beta-discussion

[maiden ingot]

True. I imagine what they’re doing now is truly very early in development. The final product will be interesting. It is a huge change though. Change always makes me a little nervous

[midnight crown]

They did mention that will be implemented near the new season. It's so interesting how they wanna make it a better experience both for new and old players, makes you think how much love they put into sky

[lusty light]

They just said sometime next year, we have no idea how long it will take for them to fine tune this system

Could be months

[devout terrace]

Anyone find the rock in Sanctuary yet?

[gentle merlin]

True. I have some friends who always don't have enough candles for ts stuff etc, because they don’t have the time to cr so this system is cool for them. TGC did a good move for those players, it’s even strange to do this in term of their game economy. Buying candles pack to get those missed candles would be more logic economy wise, so I applaud TGC on that.

[vapid drum]

The size of the wax a candle carries , is it related to the tiers of the candles ??? Because as it looks right now , the wax looks cartoon like ..... hideous ☹️ I loved the old wax , especially the highly detailed seasonal wax from the seasonal candles

[lusty light]

But fat light

[random gull]

i like my chonky lights i spent 20 minutes trying to get pictures of it without collecting it lol

[spark lance]

The chonk makes it feel special.

[gusty dust]

c h o n k y w a x

[vapid drum]

In a place where all is as detailed as it can be .......... then you see the wax , it’s like roblox wax merged with sky. Me don’t like , but that’s a feedback thingy

[lusty light]

I think the seasonal candle light is fat because it’s worth more than usual too

Regular candle light doesn’t have the same details as seasonal candles so I don’t care that it’s fat it just looks funny and you’re like

Nom

[vapid drum]

That was my question 😊 is it because the wax value is bigger , then so is the wax. I kinda skipped yesterday play since it’s a busy period for me. I will give it a few days of game play

[kindred fossil]

looks like tatter tots

[rapid stirrup]

i like the chonk wax, tbh. makes it easy to see so i know if i need to go back for it when i crash myself into a wall on the way down the the valley rink

[vapid drum]

Lol , im Gonna Google that dark

[lusty light]

Yeah as your chevron goes down the light shrinks, the seasonal candles are worth more all the time in beta so they’re always big

[vapid drum]

Hahahaha , they are potato croquettes dark 😂 I see the resemblance, kinda makes hungry

[severe ruin]

anyone did a beta full run? We did it today and got less than 17 candles lol

[spark lance]

Now im hungry for potato croquettes and i got some in the freezer. Nice midnight snack nom nom

[zenith wasp]

I really like the big candle wax for some reason

[tough oracle]

It’s at the social area of valley

[random gull]

it’s open in beta. if you mean live then no the only way to get there is hacking or teleporting to someone already there (which sourced from hacking anyways) so it’s highly discouraged to try to get in

[tough oracle]

This is beta chat. In live it’s not out yet, and you’ll have to wait until the season starts

[plucky glade]

CHONKY WAX AJSKSBSJSJS

[velvet atlas]

I heard people are being reported for warping to a friend that happened to be in the new area. Friend of a friend of a friend was the code hacker I'm assuming.

Can the unsuspecting player that simply warped be reported?

My group of friends were threatened by a beta player for even suggesting warping to a friend

[random gull]

anyone can be reported whether they did something wrong or not. a report doesn’t mean you’re auto-banned from the game though

[gloomy linden]

@velvet atlas nope

I do not think thaz should be allowed bc that would be 20% of the daily players

[finite meteor]

only report if they got into the village in live, its impossible right now unless hacking

[gloomy linden]

I could swear it is possible by oob

[finite meteor]

no

[random gull]

no not possible by OOB. even if you manage to make it past the multiple barriers, you end up in an empty hallway because the warp point isn’t active

[gloomy linden]

Gud to hear

[prime lintel]

even in beta you couldn't get into village by oobing. a few people got in due to a bug, but that was about the only "legitimate" way in at the time

[gilded talon]

I accidentally found out today that my chevrons set back to 3-chevron once it’s past midnight my time
I thought it was per reset

[trim spade]

Oh I tried to oob in beta for a while when it was closed off before. Without success

[trim spade]

Reset time would be the most logical time. But does the candle wax reset too? If it doesn’t then there’s no benefit to that

[low kindle]

so...to the ones who farmed today...how was the new system? same amount of candles? time? tell me EVERYTHING

[gilded talon]

No wax doesn’t reset just the chevrons. But imagine if you do half your candle farm before midnight and half your candle farm past midnight wouldn’t your 3-chevron time lasts longer than the devs intended?

[random gull]

yes but does the chevron reset at midnight pacific too that way? because otherwise it makes no difference when you do candle run

[young zinc]

Is anybody still having trouble with the bear hug spirit? I’ve been running that spirit nearly every day since he became available and it keeps resetting right before I finish it.

[random gull]

I got bear hug on the first day I tried with no resets guess I got lucky

[young zinc]

I’ve ran it multiple times within the day, and still no result, so I’m not sure what else to do. I report it for every build that hasn’t fixed it, but I don’t want to seem like I’m spamming.

[heady kelp]

Days of Christmas... when release

[tiny umbra]

Bear hug is easier with a group to keep the server from merging yea

[storm vessel]

21st in live

[young zinc]

I’ve done it a few times with groups as well, but I get the same result.

[gilded talon]

Oh I see what you mean now, I’ll check again when the wax resets for me. The new system is a bit complicated for my lil brain 🤯 thx Kai

[storm vessel]

Now the stance you have to get in wasteland today reset as well

Took him back to the finish and he suddenly warp back to the start

[tender oasis]

So if chevron reset should be the same as normal reset the it's super weird if my chevron reseted when i logged back on to do dailys now and i was online 8 h ago when i did half forest vault and valley.:pFIRE: not like i mind but guess this is not intentional. I clearly remember finishing valley with 2 and now i started with 3.

[tiny umbra]

Yeah the spirits are acting odd for me today as well, the spirit didn’t show up for the quest until the very end, I just knew the path well enough that I could follow the sparkles without anything actually showing up thou

[wooden raptor]

I logged out of game a few hours ago with no chevron left. now it’s past midnight for me and I just checked and saw that I have 3 chevrons again

[gilded talon]

My chevron reset at midnight my time, not the same time as wax reset

[lusty light]

Sounds like a bug 😳

It’s supposed to be normal reset time

[vast bay]

Ktjn

It replenishes with the daily reset

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Sent in #beta-general-discussion | Quote requested by Seraph#2000 | 789000930187280434 · Dec 17, 2020, 5:28 AM

[tender oasis]

I will check if it happens again before normal reset again. I left out prairie for this reason .

[stark sundial]

maybe is resetting with your device time careful with the missions tho if your try to change the hour

[primal helm]

hello, beta users.
I'm sorry if I mistake on the channel.
Can you tell me the name of new map?

[random gull]

there’s two: hermit valley and village of dreams

[lapis ore]

i still prefer yeti slope

[primal helm]

Oh, two maps?

[tiny umbra]

If the stadium counts as a new map, three

[random gull]

the stadium kinda already existed for the ends of the valley races tho. they just added another entrance to it

[primal helm]

ohhhhh

[tiny umbra]

It changed completely

[lapis ore]

Yeah the door on the right with the chipped snow thing is where the entrance is, other seems to be for show

[primal helm]

Are you referring to the two new doors in the stadium?

[tiny umbra]

Shhh spoiler territory

[knotty siren]

Question, so at the end did tgc implemented the need to have the adventure pass for the next ts?

[lapis ore]

Oop ok

[tiny umbra]

Basically the new makeover for the stadium wasn’t just for fun 👁️👁️

[soft fjord]

Hello all. Where do we go to access “yeti’s bedroom”?

[lapis ore]

That's on the yeti slope hermit valley, just head up from where the lift drops you

[stoic crow]

~~i’ve seen complaints about not liking the redesign so i’m excited for dreams to hit live ~~

[tiny umbra]

That’s meeee I don’t like the redesign cause it’s exhausting but ||it’s perfect for the story||

[soft fjord]

Ohhh the bed is gone, i never got to see it

[finite meteor]

just use the hole in the valley social, simpl

[lapis ore]

Gone? Last I checked it's still there just it has the proper texture now so it's not hot pink and consuming skids

[tiny umbra]

THE BED IS GONE ???

[primal helm]

Oh, I just wanted to know the name of the new map to make my character's Sky introduction. I'm sorry if I felt like I induced a spoiler!

[soft fjord]

Oh maybe i just didnt see it, my bad

[tiny umbra]

Aa ! The Village of Dreams then, but Hermit Valley is its neighbor

[finite meteor]

you're in a spoiler heaven zone but yeah village is gonna b perfect for a sky introduction when it comes to live

[tiny umbra]

Try not to get spoiled for the quests you’re gonna wanna see those for yourself

[primal helm]

oh! thank u so much guys! have a good day.

[primal helm]

I just wanted to know the name of the new map.
I don't like spoilers.
Thank you for your concern!

[willow flare]

Instructions to Hermit's House
(Uncover the contents based on reader's needs)

||1. Complete the first 2 memories from the Guide spirit and start the 3rd memory (there are 5 memories in total)||

||2. Ride the cable car which travels up to the top of the lower ski track, and interchange to the second cable car route which takes you to the Hermit Valley (You can only access the Hermit Valley cable car once you have completed the first 2 memories)||

||3. The app will teleport you to the cable car station at the upper part of Hermit Valley, and you need to follow the steps, walk up the hill and you will be able to see a stone cave structure, which is the Hermit's house||

||The girl for the 3rd memory kneels outside the house||

[whole helm]

I love the name Hermit Valley, but prefer Bearhug Yeti instead of Bearhug Hermit

[tiny umbra]

They’ll always be the yeti of our heart

[spark lance]

So the new update doesn't change the total amount of candles you can forge each day? I won't be affected since I farm all realm lol

can we talk about remove boat that near any special spot like big tree, shrine, and leak

[little hound]

Haven’t checked village in 2 days. How is the Gondola Freeze?
Nvm. I’ll go see now.

[gilded talon]

Still freezing me so I bug reported it

[lusty fiber]

@young zinc try bringing the light first to the other characters of the relive before going to the yeti, i relieved it smoothly many times this way.

[willow flare]

The total number of candles that can be forged daily depends on the total available waxes across all realms on that day, so if the system puts more waxes across the realms on that day, more candles may be forged

The Law of Conservation of Wax-candles applies: If the total number of waxes across all realms stays the same, then the number of candles that can be forged daily will stay the same

What varies is the wax to candle ratio

If I get more candles at the start with less waxes, then I will get less candles with more waxes at the end

For people who do full CRs then I'd imagine like having desserts first and then eating some bitter melons later on

[sturdy hazel]

That makes sense in a way...but the specifics are still fuzzy to me. I could have sworn my blue chevron went down to the next level, and the next time I logged on it was back at blue, the maximum amount of candles for wax

[willow flare]

The acceleration state should reset daily at midnight UTC-7

[sturdy hazel]

I wasn't playing around reset, so it's either a bug or I wasn't paying much attention. Probably the latter, tbh.
right now I just want some stone cold facts about how many candles you can get in what amount of time compared to the "normal" rate of forging, which will require some experimentation and such on my end

[hollow jay]

Guys Does the valley race consume the new candle meter?

[willow flare]

Each race gives 150 waxes

[hollow jay]

🤔 yeah but will the chevron meter drop after the race? I got people telling me the races do not drain the meter

[lapis ore]

If you got enough wax to forge a candle, it will drop the meter, or at least that’s what I saw the first time I tried out the system

[desert token]

it does drain it, but you might not notice if you don't actually go down a whole chrevron for it

it's a bug that unfortunately seems to be persisting even through an applied fix. iirc it happens when you merge into another server where the spirit is also activated please report it (oh, deleted message?)

[neat river]

Oh sorry a group of strangers came and it worked as we did it together so I deleted my message

[spark lance]

I started Cr in beta with Chevron tier 1 (indicated by 3 arrows).
After 3rd /4th tier (indicated by one arrow) , the candle meter returned to 1st tier again (with 3 arrows) and started forging candles at faster rate again.
Is this a bug or normal?

[hollow jay]

That must be a bug? My meter does not return

[unborn sparrow]

oop hello

[willow flare]

I know the current new system has the acceleration chevrons state reset at midnight UTC-7

The pros for this system is clear: people who only have short amount of time will be able to forge more candles they need

However, the cons is that people who have a bit more time (like having multiple breaks per day) will continue to get less candles as the day progresses

I mean the character can get tired, which makes biological sense, but if we humans take rests in a day our performance will recover partially

I know the system is trying to discourage us to do full CRs, and make us try other methods to get waxes

What if the chevrons does increase a bit if the character takes enough rest within a day, given that the time between each CR is at least 4 to 5 hours?

For example, if people pause their 1st CR at 1 chevron then when they do the 2nd CR a few hours later the chevron raises back to 2-chevron state, but will return to 1-chevron state faster than their 1st CR? (Same for pausing at 2-chevron state and start again at 3-chevron state a few hours later but return to 2-chevron state faster)

I think the pros for my suggestion would be encouraging people to go to more places for CRs, rather than staying at Prairie and Forest if they have slightly more time later in their day

I'm willing to explain more about my concept if needed :sweat_smile:

[spark lance]

Wow, fair concept! Have you submitted it to the beta feedback?

[willow flare]

Not yet, I just came up with this concept as I saw people having bugs which reset to 3-chevron state after full depletion of chevrons at unexpected times

[random coral]

Actually it’s supposed to reset at reset time so it shouldn’t stay at midnight (it’s bugged right now)

[spark lance]

Aah I see

[slim kayak]

everything is bugged in beta, nothing new there

[willow flare]

Current reset time (returning to 3 chevrons) is midnight UTC-7

[random coral]

Yes I meant for other players it’s not midnight because for other people it has reset at midnight rather than their timezones reset time

[willow flare]

What my concept was trying to convey is that the chevrons should raise back a bit if they pause their CR for enough time, representing the character having some rests during the day

[random coral]

Yes I know and I like that concept, better put it in #beta-feedback as well

[steady pond]

how does the game calculate you "pausing" your CR though, going by your idea? it seems really tough to code something like this in

[onyx summit]

Sorry for sudden question, is there some kind of bug or network lag that made someone looks like buying item from shop so many times continuously?

[steady pond]

more likely hax than bug so better to report

[willow flare]

Can be calculated by when does your character collected its last piece of wax in their 1st candle run and 1st piece of wax in the 2nd CR

[spark lance]

Or maybe there could be a specific “rest mode” where you have your skykid sleep before you log off! Hahah

[willow flare]

It's the idle time that matters

[late mountain]

I like the brainstorming for ideas but I feel like this would be a bad move. Some people would start to be on sky 24/7 just to run a single realm then rest then run again so they get like 40 candles a day

[willow flare]

I hope you guys can help me refine my concept before I post to the suggestions channel

[timid basalt]

i was thinking that the resting idea (while it is a neat idea) would affect the overall candle count per day

[desert token]

I don't like having a cooldown where the amount of chevrons can increase again because it would enforce a brake on players who want to earn as many candles as possible. this change aims to make up for not having much time to spend on candle running, but rewarding players for coming back after a certain time interval also mandates that we have time to spend at multiple points in the day. in the end your own feedback is most valuable given to the devs unfiltered though - every opinion matters. that's why the feedback channels are hidden in the first place

[willow flare]

It won't happen because the Law of Conservation of Wax-candles applies

If there is a fix total amount of waxes across all realms, then the number of candles that can be forged daily will stay the same (still roughly 15 to 18 based on counts from various players)

[late mountain]

I like where this current system is going but am also acutely aware that if they intend to implement this and not change the candle curve with realm updates and events then we'll be getting a candle cap of 18-19 candles max for the next year or so. This would be because the new wax added in from seasons and events would be worth so little in that final no chevron tier.

