#beta-discussion
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I tried standing a bit further, it wouldn’t send multiple stars when you’re away. But ooooh jolly, I gave three souls at once at those 25-27 statue packs.
that would definitely help a lot to get through that part faster
I feel like it's gonna mess up my muscle memory so much though 
alright gonna go run beta eden wish me luck 🏃
Yes!
So right now there’s like two groups of players. “New experience” ones are those who only see TS in Aviary (at least this is how to differ it in current live). And “old experience” people would be me who can see TS both in home and Aviary.
New experience ones has new cutscenes in every Elder temples. It shows the aviary shot in the end. And they have a new elder cutscene in Eden: once you enter orbit, the elder comes, and then shiny kids wave at you at the end. While my beta main doesn’t have that, my beta alt does. And beta alt’s mask got recharged after viewing that scene.
Good luck Cy! Hopefully you get them all 
I better get them all, I was so salty I couldn't get the last statue last time 
ooo I'll try to remember to record this when I go!
HDR brightness also does a thing now
lower setting will like, actually darken light (most noticeable on WL)
at least, it's a more noticeable difference compared to before
I would go to Eden again with my alt and gonna send that here (if my storage can record)
if you can’t afford the storage, it’s no worries
okay new thing I'm noticing
if you try to give light next to a lantern statue, it does a weird prioritisation thing where you can't light the lantern before the statue. the button to light only appears after you give light away which is.....questionable
Did the beta stop working again? I can't see anyone inside online
did you update your game
manifesting new season about darkness
Yes
it's also off season rn so people won't really go on
you do not need to ping reply my messages btw
No but I can't open message's to it's like I'm playing sky without internet
so you can't even open chat??
I don't see anyone so I didn't check chat but everything is off somehow
I just sent a message ingame and it didn't appear hm
think servers are struggling maybe
Yeah maybe they're down or something
well it's not down cuz I'm still in the game and I'm not getting nonstop server errors, but something is up
Same sometimes I can't send hearts to people, anyway I'll check again later. Thank you
-.- couldn't get to the last statue again
kept falling over it was real bad
can see what charlotte meant about the wind thing cuz I got blown back
Hello, can someone explain to me why for every update of just a few megabytes I need to have 3,58GB of space in my phone? 😪
I really hate the fall get back up mechanic like
that's just annoying
okay that didn't happen to me hm
Omg wait they waved at me too!
I didn't see the elder but the skids did wave
Oh I should take moth sof to Eden
sof moth 
Which elder visits you in orbit? 
All of them 
do you have them all completed in beta?
My alt no, only Forest and Prairie
weeeeeird
You tell me
I swear it is a thing because it’s not the first time I see it, I just don’t notice it would charge elder masks. Nobody saw the elder new cutscene before? currently dying second time trying to get the footage
currently sending my footage into #beta-screenshots-videos it's loading
Wait wait wait okay so, in Eden ALL of the elders visit you in orbit when you enter it for the first time???
Okay I’m gonna take moth sof (my alt) to Eden 
The cutscene is just with them coming, and then the shiny kids wave at the end. And once the cutscene ends all of the Elders stood around that platform, we can see it from afar. (Sorry I’m bad at being descriptive
)
that sounds so fancy
Nope I can’t get it recorded, crashes in Android records 
what if you like...record your phone from a different device
using the camera
Omg why didn’t I think of that…. My child just landed in Aviary. I’ll record in the next eden run
3 Edens a day is something.
thank you for your sacrifice but also sorry 😂
I was curious if I could get it. 🤣 I did get the scene, I hope Sof’s mothy get the scene as well so we can see 
is it just me or is it server erroring to hell right now
So this is only for the new moff that enters eden for the first time??
It is. I’m guessing a lot of people coming to get the candle conversion
their skid completed prairie and forest constellations so I doubt that's the case (guessing based on context)
Ohh I see.
No I don’t think so, my alt had entered beta Eden a few times. But then again I always skip cutscenes to actually notice which build starts having that. Definitely hadn’t go since Days of Fortune testing
I always skip them too, the one I saw I think is just the regular one
I restarted my game
I think the errors started because I interacted with a shared memory now I have to collect the WL I totally grabbed but the game didn't count them darnit 
It just says “too many players” for me
Im almost at vault summit with my moth 
I forgot I had 8 WL too so I had to collect WL first on that account lol 
Sof I wonder if you get the new Elder temple cutscene in your moth account?
And good luck on the upcoming death 
can I just say
watching back my recordings for eden made me realise how fast I was that I couldn't use it to show how the icons were weird 😂 cuz it wouldn't be legible for anyone to see it
I forgot to relive a spirit in vault and now steward keeps sitting at vault gate 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 should I just go Eden? Or relive a spirit?
Yes! #beta-screenshots-videos message and also this!
If you need to relieve a spirit then you’d need to be in Vault Summit again, no?
or is it a seasonal spirit? I don’t think it matters much if its seasonal ones…?
you can't see seasonal until you complete eden once
I don't think the sof moth has done eden yet(?)
Ok!!! I restarted and Steward was sitting in front of the Eden gate so yay! I’m in Eden now
Oh right… I hadn’t notice that the lanterns won’t allow you to light up first if that’s what you mean
I did tap any button I could find. Does the multiple sacrifice confuse your muscle memory 
no that was really fun actually
I was like oh hell it's extra stonks
but it was annoying when I wanted to light the lantern and the game is like
NO LIGHT, ONLY RESCUE
and I'm like bruh
ah the other thing that annoyed me was the overjump ever since they tweaked the jump mechanics
you want to just try and do a small jump and the skid just oversends it and you end up in rock rain -.-
Just a skykid decided to set a world record for jumping in Eden 
Ohhh yeah now that Cy mention it I definitely did have a bit of what I think a dive animation when jumping on some water parts there. It made me avoid jumping altogether until the last 5 statues.
Yes I’m almost chibi on my main
is your skid short? that didn't happen to me
yeah that's just a thing that happens to smols
the gremlin energy includes wanting to jump into puddles
worth feedbacking though, that would be really annoying
justice for gremlins
your gremlin commits crimes, bubba
Also yeah that lantern not lighting part would also annoy me if it comes to live, as I would try my best to get everything in one go (i don’t really care about beta currency). Since they did mention the next season would be in Aviary, I do feel like Eden might play a part in this again. Just praying I could see that Wasteland Shield Mask coming
JUSTICE FOR GREMLINS
jail for bubba gremlin
JAIL
I always try to light the lanterns before giving wings to statues so if I get smacked by a rock in between I'll recharge
the GW mask better actually do something good because forest just gets destroyed so fast in PNR it's like why did I bring this lol
the damage has increased
No elders 
I just sometimes fly… and missed the rock hits… but I definitely will try again next time.
they're in the retirement home
THERE’S NO WAY

charlotte
you are the chosen one 

Nooo but someone knew what I was talking about so that must have been seen by not only me
have to get other people to do eden and see what happens then
I didn’t see the elders unfortunately, but I did have the shiny kids although I can’t remember if they waved at me but I recorded!
did the rock rain part suck for you too btw
I can do eden later, it doesn't matter if you have any elders unlocked or not?
There was a hint in this blog (confirmed by a TGC staff in Indo server) #news message
I had 20 wings Cy I died too soon to experience rock rain
it's okay they grow up hardcore eventually 
daily not appearing for me thou
did you spam the ! button until they appeared
it's been progressively getting worse for dailies to activate lately, I guess it's something with the spirit cafe stuff but could be server related if there were errors earlier, though I noticed issues yesterday
i tried spamming but nothing there thou but my friend said that daily can get completed without getting the quests
did you get it from home or aviary
yeah they can get completed even if they don't appear, which is weird
they are exactly the same dailies as live btw
I swear if it doesn’t let me float or grow a pair of roller skates at the price of probably 1k ascended, I will slap some candles to some elderly in the temple
shield surfs through eden with wasteland elder mask
stands on bubba's back as I surf with her face to the ground
Wasteland Elder Shield better be coming with a honk more radiant than the 9cd’s honk 
I want to be: “The Child knows just what to do” appears on screen every time I use it.
bubba you know those 2 wheel electric scooters where the wheels are either side of the standing platform
that's your skid I hold onto your feet and face to the ground and just surf
Wasteland elder mask better be an actual mask
Hi, I have a problem I can't log in or even open the game. I have had this problem since before the last update, and even now after the last update, the problem has not been solved. What is the solution please?
bug report it
Iam in the same situation
My chat still not working and can't see anyone, no strangers or friends, i feel like I'm in the walking dead series 😂
#beta-discussion definitely needs some SNEEP SNORP 
#beta-screenshots-videos message iirc they moved the first wing (after the isle mural tunnel) a while back to the end of the temple so all new accounts should see that
although I'm wondering will that wing be after the temple when people die and wings go back to the world? 
Nope
it moves back to the boat!
Oh thank god! That would have been a pain to get after each eden death if it didn't

Hello
external recording seems to stop my HDR settings from doing anything, but internal recording doesn't actually record the changes
how show tgc the different levels of bloom 😭
also revisiting the season and regular candles and relighting them is letting me collect the wax again and again 😭
So what should we do?🥺
#beta-bugs-android is a good start! Let TGC know that you can’t access the game 
First time going to Eden after the improvements
It was.. an experience..
Well for the first time it could be a bad experience

It went quite well with the boulders finally protecting the avatar and the opportunity to save several statues in one go
That being said, the first time a rock hit me I was sent out of the map

