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Not everything is tested if devs are satisfied with it then it may not even arrive to beta before live
Assembly was said to arrive early spring though? Which also begins in late march i think they’ll be pretty close
I have a feeling bloom will happens for around a week or so
Then comes assembly
Or maybe together at once ?
Who knows ?, I'm still excited to crash test www
And before a season comes to live it will come during the break in live version which is 2 weeks before it comes to live?
So any ideas about when is new season coming to beta?
That would be some serotonin boost if they come together

Around 3 4 days after beta invites open
Ill double check to be sure
We'll get it during the live break right
There is no date and we’ll just have to be patient.
I already said "idea" i hate reactions like this.
Beta invites: december 1st
Dreams season: december 4th
Yep
@frigid scaffold Sorry to hear you do not like the current candle system being refined in beta.
Glad to hear you sent feedback as that's the best place to be heard by TGC. 
So you're aware though the beta candle system is not yet complete. One of the main purposes of the system will be to stop candle run time from continuing to grow longer and longer as more places are added in the sky world. From what I've heard this will involve a hard candle cap, effectively meaning you will not have to run all the realms for max candles each day and can instead run where you enjoy or feel like the most. This will likely reduce candle run time while we can still make 19-20 candles a day (more during events that give candles). 
Even before live break
Last season beta invites began 13 days before season of prophecy was over, so season of dreams will most likely still be going when season of assembly begins in beta
Perhaps this isn’t the place for you, then. Patience and perseverance truly is key in beta testing. We are very rarely given exact times for anything and sometimes there are even surprises that are not stated in the patch notes.
I will live for the day we can reach the candle cap
Can't wait for some sort of reminder to tell you that "You may rest now. You have reached the maximum candles you can earn" or just straight up invisible wax lol
🚪
Hope they set up a maximum wax to be collected each day so tgc can add as many as possible of new maps/realms and candles 
Dude i didnt want Something sure just "idea" why dont you want to understand? Jeez
We have no estimated date of arrival for the new season or days of bloom in beta. 
Invite waves have changed now and I'd recommend taking a look in #beta-announcements at the most recent post if you are not yet aware of this change and how it works. 
people who were gonna do trials for candles 
Joke ofc
Calm down people calm down
Like the popular saying, soon™
I’m trying to give you an idea of what it is like to beta test Sky. I’m sorry if it isn’t what you expected. 
Ikr
I already know to be patient. Just want to learn what ppl thinking about it
Still kinda upset that it's been 3 weeks and tgc hasn't fixed the candles issues so I could stream in mirrativ with my friends and just scream in pain while doing trials. But well, Tgc is trying their best so hopefully soon! 
We were born for this 
I think Harbin said it well. There isn’t really any point in speculating the when and how. 
Facebook sign in doesn't work anymore in beta? It says that's the app ain't registered
TGC really said "screw facebook" 😂
Hopefully you didn't loose ur account
🥲
To be clear we have no reasonable idea when the new season will be coming to beta either. Things like this can vary on a scale of over a month sometimes. All we can do is wait for it to be ready for testing. 
Oh guys why are u so serious i still cant understand, this is a discussion channel and sooo?
I would also like to add that speculating can sometimes lead to rumours starting and then suddenly people think there is a date, which just leads to disappointment and chaos.
It's an idea of hopefully when it might begin. It's best to look out for pings from the developers.
Yes this is the discussion server so if someone says something about their opinion we shouldn't argue here
Anyone knows when the season comes in beta?
We have no idea 
In the season teaser it says there will be an introduction to more items that have previously been rare in the past seasons. Do you think these items will be functional items? Ones that interact with the environment around us? Umbrella / lantern. If so i really look forward to testing them as there will be 6!
The old pants or the old design of cape aaaaaaaaaa
Maybe hair accessories 
Prop items are items that go on your back, idk if I can find the quote by Ktjn though 
I really hope so, but will have to wait and see.
I'm sure it will be hype either way. 
a friend of mine said it will be an instrumental season morely
Hmm maybe it wasn’t Ktjn, but someone said that prop items are items that go on your back specifically, idk if they would’ve mentioned instruments separately but we’ll see 
Exactly
Also about the historically rare items, I assume it means the pants but from the teaser they all look similar but the hair looks different. Also they said there's gonna be 6 of them
It hasn't been comfirmed what items we will receive, weve only been able to see from the teaser that there is 1 obtainable cape and 6 pair of hairs and it seems a hat and cape of the questgiver? and the flower crown (that might be just mixed with the hair)
Anyone knows if there is going to be a new map 
from the teaser the background looks pretty similar to the
map
I hope beautiful hairstyles for men come in the new season cuz there are Very little
Ah I was remembering this message so I feel like it would be back items at least since the others are called accessories usually #beta-discussion message
It could be anything... Let's just be patient. But from my point of view, I definitely like more functional item. I mean really, I really like the Dof table
It's gonna take place in forest. It seems it's gonna be like the enchament season, where we need to help the kids "assembly" something
I feel the same, I wish they also introduced a masculine counterpart to the feminine hairstyle in the upcoming event too
Maybe we should give feedback dude dunno
You should 
? Something wrong umut?
No hahxhsnakxkx
Hopefully the upcoming pack event will be a bit cheaper
Well, you did leave a weird reaction on the message so I was confused. Well then.
More gender neutral hairstyles pleaser
Since it's said 'Rare', it means its something more ✨ D I F F E R E N T ✨ Than what we had since today!
Dont worry bud its ok just want to leave a random reaction lol
Just saying a lot of these ideas could go to #wishlist-and-ideas-archived 
Bald 
TGC was able to make a great gender neutral hairstyle, the moff hair. If they can manage to do something like that again, that would be amazing 
I also love the Rythm UG Hair!
Every hairstyle will be gender neutral if there will be no gender 🧠
Ye, if they could add more low back ponytails would be nice. Not like braids, kinda like rhythm hair but no ears.
I use dreadlocks model in my fav skykid combine
What's that?
My favourite hairstyle would have to go to pointing candle maker. This new hair style with the sticks though may just have a chance to draw equal or higher. 
Can look gender neutral as well as
and umbrella’s hair, but I find that people tend to have very gendered perceptions either way
for some reason a lot of people assume female when I have the moth hair on 
is there snow falling in beta new area?
Blep. Has anyone tried the contact support function in beta? I just tried it, and when I click the 'I need to talk with someone' button, the game just crashed

@runic path ill test it
After you complete the final quest in Dreams there’s snow yes 
Afro hair denies existence of any hair accessories 
Lol i acciedntly tap to "?" In beta and game crashed too
Yes?
I'm not sure what you're confused about if you only post the sticker. 
Even the reindeers? 🥺
@late mountain pointing candle maker? Who's that? "This new hairstyle"?
that thing crashed every single time for me
Only the tip will be visible 
ITS MY TURN GUYS #beta-feedback
Isle spirit
pointing candle maker
I was able to reach the help/support conversation without issue. 
I pretty like
and the Vault long hairs but ppl takes it very gendered assuming those are feminine hairstyles 
Why would you ever need to do that actually
Support function worked perfect on Live
Welp let's see if I can make the bug happen again
Yall wondering about beta support
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Lol everyone doin this and me too... Sooo
At what part did it crash? The menu option or the text/chat part.
yeah, try replicating it if you can, might've been a once off
Yeah
I have seen some cool drawings with them on like buff guys though and they look cool 
I think it's the text chat.
Vault hair looks like a hoodie
I absolutely adore the short dreads...so bouncy. Generally really well-put-together.
all elder hairs are neutral to me... outside of isle and prairie lols
I don’t think support works in beta since there is nothing they can do for you. We just need to report bugs through the channels here.
hey wait a second this isnt a beta topic 
Let's go back to discussing about beta
I thought someone said its possible to report bugs through support and if you lost your account etc. they can help with that in beta too just not priority most likely.
But I thought that was a different function? Somewhere about in game feedback or something idk
I know you can report bugs through the game when you take a photo.
yeah, but since its assumed legitimate beta players are discord users, we can just use the beta channels for reporting bugs/feedback... theres always helpbot if it falls outside of those issues as well
Hmm still useful to report in case it’s related to the build and goes to live on accident 
You can report bugs through game if you crashed 
My thoughts exactly 
Oh I’ve never actually opened the support menu, there’s a lot of options 
I’m fairly certain support is just disabled in beta.
man, looking at the "tapping on the ? crashes the game" bug reminds me of the time when we had too many spells and crashed the game just by scrolling to the bottom
It got to the chat menu for me like normal. I didn't post anything though to not open a ticket. (hopefully I didn't by just navigating there) 
The before chat part. Where like you click the "I need to talk with someone" button. I clicked it again and it works fine this time. Random crash maybe..
Hmm, I guess keep an eye on it. Beta bugs be lurking 
Hmm mine worked fine as well, hope the support team didn’t get pinged for my message 
hmm, never had that happen for me redacted: the only time i crashed in the change rooms was when the ascended capes didn't exist yet 
Before crash it shows reconnecting in the left-down corner... Idk 😐... Just keep an eye on it
Yes, it happened quite commonly on my old device and wasn't exactly a new problem, I'm talking a few months ago. It hasn't happened once on my newer device so I believe it might be device specific. That's only a sample size of one though.
Hopefully they might find a patch for it soon. 
When does the assembly season start testing?
Won't know in advance
The test server will be launched when the official server has less than 10 days left.
We also don't know that.
It's random, I assume
I think it should be soon.
We don't know yet, the season on beta just end
No one can know the news in advance, but I hope the new season will come soon.
my uncle who works at TGC said he doesnt know 😔
Yeah, they randomly release the news
I hope TGC will release the seasonal promotional video soon.
Have patience
TGC will ping us if it's ready
Don't forget to tap the "Beta Updates Pings" so they can ping y'all
Jeez how often do people accidentally misuse a beta channel? It seems pretty common just scrolling through
Well, many players are eager to take part and might not always understand what it means or what the channel is here for.
bappens in any channel really. it's mostly by people who aren't familiar with discord. they probably created a new account because they got invited here hoping to join beta so they just talk in the first channel they see that said beta
Hey, hopefully what I'll say rn isn't controversial but I have a friend who is japanese and doesn't understand how to use discord, so I let them have my account for a while just so they can access the beta invites channel. is that okay?
Btw, sky kids. Don't stress yourself from explaining everything here becoz faqs are already available, it just that they need to find it. As what we've doing on moths. Let them explore. Don't bother answering some repeated question over and over. Okay? Love y'all 💕
hi

