#beta-discussion
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I just hope abyss has a cool event attached to it sometime as a reason to return 
like how prairie peaks got blanketed in snow for feast, that's so cool
days of thalassophobia, anyone?
yeah, i also respect everyone who didn't like, bc it wasn't their fault at all, i think tgc failed on making it more accessible :(
but for me this season received a lot of love from TGC in it's development, the cutscenes, the little story, the characters and also the environment details, OHHH DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED
I love to just relax on the cave on the starting area of the abyss region, on top of the manta statue, because you can hear the droplets of water along the water of the entrance to the underground area... 🥹
screw it, sharknado time
I hope next days of nature we get a another creature again. I would love to see a dark sea creature

krill shark
i want a ground creature, that can later spawn on other areas and maybe even follow you
you cleared the vortex, now the vortex clears you
imagine light capybaras in sky....,,..,. 🥺
they would have the little light thing on their forehead
petition for next days of nature to take place at treasure reef
sanctuary is bloated enough
I GOTTA MAKE A CONCEPT ART OF THIS
I love talking here in beta chat it’s getting me more comfortable being a bit more active here and not just looking at news

i also enjoy it a lot more than genchat for example, bc beta is a bit less chaotic
I still need a light cat that just follows me around and sits on my lap when I sit/lie down and it can purr omg please purrrr because it's so calming (imagining that and sitting in rainforest area with the rain and the purr of a cat on my lap)
i never show up to genchat but i'm always here in the beta chats 
My gosh a light and dark cat 
Though I think the dark needs some animal love
ground light creatures are a bit tricky since they never made a land based creature larger than a crab, with an actual hitbox that is not a skykid, unless they not mind us phasing through solid lifeforms
if it's a small one like a capybara or a guinea pig i think it wouldn't be a problem
that is true, like a crab reskin
yeah!
I did Seasonal quest 4 in live today and I didn't skip the acknowledgements list. Then I saw "
Thanks to all beta testers" appeared near the end.
Dude I was about to cry. Never thought that I'd somehow show up on that list someday

you didn't know that? i think it's so cool!
tgc does really wonderful stuff, even if you dislike the company, a lot of the devs and people in there are kind-hearted
I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THAT AND NOW I'M SAD
What!!! They put that inwiebeiwnw

also i think that was there since the beggining of the game
i just noticed the heart scepter has black firework colour? sounds like a bug
but it also serves as a continuous thank you to all the beta testers even up to this day!!!
I didn't even noticed that before although today is the 1,000th day since my skykid was born
I think that worth a feedback
wanna share this feeling
always watch the credits to the end to see the megabird
Tgc is such a lovely company ❤️ I’m so glad I got into beta
Also random note I’ve started to recognize the more popular people here like cy, jaws, Mei etc
oh how could I forget sof!!

Is this on live ver or not?
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Also Sof!
me?!??!! popular?!?!? whar---- 🥺
i didnt know that 🥹
You are!

imma cry a bit wait 🥹
i knew i was kinda active here but not so much that people would remember me lol
Sof may be busy with something now.
I guess that worths a ping to her 
@dry ibex
i also remember many remarkable people on here, i hope this community always stays alive bc it's one of the places i most adore to talk
also do yall think TGC is going to accept more people in PC beta still? 
it should be pretty close to the release, since they said the ETA was until the end of this year... 
I'm popular what
I just have Opinions™️
(I try to provide nuance to conversations because I've worked in gamedev so I understand what the process is like)
oh that's so cool, i really want to work on world/level designs that are artistically beautiful and charming like Sky does, idk if i'm capable of doing the whole thing but even if i am, my focus (besides ost music) is on creating environments like sky
I'm still hoping for a November 27th release so PC players can enjoy the Firework preparations 
that would be a very cool way to release the game, people can enjoy the fireworks and the finale and also go straight to the new season after
I think it’s imminent, maybe this weekend
I doubt they'd just surprise drop it like this lol
but I wish it was next week so we could get Dancing performer on December 7th 
I mean, switch was released in about the same way
Somehow my gaming computer can't run sky I guess it's just slightly to old
i can help if u want
my pc is not even a gaming one and it runs SO WELL
it wasn't ?
The release date was announced on June 10th 2021, and the game came out on June 29th
It just says the gpu is wrong
Hi! #pc-questions might help with that 
they might have an issue with AVX2 support and unfortunately we don't know yet if they'll work on AVX compatibility 
oh i think i know the issue
awww noooo
hope you can get that issue fixed
Oh yeah 
im really not, i just hang around here and things happen 😭
honestly that’s what we all do here 😭 we just wafo
OMG I SUMMONED THE SKYBORACLE SOOOOFFF PSPSPSPS
chook
tak 
Moths
COFFEE
i think that doot will be at mon-tue...
You are!! 
goodtimezone beta channel
going to sleep now 
I hope the doot comes soon I’m excited to see how they turned that lil stone deer under the beta waterfall in peaks into something magical
Totally not me checking the server every 2 seconds to see if the doot came to life-
Same
Since the season logo is silver do it mean we getting another silver pendant or will it be white with shine on it?
Rlly hoping it's white and shiny 
I just hope it's not a super expensive season but that's how collabs are
I hope the deer prances to beta soon
If we do have a deer as the guide I want it mobile and moving across the ground gracefully that would be so awesome also it would be a new animal addition to the sky animals : D
Collab guides are usually special models so it probably will be
I wanna see some fanmade concept art of elder masks for Valley² + Wasteland + Vault Elders, to help fill the gaping void in my soul
The valley masks at least exist actually XD if you look closely at the race entrances you’ll see two statues wearing half masks don’t know if that’s the design they’ll use tho
now i gotta check
does anyone know what actually changed about the snowboard controls?
I think they just fixed it being buggy, before we started riding it without activating it. Now we have to press the icon to start using it (and again to leave it on our back).
Nevermind, it still auto activates... 
Huh. No clue then
yea no it still does that for me
yeah it needs a lot of work still lol
Have they changed the lighting system again? I was just sliding through that one tunnel, going towards the ice rink and it felt a lot different. 
When flying, we hold it in our hand? I think it stuck to our feet before? but I can't entirely recall...
Yeah it used to be stuck to the feet in flight, now it goes on your hand
doot!!!??
oh of course it comes out after i send in a bunch of feedback which is probably now all outdated
Bug fixes and improvements!
🎺
™️
it’s dootin time
doot?!
I LOOKED AWAY FOR ONE SECOND
HI DEROKO
I doubt the doot is for the deer season, it literally only JUST got announced 
Hiii 
DOOOOOOTTT
Doot!
yea we're not doing season til we're done with feast and fireworks
Still funny tho
Its downloading at snail speed again 🐌
There's doot?
Well gonna wait since I'm android 
manifesting the boots and hat this doot 
A Friday doot is my favourite always 
Yossshhhh testing for the weekend
Bug improvements
They become more creative and sneaky 
Me too 
blink and you miss it moment
i hope you all got your manta riding fun in before
Im betting the forced sitting is gone
goodbye fun /j
Rolly Polly time now : D
hope this doot improve firework event, getting my eyes burn was not it 
Can they fix the keyboard close = text poof bug? 
Oh omg I just realised it’s the last day of Feast. Tomorrow no more snowy aviary
(I assume???)
Should still be snowy for Fortune and stuff
Homespace yes, but when Feast temporarily ended, the snow in aviary vanished too (I hope not bc it’s so pretty)
Wait we're getting a doot today?
Oooh true 😭 I'll miss the snow. It's been so beautiful
Ye snow should fully disappear when days of fortune ends then comes pink grass

