beta-discussion

[spark lance]

The android 9 issue has been fiiiixed 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃

THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE WHO REPORTED AND THE DEVS WHO TOOK THE TIME TO FIX IT
I LOVE YOU ALL 💞💞💞💞💞

[torn girder]

my testflight is being buggy(maybe it will be okay tmr?), if i delete and download it again will my beta disappear?

[stuck rose]

I checked my testflight and i cant even open app

[opaque wyvern]

I have to thank TGC for fixing the problem hopefully it is not going to happen in global nwn <3

[gentle tusk]

Guys i think tgc is fixing mobile graphics on some phones, you know those clouds on that montain with view to the sun in the valley? They usually look like squares, but in beta they look normal, as they should, also it looks like beta has more resolution than live, i'm gonna send comparisons in the #beta-screenshots-videos

[slim kayak]

ah yeah, they turned off anti aliasing on android after some phones started crashing. i did notice that they turned it back on, so hopefully its here to stay

which reminds me, i need to run eden again. it looks... really bad with aa turned off. hopefully its better now

[gentle tusk]

Ohhh so the eden clouds became that white because of that or was that intentional? Because i remember eden clouds being really dark red

[spice mason]

I don't think the anti aliasing was causing the crashing to begin with. To be honest. i wonder what was....

[gentle tusk]

Tbh, i don't like how white/grey the eden clouds look rn

[slim kayak]

the color i'm not sure. but anything that looks pixelated (waterfalls, the fog in wasteland, the clouds in hermit valley, the stars during ascent) is caused by the lack of anti aliasing

[gentle tusk]

Oh, ty! :3

I hope this returns to live as soon as possible, i don't like those blurried/pixelated things

[slim kayak]

they had turned off anti aliasing during sanctuary since a lot of androids couldn't even enter the area, and a lot of them had issues with screenshots. they turned it on again after a few months... and then turned it off as a hotfix when android started crashing again. the graphics are too intense

of course, there could be other factors, but a lot of it had to do with the graphics

[gentle tusk]

Also i've noticed that the android crashing issue got fixed (that bug when you put sky on second plan apps, or try to open any pop up on your screen would cause the game to freeze and just crash)

I couldn't even record videos, because my phone required a pop up message asking if im okay with recording because i can record personal stuff and etc

But today i managed to record 4 videos without crashing/freezing, and i've also put sky on second plan apps and opened it again

It worked just fine :D

[remote ocean]

To know that it's being fixed in Beta brings me hope maybe my phone will fix too when that patch arrives I can't take in-game screenshots, see textures right or change app ever since the LP part 2 patch update and I really miss it
(Yes, I reported!)

[gentle tusk]

:D

[desert token]

portrait mode enthusiasts: is it normal/expected for graphics to decrease in quality in comparison to the normal layout? I don’t remember having any significant graphical changes going from tilted to portrait when I last tried it out, but admittedly that was quite a long while ago (my portrait mode flying is probably worse than my capeless flying ) boosted def in portrait mode looks aprox equivalent to battery saving graphics for me when I play with normal tilt at the moment

[kindred fossil]

Certain it’s been that way from the beginning, in my experience at least, screenshot/recording quality is not that good either

[iron geyser]

Same for me except that when I take screenshots or record videos through the in-game recorder they come out fine.

[desert token]

I’m gonna dig through my camera roll and see if I can find any old footage to compare. I might just have forgotten quality was bad since I hardly ever screenrecord over using the in-game camera

only found old pictures, no recordings. in any case, seems like I don’t need to worry about documenting this or anything

[fiery glacier]

Can I be tester so I can make a vid for my YouTube channel?

[slim kayak]

Unfortunately, tgc doesn't let players into beta for special circumstances. You would have to get in through an invite wave like everyone else. Make sure to read #beta-faq for more

[fiery glacier]

Oh ok

Thank you

[lyric sleet]

adding and finding a new friend in new consolation is a new problem to me .. had a tough time with zoom in & out .. i feel zoom in & out are not so eyes friendly .. clubbing friends and consolation button is a smart move however considering this merge is still in development, implementation & presentation of this needs a better executive to be more user friendly ..

[nova cloak]

[edgy zinc]

Did the time for grandma to come changed?

[sleek pelican]

Yes since DST ended. Now using PST time.

[edgy zinc]

To when?

[sleek pelican]

Around an hour from this question

[edgy zinc]

So the next grandma appearance is in 7:30?

[cobalt jacinth]

It depends on your timezone and dst, reset happens on <t:1636358400:t> , grandma is every 2 hours at _:30

[trim spade]

Where is today’s dailies spirit at?

[gilded parrot]

Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience

[trim spade]

15 min after geyser

[spark lance]

wait daylight savings ended today?

time really goes fast…

[gentle tusk]

?

I didn't understand that

[hoary goblet]

Daylight saving time (DST), also known as daylight savings time or daylight time (United States, Canada, and Australia), and summer time (United Kingdom, European Union, and some other countries), is the practice of advancing clocks (typically by one hour) during warmer months so that darkness falls at a later clock time. The typical implementation of DST is to set clocks forward by one hour in the spring ("spring forward") and set clocks back by one hour in autumn ("fall back") to return to standard time. As a result, there is one 23-hour day in late winter or early spring and one 25-hour day in the autumn.

And read this,
#questions-and-help message

[gentle tusk]

Oh, we call it "Horário de Verão" (Summer Time), but it no longer exists on our country

[agile hazel]

Now that it's been over two weeks, I'm curious to know if any of you have gotten used to the new constellation UI

[slim kayak]

I uh... try to avoid using it honestly. It makes me dizzy whenever I'm lighting a lot of friends

[kindred fossil]

It’s easier to use in portrait mode (iOS), otherwise… no

[drowsy fiber]

I somehow like it. The camera movements are still a bit too much in my opinion and I dislike the split between spirits and friends (and don't mention the solar system when near me, I don't want our friends to be degraded to planetoids if they aren't favourites. Multistar systems with 50 stars don't exist, TGC! And even if they did, what's in the center? A supermassive black hole? Really looking forward to spaghettified friends then). The icon for the friends is nicer in the old constellation, but they said layout comes later, so... I love how we can look around by swiping and how we have constellations though. Really.

[visual temple]

Not really, no. I get this “ugh” reaction every day when it’s time to interact with it.
It isn’t controller friendly (with dots sitting on lines for example), everything is so impersonal, so far away and tiny…. I can barely make things out, forget about who’s lit or not, who’s online or not…

I keep wanting to use R1-L1 to move from one constellation to another, but it sends you into spirit constellation instead. When I go back to Live it’s a huge relief to interact with the old constellation (aside from a few issues with it)

[elfin raft]

I still don't know how to edit constellations or add friends..

[kindred fossil]

I’m not the type to group friends, so I don’t like it

[hollow compass]

If it's not obvious, that's really important feedback for the devs.
I personally don't like the new design either. As others have said, I just get tired looking at it.

[desert token]

something I noticed just recently about it is that your ”ungrouped” friends are those that appear first flying solo in eden now. will petition for it to be those in the “crown” again

[manic panther]

im surprised its the randos that show up in little handhold groups. imagine if it made those the friend constellations

[mighty palm]

May I ask, how long will granma stay there and serving food for us? Cuz I never count the time

[agile hazel]

iirc it's for 5 mins

[mighty palm]

Thank you

[glacial barn]

Still the same as when I first interacted with it.

Seems easier to use with touch screen than the live version (and I much prefer playing with controller). I don't tap out of the constellation accidentally as frequently as I do in live.

For controller on the other hand, it is a lot slower. Using the bumpers to switch between spirits/friends leads to a lot of accidental switches which slows down the whole process. Somehow the joystick navigation feels slower and less precise as well. Plus the camera whipping around... It's not great in live, but it does give me a bit of a headache

But anyways ^^;

[woven sinew]

I feel depressed when thinking how my future sending lights to friends will be. I have more than 150 active friends and the new constellations may need so many taps and confusions.

[hollow compass]

I find that accurately tapping the light button is harder in this new version. I often seem to close the interaction instead.

[kindred fossil]

If you are iOS, try interacting with the solar constellation in portrait mode, I find it a lot easier that way since I can view everyone at once & the camera pan is less intense, no more confusion due to the zoom. Shows that it’s rather unnecessary/needs improvement 😟

[shadow plank]

Does anyone know when the new season will come?😥

[slim kayak]

!omgomgwhenbeta

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!

[carmine thorn]

When they're ready to have it tested. It could be tomorrow, it could be after the season ends in live. (Dec 20th) No one will know when it starts. until #beta-announcements tells us

[shadow plank]

OK, I see, thank you!

[manic panther]

plus, the current season still doesn't even end until December

[shadow plank]

All right.

[idle berry]

早啊

[eager harness]

Can you please speak English in this server.

[idle berry]

ok

[grand kernel]

When do you guys think tier 2 black and white capes will be released in live?

[charred sable]

Hopefully soon

[alpine field]

Soon™️

[spark lance]

where's the northern lights!

[gilded parrot]

Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions

[leaden oak]

i have a feeling that next beta update will contain new season. hopefully

[spark lance]

did they remove it?

[alpine field]

Maybe?? Days of Feast is over so maybe the northern light went with it on vacation

[spark lance]

weird that no one talked about it LMAO ill miss the northern lights

[inner shoal]

[knotty dagger]

wait whatttt

they removed aurora ??

[slim kayak]

it was part of days of feast, and since testing is over for days of feast, the aurora is gone now

[spark lance]

0¬0 this is the new chibi mask aand i cant see it any other way now

[fluid quail]

pings off
I felt like sharing my feedback that I alrdy submitted and it was 29837474737 lines long, I use controllers (really recommend) and the constellation is simply much better in so many major problems I was having, can't wait for more updates on it, and for it to come to live.. I just dun wanna use live constellation anymore after this.

note: the rollercoaster so called solar system is goin to have designe changes according to patch notes v0.15.5 build 178925

[gentle tusk]

Poor devs trying to read that feedback

[cobalt jacinth]

Well, we still need a lot of updates (based on the many feedback) to test on constellation. Therefore I’m not sure. The next seasons are usually tested some weeks before season end in live. It would be early now, but we will see. (Ping off)

[gentle tusk]

In their words, that is the first version of the new constellation UI and yes, they will change it, it's like a prototype

[spark lance]

We'll see the next season, just keep your patience like the season of flight first testing

[tropic radish]

Take this with a grain of salt, but I think the devs do like to read very long feedbacks as long as they're on point

[cobalt jacinth]

As many times mentioned by Sky staff here, short and on point feedbacks have the same value to them (if not more) than wall of texts

[gentle tusk]

TGC: Tries to fix eyes for chibi SkyKids, breaks taller SkyKids
TGC: Tries to fix eyes for taller skykids, breaks chibi eyes
TGC: Tries to fix eyes for chibi SkyKids, breaks taller SkyKids

I can feel the pain on the devs

[quick harbor]

At this point, remove le eyes

[agile hazel]

If we can't see the krills, they can't see us

[shy ore]

It's been 1 week that Grandma is gone but no BETA AP preorders update. Bored to be waitin for fun thou.

[steady falcon]

Where is Eye of Eden ?

[gilded parrot]

I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback

[unreal lichen]

Chibi be like ⚪ ⚪

[sage linden]

Someone called this period the November Wasteland

[trim spade]

November wasteland

[kindred fossil]

The AP pre-order is not coming any time soon

[clever spoke]

whats the next season after flight?

[kindred fossil]

We don’t know yet & we won’t know for quite some time. It’ll be announced in #beta-announcements once it’s ready for testing

[kindred fossil]

I know that seasons are tested whenever the devs see fit & that there’s no set schedule or pattern, but don’t expect anything until at least a teaser has been shown in #news, Flight is still underway

[valid terrace]

november of nothing

[agile hazel]

Yeah, I think Flight being teased early during LP was a one-off

[little robin]

I think it's a two off actually? I remember people saying LP was being teased weirdly early during assembly

[kindred fossil]

My point is not about the teaser release time, that’s irrelevant

[trim spade]

In my experience, new season testing in beta starts about 2 weeks before the previous season ends in live

[slim kayak]

ah, that applies only when invites are active. currently, beta is closed, so you have to wait for the next invite wave to get in.