._ . How can I be an beta tester?
Read the channel #beta-faq ! And keep the #beta-signup-info notifications on! Hope you get it!
Oki thanks for help ^^
Pien... 🥺👉👈
If you’re also planning on joining beta in the next wave you can send them the invite link... I personally don’t recommend sharing accounts and passwords though 🥲
The issue is, twitter is a mess when talking about notifications, so even if I sent, odds would be likely she wouldn't be able to. And I can't make Sky account for her because she has an iPhone so idk how that even works.
I'm a beta tester already, been since dreams
wouldnt it be easier if they made their own discord and you just taught them how to use it?
I’m just saying I don’t recommend sharing accounts. It’s really just a privacy and personal information concern.
and you have to rejoin beta every testing period
It's required interaction on the server to access the invites channel, and since there was little time I couldn't do it. Next time I'll do the second ladder
i mean, its not as though we know when beta invites are gonna come, and from what it looks like you wont have to wait too long to gain access to beta invites channel, so they'll make it just fine
I would either ask in the report to mods channel since its discord related or helpbot since it's game related too in a way, but they will probably say that sharing accs are not recommended. Also bug reporting is preferred on discord, without an account it's pretty hard to do it here, i belive
interaction could mean posting a screenshot or artwork of their own, or recting to roles etc. none of us knows what is it, but i doubt they require everyone to chat here all the time
I strongly don't recommend sharing discord accounts. You are solely responsible for this account. If anything were to happen while you are not in control of the account, there would be no exceptions or special considerations. I'm sorry that's not what you wanted to hear, but it is your responsibility to maintain the security of your account.
It's okay. I wanted to here everyones opinions about it. Thank you
Does anyone know what ever happened to the dress?
it wasn't ready for testing yet andgot removed. I think it's appearance in the closet was just an accident. It'll be back when they're ready to test it!
Oh okay! Thank you!
In the future, anything you’ve seen from beta can be asked here. 🙂
Hi
Hi there. How can we help you?
hello
actually yes. check the pins in #android-questions because it's a not-uncommon occurrence with both beta and live. those troubleshooting tips should work on both apps though
Probably? Much like Live can also be that way, if you have an old phone or a device with something that isn’t compatible with the game.
enters dreams
Uh--am I colourblind suddenly or is everything purple 
ngl I kinda dig this broken lighting
it's purple on android devices and has been since basically dreams opened. ios coloring is far less purple
Hello
I can't wait for something new to test, the candle forging is still very buggy and eden seems to go okay, I just want an update
!whenisnextbetaupdate
going to draw Beta me holding up a giant sign saying “we don’t know” or something
Can you elaborate Cake? What kind of buggy? I didn’t notice any bugs of candle forging, maybe I should keep an eye out on my next cr
Sometimes wax doesn't count, and it still has a bit of a delay for me, and my phone gets hotter each time I get wax 
I see. Thx Cake 
Overheating is definitely a thing in beta. It seems difficult to pinpoint for the team.
I don’t notice much a difference between beta and live about phone heating. On iPhone 8 and my phone heat a bit on both versions
not too disturbing tho
Hey can someone take a sreenshot of the purple cape lvl 2 pls ?
Please kindly refer to the pins in #beta-screenshots-videos . We are not supposed to honor this kind of demand but you are free to use the search bar or scroll through photos 
Oh ok
how r u today
Some android devices are not pink/purple. Example: mine
hello
may I ask about the candle forging system? how's its doing
its been a while since it got introduced and I gotta say, im curious about its progress
the channel is pretty quiet, so If someone wants to describe it, and if me asking about it is legal, please do so
Its in beta for a while now, but we didn’t have any major change recently. The last thing i remember, that they added the candle cakes to the trials and vault, also we are able to reach the same/almost the same amount of max. candles as we can in live. Other than this I haven’t noticed any change in it. Personally i still prefer the old one, but i’m not in a big need of candles neither in beta nor in live so I don’t really care how many I get. If I have time i do full runs anyways, if I don’t, then i pick a few map i like and collect those.
Here’s how it seems to work (someone correct me if I’m wrong): you start with 3 chevrons and collect wax at 2x the normal rate. After a while (about 2 maps?) you go to 2 chevrons and collect wax at normal rate. If you go in order, by Valley, you are down to one chevron and collect at half the normal rate.
oh, so, every chevron lasts more or less 2 maps.
Thats good to know actually
That seems to be my experience
emm I don’t really know “chevron” there?
Does anyone know how long it will be until more testing spaces open?
they added candles to trials and vault but u still get the same amount? (u mean they reduced amount of candles in other areas?)
The little upside-down Vs on the candle...
oh I see thank you
No but at first, because the last part was half-wax, it didn’t add up to the same amount as live.
oh, so the amount was in fact different
Only the devs know 👀
Aw dang it, you got any ideas?
tgc says there’s a limit of candles you can get each day..z
Idk if adding candles is good tho.
I mean, it doesnt fix the problem at all, does it? we wont be getting random clusters in live... I hope they'll manage to fix this up
where is it written?
🤷♀️
I mean uh.. the limit was always there? reset to reset stuff, you know
maybe in this channel?
Do you think there will be open spots when dreams ends? 💤
Dreams ended long ago in beta. Sign up for the pings
In which tag?
as far as I know, they always make some for when new season starts in beta, and as far as I can tell, new season in beta starts when season in live is close to an end (correct me if im wrong)
Sounds about right I’ll set pings for #beta-faq for when they re open testing?
its actually #beta-signup-info
and you can grab a role from #roles to be pinged for invite wave
I’ll just set them for both 😂
idk if youre aware of what faq is, its channel for frequently asked questions, so no invites will be there, its just some information which is rarely edited, I think
no point in looking for invites there
So 18 is still the limit?
However,it seems no notice while invites coming?
Idk, in live, the limit is little over 19, so
I think I’ll just get pinged in #beta-signup-info ?
I'll do a full candle run again and calculate :3 Thanks for the information
I’m an idiot so uh how do I add pings to a tag? 😆😞
If so,that’s good
#questions-and-help might be a good place to ask, although its not that complicated
If you go to #beta-faq it has a link to subscribe to be pinged. Good info if you’ve never been in beta about what to do once pinged, etc, as well.
Ok thank you all for the help
click these 2
No, the beta invite ping role is in #beta-faq
I think she means making the invite channel appear
No, they said "you can grab a role from #roles to be pinged for invite wave", which isn't correct.
So It’s not a linear system like we have in live. You get a lot of candle in the beginning and very very little if you reach zero chevron. Doing wastealnd with zero chevron gives you ~1 candle. There is a max amount, you can reach if you collect all available wax atm (which is close to the maximum obtainable candles in live). However after a point i doesnt worth the effort for me at least. The wax you collect doesn’t have a set value it’s more or less, depending on your chevron level. Basically adding wax to extra places wont’t really affect what you can get at the end. You will just reach zero chevron and tiny wax size earlier and have to spend more time with that, to collect the remaining if your goal is to get the max. However it’s still in developement we don’t know how the system will look in the future, so I’m curious too about how will it change. Sorry for my super slow typing
The new system is meant to encourage socialising over candle running. It seems many players are spending too much time just collecting wax and not doing much else in the game, so the idea is that you can get more candles in a short period of time and then do something else instead.
me sitting in home space and just seeing who comes by: wait Iwas supposed to collect candles?
So It’s unfriendly for those who do full candles run
Not necessarily. The concept of "full candle run" may be changing instead.
you still come out with around the same amount of candles overall, but you see less visible progression as the chevrons decrease
I was making a joke about how lazy I am 
It might be that other things in the game need to change also, making those "full candle runs" unnecessary. And that's part of the feedback process in beta.
The idea is that you can do a full candle run if you'd like but you no longer have to for a good amount of candles
it’s really not motivating to do a full run, and a vicious circle in my opinion at this stage. They don’t want players to spend all their time with cr, but basically everything need candles , friendships, constellation, ts, holiday items, chat benches. If you want to progress in those you need candles, a lot. Only my opinion,I think this system is not the best on its own, but with adding ts or other system changes or just optimizing it more could make it way friendlier for current full candle runners too.
Yes, that's what I tried to say...maybe in a less eloquent way.
In order for the new system to feel truly balanced, prices for some things might need to change for people to feel that it is equal (or better?).
After all,this system is still in junior phase
I wonder if this change could make the candle prices go down again or if they still have to be adjusted for inflation (with all the new wax)
guess that's what the pass locked ts thing we were testing is for 
You are better in short and good answers Blep than me
I’m writing novels everywhere except my thesis where I should to that.
Thank u for ur detailed response
I was so excited about trial cakes and now im depressed
If you like the trials they are great. The first 3 trials iirc will give you all the candles u can get with 3 chevron.
So doing the first 3 trial is like doing 3/4 prairie? Or something like that.
You'll keep trying until you make it through, right @tender oasis?
Trial cakes?
the cave of prophecy being worth stopping by?
is this a dream?
hahahah
Well as Ktjn said before most people aren’t even getting 10 candles a day, this change is so people are able to get more candles by just playing the same way they already are
Yeah I am actually so eagerly waiting for the system to hit live
I am doing 2 realms on average anyway
Honestly I started to cr regularly but damn
I rarely ever get to play for 2 hours
Between homework, school, eating and sleeping
Barely any time for cr on week days
Same, the way the system is now, I'd get more total candles a day as I barely run two realms in live as is. For those who do full CRs still get the shorter end of the stick though. 
I do full CRs whenever I can but I rarely can 😔
Then some TS comes, all of my friends who are in less exigent schools get the cosmetics and I just feel bad bc I never have the time or energy to farm properly
Ye, the idea is saying ‘it’s completely fine to do a partial CR - if you feel obligated to CR - and don’t want to do a full one or don’t have the time to. You can do whatever you want, don’t make them the centre of your experience for your mental health.’ I think
Yep
I would be testing it if I didn’t feel it could lead to burnout to, honestly
ironically
But really, after some point all sky becomes about is farming
Farming seasonal candles
Grinding normal ones
Working towards cosmetics you'll get tired of eventually
It's pretty weird
I mostly just chill in Vault now bc the game is still relaxing when I don't feel the pressure of my 2 digits number of candles haha
I do do lots of other activities, but that underlying pressure is just...ugh. It’s the main problem; glad there’s a partial solution in progress.
I really should be testing it but anxiety about burnout says no
Isn't it kind of ironic that sky has its own form of Fomo-like thing
Since it's supposed to be a relaxing safe space
I keep going on about it being a great idea instead of engaging to experience said idea...h
I feel like prices going up in TS and stuff makes it worse too
Like who cares about inflation in a world with no free trading. The devs can 100% control the economy. It's not a problem
I sometimes have the feeling that it's to make microtransactions more proeminent
One thing I think that caused the need for people to do full CRs are the TS. A good example of this is the respectful pianist for me in live. I wanted the piano since forever. I did tag along with other friends on their CR that week to get the 75 candles I needed for it. Now, if I wanted everything that TS had, I would have had to CR more.
The next TS was a TS for a season I was present for, so I only needed to spend the 2 AC for wing buff. I didn't CR much that week.
I think it can be a good way to test it if you do it once/few times the same way you do cr in live, and compare the two experience. Then try it in the way you feel the most comfortable with in the new system .
How does your current live playstyle feels compared to your new chevron system sytle, and how was it when you tried to force your live ‘method’ on the chevron system? Feels more rewarding, or more exhausting etc.? If this makes sense, I’m not the best at explaining it. 
Uzephi I agree ts is definitely something which forces you to go because it’s there for a limited time. However regular cr is kinda relaxing for me if it is with the right company, i dont mind at all to repeat it on a daily basis.
The thing is that newer players who've only been here for one or two seasons have little to no TS they already have.
Which means that they gotta do full CR a lot of the time if several good TS come in a row
personally, focusing my entire time on sky on candle running has taken somewhat of a toll on my experience with the game. it's tiring, i don't even want to be doing it and yet i feel the need to in order to afford a ts. the new system in beta seems to be helping, but combined with ts price changes it'd be better 
It doesn't help for those people who feel they must have every cosmetic. My GF is one of those people.
We started the same time and she has all constellations complete in live whilst I only completed GW for the hair. If I won't use the cosmetic, I won't buy it from the TS, or spend the hearts in the normal constellation. I guess, I'm not a completionist like her and other players. 
I totally agree
I have the same experience
What we really need are lower TS prices
Bc they're the core of the issue that some people have about having to be able to afford a TS just in case
Yeah for me it’s ts and event items that really force me to do full cr, otherwise I’ll do a more casual two to three realms and maybe get dragged around by some friends 
She wanted us to CR more for the duck mask and the hair and I was like: Are you really gonna use them? "No, but I want to have all the cosmetics.
" was her response. 
TS is the prime motive for most candle runners, really. 
Including me haha
TS and ❤️ exchanges.
exactly. i feel like you can't really discourage the current feeling of obligation people have with candle running without changing the cause behind it - the ts did i english that right?
annoucing TS earlier is a great way to allow players not to stress too much about saving candles
A good way of balancing the TS system would be to have TS first visit be like it is now and each subsequent visit be cheaper. Example: the Respectful Pianist had the piano for 60(?) Candles. Maybe next visit be 45.
Honestly I wonder if I don't prefer the old system, since the new one will just kind of devalue new wax additions
Unless they balance how stamina works accordingly each time
If I could lower prices, I would make items under the lock not so expensive. Sometimes I see a mask under buff and it was what, 40 candles? It seems more appropriate to make it 18 or something. Maybe 20. An achiveable number in a short amount of time, with the items higher on the tree being more expensive.
Then it again price under buff would increase depending on what kind of cosmetic it is. Like if it was a mask, 18. If it was a prop item, 32. Something like that. Just stating opinions.
Y E S
that'd be such an easy way to do it without changing too much.
It'd be a nice thing to try out I think
I'll send it in feedback.
Thanks haha I was about to ask who was gonna write the wall of text in feedback x)
i finished the base game in august and i'm still worried about not having enough candles for the next TS
i feel like decreasing the frequency of ts visits could work too but not everyone would be happy about that. even i am somewhat mixed on that approach, it's just a possible alternative
sometimes im questionning myself about the reasons why im still playing. CR feels like a chore
I wouldn't know how to feel about that
Maybe just... Announcing them earlier would be enough
maybe!! i also don't know if id like it but it was something i considered~
Decreasing will cause another backlash. Maybe dropping hints over the break week like "This spirit is from this season..." or a cryptic message on who the spirit might be. Or something. Then announcing it on announcement day.
It would be so much fun to have riddles to guess
Enigmatic little poems
Do you have number of candles you want to get daily? 10 candles a day seems ok to me.
they have plenty ways to make it fun : like riddles with lore. we might not find which spirit but then we'd have info on them anyway
yeah, that seems like a great approach too!! i like it, and it's way better than leaving players in the dark for nearly 2 weeks
At least 8 for me. But even then I almost never achive that.
Personally I don’t see how that helps fomo exactly but it does sound fun
I’d still want any ts either way though 
at least 10 for me
Alright when we have more ideas I'll make the next Feedback message (if ur ok with that)
15, used to be 20 lol
i aim for 15 candles per day usually, maybe that's why my crs feel like a chore
Hmm, what if the first 3 spirits you relive that day award a candle like the first time you relive? 
That was a bug. It was able to break the economy. 
about economy breaking bugs, sanctuary was... much appreciated 😳
Maybe just the spirit of the day (to get an SC, you can also get a normal candle too)
You get a lot of wax from reliving spirits when you first start so that’s not surprising
but with all these events having ways to get wax maybe that could help 
With 10 candles a day you can get very slow progress on constellation, maximum 1 ❤️ a day for exchange and chance to get at least part of TS.
Why is everyone putting
on my messages? I know I'm amazing to look at but still. 
What was a bug? There's a decent server side check for the suggestion. Just have the server give candles for the first 3 relives. All candle currency is server side anyway and as long as the server knows, 'this spirit was relived already, counter of relives today is x. If x > 3 don't award candle.'
you could get 0.75 candle for every spirit you would relive lol
^ That bug.
Sorry 'bout that. I'm on my chromebook and my school disabled google play so I can't update Discord anymore. So I can't reply. Pardon me.
yum wax 
Browser discord though?
It works just fine
No, andriod app discord. I can't update it. So it's like some sort of ghost ping.
Oh i enjoyed that bug , we had spirit runs instead of cr for a few days 


