#beta-discussion

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fleet falcon
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I played every single season of the game. What I would do in game while on of then is repeating?

silent lily
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I'm sure everyone who was present in this chat that day saw how many players said the only reason they play sky is Cosmetics

buoyant geyser
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yes true

random gull
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im walking away for my own sake but please just general reminder that real human beings have to read your feedback and please dont be a jerk on the feedback channel. im not gonna come back if you ping me. i need a break pain

blazing sail
buoyant geyser
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did something happen?

fleet falcon
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I think the change of TS requiring the current season adventure pass and the TS demanding less regular candles is fair BUT, now it’s too late for that, TGC should have thought of that since the beginning

silent lily
blazing sail
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You have the same people here saying “it’s too much of a grind” and also “what will I do if things repeat?” I don’t get it.

tired fox
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What is going on? Recap please? pCry

fleet falcon
steady pond
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once people are assured that theres a guaranteed way to get something, people will be willing to work towards it.

in the past, spells were all obtained at random and people were upset because there was no guarantee to get resizes (the spell with the highest demand).

now that spells have a designated area and are always available, people have much less reason to complain now.

so i think something similar could be thought of for TS items

blazing sail
low kindle
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bro...no

steady pond
silent lily
blazing sail
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That way, it can be used by old and new players alike to catch up on anything they missed from that season.

strong canopy
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it would be awesome if there was great endgame content and if players who had finished seasons would get regular candles instead of seasonals. seasons for new players and more candles for veterans
bump

fleet falcon
low kindle
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whats the freaking difference of repeating a season and TS?

stuck grove
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Sadly this is simply the nature of some people - work, work and work for materialistic wealth

sullen oasis
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What's happening here 👁️👄👁️

fleet falcon
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Repeating seasons will not change the grinding aspect of the game (I’m not complaining about the grinding aspect. I took my time to complete the constellations, almost a year), I only pointed out what my subscribers think of the game

soft monolith
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Repeating the seasons it’s not a very good idea for me. We would be stuck in the history and lore of the game without new seasons while one is repeating. I missed a lot of seasons due to studying and I think the best way to bring ultimates is only IAP with a price like the bat cape or little bit more. And they can return like 1-2 times a year only (for example for New Year and other festivities) pAww Idk if I should send this to wishlist and ideas or beta feedback pThink

strong canopy
blazing sail
low kindle
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new players can get their cosmetics and old players wont need to repeat stuff...!

fleet falcon
strong canopy
silent lily
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Okay about this ts/ seasons repeat thing. When you think the same thing from tgc's pov, it will all change. Money plays a big part in descisions, don't forget that.

blazing sail
tired fox
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Repeating seasons sounds like a great way to make TGC lose a ton of money and make veterans stop playing

steady pond
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for anyone popping into chat;

if this discussion is not your cup of tea its ok to take a break from it

drink some water & remember to not get too personal or heated with opinions here

love each other. be kind stickerHug

blazing sail
stiff dust
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Nah, some things just won't come back

spice thunder
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Can someone fill me in on what's happening and also I'm really anxious thinking of the new tiers making to live

runic path
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Repeating season is not a option at all. I'm a Android player and I do want all old stuff. But really, repeating season is not a option for both tgc or player

stuck grove
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The POINT here is that NO ONE TOLD YOU TO GRIND FOR COSMETICS like IT'S NOT NECESSARY FOR YOU TO KEEP PLAYING SKY so if you think it's too grindy then well it's not tgc's problem. You get to choose whether to grind or not

acoustic pulsar
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So like, a whole 3 month just for old season to come back? ...

tired fox
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The current system with full seasons/locked ultimates and ts is p balanced tbh

fleet falcon
# blazing sail New or old players, it would cut back on the NEED to grind, because you’d know t...

New players would still have to grind for regular constelations. The new TS system, which demand the seasonal pass of current seasons helps to decrease the grinding aspect as they will require much less regular candles, so new players would have to farm less and could focus on regular constelations while still having a change to get past seaons cosmetics. Past seasons cosmetics coming with the TS is a way of repeating a season

silent lily
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Having the ts + seasons kinda increases the profits.
When seasons won't repeat people will buy passes everytime and not sometimes.
When ts comes, many people are short on candles and they buy from the shop, that's profits too
Now, if half of it's Cosmetics remain pass locked, that'll force the player to buy ap if they want that item, which will increase the amount of people who buy ap even more, hence increasing profits.
This all was not from my point of view. I oppose most of it

low kindle
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TS is way better than repeating seasons

tropic radish
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I'll just be lurking here now cause the topic went 180° and I'm pretty much lost
So I'm just watching from afar, till i manage to think rationally about all of this

blazing sail
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People saying veterans are gonna quit bc they have nothing to do — I’m in a server with a whole bunch of veterans that quit because all there is to do is grind every day forever and do the same quests ad nauseam till you die.

acoustic pulsar
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I like the idea of TS better though

spice thunder
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The current system with full seasons/locked ultimates and ts is p balanced tbh
@tired fox
I can't agree more I don't feel the need for repeating seasons or cash gating TS or adding over priced stuff

blazing sail
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I’m just explaining what would make the game actually wholesome and not predatory. You can make excuses for any kind of behavior with the “they need to make money” defense.

tired fox
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The fact that they’re adding new stuff to the main constellations is a good idea to give old players new things to work for too

silent lily
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I'm the one who can do anything to reduce the grind part of the game, so i would still prefer maybe mini short Seasons, instead of ts.

placid linden
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Repeat seasons is not a good idea for new players or veterans. TS system without AP, as it is right now is the most fair for everyone.

fleet falcon
steady pond
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i think if we work with TS, if people knew who was coming much more in advance (like maybe at the start of the month, TGC shows the 2 spirits coming), it would help lessen grind?

we all grind because TS is only shown a day before it comes, so people either have to grind in preparation or grind in the small window of time they have when TS arrives.

if we had more time to know which TS was arriving, we could relax and plan around it.

what dyou guys think of this :O

strong canopy
stiff dust
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I believe it's okay if veterans will eventually quit the game. I don't think this game was originally designed like other games so the players can just keep playing it. Sky is completely different

spice thunder
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People saying veterans are gonna quit bc they have nothing to do — I’m in a server with a whole bunch of veterans that quit because all there is to do is grind every day forever and do the same quests ad nauseam till you die.
@blazing sail
Adding overpriced tiers is gonna solve that? Cuz just doing a few missions and enjoying the game sounds way better than farming all maps and burning urself out for hearts

tired fox
blazing sail
silent lily
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"they need to make money" isn't an excuse. They are a company, a business, hence , they actually have to make money and not give everything to evryone for free
Again, I'm not defending them, neither is this what I want, it's me saying that they're a company too

fleet falcon
spice thunder
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That’s my point. The game should require less of a grind. I don’t know why you keep asking for more grind while also saying it’s too grindy.
@blazing sail
Oh wait I think we're on the same team hereSkyLOL

strong canopy
silent lily
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Same I'm there too with u, but i dont think anything is gonaa happen to fix that

blazing sail
spice thunder
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I believe it's okay if veterans will eventually quit the game. I don't think this game was originally designed like other games so the players can just keep playing it. Sky is completely different
@stiff dust
YESSSSS! Yes and the game is sooo good when u don't have to worry about candles

tender oasis
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My mind is broken, I’m agreeing with everyone pFIRE
It’s repetitive, if you do the same thing for months it gets boring. I was very very relieved when I finally finished all my constellation, and i didn’t felt the need to collect every single day, and I could just send hearts to whoever I want to without making them feel they need to give it back. I’m glad we have long term goals, but they are based on the same mechanics as the the regular constellations. Grind and trade and do notes.
sqwarlockDed

strong canopy
steady pond
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lots of comments under TS announcements are how people spent candles on regular constellation items and regret it, which honestly shouldnt happen!

people shouldnt regret spending candles on constellation, so maybe having TS announcements at the start of every month that shows the spirits who are coming would help players plan around it a lot easier

spice thunder
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No, I’m with you. I don’t like this idea of adding cosmetics just to keep people coming back every day for their candles. It’s not wholesome at all.
@blazing sail
YESS YESS YESS we're on the same train sorry for the friendly fire on another note have you guys all given feedback so tgc doesn't bring it to live?

fleet falcon
tired fox
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Honestly, speaking as a year-old player here, I have almost every cosmetic and barely even candle run anymore. It has no purpose. The game is still appealing for its social aspect, just to hang out with people, playing music or just enjoying the scenery

stiff dust
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You can always help moths and play some music. I eventually realized that having all the cosmetics is just not that important. I finished all constellations and it did not make me as happy as I thought I would

blazing sail
spice thunder
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when are you not worrying about candles lol?
@strong canopy
When u have enough candles for all ts and only need seasonal ones

silent lily
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Tbh, when i was new, and didn't knew there is this farming for candles things for at least 2 weeks. I enjoyed it alot more since there was no worry like "omg it's reset i forgot to do QUESTS" "omg omg 1 hour left i still have to farm valley, prarie, Vault, Forest"

low kindle
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🌞

stiff dust
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Same, I just ran around the maps and discovered a lot of new things with my other moth friend

spice thunder
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Are we all agreeeing that the new tiers are not necessary?

strong canopy
tired fox
silent lily
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I CAN THO, SINCE I HAVE 30

kindred fossil
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veterans are having a mid-life crisis, reminiscing on the days where they just walked around and honked

steady pond
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lol hello dark welcome to the chaos

low kindle
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we dont need new tiers we need new ultimate elder//endgame gifts

fleet falcon
blazing sail
placid linden
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These capes don’t have to be final design or price....this is beta after all, don’t forget this. Please send constructive and polite criticism to beta feedback

silent lily
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@low kindle and we don't want them to be ridiculously priced like 883838382hearts or 6363AC

spice thunder
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Omg yessss everyone pls give feedback I thought I was alone on this opinion , I really don't want new tiers and side note I'm almost at 100 candle 850 now

tender oasis
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I may sound very very evil or something but I don’t think these capes should be visible on the trees until you complete the constellation. Also shouldn’t be visible to friends who didn’t completed the same constellation yet if you wear your own. I just don’t like people using cosmetics for flexing, and making others who started later feel bad. And if u see another person with the cape besides yourself you will know its a vet. SkyShrug

blazing sail
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I mean, I’m basically just asking for a game not to demand my fealty for life. That’s all.

tired fox
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The point of ts is also that they repeat. There should be no pressure to grind like crazy people to get something that will return pCry

spice thunder
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I may sound very very evil or something but I don’t think these capes should be visible on the trees until you complete the constellation. Also shouldn’t be visible to friends who didn’t completed the same constellation yet if you wear your own. I just don’t like people using cosmetics for flexing, and making others who started later feel bad. And if u see another person with the cape besides yourself you will know its a vet. SkyShrug
@tender oasis
I kinda agree and disagree with that I don't want the new. Tiers at all

silent lily
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You know, if you ask. Me, for the new capes, i would pay 5-10 hearts more than the original price, not anymore than that

strong canopy
kindred fossil
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it's just the elder hair but silver, now pay up 100 AC

silent lily
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Hmm, idrk, I'm scared that even if we get new elder gifts, they'll also be priced ridiculously

steady pond
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tbh id be willing to pay 150 hearts for valley twin paddle thing they hold in the cutscenes if it means i can use it to row boats or wack griefers (joke)

jaunty bramble
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Wait but if they add it doesn’t mean u have to get them if you don’t want to pFIRE

tranquil mortar
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SkyLOL I just wanted to save for forest elder in beta,,

spice thunder
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@blazing sail I just realized I use ur website for candle cake locations

strong canopy
thorn cradle
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i think bringing back seasons isn’t going to be as glamorous as people think, especially a season like gratitude & lightseekers, the current seasons brought with them new areas to explore & new game mechanics, whereas those seasons in particular where cool when they came out since they were different from the day to day sky but at the end of the day they were just news spirits in different spots you relived once,, i’m not against season’s repeating in some capacity, but i want to be a bit realistic about the idea

blazing sail
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Sky redefined the word “gift” 😬

fleet falcon
# tired fox The point of ts is also that they _repeat_. There should be no pressure to grind...