You should write a bug report, too! Feedback is more for how the gameplay makes you feel 
There are a few things you can try, but please make sure your account was linked before 
- Step-by-step guide on clearing cache for android: #beta-faq message
- Another method: #beta-faq message
I hope this helps! Make sure to send in a bug report as well (#bug-reports-android) 
New hobby unlocked: running between the deer legs back and forth as it walks
so....being kicked around like a football
noooo if I'm fast enough it can't hurt me I just have to keep going! 
also bubba did you see my glorious description
are you telling me you're using fossil gremlin as a Segway? 
Good evening everyone
Hey guys, Will the invisible Cape be coming to the live version?
No.
Same thing 😭😔😭😭😭
I can log in but dailies are not appearing and wax don't count so still useless
When is the Office (beta area) going to be visitable this year?
wdym beta area
do you mean the hole in the wall that goes to the mysterious island line thingo or just office
Oh man i love wafos
Android update is available for my friend but not for my device 🫣
Anyone else unable to get the daily quests? I can see the blinking red dot like quests are available, but when I click on it nothing happens. It's the same at the quest giving spirits and both shrines (Aviary and home).
Red dot is there but not able to get dailies, Also None of friends is showing online
oh i see beta is beta-ing today
Lmao, Beta being Beta as usual
Beta is being the most beta it has ever betaed for me klfdgjldfk
Is anyone else has problems with sending light and other things to friends in beta? Or seeing them online at all? Whatever i do in constellation it gets reversed and i cant even see my friends online im just wondering tzat is it just me or others have the same problem too
Yes, same, also update is out for my friend in android but not for my device
Alright so im not the only one xd i will leave a bug report on it later sky feels so lonely now that i cant see anyone online T^T
Yup
Yes, the one in Vault
It's visitable during active events, or anytime with the office cape.
If you don't have the cape, I would be happy to take you to the office so you can get it 😊
Omg tysm!! 
Just got update in play store, what exactly changed?
You can dm if you want to exchange codes and set a time to meet up!
No update?
i wonder what the next season will be
I hope we get a forest season
true
What build number are we currently on? I have 246861?
Oh yes that would be lovely!
Non. Just guesses if you see any. Usually though can be anywhere between 50-25 days remaining in the season for live when we get a doot for beta. Just looking at past first season doots.
Guys i still can't use chat or see any friends or strangers, what should i do? 😱
Should really WAFO: Wait and find out (if server will return in beta) 
Also just bug report it
Okay, Did it happen to you too or just me?
yeah it’s happening to a lot of people
I didn’t have the issues right after reset so it’s just servers being weird
Guys don't you think would be great if TGC adds an special bundle called like "Eternal memores pack" and it contains the antique regular spirits red and blue capes from "light awaits" version, all this for sky anniversay, I will definitely buy it just for the nostalgy (and because I adored that patterns) 
mmmmm
I remember asking reika about it and she said like "yeah that's tier 10 cape" XD
so highly doubt it
Games become very lonely
Hi.. I can ask you something.. even though my beta is close, I still have a problem, I can't get candles, I can't see people, this bug or the server crash, is there anything that can be fixed..?
Hello. You asked a beta related question in #questions-and-help. I would suggest you to remove the message there.
For a friendly reminder, all beta questions should really stay within beta channels. 
Also to answer you, this is likely a bug or a server issue in beta. Please kindly report it as a bug and or wait for the devs to work on it. 

Oh my god this is the last emote i expected to see have a version of a moff drawn over 

Maybe tomorrow, maybe many months from now 
no one will ever know when the next invite will come, so not much worth asking
If you scroll up in #beta-signup-info you can see it
So.. no new season information yet?
Hello, I would like to ask why I burned the candle but could not draw the candle flame. I received the task but could not receive it. I have made sure that the network is full, but the server error keeps popping up.
beta being beta
in the blogpost (and confirmed somewhere by the devs) it's been said to be an aviary based season
im gonna be so mad if they don't reuse the troupe greeter stall 
Troupe greeter stall? I can’t remember this 
#beta-screenshots-videos message
this thing
It’s a bug
Ok thanks
I’m gonna be even more upset if the gigantic swing, boat, or that fairy tale music are not ever going to be reused

that's p normal for gamedev for stuff to get cut out for final product
Mmhm. Personal opinion, they’re still a lovely touch.
Plus if I recall correctly they had all these little cozy seatings scattering all over the outdoor-indoor areas back then. 
I loved the gigantic swing so much
I really hope they bring it back
Didn't we just have an aviary based season?
Why doesn't TGC fix this bug? It makes me feel like I'm the last person on Earth
I can't see anyone 
beta isn't in that high of a priority right now since there's not much to test/feedback on so it will just take longer to get to
Well, I honestly prefer the beta's desaturation now, I see that after I played the beta this way, the global bothered me a bit, so much so that I now find the global's saturation a bit uncomfortable (Daylight prairie, hidden forest and Valley).
But.... my opinion.
Good evening everyone
hello everyone ! how are you all doing? 
I'm really excited for live to see the final quests of the season, I wanna show my friend what happens already but I don't wanna spoil it for her 
Definitely cosmetics.
and lots and lots of bugs
Good day, I kindly write to you all to give my opinion and recommendation regarding the nine-color deer cape: We already have 2 seasons of collaboration with which to access the area you must have the collaboration cape or have a friend with the cape take you , I expected that in this season of collaboration the cape would be the same but when leaving the area to the public I don't see the "Exclusive" thing about it.
There is no interaction with the deer🦌you only see it move from one side to the other, I hope you take my suggestion and give the option that players who see the deer can ride it as in the mission.
||(This is not a spam, we agreed to send this message at the same time<3)||
This sounds Iike feedback, be sure to jot this down in #beta-feedback if you haven't already! This is the discussion channel so you're more likely to have your feedback seen in the directed channels
Have you all sent this to feedback? It would definitely reach TGC better there. Also sending the same message over and over is still considered spam.
Cape almost costed like Aurora Wings
average beta chat
Whereever you guys are getting brigaded to here from, you all need to go post in the correct channel and maybe write your feedback in your own words
Good day,
I kindly write to you to give my opinion and recommendation regarding the copy and pastes about the deer cape.... SEND THEM ZE FEED OF BACK 
I want to see the changes TGC will make to the aviary next season 👀
Maybe that explains why the cape costs 5 dollars less
Edit: Honestly an exclusive area for me should never exist, all players should access the area freely, having an exclusive place only if it's an in-game house for you.
@marble girder @barren heart @lucid crane @true sphinx @ivory tendon Hi there, sending the same message multiple times in chat is considered spam, which is also why I will clean up chatter in a few minutes.
If you have thoughts or feedback about the beta and if you would like TGC to see these thoughts, please send them in #beta-feedback as it is the only channel where staff members will pay attention to.
You’re more than welcome to discuss certain things about the beta game, but kindly refrain from spamming. Thank you!
Oki, Did
beta isn't working
On another note, organising a campaign for feedback is not something we can allow in this server.
The devs rely on our feedback for testing, but remember that the essence of giving beta feedback is that it should be personal; its about giving feedback on how the game or gameplay makes you feel.
Trying to organise a (mass-) campaign about specific things in beta can drown out other aspects that need attention.
How can I download the beta version of sky ?
All the instructions you need for joining Beta are in #beta-faq ! Be sure to give it a careful read - it's an important skill to practice for testing 
In summary, you need to grab the "beta invites" role from that channel and wait to be notified when slots open for new testers to sign up. (We do not know when this will happen; it's up to the whims of TGC.)
Have anyone noticed this issue of the settings icon having the red dot notification but there's nothing when you click it?
Yup same with me
Aaauhhh I've been trying to figure a way to stop it but it won't let me 😭 also ppl are saying something about upcoming traveling spirits but I haven't seen any
Probably a bug
Yah
Maybe im wrong but if i remember theres a wl in that area and I think it will be unfair for the rest of players to not be able to get that wl unless they paid for the cape maybe TGC will add an special interaction with the deer only to those who wear the collab cape
Oh no, the cog notification dot made it to Live. That's really gonna mess with my OCD.
I have this notification in the friends section because of facebook and it's been there for years
and then they ask why I want an unlink option so badly
Pls TGC fix this.
I understand your point. My friends and I thought the same, that's why we made a single message.
So we should have written the message with our personal words, even if we all thought the same? 
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Looks like they forgot to add passive rigid body on that hehe
Yeah! Tgc wants to hear from each player personally, even if you have similar thoughts! 
Oof… all the annoying beta bugs are live now :( including the red gear dot and the missing base game horn instrument

At least they finally acknowledged the abyss cape bug 🙄
oh abyss cape finally got fix? great 
No, just saw it mentioned in known issues
I have two dots
The settings and facebook friend request(i deleted my facebook years ago and still a dot appears to add the person to the game)
Now we have a new Eden in live, but I just completed Eden. I'll have to wait for Sunday 
i meant when xd
i wanna ride it yes
Honestly, the aurora concert should've been the one to be open to everyone without the cape, since people need to go there to complete her quests
it should be riding only for ppl w deer cape bought
My idea for the deer cape is:
Maybe they could implement something like the oreo area at daylight prairie, one person with the cape would be required for people to be able to summon the deer.
Once the deer is there, people would be able to take turns to ride on it's back just like with Oreo. Also, the deer could take us on a little walk around the seasonal area or even a whole new place, all while we ride on it's back. They could also implement a little afk farming area whike the deer is there.
(Yes, I already sent it to feedback)
That'd ruin the point of the Wings of AURORA significantly.
Yeah, it would definitely decrease it's value significantly, but it makes more sense, rather than the nine colored deer area.
Does anyone have any screenshots of the prices for the traveling spirit groups? I thought I made some but apparently didn’t have enough ascended candles to unlock the upper part of all of them- 
Just as I thought. Cafe is probably getting on live for next season (hopefully not, i want it now
). Enjoy it in the meantime beta!!!

If it does, then I'll make a Blend S op meme for sure. 
Mentioned the abyss cape but no rose ult 😭 when will my struggle end....
What's causing the notification bug?
Whats the beta proxy scrape server.?
I can only assume details, but do also remember that when it comes to collab items, the copyright holder does have a say in how it can work as well. So it's may not be entirely up to TGC
Omgg they got rid of the crawling when u get hit by rocks in eden
Only until you're down to 10 winged light, but yes.
Also, #beta-screenshots-videos message DOES THIS MEAN GRANDMA'S RESTAURANT? I hope so bad it's being considered.
Almost definitely next season
Can't wait to have to do Shattering to unlock the restaurant and have ♦️ as the chef
Fellas I saw someone in #beta-screenshots-videos mention that portrait mode is available on iOS devices
is this something that’s gonna come on this update or the next one 
Why did i ever think the lily pad umbrella was going to be a free item

That's a thing that's always been in beta, ios portrait mode
The ovens being powered by angry red shards.
I always wanted to taste rock candy.
Mmmm cherry flavoured
The leaf umbrealla is under the cape
I started seeing people again, I'm not alone anymore 😭
ALL UNFIXED BETA BUGS ARE KNOWN-ISSUES FOR SKY LIVE 🤧
Yet the part of my favorite item doesn't fixed
My camera pls fix it 
I wonder if the deer changes its colour when the seasons over
Im looking for a friend in beta 😭😭😭
On an unrelated note, I'd really like if we could return to 6 spirits in a season because we haven't had one since the Little Prince.
ask in #beta-looking-for-group !
Thank youu
The White-out Is been is the game for a year or more and only now have they talked about the bug
OMG!!!

