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Can you imagine the flaming from candle runners doing GW if they have to confirm on every dark plant in a fresh server
not for each ultimate. Maybe all of them together
🔹 Fixed a bug causing a confirmation prompt when burning dark plants
According to #beta-announcements, it’s a bug that’s not supposed to occur in the first place 
Edit: What am I saying bugs aren’t supposed to occur in the first place 
Hi friends. Hope beta testing is going well
For those who have the tent thing at the top of the questgiver tree, is it possible to stand on top of it? 
YAYY that makes me so happy!!! Thank you 
are we supposed to be able to link our progress on the switch? or is it the same as mobile beta
ah, nevermind, its a bug
Yes but only for yourself
i do be sad that the Link hair is an IAP for the switch, i don;t have the money to buy it, and i simply adore it. I get why it is one, but it just makes me sad
Honestly same lol, i wish the ocarina wasnt a switch iap too tbh
Did anyone see "improved" spirit interaction? Or is it not active yet?
Nope, I've still have no idea what's that all about
searched and made comparisons everywhere I could. Might not be active as this build is extremely broken
So beta is working as intended 
This has been a problem since day 1. The game asks for both your money and your dedication.
And then if you take a break after completing the season, you won’t have enough candles for the next event that comes along. It’s impossible to take a break from the game without missing out on things.
If there were interesting ways to earn candles, it would be one thing. But it’s just the same stuff over and over every day. It’s exhausting.
I continued to collect seasonals when I was done getting all the items and yet I’m still just going to squeak by and get the rainbow cape, which will drain my entire candle storage.
I don’t even buy traveling spirit stuff bc I have all the seasonal items from day 1. It’s ridiculous that I can’t take a break.
I've been here for a long time as well, I'd argue that there was a bit of room to rest back in the day, constellations were the least of my concerns and seasonal dailies wouldn't take more than half an hour, most of my time was dedicated to hanging out with friends. Not so much anymore, I find it much more exhausting lately
And yet, they tell us taking breaks is important for our health with the game contradicting that statement.
Us oldies are more generous with our candles than newbies, that's a bold statement to make but that's what it feels like having friends who joined Sanctuary and later, we don't have to worry about TS or constellations
Yeah I miss the days when regular candles only bought regular constellation items or friend upgrades — both of which weren’t going anywhere, so we could take our time. All these frequent events with limited time items that are expensive is just too much.
Oof .. I don't where know to search this question. I'm sorry! Can someone tell me if the daily candle count in beta is still roughly 18 candles? I appreciate it so much! Have a wonderful evening or day!!
does the ocarina have its own sounds yet or is it still the horn sounds
There hasn't been any updates yet, won't be until few days as stated in #beta-announcements
please be patient
ah ok thankies
And here I thought I was doing well with managing my candles as a Sanctuary moth
-in live I got a hefty amount of candles (+600) but cause my playstyle is a combo if social butterfly and a solo player, I don't usually spend on Sky friends, mostly with discord friend. Yet right now with so many events coming out way it feels like even with 1000 candles or more u can't relax and spend them on friends-the events costing the same as a TS! And that also can and most often does overlap with events that require candles to get stuff from -same with hearts 
Assembly is also not really helping, it's very tight and feels like the conversion at the end won't be very rewarding.. 
I honestly doubt that at the end of Assembly, anyone is going to get more than 30 candles except for those who buy 
I just got back to the game after taking a whole break and skipped season of dreams, i have 600+ candles yet i feel like its still not enough with the amount of candle spending events and ts back-to-back , I'm already starting to get exhausted and tired of this game after a month returning and i don't think its a good sign... I have already finished constellations yet I'm still grinding for candles
^ this is already included i missed days of fortune , skipped dreams and days of love so i have no idea how people are not exhausted with the candle management when cosmetics is the major spending of this game
Last thing I expected when getting hooked on Sky was a HUGE amount of commitment needed to be comfortable / stable in terms of progress and in app currency-I rarely buy candles cause it costs a lot.
I love this game I really do, it has helped me more than I like to admit but dayum...
I think they're asking normal candle
Even with the new candle system, candle running is still painful 😖. Not everyone has time to get candles every day and when you miss a day or two, you might not even be able to afford the ts cosmetics
the max is generally 20 but you should be able to hit 21
without trials that might put a bit of a dent in the number
Oh, normal, my bad
I don't CR in Beta
I only need about an hour to an hour and a half to get rid or all my Chevrons which is 15 candles. Then I can relax, set an alarm, and collect from Geyser for at least 2 to 3 more. If I wanted to get max daily it would still be less than 2 hours Prairie-Vault. Skipping Isle and Trials.
I thought with the new daily light system they would be lowering /adjust some event and ts prices since averagely now players don't do full crs and get maximum candles anymore but it feels the same as before if not higher prices
Ah true, sorry for ranting here as well