exactly...but I made the math one day, lets say that no TS repeat themselves, if I don't buy the current season adventure pass it could take up to 7 to 9 months for me to get every single spirit from the current season to comeback, so it forces you to think: should I farm like crazy now and get the items from this TS now or wait 7~9 months for it to comeback again? would I be playing Sky in 7~9 months?

silent lily
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In sky we have "gifts" that you can buy for yourself, a very unique thing indeed

spice thunder
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Wait but if they add it doesn’t mean u have to get them if you don’t want to pFIRE
@jaunty bramble
U don't understand my pain sqwarlockDed how much i really don't want new tiers

tender oasis
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Sky: traders of heartspFIRE

silent lily
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More like Sky: beggers of hearts

fleet falcon
steady pond
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now i think announcing TS at the start of the month would just ease a lot of peoples anxiety over whos gonna come lol.

im putting this into feedback, i rly think knowing the TS that arrives 2 weeks earlier instead of the day before is alot healthier for players

strong canopy
steady pond
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plus the more seasons we have, the lower the chance of getting X spirit.... 🥲

silent lily
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Yeah, they should announce the ts on the day they post the monthly ts date chart.

spice thunder
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Poll time?
pFIRE for no new tiers
oreoheart for new 600+ heart tiers

willow sage
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The thing is that owning cosmetics is a big part of the game. in a season, if there is no cosmetics, what’s left aside from the emotes and the story?(this is a lot already but yk everyone wants the cosmetics) I think what people want to say here is that, cosmetics being a part of the game, it’s not about choosing to get them or not. Once you’ve completed all the realms once, If you don’t want any cosmetics then there’s nothing left to do in the game except chilling with your friends. So if TGC gives a short amount of time in the seasons etc, it can make the players actually feel pressured and it encourages players to always do CR etc.
Aside from that, I think the new capes are cool because, it’s a way for old players to have a new thing to look forward to, and the seasons of course.
But having the same quests everyday/week/MONTH is what is a little boring

strong canopy
silent lily
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What benefits it'll have?
1.we can plan to farm accordingly
2.noone will skip Their night's sleep just to know what ts it is♥️

tired fox
steady pond
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omg wolf you bring up a good point lol. people really do stay up to ungodly hours just for a TS announcement that would potentially disappoint them

strong canopy
fleet falcon
spark lance
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600 hearts its like.. almost complete all constelations again

silent lily
spice thunder
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600 hearts is like, a year of going around annoying friends
@tired fox
Yes I rlly don't want to> 600 hearts its like.. almost complete all constelations again
@spark lance
Yes 636 for all cosmetics rn

steady pond
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SCREW IT!! lets bring back that one bug in beta that put all the seasonal spirits in orbit. except this time its not a bug its a feature (joke)

low kindle
tired fox
strong canopy
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completing the base game is 576 hearts, 636 candles and 75 AC
these new items cost 729 hearts and 75 AC
lol

south geyser
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I guess theres just this dilemma for players regarding the game: they dont wanna grind yet they want to get the cosmetics.

  • not everyone can do the “if you dont want it, quit it”. The cosmetics provides a certain incentive for people to stay, because theyre cool. You can say that friends are important, but achievements ingame are also a motivation, since:
  • people play with different reasons. I have been on sky since the android launch. But im not particularly into playing with friends. If i find friends here i'd just rather chat w them on some other platform. Sky is a place of oobs, tricks, and well,, cosmetics, really.
  • yes im starting to get tired of the grinding. I used to adore this game for its intricate lores and worldbuilding and emotes and cosmetics but my attitude kinda... altered.
  • if you have played journey you'd see its stunning similarities w sky. But the intrinsic design of sky has made it a lesser experience. I have only played through journey once and im all mesmerized by its emotional appeal to me and its overall beauty. Sky did include a whole new level of details and stuff we could do but some aspects, e.g. the presence of grinding and chat, actually, diminished the importance of those wordless companionships we form along the way. There are texts in sky, and, sometimes we start to get distracted.

And imo:

  • it's ok they add new tiers, but pricing it 3x the og price is a little.. eh
spice thunder
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Ok so everyone don't forget to give ur feedback because i Don't think the best way to make playing sky interesting for veterans is to make them grind for months again

spark lance
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i was expect the elders pants, not faded capes

strong canopy
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IDC BRING ME THE GW ELDER SHIEEEEELD

kindred fossil
blazing sail
strong canopy
fleet falcon
kindred fossil
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expect all you want, but not too far beyond their scope. a jetpack will never be added 😢💔

fleet falcon
thorn cradle
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tgc could have added items like a butterfly pot that recharges you for a bit to the constellations since they don’t want to make items that give advantages iaps, but it would set an almost unrealistic goal for players starting out with some knowledge of the game (but still moths) to make it worth more hearts then say the chat table

spice thunder
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No it’s cemented for me that this game will never be what I need to to be so after this season I’m done.
@blazing sail
Pain dude pure pain I never want to grind again the joy of having everything and playing for fun not currency so much better

rapid terrace
humble bolt
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tbh, I do knew there were new pattered capes, but I was expecting it to be the old beta desings, since many people were asking for, but just for a black thing on the bottom it's not worth the triple the price

blazing sail
placid linden
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These capes don’t have to be final design or price....this is beta after all, don’t forget this. Please send constructive and polite criticism to beta feedback

tired fox
kindred fossil
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it's almost near final, and i already said what i had to say

placid linden
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Beta is never final and even live isn’t final

fleet falcon
lusty light
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Who said that these designs are almost near final 🤔

silent lily
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2nd ultimate reward ideas
•Isle- staff of the isle elder,
°when used, it'll call birds near you so that you can recharge
°itll have a long cooldown
•prairie- butterfly pot
°when used , it'll release butterfly so that you can recharge and have fun
°it won't have a cooldown but you'll have to fill it again by taking it to an area with butterflies after 3 uses
•forest- hammer and anvil
°a rather unique instrument :0
°the sound will be very cool ans metallic and it'll be a 15 key instrument
•valley- bats and ball
°you can play a minigame with your friend, hit the ball
°i really haven't thought how it'll work, but sort of like the twins play in the cutscene
•wasteland- krill shield
°will protect you and your (moth) friends from a krill danger. Though when used 5 times, it'll be damaged and you have to get it repaired for some Ascended candles
•vault- chat mat
°a floating mat with a vault memory lantern in between
°very much like the bornfire, just much cooler
°8 players can sit
°recharging speed is much quicker than bonfire

lusty light
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You guys forget the invisible cape has been in beta for like a literal year at this point

steady pond
lusty light
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We have no clue when these items will go live or how it will look when it’s ready

spice thunder
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Yup, but I can see they’re catering to the folks who like to spend their lives grinding.
@blazing sail
I can't grind again , sky feels like a job sometimes when u worry about candles

silent lily
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Ktjn said that "the design is near final but everything is subject to change in beta"
Correct me of I'm wrong

spark lance
kindred fossil
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well likely close to final is what ktjn said out of context, but still i don't expect dramatic changes

placid linden
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People just panic a lot it seems...Be grateful for new content and ideas, have mature thoughts and write criticisms...it’s the best we can do. We’re lucky to have devs who actually listen and want feedback.

lusty light
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Either way it’s no reason to not give feedback on the designs

stuck willow
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Hmm they said the 11 lvl will enter as a 3d model but its not so...?

thorn cradle
kindred fossil
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i already did, twice, and hopefully everyone else in the discussion did already

lusty light
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I mean,,, they’ve changed the design of the enchantment ultimate reward after it went live

lusty light
placid linden
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Exactly, even live isn’t final...

kindred fossil
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right

blazing sail
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Imagine if the new capes were a reward for getting the 11th star instead of grinding endlessly.

silent lily
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Even things like fixes for trials and new changes in caves of proehceies came after it was already in live

strong canopy
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ahahzhahzha go grab your black cape for only 300 wings

lusty light
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The capes are supposed to be for the ppl who have nothing to spend but have over 1000 hearts tho right? And it’s not like u need the capes they’re not going anywhere

simple bobcat
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Isn't the goal of the fact that it is just lining on the capes and not fancy items so that you don't necessarily feel like you absolutely need them? I mean, you don't need them to get the elder hairs... I think it's a better long term goal you dont have to feel like you need to grind like crazy for necessarily

steady pond
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(banging hands on my desk) V2 table that seats 8 people instead of 4 so you can recreate the last supper in sky

empty river
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its not like you need to buy the capes to get elder hair either, youre not meant to grind out for two days and get those items

strong canopy
humble bolt
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the only thing that I don't like about the new capes are the prices, at least they should be like 10 or 20 hearts more, or just double the price, but triple it's a lot

blazing sail
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You can say that as much as you want but you know people are grinding for them. I just wish people would stop pretending that the game isn’t encouraging bad behavior by adding these things. People who log in just to hang out with their friends and fly around shouldn’t be bothered by an accumulation of currency they have no use for.

kindred fossil
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literally i know i'm not supposed to, and i'm not going to, i'll only be buying a few capes if the current design persists, and it's probably just me, but "just don't buy it" isn't really a strong argument

lusty light
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I mean it is kinda annoying to have a bunch of hearts you can’t use, ppl I know straight up reject hearts now

humble bolt
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what about those who never get to 100 hearts

steady pond
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"if you dont like it dont do it" doesnt address the core of the issue, so i rly hope through feedback something can happen. definitely wont be anytime soon for big changes to take place though

spice thunder
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Ok I'ma be honest here what would make the game more interesting for vets is more stuff like trials which are super nice and not make them grind again and idk why u guys are saying it Should be a better cosmetic in my opinion it Shouldn't be there at all, tgc never ceases to amaze us with with amazing cosmetics every season

kindred fossil
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i do too, my hearts are stacking up in live, i'm more than happy to have something to spend them on, but still

steady pond
livid ice
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Maybe one day there would be an option to gift for free the hearts we have already , would be nice

spice thunder
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I mean it is kinda annoying to have a bunch of hearts you can’t use, ppl I know straight up reject hearts now
@lusty light
When was rejecting hearts a bad thing

worn field
# strong canopy the price isnt a problem. its how not worth their prices they actually are. imo ...

i wonder if you've seen the most recent pinned message? specifically, this part:

Currency costs associated with items has little to nothing to do with the complexity or fanciness of the items. Some of the simplest items in the game take a long time and a lot of effort to obtain.