Ikr

How do we know we're getting a doot today??
Pardon my silliness
But was the event cape from the spirit white before?
Because we got the TestFlight notification (if you saw that typo no you didn’t)
welp, the snowboard seems to be the same ?
???????
Check screenshotttssss it’s so white I’m blinded
Ohhh that’s interesting, I liked it better red 
Its so cute!
IAP now?
Oh no its IAP no
Rip
Oh wow. Doesn't look like that for me
oh no. i actually kinda prefer it being red 
It
It's a new look I guess
Huh so the race prop isn’t on the tree anymore?
Gets blinded
Wait did the doot already come out then?
Ohhhh man im android lol
welp we got the snowboard free, but at the cost of getting another free capes
and a fun prop
Guys where is the race prop
is it removed or was it moved to iap?
Ah, yes. The android struggles of waiting 😭
OH ITS SAGOO
Doot notes will be later today y'all, just a heads up
HEAVY BREATHING
Iap
Also it hase music now when racing
YALL RUN CHECK WHAT YOU CAN FIND BEFORE NOTESSSS
Agressive searching and flying noises
Hmmm okay thanks 
Later today for me will be at like 4AM tomorrow 
DOOT NOTES LET'S GOOOOOOOO
agressive honking from a distance for recharge
You can join firework event by mediate circle now 
panic wing flapping and bonking into walls
Frantic attempts at oobing to find leftover dev stashes
RUUU- ahem i mean..
FLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!
well now you can choose to activate festmode
Snail speed download
Gasp doot???
doot available on android for me now 
THAT'S SO NICE TO HEAR! I see the value of fest tech, but sometimes I just...don't want it
Coat cape disappeared from ec tree
Woah!???
but you still can't emote whilst sitting so i dunno if i am trapping people by sitting here
Omg thats massive
Finally there wont be a bunch of badmintons around my skykid
My download is stuck at a quarter and isn't moving 
Oh I’m in 
THEY SAID THAT THEY CHANGE THE CAPE TO IAP 😭😭😭😭
yea but do you still get to see fireworks if you're not in fest mode?
Most likely
Im curious about this as well, gonna head straight there. This is cool!! Didn’t expect this
i am not even surprised
We need more IGC capes 
u made 2 mistakes in iap word xoxo
I spent over 50 bucks getting DoM cosmetics
My poor wallet ...
so... no season yet?
then for what did i update beta so fast🥺
But it's like there's 3-4, or more IAP capes for days of feast and it's like 1 cape for the f2p moffs
No i'm saying we need more in game currency capes, why would I want more in app purchase ones? 
WHAT- DUDE I WAS STILL SAVING UP FOR THAT- SO NOW WE ONLY HAVE LIKE... 2 IGC ITEMS THIS YEAR?
But the snowboard is igc!! 
They're not doing a DoSu situation with expensive board
not us... but tgc do want👉👈
Not me that just spent my candols on ec tickets to find out the coat cape is missing 
Then again, we got 3 IGC items for DoM, guess they need balance?
Maybe funding? For the collab (possibly) or for Aviary Updates for later?
EC forces people to sit…?
oh no we're in less than one minute
I get no music with fest tech on. Just the crowd noise.
Omg I really wish that the candles didn’t keep on playing once we stopped it 😭
Abyss guide join us in the firework event 
Another 84 year long doot download 
Easier to just watch the fireworks from the seats
Dang... I just realized I got null itemed again cause of the cape and snowboard swap. I'll never be able to get the cape now 
oh hahhah there's ooh and ah sound effects
AND THERE IS MORE NOISE AND SOUND EFFECTS WOAH
this is so fun i feel like watching new year firework again 
Oh no! Did we all get nulled 
from me and this one other kid
Feels more like a show now and not just chaos…lol
The “crowd noise” sounds way too much like humans omg
There are actual voices during fireworks festival ………
So the seats don’t force everyone else to sit in their spot?
@sof can't join you sorry!
flash bang issue from previous version hasn't been fix yet, my eyes 
Tbh now that I think about it... it's probably too late for the devs to swap the cape back to igc sadly, cause days of feast is coming soon-ish in live, and all that stuff. Plus with the amount of uproar we had to make so the cat hair would be igc again... I just don't think we're ever gonna get the cape back to being f2p.
O….lol… I guess there is music. I must have just had it turned down in settings
dont give up! if its clearly unpopular enough, they would hopefully still listen to us
Challenge accepted 
First at all, days of feast have no date, maybe it will come in January. Second, beta stuff does not always be the same as in live, as sample, crab headwear were turned into ugc, even though it was an iap.
unintentional sagomay all nighter it's all nighter somewhere
I want the cape back to EC again

