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Yes I have too & it has fallen into deaf ears, I understand how frustrating it is but it’s not our burden to carry
& unrelated, let’s not shun players who come here fact checking, I’d rather answer these rumors a thousands times than have it being spread even further
Many YouTubers take advantage of beta to make misleading content, quite dissapointing but what can I say 
Anything for views Immaright 
Ah yes the views 
you can take my manta cape
i dont like it ✋
🤚
has the stress tests been good tho
i hope that means we get mmmmm fweebies
We did get fweebies, red poppy flower & manta cape for chosen testers 
Hello can someone please help me, i tried to do the second quest but i cant go to the area for some reason its like stuck, please someone help me.
Quest of what
Of season of flight
Oh I saw someone mention that they couldn’t go to Forest underground cavern, maybe it’s a bug, probably should bug report
Ohh okay thank you i make a video of it
Where should i bug report? Theres just live bug report
Oh thank you really much that’s helpful of you
Ultimately, it doesn't really matter where you go, since Skybot will ask you what device you're on and if you're on beta or live anyway
Well, I want to know that I want to join the test suit, but I can't join it. Can you help me?
That reminds me when there was the whole "chibi clipping was patched" debacle. The skytubers would put that in their titles, and so many people thought it was actually being patched, when it was actually just bugged. 
There's some info on joining beta in #beta-faq , including a pingable role for the next time there's an invite wave. Hope this helps
What do you guys think of the capes this season?? I feel like i wanted a longer one..
there is no invite wave at the moment, please read #beta-faq
Thanks!! 😳
To test the gift feature. Maybe it will get to live👀 / not the manta cape. I mean the feature... Right?
Make sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues regularly if you're a beta tester. It's already stated that this is only a test for beta:)
So the whole gift feature won't come to live?
We don't know and it's best not to assume to avoid spreading misinfo^^ They could be testing it to send other things through inbox in the future, but no one knows
ok i know that thank
because i am so surprised to the gift😋
it is currently a test to see how server handle “stress” aka when a lot of people trying to log in at the same time. We don’t know what’s the plan of tgc for it 
Oh thanks for clarifying
It's definitely stressing people out tho 
Stressing the servers out too
"-waaay back in 2020-"
Sanctuary moths:
🧑 🧓 👴
2019 moths: 💀
Plot twist: this was a hint to a underwater season all along
It's not that deep fam.jpeg
just a question to those who received the manta cape when the update went on, did you finish the current season? because I finished my constellation today and received the manta cape just now 
I completed a majority of it. I received the cape after the initial announcement.
Suppose it was a coincidence then, thank you 
Oooh! Did everyone else get it or just you?
DON'T give me false hope
QUICK QUESTION
if we changed devices and we had beta in the old devices but not the new one does that mean we need to wait for a beta invite to get in beta in the new device 
Depends, if it's gonna be from same platform or different
or not because of the same email ?
Season of Swimming 🏊. A village comes together to train their very own Michael Phelps
Same platform 
I only know with Android, you don't need to snag another invite, just sync it to the current account you linked in
okayy thank you im on andriod 
probably to help the server error issue when a traveling spirit comes or when a season starts
iOS too, just simply log back in into the Apple ID you signed up with
I think they test how servers handle when they as the sender send mass messages (even with attachments) for future possible compensation or notifying mass players based on a criteria
You only need a new invite in case you’re crossing platforms (Android to iOS and vice versa)
That is entirely unrelated to it, no?
if they needed a ts stress test they'll just send dismiss as a surprise traveller for 10min /j
I went to do the red light quest and found the area dark, in the pre-season status. Is this a timed thing?
The forgotten ark is bugged, you're free to report as a bug, because it's not listed in known issues
It’s a bug, rewatching the cutscenes should re-restore (out of order for a fun time ✨)
Thanks. Definitely fun to see it come to life again!
red light can also be found at the shipwreck/crab fields area if you need it for a daily quest
I have a question. In the Isle, beside the temple, the cloud tunnel is now part of the wind tunnels? It pulls you through really fast. Is that a bug?
for a moment i thought the new button was a prank
but 
Imagine the next "new button" being a progress wipe button. 
Thanos button
The wind path from the Season of Flight only connects to the Prophecy caves in Isle... the cloud tunnel near the isle temple shouldn't be as strong.... I'd say maybe it's a bug? 
That’s what I was wondering because I know there isn’t a wind path there. I’ll go back later and report it if it does it again.
It's always pulled you through fast if you're flying from the floating island back to the temple
Do you know if one day we will be able to play low-end?
Looking for new beta friends to make videos with 🤗
I'm going on an assumption here, but I assume you're asking if lower end devices would be able to play sky in the future. This is highly unlikely. Sky is a very demanding game. It even makes the switch cry in pain with how much it hammers the CPU and in some places, the GPU. If a console with over 1 TFLOP of GPU processing power has issues keeping the game at 60 FPS, I highly doubt a low end Android device would ever run it. (I've seen framerates as low as 17 fps on the switch, like sanctuary islands)
Yeah plus the game only grows in size with each new season which means more device storage
Yes!
All QRs welcome
I enabled some magic and I found even android device with SDM 888 inside can not run sky 60fps in 1080p
(homespace ~50fps 25-58fps)
GPU usage:74%
CPU:60%
Temp. go booooom(40℃+)
Ehm , i have a question, the Beta only works un android? Dont works un xiaomi? Miui?
A mobile device isn't engineered to take the SoC being full throttle like a dedicated console should. (I say this, because the switch's cooling solution could be better.) 40+C isn't much. My switch reports 58-64C depending if I throw a fan against the dock or not. (ARM SoC's don't thermal breakdown until over 75C)
MIUI is Xiaomi's Android UI. It's still Android. Some Xiaomis aren't compatible if they didn't come pre-loaded with Google Play Services
I have the servicies of Google play
Does your device show as "certified" in the play store settings?
Yes i have certified, and un this server i don't see the channel to invitate
oh! sky beta invitations aren't currently out right now
You gotta wait for beta's next invite wave! That also includes if you're already a tester on one platform but wish to be in the other (if you're an android tester, you'll have to wait for the invite wave to be an apple tester)
Besure your device's widevine level is normal(level 1),rooted or unlocked device may can not install sky.
Hi!
Does anyone know where the wl are to be found in Wind Paths? I only found the one next to the quest master
I only know one in new season area
is there another one?
I don't know
There’s only 1 for this season
Hopefully they will be added sooner.
hopefully
Such a large area and only 1 wl 
Thnak you people! 
Please make sure to leave a feedback about it 
Uhm okay I will...
Thanks!
but yes, do leave a feedback about it if you want 
Guys, that shadow you have in your office, does it do something? I saw her when I walked into the office after the spirit was talking about a legend
Days of Mischief is over in beta
dark portal in office toilet used to bring us to new area during the event
Oh thanks for explaining
I'm sad that area didn't get to stay.
Was hoping for it to stay somewhere in forgotten ark
Would do justice for ark. People would start visiting it more often
Is it true that all props automatically become solid for everyone?
Not everyone, friends only
Chat props still require to be seated at to enable collision
event exclusive areas add more things to look forward to during these events i guess
Ohhh so only friends! Good, i was worried this would make things easier for the people that push players to the rain or the polluted water in geyser.
One more question: if your props are solid for friends, does this mean you'll be able to push the spirits in their screen? (ex: Travelling spirits)
Yes, as long as you’re both in the same instance, just like the good ol’ days
if we delete sky beta, will we still be a part of the beta
You’re Android beta, right? Android testers can’t get removed for inactivity, so it should be fine
Im not a beta yet, but i still wanted to know! Thanks!!
I'm not a beta tester, but I was curious about how many winged light are in the new season of flight area? I'm currently 4 wings away from getting my 11th wedge 
Number can change when reaching live
There's 1 
Is there a server issue ?
Unlocked all 5 Flight quest, we only get heart & hug from quest giver.
Unlocked all Little Prince quest, we get to buy the limited edition pro max ultra plus sword outfit.
Unlocked all 6 Assembly quest, we get whole IKEA store from quest giver. 
Just be happy that this Quest won't bugged or anything
Also the Assembly one have lots of hard quest so it is worth it to give more player more items to get from the Tree QG
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
:jSkySwitch: Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Technically the truth 
season of ikea
season of iaps
season of ...
what shall be the meme name of season of flight?
Shortcuts
definitely.
season of birb obviously
season of "don't miss a single daily if you wanna complete constellation."
Isn't that all seasons? 
season of pants v2 works too
For me? Not actually. My pov is on bases of beta prices 
wdym? do you buy out all the required candles day 1
season of ikea
season of iaps
season of ...what shall be the meme name of season of flight?
@sick pendant Birbs
does anyone know how to transfer beta testing from one device to another like if i got access on one device but want to transfer (pls ping for answer)
If you will transfer access on a same platform (Android to Android & iOS to iOS) just make sure it's linked. Once you do transfer, just log in to that account linked to your Sky Beta Account.
If transferring to a different platform (Android to iOS, vice versa), you would need to snag a beta invite.
Still get server issues when want to online now
no issue for me.. on beta now
Just signed on now and had no issues, though it was a little funky for me a day or so ago
Guys, you won't believe it
I found an aspect on which season of flight tops season of sanctuary
But before I tell it I'd like to ask devs a question (if you guys will see this I hope you'll decide to answer it, but if you decide not to I respect your decision
)
When creating season of sanctuary specifically, were sanctuary islands created first and the spirits with the story of the season afterwards or vice versa?
I'm trying to reflect on my analysing patterns and to put my finger on what exactly made me like sanctuary this much. I already shared some thoughts in feedback. Your answer will help me to get to the root of it and to provide better feedback in future.
Weird, i was online just fine 30 minutes ago but now can’t log on due to server issues.
Same!
Hmm I tried again and it’s fine now! Probably just instability.
Yes me either , since the latest update,the server is a bit strange
Server again
QnA 
Already in it but I'm afraid it won't be chosen from there since it isn't about SoF
What if many people ask the same thing would it work 
You are Leonie from S🔆RA right?