[fallow delta]

Have you guys got an idea for new cosmetics for the next days of? Is it days of feast or smn?

[cobalt jacinth]

!omgomgwhatbeta - No one knows what will happen in beta. Keep an eye out on #beta-announcements for upcoming updates!

[slim kayak]

!omgomgwhenbeta for future reference

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!

[kindred fossil]

Whenbeta this, whatbeta that, but they never ask howbeta is doing 😔

[cobalt jacinth]

see the question. It was about what not when, this is why I made up this command for fun

[carmine thorn]

Beta is living off a wing and a prayer.

[eager harness]

I just want to say that, please remember the devs and TGC are doing their best. They shouldn’t be rushed or made to feel inadequate. Patience is a virtue and that should always be taken into consideration. It takes A LOT of time to create content. It’s not an overnight affair. Content can’t just be spit out. Please respect that and give them the needed time. They want our experiences to be the best they can be.

[quick harbor]

Why's everyone so pressed about when the next season is coming

[runic summit]

ive wanted to join beta for a while but the android one never seems open :') rip

[quick harbor]

Do yall not have better things to worry abt, like
How our dad leave us, and grades and stuff. Just life

I'm deeply suggesting just doing something else meanwhile the devs are still working until anything is posted in updates

[gilded talon]

Nobody’s pressing or rushing anything tho People just are curious that’s all

[hoary goblet]

Android and ios invites come out at the same time Both tend to go within an hour tho yea, at least the last one did

[carmine thorn]

It happens every midpoint of every live season since the dawn of time. People ask when testing of the new season will start and the answer from beta testers is always the same:

[gilded basin]

the pain of seeing people ask about the next season when the current one isn't even halfway over yet 😔

[agile hazel]

The real question should be: longer off season break when?

[sick pendant]

TGC gotta make money to pay their bills so imo we either will get a constant flow of IAPs (through seasons, events etc) or the prices must increase

In fact I believe as the time passes new IAPs will be added much more frequently

[sage linden]

I don't mind shorter season breaks I be craving them cosmetics

[sick pendant]

I'm getting burned out so I decided to skip some seasons

I skipped dreams and little prince and am doing the bare minimum in flight
(yes I bought AP for assembly. Yes I regret choosing it over dreams)

[carmine thorn]

I'm just glad we were able to have 2 weeks of leeway this time. I already took a one week break during this season and don't have to sweat losing any days since I still can miss up to 8 more... I hope we get a longer break this lull between seasons. I mean we have feast, fortune and love coming here in a few months for any income to not rely on APs.

[analog citrus]

New seasons gonna come. Gotta make some $$. I’m just hoping we can still get some more of those “quality of life” improvements they said they were focusing on in this announcement #news message I haven’t seen much of that in the beta updates lately. Actually Right now beta has some serious new bugs with the new constellation and inability to send hearts to some friends.

[timid bough]

constellation isn't gonna change in live any time soon

[analog citrus]

So they say. But it just added new bugs and it feels like they again are focusing on the new without fixing the old stuff that’s still buggy. Like come on can we at least get that stoopid candle cake out of the snow pile at the end of Valley.

[drowsy fiber]

It is not even necessarily the same person that repairs the candle cake that also makes the new constellation or the new season or event.
Also, sorry for asking because its probably a stupid question, but which cake?

[agile hazel]

The daily cake on the right side of coliseum

[manic panther]

its half-inside a slope so you cant light it very well

[timid bough]

UI reworks is a form of improvement/bug fix... especially when they planned for this for a very long time
it may not look good now but it isn't some half-baked unimportant content

[velvet trellis]

Hi, anybody here experiencing server error at the start of the game?

[analog citrus]

The UI changes have not been any sort of improvement in my opinion. I understand they had to make changes for switch but it’s come at the expense of bugs. Just like when Android came on board. I don’t want them to stop doing the big things but it just seems like the little things get overlooked

[sage linden]

I think the live constellation is more practical and somehow easier to light people there. I think an improvement would be lighting someone with one tap instead of two (one tap for summoning + one tap to light their candle) if we can tap people one time to light them up, that would be great

[manic panther]

i still stand by a toggle 'tap to light' mode

[analog citrus]

The new constellation UI I’m sure will get better but yeah. Less taps the better. As far a overall UI goes I’d just like some old things back. Like being able to take an in game screenshot with the emote menu open without some janky workarounds. Better tap regions so that when I tap a candle to light it lights instead of making me honk. And the camera controls

[manic panther]

the current ui looks good but i want the little stars from live to stay
the pure white circles feel very out of place
although it also might just be placeholder graphics for now and they intend to change it later

also the option to take clean screenshots on switch? the UI and any interaction icons on screen are always in my screenies

[gilded talon]

There’s no way as for now but this is more a live question so better fit to ask in #questions-and-help

[gusty haven]

don't forget to write your dreams and sudgestions in #beta-feedback

[rare carbon]

Current layout of friend constellation is good. but still need some size patch cus its honking smol on phone

and I want the friend icon to be that former stars. That made us feel looking at real constellation

also the spinning circle of online status around friend star was VERY GOOD So I gave feedback about giving friend star of former constellation back, but overall layout remains same

how do you think of this?? I'm gonna make some edits for this later

[slim kayak]

i have a feeling the circles are placeholders, since the new constellation layout is very very early into testing, so i can see them adjusting the look of the stars later on. the layout of the friend constellation is nice, but zooming into the bigger constellation (the little solar system of stars) makes it very very hard for me to find anyone. I also feel like the new layout of the realm constellations feels unnecessary? there really is no need to zoom in with the realm constellations

although my biggest issue is still the camera pan, which i have sent into feedback already

[rare carbon]

camera moving is kinda dizzy right

[spark lance]

Little things like zoom adjustments and tap to light toggle would fix things but I just want another UI than live.

Im usually easy going with this stuff, but even though I've adapted to it, the current live constellation UI is Sky's biggest, outdated flaw

the aesthetic icons can come later, I'm just so ready to be rid of what we've got now 💀

[rare carbon]

I uploaded my edit on #beta-screenshots-videos

sorry for bad english... english is my second language and its still hard for me

[spark lance]

The reason why the zoom is so tedious is because tgc kept the movement where we see the friend we tap on descend from the sky.

If they made it so that we can tap their name to light them via toggle instead of call them everytime, It'd make a world of difference

Also nice edit @rare carbon

[rare carbon]

ey thanks uwu
I agree in that toggle thing. but i still want to see my friends on my constellation... so maybe calling friend can remain, but not nessesary for giving gift

[spark lance]

Of course yeah. We'll keep the calling friend animation to give hearts, warp to them, etc. But just have it not be necessary to give a light

[carmine thorn]

IIRC, they want us to see our friends when we light their star. I just wish they could find a better way to load the friend's avatar if that's what they wish to do. I don't know one person who let's their friend even hit the ground in live currently. It's spam light and back out before the camera pan makes you dizzy as is in live. (I got into a rhythm on Switch. I don't even see they're skykid load in at all, now... Which defeats the purpose of keeping it in. )

[narrow lake]

maybe you could select a friend and then swipe left/right (R/L on controllers) to cycle between friends in a constellation? that way you still see them and there's no weird camera jump

[lilac sphinx]

If i may inquire about the drastic change to the constellation, when will that be implemented into the live version?

[timid basalt]

probably not anytime soon since it was mentioned that its still early in development

[lilac sphinx]

Thank you!

[chrome ivy]

Do you guys think the second constellation looks like Slik Flower from Genshin?

[vapid briar]

perhaps they should sprout from the ground like plants instead of fall from the sky like stars

Really though, this is just the very first stable iteration of the constellation overhaul, we plan to have this exist on beta for many months to try different things and collect feedback and make improvements to keep the part of the experience we feel is most important while alleviating the pain points.

[faint rose]

Finally, Ground: Children of the Plants

[misty bone]

not zombie plants? wwww

[sullen relic]

You guys have already animated that with the crab hat, so it shouldn't be too much extra work to have our friends jumping out of the ground every time we select them

[pale junco]

Imagine friends yeeting out of ground when they teleport to you

[carmine thorn]

Imagine if we just see their avatar floating in the constellation, instead of watching them descend.

[vapid briar]

I can imagine that making smol screens scream, but that does remind me when the constellation UI was bugged with that one hair icon.

Making that happen would likely be a networking hellscape. If memory serves, the time that it takes to make the animation of your friends descending from the sky allows for the client to communicate with the servers to query what your friend's outfit was when they last logged in and populates that set to your device. But I might be thinking of something else, so don't take that tidbit as fact.

[sage linden]

That's actually smart, using a small animation for the phone to load the friend instead of a loading icon, noiceee

[vapid briar]

Which also reminds me of a very neat article about "hidden game design" that might blow some folks minds.

The opening sequence where you zoom across the water ending up with your skykid in home is definitely a clever disguise for loading assets and network information.

fade transitions hide wonky repositioning of avatars for cutscenes.

[sage linden]

Hidden game designs are my fave thingy, some of them end up being iconic to the game, like the fog in silent hill that was made to help the ps1 load the map

[hollow compass]

So what is the zoom in on the Home shrine "hiding"?

[sage linden]

Loading assets and terrain, I presume

[hollow compass]

But why? It wasn't there before. It only started when the quests moved to the shrine.

[pale junco]

Probably nothing it's just to tell players to go to the shrine so they don't get confused

[sage linden]

Ah that one is to show new players where to get their quests

[hollow compass]

Yes, I know. Which is why it should now be removed, since the feature has been established as moved.

[sullen relic]

I don't think the shrine zoom itself is meant to hide anything, because if it was, then it doesn't make as much sense to disable it after you've already completed the quests when you login again

[sleek pelican]

claim or get haunted

[pale junco]

Everything is loaded on the screen

[sage linden]

There's always new players who start playing everyday, i think it would always help

[hollow compass]

But there was never a zoom in on the quest giver before when the quests were held by them.

[pale junco]

One thing you can see loading (or its what i think it's doing) is the closests when you teleport home and you are quick enough to turn your camera towards the closest you can see the murals lighting up, most noticeable at night.

[hollow compass]

Basically, the shrine zoom is there to remind older players that the quests have moved from the quest giver. Newer players wouldn't know this anyway, so they don't need this dizzying feature. Hopefully it will be removed soon.

[vapid briar]

This isn't comprehensive by any means, but is a good start point https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2017/9/8/16263050/game-design-magic-tricks

[vapid briar]

We noticed a lot of average players (the type that aren't in community spaces, or follow the game on social or look things up on youtube or fan sites) didn't really participate in daily quests or interact with the QG so the change with cutscene and making the quest pickup spot be in a fixed spot right in the center of your view when you load in is in hopes to get folks interacting with those systems. We agree that for the more seasoned moths it can be tedious and are working on making that experience better for the "regulars" It helps make sky more approachable. It's easy to forget that not all knowledge is universal and some folks deeply benefit from those extra hints and nudges.

[carmine thorn]

Maybe a simple if/else? if player hasn't done dailies in x days, show cutscene, else continue

[vapid briar]

as big as the discord server is, 350k people is a tiny, tiny fraction of the entire playerbase.

[hollow compass]

I understand that, absolutely. But it's a very unpleasant visual. I think it could have been done in a different way. Perhaps have the shrine light up in some way.
To clarify, I literally have to look away from the screen as it happens.

[sullen relic]

Was a menu option to turn off certain cutscenes like that ever brought up? It definitely seems like a useful hint for people who either aren't familiar with the game or may have forgotten, but that's a simple solution I often see in other games for people to customise how often they're getting hints/reminders from the game (or maybe even a skip button, those have been fairly useful as of late)

[vapid briar]

knowing how that stuff is built in our engine, it's not just a quick toggle to turn it off.

[hollow compass]

That is unfortunate.

[unreal lichen]

The issue with shrine is that there is too much going on and too many icons piled up. The return icon, always multiple boat messages. AP owners have the candle to collect and then the ! for quests.