I don’t even bother with the geyser unless I’m lucky enough to be there when it’s time
It’s every 2 hours. From 5 minutes in to 15 after. And it’s easy if you leave Sanctuary as the last location you can just return shrine right back in plenty of time.
They should honestly revamp the candle system again and encourage socializing
Hi im a buff-ish moth, started in season of dreams halfway but uk as a moth we all have no idea what we're doing.
I spend a minimum of 2hours daily just to collect enough candles so i can get the travelling spirits and event items. Ive had to set completion of my constellations back quite abit.
In addition i feel bad for hoarding candles to spend on the timed events and im unable to spend on my friends when they want to unlock the friendship tree.
Just my two cents input as a not so moth (dont get me wrong i'll still grind hard but im starting to get burnt out) 😅
Yh I know but I don’t always have free time and I’m unable to go to geyser sometimes
I started in rhythm and own everything but it still feels like I can’t take a break tbh
all the events coming at us so fast and friendship upgrades. I buy a lot of candles and I don’t even need TS or base game constellation anymore 
Atleast they made geyser permanent
I don't have to cr so much anymore
I'll just wait for geyser
The reality of mobile games is they take either money or time. It’s a model used in... many many mobile games.... the need to own EVERY item and be a f2p means you dedicate time. it’s okay to miss some pixels from time to time.
But thing is, some people buy candle packs and STILL they can't get everything
WHALES
I will say that with everything. The events have made me quite stingy when it comes to gifts and friendship upgrades which is the complete opposite result that TGC said they wanted when revamping the system. Nothing changed really, still need to save up 200+ candles. For every TS and also save for events on top? If we actually made more candles per day and/or things were cheaper than we could spend on friends. I’d gladly send gifts more often if I could afford to and buy the items I want. I also hate being told, “Well you don’t have to buy everything.” Whenever I say this too. =_= Yeah, I know, but that’s HOW I WANT TO PLAY. Waiting a year for a TS to possibly come back is just not ideal.
My thoughts exactly i mean who doesnt want to get everything (miss confetti i regret not buying ur bow pls come back)
They need to overhaul the candle system or lower the ts prices
I’ll add that I’m a pretty active player too. I nearly full CR every single day on both Live and Beta and even with all that I still feel like I can manage maybe two gifts per day and NO friendship/friendship upgrades.
@wheat panther Yeah? And so did I for Sanctuary, Prophecy, and Dreams. We paid to get them early.
but then again, they make everything based on candles.
Where's the socializing? You either:
- cr for ts and events and quests
- socialize with friends and get left out on said ts and events
I ate it 
I completed every season so I don’t need the traveling spirits and I’m still struggling to stay on top of things for the events. 1.5 years later I have zero interest in doing candle runs and I SHOULD be able to participate in the events by collecting a few candles per day, but that’s not the case.
I think overhauling the whole currency is a bit too big of a change at this point in the game. But the ts system definitely needs to be revamped. I feel like tgc dug themselves into a hole with the ts system. Can't get rid of it outright, prices need to be high to appease older players, but the high prices coupled with the large number of events are causing burn out, even with a new daily light system
i really don’t cr much at all anymore and i’m not sure if it’s because of the new system or because i’m burnt out and bored
reminder don't forget to finalize your thoughts and post respectful feedback about current features in the feedback channels! This topic seems more fitting for #live-feedback It will be easier for TGC to hear in there 
As someone who paid for Sanctuary, Prophecy, Dreams, and now Assembly. I think anyone being upset at low TS prices is being Selfish. The reason I paid was so I didn’t have to wait for TS to come in the first place which is a perfectly fair trade off. Their prices being lower really shouldn’t matter.
Omg is this THE app unwrapper
Nope, this is... Samantha!
It's gonna be a storm once ults come back
veterans gonna be screaming again and Tgc will make things overpriced to compensate
i wouldn't mind paying 30 dollars for ults tho
Just did! 
I personally think we should just have to buy out all their season TS’ to unlock Ult gift.
I am a "veteran" and I will be screaming... Screaming that I can finally own the bonfire I missed out on by 2 candles
30?😒 Bro I don’t get any money since COVID😫
Also reminder that this is the beta channel. While these discussions are great for the Sky community, they should be happening over at #general-sky-discussion, #cozy-sky-discussion or maybe #seasons-events-chat and not here since they are not related to beta 
AIGHT NERDS
MOVE TO #general-sky-discussion
We’re discussing it here bc this was all brought on by the overpriced rainbow cape.
That's fair. I also don't think the prices need to be so high. But the reason that they are high in the first place is to still have another incentive to purchase an adventure pass, other than getting cosmetics earlier. At least, that's what it originally was meant to do. With so many ts now in the pool, it's even rarer to see a specific spirit come home.
But if tgc does lower prices, what kind of backlash will they recieve? They already got a ton of backlash from the proposed ts system change we tested a few months ago.
And now I'm asking it to be moved since the discussion has strayed from the original topic. This way we can leave this chat free for relevant testing discussion or eventual questions testers might have
i don’t think general is even the place for these kinds of discussions it’s so crowded
Would be a bit imbalanced in the long run tho unless they reworked the randomness of the TS, eventually we have 10 occured seasons waiting for a specific group of ts to complete the season is gonna be near impossible
My apologies, I try to have such discussions there but kids these days would rather discuss which Krill is the most fashionable: "is it Whirthun or Ktjn?" I don't know what's that about
Smh just give us a ideas discussion page Miri
Trying to understand if insensitive was auto-correct or a Freudian slip.
Edit: insensitive does fit though... High prices to force candle purchases...
Autocorrect.
I meant incentive
I can ask about the proposed change since it is Beta, what was it? I wasn’t in Beta at the time. I personally like having to own an adventure pass to buy certain items from TS, but maybe it’s not good for all players especially if they are teens without income.
Is this discussable in cozy or somewhere where there's less chaos, beta chat has a been a great place to do long topics
anyone did the final quest of assembly and saw if anything changed?
Or is it the same potato ending as before
You can submit server feedback and/or suggestions in #contact-the-mods. While I understand the sentiment, it's not an excuse to have them here instead as this is not a second general chat. For now the advice I would give is try to engage in these conversations as a group in the more slow-paced live channels, and you might just see a change for the better with time
im worried this could be too negative for cozy chat
the people there are just tryna have a good time
the system we tested was to make the emote levels and cosmetics that were originally pass locked in their respective season to also be pass locked on a ts tree. those pass locked items would be free, and the other items would cost a few more candles then they usually would. overall, the price would be significantly lower than the current system.
i’ve actually written a message on this exact topic in that channel a while back, that we need another channel like this one but not beta specific
It was a solid system, just introduced way too late
And they decided against it? Will the system return to Beta? I liked that idea. I’ll send to feedback.
We created cozy chat because of community feedback. If you think a channel for the purpose of discussing game features and other extensive, critical and often controversial feedback would be good, we want to hear that! We know it's a tough spot to discuss them in the server and are definitely interested in having a better solution overall so they can take place. They just can't happen here when it has nothing to do with beta testing anymore and it's more of a general Sky topic
I remember the flaming mess that was afk system
I think the problem with this system was the way people need to buy current AP
If only they can make people buy old AP (but that would be weird since the season has ended):SkyShrug:
we stopped testing it. it was very poorly received. people didn't like the fact that f2p players would no longer have the freedom to choose which items they wanted to buy, or that some players would feel forced to purchase the current adventure pass simply because they wouldn't want to miss out on some cosmetics, even if they didn't want it for the current season.
i for one think it was a good step in the right direction, but needs to be worked on more
Its not too bad right now imo, it was just presented wrongly in the update post, not to mentioned early on it wasn't stated properly thay the timer set is just a temporary placeholder and people were panicking about 2 minute afk
The day afk system fully hits live is the day I uninstall and never open the game again.
I made it a rule for myself that the first irritation of a feature/first pass build is just one giant placeholder, so I wouldn't panic so much
That is an awful idea. I wouldn’t want to buy 6 other AP just for TS’ that are randomized.
I think it would have been fine if they just had it the way they proposed it because the alternative is a terrible solution.
Anyways, I’ll send feedback. Going to stop so mod doesn’t have to mute us. Even though I’m sure Beta stuff shouldn’t be in cozy or live chats.
Not gonna happen, since Tgc listens unlike some games
looks at netease
A lot of people proposed discounted prices for AP holders , i think thats not a bad idea
:Sorry mirian , the discussion is still happening ill stop 
To be very clear, discussions that are more suited for live channels are stuff like ults coming back, the daily light system, and the overall grind feeling of the game- or other general topics. If you wanna talk about Days of Rainbow, the AP lock, the AFK system or anything else being tested in beta right now that's fine here 
I don’t understand the hate for the AFK system considering it resets every single time you head between areas. Not just realms. There aren’t many areas that take longer than 10 minutes which seemed to be the max time limit before you couldn’t get wax anymore. So it really shouldn’t effect active Ubers or their passengers.
i am wondering about something listed in the recent update notes, how are spirits more personable now?
So far we haven't seen any changes, maybe that particular feature is bugged
Oh boy, rainbow cape is 175
burnout, here I come again if it doesn't change
this update is definitely bugged 
It's the idea behind the system. It's the malice and hate towards the testers who sat under the tree to try out the limits the tree gave. It was poorly explained and was daggers to the testers who tested for science.
Maybe the testers did it for science, but it looked exactly the same when the tree appeared on live
Smh if they didn't want people afking under the tree then they should've made the tree gave no lights
I feel like there's an emotional roller coaster for tgc is trying to do , first we have the new daily light system to promote lesser cr burnout and more social interaction , then we have continuous events and ts back to back that causes extreme candle spending 
It seemed like they had plans for an AFK system before that event, but who knows whether that is true or not. I will say that I feel irritated every single time someone sits around and expects me to do the work for them like at Geyser and/or the Vault Elevator. I help with Geyser because I want the light, but I will leave if someone refuses to help with Vault elevator. You’d think that would be rare, but I’ve had it happen quite often in this past week.
Or.... You know, fix the light system instead of implementing an afk system that still doesn't fix the problem: people would rather AFK than play your game says a lot and implementing an AFK system instead of fixing a big issue is a bad implementation.
Well they had to see that coming right? You cant implement a light collection syatem like that and not expect it to get "taken advantage" of. Seems like a punishment on the players for a dev/programming issue or maybe just a collection format that wasnt fully thought out.
I agree completely that the focus should be on incentivising the type of play they want to see instead of a punishment based approach.
You could also say they had to see the consequences of the ts system clashing with events too , but welp
I will say, it’s a bit ridiculous to have the AFK system in place when the grey candle collection is so low you’d probably only get like 2 extra candles max between resets anyways.
And the outcome wasn't so bad either... That time was the most social I've been
But I still don't understand why they see it as a punishment, who does the afk system punish? As they already said above, most of the areas of the game can be easily completed before 10 minutes.There are even some areas that cannot be farmed while afk (Vault is the best example)
I agree... it contradicts the whole point of introducing a system meant to reduce grind — when events have items that cost almost 200+ candles.... if anything this just further promotes grinding the game
The more grinding a game becomes, the more likely players are to drop it, that’s coming from personal experience..
I also hate how getting an adventure pass itself feels grindy these days... missing out on 2 ults is bad enough, but 4 ults??? I hope this isn’t an indicator of things to come.
Right? Not going to name who was there under the tree testing with me, but we chatted, conversed here in this exact channel while collecting light. We were being sociable, just not touching our screens since there are other social avenues than using a 5" screen to type... Edit: you can ask anyone who plays with me. I barely talk... I hate typing on my phone. I'd rather use a proper keyboard and have the clicky clacks.
I dont necessarily see it as a punishment, but its more like negative reinforcement vs positive reinforcement. They are both trying to accomplish the same thing but one leaves kind of a bad taste in your mouth.
Probably the people who don’t run at all and will just sit at the geyser all day collecting the light there every 2 hours. Or another event like the tree. They planned to implement more events to passively collect light from in the future and they don’t want people just avoiding CRing to collect idly at those places.
The issue I have is that it is only like an extra 2 candles max after you hit grey between resets anyways. So the argument that it’s a punishment to those who don’t run holds a ton of water.
Get ready for Sky : Children of the Light 2 where they reset the whole game and revamped everything to be "equal for all" /s
It's a joke guys
I had cuddle piles with friends under that tree, and so many strangers and friends I don't see as often would come to join! I really miss it so much
The problem is that CR runs are tedious. The game desperately needs more ways to earn candles or it needs to cut back on the costs of limited time items.
Well that’s good, the $10 on the seasonal pass at least relieves us of having to grind 14 days for 1 item on the TS... if you get only 10 candles a day like I do... that’s 140 in 2 weeks
And with the mandatory 10 candles to unlock spells + 3 hearts (3 x 3 = 9 candles), that’s 19 candles to unlock any cosmetics
If you are buying cosmetics — usually they are upwards of 70, on average items cost 70+ when they are in demand
So you’re looking at 140 + 19 = 159+ candles for two 70 items (basically all rythm candles)
i wonder if it would be a terrible idea or not to have travelling spirits come a little less frequently..? i know they used to be like every week and they slowed it down but
Dark would you be willing to pay 19.99 for those 2 candles you missed? For the bonfire if it ever comes back? :( I know I wouldn’t be...
Honestly for me it’s not even the events that are a problem, the issue is really the steep price of cosmetics in the event...
why in the world is the rainbow tree so expensive, guaranteee most people won’t even bother with the spells
I’m just saying that the argument that it is meant to punish has evidence to back it when you consider that someone like me who usually CRs to the grey candle each day would only get an extra 2 candles per day if I AFK’d anyways. Point being is the system worth it to prevent people from getting 2 extra candles per day? It’s clearly a punishment.
TGC: New daily light, it's choose your own adventure
Also TGC: No, not like that! implements AFK system
Do you see being afk as an adventure? 
I think the TS times are fine as it is, honestly once a month is pushing it too much... imagine you want that one cosmetic... now you have to wait a month and then... it’s karate again for the 3rd time... oops looks you gotta another month !!

