beta-discussion

[agile hazel]

I included 20 Dec and 16 Jan

[desert token]

more than the seasonal cosmetics the hair clip accessories in beta are currently very floaty and have a gap between most hairs. in live they look great, but snowflake and shell look very odd in beta atm

[spark lance]

and also, the new ice at home is scary AHAHDHSHA

[gilded basin]

seeing how close we are to the live release and how the items look right now, i wouldnt be surprised if the seasonal polish is skipping beta entirely i feel like the biggest thing that needs polish Soon is the diving tutorial since it's really only explained with tutorial messages which players older than a few months tend to ignore, but i think it'll be fine

[kindred fossil]

I keep saying that live will hopefully be ahead, hopefully

[spark lance]

i'm hoping the same too. they could've just been on holiday and weren't able to update beta

[bold basin]

serving you trypophobia realness also looks and reminds me of squid skin, y'know the color patches they have

[gilded basin]

i just hope the launch isnt as buggy as dreams'

[timid bough]

personally i think only the ult mask needs polishing (ult braid's color too)
the land above are just sand dunes nothing special, personally i think it just needs lighting changes
the underwater parts are more relaxed now and the "beautiful" parts of it have unlimited oxygen
and seasonal quests... they always have been fetch quests

[spark lance]

/narrator voice/
little did the squeak boy know, the launch was going to be as buggy as dreams's. in fact, it was going to be...buggier.

[timid bough]

dreams launch wasn't that buggy in a sense... just an unfortunate malfunction, and a fix that made it worse, and an unfortunate timing

[kindred fossil]

Some cosmetic have terrible clipping in a sense that it looks unfinished

[gray quarry]

I don’t understand the oxygen. I thought we lost lights because we were in dark water. We can stand under the ice rink and breathe fine

[timid bough]

not anymore 😔

[kindred fossil]

Light (flame) needs oxygen…?

[bold basin]

And I just had like a realization that, we're basically gonna get the rebreathers after doing all the quests/completing the constellation right? Unless you buy candle packs, everything will be finished by then. What other use will it be good for? Ik the general, like it adds more oxygen, but I feel like it'd be helpful for doing the quests

[gilded basin]

the ice rink doesnt have water anymore, and considering we're fire-based i think it makes sense we'd take water damage

[gray quarry]

We can swim in it fine tho as long as we have air. So it’s just hard to wrap my head around the whole concept

[gilded basin]

i assume it's for if/when tgc adds more underwater areas? i'd love to see what's in the water around sanctuary when it gets updated and it'd be nice to not have to come back up every minute or so

[languid bear]

Ohhh..interesting

[spark lance]

i can imagine lore chat debating whether hidden forest's rainwater wasn't corrupted, and it was actually just normal water this whole time (since y'know, now water bad)

[timid bough]

its more or less just cosmetics with an extra bonus, they aren't really crucial

[agile hazel]

As much as it'd be cool for underwater stuff in Sanc, it's already on the brink of tolerance. Even on my samsung s20 it can get quite laggy

[gray quarry]

So they just changed the lore to make all water bad? After assembly has a diving board, a place we can swim. Dreams has a hot spring. or enchantment they made the dark water clean. Just doesn’t make sense to me

[pale junco]

Drowning is different than loosing light, skykids don't loose light while diving
I don't think we've ever gone underwater before

[gilded basin]

what if skykids have lungs and their general response to getting hurt is releasing winged light they already did that with bonk damage, i think you're looking into it too much

[desert token]

yeah, I would moreso like to see the underwater sections of the prairie caves expanded some. I never go there now so would feel nice to have a reason. alternatively they could just have a section in sanc where you’re blown away by a large current to a new halfway underwater coral reef like area (since I know many want something in that style)

[spark lance]

CORAL REEEFFFFF

[pale junco]

Maybe turtle could make a comeback with a new underwater area

[gray quarry]

Looking into it too much, I wouldn’t read lore chats if I were you then

[desert token]

swimming with the turtles in the east australian current style 🐢

that scene from nemo still makes me laugh hahs

[gilded basin]

oh im aware of lore chat i just think it's funny that they'd completely look over the possibility of skids not being able to hold their breath forever

[timid bough]

a solve to sanctuary underwater area but not laggy is to make it another level all together, like an underwater cave

[gilded basin]

ooh yeah what if you could find it by going behind one of the waterfalls

[desert token]

yeah, I feel that it would be stale to have the next season be entirely about the swimming mechanic as well. if we have a season or two between that point I’d be fine with it. but two entirely underwater seasons back to back would be kind of monotonous

[spark lance]

This was literally gen and cozy chat when they found out we could dive this season

[agile hazel]

I feel like the next season is the collab one

[bold basin]

Could we possibly have the next collab season already after this? I mean they gave a hint quite early and no way they're not working on it little by little since they could've kept it a secret

[spark lance]

perhaps we can get the 'underwater season' most ppl though of-- like underwater-y cosmetics if that makes sense, not like abyss which are basically pirates-- in another level of sanctuary, mixing in with squeak boy's idea, perhaps behind a waterfall, there could be a gate with a hole you jump into (it's a loading zone weewoo) that'll bring you to the underwater coral reef cave thing

[gilded basin]

i hope not i don't want tgc to be limited by a third party and especially don't want to keep telling people that the season's iaps are only expensive because liscencing costs arent cheap

[fervent jacinth]

Hi everyone , where is white krill?

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it!

[gray quarry]

Not that they can’t hold their breathe. What is bad water and what is okay water. We always go into dark water and lose lights, but we can swim in normal water. Now some people are saying all water is bad now. So why can we float in a hot spring but the forest rain hurts us? That’s what I was talking about before. :/

[desert token]

I mean, they also said ultimates would return when ts were introduced 2 years ago now XD I agree that we’ll probably see the next collab in 2022 for sure though

[pale junco]

It appears in the memories of anxious angler
Look around when you are reliving them

[languid bear]

What?! Then.. sky collab with journey for 6th anniversary?

[gilded basin]

oh that's easy then, the forest rain is acidic and wasteland water is dangerous because it's polluted and everything else is fine because it's not, and we drown because skykids have to breathe

[pale junco]

Sky× journey would never happen 🏃

[fervent jacinth]

That mean i only see it once? Sally

[pale junco]

No, when you relive them again it will appear again in the water

[desert token]

I don’t think they meant that all water is bad, but moreso that when we swim on the surface we still have oxygen - while we don’t diving down and thus a flame would become extinguished

[gray quarry]

That makes more sense to me. Not all water is bad. Dark water is bad. But we can still drown in any water

Ohhh ok thanks, understand now

[gilded basin]

i feel like we only lose winged light for game balance, because i'm sure if we had a proper hp system we'd lose that instead wl loss seems too heavy for drowning but it's not like we have any other way of communicating "hey you're going to die if you stay down here for too long"

[gray quarry]

I notice that light depletes quite slowly once I ran out of oxygen so I know they tried to make that part easier

[desert token]

throwback to the time you would lose emotes in eden

[molten panther]

They said late 2022. So probably the last season of the year will be the collab one

[spark lance]

probably near September-December

[molten panther]

The forest rain apparently is cold. If you stay in rain a little more without moving your skykid will start shivering (cute little detail)

[desert token]

if we assume the seasonal release schedule will be 11 weeks + 4 weeks off we’ll only have three full seasons in 2022 4 weeks might be a stretch but even with 3 it’s likely (can’t bother to re-count lol)

[twin isle]

I think that's what's happened last year right? Only three?

[bold basin]

4
Dreams, Assembly, TLP and Flight

[twin isle]

Oh right right

The way I just forgot abt flight despite it being our last season

[gray quarry]

Omg really???? Good to know thanks

[bold basin]

It felt like 30 days anyway so

Dreams started in Jan 4th tho. We're a little late. Maybe 3, maybe 4 seasons, whichever

[desert token]

if you see a little three wedge moth in forest they keep shivering constantly

[molten panther]

Yes. Just wait one minute or so. I think it takes two wedges until you can see the skykid doing the shiver emote.

[hollow compass]

Why would they collab with themselves?

[bold basin]

Why not

[molten panther]

I'm really hoping for an Alice in Wonderland collab. I pitched that idea a while ago

[bold basin]

I'm going with HTTYD for me with this one even tho the chances are eeny

[hollow compass]

Seems a bit obsolete. What new thing would that bring to Sky?

What is HTTYD?

[pale junco]

More splited mountains

[zenith mist]

im a little scared of them doing another collab tbh, tlp was my first season so i thought every season would have a bunch of iaps

[bold basin]

How to Train Your Dragon

[molten panther]

Hahahaha

I see what you mean 🤣🦐

[agile hazel]

Yeah, an Alice in Wonderland seems a lot more feasible than anything from major brands/corporations

[spark lance]

plus that 200 candle pant

[zenith mist]

sword pants have made me permanently paranoid about managing my candles

[agile hazel]

The pants were originally IAP

[spark lance]

you can't get it anymore right?

[bold basin]

I actually thought the sword pants were okay for 200 since it was IAP at first, like what 15 usd? (not sure)

[molten panther]

Me too! I'm constantly freaked out about having 200 in my inventory 😂

[spark lance]

ohh you can still get it then thank you thank you (i joined after tlp lol 👀)

[zenith mist]

i think 200 is a bit much for anything, especially something that doesn't have a use like the feast table (which is still less than sword pants)

[spark lance]

oh wait nvm I'm dumb

[desert token]

due to licensing agreements, no

[bold basin]

Tell that to the rainbow cape

[molten panther]

The rainbow cape wasn't at all worth the 200 price tag

[cobalt jacinth]

You can't have ults, sword pants and lpp themed IAPs anymore because of the nature of the collab licensing agreements

[zenith mist]

i will tell that to the rainbow cape! ... which im still going to get! .......

[spark lance]

what do you get in the end?

[bold basin]

It was 175, but still... Girl

[spark lance]

i still can't believe I bought all three of those items mentioned 😭

[zenith mist]

you can't get anything for completing the season anymore unfortunately

[cobalt jacinth]

Because that's already off topic in beta, I gladly reply you pinging you in #questions-and-help

[molten panther]

Nowdays I rarely see kids wearing the rainbow cape. I only wore it during the event.

[kindred fossil]

I wear it from time to time but I see the rainbow tassel around a lot more often

[molten panther]

Unless it's an ultimate, no cosmetic is worth 200 candles. That's outrageous

[spark lance]

oh alright thank you

[bold basin]

The ults can comeback being priced 500+ candles and I would totally invest

[agile hazel]

Better than paying $15 for it

[molten panther]

I'm curious if they're doing something new for this year's Days of Earth. If it's for charity I don't mind spending the 💸

[zenith mist]

even though the price of sword pants is a bit much im glad tgc is continuing to kind of have "free ults". i know it was mostly done bc itd be unfair having an ult that gives an advantage over f2p players, but id love to see more

[bold basin]

Based off of the calendar, what's the next "Days of" event after Love? Bloom... then Earth right? Unless they add a new one

[desert token]

last year they held a brief children’s days celebration with the pinwheel spells. not sure if they’ll do anything more with it, or if it’ll just be a non-recurring event

[agile hazel]

Bloom would be the next, happened March last year

[twin isle]

TGC doesn't own journey anymore right? It belongs to Sony? That would be a reason why. I always thought if sky got a ps4/5 release then that means they have warmed up to each other again and we could get a journey collab.

Edit: or at least I think Sony has more pull than tgc on the game.

[zenith mist]

im not sure if i could see them adding a new one honestly. we already have quite a bit days of events, and with new cosmetics being added theyre becoming pretty expensive. everything in mischief together was like $70

[desert token]

elements of journey are **deeply ** infused in the entirety of sky - there’s not really anything they can do gameplay wise to bring value. cosmetics would be the only addition rlly, and we already have confirmation that the postman cape is a sort of nod to the journey scarf

[twin isle]

I just loved journey so much. I think a collab season would be neat but do agree making a story out of it for the season would be hard since sky does pull a lot from it. Maybe they could implement a new mechanic with it or something? Idk. I just want it for nostalgia because journey made me cry HAHA

[molten panther]

Also the yellow scarf

[agile hazel]

The yellow scarf is Little Prince

[molten panther]

Yes. But looks a lot like the Journey scarf too

[spark lance]

assembly pendant: 🧍 /hj

[agile hazel]

I mean, you could say that about any scarf. All scarves look like scarves

[molten panther]

When kids are doing Journey cosplay they always use the yellow scarf

[agile hazel]

Yeah cause it's a scarf, doesn't have any connection to Journey

[spark lance]

not always, i think more ppl use it bc it's available to well, more people. tlp season was released later than dreams (therefore the playerbase grew) and sky was just recently ported to switch so

[desert token]

me too! I think journey is around as close to a perfect game you can get. maybe it’s just me but I’d rather see something fresh in sky than doing a journey 2.0 that is worse than the original game. having a music sheet based on the soundtrack for journey would be a dream though. nascence can be played quite easily without a sheet, but the more complicated themes would be amazing!

