📋︱feedback-discussion

[tardy night]

Your PC store getting them downloads from that obscure site no newbie ever seen too?

[molten comet]

It’s not statement

Some content creators released false information

[tardy night]

So what's your source? Their source is data aggregators. Whose business relies on "false info"

What's your source? "Real info" given by f+ ?

[molten comet]

Your source is sensor tower?

[tardy night]

No 😂🤣

[molten comet]

Exactly

[tardy night]

Ah. So castles in the air. Got it

[distant gull]

@waxen prawn 🥶

[ember mantle]

Wow 🤯

[hasty tulip]

They fixed that. You can finally set trap for next week, gj devs. It takes you only 1200 days of the game to do this

[distant gull]

I still P6 but 2 T11s unlocked 😅

[nova jetty]

At least it's fixed now for the 3 billion other things..

[unreal lichen]

@spice saffron I have read your feedback and answered to that in this video here #📺︱archivist_video message feel free to discuss about it (if here, pls tag me, otherwise I may miss your comment)

[stable cosmos]

I think troop drill broke for me this week. 5 each day gets you to 35, no issues. Mine said 3 to go, which i did this morning. They haven't counted.

Not only that i regularly do more than 5 a day so i should be well over the margin at this point. Its stuck on 32/35

At worst I've missed it once, but even that doesn't account for having done extras

[fair cobalt]

Sounds like a bug to me honestly. I know this is asked a lot but have you reset the game. If so I would suggest putting a ticket in for that. Mine have always counted so I haven’t heard of this happening so far

[stable cosmos]

I did a restart, i could put in a report but i have no way at all of proving i did them and that todays don't count. Its only 10 gas. I could also coin it but it really isn't worth it. I'll keep an eye on it this week

[fair cobalt]

I still think it’s worth checking on. They may be able to check into your account and find it as well. It’s a long shot but worth a try!

If you decide to do a bugs report be sure to use the template #🐞︱bugs-how-to-report if you need help with posting a report, please reach out to me or any other mod and we will help you.

Does anybody else need help with feedback?

[clever blaze]

Runs until the 23rd? Well today is the 22nd and it closed? With zero purpose to even be in the event page now? Thanks for the deception devs

It’s a fundamentally criminal company you don’t think they want to cover up as much as they can?

Newsflash the game is dying and people are leaving in masses

[vernal moss]

Hi chief, this is the closing phase to where players can collect any rewards in case it’s been missed during the playtime.
Unfortunately it’s easily misunderstood since it doesn’t really need a closing phase. Many players have bright this up and it keeps getting people.

I’d suggest to bring it up about either adding the extra day to play or close it the day early in #📋︱feedback-reporting but please do read #📋︱feedback-how-to before doing so!

[clever blaze]

I guess having the rewards automatically sent to mail was too difficult to code 🤣 thanks but I don’t do feedback’s anymore

They have core issues with almost every aspect of their game this is very minor considering my game crashes every 30 minutes lol

[junior bone]

Bring back underground migo

Every 3 months you release a new feature then every 3 months update in game stores

[topaz mountain]

Hi, there was just a feedback report done for this. Please upvote if you haven’t already. 😊 #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[spice saffron]

Thank you very much, Warrior.

I just wanted to clarify something so I understand it correctly. When you suggested to “register those who will actively participate in your alliance,” does that mean register all players in the alliance who complete dailies and events outside of KOTH? (Since the matching is predetermined in Legion 1.)

Currently, I only register players who will make it to 1200, 1400, and, surprisingly, 1600 UTC.

Thanks again. 😊

[wide wraith]

with KoTH Tier matches being such an unpopular format and the complete failure of the last running of Doomsday league, why are the Devs ignoring feedback and looking to run Doomsday again?

[stable cosmos]

Combo of greed and stupidity

[wide wraith]

yeah they forget that last time they couldnt even get 256 alliances to take part

maybe if the Devs actually talked to players (like they said they would) they would never run Doomsday again

the so-called bug that sent out an email cancelling the event (which was never a bug, regardless of what the CM said) should have been honoured. I wonder if we will get the same this time as they probably will just copy and paste the event like they do with ALL events

@feral sinew tell the Devs to stop the generalisation, Survival Royale is not ALL chiefs favourite, to be honest I cant stand it, especially with the way they added packs and keep messing with it.

why do they continue with the so-called tactical emote that no one asked for and as far as i can see no-one uses

[stable cosmos]

I used it once. In survival royale, but i also went straight into the fog to die shortly after using it

[wide wraith]

i havent even bothered to set it up, emotes annoy me at the best of times

[unreal lichen]

Those who might participate! I once registered player that says nothing to group message and not very active in event, but suddenly showed up in KotH, not everyone registered will play, but you get more chance

[stable cosmos]

I hate the stickers, they're another thing nobody asked for. Just the devs trying to make chat more like discord probably

[wide wraith]

they are annoying and childish

[still matrix]

Hello shadow and cyan, what you think we needed to make the event more friendly for players 🤗

[wide wraith]

remove it and return to how it was when it was first added, where everyne had a chance to win

[stable cosmos]

Royale? Nothing they'll do. Can suggest a bunch of stuff they can do to make it worse, they'll take those on board

[still matrix]

We can submit all the suggestion to feedback, so we can improve the event based on player ideas

[stable cosmos]

Argh, mod talking points. Someone find that handbook and delete it

[wide wraith]

why bother, the Devs rerunning of the failed Doomsday open proves that they ignore feedback, not everyone has the memory of a goldfish

[stable cosmos]

The fact that koth is still going despite being buggy horrible tat is also a good example

[clever blaze]

“Based on player ideas” 😂😂😂

[still matrix]

Our dev team constantly trying to improve the events and rewards based on player suggestions

[wide wraith]

BS

[clever blaze]

Oh stop nobody is buying your crap

[wide wraith]

you mean trying to come up with ways to sell packs and turn the game into a pay 2 play, its already p2w

[clever blaze]

The fact that you mod’s continue to peddle lies is insulting and degrading

[wide wraith]

if that was true, whats the excuse for tactial emotes that no one ever asked for and adds nothing to the game

[clever blaze]

We play the game every day we have eyes

[stable cosmos]

We know you're players too. We get that. But please don't shill for the company

[still matrix]

To be honest, I played as a f2p/low spender myself

[clever blaze]

THIS yes most are pretty understanding but really you turn everybody against you for trying to stand up for these criminals

[stable cosmos]

They're not worth it. You don't need to insult them but please don't insult us by implying fup is better than they show themselves to be

[clever blaze]

Proof is in the pudding if devs listened to players and wanted to improve the game my game wouldn’t crash every 20 minutes

[stable cosmos]

When someone shows you what they are, believe them. And funplus have shown over and over what they are and most of us recognise it.

Acting like they're somehow not morally bankrupt doesyou no favours

[wide wraith]

i dont know why a mod would stand up for a company which leaves them to face the music when there are CMs who could support them but hardly ever do

[clever blaze]

Literally Stockholm syndrome. Or just caring about the perks above all else

[still matrix]

I'm so glad we have such a hardcore and passionate players like you all, Let's all work together and make the game better for everyone

[clever blaze]

That’s better 😘

[stable cosmos]

I still want someone to burn the handbook

[still matrix]

Don't worry I'm burning it 😂

[wide wraith]

we try, the mods try, BUT, there is no support from the company's paid staff

[still matrix]

We can submit all the suggestions still, You guys had some amazing suggestion, if we submit them that'll benefits every player

[stable cosmos]

We didn't make any suggestions, we were just having a wee rant about doomsday being awful

And the other features that are bad that get thrown at us

[wide wraith]

but the Devs just ignore them thats the issue, take the way they dealt with reopening Gashapon loads of negative feedback, ALL ignored

[stable cosmos]

I woulda been ok with 1 day of gasha as they gave me 30 tokens after it closed...

[tardy night]

It's part of mod duties to make their presence known in DC. So you get this. Where mods have to act diplomatic when no one's really asking for help much or raising hell, but complaining mostly. Lol.

If they took that bit out regarding needing to be here for a little time every day, you'll see that handbook fly

[stable cosmos]

I don't mind them being human and saying things, the handbook responses rustle my jimmies

[wide wraith]

the problem is that there is no way for important feedback to be submitted, it takes weeks before it gets to the Devs table, often by the time they see it, its too late

[still matrix]

We are always with players, and open to every opinion, We are players ourselves, We go through the same problem as any players, that's why we encourage players to make more suggestion to make the game better for everyone

[stable cosmos]

Jimmies VERY rustled

If you'd come in and said "you're right, nobody liked doomsday I'll ask some other people if they can find out why its coming back"

[wide wraith]

then you will know how the lack of communication from the Devs annoys everyone

[stable cosmos]

That'd be human. The handbook responses just annoy all of us

[spark kindle]

Mods are generally nice people and most of them really try to help with things if they can. The real problem here is that people who are actual employees of fp and do get paid to interact with players but do not bother to do so

[analog nymph]

And there is too many same feedbacks from different players that those would actually rise to top 10 with upvotes

[spark kindle]

Feedback and bug reporting system MUST change, both channels are just dumpster fires and a waste of time and effort for both players and mods

[tardy night]

It's funny cuz they don't really have to say anything at all. 🤣

[analog nymph]

Yes those are dumpsters

[tardy night]

Moderation used to be about intervening in case of ToS being broken, or someone needing help.

Here it turns into being placative apologism for a company that can't speak for itself or hire a competent CS.

[spark kindle]

I think it might be an individual thing, I'm not sure if it's company policy since not all mods do it

I do agree that it is very annoying

[stable cosmos]

Nah, mods take turns in this space. Probably a rotation

[analog nymph]

This feedback discussion channel gives the truth about all poop fp gives us they should read these channels instead the reports

[tardy night]

It's a result occurring from two company policies.

They get drilled regarding being active on DC to handle players with compensation affected by it.

The company cuts out mods who don't actively show their presence.

The third factor is simply that complaints which mods can do nothing about are the biggest input from the community in DC.

[stable cosmos]

As always, no response to feedback helps nobody. This only works cos somewhere in the chain someone is a 🤬 🤬 idiot

[analog nymph]

New mods gives the hand book materials on their responces because they really dont know how poop fp is

I would really like to say the real word rather than poop🤣

[tardy night]

💩

[still matrix]

Like I said before, Every mod is a Player themselve. We understand the struggle with some events for the players. We trying our best to communicate with the dev team and solve those problems as much as we can

[analog nymph]

That poop emoji is too smily

And crap is also too nice word

[tardy night]

It's funplus. You supposed to be having fun with the crap they shove at ya. 🤣

[wide wraith]

its not what the mods do thats the problem, its those above the mods , paid by the company to be managers of a community but who in reality couldnt manage their way out of a wet paper bag

[analog nymph]

Cm don't really know crap either

[mighty gorge]

Played? As in used to?

[still matrix]

Now it's sometimes f2p and sometimes low spender 😂

[stiff ether]

Maybe in terms of „to play“ as some kind of leisure activity. Back in the days when there were some kind of gaming elements. Now it’s merely a shopping mall with casino elements.

[analog nymph]

And also if tapper mean playing then yes to gaming🤣

[stable cosmos]

Most of the stuff they add isn't even the core game now. Koth, royale, neither of these use rallies. They're not about march composition. Barely give a damn about timings or any of the stuff that people started out for.

Other "events" aren't, they're just pay your way through a prize track

[solid rivet]

Still no info about how they will exchange the red/amber potion in RE event??? 4 days to end and I have nothing yet

[digital glacier]

Use or lose

[solid rivet]

Nothing to buy and I will not lose something that I bought

[digital glacier]

You probably will

Sos cs "you Shouldn't have bought so much vials then."

Thank you for your support and understanding

Your sos team

[solid rivet]

They are in packs, I cant choose the amount

[digital glacier]

And what's your amount look like?

[solid rivet]

I have 3000 red potions I cant use. I saw in RE normal coins that you can exchange 10 potion using 20 coins so it would be 6000 RE coins

[digital glacier]

You Couldn't have been too concerned about it if You chose to buy those packs with those vials and didn't see anything regarding a conversion for them.

Reverse exchange never a thing. So you can even use that as a comparison. If it was, sos lose more money than they already are.