That’s me! 👀
oh hi leo
Don't think it's a good idea.
Will get censored for being spam
I think when it comes to design they already have basic ideas before making it a solid project so perhaps the spirits and the storyline were created with the ideas of the different aspects of the island?
Do the Little prince pants count?
The most extreme mega ultimate that one... Cuz even if you had 200 SCs.. Didn't matter. You needed another 200 NCs to get it.
Oh true but I meant the green pajamas ones becoming an ult after they were IAP initially in beta
Yes... Forgot all about that 😅
The Forgotten Pants

... Can I become a beta tester? And if so, does anyone know how??
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Now you can't, invites are closed. Invites will open when devs want, we don't know when. More to read on #beta-faq
Oh ok, thankyou. I just read more about beta testing so now I have a better understanding.
henloo, i have a question, did the mischief event on beta already ended? (is this the right channel?
)
man I wish testflight could tell you how much space the download needs bc it keeps failing for me 
So, this is my confusion in Beta.
Since these 2 days or rather after the latest update, my Beta is consuming my battery more at the beginning. For example, 1% = 3 minutes in live and Beta (before update). But now after login or begin play always 2 minutes. (then back 3 minutes even though it still consuming again after a while )
Note : my graphic only 1⚡
This is very annoying even if it's only a minute and it's still in Beta, it will implemented in Live too, right? If so my game experience for sky isn't enjoy anymore...
Not sure if it's same, but in android i need around 3.2gb free space for the update to begin downloading
Are you sure it your beta app and not your phone battery problem ? I didn't have any change at all and my phone is around 1 month old now
Or maybe the capacity of Battery Needed are increased now..
im not so sure, but my experience on beta has always drain my battery more than the live version
question here uhhh when do beta invites are usually given away?
whenever the devs feel like they need new testers, which usually takes months
ok
No, I am very understand with my battery and I have also calculated it correctly. I'm sure it hasn't been broken yet
For note : evertime i open sky, i always check my battery every 3 minutes ( it means during cr/collect i always check correctly )
Could well be true...graphics changes/optimisation on each build can change things/power demand
But I am never sure if beta optimises the game as much as live anyway for my device
Hm, looks like I have to make it zero⚡ 
Thank you for help and hear
Is Tinkering Chimesmith's instrument a kalimba?
I'm sure is a kalimba!
Oooooh that's so cool 
Hi polly
whats poppin beta discussion?
The ult winglets don't even sit an equal distance to the skykid's head. One is buried in the head and the other is just floating. I hope they fix this because it looks bad like this. I get their whole thing of wanting to be cute and jaunty as it seems they are averse to symmetry but this ain't the place to do it. And yes, I've filed a bug report, as have others.
it's most likely because the the head accessories now adjust depending on the hair so that they don't get buried (just like in afro), it's rather unequal since not all hairs are equal and symmetrical
But that's not the problem. The problem is with the no hair, and shaved side hairs, one winglet is buried in the side of the head and the other is floating by. It's like one side adjusts so much and the other adjusts ~only~ so much.
A feedback for that would be great but personally, it looks good the way it is now.
My beta android bug report has an accompanying photo. One side stuck in the side of the head and one side floating by the head just doesn't look good to me, sorry.
And I have now given feed back and a bug report on this. As I've said,I'm not the only one who's seen it as something that should be addressed.
I would say if you share it here it will be fixed asap?
I seriously doubt TGC is unaware anyway. 
time to play avatars love 23423 times a day
It’s only matter of time until normal user discover it and spreads it across the internet so…it will be fix anyway
It begs the rhetorical question of why do we need any krill tricks? We have one creature in the entire game that can do any significant amount of damage.
I'm a little curious abt
did krill can be attracted by lamp in ancient beta? It may help us handle with the giant Dark Plant in GW now if it's really exist (and could come back)
1 geyser trip is more than enough to cover that Darkness Tree wax. Just an opinion.
technically one geyser trip is alot more than 1 darkness tree in graveyard that kills me everytime
I've wondered about the krill tricks
My friend has found another trick to avoid krills and it's not using the in game UI, but an external one ( another form of shop trick apparently ) and I'm curious whether if that trick can be patched or not, since it's messing around with your connection to the servers. Same thing with invincible trial glitches.
I mean, I can still do the minimize app trick when I play solo, but
I'll choose the geyser over that tree any day-
Actually I never gonna battle against that DP after the Daliy light system put into use
it's too dangerous & less reward (←solo wanderer)
Here's to wasteland
And having a very bad time to wax ratio with the chevron system 🍵
WASTELAND(in any sense)
Even tho Wasteland had the least wax count (I think) out of all the realms, I still try to do it every day if I could excluding Forgotten Ark.
Now with shortcut from Wind Paths, I might include it on my Daily Wasteland run, some time 
wax in graveyard aside, the relieve for pleaful parent was bad... really bad especially the krills keep changing direction whenever it wants to... or the server switches is rather bad.. can we not have that relieve at all please? i knew it is stiles D<
Hey, they gotta feed the krills somehow. And apparently the usual amount isn't enough to sustain them ú_ù)/j
Oh i forgot prince's green pants. Lol thanks!
Whats the ultimate reward for the upcoming season?? Theres only one right?
There’s two. Pants and hair accessory
How long would it usually take to get all the ultimate rewards into the season??
Quite a while, usually a few weeks before the season ends.
Or no time at all if you have enough money
Had 18 days remaining when I completed LPP in live. Got gifted plus compensation and the double candle event.
nice to meet you! What are you talking about here?
It depends on how long the season is- We won't know til it comes to live^^
The season will last 11 weeks according to the blog post. http://bit.ly/SkySoFlight
O, ty🧎
I have question?
The sky beta I didn’t see it on my phone but when I see it in TestFlight he tell me sky beta on your phone 😅
When will the next beta wave came
When devs want to. No one knows. We get stuff for testing and bugreport/feedback only
Hello guys may i ask smth?
Hey it's been almost an hour, u can ask it 
About what?
I met someone in beta and we add each other I asked them if we can trade hearts and they said” yes” i told them that i need lots of hearts cuz i need to buy the capeless and then they said the capeless was removed ages ago
( and then they laughed at me ) :”)
It wasn't removed, it's still in the game (beta only of course), worry not ^^
It's still in beta. It costs 999 hearts plus Vault full completion.
So what I really want to say is it really removed or it is just a prank
it was not removed. after finishing vault, you go to orbit and buy the vault elder hair. right above the hair is the invisible cape, which still costs 999 hearts
I know all of that thank you for the info ! 
Hey so im a beta moth and in the shop it says that candles are free. Does it mean thw only way to grind is to candle run?
Bit of advice: get every seasonal candle bunch while the season is active. Most of us have high candle counts due to many seasonal conversions. (Sadly, those of us who had these candles got reset to 200 with everyone else recently, though.)
Huh? Why did the reset happen?
Forging bug. Some people were able to get thousands of candles due to the forging bug
Do we have a price list for days of mischief?
You can find the prices announced for testing in #beta-announcements. Just keep in mind those have already or are subject to change until it goes live 
Thank you ❤️❤️
How did you all like the beta season?
It was cool
Birds
A bit upset a good chunk of our conversation about the season is now locked away (hopefully not deleted). Now it makes it harder for us to reference what we were talking about and how/if we helped shape what we will see in live. 
It’s most definitely archived but, you’re right! I wish it was kept as read-only for reference
Hmm i didn't get the stress test 😔
Conversation on the seasonal beta chat has been archived. Since the channel was an experiment, I'm certain the devs would like to hear feedback about how it was like from a member's point of view. Share stuff you liked, disliked and what could be better for a potential next time over in #contact-the-mods (where all server feedback/suggestions go) and we'll make sure they see it 
The main concern is live players who want to see our public discussions. It's already known some live players already claim "why wasn't this addressed in beta, isn't that what it's for?" Now we can't reference conversations of us players addressing this due to it being archived behind an invisible channel for regular users. (A good example of this is the amount of players giving public feedback in that channel about the wind path portals and how confusing they were to initially navigate in.)
I really hope the gifting button means that we're finally able to gift IAP and items that we don't use to friends, my friend has been desperate for the rainbow hair braided but I can't gift her 😭😭
The inbox feature (the button that gave some beta players the manta cape) is only TGC to players, not player to player. This has been discussed previously and confirmed by staff: #beta-discussion message
Also having Gifting system for Player to Player Inbox might lead to Scamming and Guilt Trip Gifting too
Lots of game that have this kind of System always have a bunch of Scammers and Guilt Trip Gifting.
It is better not put in this Game since we didn't want the raise of Toxicity.
Wait... We're not going to be getting the witch hat? Just the frazzled hair?
Iirc it’s in shop, unless they suddenly pulled it and I haven’t heard about it.
Whatever happens in beta doesn't mean it will happen in live too so previous year's iap may not come back is a possibility too. Tho they designed separate npcs for them so i don't think they'll remove them but we'll know for sure once it's announced.
So there will never be gift system between players in live?
I'm looking forward to the witch hat more than anything so god i hope it will be available
anything is possible but there is no signs of that happening
witch hair (still with hat) will be available as IAP
there is a spell that lets you wear a witch hat
There was no information about a gift system please don't believe in misinformation. Tgc is testing a feature which we don't have much knowledge of.
Wait i thought the witch hair is not iap?
But the spider one is
Witch hair is iap from last year
The one with the hat yes?
.... So it's not available in beta again?
It's literally what I was looking forward to but now the realization kicked in 
I thought I saw it in beta this year too tho?
witch hat with hair (from last year) = IAP
witch hat = spell only cosmetic
spider hair = new hair, IAP
Aka it’s currently in the beta shop
God the icon completely threw me off, i didn't know it was just a base holder ; _ ;
The icons for the accessory and the hair are very similar
Hewwoo, if I want to get the link's hair in beta, I have to link my nintendo account right? And it'll appear in shop?
Nintendo pack isn't available in beta anymore - it was only available for a limited time while it was being tested for live
Ooouh okiee tyy!
I would agree on this
Some friends send unsolicited heart trades after all, everything should be freely given or done
And TGC should disclose why the manta cape was gifted and the criteria they used 🤔 last time they used research to compensate players but it didnt go smoothly did it 😶
disclosing the criteria would be unfair as it COULD theoretically cause some outcry about certain users/whatever the criteria is being favored
but the gifting the cape + criteria test was to stress test the inbox for future compensation issues should they arise
basically what theyre doing is fine tuning it so that what happened last time DOESNT happen
I personally chose the manta cape because I felt like it. It had nothing to do with anything even remotely more complex than that.
There are also ways to deal with unsolicited heart trades; not to mention that getting a heart from someone doesn't always necessarily mean "TRADE WITH ME".
Some users use boats to request hearts from their friends, and others often like to give hearts as a thank-you for something their friend did in-game, such as take them on a candle run or help them complete a daily quest. Others still just like gifting their friends hearts just to be kind! They don't always expect something in return (although it is almost always appreciated)
The easiest thing to do if someone is trying to force a heart trade upon you is to simply not collect the heart. They can't send another one until the current one is collected.
I imagine this would also be possible if you were able to gift hearts via inbox.
Although since it's already possible through the constellation menu (and also easier that way, I imagine) plus they have measures in place to prevent mass sending (see previously mentioned 1-a-day rule) I don't personally see why it would need to be added as an inbox feature.
---((now that i reread this part i suppose this would be more of a #wishlist-and-ideas-archived thing than a beta one
))
Although I would personally love to see some sort of system that allows you to "offer" an IAP to a friend!
It would definitely need some rules in place, like, they have to accept it before the game proceeds with any sort of purchase. This would prevent people from feeling guilty for being gifted something expensive they didn't want since they can just say 'no' and the request will be cancelled. Maybe even a second confirmation to be EXTRA sure the person offering is still willing to send it?
Sounds similar to the AP gifting system we have now. Just, well, for IAP items
The easiest thing to do if someone is trying to force a heart trade upon you is to simply not collect the heart.
I disagree. There's no rule in game that requires you to send a heart back to the person who sent you one. They're meant to be gifts.
In that case I would take the heart and thank them for gifting me one. If they interacted with me and forced me to send one back, I would decline and block them completely. I never agreed for a trade, why should I bother to send one back?
true! it's always an option though. i've seen some people who trade often state that if they can't afford to continue the trade (low on candles, saving for ts/purchase) they opt to not collect until they can afford to send one back! so my idea followed the same kind of pattern. you can always accept if you want to :)
also yes, this is exactly what i had in mind. imagine if your bestie couldn't buy the cute little bunny and you just... happened to have some spare cash 
i elaborate a little in the wishlist channel actually 
hmm... but there is also alot of AP to HT.... as well... if IAP.. i dunno how this is going to be...
Oh... ok 😶 I hope you feel giving bonfire? ✌ thank you 🙇♀️
Anyone tried beta running with more than one friend? So you go three or four— i wanna know if the bug caused both of your friends hands got released (when you change areas) or if it’s just one of them.
it’s kinda hard to meet and kidnap kids in my beta. Afraid it might reach live before it’s resolved 
Anyone else has this weird bug where the quests don’t show up anymore? I have it in live now too and i have no clue what happened — rebooted device, sky and now updating ios… hopefully that fixes it
Temporary workaround is carry... It's pretty expensive to get up that far in friendship tree for a one time event, though. I haven't had carry break except for splits. Still good to test if any #beta-announcements says they fixed the issue and to retest.
i think some areas carry still breaks thou... tried with finicky as well...
This is not a giveaway. This was a test (probably mass compensation test based on criteria). If TGC could they would send a pile of grass in attachment. Please note everything can be wiped from it, therefore don't count in it. 
Which spots? Carry is pretty sticky, we found a way to go home and once she loads home space, she's back on. Person on carry taps ✓ on home confirm once you leave the current realm (to go home).
Imagine the rumors when they would be able to send a piece of grass and we all got that in beta 
Those tinfoil - rumours and theories would be much less harmful 
I recalled it was forest brook.. there are some more area as well.. let me check my bug report that time.. i didn't went alot of places..~~ i think i didn't note down orz~~
For me the most disturbing is there's still a challengeto get hugged by a friend or lighting a candle with friends 90% without clicking on someone else or the chat because of overlay inconsistencies. And the candle action icons jump randomly at candle cakes or darkness plants whereas they were so easy before the big UI update months ago.
@ocean verge sorry for the ping, moving it here to not clog the beta screenshot channel.
Some players who have tested Beta Lightseekers, especially those who have unlocked Jelly Umbrella before it became Lightseekers: Ultimate Umbrella, may have gotten a purple-colored look alike of Jelly Umbrella after they updated Sky Beta (not sure which build) and it just magically turned up on their Item Inventory.
One good example, is the member's name I mentioned on #beta-screenshots-videos which is "Hiddles". I remember they mentioned it one time here, that it just magically turned up on their collection and they said they tested Beta: Lightseekers.
Maybe your friend obtained it legitimately, same way as the above-mentioned member, but it can't hurt if you will report them besides they carefully check every accounts before doing appropriate actions.
Odd, we went through Brooke a bit ago and didn't separate. Was it a server split? Ever since carry has been able to go through transitions, that's all I use and haven't had many issues, unless it was an odd server split. But not keeping carry hasn't been an issue for me. Edit: Carry works through some places handhold never did, like hermit valley. 
Ok *facepalm emote level 8 - i found the issue… ahahaha omg. My date setting was set on the wrong day so yeah. XD let me file an addition to my bug report on that XD
yea, i had carry dropped off then finicky also disappeared but it was very often when i was running forest i think.. and when passing constellation gate at home
I never split carry since the carry was updated unless it was a major split because of server or connection dropout
Noted 😃 thank you for the explanation 🙇♀️
Cool 🤩
hey can anyone tell me the price for the ||withered antlers|| from the days of mischief in USD?
censoring cos I'm not sure if that belongs here,, I think it does lmao
withered horns are priced at $9.99 in #beta-announcements if you scroll up a bit
but the prices aren't confirmed to be final unless its officially announced
All prices are subject to change yes. Last time it was 9.99usd + tax
ahhhhh thank you!!
These problems coupled with things like trying to accept carry without having to fly up before hitting accept because the overlay of names and chat are my absolute biggest frustration with the game next to server splits. Whatever they did to the UI, assuming it was gearing the game towards more controller based play, is a nightmare and regardless of it being the bane of players and the subject of countless bug reports and feedback, these problems still exist. Frustration isn't even strong enough of a word,tbh.
Furthermore, having to resort to using the emote menu to deep call or light objects while cr with friends so you don't constantly open the friendship tree is something we shouldn't have to resort to.
I..just noticed that now i actually have two other email registered as Beta Tester and those Two email already got considered as Tester...
By all means, i already try Uninstalling the App few times and use those Two mails to see if the App appear available on them. The App available for Download on both of that Registered Email.
I forgot that we have a new instrument this season