The new capes are inspired by the pre-global launch capes, but are intentionally simplified for performance reasons. The team doesn't want them to be fanciful. They are a symbol of being kind to others and building long term friendships.
-Ktjn

kindred fossil
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i've seen it a hundred times

spice thunder
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i do too, my hearts are stacking up in live, i'm more than happy to have something to spend them on, but still
@kindred fossil
Yea who would be unhappy to be stacked with hearts lol

tender oasis
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I do reject them, and I always say them to use there candles to give hearts to ppl who still needs them.

random gull
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I had been rejecting hearts until these came <_<; I had literally 26 hearts sitting in my constellation uncollected because I didn't have anything I wanted to spend them on. And I haven't really bought much of anything in beta personally.

silent lily
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Yeah, but i dont really agree, i think cost should effect the fanciness of the item to at least make it feel worth the grinding

humble bolt
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but why were the pre global capes causing performance issues?

blazing sail
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It’s an endless cycle.

spice thunder
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I do reject them, and I always say them to use there candles to give hearts to ppl who still needs them.
@tender oasis
Giving free hearts to people and see them be happy is a blissful experience

lusty light
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The game is very intensive even now, the performance of the game was way worse in beta

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You would crash for looking at the game wrong

steady pond
lusty light
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The cape patterns in pre launch were also not a static texture on the cape and would break often

empty river
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i agree with focusing more on in game challenges instead of cosmetics but adding more cosmetics for in game currency instead of seasons only is also something people have been asking for for the longest time, tho yea it could still use some polishment which hey! what better place than beta to add things that are not final and that could use some polishment?

spice thunder
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i wonder if you've seen the most recent pinned message? specifically, this part:
-Ktjn
Again seasons Provide us with many amazing cosmetics I don't get the point of this

humble bolt
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and so, it should be a static texture on the cape

silent lily
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It's true that Everyone asked for new normal currency Cosmetics, but not everyone asked for 9 same capes with coloured edges that cost 70-150 at average

strong canopy
lusty light
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I mean it’s like how people complain about season ultimate rewards when base game ultimate rewards are just hair

steady pond
lusty light
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Tgc can’t please anyone, so many people send in feedback everyday and they can’t listen to everyone

strong canopy
empty river
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yea it can seem your feedback gets ignored when theres thousands of beta players and millions of live players that can have different opinions than you do

fleet falcon
lusty light
tender oasis
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I would prefer something like loyality currency. U logged on did your daily or something, you get a loyality candle. U have 20 of those u can get yellow new cape etc. Something which is not dependent of friend number and grinding.

blazing sail
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I have hearts accumulated just through natural play and I wouldn’t mind little things here and there to spend on, but these hugely expensive items just pressure people to grind. Whether or not it does that to you personally, you can’t deny it has that effect on a lot of people.

hasty vessel
#

it’s 100 percent the design that is the problem and the blatant lack of failing to introduce an ultimate reward for completing the current constellation. there is no acknowledgement of an existing achievement and what it feels like instead is that the team have thrown on some extra items for all the long term players who have currency to essentially ‘waste’ i’d rather have items that were worth it, these are definitely not

rugged pivot
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Guys, beta is mainly to test the performance of the game with the added new items. We are basically just bug hunters here. To suggest something like designs is the least of our job description. We can give feedbacks and let them know our wish-lists, but the final decision, the designs, the systems belongs to them.

spice thunder
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I know that mods have to support tgcs desicions so I'ma go take a breather and keep my fingers crossed that I can play sky as a game and not for farming candles everyday like a job

silent lily
#

The only problem in this new thing is the cape design (which i hope is revamped) and the extreme ridiculousness of the cost.

lusty light
#

I don’t have to support tgc decisions they don’t pay me agony

livid ice
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lol lol

tired fox
lusty light
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It’s said in the rules we are volunteers... what did u expect

strong canopy
gleaming yacht
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euhm... if we're supposed to sit here and consent to everything they introduce what is our purpose

sullen relic
# lusty light Have u seen the gnomon stream on how they made the environment 👁

i've seen the gnomon stream myself, and the main thing i took away from it is that TGC's engine and approach to optimising seems radically different to what i expect of other popular game engines with how they're willing to up vertex counts while simplifying textures -- it's completely counterintuitive to what i would've thought was the case when using Unity as a comparison stickerShock

empty river
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doesnt mean you shouldnt give feedback on designs, lets take for example the butterfly cape and the manta cape. The butterfly cape got changed a bit because of player feedback, while manta cape didnt get changed as much if not at all because of limitations, even tho some players wanted it to be more intricate

livid ice
# livid ice lol lol

I think is a good idea to add higher cost capes , and even more the capes a lot of players wanted , the first capes ever , || still waiting for the new aviary also ||

silent lily
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But they could've done at least something to the manta Cape, at least somthing, after so so so much feedback, but they didn't

lusty light
#

They didn’t because they couldn’t

empty river
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i literally said there were limitations lol

silent lily
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They could've made the borders have a well designed edge
Noone asked for a huge manta Cape, we just asked for one that doesn't look unfinished

timber ridge
#

I thought the new capes were just an update of the basic design to give room to the extra wings 😂😂😂

gleaming yacht
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the only thing that irritates me is the fact that the design is almost finalized when it hasn't been in the beta for more than 24 hours. If this doesn't underestimate the testers, then I have no words

lusty light
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We don’t know what almost final means though

timid basalt
#

would sticking an image that looks like the beta sky capes to the capes we have still cause performance issues? (if that even is possible)

kindred fossil
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most likely almost finalized, but i don't expect quick changes in 24 hours either

silent lily
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Yeah , the cape rigging just didn't allow it to be bigger than what it is.
And no one actually wanted a bigger cape, just a finsihed one as i said Before

lusty light
#

And again, they changed the “final” design of items in the game many times

random gull
#

I feel like a lot of this conversation has crossed the line from "here's my feedback and constructive criticism I hope it helps make the game better" to "I should have stake in the final decisions of this game because I beta test" pain our feedback is important but we won't always influence the final decisions. Anyone who's been around long enough would remember how hated the rhythm ultimate hair was but now look at how much people want it. and look at butterfly cape. we did influence that change!

kindred fossil
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:optimistic: 🌈

lusty light
#

Many people asked for a bigger cape with cuts and a separate pair of wings on it

stark sundial
#

so people don't want the base game to be expanded or what? :v I don't get these arguments, although I agree that the game in various cases needs to defend players from themselves I also think sky does it a lot already, the game needs expansion to the base experience, I was already expecting just a new "design" extra for the base capes, I think they are not worth it :v so I won't buy any new item, maybe the prices is the only things that should change and get cheaper
also I won't be getting 11wedges for my earth day cape (just disappointed :()

lusty light
#

Wait capes with special stars don’t have an 11th wing design? :0

tired fox
#

Let’s talk about the fact that apparently all the capes have a silver border except the purple one, which has a blue one. That is bugging me to no end, I can’t be the only one?

empty river
#

i think they do sera

silent lily
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They do

kindred fossil
#

special capes have their 11th designs

vapid drum
#

The earth cape has got 11 wingexrra leaf

hexed quail
#

they all have

lusty light
#

Oh I just misunderstood zeryle then

hexed quail
silent lily
#

Yeah, maybe the silver borders are gonna be changed.
And i hope that they're gonna be cause the purple is the only one i like, but that still doesn't justify the cost.

timber ridge
#

You´re always complaining. Those capes should cost 3257253287532041 hearts. Grind more, complain less.

kindred fossil
stark sundial
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yeah but earth day cape is just disappointing for me :v so I wont be getting 150 just for that little change... I think is the tiniest change to a wedge

gleaming yacht
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I am not expecting quick changes either of course, but I'm at least expecting a more epxerimental treatment of the capes for now... It makes me feel like I don't matter as a tester and my opinion will not change anything. Declaring that the design is final before it even has feedback isn't the most efficient testing method imo. Of course I'm not opposed to TGC, I appreciate their efforts but some items really need a re-design

silent lily
#

What?@stark sundial

hasty vessel
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heh? the 11th wedge has no special difference than the 6th wedge, it’s just a design difference...

tired fox
lusty light
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It’s hidden until you meet the requirements to buy it

random gull
#

I'm still at whatever I was reborn with on live plus wasteland because I got an uber crylaughLOLOLOL I could have 150 but that involves collecting them

silent lily
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Earth day cape doens't cost 150 hearts, it'll get that design when you collect 150 wing lights for FREE

strong canopy
empty river
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where does it say the designs are final and no, saying theyre semifinal doesnt not equal to the design being completely finalized

tired fox
lusty light
silent lily
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But the patch notes said that it's still in development , that's why
I'm sure you're joking

gleaming yacht
#

Can we all settle on the fact that we dislike the design, for most, and focus on bugs

stark sundial
#

@silent lily when I said 150 hearts? I think everyone knows that I referred to 150 wl, wich is also time consuming :v

strong canopy
kindred fossil
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but it said until it's finalized, not meeting certain requirements

silent lily
#

Getting 150 wl is 3928383873733883×10^34 times easier than getting 150 hearts

gleaming yacht
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@stark sundial if the game itself is time consuming to you then I don't understand how anything will please you

random gull
#

I do Sera! that's how I knew I could get back on withotu crashing every 10 seconds. and I definitely went through several realms this morning with an ios friend and had them spam beep a lot. no crash sConfetti

lusty light
#

I’m just teasing lol

lethal zinc
#

Why is everyone complaining about these amazing new capes, I’m just happy to have something new added to the base cosmetics🤩

kindred fossil
#

right

random gull
#

I mean a lot of people don't read them so you're not entirely wrong sLaugh

empty river
#

still good that they read beta-updates, heres your gold star kai SkyGiveLight🌟

strong canopy
#

@frozen marsh did you complete every constellation?

kindred fossil
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they're alright, could be slightly improved, that's all what i've been trying to say

silent lily
#

There's a rumor that mods are told secrets about the game by devs through handwritten letters

stark sundial
#

what are you guys talking about? literally I just give my opinion why you keep responding in that way lmao :v @gleaming yacht @silent lily even collecting 150 wl for that change is disappointing for me and I already said I won't be getting that amount for that

strong canopy
# frozen marsh yes i did

do you see the black and white cape anywhere?? i only understood you got them when the null nodes were available

kindred fossil
#

there's a rumor that seraph is the TGC building

random gull
#

lol wolf crylaughLOLOLOL the mods are just normal players like the rest of us. they basically only get warnings when the server is going to descend into chaos so they can be ready

hasty vessel
#

just to put the design into perspective for everyone, if you had 0 currency in live right now, would you farm everyday for the current capes designs?

empty river
#

theres a rumor theyre a 40-eyed creature, im sure its true cos its a rumor

lusty light
#

Lol imagine handing over letters to all of us mods personally, ash is swimming over oceans to reach some of us

tender oasis
#

Nowadays these updates are like bombs💥 Sanctuary testing was indeed a vacation in beta chat. 🌴

random gull
#

I could see Ash being that chaotic though sLaugh

silent lily
#

Yeah, they set the chats on fire

kindred fossil
#

i... don't recall it being lively during beta testing for sanctuary

frozen marsh
stark sundial
#

also btw if someone compare rightfully getting 150 hearts to getting 150 wl with the current amount it took players more than 9 months for 150 wl lmao, in that time I completed all the constellations :v

tender oasis
#

Cause it wasn'tSkyLOL i could easily read back what happened in 5 mins. Now its like 15pFIRE SkyLOL

silent lily
#

Yeah, devs swimming through the Pacific just to deliver a letter saying 'hello'

frozen marsh
#

the spirits whick hv black cape and white cape each

spark lance
#

Idk how i feel about the veteran capes

lusty light
#

Yeah there’s a slow drip for winged light but there’s no limit to the amount of hearts you can get

random gull
#

Dark it wasn't. Sanctuary was actually really chill for testing in general once the invite wave hype died. the updates and such didn't get nearly as chaotic

frozen marsh
#

*which

silent lily
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Sanctuary was one of the buggiest Seasons tho

timber ridge
lusty light
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That’s why my name is seraph

random gull
#

actually beta enchantment was mostly chill too except for when the null item thing happened sLaugh

lusty light
#

Have you seen the art moss has drawn of me

silent lily
#

The propehcy was one of the least buggy season imo.
Everything, the Cosmetics, constellation, area, trails, was ready with minimal bugs on the First day

timber ridge
hasty vessel
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fireboi was missing for ages what are you on about?

gilded parrotBOT
#

Anyone have a good SkyLogo joke?

dim tapir
silent lily
#

Even skybot is tired

gilded parrotBOT
#

I don't know if they're watching tho...

spark lance
#

Skybot are you ok stickerHeart

silent lily
#

That was because the Season wasn't even supposed to come on that day.