[willow flare]

Most players do have the aim of maximising the number of candles that can be forged when playing this game

What matters is that we have to strike a balance between discouraging people from doing full CRs and getting people to explore more realms

[late mountain]

If the chevrons can raise up then the worth of wax can raise up too. You could have someone do a complete run vs someone who does a run on full 3 tier chevrons the whole time because they rest whenever it gets lower. Both used all the wax in the reams but one got many more candles for it over the long period of time with your idea, no?

Have I understood something incorrectly?

[ionic spire]

hhwha the new wax system is so confusing

[steady pond]

ah, but therein lies... how does the game know your 2nd CR begins? by realm? sometimes i get sick of prairie and quit halfway to run forest, how does that count then?

[shadow mason]

I know I’m a bit late, but it would work like the spell cool down, except it would go while your afk :))

[steady pond]

i was thinking something similar actually... the game calculating the time you did not collect any wax as "rest time", then the moment you collect any piece of wax, it resumes..

[timid basalt]

oh right what if the chevrons were just spells instead of a permanent thing? probs can still be a bad move tho

[shadow mason]

I’d actually prefer that haha- I don’t like things being handed to me so easily

[hollow cloak]

But then you're basically implementing a stamina system, where you gain very little wax until your stamina meter recharges. Then they could ditch the whole resetting thing and make stamina recharge potions and...
Nah. :blbsweat:

[chrome osprey]

You know what, Eden is Dumb; I say we raid eden, Pillage the Crystal's, and use the crabs as our attendees

[lapis ore]

Hmm but wouldn’t that theoretically increase the amount of wax someone taking breaks could get per day rather than someone doing a full cr all at once like Harbin said? Or what if you give up on your cr to join a friend and the friend is doing a cr in a different realm?

It’s a fun concept, but idk how that would work It might also make Sky feel like those games where you have to spend credits to play like candy crush or something lol

[late mountain]

I feel like this could become frustrating though if you're trying to rest and someone lights a candle near you at home or another place. Also could possibly result in isolation if your friends are ready to run but you need to rest for recharging.

[steady pond]

oh yeah for sure, im just piggybacking off pl's idea i actually think the current one works fine but new ideas could be interesting to think about tbh

[willow flare]

The idle time between the time when last piece of wax collected during the 1st CR and the time you collect the 1st piece of wax in your 2nd CR

This does not change the total number of waxes you can collect in a day, so based on the Law of Conservation of Wax-candles you still get the same amount of candles if you do collect all waxes in all realms in a day

[desert token]

I think the new system moreso feels unfamiliar than it discourages full candle runs. personally I hardly look at my candle meter in live, while I'm now constantly monitoring it in beta since I'm testing out the change. the only discouraging thing (in my opinion) would be if your candle total actually did end up being less - which we've been told it's not supposed to. if that happens, do report it. as for having the chevrons be spells - that wouldn't actually change anything about how we play the game and the stress around candle running people would just hoard the spells and then feel forced to only run while using one

[steady pond]

yeah i thought of that too, like, what if you just want to hang out in an OOB area with your friends and you accidentally collect wax on the way there and the system restarts? its a fun idea to think of but not very practical... 😔

[fluid quail]

dam why is everyone righting an essays, my readin suc 🙉

[hollow cloak]

Basically... I definitely don't need another game that gates progression behind a stamina system. I love that you can play Sky anytime

[chrome osprey]

After repeated Candle Runs and Unfinished Seasons I have amassed a vault of needless candles. I wish I could exchange them for hearts

[late mountain]

@willow flare Can you please further explain this law you have created for your idea 'Law of Conservation of Wax-candles' as I do not fully understand or the law is flawed.

[steady pond]

gen chat: normal chaotic talk abt new season

beta chat: casually invents new theory in sciences

[desert token]

wouldn't the boost you get need to decline even more rapidly on your second candle run to compensate for you already having earned so much wax then? it would be an infinite loop where you still end up getting very little reward on your candle meter doing your last area

[willow flare]

Not exactly

The reset to 3-chevron state at midnight UTC-7 still maintained in my suggestion, because this is what attracts people to do regular CRs

Stamina is true, but it should not be recovered using portions, because our character doesn't eat and drink so it relies on the daily reset to recover its stamina to its fullest state

[hollow cloak]

But then that pushes players to be active on the game continually throughout the day, in order to maximize gains from chevron recovery (similar to making sure your stamina doesn't cap in a stamina system).
And that's the opposite of what TGC wants; this is supposed to be less stressful and require less time investment.

The possibility of "missing out" on candles just because you haven't been on Sky for a few hours would only increase stress and the amount of time people spend online :blbsweat:

[willow flare]

I said the Law of Conservation of Wax-candles with the definition of:

If the total number of waxes across all realms stay the same, then the number of candles that can be forged daily shall stay the same

This can be used to explain why even though we now have the new system the number of candles that can be forged daily is still the same (roughly 18)

[timid basalt]

when i read the idea, the first thing i thought was going to vault to maximize the wax there in 3 chevron > take break > valley > break > etc

the total candle per day would be affected by this and i guess thats whats confusing me

[late mountain]

Please see here: #beta-discussion message

Edit: for anyone reading at a later date and hasn't seen the above conversation this is about an idea where chevron stamina can rise up over the day if you take a break. Not just resetting once a day.

[desert token]

the "Law of Conservation of Wax-candles"™️ only works now because we're compensating for increasing the value of the first wax orbs by decreasing the value of the later ones. if you wanted to bring up the boost after a rest it would have to decrease even faster once you started running again, no?

[rapid reef]

How about.. On your first log-in/when reset happen, you get prompted on if you want to toggle the new wax system or not? That way, people that are busy can click yes and get candles faster and other can just click no and nothing will change. Each reset, the options get reset as well so you're not stuck with it toggled on or off for-ever. Just for the entire "day"?

[hollow cloak]

It feels like we're going in circles here

[willow flare]

The worth changes based on time and stamina of the character

However, since I have stated the *law of conservation of wax-candles" even if anyone tries to do full CRs in one go or divided into multiple times a day, they will still get the closest number to the number of candles that can be forged daily (roughly 18)

[tranquil ether]

Ahhhh this candle wax stuff is driving me insane!!!! Y’all are so confusing...

[willow flare]

Well I think it's better to develop some frameworks such that new suggestions will have something to base on

[late mountain]

Sorry mate but you keep bringing up this law and I've already said how it appears flawed to me. I could be misinterpreting it but for now we're going in circles so imma stop asking. Please feel free to send your feedback in #beta-feedback but as for myself I like the way the system already is

[dense folio]

what is a new amazing thing in beta this person in general sky discussion is talking about

[tranquil ether]

Hmm I’ll think about it then... even though it makes my head hurt

[lapis ore]

I have like mixed contradicting feelings about the new system tbh. On one hand I like it because I gain a bunch of candles quickly in a short amount of time, but I tend also feel like I messed up in my order of cr and get demotivated to continue playing afterwards. I don’t have many friends in beta, but I feel like I would be less incentivized to join friends during cr and to do a full cr

[spark lance]

it was nothing, someone else made a beta spoiler in general

[dense folio]

Alright im out its too confusiony rn

[timid basalt]

the new system has me going for candle cakes to avoid going to gw

[drifting eagle]

what's the best order so far to cr the realms in?
does the new system even change which order we should go in...

[lofty olive]

Yeah seems like more people will skip burning the big plants with the new system

[vapid stag]

why would it mean that? :<

[hollow cloak]

I'm trying to think about this in terms of filler numbers, and I feel like... This would be a pain to code and also would a very random system.

To simplify candle collection rates at the beginning vs. the end, if it all equals 18 in total
Live is like 9 + 9.
Beta is like 10 + 8.
What you're proposing, with a refreshing rate, is like.
4+3+4+3+4
:o_o: I don't like that.

[timid basalt]

if players want the max candle per day, there will still be players who'll burn the bug plants i guess
but max candles per day is buggy right now i think?

[lofty olive]

Maybe make the things that require cooperation give fixed wax instead, while keeping the total candles farmed per day the same?

[steady pond]

yeah as someone whos seen how dumb the code can get to implement something like bingo quests in a gacha game, i keep thinking of how difficult itd be to code something this complex in lolol

[desert token]

honestly, I think the new system is doing it's job in shocking us out of the mindset of having full candle runs be the main focus of the game. since the traveling spirit system was introduced candle runs have become necessity – an ingrained part of the daily life. I hope we can learn to do full candle runs just because we want to and find them fun

[lofty olive]

I remember seeing white candle lights in the past, different from the normal orange version. So it seems they can do it

[vapid stag]

wait are you assuming that people at the end of their candle run (when its .5 return) won't burn the plants? Or that people just won't do it because they could continue burning candles instead

[hollow cloak]

I do wish that the areas behind the multiplayer doors gave more wax.
Then people might do Vault together and help with doors :pensive:

[steady pond]

as the saying goes, "things are fun when youre not obligated to do them", and we're obligated to do full CRs because of the TS system introduced, so i have hopes that this new CR system will change that

[worthy gate]

It's the least time efficient things that will get skipped. I don't think that big plants in general but may well include the entire garveyard area. The way round this, imo, is to have much stronger daily themes, so the most efficient way to get wax is different every day. I've put in a suggestion with 16 of them. To show they don't need to repeat very often.

[lofty olive]

Yup thats it, people are more likely to skip the big plants if they only give marginal wax. Doesn't have to be towards the end of the run if they intend to run most of the realms

It could take a long time to get matched with someone who knows how to burn it

[hollow cloak]

But the wax is what makes burning those plants worthwhile in the first place...

[lofty olive]

Imagine you do a full cr and get 18 candles, if you skip the plants, you get say 17.75 candles... Depending on how much it diminishes, it might not be efficient to burn them anymore

[lapis ore]

Oh wait what I just realized that my boost went back to 3 chevrons, could've sworn it was at 2 chevrons after running wasteland

[steady pond]

to be honest.... ill probably still do full CRs regardless because monkey brain go "ooo shiny" and i go collect them even if it amounts to 0.01 of a candle lmao 😭😭😭

the huge candle stack at the end of colosseum races?? in the temple?? is SO satisfying to collect i get a little rush everytime lol

[vapid stag]

That makes sense to me! Though I wonder how many people actually burn the wasteland plant regularly, I skip it if its not pre-burnt, but idk what is most typical. It may not change much if most people already dont burn it? TGC would have better insight than any of us would, but its an interesting concern

[lofty olive]

I usually stay until it pops or someone comes along and burn it together. It's fun ^^

[vapid stag]

It is fun! I just mostly run solo and don't have any patience 🤣

[steady pond]

i can confidently say TGC doesnt have insight as to who burns what plants because thats what we're volunteering to be 😎 we're TGCs eyes to insight on player opinions, habits, etc which. hell yeah

[willow flare]

Thank you for helping me refine my concept

I know it's somewhat difficult for some of us to understand the "theory" I have been trying to develop, which explains why you still get the same amount of candles if you do a full CRs under the new system, and I shall apologise for any confusions caused

With my new concept I hope to see some modifications to the new system of candle forging such that people will not only do CRs in Prairie and Forest

When the character have maximum stamina the player can run Prairie and Forest, but after some rests they are partially recovered and can try to run at different realms, but there will not be enough stamina for the character to get all waxes from all realms at the end

With only one peak stamina in a day, people will only go to Prairie and Forest because these 2 realms have the most amount of waxes

With multiple peaks in stamina of the character then the player will have incentive to go to probably 1 or 2 more realms in a day, but will never be fully recovered until the daily reset time at midnight UTC-7

It's possible for us to end up in a circle during the development of a new concept and theory, and so do the devs at TGC. If we can give them a refined concept we may be able to save them some time as the direction clears up.

Thank you once again for giving feedback on my suggestion and I am really appreciated

[steady pond]

if im honest i dont agree with the theory youre proposing but i really enjoy that youre serious about thinking of new ways to help out, which i think is a pretty damn good attitude to have for beta testers, so cheers to that pl !

[lofty olive]

Valley gives the most for the amount of time spent though. 3.75 in 15-20 mins without glitches

[late mountain]

I still don't follow, but to be clear the chevron system is dependant on wax collected, not realms visited. No order of realms is necessary, the only difference is which realms are the most wax dense and therefore quicker to collect wax in.

[lapis ore]

Ok I know for a fact that I was on earlier because I got the dailies, but I just got enough to forge a candle and my chevrons had completely reset. Should I report that?

[muted canopy]

i was able to get 3.33 in forest in 10 minutes today...

[lofty olive]

Only if the plants are already popped 😉

[jade sundial]

Yeah, forest depends a lot on luck (i.e. server merge), while valley is very consistent. If I just have 15 minutes to play I will CR valley 🙂

[muted canopy]

nope. i popped over half of them. including the tree above the quest spirit for the day

[lofty olive]

Did you include treasure candles?

[willow flare]

Yes, the current new system of chevrons decrease depends on the number of waxes collected

So my modification is to introduce some mechanisms of stamina such that if the character takes enough rests during the day, then as the next CR starts in the same day the chevrons will increase by a bit only, but is an important incentive for people to visit more realms (for wax collection) rather than just the two realms with the densest amount of waxes

If people only visit Prairie and Forest and not other realms then there's no point to maintain such a big map in the game

[muted canopy]

treasure candles were in vault

[lofty olive]

Hmm 10 mins seems really quick. For valley, I said 15 mins but it takes me 12 mins without glitches. Seems too fast tbh

[muted canopy]

i timed it to compare to live to see what i would get out of both. i didn’t make it to temple, though

[wispy zinc]

this new candle system is still confusing to me

[lofty olive]

I've played since gratitude and I don't think I can collect everything in 10 mins in forest if most plants are still up

[late mountain]

I don't understand your system but you're saying that if someone took breaks and did all the reams and someone else did not take breaks and did all the realms then they would get the same candle amount?

If so then why would it be beneficial to take a break compared to just run them all if you have the time?

[muted canopy]

if most plants- no. but if half plants or less are whole, then yes.

[sand dawn]

Even preburned forest takes like 15 min

[lofty olive]

Think you have to make it to temple to get 3.3 since the big plants are there. Forest only gave 3.4 way back when I recorded it before cavern came out

Hmm the new system could have played a role here

[muted canopy]

i’m not trying to be contrarian, and you don’t have to believe me. i didn’t go to the cavern. i’m saying that i was able to get 3.3 with three chevrons today in 10 minutes. comparing to live, where i was only able to get 2.5 without burning the big plant in temple in the same amount of time.

[lofty olive]

Yeah I understand, just trying to figure things out and see if I could've optimized my run more. Could've been the new system giving more candles at the start of the day

[muted canopy]

Could've been the new system giving more candles at the start of the day
That’s what i’m trying to figure out. if i’m going to rethink my cr strategy, i want to know where the biggest bang for my buck is. and forest has always been my favorite, so i tested there, first. i plan to test all of the realms in the same way.

[willow flare]

1 . To discourage one-go full CRs but still getting people to go to other realms to get waxes for candles

If the characters don't have stamina in the rest of the day they will stop visiting other realms

2. If a player has one break only in a day then current new system benefits them (as they will only run in Prairie and Forest)

If a player has multiple breaks in a day then it will discourage them from going to other realms to collect waxes due to low stamina of the character

3. Allowing the characters to have stamina similar to humans and other biological creatures, in which if you take some rests during the day your stamina will be partially recovered

[muted canopy]

it’s the same concept as the “recharge” of flying power. i like it

[lofty olive]

You'd get more in valley with slightly more time spent, since it requires us to complete the races there is a minimum time required for valley for it to be efficient. If you only have say 8 mins, valley may not be as good (maybe one race and something from other realms)

[muted canopy]

i’m actually pretty happy with the new village, because i can skip the race and go straight to the temple (not a huge fan of the races. it’s tedious to me)

[late mountain]

you mean they will be prevented from going to other realms if they have low stamina?