How do find the music sheets?
I love the seasonal music in the area but one music sheet is a lovely rearraent of little prince music and the other one doesn't remind much of the seasonal area's vibe
Anyone feeling the 2nd music sheet ?
Hi
I very much like both music sheets. I'm so glad that they brought back the other one from SoLP.
I don't know if it was suppose to happen, but I received the manta cape a long time after it was originally sent to others. Was this supposed to happen
I also received it about 15 hours after it was initially released, not sure if it was intentional or not. Maybe the release was staggered
Ik this is offtopic but omgawddd who drew ur pfp 
The artist is in my bio, they did an amazing job 
I don't mind the ultimate gift but anyone else wished the hair could've been a been a different style?
I was kinda expecting a hair with straight bangs
Not to mimic the owl hair, not at all
I always wanted a long straight hair with straight bangs, since it gives off a "nerd" vibe
The ultimate reward feathers is actually an accessory, but it’s not apparent through promo material
And there's no ult hair this season:] It's an existing hairstyle from one of the regular constellations, forgot what constellation it's from tho
is it just me or are people in beta much more determined to light everyone than in live lol
compared to live, my beta constellation is almost empty lmao 
same! I don't really bother talking to people bc pretty much everyone is Chinese and even with the translator I have a tough time understanding them 
although one thing that stuck with me is that they call spirits "ancestors" 
that's what they're called sometimes 
that's what Jenova named them in Chinese
Hewwoo, can someone show me how it looks when 'wearing' the chair from mishief event?
We're asked not to honour outfit requests here, but if you try some discord searches in #beta-screenshots-videos with a few key words you should be able to find some 
Ahh okii I just want to decide which one to buy in live soon...the mischief chair or feast one
You will get the chance to try any event cosmetics with spells when the event goes live.
But feast and mischief won't be at the same time and who knows what upcoming events will contain
Okiee tyy
Good luck picking! 
Is the Black and White 2.0 still not done ? 😔
Been waiting so long for it to be done and in live
We don't have any new information on it as it stands. They're not currently in beta for purchase either. 
Never mind, I clearly haven't been checking enough for them. They do appear to be in beta for purchase, but still no word on live. 
Does anybody know when days of mischief actually arrive?
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
Is it October 4th back to back after days of summer lights? Or do I have to wait for horns 😭
Alright, ty! Good bot :)
! cant generally say but last year mischief was Oct 22nd - Nov 4th for a general idea (ofc thats likely to change this year but !!)
(Am I allowed to ask a question about what an item is currently priced at in beta? I’m aware it will likely change in live but I’d like to at least ask what it stands at currently. If not I’ll shut up and go away)
Yes
How much are the horns set to cost rn? My understanding is it’ll be real money. Also, how much is the chair?
Horns are 9.99 usd
Chair is 44 hearts
You can check all of the prices here
#beta-announcements message
Iirc the chair was reduced to 33 hearts
I wonder if the chair is worth it. I’m not sure which item i want from days of mischief when it comes to live.
The chair also recharges 👀
Ohh i see. I kind of want the hair but i liked the old versions better, and i’m a bit meh on the cape.
Has anyone counted the total amount of seasonal candles for the next season?
Actually if you want, you can go see NekaComposer Sky, it is like Picrew and you can use them to see if it good, the current Cosmetics there already updated until Season of Little Prince
326+ something
Someone count it before and put them in Seasonal channel before it gone
What do you think the date beta patch applied to live version?
!omgomgwhen
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
OvO
Is there supposed to be a finale Cut scene?
Not yet
Lol I received the Sanctuary Supreme Cape as a gift 🤡
I already had her🤡
That's not a gift. That's a test item. They would send a handful of sand if they could. 
Oh gosh :v
It was a stress test of inbox feature 
The inbox gifting feature is functioning correctly. Would like to see if there's a letter/message to tell the item purposes and why it's a feature.
Hummm I wonder what I could do with a handful of sand 🤔
It's not a gift and its for future mass compensation based on a criteria
Pocket sand!
Mini sand-castle 
Oooo iNtErEsTiNg
use sand attack
Thanks for the correction, but would like to include the explanation, if this feature is going up to Live version (we all know the creatures have their own behaviors when stranger things happens) 👀
I dont understand the second part of your message but you're free to search for Ktjn's statement about this feature which tells folks to stop overthinking it (put tinfoil hat down) it's only what it is, nothing more

The inbox feature and getting items from TGC is already a feature in live. (That's how Android users got compensation for the crashes/black screen) The item we received in beta was just a test on certain criteria to see if it worked. (I.E. only users who met the criteria should have received the item)
Where's skybot with "it's not that deep fam" now?
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
Not that deep meme please, Skybot
Im sad we can't trigger it
Watch me.
Hey skybot who's Ktjn?
Welp. I tried
Ooh..is this a pokémon reference?
We only have one flight star right. Just clarifying?
in the wind paths? yes
Yup. Copy
So far, beta testers have only seen one star in the wind paths area. A plus side, though is the ease of access to hermit valley and ark stars. (Instead of being forced to wait through the cutscenes)
Havent find the perfect way to access the airplane. Instead of rocket trick of course. But some said theres an unblocked hile in the cloud. If its proper
I-.. so.. uh idk if this important.. if it isn’t I’ll delete the msg.. but-
the manta cape-
It was meant for those who didn’t get it in sanctuary season in beta-..right?
I joined beta when it was season of dreams and somehow got it-
Is it okay?? Or I wasn’t supposed to get it-
panic 101
there is a hole the cloud at the far end, near the forgotten ark entrance to go above clouds
stress test criteria is undisclosed, but even people from the recent invite wave got it
you're fine. i got it even though i already had it. there was a hidden criteria that would have made you eligible to get it
Ah.. relieved to hear that-! Ty so much for replying 