Soooo wonder if we’re get any beta updates tomorrow
This bug+ daily candle system
Perfect
Have some patience my friend! It may not come tomorrow, who knows! it’ll come when it’s ready
they say that everytime someone asks for the update, tgc delays it another day
||just kidding||
Areas is right ||
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Y'know... i try not to think about the coming beta updates for either the season or days of bloom event...
But like the excitment in my chest is just :pFIRE:
Testing of the new event means... Goodbye candles. 
Even after the conversion, I'm already around 200 due to completing the candle requirements for constellations and upgrading friendships.
1
What happens w candles?
If there are in game currency items for the event we need to use that currency (candles) to aquire those items.
just like the feast table which krill me 150+ candles
Guys please don’t ping me I thought it was invites
If you don't want pings from other channels, there is an option per channel to disable notifications. Invites will only come in #beta-signup-info, so you can disable notifications for all other channels if it bothers you. 
They should’ve done this without pings
I agree

Will the days of bloom be coming to beta? (If it's not already.) 🌸
who knows? theres nothing in #beta-announcements so your guess is as good as mine
We would assume the tree mechanic needs testing, but we don't know if or when days of bloom will hit beta.
Oh, ok! Thanks, just wondering if you knew. 
We'll know if there's an update that says to test DoB in #beta-announcements
otherwise, we're as clueless as everyone else. 
hello
Hi. If you need tips about how to join beta, pls take a look at #beta-faq . And post hello here won't unlock the invite channel. 
@runic path, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
How to get ✨
B E T A
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hmm,everyone r waiting
Hi guys just wanna ask about the new beta invite system. Does it immediately start for season of assembly or are they still testing it out?
Seems like it will begin immediately
they only give out invites when they need testers which is most likely before seasons
no need to be so worried about these just have the invite ping role and everything will work out fine
Anyone still have the ts price of jellyfish spirit? I tried to relive it last month but during the spirit bug i didnt get it in time
You can search in #beta-screenshots-videos if you want to find them, but please note that nothing in beta is an indication of what might happen in live. This channel is for testing discussion, not a Q&A channel, and that spirit (or any other for that matter) isn't currently under testing anymore
Ty! I just wanna see them again 
TS price in beta =/= TS price in live. We do test new TS features, so our pricing may differ some weeks compared to live. 
Someone says beta and prophecy together.
visions of lava and white screen and crashes
Yeah, decided to go to the trials to try and get 0 chevrons before my vault run for a comparative analysis and had some flashbacks. 
Wait is there a chevron without the arrows? How much wax would it give 
I have a feeling someone is going to find an exploit for the chevrons 
Once I get the totals for vault, I'll post an image of how much I got.
negative chevrons...
I hope that Sakura tree arrives today on Beta. It is Spring already.
did they remove the candle cakes from fire trial ? i coulve sworn there were some here at some point, added at the same time as the the ones in vault ?
nvm i found them
Hello can someone send a picture or the price of the Purple cape tier 2 if it exists
In my experience, 4 candle cakes give the same wax as 1 candle cake do in live
copy paste this into the searchbar and you'll find what you want
in: beta-screenshots-and-vids has: image ascended
Oki ty!💝
I’m kind of surprised the new beta waves haven’t come out yet
This season hasn’t finished yet
I thought new beta invites were supposed to come out when the current season in live is close to ending.
That’s what usd to happen, but things are always subject to change.. usually in live the 10 days + 2 weeks off season gap provide testing buffer in beta
there's never a set time for invites. just be patient, and it'll probably happen soon!
Price of tier 2 capes is 3x the tier 1 price
Yeah I found an image asking and suppose to be 90 hearts😬
Beta invites happen when the devs need new active testers, if they have enough active testers there won’t be any invites
It is 90 hearts. I got ascended purple a few days ago. Rip my beta skykid's wallet
how do i check to make sure i have my beta invite notifs on?
My beta skykid's wallet's filled with 100+ candles and 1 heart so far
if you have the beta invites role (which you do) and your discord notifications are on, then youre good
I think you are signed up for the ping as it is a role on your profile. As long as the channel isn’t muted it should work I believe!
sometimes you could do all those and still never get the notification because discord is wack but hopefully that doesnt happen lol
Ah I was to late sorry I copied ur message
no worries! i dont see why you have to apologize since we're both answering to help out lols
Happens all the time! It's normal!
I'm mostly active now as a beta tester on Android, so I'm all set
Hm yea that’s true I came to an odd conclusion it would get intense if it was a race
thank u both for the info!
Hi, may I ask, do anyone of u gaizz know which cosmetics from the bloom event are an in app purchase and in game currency? Thank you 😄
I don’t believe that’s been released on beta yet so nobody knows we will see in time probably
oh oki

It's my first year of beta and live 
All but earth trial barely got me 2 candles at 1 chevron.
Doing the trials reminded me why I swore off them also... effort doesn't equal reward imho
I just wanna know ||is it true dat all the in-app purchases is free in beta?||
awesome!!!
it’s normal for every beta game to have free in-app purchase
iap is free but for testing purposes so no candle packs
Oh so i do need to grind 😦
I think for the cape, table and hair we will pay with real money and they additionally will add some cosmetics we pay with candles later. ( not know for now)
How to be a beta tester whe you are a beta tester 
It's easy:
Step one: resign from being a tester
Step two: join in the next beta tester wave announced in #beta-signup-info
Note: don't forget to get ping role from #beta-faq so you get notified.

