dnd-discussion

[prime basin]

you use a bonus action to shift but you don't have to use a bonus action to disengage like a horse or a rogue and also don't provoke opportunity attacks making you immune to sentinel

[hollow stone]

wait there's a deer statblock that doesn't provoke opportunity attacks?

[blissful ibex]

it's very funny, because my druidlock eventually gets Gift of the Depths, so all of her wild shape forms can't breathe underwater and have a swim speed equal to their normal speed

[humble cairn]

2024

[blissful ibex]

Yes, the base one in the 2025 monster manual

[hollow stone]

oh, what CR is it? is it a valid Find Familiar?

[blissful ibex]

cr0, yes

[prime basin]

"Water doesn't exist in my dnd world"

[hollow stone]

oh that is so cool

[humble cairn]

0 and yes, and it's medium so Small characters can ride it.

[meager fractal]

oh deer

[hollow stone]

"all of the water has been replaced with gatorade. we are in a post Idiocracy Apocalypse setting."

[humble cairn]

Too real

[woven flint]

This is just real life, wdym? Lmao

[prime basin]

G-fuel*

[rough basalt]

Gatoraaade

[prime basin]

"rations in this world look like the roundmeal...for anyone who doesn't know what that looks like search it up"

[hollow stone]

oh this is an amazing innovation, thank you

[meager fractal]

Moon Druid using a wildshape specifically to turn into a deer and escape opportunity attacks is super funny to me brought you by Carl's Jr.

[blissful ibex]

only 11 strength so a carry weight of 165, but that's easily a small character

[woven flint]

Dhampir Moon Druid leaves wildshape to bite you (that's what my fella did once lmao)

[hollow stone]

does Reborn assume the size of its previous species? it would be funny to have a Reborn Small Warlock whos equipment theoretically weighs nothing because it would doesn't exist and whos steed is a deer they found

[prime basin]

I made a dhampir bloodhunter with a custom subclass that literally heals or buffs you when you land an attack while also at the same time debuffing the enemy you are attacking

lineages are amazing

I just wish they fleshed them out more lore-wise

[woven flint]

Eh, they're one of those things that don't really need lore because it's completely dependant on what happened in their life

[rough basalt]

yeah its why they were referred to as lineages rather than races i think

[south crystal]

i joined this discord server looking for a brand new DnD campaign i can join, anyone able to guide me?

[rough basalt]

cause alot of peoples can be a dhampir i think

[hearty cipher]

Excuse me #looking-for-players

[halcyon bison]

Dhampir is one of my favorite species
I like biting people (In the game)

[prime basin]

What i meant was stuff like how age works for these creatures

just fleshing it out more/clearer would've been nicer

[woven flint]

I assume Dhampir live as long as their species normally would because they don't become undead or pseudo-undead, they're just Pseudo-Vampire

[prime basin]

they sort've skirt the edges when it comes to stuff like that because a characters lineage is the species but they could also be an aarakocra or a tiefling etc

[woven flint]

Tieflings can live for a couple hundred years

[dark pewter]

@south crystal @hearty cipher Check out #find-a-game for how to use our LFG channels to find a campaign!

[south crystal]

thankzies

[empty thicket]

my paladin is a dhampir too, i told him he is a Temu Vampire

[prime basin]

tieflings live a similar lifespan to humans at least in 2014 rules

[hearty cipher]

Oh ok thanks

[halcyon bison]

Smite bite!!!

[empty thicket]

oathbreaker tho, had to help him cleaning a curse. We aura farmed

[woven flint]

Because Tieflings were Humans for the most part

Until pretty recently

[prime basin]

indeed, but its still a general idea to go off of

[spring glen]

If my wizard dies on Sunday I have a backup Paladin

[empty thicket]

im planing to retire my fighter someday so i can try other stuff.
Im between a Wizard or a Rogue

[prime basin]

They could always be not humans...they were just creatures with devil-blood somewhere in their lineage usually but they were often protrayed as human looking to make it easier

[north hawk]

So like a dwarven tiefling.

[woven flint]

They can be not humans now

[prime basin]

they could always be not humans

[lyric viper]

They could be, but it's more supported as it was assumed "tiefling" was a fiend touched human

[delicate owl]

Tieflings are derived from human bloodlines, and in the broadest possible sense, they still look human.

First line

in 2014 at least

[naive cedar]

vampires/dhampires are just cats tbh

[prime basin]

could be a half elf with a human parent who happens to have devil blood in their lineage

[naive cedar]

they both like biting people

Also tbhhhhh I think a Tiefling could be a plane touched elf. I think the “human” bit is just a generalization

That being said they probably shouldn’t have the elf racial bonuses for fairness

[lyric viper]

#dnd-lore message I went into previous lore a bithere

[woven flint]

I mean, by technicality you WOULDN'T be a Half-Elf anymore, you'd be a Tiefling

[naive cedar]

That’s the thing: tiefling is its own separate race imo. It being elf or human based is flavour

[woven flint]

^

[narrow torrent]

Relatively new here. Which channel would I post a "help" question on how best to create a specific homebrewed item in dndbeyond.com?

[prime basin]

indeed, but you'd still be a half-elf

you can say the same thing for a tiefling who just descends from humans

[lyric viper]

If asking for DND beyond help specifically #ddb-support if help on balancing homebrew #homebrew

[naive cedar]

My tieflings always look very “odd” so what race their non-plane touched ancestors were isn’t immediately obvious

[narrow torrent]

Thanks a lot, Elgate!

[karmic pendant]

The same applies to all planet touched species honestly

[prime basin]

I agree, but much like dhampirs, hexbloods, or reborn i think the tiefling (and aasimar) should be lineages rather than a species

[naive cedar]

Yeah people don’t view tieflings as “humans with devil horns”. They view them as a separate thing

[naive cedar]

I actually agree with that somewhat

[prime basin]

you would be surprised

[karmic pendant]

I guess the genasi would probably also fit for that

[naive cedar]

Idk I like making demonic/monstrous tieflings

[woven flint]

Genasi, Aasimar and Tieflings are all things separate from their original species or whatever as well

[timid current]

Calling someone a half-something is kinda old-speak. That implies that the other element of their background is the default/base type of person and their other parent is just a modifier

[prime basin]

They could too

[timid current]

Doing away with that kind of stuff is cool and good.

[naive cedar]

Lots of people still use the term half-elf

[timid current]

Sure, but it's no longer codified

Which is a good thing

[prime basin]

Well a half elf for example isn't purely an elf they are a mix...the race traits obviously lean towards elves over other lineages but they technically aren't elves

[severe rampart]

Have you guys ever played a bad person? not like "Murder Hobo" but just morally (in your opinion) wrong

[timid current]

It's not really a fantasy of mine to play someone so opposed to my own morals

[prime basin]

Not really but I want to explore with a character I have prepped to play one day

[naive cedar]

The term half elf has been used since 1e and while I have zero issues with the newest edition leaving it up to homebrew/personal character creation, everyone knows what I mean if I say half elf so shrug

[severe rampart]

I have like 3 prepped player characters

[timid current]

Even when I play criminals or whatnot there is a moral throughline

[halcyon bison]

Not really, I have trouble being mean

[prime basin]

I don't think they have to be opposed to every moral but I think most people don't do it because it would be hard to continually roleplay something you don't feel is justified

[halcyon bison]

I might play a friendly neighborhood necromancer at some point

[naive cedar]

I like to play “bad” people but I don’t play murderhobos. Also, everyone has their own personal system of morality

[timid current]

You can keep saying that, nobody is stopping you. I was just saying it is good that they removed the term

[severe rampart]

hence the "in your opinion"

[empty thicket]

i would like to play a bad guy someday, just to slowly change his ways until making him a good guy

[naive cedar]

Yeah it is odd that half elf was viewed as an entirely separate race. I think making it up to personal character creation was a good call

[timid current]

Especially since "half elf" only implies one part of the parentage. Could just as easily be called "half human"

[naive cedar]

same with the whole “you have to play a HALF orc. you can’t play a full orc because potatoes”

[naive cedar]

I think that’s just because humans are more common in faerun (or whatever) than elves so people see pointy ears and think “oh an elf”

[prime basin]

Also it doesn't have to mean that the person is actually bad. I have this hexblood character in mind who was a changeling who was very emotionally charged as a child and made a pact to resurrect his destroyed village/family and in doing so had to sacrifice his emotions (somewhat) and had them replaced with a very callous, bitter, and spiteful set of morals

[cosmic roost]

No pings, please :pray:

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[prime basin]

Sorry if i pinged ya

[timid current]

It doesn't have to mean anything. I'm not judging your character or anyone else's. Om saying i don't like playing evil/characters that are extremely against my own morals

[prime basin]

anyway, theoretically if the hags pact were to be severed his emotions would be restored to what he was before the pact

[timid current]

I was answering the question, not telling other people what to enjoy

[naive cedar]

Tbh I like playing morally complex characters in general. Even “good” or “evil” characters have flaws and personal moral boundaries

[prime basin]

I know, i was simply presenting why I don't think playing against ones morals is a bad or difficult thing IMO

[timid current]

It's not bad or difficult.

[naive cedar]

I will admit one moral line I can’t cross is hurting animals lol. I just can’t do it

[timid current]

I said it's not my fantasy, not something I prefer to spend my time with

[prime basin]

wears leather armor anyway

[timid current]

There isn't any reason to convince me that it's okay, I agree that it's okay.

[severe rampart]

Don't worry, it's Goblin Leather

[naive cedar]

lol fair. I mean like kicking a dog for no reason

Hunting/eating meat/wearing leather is fine

[prime basin]

Not trying to convince you, just trying to show you why some might play with morals opposed to their own

[timid current]

I already know why though haha

[halcyon bison]

You’re playing a bad person, not a monster!
Kicking dogs is muderhobo behavior

[naive cedar]

My fantasy is funny magic spells go brrrrrrr

[prime basin]

Cool

[halcyon bison]

Kicking dogs in the context of you’re a monk defending yourself from wild wolves is fine I guess

[naive cedar]

Exactly lol. Also playing evil characters who like animals more than people is funny

[severe rampart]

The BBEG petting their cat while delivering their monologue to destroy and conquer the land

[naive cedar]

Getting approval from Astarion for being nice to the cat is one of the funniest moments in BG3

Everyone’s got a moral boundary

[severe rampart]

"I'm alright with murder, but I draw the line at animal cruelty"

[timid current]

Astarion's terribly written though. he's just a choose your own adventure from the I can Fix him side of AO3

actual complexity is way more fun

[prime basin]

Let me propose a question. If my character kicked a random street beggar for fun would that be worse than skinning that character and wearing it as clothing of some sort, eating their flesh, and then taking their skull as a trophy of some kind.