Like beta Cape.. There should be a beta only item.. Like the words beta plastered on it. It should expire within few days.. So that it can be gifted again for stress testing
Seems many people who already had the manta cape received the message with the Cape in it. So it seems it is NOT functioning correctly if it is based on criteria. They said it would be sent to only the few who should have gotten it but didn’t. Many who already had it are getting it.
Fail.
I think it was also mentioned some who already have may also get it. If I read that right when it was announced
They never told us the criteria. I think you misread the message you are referencing. #beta-discussion message
its understandable theyre not disclosing the critera as it could cause some outcry about whatever users that criteria covers being 'favored' etc but yes
it was a stress test to help diagnose/fix the problems that happened when they were trying to compensate for the android crashes
it also could be because if we knew what the criteria was, then everyone would try to fulfil it if possible, which would make the test useless
A potential problem with what you're suggesting there is that it would require some new item behaviour added specifically for a beta-only testing purpose. Not only does that involve time and work spent on something that may never be used in live, but that may also create new bugs that would've never existed otherwise on the live version (e.g. items vanishing from live players' inventories specifically because something is triggering the beta-expiry behaviour that was put into the game with that suggestion)
And when next test happens...
"hey Where's my gift? I am eligible as per rule 33b and clause II Form 471A"
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
Well we already have very many beta only items that came and went. One still obtainable (invisi cape). Anything that would 'ease' your work is an investment not an expense. If people are salty over not getting an test only ultimate and causes ruckus every time you stress test... not to mention rumours about gifting ults and items in live... It would not be a waste of time to have a specific test item that no one can form rumours around or form Fomo bonds over it
That's a false belief. You confused the explanation why it was chosen with the criteria. The criteria is not disclosed and has nothing to do with who got it or should have. Check pins.
your suggestion doesn't involve only a cosmetic item though -- the main risk i'm seeing is the new behaviour of "an inventory item which expires after a certain time", which is programming behaviour that we haven't seen on any existing live item right now
A spell vanishes after you use it... It can literally be that... A ball spell with beta written on it
thats assuming they can send spells via inbox, which we dont know yet as the only items tested have been cosmetics
Not I'm just suggesting. But not assuming they can send. Suggestion is we have a beta only item that can be used for stress tests
My point is that lack of transparency causes confusion.
I understand
you should understand that for others the details are big causes of outcry. Beta is not to please everyone 
i'm not sure who started the rumor about it being a compensation or related to any kid of compensation, but that's not what the inbox test was for. was the inbox tech used in the android compensation for Live ? yes, but that has nothing to do with this particular test involving the manta cape.
⬆️ it was meant for testing even before it was added to beta
See this message
I'm not sure too but thank you for clarifying that we can drop that explanation too 
It was a great reply to users assuming big things and taking it as a gift tho. 
ah foreshadowing 
the nice thing about a historically highly contentious, highly coveted item, especially something involving an ultimate gift from a season that took place over a year ago and is no longer available, is that people will flock to open the message and claim the item, creating server stress on the systems that make inbox exist which is exactly what we needed.
and it did 😅
deer mask when? 
this is a joke, there is no confirmation of any other ults coming. would be nice though
Manta cape the greatest cape CONFIRMED
However I'm not fan of manta cape at all, genius trigger, Ktjn.
🧠
If it was deer mask people won't be sad for not getting it.
They would be furious
I hate that the tail in the Cape is not stiff. It kind of flutters upwards as it is the only thing extending from main cape. I think I'm not putting into words properly... But the manta Cape looks good more when the sky kid is on the ground than when flying imho
Deer mask folk are chill
It's the rhythm hairs I'm worried about 
Is this mean all sky kids will be able to have ultimate gifts from previous seasons in live or i understand it wrong?
no, this was just for testing purposes. anything we are getting does not reflect live
no, that's not what this was for, nor why i chose the manta cape.
Sanc moth me is happy with this

No
Yes
Wrong LOL. This time the manta cape was used only because that has a hype and many will login and claim it, so they could check if inbox was working. See Ktjn's message above "the nice thing..."
It could have been anything, the first time it was a red flower (that will not reach live) and this test was with a 1 year old cape.
I highly doubt they'll just give away ult gifts in live.
Vendo tacos
ults coming back at all hasn't really been discussed in over a year. i doubt that they're gonna come back any time soon
yeah no i wouldnt get your hopes up on returning ults anytime soon
honestly, next time to avoid the drama and rumors, i'm going to attach the default cape and hairstyles that people get for free from completing the tutorial. but i'm sure even more while rumors and speculation will take hold.
Okie lemme switch the convo
A while ago I said season of flight tops season of sanctuary on once aspects
Sanctuary islands is a great and cinematic area with perfect winged light / candles /wax distribution and interactive aspects. However
In season of sanctuary we don't really see any man-made building, the area isn't adapted for them like season of flight was.
In flight we see where they were dining, sleeping. Swimming and etc.
This is the aspect season of flight tops season of sanctuary
It won't be fair to bring back ultimate gifts from previous seasons 
moth gifts 
tier 2 brown cape confirmed?! 
OMG DEVS ARE MAKING A NEW MOFF CAPE??? NOT CLICKBAIT
That's a whole 'nother can of worms-
I mean will it be fair to let ults go extinct?
Let's say another 2 years passes and the 99%of people who owned deer mask no longer play sky.
Shall we let the deer mask go extinct?
some day we might offer ult gifts, which we've said for years now, but that has nothing to do with inbox testing or beta discussion, that can take place in #seasons-events-chat
I feel you Ktjn.
If you do A, that's the problem. If you do B, that's the problem. If you explain, that will be the problem because others on the other side say they can do it better

For legal reasons, this post is merely a joke and should be dismissed as such. Please the Krill agents are outside my house, don’t spread this around
Or have your words misinterpreted
Was the test a success then, Ktjn? Did the test yield useful data/results for y’all?
Too late.
I already sold screenshots to youtubers
you're going to always have krill around you when you're camping next to dismiss 
yes, the test was a success, we uncovered some issues with bulk messaging that caused some folks to either never receive their message or it took hours for it to arrive.
ktjn's krills are circling us, waiting for the right moment to bean us for creating outragous rumors that are not true 
✨ season of limenarcy ✨
"You won't believe what TGC is cooking up" title for a YT video that is cooking things up 😂
Fun fact
Tgc actually cooks things to prevent them appearing as majenta.
Idk I didn't go to kitchen. No not Ktjn. Kitchen
Except that one time during assembly
considering we caused server issues i'd say the test was successfully stressful
Can we fight krills too in next updates and seasons not only hiding and surviving ?
Yes texture baking. I attended that class.
no fighting krills, but there might be something to help you not die as much 
also i'm surprised beta testers, usually we just tell them vaguely, not give them a wafo 
yet
looks at wasteland elder's spear
After exploits and Home tricks getting patched here and there, I doubt they'll give us a fighting chance besides of hiding 
What if?
A new mini game
Explode all mini krills to win a price of 0.25 candle
I wish we could at least throw pillow props at krills

Trick the krill with the pumpkrill 
Daily task:
Admire a krill in the graveyard for some time ✅
For 1.0 candles!
Sacrifice your life and soul for our lord and savior megabird (price: 1 candle)
Krill fight! Train a krill and become a krill master!
did you do it?
yes
what did it cost?

Now krills always win the battle
In future
Sky kid vs krill
One winner, One surviver
Only wondering if I can take my revenge from them 
I just want the ability to kill crabs 🙏 Those gray meat balls are such jerks
Killing will very unlikely come to Sky
killing is bad
for a short period of time, we had the ability to pop crabs and get wax from 
We can still pop them.... Speaking about crabs. I wonder why I see them as inactive bugged (as if they were made out of Eden dust - black particles) more than in live.
you can WHAT crabs 👀
how do you do this ive tried in live but they never do anything
i think it has something to do with server merges because whenever that happens its always during a merge for me?
maybe beta just merges more often since there are less players overall
Only during short time days of fortune beta test iirc, before they made boba
I still wish they kept it in. My live skykid will never know the joy my beta skykid had by popping firecrabbers.
It was cut because it was a bit too violent iirc?
I forget exactly why. I think some people saw it as cruelty or something. Here's a video of what it looked like: #beta-screenshots-videos message
yeah i can see why itd be mistaken for animal(?) cruelty
it does look a little hilarious though
I remember the patch notes being so funny for no reason
#beta-announcements message reminds me of films that state "no animals were harmed during blah blah."
"to ensure no crabs are harmed during days of fortune , the felicitous visitor will deliver a different sort of gift"
Awh man, I spent a good 2 minutes writting that TwT
I can't believe it's been that long since days of fortune , wdym it's been 8 months already
For some reason the video isn’t loading for me.
Works for me on PC and my phone. 
I’ll post a video of it too
so im not in beta but curious, is days of mischief only iaps? im planning to buy them either way but i wanna know if i need to save candles
There were some items for in-game currency, it was listed in the #beta-announcements post when that content was released
#beta-announcements message
Do note that prices may change when it goes to live, but that has the prices listed when they were testing (although I believe the price for the table was changed to 33 hearts instead of 44)
Hi I wanna ask something. Do you all still having the unholding hand bugs when we enter the realms and another areas? Its been happening a lot lately, idk why but it appears after Juggler came. Should I report it too?
You will need candles and hearts for the witch hair, the spooky table and the autumn cape.
very excited for the uneasy stance and baby bird call
i used to do the uneasy stance a lot irl but i stopped doing it for a reason i cant remember 
Ahh, I see. I remember now. Thanks to the link above. 😅
I'm not 100% sure what you meant with your previous message but just in case...
There's a Witch Hair, it costs candles.
There's the Witch Hat, it's an iap and in the hair closet.
And then there's the witch hat spell, it's at the spell shop and gives you a witch hair to wear without replacing your hair
It replaces your current hair accessory, though. I.E. if you're wearing a flower, it will disappear to show the hat.
Yup! As any other cosmetic spell does 
Are they gonna make the furniture solid again for strangers? (;-;)
Friends only
Ohh gotcha. Thank goodness! Was afraid of table trolls coming again. 
Oh... on second thought... my friends are the trolls. (;-;)
why does the kalimba have you hammer to play it? the hammer is used for tuning, not for playing 
I don't think skykid use hammer?
lemme try
Update: no, no hammer here
ohh, huh
maybe it was updated, i havent checked...
is antlers and spider hair iap and if so how much
yes, scroll up in #beta-announcements for a price list
I thought I read someone saying somewhere that the mischief table recharges your light - is this actually what it does? And if so, I’d love to know how. Being near it, sitting on a chair?
I didn't buy the table but there's a candle on it so probably similar to days of feast table?
Ah okay that makes sense
I was wondering whether it would be a contender to replace the torch due to having recharge and chat properties, but if the recharge is very slow it may not be useful in all the realms
You can place it on a WL spot for faster recharge added by WL
does anyone know what and how much the last item (like the sword outfit from last season) gonna cost?
No item up top for this season, at least that's how it is in beta. Just a friendship emote (hug I think) and a heart.
that's not why the price was reduced, and there were no changes to the recharge rate. please be careful to avoid spreading incorrect information.
Is the witch hat without hair only for spells?
yes, the hair accessory version is only a spell
There's a new feature that makes accesories not clip too much, is that applied to flight accesories as well?
Feels like it is applied
Why does only beta has a translator in chat? I want this translator in live too.
The feature doesn't work properly and still is in development.
We don't really know when it will be added or will it be added at all.
It doesn't seem like it is in active development currently.
But it works fine with me in beta. I can understand others.
Yes but it glitches a lot for me and it isn't quite user friendly and easy to use yet
Hope it will be improved someday and available in live too.
Maybe as option if you click the text. Not just copy if you click.. There should be a option. To copy or translate...
And other question: how do you do, if somebody send a qr code link in chat. How can i add them without closing the app?
A machine translator can never be perfect. I don’t know why they keep stalling on releasing it.
someone was playing stay - blackpink on the kalimba and i ascended into heaven 👼
I want to play all the Kpop too!
How many anti-Krill Spells can I buy during a Halloween event? One a day, for one ascension candle?
The testing of Halloween event is over. Please refer to live when it wil come, beta numbers can vary because of testing
when will Days of mischief begin?
We don’t know, exact dates will be announced in #news (But most likely mid-to-end October obviously, don’t quote me on that)
Beta testers just get builds for testing, we don't have inside information (that would be unfair to have btw). Expect it around Halloween. 👻
Simple: candle
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
One of the quests is rly hard to do, the burning one
If I recall correctly, we have in-game translate working in beta?
The beta channels aren't for asking previews (in images or text alike) of things currently under testing, so a few messages here have been deleted. If you are not a tester and you are just wondering how things look, feel free to take a look at #beta-screenshots-videos but don't make requests. If you are a tester, please don't answer these requests if you see them. The season and the event will be in Live soon 
The translate is really handy! T_T (tears of little happiness)
It appears that we don't get the exact same translation. That's really interesting.
Hey ! Anyone knows if the red flower given as a gift is to be implemented in live ?
No it's not a gift, it's a test item to test whether inbox feature was working as intended. It can be wiped anytime
No, it's not gonna come live as per now
Nope, that item was for a holiday on the netease server. We only got it for testing since it was an item no one had in beta. Nothing more to it
okay thankx for the replies !
Ktjn said it won't-scroll down after clicking the message for a more lengthy explanation 
#beta-discussion message
I find it kinda hilarious it was grimaced/dreaded what could have happen if instead of a red flower, it was a seasonal item or an ultimate, and then lo and behold, beta gets Manta Cape 
When is the next invite wave?
Where will TGC send it?
I reaaaaally Wana join beta
@prisma crystal please don't discuss or encourage the use of APKs. Downloading illegitimate copies of the game is against the Terms of Service and could contain malware. Trying to use APKs will result in download problems and may result in account data loss and inability to contact TGC support. APKs cannot be used to bypass the device incompatibility.
Why dude
hello i wonder if its fine to ask here but i wonder,is Flight QG shorter compared to Rhythm?
Lol
@limpid flower beta invites will be opened when TGC needs more active testers
@prisma crystal the message almost right above you has a link to a message of Ktjn regarding the red flower: it won't reach live
Thank you
... Its a bot doing its job smh 
I have no idea what you just said but:
Skybot is simply discouraging you and anyone here from using apks.
specially when its about entering beta without an invite 
The only reason it pinged you was becuase you triggered it with your words, downloading apks will possibly put malware on your phone or tablet and it just doesn't benefit tgc at all
😳

