beta-discussion

[hexed crown]

:'(

[random gull]

it won't give you the shepherd role on the discord. it's an in game feature to try and help friendly players determine who might need an extra hand in game. move of us know exactly how to fill it. just play like you normally would because the game is encouraging genuine altruism and friendliness

[willow crescent]

Move of us?

[hexed crown]

allright thanks you !

[gilded talon]

none of us Kai just being Kai

[austere merlin]

They improved the wait time for the dreams finale circle

[random gull]

none of us sorry Ican't type today and the one time my autocorrect tried to be helpful it made less sense than my typo probably did

[slate heath]

I'm so scared about next season... I feel like it will be hella buggy cus they extended time for seasons of dreams so they will have less time for next one?

[simple coyote]

It's beta, new season will always have lots of bugs
edit: queue season of prophech intro

[random gull]

well I wouldn't worry about that yet since we're still testing the current season I'd be fine if the devs decided to take a break after all this to catch up a little. but I can't imagine most of the fans of this game being too happy having to wait longer for new content

[left dragon]

The starting of the next season wont start until the end of current season in live. The time extension will not affect the quality of the next season
Dont worry about it:stickerLove:

[brisk condor]

SoD didn’t have many bugs anyways so even if it WAS to be buggier, that’s good for us to test!

[slate heath]

there is 40 days + 3 weeks until next season, in beta 10ish days so yeah I hope everything will be fine about next season when it hits live

[timid bough]

season of dreams was buggier due to the staff going on holidays and emergency modification of spirits to prevent reappearing travelling spirits that gave emotes which backfired and caused the missing spirits and forced camera perspectives

[left dragon]

Renovation of an old area would really be a great idea for both, players and tgc. We will have no new space to extend our cr routes and tgc will have slightly less work to do

[brisk condor]

Ohhhhhh that’s RIGHT I forgot about that! Idk why, I just thought in my head because there weren’t as many beta updates before dreams went live, at least compared to how many beta updates there were for prophecy before that went live

[lyric kite]

They should still have plenty of time to test the next season in beta, they don't usually start testing until the current season in live is almost over anyway, so we still have probably around a month until then

[pale junco]

Went to eden with a friend:
Everything normal except that they went to balck room without me. I was alive
Kill switch didn't happen even after 25mins in pnr
I had 4 stars left when i sat down and waited for kill switch i waited about 15mins but it never happened
So is there a limit of stars to have for the kill switch

[empty inlet]

There isn't a limit of stars afaik

[spark lance]

@vapid briar @mods #live-feedback channel seem to be showing messages to public.. I'm positive it's not intended move. If I'm wrong please ignore my tag

Edit: it's fixed now

[empty inlet]

It's better if you send this in #contact-the-mods

[strong tangle]

Do we get seasonal candles with DoF pack?

[minor falcon]

nope

[strong tangle]

sad

[carmine thorn]

I remember something gave seasonal candles. Forgot what it was, though. It was 35 candles. I think the seesaw from DoL?

[oak berry]

Seesaw and swing iirc

[hollow compass]

it should be in the blog post, no? we're no longer testing these things in beta anyway.

[spark lance]

Hi i know I shouldn’t be asking this here but general is still disabled, does someone know if the switch version of the game is 60fps or 30? Theres a video online (gameplay) but i couldn’t quite tell

[hollow compass]

There's a great channel called #questions-and-help for questions about the Live game. 🙂

[spark lance]

Oh thats more convenient thanks

[remote sky]

Did any of the purchase packs for Days of Love and Fortune have extra candles with them?

[lusty light]

All price details about days of fortune and love are published in the blog post in #news

[spark lance]

I have a question, if u want to put your sky beta account on another device but u don’t have sky beta on the other device, how can u do it? I mean, just think, I have sky beta on my phone and I want to put it on my tablet, how can I do it if I don’t have the beta app on the tablet? I hope someone can help qwq

[minor falcon]

are you on ios? do both devices have the same apple id? if so, download testflight and you'll have access through there

[spark lance]

Okii, ty

[sick pendant]

This makes me wonder.
If you log in with same account on 2 different devices will there be 2 of you.?

Or you cant have the same acc for 2 devices?

[spark lance]

If u don’t have the same Apple ID is there another way u can do it?

Okay, I’ll remember that. Ty for the help eve ❤️

[hollow compass]

There won't be two of your character, no.

[drifting eagle]

you can have the same acc on two devices but you can’t play on both at once

[sick pendant]

Let's say i logged in in device 1
And then am trying to log in on device 2

What will device 2 say?

[spark lance]

I think u would disappear from device 1

[sick pendant]

Log out as if from the account or just will close the game?

[minor falcon]

you'll get a server error notification on both

[sick pendant]

Hmmmm, I'll sure be testing this someday. Maybe a glitch will happen and I'll break the matrix... Who knows

[finite meteor]

"hey guys ignis here today ill be candle running with myself, ignis, and twinning with myself, ignis"

[hollow compass]

<insert that meme with two spidermen>

[carmine thorn]

"hello me, meet the real me" sorry, very old song reference.

[foggy marsh]

hello :0

[frigid bear]

How do you get the dress?

[carmine thorn]

It currently isn't in beta. It slipped through one update and got pulled as it isn't ready for testing.

[frigid bear]

Ah man

[tender oasis]

Players who haven’t changed it back to anything else after it got removed can still wear it tho.

[carmine thorn]

I can see once the season ends in beta, we're all gonna be like oprah and go "you get a heart, you get a heart, all friends get hearts." At least I will be.

[tender oasis]

You have one hour to spend all your candles, what would you do? my beta kid was born into Sanctuary. If i have a lot of candles in beta, that’s not safe.

[carmine thorn]

Yeah. I haven't cared to farm SC that much unless I pass them during my daily light test runs, or that test we did on forging. because I know they'll go poof if too many of us have over 1k candles at season's end

[languid socket]

so it was indeed a hacked item in the video yikes

[ebon sable]

Well now I have seen it all... 13 cape levels. Unfortunately player took off before I could report them or take a photo.

[limpid crown]

So I believe the star field memorial is just a Placeholder for future seasons

[hidden nova]

erm guys i was reading live patch notes and i didnt knew they changed required amount to get a heart in messege candles and boats???? how much you need rn

[limpid crown]

Most people even me believe it need 13 likes now

[slim kayak]

We never tested the new requirement though, so its kinda just guessing atm

[hidden nova]

oh really? phew i thought they pumped it to 20 or something ;^;
oh...

[limpid crown]

Note that it's 'believed' not 'confirmed'.

[tender oasis]

I have 21 on my one and only note rn in beta but no hearts yet. They happened to be delayed sometimes tho, so we will see.

[hidden nova]

yeah :v still better than nothing

[hidden nova]

oh no :c

[glass fiber]

Sup Beta!
Is it true that with the new forging system coming up that the amount of candles will drop to 15 ??? I just heard somebody in beta saying it so I just wanted to confirm here. I know some changes might occur when it comes to live

[spark lance]

tbh i want devs fix the butterfly cape that make it stick closer to our skykid body so that will make more sense

[vapid field]

nope- everything in beta is subject to change, so it’s possible that the max candles per day will be 15, but it’s equally likely it will be just about any other number. don’t take anything you see about the new candle system as fact until it comes to live!

[slim kayak]

some testers have gotten 18 candles in beta with the new system, so as of right now, no. there's a hard cap (we don't know what it is) that in theory, we should hit with the final version of new system and just stop making candles.

[carmine thorn]

That isn't the end goal of this system to drop max candle count. The goal is to remove the "candle grind." The system is still in it's early phases and must not be compared to live as fact that it's current state will hit live.

We are a far way off from it being balanced or going to live. Best to keep in mind any thing you hear about the daily light system until it is announced to be heading to live as "this will most likely change."

Edit: just look at the people who think the placeholder cakes are what will be in live when they are placeholders until the design team adds the correct assets to fit the area.

Vague memories of the cubes in water, earth and air trials and the vast emptiness of fire trial during the "playability phase" before the visible polish happened

[slim kayak]

even if the cakes do go live as they are now (highly unlikely), things can change after they go live. the biggest change i can remember happening is the vault archives visual update that happened mid season

[carmine thorn]

Earth trial had so many skips we found in beta. Sad almost all of them got patched out.

[drifting eagle]

there's no solo skips left for earth in live right?
they patched the wall climb one, now youve gotta have a partner for either bike glitch or spiral

[rain hawk]

A friend told me the dress was removed

Is this true?

Anyone know why?
Is the idea getting scratched?

[oak berry]

iirc it wasnt finished, but itll most likely come back when its done

[rain hawk]

Ohh okay i really hope so

[pure tapir]

It’s in beta known issues channel that it will return

#beta-known-issues message

[rain hawk]

Thank you!

[sturdy anvil]

Is increasing the number of likes to gain a heart being increased or is it in discussion?I heard several ppl talking about this thing.I don't want it to rise up to 20.Also where is this coming from?Has it been announced already for live??

[carmine thorn]

Raising of like for a heart never was in beta. That question would best be asked in other channels. We are as surprised as everyone else. Not everything hits beta before going live. (Days of healing flower for example)

Yes, check patch notes. The amount of likes was increased from 10. The number wasn't disclosed by TGC.

I wonder if it isn't a set amount which is why it wasn't disclosed. There is a simple python script to require the number to be higher than the previous "gift" and after a certain amount of time, it reduces. That would be the best solution for the comment heart farmers. There is also a clause they can code where if one of your messages gets an abnormally high like count, it won't raise the bar that much for the next one... As long as that count isn't consistent.

(I.E. you normally get 10 likes a day, system increases to 13 for a few days then drops it back to 10. For the farmers who always get 1.2k+ likes, the system might up the requirement for that account to 1.5k or something.)

[slim kayak]

i would have thought that it would be scaled depending on how many friends a player has, although that kind of scaling is also possible. tempted to test this out, but i don't like checking message shrines lol

[late mountain]

The current like threshold needed to receive a heart is subject to change at the moment and wont be disclosed due to the nature of the change. To my knowledge though it is consistent across every player.

[carmine thorn]

Yeah, I don't do message shrines in live. Last time I checked, I refreshed 20 times and didn't see one friend message or any below 400 likes. None of mine ever went public either.

[slim kayak]

gonna put this in feedback later, but i do wish that they make it easier to find friend's notes, and harder for the messages with much larger like counts to show to strangers. i understand that the larger notes are expected to be nice messages that everyone should hear, like a 'you look nice today stranger' or a string of hearts or something, but more often then not those messages don't hold much meaning to me. However, i'd like to see what my friends are up to more often. If it's not reset, i rarely see notes that have no likes on them, which makes it so, so hard for the average player to ever receive a shrine heart. idk, just my thoughts on it for now, maybe i'll change my mind later

that's not to say to never show strangers' notes, just the ones with like, 1000 likes on them

[carmine thorn]

Gratitude shrines have been the same also. Last gratitude shrine I was able to like even 15 of my friend's messages took about 50 refreshes and hiding a ton messages (lost count at the 30min mark). This was 18:00 TGC time, but even that late in the day, I should be able to see them quicker.

[late mountain]

I think there must be some sort of code in place to make friends messages show up more often than others. I find the best way to find my friend's messages is to like them and then hide them each time so a new friend's message will come in. Its not a perfect system but checking the candles each round then hiding a friend's message and then checking again seems to work alright.

[carmine thorn]

I feel bad hiding my friends' messages though.

[random gull]

I threw some feedback into live feedback that was probabbly more word vomit than anything else on that earlier today. my thoughts boiled down to: friends notes should take priority and refreshing should be easier. and strangers notes could go back to being viewable by friends only once they hit a certain number of likes too to prevent these notes with thousands of likes being the only thing everyone sees. / I kinda agree with what Aeras said. These strangers notes are people I will likely never run into in the game. While a word of kindness from a stranger seems like an awesome thought, often times it’s just a string of emojis with 6k likes on it. I wanna know my friends thoughts though and the current way of refreshing by hiding a friend’s note once I’ve liked it never gets me to a point I can see all my friends because after so long I’m seeing entirely strangers notes even knowing for a fact that a friend posted a note that I haven’t seen yet.

[slim kayak]

you know what would be really cool? to give a stranger's message their last like for their shrine heart tgc let me give out some more love please

i've tried hiding my friends' messages, and it works ok, but i can never find one of my friend's message, ever it might be because i have a lot of active friends in both live and beta, which makes it harder if i want to see what a specific friend is doing. perhaps i'm not doing it right, or i'm not spending enough time sifting through messages

[late mountain]

Sometimes if I really like them a screenshot can help for the memories.

[carmine thorn]

I do love the beta message shrines though. I barely run into emoji vomit in beta.

[slim kayak]

you know, i didn't learn how to refresh message shrines until about 2 months ago neither by hiding or reading every message

[late mountain]

I'm getting the feeling it might be a bit less about the change of the like threshold and more about wanting to see friend's messages take higher priority so we can interact with them more and like those ones to a higher level?

[random gull]

wait reading all the messages refreshes??? I’ve been hiding notes to refresh for AGES. I might be misremembering but I thought there used to be an actual refresh button if you went up to the stone back when I was a moth and I’ve been hiding messages since that poofed

[slim kayak]

yeah, i don't really mind the higher threshold. i just wanna see what my friends have to say

yes kai, the refresh button appears once you've read all 6 messages. i think that the button used to always be there no matter how many you've read, but i can't remember when that changed

[carmine thorn]

Hmm... Maybe their censor filter for chat can block emojis for shrines? A message with only Emojis=system going "no words here, please try again."

[random gull]

wow so it did exist I’m just dumb and didn’t know it had to be triggered to appear I do worry about the higher threshold for newer players or people who don’t have as many active friends. but that threshold change doesn’t affect me personally because 1: I don’t need hearts anymore and 2: I have several hundred active friends so even if I do need eharts, reaching a higher threshold isn’t hard. So yeah my main concern is seeing my friends notes more easily.

[slim kayak]

hmm maybe, but i wanna leave a string of rainbow hearts during days of rainbows (if that comes back) 🌈

[carmine thorn]

Emojis with text would work. Like "days of 🌈!❤️🧡💛💚💙💜"

[austere merlin]

Then that would defeat the purpose or allowing anyone to put whatever they want

[carmine thorn]

I mean, messages get deleted already for breaking chat rules, so... How does it allow you to say what you want if it's already censored?

[austere merlin]

I mean I guess emojis are harmless

[main kayak]

the schedule for the dragon changed didnt it?
does anybody know when it comes by now?

[slim kayak]

every hour instead of every 30 min

[gilded parrot]

We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @tardy nimbus. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.

[tardy nimbus]

I would like to ask when the test will be issued. I am looking forward to the next friendship season, but I don't have a test suit, so I would like to know when the test suit for ios will be issued. thank you

[late mountain]

Hi there

#beta-faq explains how to become a beta tester and what to expect. As mentioned there will be invite waves which will generally go out as each season in the Live version of Sky is close to ending.
We don't have an exact date but it will be sometime after beta access is wiped. The best way to keep track of it is to have the beta updates and beta invites role which will be notified when beta access will be reset and when invites are released respectively.
As an iOS user make sure to have the app TestFlight installed too as this will be used for downloading the beta Sky version when the time comes.

[formal lintel]

Hello i have question. My friend lost his beta tester from the flashlight coz he reformating his phone. How will he get back the beta tester on his ios?

[carmine thorn]

Beta opt in is tied to your apple ID or Gmail depending on iOS or Android. Just log into the Apple ID in testflight that got the beta opt in or log into the gmail in the play store.

[formal lintel]

Okay thanks

[vivid shore]

Hi guys! I'm a beta tester enrolled on android. I recently switched to ios.... is there a way to get the app on testflight and recover my beta account?

