#beta-discussion
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I'm sure everyone who was present in this chat that day saw how many players said the only reason they play sky is Cosmetics
yes true
im walking away for my own sake but please just general reminder that real human beings have to read your feedback and please dont be a jerk on the feedback channel. im not gonna come back if you ping me. i need a break 
Take a break? Why do you need to play it every day for eternity?
did something happen?
I think the change of TS requiring the current season adventure pass and the TS demanding less regular candles is fair BUT, now it’s too late for that, TGC should have thought of that since the beginning
You know, i agree it's a good idea, but they need income too, when new seasons come everytime, people buy so MANY passes. If Seasons repeated, only new Players will buy them, and It'll be a chunk of income decreased from normal
You have the same people here saying “it’s too much of a grind” and also “what will I do if things repeat?” I don’t get it.
What is going on? Recap please? 
Why would I take a break from a game I love? If I take a break and find a new game that I end up falling in love with then probably I won’t come back to Sky. No game company want their players to take a break. That’s not smart at all.
once people are assured that theres a guaranteed way to get something, people will be willing to work towards it.
in the past, spells were all obtained at random and people were upset because there was no guarantee to get resizes (the spell with the highest demand).
now that spells have a designated area and are always available, people have much less reason to complain now.
so i think something similar could be thought of for TS items
They could put more time between new seasons then and fill that space with old seasons. Give a month between seasons instead of 1-2 weeks.
bro...no
sorry if im being rude haha but thats uh not very healthy LOL game companies that want players to actively grind are engaging in predatory tactics which is what sky is supposed to contradict
Yeah, especially when there's stuff that the poeple will buy from the shop while they play, rather than taking a break. They have to think about money too, cause without it sky will not exist
That way, it can be used by old and new players alike to catch up on anything they missed from that season.
it would be awesome if there was great endgame content and if players who had finished seasons would get regular candles instead of seasonals. seasons for new players and more candles for veterans
bump
Excuse but repeating a season would make things exactly the same. It would still be grinding and will make veterans go away
whats the freaking difference of repeating a season and TS?
Sadly this is simply the nature of some people - work, work and work for materialistic wealth
What's happening here 👁️👄👁️
Repeating seasons will not change the grinding aspect of the game (I’m not complaining about the grinding aspect. I took my time to complete the constellations, almost a year), I only pointed out what my subscribers think of the game
Repeating the seasons it’s not a very good idea for me. We would be stuck in the history and lore of the game without new seasons while one is repeating. I missed a lot of seasons due to studying and I think the best way to bring ultimates is only IAP with a price like the bat cape or little bit more. And they can return like 1-2 times a year only (for example for New Year and other festivities)
Idk if I should send this to wishlist and ideas or beta feedback 
you pay the pass and are able to get the whole season's content. TS are random spirits from different seasons and no ability o get ults
How would it be grinding if you already have the items? The point is that this game chains you to it forever unless you quit.
new players can get their cosmetics and old players wont need to repeat stuff...!
I mean for new players, cmon...
less and less tho as you eventually get all the past seasons content with TS
Okay about this ts/ seasons repeat thing. When you think the same thing from tgc's pov, it will all change. Money plays a big part in descisions, don't forget that.
New or old players, it would cut back on the NEED to grind, because you’d know there’ll be another chance to earn those items at some point.
Repeating seasons sounds like a great way to make TGC lose a ton of money and make veterans stop playing
for anyone popping into chat;
if this discussion is not your cup of tea its ok to take a break from it
drink some water & remember to not get too personal or heated with opinions here
love each other. be kind 
Well the TSes were added bc they didn’t want to repeat seasons. My suggestion was repeat seasons instead of TS.
Nah, some things just won't come back
Can someone fill me in on what's happening and also I'm really anxious thinking of the new tiers making to live
Repeating season is not a option at all. I'm a Android player and I do want all old stuff. But really, repeating season is not a option for both tgc or player
The POINT here is that NO ONE TOLD YOU TO GRIND FOR COSMETICS like IT'S NOT NECESSARY FOR YOU TO KEEP PLAYING SKY so if you think it's too grindy then well it's not tgc's problem. You get to choose whether to grind or not
So like, a whole 3 month just for old season to come back? ...
The current system with full seasons/locked ultimates and ts is p balanced tbh
New players would still have to grind for regular constelations. The new TS system, which demand the seasonal pass of current seasons helps to decrease the grinding aspect as they will require much less regular candles, so new players would have to farm less and could focus on regular constelations while still having a change to get past seaons cosmetics. Past seasons cosmetics coming with the TS is a way of repeating a season
Having the ts + seasons kinda increases the profits.
When seasons won't repeat people will buy passes everytime and not sometimes.
When ts comes, many people are short on candles and they buy from the shop, that's profits too
Now, if half of it's Cosmetics remain pass locked, that'll force the player to buy ap if they want that item, which will increase the amount of people who buy ap even more, hence increasing profits.
This all was not from my point of view. I oppose most of it
TS is way better than repeating seasons
I'll just be lurking here now cause the topic went 180° and I'm pretty much lost
So I'm just watching from afar, till i manage to think rationally about all of this
People saying veterans are gonna quit bc they have nothing to do — I’m in a server with a whole bunch of veterans that quit because all there is to do is grind every day forever and do the same quests ad nauseam till you die.
I like the idea of TS better though
The current system with full seasons/locked ultimates and ts is p balanced tbh
@tired fox
I can't agree more I don't feel the need for repeating seasons or cash gating TS or adding over priced stuff
exactly
I’m just explaining what would make the game actually wholesome and not predatory. You can make excuses for any kind of behavior with the “they need to make money” defense.
The fact that they’re adding new stuff to the main constellations is a good idea to give old players new things to work for too
I'm the one who can do anything to reduce the grind part of the game, so i would still prefer maybe mini short Seasons, instead of ts.
Repeat seasons is not a good idea for new players or veterans. TS system without AP, as it is right now is the most fair for everyone.
and what about the veterans that have no reason at all to grind because they played every season of the game, so they only need 5 regular candles and 2 ascended candles for the winged light when a TS comes?
i think if we work with TS, if people knew who was coming much more in advance (like maybe at the start of the month, TGC shows the 2 spirits coming), it would help lessen grind?
we all grind because TS is only shown a day before it comes, so people either have to grind in preparation or grind in the small window of time they have when TS arrives.
if we had more time to know which TS was arriving, we could relax and plan around it.
what dyou guys think of this :O
im totally FOR new endgame content but these capes feel very very unfinished
I believe it's okay if veterans will eventually quit the game. I don't think this game was originally designed like other games so the players can just keep playing it. Sky is completely different
People saying veterans are gonna quit bc they have nothing to do — I’m in a server with a whole bunch of veterans that quit because all there is to do is grind every day forever and do the same quests ad nauseam till you die.
@blazing sail
Adding overpriced tiers is gonna solve that? Cuz just doing a few missions and enjoying the game sounds way better than farming all maps and burning urself out for hearts
I think that's a good pov
I absolutely agree with that, it would be cool if their design was more like the old beta ones for the ultimate capes 🥺
That’s my point. The game should require less of a grind. I don’t know why you keep asking for more grind while also saying it’s too grindy.
"they need to make money" isn't an excuse. They are a company, a business, hence , they actually have to make money and not give everything to evryone for free
Again, I'm not defending them, neither is this what I want, it's me saying that they're a company too
I'm not the one saying it is too grindy, I'm saying MY SUBSCRIBERS are saying it! you're misleading things here
That’s my point. The game should require less of a grind. I don’t know why you keep asking for more grind while also saying it’s too grindy.
@blazing sail
Oh wait I think we're on the same team here
i agree with it. i would like to know what im grinding for. it creates a bit of anxiety to always have enough even if it might be something you already have or something relatively cheap
Same I'm there too with u, but i dont think anything is gonaa happen to fix that
No, I’m with you. I don’t like this idea of adding cosmetics just to keep people coming back every day for their candles. It’s not wholesome at all.
That's very true
I believe it's okay if veterans will eventually quit the game. I don't think this game was originally designed like other games so the players can just keep playing it. Sky is completely different
@stiff dust
YESSSSS! Yes and the game is sooo good when u don't have to worry about candles
My mind is broken, I’m agreeing with everyone 
It’s repetitive, if you do the same thing for months it gets boring. I was very very relieved when I finally finished all my constellation, and i didn’t felt the need to collect every single day, and I could just send hearts to whoever I want to without making them feel they need to give it back. I’m glad we have long term goals, but they are based on the same mechanics as the the regular constellations. Grind and trade and do notes.

