#beta-discussion
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I wonder if the LP's statue will become a permanent addition in pnr...
will tgc have to pay for copyright/j
Because many people will frustrated when there's an objective on eden but when on the eden there's no instructions
I think make it regular statue but you can honk to position the prince statue
Although it will be obvious but it's make the objective easier
Currently, the statue doesn't show up on subsequent runs after completing the quest. It would be very nice if the prince statue turned into the 64th statue, though. 
any presence of lp in almost any form will be deleted from the game once the season is over
i think the only thing that will stay is his oversized mural
But I'm Japanese so I don't understand English so much I'm sorry
Nintendo 64th statue I'm so sorry
I guessed from your name that you’re japanese, and sorry i laughed at your name i confess…
And no, we’re not talking about rules in Eden, because there’s, erm, not really strict rules on what you can or can’t do in Eden? If that’s what you meant
this was terrible im leaving 
SGJOLGSCHKSKCSH
It's okay, I don't think I'm racist ...
Wait wait wait i didn’t mention anything about being racist…ok ad time, let’s get yourself a deepl app!!! And translate from that!!!
I think, the krill at Starlight Desert could be same as Ark krill. Lonely after the sixth seasonal quest. Lonely, I'm mister lonely.. 
Wait, what about the quest?
It's a Japanese joke ...
we havent received clear answer on that yet
Da quest ist dead…/j
Let’s not joke about racism here please
*seasonal quest
yes, we havent received a clear answer on what will happen to the rose and the prince in spirit memories and the quest
I guess they would need to having negotiation
Oh yeah, i completely forgot about the asteroids…i hope we can still visit there after the season’s over, but i guess copyright
How do you live in the country? I hope you're rude ...
imo they will be changed to grattitude style
you free them from darkness and they give the emote right away without cutscene
I think the topic shouldn't be here
Noooooooo please noooo
dont take this as an official statement that was just my idea
Yes i know, but the mere thought of it kills me
For the 'secret'asteroid area they are going to have to keep something because they are selling it for money...
Maybe they have permission to keep the licensed art there...
Or maybe they will just show the sky spirit interpretations after the season ends?
LP is a traveling human but not from earth
That's potential solutions for spirit cutscene.
is the summer guide missing for anyone else?
But what about the quest. That's the critical point of the problem
I understand, it’s just that i’m gonna miss them so much…
@lucid ginkgo days of summer is over so summer guide gone back to orbit uwu
sad, i never got the hat
see you back in live summer guide 
Prince go vroomm to the own planet after season ends
There is a possibility that the quests won’t be available anymore, but the mere thought…omg
Well, time will tell.
Well we can't relive seasonal quests/cutscenes from gratitude, belonging, rythym etc..pre - enchantment so it might be like that...have to wait and see
True, true
those seasons didn't have seasonal quests and the cutscenes were only available after getting all the items
I see
What about spirits, will they come back?
Yes, they confirmed that in the news post
I'm lost lol
Thanks
ah, I don't know anything about PUBG. is what you're talking about related to Sky?
The copyright part with collabs are ig
Ah well, at least i can get myself emotinally prepared for anything that’s gonna happen in live
Only the spirits are confirmed to stay, but we don't know about anything else. I guess we'll find out more later on in the season in live, since that's the main game.
Just hoping that my favorite things from this season will stay 
anybody want to bust a bug?
Beta experience:
I'm going to sanctuary island: Crash
I go to the vault: crash
I use an emote: Crash
The area unlocked with the Asteroid jacket is most likely going to stay. The player paid for access to that copyrighted content. The IP owner gets a portion of the IAP purchase (royalty payment)... Imagine it like buying an art book from LPP IP owners. They won't deny you access to it.
I think that the publishing company owns the designs for the little prince? Since the models are based on the original art, they have to pay to use those. I guess they only got permission to use it throughout the season
@real rampart Draw me a crab! 
The bot has spoken 
I don't know if they're watching tho...
Yes
Guys... The anniversary hat will not be red 100%... Right? 
Ooh I thought that... Well let me cry behind
It kind of has to be TGC’s colour, doesn’t it? 
It was red because of a bug
Hiii
Ooh... Even though it was better for me

quite a lot of people liked it while red, but it was a bug, so that's just how it was supposed to be, blue 
that's why we don't get attached to beta and them 20 hearts umbrella
I recognize this 😭.
Almost every map crashes: sanctuary, forest brook, valley after social area, GW when tumbling down to broken temple, vault after 1st floor, eden from home gate,.... It's impossible to do dailies, collect al sc or collect some wax, can't finish the season,...the list is endless!!!
Seems to happen most of the time with players with a Samsung device.
I'll hope they'll fix this within the upcoming week so at least I can go to Eden 🥴
I’m using a xiaomi and also has my ticket to the a crash train,with many Samsungs. The last two update really made it worse. Happens, i just wish it not to come to live
hey beta people, is the flag for the anniversary event worth the candles? I'm not sure if i want to save my candles when the event comes, but i want to hear some opinions from those of you that have the prop (if yall regret it or not?)
I'm genuinely curious if the cutscenes for the spirits will stay after the season dhshss
.... considering. TLP.
The 2 recent updates made it indeed a lot worse!
Unfortunately the communism hat was just a bug, comrade
I like using it! I place it around the realms hoping someone will use it as a photo prop or just think it’s fun. It works well in a Shared Space so that’s a bonus 
Found two bugs to report today! Made a not-great day a little better 
They are fun and nice decorations. Besides that, they don’t have much function or collision either iirc, but basically the only colorful items you can get. Plus who knows if they will ever come back or not. 
hey, was the sunflower hairpin removed and replaced with the shell??
I don't recall there being a sunflower hairpin, I thought it was always the shell. Unless I missed something?
there was never a sunflower yea
Can I ask you guys what are the free cosmetics on days of summer until now? 
Do you mean the Days of Healing flower (the white one)? That was a different event, one-time-only if I recall correctly
Free as if for candles? The summer hat
There's been images of a sunflower hairpin shared around. It might be hacked content or CN exclusive. Nothing TGC ever confirmed themselves.
Omg Hi Kai, haven’t see you in ages, back to beta?
Oooooh I see. 
J... Just? 
oh, huh, i did see a sunflower hairpin on instagram from someone who supposedly had beta, maybe i was just misinformed
Hey Pakka! Yeah I’m back in beta (and live too) 
Sunflower haven’t been available in beta so far., we don’t know if it ever will.
My memory is a little foggy about the summer guide tree but I believe the hat and two spells were there plus the removed null item. Anyone else with better memory?
Summer Guide also had one of the sets of chairs. The other two sets were with the TS, as well as the pipe thing I think
Uhh i totally associated those with thrill seekers since both are props
you are right
how do I report a video with hacked content again?
Outside this discord? Send a link to @hardy carbon
aight
i wonder why they changed the location for the cake candle in sanctuary
it was in such a perfect spot....overall candle distribution in sanctuary is the best in the whole game
That candle cake was in a perfect spot..you'd get up to the top. Get reacharged by that. And be able to fly over the wl in the distance.
everything in sanctuary is perfection...pls dont ruin it for me tgc 
i bet its the little prince...he couldnt leave without causing chaos
the prince? if so, it might be because it gets in the way of the cutscene, perhaps
That's it, everyone. It's time to cancel the little prince. /s /lh
They could code the cutscene to make the cake and it's wax invisible during the cutscene...
I think a 30% chance to see the devs about the black screen bug. So if this beta version will be released in live with no black screen fix, bigger problem
we havent finished testing most of the stuff for this testing round, so i doubt the devs will release the current build, we will have many more in daus to come.
i bet testing of days of summer lights starts on monday
it's also weekend for the devs themselves
they have rests too 
I'm still remembering them throwing the little prince cosmetic prices bomb and going into 3 days vacation