Omg skybot, i hope the devs are lurking

valid terrace
#

Remember what happened to Sanctuary once Prophecy released though

tender oasis
#

Sanctuary became a lonely landsqwarlockDed

random gull
#

Nil that actually wasn't the first day of the season technically if ou're talking about floor is lava bug crylaughLOLOLOL the game was on a timer to start and there was no code for the season yet so it did a generic intro and then crashed because there was nothing to show after intro

spice thunder
#

I am back from my break

stark sundial
#

Dwayne Johnson pSquint

spark lance
#

I vote for a Sanctuary party 🎉

silent lily
#

Yeah, maybe they were late to push the update Before the timer went boom

hollow compass
#

this chat truly is a wild ride today

rugged pivot
#

If not for the cakes and wax, Sanctuary will be an abandon island.

lusty light
#

I FOUND IT

gilded parrotBOT
#

why does nobody ask for me? pWeep

silent lily
#

It's fun too, i love debaty interesting discussions like this

spark lance
#

Poor Skybot wants attention today

gilded parrotBOT
#

I'm watching you, @spice thunder pSquint

strong canopy
dim tapir
#

that's at least 2 eyes you got there SeraphSkyLOL

hexed quail
random gull
tender oasis
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Seraph needs new capes with holes for their many eyes

frozen marsh
silent lily
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And masks with holes

tropic radish
hexed quail
spice thunder
#

I'm watching you, @spice thunder pSquint
@gilded parrot
Movie time?pPopcorn

silent lily
#

Yeah, the people who bought them Before the update have them in the closet

strong canopy
#

but the other dude said you can get to see them if you meet the requirements

lusty light
#

I just want the eden crown ngl powercry2_s

frozen marsh
lusty light
#

One day....

silent lily
#

But You'll have to give 9999 Ascended Candles

tender oasis
#

A few thousand hearts and u may get it one daySkyShrug stickerHeart

lusty light
#

I’d cry and then I’d invent a time machine

hasty vessel
#

farming for and trading hearts requires a lot of effort compared to entering a season. comparing the new cape designs to any of the cape designs in past and present seasons it feels like the team is telling us that they value our money over our time and effort SkyShrug

empty river
#

i would steal your time machine and then steal the crown

spice thunder
#

i would steal your time machine and then steal the crown
@empty river
Big brain

lusty light
#

I actually did some math on ascended candles bc I was thinking what if the invisible cape cost ascended candles instead of hearts and 999 candles was like..... 2 years

hollow compass
lusty light
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Of ONLY doing eden every week and not spending on anything else

random gull
#

guess I better start doing eden again pEyes

dim tapir
#

considering the Anubis mask has somewhat of an halo i'm hoping we can get something similar to the crownpCry

lusty light
#

Wait I’m gonna make a meme

silent lily
#

Imagine sera invented a time Machine and got famous and won a noble prize

spice thunder
#

guess I better start doing eden again pEyes
@random gull
What if it doesn't make it to live lot of people are against it

empty river
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maybe if they implement more items for ascended candles they could rise the amount you can get in a week

tender oasis
#

And it takes forever to die now with so many wingsSkyLOL

hollow compass
#

I don't think "a lot of people" being against the new capes would stop TGC, if this is what they have planned. Besides, this server isn't that big a part of the whole amount of people playing the game.

silent lily
#

Okay , but what about those veterans who have been spending all their 1000s of earned candles by sending hearts non stop to Everyone and now have 0SkyLOL

random gull
#

Pumpkin I was joking sLaugh I literally can't solo sky right now for health reasons and getting an uber is hard because my friends run one realm and we sit at the end goofing off for 4 hours

runic path
hollow compass
silent lily
#

Alsoz i hope if more elder ultimates come, they don't cost more than 100 AC

timber ridge
#

The more I play Sky, the more the beta discussion channel is my favourite part of the game. Maybe they should add a shop in here.

strong canopy
spice thunder
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Pumpkin I was joking :sLaugh: I literally can't solo sky right now for health reasons and getting an uber is hard because my friends run one realm and we sit at the end goofing off for 4 hours
@random gull
Sorry I'm a lil on the edge eeeek😬

tender oasis
#

@runic path Actually not really. I started watching netflix when i tried to become capeless cause it was so slow.sqwarlockDed

spice thunder
#

Im doing this 7 wings for 7 weeks thing and I'm getting a lot faster and I use wings smarter

silent lily
#

Beta discussion and lore discussion are my faves
Tho lore channel is a bit intimidating due to some people forcing their theories and proving others wrong

empty river
#

they shouldnt be doing that at all, if you see that please report it omg

hollow compass
#

I never dare to enter lore, because my memory is like a sieve and I keep mixing things up.

spark lance
#

It’s probably been answered but are the new black and white capes missing? I don’t see them at all in my closet lol

spice thunder
#

what is that?
@strong canopy
Exactly what it says only 7 wedges for 7 weeks

#

Looks like I killed the chat

kindred fossil
#

@spark lance they're hidden

random gull
#

nah it's good to let beta chat rest a bit sLaugh

spice thunder
#

Lot of angry sky kiddos with different opinions

hollow compass
#

It's really nice when everyone stops screaming at each other.

stark sundial
#

so... people want the items to cost less?

also the new black and white have new wedge designs? :v maybe more capes should have it

strong canopy
spice thunder
#

so... people want the items to cost less?

also the new black and white have new wedge designs? :v maybe more capes should have it
@stark sundial
I don't want new tiers at all seasons give us new cosmetics and they are more than enough

hollow compass
#

I'm trying to write product specs (for work), but I'm really thinking about getting those last wl in Wasteland and then doing the trials, so I can get 15 wings. 😮

lusty light
#

I’m back with my meme

spice thunder
#

Masterpiece

tropic radish
#

I've been sticking with 6 wedges ( 9 wedges when I want to Eden ) and I've better accuracy with my flying now pAww
Like l, 11 wedges is cool and all, but I'm just striving for efficiency as of now till I can get it

empty river
#

thanks for the meme

hollow compass
#

The Eden crown used to be forbidden here on the server... 666

spark lance
#

I’m the type of flyer that runs out of power with 11 wedges frequently 💀

strong canopy
#

mushrooms made my flying skills 😅

spark lance
#

I learned my table tricks with mushrooms 🍄😂

stark sundial
#

I get use to play with 6 and now with 7 I have more than enough

empty river
#

if you talk about it as the item that appeared in some promotional content its ok >_>

lusty light
#

It’s only forbidden if you’re talking about anything that’s not the image that tgc has made public for promotional images 👁

silent lily
#

Eden crown might be the ultimate for completing all Constellations.
And let's pray that it will be added i that way soon
And also that it's not priced at 999AC

hollow compass
#

I know, it's ok. stickerShiny

strong canopy
#

you can solo eden in less than 2min with 5 wedges so anything above is luxury

silent lily
#

2 mins ? Jskxkkksmskakakkd
Skskskskskxs

spice thunder
#

POV ur the traveling spirit

tender oasis
#

Not the ascending part tho

empty river
#

the crown also appeared in a video posted by ign i think 👁️👁️

hollow compass
#

There is currently no ultimate for completing all constellations. The Eden crown was presumed to be that, but it never made it into the game, as far as I know.

silent lily
#

But the fact is that who'll give/sell the crown? The king/prince is not there to be saved now so unlikely to make an appearance

spark lance
#

I want a crown 👑 👀

lusty light
#

Yeah it’s the same image but in a different aspect ratio but I can’t find it rn blobcry

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The image I used was from a tweet announcing server maintenance

hollow compass
#

That's even more funny, somehow.

silent lily
#

It's also thr thumbnail of the ign vid

#

I can't send photos here like u guys can tho🗿😂

lusty light
#

Mod abooz

empty river
#

pls demot

silent lily
thin shell
#

What's happening pSkyPeek

random gull
#

mod shenanigans after the chat calmed down a bit from the update sLaugh

kindred fossil
#

the official chinese server website has some promotional images of it too

austere merlin
kindred fossil
#

also one of those images show a cosmetic i've never seen before

lusty light
#

Yeah the Chinese server has some cosmetics that we don’t, such as the Chinese kizuna ai collab

kindred fossil
#

not those, screenshots from old beta

strong canopy
#

the red flower is cute

lusty light
#

That flower was for a Chinese holiday I forgot the name of

kindred fossil
#

i will post the screenshots in a bit

random gull
#

national day I think. or at least that's what it translated to on my app

austere merlin
#

Thank you cause I cannot find them

hollow compass
#

Not sure they ever had a beta in China.

lusty light
#

They did, some of my Chinese friends told me about it but they were timed stress tests

hollow compass
#

Oh, wow! Interesting!

brazen kite
#

I found the idea of ripped apart capes unnecessary and bad, I thought there would be like old ultimate gifts to be worth to spend those many hearts, hopefully it does not come to live

stark sundial
#

I'm still specting the new UI O-O

autumn elk
#

Wait whats the new capes

lusty light
#

I don’t think the capes are supposed to be ripped

#

They just have a dark border

brazen kite
#

The ones at the most above of regular spirits which cost 150 hearts

autumn elk
#

oke

silent lily
#

They aren't ripped, That's Just how the icon looks

brazen kite
#

Ripped or not, in my opinion there mustn't be regular capes again

#

Do you think they're worth to spend 150 hearts

autumn elk
#

lmao
is invis cape still 999 hearts tho?

kindred fossil
#

no, and i won't be spending 150 hearts, not with this design

silent lily
#

Does amyone know what the star pattern on founder's cape looks like?

brazen kite
south geyser
#

Doesnt the founders cape have the same stars as the normals

kindred fossil
#

the same as the regular capes... it doesn't have a unique pattern

autumn elk
silent lily
#

Oh, i saw a fake photo, just wanted to confirm😂

spark lance
#

Actually, I’d rather invisible cape to be in live version than the new capes with this design.