[willow flare]

But my suggestion of stamina is a property of a character which cannot be fully recharged until the daily reset time at midnight UTC-7

Wing power, however, can he recharged fully by any current means

[willow flare]

Yes, as players want to see more candles being forged during CRs

This is a matter of the wax to candle ratio, which explains any acceleration to the candle forging process

If you want to get more candles later in the day, and you find out your character is having a low stamina which will make you forge less candles with more waxes for the rest of the day, you won't have the incentive to do a bit more CRs until next daily reset

No matter what modifications are to be made to the candle forging system, it will have no effect for people who wants to do full CRs at any cost of time or stamina of the character, as they will still get a maximum of around 18 candles daily

[late mountain]

I think I'm starting to get it but I still prefer the current system. Just be sure to send in feedback so its considered

[late tulip]

is it possible to get the ult. gift as of now?

it is possible? Alright thank you

[willow flare]

Really happy to see you starting to understand my idea :smile:

I will put a refined concept based on all of your suggestions and opinions later on in the suggestion channel

Thanks everyone again and if any queries still persists or have any more suggestions to my idea feel free to @ me and raise them here :SkyBow:

[rain delta]

If this is just part 1 of the Cr system ... I wonder what changes the upcoming systems will bring :O

[willow flare]

I'm just trying to suggest some modifications to the new system and post the new suggestion to the appropriate channel after getting everyone's opinion

[fickle spade]

Is anyone having trouble collecting seasonal candle wax?

[drowsy nexus]

OK I am currently farming forest, and my chevron is at the second tier, after I enter the Hidden Area of Forest, the game says "Daily light replenished" and I got 3 chevrons again,
I believe it's 3 hours earlier than candle reset

[stark sundial]

what's the time in your device?

[hollow cloak]

People have been reporting that their light refreshes at midnight their time, so EST people should be refreshing now (since it's 3 hours ahead of PST... I think)

[willow flare]

The details to the new system is still unknown, so most of us can only guess based on existing known data and processes

Specific and exact data (like the wax to candle ratio at different stamina states) would probably be known by the devs of TGC only

[late mountain]

Oh, I wonder if that's intended, I was hoping it would reset with the daily candle reset. Guess we'll find out more as the system develops.

[desert mango]

Goodmorning Peepz... The system resets at reset for everyone ... 🤍

[fleet sorrel]

I finished the season and thought I got everything. But there are still two capes that say limited availability. Are those not part of the season?

[timid basalt]

probably santa cape & earth day cape?

[fickle spade]

I was wondering why my chevron was at full again when it was at 2 chevrons

[fleet sorrel]

The icon is just a plus symbol, I can’t tell what capes they’re supposed to be.

[fickle spade]

Those are in live too. I think those are limited time capes cause I also saw them in live

[desert mango]

two of the level two capes maybe ? Black and white ?

At two chevrons the circle ⭕️ thing /bank is full again and when it depletes you will be a 1 chevron ... is this what you mean ??

[fickle spade]

He means that he had 2 chevrons as in 2 arrows then it reset back to max 3 chevrons

[desert mango]

That’s not right then... need to report that ...be nice if you could catch a video of it

[fleet sorrel]

I must already have them in live, because there are no pluses that I see in the wardrobe.

[fickle spade]

People think the reset is tied to your timezone though.

[potent heron]

Strange thing just happened at the ice rink today. A ts spirit trap except it actually gave me the emote. If someone can peek at my screenshot in #beta-screenshots-videos to tell me the spirit name that would be helpful!

[desert mango]

Reset happens around the world at the same time ...if it’s 8am for me it may be 12 pm for a different country .... I don’t know timezones ..but that’s how it works

[pale junco]

Ahh all the sprits that have memory collection are glitching. Like the confetti one and the crab dance
My friend got the crab dance

[potent heron]

Also the spirit that you have to fly up and get at ice rink. The twirl i think its called. No screenie but he was active too.

[boreal heart]

why is the yeti area a hermit area now? that makes no sense, plus yeti was cuter and better.

[radiant drum]

@oblique plinth the only way to access the new are in the live version is through hacking, or warping to someone that has hacked the game. That is against the Terms of Service and not allowed, so please refrain from doing so and advise your friend to do the same. You may want to report them to TGC as well if they are deliberately inviting players there, as that could cause problems to everyone

[limber tusk]

[oblique plinth]

Idk where to start my friend keep saying its just a bug and it wont get us banned and trying to look for the other spirits idk where to report or even how or what to sayyywj

[limber tusk]

your friend is most likely hacking, then :/

[radiant drum]

!reportplayer you can start by following the instructions here, and I would recommend blocking them as well

[gilded parrot]

Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ

[oblique plinth]

Thank u i dont think they are hackers but i just know they are trying to live the spirits and get the emotes

[limber tusk]

they are. or they’re taking advantage of someone else hacking, either way, stay out of the area and report them

[sonic talon]

Can anyone tell me where the new season area is? I know it’s in Valley but I’m confused as to where it exactly is.

[limber tusk]

at the very start of valley, before ice rink. social area, look to the right

[sonic talon]

Tysm!

[hollow compass]

Are you new in beta? Or are you just trying to access it in Live? If the latter, please wait until it opens on the 4th.

[sonic talon]

Wh-what- No I’ve been in beta before and I’m not trying to access it in Live. I was just wondering where it was so I could test it :/ I must’ve missed it, I remember flying right over the social area when I went to Valley.

[hollow compass]

Ok, fair enough. There's just been a few people asking from Live here, so I was being extra cautious. How come you only started testing now, btw?
Also, miki, we've been asked not to share directions and maps, as the first hand experience of a player is more important to TGC. If it's difficult to find something, that is good feedback for them.

[sonic talon]

I started testing a few days ago, I’ve been busy and sometimes I just don’t have the motivation. I made it to Valley last night

[hollow compass]

I see. You will need a spirit from Wasteland to be able to access the new area, so it's probably a good idea to finish all realms first. 🙂

[rain delta]

I wonder if the new ts system is basically completed now... not sure what changed in those prices they gave out last week

[soft loom]

home glitch didnt work in beta

[kindred fossil]

from the emote menu? cog menu no longer works

[soft loom]

oh, guess i missed the memo i used cog menu

[bold igloo]

i’ve just sent a bug report Leaping Dancer is back

[kindred fossil]

i think it's happening with any spirits from previous seasons, someone from live managed to relive thrillseeker in sanctuary

[steady pond]

seems like the spirits are retaliating against the fix lol

[kindred fossil]

"who's the next TS, TGC?"
"yes"

[hollow compass]

They all want to be part of the Feast! 🎉

[north girder]

._. ok i just saw the chevron meter drop after completing the sliding race... so it does affect the forge rate.

[opaque yew]

That’s why we getting less candles

[craggy karma]

Races technically give you 150 waxes, not one full candle though

[north girder]

i got a candle tho hmm i'll do it again after reset just to be sure

[craggy karma]

Well yeah
150 waxes = 1 candle in the old system

[spark lance]

I relieved 2 ts somehow both in valley

[royal elm]

after the ghost spirit bug got patched instead of the spirits disappearing after a bit the circle is now permanent I've had play fight follow me from her spot all the way to the exit boat

[gusty dust]

They start fliclering around u like an ever living ghost seperating you and.your friends from.holding anything but the soul of.the now.forgotten ts

[royal elm]

play fight hasn't even been a ts yet she's been like this since enchantment ended

[spark lance]

I didn’t even know that a carry quest spirit was in bird nest but somehow I got it attach to me all the time

[spark lance]

That reminds me when it attached to me i always try to find another player and let the thingy cling onto them, and it made them freak out

[coarse cape]

Huh weird, I can't relieve any previous spirit

[coarse cape]

I remember dicovering that bug for the first time, she followed my friend all the way back to the return boat 😂

[bitter lake]

So, I heard there's random TS coming back in Live at random times. Does that thing have anything bonded to hackers? Just then I saw crab dance emote spirit and my friend got that emote on live. Heard it happens on Beta at first

[coarse cape]

I haven't seen any rogue spirit in live nor beta yet, besides the usual (Miss Playfight and Sunbather)
I think it's more tied to the recent update.

[bitter lake]

Ahh :0

[oblique mica]

Good morning beta family how you all feel?

[sly pecan]

Finally completed the season

[spark lance]

Goodmorning. Nice to see someone who is also in morning time. Im great. How are u?

[devout inlet]

Soo this idea has been playing in my mind for some time. Just imagine a valley race style quest that combines the paths of the the memory quests in hermit valley and the one at the top of the ice slope at the village. Starting from hermit valley, maybe we could have a meditation circle similar to the old light quests from prarie that triggers the light pieces to appear for us to collect . Then we slide down the ice slope on which the quest memory takes place and we slide out of hermit valley in the same way and the race continues down the ice slope in the village and finishes at the small ice rink at the centre of the village. The ice slope in hermit valley is soo beautiful and well thought out that it would be a shame if we didn't go through that every day. I feel like tgc is missing a really nice opportunity here

[cunning isle]

Greetings skykids!
The soundtrack of Season of Dreams is out!
https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/Pz3CdabgPGKq5FSC8

[fathom river]

Lol. Saw people on social media sites debating the hearts on past seasonal quest are now lock with candles.

Someone said, that beta didn't even tested it. Haha. Lol i want to say that we actually have no qualms about it

[slate heath]

can someone help me at the 4 doors in vault x0 ty @spark lance we did it ♡

[fathom river]

Hii. Better ask at #beta-looking-for-group

[spark lance]

Sadly, they did. @slate heath send me a qr and I will help you.

[spark lance]

Great to give as feedback! I think its a wonderful idea

I just got from 37 candles to 44 candles in a praire run, without candles behind locked/multiplayer game play (including praire being the candle cake realm today)

Not for the specific number but what you can gain in just one realm for busy people.

[oblique mica]

I’m fine thank you so much

[vapid kestrel]

I can add to this that doing GW + Forest in beta gave me 9-10 candles
While running GW + Forest in live gave me 6-7 candles.
But this also means that the realms I did after that gave me less candles in beta than in live, so that in the end I still got my 16-17 daily but it "was harder" to achieve in beta

[ebon sable]

Missed out on the festive table by 2 candles... 😭 oh well, will now wait for live.

[spark lance]

Yeah it is harder” because I read the new system is about feeling you gain more in the beginning for busy people. I’ll do Valley next to see if I hold on to the easy gain feeling.

Yesterday was less of an easy gain feeling because I started in Vault and didnt go all the way up for all candle cakes. Maybe they make a big difference for this system?

[vapid kestrel]

Yep, since you don't earn more candles in total, that means that you will get more at the beginning but less in the end, so a constant 2h30 candle run will now be a 1h to get 10 candles and 1h30 to get 6...

I have also a little sad info that is :
When you start your day with a 90% full candle OR 1% full candle, you will in both case lose the same amount of the circle ⭕ with arrows thing when you forge that first candle.
Dunno if that was clear tho 😂

[spark lance]

I’ll look out for that after i complete a full candle run today. Because i did start with a near full candle. Thanks for the info! I like testing this system through feeling. Because im so bad at math

[north girder]

i just did a full cr and left the races at the very last. they gave one full candle at 1 chevron during sliding race and 1 full candle at 0 chevron for flying race. not 150 wax lmao

[vapid kestrel]

Haha yeah I understand !
I can confirm that candle thing because my candle was full enough to be forged with collecting half of homespace wax, it is not a lot of wax...
And what a bad suprise when I saw the red circle being cut after that :stickerGloomy:

And correct me if I'm wrong but to me, in order to make to most satisfying gain feeling you have to collect the more wax in less time. Meaning you must avoid starting with Vault or Valley that have their wax far from eachother, instead doing GW or forest that have closer plants and candles you have a feeling of earning a lot of wax faster.
But if planning to do a very full run, better start with those empty realms so when the wax-gain drops you will still get your candle filled faster if you are doing the fuller realms
(I am not English and I hope this makes sense for anyone reading it :stickerEmbarrassed: )

[north girder]

Also after completing a full cr I only got 16 candles. seems like the old system still gives more candles.

[north girder]

oooo maybe i can try starting with empty realms first because i started from isle to vault but left the valley races the last. I'll see if there is a difference tomorrow after reset. thanks

[calm fiber]

Guys have you ever encountered someone using a carrying lamp while skating on a spin?
It makes me feel very dizzy.
I'd like to submit some suggestions to tgc but don't know what would be better to change it to, any ideas?

[pale junco]

So

[spark lance]

I totally understand. Im not English either. So i know the feeling of wanting to explain something and not knowing if it comes across I didnt collect home candles today. To start with bulky gains. Im going to do them last when i do the efficiency candle run. I did Valley snowboard race (as I call it lol) got candles from temple and Village candle cake and hotspring (not Yeti candle cake) and I got 3 candles. So for praire/sacuntuary/the easy valley route (icerink/race/temple) and easy access to Village candles. I gained 10 candles. Thats a great gain for such little effort/time. I purposely stayed away from candles that take time because of multplayer or far away in the realms. I agree that i think that for full candle runs it might be better to start with realms like Vault because it will feel like forever gaining something visual motivating if you do it last when going for full candle run.

[onyx summit]

Is the translation function is planned to be in live in near future or it is special function only for beta? I find it super useful that I want it on live too..

[primal pagoda]

it’s one of those things that’s only in beta right now and we don’t know for how long until it hits live. just like portrait mode and shepherd system. if it’s ever going to be in live I’m sure they will announce it.

[spark lance]

Me too! I miss it in Live now I have it in beta

[heavy hearth]

HMM IS IT JUST ME OR DOES VILLAGE OF DREAMS LOOK MORE PURPLE ON OTHER DEVICES AND MORE BLUISH ON OTHERS?😌

[gray quarry]

“These changes won’t go into effect until next year” made me feel like I had to wait a full year until I realized next year is next month lol

[tender oasis]

Multiplayer quests like 8 player, 4 player vault door, big plants will be abandoned in this system pretty soon since all of us could get easy candles without doing those.

[sullen relic]

i could see 8 player and the plants possibly still having some value since they have relatively big payouts, but the vault doors are definitely gonna get abandoned due to how bad their payout is for their requirements (and that's before we even consider how bad vault's overall candle/time rate is)

[desert mango]

Just wanted to let those with iPhone 12/12 pro/max that I strongly Recommend updated software to 14.3 not only does sky run better (not that it don’t run perfect anyways ) but I updated and maxed the 3D mark wild score of 9999 and before update I got 6027 ..amazing 🙂 ... so if you are having issues running Sky then I think the update might help other models to ...:)

[spark lance]

I would do the 8 player puzzle and big plants because they are chonky gains. It takes even less time then without those. But in beta its very hard to find other players to get it done. In Live i don’t have to wait. Because there are so many other players and/or friends

[hollow compass]

I feel like parts of the game is still much the same as it has always been, while other parts evolved and changed with the new player base. This includes Vault and the Valley races, in particular. TGC has added some amazing areas where players love to hang out or do stuff together, but these areas lack that pull.

[thorn delta]

Updating software now 🤞

[hollow compass]

But part of the game’s concept is also that we should take our time and not hurry, trying to collect everything in one go. So it’s a two-edged sword.

[spark lance]

For me personally I like to collect candles and hang out afterwards. I would really love to learn and play the instruments. But with the Live system i dont have time afterwards. With the new system i do. Also im more inclined to help others along the way instead of going full speed ahead

[spark lance]

Do you or anyone else have a screenshot for the best starting point when going on an efficient candle run (so not as much a full one) I register a visual point more then a number

[desert mango]

It doesn’t matter where you get wax from .. wax is wax ... if you think about it .. the ones with least wax will be the quickest to do ... I done the isle ,vault and two races and got 8 candles

[tender oasis]

Personally i was way less motivated to stay in playing after i reached the bottom of the 2 chevron yesterday when i was alone. I usually play in groups and we just talk and mess around and try any idea anyone has while we are on a cr. If i end up alone, normally i enjoy the speed run aspect too. Guess it really depends on the individual’s playing style if the new system in its current form clicks with you or not.
Btw if i start playing with someone at the same time get the same exact things and my chevron drops way earlier than the other’s that shouldn’t happen right? Like half realm earlier. Or an area earlier.