I don't doubt at all that in five versions of the game TGC will be talking about the Known-issues players are having with the game being less saturated
Btw where is that? Other people have taken photos there but I never figured out how to get there 😫
In one area of the aviary, you need clipping (Chibi fall) to access
Is there in-game recorder for pc in beta?
What happened to the 📯 of Lookout Scout
? Did they add something else, I can't see?
that's been null for the past couple builds for a long while
it's just 🚫 and also vanished from people's inventory
Hello
, my name is Geisy. How are you?
Sago did address about it
There’s no way the Android friend code null is also carried to live… 
Good morning everybody
Latest update for recording app changed to internal recording mechanism has rendered my ability to do Screen recordings of all Sky/Beta interactions of the Graphic User Interface, the User interface, the system user interface, the touch locations, the pointer locations trackers, the X,Y information, the interactive data, the Hit-boxes interactive data, and other diagnostic information that Google play Games screen recorder can access, is not accessible in the internal Sky/ Beta Recording Mechanism.
These changes has rendered my ability to do detailed Debugging reports with Android Debugging Tools w/ Dev. Tools enabled useless. Now I can't do proper bug reports with Precise Detail to be sent to TGC.
In which area specifically? I have clipped through the floor in aviary to look for it but no luck yet. Is it in a different section of aviary like the spell shop?
Wait is there a timing for the deer flying around? When I visit it's only walking around so I thought the flying stuff had been removed 
it's below the roof of the spell shop! in the direction of the clouds :)
I have fallen too far out the map trying to get too it though so expect to take a few tries to land on the tables there jdgdh 
Has beta returned to normal?
By normal as in bugs galore? Always 
i no longer know what's considered normal in beta.
Lmaoooo, gotcha, I'll be careful, thanks!! ❤️
hellooo! my beta friend wants to know how to acquire the days of bloom items but has no idea where
check back in 2025
event testing for beta always happens way before it gets to the live version
I can do dailies but shard doesn’t start after burning darkness
We need DAYS of BUGS😭 all at the same time...
Why we get that everyday
FOR WOT
As a non-beta player am I allowed to ask something about the beta in this chat? Or is that not appropriate?
Hello, I've been absent for a whole month. 😭 What's new to sky beta?
@ shoot: read #beta-announcements
@sweet canyon you can ask but you can also read #beta-faq first if your question is more general beta oriented
I wanna give people hearts in peace, I keep getting error messages. Please fix it tgc 😭🙏
To install the beta version do you have to wait for a notice on this channel? #beta-signup-info
I was wondering if they added the IAP collaboration cape special feature and if so, what does it do?
Is it the radiance one? Then it releases the feature on it where (spoiler)|| it is gonna teleported you to a place and shows you the deer||; you can see the picture spoilers in #beta-screenshots-videos if you want to see it.
Same problem live and beta i can't login 😭😭
Ohhh so it's a stunlocked where I described what happens on my last play on eden on beta
And thought it's a feature
Did you do the usual force stop and clean cache?
Hello hard working beta testers ☺️ I would like to ask ( if it’s not against the rules) is the saturation change in live intentional and already tested here or it’s a bug? To be honest I’m not very into it 🥹
yes we have it too, yes it looks different, if you have thoughts about it you should put it in #live-feedback
the mysterious and all-powerful Skybot sees all! ...also, i'm stuck in the mods' basement again, can you let me out? 
If we could we would, but we are stuck too
Bug 🐛
just updated, and i still can't play mural 2 of the newest season, or enter the aviary without the game crashing 😭
Geez, Sky is a mess with these bugs
How many of the live bugs were in beta?
I think everyone, after all the current beta update is the live version
Everything?
Yes
Oof
I think the shard lights could still be collected in beta, it was the shard memory that would crash the game but a lot of other bugs carried over.
shard activity was bugged at one point in beta and it got fixed later but it seems the bug has crept into live somehow 
the shard had the exact same problem in beta
can’t sit down for meditation to start phase 2
I think I missed seeing that bug, sorry about that
I experienced it with a very patient chibi, we sat up and down for a couple of minutes before it worked again, I wonder how they're doing now 
Okay I seriously thought I was the only one noticing this. I know people reported most of these bugs while they were in beta, and they weren't fixed before live?! 
I understand TGC has a lot to do, but this is a pretty serious quality issue. If bugs aren't fixed from beta reports, what is the beta testing even for? Some of these things are legitimately game-breaking for people
Not the 1st time it happens, too. I'm also feeling very frustrated, I remember reporting some of the bugs that got in at launch of Deer season for example
And it was common issues, not some super rare ones
I too feel the same. I haven't even downloaded the new update just because of these bugs 😭
(Sorry for pinging, I noticed it after sending the message
)
And of course the new round of live known issues are all things people have been talking about for weeks here, if not months.
Maybe this sounds mean, but it definitely feels like TGC has been aiming for quantity over quality recently. If they aren't even going to read the beta bug reports what even is our job here? Just to generate hype for new content? Idk, but this severe drop in quality with 0 communication is frustrating for beta and live users. :/
It's something I don't understand either
This desaturation bug doesn't seem to be difficult to fix.
in addition to the countless other bugs that have appeared in this beta
I still believe that Sky's programming is deliberately messy, but since it is messy, this makes it very difficult to fix bugs (Spaghetti code).
Edit: it's something I believe, I've learned a bit about programming.
Also: SOrry for ping 
People in here were convinced the desaturation was intentional (since it's been requested for literal years in this server) and most were very happy with it. The fact that it's a bug is just even more frustrating, since the reasons people were happy with it were for accessibility.
Unfortunately Sky's quality of life is very poor
Until 2021 the game didn't even have an option to control the volume of the game (SFX And music) and when they added it, it didn't work properly
As well as a separate option to control the game's graphics options, as I see in most or all of today's games.
So.... I have the same question as you: why beta?
Only if it's to test new cosmetics or seasons in advance, because I think that reporting bug fixes is non-existent and they only fix them when they want to.
I have to say, I'm looking forward to seeing how many game-breaking bugs are released at the end of the current live season, since quests 4&5 were so broken. Counting the number of bugs carrying over from beta will be a fun game lol
I don't even want to imagine when the new season arrives in beta.... 
Don't rebuke me. But I feel, most bugs are fixed after they arrive Sky Live, getting bug-reports or feedbacks.
Fix bugs and add twice as many bugs
Beta content has always been a source of hype for live-only players because unlike most betas, this one is really easy to view and access. My personal theory is that beta is only kept around to make sure 1) items are wearable/usable/not breaking anything else, 2) that Seasons don't break, because that loses them money, and 3) to keep the live players interested with the promise of new content that they can easily confirm. I don't think anyone in the dev team actually reads bug reports anymore.
I also don't exactly have the best opinion of/relationship with some of the TGC staff members, so my view on this might be tainted.
imo most bugs are made aware to tgc, but they are always in a rush to release updates to live, even if they haven't figured out how to fix a bug
im sure a programmer would (if they could) press a button to fix all bugs instantly, but its not that simple
Most are, yes. But the reason for beta is so that there are fewer bugs that make it to the "real" game. Most of the bugs seen in #known-issues (in the past few weeks) are things that are well-known and have been reported in beta since they appeared. They should not be in the live game causing issues, and that shouldn't be something debatable.
Bugs are more complicated to fix than just a flip of a switch. And sometimes when going in to fix one bug, more pop up after. Not only that, a fix for one bug may work for one platform, but the other platforms would become even buggier. Just in general, bug fixing is quite difficult task. 
That's why I'm against them bringing forward game content
if something isn't working, postpone the content
if the content is missing, don't release it yet
As was the case with Season of Shattering, where there was a lack of content and players asked for more time, but.... weren't listened to.
No one is saying it isn't hard work or complicated. I'm saying these updates shouldn't have been released with multiple game-breaking bugs one after the other. That's a quality-control issue, and will cost TGC users if it continues, because no one likes playing broken games. I think I speak for a lot of the playerbase when I say I would rather a late, working update than an on-time broken one.
And fixing bugs becomes much less time-consuming when you literally have players explaining step-by-step in detail what causes these things. If this was a tiny indie game, it would be much more understandable. But it isn't.
When I started beta ~3 years ago, there were almost no escapee bugs that made it to live. TGC read the bug reports, released fixes in the beta and regularly communicated with their beta users about bugs and bug fixes. This is a recent problem that can't just be excused away with, "Bug fixing is hard!"
If the Seasons took 5 months to be released, I believe we would have fewer bugs and more quality to the game, after all it's 3 or 4 seasons a year, many events and several other factors
So I think this is getting in the way of developing quality of life and improving the game.
but that's my opinion
yeah that's the thing with rushing out content, but in the business side of things delaying is a bad practice and a product is released when its deemed "good enough"
That's not a good way to run a game, and its certainly not a good way to maintain trust with your playerbase. It wasn't like this before TGC went the "new seasons all the time!" route to maximize income.
A quality product is a product that takes time to launch
If you want something of quality, you have to wait; rushing something can diminish the quality of that product or game. 
Three years ago y'all used to wait months between updates with less content for beta never mind live, so it doesn't surprise me bugs were kept on top of back then. Nowadays there's more content and less time between updates.
Which is exactly the problem. I don't understand your point.
it has become a balancing act between more content or fixing bugs
If players didn't get consistent content they'd lose interest, if players do get consistent content there's more chance of bugs due to time constraints and such, it's tough
hi someone with some insight on how game dev actually works i promise you game bugs are not easy to find as you think they are. games will never be fully bug free, esp not with the team that TGC has witch is small for a game with a playerbase this large. they are a smaller indie studio. i dont think they Can sacrifice events bc thats what bring players back to the game 99% of the time. the social aspect cannot hold the game itself, it Has to be the mechanics they offer which is the seasons at the end of the day. also, due to the fact that recent sky's popularity has Boomed and some huge game changing things have happened.... i feel like their team is very small for the game they run, which is a harder thing to tackle bc the game industry rn is in shambles. try to be understanding, game dev is hard and games will never fully be without glitches!! sorry for the long paragraph but i just wanted to put my thoughts in as someone who is studying game dev :)
I'm just afraid that the game will break to the point of being unplayable
And it seems "more content" is winning, because that's what makes money. There is a way to release consistent updates with fewer bugs and still maintain your playerbase. I don't think I have to point to any examples, considering the gaming industry is full of them. TGC hasn't found that balance, and it's causing the game to go downhill.
I'm not sure where people got the idea that I'm saying there should NEVER be bugs in Live, because I'm not. I'm saying this quantity of gamebreaking and obvious bugs that were reported in Beta from DAY ONE should have never made it to the live game. Every game has bugs.
The "indie company" phase is over
TGC is already big and no longer independent
I think the thing is with live hosted games, there'll always be a rush of content to keep players active - it's different with a fully finished/packaged offline game where they can work on the thing extensively and even then games like that still have bugs stares at Pokémon and Skyrim specifically
that game company is still considered a indie studio atm!!! thats what independent means. :) if they were AA or AAA they would have multiple different companies that fund them
Honestly though they still have less manpower than most "big companies" that people claim tgc to be, much more than when they began sky, but still quite a lot less than other popular mobile games
they are still independent? unless there is some other news i missed
Aside from that investment for the second project they were working on, I'm sure they're still independent yeah 
Bugs can also put players off a game
(Especially bugs that hinder your experience)
I have no doubt that many Sky players have stopped playing because of the bugs
It may be minimal, but it may have happened.
I know, that's up to the individuals though, nobody is forced to keep playing if they're having a bad experience
that is also why they push for more paid content is Important for sky. bc they are an indie studio, they need the money to hire more artists, to upkeep the game, etc. i just think atm the TGC is very small for the large game their running, esp with the recent boom in popularity. i hope they can find more staff soon :) bc truly its just the amount of stuff their workin on. i worry moreso for crunch on the staff than the quality of the game.
truthfully, i rather a glitchy game then TGC to be an unhealthy and crunch-work enviroment to work at.
Technically Sky is more expensive than about 10 AAA games if you add up all the cosmetics in the game 
But leaving the joke aside: I still think that TGC is now past that stage and is just a games company that has had several collabs and a billion-dollar turnover
imo tgc is largely made of artists rather than engineers (although its increased since sky live service nature) you can tell from their previous games and the lack of game configurations
I genuinely don't understand how generating updates with more than a 2-month delay would cause an unhealthy work environment. In fact, my understanding is that the current update schedule is more likely to cause stress. This is a genuine comment, I really don't get it. If there was more time between updates, there would be less crunch-y stress to get the next update in the game, and more time to fix bugs so the game is actually playable for the Live players.
Lack of in-game settings is something that players really miss
An energy bar to depend on the graphics quality is super limited and in most cases makes no difference (especially on Android devices that have a low resolution).
Also on the topic of why do beta testers exist, well one it's a voluntary programme for players who want to help make the game fun for our fellow players, to help give feedback on something we're passionate about, and to help hunt for bugs - as frustrating as it can be seeing beta bugs make it into live, it's unfortunately part of the reality of gamedev and yes these last few updates to live in particular we've seen a fair few bugs escape into live, but that doesn't mean that tgc haven't been paying attention to our bug reports and feedback
But if you do feel like it's not worth it, then you don't have to keep doing it, it's okay to take a break if it's becoming too frustrating to go through the process and see bugs still escaping. I guarantee it's just as frustrating for tgc having to ship bugs and seeing how upset live players get when the game isn't functioning as it should.
Delays throw off schedules. Switch, for example, has a very specific update schedule, and thus throwing it off would be a detriment to switch players getting proper fixes and new content. It's why most hotfixes are for the other platforms.
i agree!! but i think the core issue with delaying content is the fact that the content with events and such is the main mechanic of the game, which brings people to the game over and over again. its their core mech of the game, and they cant push it back or the game will die within months. pushing it back leaves their company in a tight place, which could lead to company layoffs and such. plus, the game could become extremely inactive. its just too much of a risk to take away the main content cycle of the game.
