#beta-discussion
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i'm on an s10+ and my gameplay is decent. although i've recently seen some major frame drops in certain areas that were not present in beta, which was strange. i'm now monitoring my fps while i do runs in beta to compare. it would be great if my game wouldn't crash everytime i use gpu watch
but what the game is trying to do in 60fps: it's trying to correct the frame so it looks like the 30fps version but thats why the stuttering happens
that is also what i do but i dont have that happen except in village of dreams (because of the snow difference). do you have snapdragon or exynos?
snapdragon
oh weird. i also have a snapdragon and its like always between 40-60fps on 60fps mode. but thats basically because s10s are old lol
the frame drops were happening in all of valley for live, running at 40 fps instead of 60. i think its been somewhat fixed, but it really shouldn't be dropping to 40, especially since it was running smoothly last season. nothing unusual in beta so far though. hopefully it stays that way
hmm. it might be the textures loading in. im pretty sure they fixed it so it loads in when you are way closer to them
hmm... perhaps. i'm just curious why it started happening this season. i didn't have any frame drops in sanctuary except when the mantas went overboard in beta
or in prophecy
i have framedrop in office when i light the cannon
goes all the way down to 10 lmaoo
ill go check it again they may have fixed it. also just found out sky beta is a version behind live
beta will sometimes fall behind live once live gets patch updates. lots of behind the scenes stuff that we don't see 
it went down to 30 fps this time
improvements, yay! 
in the home area i have 60fps forever now!!!! IMPROVEMENTTTTTSS 
well between 58-60 but its good :O
i understand the fps is never going to be perfect but an fps between 50-60 is probs really good
the one place where it always visibly lags for me is sanctuary
just did a playthrough of isle and had a 51-60 so i expect that for every realm except maybe valley and wasteland
i forgot about the rain in forest haha had a 30fps there
That sounds like something is definitely wrong if your S10 has issues in places like that. My lower end Pixel 3a gets 30fps across the board unless screen recording.
but in high def 30fps mode it doesnt frame guess it stays at a consistent 38fps there
so much I want to do to help but I feel lazy
omg i really want to be a beta player
soon
really? bcs i saw the last wave is january last year



The most recent invite wave was in December 2020 (around 2 months ago). They do access wipes and re-invite people after each seasonal cycle now to give different players a chance. We don't know exactly when the next invite wave will begin, but it will likely be sometime around when Dreams is close to ending in live, before they start testing for the next season

I'm excited to see #screenshots-and-videos flooded with Final Quest's photos 
~~I sure can't wait for #general-sky-discussion to be hyped ~~ oh wait I sure can't wait for #cozy-sky-discussion to be hyped, I can already feel the 2 minute cooldown, oh wait we already have that 
is anyone experiencing lack of input on android...? changing flight modes/jumping sometimes dont register, so i keep bonking into walls... not sure if this is just my phones issue or an actual beta bug
edit: definitely not my phones issue. its less prevalent on the live version, just checked
I just wanted to clarify that I never suggested blocking chat in Eden.
I said that I saw people saying they liked hanging out and chatting in Eden, which would in turn affect other players in the same distance not being able to proceed to Orbit. It's the same effect as someone being afk.
idk if i wanted to tell this in live chat or not but- it looks like tgc took out the part where our skykid was sitting with the other spirits and cheered fro the skater girl in live
Has the final quest already been released to Live? I thought it was next Monday. I do know the scene changed after the first release here in beta, but I deliberately didn’t check it because I wanted to experience it anew in Live.
at the end what happened to the sleeveless dress? 
Spoiler rules don't apply to this channel, yes?
Blep, it is now in Live. Yes, it does appear to be different. I also don't remember it having the same ending after the performance.
Kokichi, yes, you don't have to spoiler in #beta-discussion .
Fkjoey, what happened with the sleeveless dress is that it was temporarily removed from beta as it is was not fully implemented and not ready. It was not meant to be in beta yet. When it is ready we will see it. No one knows when that will be.
Hmm , when will the new season start in Beta?
There’s still 27 days left in Live.
season of dreams was teased around 15 to 20 days left of prophecy in live
but don't use that comparison cause they can make the gap between seasons as long as they like
Ok .Thank you Khe!
Welp, quests for Dream Season has concluded in live and my friends love it! 😊... except for my one friend who always think everything sucks, but that's beside the point. Damn can't wait for more to come. Hope I will still be around for beta. 😅
Today I literally dreamed ... that the two hats were released ... for everyone ;-;😭 
I'm tired of exclusives and benefits for a specific region
they have another company under them...
Not really beta related, though. 😉
My advice is always: Be happy for others.
wouldnt make sense for our version to have their stuff since its also contextually relevant to their region (kizuna having a collab with netease & not tgc, lightseekers extra mask to celebrate a chinese festival, so on)
Wonder what new stuff they're gonna do next after Dreams
Hiiii does anyone know why can't I enter Eden when I already have the needed light amount? I'm confused (╥﹏╥)
Just a question though. Is there some kind of reset from our progress in beta?
Is this in beta only? Or the same thing happens in Live?
But everything seems fine in Live. Been to Eden recently so maybe just a beta problem
Um, if ever there's a beta invite again, as long as I have the app, I'm still okay...?
you'd have to accept the new beta invite wave to continue being able to download new versions of the app -- if you miss out on getting one of the new invites, then you can only play until they update the minimum required version to continue beta testing
When do they usually start inviting again?
when they need testers for a new season
Only in beta (。ŏ﹏ŏ)
How many wl do you have? Maybe try going through Vault, or collecting more wl. Also, just restarting the app often helps.
I have now 75 and if I'm not mistaken I only need 20 to enter, I can see the barrier through the closed door and it shows 20/20. So I really don't know what's the issue 😥
The door is closed? Did you finished Vault with meditation at the end?
The door shouldn’t be closed, yeah.
Oooo wait I'm not sure, maybe that's the probleeem! Ayyyy thank you so much guys I'm so stupiiiiiid 🙈✨
Give it a try and let’s hope it will open as it should

i remember someone mentioning a similar problem: i forget if it's just meditating you need to do, or whether you actually need to proceed through the eden gate from the end of vault to trigger the flag properly (i.e. after meditating, do not go home or close the game, but instead walk through the 20-WL spirit gate you see in the ruined vault room)
!whenisnextbetaupdate

How to get into beta?
Please read #beta-faq in its entirety if you're interested in the beta program, it explains everything you need to know about it 
We don't know exactly when the next invite wave will come, but there will be an announcement beforehand, if you get the ping roles to be notified in the FAQ channel
@wide sable for your question regarding the dress, it’s no longer in beta. Taken out for further dev. And beta testers don’t know more than you do as to when the dress will go live.
You should be able to walk through the home portal at the end of vault and have the eden gate open up at home. The trigger is meditating at the summit.

In regards to "||hacked items||" that are currently beta locked or even not yet in beta, is this or any channel appropriate to ask about them? If not, I will just disregard the question entirely. In the last 7 months, today I came across my first live player using ||a hacked item|| but got my curiosity anyways. Thank you in advance.
!reportfaq we shouldn't discuss hacked items. We're advised to report and move on.
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
Generally, talking about hacks and hacked items is not really allowed here in this server. If you see anyone using an item that shouldn't be available in the game yet or seems suspicious, it's best to just report them in-game if you can and try not to bring too much attention to it. I suppose if you have questions for TGC about it, you could contact the helpbot to speak with a staff member. But they ask us not to speak about it here in detail
Thank you for letting me know. I will disregard my questions until they potentially become relevant to live or beta. Thank you very much for the feedback!
I also didn't know the item I saw was "hacked" at first, though I am sure the user knew what they were doing was wrong. So when I walked up to them and took a picture, surely they knew it was weird. They didn't light me though. So I never could click/report them. 
I’m tentatively back. the channel name changed, was there that much off topic here?
beta related note: is anyone on android 11 and noticed weird things I should look out for between live and beta now that my android’s updated to 11
A lot of general chat discussion were happening here after the messge shrine patch went to live i believe. Android 11 i don't know anything about. Still stuck at 10. 
I just got the android 11 update this morning! haven’t actually been on sky on my android since I updated yet though. haven’t seen any updates so i assume nothing specifically new to test in beta in the last week at least 
Android 11's built in recorder is a huge i/o resource hog.(25mbps write to your swap file while recording and 40mbps when saving to a permanent file) Other than that, not much difference. (That much i/o overhead can cause slight stutters when loading in an area or new assets)
Welcome back, btw. 
I might still take more of a break if there’s nothing to test right now
I really should aadd some of my beta friends on live tho since I havent seen yall in a week oof
I'm perpetually broke in live. No motivation to do a CR compared to beta. I love the new DL system too much. 
it’ll probably be a while before that goes live but yeah I love it so far in beta. I have way more candles solo running in beta that I ever would in live. I only have candles on live because of ubers right now
Im the total opposite, what's wrong with me
I haven't found anything super interesting lately in beta so I would say take your time if you need a break or recovery after the crazy eden week 
I told myself I wouldn’t do eden again for a while after that and went back into eden like 4 more times this week. I’m not good at this break thing. and #known-issues implies there will be more eden updates 
After all of our beta Eden testing, I didn't want to do it for awhile also... Then my GF said she ran out of AC (in live) and needs to do Eden this TS to get AC. 
oh yeah I remembered. two of my star pins still don’t work in beta but ThatSkyShop is looking into it at least. They thought it was weird they work in live not beta too. (edit: the warp and piggyback spells from anniversary pack don’t work on beta. my “you and i” pin, earth day cape, light seekers cape, and weasel mask all work on beta and live now)
welcome back kai! hopefully your star pins issue gets fixed soon 
Yeah, that's sad yours are locked out of beta. Mine just desynced due to a counter error and was able to rebind.
Hi Kai! I haven't been on beta much but I'm on everyday in Live. Please, feel free to dm me anytime I'd you'd like.☺
just a quick question about the new candle collecting system in beta- about how long does it take in beta right now to get 10ish candles? i know the system will still likely undergo some major revamps, but i’m just curious about what it’s like right now!
it took me roughly 2 realms to get to 10 candles. i haven't been paying too close attention to which realms they were though 
okay, thank you though!
If one of them is the cake realm i would say 1,5 but yeah something like what Areas said.
Yeah, cake realm itself is around 6-8 candles, second realm you run would give you 3-4. Remember, these numbers can and most likely will change as the system gets further balancing and more wax is added.
Maybe when you go into the gondola to turn off the rain in the broken bridge area, instead of turning off the rain, the rain turns into wax rain and can give you up to half a candle's worth of wax. 
My favorite thing about the new DL system is collecting candle cakes with 3 chevrons. 
And then your chevrons are down to 2 in no time 
yeesss its so satisfying. cakes at 0 chevrons however...
Cakes at 0 are still better than big plants in waste with 0
I did Ark with 0 chevron yesterday and it gave not even a quarter of a candle 
oh, ark would be an interesting place for more wax. dark plants everywhere 
I suggested a large plant in the big open area. Maybe more suggestions for ark will make it get the wax it deserves?
i think the devs were going for a kind of desolate feeling in that area, so i don't know if adding a huge plant in the middle would work. although, a big plant curling up and around the anchor would be super cool
I really miss Ark before restitution. It was so beautifully desolate 
I sent some a little more hidden spots earlier in feedback, ark has a nice potential. What's frustrating tho with low chevron is missing a tiny bit to fill out your candle and you have to run a half realm for it. 
i hope whatever typo got my message eaten wasat least funny. what about more wax in the valley ice rink cave that jugglerspirit was in 
Honestly, coming from someone who lives in the middle of a desert (literally 30+ mile drive in either direction before seeing the next town) plants do grow in desolate places and the darkness plants could be those "plants that live where they shouldn't."
oh that would be nice too. a little less empty for those coming across it for the first time. i think i left feedback on the lightseekers tunnel in isle too. old spirit areas could definitely add some wax
That would be nice Kai I also suggested some hidden wax in Valley temple maze. I kinda like the maze. It’s fun to explore during my moth time
And maybe spread out wax already in Vault into that seasonal tunnel on first floor too. That’s a beautiful tunnel I love it
didnt ktjn say that vault was tricky because there can only be so many things and vault already has a lot of things 
I suggested wax in the two player puzzle exit in dawn. Out of the way and unless you wall fly with the clouds, you need 2 people to get there.
i'm really curious to see what the devs have in mind for 'new ways to get wax'. i just really want wax to rain down on me
light awaits games 