when are you not worrying about candles lol?
lots of comments under TS announcements are how people spent candles on regular constellation items and regret it, which honestly shouldnt happen!
people shouldnt regret spending candles on constellation, so maybe having TS announcements at the start of every month that shows the spirits who are coming would help players plan around it a lot easier
No, I’m with you. I don’t like this idea of adding cosmetics just to keep people coming back every day for their candles. It’s not wholesome at all.
@blazing sail
YESS YESS YESS we're on the same train sorry for the friendly fire on another note have you guys all given feedback so tgc doesn't bring it to live?
weekly quests would make it less grindy cuz we would be rewarded by doing them and the awards should help ups to fullfill constellations, we should have actual events and not a period of time to buy expensive things, that's what im saying since the beginning, we need new in-game mechanisms and not to repeat seasons
Honestly, speaking as a year-old player here, I have almost every cosmetic and barely even candle run anymore. It has no purpose. The game is still appealing for its social aspect, just to hang out with people, playing music or just enjoying the scenery
You can always help moths and play some music. I eventually realized that having all the cosmetics is just not that important. I finished all constellations and it did not make me as happy as I thought I would
Right, and I was saying that if they can only support the game through these limited items you can’t ever earn again, it’s a lot less wholesome than everyone’s trying to claim it is.
when are you not worrying about candles lol?
@strong canopy
When u have enough candles for all ts and only need seasonal ones
Tbh, when i was new, and didn't knew there is this farming for candles things for at least 2 weeks. I enjoyed it alot more since there was no worry like "omg it's reset i forgot to do QUESTS" "omg omg 1 hour left i still have to farm valley, prarie, Vault, Forest"
🌞
Same, I just ran around the maps and discovered a lot of new things with my other moth friend
Are we all agreeeing that the new tiers are not necessary?
can't relate i only have 300 candles 😔
Especially as they are now lol
I CAN THO, SINCE I HAVE 30
veterans are having a mid-life crisis, reminiscing on the days where they just walked around and honked
lol hello dark welcome to the chaos
we dont need new tiers we need new ultimate elder//endgame gifts
Reject veteran return to moth
that's my point...I playe since its global release (18th of july of 2019) I have every single item of the game and there's nothing to do on it anymore besides interacting with friends, recording videos or doing livestreams for my YT channel...repeating a season wihtout the addition of end-game content/new in-game mechanisms would make me quit
I’ve wanted weekly quests since the beginning, but not in addition to daily quests. I want to be able to skip a day and make it up the next day.
These capes don’t have to be final design or price....this is beta after all, don’t forget this. Please send constructive and polite criticism to beta feedback
@low kindle and we don't want them to be ridiculously priced like 883838382hearts or 6363AC
Omg yessss everyone pls give feedback I thought I was alone on this opinion , I really don't want new tiers and side note I'm almost at 100 candle 850 now
I may sound very very evil or something but I don’t think these capes should be visible on the trees until you complete the constellation. Also shouldn’t be visible to friends who didn’t completed the same constellation yet if you wear your own. I just don’t like people using cosmetics for flexing, and making others who started later feel bad. And if u see another person with the cape besides yourself you will know its a vet. 
SURE!
I mean, I’m basically just asking for a game not to demand my fealty for life. That’s all.
The point of ts is also that they repeat. There should be no pressure to grind like crazy people to get something that will return 
I may sound very very evil or something but I don’t think these capes should be visible on the trees until you complete the constellation. Also shouldn’t be visible to friends who didn’t completed the same constellation yet if you wear your own. I just don’t like people using cosmetics for flexing, and making others who started later feel bad. And if u see another person with the cape besides yourself you will know its a vet.
@tender oasis
I kinda agree and disagree with that I don't want the new. Tiers at all
You know, if you ask. Me, for the new capes, i would pay 5-10 hearts more than the original price, not anymore than that
YES YES YES MORE ELDER GIIIIFTSSS 😫
take my hundreds of AC jeez
it's just the elder hair but silver, now pay up 100 AC
Hmm, idrk, I'm scared that even if we get new elder gifts, they'll also be priced ridiculously
tbh id be willing to pay 150 hearts for valley twin paddle thing they hold in the cutscenes if it means i can use it to row boats or wack griefers (joke)
Wait but if they add it doesn’t mean u have to get them if you don’t want to 
I just wanted to save for forest elder in beta,,
@blazing sail I just realized I use ur website for candle cake locations
im fine with it as long as its not looking like unfinished 1st year of graph design
i think bringing back seasons isn’t going to be as glamorous as people think, especially a season like gratitude & lightseekers, the current seasons brought with them new areas to explore & new game mechanics, whereas those seasons in particular where cool when they came out since they were different from the day to day sky but at the end of the day they were just news spirits in different spots you relived once,, i’m not against season’s repeating in some capacity, but i want to be a bit realistic about the idea
Sky redefined the word “gift” 😬
exactly...but I made the math one day, lets say that no TS repeat themselves, if I don't buy the current season adventure pass it could take up to 7 to 9 months for me to get every single spirit from the current season to comeback, so it forces you to think: should I farm like crazy now and get the items from this TS now or wait 7~9 months for it to comeback again? would I be playing Sky in 7~9 months?
In sky we have "gifts" that you can buy for yourself, a very unique thing indeed
Wait but if they add it doesn’t mean u have to get them if you don’t want to
@jaunty bramble
U don't understand my painhow much i really don't want new tiers
Sky: traders of hearts
More like Sky: beggers of hearts
exactly...seasons of gratitude and lightseekers were way simpler compared to current seasons, we only had daily quests to do, no amazing new areas or weekly quests
now i think announcing TS at the start of the month would just ease a lot of peoples anxiety over whos gonna come lol.
im putting this into feedback, i rly think knowing the TS that arrives 2 weeks earlier instead of the day before is alot healthier for players
they repeat but wont be repeating for a long while as TGC will decide not to bring them back this soon. thats how it works
it RNG but they keep the decision of allowing it or not in the end. for sassy spirit, they decided they would allow it to come back but if they decided it would not, it would have not come back until later
plus the more seasons we have, the lower the chance of getting X spirit.... 🥲
why?
exactly
Yeah, they should announce the ts on the day they post the monthly ts date chart.
Poll time?
for no new tiers
for new 600+ heart tiers
True, oops
The thing is that owning cosmetics is a big part of the game. in a season, if there is no cosmetics, what’s left aside from the emotes and the story?(this is a lot already but yk everyone wants the cosmetics) I think what people want to say here is that, cosmetics being a part of the game, it’s not about choosing to get them or not. Once you’ve completed all the realms once, If you don’t want any cosmetics then there’s nothing left to do in the game except chilling with your friends. So if TGC gives a short amount of time in the seasons etc, it can make the players actually feel pressured and it encourages players to always do CR etc.
Aside from that, I think the new capes are cool because, it’s a way for old players to have a new thing to look forward to, and the seasons of course.
But having the same quests everyday/week/MONTH is what is a little boring
more like weeks before the TS comes, adding it to a resume of all upcoming TS
What benefits it'll have?
1.we can plan to farm accordingly
2.noone will skip Their night's sleep just to know what ts it is♥️
600 hearts is like, a year of going around annoying friends begging for hearts
omg wolf you bring up a good point lol. people really do stay up to ungodly hours just for a TS announcement that would potentially disappoint them
to the ~~windoooooow ~~#beta-feedback
I was "ok" with the prices thinking they would be awesome items like awesome pants, a pot/vase from the daylight praire elder that releases butterflies, a mini krill pet lol, not, you know...regular capes with regular colors with small details on them
600 hearts its like.. almost complete all constelations again
You literally thought what i was expecting too
I was also expecting the pot and stuff