Thinking 💭

Apologies for my sarcasm 
Its been... a very long time since rhythm
perhaps someone will make a comparison when the season goes live. Maybe someone already has and is waiting to post it
but they're both pretty short
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!
Don't forget the shortest questgiver 
i found an old screenshot but flight qg is not standing by the same portal today, they look slightly shorter than rhythm qg tho
buuut that could just be me and theyre the same height 
Why do we care about QG height so much
/gen
Laughs in rose 
I posted screenshots in #beta-screenshots-videos for comparison, I think Flight guide is slightly shorter or the same height 🤔
oh my
For the fanart/memes, Prophecy guide was the pinnacle
for me it would be for art purposes atm------
Eh, my question here dissapeared so im guessing I wasn't allowed to ask then? Didn't see any ping, so- sorryy. 
Probably hit the filter
Mno it was up earlier today and someone answered too

Was a question if 2 masks clipped with the feathers ult (not a request for screenshots tho), its oke.
Just expected the mod to ping me if i did do smt wrong :,)
oh that question, i guess the mods considered it an outfit request and beaned it 
Pinging you now to link to this message I sent earlier— I didn't ping because you weren't the only member the message was directed to, and we also avoid pinging when not necessary or could be misunderstood as a harsher warning. It's all good! 
#beta-discussion message