[tender oasis]

Unfortunately you have to wait for the invite waves to get access to the beta app in testflight. After that, if you linked the previous account to google you just have to log into the same one iirc.

[plucky nymph]

Like after 13 likes.... No heart. Tgc is this a joke?

[rain hawk]

Should put that in suggestions cus while that's genius, i highly doubt it

Also, it stops farmers, but it once again makes the situation much worse for everyone else also, because people are usually on at the same time (around reset, midday, etc) and basically you need to post around those times to be lucky enough to hit ten before all of your friends leave and never return to that shrine...

So getting likes relies on a hype ratio consisting of various factors, and diligence of posting when everyone will suddenly like it is one of those factors that had been important prior to this

[warm nova]

Same

[deft belfry]

after reset, is the person with the new stuff gone in office too for anyone else?

[kindred fossil]

The event ended awhile ago.

[deft belfry]

I ment in live since the main general was close. but I found out why so no need to tell me

[kindred fossil]

You can ask in #questions-and-help if you have any other live related questions.

[finite inlet]

hello why did general sky chat is muted?

[tough oracle]

Well, I can confidently say that it doesn't work like this 😦 I normally get 30+ likes on my messages, and today I got a heart after somewhere inbetween 10-13 likes. !!! oh nooooo I wasn't supposed to tag you 😦

[late mountain]

Please kindly read the last few messages by Alexdolly in #general-sky-discussion . We've been asked not to discuss it further in the other channels please due to the sensitive nature of the topic.

[spark lance]

Correct me if I’m wrong but the 4th quest wasn’t the one that the little girl got the ultimates or am I just crazy?

[worn trail]

Feels different to see Harbin in orange 😂. Soo congrats and good luck on your new position 🙂

[hollow compass]

Nope, the fifth.

[late mountain]

Aww thank you! Its still just me, I promise.

[ripe star]

Can someone get me a pic of what the quail mask looks like with the dragon headpiece pls

[worn trail]

Outfit requests are not allowed @ripe star please read the pins of #beta-screenshots-videos

[low kindle]

how often was the fortune dragon showing up at home?
was it random? im on beta but i forgot

[pale junco]

Can't believe i made acquaintance with my candle 👁️👄👁️

[ripe star]

ok ty

[tropic radish]

I made acquaintances with the clouds for some reason
Quest is buggy as ever lol

[tender oasis]

I did too bit with the wind. I got it mid flight

[river sorrel]

Guys how do you get beta?

[tough oracle]

Pray to the gods (and maybe read #beta-faq )

[sick pendant]

I mean tgc could at least mention the amount needed... Jeez

P. S. Did they?

[late mountain]

Sorry but what might you be talking about?

Also the feedback channels are always open if you wish to share.

[sick pendant]

Amount of likes on candle notes needed to get likes

[late mountain]

Ah, right now that number is subject to change so disclosing the number needed would have the potential to be confusing. Much like how its asked to avoid posting exact numbers for charts of beta features it is also asked to please avoid posting exact numbers for how many likes are required with the current system as it will likely be changing around.

[pearl dock]

anyone know what time exactly that dragon appear at home space?

[late mountain]

Its random

[pearl dock]

alright thanks

[gleaming flax]

Does any one know why the cosmetics are not up for purchase(in live)

[ashen tundra]

The event will begin 12 hours after reset not at reset

[gleaming flax]

Thanks

@ashen tundra I really like ur profile pic it is cute

[ashen tundra]

Oh thank you! Drew it myself

[gleaming flax]

@ashen tundra Do u have a drawing insta account

[tacit stone]

Silksong

[hollow compass]

In the future, please ask in #questions-and-help for Live game issues.

[shadow stream]

So uh, is the dress not coming back...?

[bold pine]

has the dress from beta appeared in the constellation?

[left dragon]

It is still in development. It will come back

[shadow stream]

Is it still gonna be for free though 😅 hmm hope so. Guess we'll see

[gilded talon]

No I don’t think it’s gonna be free. That last time it was available in closet and free to everyone was by accident

[timid bough]

its on the hide n seek spirit so i guess it will be bought from it for the price range of the normal constellation pants

[gray quarry]

TGC makes new wax collecting system to help CR not take as long. Yet they add a billion candle cakes in the trials. They’re killing me here

[late mountain]

The plan will be that you don’t have to run all the realms to get the maximum candles achievable in a day. So if you don’t like trials skip them basically, it will just mean you can run somewhere else like sanctuary Or if you are up for the challenge of the trials then there’s a big reward waiting on the other side

[tranquil ether]

In beta do the seasonal candles convert back to normal ones like live does? Or are they saved for the next season?

[simple bobcat]

They convert

[worn trail]

Haha if they carried on to next season, people would have the ultimates in a day!

[gray quarry]

So the new system has a cap of how many candles you can earn in a day despite how much wax you can collect? So basically it prevents people who do full CR from getting all the candles that they could @late mountain

[late mountain]

Kind of yeah. Less preventing them and more just those candles were never an option. As an example if you went start to finish of all the realms you would get candles up to say halfway through wasteland . Those last candles in vault and the rest of wasteland no longer give wax. If you started in vault then it would be part of prairie and isle that gave no wax. Purely just using numbers for demonstrating, I have no idea how much will actually be needed.

[gray quarry]

Ohh okay. But I’m assuming it actually doesn’t change the amount of daily wax then because the amount you can’t get at the end was added to the amount you got in the beginning? Also what about the races? If I wait to do them last

[spark lance]

I'm just wondering why the dragon boi came early in live :') was wondering if someone @ TGC set their alarms wrong or smth lol

[shadow stream]

lol speaking of that what time does the dragon appear still confused about that XD saw the dragon earlier

[spark lance]

i have no idea, every half hour maybe???? idk

[shadow stream]

oh well was fun while it lasted

[hidden nova]

Yoo dragon appeared for me too but i think he was invisible probably* a bug like those early triggered heart gifting packs and tier 2 capes oof

[lean ivy]

Since cozy chat is really slow and nobody seems to know there, how many candles can you get from the dragon guy daily?

Oh, oops, just saw Harbin's message

[tender oasis]

The max amount should be the same despite what route or activity did you chose. As far as i know this will include the races too, if you don’t like to do them you won’t be forced to go there for the max amount of wax. Doing them last won’t give you more candle than the hard cap. (Currently in beta they still give 1 full candle each, but the system is still under developement. )

[late mountain]

Sorry for the delay but yeah Pakka got pretty much all of it. Thank you!

[hidden nova]

How much would be max candles daily? Would it come down below what we can get now? Like from 19 to 17?

[rapid stirrup]

it'll be the same

[lean ivy]

Feels kinda weird that the dragon doesn't actually give you more wax (my understanding is that it just gives you wax you haven't gotten from other places yet). At least, as a full candle runner, I kinda feel cheated? But it might mean I dont have to obsess over Vault. So thats... kind of nice

[late mountain]

I think it gives its own small amount of wax but it’s nothing too much.

[hidden nova]

Wait really? I did full cr imma check if dragon dude comes back if he delivers any :v

[lean ivy]

Its not like, the biggest deal in the world? But I hope you see where I'm coming from. I'm trying not to be a Debby Downer

And thats nice!

[late mountain]

My earlier message is about a beta candle system in the testing, nothing to do with the dragon beta chat is full of spoilers so might want to be careful if you’re trying to avoid them

[lean ivy]

Oh, no, im aware of the new candle running system in beta! I was definitely here trying to figure out how it worked when it first came to beta

[late mountain]

Ah phew!

[lean ivy]

Yep! I only usually avoid season plot spoilers, but it seemed like a lot of people were just focusing on the dragon so I thought it was safe :)

[tender oasis]

Dragon wax was extremely inconsistent for me in beta or i just failed to find a system in it. Sometimes i got wax every visit, sometimes i didn’t got any for days. They said there’s a max you can reach with that, but I doubt any of us sat at home for a day, only waiting for the balls to collect and count the max. 😅 (If someone did, please share your wisdom about the limit of the dragon wax)

[late mountain]

Same here Pakka, I couldn’t make heads or tails of how it worked with dropping wax. Seems a bit like a random festive chance thing but nothing to rely on in my mind.

[gilded talon]

Same Pakka it remains a mystery to me

[tender oasis]

I have an 8 min long video where the dragon appeared 3 times. That was the point I gave up to find the logic behind it.

[rapid stirrup]

tgc has been saying that's it's randomized

[hollow compass]

Might be good to remind folks that beta testers don’t know anything more about release dates or times than what is in the official blog posts/#news. If you have a question about the Live game, please ask in #questions-and-help or #seasons-events-chat

[left dragon]

Events that start at noon are launched manually by tgc, thats why they start during working hours. The events that start at reset are automatically set beforehand. May be the dragon was set for automatic launch, probably tgc nether have a code to set something to appear at noon automatically nor they were able to manually launch the dragon

Correct me if im wrong

[sullen relic]

i prefer to think of it as the dragon having a mind of its own and deciding not to obey the proper schedule

[onyx minnow]

why cant there be an option to buy just the cape in live lol

[shadow stream]

Dragon is secretly a rebel

[vagrant heart]

Something just activated it early when the new patch rolled in. Devs decided that it wasn’t a huge enough deal to have to go in and reset it, especially since it was late for the devs and outside of their work hours.

IAP packs are decided by the devs, you can always put in #live-feedback how you would like a separate pack for cosmetics in the future.

[shadow stream]

Its mama dragon kept nagging him to go on time but dragon insisted that he makes his own time

[onyx minnow]

live feedback also applies to beta?

[vagrant heart]

No, but the event will soon be live so the feedback should go to #live-feedback, the testing is over for these events in beta.

[spark lance]

When was the ice rink updated it looks nice

[pale junco]

The arena/coliseum/stadium?
In beta it came with the days of love iirc
And in live it came with the latest update

[spark lance]

Ahh i see i have not been playing beta lately

[vagrant heart]

The area under the ice rink? That came a few patches though, I think it was during Prophecy. All of the other Valley updates are either from the initial Season of Dreams patch or the most recent patch for Days of Fortune/Love!

[thorny zealot]

Have the amount of candles per day been increased by them adding all the new vault and trial candle clusters? Or are they the same

[spark lance]

Hi guys

[tender oasis]

We used to get 16 candles max when the daily light system testing started in beta. They changed this so we can earn almost the same amount of candles as we can in live now. However adding the trial and vault clusters won’t make you go above this limit, since the system is not linear.

[wooden raptor]

I only got wax two times when it first came out when they were still krebs. And then I never got wax no matter how many times I tried. So I’m not sure what was wrong there

[spark lance]

My big brain didn't manage to understand how it worked

[gilded talon]

Btw are the orbs supposed to give wax each time? Cuz I’ve always thought of it just as a fun thing, so random giving wax makes sense to me

[wooden raptor]

Ktjn mentioned this before about the wax. I think they are supposed to give wax and there’s a cap on how many wax you’ll get from them. But I have no sense of how it works #beta-discussion message

[tender oasis]

You are not alone with that The orbs are entertaining on their own. I think it’s better this way, at least we are not focusing on how to maximise the profit but to have a little fun.

[carmine thorn]

Quick question: did my CR in beta this morning and a bunch of the shrines have "message limit" Messages. Are those to see how many you can have before the game says "you can't place more messages" or did I miss something to test?

[wooden raptor]

Live update patch note mentioned this: increased the number of likes needed to earn a heart from message candles and boats
They didn't disclose the new limit. This wasnt mentioned for beta but some haven't been able to receive heart gifts for notes even though they had over 10 likes in beta. I placed a note to test if I get a heart and for how many likes. I don't know if that's the same as what you were seeing

[tender oasis]

You probably saw our messages (4 of us to be exact). We were trying to figure out the amount of likes needed. Its not 23-22 or 21 cause none of us got hearts.

[carmine thorn]

It might be. Odd you didn't. Today's quest shrine, I got a heart with 12 likes.

[wooden raptor]

The change was made to regular (non-quest) message candles. Meditation quest still has 10 likes limit as far as I experienced

[carmine thorn]

That's still odd your likes were 21-23 when people claim 13 likes got them hearts in live.

[tender oasis]

We won’t really know if it’s out of ordinary or intended until we get the offical number tho. Beth has a history with note bugs , and i got some pretty serious delay too in the past getting the heart. I will definitely wait with making any conclusion until the shrine gets reseted.

[buoyant pebble]

I got some at 1am and 3am pacific time (wasn't paying attention to my time) sooooo I'm assuming it might be every 2 hours also sorry i replied to a 4h ago message now .3.

[drifting eagle]

@wintry yarrow we don’t know when the dress will come back, as it was added into beta on accident (it wasn’t ready for testing) and subsequently removed until it’s ready to be tested

[wintry yarrow]

Alright ty and sorry!

[tender oasis]

Ohh thanks for the info I might take a look at that Btw I don’t mind pings at all, i don’t get half of them anyways .

[deep raptor]

Tfw you go to play beta to avoid the bugs in live

[tender oasis]

Beta bugs waiting for you to log in be like:

[finite meteor]

but beta is even buggier

[finite coral]

How many candles i can get now everyday after adding all those new cakes

[hollow compass]

No idea, since the new chevron system isn't balanced yet. I heard 18 was the latest number?

[finite coral]

They just make us get less candles

[hollow compass]

I don't think that's the intention. The new candle collection system is meant to make it easier to farm and also more flexible in which realm you want to choose for the day. It's not dependant on how many candles there are.

[carmine thorn]

The new daily light system is still under development and is far from complete. What we're experiencing in beta currently can't be translated to live. The chevron system can still be balanced and more candles can be added also. The cakes aren't even going to hit live. They are placeholders until the design team adds correct assets for the area.

[tribal grove]

Sorry, I’m not necessarily sure where to ask this but i mentioned black flashes occurring in beta are they happening in live as well now? I’m only asking this on here cos I’m wondering if it’s my device cos it happened to me in beta but not to others playing the game.

Ah okay thank u for the response sorry!

[gilded talon]

Dragon orbs are buggy on Live. I burnt them, I didn’t get wax (that’s fine), but nor did I get the confetti thingy it just popped in air. I never had this bug in beta tho

[carmine thorn]

Odd, no kaboom fireworks?

[gilded talon]

Nope. Nothing at all.

[carmine thorn]

Hmm, I'll have to check that out later

[gilded talon]

It looks like this if you need reference #screenshots-and-videos message

[lost sequoia]

The double hearts aren't working well

[gilded talon]

Double heart only starts for days of love so it’s not there yet

[lost sequoia]

Oh oki

[spark lance]

Yeah. Both times I've seen the dragon today in Live I've also not gotten any wax.

[carmine thorn]

I wouldn't know. Never got dragon in my home space in live. Then again, the dragon was invisible for me in beta also some times, randomly. Even the fireworks orbs were invisible most times. #beta-bugs-android message

[bitter imp]

When it was in beta...sometimes I would see dragon wax balls, while others would see no wax balls.

#beta-screenshots-videos message

[hidden nova]

I think this is true guys

[carmine thorn]

That shouldn't be true. The dragon's wax is its own entity during testing. It will not magically remove wax from the realms.

[lament mica]

Oh oops wrong channel (message deleted)

[tepid vale]

I don't mean to seem like a noob but what are moths again? (Sorry plz don't get mad)

[oak berry]

Skybot what's a moth

[gilded parrot]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[tepid vale]

Thank goodness I thought I was one for a sec (Praise the lowd)

[finite meteor]

veteran on the outside
on the inside

[zealous badger]

When were the Candle Cakes in Vault and Trials supposed to be released in Live? Anyone know?