Sleep and dream your own adventure!
/j
The tree parties I had, yes, yes it was. Keep in mind, all you need is a stylus resting on your phone or a joycon with drift... so the system doesn't really work anyway.
My beta candles are ready for ts but not ascended candles
deleted my message so you are correct sorry for posting
I’ve definitely had more experiences sitting under tree than while running too. I’d argue that the people saying it’s a social opportunity are correct. I hate having to constantly stop to type while I’m CRing anyways. If I could run 3 Realms and sit “AFK” under a tree or at geyser or some future event place to finish up I would AND could guarantee I’d be more social doing it.
i guess im kind of thinking about the people who are taking long breaks from sky.. less for them to miss out on, and possibly less grinding for moths. but i do remember being a semi moth who would do full crs daily with 400+ candles and i felt like those spirits weren’t coming often enough lol
But being social in game is not considered afk, and that's exactly the point.
Even getting the pass is so stressful omg... The past couple of days I thought I missed one day for assembly in live and I was stressing and worrying about what if I missed two days...I thought not having a pass was problematic... but it’s problematic to even have it ;-;
But opening Voice comms with the player in front of you, both talking and watching the game is considered afk.
I didn't read the message in full, but I am a F2P'er and my passes since Belonging have been gifts by generous friends, so the option to pay is not on the table
Honestly I wouldn't be so bummed out if TGC considers making items like those again, I was expecting a beautiful umbrella for Assembly as it's set in Forest, but we got a not-so-portable bed sheet on a few sticks as shelter
You can actually miss two weeks in live and still be able to complete the seasonal constellation.
If youve seen some of the previous discussion on this topic you'll find a lot of alternative play methods that lead to being afk even when you are actually interacting. People with disabilities or playing around a single larger monitor. There are a lot of ways to play and be afk that i had no idea about before.
I’m for both arguments simply because it wouldn’t really effect me anyways considering I run on both Live and Beta. However, I can understand the argument of AFK system seeming like a punishment. Why would it matter if someone is AFK at the tree or geyser anyways? We can’t get a lot of extra candles once it’s grey anyways. The new system they introduced for candle farming makes it a crawl after the candle turns grey. The tree, as active as it was, still only provided about 1-2 extra candles per day. So what’s the point at that rate?
That makes me more anxious :( tbh, because if I took a 2 week break, then there’s less room for accidental mistakes
It’s like when you get 70% on the homework assignments category at school and the only way to get a B in the class is to get a 100% on the tests category 💀💀
I wonder why instead of a cape, tgc didn’t just do a smaller cosmetic like a pin for your hair and have it cost 40 something candles... that way there’s no excessive grind requirement
Cynic in me says, it's to force either hours of grinding or spending money on candles. Just imagine all the new switch players who start playing at Switch launch and see the high price tag of the limited time rainbow cape... It would make the Switch launch flop real hard.
Most ppl won't go completely afk, and actually you can afk while been social. Like last night in live I spend 3 hours with my friend. We have a great time be with each other, but we won't have movement all the time. Is this type of playstyle consider as social?
It’s weird how the rainbow cape costs almost 2.5 times more than bloom cape though... plus you have the mandatory 30 candles worth of spells you need to unlock... In total the cape costs 205 candles... sighhh
If you say it’s because of the unique design of the wing labels, I’d argue the base shape of the cape is simple and similar to the base model capes
And bloom had a UNIQUE shape design and texture to it
Surely, the wing labels can’t alone be the reason for the high cost?.
I honestly believe this too. They want people to have to do CRs or buy candles. Even though it clearly burns people out with things priced the way they are. The only hope most people have of getting rainbow cape in live, if it’s cost doesn’t change, is if they don’t spend on TS or it’s already a TS they’ve bought out already/were there for it’s season and have all its items.
...I reserve judgement of the Rainbow cape until the next patch
But I'll have grey hairs by then
Didn’t even think about new players experiencing these events. It was confusing enough starting with Gratitude and not understanding seasons. But at least back then there were no limited time events that asked for 200 candles for one item.
I honestly thought that the rainbow cape would have rainbow trails.. which would justify the 205 price tag... but ktjin confirmed there were no plans to do that .... so the price fro the labels is lost on me
You know, you can;t even see the 11th cape design unless youre not wearing any props on your back
Most props in the game hide the 11th wing design... so the design of the labels matters so little to me ;-;
I wish they would make trails part of the closet instead of spells and really go crazy with them. Sparkles, sound effects, patterns and so on.
On second thought sound effects might be dangerous.
Just don't light anyone and then they will see it. 
Didn’t even know a season was going on when I logged in randomly one day during gratitude ;-; had I known, I would have gotten the dismiss cape sighhh
It's okay rainbow cape price can still change. It's still beta, that's why we gotta give feedback to them
The rainbow cape also comes with an event meant to celebrate LGBT and they’re locking out a lot of people from getting the cape. They already have an item that costs $20 so why not go easy on people and let us have the other item at a more reasonable price?
And I forgot about the earrings/tassels. I don’t think I can afford those if I get the cape. The spells are too expensive.
I missed Lantern because I didn’t even know you could buy those items permanently and that the spells were just their “free trials”. Still sad I missed it.
If you were chatting with your friend or at least moving something in ranges of 10 minutes, it still does not affect events like the tree or the geyser.
And according to that logic, saying that there are "many ways to socialize without touching the screen" U can still socialize without being connected to the game (I am referring only to those moments where you stay afk and you start talking by voice call) you can continue the call as there would be no difference if both are afk.
But well, I am not able to find a problem with the afk system as it does not affect anyone in terms of gameplay
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
Based on previous feedbacks, I highly doubt it would drop to any reasonable price... If it does, I'll eat my hat.
😭😭😭😭 but but I won’t see it! And I’m the one wearing itttttttt 😭🥲
Lol flashback to all that feedback and arguments on beta about the afk system
And then they ended up bringing it back anyways
I’m still hoping they accidentally adding a 1 and it was supposed to 75 instead of 175
Remember assembly total price was impossible without buying candle pack.. maybe it's something similar
Any updates on the Assembly props or have we forgotten about that?
Whirthun heard us out and noted that we thought price was too high and/or would be acceptable if it had a permanent trail. I’d be surprised if there is no change.
nope. everything is the same as ever 
i would just take every first version as a placeholder until there is a finalized update
I don't think 175 is a placeholder price like Assembly was. With all the feedback, I would have trusted them to put it in known issues that the price for the cape is placeholder if it were true.
Didn;t know about this.. glad that they MAY consider lowering it or adding a permanent trail
Everyone says placeholders but......... how often have non-seasonal items changed price?
Confirming and changing are two different things though. They confirmed about a lot of things and they didn't change, because that wasn't the direction they wanted to go.
Oh yea... everything about the afk system.. was technically heard by the dev and staff.. but they did still bring it back
IMHO if they don't want to changethe price, then at least separate switch launch date and DoR date for the fairness of switch moth
Both are in June. With how switch is going, it might not be until the very end of June and Switch moths will miss out or have to pay to get the cape.
Hmm, I still don’t think they won’t make any changes to the tree at the very least. Especially considering the tassel is 20 hearts on top of that total 245 candles for everything on the tree including the cape. I’d bet it will at least get a bit cheaper. I’d hope...especially considering Christmas Cape and Bloom Cape prices both added together is still less than this one cape. Even the table that had a function of recharging you on top of chatting was only 150 in comparison. It would be surprising if there is no drop in price.
not all feedbacks are taken into consideration , whirthun's role is to ensure our feedbacks are heard from the team, doesnt mean they will implement it. It a team's decision after all
flashbacks to whirthun addressing the players with disabilities concerns over afk and that not changing at all. Definitely appreciate them acknowledging it at least
Why is the cape so expensive though... I still don’t understand the rationale, anyone know if it is that difficult to make unique wedges?
The cape is really just the moth cape with tye dye flavor but would the cape without the rainbow 🌈 cost as much?
Well we can only give feedback and wait what TGC's move will be
not satisfied give feedback again. At least they know what we want, whatever decision they taking would be for later. Remember afk and TS system being pushed back because of the feedback
The wedge is a unique 3D mesh last I remember 👀 Also... Moth cape with tye-dye, ouch 
Candle purchases are the only avenue for them getting any money from this event since 100% of net on the flower goes to charity.
@random gull Acknowledgement cookie.... I’ll eat it with salty tears pouring down my cheek
Hmmm strange... the cookie tastes salty now instead of sweet... 
@carmine thorn oh I see, then how about making the tassel or cape an IAP?
changing those two as IAP now would probably cause a major scene
plus its the message behind it , although different to all , the items are symbolic and very meaningful to a lot of players, it would be quite unfair to change it now
Uuuu remembering green cape from assembly
I really wish events would just have smaller trinkets to remember them by... maybe a rainbow pendant or hair pin or something.. it doesn’t always have to be capes ;-; especially if they’re hard to make
Alright, I’m bowing out gotta eat an such. Appreciate your perspective Uzephi there were some things I hadn’t thought about and it’s always good to see other opinions on things. I do really hope we get some kind of change even if it’s just a permanent trail or a tiny bit of a price drop. Who knows, all we can really do is send feedback.
I appreciate the other perspectives too. Remember to take care of yourselves before all else. Drink water, eat food, get some sleep. ❤️ Bye for now Beta Chat!
bye aiden, thanks for the interesting discussion 
Had the idea of permanent coloured trails working similarly to resize, so colours in the sky would be more unique than seeing the same one over and over. With each spell you get a random colour
ooooo I like that idea! I would go for a teal or blue trail 
That’s a great idea dark! XD love ittt ❤️❤️😍
#beta-feedback 
I want to forever color the sky purple / blue!!
I’m surprised they’re not giving any of the rainbow trail spells away for free? Or are they? The boat crashes if you try to look.
There could be free trial 
The spells are broken. There are free demo spells
They are giving free rainbow spells, picked mine a few days ago
My beta kiddo: oh boy cant wait to see the new color tra-- (crashes)
the button on the far left of the boat has free rainbow spells? not the trails
Boat experiences it's summed up like that- no more closing the game normally, use the boat to crash and leave the game in style 
Read wrong, i thought dark picked colored trail lmao
...I did not just skim over the word trail in "rainbow trail spells" 
switch players just open their emotes menu to crash the game and leave in style
don’t ask me how many times I’ve instinctively opened emotes menu and crashed my own game. it’s far too many
And other switch players look longingly at their eShop. 
My bad, trail spells are broken and can never be obtained in this build. if you ever saw them around or your friend John told you, it's not "legit"
Darn it John 
Do you guys think if we link our mobile and switch accounts, the link hair (if purchased) will be available (to see and wear) on mobile?
the hair and capes will be able to be worn on mobile but the candles that come with the pack will only be able to be used on your switch if I read the updates correctly
outfit items will transfer between platforms, currencies will not. As we get closer to release we'll have FAQs and whatnot explaining how IAPs work between platforms.
cool so I did read it correctly
do you happen to know if the rainbow trail spells will be permanently added to ark shop or am I gonna hoard these and never use them cuz they’re limited so it has to be special occasion 
ooo i hope so. i would love to see more color in the skies all year round! i say before we even get to see them in action
you know the new tent item, would it protect against rock rain past pnr? most likely not but im curious
it does not. also, no need to spoiler anything in the beta channels 
pretty sure it doesn't
Beta itself is a spoiler so it be like ||doing this with all the text||
there aren’t any props that can protect you from the rock rain but the setup before the continuous rock rain does give you a good amount of protection! in the continuous rock rain if you run in a zigzag instead of straight into the rocks you don’t get stun locked as much. also beeping supposedly helps too (regular beeps not deep call)
I forgot to write down the prices for the IAPs— does anyone have them? I wanna know how much to save up for the live release.
29.99 for switch pack
19.99 for dor flower
Each comes with 75 candles
Also prices may change since it's still in beta
if you get both packs that is..... 150? candles which is a great start on buying things for days of rainbow However that is like 50 usd
So opening emotes in switch be like
Adios.
Nintendo pack will stay forever so no need to rush buying it
“Bow to another player” be like 💀

if only bowing to the scouts for the scavenger quests counted

Does the ocarina got sound now
Nope, I don't think so
No, we will have to wait for the next update to come.
Ended up sending feedback about getting little trinkets like hair pins and pendants instead of big items like capes for events for candles >< hope they consider it
Morning peoples 🙂
I'm sure this has already been asked but I can't find it anywhere.
If I purchase the Nintendo pack, am I able to then wear the items on Mobile as well? I am under the impression that everything I have on Live will be available to me on Switch, so, does it go both ways?
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
#beta-discussion message
see this message from ktjn
Chatting on the switch must be so annoying hahaha

Update quickly, we help find bugs.
Can’t wait for the day I can send my friends hearts and light their candles again 🥺
can we get the switch test version now?
They already sent email to testers
They said first wave, checkout pins 📌 don't know when they'll pick more testers
@spark lance do you mean friend constellation? If yes, it is currently bugged 🐛 we won't get any updates in few days. Checkout #beta-known-issues and #beta-announcements
I dont think an update is happening until next week >< devs are working hard! Let’s root for them!
Am I the only one who wishes the rainbow cape was more vibrant?
I like the current design
I like the design too. I just wish it was more glowy and vibrant like the ocean cape
I think that the pastel colors make it a little bit more unique to other rainbow designs that can exist 



i thought rainbow cape means we can change the colour of the cape automatically like those concert light sticks
i actually like the more pastel colored cape. less taxing on the eyes, but still unique and colorful. but i prefer pastel colors (or blues, i love blues), so its more my preference than anything 
Imma say something controversial
||we have way too many blue cosmetics||
you mean red
My friend thinks so too
She just doesn't like blue
I want the rainbow cape to be
blinding
even though i love blue, yes. we have an imbalance of colors, specifically with reds and blues. at least assembly gave us some green for a change.
That one is so bright that it’s blinding in eden and gives headache 🤕 
I want more pink like clothes to match pink cape 
Emma you just gave me a terrible idea. I'm gonna go do eden in my shiny boi cosplay. White cape, manta pants, jelly hair, anubis mask, and some glow spells.
Lmao Aeras
I’m gonna say good luck to ya 
Don't worry, days of rainbow will give us all the colours
🌈
I wanted to check the boat for the rainbow spells and i clicked the wrong button, instant crash

