💬-general-feedback

[livid stone]

Disagree - the events in the Cerritos arc did not require that ship to complete. This arc, half of the listed events on the calendar require that ship, which means those of us not buying it miss out on the ability to get a huge amount of the event store currency and other rewards. Cerritos arc was well balanced.. this is not.

[tepid bramble]

Seriously done with the Franklin/Vi’dar/Stella/now Mantis bs. You’re killing us smalls.🤣 (and the timer ⏱ is annoying. Signs that scopy screwed up if folks here posting rather than playing. Just saying). And yeah. Scopy going full screw f2p. Total fingers

[fallen epoch]

Check what your responding to. I answered will the Mantis be sourced same as the Cerritos. This and the Cerritos arc were complete junk in my view. The ship should be f2p. What do you disagree with me on? No one is saying this is good 🤨🙄

[alpine elk]

@tacit obsidian will the advertised events in the arc calendar be amended so the thousands of players not buying the mantis can get some event store currency?? I have been involved in all event stores with the arcs and this will be the first event store I will have minimal activity due to the way the events have been designed

[livid stone]

I apologize, my bad. This slap in the face from Scopely has some of us agitated and not thinking straight 🙂

[fallen epoch]

No worries, I’m annoyed too mate. Don’t think there is anyone happy this time round

[wind vortex]

Good lord.
They need to sell a pack with a new mouse.

[native quarry]

Would you pay £100 for a mouse with only three zoom settings on its scroll wheel though...

[karmic flower]

is there a way to turn off the PC Shortcuts?

[elfin void]

So when did the online store increase the cost of their bundles? They used to be a bit cheaper there then in game, not much, but a little.

[fallen epoch]

Press alt

[iron pine]

Pretty sure he means all together.

[plush sonnet]

Scout ships should always drop messages

[native quarry]

Not yet. Lots of us have been asking for a way to turn them off, and/or remap the frankly baffling key bindings.

[nova latch]

Two pieces of feedback

Can I ask what happened to the August rewards pack €20 version?

Battle pass seems better this month than last, though i dont see why i, on lv28, am getting bps for a lv33 ship, and not even the whole ship at that

[karmic flower]

yes, but since "shift" is now a shortcut, you cant take screenshots in PC without shriking down the window and clicking outside the frame.... windows key+shift+"s" key is now broken...htting shift takes you to alliance window.... this should have been tested before rolling something out that breaks an OS feature

[fallen epoch]

Ah yes 😅 I forgot screenshots are broken on most devices now

[iron pine]

Maybe Ripper can fix it :\

[eager wave]

Hey Scopely, just want to "generally feedback" that introducing a new ship/feature, putting it behind a £90 instant pay wall (or a £65 one month paywall, or a £20 "to maybe get it a month and a half earlier than the rest of the great unwashed when you even deign, at some point next year, to tell us plebs when we can get it" paywall), and then attaching one third of the arcs events to only be do-able if you pay that £90, during an arc finale event store month, is up there with one of the scummiest moneygrabbing moves that I've ever heard of in mobile gaming. Cheers.

[iron pine]

Sadly they don't care whatsoever.

[nova latch]

And now Una gets the Lord lucan treatment. Last seen in event store but has since vanished

[rustic shuttle]

I hate the every month arc.

[tranquil dew]

No pressure Scopely devs but DS9 arc better be bloody amazing

[native quarry]

Free Defiants for everyone! 😃

[iron pine]

No pressure Scopely devs but DS9 arc better be bloody expensive
Fixed.

[exotic cloak]

Someone explain to scopely SNW doesn’t stand for Strange New Wallets

[nova latch]

Scorched new wallets

[willow raven]

I can’t imagine why people are so upset about a whale arc, 7 new currencies, a new grinding mechanic, a new griefing mechanic, event store locked behind a paywall

[polar basin]

And I even believe that some day you will even fix those iPad icons for me

[nova latch]

Cá bhfuil Űna?

[fallen epoch]

She was removed for an unknown reason

[nova latch]

At least they let me keep the shards i did get.

I am sorry i have to wait 5 min to reply to you

[fallen epoch]

No worries 😅 tbh I don’t understand why they removed her. It’s not like she is a top range officer for an epic.

[lament scroll]

Una was to be incursions only

[willow raven]

It’s basically everything we tell them not to do in every survey. It’s almost like they don’t care about the player base…. And now this chat time restriction. One more example of their lack of respect for YOUR time.

[fallen epoch]

The chat restrictions here have very little to do with Scopley they were put in place to help with creating feedback instead of arguments, check the pins.

[waxen kite]

this is what i dont understand .... im on 5th spot.... which is not bad .. but do you see the guy on 3rd spot? hes ops 57, HOW can i compete against that ? can someone tell me the logic in this kind of bracket range.

[tranquil shard]

well done Scopely! with newest update on the PC touch input does not work in ANY way. You ruined a perfectly working feature! 😠

[split quarry]

Complete rubbish Arc, please stop adding new currency and more grinding and just focus on fixing your game first. Really Getting bored of all the bugs, pointless ships and paywalled features. Yes make your money but not by screwing people over and make ships and events available to all!

[molten jungle]

Have an alliance mate who got Una. His conclusion is she’s away team material. 🤣

[molten jungle]

One of these things is not like the others. Visual misleading bug with the common ore.

[devout blaze]

Scopely logic. They think it motivates you to spend more money.

[cobalt gust]

flawed logic, it demotivates me

[balmy spear]

whatever you guys did to the zooming in the PC client... put it back the way it friggin was

[tepid bramble]

Every single time.

[nova latch]

Wads going to by elite bp until they yanked una. Havwe bought previous ones.

I feel sorry for anyone who handed over cash expecting a pathway to una shards ansd now won't get them

[devout blaze]

Until more people stop spending to show they are tired of the nonsense, nothing will change. They have proven time and again players are easily duped by false promises and temporary improvements that vanish the next month. Couple that with the illusion of caring through a "community manager" and they doa wonderful job of smoke and mirrors to get your money.

[shell swallow]

@tacit obsidian I'm also wondering why the highest lvl ship blueprint in the arc event store for a lvl 44 player is the ISS jellyfish. At least add the lvl 42 ships.

[surreal anchor]

I'm level 47 and I don't have the rares. And I do have the rep for all three

[shell swallow]

It's definitely a joke! Please scopely only let me get ships I don't need or want any more of.

[versed flame]

Enough people stop paying, and hopefully paramount will replace scopley PERIOD

[molten jungle]

They still haven't replaced Perfect World, lol. Once they give that license, they let them run with it bugs and all.

[devout void]

Ok...Una was in the event store officers earlier....what happened to her?!?!

[tribal bane]

@tacit obsidian yes need none of these bps but could use some Ktinga Valdore or kelvins or 4* miners

[warm lintel]

Oh great scopely gods we ask that you show us mercy and stop charging so much to get anything decent in this game.

[nova sierra]

I'm having more glitches than before the patch

[noble thicket]

Beginning to realize why the CCs were so down on this month/arc. It's utterly ridiculous and pathetic to attempt a pure cash grab in an event store month when event store currency is king. Half or more events requiring the Mantis? Which requires significant monetary investment?

Sad. Just sad. Disappointing. Why should players continue to care when it's increasingly and abundantly clear Scopley doesn't give two figs what we think?

Y'all can't even give a straight or specific answer to the simple question of "when will this purported refinery buff come, and how much of a buff is being made?

Guess player retention isn't much of a priority.

[nova sierra]

sames, got a new bug, so useful, can't touch anywhere on the screen, it's like the screen is dead, causes issues trying to get the buttons up to close the app, which seems to be the only way to fix this new bug.

1. Avatars and frames in chat go blank or straight up invisible.
2. Zoom out in system one time and can't zoom back in the system or in galaxy
3. Una dissapearing from event store

[fringe drum]

Mantis $160 bps + this research and then the grind

[ancient berry]

My game has been disconnecting when using wifi for the last 2 months, its costing me money

[nova sierra]

Way too many ships, currencies, and things to complete (not part of the dailies - Borg, actian, rogue etc) when will they listen and learn...😮‍💨

[ionic shard]

You guys messed up BIG time on the new ship. I can still summon out after I've been "punctured". My favorite pastime is to hammer at TC's the outlier ships and nail armadas - you have done NOTHING to stop me with that little grass snake of a ship. I just summon out anyway.

[edgy harness]

They won’t, especially after people dump a few million $s in the first day or three of this arc chasing rewards that, if just bought as packs, would have cost less.

[nova sierra]

Yep, cerritos very underutilized and mantis will be the same...

[lament scroll]

Being ops 28 I cannot even get the Mantis so I cannot even complete the events to earn the event store loot, where are the alternatives for those in the lower brackets? I might have even spent money on the new ship but I do not even have the opportunity. I can see that I am missing out on a substantial opportunity to play and earn event store loot...... I spend money on the game because I feel that I should pay for things I enjoy @tacit obsidian, I am not enjoying this.

[edgy harness]

The point is to force people to ops up if they want to take part. The sooner people keep going up in ops the sooner they can roll out new levels and ship generations, the sooner they can get the whales to spend another $100-200k to race each other on the treadmill.
Low ops people are their roadblock, they want to disincentivize you staying low ops.

[noble thicket]

And I still cannot redeem 100 (still unresolved, pointless) pvp/pve chests at a time, even though it was supposedly rolled out last month and then "fixed" this month.

What a pointless, ill-thought-out, waste-of-time arc.

[lethal knoll]

Do they know that this system has only tritanium nodes not dilithium ones?!?

[shell swallow]

How does everybody like this scopely response to my question about different content for the same packs for the same lvl players on the same and different servers?

[edgy harness]

It’s the usual bot generated non answer.

[vale wasp]

Yesteryear's news, and it wasn't well-received then. I'd imagine it's the same still.

[shell swallow]

This was the answer they tried to give me before I posted proof in the same ticket.

[twilit slate]

working as intended 😬

[nova sierra]

Anyone else feel that they drastically reduced the zoom in out sensitivity on mobile in systems? It's a lotmharder to zoom in and out now

[ancient berry]

Lag lag lag lag

[bold fox]

They drastically changed the zoom on everything, so now we have no control, great job!

Only 5 zoom levels at the system level, so we can't get the granularity to see system names unless you're at the closest zoom level, and you don't see very many systems at that point, which is useless

[hollow smelt]

First impression on this arc

1. Officers - generally positive addition but Rarity of officers is I believe complete miss in a current concept of sourcing of any officers shards in game.
2. Syndicate - continues to be pool of features game should have free and available from start, blocked behind a paywall or alternatively pointless waiting....
3. Ship - again 0 value for me, like with a lot of new features.

My problem is not in a ship itself, actually some of specialty ships are great but every new ship either adds more pressure to regulars mats or adds a new daily grind requirements. Year ago time required for daily grind was extreme, numerous more features added in the meanwhile, no wonder people are leaving feeling burn out. In example, once a day just going through gifts section, various stores, refineries, factions and picking up stuff which are on 24h cooldown requires at least 5min. Do I need to mention how much time is required to kill hundreds of hostiles needed for doing dailies and keeping stores/refineries fed? And keeping miners active?

[wise notch]

Is it REALLY necessary to open a "chest opened" pop up screen everytime you get an exobot from an actian ship as loot? That's ANNOYING as hell !

I mean, you get the ancient latinum thingy from the assimilated ferengi traders without such a disturbance

[tender cedar]

Event-Shop is disappointing... No Discovery skin and still... After months... No Terror skin 😒

[rare coral]

what on earth did you guys have to mess up the PC client for!!
Toggle option for the shortcuts???
And how about a shortcut for the actually most used option.. ATTACK 🤦‍♂️
Total waste of time and money

[fringe drum]

What i cant work out, if you test your latest cluster b4 releasing to players. How all the f ups keep happening ?

Everyone can forgive the occasionally hic up, but not with the p poor quality you continually do !!
After incursions tragic a pay wall too funny you have any idea except that bonus

[mossy leaf]

I have never been so bored with this game.
I don’t want a new, slow, expensive, niche specialty ship to grind more hostiles to give me quality-of-life improvements that should be free in the game for everyone.
I want something fun to DO with the ships I’ve already worked so hard to get and build up - more places to explore, more missions, more events. In Star Trek they don’t get a new ship every episode or every season or even every series! But they go amazing places and explore and and encounter new things and solve problems and work together as a team. PVP when necessary to accomplish something that mattered. When I started playing the game and exploring systems, there was a sense of all that. But by the mid-30s it was long gone, and I don’t remember the last time I’ve felt it in the game.
SNW is the best new Trek to hit TV in years, and this latest arc does such injustice to it, misses the spirit of Star Trek in general so badly, and seems overall to so deliberately try to frustrate players, that I’m having trouble making myself care about the game anymore. Logging in just makes me sad now, and if it weren’t for how much I love my alliance, I don’t think I’d see a point in playing at all.

[grizzled plume]

Agree 100%. Sadly I think many people now only sign in for the community. When this game finally folds (I predict DS9 will be a cash grab and numbers plummet in 2023), I suspect scopleys overall brand will be so tarnished that most players will actively avoid any of their games in the future.

[alpine ferry]

Most games have an arena mode, or somewhere two teams can go fight it out in a tournie.. I’m one of those that loved incursions and didn’t spend 24 hour spamming empty bases, or a whale.
But even so this Arc wasn’t thought out, doubled up on officers again which is just a lack of imagination by Game Design (it’s not the devs guys)

[fringe drum]

Also cant believe your bean counters are so blind too what delivering trash doesnt just effect thos months sales but months years lol

This
The hook was the mantis, all the bs upgrade it ect was the fish. You couldnt sell water in a desert

Heres a freebie scamely, reduce the grind by officers or a ship or many if not all players find something thats just not boring as

[plush sonnet]

So did everyone notice that their ships are now massively buffed vs hostiles because of all the buffs from the parsteel, tritanium and dilithium generators A and B?

Or did players notice nothing…like there are no buffs….that its all fake news?

[vale wasp]

Most players would not have unlocked those buffs yet because they're locked behind high syndicate levels. Until Mantis has had enough time to increase everyone's Synd xp income to high levels, the buffs are whale boosts.

[fringe drum]

Syndicate xp huge my level 18 to 30 cash grab nothing more

[plush sonnet]

Ahh! Thanks, so they are fake buffs poorly worded in the announcement and not caveated in the new building descriptions?

[fringe drum]

Nothing to do with money anymore its the continual disappointment of the latest poor quality you produce .

[vale wasp]

The buffs are very real, and very potent. Mantis and time is necessary to unlock them

[plush sonnet]

Agreed for spenders, but the buildings should not show the buff until/unless it is unlocked, else they are fake / falsely worded buffs

[fringe drum]

The mantis was carrot that your marketing team has no clue. What mantis or anything about it, has anything do with star trek questionable
Re mantis kinda yawn a new grind.
You could scopely explain things new content but so far epic fail

Why dont you promote your own content. Explain things the how ect has me baffled. Lazy or not enough dollars in it ?

[proud scarab]

Introducing a ship with 5.5 k freight when it needs at least 60k for daily refines is - mildly expressed - absurd 😡 1 Container brings you nowhere, so you need to refine 2 containers for 30k venom each 😖 And by the way: a 5-fold increase from 1 to 2 containers (6k vs. 30k) is typical Scopely-ripp-off again 😡

[nova sierra]

scopy will probs just buy a few more apps and slowly turn them to crap, muchly like they're doing with marvel strike force now, it was so much better before scopy owned it, will not be spending on either app while they continue make such crap content and make next to impossible to get anywhere as f2p or low spender.

