#beta-discussion
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Im using android~
I will try the steps you tell me thxxšš
Maybe now is not available for new beta tester haha
Whatās the name of the new season
Season of Flight
It is sad seeing the only blue realm We have, ||sorry Vault, but Forest pulled the blue color better, and would probably be better if They changed Vault to purple maybe-|| turn to yellow. 
it looks artificially lit because it sort of is, the sun cannot properly reach the points where it's brighter, there are no openings in the clouds for the light to reach in
Yes itās not,that message seems to be a way to prevent new testers to join,can try it later
The lighting now looks artificial to me, like a football field at night (only less bright).
Please help hint keep saying same thing

Okay~ I go change back my own accš¤Æš¤Æ
It is a bugged quest, I suggest ignoring it until the next update
The bugged lighting in forest serves better as a transition between prairie and forest instead of suddenly changing after you jump down from the social space.
It looks okay in the first, still dry, area
exactly, when it starts raining and the light is still there, it's weird, cause there's no way for light to reach into the areas where there's no openings in the cloud
Yes. Like irl
iirc press and hold on the message you want to translate, an icon should pop up, you press that
Where should i ask or talk abt this?
The bug which your skykid holds up a candle when you're scrolling emote menu is back, but it isnt written in live patch notes at all
Are we back to zero 
Do i message thathelpbot to report ||hackers|| account?
That's rather live and it's because you press the
emote while scrolling. With my friends we often make jokes in live about it saying that this emote became the "wait I'm scrolling" emote 
!reportfaq helps only - or contact support in-game if they are friends of you but they blocked you
Wakie, wakie Skybot 
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
Im pretty sure i din press that emote while scrolling , and the bug is back in live. Try checking too 
I donāt mean in game account, i mean like other social media thatās posting ||hack|| stuff
@plush osprey ah yes, ThatHelpBot 
@tacit stone I scroll on the side of the screen and don't see that emote, interesting!
Question. is the Halloween area closed? i can't find the waay again there.. and i wanted to show a friend ingame.
It was changed. Now not the tv, but the second restroom is the gateway
guys is the season of flight started in the beta
#beta-announcements says yes :)
Thanks
i've heard that in beta, minimize app or any trick that involves exiting the app doesn't work anymore, is this true? 
You mean krill tricks? Since the 0.14.5 live patches it's better to learn how to hide and outrun krills. Tricks are not always reliable and not how the game is meant to be played.
What is the quote for season of flight area? I kinda forgot ;;
There is one krill trick that still works until now and it's available for both Android and IOS
Why did I enter the beta server and it servererror
Closing the app fully - if done in time - still can work but that depends on good timing. Which one do you mean?
My beta is fine
U having internet issues maybe?
Exactly what you just said 
Thank
Still many players fail with the app close so I won't say it's fully reliable