Pretty sad the cape is IAP now :( made the two items I really don’t care about (pine cone and snowboard) the IGC stuff. Those boots were cool too… rip
@sudden pine when I was outside of concert tech mode, I didn’t see the event or spirits - so meditate to see the event but concert tech is there (which is ok!!! I don’t mind it there at all but the crowd noise omg 😭)
oh, concert fireworks was going on for me but not you ?
@dry ibex sorry for ping but can you see my hair a moth or different when I actually use the two new free hairs
Outside of concert tech?
Thing is tho, even if we don't know the EXACT day it's starting, we can always assume based on PREVIOUS starting times for the event, also the sudden changes for live were still a big loss too. Cause we lost the crab cape in the middle of that-
They made the new feast cape iap?
no i was in the fireworks with music and stuff
Where are you?
Also, we don’t know if the feast cape is IAP - it’s not showing up in the shop for people who didn’t buy it with tickets aaaaaand obligatory mention but nothing in beta is final 
For now the snowboard is IGC tho 
WAIT They changed the feast new cape to IAP? 
Guess sky is taking more money out of me i love that cape
Why would they do that
It would be funny if the jacket/cape would cost 15 dollars, would be such a robbery
It's going to. $15 is the baseline for capes
I will pay that tbh
Not season update
Door to the seasonal room is closed now from the event room. And the light and door from outside it closed as well
Ignore me the thing not showing up is the race prop
That’ll take at least a week
2 weeks, minimum
DoFo before new season
If we get another iap feast cape I'm going to scream
Let’s test these new features before we think about the next season 
Especially after tgc added two iap capes for mischief while cancelling the one cape that wasn't
Well, i already have my opinions on the next season……….. sadly, cannot say anything about it
I would be completely honest, they probably just didn’t had any time to polish that crab cape, it was raw
There isn’t anything to buy with the extra feast currency is there? Didn’t see anything in the spell shop
Wait and see, maybe another update with more cosmetics will drop
because they were too busy pumping out iap capes probably
Money is good, you would get more money if you make wishes of many players into true
boi... are you actually supporting tgc making genuinely kinda dumb decisions?
Cough cough.. no
Oh you can't get the cape at all it seems after you've gotten the snowboard
I didn't get the cape yet but welp guess i wont get it at all ! 
at this point i don't think we will get any other cosmetics soon, best for anyone who want the cape to be IGC is feedback (and pray)
Even though, we still probably have the fur hat left, winch were available as a spell in the boat some time ago
New updates what changed. I think im legally blind
Naah the fur hats have been gone for a while. There's only 2 igc items this year...
i think it's like the blue collar ruffle thing from birthday event, it might just stay as a spell, or don't even make it to live
Cape became IAP (and colour changes)
Race prop gone
Real human noises during fireworks for some reason
Snowboard still broken and IGC
Race prop gone?? Man-
The ideas i had when it comes to live is shattered
snowboard became igc??
At least it’s gone from spirit tree and not in IAP for people who didn’t get it
that's really cool, it's the first time they are introducing something like this for free
Can only collect / activate the daily quest from Aviary home but the daily chonky candles don’t show there. Need some consistency
Probably made it a spell only prop-
We have like…. Almost no free feast capes 
One of my signature hot takes coming up soon
honestly i prefer the racing prop being igc rather than snowboard, it has more use (to me)
Only free feast cape we have is that one red one... WHICH IS OVER 100 CANDLES
I don’t get talking about the existing “collab seasons” as a major group when there’s only two of them
i hate when tgc introduces a new prop like the surfboard but it's paid, i like it now
Snowboard prop is pretty much raw and practically serves no purpose, rather than just a cute cosmetic
Like, LP and Aurora are entirely different in atmosphere, theme, cosmetics, gameplay, scope, etc.
And the new deer season is likely to be completely different as well
So I don’t see the point of having a room with just collab seasons
i think it could come bundled with the race
yeah thats what i left on my feedback, at least give us another igc cape, otherwise this event is just purely IAP at this point
with fur hat and the other boots currently not being available and idk if they'll be in live, I feel like the race prop is the only highlight here. I'm not a fan of other stuff. Snowboard is nice but I'm not buying it for money
Doot finally here for android wooo
Point of having collab room is to boost hopes of the tgc to get their collab offers accepted
what i like about that room is it's an archive room, fitting for vault, but adding extra step to accessing Starlight Desert is a bit unnecessary, i don't like it replacing the entrance to TLP too
I think you are reading too much into it, I imagine it to be a Wind Paths but for collaborations, a quick way to access them, nothing else
Beside the basic one, it's just 1 f2p vs 3 IAP T^T, 4 if the one of this year is added, on my side gonna send feedback to get this one f2p 
It's just me or I really want the devs to make the music a bit higher volume music on the firework tech, because the fireworks and the background people (which is cool) are louder than the music itself.
Speaking of music, I feel that they change music on firework tech again
But we already have wind paths for the little prince area, whats the problem to make wind path to the coliseum?
And what happened to the main entrance for TLP?
Its also just mentioned in the patchnotes that’s it’s a new area to make collab seasons more accessible, it’s not thaaat serious + it makes sense for them to be in Vault imo!
Well for starters all the clouds are under the coliseum, but also... adding too many ways to too many new areas would completely clutter up the wind paths and make it too complicated. Having a room completely dedicated to collab seasons is way more accessible, it just doesn't seem that way right now cause there's not a lot of collab seasons in it rn.
yes the music is different again
Blocked off by the global teleport
....it's not "wind paths" in the literal sense, it's just meant to be an entrance. not that deep, not to mention the actual entrance is still present in vault
i forgot coliseum also has clouds around it, but judging the place in general i don't think we can get an actual wind tunnel to there, like where exactly will dev put it, shoot us like a cannonball down to coliseum?
i don't understand what you are trying to argue, I'm so confused 
Fine, do your thing, i still do not like the that they blocked off the entrance to the little prince area
snowboard became even more hoverboard with this updoot
It's... not blocked off tho...? It's just been put somewhere else.
I'm sad the fox symbol is gone tbh
tbh it's more like "extra steps to access Starlight Desert"
But now we get goofy little prince standing mural so that's cute
I love the updated cutscenes / memories 
So the cape got axed for f2p but we have the snowboard, I'll take it
I didn't like this cape and like it even less now
The portal should just tp you to right next to rose then. No need for the cave entrance
Hello, will there be more beta waves?
To be honest, I think the idea of a collab seasonal room is a good idea even if it requires extra steps to access one thing I think it's a good way to access more seasons and moths won't be so confused as to what seasons are what.
Sure the murals might be confusing at first but they'll learn later on what they are just like the base game murals.
what memories?
The seasonal memories! Like the cutscenes on Stewards tree
Kind reminder that nothing in beta is final until it hits live 
They made more changes?
Maybe I’m misremembering but I don’t think there was music etc
Just checked. TLP area isn't blocked off at all, it is there right next to aurora
imagine if they will evict aurora from the daylight coliseum for the sake of keeping her out of canon 
I'm ok with her getting evicted out of the daylight coliseum.
gasp pere how dare you, she's a star
all for less confusing stuff being around!
are you suggesting she should be placed in eden? 
She should only show up in the night coliseum
Imagine if she gets put in a DIFFERENT version of the night-time coliseum without all the activities and stuff, and THAT'S where all the changes would take place. While the main coliseum would remain untouched from the season
You know what would be cool? If the collab area is its own area in Vault, then there should be more of them where the collab areas take place. Imagine warping to Starlight Desert from Valley of Triumph where that one door that was used for moths starting in AURORA was at. What I'm saying is, it'd be interesting if there were collab rooms in each collab area to begin with.
So a secret hidden area in Starlight Desert that leads to its own collab area that lets you teleport to other collab seasons, and we can finally use that one door that was only used for Aurora moths again.
but presumably they can't send you to the night coliseum without starting the concert so this wouldnt happen ?
she can fly us through orbit so maybe eden isn't a bad choice 
well, why would they call it orbit if it doesn't have the orb lady in it? 
Can’t find the map shrine for Aurora stadium :( just the normal stadium shrine.
Yeah i think it’s still bugged! Couldn’t find it either
huh, there was a map shrine there? 
The only thing I’ll miss is seeing the fox constellation on the Vault gate, but other than that I think this new “collab room” is very much like Sky, and very fitting too.
It’s an extra meditation circle to get to Starlight, yes, but in the grand scheme of things this is a good change 
...is there a possibility that the night coli map shrine only shows up after queendom 
No and I tested this last time wait yes maybe because I got kidnapped to night coli after Queendom sorry jaws yes it’s possible loool
How about putting the entrance to the collab room in aviary and keeping the normal starlight desert entrance
you had me in a rollercoaster there sof 
The LP cave entrance didn’t make much sense when the other two rooms that punch thru the walls down there don’t open up to Starlight Desert. Just a kinda void space
yes! at last tgc gave us something cool that is igc
I personally think it’s more fitting to Vault, but please don’t forget to leave #beta-feedback!!!
ah you can get resynced to fireworks after the staff bit perhaps
cries I literally just bought the cape 20 minutes before reset and now it's an iap? 
!concertwhen pardon me 🧹💨
The Wings of AURORA item gives the wearer and the friends they hold hands with the special ability to view the concert in one of its six time slots.
Concert times:
<t:1699178433:t> 》<t:1699192832:t> 》<t:1699207254:t> 》<t:1699221618:t> 》<t:1699236033:t> 》<t:1699250448:t>
(These timestamps are in your local time!)
Can you not just lower the sound volume?
its extra tedious and that meditation circle is annoying when you're just trying to get to starlight desert, totally unnecessary imo; inefficient for fast cr
it shouldn't be but tgc would rather draw 25 cards than make a mischief or feast cape igc
I get that! I just personally think this wasn’t made / isn’t supposed to be for fast CR
They major in making things more inefficient for cr & wl runs so this is kinda on brand…lol
this is excellent idea, way better than how tgc chose to implement it
windpath to desert ?
more than half the game is about cr at this point; if tgc doesnt want that then there outta be major changes so we wouldnt be so expectant of "fast cr"
The four free emotes for moths 😭
people get addicted to cr, but cr is a separate part of the game
even more inefficient, it constantly server splits me and my friends and its a pain to go into the portal itself
Oh no, time for a weekly “what is there to do in Sky” debate
(people candle run in the desert anyway? its so dang big)
this is an issue i think it's impossible to fix rn, without doing some major overhaul in the IGC system
which would also upset everyone because there would be people affected
Sit portals for the most part kinda suck. And now it seems like you can’t just manually sit if it’s bugged out
for the candle cake of course
I disagree with this
I think TGC has been implementing more and more changes to make the need for constant CR way less and to enjoy the game / the story / the time with friends more.
Making collab areas after 4(!) years more accessible through a seperate area is in my opinion a good thing
this was turned into an issue at the moment tgc created the current IGC system in the beggining of the game, now its kinda too late
Yeah the new race prop is 🐐
There's also the fact that the iap room will make finding shards more confusing since it's less clear that starlight is part of vault
they can survive one day without killing it on the dancefloor, they'll be fine 
definitely agree with you, TGC said themselves that the major focus of the players on CR is an issue, and they are trying to fix it, but it's a very delicate topic, since most changes could affect a lot of people
If Sky exclusively catered to the CR players, the game would become unimaginably worse
That’s a good point, I think this will make good feedback as well I agree
I do still think the reason for adding the room overrides the shard event. Besides, hermit valley is super far as well - windpaths exist! It’s just a few seconds more to starlight
not against the presence of a collab room, i think its pretty neat, its that where its placed is kind of random and makes things inefficient
as @tame pasture suggested, it should be in aviary insteadsince thats tgc intends to make it a village and all that
The collab room should just be a neat thing somewhere in aviary, like behind the waterfall
I don’t see how a collab ties to a forgotten refuge we rebuild tbh
hermit valley portal wind path is always the most bugged out of all wind path areas
Hi, where do you buy the career article now?
im not sure i see the reason of why its tied to vault specifically and not elsewhere; the collabs involve different realms
I think the current colab room placement is great
- the player has to be experienced enough to reach the vault
- but doesn't have to complete an x number of aviary quests to unlock the possiblity of accessing a whole season
i always have more trouble trying to get through prophecy cave wind tunnel more than any other areas for some reason 
Which item?
Yeah if the collab room entrance is in aviary, it's easier to justify each of the collab areas having their own entrances in different realms
Hermit valley wind path only lets you through on the fifth try. At least it used to, gotta test this build
oh, the race item 
I was like, a career item? 
This whole collab discussion has made me think
Do brand new moths (and even older players) even know if they’re a collab?
Maybe they look at Aurora and especially The Little Prince and think they’re Sky-original properties
Not as far as battlefield 
What is abyss guide doing… here 
To @/baudshaw message the only reason I knew Aurora was a Collab season was because I already heard her music before, and loved her an artist for a long while I didn’t know the little Prince was a collab season
im not sure im seeing the reason of (if the collab room is switched to aviary) why you would need to complete any of the aviary seasonal quests to get to the room
it can just be there like how the seasonal room is always open
Probably not! Maybe they’ll say in game inbox that it’s a collab
Their music got referenced, time to copystrike Aviary 
I think also most new players wouldn’t know about the aurora season unless they hung around after getting down race end, so having it there also lets players know that it exists and is a thing they can do
just like the moth I don't know where to go
I don’t think that would fit in with the story of Aviary to be honest!
We’re rebuilding a lost Village and giving past spirits a home in the refuge. There is no guide to bring home to Aviary with collabs. It’s not like we need to give the rose a home, the rose already has a home
its kind of like harmony hall imo like it having an entrance to that specific area (and therefore you dont have to go thru the hassle of flying thru dreams area)
Moths have plenty reason to go to coliseum already, it’s where there Valley spirits are (and the 4th dream quest)
They’re likely to return to the place anyways
I don’t get what’s wrong with having them find Starlight Desert and Aurora naturally
I did see someone in the qnh once that was asking "is aurora a real singer?"
SHATTERING GUIDE WHERE ARE YOU

help nothing's creepier than seeing only two napkins but hearing a whole (human??) crowd 😭
i think the room does help moth know these two have something a bit more special than original-sky season, since i met a few people who thought it is one.
Fen holding it hostage 😭
I agree with you sof it feels so- like fourth wall breaking to being collabs into aviary. It’s not only a new home it’s also a story a story of bringing spirits and guides home. Bringing something that technically breaks the fourth wall breaks that story is very odd and wouldn’t work well.
Maybe Aurora, but TLP is very much like a regular season
It used to be inside the shop in Aviary, where the Yeti spirit is. I don’t see that item available anymore
Did the race prop become an iap? 
also, I have to admit, seeing a whole collab room in what supposed to be our home, at all times, would feel like an ad 
I’m going to explode if it did hold on
I still think the TS vote was rigged so we couldn’t get a Shattering TS cause they haven’t figured all that out yet…lol… shattering is just a mess
That's like saying there's no need for the treehouse shortcuts because they don't add to the story of the areas they connect to. Not everything is about lore.
the race prop isn’t available either in the IAP shop nor igc so it’s an enigma atm
Ahhh yeah, it’s just my opinion but each of the guides teaches the player something as well. It doesn’t make sense if suddenly the rose would have a home in the aviary, or Aurora.
The Aviary is imo not made to represent the collabs
you could say that for other spirit guides; for example the harmony hall performance guide already has a home, why would we need to give him a home in aviary?
besides, i think the concept of aviary can be branched out than just "giving guide spirits a home" so it can give that true village feel
I think so, but I can't find it anywhere to buy it 🥺.
I think that’s a bit different and even story wise it makes sense for the spirits to find fast ways through an acid rain forest 
sof, they’re dead
acid rain means nothing to them 😂
I don’t know why anybody wants to see aurora in another place she’s already living in the coliseum full time (and my head rent free) she doesn’t need to come to aviary unless they do another encore or something
i think we're just advocating that the collab room be in aviary instead of vault; there is no reason for the rose or the aurora guide to be placed in aviary
like you said, it doesnt make sense if the rose/aurora suddenly had a home in aviary
It’s not only giving them a home but also teaching something to the player. Harmony hall addition teaches about using instruments, and props I suppose too and the theater etc
it’s for newer players to learn what and how to use instruments
This season is all about teaching new players
as someone who actually did not understand anything about the instruments before I did any of the performance quest, the quest help me learn about them and we’re in general fun
my friend downloaded the game after the game awards last years and she ended up thinking that the whole game was about the concerts (which she still loved btw)
Besides, is she gonna visit in her creepy frozen blue figure or creepy doll with button eyes 
collab room makes sense in vault because it’s the vault of archives, the place is made for storing past memories and collab seasons fall under that imo, it’s out of the way that they’re not overwhelming for new players, but easy enough to reach and navigate now that they have a specific room
Maybe not rose, but it would be immensely funny to somehow give the Void of Shattering a personality
And Aurora was there in concept art of Aviary
and as such it makes way more sense to want to show new players the sky seasons first and not the collab ones lol cuz that skews players view of the world a bit
oh that's the sound of other spirits watching the firework lol, you just can't see them
In any case, I do agree on the shard thing. That would make it a little bit more hard to figure out! I still think it’s not random that Vault was chosen, but I understand why people would be a little annoyed having that short starlight distance thing taken away
if we’re bringing anybody to aviary pls let it be the prince I have questions for him like why did you go into Eden like it was just gonna be a walk in the park and why didn’t you say goodbye