gleaming yacht
#

Wolfie how long have you been here-

hollow compass
#

I learnt yesterday that invisicape might end up in Live after all. There is a comment by Ktjn somewhere.

autumn elk
#

woah where?

brazen kite
#

Seasons are being repeated or they make new seasons apart from olds?

hollow compass
spark lance
#

new capes?

brazen kite
kindred fossil
hollow compass
brazen kite
spark lance
#

But what about the people who spent actual money, when they could just candle farm. Is it fair to bring back ultimate gifts? idk

kindred fossil
#

you can notice a necklace like thing-y on the red cape skykid, i've never seen this

hollow compass
brazen kite
hollow compass
spark lance
random gull
#

!patchnotes read the ones from March 9th. that mentions ultimates returning

gilded parrotBOT
brazen kite
#

They could have made them appeared for 150 hearts at least, that's what I suggested

empty river
#

ultimates arent coming back for in game currency

vagrant heart
#

Seasons will not repeat at all. Ultimate gifts have the possibility of coming back, but will not be for in game currency. They will most likely be an IAP.

short breach
#

what's an iap?

hollow compass
#

Seasonal Pendants and Ultimate Gifts will not appear on the Traveling Spirits in exchange for in-game currencies. We plan to bring these items back in another capacity but we have not settled on what that will look like or the costs associated with it.

spark lance
#

That makes more sense.

vagrant heart
brazen kite
#

They shouldn't be appeared real money in return, hopefully this doesn't happen

random gull
#

I will be throwing my wallet at bonfire for sure stickerShiny just gonna play with my beta bonfire until it comes to live

empty river
#

ultimate rewards are different than just ts items because you either needed to grind quests for a month and more OR you had to buy the seasonal candles in the shop, and that aint cheap

vagrant heart
#

They’re coming back at some point, TGC is just still working on how they will do so.

south geyser
#

Many passholders (except those getting gift passes) paid actual money to get access to the ultimate gifts, and on top of that they grind. It's reasonable if they come up as iap

prime lintel
#

as a reference, it takes about 55 days to finish Season of Prophecy if you have a pass

gilded parrotBOT
#

The prophecy??! don't trust what the Elders say!!

brazen kite
prime lintel
#

As mentioned earlier, the big difference is definitely the fact that people paid money for the pass and many feel that the ultimate gift return should reflect that

stark sundial
#

!readthepins rawr

gilded parrotBOT
#

what'ss pinss preciouss?

blazing sail
lusty light
#

Ultimate gifts aren’t going to cost in game currency

#

And they’re going to adjust ts prices

next arrow
#

tbh if season ultimates can return as IAP I doubt if anyone would still buy adventure pass in the future, unless they return with some incredibly high price (enough to let you complete a season on day one for example)

south geyser
#

Theyre gonna change stuff about ts in beta next cycle..

brazen kite
willow sage
#

Do you think the pendants or the ultimate gifts should not be brought back because they’re exclusive to the players that played at that time ? Like something to show « I was there »

spark lance
#

Oh. Guess it’s too early to make assumptions.

prime lintel
#

people were compensated if they bought the pack. For example, all purchasers of the winter musician pack received a pass for Rhythm and did not have to buy the cosmetics that were in the pack

brazen kite
empty river
#

thats 10 dollars vs the 100~ it would cost to buy out an entire season's worth of candles

vagrant heart
#

They put “high” prices on things as the cost is decided upon how much time and effort took to create the item, as they have to compensate for the time the developers and artists worked on it.

brazen kite
lusty light
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You don’t have to buy it

vagrant heart
#

They aren’t forcing you to buy it. TGC devs have to be paid, and be paid a fair amount.

prime lintel
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additionally, the price of the Days of Love swing was so high because it not only contained a pass, but the devs (or Jenova? don't remember) felt that it took people out of the immersion of Sky's aesthetic, iirc. They may have had a similar reasoning for the Halloween items

brazen kite
south geyser
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Tgc may or may not have made a mistake introducing ts, but once they allowed previously pass-exclusive items to be obtainable via grinding they have caused an irreversible change nonetheless. Perhaps making the ultimate gifts iap is one of those remaining ways to preserve the value of someones actual money

silent lily
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Spending Irl currency and sky currency is quite different

lusty light
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I mean the devs need to get paid via iap to eat just as you need your money from your job eat, you might not be able to afford it yeah but what do you want them to do

vagrant heart
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TGC has to make revenue in some way, as Sky is completely free to play. If it weren’t for these items and IAPs, that would be much more difficult.

brazen kite
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Pls don't say "you don't have to buy" nonsense anymore, if we all think like that then people don't want to buy anything, it's ok if they put labor, but not everyone is rich

prime lintel
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of course it's nice to have the ability to buy cosmetic items as IAP, but they're technically not necessary at all to play the game. the default cosmetics are perfectly nice on their own, and the seasonal cosmetics are great. however, the devs ultimately get to decide how to price things based on a lot of different factors, including how much TGC feels that the devs should be paid for their work

lusty light
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If you can’t afford to buy the items and meet your cost of living then you just don’t buy it, it’s not the devs responsibility for your financial decisions

stark sundial
# next arrow tbh if season ultimates can return as IAP I doubt if anyone would still buy adve...

the season cost around $100 if you wanna complete it in day 1, I don't think it needs to be that high since also take in account that the amount of time daily you need to complete the season is around 10 minutes, a price around $15 - $20 USD is perfect imo since the ap also gives you a lot of other advantages like arond 90-100 additional candles, getting double the items around 4 months ahead until they have the possibility for 1 spirit to return and progressively all of them, the value of the AP still enough for 10 buck imo tho

vagrant heart
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TGC puts lots of thoughts into how they price their IAPs. They make it the cheapest that they can while still making sure that the developers are getting enough money for their time and effort. It wouldn’t be fair for them to be underpaid just because we want cheaper costs.

prime lintel
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would it be great if there were more affordable options for the cosmetics? absolutely. that's what #beta-feedback is for

random gull
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the halloween IAP was about 4 hours wages for me pEyes I just did some math. the international currency conversions really aren't up to TGC so something that seems fairly cheap here can be much bigger chunk of wages eslewhere. the world's economies are all different

silent lily
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And also the most purchased IAP ie the adventure pass is quite low in price, and it has many benefits

mystic umbra
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sorry to budge in off topic, but in #beta-feedback can I post fan based ideas that people have in screenshots that I agree with as a suggestion? Or like a path to go down

lusty light
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No don’t use other people’s work for your feedback it’s rude

silent lily
autumn elk
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Like the halloween IAPs, many people thought they were overpriced, but they are a seasonal thing and you dont know if they will come back!

mellow mason
rocky swallow
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okay so... opinion on the new cape designs: i dont like them. they look pretty bland?? and pretty overpriced- pCry pCry

vagrant heart
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You have to use your own work for wishlist suggestions and or feedback.

mystic umbra
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I ment for the cape designs yes sorry!

stark sundial
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@raven cedar Can :v I ask you how you got that design in 4 wedge of do you photoshopped that? :0

autumn elk
raven cedar
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Not photoshop

stark sundial
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then how :/

raven cedar
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@stark sundial secret 👀

silent lily
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Even i think some of them are overpriced. So, i just dont buy them. It's not like i won't be allowed to play Sky if i dont buy it. I'm already grateful that this game is free and with no ads and also keep in mind that iap are their only source of income

vagrant heart
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They’re priced that way as they are a symbol of friendship and kindness. They look more simple as they can’t be their old designs due to how the game runs with them. They are a homage to the original beta of Sky.

random gull
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I am eternally grateful that sky does not have ads pain

stark sundial
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pSquint delete that please if it's the case that's not a glitch/bug @raven cedar

lusty light
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@raven cedar hacking is against the terms of service and the #rules of this server. If you post any more hacked content you will be muted at best

raven cedar
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Okay 🤷‍♂️

silent lily
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Tho I'm not quite with the new capes and it's price especially, and i think that's totally okay

radiant drum
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Being vague makes you suspicious and it's not something we allow here to avoid illegitimate means of obtaining things in the game, and i hope you all understand that. Please share your "secrets" if they are legit or we will take action against it

vagrant heart
#

Any constructive criticism can go to #beta-feedback but please, don’t just go there to complain. The developers worked hard on it, and only want to improve with your help. cEllieSkyHeart

autumn elk
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Also yall remember the cape designs are not ragged, they have a silver outline stickerHug

radiant drum
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It's alright if you only have negative things to say, and you hope this design never makes it into the game in any way. Just be kind when sharing that opinion with them

brazen kite
whole marsh
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Vita the game is free. 30-40 ish people do need some income (TGC)

lusty light
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Not everyone can afford everything and that’s ok, the devs could just make everything free but then how would they get paid

#

In the end none of these items are needed

radiant drum
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It's fine to think an item is overpriced and suggest they should change the development process so it costs less, but it's important to remember those decisions take a lot of thought and time and there are millions of other players they gather feedback and data from to make them

silent lily
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Yeah, it's not like I'm being rude in feedback or anything, i understand and I'll definately suggest what i think but ofc without rudeness

prisma swallow
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It's not even like these items impact gameplay in the slightest

vagrant heart
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The developers can’t go underpaid just because we want the items to be cheaper, that’s just not how it works.

brazen kite
whole marsh
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Please consider what has been said above.

random gull
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it's not just their paychecks though. running servers for 50 million players is not cheap

autumn elk
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Also you guys, remember that the game is free and has 0 ads (im very very very thankful for that SkyTada) and IAP is the only way they make money through the game, so without IAP we might not even have sky pCry
And this is what I know

silent lily
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You never know that @brazen kite , did they tell you their income?😂 jk , don't take it seriously

royal elbow
#

you also have to consider that TGC doesn't really have any control over the international prices. in US maybe the prices are not that expensive, but in other countries it might be much more expensive

they don't really have any control over that

small pebble
#

They also have to pay for their office, equipement, the servers, not just their personal income comes out of those IAP'a

radiant drum
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We have no means to know how they make their financial decisions. It's alright to disagree and share your thoughts in #beta-feedback/ #live-feedback

prisma swallow
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The costs involved are much larger than just the incomes of the devs and other employees. Also, it is okay to not be able to afford certain in-game items but do not get toxic over it please stickerPlease stickerHug

brazen kite
tiny umbra
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It’s super hard to follow conversation here cause of the reply feature SkyScared
I think the new designs are a little too simple to be pricing up to 90 hearts for purple cape, regardless of if they impact gameplay, it should still be worth it, I love the new designs cause they look like feathers and wouldn’t mind grinding for the green cape cause the grey suits that cape but not so much the other capes.
annnd I just realized you’re all probably talking about ultimates

brazen kite
royal elbow
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how much is it exactly? in usd

prisma swallow
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Are we talking about all IAPs btw or specific stuff?

silent lily
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If the designs were what Wintercat made, i would easily pay that much hearts

small pebble
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I'm in the USA, it is expensive, but if I like the item, then I'll buy it. But if I know I can't, then I don't, simple as that no problems 👍

random gull
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the halloween packs equaled to about $55 usd for me. that's just under 4 hours of wages for me

slim kayak
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Woah. Good morning! What did I just wake up to? pSkyPeek

whole marsh
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good morning!