[spring glen]

The BBEG is just a chill dude trying to unpolymorph his wife who changed into a plant

[naive cedar]

That’s your opinion shrug

[severe rampart]

Uh...

[prime basin]

Mr. Freeze ahh character

[naive cedar]

Tbh most of the evil characters I play wouldn’t do either of those things because it’s just pointless cruelty

[spring glen]

Mr freeze is only a villain because Batman

[severe rampart]

did he try turning it off and on again? (Cast polymorph to the plant again)

[halcyon bison]

Evil for a reason is much more interesting than evil to be evil

[severe rampart]

and trying to be evil but accidentally doing more good than harm is better than both

[woven flint]

The humble Dispel Magic:

[timid current]

he got a character rehabilitation in the animated series. originally he was just a kooky cold obsessed scientist guy

[spring glen]

She's actually a wild magic sorcerer who is cursed turning into a plant everytine

[halcyon bison]

I really, really dislike making things “inherently evil” like fiends
People are evil for what they do, not for what they are

[woven flint]

The humble remove curse:

[marble lion]

in our world, yes

[prime basin]

It's a strange question yeah, but we often consider things like hunting an animal as much better than kicking an animal despite having the opposite feelings when it comes to humans

[severe rampart]

Would be funny if they had no idea that Dispel Magic existed because they have no knowledge in Arcana

[naive cedar]

I view fiends as more embodiments of forces (in that case, “evil” forces) than actual characters

[woven flint]

Looks at Demons and Devils

[spring glen]

Yeah he just doesn't believe in magic he thinks she's cursed

[severe rampart]

depends on where you draw the line on the animal chain, do you want to go full "People Furniture" or complete vegan

[halcyon bison]

I’m sure we can be friends with them :>
I managed it in wrath of the righteous (yes I know that’s pathfinder)

[woven flint]

Honestly, I love Fiends being inherently Evil, but Devils actively uphold a type of order.

[prime basin]

Bhaal is my favorite evil god

[woven flint]

Demons are PURE Evil

[severe rampart]

The humble snake primordial>

[halcyon bison]

But that’s what makes trying to redeem them more interesting!

[prime basin]

asmodeus is pretty cool too

[woven flint]

... Demons are supposed to be irredeemable

[prime basin]

Yeah demons are like chaotic evil, where as fiends are more lawful evil and can probably see where they are wrong and have some sembelance of a chance at changing but not much

[naive cedar]

Bane is kind of funny because he’s just like, the fantasy equivalent of a cryptobro or something

[severe rampart]

Yeah but they're hot so... I roll for a persuasion check

[woven flint]

The whole point of Demons is that they're Evil for the sake of Evil, their existence literally is fueled by pain and suffering.

[prime basin]

Bane rugpulls his followers on the daily and they are like "this time it will work out though"

[naive cedar]

Bane’s chosen rugpull the entirety of faerun

[severe rampart]

I would love to see an evil campaign of morally wrong characters just fighting in the higher realms/upper planes

[prime basin]

Gortash, Archduke of Rugpulling

[halcyon bison]

But I can still try
It doesn’t have to be possible

[prime basin]

"Ascent into Avernus"

[severe rampart]

Funnily enough I do have a campaign I'm in, Descent into Avernus where I have to kill Baphomet

and Tokii loves Baphomet

[woven flint]

Have fun dying, i suppose? 😭

[halcyon bison]

Oki I will :3

[woven flint]

One of the ONLY Demon prince's that'd probably hear you out is Graz'zt, but I'm sure he just wouldn't care

[halcyon bison]

Redemption paladin who’s trying their best

[prime basin]

anyway back to this, the characters you play probably fall under lawful or maybe neutral evil (even though alignments suck), but if someone played a chaotic evil character this is something they would just actively strive to do

[prime basin]

Bahamut is just better though

[woven flint]

Bahmaut and Baphomet are two very different individuals.
I dunno how you'd even be able to compare them 😭

[prime basin]

Bro's a correctional officer

[severe rampart]

Baphomet is hotter, end of story

[prime basin]

Not as hot as tharizdun

[naive cedar]

Bahamut is cooler tho

[woven flint]

Jokes on all of you
I like Both

[north hawk]

Evil characters can be fun. But you need to tread softly and still be able to work with the party you're with.

[severe rampart]

I see what you did there

[fossil hollow]

hes in it for the love of the game, if you interest him, he's interested, but unfortunately, he is as easily pleased as a toddler without cocomelon

[severe rampart]

I have a character who isn't really "evil" just, not very truthful to the rest of the party

[prime basin]

Just make up a reason why they would want to work with a party

[severe rampart]

also we have the opposite problem, a paladin will be joining our party (who was hired by a fiend-ish, so...)

[north hawk]

That can be an interesting kind of character to play.

[prime basin]

"Hey my evil fiend character is working with the morally good party because his devilish influence goes up and he kills a fiendish rival"

[severe rampart]

in fact, the Paladin PC I heard will be fighting us next session so that'll be our first time meeting him

it's just a way to introduce us and a reason to why he would want to work with us

[north hawk]

Pretty much. And play smart. Like don't be surprised when you kill the tavern full of innocents when your party of good players turn on you. Also evil doesn't have to be homicidal.

[prime basin]

stares in inquisitive rogue

[empty thicket]

yeah, tell it to me. One of my party is in fact evil chaotic and is giving the party lots of problems and even is siding with some evil ass cult
If he finally chose to be in the cult, im going to kill him.

[woven flint]

I had a case in a high level party where my Chaotic Evil individual had to work with the party due to the decree of divine beings under threat of absolute destruction

[empty thicket]

He is a sorcerer so its going to be easy to take down

[severe rampart]

Wanna know the truth?
-# I'm a changeling.

[prime basin]

I don't think evil characters (outside of chaotic evil character maybe) would actually gain much out of killing innocents

[north hawk]

Fair. I mean if he leaves the party and joins an evil cult he's in NPC's territory anyway.

[prime basin]

Wanna know the truth? I am a changeling too!

[empty thicket]

Yep, it already kinda betrayed me so im going to appeal to the good size or just negotiate in some way, if not, welp.... will be an interesting first time PVP

[naive cedar]

I’m an ooze

[empty thicket]

Wanna know the truth?

[north hawk]

I agree. Evil usually needs to work within the confines of the laws otherwise they just get killed or locked in prison.

[severe rampart]

Oh god he's three tarrasques in a trench coat

[empty thicket]

( || im 3 kobols in a trenchcoat||)

[severe rampart]

Almost Echo'ed your words

[native kraken]

I like crossbows

[severe rampart]

you can take off those Kobold suits now, filthy Tarrasques

[prime basin]

Wanna know the truth?

[empty thicket]

its okey, sometimes we put some spikes costume and act like a tarrasque

[prime basin]

||I am actually a walking supercolony of ants||

[empty thicket]

they are good but force you to either take a feat to make them more stable or get an arti to infuse it with repetitive shoot

[empty thicket]

"yeah look, you remember this ant guy from Rick & morty? I will play that"

[native kraken]

Icl I have no idea what this means, I just got into DnD

[naive cedar]

im an ooze pretending to be a doppelganger pretending to be a tressym

[prime basin]

taking feats like sharpshooter or crossbow expert to make your crossbow attacks better

[native kraken]

Ohhh ok

[empty thicket]

okey, my bad.
There is a section of "feats" that give features to your character outside your race // class that anyone can take them (if they get the requirements, an example is some feats need X kind of stat at X number, like 13 strength)
Crossbows need to be recharged after shooting so you waste some actions in that, but there is a FEAT that make you dont waste action reloading them.

There is this class, artificer that can do a special magic thing with items. One of them is "Repetitive Shoot" that make you dont need to reload the weapon that use ammo (crossbows, pistols, etc. etc.) and even give you ammo for free each time you shoot.

[naive cedar]

Im a DND player. I aint reading allat.

[empty thicket]

Im a Slime inside of an armor that act like a Warforged Figther, the reality is that i am giga shy and i dont want anyone to find out i am a Slime inside of an Armor

[prime basin]

reads every scrap of tressym lore anyway

[naive cedar]

i love tressyms

[prime basin]

I bet you romanced gale every time you played bg3 too

[naive cedar]

I actually romanced astarion a couple times too

[prime basin]

ehh, i always felt like he was annoying

[naive cedar]

I also found him annoying at first but he really grew on me lol. his quest is amazing

[halcyon bison]

I like Gale
Funny wizard man

[naive cedar]

Gale is also my favourite

[spring light]

UHG GALE. What a tool. My least favorite.

[prime basin]

Gale is dope...dorky fun wizard dude who somehow romanced magic

[naive cedar]

my least favourite was shadowheart

[halcyon bison]

Well, favorite? I dunno, Karlach exists…

[naive cedar]

Karlarch is cool but idk im not really into the big dumb berserker stereotype

admittedly i was never a huge fan of minsc either

[halcyon bison]

She’s not dumb! D:

[prime basin]

insert peter quill saying what here

[naive cedar]

Im like those dudes who are like "i dont understand why everyone loves astarion???" except with shadowheart

[prime basin]

She isn't dumb, i just found her to be too childish in certain scenes

Karlach is my third favorite, behind gale and shadowheart

[naive cedar]

My favourites are astarion, gale, and lae'zel

[halcyon bison]

I liked shadowheart’s storyline a lot but I don’t know why everyone likes her other than that

[prime basin]

I despise lae'zel

[naive cedar]

and minthara but shes not an origin companion

[prime basin]

"I don't know" everyone in this chat knows bro

[hard crystal]

should people know each other’s backstories?