melts 

did a beta reset just happened?
never mind i am just a dumb dumb, i was using another account sorry
Just a small survey but how likely is it for invisible cape to come to live? 
When TGC deems it necessary. Currently, there is no plans to bring it to live.
It’s been 100 years 
#beta-discussion message it's also in the pins
I see.
Thank you for the feedback. 
I can understand why they don’t, in beta when I’m with my capeless friend, their avatar out of shape, sometimes leg hovering over head
and it contradict with the looking for winglight but without wing 
Ssksksks you have a point.
Just wish there'd be something to spend hearts on when you've already bought everything, including from TS. 
The scarf Cape itself is already kind of a invisible cape, so you can imagine how surprising that is 
I guess I'll never know why they choose to make it a Cape instead of an scarf that would bounce on top of the cape... 
Having a 999 hearts item is good for veteran to have a goals or something, maybe they can change it from invisible cape to other cosmetics like “super cape” 
Think of the physics required to math that out and some of the lower end devices that run Sky.
Yeahh, the scarf looks soo cool.
The problem is, I'm broke. 
A
Ascended brown cape--
Moth cape needs some love too. 
Looks good with the jumper from Assembly tho. 
Brown cape looks good with almost anything
The fire cape from the hunger game as “super cape” cost 999 ❤️🤣 RIP old phones users
Or maybe like a glowy transparent cape, like the mantas in vault. 
Or- or- lamp Cape! 100% blindness guarantee! 
Omg old glow spell cape
Am I able to ask questions here? Let me know if not or to delete this but I was wondering!
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How long did you all Test the little prince season before it came out?
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How long have you all been testing the summer items?
If you don’t know it’s totally okay! I am just genuinely curious!
I think we tested summer guide 5 days only
And we started testing the lp season since 29 May and it’s a few days til it ends in beta (i had to peek into #beta-announcements for exact date
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Ohh okay I see! Thank you very much for the answers!
Sorry to ask this, but did a progress wipe happen in Beta rn?
Edit:Oh 
I would have felt a disturbance in the force from all the invisicape skykids.
Asking for science, was the bench in the clouds above Star Collector's entrance always existed or have existed in beta prior to the season's release in live?
Is it this one?
#beta-screenshots-videos message
yes... yES
Thank you for this wonderful piece of information, Nick
Oh wow, maybe I am unobservant, but I never noticed that. Just like I didn't notice the secret tunnel with the 3 islands until the season hit live and I was randomly flying around 
I just noticed the little chat area at home. It’s so cute! How long has it been there?
Since days of summer begin iirc
I'm very happy they added that. Now moths who dont have chatting props can chat at home too
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Ahh I just noticed it haha, and yes I agree with Puffers! I’ve been hoping for a chat area at home for the longest
I think it's only here for Days of Summer, but you could leave feedback if you'd like to see it around more than just then I suppose. It took me a day or two before I noticed it as well, I think because it floats around the whole area so if it's behind the big land areas it's harder to notice if you're not looking there
Yes I noticed that, I did left a suggestion on permanent chatting seats in homespace many months ago. Nice to see it being applied , even though it's only here during the event.
Iirc, the reason why there aren't any chat benches at home is to prevent a brand new player from having a bad experience with another player before they even get to play. It's also why there aren't any chat benches in isle that aren't seasonal
So I have a friend who's struggling to even log on to Sky. They have tried: uninstall reinstalling, turning phone off then back on, disconnecting and reconnecting their wifi, and contacting the guys in charge of Sky on Discord. Is there anything else they can do? They have an Android and the app is updated to the current model. Can anyone help them?
Is this in Live or Beta?
Live
For Live questions please ask in #questions-and-help as this channel is for beta testing
Your friend can also get in touch with TGC staff by DMing @hardy carbon or contacting customer support!
Thanks
Those were the days of pure chaos
damm, too late to have copied the text 
im not in beta but i wanted to ask, will there be future changes to the eden stages compared to the one in live? some areas are way too difficult due to the wind strength and i was wondering if the changes made it better (like the corridor)
You don't need to spoiler messages in beta chat
Check #beta-announcements for what we're currently testing. You might find what you're looking for.
i have read about the changes, but i have not heard of how impactful the changes were, so i was curious
Beta chat was much more chaotic than Gen Chat during tht time
melts
It's somewhere between the current live speed and the original speed. I haven't checked how much, just how it feels, and it felt a little too fast, like speedy gonzalez of 13.4 and older speed.
im not a fan of the wind strength at the corridor part, too much knockback that even walking doesnt reduce it, there isnt enough time to reach it during the time window with the krill and rocks...so i hope it will be of more reasonable difficulty
thank you for letting me know what you think tho 
Okay, I think that has to be the easiest OOB I've ever seen: when I was going through Valley (after completing the flying race) I noticed a weird black spot on the side of the wall as I was going into the temple, but I had already entered the temple, but when I tried to turn around to see if the texture anomaly was there, I accidentally just straight-up walked through the wall and went OOB. But then I walked a little bit farther and like...
You know how, if you go OOB in Valley, it's still got that red-sky look and it's got all that texture and stuff, but weird and blocky and everything's kinda disjointed? Yeah so I somehow fell beyond the normal OOB area of Valley, fell beneath the cloud layer of Sky, and I can now tell you that there's a giant ocean beneath Valley of Triumph. 
Oh yeah, also, when you swim in the-ocean-beneath-VoT, your character swims in 2x speed and the animation is hilarious.
Oh my gosh the longer I swim in this the more I keep speeding up because I'm definitely going faster than 2x speed and I'm a chibi at the moment and this is hilarious
I keep hearing people having trouble in that part, and I haven't yet. I've tried with chibi size, near smallest natural height, medium height and tallest height... No issues with the wind or that tunnel.
hello, may I ask? is the summer event on beta is already over? since i want to get the yellow umbrella but its gone
Well that's slightly eerie -- when I swam over to the giant floating coloseum asset beneath Valley, everything went dark and the sky turned red 
Do we always get stunned and stuck in place for a few seconds after getting hit in eden even after getting up from knockdown?
where did the 🕯 in sanctuary hill go? 🤔
yea thats the stun effect
I think it's always been like that. There is water underneath all realms oob. If you end up underneath Wasteland it drains your wing lights.
(cutely balds under the wasteland)
Yeah I mean that makes sense. I probably haven't discovered anything that people don't already know about, I'm way just behind the times and also easily amused.
The change in lighting is because the cut scene in Valley temple takes place in the dark/at night. So the temple oob is also dark.
I'm unsure if the wiki has the popular oobs, but funnily enough some of the new pins actually take you to these oob temples.
I've also been fairly terrible at OOBing in the past and I just recently got chibi mask, so the experience is rather novel to me. So yeah ignore me I'm just kinda, like, wigging out over a normal thing over here, carry on with one's beta-testy day 
Aw, oob-ing is fun! Go explore more. I'm sad one of my favourites in Prairie was removed, though. But there are many more still.
Also is anyone else having a problem where, instead of sitting down in the home shrine during the return-shrine cutscene, their character instead starts swimming around in the home shrine?
chibis have a tendency of doing that, but mine always eventually found the right spot to either sit...or just float there and still trigger the sequence to go back into a realm
Anyone experiencing black screen? 
I think 20% of beta testers experiencing black screen
no black screen on my end -- would you happen to be on an android?
edit: ah yup, just looked at the roles you've got on this server -- if you haven't already, a bug report with your device details is a good idea
Okay, Valley temple is just really glitching out, because not only was I able to walk through the wall once, I was able to go back and replicate it again (the entire right wall of the hallway into Valley Temple has stopped being a functional wall and you can walk through it now, and it's a big honking section of the wall), and, uh, now I'm stuck in the floor.
I think someone mentioned android 8.0 below are facing the black screen problem. Not sure.
No black screen here on my Pixel
Ah, yes the maze doesn't have any collision. It's been bug reported, but apparently not fixed yet. You might want to do that.
Uh... Okay, so, when I tried to jump out of the floor, I OOBed again and then it sent me hurtling downwards and then when it went "you're too OOB" it sent me up and then it sent me out into the coliseum area again, and then I immediately fell through the floor of the coliseum. 
Yeeeah, I'll, uh, go do that. The longer I spend in Valley temple, the more the physics are breaking.
the valley elders probably got bored and decided to prank us for their own amusement with the fake floors 
The valley pranksters. 
Yes. Android 8 beta testers have black screen bug so they cant see
...Goodness sakes the longer I poke around the Valley temple the more it breaks XD I've gotten stuck in the floor multiple times now, I've found multiple walls that can be walked through, I was able to clip through the statue, and I was able to see the previous-spirit glow circle through the wall XD
Does update problem for android is still ongoing?
I cant update my beta because theres no notif or update button on playstore ://
No wonder it was completely black when I opened it
I haven't opened beta in a few days only for it to be unplayable

HOW MANY TIMES AM I GOING TO GET STUCK IN THE FLOOR THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLACE TO GET STUCK IN THE FLOOR IN
I'M NOT EVEN TRYING TO GET STUCK IN THE FLOOR NOW AND I'M STILL GETTING STUCK 
But I wanna do seasonal cr right now before reset cuz 1hr left to reset
But black screen gives me 
...Okay, none of the floors in the side tunnels are working.
Yeah, collisions are off in the maze. 
Ghost maze
The crabs are escaping too, be free little ones! 
Oh hi StarDream. 
BAHAHAHAHHAHAH GUYS THE ELDER CUTSCENE IS SUPER BROKEN
Ayo WTK?! (What the Krill?!) 
No seriously go watch it, it's hilarious, your skykid is floating like 8 feet off the ground in the cutscene and like, there are some camera shots where it's just nothing happening except your floating legs in the top corner of the screen 
Oh so that's why I kept getting attacked by crabs! 
@spark lance the umbrella was always IAP; it was never going to be available for in-game candles
(sending messages here bc beta content)
Which elder?
Valley.