[sullen relic]

@daring niche per your question in #questions-and-help, facebook login has currently been disabled in beta according to the following post: #beta-known-issues message

[daring niche]

thank you

[gilded talon]

So I checked today, my chevron reset back to 3 chevrons not only at midnight but also at daily wax rest, which seems most probably a bug 🐛

[young zinc]

I just randomly was able to relive Confetti Cousin as I was collecting my seasonal candles in prairie. The spirit appeared to be blue (My camera was automatically tracking it because I was in the vicinity) but the memories were grey (I only saw one at the end), as if I already had the spirit. So somehow I got the expression even though she doesn’t seem to be a TS. Is this a bug? If so, has anybody else ran into this?

[kindred fossil]

it is a bug, it happened to a few other seasonal spirits (leaping dancer, twirling champion, etc.)

[young zinc]

Good to know, thank you! I’ll send in a report.

[spark lance]

It could be becaue of the amount wich your candle is filled at the start

[valid terrace]

I feel like all the seasonal spirits are being blocked off from us, bug or not
I just want to say hello to them please

[spark lance]

But I prefer other realms, so the feel is different in collecting wax

[gilded talon]

How? Please tell me more. I’m really confused by this. The chevron reset at midnight for me several hours ago then I consumed it to one chevron. Then there was the daily reset, my candle meter being low at daily wax reset, but I don’t see how that could be related to my chevron being replenished twice in a day

[vast mortar]

Oh boy don't get me started on how much changes we had on Praire since 2019

[mild snow]

omg i feel you!! I forgot to redeem my table 😭 💔

hey, did you guys still get a full candle from the valley races irregardless of your chevron reading?

[spark lance]

I got the theory from this post from Kyoh earlier:

“Yep, since you don't earn more candles in total, that means that you will get more at the beginning but less in the end, so a constant 2h30 candle run will now be a 1h to get 10 candles and 1h30 to get 6...

I have also a little sad info that is :
When you start your day with a 90% full candle OR 1% full candle, you will in both case lose the same amount of the circle ⭕ with arrows thing when you forge that first candle.
Dunno if that was clear tho 😂”

[valid terrace]

to paraphrase Ktjn said “ideally the team want people to be connected with other players instead of NPCs” and I still don’t know exactly what she means

[mild snow]

sorry for ping!
does this mean..... that if you never forge candles (click the candles to receive candles), leaving you with a permanent red dot... your chevron will remain a triple forever? 👀
(probably not huh😂 )

[maiden minnow]

basically they won't add interactable NPCs outside of quest givers and the constellation shop

[valid terrace]

does it mean it’s a bad thing I’m this attached to spirits

I appreciate the company of others but this sentence has made me oddly scared to be openly passionate about them

should I not be this attached
I assume they weren’t intended for you to get attached to them or something but that’s probably wrong so help

[maiden minnow]

Nah it's fine, it happens too.

I became very attached to the earth Prophet for some reason, even called them Spider momma TwT.

I'm so sad she's gone in Live now

[mild snow]

i know we are still in testing stages so no one knows for sure.
does anyone have any clue what the chevrons are keyed to? do we deplete our meter depending on how much wax we collect/candles we forge, or how much time we spend collecting wax or the number of realms we cover?

[minor falcon]

I'm sure ktjn didn't mean to directly invalidate people who enjoy the npcs of the game

[valid terrace]

I was scared to death I was being invalidated by her mlcohdohsogstsost

[maiden minnow]

Whenever we get enough wax to forge a candle, it goes down. Meaning even if you don't collect your candles, they will still go down when you get enough wax for another candle

[spark lance]

No problem for the ping! But no I forged after completing a realm and Even when i had the red thingy that I could forge the whole time. Along the way in the realm the chevron dropped

[valid terrace]

I mean no offence to her
I should’ve asked for her to rephrase it at the time

[mild snow]

awww, im sure she didnt mean it that way! i think they're trying to encourage us to socialise and not worry about the candle grind

[valid terrace]

it’s to do with me liking spirits a lot as important characters too

[gilded talon]

Still having difficulty understanding it especially the circle ⭕️ part. My case is my chevron went back to 3-chevron both at daily reset and at midnight my time. According to the description of the new system I thought TGC probably set for one replenishment of chevron in a day instead of two?
Edit : I get that circle part now but I think we are talking about two different cases in the end. My problem is not my chevron dropping, but it increasing back to top

[minor falcon]

we find diverse meaning in the game, even outside the experience the devs intended - your way to play is as valid as any other, regardless of what others think

[spark lance]

Its wonderful to get attached to spirits in this game and feel all the feels. So I would say be you

[valid terrace]

Thank you...but it’s just the fact a dev said that towards me

[mild snow]

ooo this is interesting!
i look forward to figuring this chevron meter out haha
surely theres gonna be a 'most efficient route' for candle running where we collect the most amount of wax in a short span of time hmm

i think its important to realise that when staff members speak to us, they're addressing us as a group! and that nothing they say is meant to snipe a particular person! Its hard to communicate over text and sometimes things can have double meanings and come off differently from what they intended But im defo sure she didnt mean it that way

[maiden minnow]

Heueeh lemme try to clarify the candle system, since I think I fully get it now.

3 Chevrons means
1 wax = 0.15 candles (for example

2 Chevrons
1 wax = 0.1 candles

1 Chevron
1 wax = 0.05 candles

Each chevron has 4 stages that go down one by one each time you get enough wax to make a new candle, whether you collected your candles or not.

[spark lance]

Its confusing as a whole the new system because its different and there might also be bugs. And a work in progress. So keep an eye on it when u start a new candle run after today

[maiden minnow]

lmao I touched a manta at Valley and it restarted my chevrons. Guess I got free extra candles ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spark lance]

Report also

[tender oasis]

Magic mantas:SkyLOL:

[mild snow]

oml thank you raze, i get it now!!
so with every candle you forge, that meter is gonna drop by that little fraction.

its like midnight so my brain is a little broken. does this mean its prolly more efficient to do the 'slow' realms first and the wax-rich realms last?that way you can grab the last bits of wax nice and quick
Gah or is running wax-rich realms first better than you can just give up on the wax-poor realms ahhh

hmmm i wonder if saving valley races for the last would be good (because you'll get a full candle either way)

[random gull]

yes please submit bug reports when weird things happen like that! I know as a player it’s tempting to want to leave the bugs that give you an advantage but think about the flip side of it: this same bug could harm you or other players too and the devs need to be made aware of it so they can fix it and make it work right for everyone

[spark lance]

It depends if you do full candle run or not

[maiden minnow]

every candle you can forge*

aside from that, yeah it's pretty spot on owo.

Imo, the best speedrun route will always be
Daylight -> Valley -> Wasteland

[sullen relic]

if you're trying to keep the apparent candle-earning speed as constant as you can across a full CR, then yeah, going from slowest-to-fastest realm (in terms of candles per minute rate) is what you'd want to do; you'd want to do the reverse instead if you're trying to get the candles as quickly as possible in case you suddenly need to stop your run

[mild snow]

hmmm
maybe for full candle runners.. wax-poor/'slow' realms first so you can grab the final lots of wax quicker in wax-rich realms
then for selective runners.. wax-rich realms to get more bang for your buck then you can leave out the wax-poor realms

[untold jolt]

I have a question
Two actually
Do beta patches reset the candles?
Is there one planned today?

[mild snow]

i dont think it does!

[untold jolt]

Erf and there go my hopes to get the 2 seasonal candles I need today 😭
Thanks for answering

[gilded talon]

Beta wax resets at daily reset time just as Live does. It has nothing to do with updates

[maiden minnow]

I know we've been getting a lot of new stuff in Sky lately.
The flight toggle,
Message boats,
Tier 2 capes,
New candle system,
Spirit updates, etc.

But let us not forget the best update/feature we will definitely need for Sky in order for it to win Game od the Century and become an instant classic for all of humanity.

And that most important feature is:
Fall Damage :pFIRE: :pFIRE:

[mild snow]

wait i dont we already have fall damage
edit: wait thats icy damage in valley
edit2: OML IVE BEEN PLAYING TOO MUCH GENSHIN AHHA

[minor falcon]

our ankles are as strong as steel for a reason

[untold jolt]

FALL DAMAGE IN A GAME ABOUT FLYING?
Nooooo please noo
We're made of pure light why would we get fall damage

[maiden minnow]

that was bonk damage, and it was removed a few months ago TwT

[mild snow]

I-i have been playing too much genshin. im starting to get mixed up OMG
i keep trying to honk in that other game... 😭

[gilded talon]

I loved losing my light deliberately through bonk damage at home space, it was fun, but I’m also ok to live without that

[maiden minnow]

I swear, Genshin and Sky are slowly becoming frienemies.
A lot of my friends play both Sky a n d Genshin. They both have beautiful worlds and both inhabit the mobile landscape

And I really don't mind. Both games are very fun in their own right ^^~
(although, I'm still salty that I managed to get Diluc a n d Zhongli, but missed out on Childe. HHhhhhhh)

[mild snow]

oof i feel ya. im so grateful their reset times are different so the last min grind is split up over a couple hours haha.
Sky used to be a my daily go to game but now my attention is being pulllllled awayyyyy

[maiden minnow]

y e a h. Genshin and Sky's resets are 12 hours apart, it's p e r f e c t.

I Genshin in the morning to pump me up for the day, then Sky at Night to prepare myself for bed~

[mild snow]

sounds like a good plan! ||haha we should prolly stop our genshin chat here before we get modded 😂 ||

[random gull]

yeah genshin isn’t sky and definitely isn’t beta

[gilded talon]

How was your last-quest experience Kai?

[spark lance]

Hzy

All my friends and me can't talk
Is it normal ?

[mild snow]

theres a chat bug rn!

[spark lance]

Have any of u encounter with relieving the juggler spirit from Rhythm? I saw a post in fb and wasn’t sure if this person it’s u know hacking

DAMN IT

[gilded talon]

It could be or it could be bug. Seasonal spirits seems to pop up randomly and say hi recently

[spark lance]

Well I found two ts kajsjssj imma report it then

[valid terrace]

I’m very tempted to see it just to say hello to the spirits but I’m scared of getting in trouble

[mild snow]

theres no harm in looking! haha if anything, there'll be more people to report the bug :DDD

[spark lance]

I guess we don’t get in trouble since there is a bug and we doing it legal I guess...specially here, to report

[minor falcon]

it's beta afterall, bug hunting is very much our thing

[fiery remnant]

Is there spirit memory in the underground cavern in sunny forest? Coz i saw one but i forgot to do screenshot☹️

[random gull]

ah sorry just now saw this the final quest was very pretty but man it was hard to control my skykid and tap emotes. seems the emotes tapping isn’t essential to complete though or I’d suffer

[storm vessel]

I just stood still and tap the emotes when I did it because I didn't know you're supposed to skate. Lol

The crowd were still cheering

[kindred fossil]

on one hand, it's nice that we have more control and interactivity with the quests rather than being an outsider, it makes the experience more genuine and you feel more invested in those characters. otoh it's not made clear what you're supposed to do, i made the same mistake in the 4th quest and it clicked a little too late

[spark lance]

I had a very similar experience with the emotes not responding.

Off topic but I noticed a bug in Live and I cannot confirm it in beta, because I don't have this cosmetic in beta. My skykid turned a green when wearing the cargo pants. Can anyone tell me if this is happening in beta?
I tried to ask folks about it in Live to see if I was alone but just got alot of the class cut-ups.

[storm vessel]

My skykid arms are green as well when wearing the black sanctuary pants.

[spark lance]

Thank you for confirming. I hope it is a bug and not intentional.

[random gull]

I left feedback that maybe the skating could be a predetermined path and we click the emotes ourselves or vice versa where we skate around and the emotes be automatic. it sould certainly help with the confusion I had

[spark lance]

I feel like this would also make it look better, I mean here's this wonderful dancer putting on a spectacular show and then here's me crashing into 50 pillars and spirits

At first I thought it was predetermined and then quickly realized it wasn't as I trashed the performance.

[azure spruce]

not only the arms, but also the face when using maskless

[steep ferry]

Gonna just drop a quick shofgouaoasif

[hollow compass]

In what way is that relevant to beta?

[desert mango]

I really did like the way the path was not predetermined.. it’s like having auto aim ..I can’t stand it .... it must of took me about 8 times to do a performance I was proud of and I enjoyed trying to do it ... I don’t think it should be made as easy as just click emotes ... might aswell watch a cutscene ... having full control and the lessons building up to performance is to get you ready for it .. it’s the whole point .,, anyways each to their own ...🤍

[thorn delta]

I totally agree,being in control of my character being actually me skating is what made it emotional for me ,tapping emotes only ,that would change the feel completely for me ,practice makes perfect and Rome was not built in a day 🥰🙏

[tacit stone]

Good morning beta

Is it true that besides breaking rules, hacking also affects game stability for other players? Like server lag and stuffs? Would love to know more This is a game developing issue which i totally hv not much knowledge about

[desert mango]

Not allowed to talk about that kind of thing here ..sorry 🤍

[tacit stone]

Am talking about an overall better understanding of why hacking is hazardous to the game. We r not allowed to talk abt this here?

[untold panther]

Can i talk to anyone here via dm??

[hollow compass]

About what, more specifically?

[fathom river]

I think they're asking about the random spirit appearing everywhere and getting their emotes

[untold panther]

Nothing out of the game just game stuff..

[hollow compass]

Why can't you ask tht here?

[untold panther]

Okay nevermind thank you for the help

[hollow compass]

I'm happy to help, but I didn't quite understand why you couldn't ask openly here (if it was about those random spirits, like ryuukun said).

[deep prawn]

How can i get season candles for season items? daily quest?

[wary timber]

yes, the daily quests give you one seasonal candle each and there are also four candles in the daily quest realm that give you extra seasonal candles. normally they would give 1 in total but in beta they give more

[hollow cloak]

Actually... Right now there are 8 seasonal candle clusters in every single realm.
That's 20 candles if you visit Prairie through Vault, plus 4 for daily quests and the 1 you get from the shrine at home.

We can collect a total of 25 candles daily right now! :SkyTada:

[tranquil ether]

I was actually about to ask ^

[spark lance]

Guys look at this

I just found the confetti spirit

[random coral]

Yep there’s a bug in live and beta where you can relive the fragment spirits and get there emotes

[spark lance]

which spirits can I collect

[random coral]

Well I guess the fragment ones but it’s hard for them to spawn

[spark lance]

I checked for duck mask one but yeah i guess i cant catch that one

[tiny umbra]

Not just fragment spirits
Know that it is a bug, try not to exploit it or get too attached to what you may uncover

[random coral]

Yes, let’s keep bug reporting and hopefully TGC will find a fix

[desert mango]

I hope the spirit bug is fixed ASAP .... on another note my prime minister interrupted tv with breaking news and we just gone into tier 4 corona .. sky + sky beta is my world now , Christmas is cancelled

[spark lance]

oh no, that sounds pretty bad. stay inside and stay safe!

[pale junco]

Isn't tgc going fast with dreams in live like adding the new area so early and making bear hug available already

[ember marlin]

Hurro, can I ask about the new candle forging system? Once your energy has gone down, is there anything I can do to increase the energy? (From 2x speed to 3x)
Cause I read somewhere it can increase again.