Hehe i will be tester soon
im gonna have a hard time remembering which one i finished my cr on
although bug hunting is the point so i dont need to worry much
Hardest part of beta all ts missed 
0 chevrons in vault, with office and archives wax... Less than 1 candle... 
I mean, we are testing the new forge system, so probably yes a bit if you are testing that
Uzephi what time is it for you?
Did you ever try getting negative chevrons?
Negative chevrons are a thing? I thought minimum was 0

No it was just a thought 
Uzephi if it's late, sneeep it's 2am for me I should sneep too 
I've heard a story about some Sky kids falling asleep in Golden Wasteland, rumour has it no one has seen them anymore... 
at negative chevrons you go around extinguishing candles and growing darkness
/j
Child of light? Nah...
Child of dark? Nah...
Child of capeless? Yes!
Child of prophecy lava floor? YES
I suspect the idea of zero/negative chevrons is to discourage further cr-ing, for the player’s health (and sanity?).
But seriously, I believe TGC is trying their best to create a healthier attitude towards the game mechanics. The chevron system might be one of many future changes. We’ll just have to keep testing and giving feedback.
Did days of bloom arrive yet? 
No
Wait for the #beta-announcements to announce
actually, you know what, the easiest way to check if any event happened yet is to go take a look at #beta-screenshots-videos because people would fill that channel up with pictures of the sakura tree for sure, lol
the chevron doesn't really help, you still have to candle run at least a hour, from luck and skill to the amount of spells/winged light
the point of the system is to give people without that one hour to CR more candles though, unless im misunderstanding your message
daily light system will not change the routine for people who do full CRs, but it will benefit people who say, only have 30 mins or less to login to run
An hour? That's a really big help! I usually take 2-3 hours to do full crs, so it'd definitely help a lot of people who maybe need to split up the time to cr every other time they're free (if busy and stufd)
personally, if daily light means i can skip valley without feeling bad about missing out on the candles then im in full support of it
I just wanna not cr isle and vault anymore 
but then I remembered vault is getting small cakes
I still think it should still be changed for the last chevron, the game should be more like: STOP FARMING ALREADY but in a less infuriating way, so GRIND farming is still an option, and still fun
its supposed to be infuriating so people will stop though
Idk, I heard some people even do air trial without a friend for wax, and that's just crazy
yeah, so if you're at zero chevrons and you're earning peanuts for candles, that's going to make you want to stop running trials for wax
Let's hope that's the case for the majority ;v;
The term "every wax counts" will hopefully disintegrate
Heck there’s some people that run Eden daily just for the wax, doubt this’ll stop the hardcore people 
Oh heck, i forgot how much wax is in eden
Yes, it’s to combat the endless hours some players spend in the game. But as I said yesterday, maybe other things need to change also, such as TS prices, for the whole thing to become balanced. This is what our mission is to test in beta.

posting solely emotes isn't going to give you access into #beta-signup-info , but i suggest you try lurking in #cozy-sky-discussion or #general-sky-discussion channels meant for chatter / or reading up #beta-faq to prep for beta test invites
Does the wax in Eden affected by the Daily Light system?
From what I see it's fixed right?
qwq
Wait there is wax in eden ?!?!
eden wax is affected as well
btw uni i think they're referring to orbit wax
Ascension to Orbit, yes
if we're unsure i guess we could always just go to eden to test it out... i havent been to eden on beta in forever, either
Yeah I think there was chonky wax in Eden the one time I did it after reset but it might’ve changed for all I know
that was like a month or so ago probably 
The previous ts system was good to be honest .like u must have current adventure pass to get everything from the ts , this really help to not grind for candles...
Is there a way to find out which ones are the beta testers and which ones aren't?
Beta is a separate app. It is a separate testing environment. There is no crossover between the two apps.
No i mean the people on the server
Ahhhh. Here? You could ask individuals I suppose.
Oh okay thanks
Why do you want to know that? I think most beta testers post here at least a few times, although there are also a lot of just curious peeps too. 😆
Just wondering
Just come here after #beta-announcements turns white. Everyone contributing to the chaos here would be a tester 
Kinda because i read this message actually (sorry Iye for the reply)
Maybe you meant to post that in #cozy-sky-discussion ? 🙂
if ywanna refer to messages next time, you can try copying message links
(press and hold on mobile, scroll to the option that says "share" and you'll be able to copy the link to my message)
edit: or it might just say copy message link... i dont remember what it looks like on mobile lol
Oh thanks, sorry again
Is anyone else having a problem upgrading a friend to the high five? I’ve done it twice today, and each time the animation never starts, we both just stand there.
What is high five? I Don't think I learned this word at school.
The very first upgrade after you make a friend
this emote
So that is what it is!
I filed a bug report, will let TGC worry about it.
Is the test suit qualified?
We dont know when invites come 
invites only come if there's a need for testers, and now that we don't have access wipes anymore its up to TGC to decide if there's already enough active testers or not at the moment
No, it's a bug in the sky. Invitations in beta. We know how to get started.
Chinese players have a separate beta app or is it the same one? 
Like the sky app is same but the servers are separate
Beta is the Same as far as i know.
netease doesnt have beta, beta is all done here. netease ver can just use bug fixes and codes from our current live version since their schedule is one whole season behind us
Is ice rink gone from beta now?
No
when's the new season coming out on beta? i suppose you guys would know since im kinda busy with other stuff and im playing on sky's beta from time to time qwq not really in touch with the latest news
they are asking about the home ice rink if im not mistaken
We don’t get to know stuff in advance, stuff comes when it comes as per the famous quote soon™️ 
Please come #beta-faq Middle View Information
tbh the ice rink should've been gone by now but maybe with the next update it will disappear, and i see, thank yall
i think it will go when they add days of bloom (if they do)
Hello I’m sorry if this is noob question but where do you download the TestFlight?
TestFlight is an app in the App Store, it should show up when you search it 
^
Oh okay thank you!
The cherry tree is looking forward to it! I also want to take it as a souvenir!
Sorry can I also ask must you buy the adventure pass to become a beta?
adv pass is free on beta you dont need to make any purchases
That's not what they're asking
You don't need to be a pay to play player, beta is free, aslong you can join through the invite waves.
ah sorry my explanation is bit short 😅 but yeah that's what i wanted to say
Ohh I see thank you guys for answering! I thought you needed to buy the adventure pass on the non-beta sky app to be a beta
Basically you can only download beta if you catch the invite links that the devs released 
probably soon
Ohh thank you thank you 🙇♀️🙏 I hope I’d be able to catch their invite >.<
Goodluck 
best of luck 🥳
The beta invite didn't happen the day before yesterday, will it happen later?
Will tgc continue to conduct the tests or is days of bloom the last beta test? Cause I heard something about not testing anymore
What the hell is the problem? Sounds like something to do with TGC?
Thank you @spark lance @tacit valley !
we won't know when they will release the invitations, we can only know once they're released
i don't think beta testing will stop at any time soon... maybe they're just gonna limit the slots since removing access is no longer an option now
Ohh I see, makes sense when you can’t quit beta testing anymore... I understand 

#beta-faq and #beta-announcements have most of the answers. You can read those first then ask questions here if there's confusion.
We are normal players too we don't know when ivites will go out.
as long as there is a content to test i guess beta testing will not stop ☺
Yes, I think there will be more tests in the future.
Yes