how much are the summee chairs
Can anyone be friend with me so I have someone to wave and done the mission 
I've spent like, the last 45 minutes just derping around the Valley temple room because it's so broken. Like, the whole "collision being off-kilter in the side mazes" problem isn't just limited to the side mazes. I lost count of how many times I fell through the floor or accidentally clipped out of bounds just by, like, existing in that room XD
There's price for chair in #beta-announcements
Valley elder cutscene is normal for me, it seems to vary for devices.
ya’ll ever think there’d be a season in eden someday? 😳
There are like 3 types of chairs, and all different prices. We're not encouraged to give exact prices, but the most an item cost in beta so far is 20 hearts (only 1 of the 3 types of chairs cost hearts. Other 2 cost candles). It might be less in Live. But it's a good estimate.
That's good to know, cause it was, uh, certainly noticable for me. Would be curious to know if anyone else got that glitch, or if it's just me having that cutscene problem?
Chair has reduced to 16 hearts as stated in #beta-announcements.
were you chibi? cuz i noticed with chibi, elder cutscenes are whack.
Oh yeah, I'm chibi.
Wait, that's been that way for me in the live for like 6 months now.
Uh... So, am I behind with the times on the whole prop items thing, because like... Is there supposed to be a "stone circle with a lantern in the center" item that, when placed in water, will float around homespace? Because I'm currently just sitting on a stone circle that's floating like an inner tube on a lazy river. We're doing slow laps around homespace.
...Well, that's good to know 
I hope they fix it soon. It keeps messing up the experience for my friends who join Sky.
I'll go file a bug report about the cutscene. I got some screenshots of it. Does it happen for every single elder, or just the Valley twins?
Also can I just say that I'm laughing hysterically at this stone circle thing? It's spinning around like a teacup on a children's ride and it's taking me on a tour of homespace. I don't think stone circles are supposed to do this.
I think that floating stone is supposed to move around the home space, and ye just the Valley twins glitch the skid for me.
Um this might be a stupid question but where’d the event spirit go? It went..poof…
Oh, okay cool. I mean, I won't complain, it's kinda fun, it's just also, uh, mildly confusing 
Good to know thanks!
...Okay, now that was a glitch. I got up from sitting on it and was standing on it while it was next to the dock, and then it suddenly warped to the other side of homespace.
Sounds like a server merge.
That is entirely possible. That would probably be more logical now that I think about it.
The "boat" is part of the new Summer Days event, btw.
Cool, thanks, yeah, I'm just a little dense is all, so it took me a bit on the uptake 
I think the event ended, and we'll have the days of summer light soon.
Yeah, but hopefully the sandcastle and boat stays throughout both. In Live, I mean.
Throughout the whole summer 
Oh I see, thank you!
Weird, I was helping Saki getting through the realms (blackscreen bug) and when I took a picture in wasteland the game closed/crashed 
I remember black screen from old Mac beta. Is it consistent to all realms and every area within them, or are some places visible?
Only the UI shows up for them, all the maps show up as a blackscreen
anyone knows where the summer guide went ? It disappeared for me 🥲
Summer guide left, they're the first phase of Summer, and it's over
Oh I see thank you ! So in the end there was just a hat and a chair correct ? no 20 hearts thing ?
No idea what was the 20 hearts null item, I think it was the umbrella being in the wrong place (was always intended to be iap)
ok thank you for answering ! Have a good day 😊
The null item was scrapped.
Where do I look out and get notifications for beta test invites?
Check #beta-faq and scroll up, there should be some reactions to a post in the how to get into beta section. React to it to get the role to be notified.
Good to appear the traveling spirit will not appear
What time will the days of summer lights gonna come tgc said “8 July”and it’s already passed 8 July what is going on?
They probably either mischeduled it, or its just not ready yet
Who knows www
I really want the lantern so bad 😦
We're on intermission period for this Summer Event
While piggyback with a friend (I’m the driver) I cannot offer hand to a second friend ,is this intentional?
I dont think so, better to report it as a bug.
It would be awful if it was intentional
so i hope it’s not.
Yeah, it'll be horrible for people playing in groups and want to piggyback. Hope that never comes to live. 
Didn't the summer lights event happen in September last year?
It did why?
guys, why my sky after update Everything is black, i can't see anything
Simply curious
Oh I thought you had some specific thing you were curious about regarding the date

Hh the state beta's in rn 💀.
I hope this doesn't make it to live.
I just noticed the sand pipe actually can be used to play Mario with Krill--
No one:
Me: upload 5 Beta Testing videos on YouTube
did they adjust the price of the umbrella yet or is it also still 20? 
Still 20$
No idea. It’s not in beta anymore.
Just completed 7th Quest and I gotta say, 6th Quest had more impact to it than what it was with 7th.
7th quest feels like it's missing some cutscenes. I agree, 6th definitely feels more impactful than 7th.
to be fair we never had finished final quests for beta most of the time
It does feel like it will have some things to be added once it is available on Live
Just ready seasons chat saying how they wouldn't want an eden based season.... At least this one is only one quest right?
yes, i saw it too... WHY is it in eden again
Well I guess he passes on in the story...so they had to find a sky way to tie that in?
Oh well off to test beta eden crashes
anything is possible 
although just because its eden doesn't mean you have to have seasonal area beyond the door
Imagine reliving seasonal spirits in rock rain

Makes me wonder, where will be next season take place
Thanks
Makes me wonder if they're gonna stick with the "new area in a realm for a new season"
Since now every realm has an additional seasonal area I'm curious if they'll just keep adding more and more or if they're gonna do something else entirely
If they're gonna stick with it for a long time I'm afraid that new players won't be able to discern from which area is seasonal and which is part of the basic game
Btw guys if i placed the closet from assembly as a shield from the rain rocks, will it save me ? Can't ender eden at all
The fact they're making us commit rebirth for the final quest 💀
I imagine, it could be that the old system is being used again. Like Rhythm and before. The seasonal spirits were spread to various corners of the realm. Maybe some additional backstory after releasing them...
Welp, the additional seasonal spirits are enough to make mothlings confused right now tho 😂
At least you need to go through Eden to make those appear but I get what you mean
Sky is getting too crowded imo
I thought the 7th quest was sweet because it reinforces what he said in the 6th one (where he says it may look like he is suffering, but do not remember him like that). That being said, it would have made more of an impact to see him fly up to the stars with the spirits you save in Eden, continuing the thought that when you look at the stars, they will be laughing and they will all be your friends 
Just one thought
(that I also posted in feedback :3)
THERE ARE GOLDEN SKIDS HIDDEN IN OOB AREA THAT IS EXTREMELY HARD TO REACH..... AND YET WE MANAGED TO STILL FIND IT......
How do people find these Easter eggs... Like are they randomly oobing in the area and deciding to go explore every inch of it's possible areas EVEN BEHIND WIND WALLS???
No wonder, but definitely a witchcraft... I hope it wont be removed 😏
HOLD ON..... THEY'RE THE 4 ANGELS OF APOCALYPSE.... THE END OF SKY IS COMING

||THIS IS A JOKE||
With the beta android crashing, beta updates is my fave channel 😞
I got a lot crash on Android 11, even in live. It just crash in nowhere. Idk what cause the crash
I didn't even having single crash
When on my ColorOs 11( Android Version Update) the freeze just disappear
My software is upto date and I am Android 11 :(
Have red rocks always shattered 4+ WL instantly in PNR?
I thought they only shatter 1 at a time
Ok I put it in feedback but maybe it's a bug
goes the same place eventually ig
Guess so, gl with the feedback and report
Sometimes you lose 2
i lost 4 or 5 initially at endless rock rain, then 3s, then 2s, then 1 by 1 near the end 👀
Oh yeah now that you mention…but i never lost 4 at once to a red rock before tho, not quite sure
I lose like 1 or 2 at once
I think its pretty new, i noticed it in the first build they talked about slow walk being intentional (2-3 builds ago)
Hello does the lantern will be an iap again in days of summer?
Check and scroll up a bit on #beta-announcements
Uhh, is there something about a sunflower accessory in beta rn? I saw someone wear one on their head on ig but i haven't seen anyone else post about it
It's a hacked item,the sunflower never appeared on beta
I think it was the item that was scrapped, either way it’s hacked
@hardy carbon Contact thathelpbot and send them a screenshot or in case a YT video, a link
They usually easy to takedown youtube content talk about Sky hacked content
Fi frog facts.
Frogs show no mercy
Is the summer event already ended? Sice few days i dont see the spirit… 🙈
Can someone tell me where in valley I can find the little prince for the quest?
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
He is at hermit valley's sunset rock
Thx. Already found him a minute before you responded xD
I think the "..." button when viewing the message boat has become harder to press. Just my opinion after using it.
Is it my imagination?
I'm wondering if I should report it as feedback or a bug.
I've experienced that as well
shrine note buttons are harder to press as well
Can anyone mind telling me how to get the beta?
Thanks
Can we have pets
You don't need to announce it here. If you can't light them up, just ignore them.
Hope we could test a crab hat in beta someday

All ts are random, even in beta
There is no crab hat. I think they meant it as a future item. 😉
I thought they meant crab call's hat
i think they mean they want a crab hat added to the game 
The real question: should it be an upside-down crab or a rightside-up one on your head? 
Rightside-up normally, but when you lose your light it gets flipped upside down too 
It should be a pin. Like the one from 😎 hat
But I want to wear an upside down crab on my head. 
Crab Hair Accessory 👀 aight heads to #wishlist-and-ideas-archived 
Hey guys
I am a non beta tester.
Is it true they fixed the clipping issues in outfits

Which clipping issues? I still clip through the floor in Valley maze.
The clipping in some outfits
the placements of a lot of hair accessories were changed, I wouldn't call it fixing all clipping issues though
Oh OK, atleast there is hope for them to fix the rest of clipping issues (the sword in the sword pants clips alot)
Let's not forget the glaring bug being in casual stance and holding a friend's hand with your right hand and your cape clipping through it... Been there for awhile...
does the days of summer event have a release date for live yet?
Anything regarding Live will be announced in #news, beta testers have no early info on that- we just test stuff!
thanks

Is testing for the beta summer event over? I can’t find the spirit 
Days of Summer was only in testing for 5 days, now we're in an 'intermission' before Summer Lights event starts.
Anyone know where the prince is in Hermit Valley, I can't seem to find him
I ate it 