[half plaza]

we don't know, there's no guarantee it'll even hit live

[zealous badger]

Weird of them to remove the candles that they were supposed to replace and yet not release them. =_= I know it's a bug, but it's a tad annoying.

[tender oasis]

Those were added as the part of the daily light system testing. When will either of them come to live and in what form, we don’t know yet and it’s still in developement. It’s really just a bug in live with the missing candles which they will fix soon enough probably.

[half plaza]

its just a teeny tiny bit of wax in vault that disappeared, it shouldnt matter much. Additionally, there's a few wax added in the coliseum, so you should take those while the bug is active.

[zealous badger]

Thanks for the replies, I wasn't sure, I thought it might have been something they would add for the events, but they didn't so I was wondering. And I noticed those Kuga thanks. It only matters a little to me because I'm a bit OCD, but it's not enough to like make me hate the game and curse the Devs. I appreciate the game and all the love they pour into it. I'm just a tad frustrated and wanted to know what was up.

[hidden nova]

but why cant i get any now? got only half quarter of a candle from only one trip cant get no more since then, is it a bug?

yep its a bug

wait new cakes werent supposed to be added yet? i thought it was a bug because the removed candle packs in vault and trials and reported it, whoops welp this is embarassing

[empty inlet]

#beta-bugs-ios message
Someone found out how to reproduce this bug

[carmine thorn]

Emma, same thing with Android. No kaboom. I wonder if they changed it for live or if it's a bug.

#screenshots-and-videos message

[thin mica]

hi y’all, wasn’t the hair suppose to come with the tangerine ? cuz i bought it but didn’t receive the hair but only the tangerine

[slim kayak]

orange is separate, hair comes with the pack that also contains the cape and mask.

[gilded talon]

Thx for the heads up Uzephi I bug reported it anyway, seems like a bug to me 🤔 oops sorry for the ping I shouldn’t have edited

[hollow compass]

Please ask questions related to the Live game in #questions-and-help

[thin mica]

ah i couldnt find that channel at first, thank u !!

[worn trail]

I need to bring a video to the attention of TGC. Someone on YouTube rolled back the game version number or something and played the very old sky and showed the old homespace and stuff. It isn't just a video from the past as they are wearing the Halloween cape. Where should I report this? I think it's in beta app

[hollow compass]

I think you can write to ThatHelpBot.

[worn trail]

Okay. That channel shows other hacked content too. In one video they had cosmetics even before it was released in beta and like a million Candles

[crude crystal]

Is teaset the new item? i saw people using in beta

[hollow compass]

No. And you're welcome to report them.

[worn trail]

Have sent a long one to the help bot 😂 let's see

@hollow compass can I DM you? Like since you're a long time player I'll need some confirmation

[hollow compass]

Sure.

[cobalt herald]

Is the blue office cape limited like it says now? Or still available whenever you go into office

[carmine thorn]

I think limited meaning only available while in office. Don't quote me on it though. Don't see why they'd remove it.

[craggy bloom]

!ts

[gilded parrot]

The next Traveling Spirit is here and will be in Home until 11:59 pm Sunday Pacific Time!
You can read how Traveling Spirits work here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits

[tender oasis]

• I tried orbs both beta and in live after i saw your vids Uzephi and Emma where they weren’t exploding, and they did for me in both places.
• Our test notes were on 29-28-27-26 (idk how we got likes in such a nice order ) and none of us got heart until they reseted.

[tacit stone]

Wat is everyone's thought about the increased like for hearts? maybe there was a discussion here but i probably missed it

[rustic olive]

I don't like it.
I don't have much friends in sky. I got one heart from playing sky all the time. I'm playing more than a year

[tacit stone]

it was already difficult to get 10 likes for many out here , i feel bad for the moths.

Also i don think its even fair to deter farming groups. Some of them are family and friends, and they make efforts to give likes to support each other everyday without breaking any rules or hacking. I feel bad that its considered a bad thing by the devs as it takes effort and its a progress of making friends too.

[pearl dock]

Personally I agree.

[nocturne dew]

How many likes is it now? I didn’t see that specified. Quite honestly I don’t like the increase either. A lot of people are shy and don’t have many friends or are new. I play all the time and have tons of friends and still rarely get a heart for a candle. Also worth noting that the candle system takes a LONG time to find friends’ messages. It would be more understandable if they prioritized showing friend candles first and foremost.

[steady pond]

i guess at the moment it kinda just feels like
tgc: build a community and make friends!
community: ok (comes together to make a group to like each others notes for hearts)
tgc: no not like that

[nocturne dew]

It’s still a feat for 10 friends to find and like your candle

[pearl dock]

In our community that note liking gameplay is how to support others. Specially moth one. Besides we only manage to have 15-18 candles in a day. Means only 5-6 people if we gift a heart.

[nocturne dew]

In a full server group we have spent like sometimes up to 30-40 minutes JUST with everyone finding everyone’s candles that are currently in the server with us. Sifting through the random candles takes absolutely ages and sometimes the stone doesn’t refresh and you have to force refresh it by hiding a candle.

[steady pond]

and honestly with heart note communities easily earning over 20 likes for each candle, this is really deterring no one but people who either doesnt have many friends or are new to the game

[nocturne dew]

Exactly. It won’t stop people who are soliciting for those likes outside of the game, or hacking or whatever.

[pearl dock]

Hopefully better perspective outcome

[nocturne dew]

I can understand a particularly amusing candle getting lots and lots of likes. They’ll pick up steam as they go along obviously. But making it harder for people who very rarely get hearts as it is makes the mechanic discouraging. TGC is already finding more ways to spend hearts (which I love, keep em coming!) so this feels counterintuitive and discouraging to some players.

Of course worth saying that our thoughtful feedback should always go in the #beta-feedback channel.

[sick pendant]

It was a totally unexpected move and I believe they didn't think it through others ppls perspectives.

I know Ktjn is trying to discourage heart farming groups but... They really don't care. You can even make the limit 100 hearts, you can they still can get those in no time. Such groups aren't only 10 members only, they are large enough to hit any milestone.

This however hurts the new and nkn social players much more.
Gathering 10 likes was already not easy, and now this? Not to mention tgc didn't even announced the amount needed.

Imagine how many confused players are out there who don't have a discord or reddit. What about them?

To summ up

If tgc thought this will stop the heart farming groups, it won't. They won't even notice.

[tacit stone]

Yea and i don see what's so bad about making more friends in Sky and form farming groups. Isnt having more friends as you progress thus making life easier = friendship makes life better what Sky has been promoting?

[tacit stone]

I dont see this move as a good solution to farming groups, and i dont even see what's so bad about farming groups itself when they dont violate the rules, they dont retreat to hacking, but spending real efforts everyday to give each other a heart in the game.

[sick pendant]

I really really don't like the way TGC started to work.
I understand and agree with old seasonal quests giving heart for 3 candles after a decent amount of seasons has already took place. But also this?

I really really REALLY hope this isn't a marketing strategy to increase sales of candle packs.

As a game company they have all the rights to do it, no questions there. But as for me, who sees sky as a community rather than game this is disappointing

Anyways i wrote feedbacks on this and advise everyone does in #live-feedback. If you'd like, feel free to dm me to discuss this, but let's drop the topic in this channel

[tough oracle]

btw is it just me or has it become more difficult to find your friends' notes

[hollow compass]

Nah. It’s always been notoriously difficult.

[tacit stone]

It has always been difficult, sometimes u just keep getting the same friends until you leave and come back again to read the notes

[tender oasis]

Finding notes from friends you haven't seen or played with for months: easy
Finding friends notes whom u play with every day: keep trying

[timid bough]

maybe the real message notes were the friends we met along the way

[daring parrot]

is there an animation for collecting the gifts of light, or....

[wide reef]

i think that instead of increasing the number of likes needed, tgc should have put a limit to how many likes or hearts you can get from messages, because otherwise its just discouraging for people who hardly get any likes at all while people who get hundreds of them wouldn't even note the difference. i will leave this in #beta-feedback

[daring parrot]

so they did that message update out of the blue? did beta players know or no

[toxic spruce]

Not really related to beta but after reading all the (recent) messages about liking notes and finding friends notes: each rotation have 3 friends notes (unless there’s less than 3 of your friends placed a note in that shrine), don’t bother with refresh button, it doesn’t do much, instead hide a liked friend’s note. That will cycle out that friend note and pop up a new friend note. Once you can’t find any friend notes, you know youre done for the time. The rest are random notes. experience from liking notes for half a year....

As for a feedback, I think tgc can make random liking a requirement for a heart too. Let’s say you need 3 likes from friends for the note to go public then maybe you need 5 likes from friends and 5 likes from randoms to get a heart, this will render shrine group pretty useless. but I’m part of a shrine group I- pls don’t kill me friendssssss

[uneven coral]

I think TGC should stop focusing on things that are not broken (such as communities gathering together and working hard to support eachother by liking notes) and start focusing on fixing the top 10 in game problems and glitches that have been broken.. for...months?.. a year? More? It’s frustrating to be a beta player and watch beta glitches get pushed to live, feedback get ignored, and deal with constant live glitches while silly things get changed.

[tender oasis]

It wasn’t mentioned anywhere for us to know, but It was probably in the builds already. We don’t get to know everything prior to live players. Some of my friends told me they didn’t recieve hearts nowadays for shrines even if it reached the 10 likes, but they thought it was a bug.

[hollow compass]

I think that's a bit unfair och lacks understanding about how game development works. Firstly, our feedback is just that: our feelings and ideas about gameplay features that TGC ultimately gets to decide whether they agree with or not. Secondly, sometimes it's just not as easy as flipping a switch to fix an issue. Sometimes, when you flip that switch ten other things go wrong.
I believe TGC is trying to create the best and most fair experience for as many as possible, while still maintaining the core concept of the game. But it's just never going to make everyone happy. Plus, sometimes games grow organically and change as more players become active in the product,

[sick pendant]

Ts prices rising is the perfect example of game development.

As time passes new areas are being added, and with them - new daily max of collectible wax. So making ts's more expensive on their 2nd visit IS indeed what you wrote here.

However that's not the case with candle notes. Making new friends isn't any easier or cheaper for newbies. Especially for those who don't have discord or reddit.

To somehow balance this new change TGC could at least make candles visible for public from posting, not after getting 3 likes.

Oof there's so much more to this but again. #live-feedback or dms.

[tough oracle]

Why can't we discuss this here? It is called beta-general-discussion for a reason 😉

[plucky nymph]

I totally agree. Like i raised the issue on first day of update that what are you thinking? Point is that i object ... That you put items that need hearts then you say " ohhh hearts are meant to be given to friends and not use as currency and farm' ... Like okkkkk. Then why is this new mask of 15 hearts? Are you giving 15 hearts free to all players? NOOOO.

[sick pendant]

Ironically the change skipped beta and was implemented in live from the start.... Sooo

I don't mind healthy discussions don't get me wrong. It's just not the right channel for it. And with the gen chat being down idk where to discuss this either

I recommend writing constructive feedback in #live-feedback because i know that's the only place the devs will be reading for sure. In other chats we won't really change anything. We all know we all don't like this new change unless someone has 1000+ active friends

[plucky nymph]

Exactly my pain..i had a boat. I earned 16 likes ( literally i dragged some of my goood friends after 13 likes just to check what is the limit here) and it did not give me heart. Like ok boats costs you candles... Who will like to spend on boats if they know its useless. I am sorry i will not. As at the end candles are more important currency

[sick pendant]

Tbh i'd like to see lesser boats ngl. But not because of this issue

[plucky nymph]

How many random likes you get ? Likeee okkk . I hardly get one in my memory

[fleet cave]

Ellu Betaers

[sick pendant]

Don't do the same mistake as TGC, don't underestimate those groups 👀 i am a part of a server which has such groups and let me tell you, your suggestion won't work cuz the groups don't need to be friends to operate.

They use a specific "not frequently used" shrine that usually has very little candles. Plant their messages there and just like every single message till there's literally no messages left

[uneven coral]

People can be disappointed in TGC’s choices of where they focus their energy without it being unfair. They can fix some of these rather basic issues that people beg for but they choose to put their efforts elsewhere. It’s not lack of understanding game development.

[plucky nymph]

I actually agree here. Like ok there are so many other things to do then this. Players who are new and even for those who started playing recently... They have actually made them disappointed.. if a player especially new one know beforehand that this particular stuff is needing perhaps ... Monthssss of struggle.... They will leave it.

[daring parrot]

I also think it makes so sense because this update kinda says to us: friendship group to help you are wrong, at least thats my impression
I agree that it makes so sense to make things harder, especially since we have more things to spend hearts for

I too think they should fix some more significant issues or at least polish some things more
Sky really is a buggy game. So buggy that it's actually unrealistic
IK every game has bugs, but to be so buggy game with that big community, er, idk, seems weird.

[fleet cave]

There are some things so simple that tgc could fix it, but it looks like ... ignore it?

[daring parrot]

what do you mean
like, we never were blind to bugs I think

[tough oracle]

I think some things might seem easy to fix, but aren't really. Like how people are aways complaining about some unskippable scenes, but these are also loading screens so they're impossible to fully skip etc.

[daring parrot]

idc if they arent easy to fix, they need to be fixed, if bug is harmful for some reason. Im talking about bugs that make gameplay harder, not players complaining about 5 seconds long cutcene

[tranquil ether]

I know that TGC sometimes leaves out some new features of patch updates so we can find them ourselves but I think they should just put all the major changes in the patch notes. How can we test bugs if we don’t even know what we’re looking for? And if they tell us what to look for, there will be more people testing in general.

[tough oracle]

Ehm I wasn't saying that things shouldn't be fixed. I was merely stating that somethings are more difficult to fix than they look... Also it was the person before you that said stuff was simple to fix so no need to be this defensive

[daring parrot]

I aint being defensive, sorry for giving out the wrong impression
and I was just saying that the fact that a certain bug is easy or hard to fix shouldnt matter to us as much as it should for TGC. It is their responsibility to keep the game in the best state they can, I know it's f2p so we cant really complain about something, unless we need to pay for it, but some things are indeed left out for long time and make the gameplay less fun and harder
there are important things to work on. Also, with every patch released, there are tons of new bugs, shouldnt patches reduce them? something is clearly wrong here, something is constantly not ok, and it shouldnt be

but overall this conversation is mainly about the big dose of nonsense in message hearts update and that there are just more important things to do
sorry for misunderstanding

[icy falcon]

yall planting notes just to get hearts?? i just do it so i don't have to tab out and open twitter

[sick pendant]

I always say this.

It's the moments like this, when you remember tgc is an indie company

[stray elk]

How do you activate the krill switch? I always lose 1 star at a time in the end... Probably bug

[timid bough]

don't forget they are still working remotely

[tender oasis]

Just wait 25-30 mins usually for me without entering the continuous rain area. That will kill you way earlier i believe.

[spark lance]

What's a krill switch?

[finite meteor]

basically if you’ve been in storm too long the game automatically starts to kill you. your winged lights will start bursting out like fireworks until you die

[left dragon]

Its official(?) term is kill switch. Don't be confused, it does not involve any krills in the process

[wheat blade]

just curious...
has everyone who had a complaint — or who is irritated about a new feature — have you all sent constructive comments to #beta-feedback and/or #live-feedback channels?
please do. it helps to hear each person’s voice, not just assume that someone else has done so
💕

firecracker orbs 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[glossy widget]

Does this work in live version too? Or only in beta?