[mighty gorge]

Red potions are just pureed tomatoes. They will likely be returned to you at the end of the event

[solid rivet]

Better than nothing

At least I could use those tomatoes to throw them to their faces

[digital glacier]

Even if they return it. Who knows if an when they'll be usable in the future.
They could do what they did with the old 777 slot tokens
Make a clone image item number
I still have those coins I paid biocaps for. But they're not usable.
Kind of like crowbars and all other sorts of stuff they got rid of. 😂

[stable cosmos]

No saving for new events is allowed. No stocking up on coins for value slots or stars for fortune telling. That one makes no sense, i can reroll my options, whoopdy doo. The game still gives tat why would rerolls matter

[tardy night]

Waiting for when they bring out new plasma for every migo.

[outer seal]

really? what they improved? guys spoil almost everything what they touch 😂. bugs are not fixed for years, but devs still are in a big hurry to release new and new bugged bs, breaking balance and gameplay

[outer seal]

you can stock value slots coins one time, if won't collect from the tasks. those coins which are used to spin slots

[steel musk]

most events it's p2p.. last event f2p couldn't get 300 pearls..
they going to make all events p2p .. looks remove game better way to fix it lol👀

[steel musk]

and with devs also.. because always send about sos rules 👀

devs don't listen to players.. keep suggests for nothing lol

too many feedback reports in that's channel.. all will go to trash

they know what players want or have issues with.. so what's point of add somthing then wait to see if people will complaint or not... It's dumb

[analog nymph]

This is truly the best way

[mighty gorge]

Its not about how many there are, its about the fact they dont' get triaged properly, or the are presented in a linear manner so they get lost. Too many people also create 'trash' reports because they lack the basic capability to even understand the game they are playing. Equally, the output of these should have visibility and there should also be transparency from FP

[still matrix]

Hey, CR 7, We trying our best to pass the information about player problems to dev team. But I understand that sometimes issues aren't getting fixed, We constantly passing the info and working with them to make the game more enjoyable and bug free for everyone ♥️

[analog nymph]

And if something dont happen to get the game closer what it used to, ill do just that

[steel musk]

yes some feedbacks no need doing it.. BUT devs don't listen to any feedback

[steel musk]

game going to be worse... everyday for f2p

so not as you say

[mighty gorge]

Look at the one I wrote. I had DM's from people telling me it summed up everything people thought and they couldn't have said it better. It got 115 upvotes. A few days later a myriad of other things surpass it and it gets lost, then something that focuses solely on Survival Royale and the 40/30 argument and it gets almost 1000 upvotes. In context, it makes zero sense.

Its inherently wrong that these are point in time views

[steel musk]

people always forgot.. yesterday they complaint about Ray's place.. and devs didn't listen to them.. today they complaint about royal..

this game will make you always complaint..
If think complaint fun, then this game is better way to get that

as i said.. devs know what players want.. they could just don't doing that.. but are they care for that?

[outer seal]

you're right, i doubt i'll leave this thread after quiting the game:))

[steel musk]

and mods will say devs working and care about feedback.. no need to say that.. It's easy to say but tbh we don't see that.

[still matrix]

As a player I understand all these problems, that's why we encouraging players to make suggestions.

[steel musk]

next week i am sure players will complaint about another thing

[mighty gorge]

BINGO! ding ding ding

[outer seal]

why those suggestions are needed if guys don't fix bugs for years? how devs, who can't even make properly red dots could improve some events?

[mighty gorge]

I feel this needs pinning 😂

[analog nymph]

I might stay here too after i quit this more f2p friendly and there is lot of action too🤣

[mighty gorge]

Missed you in KoTH yesterday, I was looking someone to chase around the map

[still matrix]

All the bugs are sending to the dev team and we are trying to get them fixed as much as we can

[outer seal]

so devs have been trying to fix radar, alliance donations, congratulations with plasma appearence and troops unlocked in 2021, etc and still are trying to fix them or what? we have some bugs more than 2 years. guys would better find themselves with another occupation

[analog nymph]

I was in l2

[steel musk]

i know where this will go if i talk about it .. next will be " They have a timeline to fix bugs"

[analog nymph]

And in koh i don't need to be chased ill run back to fight😌

[steel musk]

don't worry everyone koth lag will be fixed after 2 years

[outer seal]

i wouldn't believe so much in this devs team:)

[full pivot]

I can't even click the port cities in koth. It's literally one pixel you have to hit to select those. And the food assignments don't even work properly

Issues that have been there since the start and have been reported numerous times

[still matrix]

Koth lag was bad for most of people yesterday, it's already been reported

[mighty gorge]

They should just do what they did with MM, remove it. My guess is that I would be surprised though if it returned or even came back looking very different.

[outer seal]

when koth lags and bugs were not bad? why to release such bugged event at all? i'd not say it's interesting even if would work properly. 1 hour of boriness, for which you have to be online in unknown before matching time

[full pivot]

It's bad almost every week

Time to upgrade those potato servers

[steel musk]

It was reported since koth started.. and they didn't fix it yet.. everyone know that..if playing koth

[mighty gorge]

They can only afford the T2.nano EC2 instances. They need the rest of the money to refill the vending machine with gold bars

[steel musk]

so what's already reported mean lol

[analog nymph]

I think it was reported already at ptr

[steel musk]

there many bugs in koth.. like emoji show up in screen lol

[cosmic tulip]

It wasn’t just lag… It crashed completely and no one received there rewards or the battle results mail when the battle finished and each time they tried to re-enter the game gave a data error and restarted…

[cold tangle]

This is a good idea tbh, from my knowledge MM and KotH have always had a lot of bugs

[outer seal]

this might be not Koth bug, game often crushes after updates, i had more than 10 crushes yesterday

[steel musk]

we will end with no events left lol

[cosmic tulip]

No. Many and I mean many people at 14.00utc. 🫣

[cold tangle]

Hey, at least we'll have one less thing to worry about

[analog nymph]

There still the mini p2p "events"🤣

[mighty gorge]

Not so much an idea, its just natural to do when a release fails. You roll it back, learn from your mistakes and don't do it again.

[steel musk]

I think they will remove koth after summit 🤣

[steel musk]

oh then good i didn't click on link

[analog nymph]

🔌pull out🤣

[cold tangle]

Yes but after all the feedback in the past, nothing changed much So it's good they are finally trying, I hope they do this with all the buggy events

[steel musk]

events in game it's already too much. no need mini game lol

i hope they fix bunkers and cc also. we have those rewards since 3 years..
almost no one fight for bunker or cc

game not fun as beginning.. it get worse every day

they keep add things but forget update rewards

[still matrix]

We all hope that all the bugs will get fixed soon

[steel musk]

we hope but looks it's hope for nothing

I just doing bunker for 1st occup rewards.. if was from hive.. rewards don't worth fight for it so most states don't care about bunkers..
CC also.. few rallies then everyone quit rally

and no strategy.. like cc.. DYZ or FBI state they don't have fight just send march then going offline.. and they won against zombies lol

too many states like that.. no fight on cc...

so game not as beginning.. when could win by double rally / ghost rally etc

[full pivot]

Has anyone actually sat down and worked out if all the stats actually work? With the issues FP has in other areas I'm not sure they know. We have so many stats now, with behemoth, planes, vehicles, statues etc. I wouldn't be surprised if none of it works the way it's supposed to do. And this is the core of the game

[stiff ether]

Or chasing march🥹 when you had Chef occupying capital

[steel musk]

now some states could do cc from hive, no need port to gray zone

[outer seal]

i think some of stats still work the way they supposed to

[full pivot]

How does anyone know?

Without testing

[outer seal]

i did some tests, but it's needed to test after every update to be sure

[steel musk]

no one know.. It's stats + Behemoth + formation system and tanks.. Not stats only

[full pivot]

Did you publish it anywhere?

[outer seal]

no i was just checking what was interesting to me after we started to loose where used to win and win where supposed to loose:)

[full pivot]

So you don't know empirically what the stats do. Other than improving them improves your performance

For example, if you're f2p which bundles gets you the best upgrades?

[vale yoke]

If you're f2p, no bundles, because you're not going to buy them. Next riddle!

[outer seal]

it's not same for different players, depends of what and how was upgraded already. i'd advise to not buy bundles at all, till devs fix the game:)

[full pivot]

Ye true, if you're f2p just quit. Funplus don't care about you

[vale yoke]

Fp doesn't care about any players, let's be honest

F2p or kraken, they don't care

[distant gull]

Get 2nd Builder in game but monies from Google Play Rewards and Play Points

[full pivot]

No, don't change the subject

Has anyone ever worked out what the stats do? Is there any theorycraft anywhere at all?

[vale yoke]

But yeah, in response to your question, no bundles are ideal for f2p because, by definition, they're free players and therefore do not purchase game bundles, including 2nd construct.

[full pivot]

You're missing the point as per usual

[vale yoke]

I'm really not, you're being contentious as usual, and I'm being obnoxious as usual. Yay!

We all have our roles here

[full pivot]

Not contentious. It's the core of the whole game and no one knows what it does, not even the devs

[outer seal]

yeah, there was player with nickname request who made reverse and got combat formulas, if to very simplify, main formula is something like damage = att* lethality/def*health. battle goes by rounds, where all types of troops hit and target infantry, after it dies raiders and after hunters. every 20 rounds raiders do skillshot directly to enemy hunters

[analog nymph]

Thats sos screwing players since 2019 he usually does those kind of calculations

[outer seal]

i think we all use formulas posted by Request

[vale yoke]

At this point, I just guess lol

In all fairness however, I have never played this game the way it's "supposed" to be

[full pivot]

Is it posted anywhere? On any website?

Is it kept updated or has Request quit like most other people?

It would be a game changer if this was available. But then maybe funplus just wants us to spend blindly

[outer seal]

i'll pm you after finding a link

[vale yoke]

Actually, if you search this room for the keyword "formula" you'll find multiple posts and references alongside equations from players who have figured it out to the best of their knowledge. Including Mufasa.
Granted, it isn't dev posted, but I mean... We won't get that.

[full pivot]

So nothing is up to date then... Oh well

They release sometjing new every week

[vale yoke]

It happens. Unfortunately, as there is no "official" anything regarding this, it's all unlikely to be the most up-to-date. But it is a good guidepost to get an idea of how things are being calculated.

[woven spire]

The alliance top up is the most unrealistic thing i ever seen

175k solo points a day?

[vale yoke]

Would it be nice if we could have actual real values? Absolutely. But not something the devs are likely to do as that would affect how people spend. They won't release info which would affect whether or not people will spend on dumb things.

[woven spire]

You think we elon musk

[full pivot]

I doubt the formulas are accurate. Or they're accurate up to a point for certain things only. With so many other variables, like planes, behemoths, hero skills, resonating heroes, vehicles, statues etc.

[woven spire]

After xmas and new year

[vale yoke]

RIGHT?!?!

I choked when I saw that.

[woven spire]

Ye they put angelica packs to make it easier

Man man man every new day new top up event

With new crazy buys

As alliance we at 250k now. Never gonna make the 500k even

And that daily

They want 1 person to make almost half the points

[full pivot]

Well just goes to show how stupid FP are. The last year has shown catering to the whales doesn't work financially, but they still do it. Reduce the points, make the rewards better and maybe more people will feel it's worthwhile to buy some bundles

[woven spire]

Ye and the rewards are worthless🤣🤣

For high spenders

For f2p its good but whos gonna make this

[outer seal]

his website doesn't work already, but i found image

that's not all:) but guess has to be enough for the start:))))

[vale yoke]

Ew. Maths.

[outer seal]

you're welcome

[outer seal]

i think i simplified it for maximum above, it's enough to get a clue

[vale yoke]

It's not that I can't do maths, I can, I just hate it lol

It makes my brain think in uncomfortable ways.

Itchy

[vivid hawk]

Just seen camp cafe. Another season more pay to win stuff coming. New tempest arms ...smh

Upgradable winter buildings....smh

All things I'm sure that don't feature in any of our feedabck

And yet getting the predicted march time to match, they actual march time in alliance duel.....nope!

[full pivot]

Ye, that's what I meant about only showing specific stats. There's no plane, statues, behemoths, skills etc. in that formula

We all know improving the base stats like attack, defence, health and lethality help

But FP likes to throw those things out at us

[tardy night]

You do know that funplus has a ToS which actively forbids people from gaining knowledge of how the game actually works. Right?