But in the end, sadly, it Turned out to be this
600 hearts is like, a year of going around annoying friends
@tired fox
Yes I rlly don't want to> 600 hearts its like.. almost complete all constelations again
@spark lance
Yes 636 for all cosmetics rn
SCREW IT!! lets bring back that one bug in beta that put all the seasonal spirits in orbit. except this time its not a bug its a feature (joke)
i was expecting so many cool stuff for that price but CAPES???? no way NO WAY
see it
Yeah, that would’ve been way cooler
That was the best!
completing the base game is 576 hearts, 636 candles and 75 AC
these new items cost 729 hearts and 75 AC
lol
I guess theres just this dilemma for players regarding the game: they dont wanna grind yet they want to get the cosmetics.
- not everyone can do the “if you dont want it, quit it”. The cosmetics provides a certain incentive for people to stay, because theyre cool. You can say that friends are important, but achievements ingame are also a motivation, since:
- people play with different reasons. I have been on sky since the android launch. But im not particularly into playing with friends. If i find friends here i'd just rather chat w them on some other platform. Sky is a place of oobs, tricks, and well,, cosmetics, really.
- yes im starting to get tired of the grinding. I used to adore this game for its intricate lores and worldbuilding and emotes and cosmetics but my attitude kinda... altered.
- if you have played journey you'd see its stunning similarities w sky. But the intrinsic design of sky has made it a lesser experience. I have only played through journey once and im all mesmerized by its emotional appeal to me and its overall beauty. Sky did include a whole new level of details and stuff we could do but some aspects, e.g. the presence of grinding and chat, actually, diminished the importance of those wordless companionships we form along the way. There are texts in sky, and, sometimes we start to get distracted.
And imo:
- it's ok they add new tiers, but pricing it 3x the og price is a little.. eh
Ok so everyone don't forget to give ur feedback because i Don't think the best way to make playing sky interesting for veterans is to make them grind for months again
i was expect the elders pants, not faded capes
SAME
IDC BRING ME THE GW ELDER SHIEEEEELD
i learned the hard way of what to expect of TGC, so i didn't let my mind wander way too far with expectations. i did expect patterned capes, but not like this...
No it’s cemented for me that this game will never be what I need to to be so after this season I’m done.
thats my only rule with TGC now : dont expect
I started grinding again (I have all items from every constellation and every season as I play since its global release) this monday because of the chance of new exciting items, now that I saw the capes Im like "meh, let's get back to getting hearts from the friend constellation and from the seasonal candles that are turned into regular candles at the end of each season"
expect all you want, but not too far beyond their scope. a jetpack will never be added 😢💔
but its sad you know? to get low expectations after so many frustrations from a game we love
tgc could have added items like a butterfly pot that recharges you for a bit to the constellations since they don’t want to make items that give advantages iaps, but it would set an almost unrealistic goal for players starting out with some knowledge of the game (but still moths) to make it worth more hearts then say the chat table
No it’s cemented for me that this game will never be what I need to to be so after this season I’m done.
@blazing sail
Pain dude pure pain I never want to grind again the joy of having everything and playing for fun not currency so much better
We’ll never be able to fly in sky 😭😭😭
rocket watching this 😤
tbh, I do knew there were new pattered capes, but I was expecting it to be the old beta desings, since many people were asking for, but just for a black thing on the bottom it's not worth the triple the price
Yup, but I can see they’re catering to the folks who like to spend their lives grinding.
These capes don’t have to be final design or price....this is beta after all, don’t forget this. Please send constructive and polite criticism to beta feedback
The idea of hiding them until the constellations are complete would help with that
it's almost near final, and i already said what i had to say
Beta is never final and even live isn’t final
they said the prices are not placeholders 😦
Who said that these designs are almost near final 🤔
2nd ultimate reward ideas
•Isle- staff of the isle elder,
°when used, it'll call birds near you so that you can recharge
°itll have a long cooldown
•prairie- butterfly pot
°when used , it'll release butterfly so that you can recharge and have fun
°it won't have a cooldown but you'll have to fill it again by taking it to an area with butterflies after 3 uses
•forest- hammer and anvil
°a rather unique instrument :0
°the sound will be very cool ans metallic and it'll be a 15 key instrument
•valley- bats and ball
°you can play a minigame with your friend, hit the ball
°i really haven't thought how it'll work, but sort of like the twins play in the cutscene
•wasteland- krill shield
°will protect you and your (moth) friends from a krill danger. Though when used 5 times, it'll be damaged and you have to get it repaired for some Ascended candles
•vault- chat mat
°a floating mat with a vault memory lantern in between
°very much like the bornfire, just much cooler
°8 players can sit
°recharging speed is much quicker than bonfire
You guys forget the invisible cape has been in beta for like a literal year at this point
put that in feedback or wishlist maybe?
We have no clue when these items will go live or how it will look when it’s ready
Yup, but I can see they’re catering to the folks who like to spend their lives grinding.
@blazing sail
I can't grind again , sky feels like a job sometimes when u worry about candles
Ktjn said that "the design is near final but everything is subject to change in beta"
Correct me of I'm wrong
I like what you’ve suggested. It would be nice if you write it in #beta-feedback
well likely close to final is what ktjn said out of context, but still i don't expect dramatic changes
People just panic a lot it seems...Be grateful for new content and ideas, have mature thoughts and write criticisms...it’s the best we can do. We’re lucky to have devs who actually listen and want feedback.
Either way it’s no reason to not give feedback on the designs
Hmm they said the 11 lvl will enter as a 3d model but its not so...?
i’m saying that items that bring utility, table, chibi mask, fireworks staff, like a butterfly pot, shouldn’t be over 30-ish hearts because they bring a small benefit for players and that’s something that should be accessible for all players not just people with a lot of candles/hearts to spend
i already did, twice, and hopefully everyone else in the discussion did already
I mean,,, they’ve changed the design of the enchantment ultimate reward after it went live
The stars on the cape are a separate 3D mesh placed on top of the cape
Exactly, even live isn’t final...
right
Imagine if the new capes were a reward for getting the 11th star instead of grinding endlessly.
Even things like fixes for trials and new changes in caves of proehceies came after it was already in live
ahahzhahzha go grab your black cape for only 300 wings
I also agree with this
The capes are supposed to be for the ppl who have nothing to spend but have over 1000 hearts tho right? And it’s not like u need the capes they’re not going anywhere
Isn't the goal of the fact that it is just lining on the capes and not fancy items so that you don't necessarily feel like you absolutely need them? I mean, you don't need them to get the elder hairs... I think it's a better long term goal you dont have to feel like you need to grind like crazy for necessarily
(banging hands on my desk) V2 table that seats 8 people instead of 4 so you can recreate the last supper in sky
its not like you need to buy the capes to get elder hair either, youre not meant to grind out for two days and get those items
the price isnt a problem. its how not worth their prices they actually are. imo again
the only thing that I don't like about the new capes are the prices, at least they should be like 10 or 20 hearts more, or just double the price, but triple it's a lot
You can say that as much as you want but you know people are grinding for them. I just wish people would stop pretending that the game isn’t encouraging bad behavior by adding these things. People who log in just to hang out with their friends and fly around shouldn’t be bothered by an accumulation of currency they have no use for.
literally i know i'm not supposed to, and i'm not going to, i'll only be buying a few capes if the current design persists, and it's probably just me, but "just don't buy it" isn't really a strong argument
I mean it is kinda annoying to have a bunch of hearts you can’t use, ppl I know straight up reject hearts now
what about those who never get to 100 hearts
"if you dont like it dont do it" doesnt address the core of the issue, so i rly hope through feedback something can happen. definitely wont be anytime soon for big changes to take place though
Ok I'ma be honest here what would make the game more interesting for vets is more stuff like trials which are super nice and not make them grind again and idk why u guys are saying it Should be a better cosmetic in my opinion it Shouldn't be there at all, tgc never ceases to amaze us with with amazing cosmetics every season
i do too, my hearts are stacking up in live, i'm more than happy to have something to spend them on, but still
its like, once you spend them youre gonna be out of stuff to spend hearts on... and youll begin accumulating them again 🥲
Maybe one day there would be an option to gift for free the hearts we have already , would be nice
I mean it is kinda annoying to have a bunch of hearts you can’t use, ppl I know straight up reject hearts now
@lusty light
When was rejecting hearts a bad thing
i wonder if you've seen the most recent pinned message? specifically, this part:
Currency costs associated with items has little to nothing to do with the complexity or fanciness of the items. Some of the simplest items in the game take a long time and a lot of effort to obtain.
The new capes are inspired by the pre-global launch capes, but are intentionally simplified for performance reasons. The team doesn't want them to be fanciful. They are a symbol of being kind to others and building long term friendships.
-Ktjn
i've seen it a hundred times
i do too, my hearts are stacking up in live, i'm more than happy to have something to spend them on, but still
@kindred fossil
Yea who would be unhappy to be stacked with hearts lol
I do reject them, and I always say them to use there candles to give hearts to ppl who still needs them.
I had been rejecting hearts until these came <_<; I had literally 26 hearts sitting in my constellation uncollected because I didn't have anything I wanted to spend them on. And I haven't really bought much of anything in beta personally.
Yeah, but i dont really agree, i think cost should effect the fanciness of the item to at least make it feel worth the grinding
but why were the pre global capes causing performance issues?
It’s an endless cycle.
I do reject them, and I always say them to use there candles to give hearts to ppl who still needs them.
@tender oasis
Giving free hearts to people and see them be happy is a blissful experience
The game is very intensive even now, the performance of the game was way worse in beta
You would crash for looking at the game wrong
basically the cape texture was complex enough to turn your ipad into a grill you can cook your eggs on
The cape patterns in pre launch were also not a static texture on the cape and would break often
i agree with focusing more on in game challenges instead of cosmetics but adding more cosmetics for in game currency instead of seasons only is also something people have been asking for for the longest time, tho yea it could still use some polishment which hey! what better place than beta to add things that are not final and that could use some polishment?
i wonder if you've seen the most recent pinned message? specifically, this part:
-Ktjn
Again seasons Provide us with many amazing cosmetics I don't get the point of this
and so, it should be a static texture on the cape
It's true that Everyone asked for new normal currency Cosmetics, but not everyone asked for 9 same capes with coloured edges that cost 70-150 at average
the issue is how ignored our feedback feels when its not going in TGC's way :(
I mean it’s like how people complain about season ultimate rewards when base game ultimate rewards are just hair
that doesnt solve the issue though, its because the patterns itself take a lot to render. i mean, if you look at the games environments, there isnt much thats textured as detailed or as complex as the capes were
Tgc can’t please anyone, so many people send in feedback everyday and they can’t listen to everyone
people dont pay for these hair, and they are not leaving if you dont get them during a limited time
yea it can seem your feedback gets ignored when theres thousands of beta players and millions of live players that can have different opinions than you do
to be more exactly, 729 heards, 2187 regular candles = 116 days of farming xD
Have u seen the gnomon stream on how they made the environment 👁
I would prefer something like loyality currency. U logged on did your daily or something, you get a loyality candle. U have 20 of those u can get yellow new cape etc. Something which is not dependent of friend number and grinding.
I have hearts accumulated just through natural play and I wouldn’t mind little things here and there to spend on, but these hugely expensive items just pressure people to grind. Whether or not it does that to you personally, you can’t deny it has that effect on a lot of people.
it’s 100 percent the design that is the problem and the blatant lack of failing to introduce an ultimate reward for completing the current constellation. there is no acknowledgement of an existing achievement and what it feels like instead is that the team have thrown on some extra items for all the long term players who have currency to essentially ‘waste’ i’d rather have items that were worth it, these are definitely not
Guys, beta is mainly to test the performance of the game with the added new items. We are basically just bug hunters here. To suggest something like designs is the least of our job description. We can give feedbacks and let them know our wish-lists, but the final decision, the designs, the systems belongs to them.
I know that mods have to support tgcs desicions so I'ma go take a breather and keep my fingers crossed that I can play sky as a game and not for farming candles everyday like a job
The only problem in this new thing is the cape design (which i hope is revamped) and the extreme ridiculousness of the cost.
I don’t have to support tgc decisions they don’t pay me 
lol lol
They have interest in keeping the playerbase happy if they don’t want to lose their jobs.
It’s said in the rules we are volunteers... what did u expect
and no! we're not only volunteer bug hunters lol :)
we're here to report bugs and send feedback about what we think about anything in the game
euhm... if we're supposed to sit here and consent to everything they introduce what is our purpose
i've seen the gnomon stream myself, and the main thing i took away from it is that TGC's engine and approach to optimising seems radically different to what i expect of other popular game engines with how they're willing to up vertex counts while simplifying textures -- it's completely counterintuitive to what i would've thought was the case when using Unity as a comparison 
doesnt mean you shouldnt give feedback on designs, lets take for example the butterfly cape and the manta cape. The butterfly cape got changed a bit because of player feedback, while manta cape didnt get changed as much if not at all because of limitations, even tho some players wanted it to be more intricate
I think is a good idea to add higher cost capes , and even more the capes a lot of players wanted , the first capes ever , || still waiting for the new aviary also ||
But they could've done at least something to the manta Cape, at least somthing, after so so so much feedback, but they didn't
They didn’t because they couldn’t
i literally said there were limitations lol
They could've made the borders have a well designed edge
Noone asked for a huge manta Cape, we just asked for one that doesn't look unfinished
I thought the new capes were just an update of the basic design to give room to the extra wings 😂😂😂
the only thing that irritates me is the fact that the design is almost finalized when it hasn't been in the beta for more than 24 hours. If this doesn't underestimate the testers, then I have no words
We don’t know what almost final means though
would sticking an image that looks like the beta sky capes to the capes we have still cause performance issues? (if that even is possible)
most likely almost finalized, but i don't expect quick changes in 24 hours either
Yeah , the cape rigging just didn't allow it to be bigger than what it is.
And no one actually wanted a bigger cape, just a finsihed one as i said Before
And again, they changed the “final” design of items in the game many times
I feel like a lot of this conversation has crossed the line from "here's my feedback and constructive criticism I hope it helps make the game better" to "I should have stake in the final decisions of this game because I beta test"
our feedback is important but we won't always influence the final decisions. Anyone who's been around long enough would remember how hated the rhythm ultimate hair was but now look at how much people want it. and look at butterfly cape. we did influence that change!
:optimistic: 🌈
Many people asked for a bigger cape with cuts and a separate pair of wings on it
so people don't want the base game to be expanded or what? :v I don't get these arguments, although I agree that the game in various cases needs to defend players from themselves I also think sky does it a lot already, the game needs expansion to the base experience, I was already expecting just a new "design" extra for the base capes, I think they are not worth it :v so I won't buy any new item, maybe the prices is the only things that should change and get cheaper
also I won't be getting 11wedges for my earth day cape (just disappointed :()
Wait capes with special stars don’t have an 11th wing design? :0
Let’s talk about the fact that apparently all the capes have a silver border except the purple one, which has a blue one. That is bugging me to no end, I can’t be the only one?
i think they do sera
They do
special capes have their 11th designs
The earth cape has got 11 wingexrra leaf
they all have
Oh I just misunderstood zeryle then
Yeah, maybe the silver borders are gonna be changed.
And i hope that they're gonna be cause the purple is the only one i like, but that still doesn't justify the cost.
You´re always complaining. Those capes should cost 3257253287532041 hearts. Grind more, complain less.
dark blue, white, purple have those deep blue edges, i'm assuming it's supposed to match the underside of the original capes
yeah but earth day cape is just disappointing for me :v so I wont be getting 150 just for that little change... I think is the tiniest change to a wedge
I am not expecting quick changes either of course, but I'm at least expecting a more epxerimental treatment of the capes for now... It makes me feel like I don't matter as a tester and my opinion will not change anything. Declaring that the design is final before it even has feedback isn't the most efficient testing method imo. Of course I'm not opposed to TGC, I appreciate their efforts but some items really need a re-design
What?@stark sundial
heh? the 11th wedge has no special difference than the 6th wedge, it’s just a design difference...
Wait wth, there’s no updated white and black capes in my constellation 
It’s hidden until you meet the requirements to buy it
I'm still at whatever I was reborn with on live plus wasteland because I got an uber
I could have 150 but that involves collecting them
Earth day cape doens't cost 150 hearts, it'll get that design when you collect 150 wing lights for FREE
where did you learn this?
where does it say the designs are final and no, saying theyre semifinal doesnt not equal to the design being completely finalized
Then why are all the others visible ;-;
No one reads #beta-announcements 
But the patch notes said that it's still in development , that's why
I'm sure you're joking
Can we all settle on the fact that we dislike the design, for most, and focus on bugs
@silent lily when I said 150 hearts? I think everyone knows that I referred to 150 wl, wich is also time consuming :v
those are different
but it said until it's finalized, not meeting certain requirements
Getting 150 wl is 3928383873733883×10^34 times easier than getting 150 hearts
@stark sundial if the game itself is time consuming to you then I don't understand how anything will please you
I do Sera! that's how I knew I could get back on withotu crashing every 10 seconds. and I definitely went through several realms this morning with an ios friend and had them spam beep a lot. no crash 
I’m just teasing lol
Why is everyone complaining about these amazing new capes, I’m just happy to have something new added to the base cosmetics🤩
right
I mean a lot of people don't read them so you're not entirely wrong 
still good that they read beta-updates, heres your gold star kai
🌟
@frozen marsh did you complete every constellation?
they're alright, could be slightly improved, that's all what i've been trying to say
There's a rumor that mods are told secrets about the game by devs through handwritten letters
yes i did
what are you guys talking about? literally I just give my opinion why you keep responding in that way lmao :v @gleaming yacht @silent lily even collecting 150 wl for that change is disappointing for me and I already said I won't be getting that amount for that
do you see the black and white cape anywhere?? i only understood you got them when the null nodes were available
there's a rumor that seraph is the TGC building
lol wolf
the mods are just normal players like the rest of us. they basically only get warnings when the server is going to descend into chaos so they can be ready
just to put the design into perspective for everyone, if you had 0 currency in live right now, would you farm everyday for the current capes designs?
theres a rumor theyre a 40-eyed creature, im sure its true cos its a rumor
Lol imagine handing over letters to all of us mods personally, ash is swimming over oceans to reach some of us
Nowadays these updates are like bombs💥 Sanctuary testing was indeed a vacation in beta chat. 🌴
I could see Ash being that chaotic though 
Yeah, they set the chats on fire
i... don't recall it being lively during beta testing for sanctuary
black cape from stealthy survivor spirit in Wasteland and white cape from memory whisperer in Vault
also btw if someone compare rightfully getting 150 hearts to getting 150 wl with the current amount it took players more than 9 months for 150 wl lmao, in that time I completed all the constellations :v
Cause it wasn't
i could easily read back what happened in 5 mins. Now its like 15