[naive cedar]

fr

[halcyon bison]

Dame Aylin was easily my favorite character but sadly you can’t bring her in your party

[fossil hollow]

thats up to you and your group to decide

[naive cedar]

depends on the game

[halcyon bison]

Aylin is just so cool

[naive cedar]

i LOVE aylin

[hard crystal]

we are doing the “no, we don’t” but it feels weird to me cause we’ll miss something about the story if we don’t know the full picture

[naive cedar]

i also love zevlor and rolan

[prime basin]

She feels like an alien who flew to earth and is just finding out about humans talk towards one another

[halcyon bison]

In a sense, she is

[naive cedar]

Shes such a great depiction of an aasimar imo

[prime basin]

Someone out there unironically said "I love aradin" at some point in their lives

[naive cedar]

Bro there are SOOOO many aradin fans 😭 i genuinely dont get it

i punch him every oppurtunity unless zevlor is gonna do it first

[halcyon bison]

Aww I hated that guy
I just wish there was a way to make him a good guy but there isn’t

[prime basin]

I just let him do it since it ups shadowhearts approval towards me

[naive cedar]

i hate aradin and his dumb gen z tiktok haircut

[hard crystal]

the best character is minthara. She can step on me

[naive cedar]

Minthara is hilarious

[hard crystal]

(I didn’t finish bg3)

[prime basin]

As a gen z enthusiast, gen z do not get that haircut...that haircut resembles a perm but it actually doesn't really look like it if you take a thorough look

[prime basin]

PERMA BANNED

[naive cedar]

I know its not really a thing beyond tiktok but its still funny

[prime basin]

Hard IP ban

[naive cedar]

i like minthara shes funny

[prime basin]

No a lot of people rock perms even beyond tiktok, but yes it is still quite funny

[naive cedar]

anyways we should probably get back on topic....is there something that you find you tend to put in a lot of your characters (like a trait or something)?

i like making my characters cat people

[prime basin]

In my dreams, I stand beside duplicates of her dead corpse 7 miles high

I will never in my existence take minthara as a companion

[naive cedar]

You have the aura of a third son about you

[prime basin]

Not sure who that is, but i will gladly accept the title

[naive cedar]

Oh yeah i also like the fey themed classes a lot. ig thats a pattern

[prime basin]

They are usually good, but i just don't play classes where they are present in

[naive cedar]

You dont play warlock? :0 /j

[prime basin]

Only ever played a hexblade

I don't play much to begin with

the longest campaign i've played in probably had 20-25 sessions

[austere axle]

are strength druids viable at all? I want to make a firbolg druid, and having him be low strength would look quite silly for the fantasy of a giant-kin, but mechanically I don't see anything for strength. Armor requirement is a non-issue, since they can't wear metal anyway, so needn't worry about it, and most weapons are outperformed by shillelagh. Any ideas?

[fossil hollow]

theyre a spellcaster first, so.

[prime basin]

I'd say no, unless you wanna create a homebrew subclass

[humble cairn]

Ability scores don't determine look.

[prime basin]

playing a strength druid is like playing a strength wizard

[jovial shadow]

Who can't wear metal armor?

[humble cairn]

You can be a low strength Firbolg and still look any way you want.

[minor cargo]

Big people can lack raw pushing/pulling strength.
Small people can have tremendous pushing/pulling strength. ✌️

[prime basin]

i don't think any light armors are made of metal so technically druids can't wear metal unless they took a feat that gives them something

[hollow stone]

i mean Battlemaster Fighter is basically a Strength caster

[prime basin]

You mean eldritch knight?

[jovial shadow]

Really? That's in the PHB. Interesting. I only glossed over the class

[prime basin]

regardless the eldritch knight is a martial foremost where as the druid is the opposite

[hollow stone]

no i mean Battlemaster Fighter with the Manuevers that have a Save DC based off of Strength or Dexterity, whichever they choose

[timid current]

druids can wear metal just fine, unless they are barred from doing so by your DM

[jovial shadow]

That's what I thought

[prime basin]

Having a save dc doesn't make you a caster lmao

[prime basin]

indeed, but i don't think there are any light armors that are metal

[hollow stone]

have you seen the Maneuvers? they're basically spells but martial

[prime basin]

They aren't spells

[timid current]

no metal also doesn't really make sense, since they use metal weapons and jewelery just fine

[prime basin]

indeed

[hollow stone]

they're quite like spells from a mechanical standpoint

[fossil hollow]

metal that covers them inhibits acts like superman with lead

[austere axle]

can they? the wiki says they won't wear any so that's why I was guessing. But it was really weird to me since they seem to be fine with metal weapons

[stuck shuttle]

I get Bebe's point. They're caster-like

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[timid current]

the wiki isn't the phb

[prime basin]

Having a save dc doesn't mean they are spells or "similar" to spells

[hollow stone]

yes

[stuck shuttle]

will ≠ can

[hollow stone]

Superiority Die are their Spell Slots and their casting stat js STR or DEX

[prime basin]

true

[timid current]

is it more "unnatural" take stones from the earth and use fire and water to transmute them into armor than it is to skin a creature and use it's brains to cure the leather?

[prime basin]

battlemasters are better casters than eldritch knights

[hollow stone]

now you are see :D

[prime basin]

yes

not everyone can use magic to transmute stuff into armor

everyone can potentially skin a creature and use its brains to cure leather

[stuck shuttle]

I don't think Dave was talking about transmutation magic

[lavish flame]

Dave was deff talking about using fire and water to heat and cool metal

[timid current]

when I said transmute I meant using the element of fire to heat the stone, to remove the the bits of stone that aren't metal, so you can thean shape the metal, and then cool it to set it in place

[lavish flame]

Like standard metallurgy stuff

[timid current]

the same "anyone can do it" as curing leather. or cutting down mistletoe. or whatever

[halcyon bison]

Getting the metal does require mining, which has significant environmental impact
My Druid wears metal armor they took from a corpse in the woods :)

[timid current]

chopping down flax, threshing it, combing it, weaving it and making cloth

[halcyon bison]

It also might be if druid are trying to avoid damaging the environment, they wouldn’t build the necessary infrastructure to make armor themselves

[prime basin]

I flay the skin of my combatants and wear it as armor and wear their skulls and spines as trophies!

[timid current]

nothing about druid says not to impact the environment. in fact a lot of what they do is a huge impact. summoning storms, fire, etc

you can choose to be non impactful.

[prime basin]

anyway look at this cute hamster i found

[fossil hollow]

explode

[halcyon bison]

Also also the fey (who are friends) have a folkloric aversion to metal and druids often deal with fey
(That being said it’s kinda like the stealing names thing where it’s not actually written down anywhere for D&D)

[halcyon bison]

Oh n💥

[timid current]

what fear does a fey have of someone wearing metal that isn't worse with someone weilding metal weapons?

[humble cairn]

2014 PHB had language that implied that Druids don't wear metal armor, and devs clarified that it doesn't mean can't. 2024 PHB has no such language.

[timid current]

the "don't" is setting specific. and even then it's not set in stone

[prime basin]

I transform into a nightmarish creature that uses the spirit of vengeance to conjure up a form that slowly and painfully drains the life essence of enemy creatures who would destroy nature and use it for their own personal gain and watch as others slowly waste away around me because they are simply standing in my presence!

[halcyon bison]

I don’t know I didn’t make the rules
(Edit sorry did a ping)

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[timid current]

note that the rules you are referencing don't actually exist

[halcyon bison]

Not D&D rules the mythological ones

[timid current]

those don't exist in D&D either. not for some time!

even back in 3.5 it wasn't "metal" it was "cold iron" which is different from the historical phrase cold iron - it was a specific alloy or element

[jovial shadow]

An example of cold iron is horse shoes

[timid current]

in real world mythology/terminology, yep. but in D&D cold iron was a seperate material altogether

[halcyon bison]

But anyways I don’t really know for sure where the no wearing metals for druids thing came from
I was just guessing

[prime basin]

I think someone just assumed that because they saw some extra material in the PHB and saw that druids don't have prof in medium or heavy armor

[halcyon bison]

Maybe they just wanted a unique restriction on druids to make them feel like they’re supposed to be following some set of rules
Like paladins breaking oaths

[halcyon bison]

No, unless I’m recalling incorrectly, the 2014 phb does specifically say they don’t wear metal

[minor cargo]

Sorry, I'm gonna be pedantic but in the hopes of actually helping!

Druids are prohibited from wearing metal armor in D&D 3.5E. https://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/druid.htm

Druids are proficient with light and medium armor but are prohibited from wearing metal armor; thus, they may wear only padded, leather, or hide armor. [...] A druid who wears prohibited armor or carries a prohibited shield is unable to cast druid spells or use any of her supernatural or spell-like class abilities while doing so and for 24 hours thereafter.

Again, this is from 3.5E, not 5E so it doesn't apply to 5E games (of course). But it's a fun lil' history tid-bit!

[jovial shadow]

I don't want to add on to the older editions, but I had to check AD&D 1e and the Druids back then were expressively forbidden to use anything but leather armor and wooden shields.

[fossil hollow]

Proficiencies
Armor: Light armor, medium armor, shields (druids will not wear armor or use shields made of metal)
Weapons: Clubs, daggers, darts, javelins, maces, quarterstaffs, scimitars, sickles, slings, spears
Tools: Herbalism kit
Saving Throws: Intelligence, Wisdom
Skills: Choose two from Arcana, Animal Handling, Insight, Medicine, Nature, Perception, Religion, and Survival

[timid current]

oh Steve - I was responding to the bit about fey being bad with metal

the fey took extra damage from cold iron (so did... devils?) I was just saying that back then "cold iron" was different than "Cold iron" in our own real world mythology/terminology

[halcyon bison]

I can’t find anything about it in 5e actually

[timid current]

I think in AD&D 2nd they also were completely disallowed from weapon metal armor (but not metal jewelery or wielding metal weapons - in fact they were expressly happy to use sickles and scythes as part of their whole shtick was cutting up plants)

yeah. 5e 2014 says don't, not can't, and 2024 doesn't mention it

[halcyon bison]

Also in 2024 you can even get medium armor proficiency from Druid

[prime basin]

i find it funny that druids are incentivised to be nature focused but have a non metal aspect to them despite metal being an important aspect of nature

[jovial shadow]

AD&D 1e at least stated the reason they can't use metal shields or armor, is because they nullify their spells. So they theoretically can use them, but they would just be a fighter druid with no spells. lol

[halcyon bison]

But why does metal negate their spells?