[spark lance]

The peeking postman cape has more journey inspiration imo

[zenith mist]

maybe they could have a sort of mini days of event for journey with a couple of things you can get

[nova bay]

could you move this to #general-sky-discussion as this isn’t beta related ❤️

[twin isle]

It was at first as we were talking about future seasons but kind of went off topic

I hope at some point though we get turtle back

Idc how just eventually

[torn tulip]

Well, what could we do with no updates for 3 weeks

[hollow compass]

Not chat here.

[languid bear]

just waiting for the beta update. Silence

[twin isle]

Yeah there's not much to say that hasn't already been said a thousand times since we haven't gotten an update for a while lol so back to silence

[kindred fossil]

Stack your favorite spirit for the last time before 16.0 live (if it is coming with that update, no clue)

[dry flax]

Imagine if Season candle glitch makes it to live 👀

[minor falcon]

beta economy can be a meme, but in live that would be a meltdown

[kindred fossil]

As much fun as it seems, I hope that never happens

[cosmic orchid]

I guess the updoot will come later in the season

[languid bear]

Can we still give 5 hearts pack to our friend? Was it the day of love event? I don't remember exactly what it was.

[torn tulip]

Fortune afair

[desert token]

it's from days of fortune, not love, similar to how during the time of the lunar new year people will give red packets of money I believe

I didn't have the option available last time I checked. should be gone now that they're done with internal testing for fortune wax

[languid bear]

Ohh thanks y'all!!

[winged falcon]

Guys, how can i have Nintendo pack in beta?

[neat swan]

When will days of fortune start?

[remote ocean]

I find a bit funny how everyone is saying "the quest guide deserved his sword" and thinking braid beard guy (woops forgot his name) is the guide

[desert token]

not possible since testing for it was discontinued a long time ago now

[glass spoke]

nintendo testing ended a while ago, i don't think it's possible to- yeah what misty said

[desert token]

if you were there when it was available that is the only way to own it

[wanton stump]

in for a surprise

[oak remnant]

Tbh I personally think he suits being the QG better

[pale junco]

Questgivers were in the middle in the past so the teaser is abit misleading

[kindred fossil]

Guides are usually the center in promo artwork, so that’s probably why

[pale junco]

I can relate to the current one tho, running around and doing stuff for spirits

[kindred fossil]

Also she’s just a little girl amidst lunatic adults

[remote ocean]

Wonder if they'll do infocards though...

Maybe that's why she's the questguide, because she looks sane in comparison

[pale junco]

We only have 4 days left so probably not

[lyric kite]

I think it would make more sense for that spirit to be the quest guide as well because aren't they the one actually sending us off on the quests anyway? In the cutscenes it seems like they're directing us and all the other spirits on where to go search and stuff, so it does seem a bit odd that the younger spirit is the guide for the season

Although I guess it is kind of similar to Dreams that was centered mainly on the young skater, but a different spirit was the guide. So we're just reliving things through a certain spirit's memory of what happened even if they weren't the main character I guess

[desert token]

yeah, maybe we’re taking the place of the guide who actually did all that searching for resources when the spirits were still alive

[mighty torrent]

Hey I wanna ask can the boat give a bit faster cause I think it’s too slow

And for the boat decorations give lots of symbol love probably

[sullen relic]

With one player, or two? The boat moves at different speeds depending on whether both the seats are occupied

[mighty torrent]

Might can get really worthy it and give extra seasonal candles because it’s same like others IAP 19.99

[mighty torrent]

Can you tell me how it’s work ! For one and two people

[sullen relic]

It used to not move at all if only one player was sitting on it, but they made a change at some point where it'll now move if there's just one player sitting -- it's slower than when you have two players sitting down.

[mighty torrent]

(I’m not had beta that’s why I ask)

[mighty torrent]

Oo can you show me ?

[sullen relic]

Oh -- without beta, it's hard to explain much further if you can't physically go in-game to see and test the speed, aside from looking at recent videos of the boat if anyone's uploaded it

Not in a good position to go in-game and record at the moment

[mighty torrent]

Ah I see

By the way are the Chinese cape logo is always be the same or change ?

Or it will be permanent?

😄 ah okay

[oblique fractal]

Wait sorry

Mb I thought this was qnh-

[mighty torrent]

XD hahaha

[oblique fractal]

I'm blind

[mighty torrent]

This is beta XD discussion

I rlly want to know, if that cape return I will buy boat 😄

If the cape limited edition and boat as well I’m rip

[oblique fractal]

IM BLINDDDDD

[worthy barn]

Hey, does anyone have anything on abyss spirit tree prices? I used to be able to find tons of spirit tree documents and trackers and stuff but I can’t find anything for abyss
Maybe because it’s still in beta

[lyric kite]

Beta testers in this server are discouraged from posting guides like that here because things like that are subject to change until the season goes live. You can probably find some videos on youtube if you search for things like that, but yeah do keep in mind that it may not be 100% final yet and could be different once the season is released in a few days

[kindred fossil]

I made a chart here for reference only: #beta-screenshots-videos message
Please keep in mind what Laure said above

Edit: it’s been removed

[worthy barn]

Yea, used to be a beta tester and I get that
I’m just curious because I really haven’t found anything yet

[lyric kite]

I know I have seen some Sky youtubers post videos with that information, so it should be out there somewhere. I've seen some other people post price charts here as well but many of them got deleted

[kindred fossil]

I just linked one 👀

[lyric kite]

Yeah yours is still there lol, I just meant if they were searching for it they may not have seen anything because I have seen the mods delete some other ones. Idk how they pick and choose which ones get to stay

[worthy barn]

Probably the ones with disclaimers on them get to stay!

[kindred fossil]

Even with disclaimers, some are asked to be removed
At the time my chart was made, everyone was confused about the price changes & thought the season is going to be more expensive than Flight, we weren’t given official information about those changes so I had to document it

[desert token]

I think the main difference is which charts or compilations are intended for beta rather than posting here to get ahead before season goes live

[vapid briar]

charts in general shouldn't be posted in beta since the numbers are subject to change over the course of testing and development. you're welcome to create and hold onto them and post only after the season starts and finalized prices have been confirmed, and those posts would go in the live channels, not beta.

[kindred fossil]

I’m well aware of that fact, I had to make an exception during that time to clear up misguided confusion

If I recall, a critical discussion generated from that confusion, rightfully so. I would prefer if my fellow testers weren’t screaming at #beta-feedback when in reality the total price has not moved a single candle

[austere merlin]

This is unrelated to current convo but would the beta testing that sky does be public beta or private beta (because invites are scarce )

[kindred fossil]

Public, it’s not under an NDA

[vapid briar]

Exceptions are generally at the discretion of staff or mods. I understand you were trying to help clear up any confusion, but out of context it can be perceived that the rules don't apply to you and could feel unfair to others. I'm going to delete your post now, even though it's been up for over a month.
If you feel strongly that a chart warrants an exception you can ask directly or ask for additional clarification be provided in the #beta-announcements or #beta-known-issues channels where there is better visibility for all.

[kindred fossil]

Fair enough. It’s a little too late to request changes, but during that time it should’ve been documented that prices has been rebalanced across spirits in #beta-announcements because I don’t recall that ever being mentioned, hence an out of context screenshot caused all of this and the creation of that chart

[gilded parrot]

[untold oxide]

has anyone figured out if its possible to dive with a friend if they dont have the dive ability

[rancid sleet]

(ping is off) i was actually taking notes yesterday and i found that for build 181457, the cost of seasonal items were adjusted. you can find it in the update notes for that build, i hope that helps

[oblique fractal]

It's certainly possible, but if you unhold them somehow (like you collect a shell or unhold hands in general) your friend will float back to the surface of the water or hit some kind of obstacle on the way up. I never tested what happens if u piggy ur friend tho. I think it's the same as holding hands in general but collecting shells won't make them unhold you. Haven't confirmed yet tho

Has been confirmed by a person few messages below me that piggy does in fact unhold a friend if u collect shells/open doors

[cobalt jacinth]

That means those friends act like a buoy or an empty bottle with air in it. You can pull them with you but once you release them they pop up

[oblique fractal]

It's always important to keep light cargo strapped with you

[icy falcon]

collecting shells or opening doors will undo piggy as well, can confirm!

[kindred fossil]

…At least from what I remember

I can’t find my sources, so I’ll be removing that message, Val

Still, prices were adjusted before build 181457, my original chart was build 181324

Actually this is frying my brain, I would like to move on

[rancid sleet]

no worries!

[languid ocean]

Is the keys changing sizes during music sheets a beta thing or is it on some devices on live?

[gray matrix]

will the off season qg come back bc the area feels really dang dead (despite the fact that all of the npcs are pretty dead already) and it's sad and depressing. will this be fixed and when

[valid terrace]

I think it's intended? It's not exactly clear, I'm only a lurker

[azure lily]

yeah I also wanna know this- I honestly really miss off season qg... I miss Spirit freind

I do agree home feels a lot more empty without any spirits

[languid ocean]

I dont get why they dont just bring back the 2 separate buttons for quests and season qg tree so that the off season qg doesn't lose their job

[valid terrace]

I second this
have felt severely lonely, and a lot of people I know miss them very much

some reimplementation in some form would mean the world to me, even if in some completely different role
they show up on promotional art, so they're still relevant

is there a reason behind removing them beyond "the qg is confusing to new people"? it only adds to the problem, it's clearer to have an actual figure to indicate where dailies are, like the ones you see all over the game, rather than a jarring zoom-in to an object barely explicitly relevant to much
sky promotes friendship and altruism. isn't an npc that waves to you, and generally feels like a welcoming figure favourable? I understand functional game design over wishes, but there are ways they can be kept whilst still having the statue function
They could in tandem? idk exactly how, will elaborate

I know that other players are ultimately more important than NPCs in this game, but they make the world feel alive and enjoyable ifwhen you don't have anyone around
they shape the world

anyway idk just wanted to publicly give feedback
have been very upset about this

[gray matrix]

💪 so true

[valid terrace]

I understand and appreciate that developing new UI takes time, and some hard decisions and sacrifices have to be made

but all I ask is that you not forget them. they've been a useful figure through the history of Sky
I know that I'm particularly attached to spirits so this may sound biased, despite them not being what the game's most focused upon, but still

anyway yeah that's what I wanted to say, thank you for listening
imma dip out

[zenith mist]

being forced to use the statue on the switch has been pretty awful honestly, trying to get your quests with the return shrine, boats, and the sessonal candle all in the same place is a nightmare.

using a controller in general just kind of sucks. im pretty sure the controls are different on the switch than just using a controller w the mobile version, so i get how it can be difficult w/out beta testers response, but some of the decisions theyve made just dont make sense at all to me

[valid terrace]

"voluntary you should give live feedback about this" I have. A few times, in fact, so dw

[lilac solstice]

I actually hate the key changing size thing. It is way too much to look at when trying to just play a music sheet.

[carmine thorn]

Personally, movement on controller is phenomenal. I can do some crazy tricks on controller that touch control players could only dream of. (Due to how much fidelity using a thumbstick for movement inherently has over a touch screen) Trying to fumble around the clunky UI is a different story, though.

[foggy aspen]

yeah this trope of "if you don't like it send feedback to the devs and bore off" confuses me. the point of this channel is to invoke discussions, not strictly feedback for the devs, as there is already a dedicated channel for that.

[valid terrace]

I encourage people to also send feedback whilst discussing things, so it gets seen both ways

[scarlet moon]

I agree.
Its quite discouraging against the point of this channel, which is to discuss features and bugs amongst eachother!
If I experience a bug, I always report them. I just sometimes like to discuss them with others so I can better understand different experiences and perspectives of whatever it is I experienced too.