I don't have a problem with blue. It's just I find it difficult to colour match my cosmetics 
It's THE R A I N B O W C A P E after all 
lets see
we have 3 seasons themed cold colors - blue to purple kind (rhythm ,lightseekers, prophecy )
4 seasons themed mainly warm colors - red to yellow kind ( sanctuary , gratitude , dreams , assembly)
Belonging seasons are kinda mixed
IAP wise from the Days events there's also a mix
i think there's some balanced , its just that a majority of players favour cold colors more and wear them more often , making it seem like there's a majority blue themed cosmetics , thats just what i think
, especially rhythm, too many pants. coughs
Let the gay
shine
Is it just me or Enchantment Capes have the coolest cape design and color scheme?
Tho I'm definitely biased since I'm an Ench Moth.
@sick pendant I kinda wish Rainbow cape is a little vibrant too, for my opinion it feels and looks 'meh' however I love the fact that the exterior and interior color is somehow the same.
I think the fur capes of gratitude have the most unique shapes and textures XD so glad they exist and since it was the first season, I can see why they put so much effort into the design
The cape from Yoga Emote changed right? Design-wise?
I remember watching TGC Sky Promo video, and the maroon cape looks identical (design and shape wise) to the cream colored one
Same here, the tassels and embroidery on the capes are just so cool.
guys how many days does the rainbow event last?
How's it goin? Is someone got crashed when holding hands or following them?
#beta-known-issues also read #beta-announcements
Mmm I see. 
How can I be in beta?
Thanks, when does it get open?
I never thought beta would get more dismal without the constellation 
Dismal in what way?
I used two resize potions and ended up at the same height i started with 🤡
and my Easter egg will have to wait 😔
in general, as if it's not an online game anymore bleptia.
I just keep a device on the older build for constellation and forest runs, eagerly waiting for the fixes in the new build 

I still remember there’s the journey skin from sky beta, it was long time ago and it was removed and I forgot why 👀
Copyright
or maybe it was causing problems with animation
Copyright actually sounds fair
Okie i found this one message, probably it was related to the gameplay or it was never ment to be there 
#beta-discussion message
Basically journey is owned by Sony so they couldn’t really add it due to copyright I guess
and I think it says that they used it for proof of concept purposes 
has anyone in the current mobile build tried doing full candle runs with friends in the older build on mobile or switch? i managed an eden run from switch with a friend on mobile
we had to merge in eden social though cuz fruends couldn't access constellation and i couldn't teleport due to build difference 
Hi everyone! My beta costalations don't open ,why? Help me please!?🙏😔☹️😢
It’s a common bug right now, see #beta-known-issues 
Yep we did a full cr with B. We tried every area with older and newer build together and wrote down the areas where its impossible to merge or play with both.
Wait, so different builds can still play with each other?
I thought players of the same build can only play with others who are on the same build?
Yes this two currently can, usually they can't tho.
Here's the list where you can play together atm
#beta-discussion message
waiting for merges outside home is annoying though (but doable), if I run with others we usually all revert to the old build
i got ur heart notif 😔💛
so people with a switch
how is the chat system going?
Usually old build gets a forced update so it wasn't a possibility back then. But right now switch is on the previous build, so you don't get a forced update and can try some work arounds to play with friends who can't downgrade. iOS can revert but sadly Androids can't. But we merge with friends and play together still except the areas mentioned in Pakka's post

Terrible
do you type using the touchscreen or... and how do you open the chat in the first place? is there a designated button?
You press - and it minimizes the app, which eventually makes you crash and/or server split if you type for too long
has anybody tried using a keyboard?
Hey ! Is rainbow guy coming back ? im panicking because i was waiting for updates to buy the cosmetics but it disappeared 🥲
even with usb keyboard it still minimized the app and server switched me
so i resorted to interpretive beeping and discord chat
#beta-discussion message days of rainbow will probably be re-enabled in beta for testing in the next build (it hasn't ended yet though?)
The rainbow guide disappeared? Not for me it seems 
I also have the guide, boat says "7 days to go" 
He's there for me too 👁️👄👁️ boat is there too 
thanks!
If you have downgraded the game you won’t see the rainbow guy. Though it’s still at home in newest build
how do i play on the nintendo
Wait for the game to be released some time in June. 🙂
but ive seen a video of someone playing on the nintendo
That would have been the beta version.
then how do i play on that version
You can’t play there now, sorry 
Тут русские есть!? Are there Russians here?
We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @merry palm. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.
but i saw a video about it 
because they got in when they were doing submissions for the beta version. its closed now, you cant get in
Yup, do you need help or have questions about beta? 
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh okkkkkk sorry i didnt know 
yes there are 2 questions.
- I saw in the play market there is a beta version of the sky. I wanted to know what it is. And 2 question. How to get there?
beta version is the testing version of sky, meaning you try out content before it heads live by getting rid of bugs, feedback to make it better, and helping make things easier to find for new players when it goes into live fully finished
You can read #beta-faq all info about beta is there
And if you can write something like that in Russian)
We need to talk here in English 
This server is English only for easier moderation, If you need it translated to another language, a free translator like Google translate works great or asking to take it to DMs might be a better solution. 
I need to copy and translate sentence by sentence
If you're talking about in the game, you don't need to do that. Just press the sentence and a translate button should appear.
I can't find the translation button
Tap and hold on the message, the message will turn blue and the translation icon will appear
They were talking about discord. I don't think you can translate here 
It wasn't entirely obvious, so that's why I specified "in the game".
I'm sorry I didn't get it right
I'm unsure why you are apologising or for what. 
The translation button appears next to the text of the chat log in beta 
since apparently i have to ask this here too
how often do prices for items change? in general
Depending on the feedback
If you mean, how often it has happened in the past...well, a few times. But it's not a given that TGC will change prices just because there seems to be a lot of negative feedback here. There are also a vast number of players outside of Discord who may not feel the prices are bad.
How's the inbox in beta?
its the same as it is in live right now
oh yeah. i said i would do eden today in the brightest outfit combo i can come up with last night. wish me luck 
Oh come on no one is ever going to say “no please don’t lower the price for the event items.”
Well, maybe someone who’s saved up 8,000 candles and wants to be the only one who owns it.
That's also not what I said. Although, to be fair, there have been people even here on the server saying that they think the rainbow cape is priced fairly. 
However, my main point was that we're only a small portion of the player base. TGC might need to take other feedback into account also. (Or none at all, it's up to them, after all.)
hmm... i noticed that the quality of the particle effects in ascent has dropped significantly a few updates ago, and its even worse now. i'll send a comparison in beta screenshots, but i wonder why its so bad now
now comparing my older screenshots to the ones from today, its so bad. i really hope this is a bug because its so bright and the lines are so blocky. those lines during ascent are supposed to be thin, not whatever that was 
uh do you mean ascend ? (¯―¯٥)
like ascended
ohh edeeen
ascent as in the area between storm and orbit.
also whats wrong with the slowmod
did some chaos happen ( ˘﹃˘ )
Nah it's normal here
I really hope it's a bug. That looks awful!
It makes me sad, especially since I'm one of the snapdragon users 
Our graphics are already terrible we don't need it to be worse
i just lookat my beta thing and i lost it .-. did a beta invite just happened?
you were probably inactive, beta invite ways changed recently
i was active .-.
nevermind, i changed accounts. i am just dumb ehsuhshss
Looks at all live chats trying to predict cost of the ts and freaking out at estimates of 180+ for the entire ts tree....how are we all going to be prepared for Days of Rainbow? Is this an ok price because the event will last for the entire month perhaps?
I think we've managed much worse than this. People just like to freak out, it gives them something to do. 🤷♀️
True, just feel this upcoming event might be a shock to candles
Introverts are sooooo happy right now that the friends constellation button doesn't work 
Finally a solo mode 
Im glad i didn't buy the rainbow cape when they announced ts
We all were asking for a private space, tgc said have the whole game to yourself 
at least there's an option to play together, I remember the full single player mode bug in december 
Ppl: we want journey but with friends
sky was created
Ppl: we want single player mode
Tgc: am I a joke to you? 
I don't think the event will last more than a week
YAY THINKING CAPE!!! I’m sitting on 212 candles so I can afford it. Already have Rainbow event finished.
Speaking of single player- would be neat if there was like an offline mode where you can play solo. Or just times when you don’t have wifi but still want to play Sky on the go- 
cries in fav games that I can’t play on the go cause they’re all games that need wifi 
they need to keep track of currencies tho
They need to increase that security as is...
Zen mode.. Not offline. But solo zen mode. Just you and sky world 
That is socially disengaging and against the view they want for sky from previous communication to the players and how they built the current season and quests.
zen mode would be nice 
How would it work with multi player doors? Or would you be happy to chibi glitch?
On the other hand beta is zen mode most of the time
that would be great if we can have some of that on Live too.
To isca: when i choose to be on zen mode I won’t expect to open multiplayer doors
maybe there would be helpful npcs like in the retail demo version 
If I’m in zen mood I would be mostly wandering idly so I wouldn’t be wanting to open every door I guess 
Hello, sorry for the really silly question but I am really off the loop.
I redownloaded the Beta version just recently to check it out and to my pleasant surprise I got a nifty hairstyle and a cool cape.
But I am not sure where I am supposed to go to check the newest content (the game doesn't give you a hint as of right now) and... for some reason half my constellation is gone? Even though the game recognizes I got em I can't interact with them at home.
#beta-known-issues and #beta-announcements are good places with answers to those questions and has more info of what else is wrong and updated
Ah ok nice :D good to see I am not alone on that, it was weird to see them just gone like that.
Final question is, any way to beta test the switch version? It seems you can? Maybe I am missunderstanding the wording
It was a limited opt in closed beta. A lot of us who entered didn't get in. Seems roughly 1300 got in if you go by the switch private discord numbers. (could be higher, but I think one of the prerequisites to stay in the beta is going to the discord for feedback and bug reports.)
You can still merge with switch moths and helping them helps TGC
. I didn't get in either but knowing that I can help makes me feel better 
Thanks for the replies, well gotta keep checking the test
Im excited to play on switch
Still going to send bug report, but wondered if anyone else was having this issue. I click home in the settings menu and it just keeps reopening the settings menu, then when you exit back it lets you choose the check or x to go home.
Never happened to me but I've seen it mentioned somewhere here before 
It happened to me, a few tries and then it would work as intented, it seemed lile it was lagging
Wonder if it’s because of my controller. If they had the same issue and are using controller maybe? I’ll record a clip and send it in a bug report. I will mention I use a controller just in case there is some link.
@grave matrix Oh, do you use a controller or is it possibly just random? It happens to me all the time now and I know I’m not lagging. It’s only in Beta too. Never happened in live.
Started happening to me with the recent beta update. It stopped happening but comes up again every once in awhile.
I am using the touch controls for the game, although I use an Xbox controller on live.
The issue seems to occur when you fiddle/move the camera a bit and then try to return home
It just happens to me without any camera movement. I stop moving completely when I open the settings menu. Weird. So it’s a random bug that we have no clue what triggers it. It’s not a big deal, I just click home, then exit and click confirm now. It’s definitely a bug tho.
I wanted to suggest we gather 8 ppl and put 8 rainbows in home so there are 9 rainbows all over but then I remembered the friends button doesnt work
The guide's rainbow - how the rainbow cape looks.
The player rainbow - how I wish it looked like.
||go test it for yourself you'll see what I mean ||
||or check the screenshots channel I sent a pic there||
Hi guys i have a question. I play beta version of sky on my android, can i play with the same account on nintendo?
If you link your account to nintendo yes
If you're in the Nintendo beta, yes. Just follow the most recent message in #beta-faq
Guys can i ask... can i use my friends switch to buy the links hair and capes... is my acc safe cuz we are close friend
soon™️
There seems to be new update with the FAQs for switch 
It’s not recommended to make purchases on someone else’s device as some very bad things could happen like you lose you’re account 
Is there any speculation about the price of the upcoming ts (probably the thoughtful director)?
@sweet bough, TS prices are not announced until it arrives. Any prices you see before the spirit is in-game is misinformation and should not be shared.
hrngh I uh
the rainbow cape is extortionate
I’m sure a lot of you agree but I don’t know what to say
Im not but i have beta on my phone
U can't play switch beta if u don't get invitation
How can i get the invitation? i havent found anything about how to get one
They had sign up form before (i forgot how long already). But it's closed now. If u never filled the form just wait for Live release in June
Thank you :)
Hello. I have a question and I need help with that. I have been playing in beta for several days, but until now I have not had a rainbow event. Does this mean I have a problem somewhere or what should I do?
you might be on the old build, which does not have the rainbow event.
I see thanks alot
You're a new player?
Yeah 😊
I see 👀
The latest build for mobile beta (which has nintendo pack and rainbow guide) is 167636. U might want to check your app version
If that's the case, we can't really help you as downloads like that are against the Terms of Service
Thank you guys for trying to help I am really grateful
Well is it ok to make speculations based on what we see on the beta amd discuss it?
Like possible outfits, items, hairstyles and such
Speculating what exactly? If it's content that is only available in the beta version, it has to be discussed in the beta channels
If you'd like to make a contribution to the game you can use #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
a
b
have we had a TS since the update?
In beta? No
time for some ts bugs 
BetaWhen does the new season appear?
This is a secret.
Omg imagine tomorrow the ts won’t work