[full pivot]

So is that the player's fault or funplus they want to keep us in the dark?????

[vale yoke]

Their super secret proprietary stuff they mention

[vivid hawk]

I think even if you could, making sense of things like the battle system need a PhD!

[full pivot]

It's not proprietary, it's how the combat system works. It goes back to not knowing what you're buying and it being another gamble, if you don't know what things do how can anyone make a good decision?

[tardy night]

Any math undergrad should be able to deal with it. But it's against F+ interests to let anyone find out how the game calculates battles.

[full pivot]

Yet they're happy to sell those same items to us that influences how the game calculates battles.

[vale yoke]

You misunderstand me. The ToS directly uses the term "proprietary," I believe. I was being sarcastic.

[tardy night]

Proprietary would mean anything if they didn't copy paste from another title themselves lol

[vale yoke]

Lol

[tardy night]

Gives me Steve Jobs vibes. "Boy did we patent it"

[vale yoke]

There's this meme I had to steal regarding subscription model gaming because Ubisoft (the irony of our VP of Business or whatever being a former Ubisoft head is not lost on me) recently said something to the affect of gamers own nothing. So it says, if purchase isn't ownership, then privacy isn't theft, and I feel like that would also apply with calculations/game information.
If we don't own our games, names, purchases, etc, then it shouldn't matter if we know the calculations and real information/reports for game functions/events, because it will only serve to drive profits in a more direct manner which serves their copy/paste subscription reliant model. If they have to keep it hidden per their own ToS, then it's because they know they aren't developing anything which can withstand transparency.

On that note. I'm going to go hide for a while. Before I get in trouble.

[outer seal]

gamedev nowadays is mostly plagiarism. stuff is copied and slightly changed to not be judged in the court. i even once had test task before interview to make some reverse of existed game:)

and feedback from my state about how devs are trying to fix the bugs

[crystal iron]

Vote in top 10 about Battle report :p

[woven spire]

So a mod said the revenue down is a myth?

And hes only source was hes thumb?

🤣

They get paid to talk good about the game?

[outer seal]

that was probably a new guy, who imagined himself as a part of dev team. i doubt he got his bio for it:)

[woven spire]

🤣🤣🤣

All they do even proves more that revenue is not going very well

And imagine 1 of there top spenders quits

There goes another 50k a month

They doing great🤣🤣

[outer seal]

content creators already call this game as state of liars:)

[woven spire]

Content creators (some) get bunch of diamonds tho

Alooot

I want to🤣

Its really easy to solve their issues. Just the question is if its to late or not

And it will cost them money. Fix bugs and loads of times and ofcourse cannot release

[full pivot]

Or the ones who haven't sold their soul?

[outer seal]

i don't remember who exactly, just recalled a video from youtube, but was surely not the 1st type you described:)

[mighty gorge]

🤷‍♂️

This is also the report from 18/12/23'

[cosmic tulip]

Will lvl 6’s carry on during the migo break or is this the last week of getting vehicle materials?

[mighty gorge]

I'm sure they stopped appearing after the last migo ended.

[cosmic tulip]

Yeah…

[mighty gorge]

Which, although only a few weeks, still sucks

[cosmic tulip]

Limiting the places to acquire them while we wait. It be so much better if they included the rewards on normal fiends.

That is under the assumption lvl 6’s will be back

[mighty gorge]

Aww, shucks @vale yoke I wanted to be just like you! Where's my dev 1 on 1. I'll bring the pugil sticks!!

[wooden dew]

Hi Island, agreed. One vehicle part a day from the 1st dreadbeast kill is nowhere near enough. Awarding them from regular infected fiend kills (even just the 1st) would be a great start to making the feature more accessible. I imagine over time there’ll be an increasing number of ways to earn those materials. Thanks for sharing. I’ll forward that.

[outer seal]

i wonder how can you value it, without knowing whole vehicles progress? almost all ingame stuff is related with each other somehow, and such propositions would most probably kill the balance, which is already very bad

[mighty gorge]

I've no idea:

• What the vehicle level cap is or how much gas is needed per level
• What the vehicle star level cap is, I mean sure, Purple x5, Blue x5....up to what? and what is the cost of progression fragments, or required plasma

I imagine there is going to come a point where the scaling of the vehicles in the war factory, far outweigh even what you get from the drops from dreadbeasts etc.

[cosmic tulip]

In about year or two… there be other ways or increased amount. Sadly. I’m surprised this feature was included into events, along with additional ways to get the material to support f2P - mid’s was implemented so quickly.

[wooden dew]

Hello Zaar, great question - imo the only value that can be assigned to a new feature and or it materials is “expensive”. The reason being - until there is a comprehensive understanding of how much needs to be invested to maximize the feature, there is no way determine how valuable its materials are. Normally you could look at how freely available those materials are, but early on they’re made hard to get, so that isn’t exactly a good representation of it as far as value goes. Once changes are (inevitably) made to increase the means of earning those materials, we’ll have a better idea of how valuable the feature is overall. Until then, I’d recommend investing within means and sparingly. Those changes need to be included sooner rather than later. Hope that answer / rationale helps somewhat!

[outer seal]

when i started to work as game designer, my senior told me: read players propositions but never follow them:)

[mighty gorge]

While I agree with the assessment, actually the problem (yet again) is with FP and their lack of transparency, communication and detail over new features that they release.

The concept of 'investing within means' is subjective, especially if that means results in a player never actually achieving a legendary vehicle for several months, or indeed progressing to anything worthwhile.

Whos to say that there is no upper limit, and people just keep spending and spending

and meanwhile, those that rely on the free to gain items, get further and further away

[cosmic tulip]

It will come cheaper and easier obtainable when vehicles gen2 is out..

[outer seal]

and even much more cheaper with vehicles gen22 😂

[outer seal]

all materials have to be balanced, if you increase or decrease amount of one type it will affect values of others and change events gameplay

[mighty gorge]

There is a concept that FP also seem to either ignore, not be aware of, or simply don't care about. Generally microtransactions (notwithstanding the cosmetic aspects) serve to speed up progression. However, this also generally means that its still achievable in the first place as someone that doesn't pay.

This is a generally accepted position in gaming, what might take a player that doesn't pay 1 year to get to the 'top level' will take a paying customer 9, 6 or 3 months therefore advancing their progression greatly based on spend. Here, FP seem to put everything, 3, 4, 5 and even many years away, even in some cases for lower level spenders. For F2P, that in some cases is a case that they will never actually get anything.

They simply have no understanding of scaling and progression.

[tardy night]

Well sure, players won't always be right. And many will think with a limited scope affecting only their own individual or state gameplay. But to say that players should never be listened to? 😂😂

What is it, a game, or a business, that they develop 😂

[fleet yarrow]

SOS devs listen when things are put not complaint, but reason and logically explained. Or this was my thought. UNTIL they took Mining Mayhem away. I am hoping it returns. They can take labryth or path of water if they need server space, in my opinion.

[steel musk]

wow there someone still think devs listen

[fleet yarrow]

The labryth is just plain boring. Path of water if you make a team you lose, if you do solo you get frustrated by folks not actually playing. MM is loads of fun. Challenging. Team event. Why would they remove it of all things they could choose.

[brittle pulsar]

Ok

[steel musk]

MM loads of lag and bad matchmaking.. not fun lol

[outer seal]

this game would be already dead if devs made half of what players proposed to change:)

[fleet yarrow]

MM helps state. Folks must be top 10. So they work to be allowed MM.

[steel musk]

I like MM but devs don't listennnnnnn

[tardy night]

You're speaking as if developers know best every single time. End user input is valuable. You just have to filter out the noise. Not label all feedback as noise.

[steel musk]

they don't fix bugs and focus on add new events which need spend to get money

next month maybe.. will be raider resonating hero

[brittle pulsar]

Jane

[fleet yarrow]

They must add features. Otherwise money stops. No money, no game.

[steel musk]

they will add raider for sure.. until now they added inf / hunter.. Angelica / Selina..
raider on the way 🙈

[steel musk]

then they won't fix bugs.. and no MM for you

[outer seal]

feedbacks have to be read, but it's needed to do good analytics before to decide if changes are needed and what to change

[fleet yarrow]

If you could get maxed for free how would they pay someone to make game, to run servers, and whatever else they must pay so we can play.

[tardy night]

That's the filtering out part.

[steel musk]

they pay for time not items..

[fleet yarrow]

I am very low spender, but I accept i will never be the strongest. I enjoy the game. So just give back MM i will be happy again. 😬

[steel musk]

maybe next year MM will back

[fleet yarrow]

Time in business is an item

[steel musk]

as sos rules says.. they could remove or take anything from your backpack and you can't complaint

[fleet yarrow]

I am in business payroll is my biggest expense

[tardy night]

Have you looked at the P&L or balance sheets of any conventional gaming company?

[fleet yarrow]

They could remove game and you can not either. Fine print. What you buy or earn in game is thiers.

[outer seal]

i bet FP doesn't have balance sheets 😂 at least i wouldn't call so what they have

[steel musk]

I lost what you mean.. good luck with MM...
as much as they add new events which need spend.. they won't fix MM or any dumb bugs

[fleet yarrow]

Nope. But I am in customer service. People are my biggest expense. Second is technical licenses. So i would imagine it be similar

[vale yoke]

I'm fine with a transactional model as long as there's also a more balanced equivalence in terms of valuing time investments. Favoring micro transactions without balancing accessibility mindfully for f2p and lower spending demographics is not sustainable. And looking at their revenue reports, despite a raise after Christmas, they're only going to steadily drop again.
More and more development companies are learning that players are tired of subscriptions and microtransactions.

In this economy? No thank you.

[tardy night]

VC funded private company. They don't release such info, however industry wide available balance sheets will give enough insight on general expense trends.

[tardy night]

CS is different from gaming. Distribution and R&D expenses for gaming will outweigh payrolls.

[fleet yarrow]

Bottom line. I want MM back. It is not technically F2P because you cant win if your weak. 🤔

[vale yoke]

I think it's coming back tbh, just tweaked

[steel musk]

we all weak.. low spender if in strong state they good for tap tap only

like bots

[vale yoke]

I don't think they'd pull it for long despite the issues

Just my thoughts, though.

[steel musk]

so congrats you spent to be bot

[fleet yarrow]

We low can fill too. But i change my name to Twobot maybe😂😂

[steel musk]

didn't understand what i meant.. you can fill but your alliance will ask for who have maxed Behemoth to join

so you could tap tap only

[analog nymph]

Exactly

And if you fill and dont have good Behemoth you'll be kicked lol

[steel musk]

and when ask why, they tell you, they need strong Behemoth in

so if they didn't that's mean your state weak

and don't have enough players with maxed Behemoth

or gold

[fleet yarrow]

Um my behemoth are 2 star gold, 190 lvl, 27 skills.. not too little, but not maxed. Low spender does not equal weak if you maximize game rewards.

My plane is also decent.

[steel musk]

which rewards

barely could get Behemoth frags

for free

[fleet yarrow]

From playing events. You get tons for free that you pick.

[steel musk]

you are dream or dream

[fleet yarrow]

These rewards need update though. They are a waste

Who needs after 2 months of game play

[steel musk]

they busy add events need spend

give them time

[analog nymph]

If you have gold behemoth you can't say you are low spender

[steel musk]

and 27 skills also.. then mid spender have maxed Behemoth ?!

[fleet yarrow]

I have played 3 yrs. We used to be able to recycle them for skin tickets and if event they counted as use. But that option been gone a longtime

[fleet yarrow]

My 100% f2p account is almost gold. 2 steps. But only 3 skill maxed😬

[steel musk]

too many things need update.. CC, bunkers, horde, etc etc

[cosmic tulip]

The definition of what a low and mid is has vastly moved on this last year. A mid now is what we use to call a small whale 2 years ago…

[fleet yarrow]

Its all about smart use of choices

[steel musk]

If Monkey only
and if skipped Dino ( didn't upgrad)

[fleet yarrow]

My dino has barely upgrade true. But ape is priority. Then dino

[steel musk]

in rally you need both

[fleet yarrow]

My main both are upgrading. Rotation

Game will match. So it works.