[austere quartz]

I dunno, kinda looks like Scopely wants you to put some effort into the game to progress.....makes sense to me 🙂

[civic whale]

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/star-trek-fleet-command/id1427744264

[charred ravine]

Since there isn't an UI feedback channel, I guess this is the best place:
The news icon shows up a lot on my homescreen even I have already read them, the issue is that it hides the alliance helps. Please fix the overly persistent "news" icon or gives a different way to see that alliance helps are being requested.

[fallen parcel]

More non-canon garbage.
More and more grind.

[tender topaz]

When are they going to remove the mantis buff notifications they said they would, but didnt?

[tepid bramble]

And therefore a huge f you to the player base or anyone who chooses groceries instead of their ridiculously priced products 🙄

[stark wyvern]

When will we see cloaking for Pilum in faction store? 🙂

[balmy spear]

Well... I guess scopely dosnt need to worry about the light bill this month 😆

Seriously though, spenders need their own SLB brackets. This is ridiculous that someone can just drop around $14k (we did the math) and dominate a leaderboard.

[crude sandal]

everyone on that board is a spender... they just spent 100 on buying the ship in the first place 😂 So maybe first define how to classify the 'spenders' from the 'spenders'? 😄

[vale wasp]

Seems low.

[proud scarab]

+60% is still nothing when you need 60k per day and only have 2 tokens 😏. Doing it with Newton now in 36 system, that gives 58k per approach - but takes ages 😬

[austere quartz]

…. That’s the first level of research 🤣 and when you develop your vessel there’s also possibilities to add a lower deck office to increase your cargo size. And…there is more research to increase your cargo size. I’m sure you’ll understand where this is going…you need to put some effort in 🤣👍🏻

[lament scroll]

That's incredible

[hollow pike]

To be fair, the rent they pay for warehouses to store all their virtual goods has probably gone up like everything else these days. Need to recoup that somehow 😏

[tepid bramble]

I truly hope you are being sarcastic. 🤔. I have no sympathy for their “costs”. As I have moved out of government service and working in the private sector, I am starting to understand how we are where we are. Greed. Not service, but how much we can bleed things dry and move on. They are locusts. Every one of them from EA on down. Ah yes censored for worry about folks (not scopys) bottom line. There is a clue for ya.)

[hollow pike]

I was being sarcastic.

[noble narwhal]

A new set of officers designed to eviscerate the enterprise, or any explorer? F2p players sometimes grind a year for the ent and put a lot of work into it and now Scopely has seemingly decided to hate ent owners. What was behind the decision to alienate such a huge part of the player base ?

[vivid hedge]

Explorer owners deserve it though. 😏

[hollow pike]

As someone who worked to max their Ent, it needed a counter to be fair. But it’s Tribune owners who will benefit the most from these officers I think

[woeful coral]

Scopely doesn't care about its player base.

[vivid hedge]

Tribune users will benefit, I’m hoping to get mine in the next month or so. But they have already said explorers and interceptors will get some PvP crew. This is a rare time explorers haven’t been the first to get the shiny things. The officers are not the thing people should be complaining about the ship with no f2p unlock and the syndicate xp expansion are the problems. There is very very few events you need to PvP so who cares.

[woeful nymph]

@tacit obsidian Alliance announcements are all screwed up. Now we can't event put numbers or dots or dashes in that field. We're having to type all numerical things out as text, which is highly irritating for anything schedule wise that has a date involved. Please revert this. We used to be able to copy and paste from discord, now we can't because of the change that got pushed through with the last patch

[wintry cave]

With all the new crews/officers available, locking the amount of presets to a small number and tying it to Syndicate level is even more useless than before. Other games that have presets for crews/characters/etc have much higher limits and don't force you to have a specific player level. This should be looked at and rethought hard. @tacit obsidian

[supple thistle]

This new ship and whole current event is just one big reskin of the vidar and borg drones. Come on. I do enough repetitive stuff everyday. I could just do the swarm or borg quests and not know the difference. Just lazy.

[mossy leaf]

If the Holodeck is going to be the new sourcing for missions, then I think there should be an event that lets us earn pattern buffer tokens, or a grindable way to get them — old content shouldn’t be pay store or event store only.

[storm beacon]

Any idea why the zoom function has changed to jump in larger increments. It is very annoying. Also the new shortcut key mentioned as Scroll/Y just takes you to items as Y is also bound for that.

[fallen epoch]

Scroll Y means use the standard scroll wheel

Y means Y axis (up and down scrolling)

PC zoom issues are being looked into

[lapis dove]

Nothing any of you say will make a difference. The Scopely shareholders’demands count more than your own and as long as the formula (copy and paste) used each month earns money…nothing will change. There is zero incentive to put out quality content and ensure that everything works as intended. Balance and f2p doesn’t matter to them. Only keeping spenders (true spenders) spending . I dare scopely to prove me wrong. I find this suck em dry attitude to be super discouraging. The amount of time, energy and money that is required to be competitive in this game could be spent to build a better life in the real world.

[wide marsh]

A corporations only real responsibility is to generate profit for its shareholders. Some are better about seeming to care for customers as part of that, but at the end of the day, the only thing a corporation exists for is to make money for shareholders.

[lapis dove]

And the only real power people have is working together. In this case, with their wallets.

[worldly delta]

Scopley has a vested interest in keeping ftp growing. That way the whales have something to feed on. Problem is, they don’t know how to do it. They are trying to push upper 30s into the 40s, but because g3 uc output drops so much, we won’t because we will never be able to finish our g3 stuff that is required for 4*. I need about 30k more g3 uc of each before I’ll even consider 40 because if I was to move to 40 now (even with t8 augur) it’d take two years of refining to finish out my g3 stuff

[wide marsh]

I let myself get talked into hitting 40. It's been a whole 1.5 weeks now. They claim you get more g3 from event rewards etc than you do at 39. I think they may be right? but I haven't really tracked it. g3 drops off the swarm sunday events though, so I don't know.

[crude sandal]

Doesn't help that we just had a long interarc gap, followed by an event store - two things bad for material supply at the best of times 😂

Moving to 40/41 has the benefit that providing you can do dailies still, you start getting 4* stuff building up, and unless you're fixated on maxing 3* ships, suddenly there's a lot less need for 3* materials, so they go further

[wide marsh]

I can still do the dailies, but I have to use the disco to get there. Maxing a 3* ship would let me reach without that, but...

[tepid bramble]

Which makes the folks who come in here and carry water for them that much more exhausting. Like the trees voting for the Axe 🙄

[quiet flicker]

The Mantis cargo needs to be fixed. Even with the research maxed, it's still nowhere in the neighborhood of a decent G4 ship's haul until the upper tiers. And at that point, costs for refining are through the roof. I'm almost better off not upgrading it and using a G4 ship instead forever as it's currently set up.

[tribal bane]

@tacit obsidian as many are asking why are there no 4* ships in the event store?

[worthy lagoon]

@tacit obsidian .. some feedback regarding the Arc thus far... 👍

[livid iris]

A lot of us are not happy about paying out for the mantis and other game developments lately especially as times are very hard out there. In fact it would not surprise me if you lose a lot of players over this.. we do talk to each other and it’s becoming very obvious that this is turning away from a community of gamers with a benign and friendly company to run the game at the top who would all help each other out especially those who couldn’t afford to pay, to now Becoming a money making machine for that company who cares very little so long as the cash rolls in. for those that pay it’s getting to expensive.. for those that don’t there are now to many restrictions and requirements which limit the game and put those players at much to big a disadvantage. Therefore unless you are a millionaire in these tough times the first thing to go would be paying out for games.

[faint burrow]

Biggest annoyance I'm hearing from my team are those exo chest pop ups while grinding Actian, and also the inability to see how much time is left on those exos

[tepid bramble]

They don’t care. They are locusts. The whole lot of them.

[karmic mural]

How about an image adjustment? Make the box with the target smaller and slide it down 40px so we can actually read whether it's a regular or a heavy transport. It's 30-40 seconds with all those dm banners

[tropic sinew]

The constant pop-ups for these buffs while killing reds with the new Mantis is the most annoying thing. I swear Scopley doesn't even bother to test anything when they release it, and this is proof. I could have beta tested the new ship for 5 minutes and pointed out the problem. And IF Scopley does have a beta tester, please fire them immediately

[vestal verge]

Not a chance in hell that I will buy the Mantis BP's. I'm on a strict $19.99 diet with STFC. Everything is way to over priced for digital products that have a outrageous profit margins to begin with.
I don't mind spending some money and have spent a lot over the past couple of years but STFC is now putting out a product that no longer holds the same value as it once did. Not going to pay premium prices for a game that is now being run like a bargain basement second hand game.

[brazen prism]

So far this arc is great whale paradise. If you are a normal player and you give 20 euros for battlepass, there is little to nothing. Event store credits lower than ever, at my level (41) there is basically nothing in the store. Pretty much everything behind huge paywall. very frustrating 😫

[woven jay]

One is part of the other. Retaining customers is part of that responsibility or the cash will dry up. Unfortunately with the focus on quarterly results we have a lot of companies being run for the short term and not the long run. There is no need to make excuses for treating customers like garbage by saying it is justified because their job is to make money. There is always the possibility that even more money can be made with proper planning and growth for long term cash flow instead of short term cash grabs.

[wide marsh]

I wasn't saying that as a justification or excuse, just a partial explanation for the stupid, short term thinking.

[stiff marsh]

I am here for the same issue, exactly. Seemed to start last night when the shortcuts were shown on the keys. I see they are being looked into, just adding another voice.

[brazen prism]

@tacit obsidian My apologies for pinging you on discord. I have a question: why no level 42 ships blueprints in event store when you're level 41? All I have in the store now is worthless ships I already have like enterprise, gladius, intrepid all 32/34 ships.. event store need to give you opportunity to get blueprints for the next ships

[stone oriole]

Fix the game. It’s unplayable atm 🤷‍♀️💩
Pls fix the bug where at some point u cannot attack any hostiles anymore and u need to restart (u can also not zoom in/out)

• when will the game crashes finally be fixed?
• fix the brackets! Not really fair to have a 46-49 bracket 🤷‍♀️

[maiden dawn]

@tacit obsidian Making Una an Incursion exclusive just means youll be feeding the same few people a crazy amount of shards leaving 99.9% of the players never getting enough shards to unluck before quitting.

If you want to make her an Incursion exclusive, we'll need to be able to source her shards from incursion coins (in the wide level brackets that scopely likes, a few little exocomps wont make up the difference so are worthless to buy), or heavily jack up the amount of shards the bottom reward tier gets.

[little shale]

Would be cool to have a setting that minimizes the research tabs and the one with ships, officers, factions,etc...upon logging in.

It's a pain to keep minimizing.

[stone oriole]

All day long
Why?
Unplayable.
Uninstall 🤷‍♀️
Don’t wanne p(L)ay like this anymore 😢

[peak ginkgo]

@tacit obsidian is there a way you guys can make it so when using the mantis on a player.. the player can't summon out while the effect is active?

[maiden dawn]

The mantis needs a counter for its "cant warp" debuff (as summoning does currently). Is someone is going to go through the trouble to have a disco on standby on the off chance someone will send a mantis, they should be rewarded for their planning and preparedness.

Regarding your reply to this message in the next post (to get around the slowmode), first it isnt a warp out, its a summon, big dfference. Secondly, thats exactly what i mean, it should remain this way, it doesnt need changing.

[peak ginkgo]

Think about it.. if you use the ability on a player ship.. they can still warp out using discovery summon ability

[karmic mural]

Another thing . Really irritating have this pop up EVERY time I hit a actian ship

[glass lark]

Just hit the ones without the symbols......you won't get the popup.....but won't get the short lived buffs either

[cinder citrus]

I've said this in galaxy chat already, but stop making certain officers exclusive to certain events and make them more readily available. By keeping them only to certain events it's harder for f2p players to source them and you'll lose playerbase because of it!

[devout blaze]

If you haven't figured it out by now they don't care about free to play players. You are not even on their priority list at the bottom in the fine print. Their intent is to use fomo (fear of missing out) to encourage your spending. If you don't spend they have zero reason to care whether or not you get it at a reasonable pace.

[tribal bane]

Another reason not to have this ship 😂😂😂😂

[celest kernel]

"This BP is boring", not only one time I read this in Ac today. It hasn't really started and Players are mentally already done with it. Most no/low spender can stand that they can't compete with spender/high spender. But with Cerritos BP they introduced something new. You not only don't get the new stuff (ships, research, what ever), now you don't get whole parts of new Contend. And that makes player to leave the game, because it becomes boring. And that's no reason to play a game.
I totally understand that Scopley has to earn Money with the game, but I guess even for spenders community is a important part of an online game so when enouth no/low spender quit, they will quit too?!

[nova latch]

Agreed, especially as Summoning is only availible to someone ~lv30. You're going to see lower level players completely shafted during incursions if there is no counter to this

[blissful delta]

Some get a extra jelly brawl. What do the rest of us get, just the same old boredom?

[vast gyro]

I get that they need to earn money too but the prices they charge for packs are more than I have paid for full games that I am sure required so much more development time than this game. To then limit events to only those who spend money as well as give those players with big money a significant advantage over other players and THEN put so much emphasis on PVP is quite frankly greedy and evil. I see no reason for a free to play player to stay.

[ebon ember]

@tacit obsidian "Hey guys we know there is some events the majority of you cant do this month, so to make up for it we are going to give you another event that the majority of you cant do! Grab your keys guys! - Just another example of how out of touch with your player base that you lot really are.

[tribal bane]

Maybe at least add 4* bps to the event store everyone is asking for

[nova sierra]

@tacit obsidian have you informed the devs that pinch zoom is busted on Android or are they aware? It takes like 4 to 6 full pinches to zoom in or out full in both system and galaxy view and as you can imagine this is highly annoying

[nova sierra]

I just spent money on the Mantis and like special ships in the past figure it’s a tool to get job done. Once again I find it’s kinda useless tool since I do not engage in PvP by choice and now being told that I have to to complete my new daily e requirements. Once again you have taken a game that I am okay advancing by competing in events and brought about a game really want nothing to do with and still looking for a replacement, sadly we are expected to pay for a game with little return on investment and frustrating dealing with glitches and instabilities. Granted I’m not a whale per say but when does the game become fun again and less mindless work?

[woeful nymph]

Does it count as an attack when you debuff someone?

[nova sierra]

Honestly have not used don’t have anyone I’m fighting with

[nova sierra]

Debuff people doing armadas, start drama

There is already enough drama

[acoustic cloud]

Please roll back the zoom "improvement" it's buggy, gets stuck and makes me reboot my game like 2-3 times per hour

[gleaming geode]

@tacit obsidian So I got the Elite Battlepass and the $50 Mantis pack thinking that would give me the 100 needed blueprints to build it... and it will. Then I find out I can't do half the arc because I don't have the Mantis built yet. When I do get to build it the events will be over. I am ready to call it quits and cut my losses. It won't let me type how I really feel! The bad part is I spend all the time but now I have to buy 50 more bp I don't need? #@$%^ Scopley!!!

[wise notch]

why the hack do we only get 1.000 free condensed venom for the Mantis when you need 2.000 to do both the mantis dailies? I mean I can understand that Scopely may not want us to accumulate extra for some reason, but as there are no alternative sources for it, at least not any known to me, what the hack is up with that?