[vapid briar]

and building a "quick toggle" would likely mean we'd need to rebuild massive portions of the engine and the game and could easily take more than a year to implement.

[carmine thorn]

flashbacks to the horror seeing multiple icons with a controller

[hollow compass]

I should also say that I wasn't complaining because I'm "a seasoned regular". My feedback was about the visual effect being hard on the eyes and brain.

[sullen relic]

Totally fair, I just don't recall if any dev feedback on that suggestion was ever directly mentioned in response

[vapid briar]

currently taking those out would be like removing 9 of 12 steps in a flight of stairs and wishing people good luck getting to the top.

[carmine thorn]

Why use the stairs when we can fly?

[sullen relic]

But we can fly -- removing 9 steps out of 12 wouldn't be a problem for anyone except capless kids

[hollow compass]

Yes, controller use still needs some polishing. 😆 I wish we could use ➡️ to toggle active buttons, especially at the shrine. I can't count the number of times I've accidentally clicked the return circle instead of the quests. Not to mention all the litter boats

[sullen relic]

On a different note, would you happen to know if the changes to the friend constellation in beta are staying strictly on the beta fork until it's finalised, or would parts of it have to get pushed to live in its current state like what happened with the UI being revamped?

[carmine thorn]

While you're still here, a suggestion for the headache of selecting icons on controller, can't you bind a "cycle between options" to R3 or L3? Playing on a controller is a nightmare anytime you get more than one selectable option. (return shrine as an example)

[cosmic orchid]

most friends: decends from the sky to greet you
that one friend: I come from the depths of the Earth

[vapid briar]

that's what the feedback channel is for, which i'm sure you've already posted in. and i know that has been delivered directly to the devs working on those features.

[carmine thorn]

Erm, if you check my last helpbot ticket and my last feedback, you know I haven't. I have had friends leave it for me, though since they share the same sentiment.

[manic panther]

ive noticed friends loading in use the same animation/camera motion as regular spirits loading in so it makes sense for me but yes.

it can get confusing (and it makes the light button VERY annoying to hit on touchscreen. i keep accidentally hitting the little teardrop wing button and exiting the constellation in live)

[hollow compass]

I vividly remember helping a group of friends doing the 4-player Assembly quest and all four of us desperately trying to grab the hand icons in the water. It was very obvious we were all on controllers, because it took us almost 15 minutes to finally do it what with the angle constantly changing what was an active button.

[vapid briar]

we get very long, detailed reports that the CMs lovingly put together for the design team. the teams i work on go over them line by line and adjust our designs and decisions as needed.

[manic panther]

yes, i like to AFK there to help people... it also constantly cancels the grab animation if you're too short because of the water 😔
i had to keep SPAMMING it and hope the others also spammed it at the exact right frame

[hollow compass]

Another minor irritation for control users: you can't cancels spells.

[sullen relic]

You mean the placeable ones? I don't think the "wear X for Y minutes" spells were ever able to be cancelled once you've started casting them, unless you either close the game or run into a portal

[cosmic orchid]

maybe in the future, for seasoned moths, the statue's eyes would flash like a flare to catch your attention instead of zooming in lmao

[vapid briar]

sky was designed for touch screen, so the console port isn't a 1:1 comparison, but we're always making improvements.

[sleek pelican]

Cosmetics spells can be cancelled by tapping the active spell, cancel option will appear

[manic panther]

perhaps having the statue open its eyes and release a call? similarly to the clock bells. no forced camera zoom, but still visible

[rare carbon]

I've polished my suggestions on #screenshots-and-videos before submitting it on feedback channel

[sullen relic]

That's in terms of deactivating a spell that's already been consumed, rather than stopping a spell that you've begun casting so that you don't actually use it up if you've changed your mind (though now that I look at it, I may have read russin's message in a completely different context)

[manic panther]

ive only used a spell by accident once which was actually nt that bad since its fireworks and i already own the staff

[sleek pelican]

Yea i think what they meant was that kind of cancellation/deactivate spell

[cosmic orchid]

in before the statue's eyes flare in red and make krill noises

[sullen relic]

Speaking of noises: does anyone know exactly what causes the questgiver to start honking like a moth?? I've encountered that a couple of times, but I still have no idea how to trigger it at will (also just looks super bizarre)

[hollow compass]

You can cancel wearable spells by clicking them.

[manic panther]

yep, tapping the bottom left corner will show the spells on switch and you can cancel them from there

[cosmic orchid]

grandma do be honkin often during dinner time
maybe the QG does that too

[misty bone]

grandma honk is to tell end of dinner right?? she wants hug

[sullen relic]

I thought grandma was just periodically honking like she was having a dinner conversation with whoever was there -- she does it periodically between emotes and wax waves

[misty bone]

she scolding us burning wax on table table should not have feets on them

[rare carbon]

I have bad idea for friend menu and slowdown prevents posting it

[timid bough]

the valley race cutscene would be long gone if cutscenes were easily turned off 😔

[misty bone]

but please do fix the wax moving over to the table and under... relatively hard to burn those...

[manic panther]

it has been considerably shortened which i am LEAGUES grateful for

[rare carbon]

ok slowmode is gone

[craggy bloom]

Hii, I had a question, can you move your beta account from Android to ios?

[final garden]

No, you'd need another invite wave

[sullen relic]

The actual sky kid and progress can be transferred I believe, but you won't actually have the ability to download beta on iOS without getting an iOS invite from another invite wave

[craggy bloom]

Yeah with invite wave, but is it possible after getting the invitation?

[vapid briar]

if you link your account to google or nintendo from android, you can recover your account from an ios device and keep your progress.

[craggy bloom]

But i thought is not possible to switch accounts in beta?

[vapid briar]

that said, beta invites are not transferable between platforms. you'd have to get a new invite link to ios the next time a slot opens up.

and there is no preference given to existing testers because the invites are first come, first served once those links are published in the invites channel.

[agile hazel]

Always interesting to read through the chat after a long discussion

[rare carbon]

The belonging granma event ended right

[minor falcon]

days of feast if over but the dinner event in sunny forest still happens every two hours

[cobalt jacinth]

You who haven’t found wax events might want to check #news for dst change in the world

[karmic jackal]

Can I ask, is Sky going to enable auto translate thing I forgot what it called in chat soon?

[kindred fossil]

No ETA on the in-game translation, it’s been in beta for well over a year now

[chrome ivy]

Auto Translate doesn't really easy to make of. But google translation API is a thing.

https://cloud.google.com/translate/docs/apis
hmm

[spice mason]

I would say that ingame translation also may not be something they ever bring to live. Tone is easily lost in translation , for one thing. And may cause discord between players who just previously couldn't understand eachother.

[desert token]

I use the gboard keyboard as a translator for live - it’s not good but definitely not terrible either

[hybrid pilot]

Does anyone know when the next test is?

[cosmic orchid]

!omgomgwhenbeta

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!

[spark lance]

Has anyone else seen that daily quests are the same in beta as live now?

Is it temporary or permanent if anyone knows let me know! (I make videos that’s why am asking ❤️)

[sullen relic]

There's been no official statement on it to the best of my knowledge. They'll give beta different quests if they have anything they want us to test, but we used to have identical quests to live before when we weren't doing any tests related to them either

[spark lance]

Thank you for the answer! 💚

[sudden basalt]

Hm what's new in beta

[gilded parrot]

Bug fixes and improvements!

[spark lance]

Day : 38352628298228
Dismiss awaiting 💔🥀

[kindred fossil]

He’ll come eventually, let’s be patient I say as I’ve been waiting 2 years

[spark lance]

I feel your pain same here 💔

[warm nova]

😔

[dry flax]

Unless they figure out what prop to give the spirit.. It may not come any time soon
In my head i assume only those TS with props will show up here after... Unless we will see a random with prop and without prop TS combination going forward as the devs slowly attach props to each spirit in TS pool

[spark lance]

I will freak out hahah if the next Ts within hour or 2 . if it’s is dismiss spirit lmao

[spark lance]

I always miss the fun convos curse timezones

[spark lance]

There there

[gentle tusk]

Tgc rn:

Spend all of your candles on the wise grandfather cape, and wait for the days of feast to begin to buy another cape that looks just like it!!!

[kindred fossil]

I hate to be that person, but I figured that the Ancestor cape is not going to resonate with players if they have not participated in the season or have no attachment to it whatsoever

I won’t be buying the cape, but it’s nice seeing a call back to one of my favorite seasons

Now I’m rather bummed out that he won’t be seeing Grandma at Home when he visits

[slim kayak]

yeah, the cape definitely feels like it's targeting a small section of players (me included). that might be why so many testers didn't like it, since not everyone experienced belonging to have an attachment to it

[agile hazel]

Is this why meemaw is by herself in sunny forest?
#general-sky-discussion message

[slim kayak]

noooooo grandma will be alone she deserves to have her family with her for days of feast

[gentle tusk]

Idk, i'm still gonna buy it

[kindred fossil]

The Belonging intro shows her alone, she grants you the bell to call for them

[slim kayak]

there was a lot of debate and discussion on the cape when we first started testing. some thought it was too plain, or it resembled the belonging white cape a little too much. of course, not everyone holds the same opinion

[steep glade]

I love the cape, I really do. It's like having a winter version of one of your favorite jackets. However, Grandpa coming now, is going to make that cape a lot less desirable to the people who are picking up Gramps' cape for the 1st time.
I can think of 2 other warm snuggly capes that haven't returned yet at all, that would have made almost everyone happy.

[slim kayak]

one of them is dismiss

[kindred fossil]

TGC the king of unfortunate timing

[vapid briar]

It's okay to not like things and not obtain them, truly.

Even internally everyone has their opinions on the outfit items we make.

[steep glade]

I agree 100% and say this often to others. I rarely disagree with TGC and can usually a reason behind everything. I just think this time, financially speaking, it would have been much more beneficial to keep those 2 capes separated by a good amount of time. I'm certainly not trying to put anyone down, and of course, it is only my opinion.

[vapid briar]

at risk of being burned alive, I genuinely find that white fur cape from gratitude to be the most unattractive item we have ever offered, which is okay! It's beloved by many and that's all the validation it needs.~~ inb4 the tinfoil hats slither from the woodwork to say that's why the acknowledge spirit hasn't appeared as TS—it's not that deep, fam. ~~

[vapid briar]

We're always experimenting with the items we offer and if something doesn't perform as well as other items, we'll take that as feedback and make adjustments for future content.

[kindred fossil]

You’ll live, really. Someone said it looked like wet toilet paper once and it was the funniest description I’ve ever heard of it 😆

[slim kayak]

i guess we know who's been keeping the ac on to keep dismiss in hibernation joke
i also don't really like the cape, i just find it funny that its been 2 years with no official appearance from the spirit

[vapid briar]

for example, beta chat dumped pretty hard on the final iteration of the witch hair for days of mischief, but that was one of the most popular items over the course of the event, so the wider sky audience held very different opinions than what beta feedback dictated.

[desert token]

🍵 most people only regularly wear a rotation of 4-5 capes at max, so I think a lot of people just desire it a lot to own it**, not to wear, at this point

[vapid briar]

which is totally okay! Collecting for the sake of collecting is a completely valid thing. I do it myself, but I haven't changed an item in my skykid's outfit since season of dreams.