Hmm just another normal day in beta 
we need a veteran chat
Nooooooooooo, i want sparkle mask and its crash when i bought the hair

Sounds something absolutely regular to me
I want sparkle comeback in beta because its not fair to beta players

We are told that in beta we won't be compensated for things like this, this isn't a replacement for live-
The devs can wipe everyone's progress at anytime too.
beta is for testing, so we shouldn't hold on to things here since it all might get wiped someday. as what the person said before me, it's not a replacement for live 
aw no i was talking to a chinese player and then beta crashed bc i was translating too fast and now theyre gone :'(( we were getting along too, trashing on english as a language together :'( 
hey guys just wanna ask if the rainbow trails is visible?
The spells aren't working for now
this happens to me every time i try to go home in beta, and sometimes in live too 
no controller, no camera movement btw
Weird, it wasn’t doing it to me today suddenly so I have no idea what is causing it. Never had it happen before the Beta update. Maybe it is a lag issue.
might be an android only thing? doesn't happen to me on my ipad
weird D:
Yeah, I have no idea. I have to wonder if the lagging thing is possible considering I had lag issues on my iPhone yesterday and that was the day it was happening. It didn’t seem to be lagging when it happened, but maybe it was and I just didn’t notice because it was so subtle at first.
I’m having this in iPhone too
hmm not sure... I only lag sometimes when loading new areas the first time, my game/internet is stable 
I guess it might even be multiple different things causing it?
I'm not using a controller, but it's happening on my iPhone, and I've already reported it. I've been looking for the trigger that causes the phenomenon ever since I noticed it, but I haven't found it yet.
I was actually experienced that bug since the update but I though everyone was having it lmao
considering the near 70% crash rate for mobile, beta is pretty unstable right now, but it is stable enough to accomplish crossplay with switch testing. please be patient with us 
yeah it's okay for beta to be taking a while we understand, I was more discussing this because it's happening to me in live too
No worries, ktjn, it’s not like it would be a bug that would make people want to quit. It’s pretty mild. Just curious as to what caused it or if others were experiencing it too.
Bruh, good luck to u devs cuz I don’t think it’s easy having to launch Sky to a new platform and also making content for the new season. Hope y’all are doing okay
And don’t forget the new event! They’ve also been making content for the new event + that use case they were planning for the assembly props
Like so many things to do all at once 😭
the team is a little bigger these days so the folks working on season and holiday stuff usually aren't the main folks working on switch, though there is some overlap at times.
We'll have heaps of fun (we hope) and interesting stuff in the next update 
I see it's not chaos this time
Is it confirmed that the Nintendo switch platform hasn't merge with the beta for mobiles right now? I thought beta is available for all 3 platforms already since the official switch beta test was announced a few days ago
Interesting

Switch players can join mobile players, even though they are on different versions. It's just a bit tricky right now, mainly because the constellation isn't working.
A small unrelated question:when I first installed beta,my skykid had the pointing candle makers hair instead of the usual beginner's hair. Was that intentional?
i'd have to look at your specific account to see what happened, but everyone should start off with the same default moth outfit 
The beta update comes this week am i right ?
i see you haven't read #beta-announcements
Ahh thank you! I was chatting in prarie yesterday and a player said switch hasn't merge platforms with our current beta yet and I got confused. Thanks for the reply!
Ah, I'll read it again. Thanks
crossplay is currently functioning on beta between switch and mobile. like belpita mentioned, some outstanding mobile bugs make it hard for players to actively join one another. on a positive note, the server/networking part of things is running smoothly which is the most important aspect.
I think Switch players' cosmetics are invisible, though? Or certain seasonal ones? Someone mentioned that yesterday.
Older build cant see the Nintendo pack cosmetics, so looking from that side everyone wearing them are bald and capeless
normally we force folks to update to the latest build after a day or so, but we didn't this time for the switch matchmaking. it's possible some folks haven't updated in over a month and that may be a contributing factor.
Is the bug reporting for android reaction gone for anyone else?
You can use #report-a-live-bug instead. Just reply to the questions with beta and Android and the report will end up in the correct place.
Okie! Thanks!
What do you mean by crossplay?
Some iOS users downgraded as well to merge easily with others. But apart from some specific areas, we can still merge with other friends with some effort 
Crossplay across platforms
I meant what is crossplay, sorry Google is being confusing with the definition. Like do you mean playing sky on different types of devices?
Crossplay means that players on all platforms can play together.
Is anyone can't go to the friend constellation?
So like Nintendo playing with someone on mobile?
yep!
always check #beta-known-issues first to see what issues are common among players 
Ktjin, what do you say is your personal favorite season in sky so far?
hard to say, i don't know that i have a favourite, because i love each for different reasons.
Season of bug reports 
that's every season 
True

Haha whst do you love the most then? XD I’ve been loving enchantment for entirely nostalgia reasons but also love the barren feel of it too in ways I can’t explain XD
Actually ktjn's favorite season is fall because of days of mischief, all the tgc staff get to freely roam around office. 
That's right, days of mischief is the one time ktjn's 3 krills finally get to roam freely without the confines of their trenchcoat 
Hahaha 🤣
If current season is approximate 30 days left and june is days of rainbow and june also Nintendo Switch Release
. Nintendo Switch Release probably will on that day the season ends and also Days of Rainbow event starts.
If so, the event would start on June 14 and many people would have that bonus that seasonal candles give by turning white. I think it would be the ideal scenario
I think last second that if the Nintendo Switch and Days of rainbow in same day it will obviously unfair to the New Nintendo Switch player
Why do you think that would ne unfair?
Because the new players won’t have any orange candles that transfer into white ones?
That and also new Nintendo players might not have enough time to save up candles I guess
I noticed that the krills won't shine their blue light on me and will just immediately spot me in beta. Should I report that as a bug?
Days of rainbow could last a month though? As it is pride “Month” thats the only reason i can find that justifies the 175 candle price
That’s a good point, but I think events were newer catered to super new players. I missed season of Belonging completely except for the emotes, because I didn't understand anything when I started.
(Edit: In reply to Emma btw)
That bug has been existing for quite a while now, and not just on beta. But you can bug report it anyway
i know it sounds dumb but r we allowed to give feedback on the switch beta even if we dont participate? i heard some stuff abt that makes me worry and i wanna give feedback so it gets addressed (if it hasnt been alraedy)
You certainly can, just write it in #beta-feedback
As far as I understand, both beta players and non-beta players can give feedbacks on beta features, as long as they understand the rules and give constructive comments
I asked this a year ago when I wasn’t in beta and the answer I got was that it’s best not to, when you’re not part of beta, because you can’t really test the things yourself. Also I suppose if it’s really something worrying, enough people in beta will have given feedback about it already 
say fellas wots the prices then eh
xD i was told the beta have the TS today so they can see prices already
@shy plover, TS prices are not announced until it arrives. Any prices you see before the spirit is in-game is misinformation and should not be shared.
we don't get ts early
ok i see, well ill wait till the next update and see if anything has changed (regarding my concerns) 
there's liars in genchat keep ur eyes peeled
I think that’s a good solution! 
live and beta have same ts, same time
Do you think they will send a notification to explain what events and seasons are/how they work to new accounts with Switch? Now that they have the inbox ? Would that help get new players up to speed who aren't following other media?
Ohhh that might be a nice idea actually. Although I think Sky loses some of its magic and exploration factor, if they start explaining everything 
I would say there are misinformed players in genchat, not liars. A lot of them don't understand the nuances of beta.
Not because of Sesonal candles covert to white one's is because New Moth Nintendo Switch Player don't have many candles on that time. To counter that TGC should make double candle cake event on launch and after 1 week they release the Days of Rainbow Event. So New Moth Nintendo Switch player will have that candle to get the cape. Also reduce the price slightly to not let New Nintendo Switch player depress when grinding

Double candle cake event only makes Forging certain amount of candles faster with daily light system, but doesnt add much to the collectable maximum amount.
Yeah, depending on your route, double candle cake would yield at most 2 extra candles, and that's if you only aim to get 10 candles a day. if you CR more, the double cake event would yield less total.
unpopular opinion: daily cakes shouldnt count towards the daily light
that way double daily cake events would still be useful and relevant
Ah I understand what you mean now, thank you! Although, again, I do think this event might now be catered to moths
But we don’t know, I suppose if it runs for a month it’s doable even for moths.
(As I side note: I agree that the cape is too expensive
)
Instead of a double cake event, what if they made the Daily Light wax per candle be handled server side instead of client, so they can do an "increased light accumulation" event. I.E. less wax required to forge candles without the need to make an update client side.
also i dont get why all the trails r just spells, wouldnt it be smarter to make it like an addon for capes? like smth u can equip in the capes closet
idk why they went with spells
but also im not sure if this has been discussed/suggested already
With the age of a live services game that uses a currency, you need what's call "money sinks." I'd rather have random spells to drain candles than a 175 candle cape...
You only need one of the capes, but they are from the same pack. Think of it like the "Nintendo Office without wax."
thats not what I meant. You need another friend who has switch and purchased the 30 dollars pack. To open the barrier,but shouldn’t events be for everyone playing? Otherwise it’s not even an event
its not an event though ?? :O its just to celebrate switch's release..? its not an official event like days of rainbow/bloom etc..
The switch pack should be permanent. It is the Switch version of the Office, pretty much. Not a limited event. Might as well ask why the office is locked behind a $30 purchase also....
i'd say office is even more "unfair" because theres actual wax you can collect there lol. what's the benefit to the switch playground? its.... uh... a good spot for losing wings i guess?
All Nintendo Switch games that are multi-platform have a "unique cosmetic." Just look at any other game that had a late Switch release, like Fortnite, Among Us, etc. It's part of Nintendo's terms to use their platform.
Yeah there is like 2% of Eden down there, you can lose wings. The space is very little too
I’m not sure what you mean by unfair? It’s a permanent feature, has nothing to offer and you can get in with a friend easily, without owning the capes.
if its anything like the office it'll open up during other events, im sure.
we might get an NPC thats gonna let us in every once in a while. 
having occasional events where people without the switch cape are let into the playground definetley sounds fun! honestly excited to see what tgc do with it
Black or white 2 tier cape, afterall?
i did not expect that