Yeah each platform has their own policies for updates, android need updates in advance too I think, although they can have more hotfixes unlike switch 
The eden update development cycle was extremely frustrating and a highlight to how feedback and content shipment isn't given enough time.
There's a facebook bug that's been in my account for 2 years
A bug where a person who has added you on facebook and whose account is linked to Sky appears in your game whenever you log in, even if you remove or add them, the warning doesn't disappear forever, only temporarily, and I've had this for years, it's frustrating to see that TGC still hasn't fixed this bug even though they are aware of it, there are several solutions to solve it but so far nothing, and honestly it made me want to delete my account just to remove this (and remove people from the block list who have done me bad in the past).
collabs dont rlly equate to if a game company is AA/AAA!!! triple or double A games are only considered that when they are consistently being supported by a larger investor, and TGC isnt. TGC main income(as far as i can tell from some research) is from sky!
We're all aware of "the purpose of Beta" the discussion was more rhetorical. If Beta users are not being valued, used, or listened to, then why not just shut it down? It takes more time, energy, and money to run it than if it was gone, which it practically is.
I've taken my fair share of breaks from beta for almost this exact reason. There are serious issues in the way TGC runs this game and it's communications with its beta testers, but there are always people running to defend these obvious lapses in game quality and staff judgement. It gets exhausting seeing other beta players try their best to get the game in good condition for our Live counterparts only to be ignored by the devs. I understand the "just leave" argument, but if everyone with an issue left beta testing, there wouldn't be a lot of testers left.
And honestly, that's not the point. The point is, you shouldn't run a beta if you aren't going to use your testers feedback and reports. It ends up feeling disingenuous in the long run.
Your assumption is beta testers aren't valued or used, but we are? They literally wouldn't bother running a public beta programme if it wasn't beneficial to them.
And trust me if lots of people left beta, more would fill their spaces, people are always wanting to get into testing 
It's beneficial because it generates hype and maintains the live playerbase. Not because they use information beta players provide them. And again, missing my point. So I guess I'm not getting anywhere here.
But they are using feedback and reports, saying they're not when so much has changed in the game because of player feedback and beta testers is disingenuous itself
I personally have seen my own feedback making it into the game before. They definitely listen, it's just running a large scale game is rather difficult too.
i think they are using their testers feedbacks!! stuff just happens slowly!! game dev is hard, dude. you gotta be paitent with it :) give game devs some slack and try looking at the situation with more of a broader sense. ive seen my own feedback make it into game, its just. glitches and bugs are hard to fix.
Then please explain the 20+ bugs in #known-issues that were reported numerous times in Beta by several different people and still managed to make it to the live game. Those reports were heard?
And I wasnt even really discussing feedback, but let's talk about the severe lack of accessibility settings that disabled people have been asking for for literal years and have gone unheard and unaddressed, despite TGC claiming they're progressive in that matter.
Doing your "big" chores like cleaning your room and leaving the little ones like laundry or dusting for later is still being lazy. TGC fixing certain things and not others is still a problem.
Hope everyone here has a nice evening/day, but it's too late at night for me to continue yapping about these things I've all said before.
i... dont think youre reading what we're saying. game dev will always have glitches. there will never be a game without em. sky is an always updating game, so yes, there will always be a large amount of bugs. and some bugs are way harder to deal with than others! i think you gotta just have some empathy for the game devs tbh
I feel like you've missed the point of gamedev not being as simple as clicking buttons and everything is perfect. Same with accessibility settings, as upset as I am that accessibility hasn't seemed to be a priority I've watched as settings are being implemented and tweaked over the last year or so to address issues people have been having - it's not as extensive as I wish it could be, but they've obviously been having issues with implementing certain features, i.e. lighting changes they've made recently are experiencing bugs 
And having to prioritise certain tasks and therefore other tasks taking a back seat is not lazy in any sense.
i wonder if the reason why there have been so many bugs recently is because tgc is developing for five-ish (depends on whether you count playstation 4 and 5 as one or two) platforms at once, one of which isn't done yet and all of them have slightly different requirements
games developed for ONE platform are never bugless by virtue of game developers being human, imagine trying to make sure your game has no bugs and that all of them work on several different platforms and whatever android has going on
I am a live game player, and nowadays I don't even download the update as soon as it's released because I know it would be full of bugs. Not being able to teleport to a friend or not being able to do the 2nd phase of a shard event, these bugs really are irritating, not to mention the continuous server splits. And when I hear beta players saying they have reported these bugs way before, then it's a bit concerning that how at least these bugs weren't fixed before putting it in live.
Yeah game dev is hard. But if they are concerned about their consumers, then they should fix these important bugs otherwise we, live players, won't be able to enjoy the game as it is meant to be. They can prioritise to fix some bugs atleast, before sending it to live.
They are fixing the bugs though, that's what they're working on currently. I'd hate to be a dev waking up on a Friday hoping for a nice day and walking into the chaos that live doot brought 
Yeah, most of the bugs are fixed when they become known-issues.
here frost queen!! i kinda roughly explained why we're seeing these glitches in live and why they cant rlly procrastinate updates!! :D its somewhat of a endless cycle, haha
This, exactly. I've always thought their team isn't large or specialized enough. Throwing PC in the mix is a logistical nightmare and it's showing itself. I think they've had to bring on some new hires just for PC(?)
That's only really in beta, in live it's more so they know about the thing and they're investigating it. In beta they go into known issues when they know about it, don't need more bug reports, and have a fix in the pipeline.
Gamedev looks like so much fun until it's chaos 😭
Can confirm it’s a mess 😭
We work in the “this is fine” gif
ITS SO MUCH CHAOS.... imagine working in like 4 different programs and they ALL hate each other.... i love it but its like taming a wild horse LOL
Yes, even I feel the game is in a tightspot. Because without new content, players are gonna get bored for sure.
But at the same time, we also get frustrated with these bugs :((
I hope the company finds a way to handle both of these problems soon.
I feel that if TGC were a bit more transparent/communicative about some of these bugs and why they may make it into live despite the feedback, and the amount of progress there is on fixing them (cause identified, etc.), there would be fewer beta players feeling ignored/frustrated. I know it's not their job to give you guys constant updates on everything, but I can definitely understand why a lot of testers feel like they aren't being heard.
They are usually fixed within a few months..... or years
i'm personally less bothered by the bugs now that we're finally getting compensation via inbox gifts
like it does suck when sky's unplayable but now at least tgc's making sure we don't miss out on currency....... i used to set aside money in case android bugged out for too long and a season became uncompleteable
this is a rlly good point!!! i think they should be more transparent, i think it would stop a lot of the anger directed words them
i think this is what i would personally like to see more of, more communication 👍
Yes, there is a lack of transparency and more positioning from the TGC team, I know there is an internal beta test but they also need to communicate and be more direct with the beta testers.
It's honestly a mixed bag of emotions when it comes to beta bugs appearing in live, because it's also like we're used to things being broken so sometimes I just sit and go oh heck here we go again, but other times I do find myself upset at it.
But I know that whilst I'm frustrated, it's likely tgc are too, it's not their aim to send out builds that prevent players from playing and enjoying the game.
I wish at times we could have more communication, I wish at times I understood why things break and why they can't get fixed before live, but the reality of it is tgc don't owe us an explanation for the work they do behind the scenes and they likely don't always have the time or the freedom to share what's going on because they're busy working on the thing and also they can't just go around talking about all the inner workings of the game freely.
We do get dev notes at times, which is always a nice glimpse into the chaos, but honestly even just having them update known issues for us is pretty much the standard for any dev company.
Even I think that it could be the case where they see the bugs from beta reports, but still send it to live knowing that they are working on it (coz of the reason that keyth explained, they aren't able to delay updates). I think players need more new content coz the general gameplay of sky is a bit tiresome. It's different than other games which have different levels as u progress, and that's why too it becomes important for them to make new content every once in a while. But, hear me out, some bugs are really frustrating
But, at the same time, I am glad that they bring it to notice as soon as the update is released. Because of that, I can actually wait for the devs to fix this. 😄
More new content? Isn't that why we get so many bugs because they're pushing out new content often and have to meet schedules because of it 
they also need to utilize the in-game messaging system more; not every player has social media and itd be really helpful getting the known issues there too 
i feel like the biggest problem with sky right now are the servers; i hope with the upcoming year they can truly work on becoming a stable game
i feel this, especially the part with wanting to understand why things break. it's not like i'm actually mad at tgc, the bugs themselves just make me go insane haha 🫠
Exactly! That's why I think TGC is in a tight spot. Making new content -> more bugs, but making no new content -> lose players
:((
This would be very much appreciated! A lot of info goes on discord and twitter and such, and I noticed even today a lot of new folks joining the server to ask about the issues in game so it would be great for there to be more communication in game. Although I think they're still working on inbox stuff, they've only recently been using it for compensation
to be fair though, tgc could explain the bugs and I'd probably understand only a handful of words, but it would be interesting to know how the heckin things happen 
I vaguely remember windpaths bug being discussed and I just stared and nodded at my screen 
exactyl!!! i've found that it's more of the bugs themselves that literally make me go crazy. like i find myself asking how this door is still broken ✨
I would absolutely love once bugs get fixed, they release little tidbits on the bug fixing process for different silly bugs. That would be so interesting 
yeah they could be like "remember that one bug that broke everything guys?"
I think in most posts it would end up being "so yeah we added this thing, we wanted it to work like this, but then somewhere else in the code something just exploded and now here we are"
Sky is going down a bad path, the game becoming unstable with bugs only discourages me from playing, what's the point of having so much if you may be unable to play depending on the severity of the bug that may affect your experience, it's a double-edged sword, either choose a game with good quality but little content, or a broken game but with a lot of content.
Overall, I think it's a matter of TGC finding a way to bring new content without a lot of bugs creeping out. I don't have a lot of knowledge about game dev but I know about coding, and as a coder, it's frustrating to see errors pop up continuously, no matter how many changes you make to a program. So I also agree that bugs must have been a painful thing for devs to see. Hence I hope someday they find a way to launch update and content with lesser bugs in them.
(Also, I would like to understand why there are bugs happening to shard and friends mechanism rn. Like, why? Was it there in beta?
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It's unfortunately a more common problem than just Tgc too. Many games come out buggy and rushed so there is content to push out to players. Pokemon is a good example of this. 
I think a "Communications" department would be a fix for a lot of issues players are having right now. Just a group of people whose literal job is to tell players what's going on and what's being worked on, so the devs and other staff members don't have to worry about it as much.
If there was communication there wouldn't be so many people upset/confused.
They could even use Community Shepherds and other community members for this.
Yeah we had shard and friend null bugs in beta, the shards were working again at one point (aside from the crashing when going to the memory), so I'm not even sure how it's ended up in live as it is
Or... find a solution to bring them both:
Having a lot of content and a stable game, but this may have to be a hard decision, but one that pleases everyone.
i really hope servers are fixed above all else
playing even the live game it just feels like im playing a beta version.
the only time i've ever seen servers in a game this bad is usually when the game just comes out then it gets fixed, but it's Sky's 5th year and the game still cant keep itself together
I think that's what community staff roles are, typically we have sago and tethys this side of things, whirthun in live side of things
seeing a bug from beta creep itself into live makes me think of that spiderman meme of them pointing at each other
Sky's servers are something I don't understand
back in 2020 I didn't have so many server problems, but nowadays... there's server instability all the time, I've lost chances to make friends in the game thanks to the game's server not being a dedicated server.
game bigger, servers struggling, aaaaaa
Maybe because of sky trying to expand its availability to various devices like PC, PS, etc?
2020 also had way less content and events going on all the time. There were a lot less players so the servers weren't as stressed out from all the constant activity
I did also see people saying that other games using Amazon web servers were also having issues yesterday(? it's Saturday for me now, timezones go weee) so idk how much was on tgc for server issues and how much was AW
I don't think so
in 2021 there started to be a lot of server instability, before the switch was launched btw, so I just think that the question of a dedicated server.
Hmmmm I joined the game in later half of 2023 so I didn't know about it.
If Sky wasn't coded so strangely, I would say the server problem could be fixed easily. Alas, instituting a "choose a server" option like most large games have would probably involve the game being practically rebuilt from the ground up. They really didn't give Sky a good concrete base to sit on in that regards.
Edited to add what I mean: Most large games have the option to choose which server you join when you log on, and while you're playing you do not change from that server (unless it's forced because of volume issues, lag, etc. to keep said server intact). A couple of devs have said in past reports & direct player communications in this server that Sky's base code is just completely wack (paraphrased) so this likely is impossible (my personal takeaway).
Some games have been struggling due to a massive power outage over in America on Thursday but I don’t think that’s related at all 
Servers used to be particularly unstable whenever we'd get a TS, the first day of a new season and the first day of an event a few years ago, servers are better than they used to be during those times but also somehow other times it's been worse 😭
And when the game was much bigger... the server crashed all the time and there was always a connection error.
Bigger game, more resources needed and used up to run it. It becomes a harder thing to keep running all the time.
at this point we're detectives 💪
I think it's unfair to say there's always a connection error because more often than not you can play sky just fine, but it's those specific times when it's not working that it goes on for a day or so and it gets frustrating to the point it feels like it never works. But I wouldn't say there's always server errors