still kinda stupid with android beta players not being removed, i mean at one point it sounds good but at another its a huge disadvantage, looking at it more thoroughly, the devs will have to expand a lot of resources for the test server, more android testers will join which will leave no place for iOS's, why? inactives, maybe just a speculation but google's move on TGC's app is weird qwq
I also have a question, what happens if beta stops testing?
beta won't stop testing, its a valuable asset to the live game, there are companies where they don't have their own test servers and all the content goes to live, full of issues which makes it barely playable
This is a hypothetical question, and in reality there will be more tests waiting for us in the future than there will ever be.
i think it's not only for tgc, it's for every app that's on the Playstore. you can't remove access without having to take down the app completely
google's policy i guess :stickerGloomy: and yes, it's a huge disadvantage because then tgc would have more testers every time they release an invite link
it's still stupid, one day all beta games will be android-only unless they could expand the resources but its also to the money they have to spend for multiple servers
i dont want my game to be filled with inactives, eventho im also somewhat inactive myself but i have reasons, i still do check from time to time, trying to get things done so i could have a lot more time to spare in beta
"time"
I mean..you do know there's a "leave beta program" option right? Plus, maybe when it gets too full, TGC could possibly take down the app and place it back? I don't think they'd have a choice if it gets fuller and fuller in the future
I heard taking down the app alltogether is a huge risk at their end :'0c
Ah, yeah that makes sense 
Wonder if they could just like, ask people to leave? Theoretically speaking ofc 
i hope this doesnt sound mean, and i certainly share the same sentiment of not wanting too many inactives crowding the server, but saying you have a reason to be inactive is kind of dismissive of others who could also have similar or maybe yet, better reasons to be inactive lol. no need to put others down over it
well yes, i can't be there everyday, i do find about 3 days a week but its randomly, got occupied myself with a lot other things and there's always going to be something i can't do in time which is upsetting me, after all time is essential qwq and yes i do know about that, i honestly do want to spend more in beta, they won't have a choice yup
im not speaking for myself but like, im pretty sure there are a lot of iOS beta testers, i can always leave and all but looking at it in another view there will be a huge backlash going on aimed at TGC and Google
Hmm, just maybe (?), Just maybe 
google is kinda not that responsive unfortunately.... people had to wait months before they could download beta even though they had access during sanctuary & prophecy testing.
both TGC and players tried to reach out to google for an explanation but they kinda gave non-answers and left it at that, so i guess overall its just not worth it trying to reason it out with google's services
Inactive is a problem, if a person is not active, will be directly deleted, in order to ensure that the server is not active clean up intact, let them grab the invitation again.
thats what they're doing with iOS inactives, but they can't do the same for android because Google works differently
Isn't it posted on one of beta channels that Android Invites will only be limited? I believe it said "we will raise the limit of Android testers......"
Google doesn't have a clean history with TGC's Beta testing system. I'd doubt reaching out to them (google) would be enough 
(There are too many mistakes)Your answer is correct, in Google play is the choice of players, can only rely on Android players to choose the idea of two options.
a pop up for people who haven't logged on in 2 weeks would be pretty neat, given it should be enough time for someone who had been inactive for this long, iOS on the other hand, if they see it and continue being inactive they'd be forcefully removed from the test server unlike android where the choice is their own, hopefully it does become limited @faint comet
btw theo, you wont have to worry about beta ever being "android-only". that will never happen because they need to test how things run on different platforms, since there will always be device/OS specific bugs
🥲 i remember TGC staff and a player here tried asking Google whats up and they both got conflicting answers lol... dont really know why google operates the way that they do
Upon reading on beta update, one of the dev said "in sake of fairness, we will raise the limit of Android testers..."
that's just enough for me to have a hope, yeah they do need both iOS and android testers but come on.. google would do anything to ensure people who own android will be satisfied
its the most recent message in #beta-announcements so you can just go take a look and see if that clears up anything
they wont be inviting anymore android testers if they have enough tho but yeah inactives are diff matter
i'll take a look on it
What happened here?👀
there's no access wipe like usual so who knows, maybe there's already enough android testers and they won't need to release invites for android. or they would, but a lot less frequent than for iOS users
But I get where you're coming from @sullen osprey , I bet there's some android testers out there who doesn't really test out stuff in beta and I am friends with one 🤷🏼♂️
Maybe they wanna show off "Hey, I have beta.. yada yada yada."
But a BIG thank you for all reliable testers out there ** kneel emote ** ** respect emote **
just shows what a person they are, one would feel upset if they want to get in beta but because of a person like them, they could not
yeah, i'm sure all of us have moments of feeling discouraged/lonely when we see our constellations filled with people who haven't been online for weeks in beta 🥲
i definitely understand the frustration but it just .. can't be helped so much
Yeah, I so wanna get in on beta and focus on it more than I do in Live just to hunt bugs and test out stuff. But can't 🥲
@void mica bruh you know downloading APKs is against the Terms of Service, right? It could cause a lot of performance, account and malware issues for you. Trying to use APKs will result in download problems and may result in account data loss and inability to contact TGC support. APKs cannot be used to bypass the device incompatibility and do not help TGC with beta testing at all. Please don't use them or discuss them here.
Unless google does something about it, we just have to stick with the current situation :'')
I do reccomend putting live over beta tho. Spend some time to test, but also remember the real thing :0c
i do hope they find a way to wipe inactives tho... wishes extends to live
Wipe out inactive playera in live version?
if thats what you're implying that's a terrible idea LOL no thank you
like maybe remove those that never progress
like moths who never touched the game after the opening for the first time ?
yes exactly
This is a very bad idea for IOS testers to delay inactivity.
if MMOs from 20 years ago still keeps my lv1 characters that i never touched then i dont see why sky would ever do the same tbh
Eh the game I used to play a decade ago did wipe my old acc
although why? inactive live players r harmless and they're not taking space for other new players as in beta
well the friend constellation needs improvement then. imagine having 50 moths in your conste who never logged in again
I don't think it's suitable if brings the system (wipe out players) into live version. Bcs ppl have some matters in real world and maybe just took some time for hiatus 👀
Imo that's not good idea.
I have a friend who joined this game since gratitude, and come back again on Dream. Also there's a friend who joined in belonging and comeback angain in dream 👀
Yeah, you got a point but I am now getting bored of the Live Version tbh. Hunting bugs in beta sounds more interesting.
I know they're basically the same but I find hunting bugs and testing stuff much more exciting.
I doubt tgc collects progress data of every player 
It's just a reccomendation. That's also okay www ^•^
Ummm, block option, then? Its easy peasy
Agree
the thing is i can kind of see where they're coming from for this. i want an option where you can completely delete a friend, because sometimes i block an active friend to see other people and to unblock them, i have to scroll through 50 inactive players names to find the friend i blocked lol. it gets tedious real quick
The constellation is still going through a lot of fixes iirc. Not sure if they're still fixing it atm tho
for someone who likes my list clean 🥲 its just wishful thinking
if this is the case i suggest u to leave a feedback about it on #live-feedback, not being able to remove friends constellation been an issue for some too, i believe block is the perfect solution for u now/ or un favorite them if u haven't already
Inactives will dissapear from your constellation after a while if you have many active friend 
yep done that 😅
the unblock process for a friend is, at the moment, such a bad system, because if you wanna unblock more than 1 person and theyre at the very end of the list, the game sends you to the front of the list after blocking 1 person and you have to scroll all the way to the back again to find the other friends lol
ye but its nice to hear what others have to say about this since ive been wondering if there's any news about the friend constellations getting fixed or something
it takes time indeed 😬
MMOs are funny things; those things happen...
The friend constellation desperately needs to be changed and made more accessible for people who struggle with rapid symbol recognition. Please leave feedback for it!
It’s better if the player who has issues with a feature leaves feedback themselves. TGC has asked us not to do mass postings “in support of”, but rather speak from our own experience.
They are stating their opinion above and I agreed and offered another reason why I thought the constellation needed changing. And I said to leave feedback. I’m not asking for support for MY reason. Two different ideas there. Also no need to ping me when you are directly below. Thanks.
So I’m a active beta right do I have to get a invite still I’m iOS
I've left plenty of feedback over the last 14 months of me playing sky on why I think the constellation needs to be accessible for me. really has just come to me refusing to accept lights now until my constellation breaks because lighting people back is awful with the camera panning
idk how much more feedback I can leave before it's considered spamming. I do hope they overhaul it soon. Ktjn has said it's something they want to do before but who knows when that will happen or what changes will occur
Confused on the lighting part there do you mean like when you gotta zoom into a player to just light there candles?
yeah if you want to light someone back you click their star and the camera pans down as your friend comes down with their candle out to light. I get that they did this for aesthetic reasons but that camera panning up and down for me gets bad after about 10-15 people. I have probably 2000+ friends between beta and live to light
it's even worse as a short skykid (jars the camera pan) and other factors like other people being too close to you (also jars the camera pan) or people shooting off fireworks while you're looking up at the constellation. I've heard from people who aren't photosensitive that it bothers even them too 
Ah I see it can be bothersome for some people, it dose not really bother me much since I don’t Friend lots of peeps but it would be nice to have an option to light them all automatically and just be able to click on them if you want to send gifts or add them to favorites etc..
For me it would be really helpful even if they revamp the block list rn 
It's exhausting to go back to the start once you unblock someone from one page 
I play beta to help with the new seasons events etc but I really don’t collect candles bsbsb I only rlly collect candles in live
Morning, Someone knows when the New season will be avaliable to test?
Does anyone know if they're making a music volume adjustment feature or not? I really want it. I understand that they worked hard on the musics and it's pretty important. Ik making music isn't easy especially if you start from 0, i sorta do music myself, but it just gets annoying sometimes and sometimes i wanna listen to music while playing without the game music distracting
The block list is meant to eliminate bad actors in your constellaton. And tgc does not expect kids to unblock alot of players at a time.
Why I think this is tricky situation is that to find friends we need to block/unblock people.. having convienient unblock options means that people will start farming hearts from constellatons and abuse qr code system.
I can understand why tgc hasn't taken any decision on it for long time.
#beta-announcements will tell u when
if you're on ios then playing any external audio mutes the in game music automatically. I believe they're working on making that possible on android but androids do process sound differently so we don't know if or when that will happen
#wishlist-and-ideas-archived is a good place to say you want an in game music/audio volume control!
Thank you!
Why do they keep saying when to test the new season?
Because they really want to experience the new season, they can’t wait to ask when they can test the new season.
Don’t keep asking when to test the new season every day, so you have to go #beta-faq and #beta-announcements
I think a lot of people are just excited because it looks like a different format. They did mention a scavenger hunt which seems exciting! it's not even 6am on Monday yet though
I don't think we'll be getting an update soon
Did you seriously just unnecessarily @ a community manager? 
Ooooo
I didn't notice😂
Please remove your message or edit the last part.. mental illness are not to be used as an insulat and this violates the servers rule being kind and respectful to the people. Assume the best of the people as testers.
I'm quoting ktjn's response on this
This is a little mean spirited. Everyone is excited for all the stuff we just shared teasers about. Remember to show people kindness, instead of punching down on their confusion and valid questions.
ktjn: I'm gonna krill you
ah yeah it's best not to cold ping people
it's still really early for TGC staff and Ktjn isn't part of the conversation right now. You can say her name without pinging her if you mean for others to watch the beta updates where Ktjn informs us of what's new in beta 
Edited
Everybody calm down here. I know that all of you are mad at each other, but please forgive each one instead. Continuing with this violence will lead us nowhere
No, we think that they are being stimulated to ask, and answer their questions more respectfully than we are
Mad? Who? No seriously I don't think anyone here was mad plus it's hard to tell anyway through text unless you use emojis 
You're right. We can answer their questions, but we just only need to be careful of what words we choose for our answer
Oop
#beta-discussion gets muted next