[mental ridge]

It went live with the latest update if I’m not mistaken

[glossy widget]

Oh so all I have to do is I should stand in the rain until it happens? Cuz I'm interested lol

[wheat blade]

i don’t know: in live, i have only seen nian 1 time, and it didn’t have fireworks, unlit flames, or pooballs of firecrackers

[lapis ore]

As long as you're with spmeone else and they die first, you'll start losing wl in chunks pretty quickly after a certain amount of time, I think ppl were saying it varies depending on how many ppl you're with

[glossy widget]

Oh cool thanks

[tender oasis]

I wouldn’t go into the rain because you will probably lose all your lights there before the kill switch goes active. Waiting in a safe spot is more than enough, it’s just long and not too exciting if you don’t have any statues to save in the first part or friends to talk with.

[pale junco]

Dragon didn't gave me any wax T-T neither in live nor in beta. So is there a fixed time it gives wax

[runic path]

Ohh kill switch in live? Just went eden today but haven't noticed it. Maybe me and my friend just die quicker

[tender oasis]

Kill switch doesn’t meant to affect every single soul who enters eden. Only to prevent those who are there for too long to keep the death loopers on the field forever. We just really went to the extreme in the testing phase, intentionally waiting it to happen.

[slim kayak]

i've lost count of how many times i've been to eden in the past week

[runic path]

How old are you? 1 hour sir.

[plucky nymph]

Yup i have.

[hollow compass]

That's probably not true, but since we shouldn't be talking about that, please delete your photos and maybe also this comment. @daring trellis

[daring trellis]

oks

[hybrid coral]

so when are TGC gonna confirm how many likes for a heart at a shrine. - i.e. any beta updates on shrines

[slim kayak]

we don't know. they might never reveal it

[hollow compass]

Kind reminder that this is the beta channel and beta testers don't have any insight into TGC's schedules.

[hybrid coral]

ok, just the general discussion got flamed out, just checking in here. - edit: asking about beta shrine gameplay update

[hollow compass]

Beta general is dedicated to beta gameplay discussions, not a replacement for general discussion.

[proud remnant]

Bruh i really want play in beta ngl it looks likes godly

[lusty light]

Beta is just a worse version of live

[oblique crater]

Has the invites dropped yet?

[hollow compass]

No, that's probably quite a long way away. Historically, the access wipe hasn't happened until maybe the last week of the season in Live and that's some time in...er...March?

[finite meteor]

it does but beta has bugs popping up every day with simple things along with constellation issues, spirit purchases, literally issues with skykids alone - we've had the intro cutscene for prophecy crash us so,, not really godly

[proud remnant]

Sad,but ngl it looks likes good

[gilded talon]

Floor is lava flashback goes nyoooom

[high python]

Then maybe not make items so insanely expensive? Like how do you expect us to keep patience long enough to solo farm 50-60 hearts??? Thats just insane. If you're going to implement a like=heart feature, you should have expected heart farming groups to form considering you guys anyways don't make hearts accessible.

[hollow compass]

trust us, beta isn't all that special. It takes a lot of patience and perseverence to stay on after all the flashy new stuff has lost its shine.

[slim kayak]

please don't ping the devs if it's not an emergency

[finite meteor]

that message was also a month ago-

[spice spoke]

wanna enter office? change in the closet midair

[carmine thorn]

Man, even tables didn't save us from the floor is lava iirc.

[pale junco]

The gifts in sky were to be gifted. I know what you are saying but also remember that sky is to be played again and again. Also we all should love however we are and always remember that we all created the "expensive cosmetics are better"
The goal was to create a system in which you can show appreciation towards a player by sending them a heart and help them progress :)

[gilded talon]

Floor is lava was fun time tho everyone just fly and dash into any realm they could

[pale junco]

The main question is can skids get hurt by lava we literally walk on flame
It should be more like the floor is wasteland water

[gilded talon]

RUN skykid you must run, or prophecy intro will crash you

[sullen relic]

also consider the irony of floor is lava happening with the season of prophecy

floor is lava: "stay in the air or else"
prophecy: "no cape for you, you're grounded"

[tender oasis]

Don’t forget our seasonal invisible bugs either.

[minor falcon]

floor is lava, what a time I remember vibing in forest as that was the easiest I could get to

[gilded talon]

That was the time when Forest social space got most frequented, ever

[tender oasis]

The only time I went to eden from Vault

[gilded talon]

Helpless honks

[hollow compass]

Invisible seasonal hearts...

[tender oasis]

I was pleasantly surprised today. I was looking for a friend on my constellation so i made a big block - unblock session, and I found a lot of friends from sanctuary who were wearing some of the latest event cosmetics. I didn’t even know they were still playing beta because i never see them on the constellation

[proud remnant]

good luck at dancing with bugs,glitches

[wispy venture]

Is the @gilded parrot not working? I'm trying to do a report in the bugs but the bot is not messaging me to start my report

[buoyant wasp]

About the discussion of message candles change, I think it's a bit wrong, imo that makes to newer players even harder to get a surprise heart (and as always Sky is becoming each day even more harder for moths) and if they start searching about it, ironically kind of forces them to join farming groups TGC is trying to avoid
(I will leave a feedback message too )

[fleet falcon]

so, I'm guessing the message candle likes system is broke as it was not tested on beta considering I'm having reports from friends and subscribers of my YT channel that they are not receiving hearts after 13 likes, not even after 15~20~25 likes....and in my humble opinion this change only makes it difficult for new skykids to receive hearts and push them even far way from completing constellations....I may say as I have a Sky YT Channel in Brazil with almost 16k subscribers, almost NO NEW PLAYER know about the likes system, they simply place a message and never get a heart as they did not know they should have (before the update) at least 10 likes before 48h so their message would expire and disappear....

[gilded talon]

Try restarting discord maybe? Just tested it works fine for me

[hollow compass]

Since we don't really know how many likes you need to have or if perhaps there is a fluctuating total, which some have implied, it's really difficult to say whether it's working or not. The system seems to have been "broken" for a long time anyway, even before this change.
In any case, it's not beta content, so please just leave your thoughts in #live-feedback

[rustic agate]

I was very sad about what has been happening, and I feel even sadder to see that the community that lives reporting bugs is not being heard, several bugs reported and always end up reaching the global, I was disappointed with the change in the amount of likes needed to receive hearts from the altars, it was already difficult for a new player to get 10, imagine now getting more? after the last update I realized that many players are not getting their heart out after getting 15, 20 or more likes, and I felt a lot of lack of information about the new changes implemented, I didn't even see it in the beta, they didn't inform the exact amount of likes, the message altars are still buggy, and there are several other issues that need more attention.

[hollow compass]

@rustic agate please don't post text walls. You can move your thoughts to #live-feedback , since it's not beta-related and the devs aren't actively reading this channel. (Only Ktjn is here sometimes, but it's not really the right place for this type of post anyway.)

[fleet falcon]

well...she was only giving her opinion...I do not consider it a text wall considering the fact that other member posts on this channel have similar sizes

[radiant drum]

The message in question has been edited down since the direction of a more appropriate channel where they could be heard by devs. Now I understand some players have strong feelings about the shrine changes, but please remember that this channel is for beta-testing and discussion about features currently under testing

I know with gen chat closed the usual flow of channels has been disrupted, but since the change is live now these discussions are more appropriate for live channels, like #cozy-sky-discussion

[vapid briar]

The adjustment was tested in beta for a couple weeks. We don't highlight every single change in #beta-announcements to avoid skewing data. The system was not rebalanced after the introduction of message boats. This is a similar economy balance change as the season guide quests from previous seasons.

[sand dawn]

Could it be messages have a similar system as the daylight system but weekly..?
Like.. the first heart might be at 12 likes.. the next at 16, 20, 24 ... just pulling numbers from thin air tho.. xD

[kindred fossil]

It could be randomized so no one would be able to pin-point it.

[carmine thorn]

If TGC wants to disclose that, it will be an official announcement. Since it is live, best to leave questions about the new changes in live channels.

[kindred fossil]

I should rephrase that, I didn't mean it as a question.

[carmine thorn]

I do have to say, testing the feature is a little more consistent in beta due to the smaller player base. I think Pakka and a few others have tested over the past few days.

[tender oasis]

Tried and failed so far

[carmine thorn]

I checked mine in beta also. 22 likes, still no heart from regular shrines or message boats on my beta account. Only the daily quest shrines. kinda gave up on live shrines. Highest I got was 9 likes on any shrine I left a message on.

[vapid briar]

We try to be transparent about things, but sometimes that opens things up for "abuse" which can either be a full blown exploit or merely players using a feature or system in ways that we did not anticipate. Based on the use of the feature since the introduction of the message boats, we've done the following: adjusted the number of message boats that appear in a level, and the activity needed to receive a heart from a message. There is not a singular reason for these changes. Sky is a live game and with that comes periodic reassessment of all systems and features from time to time. Similar to how we don't like the amount of grinding people are doing for candles, we are changing how candles are obtained and the rate of collection.

The short of a situation and change like this is that we look at the game and all its systems holistically—how it impacts the entire player base and all interconnecting systems—while players tend to look at a specific change in isolation as it affects them personally or people close to them, which is completely normal. Sometimes that makes us look like the bad guy ruining fun, but it's for the health of the game and community as a whole in the long term.

We want to drive meaningful connections between individuals, and the heart currency/economy is driven by that. Systems or features that discourage or remove that meaningful connection-driving element are subject to reassessment and change.

[river cobalt]

I usually am against being too critical with the TGC staff- but if you guys are against candle grinding and heart farming, then you might aswell just remove the concept of cosmetics completely.
I am in a heart farming group myself and I can say, I made a lot of friends there and I believe it’s good when people work together and help each other to achieve something, or not?
People spend a lot of time to like each other’s notes and make sure no one is left out in those groups.
Why are the items so expensive if TGC is against this?
I love this game but in my opinion this is more than unnecessary. Shrine heart groups aren’t some sort of secret organisations that threaten each other or something.

[pine remnant]

This all the way !
If TGC wanted to discourage harmful candle running habits or heart trades and the like, rather than making the action more frustrating and difficult, they should address the systematic reason for the action being performed. in this case: prices
if people are exhausted from crs and heart trades bc of high price TSes and events, then TGC should lower prices because then there would be no REASON to do these acts that they want to discourage
and dont ask me to say this in feedback bc i do plan to in a more formal manner

[carmine thorn]

Yes, there will be mixed feelings on both sides of the coin. In the end, items that cost hearts are theoretically supposed to be at least 3 times more valuable than candles.

As someone who literally has 1 candle and 9 hearts to their name in live and no complete constellation besides isle, (played since enchantment) I feel the worth of the items and hold each one I buy as a treasure.

This game wasn't supposed to be completed in a few months.

Heart farming gives you a free heart every 48 hours (in currency comparison). I only get them from friends who can spare the 3 candles and feel giving me a heart is worth it.

Heart farming and trades break the meaning of a heart. You gift it/like without the expectation of someone doing the same back.

When I gift hearts to friends, I never expect one in return, and that's how it's supposed to be. Now let's go back to beta talk. :SkyTada:

[spice spoke]

tgc is already working towards lessening the burden on players with candle grinding and prices, as seen by the new candle system that is still in the process of being implemented, but as with any change, time and patience is needed. this change to the message shrines was also never said to be caused by shrine groups specifically and as ktjn just said is something that has been considered regarding the long term effect on the game and its community

on that note, though already highly discussed, any new thoughts on candle system?

[carmine thorn]

I love it. Makes those of us who don't want to grind all the realms a good amount of candles. In beta, I only do two realms and have a steady income of candles compared to how difficult it is in live. Did a side by side on "grind 11 candles a day." And had to run less with the new system... Dramatically less.

[drifting eagle]

i love the new system, it hardly affects people who want to full cr but it greatly benefits people who don/cant do that

[slim kayak]

I like it, although I dont think it can go live without the overhaul of the current ts system as well, at least the way it is now.

[spice spoke]

oooh that’s true I never considered how expensive future ts could get

[prime lintel]

You can leave feedback about the issue in #live-feedback as it's now integrated into the live game

[river cobalt]

I already did but I want to know what others think about it

[tender oasis]

I'm just waiting for that reachable hard cap on the candles at this point. if it's not with friends im pretty demotivated to go after candles, and I do everything instead of that at this point.

[gilded talon]

That would be more suited for #cozy-sky-discussion

[carmine thorn]

Then talking about it in live channels would be a better place to get opinions. like #cozy-sky-discussion

[river cobalt]

it would be suited for #general-sky-discussion , that’s about the only channel it would be suited for, but of course they make such a controversial change while it’s closed, coincidence? 💀

[slim kayak]

The closure of gen chat has nothing to do with the change. I know that beta chat occasionally has long discussions like this, but its mostly about things that we are testing. Cozy chat was supposed to be the place for the live version of those discussions (I say was because I dont really see these types of discussions happening in there)

[gilded talon]

Kind reminder that rule number one is to stay kind to others and leave constructive thoughts things could not go in a way that pleases everyone but we can still stay kind to each other and towards TGC too. They are constantly listening to our voices as players and that’s why feedback channels exist in the first place

[carmine thorn]

Back on beta topics though, who now runs vault more with the added wax? I've tried it, but chibi clipping for two of the candle cakes (past 4 player doors) still make it not worth it to me. Fastest I could full CR vault solo was about 19mins and that was using not intended methods, like skipping floor 3 and 5 altogether.

[gilded talon]

I run vault in beta, like way more than before. Always in desperate need of candles and always broke on beta

[sullen relic]

Vault's one of my go-to realms when i just want to casually pick up some good wax chunks for the first couple of chevrons, though i'm definitely chibi clipping for it

[tropic radish]

I'm not really a fan of vault. Even using unintended methods. I did it a few times but then never again, gonna expect the same to happen in when it reaches live

[spice spoke]

I did it solo for a couple of days consecutively and it felt like I was losing a part of my soul but I’m much more willing to run it now!

[slim kayak]

I still don't run vault, for the same reason I dont run all of valley anymore. The mechanics of these areas (valley with races and vault with the elevator) are tedious. I still like them and enjoy experiencing them from time to time, but I cant seem to bring myself to run them everyday. Maybe one day with a vault season I'll go there more often

[carmine thorn]

I only do it if it has the daily cakes in it, so once or (seldom) twice a week.

[slim kayak]

please dont make the season entrance at the summit please

[verbal jacinth]

what if the entrance for vault season is an elevator going underground

[tender oasis]

I still dont do vault eithee if its not quest or cake day there. My 2 go to is valley and prairie or valley and trials.

[slim kayak]

Underground??? Yes I love that idea

[carmine thorn]

I do forest and GW.

[gilded talon]

6 floor up the ground and 6 floor underground

[carmine thorn]

I can see some technical issues doing a lower elevator from ground floor though with the really high reset floor.

[verbal jacinth]

stairs going underground then /j

[spice spoke]

a slide perhaps?

[tender oasis]

Plus vault is already heavy on some devices including my phone. Lag is already awful for me there.

[carmine thorn]

Maybe another door across from pray's 4 player door that zones you to the new seasonal area that could be under ground. (Activated by touching one of the books, like those fictional mansions with hidden passageways)

[spice spoke]

✨a whole new world✨

[lapis ore]

Ooo I'd love a "hidden passageway" entrance with like a glowy lever to pull or something it would be a fun way to hide the entrance and be super cool no ideas to add lol, vault needs some love but head empty

[sand dawn]

Vault is quick easy candles if walls, floors and ceilings are no obstacles
Otherwise...
Eh.. I’d rather go ...anywhere else

[slim kayak]

oooooo secret entrance? i can easily see a fantasy/fairy-tale themed season in vault underground, or even a season that takes place in a library of some sorts

[spice spoke]

NARNIA?