but my internet is normal@sleek pelican
But at the same time, its now impossible to lit that one big plant.
Wasteland isint Prairie but Krills had become aimbots and dodging in now impossible. You cant stun them, you either be lucky or your screwed.
The reason why people use krill glitches because the plant either keeps growing or the krills always come every 10-15 seconds.
What if you got targeted from afar and didnt know until you randomly lost wing light out of nowhere?
If theres a way to temporary stun them it would be better. Krills are now bad game design
Normal internet doesn't seem to be measured for package dropouts or ping speed 
Sky is a connection sensitive game
Thank you
Timing is the most crucial element of the trick. It will work if:
- A krill is locking on at your avatar
- If your skykid is within an area that the krill patrols without any cover
- You close the app the instant you lose winged lights
I disagree. Many of my friends only dodge krills without tricks. I saw several instances where 4 users went to the graveyard plant and one dodged the krill and the others burnt the plant in seconds.
Moreover I won't say bad game design whereas this is how that area and that game is meant to be played and Sky staff itself asked for dodging videos in the past day (or so) to adjust it making dodging more possible 
That's the reason why we have those Krill repellant spells. To be able to prevent losing WLs while burning that one plant in graveyard
Moreover in a full candle run close to grey candle that tree gives nearly nothing. (Thanks to the advantage of daily light system)
Many users want more challenges. And if you want to embark on that challenge, with time and practice you can master it with friends! 
How many kids could a skykid kid if a skykid could kid kids?
How much wax does that one battlefield plant give you Vs a krill repellent spell for 1AC?
Doesn't seem worth the cost after the chevron changes for me
That plant gives about ~40 wax points.on 19th candle you need 1000 wax to reach the 20th candle
Ill say the spell is more useful in eden than wasteland 
Honestly, I geniunely don't understand why people are so attached to that one tree in Wasteland even after the Daily Light update. You don't have to get that tree at all in order to get a good amount of candles, even during a āfullā candle run you can just skip it thanks to its benefits
some people are just too greedy with wax (im greedy I will do anything for that even if it kills me /hj)
For me, its more concerning with the newcomers and why the plant is even there in the first place. I rarely to never go to wasteland.
Im alright with the krill patches except the aimbot
Also I don't know if it's a flaw, but the tutorial in the first krill area doesn't show that you can hide from the krill, it only shows you that the krill is a hostile creature to you
In the tutorial (if it is a tutorial) the spirit memories hint the hiding spots and the timing you can avoid it
Eversince the light update I have never been to wasteland. Ever. Not even for the daily quests.
P. S. I'm not scared I'm just lazy
this is a basic explanation, the interaction between the manta (a light creature) and the krill (a dark creature) serves as an invisible tutorial to teach the player that they're vulnerable to these creatures, because a skykid is a light creature
they may have used the spirit memories to lead the player into safety, that makes sense
Someone got the link for the daily quests? š
Beta?
Here's beta daily quest by stiles
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Ugh I hate krills now
lil note, i found my skykid glitching lightly while doing slowest walking speed at prairie
will testing at other areas tho
I really wish they don't patched the tricks we use to avoid krills. It's harder to burn those big plants around the graveyard. How are we supposed to burn that without losing our winged light?
Also if a moth come to graveyard and accidentally minimize their apps or reading tutorials from sky or looking at shops, they'll likely be shocked and afraid
that was a bug??
and here i thought my fat finger always swipped on the raise candle emote 
hiding and bringing a couple friends, mostly. i've never used krill tricks before and burning the tree isn't that hard if you have a partner and know the krill patterns
it will be a challenge
bring friends
there's always risk doing cr in wasteland
just skip it if you don't wanna
I hope the krill repellent spell stays
i would probably resort to tents or server merge in the new update. server merge tho.. assuming there would be more brave peeps to continue burning the big plant in the next update
Personally I wouldnāt mind the patch if krills werenāt bugged 
Kinda painful to see them krill me through walls or from under the map 
I can burn the big tree but there's times where the tree decides to burn really slow, if you jump out after a certain time there's a chance the krills can miss you but when it burns slowly it's a problem that leads you to getting krilled
The tents didn't work for me idk why. I also tried the cupboard and still didn't work š
imagine a moth just stopped an pulled out a map or something and it gets seen by a krill
yes it would be
but that'll be a lesson learned
My friend asked why I skipped the tree yesterday when farming and I simply said "I'm not losing my wl when I'm at exactly 150"
Yeah the tree burns really slow sometimes. Also they didn't fix the door in the forest...
literally me in my moth days whenever i gain a new wedge 
honestly i would feel that the krill repellent spell is only fair if it is affects the people we are holding hands with (friends) if not the cost is abit too high...
YEAH, my solution to certain areas in wasteland being too hard to run is to simply not run it. depending on how much you skip you'll only lose 0-3 candles assuming you have no chevrons so that's not that much, especially if you do the trials or if there's a wax collection event at homespace
On live I have 171 wl but I still hate burning the tree, regaining the light is annoying especially when you lose 5-6 on such a big wing count
there are other sources of wax, there's certainly nothing wrong with skipping a spot that's extremely tedious
We loses too many winged lights if the krill gets us now. The winged lights used to lose 3-4 at max
I lost 7 but managed to regain them all
cough, the plants on wasteland battlefield
the game never forces you to go to wasteland to cr
I'm lazee to get them back 
It took me a full week to get my wl back on live after going to Eden 
I like the fact that tgc offers alternative source such as geyser for peeps who can't manage for wasteland
the
we lose is dependent to how many you have,
if you have like 150+ then there's gonna be blood
What? Golden wasteland is meant to be a hostile environment, a barren death trap all of us were scared of gw at one point or another and some of us are still scared to enter it. Itās a part of the game and the more you enter into golden wasteland the easier and less scary it becomes. Game mechanics are trial and error so who cares if you lose a couple of WL in the process? Itās not as if they are gone forever, thereās too much attachment to winged lights when really and truly they are dispensable..
Except if you have to full cr each realm, even if it means running a krill filled area. That's where the krill repellant spells come in handy
Well I just fly as high as I can on certain places in wasteland 
Yesterday it felt amazing when I dodged a krill in the air I felt powerful 
again YEAH, if you're having trouble dodging krill then just don't go,,, you can do the geyser or trials if you really need those extra 3ish candles
it's the same reason why most people don't run eden weekly, they don't want to do it and nobody's forcing them to
But i do agree the krills are very very buggy at times... they looked at me despite i was out of their range quite often...
I felt like an idiot when I flew directly into a krill after hiding from another 
it's the same reason why most people don't run eden weekly, they don't want to do it and nobody's forcing them to > this only reminds me of the ||eden wl shedding rate is so much higher now and it is kinda annoying|| Please do not make me run eden twice a week now.. orz
Staying away from the game for a while makes you realize its flaws, this also applies for playing it for longer amounts of time. Eden is definitely a bad place to find yourself in, I save my AC for the wing buffs from TSs instead of buying resizes. I don't like going through Eden, nor through all of the realms to recollect all of my winged light.
Thank you sorry I messaged in the wrong channel by bad
i had a friend who uses all her weekly ac to open friendship wing buff every week... not resizing issues honestly dun ask me how she got so much friends
Progressing friendships would be much better if it rewarded both sides with more heart fragments when you're lighting each other.
Well, I know Wasteland is supposed to be a scary place but if we accidentally minimize the application and lose our winged light it just feels kinda unfair and also feels bad to moths. But if you guys agree with the changes about the krills, then I just need to see what's going to happen after the new patch release
A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!
A lot of people are going to complain about the new changes but in a way, the glitches weren't supposed to stay in the long run they would be patched and there's nothing we can do about it in the end, Ktjn said this multiple times in the past to us
also i really like how krill dodging tricks are being removed since the entire point is that it's a dangerous area that you're going to have to hide in. maybe it's because i never learned how to do any of the tricks but i think it's really annoying to see people upset over not being able to use their tricks anymore when 1) this wouldn't BE a problem if you knew how to hide in the first place and 2) tgc only patches bugs when they think they're harmful to the game like that one bug that let you get into the nintendo area for free or the several crashing issues on android. krill tricks have been getting patched since the beginning so you should expect them to get patched and you should never rely on them to the point where you think wasteland is completely unrunnable without them
i don't fear the krill. i go always alone so i can save myself. for Moffs and players who aren't used to krills. it's terrible.
maybe they should give a warning in GW. in the first krill area so that moffs know -> black thingy. need to avoid.
Everyone knows how curios moffs are. so they get hugged really fast.
Are there season candles here in beta now, to pick up?
the first krill area does have a warning tho, it's the manta getting krilled
I never run GW with krill tricks. It's fun to play the game the way it's supposed to be
that's what the manta getting krilled is for though, right? it spots the manta that's been with you since forest, it krills it and it dies. maybe they should make that a cutscene to make it more obvious
I don't fear the krill as well since I know how to avoid them easily. And yeah I agree with ur suggestions and moths are curious cinnamonbuns
i forgot the manta xD i'm always gone before it get hugged.
what have changed with the krills in beta? sorry im not a beta player. does quiting the game still work?
Exploits no longer work
also honestly, the whole atmosphere of the area is enough to show that krills are a threat, not to mention the roar they make
The roar kills make still scare me, I went to office and actually screamed when I heard the krills roaring strike
Does the force close app still work then?
great! they've finally give more power to my beloved dark dragon
that is an exploit too, so no, it does not work
I've gotten braver with gw since my moth days but ngl I still mute the game there and play my own music 
YEAH, i used to have actual nightmares about krill when i started so i think it's kind of defeating the point of wasteland and eden to just be able to completely nullify them whenever
I also muted my phone while running gw.. can't do it... hands trembles even now for eden..
You go GW without ingame sound? You're brave! XDD GW is the only area where i turn on Sound xD to run when i nee to.
I remember in my moth days I'm staying close by my veteran friends in wasteland. They protect me and even lose their winged lights. Well, back to moth we go I guess 
It's not an exploit. It just involves closing the app and reopening it, just as simple as that. It would be a different story if it involves ingame mechanics though
yeah it makes it a little more difficult to figure out where krill are, but I'm not good with sudden loud noises so it's worth it for me
I've been playing the game for nearly a year and I still hide behind my other friends 
Well, they said it's an exploit but for me it just unfair since when we play, accident happens 
Like when there's notif or something
adding to this i think the spell is really great because you have to spend like a second casting it so it's less "WHOOPS KRILL SPOTTED ME" and more "okay there's gonna be a lot of krill coming up soon, i need to prepare"
you are closing the game to avoid getting struck by the krill instead of hiding or dodging, so it is an exploit.
Instead I use that method the instant I get krilled and lose WLs in Eden
Do you guys think the horns are too costy? I would buy if they were $5. but $10? 
Oh wait, I just know there's a spell to avoid krills??
Which spell is that?
I think that's how much the antlers were too, but do feel free to leave feedback 
new spell just introduced krill repellent..
they were too costy as well
When an accident happens in the game, for example you get krilled and lose some winged light, you pick yourself up and carry on, learn from your mistakes and make sure it doesnāt occur a second time around. Gw is meant to be difficult, stay in the other realms if you donāt want the challenge, itās that simpleā¦
chrtistmas antlers was 15 ... this new version is cheaper by 5 usd but feel free to comment in beta feedback
I think this krill spell is only useful if you activate it once the krill notices u, or u just wont make it in time
Ahh I just know that since I don't check on boats that often
thanks 
I literally had to go try and dodge that one Krill in crab fields for crab call in Beta. Telling me that is like making me forget the thrill I can get from doing such a challenge, besides I'm sure that there are some players who enjoy GW
hh yeah and this is coming from a self-proclaimed whale. i think we should go the route of mischief 2020 and have all the new iap mischief items in a pack to make them cheaper if you're getting them all at once
actually the old ones too, getting everything this mischief is going to cost me 45$ since i missed the last 2 and that's too much even for me 
Area before Graveyard has 1 krill that basically krills a manta, idk for some players but that certainly shook me as a moth and heightened my senses
in a way, that lil scenario tells you that this place definitely has dangers
i dont think a pack is a good option because i wouldnāt buy other stuff
Thatās exactly my point, I LOVE the thrill I get from gw itās my favourite realm. But seeing people actively complain about tricks that they can no longer do to keep out of the krills reach baffles me. GW is challenging for a reason and feeds all the thrill seekers. If you donāt like the krills or find them scary there are other realms to indulge in
you can still buy the items individually with the actual catch-up pack so i assume mine would work the same way
And actually there are packs for older stuff and if u buy pack and not each item from spirits it is cheaper
Now playing: ||citanLu||
My friend warped to me and got us both krilled 
man i wonder what we're gonna do with days iaps a year from now,,, i mean like 45$ is a lot to spend on one event (i'm definitely skipping items out of necessity for once
) so imagine mischief 2022 if we get more iaps and you missed the last 3 
I always skipped IAPs except Adventure passes since IAPs are too expensive for me š¤
The only IAPs I can afford is that š and š° head 
I don't even buy my iaps my boyfriend does it for me 
same
ideally i'd like them to be worth hearts and candles so the total for a days event never exceeds 50$ but i also don't wanna be unfair to the players who bought them with real money
You're lucky. My boyfie would ask me buy the 3 packs and split the fee with me 
Iām listening to this the next time I go through GW
haha thank you 
I think those iap just must be always available somewhere at the shop, if they return each year
I don't have an interest for all the items, the only things I really want is the stuff from last year and the withered horns from this year so he isn't spending a heap load of money 
What is this song? 
That's literally a song where the title is a ||censored word|| if spelled correctly. The letters are scrambled btw
Sometimes making items in a bundle is not the best idea personally, cuz i dont always want to have every item in the bundle just some specific ones. So what if there was something like an option to pick whatever multiple items you want to be a bundle and you get a discount if youāve picked 3 or 4 items. Something like āpick 3 get ?% discountā
Iāll just copy paste this to feedback
Ohh I get it now 
For me a cape/pants could cost higher because they are substantially bigger and require more effort to model etc. Horns are small, and even tho they seem kinda complex but still too much for $10. Obviously if they made them $5 more people would buy it.
Maybe less it by choosing 2 items and make the discount higher as we choose other IAP since one IAP cost a lot 
I don't like the black withered-twigs-with-yellow-leaves horn for this Halloween š¤Ŗ
but I'm sure someone may like it.
I like the Christmas horn better, much better.
Yeah but if there were no ādays of this or thatā it would be more boring
i prefer this Halloween one more due to pricing and it isn't as huge but the Christmas one has nicer ears.. XD
Agreed, but I think they just need to lower the price, that's all
Ahhh isn't the Witch hair, Halloween table, Maple cape free?
Frankly I'm surprised the Table is free. Its much better than the horn (Just my opinionš)
I agree and disagree, Halloween finally has free igc. But 82$? Seriously, Why cant the old items have a discount. The iaps were 2 years ago
At the end of the day, it's your choice whether you will purchase them or not
same, but when comparing Feast Antlers and Withered Horns, one is bigger and has ears which is also priced higher
not fair for the players who brought them early... =/
This is why im saying that if those items return each year maybe they have to be permanently available at the shop
Ehhhhhhh? Those iaps you call a rip off are actually fuelling this game and keeping it running! Just because you cant afford it doesnāt mean itās a rip off. It keeps the seasons content playable for EVERYONE and keeps the game ad free. Throw some respect at the team and understand what iaps really do for the game
u dun see halloween or xmas clothes at the department stores all the time no? >_> extra cost for it to open it on all platforms as well
I know games that make old items discounted for the newer player base, Imagine 2023 where theres 100-120$ of iap because the old ones cost more than the new ones.
Old players got it max price because they were fresh and new, when years go. It would be less "new and fresh" and should be discounted in favor for newer ones
but this is a game, people wear those items on everyday basis here so u cant really compare it
Im not very knowledgeable about how this purchase and discount matter works (Iāll try to work my smol brain here) but i think discount can be applied for how much youāre spending. Because for example you getting some hair pin + necklece wouldnāt be the same with you getting a pant + cape. Maybe a certain amount of discount can be applied only when you reach a certain money limit
you are not making sense. you can wear xmas clothes or halloween clothes all the time... >_> no one is stopping u
YEAH, tgc's a small company and it takes a lot of money to pay the employees, run the servers and pay for collabs,,, i'm tired of people saying they're greedy because the alternative is getting very slow updates and lower-quality items and events because the devs don't have enough money to work at their full potential
I believe I am making sense as what im trying to say is if iap items were available at some sort of permanent shop people would be able to buy them if they want and not complain that the event drains $80 in total
Tgc made 500k from days of nature alone. They are a small team but not a small company, They made money from merch, aps, iaps, and the chinese server.
Discount. Yes discount! I would be happy If there's a discount for "Loyal players",
for example you played through 3 seasons and you get a loyal badge and a timed discount for the next season. š
but u donāt know how much they earn from all the stuff
So whether you all like it or not, each IAP we pay for ingame is like supporting TGC for their hard work in creating Sky 
but like others said, you dun go spend usd 80 just like that... u get what u want then stop... isn't it?
yeah, which is going into development efforts and charity. i'm also upset about mischief 21 being so expensive but i'm tired of people saying they're greedy and lazy for needing money to stay afloat, which is why i'm trying to think of methods to make mischief cheaper so the players don't have to pay as much while also supporting tgc
also i thought the chinese server wasn't owned by tgc?
wdym by stop?
I don't actually expect every person to buy every single IAP cosmetic
Wait what? 
u dun go to a department store and wipe out all the goods right? that is what i meant by stop buying
OMG TGC PLS CONSIDER THIS 
d. do you not know that a lot of tgc's money comes iaps?? the money doesn't come from nowhere which is why a lot of the more recent events have been more expensive (ignoring the charity events:) they might still be trying to pay off the costs of using the little prince and flight seems ambitious enough to need a minor price lift for days events
80$ total is a lotta money but
you're really gonna everything?, it's really expensive if you total it all
No one says that players have to buy all the stuff. And nor do I do that.
Yeah they owned by ||NetEase||
then why are you harping on the usd 80 dollars?
because Iām trying to find a solution for people who strive to buy a lot of stuff
Most of the IAP items are just returning items tho 
That's not what I meant. I just got triggered by the addition to your message where it says that you thought that the chinese server wasn't under TGC's ownership
well there are free items: cape, hair, table
oh year fair, my bad
if they are striving to buy alot of stuff, doesnt it mean they have the capability to do so?
they actually only added 3 new IAPs together with 3 IGC items
the other IAPs are from before
no, i strive to get every mischief item this year but i don't get paid enough to buy all of them
Hello guys I want a link for beta?
tgc are adding back the bat or the witch cosmetics due to players wanting them back.. if you want it to cost less, do you prefer those items not to be put in this year again?
I understand they need money to make new content for us but if the new content is just more IAPs with limit free content then it becomes of cycle of buying IAPs for more IAPs. Ok thatās all Iām gonna say Iām scared 
Read #beta-faq, react to a respective roles to be notified when there's an invite wave
To be honest thatās why weāre testers to give them feedback on these situations
So there are no links now?
New iaps never limited free content, no need to be scared.
Sadly, no. Try your luck and hopefully you'll get in next time 
I mean is, days of nature is an example of how much money they are getting. They would get more from events like halloween.
Never stating that they are lazy, but they need to be sensitive to newer players. 82$ of iaps is nuts
why are they super grossed out by the game btw
its not like the Seasonal Areas are Ap-locked, IAPs for extra wingbuffs, and all that cheesey marketing stuff from other games
the IAPs are only cosmetics
I agree that the inflating prices on the candles and hearts are getting very annoying.... however please note AP / IAP is the only source that tgc is getting money to pay their hardworking stafff...
ok thanks for the answerš
Itās events for me. Too many of them. A free trial spell of an IAP and some shells that explode dont distract me from the fact that events are IAP focused (sorry I didnāt mean to replu to this message but imma go with it
)
Sky is like real life. I don't want the best Gucci or whatever brand stuff for free. The best clothes always have been expensive. And outlook have never been a burden for me.
500k is really not that much money in the grand scheme of things, you have to think about the big picture; they need to pay for salaries, advertising, server costs, merchandise production etc etc
i think it might be good if we had a discount on old items since that's a LOT of items and a LOT of money. it might be unfair to the players who bought them earlier but the benefit is that they got to have the item years before the rest of us. think of it like buying an ap and then having a spirit from that season coming back next year: players with the ap (or mischief item in this case) don't have to worry about the returning item but players without get to get the item for a little less in return for not being able to get it right away
Thatās why maybe a fair amount if discount would make donāt you think?
both for that those items returning for the second time and because there are many items that get a bit too expensive all together
how API like umbrella/switch cape/office cap and instruments are just cosmetics?
It's not understanding economy for many people. A new book or any item always costs more than the old one. No one ever complains to the writer why
- we HAVE a free umbrella and it doesn't lock you out of going to forest, 2) there's nothing of value in the nintendo area and office except for like half a candle,,, during events where you have to go to the office to get new items, tgc always opens it for free
I doubt they'll make those, it just wouldn't seem fair to player's who purchased them before at a higher price rate.
Yeah it's not about fairness but I don't mind paying if they just gave us discounts for old items
And ngl items will become outdated when compared to newer graphic designs, and since we canāt change prices Iām here thinking āis bat cape really worth $20 stillā no offense
i prefer that discount for loyality players but not for old items... coz it just isn't that fair
It should be discount for outdated items, not for newer items
so uh,.. are the krills in the office practicing for like some sort of synchronised show because wow 
Tbh, I do think there are too many IAP in this event 
Maybe a kind of ārollā would be good? One year, the pumpkin pack comes back, the other itās the witchāsā¦
Tgc needs to make badge loyalty discount for older players
I just wanted to add that the 500k from days of nature was NET proceeded, not what they received in total
That's a very narrow point of view and twisting their words. Please see the whole context
they're extra content
we have IGC umbrella,
Nintendo pack is a value option given that it has a hair, instrument and 2 capes for an exclusive area thats basically just a playground,
instruments such as the swing, seesaw are luxury versions of table, and the lantern is certainly exceptional but you can certainly go CR without it (it doesn't help burning plants)
the only use ive ever found for lantern is the new halloween area lol
Loyality discount would rip the main philosophy of the game: equality (regardless it's not perfect equality)
Okay youre justdownsizing the effects of API on playing experience. And my point is just theyre not "only cosmetic"
summer Umbrella and the Lightseeker ts umbrella is basically the same but like different skins
Playing experience is different than playability. Of course you feel better with the coolest cosmetics. They can feel better if they earn back that immense amount of money they put in early developing.
the new call
itās so cute
If you think candle runs are repetitive, it's fine. For many not. But if you feel it overwhelming take a few steps back from Sky or from wanting to acquire everything 
they're literally cosmetics that do anywhere between nothing and one very specific function that can be accomplished for free (holding a candle vs using the lantern, holding a friend's hand vs holding one of the umbrellas, using the vault table or unlocking chat vs using a 2-person chat object, etc) you probably won't use anyway. i do wanna know the effects on your playing experience not having them has so i can understand you better though
I recently came to a sad realisation
For a company to survive they need to constantly make profit.
Since Sky is a f2p game it means they either need a constant flow of new players (addition of the switch version) or they need to inflate the prices.
As we can see tgc never inflated the cost of the AP for the past 2 years, but they did start adding more and more IAPs
The sad realisation is that we either will get more and more IAPs that are getting expensive or they will have to try to cut the expenses - put less effort into the game which is not an option for this game
Ur right so im thinking of solutions to this.. what about giving those players a little candle pack gift for their previous purchase, to not be unfair to them. Or the same discount gifted to them for the new mischief items so something like āyou have already purchased these items before so weāre gifting this discount to you for the new mischief items!ā 
Returnable items should be priced with the consideration itās going to be available for years to come. Not priced on its current worth because it can never be changed. I have no issues with lots of IAP costumes on Halloween because itās fun itās like I get to choose my Halloween costume, itās not meant to buy everything. Itās the old stuff that is overpriced bc no offense itās not worth that much anymore , visually
It sounds good! But who knows if items or Sky will be available next year at all? Who could be the prophet to tell which items will be popular that users would want it next year?
To be honest, if the returning items are going to be discounted I also can wait until the packs get discounted to very low then I buy. Please note during the meantime the cash hold for tgc will just get lower and lower...
Rephrased: Then you can improve your candle run route
you can get 15 candles in less than an hour if done well. I have more candles than ever. Ps.: In 1 hour without tricks, without vault, without daily cakes
to be honest, sky is the only game I see by now.. people can afk and still get their game items (candles).. u dun see it in other games
Thereās no guarantee for every item to return every year
Running full realms doesn't really worth. I'm gonna make a tutorial how to get candles fast in the daily light system once
Try to be more mindful of your wording, saying that youāre not doing something right comes off as an attack
Please I understand you giving your opinion but saying āyouāre not doing it rightā is a little rudeā¦
Itās true that with the grey candle and new forging system, itās quicker to get candles but itās longer to max out each day⦠I personally have less candles than before and lost my will to cr, it will be different for everyone 
Thank you! English is not my native language, it can sound (and my intention was) supportive in mine. I rephrased š„° @sinful cairn 
Overall this is a game we are meant to play as an entertainment.
The second a game starts to be stressful is the second the game has doomed itself
Really at the end of the day no one is forced to play or spend money on the game, the moment I feel dread instead of joy when starting up a game I just stop playing because itās not worth making yourself upset just because you feel obligated to keep playing (sunken cost fallacy)
Iām sure the devs would rather people to stop playing instead of growing to hate the game and their experiences
i'm gonna retreat to live chat to cool off, good luck on finding a solution to this 
Or thereās me who loves the game and has no plan to stop playing so if I see an issue, I will say something, give feedback, and hope itās addressed
Quick question regarding
š¹ Hint cam for players who can access the season to show seasonal location
Has anyone encountered this? Is it like Assembly's?
Well yes, mainly for cosmetics collectors this all where it's going is a drawback 
I usually CR with friends so i can leave the game running while talking with them. Its not really mentality exhausted so i can do it every day.
Pls do! Looking fwd to see this
Yes the camera switch keep on making me fall every time I try to leave the social space in forest š
I forgot if i tried what i did in Assembly, where i try to fly fron the far sides instead of closer to that arch and i get to avoid that cutscene
I can imagine I scene where you're just about to take off and the moment you fly you face gets forced to look at a direction while fly aimlessly
I never encountered this, I think it's because I already entered the area lots of times. Strange. I think it should be disabled after entering the area a couple of times
Hey, so my phone was lost/stolen is there any way I can get the beta version of sky on my second one instead
Yes just sign into the same Apple or google account on the new device
Just log back in with the Google/Apple ID you signed up with
Will this work if my old phone was android and this one is apple
RIP
Dang. Thanks anyways
See you next wave 
Yup itās weird, I will signal it if I encounter it today as well :oV
I don't have a lot of issues with server errors and load anymore
was the sudden influx of univited guests been taken care of or did they just stopped since they've seen it all?
I'm not actually expecting answers, just my thoughts
Only found one winged light so far...
So...i had 680 candles...then for some reason...i could get candles a few days ago so I decided to get up to 1000. I log back on the next day and now have only 190 candles. Of course I can hardly buy anything in new season... This is ridiculous. š
#beta-known-issues message
this explains why
sorta upset, how are you?
Just riding the Great Manta to the island, hbu?
Just playing a violin. And you? š»
Just testing the season of limenarcy, hbu?
Just LOCALIZE ME
feeding skybot some seasonals, typical sunday
Testing Season of Fellowship 
im so sorry that happened:( i hope the person who stole your phone got their karma:(((
woah I just noticed that the flight spirit capes got lighten up
I also noticed that the new stance spirit has a hair on top thingy
A few days ago I noticed that the instruments can be played properly again, all the notes register even when I click 3 or more notes 
they changed forest lighting to look like the seasonal area? bro what
It's a bug
thank god
now forest on light mode will never exist in live version
They'll fix it soon 
Wheres the portal to the halloween area
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
hii, i was just wondering where i can get these capes? it says premium candle shop but iām lost lmao - oh never mind i cant send pics- well the halloween capes
Second bathroom in office
They are available in Halloween area after you talk to the specific npc
Premium candle shop refers to the iap shop š