[pale saddle]

Has any thought been given to introducing a Vice Admiral rank? It will help managing an alliance and support the Admiral's role.

[glad cradle]

It’s been suggested multiple times

[obtuse patio]

Dear <@&509691205798592532> , has the Mantis popup already been deactivated? for me in the PC version it keeps popping up and it's really annoying 😂

[pale saddle]

Yeah guessed it might have. I've asked before but never saw a response.

[waxen kite]

because there wont be

[stuck delta]

Because they want to charge suckers $100 a BP for them 🤣

[spring escarp]

So as a lvl 40 player I'm in the same LB as a lvl 60 player. How in the name of all that is holy am I supposed to compete?

[stuck delta]

Leaderboards are only for whales - I've accepted this along time ago so just ignore them

[zinc swan]

So here's my thoughts. I should be excited for events and new content. I should be super excited for event stores. I'm not excited for either.

The new content is boring rehashes of old mechanics, behind a paywall, but too useful to ignore.

The August arc events so far have mediocre payouts and inaccessible to many players. And there is a noticable trend that events in general are becoming super pay to win.

If you're going to tie events to new content, it either has to be extremely fun/exciting or freely accessible to all. We got vi'dar grind 2.0 for $100. Woop-de-flappin-doo. And if you don't pay for the mantis, you get 1/3rd the event store currency.

Not very happy with you, scopely.

[covert grotto]

zoom speed on android is still extremely slow.

[odd kestrel]

@tacit obsidian I know you’ve heard it before, but I want to add my voice to the chorus. I understand and have absolutely no problem with pay to skip the grind and pay for early access. I chose to buy the $20 BP for the Cerritos and acquire the remaining BP slowly. I was ok with slowing down my Cerritos advancement. That trade was worthwhile for me even though it limited what I could do in the launch month.

In contrast, I am extremely disappointed with the mantis model. Event store months are critical. It allows folks to catch up on officers, ship BP, etc. It is an essential feature for the F2P and low spend. As the events currently stand, the vast majority of event store SMS loot is only accessible with the $100 purchase of a mantis (if that loot was SLB driven and supplemented by non-mantis sms I would be fine). The BP plus $50 mantis pack gets you the ship after a significant amount of event store loot has already been awarded via SMS.

Speciality ships should be acquirable month of launch. Perhaps F2P at month end like the vidar was if I remember correctly and $20BP to get early in the month. Pay to skip the grind, pay to get some event benefit month of, but everyone should experience the new content. That is not true this month.

For me, a $20 BP player, my month is as follows. Have zero exposure to new content and have no clue when that will change (no visible path to the final 50 BP). See the promise of generator utility but realize that is ages away (since I don’t know when I’ll get the mantis to improve the syndicate xp grind). See the promise of an event store, but be unable to realize it since I’ll miss the majority of event store loot (no mantis SMS access, which could be mitigated if there was a secondary scoring mechanic where having a mantis just eased the grind of acquiring event store loot).

@tacit obsidian part II: See the promise of an exciting new pvp crew (but since there is no meta and only one auction I expect to break my streak of unlocking all officers the month they are launched - except data who I am somehow still working on).

Put all of that together and all I’m left with is an incredibly disappointing month with nothing new/special to look forward to. This is the first month (and I’ve played for three years) where I am truly disappointed and lacking anything to generate excitement / interest. Even the ferengi arc was fine…the feesha has value for me. The events were blah but the ship has value so I was ok. That is not at all the case this month.

[iron rampart]

Yo scopley what's the deal in game this morning I'm trying to complete my battle pass can't see active hostiles in some systems ships don't look like their in battle when they are and chat seems to be glitching out...

[analog dagger]

not sure about you guys and gals....but arent you tired of having to buy a car payments worth of packs just to participate in a FTP game? This is way past old...

[swift steppe]

As above the game totally trashed right now

[smoky plover]

Too many new arcs.. not enough quality control. Same story as always.

[lyric zealot]

Where do we report individual server problems?

[analog dagger]

right here boss

[surreal anchor]

@tacit obsidian Lag lag lag

[dry copper]

And again and again. Same lllaaaaagggg on 060. Lost my 2 Mantis refinery pulls because of it… 😵‍💫🥳😵‍💫

[nova latch]

Still waiting for answers to a couple of questions.

1. Una

How soon is soon? Should i hold onto my actian kees for when she does return, albeirt diluted.

2. August Rewards pack

Where's the °€20 reward pack

[nova sierra]

@tacit obsidian My feedback for this game:
(1) More in-game currencies.
(2) Longer daily grinding.
(3) More pricy P2W packs and passes.
(4) No need to add actual game play, like landing on planets and meeting/interacting with civilizations, like Star Trek shows & movies.
(5) Keep adding to and polishing the UI without fixing bugs.

[acoustic cloud]

LAAAAAGGGGGGGGGG

[small silo]

@tacit obsidian Server 77 lag is really bad

[weak panther]

server 84 has lag so bad it is unplayable

[analog dagger]

what scopely should REALLY start paying attention too....is the CC's are doing streams....but are they playing STFC when they are? How many videos have been released lately with CC's playing another game
if I worked at scopely....and I had CC's doing content about my game playing other games on stream or videos.....I would go off in house and ask why?
we know why....shame they dont

[nova sierra]

That isn't really fair though - I mean - people who stream build up a community around their stream and people play other games. Do you want to watch somebody grinding their faction rep every day? Probably not and to be honest, it is difficult to build a community that way - so other games are a necessity to keep things fresh and interesting.

[analog dagger]

I dont mind them doing that....in fact....I personally find it refreshing.....that wasnt the point of my post....what was is they aint playing STFC because its dull....always broken somehow....and way past silly when some newly named copy and paste mechanic presents itself. Who wants to stream that?

[trail garnet]

Hitting hostiles not working right after update.

[quick marten]

Server 52, Major Laggggggg

[swift panther]

Server 26 also lag... nothing refreshes until you change systems.
Time to reboot your servers Scopely

[pearl trail]

Server 61 is lagged badly. Ships arriving before you can see them or interact. Hostiles rubber banding.

[open sundial]

Server 60 is borked too. Barely playable

[nova sierra]

That will stop - once they reach the corner to turn around or cross over each other, they will stop - eventually the hostiles in the entire system will stop moving and you will need to exit the system and go back in for them to start up again...

[balmy pewter]

Fix the game please, that is all.

[edgy harness]

Never will happen. Game will be abandoned by Scopely before they make meaningful changes for the players benefit.

[echo basin]

Can you please turn server 10 off and on again? Thanks.

[weak panther]

What did the Swedish chef say? BORK BORK the server is BORKED

[fleet cargo]

or kick them a few times?

[clever peak]

lag bad

[pearl trail]

Yea, not as much a problem as getting killed by a chaser or PvP before you can see your own ship

[nova sierra]

Been there, done that - got killed 3 times before I decided to leave my ship docked until the issue is resolved. 😄

[hoary lynx]

@tacit obsidian The Mantis refinery for Syndicate XP needs serious fixing. At Tier 1, for 6k you get 1506 Syndicate XP. At Tier 2 you get 1569 Syndicate XP but it costs 7k. This is a huge increase in cost for zero benefit. If the big incentive for this ship is the extra Syndicate XP, tiering up the ship actually takes away from the point of having it.

[lean pilot]

Put the PVP event on hold or just give everyone the rewards for it. kinda hard to pvp when you send your ship to a pvp system, and your ship ends up being killed before it shows that the ship is even in teh system yet

[dim hemlock]

Fix the game. It’s completely unplayable

[copper hinge]

Sever 82 is horrible too.....please fix it so we can actually complete events/dialies

[devout vine]

What. In the actual. Fluff. Is wrong with this games’ architecture? Server 49 — useless, not playable. Does scopley have a dev ops? Are they at an early happy hour? What’s up? Paying clients would like the 411 @tacit obsidian

[queen jay]

Lag as bad if not worse than during the first incursions.
No content for lower levels.
Pay to Play getting EXTREME advantage over No/Low paying players.

Why should I play again $copely?

[vale falcon]

so this cost £89 iirc and now the mantis costs the same but pays out x4 or more for the same price? 🙈 🤣

[molten jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/spock-dazzling-display-logic-star-trek-gif-16343803

[kindred prairie]

I love how people are so p_ssed at them right now they made Discord as slow as the servers to shut us up. Great job!

[tepid bramble]

And they censor you if you try to encourage a boycott due to their criminal market practices 😋 (waits for the sarbot)

[nova sierra]

Maybe if people would act like adults instead of emo-teens, they would not feel the need to do such things... 🤷

[fallen epoch]

Nah it’s just against server rules

[final plinth]

just a heads up - even with the mantis refinery it will take 2.6M syndicate XP to unlock lvl 30. If you are at syndicate levels 13-14 you are missing only about 2.4M XP. With 1500 a day that still is 1600 days 🤣

[dim hemlock]

Can’t target a rebuffed ship to kill it. What’s up with that?

[proud scarab]

<@&509691205798592532> These Debuffs are way too powerfull! My Mantis is only T-2 and just 1 single research done. Will stop upgrading my ships, absolutely useless and waste of money 😡

[fallen epoch]

1. the Jelly is horrible at PvP and using PMC crew while your loaded Sally could probably kill that without the debuff
2. remove player names from screenshots as it breaks server rules

[edgy harness]

I mean, that saladin was going to win anyways

[proud scarab]

I did NOT „incriminate“ any other player! Please read your own rules properly!

[fallen epoch]

1. not my rules I’m a player here
2. regardless your breaking the no public shaming rule

[edgy harness]

Jelly is actually good for pvp if you crew it right for the fight. I’ve killed everything from valdores to newtons with it at t5.

[nova sierra]

They were Centurions and Intrepids.

[proud scarab]

„Public shaming“? What did you smoke? Not even the slightest trace of „shaming“!

[fallen epoch]

They really aren’t known for how good they are in PvP. My Augur sits on ones 3x my size and I’m the lower ops player

@proud scarab see screenshot below. I’m not continuing this conversation with someone clearly here to whine about beating a Jelly they could beat without the Mantis. Have a nice day 🖖

[alpine elk]

@tacit obsidian something has gone horribly wrong with this arc, day 2 and 4 official changes are being made: una shards back in but limited - events being reviewed for non mantis paying players - jelly brawl as a compo event- debuff enemy sms requires additional res to be sent to players! It’s clear to say this arc is broken in almost all directions you look. Please feedback that snw part 3 arc is completely unacceptable at all levels regardless if people pay or not. I’ve played since March 2020 & have never seen such a giant mess!

[wide marsh]

I think I see where he's coming from. The rule specifies battle losses, bad crews, etc. In this case, the other player won and his complaint was about a game mechanic instead of the other player. It might be worth revisiting the wording of the rule to avoid such confusion in the future.

[fallen epoch]

Read the battle report. He was the Saladin! So he is displaying a battle loss as the rule states

[charred ravine]

... After checking your account, you purchased the Prime Syndicate XP pack on 2022-05-10 at 05:10:15... Exactly 3 months, 2 * 300 - me:

[tepid bramble]

I fail to see how that falls under the scope of that statement. There was no shaming. He is not faulting the person but the mechanics of the situation. No need to call out an issue that isn’t an issue. That is “over policing”. Or so I learned in the academy #.

[random lintel]

I can't even grind with this stupid ship that I had to buy to play in any of the events this month because I get a stupid pop every time I kill a red. And I have like 700 of these to hit a day. I am beyond frustrated with this game atm.

[tepid bramble]

Or better yet…folks need to…

[charred ravine]

Use a epic 3G or a 4G ship, crew yuki khan 5/11

[mortal helm]

Uhm making certain topics forbidden on the server is the very definition of censorship

[odd kestrel]

Oh yeah, but that’s way better than my 300 / day rate. The targets are absurd period. It’s just even worse absent the mantis.

[wide marsh]

Oh... I assumed from the tone (and didn't want to open the picture to read the names) that he was in the jelly... sorry.

[fallen epoch]

No problem your not the only one to miss that 🖖 anyways got your point regardless of who was who. Let’s move on now and keep this feedback only 😊

[trail pilot]

Service 70 is moving slower than a slow turtle

[sour bobcat]

77 got people rage quiting that are whales because there ticket are closed with out being solve. Also late is so bad ships are getting stuck and people have lost aramada drictive and my Alliance stop running aramada until you solve these issues @tacit obsidian

[proud scarab]

Saladin was my ship, and I won the battle. However, what I am addressing is, that this win is unfair! Even tough I had a better Crew on it, the Jelly is twice as strong as my Saladin, has the battle-triangle on it’s side and I only got 3% hull-damage. Why would someone upgrade ships anymore if the amount of debuff is so huge that a ship so much weaker can win a battle with almost zero damage?
Debuff should be approximately the same amount like the boost a Cerritos can give. Anything else makes upgrades completely uninteresting - and would cost Scopely a lot of money from all the materials- and research-packs.

[tepid bramble]

It’s not about fair play. (Especially with the entitlement thing going on in ALL our societies). Folks are all about whatever they CAN do, regardless of the effect on others. For profit. Be it personal or company. Doing the “right thing” flew the coup long time ago. And when you say something, folks remind you that you don’t live in a civil society anymore (by their words and conduct), you occupy a space in the world of Me, and MINE. And I have to get more than my share because I can. We have become and aspire to be, locusts, not Mensch. 😔. It makes me sad. (Me as well. Gen X. Respect is huge.)

[proud scarab]

You are right, I am from a generation where fairness, thoughtfulness and tolerance were important values! However, this discussion does not solve the problem I was addressing.

[crude sandal]

How many rounds did the fight go? People forget that the iss doesn't shoot as strong as an enterprise in its first few combat rounds, and takes a long old time to ramp up properly.
Would be interested to see the same match up without the mantis debuff in play

What were the crits like on big guns etc?
Your research will be decades ahead of his.
Jelly guns really don't get good til round 10 or later, and even then...

[proud scarab]

The battle was 7 rounds. And my ship was a Saladin, not an Enterprise.

[wide marsh]

I don't know of anything that shoots as strong as a Saladin in the first few rounds at that level.

[tepid bramble]

So #1 you might be dealing with a gentle giant. We have one of those, someone not even Malcontents go after. Nice dude. And since they are gentle giants they don’t realize how whacked this games pvp is. Cut the guy some slack. He has every right to be appalled by this. #2. At the end of the day all he is doing is venting. If you don’t like that, or do not feel the same , Charlie Mike, it’s an open forum and folks shouldn’t shamed for feeling righteous indignation at such lopsided and unfair play. #3 probably only reason he was pvping was for the event. And felt bad for the dude. Like when you realize you are playing kickball with middle schoolers and are kicking their but. Should you be excited?! Final, if your response is in anyway that scopy has no fault, then take it to the garden with that forest voting for the axe crap.

[crude sandal]

Main issue is that the iss is utter pants in short combats 😅 plus it was a PVE crew, plus the research, kinda guessing your mitigation was maxed and his was significantly less than, even with triangle and such.