[native kraken]

Can DnD be sci fi

[fossil hollow]

cuts off their connection to the wild

[prime basin]

Cause its metal and metal isn't nature apparently

[timid current]

I don't know where that was stated, it was pretty arbitrary (especially since they can wear metal all they want, just not metal armor)

[fossil hollow]

correction: its worked/industrialized metal

[timid current]

seems like a setting limitation more than anything else.

[prime basin]

well you've heard it hear folks, druids can't use stones because stones have metal in them

[fossil hollow]

... what

[timid current]

notably that worked industrialised leather or cloth are somehow exempt. and worked/industrialised metal weapons, jewelery and even non-armor clothing.

[prime basin]

Sorry rocks*

[jovial shadow]

Again. Druids in 2024 have no limitations on what material they can wear or wield

[fossil hollow]

well. theyre not wearing rocks like armor

[prime basin]

You never know

[fossil hollow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i also said industrialized metal

[prime basin]

So we can confirm that The Rock can't be a druid in dnd

[timid current]

they are, however, wearing worked/industrialised stuff like cotton, flax, hemp, leather or wool

[fossil hollow]

right, all of which arent metal

[timid current]

but why is metal being industrialised bad, and leather, hemp, cotton, wool, etc, not?

[fossil hollow]

i assume it has to be something regarding the proccess of turning them into products

[timid current]

that's what I meant by arbitrary. is it more natural to industrialise killing animals for their skin, or to pound hot rocks?

[prime basin]

This is why we need to use nanomachines son

[molten prairie]

I’ve heard of a campaign where the fae overcame their reaction to iron because plastic was invented and that was worse

[jovial shadow]

It doesn't anymore. Things change with new editions of the game

[atomic kayak]

Pound Hot Rocks sounds like a band name

[fossil hollow]

P.H.R.

[prime basin]

"Give it up for the band known as, A Pound of Hot Rocks!"

and some druid hippie just boos in the audience

[timid current]

should be noted that druids were never actually presented as hippies

both historically (burning people alive in wicker effigies) or in D&D (running around killing monsters)

[prime basin]

My fault unc

i'll never say anything again

[timid current]

k

[jovial shadow]

Dave- I had to research in 1e Iron only did damage to Demons, but had no effect on Devils, unless they were affected by normal weapon damage.

[timid current]

ah, got em mixed

I thought in 3.5 devils had the cold iron problem, maybe they were silver and demons were cold iron

[jovial shadow]

Silver affected Devils but not Demons

[timid current]

riight

[jovial shadow]

Too much to remember, I am glad they got rid of all of that

[hidden spindle]

Those details seem cool

[jovial shadow]

It took 50 years for 5e 2024 to finally get rid of immunity to non-magical weapons

[silk hare]

tbh I personally dislike the "rule" that druids "can not ever" use metal, like its still something natural and as yall said they still use processed goods

[jovial shadow]

Ther is no current rule

[umbral girder]

That’s why you need to make your clothes and armor with your bare hands in the woods /jk

Ah shoot.

I pinged. Sorry Dave!

[undone rain]

You think a tieflings horns can grow too big?

Or screw up in the process?

[jovial shadow]

I mean from a Boss stand point probably, because the players have to have to correct weapon type to cause damage

[prime basin]

What do you mean by "too big" and "screw up in the process"

[silk hare]

lmao imagine like those mountain goats, they just pierce their own cranium with their horns and have to shorten them

[rapid dove]

Yo anyone running a one shot tomorrow

[slender rivet]

Hi, im begginer and i wanna learn to play. Somebody wanna help? Jest tu ktoś z Polski?

[native kraken]

Is it acceptable to make a dimension-hopping character who uses hard sci fi gear rather than fantasy stuff? I have a guy I've been writing for a while who's a supersoldier similar to UNSC Spartans, he was pulled into a space called the Abyss and ended up in a different reality

[uncut zenith]

Sorry, but all English server. Just don’t want you getting an official warning

[scenic zinc]

Highly dependent on the table and the game that was agreed on.

[umbral girder]

English only server. Also not the channel to ask to join or learn about the game.
#find-a-game and #dnd-newcomers are more for those topics

[umbral girder]

Likely will need a different TTRPG for that like Starfinder

[native kraken]

Alr thx yall

[scenic zinc]

I could pretty easily see it fitting either a planescape or spelljammer game.

[fossil hollow]

Planescape calls for me

[undone rain]

Well similair with animals horns. If their curved they can grow into their eye and yadda yadda

[prime basin]

I'd say yes because there are some long/massive horn options for tieflings in bg3 though im not entirely sure on the screw up in the process part. I don't see why your character couldn't have horns that screw up though

[undone rain]

I mean could be that maybe one horn cant grow out or whatever

However can they grow em out again if they shorten them or they break off?

[fossil hollow]

i dont remember anything about tiefling horn growth. FR Wiki might have something though

[jovial shadow]

Not that I am aware of. AD&D 1e had a pure Sci Fi rpg called Traveller. That's a place to start

[coral lake]

Is deck of wonders broken?

[undone rain]

Alrighty

Yep tieflings cant regrow their horns if broken or severed

Can however be regrown with regenerate spell

Poor tieflings, get mistreated for looking like devils and have to deal with those damned horns

[naive cedar]

I always wondered how tieflings sleep

[molten prairie]

I played one who could pass as a half elf if he hid his tail and kept his horns filed down, so he did that for a long time

[rugged hawk]

With great amounts of pillow damage and neck pain

[halcyon bison]

with their eyes closed I would presume

[molten prairie]

He only got outed after he was in a coma for almost three months

[naive cedar]

Tiefling who sleeps like a bat

[halcyon bison]

Maybe they have a really good pillow

[turbid totem]

Where's the interested button for the event??

[vale seal]

How would I play d&d by myself?

[jovial shadow]

In what book is this stated?

[undone rain]

Idk i just seached it on google

[karmic pendant]

You don't the closest you'll get is playing baldur's gate 3

[jovial shadow]

Roll up a character as normal, then search the internet for solo D&D adventures.

[hushed mason]

It's called "World Building" if you're trying to play it by yourself. 🙂

[scenic zinc]

This sort of thing isn't defined by any official book.

[hushed mason]

It might show up in a novel.

[rugged hawk]

@vale seal There's several books that are specifically for running a solo play for your own character:

D&D DM Yourselves
D&D The Solo Adventurer's Toolbox
D&D The Solo Adventurer's Toolbox Expanded

Probably more as well, but the latter two particularly are helpful for single play

[karmic pendant]

I do think that playing dnd by yourself at least seems kind of borinf

[livid slate]

The dnd playerbooks release every how many years?

[hushed mason]

There's no set range.

[livid slate]

So it's basically random? :/

[hushed mason]

Well, no, it's not random. It's corporate.

[livid slate]

Thats sad

[fossil hollow]

2014 to 2024 i hear is the longest in between player handbooks. Unless you count splashbooks like Tasha to also be player handbooks

[livid slate]

:/

[fossil hollow]

WoTC has their own schedule. Its not something set

[livid slate]

Oh.

[fossil hollow]

plus, i feel like that would already limit their time to think and just. Do Quality check on what theyre making

I dont want rushed, half hearted products

[livid slate]

Fair

[scenic zinc]

Heheheheh. WotC? Do quality checks?

[fossil hollow]

exactly my point, bar is already low, rushing them makes it worse

[karmic pendant]

I do wish they did more quality checks if they even do at all

[fossil hollow]

honestly, this might be the longest theyve gone without announcing books

[karmic pendant]

They're probably waiting for a good time to announce books i guess

[hushed mason]

Are they saving the announcement for an auspicious event?

[karmic pendant]

Likely yes

[fossil hollow]

Their newest book was Eberron, which released NOv 11 and was announced around summer iirc

that one got delayed too

[scenic zinc]

They did have two rather significant game designers who essentially were in charge of everything the past 12 years leave recently. It's not surprising they slowed down once that happened.

[tribal mesa]

Would it be odd for a valor bard to take the gunner feat and use a pistol?

[jovial shadow]

AD&D 1e PHB to AD&D 2e PHB was 11 years. So about the same

[fossil hollow]

why would it be?

[scenic zinc]

That wasn't wotc

And I'm not being pedantic. The 'they' is different if you're talking about tsr vs if you're talking about wotc.

[buoyant oar]

Hmm interesting, just realized that Heroes of Faerûn explicitly ties divine magic to come from the gods. Huh I would figure they would have been taking the "Gods not required approach"

[jovial shadow]

The point is the source. If it is canon by WOTC it may be relevant depending on the edition and if anything has changed. If it's Co-pilot or Wiki then likely not primary source

[hushed mason]

I get it. Maybe ask in #dnd-lore for a more official answer.

[scenic zinc]

Why would they? Divine magic should come from a divine being, whether it's taken or given.

[buoyant oar]

5e in general has reinforced the trend of gods not being required for divine magic specifically tied to clerics and paladins.

[scenic zinc]

Especially in a setting that explicitly does have gods.

The setting book is being setting specific.

You don't need to apply the reasoning outside that setting.

[buoyant oar]

I don't disagree with requiring gods. It's just an interesting thing to me considering WotC has been decoupling these things. And with Faerûn being as bog standard boilerplate as possible removing that like with the Wall of the Faithless

[naive cedar]

I think the whole "divine magic doesnt neccesarily require gods" thing makes sense for setting agnostic rules esp if you're running in a setting like dark sun

[jovial shadow]

Some Cleric abilities actually require deities to use

[buoyant oar]

I hear that Keith Baker makes 0.25 USD when someone brings up the face that we don't know if the gods are real in Eberron.

[hot marlin]

We're putting his entire bloodline through college for generations.

[fossil hollow]

good, keep feeding him

[rugged hawk]

Not that it matters. College stopped being useful for getting a job around the time they switched from education to memorization.

[hot marlin]

To be fair the Wall of the Faithless was a late adition to the lore that was disliked by quite a few writers who worked on the setting.

[ancient ridge]

Hello chat

[lavish flame]

It was taking everything in me to not mention the Eberron deities.