[shy ore]

Ok so lemme guess, who will adopt the skykids when there's no spirits can take care of them at HOME

[valid terrace]

I just want what I said about the questgiver to catch on, I miss them so much that it hurts

[scarlet moon]

He should come back as a spirit that always hangs out in the home space during off season, but isn't in the questigver spot.

[valid terrace]

anything would be welcomed. anything

that would be perfect

[scarlet moon]

Honestly I hate the new quest mechanic, because even off season, the zoom in to the shrine is there and can't be skipped.
And I miss the off season questgiver too. I love when he's sleeping or hanging out in his little shop boat.

[valid terrace]

all I ask for is some form of reimplementation

just. someone to cheer us on in the interseason

[vagrant fable]

I never got to see them hanging by the boat

[valid terrace]

maybe permanently at the boat when it’s there rather than when there’s just merch, but doing more?

maybe make them huggable. i would adore that

(would make it impossible for me to decide whether to buy from there or the Ark, honestly)

[spark lance]

Guys, imagine the Season trailer be like:
That one Abyss questgiver will enter the social area of Golden Wasteland , get on the "entrance" boat and travel to the Crystal Bay. When Arrived on the seasonal map, she will look around the area and find the "pirate" boat.

[gilded parrot]

@spark lance as was helpfully explained in #beta-announcements, that ship has sailed... to the Golden Wasteland social-space it moved there so it would be easier to find 😉

[spark lance]

Darling
I didn't ask for that but ok then

i swear i could say anything with boat in it and skybot would respond with that 😭
i still wish for them to bring back the bigger boat tho

[stuck sparrow]

And the turtle 😞🐢

[cosmic orchid]

🐢 is in a better place together with

[split spire]

hi

when is the update dropping

they haven't said the pre-order date either?

nevermind, apparently there isn't a preorder o_o

[signal folio]

If we get reborn so can they, I'm breaking them out of orbit

[twin isle]

The official teaser said an estimated release date for the season of abyss. Jan 17. However for future reference we don't know when stuff drops until you guys do (I.e- teaser released by tgc).

[surreal dust]

Noooo,turtle

[spark lance]

ah yah they got rid of that feature some time ago

“pre orders” will be open the day the season begins

[twin isle]

Yeah it's just buying the AP like normal but you do get the SC package you would have as if u preordered. They're just giving it now.

Just adding on

[solid dune]

Anyone else notice the boat on the map in #news is not accurate to the actual boat in game.
I miss the old design

[terse flame]

The golden trail when we flap remind me of the old sky flying trail

[timid bough]

this is conspiracy theory levels but everything else on the map got updated to match their updated appearance but not the ship.....

[wraith charm]

Sus

[carmine thorn]

Beta being different than live? Seems normal to me.

[hollow compass]

I’ll post a comparison.

They look identical.

[bright yew]

Does anyone know when the sassy stance spirit may return? Or have a initial guess if it will ever come back soon?

[viscid sundial]

Nope. TS are random

[placid herald]

It will come back but no one knows when considering there is no order for a ts to come.

Also keep general questions in #general-sky-discussion

[bright yew]

Oh I didn't know where to ask so I thought this was the best place t.t

Mb

[placid herald]

Beta testers don’t know ts in advance and our ts are even different from live

[bright yew]

Oh mk

[tawdry tree]

Hi sorry i have been busy with my health so I'm not that updated. For the breathing mask in the pass, there's the ult and non-ult, right?

[pale junco]

Looks like it, but we haven't completed the 5th quest to get the other one

[molten panther]

Guys, isn't it weird that we're getting season teasers one week before it starts? Also live still has no update. If I remember correctly live gets an update one week before the season starts. Feels like everything was left last minute this time.

I remember Assembly was announced weeks before it started and TLP was teased half way through Assembly.

For a season that important it's not giving enough hype 🤔

[timid bough]

why it is weird? its just promoting the season
patches has a bigger gap now with switch may have something to do with that, and they also take days to publish an update fully before releasing it to the public

we also don't know the progress on seasons whatsoever, an early teaser doesn't always indicate anything

and what makes a season important? none of the seasons are important for anything, they are just content

also assembly was seen as meh by many yet it generated most hype (in this server) last year, the world works in mysterious ways

[molten panther]

It's weird for more reasons than one.
First, marketing. If you want to sell a product, in this case AP, you hype it.
Second of all, the app update should come sooner. I have friends that take three days to a week to figure out there's an update. With the little hype that's been done they risk starting the season later.

And this season is important because of the new diving mechanics. I suppose Sky is going to develop this one more in the seasons to come.

(And Assembly IS my favourite season) 😁

[cobalt jacinth]

#live-feedback maybe suits well for your opinion and I agree. Just that's not related to beta anymore.

[molten panther]

Too late for feedback. All the feedback I gave on this season was ignored. I wasn't the only one complaining about those things yet no changes were made with the exception of diving time.
I posted here in case of spoilers.

[rancid reef]

Guys what happen on sky???

[drowsy fiber]

Currently there's not much going on in the beta, the season is about to go to live. We're still waiting for the last seasonal quest but other than that, nothing special is going on at the moment. Though that can change at any moment if TGC decides to send us an update to test.

[rancid reef]

Ok

Btw i can enter on beta sky😅bcuz theres so much testers

[drowsy fiber]

In case you're asking how to join, read the #beta-faq channel, all the information is there. Short version: You have to wait until TGC sends out an invite wave, which happens at random times.

[timid bough]

they are promoting it
the developer update, the blog, and the new post today
besides that, sky social media has always worked in mysterious ways
they post their trailers on the day the season releases
its just that they aren't a shady pushy salesman, nor are they even selling the product yet (no pre order)

there is a season timer in game (idk if its supposed to be still there?), and the game announces in game when a season starts, i think your friends just don't pay enough attention

a new mechanic isn't important when its not crucial most of the time, neither it changes everything (may change in the future tho)
like i said, its content and the sky world is almost static and nothing changes the world view, in the sense some events in games are important as in it moves the story
even the hotfixes for bugs that the game puts out is more important

assembly was pretty good love the black masks (still use it) and the ult cape was what i worn for most of last year, seasonal areas were cozy, albeit shared spaces was released lackluster

feedback is well... they may or may not change things.... there is just so many underlying reasons that we don't know going behind the scenes, feedback is basically yelling into the void and hoping so don't really expect much

[whole helm]

is 12 wings available in beta rn? quite a while since my last time online, so im not sure

[hollow compass]

Nope

[drowsy fiber]

I think not yet, though I heard we are at something around 190 wing lights so soon it should be. (If anyone has better information, please tell)

[cobalt jacinth]

I'm sure it was not ignored. Please don't take on heart if your ideas are not made to live. TGC listens to all feedback and if most users request it AND they find it reasonable they will make it live. Reading all feedbacks but not making something is not ignoring, there's no use for making it personal

[cobalt jacinth]

Because of ts repeats in beta it's lagging behind live with wing counts

[whole helm]

lmao bc i just meet a kid with 12 wings and thought how many ts did i miss

[molten panther]

Don't worry, I'm not making it personal. I was expressing an opinion.
The way this season was handled it just seems a mess. Lack of polishing, lack of promotion. This is the first time I'm not excited about a season.

[cobalt jacinth]

Ah nice
But have you played dreams season?
This season is far from unpolishedness of that, it's far better ready even tho it has brand new controls and underwater features

[timid bough]

i for one think the update drought has made us paranoid

[molten panther]

Yes. I did. I think Dreams is the best season we've had. Very well rounded, very well done.
Yes, it was buggy, and a lot of those bugs are still there, but they pale in comparison to how good the season was overall.

P.S.: Actually I find it funny now how buggy those boats still are. You never know where they might take you 🤭

[cobalt jacinth]

Yes I loved it too! One of my favorite seasons. But from bugs and unpolishedness and from app review score drop it "leads" haha.

[hallow igloo]

Most seasons were at a point of contention right before release. But I believe they're all ironed out in time.

[timid bough]

i can agree on seasons having certain focuses on the area/cosmetics/mechanic/questline/lore radar chart
a big part of why dreams leaves a bigger impression is that it had better narrative compared to other seasons, and a commonly grandeur, charming and romantic theme.... well nobody hates a good sunset right?
as a result it does lack a mechanic that comes with most seasons

[hollow compass]

All seasons will cause “havoc”, because TGC has a tendency to reinvent the wheel every time. To many, the game’s initial release in 2019 was a surprise. It’s just how they seem to work.

[molten panther]

Let's not forget about the beautiful secret areas in Village of Dreams. I'd take that any day over new mechanics 🤩
It's one of the reasons I still play this game. People want beautiful scenery.

Abyss area is small in comparison and we only get a few banks of fish and some plants. Even that lonely one turtle was scarped away...

With Prairie you get the sense that live goes on. Even without the "humans" the place is lively and still full of life. In Abyss there's only a few fish that I'm scared will be taken over by crabs and krills. There isn't much to explore and you get a very tiny sense of ocean life.

[hollow compass]

Give credit for what?

[kindred fossil]

If you meant the mask, it has been altered to not reference the movie

I’ve never watched said movie so I have no idea what you’re implying

[molten panther]

I haven't watched it. But maybe this is the new collab they talked about 😂🤭

[hallow igloo]

There's no underwater scenes in the movie. The whole movie is about a toxic jungle and bugs

[pale junco]

It's almost like pirates, diving and underwater sea monsters have been used in thousands of books and movies

[timid bough]

yes... i really love the sunset between clouds in hermit valley
treasure reef is already invaded by dark creatures and it even gets worse with the quest progression, well atleast only during quest 4 atm

[pale junco]

Ummm...

[timid bough]

bruh

[agile hazel]

It's called a breathing mask, it's an actual thing

[spark lance]

The same can be implied about literally everything else

[desert token]

if the season was “just like nausicaä” the entire internet could be copyrighted by that movie

[agile hazel]

Sorry but Nausicaa didn't invent diving and scuba gear

[pale junco]

I can't tell if you are serious rn

[kindred fossil]

Okay…

[agile hazel]

You're drawing connections when there aren't any

[pale junco]

Abzu watching from the corner:

[hallow igloo]

Okay, yes, one could argue that there might be a couple stylistic similarities with the Ohm from the film and the leviathan from abyss. But multiple red eyes aren't copyrighted

[sullen relic]

We didn't have anything new or ongoing to test ever since they brought back the friend constellation changes, did we?

[desert token]

I recommend you look into what can actually be copyrighted. entire ideas cannot be copyrighted, or we would have literally one platform game ever. either mario or sonic wouldn’t exist, depending on who came first. what can be copyrighted is intellectual property - which are things like the name super mario and his character design

[kindred fossil]

Are you looking for the word “inspiration”?

[agile hazel]

OK now this is just trolling

[kindred fossil]

That is different from “stealing”, miles different

[minor falcon]

many red eyes, styles of clothes and facial hair aren't something that's owned by anyone

[pale junco]

Copyrights you for using my words

[agile hazel]

I looked up Yupa, he has a generic beard and cape. Nothing to be inspired by

[split mirage]

I think we should just drop this convo.

[bold basin]

We'll wait for the lawsuit then. If TGC did in-fact "steal"

[agile hazel]

Because the season isn't based on Nausicaa, it's just people saying it looks similar

[timid bough]

is sky supposed to credit the thousands of post apocalyptical fiction too?

[pale junco]

Tgc did had a collab season and you can see how copyright and inspiration really work

[onyx minnow]

with live down, its time to dust off beta lol

[desert token]

I totally agree that there are similarities between the tone of the season and some parts of nausicaä. however, I think prefacing your messages with very accusatory lines like ”tgc is stealing” or ”it’s a copy” makes it easy for things to get heated apologize if we’re coming off a little harsh, but those are accusations one shouldn’t throw around lightly

[timid bough]

TGC does get inspired by ghibli a lot, most of them are probably ghibli fans
but none of the stuff they do are merely unfaithful copies

[tawdry pine]

One thing is inspiration and the other is stealing/obviously copying

[hallow igloo]

Besides, you could say that ghibli took inspiration from other outfits to make theirs. One individual mentioned the similarities between the clothing in the film and the Caucasus people and chokhas. Inspiration from inspiration mixed with some piraty flair

[molten panther]

This is why we can't have nice things 😂

Give people a break. There's so much stuff out there, you'll find similarities with something if you look hard enough. It's like that movie with Jim Carrey, The Number 23.