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When can the items of the new season be added, and are there two ancestors missing?
I donāt think we know when they can be added and the promotional image only showed 4 spirits so I doubt there will be others
There's only 4 ancestors for this season, like the season of prophecy and season of dreams. Items will arrive in beta when they are completed and placed onto the new spirits' models and fitted/tailored for sky kids.
there's just something specially cute about saying "fitted/tailored for skykids"
Is there really a Great Manta to ride yet or is the mission not ready yet?
I think it was meant for the quest where you help the spirit assemble a boat connected to the great manta to ride, but is bugged rn. I could be wrong. The screen prompt hasnt left my screen for days.
Hi, please keep Forest's live atmosphere
That's all I wanted to say
Goodbyeeeeeee
Put it in #beta-feedback! It's important to let the devs know.
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yeah I've been redoing the mission thinking it was my internet!
I wish that great manta would be something... "original"
because, we already have the big mantas from prairie and the giant whale manta in sanctuary, so manta again... I dunno. of course, it's a base creature from the game, so it's expected to see lots of them 
maybe it could be a big bird instead (note that I don't know if it would be even fitting for the story), like the one from rythmin's cutscene. maybe with chairs of some kind on it's back so we can ride it, dunno
Oooo! Maybe use a little bird to get you back! Like the little Prince did. There was a bird in the season art
I put in #beta-feedback that they should bring back season of rhythm's creature for new players to experience. Maybe make a similar suggestion?
I dunno, I don't even know how that manta looks like, but... 
Oh I want to see that bird again, I was lowkey hoping it would return for the season
Just look up the creatures wiki for sky cotl and scroll down a bit. It's a really good looking model and definitely should be put to good use again. They'd probably have to rig the creature though with in-game manta mechanics, so thats why they haven't reintroduced it.
we could get something similar, because that bird is very specific for rythmin 
yeah, I thought that manta mechanics are just simpler to use, so a bird would actually need a saddle of some sorts
It's specific to rhythm, but unfortunately we're never gonna actually SEE rhythm as a season again (as far as we know). It'd be a good addition, without all the rhythm accessories and saddle. And considering it a giant bird and this is basically like. a BIRD season. it seems right to add it
Maybe not something we can interact with, like the king manta/whale hybrid at Sanctuary, it would be seen flying in the distance
So uh- Sky has become a bit grind heavy lately. Is there anyway to address this? I'm getting tired of having to log in like basically everyday with few breaks in between to get everything for a season
They've already made an attempt to patch this recently. It's actually LESS grind heavy as it used to be. The chevrons by candles are boosts and are a newer feature so you can get more candles with less work.
I'm talking about seasonal quests
if by lately you mean like 14 months earlier, yes, it is very grindy now
the best we can do is complain in #live-feedback and/or #beta-feedback
It's always good to get a rest and a break if you feel it's grinding
or find friends with whom making quests is fun!
In fact TGC put big effort to make the quests more variety and making candle run easier and more fun.
That's just daily tasks. They're pretty easy to do and i dont think they should be changed imo. Getting seasonal candles takes about 5-10 minutes if you do just that and nothing else.
i don't think that was their point at all, the spirits cost a lot more, leaving you with little to no break time
I mean sometimes I don't have the time to go on, but there isn't much wiggle room to miss getting seasonal candles
the quests are more fun because of variety now, tho they are longer specially because of the spirits 
Please note those channels are not for complaining, but leaving constructive feedback
missing seasonal candles is a bug
why are u adressing that to me? I know it is a known issue
complain constructively, yes 
TGC seem to really not worry much about giving a moment of relief to players, with ts, events and seasonal candles themselves 
I mean if we can advocate for the prices this season to be less so people get a chance to take breaks from sky
which I agree with. players shouldn't have to log on every single day to finish the season, leaving them little to no time to take a break. If you want to participate in events, you have to grind like there's no tomorrow, which isn't good
Spirits cost more because there's LESS spirits. They have to distribute the costs of 6 spirits to 4 spirits. They also have to do this over a span of a couple months in live. You can actually miss a few days of seasonal candles, at the cost of missing seasonal candles that turn into the normal candles. Right now its hard to do the seasonal candles because in game, they're missing the REALM candles which in beta, they have all 8 candles in every realm, every day.
This is what I mean. The seasons are starting to need you to get on everyday to get everything. It's not the best idea for this, because it causes burnout.
I'm talking about seasons as a whole. There isn't a lot of space for you to miss especially if you don't have ap
it's funny because, the chevron system isn't a solution, but the start of a solution
it's still really grindy, and even if people say that "you don't need that many cosmetics" or things like that, people still want to get a lot if not all
i personally am so exhausted from this season i'll skip out on the next one lol
That's an issue related to events occurring too frequently + too many in game purchases being added + TS on top of that. Not the game being grindy.
maybe it's semantics then
the item collection fever is grindy, not the game itself 
please read our messages again. Before LPP, Assembly was considered to be one of the most expensive seasons on Sky. LPP is a lot more expensive than Assembly. Both of those seasons have 6 spirits. We are taking this into consideration when we're talking about how grindy the game became. Obviously 4-spirit seasons are gonna be expensive because of the reason you mentioned.
Not the game being grindy? The game IS grindy.
But the difference is how much of a grind you as a player want to make.
For example I am at a point where my candle runs are only on where the season's candles are and the cakes.
Any more than that I would burn really hard, but that decision costs me getting other cosmetics as I focus on TS now.
the total amount of seasonal candles needed started to rise ever since prophecy I think 
flight might also be 11 weeks
which I'm not too happy with
Are you talking about Little Prince in particular or the Season of Flight.
the season will probably reach live around october time alongside mischief edit: sorry i read it wrong i thought u meant when it releases
new ts also became expensive, like the cape in the sunbather. It basically looks like any basic cape but just has patterns. For some reason it costed 70 candles, which I believe is too much for this cape.
I think that one spirit shouldn't cost almost 100 seasonal candles. As fun as the game is, it starts to get exhausting having to get on almost every day. This isn't coming from complaining, but as criticism. I almost dropped the game because of how tired it made me. Can we advocate so that this season doesn't do something similar.
@void olive I'm talking about seasons overall
Same, sometimes I canāt complete the quests and feel like I will miss the final rewards 
The current system do leave little space to breathe... the season before the Little Prince... I started at day 50, I didn't make it to get everything
probably around the middle of october yes, iirc we've moved to a longer season format which also boosts spirit tree prices
i mean bruh 20 days isn't enough to get all of the contents of a season
this is the reason why I dont buy AP anymore, I can't farm everyday, I miss days and I'm afraid to not have enough time to get the reward.
I honestly don't really know what I'm still doing here a good over a year now doing cr everyday
you can't believe how relieved I felt when a ts that I already have came
then sword pants got announced 
No no... my countdown was day 50... I missed 20 days only.
I couldnt finish the last spirit in time, even getting all candles each day
The spirits of Prophecy and season of Dreams were 79-86. Does anyone know the totals for each spirit in season of flight because if they are, as of right now, 79-86, then no it shouldn't change.
my bad chief!
I will write a feedback about it later 
Many are of the sentiment IAP are getting... out of hand.
Even TGC made a survey and covered that in a question
the increase in prices is getting higher an higher per season, would be nice for it to be lowered instead of just making the seasons last longer
I hope nobody knows the flight totals, all those null items
we should have a max of around 60 seasonals now anyway
This is not the only reason, I believe one of the issues tgc has to adress is to make the ultimate gift tree flexible. So that people could choose which items they want instead of buying all items in order
Other than longer seasons, what would be the reason that the prices get higher?
i remember when the christmas chair was seen as ultra expensive being 150 candles now things are just getting so expensive
economy balancing so our conversions (in live) aren't that big?
Y'all talkin about a price increase but for 4 season spirit seasons they have stuck with 79 for two spirits and 86 for two spirits so far. So unless its higher I don't think its a concern.
Also, another reason for higher prices is because theyve added more cosmetics to a season.
as a simple commoner player with a simple mind, to keep players playing 
which doesn't make a difference because both ts grind and seasonal grind are huge things that happens at the same time fOr eTeRnItY
But... why adding more cosmetics to a spirit increases the overall price of their nodes? Shouldn't be cheaper?
exactly this, its to keep players playing
But that might turn around and have the opposite effect, in having players leave the game
it has, i have known many people who have quit as more and more expensive things come
i personally feel quitting the game is a much better option than to grind. i don't get what tgc is going for, i find it confusing
No. If you buy two shirts and an accessory from a Walmart irl as opposed to one shirt and one accessories, your total purchase price would increase. 
yeah I believe it is bad for long term
i feel like its much worse for new players, with more ts's coming all being high prices its much more grindy while veterans have most done and dont have to worry
Not taking into account the impact on the player's mental health
Ts alone gives quite a bit of stress for some
Ummm
The more you want players to engage the more you risk burning them out.
And now with some quests having 2 spirits (one that might require you to guide the light to the spirit fragment) chances are just increasing
the guide spirits are the worst to deal with
Yeah. I had to skip ts and days of summer items in live so i can reasonably save for sword pants, and I keep regretting it. I'm suffering from burn out so grinding isn't much of an option anymore. It's not a good feeling having to miss out on items i really wanted :c
I think they need to consider implementing new features to keep players engaged, but not using cosmetics to achieve this.
stance and call spitits have been quite manageable though, no nodes for emote upgrade
speaking of expensive, it is more expensive in IAPs tho, since they provide alot of items for IAP
Just keep in mind, IAP are a choice. TGC just trying to make money to like, live. Unless you guys are comfortable with somehow adding advertising to the game. and bills are expensive 
iaps have been a big argumentative topic for a long time, seeing how they have been priced for mischief its giving me more hope in them listening
shared spaces were made to keep veterans but seems to me this feature didnt get enough success among players
I wonder if the candle and hearts event items wouldn't be a thing, how much dollars those items would cost or even if they would exist 
shared spaces need more work, more areas and more control will make them more popular
Minigames, maybe? I'm not sure how this would work since that might lead the game into a different direction
i would gladly watch ads for candol 
Emotes like the hide n' seek one.
I really doubt there will be ads for the game... I bet TGC makes just enough with an active 10% playerbase of their downloaded numbers achievement they made not long ago
I think competitive minigames and puzzles would be enjoyable to players. Something that could reward some wax when you participate in a gamer. Problem is that it probably could seem like gambling or something if they're not careful. idk bout yall but id want to play checkers against friends.
Building on this, My friends had a volleyball game the other day. I couldn't join but they said it was a lot of fun. So maybe an area like that were you can play minigames and maybe win cute prizes like special spells?
Ads in Sky? Please no
A pity that ball spells didnt stay, I planned to play ball games with friends but in live i actually cant spend my candles on those spells because im saving for swords pants
i would like more interractable spirits which is a direction i think they are going in (you can do emotes with assembly questgiver and the new mischief area has those two walking around talking and doing emotes)
ofc, but people live indifferent countries, and we do have exchange rate here. that what makes it is expensivefor some of us, maybe not for people who live in USA š¤