Hi everyone, how much season candles to finish season? Just for refer. Thanks
It fits in the season, but only by 3 days for non ap users I think...of course it could change by Live.
But should fit within 77days/11weeks , I hope anyway
By moderator Mirian
#beta-discussion message
We dont have any charts for candle prices unfortunately, since we're discouraged from doing so during testing. Anything can change between now and when the season starts
I can, in fact, confirm that Flight Guide is shorter than Rhythm Guide 
chibi quest giver when
luckily we already have one with a tiny spell, the rose
Imagine if rose was the same size as a regular skid... Or if all of the quest givers were scaled to the same height
I wonder if we'll be getting any biiiig seasonal guides again later on that we can emote with -- high five attempt just results in us slapping their knee 
Plus size seasonal guides and plus size skids let's goo!!!!!
i want one the size of eden portal
I'll be satisfied with one similar to fire prophet
fire prophet but a bit taller
I'd like a sequel to prophecy that expands on the lore of prophets
Psssst. I have something for you 
||UNDERWATER SEASON WITH A SECONDARY PLOT LINE OF WATER PROPHET TEACHING HOW TO HOLD YOUR BREATH FOR LONG TIME AND STUMBLING UPON THE BLUE LIGHT||
How would the other prophets be like? 
now youre just going into off topic >_>
#seasons-events-chat I replied there
Beta task: What is your dream Job?
Me: Lively Navigator
how many candles do y’all think i’ll need for the halloween event? i’m sitting at a 220 right now
You can check the beta prices in #beta-announcements, but please be aware that those are still subject to change, for reliable information on the live, wait until the event is announced in #news .
understood!
patch notes say we're gettin a 99wc item and a 66wc item, so you'll probably be fine unless the prices rise between now and mischief
sorry, but what does wc mean? 😅
I guess white candle
white candle
Anyone else notice the new haptic feedback when losing stars in the constant rock rain? Seems to only be in beta in my initial testing. (I.E. if a rock that hits you makes you lose WL in the constant rain, once it hits, and you have haptic feedback turned on, your device will do a slight vibration)
Imma go get hit by a rock I guess 
Yeah, it's one of the things you cannot share through video or pictures. It would be cool if somehow recording your device screen also recorded haptics, though. 
update im reaching orbit, nothing new yet
You didn't get haptics on the rocks?
nope
however one thing i noticed in ascend as you progress the bells ring in higher tone with each bell and they ring 7(?) times
I'm wondering if I should report it as a bug then. My phone definitely vibrated when I lost stars in the constant rain and only when I lost stars. (I was lucky last night's run and got hit by a few rocks in the constant rain and didn't lose stars, those times my phone didn't vibrate, only when stars were lost.)
i went through the normal path and was on ⚡⚡ mode
felt no vibrations whatsoever at all at any time
Hmm... Haptic feedback is turned on in settings? Maybe it got turned off somehow?
through phone settings right? imma check
Isn't there an option in game, now?
Odd. I wonder which is supposed to happen. No haptic feedback or yes haptic feedback.
(yeah, logged in to see where the setting was for vibration)
I would also suggest checking device settings for haptic feedback as well, just to make sure it isn't reliant on device settings.
it's on too....
That is... Strange... We're both Android, so it isn't platform issue... Hmm...
Does your device do soft haptics or is it only hard vibrations? They were slight ones, like the feedback I get when typing on my phone's keyboard or when a flame icon pops up to burn something
its huawei p20 pro on android 10 if this helps
i do get vibrations from other games, imma go to eden again just to be sure
I wish there was a way to record the haptic feedback to share. 
may i know whats a haptic feedback, i can try and test it out
Would they have enabled haptic only there? What about krill attacks, random bonks?
Your phone vibrating to something, like how you can have haptic feedback on your screen keyboard, or the slight vibrations you get when next to something to burn.
You make a sound manually when it vibrates and record video with mic sound ON 
Maybe honk... But no actual proof, still here say.
But on the topic... I never thought of testing the haptic. I'm gonna test random bonks, valley jump and landing in various places and krill attacks. I don't have the drive to go to eden and then to WL run 
People WL run in beta?
I just fly around with my rebirth WLs.
i say "im keeping my skid at 5 flaps for testing purposes"
when in fact im just lazy too recollect them back
self exposed
I also don’t wl run in beta unless I just happen to be passing by somewhere
What about losing WL to crabs or dark water?
maybe haptic is set to losing WL, not things like bonks.
I didn't notice the haptic was from the rocks until about half way through pnr. It was very subtle unless you pay attention. (I initially thought it was a partially muted messaging group I'm in that has similar vibrations, then checked and no new messages were in it)
anyone wanna be friends in beta (send me qr)
I like having atleast 10 for exploring purposes.
so update
this time i turned both music and sound effects off
getting krilled - nothing
getting crabbed - nothing
getting redrocked - nothing
regular rock rain - nothing
constant rock rain - nada
HOWEVER
as i said both sound effects and music were off but when i was loosing WL there were sounds (like oil cooking and exploding, like 5 popcorns popping in another room, sorta, cant describe that sound properly)
Looks like haptic is enabled only for ui feedback. Any clickable ui event triggers it. But no amount of bonk damage has haptic
That's odd. And you get haptic feedback when doing UI actions, like burning plants, offering handhold, lighting friends, etc?
i got no haptic from the constant rain rock 
what i noticed is sometimes when i lost winged lights there was no popping sound at all
and the popping sound was present even when not loosing any winged light
when loosing sometimes it made a loud popping sound which i would mistake for vibration but since it's not always i doubt
i think i can feel some slight vibration from burning plants tho
come to beta and save me from rock storm lets test
wait i have chibi in beta i can save myself
I'll be going again in a short while. Trying to see if there is an app to debug haptic feedback and show values on my screen to get it on video. (Edit: need to put this adventure on hold, RL calls)
Wait, p20 pro... I can potentially try to replicate on my end the absence of haptics with my old p20 pro. I usually play without haptics since they drive me bonkers, but for testing purposes... Are we looking at haptic feedback from a controller, or from the phone/device itself?
Can also test with my current lg, just for more data
Haptic from phone. When you get hit by the constant rock rain and lose WL, you may get haptic feedback. At least, I did. No one else in this chat claim they have felt it. Makes me think I'm going nuts. 
I got no vibrations at all
But there is a loud popping sound when a rock hits you (not always) that can be confused with vibration
I'm still overdue for an eden run in beta... I'll see if I can replicate on my velvet sometime today. Assuming my p20 pro cooperates, I'll try to get a run in with it as well (it's been a little wonky since the latest system update)
Sometimes when I lose wl in constant rain there's no sound whatsoever
I have both music and sound effect off but when in constant rain there's continuous minor popping sounds and a singular big one when hit by a rock (not all the times)
I play beta with headphones or muted, so what I experienced was vibrations in my hands and not popping from my headphones. 
hmmmmmming intensifies
Popping sound... That actually sounds kinda like what I get when i try to record with the built in screen recorder with system sounds instead of mic (one of the bugs that popped up with that update)... Were you recording footage when you encountered this?
Nope.
When I try to record using the built in screen recorder there is no sound whatsoever, just random pops,
When I was in eden I had music and sound effects off and heard the noise.
Wait I'll try to record it with another screen recorder
The same oil cooking sound happens when I am sliding down the valley towards ice rink when music and sound effects are muted. It is more like the same "thud" sound effects when I land on ice as my skykid is randomly sliding through without any control... But a more muted thud.
I think I can record the popping sounds... Lms
Sorry it took me so long I forgot I changed my reset point so I had to go through the whole eden again. Imma trim the videos and post in #beta-screenshots-videos
Just shared couple of videos where I have been having muted thuds aka popping sounds
Looks like some sounds escape even the mute in the game. Dark forces at play...
May be the mute doesn't cut off the sound rather filters it out...? And specific effects still come through even with 🔕 since they didn't get filtered out?
Haven't tested here in beta, but yeah — same happened when passing jelly and other creatures in the eden castle (in live). Only had the music slider enabled
Funny thing about that video. The unmuted sounds you're getting when being hit is when I would get haptic feedback. Still haven't found an app that displays it. I might just have to pull device logs and show timestamps on the video.
Now that you mention I think I have heard the same. I mostly play with music and sounds off... But hadn't been to eden in ages. Valley is something I regularly visit so I remembered this
I just turned off the sound from my phone and got hit a bit more.
Still no vibrations whatsoever
May be there is a mysterious criteria.. And it(haptic) is enabled only for a few players
/j
unless the real haptics are the friends we made along the way
Don't open that door 
Can you hear them? They are all your friends... 
My friends are Emma Jean and Ari
✨ emmajeanari ✨
||in case y'all didn't get it. It says imaginary ||
Do they live in a specific nation 
Emma Jean Nation
Speaking of haptics, I might try it in a controller if I have a free time later 🎮
does anyone know where the elevated mediation spot is for todays quests?
Didn't complete quests here in beta, but I think it's in forest-end (after elder temple).
Elevated is the one in sunny forest
elevated... isn't that in sunny forest?
uzephi fast 
Oh there :o
ooh ok ty!! i found it :3
Season of metro (subway)
Hi guys so I have a question, what is the general name for the new call this season? I’ve seen some people calling it chibi manta call and some calling it baby bird call etc (feel free to ping me)
BirbCall ™
Ah okay thank you lolol
Hello everyone, Sorry to disturb you at this time. and I am sorry that English is not my first language, but I will try my best to be clear about what I mean.I just want to know when TGC will do some things with hackers and offending clients. Because they have really affected my normal game atmosphere. Recently I played with friends, you know sometimes we have 8 people, but there are some stranger who can Piggy back WITHOUT your consent, and our friends can not join us. We HAVE TO go home again and again, BUT they also go home with us and laughed at us all the time, We have no choice but to choose to go offline and wait for 5 minutes. I don’t want to discuss where these hacker got this kind of plug-in, But I just want to tell TGC!:They just said that the reason come to international server and usecheating is that TGC will never ban them, even if they are banned, they will re-open a new account with the illegal client, equipped with all the items, and can do whatever they want (Including piggyback). I know Ktjn said do not pay too much attention to hackers, but I want to say, these hackers have seriously affected me and my friends, I hope TGC can do something with this problem. Because we all love this game, most people spend their time, energy, and feelings here to make friends and enjoy the warmth that this game brings us, We don’t want to see the game gradually decline due to hackers.
This feels like something that would be better to post in #live-feedback since it's not really beta-related. And also so that TGC will see it, since the staff don't always read everything in these channels when they're busy and all
being offended and publicly angry toward hackers is exactly what they want, that message belongs in feedback
Send this to #live-feedback! That way it'll be sent directly to TGC 
Please note this is not tgc contact channel 
Sky staff Ktjn stated they take necessary steps against hackers but obviously they won't disclose what and in what measures.
Please also note hacker discussion is not allowed on this official server. 
All the best you can do is contact ThatHelpBot or move this to #live-feedback
no vibration from phone either but then my phone never vibrates at all.. i turn off vibrations.. sorry for the late ping
Maybe Huawei didn't implement haptic feedback correctly. More data points would be welcome when someone goes through Eden next. I tried again and got haptic feedback only in the constant rain when losing stars.
It's all good. It would be best to test with vibrations on. It has the same feel as opening constellation or lighting friends. Just the light vibration.
The same oil cooking sound > I usually hear it after long period of sky game play.. both in live and beta... Looks like some sounds escape even the mute in the game. Dark forces at play... > Yes , i used to hear the attacked from the krills despite muting my sky... but think it has been fixed now.. at least for my phone model..
=_= just on beta to find out vibration was on all the time but no vibration in game for me.. but my phone is often not on vibrating mode too..
I guess since my phone is the only one experiencing the haptic feedback, I'll fill out a bug report a bit later after some more thorough testing.
To be honest, it would be a nice "feature," really immersive. I will be sad if it's just a bug. 
Just here to gush as this seasons testing comes to a close:
Flight season feels like tgc on their A game. Assembly/Little prince were very charming albeit experimental, but Flight is solidly S tier modern Sky quality imo. I can't wait to see how the live audience will take it 
I've always been an animation geek. Chris & Scott, your work is awesome and I'm an avid admirer 
Hey uh does anyone know where the elevated forest clearing is located for today's meditation quest?
sunny forest
the end?
the constellation gate that requires 8 forest spirits. Right under the 1st winged light in the area.
#beta-screenshots-videos message for future reference if anyone else needs to find it. 
Am I the only one meeting lots of players with manta capes (sanctuary ults) recently
#beta-announcements will tell you why a good chunk of beta players have it legitimately.
Ohhh Thanks for clarifying 
We have a new animator that joined for this season also, named Susie! I'll pass along your regards to her 
Say Hi for me please!! 
how do i make sure it's linked
Just be sure to use the Google account or Apple ID you signed up for beta as the primary on the new device and do the regular account link in game. You should be fine.
A good example of this: (your@gmailhere.com needs to be the main login for either Google Play Store or Test Flight to install beta on the new device) Do not try that email address, it's an example bogo email
the spirit is called Light Whisperer is technically its called Light Call
I love that giant bird so much why would you guys tease me like that if it's not in the season 
Is there a Season of Flight price chart out yet?
There will be one once the season starts in live and the finalized prices can be confirmed
I wanted it to be a part of the season as some sort of easter egg you’d see flying in the distance, I’m sure I’ve left it in feedback but that has been since… we began testing the season
who knows what will change when the the season is in live 
I do.
IS THAT A CHICKEN????
P. S. We most likely won't see em in the season in their most current form because according to a theory that is becoming more and more popular that chicken (same as the one from Nintendo trailer) is the pre corrupted krill.
When spirits died there was noone to tame them and so they started starving (krills are hungry for your light/quote) and over a loooong time they evoluted into krill and got corrupted
Again. This is only a theory
Well the final cutscene for the season hasn't been revealed yet, maybe the bird could be some sort of easter egg there?
Perhaps in one of the big darkness rocks that manta crashes there's a chicken hiding so they free them.
Wafo
Naurrr 
To be honest, I'm still kind of confused about what the story for this season actually is. Because to me it still just seems like them doing random things and then that's it?
Can't wait for pre-corrupted krill in the spirits art 
Later on it seemed they’re just trying to get the wind paths back online
Yeah but that's what's weird though is because that's how it started. The first quest is clearing the wind paths so you can access them, and then for the 5th quest it's the same thing? Doesn't make much sense to me
Just tested on my velvet, got the same popping sound, but I also got no vibrations at all (save vibrations from the phone speakers) even with haptic maxed out for system. Going to check with my p20 pro in a bit
much of the 5th quest was still in a placeholder state, so stay tuned for changes. we listened to feedback and did some reshaping of story/quest flow
Interesting, I guess I'll be looking forward to that then 
Imma start making raccoon memes so Ktjn gives us the 0.15.5 update early
patience fam, we're still making cool stuff! Occasionally I'm sure the team would like to get some sleep. 
🦝
🥼
🦝.
would these changes, perhaps, maybe, hopefully, include a very large bird who I love very much?
We'll have to W - A - F - O 
Funf fact. Ur ex wife is an ex birb.
Maybe that's why you want to meet a birb so much Bea? Maybe you still aren't over her???
Im totally telling all this to prophecy guide 
I keep having to catch myself before I call the bird Martha in front of people who don't get it 
You ain't THAT famous yet 
Nope, and I hope I never am
Btw. I told prophecy guide. He says don't come home tonight he's packing his things and moving to forgotten ark.
I wonder why 
That's odd. I would suggest with headphones like I did to make sure.
#beta-screenshots-videos raccoons there!
Seasonal guide official height chart when?
Ah, I found it! So, if you do not have haptics for "wounds and some attacks" per 175179's patch notes, I would submit a bug report. It's supposed to happen. (I should have searched and checked patch notes, first.
)
So I do need to report it as a bug?
I am supposed to have them?
If your device supports haptic feedback and it's enabled, yes.
One of the wounds is red rocks. I'll check more on a device with it enabled on what else causes haptic feedback now
Good news, no need to go to pnr, apparently crabs and krill also give haptics... I just never tested before now or got hit by them to notice.
As a current animation student I have a lot to learn but it's so much fun, I love seeing works in motion. Welcome Susie!
No vibrations in the controller 👀 it does support vibrations tho. I'll test that later in switch 
Just finished confirming that my p20 pro is also lacking, both with and without headphones/speakers connected. Time to prepare some bug reports ^^;
Haptics is a little different than vibration. Haptic feedback is the slight vibrations some controllers lack support for. For example, my old Z2 Force didn't support haptic feedback, just basic vibration. (And it's not that old of a Flagship device.)
The great manta looks different in the news image 😀
Apparently, you can feel someone in frame get crabbed... Now how to test getting krilled this way....
Edit: not me getting crabbed 20,000 times and hugging GF for recharge to get crabbed some more.
i have one of those USB controllers but i can never get it working with ANY of the games i own. i just want to play gamecube on my laptop :sadcat:
Mods? WHERE?! 
Hello pfp buddy 
was the elder manta in sanctuary beta?
I’m on iOS and have haptics enabled. I felt a small kickback when attacked by crabs. Just wanted to contribute to the haptics conversation 
Elder manta is the huge whale like creature that circles the sanctuary islands after completing the final quest
Uh does anyone remember the candle prices of the days of mischief?
hair was like 66 candles, and cape is 99?
You can try to browse on #beta-announcements Version 0.15.0 Build 175719. Keep in mind that those may or may not change once released in Live.
I'll try to remember to turn on haptics, which I absolutely abhor (lol), to test it out later today. I mean, it's fairly common in console games, after all.
I don't have this. Is it because my device or the controller I use, or both?
If you also get haptic feedback lighting candles, burning plants, opening home's constellation plate and lighting friends, you should also feel the haptic feedback when getting crabbed, krilled or pelted by red rocks. It could be limitation on controller or your device or the vibration setting in Sky's "control" settings, or disabled in your device settings under sound and vibration. (if haptics is supported, it should say "Vibration & Haptics" in your phone's setting menu to toggle on or off. Some devices have it under accessibility)
I've been calling it baby manta call 😭
I mean, it'd probably be called that way. Yeah, baby manta call like how people call Memory Whisperer (White cape)'s from Vault the ghost/cosmic manta call
I was testing the haptics, which definitely work fine on my device.
I was is the first eden area to take some damage by the rocks.
There i lost wings then the screen turned white and came back with me being fully lit, but not charged and two wings lost. I never experienced that, because i ussualy don't take damage there. Is this supposed to happen?? If so then why is it not consistent? It happned twice and in two other attempts i took damage without the white screen and me being a shadow.
Video is in screenshots. Can someone review it so i have a better understanding and know if i need to file a report.