Can we get this pinned?
So when people ask for dates we say check the pins. They go check them expecting to find the exact dates and boom. Beaned.
Hello everyone, but how to get into the beta I've been sick for a long time, but I don't know how.
#beta-faq You have to wait until an invite wave. In the FAQ, it tells you how to get notified when an invite wave happens.
there are periods during the year where they send limited invitations for people to enter the beta, there is no other way to get in.
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
i- candle cake in sanctuary is gone 
I had trouble finding him too— fly toward the sun and you’ll find him on a peak!
it moved, check near timid bookworm
Thank you 
I live to see the day Ktjn is not online 
Wanna know something about an online friend that everyone knows
If you set DND and turn off battery optimization for Discord on mobile, you appear online in DND indefinetely.
If they died you wouldnt know cause you arent related to them irl 
anyways, anniversary event vs 7 hearts
7 hearts r gonna win (hopefully)
Anniversary event no longer in beta
When was the next #beta-announcements that they'll fix the black screen bug? I wanna set free from darkness.
my third eye is telling me we are about to be pinged if you know what i mean 
ALEXA PLS PING!!
hey everyone! where did they move the summer girlie with the hat? 
It's done. Cuz it's 5 days testing
I kept misreading days of summer and days of summer lights as the same event.
anyways next thing we gonna be testing according to #beta-updates is the days of summer lights so days of summer has concluded days ago.
I think they are meant to be kind of similar events, but it's more like a phase one and phase two. The summer guide is only around for the first phase though, so yeah it's gone now
True
I am now saying good morning to beta update channel, silently 😅 #whenbetacrashhappens
So i just updated my phone's software to android 11 and now beta crashes whenever i enter Eden. Gonna check if it's true for the other realms (after work). For science!
yeah, there are some issues specifically with samsungs this build and the last one. have fun crashing!
Seems to be the case D: i better prepare my notes haha!
if you crash when entering eden, you'd most likely crash when exiting social spaces from any realm 
Hello. May i ask if there is a sunflower hair accessory? 
There is no sunflower hair accessory so far
I see. thank you for answering 
TGC TAKE NOTES
Tbh I wish there was a flower accessory for f2p kiddos, but oh well. Hopefully we get something similar as new seasons progress
Still iap/event guide missing?
Hello. Just wanna ask if the wind in Eye of Eden (before WL tunnel) has been set stronger? I just ran there with my tallest skykid in live and chibi mask in beta, I think the wind there in both version were too strong that I could barely move... tallest one was marching on the spot while chibi one would be blown away directly
I'm crashing everywhere! Dx (already submitted it) but it's making the gaming experience so difficult!
Is someone else having that problem? I crash in sanctuary valley, and wasteland. :(
Yes, eden has been made significantly more difficult with the wind and the endless rock rain's slow movement.
@slim kayak I see. I will try not to lose 10+ WL before making my way into the tunnel
Thank you for answering.
#beta-screenshots-videos message - Beta movement in last rock section up to tunnel. near smallest resize height.
#eden-spoilers message - Live last run to tunnel. medium tall height.
I haven't had much issues if I don't jump and zig-zag slightly.
My last trip, before this latest update, was ok. Still a bit of resistance up that last slope, but not almost impossible as it is in Live.
Yeshh same lol 😅
Most of android 8 devices have black screen bug. I am also one of the person with this bug. TGC please work on it. Hope this will be resolved 😭😭
did anyone notice they got rid of the cake in sanctuary? at the very top of the mountain
It relocated near the timid bookworm spirit now :)
thank you ! 
i did the same a week ago too and since then the waterfalls in sanctuary and in vault have been super glitchy on both live and beta. do you have the same issue too? heres the link to the vids i posted
#bug-reports-android message
Oooh I'm gonna watch out for those too. I've already seen slightly pixelated waterfalls in live. What I'm worried about is that I'll just crash everywhere 
Not gonna lie, i know those falls are broken but they also look like gemstones
i crash a lot in sanctuary too in live. especially near the geyser. and a lot of frame drops at the beginning of the valley races. this is all in live. havent had a chance to check in beta cuz i crash before i get there 
Welp! I think i know what to expect in later's beta
Question 🙋🏻♀️: Would u buy the summer umbrella with current price?
Hugs 😭 lets keep our fingers crossed 🤞
Some said it had the same quality as the ultimate umbrella gift in the season of lightseekers but I am not convinced so I wont buy it 😞
Odd, recent changes to waterfalls fixed the texture issue I had before on Android: #beta-screenshots-videos message
It has the sound effects from Lightseekers Ult is probably what that person meant. It’s also large and is obviously an umbrella so it has the rain blocking like the other Umbrellas. The Laidback Pioneer’s Umbrella doesn’t have the sound effect and it just feels so small. I’m buying it myself because I like it and have the means to purchase it.
Yesh.. if not we won't be able to complete the quest and get the cape 🥺😭
That is very true :( the sad premonition, i hope not huhu it will be so long to wait in live to experience it *sigh
Just the sound when u open and close it. I tested in the forest, I felt it easily get closed, even comparing to the one from spirit
It’s the same price as Lantern and Bloom Tea Set which are both also props. The $20 price tag is expected. I think the umbrella is at least worth it. As opposed to lantern, but whatever.
I hope tgc will compensate us😅
Good for you I guess 😅 but even if the sound looks cute aesthetically its ordinary (in my eyes) and I already have the umbrella for the spirit... though I have purchased ordinary looking capes but its redeeming point will be its effects... hope you all enjoy it 😊
Between the umbrella and lantern, I would settle for the lantern ✌
Well personally I don’t think it worths it. The look of the umbrella is so so. I won’t buy it even I can afford it
ok but why they didn’t change the back prop of the birthday stand like why is it still assembly bag 😭
That sucks 😭 they should have changed the design at least :( its why I am not enthusiastic buying it but since its not expensive I will collect it
Meh, an items quality is determined by those of us who buy them. I personally feel the umbrella is worth it. I also have the other umbrella. I dislike the Laidback Pioneer’s umbrella in comparison.
I’m buying both, but Lantern is by far less valuable in terms of impact on the gameplay as it’s almost completely pointless for gameplay. At least it’s cute aesthetically so that is why I’m buying both.
I have a feeling that any prop that's in a backpack is meant to be used for shared spaces. They share the assembly logo since shared spaces are linked to the season
Wow 😲 enjoy your purchases 😊
yeah and to think that we already have a lot of props that comes with the assembly bag pls maybe a blue bday tgc bag would be cool sadly no one suggested in on feedback 😭😭😭 too late
It’s not to late. Anything can change. The props were out in Live Assembly as a bag on your back before they got their revamp to be props in place of the bag.
maybe make it like the sticks and the colors of the triangle shapes or sumn 
Just keep up with feedback and maybe encourage others to send feedback about it as well.
Besides, the assembly logo is for the season of assembly, it is misleading to use that logo for all props, they can settle for a tgc-logo-like design for all props outside of season 🤷♀️ maybe?
Did the white backpack iOS bug made to live version?
So will it come on 13 July or when
Question, is the hair clipping issue also fixed for jellyfish hair?
Nope but the crabs with black hat did
Ikr?
how could I download the beta testing in IOS
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
how to download the test version
You need to wait for invite waves. Read more about it in #beta-faq
guys, when beta version update?, i still can't play because the black screen
Report it as a bug to let devs know your device is also affected
Has there been enough backlash that Eden has been taken back to how it was? Yesterday, in the second red rain stage I was able to do some jumping and was going at the walking speed instead of crawling like you do before turning into a statue.
#beta-screenshots-videos message
There was no backlash. Players reported as a bug and left feedbacks on Discord and TGC fixed it
More to read in #beta-announcements
The crawling was intentional but as a bug it affected more areas than intended.
Actually I'm liking the lantern a lot more than the umbrella just for disco lighting purposes. Of course, to each and their own. 
Edit : I forgot to turn off the ping. Very sorry 
I think the lantern is great for OOBs and other dark places, and the umbrella takes care of a whole realm. They're useful in their own ways
Agree , both are fancy in their own ways.
When will the lantern be available?
It should be now but I don't see it
We’re in the brief intermission, it hasn’t started yet
I thought it will be available on July 8th, but 👌
Hi
Does anyone else find the sunhat really cute with the bow at the end? My trip on sanctuary islands is going to be really fun 🌞🌊
Sunhat is very cute yes, can’t wait to have it in live 
Me too! I love it! Perfect for a cottagecore outfit in sky!
hang on a minute, if the krills in beta also have birthday hats right now...is anyone on the 6th LPP quest? i wonder if that one is also wearing it 
Krills are celebrating the sky anniversary,dude.
So should jellyfish,mantas,butterflies,whales.. 😠 Not only dark creatures
if that quest krill is wearing it, this might be the only chance for anyone to get images or footage of that cutscene with a krill wearing a birthday hat, because the anniversary event is going to end in live before we get to that quest most likely
time to see quest krill with a birthday hat 
drat, doesn't look like it's wearing one when chibi falling underneath that map to check after the quest is already done -- it's quite far away though, so i'm not sure if i'm just not seeing it
first wasteland krill was definitely wearing one though, so the hats are active in beta right now
are the battlefield krill festive?
Does hat work differently on every hairstyle now in beta? Like beret on the popcorn hair, does it still drown in the hair?
not anymore
on second thoughts, i think that krill might actually be wearing one right now -- you really can't get close with the wind, but there seems to be something shiny on it
I hope we can actually see 6th quest krill with a party hat
I'm expecting an update today 
Mmhm, you can actually see them with a party hat(I just did the last quest like a while ago and oh boiii, I was in deep shock to see a krill with a party hat) and I thought I was seeing things
Still no update my sisters screen is still black she's jealous at me since I'm on iOS and she's on Android.
Krill wearing party hat was not in beta, what a surprise 
Wait is there a quality drop with this new build on Android, anyone noticed?
I just finished the last quest of the season i'm not crying you are 
I'm unable to go eden 😭😭😭
Whenever I enter the game crashed,and it's happening when realms /area changed to
I think you should report it as a bug
Hence I am unable to do candle run and lacks candle
Maybe I think,coz I already complained and support team said to report my issues here
But shouldn't you go in #beta-bugs-ios / #beta-bugs-android ?-
Ok
aaaaa its so sad 
Gah, it is, very much :c
The intro music missing is intentional or not?
I didn't cry for 2 hours while listening gone and summer time sadness nooo 
It's been few days already I'm trying to get the last seasonal candles I need , but the game keeps crashing 😭😭 Idw miss it
guys did the krills have a hat in beta during the anniversary
No? I don’t ever remember them having on any during testing, it’s now that they appeared
Today i was cr in Golden wasteland and eden and saw them
Yes, but when we tested the event awhile back, there was none
I don’t think that matters, I misinterpreted the question
Maybe they decided to put It on from now on idk
Might be a scheduling error 🤔
We tested Anniversary event probably a month ago and krills didn't have hat on them, right?
Yea
Hence, answer to this question is no and yes.
No, they didn't have hat during testing of Anniversary.
Yes, they have hat on during the anniversary.
I think now that they putted the hats we need to check It they don't lag for the live version
@north veldt And because it’s always have been planned to be an IAP, there’s a post regarding it in #beta-announcements
Where did the days of summer guide go? Did I miss the event?
I'm new to discord
Event concluded, yes
Here’s a link: #beta-announcements message
It’ll take you to the post I mentioned
Thank
yeah thats what i thought as well, great surprise tho
what is the 7th quest for le petit prince
Is everything to do with The Little Prince season going to permanently disappear after the season is over? What about the three star children in that space?
@shrewd needle Draw me a crab! 
Eden
I doubt it tbh. Tgc said the spirits will return, so the area should also remain, including the winged lights, since it's their original design, isn't it?