[lapis ore]

Just a lore dump where you sit in a spirit's lap and watch them tell their tale i would never leave

[lyric kite]

Vault finally gets a closet space in the first area that hides the entrance

[stiff cypress]

Candle farming is definitely driving away meaningful connections. Most people spend their time on Sky spending hours farming candles rather than doing other fun things with their friends. I had a friend that used to play music all the time. He now just farms candles.

I will continue to disagree with your sentiment with shrine groups. The restrictions with obtaining hearts from shrines may have inadvertently caused groups to form to farm hearts from these. Your sentiment towards them seems to be negative. But consider that these are groups people wanting to help each other out. These communities are sharing, and enhancing, the goal in Sky to create meaningful connections. Many people have made new friends because of these groups.

Before the update groups typically allowed their members to receive 3-4 extra hearts a week from the normal shrines. It becomes a collaborative effort, making meaningful connections, to just receive such a small amount of hearts a week.

[slim kayak]

~~you enter the closet only to be kicked out, your cosmetics randomized ~~

[gilded talon]

It’s not beta related since it’s gone Live already. So Live channels as #live-feedback or #cozy-sky-discussion would be better suited for this And please kindly refrain from pinging devs if it’s not an emergency. That message was from a month ago too. my bad I can’t read correctly but still hours ago

[stiff cypress]

3 hours ago.

[lapis ore]

that one says from 3:14 pm today but yes don't cold ping, especially devs

[oak berry]

but then everyone would avoid the closet hiding the seasonal area

[radiant drum]

And even if Ktjn or another dev is here, she can’t really pass along your feedback to the rest of the team unless you share it in #live-feedback / #beta-feedback

[gilded talon]

What if the vault closet gave you a random look each time you enter

[lapis ore]

Imagine going in with a fake moth and then they get randomized to a bunch of ults

[slim kayak]

now that i think about it more, i'd love a randomizer, although i'm not sure how it would work. having a 'malfunctioning' closet in vault is a fun idea

[oak berry]

or maybe one of the closet sections is the door to the seasonal area

[verbal jacinth]

having a randomizer seems fun,, i think it would be cool for those who loves to try out new outfits combinations

[gilded talon]

Cuz sometimes I just don’t know how to dress my skid. Having a magical Vault closet choose for me would be yaaaaaay

[lament mica]

Well, not everyone is able to watch this channel all day... I for one would like to give my opinion on topics that were discussed while I was at work. Do you have a suggestion on how I could do that?

[gilded talon]

I’m not saying that you can’t express your opinion regarding a topic discussed hours ago. Just kindly think of removing the ping when replying edit: and keep it beta related in this channel too. thx Mirian

[radiant drum]

It's good to remember that discussion comes and goes, that's the reality of a huge server like this one. It might not always be possible to be active during them or a good idea to revive them at a later point- for example, the shrine one concerns the live version and not beta. You can give your opinions to TGC in the feedback channels whenever, and that's what matters the most so they are aware of how you feel and can work on it. If you wanna discuss it with other members, you can bring it up in other channels like #cozy-sky-discussion and see if others want to discuss it there

Because this channel is quieter, it can benefit from backreading and having on-going discussions that span several days. But it's important for us to keep it related to testing for the beta version

[lament mica]

That makes sense, thank you 😊

[amber dove]

Hey, is anyone having some delay with the music sheets or it's Just me? ._.) ||oof 1 min cooldown||

[carmine thorn]

Music sheets in both beta and live work for me. Even had some friends and a random join in and the musical note showing we're hitting the same note works fine. No delay besides the inherent 20-50ms latency due to network.

[gilded parrot]

@carmine thorn, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.

[gilded talon]

Skybot lol 😂 I guess it just picked up key words “join” and “beta”

[carmine thorn]

The trigger words were in completely different sentences.

[amber dove]

On beta, if u activate them several times (doesn't even need to spam, Just 3 or 4 times completely), the audio gets delayed but the sheet still runs, isn't a internet problem, more like a audio problem ._.)

That never happened with me on Live version tho

[carmine thorn]

No issue like that here. But then again, some bugs show up for some and not all. I'd suggest recording it and submitting a bug report. #beta-bugs-ios or #beta-bugs-android

[slim kayak]

sorry for the ping, but I've experienced that too! kept forgetting to bug report it
i was practicing the yeti sheet over and over in beta, and if i played the sheet consecutively, the very beginning of the music wouldn't play, but the notes would still appear. it got worse the more times i repeated the sheet

[amber dove]

Just like that ||also don't worry about the ping owo||

[muted iron]

I have a question-

If I join beta, will all my candles,cosmetics and progress get wiped? (I saw in #beta-faq and Im confused) can someone help ;-;

[slim kayak]

!betalive beta is a completely separate app, its not connected to your live progress whatsoever

[gilded parrot]

Beta and Live versions of Sky are completely separate apps. Progress/purchases in one have no effect on progress/purchases in another.

[muted iron]

So there's not an option,if we join beta ,we cannot plug into that account? ;-;

[slim kayak]

what #beta-faq talks about is the fact that we test things that may get deleted in beta only. we've had hundreds of candles deleted because of a purchase bug before, and a long time ago, everyone's progress was reset to test the new economy. so if you'd like to join the beta, keep this in mind

you can link beta to the same email/game center account that you use in live. but you'll have to start over in beta

[jade dirge]

Hello, are the candle cakes in the end of trials have been implemented in live?

[timid bough]

nope

[vapid briar]

It's okay to post walls of text here when it's relevant to the discussion at hand, but remind/ask folks to copy/paste that over to #beta-feedback #live-feedback as well. Remember to try and approach others with kindness instead of scolding them for posting in the "wrong" place

[clear cargo]

Wait the name changed?

[vapid briar]

While I'm here, yes the channel was renamed. we're getting a lot of general chat in this channel when conversation should largely be focused on testing.

[clear cargo]

:0

[tropic radish]

Ah, no wonder
I thought I was tripping and went through some sort of Mandela effect lol

[spark lance]

i just reread the new name 10 times in a row and somehow did not know what had changed for 5 minutes thereafter. then it finally hit me that it says "testing" now. clearly, my braincells have fled

[runic path]

I just saw a guy lost all WL in one second and in HOME space. And that guy refuse to lit me up... It's a bug or something?

[timid bough]

probably hacker

[mighty estuary]

Yeah i saw it once, guess it's once in a lifetime because i never see that guy anymore

[carmine thorn]

Yeah, sounds like they are breaking TOS.

[runic path]

Yeah I can't denied my satisfaction of watching tons of WL burst out.

[carmine thorn]

Play with the kill switch then.

[full hearth]

Hello

[kindred bluff]

(omg they shut down general i just realized- thats crazy dont start talking about it here im just glad beta chat not crazy as usual )

ahk i wish i knew the exact time of the dragon appearances in my location though, i know its every 3 hours but its hard to make an assumption by never seeing it before

[fluid quail]

the rename for this channel is very suitable

[kindred bluff]

agreed! i havent been here a long while so i didnt point it out

[quaint lichen]

Does anyone know how the inbox works? I'm not in beta so I'm curious

[hollow compass]

At the moment it's a one-way communication thing from TGC to the player. That's really all we know. 🙂

[hexed crown]

is there any info of when the daily light in beta come to live? it is very cool! i can only do a map and have good amount of candles.

[sick pendant]

Has this channel been renamed?

[lunar jacinth]

In beta my winglight is stuck at 34 no matter how many I pick

I restarted the game and it's fine now 🌚

[halcyon vine]

||i might not pay attention, but|| what is kill switch?

[sullen relic]

if you take too long to give winged light to the statues in eden, the game will force you to die by making you drop winged light automatically -- this was designed as a way to counteract the death looping since players were unable to move on due to other players in the room still being alive

[sick pendant]

Please tell them that making the milestone for hearts higher won't affect farming groups.

But quite the opposite. Ppl enroll in such groups because they struggle to get enough likes in the first place. Making the milestone higher will have the exact opposite affect and will only encourage ppl to enroll in such groups.

As for me personally, I don't have a lot of friends but thankfully i manage to get 10 to 13 likes in 24 hours. If this change is not rebalanced I will enroll into heart farming groups because I know for sure I won't be able to reach 30+likes. And I'm sure a lot of ppl like me will do so.

P. S. Again i really hope this isn't a marketing strategy to increase candle pack sales. As a game company in a capitalistic country TGC has all the rights to do so. I know. But as for me, who didn't quit sky because felt like a part of a community, that will be disappointing.

[halcyon vine]

How long it takes to make the switch active?

[sick pendant]

For me it was 10ish minutes after hte first death

[halcyon vine]

Oh quite short time. Thank u for answering guys

[left dragon]

Last time i checked it was 25 minutes
We still dont know exact official time, but it seems to be different depending on conditions...(?) 10-25 minutes

[slim kayak]

The time it takes seems to depend on when you enter pnr, and how many people are in your instance

[pale junco]

#beta-general-discussion

[opaque swan]

Wonder when the other general chats gonna open up again, I miss talking to people qwq also how long is left of the season in beta? I don't have the app on my phone right now

[sick pendant]

.... Its been 84 years..... titanic theme music starts playing

[crude crystal]

11days

[deft belfry]

11 days? wow

[late mountain]

Or until they finish needing testing for it. Might be sooner or later depending what's needed

[stuck nest]

can I ask what's happening on beta? I like spoilers and can't join beta :>

[tender oasis]

The beta updates and this channel are good places to check if you are curious about the latest ‘news’ of beta. At the moment not much is different from the live version. We are still testing the daily light system tho, but other than that, almost everything is the same.

[stuck nest]

A- oke T^T
Wait what happened to the pink grass

[finite meteor]

it was for days of love
which i think ended in beta already?

[tender oasis]

Pink grass was part of the Days of Love testing which ended here, but will be available in live soon enough.

[limpid crown]

Now now now, since when did Beta General was changed to Beta Testing?
Nvm, It was like a few hours ago

[twilit vault]

Did the ||violin|| come to beta? I saw someone post it in ig ??

[daring gate]

Did it get changed so people don’t use it like a general chat?

[finite meteor]

there has never been a violin in beta

[daring gate]

Sorry but I don’t recall a violing existing yet? Is that another thing brought to life before proper release like the next season spoilers floating around already?

[hollow compass]

This channel was never meant to be used as a general chat. It’s for discussing beta-related issues and features.

[daring gate]

I never said it wasn’t supposed to get changed, I just asked if it got changed to not confuse others.

[timid bough]

always refer to official announcements for in-game content like this if its not mentioned its probably fan content or hacked content

[hollow compass]

I suppose that’s possible, given the recent influx of chatty comments here.

[daring gate]

Speaking of chatty influx, will the gen chat get started back now that there’s an apology? I’m asking in case someone commented on that and I missed it.

[hollow compass]

That’s not for us to decide. I haven’t seen anything about it. I suppose those who liked that channel will just have to wait and see. 🙂

[dry flax]

I saw couple of people playing violin sounds too. Also some sitting on some kind of 2 player table! I came here to check if I missed some update. All this in prairie social

[zinc prawn]

anything of that matter being shown are from illegal resources and unreleased content by hackers

Best if we all dont talk about stuff like that and we dont know if any of that is true

However, violins have been highly requested as an item in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived , we may see something like that someday

[worn field]

in general, it’s best not to trust info on upcoming content that doesn’t come from TGC themselves, since any other info is only a rumour or misinformation or otherwise illegitimate
there is currently no violin being beta tested, and TGC has made no announcements about plans for a violin so far

[sick pendant]

The night stadium constellation button made it to live

[craggy bloom]

Its not out anywhere, if you saw anyone playing violin, report them as hacker i actually saw someone playing it on live...

[stray elk]

Does the warp glitch work on the starry stadium

[steady pond]

warp glitch..?

[twilit vault]

😮 okayy

[sick pendant]

Wdym by warp glitch 👀

[slim kayak]

Is anyone's return shrine at home missing?

[hollow compass]

Did you just come back from Eden?

[sly arch]

Question: is the candle cakes in Trials are available to Live yet?

Thanks for answering, I haven’t do any trials since my Winged Light Trial runs

[slim kayak]

I came back from eden a few days ago and did some dailies since then

[hollow compass]

Well, that's weird. I'm about to get on beta soon and can check how mine looks.

[finite meteor]

is that the old OreoNo reaction-

[slim kayak]

Welp, its back now... no idea what happened there

[carmine thorn]

Maybe your checkpoint was bugged? I notice rarely, when I bug out my checkpoint by backtracking with some areas (like removing rain by lighting the candles in forest, then going back to CR for no rain) can break checkpoints. I only had it happen once, but since I was playing the game in unintended ways, and can't reliably replicate, I didn't file a bug report.

[slim kayak]

Hmm perhaps. Kinda strange though, I've never seen that happen to anyone before

[tender oasis]

Not related to this topic but anyone remembers when was warp removed to new players/capeless in isle? I really don’t have any idea.

[radiant drum]

I have removed a few reactions from a recent message here that had the old emote. Please keep in mind that we do not allow hosting emotes from this server elsewhere, as they are Sky assets or artworks TGC made specifically for this server, or community artworks used with given permission.

To whoever added that emote, I kindly request for them to ask the owners of the server to take it down as well.

[sick pendant]

Mine seemed normal idk.. I too came back from the dead recently

[sick pendant]

Was the emote changed because it was too negative/aggressive looking?

[lyric kite]

Yeah, I remember someone saying there had been some feedback that the old "no" emote was being perceived as a bit too harsh, so it was changed a bit

[slim kayak]

i was just hanging out at home, and voi was lighting the candles to get the daily quest, and somehow i got it too without even being close to them

[minor falcon]

glad to be of service

[sick pendant]

When in live I too was just chilling doing absolutely nothing and suddenly I heard that lil sound u hear when you do a sted of a multipstep task (like light X amount of candles). Anyways it went for a while and at the end I got the task done too.
I didn't have any ppl around tho... Iirc

[lapis ore]

Yeah I remember getting the quest once for someone else lighting candles near me Dq are a bit buggy

[strong pine]

Broooo i literally had a dream last night where i collected about 30 hearts in one day and was gonna buy the purple cape

[carmine thorn]

Make an acquaintance is the buggiest in my experience.

Fly over the entrance cloud in an empty prairie, sure, that's making an acquaintance.

[strong pine]

Making friends with the clouds lmao

[cyan knoll]

sorry i’m not in beta at the moment n i need to ask, can you redo the last dreams quest as many times as you want?

[carmine thorn]

We can in beta for testing purposes. Don't know if that would change for live though. (Or were we told we'd be able to in live?) Most seasonal quests can't be repeated in live except for the prophecy trials and the "catch the light" daily quests when they pop in.

[minor falcon]

you can repeat all dreams quests so far in live

[tranquil ether]

anyone notice that the channel name has changed?

[hidden nova]

impossible other players cant see manualy changed textures or items it has to be on servers side i dunno if i should put this with a spoiler tag though

oh nvm if it was a post from the owner of the hacked content then ig it is fanmade

[opaque yew]

Apparently the new eden kill switch time is too short, I saw 2 posts on FB they weren’t done saving the statue when the switch activates

[slim kayak]

please submit feedback about that in #live-feedback that would be good for the devs to know

[opaque yew]

Yes already did 😁

[lavish dawn]

Sorry to ask, but still what’s the beef sky had with Korean community?

[orchid nexus]

Sky has no beefs with anyone, but details of a situation that has caused a lot of conflict in the community are still better researched outside discord; biases and arguments are still involved. Also, it's not a beta testing topic.