[rugged hawk]

Wall of the Faithless led directly to the whole plot campaign of NWN2 though

[buoyant oar]

I mean I hated it too. It is in vogue these days to be no gods. Is what I mean.

[hot marlin]

I admit, I am in favour of removing it. It's a ridiculous concept. Asking people to devote themselves to one god goes against the most basic logic and is a ridiculous attempt of forcing henotheistic or even monotheistic themes in a fundamentally polytheistic setting

[buoyant oar]

Hey did you know that in Eberron we don't know if the gods even exist?

[rugged hawk]

Wall of the Faithless isn't about devoting to a single god, but rather to the Gods as a concept. Basically, if no Gods want you, or if you didn't follow any of them, you get shoved in the wall.

[woven flint]

Hey did you know that In Eberron there's Eberron?

[hot marlin]

Technically it led to the expansion. Which was the second best D&D video game story ever told. So probably the only thing of value that ever came out of the wall existing as a plot point

[severe rampart]

Crap, the worst just happened, two of my campaigns overlapped their schedule with one another

well, not overlapping, just dangerously close

[rugged hawk]

Crossover time!

[hot marlin]

Not at all. The lore of the Wall of the Faithless is that it is meant to incentivize people devoting themselves to one god.

[severe rampart]

Time to get another discord account and play two games at once

[rugged hawk]

No, now you do what every anime does and smash both groups together for a filler spinoff

[severe rampart]

Campaign 1 is 10:00 PM saturday and Campaign 2 is 1 AM sunday

[hot marlin]

Lots of echoes here

[ancient ridge]

My campaign hasnt even started yet and we’re already facing the BBEG of all BBEGs

[severe rampart]

Scheduling

[ancient ridge]

Scheduling conflicts

[severe rampart]

I just Echo'ed your words

[bronze wave]

That’s a good time diff? Unless it’s 10pm start

[ancient ridge]

I had to wait 10 seconds for the reveal 😔

[severe rampart]

10:00 PM is the start of Campaign 1

[wanton sorrel]

shrugs found 3 players.... the thing is i never talked about scheduling so

[bronze wave]

Ah have fun

[ancient ridge]

Starting at 1 am is kind of insane

[severe rampart]

Never decide the time when you have players, mentioned a strict time in the post

[severe rampart]

It's Time Zones

[ancient ridge]

Are you dming?

[severe rampart]

With Campaign 1 I have the same timezone as the DM, so it works out... and then Campaign 2 I'm 13 Hours Ahead

[severe rampart]

No, I don't think any self-respecting DM would EVER put two sessions so close together

[lavish flame]

I play 2 games on the same day. Wildemount on Tuesdays from 4pm to 7pm and Eberron from 8pm to 11pm.

I run Wildemount and play in Eberron.

[ancient ridge]

Yeah i can understand that. Im more impressed that you’re ok with starting at that time is all

[severe rampart]

Yeah but there's like an hour difference, I don't think I can play DnD for 6 or 7 hours straight

[lavish flame]

I used to play for 5 hours back when I was in middle school and high school. That was hell, by the end of the session I was becoming gelatinous

[severe rampart]

and that's if there's no one late, no technical difficulties, etc.

[ancient ridge]

My last campaign we were all 6 hrs apart each i think. One in the states, one in Europe, one in asia, one in Australia idk how we managed it

[severe rampart]

Early Mornings and Late Nights

[ancient ridge]

Usually thats when you should end sessions with a good meal together and unwind lol

[ancient ridge]

Yep and thats kind of ass for everyone tbh

[lavish flame]

We usually had dinner at some point during the session. It was fun game nights, they were just loooooong

[wanton sorrel]

i'm taking my group to seeds of destruction

[ancient ridge]

I did the same and those long sessions can really take the wind out of ya

[severe rampart]

The DM of Campaign 1 is fairly new so I'm worried there'll be technical difficulties with the VTT and make the session even closer to Campaign 2

[proper forum]

Why did I read this as Mona Lisa

[severe rampart]

I have to figure out what I'll drop if it ever comes to it... would I drop Dragons of the Stormwreck Isle or Dark Souls...

[ancient ridge]

What are you gonna do then?

[severe rampart]

I have a phone and a burner account, let me play two dnd games at once

[bronze wave]

I hope you aren’t actually considering playing them at the same time lol

[severe rampart]

but I am asking the DM of Campaign 1 to maybe make the game a little earlier

[bronze wave]

I’d just drop the one you like less it’s what I do

[ancient ridge]

That sounds like a solid plan

[severe rampart]

But the characters are so cool... would I drop the Artificer or the Eladrin Warlock

[bronze wave]

Artificers are mid so I’d drop that if scheduling doesn’t work

But normally I base it off the players and which party I like more lol

[ancient ridge]

It cant hurt to communicate the scheduling issue. No need to tell them you have another campaign just ask if it can be earlier

I say try and have your cake and eat it too

[bronze wave]

I mean you can tell them I doubt they’d care? Just open lol

I’d prob willingly leave a party that got mad I joined a diff dnd group

[severe rampart]

Holy crap, two cakes!

[bronze wave]

Just be open and hear them out. If it can’t be changed drop one if it can be changed wonderful you can have 2 cakes

[ancient ridge]

Good luck either way @severe rampart

[wanton sorrel]

i want cookies.

[humble gorge]

can someone suggest any good YT channels with spoiler free summaries for official campaings?

[ancient ridge]

I still think you should play both campaigns at the same time

[severe rampart]

Campaign 3 is gonna have session 2 in 2 weeks, and it is my favorite, I will never drop that campaign

[proper forum]

I today's episode of "Why did the DM just do that": Not only did he generate AI images of allour characters, he also stuffed them all into one image. Again, with AI.

[wanton sorrel]

ewwwww AI

[severe rampart]

eughhh

[ancient ridge]

I’d cry whattt

[hushed mason]

How sweet of them.

[ancient ridge]

Non consensual AI 🤮

[proper forum]

The rest of the partly liked it. Apparently I'm the problem.

I'm the only one there who doesn't like AI

[ancient ridge]

Hmm thats tough

[severe rampart]

Who needs AI when PICREW is right there

[ancient ridge]

Then the dm doesnt need to make AI art of your character

[hushed mason]

Do you want validation or advice?

[proper forum]

Picrew kinda cheesy and corny and uhhhhh I don't like it sorry

[severe rampart]

DIfferent folks, different interests, there is also the option to commision artists but that's pricey depending on who

[ancient ridge]

Picrew is hit or miss but i prefer it over AI

[severe rampart]

There is like 5 good ones I found that I just keep reusing

[proper forum]

No, I just find it weird that I'm the only one out of 6 people who knows that AI steals jobs and is overall very bad. The rest of them see it as a useful tool. One told me that AI is the future and I'm resisting progress.

[severe rampart]

Oh dear lord it's like the gods of DnD bestowed me with immense luck

[ancient ridge]

AI is the future and the future is barren and waterless :/

[severe rampart]

Campaign 2 will be held a little later because the DM has to pick up his grandpa and he doesn't know when he'll be back

[hushed mason]

AI is the future, and resistance is likely futile. Bad or not, it's here.

[proper forum]

If I want art of something I draw it myself. There are other artists who are better than me but hey it's better than AI.

[ancient ridge]

Major two cake moment

[severe rampart]

Just waiting for the AI bubble to pop

[wanton sorrel]

wait is warforged race an AI?

[fossil hollow]

no

[proper forum]

Technically yes. But you can't compare it to real AI because Warforged are not trained on data scraped of the internet to generate material based on them. The procedure I just described, by the way, is called stealing.

[fossil hollow]

Warforged developed proper sapience at some point during the war

[timid current]

That's the attitude that'll let them walk all over us. If it was assured, MS, OAI and NVidia CEOs wouldn't be panicking about the billions they're losing and trying to reframe it as a social problem for the consumers

Warforged are living creatures with souls. Vampires can even feed on them

[proper forum]

I second this

Oh and I forgot to mention, the DM also used AI for all the NPCs and enemies and sometimes backgrounds

But you were probably expecting that. The AI people are like that.

[glad arch]

Yeh thats a personal choice if you want to keep playing there or not. I just know for me that would be a massive red flag

[ancient ridge]

At that point thats more work than literally going on pinterest and finding art that already exists

[wanton sorrel]

super red flag for sure

[rough basalt]

A lot of pinterest is just AI I think anymore

[wanton sorrel]

also i got my character sheets from D&D beyond finally

[proper forum]

So far the campaign is great, he's the best DM I had and the worldbuilding is amazing. The AI is the only problem.

[wanton sorrel]

this is some weird little thick paper

[proper forum]

I know the DM and the other players irl by the way. They're not random people. They're my friends.

[glad arch]

You can physically order character sheets from dnd beyond??

[proper forum]

Let me introduce you my old friend Google images

[wanton sorrel]

you didn't know that?

[rough basalt]

Which is downright infested

[glad arch]

It has got to be cheaper and easier to just print it yourself doesnt it?

[celest sail]

pinterest is so good for this, but i did have to keep telling it to stop recommending me AI posts

[glad arch]

I play in 1 game with friends physically, no reason to use dnd beyond

[sleek cloud]

Good afternoon everyone

[celest sail]

hello!

[wanton sorrel]

my gosh the d&D sheets are like a little thick than printing paper it feels so gosh dang smooth

[glass granite]

Morning!

[sleek cloud]

Oh look, you gained more nugget

[ancient ridge]

True but you can find artists on there and see their other work

[ancient ridge]

Is there a channel where you can post a picture or something?

[proper forum]

The only time I've had a problem is when searching terms the AI bros are known to love. Like crusaders. They looooove crusaders. I was doing a powerpoint on the templars for uni and half the images on Google were AI.

[patent atlas]

Ooof that sucks

[rough basalt]

Every time I look something up it's usually 70% obvious AI

At best

[celest sail]

artstation is great, they do allow AI but from what i’ve seen their no AI filter works, it’s a lot of gorgeous work from professional concept artists

[patent atlas]

^ I just try to find an artist. I suck at drawing lol

[rough basalt]

Good to know about Artstation

Cause rn I'm making the Lich's of my world and finding human art for them is rough.