We'd definitely remember it if they did
WAIT TGC STILL DIDNT FIX THE CRASHING WHEN YOU TRY TO ENTER IN EDEN

They should fix the umbrella closing when you pull out your candle
If they don't many people won't buy the beach umbrella
I saw a video where the beret worked on any hair... but it doesn't seem to be working in live. Will this be a later update?
Yeah, that's still being tested in beta. Hopefully that fix comes soon!

many people would still but the umbrella even if it has this issue, it's such a pain
Closing the umbrella whenever you pull out the candle has always been in-game, I’m not certain if that will change since the intention is to share the umbrella with a friend while they take care of burning/lighting
I don't think spirits or cosmetics are going away (the only exceptions being The Little Prince set/ultimate gifts/IAPs) because TGC didn't directly copy the characters, they were inspired by them. This should also apply to the seasonal area as well. But keep in mind I have absolutely zero information, so this may be incorrect
It is only with the heart that one can see rightly
Yeah, it would be pretty overpowered if you can burn and/or light while holding an umbrella open
44 candles
Please note prices are subject to change on live release and no need to spoiler tag in this topic
Beta testers don't know dates ahead of time, only in game items
Beta testers are just players like you. All official will be listed in #news
Don't "bruh" strangers and It was a kind reminder to spare more just in case
Beta testers are encouraged to inform fellow players here that everything in Beta is subject to change, so maybe see it as an act of kindness. You won't know how much you need to save until it's announced in #news
Msorry not going to ask anymore anything in this server
It's still okay to ask as long as it follows the rules of the channel and server. And if it's a beta-related inquiry (e.g. Prices, etc) , always bear in mind that those prices aren't always set in stone as they may or may not change once released in Live.
The schedule of events, seasons or other upcoming features and items in the Live version will always be announced in #news. Beta testers are regular players that test what is made available on the Beta version, but we don't know when (or if) those will brought to Live 
!omgomgwhen 
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
Still no event guide, iap… Is anyone can see event guide?
You still can have both out at once with some menu trickery, but I personally find it unnecessary
The event concluded a couple of days ago, the guide & IAP are not missing
What
Really? I didn't know that, but yeah, kinda unnecessary since Hidden Forest has a lot of recharge spots
No but i cant see them since last week
Iirc, guide (& Summer IAP's too I guess) left on Monday Reset
Event ended on the 7th/8th, were they missing before then?
before the guide having a new haircut so maybe 6 or 7 oh wait its right after they got a new haircut
The new haircut didn’t last a day if I recall, then departed shortly after since it was only being tested for 5 days
They got a new haircut and went on a holiday ✨
Still not here yet, we’re currently in the “brief intermission” if I’m correct
Thanks for the command mirian 
Does anyone have a screenshot of the new instrument UI for controllers?
#beta-screenshots-videos message
I'm definitely reporting this, literally just turned sound back on in beta and this happens 
Had that happen yesterday too, wanted to change my call to spirit manta and got crab call instead, I was quite bewildered
Also oops ping sorry! 
Pings are fine dw!
I don't understand what's wrong
I'm pressing crab call, not jelly call. I don't have jelly call in beta
Yes, the sound is crab call.
No? It's jelly
is it? oh...both are annoying, so I never use them 
The evil has been defeated
Finally
Crab ate the jellyfish
So you decided to ban crab call after making it public....
Crab call is my favorite call why 
Bird call is still lurking 
Bruh i like cosmic manta call
I like silence 😌
I prefer the old whale call.
youre just a hater

But then again, what's stopping you from getting crab call...er, jelly call and see if they change back? 😉
Time to go deep, maybe devs are adding krill call that's why it's bugged 😳
Oh yeah 
I still can't get fox bands use of crab call for Aaeeoo out my head...so disappointing when you can't sing along with calls outside orbit
thats not how it works 
I wonder what would krill call would sound like
Brb gonna speedrun to Sanc and relive Jelly /hj
You are with skybot aren't you 
idk 
is it all calls or just crab call?
reminds me of one update where as soon as you logged in you would have the eden stance until you changed to any other stance
👀
you know, when youre in eden and your skykid looks like theyre getting blown away by the wind
Oh, the bellyache 
It's fixed!
eden stance???? eden here i come with my 16 wl
nevermind i crashed the second i entered the second gates
i luauged way harder than I should've
Is it just me or are the anniversary cosmetics and cakes a bit cheaper than they were in beta? I can't remember if they were these prices or if I'm just going nuts 😅
Ok so why have they taken the ability to share notes played to teach other players lit or unlit...?
it's usually much safer to assume something is a bug instead of ascribing some sort of malicious intent on TGC's part 
Oops caught red handed.... I'll report it as it bug...(to be fair it was more exasperation rather ascribing some one sat in TGC cackling with evil laughter after taking shared musical notes away)
Fairly certain the prices were the same in beta.
Hello, Ktjn. Your trenchcoat has got bigger by many, many sizes 😅
Ktjn hello 