[agile hazel]

guess you could call it your dream outfit

[steep glade]

Ahh, I see. That makes sense. I can see how the reaction in that case would be beneficial. I didn't think of that type of "testing" to see results. 🤔

[vapid briar]

really i'm just a recovering goth kid/edgelord who wears mostly black and red IRL and my in-game options to reflect that aesthetic on my skykid are limited

[slim kayak]

i guess if we see a red and black season, we know who's responsible

[steep glade]

YES PLEASE!!! 🙏🙏🙏

[desert token]

trying to match the postman cape with non-postman pants

[steep glade]

Fire trial

[zenith mist]

i get why ppl dont like the ancestor cape, but im hoping w this maybe we can have more new cosmetics themed off old seasons someday

[agile hazel]

Sounds like a great idea for #wishlist-and-ideas-archived. Maybe the devs will see it

[naive solar]

Oh yeah welcome to Sky server Ktjn! We hope you have a great time here

[desert token]

I mean considering the red feast cape last year sorta felt like a callback to the red belonging cape maybe we can get a fuzzy black one next year

[slim kayak]

did you mean days of fortune? because the days of feast cape from last year looked more like a recolored rhythm purple cape

[kindred fossil]

Yeah, that one felt more like a santa cape to compliment the santa hat IAP

[agile hazel]

gingerbread man outfit christmas 2022

[desert token]

the diamonds on the back look like the belonging cape diamonds, so for me it feels like a combination of both I guess

[spark lance]

I like the winter ancestor cape. I appreciate how it ties everything together for the season, the event and the nod to Belonging (Grandma notwithstanding of course). It makes perfect sense to have that cape as it is. To me it's better than just a recolored all white santa cape, for example, though I'm sure some may have preferred that.
Btw: Please no ugly Xmas sweater cape next year. It's novelty won't last long enough for me to wear it a whole day.

[vapid briar]

okay but a pixel-stype cape could be super heccin cute <_< imagine a crab with reindeer antlers >_>

this is why the art team doesn't let me near outfits

[spark lance]

I'd be okay with a Xmas sweater jumper/body though because my wife says it'd be neat.😉

[agile hazel]

That's why you gotta be

[carmine thorn]

And... no black tier 2 in live, yet. I do like how the recent changes to rendering reflect the void that is the black on BT2, though.

It also seems the grey "tips" shine now with the new changes

[sick pendant]

Stan

[lucid star]

[trim spade]

dismiss cape IS the ugliest cape, I think most people wear it as a flex

I've heard only one person really like it and wait for the ts

[manic panther]

i want dismiss cape so i can be a chicken (respect hair)

[shy ore]

Chicken strips

[kindred fossil]

There’s plenty of us waiting, it’s just we’re not as feisty as Juggler fans (for the most part)

[spice dirge]

Honestly, I love Dismiss cape

Very fluffy would totally sacrifice myself to the krills for it

[cosmic orchid]

I want dismiss cape for my yeti look

[fervent ridge]

I like dismiss cape, looks pretty soft

[crisp thorn]

I would love to see my Chibi rockin some KiSS boots. Leather pants/ jacket with long fringe… and a microphone prop. Don’t forget the big hair! 🤘🏻😂yeah I’m old. Haha

[ionic bluff]

I love the dismiss cape

[quick harbor]

When I was a moff, I saw a player wearing dismiss cape while playing piano and thought it looked like paper

[sick pendant]

Dismiss is only wanted because its rare

Just like juggler

[leaden oak]

C'mon devs, don't gatekeep dismiss please. Send it with a prop please

[sick pendant]

What would dismiss's prop be tho....

[grizzled kayak]

Dismiss cape is ugly but at the same time you could look inwards and ask yourself if it’s ugly or if you can’t pair it well with other cosmetics (me). I’ve seen some great outfits with it though.
Therefore, it is ugly.

[manic panther]

the head bird but as a prop
just a little sitting birb

[leaden oak]

Gratitude stone

[tropic radish]

There's various reasons that someone wants dismiss to return. It could be the cape, the mask, etc.
I personally want them to come back because the hype train for them is much more calmer

[carmine thorn]

I just want Acknowledge's emotes, tbf

[fluid quail]

it is confirmed then, I'm the only one who likes dismiss cape and and it fits on some outfits that I've tried.
||yes my friends kept saying it's ugly too||

[vagrant sequoia]

Sometimes i wouldn't like a certain cosmetic but still buy it and end up using it often

[crisp thorn]

IMO. Nothing in Sky is ugly. We all have different preferences. On cosmetics or whatever.. That’s what makes us different. We are all different. No matter where we live on this earth. But…. In Sky we all meet up and have fun!! That’s why this game is so awesome!! 1. Free to play and free from ads. 2. Tell me another app based game like it. 3. Meet/ talk/ be friends with people all over the world!! 4. Santa is watching. Hahha

[sage linden]

which spirit is acknowledge again???

[carmine thorn]

That's the name for "Dismiss" in the game code. When we were testing seasonal spirits and more regular spirits in beta as new daily tasks, we saw the code strings due to a bug.

[tropic radish]

Oo, just like "Voila" ?

[minor falcon]

not quite, the code jumble dailies looked like this: #beta-screenshots-videos message

[quick harbor]

Personally, I dislike the boogie pants, probably because I have conflicts with the leg weight. But I won't tell people they shouldn't wear it.

I hope we can get more pants with different colours, I was pleasantly surprised with the Prince Sword Pants, although the colours had been present in the boogie pants a tad bit, the shame which was similar to Blow Kiss pants caught my attention.

So for myself, anything that looks like Rhythm Pants, I will take it gladly.

[carmine thorn]

I'm still surprised Ark is named "oasis" in the code. Living in an oasis, I can say, Ark doesn't look like one at all... Needs more large darkness trees. (to mimic RL palm trees found in Oases... Yes, that's plural for Oasis)

[shy ore]

Alexa, can we add Palm tree prop in Sky? 😏

[kindred fossil]

Oh that would be lovely, I love the Ark but it does feel empty sometimes. Except if those tree gave wax you’d probably almost never see them

[cobalt jacinth]

Ark would look great with more darkness trees but originally many oasis don’t have trees. Fortunately it’s all in the code live players don’t see. Who knows how did ark look 👀 by design when coding has only been started and how did it change and evolve

[timid bough]

pretty sure the oasis part is the part where the questgiver is

[wary star]

the mushrooms

there were mushrooms in the air that gave you one candle

[cobalt jacinth]

I still don’t understand how mushrooms are connected to the code name of oasis. Mushrooms don’t exist in oasis

I was referring to the (maybe) oasis look back in design state, not live or testing state

I know there were mushrooms 🍄 and they were removed unfortunately

[wary star]

WE NEED CANDLE,

[cobalt jacinth]

How is it connected to the previous conversation about beta and codenames?

[timid bough]

personally i don't think its meant to portray an accurate representation of an actual oasis but by the idea of it.... a friendly place in middle of a desolate and hostile area

[cobalt jacinth]

That’s a great point of view, I like it

[wary star]

i mean

we were talking about ark so

[carmine thorn]

Say that to the little critters the coyotes hunt in oases. It's pretty much a desert's watering hole.

[timid bough]

well that's expected when its the only real supply of water, but technically its the most friendly natural area in a desert if you just ignore others

[carmine thorn]

You'd be surprised how many animals would rather extract the water from cacti over going to an oasis. (Quite a few birds and critters just do that instead)

[wary star]

i mean wouldn't it be easier to find

[timid bough]

suddenly beta turned into geography class

[steep glade]

Well, for someone like me that can't get past the uneasy feeling caused by Krilland, the Ark truly is an Oasis.
Maybe it's because I'm a Child of Enchantment, but the beauty of the little flowers, the only water around that won't kill you, and the festival of lights and banners all over the ship... I still smile every time I come over that crest and see it. 💖💫

[valid terrace]

(randomly popping in to see how things are)
also biased because i’m also an enchantment moth

y e s

there’s something about moth seasons that stick with you

[raw wasp]

Ya

Mine was assembly and it was. Not that good of a season but like i still think its my favorite anyways

[trim spade]

I’m a sanc moth (in live) and I don’t care as much about it. I do like the area, the fact that there’s a lot of wax and many wl there. My fav season is Dreams

Enchantment was the first season to add a seasonal area and expand the world of sky

So it’s special

[spark lance]

Belonging: I was never even REEEEAAAALLLL

[gleaming quartz]

I'm pretty sure we're gonna test the new season next month, probably late December

[quick iris]

Is this new season test late?

[tropic radish]

I think of belonging as more of a spreaded small area extensions, especially with the fact that one or two seasonal quests go through there, so it's not 100% for belonging only
Enchantment feels like it's the first to make a full new area for the season's presence

[spark lance]

it wuz joke, but yea dat makes sense.

[hoary goblet]

There isn't a set time for anything when it comes to testing in beta, they'll test it when they're ready. LPP was the only season that started testing so early iirc

[kindred fossil]

Assembly started testing early too, but it’s still irrelevant to future season testings either way

[peak mason]

it'll happen when it happens

[gleaming quartz]

Ey Porter Robinson!

[steep glade]

I think the Children of Flight are very lucky Moffs. Imagine exciting this must all feel to them. I think it's an amazing Season, I can only imagine what it would be like to have it be my introduction. 😱💖

[peak mason]

yep !

[steep glade]

Can someone tell me how to change my name to have our emojis in it, please? I can't seem to find a way to do it.

[radiant drum]

This channel is for beta topics, so your question is more suited for #questions-and-help or even #general-sky-discussion. I hear Skybot might be able to help you as well

[spark lance]

Is the size change on fox mask a bug or intentional?

[pale junco]

Intentional

[gilded talon]

Thought Sagomay said it could be bug? #beta-screenshots-videos message

[kindred fossil]

Scaling tweaks are bringing all sorts of issues I don’t think this is final

[hallow igloo]

I think it's fun. Tall figures with sad eyes. Fixed it and now short figures have sad eyes. Fixes it and now masks are bigger or moved. That's bug fixing for ya

[austere merlin]

Does the isle wax area in valley of dreams only give off a limited amount of wax each day or is it continuous

[slim kayak]

it seems like its continuous, but i haven't sat there for more than half an hour to actually test it i'm sure someone out there is willing to go grey candle to test it at some point

[spark lance]

It just makes hair harder to wear with it :/

I hope they hold off on implementing it. Blinking is cute, but not if my mask is massive haha

But agreed, bug fixing is that way sometimes

[hallow igloo]

I usually prefer the big poofy sonic hair so this is inconsequential for my specific use case, but I do agree

[spark lance]

+ my fox mask is a classic combo for me so I would be sort of bummed

Ah well fingers crossed

[placid herald]

Ask this in #general-sky-discussion as it isn’t a beta related message,
Though I don’t know, try to find some more friend in the game or on discord (:

[pliant oracle]

That's the first rated answer I hear when there's a lot of time asked my questions.
Still 0%help, well thanks on that.

[placid herald]

My point wasn’t on answering the question though.
Just wanted to make sure you would ask in the appropriate channel.

[placid herald]

Actually just half answered so that my reply wouldn’t sound rude

[tender oasis]

Sorry for late answer, but do you mean the hotspring ? The last time i checked it was limited like eg. Bonfire was during the summer lights event. You could get a certain amount of wax but after that no wax appears to be collected.

[soft aspen]

helloo, sorry to disturb, but i just got a new (android) phone and was wondering if anyone knows if its possible to download sky beta on it without waiting for the next invite wave. I have my account info (linked gmail +ID), but when i asked support, they directed me back to discord. if i need to wait until the next wave, thats all good, i was just wondering if theres any shortcuts

[gilded parrot]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[carmine thorn]

If you already have a valid invite, just use the Google Account from your old device. If your new device is compatible, it should show up when searching in the play store. Edit: this only works if not switching platforms. If going from iOS to Android or vice versa, you would need a new invite.

[soft aspen]

aaaajsdfhsjdhf thank you so much,, completely forgot about that, i'll try it right now (and yeah, im switching android to android, so i should be good) thank you again so much

[rare carbon]

ey

[limpid crown]

How are y'all Beta Testers?

[slim kayak]

stargazing

[jolly bear]

I got feeling soon we will testing new season or this chat will be locked for a month xD

[carmine thorn]

Why though? We're actively testing the constellation upgrade. We're just waiting for the next set of changes to test.

[fluid quail]

last time i sat there it took me 1 hour give or take before it stopped dropping wax, dun remember if it was just 5 candles or more.

[torn girder]

i’ve been wondering, if wax is finally gone on 1 location (prairie for example), will it still be in wasteland (for eg)?
i don’t have enough time to test it myself haha

[chrome ivy]

There's no major changes since October 22. Even so only some bug fixes

And tweaks

[carmine thorn]

To be fair, they have deadlines for other releases... Imagine how many on their team is working diligently on getting the Mali crash squashed before 15.5 hits live. We're nearing closer that event each day.