[lavish dawn]

@orchid nexus I see, thanks moderator~😃, the point is I don’t know the issue is beta related or not. But I’m in stand with Sky, no need for apologize if you didn’t do something wrong, thank you and supports~😃

[cold beacon]

"We want to drive meaningful connections between individuals" hahahaha It is hard to believe this because all the content and events that you (tgc) do is thinking about making money. All you do is wanting to take money from the players

[lavish dawn]

@cold beacon That is not true buddy, as far as I can see sky is way more player concern than 100% gacha game over the entire mobile app.

And it is the lunar calendar new year, why not to have some celebration for the overcome of all the hardships last year

[carmine thorn]

Can we please keep this channel for testing discussion as stated by the channel name and previous mod and TGC staff requests?

[dapper nova]

At least they still give items for in game currency, not all the items are IAP

[simple coyote]

Now that's a lie. They're making many events with igc for f2p players, not to count that seasons are having great non AP items as well. TGC is excellent in balancing the scales when it comes to f2p and p2w players, and even though they're not the best, they come waaaay before many gacha games

[rustic imp]

Please keep in mind that moderators ask everyone to keep it respectful here, no matter what the subject is and no matter who you are talking to or about. We want a welcoming space for discussion, so continued insults will not be welcome. Discussion can help your ideas, but if you have thoughts you want TGC staff to read please direct go to #live-feedback for live things and #beta-feedback for beta things. It makes sure you are heard by tgc.

[hollow jay]

and more importantly, regarding p2w: you can't really "Win" in sky with paying.

Well...but You can win many friends over ofc just like the mysterious friendliness ranking in beta. You can't beat the rank with paying but with investment in time and love hanging out with friends

[strong tangle]

For saying no tgc isn't money hungry tgc is the most kindest and family friendly and always wants to be fair for players the customs isn't important the game is for fun not for only collecting stuff...more good things then stuff is making friends

[spark lance]

Although I wish the orange wasn't IAP, as well as a few other days of fortune/love cosmetics. It's not an issue for me but my friend REALLY wants the orange, and it's not that it's too expensive she just has no way of spending money in the game.
Also, in beta I think for a little while the "blush" mask wasn't IAP and I wish they kept it that way. There are a lot of in game currency items but way more stuff you have to pay for. In my opinion, it's getting a little too expensive aswell. (I mean almost 30 bucks for a outfit set?) No hate to tgc, I'm just sharing some thoughts. Sorry if any of you took this the wrong way.

[lusty light]

The blush mask was always iap and announced to be iap in the teaser blog

[dapper nova]

Understandable, I've been asking tgc (in #beta-feedback before, now in #live-feedback ) to separate all the items in the bundle or just any way to purchase only one of the items, because it's way too expensive in my currency and I only want the cape I don't wanna spend 100+ for 1 cape and then let the mask and hair rot in my closet

[spark lance]

Whoops, that's my bad. Memory is failing me haha

[spark lance]

Yeah, in my opinion I think they could have seperated the cape and then a different bundle with hair and mask

[wheat blade]

i realize this is probably not the place, but because i love beta team the most, and because i know yall will only tease me a little (appropriately)...
can someone tell me the significance of the 🍊??

[cyan knoll]

it’s a lunar new year thing, i don’t celebrate it so i couldn’t really give a good answer but mandarins/tangerines/etc are traditionally symbols of good fortune and abundance(?) it would be better to google it lol (basically it’s a real world tie-in)

[tropic python]

Maybe future options where the individual items can be avaliable for IAP as well as a whole bundle that has a slight discount? This way players who only want 1-2 items without dishing extra crash out and players who want everythere tgc has to offer can be happy

[wheat blade]

oh duh 🤦🏻‍♀️
thank you Tomie! 🥰
google says oranges are gifts of good luck and prosperity, little “gold” symbols of wealth...

i would be happier to receive the symbolic orange, than to purchase it for myself. like TGC wishing me prosperity — so that i could, in turn, purchase the 100$ goody-pack when their good fortune smiles upon me 🤩

[pale junco]

#beta-discussion message

[primal kraken]

Is the dress official?-

[vital sentinel]

As soemone who celebrate Lunar New Year, i approve this statement we also have a tradition to throw tangerines in every rooms in our house, in hope to spread good fortune and cast away unlucky spirits

[cyan knoll]

awe haha that reminds me of mamemaki, my family’s japanese and we tossed roasted soybeans out the front and back of our house for the same reasons (sorry in advance for being offtopic this is my last msg)

[empty inlet]

Oni ha soto, fuku ha uchi
Demon out, fortune in

[void mica]

bored

[steady pond]

its reset, go do some runs or bug hunting in beta

[void mica]

Yes, look for errors

[pale junco]

Conspiracy theory: tgc is training us with the dragon so we can land on the krill when they make one rideable

[spark lance]

c o n s p i r a c y

[worldly warren]

When will the beta test qualification be issued? Where is it distributed? Ask if you don't understand.

[stray elk]

I just hope it won't dash like other rideable things

[steady pond]

#beta-faq message

[void mica]

#beta-faq message

[worldly warren]

Thank you! !

[worldly warren]

Thank you! !

[worldly warren]

Also, where should I copy this?

[void mica]

Long press the selected word

All the items in the beta have been tested, and the bugs are not found. What else is tested?

[late mountain]

Beta usually gets content and potential bug fixes before it comes to live. Major bugs are identified and weeded out, smaller bugs are also usually identified although some may leak through to live depending on how easy it is to fix and if there’s time. Some bugs are much more live specific like the recent spirit bug, which didn’t impact beta nearly as much.

[void mica]

I know this situation. Spirit bugs happen at a very small rate. If you find the bugs, you can release the fixed beta as well. Thank you for your response!

[hollow compass]

Rotfl! I just bowed at an empty constellation platform and got the quest completed.

[steady pond]

once, for the light up an acquaintance quest, i got it by somehow flying into the forest entrance
could never replicate that since
quests be buggy and weird

[minor falcon]

I always bow at an empty constellation stone for the bow at player quest, works every time

[spark lance]

DOOM

[finite meteor]

me when i went on my first eden run

[velvet atlas]

When are the candle cakes supposed to go Live for Vault and other areas? Asked in reg Q&A and they told me to ask here

My misunderstanding

[finite meteor]

we dont know when beta stuff will hit live unless its a season or an event

[hollow compass]

We didn't really tell you to go ask here. It's just that beta content needs to stay here. As wolfy said, we don't know what TGC's schedule is. We just test things.

[sullen relic]

We don’t even have confirmation they’re going live as candle cakes specifically — cakes are just easy ways to add wax to levels for testing, when they may intend to split that wax across the level in smaller bunches so it blends into the level more

[hollow compass]

Oh, I forgot! That's true. Sorry for the confusion.

[velvet atlas]

I hope this is the place to ask... the boat at home says 11 days to go. Can someone explain what happens in 11 days? Does the boat with shop dissappear?

[carmine thorn]

I wonder if we'll see new candle assets instead of smaller candles in Vault, forest and the trials. Imagine, new looks.

[gilded parrot]

The hardest part is starting! You can do it!

[minor falcon]

new type of darkness "flowers" with a wax yield similar to a cake? excited to see what they'll look like in the future

[carmine thorn]

Since forest is half candles and half darkness plants, I already put on beta feedback that the design team can make a pseudo candle/darkness in the sewer to show the corruption. They do have a sizable dome to work with by that cake.

[oak sedge]

Have they fixed the issue with the daily lights system giving people who do a full cr less candles than how many you'd usually get on live with a full cr?

[tender oasis]

It's around the same atm. I dont know the exact number but the last time i checked it was between 18-19 in beta.

[orchid yacht]

there were candles added in forest too?

[carmine thorn]

One candle cake in the seasonal spirit sewer tunnel.

[orchid yacht]

seasonal spirit sewer tunnel... does anyone have a picture?

[carmine thorn]

There's one in #beta-screenshots-videos somewhere.

[kindred fossil]

Kabuki tunnel

[carmine thorn]

#beta-screenshots-videos message

[kindred fossil]

Wonder who's that handsome fella

[carmine thorn]

Searched and found that image and see you post the answer, great timing.

[surreal beacon]

So far these are the areas with the new candle cakes that I know so far:
Vault
Prophecy Trials
Forest Kabuki tunnel

Are there any more areas with new candle cakes, and does the Fire trial have a candle cake too?

[carmine thorn]

Yes, fire trial has 2 4 cakes.

[foggy atlas]

Fire trial had 4 last time I checked

[carmine thorn]

Thanks for the clarification. I never checked. I still have ptsd from the thousand iterations we beta tested, so haven't even gone back in live yet.

[foggy atlas]

No problem and understandable! Ahahah

[tender oasis]

My favorite was the immortal grey kid with shaking screen version. But i’m also burned out of that particular trial i don’t set a foot there without a friend.

[amber shell]

Hi, is anyone else having the bug of not being able to collect winged light at certain locations?

[carmine thorn]

I have heard of it and see bug reports about it. I would suggest filling out another report so they know the scope of the issue and who it affects and which WL are affected.

It might have been a fix they were trying to the "already collected WL" bug that's been plaguing the game for at least 6 months. Maybe those are the WL that would usually show up as already acquired?

[deft belfry]

I thought they where gunna add that beautiful purple grass im home from beta into live 😔

[carmine thorn]

That should show tomorrow. It's for Days of Love event, not the lunar event.

[deft belfry]

Ah that was a thought

[quick harbor]

Oohh valentines day is on sunday

[hollow bolt]

Happy CNY beta friends! 🥳

[wary star]

WHERE IT IS I WANNASSE

[limpid crown]

Is there a Exact reason why they increased the amount of likes needed for Note Shrines, Meditation Shrines and Message Boats?

[stable dove]

Idk if this a bug but I went to forest and seasonal collected wax, then tap the icon for candle however I saw a random chibi seasonal candle hovering above them

[slim kayak]

Hmm... I'm not sure if I'm completely understanding what happened. You collected seasonal candle wax and the animation showed a seasonal candle being collected?
If thats the case, then its working as intended

[stable dove]

I saw the animation with the candle on the chibi, I don’t see that on other players on live only sound and light effect

[slim kayak]

Ah, yeah, that was a recent update. You can now see what other players collect. You can even see them get hearts and cosmetics from constellations now

[steady pond]

some posts by ktjn
#beta-discussion message

#beta-discussion message

[severe compass]

Uhh question-- does anyone here know when the new dress cosmetic will be released? Or a good estimate when?? Please and thank you 👉🏼👈🏼

[slim kayak]

none of us know when it will be released. we don't even have access to it right now in beta
us testers don't get any extra info on release dates

[silent lily]

I think i understand their point of view. This system was never intended for getting constant hearts regularly. It was as simple as you post a nice message and if people love it, they like it and you get a little reward for that message. But the view is different now with all the heart farming groups, and that's the thing they don't like.
They simply want us to understand that sky is more than just candles and hearts

[shell bolt]

Correct me if I’m wrong but I think it was part of an official statement when prophecy trials were released - when asked why they didn’t put many wax candles in the trials (especially fire), TGC responded by saying that they don’t want their players to go through such challenges and occupy so much time for that trial.

And now they go ahead and add 10+ cakes to the trials? What’s the point of making the candle forging system more quick and efficient for those who don’t have time. You just put cakes in much much more time consuming places.

[sullen relic]

a similar question was addressed a while ago: #beta-discussion message

[timid bough]

the new light system (If im correct) is basically more wax than you can forge in a day which means you can choose where you want to run

[shell bolt]

Okay.. that offers a helpful perspective. Thank you

[hollow compass]

I kind of want LoneWolf's message to be pinned, because that is really it.

[shell bolt]

I mean I get it but also, with a live game like Sky, there’s bound to be unexpected usage of the systems the devs put in place.

I see some notes being one single emoji and getting 1000 likes. I don’t think that’s meaningful or nice in any way.. I know friends who put in way more effort in their notes. Poems, song lyrics, some kind of inspiring quote. Myself included, and we never get more than 15 likes.

One way I can think of is they put in a limit and automatically remove a note at 60 likes. That way it makes way for notes that still need likes to get to 50.

[elfin raft]

Hi,I'm not sure of I should talk about this,but
||my friend who is a hacker(still not banned?) somehow made himself invisible(gray) but I could hear his call. I think hackers are using this method so the people who lighted them won't report them)||

[slim kayak]

i do agree that notes getting thousands of likes isn't very meaningful anymore, even though messages that have meaning should be the ones with a lot of likes. but i think that removing them all together is a bit much. i think it would be enough to make those big messages friends only after a certain point like how they are before they hit 3 likes. less clutter in the shrines, but friends can still appreciate each other's messages

i think it's best to send that info to @hardy carbon instead, since we aren't supposed to talk about them here @elfin raft

[elfin raft]

Hm should I just send my message to the bot? What exactly will happen if I send it?

[slim kayak]

messaging the bot will send it to a developer directly

[elfin raft]

Oh I see,thank you!

[shell bolt]

Fair point. I can state it better and concentrate instead on visibility of these notes. Maybe devs can try to regulate what is more visible to friends and people. Make your friends notes and recent notes with less likes more visible. That’ll help both in making the note go public + making it available to more strangers.

[slim kayak]

yeah, i like that idea. i'd love to see smaller like counts from strangers more often, and make it easier to find my friends' notes. although i understand why they wouldn't want to do this completely, since its expected that the larger liked notes are the 'best' ones to look at, given the fact that a lot of people liked it. idk, i'd like a balance of 1 large note that hasn't hit the 'friends only' limit (if there was one), 2 smaller stranger notes, and 3 friend notes. something like that would be nice.
then again, this is a live topic that's probably better fit in #cozy-sky-discussion

[void mica]

Why there is no news?

[hollow compass]

News about what?

[void mica]

Follow the latest beta news.

[carmine thorn]

Nothing to really talk about. Nothing new, just the same ole same ole in beta right now. Only thing to test that isn't live is daily light system and the last seasonal quest. Nothing else is different really.

[minor falcon]

I have a feeling dreams beta cycle is winding down, season ending soon and we're entering a bit of down time before the new wave sometime at the beginning of next month watch the be a huge update next week or smt though, nothing is certain

[void mica]

To be honest, extending the 20-day dream season almost made me happy. I don’t know why the 20-day extension is meant to test more things, so what is it?

[timid bough]

things quieting down just means more things in development under the wraps

[void mica]

Okay, wait.

[minor falcon]

it's good to have the season still active in beta for last minute checks before the last quest goes live, we should all run through it a few times - didn't ktjn mention some kind of extra thing as well like the ark shops? maybe we'll test that (if it's not the snowfall in village )

[void mica]

omg

[pulsar blade]

If i deleted my beta app. But still i can download the app via testflight since its not yet wipe out schedelu. Will my beta data still remaim

[limpid crown]

I believe yes? Just make sure it's link onto something (e.g. Google, Facebook)

[spark lance]

Hello, may i know the full amount of candles can be collected in a full cr. With the new candle cakes addition

[pulsar blade]

Yeah. Its always link to gamexenter

[minor falcon]

your beta access it's tied to your apple id or gmail iirc, you can just redownload

[hidden nova]

Not how that works or will not work soon because they will set limit to how many you can collect a day, for now the limit is 18 candles i believe, they just added those so theres a variaty and you can choose which realm you want to farm to, after 3 and half of the realms candles and plants no longer give wax, sorry for long text but i felt like it needed explaining with it

[timid bough]

they do give wax but not enough to make any difference

[hidden nova]

Hmmm how far can you go with it like can you get atleast half of the candle? Imma test that

[timid bough]

when you run out of chevrons its just pain

[minor falcon]

we haven't hit the absolute hard cap yet I believe, 0 chevron pace functions as one for many

[spark lance]

@hidden nova thank you!
Because i never done a full run in beta and a friend asked if doing full run will still give a lot more amount of candles. Thank you! I appreciate your answer it's very helpful. 👍

[mighty estuary]

Ahh sorry for the ping momo-san, maybe this will help. [Android] i deleted my beta app a few weeks ago but when i checked it again in the app store, it's still available for me to download again. And the data remains the same since it's connected with my google account which will automatically syncing to sky neta

[radiant drum]

@limber cargo please don't spam emotes

[limber cargo]

9ki

[elder musk]

I wonder if the Nintendo Switch port will have pre-live beta? (It’s now announced for Spring 2021.)