Yeah, devs swimming through the Pacific just to deliver a letter saying 'hello'
the spirits whick hv black cape and white cape each
Idk how i feel about the veteran capes
Yeah there’s a slow drip for winged light but there’s no limit to the amount of hearts you can get
Dark it wasn't. Sanctuary was actually really chill for testing in general once the invite wave hype died. the updates and such didn't get nearly as chaotic
*which
Sanctuary was one of the buggiest Seasons tho
Mods are like ophanims. They have eyes everywhere.
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/84/c5/94/84c5946c57ff2d1d3ef791c6eddc95eb.jpg
That’s why my name is seraph
actually beta enchantment was mostly chill too except for when the null item thing happened 
Have you seen the art moss has drawn of me
The propehcy was one of the least buggy season imo.
Everything, the Cosmetics, constellation, area, trails, was ready with minimal bugs on the First day
Sadly no.
fireboi was missing for ages what are you on about?
Anyone have a good
joke?
you literally couldn't walk otherwise the game would crash
Even skybot is tired
I don't know if they're watching tho...
Skybot are you ok 
That was because the Season wasn't even supposed to come on that day.
Omg skybot, i hope the devs are lurking
Remember what happened to Sanctuary once Prophecy released though
Sanctuary became a lonely land
Nil that actually wasn't the first day of the season technically if ou're talking about floor is lava bug
the game was on a timer to start and there was no code for the season yet so it did a generic intro and then crashed because there was nothing to show after intro
I am back from my break
Dwayne Johnson 
I vote for a Sanctuary party 🎉
Yeah, maybe they were late to push the update Before the timer went boom
this chat truly is a wild ride today
If not for the cakes and wax, Sanctuary will be an abandon island.
why does nobody ask for me? 
It's fun too, i love debaty interesting discussions like this
Poor Skybot wants attention today
I'm watching you, @spice thunder 
i dont see it
i have completed GW but not valley. do you think i'd need both?
that's at least 2 eyes you got there Seraph
i got one but it costs 150 hearts
don't ban me i'm joking lmao
omg sera that's so cool 😮
Seraph needs new capes with holes for their many eyes
i think it’s bcuz those capes have been removed from the constellation after the latest update
And masks with holes
Read...... #beta-announcements -
but do YOU see them?

I'm watching you, @spice thunder
@gilded parrot
Movie time?
Yeah, the people who bought them Before the update have them in the closet
but the other dude said you can get to see them if you meet the requirements
I just want the eden crown ngl 
nah i cannot see in the constellation either. i only hv them in my closet lol
One day....
great thanks.
But You'll have to give 9999 Ascended Candles
A few thousand hearts and u may get it one day