Greedy skykid you have Aeras
i would love similar quests like the fragment collecting ones were. Shame but everyone was occupied with the new season in beta and what did we do? Searching the invisible quest meditation spots 
I thought the balls of fireworks from the days of fortune dragon was a pretty cool way to get wax, I wouldn’t mind something similar in the realms, maybe the snow in the dreams village ?
That searching-for-invisible-meditation-spot-game was the most fun I’ve ever had 
i certainly missed something
It’s like solving an enigma. I got ecstatic when my sitting around at random spots finally got mini games activated 
oooh. i could see the medi spots
i thought yall were talking about something else. legit could see the circle when i got close myself
When the prairie ones were active actually all the other ones were too just with invisible spots. U had to sit in the right place and listen when u got the meditation sound. We found 15 i think.
that was also during the time where we got daily candles for reliving spirits. i remember people counting up how many candles total that would be and what was the best way to balance such a system. that was a fun concept 
Daily spirit runs
I miss those times
i mean, you can still do daily spirit runs. you just won't get anything for it
It was good to refresh my rusty memory. Just like when I started beta. I realized i forgot a lot.
It got emotional when I went to Ark for the first time in beta, cuz I’m an enchantment moth. I took a whole lot of videos
brought back so much good memories of my moth days
I thought you get one ball of wax when reliving spirits.
rhythm didn't really have an area but helping moths with rhythm ts is fun!
you get a ball of wax butit doesnt count in your candles its just a visual. only spirits woth wax right now that count are the cry and yawn emotes
Does anyone know when the dress will be coming to live?
The dress isn't in beta right now. We're just players like you, we just test things before they hit live. We only know what comes to live via official announcements like everyone else. 
How do I get beta
sorry if this is a dumb question, but is the shop in beta supposed to be down rn?
The shop works. You just can't buy candles since that would not help testing. You can still buy the founder's cape in the office, the starter cape, AP (if you haven't bought yet), and any event IAP items during events. (I don't think we have any going right now)
Think of your candle count as if we are testing as a f2p player... To make sure the worth of candles and hearts are adequate.
ah okay, well i dont see anything in the shop rn, like its just completely blank, i dunno if its a bug or if theres just nothing in the shop ^^;
That's normal in beta if you already "bought" the AP and starter cape.
ah ok, thank you xD sorry
Anyone hasn't finished the hold hand quest in beta yet willing to test out something with me?
here!
you mind me send you a code?
Next time, please ask in #beta-looking-for-group
Ok so if anyone hasn't finished the hold hand quest, please help offer to hold hand with one of your friend and record it, thanks
lol i mean it's ok to DM me
ok lol I saw the no react, a moment
Did the maintenance break already happen today for sky? Or it will be later?
测试服在什么频道
English please
it'll happen tomorrow at 2pm pst. but that's a question that would have been better suited in #questions-and-help 
Thanks with big hug 
(hoping that my translator worked) this is the channel where we talk about content that we are testing in beta! but invites will not happen for a while. read through #beta-faq to learn more about how to join the beta and what we testers do! 
yes skybot i'm aware 
@slim kayak, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
How can I join the iOS Beta
@rigid musk, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
Thanks for your help.
Normally when someone speaks other languages, people would go mod-mode like "no english, speak english or u warned" "check pins" "english flag emote" kind of energy 
The effort you made is 
Not all heroes wear cape and your kindness is appreciated

I'd love to hunt for invisible meditation circles and relive rich spirits on my daily runs again, those were exciting times
I guess 25 seasonals per day will suffice
What can be discussed here
we talk about anything that is currently being tested in the beta! right now, the only thing that is different from the official game is the new candle system
Got it. Thank you.
When is the wool hat launching?
21st, 12 noon PST per the schedule in #news
Not sure if I'm allowed to ask, but is portrait mode ever going to be in live?
probably not properly until they get it on android too. you can bootleg portrait mode on live though. start an in game recording, stop the recording, click "add to shared album", tilt to portrait, cancel adding to album. now youre in portraot until you exit sky or tilt your device back to landscape
it’s best not to discuss that here and give them more attention. that’s what they want 
For some reason I don't have permission to write in general Live chat, so I'm going to ask here.
I have a 2nd email account that I want to be able to use for a 2nd Sky account, but I still want to be able to switch back and forth with my original. The game refuses to let me log out though. What should I do?
gen chat has been closed for longer than a week now
you might need to contact support to switch back, but im able to switch between my main and alt very easily when i need to oob (using my phone for the alt and my ipad for the main)
That is what I want, my phone as an alt and tab as a main, but I just got the Galaxy S21 Ultra, so I would still like to have the option of logging into my main for special high end pics. Either way, the game refuses to let me log out. So I'm kinda frustrated. 🤔
Not necessarily beta related topic but you have to log out from your google account first, log into the other one, open game, click on log in then click on switch accounts. (the amount of time and accidental moth accounts i made until i figured this out when i wanted to transfer my ios progress to an android phone) 
@spark lance I don’t even think that’s in beta at all so best to delete ur text 
i love how skykids are enyojing the final quest of this season 
I missed the announcement that there's maintenance today. is beta server going down too? I don't see anything but I wanna double check
I'm not sure. They've done some beta maintenance recently, so I think this might just be for the live servers
guess I'll find out when I get home from work 
Anyone knows when the next season comes? Thx
nope, we don't have any idea yet 
Thanks, i haven’t see any news neither. Afraid of missing out
Just follow TGC on all their social media and have notifications on the #news channel and you'll be fine. 🙂
When Ktjn announces the beta wipes, does it make their job easier if we manually leave the testing program? Iirc they said that they have to manually make ppl leave every time
i would assume that it would make it easier for them. i can't imagine having to kick out 16k players. it must take hours 
Hm, I didn't know she did each and every one manually. I thought it was more like just a manual process, but all in one go.
i think the last wipes took ktjn hours to kick everyone out. they mentioned that it was a fully manual process a while back
Oh, wow. I actually didn't know that. 
We should all collectively leave the testing program at the same time to make her life easier 
sure, our access will be removed anyway
One season, I had to delete them by hand because deleting the tester groups only deleted the groups and didn't remove anyone. It's not a 6 hour mistake I ever hope to repeat 
Normally, it's a one-click event.
Oh, that's good to hear.
unless you, of your own volition, want to stop being a tester, let us handle the test groups.
You're all very sweet, and I appreciate the kind thought though 
Why not try again a all out game wipes. Its good to have the items you earned in beta. But they are for testing. But having an all out wipe gives the feeling of fresh new start
Just keep in mind, Android players, Google takes awhile to register you being removed from beta. Last wave, I still had to manually leave and rejoin to avoid mid testing phase kick out.
But is there really a need for that? The progress wipe that happened before iOS release was for testing purposes. Just wiping cosmetics now without any specific reason would just feel cruel.
Yeah it feels like cruel. But remember its beta. And believe me or not. Its gave us fresh game’s air.
Oh, I remember. It was quite traumatic, tbh. All cosmetics and friendship upgrades gone. It was a mad scramble to refriend people in Live and then upgrade them again.
But i think it wont hapen as beta time runs now in fast pace + additional time frame. Plus it would take additional spirit collection first to enter the realm for the nextvseason. Well. Just a suggestion
Yeah, true. It's different in many ways now. 🙂
watch people with 1k+ seasonals gathered be reset back to moths or smt
just more beta stories in any case
Well, tbh, I wouldn't mind if those seasonal candles are never converted to regulars.
I'm ok with a wipe if it will come but even old seasonal items can broke sometimes. Last time the bonfire? It's not useless to keep some in game, so if anything happens there are players who can report it or help with testing what they ask. Ofc they can give and remove items anytime when it's needed but i think that's just unnecessary effort to do with more than a few ppl. frequently. Ahah im preparing for the candle loss party already
it would make it even better tbh, "back in my day I had 1600 seasonals which just poofed hohoho that's beta for you"
Didn't they basically do that at one point when there was the glitch that allowed people to pre-order the pass thousands of times? They ended up resetting everyone to like 50 candles or something (this was in beta, not live)
yep, currency reset happened with the unlimited preorder pass bug, but this time the candles are totally legitimate
Yeah true. I'm not sure what they will do for these candles then, I think this is the first season in beta testing where they had candles available in all the realms, so people were able to earn more than usual. I wouldn't be surprised if they just took them away because it's beta, but of course there would be some people who get mad about that anyway
the ridiculous rate of seasonals with the extended season really boosted our banks, without forgetting the extras from swing and seesaw - we had a coversion after prophecy but back then we only got 11 per day on a normal length testing season so I had only 300 some to convert anyway
That's an ok number but uhh now I feel bad with ~1300 ? I can't even spend that much 
That's the thing, there isn't really anything we need that many candles for in beta. Maybe I'm old school, but I like that we have to grind for stuff. It makes for better testing.
I think we do get enough fresh faces now with the access wipes each season that they likely won't have a major need to wipe progress for testing purposes. It's always good to be prepared for one but we really don't know if or when it'll happen. Just keep going like normal with the beta expectation that things could change drastically any time 
I just got to 1600 and it's getting a bit absurd yes, I've never had this many of any currency and can't see how I'd ever run out if these do convert
i hope we get to keep them so i don't have to use QRs anymore 
Maybe if they limited the SC conversion to like 500, I think that would be a good middle ground. The others just stay as SC?
That's part of the reason i like to do full candle runs at least after updates Blep. If we go through everywhere once or twice we can see if something doesn't work as it should. Snu, good point

I'd need more eden runs but imagine how many bearhugs my 700 candles could unlock
the excessive eden running is probably not gonna happen though
might be all or nothing kind of deal, would be quite beta specific extra work if we'd have a partial conversion
ooo lvl 2 bear hugs for all the next cycle moths!
The new light system does make it a lot easier to accumulate regular candles though. I haven't done much on beta recently but I get way more candles running solo on beta than I do on live. I only have more candles on live right now because I get ubers who take me on a full run
still excited about the idea of being able to do a realm or two and get closer to the max daily candles with just my favorite places
Wipes can and will happen from time to time but there needs to be a need for it. When we do those things it's a few days of work from the engineering team to make happen, especially when done in a way that preserves the friend list. There are better uses of their time. For the most part, wiping currency accomplishes anything we need for testing.
just finished backreading, i'm glad you don't have to manually remove every tester
hopefully the waves will go smoothly this time around
tbh I'm really happy that you would go through the effort to preserve our friends lists! I have made a lot of friends in game I have no contact with outside the game and I still love seeing those people whenever we happen to both me on.
Awww kai we love seeing ya too