[crimson silo]

Is this the reason why they changed it? i really loved that design tho…

[desert token]

it was changed due to player feedback. I assume they just don’t want their brand new cosmetic to be relegated to a “nausicaa knockoff”

[molten panther]

Also it was flapping and being so gross. I'm glad they changed it

[bold basin]

Yeah, it being all wobbly was super disturbing and distracting

[pale gale]

Hi, I have a question.
Wasn't there an option for in-game support messages in beta before?

[minor falcon]

yes, there's been for a while and still is? I don't know if live messages are not given priority over beta messages though

[primal oracle]

#beta-bugs-ios

엥...

[pale gale]

It still is. This difference between live and beta confused me and my friend.
thank you.

[hollow compass]

Beta isn’t a priority for customer service, since most issues you face in the game are meant to be reported. What kind of issue are you having?

[pale gale]

My friend is having an account issue.

And we talked about where to report to.

I went back through the logs here and found that they said "report to support to recover your account" and I told her that.

[hollow compass]

What kind of an account problem? Sorry for being a bit curious. I’m unsure if support helps with beta account recovery, but it’s worth a try.

[pale gale]

I will not tell you guys the details unless my friend want to talk about it.
Well, it's not a bug in this game, so don't worry.

[hollow compass]

It’s ok. I was just curious, since I’m not sure we get help with retrieving beta accounts. But perhaps we do!

[gentle tusk]

The boat on the map hasn't changed even in the official teaser
I still have hope for it to be rebuilt on the last quest

[wanton stump]

yess pleasee

[dusty yoke]

just going here to comment:
i am totally drowning my skid at upcoming season

[brave scarab]

Where did the boat for the abyss area went? I can’t find it

[gilded parrot]

I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback

@brave scarab as was helpfully explained in #beta-announcements, that ship has sailed... to the Golden Wasteland social-space it moved there so it would be easier to find 😉

[bright forge]

||social space of wasteland||

[eager harness]

You will lose winged light doing that.

[deep hare]

Are the latest tweaks and updates for the new season being done on a private server? The season premieres in a few days and there was no beta update... suspense

[kindred fossil]

There is no live update yet either, we’ll see

[carmine thorn]

More than likely internal dev builds. Other than the Switch beta, (It was a closed beta and ended once Switch went live) other official beta happenings usually occur here.

[torn tulip]

One question, ive heard something about Switch demanding updates one week ahead or something? Can someone please explain what is it and how it affects Sky?

[remote ocean]

Basically! Before Sky launched on Switch, the updates only needed to be approved by the Google Playstore and the iOS appstore.

Now, however, the Nintendo part in charge also has to approve the Switch updates, and their process is longer. This means the game can't be updated as often, because it's a long process, and it's better to upload all you can in a single go.

This doesn't affect hot fixes, but new patches will take longer to come. Hope it helps!

[hollow compass]

Switch only has one hot fix per year, so even if some things are quick to fix for mobile devices it may take some time to reach Switch.

[torn tulip]

So mobile won't get quick hot fixes because of Switch now?

[hollow compass]

No, mobile can still get hotfixes and it has. Switch won’t, unless it’s super critical.

[sharp tendon]

Did they get rid of the water under the ice rink in valley?

[molten panther]

Yes

[sharp tendon]

I assume for continuity (since we didn’t need to come up for air and it wouldn’t fit with the new mechanic)

[molten panther]

Exactly

[orchid frigate]

Or the fact that stopped Sky kids to stay late at night because of the water under ~<~

[lilac bobcat]

I’m curious, when the season came out on Beta, was there a new section to the wind paths that gives access to the new location?

[sharp tendon]

I’ll miss it…

[minor falcon]

as 0.16.0 with abyss, fortune and love is now rolling out to live, I'd like to thank each tester who's given input on it, we've had a fun testing time once again
and of course thanks for the teams at tgc!

[sly quartz]

oh god not the dirty santa/juggler cape bug getting into live

[valid terrace]

anxious about the extinguished thing

how are you supposed to tell someone is put out? should I just spam deep call in forest

[drowsy fiber]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what do you mean by 'extinguished thing'?

[valid terrace]

capes when you’re put out now being dark
makes it difficult to tell a random from a put out random

[drowsy fiber]

Oh, didn't even notice that... You're right, it's a good question. The only way I can think of is if someone has a wing flying away...

[valid terrace]

extinguished capes are now dark rather than white

[hollow compass]

“Not my problem”? I tend to look at the stars.

[drowsy fiber]

That's a really good idea!

[spark lance]

is there a chance that the ult mask can still change design after it has been revealed in live?? like due to player's feedback?

[kindred fossil]

But it’s not that noticeable from afar, and on low-end devices and lower graphics, it would be hard to notice. White cape made it glaringly obvious

[drowsy fiber]

If I remember correctly, there was some final changes made in enchantment to the hat ultimate gift. So I'd assume it's possible in theory and at least for small changes also in reality. However, I doubt there will be major changes made once the content is live.

[spark lance]

oh god. thanks!!

[light ibex]

When will next beta invites open

[hollow compass]

It would be interesting to hear the reasoning behind the cape change.

[digital flame]

which change exactly?

i dont recall it being changed...

[kindred fossil]

I’d assume the changes to extinguish capes, they’re no longer white (for the most part)

[hollow compass]

Weren’t we just discussing a change in the colour when someone’s light goes out?

[fast skiff]

as we're not devs, unfortunately we don't know, but since you already own the Beta invites role (ping), you'll be notified when another Beta invite wave arrives.

[digital flame]

oh i thought maybe u meant ultimate cape or something

[kindred fossil]

UPDOOT

Ooh

This update includes changes for:

• Increased the duration of the breath meter while underwater

[proud coral]

Excuse me TGC so many things to cover

[kindred fossil]

[proud coral]

HAHA

[kindred fossil]

Bamboozled

[spark lance]

we were FOOLED

[valid terrace]

the world’s smallest update

[crimson silo]

And i was just about to sleep ..welp

[kindred fossil]

The changes to duration were already in a back-end update, I’m not sure if there were any further adjustments

[cosmic orchid]

UPDOOT

[tacit sun]

now how long is the air meter?

[kindred fossil]

Still updating…

[warm carbon]

Yay longer breathing time

[orchid frigate]

Yay breathing underwater!

[cosmic orchid]

yey

[spark lance]

breathing time ‼️‼️‼️

[torn tulip]

OMG

[spark lance]

I have a question, how many candles can be made per day at most?

[torn tulip]

Irs happening!

[astral plover]

Around 15-20

[valid terrace]

woooo here we go
longer breathing time (even though I hate calling it that)

[spark lance]

It is really how many are made, but there are people who say they make more than 20 candles

[vapid briar]

this is a second increase to the breath timer, so please give it a try, preferably without the ult mask and give your feedback in #beta-feedback so that it gets back to the devs and isn't lost in the chat channel

[cosmic orchid]

sky kids do have lungs

or is it just air to keep the light inside them from being put out

[torn tulip]

Wait its only breathing

[desert token]

since the build number changed by ~100 I assume there’s some other changes in there too. mayhaps lighting ones pspsps valley oob

[valid terrace]

I have a potentially silly query

do skykids actually breathe? or would you rather leave it to interpretation

[agile hazel]

That's better for #lore-discussion-spoilers

[valid terrace]

asking for lore chat

[frosty trout]

The candle forge "rate" in beta is the same as live. Season candles can be gathered more quickly in beta. New accounts can collect a few more candles than usual as they rescue emote spirits and view their temple scenes for the first time, but also, that's the same in beta as in live.

[astral plover]

Actually it can goes up 20+ but it would be takes more time because you need collect wax even we run out of chevron and the candle logo change color to dark grey

[eager fulcrum]

i am so glad the breath meter was extended that was something i was really worried about

[rugged kayak]

with this beta update coming out so close to the season's live release though, i wonder if the breath meter change will be live? especially considering the rules or whatever with how frequently the switch version can be updated.

[eager fulcrum]

oh no i hope so 😭

[lyric kite]

It could be included in the 0.16.5 update for live, which I think will probably go out before the 4th and 5th quests become available in the live version, since lately they've been doing about 2 weeks in between each quest

[drowsy fiber]

Even if itisn't in live yet, it can always come with future updates.

[eager fulcrum]

i think it will still be long enough? even if it’s not as long it’ll still be more than it was originally i think 🤔

[rugged kayak]

i know, but swimming is a whole new mechanic and there's gonna be issues on release (and let's be honest, the old breath meter isn't the best to play with). it's just gonna suck to have to wait for however long the update's gonna take, i wish i knew exactly how long it was :[

i guess i'm just real concerned for switch players in general after that. fiasco from a while ago :[[

[desert token]

I don’t think they need a patch to change the breath timer as it was updated in beta without one

[rugged kayak]

hopefully that's the case

[hallow igloo]

I have an extremely hot take: I'm a bit disgruntled that the breath meter is being tested for longer. I always prefer a bit of a challenge myself, but I can see how others might not want that

[drowsy fiber]

I agree with you, preferred the shorter version for its challenge, too... Even if it meant risking wings to explore. Or maybe because? Not sure.

[hallow igloo]

I mean (and this is completely subjective), where's the sense of adventure if the journey is completely safe?

[gilded parrot]

Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions

[digital flame]

well it's difficult to explore with old meter, and besides, it takes a while for players to adjust to the mechanics in general

when they released the season, i wasnt even expecting any meter at all

[tropic radish]

I actually did expect a meter
But more of a light depletion meter rather a breathing one
Considering wasteland waters are usually toxic

[vapid briar]

what may be easy for you may be an insurmountable challenge for others. especially for someone who may not be a fully able-bodied person.

[fervent ridge]

Me I still can't get over swimming

[tacit sun]

i can never get used to the swimming controls due to the fast metre

if it were depleting slower, then it can be manageable for travel

[hallow igloo]

Oh, completely understandable! I hope I didn't come across as trying to push my way of thinking onto others, and for most this expansion of breath is very useful. I wouldn't want you guys to make it shorter by any stretch.

[sterile hinge]

Bring back Mr Turtle

[tacit sun]

the turtle was a nice addition plus added more life into the ocean

[agile hazel]

Yeah, as an avid gamer myself I find Sky easy even Eden. But the player base tends to be more casual, I am fully expecting many people to have difficulties with diving

[limber arrow]

Woah update
I'm happy

[terse flame]

By the time the breath is longer the more skykids breathing underwater

[frosty trout]

The spirit of the turtle courses through Sky. It was there in the beta, then carried on in the hearts of players and beta and Light Awaits YouTubers. Turtle returned once more to let beta players know they had not forgotten us either. And now they float once more through the light of our memories, perhaps one day to return again...

[lucid ginkgo]

I didn't even realise the mask gave a breathing buff. does that count for both mask or only the ult gift?

[lilac bobcat]

Season of Turtles when?/j

[slate shuttle]

Bring back the turtle or I will scream and cry and start shaking /j

[agile hazel]

Pay a visit to Water Prophet

[frosty trout]

Maybe turtles are scared of loud noises, would not recommend

[pale junco]

Turtle prop

[languid bear]

I believe we'll able to see the turtle again in the live version.

[cosmic orchid]

turtle suit cosmetic when

[agile hazel]

we already held a funeral so...

[kindred fossil]

Turtle will return before Dismiss TS is a thing, trust me on this

[lilac bobcat]

Then there’s that dead birb that does nothing over by the Idk what it’s called

[slate shuttle]

Also gotta charge my android phone now bc I switched to an iPhone a week ago 😔 still wanna help tho

[kindred fossil]

It’s a sparrow, it used to be a quest also iirc

[lilac bobcat]

Why did they remove that quest?

[cobalt jacinth]

Imagine a trutle back instead of a cape and turtle shield patterns will show cape power

[kindred fossil]

No idea, it was before my time, way before global launch

[vapid briar]

it, and several other activities, were part of a system that was ultimately scrapped for a number of reasons. the primary one being that it did not work correctly/the way we envisioned.

[lilac bobcat]

But could there be a possibility for a future return with a similar system?

[vapid briar]

possibilities are always endless, it's the constraints that are a little more tricky.

[gleaming bronze]

Ktjn krilled the turtle for food, then tells us it was scraped. We see through your lies…

[cobalt jacinth]

I find it fascinating the turtle was a game asset that players found very entertaining regardless it didn't work as it was intended.