I like how the cauldron in the new mischief area explodes dark stones with random spells. Anyone know how often it explodes or how to get it to explode
yeah I believe tgc mentioned before that they wont implement advertising
Hallo
For me is 1.5 times more expensive than USA so ye it would be could if we all had the same price convertion
Advertising in a game like sky would be problematic, so high iap cosmetic prices is the best way for any of them to make money unless they make the game no longer free
"Watch this ad to double your candle forging!" (One time per forge and ad, hence one ad for extra candle
)
There would have to be a daily wax limit to keep people from going ham all day, but this idea might even bring back some vets who had quit a while ago
Oop my bad didnāt mean to interrupt a serious discussion in chat here didnāt realize 
Well, where did you get the qualification of light exposure test suit
š±iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
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Lets put it this way... not long ago I saw that Sky got downloaded 100 million times (I bet vast majority are chinese players)
Lets say only 10% of those downloads are active players.
Thats 10 million players... daily.
And inside those numbers I bet there are many who support the game financially, get every single cosmetic and what not.
So yeah, the game is gonna remain ad free for a while.
Vets quitting is simply due to life and getting interested in other games. Idk if it'd really bring them "back" permanently, but temporarily yeah it'll keep em interested.
Minigames would be fun, and it could make actual use out of the valley races, since right now they are a little boring
I offered my ideas of mini games and challenges to wishlist a while ago. Maybe you guys should too. If we all do that maybe tgc would consider that
I love the idea of doing something more interesting than grinding for wax.
The bonfire was a welcome relief
Don't take my words as true since I'm bot certain of it, but I think there are companies that have different exchange rates for each currency, so it's actually accessible in countries where dollar is too expensive
I think Netflix does this? I dunno
The bonfire AND seashells ^_^ was nice just to chill in Home for once
For events they usually add something similar to that. The polluted geyser in sanctuary is a permanent addition. The Halloween cauldron also works similar.
Hallo
Don't forget the bloom tree
Maybe if we one day got a return if Aviary that could be just one big social space, regular home could be more personal with constellations and everything while aviary could be a place to hang out and collect idle wax
mhm, but one thing that still bothers me, they still go with the IAP and candles being bundled, which is not necessary since we can collect candles freely, but we have to pay for candles with the bundled item
It's a mechanic they're investing into these past events, like the blooms tree
And they didn't like that players would go afk and collect the lights and started planning on an afk-blocking-candle-collection like thing
I honestly won't spend like 1 hour talking with friends or running in circles for like 2 or 3 candles tho 
I would love this idea even more, if they added a way to get to aviary easily from home
Where should I get the qualification of that light encounter test suit
š±iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
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I really wish they will. They didnāt for bloom, soā¦
As far as I know, the candles on the iaps are for making the price "more acceptable" or something like that? 
hmm i don't know about this one tho aha š
It bothers me too, and I have send feedback about it a few times.
If they add too much idle grinding, then you just get afk people in a circle around a fire. You'll have a few weeks without idle grinding, but it'll come back eventually in some new form.
Where should I get the qualification of that light encounter test suit, can you tell me
š±iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Maybe we can get an option without candles. Sometimes I just want the item lol
There is a reason for that.
They know the item ALONE will not be enough to entice people to buy it, look at the recent parasol item.
It was 19.99 for one single parasol... if you ask yourself "Will I truly spend that much on a single item? A parasol no less?" Then you start doubting yourself.
BUT it was bundled with 35 Seasonal Candles... thats a week worth of grind for a non Season Pass player.
That much time surely is a pretty nice bonusm
Its a matter of making enough money to live on, including candles with the IAP makes it more worth getting instead of just getting the cosmetics
Problem is that the price wouldn't change, most probably 
Days of summer umbrella being the price it was bc of a candle pack 
That's my problem is when i just want ONE accessory or have a bundle of accessories but cheaper since its a bundle.
There is no invites at the moment. Read #beta-faq
So... thoughts on Krill Snipers
Bundles would be such a good business move, they should do them a bit more
why are krills so unavoidable. There's never enough time to hide and then you have to deal with the wrath of 7 people holding your hand bc theyre too afk to react. 
Good thing I don't have much money so I don't even get excited for some iaps 
Hence the word āreliefā.
The daily grind is sooo time consuming, especially if you play both live and beta.
Seriously, itās a full time job.
Having serious health issues lately, I appreciated giving myself a little break
Definitely a bug of some sort, broken hitboxes and acceleration of the hitbox towards the character, things like that happen and i dont think theres any way itāll actually come to the game
Thank you very much.