[sleek cloud]

Kel’thuzad

[proper forum]

If it ever gets that bad you can tell me to draw something. Free of charge. But only if you have no other option. And it will be pencil on paper, as that's what I always do.

[rough basalt]

Nah, in all honesty I should just start learning to draw

[naive cedar]

I just use Heroforge or something

[glad arch]

Every dnd group needs their artist

[sleek cloud]

I don’t mean to brag but I can make a pretty mean stick figure

[rough basalt]

I don't have any artists in mine I don't think

[dark basin]

My stick figure has excellent penmanship, Stardude. I challenge you to a stick figure off

[glad arch]

I made stick figure 'art' of the dnd classes

[wanton sorrel]

not sure it's probablly if i dm you for it

[rough basalt]

I usually get AI sent to me for tokens which is discouraging.

[ancient ridge]

Go ahead

[proper forum]

Yeah that's the spirit

[celest sail]

i like doing black n white sketches on procreate i should do physical more though

[glad arch]

You could probably get away it it in #merch-and-dice since it is after all merchandise

[ancient ridge]

D&D is what primarily fuels my motivation to practice drawing

[sleek cloud]

You know what Fritz, you’re on

Someone pick a class for me to draw a stick figure of

[glass granite]

Monk!

[glad arch]

I use heroforge for my visualisation but i would love actual character/campaign arts

[rough basalt]

If I learned to draw I'd make my PCs art so I can cut AI out entirely

[proper forum]

Do a warlock

[midnight adder]

Whatup all

[sleek cloud]

Nugget got first pick

[glad arch]

Absolutly love the #dnd-arts-and-crafts channel some stuff people make looks so sick

[glass granite]

Someone’s doing a stick-figure off!

[proper forum]

Is your profile picture AI

[celest sail]

this is giving me the urge to draw my hexblade witch tiefling girlboss (very original concept i know)

[midnight adder]

Where's a good spot to drumbup interest for a campaign that's fantasy debates lol

[glad arch]

No dnd character is original at this point,

[proper forum]

Do it, I just drew my hexblade drow girlboss today

[glad arch]

Go for it

[midnight adder]

Yeah I was doing a debate thing the other day cant draw a srick figure with a ruler so 🤷

[glass granite]

Drumbup?

[dark basin]

my pfp is AI (trust)

[glass granite]

Though you can probably find info on how to look for games in #find-a-game

[proper forum]

We were just talking about how AI is taking jobs from artists. Just letting you know.

[glad arch]

My pfp is pre mainstream ai stuff so im sure its actual art

[idle oar]

This really isn’t the server to troll or cause unnecessary debate. Keep things civil per server rules.

[celest sail]

hell yeah time to put on some witcher music and draw

[glass granite]

Cmon, don’t bully the new guy.
Welcome to the server!

[midnight adder]

I ain't worried about it I find it useful others dont like it

[glad arch]

Peak on top of peak

[glass granite]

Lezgooo

[celest sail]

my hw can wait

[midnight adder]

I started the Witcher 3 today

[glad arch]

Exaaaactly

[celest sail]

beautiful game with an amazing ost

[midnight adder]

An hour and a half till its dnd time I cant wait act 2 starts today

[sleek cloud]

Alright my stick figure monk is posted in arts and crafts

[glass granite]

#dnd-arts-and-crafts ?

[sleek cloud]

Yep

[lean lark]

I gave the official roll20 Bullywug token glasses

[sleek cloud]

I apologize for the ping

Challenge accepted and it’s your move

[glad arch]

Close

[sleek cloud]

Almost had it

[loud tendon]

please keep sharing of art to #dnd-arts-and-crafts and that they are D&D related.

random other posts will be removed for being off topic.. thank you

[twilit summit]

Guys, congratulate me!

I finally found a campaign where I can play as my main character (the one I'm mostly interested in)

[sleek cloud]

Congrats!

[ancient ridge]

Congrats!

Gonna be dming my first homebrew campaign soon so im pretty excited about that

Mostly joined the server so i have some void i can yap about it to lol

[coarse panther]

yo what's up kind of new here. i just got a pass to Gary con and I am wondering if any of you can help me sign up for events. I am a bit confused by the way they have made the schedule any help would be great. thank you

[stark arch]

is this posible. as wizard and with a /\ shape ladder to climb into the air and cast leomonds tiny hut and float?

[twilit summit]

Ladder?

[loud tendon]

sounds like they are describing your standard, A-frame ladder

[stark arch]

yes

10 feet long

climb inside tiny hut. pull lader up

set lader up. climb lader. cast tiny hut again

go up 5 feet with every cast

[woven flint]

...
Why not just learn Spider Climb or Fly? Lol

I don't get what you're trying to achieve with this

[stark arch]

cant be targeted by other creatures in tiny hut? doest cost a spell slot as rituel. dont need it prepared. as wizard. entire party can fit in there. and its wat i have on hand

[rugged hawk]

Speaking of Tiny Hut, I really wish there was something between Leomund's Tiny Hut and Mordenkainen's Magnificent Mansion

[woven flint]

Yeah, but like... why?

What is the goal?

[stark arch]

Mighty Fortress ?

[stark arch]

fun?

[rugged hawk]

Isn't that the item that becomes a big fort?

[stark arch]

thats instant fortress

mighty fortress Source: Xanathar's Guide to Everything

8th-level conjuration

[rugged hawk]

How is this supposed to be something between Tiny Hut and Magnificent Mansion? This is superior to both.

[stark arch]

😛

could use mold earth to make an earth like fortress

[rugged hawk]

Like, I'd settle for Larloch's Little Laboratory or something

[woven flint]

Aren't there other ways to have fun?
Like... doing quests and killing monsters?

[tawdry sentinel]

Tiny hut didn't used to have a floor.

[remote wadi]

Haven't seen you in a bit. How have you been?

[rugged hawk]

Still alive!

[blissful ibex]

I mean there's kinda https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/2619114-mordenkainens-private-sanctum

not useful for the same things though sadly

[woven flint]

Well, that's not true, as you can only have three effects of Mold earth active at once

[remote wadi]

You and me both. You and me both

[blissful ibex]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/2619120-move-earth or https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/2619200-wall-of-stone could also make shelter

[remote wadi]

Anyways, my Ranger died, but is coming back. Presumably a vampire spawn

[woven flint]

You could also always just.. build a shelter 🤔

[blissful ibex]

or just, having someone good at survival

anyway I cheesed an entire encounter today by having my familiar fly up with a lit hooded lantern and casting Control Flame on it to double its bright/dim light radius from 30/30 to 60/60

[rugged hawk]

You can build a shelter in open ocean?

[tawdry sentinel]

You can't?

[woven flint]

Probably, you can find wreckages and such :p

[blissful ibex]

Gift of the Depths, so yes XD

[rugged hawk]

What part of 'open ocean' did you miss? The seafloor miles below is not open ocean

[halcyon bison]

Really long rope

[loud tendon]

@stable turret apologies but we only allow group formation/solicitation in our LF channels. #looking-for-players would be a place you could check for campaigns. #find-a-game has the directions for how to use the commands to make posts in these channels for yourself

[naive cedar]

tbf a lot of media portrays the ocean like the floor is easy to access

[rugged hawk]

Wall of Stone's best use is crushing people, not making houses

[stable turret]

thanks for letting me know

[blissful ibex]

or building bridges and ramps c:

[crimson gulch]

galders tower

[rugged hawk]

Okay, but you can make those out of the corpses of those you've crushed with Walls of Stone

[blissful ibex]

that's what agonizing blast eldritch blast is for c:

[rugged hawk]

Oooooo, this is great! Well, assuming warlocks can learn it

[woven flint]

If there's a will, there's a way!

[random idol]

shall i learn 2014 or 2024 rules as a first timer? just wondering

[blissful ibex]

2024, it's far easier to deal with than the 14 rules for a lot of things

[random idol]

i apreciate it thanks for the help

[solar crow]

Welp my dm seems unhappy with me about something completely unrelated to D&D so this could be interesting during our session next week-

[crimson gulch]

best try to clear the air before the game

[solar crow]

What she's upset about literally doesn't make any sense I've had like 4 or 5 people agree it makes no sense

She's literally upset that I decided to take yoga when I found out she was taking it

[flint vale]

Then hopefully it can get cleared up somewhat easily

[solar crow]

Kinda hard to clear it up when she won't speak to me

She's been ignoring my messages all day

[crimson gulch]

oh thats bad

[solar crow]

It's her last semester, I've never had a class with her before, and when I found out she's taking a class that I can join that would be good for my body, I jumped right on that opportunity. She's upset with me for taking it with her or something like that

[rugged hawk]

What's even worse is that it doesn't look like Galder's Tower is accessible to warlock spell lists

[modest moat]

Is there any dms who’s isn’t interested oh just making a campaign just to promote there artwork and basically force you to pay for artwork just to play dnd? I’ve already been told that I have to pay for art to “make sure the aesthetic and vibe match’s so it’s better for everyone” I don’t think you need to have artwork from the same artist just to play dnd

[loud tendon]

unfortunately, this has become the scam de jour. Please report to Discord and block any users that try to make you buy art to play

[solar crow]

What should I do about my situation with the dm😭 😭 I'm literally so confused by her reaction and how she's acting. She's voiced concerns and I've tried to reassure her about them and she just keeps going back to them every single time the class gets brought up

And idek when I'll see her again cause we're supposed to be getting a stupid amount of snow this weekend so idk when I'll next have school

[modest moat]

I have been doing that but it’s still upsetting especially because I’m fairly new to dnd and all my attempts to play are just scams

[woven flint]

Well... what's she concerned about?

[loud tendon]

Did you already try to speak with her about it? Like "hey, it seems like you might be upset with me about something and I'd just like to figure it out"

[loud tendon]

totally understandable. Finding a group is already a time consuming process. It does very much suck that there are people out there trying to take advantage of others.

[solar crow]

About my reasons for taking the class and worried about me talking to her during the class which is yoga. She's said she hopes I'm not just taking the class to hang out with her and I've told her MULTIPLE TIMES that's not the only reason

[random idol]

wat to do when loose brain for read rule tuu much?

[solar crow]

No I haven't tried that yet. But again she's not even responding to me rn

[rugged hawk]

...oh, I see: out of the three spells added in the Lost Laboratory of Kwalish, only two are accessible to both Wizards and Warlocks. Of course the singular one I want is Wizard only.