I am very curious if you could arrange a rematch without the mantis debuff with the same guy? Because complaining about the debuff without the before and after results is less than useful information 😊

[proud scarab]

We tested the debuff abilities extensively. Players who were able to kill 15+ normal traders in Sol could not even kill 1 (one!) after debuff applied! So - why did they invest so much in upgrades, research and officers if all efforts get useless then?
As I said above, debuff should be approximately the same amount like the bonus a Cerritos can give.
BTW: I am Lvl 54 and the admiral of the number 1 alliance (or number 2, close match 😉) on server 153. Position 5 in power-ranking on my server, but only 128 in power destroyed ranking.

[tepid bramble]

It is a griefer ship. Designed to bring out the worst in folks. Because if they wanted it to be a sheep dog they would have made it free. These are the actions of a gaming company that is actively trying to drain every last dime they can before game dies. This ain’t my first Rodeo. 🤷‍♂️

[wide marsh]

Is the next step a cloak for the mantis that only takes 15 tetryons per use?

[proud scarab]

Unfortunately I have to agree. 2 or 3 whales (Lvl 55 and 56) on my server are about to quit. Many others who were very active and invested a lot are stuck on level 49 or 52 - and will not invest any more real money. Too many ressources to grind, too many currencies you have to collect. These good „payers“ all have demanding jobs (that‘s why they can afford to buy packs) and cannot play/grind 7 hours a day.

[tepid bramble]

We have had several 50+ open their bases to the server and just walk away. Running joke is one of our super whales just has his assistant play the game nowadays 😋 But the time sink that this game has become is ridiculous 🙄

[proud scarab]

They make the same mistake like many TV-stations! Running for quantity instead of quality. All these ridiculous reality-shows have enormous range - unfortunately the more rude they get the less money the viewers have. And the big sponsors go away, why invest money in a show where only people watch who cannot afford their products?

[tall stone]

Here's feedback: MORE MISSIONS THAT DON'T REQUIRE MAJOR CREDIT CARDS, PLEASE!

[proud scarab]

What is the motivation for Scopely to do that? How do they pay their employees then?

Problem is more that they move way to far towards rip-off things. It is a P2W-game, but there are limits and they currently stretch these too far.

[crude sandal]

I have no issue with pay to win.
The issue is when it turns into pay to participate

[rancid owl]

Hey...maybe give us proper updates for this month. I'm literally about to pop a 30 day shield and come back at the end of the month if nothing even remotely decent is announced/dropped by the end of the weekend for light spenders/f2p (under 100 a month)

[tribal bane]

uh-oh carls gonna come for ya smiley 🤣

[rancid owl]

Holy crap, not intentional, but just saw the message from UltimateDJz lol...Definitely a step in the right direction. If anyone from the STFC team bothers to read these. 👍

[glass horizon]

Yer right! This was set up from the start, leave it as long as they could to get as many ship sales to make it worth it then come in with a "oh look we are doing good"! load of rubbish

[vagrant ruin]

I have posted in several different areas of this discord and have submitted tickets I made a purchase for the $50 battle pass elite reward pack but I did not get the elite rewards unlocked I am unable to collect them can someone please acknowledge that this is something that is being addressed

[dry sinew]

Quite literally the same BS with the amalgam and just about any other grind-ship

[waxen kite]

@tacit obsidian next announcement should be that you will add limited amount of g4 ship shards in event store and maybe, just maybe, this month BP is saved 😁

[thorn elm]

this falls back in line with the problems we've had this entire year. more stuff with the old things being lost and unconsidered

[dry sinew]

The catch would probably be that they'll price them (like the G3 Epics) so high it'd be worthless unless you're within like 5 shards of an unlock.

[waxen kite]

well if they do 25 shards and i can get them thats 36250 faction credits i DONT have to grind .

[dry sinew]

As far as event currency goes, just the EG3 ships are around 21K per shard, so unless they're feeling generous, I'd assume they'd make u pay the same if not more unf.

[sacred garden]

It’s funny how snw una is epic but snw strike team in’s is rare. I think y’all screwed up

[deft anvil]

Going to kill a miner venom’s them and they become invincible !!! Wtf

[edgy harness]

It’s part of the great design quality. Gotta exit out of system view then renter it so you can target the ship you de-buffed. Given enough lag thst takes 10-20s off your timer, hooray

[noble narwhal]

Any idea why Scopely wants players to stop using explorers? Did they break the game on purpose or just the usual lack of any thought ?

[devout spade]

What's wrong with Explorers?

[quaint ember]

I hate this game!

Is there a way to check what I have purchased in this game.

[last nest]

depends on where you purchased but there are ways to check transactions on apple/google play store

[civic turret]

Leave it to Scopley to come up with something that has ZERO to do with Star Trek lore. Pathetic.

[civic haven]

You are making the game not FTP playable. This is why I quit Game of War. Extreme greed. I’m referring specifically to ST Una and the Mantis and more long-term these 100M ships I can’t compete with.

[true zealot]

Go to galaxy view...than back an u can atk

[limber relic]

@tacit obsidian I am getting the consumables for killing Actian ships and am able to cash them in at the consumable store, but how do I use them? Are they instant? Where is the timer so I know how long before I need the next one?

[wind vortex]

Is this intended to be a tedious, months-long mission, or did someone accidentally put one or two too many zeroes in?

[vale wasp]

You'll need to contact CS if you've purchased something and did not get the contents expected. I'd use the email option in #👽-how-to-contact-support .

[vale wasp]

Mining missions can be done faster if you have multiple mining ships with a base in the system. At times, it makes sense to archive a mission until you have the pieces ready.

[brazen oracle]

I've worked a long time to get an Enterprise with a maxed Marcus and I can do pretty well in pvp now. And now scopely has thrown all that out? What incentive do I even have to play anymore? I understand they have to make money, but this isn't even pay to play. This is something far worse

[barren kernel]

So you rolled out a new ship and mechanic without even know how f2p would be able to source it? Nice…🤪

[edgy harness]

Exactly. That post is nowhere near as heartening as they think that is.

[barren kernel]

“We’ll just figure it out next month, release it now.” “Wait there’s bugs? Just release it anyway. Have cs either ignore the complaints, tell them it’s working as intended or we’ll give them a gift of 2 snw pike shards”

[edgy harness]

If I were eco I’d tender my resignation after those posts, go work for someone less abusive towards their client base, like EA.

[fringe drum]

Players been playing a long time and dollars just had time money made pointless with the mantis

[last nest]

we've already been through 5 Community Managers ... lol

[nova sierra]

this is the most skewed reward system i've seen in an arc yet

[edgy harness]

Sad this is, no one got the joke in that.

[devout blaze]

Are you really shocked? The incompetence of the dev team coupled with the pure greed of scopely make for this dumpster fire.

[icy vault]

Wait until you get the one that gifts you some parsteel for donating millions of g3 ore. 😂

[cosmic glen]

So did NetEase buy Scopely without anybody knowing about it?

[wind vortex]

Paui signed on to the ticket, logged off and went home. 🤷

[tawny walrus]

Strike Team SNW Una has completely broken the game mechanic. A maxed enterprise running a top notch PvP crew will get absolutely CRUSHED by an Augur. How does this balance the game?

[nova sierra]

Dont worry the explorer crew will be just as op r-right guys??

[wind vortex]

Wait these are BASE stats? Stacking each round?!?!?

[mortal helm]

Is it really any more unbalanced than that enterprise getting crushed by a 50 something? "Pvp" is already broken, what's the problem with one more thing being unbalanced.

[rose warren]

Love to see entcels get their just desserts

[tawny walrus]

Yes - it stacks. Unfortunately, that makes an explorer completely useless against a battleship now. In fact, I think they created a class of problems that extends way beyond a single ship (Enterprise vs Augur - which is why Scopely did this). They've always had one ship that's better than the other of its generation. But instead of just worrying about building a more balanced game for future ships, they've created a problem which will extend beyond a single generation of ships.

[nova sierra]

Even if they are it makes the other officers irrelevant....

[nova sierra]

Good point. So it... it'll be 9 officers to rule them all...

[little relic]

Did anyone else notice that the Mantis flies backwards in all their art? Did no one tell the art department which way was forwards or backwards? Event art all shows it flying backwards, forward is the other way around.

[nova sierra]

There's a lot of moving parts in a game like this, I guess these things just kinda happen

[cerulean quest]

@tacit obsidian , hey mate ! How about you put 50 mantis bp in the treasury pack ? That could add value to the pack and gives people who always buy that pack anyway the other 50 they need to get the ship , since there already 50bp’s in the batlepass. Aldo it seems unfair maybe to the full compleet and semi packs …. But he , it’s a treasury pack 😜

[final tide]

https://tenor.com/view/2020be-like-gif-25917409

[fringe drum]

The incompetence is tied to dollars, ya gotta love greed

Unfortunately you do realise scopely put out poor quality over and over again = reduced everything

[orchid flower]

Just wanted to add on my agreement that the new features introduced this month severely unbalances the game, particularly for those who haven't focused on battleships. And not just for f2p but for spenders as well. It seems shockingly and poorly thought through, and renders a lot of the time and effort and money that's been put into the game by players useless.

[fringe drum]

Lets see this arc big fail for quality incursions big fail quality begs the question was deliberate . You surely cant be that incompetent all the time.

Btw i dont believe your incompetent its just scr.ew players out of dollars

125 % bug free arcs and events my trust in scopely due broken stupid events ideas zero information on anything and giving information is so bethetic not funny. Your bean counters influencing this epic fail addios if this is your mantra.

[charred ravine]

Come on scopes, we are one refinery short of #10, welcome to star trek refinery command

[charred ravine]

Yes - leave miner’s overnight that should do the trick. Nobody bothers hitting oc dil ships.

[spare ivy]

I'm an op 45 dolphin that's pretty heavily into PvP (#9 in power destroyed on the server). The one aspect I like about PvP is coming up with ways to punch above my spending. And I have to say this arc rubs me in all the wrong ways:

• half of the events require paying for the new ship
• the new ship is OP to an absurd extent (e.g. a 1m mantis killing a 4m ent with minimum damage)
• apparently, the new ship also granted literally 5x more syndicate XP, which also now grants big buffs to shp/hp/dmg on higher levels (plus officer shards)
• introducing multiple OP officers (rare Una, and the other 2 officers of the set) with no counter that will essentially dominate the battlefield against those without them in an unprecedented way. Explorers reverse-punching battleships will no longer be a thing, and this crew set is now The One Right Crew for battleships, all you gotta do is spend the money and you don't even need to think about what crew to use in what situation
• all explorers, not just ents, are now garbage when fighting against ships with the rare Una

Basically you are forced to either spend $100s to get the new content or become obsolete. Sure one can argue it's always the case, but the extent of it is just ridiculous. Instead of helping non-whales at a healthy and relatively constant distance away from the whales, the game just keeps pushing them further and further apart, toward a point where there's really no reason for the two to exist on the same server at all.
But not only that, as Rev points out, Scopely will surely release similar crews for interceptors and explorers, and THEN also different sets for intercepters killing explorers and other intercepters and so on and so forth... Meanwhile, all the officers we spent years grinding will become worthless in PvP.

I am just going to stop spending any money, step back, and reevaluate if a laggy and buggy game that can arbitrarily flip the table on the players at any time is really worth my time and money.

[frigid perch]

This arc really does remind me of Game of War, where each update effectively unbalances the game and makes all previous upgrades worthless. The Mantis provides a way for people to (disable and) destroy much more powerful ships. It seems that whoever uses the debuff ship wins, at least from the screenshots I have seen. Research, Exos & Cerritos be d*mned. Even ship level, rarity and tier don't matter as much anymore. 🤷‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️

[cloud pendant]

I’ve actually just quit the game because of it (I’m lvl 44 and very pvp orientated).

[lunar pollen]

I can live with the new overpowered stuff, what has me is the Failure of the new ship design and refinery. Only reason to take it to tier 2 or higher is for the debuff bonus, after T2 you are shooting your self in the foot due how refinery costs out scale ship cargo increase.

[final socket]

It's become near impossible to find lvl42 epic armadas on our server now. I don't understand why they have such a long respawn time. There is a long cool down on the crate purchase in the alliance store so the respawn time on armadas is unnecessary and just leads to player frustration

[jovial sentinel]

Totally agree. I’m even considering to quit playing this game at all.

[errant brook]

same here. This Update needs to be undone or at least Mantis and Strike team massively nerfed.

[rare coral]

100% this, it's absolutely ridiculous.. Not only a blatant money-grab but it makes a LOT of ships and crews completely obsolete.
Really, really bad move.

[mossy leaf]

Ships that already exist in the game that would be more fun to have than a completely invented Mantis (and yes — I included a worm!):

[kindred siren]

LAG ALERT!!!

[potent silo]

It's not an alert, it's the baseline state of the game

[kindred siren]

Is it just me experiencing LAG? I cannot see anyone else complaining.

[fallen epoch]

Just logged in. Game seems fine for now

[kindred siren]

can u check now? its lagging now.. it seems to be on and off

[fallen epoch]

Been running for 11 mins now don’t see anything

[kindred siren]

its gone away again.. in any case.. i will just push through this phase as always.. no gain discussing this further... slowmo enabled.. so cannot respond immediately

[fallen epoch]

We can always move to another channel for further talk. Also double check the lag is the same if your on another wifi or mobile data. That way you know it’s the servers acting up 😅 Have nice day mate 🖖

[polar basin]

See how Scopely bugs encourage us to collaborate? Really nice of scopely to encourage that by intentionally adding bugs with each patch 😍

[proud scarab]

In the near future PvP battles will always require 3 ships 😡. Fighting-ship, Cerritos and Mantis. Otherwise no chance 😏. Imagine the chaos during a takeover 😖

[potent silo]

@proud scarab you forgot disco to summon the mantis and cerritos 🙃

[wide marsh]

And having 1 ship of each type there (once all the new mechanic crews are released) so you can have your interceptor catch the STUNA battleship before it gets your explorer, etc.

[proud scarab]

Yes, it‘s getting way too complicated and even more time consuming with all these ressources you have to grind and also way too many currencies 😖. No time to spend 7 hours a day to collect all the stuff you need for refining, etc. Fading out now, just waiting for the 6k gas I need before I can go 55, but that‘s it then 😏

[wide marsh]

🐟 .

[compact sun]

Anyone having very bad lag when going to the new systems?

The new mobs give special loot and I think the way you get the loot is putting load on the server. Need to test by avoiding ships with buff.

[nova sierra]

Suggest you make the Elite Battle Pass priced around $7 instead of $100. The $100 price shocked me for a one month duration. I can see spending more strategically for my objectives. However, BP events seem more a side game. I just started playing as a f2p player until I get familiar with the trade-offs of patience versus progress.

[tepid bramble]

My advice? Don’t spend a dime till you are at least ops 36+. You getting ridiculously no value for your money in this game honestly, and younger servers and new players get hosed the most. Still angry about the month long pack I got then compared to what others higher than me got for same price. Seriously, do not buy ANYTHING till you have figured out what is the best most efficient use of your money.

[worn relic]

Incorrect... It will just require a battleship with strike team una on it... Then no one else will stand a chance even with cherry/mantis etc. 🤣

[tacit jay]

@tacit obsidian any chance for some Synthetic Ions to show up in a gift chest? The refinery cooldown is 3 days, and the event is 3 days, I've only been able to clear the first tier of the SMS and my cooldown is long after the event finishes - and with the small cargo of the mantis at early tiers, there's a very hard time getting enough mats to do a 2 chest pull anyway.