I wish heros match like planes and behemoth do😂

Well I must work. Have a amazing day/night.

[steel musk]

which match

[fleet yarrow]

Game matches behemoth by power

Plane as well

Look a rally report. They are not in same order

Ok.. later must work.

[steel musk]

because it's count joiners also

good luck.. i have to go also

later

[prime hound]

Came to see if there is any feedback to submit

[full pivot]

If you look really hard you might still find some people who believe feedback works

[prime hound]

It sometimes works

For instance the effortless progress returned due to player feedback

[full pivot]

I mean proper feedback. Not bug reports. Even so there are still loads of bugs

[prime hound]

Totally understand and agree with you

[full pivot]

Ye like it was dropped without any notice at all

[prime hound]

But we try our best to send the info from the players

[full pivot]

Does your rewards work on a per feedback submitted basis?

[prime hound]

I agree with that. I had already done my sotf for the day before it opened

[prime hound]

Not at all

[full pivot]

Hmm okay

[prime hound]

If it did, I’d be a whale by now

[dense lance]

I actually really miss when the subscription was monthly and that was all you could get, no more and no less

[frosty fern]

would everyone please upvote the new feedback reporting? it would help everyone who has weak heros and too many hero frags

[dense lance]

it would be really nice to be able to give them to alliance members, or at least actually recycle them

[frosty fern]

i mean mostly the Gold Frags. I have a lot of Mangnus, Grim, and Cardini, but i can not use them because they are not limitless

[patent olive]

Why they dont add Ads to watch and get rewards 🤔

1 Stellar Token/1 Mystery Ticket/5 Jerry Can/1 Shovel/1 Treasure Compass

[dense lance]

I'm imagining my online ad experience and it translating into watching SOS ads inside SOS 😆

[mighty gorge]

God no. This would be my idea of a living hell. Having to play and watch ads to get rewards.

[patent olive]

Add it on P2P events not every events 😂 they will get revenue from ads, and imagine watch SoS ads on SoS game

[dense lance]

If it was optional for the events everybody hates for being paid only, might not be so bad, but I think it would likely become the only way to participate without paying...

[worldly sable]

Add ads upon entry into game

[mighty gorge]

Don't you start lol

[worldly sable]

Wait an extra 30 secs while you're being burned

[dense lance]

"We need to make King of the Hill crash more, the ad revenue is low"

[mighty gorge]

Login, ad, three banners to purchase something, then a popup to purchase something in the corner. Click intel, get an ad, receive 1 vehicle part, go do another intel, click fiends, get an ad, receive 1 fragment...

[dense lance]

The first half of that sentence makes me realize we already have ads...

[prime hound]

I personally wouldn’t want to watch ads for rewards but if watching the ad was optional then it might be ok

You could always submit in #📋︱feedback-reporting following #📋︱feedback-how-to

[grim steppe]

5 blue frags for watch 🙈

[mighty gorge]

I liked you, up until this point.

[dense lance]

only if we get an SOS ad for Rusty with the song "Macho Man" as the background as he dances

[prime hound]

I don’t always agree with the feedback but will assist anyway that I can

[grim steppe]

theoretically, I would like more music playing in the background. I found a playlist with sounds from sos on Spotify

[prime hound]

I would like my personalized theme song to play as I march attacking others 😂

[mighty gorge]

Is it weird, that in 4 years I've never played the game with any sounds on.

[prime hound]

Not weird at all. I always have mine turned off too

[grim steppe]

Seven Nation Army playing in the background

[analog nymph]

No weird at all, never have sounds on

[prime hound]

Sometimes I turn it on when there is a new hq skin. Because some of them make noise

[analog nymph]

I have tried sounds but didn't like them so off is better

[cosmic tulip]

The POW summit, made me permanently insure the sounds was switched off 🤣

[mighty gorge]

They are just so annoying. And even when you do have the sound off, you still get the clips that seem to ignore the fact I dont' want sound. I think there was an event recently, where every time you clicked it, sound on or off it still played a really annoying intro theme when you clicked on the banner

[prime hound]

That makes it hard to hide when at work

[still tapir]

I just realized they now have voice actors. Is this the reason the game is getting more expensive with this rng 💩?

[outer seal]

i feel very sorry for those who tried to secretly play during work and tapped pow summit

[cosmic tulip]

It would make sure everyone is awake in the office, that’s for sure….. or a give them a heart attack 🤣

[unkempt sun]

I definitely fell victim to that so much

[full pivot]

I would care more. But my boss has 10 million power and 2 legendary heroes, lucky and maddie. And he stole my wife

[digital glacier]

Funplus has their own website.
They have their own game.
They have had surveys in game.
Sos only cares about surveys that help generate more money
SOS should have surveys involving

1. If bugs were fixed would you be more inclined to spend money?
2. If sos were improved to provide less lag and a smoother gaming experience, would you be more inclined to spend money?
3. If broken formulas for resonating heroes were fixed, would you be more inclined to spend money? 😂
4. If we stop false advertising of bundles, would you be more inclined to spend money?
5. Do you enjoy playing koh?
   No. Only do it for migo.
   No. Too many bugs
   No. Boring
   No. Too many reason to list.
   No. All the above.
   Yes.
6. If bugs were fixed, would you be more inclined to participate in koh?
   Yes.
   No.

Etc etc etc.
Why is it so hard to do this?
Is it because it makes sense and that's why sos can't do it?

But then again.
They would probably have 500,000,000 bots vote on the survey to put the results in their favor.

Also.
Why don't we ever see the final results of the voting after the view ends? I mean, they would probably be fake anyhow 😂

[full pivot]

Definitely fake. I can't believe the votes sometimes.

[analog nymph]

Even the camp cafe community page you can see that its a lie, more voted positive side than negative side

[full pivot]

There's a massive queue forming now for that conversation with the devs

[unreal lichen]

And also keep submitting your feedback please in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[digital glacier]

I don't mean the community thing.
I mean the one from the guy walking around your annoying settlement.
It records your account so other character can't also vote on it as well. This will help somewhat limit the cheated double/triple/20 times vote results per account.

And they need to exclude players who have not played at least 3 months. Any person who plays 1 day thinks this game is super duper amazing, until some realize 3 months in the greediness of the company. Definitely hits most everyone at 6 minths. I think that's where a lot of their bad votes come from. People don't know. So they're like. Ok.
They probably thinking : Maybe if I click "I'm satisfied" it helps improve my chances to win some in game prize 😂

[digital glacier]

No. Your not Deleting program sucks

[unreal lichen]

I'm not sure I understand

[digital glacier]

You can submit it for me. I'm good. Not doing it in that format.

[analog nymph]

I know what you ment i have answered to those

[unreal lichen]

I don't think I have the appropriate level of sarcasm to adaquately post on your behalf and capture your meaning.

[digital glacier]

Who said any of that was sarcasm?

🙄

[humble spear]

Mufasa has to change his name to sarcasmo

[crystal iron]

[exotic forge]

Has anyone given feedback on throwdown troop tasks yet? Cause I just did the math on them in comparison to speed up tasks, and they're so busted even zip ties couldn't hold it together 🤣

[elfin ridge]

Hello Notorious, I haven't seen any current feedback regarding this task, only for Throwdown in overall: #📋︱feedback-reporting message

If you wish you can post your feedback in: https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606
You will find the correct format in pinned messages there 🤗 If you would need any help with this please feel free to let me know or any other mod.

[vagrant lance]

Do you honestly believe this? That the player feedback was the key factor due to which they decided to bring this back after being missing for 5 months???

Dang, they should stop trap and restart it a week after so we can say the feedback works, and even fast for that matter 🤷‍♂️

[exotic forge]

I reported it, thank you

[elfin ridge]

Thank you very much for the input and your time

[warped ruin]

this resident evil event was below criticism. it was actually 3 weeks of events out of 3 months, a week off, 3 weeks of events, which was its first three week repeat, only the icons were changed, and a 5 week break at the end.. how can capcom allow to sell such garbage with his name?

[stable cosmos]

Some of the events weren't. Also some weren't even really RE branded. Like we had lady D trap. It wasn't good but it was at least related. Next time round it was the sos behemoth skin, whats RE about that?

[gusty dove]

I love the % off calculations from the devs 🤣

im sure someone discovered this before, but its still funny 😬

[analog nymph]

All bundles are jokes

And still many buys those

[gusty dove]

If I would buy something, id buy the second one, especially after seeing the 1st one 😂

but the first one is more % off 🤔 🤣

[analog nymph]

I would choose the second too

[analog nymph]

Try looking the "special" offers there the % is even more off

[gusty dove]

i guess when their "special" offers overshoot 8,192%, then servers will crash 🤓

[raw breach]

Why still no state merger announcement. They informed last time after this migo ends. This is last week

[upbeat dew]

I hope we will hear about it very soon. I got you! Let's wait and keep check #⭐︱game_information

[still tapir]

Yes bundles are just a made up price. I like to think they have a spinning dart board and whatever the dart lands on is the “percentage” reduction😂

[gusty dove]

yeah, I was imagining they roll dice to determine the percent off value 😂

[wide wraith]

talking about the junk that goes in #⭐︱game_information do the Devs know nothing about zombies,
New Gameplay
Alliance Territory will finally get released this year!
Gather your Alliance Members for an awesome dance party!
Just NO has no part in the game

[still tapir]

Hey! Nothing wrong with a dance party😑

[wide wraith]

they can stick their dance party where the sun doesnt shine, there is no way that should ever have been suggested

[ember mantle]

Might be fun though

[wide wraith]

so while you are all dancing i will take all your rss using my tanks etc

[ember mantle]

I never have rss, it's a curse

[still tapir]

🤔 yep dancing seems best. You can try to take my rss though 😍

[wide wraith]

also in no zombie film/series do toy see the survivors holding a party

which idiot came up with that

[gusty dove]

so devs are innovative 😏

[ember mantle]

I do agree that in a zombie situation that dance parties do not seem advisable, however what is one more thing that has nothing to do with zombies, once you did the stock exchange you kinda jumped the shark

[still tapir]

Dawn of the dead had a party in the mall I’m sure. Both the old and remake.

[wide wraith]

it didnt end well as it draws in every zombie for miles around

[ember mantle]

Plus at least be open to the possibility of having fun, might not be bad at all, could have amazing rewards.. okay that last bit is the optimist in me

[wide wraith]

i know the Devs have the brains of a rocking horse but this is going too far

about as much fun as watching politics but you know it will involve buying packs

[still tapir]

No old one ended bad because Ruffins broke in and destroyed place. Remake I’m not sure. I’d rather forget that one

[gusty dove]

devs could also add a pink unicorn farm 😋

[ember mantle]

It could happen if you can find a unicorn

[wide wraith]

told my other rally lead (cant repeat their answer) but it was a hard no way in hell

[gusty dove]

once devs add it, everyone can find one unicorn frag.
and a furtune wheel with 10% chance for another frag, with actual odds of 1%

[wide wraith]

the entire plan for 2024 needs a rethink

[iron leaf]

I tried to read and find out why there is no MM this week, but I didn’t find it... could someone help me? 😇

[wide wraith]

Doomsday failed in 2023 (voted the worst event) and yet they want to bring it back

[rare snow]

They have stopped it for the time being, to update it

[ember mantle]

The way I am looking at it, if the event has good rewards, things I need, I would do a knitting event complete with rocking chair and a tabby cat. I dont care what they have us doing so much as what I will get from doing it

[wide wraith]

they stopped it to work on this stupid dance party idea

[still tapir]

Mm as of right now is no more. Might comeback revamped but who knows

[gusty dove]

they update an event? 😰
Noooo please 😱

[rare snow]

I honestly hate MM so… I had my own dance party when it was announced lol 😂

[iron leaf]

Sadly! Thanks!!! 🤗🤗

[wide wraith]

whats next state of farmville

[ember mantle]

I wouldnt say hate but a step down from that, yep I agree. Now if RR and Azertaine would vanish

[rare snow]

No!!!

