something that can be fully controlled nor can it be really predicted once it’s happening. I’ve had issues where I don’t realize just how much I’ve attached my mental stability onto something like a game until something happens that disrupts my perception of it and sends me into a really bad mental spiral. So while encouraging people to have boundaries and take breaks and that it is, after all, just a game is fine, doing it in a harsh way or disregarding their feelings is really unhelpful and just makes things worse. Coming from a place of being on both sides of this a few times over my life.

[trim spade]

I’m sure there are people that still get hit even after the freaking mountain explodes 🤣

[spark lance]

I thought of something similar lol, since I usually hang out and mess around with strangers in the social area in prairie, I thought it'd be funny if eden just explodes in the middle of us spamming emotes

[restive needle]

Not trying to suggest you specifically we being harsh Void I was just using the example

[valid terrace]

this happened with me not long ago regarding the off-season qg - have since gotten better dealing with the situation but the damage at the time still happened. I feel you very much

[slate shuttle]

I’ve been trying to figure what to say without putting too much emotion into it but really all I can say is, I really do hope the devs are actually looking into what everyone is saying. But once the season is out in live and everyone is giving the same feedback as we are it’s really on them (I hope all of that makes sense my brain is a bit fuzzy rn)

[trim spade]

I think there should still be a reasonable balance between individual mental health needs which aren’t necessarily shared among many people and how this game is perceived by the general public

[spark lance]

Well they'd never forget it

[floral crystal]

Coming from someone who's had full blown breakdowns, I get hyperfixating, but it's unhealthy and doesn't help as much as one may think., especially if you'll get into such a spell over it. Not to mention the hyperfixating on the negative aspects that will crop up eventually.

[orchid nexus]

a few more examples above of why I suggest moving off the topic of mental health and how it relates to gaming. it's a good topic and deserves real thought; everyone experiences things differently, and no point of view matters less than another because to each of us it's all we have. however, there will always be people who don't understand each other's perspectives, and on the topic of mental health this can lead to inadvertently harmful exchanges and misunderstandings. This space is still not best suited for the discussion, and we should all be cautious of superimposing our own feelings on other people

[cinder chasm]

It would be cool if the crystals stopped producing atmospheric effects after you complete them/ maybe show it gray so you know where it is if someone else needs help but it becomes less obvious afterwards. I kinda wish collected wax had an option to show as gray too so that people could help their friends find burned plants after you got them.

[gilded parrot]

Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live! Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well

[floral crystal]

Yall need to get yourselves comfort blankets. Mines got sparkly stars on it.

[sterile cobalt]

does the eruption still launch you because i loved that

[valid terrace]

like. video making is my favourite hobby in-game. if that gets screwed over I will be so despaired

“find something else to do” I can’t just stop it

[trim spade]

Oh that’s a really good idea! I struggle with the intense red color of the shards, and graying them out after completion will make my life a whole lot easier! Please submit to feedback!

[orchid nexus]

I have an old worn out plush duck with its head handing by mere threads and one foot missing.... in beta because that's definitely on-topic

[restive needle]

The red is so eyestraining. Just watching the videos of it makes me start getting a headache.

[valid terrace]

well not really needing to stop but needing to sacrifice a lot of quality for the sake of not running into the event would make me very sad as I pour so much love into these and enjoy making them with my frens so much

[trim spade]

Lmao I think it only launches you in the tlp windy area

[sterile cobalt]

i will go there every time

[spark lance]

I have something similar but its a beagle dog. When I was little I used to pull out it's fur (a weird habit of mine) and now its all floppy and basically just fabric in a shape of a dog

[trim spade]

I get nausea that gets progressively worse the longer I stare

[viscid sundial]

Shards will likely not be every day or in every realm, so I don't think you'll have to worry that much about it disrupting your video making. I suggest you wait till it comes to live to see how it actually impacts your schedule

[valid terrace]

yeah
i’m in catastrophising mode

deeeeep breaths

[restive needle]

fr if none of the visuals of the shard events get less intense I’m gonna be sending my the bill for the super-migraines-painkillers I need when it gets bad /j

[lament mica]

Thanks for your concern. I’ve been taking care of myself as well as I can 😊

You know how we are always asked for feedback about “how this season feels”?