[shrewd comet]

Hi everyone, since I failed to unlock the augment area at the beginning of the game, I can't complete several missions in the game. Therefore, my question: Is it possible to integrate a subsequent activation into the game, for example as a mission? Greeting

[fallen epoch]

Remove player ID please

[shrewd comet]

👍

[warped vault]

Will Jaylah shards be in the event store like last time?

[fallen epoch]

Doesn’t look like it

[warped vault]

They just added Una, can Jaylah be added too then please?

[fallen epoch]

They readded Una. Given Jaylah was asked for on day 1 i would hope they add her but I don’t think so at this stage

[jolly laurel]

@tacit obsidian idea , d3 seperatist ship, pur a boost towards seperatist boss ships much like the vidar on probes etc...

@tacit obsidian, another great idea, 4th faction, xindi, alsoidea 3, put a bridge on station so we can actually use base officers, i dont know anyone who sets ther ships up each night before loggin off, this is what the shield is for,ok thats to many ideas for you as is, youll prolly get richer off them, ;p

[elfin root]

Dudes, time to upgrade that 1980's toaster oven you're running these servers on, game is unplayable again

[jaunty trellis]

Hi, does anyone know when the EU#109 server is going live?

[tribal bane]

Hey don't knock the 386x with SLI voodoo cards with 512k cache and 128mb ram and a whole 250mb drive

[spark nova]

You had a HD? Totally jelly.

[nova latch]

Una has vanished from the store It said she would be availible foer 18 days!. Think I managed ro get less than ten lousy shards this time. What a complete and utter farce.

[chrome cape]

What is the deal with this new auto zoom on the mobile client? Can you please turn this off or give us an option to turn it off? It’s horrible. No one asked for this. Why do you guys waste time on “enhancements” that only make things more frustrating. Like the “targeting” grabbing onto systems and bases when your in the middle of a PvP battle. Sheeeezus.

[bronze nova]

@tacit obsidian So why are swarms not paying out as much? I used to get enough for two of the three RSS options every day. Now I am only getting one. Any reason scopley lowered this reward? And no I have not leveled up ops in weeks so that should not affect the results.

[strange jolt]

You get 180 of the biominerals/biotics per day. You were never able to reliably source two rss pulls from swarm refinery through dailies alone, always been that way.

You probably had biominerals/biotics saved up and you were just going through those slowly (20 extra needed per day for second refine) until you ran through them.

You can get biotics from swarm armadas, which can supplement your dailies if you want to do that sort of thing.

[peak narwhal]

@tacit obsidian : nice game update in AppStore and no patch notes… where are the communication???? Still so poor

[hoary blade]

So far I think the new officer going to be nice make s the triangle mean something

[proud scarab]

Congrats, Scopely! Our number 2 player on the server (Lvl 56) just uninstalled the game! Got too time consuming and the Mantis makes the huge investments he did for the ships obsolete! 1 or 2 more whales to leave soon 😏

[bronze nova]

That is incorrect. For nearly two years of game play I have always been able to source two. Usually got 210. Because you could eventually pull all three. But there was a noticeable shift to less dropping that we are now seeing on my server.

[keen dagger]

Why not add the Infinitus vidar skin to the event store?

[bronze nova]

Why was the Amalgam removed from the cosmic clean up store? I was working on that and now stuck mid way. Yes, before any of you try and grief me, I am aware it is in the current end of arc stuff, but it was in the cosmic clean up store before.

[tepid bramble]

And the arc stores has awful value

[vale wasp]

Amalgam has a pull limit in both stores, maybe you've reached that for cc.

[fallen epoch]

What Candle said 👆

[polar wren]

heh

[sacred garden]

Yeah it is stupid creating officers specific for base when you can not assign to base. Just as stupid as having an instant tab that you can’t use if if you have all requirements and the lat. as stupid as this new ship being so powerful it breaks the game.

[glad cradle]

Many the instant tab is not available because it’s something you can’t get with lat; like uncommon or rare materials.

[manic citrus]

Hi scopely.. when can we get hijacked legionary & d3 clocking. Ive been playing federation faction. I Need cloacking ship. I still far away from enterprise

[bronze nova]

So only 44 BP? That is an odd number.

[proud scarab]

Just an example how absurdly strong these debuffs are 😬

[winter citrus]

With pmc vs a good crew u get the same results 😂

[vale wasp]

Why hide the crews? it's essential information to determine how strong a ship is

[vale wasp]

No, CC has 13x 8bps or 104 total. If you only have 44 left, then you've obtained bps from another source and have already built one.

[glad cradle]

@vale wasp Is there a battle calendar pinned somewhere? Thanks.

[vale wasp]

What's a battle calendar?

Like schedule for Origin takeovers? pinned in g-c

[ripe thicket]

This has been the worst arc in months, if not one of the worst arcs every. The event store is great but you are also screwing over the player base. Not only is there NO RESOURCES for events, but th spend events are EVEN MORE. last month, I needed to spent almost 9k in uncommons. This spend event, it is almost 13k. About a 40% increase, while getting a SERIOUS cut in resources...FOR THE SAME OPS LEVEL. Even if, IF, I dumped everything into resources, I will still get less than last months battlepass. And that is just the uncommons and rares. That is NOT even counting the lose of para/tri/di.

There is absolutely NO WAY to earn the resources needed for the spend events. This is beyond unacceptable. I have not bought the battlepass and it looks like o am not going to.

And don't think I didn't notice your lie. You promised us a monthly bonus refinery. Unless you are going to call the 1 day one you gave in honor of Nichelle Nichols the bonus refinery you promised, in which case you are dishonest and did a huge disrespect to the memory of her, you are trashing the game and reputation.

I may just take the rest of the month off. So glad I have not bought anything yet.

[brazen prism]

real, absurd and shameful action by Scopely! no materials to upgrade your ships, technology and buildings. Same with events.. 👎

[fallen epoch]

That generally happens during most event store months the only resources are from the bp

[brazen prism]

We can best place month peace shield and say goodbye to the game for the whole month. You will miss nothing and you get the same when you well play the game "nothing". Scopely with this arc is worse than dentist appointment. Low credits for the store, no materials in the events, all is behind the paywall. What is the point to play this game right now, tomorrow and rest of the month?, Short answer: it's not

[nova sierra]

What's the annual roi on investing in ships?

[proud scarab]

Check this. And Corvus is REALLY expensive to build and upgrade 😖. Unfortunately many others of my alliance and on our server also consider quitting the game 😖.

[livid stone]

Broken

[fallen epoch]

2 variables not taken into account. Cerritos support and Mantis Debuff. Doesn’t really prove how good ST Una is. Repeating the same test without either then repair bill is still enough proof

[fringe drum]

Thats bs considering cost to get corvus and repair/build costs

[edgy harness]

Lol, wait until some people try out some of the strike team crews that could really wreck big ships.

[fringe drum]

Alot better ways to make game more even that wouldnt negate alot players years of time and money . The short sighted cash grab going cost you alot.

Suggest you get/fire your marketing people moving on promoting Ds9. Tease videos or outline of new QUALITY content coming.

[edgy harness]

Most people don’t even want new content for a couple months, fix and address the long term problems and issues people brought up in the quickly-abandoned suggestion surveys and votes.

[hoary blade]

Na u maybe the triangle working now and using a limited resource buff and debuff. It would have been the opposite if the other ship was debuffed and the other ship would have won

[livid stone]

31mill beating an 84mill triangle or not is a bit much.

[fallen epoch]

You are forgetting the impact Cerritos support has on a battle also

[hoary blade]

You still have the triangle so which has been broken and not really too effective so that makes up for some and then like again you have the debuff and buff the debuff is neutralizing one whole entire crew set. If the box are switched it'd be the same way if there was no buff use The other ship would have won. The triangle should mean something. The new crews are just making that more apparent. Now you're going to have to have people have d4 to take out augers and augers to take out enterprises , enterprises take out d4s. And the same thing with every tier. And gives you a shot at hitting someone in the tier above if you have the right crew.. It makes everybody including a whale vulnerable brings a little tiny balance

[stone oriole]

@mr Seb

[quiet wadi]

without an pvp System and Devs don't testing before update this buff is no reason

[fallen epoch]

This doesn’t make any sense to what I said

[quiet wadi]

in my Opinion it does. Payment Players with Saladins can Stay on low lvl cap and kill now higher ones and other way round. Cause of Ceritos and Mantis and just one u pay enough € u are able to destroy an normal player like u wants to. With having an System such gameing style once can just fight each other doesn't matter if u have ceritos or not

[fallen epoch]

Still doesn’t make any sense to what I said. The issue i’m commenting on is about expensive G4 ships going boom because of ST Una

[hoary blade]

Yes but it'd be still within the triangle. And it's not a guarantee depending upon the crew You can still overcome s t una with sheer power unless you have the mantis buff. In vice versa they just made the triangle actually work a little bit is what I can tell

[acoustic cloud]

@tacit obsidian please remove any reference to "support for the memory of" uhura from your marketing materials. This dishonest way to turn a 3-day bonus refinery into a 24 hr event, and then strip out all the materials from the ARC is just shameful.

Scopely pretends to listen, but in the end just makes false promises, and 💩 on the memory someone they claimed to honour.

[fallen epoch]

Yeah I agree. Mantis and Cerritos play a part into this. “PvP is broken” tbh it’s diversified (quote was from somewhere else)

[quiet wadi]

they are going boom cause € nothing else. this game gives low budget player no chance anymore

[fallen epoch]

This months 3 day bonus refinery hasn’t been removed.

[hot tendon]

@fallen epoch what's the point in getting a korinor when it will just blow up against a ktinga?

[fallen epoch]

Whats the point in getting a korinar when a Newton can blow it up? Surprisingly same question and answer

[hot tendon]

Eh Newton is same level of ship or have you not played the game. Might as well skip all explorers and have a laugh at those who haven't with the 50 bucks officer.

[fringe drum]

They need fix this as all players efforts, ships officers are useless overnight. what the strategy was is totally beyond me . Ya bottum line wasnt it seems.

[fallen epoch]

I'm a player so yes i have played the game. None of the ship classes have ever been balanced. Once upon a time explorers were avoid at all costs. Now they are pray that Augur doesnt have ST Una on it like Ent's pray the other Ent isnt running the TOS crew

[hot tendon]

No mayflower was avoid before it was buffed in the hull, anyway I can see I am talking to walls when you say in a serious way the game is balanced when you have ships 1/4 power killing another because of this officer.

If you can't even admit/see it's wrong then there's no point in making suggestions to improve like remove 25% of base mitigation rather than all mitigation and you are wrong about avoiding all explorers too and as I presume the meditator between the players and scopely all your doing is telling people black is white and up is down etc

[fallen epoch]

Ent was slight overpowered before now Augur and battleships are even more slightly overpowerd. Im not saying its perfect balance, im just saying the officerr brings a new dynamic even if she is a bit overpowered. It might allow for new crews to be used.

[hot tendon]

Then you need to go back and read and BTW it's totally pointless doing shield mitigation research and this page for feedback and scopely is an absolute joke because you as I presume as meditator can't even see/admit there's a problem but you tell lies about all explorers were avoided to back up your propaganda I'm out thanks for not listening but arguing.

[mossy leaf]

Little something missing here…

[fallen epoch]

Im not a mediator, check #🌠-rules-and-roles12 for what my role is. Im a player same as you.

[fringe drum]

They cop alot abuse, for problems not of there doing, to be fair

[fringe drum]

I have a problem with another moderator, as our opinion is were whinging. And there opinion only one counts. Which is not useful !!

[trail sky]

First of all, they have sold so many of the new ship and strike team Una there is no way they are going to nerf either. Instead you will have to spend another $150 next month for the counter and so on and so forth each arc just to not go pvp obsolete. Your options are 1) spend to keep up with pvp, 2) be happy just mining and hostile killing, or 3) delete the game

[warm canyon]

How do you refine actian venom into condensed venom

[glad cradle]

In the mantis refinery once you have built the ship

[fringe drum]

Yes

[true zealot]

It's a new tab under the Latium/ dvor button

[warm canyon]

@glad cradle I'm not talking about the daily Discovery has a daily and you can refind its resources

[proud scarab]

And another good player/payer also just left the game 😥. Became too time-consuming with all the ressources you have to grind now 😖. And also no real perspective to keep up without paying lots of $$$ .

[nova sierra]

Event store months always swap mats for event store currency. The BP this month at least looks consistent.

[nova latch]

The €20 August Rewards pack is missing from tbe store. Onluy one i see is €100 pack

[fallen epoch]

Which one do you mean? 🤔 show a screenshot of the €100 if possible

[nova latch]

This is the €100 one

[fallen epoch]

I’ve responded in pm 🖖

[torpid canopy]

@tacit obsidian not a fan of not being able to access LVL locked missions. The new mission that is locked to 34, i would have been able to get and archive if you couldn't do it in the past. But from the sounds of it I would had been able to have completed it easily. Will these missions still be available after the arc?

[gloomy vale]

@tacit obsidian ^^^

[steel escarp]

@tacit obsidian we are now 2 weeks into August and still no refinery improvement that was promised by the end of July. What is the improvement going to be and when will we get it?

[fallen epoch]

His last response on this was either this week that just ended or the following week. So only 7 (8) more days to prove it right 😅

[untold orbit]

There will be no different crews when the whole ST will be gotten. Diversity is gone.

[steel escarp]

Ok guess we will wait again.
Wow we can only send 1 message every 5 min in this channel. so much for communication.

[polar basin]

You are saying that you can write such a message in less than 5 minutes? 🤯

[steel escarp]

mining ticket event points went from 1.3M yesterday to 2.4M today with no change in rewards.

[coarse scaffold]

Could we get a log of who buffed/debuffed our ship with a Cerritos/Mantis? It could be part of the battlelog, for example. It'd be really nice to be able to track this sort of thing.

[fast gulch]

Isn’t it amazing how the lag is so bad you can’t do anything. Click on the store though and the lag is totally gone!

[nova sierra]

yes, after relounging I can’t get in anymore.

[scarlet sundial]

Horrendous lag on server 20, PC and mobile client

[nova sierra]

server 162 seems to@be down :

[fallen epoch]

Did you increase Ops?

[steel escarp]

No change since yesterday. Didn't even finish a building.

[fallen epoch]

Got a screenshot of the 2 events? And can we continue this over pm? since the channel has a timer 🖖

[somber bobcat]

Maybe just me, but this colour scheme is not ok

[polar basin]

Introduce dark mode 🙏

[nova sierra]

This is the real issue affecting whales. I don’t want to see them leave but waving ST Una and the Mantis around like it’s the only reason they’re going is hugely disingenuous. The game has hit a bit of a plateau, incursions has placed a whole new dynamic on them because where the whales on one server largely ignored each other in terms of gameplay because it was just a wallet contest, another server just turns up and rinses them. Now they’re getting robbed where before they sat around unshielded knowing nobody would attack them. On top of that, they’re having to defend their underlings which means throwing their big ships around which means on top of being looted they’re having to fix their ships a lot in 24 hours, and to throw all of that in now they’re getting more and more encouragement to learn what all those different people do on the ships to be able to keep at the top.

[cunning orchid]

I am also interested in this answer as I am seeing the same thing.

[fallen epoch]

We passed on some discrepancy with a few peoples event between yesterdays and todays mining ticket event. You are welcome to post screenshots too, but hopefully we get an answer if it should be different or if it should have been the same

[upper parrot]

EU 142, ops 41 (done before arc started):

[lilac pond]

When are you going to fix the lag? Been terrible ever since your usual wonderful maintenance

[fast gulch]

Would you like to buy some used tires that won’t hold air? Why buy glitches then?