Is beta under maintenance too? I can’t check rn lol
I’m able to get on and see friends too so I assume it is not 
Ktjn said that it's not in another channel, beta is on separate servers and the maintenance is only for the live servers right now
Where do the links to become à bâta tester show up, like what Channel?
#beta-faq has all the info you need 
The links are posted in #beta-signup-info but there are none right now
Thanks
just like beta maintenance has no bearing on live, the reverse is also true.
How do I get the beta? Is it possible or just regular game
Hey there! I recommend reading #beta-faq to learn more about what it is! Beta is a completely separate app where we test upcoming content. Unfortunately, you can't join right now since beta is closed. However, you can join later when invite waves happen 
@slim kayak, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
Yes watch for announcements Aeras 
ahahaha skybot I love you but no
usually it’s me getting that ping
Spare some for us 
when do you guys think the new season is gonna be in beta? i personally think it'll be in march or sometime after days of fortune ends
Please don't spam emojis here 
It will be in forest for sure
it’s best not to talk about details we don’t know yet. TGC hasn’t made any announcements in news or in the beta channels regarding it 
I should probably clarify that it’s cool to say “I hope it will be in forest” but until TGC makes any announcements to us, we don’t know for sure if it will be or not. That info could be a fanmade season for all we know 
does anybody know when is the switch release? or when will the pc beta start?
All we know is the same info live knows: https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/sky-children-of-the-light-switch/ no info on when/if PC would get a release. I think they are focusing on switch release first.
ahh thanks. hope they release the pc beta as soon as possible 
we haven't even announced development on pc let alone discussion of a beta, our current endeavors are focused on switch alongside live support for existing platforms.
I'm not a beta tester but I'm just curious, do we know any info on the next season?
We won't know anything (correction, anything away from official news) until the season hits beta, which won't happen until after the next invite wave. Best way to preview what's new in beta is check #beta-announcements
thank u
I hope next season is in Forest..

just making sure, i shouldn't see 2 different notes from the same person in one area right? like, at the same time.
that would be fun
I’m excited to see what a future vault season might look like too. please don’t put the entrance at the summit
season in eden 
Oh wow
Has anyone noticed the door in the Forest temple??? The new area entrance could go there
Was it at a meditation spot?
thats a bit too far...
ah, no. boat
Uhh nope, it shouldn't but i ocassionally stumble into double ever since we started testing boats ages ago.
alright, i'll make sure to report it then 
ah my friends have told me they’ve seen two of my boats in home space together before. like if I placed one less than 48 hours after placing my first one but also after I’d gotten a heart from my first one then people told me they saw two. I wonder if it’s because of the being unable to manually hide your own boat from the public once it hits enough likes for a heart 
Oh I’ve had that for a while too, (with Kai’s boats in live
) I just thought the owner put the boats down in different servers where their previous boat wasn’t showing up 
I saw 2 notes at the boneyard meditation spot a the last time we had a quest there from a friend 
KAIIIIIIIIIII (I know I saw you 2 hours ago but KAIIIIIII)
HOW ARE YOU
HADN'T BEEN IN BETA TODAY SORRY I'M BUSY :((
I haven’t been in beta yet today either cake
I’m kinda still trying to give myself a bit of a break cuz I went into eden too much in a short time frame. I’ll pop in for sure if anything specific needs testing and it isn’t too intense 
I can relateeee
I'm so dead, but not as in eden dead.
More like brain dead.
I'm not ready to go to eden after going to eden for like, so many times already
speaking of eden, i'm currently in beta trying to climb as high as i can in the first part of eden cause i'm bored. i have realized that i should have collected my wl for this
I think I found a way to fly out of the cocoon in eden, never tried because it would take so long
I didn’t know where to ask, but what is the new candle forging system people were talking about? 
you can read more about it in this blog post! #news message
it’s still in development so things might change. It really is something best experienced rather than described to you
KAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
I couldn't light your star 
look like beta player gonna get kick out soon 
well, we can't know for sure. but live just got the final quest, so things are wrapping up. soon™️
i do hope that all of you return for the next wave. it's been fun hanging out with you all and bug hunting 
ah Cake I haven’t accepted any light gifts in beta in quite some time because I have a hard time lighting everyone back
I generally only accept light gifts when I can’t find someone in my constellation and need to refresh it 
and Aeras I hope everyone I’ve made friends with this season is able to come back next round too 
I hope I get lucky with Google's lag like I did last time. I was able to freely leave and rejoin without needing to wait for an invite wave.
(edit) I left between waves and had the join option.
when is start new sesson in beta ? 
It will be a little while. The access wipe still needs to happen and the invite waves still needs to happen. Also with those going on, they usually give the new beta testers a little bit of time to complete the realms before activating the new season. Best to check out #beta-announcements as with a new season comes a new update.
Or just nvm 😅

you do mean the door just to the right of entering the temple? i think that used to house a spirit during the light awaits days. you'd have to ask an older player to confirm that though
Yep, it was the
spirit, if I remember correctly. It was a beautiful golden room. I wish they'd kept it, even if the spirit left.
I have come to say one thing -w-
I hope that the dress will come to live version soon enough
I cannot wait to cosplay the skater -w-
that is all, have a nice day
if the skater can't stay then ill be the skater
This village ain't big enough for the two of us
hmm has anyone else noticed that the 'double message' bug has made it into live?
Will the many season candles we have now disappear before they become normal candles?
No, they just convert into regular candles straight away once you get the “thank you for taking part in the season” kind of message (when the season ends). That being said, since we have so many there’s a possibility of them reducing the amount of candles we have, so make sure you don’t get too attached to your beta currencies 
I’m pretty sure I recorded a video the last time my seasonal candles converted into the regular ones, if you haven’t seen how it looks like and would like to, feel free to ping me so I can post it in the screenshots/vids channel for you~
it's really fun to watch so many candles rain down
that tinkling sound that goes on endlessly while they count too. even if they don't stay it's funny to watch
Very true ww.
lvl 4 and you’re all set for the full end-of-the-season experience 
oh on this new inbox thing do you think we'll eventually be able to submit bug reports in game to it the way we do on discord?
would be really cool for the beta testers who aren't familiar with how discord works. I am excited for the potential with this because it does sound like TGC wants to make it possible for player to player messages 
I haven’t experienced double message bug in Live yet
will let you know when I do
I was luckily able to get an access to the last beta invite but my cousin deleted the app 🥲 is there a way to login into it. I miss the beta version of sky a lot 
Have you tried re-installing test flight? Or did your cousin choose to leave the test program?
Umm they just deleted the beta version of sky. I have TestFlight installed
Ah but it’s no longer listed..?
I think you might have to wait for next wave in that case..
We’re near the end of the season so it shouldn’t be long!
Ah ok 
It no longer shows up in the TestFlight so yea I need to wait 
Edit: Thank you @sand dawn (sorry for the tag)
if you’re using the same apple id sky beta should be listed on your testflight. it won’t be removed until tgc wipes our access to it
Their cousin must have left the program because they said it wasn’t listed anymore
I can’t see it in TestFlight
Oh no, the non-sticky winged light bug has made it to live as well 😦
I think it’s been there for a long time already.
Hello skykids! hope you have a nice day 
Hey uhh, I got a quick question
To those who bought the invisible cape that cost 999 hearts, can you still wear them today? Or is that only for beta and I'm just making a fool out of myself?
It’s beta only for the moment. There is no possibility to get invisicape on Live right now. Reasons in this post by Ktjn : #beta-discussion message
Those you see capeless on live got capeless through glitch. It is not the 999 heart invisicape
!betalive the beta and live versions of the app are separate apps entirely so anyone who bought the invisible cape can wear it in beta only
Beta and Live versions of Sky are completely separate apps. Progress/purchases in one have no effect on progress/purchases in another.
I see, thank you!
How many days when the season ends in Beta?
The timer says 4 days last I checked
Ah yes, i am waiting for the new season
New season won’t be out before access wipe and beta invites tho

You can already report bugs in game using customer support, otherwise the devs would get very few bug reports and feedback on things
I keep forgetting about that
it's not as intuitive to me as the discord bug report but it's probably easier for people who weren't on discord long before sky like I was
Discord bug reporting is the way it is because if it wasn’t key information would be left out, when you contact customer support they already get your game version and device info
That’s also the reason why the devs prefer you contact them in game vs on the website because it’s quicker to get that info
Could someone please tell me how long it takes until the beta invites are full? I’m scared that I’ll not make it in time
there's currently no invites out so no need to stress yourself out right this moment. You can read #beta-faq to learn more about the program and get yourself a ping role to be notified when the next invite waves come out.
Okay, thank you very much
Do you think there might be a reset? Since everyone has like thousands of candles? Also we can see people who buy things for a very long time again if there was a reset wipe.
it's possible! I only have around 700 because I took a break from beta
I'm just collecting when I can for fun at this point. if we keep them then happy surprise, if not then oh well that's beta for ya 
i stopped actively collecting them once i got everything from the season, yet i still have 400+ seasonal candles 
I want a reset, because we can see the candles and things that people buy/get, so we can find people who didn't really follow the rules. Also because too many people use beta as sky two, it triggers me. Just let us keep the cosmetics
but wait, if we also clear the cosmetics... 
I was complaining before about not having enough candles to try things out quicker which can delay testing/feedback on cosmetics such as tier2 capes and maybe the events cosmetics and stuff.
so the idea of the season candles to convert to regular is actually great for me. plus it's a fair way to collect candles a lil bit quicker just for testing purposes. ||and maybe getting my Easter Egg|| 
yeah, i get the testing cosmetics part, its just that we are also testing a new candle system. having so many candles could deter players from fully testing it. of course, wipes like that would take a few days for the devs to prepare for, so it will only happen if it's absolutely necessary
eh I could probably have the invisible cape by now if I'd made an effort to get it. I've actually been in beta for a year but it was just never something I prioritized. my candles all go to friends. I have so few base game cosmetics in beta 
I don't like sky social media. People may have thousands of followers, but I don't like some people. I'm probably going to disable my recommendations...
I see beta things, that don't even come out yet on beta...
Ah, well
I used to go capeless on beta, but I didn't want to use all my pin spells to warp to places, but then pin spells were patched
same on everything, but my Easter Egg.. since ktjn made it clear that it's not coming live any time soon, so why not.
Now that I think about it, I want a restart, but after I get all friend upgrades with Kai and Uzephi
that never crossed my mind so ty. anyways since beta is for testing not collecting.. how to explain this... no one is forced to use beta, we literally had to go through a lil to get in by choice, hence if the players are not using beta to test they won't bother to bug report/send feedback weather the devs done some things bout it or not. ya know? but i get ur point of (trying at least).
so ima ask, is having too many candles will deter u from testing new light system or anything along with the candles matter? probably not cus u know that ur here to test no matter how many candles u have. u will end up testing like in general u should have no intention of collecting to just enjoy.
but if (in my case) I get more candles a lil faster could help me or even u to get more and maybe quicker feedbacks on stuff if that's what the devs want.
(also Kai, for now on, I'll spoiler tag my party emote emojis)
Just playing normally is also very helpful for the devs. We don’t have to be constantly producing bug reports. And playing normally would definitely include doing candle runs. If we all do get those candles converted and then also manage to stay on in beta for the next cycle, it would give us an unfair advantage over newer testers.
When it comes to new cosmetics, it is perhaps not the main focus for bug reporting, but clipping issues can be good to mention.
Why was that funny? 🤔
Also I want a reset!!! We can find people who might be getting an unusual large amount of candles, or some inaccessible cosmetics!
I always try to not get too attached to my beta account, except all my beta friends, I would cry if I lost them. Although I still get a lil bit attached over the time I invested in it, in the back of my mind I’d be ok to accept it if ever devs decide to wipe things out for testing purposes. I mean it’s beta after all. And a fresh new start is not so bad after all 
one of the reasons why i don't want a reset right now is because i'm trying to compare the emotes menu ui from beta to live. my beta emotes are soooo cluttered. but other than that, i wouldn't mind a wipe. but it won't happen unless something within the game changes drastically. 
Us all talking hypothetically
wipe of progress seems very unlikely for the time being
I'm still
over the fact that they would go to the trouble to let us keep our friends if they did a progress wipe. That's the part I'm attached to most
tru, one of the devs mentioned that playing normally as in live ver is their intentions for us to do.
but u didn't get my point. anyways for the unfair part beta isn't supposed to be fair, it's supposed to be let's say (just another ver of sky that serves only for the sack of testing).
oh and idm the idea of the restart overall. we should not expect it to last anyways, i remember when they did a wip for the candle bug and everyone got +30 only.. i had 3 or 2 at that time so