This is me saying how this season makes me feel. I makes me feel like I have lost a place where I can chill and enjoy hanging out with my friends.

Sky marketed itself as being a relaxing game that was going against all other games out there by not being violent or competitive. This attracts certain populations of people for whom most games cannot be enjoyed precisely because they are violent and competitive.

People with mental health issues and/or neurodiversity are especially rich in this population. And this population is being greatly affected by these changes.

So the few of us that are out here saying that “this is triggering because it reminds me of my life experiences” aren’t saying this to get support for those issues.

I’m saying this because I’m a human being whose life has had many traumatic moments. I chose to play Sky because it was a safe game. Season of Shattering is destroying that. This isn’t the game I started playing, it’s the type of game I was avoiding by playing Sky

[viscid sundial]

You should take a break from this chat and the topic as a whole

[restive needle]

Butterfly if you copy and paste exactly that into #beta-feedback I think it would be very helpful

[wispy marlin]

I'm really just hoping that FPS and brightness is taken into account with this season, I haven't seen anything myself but I'm searching now

[cinder chasm]

I feel like people who are experiencing visual glitches and getting issues could use seeing-eye people-ubers to guide them through areas while they look away until the glitch is fixed

[valid terrace]

I feel everything about this (except being reminded of trauma. I’m so so sorry about that I really wish I could help how you feel)

[restive needle]

god that’s honestly such a depressing thought even if it is necessary. literally can’t look at the game so i need a service uber lmao

[hollow estuary]

get your own pet service chibi

[floral crystal]

Why not expand the subjects of the videos? Instead of just calm and relaxing , why not also have fun and zany videos too? Like running through glitches, or memeing about? It doesn't all have to be doom and gloom.

[lament mica]

I have sent this to feedback many and many times 😅

[orchid nexus]

this is a good example of not venting, but of stating your feelings and giving solid rationale

[valid terrace]

my videos are pretty much mostly wacky - they’re posted in #sky-memes

mainly consist of reenacting and recontextualising scenes from things such as Spongebob
they’re so fun

[restive needle]

“TGC can we please lessen the intensity of the lights I know there’s the fact that the code of the game makes that hard but there’s gotta be someth—“

TGC: maybe just try having friends to drag you through it idk lol

[slim kayak]

that is actually what a few of my friends do. i have a few friends who on some days, want to play but for one reason or another they cannot stare at their screen for long periods of time. so we get an uber and then talk through discord. its nice to have a work around, but having a game mechanic that will probably make it even harder for my friends to play on their own is disappointing.

[cinder chasm]

I tried an Uber in live group yesterday and it went well. I think it would be possible to communicate with honks if you ever find that (sadly ) necessary it could work until they fix things

[lament mica]

I do that for my partner with the turtle event. When it’s xx:59 they look away and they look back when the lighting has normalized

[lament mica]

Can I DM you?

I wanted to understand how this is different from what I wrote before but I don’t want to bore other people with it. I want to learn so I can voice it better next time because I have sent this multiple times as feedback

[orchid nexus]

I was responding to a conversation that seemed difficult, not an individual, and I didn't intend my reply to be a comparison to what you said before

[waxen garden]

helloo sorry for changing the topic but i had a question, are the season of shattering prices and whats gonna be f2p and p2p confirmed or might it change?

[viscid sundial]

They'll only be confirmed when they come to live

[lament mica]

That’s not exactly what I meant sorry. I genuinely would like to understand what make this a solid rationale vs. what wouldn’t be one.