in my experience as someone who just plays live but watches beta content a TON, we still get a lot of issues when a new season starts ;m; it feels like we still get all the same issues as a few years ago but with added chaos
@indigo star, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
hey skybot when are we getting the new season in beta?
FAVOURITE CHILD :D
In less than one minute
homie comes in at the worst times sometimes
Yeah that Android bug was SO annoying as an Android user. I don't usually get impacted by server bugs like that, but I got kicked more in one day than I have in my ~4 years of playing. I didn't play again until it was fixed.
they just want to be helpful 
ngl android and switch users suffer way more than other platforms (iOS) and I do genuinely feel sorry for y'all when it happens
switch more so because there's not even a beta testing programme so bugs that end up on switch are just like oh okay 
they go through so much
Android unfortunately gets the short end of the stick since it's so hard to code for. Too many android devices that all run so differently
They’re features at that point 😭 I feel terrible for yall genuinely
Androids are also built so much better for gaming on top of having more users (in general, idk about how many iOS vs Android users Sky has) than iOS annually so I don't understand why we're always ignored :')
I think though going back to beta for a moment though, they have fixed some bugs for the season and such, but I'm wondering if those fixes made it to the live patch, I hope so!
But yes, switch players suffer more than us Android players! I have seen one of my friends, who was playing in switch, trying her best to do ||chibi glitch||, which us Android users could do easily. 
I think it goes back to when Luci said, androids are all very different, you've got your ice-cream sandwiches and your fruit roll ups and your oxygens and what have you does not remember any android OS
Because of the variety of android devices and systems there are. iOS is easier to code for since they all run the same. But one android device may work well for gaming, and another may as well, but they're made differently so it can cause the same game to do different things depending on which device it's on.
What event in beta rn?
Soon Days of nature
Good morning everybody
Im still can't login sky beta and live😔😭
Morning 🌞
When
!wafo
🧇 Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta or Live
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements, and Live announcements will be made in #news!
another day for the wafos
I'm stuck in Starrail these days and haven't look after my beta skykid for about half a month
Seems like we still have to eat some wafos
it’s maybe a weird question but , what did the developer used for the spirits sounds ? like you know when you light them up you can hear that little a quiet voice, especially when you stop following it and it calls you, idk if someone else noticed it but the sound really calms me 
GUYSSS
When is the next event?..
Idk Why do u ask?
I promise Nobody knows
Idk but normally there is no news about the next event for 3 or 4 days..
!wafo
🧇 Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta or Live
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements, and Live announcements will be made in #news!
It's beta drought period
don't expect anything until next week or the week after tbh
they still need to fix live bugs
Time to sneep 
Don't forget to snorp too
oh neat we still have season candles in realms, back to collecting I go, I hope they appear in inventory when the next season starts 
@ashen tusk, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
Now this, this are the kind of bugs I expect to see on live 
Sky's going to be release on pc soon so that's an opportunity to view the code properly
Also for the server bug, it was actually quite fun when it's ts and season arrival that did it and seeing the chaos in sky general channel but now it's just getting old
We have almost 1 month until the season ends on Live, so... they may fix it by then.... or not 
How do I sign to test the seasons before they start
#beta-faq
tgc does beta invite waves at random
Ok ty
hello I play on Android Samsung galaxy s8, since the last update the game crash at startup, I have already uninstalled and reinstalled, turned off and turn on my phone repeatedly but it does not work
is there any spoilers for the next season yet?
hi chat,quick question
I don't know how or why beta was uninstalled off of my phone so suddenly, either way is there a way to download it back?? Or do i have to way till next testing batch drops?? 
Uninstalled? Have you checked if you could get it back?
Since you had it on your account before I'm not sure if it'll pick that up
I tried but it said there's an error during the installation process
I don't even know how it was deleted I don't remember deleting it off my phone
Is it a Device issue then? Is it still compatible with your device? I don't think they would've taken you off the beta list,
Yes I've been using beta for almost.. a year now actually? I'm not so sure
I'll look into it,it could be a storage issue
Yeah so it's not letting me install it 😭
ah
check if you're logged into the correct email in testflight!! when I changed my device I got automatically signed into the wrong email that I wasn't in beta with, I had to manually change it again
I have a question I be waiting for a IOS sky beta for the TestFlight it’s been a long time and I just want to know the code
Read the #beta-faq ,you need to wait until the next invite wave wether you’re on android or iOS 
Howw's it goin? 
I’m on iOS and idk how long do I wait cus I want it so bad😭
As said in the faq, tgc opens the beta in a need biases so no one knows how many you will need to wait, you can get the beta invites ping in #beta-faq and wait, there’s nothing much you can do after that 
I do have the invite ping
Then as said in the faq wait 
Ok
A major test of patience 💀
ask #pc-questions
My Sky PC beta has been catchin' some dust lately 
Good day to all
hi
wait so there are 4 spirits returning 
Sup beta chat I got the new Elder Eden scenes recording on tapee with no crashes
I recorded it in Android sorry for the quality. And Androids can’t save things to gallery hence all the cuts (I had to record and send to myself
)
So this is what it looks like. Idk why the animation is wonky when I record it. It is smooth in my screen
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Context is my own message 
yeah it's in the patch notes in #news
will arrive next week monday in live
Assembly right? 
Charlotte I’m so confused!!!!! Can you give me a little bit more information (did you have all constellations completed, is this a new account,…)??? WOAH
That video confused me
GOOD CATCH Charlotte!!! I have many questions
Nooo it’s a second account for testing purpose. I only had Prairie and Forest completed for the alt, and it’s made during LP testing (I don’t use it actively before. I only start actively testing in alt during Passage). I mainly play beta in iOS and not with the same account since cross platforms 
I’m as surprised as you are when you said you had no elder cutscenes Sof 😭
I can’t complete all constellations because (hearts) and it’s beta
Oooooh okay so it’s speculated that you have all the elder cutscenes at once, and that it might just be a bug
but it’s super strange that you didn’t finish all elder constellations and still got the cutscene 
Interesting bug, I’m running Eden today too so I’m hoping I get the same???
Btw, can I send you a DM? 
Maybe a bug, I’m not even certain it’s a feature now that I don’t see anyone saw it in beta.
That’s also the weird thing about it, I don’t know how all elders play like that when I just entered orbit, specifically only in that account. My main doesn’t
Feel free to send a DM 
Hello beta chat 
Is beta open to any more testers?
Thanks, I hope there’s a new wave soon
hello when new beta season start
@slate heath, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
@dry ibex #beta-screenshots-videos message .... Looks like they were in a 5 car pile-up and need drastic reconstruction surgery 🤣
okay but when did deer season start- how much after the previous one?
@slate heath, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
we never really know for sure... but usually between 1-2 weeks after the last season ends
Como instalo sky beta??
#beta-faq Desplázate hasta la parte superior y presiona la reaccións.
Chale me dise q ya no puedo pq esta lleno
Todavía puedes entrar pero tienes que esperar a que se abran plazas.
Me avisan cuando se abra porfa
es discordia aleatoria te avisará si presionas en las reacciones
I'm well aware of that
Guys please speak English in this server.
Ni encuentro las reacciones
But skybot be slacking on other languages
I dont speak english
And I don't speak Spanish lol I've been using a translater the whole time
Where I find the reactions
Right under this message
#beta-faq message
apparently Skybot needs a new automessage for people who ask how to join the beta since that's all this chat is rn 
oh
Manifesting doot
I would like to ask you how I can do this if I have beta status on my Android device, but I want to play on my iPhone right now
you'll have to wait for another invite wave if you want to beta test on another platform 
Good morning everybody
goodnight everybody! 
hey, is anyone else struggling to log in to their beta accounts? i've tried closing and reopening steam but that didn't work, so i've uninstalled sky, and am reinstalling it now… fingers crossed it works 😭
i just hope it's not because i was removed from the beta…
Hmm lemme check
Yeah probably down, I can’t login either. And I was on like two day ago?
Ah no I got it, had to reboot steam. Sorry man. Hope yours gets working. I’ve seen a bug going around breaking a lot of games though, so def report it
yeah, i uninstalled then reinstalled, that fixed it! 😅 thanks for the advice!
sky, that is. i did not uninstall steam.
omggg i used to play beta version on my android phone, after change the new phone i havent played it until now. Today i use that android phone with the email i used to use before but i can’t download beta versionnnn SOS 🆘
Good evening everyone
My summons didn't work 😔
morning beta, it's time for a 4 shot latte because headaches 🙂
also beta, do we thing there should be some kinda guide but not a season guide standing next to the days' quests in the off season?
isnt there already the eyes being lit up on the gate of the realm where the dailies are?
I think that’d be nice— I forget events are happening if there’s no indication of them existing. 
Endless Ocean is getting a sequel! I'm excited, so I guess I should finally tackle Abyss in beta. I think that's the only season I haven't done so far 🤔 maybe? I don't know.
i may have gone too far in completing constellations 🙂
Haven't been able to do any beta cause I've been busy, but I'm finally back only to find out the beta season has ended. 
So this week or the next week hopefully we get the 0.25.0 doot 👀👀👀
Hmmm... Usually 1 month before the Season on Live ends, beta testing of the new Season begins, but not always
I'm thinking next week.
I was thinking, if we're going to have a collab in the middle of the year, I wonder which storybook, fiction, we're going to have this collab with?
I was thinking of: Red Riding Hood
Hope you guys have been sleeping well, cuz Im not XD
Sky collab once a year, i dont think we will get any by the end of the year
they said that it is possible to have another collab this year, it is included on the roadmap or blogpost they posted before
Oh boy, teaser for the new season dropped, hopefully testing soon
REVIVAL 2
NEW SEASON OMG ????
Im getting kingdom come vibes
Omg keys
scared 
Kingdom Hearts x Sky is reaaaal
||Of course it wont||
our home key🗣️
Oh fr? where is it
Screw it next season gonna be Happy Home Designer BAHAHAHA
I saw someone commented it might be the season to introduce the player houses that's been hinted at in blogposts (so like a house key?)
Tbh, it's not the playing early part of beta I enjoy, its bug hunting for all the wild game breaking things that pop up 
LETS GOOO CANT WAIT TO TEST THE NEW SEASON OML it’s been a while 😍
Are there any links or something
didnt seen one in news channel
Hi how many days has it been since nine colored deer is finished in beta?
All doors are open, pendant worthy
its on the tgc social media ^^
Season of Key 🗝️ 
HELP I WAS ABOUT TO SLEEP WHEN I GET THE NOTIFICATION 😭😭😭
Hi how many days has it been since nine colored deer is finished in beta?
HNGGGGG EXCITED
Sure, gonna check it out, ty
i’m still really worried about moving forward with housing(?) at this point in development. i will be watching carefully how this pans out as always 
Omg it's the Key to opening ||Aurora's prison cell||
Maybe a week ago?
Ok then maybe early march or 2nd week of march the new season will be in Beta.
Maybe the next season will open the building house in aviary
Season of eating keys
Season of memories where we see more sky lore yes please
Mmmmmm c r o m c h
BRO WHERE IS THE TEASER I SEE PEOPLE SAYING SOMETHING LIKE KINGDOM HEARTS AND MEMORIES JUST FLOODED
Possibly a house that we'll have? maybe?
Oh boi taxes coming to sky
I’m going to rent out my house and become rich
I’d assume maybe it’s for the housing thing they mentioned in notes already? 
Regardless, that is a BEAUTIFUL pendant. 
Oh hell no don't give them any ideas 
Thank you!!
It’s the key to open ||Hazbin Hotel|| 😟
What I see, the top of the key pendant is shaped like a home roof. And in the blogspot from TGC themselves stated something about your home in the game.
Oh yeah now that i remember i think i read somewhere where the next season was something about shared spaces i think????
Guessing from the prior season teased, that's the new pendant we will have. I love it! 
Aviary expansion maybe? 
Hope the elders hear you.
Animal crossing on sky real?
Iirc they said they would be revisiting aviary, perhaps finally an home space ? 
They said on blogpost that we will indeed return to aviary!
We will end with a life debt 
Expansion or changes to the location itself.
Remember that many people criticised the current aviary because fake Ad
Yeah it was in the roadmap they posted before #news message
Plz no, candle economy is bad enuff 
We would end up on a 500 candle debt with the hopeful steward 
I feel a mod staring at us
Debt ingame. Debt IRL. I play games to escape it, not relive it 
It's probably best to move to live channels since it's not a beta doot yet, but soon™️
They always do (Probably
)
Guess rn its valid to chat about the next season cuz right now there is nothing relevant to beta rn, just bugs and thats it XD
It would be disappointing if the whole season was just the house and not a construction location next to the aviary, like a Spirits village.
I've come back from twitter and saw that key
Long tome no see, our beta team
Have we got ready for the next still-wafo season
Maybe soon, the live chats are going CRAZY!
Prop ultimate I bet for the new season since we are supposed to get a home or something 
It would be incredible if the project aviary came back, but that would be almost impossible, unless a lot of people were in favour and changed TGC's plan.
Revival is part of this project, the next season might be the continuation of Project Aviary.
Honestly I would have loved that they keeped the wind gates of the original aviary
We need an excuse for them to bring back the eden crown
Put that huge dark plant in aviary into use, let us get building materials off it.
But honestly a season fully focused on housing would be a waste they need to expand aviary more it feels so empty
Like use the giant dark plant that now is covered in clouds
God forbid that crown is an ult. Would be so disappointing for players who join after.
I feel it'll be cozy cosmetics more domestic ones and a prop ult. Things to decorate with. Maybe a slipper ult for house shoes would be funny and goofy 👽
Assembly 3,0 is crazy
Ohhhh so the next season is basically Revival Part 2
Maybe broo
Maybe a combination of remembrance and assembly?
i just want lore related season (without eden quest pls)
You will get lore with The Two Embers, hopefully it comes this year uwu
Or if it's eden don't force us to die they already used that twice
I just want a proper Eden season that gives us lore on how Sky became the baren wasteland it is today
Like the King hasn’t even been properly introduced and this game is what 5 years old?
I think they also shouldn't just use the emotes for story telling in sky feels a bit odd seeing the spirits do the typical emotes they should do a custom animation for them so the story feels more inmersive
I honestly would love for Sky’s main story to continue instead of always getting new seasons.
An eden season where we actually destroy eden and something else takes its place for AC purposes. I just want eden to die...
Yeah the main game is being forgotten now the charm of the game Is dying slowly
I can smell a doot coming in 5 4 3 2 1 week from now
The charm is always there, mostly for the new players.
I don't think petty is the word is just that the main thing that made sky unique feels like is not the priority anymore I don't feel the same care and attention to the details TGC used to bring with every season anymore
I don’t like saying this about TGC but it feels like TGC is just producing quantity over quality a lot of times with these seasons
I agree with you there stuff feels rushed like they are now forced to release content by orders of one of the superiors
Canonical event
💸