I’d cry and then I’d invent a time machine
farming for and trading hearts requires a lot of effort compared to entering a season. comparing the new cape designs to any of the cape designs in past and present seasons it feels like the team is telling us that they value our money over our time and effort 
i would steal your time machine and then steal the crown
i would steal your time machine and then steal the crown
@empty river
Big brain
I actually did some math on ascended candles bc I was thinking what if the invisible cape cost ascended candles instead of hearts and 999 candles was like..... 2 years
OMG! Banned!
Forbidden subject, cannot compute. 
Of ONLY doing eden every week and not spending on anything else
guess I better start doing eden again 
considering the Anubis mask has somewhat of an halo i'm hoping we can get something similar to the crown
Wait I’m gonna make a meme
Imagine sera invented a time Machine and got famous and won a noble prize
guess I better start doing eden again
@random gull
What if it doesn't make it to live lot of people are against it
maybe if they implement more items for ascended candles they could rise the amount you can get in a week
dream
And it takes forever to die now with so many wings
I don't think "a lot of people" being against the new capes would stop TGC, if this is what they have planned. Besides, this server isn't that big a part of the whole amount of people playing the game.
Okay , but what about those veterans who have been spending all their 1000s of earned candles by sending hearts non stop to Everyone and now have 0
Pumpkin I was joking
I literally can't solo sky right now for health reasons and getting an uber is hard because my friends run one realm and we sit at the end goofing off for 4 hours
Mr.Krill will help you speed up this progress
What a beautiful thing to have done! 
Alsoz i hope if more elder ultimates come, they don't cost more than 100 AC
The more I play Sky, the more the beta discussion channel is my favourite part of the game. Maybe they should add a shop in here.
i could drive you with pleasure i dont mind being that silent 2min uber
Pumpkin I was joking :sLaugh: I literally can't solo sky right now for health reasons and getting an uber is hard because my friends run one realm and we sit at the end goofing off for 4 hours
@random gull
Sorry I'm a lil on the edge eeeek😬
@runic path Actually not really. I started watching netflix when i tried to become capeless cause it was so slow.
Im doing this 7 wings for 7 weeks thing and I'm getting a lot faster and I use wings smarter
what is that?
Beta discussion and lore discussion are my faves
Tho lore channel is a bit intimidating due to some people forcing their theories and proving others wrong
they shouldnt be doing that at all, if you see that please report it omg
I never dare to enter lore, because my memory is like a sieve and I keep mixing things up.
It’s probably been answered but are the new black and white capes missing? I don’t see them at all in my closet lol
what is that?
@strong canopy
Exactly what it says only 7 wedges for 7 weeks
Looks like I killed the chat
@spark lance they're hidden
nah it's good to let beta chat rest a bit 
Lot of angry sky kiddos with different opinions
It's really nice when everyone stops screaming at each other.
so... people want the items to cost less?
also the new black and white have new wedge designs? :v maybe more capes should have it
oh thats good! you'll improve your skills. i did 6 wedges for months i got really better at flying
so... people want the items to cost less?
also the new black and white have new wedge designs? :v maybe more capes should have it
@stark sundial
I don't want new tiers at all seasons give us new cosmetics and they are more than enough
I'm trying to write product specs (for work), but I'm really thinking about getting those last wl in Wasteland and then doing the trials, so I can get 15 wings. 😮
Masterpiece
I've been sticking with 6 wedges ( 9 wedges when I want to Eden ) and I've better accuracy with my flying now 
Like l, 11 wedges is cool and all, but I'm just striving for efficiency as of now till I can get it
thanks for the meme
The Eden crown used to be forbidden here on the server... 
I’m the type of flyer that runs out of power with 11 wedges frequently 💀
mushrooms made my flying skills 😅
I learned my table tricks with mushrooms 🍄😂
I get use to play with 6 and now with 7 I have more than enough
if you talk about it as the item that appeared in some promotional content its ok >_>
It’s only forbidden if you’re talking about anything that’s not the image that tgc has made public for promotional images 👁
Eden crown might be the ultimate for completing all Constellations.
And let's pray that it will be added i that way soon
And also that it's not priced at 999AC
I know, it's ok. 
you can solo eden in less than 2min with 5 wedges so anything above is luxury
2 mins ? Jskxkkksmskakakkd
Skskskskskxs
POV ur the traveling spirit
Not the ascending part tho
the crown also appeared in a video posted by ign i think 👁️👁️
There is currently no ultimate for completing all constellations. The Eden crown was presumed to be that, but it never made it into the game, as far as I know.
But the fact is that who'll give/sell the crown? The king/prince is not there to be saved now so unlikely to make an appearance
I want a crown 👑 👀
Yeah it’s the same image but in a different aspect ratio but I can’t find it rn 
The image I used was from a tweet announcing server maintenance
That's even more funny, somehow.
It's also thr thumbnail of the ign vid
I can't send photos here like u guys can tho🗿😂
Mod abooz
pls demot
I sent it in #beta-screenshots-videos cause i have 1 option :'v
What's happening 
mod shenanigans after the chat calmed down a bit from the update 
the official chinese server website has some promotional images of it too
Can you dm me the site/the images
also one of those images show a cosmetic i've never seen before
Yeah the Chinese server has some cosmetics that we don’t, such as the Chinese kizuna ai collab
not those, screenshots from old beta
the red flower is cute
That flower was for a Chinese holiday I forgot the name of
i will post the screenshots in a bit
national day I think. or at least that's what it translated to on my app
Thank you cause I cannot find them
Not sure they ever had a beta in China.
They did, some of my Chinese friends told me about it but they were timed stress tests
Oh, wow! Interesting!
I found the idea of ripped apart capes unnecessary and bad, I thought there would be like old ultimate gifts to be worth to spend those many hearts, hopefully it does not come to live
I'm still specting the new UI O-O
Wait whats the new capes
The ones at the most above of regular spirits which cost 150 hearts
oke
They aren't ripped, That's Just how the icon looks
Ripped or not, in my opinion there mustn't be regular capes again
Do you think they're worth to spend 150 hearts
lmao
is invis cape still 999 hearts tho?
no, and i won't be spending 150 hearts, not with this design
Does amyone know what the star pattern on founder's cape looks like?
I heard it won't be in live
Doesnt the founders cape have the same stars as the normals
the same as the regular capes... it doesn't have a unique pattern
yeahni know i have beta, but like is it the same price or did it go down
Oh, i saw a fake photo, just wanted to confirm😂
Actually, I’d rather invisible cape to be in live version than the new capes with this design.
Wolfie how long have you been here-
I learnt yesterday that invisicape might end up in Live after all. There is a comment by Ktjn somewhere.
woah where?
Seasons are being repeated or they make new seasons apart from olds?
Seasons aren't being repeated. That's why we have TS.
new capes?
So my saying is logical then, they must give us ultimate gifts somehow
those were the screenshots i was talking about: #beta-screenshots-videos message
Why must they do that? 
Because seasons aren't being repeated as you said and they will be just left where they belong?
But what about the people who spent actual money, when they could just candle farm. Is it fair to bring back ultimate gifts? idk
you can notice a necklace like thing-y on the red cape skykid, i've never seen this
I'm not sure I understand what you're asking, sorry. Seasons aren't going to repeat. That's what TGC has said. Ultimate rewards from seasons will make some kind of reappearance, but we don't know how.
If that's so, then tss mustn't also come because they pay real money for some stuffs too
Is that certain
Well, I don't work for TGC, but this is what they have said. 
Well, they do make TS expensive with candles. Idk, really. Maybe they should make Ultimate Gifts rlly expensive? I think they should bring seasons back, and give the game veterans a rest.
!patchnotes read the ones from March 9th. that mentions ultimates returning
The patch notes for the most recent update are always posted in #news. You can also find them at http://bit.ly/sky-patchnotes
They could have made them appeared for 150 hearts at least, that's what I suggested
ultimates arent coming back for in game currency
Seasons will not repeat at all. Ultimate gifts have the possibility of coming back, but will not be for in game currency. They will most likely be an IAP.
what's an iap?
Seasonal Pendants and Ultimate Gifts will not appear on the Traveling Spirits in exchange for in-game currencies. We plan to bring these items back in another capacity but we have not settled on what that will look like or the costs associated with it.
That makes more sense.
In App Purchase, which is real money.
They shouldn't be appeared real money in return, hopefully this doesn't happen
I will be throwing my wallet at bonfire for sure
just gonna play with my beta bonfire until it comes to live
ultimate rewards are different than just ts items because you either needed to grind quests for a month and more OR you had to buy the seasonal candles in the shop, and that aint cheap
They’re coming back at some point, TGC is just still working on how they will do so.
Many passholders (except those getting gift passes) paid actual money to get access to the ultimate gifts, and on top of that they grind. It's reasonable if they come up as iap
as a reference, it takes about 55 days to finish Season of Prophecy if you have a pass
The prophecy??! don't trust what the Elders say!!
It shan't be cheap but paying 150 hearts also would be a torture to get them, at least you may think this worths to be paid
Where?
As mentioned earlier, the big difference is definitely the fact that people paid money for the pass and many feel that the ultimate gift return should reflect that
!readthepins rawr
what'ss pinss preciouss?
Ahh I see you missed the conversation earlier where I got pummeled for that opinion. 😅
Ultimate gifts aren’t going to cost in game currency
And they’re going to adjust ts prices
tbh if season ultimates can return as IAP I doubt if anyone would still buy adventure pass in the future, unless they return with some incredibly high price (enough to let you complete a season on day one for example)
Theyre gonna change stuff about ts in beta next cycle..
Also some spirits from seasons which have premium stuffs that only can be gotten with real money in return are coming as tss, what I say is, then they also shouldn't come as ts
Do you think the pendants or the ultimate gifts should not be brought back because they’re exclusive to the players that played at that time ? Like something to show « I was there »
Oh. Guess it’s too early to make assumptions.
people were compensated if they bought the pack. For example, all purchasers of the winter musician pack received a pass for Rhythm and did not have to buy the cosmetics that were in the pack
I agree, tgc puts high prices on each singular stuffs like halloween
thats 10 dollars vs the 100~ it would cost to buy out an entire season's worth of candles
They put “high” prices on things as the cost is decided upon how much time and effort took to create the item, as they have to compensate for the time the developers and artists worked on it.
They wanted to put our monthly salary to get all their stuffs from Halloween, you still think it's fair?
You don’t have to buy it
They aren’t forcing you to buy it. TGC devs have to be paid, and be paid a fair amount.
additionally, the price of the Days of Love swing was so high because it not only contained a pass, but the devs (or Jenova? don't remember) felt that it took people out of the immersion of Sky's aesthetic, iirc. They may have had a similar reasoning for the Halloween items
Of course don't but if we want to
Tgc may or may not have made a mistake introducing ts, but once they allowed previously pass-exclusive items to be obtainable via grinding they have caused an irreversible change nonetheless. Perhaps making the ultimate gifts iap is one of those remaining ways to preserve the value of someones actual money
Spending Irl currency and sky currency is quite different
I mean the devs need to get paid via iap to eat just as you need your money from your job eat, you might not be able to afford it yeah but what do you want them to do
TGC has to make revenue in some way, as Sky is completely free to play. If it weren’t for these items and IAPs, that would be much more difficult.
Pls don't say "you don't have to buy" nonsense anymore, if we all think like that then people don't want to buy anything, it's ok if they put labor, but not everyone is rich
of course it's nice to have the ability to buy cosmetic items as IAP, but they're technically not necessary at all to play the game. the default cosmetics are perfectly nice on their own, and the seasonal cosmetics are great. however, the devs ultimately get to decide how to price things based on a lot of different factors, including how much TGC feels that the devs should be paid for their work
If you can’t afford to buy the items and meet your cost of living then you just don’t buy it, it’s not the devs responsibility for your financial decisions
the season cost around $100 if you wanna complete it in day 1, I don't think it needs to be that high since also take in account that the amount of time daily you need to complete the season is around 10 minutes, a price around $15 - $20 USD is perfect imo since the ap also gives you a lot of other advantages like arond 90-100 additional candles, getting double the items around 4 months ahead until they have the possibility for 1 spirit to return and progressively all of them, the value of the AP still enough for 10 buck imo tho
TGC puts lots of thoughts into how they price their IAPs. They make it the cheapest that they can while still making sure that the developers are getting enough money for their time and effort. It wouldn’t be fair for them to be underpaid just because we want cheaper costs.
would it be great if there were more affordable options for the cosmetics? absolutely. that's what #beta-feedback is for
the halloween IAP was about 4 hours wages for me
I just did some math. the international currency conversions really aren't up to TGC so something that seems fairly cheap here can be much bigger chunk of wages eslewhere. the world's economies are all different
And also the most purchased IAP ie the adventure pass is quite low in price, and it has many benefits
sorry to budge in off topic, but in #beta-feedback can I post fan based ideas that people have in screenshots that I agree with as a suggestion? Or like a path to go down
No don’t use other people’s work for your feedback it’s rude
And anyways, Ideas and suggestions go in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
Like the halloween IAPs, many people thought they were overpriced, but they are a seasonal thing and you dont know if they will come back!
Unless they’re regarding beta features (like the capes), then they go in beta feedback
okay so... opinion on the new cape designs: i dont like them. they look pretty bland?? and pretty overpriced-