[lilac bobcat]

also speaking about Light Awaits, specifically to do with the details that used to be on some of the capes. Even though there are plenty of detailed capes now in Sky, why was those details removed?

[vapid briar]

https://tenor.com/view/dare-how-howdareyou-gif-9974891

turtles are my absolutely most favourite creature, I would never

[torn tulip]

Also, please one question, will you change (or have already) Abyss update a lot, or we will get on live the 0.16.0 build from beta?

[frosty trout]

Ktjn might have more details, but essentially they were very resource-intensive, even at the time when Sky was limited to only iOS devices

[gleaming bronze]

I bet it was.

[agile hazel]

Are they still resource intensive, would be cool for them to return at some point

[kindred fossil]

It basically wasn’t a fixed pattern on the cape, it was dynamic and would change based on friendships iirc

[frosty trout]

#live-feedback

[tropic radish]

Iirc, cape details were removed due to how the patterns worked back in Light Awaits
Maybe, just maybe, if they removed the whole reason and gimmick on why it was heating up people's phones (it changes as you have more friends), maybe it would work

[gentle tusk]

which quest was removed???

[hallow igloo]

Oh gosh there's the live update

[cobalt jacinth]

Since Sky is available on android it might bring many devices to their knees

[prime lintel]

If not straight up kill them

[steady ridge]

I have a question

[prime lintel]

Some of my friends on Android struggle with the game enough as is due to how much it’s trying to run

[azure helm]

time to lose tricks. rip swimming in water trial, rip spasm glitch

[steady ridge]

I can simply download the app when it's available or??

[kindred fossil]

Old Light Awaits quest system

[lilac bobcat]

Then yeet those iphone 6 and 7

[gentle tusk]

Oh i was scared thinking they removed some quest from abyss

[prime lintel]

Do you mean for beta? If you’re not already in the beta, you can’t join in until another invite wave comes up

If you’re talking about the update and are already in beta, it may take a while for it to show up

[drowsy fiber]

Read #beta-faq for details, short version: install testflight if you're on ios, tap the link in the invite wave, download Sky. Android might be lucky with slots opening in the play store in between.

[steady ridge]

Oh so this one for ios isn't an invite wave?

[inland hearth]

So sad about this!! Spasm is so hard without the big arrow button and I use it to oob and cr constantly. I left feedback about this, and then they made it even harder to do.

[lilac bobcat]

Is the live update live or is that coming soon?

[cobalt jacinth]

An update is not invite. Invites will be in #beta-invites

[drowsy fiber]

No, right now it's just an update, no invite wave.

[prime lintel]

Correct - it’s simply an update. Beta players will periodically receive updates to continue testing, but invite waves are different. Like tib said, the invites are sent in #beta-signup-info when available

[steady ridge]

Okay thanks the faq was a little confusing

[fair plume]

couldn't find it in the updates channel, so im asking this here: is the last quest for abyss out yet?

[manic panther]

invite waves are sent in their own dedicated channel

[desert token]

after enough areas with underwater sections have been added I wonder if we'll see an underwater wind path counterpart would be cool to have jet boost currents

[kindred fossil]

No, not yet

[gleaming bronze]

So a rip current

[desert token]

I was thinking of finding nemo turtles again

[fair plume]

oh also did tgc ever take away the seasonal candles from the glitch? i haven't been on beta in ages since apathy decided to make the sky fall

[prime lintel]

Imagine having a lazy river mechanic

Kind of like the floating island thing at home during the days of summer event

[strong sentinel]

I wonder if it's just me or someone else noticed
I feel like after today's update the movements when trying to land after flying feel so heavy and hard to control?? I keep slipping and missing ledges 🤔💦

[gleaming bronze]

Turtles were eaten, sorry. But sky’s own “EAC” sounds like it would rock 😎

[fair plume]

it's been like that since forever iirc, then again i haven't touched sky since december

[strong sentinel]

Well I am playing quite regularly so idk feels like my avatar gained twice of their weight pfft

[hallow igloo]

Hrm, it is a tad disheartening to read the known issues as they're immediately posted in live. I can only guess the deadlines were running up a bit too fast to patch everything like the colluseum oob

[strong sentinel]

I mostly just had a giggle because bird call bug made it into live 🤭

[kindred fossil]

The crow “call”? It has always been a bug, but for some reason its now mimicking calls of other creatures

[strong sentinel]

The spirit in bird nest?

[spark lance]

So when will the last seasonal quest comes?

[kindred fossil]

…I’m not sure which bug you’re referring to to begin with, is it this? #beta-screenshots-videos message

[cobalt jacinth]

!omgomgwhenbeta

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!

[broken bison]

We finally get the live patch update
But... Why we still not have the last tier 2 capes, black and white

[fair plume]

im pretty sure that it was said somewhere in the updates channel, but all i can remember is some time in january

[strong sentinel]

Like... Maybe? There's a spirit in Prairie's bird nest, the one leading to sanctuary, bird call. When you enter this location the spirits seems to be relieved already and it's like you only have to light the statue left after triggering the spirit

[kindred fossil]

That’s a different bug from what I mentioned then, still weird though

[strong sentinel]

Yeah. But now it's in live

[slim kayak]

there could be a number of factors as to why the tier 2 white and black capes aren't live yet. they might still be adjusting them or trying to come up with ways to make them stand out. what's most likely is that they had to be shelved for later due to things like events and seasons having more importance

[bold basin]

The metallic bug also came to live?

[broken bison]

I know they brought the first 3 tier 2 capes at the end of 2020
I dont remember excactly when they brought 4 tier 2 capes in near, was it during Assembly.
But.. cmon man! JUST TWO CAPES XD

I guess they will come at least on Spring.

[vapid briar]

Every time someone asks for the tier 2 black/white capes, we delay them by a day

[valid terrace]

what if I use reverse psychology 👀

[dire escarp]

That moment when there's an update,
" Google play requests 4gb of space to download"
Frees up 4gb of space
"Google play is pleased, downloading 2.04mb"

wat

(yeah I know patching and decompression against base game, but I found it funny)

[foggy orchid]

Hey I can’t update my beta? Like I go onto TestFlight and it’s not there but I still have the beta game? I’m confused :_: (do I go here for this help idk)

[kindred fossil]

Are you logged in into the correct Apple ID?

[strong sentinel]

Close app tab in application manager and start TestFlight again

[foggy orchid]

Yes

[foggy orchid]

Ok I’ll try that

[spark lance]

I hope the tier 2 black and white capes never make it to live!

[fading meadow]

just curious, what happened with the constellation updates on beta?

[fervent jacinth]

150 ❤️

[lyric kite]

They're still under development, I think one of the updates was causing crashing issues so it was reverted a bit. It will be a while before the updated constellation goes to live because it's not finished yet

[agile hazel]

It won't be out for a long time

[minor falcon]

voi's beta archive
0.16.0 (182692)
breath timer is now 60 seconds without rebreather mask

overall it has increased from 30 seconds to 45 seconds (182598) to now 60 seconds

don't mind me

[peak token]

skyfishkid is now buff

[twin isle]

Was the flight trail glow bug a bug bc it's in live?

Bc it's beautiful and hope it stays Lmao

[broken bison]

[carmine thorn]

We were even told in this chat by TGC staff to not expect the constellation update to hit live for a long time. (Iirc, they even stated 16.0 will definitely not have the update)

Think of it like Daily Light. We tested that in beta across two seasons of testing before it was even close to be ready for live release.

[dry light]

Idk where this is from but, does anyone understand what this means? It was in the patch notes
"In their travels, the rock discovered a brand new vista of floating islands. It seemed like this area was a haven for Light creatures, and the rock was happy to watch them dance through the sky. Whoever lived here must have loved the creatures a lot; they even crafted chimes so the wind could sing with the birds and mantas as they passed through."

[fading meadow]

i think it's a recurring joke lol- past patch notes have the rock™️ in their notes too

[fading meadow]

i didn't even know daily light took that long >< thanks for answering!

[sharp grove]

Maybe the rock has moved to the Wind Paths

[limpid crown]

You know, I don't really want the tier 2 black and white capes to come to live and I'm totally not using reverse psychology here... yeah... totally

[trail magnet]

I thought they are unlocking the final seasonal quest this time

[cosmic orchid]

Google is just worried that your phone's memory storage is too full with unnecessary junk

[dense holly]

Same..

I've only been saving for them for forever.. lol

[tropic radish]

Soon™

Just always be ready 👍

[analog citrus]

So in the live patch notes they talk about the lighting change messing up the Coliseum OOB. Yes that’s a problem but Is the weird lighting changes everywhere else intentional? I thought the lighting in general was bugged out. Like in Dreams Village, Vault and wherever there is water. But the Patch notes kinda make it seem like that’s how it is now and only the oob is bugged?

[timid bough]

i don't think any of the other lighting changes are intentional

[proud torrent]

anyone know where the boat to the seasonal area went? me and my friend can’t seem to find it anywhere in shipwreck:/

[gilded parrot]

I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback

[gilded basin]

i think the water is intentional but nothing else, it's just that starfield memorial is more focused on for its appearance so it gets pointed out specifically im gonna see if it only mentions sfm or if it implies other areas are bugged too
update: yeah it only mentions sfm i didnt know about the vault changes but surely whoever writes the patch notes mustve known about the village of dreams (and water if it's a bug) considering how often it got posted about

[gilded basin]

it's in the wasteland social area past the return shrine, it was changed months ago

[proud torrent]

oh alrighty:0 didn’t know that
thanks!

[delicate moth]

It was mentioned in updates like last month

Skybot even tells you with the right keywords

[scarlet moon]

Some people aren't active enough to be checking info all the time. Its ok to not know.

[sacred shadow]

hello I cleared all nodes with season of abyss but I can’t buy oxygen mask because one heart is missing… is this my own problem?

[lyric kite]

If you purchased the other stone mask from the Abyss Guide before it was removed, then yes you'll be short by one heart and unable to buy the rebreather mask

[sacred shadow]

oh thanks I checked bug report about it just now… maybe I just hope to tgc fix it or not… thank you a lot 🥲

[lyric kite]

It's probably not something that will be fixed because this is just beta and they don't necessarily need everyone to get everything, as long as enough people have it to get good testing data and feedback. They don't really do compensation for beta, but that's what the live game is for if you want the pass there

[hollow compass]

If you are implying someone should sell or give their account to you, please delete your comment.

[placid herald]

Hello ! Could anyone tell me how long is the new extended underwater breathing time after the last update ?

[hollow compass]

Please try it out for yourself and leave feedback, as per the update notes.

[placid herald]

The reason I asked is because I cannot play at the moment. I know it’s the only thing that has been changed.

[hollow compass]

Last I heard, when Ktjn asked in chat, it was 45 seconds. But I haven't had the time to check since this new update.

[placid herald]

Thank you, I’ll obviously check it out myself whenever I’ll be able to but it gives me an idea of the changement.

[hollow compass]

I'm also unsure what this means for Live, so we'll have to wait until Monday and see.

[harsh solar]

Hello! I have a question regarding Sky’s CNY celebration in beta. I know that the season of gratitude’s elders will come back and dance with us, but can we buy their cosmetics?

[placid herald]

Unfortunately no, they are not traveling spirits. Although you can play certain friendships emotes with them

[vital crystal]

Did thet remove the krill in the tower or was I at the wrong one

[spark lance]

It's now 60 seconds without the ult mask

[knotty shadow]

The krills come back after completing the 4th quest

[placid herald]

Oh jeez that’s a big change

Thank you very much

[proven yacht]

are there abyss infocards yet

[vital crystal]

Oh nvm I found them by restarting bit strange the inside had no krills at all

Hold up—was this breathing time tweak brought to live as well?

[hollow compass]

A late response, but this is actually addressed in the patch notes for the Live update.

[hollow compass]

We won’t know until Monday.

[vital crystal]

Oh it is already ~60 seconds in live !!

We can somehow trigger the breathing meter by doing faint or handstand on water... without learning the diving mechanic yet

[hollow compass]

Um, oh…

[cursive tinsel]

Really? Handstand just has me floating legs up and no breathing meter in both beta and live....did I miss an update?

Also I'm getting 70s of breathing time in beta without the rebreather mask, and 85s with the rebreather mask....

[hollow compass]

I’m at work and can’t test until later.

[vital crystal]

🤔 I'm on switch in live, android in beta. Both around 55-60 secs time.

[hollow compass]

How do you get the water breathing function to work in Live?