Season of revival it's a rush season
Oh boy its getting spicy here!
Personally I would prefer them bringing some mini events that let us get a few candles to keep us entertained for them to have more time to develop the next seasons and content
It’s an extremely complicated topic and you must consider the scope of the game, development team practices, live service demands and more.
If TGC stayed with the project aviary from the trailer, maybe we'd have more interesting things, but they rushed a new location for I don't know what reason.
Honestly this is why they should’ve made Aviary a side realm to Isle of Dawn just like how it was originally introduced in the Light Awaits betas. Just to have that nicer flow into the rest of the story
Time to guess the new season name
Season of keys 🗝️
It was shocking to me how little changed for 9 color deer. But people kept saying it was bc maybe Collab paterner was strict so idk. Revival had a cool ult and premise but the ending celebration felt very sudden and not fleshed out enough.
Also while the topic is complicated, it does feel more rushed on some seasons.
Seasons of Privacy or Home, maybe
Season of reimagination
Development is hard moffs, I wish the Sky team gets bigger
Also maybe it's just me but has anyone felt like something is odd about the approach the devs has been taking towards us like the stuff they release is like a really early concept that changes a lot
Ooooooooo Season of House Hunting?
This is because the game has to balance how drastic the changes introduced in/adjacent to seasons are. All (non collaboration) seasons add on to core game functions. To increase game longevity and keep the promise of new seasonal content, the scale and amount of changes must be in line.
Money, money is the reason. Tgc is growing greedier by the season. This has been the sentiment of many since aurora and even before... Though maybe not in discord for whatever reason.
I wish new winged light😂
sigh alrighy peeps I will leave, enjoy your modern Sky rant. 
Maybe something better: A new power for Skykid to do something impossible at the moment
A winged light that can burn giant Dark plants
It’s also a problem of keeping the changes introduced per season feasible for development and the environment of Sky.
To me, seasons feel rushed compared to 2021. Maybe it's because of so many platforms they have opened up to or something, but it just feels we get a lot more rushed feeling seasons to me. That's just how I feel though. I get it's complicated, but from my past seasons compared to now it just feels stuff is getting pushed out before it feels really ready or done.
Many of the newer areas are big, very empty, have little to no candles and nothing really to do in them after the season ends, it's been disappointing and feels like they're definitely rushing more than they should with seasons and I hope that it improves more this year
I'm excited too (new oob) next season 👍
I think with big areas being empty with almost no wax and no wing lights probably a good majority never visits them again once the season is over
It could be for many reasons, possibly a change in the core team designing seasons and maps and their respective design approaches, that is causing this feeling in you.
Season of Greedy Landlords
I would love for another season of flight in terms of area and spirit/cosmetic details. I like the story there too but do wish the corruption of the overall area wasn't resolved as quickly.
(What would I feedback here lol)
I think the current aviary is too small, tbh
Me too, I'm sort of disappointed with how it is currently now that I went back and and watched the project aviary trailer from a year ago, it looked super lively and fun
I hope they add onto the area with something similar upcoming season, like a neighborhood maybe?
a key to open up all the bug fixes maybe 
A KEY?!
KINGDOM HEARTS LET'S GO -
the key season icon, with a house shaped 
we really getting a house?
Even hinting at a new season with the state live is right now, feels like a rushed decision.
Season of the Passage came out 1 day after beta testing
so the new season's tests could come out at any moment
Yeah why announcing a new season when live version rn is full of bugs
Animal crossing time let's go
The features that will likely be used in this prospective season have fundamental game design and presentation issues and bugs that need to be addressed before revisiting them.
if they give me a chance to spawn inside the house, i will love this new season
Yes but shouldn't that be kept for beta for now and then once is a little polished do the announcement?
Yooo that would be sick
Your own customisable spawn space
Somehow reminded me of club penguin igloos lol
yeessss, i like that idea cy 
Reminding me of animal jam dens kinda...