[manic panther]

fixes > content

[chrome ivy]

fixes>content>bugs

[lucid star]

fixes > content > bird

[cosmic orchid]

fixes, content, birb, bugs

[eager harness]

I’m sure they are doing the best they can to get an update for everyone as soon as possible. Be patient.

[valid terrace]

this stuff takes time! it’s worth the effort

[spark lance]

I wish some of the ts props went through beta feedback. I can live with some O.K props but the newest one makes me think their time is better spent elsewhere

[raw wasp]

Honestly yeah the vault memory cube had so much potential as a prop but now its just… :/

It would’ve been really cool if it projected a ray of blue light or floated or something

Maybe it could be like a game or something w friends

U could use the telekinesis emote to lift it up and make it glow

I feel like it could be really useful as like a beacon for aid in that case

[remote ocean]

I guess newer props are merely meant as decoration for shared spaces, which is why it feels like they just took the asset raw and put it there

Makes sense, although I still wish they did something

[gilded parrot]

your wish is my command

[raw wasp]

I guess its not too late to request changes

[timid bough]

their time is better spent somewhere else is exactly why its the way it is

[raw wasp]

True 💀

But why even make the props if they don’t do anything,,, Its like putting a bandage on a gaping wound because it doesn’t actually fix whats wrong about traveling spirits as a whole. Also they said they were trying to give props a narrative touch but there’s been pretty much none of that,,

I dunno this isn’t really beta talk anymore so i guess i just hope that they start testing props again

[timid bough]

its decoration for shared spaces
its not really meant to fix anything either just some small stuff
the only narrative touch is how the prop sold is some degree related to the spirit

[raw wasp]

Ahh well i dunno. I kind of thought they were trying to like approach the issue of what the system lacks for veteran skykids with it?

[timid bough]

yeah it was to have some minor items to be bought for people who already have the travelling spirits
but it isn't exactly an "issue" in the first place

[raw wasp]

True true

[timid bough]

the only issue it brings is more candles to spend

[raw wasp]

I think the oldest seasons could probably use props that elaborate more on the stories of spirits (Gratitude props in particular)

[cobalt jacinth]

#wishlist-and-ideas-archived or #seasons-events-chat is the most appropriate channel for wishing or discussing future content

[raw wasp]

Ok

[sand dawn]

I think so far the added props have been chosen to fit with the spirit quite well, so that narrative touch is definitely there for me

[unreal lichen]

Ye. And as an old player the excitement after buying the prop and heading to the wardrobe and then find out its just another of those Assembly backpacks and when placing it the reaction was like.... "really"?

[brittle vigil]

I know I should have asked it in #beta-looking-for-group but getting help in there will take several days so... || can anyone help me open the 2 player door in vault to get ts?||

[quick harbor]

Boi just chibi fall

[brittle vigil]

I don’t have chibi mask yet(

[kindred fossil]

I’ll help, send me your QR :)

[spark lance]

sky beta for psvita when

[slim kayak]

After we get sky on a Samsung smart fridge, of course

[spark lance]

ofcourse the smart fridge always first

[agile hazel]

Alexa, open Sky

[dry flax]

Glad we don't have accelerometer based controls!

[sage linden]

Come on #beta-announcements light up

[cedar scaffold]

Do I have to pay attention to the new beta invite if I’m already a beta player
Btw is there a new beta invite in the future?

[agile hazel]

If you already have access to beta, you don't need a new invite

[placid herald]

There is an invite once every season, we just don’t know when the next invite will be

[cobalt jacinth]

No new invite needed if you're already in beta.

[hollow compass]

There is no such set schedule. It is on a needs basis, whenever.

[naive solar]

There'll be an invite when TGC needs more testers

[cedar scaffold]

What happens if the beta expires, it says expires in 81 days on my end

[placid herald]

My bad I thought it was kinda once every season
Thanks on educating me about it

[cedar scaffold]

Haven’t touch my beta in months, forgot how beta works

[urban elm]

Umm

Can i participate in beta?

Someone...

[gusty haven]

#beta-faq

[urban elm]

Then,click on blue cape?

[gusty haven]

"To receive a notification when we have new Beta tester invite waves, you can give yourself the @Beta Invites (Ping) role by clicking the blue cape react at the bottom of this post."

[urban elm]

Arh,this gonna take a long times....to be a beta tester,how long usually it will take for someone who wanna become beta tester?

[gilded parrot]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[gusty haven]

hard to say, couple months...

[urban elm]

I see,thanks

[fervent ridge]

When devs need more tester's, so perhaps in some months, who knows

[gusty haven]

when you get notification you have to be fast to click on link. If you get invite sometimes took some time to be able to download app

[urban elm]

Ohh,okiee

I'll wait....for it

[gusty haven]

in beta-ivites you can scroll and to see how often was in past

[cosmic orchid]

after that whole beta server overload fiasco, I doubt they would need anymore soon

[trim spade]

Oh wow when was that lmao

I noticed some ppl who had been inactive for months suddenly get the light I sent them. Like at least 10 ppl. They didn’t return the light tho. Did something happen?

I mean they all came online and got my light

[chrome ivy]

Coincidence?

[tropic radish]

Either coencidence, or the light simply expired
I had this happen to me a few times with friends who had left the game

[vapid briar]

it's highly unlikely those players actually logged back in. the cached data probably cleared, allowing you to send light again.

[chrome ivy]

The Server Cached Data?

[manic panther]

i get that in live. handy actually, i can tell who hasn't been online

[spark lance]

I'd rather they don't bother with new props if they're that unremarkable, but its no big deal ig

[ionic bluff]

Yeah I get it in life too. I have a friend who quit back in assembly and every once in a while I can send light to them

[meager olive]

waiting for the next beta invitation

[gusty haven]

Week ago i adopted moth and all the time i didnt saw her online, but whenever i open app every time show that it was not lit (even i already did few times in one day) 🧐🤔

[analog citrus]

that happens when someone blocks you I think.

[manic panther]

i think people who blocked you wont show up in your constellation at all? so probably not that
it definitely happens to all of the several-month-old moths i met that probably uninstalled after eden

[gusty haven]

Yesterday i met her, updated friendship tree and now normal.

If moth is not active and you have 100+ people they just send to back of the list. You see most active people. Just block few people and you will see those moths... when somebody blocks you you stilll can see them in your constelation

[hardy silo]

it's been 2 months since I opened my beta what did i miss 💀

[hollow compass]

#beta-announcements is a great place to start. There are sometimes very important updates that need testing, but aren’t new, flashy events. 😉

[spark lance]

Some good points from the new constellation system 🤔:
• Friend's spot won't change (old system, your friend might get evicted from their spot to give space to those lighting your candle)
• no overlapping spot and we could arrange our friend as we like (in old system, there isn't any fix spot for friends, sometimes they could appear too close on top of each other, so it's hard to tap on exact friend)
The lit/unlit, giving us light/heart, online/not online are easy to understand and distinguish.

[steady falcon]

AMAZING

[naive solar]

AMAZING

[hollow compass]

I disagree on the easy to distinguish, but otherwise yes.

[cosmic orchid]

AMAZING

[kindred fossil]

Friend spots won’t change? What would that mean in case of a full constellation?

[fluid quail]

it's only the groups dark, solar system does change with each refresh just like the old one.
if that's what u mean.

[kindred fossil]

Oh, a refresh button would be handy though

[woeful geyser]

Is anyone else having issues with the traveling spirit? I completed it but it doesn’t open the constellation in home.

[cobalt jacinth]

Not really. After completing it, did you light up its statue and did you watch fully the cutscene? Did you check by infographics that you completed the correct spirit?
Did you try restarting your game?
Maybe it’s just question of wording but Traveling spirit doesn’t need to show up in the constellation at home, you should interact with its spirit tree at the fish pond.

[agile hazel]

Big thankies to Sagomay and the team

[valid terrace]

aye, nice! not a tester, but will be giving my thoughts on this

[bitter lake]

"we'll be all ears (well eyes)" i love that

[leaden oak]

Hey i think beta "might" come out tomorrow or Monday

[eager harness]

What makes you say that?

[leaden oak]

First of all it's been a while since beta update, and beta mostly releases around Monday. it's a guess

[desert ocean]

Hello.

[wild remnant]

When will owl hair get a iap/hj

[pale junco]

Never
#beta-discussion message

[wild remnant]

NOOOOOOO

[pale junco]

Atleast never in beta

If ultimates will return to live hoot hair might be there

[wild remnant]

YES

hoot hair my beloved

I'll do anything for hoot haiR AJSHWJSI

[spark lance]

It's not a feedback per se but my opinion about this new constellation: I really liked it but the problem with it is the time it will take to light up each player, and unfortunately there isn't a button. to light them all up at the same time to save time on it, and I don't know how that goes against game guidelines, a simple button

[hollow compass]

It goes against TGC's vision, not the game guidelines.

[young magnet]

It has been clarified by ktjn for several times that it's intentional to not design that button cause it make your "light up" meaningless

[cosmic orchid]

might as well remove lighting up players together if it loses its meaning

[young magnet]

Then replaced by send a free krill to your friend

[obsidian topaz]

👀

Can the authorities give me a qualification for the test clothes?

In your eyes, I am a foreigner. It may be difficult to understand what you mean

[hollow compass]

Please read #beta-faq

[shy ore]

eats waffles from patience

[kindred fossil]

You’ll be eating a lot

[timid bough]

wafo buffet

[kindred fossil]

All you can eat WAFO buffet

[valid terrace]

Please read #beta-faq for more information.

Invites are only released when the developers need them, you can’t enter Beta until they are (and they’re limited)

[gilded parrot]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[valid terrace]

skybot I was saying exactly that

[quick harbor]

Hey yall, did the prices for days of feast change since last year?

I'm currently writing a report and and as a beta tester aswell.
But I didn't test much of days of feast 2021 so I don't remember at all

[kindred fossil]

I don’t know about legacy IAP prices, but returning IGC prices didn’t change at all :/

[shy ore]

That's my dinner. 😏👌

[quick harbor]

Thanks.

I didn't end up just writing a wall, I wrote an entire boulder at this point. 900 words and 5500 characters.
I'm gonna feel bad for the poor support staff member that will read that

[naive solar]

A long feedback? That's always exciting

[quick harbor]

Yeah, it's mostly just me complaining about how the cosmetics prices have been skyrocketing, the props for the ts and regarding the mirrativ event and when we will have the luxury to participate in it too

[cosmic orchid]

prices didn't seem to change last time I saw them in beta, same as last year
Feast table is still 150 candles

[kindred fossil]

I wish it had gone lower, to lessen the pressure

[quick harbor]

Yeahhh, the table was so scary back when it was introduced. i was but a moff that began 4 months prior lol

[fluid quail]

I barley got that table in beta when it returned and I'm broke since then

[edgy zinc]

Do we have to get new invites if you use diffrent device? (like IOS to IOS)

[kindred fossil]

Only in case of moving from iOS to Android & vice versa, no

If you’re moving from iOS to iOS/ Droid to Droid, simply log back in to the account you signed up with

[plush marsh]

what if im moving from andriod to ios?

[slim kayak]

yes, you need a separate invite to go from android to ios. but you can transfer your account the same way you would in live when you do get a new invite

[plush marsh]

atleast i have beta on my andriod

[autumn elk]

a friend of mine is saying they are unable to see the traveling spirit does anyone know why this might be happening?

[austere merlin]

Have they completed up to valley

[autumn elk]

yes and they did eden as well

[hollow compass]

What version are they on?

[autumn elk]

they are on the newest build

[hollow compass]

Don’t know, then. They should bug report it.

[manic panther]

Did they GET the spirit yet as well?
It won't show up in home unless you've collected it before

[desert token]

that isn't true. it will still show up in home with a prompt for you to "find the spirit and relive their memories"

[hollow compass]

It does show up at home before you collect it, but it will tell you to relive its memory before you can access the tree.