#beta-screenshots-videos message
Pixie, I have definitely experienced wing loss there sometimes and saw others be hurt as well. The white screen however (and coming back lit) have never seen
Never experienced white screen either.
Yeah exactly. I expected wingloss. I wanted to feel the haptic feedback, but the white screen is so odd and being respawned in a different spot as where i took damage.
Edit:
to bug reports i go.
why dont you guys just say vibrational feedback
there is no force, ultrasound, or thermal feedback in sky
Hello, which one to buy? Withered Horns or Reindeer Horns?
Entirely up to you!
I am asking people's preferences because I cannot decide on my own yet 😂
HELP
Pls
depends on how you dress really, we can't decide for you 
if i were you, id prefer reindeer horns, but withered horns is something a dark outfit would fit
Which one do you think is better then 😂
Reindeer horns becouse it got ears and its cute
neither, i don't care about them
I'm more of a Halloween person but I like them reindeer horns
Finally! Some people 😂 answered me. Thank u
also halloween and the winter solstice are far enough apart that you might be able to get both if you save up and they're cheap enough
Agreed
I see 👁️👁️ thank u
Because it's the correct term for it.
Alltough similar the difference between vibrational feedback and haptic feedback lies in the complexity of vibrational patterns.
Haptics uses a variety of advanced waveforms to convey information back to the player. 
Are you guys talking about the horns from last Christmas?
is it true that u start off as a moth when u join beta
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Ah I just can’t find certain things but thank you sm!
Beta and live are two seperate apps, thus separate accounts. Nothing can be transferred between them.
Your questions are answered in there, specifically the ones about accounts and item crossover.
sips tea time for my ramblings.
it honestly depends on your aesthetic! they’re both really fun cosmetics, though the withered horns have a more dark/apocalyptic/evergreen feel to it compared to the reindeer horns. the spooky horns go well with warm/black colors (cool colors work too!) and has good outfit potential if you’re leaning towards that! the reindeer horns are definitely taller in size and has ears, though they’re more natural in it’s design/aesthetic. if you’re looking for a more cute/majestic, animal-like accessory this one is definitely better for you. not getting either of them is an option as well if you end up not wanting to get anything! 
this is all just my opinion though! take it with like, one piece of salt 
oh no i pinged you, deepest apologies!
Oooo season of cyber punk when 
Hello i see a hacker in beta sky Cotl he's playing with my sister
!reportfaq make sure to report them, that's pretty much all we can do
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
It's too bad

When are WE going to have our special sticker??? 😭
What can I do??
Read this message on how to report the hacker @quiet bough
Ok good
uh oh, did #beta-known-issues take a trip down south?
I think the bug report channels also moved
looks like it's in the normal spot
ah. it was fixed
that was fast
the channel wanted to stretch their legs for a bit
the bug channels were dancing though 
Why isn’t report a live bug named bug report ios 
its because it was the original bug report channel before android and switch were released. it doesn't matter though, since clicking the flame takes you to the same place anyways
Is it just me or do anyone else have constant "app stop working" and screen freezings?
Please don't tell me the floating floor change is coming to live
the what change?
Where you can't fall through Vault's floating floor with emotes
They are determined to patch every hole and shortcut in vault...I hope we still have some or they add proper elevator music for the slow ride up
protest that!!! protest that as hard as you can in fedback i love goign under the floor in vault, its one of my faves oobs
I really dislike that change and really, really don't want to see it in live
slap that complaint in feedback if u havent already, itll be seen better
I've left feedback about it multiple times. I just have no idea why they felt the need to "fix" it
i know if you do it from the top top top it's almost impossible to get back up without enough wings so i GUESS its meant to prevent people from getting stuck? but you gotta spam emotes for a long time to get down there from that height
While some bugs might migrate to "accidental features" it's up to the game creator to decide if to keep it in as that or fix the bug. Seems TGC went the route of fixing the bug when they had the free hands to fix it.
Being able to explore Vault by falling through the floor is the best thing about Vault
is falling through the floor necessary for exploration, you can just save time by exploring normally
You can't explore all the same places if you explore normally, so yes
how so
The bottom of the 4th floor can't be accessed normally, players normally need to drop through the floating barrier to get there. It's not necessary to explore at all, but something that people might've enjoyed
You can get between the invisible and solid walls around the upper three floors, for example, which gives you some really neat views of Vault. Plus, I sometimes enjoy visiting the pit underneath Archives. I call it the Abyss
I think there're still other ways of getting down through the floating barrier, but I can see why people would still be unhappy with having one of their OOB routes removed
there's still a chance theyl revert it if enough people complain, the devs do have a list of popular/beloved oobs so theyd otn accidentally patch em
ah gotcha, I thought you were referring to normal exploration as in non-oob
Sorry, I did mean the OOBs, yeah. I love Vault OOBs; they're super fun
What's so neat about Vault OOBs is that you never really feel like you leave Vault, if that makes sense. You fall, and you reach a solid floor at the bottom. You run into solid walls. So you're OOB, but you're still inside, too
WAIT OMG THEY ADDED THE FRIEND CONSTELLATION BUTTON ON SWITCH
please remember to take discussion about the live update to #general-sky-discussion and #cozy-sky-discussion 
Fixing things that prevent or block normal progress for the average player who does not want or like to go out of bounds will always take precedence. I'm sure the most clever oobers will find a new way to traverse Vault.
This isn't a new philosophy by any means.
Thank you, I do appreciate being given a reason behind the change. I honestly don't really think that would prevent normal progress for anyone, even if you stumbled on it accidentally, but obviously I'm just one player with my own experiences
Yes. Epicurus told — 'Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for.'
We know a certain corner of the community likes to go out of bounds, and we do try to preserve some of those where is makes sense and doesn't cause harm to others.
there's still ways to get down there, they just require you to intentionally make it happen
People dropping out of the elevator floor and getting stuck below would create confusion and frustration for someone who didn't know how to get back up. Enough so that they may never log in again.
As someone who sees walls as a suggestion, I am okay with this fix. Many times in my moth days, I would fall through that floor when trying to go home and it prevent me from it. I welcome this change for other newer players who just want a quick way home instead of oobing by accident.
We have a duty of care for all our players, not just the hardcore explorers and out-of-bounds travelers.
Was that something that was happening? I never experienced that personally, so thank you for the perspective. Also, while this change in particular frustrates me, I do want to make sure you know that I sincerely appreciate your efforts to preserve other beloved OOBs, which is something that I was admittedly forgetting some in my rant. I also recognize there are a number of other nice changes in this update
Can we talk about the controller mapping though? This isn’t working at all…
#live-feedback would be the place for controller feedback now
I’ve left feedback in beta already
I'm aware
the feature is live now, so we generally ask that discussion move to the live channels
it doesn't mean the feedback was ignored, it may mean that it was reviewed and other decisions were made, or that changes may occur in a future update. the team is still making changes and updates to accommodate a variety of playstyles/controller use.
Forgive the confusion, people here were extensively discussing the Vault floors 
I can talk about why level design changes were made from a design perspective, but not so much regarding controllers, which is why i will redirect some conversation and feedback and not others.
but you are correct, the vault conversation should also shift out of the beta channels.
Thank you for giving your reasons, I really appreciate having a better understanding of why it should be this way or that, or why something is appropriate for a channel and something else isn’t.
I tend to talk shop in beta chat cuz it moves slower and I can generally give better/more thoughtful responses without drowning in the sea of more active channels. Also no spoiler tags needed

I see you, @vapid briar, you should probably sleep, brah 
I hear something about a afk mode thats real?
afk has been in for a while, so not sure what you mean by "real"
Skybot: It's already 2:00 pm, time to sleep!
Something about you can't get ligh if you are afk
skybot knows i'm running on like 4 hours of sleep 
Yeah Ktjn could you specify on that
You have stay touching the Windows of the móviles everytime is that real? Or is a fake New the afk mode
Ktjn, why? You work hard, get some sleep when you can
I have really awful insomnia, it's not unusual tbh.
I will say that was nice to be able to talk a little here with people who are already familiar with the changes in the new update, but I'll move any other discussion about it elsewhere since the update's been live for a bit now. Thanks for giving the design perspective on it, Ktjn 
Guys its real if you are in afk you can't get light?
I think they're talking about how being afk for 15 minutes in live now stops wax collection and in patch notes, it does state it not working was due to a bug that has been fixed.
Better ask that in #questions-and-help since the patch is now in live
I'm still sad the AFK timer is even still a thing... 😞
Yeah tbh its a little bit unfair imo
I feel like in some situations I understand the reason for it
But like everythings just getting more and more expensive and it creates a rather unfair system that punishes people for having other stuff to do :/
Unless the afk timer starts at 15-20 minutes, its pretty unfair and just anti consumer.
I feel like the reason they did this so people who are busy cant get afk wax and to resort to buying candle packs.
Yeah i think it does though? So at least its not too bad
As pointed out by a few here now, please do take Live-related discussion to the Live channels such as #general-sky-discussion and #cozy-sky-discussion. Discussion here is for Beta 
Afaik it's already in live so afk discussion is already not beta 
Ohh ok 👍
Wasn't the afk timer a disregarded idea?
Can i dm you to explain it a bit? Itd be a little hard to keep up a conversation in genchat
Sure
I don't recall it being disregarded after testing. Things in Beta are always subject to change and implementation in Live (or not) based on feedback and the devs' goals for the game— we don't always get to test every iteration of a feature either if/when something does make it to Live
Question, our seasonal candles become normal candles when the season ends in beta or not? It just feels like I have so many of them, more than a hundred... I mean, I don't complain because less time needed to collect them but I feel like I missed something?
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
They do convert 
Just keep in mind currency in Beta is always subject to being reset if needed for testing- usually because of eventual bugs and not the higher conversation rates but it could happen
Of course, I think we just had one, but thanks for the reminder!
im confused about the controller updates, we cant roll anymore? plus the controller legend is a waste of a button for players who already know the layout, hopefully theyll add an option to revert the controls and stop binding inputs to one button pls
It wasn’t recieved well when it first came out months ago at least not in beta chat. No clue about feedbacks. We didn’t really had any info about the afk repellent system except bonfire and geyser until now. Honestly i hoped they never bring it back but guess, its time to beat the timer if we want to help some friends. 
That's actually the main way players build up their candle supplies in beta, off of seasonal candle conversion -- makes things a lot easier to manage rather than redoing a long candle run in live as well as beta
Thank you, spearmonkey! Good to know!
Hallo everyone😆I am the news ,I want to ask how to get the IOS Beta qualifications ,need I have the Application or Enter the invitation code directly in testflight? I want to ask for help.Thanku very much
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
beta is currently closed. you'll have to wait for an invite wave in order to get in
Thanku! And looks like when that it will have the invite?
And where I can see the invite ?
Sorry i need to ask so many questions