tiny umbra
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The reply feature sqwarlockDed

small pebble
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Goodmorning uwu

brazen kite
radiant drum
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Maybe their reasoning isn't getting as much money as they can

small pebble
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If you have such a problem with it, then go suggest they lower their prices in #beta-feedback

autumn elk
silent lily
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It's okay, Let's keep this a beta discussion and not a financial budgeting channel, also Everyone's wage is differnet so noone really can understand what the other one feels, but it's okay for the iaps to be a bit expensive, they don't get stuff for free, they also need money to live like us

whole marsh
radiant drum
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Yeah let's talk about something we all have: hearts in game for the new items being tested in beta pSkyPeek

prisma swallow
empty river
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mirian thats debatable lol

autumn elk
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Also guys, their point is to make the game as best as possible and get as many players to enjoy the game like we do, please to put hate on tgc on something they may or may not do pCry

small pebble
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I probably could never get one of those new capes haha

lusty light
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I have like 5 hearts in beta

silent lily
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You can't be sure if i even have 1🗿

slim kayak
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Mirian, I spent my last hearts on black cape I dont have any more SkyLOL

brazen kite
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Anyway I suggest you to feedback them like me for making 150 hearts things as old ultimate gifts, if anyone agrees then I'm happy

autumn elk
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Same, i have 1 heart in beta SkyLOL

random gull
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Myx I already mentioned that TGC doesn't control international currency exchange rates and different economies are different

fossil grove
#

Are you automatically signed up.for Beta testing? Or do u have to sign up?

vagrant heart
prisma swallow
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I have 67 hearts in beta 😳

And 2 in live SkyLOL

silent lily
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Yeah, I'll definately suggest them to either revamp the design or decrease the price or both if things become too good

random gull
radiant drum
#

More like run, scream and join

vagrant heart
#

oh the anxieties of beta waves stickerCold

random gull
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I seem to make it in pretty easily every time. Guess I'm just lucky to be on when the invite goes out

prime lintel
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the whole server is on fire when the beta waves hit pFIRE
it's like a tsunami

small pebble
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When the first wave came out at 2am my time pCry

autumn elk
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Also the invis cape went down right? To 150 or-
im asking because i have a friend who completed the game and doesn’t have beta and i cant get on rn haha and she has been saving up for 999 hearts on live pCry

broken laurel
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Question: are the new capes at the outfit shrine what the new items supposed to be like?

vagrant heart
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I’ve made it in every time with no troubles, but I still get a tad anxious every time! Maybe it’s because of all of the craziness going on in chat sLaugh

stark sundial
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with the new wing buffs how much would be the wing buff count in the base game?

random gull
#

I have been waiting for some kind of excuse to use that emote thank you Wren crylaughLOLOLOL

autumn elk
vagrant heart
broken laurel
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I'm wondering if it's a good idea to let the outline of red cape to be golden xD

prisma swallow
autumn elk
prime lintel
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Val I love that emoji. It perfectly encapsulates the beta tsunami wave effects on the server pFIRE

tiny umbra
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Oooh yes different colors for the outlines would be amazing

autumn elk
vagrant heart
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The red cape with a golden trim would love fabulous! Same with the white cape!

silent lily
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Lol, if the day invites come the Chanel is on fire, idk what will happen on the day an update for AP09 comes

whole marsh
#

wait so stuff closer to the old beta capes? pPogKid

haughty sleet
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The dark blue cape with white outline

vagrant heart
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Honestly all of the capes would look awesome with a gold trim, but that’s probably because I love gold so much sLaugh stickerShiny

stark sundial
silent lily
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Keep suggesting in #beta-feedback
I'll pray for your wishes to be heard

whole marsh
small pebble
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Candle cape anyone?

silent lily
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Honestly anything except that grey edge would work for me🗿

autumn elk
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Are the new outlines capes coming to live pEyes

small pebble
#

You could light the edges of fire pFIRE

silent lily
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And burn down the PrairiepFIRE

vagrant heart
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We’re not sure Rawr. They’re only being tested right now, and have only been out for a short period of time.

stark sundial
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so there's 9 new wing buffs? stickerShiny

tiny umbra
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I have too much gold in my outfit, SkyLOL for selfish reasons id like the edges to be some shade of red

slim kayak
#

It seems like they want the new capes to go live, but anything can happen in beta

whole marsh
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They need to test it first so let’s wait and see what happens stickerCelebrate

tropic radish
silent lily
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Well, they're in beta for a reason pPopcorn

hexed quail
spark lance
#

Hello
I am beta tester do I need to get the invite when the new season come to keep playing or no? 🤧

stark sundial
#

I think so... if every cape have new wing buff, so it could be 48 wing buffs in total in the base game?

kindred fossil
#

yes, you have to regain access each access wipe

late tulip
#

Getting to 11th star would be a lot easier now if each ascension gives us a WL stickerShiny

spark lance
#

i have 75 hearts in live
and 0 in beta

#

if this comes to live and we have all of the new wing buff imma actually think that I could be in 150 SkyTada

#

im ready to the new capes ohhh yeaaa

stark sundial
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is still ~~75 extra ac iirc so yeah it could reduce the amount of ts needed but it also add a lot of eden weekly visits

scenic adder
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I have 143 wl right now without having gone to eden since a few of the TS's 😩

runic path
#

I've got 168 acs in livepFIRE I'm ready to buy it outpFIRE

silent lily
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If they made these capes simple so that the devices won't lag, then, can anyone tell me how enchantement Capes exist without Burning my phone?

stark sundial
#

me too I have 210 stickerShiny

warm badger
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I honestly don’t think a white or black cape with an outline is cool enough to go through getting 150 hearts stickerGloomy

I would totally work towards it though if it were one of the old cb cape designs

hollow haven
#

boy what did ya think about the new capes?

spark lance
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Not fan of the gray thing that they have, looks kinda weird

hollow haven
#

I didn't liked that much, but the blue, black and white ones were beautiful

stark sundial
mellow mason
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Me, not a big fan of the new capes: “hmm I wish someone could come up with a different design”

Also me, an artist: “oh wait, hold my beer”

hollow haven
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I think they could have optimized the light await capes for us

hexed quail
stark sundial
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or they are shorter cuts in enchantment?

hollow haven
#

Dunno, I was really hoping for this capes to be prettier than they are :// but I'm positive that TGC may change a little the design for the global

spark lance
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Me, not a big fan of the new capes: “hmm I wish someone could come up with a different design”

Also me, an artist: “oh wait, hold my beer”
@mellow mason sorry for the ping but i saw your design and omg I’m in love pSkyHeart

silent lily
stark sundial
#

I don't think they are so long tho

silent lily
#

Yeah

mellow mason
tacit flame
#

I just had a look at the designs by @/Wintercat96, they’re beautiful pWow

warm badger
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I love those designs as well

silent lily
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Winter i love those Designs. I would actually pay the asked price if i get those Capes

mellow mason
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Thank you guys aaaaaaa pWow TGCBlueHeart

spark lance
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the other thing it’s like...idk they look like chopped with a scissors sorry stickerEmbarrassed

silent lily
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I don't know what they look like, cut paper, pancakes, or whatever, they just....ahhj. don't look good, that's my opinion

kindred fossil
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silver/blue just doesn't fit every color, looks good with some, others not so much

warm badger
#

I love the glow on those capes as well, the design is simple so it wouldn’t overheat the device but enough to where there’s a difference, and it looks lovely, I would absolutely go through the hassle of getting 150 hearts for those capes

Of course I’m talking about wintercats capes, I’m not fond of the actual ones in beta sorry

kindred fossil
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i would for purple, that's the only good looking one

spark lance
#

Guys everone go to feed back and write his opinion tabout new capes they will change if ppl don’t like it

kindred fossil
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uuuh wait, are we talking about the redesigns or the current designs?

stark sundial
spark lance
#

red it’s looking nice for me so far

kindred fossil
random gull
#

Dark crylaughLOLOLOL my friend Mochi is legit wearing the new yellow cape right now

silent lily
#

Who else hopes that these Capes get a plastic surgery or smthn?🗿

spark lance
#

Lmaoooo Dark SkyLOL

minor falcon
#

whew, just finished backreading five hours' worth of messages sWhew interesting convo for sure! this chat is really all or nothing activity wise sLaugh

random gull
#

oof Voi I didn't even try to backread when I woke up

kindred fossil
#

i logged back into my old account to be greeted by it
"what am i looking at..."

slim kayak
#

I wasn't awake enough to backread that much. I'm still not SkyLOL

silent lily
#

Lol, today's chat was very interesting imo and fun

minor falcon
#

dark you got back in! say hello to your no-longer-cursed cape for me sLaugh

spark lance
#

Which one did u bought Dark

tropic radish
#

Hmm, was that the first wave ?
Will there be another huge wave of discussions about the new capes hours from now ?pEyes

whole marsh
#

Dark why do I feel like u would love to wear that cape in wasteland ? krillin

kindred fossil
#

ami <_<
i bought yellow

stark sundial
#

you can start one now Sal pShadow as long as is keep it respectful between everyone

minor falcon
#

sal the discussion will most likely continue for the foreseeable future, just as the ts update discussion getmothrolled

random gull
#

Mochi bought the yellow one too. I'm aiming for teal myself so I'm a ways off sky_rofl but I'm still laughing about the highlighter yellow safety vest

tropic radish
#

I was about to drop a few while chat was still zooming but gave up halfway writing and burnt out with everything going on at that time. Couldn't catch up so I just sat there and reacted with emotes SkyFaint SkyLOL

spark lance
#

Guys I'm kinda lost rn- so let's say that I was completing a constellation with one of this new capes, if they are added to live, I will have to buy that new cape to actually complete the constellation?

#

i love love that tgc is adding new content to the constellations for veteran players! im not a big fan of the cape designs either 💔maybe they tgc is still working on them?

minor falcon
#

the new capes aren't part of constellation completion moonlight, no no

tiny umbra
#

The green cape has some value to me despite me not having bought it at all after I promised myself I would after I got that wing buff so I’m aiming for that one stickerShiny

craggy karma
#

Wait
Who pinged me here???

kindred fossil
#

check your recent mentions

silent lily
#

It's so hard to spot pings now

random gull
#

mamabear it was mentioned that they're close to finalized but everything in beta is subject to change before it hits live so we really don't know. best bet is to provide your feedback in #beta-feedback and just watch for updates stickerHeart

silent lily
#

And keep your hopes up

hollow haven
#

Do you think that after completing the capes we're gonna be able to buy more things from the elders? Boy I wanna vault mask so bad

silent lily
#

Nope i dont think so, There are no new ultimate Elder gifts as now

hollow haven
#

It'd be nice if they added more elder cosmetics. I wanna be a tiny Valley elder.

spark lance
#

thank you @random gull i posted feedback in that channel 💕

mellow mason
#

✨ VALLEY PANTS ✨
-sprints to wishlist-

hollow haven
#

YEAH, BOYYY. VALLEY PANTS.

spark lance
#

Thats would be awesome...some ultimate inspired in the elders clothes pWow

silent lily
spark lance
#

capeless in live 🙏🤤

lusty light
#

But you can already get the elders masks

#

Except for valley

hollow haven
#

Can we? I've never seen someone wearing vault mask, for example. Like, literally the grandma mask

valid terrace
#

I want my spirit robe and sandals hhhhhhh

spark lance
#

how can i view @mellow mason cape designs?