You have to use your own work for wishlist suggestions and or feedback.
I ment for the cape designs yes sorry!
@raven cedar Can :v I ask you how you got that design in 4 wedge of do you photoshopped that? :0
You dont have to like them go to pins
Not photoshop
then how :/
@stark sundial secret 👀
Even i think some of them are overpriced. So, i just dont buy them. It's not like i won't be allowed to play Sky if i dont buy it. I'm already grateful that this game is free and with no ads and also keep in mind that iap are their only source of income
They’re priced that way as they are a symbol of friendship and kindness. They look more simple as they can’t be their old designs due to how the game runs with them. They are a homage to the original beta of Sky.
I am eternally grateful that sky does not have ads 
delete that please if it's the case that's not a glitch/bug @raven cedar
@raven cedar hacking is against the terms of service and the #rules of this server. If you post any more hacked content you will be muted at best
Okay 🤷♂️
Tho I'm not quite with the new capes and it's price especially, and i think that's totally okay
Being vague makes you suspicious and it's not something we allow here to avoid illegitimate means of obtaining things in the game, and i hope you all understand that. Please share your "secrets" if they are legit or we will take action against it
Any constructive criticism can go to #beta-feedback but please, don’t just go there to complain. The developers worked hard on it, and only want to improve with your help. 
Also yall remember the cape designs are not ragged, they have a silver outline 
It's alright if you only have negative things to say, and you hope this design never makes it into the game in any way. Just be kind when sharing that opinion with them
If they price something "they should" consider what people can afford, not according to company's own joy, you might be rich enough to get them but not just you who plays this game so this thing you said is absolutely nonsense
Vita the game is free. 30-40 ish people do need some income (TGC)
Not everyone can afford everything and that’s ok, the devs could just make everything free but then how would they get paid
In the end none of these items are needed
It's fine to think an item is overpriced and suggest they should change the development process so it costs less, but it's important to remember those decisions take a lot of thought and time and there are millions of other players they gather feedback and data from to make them
Yeah, it's not like I'm being rude in feedback or anything, i understand and I'll definately suggest what i think but ofc without rudeness
It's not even like these items impact gameplay in the slightest
The developers can’t go underpaid just because we want the items to be cheaper, that’s just not how it works.
They have millions of players, they in every way can get their money, it doesn't have to be expensive
Please consider what has been said above.
it's not just their paychecks though. running servers for 50 million players is not cheap
Also you guys, remember that the game is free and has 0 ads (im very very very thankful for that
) and IAP is the only way they make money through the game, so without IAP we might not even have sky 
And this is what I know
You never know that @brazen kite , did they tell you their income?😂 jk , don't take it seriously
you also have to consider that TGC doesn't really have any control over the international prices. in US maybe the prices are not that expensive, but in other countries it might be much more expensive
they don't really have any control over that
They also have to pay for their office, equipement, the servers, not just their personal income comes out of those IAP'a
We have no means to know how they make their financial decisions. It's alright to disagree and share your thoughts in #beta-feedback/ #live-feedback
The costs involved are much larger than just the incomes of the devs and other employees. Also, it is okay to not be able to afford certain in-game items but do not get toxic over it please

Theu don't have to, you can even think about by yourself :)
It’s super hard to follow conversation here cause of the reply feature 
I think the new designs are a little too simple to be pricing up to 90 hearts for purple cape, regardless of if they impact gameplay, it should still be worth it, I love the new designs cause they look like feathers and wouldn’t mind grinding for the green cape cause the grey suits that cape but not so much the other capes.
annnd I just realized you’re all probably talking about ultimates
My USA friend even told it's expensive 🤷🏼♂️
how much is it exactly? in usd
Are we talking about all IAPs btw or specific stuff?
If the designs were what Wintercat made, i would easily pay that much hearts
I'm in the USA, it is expensive, but if I like the item, then I'll buy it. But if I know I can't, then I don't, simple as that no problems 👍
the halloween packs equaled to about $55 usd for me. that's just under 4 hours of wages for me
Woah. Good morning! What did I just wake up to? 
good morning!
The reply feature 
Goodmorning uwu
What if most people think like that and don't spend money then where is the logic of putting prices high
Maybe their reasoning isn't getting as much money as they can
If you have such a problem with it, then go suggest they lower their prices in #beta-feedback
i agree with the reply thing
I personally really enjoy the new capes! I do think they are a bit odd tho, but the design concept was awesome,m and remember that they work hard on it
It's okay, Let's keep this a beta discussion and not a financial budgeting channel, also Everyone's wage is differnet so noone really can understand what the other one feels, but it's okay for the iaps to be a bit expensive, they don't get stuff for free, they also need money to live like us

Yeah let's talk about something we all have: hearts in game for the new items being tested in beta 
That's kind of the problem, it was 4 hours of work for you, but here in india (and many other countries, I'm sure) it is around 20-30 hours of work for many people. But again, since these items do not affect gameplay in any manner, it is futile to fret over not being able to buy them no matter how cool they are. There are many other cosmetics in form of TS, seasonal items, spirits, etc.
mirian thats debatable lol
Also guys, their point is to make the game as best as possible and get as many players to enjoy the game like we do, please to put hate on tgc on something they may or may not do 
I probably could never get one of those new capes haha
I have like 5 hearts in beta
You can't be sure if i even have 1🗿
I have 0 hearts haha-
Mirian, I spent my last hearts on black cape I dont have any more 
Anyway I suggest you to feedback them like me for making 150 hearts things as old ultimate gifts, if anyone agrees then I'm happy
Same, i have 1 heart in beta 
Myx I already mentioned that TGC doesn't control international currency exchange rates and different economies are different
Are you automatically signed up.for Beta testing? Or do u have to sign up?
I have 67 hearts in beta 😳
And 2 in live 
Yeah, I'll definately suggest them to either revamp the design or decrease the price or both if things become too good
check out #beta-faq ! we have to sign up again each new season
More like run, scream and join
oh the anxieties of beta waves 
I seem to make it in pretty easily every time. Guess I'm just lucky to be on when the invite goes out
the whole server is on fire when the beta waves hit 
it's like a tsunami
When the first wave came out at 2am my time 
Also the invis cape went down right? To 150 or-
im asking because i have a friend who completed the game and doesn’t have beta and i cant get on rn haha and she has been saving up for 999 hearts on live 
Question: are the new capes at the outfit shrine what the new items supposed to be like?
I’ve made it in every time with no troubles, but I still get a tad anxious every time! Maybe it’s because of all of the craziness going on in chat 
with the new wing buffs how much would be the wing buff count in the base game?
I have been waiting for some kind of excuse to use that emote thank you Wren 
No its still 999 hearts
They are normal capes with an outline!
#beta-screenshots-videos has tons of photos of the new capes that were put out for testing! 
I'm wondering if it's a good idea to let the outline of red cape to be golden xD
The invisicape is not on live 😐
In Live? It hasn’t been released players are testing it for those who have beta,
Val I love that emoji. It perfectly encapsulates the beta tsunami wave effects on the server 
Oooh yes different colors for the outlines would be amazing
I know! She kept saying it might come and i told her its a beta thing so im wondering that 
Are the newer capes coming to live then?
The red cape with a golden trim would love fabulous! Same with the white cape!
Lol, if the day invites come the Chanel is on fire, idk what will happen on the day an update for AP09 comes
wait so stuff closer to the old beta capes? 
The dark blue cape with white outline
Honestly all of the capes would look awesome with a gold trim, but that’s probably because I love gold so much

I'm asking just for a quick count :v
Keep suggesting in #beta-feedback
I'll pray for your wishes to be heard

Candle cape anyone?
Honestly anything except that grey edge would work for me🗿
Are the new outlines capes coming to live 
You could light the edges of fire 
And burn down the Prairie
We’re not sure Rawr. They’re only being tested right now, and have only been out for a short period of time.
so there's 9 new wing buffs? 
I have too much gold in my outfit,
for selfish reasons id like the edges to be some shade of red
It seems like they want the new capes to go live, but anything can happen in beta
They need to test it first so let’s wait and see what happens 
That gives the
emote another pack of meaning

Well, they're in beta for a reason 
wait currently in beta ?
Hello
I am beta tester do I need to get the invite when the new season come to keep playing or no? 🤧
I think so... if every cape have new wing buff, so it could be 48 wing buffs in total in the base game?
yes, you have to regain access each access wipe
Getting to 11th star would be a lot easier now if each ascension gives us a WL 
i have 75 hearts in live
and 0 in beta
if this comes to live and we have all of the new wing buff imma actually think that I could be in 150 
im ready to the new capes ohhh yeaaa
is still ~~75 extra ac iirc so yeah it could reduce the amount of ts needed but it also add a lot of eden weekly visits
I have 143 wl right now without having gone to eden since a few of the TS's 😩
I've got 168 acs in live
I'm ready to buy it out
If they made these capes simple so that the devices won't lag, then, can anyone tell me how enchantement Capes exist without Burning my phone?
me too I have 210 
I honestly don’t think a white or black cape with an outline is cool enough to go through getting 150 hearts 
I would totally work towards it though if it were one of the old cb cape designs
boy what did ya think about the new capes?
Not fan of the gray thing that they have, looks kinda weird
I didn't liked that much, but the blue, black and white ones were beautiful
I would say that the point of comparison between enchantment capes and base game cape is those cuts that the base game capes have and make every in between cut cape part more hardware consuming, enchantment doesn't have them and they spend that in adding layers to the cape, this is just an assumption tho
Me, not a big fan of the new capes: “hmm I wish someone could come up with a different design”
Also me, an artist: “oh wait, hold my beer”
I think they could have optimized the light await capes for us
actually it's more like shiny silver while playing, not that bad
or they are shorter cuts in enchantment?
Dunno, I was really hoping for this capes to be prettier than they are :// but I'm positive that TGC may change a little the design for the global
Me, not a big fan of the new capes: “hmm I wish someone could come up with a different design”
Also me, an artist: “oh wait, hold my beer”
@mellow mason sorry for the ping but i saw your design and omg I’m in love
Enchantement shrug and playfight capes have those cuts too 🗿
I don't think they are so long tho
Yeah
Aaaaa thank you so much!!! I’m glad you like it 
I just had a look at the designs by @/Wintercat96, they’re beautiful 
I love those designs as well
Winter i love those Designs. I would actually pay the asked price if i get those Capes
Thank you guys aaaaaaa

the other thing it’s like...idk they look like chopped with a scissors sorry 
I don't know what they look like, cut paper, pancakes, or whatever, they just....ahhj. don't look good, that's my opinion
silver/blue just doesn't fit every color, looks good with some, others not so much
I love the glow on those capes as well, the design is simple so it wouldn’t overheat the device but enough to where there’s a difference, and it looks lovely, I would absolutely go through the hassle of getting 150 hearts for those capes
Of course I’m talking about wintercats capes, I’m not fond of the actual ones in beta sorry
i would for purple, that's the only good looking one
Guys everone go to feed back and write his opinion tabout new capes they will change if ppl don’t like it
uuuh wait, are we talking about the redesigns or the current designs?
oh wolf enchantment have also less cuts Im gonna send screenshots in #beta-screenshots-videos
red it’s looking nice for me so far
i'd love yellow, but... #beta-screenshots-videos message
Dark
my friend Mochi is legit wearing the new yellow cape right now
Who else hopes that these Capes get a plastic surgery or smthn?🗿
Lmaoooo Dark 
whew, just finished backreading five hours' worth of messages
interesting convo for sure! this chat is really all or nothing activity wise 
oof Voi I didn't even try to backread when I woke up
i logged back into my old account to be greeted by it
"what am i looking at..."
I wasn't awake enough to backread that much. I'm still not 
Lol, today's chat was very interesting imo and fun
dark you got back in! say hello to your no-longer-cursed cape for me 
Which one did u bought Dark
Hmm, was that the first wave ?
Will there be another huge wave of discussions about the new capes hours from now ?
Dark why do I feel like u would love to wear that cape in wasteland ? 
ami <_<
i bought yellow
you can start one now Sal
as long as is keep it respectful between everyone
sal the discussion will most likely continue for the foreseeable future, just as the ts update discussion 
Mochi bought the yellow one too. I'm aiming for teal myself so I'm a ways off
but I'm still laughing about the highlighter yellow safety vest
I was about to drop a few while chat was still zooming but gave up halfway writing and burnt out with everything going on at that time. Couldn't catch up so I just sat there and reacted with emotes