IM REALLY SCARED THAT IF I USE MY FRIENDS SWITCH TO BUY THE SWITCH PACK MY ACCOUNT MIGHT TRANSFER ALL THE STUFF INTO HIS ACC LIKE WHAT HAPPEN TO ONE PLAYER BEFORE .. WHEN SHE USED HER FRIENDS GADGET TO BUY THE IAP CAPE CUZ SHE CANT BUY IT IN HER OWN DEVICE CUZ OF SOME SORT OF ERROR SO THE RESULT ALL THE STUFF OF HER ACC TRANSFERED TO HER FRIENDS ACC ... SO SCARY I MIGHT WAIT TILL SOMEONE DONE IT AND IF IT DONT HAPPEN LIKE THIS ID DEF GONNA BUY SWITCH PACK THRU MY FRIENDS SWITCH... HEHE
i wish tgc notice this :((
If u want TGC to notice u can give feedback to them... No need to scream all caps here....?
done sorry caps cuz i cant see clearly
I can't really imagine TGC supporting that kind of usage, because I can't imagine Nintendo themselves approving of someone using the eShop when they don't actually own a Switch to access it
Hi, I just downloaded beta sky on my switch and I linked my Nintendo acc with my phone.
However when I open sky on switch, the create new character page still pops out. Any ideas how can I solve this problem?
@static furnace, read about requirements to join the Switch Beta here: http://bit.ly/SkySwitchBeta
I'm not entirely sure but apparently people who got into switch beta also got a link to a switch beta discord in the email they received. It might be better to ask switch related questions there 
Am i the only one who thinks the cape is not all that, like its overpriced and idk if its just because of the star design on the cape are rainbows(this is my opinion dont bash me pls) 😭
Not just u. There's been many discussions about it here. Just make sure to give ur opinion in #beta-feedback so TGC can read that.
but i dont want tgc to feel sad or anything my opinion sounded mean
If you write constructively it doesn’t sound mean, it’s all about phrasing it right
But just because you don’t like a new item doesn’t mean you’re mean
TGC appreciates negative feedback just as much

thats sweet
i also thought im the only that think the cape price doesnt suit (˘̩̩̩ε˘̩ƪ)
sky bot im not asking about TS price
@finite inlet, TS prices are not announced until it arrives. Any prices you see before the spirit is in-game is misinformation and should not be shared.
the rainbow cape is pretty
really expensive tho 
I think so too. It’s too expensive for almost people.
i think it should be lowered to 90 or 100, because if it comes on live as it is, it's gonna be as expensive as juggle (apparently)
/hey what does the spirits being more personal when interacting means?
haven't noticed any differences myself?
We don't know, it's possibly bugged, just like the rest of this build
Also I need to do eden if the Director cape is locked behind a wingbuff-
i think the cosmetics are usually behind the wing buff by trend, you're best off having some AC prepared
2 ascended candles should be enough
Yeah I just need to do one eden run since I have no ascended candles
Time to test the eden bugs then...
Wonder how eden will look on the switch 
I went oob there already but still
I'm currently thinking about a friend of mine that thought the switch playground is the new home for switch users. Then proceeded to complain that it's inaccessible for mobile players 
How many days left before the Rainbow event ends? I still need the hearts for the Tassel. Im broke 
Idk if i can check it in game-
6 days says the boat, it's all beta though so 
Usually events last until the boat disappears, may change 
I think there will be an update for the event, as soon as TGC are able to.
Imagine having progress wipe after buying T2 Black or T2 White

Some of us had all our progress wiped... 😉
I'll wait for the beta update before hurrying to get hearts.
Im thinking it'll be extended tho so luck may be on our side
hey guys!where can get beta?
There isn't any beta invite waves right now 
Recently? Or during lightseekers testing?
ok thanks
Way back before iOS release. Don't worry. It was more to say: Don't get too attached to things in beta. 🙂
Ah, I got confused for a moment. At least there hasn't been any progress wipes since then 
But who knows when the next is 
Could be tomorrow for all we know 
Would be fun testing the rainbow cosmetics with 0 candles 
Honestly, I was a little surprised the new daily light system didn't come with at least a candle wipe in beta.
Such is Beta 
Ngl, I really thought everytime there's new season to test it comes with progress wipe.
I think daily light and dreams invites started around the same time so they probably had enough fresh starters to see how it affects them. (And umbrella spirit came at the same time so i bet a lot of us were broke anyways
)
It used to come with access wipes. In which you had to rejoin in a invite wave, but it changed because google changed their policies
Yeah, us android testers can't be removed from inactivity, we can only manually leave
Ohh, I see.
All the dreams testers got lucky

What do you need help with?
They can't update beta ^^
I want to update sky beta from Google, but I can't.
What's your build number?
Go to app settings for sky and scroll down to the bottom there will be a number at the very bottom
if you are on Android
The number after that
No, the build number within parenthesis.
Have 6 numbers
The latest version is 0.13.3 with build number (167636) if you have the same build number then you are on the latest build. There's no further update rn.
Its 165936
When did you join and how?
My friend sent it to me, but I didn't know how to update it.
Do you mean that you didn't originally download beta from the PlayStore?
wonder if android possible install back previous patch instead of latest patch like iOS 
Nope it’s not possible without breaking tos as far as I know
Yes, I didn't download it from Google play
Can i ask questions from beta even if im in live? Its about the Nintendo version,,
Then I'm sorry, but we can't help you. It's against the Terms of Service to download any version of the game from a third party. Not to mention, probably not a good idea for your own safety.
I'd suggest read the switch faq linked in #news. Aslo this chat is for mobile beta. We don't have info about switch beta other than the faq
Oh If I broke the system, I'm sorry, I didn't know.
I see- but what i wanted to ask was: if cross-play was allowed,,
Tysm guys 
It is!
U might wanna check the FAQs about switch in #news like yash said. It's very informative!
You didn't break the system. But you did something that is against the rules of the game. Downloading a copy of any game from a source that is not official is never allowed and can land you trouble both in the game and outside of it. Please be careful out there. 🙂
Oh How do I get the right links?I hear it's here.
To be honest, I would recommend downloading the live release of the game instead. Beta is only a testing ground and not early access. You get much more out of the real version.
Beta isn't fun either 
Ok thanks I was hoping to download it thanks for your help☺️
It can be fun, if you like:
- crashes
- bugs
- confusion
- losing cosmetics/currency.

- unable to meet friend 👀
my favorite beta perk is confusion
My favorite thing in beta is that i don't have to worry about how much candles i have 
Please know I've wasted your time, but I have one last request where I can find the links if I find them.
I ate it 
☺️
You could check the :
Google play store ( Android ),
Apple store ( iOS ),
For live versions of the game
For beta, go to #beta-faq
Favorite thing in Beta is I appreciate "mothy" outfits 
Aeras was right about the anti aliasing issue, it did get worse 
it's been getting progressively worse since sanctuary
i used to have nice screenshots. and it's only snapdragon. exynis androids are fine
My favorite beta perk is floor is lava
I read that as Java 
Same
I see you two are people of programming culture 😎
same but my brain went to coffee
my brain went to minecraft java
I’m excited for the TS bugs tonight 🤣🤣 guys what if we get another game is corrupt error
that error genuinely spooked me
if we do im gonna tap all ap locked items at once to break it more
it's not april 1st, nothing like that will happen
/j
Sparkle in beta was like : you wanna my mask ? No bro, take this error screen 
Beta got the April fools ts 
Don't jinx it

If the bugged ts is jelly I'm gonna scream
Alright alright, I’m not gonna jinx the spirit, I’m still excited for the new Update next week, since there’s still a week left, in live we’d be down to the 20s for number of days left in assembly
Maybe the update will also have the new season! 😃
Oh ok, but have you thought what if the game corrupt bug comes back 
/The whole game data corrupt thing with TSes should already be resolved, right ?
I wouldn't be too sad if it happened again, but then that means I have to skip an item. I'd be remotely sad if that item turns out to be the xylophone 
the bug should be taken care of, sparkler sacrificed themselves for the fix 
This stranger in beta just add me for trade, she then offered me hand and i totally forgot that it bugged and accept it, my game crashed after 
I've had that happen too many times 
that just happened to me
after crashing we spammed giggle and they crashed soon after
Time flies...we are down to 20 days live already??? Wow
I think they meant we will be in the 20s by next week 
Voi were you by any chance the one who was wearing a bull mask, with a white cape, rythmn piano and welcome pants? And you ended up coming with this person to dreams?
Omgggg hahaha I totally forgot about eh hand crash and figured I could share my birdie cape spell with you XD hahaha, then ended up crashing haha
yes I was
nice to meet you! lmao I forgot about the crash totally and lowkey thought you were just pranking me
what was I supposed to do with the capes?
Hahaha I saw that you had all 11 wings XD and wanted to see what the rainbow cape looked like on someone with 11 wings hahahha
I figured you probably didn’t have enough candles when you went through your wardrobe or didn’t get it yet cause spell bug
The biggest challenge in sky is trying to convey something with the emotes XD I feel I always come across as a petulant child hahaha
I haven't bought it yet
it's really cute! yep, not touching those spells yet
I miss hand holding in beta so much rip ;-; never knew how much I needed/loved that feature until it’s gone

that's the struggle yep, I feel powerless with somone spamming lvl6 cry
yep that's why I ususally run in the old build rn, blessed handhold
its almost like its a core aspect of gameplay 
It’s like your non dominant hand — it’s always there supporting everything your dominant hand does, but when you actually end up hurting it (cough cough COVID vaccine).. you realize just how much it’s been there for you

Exactly
So so far I accidentally met and befriended kai and Voi XD wonder when I’ll get to meet noobmode and nastymold 😂
always nice to meet discord folks in beta! I usually don't have high hopes when someone lights me