Skykids don’t make human sounds 
Meanwhile, the moths who literally started in the Aurora concert: 
big disagree tlp can stay 6ft away from me 😭
Can we just bring Shattering guide to Aviary. Just have it float ominously
THAT i can get behind, bring the aviary shards
SORRY FOR PING LMAO
collabs being acknowledged as non-canon like that makes me think that all of these stories were made up by skids' vivid imagination and playing pretend, and it sounds so cute to me for some reason 
the ominous piece of Eden in the village 😭
It can hang out with the rose
Or give it a redemption arc 
aurora lore isn’t real, the wasteland war was made up!!!
woo the gates are off during fireworks
wait a dev said that the collabs are non canon?
oh oh so my theory is
they’re reworking the original intended idea for how vault seasons work because otherwise starlight was literally like a crack in the wall going into the desert but then it didn’t make sense because of the repository being a sea of stars in nothingness
so worldbuilding-wise it makes more sense to be transported away to starlight desert as opposed to running through a tunnel to get there because like others said, vault is an archive so it makes sense for it to work that way
That’s adorable but I like the challenge of incorporating those seasons into the lore 
What if the works of Sky had 3D movies that you can go inside 
so all the lore regarding aurora is non canon?
THE LITTLE PRINCE ISN'T CANON????
MOMMA AURORA ISN'T CANON???? WHAT????
look let's not act like spirits didnt trauma dump on skids at least once, okay? rem is literally next door
I think Aurora is canon because she’s literally the megabird
aurora is the vtuber persona of the megabird
My argument against collab room in Aviary is that it's a homespace, i don't see a point in planting an archive building there,
But. we have only seen the room made specifically to fit vault aesthetics, maybe there could be a way to worm it into Aviary without sticking out like a sore thumb. 
regarding my pings, guys, how was tlp canon to begin with, like come on 
Not everything has to be in homespace, windpaths isn’t
No, Aurora is, TLP is more messy
Trust me, we folks at #lore-discussion-spoilers have spent more than enough time discussing each 
I mean she could be the megabirb, but the form we see in a concert isn't.
But most likely not
okay the lore historian has spoken, I still think we should dismiss the french alien child
brooooo they made the collab tunnel SPARKLY
I think Aurora is canon because she was in the game to begin with
shards, you keep me crawling on my knees 
Is kizuna ai canon?
tbh idk what the argument is cuz the tunnel is a short walk away from vault entrance anyway and it’s so pretty to walk through
since we can speak about the next season now, with that being a collab and if there's a new seasonal area being other than vault and valley, wouldnt they have to add a third circle?
Aviary is quite large, why not have a “hidden” spot that leads to the collab areas
I also don't understand, I'm just baffled that this discussion is taking place at all
:O is the race prop still available?
helpp the crowd cheering during the firework show 😭 i see like 5 people
it’s still in the closet and useable but not available in either shop atm
like not in IAP nor in the npc tree for EC
I love the tunnel but what I hate is the entrance to starlight in general- it’s a long tunnel ok and a long way to fly 
we're discussing for the efficiency of simply walking thru the tunnel to cr in starlight or get the shards instead of now being placed in a room and THEN having to meditate to even get to starlight
But they’re “technically” a spirit! Nothing ever makes sense
I'd say the tlp in his spirit form is canon, maybe not in his human copyrighted form
i couldn’t see it anywhere although it couuuld be iap? it does have the style music added so i doubt it’s scrapped but
Interesting.. I doubt they'd be tossing it out with all the additions and changes
It’s still efficient! Besides the entrance to starlight was always a bit of a long walk or fly- at least to me anyways
Besides, there’s still always the wind path entrance
I mean
“collab area” has so many “windows” for murals. You don’t have to speculate it will be so much easier to organise them this way
I think there’s no reason for a room that connects two seasons that have absolutely nothing to do with each other
y’all cr in starlight? I’ll dip in to grab the cake or wl via windpaths but that’s it 
I use starlight desert to get my capeless alt to wind paths easier (the forest entrance is a nightmare imo), and occasional shards
The seasons do have things in common tho? They are both collaboration seasons and both also break away from the original storyline of sky
Yes!! This isn’t only just a game function it’s also a story!
As much as i love aurora’s season
I still look at it as any othr collab mostly 
they arent connecting the two seasons
wdym you can’t reach windpaths entrance in forest social space whilst capeless 
hmm that's a cool idea actually, i was thinking we could move the collab room to one of the giant cubes in Archives, although it's a bit claustrophobic
I can, actually, but it's a huge pain 😭
effieicny i look at two things: the time you take to do something and the quality you to something
in this case the former applies and it definitely takes longe to get to starlight thru collab room (thus making it inefficient for cr, even if youre just grabbing the cake)
My interpretation is:
Sky kid has read the TLP book, or heard of it from sneezing geographer.
And the spirit version of TLP (the canon one in this case) met the sky kid, and the sky kid imagined them as the human form, it's only at the Eden quest they see him as a spirit.
Why do they see him as human till Eden quest? Cuz they think he's not dead! And the sky kid finally does see him as a spirit because they see him die in Eden.
It’s still efficient just a bit different a couple seconds to sit and be transported isn’t going to really change much
...giant cubes? you mean the area behind where it takes two people to unlock?
Because moths won’t be able to see these seasons unless they go through some locations anyway
I don’t remember if old seasons require eden
Aurora follows the original storyline of Sky to a tee? They reference other seasons??
And they’re different in almost every other way
pls guys the new room is literally an archive that houses the only two collab seasons we have so far, utilising the entrance we had originally for tlp makes sense, people will go there to access starlight and they’ll be like oh neat now I just med there and ooh easy access to coliseum for aurora too
it doesn’t have to be a big thing, it’s really not adding that much extra time onto your crs 😭
and it adds so much more room and opportunity for future collabs which is also fun
dancing around a shooting star, and every beancell remembers what have taken us this far 
This room in general represents the future of collaborations and tgc won’t have to struggle finding a place to put seasonal maps and this also give easy access to collaboration maps just like how the map of flight gave access to non collaboration seasons
They don't, they require base game spirits
Anyways I gotta go do things bye beta chat!! I’ll be back 
The only ones that don’t are maybe Abyss, maybe Enchantment and maybe Prophecy
All the others can be accessed, including TLP and Aurora
If you wanna talk inefficient then the distance travelled from one end of aviary to the other takes way longer to grab dailies than homespace rn because the heckin dailies button is still missing 
Aurora in fact does break away from the original storyline by adding more story with big lore hints which are not present anywhere else in the game
That actually would be pretty cool
we are still allowed to dislike the placement of this collab room or for any reason aka some of us dislike tgc's decisions
screw it, put the collab room into the remembrance place
not only will it make you walk a few more steps everyday (good workout!), but also the rem guide will finally get to feel important 
It’s lore-testing-discussion time, but keep in mind adding story does not mean breaking away from the story
Nothing in Aurora contradicts anything
tbh if people want efficiency in terms of cutting down jumping into vault, running into the tunnel, and medding for starlight then homespace is your friend you don’t have to go miles for the portals 
I love the repository tbh, it's such a good solemn environment
Also good music
Uh guys, I play with a controller on beta and I've noticed a potentially annoying bug for controllers now. I'm not sure whether to report it because I can't show that I'm tapping the button and my Sky kid just flies when I keep rapidly pressing the button to jump, I'm not holding the button to fly, so that may be a problem. Report it anyways?
i dont think we're saying take away the entrance to starlight desert if you're going to put the collab in aviary
just like how harmony hall is still available thru dreams, im advocating for the same thing
nobody said you couldn’t I just don’t understand the frustration it adds a handful of seconds loading time and it’s cute 
This tbh
Aurora contradicts nothing, nor does TLP
Nor do the majority of the seasons (to my knowledge)
Atm the way I think Sky is going lore wise is multiple contained stories, but taht's a debate for another day 
gonna jump in and say i was a remembrance moff and its still one of my fav seasons
note that to get to the giant cubes, you need 2 people and it will be even MORE efficient and i can see people not even bothering to get there simply for the fact it requires 2 people to get to
Remembrance spirit memories did not have to go that hard 😭
They're my absolute favourites of all the seasons so far, the impact is just incredible
I know she doesn’t contradict the main story but she doesn’t just follow the storyline. Story was added to the main story in a way that no other season had
steward, opening the collab room at the aviary:
"and now, a word from our sponsors!"
your inability to understand my opnion is the reason of my bring it up and hoping other people might agree with me (and more people send beta feedback)
Yeah report it anyways you don’t always need to provide video evidence if you can describe the issue, if they need any extra info they’ll reach out to you
I know right 😭 + the music it just hit too hard, i love all of those spirits they deserve the world 
"Brought to you by Raid Shadow Legends-"
Okay, thanks. I captured a video of it anyways.
Aurora just gave a new perspective on the story that already existed, which was hinted at.
Grassy isle was already there in the switch trailer, there are remains of the war, we know Ancestors captured mantas, etc.
Aurora just put it all together
In term of location i'm still think it being the best place. But efficiency? Absolutely not 
besides it requiring 2 people to get to, please describe how putting the collab room there would be the best decision. not understanding what youre getting at