Some social cues are not easy for me to pick up on and this topic is particularly hard for me. So I’d like to understand so I can make a mental model of how to phrase things next time

[orchid nexus]

I can try to explain in DM

[trim spade]

I look away from the screen often in sky ever since shattering. It made me 100x more photosensitive

[maiden pond]

This is probably one of the most passionate chats about Sky, mostly because it's beta and well, people are devoting their time for Sky to be better and better, and I like that. But man, since this season was introduced, it's been hard to peek in here, even if I gather the courage to do so. I know I can just not look here, but this chat is probably the most passionate about Sky, just like I am. I may not be a beta tester and all but I've been following everything I possibly can, literally writing novels of ideas and feedback on my own time, and mixing them with my own thoughts as a live player and sending the more crucial things to feedback. I get pretty sad when I hear beta testers say they feel overwhelmed and/or not being heard with their feedback, I try my best to hold out hope that the devs are actively listening. I still do, and I still trust TGC, even now. I hope for the sake of everyone here who does feel frustrated that the devs do have something planned, and with the info we've been given, I have nothing but hope for all of us. I believe.

[trim spade]

The devs do listen! It’s just takes them a while to change things, so we come here and complain when we’re impatient lol. The devs have changed a whole lot thanks to our feedback!

[spark lance]

Is it rlly that bad? I have epilepsy but it isn’t triggered by flashing lights… I think

[trim spade]

The shards used to be glitchy and were flashing like crazy. That bothered me. Now they’re just an intense red color that hurts my eyes and others reported feeling various negative effects from it. You may not have any if you’re not sensitive to intense bright light

[spark lance]

Ahh I see okay. So don’t play this season in the dark and have your screen brightness turned 100% 😂

[spark lance]

this is probably one of the most unhelpful things anyone would ever say in this server but this isn't the end of sky and I'm sure people will find creative ways to get around these kinds of things that limits players. One of the things that I really enjoy about the sky community is that people find so many glitches and other ways to do things and make something out of it Wether it be memes or glitches or other stuff. This community is so creative in ways people can enjoy sky. I'm confident people can and will be able to find ways around this (maybe I just grew up optimistic and dumb idk)
well the flashing might be another story

[maiden pond]

Yeah, I know. I'm just referring to those who say they don't feel like they're being heard.

[trim spade]

I turn the brightness way down lol

[trim spade]

That’s typical here lol because it takes a while to implement changes. I think the community became really upset over the iap instruments recently, and it hasn’t calmed down yet since those days. So every new minor grievance brings back the feelings of frustration

[viscid sundial]

This isn't unhelpful at all, too many people are acting like one bad season will be the death of Sky and it's easy to fall into that pessimism. You sharing your optimism is appreciated

[orchid nexus]

accessibility is a real problem, so for serious: if you are experiencing something in Sky that effects you in a medically significant way, that's valuable information to share in #beta-feedback

[trim spade]

Yep I did but maybe I should post again in the feedback about this

[trim spade]

Agreed 100%

[orchid nexus]

repeating feedback isn't necessary unless you have new information to add. I know it feels like a void that you just shout into, but I also know that feedback is taken, reviewed, sorted, prioritized, and shared through the team. the urgency of our own feelings sometimes isn't in scale with the glacial pace of software development

[trim spade]

“Glacial pace” people often forget how long it takes to change things in games. That’s 3D animation we’re talking about

[wispy marlin]

Not a beta player but did check out how some of the graphics looked and just wanted to give a piece of my mind (which has probably already been repeated... oh well). I'll copy and paste to feedback if y'all don't have anything more to add on or comment

Lessening the red atmosphere-effect of an area getting shards would be extremely helpful, and also making the transition from normal to red a bit slower for photo-sensitivity and stuff like that. Lessening the brightness of the red shards would be good too. The amount of dark plants needed to burn are good for the season itself, but perhaps make it less for after the season since we gotta remember the fact that moths and solo players exist . Increasing crawling speed would be good too!

[restive needle]

I really hope they fix the strobe lighting on Switch in Eden because the migraine i got from that was hellish last night

I think I sent the video again in live feedback this morning. Hope I don’t get banned for spamming it oops

[trim spade]

Yep that’s the gist of what everyone wants at the minimum

[valid terrace]

sorry for getting particularly panicky earlier. this game means a lot to me and I’m very worried of this potentially cutting into the little things I enjoy seeing and doing the most of all that make up the majority of my enjoyment and only imposing a stressful schedule on something I’m happy isn’t always with one

[rigid pumice]

Ayo I've been gone for about half a year but beta testing again once again, but I'm kind of confused after talking to the Void of Shattering... what's the deal with this season? What am I supposed to be doing?