Guys I'm kinda lost rn- so let's say that I was completing a constellation with one of this new capes, if they are added to live, I will have to buy that new cape to actually complete the constellation?
i love love that tgc is adding new content to the constellations for veteran players! im not a big fan of the cape designs either 💔maybe they tgc is still working on them?
the new capes aren't part of constellation completion moonlight, no no
The green cape has some value to me despite me not having bought it at all after I promised myself I would after I got that wing buff so I’m aiming for that one 
Wait
Who pinged me here???
check your recent mentions
It's so hard to spot pings now
mamabear it was mentioned that they're close to finalized but everything in beta is subject to change before it hits live so we really don't know. best bet is to provide your feedback in #beta-feedback and just watch for updates 
And keep your hopes up
Do you think that after completing the capes we're gonna be able to buy more things from the elders? Boy I wanna vault mask so bad
Nope i dont think so, There are no new ultimate Elder gifts as now
It'd be nice if they added more elder cosmetics. I wanna be a tiny Valley elder.
thank you @random gull i posted feedback in that channel 💕
✨ VALLEY PANTS ✨
-sprints to wishlist-
YEAH, BOYYY. VALLEY PANTS.
Thats would be awesome...some ultimate inspired in the elders clothes 
I already made a huge list and put it in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived regarding more ultimates ;
capeless in live 🙏🤤
Can we? I've never seen someone wearing vault mask, for example. Like, literally the grandma mask
I want my spirit robe and sandals hhhhhhh
how can i view @mellow mason cape designs?
They’re in #beta-screenshots-videos if you’d like to check them out!
The mask is simplified but yes you can get it
ok tysm!! 💕💕
Maybe one day 👁️
Also, for some reason i thought the navy cape Spirits tier will have the mask he wears (not really a mask, it's a tall head thing and is differnet from the scholar mask and the vaukt Elder mask) but
wintercat, those are beautiful! actually those design concepts were exactly what i had imagined the new capes would look like. u totally nailed it!
Aaaa thank you so much!! I’m glad people like them
💕
Even though if they can't make it that detailed, i hope they add a glow, just that will make them worth it
The purple cape used to glow and I’m pretty sure that’s one of the reasons it caused overheating
So the 11th wedge design is already out in beta?
But the Butterfly cape glows too
Not to mention all the lightseekers capes...
Imma be honest
I kind of forgot about the lightseekers capes
Well then let’s get some glow 👁👁
They have so much detail going on, even the enchantement Capes,
I wish they could at least give us something that explains why is the design like this (if it remains the same) like they did for the manta Cape
But then again, it's only barely been a day, i think I'll be a bit more patient
the pins have something said about why the designs are the way they are #beta-discussion message 
Well, i mean any explanation from their side would be appreciated
Yeah, kind of, well, leave it :)
How much is all the capes? :o
I finally bought all my buffs from the spirits (pre new update with new buffs). I thought it was possible to get 10 wedges without Eden and new trial stars?
Or no? I can't remember because it's been so long
x3 of the original price (ex: white cape is 50, meaning the new one is 150)
total for all capes is 729
Thank you hehe
The new ones? I think it was like 729
Thank you thank you
that new star design goes AMAZING with the red gratitude cape 
What does the new design look like?? I can’t load beta rn for some reason :l
how do i send a feedback? do i need to just dm skybot or?? its making me anxious lolol
there's screenshots in #beta-screenshots-videos
there's some pictures in #beta-screenshots-videos !
feedback can go in #beta-feedback for beta
Dark circles
oops wrong channel
sorry
huge
chibi
i clearly can't multitask today 
So with these new cape designs, do we have more wing buffs?
yes, 9 more
9? if it makes it to live ill have around 149 wl. one more for 11th star 
Yay thats awesome. Excuse me but I have some mathing to do now. Gonna see how many wings I need till 11th star. I'm very far from it but maybe these new buffs will get me closer
p l e a s e come to live soon I need those wingbuffs 
Is beta crashing for anyone else?
@ionic bluff nah we should let these capes go thru a few more beta updates before coming to live. Needs some more changes imo
I’ll hit 154 I think if that happens 
spazz did you download the update today? the crashing issues should be fixed now
Ah I didn’t thank you
I guess u can say the capes need some changes, in all I don’t really like the designs but ktjn said they aren’t supposed to be fancy
But still, i understand that they aren't supposed to be fancy, but at least make them look appealing in a way
^that
I really still hope they change tho, just a cape with an outline doesn’t seem that appealing enough to spend 45-150 hearts on a single one of them
For the new capes are they all gonna stay the grey-ish and black color for the accents or will that possibly change?
Beta is always subject to change 
can't say for certain
it’s always possible it could change in beta. Everything in beta is subject to change
Ah right, I keep forgetting
Spazzzzzz
Does anyone have any pictures/videos of the new capes charging under different lighting? post in beta screenshots and tag me if you do
what does 11th star looks like?
Scroll in #beta-screenshots-videos , there are pictures here and there!
How come @frozen marsh has pictures of white, pink and black capes? They’re not showing up on my game. Just asking though
Am I the only one who doesn’t like the new capes??
beta doesn't have a question and help server?
i'm so lost and i need help finding new heart capes prices and is it confirm that, that will be the price for when it continues forward to live version?
No, you're really not alone , you might be in the majority actually
Let’s maybe not use the snowflake emoji in that way
There are prices in #beta-screenshots-videos if you scroll a little!
So, I haven’t unlocked new cape yet but my vault constellation is 100%. Can I get elder hair??
Gotta go get that 🥚 now!! Bye!!
I want an ocarina too, and I will call Epona with it. 😂
(I saw your name)
oh, really?? I didn't know it
Well, imagine you walk into a clothing store to purchase clothes. Obviously most of the clothes will not please you and you will not buy the ones you didn't like. Sky is almost the same. a cape may not be to your liking but it will be to the liking of thousands of other players. I liked.

so i’m update the testlight app but it failed and now the beta sky doesnt in it anymore 
are you sure you're logged in into the correct ID? try restarting your device, or leave it be and come back later
the maximum amount of wedges available right now is 11 and only the the first wedge on top can display the new design so any pic showing more than that is through illegitimate methods, against tos and not allowed to be shared and discussed here 
did they change default fps on android snapdragon to 60fps?
@latent palm please don't ask the same questions in multiple channels. this is beta chat for discussion of beta topics and that question is best asked in #questions-and-help
i was asking about beta lmao i sent it in the wrong channel
It feels so surreal to see the 11th wedge as an actual thing...we’ve come so far...
I remember getting my 9th star was such an accomplishment back in the day
NEW CAPESSS
Showing off lol
Is it still possible to get back to the old capes
The new capes aren't replacing the old capes, they are just additional cosmetic items that you can unlock. You can still use the original versions if you want to
If these cosmetics come to live then will you have to unlock all of them as well to complete a constellation?
No
i hate that the devs killed trial speedruns.
Yeah, it says in the #beta-announcements about it
🔸 These tiers will not count toward Constellation completion progress to unlock their respective Ultimate Gifts
trial of earth had a major skip that saved 3 minutes and the devs were just like nope and blocked it. not like a casual player was gonna find it anyway
If you ask me, that just makes speedrunning it more interesting...
and who cares if they find it. its a skip! who doesnt like skips!
it kind of makes earth trial way too easy though, you just climb up the wall and walk to the end 
well it took me like 3 hours to add versions to the leaderboard and organize the runs lmao
Devs who designed a challenge don’t like skips that goes past all that
I’m sure designing the challenges took much more than 3 hours 
i can code a game 2d game in 24 hours lmao
do you often play trials in Live?
from 1 to 5 my opinion about new cape is 0, sorry no creativity, dear tgc
I'm sure coding a game in 24h wouldn't make it a polished game though
and sky is a 3d game not a 2d game
bet
@spark lance just once for every trial, i don't give a damn to take wing of lights in there after my eden reborn
Spoiler!
||so like when the new capes will be introduced will you be able to complete the constellations without them?||
also you can skip to the last checkpoint in the air trial from... the 9th checkpoint:
#seasons-events-chat message
pretty sure you don't need to spoiler beta things here because this is a beta channel
Probaly, but just wanted to be sure
i heard about some 9 WL in addition in beta ? can someone explain to me pls
from the new tiers
Ktjn mentioned in the update post that the new tiers won’t count toward completion. I’m guessing that you can get the elder gifts before the new stuff
?
the new wing buffs?
every spirit having a cape in its tree has got a new tier added at the end of this tree
this tier is a new wing buff + a new cape
@rustic imp yes you can
yes, that, that makes it 9
AAAAh ok lol i was already aware in fact hahaha sorry everyone
i thought it was about something else
Oh a new wing buff too? that’s a lot of new wl