Otherwise nobody would have been able to get any TS before.

[manic panther]

oooh scratch that then
i always thought they were just a button at home my bad

[agile hazel]

Dismiss comes, doesn't show themselves

[spark lance]

to be all the time going to friends' constellations just to turn on his light and it's very boring to do that over and over, and now that we'll have space for 140 friends and the new kind of constellation, now that it's going to take, I'd say 6 or 7 minutes

[sand dawn]

Yeah so, the intention is you only light your besties or something.. but I can see that isn’t how it’s used, as it’s more hearts if you regularly light(and receive back) from as many as you can light..

[carmine thorn]

If we're forced to pull them down from the constellation to light, they could at least enable some kind of short messaging system (160 character limit or something small like that) with friends we have chat unlocked with. Make it worth it to pull their skykid down. You know, leave them a quick message like "couldn't catch you online. Hope you had a fantastic day."

[agile hazel]

We'll have to wait and see what the next update looks like. But arguably one really important change should be the ability to report players from the constellation

[spark lance]

could be able to remove the player from the constellation forever instead of blocking

[cosmic orchid]

I believe they already gave out a reason why unfriending or removing a friend forever is not in their plans

[manic panther]

somethign about regretting removing them when you could easily unblock
althrough that still doesn't address the issue of the block list becoming equally overfilled with inactive players :(

[tawny nest]

how much was the snow globe for the beta days of feast event?

[shy ore]

#beta-announcements

[edgy zinc]

So we don't need to get new inv wave to get the beta app in diffrent devices? (for IOS)

[broken fractal]

Sry for the ping. But dark literaly answered your question right below you

[manic panther]

TLDS: if it's two of the same device (android>android or ios>ios) you're fine
if youre going from one to the other then yes you need a **new **invite

[fluid quail]

aren't u gonna need to wait for an invite either way to find and download the beta app 1st.
correct me if I'm wrong
I also didn't see any tips bout this in beta faq.

[faint comet]

If you're changing device from same platform, there's no need to snag another invite. It's a different story if you're changing device from different platforms

[hollow compass]

No. As long as your access is valid you can just redownload from Testflight, at least. Not sure how it works on Android. I’ve been through many phones since the start of beta.

Testflight remembers what apps you are testing, which is why it’s important to use the same login credentials.

[cursive tinsel]

It's the same on Android...you can download the app when you change android phones if it's the same login details to Google (just in case anyone needed it)

Beta snooze time until the next constellation iteration

[woeful obsidian]

Any suggestion when new season starts?

[kindred fossil]

Right now.

[woeful obsidian]

😏

[edgy zinc]

Probably when live season almost ends

[cosmic orchid]

when it's ready for testing

[wary star]

what

[kindred fossil]

No

[shy ore]

What about testing Preorders? I'm eatin WAFOs🎶

[unreal crow]

I really wannabe a tester

[placid iron]

I've seen this thing going around where people are saying that in the beta theres a new season map already???? is this real?????

[glass spoke]

kindly report it if you can and don't spread it nothing about the new season is confirmed until tgc makes an announcement about it themselves

[desert token]

if it’s not in #beta-announcements it’s not appropriate to discuss here

[kindred fossil]

Please remove your post, this is not accessed by normal means

[placid iron]

Alrighty i just deleted it

[naive solar]

please do not pay any more attention to leaked content, and do not discuss it further

[languid ocean]

hey um so off-topic question. what does WAFO mean? i keep seeing it in this channel. googled it and it just me gave 34 possible meanings

[minor falcon]

wait and find out! 🧇

[kindred fossil]

Why do I have to wait? Why can’t you tell me now?

I’ll never find out what WAFO means 😔

[wheat pumice]

Wafo/Gwapo is a Tagalog word which means Handsome 👌 Thank me later 💕🤣

[kindred fossil]

Oh! 😳

[pale junco]

!seasonwhentellmebruh

[gilded parrot]

Bruh it’s already started why aren’t you playing it already??

[pale junco]

If skybot says so then it must be true uwu

[nova bay]

~~Dark I love your pfp ~~

[spark lance]

This is a vague question; how does tgc see their future? Surly there can't be an endless amount of seasons..won't they eventually hit a sort of ceiling?

[sinful sinew]

It's true

[hybrid venture]

my thoughts exactly 🤣

[hollow compass]

None of this seems beta related. Perhaps head over to #general-sky-discussion and #lore-discussion-spoilers instead.

[spark lance]

Ah I was afraid of that, I wanted to hear beta testers thoughts too

Oh well

[timid bough]

you can say the same thing with many other games.... its basically the same question as "what if one day sky ends"

[spark lance]

That's true, though sky feels unique in how they operate, since they don't have the usual model other games use to keep themsleves sustaining for a long while

Thanks for humoring me, I'll move to general

[sinful sinew]

оh? sorry and thanks!!!!!

[stiff tusk]

WAFO means __W__ait __A__nd __F__ind __O__ut as voi said
I'm horrid at interpreting what people mean in text so if you mean this as a joke then sorry

[kindred fossil]

Yes I was joking, thanks for your concern though

[spark lance]

🧇 🍯

[pale junco]

WAFO clearly means
When Ais Fthe Onext season

[north urchin]

Hey hey just wanted to know if the beta invite links come always rndm or if their is any kind if pattern in how they send out the links?

[timid bough]

random during tgc working hours pretty much

[north urchin]

Okey thank you!! It's rlly hard looking out for invites and not missing them

How fast are the spots normally taken?

[timid bough]

probably in an hour or less

[north urchin]

Thank u a lot

[shy ore]

Yeah, I ate WAFOs🧇

W hen
A is
F the
O next
s season?

[surreal dust]

when as fhe oext season

[jolly bear]

30 minutes or less cause i did have watch how the link just put around 5 second then it got full under 15 minutes

It is due to Time difference too
So whoever still awake when the Link appear
They are the one who take them as quick as the speed of light 👍

[manic panther]

i will probably never get one then LMAO

[wary star]

if it truly has to end, they'll make it offline only

they'd only need to keep the game up, no servers

[wary star]

while i'm at it, they'd probably make all seasons available, aswell as being able to purchase infinite hearts, no more IAPS (they'd be free), all ts props are available, locked areas (office, switch area, etc) are available, things that require multiple players will be gone

they'd do it out of kindness, like a love letter to the probably small community they'd have

[carmine thorn]

Imagine a peer to peer mode. (No servers, but you could connect to your friend via p2p)

[eager harness]

We don’t know yet. As soon as they finish it for testing.

[stuck rose]

First time i experienced this link was full by the time i downloaded TestFlight… so next time i prepared

[spark lance]

when will there be a new update?👀

[agile hazel]

When you see #beta-announcements light up

[cobalt jacinth]

!omgomgwhenbeta

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!

[pallid cipher]

ktjn we have begged for big bird for 40+ days… please 😭

[edgy zinc]

Big bird ded

[shy ore]

BIRD DOWN

[faint rose]

What ever happened to that one really pretty piano track that played in the wind paths in one small update? Is it still in the game?

[analog citrus]

Kinda disappointed how buggy this current quest made it to live. It was a bit of a mess when I first did it in beta and I thought it got better when I watched some people’s vids later on in testing. But it didn’t seem any better when I just did it in live. The cutscene was all wonky. And the actual quest was still kinda annoying. And it seems like something is missing after the quest. Isn’t there supposed to be like some big plants or rocks?

[faint rose]

wanna say it played in the area with all the seasonal quests complete (not as in immediately after the ending cutscene, the music just playing in the area if all quests were complete)

[gilded talon]

There are big rocks after you turn in the quest tho (for live). The plants are for the next quest only.

[analog citrus]

Ok… they just showed up now after I restarted. But then disappear again when I get close. Like they are popped or something. Again. Seems kinda wonky.

[mental ridge]

There are two tracks available in the Wind Paths after you finish all the quests, and you can switch between them by stomping on the in one of the “rooms”. I posted a video of it, you can see if that’s the track you have in mind
#beta-screenshots-videos message

[faint rose]

Ohh thanks so much! It reminded me a bit of Kirby's epic yarn music

[mental ridge]

Omg, you’re right! Now I can’t un-hear it haha

[autumn spindle]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who got epic yarn ost vibe

[remote ocean]

One small question. After you do the 4th quest, the green illumination can be activated again in any way? I kinda like the lightning and would like to switch between both

[minor falcon]

iirc if you replay the cutscene you can set the light to the green version again (beta)

[pale junco]

Yes, it turns the area into night

[analog citrus]

Hope that come to the Ark… I’d love to be able to turn back the clock there. I think it was possible for a bit (or it was bugged)

[kindred fossil]

It was bugged & patched Randomly reset one day from entering through the wind paths

[nocturne pond]

[placid iron]

I know this is pretty unrelated but are beta testers allowed to trade accounts? I saw someone on a different server trade their beta sky account (that same person was also responsible for "leaking" (more like hacking) the "new season map" in the beta)

[raw wasp]

P sure its not allowed

Dunno what to tell you otherwise though if you can, report it in game

[placid iron]

So that dude who I'm talking about broke like 3 of TGC's guidelines

[raw wasp]

I wouldn’t post about what they’ve done here in too much depth btw

[placid iron]

Yeah I wont

[raw wasp]

Ty ascends

Oh if you can get a social from them, try reporting that?

[manic panther]

haha itd be a shame if hackers were banned from the game and couldnt get stuff illegally that they shouldnt be getting early anyway

AFAIK you can give accounts to other people as gifts or for free but you cant SELL them

[agile hazel]

What? You shouldn't be giving accounts to anyone. Period.

[manic panther]

its a morally grey area but not strictly banned as far as im aware
but in terms of beta i dont think people should be giving them away

even more so if youre a hacker as that person can then get banned for your actions 😬

[cobalt jacinth]

As per TOS you shall not grant access over an account to anyone else. That's not "greyzone", I recommend you to read Sky EULA thoroughly.

[manic panther]

ive seen people say many different things my bad

[carmine thorn]

The TOS explicitly states "non-transferable." So anyone else who says different either hasn't read the TOS, or have nefarious intent behind their lie.

[prime oriole]

There is no preview of the next season yet

[wary star]

people have asked to buy my account like 8 times

i'm not joking either

like dude it's not my fault you didn't play during rhythm

[eager harness]

There will be when they are ready and finished with one.

[vapid briar]

just like live, accounts are not transferrable and doing so could result in the account being banned.

[vapid briar]

There's nothing grey about it, here's an excerpt from the Terms of Service:

No Account Transfers/Sales. Accounts are registered to you personally and may not be sold, traded, gifted or otherwise transferred at any time under any circumstances.

You can read the ToS in full here: https://thatgamecompany.helpshift.com/a/sky-children-of-the-light/?l=en&p=all&s=legal-code-of-conduct&f=eula-terms-of-service

I'd make sure you're using a term like morally grey correctly, which usually pertains to the motivation of fictional characters (something along the lines of D&D character alignment charts) versus ambiguous or implicit interpretation of legal documentation, but in this particular case, it's explicitly outlined that accounts are non-transferable.

thanks for coming to my ted talk

[placid iron]

Thanks for the confirmation

[tawny oxide]

No any updates for long time~~ 🥺

[slim kayak]

that just means that the next one might be a big one who knows what it could be? new season? dozens upon dozens of bug fixes? hopefully that's a given it could be anything!

[timid bough]

bug fixes and improvements

[eager harness]

Beta is about patience, along with everything else. TGC works hard and some people don’t realize how long that takes.

[manic panther]

i havent been able to program a walk cycle for a 2d game i cannot IMAGINE making a fully funcitonal 3d game

[chrome ivy]

There's bunch of facebook group that selling accounts or "borrow account" in facebook. I wonder when TGC one day will enforce all of the TOS very strictly.

[tropic radish]

I think they've enforced it in a very obvious manner, Especially with the ban wave that happened before.
But maybe we could use another layer of protection

[chrome ivy]

I still wonder what POV for people who got banned? Just curious.

[shy ore]

I experienced that. My mutual friend from other game just sold her account to others and now I learned that selling accounts is really bad (I think) cuz it's against ToS, am I right?