[woven flint]

Womp Womp..

FIREBA-

[rugged hawk]

It's even worse because this means I can't have any of them on my sorc.

[loud tendon]

okay, well, outside of that, we can't really help you make it better. If she is worried you'll talk to her, take the class on another day or time. Or just don't talk to her when at the yoga facility

[woven flint]

We should know that WOTC is biased towards their Wizards by now

"Oh yes my beautiful magnificent Wizard! You may have these 5 bazillion quirky spells and Warlock can have the scraps!"

[rough basalt]

Warlocks getting all their spells back whenever they want, a billion invocations and now they want all the Wizard spells? The greed only spoke of in tomes /hj

[solar crow]

Can't as easily take it at another time it's a college class. And we've only had 2 classes, one of which was today and she wasn't even there

[minor cargo]

I don’t know your DM, but I know I personally really value sometimes separating out / compartmentalizing parts of my life.

When I’m at the gym, yeah I’m still a D&D nerd, but I’m not a D&D nerd right that moment. And it would irritate me to have to strike up a conversation.

[woven flint]

Hi, Steve :>

[rough basalt]

Yeah when I'm at the gym I just like going in, doing my workout and leaving.

[naive cedar]

as they should be

[sick roost]

Hi guys so I would like to learn how to do this dnd stuff me and my friend wanna do a campaign or something (im not sure how it works) but im just not sure how to get started

[random idol]

i have a question how powerfull of a wizard does one have to be to be able to summon and ride a dinosaur?

[woven flint]

You're not a Cleric enjoyer..!
You're..-
Rips away your Cleric Icon

A WIZARD?!

[severe rampart]

It's not called monks of the coast

[solar crow]

We hang out outside of D&D and class all the time at the community College. I've been friends with her since fall of 2023

[naive cedar]

And I would’ve gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for you meddling Warlock players!!!

[solar crow]

Heck we hung out just like last week at my house

[rugged hawk]

I'm NOT a ing WIZARD, Hagrid!

[woven flint]

I have nothing against Wizard, but I do think it's the most boring caster

[rough basalt]

How warlocks function is likely why their spell list is minimal

[naive cedar]

lol I don’t really have a least favourite caster. Ig Druid is the least good but I love them all

[random idol]

hi go to learn to play trust me im also new ive never played im finishing up learning the rules and moving to the handbook dm me to ask anything you want to!

[rough basalt]

There's some spells that'd go absolute insane on a warlock

[sick roost]

Got it thank you big boss 🫡

[random idol]

you welcome Polnareff , you should totally not die next time yes?

[rugged hawk]

Hmmm, Lost Lab does say these new spells can be found as 'supernatural charms' in the adventure.... they're not in the Magic Item list, but I guess my Warlock and Divine Sorc could go questing for some magic trinkets that can cast Galder's Tower.

[minor cargo]

That’s good to know! So it means that if you know her well and this is a sudden change, something new came up. Now it’ll just take time, patience, and empathy to work to the end. ✌️

[sick roost]

I'll try 🤞

[random idol]

im gonna add you since i love JJBA and its obvious you do too and were both beginers trying to play DnD

[sick roost]

Sounds good to me big boss 🫡

[rugged hawk]

So about this spell.... how would it function in open ocean, would you say? Would it... stay upright on its own? Sink like a stone? Float on its side? Remain at depth wherever you cast it in open water, maybe drifting along the currents?

[crimson gulch]

it aint a boat so that is sinking

[rugged hawk]

No, but it seems the only rules of construction are 'stury material' and 'multi-storied'. I'm thinking maybe.... ICEBERG TOWER.

Which could float, depending, or just hover at a certain depth since it wouldn't be completely non-buoyant.

You conjure a two-story tower made of stone, wood, or similar suitably sturdy materials. The tower can be round or square in shape.

What I'm getting from this is that you could form what is basically a round tower of ice and float it on the sea.

You could probably build on it with additional water and ice magic to complete its transformation into a personal iceberg house, with most of it underwater.

[random idol]

when rolling d20 for combat if i get for say 15 is that the damage i gave or how good i delt and also for 20 like the extra points

[idle oar]

The attack roll (d20 + modifier + proficiency bonus) is to determine if you hit

The damage roll comes after

[random idol]

question what dice is used for damage roll?

[idle oar]

That's determined by the weapon and your ability modifier

[random idol]

im still going through the rule book

okay e.g using a longsword human fighter 2+ to 15 str

[lapis radish]

Kinda dnd related, please @ me if you can name a good video game music option for fighting a red dragon!

[idle oar]

Your strength modifier would be +2
So d20+2+proficiency bonus (determined by character level)

[twilit summit]

You get +2 to hit and dmg

From str

[idle oar]

And then for damage, using longsword 1 handed, would be 1d8 + 2 (from your strength modifier) damage

2 handed longsword would be 1d10+2 damage

[twilit summit]

Just use 2-handed sword with 2d6

2-12 is way better than 1-10

[idle oar]

Well let them pick what weapon they prefer - this is not the #optimization channel and there may be benefits to going with longsword outside of raw damage.

[random idol]

okay what im understanding each weapon own dice depending on hands dice changes and strength mod + and if im over level one e.g level 2 it would be 2+d10+bonus

[idle oar]

Sort of - someweapons like longswords have the versatile trait which means they can be used wither 1-handed or 2-handed

[pulsar sinew]

I hate to interrupt with a question, but I was wondering how the spell shield works. It says the spell's duration is one round, but also says it expires on my next turn. So if an enemy that is right ahead of me in battle attacks me and I use shield as a reaction. Now its my turn, is the spell over since its my turn and is only good for the one action of the guy before me?

[idle oar]

2 handed does slightly more damage (but then you can't weild a shield)

[random idol]

all good no worries

[idle oar]

As a reaction to getting hit, you cast it and it bumps your armor class up, potentially causing that hit to miss. This lasts until the start of your next turn.

[twilit summit]

Also some weapons like rapier use dexterity instead of strength

[random idol]

okay okay so you have the option with some weapons to weild 2 handed and because of that the dice you roll changes?

[idle oar]

Correct - the damage dice rolled may change depending on the weapon and how that weapon is being used.

But the weapon will indicate the damage dice

[random idol]

yeah i like call dex wepons eeky weeky wepons because saying finess weapons is too fancy for me

[random idol]

okay so saying i forget this the DM will help correct me right?

[twilit summit]

Depends on dm

[idle oar]

Generally yes - and the group you're playing with. Good D&D groups help each other

[pulsar sinew]

So my AC goes back to normal since my turn is right after his, and I just wasted a spell, glad to know.

[random idol]

okay thanks i apreciate you all for the help im gonna go back to continuing reading the endless rules and hoping i dont forget this

[idle oar]

You didn't waste it if it helps you not being hit.

[random idol]

i can pull up rules mid combat right?

[idle oar]

Oh yeah - I can't think of any table that would say you can't look something up

[glass granite]

It’s just preferred to know the rules first, but even those playing for years need to search things up sometimes

[tame forge]

Not at all.

[pulsar sinew]

I multi-classed rogue and sorcerer, i was just seeing if it was better than just halving the damage with uncanny dodge, Thanks for the clarification.

[random idol]

i genuinly apreciate your help and green goners help

[tame forge]

Very well can be depending on enemy and situation.

Many times where not getting hit at all whatsoever is crucial.

[glad arch]

Its potentially fulling blocking 1+ attack at the cost of a spell slot vs taking half damage at only reaction cost

[tame forge]

Either not risking a concentration spell... low hp, enemy with hiiiigh damage etc.

[glad arch]

If your AC already isnt very high where enemies can still feasibly hit with +5 to your AC uncanny dodge probably is bettee

Shield on my paladin is amazing though, +5 AC on an already tanky character? Love it

[tame forge]

Yeah facts. Getting a 26 AC is nuts.

[grand onyx]

Halloooooooooo

[glad arch]

Hello

[random idol]

Hi

[grand onyx]

How are you guys?

[pulsar sinew]

Thanks, after the clarification it helps me to better make a strat for when that would be best to use

[glad arch]

Also with most dm's youll know whether or not shield will work before casting it as most ask does an x hit

[loud tendon]

Please don't link to posts in other channels

[glossy narwhal]

Nvm. My question is always being deleted

[loud tendon]

people will respond in the correct spot when and if they have an answer

[glossy narwhal]

I deleted it because I'm not sure it was worth asking

[fallow blade]

Guys do you think my party’s sorcerer might hate me if I stole his horse

[grand onyx]

Probably 😭

[hidden spindle]

I do prefer players not look up monsters

Particularly ones we're fighting at the moment

[loud tendon]

are you another party member or the DM? Why would you need to steal their horse?

[idle oar]

Oh that's fair - I was thinking more for "hey how do I make an attack roll?" in this context and couldn't see a reason why a table would stop that.

[potent mountain]

got into a campaign!!!

my DND resume grows

[glossy narwhal]

Never mind my question. Sorry for wasting everyone's time

[rough basalt]

Finished writing my worlds dragon and giant lore.
So now back to statblock making.

I really need more dnd

[glossy narwhal]

@hidden spindle I had a question in the art channel regarding some sword concepts for my character, but deleted it because I didn't want to waste anyone's time.

[fast latch]

Okay now I’m curious, what’s the question?

[fast latch]

That sounds more like #character-discussion maybe?

[glossy narwhal]

You can't send pictures there. How would anyone know what I'm talking about?

Asking questions is difficult on that front

Which is why I tend to keep quiet

[glossy narwhal]

Without pictures, no one will know what the hell I'm talking about

[hidden spindle]

Don't worry. Someone will answer to help

[loud tendon]

If you want to post your art with a questions for other artists to chime in on, #dnd-arts-and-crafts . Keep in mind though, that it's not meant to be a long form discussion channel. But what we don't allow is directing people to posts in other channels for more eyes.
otherwise tons of people would do it and the channels would be a mess.

[trail laurel]

What's your favourite use of command

[hidden spindle]

Grovel

[glossy narwhal]

I'm not looking for a discussion. I'm just looking for an answer to what the swords in question would fall under. That's all i need to know

[loud tendon]

usually "disarm" for 2014 rules.. for 2024 I'd say Drop or Grovel

[still plover]

Link the image, ask the question "what would you count these swords as?" This channel will do for that. You're under no obligation to discuss it, just check for answers.