You know what doesn’t fit Sky lore, Aurora having an actual human voice and singing with it
Exactly 
She's the only actual speaking voice in sky right
tbh I still want a hollowknight crossover to release, ONLY if it's before silksong. Just because how afunny that'd be 
Was the aurora (phenomenon not the person) always in Home? Why am I only noticing it for the first time today?
i've never been exactly happy with human clapping and woo-ing in the crowds myself
do people know you can reach harmony hall by hopping through the window in the house that's being constructed? in aviary :0
edit: ok ty :D
There was also never a story told through an entire concert in sky
the only humanoid cheering I want is from narci, the rest needs to go
yeah I can't believe aurora didnt bother learning the honk language, kinda disrespectful tbh 🙄
bubba
Then take it up with Orbit 
tak 🐟
maybe the fish are babel fish and she just understands it
Honk hOnk honk honk honkhonk honk honk Honk honk
it wasn't that noticable during aurora because it's usually drowned out by the honking
but the cheering and clapping sound really weird during the firework festival (especially when I only see 5 other napkins)
those are as close to honks as we are getting from her, but she wasn’t singing actual words
Idk how I would feel about narci having a human voice 
good grief, dont bring her mother into this!
XD
I feel like you worded things improperly, it sounded like you were saying Aurora contradicted the main lore rather than 'innovating' storytelling
The feeling I get is more like we're in a park enjoying festivities by the way the sounds feel
But then we go straight into wii sports bowling when you chuck the ball backwards like AAAAAA
anyways though, lore aside, how yall actually feel about the changes this update has brought 
Well, Archives is massive, there are buildings / cubes floating around we don't have anyway to get inside. Perfect opportunity to add the collab room in there imo. The level is called Archives too so what are the chances lol? 
How about we put the collab room behind a shard?
Shard as in shattering shard?? 😭
put it in a shard, put it in the Eden diamond
The fireworks show is soooo much better (if we ignore the human voices). The detailing in the fireworks is so cute, the added pillows 10/10, best view, also the figurines in the fireworks show 10/10.
However rhythm being fired from celebration 0/10
I'm just glad yeti boots reverted to previous horn placement on boots cuz it looked way too weird
I would like to publicly apologize for my feedback letter about feast, I was angry, I still am, it will probably happen again the next update
Wait I just saw this
yeah!!!!!! This!
Only one other place in the game with human voices and it was vaults office door XD
...I feel dumb, it's been there for awhile and I know this. Clearly I haven't been playing as much as I should be. 
Is there still a way for getting postman's cape now? I don't see them in iap
I really like archive room but how about we get an aviary building with quick access to it featuring rememberance guide
can’t believe rhythm keeps getting mistreated, justice for the owl
is it just me or is the end of the firework show kinda awkward?? maybe I missed something but in the end the guides were all just standing there while the epic music continued playing
Rhythm guide deserved it 😭
It literally takes less than a minute to get to them
yeah horns on the front was just weird, I’m glad they changed back
rhythm's fired from the show bc the salon wasn't getting as many customers without them
Map will be available in less than a minute
I know it just would be cool to have its house in aviary
they’re waiting for you to perform Karik, didn’t you get the memo about your big closing number?
Tbh that wouldn’t really make sense at all because it’s a repository. You can’t go from a celebratory area to a place where war refugees fled 😭
yeah it's still end up being kind of stiff, should have let all the guides get back to their homes after the show end
Also they're refugees that fled
love the idea, but there's literally nothing to do after the storyline is over
a vault floor 4 shortcut, on the other hand...
remembrance guide taking a short break from rebuilding the lives of those hiding in refuge to be the opening act for aurora!
Karik performance: hold hands with as many guides and manage to lose them in 1 second
Yeaa give rememberance guide a home in aviary 🤣
Im still cackling over Karik managing to lose steward at least 3 times 😭 even on the first day
you won't believe who lost steward in live the other day 🧍
they just stopped holding my hand :(
How did all the kids in season of assembly just up and die
like were they all playing in the treehouse then boom explosion?
Other guides who aren't in aviary either:
- gratitude
- prophecy
- sanctuary
- assembly
- belonging
- shattering
So I think it's fine they're not all there tbh
shattering fans never seeing the abomination room ever again we are coping out here
^?
they would never abandon their spirit family 
My girl the rose forgotten again 😔
ngl with abyss being my favourite season I'm happy that abyss guide's in the show
I don't count either of the Collab season guides since aviary is more about the main sky seasons
she withered away
Meanwhile still no sign of brown boots and white fluffy hat 😔
I think it was more of a "if your friends jumped off something, would you" situation
Yeaa we'll have many more guides in future so not all will fit
Also, no gratitude or lightseekers
Vossy come back somehow please
aviary doesn’t need to be home to literally everyone though, some guides have perfectly decent homes (stares directly at performance who will never leave their poor sibling to have any limelight whatsoever)
That's why their wig keeps rising off their scalp to get their baldness to reflect more light
😭
feast 2024, please make shattering guide the aviary's christmas tree topper
I keep miss spelling how and getting my messages deleted lol (Also didn't mean to ping you cy, ack sorry
)
they just have a big head one day they won’t fit through the door
Wait, the colab room is behind a two person door now?
It's still cool to be a home for most of them doing useful functions according to their back stories
omg that's be perfect and hilarious
I think these two already have to prepare events a lot so no need permanent home when you're off with your crew all the time 
lightseekers guide was evicted from last year's boom tho
remember when we got lightseekers guide in bloom testing and they got fired pretty swiftly, give them a home
no it's just my suggestion, it still behind TLP entrance
It's for hayfever crimes
offseason guide has been homeless for ages
he has a boat he’s good
Oh, that's good. Those can be so frustrating 😞
He's gonna get less customers after Aviary
the way they got him camping outside enchant’s spell shop like a spare part 
aren't they two different spirits
what about the times between seasons when there was a boat at home
also idk whether I should be happy to see some abyss rep at aviary now, or be sad for the months who might have to endure the eldritch horrors soon
That's sleepy merchant isn't it
someone stole his boat
So the quests will still be just completing past quest trees?
Ah! Sweet man made horrors beyond my comprehension!
so off-season guide is still homeless, and it's sleepy merchant that got a home in aviary 
legally those are clones and I’m sure I’ve seen a dev acknowledge they’re the same but I could be lying
bubba those are called "twins"
Same thing 
listen, semantics
Can't believe Rythym and Performance are clones
clones 😭
but yeah abyss rep, cuz it's one of the most easily missed seasons bc of the vague entry point
Where's the boat to abyss?
So why didn’t we have to complete quests for the owl man? Was it just like a choice or did they not wanna bring the quests back?
doesn't season of rhythm have no quests?
Only Enchantment onwards has quests
Rhythm doesn’t have quests iirc, also it’s the first quest in the season, and why would you make moths go and complete quests when they don’t even have access to Isle? 
rhythm has a big bird
@agile hazel as was helpfully explained in #beta-announcements , that ship has sailed... to the Golden Wasteland social-space
it moved there so it would be easier to find 😉
fen
JAWS WAS FIRST DANG
HAHA BEAT YOU TO IT
Ayo they moved the boat?
we need hairstylist so him~~ and his bf~~ are the best choices
It was moved two years ago bubba
Not the cape being moved to be an iap...😔
Is it the boat next to the GW sapling?
tak
@rancid sleet as was helpfully explained in #beta-announcements, that ship has sailed... to the Golden Wasteland social-space
it moved there so it would be easier to find 😉
[Jump to message](#beta-discussion message)
Nope it's immediately to the right side of the gw social space
Beta lore failing me
bubba got to bed
It was also a necessary bot reply at the time because no one ever knew where the boat moved to
Skybot truly being helpful 
They should make an announcement for that or something
I'm sure they did but people don't read the update notes sometimes
AS WAS HELPFULLY EXPLAINED IN #beta-announcements... 
People really don’t like reading the patch notes lol then they get all confused as to what happening like five minutes later
Which is valid cuz it's a big textwall
But also when people's questions are literally answered in the notes
I hope I'm delusional and that the cape is still igc not an iap
Omg I love reading the patchnotes, the longer the text the better
genuinely
even the little easter egg notes at the end
how does the Abyss guide appear in Aviary? just during the fireworks finale?
waiting for the patch notes, btw, because I'm not sure the heck is going on 
But sof what about the Bug Fixes & Improvements™️ 
ok NOW we need justice for gratitude's guide 
they have two whole events to themself, what more do they need
Time for a surprise Beta reading comprehension test
a home 
all Guides without seasonal areas should have a home/shop in Aviary
Lightseekers Guide can sell props
Grandma could run that restaurant we saw in early builds
Gratitude can idk be there 😭
Honestly patch notes are fun and super helpful to read, but when big stuff happens it's easy enough to get overwhelmed and forget or misread things, it happens
Discord really just given up with replying to messages now 😭
I wish we had our own small building that we could decorate or smth. 
omg I just noticed.. sparrow and moth mannequins aren't spinning in sync, and spinning in opposite directions 
@kind summit I know. U already bought this cape before. It's not there for you anymore. That's beta...
the thing is I didn't buy postman's cape, but it sucks that it can be like that sometimes 😔
When New season and travel spirit come in Sky Beta?
!wafo
🧇 Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta or Live
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements, and Live announcements will be made in #news!
U forgot Remembrance Guide tho. 
who didn't forget Rememberence