Beta friends are just too precious since beta is so empty and feels so lonely during off-season 
yep, I don't see how balancing "unfair advantages" would be relevant in beta - think of all the pin spells we got during prophecy, those are super useful yet definitely not available for next cycles
What?
u won't be alone for long I'm coming for u.
didn't there use to be a quest on the bridge down from yeti slope to the village of dreams?
Why don't I see any final quest screenshots in #screenshots-and-videos the calm before the storm...
Next season will be delete files?
No, it's an access wipe, not a progress wipe
I haven’t done the final quest yet, but is the snow in live already? didn’t want to ask in the other chat just in case
It was for me after finishing the final quest in live.
I would give my pin spells to new players since I have the ones I would test as a pin (warp, carry, crab call, prairie temple, isle temple, and cape). The pin spells and pins share the same cooldown, so it's normally a matter of "do I grab my pin from the other room to test what it does here, or just go lazy and use my limited spells?"
Clarification of last message (to not edit ping): if I could give those spells to new players, I would. They are useful for many testing avenues.
I wonder what the next season will be
We'll probably get an official teaser like previous seasons in #news by the end of the current season in live (or a little after it concludes). That's how it historically has been.
I hope they do some thing in Vault. Each level should be much more involved.
vault is so lonely
Imagine if every level took 10 minutes to complete.
Idk, vault is bumping with players now with the new wax for the DL system. I at least see one or two other players when I run vault. Other areas are pretty lonely in beta.
i meant spiritually and environmentally
Is crabwalk also coming in beta because ts was right one last time 
it should since beta ts are usually linked to live, but anything can happen in beta
Season of Dreams will be end soon
oh boiiiii 4/5 more days and i can get get my seasonal candles
What does this mean? Can someone please explain 
Have they announced the release of the new candle system to live?
access wipe means you can't enter beta anymore
progress wipe means you lose everything you had in beta
If we’re allowed to keep them all...
Oml i just realised it’s near the time of beta wave invitation oh no...
Wow the ending of the last performance was outstanding... I can’t believe beta never showed this and I’m happy it didn’t as I was very suprised at its awesomeness 🕊️🤍🕊️
Such a perfect point in game for it to snow 😭
Yup, try to avoid talking about unreleased/hacked content here too 
(reply to the deleted message)
||I'm smelling a taste of currency wipe||
At this point, if a currency wipe happens I won't be surprised 
I heard that the next season is going to have a violin, is this true?
we dont know anything about the next season, its not even in testing yet
Rule of thumb: If TGC didnt officially announce it, don't get your hopes up. We only know as much as what they post on social media.
i realized the invites start to roll out at around 2 weeks left in the season in live so not too long
of course i know there isn’t a set time for them, just me getting my hopes up
Access wipes need to happen first so I don't think it will be as quick as you're hoping
We haven't even gotten an announcement that they're wiping access yet.
probably
i’m just very excited
When Is SoD ending? I'm quite excited for the new season I wonder what Tgc have in store 👀
in beta? this sunday is the last day
May I ask: the tea table and blossom cape is available on Beta yet? If no, why I see some screenshot about it. Thank you!
those arent in beta, if you're seeing people posting about it its either regional differences or hacking
I see, I was see it in Live so I thought there was something in Beta. Seem they move files from Chinese server to Global live 
!betalive beta and live are totally separate apps and beta players couldn't bring beta assets to live. that's definitely a hackers work so it's best not to talk about those items here and bring them the attention.
Beta and Live versions of Sky are completely separate apps. Progress/purchases in one have no effect on progress/purchases in another.
was there a time when the stadium in dreams village wasn't dark?
No, it would immediately turn dark the closer you got
oh i see, thank you!
But there was a time where it was filled with stars (like in the final cutscene) it got removed shortly after
oH man i thought the final quest would activate that
No, unfortunately. The coliseum no longer has collision either
itd make such a pretty oob 
Definitely, it's a bummer that live players couldn't experience it even just for a little bit. Now that's the time where I shamelessly plug the #live-feedback channel
Well oob will always be oob, it’s not intended game feature. So if it got patched out accidentally I doubt devs will deliberately bring it back. Ngl I did love that oob a lot when it was briefly in beta tho
they deliberately brought rainbow bridge back
I think they're ok with leaving harmless OOBs in if they don't break other game mechanics or give players unfair advantage. so it's possible if enough people want it they'll bring it back
Then off to #live-feedback I go 
I would argue its not really an OOB since its still within bounds of the map and doesn't require much big brain tactics to get there. 5 flaps are more than enough but I digress
I think any area they don't expect the players to go to could technically be considered OOB
then again we are lil gremlin cats and will try to get anywhere we possibly can so everywhere should be expected
"lil gremlin cats" is the perfect description
ive seen someone try to oob inside a stone 
...i mean i did too but**-**
I oob'd into a smol rock once and fell asleep in there 
There used to be a quest in this place in yeti slope right?
#beta-screenshots-videos message
That’s the third quest. Used to be a cutscene/animation where bridge came down and door opened tho
ah, why'd they get rid of it?
I don’t know
which one? the cutscene coliseum or the one in dreams village?
The coliseum oob in Village
If the cutscene coliseum collision was disabled I'd reckon there would've been a massive protest by now 
But yes, it's the village's coliseum
Ales I had the double message bug today in Live. Only started today tho 
Double message bug is new? I've had it in Eden since forever it seems (in live). I thought it was just TCP and network error artifacts.
I’ve been grinding my teeth for past few days awaiting the beta test invites
The access wipe hasn't even happened. I'd suggest to not expect invites for at least a week up to a month. Live's current season still has 24 days left.
Like since a long time ago?
I never had it in Live before today
Since I was a wee little moth being led by my shepherd friend my second time through Eden, yes... So... June 2019?
I think i always had double message bug too, but it seemed way more frequent today.
Normally it’s 1-2 in a longer period, today we had it at least once in every 10 message if not more.
No I’m new I WANT IN ON BETA
That doesn't change the fact invites aren't going to start until they do an access wipe. I understand you want in, but grinding your teeth waiting when it won't be for awhile isn't healthy. #beta-faq has a beta invite role so you'll get pinged when the invite waves start happening.
you have the beta updates ping role but not the beta invites ping role NightFire. I suggest you grab an invites ping role as well so you can relax a little and not miss out
just make sure you pay attention to the pings you get!
my connection been bad lately and i thought it was cus of that too but ye, this double chat bug just started happening more frequently in both sky ver for me 
I've been seeing double chat since the start of dreams, but its been way more frequent for me too. Strange
double chat is happening for strangers too
before you sent qr mlk I was seeing double of your “...” messages pop up. really only noticed it was double because we were candle running together so two bubbles would pop above your head at once
i sent a long one at that time, freaked me out when it doubled
Yesterday?
yeah yesterday. not every message was doubled but there were definitely some that did double
I need a testing link
Invited arent open yet, you can read more at #beta-faq
when beta test links do open, you'll be able to tell from the incredible speed this chat will be going despite the 3 minute chat cooldown, and from the "Several people are typing..." showing at the bottom of this chat, tbh
When will beta test end?
Beta testing never ends, but if you mean access wipes, it's usually after the live season ends.
It never ends. We never leave. Sky owns you now. 
But more seriously, please remember that beta is for testing new and upcoming features and events. It’s not early access and you don’t get to keep anything to transfer to Live.
I've heard a rumour that there will be a white cape tier 2.
Currently not available in beta, but some beta player who purchased the cape when it was still in the constellation as a null item, could keep it.
Does that mean, the players who already had an access to beta won’t be able to enter it until the new invitations come. And we need to just tap on it and if at all we are lucky, we’ll be able to get in?
You can still play after access wipe until there is a new update. To be able to download those updates you need to get in with the new invites, and yes it’s basically just clicking on the link they send into beta invites channel at various times.
hey, remember when the capes crashed things and practically locked you out
Okay! Thank you 
@quick harbor Moving here from the questions channel. Did i understand correctly that you are referring to the ts in beta when we started testing Dreams? Those were beta specific ones iirc to test the ts system price adjustments. I’m not sure if the valley completion criteria was meant to be there for those, but normally it applies to all the ts we have here and live at the same time. 
you only got locked out of the game if you equipped the cape in orbit and then collected wing buffs. if you equipped it anywhere else it just crashed you and you were wearing the previous cape when you reloaded because the game didn't have enough time to register you'd changed. if you did it in orbit it obviously registered because you're capeless when you put it on then get a cape when you collect wings
It was a brand new account since it was my first time in beta. It was the tabuki spirit? (Gratitude, the one that does that kind of karate thing).
If the next TS is in the realms before Valley I will try to make a new account to test that
the game actually doesn't allow you to see the TS or Questgiver until you've completed valley so even if the TS is in one of the first three realms you won't see it until you've completed valley
that requirement should have still applied to the TS we tested in beta for the AP lock the devs are considering implementing
That's odd. Maybe if someone else activates the spirit if you can't see it, will you be able to get it?
Though I was doing beta alone, so it was odd seeing the traveling spirit
I can't really say since I've been in beta for an entire year so obviously I had valley completed when we tested those TS. It might have even just been a bug because we were testing a new system. Did you see it in home space as well or just in the realm?
Wonder what idiot would even come to think of that, gee
I mean I would have joined you if I had bothered unlocking any base game stuff enough to actually get a cape so it's not like you're alone there
Haha, we freaked out for awhile until it became more apparent that the cape has to register
ngl I cried cuz I thought we couldn't play together anymore
beta peeps knowing null items be bad and still messing with them anyways
I don't know why I miss the summer/spring home, I don't want the icerink anymore, but at least you could do something at home
The ice will disappear once the season ends
I know, but aaaaaa, will Beta melt the ice early?
Yes, I think. Because the pink grass also disappeared when the day of love testing ended
If only home intro theme came back with the green grass
!whenisnextbetaupdate