[spark lance]

It's completely fine, your reason to be upset is completely understandable. it happens and what matters is that you're (hopefully) doing better now. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and its fine to express how you feel This just proves how much impact and significance a game can have on an individual and while every change in a game might not be something that we like, the game still has potential to change.

[carmine thorn]

If someone is saying the lighting is too intense, why suggest putting brightness at 100%?

[astral trellis]

even just confirmation from the devs that they will fix stuff would be monumental but #beta-known-issues is usually dry

and of course actions speak louder than words (which i think we should all remember now that tgc is going downhill imo)

[spark lance]

I’m saying DONT do that lol

[carmine thorn]

I do apologize, but the way your sentence is worded suggests to keep your brightness that high. It might be good to add a don't in the second part of your sentence.

[rigid pumice]

#beta-screenshots-videos message. Me scrolling for info rn

[ashen tusk]

Sorry I'm late to the discussion, but if this is in relation to any of the accessibility concerns for players with flashing/light sensitivities, etc. then Ash did say the other day that in their opinion it's important for us to keep feeding back these issues and they wouldn't consider it spam for such an important matter. So maybe if you mentioned issues in feedback about this before and you wanted to further add to and flag continuous issues again I think it should be okay to do this as long as it's not like a daily "flashing lights bad" kinda thing?
Having said that, Alex boss so Alex knows best about any spamming issues that happen in feedback.

My original reason for dropping into beta again was to look for the dootdoot Sago said would be coming

[opaque iris]

I just lost a wl from a normal crab searching for lost wl because I had no flaps and got hit
Crawling is so slow

[maiden pond]

@ashen tusk here you go. Ping off obviously for Sagomay.

[shadow stratus]

I hope we get in this week still, im interested to see what are they doing

[ashen tusk]

Me showing up everyday in search of a doot since reading this and knowing that's what Sagomay knew would happen but still showing up like the doot fool I am

[maiden pond]

I mean, you should know Sagomay likes to mess around too by trolling people camping #beta-announcements. They did say they do that, though I don't know how often they do it, they stated they did, in fact, just press the space bar continously to make it look like they were typing.

[orchid nexus]

I'm not boss, and mostly I meant spamming feedback won't give anyone an advantage when it comes to being heard. It's definitely important to share feedback about persistent issues especially after a new build

[ashen tusk]

You mean chaotically honking into the void doesn't immediately implement change

Also apologies I meant the boss thing in a jokey manner because winged mod

@maiden pond Sagomay is personified

[kindred fossil]

Answering from #beta-screenshots-videos
@spark lance

I light up whoever appears on my constellation wether they’ll return or not doesn’t matter much, the additional income comes from random heart gifts & meditation quests. They’re only piling up just because I’ve got nothing left to spend them on. Sorry this is not helpful, I’m not a dedicated heart farmer

[spark lance]

what does wafo mean

[kindred fossil]

Wait and find out!

[wary star]

i dont get any hearts because all my friends are tired veterans who don't like playing sky anymore because it's gotten so boring there's no point (i'm also one)

[ashen tusk]

WAFFLES! wait and find out

[orchid nexus]

No problem. That role only makes me the boss of Skybot, not anyone else here!

[wary star]

it's the same thing straight, man

get on, do dailies, do season quest if there is one, get off. that's it

[spark lance]

ah i just woke up and im reading up to catch up but also all over the place, so this new build… when is it?

[ashen tusk]

It can be frustrating when this happens, it doesn't help with burnout either when you're just hopping on sky to essentially do your candle chores, but maybe you could befriend some shattering moths and show them the sky ropes to give yourself something new to do and meet more people

[viscid sundial]

We don't know when new builds come out

[ashen tusk]

For beta? We have no confirmation of when we'll be getting a new build, but the live one is obviously out now so all our suffering here shall be found there too, yay

[spark lance]

i read something from sagomay about testing later on? and yeah i was super uh… taken back with the update in live 😂 what a mess

[ashen tusk]

Mhm Sagomay told us we'll be getting the 18.5 update anytime after yesterday
So that narrows it down to anytime now and into the future

[viscid sundial]

Sagomay purposefully put it quite vaguely because we don't have set dates for when builds come out, you'll have to wait and find out

[ashen tusk]

I'll make a whole stack of wafos for us, I feel rather hungry for new beta content 🧇

[spark lance]

Ahi I see ok. It’s np! It helps!