[opaque swan]

okay but the final cutscene was done amazingly.. it was so sweet and amazing hsjfndnks

[lusty light]

Every game adds in content before it’s released, bearhug is a permanent addition to the friendship tree like any other interaction such as play flight and piggyback which were added with a season

[pale junco]

Yeah but isn't it too early. I'm asking because people are hacking in the new area. Prophecy cave was added like a week before the season

[lusty light]

People are going to break terms of service no matter what, TGC had to update the game to fix the preorder bug

[tiny umbra]

Days of feast comes before dreams and they’re in the same patch

I joined the first day of enchantment so I don’t know how it was with Playfight, I would assume it’s normal and not just with dreams to have friendship emotes become available before season start ?

[slim kayak]

it's always been like that

[wary roost]

i don’t know whether any of us has discovered it or not, which is about the new candle forging system... assuming my child of sky is already tired and is at their lowest efficiency, plus there’s one more drop of wax needed to forge a new candle, what would happen the next day? as soon as i get a drop of wax the next day, i get a new candle, and consumed one chance to accelerate, but not actually being accelerated, which is completely weird and frustrating, isn’t it?

[hybrid wedge]

So far what we know, based on what's been posted in #news, is that it will be set on a daily basis. Once you reach the slower forging rate during the day you're playing, it will remain slower until the next day.

[steep ferry]

Does forging rate reset every day?

[steady pond]

thats what is supposed to happen, yeah. people have been reporting that it doesnt happen at regular reset time tho, so i assume that part of it is a bug

[steep ferry]

[valid terrace]

Ok but can we just talk about the idea of gat chibis
a distantly related species to afro chibis
I’m a proud gat chibi

[steady pond]

gat chibi + umbrella combo feels cute to me. sort of like a royaltys tiny capable attendant or something

[valid terrace]

imma go see if I can relive Juggler for the sake of reporting it
but also to see Juggler as I like seeing spirits

[steep ferry]

A what chibi?

[random coral]

A chibi with the gat and an umbrella

[tiny umbra]

The ice rink is a pretty good place for spirit glitches since there's 3 seasonals in the same area, and people are already there for season quests, good luck !

[steady pond]

the TS bug seems to have upgraded in a way that makes me think theyre sentient somehow, lol.

previously they would only show up and disappear after awhile, but now, some of the guidance spirits will cling onto you and not let go until you transition to another zone. its like their last cry for help and its kind of terrifying :SkyLOL:

[tough oracle]

rather than being based on the amount of candles foraged, it seems to me that it's based on candle wax collected. In other words, it shouldn't matter how empty/full your next candle is for the next day

[steep ferry]

What's a gat though, idk what that is

[steady pond]

the hat from the yellow robe spirit. might be faster if you googled it tho

[pale junco]

It does depends on amount of wax you already have as a chevron goes down with each candle

[spark lance]

With what terms do you search it with besides ‘gat’? I tried but in my language ‘gat’ = ‘hole’

[steady pond]

gat hat

[rain delta]

I still remember that time when a moth ran across the TS spirit bug and it kept attaching to them... I show up just minding my own business and melting plants... they end up flying towards me real fast

Dump the bugged spirit on me and leave hahaha

[spark lance]

Oh! I see now its ‘hat’ in the post before. I was on the wrong track with others search terms. Sorry. Thank you

[abstract plover]

i’m sad i was never told when days of festives ends

[jolly condor]

hold on how are people activiting the missing spirit glitch?
i had a friend pick up the crab emote in live as well so :pEyes:

[abstract plover]

its a bug i think

[exotic sail]

are the changes to the stadium gonna be permanent when the season is over with?

[kindred fossil]

yes

[lapis ore]

I keep grabbing the bugged circle in ark, either ends up on someone else or following me to the boat That’s the only one I ever come across too

[next moss]

Question guys. Is invisible cape available in live version? I just saw a player in 8 player door with it 👀

[oak berry]

nope, just an easter egg in beta, they were probably capeless

[random coral]

No invisible cape isn’t in live, are you sure they weren’t just doing the capeless glitch?

[next moss]

@oak berry no they weren't capeless because I can't see the cape but I could see the stars floating on their back and they were flying. Alone.

[lusty light]

Sounds like a bug, the invisible cape doesn’t have stars

[next moss]

Yeah that's why i was greatly confused. But they went around... laughing doing random emotes. Purposely beeping to light each one of us.

[random coral]

The cape might have just glitched and didn’t show up

[sharp talon]

With the no. Of hackers i encountered in live, one can modify a normal cape to look invisible if its possible, you never know

[tacit stone]

You found the Angel. Screenshot and send to TGC to redeem a limited Angel Halo crown

[lusty light]

Please don’t joke around like that

[tacit stone]

Okay

[next moss]

I've had weirdest day today lol. I was able to claim in Ark and now I see glitched capes. Ahaha

[sharp talon]

Btw i did a full cr in beta including trials and excluding eden and i got only 16 candles(even including the new area) as compared to live where i would get around 18.5 candles excluding eden and also the new area.

[hasty vessel]

Probably missed a spot

[sharp talon]

Nope i got every place

[lusty light]

Report it as a bug

[spark lance]

That happened to meeeeeeee, I mean I don’t know if they could see me invisible but I was just looking at my Skykid and just the stars showing up, it was fun

[faint hazel]

chonky light make me :) i would be very enthusiastic if they are kept this way when it goes to live

[inner pilot]

Has days of feast ended in beta? If so, are there days of feast table spells?

[desert token]

yep, the event has ended. just like with the halloween cosmetics, there aren't any spells to collect anymore.

[inner pilot]

Aw I thought it would’ve been like the swing or bonfire spells

[frail crypt]

I FOUND A SECRET PLACEEEEE

#beta-screenshots-videos

[jolly condor]

does anyone know what triggers the spirit memories to appear? (e.g. the juggler spirit)
i mean with the current bug going on

[spark lance]

I honestly hope that the stuff that are free in beta actually Stay free! I think the peeking postman pants and cape are cute and i always wanted pants and a cape like those. And the spin mentor's hair and quail mask are so pretty too!

I really hope that TGC decides to let the free things stay free. That would be more than awesome!

[fluid quail]

#beta-feedback

[spark lance]

Where do i see a confirmation of my message being sent?

[fluid quail]

it'll show as soon as ur msg get sent

[spark lance]

Do you see what i said about the pants?

[fluid quail]

nope it's a private channel, everything is blocked

[spark lance]

Weird
Does this mean i should send it again?

[fluid quail]

only the moderators can see it kaiko, no u don't have to send it again

[spark lance]

So in this channel here only mods can see what i write?

[lusty light]

If you didn’t get a message confirmation from the bot, send it again

[fluid quail]

in #beta-feedback yes

[lusty light]

I just checked the channels and I don’t see a recent feedback from you

[spark lance]

I honestly hope that the stuff that are free in beta actually Stay free! I think the peeking postman pants and cape are cute and i always wanted pants and a cape like those. And the spin mentor's hair and quail mask are so pretty too!

I really hope that TGC decides to let the free things stay free. That would be more than awesome!

[lusty light]

You have to send the message in #beta-feedback

[spark lance]

Whoops

It worked now, thank you guys, and sorry if i caused trouble, i thought i would get a conformation if i sent it here. Thanks again!

[wind panther]

Hey ah, I wanna send a suggestion to #wishlist-and-ideas-archived but i would like to discuss it first so I can send a better idea.

[zenith wasp]

Sure

[next moss]

Spirit's aren't yet available in live or are players getting it through glitches. I'm so confused now 😅

[tiny umbra]

Please report players you see with emotes from Season of Dreams, but yes there is also a bug allowing people to get past seasonal emotes when it’s not the ts or the season for it, but you shouldn’t be seeing Dreams emotes in live besides lvl 1 bear hug

[next moss]

Thank you.

[wind panther]

My idea it's about making a type of "music sheet store" that's about people making their own music sheets and selling them for hearts! You can hear a small piece of it before purchasing, and also liking it/voting
For making the MS you will sit in a meditation spot, then start playing the song. You just need to specify
—Name of the music
—Which instrument do u need to play the song
—How many hearts you need to purchase it

Finding sheets would work as messages; Available for friends, but at X likes/purchases, it's showed to everyone.

Idk, any opinions about it?

[gilded parrot]

@spark lance

[tiny umbra]

SKYBOT NOT AGAIN

[random coral]

Skybots cold pinging again

[spark lance]

Hihi

I have been summoned?

Oh, hi Skybot.

[haughty perch]

Is the translation button just in beta or is it in live too?

[wind panther]

Just in beta!

[spark lance]

Cute idea! Still music sheets tend to work with one note at a time. So many musicians use chords which can be hard to translate and learn through music sheets. YouTube makes purchasing them obsolete these days :[

[neat lily]

The tranlstion button dont work for me i press is nothing happends

[rain latch]

Anyone else noticing less candles after a full cr with this system??

[spark lance]

I don’t think I ever mentioned this but does anybody else feel like the ult gift cape is lacking something? Like it looks cool but I feel like it’s way too ‘simple’ for an ult gift? I feel like it’s an evolved version of tier 2 capes, but that’s just my opinion of course, the mask is still bomb tho

[tiny umbra]

You could argue the same with and
I know there’s a few people with the same feelings as you, not every cosmetic is gonna be to everyone’s taste, glad you like the mask thou

[oak berry]

manta cape, the youtube premium white cape

[slim kayak]

apologies for the late ping, but try tapping on the message itself to open up the history, and then use the translator there. it seems to work better that way. but do send a bug report on that so the devs know that there are still ways they can improve it

[vocal lotus]

You know about this daily light system...I like how tgc is trying to improve the experiences, but I wonder if some other things can be done. For example, instead of collecting candles at a faster rate, wouldn’t it be more convenient to have less candle locations?

[random coral]

Do you mean have less candle locations but they give more light? They could do that but it would remove light from spots players have memorized and I think it’s just better to have all of the candles because it feels right to have them in those places. But you can post your feedback in #beta-feedback

[fathom river]

Lol Facebook sky groups are toxic. You here my beta gang is precious

[stark cloud]

Welp, i got confetti emote. What a weird bug. Already reported this bugs.

[upper wraith]

yo can anyone tell me how much was the days of feast horns again? i forgot

[random coral]

14.99 USD iirc

[iron anchor]

It's subjective and preference i guess. Ionestly loves the cape so much more than anything else, it looks cool while flapping QwQ, but i am not a fans of the mask bc no face is already my fav UwU

[neat lily]

Hi in the birds nests i got the dancing sprit today but its not a travalling sprit i got the emote

The one whit the heead dress

[slim kayak]

Make sure to send a bug report on that in either #beta-bugs-android or #beta-bugs-ios @neat lily
Its been happening to a lot of players lately

[lofty axle]

Tru lol

[wheat blade]

anyone know if it is possible for CH players to join beta, without having discord? is there an alternative for them?

[mighty estuary]

I remember someone says that tgc usually tell the invite wave for enchantment but they don't do it anymore so you can only Know whether there's an invite wave from discord.

[tiny umbra]

Lots of CH people also have discord

[robust hawk]

CN = China
CH = Switzerland

[stark sundial]

CH is from "Confoederatio Helvetica" wich is equal to Switzerland, just a little bit of context :v

[desert token]

ch is the country code for china depending on what source you're using fips uses sz as the code fo switzerland for instance

[peak token]

do yall got the seasonal spirit bug? like they just spawned, when we relive it triggers the system

[drifting eagle]

where are all 4 wl in the village? does somebody have pictures?

[wheat blade]

ooo ty sidewndr, i meant China. i met chinese player today, but they didn’t have discord. i wonder what other option (if any) they have for bug reports

[drifting eagle]

@spark lance sorry for the ping but you reacted with the 5 on my msg? is there 5 wl now?

[storm vessel]

Try do a search in Chinese search engine...

[wheat blade]

we experienced a LOT of disconnects making our way through prairie and forest. and translator worked -some- of the time. it was challenging for both of us. i just hope they will be able to report the bugs for their OS/device, as needed

[tiny umbra]

I believe it’s possible for them to bug report through the app itself, but it’s very slow and buggy. And besides, tgc gets information and stats just from them playing beta, not everyone needs to bug report, people help in ways they can

[lusty light]

It’s possible to report bugs in app, but it is highly preferred for beta only to report bugs here in this discord server because it gets sent straight to the qa team every day vs having the customer support do it, esp since they’re on break and it could take days for them to forward the bug reports through helpshift

[wheat blade]

i tried to encourage them to find and use discord. that is thebest i could do in the circumstances. perhaps i must learn Chinese in future ... (?!)
haha, good luck me!
😉

[sand dawn]

@lusty light what about bug reporting via TestFlight? Those don’t go trough customer support.. or do they?

[lusty light]

They do, it’s all helpshift

[sand dawn]

Ah... I see.. (it’s how I do all my bug reporting )

[peak token]

sorry to cut out the convo but, about the spirit bug thingy, do yall see the spirit then try to relive it or what

[low parrot]

Hello I would like to ask. Did the lamps in the wasteland move after the map updates? Last time I checked my height was before the season started and the lamp used for height measurements isn't that too close to the wall.

[random gull]

anyone else mixing beta and live apps up so hard right now because of the live logo being blue

[tiny umbra]

Usually they start on their own and we go 👀

[sand dawn]

Every time I saw old spirits they were already in progress

[thin mica]

ive been haunted recently by the sunbather spirit both in beta and live, it wONT LEAVE ME BEEEEE ;-;

[valid terrace]

I have a Sky folder - Live on left, then Testflight, then Beta on right

[north girder]

Hey has anyone attempted a full cr including all the big plants in beta? Just wanna check on how many candles did you guys get with the new system?

[north girder]

I know this message is quite a long time ago but YES i got 16 candles too even though ktjn said the total number of candles forged daily will not change... i sent in a feedback on it so tell them the forge rate needs to be re-adjusted im not sure if it’s a bug tho

[random coral]

Seraph said to report it as a bug a little lower than the message so it most likely is a bug

[random gull]

oof i have Samsung game launcher which shows on discord when I'm playing so i can't really organize my games further than alphabetical or just recently played sky beta and sky are my most recent games always

[stray imp]

I just come to peek on Beta screenshot, and i see chonky wax. aww so chonky

[spark glen]

Hi

[fair current]

google said i have sky beta access but i can't download it, saying my phone isnt supported anymore

but i can download it before

I tried methods in beta-faq and no use

anyone know why?

[primal pagoda]

update

[worthy gate]

Tweak to the candle forge rate and interface apparently. 🤔

[surreal beacon]

New beta update

[slim kayak]

oh? what do the notes say???

[tiny umbra]

• Fixed bug causing spirit quests to reset on multiplayer merge
• Minor tweaks to Daily Light UI
• Candle forge rate adjustment

[slim kayak]

i'm surprised that there are not many people in here informing us of the update usually it's more chaotic

[gentle jetty]

Today I found out no mask is 30 hearts and not 20. My memory served me wrong as per usual. And it's beta so I will never get 16 more hearts any time soon. What should I do?

[desert token]

it's beta, I wouldn't worry about it as long as you've got it in live

[gentle jetty]

I guess, still I just lost all my wl to be able to access no mask so it was kind of a bummer. But hey I do have it in live!

[fair current]

hmst

more weird things happened

I can't even find live sky in google play

[worthy gate]

Is this barrier behind second vault 4-player door new? #beta-screenshots-videos message

[oak berry]

oh dang i didnt know there was a barrier

[fallow echo]

There’s this small heart icon on the top right of the friend constellation that say “it shows how friendly u r”, what’s that?

[stoic crow]

the shepard system, as mysterious is it says it is..

[fallow echo]

I see lol

[gilded talon]

In the latest build, gondola activation still freezes players in Village

[tiny umbra]

Did you piggyback up? That happens

[near locust]

The helpshift patch notes for beta aren’t being updated anymore. Where do people go for more detailed notes on beta? Sorry, I’ve been out of beta for awhile and just got back a couple of weeks ago.