Oh sky bot what a moff.
I wonder who would test this even knowing the consequences, just to be thorough
Definitely not me
Dark said the same thing. I was legit in orbit with Dark when she did that and would have been in the same boat as yall if I actually had any of my constellations unlocked enough to get one of the capes at the time
Is there an item that appears to be "obtainable" but is really bans people if they get it?
no cake. What happened was when the ascended capes first got released in beta they weren't implemented fully yet so if you equipped one it crashed your game. and if you equipped one in orbit you got locked out of the game until a patch was released because you had the cape equipped upon relogging every time so auto crash.
it was fun to open my constellation and try to light dark only for my game to softlock
I had TWELVE friends who equipped the cape in orbit. and I kept forgetting and clickign their names in constellation and crashing 
if you can get past the frustrations of crashing all the time, some bugs in beta can be fun
(see floor is lava)
a testament to how beta testers are truly chaotic gremlin cats
oh man floor is lava was fun. I got to watch two of my friends in real time trying to push the questgiver through the portal with a table before they hit the floor and crashed
you know, i'm glad that tgc is doing regular access wipes. not only to get in more active testers, but to also get a variety of testers. this testing cycle made me realize that a lot of the more active testers aren't casual players. we tend to try and test the limits of the game, see if we can go as fast as we can, break everything we can. that might have been why a lot of us didn't experience anything bad with the kill switch, but live players have gotten their eden runs cut short. hopefully when the wipes happen, we get more casual players to round out the chaos a lot of us create 
we did have beta testers that discussed how that might affect moths since they wouldn't quite know what they're doing
I think since it wasn't a very large amount of us that discussed it (and probably even less that went to the feedback channel with it), they figured it was still ok
We didn’t really have that much statues either to do the regular eden where we save everything, and die the normal way. We could test that once / person maybe? Other than that going there was really just waiting for kill switch or death loops or just for fun trying to find every possible eden loophole in that 20+ mins while we waited.
I agree woth Aeras
Just because we’re an awfully chatty lot it doesn’t mean there are other testers out there who play differently. 😉
I did want to go to feedback channel about it at the time, but I thought we were only in early stage of testing the kill switch so I postponed
my problem with feedback is that I always want to make what I write as thorough and as wholesome as I can, and then I never find the time to do it 
There's definitely beta testers who aren't even on social media. I have a few in game friends who do their bug reports through contacting in game support and seeing them in game is mostly a by chance thing. They probably think I quit beta cuz I stopped collecting light and haven't logged in at all in like 2 weeks 
I feel you, but mainly with the expired bug reports
I always postpone writing them at night telling myself that, it can wait until morning. Every time i do this, there is an update in the morning

When that happens I always try to go back and check if the issue is fixed. Then I don’t feel so bad. 
Is that the prophecy one?
You MUST run before season_intro_1_08 plays 
meditate_night_night_02 
some of the craziest bugs end up being the most fun to play with for us regulars. Live did get that one wild bug beta never saw though. healing flower really broke the game
And the rainbow pixel bug for androids. That wasn't in beta
Oh the healing flower bug, I remembered being able to play chair at the time 
that's what I was talking about Aeras. it showed up at the same time as upside down instruments.
that was legit painful to look at
Sky: you want a new instrument? Here’s your chair 🪑
I might still have a video playing my chair like a xylophone before I updated the app and got the awful rainbow pixel bug
I actually got warned not to update it cuz my friends know I play android and that would have been bad for me but the devs needed people who had beta and live on the same device and also had that bug to check some stuff for them so I downloaded the update anyways
Chair thing happened while we had the moth bug too. Sometimes cosmetics didn't load on the other person's end and even tho you changed to piano or drum they saw you hitting your chair like crazy
Playing at this time is like me against the world