I love both of them haha

[ember mantle]

Everyone loves RR except me sadly

[stable cosmos]

MM when the matching was good and without all the bugs it has, has the bones of a good event. It plays with the mechanics of the game and lets everyone take part. Can't join you can gather. You can rein a building if you're weak. It has lots of good points to it. It was just buggy and fup always mess up matching

[iron leaf]

Thanks

[wide wraith]

with all the crappy events they are planning to add, they will loose even more players

[ember mantle]

I get stuck sitting in a building the whole time and it's just sort of boring

[full pivot]

Zombies are the least of our worries in this game. You can't even call this a zombie game any more. It's like a genetically modified p2w game, with a few zombies in it

[rare snow]

I like burning everyone haha 😂

[wide wraith]

soon you will just dance with them

[ember mantle]

If I can get poly, plasma, or crystals I would dance party til dawn

[wide wraith]

you will probably have to spend it

[stable cosmos]

It won't offer that. Cheif xp, blue skill books. Hero xp and rss

[rare snow]

Oh I already am… they can’t do anything to me and I can’t do anything to them

[stable cosmos]

You know, stuff that matters in your first 2 weeks

[ember mantle]

Then I can pass on that dance party, same as I pass on Labyrinth

[gusty dove]

and rusty frags 😍

[rare snow]

[stable cosmos]

Can't forget the rusty frags.

[full pivot]

No joke. We got rusty frags for the new year celebration last year. I'm still waiting in anticipation for the ghost frags this year

[stable cosmos]

It could be sarge frags

[full pivot]

You're probably right

[rare snow]

Omg I have thousands of frags I can’t even recycle… stop with the free Travis frags already.

[wide wraith]

they have no ideas, just look around and decompile other games to steal the code, change the 10% needed to avoid copyright issues then call it a new event

[full pivot]

Well, maybe it was a bug generated from a bug. When they introduced limitless gen 5 rusty was the best infantry hero for a while

[ember mantle]

I wish they gave a free poly every day. Every time I think I am ready to start p13 I spend the plasma for the poly needed and slide back down to no longer can do it

[gusty dove]

thats a real thing? 😳

[full pivot]

No idea, but I still have the ss showing rusty more powerful than my latest gen hero at the time

[still tapir]

Same! I did even do the final MM but I wish I did since I’d like have enough parts to max my heli finally🤣😒

[rare snow]

The final was just a waste of time. If you can’t double rally then there is no point to even showing up against the beast of alliance that always seems to come out of no where

[stable cosmos]

They break the battle engine pretty regularly. Early wacko brought troops back to life iirc. That was less than amusing.

[ember mantle]

I've never managed to get past day 2 in MM, might change how I feel about it if I had

[copper mantle]

It even has a poisonous storm. Ah no. Sorry. Mist. It's mist. Nothing to see here. Move along. Move along now

[near juniper]

Hello!
Please don't forget that we are in SOS official discord, we shouldn't discuss other games here

[wide wraith]

then tell the Devs to stop cloning them or doing a crossover with one

[copper mantle]

My apologies. I was naughty. I shall edit myself. 🥰

[near juniper]

It's all good, mine was just a friendly reminder

[wide wraith]

as soon as the Devs linked up with another game, that rule because worthless

[wide wraith]

so does that mean any post which mentions Resident Evil needs to be deleted after all that is another game?

[near juniper]

We had an event in collaboration with RE, obviously it always depends on the context

[wide wraith]

so talking about "Dance Party" will be ok soon as thet want to bring that into SOS

[near juniper]

Everything related to SOS is more than welcome on this server, as long as respect the rules

[wide wraith]

this is a feedback discussion so comparative analysis is a part of feedback, maybe its time the rules were looked at again, because the game has made a mockery of the ones put here

a feedback/bug reporting system that fails on more points than Doomsday or KoTH

[near juniper]

As I said, everything depends on context and rules, if a player asks a question about Ada, Chris or Leon, heroes of the collaboration with RE, he is actually talking about something related to SOS

[wide wraith]

questions about heroes etc it not feedback, feedback is things like scrap the plans for 2024 as written,

99% of the so called feedback, is not feedback in the true definition of the word

[slim walrus]

I can understand what you are on about and you can suggest to change the rules.
You can either tell me (or any Co-Mod you prefer and we can forward your suggestions or you can go to https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1154385061978841148 and open a ticket.

And yes, we are here in the feedback discussion channel and we all are happy helping to forward feedback. SInce we are so many player with differnt languages and different points of view, not all is within the definition of the feedback. But in my personal opinion its great that all players ideas get a chance to get heard.

OMG i am sorry that was my autocorrection... i really hate my phone some times

[full pivot]

How else are we going to compare how greedy, corrupt, scamming, dirty, incompetent funplus are compared to other devs and games?

[analog nymph]

Feedback is this fp is crap, game is more and more crap every day and so on

[wide wraith]

things have been suggested and ignored because people in the older states couldnt care less about newer states, that or the CMs just lie and promote the Devs junk, we asked for CMs to be here more , how many times has that been the top voted for but its never mentioned, a slow down with events also totally ignored.
so tell e again whats the point of this channel

[full pivot]

Well guys, we released more expensive features than ever before in 2023. But no one was buying. Let's release even more in 2024, surely they'll spend again

[slim walrus]

I can understand your frustration and when you word it like you did and chose the right channel there are no reminder or anything. But the discord rules are clear about other games.

[full pivot]

FP and their genius logic

[full pivot]

FP tos

Sers

[slim walrus]

Sers?

I am sorry i dont understand...

[full pivot]

Saying it in one word would probably be against the dc rules again

[slim walrus]

Yes both is not rule conform... so lets keep it clean, as you correctly stated.

[full pivot]

Does that mean all mods should be banned for gaslighting, lying and being emotionally abusive to the players, by reinforcing the same lies FP tell us?

[wide wraith]

then how can you feedback that the pay 2 play model chosen by FP has been dropped by the most popular games and that SOS is nothing more than a thinly disguised cashino now

[slim walrus]

As i said before, i fully feel your frustration and understand it. But in #📋︱feedback-reporting our team inlcuding all the players that are taking part collect feedback which is forwarded to the devs. And discussing every feedback thats needed to discuss is the purpose in here.

[wide wraith]

bhut all feedback is not forwarded to the Devs only the most popular ones are

[full pivot]

Except that's where the problems are, we know from the past 4 years we don't get listened to. So now it's just a place to vent and make fun of how badly FP managed to fk things up for the players, and judging by their sales, themselves too. I hate to see the last part

[slim walrus]

I am sorry that you feel it like that. But all MODs are normal players that are here to help. No lying.

[stiff heath]

Just quit is easier.

[full pivot]

Except you know as a player that you are lying

[slim walrus]

I dont lie.

[near juniper]

No, we submit all the feedbacks and bugs,and we do everything we can to ensure that they are taken into consideration.
As Oasis said, we are players too, there is no reason of why we should lie. all the problems that players report, both as feedback and as bugs, we also encounter then in-game

[full pivot]

You do lie, you said feedback gets sent to the devs. We're telling you it doesn't. You tell us one way to change the game is to submit feedback, except we know it doesn't

That's just 2 lies

And if you tell us it does you're lying again...

[near juniper]

If you think that me or my co-mods are lying about something, #🚨︱contact_an_lmod feel free to contact one of the DLMODS here

[full pivot]

Yay, I've reached the final boss. Message a dlmod

[wide wraith]

the majority of us have been here too long to fall for the mod half truths, its not that your lying as such, just throw out the mod handbook and speak as a player

[stable cosmos]

So we've had the dl mods tell us, frequently, that all feedback, not just the top 10 is submitted. Top 10 is for the discord to rank the most important stuff. The bits in the channel are all, as far as we know, submitted. Its not the mods fault that the devs are beyond useless and provide nothing back

[full pivot]

If you know it's not the truth and you still say it that's the definition of lying

[stable cosmos]

They could be lying, but there is no real benefit to then lying about what they do with feedback.

[full pivot]

It is the mods fault for antagonising the players by insisting the things we've seen not to be true are true

Be a human being for once

Stop selling your soul to FP for a few items

[full rampart]

Hello Cyan! Mod team has a team that works on collecting feedbacks from all main channels, so even the chatter is collected

[stable cosmos]

Submission of the feedback and actions on the feedback are 2 different things. I'll gladly pull the mods up on the robotic handbook responses, but in this situation you really can't blame them for feedback not acted upon. Thats on the devs and the CMs

[slim walrus]

I really hope you didnt take me as a robot

[full pivot]

You misread it all then. I'm upset they insist on lying to us about where and what happens to feedback. And the fact they insist feedback is acted upon when we know it doesn't

[full rampart]

So the feedback is surely beeing submitted and we point out every week that players are not happy with the new features or bugs… but sadly that’s all we can do

[slim walrus]

As Tallie is saying, we collect them and its getting forwarded

[near juniper]

I don't work for KG or FP, anyone who knows me knows that I don't know how to lie, I really don't see any profit or benefit in lying, especially when it concerns topics that involve me too.
As mentioned by Tallie, Oasis and Cyan, we collect ALL the feedback we receive, across all platforms and channels, what happens next is not up to us

[full pivot]

They do their own thing. What happened to slowing down? They've not listened to anything the players are asking for. They've released more features more quickly and the result is more people have quit.

[vivid grove]

All feedback is sent to the DEV's via a google sheet. The sheet also contains links back to the original poster of the feedback. Every single feedback is recorded and placed on a google sheet. The CM's then look at the sheet and forward it to them. To add a bit more information if you see this emoji that feedback which might be incomplete has also been recorded and place onto the sheet.

[stable cosmos]

As long as you never say things like "we're players too" or "we understand your frustration" your mechanical status is not in question

[full pivot]

The sheet goes into the bin

[vivid grove]

Nope the sheet is a living document its never taken offline

[full pivot]

We all know it goes in the bin, even the mods

[slim walrus]

But i said both, and i meant both... i am a player... and i can understand you absolutely

[full rampart]

Please don’t say that I work hours on it everyday

[full pivot]

So if there's an active sheet it must be very easy to tell us how much of the feedback has been put in place, so tell us and prove feedback works

[feral heath]

[stable cosmos]

Actually we know nothing because its a 1 way street. Some feedback has been implemented. Not the way we always want but its there. Too much happens that wasn't in the feedback and nobody likes that garbage

Tactical emotes being an amazing example of "wtf asked for that"

[feral heath]

If I could change what I want to change - we would all be rich by now

[wide wraith]

the CMs look at it and then do nothing, they cant even be bothered to communicate with us about the feedback, the put in place a so-called Dev rep who is little more than a promotion bot

[vivid grove]

I've seen them in the sheets they then come to us and ask for clarity on things that they dont 100% understand through the CMs. I keep it open on my pc on my third monitor at all times.

[full pivot]

The numbers don't lie. FP have not listened to the players and people have quit as a result. Just look at the revenues

You can have a number of sheets with the most detailed feedback. But it doesn't get listened to, and hence people get frustrated and quit

[near juniper]

We all appreciate the work that you do everyday Tallie

[full rampart]

The reason why mods always ask everyone to submit to vote and to talk about the changes you want, is to keep pushing them your opinions…. And the reason we tell you they listen is because for us who spend hours in collecting, writing, submitting and sending, even a small small change makes us happy and gives us hope

[stable cosmos]

Id prefer some bigger changes sometimes.

Like the new throwdown needs a bigger change, i really want to belt whoever came up with the new stuff with a cricket bat

[full pivot]

That's your feeling, about things. The truth is not everyone thinks like you, although I'm sure a few will say they do now

[full rampart]

Any small thing I have saved because it makes me still going on… sometimes I’m more frustrated than you guys belive me…. I go through the losing people and through sending feedbacks both in the same times so I want to see the change also

[slim walrus]

I can fully agree with that! Me too... but i cant force it.

[full rampart]

Oh I understand… I just said I’m doing it for 5 months now and if I wouldn’t hang on of the changes I see I would have quit

[feral heath]

We cant change what of the Feedback gets listened to, but like alll other wonderful Co-Mods already said, we spend hours of collecting every single sentence that could be a Feedback from all kind of Channels in this Discord, everything after that, is beyond what we as mods can do.
We want to make everyone heard, we want to give voices. But we cant force someone to implement the Feedbacks, even if we would love to sometimes. Believe me. ❤️

[spice saffron]

Thanks for the clarification. I wanted to ask HOW our feedback actually gets submitted beyond Discord.

However, more interaction from the CMs is practical as well.