Speaking of, I'm thinking of making a full blown mural art featuring each of the quests to celebrate end of the 9cd season, it's been my favourite lately and I swear I'll miss it when it's over
As a solo player who doesn't really like bumping into friends randomly when I'm just trying to light people up and go to bed, this would be amazing lol
If they're going animal crossing on us I want more colourful furniture cuz the defaults and non IAP are way too plain
I’m especially worried about how servers will be handled in prospective player housing.
Sky x Sims 4
I can imagine all the bugs
They could just make it local when you're alone and send the changes to the server when you change your house
color customizable furnitures?! 
how we wish
unless...?
If the past few updates to live are to go by, beta is less of a tool to hunt for bugs or server issues and more of a testing field to wage people's reaction to cute items and buggy props.
Anybody remember dream addresses in Animal crossing? We can have something like that 
Can we actually customise wallpaper and environment and not just place furniture I beg
I just hope the house is really private and not like that useless do-not-disturb spell we have.
i want my pink wallpapers

Imagine if you can just set the grass to pink all year so it's not just the few days they remembered to remove the snow lol
Ohhhh, detailed customization, I would die for that :pwow:
If they allowed us to use our sky pictures as decorations that would be awesome
Like Season of performance pictures
are we longer going to be homeless !?

Season of Homelessness
I don’t think the game has any access to its own photos on any of its platforms. So unless some app permissions are implemented/changed, it’s a no. Which is also a potential security issue(?).
💥
The game would have to implement a feature where it stores the actual information from the camera prop, I think…

Now about the house... that house that's under construction
next to the harmony hall, I don't think it's going to be our house but a
restaurant (according to some people who have accessed the oob there).
Housing crisis, coming soon to sky.
If they implement some sort of rent system, i swear to king im going to play something else...
It could be like Zelda ToTK where there's a limited ingame gallery and you can use those pictures to hang up on the wall of the home you build 
if we're talking about totk, i want to put a dailies shrine in my house 
random little thing to add 
there's a dark plant shrouded in some clouds roughly near the waterfall and butterfly roof.
(idk if that means anything but we could be getting an expansion for aviary
)
(and maybe some new props like house customization???
)
That plant has been there since the beginning but seems like they discard the idea kind of
Yeah they did mention in the last blog that they're adding some of the things they cut from Revival, and we're getting a living space
oh oki 
K e y
the plant wasnt covered by the clouds when they first shown aviary in beta 
KINGDOM HEARTS
KINGDOM HEARTS
(it's not but it's funny
)
Maybe they can bring it back and the aim would be to burn that plant
But the message always appears: "you need a stronger light" or something like that
so my theory that we'll have a new ability in the game might come true this season
or not. 
Aviary used to be a bit bigger overall before they added more clouds to cover stuff up, I hope they go away next season
Home, home (aby), home (house)... A place to belong, i get it already please staph.
i keep hearing “akira, akira”, and that season pendant flashes in my mind 
leave me alone
key
AAAAAA
Oh no, I've remembered something: mannequins again nooooooo
mannequins with the player look function that follow your every move:
House of horrors
Maybe there won't be mannequins who knows
Everyone getting a house ingame since they can’t irl
I want a mannequin to place in the home to display my favorite outfits, buuuut not if they still do that 
spirits building houses and growing gardens… and owning a restaurant 
Better pay that 10 candles a day or you get thrown to the abyss.
the spirits have been doing it for ages, I feel like it’s a bug that’s never getting addressed
Imagine if we can set up mannequins like in animal crossing where it's like the changing room with preset outfits AND WE CAN FINALLY HOT SWAP ENTIRE OUTFITS-
Yesss omg that would be fantastic because I swap between the same 5 outfits multiple times a day loll
I'm dreaming too much and one of those dreams is for the Light awaits Capes to return (I hate Tier 2 Cape)
I would like to see an improvement to the bugs that exist in the game before a new season teaser and it makes me sad that even though they promised to address bugs more often it seems like they will continue pushing new stuff and letting bugs slip by. They need to open up bug reporting on a website and not just discord because it's a little bit ridiculous to have a game on multiple platforms and be unable to submit bug reports unless you have a phone number attached to your account. it should be your player ID that is required to verify your account to report with a website
Buying a house between a couple of friends and decorating things together would be cool tho. Like a true shared space/home.
For me I just want to be free of random outfits when I do outfit requests lmao
LET ME CHANGE BACK TO MY OUTFIT THAT USES EVERY ACCESSORY CATEGORY IN PEACE 
We should have presets to just change quickly between outfits
i dont want more random objects that i feel obligated to grind candles for 😭 thats all i can think of with a house based season
When it’s actually season of restauranting and you have to collect peices of a key for your grand opening 
i agree about needing a place to report bugs outside discord but you definitely don't need to connect your phone number to your discord account to do it, i've been sending in bug reports since 2021 and i don't have it linked
That's the cool part, the best props are probably going to be iaps.
ah right of course, how could i forget 🫠
I just hope we can invite friends to our homes 
It wouldn't make sense here, because as TGC itself said, this will be the final construction of the aviary (who knows, they may change their plans in the future).
it's possible they might be purchased from the guide like every other shared space-related season, tgc doesn't do seasonal iaps unless they're doing a collab 
wait i thought they said aviary would continue to evolve, is this really their last planned change to it?
There is an underground restaurant that was seen in the beta builds and even some leftover skins of it in live XD
We don't really know their full plans for Aviary
The pass is an iap
Bubba that's your grand master plan to rob them blind of candles I see you 🫵
I FORGOR 
exactly. and all the best stuff always gets locked behind jt
Yes, but it could come this Season more like.... wait now that I get your point lmao 
this server requires phone number verification to send messages/react 
it was changed during 2021/2022 iirc
Nooooo, it's also absolutely not to lure friends in and steal their fox plushies either 
its also still wild to me that you have to pay real money for the passes and then you also still have to grind for seasonal candles anyways
Actual question I’ve had to ask several times: do you get any form of automatic response email when you send in your beta application? i.e. a copy of your Google form?
Also, some of the most stylish props are locked behind "days of" events, also iaps.
it's like every other game pass subscription ever, it's fine
messed up and evil (joke) 😔 we super need another place to submit bugs then
Yeah plenty of games do that, you still need to put in the work if you buy a season pass
well no, most "season passes' make it so you get to experience the season itself. but free players still get to play thru the season
like a dlc pass
free players do play through the season though?
And... Everyone can play through the season regardless? The quests are accessible by everyone
Iirc in early seasons the final cutscene was pass locked
Ayo imagine paying to see the final memory of shattering 
You gotta pay up to get that sweet sweet lore 
Don't remember the last game with a pass where I was forced to spend additional money if i missed a couple of days of dailys...
Pay to WL everyone step right up $14.99-
if you miss enough of any event in any game you end up having to make up for it, it happens in every single game I've ever played I'm really confused what games you guys are playing
in other games you still lose items if you don't keep up with your dailies
what games are you playing where season pass means normal content update
Unless you're playing animal crossing and time travel
i meant more in reference to other live service games ive played, usually a season pass is required to gain access to any season content. in sky you can still play the season without paying, and the only things that are pass exclusive, you still have to grind for them. usually grinding is what you do as a free player, and paying typically is the workaround for not having to grind
aye, no new update on beta? how long is it now after the season ends yesterday in beta? i havent on beta lately
Yeah and you get a bonus 30 SC off the bat and if you want more SC you keep paying with money, same principle
like how in general in sky, if you dont want to grind for candles, you can always just buy them
You have to miss a TON of days to miss out on getting Seasonal pass items, I think it's pretty generous tbf
bug fixes and improvements
but we're probably gonna find out whatever's going on with that key teaser soon
Again any game I've played with a paid pass includes having to still grind for the actual items, I just get bonus items and extra currency from it so I'm really just confused which games you've experienced differently
Usually 2 weeks time from the main season run time from what I've noticed
but 30sc is barely enough for a couple of tiers on one spirit
Pgr, unite, kings castle, etc. You can buy the pass at any point and complete the quest retroactively. Most pass i have encountered functioned this way. For me, sky is the weird one.
(This isn't related to the conversation topic, but I wanted to say I love your current icon, Squeak! I can't help but smile back at that smiling bat face, ehehe)
Omg I can't wait to see new things in beta, manifesting doot 
I don't see what your point is
If you don't like how the sky paid pass works then don't buy or invest time into it lol
This is also an old conversation that goes nowhere so if you care about it then #live-feedback
Think: If what the person said
The season may be about getting keys to unlock new houses, but this... will be a repetitive Season of Revival...
I'm honestly excited. It probably means more content for revival if that's the case. They did mention they plan to expand eventually 
i dont
i just wish they did things differently is all. if season passes gave you the pass exclusive items off the bat, i'd be more willing to pay for it
Good for you then I guess
But maybe I'm wrong, or I could do what I said but with a different premise, the missions could be different and not do missions from past Seasons, but what will it be like? I don't know.
I wanna know the naaaaame I wonder if we'll get another season of punctuation 
we've had plenty of seasons with similar subject matter (assembly and rememberance did shared spaces, prophecy and passage did trials) and they're very distinct to me
tgc has extra incentive to make revival and key season feel different since they're nearly back to back
I don't believe they'd include the past season quests bc revival was built for moths/new players in mind
we are still missing some of the past seasonal guides in aviary so they could show up in relevant quests 
assembly, prophecy, sanctuary, etc
and those seasons have props added to the ts trees
like way after the season ended
We don't know what the season is going to be like so no one can really say it's going to be repetitive. It's two seasons that happen to be in the same area, that's all we know
I almost forgot it was called Season of ??? for awhile, haha. I hope we get the sequel, Season of !!!
sending in info is the only way to get into the pc demo, for mobile you can only get in on an invite wave but you don't need to tell them your device specs
Season of Key to ???
I will say i’m pleased that my prediction that aviary would become a new realm and have seasons made in it was correct 
NO WAY THEY WOULD MAKE A WHOLE NEW PLACE AND NOT ADD SEASONS TO IT FOR CONTENT
These are theories I've come up with, it's not something that's going to happen (or could happen) but it's nice to theorise about what's going to happen.
season of House ✨
i hope the assembly quests get featured so people can do them without spending like an hour coordinating a group 
season of Maushold
H a u s
y’all this is coming full circle to kingdom hearts im telling ya-
Season of Homestead (because I want a house AND a garden or smthg) 
You are Genius!!!!!
season of Maus in the Haus
PLEASE GIVE US MASKS THIS SEASON I BEG
If it becomes kingdom hearts that means Sans is canon to Sky by proxy.
OH i see
i don't know if you can still gain entry right now but you should be able to resend the form without losing your spot
🐸 Mask
The ultimate is a key that allows us to open 4 player doors by ourselves. Thats an ult i would pay for.
guys
guys this is the season where they can give us a monocle because you use one to build furniture finely-
OK, I did not know if they actually used your other contact information for actually contacting you.
<- keyblade wielder
YESSSS we deserve to look like distinguished gentlekids,
Candleblade now :>
If sans is canon to sky, maybe we will get moth in smash bros
it’s true i have evidence
your art is so awesome cy 💗
Giant key prop ult when???
Season of cease and desist
i’m just imagining their moves being blow kiss and crab dance 
hunter: excuse me
The ultimate smash move is moth summons butterflies that carry other players off the stage
Even better
no luci it’s manta napping into red shards
the biggest pain
Moth attacks with a candle
we need a skinny guide 🔥
such as the spirit who gives kisses 
moth attacks with
HONK
Prop item (because they usually add one) added is just an Oreo plush that squeaks when you hit others
tbh I wanna see another non humanoid guide
give me another rock ty
Oh yeah this is much better than discussing tgc monetization. 
I said this and didn't end up doing anything today 😆
My friend and I chatting about the Ultimate gift: A carpet name: Welcome
puts hands together spreads the prayer circle for elder masks to finally drop because they increased pnr difficulty all of a sudden
Festive Spin Dancer: may I
Just remembered: It'll be two years since the Elders masks were released
I WANT THE GOLDEN WASTELAND ELDER MASK!!!
I HAVE 1.3K AC IN LIVE GIVE ME THE REST OF THE ELDER MASKS ALREADY AAAAAAA
I'm excited cuz it'll give me something to save my AC for. Rn I've been not saving as much since I got all the other masks.
Season of Ikea
The key is supposed to represent how we all got locked in when buying furniture
Season of 3008
guys does this mean in the future we could have a locket pendant and we take the key and unlock the secrets
There is either a balancing issue or level design issue in PNR. The wind implemented causes players to enter a pinwheeling animation when jumping, and when you are knocked down by rocks or consecutively blown away by wind during this pinwheeling-get up animation process, you are stunlocked. Because players were simultaneously given the freedom to run and jump again in the same update where the wind became very strong, they are experiencing these animation locks frequently.
no actually it’s keys to your new car and they have finally returned sky flying boats (I wish
)
wren it’s your car
your non baby car
The stunlocking issue of being constantly knocked down by the rock rain is not intended, as it was mentioned in #known-issues . However, the overall adjustments to make Eden more challenging are intentional, to account for the increased number of WLs that are available in the game
I feel like also, the key reminded me a lot of the prophecy pendant for some reason