My friend had very slow internet two days ago and I just saw her playing chair because of lagging. Then a minute later chair kaboomed into a piano. Magic 🪄
My beta skykid never had an issue with dragon wax but my live skykid never got wax from dragon balls... 
Sameee. My live skykiddo just got tiny bit of wax once or twice. But beta gets plenty each time. Wonder why is that
same here. didnt matter if i used my ipad or android, live kid got no wax. beta got wax every time
Ditto. Wax all the time in beta. I think I maybe got it once in live.
could you still do the chair bug?
Gosh I want to play my chair for an hour...
it was a temporary bug. I don’t think it’s replicatible now 
Anyone else feel a quick way to see what your current chevron level is at would be a good QoL addition? I.E. I do a candle run right at reset, I get 7 candles, so I am 2 notches down in 2 chevrons. Currently, I have to drop a notch to see where I am at in 2nd chevron. My memory isn't the best, so if I do another candle run later on in the day, I forget where I am at. I already left feedback, but wanted to see if anyone else sees benefit in this addition.
I really also think clicking top left is annoying!
are you talking about like which 1/5 of the chevron level you’re at?
I mean the 1/5 of chevron level. Like I know I'm at 2 when I tap the top left.
The request is seeing how far into chevron 2 I am at.
edit: tapping candle second time just goes to candle shop, maybe tapping a second time can show chevron details and 3rd into shop?
I left a feedback about that a while ago. Not necessarily because i forget but sometimes I don’t even see it drop, because of chat open, or im not looking at that corner etc. would be nice to check it whenever i want to.
Ohhhhh
hmm
ah yeah that would be nice
I don’t even go on full candle runs so I doubt I’d ever drop to 2 chevrons on my own. but like Pakka said sometimes you don’t even notice when it drops on the screen so being able to check would be nice
I can also see a good monetization on this QoL. I am a light spender, (Only spend money on AP and IAP cosmetics I would use in live, but it may be a situation for another player who buys candles) but the idea would be, a TS is here that I want and need to see if I need to buy candles for it or can CR. I see I'm at 1 chevron but don't know if I'm at 1/5 or 4/5. If Chevron 1 is almost gone, I wouldn't waste the time to CR that day and spend a little on a candle pack. If Chevron 1 was near full, I could get those candles fairly easy. (Compared to chev 0 the whole way.
)
can’t say much considering how much I buy candle packs just to upgrade friendships. pakka don’t tell on me LOL I probably wouldn’t check my chevron level before yeeting money at candles
Since it's very hard to tell when will you reach a certain amount of candle, players will use the daily obtainable maximum as a stable point to count and plan with i believe, or I would at least. But i doubt my pov is relevant at this point since i overinsure everything when it comes to candles. I alway keep a way bigger stack than i actually need, so these 1 or a tiny bit of candle missing to be able to buy something situations are not really a problem for me. However seing an almost full candle with on but especially zero chevron is torture
Does anyone know when testing for the next season might plausibly start?
asking here because i think this is a better place: are there any more tier 2 capes than what’re out in live? i’m only asking bc i wanna know if i need to keep saving hearts for them or not
i have all of the tier 2 capes available in live
I'm the opposite. I'm usually always below 10 candles. 
there are elijah but we don’t know if or when they will come to live 
Yeah, two got pulled from beta for further changes. We don't know when or if those two will return. I don't know which ones beta currently has that aren't in live, but there are a few. Save up! 
I think beta was up to date with live last I checked. Pink, white and black capes are still missing in beta for now although they appeared briefly. Guess we’ll have to wait and see if they return. 
some players do still own those three capes if they bought them before they were removed form the spirit trees so they are still a game asset
I wonder what the plan is for them though because it’s been a while since we heard anything about them
switch release is probably keeping them busy since it’s been confirmed for spring
Live doesn't have the purple one yet, I think. But yeah otherwise pink, black, and white aren't officially available in either one right now
Maybe they're putting these three off for now too because they are the most expensive ones and don't want people freaking out about the costs? I mean that will likely happen anyway, but it would be kind of overwhelming for some players I think, if they suddenly dropped over 400 hearts' worth of new items in the constellation at one time
they’ll probably release one at a time when they do come. navy blue already had people like
and it’s only 75
To be honest I really shouldn’t be giving advice on colour. I keep mistaking which is which. Thanks for the correction. 
I am personally saving up for black in live.
Then watch it never come back. 
I echo this 
I'm still working on finishing the constellations in live, it's going to be a long time probably before I get any of the ascended capes 
I only finished GW for the hair. Not caring for the others, really. I'd rather save and get what I want with my limited heart income.
I’m just lazily finishing them as I get there I guess I could buy the navy blue right now since I have close to 90 hearts
i”m only missing the two newest ascended capes in live. beta however I have next to nothing done. and only have ascended teal
I was saving up for blank face in beta, then crab walk came by. 
I have crab walk already cuz I started beta testing before enchantment!
So it's true that there's a white cape tier 2????
There was a white, black and pink tier 2. They got pulled, and we haven't heard when/if they will return.
Some players only have them if they purchased it before they were removed from the constellation, but if you didn't get them then you can't get them right now (in beta anyway, they haven't been added to live at all yet)
I wonder what it looks like, the white one.
I bet there are images buried in #beta-screenshots-videos. Just keep in mind they most likely got pulled for visual revisions.
I think some people have posted screenshots of the white one in #beta-screenshots-videos, but keep in mind since it's still under development it could change again when/if it comes back
Thank you guys!
Pink, white, black, purple cape are not on Live yet
I really hope there's an upgraded moth cape 
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Here you go. 
There are even screenshots of tier 2 Black and white capes
with different star pattern
but they got changed
IMO, I hope they got pulled for revision. Imagine white and black having a gold border instead. 
When I pressed the link I just go to beta screenshots
Oh neat, I don't think I had seen that post. Yeah I do hope they maybe adjust the trim on the black and white ones. Pink is really cute though
That's a known issue with links. Best bet would be to force close discord and try the link again.
Wait a minute, I'll dig it up for you...
Ah, I do remember seeing that one before they changed the design. That is kind of an interesting star pattern though, I wonder if they might re-purpose it for a different cape (or capes) in the future, either in a season or event or something
Blue has already tier 2 but not the same looks
The capes in the second link that Leilia sent are the original version of the ascended capes before the design was changed slightly, not the current version that exists now in both beta and live
The first link seems to be how they currently are.
Accended Capes is what you call to that cape?
Tgc officially calls them tier 2 capes, but some beta testers call them ascended capes 
Ascended cape sounds more fancy
but yes both terms refer to the same thing (ascended because you need to purchase a wing buff/ascend the spirit tree again before you can purchase the cape)
someone i'm playing with on the live version has the dress option, is that released yet?
I'm currently saving up for ascended purple in beta because I have nothing else to spend my hearts on. 
@placid sky no, its no longer in beta. It'll come back when its ready
Ascended since... You know... Their the only regular spirit capes locked behind a 2nd tier AC unlock.
(also makes sense why their called tier 2 capes also)
150 hearts? That'll be painful to watch go down once you purchase it 
I don't think so. hehe I love it so it feels worth to buy that cape
Wishing TGC will release it before the mid month of this year.
Before June? It is possible, but also keep in mind they are working on a new season, switch release, the daily light system, and current bugs, so don't be too disappointed if black, white and pink don't come out by then. (And this is just what we know what's being worked on, who knows how much else is on TGC's team's plate.)
Right now I don't really hope for Switch release any time soon, but
CS tickets have their first response after 6 days that's kinda worrying
tgc's having a lot on their shoulders right now
Oh, I also forgot, they are still working remotely, iirc, on top of that laundry list. I know how much of a pain it is to develop for something remotely. Having to pull updates from other colleagues before committing your code change to prevent squashing their changes... It can be a huge burden, especially working remotely. You can't just walk to their desk and go "hey, Jim, you already committed that change to movement.c? Is it safe to send my commit first?"
Not to mention that their team consists of roughly 40 people, which is tiny in comparison to other companies. I applaud them for pushing out so much while working remotely as a small team
Does the seesaw available as a spell at the ark now in beta?
!reportfaq Sorry for the ping like 2 hours later, but the dress wasn't supposed to be released in beta yet so it got pulled iirc, if you see it in live again report them ♥
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
Also, moth cape can't be upgraded since there is no spirit associated with it.
And please also remember that the tier 2 capes aren't supposed to be quick goals, they are meant for long-time players who have been amassing hearts over time after completing all constellations.
This is something i really wanted to express after what has been applied for some time...I don know why TGC trying to target shrine farming family. Just like any other groups, I have a small sky family that help each others to get a heart from shrines. I spend at least 30 mins every day just on the shrines alone, to read every family member's notes and gives them a like, so they can earn a heart to ease themselves from the grinding. Limit the shrine to only provide a heart after 50 likes hurt a lot, to communites that bond together to help each other with real efforts, without hacking, cheering each other with motivational quotes. Increasing the minimum to 50 likes to target farming families, is hurtful to me to see TGC seeing us bonding and helping each others without breaking the game rule as bad and unethical :( This is so disappointing to me from what Sky trying to promote about friendship and making bonds...its hurtful to see us utilising real efforts and making bonds being labelled as merely exploiting.
Eden, those are lovely words and TGC would probably appreciate hearing them, so please head on over to #live-feedback since it's not beta-related. 🙂 (You can leave this here also, but if you want them to read that is a better channel.)
Sure...wonder why this wasnt even in beta to take feedback before it was applied to live.
Not sure. Perhaps it didn't need feedback, since it relies on bigger player groups and isn't really a feature as such. They probably just changed the threshold number for message shrines etc.
message shrines wasn't made to be a heart factory, the heart was just a bonus
if you really want to help them from grinding **gift **them a heart or bring them along with runs
Anyone else having problems relieving crab walk's memories ?
That makes sense.
The most important point is " why 50" in a way it effected the solo and very small groups. The ones who were actually grinding with above thousands likes... Are not effected. In my opinion if they wanted to demotivate these big groups... They would have decreased the number of likes ... Not increase
Indeed. This is exactly what i wanted to point out too.
Its not a heart factory. Its spending time to read every friend's note, likes them and let them have a heart in return. It's supporting each other with dedication without breaking any rule. It doesn't happen with a single tap. We share motivational quotes and fun stories on notes. Plus hving 50 for minimum hurts small groups with close bond, not big massive farming corporates. I have to make this clear.
I still see those big groups working as fine as they were. Lol. But the solos and small groups are ones who are struggling... Andddd in a way that has made them look to big groups and undergo the grind with them to get support.
Its also really demotivating as smaller groups normally are formed by close friends and family. The way they tackle this is so wrong. Its forcing bonded skykids to break while doesnt affect the massive groups with thousand likes.
The points raised in this discussion should go in live feedback !!
Tbh I think forcing people to find 3 friends to hold hands with every other week is also a bit...not in line with the game's basic concept. But yes, this isn't really a beta topic anymore.
Ummm. Whats the disvussion all about
Also forcing some one to gift heart isn't in line.. if hearts are meant to be gift of appreciation.. no one should force some one to aprreaciste to complete a quest.. it should happen naturally when we feel generous. This happens in beta too
All quests are basically run in parallel between Live and beta. But the theme of this channel is to discuss topics exclusive to beta. So yes. most of this convo can happen in the Live channels. 🙂
Common issues are okay to discuss.. if its not in beta it should not be discussed here🙂
As I understand, this channel is meant for discussing features and events being tested in beta. Of course we can discuss everything in the game, but if we want TGC to know our opinions on things that have moved to Live we should use #live-feedback (for example). And if we want to hear fellow players' opinions, the other Live-related channels are maybe more suited, like #general-sky-discussion .
tbh, increasing the like ratio to 50 will just raise the number of players just spam hearting notes and not reading them.
Some people just want to help others get that heart and never read the note. It's alright, but reading the note feels a lot more personal than just liking a friend's note for no reason.
And I've never seen any of my friends reach past 20 likes. Literally the only notes to ever get hearts noe would be those notes with 100+ likes
Honestly, I stopped reading notes actively once meditation quests became regular and the questions never changed. It didn't feel engaging enough to spend several minutes trying to find a friend's message that ultimately would just be full of emojis anyway, because we had already answered the same question 50 times.
(I'll stop commenting on this subject now.)
tying this into beta, the note count required for a heart isnt 10 anymore, right? i still get a heart in live when i hit 10 likes so im not sure if anything changed at all lol
I don't know if we've managed to establish any number. I very rarely get hearts from shrines myself. 
Since you've asked here I'll reply.. for meditation quest it's still 10 in live.. for non meditation shrines it's speculation that its 50. However TGC has not made the number public at this point of time
oo. i remember the discussion in here awhile back where people had hearts at 13, some at 20+, pretty much inconsistent enough that it wasnt concrete. would still be kinda hilarious if the number required for a heart in beta was random every time like people were joking about lol
i do agree on it doing less than little effect on huge heart farming groups (200+? likes on a note with a single emoji reallly?)
When is the new season coming …
It’ll come when it’s ready. First, access wipe and invite waves need to happen (it’ll all be announced in #beta-announcements).
access wipes and invites waves are getting less chaotic though! maybe well be this chill even at invite time one day
The only thing through invite waves which was the closest to chill, is the 30 mins slow mode 
doubt QwQ I feel like with more people joining Sky, the more people would want Beta access. I wish it became less chaotic, but I don't see it happening yet personally
I've been in beta for a year. this last one was definitely less chaotic
at one point beta channel was closed entirely and then it was like an hour slowmode. i think the more people realize that beta invites will come every new season, the less they see it like some exclusive hard to get into club and the less interested they are. it'll certainly be a long time before those would be actually chill but they're getting less chaotic with each wave.
Teaser will come before all these
When be beta test?
read up in #beta-faq to find out more. new invites won't be for a while yet since we're still testing season of dreams. sign up for a beta invites ping role to be notified when new invites come out 
Ahh alright, thanks for clearing that up Kai.
Also, oml. The next season teaser is really taking its time, huh QwQ
theres still 20-ish days left of dreams in live, we most likely wont get the teaser until dreams ends
Ok so, I went a little bit insane and compiled data to predict when the next teaser is coming
Season Of Prophecy
Teaser date: Aug 28, 2020
Current season ending: 24 days left
Trailer release: Sep 12, 2020
Season Release: Oct 5
==============================
Season Of Dreams
Teaser date: Nov 25, 2020
Current season ending: 16 days left
Trailer release: Dec 3, 2020
Season Release: Jan 3, 2021
==============================
Season Of ???
Estimated teaser: 20 days left
TL;DR when there is exactly 20 days left on Dreams, is when the highest chance for the next season teaser will drop.
Also, this chart uses data only from how Dreams and Prophecy was teased cause I think TGC only used the Teaser>Trailer>Release format starting Prophecy
aw neat, having a post to hype up a new season is something to look forward to
they could change it up on us again anyways
releasing the teaser before we started beta testing the season was so tgc could be ahead of people who leak content early 
I'm pretty sure the teaser always came before beta testing. I haven't gathered data from the beta updates channel for this chart for one soul reason:
- #news uses pictures to tease stuff. AKA it's nice and easy to find.
- #beta-announcements almost always uses text.
- it's 12 am here, my eyes are blurry, and I don't wanna read whole paragraphs of Arial 12 rn. I have school to force me to do that already TwT
nope the teaser hasn't always come before we beta tested the season. that really did start with prophecy! sanctuary and earlier we were already full on into testing the season when the teasers came out.
and ngl, I prefer it that way. It really builds hype a lot better.
Look at me for evidence 🥴
yes you did go insane 
if i previously installed beta at android and i change phone to ios, am i able to cross platform or i have to wait for the wave again to get access?
each platform has different invite links, so yes
You have to wait to get access again. But do link it with something, so you can get back to your old account.
i already linked it to google, is it gonna works soon?
ah i mean i linked my account to google
there hasn't been any news on new invite links yet
I was really impressed with this last season just hope next is the same as we need something reaallllly great
guys, when is SoD ending?
In beta? It ends Monday reset if they don't extend it again.
ok! thank u
it never ends 
LOL
Once it ends, get ready for floor is lava. 
Season of lava when? 
Question
does anyone know when invites will be open
us players don't get to know tgc's schedule, so no. they might happen soon though.