Yeah, I wish we could buy the single item
I also see someone got Double Krill in Office... like 2 Krills bean 1 Skykid, not joking
well, if you look at mischef IAP, lets say the spider cape cost $15 and spooky bat cape cost $17, their difference is on the candles. spooky bat cape has candles bundled with it. do u think thats a bonus or something that we should pay more for candles that we dont want?
People dont see it much... but a full CR is like 3 hours to do.
If you beta test, that would be 6 hours plus trying to break the beta server to report xD
It's 2 hours if you're cool like me
also why y'all doin full cr. just do prairie, quest realm, big candle realm, and maybe fire and air trials 
Sometimes it stretches even longer if you get unlucky with server merging. Once I had to wait almost half an hour for 8 player door
And challenge dependant... sometimes it just takes longer to beat the thing xD
RIP their 8 winged light /j We collected them.
Also the Crab Prank Spell is OP, we can hide and Krill will never see us >:)
wait... I just said that out loud didn't I.
Oh gosh, I hope TGC didn't see this
That's probably actually intentional. i hope
I think i scared the crap outta someone with the crab spell
Krill: 
Me: Bury underground
Krill: 
How can something as cool as witch pants be so affordable compared to others like bat cape
is it bc of no candle pack?
I wish they'd add a seasonal item to repel krills already, or add an ultimate shield gift to the wasteland elder for 150 hearts because like... krills are a little too overpowered imo.
Well... Money and Taking care of Staff members is a thing
Weāve been told that candle bonuses donāt affect the actual IAP prices, it truly is just a bonus
Tbh I think the new IAP items have lower prices due the huge amount of IAP in this event (the Mischief one, since items from one and two years ago will be coming back too) with different costs each

My bad , I know itās all subjective to what is affordable and also the worth of an item.
guys I meet a weird bugļ¼ the Starlight from littleprinceseason became desks
I just realize. Oops
I would like more base game items. So ultimate shield gift from wasteland elder would be like the best ultimate gift in game
I agree, tbh what I think happened is (all speculation) that they lowered the price of new IAP bc the old mischief stuff combined is quite expensive. IMO witch pants would be worth more than a bat cape, but since they canāt change the price of returning items, they had to make the new ones cheaper.
I donāt do full and it takes me most of my day.
You see, I canāt just ignore friends that tp to me along the way and want to chatā¦
Also the new dailies are more time consuming, new players donāt know those past season spirits well, the icons are still tiny and cryptic, and Iām not even mentioning the Carry the light around the frikkin map onesā¦
Yeah, that's what I think too
But I'm grateful anyways

I so much wish that older items could come back cheaper :c It's fair to older players, but not the best situation for newer players. However if they did this everyone would wait a year to get old cosmetics for discount
Yeah. I'd like it be a base game item too, one that's super useful to players and you dont have to wait until a TS or be disappointed that it's an ultimate you'll never see again. 
You know I'm here to Test things before things go Live. I don't have any money to spend (YouTube please give me Monetization :')
is it normal to not be able to go home while using crab rock spell..?
I also get a server's worth of players coming along for crs. Ik what you mean, but i also establish a bunch of rules like man who drops off me is left behind, i make people stand at the end of drag quests so they're not in my way, and introduce the sky wiki to new players. 
I forgot to report that. I think it's a bug. Can you sit with crab rock spell?
We don't even have 100% chance of the items or events to repeat the next year
Like, we could just not have the feast table again this year, or something else
Things like the bull mask from the Chinese new year doesn't seem to make sense to come back next year, since it's another animal, no? Same thing with the leaf cape because they didn't donate to earth day campaigns, but people asked so much that they bought back that Cape 
Good thing about the new quests is that it shows past seasonal spirits to players who haven't gone through eden yet. I was able to in beta
Bug reports are still on maintenance?
btw i wonder why they can't change the returning IAP's prices
Oof, guess so
the playerbase wasn't happy with older iap coming back as costing hearts and candles
As someone who's an older player, i see a lot of vet players who complain about how it's unfair if the price for something they had to buy full price in the past went down and now it's cheaper. I totally disagree with this myself, considering how expensive it is for new players to buy new and old cosmetics. But it's still a point of consideration since new players can pick and choose what cosmetics they specifically want. They dont HAVE to get pumpkin hat, especially when it might be a reoccurring item.
I have a new conspiracy theory!!!
there were iaps like that?
The only grip I have about this is that we don't know whats going to come back and what isn't :/. If there was a bit more transparency, players might really get to choose better
I don't play beta myself but I have a question for those who do. Yesterday there was some beta testers telling people in live not to go to Eden today. Does anyone know what's up with that?
Oh gosh, Guess now Beta have to deal with the IAP things. Time for Community Managers to listen in to Beta Player feedbacks for the IAP
What the lovely people above me said ā¬ļø I understand why older players who purchased it would feel ripped off if it became cheaper.
what was the update for eden?
Yeah, thatd be my issue. There's no guaranteed "The annual IAP is coming back once more!" or "Limited time only! You'll only see this in stores once"
I think it was the 2018 halloween items
does anyone know if there will be an instrument for the season of flight?
You'll find out at reset tomorrow@š
Itās why I feel they really shouldnāt price things like a cape or an umbrella so high at $20, if they will be returnable. They will eventually become outdated in the future with all the better newer stuff
I see it this way:
They enjoyed it for way longer and they got ultimates and cosmetics that weāll never have access to.
Iām about to pay 35-40$ for a lantern whose sole purpose is to save my eyesight because the game has way too dark areas, despite players asking for a fix for ages.
This is just preposterous, but I donāt really have a choice
Likely not if we're basing our guesses off of the preview picture. No one seems to be holding and instrument. But the cosmetics are still WIP so who's to say
I wouldn't ask if I didn't want to know. Could you just tell me?
Or if they do come back, allow two purchasing options. One with candles at original price, and one without so its a bit cheaper
They could lower the price and then give everyone who already bought it a nice candle pack

As good of an idea that is, some people would get mad. It would look like a reward for playing earlier and having money at that time
i wont lie, I was harshly disappointed by the lantern. I can't look at it the same. It was originally supposed to be a nice light but also be used as a candle and could light red candles and burn darkness. That never got added 

This emoji was added to this server before season of the little prince started beta testing
It clearly is the businessman's level 3/4 emote
And now with the new voila emote.
It can be seen in sunbather's spirit memories.
TGC? Story time?
Ah, I donāt want to spoil anything for you š. Just wait a few days and youāll see
is it because of the new quest tomorrow?
That reminds me I should go to Eden this week...
beta is literally all about spoiling people. You might as well spoil if someone is asking for it. Just put || at each end of your message to censor it.
It's not too late for them to add this feature. What's stopping tgc from updating older iap items, especially the ones that return
its a parody of something else, it has nothing to do with sky emotes (that i cant show because you know, external emotes not allowed š )
ill say it ||eden is where you need to go for the final little prince quest||
oh, ok
Suspicious

What about the second part?
||people say not to go now because goin to eden twice is just a pain||
I know about spoiling but theyāre not in beta themselves. Also I was busy answering another message
Ahh ok! I read past that part of them not being a beta player.
no idea, im waiting for localization before testing the season 
if you look in beta chat, you are basically askin for spoilers lol