[chrome ivy]

Well, If really no one knows it should be fine or your account either gets flag by system or that company notice about it

[tropic radish]

A little bit of searching on YT could help you :0
Gonna drop out discussion cause this is beta. Seeyall !

[shy ore]

I'm not planning to sold my account, why would I?

[chrome ivy]

[timid bough]

such topics shouldn't even be discussed here in such detail in the first place
lets just say its very much hard to enforce things outside your control and especially in such large numbers
also TGC is more aware of such things than you think, just because they don't take action doesn't mean they don't know

[desert token]

during testing for the season of dreams I could hardly go a single day without seeing a person obviously using exploits in beta, while these days I haven't found a single one in over two weeks. I'd say they're ahead in terms of anti-exploitation measures

[wraith sigil]

I want to qualify.

[digital flame]

you need to wait for future invites, currently it is not possible to enter beta. We do not know when the new invites will come out. For more info read #beta-faq

[gilded parrot]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[wraith sigil]

Oh, it's so hard.

[shy ore]

Patience is needed.

[short hawk]

they send the invites when here it’s night so yeah it’s too hard for me😺

[hallow orchid]

hi someone can tell me when the fith quest from season of flight will be available ?

[sullen relic]

Beta testing runs on a different schedule to live, so what we experience in beta testing isn't always indicative of how it'll be paced in live. That being said, they announced the live quest schedule a while back in #news over here (the 5th quest is scheduled to appear in live on the 29th): #news message

[desert token]

it already is in beta if that's what u mean. the season of flight ended couple of weeks ago here

[sullen relic]

oh right -- yeah, flight's already come and gone in beta

[carmine thorn]

Imagine the chaos if live could complete quests 1-3 in just two days like we did in beta. The chaos...

[sullen relic]

i mean, strictly speaking, you could do all 5 quests in one day if you just waited and stockpiled them all, but that's probably not what you had in mind

[rain delta]

The season would feel incredibly long and tedious then hshshs

[chrome ivy]

It's kinda pointless to release quest if it's isn't really finish

Some music's are placeholder and some have text that haven't been translated by devs

[jolly bear]

This season actually felt very very Quick than any other season, like I didn't check the Countdown and thought it is still around 40+ day and turn out it is already at 30+ day

Compared to other season, this season definitely felt the Fastest one to End with

[empty river]

i present to you: rhythm and its 2 weeks of testing

(3 if the extra week we got wasnt the 2nd one i dont remember 😅 )

[raw wasp]

Makes sense though since most of rhythm must’ve been copy pasted from the og winter season

[slim kayak]

it was 12 days long, so not even 2 weeks and it was the most chaotic imo, for a lot of reasons

[kindred fossil]

Yeah, it came and went within a blink

Booty rock 😔

Go Gadget Go piano-extension, old Rhythm mask design, old Rhythm cookie pendant, TS introduction, is not worthy of being ult reward What else is there, so much happened in such a short testing period

[spark lance]

I just got 35 season of flight candles automatically... 🤨🤔

Oh dear candle bug

I now have 105 season candles 😂

[kindred fossil]

Can you file a report?

We’re off-season so this is not supposed to happen (& we always know how infinite-candle bugs end)

[fluid quail]

it's happening to me too but not season candles..

[hollow compass]

I don’t even remember how many regulars I had/should have. I definitely don’t have any new or extra seasonals.

[spark lance]

Done 😁👍

[kindred fossil]

My currency is unaffected

[hollow compass]

Did you not have them from before?

[fluid quail]

dark can i dm u

[wind locust]

I’m waiting for days of love:D Curious that what will see this year

[kindred fossil]

I doubt this is has to do with future testing

[wind locust]

My birthday is in days of love so that will be so fun:D

[drowsy fiber]

Is it a bug that days of Feast igloo is opened or did I miss an update?

[kindred fossil]

Again, this is more of an error rather than future testing hints

[kindred fossil]

It should be closed – is it open? I wasn’t paying attention

[drowsy fiber]

I think (though not sure) that I saw it closed before... but currently it is opened for sure...

[placid herald]

It is open

But there’s no one inside, it looks like what it was the first time it came in beta and it wasn’t closed yet

[olive tide]

igloo is open for me too, currency unaffected. checking closet now

[placid herald]

I got a bunch of day of nature, bloom and fortune iaps for no reasons

[raw wasp]

That’s a lot of errors in one though. I wonder how it happened

[drowsy fiber]

Time to bug report I guess... My currency stayed constant, no new items for me.

[kindred fossil]

If you haven’t participated in Days of Bloom, Love & Fortune testing, check your closets, this is strange

[placid herald]

I haven’t, I’m a pretty new beta player that’s why I’m confused

[olive tide]

i just realized i participated in all of those lol, no need to check closet i guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[placid herald]

Also got 70 season of flight candles when doing a candle run in forest

[drowsy fiber]

I wasn't a beta tester back then, no new items for me

[desert token]

I just got 90 normal candles

[kindred fossil]

Hoho

[placid herald]

I got 50 normal candles along with 70 seasonal

[minor falcon]

what's this? the lottery?

[drowsy fiber]

Wait a minute... Now I got tons of candles as well, had to forge one.

[kindred fossil]

Please report these issues

[drowsy fiber]

I will (when my candles stop increasing)

[placid herald]

I shall whenever I got time to

[carmine thorn]

smells a currency reset incoming.

[drowsy fiber]

Should I force-close my app to stop getting more candles or should I wait until it ends?

[placid herald]

Watch hard worker players losing half of their candles again /hj

[placid herald]

Won’t change anything, I tried to close it a bunch of time

[slim kayak]

oh dear, of course something happens during downtime

[wheat panther]

I wasn’t there during Days of Bloom, Love & Fortune testing however no new items. I do have the candle forging bug (report sent). I got 70 reg candles and 140 seasonal candles after I burned home candles & one darkness plant

[fluid quail]

did we anger the big bird

[drowsy fiber]

Okay. What I had to do to get the new items: for the candles forge a candle. For the items go to closet and restart the game. I wonder if I should go through Eden to see if the Eden candles are bugged out as well?

[slim kayak]

ok, i just lit up a few candles and got 20 candles. something is very wrong

[drowsy fiber]

What does the popcorn reaction mean, Aeras? Should I have not posted that here?

[slim kayak]

means i would like to know as well it would be pretty bad if ac was also bugged

[placid herald]

Either tgc decided that Christmas gift were given a month early or beta is broken again

[fluid quail]

why the igloo is effected tho 😂 it's so random

[drowsy fiber]

Okay, I'll try to do Eden. (That'll be a first time ever ) Edit: Why did stupid me buy none of the recharging items???

[wheat panther]

Oh ok so I just logged back in again and like magic, I now have those Days of Bloom, Love & Fortune testing items. Going back to bug reporting

[empty river]

ah, so ignis and bea finally angered the elder bird and this is the result

for real tho, please report this issue

[wind locust]

Well i lost my last account last month I didn’t save it and some of my cosmetics are back I’m actually happy:D

[sage linden]

Nothing new in the closet for me, and forging candles in normal, so I guess not everyone is affected by the bug

[spark lance]

It happened to my friend and I in sunny Forest. 🤔

[copper thicket]

nothing changed for me

[drowsy fiber]

Is beta Eden the same as live Eden? I'm stuck and I feel like live is different here...

[fluid quail]

the season candles or the regular bug? regular bug happened to me only once in valley entrance

[kindred fossil]

Forge rate is normal for me, burned through Sanctuary geyser & Valley

[spark lance]

Season candles

[astral sedge]

when a new season in beta version?

[kindred fossil]

We don’t know

[drowsy fiber]

!omgomgwhenbeta no one knows

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!

[slim kayak]

it seems inconsistent as to what the triggers are for this bug. most of my friends are getting currency or cosmetics by lighting candles (home and valley) and burning dark plants in forest. i haven't gotten anything from the dark plants myself

[copper thicket]

i lit all the candles at home and forged a candle and everything is normal for me so far, interesting :0

[desert token]

I got mine from adding a friend

[astral sedge]

ok

[placid herald]

Why is this so random like literally the bug is so different for everyone

[nova bay]

Did a bit of cr few hours ago but didn’t notice anything unusual candle wise

[copper thicket]

i wonder why this bug is so.... buggy.. /lh

[nova bay]

Maybe you should bug report that XD

[wheat panther]

That’s great but I wasn’t a tester then so I shouldn’t have these items.

[copper thicket]

i can smell a currency reset coming

[kindred fossil]

Dunno, maybe they could excuse a couple hundred of candles. It’s not consistent nor exploitable

[copper thicket]

oo true unless theres a way to get it multiple times

[minor falcon]

I don't think so, for some reason it's handing catch up iap for days of love and fortune for those who don't have the items, the candles you get are the bonus ones from the packs

[copper thicket]

i've gotten the candles but no cosmetics ;0

[drowsy fiber]

I got also days of mischief IAPs since I didn't get them during testing

[placid herald]

And day of nature as well

[drowsy fiber]

I did not get days of Rainbow, though. Was it in beta?

[minor falcon]

then it might be all iap you're missing that's still "available"

[kindred fossil]

It was tested in beta, yes

[empty river]

i would avoid making specific assumptions for now until this is solved, since from the looks of it its veeeery very inconsistent

[placid herald]

Day of rainbow iaps aren’t appearing in the current state of the bug though, only day of feast, fortune and nature

[empty river]

and you know how rumors are

[fluid quail]

yes definitely, i froged like 6-7 times after the bug happened and everything is normal after

[drowsy fiber]

Does anyone know a source for which days had which items in beta so I can check which ones I got (would be easier to write 'all items from Days of xxx and yyy' than giving a list)

[slim kayak]

the only thing we did not test was the days of healing flower. all other iap are fair game (presumably)

[placid herald]

Literally all of the day of fortune, day of feast and day of nature in app purchases items

Sorry for the ping I forgot to turn it off

[drowsy fiber]

Is there a source for the IAPs for the live version? And don't worry about the ping, I'm fine with pings.

[placid herald]

I guess you can check the wiki to see what event offer what (used to as it’s possible that TGC add new items to these events now)

Again forgot to turn the ping off I’m dumdum

[final garden]

Basically all the IAPs from every event except Days of Rainbow and Days of Summer are appearing

[drowsy fiber]

Thank you! And don't worry about the ping.

[placid herald]

Apparently? Well so far only iaps from 3 events appeared for some reason

[final garden]

People who weren't able to test Summer Lights, Mischief, and Feast are saying they got those IAPs as well

[placid herald]

Oh really ? I was a tester at that time so I already got those items

[final garden]

So Feast, Fortune, Love, Bloom, Nature, Summer Lights, and Mischief stuff is appearing for those people who didn't already have those IAPs

But not the new Summer Lights or Mischief items, just the ones from previous years

[placid herald]

I might sound stupid but would that mean the recently added IAPs during day of Mischief or Summer light (such as the witch dress or spider hair and more) won’t be back next year
I was very curious when those events ended to know if all of these cosmetics will be back next year and the new IAPs didn’t appear in people’s closet (if I understood right) so yeah just a dumb thought

[final garden]

I don't think that's what that means necessarily. It just seems like we're caught up through Days of Nature 2021

[placid herald]

Yeah I believe so as well, though I do want to know if those IAPs will be back next year

[spark lance]

I just got the tea table and the swings and both do need more bug testing. 😂 The swings drops people under the map and the tea table has invisible cups. 🥴

[glacial barn]

First boot, collected extra candles and seasonal candles in valley after getting first candle cake. Second game launch, closets were flashing with new items. Time to see what happens with the third boot

[desert token]

well, now I at least have a chat item I can carry around in beta I usually rely on benches only

[sage linden]

Fortune cape my beloved

[drowsy fiber]

Eden candles don't seem bugged. Though I am almost sure I already bought wing buffs and got none.

Has anyone else got a red blinking dot at the constellation sign at home?

[fervent ridge]

Why many things I don't have just appeared in my inventory, is this a bug?