mellow mason
lusty light
#

The mask is simplified but yes you can get it

spark lance
#

ok tysm!! 💕💕

hollow haven
#

Ohhh---

#

Well, I still want the elder's clothes, hehehe.

lusty light
#

Maybe one day 👁️

silent lily
#

Also, for some reason i thought the navy cape Spirits tier will have the mask he wears (not really a mask, it's a tall head thing and is differnet from the scholar mask and the vaukt Elder mask) but

spark lance
#

wintercat, those are beautiful! actually those design concepts were exactly what i had imagined the new capes would look like. u totally nailed it!

mellow mason
#

Aaaa thank you so much!! I’m glad people like them pWow 💕

silent lily
#

Even though if they can't make it that detailed, i hope they add a glow, just that will make them worth it

lusty light
#

The purple cape used to glow and I’m pretty sure that’s one of the reasons it caused overheating

median oyster
#

So the 11th wedge design is already out in beta?

lusty light
silent lily
#

But the Butterfly cape glows toostickerGloomy

mellow mason
#

Not to mention all the lightseekers capes...

lusty light
#

Imma be honest

#

I kind of forgot about the lightseekers capes

#

Well then let’s get some glow 👁👁

silent lily
#

They have so much detail going on, even the enchantement Capes,
I wish they could at least give us something that explains why is the design like this (if it remains the same) like they did for the manta Cape

#

But then again, it's only barely been a day, i think I'll be a bit more patient

lusty light
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It’s different

#

Mesh vs texture

random gull
silent lily
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Well, i mean any explanation from their side would be appreciated

#

Yeah, kind of, well, leave it :)

tame socket
#

How much is all the capes? :o

dense holly
#

I finally bought all my buffs from the spirits (pre new update with new buffs). I thought it was possible to get 10 wedges without Eden and new trial stars?
Or no? I can't remember because it's been so long

kindred fossil
#

x3 of the original price (ex: white cape is 50, meaning the new one is 150)
total for all capes is 729

tame socket
#

Thank you hehe

silent lily
tame socket
#

Thank you thank youstickerOK

ionic bluff
#

that new star design goes AMAZING with the red gratitude cape pEyes

tranquil ether
#

What does the new design look like?? I can’t load beta rn for some reason :l

odd field
#

how do i send a feedback? do i need to just dm skybot or?? its making me anxious lolol

kindred fossil
prime lintel
silent lily
#

Dark circles

random gull
#

oops wrong channel pain sorry

prime lintel
#

huge
chibi

random gull
#

i clearly can't multitask today sky_rofl

olive wolf
#

So with these new cape designs, do we have more wing buffs?

kindred fossil
#

yes, 9 more

odd field
#

9? if it makes it to live ill have around 149 wl. one more for 11th star stickerCelebrate

olive wolf
#

Yay thats awesome. Excuse me but I have some mathing to do now. Gonna see how many wings I need till 11th star. I'm very far from it but maybe these new buffs will get me closer

ionic bluff
#

p l e a s e come to live soon I need those wingbuffs pEyes

burnt ridge
#

Is beta crashing for anyone else?

olive wolf
#

@ionic bluff nah we should let these capes go thru a few more beta updates before coming to live. Needs some more changes imo

ionic bluff
#

I’ll hit 154 I think if that happens pEyes

random gull
#

spazz did you download the update today? the crashing issues should be fixed now

burnt ridge
#

Ah I didn’t thank you

ionic bluff
#

I guess u can say the capes need some changes, in all I don’t really like the designs but ktjn said they aren’t supposed to be fancy

silent lily
#

But still, i understand that they aren't supposed to be fancy, but at least make them look appealing in a way

ionic bluff
#

^that

I really still hope they change tho, just a cape with an outline doesn’t seem that appealing enough to spend 45-150 hearts on a single one of them

safe ridge
#

For the new capes are they all gonna stay the grey-ish and black color for the accents or will that possibly change?

simple bobcat
#

Beta is always subject to change stickerHeart

kindred fossil
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can't say for certain

ionic bluff
#

it’s always possible it could change in beta. Everything in beta is subject to change

safe ridge
#

Ah right, I keep forgetting

tiny umbra
#

Spazzzzzz

olive wolf
#

Does anyone have any pictures/videos of the new capes charging under different lighting? post in beta screenshots and tag me if you do

floral sand
#

what does 11th star looks like?

simple bobcat
fleet falcon
#

How come @frozen marsh has pictures of white, pink and black capes? They’re not showing up on my game. Just asking though

tender knoll
#

Am I the only one who doesn’t like the new capes??

sonic perch
#

beta doesn't have a question and help server? stickerGloomy i'm so lost and i need help finding new heart capes prices and is it confirm that, that will be the price for when it continues forward to live version?

silent lily
tiny umbra
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Let’s maybe not use the snowflake emoji in that way

simple bobcat
tender knoll
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So, I haven’t unlocked new cape yet but my vault constellation is 100%. Can I get elder hair??

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Gotta go get that 🥚 now!! Bye!!

bronze grail
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I want an ocarina too, and I will call Epona with it. 😂
(I saw your name)

toxic mauve
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oh, really?? I didn't know it

spark lance
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Well, imagine you walk into a clothing store to purchase clothes. Obviously most of the clothes will not please you and you will not buy the ones you didn't like. Sky is almost the same. a cape may not be to your liking but it will be to the liking of thousands of other players. I liked. stickerHug TGCBlueHeart

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so i’m update the testlight app but it failed and now the beta sky doesnt in it anymore stickerGloomy

kindred fossil
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are you sure you're logged in into the correct ID? try restarting your device, or leave it be and come back later

stark sundial
# toxic mauve oh, really?? I didn't know it

the maximum amount of wedges available right now is 11 and only the the first wedge on top can display the new design so any pic showing more than that is through illegitimate methods, against tos and not allowed to be shared and discussed here stickerPlease

spark lance
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well i guess it was slow wifi issue stickerShy and it work now

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ty dark xD

latent palm
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did they change default fps on android snapdragon to 60fps?

random gull
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@latent palm please don't ask the same questions in multiple channels. this is beta chat for discussion of beta topics and that question is best asked in #questions-and-help

latent palm
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i was asking about beta lmao i sent it in the wrong channel

valid terrace
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It feels so surreal to see the 11th wedge as an actual thing...we’ve come so far...

sand dawn
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I remember getting my 9th star was such an accomplishment back in the day

gray matrix
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NEW CAPESSS

neat river
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Does the new ac lock to get to the new capes give more wing buffs?

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Neat SkyWingbuff SkyTada

gray matrix
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What are the new capes for

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Like why do they exist

sand dawn
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Showing off lol

edgy nexus
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Is it still possible to get back to the old capesstickerGloomy

lyric kite
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The new capes aren't replacing the old capes, they are just additional cosmetic items that you can unlock. You can still use the original versions if you want to

spark lance
sand dawn
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No

latent palm
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i hate that the devs killed trial speedruns.

lyric kite
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Yeah, it says in the #beta-announcements about it
🔸 These tiers will not count toward Constellation completion progress to unlock their respective Ultimate Gifts

latent palm
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trial of earth had a major skip that saved 3 minutes and the devs were just like nope and blocked it. not like a casual player was gonna find it anyway

sand dawn
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If you ask me, that just makes speedrunning it more interesting...

latent palm
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and who cares if they find it. its a skip! who doesnt like skips!

copper bison
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it kind of makes earth trial way too easy though, you just climb up the wall and walk to the end SkyShrug

latent palm
sand dawn
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Devs who designed a challenge don’t like skips that goes past all that

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I’m sure designing the challenges took much more than 3 hours SkyLOL

latent palm
spark lance
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do you often play trials in Live?

deft solar
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from 1 to 5 my opinion about new cape is 0, sorry no creativity, dear tgc

simple bobcat
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I'm sure coding a game in 24h wouldn't make it a polished game though

brisk salmon
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and sky is a 3d game not a 2d game

kindred fossil
deft solar
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@spark lance just once for every trial, i don't give a damn to take wing of lights in there after my eden reborn

vague sparrow
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Spoiler!

||so like when the new capes will be introduced will you be able to complete the constellations without them?||

kindred fossil
brisk salmon
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pretty sure you don't need to spoiler beta things here because this is a beta channel

vague sparrow
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Probaly, but just wanted to be sure

hexed quail
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i heard about some 9 WL in addition in beta ? can someone explain to me pls

kindred fossil
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from the new tiers

rustic imp
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Ktjn mentioned in the update post that the new tiers won’t count toward completion. I’m guessing that you can get the elder gifts before the new stuff

hexed quail
brisk salmon
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the new wing buffs?

spark lance
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every spirit having a cape in its tree has got a new tier added at the end of this tree
this tier is a new wing buff + a new cape

@rustic imp yes you can

kindred fossil
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yes, that, that makes it 9

hexed quail
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AAAAh ok lol i was already aware in fact hahaha sorry everyoneSkyLOL
i thought it was about something else

rustic imp
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Oh a new wing buff too? that’s a lot of new wl stickerShiny sqwarlockDed

hexed quail
tiny umbra
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I wonder where the null items went pEyes maybe they got moved to orbit ? Or is it like what the updates said and they’d get implemented later, thou none of the items that had the null symbol were were given an icon like it said unless I’m a) remembering wrong b) getting beta updates wrong or c)discord hates me

random gull
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beta should be at 159 wl right now with the new buffs iirc pEyes

kindred fossil
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they got hidden, not moved to orbit

spark lance
deft solar
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@tiny umbra c 🖖

kindred fossil
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er...?

random gull
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let's not ping people unnecessarily stickerHangOn could react to their post with 🇨

sand dawn
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I can get a max of 156 in beta .. (didn’t get all eden seasons bug buffs stickerGloomy )

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And missing a few new wing buffs too..!

tender knoll
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So there was an item above memory whisperer from vault constellation with 150 hearts. It’s gone. I did unlock the wing buff. Did I get it SkyThink

tiny umbra
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That ones been hidden since it’s not in game yet, probably in the next few updates it’ll come back

hexed quail
hexed quail
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does anyone have the total amount of hearts needed to unlock all these V2 capes ?

real mica
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729

half cypress
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Does anyone hear that? It is the sound of my soul crumbling away.

hexed quail
tiny umbra
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Sneak stance just became the most expensive spirit pFIRE 2 hearts ahead of memory call

hexed quail
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black cape ?

late scarab
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Finally got to see new cape so was mad at first but now I’m in love!!

slim kayak
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i just got the second yellow cape and i'm just.. meh. something is missing or off with this design, but I can't really place it

kindred fossil
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yeah they look unfinished

mortal pendant
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I don’t have 150 wings yet, I’m curious to know what the design looks like. stickerHeart

kindred fossil
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those new capes are giving me a crisis, sometimes i like them, sometimes i don't

tiny umbra
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I liked them in night mode homespace

stark sundial
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I dont think is surprising that I like the cheapest more :v, you get great value for your currency

spark lance
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@silent ingot there are 3 other capes that have been removed (for the moment at least) so potentially 3 more wing buffs, for a total of 9 🙂

silent ingot
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Yes I noticed that some colors were missing haha ​​^~^ Thanks you @spark lance

tribal grove
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Hello! Sorry maybe I was thrown out of the loop but why is tgc adding these new capes? Is it for wing buffs? (Also the one that gives off the purple effect is hilarious!)

slim kayak
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People wanted the old beta capes in the game, so they tried to make something like that but not as demanding on our phones

haughty wyvern
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I don’t know how to activate the STAR pin 😏

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Does anyone know?

stark sundial
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Aeras the devs said that bringing back those capes was the original intend or how? ohNOreo

flat shadow
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Would anyone be able to tell me all the prices for the new capes? (Hearts and ascension candles to unlock)stickerPlease Also! I can’t preview the capes on Beta, does anyone know why I can’t? Thanks guys!!pSkyHeart

fresh quiver
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The prices are x3 the prices of the base capes and wing buffs! You should be able to preview most of the new capes if you've updated. Currently you can't preview the pink, white, and black capes unless you bought them in the previous update

flat shadow
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Aaaa the thanks buddy!!pSkyHeart

tiny umbra
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yep, so for example the purple cape is 30*3= 90 hearts

kindred fossil
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yeah, but it's fan-made, looks nice

random gull
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yeah if it's not from official TGC sources it's fan made content. cool but probably not gonna happen in game

wary magnet
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I know it's fake but God it would be cool if tgc saw it

slim kayak
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@stark sundial

The new capes are inspired by the pre-global launch capes, but are intentionally simplified for performance reasons. The team doesn't want them to be fanciful. They are a symbol of being kind to others and building long term friendships.