We won’t know in advance. We only know when the first invite wave goes out. And that won’t be before access wipe.
They will be open after the access wipe, which hasn't happened yet. Best bet is to get the beta invites role in #beta-faq. We will know when that role gets pinged that invites have started.
It will be hard to miss the start of invite waves
that's the equivalent of chaos most of the time.
Anyways, not invite related but...
I didn't get the daily light animation for days now, is it just me or anyone else is experiencing the same?
I only get it if I'm logged in at reset and collect wax. If I log in after reset, it does the animation while loading so I always don't see it when logging in after reset. (If that makes sense, lol)
haven't seen the pray daily light animation ever I think? seen the cute clock in the corner though 
I used to get it sometimes in the afternoon too
but also got it a few days ago at 9:45 when i logged in (reset is at. 9:00), but i get what you said.
That's odd. Maybe some devices load the animation before they intend it? If I log in after reset, I hear the DL animation before I can even press the play button.
Sadly I can't play beta at 3am so haha
Yeah, reset is at 1AM for me until March 14, then back to midnight.
DST stuff...
What's the "floor is lava" thing?
Before prophecy testing, the season started too early. The beginning cutscene played, but because it didn't exist, the game would crash. But, if you flew just before it started and got through a portal your game wouldn't crash. Hence the floor is lava
prophecy moths learning the fast and hard way that beta is broken. basically the season started early in beta and Aeras did a good job describing what happened with that. Basically games go “what do” when there is no code and the cutscene had no code past the generic questgiver waving you to follow them through the portal so it crashed. You could avoid triggering the cutscene at all if you never touched the floor in homespace hence “floor is lava”
Ah yes, that...though I wasn't a tester for Prophecy, I was an avid lurker (and may or may not go back to lurking after Dreams' cycle ends) in the Beta channels out of morbid curiosity.
That was a glorious mess to hear about.
The same thing happened with the ascended capes. They didn't exist, so when you tried one of them on, the game didn't have anything to show you, so it just gives up and crashes 
Fatal exception: code not found. Brzzzzzzt
Sad thing/surprisingly it's the same static that I hear in my dreams/nightmares
segmentation fault (core dumped)
@stuck musk (we are taking the chat from #questions-and-help to here fyi)
As a reminder, beta is for testing, not as an main account, or free access to the new items and seasons
Yeah I know
That's why it doesn't really matter if there is a reset 
^ beta and live are also two seperate apps, and progress cant be transferred. its just a testing program to rid bugs so its smooth for live
..which can come with crashing in cutscenes or cosmetics crashing us. fun
I hope I can get into the 20,000 people whenever it reopens I've been trying for almost a whole year
still, its just for testing, nothin really special
cant buy candles n whatever
the floor is lava
Imma just gonna ignore the fact that you uh didn't join sky in more than a year
i joined sky in october 20 2019
I meant Mr. Mountain
they joined around November 2020
oh 
there were 16,000 testing slots this time around, so less than that. hopefully you make it in this time!
Hey Aeras, what do we do with people who don't really use beta for testing?
roast with the crabs
well, us players can't really do anything. yes, there are beta testers that will only come in just for sneak peaks. but those players can still give constructive criticism through feedback on if they like the cosmetics/mechanics for a season or not.
Medium rare?
salt and some pepper with extra crispness
Salsa, with a pinch of parsley
lets not talk about cooking our friends please
. every tester contributes something, and even if some become inactive, others will come in through the invite waves. 
it was in reply to the “what do we do with people who dont really use beta for testing” 
I still love when we find a game breaking bug, we all rush to try and replicate to submit bug reports and... Do things with it... 
that 1 week of just eden runs 
insert "this is fine" meme here as we all get our winged light yeeted from us
I do not recommend 12 eden runs in 5 days
I do not recommend doing eden at 5am
i purposely murdered my game with tapping 3 of the ascended capes at once when they first appeared
...bad idea 
Damn I should probably spam candles on two things I can buy on the spirit, so it would save time since I'm going to buy both! BZZZZZ
Um, helo, does this chanel accept members that are only live but wanna know about dates for beta content that is still upcoming in Live? 
But those eden runs were totally fun tho. In certain builds we could table drive into oob
and try a lot of things which wasn't possible with all the reset zones before.
Iris beta channel is free for everyone to lurk or talk about beta content. invites however won't be posted here but in the #beta-signup-info channel
the release date might still get changed, but yes everyone is allowed to lurk and talk here!
Alrighty then!
So, the skirt item, that the new and updated Hide 'n' Seek Pioneer has, does anyone know when it'll come to live?
Just keep in mind, things may get pulled from beta for further review and changes, since... You know, it's still unreleased content. We already had future capes pulled from beta for reasons and the skirt got pulled for redesign.
we also don't get to know release dates. we're just regular players like you 
Awwwwwww ;-;
Still, thank you for all the help!
I hope us Live players will still end up getting the skirt someday ;w;
Wait what capes?
I joined beta in prophecy oh the upgraded capes?
It was never officially stated the skirt was for hide and seek. It got pulled and we don't know when/if it will come back for testing. For all we know, it was the first iteration of hide and seek's skirt and not obtainable. (Meaning it was just a test item for them to see how the game rendered it and never meant to be available to players.)
the ascended capes for black, white, and pink uzephi beat me to it with the reactions lol
Uzephi is nyoom 
And that was after typing a paragraph. 
see like I said: nyoom 
I'm prepping my reaction game for the 1hr slow mode incoming in the next few weeks to a month. 
I made this for last invites waves it’s hard to read tho LOL
is mine. 
ooh that blue is easier to read maybe I can modify mine
What server do you have all these emojis-
we’re not supposed to advertise external servers sorry cake 
Have they increased the difficulty in Eden? It seems like the rocks are coming in more frequent waves.
They probably changed the death switch
all I know is that the death loop is gone
Tell me about it, that was the worst!
Did you lose like 5 stars at once?
Yes a few times, I went in with like 148 and only had like 5 left by the end I usually have a ton more left.. it just seemed excessively more intense with the less time between the rocks flying and it would knock me down and not really let me back up until multiple wings were taken
Sounds like kill switch 
Can you elaborate? I don't know about kill switch.
if you’re in eden past the point of no return for longer than approximately 20 minutes after the first death in your server, the game just kills you really fast at that point. it’ll knock out 5wl a second until you die whether you’re in the rock rain or not
No need for anyone to die actually, kill switch countdown stars when you enter statue field. ( I totally weren’t swinging there, waiting it to happen for more than 20 mins
)
me: afks in safe spot
comes back
How am I losing 5 stars at once-
What if the kill switch timer is not ~20 minutes
But based off the sky kid with most wings?
That timer is kinda inconsistant tbh
Its between 20-30 somewhere. I mostly got 25-30 but i tend to go with more people, rarely alone which probably affects the timer.
I think the timer depends on the count of dead players. Still haven't tested this, but I know it was less than 15mins when 3 of us were dead in less than 5 mins of entering.
Ohh thats an interesting thought 
I see the other side of the coin on griefing if that were true though. A group of 4 players immediately die once they enter PNR due to low or no wing count to make the timer quicker. 
I was definitely not there more than 10 I'm fast in Eden I'm aware of this new thing but wasn't aware of what kill switch is. Is this what it's called them no it's definitely not that which I experienced. This happened from the moment I walked in.
server merge maybe?
I went there with zero and 1 wing to die several times and it didn’t reduced others kill switchless playtime. How it behaves if several of these players die pretty quickly at the same time , no idea. At least i have an excuse to drag others in eden after reset.
When you do, you're more than welcome to hit me up when you go and if I'm free, I'll go.
Will do. 
I’ll come too
And me too
Pakka we both are supposed to be sneeping rn 
cake and I found out we’re in the same time zone. and then promptly yelled at each other for going into eden at 5 am together when we were messing with the kill switch 
Apparently skykids don’t sneep when it’s about going to Eden 
or they sneep very restless dreams 
Go sneep snorp before beta crashes on you in retaliation 
biggest regret, but WORTH
In life, there are no regrets, only harsh lessons.
I learned many harsh lesson on eden week 
My ears were ringing the entire time
I don't think I've found any bugs that haven't been reported in beta
doesn’t hurt to report things that have already been reported though. sometimes they only affect certain devices or sometimes they only occur under certain circumstances so every report helps them get closer to figuring how how and why it happens!
I remember when Sky crashed after you lit a few candles
speaking of candles... are the candles on the ark gone or do they only show up after you do the quests?
they only appear after you finish all the light quests. though the orbs will show up if someone else lights them which makes for hilarious pictures
scrolling through bug reports for fun, 1000 candles...
Has the dress come back to beta yet?
--curious live player
no
Not yet ™️
When does the season of dreams end in beta?
I'm sure their deadline to add the dress to live is sometime around when live ends.
At least the fact that they added the dress to Hide n Seek in live already shows they're making progress so that's really cool
--speculating too much
It would be best to check #beta-announcements. If I was a gambler I'd bet there would be an announcement of it going back to beta for testing.
we still dont know when its coming back to beta or even going live
and the dress-height change on hide&seek was probably to make them look more 'child'-like since they have the chibi mask for purchase
We were never told it was for hide and seek. That's pure speculation. #beta-discussion message
Imagine if it was an igc "spring dress" for a spring event or something. 
Well yes it's indeed speculation because we can never be certain for sure, do thank you for having me clarify that as people do get confused
However, is that not the exact same dress?
I like the thin pants, it's a replacement pants for me
#beta-screenshots-videos message is the image of the skirt we had. It doesn't have the filigree the hide and seek spirit's has on the bottom.
seems like the same dress used on the Skater in the Season of Dreams quest. I've never seen the exact cosmetic models used on the spirits that sell it, only somethin similar to it
having those triangle patterns on clothes seems to be spirit exclusive
if im not wrong its the same with all the pants in the normal constellations
the only clothes that seem to have the triangle patterns are seasonal capes, definitely spirit exclusive for anythin else
I still think it being a spring dress would be better. 
Just checked the models; the dress on the skater and Hide N Seek (referencing live) are exactly the same
While I am still merely speculating and they may merely just be using it as an article of clothing for our newly shortened Hide N Seek, it is not unreasonable to assume speculate the dress will appear on a new tier of Hide N Seek
Also, cosmetics and info are always possibly subject to change unknown by all of us players, so just because the beta dress previously looked one way it does not mean it won't look different when it comes finished to live
I mean we don't have the usual spirit clothing patterns
but it also has the possibility of becoming something that may never come to live, such as the shepherd system, invisible cape, etc etc
the spirit boots 
Indeed, which is why I am merely, as i said, speculating
It could also have been a placeholder. In ktjn's message I linked, she did state it's not fully implemented yet. This could mean extra changes and more flair.
atleast its something to demonstrate possible seasonal dresses
Heehehehe
I had already said it may end up being a placeholder/base-spirit-clothe, indeed
dress with other pants
Shadow role 
Is it true we are getting a dress? I’ve seen some beta clips and I’m unsure if they are comin to live
If so dose anyone know when they are comin?
If you read back a little bit, we did discuss the dress recently. All we know is a dress slipped through one of the beta updates before it was ready. It got pulled as it wasn't ready for testing. It might go through changes before hitting beta again. 
I see thank you : DI’ll look back
Season of Dreams in beta ends in
1 day and 3 hours from now
puts on tin foil hat what if the season extension was to make us use farmed candles for double hearts instead of using our SC converted candles? 
did you guys remember how long it took after the end of season of prophecy in beta before the next invites were sent out?
it was at least a few weeks. but dreams was extended in beta by about 20 days. so that can't really be used to guess when access wipes will happen this time around. (or any time for that matter, since its not a set schedule)
Each cycle is different. It's best practice to not have a pattern, so previous access wipes and invite waves aren't a good thing to guess the next one.
I see! Okay. Thanks guys
TGC wasn't ready for buff moths 
anything could happen
they definitely aren't confirmed for live, but i believe ktjin said, themself, in this same chat, that that was the plan/hope they had for it (?)
if it doesnt work out tho, we should still be so grateful they tried this for us, because they really didnt have to
oh wow
good luck with the candle transfers, betakids!!!
i was wondering if the season of dreams ending cutscene was the girl performance in the coliseum or there will be another ending cutscene? 🤨🤔
Seasons no longer have ending cut scenes that aren't connected with the main quests. So yes, that was it, basically.
The ending cutscene happened after the last quest. It wasn’t the girl performing in the coliseum, it was basically her skating around with the spirits in the Village. I haven’t seen it in beta (most likely finished the last quest before they introduced it); such a nice cutscene 
I have nothing to do on beta rn what are yall doing 
Except eden
Hang out in Prairie, being nosy. 
Late to the conversation but the wide long pants from the hands on hips valley stance I think? actually do have the triangle patterns on them when you wear them 
they do? i don't see them
It's just very discreet
looking into it its apparently not just that pants only
Pretty much sure most regular pants have those patterns, it's just not too obvious
The vault hair does have this pattern too
seems like its due to our clothes being a similar colour while the spirits have another making it stand out
so it took me like 9 months to figure out the tunics all had a diamond pattern around your light core. its definitely very subtle and easy to overlook
why hide it tho 
it probably wasn't their intention to hide it. the light awaits capes had to be removed from the game because they murdered phones. and this was back when it was ios only so no lower end Android were even part of the equation then
its probably a device optimization thing
I think it's a neat detail 
how do i join beta again?? i mean like how do i turn on my notifs to know when a wave rolls out
@pulsar snow, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
You react to the beta role in beta faq, and make sure you have notifications on in the discord settings (the @ role notifications ) and have discord notifications on on your phone as well. Beta invite waves usually come after the live season ends tho!
will this 999 hearts invisible cape actually come to live?
We don’t have any information about that unfortunately, it has been in beta for a long time.
I wanted to say without any visible change but realized soon enough that just wouldn’t work out well 
anyone wanna try to recreate an eden bug I just found 
In a few sure we’ve been planning to go there anyways, but I’m stuck with research articles for a while now.
I'll post the video up soon. still in ascent cuz we kinda got stuck so we both restarted and I deathlooped a few times before I remerged with Dark.
The controller bug I found before cannot be reported because the screen recording file takes too long and the data is also large
.and this old bug still exist in current beta
Maybe uploading it to an external site such as YouTube or streamable could help? Those have bigger upload limits and you can attach the link of the video to your report.
Thanks I will try it(Hope ytb will not ban my account
)
uploaded the video
working on my bug report now but if anyone can recreate that in either live or beta it would be interesting. further info: we were both on androids, mine's a high end android and dark's is a low end android that barely runs sky.
What is the bug? I'm curious about anything to do with controllers.
!skyboth release the white cape tier 2!
enable invert fly option then you will find it(sry my English is poor🤣 )
advice:go to the forest
It would be convenient if there is software that can display controller actions on the screen
does it specifically have to be a physical controller? If so, which one are you using?
It does display hints, though.
Will we be getting 2 tier cape for black and white cape?
We don't know
so far the tier 2 capes are being released based on their pricing from the cheapest to expensive. they started with yellow, red and green followed by teal and dark blue so i think purple followed by pink will come next then black and white. However, that's just my guess though because we won't actually know whether the capes will continue to come in that kind of order.
actually teal got released with yellow and red and green got released with navy blue
I've had teal on live for a while. so not necessarily in price order.
When is Earth day? Will we test an Earth day event?
Earth Day is on 22 April. But we don’t know yet if there will be an event again this year.
I'm pretty sure they will do an event like that this year. They already re-did events from last year.... but again who knows
OH YEEE MY BAD LOL
the limited number of people should be increased
i don't think it can, since testflight has a limit to how many people can join the beta. not entirely sure about google play though. but the devs make each platform have the same number of testers for fairness anyways, so android numbers wouldn't go up either.
@slim kayak, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
No I dont think, ex. İts 500 people increased ver. İs 1K
[I have bad english TvT]
Pengu they really can't increase by 500. I believe they're already at the max that the beta program on Testflight even allows. Testflight is not run by TGC so they can't increase that number
Oh
yeah. but there were 16,000 testing slots this time around. there are a lot of us, but that number is almost nothing compared to the actual player base.
16,000 and we've been told about 98% don't log back in after the first few weeks. 
Im actually curious if it was better this time. I totally felt like we had way more activity even at the end of the season, but it might be just the fact that I have very active friends in general in beta.