[kindred fossil]

Limited live? Dunno

[elder musk]

I am really curious how it would look like, esp. the chat feature and if you need Nintendo Online subscription

[finite meteor]

if it does- that'll be interesting

[sly arch]

As I heard right now, free games like Sky, don’t need Online subscription, paid games need. But . And this is my theory, Sky Chat will probably take full screen like other games use on Switch or maybe TGC will develop a Keyboard separate from the Switch System Keyboard. Please take my theory in a grain of Salt, don’t believe anything I said, things might change on the Full Release. And for Beta Version of Sky on Switch? Well I actually don’t know, I think you might need a Nintendo Developer Account or something to able to Join the Beta. This is just my theory and my Thoughts. As right now, I suggest hear all the news about Sky on Switch from the TGC themselves. Especially on the here from Kjin and TGC Staff, on Official Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, the TGC website itself

Now, I recently just went on the Support Website and I saw something. I didn’t know there’s a beta version of Sky for Mac. Well obviously it Testing to be release on Mac as Live but again

[slim kayak]

There is no public beta for the switch. So its unlikely that us players will test the switch version like we do for mobile

[sly arch]

That’s true since I don’t see anyway to access any beta games then having a Nintendo developer account.

[daring gate]

So how exactly does the daily light count function when you run out of chevrons? Do you just stop getting wax

[slim kayak]

You don't stop getting wax, its just really really really slow

[daring gate]

So what’s the max max max amount of candles you can get then? Like you ran everything despite being out of chevrons. Do you ever get to 19?

[slim kayak]

I think some have gotten 18 so far. But the system is still being developed. From what I understand, the devs want to be able to have players hit the hard cap without collecting everything, so that players can choose where they go

[vital sentinel]

spring 2021... so like on a month ranged from march to june?

[lyric kite]

We really don't know much of anything about the Switch release other than what's already been said. They'll give us more updates when they're ready to do so, but I think the spring part is just an estimate, it's possible it could get pushed back again if it's not ready in time. Keep in mind they are still working from home so development may be slower than it would be if they were in their main office with all of their resources in one place

[mossy glacier]

Is this beta gen chat but renamed?

Seems like it

[gilded parrot]

We were born for this

[mossy glacier]

Just found this, I think it's a lot more better named this way

[lament mica]

I regularly get 19. It takes me about 2h- 2h30 for a full-full candle run (including trials and Eden). I believe each speed is active for 5 candles, so with speed zero you can get 4 candles total (but I could be mistaken).

[tender knoll]

Um... so im at home space and theres a line of smoke or sort.

#beta-screenshots-videos message

[fleet cave]

Equality

[karmic kestrel]

Finally got 20 hearts so i can get a chibi mask do fall if no one is around

[carmine thorn]

Good thing I waited to send hearts until now. Enjoy the double hearts.

[cosmic ivy]

I hope everyone is having fun in Beta ♥︎♥︎♥︎

[slim kayak]

double hearts!

[hollow compass]

Aw, yey! 💞

[tender oasis]

Oh wow surprise ping thank you

[sturdy hazel]

wait so double heart gifting wasn't enabled already-

[tiny breach]

Wait that’s what I thought too lmao but I guess it wasn’t??

[lapis ore]

Oop and I just sent a heart to someone too hopefully it was doubled

[hollow compass]

The event is over in beta, but double heart was activated as a gift from TGC.

[lapis ore]

Ohh wait so there’s double heart in beta too then? Cool

[tiny breach]

Ohhhh so they activated it in beta I understand

[vapid fractal]

I just feel so happy sometimes when I see and join a beta and see how events go and see how the final result looks with hopefully less bugs works
Skybot spare me pls- that’s not what I meant

[gilded parrot]

@vapid fractal, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.

[lapis ore]

Pink home looks extra pretty cleaned up in live and kinda less like paint I guess

[orchid yacht]

I'm glad they fixed it so the side of the constellation platform is pink

Thanks ktjn for the double heart! Much appreciated!

[minor falcon]

double hearts! exciting

[austere merlin]

So we’re getting double hearts in beta? I’m sorry the wording confuses me a little

[carmine thorn]

Yes, we're getting double hearts during live's days of love event.

[austere merlin]

Ahh, thanks

[carmine thorn]

Now if only beta's season could end... Only have 30 candles left to give friends hearts.

[minor falcon]

same, just got to 1500 seasonals and if these convert you get a heart! and you get a heart!

[mossy glacier]

I was wondering, can kill switch be turned on/off so it doesn't happen?
Or it just automatically activates?

I was thinking of situations like what if someone had to do errands or chores and need to leave their phone, but not the game because they're ||planning to die|| with friends?

As someone who tends to go afk when in Eden while being a "changer" to a friend, especially when I'm already done collecting ||the statues||, I fear that I wouldn't be able to be together with my friends to ||orbit after dying||

Anyways I think something similar to kill switch would be useful in other realms such as when being ubered. Like if no one is holding their hand and they haven't move for so long (like an hour or so) would be very helpful especially for players who sometimes falls asleep in game

[hollow compass]

I don’t think a kill switch in other areas than Eden would be sense. I also don’t think TGC would adjust game features just because players go afk deliberately or fall asleep in real life.

If anything, that’s a sign of unhealthy behaviour in general and shouldn’t be encouraged.

[mossy glacier]

Who knows what TGC thinks about it, they're just some bits of my thoughts
Not encouraging "unhealthy behaviour" too but some people couldn't help it

Not expecting TGC to do them, but would be nice to save battery lol

But since kill switch is being tested at the moment in Eden, I'm not sure if that would be useful to people with sudden errands and planned to do everything with friends. That's why I was wondering for that part of the kill switch

[hollow compass]

It sounds like you are talking about the game logging you off or closing completely after some time of inactivity. But that’s not what the kill switch is.

[mossy glacier]

Oh no, i'm talking about the kill switch that's currently being tested now. The other one were some of my thoughts about different "kill switch" in other realms

Anyways back to the kill switch we're testing, I was asking for the situation like what if you ||died|| first before your friends because ||you didnt give any wl to statues (let's say your friends are giving wl to statues and you're being a charger to their light)||, and you planned to go ||orbit|| together in the first place?

[austere merlin]

You don’t need to spoiler your text 💜

[mossy glacier]

I apologize for the confusion. I don't think this discussion is going anywhere so maybe let's forget what I just sent lol. Really sorry for the messy explanation

[little lion]

hi

[hollow compass]

Well, when some of us tested the kill switch one person went ahead and died almost immediately. It then took about 20 mins for the rest of us to have the automatic wl shower. But we could all meet going into orbit. The key is to hug the kid at the same-ish time and maybe have warp unlocked also.

[little lion]

[hollow compass]

Hi, perhaps you’re looking for a chattier channel like #cozy-sky-discussion . This is the beta area of the server and there may be lots of spoilers.

[little lion]

I want to ask, is it on this channel to compete for test uniforms? My English is not very good, using translation software.

[slim kayak]

#beta-signup-info is usually when we get to know when beta invites will happen. i suggest going through #beta-faq to get the roles to be notified when they happen, and to learn more about beta and what it is. the next invite will not happen for about another month or so, but we do not know when it will happen exactly

[hollow compass]

You can find out more about how to join beta in #beta-faq

[gilded parrot]

@hollow compass, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.

[torn flax]

I couldn't buy the swing :/

[minor falcon]

days of love was in beta for only a few days yes

[little lion]

Thank you!

[tranquil ether]

I was in the beta-faq channel when I came across the word MOTD. Anyone know what that stands for?

[minor falcon]

message of the day

[radiant drum]

The message you see in the splash screen when you start the game

[slim kayak]

still waiting for motd to say sneep snorp

[empty inlet]

situation when wing light won't register: when tapped the wing light but entered cutscene (e.g. rain forest bridge) before it's collected

[slim kayak]

interesting, it registered for me in the same situation last time. although i've had one of the pineswood wl not register, as well as the one in the hollow tree in the broken bridge area. i think i can try to replicate the cutscene wl, i haven't collected forest yet

[hollow compass]

I had GW wl not register the other day. Probably one near shipwreck.

[carmine thorn]

All the empty shrines in beta.

[empty inlet]

my screen also turned white when it didn't register, could this be a clue

[gilded talon]

If you enter a map then it’s normal that it doesn’t register. but if it’s just a cutscene within the same instance and it causes the WL to not register then it seems like a bug. I never had this kind of bug before tho

[empty inlet]

^ definitely did not enter another map since I was standing on the last tower of forest bridge

[slim kayak]

the ghost wl is when you collect a wl but the game doesn't register it. so you don't recharge, your count doesn't go up, and you basically lose that wl until you go to eden. although i've heard some players could get it back by reentering the area, but i've never been able to do it

[gilded talon]

I’ve had ghost WL bug before but never with the cutscene

[carmine thorn]

Only WL bug I encountered is where they already show as collected after rebirth.

[vapid drum]

Finally , lighting up the friend constellation is normal again in beta 😍 havent kept track since what update though

[empty inlet]

another situation when wl won't register: floating in the air

[vapid drum]

Emma, i remember putting in a bug report really long ago where the winged light wouldn’t register when going from the eden temple first area to the temple where you enter the krill area . That one was resolved not long after . That’s like going from one area to another

[empty inlet]

now im encountering the weirdest situation: wl just won't register no matter what

[vapid drum]

Oeh , i will hop on to try it out , i still have to collect all

No problem on my side

[empty inlet]

have you collected wl from wasteland?

[carmine thorn]

I have all WL collected from GW. Did that last week though and haven't does yet since I have just about 10 AC.

[empty inlet]

idk if it's because the server or some other reason.
I didn't have much server merge today

[vapid drum]

I tried the floating , but this was in prairie , let me get to wasteland

[gilded talon]

So you mean now hopping from one area to another no longer cause your WL to not register? I’m gonna hop on to check too thx rob

[vapid drum]

@gilded talon that one used to be solved , don’t know how it is now though. The eden temple and 2nd area of wasteland is the only area too where I can imagine having this situation

@empty inlet posted in screenshots , i could collect them without problems in wasteland too

[empty inlet]

while I already have 8 ghost wl and the run is not finished

[empty inlet]

ended with 10 ghost wl

[gilded talon]

@tender oasis lol I crashed. Didn’t expect that

[tender oasis]

Sorry me neither tbh, we never crashed there

[gilded talon]

Oh don’t be. it was just so much fun I’d call it another successful attempt to break Eden and thx for letting me tag along

[tender oasis]

Sure thing, hope you could finish properly this time without me interfering.

[gilded talon]

I just tried on Live and beta. Neither registered the WL. And server merged in Eden with Pakka

(Who took me on another Eden adventure

[vapid briar]

sorry for ping, can you give me a list of which ghost WL you ran into?

[empty inlet]

Sure just give me some time I can through the maps again and recall
Or would it help if I give you my sky ID?

[vapid briar]

i have your ID, basically i want to see if the missing ones you're seeing in-game are flagged as collected on your account, if that makes sense.

[empty inlet]

No it's not that account I friended with you

[vapid briar]

ahh okay

[empty inlet]

I'll send it through helpbot then? will also make the list for sure

[hybrid venture]

Ah, also found 2 ghost wls: daylight Prarie village in middle island, and sanctuary on the ledge below the bells/near the geyser D: managed to retrieve them by warping back there

[vapid briar]

in that case yeah, your ID, whichever are missing (it doesn't have to be all of them) and one screenshot of the ghost WL you see in-game would be super helpful. modmail works perfect. thank you!

i have a theory about what's causing it but i need to have eng dig deeper for me.

[stray elk]

Wait, double heart event or the cosmetics included?

[carmine thorn]

Just the event, we already tested the cosmetics.

[void mica]

Where is that activity tested?

[steady pond]

beta

[carmine thorn]

The cosmetics? In beta. We test the cosmetics for any anomalies, like clipping, color issues, reflections, etc before they are released in live.

[void mica]

Is it a double gift?

[carmine thorn]

We got double heart gifts enabled for us during the live event. I don't think I understand the question.

[void mica]

I probably get it, thank you.

[steady pond]

message boat lanterns came onto beta at the same time days of fortune began, right...? correct me if i'm wrong but i wonder why we don't have the lanterns on live. it's not mentioned in the news post either.

[orchid yacht]

Double heart is enabled for beta users as a way of saying thank you for testing the event

[void mica]

Lantern was published in a news post, it was actually published before

[steady pond]

yes i know, that's why i'm wondering why it's gone from the updated version of it

[sullen relic]

The lanterns only became active on beta during the third phase of the double event (I.e. after Days of Love ended)

[steady pond]

ahhh ok, got it. still doesnt make sense to me why its gone from the news post but at least theres some hope of seeing it on live.
thank you!

[void mica]

It may be a bug, I saw the lantern in the latest version, no exception

[lusty light]

Lantern and boats were added into the game with the days of summer lights event, not days of fortune

[steady pond]

i see. i was under the impression that message boats being reskinned into lanterns was for the duration of days of fortune event, much like how boats got candles on them during days of feast, but i guess not 🤔 ty ty!

edit: happens to the best of us lols

[lusty light]

Oh I misread

[regal elk]

Hello yes this is a random question but its very important uh,,

swing or seesaw?
having a hard choice :"]]

[void mica]

Children choose, I want it!

[steady pond]

might wanna go to #cozy-sky-discussion for this
but id pick the swing since you can still sit on it by yourself. sitting on the seesaw alone is the saddest thing ever lol

[round marten]

I found that many Chinese people are discussing how to hack the beta server, and even take it for granted, what should I do?

[void mica]

Can give feedback or ignore them

[round marten]

It seems that the sky game can only report other players when they are online

[slim kayak]

ah yeah, unfortunately you can't report them unless they are online. if you had any other information about them outside of sky, you could try and contact the developers by messageing @hardy carbon but otherwise you have to report them in the game

[void mica]

找 @hardy carbon 反馈（Find it feedback）

[round marten]

@void mica @slim kayak Thanks! I'll try it

[steady pond]

im late to the discussion, but if you find them discussing the methods they plan to use to hack into beta, it would be helpful to give the details of that to @hardy carbon too

[pale junco]

Am i blind or the grass is still the same as it was in beta

[hollow compass]

The same as...what?

[carmine thorn]

We aren't in the days of love event. We just had double hearts enabled.

[hollow compass]

Yeah, the events are finished being tested in beta. That's how it usually works: we test before it arrives to Live.

Well, I just realised I can finish the Valley constellation and go to Eden for the haaaaairszzz. I can't believe I'm saying this, but is there now anything we should be testing in Eden again?

[slim kayak]

hmm... if you could get someone else to tag along, then ask them to wait 5-10 minutes before entering pnr after you enter. some players in live have had their eden runs cut short because they came in late and hit the kill switch. i'd volunteer but i've been on enough eden runs for a while

Well, if not, going alone is still good testing. Hopefully you won't encounter any weird crashes

[hollow compass]

I usually have a very smooth experience, luckily. Sometimes I don't even die, lolol But I wonder if asking someone to wait will work. Won't they end up in a different server instance?