From ktjn on the capes. They are inspired by the old capes, but they are just extra things to show off your friendships

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Players have been asking for old capes to come back though

manic aspen
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They were too resource intensive or something, so they had to be simplified

slim kayak
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Yeah, the way the old capes worked caused a lot of issues, so they were taken out

stark sundial
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show off... that will be take in another way, weird flex but okay :v
I barely can see the similarities ohNOreo

woeful harbor
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Imagine if old capes came back once Sky releases on stronger consoles pCry

kindred fossil
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i expected patterned capes, not as detailed as light awaits, but an extremely simple pattern

hollow compass
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There will always be people who want to flex, whatever the cosmetic. We should all just try to take a step back and look at what we want instead, rather than compare with others.

stark sundial
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I was expecting some dual color kinda like big line on top of the wedges like a racing car 🏎️ or something to change the colors of the trail that our hands left while flying

hollow compass
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From what I’ve seen so far, I like the dark blue and the purple ones best, because the edges blend well with the main colour.

kindred fossil
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yeah, those are the only ones i might buy if nothing drastically changes

thin shell
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Wait so do we have official pics for the remaining ascended capes?
I think I saw them on #beta-screenshots-videos but idk if its edited

kindred fossil
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those are official, they bought them before they were hidden

hollow compass
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I don’t want to be mean, but some out the outlines look a bit like when a 5yo tries to colour in a picture. SkyLOL I think I expected more details, maybe?

kindred fossil
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oh thank god, white cape looks like a carton cutout

woeful harbor
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I’m still not a fan of the uncertainty in the way the pattern is drawn, feels like whoever designed it was shaking their hand

hollow cloak
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pSkyPeek I see that the discussion is still going strong, but not raging

ionic bluff
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Yeah the new capes just aren’t my thing. Apparently they’re inspired by the preglobal capes but I just don’t see it? It looks like a cape with an outline, nothing else

hollow cloak
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I think I'm going to add to the flurry of edits pHelloKrill

kindred fossil
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the more the merrier

hollow cloak
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Ah, my screen glitch curse has extended to the point where the bottom of my laptop screen is also flickering and glitching pPopcorn

ionic bluff
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Hopefully the edits give ideas to the devs

hollow cloak
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I feel like the problem isn't necessarily the lack of ideas, but more the struggle of implementation... I don't know, though, I have no clue how Sky's game engine works SkyShrug

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...Oh, and the cape lines change color depending on where you are? That's fun, I wonder if it's intentional... pPopcorn

lusty light
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That’s just lighting

random gull
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yeah lighter capes in general have different hues in different areas lighting so the silver/grey would look different under different lighting too

hollow cloak
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Right... It's just that since there are two different colors now, I guess the lighting can create some really discordant hues SkyThink

wintry root
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were there good or bad opinions regarding the new capes? or maybe it was mixed? I am not informed

random gull
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everyone has different opinions so both. chat was nyooming this morning about it but I think it's at a point it's easier to keep up with now. Majority beta opinion seems to be that people think they're too plain or too expensive SkyShrug

kindred fossil
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seems mixed to me

spark lance
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small_orange_diamond Tiers for non-seasonal Spirits who have items that are not implemented are hidden until their respective items are ready

Can someone pls help tell me what this means?

random gull
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I kinda like them myself. I wish the linings were darker but the plain design fits with base game sky stuff. I mean our 100% completion elders are fairly plain too. like vault right now I"m 75% completion and still have 100 hearts to go.

hollow cloak
random gull
spark lance
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Ohh i see! Thank you all

kindred fossil
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i settled that i have a love-hate relationship with those capes, some look good, some don't, still needs to be improved

spark lance
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🔹 Ultimate item constellation should no longer display the wrong icon
anyone knows what was the issue they fixed pls?

kindred fossil
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must be referring to when you finish a seasonal constellation, all regular constellations "?" icon turns into the seasonal 100% flag icon

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not entirely sure but that's a wild guess

random gull
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that would make sense pEyes

kindred fossil
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can't know for sure since prophecy ended

spark lance
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oooh i see. its totally possible

pulsar blade
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What will happen if i deleted my beta due to space storage problem. Then i reinstall it again

hollow cloak
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As long as you saved your account's recovery code or linked it to Gamecenter or Google, it should be okay

pulsar blade
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Yeah. I did it even before. As long as gamecenter is on. Once i reinstall it and my gamecenter is on. It automatically relods my data

hollow cloak
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Yup, sounds like you already know what you're doing SkyLOL

unreal eagle
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bruh the new capes are so spendy 💀

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i hope the heart prices will be lowered to a reasonable price for live players.

ionic bluff
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Yeah I’ll be honest 150 hearts for a cape with an outline I feel is a little too much... pCry

hollow cloak
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I feel like they explained the reasoning behind that pretty well in the pins, though. It's a non-flashy way of showing people that you've been around for a while/have a lot of friends, which suits the relaxed, friendly style of Sky.
I like it better than people flexing their seasonal cosmetics SkyWhew

novel aspen
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Since some of the new capes require ascended candles, do you get two wing buffs from those spirits now?

Edit: neat, I’ll be able to get my 11th wing then :D

hollow cloak
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I said I would make edits but I made concept art instead SkyCrabwalk

deft belfry
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oooo

hollow cloak
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Don't get excited when I say concept art, it's nowhere near as flashy as some of the other art SkyLOL

deft belfry
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hey! every art is unique in its own way stickerHeart

woeful harbor
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Turtles when

tiny umbra
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In boneyard but it’s dead now

pulsar blade
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Any thoughts why i cant install properly my beta. I deleted it and trying to reinstall due to space. Is it due to testers still enrolling for a vacant slot. Ps. My internet comnection here is really poorest

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Follow up. In live almost 3 weeks more before the season ends. The new season will start in beta soonest right. 2 weeks after the season ends. Am i right as per previous setup.

hasty whale
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Is there any changes in the capes now?

tiny umbra
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Hi dayz ! there are no purchasable cosmetics this days of giving, since it’s only a hearts event, but there may be one for the winter holiday event like there was last year

lone hollow
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Uhmmm, I'm scared of the news capes and wingbuffs cause... well..stickerCold

I have a few realms completed anddddd

It means that i have to buy everything upcoming again to unlock the hairs again?

lyric kite
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🔸 These tiers will not count toward Constellation completion progress to unlock their respective Ultimate Gifts

lone hollow
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Oh no?

tiny umbra
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The new capes will not count toward the constellations, so you can buy everything besides the new stuff and still get your elder hair, plus if you already have it there is no need to get it again SkyLOL

lone hollow
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Phew that scared mehSkyWhew

finite meteor
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my phone b up-to-date on beta but my ipad is still on the build of thr capes crashing wow SkyWhew

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im killing my storage on purpose

frozen marsh
spark lance
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u must have a lot of heartspEyes

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for everyone that wants more complicated designs for the capes, keep in mind that sky's engine can only hold so much texture data. the reason capes are currently that simple is that it's basically required to be like that for the game to function. i might be a bit wrong, but after watching the devs' panel they mentioned that there were texture constraints, that's why a lot of the cosmetics are flat colors. anyone can correctme if i'm wrong but this is my personal theory as to why the new capes can't resemble light awaits' capes

finite meteor
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meanwhile the new seasons coming in with cosmetics that all have textures

pine remnant
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@finite meteor new season ? prophecy is still ongoing in live, beta doesn’t have any info about a new season

random edge
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We don’t know what the new season has coming in though.

unreal python
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its probably set up in a different way than the old light awaits capes

finite meteor
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i meant the seasons that have happened ‘ and all seasons have had new cosmetics, and all those cosmetics have textures
i dont know much about texture limits in games, but since new content has been coming almost every month with new cosmetics and things more and more textures are used to where it seems endless

unreal python
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the only one i can think of is aloha cape? everything else is pretty solid color w/low textures such as lines, or some small shapes. nothing as intensive as the old light awaits capes

tiny umbra
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You know the tinfoil effect on sweets after you cook them ? The capes kinda look like that and while I still don’t absolutely hate them they make me hungry

unreal python
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mini conversation through reacts xD

spice hare
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What do u guys mean by “the old light awaits capes” ??

copper bison
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sky used to be Sky: Light Awaits

finite meteor
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the capes that were in pre-launch, their designs were completely different

unreal python
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there used to be an old cape design in the early beta version of the game-light awaits, which was really complex and detailed. looked very pretty but was super resource intensive so they got removed

spice hare
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Ahh okie. Thank u for answering ☺️

hollow cloak
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I have more concepts but I'm afraid they're going to take up a lot of space pWeep

dark anchor
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dunno if this is the place to ask but i keep seeing people call those new capes "veteran capes" is there some requirement to have them available or can any player get them regardless of when they joined?

grand scroll
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Nah, they just cost a lot

quick oriole
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You can get them regardless of when you joined, as long as you have enough currency. I personally don’t like calling them that, but it’s understandable cause the idea would be someone who has 100+ hearts to afford some of these new capes would presumably be an older player who built up lots of extra hearts

dark anchor
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i figured that was the case, thank u. cant wait to spend the next 3 months grinding for one single cape 😔😔😔

grand scroll
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Heh, I’ve been playing since global launch, completely every constellation and only have 320 hearts sqwarlockDed

finite meteor
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how pWeep

white horizon
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If office cape would get an upgrade, it would cost 60 bucks. stickerShock stickerHAHA

finite meteor
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would it be exactly $60 or $59.99 though 👁️

grand scroll
finite meteor
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ive been playing since lightseekers are you a sky god wh

grand scroll
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I’ve been around since gratitude but this is getting a little off topic lol

analog citrus
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I feel like if they just made the trim of the cape match the white from the inside of the cape it would go a long way. The gray or silver is the third color now and just looks weird to me

grand scroll
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Fair enough, but me personally i kinda like the shiny silver on some of the capes, gives a bit of flare to the classic capes, one of my friends put out an idea that tgc could use gold trimmings for the white cape upgrade

grand swift
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Hope the new capes are still in progress