The tree originally costed 30 so it hasn’t changed.
I bought everything so quickly that for some odd reason I was under the impression that it was about 100 counting the candles required for hearts for the beret 😂
I counted when I bought them on Beta so I knew I’d have enough on live. I’m 💯 positive it cost 30 candles to buy up the tree to the prop and buy the prop too. The hat…I think it was always 3 Hearts? Let me check. Haha, yeah so apparently it didn’t really change. It’s obviously more if you want the other spells, but I never use mine as is so I don’t buy more than I need to.
It's seems all TGC staff- Erm... Krill in the game have party hats. Nothing more festive than a black figure wearing a bright yellow cone hat with a puff ball on top.
Do we know if beta having the krill hats is intended or scheduling error from our anniversary testing?
Well the krill under the office has a party hat in live so..it can't be a bug completely
Where is the little prince in The Valley of triumph it’s hermit valley right?
I ate it 
Fly towards the sun in hermit’s valley
Thank you
I guess until confirmed, I will have my head cannon that it was a scheduling oopsie.
I think you misunderstood the question. Live is supposed to have the party hat krill. The anniversary is on schedule in live. Beta's anniversary testing ended last month. Why party hats now?
Evidently...my bad
intentional, we didn't want to ruin the surprise by having them during the beta testing portion of this year's anniversary content.
it was a great surprise
now to take more rare screenshots of the prince with the anniversary krill
is anyone planning to buy the summer event umbrella? I love it so much, but it's real money...
oop- hi Voi...
theres sort of been a split opinion about it, some people have said theyll buy it for the sound affects and for how big it is, some have said they already have the umbrella from the spirit and wont get this one. some outright said it was too expensive.
personally i wont buy it because at first i thought it would be placeable as a prop on the ground (i believe that it was also removed from home space later because it was “misleading”) which i thought was nice (imagine being able to put it down in forest and have your friends sit underneath it without having to hold it) and i too already have an umbrella. theyre not very useful since they close so easily and doing the candle trick is too time consuming. 
but you did with the blogpost
still good surprise tho
Did the lore channel theorise why krills have party hats??!?🤔 😂 Brb
no, we don spend our precious brain cells on that type of stuff /s
I thought the image in the blog post was just a quick photoshop edit or something, I wasn't expecting it to be in the game. So it was still a neat surprise 
I'm kinda confused on #beta-announcements, Days of Summer Lights already started? As stated, it said "Starts at July 8th"
It didn't start (no IAP no spell) despite of that announcement, maybe we're still in the "intermission" after days of summer
Does anybody else's game crash whenever go to the hidden Forest it starts to lag really bad on that map maybe it's just only me
Many people crash at sanctuary forest eden. Don't forget to bug report
@dusty berry
Please tell me that someone else is suffering the closes in application when trying to enter the portal of Eden. I could not do the last mission of the little prince yet. (My english is bad, I apologize for that)
Thank you! 😯 My messages are slow 
A lot of people can't enter Eden and exit to any social spaces, myself included
we're aware, the team is working on fixes. we'll likely have a new build in the next day or two.
Wow thank you for the good news 🙂
I hope the crash fixes don't break the graphical fixes to ascent lights and waterfalls on Android. Those fixes were very nice. 
oh yeah, the graphics are back to being super pretty. no more pixelated clouds or stars
Rip, beta still crash and don't let me cr anymore or do quest
And I don't I would done the last quest at a good moment, there is no more enough time
Hope tgc can this for to not this happen in live too like piggy back glitch
I hope that they fix the blackscreen bug so I can escape from blindness in beta app really sooner. 
Android get alot of problems now
I am sure it would be fixed also. My knowledge on their engine is nil, but HAL stuff like Vulkan is pretty immense, and with an educated guess, I would assume it is a newer Vulkan renderer call that is causing the issue. It could be a number of things they changed, but I am sure they know what caused it after internal dev builds and testing to get it working properly again for older versions of Vulkan. (Android 8 has 1.0.x while A11 has 1.1.128, so big difference in what calls are supported)
Well, my phone still crashing when i reach sanctuary island 
I love hearing people explain about the issues surrounding various bugs with technical words, despite not having concrete knowledge to said stuff. Other than being a place to catch bugs, Beta often becomes a small outlet to learn facts 
Some models of black screen will not be resolved?
The issue is still being worked on, I have no info about it at this time.
until a fix is identified and implemented, I cannot make promises or provide an exact timeline on when a bug will be resolved.
tapping into my third eye and reflexes to do candle run in pitch black darkness /j
would make a great gdq run candidate 
All right, thank you.
The beta season ends in 4 days but update will come in 2 to 3 days, its gonna be close folks 🤞
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
Hii, I've been wondering since it was released but will the anniversary flaglets bag really stay in the assembly design? The black and white design before was just a bug?
Yes the black/white was bug
the fact that props that have 0 ties with season of assembly appear as assembly back pack is not sitting well with me :
Shared Spaces was introduced with Season of Assembly, so the vast majority of prop items of that nature will have the blue backpack with the
symbol on it.
Oh crab, I better have to seasonal wax run immediately ||Also I forgot to relieve all Little Prince spirits
||
I get the reasoning, but for people who start playing later, they'll just know the shared spaces feature as a random thing that shows up in some places. They may not understand the Assembly connection unless they look it up or ask about it from other players. So I'm not really sure how much having the Assembly symbol on those items will really help people understand that that's what they're for (if that's part of the intention)
too many decors too little backpacks 
If all shared spaces locked before finishing assembly quests i think they will get it somehow🤔
as times goes on, fewer people will associate
with the season, but will easily recognize the symbol as a Shared Spaces item.
....yes......but.........is that the goal? 
since seasons don't repeat? yes
Ohh, I get it now. Thank you!
meh... i didnt like that season anyways
Oh like what happened with
and med spots?
hold on.....you have a point there 
I thought more people have done that connection 
that's a very apt comparison.
I learn a new word today, apt. 
Hi people with beta!
Just wondering if there are any upcoming events or purchases that include items that function like the chat table
I bet Ktjn is the person with the "english gal" bio on tgc's website
I thought I saw something in a video but I can't remember enough to work out if it was beta, switch, past season content, etc
Well so far there's no new prop with chat feature (That i know of)
Correction:the beach chairs-
Didn't get to obtain them, so I wasn't aware about that, my apologies
lawn chair?
Some of the beach chairs have a chat function
can you replay past seasonal quests yet? does it replay the first cutscenes (e.g. prerestoration of ark) or just the final cutscenes (enchantment guide receiving the coloured light)
it replays the cutscenes only,not the quests
The eye of eden quest I'd a little confusing
Do I just go through eden like normal or do I have to find the prince?
@ancient ermine Draw me a manta! 
it is quite confusing till the very last second, you just do a normal eden run and after reaching orbit and recollecting ur wingbuffs u meet prince right in front of the gates
Oh, got it, so you just go through like normally then
You do have to give the prince a star on your way through
He will be one of the statues
do i? cuz i definetly dont remember even noticing his statue at all, i probably missed his statue
Do you have to find which statue he is?
It’s pretty hard to miss. Near the arches
Is he at the beginning?
In between two others
i guess you do but i didnt even bother , maybe i was lucky to save him on the way but i didnt even try to lol
you'll see a cutscene where he dies
I don't remember where he was
He is easy to see too because he is reaching up toward the sky
Well I gotta just hope I got him because I kept getting hit so I'm out of WL 
honestly it would be better if you dont get him at all
that way we can test if its mandatory to save him
I'm gonna be so upset if I have to do that again tho
That’s true
we can leave him in the pit of hell to suffer for the rest of his life for what he did to Rose 
I don't believe I found him
And since I went through eden yesterday most of the children are already well
You knoe
When you enter the red rain area, a cutscene will play, so you can see where it is. In reality, however, I was one of those who couldn't identify the Little Prince statue.
No cut scene played for me
the prince's statue is little bit bigger and have different posture so you will recognize it very easily
Gonna have to do this again won't I?
maybe u should
I still have to go through eden on live again too
wait cutscene didnt played in entrance of rain area?
Nope
you did get the quest from seasonal guide?
yep cause I got a cut scene when I first entered the place of no retuen
maybe
try again maybe help??
Maybe I didn't go far enough into the red rain Area to trigger it
I'll try again if it didn't count
The answer is no, you don't need to light his statue to save him it seems
Back read a bit due to being away, but could that be the reason the scarf is the "pendant" for the season since the symbol got stolen in the name of Shared Spaces? I still wear my Enchantment pendant as a mark of when I started playing, seems the Assembly moths will not have a similar identity if their seasonal pendant/scarf is overshadowed by the backpacks.
Do you guys think the Prince outfit will be 200 candles in live?
It's in the patch notes, so it will be 200 candles, unless a change occurs and is said in #news
Ooh got it
has summer lights come yet?
How long has that new cake in sanc been there? haven't been in a while and was surprised to see it :0
wait jk it was just moved from the top of the mt where prince quest is 😔
The scarf itself is striking enough since it's way different from other pendants, though I can say that the symbol might somehow be interpreted into shared space as time goes on. Might be the same as someone wearing
pendant and a moth will ask "why are you wearing the med spot symbol?"
Not that there's anything else assembly could offer
as far as i know, the team really wanted the pendant to resonate with the scout theme of the season. It's good to have a little creative freedom now and again 
We'll take a page from Bob Ross and call the coincidence a happy accident, then.
At least the scarf stands out compared to a symbol being used for shared spaces so the pendant doesn't lose the season's meaning.
things don't have to be mutually exclusive. the boat in home is heavily themed off the enchantment season, since it's an extension of the spell shop you unlock by completing the enchantment season story quests.
I will wear that bookshelf in live until the end of time... Or I need to use a prop somewhere.
Oh, I just meant the Scarf would have more significance to "this is the AP pendant for Assembly" more than a pendant's symbol that will be on anyone's back who runs around wearing a Shared Space prop.
Kjin, how are things working for the Little Prince season in the future? There has been debate as to whether that space and the spirits would remain as they have since Dreams.
I would assume the space and spirits would stay, but maybe the cutscenes would be removed if IP holder requests it.
Wouldn't that cut the spirits, then? They have the prince in their cutscenes.
Not really. There are creative ways of removing an IP you don't have rights to display anymore.
'to keep the meditation spot close to my heart'
You are the meditation spot 
I actually have a picture of you standing afk holding that bookshelf

Tagged u in #beta-screenshots-videos 
How about the prince-focused seasonal quest series? All of that is pivotal on the prince.
The spirits themselves, and their outfit items were modeled in a way that do not require being replaced or permanently removed after the season concludes. The prince himself will go away and be replaced with a sky-themed spirit. IAPs and all other copyrighted imagery from the book are available for a limited duration to comply with the contract. i have not been given any further details i'm able to share at this time.
Is that a live image in beta screenshots?
I don't have Rally's pants in beta... It might be an artifact of me exiting the game on switch and it being "idle" instead of closed.
Walmart sky version of prince

How about the season's name and the asteroid area? Will those also be changed/deleted?
Thanks, Ktjn. There has been so much arguing going on with beta and live friends that having some facts given is a relief.
Removing the Asteroid Area would make the Asteroid Jacket useless, wouldn't it?
It would. But it contains copyrighted scenes (the actual 6 spirits from books illustrations)
I understand that but one of the main reason people would buy that cape is knowing that it takes you to another secret area.
I don't think that area would be removed since you need the IAP or the limited time spells to access it.
I really wish TGC had stayed with original ideas instead of getting permission to use copyrighted material. That makes it so players who join after the season won't get the full experience of what came before.
Well to be fair season of the little prince became reality because people wished for in in wishlist and ideas last year.
Saw the post with my very own eyes
Imagine if those spells "expired" after the season ends...
I loved Dreams and like redoing the final cutscene skating with the child.
DELET DIS
DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS :pSquint:
If the replacement model is rallying thrillseeker again