[glacial barn]

Third game boot had nothing new pop up - thinking I've only got the two bugs

[final garden]

They're most likely the same bug. The currency is probably just what would come in the packs with those IAPs

[chrome cypress]

What are you all talking about?
i am confused, for me is all normal in beta

[final garden]

People who didn't have event IAPs up through Days of Nature this year are getting all of those IAPs

[naive solar]

I'm one of the lucky ones who didn't get the contents
"Lucky" i think

[chrome cypress]

I weren't a tester during days of future but nothing of that cosmetics are showing for me.
I see, guess not everyone is getting this bug.

[kindred fossil]

Try restarting a couple of times

[drowsy fiber]

Try forging a candle and restarting, it might get you the items. And if it does, it would be nice if you could report it.

[fervent ridge]

I got it when I was cr in valley tho, when I enter nothing was in home, but once I came back all was just..there xd
Maybe you can try what all suggested qwq

[chrome cypress]

Ok, i took some wax from valley and game gives me like 70 season candles, still no cosmetics appeared

[desert token]

I got the exact number of candles the iap cosmetics would have come with, so I also think it’s the same bug

[drowsy fiber]

Try restarting the game

[chrome cypress]

Ok, now they have appeared.
Gotta report that.

[kindred fossil]

Those who participated in those events didn’t receive any currency or items as they have already owned them, so it’s safe to assume it is the same bug

[gentle tusk]

What is happening with beta?

I collected a canlde and got 70 seasonal candles

[kindred fossil]

Happenings like these are common during hibernations

[kindred fossil]

Restart & check your closets

[gentle tusk]

Hibernations? Is this like the infinite candles bug

[gentle tusk]

I was gonna say that i got a lot of event cosmetics but the other message was more interesting for me to answer first

[kindred fossil]

No, it isn’t exactly, but during down time bugs like these tend to crop up

[minor falcon]

it's more like iap catch up than absolute candle madness

[gentle tusk]

XD

I wonder if they will remove those items from our closets

[kindred fossil]

Dunno, we’ll see

[gentle tusk]

With the candles bug, they resetted it to 200

[gentle tusk]

But can someone explain me this downtime thing? I didn't see any scheduled downtime

[final garden]

Between updates

[desert token]

they’re free to do as they see fit, but imo it might even be beneficial to let testers keep candles (since range is like 20-90) for easier testing of days of fortune cosmetics for instance

[chrome cypress]

i don't understand why this kind of bugs they seem always appears when there are no updates for a long time.

[gentle tusk]

True, just like the candles bug, right?

[chrome cypress]

Yep

[gentle tusk]

I'm not reporting the bug now because im busy but i'll report as soon as i can

[visual temple]

I agree.
During the infinite candles bug, I saw people friending each other freely, it was a big party.

You don’t see that happening very often when friendship has a price tag on it.

[mighty lance]

Adding a send all function for candles in the constellation does not cheapen the meaningfulness behind sensing candles. I would much rather actually spend time with my friends in the game rather than going through my entire constellation trying to make sure I sent everyone who Id like to send candle light gets light.

[timid bough]

some small amount of candles isn't an issue but when it goes to an infinite amount that's where the problem start
the more and more lax beta goes with currencies the more attractive the beta becomes, and with that more people who plays beta as live and then when a reset actually comes then all progress is lost and you can only cry wolf

sending candle light everyday isn't a requirement to interact with friends

[visual temple]

It is a requirement to get hearts, which are a requirement to get items.

[gusty haven]

haha, i will play on swings until i can in case they take it back 🤣

[wooden karma]

It's a good idea.

[gusty haven]

i'm swinging alone and i don't care 🤭 🤣

[vapid briar]

if some of y'all can send your beta sky IDs to @wraith fractal so I can flag it up to the engineering team for investigation, it would be greatly appreciated

[gentle tusk]

Sure, i'll get it and send

[opaque swan]

Oh

I went from 4 candles to 38

[gentle tusk]

Done!

[gentle tusk]

I went from 11 to 66

[lucid star]

Ok seems like other people are getting the same bug. I picked up a bit of light in forest and got a ton of candles instead

[gentle tusk]

Yeah, and if you restart your game, you will get days of love and nature cosmetics if im not wrong (only if you don't have it)

[manic panther]

theyre just testing next year's april fools event

[lucid star]

Yep, just restarted and I now have the swing and seesaw. That's definitely a weird bug, especially with no update to trigger it

[strange estuary]

My Sky suddenly has 70 seasonal candles.

[agile hazel]

Double wax event:
Exponential wax event:

[empty river]

math season math season m

[manic panther]

heptaconta wax event

[austere merlin]

Ktjn I’m gonna test rn and if I see anything abnormal I should dm your alt?

[shy ore]

How about School Season cuz u said a Math Subject?😏
(I think)

[austere merlin]

Don’t see anything abnormal, must’ve been hotfixed (iOS iPad Air 2)

[slim kayak]

it doesn't seem to affect everyone equally, but tgc seems to be looking into it right now

[austere merlin]

I’ll still test and make sure, I know for a fact that I do not have the white flower from the days of healing event so I’ll look out for that

[slim kayak]

the white flower was never tested in beta, so that wouldn't be an option

[austere merlin]

Oh it wasn’t?

Was the grey grat cape iap tested in beta? If so I can look out for that

[slim kayak]

nope! that was one of the iap we never tested. and the result of that was bugs. which is why we've tested all other iap after that

no, the gratitude pack and the rhythm pack were not in beta either.

[austere merlin]

Ok how bout any iaps that were tested in beta before sanc (when I joined)

[kindred fossil]

Only seems to be packs from 2021 and catch up packs from 2021

[austere merlin]

I got all those when they were being tested but I’ll look out for the 70 seasonal candles bug

[kindred fossil]

70-105 SC comes from these, also

Some packs are bundled with SC

[safe knoll]

So.. if you've been playing beta long enough you wont get those extra 70-105 SC because you already purchased those packs before
Like it depends on which ones you actually have

[kindred fossil]

Yes, I’ve been testing since Enchantment, no extra currency or IAPs whatsoever

[analog citrus]

I’ve been testing since Belonging and I just got some candles out of nowhere. No seasonal or Cosmetics blinking in the closet tho

[austere merlin]

I haven’t seen anything so far (sanc

[kindred fossil]

How many?

[pale junco]

puts on tin foil hat THE update is coming because a chaotic bug has appeared out of nowhere

[carmine thorn]

Let's check the timeline: beta tests IAP gifting, no major bugs to report. The day they announce gifted IAPs we get a bug in beta where everyone who didn't have this year's event IAPs magically have them... Apophenia or did my tin foil hat work this time?

[kindred fossil]

My forge rate is normal, so I don’t think it has anything to do with forging?

[analog citrus]

I dunno, not a lot. I can’t remember how many I had before. Maybe 10 or 15?

[sleek pelican]

Could it be that starter pack IAP gift in beta

[kindred fossil]

Maybe some older accounts got a dupe IAP?

[pale junco]

Maybe a devs change something bts in 0.15.5 to get the system ready for live and it just fell apart

[analog citrus]

I’ve bought every IAP since I started so….

[gentle tusk]

It didn't happen with forging, only collecting wax

[pale junco]

Wonder if this is maybe connected to people that gifted/were gifted the initial pack.

[sleek pelican]

Did u receive gifted starter pack when iap gifting first begin in beta?

[kindred fossil]

I have too, but I did get the option to be gifted Starter/Founder packs when IAP gifting was introduced, earning me extra candles

[analog citrus]

I never gave or received anything when gifting started. I’m a bad tester…lol

It kinda just happened when I went home. I don’t think I was doing anything like collecting wax or forgeing

[rare carbon]

wair

WAIT I JUST FORGED ONE CANDLE BUT I GOT 50+

[kindred fossil]

It’s unrelated to the bug at hand but that’s what I’m assuming it to be, if you have the time you can pass your ID to @/ktjndev#9694 (*If you are affected)

[austere merlin]

If you’re not affected should you still send?

[kindred fossil]

I don’t think so

[rare carbon]

WHATS HAPPENING IN MY BETA

I suddenly got all iaps from last new year event

[wheat panther]

Definitely can read back a bit, it’s been happening all day.

[pale junco]

Wait is Samantha ktjn?

[rare carbon]

welp im looking cute tho

[pale junco]

Imagine if dismiss cape iap pack appeared 😳
totally not saying this because dark is here

[rare carbon]

EUEYEYYYEYE

[kindred fossil]

It’s been retired I doubt it exists

[dense fiber]

I have a theory: the bug is secretly the grinch and wants to give back to the community.

[rare carbon]

Grinch's pre-christmas gift

[austere merlin]

[dense fiber]

by beta standards it's a late christmas gift

[rare carbon]

oh

[gray forum]

That’s what i thought

[dense fiber]

nvm my joke wasn't funny

[gray forum]

I’m like Christmas is over haha

[rare carbon]

What I saw was, If you forge 1+ candle for first time, it will forge 50+ and gave us 70 seasonal candle

[gray forum]

My guess is they’re testing stuff and somehow it’s glitching into beta ?

[rare carbon]

i guess? also i got tea table IAP from glitching

[sullen relic]

70 seasonals specifically makes me think it's got to do with IAP cosmetics -- I feel like quite a few of them came with +35 candle bundles, so two of those IAP packs would add up to exactly 70

[gray forum]

I’m glad there are bug to mix it up

[manic panther]

i still stick to my joke that this is their april fools testing

[dense fiber]

theory number 2: the bug gave everyone a paycheck and a new outfit so they can hang out at their local jollibee (the closest jollibee in the sky world is located in assembly treehouse, though they're understaffed so it's probably closed atm)

[slim kayak]

i also agree that the seasonal candles are definitely a part of the iap cosmetics, specifically the ones from days of love. both came with seasonal candles. i already had both the swing and see saw so it makes sense why i didn't get 70 seasonals like some other players did

although i am curious (probably will never get an answer for this) why did this happen during downtime, and not after an update? makes me wonder what tgc is doing in the background

[analog citrus]

Weird it popped up when they posted a bout the gifting.

Maybe somebody flipped the wrong switch

[kindred fossil]

Theory number 3: the bug gave everyone a paycheck to either take dancing lessons, or standup comedy lessons, take your pick

[slim kayak]

that's probably the most likely thing. it's happened before

[rare carbon]

aHhhh NOW i know whats happening:
forging 1 candle triggers to buy days of Love iap, which also contains regular/seasonal candle

[analog citrus]

Rip Eden seasonal constellation glitch

[kindred fossil]

No, I don’t think that’s the case

[rare carbon]

Oreo stepped on a server

[slim kayak]

it's a bit inconsistent, some people i know forged a candle but didn't get the iap they did not own at that instance. there seems to be many triggers for it

[manic panther]

the devs are expressing their love for beta testers

[shy ore]

ates a bunch of burgers

[sullen relic]

I'd also be willing to believe that it's probably a typo -- if you saw the TGC spirits during mischief, you'll notice they don't actually have separate fingers besides the thumb, which makes keyboards quite hard to use probably

[rare carbon]

Im tester since Assembly test so I didnt own any Days of Love/Bloom IAP

[manic panther]

conversely, they are simply the masters at typing with one finger (thumb)

apparently the hacker reuploaded theit video after it was copyright removed. should i contact someone abt this?

[sullen relic]

Last I recall, the advice there was that you can DM any community manager that has DMs open for that kind of report (I'm not actually sure which ones do)

[kindred fossil]

Report to @/Zahlya#2014

[spark lance]

If some folks found any modded or spoiling contents that haven't been in Sky Beta, please share it to the Devs and they will investigate the situation.

[rare carbon]

I like your shiny head btw

[spark lance]

Thank you unlit child

[oak lagoon]

Is there an actual king now ?

[pale junco]

Do you mean the eden elder? If so then no.

[carmine thorn]

Beckoning Ruler is technically a King.

[oak lagoon]

No on the sky redirect

Reddit

[slim kayak]

it might have been a fan creation?

[oak lagoon]

I’ll post in beta screen shots ?

[oak lagoon]

It’s possible