[vital crystal]

Just make your skid's head underwater. Sometimes the meter starts as well if you're just floating idly (then resets). Bit weird

[cosmic orchid]

ඞ

[pale junco]

Updoot

Ohh new update it's on playstore

Wait it was yesterday's update that i forgot to download

[molten panther]

Lol! All the beta bugs have been carried to live 🤦 Sometimes I wonder why is there even a beta version...

[eager harness]

The scramble of Grandma’s table from beta made it to live. It never works right.

[pale junco]

Dw they'll fix it in the next update 😌 and come up with more new bugs

[cosmic orchid]

never ending cycle of bugs and patches

[timid bough]

to test the new content and everything else

[cobalt jacinth]

Ktjn explained once so well that beta bugs come to live because they acknowledge them and most probably they might already have fix for them but they need to pack and send live updates for review a lot of time in advance because of long Nintendo update review periods.

[sullen relic]

Most surefire way I've found of doing it is to put a table underwater in a way such that you can still see the seat icons, so sitting down causes you to submerge yourself underwater -- the breath meter appears when that happens

[violet fjord]

Aaaaa I wanna get into new season area tooooo

[cosmic ivy]

I was like “oh, this cutscene again!” And then had the realizationHDHAHA

Gotcha

I took screenshots of before it happened, cuz the person who took me, yknow

So I hope, if something does happen, that’ll be enough

[drowsy fiber]

It's just 70 hours until it's in live and accessible for everyone

[drowsy fiber]

If you didn't do anything and did it by joining a friend or so, you should be fine 🙂 I doubt TGC wants to cause trouble to players who didn't do anything wrong.

[cosmic ivy]

I hope so…

Thank you for the reassurance; just a bit spooked

[molten panther]

Most of these bugs came to beta months ago. They didn't fix any of them. They instead chose to send them to the live version because... As usual, new content is more important than a clean, smooth experience... 😑

[sullen relic]

Not strictly in beta, but a quick heads up since we're the ones most likely to recognise it: the Days of Love Gondola spell is already available in the Forgotten Ark in live, so be careful about jumping to assumptions if you see anyone running around with it. Looks like they made it available in the weekly spell rotation a bit sooner than expected

[molten panther]

Sinking love boat. Got it. Tho we probably won't be able to notice them since they SINK! 🤣

[digital flame]

maybe they focused on other things.. tho there must be some other team in tgc who fixes bugs... But honestly, idk why there are always so many bugs in sky, never seen so much in other games. I just can't understand how totally unrelated things impact each other on the code side

[sullen relic]

Moth: "Holy crap, a submarine!"

[drowsy fiber]

We don't know why the bugs weren't fixed. There could be various reasons: it could be super hard to fix (imagine it would take two months to fix it, should the update be delayed until then?), the fix was available only after a deadline that absolutely has to be kept, the fix is not that important so other things were fixed first, they might just not know about the bug, the fix is there but tied to something coming in a later update... I'm not a game developper and even less working at TGC, so I don't know anything for sure, but I'm convinced there is a reason.

[timid bough]

keep in mind they were on holidays for 2 weeks, it definitely hasn't been "months"

[drowsy fiber]

Other topic: Is it just me or can we walk in quite deep water (where our head is completely under water)? Not sure if it changed before, happened to me just now... I am sure I used to swim in water this deep (and I never used a resize so can't be affected by that).

[molten panther]

If you scroll down a bit in the game reviews in app store... Most people say "It's a lovely game but I had to quit because of constant bugs". I think this should be a priority by now. 4-5 months in the game are all fun and games but after that bugs can't be ignored anymore and a lot of players quit.

[molten panther]

Yes, it has been months. I reported half of these bugs at the start of November.

[timid bough]

im counting from the last major content update for the season, which from then most bug fixing and polishing happens

[timid bough]

more or less major modifications of existing code starting from last year and now
it messes up a lot of things, one easy example is how mantas have collision now yet it gets stuck in areas due to obsolete pathing
you can use this example on other things, like timers for events, object physics, spirits etc.

[cobalt jacinth]

Well yes I understand your frustration. Valley ice rink water removed, grandma white candle got nerfed, juggler cape is grey, but chat bubble priority is unfixed, last season serious bugs are still unfixed, area transitions are still intensely bright even for not light sensitive users.
Let's hope they get fixed. Some fixes need months of work.

[timid bough]

atleast mali users aren't having graphical breakdowns i guess

[oak remnant]

Hello, is the new constellation currently in English for everyone? I play in French language, I am wondering if it is a bug or on going thing

[drowsy fiber]

Does the ingame screen recorder work for you? It shows me a message to log in to my google account in the settings, however I am already signed in... Restarting won't work...

[drowsy fiber]

New things are usually in english only at the beginning, it's the same for me.

[oak remnant]

Ok!

[cobalt jacinth]

In-game recorder has always been unreliable. You need to log in with Google play games app too. I recommend android 11 built in recorder or a third party app

[drowsy fiber]

Thank you, usually it at least tries to start or crashes...

[vapid kelp]

Heello

[opaque swan]

Should I reinstall beta

[junior remnant]

[pale junco]

Don't spam emojis please

[violet fjord]

I rlly wanna get beta tooo,im waiting for it to open

[pale junco]

Welcome to the server
Please read the #rules
You can head to #general-sky-discussion to chat with fellow players
@junior remnant

[pale junco]

Looking at #beta-signup-info it might not be anytime soon, Goodluck

You don't have ping roles so to get notified when there will be a invite please read #beta-faq and get the ping roles from there

[violet fjord]

Ooh okeh yeyy

[flint flower]

Help please...I would like to add photos to my beta report. I didnt' get the masks after completeing the quests

[viscid sundial]

If you've already sent your report you can't edit it. But you could send another one, it'll bring up a prompt to add attachments, just follow what it tells you to do

[desert token]

if you bought the previously existing cracked ultimate mask before it was removed you will not have sufficient seasonal hearts to get the last ultimate mask. that’s not a bug, just a product of the ultimate mask being removed

[pale junco]

What mask?

[flint flower]

underwater mask

[pale junco]

The 5th quest isn't available yet so you won't be able to buy the other mask

[flint flower]

i didn't get the first one

[pale junco]

You have to buy it with seasonal hearts

[flint flower]

there is the ultimate mask

and the not ulitmate

[viscid sundial]

I completely forgot about that too If you just now completed the available quests you won't be able to get the ultimate mask, since the last quest isn't available to us

[pale junco]

[viscid sundial]

I think they mean the ult rebreather + the IGC one?

[flint flower]

IGC

[viscid sundial]

You can't get it

[pale junco]

The one at the very top right?

[fast skiff]

if you mean the IGC mask at the top of the Quest Giver tree, that’s not available yet for anyone even after completing the existing seasonal quests.

[flint flower]

why the people I play with have mask

[viscid sundial]

It's locked behind the 5th quest atm

[pale junco]

It's the ultimate mask

[flint flower]

do you have an underwater mask? not ulitmate underwater

[fast skiff]

they may be wearing the ult mask

[flint flower]

not the ultimate mask

[fast skiff]

as I said, the in-game currency mask at the top isn’t available, so no one have access to it, but the ultimate reward only

[flint flower]

how could they have ultimate mask if they dont have 5th quest

[pale junco]

Here's a difference by voi
#beta-screenshots-videos message

And Here's the new updated ultimate by voi
#beta-screenshots-videos message

[fast skiff]

that’s not the ultimate and they shouldn’t have it yet. See the differences between both masks in the links Yash sent above.

[flint flower]

I dont have this mask

[pale junco]

If they are wearing the darker version with no "fin" like thing then report them

[pale junco]

Have you bought the seasonal hearts from the spirits?

[flint flower]

i am missing a heart

[viscid sundial]

Only the in-game currency mask is locked behind the 5th quest. To get the normal rebreather ult you have to fully complete the Abyss constellation + get the seasonal hearts from the spirits

[flint flower]

I completed the contellations

[fast skiff]

sounds like you bought the first ultimate mask that got removed. Please refer to Misty’s massage above

[pale junco]

Then as misty said earlier if you don't have a heart you won't be able to buy it

[flint flower]

so i wont get the mask ever?

[pale junco]

Yes

[fast skiff]

unfortunately no in Beta

[flint flower]

pfffffttttt

[pale junco]

Unless tgc makes it free like the assembly cape

[flint flower]

but i can still get the ultimate mask yes?

[pale junco]

The other one? Maybe

[flint flower]

so eventually i will have a mask...yes

[pale junco]

One of them, yes

[fast skiff]

the one at the top most likely, yes

[pale junco]

Next quest is in 10 days

[flint flower]

i will drown drown with no mask ever

[hollow compass]

No, you won't. It's a marginal difference in time with the mask.

[desert token]

without mask you will drown in 60 seconds, and lose wl after 2 minutes. the ultimate mask adds 15 seconds

[fast skiff]

you can perfectly swim and explore without any of the rebreathers, you’ll be more than fine

[flint flower]

omgosh, thank you thank you. you are all awesome for replying

I did send a report though

[pale junco]

It's ok

Why do i feel like 60 seconds is too much you almost get the same freedom as on the land

[raw wasp]

Its rlly all subjective

Something that feels too much for us might be a good amount for someone else

And its better when the most ppl are happy

[flint flower]

I am not such a good diver

[pale junco]

Can't complain because i did ask for a minute or two long timer in seasonal

[raw wasp]

Exactly 🌝

[pale junco]

Yes, i feel like it will help new divers a lot

[viscid sundial]

I think it might help those who are thalassophobic too!

[twin isle]

It'll also help people who are prone to panic with timers!! The extension will help a little even if the anxiety is still there.

[pale junco]

Does bringing friends still extend the timer? If so how much

[agile hazel]

smh portable batteries don't work anymore

[gilded basin]

can confirm, i love water but terrified of timers and having a minute of breath is much more relaxing than 30 seconds i'm gonna go exploring to see my exact feelings on it

[west cloud]

Having seen the foam in live, does that mean it wasn’t a bug? Personally I never really liked it since it looked unrealistic

[gilded basin]

i think it's just that it's on every body of water and not just the big ones like it looks fine in wasteland and sanctuary since it's spread thin but it looks bad in smaller bodies of water since 1) the seafoam layer looks really thick since there's nowhere for it to go and 2) they shouldnt have it in the first place

[limpid crown]

... i no longer see that one person who post 1 picture of the big birb in #beta-screenshots-videos everyday til it appears

[vital crystal]

bea?

[gentle tusk]

Is anyone having this issue where looks like clouds are shaking too much?

It looks like an earthquake, but soft

[gentle tusk]

#beta-screenshots-videos message

[gilded basin]

also my final verdict on the breath timer: it's perfect for making the trench and other dangerous/difficult to reach areas even more tense i never dropped below half breath in safer places but i nearly drowned down in the trench and the place you steal from in the 4th quest i think it's good balance between actually being able to explore and being dangerous, like an underwater shipwreck or boneyard

[west cloud]

Agreed it looks ok in seas but it looks bad in forest (especially the tree house) and in small lakes which turn nearly white from the foam

[gentle tusk]

Oh no, this is happening in live aswell ugh

[desert token]

is this still a thing? I haven’t seen the extreme white edges on the water in treehouse and such for several weeks. the oceans still have it but I think it looks good when you’re close to it. too far away and it just looks like outline

[sinful hill]

im hoping and praying they change the look of the ult mask before long or at least bring back the old design honestly version 2 looked way better than what we have now

[gentle tusk]

Can someone please tell me if you're having the same issue? i want to give some detailed feedback

[drowsy fiber]

Didn't notice it but maybe my screen is too small

[sinful hill]

ill check my beta out later and see if I have the same issue

[gentle tusk]

thank you! <3

[kindred fossil]

Bea moved on to post the turtle everyday, it seems their efforts were in vain as that is gone too 😔
The memes were the big bird turtle we made along the way

[cobalt jacinth]

I don't understand why does beta need force update whereas only breath timer was changed. It's stuck at 25% on my 140mbps connection and I am missing grandma because of this.

[kindred fossil]

No, only sounds of heartbeat and breathing when you’re “drowning”

I’d assume it’ll be the same as losing all WL on land

[desert token]

there’s a known issue with google doing that following an update even when compatibility is unchanged. if you scroll down in the pins of #android-questions you’ll find a troubleshooting method

[flint mist]

TYSM for telling me

[carmine thorn]

Samsung and OnePlus are two different manufacturers...