It would probably break too many spells due to how spells are coded in Sky currently, so you don't have to worry.
DO IT AT LEAST IN BETA KTJN
DO IT FOR THE MEMES!!!!!
Do people not get it about copyrights? I am very aware of that because of having a career in the music industry.
Hmm, I wonder who will replace the little prince once the season ends 
the little princess
If that's the case, I vote hide and seek pioneer 
A moth
Well Lpp will enter public domain soon enough so.....
If y'all REALLY wish for something y'all better put it in wishlist now so you at least get it next year.
#underwaterseason
Luca season /j

KTJN YOU MUST....... YOU MUST PUT RALLY AS THE NEW LITTLE PRINCE FOR AT LEAST 1 BUILD..... THE MEMES....
That would sour the current relationship with an IP holder and possibly cause issues if they want a collab in the future with another IP holder... Not just for Sky, but in the future with any other franchise TGC would expand to.
I just realised
Ignis earlier: whi is da rainbow guide the thrilseeker?
Ignis now: rally is everything and everyone
Rallying Thrillseeker is all the guides
Sorry
It's only available after completing all seasonal quests during the season
All the memes just burned down in front of my eyes 
if i were the designer doing the swaps, perhaps, just for the memes. alas, that's a bit of above my skillset right now.
I mean... I hope Sky is still around in 2045....
I thought it's 2077 jk lol
Oh, yeah... France Copyright is 90 years after author's death, no? Since Expury passed in 1944, wouldn't that make it 2034 or is there another country that's longer?
but Uzephi is correct, breaching trust would have rippling consequences for any future TGC business, but even if that weren't a looming concern. Respecting intellectual property in general is the right thing to do, art has enough problems with theft, why add to the problem.
70+30 for creators who died fighting for their country. also his widow renewed the copyright some time in the 70s, if memory serves.
international intellectual property/copyright laws are extremely complicated and diverse from country to country.
Oh, the plus 30, then. He did die serving his country. (at least that's what my Google-Fu found)
#office_npc_as_next_prince
that would be funny
honestly, im expecting it to be a whole new spirit. wonder what they'll look like
these changes won't go into effect til some time after 15.0, long after the season ends, and those details are still under development. everything still needs final approval from the copyright holder.
Well... Underwater season isn't copyrighted by anyone is it?
hint hint
manifesting a lore season after this one 🕯
Atlantis... And they renewed the copyright. 
Me too ;-; I miss sky lore and I must admit that switch trailer got me excited XD
Uzephi speed, was going to say the same thing. 
last I checked, I'm a CM not a lead designer, so i'm not the party to leverage your appeals to for season themes. we have something like 2yrs of content planned out at any given time.
In 2037 maybe
Ktjin, what is a CM?
community manager
Say
I just noticed
In the trailer we saw something that looked like Crabs with many red eyes... wait., is it even a Crabs ? Or a Spiders ????
Let the designer team know that they are doing a great job , as well as everyone in TGC including you ktjn. 
I don’t know how I didn’t make that connection sooner 
Ckrill Mintrenchcoat
That was sarcasm I know we have to wait for quite a while.... I'm just enthusiastic about underwater season and love promoting it 
Chomping Moths
How about Crab Manager
Oh yeahhh I wanted to ask ;-; ktjin, are there any plans to add seasonal theme music to the starlit dessert?
Did you just call me a crab?

Rose stole the bgm
Crabignis. 
consider the community managed 
:▷??
CM stands for Crills (Many)
If i were a crab I'd be the one who's dramatically running away from the belonging papa.
Drama. Love it.
I think the music is finished, but maybe the pointer to it isn't working? I did report music not working a few beta builds ago, so hopefully it will get looked into and fixed.
Also I was fighting for my life there no judgement. Just instincts
On a side note, I love this community 90% of the time, it’s sometimes strange to see fandoms, community followings have a predominantly non toxic group
We do get toxic at times I feel, but we also know how to turn toxicity off, idk if that makes sense
Was never expecting beta to be welcoming when I first joined it
I was thankfully proven wrong :’)
Oh boy those 10%........
And also a huge round of applause to our moderators too and tgc ;-; you can’t really have a non toxic community when the people at its head promote toxic behaviors sighhh
CM is the new ktjn pronunciation 
TO THE BOARD!!!!! 
I ended up raising a bug report this build too ;-; hopefully ;-;
I flagged it up, last i heard it was being worked on. i was also able to confirm the music lingering after cutscenes end is intentional because it's on a slow fade to transition back to the area music, and folks prolly don't linger there long enough to hear it transition back. it's something like 20s
I personally associate Ktjn with beta.
In the name of Megan King and Ktjn. Amen
I wonder if it's something about switching banks (assuming you use audio banks, it's pretty industry standard for Engines to use for audio) causing the area music to not play... 
probably, it's all fmod, but that's about all i know when it comes to the audio. that's a barrel of magic shrouded in even more mystery and intrigue than the engineering stuff.
Yeah fmod uses banks now. It is an audiophile's dream which is why I spent a good chunk of my "personal research" time looking into how a game's audio can adaptively change music like it does.
I noticed a lot of music has the valley bgm motif.
Is that another guideline specifically for music? Like creating a recognisable signature motif?
I watched the interview you sent in this chat, it was very interesting, was wondering if there is more lore food?
What day will the days of summer lights gonna come
When it's ready for testing.
O boy all of these sound so much like Greek and Latin to me ;-; I need to look up what an fmod is
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
Soon TM
We need a beta version of this
Maybe !isithereyet
but the message is the same
Yuh just 1 word difference
I’m waiting so long for the days of summer lights
Maybe the mods could adjust the message a bit to encompass beta and live in the same command
What do you mean it should say for beta?
I'm waiting for it also. I miss having my lantern in dark areas.
5AC per 10 min spell is pretty costly
Soon
People often ask when things will start testing, or when things will go live. It's pretty much the same response but a different channel to check on news
Sorry, I don't understand why we need a similar message for beta. The message is always the same: wait for official news.
Because people think that beta players get schedules in advance 
You can always give server suggestions in #contact-the-mods
Either way though a simple sentence will do the job too 
Wait, y'all don't have a notepad with canned responses for frequently asked questions in beta chat?
I think the !omgomgwhen already does a pretty good job.
Some people might ask about beta testing schedules specifically, and not when things go live. So the channel that they get redirected to would change. But I don't think a separate command is necessary for that. Or we could just not use a command and type out the answer 
It's also pinned so we can use 📌 too 
Yeah, I don't think there is anything that needs to be added. If people come asking about beta schedules it's usually because they saw a hack somewhere and...well...that's not ok.
We just need 4 letter
||soon||
I used to have this for another game community.
turning into a customer service automated message recording.
I lied. The letters are
||NEVER||
If it's a repeat event and no testing is needed, we might not get to test it in beta and have another Healing flower incident. 
Yeah... let's hope that doesn't happen. As funny as the disco bug was, I'd rather the game stay playable 
Remember beta community guide number 1.
Snatch the freebies right away
Buying bugged cosmetics is our uno reverse card on the code for crashing us
I wonder... Summer Lights should happen in live during the season, no? Does that mean we might get an extension for the season in beta to test summer lights during the season? 
Imo summer light will be live somewhere September. That's what my third eye is telling me
Depends , the event and the season aren't related to each other right?
They aren't related, but to remove any variables, it's good practice to have the environment the same as it would be in live.
Not in a way we might think of.
The presence of one might be able to crash the other
I see I see.
summer lights testing is July 8-12th but it looks like several things aren't firing off correctly, which i'm still trying to figure out why and fix 
Oh, no wonder I felt something's off, the transmission is a little long. 
Did we put leaded gas in the tank instead of unleaded? Sorry, had to. Firing off and mechanic joke.
the bonfire is working correctly, so that's a plus, though we'll have some tweaks and polish in the next build
clearly i put diesel in the tank
I don't have a driver's license. I have no idea what you're talking about.
The dyslexic in me hopes it was flipped letters Edit: the reason Summer lights hasn't started
sorry, I still don't get it 
the bane of any developer's existence "works fine on dev" so it's not a typo this time
A code string having flipped letters. Dyslexia is where you sometimes flip letters or numbers, liek tihs
transposed letters contribute to most bugs looking at you shy fire prophet
or missed checkboxes
One day everyone's speaking English the next they speak Chinese 
A good chunk of my edited messages are due to transposing letters... I am sure the mods have a field day with my edit logs.
oh, interesting!
I feel this
What's the fire prophet inside joke? 
they were missing for a significant amount of time during testing because of a typo.
Nope. They were busy taming the shadows and building the fire trial /j
They only appeared a week before live release iirc
Fun times
floor is lava
I think u need some Choccy Milk or energy drink I guess..... :/
I would be pulling my hair oh my god
What happened?
I assume the beach decorations are gone because ktjn said earlier the summer lights was supposed to be tested from 8th to 12th , and it's 13th now. 
correct, we'll extend the test period in the next build.
Fier Prophrt
Fire Propet
Fyr Profet
Dire Prophet
What else could've been the typo? 🤔
should we expect an update today?
Don’t think so
If someone was drunk:
Fhuert Ptofphrft
</firepuppet>
firepropeller
Please help! I don’t know what’s happening, I post an answer in beta screenshots but it doesn’t appear. Why?
What doesn’t appear?
Did you spell it correctly?
Edit: joking of course.
I was also trying to send a photo in beta screenshots and it said it was inappropriate
It said: “I am going to miss the big rose in that view” and a picture with the rose 🌹
I suspect there might be some banned words happened with me previously
I posted twice and it just didn’t appear, but it counted as posted because the pause mode started counting
Try changing the description and reposting
I just did that and again it was swallowed
Maybe try empty without description 😅 sounds like either description error or connection issue.
I think it’s like someone silenced me in that channel. But I haven’t been there in a while
It must be the auto-censor acting up, try editing your screenshot a little (crop, filters etc.)
For some reason the auto censor hates valley's lighting 
Yes I noticed is the picture but I don’t know why. It’s just a screenshot of the sunset planetoid with the big rose 🌹 on it and my sky kid. No edition on it
It might be the file name of your image that got caught in the filters.
I saw your @ post in beta screenshots and then it poofed. If your not sure what's going on try #contact-the-mods
Mods have no control over discord’s filter. Usually adding a border or cropping a little helps with accidental cases
Thank you. I did not know.
Do you know if the players in live game will see the big 🌹 rose on the planetoids of the exclusive asteroid zone? Or they only see as now with that emptiness 🥺
That’s why I was posting that picture censored.
**By the way: I just cut a little bit of my picture and now is posted!
For Genshin fans:
Pyro Prophet
Pyro prophet > Pyro abyss mage 
Someone help, both my sky live and beta gone, i checked on play store now it show app incompatible. Any solution ? Im dead now, this is strange.
I don't think any of us are capable of making your device magically compatible with Sky. Rest in peace Ardian
also see #beta-faq
Lmao my device is up to date android 11
Other high games working fine, sky got strange
Did it 2 hours ago and nothing changed
What is your device model exactly?
Did it contain a lot of red? Or general reddish screenshot?
Gone in sense of auto uninstalled?
Did you reset your phone recently?
Sorry if this is a silly question but is there a set date for when the days of summer will come out to live?
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!