[stable cosmos]

Is there any chance we can make a change to the mod handbook? Some of the responses we get in there make me want to break things

[full pivot]

Well good luck, because you'll continue to lose people and feedback won't get listened to. It's too late without a massive overhaul. Way too late

[wide wraith]

the problem is we dont actually see answer to the feedback, maybe the system needs a change, when the Devs reply (if they do) they need to post the original feedback and then their reply

[feral heath]

Liiike what ?

[vivid grove]

The mods that work on everyone's feedback spend hours on it.

[stable cosmos]

"We are players too" throw that out

[feral heath]

I never got a Handbook

I feel betrayed now

[stable cosmos]

The line "i understand your frustration" is awful as well

[full pivot]

Not surprised. FP probably has a "handsheet" with a few phrases, because we hear them again and again

[full rampart]

Most tell it because we are🤣… I’m a weak player so that’s why I don’t tell my player name here I worked 3 years on my troops and I don’t want to lose them…. 🙈

[stable cosmos]

Its not a helpful comment

[slim walrus]

Thanks Tallie, i stated ot above... it wasnt a phrase i meant it

[full pivot]

Stop patting each other on the back too like it's a job well done. The job might be done but we see no results

[feral heath]

Im a human in the first place, not a Player. And thats why I make mistakes, like everyone else.
Thats why I have emotions, thats why I need hugs. ❤️

[vivid grove]

I promise you that the mods are just as upset as you are about a broken event. I almost threw my iphone yesterday when I was playing KOTH. We just say it a bit nicer.

[feral heath]

I forgot to save heros on my KOTH marches. I could only destroy zombies yesterday

my alliance yelled at me

[wide wraith]

the mods are left to face the anger of players but they are let down by the paid FP staff who dont care or understand

[full rampart]

We lost so bad I couldn’t even blame the lag 🤣🤣

[stable cosmos]

I never get to play koth anyway. Its not that they understand my frustration or not. A HUMAN response would be to agree or disagree, not management speak at me

[unreal lichen]

I'm actually a chat bot. You caught me.

[stable cosmos]

See thats human

[near juniper]

don't throw your iphone, you need it

[feral heath]

You are laughing about me ? - I was atleast strong enough to kill infected.

[fossil lark]

Sorry 😂

[slim walrus]

Sorry Aury, but you are really making me laugh

[unreal lichen]

That's what I thought this game was about when I downloaded it!

[stable cosmos]

When you guys act like people its fine, although sometimes overwhelming with like, 6 of you in here. Its when you do precisely what funplus wants that we get annoyed

[wide wraith]

been there and done that once, still came second in KoTH lol

[feral heath]

Now Im jealous ! I was 2nd last

[stable cosmos]

They breach their own rules frequently enough (see rustys language) you don't need to toe the line so hard

[full pivot]

They still are. Pretending everything is fine. I can't understand the dichotomy

It beggars belief

[full rampart]

I’m not a beggar sir I work full hours 2 jobs 🥲

[feral heath]

Well - I can either try to change something even tho its frustrating and costs a lot of time

or I can start crying 24/7

and I like to be happy, so Option 2 is no real option

[unreal lichen]

You'd get really dehydrated crying that much.

[full rampart]

This is only an help to my state because they are amazing people and I don’t want them to have to read some insults when they come to relax after work

[feral heath]

I didnt think about that !

Make sure I have enough coffee ❤️

[slim walrus]

☕ NOw?

[unreal lichen]

[full pivot]

This would actually be more useful and make you a decent person. Defending or working for FP in any capacity is tantamount to condoning their shady, scammy service

[stable cosmos]

I would like to point out that we've seen the derail the discussion thing before as well

[full pivot]

At least it will warn people what they're like

Would you recommend the game to friends and family? Hell no, I'd rather send them to a casino, because at least there are regulations and consumer protections there

[feral heath]

I do not defend anyone. Im here to help, well I atleast try to do that. And yes I think all of my Co-Mods spending a lot of their time in here to do exactly the same. Some would spend multiple hours of their Reallife in here to listen to each and everyone. And you know what ? Its super annoying if Events are broken or Feedbacks aint heard. But we do not give up. Not cause of the Devs, not cause of FP, cause we want to make the game experience better. For everyone. Most propably we cant. But giving up is nothing we wanna do...

[wide wraith]

as an example when i mentioned the terrible plan for 2024 revisiting failed events etc, no mod asked if they could help compose a feedback, they just moved the chat on to something else or just replyed to the latest post

[feral heath]

Im sure that this was not with a bad intention and just got missed. If you want to raise a Feedback, me or one of my Co-Mods happily assist you. ❤️

[full pivot]

Ye good luck. Remember the overwhelming amount of people asking for alliance duel to be removed?

[fossil lark]

I like Alliance Duel

[unreal lichen]

Nope I just remember the people asking for mm to be removed

[full pivot]

The cavalry horn has been blown. Must be mod derailment time

[feral heath]

I absolutely remember it. I know how many Feedbacks I and others collected. It didnt get removed, but the Changes that were made helped a lot to make it atleast better.

[full rampart]

I was one of them.. not the event itself but the troops….

[feral heath]

Since its almost midnight, I will head to bed now. I have to work tomorrow morning in my Reallife Job.
Here are enough wonderful Mods that are more then willing to help ❤️

Good Night everyone

[full rampart]

Good night Auraaa

[dense lance]

I was one of them. I do think that they've made it substantially less horrible, so that's a win. Consoling people who lost everything is much worse than consoling people who lost some RSS.

[wide wraith]

remember all the negative feedback when they ran Doomsday last year, all the upheaval around the so called bug that actually sent an in-game mail actually cancelling the event and not they couldnt even get 256 teams to take part because some seem to have forgotten it

[full pivot]

They don't listen

We didn't even know how it worked and had no information at all. We didn't even know we'd be locked in an alliance for 2 months

[wide wraith]

but we are supposed to believe feedback works

[full pivot]

The whole thing was a 💩show

But hey, at least they had an interview with the winning whales, I mean ordinary players

[full rampart]

My only question is what are you guys proposing or what do you think we should do? What ways would make you feel better?

[wide wraith]

didnt even do that

[full pivot]

Ah ye, that was path of water

[full rampart]

So there is nothing we can do to improve it?

[full pivot]

I can tell you what's good about it, it's rr which most people like. That's all

[wide wraith]

go back to the drawing board, actually talk to players before they try to add stuff, ask what the players actually want

[full rampart]

It’s my favorite event also…

[full pivot]

Then tell us the problems you have with rr

[full rampart]

So my question is isn’t it what mods actually do now? You you are referring only to devs?

[full rampart]

None to be honest, the only think I don’t like is sometimes games chose the 3rd option and it was eather 5am for me or 1am for my rally leaders 🙈

[wide wraith]

it never has been about what the mods do, its what the paid staff dont do thats the main issue

[full pivot]

What's the difference? 2sides of the same coin, using the same system we know doesn't work. Pretending feedback will get listened to when it's probably already too late to make changes. Amd even if changes could be made, we know from past experience they'll just introduce some bugs to go with it

[full rampart]

Ok I understand now… I can’t make any promises on this, I can only make promises on something I can do personally…

[full pivot]

Really? So no feedback on problems with rr at all on the spreadsheet?

[full rampart]

Beeing honest with you I’m sorry I can’t share those but we have: improve matchmaking in rr and time slots beeing bad… you asked what my personal problem with rr was, I personally didn’t have problems with matchmaking and I’m greatful for this

[fossil lark]

I have a question. What is your problem with the mods here? They do their job, and they do it well. So it's bad when they say that they understand the frustration, that they also mention in passing that they are just players who have a real life besides the game and are still mods here where they spend a lot of time? They listen, try to help, help write feedbacks and bug reports. This is far more than what the devs do. And now they are the bad guys for that?

[wide wraith]

matching and turning into an unfair tournament is the issues with RR/Doomsday

[full pivot]

Are you a mod too? Don't tell me, the answer is no

[fossil lark]

I'm not

[full pivot]

🙄

[fossil lark]

But I'm lurking here often. And today I really need to laugh
Absolut nonsense how you talk to the Mods

[full rampart]

I belive they are mad for the things going on in game, I don’t think I bothered them personally, or I hope I didn’t 😊

[wide wraith]

the issue is, we have no-one else to vent on, CMs are nowhere to be seen, so the Mods become the target, yes its unfair but its the system we have now

[full pivot]

I'm not the only one who feels like this. You may feel it's nonsense but there's a process they follow and deliberatel midlead and lie to the players, not maybe all of them but some do

[fossil lark]

Look, and you follow the system instead to say, oh it isn't the fault from the Mods

[dense lance]

You can complain about the game without being rude to the mods. And if they ask if you'd like to submit feedback, this is a channel for developing and submitting feedback. If you just want to complain maybe in #🆘︱sos_discussion at least would be on topic.

[wide wraith]

I try not to be rude to them, but i worked for FP as a streamer so i know how they work or should i say dont work

[full pivot]

When you get lied to by FP and the same lies get reinforced by the mods of course I'm angry. I'm thoroughly angry

[wide wraith]

but complaining is feedback

[fossil lark]

Mods can only provide the information they receive from the devs. Why don't you write an e-mail to KG or FP instead of blaming the mods? The people here aren't even paid to bring this up half the day. Just being a bit grateful that someone is even listening wouldn't be wrong I think

[full pivot]

They are paid

[full rampart]

I am 100% sure nobody wants to lie to players… I don’t think anyone says oh I’ll become a mod and lie to the community… if we keep saying to submit feedbacks is because we belive in them… or at least myself and as I specified I don’t expect you to belive me or anything… I don’t except all feedbacks to be implemented… some people asked for a Toe HQ and an unicorn one…. So I keep pushing things i belive in 😂😂 please don’t vote for these feedbacks with wierd hqs

[wide wraith]

trying that, still waiting for a response

[full pivot]

Let's not lie about them getting no compensation for the work

[dense lance]

If there's unicorn HQs I'm interested. 💖

[full rampart]

The words you guys use as they are paid make it sound like mods can sustain their families from this… and we all know this is absolutely nothing related to the reality

[near juniper]

Hey! I want Unicorn's HQ

[fossil lark]

They are? You saw the Bank statements?

[full rampart]

I work two jobs and still live with my mom 🙈🤣🤣🤣🤣

[full pivot]

You do know compensation doesn't have to be monetary right?

[near juniper]

If I was getting paid for this, I would have already bought a house and quit my job 😂

[full rampart]

Which btw I know most you don’t care.. but tomorrow is the start of my new job at a great clinic

[ember mantle]

Some of y'all would have so much over time you could retire next week no matter how old you are

[wide wraith]

thats why i always say paid staff, mods are compensated for giving their time which is different from6 being paid

[near juniper]

my bank keeps texting me "you have an outgoing transaction", as if I didn't already know

[ember mantle]

Congratulations

[dense lance]

Angels and saints watch over you, and congratulations

[full rampart]

Thank you 🙏🏻💕 I worked hard for this opportunity I’m really excited

[near juniper]

You will doing great as always

[fossil lark]

Congratulations

[ember mantle]

Hey I will take the angels and saints!!! I truly believe in blessings. Thank you for it and may you and yours be blessed as well

[dense lance]

Angels for all 🤗

[full rampart]

Also this has another personal meaning for me… you just proved me something 🥹

I shall jump fast in your dm to tell how much it meant ❤️

[wide wraith]

this all comes down to the lack of communication from the "paid" staff who work for FP

[stable cosmos]

Perhaps we can have the dev responses wind up in the big spreadsheet? We've had an earlier comment that the CMs have been in it, assuming this system even 30% functions they pass that on. Can they pass the answer back in the spreadsheet?

As an addition you said "elaborate" was a thing, are you guys also doing the elaboration or working with others to elaborate?

[dense lance]

A more effective way to handle that is the fact that now, again, "listen to the playerbase" made it to the top feedback, keep making that happen until they do, under the terms set up they respond to the most upvoted feedback. Make that the feedback over and over.

[stable cosmos]

Cos either my feedback is perfect and never needed extra explaining, or the elaboration aspect is mod driven

[full rampart]

Is not about beeing perfect, if mods understood what are you asking they wouldn’t reach you out to ask. And I belive you made yourself clear everytime with things you don’t like

[stable cosmos]

The elaborate question comes from the cms? Devs? I'm interested how that is developed?