wait the potrait mode still exist on live , its just many other user with different type of phone coulndt find it, does talking about potrait mode still count as for beta chat only?
That's right
How do you even have portrait mode on Live?
portrait mode doesn't officially exist on live. there's a way to force ios devices into portrait by starting an in game recording, stopping it, pressing "add to shared album", tilting the device to portrait, and then closing out the save window. on beta you simply just tilt your device to portrait and it becomes portrait mode.
theres a small trick for that and its pretty simple
There is bootleg portrait mode on ios in live. But officially its only on beta
Oh. That.
I wouldn't call that trick portrait mode though, it's not intended
The existence of iOS, Android does not know
Finally finished homework (time:UTC+8 22:03)
Android has their own repertoire of tricks , which ios can’t do👀 not the portrait mode tho 
you can get bootleg portrait on android too if you have a device that supports multi window
but the quality is worse than the 0 lightning bolt battery saver option 
Guys it’ll come when it’s ready, hold your horses
oo i know what that trick on android is 
oml pls dont ping reply or i screm
And I'm turning and walking out the door.
I had to reread your message, since it was around 9am when you posted it 
I play both ios and android
don't be like me and play beta on one device and live on the other at the same time. you will mix conversations up and reply to the wrong people
(or manage to drop your friend off the last ledge in fire trial in beta while your uber is screaming at you because you fell oob in forest in live)
oh Cake it was 6am TGC time
I know
but you said it like it was your time so I was like uhhh...
Ohh which one? I meant that android sometimes works differently with glitches than ios. Both has good ones.
don’t worry about pings I won’t 
both had the lava floor
yes both had good ones
the trial glitch thing, it only works for android 
Ahh yes that one too, true
. Lava floor is universal 
Kai i did that through Sanctuary
convos weren’t the problem but eden and wasteland together wasn’t nice.
Wait for the assembly season to start testing.
White cape tier 2 🥺
Isn't it in White Cloak 2 beta?
Got removed
rest in rip
The white, black, and pink tier 2 capes actually aren't in beta right now, they were removed at some point for further development so you can't purchase them from the spirits anymore. Although people who had purchased them before removal can still wear them, but I think not many people have them right now so you don't see many screenshots of them
Because they are too expensive, no one can afford them (except hackers)
How much is the petal cape in your pfp?
That's not true, plenty of people have lots of hearts in beta, some people have even gotten the 999 heart cape legitimately
i dont understand coming in this channel posting about tier 2 white cape every single day, but anyway. no one knows how much the petal cape costs. no one even knows which bloom cosmetics are IAPs or candle purchases
No one buys them after spending 999 hearts (deleted secondary cloak)
I was just using that as an example that it's possible for people to have a lot of hearts in beta, enough to afford the tier 2 capes (even the really expensive ones). Please don't spread rumors that only hackers can have expensive items in beta, because that's just not true
Oh! You noticed it! HAHAHAHAHA
(The more wrong the word is) Wait for the next version to get the information
I just hoping someone will give me a good news about white cape tier 2.🥺
isnt it easier to just... type that into the searchbar then lol
We don't have any news about things before TGC releases it, so asking every day won't get you any new information until there's an update
I'm getting info in everyone. Is that wrong?🥺
There is no news about the Level 2 White Cloak.
I've been in beta for a year now so if I'd actually bothered collecting lights from my constellation more than once a month I'd have enough hearts to legitimately afford the tier two capes when they came 
Okay. I'll just cr Vault and go Eden before I sleep. 😴
people can talk about how much they want something but its not gonna actually exist until TGC officially says something about it lol. we're just normal players we don't get inside information on when stuff releases unfortunately 😔
It is expected to be similar to the level 2 cloak that has been released now.
when you land on a mushroom or mantas and they just yeet you into the sky
The dream season has 13 days left in the official service, and the assembly season should start testing next week or next week. At that time, the official should publish a promotional video before then, in which a map entry may appear.
yeah and its just half of the screen aswell, so its hard to focus on ur character and I dont think its possible to take the picture
seems to only be certain androids. mine's never done that but I have been ubered by androids who did
I managed to do a capeless run due to that, forest, jellyfishes, if they hadnt yeet me into the air, it wouldve been impossible
wouldn't characterise live portrait mode as bootleg though, it's the exact same thing
how you get there is just a little dodgy
is this how it normally looks like for yall ios? https://twitter.com/Kina_SevenOcean/status/1360255852490330116?s=20
remembered my friend posted this
yep
ys
poggers
You can have that on older ios devices too. My android only got it once in forest in one build where the whole place was super laggy, but never again.
maybe thats the reason. lag. my device has 4gb of ram and can run at 15-20fps on low battery mode
How do you check your ram on iOS?
easiest way is to google your device type + ram
maybe on the box you bought it with? maybe search the device on google
Will there be an invitation today? (Rubbing hands and looking forward)
Hi
the invite waves are unpredictable. We don't even know if they'll still do an invite before the season starts testing so best we can say is sign up for a beta invited ping role in #beta-faq and keep an eye on your notifications
Just looking forward, i know
None of the current testers access got revoked yet afaik
Will test qualifications be issued soon
Invites are only issued when the developers need more active testers, if they have enough active testers then they won’t issue invites
Invites are not on any set schedule and the season of assembly being announced has no bearing on beta
Well, thank you for telling me


#beta-discussion message they've slowly been removing inactives for the past two months per this pinned message.
Hi
huh the kid has no role
Can I may a question
sure, if its related to beta
I don’t know how beta tester work this year
due to the change regarding the removing of beta testers in android, tgc might decide to not send invite waves this time, if they think they have enough testers.
I don't think the TGC will issue an invitation
So I then I play beta not gonna do the waves 🤔
Why don't I understand this?

😂😂 I mean this year tgc sent on beta updates how beta invites gonna work this year that reading I don’t understand it well?So can somebody explain what I need to do for staying on beta pls 😢
Gonna do beta waves this year one beta?
It depends on what device you use. If you use android, and you are already in beta, you dont need to do anything. If you are using ios, you must play regularly to stay in. If you can access beta right now, you don't need to worry about invite waves
I go #beta-announcements See the full message.
I’m on ios
Ohhh thank u aeras this is what I needed to know,Mystery I don’t understand very well english that’s why 😓
I understand your question a little bit, let me say a word: if the beta is updated, you cannot update the beta without an invitation letter, you still want the invitation letter and don’t know where to grab the invitation letter, or for us to help you do some questions ? do you mean this?
Oh, what's your language?
Also, earlier this morning i was thinking of the reason why so many chinese players exist in the game. Is it possible to extract the beta apk? 
This may be your illegal server, I cut you or delete the information.
what, can you explain what you mean? I don't understand
mane
@quick harbor bruh you know downloading APKs is against the Terms of Service, right? It could cause a lot of performance, account and malware issues for you. Trying to use APKs will result in download problems and may result in account data loss and inability to contact TGC support. APKs cannot be used to bypass the device incompatibility and do not help TGC with beta testing at all. Please don't use them or discuss them here.
it's probably best not to make assumptions though
generalizing people with a broad brush like that can be harmful
Can you guys explain to me in beta about the chevron thingy in wax?
Shiro, could you possibly edit or remove your last post? It is indeed insensitive and probably could cause alot of discomfort and possible misunderstanding. 
Thank you.
You can check this convo thread. Someone asked about it earlier and there was some discussion and explanation on it #beta-discussion message
i just witnessed the dragon in home completely spazz out in zigzags all over the map and disappear. i honestly don't know what to say to that 😶
egg that happens to me if I minimize app and reopen it while the dragon is there 
i wasn't even minimized it just happened randomly 
The dragon partied a little too hard 
maybe a bit of network lag then
it zooms fast to catch up
maybe a server merge?
i don't think it was a server merge, i was alone. i'll assume lag then
The dragon wanted to have some fun and zooooom
Wanted to majestically skate across the sky like the little girl. 
maybe the dragon drank too much coffee and got hyper
Maybe the network delay is possible, if you have network delay, more than 800 ms has been, and then change to 20 ms directly.
im afraid i don't understand what that mean but i'll go with that as my answer lol 👍
Dang that was a long discussion
Thanks
I think that is most accurate
today i finally got 10 wedges on beta
||i ascended right after||
or drank too much baijiu
is it me or you guys also experience that you got merge server in home while talking to my friend at home suddenly she disappear and merge to other server? -beta version
i don't think that's ever happened to me tbh, not at home. i guess it's possible though?
Weeks ago yes, but lately... nope it didn’t happen.
“Stringing”Server Problem
I think the only times this has happened at home is when I might have a network problem. It appears that I alone have been shifted off to another server where I am alone. My microwave can induce this problem when I’m on a 2.4GHz wifi system. However, recenlty (?a month?), this seems common in other areas with groups...where the entire group of 5,6,7 or 8 people are split to completely different servers. ....that situation I can’t associate with a local network problem.
happens a lot when one of you has a poor network and will be sent alone
Wow each one of them are split to different servers? It's never happened to me.
well the one with poor network is sent alone kinda "offline"
Interesting....Yeah,... I’d say maybe once daily or at least every other day now. I haven’t been keeping track, but recently it seems like it’s been better. Improvement might be correlated time wise to recent server changes...idk
it's not a beta-only problem, i'm generally seeing full-server splits at least once or twice per full candle run in live these days (a group of players holding hands suddenly all get split to their own isolated instances of the map)
Yes.. And not just when entering an area... But in the middle of the run.. Ur friend vanishes 🙄
correct me if I'm wrong but inactive players don't put any load on the servers tho, do they? they probably just take up a miniscule bit of database space but that's probably not an issue seeing how they can store the info of millions of players in live?
Not in the servers, but the Game itself because It has a download limit because it's beta
But yeah, beta doesnt affect the live servers at all because it's a separate game
so back in feb/march of last year they did an android stress test in beta right before the global launch. we had hundreds of thousands of active beta players at once. the beta servers can handle a much bigger load than is actually active at any given time. last I checked we were around 20-30,000 between both android and ios when we were still doing access wipes and new invites between seasons
Nice !
Hey guys what r u talking about
nothing currently
sometimes beta chat be quiet like that
oh it’s a few hours ago
Can we appreciate tgc for all the cool stuff they've been doing even tho they are a small team
For example?
The seasons lol
And events
THE GAME LOL
What have the Romans done for us?
They put out content alarmingly fast actually. I'm always surprised how quickly the next event comes like how are they handling all this at once mindblown
Good project planning and work distribution.
So how many staffs there in their company?
Was that Life of Brian
?
We had so much event and item lately compared to last year when i joined
can’t wait the tree at home
So do I
Tgc has roughly 40 devs right now iirc.
Does tgc outsource work to offshore locations?
I see,thank you
how about the cooperation with NetEase
iirc everything is done in house, netease is just a publisher
maybe still a little I think
Are you trying to get at something?
Nope
Hey guys, new here. Anyone knows what should I do if I received this after clicking the new invites icon? Sky: Children of the Light: Beta Invites: This self assignable role has been configured to require another role by the server admins.
You need to be a little bit more active on the server. It's good to familiarise yourself with the bug report channels, for example. But just generally knowing your way around on the server for future feedback and bug reports, is good 🙂
Ahhh I see. Thanks!!