Does anyone know where the shrine is for the place beside the Little Prince/Rose area on the map? 🤧
Skybot, THIS IS SO SAD! 
Skybot, play All is Soft Inside 7
still not available
Ah! Thanks, it must be a new area then for the upcoming season. I got a little confused roaming about.
did the new feast cape got removed from tree? or was it moved elsewhere
it is an IAP now
where would i get it then :0 ?
it should be inside the IAP shop on the sign with a gift icon
You can't get it anymore i believe, it's gone for me as well and i never got it ! I got the snowboard which switched places with the cape (if you got snowboard that is, if you got neither, i think you can still get them)
gotcha, thank you both!
Why did the cover become an iap?!
why.why,why???
Don't there already be 3 covers?!
Who wants to know about a miserable snowboard??
and where is the racing game??
Why put all the legal items in the paid ones??
and just leave the waste to be igc??
Aren't they already going to make a lot of money next collab season?!
and past items paid???
May I ask where you guys are getting the quilt coat? I know it’s an IAP now, but I checked all the shops and I didn’t see it in any of them
(just repeating what I said earlier on the other channel)
Just a guess, but shoes and props probably don't sell as much as capes and outfits lol
Maybe the Surfboard was an IAP as a test and they realized cosmetics is where the money's at...
But you can always send feedback about it, they can still change it 
Did you get the snowboard IAP before? If so, I believe atm it's unavailable :( I can't get it as well
as always they only think about money, mercenary company
I know a lot of people seem to be disappointed with the IGC item switch, but honestly I love the snowboard being a free item. It adds a lot of fun you can have with your friends whereas a cape is honestly something you'd wear for a week and likely forget about. I hope they do something similar and make the race prop a free item in the future. Seeing everyones creativity and finding these cool races throughout the realms has been really fun and this is just for a small portion of skykids. In the live version it would really be double the fun 
I know the Surfboard was an IAP, maybe they thought having more than one that was paid would be a little too much
I also prefer the Snowboard as IGC, I'm not gonna use both of the items but it's a fun prop 😭
(I'm still missing the fuzzy white hat)
Yeah the fuzzy hat was so good 😭
Wait fuzzy hat got removed??? Thays so sad i was so excited for it same for the cute lil boots
skateboards are useless, better a cover
It probably just didn't fit the vibe and all of the ideas they had for this event. It could always come next year 😭
I definitely get the idea of making snowboard accessible for everyone with EC but in a way it kind of saddens me how the only Feast cape that isn't an IAP is the red one ! It would be nice to have something more for IGC as the other stuff from previous years has been IAP as far as I know 
Yeah it would certainly be nice to have more clothes but for me the OG feast cape wins out of every one introduced
It's so minimal but perfect
Yes!
There are already 3 paid covers and only 1 IGC
Days of Feast 2024 should introduce the first Feast Outfit, something Elf inspired to match the brown boots that were also booted from this version 
Elf fit would be so cute
I loved those brown boots so much haha ! I hope they aren't going to be scrapped for good and instead - come next year
I still have a little bit of hope that one of those two items (maybe both 😭 ) could still come to the live version, just like what happened with the Crabula Mask
And maybe a surprise cosmetic as well
The crabula mask definitely surprised everyone 
Elf Hair needs an outfit, honestly. (Link hair if you're confused what I'm referring to.)
how do you guys feel about the shared memories autoplaying when you enter aviary ?
Imagine Zelda also /jk
Hello so i wanted to ask if i should buy tickets to get the snowboard and pine hairpin (i only have 23 tickets) and like 100 candles
Sometimes it’s nice, sometimes it’s a little in the way. I appreciate that the camera doesn’t automatically swivel to it anymore, though
I’ve noticed that it has a proximity thing now, but I just wish the game would “save” my choice when i press “stop”
That really depends on you! There are spells to test out the items if you want to give feedback on them, but if you don’t have enough tickets there’s no need to buy them just for the items 
i keep getting jumped by big walls of text which is a bit weird
Re @neat maple :
YES! YES! 
Head to feedback! 
Personal take on IGC and IAP for Days of Feast (will make feedback, but saw some people commenting about it since today and wanted take part of the discussion, sorry long text)
I think it could be great that they bring the fuzzy hat and put them in a bundle together with the yeti boots and make that bundle IAP and bring back the cape as IGC (working on making feedback about that). I like the fact of having a board for us IGC players, seems like a funny prop and indeed I think the intentions to make it IGC because already have the surfboard as IAP during Days of Summer (or however was it's name), but it makes since 2020 that have no IGC Days of Feast cape and every year releasing IAP capes (just as Days of Mischief), so could be cool for moths, players who can't afford IAP and other casual players to get a cape ticket based, as basic one costs 65 candles and probably moths could't reach to save enough, but yes getting tickets that they can find around Aviary, as if I don't mind, Sky will be released for PC before the year ends, so means will have plenty of new players who will start at Aviary. Plus, the yeti boots, even if pretty, so far they don't fit with any pants at all, and if I don't mind there was also brown boots going around in beta, so could do something with it as well.
I hope no one takes this opinion badly, I don't talk much here but I like to read u! Feel free do agree or disagree and making feedback on your own povs! Thanks for reading 
Abyss - Necklace maker
??? - Boots Maker
Predicting Assembly / Remembrance - Props maker
I hope in the future we will be able to wear furry boots over yeti pants such a vibe 
Dang I was hoping for a new IGC cape for DoF. 😔
Hot cocoa table and candy cane firework stick would be cool hehe
If only they would fix the brown beads from the abyss ult cape back to the turquoise they were 😭😭😭
lemme check
When do they plan on putting grandma's spot in Aviary too instead of home?
Snowboard free = monkey happy (me) 
still rusty
I hope she stays in home. I don't want there to be nothing at home. For people who don't want to go to aviary for everything we need something cozy and quiet. I'm annoyed that the home doesn't have dailies from the shrine STILL 😭 Let the introverts be introverted 🙏 pleeeeease
I mean, I want her at aviary too and not just home
I understand introverts being one myself, I just wanna be with a new area too spawn in for a refreshment
oh yeah that makes more sense!
very disappointed that they decided to cut the black fluffy boots and fluffy hat entirely. those were my favorites for this days of and now im just getting the snowboard since theres nothing else that actually appeals to me
I also hope there's gonna be a fix to be able to go between home and aviary so people can change their spawns easily without having to go to Vaults end and have to use that to get back to home and also hope dailies will be fixed in home, so annoying having to go to aviary to unlock them 
I prefer the coat as IGC than the snowboard 😕
I think they're iap because now it kind of matches the yeti boots so maybe like a set?
And the snowboard is the same pattern as yeti pants belt thingy
I don’t see the new cape in my shop. (I didn’t get it for event currency)
Is this another case of “you can’t get X because you already got Y in an earlier built” aka: beta being beta..?
I don't see it in my shop anywhere either
Don’t skip my message pls
WAFO
There is no invites open for beta rn
There is no code right now, they send out beta invites as an when needed
When does the new season begin?
@fervent badger, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
you need to react in the faq thread to get notified when the invites go out
when i feel like it
i REALLY wish they kept the cute little brown boots...i think it was rly nice to have a igc showear for the winter since i knew from the start the yeti boots where gonna be IAP....i hope they reconsider and add the boots back same with the hat
Wonder where them doot notes are 
Wait, there was a doot? 
Oh wait there was a doot? I was wondering why chat was so alive today 
I got my sky to work on the computer
Yup! We got a sneaky doot 
that's a really well thought take! I agree that the fuzzy hat (and the brown boots) should be brought back now that we have only two igc, so I'm hoping the brown boots would return in the igc tree
I'm already happy that the snowboard is an igc now, it would be a fun addition.
One day we'll get an igc feast/mischief cape that'd be dope
The puffer jacket doesn't appear in my shop 😔
Another opportunity of a igc cape take it away 
I don’t think it is, I didn’t have the cape before and I still can’t see it in the shop :p
BETA UPDATE
doot doot
DOOT 
idk whose time zone is at 4:00 am right now but if that's your time zone, then I timed the beta-updates post just for you 
Doot notes!! Hi sago o/
doot!
Those are the notes for the doot we just got earlier right? It says they polished the race prop but not whether they decided to make it IAP or moved it somewhere else to obtain or just oopsied it out of postman's tree. ^_^;
Doot notes, my beloved
I believe moving it out of the postman's tree is intentional 👍
(no bug reports needed, in other words)
Is the prop not obtainable elsewhere?
But then where is it?
Because it's not available as IAP
Oh wow that’s not just Bug Fixes and Improvements
DOOT NOTEEE
I think it's supposed to be elsewhere in the shop
Le doot
We need a doot emoji frfr
When does a new season usually start after a season ends in Beta?
Well okay it's random
@heady monolith, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
do you have to win a bunch of yeti races to get it?
no you gotta get sneezed on by yeti /j
I can't find it in shop menu at home or in the area where the event items are. Or where present that you can open shop is 
when i feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel like it
“No more getting impaled by snowboard when standing still” but what if I wanted to be 😔
Yeah I looked everywhere as well, prop is nowhere to be seen
Maybe try using the 🤸 stance
that works with making a skidkebab using fireworks staff 
Sagomay, pls, help us locate the race prop 
dof flopped
i found the race as a spell at the boat in home space for 1 candle i believe
its the WIP spell
Is it not in our closets? I haven’t checked actually
Better than dom at least
yes its in the closet it looks like a racing flag
nuh uh, snowboard for igc
made the cape uglier and got rid of the brown boots and hat🙁im in shock
If you had the race prop before this update though you still have it now, right? You just don't see it at all in the event shop in Aviary?
It is if you got it for EC
But if tou didn't- no permanent prop in spirit tree or IAP
I do wonder, is the snowboard faster than simply sliding?
they only have 2 things each for me
The prop should have been moved to its own spot in the shop, not in a Spirit tree 🤔
i can only assume it would be at the present in the middle
Basically, it unobtainable 
Maybe Yeti took it on vacation 
the present in the middle shows the skyball prop hermit cape, and i assume thats where the racing prop would be too? (if i didnt claim it)
I’ll log in with a throwaway account and report it as a bug if I can’t find it 
Which shop are they talking about, the in menu shop or the event shop in aviary
the event shop i assume
I never claimed the prop and it's not there either ! Completely empty
Not sure if it means it becomes an iap or stays igc
Guys hi, is it only me who can't join my friend in beta?
I'd rage quit but I'm loosing it and kinda on a verge of doing something bad 🙂
what if... snowboards with different designs... the simple way would be to do them as different cosmetics like the towel capes but what if u could get sticker sets or something
make sure your game is updated that might be preventing you from joining them
have yall tried turing it off and on again
quick question where did the winter courier's cape go (i cant find it)
Ated
I updated lately but now I see a newer update
i believe there was a stealth update earlier today!
I feel this server has a censor and it's bloking normal words 🤔
Update: couldn’t find it indeed, nowhere to be seen. Bug reported!
snowboard went snowboarding, probably with sneezing yeti
I just noticed but Postman is now named “Winter Courier” instead of “👹ticket redemption”, idk, doesn’t have the same feel to it