[sudden ginkgo]

not a beta tester but the date shattering comes to live is probably the best timing ever for me

mainly due to the fact that it comes on my birthday, the 11th, so i see this as an absolute win (excuse my excited self pls i'm just really happy)

[trim spade]

With that sweet syrup of patience

There are 2 kinds of vets: those that have 1000s of friends and get 30 hearts per day from lighting ppl, vs those whose entire constellation quit sky and they hardly get any daily light from them. There is no in between

[carmine thorn]

Yep, My GF and I are the last few in our constellation still playing. The only way we get hearts is by daily trades between each other.

[spark lance]

With thousands of friends, would you not have to scroll thru so many constellations to find one to tp to them or something?

[analog finch]

I still think they are releasing it way too early

[frigid gazelle]

so wait
the shard events are pernament?
do they always give ascended wax or is it randomized?

[carmine thorn]

Red shards give AC. Black shards give regular wax. At least that's how it is in beta. Live might be different. Edit: black shards do not count towards quest completion in beta.

[twin lintel]

can we talk a bit about the elder hairs invincibility glitch that happened a while ago? like if tgc was testing a feature like that, then what was it gonna be added to?

[carmine thorn]

All we were told was that it appearing was a bug. It could have been a scrapped feature that never went into public builds.
Edit: Heck, for all we know, it could have been scrapped before live even launched

[trim spade]

It could have been a light awaits feature that never made it and was never meant to see the light of day 🤣🤣🤣

[rugged kayak]

from what i've heard yeah it's a scrapped idea from light awaits

[trim spade]

Bruh

[rugged kayak]

i personally don't like the idea of a shield being locked behind specific hairstyles that take ages to get, though. if they DO bring that shield idea back i want it on a back prop maybe or something

[trim spade]

My bf got gw elder hair in beta after 2 months

[rugged kayak]

i am a 3-years vet and get 2 hearts every day bc i make lots of friends x'd

[trim spade]

I think the shield is an OP item that shouldn’t be easily available. It’ll shift the balance in the game. I think it should be an ult or an elder item

I’m a 2 year vet and I get 4 hearts per day from lighting friends. My other vet friends get between 4 and 40 hearts

[restive needle]

Do y’all think that the next beta update will hit before SoS starts in live?

[trim spade]

What a fitting abbreviation 🤣🤣

[spark lance]

40 hearts from lighting frnds?
50 heart bits make one whole heart so 2000 friends???

i'm out

[restive needle]

I like it cus then that makes 🆘 the official emoji of the season

[alpine field]

SoS as in “Mayday! Mayday! Crabs are attacking!”

[rugged kayak]

i wanna say yes just because i Want it though lol. but yeah we won't know until it actually happens haha

[trim spade]

4000 friends, and it takes them 3 hours

[spark lance]

that's dedication
i have around 400-500 and somedays i give up.
I have so many active frnds who disappeared from my constellation because both sides couldn't cope up with lighting everyday due to timezone difference.

[spark lance]

Wait what do you mean by shield

[trim spade]

Elder hair used to have a shield against attacks from krill or crabs for a few days in beta

[rugged kayak]

back during light awaits there was a sheild mechanic that would allow you to take 1 hit from a krill i think?? and that was in beta for a little bit recently, despite being a scrapped idea

[spark lance]

YOOOOOOOO I’m assuming tho that doesn’t work in live huh

[shadow stratus]

Pretty sure the light awaits never had such thing, it was just a shield icon, the thing that went to beta was a different thing ( i might be wrong)

[trim spade]

I just light twice a day after waking up and before bed, and it covers all time zones

[trim spade]

That bug was quickly squashed in beta lol

[shadow stratus]

It lived for less than a week

[alpine field]

Yet its legacy lived on for so long it’s actually impressive lol

[terse yarrow]