[lusty light]

#beta-announcements

[gilded talon]

It depends on your own need. And also this is beta chat, which could be full of spoilers so maybe #general-sky-discussion or #cozy-sky-discussion is what you are looking for

[little hound]

If I come to think of it, everyone in the server benefits from the Gondola Freeze. It’s just a few seconds to spare, now you don’t have to go through the Gondola activation cutscenes

[opaque yew]

I saw someone suggested that candle wax spot to be reduce to save candle farming time instead of implementing chevrons method. I totally agree with this as some places give little wax but need to fly long distance (like in Ark) it will be better if “less spot - more wax” , like in new village, 3 clusters of big candles and that’s it. Instead of fly whole map for few wax 😁 what do you guys think?

[willow karma]

Alr I moved it

[amber umbra]

Idk, I‘m of two minds on that. On one hand, yes, flying to/around Ark is awful and I usually skip it myself unless I am in desperate need of candles. >.>
On the other hand, if they reduced the number of places you can find wax, it might discourage people from going to all corners of the realms in this giant, beautiful world TGC made for us! Having wax all over the realms is a great incentive to explore just my two cents!

[opaque yew]

Hmmm you got a point. This is good for new players that haven’t yet explore whole map. Well I guess veteran might opt to skip less wax location themselves after few more new seasons map added, I mean in future maybe we can get 30 candles daily so we can just visit the spots we need and finished the run.

[edgy lynx]

Guys.....WHATS THE MYSTERIOUS RANKING OF HOW FRIENDLY I AM

[lapis ore]

It’s the Shepard system, it’s mysterious~

[spark lance]

What does it do?

[lyric kite]

It's meant to be a way of indicating to newer players people who are friendly and helpful who may be able to become friends with them and help them if they're confused. But the system is pretty buggy and people have varying opinions about it, so it's been beta only for a long time and may or may not ever go to live. We don't know at this point

[unreal forge]

I’ve been labeled as a Shepard for weeks now and I’m mostly a loner when I play sky so who knows? This system doesn’t make much sense

[oak berry]

it also tends to go up and down at random, but ive stayed as Shepard for awhile

[desert mango]

That barrier has always been their ... it occurs when you go up to first floor without using the elevator

[zealous badger]

I've seen video for the new foraging system and I was wondering. If you collect more candles quicker at the beginning of your run, does that mean you won't have to run all the realms to get all your daily candles? Because it just seems like it doesn't change anything if you still have to do the full 2 hour or so run anyways to all the realms to get your daily candles.

[dapper canopy]

Hey guys. So are there just 4 spirits in new season ?

[opaque yew]

If you decided to get all candles that is available then yes it doesn’t change anything. This new forging system is for those who only have time to do partial run and not fully collect wax

[fleet sorrel]

4, yes

[dapper canopy]

Bruh that’s sad

[fathom river]

Is it just me that I'm wishing that ts next week is cheaper haha

[zealous badger]

I'm just confused is all. Just means I'll have to continue running GW first to make the most of it so it doesn't feel like it's pointless going there for tiny bits of wax at the end of the run.

The only way I can understand this is that by the end of the run, you're getting less and less wax from each plant you burn/candle you light to make up for most of it being collected early on in the run.

So it's not anything beneficial to the usual candle runners. Thanks for the answer.

[crisp thorn]

I just got pinged for update? Not in beta updates yet 🤷🏻‍♀️

[fathom river]

You're not getting less. It's just the same amount of wax. You just get them faster at the beginning

Android has an update too. Wow

[crisp thorn]

Glad I just gathered seasonal candles 🕯

[zealous badger]

We don't get more wax for CRing than we usually do. So that means there isn't less wax, yes, BUT if we are getting say like double wax at the beginning of our run.

If say Golden Wasteland is like 8 Candles now, Forest is at like 5 candles now, and Valley at like 3 candles now. That would mean Isle, Prairie, and Vault would have 2 candles left between the 3 of them so you would collect less wax there at each of them to keep the total count at 18.51 - 19.28 Candles per day.

It would make the end of the run feel like a drag.

[opaque yew]

Yes we can choose our favourite realm to farm now and ditch the least favourite realm and the difference might be only 1 candle

[fathom river]

Yup. That's why you'll be more on socializing and goofing off, to enjoy the game rather than doing same route all over again. It's amazing actually

[little hound]

I just had a dumb moment earlier. I was doing a candle run in beta. Somewhere along the way, I switch to autopilot. Then I stumbled across a kid sitting in the rain, wearing a Dreams cosmetic. I panicked and fumbled on my screen to report them. Then I realized, I too, was wearing a Dreams ultimate and I was like, wait a second. This is Beta

[primal pagoda]

Still waiting for more mini games in sky...
other than hide and seek

[zealous badger]

I personally disagree since my fun is CR and socializing with my friends while we run, but that's my own personal opinion. I won't be ditching one candle and I'm sure most other Full CRers won't either. I just wanted to point out that it would effect things negatively to some of us if I was understanding it right. That's an opinion of course. I am happy it will benefit others tho, like a friend of mine who has work and school.

[opaque yew]

If you plan to do full candle run it won’t affect you in anyway either: the time you spent is still the same, the amount of candle you forge is the same too

[fathom river]

Yes. But according to datas, not even half of players can do full runs nor get half of max candles. Like me, i don't have that much time to farm cause of my work so yes I quite like it

[desert mango]

Same , my fun is cr , I’m happy to see this benefit others ... also it can benefit me too as I can enjoy a full cr every day and now even more knowing I will always have enough candles in the first 30 minutes .. 🤍
Ps: I work full time and have kids too

[fathom river]

I actually kinda teared up when I couldn't get the last ts in live. I haven't got time to do farming because it's year end and my work has stressed me out

[zealous badger]

I did explain that the end of the run would feel more like a drag because you would be spending like 40 minutes on 3 realms for less wax when it used to be 2 full hours about for almost an even spread across the board for all 6 realms. Since there's an equal amount in at least 4 of them.

4.33, 3.73, 3.85, and 3.48, while there were 2 left in the other two realms unless it's a cake day in Vault for an extra 1.33.

Hmm, but maybe I don't need that extra 1 or 2. I don't know yet, I guess.

My point being that it felt worth it to do all realms because you get at least 1 or 2+ candles from each of them a piece.

[fathom river]

You don't need to do full realms. Sky is vast and enjoy it more. Sky isn't meant to make you feel like it's a drag. Tgc wants you to not make it feel a routinely boring kind of game.

[opaque yew]

So to sum this up, this new mechanism only benefits those who are busy to do full candle runs. For you who always do full run you will feel you wasting your time to get the final wax eventhough by default you still spent 2 hours whether the new system implemented or not

[fathom river]

Yes they want you to make your time in sky worthwhile

[zealous badger]

It's not about the time. It's about the effort of going up all of the vault floors or across the entire desert of Isle and into the Trial area for an even tinier bit of wax than you would normally get.

[tender oasis]

My feelings are somewhat similar to Aiden's. Yes the end result is the same no question on that part. But... Imagine a 2 h long full cr. With this system you and everyone else get majority of the candles in the first hour and if you want to do a full run for whatever reason you have to spend another hour in game but gain way less. I wouldn't say there are 2 groups those who do full runs and those who don't. Mostly i do, but sometimes i don't. If someone usually don't do full runs but now have the chance, time and motivation etc. Will get the same dragging feeling at the end as regular full runners, even tho this system was benefical for them 99% of the time.

[zealous badger]

Try to imagine doing all of Golden Wasteland or all of Prairie, just for your last 1 or 2 candles. It's that effort that would feel like it's no longer worth it because originally the realms gave more to you for all of that effort.

[opaque yew]

Yes! This is a way for devs to tell us to stop this unhealthy-habits

[desert mango]

It depends if you play for actual candle count or just enjoy collecting the light from them like me ..I love every realm abd enjoy flying and I find it therapeutic to burn plants and therapeutic to swoop the already burn plants or lit candles ...i know what your saying about having less insensitive to finish a cr .. but all in all it takes the exact amount of time so the candle amount while doing it doesn’t really matter if you plan on finishing it anyways 🤍🕊️🤍

[fathom river]

You can put it in #beta-feedback if you really feel that way. In my beta run, it has been Amazing. I got to goof off more without having the pressure of I have to farm candles.

[opaque yew]

TGC cannot impress everyone, I guess they received complaints about the repetitive grinding for hours daily , i know some enjoy spending hours to grind and when I feel like it I even will lead friend of mine and grind the area I’ve already done. If you feels this is a drag then it means you don’t enjoy CR , you do it for wax

[zealous badger]

I shall. However, I'm the opposite and I don't doubt there are a lot like me as well who feel accomplished when we complete our runs and still hang out with our friends and enjoy the game. Part of enjoying the game for me is completing my full candle run. I've done them almost daily since I started mid Sanctuary Season.

[tender oasis]

I think a bunch of players would be relieved if they didn't need to do full candle runs. But then a Ts like guitar spirit appears and you have to do it anyways if you want whatever it offers.

[fathom river]

Yes. That's why it's amazing you can get more candles at the begining of your run especially when you don't have time to do a full run

[sullen relic]

It makes me wonder if seeing a sort of “daily progress” bar would be a good idea, so you can decide when you feel like stopping based on how much of the day’s max candle limit you’ve earnt instead of guessing by gut feeling

[zealous badger]

Daily max is 18.51 Candles, 19.28 on Sundays. So if you forge your candles and count, you will know how much progress you've made per day.

[sullen relic]

Yes, but those figures only work as long as the max candle count remains at those numbers now — they presumably won’t going forward

[zealous badger]

True, though you would just need to add a bit for each new additional place like the Village of Dreams. The count is only going up because new places have been added for Seasonal Events. I do like the idea of a progress bar tho.

[sullen relic]

that counting method also only works if you actually took note of exactly where your candle count was before you began forging: with the way the new progress bar moves, you're going to lose track of it really quickly if you didn't take note at the beginning unless you have a very precise understanding of how the formula works

[zealous badger]

That's very true, tho I do keep count personally. Maybe make an official suggestion?

[sullen relic]

i don't think such an idea is likely to be implemented overall though, because actually seeing something like a daily progress bar is probably going to encourage completionist behaviour when people realise there's still more to collect, even if they have most of it already -- that potentially has the opposite kind of effect as what TGC wants depending on how people react to being given such precise information about how much more there is to go

[tender oasis]

Old times when your screenshots were about friends and not about your daily starting candle number

[zealous badger]

I have hundreds of screenshots messing around with my friends and countless hours of videos of them and strangers playing music. We got the glowing glitch after the first Prophecy Trial and had so much fun with it. I really regret not taking it to Wasteland to mess around.

[tender oasis]

Glowing glitch was painful but fun i did a full run with it, my chat died in the middle of wasteland, we got constantly reseted at one of the prairie bell towers until we were shiny . But the absolute torture was doing fire trial shiny

[zealous badger]

It didn't benefit you to be shiny during Fire Trial?

[desert mango]

I think maybe
those who the system benefits will be happy😊...
those who do full candle runs will be happy 😊
But some always want more in my opinion ,for example : The whole candle run accelerated - these people may not be happy with the system . 🤍

[zealous badger]

To be clear, I'm not unhappy because I wanted to spend less time doing Candle Runs. I'm unhappy because it would feel like I'm wasting effort doing a full realm for like possibly .50 candle while still needing to do 2 more full realms for even less.

[opaque yew]

And don’t forget, the map will probably get bigger and in future to complete a run may take 3 hours

[zealous badger]

...I hadn't even thought of that. Eww...that...yeah...maybe this is a great idea moving forward if we consider that the game is constantly expanding.

[sullen relic]

the glowing glitch looked more like a filter applied directly to your character model, it didn't actually emit light on your surroundings -- it actually just made everything around you look darker due to the increased contrast

[opaque yew]

Imagine students spent this many hours in game instead of studying

[zealous badger]

I never noticed that because we just played around in the Trial area and the Home Space while we were glowing.

[gilded parrot]

The hardest part was starting! We did it!

[tender oasis]

Not at all. Shininess didn't affected what you could see befire you or the surroundings at all. You were only a glowing ball with a dark background.

And yes the end result is the same if you look at the numbers. How you get there and how you feel through it is different. I would be much happier with a system where you have to play a little to make your chevrons go up until you reach the peak and you can go down from that, rather than candle rush in the beginning and going down all the way after that.

[zealous badger]

I've changed my mind. @opaque yew makes a great point. As the game expands...Candle Running will get longer and longer and this system will eliminate that issue by allowing people to not have to grind so long for a decent amount of candles to buy TS items. I understand the benefit of it in that context.

[brazen glade]

I wanna ask in #beta-looking-for-group if someone is able to take me to spirit glitch joking

[desert mango]

No one is forced to do the full 3 hours ... that’s why the system is so good ... people get a good candle amount pretty quickly ..remember the system has to cater to all types of players ...some players like it the way it is without a system (which also is catered for as the system don’t effect all ) ...theirs a very diverse type of player and it’s not exactly easy to make everyone happy ..this first piece of the puzzle ( the chevron system ) is only the beginning of making light collecting feel better for everyone 🤍🕊️🤍

[zealous badger]

Curious tho...If the chevrons can recharge and you can collect at a faster rate again then wouldn't you hit 18.51 candles before finishing all realms?

I thought someone said something about them recharging.

[opaque yew]

It cannot be recharged

[sharp talon]

Everything else is good except the thing is, currently we getting only 15-16 candle in beta if we do full cr. Now thats not good

[zealous badger]

Okay, I was confused when I read that, but I don't remember where I saw that.

[tender oasis]

Here's a vid about shiny bug in fire trial:
#beta-screenshots-videos message

Recharged for me the other day but that was most likely a bug.

[brazen glade]

Another beta update yay ;-;

[zealous badger]

Why are you only getting 15-16 on a full run? And that sounds pretty nice getting them quickly, but still less than ideal.

[hollow compass]

In the patch notes now it says they have done some changes to the forge rate, so it might be good to try a full cr after reset.

[tender oasis]

End number wasn't adjusted i think the first time this system came out. Idk the new update fixed that or not.

[brazen glade]

I love how my notification shows me there is 1min left for my update but irl it shows me im at 10%

[sharp talon]

I dont know. I started my cr from 75 and a half candle and i went through every realm including trials to see what i get in the end. I reached 90, almost 91 and thats it
Have to check again in the new update

[zealous badger]

...Umm, I don't know why that got deleted, but anyways. Thanks to the people who shared their viewpoints and opinions. I can't wait for the release of the live system once it's worked out. I do think it will benefit some of my friends and the people I love in the long run. I got the information I was looking for.

[heavy hearth]

Is there a new update? Where's the patch notes??

[worn trail]

Yup exactly! People see this as a chore and I have no idea why! Like after my studies and other works, I like taking a break in sky. Be it with friends of candle running.

[sharp talon]

We are getting an update on a weekend! Now thats illegal!

[timid basalt]

its saturday (going sunday) for tgc staff
they dont have work on weekends, meaning no patch notes? idk someone pls correct me if i'm wrong

[heavy hearth]

Hmmm maybe. But it wouldn't make sense for an update to be released too haha. Anyways thank you :)

[sullen relic]

there's also the fact that it's closer to the christmas period -- there was a post in #known-issues mentioning that they're giving time to at least some of their staff to rest and spend it with their families: #known-issues message

[hollow compass]

You do know you can read the patch notes in AppStore/Google Play? Ktjn typing them out here is just for our added convenience.

[tender oasis]

You can find some info about what changed in the description section of the app in google play store.

[opaque yew]

• Fixed bug causing spirit quests to reset on multiplayer merge
• Minor tweaks to Daily Light UI
• Candle forge rate adjustment. I copied this from TestFlight

[stone topaz]

seems like a lot of people think it's a bug getting 15 candles without testing.