[full rampart]

I didn’t see any feedback improve (blank) … I don’t like (blank) so it always has an event and a request

[ember mantle]

To add although I am not part of the feedback team I know when I dont understand I ask a bunch of questions before posting feedback and even when I am sure I got it right have taken to asking that it be checked and if it is right that it be upvoted by the person giving the feedback to me

[stable cosmos]

Big spreadsheet questions here, not to do with the channel itself. This, assuming they're asking these questions is feedback on feedback which is sorely needed, I'm hoping when they ask for more info that is being player driven and not just mod driven, but i can't tell

[cosmic tulip]

If all feedback is correlated on a live excel spreadsheet and fed back to the CM/ Dev’s, is the top 10 an illusion? How is it differentiated?

[full rampart]

I’m really sorry if I don’t make sense or if I don’t answer 100% on what your question was about, when they ask for more info is because they are not clear what players dislike for exemple there were some comments with I don’t like …. Without an explanation what exactly is the thing they don’t like in certain event

[vale yoke]

To be fair, sometimes it's the event as a whole, but I can see how it is helpful to add clarity.

[full rampart]

Feedback reporting goes to one channel, info form the channels goes to another channel, all gets sorted, and top 10 is the sum of all the votes or comments in a week… if this makes sense 🙈

[stable cosmos]

Yes i understand that. But when they ask for extra info how is that info collated and delivered? Do the mods make it up or work with the person who made the feedback?

[vale yoke]

Good info here, btw, Tallie. It helps us to know this stuff which, with luck, will also help the mods feeding it back

[stable cosmos]

Or just ask questions here? You've put yourself in the middle which means we need to hear how it functions

[full rampart]

I personally reached the player if I didn’t find the information given up or down below what our mods collected… if you say you u don’t like rr but above like 10 lines you explain your horrible experience in rr, I would take that,.. if I didn’t see any explanation from you I would reach out

[stable cosmos]

Ok thank you. Thats what i was after and i hope all the other mods do either the same or take it further

[full rampart]

Remember that is impossible that only one mod collect so there are a lot who you don’t see everyday here but this doesn’t mean they don’t work… you also see the feedback hunter emoji or the 🗒️ emoji

[vale yoke]

Can vouch for that. I have been reached out to on many occasions regarding commentary here and whether or not it could be fed back, phrasing, etc. I found it very helpful for the one-on-one aspect of it, which made it easier as a concerned player to make my thoughts known.
Sometimes when discussing here, things feel like they can get lost or it's hard to really get to the nitty gritty without ten other voices.

[stable cosmos]

I got it once when my feedback was very sweary. I think it was about sotf. My explanation was fine, calling the devs moneygrubbing filth weasels less so

[vale yoke]

Ah yeah

Lol

[full rampart]

We often reach from the feedback reporting ones if we don’t understand what they meant… some don’t always answer us indeed 🙈😂

[dense lance]

The devs likely deserved it if it's about the SOTF changes, in the first batch 😆

[cosmic tulip]

I see. So the most voted is top ten but the feedback that has “feedback hunters emojis” and the feedback mod state they will forward but doesn’t go to the voting channel is put on this live document and sent separately.

[stable cosmos]

Sotf still annoys me tbh

[fossil lark]

More than Throwdown?

[ember mantle]

Throwdown became my annoyance

[stable cosmos]

No. Nothing is eever as bad as throwdown

[vivid grove]

Not even close. If we were paid employees we wouldnt need to ask you guys the players for screenshots of new items in game. We at times do not even know when an event is going to end.

[vale yoke]

It happens, but the fact that mods even still reach out to me to clarify, knowing I'm a walking dictionary means that they're not just accepting things as they are. The mod team does want to help, and they're using whatever they can to help us raise our issues in a clear, concise manner in the devs language

[full rampart]

No no…. Top 10 is a sum of both… we send a lot of other reports 🙈but top 10 is a mod worst nightmare because you need to collect EVERYTHING from EVERYWHERE related to that topic

[dense lance]

The SOTF changes (originally) were much worse than Throwdown, and Throwdown deeply offends me.

[ember mantle]

I firmly believe that no one in this community really dislikes mods or the job we do. Some of you guys are amazing and defend us. We are here everyday with you because we care as well. We just walk a different path, one that comes from hope and optimism. Which frustrates some and makes y'all defend us some more, its a cycle

[vale yoke]

I feel like, when the devs mess with events, they do too much. We ask for a change in rewards to reflect our state ages, and they completely shift the points structure or change thresholds.
We ask for simple things most of the time and they go ham with them, causing their own issues.

[fossil lark]

That sounds so ecclesiastical 😅
But yeah

[ember mantle]

Sorry you might say God is the family business

[full rampart]

I could never express my words so good like her 🙈😂

[dense lance]

I think their new thing for that stuff is to make outrageous changes and then slowly walk them back until the screaming stops. That's why I encourage people to complain, they're deliberately toeing the line.

[fossil lark]

No, i just needed to smile a bit "hope and optimism"
But you're right 😊

[vale yoke]

Agreed. When I post feedback or find good stuff here I am actively pushing it other spaces as well.

[cosmic tulip]

Ah, thank you for answering. Sadly that seems like a tiny amount the dev’s actually focus on in comparison to all the feedback people offer. Specially as it’s a moment in time.. Something big happens and will overtake another vital bit of feedback that would improve our game play.

[dense lance]

You needed 1 million points I think to clear stage goals for the day

[slim walrus]

Oh yes i remember... i happily refused remembering... now you refreshed my memory... that was horrible

[dense lance]

I'm sorry for making you relive that 🤗

[vale yoke]

Okay all, I've had a really long day at work, so enjoy the conversation. Thanks again to Tallie for giving us some insight.
Gonna go find something to slap around for a bit.

[dense lance]

It's a good example, though, the outrage on here is what helped get that nerfed before it got to the non-test states.

[full rampart]

Sometimes there are a lot of things that we want changed and even if one small does we don’t always notice it because there’s a lot more that needs changing…. I’m really happy whenever I see something small changed because I see they read

[slim walrus]

Nah,you are good. But some changes where really horrible in the past years and this was sure one of it... I had saved stuff and was like stage 1 with all i had in my backpack and after the repair i was in the top10 bcs others were smarter and waited

[full rampart]

I might tell that in my first week there I met a dev in the sheets and I was slightly wondering if I’m doing something wrong 🤣🤣🤣… he was reading where I was and somehow keep moving down in the same time I did 🙈

[stable cosmos]

Met a dev in the sheets? Scandalous

[full rampart]

In your first week you would wonder if you destroyed anything 🤣🙈

[mighty gorge]

[frozen plank]

omg that reminds me of my first week

[olive sluice]

<@&628563208164081690>s : when you close a server event with stories (or hero poems like this time), it's pretty sad that you hide the channel. All the interesting stories are kinda lost now...
Why not make it read only for another month?

huh, why is this tag being activated? It didn't show during typing, sorry 😄

[tidal apex]

Last goal in TD used to be 15k or am I remembering it wrong? Please let it be wrong... Please tell me they did not lower final goal just for measly one k points from 15k to 14k just to say "we listen to feedback" :p

[topaz mountain]

That's a good idea. I didn't get to read them. 🙈 I will ask.

[topaz mountain]

I'm looking back to a feedback report from November and it looks like the required points have been cut in half and rewards increased. I'm not sure from the last TD 2 weeks ago, but it has been improved.

[tidal apex]

I do not mean migo requirements but indivodual points meeded to grab all TD rewards

[mighty gorge]

That report related to the migo points.

[topaz mountain]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message This is the one I was looking at.

[mighty gorge]

Shirosei is talking about the reward level points in the tiers

[tidal apex]

Migo with 7.5k points needed is fine, now if only they would do the same to point tier rewards 😒

[mighty gorge]

Also it's highly unlikely that report is aligned

I could go into it all and the history, but its not an improvement

[topaz mountain]

From this report, e.g., level 16 required 1,600,000 alliance points and 20,800 solo points. Now it requires 720,000 alliance points and 10,000 solo points. Are we talking about different things?

I'm not saying it doesn't need improvement still but I do see that it has changed.

[mighty gorge]

Agreed. It changed, but it was actually better before they screwed with it. So while it's better than before it's not overall an improvement

[topaz mountain]

I can agree with that. I miss the old TD as well.

[mighty gorge]

They overcomplicated it, when all they had to do was simply update the items in the rewards

[tidal apex]

They strangely always feel as if updating rewards to more needed items means they also must make event 10 times harder 😒

[stable cosmos]

Yes. They lowered it by 1000 points. Me finding that out correlates exactly with my feedback report about throwdown

I just want it back to the normal 4200. There was nothing wrong with 4200. Although they'll need to change all the tasks back too please. Hate the new "exclusives"

They're worth less than the equivalent solo tasks and they're actually super limiting

[topaz mountain]

I was just looking at your feedback report. Yes, I miss the old troop training!

[tidal apex]

New troop training is just ugh...

[stable cosmos]

I don't do that one

[tidal apex]

It used to be most contested task, now noone wants to pick it up 🤣

[stable cosmos]

99% can't do 14k either

[topaz mountain]

The suggestion has been noted and will be reviewed with the powers that be to see if it's possible.

[full pivot]

The powers that be say no

[stable cosmos]

I'd rather not go through the torture. Just do the end result which is a score of about 6000 if they don't change any of the current tasks

[north moss]

Please keep the gifs in memes and gifs channel. Thank you

[astral trail]

now? we do this since 2 years...dont need to call out DYZ or FBI state -.-

[astral trail]

f2p dont get any bundles....

[full pivot]

That's because they don't exist in the eyes of FP

[olive sluice]

FEEDBACK:
Dino rallies are broken. 😒
A half filled rally results in much more points per player than a full rally... 🤪 🙄
So the game either forces us to kick players from rallies, which kills the alliance, or to lose rewards because we rank lower.
Which smartass designed that in a game which is only held together by the social aspects??

[wooden dew]

Hi White Wolf, I hadn’t noticed that before. That’s really strange. Unchanged it would probably lead to some inter alliance problems, if it hasn’t already. Thanks for catching that. I’ll forward it.

[stable cosmos]

I just noticed it too. Thats messed up

[unreal lichen]

It’s pretty much always been like that. 2 or 3 joiners is better than a full rally.

[outer seal]

nothing was improved, we just got worse TD, with more boring tasks to do. i'd better have old TD back, no idea why it was needed for the devs to spoil this event. it's not improvement, when they slightly change some numbers in already done bs

[stable anvil]

Why does the migo skill total mobilization makes t11 troops when i have unlocked and made t12. And it specifically saying recruits the highest level unlocked. Gosh some crappy coding

[olive sluice]

did you unlock the individual troops or only the chief talent?

[olive sluice]

yeah, but it's extreme now! Factor 1.5-2x

because then whales wouldn't spend 10k for them...

[outer seal]

i think they just don't understand own game, becuase are not bothered to play it

[unreal lichen]

Even big spenders can’t unlock Angelica and Selina 😂😂

[olive sluice]

it must be exclusive to the mega spenders to make the psychology work

[outer seal]

with the current dev team

[olive sluice]

SoS is a shop with an attached casino and a few games. Not the other way

[unreal lichen]

I score more doing solo than a rally no matter how many joiners. Total points of solo is higher than entire points of rally.

[olive sluice]

That's such a crap..

[outer seal]

whole this event is crap, they could make it at least not limited the time when you can play, there is no any reason to do it, except of to screw players

[olive sluice]

true.. it's more boring than trap

It could be a little team event if the scoring wouldn't be so screwed

and the march times could be 10 seconds, that would be enough

[outer seal]

old trap was ok, when rewards depended of top damage dealers, it was enough to hit once, but devs want us to have our half hour of boriness every 2 days

[olive sluice]

I play 1 round of trap with all marches, then the others I start my rally and join a few which don't fill up.. enough for full rewards.

[outer seal]

for 4,4b dmg?

[olive sluice]

yeah

In the other alliance where we are all F2P and a few very low spenders I need to play 3 rounds with 5 marches to hit the max

[unreal lichen]

I just start 5 rallies. Don’t join any. Get between 5 and 6 billion. I don’t waste my rally buffs on trap 😅😂

[olive sluice]

using Gen 15 I have to say

No buffs

You aren't a farmer, Kenny 😄

There are so many ways to kill a game.. FunMinus knows all of them!