bc there are 9 new capes right ?
I wonder where the null items went
maybe they got moved to orbit ? Or is it like what the updates said and they’d get implemented later, thou none of the items that had the null symbol were were given an icon like it said unless I’m a) remembering wrong b) getting beta updates wrong or c)discord hates me
beta should be at 159 wl right now with the new buffs iirc 
they got hidden, not moved to orbit
there were 9 buffs (one for each cape) but the pink, white and black capes have been removed. probably for improvements. so only 6 new buffs at the moment
@tiny umbra c 🖖
er...?
let's not ping people unnecessarily
could react to their post with 🇨
I can get a max of 156 in beta .. (didn’t get all eden seasons bug buffs
)
And missing a few new wing buffs too..!
So there was an item above memory whisperer from vault constellation with 150 hearts. It’s gone. I did unlock the wing buff. Did I get it 
That ones been hidden since it’s not in game yet, probably in the next few updates it’ll come back
i guess it's the new white cape, but no you didn't get it haha, just the wing buff
does anyone have the total amount of hearts needed to unlock all these V2 capes ?
729
Does anyone hear that? It is the sound of my soul crumbling away.
OOF
thank you tho hahaha
Sneak stance just became the most expensive spirit
2 hearts ahead of memory call
black cape ?
Finally got to see new cape so was mad at first but now I’m in love!!
i just got the second yellow cape and i'm just.. meh. something is missing or off with this design, but I can't really place it
yeah they look unfinished
I don’t have 150 wings yet, I’m curious to know what the design looks like. 
there are pics of 11th wedge in #beta-screenshots-videos
I liked them in night mode homespace
I dont think is surprising that I like the cheapest more :v, you get great value for your currency
@silent ingot there are 3 other capes that have been removed (for the moment at least) so potentially 3 more wing buffs, for a total of 9 🙂
Yes I noticed that some colors were missing haha ^~^ Thanks you @spark lance
Hello! Sorry maybe I was thrown out of the loop but why is tgc adding these new capes? Is it for wing buffs? (Also the one that gives off the purple effect is hilarious!)
People wanted the old beta capes in the game, so they tried to make something like that but not as demanding on our phones
Aeras the devs said that bringing back those capes was the original intend or how? 
Would anyone be able to tell me all the prices for the new capes? (Hearts and ascension candles to unlock)
Also! I can’t preview the capes on Beta, does anyone know why I can’t? Thanks guys!!
The prices are x3 the prices of the base capes and wing buffs! You should be able to preview most of the new capes if you've updated. Currently you can't preview the pink, white, and black capes unless you bought them in the previous update
Aaaa the thanks buddy!!
yep, so for example the purple cape is 30*3= 90 hearts
yeah, but it's fan-made, looks nice
yeah if it's not from official TGC sources it's fan made content. cool but probably not gonna happen in game
I know it's fake but God it would be cool if tgc saw it
@stark sundial
The new capes are inspired by the pre-global launch capes, but are intentionally simplified for performance reasons. The team doesn't want them to be fanciful. They are a symbol of being kind to others and building long term friendships.
From ktjn on the capes. They are inspired by the old capes, but they are just extra things to show off your friendships
Players have been asking for old capes to come back though
They were too resource intensive or something, so they had to be simplified
Yeah, the way the old capes worked caused a lot of issues, so they were taken out
show off... that will be take in another way, weird flex but okay :v
I barely can see the similarities 
Imagine if old capes came back once Sky releases on stronger consoles 
i expected patterned capes, not as detailed as light awaits, but an extremely simple pattern
There will always be people who want to flex, whatever the cosmetic. We should all just try to take a step back and look at what we want instead, rather than compare with others.
I was expecting some dual color kinda like big line on top of the wedges like a racing car 🏎️ or something to change the colors of the trail that our hands left while flying
From what I’ve seen so far, I like the dark blue and the purple ones best, because the edges blend well with the main colour.
yeah, those are the only ones i might buy if nothing drastically changes
Wait so do we have official pics for the remaining ascended capes?
I think I saw them on #beta-screenshots-videos but idk if its edited
those are official, they bought them before they were hidden
I don’t want to be mean, but some out the outlines look a bit like when a 5yo tries to colour in a picture.
I think I expected more details, maybe?
oh thank god, white cape looks like a carton cutout
I’m still not a fan of the uncertainty in the way the pattern is drawn, feels like whoever designed it was shaking their hand
I see that the discussion is still going strong, but not raging
Yeah the new capes just aren’t my thing. Apparently they’re inspired by the preglobal capes but I just don’t see it? It looks like a cape with an outline, nothing else
I think I'm going to add to the flurry of edits 
the more the merrier
Ah, my screen glitch curse has extended to the point where the bottom of my laptop screen is also flickering and glitching 
Hopefully the edits give ideas to the devs
I feel like the problem isn't necessarily the lack of ideas, but more the struggle of implementation... I don't know, though, I have no clue how Sky's game engine works 
...Oh, and the cape lines change color depending on where you are? That's fun, I wonder if it's intentional... 
That’s just lighting
yeah lighter capes in general have different hues in different areas lighting so the silver/grey would look different under different lighting too
Right... It's just that since there are two different colors now, I guess the lighting can create some really discordant hues 
were there good or bad opinions regarding the new capes? or maybe it was mixed? I am not informed
everyone has different opinions so both. chat was nyooming this morning about it but I think it's at a point it's easier to keep up with now. Majority beta opinion seems to be that people think they're too plain or too expensive 
seems mixed to me
small_orange_diamond Tiers for non-seasonal Spirits who have items that are not implemented are hidden until their respective items are ready
Can someone pls help tell me what this means?
I kinda like them myself. I wish the linings were darker but the plain design fits with base game sky stuff. I mean our 100% completion elders are fairly plain too. like vault right now I"m 75% completion and still have 100 hearts to go.
Some of the spirits that have base cosmetics had items that were shown as being null, so I assume they hid those until they're implemented fully
there are items that aren't implemented in the game yet so the icons got hidden until they add the item to the game. it just means the icons we saw last update disappeared for a reason
Ohh i see! Thank you all
i settled that i have a love-hate relationship with those capes, some look good, some don't, still needs to be improved
🔹 Ultimate item constellation should no longer display the wrong icon
anyone knows what was the issue they fixed pls?
must be referring to when you finish a seasonal constellation, all regular constellations "?" icon turns into the seasonal 100% flag icon
not entirely sure but that's a wild guess
that would make sense 
can't know for sure since prophecy ended
oooh i see. its totally possible
What will happen if i deleted my beta due to space storage problem. Then i reinstall it again
As long as you saved your account's recovery code or linked it to Gamecenter or Google, it should be okay
Yeah. I did it even before. As long as gamecenter is on. Once i reinstall it and my gamecenter is on. It automatically relods my data
Yup, sounds like you already know what you're doing 
bruh the new capes are so spendy 💀
i hope the heart prices will be lowered to a reasonable price for live players.
Yeah I’ll be honest 150 hearts for a cape with an outline I feel is a little too much... 
I feel like they explained the reasoning behind that pretty well in the pins, though. It's a non-flashy way of showing people that you've been around for a while/have a lot of friends, which suits the relaxed, friendly style of Sky.
I like it better than people flexing their seasonal cosmetics 
Since some of the new capes require ascended candles, do you get two wing buffs from those spirits now?
Edit: neat, I’ll be able to get my 11th wing then :D
I said I would make edits but I made concept art instead 
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Don't get excited when I say concept art, it's nowhere near as flashy as some of the other art 
hey! every art is unique in its own way 
Turtles when
In boneyard but it’s dead now
Any thoughts why i cant install properly my beta. I deleted it and trying to reinstall due to space. Is it due to testers still enrolling for a vacant slot. Ps. My internet comnection here is really poorest
Follow up. In live almost 3 weeks more before the season ends. The new season will start in beta soonest right. 2 weeks after the season ends. Am i right as per previous setup.
Is there any changes in the capes now?
Hi dayz ! there are no purchasable cosmetics this days of giving, since it’s only a hearts event, but there may be one for the winter holiday event like there was last year
Uhmmm, I'm scared of the news capes and wingbuffs cause... well..
I have a few realms completed anddddd
It means that i have to buy everything upcoming again to unlock the hairs again?
🔸 These tiers will not count toward Constellation completion progress to unlock their respective Ultimate Gifts
Oh no?
The new capes will not count toward the constellations, so you can buy everything besides the new stuff and still get your elder hair, plus if you already have it there is no need to get it again 
Phew that scared meh
my phone b up-to-date on beta but my ipad is still on the build of thr capes crashing wow 
im killing my storage on purpose
That’s bcuz i bought them in advance when they were shown as a ∅ item. So that’s the reason why i hv those capes. They hv been removed in the constellation now but i still hv them in my closet.
u must have a lot of hearts
for everyone that wants more complicated designs for the capes, keep in mind that sky's engine can only hold so much texture data. the reason capes are currently that simple is that it's basically required to be like that for the game to function. i might be a bit wrong, but after watching the devs' panel they mentioned that there were texture constraints, that's why a lot of the cosmetics are flat colors. anyone can correctme if i'm wrong but this is my personal theory as to why the new capes can't resemble light awaits' capes
meanwhile the new seasons coming in with cosmetics that all have textures
@finite meteor new season ? prophecy is still ongoing in live, beta doesn’t have any info about a new season
We don’t know what the new season has coming in though.
its probably set up in a different way than the old light awaits capes
i meant the seasons that have happened ‘ and all seasons have had new cosmetics, and all those cosmetics have textures
i dont know much about texture limits in games, but since new content has been coming almost every month with new cosmetics and things more and more textures are used to where it seems endless
the only one i can think of is aloha cape? everything else is pretty solid color w/low textures such as lines, or some small shapes. nothing as intensive as the old light awaits capes
You know the tinfoil effect on sweets after you cook them ? The capes kinda look like that and while I still don’t absolutely hate them they make me hungry
mini conversation through reacts xD
What do u guys mean by “the old light awaits capes” ??
sky used to be Sky: Light Awaits
the capes that were in pre-launch, their designs were completely different
there used to be an old cape design in the early beta version of the game-light awaits, which was really complex and detailed. looked very pretty but was super resource intensive so they got removed
Ahh okie. Thank u for answering ☺️
I have more concepts but I'm afraid they're going to take up a lot of space 
dunno if this is the place to ask but i keep seeing people call those new capes "veteran capes" is there some requirement to have them available or can any player get them regardless of when they joined?
Nah, they just cost a lot
You can get them regardless of when you joined, as long as you have enough currency. I personally don’t like calling them that, but it’s understandable cause the idea would be someone who has 100+ hearts to afford some of these new capes would presumably be an older player who built up lots of extra hearts
i figured that was the case, thank u. cant wait to spend the next 3 months grinding for one single cape 😔😔😔
Heh, I’ve been playing since global launch, completely every constellation and only have 320 hearts 
how 
If office cape would get an upgrade, it would cost 60 bucks.

would it be exactly $60 or $59.99 though 👁️
Heh i had a little break during the belonging season
ive been playing since lightseekers are you a sky god wh
I’ve been around since gratitude but this is getting a little off topic lol
I feel like if they just made the trim of the cape match the white from the inside of the cape it would go a long way. The gray or silver is the third color now and just looks weird to me
Fair enough, but me personally i kinda like the shiny silver on some of the capes, gives a bit of flare to the classic capes, one of my friends put out an idea that tgc could use gold trimmings for the white cape upgrade
Hope the new capes are still in progress

and it work now