Go into beta faq and read it over, u should be able to get a role
It’ll grant u access to #beta-signup-info and allow u to get pinged when a wave releases
Keep in mind that invites are released on an as needed basis, so there’s no set time for them, hence why having the role is a good idea
Ok thankyou
Also in general its a good idea to read over the faq completely cus itll give u a way better explanation than i can give
Is music sheet 25 from the talented builder or the lively navigator? Seems like there’s no way to tell once you buy the sheet 
Oh they really changed barell rolls button 
For all i know, if is still like before:
after 2 minutes first afk animation will starts, and after 10 minutes "second afk animation" starts and you won't be able to collect lights.
Afk timer reset every time you change map areas, so is no a problem for candles run.
Well, thank goodness there's that
But may is kinda useless now since all "free waxs" from new system like geyser or bonfire at home give limited waxs. So yeah,its kinda sad still
It will just cause players to use RL solutions, like rubber banding your camera joystick to keep the camera spinning while you afk or use a stylus setup to make your device register screen taps. 
please take afk discussion to the live channels
the feature has been in for a while, but the patch resolved a long-standing bug
This is great and all but the guy who told me some legend (days of mischief) appeared in my home and after I talked to him I couldn’t find him in vault. Now nobody believes me.
me too!
It hasn’t started yet.
I remember it (afk thing) was supposed to function in days of bloom...
oh that's a glitch, apparently samantha (mischief spirit) sometimes appears when you go on the beach
wasn't expecting her to appear in live so soon 
they make an afk timer but then expect us to not grind for candles when traveling spirits are a thing and we can’t afk??? make it make sense
Afk is in live already, not beta 
Thanks for adding that cool guitar string movement sfx detail, that's rad
I realize this isn't priority, but is there any new word on the final release of tier 2 capes?
From the pins: #beta-discussion message
I'm still disappointed that the Light Whisperer's hair is not yet fix. Excess hair keeps on appearing forward when you moved.
Sky kids will mock TGC about this one again. Hoping to fix it as soon as possible before the season start. It's my favorite hair now.
FYI, I already sent report about that issue!
Today I learnt that max height can chibi run
I saw it..... For a split second...... My life is complete
No one said you can’t afk. Not sure where you are getting that from.
"socially disangaging behavior" is what was stated about being afk, iirc, so in short, it's frowned upon
Umm, Why beta still appear and be installed in my CH Play 
what are the halloween IAPS and what is their cost?
Check #news, the patch notes have the prices
Thank you! And these are the items that the spirit at home is seen wearing, no?
But it have a sever issue when I'm trying to log in 
Some of then are, you can take this to #questions-and-help since Mischeif has been announced to live
Can anyone answer me pls 
I wanna ask about the stone in the entrance of Flight, if it naturally has the glowing carving or do you need to have progress for it to appear 👀 its for a drawing
If you didn't install beta from the official (global) Google Play Store, we won't be able to assist.
No it's really appear in Gg play store offical!
I would suggest uninstalling and reinstalling and trying again. (Might want to reword your first post then, since it implies installing from a Chinese play store and not Google's Global version)
@carmine thorn dm me pls
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Sorry, I give public help. I do not DM users to assist.
(easier for others who might have same issue if the resolution is public.)
Please let us know if reinstalling from the play store fixes your issue!
Okay
Also keep in mind to disable any virtual private networks or proxies as those aren't supported methods to connect to Sky servers, only a direct connection is supported.
I saw the announcement of afk system being implemented in game somewhere. Is it still in beta? Or is it live? 🤔
beta is an older version compared to live
I thought they're not going to implement it since it received bad feedbacks on beta?
Does the afk timer applied to beta version as well? I couldn't read the updates jshdjsh
It's on live
We've had it in beta since we started testing it many, many months ago.
I think, due to the bug, we sorta forgot about it since it's effects weren't apparent
Oh, I thought they removed it on beta hdjshsh thanks! ❤️
I was wondering if this chat is on fire too. Thankfully it is not 
bruh why the unhand bug just transfered to live
Is it still possible to get beta ? :( 💖
check the faq for updates. theyre closed right now but may reopen later
Okay thank you so much 💕
anyone can show picture Witch Hat Accessory?, tysm
Witch Hat ? It is the same Hat like Witch Hair
Witch Hat Accessory Spell: 3 Candles in the Days of Mischief area—this hat can be worn with any hair style!
I read on update live
it's can be worn with hair style
one day i have hope that all 'hairstyles' will get separated into hats/hair...
one day
Maybe I should wrote feed back as "I hope we can buy the hat with money then we can wear it forever"
Yes and the Hat is same like Witch Hair
It is just can be wear at other hair without the Hair from Witch Hair
I did this before, but maybe you can did it too
So it will get more same opinion
because allowing us buy the hat means witch hat hair is unuseful anymore then they earn less money so forever no i guess
i mean the hair on the witch 'hairstyle' is a unique hair. they could just. separate it into a hair and a hat so we can mixmatch
thatmoneycompany
Halloween event is no longer in beta, lets please move the topic to beta related things. Since it's live, the best place to put your feedback is #live-feedback. 
Question for controller users, did ya’ll have the change where the flight mode change button and sneak/barrel roll/flight tricks button, became one? I just received it in the non-beta version, and I heavily dislike it.
i believe many people have commented about it in gen chat, but it got drowned out pretty fast
I’m excited for the season to startttt in live haha
I'm waiting for it to start so we can get our hands on 0.15.5
I guess I need more raccoon memes.....
Anyone remember the daily from yesterday?
I'm amazed how not much fuss has been made about all these new tunnel entrances appearing in connected areas in Live (even if they are not active yet)
I mean it's really obvious in forgotten ark
Does this mean they are too well hidden from the non windpaths end?
I think it’s more likely only a few travelled there/did not notice when flying there. After all it’s quite well-hidden. They might notice it when they enter Prophecy Cave (it became so huge).
what
its more about people are too busy with other controversial things 
Relive juggler, relive manta call, meditate high above valley citadel, and a friend interaction (wave to a friend maybe)
I mean the cloud tunnel entrances/exits to/from the windpaths in forgotten ark, sanctuary, starlight, caverns,hermit being in the Live version but everyone only noticing the main entrance by forest social area
Ktjn at home took all the spotlights
Hi everyone, nice to meet you. I am Japanese.
I became a beta version tester today, but I can't install it.
How can I install it?Please tell me.
I can't speak English very well.Please chat individually.
How did you become a beta tester? Normally, you can only become a tester with an invite from this discord server, and invites did not go out today.
Edit: Are you on android?
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
found out you can find Sky beta on android by just searching Sky in play store, people can become a tester if there's a free space i guess
That’s true, but it’s rather rare. I guess it depends if they are ios or android, let’s see what they answer 
Well, it's the above Android URL in #beta-faq . I heard from a friend that I could be a tester from there.
Ahh I see, you got an open spot then because somebody else left the program. However, I don’t have android, so I’m unsure how to download beta there, sorry
I’m sure someone else can help
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Bypassing tester application would considered as illegal way to join beta, there was player who got banned in last ban wave from what I heard 
#beta-faq is where you get information about being a beta tester, but that's not where you actually get the invite URL from.
#beta-signup-info is where you actually get the URLs to join and download the beta version, but it is not always accepting new beta testers. On certain days of the year, the developers will post URLs there which will allow you to join and download the beta version, but they don't tell us when they'll post it in advance.
To get a notification from Discord when they post those links, you need to go to #beta-faq and tap the
react button -- that will give you a Discord role that will send a notification when they've posted those invite links.
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Even if they downloaded it from Play Store, but without a proper tester qualification, it would still happens
As far as I know if you get an open spot on android because someone left the program that’s not an illegal way to get in
skybot out in full force
Yeah it used to be, but we can't say it's how beta program supposed to be worked 
got it! thank you!
probably devs determined it's illegal after all
Thank you!
I guess to make sure would be to ask @hardy carbon about it
My Japanese friend has the same issue, she has been unable to download Beta even though shes been a beta tester for 6 months already
I can download the beta on my phone, but she's unable. Aka. it says I can download on my phone, on hers it says she's not a beta tester. We have access to the same email
I had already spoken with ThatHelpBot a while back but they told us to speak to Goggle or just wait for the next invite wave.
Which at that time, was the very last waves.
I will keep bringing up this issue until Tgc manage a way to fix it 
Oh really?It's very painful.Thank you for the useful information, it may not reflect that you have become a tester yet, so I will wait a little longer.
Google is "slightly" broken when it comes to being able to download the app, it is known that it gives out more tester spaces than people who can download the app. I've had long discussions with one of the Google customer support members, but without any real success. I do not know whether Google is aware of the issue, but they won't admit to the public it exists. Sadly, there is no way to send bug reports to Google, thus nothing we (and TGC) can do about it.
Long story short, I'm afraid you'll most likely have to wait for the next invite wave to get to download the app.
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Okay, so basically. Am I supposed to make the account leave the tester position? Because I am pretty sure, even if a invite wave opens, the account will already say that it is already a tester.
You don't have to leave the tester position, at least I didn't have to when I became a tester. For me, I could download the game immediately when new spots came out.
Spoiler-tagged because not sure and don't want to spread misinformation: ||If I remember well, it was something like 'the first 95% of testers who try to download are successful, the rest isn't'.||
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
In the next invite wave: If the link for the Android testing (https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.tgc.sky.android.test.gold) says you're a tester already now, you don't need to use it anymore. You only have to download in the Play Store. But might be that you still have to be quick.
Hmm, when's days of mischief coming to live again? It's been like a month and I still forget LMAO
That concluded in beta, so ask in live topics next time. It's in #news patch notes amongst many interesting information! 
Ah thank you so much! I haven't been active in beta for a while so this means a lot!!