Well it doesn't matter much, that person covered the spoil, if anyone wanted to see it then well... thats on them
Coincidence?
I think NOT!
Usually we're not supposed to be intentionally giving information to players who specifically come on here and ask for it. Or at least fulfill their outfit requests. But i read past the part they're not a beta player because I'm blind!
Anyways before I go, anyone has a slight idea when the season's nodes will be unlocked?
And if anyone at TGC addressed the "You unlocked/bought the node before it was even in the game"
they have given no idea on that yet, apart from eventually lol give it a week or 2
they'll add the items when theyre ready
No. You'll only know when its (probably) safe to buy a cosmetic when there's not a null sign ā , and they announce it on #beta-announcements
if you got them now when they basically dont exist, theres a high chance they wont appear in your closet as it has happened with other null items in the past
for now, save all your seasonal candles
Well guess thats that ^_^ thanks for the tips.
I have to do Eden in Beta tomorrow to Claim my Daylight Prairie Elder Cosmetics.
And I realize I have no hearts
even so, the smartphone prices are reduced over a year, why can't IAP tho?šš
At least there... Sky isn't the only one that has price up... Discord too... (I heard some news from Discord Partner)
BEST
ARGUMENT
EVER
I rest my case, your Honor
why do u need hearts? elder hair costs ascended candles
IAP is free in beta
Not just Smartphone...
Apple Refurbished Store: 500$ for an Refurbished M1 Mac
Year later: 300$?
I'm dumb
THIS.
SINCE WE CARE ABOUT IN GAME ECONOMY!!!
⨠CAPITALISM āØ
always wondered why an ingame economy existed for sky
So we can test things... ofc.
So what if it came to Live...
crying Skykids I see
Old iaps should be cheaper than new ones.
like a 3-7$ discount per old item depending on the price
currently not because of fairness to vets and thats it
Veterans already have the item for 2 years though. Its not a major loss, but will benefit the new players who see 82$ worth of iaps
yeah as someone who owns them i wouldnt really mind if they get slightly reduced like put into a big bundle all together for a lower price
If they have a Good amount of Income
It isint some kind of major discount like 10$ for both items.
Just 20-25$ insted of 30$ per pack
It should be cheaper because its an old iap. Its like selling an old phone for the same price as the newer one which... is old
personally id like a way for ultimates to return, like, collecting every single one of their spirits when they come as travelling spirits and if you have every item from that particular season you could buy for a high but fair amount
You saw the meme?
the pendants should never return, those are like the iconic items being the pass itself however seeing how a lot of ultimate cosmetics are nice would like them to keep, also for the tree ultimate meme, that is dumb and not i have in mind
Do we know when days of summer lights testing is starting in beta?
It was already tested
my idea is like a spot in vault where you can meet some of the prior season ultimate spirits and there would be a book that checks of every item you have until completed, would be a cute idea and another end goal for players
It will be starting the 20th of September in live
Yeah it would be good to have them back... (probably a Good amount of Feedback in #live-feedback and #beta-feedback ... maybe...)
the topic of ultimates doesnt really belong here right now, lets go back to beta 
Derp, the staff just spoken... Back to Beta
So the baby manta call spirit, they're candle for the first quest, is it still floating off the ground
well, sky iap doesnt have price up for the same item compared with last year, the price is the same, not up
Right... sorry for the misinformation.
Im worried about 2022-2023, iaps would be at least 100-150$ from days of (event)
by that time, i wont play the game anymore gahahha
I actually have neutral thoughts on IAP but I don't like to discuss here or anywhere since I think it deserves a Story.
A lot of people contacted me about this...
Ill say the new iaps are priced alright, the old ones are too pricey
30$ for a cape and hair or 28$ for horns, pants, hair and prop
Kinda agree. At least more people will able to afford it
aslong as the prices balance out from the tonnes of feedback we have given, it should be fine
the new iaps for mischief being around 10 bucks or lower is best and if continued is much more fair for all
Yep. (I forgot I replied some, I meant to reply @iron nacelle)
I just hope old ones will someday be discounted for at least 5$ less
I actually agree with that. As long there's no trouble in TGC side and if there's enough feedback. We should be good
plus no bundles, that is good
I actually need to do something somewhere... See ya tomorrow morning. Doing Eden Speedrun tomorrow as well.
Emote bug is back 
The one where you skykid stops doing the emote to stretch
It ever get fixed?
Yes, it was fixed 
hello, is carry your friend black out when they hold your hand was intentional? i thought last time they said that was a bug? In live it wasnt black out, but i still cant press the carry button when im holding their hands, or they were holding others hands
I believe it said somewhere that function was blocked to prevent crash, for now.
probably an extension of a crash prevention mentioned here (we're now able to offer a lone player piggyback while we're holding hands with someone else, but you can't offer piggy to someone already holding hands with someone else): #beta-known-issues message
ohh pog, thanks a lot guys
hopefully they manage to find a complete fix for it, it makes it a bit trickier to do group runs with people you haven't friended yet 
yes its a bit annoying when you or their friend need to release hand first to be able to carry 
How do you trigger the Giant Manta ride? I've done three spirits, but no manta is appearing. That instruction is staying active at the bottom of the screen.
bugggg
My friend is smart, they wait for for a second before doing new stuff.
The beta...it looks so amazing and wow and dhsjsj
I can't wait for the next season!
If the cosmetics are as amazing as the season looks to be, i will have no problem deciding if I want the pass or not
Same, Itās been so much time since Iāve been so excited for a new season 
Can't submit a bug now?
yeah, the bot's down š
Skybot has been a little unstable
hopefully theyāre back soon to eat your bug reports 
I understand, they didnāt pay the robot, so the bot went on strike
Anyone tried the star projector this build?
who hasn't? we love tables
yes skybot should be eating bug reports, not seasonal candles
I thought the table stacking was a table prop bug not star projector when I saw all that 
worried non beta guy here, is it true that you will lose wl 100% no matter how far you're from krills?
it's a known bug
will it get fixed?
it should
yes it should, no way people capable of dodging the krill still loses wl
most of my krill lover friends quit the game after hearing this :(
Assure them that itās a bug
It's just a bug in beta , it doesn't mean it's intentional by TGC or final. One of the TGC Devs was specifically asking for footage of the issue so be calm , they are looking into it
hard to assume it's a bug because tgc made anti krill spell right after that :|
hope it doesn't get added on live, sorry for taking your time
Hope that krills dont become aimbots that can noscope anyone they see. It ruins the trill and makes your flying skills useless
(Feedback sent) but I still wanna ask, do you think/hope the model of the pumpkin lamp will change instead of having the assembly backpack model?
TGC specifically came in this chat asking for testers' input and more information on the krill bug earlier because of feedback and reports about it. They are looking into it, so I would be hopeful it's fixed soon before Live 
They asked for videos of what dodging krills while flying looked like before, if you have some, please do send it to them!
Boy, will you like guardians from journey then! 
We must strengthen the krill!
Tbh I'll be reluctant to buy anything if they keep using the exact same model
hey everyone !! quick question!! ive seen a video where a person showcased all the pants and capes, but, like , are the items even complete? for me they dont show up for previewing either, so, did they purchase it ? im a bit lost!!
Most likely a hacker, If you find them. Report them
i assumed that too!! ill be on the lookout ! thanks for the help 
Hello beta
I'm a not beta tester 
Season of Assembly has passed for quite a long time but that backpack model is still being used in lots of items. I tried to be patient but I really wonder when they will show us something else and look forward to seeing unique models for each item
Ohhhh the bug Chanel is back
i agree ! i was a bit disappointed when some of the items that came w backpacks all share the same model!! its a little lazy imo, id love to see atleast different colours or symbols on the backpacks
The developers already explained it, the same way that quest shrines still have the gratitude logo on them even though that season has already passed, they will use the assembly logo on certain decorative items so people will associate it with the shared spaces feature
Those bags should be there for assembly items and non seasonal items like chairs ect.
But i hope the halloween and future events dont have bag models
Still i would prefer having unique designs that i can carry on my skidās back 
It's okay to disagree with their decision, but there's a reason for it at least. A great topic for #beta-feedback if you haven't already 
ohh So that means they're actually not gonna change them?
Alright hmmm not quite acceptable for me
Because I think those unique designs are actually one of the characters of this game
It would be interesting to have a part of the prop popping out of the bag
Like the flags from the anniversary event, it could have a single (and shorter than the fireworks staff, for example) pole coming out from the bag
Keep in mind that this doesnāt mean that every prop will be a backpack, just the ones the developers intend to be used in shared spaces
the one time I have enough hearts for maskless I canāt buy it 
Speaking of this, has anyone noticed the usage rate of shared space? Maybe this is a good feature, but it seems that most players have not used this feature
I personally do not use itš
me too
yeah it needs more incentive to use as i go to em but there is no real reason to
Hey there
hey
Uhm I need help, how do I report sky videos showing unreleased beta content? items we physically cannot have right now
you can dm them to @hardy carbon for the devs to see
That help bot
I think you found a youtube one probably..tell the bot the problem and put the link too don't forget the link 
Thank you!
yeah if you send them the link they will dmca the video
I think it just doesnāt really serve a unique purpose in the game. The idea is to place more than one prop, but the area to do so, is limited in size and you have to wait your turn. Not to mention, you need to own props to place any down.
Idk I just donāt think there is any specific reason for me to go to shared spaces, when I can place chat tables anywhere in sky. So I donāt use them.
Is a good idea, but you need to have items and the truth I am not going to waste my candles on junk items just for a shared space
i think most new props will have assembly logo, especially ones you can place in shared spaces
Is anyone else having trouble with the days of mischief area portal not appearing?? I have no idea if I need to do something to get it to show up or what but Iām really lost.
theres a dark shadow beast thats hidden in one of the rooms and u gotta interact with that
Is that not allowed?
have you checked the bathroom?
Iāve done that a few times, and nothingās happened. It might be bugged for me but idk
Hacked things are not allowed in this server or outside the hacker is more like doing a crime
but we can report them to @hardy carbon
O i thought you meant beta content video's
Shared space would be used more if it can be placed anywhere in sky imo
can someone link me to the beta looking for group channel i cant find find it š„²
thank you
so thereās supposed to be no person in the office right
If you mean the Non Person Character (NPC) for Halloween, correct. All of them are in the Mischief area
Did anyone else get event spells automatically activated while burning the particles in the event area? I tried re-reading the update notes and known issues but iām still confused
yes, that's a feature. you can activate free spells by burning the urchins that the cauldron spits out every now and then
spells I've seen include pumpkin head, web cape, huge, tiny, chibi, tall, the new crab trick, among others
thank you! it was a bit surprising 
The spirits from this season donāt have any cosmetics put in them yet right? So if I saw something online showcasing those items, should I report it?
Yeah
Where is the backflip spirit for todayās daily
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
At the ice rink to the left upon entry
Citadel in a tower on the left. š
Thank you!
ā¦I should sleep. I thought you were asking about Twirling Champion 
man i'm still struggling trying to find the backflip š is there a picture reference by any chance
Its in a tower to the left
i heard for the days of mischief, the prices rised, can anyone show or tell me the new prices
#beta-announcements has a price list
did they really raise the price? iirc it's the same back in 2020 Days of mischief
it wouldnt be fair too if they raised the price
Will the bat cape come back?
Itās in the event now.
If you want to get that on BETA, go to Office>Summoning Krill room (that has no toilet), and you'll see a portal. Enter and go down underground, and then go to the right side that you'll see a PROP CHANGING POINT and a Tree root, and you'll see a door
Oh okay thank you š just wondering for the live version
FACT: Bat cape and witch hat isn't available everywhere you go in any realms at BETA but it's only available at the Secret area of the office when you talk the NPC witch
I just realised that tomorrow at reset thereās gonna be like millions of players going through Eden- wow- thatāll be great 
Please tell me im not the only one who cant get into the halloween area rn
Think of the players who went today and didn't read into the foreshadowing of the 6th quest. 
rip to players that went to Eden today 
50% chance that some players will get Krilled in Eden,
and 45% chance that some players will survive in Eden by strategy, and 40% chance that some players needs an Eden uber
when the 7th Little Prince quest is activated
Me oobing the whole way there 
Omg #looking-for-group-live chat will have like a 2 hour cool down hahaha
moths that hasn't gone to Eden gonna be grabbed by the masses
its a good time to practice my eden oobs i suppose
So this is a big challenge! 
Is the small plane above Wind Paths a unique asset or was it used elsewhere in Sky?
Hi I was wondering why no hair in the season for beta xd?
The cosmetics for the season aren't obtainable yet, likely because they're still being worked on. Have patience and wait for a further update, things get changed and fixed a lot in the early stages of testing
I wasnāt here during the Prince in beta, so I wanna ask if the last Prince quest coming in a few hours gonna take place in ||after pnr||? Ty for the reaction 
I glad they change location that they didn't even mention on #beta-announcements and finding it for minutes
I imagine that it's intentional for players to find the area themselves and give feedback on the difficulty of doing so 
Didn't find the NPC witch last time? 
did eden in beta today, almost got krilled, got hit by rocks, and got hit by more rocks
Phil Swift: That's a lot of damage!
When will the new version be updatedć
I lazy going to beta during first build of 0.15.0 but when I can't find the entrance at the next build when they change it to toilet
IDK why they change to toilet but we can know that irl office toilet have skret entrance
i heard that there were krill changes; could anyone tell me if krill dodging (aka flying to dodge krill, no tricks) still works in beta, or if you just get smacked by krill asap
When they are ready to release the new version
Not sure if itās a bug or not, but flying trick to dodge krill doesnāt work anymore
That doesnāt work anymore. I watched a video someone tried and lost stars on YouTube. Check it out
they changed it to toilet due to photosensitive players on flashing tv
sEiZures
its a bug, do you really think krills are able to fire projectiles and shoot your wing light off?
a dev also investigated into this
people has been passing it off as an actual change on social media
its the chibi fall "patch" all over again
Where was the backflip spirit again? 
citadel, close to the left corner near a hut
Aw man, here we go again 
I'm gonna have a lot of passengers to uber in eden soon 
oh, hm. interesting! do you have the video link?
Lose 1 winged light from using the Multitask Glitch. It patched.
The only way is the spell
Crab Hide and Krill Dodge Spell is OP
I really want the TGC Blue Cloak, but I don't want to spend the money?
Spending money is the only way to get it in the live version. But itās free in the beta.
I wonder why that one is fixed, its not even a glitch and its like a good strategy to dodge krills
AFAIK, dodging krills but still losing light/s is a bug
Ah i see, good to know 
Fact: Spend all ur AC to get tons of Krill spell 2x
Calculations:
20 krill spell = 10AC
100 krill spell = 50AC
guys
@spark lance
Whenever someone leaves the android beta program a slot opens up on playstore and anyone can download it.
About the log in, maybe the servers are having a issue you have to wait
oh ok! Thanks for reply
grab the krill spells while you can for testing, there's no telling if they'll stay after the event
Finally, AC is useful.
Im imagining a krill shooting lazers out of its spotlight like a tie fighter or something
What if we use Krill spell while running in Eden? š
gives you a little bit of breathing room, but a minute isn't that long
me stocking up lots of krill repellent spells and never going to use them just like recharge potions
Can't wait for next beta update
some peoples are MAD about those unfinished things that happens inside beta and thinking thatās the official changeā¦
Just like what happened to the NULL LOGO appeared on a guide tree (and everyone thought it was supposed to be the Summer Umbrella)and people were going 100% rage for that to be an IAP
the summer umbrella logo wasn't even present on the summer guide tree.... because it wasn't even the summer umbrella
it showed the null icon
and everyone thought it was the umbrella
Sorry for that lmao,My memories are getting dizzy but u get my point,lemme edit my msg so it would leads to another war lmao
ya i get... there has been many cases like this, just the nature of how rumors are passed around
Hello! I can't seem to find the like/hide button for notes (boats, medi shrines). Is there a way to show this or it's just a bug for me?
I canāt find the first spirit for todayās quest :ā) pls help me
Go to Spirit door that it'll go through Citadel at ice rink and turn left
just realised the new daily quest feature where we can get quests from home statue means we're not gonna see the old chunky quest giver spirit ever again 
rip


#bringback
The wax from geyser disappears if not collected after 30 secs right? Wanted to make sure before leaving feedback.
Isnt that the same spirit as the one who sleeps on the home boat?
The roses on the b612 have disappeared. is this bugļ¼
NOO chunky spirit

Yāall know the meme
DK CHUNKYāS DEAD
yeah pretty much


be like: Adios forevs fam
How to apply for the qualification of test suitš³
š±iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
you gotta wait for the next invite wave š³
Well if you look at them closely,they actually have different masks! So not exactly the same
Little prince turned into a ghost

gotcha, thanks for that info 
but how are we gonna know which realm is quest realm
the feature shows the realm
I wonder if the krill spell still remains even tho the mischief event ended
@naive solar Thank you. Where can I see the announcement time?
Bug reports have returned 
Anyone else experiences a quest that is active in the new area , but not officially activated ?? It has to do with the weird rocks that disappear and you get yourself locked out of the game controls while spiral flying
its the great manta
Whenever they need more testers, a community developer makes an announcement and mentions the Beta Invites role. There is no set time
I wish new invites wave come soon