oh i love that name
Ticket redemption? Same, cute cat name
LOL I MEANT WINTER COURIER
I was going to help to check the prop but forgot I haven't oomfs myself in Eden 
putting in feedback rn /j
Btw the cape is in the IAP shop (the regular one, or if you click the button on the left stand thingy next to yeti in the feast shop)
I never bought it and yet also don’t see it in any of the shops
Oh my god they actually made the cape iap
Can I ask a off-ping question? How did Abyss Guide get here in Fireworks Festival from Treasure Reef to Aviary? 

Probably the old-fashioned way
/tp aviary
by boat i assume
deep sea vent transport system
hitched a ride on big bertha
I'm lobbying for bioluminescent deep sea vent tube worm light creatures 🙂
There’s mantas in abyss so they could have very possibly hitched a ride
they crossed their arms and wiggled their nose and poofed into the aviary
But the Mantas from Abyss aren't fully grown like large Prairie Mantas tho. 
Someone help what is DoM my brain isn't working
OH MUSIC??
Oh no is it music or mischief 
days of music?
or mischief
this is why we shouldnt abbv the events 
My strategy: DoMischief or DoMusic 
DoMi or DoMu 
days of crab? or days of Noise ?
Do Re Mi 🎶
(I gave up not writing out the event name when I started to have to keep track of Days of Fortune in beta while Days of Feast was happening in live
And even then idk how many times my brain says one but my mouth says the other 
Days of snow and days of DRAGON DANCE

theyre both DoF too 
waiting on the crossover: days of noisy crabs
That'll be released on April 1st
Days of fortune is the best event..... It's so good


plzzz
Is there any news about the next season?
🧇
Woe! WAFO Waffle be upon ye!
Abyss guide has the stealthy ninja vibes so they definitely had sneaked their way to aviary without our knowledge heh
What if they followed the [Insert Passage Mask] to sneak in?
hmmm then how did the mask end up in abyss area for them to follow xD
Quick question, anyone else unable to find the cape that the winter courier is wearing? It was available for 41 tickets iirc but now it's not in any shop
isn't it supposed to be in an iap shop but might be bugged in some devices
Dof
Dol
Dob
Don
Doc
Dom
SA
Dos
Dom
Dof
I seriously don't think I will ever get over the ski jacket cape becoming iap
Dang, guess I'll have to wait until live to get it 
Domi and Domu
will never leave my mind now
Dofe and Dofo for the other two? 😭
(whats SA)
Like there were already so many iap-able cosmetics in the initial update and tgc got rid of all of them so they could make the one thing I was excited for a paid item
fun fact, the american ornithologists union 4 letter code for a downy woodpecker is DOWO, which is fun to say.
Normal doot
Ayo did the day to night cycling in aviary go to live?
Player Creations
"Tweaks the the menu"
When will the next update 0.24.0 be released?
question to those who didn't manage to get the latest winter cape yet! (the one that was previously for IGC)
Where can I find it now? It's not showing in shop either hmm
Despite updating it seems like it's vanished for some.
No one knows! Soon™️, it can be a week, two weeks. A month, two months, no one knows 
Have a wafo in the meantime 🧇
Those who got the snowboard all seem to be unable to get the cape since snowboard and cape switched places :d we have to wait and see if next update we can get it, otherwise its just beta being beta and we missed out on the cape 
Is the puffer cape really an IAP now? 😭😭😭
i had to go back to the previous build to buy it with tickets, im wondering if it’s because i bought the snowboard as an iap and they switched places
Is the snowboard IAP now? Or is it remaining a free seasonal item
snowboard is IGC now, it switched with cape
it’s an event item for tickets now
Ahh that makes sense. Booourns.
ahhh naur ;^; I wasn't able to get the cape cos I didn't have enough tickets, but I got the snowboard, that explains a lot! Thank you so much Kaitlyn 
wait how do you go back a previous build 👀
Wheres the cape?????
also for those who can see the snowboard, do you know how many tickets it costs? thank you so much!! 
I cant find the cape in shop is this bug?
its 44 tickets

The return shrine in Aviary Village works now yay 
Also maaaaaan this feels like a repeat of Days of Mischief where the crabula cape vanished from our closets forever
Is there any update on the Black Santa Boots? I saw in a video someone wore them to show them off (think it was Noob Mode) but none of Nasty Mold's vids have shown it. Sooo just wondering O.o
Aw man so season doot yet
Imma wait 
Doooot
you guys think that there's a new collab season coming or what? since it doesn't look like a typical seasonal emblem. the deer symbol that was teased, I mean
I always get so surprised when they tease a new season while the current one is still ongoing, lol
Seasons in beta are (mostly) tested around Quest4/5 in live
Has it always been a thing to be able to open/close Office doors on mobile by standing close to them and using your finger to slide them?
Oooh, that worked out for me. Thank you for mentioning it! 
is this an oob or is it a new location? where can i find it?
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Portal in office
Is there just only 4 tickets in the aviary area?
Starlight desert! In the jellyfish cove
hello, how do I get the beta version?
All you need to know is in #beta-faq
You have to wait for the next iOS or android invite wave
thank you
On what quest will the new intro come?
It’s a wafo for now we don’t know
Y’all don’t forget to get the free spells in the office
There has been no mention of the quest which gives the new intro sequence. But I think in the next patch the new intro will be coming coz updates to intro have been done during testing of 0.23.5 patch (according to #beta-announcements patch notes). But I may be wrong about this also. 
!omgomgwhen
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
hey guys i saw a video with a sky kid wearing a flying scarf like those chinese gods in fantasy shows?
We don’t know any thing about that as it has not been released in official beta yet.
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Sorry for the long text, but let me share my thoughts on the fireworks finale.
(I sent a longer text to the feedback channel.)
The atmosphere of the place and background music changed from a Disney theme park fireworks event to Bilbo Baggins' birthday party from the Lord of the Rings movie.
I was reminded of the scene where Gandalf the Grey shoots off magical fireworks.
The background music was less flashy, the instruments used changed, and the tune was really wonderful as we reflected on the journey of the skykids, the seasonal events that had passed, and the peaceful celebration of the return of the Aviary village with everyone.
Listening to that BGM made me glad I kept playing Sky.
Where'd the DoF Cape Go?
ping me please to lemme know