[wooden dew]

Hi AbbyJr, to echo what White Wolf said - those fragments are not made accessible to F2P players (yet) as doing so would remove the exclusivity they provide to those who obtain them via spending at the time of release. In time however, they’ll more than likely become obtainable through free means. An example of this would be behemoth skin fragments, which initially were only obtained via top up rewards but later were made redeemable through the winter event store. When that will happen is unknown, but I agree - being able to accumulate them sooner rather than later would be great. Thanks for mentioning it! I’ll forward it.

[stable cosmos]

Thats actually a terrible mentality to have. Exclusivity just means there are haves and have nots. It doesn't drive a good game. What does is haves and doesn't have yets. Knowing you can earn something strong through normal gameplay is way better than hoping it shows up eventually

[stable anvil]

Not the one from t12 but from migo

[olive sluice]

yeah, then it seems like another bug

[digital glacier]

I just got a look at the new battle report style. 🙈
I hate having to click "more details" to see stats directly.
And why cant
Damage vs shielded or whatever it's called be shown side by side. Why we need only see 1 big pie graph at a time.

[olive sluice]

cause devs don't play the game. They have no idea what works. Just make it look colorful.

[outer seal]

i never seen a game with so many problems, where devs are always in a big hurry to make new and new problems, instead of to fix existed. and guys are not shy to call this as improvements

[frigid vault]

Do you have full t12?
Or to be more specific you have t12 hunters?

[stable anvil]

All t12 are unlocked

Just did them previous week

[frigid vault]

So I have no idea

[outer seal]

guess guys who did that skill don't know there are T12 already

[frigid vault]

I get t12 no problem

[stable anvil]

That why i said do we have color blind devs that dont know what green and blue are for roxy statue

The roxy preview for lvl 5 to 9 is blue then it changes at 10. But my current lvl 9 is green ring around the HQ. SOME SIMPLE coding but they are too stupid to fix

[outer seal]

this is not even coding, just changing the color in editor, few minutes job to do

[stable anvil]

Yeah when it was brought up in our alliance we thought it was a new statue that we didnt get

Going through all statue preview to having to go to the person island to see which statue are lvl 7 and up

[digital glacier]

Share a picture of your t12 tree.

[stable anvil]

All 3 on the right are almost the same with the exception of the general one

[digital glacier]

Goto help and support
Self service tools
And check infantry changes
Or Rider
Or Hunters
Etc.
It'll look like my line 3.
Roughly 🤣
I only have t12 hunters so all 500 go there.

Decoration skills line 2
That's the t12 research of chief section for recruiting troops.

[nova jetty]

I'm unhappy with the new setup as well . All the extra steps are annoying. Could you take a map ment and add your thoughts about it to #📋︱feedback-reporting . Perhaps some new ideas will inspire them to improve it.

[upbeat dew]

Hi hi, it is a bug if you open all your T12 but you get all T11. It has been reported before for some players get this bug as you can see at here #🐞︱bug-reporting message

Please open ticket to CS and report the bug so they can fix it for you as soon as possible

[stable cosmos]

Gonna have to raise this again. I'd prefer they solved throwdown first

[stiff ether]

That is not so bad tbh😄

[stable cosmos]

Its not the worst I've had, its still pretty awful

Heres an insulting one

[stiff ether]

Yup, That’s awful.

[vernal moss]

I think instead of just adding in extra rewards like they have done, some items needs to be revisited and appropriately upgraded. These purple fragments are completely obsolete now, the old recycling events used to favour these fragments but since they removed it and replaced it with a watered down version that’s permanent it needs some appropriate upgrades.
With the books and hero badges, they’re obsolete but they do still provide skin tickets, just need improving.

As much as this has been posted I don’t think it’s been shown any light in a while. If you have a moment I’d highly recommend in #📋︱feedback-reporting , cyan.

[spice saffron]

Cyan already has the feedback, and I upvoted it as well 👍

[stable cosmos]

3rd times the charm maybe...

[vernal moss]

You made very good points and that’s a big quality of life change to the little things. You have my support

The only thing I can see why this wouldn’t be considered is because many players may have a lot of these maps saved and might be a huge disadvantage for anyone who used them in the past. Thus another outraged playerbase; just like effortless progression~

[stable cosmos]

The only people it disadvantages are f2p who have spent all their maps for some reason. And f2p are always disadvantaged

[vernal moss]

You’re not wrong, unfortunately

[terse agate]

Why can’t I collect my personal rewards for TD again?
Same happened last TD

[nova jetty]

Has your alliance reached the required points for the level you are trying to claim ? They seem to be connected now . I can never claim my personal ones until the alliance reaches the points too.

[terse agate]

The first row should not be linked to the alliance progress

[nova jetty]

Unfortunately I think it is . I could only claim mine when the alliance reached it even for the first one. It's really annoying .

[terse agate]

Was never like that. Last TD it was at start and they fixed it halfway

[nova jetty]

You can put a ticket in to customer service to see if it's a bug or just the way they are doing it now . Do you know how to access the bug menu for customer service?

[terse agate]

I do, but I am already late for work 🤣😂

[nova jetty]

I will see what I can find out for you then and dm you the answer when I hear back . Now go to work ! Real life first!

[terse agate]

No RL allowed when playing SoS 😉🤣😂🤣

[nova jetty]

They allow you to go to work , you have to make the money to buy bundles after all.... Have a great day !

[merry scroll]

Hey, we will check the detailes rules for the upcoming Doomsday Open season and let people know the result in advance.

[unreal lichen]

@merry scroll

Why are you scamming us?

Where is HQ skin?

[merry scroll]

sorry, scamming? what do you mean...

[unreal lichen]

It's sotf crate and game shows HQ skin crate when the sotf is here

[steel musk]

it wrote in event details.. when soft end, they convert keys to crate but not include hq skin

[unreal lichen]

My bad then sorry

[wide wraith]

it was a total failure last year. why are Devs not listening to feedback and putting Doomsday in the bin where it belongs. Last Year they couldnt even get 256 teams to take part. What makes then think that this time will be any different

@merry scroll @feral sinew you need to tell the Devs that nothing in the content preview for 2024 is inspiring, and will do nothing to stop players leaving the game

not everyone likes Survival royale and how many want a tournament for it

[stable cosmos]

No f2p will care about a tourney. Heck i only joined the pow tourney for the entry prizes, never got to play a game in it. Did make it clear to my team that this would happen

[mighty gorge]

I appreciate that this is just your opinion, but this is actually a counter productive business model and not at all how monetization of mobile games (and other games) work or indeed incentivise people to stay. I could wax lyrical about all the virtues and pitfalls of this, but safe to say "Exclusivity" doesn't work; it alienates the player base as people simply feel they have no mechanism to achieve items in game, whether immediately (paid -as this affects low and mid spenders too) or in the future (free to play). The concept as I've said a few times is simple, paid content is to aid progression not to create an us and them scenario which is what FP have created as a result of this ever increasing gap between different dynamics.

[stable cosmos]

Added to the above there is no sensible system for those left behind to catch up on any outdated features. Troll squad is probably the big one. But plenty of other features are hard to access. No idea what the plan for completion chips is. Those aren't available ANYWHERE except the explorer missions

[mighty gorge]

Its almost like they need some kind of external consultation and review, because whatever path that FP are on, its the wrong one.

[stable cosmos]

I think the pandemic success went to their heads.

[mighty gorge]

Small time outfit that struck lucky and now think they can play with the big boys.

[stable cosmos]

Iirc their older games are similar and currently kept aloft by addicts

Believe the desire is to have 6-8 states made of whales and nothing else

[mighty gorge]

If that is the case, they will come unstuck very quickly

[stable cosmos]

Sadly not fast enough as their older games are still running. Whether people playing those are happy is a different matter

[mighty gorge]

Even the CM's have zero interest in their community, look at above Saberlot says one thing, then disappears again. Just another example as to how they have no concept of roles, responsibilities and how managing a customer base works

[stable cosmos]

The CM hamdling of this discord drives me batty. Even if they have other games assigned i don't think they have enough to warrant so little time here

[mighty gorge]

There is a lot that grates on me, because it gives the industry a bad name. I'm passionate about what I do and the respect I garner as a result of my experience, but nothing I've seen here would make me want to employ some of these people, and that even includes up to their senior leadership team. Most would be swallowed up and spat out in large corporate businesses as being incompetent.

[stable cosmos]

They'd be spat out of just about anywhere.

[mighty gorge]

I work with different levels, from senior stakeholders down to developers and I'm astounded at most of what goes on.

[stable cosmos]

The only reason they don't spit themselves out is because they also answer to themselves. Everything is regrettable but we're only human and moving forwards we'll make sure to leverage our skills to provide a more engaging product

[mighty gorge]

Marking their own homework as is said.

A+

[stable cosmos]

I'm sure some of that has been said and if you're playing at home its probably on the corporate jargon bingo

A+ goes against company branding. F+ surely 🤣

[mighty gorge]

FailPlus 😛

[stable cosmos]

Gonna fail, do it positively

[mighty gorge]

or if I was 'down with the kids' - PhailPlus

[stable cosmos]

Can't do kids talk. Only horrendous corporate jargon

[mighty gorge]

Think outside the box? Art of the possibile?

Not trying to boil the Ocean?

[stable cosmos]

That sort of gibberish yes. I'm very good at writing it. Once had a top level manager congratulate me on a sentence with so many words that said almost nothing

[mighty gorge]

These are common where I work.

Pick the Low Hanging Fruit is another one

[stable cosmos]

Moving forwards i find to be most common

[untold chasm]

Feedback, it would be great if they could not send out updates less than 30min before a heist. Or at all when there is events happening on very specific times, which will be forfeited when not being able to get online on a specific time. For a while they stopped doing that, guess they forgotten again. 🙄

[wide wraith]

any updates should have a mail telling you they are there rather than just happening at random times

if they did the job properly in the first place they wouldnt need so many updates

[olive sluice]

Another example that FunMinus doesn't think through any of their designs:
The KotH button and since this week the AH button annoy us with constant popups about a missing registration. But when you are registered and the event acually starts, the AH button is silent, so it's easy to miss it.. 🤡

[thorn axle]

Hello there syl, You are welcome to put it into #📋︱feedback-reporting with the format from #📋︱feedback-how-to players that feel the same as you will be able to upvote your feedback

[untold chasm]

Thank you Young Guard, I appreciate it 🤗 I'm a bit tired now, I arranged my lunchtime around this, it's pretty hard work trying to have enough time to do events, particularly when you have more than one settlement you care about. Feedback, tickets etc. I think a whole lot of people have passed roads end, probably a couple of years ago. We say about the same things over and over again, hundreds sometimes thousands of times. It just doesn't matter. Sometimes I do all the hops, but that's about 1 of 10 times or something. But I appreciate you responding ❤️

[thorn axle]

I totally understand you, if you like I could send you a dm and I could type up the feedback for you and post on your behalf

[untold chasm]

That would be very kind if you feel you have the time🤗

[mighty gorge]

For some reason, the tune "I need a hero" entered my head.

[stable cosmos]

Mine is constantly circus music when it comes to fup

[mighty gorge]

Normally its Magic Roundabout for me lol, but reading that conversation just now. It felt very much that way.

[thorn axle]

Am I the hero in this story?

[mighty gorge]

You are lol

But, you're still not back on my Christmas Card list

[thorn axle]

😭

I have a year to atone

[cosmic tulip]

New reports are interesting. Not a fan of the green font colour in overall comparison details tab. Even a cropped SS makes my eyes hurt 🫣

[still matrix]

Hey chief, We can submit a feedback to let the devs know what should be changed, All the suggestions are highly appreciated 😊

[vale yoke]

It wouldn't be so bad if it had a darker border around the text, at the very least

[still matrix]

Yes I agree, text is kinda hard to see

[cosmic tulip]

The green else where is fine, it’s just here that needs a slight tweak.🫣

[vale yoke]

I would think it's common sense that when your light colored text is against light colors, you include a dark outline so it can be read lol but that's just logic, and we don't employ that here

[still matrix]

I'll submit a feedback about this🤗