Ah yes,me with 200 friends : light friend once a week

[vapid cypress]

im excited for the krill cape

[sonic stone]

I got questions! Does darkness descend everywhere?!
Will there be only darkness in a certain area each day?! And does it descend just once or

[elder inlet]

for now in beta,it falls down following realm rotations,starting from prairie and so on ,shards fall only in certain area, sometimes one place sometimes two the timing isnt confirmed for live yet but it falls down every 30 min in beta for testing

[sonic stone]

So . Some areas are safe?
And sorry if I misunderstand.
So let's say it may fall once in prairie or twice and in that time the other realms aren't affected?
Until the next hit of darkness?

[elder inlet]

until the next day,yes its a one realm per day thing

[sonic stone]

Thank you! 🥺Yay. I thought it was all over. That helps a little bit

[elder inlet]

no worries shards are pretty easy to avoid altogether but quests do depend on them so might have to take not of that

[sonic stone]

This season.. seems kinda tiring.
I may just get some cosmetics then take a break.

[elder inlet]

oof it does lack the feel to be hyped all throughout- well some rest wouldnt hurt so

[gilded parrot]

Oh my starry elders!

[frank slate]

What does the krill repellant spell look like when used? I’ve actually never used one. Could it be that somehow that a bug with the Elder hairs simply activated the spell?

[trim spade]

No they looked different. There was an actual shield animation with the bugged elder shield. Krill repellant doesn’t have a shield

[frank slate]

Ah okay, that’s what I was wondering. I had seen video of the Elder hair bug. Thanks for the reply.

[shut coral]

The name of this season's guide is "The Void of Shattering" in English, but it means "The Void of Shattering Darkness" in Japanese. I have a question. The Japanese name may be wrong because its shining crystal restores the child's energy and is the "brightness aspect". Wouldn't it be confusing if you named it "darkness"?

[burnt jolt]

Why only one pant next season?

[chilly wigeon]

That's just how it is

[burnt jolt]

Uhmm it's not even that good i wanted a dark outfit that fits with the dark theme

[lilac epoch]

Prophecy had one pants cosmetic too. How the decision is made regarding number of cosmetics isn't something beta players know 😅

[chilly wigeon]

I like it we got a light dress that fits with the light theme

[lilac epoch]

The light robe is okay, going barefoot isn't my style though rofl

[vagrant fable]

Well, a lot of us have been asking for dark pants, but it's a matter of wether the devs will abide or not

[trim spade]

The rainbow pants are sorta dark

[vagrant fable]

Also yo, where them spicy pop rocks at today?

Rainbow pants are dark but that's still not really what we want, we want krill pants

[stable sun]

Can anyone disclose to me some information that i need for eden?

I need to find out what you can and cannot do in Eden. ( I need to know what feature have been disabled and enabled, added removed etc, if there is a new layout of the placement of objects in the Eden Map beyond the point of no return etc

(Also this question is for the live version but i was told in sky gen chat of the live game area to come here and ask beta testers because they have tested the final product just before release)

[burnt jolt]

I mean I'm not hating on the pants its okay But season of performance definitely had better ones

This one has better capes tho really like it

[vagrant fable]

There have been a lot of layout changes, you can place props to protect yourself from the rain a bit, but they'll be knocked down after a while, you can still use instant recharge potions tho

[lilac epoch]

The rock rain is no longer constant in the final room and there are additional lanterns farther out into the map.

[chilly wigeon]

I'm excited to get this seasons capes on my live acc I really want the ultimate ones

[stable sun]

So it rains in different patterns as showers now instead of constant rainfall? I have gotten up to the Hill in Eden before and went over the hill, where the last 8 statues are located to be lit and saved.

[burnt jolt]

Which cape from next season are you guys favourite? Mine krill

[chilly wigeon]

I like the ultimate manta cape

[vagrant fable]

Dark plant, looks really cool to me

[edgy eagle]

The krill ulti cape

[languid bear]

Ult manta cape!

[oak remnant]

I like jelly fish cape

[stable sun]

Sorry I forgot to ask something else, so when you mean final room what is considrered the final room? I dont know where the borders are for the final room. Can you please kindly tell me from what point to start to end the final room is ?