I wouldn't call it a bug. TGC set the candle rate that way, and it needs adjustment.

That being said, they just changed the rate and need to be tested again.

[hollow compass]

Getting 3 candles less after a full run does sound like a bug to me. And we have been asked to report it as a bug also.

[crude crystal]

when will day of feast end in beta？

[timid basalt]

its done

[stone topaz]

it's just the rate didn't match what they have said sth about "Full CR will get the same amount of candle before"

no wax and candle is lost during a CR. So I wouldn't call it a bug. But again, it's past. Can't wait to test the new rate

[opaque yew]

What if .... just what if , some of the changes was intended but everyone reports it as bugs so they have no choice but to change it back

[silent lily]

Why is the ultimate mask so red now

[thin shell]

How many candles does festive office give?

[hollow compass]

No idea. Was there any extra wax in there?

[thin shell]

I think so

[hollow compass]

I'm sorry, I don't think I paid attention then. Maybe someone else knows?

[tender oasis]

Yes at the end table there were some 🎁 which you could burn. It wasnt that much tho.

[fickle spade]

why is build 159534 in the play store but not #beta-announcements also my sky told me to update

[tender oasis]

We don’t always get update notes here or don’t get them right away. The main info’s about this build can be found in play store around the app’s description section.

[fickle spade]

Oh ok. Thought there was a detailed explanation of the candle forge adjustment thingy

[brave scarab]

When u get so devastated because you didn’t find one seasonal candles stack so your candle bar is not completely full

[hollow compass]

Do you mean in the season? They all appeared at the same time.

[random gull]

changes to daily light ui?

[shadow stream]

Um, does the app have an update? I opened the app and says I need to update but there is no news about it

[coarse cape]

It's already in playstore

[shadow stream]

Oh it appeared just now. Just at this moment lol

[random gull]

it's almost 1am TGC time. we don't usually get updates here in discord the second they roll out in the app stores if you're telling about #beta-announcements channel

[frail crypt]

It’s snowflake cape out?

[random coral]

I don’t think it’s available anymore since I’m pretty sure the event ended in beta but yes it was available

[drifting atlas]

Got an update as well

[woeful geyser]

Did they remove the new friendliness meter?

[kind trout]

aw i sent a photo of a funny little bug i found to screenshots and vids and it was deleted, im not sure why :(

[stone topaz]

3 chevron : 75wax
2 chevron: 150wax

[jagged marsh]

150 wax ??

[stone topaz]

yes, just like before

[spring sonnet]

Chevron?

[stone topaz]

see previous patch note

[desert mango]

I’m thinking that the amount of candles after a full run has been adjusted ... I’m halfway through testing as I’m swapping between live and beta ...

I don’t think it’s 6 candles per chevron.. it’s still 5 .,, tbh I’ve not been looking at that .. also 6 each chevron is a bit too much I think if that’s what it is now

[low kindle]

is this a beta update on my phone

[stone topaz]

Yes it's still 5, my mistake. I haven't tested out Tier 1 and 0. But so far NO CHANGE has made to 3 and 2.

see my screenshot here
#beta-screenshots-videos message

[desert mango]

Yeah it’s still 5 candles per chevron ..

May are u iOS or android ? Ios the update is in TestFlight and android it in play store

[stone topaz]

they may have changed 1 and 0 chevron

[desert mango]

Yep that’s what I’m thinking .. I have just hit 1 chevron so I will let you know if you don’t already by the time I’m done

[desert mango]

I’m thinking that they have just increased the amount of wax it takes to decrease shevron ..I dunno ...

[stone topaz]

not for 3 and 2, they didn't change a bit
Just a reminder for everyone: Chev 1 is a punishment compared to live version

[hollow bolt]

Helloo!
I’m just wondering, does anyone know where I can find the 4th spirit? I haven’t completed it yet and forgot where I was up to

[formal lintel]

Means?

[desert mango]

Yeah the wax to decrease chevron 1 and 0 of course .....I don’t think anything in sky is a punishment .

[thorn delta]

Yeah I was thinking thats maybe how it will work ,I have not tested it yet .

[desert mango]

Chevron 0 is normal right....??!! the way it was before the system and 1 is a tiny bit sped up ? That’s what I thought anyways

[spark lance]

Guys which Cape will fit the full yeti outfit ?

[storm vessel]

Yellow one?

[kindred fossil]

any of the fluffy capes might, especially white fur cape from gratitude

[primal pagoda]

yeti outfit is white while fluffy gratitude is kinda creamy yellow. I don’t think they fit

[steady pond]

i think itll look good with juggler cape. fluff

[kindred fossil]

give it a chance, you'll look extra fluffy: #beta-screenshots-videos message

[iron geyser]

oh my g

[coarse cape]

How is everyone managed to get haunted by dormant ts while I haven't found a single one

[alpine field]

The respective number of wax required to forge a candle

[stone topaz]

no. In the previous beta update Chev 2 is normal. 1 and 0 are punishment

not only u don’t get sped up in Chev 1, you need double wax to forge a candle. Not sure about today’s change

[alpine field]

Is chevron 0 even achievable rn??? Lol

I don’t think chevron 1 got any change btw, it’s still 1/8 candle when I collected the candle clusters tdy

[stone topaz]

If this is true, I don’t know what they have changed on the rate of collecting candles.

[alpine field]

Number of candles available for forging for that tier?? Haven’t tested it thoroughly yet so

[stone topaz]

It makes very little difference if they only change the number of candles in Chev 1. Because you are still getting 10 candles before the punishment begins. And the max would still be around 15 candles per day

[alpine field]

True true
I expected a 0.75 rate for chevron 1 tbh

[low kindle]

[stone topaz]

The reality (at least for now) is you are collecting 5 candles faster. And you collect slower after the 10th candle

[low kindle]

just done my daily quests in this update
gonna play later

[desert mango]

I got 18 candles and I still have to farm praire ,isle sanctuary and office and I still have 1 chevron 🙂

[low kindle]

daydreaming: all 18 candles are quests and i dont need to cr 🤫

[simple sparrow]

hi do any of you know which seasonal spirit is the christmas table from? If so please tell me!

[sweet vortex]

Were there krills in the office during days of feast?

[steady pond]

NPC inside office.

[simple sparrow]

thank you so much

[worn trail]

How much does everything except the heart cost the feast in game currencies?

[simple sparrow]

where is it inside office?

[worn trail]

Wow the calm before the Storm

[opaque musk]

If anyone don't know Season of dream ultimate gift the cape one and raven's coat from Tokyo Raven are very alike.. Now that i think about it those two are giving me the same vibes...

[steady pond]

next to the NPC that tells you about the blue cape.
if youre looking for it now in beta, the event is already over. and if youre looking for it in live, the event hasnt started yet

[simple sparrow]

oh well I was looking for it in beta...

[worn trail]

Too late to discover seas and too early to explore space

[celest zodiac]

Have any of you experienced the same thing as me when we were in the dream village, we couldn't move at a moment when there was background music? (Sounds like a gate opening)

[young zinc]

Both me and a friend were immobilized for a few seconds while reliving bear hug! Unfortunately my sound was off at the time, so I’m not really sure if music was playing. Pulling out an instrument and playing it a few times helped me get unstuck.

[steady pond]

i think that probably happens when someone activates the boats :T... kind of similar to activating prairies towers! might be good to leave it in feedback

[spark lance]

Punishment sounds very harsh, not at all what the devs are trying for here or what beta testing is about

[stone topaz]

let me rephrase. Diminishing return. In the previous version you are getting diminishing return after the 10th candle.

Chev 1 seems 200 wax now. But I am very confused because I get exactly 1 candle at Chev 1, but it takes more than 3 treasure candles at the same time.

[spark lance]

That sounds very beta testing. Thank you so much! Is it more of a negative change because you are a daily full candle runner?

[stone topaz]

It is not a negative change IF they indeed made the new system has a same max candle per day as before. The problem is that we are only getting 15 instead of 19, which is not what they have promised before.

[spark lance]

I’ll go and do the same candle run today as yesterday before the update, to compare when the shifts in chevron happen

[stone topaz]

They either changed the amount of wax in races, or they have made a mistake that races give 1 candle no matter what.

It is supposed to give the equivalent of 150 wax, but I am getting 1 full candle in Chev 1

[desert mango]

At 21 candles my chevron hit zero ... so I’d say with all the littke bits of wax I didn’t get .. 21.5 candles for a full run.... I enjoyed every last bit of that full candle run 🤍🕊️🤍

[spark lance]

It would likely come to live with the original candle count. Now they are working on the system and a bug or even a miscalculation made the max candle 15.5/16’ish. I can’t see TGC take away such an amount of candle/wax a day from us when its implemented in live.

[stone topaz]

Wow that’s very different than what I have tested today. There’s no way that I can get 21 candles, not in live nor beta (Unless I go to Eden)

[desert mango]

Hey zero my chevron hit zero at 21 candles exactly ... 🙂

[coarse cape]

hm, I too get a full candle from sliding race, and I was on Chev 2

[desert mango]

I done every realm except isle and not Eden .. 21 candles including village

[coarse cape]

now that I think about it, I probs shouldn't have cr the village because it messes up my candle count

[spark lance]

Is Eden wax the ‘touch the floating spirits and friend angels’ game at the end?

[thorn delta]

I got 21 and a bit cause I done isle ,I’m very happy with this ☺️

[spark lance]

From 15/16 candles to 21 candles when full candle run is 19 candles

[stone topaz]

how come I am only getting 17

[desert mango]

Well done abu ... Oh wait I have not done ark yet 😱

[stone topaz]

maybe I miscalculated. Gonna try again tmr

But I am 100% sure Chev 2 is 150 wax (no boost, no nerf) and 5 candles on my end

[jolly condor]

not me hunting the dormant ts to see which still work

[spark lance]

Maybe the bug or just code isnt fixed for everyone? edit: send feedback/bug report

[stone topaz]

well if you hit 0 chevron at 21 candles.. it means 7 candles for each level? The math would be right in this case but I am only getting 5 candles in Chev 2

[spark lance]

21 candles for iOS or Android. When you got 21 candles on a full run. React with your OS icon

[desert mango]

1 chevron lasts longer than others ..which takes more wax to deplete .....

[spark lance]

@stone topaz I can do the exact same candle run as you did, if you want more insight today

[stone topaz]

if you don’t mind can you do a Valley race at 3 chevrons?

[desert mango]

I have recorded my whole candle run from start to finish ..I will watch back now ... I did give away two hearts and I’m 100 percent sure one of them was during but the first one I’m not sure ... I’m a idiot if I did ... so glad I recorded 🤍🕊️🤍

[storm vessel]

I only get 10 candles from Chevron 3&2 though

[spark lance]

I can do it as my first wax of today. Skip all wax in Valley before the snowboard race.

No problem! Be back in a few

[lime flume]

Does the amount of time consumed collecting wax reduced at all?

[storm vessel]

Depends on how many candles you want

Full run going to be the same time as before

[lime flume]

So collecting all the wax got a speed up but the amount of time consumed didn't?

[desert mango]

I gave your heart just before you went off on your candle run and you gave me a heart before we split in opposite realms lol ... this means we got 18 for full candle run.
I have video clip abu of me gifting you in constellation and you gifting me if you want me to show ?

[thorn delta]

Ohhhh!😆🤦🏼‍♀️Lol! I thought we did the heart exchange during? So that means i got a total of 18 CANDLES today! Thanks for reminding me!

[desert mango]

It was in live when I went home from wasteland and gave you heart lol ... thank god for screen recording 😂

[crude crystal]

hello does anyone know when will the new ts system apply in live ？

[storm vessel]

The first five candles is speeded up according to the people who tested

[near drift]

yes

[thorn delta]

No sweetie it’s Okies I believe you!

[desert mango]

I did enjoy the last chevrons taking longer to deplete ... very cool .. it made me enjoy the whole candle run more than I already do 🙂

[spark lance]

Skipping all wax in Valley before the race was harder then I thought Do i post my screenshots here or somewhere else?

[desert mango]

I done that yesterday , going down the last part of slope I almost collected - just managed to do it 😂😂 ... also yesterday when I done that both races did not count towards chevron depleting btw 🤍🕊️🤍

[spark lance]

Yeah’ that last part of the slope was very tricky

[silver cypress]

how many stars are there in village?

[stone topaz]

u can only post pictures in #beta-screenshots-videos

[lilac epoch]

Try double bearhug with a friend 😂 Both of you tap bearhug at the same time. Try it. 🤣

[spark lance]

Posted in #beta-screenshots-videos candle/race = 1/1

[stuck hearth]

what happens if you do

[lilac epoch]

You'll look like swans xD

[stone topaz]

wow
now this is bad. It’s a bug, and we should report it.
Races are not supposed to give 1 exact candle

[lilac epoch]

Dizzy* swans 🤣

[stone topaz]

#beta-discussion message

[spark lance]

We send it in as a bug report then?

[desert mango]

Races are supposed to give one exact candle as far as I know ...

[stone topaz]

no they are not. Not yesterday. And see the message link above.

[spark lance]

I did the race on the new update

[desert mango]

Yea 1 candle .... say before you start race your candle is half full( or half empty ) 😂 when you finish race you will get one candle exactly and your candle will still show that half you had... that link I think your understanding wrong ..

[stone topaz]

Think about this: I can finish the race at the very end of my CR when I hit 0 chevrons, and get an equivalent of tons of wax.

This is not supposed to happen, and it didn’t happen this way yesterday. You get 2 candles at 3 chevron by completing 1 race

[hollow cloak]

Okay, but the thing is, you completed it with 3 chevrons which gives you the maximum number of candles per wax collected... So I'd expect to get at least one full candle from 3 chevrons.

I believe the change is supposed to be when you have less, such as 1 chevron.

edit: oh but I see your wax meter is at exactly the same place, that IS interesting ...

[vapid fractal]

The last memory of Dream was beautiful. I won’t spoil anything for the people that have not done it yet, but the finally was so good

[craggy karma]

As we have more and more winged light
Do we have any plans to expand eden?

[desert mango]

Zero the races don’t effect chevron.. you get one exact candle for each race ...only collecting wax effects chevron the races don’t ... yesterday and today that is how my test worked out for me anyways and that’s how it’s supposed to be I’m pretty sure ... if I’m wrong then I apologize but I’m 99.9 percent sure 🤍🕊️🤍

[alpine field]

#beta-discussion message

[spark lance]

Exactly

[stone topaz]

I think they do affect chevron. @spark lance is your chevron meter depleted after completing the race?

And Ktjn made it very clear that races shouldn’t give 2 candles anymore, but now it does

[desert mango]

Today and yesterday I got 1 exact candle from each race ....that’s for sure ... so a bug it is then ... I will review my video and see if chevron was effected .. yesterday it wasn’t ... brb

[stone topaz]

You will if you are in chev 2. Because they are supposed to be the same as the old system

[empty river]

They may not be affected by chevron now, but they’re supposed to. They’ll likely fix it at some point

[desert mango]

Nope I was a two chevron and it didn’t do anything to my chevron , Thankyou for clearing that one candle thing up for me .... now I have a bug to report 🤍🕊️🤍

[hollow cloak]

The chevron meter depletes after collecting equivalent to 5 candles (at least to go from 3 to 2 chevrons) so if it was within 5 candles then it wouldn't have depleted it?

[spark lance]

Its the first wax collected today also. So it should be more because of the chevron system but it is not because they wanted the races to be less mandatory in candle runs. I guess, as someone who doesnt really understand the math behind it, u shouldn do a race at the beginning of a candle run?

[fickle spade]

After lurking I finally saw this. If you're correct then I've found a visual glitch. It depleted the chevron bar by one when in it was full on 3 chevrons TWICE. The glitched first one happened when I got enough wax to make a candle including my almost full candle bar from before.