[waxen kite]

@tacit obsidianIf its true that Scopley will nerf g4,g5 ships farming Venom I hope they planning to do the same for every other special systems like swarm, exchange, borg, ect, i mean it would only be FAIR to do it , as at this point the cargo of Mantis even with research is just not enough, and I urge the team to reconsider any further BAD steps they going to do in future, because I have a feeling its just gonna get worse, you had this kind of scenario with Stella and it took you only 2 years to increase cargo and other things, maybe this time try to react like... now. thx

[proper relic]

Wow another shocking update - STgrindandrepeatC

[fallen epoch]

Where do you get this from? 🤔

[waxen kite]

a source i wont name it .

[nova sierra]

@tacit obsidian prime mantis cargo. The people are hungry for it. $99.99 dolla

[fallen epoch]

NO

[latent ruin]

I hope they don’t it’s the choice of grinding 11k per mantis run or 90k for my newton. At least with the newton 2 runs I’d enough for everything

[fallen epoch]

If what Jick says is true i have no doubt it will happen.

[latent ruin]

Then it will kill any chances for pure f2p players. The hold isn’t sufficient enough to get even a basic amount per run.

[fallen epoch]

The mantis needs a rework. More base cargo and better refinery

[hollow bone]

Why every log in do I have to clear news I have already seen? Why is money the only way to progress? Why is there even thoughts of this game advancing any further when it doesn't even function without glitches and crashing out everyday? Everyone says "Oh it's just a game just have fun" but it demands hours of attention and grinding to even keep up barely with the pay to play players. It's no wonder to me players are quitting daily and no response or attention given to anything of problem just more and more requirements to "play and have fun." Well I am not having fun neither is my friends that struggle with me. I know nobody cares I just wanted to let whomever know this is very taxing and slowly coming to an end. @tacit obsidian

[trail garnet]

And when are we gonna work on the pile of issues?

[covert grotto]

scouts should have a guaranteed chest drop.

[vale tide]

Haha I was just about to post that! Yeah scouts should be 100%

[crisp dock]

I accidentally bought the $100 pack in the iso app instead of the web store. I always buy my packs in the web store for the multiphasic credits. I sent a ticket explaining my monetary lapse in reason and I got this reply. I spend a lot of money on this game. This is 100% unacceptable!

[brisk marten]

The webstore is a rip off anyway. It should be 30% cheaper.

[terse dome]

So capt StrikeLaan with strOrtega StrUna on max Tribune... burns from first round, 2nd round with max StrUna hits 60 shots straight to hull. Now you cloak Tribune and debuff EntD or Rotarran or the other one and hit it. Now you have g4 epic SMOKING a g5 epic. Maybe possibly you guys should test some of the crap you're releasing so it doesn't completely destroy existing combat. Just a suggestion.

[vale tide]

Scout drops are horrible now

[acoustic cloud]

Hey hat happened to the galactic Armada pack?

[mortal helm]

They don't "have" to do any of that. They can acknowledge the event is stupid the server rewards inadequate and do what the rest of us do and move to a sub 20 system and shield through the event.

[nova sierra]

Hey hi sorry we see that you're a long term high spending customer but it would be impossible for us to help you because it would be impossible to help you

[severe wren]

Hey Team, when will cloaking for rare 46 ships be available in the faction store? 😄

[zealous quiver]

every 5 minutes you have to restart the game due to constant freezes

[fallen epoch]

That’s to be expected. It’s not like you accidentally bought it.

[peak narwhal]

good functions with shortcuts at PC version 👍

[golden token]

So I just wondering why we are able to use speedups on everything except for scrapping. Just wondering why that is.

[fallen epoch]

Probably to stop auto farming ships for higher mats

[brave prairie]

Today i find , every time i restart the game, all settings being resettet like "sound on" or "extended zoom off" . also all active missions and ships show up as "new" . please look for that scopely =)=)

[stiff latch]

@tacit obsidian If one thing is going to get me to quit this game, it is the constant intentional impediments to growth. Level locking ships is inane and pointless considering that I cannot enter deep space until level 38. The whole "You can't enter deep space until you've grown, but we're only going to let you grow so fast." is highly irritating.

[jaunty trellis]

Does anyone know when EU server # 109 is going to start?

[fallen epoch]

Nope

[jaunty trellis]

Does Scopely use auto-scripts to start up new servers and has no employees who do that or what? confused

[trail sky]

Hey I just stopped playing, lvl 41 battlepass spender: 1) can’t accrue uncommon or lat fast enough to get to Ops 42 - I’m looking at months to get there; 2) can’t partake in the mantis or strike team crew without spending so I am pvp obsolete overnight; 3) another grind mechanic added (I can’t keep up with the other 10 as-is) that I can’t get to without spending which means when I do get there the free way I’ll be months behind my peers; 4) you’ve basically reduced the ftp and battlepass only players to mining events and hostile hunt events which I dislike, I always preferred pvp but I’m useless now except for killing miners which gets boring; 5) in summary the fun is gone so I quit.

[proud scarab]

Quite a few also quit on my server for that very reasons. Lvl 45 to 56 players, so good payers in the past.

[mortal helm]

What was the point to your comment? Do you have to step in to counter every complaint ? The guy has a point and you can't resist defending any criticism why? You could just let the complaint stand but you have to step in to defend scopely and blame the customer. Maybe take a step back and just say nothing if all you have to do is make excuses for a corporation. Did you honestly envision yourself doing free pr for a gaming company as a child? Or do you just like chastising people for fun?

[fallen epoch]

I’m a player. I use logic not excuses 🤣🤣 get a grip

[nova sierra]

The point is that the multiphasic is part of an “encouragement” to use the web store as it’s far cheaper to Scopely than either of the app stores (see Epic Games vs The World) and you neglectfully completed that purchase on an expensive platform (to both you and Scopely). Importantly, as the contents of the pack are effectively different because of that, would you consider it reasonable of Starbucks or Costa to refuse a refund because a few days ago you went and you said you were eating in, but remembered actually you took it straight out anyway? 🫤. I’ve done the same thing myself a few BPs now, and grumbled about my own hastiness under my breath; never would I have thought to chance my arm anyway and I certainly wouldn’t expect it to be taken seriously 😅

[nova latch]

Really not happy with this evasive support response. Access to the monthly €20 reward pack makeds the game playable. Im not going to buy 50 or a hundred euro pack. Not going to happen. Please put 20 euro pack anfd explain properly and in publivc why theres no €20 pack in my store

[wide marsh]

Basically, from my uninformed perspective, they remove possibly useful cheaper packages to encourage spending players to buy the more expensive option. It doesn't change that everything is about 4 times more than it should be.

[opaque marten]

The Mantis will likely drive me out of the game. Without my ftp patronage, the game will be less enjoyable for those who do pay. I share this because I have played for over 2 years. Doesn’t look like it will occur for much longer.

[nova latch]

That is stupid.

They have some hope of getting €20. The Pope will become aProtestant before I give them €50

[hidden night]

Pretty much. Once you reach a spend threshold the cheaper packs stop showing up.

[nova sierra]

Bear in mind that by the time you’re mid 20s the £/€/$20 pack is basically worthless. You’re far better off buying a fiddy every few months or hundo every 5 than buying a 20 every month, as much as I know that means you have to swallow spending that much in one go vs dribs and drabs.

[wide marsh]

Personally, I'm never, ever spending more than $20 at once in any game where it is not an upfront purchase of the game (i.e. buying Starcraft 2). My personal opinion 2.5 years into playing is still that the $20 packs should be $5 and all the $100 stuff should be $20. Everything is tremendously overpriced.

[nova sierra]

Struggle to disagree with that.

[trail sky]

I didn’t mind spending $20/month to be an average player on my server. But it’s at the point now where my $20 keeps me below average. There is also a huge timewall (or paywall) to get from ops 41 to ops 42 and I’m not interested in stagnating for months on end to fall even further behind average. Too bad, I really like incursions but without new mantis and strike team Una crew I am suddenly pvp obsolete. Straw that broke the camel’s back, deleted the game.

[zealous quiver]

Server and game is down

[wraith rover]

I have to agree with Loopdaed. Mantis has made this game unplayable for anyone who does not spend $. Been playing for years, and deleting the game.

[waxen ginkgo]

Why doesm't scopely develop a pve and a pvp sections where you have a choice between going pve as opposed to pvp so the higher players can't pick on lower players trying to develop their game? (edited)
[11:51 AM]
You can have a choice to go either and even switch back and forth

[nova latch]

Think thizs is called the Picard maneuver

[hollow bone]

Same glitchy crap no event loaded but did after several minutes also when joining KLN daily buffered and couldn't do anything is fine I just logged out now function is not a problem, still nothing from Scopely Bank and Trust "Seize the Play" great job Devs (devils).

[fresh valley]

I get that a lot too - think it's down to the record llllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggg we are experiencing. Instead of packing more into the game they should concentrate on making what we've got work

[hoary lynx]

@tacit obsidian A huge deciding factor for me on this month's Elite battlepass is the timing on the f2p Mantis path. If it's not being announced until December, then I'm not paying for an accelerated path since I'll be waiting until February to get it. But if the f2p path starts in September, then there's value in paying to get it early since I'll be able to see it soon. We need to know what the f2p path will be for the Mantis before the end of the arc.

[nova sierra]

I agree, knowing this is significant. We have all asked 🙏🏻

[violet latch]

Anyone running the PC Version having trouble with the Discovery ship hyperdrive not working. I double checked the software version and it's up to date.

[craggy saddle]

Check the pinned messages in #👾-bug-reporting 🙂

[drowsy scroll]

Quick question. How do I get the needed warp tokens to level multiple feeshas? TIA

[craggy saddle]

Afaik event stores only, might be mistaken though as I am not at that point in the game yet

[hidden night]

If you've unlocked it through the normal game path it should be in your event store.

[pure nebula]

Only 2 reds in Geody? botany bay

[hidden night]

100% agree, they botched the Amalgam launch with no ftp path for months then launched the Cerritos with the ftp ready and in place day 1, everyone was perfectly happy with that even thought it was 6 weeks or so after the ship launched. Problem is, I think a lot less people bought the Cerritos because the ftp path was so close at hand so now they're panicking because they don't have a ftp path at all and can't fathom why people are upset at having to pay $100 for a pvp ship thats really a glorified grinder.

@tacit obsidian the content creates keep saying thats devs they want to reduce the screen time people have to spend in the game doing mundane tasks yet every arc brings yet another new currency to farm, new grind paths or daily goals that require significant time investments, events that are extremely unbalanced and again take significant time only to have milestones reduced once enough people complain. I'd ask you to take one thing back to the dev team and the cc's, they really need to go back to and look at the TNG and Duality arcs, the rollout of those arcs, the event structure, the payouts, officer releases, the meridian release completely ftp unlocked in the basic battlepass, the Ent D skins free through battlepass, those arcs were pretty much perfect and every arc since then has gotten worse and worse, the paywall is getting bigger and its being pushed earlier.

[drowsy scroll]

My first one, I get the warp tokens as I tier it. The other 3 are stuck bc I can't get the warp tokens to tier them.

My first is tier 8 the others are tier 4 with no growth potential bc lack of warp tokens.
Never in event store except for original. I bought the 3. Why buy if tiering is not allowed? Wasted $$

[hollow bone]

This server is useless no one cares or will respond Goodbye. Slow-mode that.
Give your free ships and Battle passes to @nova sierra ain't right

[autumn echo]

Any chance of getting the USS Terror refit in any events any time soon? I took part in the last one and got half the shards, which was probably a year ago or more and not seen one since!

[edgy harness]

If they can keep the content creators even mildly happy, they will ignore all the other problems going on because it just means they get free advertising for what they want the rest of the players to buy.
CC’s are never on the player side, they are on their side, and they are monetizing anything they can, and that includes your viewership and any sway they can convince Scopely they have over you.
They get upset like the normal players, but man do they turn around quick and brush it all under the rug once the smallest gesture to them personally is made.

[daring elbow]

Does someone know which levels are seeing the Franklin Mk II components at the Event Store > ship parts?

[reef burrow]

Whats with the refinery?

It seemed to get better now its gone absolute pants, mostly giving single figure sums of uncommon at L34.

Often I get zero uncommon?!

[spare briar]

100% agree
i severely dislike all CCs

[river fjord]

Just curious…is there a reason the extra Syndicate loot purchasable has been pulled from the store? And will it be coming back?

[versed flame]

The problem, as I see it, is that the refineries for mats needed to grow are so tight, the F2P folks are starved out of competition. This leaves the p2p folks lopsidedly stronger and therefore bored to tears. Scopely says their model is conflict drives profit. But with a population starved for mats to grow, any time scopely tries a fun new trick to drive PvP, it just angers the entire crowd. Scopely is basically shooting itself in the foot by starving players (in an attempt to drive more profit) into creating ROE (to save on costs and help growth) or just quitting. Throw in all the bugs, forgotten promises, forgotten adjustments, and lack of communication and you have a recipe for disaster. Most of the players on my server that have quit in the last year have ALL been big spenders on our server (within my sphere of influence). The one thing scopley could do (improving the mats refinery and the false linear progression of other refinery payouts) they seem to be dragging their feet on. Maybe they are hoping another pandemic will hit and force players back to the game? Who knows.

[hidden night]

That pretty much hits it right on the head!

[civic haven]

What does this one do again?

[hollow pike]

Probably been pulled while the syndicate event is running. After all, if you’re going to buy SYN xp during the event, Scopely want you to buy it from the cash store, not the event store

[twilit slate]

I have argued this for years - it is not up to Scopely to dictate my purchasing habits. If I can't afford the more expensive option, then I will (if I so choose) buy the cheaper one, even though I know the contents will vary when compared to what I would get with the more expensive one - in saying that, the pack costs are just off the charts for this game, I hope all the Scopely execs are enjoying their gold toilets.

Other games still give you the cheaper options, but once you spend x Scopely move your available spending bracket, and that is just another reason for not spending and in my opinion morally wrong - they are feeding into a potential addiction and not giving a toss about those that are struggling in this economic climate and have the gambling tendency (and Fear Of Missing Out - FOMO). All gambling apps here is Australia have what they call a deposit limit to prevent problem gamblers from going crazy - Scopely just ramps up the flashing lights and asks for your credit card.

[hoary blade]

I hope more sourcing come for the strike to. Was close on epic but dies don't have the kinda pocket book

[river fjord]

It’s been missing for a while. I was saving up to get it, its been gone for a while.

[potent silo]

@river fjord it's still in my store. Lemme check

[river fjord]

I just checked my store, the only thing in it are the point packs, not the prime extra syndicate loot.

[potent silo]

Ha the cash store ^^ we all though you were talking about event store. I have syndicate pack in both tho, except the prime but the cash store, scopely rarely say what they put in or not

[late kettle]

Anyway you can change this 10min chest to either 60mins or stack its a pain to keep clicking lol - well from PC side

[craggy saddle]

20% bonus piercing of your base.

[severe wren]

Mh, Scopley did some moves here, which will anger the f2p and low spenders. The Generators are the same. Red the patch notes, was happy finally useless buildings get useful. Than it’s Syndicate locked 😂 On such a high lvl…I don’t understand why, besides the obvious. I rather spend that money tho into nice Travel and see the world 😀

[reef burrow]

7, 0, 7 uncommon from 3 chest refines this morning.
Awful.