[chilly wigeon]

I also like the new hairs

[vagrant fable]

Folks, where the shards at today?

[lilac epoch]

Yes the rock rain in the final room now happens at intervals but the Eden map itself hasn't changed that drastically. There are just new lanterns further in, the rock rain is not constant and some additional rocks to hide behind have been added. There's also one lantern before the pipe/krill area. Some props provide temporary shelter and recharge potions still function the same way. If you take substantial damage (i.e. more than 3/4 of your light gone) you'll end up crawling.

Edit: the final room is the one closest to the red diamond, where the rock rain used to be constant.

[stable sun]

Very imformative thank you so much, and just to confirm the borders, I have a map and I was wondering if I can get your guidance on it so I know exactly where?
I was wondering if I could get your asistance for a diagram, it is a simple photo but I cant post here. where can i post it to show you to get your advice?

[languid bear]

Well, new eden map composition is fine, but crawling system makes me slow so It makes lose a lot of wings by hail storm, making the lantern of the hale storm section useless.

[oak remnant]

I think the border between 'final room' - or what is called zone 3 in this previous map- hasn't change.
#eden-spoilers message

[stable sun]

is it useless because you cannot reach the lanterns in time and die before then?

[lilac epoch]

It might help you to check out #beta-screenshots-videos and youtube. Hostage posted a link for you, that should help too.

[languid bear]

I can reach but I can't charge my energy from lanterns because I've lost light.

So, if they can make the crawling a little faster, I don't think there will be a big problem.

[lilac epoch]

That depends. If you have recharge potions, you can get back up and light the lanterns. If you don't have potions or friends to light your candle though, once you start crawling, that's basically how you'll finish the run. Everyone ends up crawling eventually so you can't really avoid it entirely, it's a matter of how soon you start crawling and how long you can delay the mechanic using potions and friends but everyone will end up crawling sooner or later.

[chilly wigeon]

The new manta hair has a hole in it when you use the chibi mask

[stable sun]

so you can't get rekindled from lamps when you are crawling? only another player that is still lit?

[short sage]

No you can still get rekindled by lamps but it takes sooo long to get back to them. just finished eden on my burner acc and it’s. not too bad but also it’s terrible only because of the crawling mechanic

[stable sun]

My mission is to develop a strategy with my team so we can can get the most out of eden :P but inevitably true:

So far I have learned in the main chat of the live catagory that you can teleport back to a kindled player, but a kindled player cannot tp to a downed player thats crawling.

[spark lance]

is this crawling motion going to be kept, even after the season of shattering?

[stable sun]

I think that is a permanent game mechanic change. (not 100% sure though)

[chilly wigeon]

The hands also glitch into the new pants with the chibi mask

[lilac epoch]

We're not sure, there have been no announcements about making it permanent. I personally think the devs are still testing it. It may make it to Live but at this point no one can say whether it will stay or if they will remove or adjust it.

[sour tartan]

I hope it’s not permanent. I already don’t going through Eden because of the last area

[short sage]

It’s in live rn btw!! just in case you didn’t know, but if you did know, then uhhhmmm pretend i didn’t mention it at all

[visual temple]

Even more useless since it’s so dark in there I can’t see squat

[sullen relic]

The fact that Eden’s mechanics have been drastically changed on top of how crawling affects us in all areas makes me think it’s highly unlikely that crawling was intended as a temporary mechanic. I can’t recall a concrete example of the devs stating that it’s permanent, but it’s very hard to think that they’d make such a big change only temporarily.