Yes auto uninstalled, and i checked on play store it changed now "incompatible"
why I still cannot go to eden??????
Strange, what is your device model?
Hey guys, what’s the invite wave code if there is one?
There is none, invite waves are sent in the #beta-signup-info channel. You can find all information, as well as roles to get pinged when invites are open again, in #beta-faq .
I already asked this question to you but do you have a Huawei phone? Because that explains everything
No one can really help you, with possible ways to troubleshoot it, if you don't provide atleast the device model.
Sorry late replay, redmi note 8 pro
Both sky live and beta is incompatible, i played 8 hours ago working fine, and now, both SKY live and BETA auto uninstall by themself bc incompatible
Why Google?!
Nope and fortunately I sent it removing one photo which also didn't contain anything inappropriate or reddish
Is that sky fault or google? 😭
IDK!
Anysoultion? Should i wait google fix it or sky or i retired forever?
I can only advice to report this issue as a bug and maybe try asking in #android-questions too, lots of android tech-savvys there may be able to give you advice.
It's not really a beta-specific question either, since it affects both apps for you. So the above channel is probably your best choice for now. (And it's more important that you get your Live account back.)
A possible solution try resetting phone that's all i can say, make sure you take backup on your gmail account and mi account,
as much as i know redimi note 8 pro supports minimum compatibility to play sky,
& As already mentioned above report it as a bug and try reaching sky support via mail & feedback,
#android-questions is a place you may ask.
Thank you , i have done all step, i format my phone to factory reset also, still nothing happened
so tgc don't decline the summer yellow umbrella's price right?even though too many player think it's negtive
Iirc, that's the usual pricing with events IAP item that has function (e.g. DoSL: Lantern, DoL: Swing, DoL: Seesaw, DoB: Tea Set) but you're free to provide your thoughts on #beta-feedback if you haven't already
no no I have provide my suggestions on beta-feedback 3 times,I just curious about other player's attitude about this price aha.
Once is enough, I'm sure they read those feedbacks carefully (if worded properly), doing it more than twice is just asking for attention and "spammy" attitude
with the comparisons of the other IAP props, I gues they now have a standard for the pricing of that catagory.
Sure it's a bit iffy on the price but I doubt they give discounts to these items
I guess Imma start saving
Oh right, I forgot it's Bloom not Spring 🤦♂️
Thank you Yash for correcting me ❤️
okay but every times I give another thinking,forexample,first time I say the price is too expensive,second time I hope they can add something new or special functions on umbrella so that looks more "so value",third time I ask if they can wipe the season candle,meanwhile decline the price…
Wait, if Days of Bloom will comeback in the next year, Days of Bloom Bonsai tree will be good as decoration in Shared Space. I would like to test it hehe
but the latest update just decline the chair's price,I feel depressed

Regarding the "remove the candles" part specifically, ktjn gave a statement on that saying that removing the candles won't drop the prop's price: #beta-discussion message
Isn't "protection from rain" a special function enough for an umbrella?
The prices of virtual goods is hard to decide tbh.
Yes, because in the end, they're just pixel items.
Atleast that's what I think about them.
OMG my mind again, what if the TS umbrella (from Casual Stance TS) have Days of Bloom design? ksksowndosbsow
I don’t like the fact that it’s a paid item with a function (protects from the rain,) I assumed ultimate rewards stopped having any sort of useful function for that same reason
would it change your stance had the regular umbrella been a constantly-available item from one of the base constellation spirits? kinda similar to how the swing/seesaw/tea set came with a chat function, but we always had the option of a table
good idea
OH MY GOD!after read ktjn's statement.maybe I don't want debate it anymore.I promise I won't buy this summer umbrella,I thins it's unvaluleable!my money is enough to do something more meaningful

There will always be much more cooler items as time passes by and don't forget there's still that Parasol from Lightseekers: Laid-back Pioneer
Honestly that umbrella never fit the Lightseekers season, it feels like an item from the regular constellation (that’s what I thought anyway)
In the end that's the only question that matters. Is an IAP worth it to you? It's okay if it's not or if it is.
I heard it (Parasol) was a base-game item for a short time during Beta Lightseekers
If I recall, but I wasn’t there to lurk Lightseekers beta testing
I saw screenshots of it in the Whale Whisperer spirit tree BUT, that was merely a placeholder. Some of you may recall invisible cape being with that same spirit for awhile
but the nomal umbrella also can protect the raining,besides,lightseeking umbrella is very beautiful okay?if the summer umbrella can deaign unique style,I will use 20$ buy it!because it is value.
I wonder what function/s would you like more for an umbrella 
I'm Mary Poppins y'all⛱️
Flying features 
Some would like to place it down as a decoration, but you can already do that with sassy stance 🤔
my friend I never though the umbrella will sell in 20❤️,I know it is an IAP,what depressed me just is the price unequal it's value you know

hey,how about put down it in the ground!meanwhile we can use it in the shared place,how perfect it is!
I understand. So it's not worth it to you. Then you can choose to wait for the TS umbrella to return. I forgot his name. 
but I know it is impossible
I believe tgc won't do that😫
That actually sounds cool, maybe in future we can have an item like that
"Laidback Pioneer", i think it was
TS umbrella?are you point lightseeking umbrella?I didn't get your instruction
Yes the regular Lightseekers umbrella
That brings me to my second point, there’s no accessible alternative to those umbrellas. TS’es takes such a long time to repeat and that particular TS has already returned twice 😅
future
and I still wanna say season of assembly have too many useful prop such as cloet,,tent,and so on.I really hope tgc can add exactly function on them!
useless,sorry I type it wrongly
just puuuurely for the sake of the idea, you could probably get a pretty similar result if you ran around with the assembly tent prop by periodically dragging it over your head...doesn't quite work for flying, but you can also keep it out while burning stuff 
edit: oh yeah, and it doesn't shield your friends from the rain -- that's a bit of a bigger problem 
But there is still a possibility the Laidback Pioneer will return. Some TS have even returned more then twice.
I’m aware, my point being is that it takes such a terribly long time, and also limited
Yeah I agree. That's why I will purchase the parasol, because I think the price is fair and I don't want to wait. My point is that it's a personal choice.
With this, I've thought of an idea for Tier 2 Item, maybe a knockoff Umbrella sold at one of Hidden Forest Spirits.
I distinctly remember I saw a "black something shaped like an umbrella" when you relive Blushing Prospector's spirit memory
I like your idea.
I just submitted this to feedback, but I'm not really a fan of IAP props which either give a gameplay advantage or feel like reskins of existing items. I'd personally prefer something interactive but sorta pointless to candle runs, like the ball spell or maybe a modified version of the fireworks staff where you blow bubbles instead of casting flares (admittedly sorta like a reskin depending on how you look at it, but the novelty's in the particle effects rather than "differently shaped/coloured table")
I remember wanting a bubbles staff, those items would’ve been perfect for some of the Assembly spirits 
ascended scarf cape is just invisi /j
actually, adding onto what i just said: i think i'd like the fox prop quite a lot more if we could actually pick it up and move it around like a flipped crab -- it'd just look like a kid holding a plushie 
@sullen relic Draw me a manta! 
Okay now google prank my self, 12 hours ago, play sky normal, 6 hours later sky incompatible with device, after 3 hours, both sky live and beta appear again in play store
That’s good to hear, although super confusing!
Anyone still have a black screen issue?