[nova latch]

When you need more shards to unlock one lousy officer than is availible in the store where is the insentive to grind out more tha 70k.

Can you stop putting limits on shards in the store.

[novel oracle]

When people said "Make generators better" and "Make warehouses and vaults actually worth something" what everybody meant was that the warehouses should hold enough to actually do something with it.

Parsteel warehouse should hold enough for you to upgrade your 2 most expensive buildings
Tritanium warehouse should hold enough for you to repair all of your ships and upgrade the most expensive component (or 2) on one of your ships
Dilithium warehouse should hold enough for you to complete at least 2 of the most expensive researches at your level

Parsteel vault should protect enough for maybe half of an expensive building upgrade (not <1%)
Tritanium vault should protect enough to repair all of your ships
Dilithium vault should protect enough for half of an expensive research item

Generators should produce enough that it feels meaninful for your progression in the game
Generators should hold 8+ hours of what they generate so that you can let them run overnight and collect in the morning

Generators should not have a paid feature attached to them to increase hull health, shield health, and damage of your ships. Any boost provided by generators A & B should also be attached to generators C, D, E, F, G, and H

[rustic lynx]

I know there was allready feedback about mantis and cargo size... but pls buff it or decrease the costs of the refinery... at the monent all the 2chest option are completly useless, you cant ever get enought currency in 1 day to even use 1 2chest option! even on very high research its still impossible... very bad numbers

[grave epoch]

Generators are useless even if u could collect from them. I can raid 30 billion steel in an hr, while collecting trit and dill at the same time. No one mines any of the 3

[jolly laurel]

@tacit obsidian @full charmnowitzki can yall check caths synergy? , usin a faction miner on concentrated ltinum, im usin arrock quark and cath, caths synergy is super high, , i noriced, if usin rom instead of cath , whos synergy is way lower and has no mining stats, and its faster, this can only mean caths synergy is not working, thanks.

[ripe thicket]

For the epic and rare chests, please add an option to remove some ship bp's from the randomness. Many players don't need jelly bp's anymore so if we could remove the jellyfish, that would be great. Or be able to remove the miners that we already have. That way we can get the bp we really need

[jolly laurel]

rom does give synergy to arrock, 3k to be exact, cath gives arrock 12k

[potent silo]

@jolly laurel it's because you have quark. Quark and cath are both command class, so less synergy.

To have max synergy you need 3 different class, it's why you have more synergy with rom on the side

[jolly laurel]

so your saying the 12k half synergy is worse than the 3k full?

[hidden night]

I'm using Arrock, Rom and Cath on a horizon and get 3k synergy with both, I've tried every combo of those crews I can think of using all the ferengi and I've never seen a 12k synergy so whatever you broke, don't fix it lol

[potent silo]

It's not 12 k. It's 3000 vs 1200 % 1.2k. Less synergy without 3 class. Max number look like it's 3000.

Ps it's not really feedback, better move to another channel if you need more explanation (cooldown is awful)

[jolly laurel]

just tryin to understand the scoply math thats all,ugh slow mode should be lowered

did scopely hire al gore? this seems like his math to me,just sayin , thanks minna fer explainin that to me

[rain shell]

Wowwwww. my treasury contents are straight garbage.

10 total shards and they're for an officer that only works on 1 ship 😂
I guess this in the month that people naturally will start to be able to unlock it for free to they made the rewards worse? That's a real kick in the face for folks who have been hitting every milestone waiting to open this thing

[placid siren]

Unless I am mistaken, there are no G4 ship parts in the current Events Shop and I have just seen my Treasury lockbox and there are no G4 ship parts there either... This is madness! Why would you not include the one thing we all need???? I shall not be buying!

[scarlet sundial]

Strange New Quiz Step 5 is BROKEN. Gave me -26.91k points....

[hidden night]

Yeah its the dual Command officers (stars), Quark is getting full synergy while Cath isn't, I'm willing to bet if you take Quark off Cath will go to 3k or if you swap them around so Quark is on the right and Cath on the left you might see them flip to Quark at 1200 and Cath at 3000, left hand seat always seems to get priority when using 2 officers of the same class. Ideally you want 1 officer from each division for full synergy, I typically run Arrock, Rom and Cath just for that reason and keep Quark on another miner where I need the PC more.

[topaz saffron]

Is drydock e still available at 36? Just did the research for (and built) the defense platform for it. But the research tree telling me drydock e won't be available until 39.

[marble radish]

Where do Scopely get their business sense from.. ??? 🤔 How the H.ELL can you validate such a pathetic gesture.. and who would be stupid enough to pay for that.. got to be the most un-thought out idea yet !!! 😵‍💫

[frigid perch]

The vault of latinum pack is there simply to show how "good value" the other "sale" packs are. 🤣🤣 Total rubbish of course, but it allows them to use words like "sale", even if not true.

[acoustic cloud]

@tacit obsidian Are server mergers contemplated for any pre-ascension servers to mitigate lost population since the start of incursions?
Sub question: Are server mergers ever on the table for pre-ascension servers?

[topaz bridge]

So it's not really possible to discuss issues from the game if the response is always that it's the users fault...

[alpine ferry]

Your saying this to the team that can’t create a correct calendar. Or send their customers the product they are asking for … wait does that make us the Golden Geese 😱

[lethal matrix]

Could anyone check on the supporter, i think he is dead... havent been able to access my account for a week (since i stupidly enough asked them to change my email), im on the third ticket and havent got response for 2 days.

[hidden night]

Drydock E has always been at 39, they added drydock G as a paid option to bridge the gap between 28 and 39, I forget what level it opens at, I wanna say 30.

[slow nimbus]

Not appreciating the decrease in the Treasury pack this month. I really do not understand why Scopely does this. They save a tiny amount of virtual product but at the expense of annoying us greatly.

[soft reef]

Only 10 Hemmer shards 🤢🤮 is this key half price?

[storm charm]

No double

[rain shell]

We covered above why they did it. Tons of people are able to cash in broken resealing rod pieces this month so the rewards are down because it’s “free”

[hoary lynx]

Are we going to get an update to the #💫-event-information? Getting the ATA event today with no warning sucked

[wind vortex]

#⚡-mod-announcements message
OK so, this doesn't work yet, even after restarting.
Still shows the original answers.

[lusty terrace]

Damage your realta and repair. Realta requires parsteel.

[potent silo]

No really, in 6 h since the event start, no one though about it 😳

[wraith briar]

And then for the rest of us who spent lat to be able to spend 1 parsteel to solve a realy easy topic?

[lusty terrace]

Mind boggling that Scopely is changing the event to accommodate those that forgot the realta requires parsteel. You can’t scrap it, so everyone has a realta.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/509686204975808512/1009240854935896074/IMG_2972.png

I’d rather Scopely fix things that are truly broken instead.

[wraith briar]

Fully agree, stop bending to whiners

[wind vortex]

From the "fix" they introduced it seems that EVEN THEY forgot, so SORRY for not knowing that. 🙄

[potent silo]

Lol. Mind blowing that players prefer to shame others players instead of checking if there wasn't a #scopely bug first

#👾-bug-reporting

[lusty terrace]

Seems a lot of people forgot about the realta repair requiring parsteel, so I’m educating on my server. I have not heard of anyone on my server having that bug and I don’t go looking for bug reports unless I’m reporting a bug.

I came here to educate and not “shame” anyone, like you’re clearly doing.

LLAP 🖖

[wraith briar]

Dont think that was the intention, the event worked fine long before they added an easier way to solve it...

[potent silo]

It's not an easier way to solve it. It's a way to fix a bug affecting dozen of players

[wraith briar]

And then fix the problem, dont add another solution. How can contribute be harder then spend 1 parsteel?

[potent silo]

Because contributing didn't worked before the fix and even give negative points for some players? Because people end up with billion negative points and had to spend more than that negative to finish the event? That's a bit more costly than a realta repair 🤷

[wraith briar]

Contributing to the ally was never the answer.... and if it was as you say then that negative should have been removed as a fix, then same solution... but no Scopely as usual solved it their own way

[potent silo]

I m done with that talk🖖

[alpine ferry]

Scopley bringing the community together, next job Brexit 👍🏻

[shell lotus]

Could you please add some kind of icon on the Galaxy map showing available missions that can be accepted. Flying to each system to try and find new missions is ridiculous.

[bronze axle]

The added time to complete events is nice. Let’s me spend time more leisurely and definitely more enjoyably. Actually doing more things.

[vale briar]

Not true. Previous quiz events have counted contributions as spending.

[nova sierra]

i have yet to watch snw and the strange new quiz is full of spoilers. thanks jerks!

[nova sierra]

Same but I didn't even read the questions so my virginity is protected

[humble blade]

Can scopely work on giving us f2p the opportunities to get more relocations? I purchase one a day I grind up a storm in separatists to maybe get 1 if I’m lucky. I know they have better drops in Ty but working on locking kling so that’s not an option for me. Maybe allow us to purchase more than 1 every 24 hrs. Raiding is a big part of my playing style

[summer brook]

I have all required shards for refractive beam however I'm unable to unlock it because I'm unable to acquire the epic projectile shards how about making the shards available

[sullen matrix]

@tacit obsidian hows it going, any news yet?

[summer lotus]

Updating the box's dropped from the new hostiles to contain more of the actian venom currency instead of useless blueprints would be great

[subtle nacelle]

Amalgram refinery is somehow worse than normal refineries. Haven’t been able to open a single recruit chest out of last 3 pulls. Keep getting minimum. It’s not a reasonable path forward for maxing worf or any of the refits. Want the ISS refit, had amalgram for over a month and have earned refit 2.5 shards. Incredibly painful

[ripe thicket]

By my estimates, the event store has cost me 18 billion in raw resources and about 2500 in uncommon+ resources. Even if I dumped everything into resources, this battlepass will cost Mr about 30 billion in raw resources and 5k in uncommon+ resources. And those is not even addressing the common mats.

This has been one of the worst battlepasses so far. This is not good. I still have not bought the elite battlepass because it has been so bad. And for what?

[ripe thicket]

Mine have been the same. I have 2 pulls from the entire last month of refineries. And the shards, wow, this is horrible. They are making the game worse and worse.

[unborn bloom]

Just came to light that some people get relocation tokens daily from daily rewards and some don't. Can anyone confirm via screenshot if they get relocation tokens from daily rewards??

[floral basin]

I do sometimes...but it's not automatic...just varies.

[vale wasp]

The "24h" free chests in the gift section? get relocs from them all the time

[wide marsh]

I used to. I haven't paid attention in a while and I don't remember which daily it comes from. I'll try to pay attention tomorrow.

[livid stone]

I do not get one in my dailies that I can recall. I do get them fairly regular in my 24 hr chests (PC bonus and regular). I tend to get at least one or two a day killing hostiles as well, if not more. They do need to probably source them in the dailies going forward with incursions being part of the game now.

[humble blade]

Every once in a great while I’ll get one with a 24 hr chest . With my@playing style with raiding and pvp I can easily go through 2-3 relos a day

[slow nimbus]

Please, for the love of the Prophets, you have to source way more Independent credits. We now have 38 officers that require them. To max all of them would take around 850,000 independent credits. Now I get less than 350 a day between Outlaw, Borg, and Augment refineries. So SEVEN YEARS! I don’t mind having to make some choices on who gets upgraded when, but right now it is practically a moot point. I can only promote a handful a year. I have max shards for about 15 of them and another 5 awaiting a promotion, but most of them are still only level 2 or 3 because of independent credits. Khan is the only one I have scraped together enough credits to max. Even if I wanted to buy some the amounts are ridiculously low and a fraction of the other three factions which I have plenty of credits anyway because they are reasonably sourced. And when you have event stores the cost is also horrible. I would have to spend my entire month’s loot to promote just one officer to T4. We play in part because we love these characters and it takes the fun out if you do not have a reasonable chance to make them worth using. I really hope improvements are in the pipeline and soon.

[little cave]

Unlimited independent credits available immediately, in the store.

[slate bloom]

Why does the Cerritos skin look so low res in comparison to a d7 skin

Not quite like the ‘advert.’

[smoky onyx]

LOL, when has anything the Scopely advert team put out looked like something in the game? Remember those flashy animations??? Scopely are the Kings of bait and switch!

[grizzled plume]

Another part of the game not updated to reflect current content.

[wide marsh]

Because it is made out of cheeto dust

[slate bloom]

@wide marsh certainly looks like it should be called the cheerio’s ship.

[marble prism]

@north perch You around to talk about the math of why the Mantis cycle is poorly designed?

[novel pier]

Why oh why oh why have you increased the cost of the desealing rod?
It has always been 3600 broken rods and just as most will be able to afford a free one, up it goes to 4000

[marble prism]

It has always been 4000 from the day the introduced the broken desealing rods and the conversion.

[edgy harness]

Been 4K from the start

[novel pier]

Fair enough, I was convinced it was 3600 🤷‍♂️

[cerulean sandal]

I recently experienced in game recriminations for the opinions I expressed on this site regarding an event. I think a blurb in the rules should remind people to respect each other's opinions whether you disagree with them or not. I want to feel comfortable posting my opinions about events on this site without concern about recrimination.

[edgy harness]

Scopely considers anything said/done here or anywhere in any discord completely separate from anything done in game. Only way to stop it is to stop using one or the other.

[cerulean sandal]

Well they might fantasize that is true. The moment they proactively provided links to their official discord within the game itself, they arguably opened that door.

[edgy harness]

Gonna bet y.a.n.a.l. So I wouldn’t make statements like that. Take the advice or keep bashing your head against the wall with no better answer ever forthcoming, up to you.

[cerulean sandal]

Gonna bet y.a.n.a.l.

[acoustic cloud]

any updates on this?

[sweet palm]

So I Guess Now With The Mantis being out now The Sarco just went from 99% Worthless to 100% Worthless. So Glad I spent all Those Mats to get it to T7. THEY NEED TO UPDATE THAT SHIP IMMEDIATELY NOW IT IS COMPLETELY WORTHLESS!!!!!

[true zealot]

It's a battleship....so...strike team crew...

Have we got any details on how they do on it? I mean it turns a bortas into a beast against an Ent...whats a sarc on a node gonna do?

[waxen kite]

what bortas lol?

[true zealot]

Lolz

[waxen kite]

People need to get one fact straight, what they are doing with adding this type of crew is killing any possible freedom of fighting vs battle triangle, any ideas, ways, your capabilities and knowledge go washed down the pipe drain by a single arc, dont worry they will add explorer and interceptor crew just like this in future, and their broken logic is that people will spend not just money on these officers, but money on new ships to have all 3 types of good ships to combat others.

[grim gust]

I have been working every chance i had to aquire the Refractive beam and tonight after puchasing some extra tokens i was finally able to aquire it. Although much to my dismay I had no idea that it was a 2 part item as the picture shows. Now it has vanished from the event store and there is no place i can get the missing shards to unlock the 2 and make them work. This is the hypocracy that make players such as my self really question why are we still playing if there is no answers or second chance to recrify this issue unless you get luckly in an unforseen event "sometime" down the road? Really scopely, this reeks of pure greed and no care of those who keep you going.

[edgy harness]

Unfortunately it has been known, and communicated several times, that since special projectiles were first introduced that you need both the basic and special projectile shards to unlock one refit.
You got click happy and tossed away the one shard type.