[slim kayak]

Last time I went i lagged behind by roughly 6-7 minutes from my group, and was still able to meet up with them@hollow compass

[tough oracle]

I'm not sure where I've seen it, but I thought that once you get to the start of the second area of Eden where the krill are, you're basically stuck in the same server right?

[carmine thorn]

I thought it was within 15sec of entering pnr.

[slim kayak]

I'm not sure, but... when I was about to enter 6 minutes after the group started stormlock, I could hear the rock rain in the tunnel. Spooky
I was definitely still connected to the same instance even when I didnt go in at the same time. I stayed in the area just before the message popped up, so I think its fine for those who wanna replicate it

[hollow compass]

I've usually been split from others upon entering pnr, or shortly after. I think the game genrally tries to put lone or few players (2-3) into another one to make up a whol eight.

[slim kayak]

Hmm... usually in live, any player thats in my server during the second part of eden will stay in my server the entire time, even with staggered entrances to pnr. But perhaps I'm not recalling that right. I'll test that another day

[pulsar blade]

How much more before the next wipe if i may.

[slim kayak]

Like access wipe? We dont know, but its usually closer to the end of the season in live

[pulsar blade]

Another. For example i deleted my beta app today. But i still have a test flight code attached to me. So anytime before the wipe i can still download the beta and my data. Intact. But what if i managedto enter the next wave then i downloaded the beta app after lets say few days more after the wipe. (I dont have the beta app installed up to this day) , will my data still intact?

[hollow compass]

As long as you have connected your account to AppleID/Google etc, and you log in with the same credentials during the next beta wave, you should have the same account.

[pulsar blade]

Gamecenter is enough? Apple id i havent link yet

[tender oasis]

No sure about live since that has a wayy bigger player base, but i just tried in beta and i stayed in the same instance for a while, with the one who entered to the storm. (waited around 6-7 minutes)

[viscid umbra]

Hello there

[hollow compass]

General Kenobi.

Oh, well. Eden trip went smooth with no particular issues. I passed by one other player at the start, but we lost each other on the way to pnr. Got my Valley twins hair also. Left with 65 wings.

[lilac flicker]

Can I ask?

[tender oasis]

Sure @lilac flicker , in case it's beta related

[hollow compass]

You don't need to ask for permission to post a question. 😉

[near mason]

This is not beta related I think but I didn’t wanna spoil just in case but I remember during the days of love there was something like a new hat is it not there in live? Cause I can’t find it

[gilded talon]

It’s for the last week of days of fortune. So it’s not available yet.

[wild tree]

(just a quick question)

after how many months do the new beta invites come out once the previous one are taken by everyone?

(dunno if my question is relevant)

[latent plinth]

You mean the wool hat (??) You should wait, it would be sold soon

[tender oasis]

New invites usually come out around the end of the live season. We don’t know specifics, but if you react to the roles in #beta-faq you will get a notification when invites are happening. oh i see you have those already, don’t mind me

[formal lintel]

Hello can i ask? Double heart until when?

[tender oasis]

Same as live, thanks to the devs
12 noon PST (UTC-8) Sunday February 21st

[versed fjord]

without tasks and the free candle how many seasonal candles you can get daily?

[spark lance]

wait oops nevermind

[minor falcon]

20 from realms in beta

[versed fjord]

thank you

[drifting eagle]

did the boats turning into lanterns not make it to live?

[muted canopy]

did the servers die for anyone else?

[formal lintel]

I experience it right now in beta

[dire escarp]

Yep dead here too

[muted canopy]

rest in pizza

[proud sierra]

I was in the middle of Eden enjoying the music

[grim robin]

Guys will I seriously have to go to eden to get the option for founders cape? And other free purchases

[slim kayak]

@drifting eagle lanterns should come with the wool hat on the last week

[grim robin]

Hmmmmm

[dire escarp]

It's back, server go brrrr

[night fulcrum]

Is server maintenance being done now?

I was unable to connect to the server while playing the Trial of Fire.

[slim kayak]

@grim robin no? You'd be able to get them at any time, just like in live

[grim robin]

@slim kayak the only thing in the shop that has appeared for me is the red cape I think, I’ve finished vault and everything

[hollow compass]

You need to be in the office to be able to by the Founder's cape.

[empty inlet]

Does anyone have the make new acquaintance quest completed automatically?

[orchid yacht]

yes, happened in live too

[empty inlet]

Wondering if it's intended

[drifting eagle]

the intended method of completing it is light up a stranger
but it's very glitchy and often completes randomly

[empty inlet]

Seems that today you only need to be in the same server instance with a stranger for a certain amount of time and it is consistent

[slim kayak]

The 'light 20 candles' quest was completed by having 1 player light them in a server the other day. I was no where near the candles at home and I still got the quest

[orchid yacht]

I got light 20 candles on a broken chat bench once

[small swift]

I completed that quest as soon as I got it

[pulsar snow]

does anyone know how much crab spirit (a few weeks ago) tree costs. could i please see a picture

[hollow compass]

I don’t think crab spirit was a TS in beta, sorry. You can ask for that in #questions-and-help or #seasons-events-chat instead.

[floral bolt]

Could anyone please explain to me how I can join the beta? I already downloaded Testflight on my ios device

[gilded parrot]

@floral bolt, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.

[floral bolt]

Thank you, you’re a nice bot 😄

[stray elk]

Did anyone get any death loops? Also I never heard of death trigger before, is there a way to trigger it?

[drifting eagle]

after the first person dies in eden, the kill switch activates and you have a limited time to finish up
so to trigger it just have someone die before you!
oh dear sorry! my replies are being buggy. I meant to reply to @stray elk

[minor falcon]

haven't experienced any loops in this build myself, to trigger the kill switch enter pnr with someone and have them die before you, it should trigger after 20 or so minutes (depends on how many there are in the server etc)

[stray elk]

Does it/when does it trigger with only one person (aka myself)?

[minor falcon]

if you're by yourself in a server I don't see how it could, it starts counting after someone else has died while you haven't if I understand it correctly

[stray elk]

No wonder why I never seen it before I always go alone

[tender oasis]

Actually nobody has to die. If you are there long enough you will get kill switch no matter what.

[lament mica]

And just to back what Pakka said, it will kick in after 30 min in the same instance of the same server

[minor falcon]

talk about it being a brunt force fix for the deathloops, no more endless vibing in eden

[stray elk]

oof, I can do eden in around 15 minutes, no wonder why...

[keen tinsel]

Does anyone know when will the dress from beta go to the global server?

[neat stream]

It still has to be worked on I guess and that’s all I can say

[carmine thorn]

We... Don't even have the dress in beta anymore, so hitting live won't be for a while.

[vapid lichen]

A mini question, will the season end before or after the next ts arrive?

[carmine thorn]

The season in beta? Current timer shows the season will end in 8 days, so if it does end, it will be Sunday or Monday. They can extend or reduce the season timer in beta at any time though. We got 20 days added already for "extra testing."

[hoary cove]

@carmine thorn

[vapid lichen]

I see, tysm

[pulsar blade]

Is storm lock and unwanted travel to crystall a bug so far in beta or does it experiemced too in live. Im still about to go eden live during todays reset

[carmine thorn]

I think it would be experienced in live. Besides the daily light system, I don't think there is much difference between the versions right now. (Except for the events being turned on for live, and our DoLaF events already ended)

[pulsar blade]

Copy. I want to go eden live but its not reset yet so i cant confirm

[gilded talon]

Please kindly refrain from discussing hacked content here on this server let’s not give hackers any more attention

[subtle sequoia]

ooo alright sorry

[worn trail]

Beta testing discussion? Sounds better

[paper fable]

Can I share a link for a question of beta? Idk if it’s hacking because I saw like the cape less thing was a “thing” in beta FAQ I think

[gilded talon]

If it’s the invisicape you talk about then it’s a beta Easter egg. Beta testers could possibly obtain it legitimately

[paper fable]

Ohh oki ty!💌💖

[barren zenith]

me: got sky in 2020
Me: looks at how isle looked in 2018 after aviary update in the beta, proceeds to scream at the gorgeousness

[jovial ridge]

Uh so I saw the pinned and ktjn said Races doesn't give 2 candles anymore? So in beta we only got 1 candles even if we do both races?

[gilded talon]

For the moment it still gives 1 full candle for each race on beta. Seems that balancing will still be needed for these

[peak token]

is the kill switch is still on beta?

[tender oasis]

Both beta and live yes

[undone chasm]

Kill switch????

[gilded talon]

Look for that in the discord search bar and I’m sure you’ll get plenty of explanations on it

[tender oasis]

Quite a frightening name to call it like that in a normally peaceful game Long story short, if you spend too much time in eden after the point of no return, the game will make you lose your wings and fall into the dark room. They implemented this feature because there were several playerswho got deathloops constantly, and couldn’t move on until someone was still alive on the same server they were in.

[hollow compass]

I'm kind of beginning to understand why it's needed also, seeing people say that they just sit around in Eden (past pnr) chatting or doing other things. I wonder if they don't understand that they are possibly causing other people to be stuck in endless death loop?

[gilded talon]

For the chatting part I don’t know. I mean it could be a vet helping out a moth and guiding them too. I don’t think chatting should be banned past pnr. It’s just that the mechanism of game should change, we can’t just blame people for not knowing things

[hollow compass]

It's not the chatting per se, it's the sitting around on a swing/table while in the red rain area, which I understand prevents other players to move on when they become blue lights hovering around these remaining living players.

[tender oasis]

If you never experienced or read bug reports about it you wont know about it unfortunately .

[gilded talon]

I mean if anything is to change it’s the game/dev side of things. Players cannot be asked to change their behaviors because of the death loop or blue light getting stuck which is a bug in the first place

[hollow compass]

Emma, I thought the kill switch was implemented because people either deliberately remain alive or go afk past pnr, preventing other players from dying. Part of it is that the game wants to put as many people as possible in the same instance, I suppose. But if that threshold was lowered, we'd never meet anyone, I fear.

[tender oasis]

I meant the deathloops. I never got it on ipad, and players who never had it and their friends neither might not know they are causing deathloops for others just by sitting there and chatting.

[hollow compass]

Yeah, and that's a problem perhaps TGC should bring up. Or they don't want to, because then people who like being mean would do it on purpose.

I think...I realise now that maybe I'm coming from it as someone who played through many iterations of Storm/Eden, in which the blue light thing was introduced at one point and explained to us. But newer players wouldn't know that this is a thing, and TGC has forgotten not everyone knows that.

[gilded talon]

Blep the trollers could do that also because they take advantage of the death loop, but it doesn’t mean the death loop thing is not a bug

[hollow compass]

True. I always interpreted the death loop as the player being stuck in a server instance with other players who were still alive, but there was no way of knowing since we don't have the radar call and therefore can't see the others...erm, this is so complicated.

[tender oasis]

The latest deathloops (before kills witch) were kinda nice tho since they kept you on the same instance with your friends if you went with them. Before november october sorry my bad i think when they made another eden improvement , loopers often ended up on totally different servers separated from their group.

[gilded talon]

Ngl deathloop and server split in Eden are the most annoying Sky bugs for me. You went into Eden waiting to ascend and reborn with your friends and then ended up being the only person in the instance so lonely. And I can remember me and my friends restarting app over and over in stormlock/dark room just trying to server merge into the same home

[hollow compass]

Yeah, it's always been a lonely experience for me since basically iOS release.

[tender oasis]

Also you are the only one who’s immune to kill switch (or has been) Anyways, I might not like that sometimes if I’m soloing i have to wait a lot to fall, without using any workarounds , but I appreciate that they addressed the problem and made a fix. (Aaand i enjoy the new oob opportunities too, even tho allowing those wasn’t their intention most likely)

[steady briar]

[spark lance]

The dress pants are gone??? 😩

[tender oasis]

It has been removed from the closet a few builds ago because it’s still in development.

[spark lance]

Thank you! I didn't play beta in a long time hehe

[spark lance]

Is there a chance that the switch version will have 60 fps or is the chance way too low

[finite meteor]

we dont know anything about the framerate for switch

[spark lance]

wish they could reveal more details

[oblique stump]

They will eventually, keep an eye out for #news

[hollow compass]

Also, it's not really a beta-related topic.

[spark lance]

trust me i got the hint when i read the channel's name, general is muted so

[finite meteor]

and only the devs know what the switch version will have until they possibly reveal something or until it comes out on switch

[hollow compass]

Not sure what the connection is there. This is still the channel for beta content. (Maybe I don't quite understand?)

[spark lance]

What? Dude read what i just said, i know this is a beta content channel but a simple question off topic wont hurt since the general chat is muted for the meanwhile, i didnt continue the conversation in any way either, have a nice day.

[hollow compass]

Ok, I'm sorry. I was just asking a question, because I didn't understand.

[spark lance]

Oh no dude ur making me feel bad, dont be sorry

[hollow compass]

Yeah, I don't know. I seem to be having a day when everything I say is interpreted as some sort of rude attack. Maybe I'm just being dumb and not understanding human communication today.

[midnight cape]

;-; when is the dress going to be released? And why is the hide n' seek pioneer changed

[prime lintel]

little late here, but if you have non-beta-related questions, #questions-and-help and #cozy-sky-discussion are open

dress release date hasn't been announced yet, afaik
the hide and seek pioneer spirit memory (and spirit itself) have been tweaked a little, probably to reflect the fact that it's wearing the chibi mask and really shouldn't be super tall

[ebon sable]

!ts

[gilded parrot]

The next Traveling Spirit is scheduled to arrive on February 18 at 00:00 Pacific Time (UTC -8:00)
You can read how Traveling Spirits work here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits

[latent palm]

i like how the final quest is exactly 4 minutes

[lucid onyx]

I'm afraid to ask this in the live section of the server because i don't know if it's a beta thing but weren't the boats supposed to be lanterns?- or is it not yet?

[sullen relic]

not yet -- they'll start appearing after days of love is over, although i'm not finding that detail in the preview/release notes for the event right now
edit: apparently, it's mentioned in the last paragraph of the "Days of Fortune Preview" section, but not seeing any image previews of the lantern https://thatskygame.com/news/events-preview-days-of-fortune-and-days-of-love

[limpid crown]

Does the Snow in Village of Dreams suppose to appear after completing the final quest? I noticed that it's still not yet on live

[kindred fossil]

After final, yea

[latent palm]

pog?
and the new soundtrack correct?

[latent palm]

does this happen for anyone else? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701259853649281117/810662415414853652/dreamsglitch.mp4

[lime gazelle]

Conceptually, it could be a cool idea to disable chat in the statue section of Eden. The whole game is an allegory for life, and Eden's supposed to represent old age and death. They represent this by taking away your ability to fly, even taking away your ability to run, and all you have left is stumbling against the wind. Removing communication (until you run out of light) could add to that effect.

[carmine thorn]

I sprint through eden quite a bit, though...

I don't have 60 fps to know if it happens.

[latent palm]

do you get the blur effect?

[carmine thorn]

No, the cutscene was nice and smooth for me.

[ionic bluff]

That does seem like a cool idea, but that could cause some communication problems. What if ur friend needs to tell you there’s a problem? ex: they died too fast, they can’t find you, they might disconnect) eden can be very glitchy and unpredictable, so communication is pretty vital. Especially when your advised to go with friends

[latent palm]

weird. do you play in default or battery saving mode?

[latent palm]

i think it would be a good idea to add an option to disable anonymous chat and calling icons from other players

problem is though i dont know how they would add this option lol

[carmine thorn]

I play high quality mode when not recording or default when recording. Both modes look fine on my phone during the cutscene. I get bad frame stutters when recording in high quality and some blur everywhere, so that's not a good comparison.

[latent palm]

i play on an s10 so all look good while recording. but that happens when not recording as well