Now that I think about it I'm friends with quite a few people who are active in #seasons-events-chat in live, hopefully I'll eventually friend everyone I know in this server 
Just asking but by chance were u on the ark meditating? 
Me? XD I’m always in the ark doing other stuff... 👀 mostly afk-ing haha cause ark music is soo pretty 😢🥺
gib qr 
Just realized I probably need 3 hearts in order to get the Director cape, time to do earth and air trials I guess 
You guys get ts in beta?
It is, I was there a couple of minutes ago and it there was a bunch of folks 
Is the TS will come early on beta?
ts comes the same time as live on beta
except for that one week or two where we got ts after ts with no stop 
Game Center is down for me, anyone on iOS able to access beta?
Hmmm okay interesting, Game Center isn’t working for me still, but I can login with my gmail
playing rn
The sanctuary TSs 👁
Or maybe don't come to beta at all 
Which Sanctuary TSs came for testing btw? I think Jelly was one of them
Jelly and belly scratch
belly scratch was supposed to be skipped but they're too lazy to change plans like that 
Hopefully Jelly becomes a ts in live soon 
It’ll come back when we leadt expect it to, honestly wasn’t expecting director to come this week.. was thinking maybe earmuffs or shush scholar would show up
RNG gods have been extremely nice this time
I also want to chance meet some of you guys. 
I'd love to befriend some people. But it's really hard with the new build huh 
Indeed. Rallying Thrillseeker, who is my all time favorite spirit, was a blessing. I screamed out of sheer joy, almost cried, couldn't even calm down from the excitement. Now, there's Thoughtful Director, my 5th favorite spirit 
Hopefully RNG gives us another spirit from my top 10
I'd love to be able to meet people from here, I keep meeting people that got into beta illegally 
by apks? I see..
Same
if anyone wants frens in beta just send me dm 
I tend to pass through Prairie social quite a lot and well, it's not often I see someone who has older cosmetics that I trust to have been earned while actually testing that season.
@opaque swan bruh you know downloading APKs is against the Terms of Service, right? It could cause a lot of performance, account and malware issues for you. Trying to use APKs will result in download problems and may result in account data loss and inability to contact TGC support. APKs cannot be used to bypass the device incompatibility and do not help TGC with beta testing at all. Please don't use them or discuss them here.
I got my answer with a big ping I didn't mean to get into trouble I'm sorry 
Surprised it didn't react to the earlier message lol, but it's okay just try not to really mention that sort of thing here. It's against the Terms of Service so we're not really supposed to talk about it, just report and move on if you encounter anyone in the game doing such things 
On the topic of that, It's amusing the length people will go to have owl hair and Lightseekers ult umbrella, to the point of risking of making their devices a overpriced paperweight 
Okay so has anyone bought the elf hair and the ocarina in switch and then used the same account back on your phone..
the switch doesn't have the pack yet since it's a build behind, so no one has been able to purchase it
I don't think it's available on Switch yet.
Same ;-; every time I meet someone in beta these days they start speaking to me in Chinese Q-Q I end up wishing I knew Chinese so I didn’t have to pull out the translator every 2 seconds ;-;
I kind o wish the translator auto translated the lines with the option to revert individual ones
And it's also available on mobile for testing since it's beta! If you are wondering if it's possible to buy it on the Switch and have it on mobile when the game launches in Live though, the devs confirmed it is
Only purchased currency will be non-transferable
i know how to read and write a bit of chinese, but since i can't get the entire context i end up squinting at the message for a minute before giving up and using the translator 
Thanks so much ....anyone got the beta link for switch?
Check the pins for more info!
You had to sign up when a form was open and be randomly selected to join the Switch beta
its supposed to be possible, but we gotta test it just to make sure when we get an update 
The translator is built into the chat. I find it works quite well. I've only occasionally had some people question why I understand them, but reply in English... 
Guys, I’m ready to be “Le petit Ende”

I told myself I wouldn’t use the director cape spells we got a while back until director came back XD haha and now I’m using them all up
Question... What does the little heart over a player means?
It means they are a new player. It's part of the shepherd system, which you can normally access top right from your constellation.
I remember at the start of the rainbow event I had 600 candles in beta.. I’m slowly realizing the ts and rainbow have been depleting my inventory... my poor candles 🕯
SAME, I’m now in 300
Need to cr in beta again
I'm holding at 1k before DoR or ts spending 
you all have hundreds of candles in beta while i'm barely holding onto 120 
you guys have candles 
Hardly
Those massive seasonal converts helped a ton
These are the times when i look back and regret procrastinating on collecting those seasonal candles
but it's beta so-
i have uh, 4 candles 
What does this mean? 🤔
Cheating / Hacking. It isn't wise to get APKs. ignoring the fact that it's against TOS, it can brick your device
Honestly I have a feeling one day we’ll get hairs similar to the ults from rhythm.. we already got a season of dark masks that arguably feel better for me than the rhythm ult ><
I’m just waiting for a v-shaped bangs hairstyle now 👀 and I won’t long for the rythmn ult hair anymore
no doubt there will be at least another ult hair down the road
isn't the pot an ultimate hair already?
its under the hair category but I more meant actual hair haha
Went through Eden for the ts, got stuck for a while and now I just hate orbit.. I need a skip button for all the stuff after you die and hug that kid
personally the long journey from eden to orbit and back to home never bothered me considering you do it once a week
I wonder about those who farm Eden daily... 
That makes no sense... gain nothing by doing that.
Candol
The second part of Ascent resets daily, you can farm about 2.5 (regular) candles from it
a candle is a candle
(insert that incredibles meme)
I go through Eden almost once a month unless I splurged all my ascended candles on resize potions haha and I still find the journey tedious
I feel personally the more times I go through Eden’s orbit, the less impactful the overall message of Eden becomes to me.. I end up thinking ‘my gosh be done alreadyyyy’

well thats literally any piece of art/book/movie
some may be ingrained longer some don't
what I dont like about eden is having to go back and collect my WL again, so I dont do it often in live 
especially after the trials were added 
I’d argue it’s not the same for the rest of sky though, because there’s always at least one element that’s variable. For Eden, the route, the look and the sentiment you need to feel are all pre defined for you
Sighh, that makes orbit generally boring because there’s no way to escape the route it sets for you... the same reason why I personally avoid doing the valley races, the flying one especially
i've gotten enough wing buffs in beta to start with 8 wedges right out of eden. 
yeah but I'm too used to having 11 wedges now 
8 wedges... respect!
just take it as doing work or a time cost lol
Yay maintenance
2 hours 
maintenance in 2 days!
Oh server maintenance heh
I can sense something big will happen 
RIP beta 
There goes beta
Updateeee

ik it's not a update but atleast we got something 
lmao
No more beta for 2 hours
but maintenance

Man people be gettin my hopes up for maintenance 
2h no beta ?!
I can live with that actually 
Beta was already unplayable anyways... the core elements literally crashes the game except doing a cr
maintenance 
Hahaha heyyy the chats alive againnn boy this was the first time I was so excited for maintenance e
maintenance is not happening right now. it's happening on friday, so we can still play until then. 
I like how everyone immediately came from gen chat to beta chat 
Oh wait my phone's going to die but i have a meme idea
wish me luck

man this chat really lives off of beta update pings huh
got excited for a moment
Remember the last time we had maintenance guyS? During season of dreams? Just when they pushed an update to unlock the area and we were all just enjoying it an d boooommm maintenance
Beta update ping discussion 
I live of whatever happens here, memes and updates, it's pretty fun 
same

Okie back to gen chat 

watch after the maintenance beta breaks even more
I was like:
WHAT BETA UP-tenance
Can anyone tell me where to find that secret playground?
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
at least when there's an actual update, we know that beta will be ready, seeing how fast everyone showed up for the ping 
📱 iOS/Android: To join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
🍄 Switch: Sign-ups for beta are closed. You can read more about the Switch Beta here: http://bit.ly/SkySwitchBeta
wasteland social area! Just go around the back past the pants area (I can send a video since I suck at explaining
)
Naw. I’ll find it
okiee thank you!
updates channel is awake! but it's only to tell us beta will be extra dead for two hours 
More break for you Voi 
Some news is still nice
I wonder if the switch version will be updating too?
Hmmm is that the nastymold?

let's hope all platforms will get the actual days of rainbow/nintendo build for testing soon 
the update is probably being held off to get all platforms in sync
at least that’s my guess. until then: bugs galore for everyone 
gonna go crash like. 15 times brb
wakes up from break due to beta update ping Oh, nothing to see here, time to hibernate more. 
I just realized that timeframe is like exactly when I normally play. guess friday is a live only day 
sskybot plea se
every time I walk away there’s a skybot comment right after my message 
New emoji? Nice addition to my collection 

Hahaha, this picture again.
I like how there's 2 different shut emojis
three
We do be bullying skybot

The haha lit emoji always makes me go 
dw skybot we still love you. it’s affectionate bullying 
skybot is cool 
wait so when skybot bully Cake, is that affectionate bullying?
skybot ripped into reality when
like instead of the image being posted they just walk up to you, slam a sticker of it on you, then walk away
skybot already has, wdym? 
Would you like to talk about our Lord and savior megabird?
lol watch ThatSkyShop sell stickers of beta memes next 
What about megan
@static saffron who? 
i call the office npc skybot because i don't know what else to call them 
i would buy those stickers
all love for skybot 
Hi everybody! Sorry to bother, I was wondering if there’s information about how long the Days of Rainbow will last
it's in the blog post iirc
yes 
not yet. we don't even have a release date yet 
Skybot doesn't recognize that false God you named 
XWJGAFXJJAGXJGXAISIGX 




skybot didn't watch all of credits
how could you skip the amazing music 
pakka I love your art in #beta-screenshots-videos ! poor android snapdragon screenshots getting called out even though it’s a live problem too
I can;t imagine how frustrating it is to type a message in switch hahaha
i dont even wanna know how you type on switch if it minimizes the game
omg pakka
the struggles of every platform in beta rn, i love it
you don’t type on switch, you beep frantically and hope the other person understands
half the switch players can’t open emote menu without crashing their games either so if you see interpretive beeping: probably a switch player
i'm waiting for people that talk via piano 
I have a feeling cake will appear out of nowhere if you mention talking through instruments 
why cake? 
I do want to eat cake tho 
Pakka’s drawing is amazing
Today I crashed when someone warped to a player near me. I wasn’t even involved
I’m enjoying bugs in another level 
Just looking at the screen was enough for you to crash today 
this is beta at it's finest! 
Im on android beta and my screenshots seem to be fine what's the problem?
hhhh it looks like A Short Hike, I want to play like this so bad 
Your phone probably is not a snapdragon one. Mine has helio and screenshots are fine.
My screenshots in both beta and live always come out pixely... 
Minecraft graphic for snapdragon