Cooperation with netease is for the chinese version of the game. The global version is handles by TGC only.
NetEase just help manage the running but they don’t help dev the game in itself iirc
yes of course
It would be nice if the company could just release the game in China
Every country has its own policies and it’s better not to make assumptions or criticize/be sarcastic without understanding the context. 
I would like to ask a question about the farming method that you want to implement in Sky 
Yes? What would you like to know?
I wanted how much time the new method would save compared to the current one
It’s still under balancing so it’s hard to tell with its status quo. But doing 2 major realms would get you around 10 candles starting from full chevron if I’m not mistaken. This is subject to change too
just calm down
I’m perfectly calm I don’t see what you are referring to
Emma explained it pretty calmly I think
probably best to drop this topic though since Netease is a different server and this discord is for the global version 
Just wait until Netease makes a chinese discord 
Your message implied TGC chose to not release global to China which is a little insensitive, since it's against their control. It used to be available globally until recently due to stuff we shouldn't discuss here (global politics). 
if I farm 2 worlds I usually get 8 candles, the question was something that came to my mind really there wasn't much of a problem if it couldn't be answered anyway thank you very much 
depends how you farm really - do you do full runs? you won't notice a difference. do you only run a few realms? you get more candles faster! mind you right now we're testing only a part of the new system, and when everything is implemented "everything we know about how to cr will be obsolete" as the focus is on player freedom rather than preset routes that you grind every day
sorry I mess it up
I managed to get a good like 5-6 candles just with home space and 2 trials the other day
the new daily light system is definitely really great for people who don't farm everything
at the moment I farm all the worlds in a row so I wanted to know if it would take a long time to do that with the new method
It's the same amount of time anyways, just the speed you get candles is faster at the beginning and slows down at the end
It would take about the same time for you if you do full cr
You will notice a significant slowing down after a while. The new system is meant to make it easier to choose any realm to candle run, instead of having to do all.
we don't know what a full run will look like with the new system, as wax is added and moved around in the realms (think cakes galore in trials)
Yeah, I'm already not candle running like normal in beta. I skip the places that don't yield much wax for the time. (Like the scattered candles in Coliseum)
I don’t get those on Live either cuz use up a lot of flaps 
And I have begun visiting Vault more often.
Vault is
in beta. 
I prefer running in beta to live at the moment because of the chevron system, can't wait until it hits live
gathering feels a lot nicer
A question that just came to mind, would you get the same amount of candles even skipping some parts?
I still prefer cr on live cuz I mostly do full cr. And full cr on beta on the last bit with 0 chevron is just 
Vault in Beta 
Vault in Live 
true, I wouldn't want to do full runs with the system as that last candle must be a real pain 
anyway the best way to draw conclusions is when it comes out in the global version 
well the trials all the candle cakes are right next to each other at the end so it wouldn't make much sense to skip any candles there 
Yeah, 0 chevron is pretty bad. I hope they adjust the system when you don't hit 0 chevron at 15 candles for the day soon... Even bumping chevron tiers to 6 each instead of 5 might help the system a little bit.
Beta has less candles than Live if you do full cr in its status quo. As I said it’s not accomplished system yet, still under balancing so we can’t tell for sure at the moment
Tgc give us our Vault candles and Trial candles pls I beg u I haven't eaten candles in 9 days I am starving ||this is a joke||
Also, I streamed beta to my japanese friends a while back and something they noticed at the end of the fire trial was that the candles could've been organized better, they look too... squished together...
Or disable 0 chevron altogether and just keep us at 1 chevron...
I love the "bed" of cakes at the end of fire trial, it's nice to jump into 
Please keep in mind, the cakes that were added for daily light are placeholders until the design team can put proper candles/wax sources there.
Bed 🛏 Sneeping on a candle bed: ult dream of a skykid 
Oh, is it okay to stream video of me playing beta to my friends if they're okay with seeing spoilers? Normally is when we are vibing vc cause I already finished cr in live
I would prefer something like when you hit 0 chevron that means you hit the hard cap.
i like cakes too, easier to light them than bending over all those individual one.
0 chevron gives me pretty much the feeling of hitting the hard cap rn so might as well set it as a hard cap. True 
I guess it is fine. As long as you tell people there might be spoilers in advance
Nice to see that beta chat has returned to its former calmness 
I think 0 is the "soft cap." Maybe instead of 18+ a day they want us to aim for 10 or 15? As those are the current chevron tier drops.
But at the same time if it’s 15 per day it’ll make it harder to save candles for ts and events stuff. That means even more grinding
Maybe they should do a 15% price drop on things like TS and event igc stuff then? (Due to less candle target)
Is it easier for u to get 15 in beta than live?
15 seems to be the even point for me. I barely hit 15 candles in either of my CR (beta or live). I am one of those who only run 1 to 2 realms a day, max.
Getting 10 is easy on beta, 15 is not so easy. I remember one day doing full cr on beta and forged at last and I got a lil over 16 candles and I’m 
Yeah, the 10-15 part is around half the accrual of live. Takes somewhere near 300 wax balls to get one candle. (Disclaimer: This is talking about a feature still in development and these numbers may change before hitting live)
So it’s why TGC add candle cakes in trials and vault
Not really, they added them so if you like those places you can go there and earn candles, not just in wax dense realms.
It’s just that at the moment I don’t feel the second half of my full cr on beta very rewarding. But again it’s still under balancing, so I’ll wait and see what’s yet to come
Imagine: #beta-announcements has a balancing update with whatever comes out next. Each chevron tier is now 7 candles each.
(joke, not a real event... Unless... Nah, most likely won't happen)
Just my wish: I want it to be more like “spending time with friends” gives 0.5 candles, “playing instrument” 0.5 candles, “chat with strangers on a bench” 0.5 candles, “spam emotes” 0.5 candles. But again social activities are hard to measure, and I’m afraid it will turn into some chore similar to “daily quests” if it’s really implemented like this. So hmmm I don’t really know 
Win hide and seek as the hider: 1 candle. Find a friend in hide and seek: 0.25 candles.
I’m already not a fan of the sit on a bench with a stranger quest for example. I can count on one hand how many times i managed to have longer conversation after the quest than ”hi” and “thanks” because everyone does it for the quest. Not because they want to. So rewarding social activities can be quite tricky i agree Emma. 
Hide and seek but you wont lose servers ... imagine that
Then skykids could spend all day playing hide and seek 
Yes you are right
I would. 
yeah i agree pakka. especially with the hold hands with 4 players quest. a lot of my friends just skip that one because of how tedious it is. when i used to try and friend players for it, i would never interact with them afterwards. it didn't push me to make close friends, just superficial ones, which isn't what i want in sky
I did remember Ktjn mentioned they wanted to reward social activities. But we do those activities for fun for the moment. I’m not sure that linking it with in-game currency gain would be a great idea either. It somehow diminishes the emotional value behind these activities too
server split warning
Me : invites all my friends for hide n seek in beta.
Everyone: chibi in sneak stance.
I usually use the play dead and hide in wall trick for hide and seek 
So where are you chillin now? at the prairie?
greatest strategy is just flying away from the seeker of course
or changing your spot constantly
Holding hands surprisingly was never a problem for me, but a lot of friends warped to us usually just to get the quest done. Which is ok I’m glad to help but at least a Hi-Thanks-Bye would be nice or an emote
not just joining grabbing hands and leaving without a word. So from that side it’s not always a good quest agree. However it has some motivational effect to join someone’s activity when normally you wouldn’t do it.
I friended two players during my moth time for the 4 player handhold quest. We never really talked and they went inactive for pretty long time. But recently one of them became active again, and so we started talking to each other. She’s among my favorited friends now. It’s heartwarming
It’s rare occurrence but when it happens it brightens your day
Everywhere when I feel like it. Sometimes when I cr with friends I just stop halfway and start chilling with them
Remember to put feedback about these things in the feedback channels!
your language organization skills are good
I had that today.
My friend I met in Fire Trial when it released just got to me, did emote then went home...
When is the next beta invite wave gonna go out
@alpine prawn no one here knows when beta invites come. TGC doesn't give announcements. You can read more about how it works in #beta-faq (and #beta-announcements too)
I wish double candles event would come again, just like it did around after rhythm ended like for quests
Back in Season of Prophecy beta testing, I suggested they add more incentive to the trials because I feared many players would complete them once and then move on. Now that candle cakes have been added this might encourage players to revisit and possibly mix up their candke run maps. I still enjoy the cave of prophecies and usually spend 10 to 15 minutes per day there, just chilling. However, sometimes a friend will warp to me, act surprised and ask what I’m doing there...haha. I guess it’s a good thing they’re rethinking the wax collecting system, it seems to be a priority for many players to the point of just running through maps to collect balls of light. A shame really, considering the beauty of Sky!
I get it tho. Prophecy cave (trials) could be traumatizing to many, to the point that they wouldn’t want to go back 
Trials nowadays will be a place where I'll take moffs for training before sending them to eden