Edit: Forrgot to add there wasn't an animation when it turned to 2 chevrons and I was not able to forge a candle at the time it changed to 2 chevrons

[desert mango]

I think I will just take the new system as it is and the feel it gives while farming .... as the numbers are not finished yet as tweaking is still being done ..... so in that case I really do like what tgc are doing ..I will just farm tomorrow and just see how it goes without looking at numbers the whole time 🤍🕊️🤍

[spark lance]

My chevron is still 3 bars. Any suggestions on what to collect next? @stone topaz

[hollow cloak]

Basically, from what you're both saying Evangeline and tomikun, we need to do more testing and see what's consistent and what isn't :pFIRE:

That definitely sounds like a glitch if you couldn't forge, though, tomi. I'd bug report if you haven't already

[empty river]

And that’s a great approach! We’re not even supposed to worry about numbers for now since they’re not final 😅

[hollow cloak]

While I understand the omission of numbers, it's also quite hard to know if the system is working as intended when you don't know what it's supposed to do

[spark lance]

Yeah we are in testing mode. But someone only got 17 candles after full run and TVI got 21 candles. So we are looking into that also i think for today.

[hollow compass]

Yes, one of the problems with this weighted system is that anyone who relied on knowing the exact candle numbers they would get every day from each area, may not be able to do that anymore.

[fickle spade]

No. I meant the chevron changed when I had collected exactly 5 candles in wax.

alr am heading out gotta go

[hollow cloak]

Oh. Well, after collecting enough for 5 candles, you should lose a chevron...?
If there isn't any animation though that is strange

[empty river]

Let’s put it like this, here’s an hypothetical scenario for all of you: Say this is live and you’re saving for the next traveling spirit that’s coming in 2 weeks, but only have like an hour to candle run everyday. Do you feel like the candles you’re getting for your time are enough?

[hollow compass]

I feel like a lot of people will say no. I don't cr for upcoming TS, but I understand that many do and they also are very particular about getting that exact candle amount the current guides are giving.

[hollow cloak]

I actually have an app timer set to one hour for live, and I've been able to get the TS I want (admittedly I pick and choose, saving what I can)... So for me, yes.
I have to grind on some occasions, but my typical day is running the quest realm for wax and quests. And I manage to scrape by
(Then again I play gacha games so I'm also very used to having to skip things that I don't absolutely need)

[hollow compass]

Yeah, for me personally this new system would work well. I only collect lazily to have a small stash for friends or any spells that I want. It's nice to get a lot more in that short run of just Prairie. But I can see that for those who want strict control, it's going to feel muddy.

[spark lance]

Yeah, for someone who can be very busy to get a full candle run in. I got like 10-12 candles in an hour yesterday. The feeling of the chonky chevron felt rewarding. But... TGC they said they don’t want to change anything for full candle run players. That it shouldnt affect them in time/candles collected. But in these early stages it seems as it does affect the overall count max collected.

[hollow compass]

The inconsistency right now isn't good. But again, it's early testing days. On a side note, I feel for those who initially went out there and actually counted each wax piece for the guides we have right now.

[kindred fossil]

i'd say yes, i don't always run to the extremes (except for that one time...) and i usually have 70-80 in stock before the teaser, that determines whether i should continue farming or not depending on the TS.
i've managed to buy every single TS so far without relying on repeats + complete all constellations on the side. i didn't start taking constellations seriously until TS were introduced

although i had belonging fully completed minus the ultimate reward, so i had some room to breathe

[toxic spruce]

Mmm sry to interrupt... is it possible to have the gratitude fur cape in beta? Or is just just jelly umbrella and deer mask is (almost) impossible to get?

[empty river]

Only a small number of players should have the fur cape, so it’s not entirely impossible to have

Also, thanks for all the answers In my opinion I feel the change is nice, I usually like to spend less time candle running and more time goofing off with my friends, and if this change was in live right now the grind for both the ts and the feast items that I’m working towards would surely feel less tedious

If I were to change anything about it, I’d want the last few chevrons to be adjusted, cos even if we’re supposed to get the total amount of candles in the end, it feels weird having to wait so long for the last few candles to forge

[sand dawn]

I agree.. doing all of wasteland for <2 candles is just terrible..
I’d rather have a normal rate and then a sharp cutoff where you simply stop getting wax..
(So you can just go do something else, instead of farming scraps for another hour)

[toxic spruce]

I would say yes for the current me but no in the early stage of me playing sky. I started doing full cr mainly for ts and later on for constellation since I really want some of the elder hair. I used to save up one week for constellations one week for TS which this means I need to do full cr to have enough candles to get what I wanted. But now I pretty much got all the things I want from constellation and I had the candle boosts from seasons ending, I kinda stopped doing full cr. the new system will work perfectly for me now since I only need to save up for TS and special events.

[ember isle]

I don't know where else to ask... but is it a bug for someone to have emote from dream season in live? I mean it's not out yet?

[toxic spruce]

Most likely hack as the season is not out and no one should be able to get them

[sand dawn]

Bear hug lvl 1 is available for everyone

[ember isle]

Well it was a spinning emote. Thank you for answering.

[sand dawn]

Oh that’s a carry quest... it might be due to a bug
edit: it isn’t a carry quest.. but a kind of fragment quest..
Anyway, it might be a bug

[toxic spruce]

I saw someone got the spinning emote and the shy bunny emote at the meditation spot yesterday but couldnt report they won’t let me light

[kindred fossil]

spinning is not carry, but i don't think the spirit bug is affecting all carry quests, collect the shards quests (confetti, crab dance) are also affected

[sand dawn]

Yes I corrected myself

Getting into the area is only possible by redacted or joining a friend who is there (also by joining a friend.. but down the line there is a redacted

[kindred fossil]

it might be a mix of both, either way you're not supposed to have the emotes this early

[toxic spruce]

No... the thing is the season is not out, you technically can’t glitch into dream

[trim shell]

Can i ask?? Can beta can provide seasonal pendant to ordinary user ??

[sand dawn]

Yes it’s free in beta, can’t test what we don’t have

[spark lance]

I guess for full candle runners. When system comes to live and all is oke with max candles and everything. When on chevron 2 or 1 don’t forge candles in between. Just at the end. Because a full candle run time is the same amount as the system now in Live. The chevron system makes it feel less motivating at the end. To get the majority of the players who don’t do full candle runs feel more motivated and rewarded at the beginning

[hollow cloak]

You can get the seasonal pendant in beta, but if you're asking if getting it in beta means you'll have it in live as well... Your items in beta don't carry over, nor do your seasonal passes, so you have to buy the pass in live if you want it.

[empty river]

Evangeline that’s a good idea, but I’m still conflicted 😅 cos it makes sense that your skykid feels tired with the new system, but right now it feels like instead of y’know? Discord don’t betray me now pls show the emojis

[blazing sail]

So did anyone figure out which bird the ultimate costume is supposed to be?

Umm is anyone else having issues where swiping on the right side doesn’t always move the camera?

[pine remnant]

Personally, I always do full CRs, and I think a good way to side-step the possible « discouragement » of not getting many candles near the end would just be...not forging until Im 100% done. Because then it doesn’t matter, I got the candles, idc if Wasteland and Vault were barely useful in adding to my count

[storm vessel]

Phoenix?

[blazing sail]

I’m a little nervous that it could be my new iPad if it’s not the game

[vapid fractal]

No I have had this issue as well. Also that the other side so walking/moving doesn’t work in beta

[blazing sail]

Only noticed it today so I was nervous. Is it the new update that caused it?

[tender oasis]

But the fact that you have to use tricks like not forging candle so you won’t feel discouraged in this system is not a good sign i think.

[vapid fractal]

Im not sure what caused sadly... I would just suggest reporting the bug.

[blazing sail]

and I still can’t figure out how to stop the game from asking me to turn on notifications 😭

In both live and beta.

[kindred fossil]

click yes in-game then turn it off in settings

[blazing sail]

Is that really the workaround? Dang.

[desert mango]

I’ve not had any issues with moving camera except in the village every time any of the turtle boats are activated you can’t move (it be nice to be shown the cutscene instead of face in cliff side 😂) .. at first I thought my device was a goner .. hope you get to the bottom of your issue and it’s not ur iPad 😘

[kindred fossil]

yes, it'll stop asking iirc

[valid terrace]

I want to make a ‘Dreams out of context’, but where do I post it

I’m tempted to in the meme channel

[royal stratus]

As far as I know, even if it’s spoilered, you’re not supposed to send any beta-related stuff in the non-beta channels. So, maybe wait until the season is out before you send it?

[desert mango]

Giccix my chevron stayed on 1 until I collected the last candle - minus isle ,ark and Eden ..it did feel a lot better getting the last few .

[valid terrace]

Thought so, just got confused.

[versed nova]

Can someone bring me to the office?

[royal stratus]

I can!

[tender oasis]

I didn’t have any issue with camera and swiping in any direction. I tried both one and two hand mode.

[sand dawn]

That goes in looking-for-group

[versed nova]

Something really weird happened in Eden where the feast day table was there in the middle and no one said it was their chair

[royal stratus]

Dm me a QR code please, I can bring you

[wicked sedge]

Has the Facebook binding been cancelled?

[versed nova]

I don’t know how to

But I’ll try

[wicked sedge]

Where can I see this news?

The message I see is permission granted

[royal stratus]

What do you not know how to do, making the QR code or sending it to me?

[versed nova]

Sending it to you

[royal stratus]

Once the invite has been made, click the share button and then copy the link. Then, just click on my user here in discord and click the message button, paste the link, and send it

[versed nova]

Ok

[hollow compass]

It's in one of the patch notes. Just scroll through #beta-announcements or your app's info. Or maybe it was in #beta-known-issues ?

[versed nova]

Can u send it to me instead

[royal stratus]

You have dms turned off for the server, I can’t send you any private messages

[versed nova]

Oh

There I fixed it

[lusty light]

Facebook login has been disabled for weeks because it was not working, the devs don’t have plans to reenable it at the moment. This was announced it #beta-known-issues

[amber umbra]

I know I‘m probably just dumb and missing something, but I can‘t figure out the second challenge from the questgiver. I started the boats, took one up, and it teleported me to the colosseum at the end of the races. I flew around, skated around, saw nothing. I even tried reliving the backflipping champion spirit (which looked like it was slipping on the ice over and over? ) but I am seeing nothing. Could someone point me in the right direction?

[lusty light]

It’s not in the coliseum, you rode the wrong set of boats

[heady kelp]

Did the snowball cape get removed or something

[lusty light]

Snowball cape?

[amber umbra]

Thanks seraph! I‘ll keep looking around then.

[heady kelp]

From days of feasts. @lusty light

[spark lance]

I totally understand. I was an extrem player in my younger days with now ancient consoles and games lol. Then work live and being a mom made me a casual player. But lockdowns made me an extreme player again sometimes. Also being a Sky moth many moons ago. And being a Sky Beta moth this beta season. So I feel for both sides

[lusty light]

Days of feast has ended in beta

[crude crystal]

I guess it end already?

[heady kelp]

The blue cape?

[lusty light]

The blue cape is still in the game you just can’t get it anymore

[spark lance]

Happened to me too when I first looked for the quest. Its the other boat lift. The one behind the first race quest

[heady kelp]

How much was it

[hollow compass]

All IAP is free in beta. But the Live prices can be found in the blog post in #news

[amber umbra]

Omg finally found it thanks to you thank you so much!!

[spark lance]

I just couldnt find the hotspring also at first I looked everywhere I thought...But I was just on the wrong mountain side. Sometimes we just need a little help from eachother

[amber umbra]

You just embodied the true spirit of Sky in your response And so true!

[thorny fulcrum]

intense hand offering and honking

[craggy karma]

How much does santa hat cost again?

[spark lance]

I saw Seraph give you more like a hint Because Beta is also testing out finding locations that are not that obvious at first. But I just felt your message about not finding it So I thought I would just give you the location

[desert tangle]

Hey guys! I just wanted to ask something about the AP in the traveling spirits: this system is going to be available on live version, or the team is still discussing it?

[hollow jay]

Hey guys The "What to test" note says they adjusted the candle forging rate? But it seems they didn't change Chevron 3 and 2. What about Chevron 1, anyone got data?
--- To Lina: new ts system is still in testing and subject to change

[desert tangle]

So it's something that is still uncertain.

[lusty light]

We don’t know, not everything in beta will go live and Ktjn has said that ts economy balancing balancing is very early in development

[desert tangle]

Ok then, thank you!

[stray elk]

Did they remove the candle quests (Like the things in different realms where you sit on a white circle and gather things)

[stuck grove]

What is redacted?

Also i think the REAL problem with the currency in sky is, the more seasonal areas the devs add, the more wax there are in total, and the longer it takes to cr

So i'd like to suggest the devs to block off seasonal areas seasonally, and maybe keep, like, 5 seasonal areas in the game at a time and rotate them

Also can anyone please tell me if the candle on the Christmas table recharges your light?

[stark echo]

Hmm that would cause backfires since there will always be people loving the blocked off places and will do just anything to get in, and can cause some bugs

[lusty light]

Why close off entire areas instead of fixing the issue that is getting candles?

Most people are already not going to every single area everyday, I want to go to areas because i like to hang out there

[stuck grove]

Okay you both have a point, i didn't think it through :stickerGloomy:

But still the candles can cause a problem

[magic patrol]

Can you experience the final of season again in stadium? Not only while spirit's quest, but also if you want to?

[lusty light]

Yes

Wait I misread, no

The final cutscene is tied to the final quest

[stark echo]

And i just thought that, the whole chevron system gives me the idea that devs wanna limit the number of collected candles everyday, right? So is that the solution for the long cr? That is you dont have to go everywhere everyday but now just collect enuf and like go home or go do whatever, hang out and enjoy your frens?

[lusty light]

There’s already a limit to the number of candles you can get a day without paying, and that limit isn’t changing

Most people do not have hours of their day to go to every single area to collect candles, most people get less than half of the free candles available daily
This change is supposed to benefit this majority of players

[magic patrol]

the one with dancing with girl using emotes above your head? ahh sad :(

[lusty light]

Yeah that one

[magic patrol]

ayy

[stuck grove]

Anyways can anyone please tell me if the candle on the Christmas table recharges your light?

[stark echo]

Yes its always limited and its kinda a burden to those who dont have much time, i understand. My question is about the chevron thing. Well they have to set the limit when is enuf for collecting right? Example when you reach 18 candles then thats enuf, youre too tire and wont get any so 18 a day would be the limit.

[lusty light]

The chevron system doesn’t stop you from making candles entirely, it just follows you down a bit

It would still take the same amount of time to forge the candles as you already do

[stark echo]

But what about special days like sunday? We are supposed to get more because of extra dark plants in gw, will they make another limit on sundays? Or just use other days' limit?

[lusty light]

It’s not really a hard limit, trying to think about the new system like the old system won’t work

[void mica]

[wild folio]

Yes but very slowly

[keen raven]

They don't want to limit. You can still get the same amount of candles daily and I figured from my tests that you can still spend the same amount of time to get all candles as you did before. You just get more at the beginning of your run.

[stark echo]

Ah! I got it, thank you!

[fluid quail]

have u tested the system yet? just wondering

[keen raven]

I have a whole video about it. Posted in promote channel if you wanna understand it more.

[stark echo]

Ye i have, im in beta and been candol runing recently

[stuck grove]

Ok thanks!

[stark echo]

Okie ima check it out, i havent tried cr sunday in beta bc i dont have time to. But thanks for your explanation

[lusty light]

@keen raven please don’t post beta content in the promote channel, it goes in #beta-screenshots-videos

[hollow compass]

Sera, are you sure about the final cut scene? I thought there was a meditation spot in front of the statue in the stadium where you could reactivate the whole thing.

[lusty light]

Yes but you still need to do the entire skating sequence first

[desert token]

I did the final quest two times in a row since I was interrupted by someone collecting the bowing emote the first time