yeah, only androids that run snapdragon are affected by the poor quality screenshots
at least minecraft has sharp edges rather than blurry or choppy ones
my android is below the suggested quality, but I can play it just fine except for occasional lag, and my graphics can look near iOS
in live I mean
Ok wait. So when I take a screenshot and send it through somewhere only then it becomes pixelated? Check #beta-screenshots-videos and pls tell me what u see
I edit the image I thought it was obvious - the snapdragon has chonky light while I only add jpeg
#beta-screenshots-videos message
here's my post that shows what the issue is. its the in game camera that's the problem. it only shows on devices that use snapdragon, so if you aren't seeing it, then you've got an android that runs on something else, like exynos
I wonder if the new prompt for burning plants is an something for some future future quest/seasonal activity 👀 I ended up running into in priarie when trying to melt the plants
I think its a bug. Update notes said its fixed but its just came with this build instead
. I mean i never saw it in older builds.
bugs are sneaky, sometimes they get fixed but when it update they break free again
hence how the start of dreams in live was so buggy
Is the Nintendo themed cosmetics going to be iaps on the switch
Darn, I only want the elf hair, everything else makes it too expensive
Do you know which channel I can get the test qualification on then?I forgot after I got the qualification last time😫
that's a bad idea. my time will be waiting from 1 to 3 am
my country i mean
Isn't it nice for maintenance to happen at your sneep snorp time tho?
Sleep through the maintenance...? 
what is sleep 
I believe it's an anagram
Testing time
maintenance doesn't mean bugs will be fixed. for players, nothing will appear to have changed. Please please PLEASE do not lose sleep over server maintenance.
Server maintenance usually means back end updates, like security patches, kernel updates, OS updates, etc. Anything that would require the server to reboot or be down for a given amount of time. It wouldn't be end user noticeable changes. Think of what happens when you get windows updates, or OS updates for your phone. Same concept: after the update happens, you need to "reboot" for changes to take effect. This is just on a larger scale machine built to handle thousands of user requests instantly, so their "reboot" process takes a little longer. (Reboot in quotes, because it is more than that for a server, there are cache flushes, rebuilds and other stuff needed to be done during the process.) 
Kind of think of it as oiling the gears in an old clock.. the functionality of the clock doesn’t differ just its performance ;)
Or changing the oil in your car. Nothing noticeable at all, but it needs to be done or your engine can seize.
@vapid briar I had a question for you, sorry if this was already answered somewhere. QAQ I wondered if the items from Quest Giver will remain on the tree once season ends. Like the Pillow, Pot, Tent, Bookshelf, etc. Will they be unavailable once season ends or will we be able to buy them any time after season is over like we can the hearts on their trees?
Judging from the items position in the Questgivers tree, it'll stay after season
They are non-seasonal items and will stay. We can see it in beta already since the season ended and the QG is still there.
if you check right now, you can see that the items are still there after the season ended
I already bought them on Beta so I wasn't sure if they would still be buyable or not. That just means I can save those candles for now and just focus on the Rainbow Event Cost in Live. QAQ Thank heavens.
They would've disappeared if they're not buyable ig
looks like some folks beat me to it, but yes those items will remain after the season ends 
Just like heart's that need candles after the season ends. Why I didn't finsh the the sanctuary Island quest before the change happened?
Happy
this has almost certainly answered but the switch pack is just orange cape pack 2 right
like its not limited time in the same way orange cape pack isnt limited time
What do you have planned that you're giving us a permanent portable recharge

Is the trail spell fixed? I just saw someone with it
Lmao I was wondering the same thing. I saw some one walk up to me with an eerie green glow to them and when they flew, their trail was green
the trails are still bugged, so until we get an update, please report those players 
Thanks
not yet, please report players with those. 
no more bonfire overpowered yada requests at least
I would like to ask if the Nintendo Switch version is buyable (game card) or is it free to download?
👀 
Lemme see
#beta-screenshots-videos 
My phone totally didn't die and then i totally didn't sneep 
U might wanna checkout switch FAQs in the #news 
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
You guys know where the meditation in Ark is?
The lantern is already op
Could anyone collect the ts?
yes 
I can't collect him! 😭
Welp so ts it’s bugged
I’m so sad y’all
Yepp i tried to visit 3 times in a row. But only the spirit yellow inner light showed up
Ts no work 😭
We can't report the bug this time
Me too
and we aren’t going to have a update for now prob next week so bye bye ts
ts is bugged-- so many people are waiting here ;-;
Oh no, who said that what if the ts is bugged 
totally wasn't me 
Oh, well. At least it's working in Live. 🙂
But hey, I don't think its one of the purposes of beta to get this traveler. And in live apparently ts works very well.I don't think it is TGC's priority to fix this bug
Oops sorry guys I jinxed it
Damn beta do be crying in the vaults right now
man 
It could be true, but again if someone take care of beta, that person wants to upgrade his/her avatar... We still normal human being with desires.
that may be, but progress in beta can be wiped at any time at the dev's discretion, so it's really not worth it to get attached to cosmetics in beta
im broke in live,, the only way i can get the ts' items is through beta 
I wouldn't expect a fix for this ts, tgc is most likely prioritizing the switch and whatever update is supposed to come next week
Please don't focus on collecting cosmetics in beta. Try to see it as added bonus only. 
ts works in the earlier build
Still sad vibes ://
We can't report the bug for now as well.
Exactly
pain
Cries on Android
i think sparkler ts was also broken in beta, it just be like that sometimes 
Ok. I don't know why are you telling me that. 
aww, this was the only TS i bothered running eden for the ascended candles for, lol. thats too bad
I’m using version 0.13.3 (167636) to relive the ts recently with the other 6 players and it worked just now
Hmmm interesting, I’m going to experiment with an older build let me see if it works... I’m gonna try 165936
Imma try that, also maybe if someone it’s in the earlier version we can relive it?
How to downgrade everyone pls im desperate now
I think it's only for IOS
aaaaa lucky
maybe if you have someone on the older build triggering the circle for you? let's work through our options here
Older build works but if anyone on newer wants to try if we can make it work together let me know 
Cries in android*
I'm gonna head back to Vault later on. I've got my return point set to Vault after the 4 player door in 1st floor opened
this is the spirit of altruism... unity of the community due to bugs 😌
Someone can get the ancestors of travel
Mine’s at 50% download now will let you guys know once it’s done
I'm on Android qwq but hopefully I can server merge with one of y'all with the older build
someone let me know if the ts can be relived now-
possibly. there were many people at once
Let me know if the TS can be relived in the latest build. I've got my return point set to Vault so I won't have to worry
just confirmed, if you have someone on the older build trigger the spirit someone on the new build can collect it
how do yall arrange meeting? we can’t access the constellation
just wait for a merge inside vault
:v
What is older build ?
0.13.3 (165936)
Ive trying to appear in your server with not chance, sad noises
And older build can access constellation so if you have a friend there ask them to join you. Use airplane mode for a few seconds then turn the wifi back on that helped me to merge a lot of times.
I'm chilling on the first floor rn
Thank uuuu I’ll try thattttt
Or the 8 player puzzle

I’m on the old build now anyone want to come? ;’D
@spark lance in iOS you just need to go to TestFlight look at older versions and download the previous ones
How can we downgrade to the older built in beta i saw ppl having that cape 
I have the cape since the season was active. I'm sure others do also. It's not always from this TS.
🥲
Is anyone able to get the ts or is it just me?
me!
It's bugged due to the darkness plant bug, i think 😔
Dang, oh well
i cant get the ts either 🥲
I'm on the older build so I can trigger it for people, just dm me
Voi I’ll tp to you if you’re online
i'll honk to death wait
YAY I GET IT THX TO VOI

Same as Voi feel free to send me a qr if you need help with the ts
I got it with someone who had 2 account (what isnt too legal but in this case iam very happy for her)
It works in live the ts
I was able to collect spirit separately for newer and older build. I don’t think it’s bugged for me. It just seemed like I can’t light the spirit but when I followed the path, I was able to catch someone who was already living the memories. Or you can just wait there for them to finish so spirit returns the beginning and you can light it afterwards.
Is it gonna be fixed or we have to rely on people with older builds?
ts bugs are not prioritised in beta usually, and the devs are focused on the switch release at the moment, so it's unlikely they'd stop that to fix this
Yay got it thanks to Voi too XD
Before when you are on the older bulid the game just doesn't want to let you in and prompt to Google Play to update ?
There are 5 people here and 4 of them glitched through 🤡
We have 8 and 5 glitched in
p.s.: I can help with old build
most people i encounter in beta have chibi mask and/or table 
Anyone helping with old build 
Guys I saw some people taking a traveling Spirit... How did they do it?
Who's on ATM. On the new build looking for ts
I don't see Ts. Can you see it?
Hi guys!
Is it a bug or am the only one who can't relieve the ts?
Ktjn said he wasn't forcing an update because it's important to check cross-play with Switch this time around.
#beta-discussion message 
But its a bug on switch too.... It has to be fixed... I guess we can say they wont fix it now but later they should...

switch is also in beta. the ts works in live, beta just has this bug sometimes (see: sparkler spirit, same thing)
I downgraded the game but it says tap to upgrade
? downgrading a build is common practice, testflight allows it for a reason
If i downgrade beta will i lose my rainbow cape👀?
you'll see a brown cape in the older build if you get on the older build while wearing the cape
When you downgrade from TestFlight make sure you select 0.13.3 (165936). If you downgrade to others it will ask you to update
can you guys get the ts now? i havent got it yet DD:
I can't get ts..
I can't get it too
I’m waiting in vault to help out people who can’t light it. You can dm me if you need help
I joined someone who could light the ts. Just keep going back.
Anyone want help with this? I’m at the 4 plsyer door it’s open, feel free to dm me your qr!
how can I downgrade beta? I'm android
Android can’t unfortunately 
Is it true that beta won't update yet?
Wear flower with cheerful hair
Flower: Gone
Wear Earring with forest elder hair
Earring: Adios
can someone help me with the ts pls 🥲
Sure Dm me a qr 
mini FAQ for ppl coming in
- older builds can light up TS
- people on the new build** can server merge with people on the older build**, and collect the TS once its been lit
- only iOS can downgrade to build 0.13.3 (165936), android cannot
- betas not gonna update just because TS is broken. not the first time weve missed out on a TS because of a bug, and definitely will not be the last, so we cant expect any compensation
And just breathe. It's not the end of the world if you don't get this TS.
I appreciate all the people helping out others with this, you guys are awesome!
It is not impossible to get it anyways. Still better than spirit never showing up. No need to feel sorry
Wait, can we just use the candle on the emote menu and burn the TS plant?
I just burn it, the door needs to be closed, I had to glitch but I was able to get the spirit
just taking your candle out in the new build doesn't work
Downgrading will lose the rainbow days cosmetics? will I be getting after the upgrade? - iOS
nothing happens to the rainbow/nintendo cosmetics, you just won't have access to them in the old build - after you update again they're back
if i download sky beta on switch and make an account, then can i play on that account on my phone too?
Hmmm I’m beginning to think the issue isn’t a bug, but if you can;t light the spirit, it’s probably already active, follow the path down and see if you can find the group of people already reliving the spirit
I haven’t been able to light the spirit in the old build either and turns out it’s because another group wS already in the process of reliving it
it's definitely a bug, the circle won't appear to the new build but once someone on the old build approaches the circle appears
The main problem seems like the spirit is being there to light but it doesn’t get activated by players from new build. Spirit being activated before is something else, in that case they can join the group but this is different
can i get a yes or no reaction? 
Please read #beta-faq on how to do that
Just for information - using wrap to friend didn't make game crash, but it did crash if you try to release hand
ok so i read faq and had a quick question, if i dont have sky beta on phone but i do have it on my switch, can i still connect my sky account on device to my nintendo account and go between them?
Can someone help me with the ts plz? 🥲
I can! send qr
FIRST you need a beta qualification for phone ,then just link it to your Nintendo account on your phone. Anyway you have to already own a mobile beta account i think
Okay! Thank you!
Would you bring me too, please? I saw your meditation message offer 😄
sure! go to vault near the 4 door and I'll get there
Am there now…
Do you have an invite for switch beta? Or are you asking this for live game? For beta, you need separate invites from both platforms to play the game. Once you got invited, you can log in to the same account on both devices to play