I feel like it was ✨designed✨ for it
The fact it’s in Isle 🤔 which is basically a tutorial place in Sky
there's a violin coming to sky?
The double candle event was specifically to celebrate the android launch, we don’t know if the devs would repeat that kind of event again
If there’s no confirmation/announcement from the TGC part then let’s not make assumptions and patiently wait for the content release 
Thought it was for the arrival of spring or some but i was pretty much a moth back then (born into richness and double wax
). However android arrived with spring too
it was nice to get 2 candles for the valley races 
The only reason I wanna get into beta is....
To be a moff again 
Being a moff again is indeed something. I loved every bit of it
Beta is for testing, not being a moff again
Be a moff beta, they only wear orange cape
But you gotta go through being a moth again before you begin testing 
when i first joined beta i felt like i was reliving every inch of sky i experienced from when i first downloaded sky 
Welp if you can be a moff again and help testing it’s even better 
Imagine joining beta before download real game
That has happened
dark go to sleep
Irrelevant to the channel
You don't need to do that, just make another sky account. My big sis recently made a 3rd account and I asked her why a third and she said that she wanted to feel like a moth again. Bruh, you'll never get that same feeling back.
yes but u start over that's what I meant, I wanna experience being a moff cause you have a fresh new start once you join beta right?
just make a new sky acc!!
Beta is for testing, not as a secondary account
Yes, you can sigh in with the same account
They were talking about something else
Oooo
ehm, why all the krill ping reacts on this.. did i ping the person I replied to?? this has happened before too 🤣 i thought i turned it off?
Yes I know, what I'm trying to say is, if I'm correct, your data doesn't transfer from live to beta, so that means you have to start a new journey so you become a moff, and you don't have your data from live
Yes, that's correct, if you've never been on the beta version before, you'll start over as a new account. If you have been on beta before and linked it to google or game center or something, you can continue from your saved account if you're still linked to it
i ran out of words while trying to say something like this
haha thanks
👀
its been 6 hours since the last message, please do not cold ping people when the topic has clearly been dropped
Quoting back to what you first said, you said you wanted to join beta to be a moth again, but you could become a moth in live again, just make another account, we might not get an invite wave. It's best for you to just make another account, since beta is for testing. 
Yeah, taking up an invite slot just to be a moth is breaking the spirit of what beta is meant for: testing.
Unless you're here to test upcoming stuff, best to return to moth in live instead
Returning to moth on beta and having the chance to experience it all again is just a small treat ^•^
speaking of moth, I haven't even completed any of my constalls here
maybe i misunderstood but i think they know beta is for testing and they were simply just lightly mentioning the fact you start out as a moth 
yes yes, i was also interested in testing. so not just becoming a moth
is it just me or does it feel like people come in here to spam emojis until they get access to beta-invites and then never come back to chat again lol
You don't need beta to recreate the new player experience if you're looking for a hit of nostalgia from your moth days. At the end of the day, beta is for testing and feedback to help the studio create the best experiences in Sky. Our hope is that, regardless of what motivates someone to be a beta tester, that they also stick around to play regularly and give feedback on their experience and submit bug reports in the event they encounter issues while playing.
I love testing for beta because I like being useful and I like when people need my help that’s why I do beta. Plus hunting for bugs is fun
Sorry, the verbiage implied the only reason was to experience being a moth again. 
sometimes i only refer to one thing in a topic im talking about so it gets confusing hehe..
The only "wrong" way or reason to participate in Beta is to not play at all. Although different information could be gathered from that, but has a very different impact/purpose than what we're usually asking for which is feedback and bug reports.
yeah, cause im guessing its that you take up a space and not even play at all so its wasting space
Yeah
but inactives for android are already doing that so i wonder how much space they take up
after all they kinda just accumulate over time
So what if there’s a down period where the devs are working on new content, would you be more lenient on being active during that period?
Android inactives is different from ios inactives, ios have a max limit on beta testers
yeah, so do android inactives affect the test server in any way since they just sit there? is what im asking
Most people quit beta after they have completed what they wanted to do. For example many beta testers stop after they have completed the season they test. They ask us to stay active so that all can benefit and not just one person
Remember to treat others with kindness and not assume malice when someone says or does something that doesn't match how you'd say or do something.
i doubt most beta players actually opt out of the program when they're done, but anyway thats not even really what im asking or talking about
Sorry if I didn’t answer what you were asking I was just trying to be helpful and inform you. I do know many people do this because o have friends on beta who do that.
My hypothesis: I think most players do not want to quit the plan after completing the test, but wait for the next test
Most likely not. Save data shouldn't be more than 20kb or so maximum. So an inactive player won't affect the server that much compared to taking a slot up when Testflight's limit is 10,000 users per Apple's site. (Edit: I don't know if that is a "fake" public limit on their Testflight info page or if the limit can be raised by Apple since I don't have an Apple Dev account and don't have an app on Testflight.)
I think a lot of people are focused on/feel entitled to beta like it's a feature or extension of the live game, which it is not. It's an environment to ultimately serve development needs. Some studios never do any kind of public testing and they produce amazing games. Having a public beta means we can feedback earlier to make an even better experience than what the design team envisioned during development. It also means issues can be spotted and fixed sooner. It can also be used as hype-generating tool, though that's more of a fringe benefit than a primary goal.
ahh yes thanks this is what i wanted to know! this is v helpful info
Would you guys ever go to closed beta?
When will the beta be updated?
I've seen a lot of people placing blame of google for how they manage their platform for beta, but honestly it's a lot more developer friendly than apple's arbitrarily determined hard cap of x amount of testers. We put a lot of time and effort to keep things reasonably fair between platforms.
no
I've also seen concern that android would drown out ios testers because there are more of them that have access, but this has been the case since we started android testing a year and a half ago and only because of the recent announcement does this concern come to light, the reality has been the same this entire time, but perception has suddenly skewed. Again, this goes back to apple's strictly enforced hard cap of testers per title. There's a bit of a misconception that inactive android testers will suddenly "rush" the beta server, but the reality is most people look at a beta once or twice and never return. It takes a certain mindset to willingly play the same game twice on an extended, regular basis and the experience isn't for everyone.
So I read the new system for beta testing and I don’t really understand it could anyone explain
active testers are no longer removed for either platform. inactive iOS testers are periodically removed to make room for new iOS testers. inactive Android testers are no longer removed because Google does not have a strictly enforced hard cap to test group size.
How do you determine who is active or not?
Yes, it is an experience... One most people won't want to do. Thank you for the clarification. As someone who develops kernels for a hobby, I was prepared for what beta had in store. Things breaking, sometimes not being able to play, (prophecy floor is lava event, Android 11's crash issue, etc) and the double play can deter a good amount of people who never dove into the development cycle before.
Server load, in the event every inactive tester ever suddenly tried to rush to download the latest update, would not be impacted by this.
Oh ok so if I have actively updated my beta this whole time I’m active?
"active" just means you play regularly. I'm not going into any further detail so people can't game the system to avoid being kicked out while not contributing to beta in any meaningful way.
I understand thank you so much for your help I honestly didn’t understand what they meant
most people think of beta as early access (like you might see on steam) or a free demo, neither of which are the case, and that's okay! If they log in and play, that time still has value, even if it's shortlived.
well mostly i want to join beta to find some bugs and submit a bug report so experience will not be that bad when it updates , no i do not know what im saying
i knew i forgot something today. i was gonna go get wing lights today on beta and totally forgot oof. this was interesting to backread though
learning new stuff about beta
i always forget stuff like that dw
this, so much
but yeah, i think this is what quests are trying to do but ppl just sit and the bench and go, so maybe quantifying (?) activities like that would just make things worse
ah the edit turned the ping ok, but i hope that's ok since i see u typing anyway
got on beta for 2.5 seconds. i do not think im getting wl tonight. maybe tomorrow
pspsps motivation where did u go
I just got on beta just to go through valley races cause I was wondering about how the end race candles work now :'0c
I should've went through the races with max chevron-
we interact with each other just for fun rather than for candles
i actually joined beta a year ago because the android beta opened up and at the time i was playing live on a borrowed is device and wanted to experience sky on my own phone 
Thanks Ktjn, those words are very empathetic and heartwarming
to be honest when I got into beta for the first time I didn’t fully understand what I really signed up for (although I did carefully read through beta-faq), and a part of the reason was indeed for early access/demo cuz I was curious about new season content. But with time I started to like the bug hunting and participating in the dev process. It’s just so much fun. And all these friends I made along the way are a great treasure to me. I already loved Sky a lot before being a beta tester, and beta testing just makes my game experience more wholesome and get me to love Sky more
for the efforts and details behind it, and for all the wonderful experiences it brought to so many people all over the world
of course, i just think it'd be nice if we could somehow let people chill in the game however they want instead of feeling like they have to candle run instead (ofc not everyone is like that), and maybe rewarding candles for engaging in the other aspects of sky would help encourage that? but yeah, i wouldn't want something like hanging out to be turned into an "economic" thing
Wait, is it not possible to lock someone out of the game for android? In a way so it appears to be "kicking"
Than not
I feel like the most difficult thing to balance ever, is that some people like to, as Ktjin says, "game the system", while the majority wants a casual experience
The 'gamers' have the advantage at all times over the majority, so it's very hard to create an experience that pleases everyone
just like daily tasks, i hold hands with three players for candles, it didn’t work on improve interaction,it make interactive experience become a task
i do have a unique advantage of having been around so long that i can play more casually now because i own must everything in the game at this point. so all the candles i do earn get spent almost immediately on friendship upgrades and i often only candle run if im going with friends
newer player though have so much more content to catch up on between events coming almost back to back and new seasons and TS on top of the base game stuff
The seasonal candle conversion should help most players though. I barely touched regular constellations because: beta. With dreams' end, I used a good chunk of my candles to get all candle nodes done and still have some left over to send hearts to friends each day since.
Will new qualifications be issued these days? I can’t wait
Beta is a free trial to be tortured by bugs so the folks on live dont suffer
Carefully, they are heroes.
Yep,they’re a part of the contributors to the great sky environment and i want to be one of
somethingsomething not all heroes wear capes...but in Sky they do 
So, will beta eligibility be released this week
. . . . you. . .
what about those gremlin skykids that go capeless
couldn't be me
This isn't information we provide in advance, make sure you have the appropriate roles from #beta-faq and turn notifications on, that is the best and fastest way to be informed.
Many people suddenly asked about the invitation letter
I used to be like this, now I understand
I'm very worried of being kicked out because I stopped playing beta because my phone was robbed this Friday 😭😭😭
Well, I asked a stupid question
Android testers don’t need to be worried about getting kicked out due to Google’s beta testing management system. So a few days of inactivity should be fine anyways 
Unless they completed vault and spent 999 hearts in beta. 
Technically they still have a cape, just that it’s invisible
Invisible cape is the weird vigilante, while capeless players are the villains except not because sky has no villains
From now on, I will call the invisible cape: Emperor's New Cape. 
ok maybe i shouldn't go capeless for fun then. maybe 1 wing cape for fun 
But, villains have all the fun, kai.
please give me a chance to be a hero ,i want to wear emperor’s new cape 😋
If the game crashes, a report is sent to the devs regardless of whether there's a bug report?
Sometimes there are bugs I just don't know how to reproduce
I don’t know how it works on Android but on iOS when game crashes, you have a pop-up that asks if you want to send the crash info to devs. I usually choose yes, and also bug report on discord, providing as many details as I can
In Android, the game just crashes
There is a setting in Developer options for Android "Always show crash dialog" which should force the app crash pop up. It does for me, at least. I've sent a few crashlytics to TGC that way.
i rarely crash. literally the only crashes I've had were when literally everyone was crashing
which is good for me! idk if my reports would make much difference at that point if everyone's crashing though since it's not a device end issue
My phone only experienced two crashes: the random GW one I got once before it was fixed and the Android 11 crash that was short lived. (Edit) forgot about the floor is lava crash also. 
new updoot 
-Season of Assembly content
-Days of Bloom content
-New cosmetics, expressions, and quests
-Updates to Daily Light system and its UI elements
-Eden loop fix changes
-Expressions can be used when seated
updoot???? updoot!!!!
beta wake up! we got things to do!
!betasupdatewhen
Huge update by the looks 👀
oooh Daily Light tweak
So. If I get back into beta program, will I get to keep my account
Who, what, where? Oh, right, Android... I'll install it whenever Google decides to let us. 
Wait is it in the channel? Or do I have to go to beta myself? It's kinda 11pm here...
Cries in Android
Floor is lava best bug yet
i should be excited about season and events, but expressions while sitting 
Oooh. Can’t wait to test
Eden loop fixes... Time to go die 4 times in a row again. 
I once sent 3-5 crash reports in a row and then gave up because I figured it would bother TGC more than help as I could not do anything in game without crashing. I probably could have logged over 10 if I really wanted to
Uzephi take me with you! But not at 5am thanks
what does that even m e a n 
Can’t even wait for new testing!!!
i guess we'll have to find out 
4am okay? 
I don't think my mom would let me steal my phone again 
i wanna come. I'm probably banned from coming
yay a update i hope we can get the sticks
don't worry if you can't test right now. it'll still be here in the morning. also kai go sleep
woah serveral honks are typng, whats going on here 
Kai go sneep ignores my own clock
oh pog new update? time for all bugs to break lose
We can set a good time aside. My GF needs to go anyway.
Beta updoot 
Omg updoot I thought it was a joke at first 
pspsps deli we should add each other on beta 
Why sneep? It's only 21:25. 


Time to wait an hour for google 
Im waiting krilltjn is typing in beta update
My TestFlight didn’t even send me notif RIP
thank god there’s kanpai
01:25 here 
I'm not friends with Deli on beta yet
Don't make us activate skybot triggers go sneep
Yess and we can use the tea set to have tea partys with crabs 
1:30am let's see when google will let us update 
The what
SCREAMS YES
Its still on version 0.12.2
I mean I'm kinda sus
Season of assembly?!
and ping! time for everyone to wake up, lets gooooo 
Yay
I came here from beta to ask if anyone else had a daily light change and now I know why 

Ahhhhhh updatesss

season of assembly here i come

Aawww cries in android
Assembly time?
It’s 4am
I’ll do it when I’m awake
see you then
cries in android
Time to test 
damn how big is the file
this taking a while
Cries in having missed beta invite wave
Ooh new season! I have tests and busy homework this week but I’ll try to hop on this weekend to test 
I'm back in sky. here to help TGC again. i took a break for a month and here I'm again. let's do our best this season!!
new ui??
testing time beta buddies! 
WOOOOO
Yesss I would love that 
emotes can be used when,, laying down,,,
Saplings 
though I’ll check very quickly
then sleep
There’s already a known issue
Season of Assembly !!! 
helloo fellow sky kids