What do you guys think about multi realm daily quests?
no plsš
How about seasonal candles in the seasonal area instead of one of the realms?
would get tiring quickly
They used to do that, I'm pretty sure. I want to say Enchantment was like that
hmmm for me, acceptable but some places a bit far away
At least, when Wasteland came up in the quest rotation during Enchantment, the seasonal candles were in Ark, if I'm remembering right
I think we got some bugged seasonals in ark during some later beta cycle
let me dig those up
I used to think seasonal candles would only be found in seasonal areas 
got it, we had some bugged dreams seasonals in ark last december, didn't give wax though 
Yeah it's almost like that's the whole point 

time to throw it to feedback XD
Im not part of beta testing⦠how many hearts are the october table?
33 as of now, beta is subject to change
Was krill repelling spell added this update? :000 excited to try it
it's here for the days of mischief event
hi, I can't find the days of mischief area, where is the entrance ?
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
I found it ! thx !
Hmmmm I want š in ark.
dear beta tester, is the asteroid jacket worth it?š
there's a free trial spell for the cape in the boat shop
use it to try it out, up to you to decide if its worth it once you get to try it out
no. itās far too expensive.
How often does the wax from the cauldron appear in the Halloween location? Is there a daily limit on it?
Can any beta people see if the capes are worth buying?
Like, wear the green prince pants, prince hair, normal mask, any cape from season of flight and piano
Would really love to know
We are not supposed to honour outfit requests in beta... please check the pins for more details 
Ok
Meh 
People do be saying that yoshi(the spirit that has the pumpkin hat and bat cape) is not making it into live due to the excessive amount if iaps tgc has released during days of mischief, is that true;-;
Beta testers don't know these things...we just test and feedback on stuff
Thatās not true, the event is still in testing. Please wait for the official announcement issued by TGC in #news
honestly i don't find legacy IAPs "excessive" unless they want to prevent people from buying them all impulsively
even separating them into their own npcs is a way to prevent overbloating of the IAP store, so there's even less promotion of those legacy IAPs
but hey you never know 
!ts
The next Traveling Spirit is scheduled to arrive on <t:1630566000:F> (<t:1630566000:R>) 
Seems to be a rumour to me because it want announced officially
I don't see the problem and i also don't believe this rumour. It's great to have a choice and it doesn't mean you have to buy everything.
Ok so no change to the last quest for LPP...I was so hoping they took some feedback and let you meet the prince in the black room and fly with up to orbit.
I honestly wouldn't worry too much with speculation since it takes a lot of energy to prepare for something that won't happen, so try to relax about things the best you can 
Please be one I already have!
Do you understand that already made content canāt be replaced over night? It can takes months to make a 1 min preview.
Evidently not and a shortcoming of a small team to add a shot of the prince in the black room at least but I take your point that would be time consuming when they were focussed on the new season.
However by that same logic we are now stuck with the current cutscenes in the quests and there is little point in feedback on the story of it...
I hope that isn't the case and we are able to tailor the quests during the season within acceptable limits
Just a question, in the global version is the things of the next season but hidden in the game codes? I swear that heard the new call at global, im not totally sure but- eh.
We don't know because we just get the whole update for testing. Regardless I don't think so, there's a high pitch call bug been going on in live for months. Very rare and almost identical to the new call
Oh yea, got it.

So how long do we think the nulls are going to last?
However long it takes
Itās the best thing ever for laughs when you donāt expect it. š
A questionnaire popped up in the game this afternoon, asking me whatās my mood right now. It has only one question. After submitted, I was given 6 candles. Has anyone encountered the same situation? Is that official questionnaire?š³
Me be like :
Withered cape

Autumn cape
š
I don't think anyone apart from TGC can add surveys into the game AND reward you with candles
is it the one that asks you what your mood is? i've gotten that one recently
its just for testing
That's good, but this questionnaire does not seem to have anything to do with Skyš¤ thatās what made me feel confused š
Now that all three of Sky's soundtrack is out, I wonder if we'll ever get a fourth one for the seasons after the little prince
Got it, Thank you so much

What is the autumn cape?
The withered cape is too, thatās why I was confused lol
Dodging krills don't work anymore?
Is it the same, withered/autumn?
hello where is the Halloween room?
it dissappeard from the television
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
Itās now in the bathroom. Black vortex thing.
okay thank you!
Youāre welcome!
They probably were talking about the name. That the autumn cape would fit better
Thatās true! I was wondering why itās called withered. Maybe because there is a hole in it.
I think it's more to fit the spooky vibe,since it will be released with days of mischief
Feel so sorry for new players out there
when they'll see the change in forest map ~
That is NOT how it is in presentations šš
Can you still summon the bathroom krill or is that the other bathroom stall without the vortex?
You can burn the bathroom plant for a proper summoning ritual. If the plant is gone already the krill is already at large
@flat steeple do what?
What do you mean
the bug in environmental lightning which will be fixed?
I wish they would leave it. I love it right now lol
š
It's a bug after all, isn't it?
ayo can we use the crab spell to avoid kirlls
uh,can we link account on beta?because when i tried to link my account there is an error
If ur referring to the bright lighting in forest, itās a bug
as far as iām aware thereās no linking accounts. Beta and Live accounts have no relation to eachother iām pretty sure 
correct me if iām wrong
i mean like linking my account with google so that i can get my account back if i changed my device 
OHHH thatās what u meant
Yes u can do that, iām not sure why itās giving you an error though

Last time I tried. Yeah. I burrowed and it was like the krill went "oh just a crab"
Tgc definitely killed all krill bugs
Nice
I'm looking forward to updates, I'm really looking forward to those placeholdersš«
see the bright side
At least it was fair to present a protection against krill
Please help me
If it's beta testing related, please go ahead with your question. If it's live sky related, you're welcome in #questions-and-help
Don't we all....no one has figured it out yet because the great manta is bugged right now...no one can even see it