The Cape appears to have become an IAP. But only if you have not yet purchased any other item it will be listed in the store. I could not get it even by having a friend send it to me as a gift.
The next Traveling Spirit is scheduled to arrive on <t:1700726416:F> (<t:1700726416:R>) 
You can learn more about Traveling Spirits here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits
Is anything known about the Brown Boots that could be bought in Form of a spell? Did they merge them into the Yeti Boots Like they did with the crab Cape?
at this stage safe to assume it just didn’t make the final cut of items for the event
but don’t know though, can still feedback that you’d like to see it
Very sad to see the hat and brown boots go 
oh wow, that sudden no snow in aviary
Yep, feast testing is supposed to be over now I think 
Yeah, but that was so abrupt change 
Meanwhile home still the same
I do find it a li'l weird the snow only stays for 3 weeks in aviary
maybe I'll leave feedback about it
the race prop is it in the shop or with tickets?
Sadly, yesterday they moved it to... Nowhere?
I do still believe it'll come in some form, what with it being the feast item they tweaked the most, but we'll see 🧇
Where can you get the feast cape? It's not in the spirit's tree anymore
You can't
It's iap now and if you bought anything from the tree you couldn't get it. But also, DoFeast is over😔
Did the new season break the news?
@rugged kindle never thought of it as horns. I thought it was a Loop from the belt.🎀
Yeah it just looks like it due to perspective, it always has the horns, just shuffled around in different positions
I like it with a 🎀 and maybe some little stars collar.
Guys I have a little memory loss XD where did it go/is the giant plant in aviary?
Soooo. They changed all those things at 1.30 am in the night for me and then ended it with reset 8 hours later. Which means I couldn't get to see any of it?? 
Any guess what would be the shop next to music hall coz there is nothing more to be added from the closest except tgc cooking something
And why there is an empty space next to cape shop?
I love the horns on the yeti boots, makes them so cute and actually feel yeti inspired 
Hi mimi!
It should still be there in the clouds to your left, when looking at the village from the bell tower, just hidden in them pretty well now 
guys what is Netease server ?
Ehm... Did days of feast ended again? It's a little bit sad because I just updated beta and didn't get the chance to see what has changed
It’s the Chinese version of Sky, it’s essentially the same game with some differences, which you can read about on the wiki page. Keep in mind, anything seen on the Netease server shouldn’t be taken as something which will also come to global, as there have been exclusive cosmetics & events over there in the past 
The change to the first WL's position is definitely interesting
I think it's trying to encourage exploration more before you get your first wedge, but it's a pretty big change to have moths wait this much to have their first WL (quests 1-3 of aviary + more isle than before, likely until the cliffside)
it does however hark back to the original intro of the game, where you got your wings from Isle Elder as you walked out of the temple
Moths who think they're too good for WL be like:
did anyone actually see the change in the wl position for themselves, aside from the person in the screenshots channel?
a few of my friends checked it out, but found all of them to be in the same places
it makes me wonder if this switcheroo is for newborn moths only, with more experienced players getting a more accessible wl placement 
I don't think that'd make a lot of sense
sometimes it happens that a few people get different builds in beta iirc, maybe that's why?
#beta-screenshots-videos message
they said here that it's for newborn moths 
Huh, that's strange... Why make the change only for new moffs? I wouldn't mind going through the temple 
doesnt make sense to me either, but the people who tested it weren't playing on the same platform 
maybe so that new players learn to deep honk for the butterfly boost 🤔 not sure either but that's one reason I can think of
the temptation to make a new moth account is strong, but doing all 4 aviary quests again, aaaaa 
That's not the confusing part to me, what confuses me is why we get the WL earlier than moffs now 
oh that's true
ig the boat wl is just more convenient
Players are reborn with at least the Orbit wing, so you never really restart capeless unless you've forced yourself to do so. You're generally trying to regain your mobility as quickly as possible on subsequent playthroughs, so making returning players walk a long distance before picking up another flap would probably just come across as unnecessarily annoying when we're not on our first exploratory playthrough
Without having tested on a new account: I'd be guessing that the boat wing won't appear for players on their first playthrough, but will start appearing normally once they've gone through Eden (or perhaps once they've finished Isle and are able to return to it?). Wouldn't make a lot of sense in my mind if that's a wing they're permanently kept from being able to get
cy tested it on their capeless account that, iirc, progressed far enough, and they still had the boat wl
so it might be tied to the regular forest / valley progression trigger, where you can participate in events and such 
(or, yk, even earlier)
I'm still not too happy that there's no way of experiencing the new intro without starting a new account entirely, considering that cloud field looks like an entirely unique area unlike how the original intro was basically stormlocked Home
Im still praying the other boots come back I want them so baddd
Anyone else doing the intro and not being able to turn back into isle?
@limpid crown haha, new players in this build start at Aviary, complete 3 quests and then start the 4th. They get to isle and then need to go to at least forest in order to be able to return to isle
Yes yes, I know that they start at Aviary now, but I got confused in the picture because I assumed that they seemed to be only able to enter Prairie, but not Isle XD
Hahahahahahahaha yeah it’s a misleading picture
it’s either a bug or strange but I couldn’t re-enter isle omg
Sorry for the ping but I just tested this: #beta-screenshots-videos message
Hmm, that might warrant further testing: are the Temple and boat wings considered the same one which can spawn in two different positions, or are they actually two entirely different wings that only appear under certain conditions?
That’s a good question! I have no idea - the boat WL gave us two cutscenes: (1) “Seek lost memories to gather WL” and (2) “begin by answering the temples call”. It was also our first introduction to the cape
This for new players gets replaced by the ledge WL normally now, I didn’t grab that for capeless reasons 
I’d assume it’s the same one, just placed behind the temple on the first run through to have the cape introduction after freeing another spirit / opening the spirit gate
This took so long Oml
Guys where is the new cape ? I can't find it on the shop 
feast testing is over sadly 
I mean, you can always check #beta-announcements and make sure you are on the latest update, if you're curious about what to test
No news of it being tested to my awareness, haven't seen anything mentioned in #beta-announcements or any confirmation from staff of those items
please delete your message as it contains hacked content, which we can't discuss here! 
Building off what others have said, if it's not in #beta-announcements or regularly in #beta-screenshots-videos then likely it's fake/illegal and shouldn't be brought up here
Also report all hacking related videos to @/Stellify
#beta-screenshots-videos message
This is really needlessly confusing, I'm not sure what to think of that
So.. days of feast has ended, even though we got the latest update for it today? Is this a normal thing in beta?
It can still be back 😄 that’s normal
Okay, good:)
I thought this was genchat
I was so confused lmao, I thought I somehow missed an entire event
there are children screaming in my house bathroom
This channel doesn’t go nearly as fast as genchat lol. If anything this is more like cozy
Beta is the opposite of cozy
Beta can stay on topic much longer than cozy tbh
Hyperfocused cosy 
I meant in speed 
Though imo it makes sense for the WL to be first moved to the temple for new players as it gives an opportunity for them to explore more of the isle while capeless and learn about honking for the butterflies.
After the player has gone through the next realms, it will return to the usual spot by the boat, hence making the subsequent wlr easier.
So I can ask questions here about the home?
Time for beta wishlist-and-ideas
Or not ig
beta-lore-discussion-spoilers :o
Can I ask questions here about the upcoming stuff?
why don't you just ask instead of asking if you can ask, please
If this is not the channel then I have to search the right one
we won't know if it is the right place until you ask what you want to ask
Ok so it's about the home
If I have to play through eden again when the update drops
4th seasonal quest is already in live, so nothing to do about update?
I mean you can't change homes yet
correct
But do be able to you have to beat the 4th quest first right?
Regarding the difference between live and beta, you probably have to wait for dev #news update...
Hmm I just hope I don't have to do it again
That's why I came here
beta is a different app and lots of things happen here that never make it to Live
if i am not wrong, yes...
Since I had the time to do eden rn I did it and when the update comes I hope I'll be able to switch freely
there are no other Eden quests in the season, as far as I am aware
But you might want to complete a few past seasonal quests
Instead of just having to play through eden again
Yeah I did all 4 now
all four what?
Season quests
we are not sure of the criteria changes if the home is available to change to aviary and the criteria might change from 4th seasonal quest to maybe end of season quest. so better wait for more news
I think there are more than that, something like six at least and each of those also have 6
Anyways that was the reason why I came here since it's not certain yet I'll dip again
Thanks alot and seeya :D
ok, good luck
You're making this uncessarily complicated. Just do the 4th quest and you don't have to worry about anything else
yeah, that is the only one where you have to go to Eden
Ah I think I was misunderstanding and misreading something
The way you put is clearer to me thank you
Hahaha sorry I was doing isle for over an hour and my brain was fried 
soffritto
why were you in isle for so long Sof 
Better than sorbet 😭
Pff because it takes so long capeless and I had to check for a friend how capeless-friendly the WL were and then I got lost in the water and then I couldn’t enter isle anymore
it was a moment
@grave meteor the boots and the white hat were available as a spell temporarily, but they didn’t turn out to be cosmetics we obtained in beta!
Sky Misadventures with Sof

When the new season will start?
@merry mulch, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
probably cause it's more exciting to discuss beta by itself 
!wafo
🧇 Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta or Live
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements, and Live announcements will be made in #news!