[burnt valley]

Would memorizing statblocks sessions ahead be fair

[limber trail]

As a player or as a DM

[severe rampart]

That's sort of metagaming, if you're a player

[burnt valley]

Player

[rough basalt]

As a player that's cheating. Assuming you mean to use that out of game information

[limber trail]

It's generally bad form to look up stat blocks as a player, a lot of DMs consider it metagaming, it is cheating and I know DMs who would kick players for that

[lavish flame]

if you're a player and you're looking up Mind Flayer stats before heading into a Mind Flayer Colony, thats just cheating

[severe rampart]

I like to be surprised, I usually only look up monsters to see what they look like, not their stat blocks

[glad arch]

Unless its like a druid wildshape statblocks or conjuratiom statblocks probably not

[severe rampart]

-# I'm a changeling, for context

[rough basalt]

Yeah if someone does it in my game and I find out about it, they're done.

[glad arch]

I do always love a visual to monsters, theatre of mind is great but its always still funning seeing stuff

[limber trail]

As a player I like to encourage players to feel free to look at stat blocks for things like spells or whatever if need be but I really ask they don't legitimately look up my stat blocks in session if they're gonna be fighting them

[severe rampart]

Also usually the DM doesn't say what monster they're usually gonna put in the next session, correct me if I'm wrong

[limber trail]

usually not

[glad arch]

No but sometimes the campaign leads a certain way

[severe rampart]

The only thing I know about my next session is the PC paladin getting introduced and they're gonna fight us as an introduction

[glad arch]

Like this for example

[limber trail]

Sometimes you can know ahead of time by asking aroumd. You might hear about a dragon and end one session about to enter its' lair.

but yeah while in-session, monster manual is off limits

[still plover]

New player or someone you know?

[limber trail]

If players wanna learn about a monster, that's where observation and taking study actions helps

[severe rampart]

I think the rest of the group knows them, personally I don't, but they seem chill

[still plover]

I'd chat about the fight as players before it goes down.

[severe rampart]

What do you mean?

[still plover]

Literally what I said. Or it's "omygosh, lol, I didn't mean to cut your head off and immolate your body, it's just how my character fights. We'll rezz you later. So anyway, hi y'all!"

And you're sat there wondering what to do for the next three hours.

[severe rampart]

You have a point, especially since it'll be a 5v1

They have around 120+ hitpoints with 17 AC as well

Then again our party has the combined strength of a coughing baby as of right now, 3 supports with 2 fighters

[still plover]

Yeah I was more thinking that they might kill your character, if that wasn't clear. Anyway, a chat costs nothing and it's good to establish boundaries, especially for a bit of consensual PVP.

[severe rampart]

Oh right, my character IS a coughing baby...

[tame forge]

Non scripted PvP and interparty murders are far more exciting

[severe rampart]

We don't have access to revivify just yet...

But I do agree, love non scripted PvP

[tame forge]

Why would you revive someone you murder anyways. Doesn't that defeat the point?

[severe rampart]

We have to work together to defeat Baphomet the demon lord

[tame forge]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[severe rampart]

Unfortunately we were hired by a fiend to do so, so by default we are "employees" Of a fiend, as such the paladin needs a reason to work with us, that's why in the first encounter they fight us

[tame forge]

That makes sense... yeah no, cause we are like "working together" to raise the great demon lord baphomet by feeding it the blood of babies.

[mighty wharf]

I love breaking games, so of course I want to play a Wizard and cast the most absurd spells. Thinking of making a warforged artificer chronurgist. The idea is that I'd be a machine created from the Chronurgy Magic School, with the sole goal of bringing magic to it's absolute limits using machine processing, like a failed (or successful, depending on how you look at it) science project.

[tame forge]

We have def had more than 3 PC's killed in the name of FAFO.

Per the heavy hand of interparty violence.

Gotta break a few eggs to find the right cultists to team up with

Ya know?

[rugged hawk]

I can't even count the number of times I've been in cults and ended up involved in betrayals.

[strong wave]

Who is faffo

[tame forge]

F around find out.

[rugged hawk]

Lessee... there was that time I turned on the Ghaunadar cleric after his definition of 'freeing the slaves' turned out to be 'mass murder of said slaves'.....

[tame forge]

I mean... they are free now.

[strong wave]

That's what happens when you join the cult of betrayal should have read the fine print

[tame forge]

I don't see the problem?

[rugged hawk]

Then there was the time I captured a fellow cultist after leaving the cult and dangled him off one of Netheril's floating cities til he spilled all the info I wanted.

[tame forge]

Thats pretty tame tbh. I am collecting eyes from a guy rn. Just keep pulling em out and casting regenerate on him. He told me what I wanted like 3 sessions ago but now Im committed to the collection.

[rugged hawk]

Then there's all the times I helped sacrifice random prisoners to the Gelatinous Cube so we could restore Ghaunadar's power and sentience.....

Man, over a decade, we grew that cube from the size of a dinner plate to the size of a small city.

[tame forge]

I bet our parties would be frenemies.

[high ferry]

DM let me have 20 pounds of blackpowder, how bad did they mess up? idrk how powerful blackpowder is so

[loud tendon]

Please keep in mind we have #tales-from-the-table to share game stories.. but they should still be server rules friendly.

[tame forge]

Depends... do you have any idea what it is or how to use it?

[loud tendon]

Depends.. its dangerous for you to carry as well. Enemy with flaming arrows coyld be bad news hitting your little keg

[strong wave]

Fireball x 2

[rugged hawk]

The answer....is yes. Blow up the BBEG's city!

[high ferry]

i know its an explosive, its in a bag of holding inside a barrel for now

[high ferry]

so 16d6 fire damage?

thats very bad for me (im level 5 and have a weakness to fire damage)

[fallow blade]

It was funny and he thought it was funny to cast fireball in a small room

Another player

[loud tendon]

Were there also enemies in the small room or were they just hurting the party?

Either way, I usually discourage players annoying each others characters because it rarely leads to good feelings and progression. Usually just leads to pvp

But if that's the vibe of your table and the players and dm are into it.. then there you go

[fallow blade]

There were two enemies

[fallow blade]

It’s all of our first session, including the DM so i think it fits the vibe

[empty thicket]

1 more than the required number. Good call

[limpid plaza]

DID SOMEONE SAY FIREBALL?

[lean lark]

Why did the DM think it was a good idea to give a player fireball during their first session?

[glass granite]

Level 5+ starts for a first time group is ambitious

[stable lion]

random inquir. if i wanted to make a character who's whole gimmick was following the instructions of an unseen force that tells them sometimes vague sometimes direct messages about what to do in most situations with the consequence of death at the hands of they're partner if those instructions are unmet, would that be considered a paladin or is there a different class that it would play into

(i want to make an index proxy character from library of ruina)
(apologies if my wording or understanding of the class is foggy)

[glass granite]

That would be a warlocks likely

Or a very unfortunate cleric

What you’re describing isn’t much of an oath

[stable lion]

thank you

[high ferry]

LOLL managed to barter a magic item price from 2k gold to 300 through card games

[stable lion]

W

[high ferry]

its a deck of cards in a wooden box and im presuming deck of many things

[livid slate]

How do you make an encounter feel fast paced?

[livid slate]

Like a fight, everytime I host a one shot me and my players get bored (I'm pretty new), it feels as if we are just going back and forth in battle

Y'all got any ideas? From a gm POV or player

[high ferry]

deck of illusions :O

[fossil hollow]

usually adding descriptions and narrations, and trying to keep turns short

[livid slate]

What about the repetitive part?

[fossil hollow]

Well, you gotta add spice

[livid slate]

Hm?

Wdym

[dark pewter]

I have my enemy combatants do more than just roll attacks. Sometimes they'll strategize together, or use the environment to their advantage, or even banter with the party if the fight is on semi-good terms socially.

[livid slate]

Now that's interesting, mind naming an example?

[dark pewter]

Sure! In a recent fight against a clade of ranger bandits, I had the party get ambushed by just three, with a few more in the trees nearby. When two of them got below half health, they called in for backup, and another four hopped down to surround the party.

Or, with a pack of wolves for a lower-level encounter, having them gang up on a party member for a pack hunt, but they start to scatter and work less cooperatively as their health lowers, to signify fear and hesitation in the face of potential death.

[empty thicket]

Like, give each "kind" a way to fight too and how to act.
Animals would either attack the first they get close and when low hp will run or if cornered will fight back with all they have

Bandits of low tier would be dumb, attack anything that get close without strategy and try bad ambushes
High tier will try to ambush the weaklings of the team, call it casters or the less armored characters.

[livid slate]

Now how about not making it a back and forth? I seem tonstrugle when using minion summoner (or bbeg too) because they kinds just go back in forth like
Ha I did my op attack
Ha I also did an attack
Me too
Rinse and repeat

[empty thicket]

force effects, make it like a puzzle, in one round he aim to one player, next round and next player, you can do it like using the initiative to determinate who attack first and who attack last.
If the party is smart they will see the pattern and move around it

[livid slate]

Force effects? And make patterns for them to learn is smart.

[dark pewter]

Inevitably, any fight can boil down to a back-and-forth, especially at lower levels. But like Ti said, if you add some descriptions in to break things up, it feels less repetitive. One of my most recent boss fights in a level 16+ campaign, the statblock for the enemy had two attacks, a recharge, and like three spells. But how you describe their positioning, their motive for who to fight, and how they fight can make things feel alive.

[livid slate]

Also rn I'm working in an encounter with one bbeg that summons cat girl that bounce around everyone all the allies with low damage trying to witle then down, but that fast paced combat i wanted quickly turns into bore

[fossil hollow]

-# Ciferas, that you?

[livid slate]

So instead of saying
Your attack hits roll damage
You say something along the lines of
your hit seems to penetrate to the enemy! But just as you thought he was hurt he scoffs at you condesedingly
?

[livid slate]

Excuse me?

[livid slate]

Got it.

[dark pewter]

Things like that, yeah. Or even encourage your players to describe their own attacks from time to time, and allow them a small spotlight in combat