[gray forum]

Ay someone has the love boat in live??? How is that possible

[quaint grove]

spells

[terse quail]

probably hacks? the event isn’t in live yet

[fast skiff]

there are some spells in the ark shop a bit early

[fast skiff]

there are some spells in the ark shop a bit earlier than anticipated

[gray forum]

Ok thank you!!!!!!

[gray forum]

Thank you

[kindred fossil]

I nabbed some

[faint rose]

to the ark I go

[gray forum]

Get ‘em!!!!!!!

So what the early days of love spells a bug?

[valid terrace]

potentially ridiculous idea

posting offseason qg every day until they come back in some form

I kinda want to do that

[remote ocean]

You can try, Bea did it with the megabird

[worthy barn]

Megabird !!

[signal folio]

Was the new recharge animation supposed to go live because I thought it was a bug

[analog citrus]

With season of Flight I was encouraged that TGC was really trying to connect the disconnected and out of the way areas from the previous seasons. And the wind paths do help. Thought that maybe this theme would continue but now ONE SEASON LATER we get another disconnected area one step forward, two steps back.

[zinc gale]

Hi

[old zinc]

They did change its location from shipwreck to lobby though, precisely to make it more accessible. I like the connection but personally I hardly ever use it. So the fact that there's no other entrances to the new area doesn't really affect my gameplay experience

[gilded parrot]

@old zinc as was helpfully explained in #beta-announcements, that ship has sailed... to the Golden Wasteland social-space it moved there so it would be easier to find 😉

[analog citrus]

I just wish there was more flow between some of the new areas. The seasonal areas have a tenancy to be dead ends where you have to go home if you want to explore any further. And that, I feel, makes them more apt of be kinda barren after the season is over. The wind paths seemed to acknowledge that and also give nice shortcuts. But now Abyss is another dead end :(

[torn tulip]

What if season after Abyss gonna connect all water areas

[analog citrus]

Sky sewer system

[old zinc]

Hmmm yeah I see where you're coming from, it's just to me it's not an important requirement to have everything absolutely connected, specially seasonal areas that are a side addition to the main realms. But just as it's been done they could improve that connection in the future, maybe after a few more new areas get added? We don't know

[analog citrus]

When I explore in big groups it nice to just go go go and not have to get everybody back home together and reconnect to continue on

[old zinc]

I see, I don't find myself having to do that all that often, but definitely playing with a big group is always a bit of a hassle whatever the context is ^^

[analog citrus]

I thought the Dreams and Assembly areas were so nicely integrated. They felt like expansions of Forest and Valley. TLP area, not so much. But then the wind paths opened up more possibilities. Abyss seems like a step back.

[old zinc]

Totally, I use the different entrances from dreams and assembly almost on the daily because they're part of my cr route. I hardly ever go into starlight desert though unless it is for the winged light so again my usage of wind paths is definitely not the same

It all comes down to what each of us do because each of us has a different way of playing and spending time with our friends. I'd consider something to be a step back if it affected the majority of our community but I can still understand your disappointment ^^

[night roost]

;-;

[tacit sun]

an interesting idea: a large hubworld similar to the Aviary. it has paths to the main realms in Sky and also side areas to the entrance to Seasonal areas

[oak vigil]

And includes seasonal areas that the wind paths dont, such as the assembly tree house and the abyss island

Also, accessible directly from home space if possible

[tacit sun]

that too

since Sky’s expanding, itd be neat to see a better hub and entrances to seasonal areas and off areas

i mean we have the Switch area but who goes there?

[oak vigil]

I think the switch area is supposed to be like the office? Like it's just for fun?

[tacit sun]

yeah but its also partially a hub too

[oak vigil]

I've never been in the switch area 😅

[tacit sun]

fair point

[oak vigil]

I think the price of the capes is something that deters a lot of players, not to mention that you can only get them if you have a switch (which is already pretty expensive)

[agile hazel]

When was the switch area a hub? I thought it was just a few Nintendo related things for fun

[desert token]

I think wind paths is as close of an homage we will ever get to aviary - the main island is quite similar in structure, and it is consistent with the concept of connecting several realms. the boat dragged by a manta also feels like a nod to the earlier iterations of isle of dawn, where you would board a boat on route for aviary

[agile hazel]

Also there's really nothing inside the switch area, there's no incentive to get the pack unless you really want to

[frosty trout]

Thanks again to folks who have sent in feedback about the breath timer update that went in yesterday! Super appreciated!

[west pollen]

Question, I'm not a beta tester but wanted to ask for season of the abyss can you play music underwater?

[timid bough]

no playing under the sea under the sea 😔

[kindred fossil]

We used to be able to before, but I guess not anymore…

[torn tulip]

That would be amazing tho. Imagine regular sheets but with underwater sound filter. It might sound as enchanting as whales singing.

[torn tulip]

Did it sound in different way?

[cobalt jacinth]

Give it a go in #live-feedback or / and #wishlist-and-ideas-archived when the season starts in live

[kindred fossil]

I don’t remember exactly because I was using instruments for an exploit

[fluid quail]

I totally agree 🙉
tho hearing someone playing music when ur underwater might give the same vibe.
I wonder why this was fixed tho.

[lilac bobcat]

Me looking back here just in case beta has gotten the new season yet./j

Okay so since the seasons aren’t going in the order I had originally thought, I hope that the next season will be for the Isle of Dawn. I just feel that it gets the least amount of love since there’s no quests there or even candle cake dailies.

And noone really likes the air trial

[timid bough]

there is 2 cakes there not counting the prophecy caves

[lilac bobcat]

There is?

[timid bough]

yeh, one in the long spirit cave and another top of the cave with the two player door

[agile hazel]

Isle is staying bare since it's the tutorial area, doubt we'll get another Isle season for a while

[lilac bobcat]

It’s been a while since the season of Prophecy and like they could always make a separate tutorial area

Or expand home with a tutorial area but it could still fit with home

[agile hazel]

Isle has always been the tutorial area, it makes absolutely no sense to change that simply to add another seasonal area

[lilac bobcat]

Like there’s so many ways they could drop the tutorial aspect in the Isle of Dawn and make another area that can be a tutorial area. I just don’t really like how it’s so bare even for a tutorial realm

[spark lance]

the intro cutscene used to play before you enter isle iirc, or my memory's failing me 👁️

[desert token]

it will always play

[fluid quail]

isle could get another seasonal area, it's just the daily quests that we won't be having in it (moth territory).

there's already 2 season areas there, the small cave might not count but it is an addition, i see no problem in that as long as there's a gate that will prevent moths from entering and getting confused.

[lilac bobcat]

I think for a new season to fit with Isle of Dawn, a ship harbor would make the most sense.

cause it still would be out of the way for moths

[desert token]

might just be me but no more boats

[fluid quail]

wym misty, boats are everywhere 😂
it'll conquer sky land before we know it.

[carmine thorn]

Shh, they might read that and give us 3 boat transitions next time.

[lilac bobcat]

True. There are too many areas with boats, but like I can’t think of anything better for an Isle Season.

Unless they end up doing another underwater season

[hallow igloo]

In thinking a large pit in the ground or yet another rainbow bridge to the clouds

[desert token]

personally I prefer the bareness of isle. it’s not a place you’re meant to revisit every single day - dawn/birth shouldn’t be complicated imo. the prophecy caves are relatively okay because they feel quite consistent with the overall theme of isle. the prophets are teaching the younger spirits their knowledge, much as isle is a place of new beginnings. adding something on to isle just for the sake of “giving isle more love” doesn’t vibe with me since I just like isle as it is now

[fluid quail]

boats rn: why don't u love who I am

I only despise ark boat, it always bugs.

[spark lance]

and as for that, I agree that it should stay bare by default, but maybe perhaps as even more of a tutorial for seasons, more clouds could be added to hide distractions, and after a moth does their first eden run, the game directs them to to isle (perhaps with a season-like intro), and there could be a qg making you do a few quests similar to the weekly ones until those extra clouds entirely clear out, maybe even a past qg that has no permanent location

[lilac bobcat]

Wait a minute, I think adding in another underwater area, specifically for the isle of dawn could end up getting TGC to reintroduce some scrapped areas of the light awaits isle of dawn

[spark lance]

also @off for that msg sjdjf

[lilac bobcat]

I do hope that the next golden wasteland Season that they actually use old concepts this time.

[hallow igloo]

Oh, that's genius! Make a little section of beach where the water is a bit more inland, and put a seasonal entrance under the water. New moths wont see it or access it their first time through isle

[limpid crown]

Is there a new Beta Update? According to Google, there is a new update and the build num is 183091

I still remember I updated my beta yesterday... so I am confusion

[kindred fossil]

What are the update notes?

[limpid crown]

– Season Polish and Updates
– Bug Fixes and Improvements

[kindred fossil]

TestFlight is still build 182692

[limpid crown]

...are they supposed to be different on other platforms or they should be the same?

[kindred fossil]

Maybe they are on different build numbers

Because I see a couple of bug reports listed at 183091 from yesterday

[limpid crown]

Hmm... I see I see, so my play store being broken again

[wraith fractal]

There was a second android build, it doesn't have any different playe-facing content than the ios build, but does contain some backend stuff that we need to exist on a non-dev server to verify stability. Builds such as that don't warrant a new #beta-announcements post.

[spark lance]

oh megabird it took me a second to realize it was ktjn

[remote ocean]

There's two ktjn?? omg

[sullen relic]

"3 krill in a trenchcoat" is how ktjn's described -- we still haven't seen the third one

[whole plank]

I have a feeling that Ktjn will proliferate again...

[scarlet moon]

Maybe the next Isle season could be some kind of secret hatch in the sand that leads to the area, a bit similar to Assembly's entrance.

I also always found it weird that the Prophecy cave entrance has a realm entrance glow inside of it, but other seasonal areas don't do that, so it doesn't really make sense to me why it can't just be a dark cave.

[atomic hemlock]

are the scuba masks going to be in the AP?

not sure how i feel about masks only being available to people who purchase it (like me) when it affects a core game mechanic so much

[gentle tusk]

Does anyone have video footage of the manta cutscene when you gain your ability to dive? Please, i need it for a YT video

[oak remnant]

It is one of the ultimate gift, so yes. The other mask is supposed to be free. But tbh they do not affect much of the mechanics

[atomic hemlock]

there were 2 masks

[atomic hemlock]

Noob Mode has a recording!

[gentle tusk]

Thank you, i will check!

[mystic grove]

do the krills attack you in abyss

[mystic grove]

:( do they ever not attack you?

[atomic hemlock]

plays dead in the water

[oak remnant]

It works like how usual krill attacks, when you're out of their patrols you're safe

[mystic grove]

i wanna hang out with krills and my memory made a dumdum to make me think krills didnt attack

like

underwater krill that doesnt attack you? sounds super cool

if only

[trim spade]

There’s a blind one in the trench

It doesn’t attack

[junior bough]

Where is the light experience service?

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve

[sly arch]

Does anyone know what does the acquaintance button do in the constellation?

[sturdy thicket]

wait guys how much was the boat in the shop? for days of love

[sly arch]

You can see it in the patch notes

[sturdy thicket]

ah right sorry

thank you!

[fading terrace]

Hello, is there a feature during Days of Fortune where a friend can give you 10 regular candles that convert into seasonal ones? I found a vid about that but I lost it.

[sullen relic]

As far as I'm aware, that was a bug in beta -- it was the "5 hearts for 14 candles" function which was meant to appear there

[fading terrace]

Ah alright. Makes sense. During Days of Love then.

[sullen relic]

If it's not listed anywhere in the patch notes, then it likely won't be appearing in live (unless it comes as a bug)

[fading terrace]

I see I see. Thanks!

[arctic tide]

I met a player, he had 12 wings, is this normal? It’s mean he had more than 200 golden boy or 🔒

[jolly bear]

Definetely hack i think

[nocturne pond]

[languid bear]

Excuse me, anyone know Abyss' ultimate gift design in live will be as Beta's appearance is?

[kindred fossil]

We won’t know until Monday, but I would assume it is the same

[languid bear]

Ohh thanks

[west hinge]

so uh

who the heck thought it was a good idea to not let us play music while flying or being carried by someone flying

this was definitely here in beta, wasnt it

did no one say anything?