Anyone know how to get the old Halloween iaps? I can't find them anywhere
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
Oh - just found the spirit who gives them
Did you mean the "ride the great manta" message you get in the new seasonal area?
If so, that quest is not working in the current beta build and it's causing issues later on too
So we can't help you download the manta sorry
Well, but I can explain how to carry a manta so that if I find one, I can take it
wait you know what would look cool. the mischief items and a trail spell. go full spooky.
What version of beta are you on?
I don't know, I've never used a beta before
Ok so it's not the beta quest you are looking for.... Where did you get this text "carry a manta" or download a manta
š±iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Do you know what beta is ? There's the live app, and the beta app, which one do you need help with? We're finding it hard to understand you because of your wording. You can try sending a screenshot of what exactly you need help so we can understand
I'm sorry, my language is not foreign, I'm Arabic
Also, I saw a video on YouTube about a new update coming that I want to try
I speak Arabic, do you need help?
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Letās carry this to DMs habibiti I got you
Hello everyone!
Does anyone know when days of mischief coming up?
And are the the cape and hair from the poofy hair girl available in candles only?
!omgomgwhen
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
it may happen around when it did last year but nothing is certain /shrug
For now it looks like it's available for candles only, but anything in beta can change so we'll see
Oh well I don't know
I came here to ask when the days of mischief will happened
We know much as you do
Read skybot's message below that
Prices for the Mischief items are listed in #beta-announcements but event start and end dates aren't known until TGC announces them in #news or the patch notes for a future update
Even the table dropped from 44 to 33 hearts
I really hope it stays as candles
I want the cape and hair soooo bad
It's literally my favourite
am i the only one uncomfortable with how little there is of IGC items for days of mischief
everything else is an IAP and the total for everything would be 83 if including tax
this game is becoming such a cash grab. it's upsetting
itās better than last year when all items were IAP
Itās like shopping for clothes , just buy the one you like , you dont go and buy the whole store empty
this is a game, not burlington
yeah
while im not buying all items, it feels a bit expensive when thereās still adventure passes to get and also theyāre purely cosmetic
well this game is literally cosmetics based. And besides exploring stuff and talking to people there is no much to do.
they would get a bunch more purchases it they made it just a bit cheaper or made more items free. (igc)
not to mention that. while this is someday in the distant future
sky is an mmo! it wonāt be around forever. typically if you spend a lot of money on some good clothes at a store you want to be able to keep them for a long time. once the servers go down eventually all of it will be gone for good
i noticed thereās an item in ark spells shop, itās the witch hat but like as an accessory that you can pair with other hair, it wasnāt mentioned in the update though, anyone got an info about it? oh also you can claim the crab free spell twice from ark spells shop & the halloween area
i spent much more than I needed to on this game, they better refund if it goes down permanently š
We will continue with the new area bug until a new mission in 43 days?
and i feel it should be a little cheaper for that reason at least yknow?
i understand that itās a free game with no ads and im very grateful for that. thatās not something you find a lot of on the mobile game market. and im glad itās not gacha as well, like many other popular mobile games are. but it doesnāt change that when these items are not a permanent investment and donāt even have a purpose other than looking nice
itās a bit ridiculous that they can cost as much as $20
Not much that can be done, TGC loves money more than anything
Heyy guys, I wonder that is beta not allowing new users to log in?
i love sky very much. i havenāt even been playing for a year and it has become a part of my daily routine and i love collecting items, iāve bought all 3 adventure passes iāve been around for and i plan to buy the one for the new season too. but part of truly loving something is being willing to criticize it for its flaws, because nothing is perfect no matter how much you love it
just an idea but like ! if they made everything just a TAD more cheaper they'd notice their income improving by alot but that's just me ig ! but they can continue ignoring the poor part of the community and spoiling the rich skykids š„° /sarcasm
Is sky tgc's only active game being developed right now?
Edit: I mean in public knowledge...cos if so they have all their income in one basket so to speak
Ohhh okay got itš„ŗ my friend said that she cant log in hah
i donāt know. but i do know that journey is still selling and such considering i just bought it not that long ago lol
Whenever a new tester try to join an error message pops up to prevent them from logging in
im sorry if im starting something, but this is. bothering me on an ungodly level i can't stand the constant candle running just to get myself something small.
i love this game half to frickin death but $83 total for an event??? what????
I seešš»thanks a lot
so sky is not their only source of income
a possible idea is maybe being able to earn a limited number of wax orbs/candles per day by willingly watching a short ad. like. not in a way that forces it on you. sort of like in neko atsume, if any of you have played that game, when the cats appear with the flyers in their mouths and you can click them to see an ad
like
maybe a shrine you have to meditate at where itās like āif you look at this ad for a second you can get some candles if youāre short on them but donāt have the time to candle run or the money to buy a pack of themā
Don't worry about starting something, we have this conversation in beta chat like every other week. Many people feel the same way.
no, what I want really is to get 30 candles at most from a full cr
not... 16. i don't know every spot.
true thats a good idea as well. i definitely think that there should be more passive wax events like the bonfire. capped, of course, so we donāt get a ton of people being afk 24/7, but even with the amount of free time i have, since my school doesnāt start until Wednesday, i never find myself willing to spend hours doing full candle runs and i can only imagine how it feels for those with jobs or who go to school in person instead of doing virtual classes the way i do
So imo currently the the maple leaf cape and witches/Skidmore hair are igc but expensive....
I guess tgc want to scale things to the economy..
Active Players who stick around longer have a lot of candles tgc want you to spend
Giving you expensive targets that take 5 full Cr days to get is 'something to do'
But again the games needs to move away from just the cosmetics drive
Then the costs of igc items come down when there is less demand....
yeah, i definitely think more fun things to do than collect items would be good. the valley races are a good start. more minigames to play yourself and with friends would be a great idea
Itās actually around $27 if you only purchase those items that release this year,itās 4 of them ,and we have 3 items that are available in in-game currencies too~
I would also like to be able to be able to collect candles more easier(?) But I think that the ads would feel off in Sky,since people would rather login to watch ads and not play (of course not everyone would prefer that,but you get what I ment)
I think it would be nice to implement the mini game quests that they had in light awaits in daylight prairie.(the rock circles with constellations you see in some places) I think if every realm would have a similar mini game as an alternative to candle running in that area,it would make it more interesting(?)
ohhh
it's just the way everything was displayed when I was watching videos on it.. I still want to get the pumpkin hat and the bat cape so it's gonna be more expensive
maybe even minigames that reward wax like the valley races
oh and another thing i think is much needed
better ways to get hearts.
even as someone with a lot of friends, i rarely ever have enough to get event items before they go. theyāre so hard to get especially when you and your friends are saving candles for the candle heavy items like⦠the sword pants. the sword pants are ridiculous
They are separate items or a bundle/pack...currently in beta
But of course the bundle is the better value
And all of it is expensive if you are buying more than 1
i just want to earn candles and hearts easier
and I'm gonna be real the sword pants were probably to bait people into buying candles.
I got your point,you considered every IAPs (pasted and present),in this way that will be surely expensive but those items are IAPs from previous Halloween.itās returning because players wanted it to,so itās really hard to take care everyone feelingsā¦I think itās fair enough for newcomers to have a chance to buy those old items they wished for and also some new items for veterans to be exciting for.
that doesnāt account for players like me who werenāt here last year. this isnāt aimed at you, to be clear, but i donāt get the complex some older players have about āwell new players joined later so they SHOULD have to pay a lot of money for items!ā like. some people joined later because they didnāt know about the game yet, or maybe they did but didnāt have a device that could run it yet. android devices didnāt get support until enchantment! and it feels really classist and anti-poor to me in a game about friendship kindness and connecting with others
if they made stuff 5-10 dollars cheaper and made it easier to get candles and hearts that'd make my poor heart happy
it's all im asking from tgc..
tgc already makes a lot of revenue and im not saying that all items should be free. but i think that maybe lowering the price of individual items would be a better business decision for both consumers and TGC. like, instead of 1 $20 item, there could be 4 $5 items. that way players who can afford less can pick and choose which items they want without having to pay a whole $20 while tgc makes more money than they would have if the player saw the $20 price point and decided to get nothing at all
This.
Thank you for putting my thoughts into words.
I don't get why the oldest 2019 set (hungry pumpkin hat and bat cape) is more expensive than the 2020 set (witch hat and web cape)?
iām not even poor! i am fortunate enough to have the means to get almost anything i want from the game
but i still feel guilty about buying expensive items knowing that they shouldnāt cost this much and that so many players who want them wonāt be able to afford them
Also,don't forget to write your ideas in beta feedback channel! Your feedback will be read and things could change
Although stuff like candle and heart system changes would better fit #live-feedback
To be fair none of the packs are bundled together items (except the 2019 pack) so it is buy one item you like
They just aren't all $5
i donāt understand why so many people are so intent on āwell if you didnāt play during this specific time/have the money for this item, sucks to be youā when the game is about being kind and connecting with others and expressing yourself. it fails to account for people who couldnāt play and generally creates a really hostile environment for new players who see old items and go āoh! thatās nice! how can i get one?ā and then getting yelled at for being greedy and told that itās their fault for not playing the game and paying for it earlier
The message I saw earlier about someone comparing this game to an irl store :l
i so much as mentioned āsome old ultimate gifts are nice. i wish there was a way i could get themā and was ranted at by an older player saying i was greedy and entitled for⦠wanting to express myself with nice items in a video game? iād be willing to pay for them if they were paid items so itās not even a case of āwell we paid for these and you didntā because i WOULD pay for them if they were available to be paid for!
I agree with your other points, but just letting you know that you probably won't be refunded. It's always best to keep in mind that one day you'll stop playing, or yes, the servers could go down completely. I spent between 400-600 on another game, tho the amount is spread over 5+ years of playing ofc. I've no regrets now that I've stopped playing it. So it's best to question yourself and think for a bit before buying something in Sky, or any other game
Especially if you will regret it later on.
I don't really know any online game that has refunded their players after going down
yeah, as long as you enjoy the items while you have them and feel like you got your moneyās worth in the time you had. but that isnāt always the case with some items that just cost too much for what they are
COUGH RAINBOW CAPE COUGH COUGH
it was IGC but still omg
i managed to get the rainbow cape but candle prices are really becoming ridiculous. most players donāt have time to do daily candle runs of every realm. that shouldnāt make them āless worthyā of the items. they shouldnāt have to prove their dedication to the game by spending an unhealthy amount of time grinding money on it
EXACTLY
I agree it feels on the upward trend ...
What would be a better balance for the cape, hair and table?
I feel feast tables was expensive at 150 and this is only 2 seater
So table= more like 20-30hearts?
Hair=30-40
Cape=60-70?
Still a lot altogether but more comparable to other items
sky is supposed to be a game where you can relax and socialize and enjoy beautiful worlds. how are players supposed to do that if they have to spend all their play time collecting wax on the same routes every day?
Table: 15 hearts.
hair: 30 candles.
cape: 50 candles.
Make it more friendly towards people who can't get on all the time to CR.
It would be nice if it is from this way:
One day a week
each candle is multiplied x2
And another day a week
Each candle is multiplied x 3
in ths way those days the game would be more activated and People would be happier
im joining the conversation a bit late but if the talk is about the new halloween table, it definitely shouldnāt cost hearts imo. nothing really should, since the only way is through trading which tgc doesnt support and views hearts as a gift of kindness from friends, which is fine, but it shouldnāt be taken as a currency then
to elaborate, the only thing costing hearts should be things that unlock something to do with friends (in the friendship tree or something like that, not cosmetics and such)
I barely missed season of ., what was it?
I don't know but the ult cape bounced off a manta... i want it so badly
sanctuary
Well the table is a friendship enabler cos it lets you chat...but I agree hearts are barrier a lot of the times
Making for cosmetics feels like gamifying genuine friendships
How i Ping a channel?
I think a lot of folks agree that hearts should be easier to get 
esp solo players
I have to finish my candle run before I don't have the mental energy to, ill see you guys in like 2 hours
one approach that could be considered. ok some people are gonna get really mad about this
but maybe the idea that returning items depreciate in value over time.
itās sort of like⦠ok so.
letās say we have 2 adventure pass players in a season right?
so letās say player 1 doesnāt buy any seasonal candles, just the pass. they still get all the items, it just takes them longer and they have to be more dedicated to doing daily quests.
and letās say player 2 pays for extra seasonal candles. they finish the season sooner, but still get the same items, right?
this supports the idea that paying could be used as a means of getting items FASTER, not getting them at all.
so maybe something that was an iap last year costs hearts or candles this year, and then the next year that price goes down to be fewer hearts/candles. that way it can be more accessible for new players while you donāt pay for nothing at all, because you were able to enjoy it way earlier than those who didnāt buy it as an iap
But hearts are also hard to get. So dishing out so many hearts for something like this is a lot. Hearts shouldnāt be a currency spread out so thin when āfarmingā hearts is very much discouraged 
Soooo true bestie
Perhaps a better idea would be to exchange items Between players, and to prevent abuse, cost 30 candles each exchange
the holiday hat was going to change to igc last year but due to player feedback it was changed back to the original price
idk that would discourage ppl from buying items & that would be bad for business, and waiting would take a while
"Player feedback" is just a sugarcoat term for snobby vets
or rich people! pick your poison
i see what youāre saying but also the fact that people buy seasonal candles when the number of required seasonal candles is perfectly accessible ingame with ~20 minutes of daily quests a day proves that people are willing to pay to get items sooner
i know because ive done it lmao
Im just joking about it mainly because I don't like people who feel entitled to make it harder for poor people to get things
A calm game about skykids honking their hearts out should not remind me of our crumbling economy LOL
Type "#" and you can select a channel.
u got a point there
I think it's fair for items that start as IAP to stay as IAP, I could see why someone would be upset that something they paid real money for is being given away for just 75 candles or smthn
For comparison, the black/white capes in base game are 50 hearts
They are an intial target item for many and takes weeks to get alongside the constellation
This table originally was 44 hearts
Which is more than completing prairie ultimate
A different system or balancing is in order for feedback I feel
Thatās fair. But maybe reduce the price over time at least
I mean that when there is a publication on that channel, I get a notification
So that it still costs money but becomes more accessible. Paying a little bit extra to get it⦠a year earlier than those who donāt pay full price 
I think thatās at least sort of fair
That will not be fair to those who purchased it from last year since TGC didnāt alert players about the price will be deduce by next year didnāt they?Even if theyāre going to do that,they should be at least informing those who want to purchase about it,not after the purchase
We all complain that old games (mainly Nintendo switch games) are the same price as they were when they released even though itās the same game it was in 2017 or so
I donāt see why the same philosophy canāt apply to game items
Just remembering that taking the 70 candles of the cape (if it was
), it would be 80 bcs the spells.
[So the original price of the autumn cape its 109 candols including the spells, dude, i can't-]
or a different way to get hearts would be good too, i dont mean likes from boats etc, but a more realistic approach to get them easier would be nice. or decrease the cost of things, if the halloween table is like 30 hearts, thats another howevermany candles that people will have to put out unless they have hearts saved up. not to mention emotes from ts also cost hearts. Hearts being a currency is bad overall considering were supposed to depend on the kindness of our friends, but who isnāt broke with all these events and theres people with little to no friends too 
Iām not saying it should be changed out of the blue
I would definitely like it to say āthis item will be available for reduced cost next year but you can pay some extra to get it nowā
I've heard one idea of having basegame spirits' hearts reset every once in a while
You can only get roles that could sign you up for updates,If these roles exist in the server in the first place.
You can get roles for pings for invites and updates in #beta-faq
Not the other channels on this server though
that would be nice, but still heavy on them candles 
Yes, but it would at least be slightly more feasible than constantly having to buy boat spells and hope they get seen and begging your friends to send them to you
Is it hard to just accept the fact that "you can't have everything?" Sure it's fun to have variety of items but at the end of the day, it's just an item.
On another note, it seems like this "new ways to earn hearts" thing is a perfect candidate for #wishlist-and-ideas-archived and not really beta related topic.
I donāt mean I want to have everything, I mean I want the ingame currency items to be obtainable without having to spend several hours a day every day on the game getting money.
And for IAPs to be a little more accessible because often the nicer items are the paid ones (in adventure pass, the shop, etc..)
Players shouldnāt be stuck with only the lower quality items of the bunch, if any at all given how much time it can take to get candles, just because they are poor or busy
Yeah! I've had to skip most events and this season because I do not have the time for candle running that much anymore, nor do I have that much money.
Not everyone has a money tree growing in their backyard.
Itās not ānot having everything,ā itās that getting anything at all is starting to become kind of ridiculous.
And I say that as a paying player with plenty of means to buy items.
Such as the pumpkin hat and bat cape set being 25 DOLLARS---
The fact that the game forces me to spend almost months of farming just to get the item i want, I could be doing many other things, but- .... yea, ig u got it 
Iāve been playing since January and I still donāt have any base game constellations completed because almost all my candles and hearts go to constant events, seasons, and TS instead
I've had to skip an entire event (days of fortune) because I wanted to finish the valley constellation
Only had the fluffy hat from it...
No
You reminded me that I've been trying to complete the wasteland for 3 months, and well, sword pants, events, ts-
(97 hearts to complete the constellation now, wish me luck guys
)
Also since I mentioned that I started in January Iād like to bring this message back up before someone uses me being a relatively new player as ammo against me
I started in October 2020 and I have 11 wedges, but honestly I wouldn't really consider myself to be a veteran.
the moment i realised that i was expecting having to buy candle packs alongside cring was the moment i realised that the way tgc is going right now is not very sustainable and thatās coming from someone who doesnāt mind spending money on the game 
I have 11 wedges too! I know itās the max but I feel like it goes to show that newer players can be just as dedicated to the game as old ones
I got my 11th wedge as soon as season of assembly started š
A rich person who agrees with me !!! What!!!! /lh j
A reminder that this channel is for beta testing. Discussing, as well as criticizing, the current event is fine as long as it's done respectfully, but chatter shouldn't evolve into meta-discussions about Sky and currency. I know these discussions tend to head that way, but please keep it on topic and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback afterwards 
@rare glade this is a moderator request, not a question.
I will ! I just like getting other people's perspectives first ^^
Yall I think it's best to head to #wishlist-and-ideas-archived now, or #live-feedback . This channel is for beta testing. I don't mean to put myself above anyone but as someone who has played a variety of online games for around 10 years, Sky isn't the only game with a currency hard to get, or over priced items, or too many iaps. TGC is like any other company. I agree that hearts are a little too hard to get, perhaps some iaps are overpriced, but again, TGC is like any other company and Sky is like any other online game. This is completely normal for games like Sky. You just simply can't have everythingš
You can all head to other channels like #seasons-events-chat, #cozy-sky-discussion or #general-sky-discussion to have more general discussions. This channel needs to be focused.
@radiant drum a
Do you guys want to go to seasons events chat for this then?
We need a gossip channel
ig that would solve the problem
Or a cozy discussion for beta 
It is a relevant discussion topic that can and should be talked about at any moment, but it shouldn't get into the way of other testing. You can leave suggestions for this Discord server in #contact-the-mods as well if you have them 
DEFINITELY, I have so much to say
i won't make it sound mean though
Mainly started it here because Days Of Mischief is still in beta