nah, it’s just scaled to 200 WL
I made it to the end with 34 left, entered with 221
I think it’s extremely assuming to say it’s an oversight when there were multiple iterations in beta tweaking pnr mechanics
I entered with 214 in live and made it to the last statue with 6/1.
This is because of the time spent walking after the last torch checkpoint to mitigate the risk of stunlocking.
I didn’t walk at all I just booked it and that made getting to the end way better than walking
I walked in beta with 190 WL and never got to the last statue, you just gotta spam jump and pray
….they had 2 years of data from live players. they know what they’re doing.
beta’s play style pool is too small for them to do much about things, so it’s better for them to test the changes on live tbh
Based on the state live is right now, they clearly don't.
ahshshhshshs, my car keys for my comically non-baby sized car !! It is a mystery how I drive it with my tiny legs
you ride it like a tricycle honk honk
🐣
Let’s GOOOO 
Oooo new season to test 
What are you talking about?
Everything is great in Ba sing Se.
no wait it has to be the server error window that pops up
or yellow wifi aggressive server split
Was I the only one who thought that skybot was telling us to go die in eden? 
Does the deer mask give you a special call? TCG missed out big time for a deer call 
it does not give you a special call unfortunately
i wonder what a deer call would sound like
Did the new season arrive?
Soon
apart from an ominous key pendent tgc posted nope
Where can this be seen
Thank you
I imagine the key is like a metaphor for opening up to someone 
Might be hella wrong tho 
I feel… like this is way too early to be hinting at a new season. It feels like we’re already rushing this current one 
i was thinking it could be a key to vault of knowledge 👁️ 👁️
1 season beta test pls 
i guess that key if for the repairing house in aviary
probably no other suggestions 🤣
next season is supposed to be set in the aviary again isn't it? i thought they said that somewhere
yeah, i think they mentioned it in their news page, something about living space
LOVE IS AN OPEN DOOOORR~~~~
I just read the news of next season's symbol.
Soo... who's heart we need to unlock? 
The kingdom hearts
I've made this joke 5 times now someone stop me
Krill's heart 
eden's king.... 👻
little surprised beta didn't get the update for testing before they teased it
they did tease for moments, aviary and even 9cd way way before the beta test
I assume they've been working every season's before it gets teased so I don't know what counts as rushed ngl while it may feel like it because of our perspective as the non devs
true, but i was rly inactive those seasons bc of burnout so idk much about it still
i don't think it seems rushed, but its just a weird feeling for that to be out there before beta gets to test anything for it yk? it's not bad at all per se, just kinda funny imo
Oh also aurora was teased in Performance's Harmony Hall, as shown as a mural
i forgot about that
Yeah it is weird, but it happens when things were already in the alpha testing before the beta test for playerbase so we only see from only one pov as a non dev
For example, imagine I do a big wip, but only teased it when it's close to completion, and it looks like I'm rushing it hahah xD
speaking of aurora, is there any way to "revert" the changes done to coliseum yet?? my friend refuses to even play the season bc they hate how it looks bc of the trees (and tbh i agree, i only like the glowing symbols)
also yea, it looks a lil odd to us bc of how it's done, but nothing inherently wrong with it, its just a lil silly lol
hmm not that I know of tbh unfortunately :')
lol yeah it's silly to see people being caught off guard (me included) but not surprised either
some people think its gonna be a collab season? tbf it seems a lot of collaborative seasons have teasers before beta gets it so?
Nope I doubt its another collab season. Moments, Revival and Passage were non collab seasons do get teasers before beta recently xD
But it's understandable!
i see i see, maybe we'll get something soon in beta updates lol
Wasn't there something about the next season being aviary part 2?
Yes it's in the blog spot
iirc it stated "next season we will return to aviary"
Man I'm excited to see and test the new season but at the same time I'm so burnt out from Sky 
It's okay! Take break when you need 
I'm finding having both beta and live can sometimes bore me a little cos I'm doing the same things twice in the same day ^^;;
I’m hoping iOS finally gets invites after 9 months or so of waiting
Ahhh same for android (me)
aww yea i get it, i barely played for both memory and aviary seasons, sadly that led to me missing the last ult gift bc i got rlly busy when i actually felt like playing :((( but def take breaks! you can focus on live more, and we'll always be here to talk til you get motivation again!!
But I want to see the shinies so I press on
I haven't opened beta in at least a month now, hopefully I can get back into it
Best part being a live only player is that I get a fresh experience in live even if I have seen some pics in beta
i like to beta test sometimes bc i have a snapdragon device, sadly i cant use my switch to beta test but idk maybe i'll find some snapdragon android stuff wrong to help others who didnt get into beta not struggle with those
(plus i struggle with a severe lack of direction, so learning about stuff while its in beta helps me a lot in live when helping friends)
I like to beta test cause I'm really into game development, however playing two different versions of the same game daily for 30+ minutes kills
I do not have the energy for that right now, especially with uni having started this week 😓
perhaps it's best to lurk around in beta and experience it later in live (at least for me)
But no rush! ^^
Definitely will be popping in from time to time to check things out and test new stuff as usual, not sure how consistently though haha

If next season does let us create a permanent living space in sky you can bet im gonna find a way to include 227673, 227673 will never be forgotten
227673 in binary code 
Use the trial icon props to make the 0s and 1s
that's actually genius omg
Well.. I forgot, mind to telling me?
ping me as I'm going offline now and I'll see the ping when I come online
Last year, we talked about our love of festivals, and wanting to bring those vibes to Sky with the introduction of Aviary Village. Season of Revival laid the foundation—this year is full-on building mode!
For starters, in Sky’s next Season we return to Aviary Village and add some of the things we’ve hinted at in the past. So for those of you who have daydreamed about your own living space in Sky, your dreams will soon become reality! We’re also leveling up what we refer to as Player Creations, and giving aspiring thespians of all levels more ways than ever before to express and connect. Sky is your stage, and we want to see your creativity bloom.
227673 was a beta joke from all the way back here #beta-discussion message
Will invitations be open until the beta starts next season?
Hope this season brings us an actual shop for props and not like the music shop..
I hope the house is private, it wouldn't make sense for you to have a house where your friends can break in without you asking.
that is what the key is for 
what about the lock?
I saw most of the skykids talking abt permanent home space
another season another no dark season (we fr need darkness seasons cuz we only had a dash of abyss and shattering)
Hii
SEASON OF PAYING HOUSE RENT LOL 
I wonder if the new Aviary season will reveal that weird Colosseum area in the Aviary Village that was clouded over
cause we know that they didn’t delete that area, knowing that part of the dark plant is visible.
I hope it will bring back the diner 
Season of housing crisis real

That sounds like Portugal

i thought we are homeless and sleep wherever whenever we want
I see the
Seasonal logo
Welp time for uhh beta comeback later 💀🙏
Imagine having to pay rent in the new season
@rugged kindle Ah I see, I had missed that. Only remembered the initial news. ty~
It could be to level up the Aviary Village from the outside I think? 🤔
no probs! you can check it out every month which is nice ^^
Can it be that the section with working sign be the specific area for skykids home.
Omg this means we have a key pendant now

chit-chat: I've played Sky for about 1100 days, and I just found that I'm now getting used to white-hair characters. Even in other game, I would prefer white-hair characters more than others for no reason. Am I supposed to be this?
Good morning everybody
seasonal pendant in the form of a key, what does it mean it will be renewed soon?
Well, we should get a update either this week or next week so, wait and find out
maybe in the future, a waffle Amazon link will be popular in beta channel
Love your name XD
Let's find out soon
When do the new season starts in beta ?
@olive holly, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
Can someone do some maths for me? How long is the average time between teaser and the first build of the season 👹
Usually it's not too long of a wait, probably around 1 to 2 weeks ( unlike Season of AURORA that was almost a month or more ). But then again, we can't know for sure until we get official confirmation in the #beta-announcements channel