[desert token]

haven't seen any bug reports for it, nor have I experienced the issue myself. if you find a bug in the live version of the game it usually has nothing to do with lack of reports from testers; plenty of stuff makes it past beta because there simply isn't enough time or resources for the devs to find a fix

[agile hazel]

Maybe you should say something about it in #report-a-live-bug

[minor falcon]

I don't know what you're referring to as I just tested and you definitely can play music while flying, while holding hands with someone who's flying and while being carried by someone who's flying in both beta and live

could be a switch specific issue? as beta is mobile only and few testers use a controller those can slip by easily

[carmine thorn]

No issues here on Android in live and beta. I can try on Switch in live once I get off work... but it just shows how easily basic features being broken can slip under the rug when you're limited to strictly internal testing.

[north stone]

How many quests do we have in season of Abyss?

How many quests do we have in season of Abyss?

[harsh tundra]

5 and one that is still under development (unavailable)

[desert token]

the fifth quest is the one currently unavailable - fourth is the one with the megalodon

[hallow igloo]

I won't lie, I'm so curious as to how they're going to end this gripping finale!

Stay tuned until next week

[old zinc]

me too actually, I really liked the 4th quest so I'm really curious as to how it'll all be wrapped up

[hallow igloo]

Only partially joking here, but we need to go deeper, deeper. I'm talking heated thermal vents and deep sea darkness. And the appearance of that mysterious round mural that lies out of bounds

[old zinc]

I didn't actually see much oob in the new area, only slipped through some spots with the chibi mask but I dont remember much

[tropic radish]

(ping off)
I'm also suffering this glitch as well, but only when my skykid comes in contact with any water. This counts rain, standing in small specks of water, and floating/swimming in general

[cobalt jacinth]

This seems to have connection with playing instruments underwater has been removed.

[astral sinew]

Guys the old flight trails are back 🥺

Wait are the old flight trails supposed to be in live or is it a bug-

[desert token]

yea the golden flight trail returned with 0.16.0. we don’t know why it was removed in the first place or if it was even removed intentionally. neither do we know if it was added back by accident or not all you can do is leave feedback/bug reports depending on how you see it

[astral sinew]

Eh, I love it so I hope it's intentional lol

[desert token]

I like it outside of wasteland, vault and eden. the golden shinyness that covers your entire body is especially glowy in eden, and I know people already struggled going there without this addition if they are photosensitive

[twin isle]

I asked this as well yesterday!! I hope they stay tbh I knew they were in beta and made to live

[old zinc]

I tried it just now and it lets me play while floating/swimming, it only affects me when I'm under the rain

[desert token]

positive feedback is surprisingly easy to forget tbh, I always try to make a point of including some but when I elaborate on it I always feel like it’s useless gushing

[old zinc]

we should've praised the turtle a bit more /jk

[desert token]

I have pretty much one instrument on beta - and I almost never use it. I’ll have to go check this too though

[old zinc]

I checked with the ocarina, could it be different with a sit down instrument?

[desert token]

sit down instruments also don't work in the rain. in water without rain is fine - maybe it is that you can't play instruments while your cape is deteriorating

[old zinc]

so either polluted water or rain right?

not a normal puddle

[carmine thorn]

#beta-screenshots-videos message You used to be able to. Maybe it changed to prevent accidents like this.

[desert token]

just confirmed it's when your cape is degrading; two strangers were recharging me in the rain and I was able to pull my instrument out. as soon as my light started draining it made me close the menu

[jade idol]

I don't understand why we can't play instruments underwater anymore, some instruments sounds so good underwater

[desert token]

yeah I meant that I expect to be able to play instruments at all times, but right now no instrument is working while you are being damaged. the underwater instruments were removed because it allowed unlimited oxygen iirc

[old zinc]

are we sure it is to prevent those accidents to happen or is it bug report worthy?

[carmine thorn]

Since it's live, it would be a live bug report, but yes. If you feel it's a bug, report as a bug. Even if it's an intended change, it's good data for them to add these kinds of changes to the patch notes in the future.

[desert token]

we'll never know unless a dev mentions it in passing or something. personally I find it annoying since you (as the original person experienced) won't be able to play intsruments as a passenger in forest

[old zinc]

I cant seem to remember exactly what happens but as a passenger shouldnt you be recharged by your friend? or maybe you still get some draining

[desert token]

you're recharged by holding on to someone, but not without some damage every now and then. since the damage makes the instrument menu close entirely, it would be basically impossible to play unless someone is carrying an umbrella over you at all times

[old zinc]

I see, thank you for clarifying ^^ I wasnt too sure

yeah I guess looking at it that way it sounds like a bug to me, or something that needs refining

[desert token]

@stiff badge to answer your question here, that page seems to be for friends you haven't placed into any constellations. since this version of the friend constellation can display a lot more at the same time, there are more stars that can show than there are spots in the little constellations you can create

[stiff badge]

Awww tysm
Woww
Like you can place all your friends?

[drowsy fiber]

Not sure, but I think I heard it's limited to 120 or 130 at once, not sure though

[stiff badge]

Tysmm

[versed mountain]

beta testers spoil me, is there a bubble generator prop

MAN.

[old zinc]

would be cool, like the snow one or the lp star

[spark lance]

I was wishing for a more childish ver of underwater ride.. big bubble, we could enter and swim around until it pops.. lel

[worldly viper]

Я дед инсайд

[drowsy fiber]

Hello! Could you please speak english on this server, as moderators don't speak all languages? Thank you!

[strong sentinel]

I just want to see if it's intentional. We didn't get the idle wax farming in forest from beta in live version this time?

Idk about vault's fourth floor, was it added or not? if someone visited it today. I'm just curious 🤔💦

[minor falcon]

neither of them are active in the live build

[queen tendon]

Sooooo if we say you can keep them as we are so over them now…

[atomic hemlock]

hi guys i think i have the gift of prophecy. I made this post August of 2020

#wishlist-and-ideas-archived message

[high jewel]

When will the test suit open again?

[lilac solstice]

We have no idea. There is no set schedule for when beta opens for more testers. But you can get the beta invite role in #beta-faq so you'll be pinged when more slots open again.

[high jewel]

Oh, thank you, but I don't know how to operate it. I didn't find how to make it remind me.

[gilded basin]

it's this message #beta-faq message

[lilac solstice]

There are two reactions below this message. It says which one is invite ping, and which is update ping. You click the one that correlates to invite ping
#beta-faq message

It's this emote you need to click to get the role

[high jewel]

Thank you. I have found it.

[high jewel]

And thank you for your help，too

[glacial thorn]

[vagrant fable]

Excuse me, is there going to be a krill patrolling the surface of the seasonal area? And if so, is it a normal krill or is it blind?

[slim kayak]

no krill is blind but there are krill in the new season

[vagrant fable]

Yeah, in the tower underwater. I've seen it

[cosmic orchid]

idk why I imagined skykids on an aquarium with a airator lmao

[whole plank]

krill patrolling in front of the door where Leviathan came out after the fifth quest will not attack

[brazen wagon]

Hello, I want to ask when the beta version of iOS will be available.

[prime lintel]

We don't know! Beta invites open up every now and then, but there is no advance warning. You can learn more information about the beta program in #beta-faq

[brazen wagon]

Okay.Thank you

[grizzled prism]

Heloo how can I bee in beta guys

[oblique fractal]

#beta-faq

[languid bear]

I think the beta invitation wave will come soon. If not, never mind.

[oblique fractal]

We don't know for sure, and I don't think tgc knows either. Usually invite waves only come out when there's a shortage of testers or tgc kicked some testers out.

[languid bear]

Wait, TGC doesn't kick out random testers, right? They only kick out users who cause problems like hackers, right?

[oblique fractal]

They only kick out inactive ios testers and yes, hackers

[languid bear]

Ohhh Thank you. I'm relieved.

[hollow spruce]

Hello not sure if I can ask here, but I unlocked everything in my seasonal constellation and got 3 hearts total. I lost 1 heart after the update before this recent, I bought the ultimate mask (not the breather) before the they change it to cape and breather only. Not sure if it's a bug so I didn't report it yet. And I finished my constellation before raising this question I wonder if there's a solution to this

[idle cloak]

I haven't played beta these past few weeks and I was wondering, where can I see the king krill? 👀

[spark lance]

king krill lives in the abyss, waiting for those who find him

[rapid axle]

please bring back the black ultimate reward mask for abyss

😭😭

[pulsar blade]

Kinda ask if the dragon fish will stay white or return to gold when in live tommorrow (possibilities)

[languid ocean]

What happened to the bonfire inside the valley maze? Why wasnt it added to live along the past updates? Is it scrapped?

[pale junco]

It was removed in 0.15.5

[spark lance]

Players who got the scrapped ultimate mask first are unable to get either of the current ultimates, sadly.

[hollow spruce]

Bye bye 1 seasonal heart you'll be missed

[hollow spruce]

I was so confused because I had to re do the spirit tree too, no sc refund or something happened let's just hope it won't happen in live

[kindred fossil]

Re-do the spirit tree?

Something like this won’t happen in live

[spark lance]

Nah, when it's live it's (probably) final

[hollow spruce]

Yes yes, I finished 2 spirit tree, bought the scrapped mask, update happened, poof mask welcome back stuff in spirit tree like I gathered AC again for the emote though I already unlocked them and the gifts on the left side of the tree

[kindred fossil]

Tree reshuffling would be a result of having to unlock items/blessings again

Unfortunately no compensation is issued in beta (unless it hinders testing) it’s a cautionary tale to hold onto your seasonal hearts until the last finalized builds in beta if you desire the ultimate rewards

[hollow spruce]

I didn't report because I thought I can still retrieve my seasonal heart but I just finished the constellation earlier but I only got 3 sc in total. Error on my part too

[hollow spruce]

Yea, lesson learned to gather all AC and spend on the last day. I was aiming to test the ultimate mask and compare it on the seasonal quest mask

[kindred fossil]

A few exceptions were made regarding the no-compensation rule, but it’s not always guaranteed

[gray quarry]

I really dislike the season guides selling things for in game currency, and I also don’t think it looks good to have more than 2 ults. But oh well it is what it is

[steady flume]

i don't mind if the guides sell things for igc as long as the item stays available after the season ends (just like assembly guide). getting the sword pants was stressful since you had to do so before the season ended, but that's just how it is with copyright

[hollow compass]

Sword pants cost was in the patch notes for the season update, so it wasn't exactly a surprise in that sense. But hopefully this IGC mask will not be as expensive. Hang on, was it even mentioned in the patch notes this time...? I forgot to check.

[steady flume]

wait now that I think about it-
has it been confirmed that the igc rebreather will stay in the abyss guide's tree once the season ends?

[hollow compass]

It's not even in the patch notes for the Live game, so...

[kindred fossil]

I feel it would? Sword pants did not stay due to being a licensed item

[spark lance]

Maybe it'll be mentioned in the next update patch notes before we get to the last quest

[hollow compass]

I agree. But then again, we don't even know what the last quest is yet.

[sly arch]

Update, finally know what does the acquaintance button do. It’s just my fault for having too many friends group and having a device with a large screen

Now… the only problem is gonna be show that on a Switch Docked

[twin moat]

How to enter the big aquarium in THE ABYSS?

[hollow compass]

I saw your question in QnH. So if you are trying to do this in Live, please stop. I don't know how you got into the area, but it's against the ToS to enter something that hasn't been released yet.

[languid bear]

I heard rumors that someone leaked the beta invite link(android ver) before the official beta invitation wave came in the latest invitation... Does anyone know the rumor is true or not? I'm worried if such a leak occurs in the next wave.

[kindred fossil]

Never heard of such a thing, it’s possible to enter beta on Android once someone opts out, no invite needed

[old zinc]

heya, from the whole connection conversation from some time ago, and the fact that some people appreciate a more integrated new area into the already existent maps. I kinda thought of dreams as an example instead of wind paths and maybe just to have more entrances would give players a wider range of options. I totally support that they moved the boat to wasteland lobby, but maybe adding another one where it initially was? what do y'all think?

[hallow igloo]

You're talking about multiple entrances into the seasonal area? I mean, they did do that for assembly, though I think that might decrease the possible entrances of future seasonal maps. Maybe depending on the context of the season though!

[old zinc]

not multiple, just that other one

[kindred fossil]

Yeah, it would also be handy to enter Wasteland through the exit back to crab fields/shipwreck, instead of going Home, then entering the realm portal, then falling through the whirlpool, then…