[spark lance]

it made to live already.
Also, since it is introduced independent of the SoS, doesn't seem like they are related and would stay permanent

[sour tartan]

Whelp guess I gotta skip some traveling spirits to save my ascended candles

[trim spade]

Still hope they can update the crawling

[spark lance]

you'll be earning ACs from shard events during shattering.
Also crawling is frustrating but u can easily get 10+ candles from eden if u have 120ish wings

[trim spade]

Whoever thought we would love crawling

[spark lance]

Even if crawling? I currently have 126 wings

I usually do it twice ina week just to get all the statues lmao. Go in w max wing count the first, then about 80-100 the second time bc I’m lazy

[spark lance]

you'll be fine imo.
i tested eden a few times with 126 wings, 136wings and 145 wings. i got 12+ ACs all three times.
people have been mad here because crawling makes the eden trip longer as it is very slow.
here is my latest eden trip if u r interested in how crawling looks like.
#beta-screenshots-videos message

[carmine thorn]

I earned 15.25 AC with 145 WL last night in live. That was also after messing up 5 times and losing around 20ish WL in the process total. I'd say you'd be fine with 126
Edit: when I test in beta, I don't do the first section and just do the "final stretch" with wing buffs only. As long as you have more than 78 WL before the transition to the "final stretch," you should be able to get to the dunes at the end. (Final stretch is my new verbiage for the section that replaced the constant rain)

[spark lance]

I don’t rlly care if my eden trip is extended. I just care about how much ac I’ll get/getting all the statues. I’ll take an hour for this if I need to lmao

[spark lance]

Then don't worry haha. go get those sweet candles

[spark lance]

Okay okay. I had 116 the last time and got 11ac but that was before the update so now I’m scared I’ll get 5 or something

[spark lance]

no it's better than previous builds imo

[terse yarrow]

Tbh if you only care about ac earning, then eden isn't needed anymore. You can get ~14-20 ac from clearing red shard every week.

[spark lance]

Oh wait what? Seriously? How you supposed to clear the shards w all the crawling and the crabs tho

[carmine thorn]

You get between 2-4 AC per red shard event... That is if live will mirror beta.

[spark lance]

Coooool. Can you do it in groups

server merges have been good during shard events so it isn't as bad.
strangers have been really helpful

I heard one hit w those crabs and you’re crawling

[terse yarrow]

Soon you will know how tedious it is

[spark lance]

Can you still get the shards even if crawling ?

[carmine thorn]

No, red crabs reduce your light by 2-4 wedges. Earlier beta builds were insta-extinguish, though. That was changed pretty quickly due to player feedback.

[carmine thorn]

You can't burn the darkness while extinguished just like other darkness.

[spark lance]

I’ll drag my friends w me then lmao. If you burn it as a group, then do all of you get ac?

[terse yarrow]

Crab isn't matter, red shard isn't matter, but crab+red shard=nightmare

[trim spade]

The crabs are pretty easy to dodge, and they can also be lured away from the plants so you can burn them in peace. Only a couple locations can give you enough trouble but typically you can get the ac without much trouble

[spark lance]

How do you dodge crabs? Fly up? And I hear that if you touch the shards then you crawl

[trim spade]

Yeah be careful to not touch the shards or you’ll lose wl. You can dodge by flying up or just moving away since the crabs charge in a straight line and don’t turn

[spark lance]

Ok good to know!

[gilded parrot]

Do you think bots can think?

[spark lance]

Hi :3

Does anyone know where I can give an opinion to add things to the beta?

[whole agate]

#beta-feedback

[half nest]

beta is just where stuff gets tested, there's also #wishlist-and-ideas-archived if you want to recommend something that might eventually be put into the live game.

[spark lance]

My most sincere thanks to both of you!

[untold wedge]

Shards are normally dropped in 2 different locations at the same time within the realm of the day. You can complete both shard areas and get AC or candles from them both thus doubling up your daily tally. Sweet.

[woeful obsidian]

You remember last year Halloween testi g. The pumpkin? It tooks our light if we stand in red light. But they take it away.

Maybe this will happen in live too.
They making the crabs and crystals not so hard. I still have hope.

[ember fern]

Woaaaa really??? I have it , and never guessed that it have that dangerous function in beta lmao

[woeful obsidian]

It has.. But they took it. Now it's harmless

[exotic solar]

Maybe an unusual opinion, but I feel like this update, like the whole red shards and black shards etc, would do great if it's an addition to Eden realm—making Eden realm more explorable with new areas, but dangerous, instead of just a one-way trip to get weekly ACs

[ember fern]

Danggg …I personally would love it ^^ the area has so many potential

[winter salmon]

i think next update is for day of summer, i can't wait for this event