I definitely haven't been logging in as much this past couple of weeks
I just hope they find a way for switch to be in beta... I could send them my switch's logs through.... Methods. 
i haven't been as active in beta either. been a bit busier than usual the past week or so. 
.. I’m actually surprised at how many days I’ve skipped.. even though there’s 25 sc a day..
I meant it more like people who didn't dissapear totally. We all have busy periods, that's life, but none of u poofed just weren't there all the time 
I've even managed to be on, though not so much lately and basically solo.
i suggest you spend the candles you'll get after the conversion as the ridiculous amount sme of you will get might make TGC wipe our currency again 😬
Had you ever found a crashing bug, and then can't stop crashing yourself for fun?
We just had a 30 min kill timer with 5 total players and 3/5 dead. 
when will they add new season stuff in beta?
we don't know when new content will be tested. if you mean the new season, then an access wipe and invite waves have to happen first
best time for the new season testing will be the first half of march
and I'm thinking it will be on vault
It might be vault. I'm hoping for forest. 
tgc please give us a green cape 
I want a fluffy moss cape 
we need more blue capes 
Teal season plz

Forest can be blue and green season. 
i wish it was eden
where would the entrance even be for an eden season?
Pls no
Entrance opens from Dark room. You can decide if you enter or ascend 
that's like placing the entrance to a vault season at the summit. but its even more work
Maybe another panel of 5 lanterns to open a "past version" of eden before the corruption from the crystal. 
ooooo lore 
Seasonal spirits are the workers who manufactures the light and built the crystal. Ending cutscene could be the explosion and start of the storm... 
thats probably too much lore than we can handle
Maybe not for this coming season... This coming season could be "what happened to forest?" to assist in prepping us for the big finale. Then after forest could be the construction of Vault, then a peak in GW on what happened there, then eden season. 
Hello! Haven't played in about 4 months. Have they added a function to purchase old ultimate rewards yet?
Ah okay, I see. Kinda sad.
Disappears with a poof
With spring around the corner, a nice addition to forest would fit quite well, imo
what could we add to the forest tho
Yeah, it'd fit nicely. Although a vault season could work too. The 3rd floor has trees. But forest makes for sense for spring
There are quite a few unused doors in forest they could open up to a new Seasonal area.
I wonder if they can top up Dreams' season ending
one thing i can think of is expanding the "sewer" making an underground season
i really like it in there so fuzzy
or just the whole storyline
They could expand upon the underground caverns (pineswood), or at least use that as a base for a new area. But who knows, we dont even know if it'll be in forest yet 
It might be too far if its on the underground forest
I say the outskirts of the walls of the first area
to be fair you always can open up a shortcut like dreams
Well where would you put the shortcut if you were given a chance to?
what about those boats at the start of forest after the first gate 
You know that tunnel after the door from the clearing? You could put it somewhere there, or across from that tunnel by shiver. Edit: I think dragon and I are talking about the same area. 
Far right side on the area before the last gate of the area would make sense?
I hope we will have a black or white cape for the next season
tier 2?
Still kinda want volume adjustment feature
I still wonder why they removed tier 2 black and white
150 hearts is a lot...
Still remember how much is the tier 2 pink cape was?
All tier 2 are 3 times the price of tier 1 capes
I was tired enough to read that as after tier 2, comes tier 3 for the price of tier 1 capes. Time to sleep 
That would be a relief. 
I’m gonna be rich so soon

Does that mean its already in game before? Have you seen it? I was hoping for it to be darker like other 2 tier cape
it was obtainable
It was available before the design change
They're probably having a hard time designing it on the current one, but my 150 hearts will be ready in live.
at the current moment tier 2 black cape is just a darker version of it
I see. Thank you so much for the info!
Wish they would release black and white tier 2 cape here in beta before they release the pink one on live
Same. My heart is ready lol
That's great
Is it just me or lanterns look much nicer in live.
They also get smaller from a far(i didn't notice that in beta)
Looking back at images from 01/25 in #beta-screenshots-videos, they look similar and also get smaller when further away.
Oof then it just me not noticing things
Thanks :3
I've got a question, when three will be new beta links?
Us players don't know when the next invite wave will happen. But read through #beta-faq and give yourself the beta invites role to be notified when they happen!
Its over!
Season of dreams has ended ! and goodluck to the future beta testers
❤️
And
we have
a new mission
||Meditate on the Boat - Vault of Knowledge||
I was disconnected 
Its Finally Over!!
look forward to future
A boat on vault ?? Maybe a vault update i guess
What is mediate in a boat? I tried yhe office boat
took nearly 5 minutes to convert all those seasonals 
1k7 candles, that's a lottt
what?
is that possible 🤨
Anyone found today’s meditation spot? 
shipwreck!
Seasonal candles are still in realms. 
Is purple tier 2 and pink tier 2 released on beta?
When beta update
Yes! Waiting for the white one. ^^
How did starters plays in the beta
好家伙🌚👍
?Speak English
Is there always a double heart event in beta version? Or is it over?
We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @shy sun. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.
I just noticed that if we don’t forge the seasonal candles before conversion, we won’t get it converted to regular candles. I should have got at least 1500+ candles had I forged my seasonal candles. But now I received only 600+ 
Wow you kept almost 1000 SCs unforged Hana? 
How could u resist
What a self-control. My respect for you. Me keeping the red dot for two days and I already want to click on it
for the first time in months i actually collected light from my beta constellation. i went from 801 candles to 278 REALLY fast by sending literally everyone i have high five unlocked with a heart
i hope they enjoy their hearts and don't feel obligated to send back
How could that blinking candle not annoy the ever loving snot out of you? 
Kids can be divided in two groups...
My constellation just broke. I cant light some people or send hearts to them cause it always get reseted, even when i try to send them in person 
Hallow
Same thing happened to me on Live several days ago because I tried to block/unblock and light everyone on constellation. It’s just a visual bug it seems. People can receive lights and heart gifts alright
Do you know when the new season will come?
We won’t know in advance. Beta players don’t have more info than Live players do. So we’d only know when there’s official announcement
The dream season ends today. maybe the new season will come in a week.
I wanted to do frenzy forging but I was too busy that I forgot about conversion day 
Not necessarily
Unlikely, until we get an access wipe and some invite waves.
poor Hana I give a huge warm hug
I wonder if on Live it’s the same tho. Sounds like something worth bug reporting 🤔
Look forward to the new season together
Don't
Why? don't you want to know what beautiful clothes are in the new season?
Because it's too exciting
Haha
I don't know when the official notice will be given. Generally speaking, it will directly notify the opening date of the next season after the end of the season
when will the new season come?
Not necessarily
I don't know. the test suit is the latest notice. after all, the dream season is just over.
do not know
Is the latest news officially released here? I just came. I'm not sure. please tell me, thank you 🙏
I do not know.#news message
Thanks
Do you guys think that kill switch as they say in eden is to serve 150’sh star. Before i went there 75 star and i can get a clean 10-12’sh candles but now i went 116 and almost 30 stars goes to kill
Do you mean the purpose of the kill switch? It was implemented because there were players who kept death looping and couldn't fall into the dark room until there were living players on the field. (Pretty bad when someone goes afk that means a looper waits forever) When everyone died there they could fall too, so kill switch is basically killing everyone after a time for the sake of the deathloopers. Bot ofc it's not a bad thing you don't have to wait an eternity to lose that 150 when you saved everything
what is kill switch?
I just realised seasonal candles are still in realms, even after conversion
But I can't forge seasonal nor normal candles with the wax
So, can I technically call them ghost candles ?-
Maybe just a replica season candle hahahah even the season candle symbol was sanctuary. 
Kill switch is a feature in eden statue field. If you spend more than 20-30 mins there alive you will start losing wings automatically and die eventually.
wow without give your light to the statue?
Yes, you'd just die even if you were standing on a safe place.
It's to prevent Eden deathloop.
Yes, if you enter at pnr you will die even if you don’t do a thing and sit on a safe place
Nice. Thank you for the explanation 
I didn't even realise they were sanctuary candles.... 
Does that mean....
It was all just a dream ?
Not sure whether it’s ok to ask but yes, when are the new beta invites most likely to come out? I mean how much time is left now? Less than a week or something like that?
We don’t know. Sure thing is it won’t come out before the access wipe. And even if the access wipe happens, we still won’t know when the first invite wave comes until it comes.
Patients my young padwans patients it’s normally around what three days but last time I think it was longer due to thanks given dam that was funny everyone was not happy but we just have to wait make sure your pinged
I want to know how to qualify for the test server and where to grab a place. My friend said that there is a beta-invite section, but I did not find it
This is no time for when. This is the time for Soon™️
First download the app test flight then get pinged it’s in fqa department on here jus5 click the cape
Oooooo a min slow mode hmmmmmm
Thanks lol
Better make sure I’m pinged lol
I’m getting excited for the upcoming season.. although I know nothing about it🥸
well to be fair thats why you're excited
What time does it usually open to get it?
We don’t know. Sure thing is it won’t come out before the access wipe. And even if the access wipe happens, we still won’t know when the first invite wave comes until it comes. And please read #beta-faq for more information
Thank you for your answer, now I know, thank you
When will TGC post the link
we dont know
Is there any forecast?
The invitation link of beta will be sent randomly without notice
Lol my ping didn’t work last time 🤣🤣🤣🤣
that's a discord issue not tgc. discord mobile will send the same ping to my ipad and my android at totally different times. the good news is that they do the access wipes before they do the invite waves so you know to start checking in app a bit more often starting after the access wipes (not immediately after). you could also leave desktop version open with your speakers loud enough to hear across the house because desktop pings are consistently instant for me 
My testflight has shown "The developer has removed you from the test plan"🤣I can't download beta anymore, because I deleted beta some time ago!
If I want to download it again, I have to grab this invitation
Across the house lol
I like how you put it Kai
The invitation was sent recently, wasn't it
Please read #beta-faq . Invite waves aren’t happening yet
thank you
The last invite was in december for Dreams testing, we don't know when the invites will be sent out again
You guys on pay day already? 
Pay day?
Season Candle conversation on beta
ah yeah I've already spent more than half the candles I collected
certainly not as many as others had but hey I was able to give everyone I have high five with a heart this morning and it felt nice to just yeet hearts everywhere
Will the candles disappear soon ? 🥺 Like the candles from season of sanctuary ?
Should i spend all my candles or can i use them when ever i want ?
surprisingly I did not try to friend every grey skykid I saw
maybe I'll upgrade some already established friendships though. no such thing as too many bearhugs 
we don't know if the candles would disappear. the difference between now and sanctuary is sanctuary we exploited a bug and these candles now were intentionally placed and we legitimately earned them. my guess would be they won't take that away unless it upsets the economy in a way that impacts testing. all we can do is wait and see 
Buy everything you see when you can
Thanks for your nice answer 🥰❤️ because i will cry if thay took them away😭😭