[severe wren]

Could you fix that targeting on the iPad please 🙈😅 till I worked with the arrows, the ships are back in base. It’s no fun 🥲😅 Maybe make the size of the base area and pvp area a user setting? So we can switch between focus on base for a raid or focus on pvp and make appear bases last? A button like the “clean view? On/off

[grim gust]

first off, when i first started collecting the projectile i now have there was no mention of it being a two part projectile. This is back when i first started the game over 2 years ago, that is why i was able to aquire more of the one i have and so little of the other.

[edgy harness]

You can look at any projectile at any point in time before now and see which one require two separate items to unlock.

[stark lintel]

I’d forward it on to Echo. Not ALL the projectile skins require both shards but the ones that do should come with both in the event store. For example the Positron phaser comes with both the Positron and Rare shards together.

[main dagger]

Criminals? Scopely advertised this. Not mantis specific. I buy it do the research and it does NOT work as advertised and paid for. I report the bug. Because it’s not working. Then couple of days later they change the wording? And now refuse to refund my money? Refuse to compensate me? And just keep ending ever support ticket I submit. Why do you want to cheat people like this? I asked to peak to a supervisor and they ended support ticket 🤣💩

[grim gust]

@stark lintel @tacit obsidian it didn't occur to me till a short time ago as i was looking over the screen shot that i posted. the count of the shards required to activate the refractive beam are the same as the ones I had for the refractive beam when i started to purchase them in the event store. I received all the refractive beam shards and as i purchased each pkg i also saw the other as well, but never received them. I am disabled and it may take me time to figure out what happened, but that is exactly what happened in this instance. If i had received them then the count would be equal and both projectiles would be complete.

[stark lintel]

Definitely send a request to customer service if that’s the case. I can’t see the Refractive beam in my store as I have it already but I assume the parts should have been in there.

[grim gust]

the proof is in the screen shot, thank you

[grim gust]

after hunting through several pages i finally found the place to file a ticket. once complete i came back up to file a ticket, not like it used too where it would say that someone would be in contact with you soon..... ugh~!

[fallen epoch]

Haven’t been on the last 3 days. I’ve asked if there was something I missed

[winter sigil]

I've scrapped that ship enough times to know it doesn't have spikes. 😂

[bleak gorge]

What is going on with the zoom on PC? Is Scopley working on fixing the zoom using a mouse on PC? I can't see the names of systems because it doesn't work properly.

[trail garnet]

Is scopely really so dumb that they set PVP systems different at different levels and set PVP systems as mining systems? Just got hit out of roe in a G5 mining system because of this.

[shadow aspen]

To those who advised me to use the tweedley thing instead of the support form thank you. I have to say that all the bad things I have heard about the support were not so in my case, the guy who answered was patient, courteous, friendly, and extremely efficient, he solved my stupid mistake that lost account access very fast. Just wanted to give some praise here to help balance all the bad press they get. 😉

[reef venture]

@tacit obsidian any chance you can check your PMs and get back to me, or can anyone else at scopely actually able to drop me a PM? It's regarding The Academy

[bold geyser]

has there been any word on when mobile zooming is going to be sorted out? having to "pinch" 30 times to get to max zoom is ridicules.

[opal acorn]

Quien tendría la amabilidad de regalarme 200 mil créditos

[cyan portal]

The lag today has been insane....

[analog dagger]

Is the game down? Can't log in

[craggy saddle]

PC, Android or iOS? (Can respond in #👾-bug-reporting so we dont have slowmode)

[blazing rapids]

only 15 Harrison shards...BOO!

[rich oar]

Unable to attack a ship after “debuff” has been utilized on an enemy ship/player. How does one attack after utilizing this feature?

[edgy harness]

Go to galaxy view and then re-enter system view. Solves it for most people.

[twilit slate]

Shouldn't have to use a workaround if the game was coded, tested, and working properly.

[spiral cradle]

account delete requested, quitting the game, and taking all steps to cutting all ties to my Lv 39 account has been the best and most relaxing thing I have done since I have started this flaming turd of a game

[edgy harness]

Remember: “it ain’t right until it’s Scopely Right” ™️

[fluid agate]

Hi

[final plinth]

I really like the changes you made during this arc. So l‘ll send some positive feedback as it‘s in order to do so. good job 👏

[lament scroll]

How did you go? Cannot see it in my store

[final plinth]

It's that chat bubble on the lower right corner, or the chat popup if it is maximized. it start's with a bot guiding you through a few questions, then you can just "chat" your ticket to the bot an a support rep will chat back. Your session is saved in a cookie so come back later with the same browser to read the reply

[lusty iris]

Fix territory lag fest you all promoting on this game. A lot player pay good money to play this game but still have not fix lag fest during territory defense on server 51

[young dune]

I'm currently experiencing lag so bad the game is unplayable.

I keep getting disconnected from the server with huge loading times.

Never known it this bad.

Whatever you did in the last day or so, you broke something.

[grim gust]

I'm in chat now with Scopely Customer support, last time they responded was over an hour ago

[weak tundra]

For the love of god, end the caps on hostiles killed. There are grinding slb events and now I’m grinding & not gaining rep or loot. Why punish your most engaged players to try and stop a few cheaters? I run up against this limit all the time…how are we supposed to grind rep if we stop getting rep?

[winter sigil]

With the Mantis adding to the daily grind, can we consider adding higher level Borg probes with more loot so that it doesn't take as long?

[solar onyx]

@Scopely L46 here - I wouldn't call myself a huge spender but I've spent plenty getting to where I'm at, and have played diligently on a daily basis for ~2yrs patiently working on long term goals based on the game's PvP mechanics. The same mechanics and system that went out the window during this arc.

Ironically I have most of the RSS and mats in inventory that I need to get to L49 - but I question what is the point, given the severe disruption to the existing mechanics. It's not worth a year of grinding and spending on a game that demands long term planning, only to have that plan upended by randomly overpowered changes.

So in sum - this arc actually makes me likely to spend a LOT less going forward, NOT more. If that gets you (Scopely) to fix this then great. If not no biggie - just one less dolphin in the game.

[hoary blade]

Should mean something really that's why they put it in the first place. And the battleship is the slowest ship all the other ones can run from it pretty easily

[elfin coyote]

Will you ever fix the free chests giving away? Quite ridiculous getting 100 officer XP on lvl 41 from a 4 hour chest.

[waxen kite]

fix quality of gameplay? no they dont do that, doesnt make them money...

[grizzled plume]

Same, apart from the rss to get to 49.

[stoic solstice]

Why can’t scopely sort out the debuff problem, and their answer to change view to galaxy then back to system doesn’t work. I paid good money to get the ship and it’s not working. The ticket I submitted said we are investigating and shut the ticket down. This is not acceptable 😡

[mossy leaf]

I think DS9 needs to bring some new factions to the game: Bajorans, Cardassians, Dominion… and new, totally different ships. Not just the Defiant (of course), but a Bajoran lightship, a Cardassian Galor class battle cruiser, a Jem-Hadar fighter…

[arctic mason]

would love a "latinum store" where you can buy stuff in bulk instead of buying it at each research/ship component/whatnot. so i could math out that i need 4k gas for the researches i want, and see how much i'd have to pay in lat for that, and decide if i'm going to go for that or not before starting the whole crop of researches

[polar basin]

Dear Scopely - is this a) bug , b) negligence or c) you just dont care?

[lone sable]

I see La'an got fixed. Where's my comp pack for the 100s-1000s of Actian Venom I lost by the bug?

[craggy saddle]

Laan always worked fine, the display was not. You didnt loose out on anything
Then the display was fixed. Not laan.
If your cargo was capped at 25k as per the display and your actual cargo was somewhere around 24k, laan worked fine.

[lone sable]

Except I didn't. Was capped at 25k displayed with a bug that kept it about 1k below that. Now it's 60k and works... so yeah

[dire coral]

So in your world a 25% increase in cargo is supposed to be 35k when the original number is 25k? 🙈 you don’t have all the infos. La’an always worked as she was described. You could actually verify that by calculating her effect.

[lone sable]

So y'all are saying she's broken now then...

[craggy saddle]

No we're not. If what you said is correct, the display got fixed. And nothing is broken anymore

Can we move to #🏆-event-chat real quick? No slowmode

[lone sable]

Except... I could not collect more than 24k and can now collect 60k. And yes, I did grind additional when I reached "full" cargo and only the 24k ever made it to my materials whereas there's now 60k making it. Do you see the issue? Whether or not it affected you does not change that I got screwed

[slender cobalt]

@tacit obsidian Why my Hemmer got his abilities changed with no notice? How am I suppose to use his loot drops improvement now? From a must have officer now I have a crappy one.

[hollow pike]

That’s strange. They were supposed to make him a survey ship killer

[vale wasp]

He is, the popups/info panels aren't all linked to the same source, and some have outdated/incomplete info because of that.

[lime socket]

That pic does show the ability after the change tho? Oh I see it doesn’t mention when fighting survey hostiles part

[slender cobalt]

I liked having him boost actian drops. I could easily get my dailies venom covered with him present. Why change that and not add a 2nd Hemmer with survey abilities? I want my old Hemmer back...

[hollow pike]

He’s not crap now. He’ll be very useful for rep grinding and should have a big impact when killing hostiles in Romulus, Sol and Kronos

[alpine ferry]

Yeah but if you purchase him for venom, you got a great case for a refund. Could of changed Una’s useless Captains ability and made her even more valuable in sales… doh!

[mellow wave]

He is not crap, but we already had plenty of ways to grind surveys. His actian skill filled a valid role, especially with amount of actian you have to grind as costs rise as you level mantis. Was quite disappointed to wake up to this change. It impacts QOL as now have to spend more time grinding for same amount. Also quite the bait-n-switch with no announcement for those of us who chased hemmer for the actian skill.

[dusty prawn]

Need to honor this background

[hollow pike]

I see your point, but they’ve turned him from a 1 trick pony into a far more useful officer for a variety of scenarios. They can always add another action loot officer later. As regards a bait and switch, my understanding is the change has been made based on community feedback. Maybe not the feedback you would have provided, but a lot of people will be far more interested in him now.

[mellow wave]

he will get hardly any use from me now. 1 trick ponies have a great use...for their 1 trick. but i get some will be happy.

[crude sandal]

Looks like a litestep theme I had on my PC in the early 00s 😄

[waxen kite]

yep got caught in this bull too

[nova sierra]

when almost all the community expected a pve survey officer to couple with snw pike they made a mistake dedicating the last officer of the group to the mantis, this month was the last chance since this is the last snw based bp, this is why they changed hemmet, now they can and should add one (or more) mantis officer(s) within a dedicated mantis group the next months (not ds9 group, don't you dare scopely), and in my opinion they should give that officer for free to whoever bought hemmet before the changes

[mellow wave]

So some of us get penalized for Scopely's lack of planning? Not holding my breath for a free future officer. lol

They could have made the survey change and moved actian to below deck and had a lot less annoyed people today. I'll get over it after some coffee, but will always think complete skill changes after the fact are BS.

[vale wasp]

How many bought Hemmer? has he even been in a pack yet?

[zenith eagle]

Wtf they Nerf’d Hemmer. Like that’s the problem everyone was mad at. 😂 @tacit obsidian why for the love of god did they nerf Hemmer? His older abilities where much better especially for doing dailies on mantis now he is strictly a below deck kinda guy

[nova sierra]

"So some of us get penalized for Scopely's lack of planning?" Doesn't it goes almost always this way? 😅

[ripe thicket]

I just looked back over the battlepass and I have to say, this is horrible. You give us great new officers but hide them behind a paywall. THERE IS NO WAY TO GET THE NEW OFFICERS IN THE BATTLEPASS AT ALL. Not even the elite battlepass. They are not in the store and not in anything else except to spend $$$ on them. Wtf. This is not acceptable. There is no point in paying for the elite battlepass when you get NO OFFICERS UNLOCKED AT ALL.

I am very mad and angry that you changed hemmers ability. Not because they were good but because it is so much better now. I used my resources to unlock strike team la'an instead because hemmer so bad and now you made him the best pve/faction grinders in the game. I want him instead. This is unacceptable. If you want to change officer abilities around and have them in spend events only, then you should not change them after the first spend event. I want my resources back or the shards for him. This is completely unethical and immoral as a company. And it is even worse that you have made all the other officers this month a paywall.

[placid grotto]

You got that backwards dude

[fresh bramble]

This keyboard sucks. Is it permanent?

[placid grotto]

that is your device settings, not the game.

[fresh bramble]

Ty. Unsure how it changed while I slept. 👍

[runic trout]

That's a setting on your iPad.
Go to Settings > General > Keyboard
One of the Keyboard settings is "Split Keyboard"
(got this information from a Google search - don't have an IOS device, but I assume you can turn off the split keyboard from that setting)

[hoary blade]

They should have put survey defense bonus as officer and move the venom to below deck

[slender cobalt]

I didn't buy it. I got it from mantis refinery. And was useful for mantis.

[mossy leaf]

The hostile cap blows. Not even 4pm and I’ve already hit it. Super frustrating for those who enjoy the grind aspect of the game - especially when there’s a PVE SLB going on!

[placid grotto]

@tacit obsidian Any chance the Mantis Refinery could be visible to all players Ops 33+ so they can use the SNW Recruit Tokens they got in the free track of the battlepass?

[gray crow]

The $20 premium rewards pack doesn’t seem to be in the store on iOS anymore. Just the elite. Both are on web store tho.

[hot matrix]

Putting in my 2 cents here. Hemmer was good the way he was. You want an officer in that helps with survey hostiles, please make a new officer and leave existing ones alone.

[runic trout]

I just read elsewhwere that the advice is to put in a ticket. Scopely is trying to correct the situation with the $20 (US) Pack.

[rare trout]

IL Y A DU MONDE DU STAFF PRESSENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[burnt viper]

Well that refinery boost is crap. You can only get the manits at 33 and refinery boost only for 34 and above. Under 33. Well big middle finger from scopley to you! @tacit obsidian pretty crappy month if your not above 33.

[manic tendon]

@tacit obsidian that refinery boost is nowhere near where it needs to be. Not even close.

[steep socket]

And this months bonus refinery is when? Don’t confuse it with the single day uhura one

[teal harness]

You know you changed the refinery for level 34 and above. What about below 34. Are we just scr$&@ed again. You know you kill the lower player base your whales won’t have anyone to feed on and will stop playing and stop paying.

[balmy spear]

@tacit obsidian really? takes them how many years to touch the refinery and its locked behind ops34?
april was months ago....

%100 buff for 34 and below, and now %200 for 34 and up.
slap anyone that complains about "the economy"

[mortal helm]

Are you going to start players off at ops 34 because afaik you have to be lower than that at some point to get there. Or do you just not want new customers?

[rose nacelle]

Of course, 33 and lower gets the shaft yet again. You know how to get them above 34? Let the refinery run! That’s the only reason I haven’t hit 32. Because of the freakin mats.

[elfin root]

I don't understand any of it... Why is there a level requirement? Why do some mats get a bigger boost than others? 😂 Why is it so hard to say "everyone gets twice as much! Whoo hoo!" It's less programming too

[boreal ferry]

I’m really disappointed in this reveal of how you’ve “fixed the refinery”. What a let down. And agreed. I know it’s by design, so you will pay your way past it. I am by no means entirely f2p. But why spend months promising to “fix” the refinery and then pull this?

[hidden night]

@tacit obsidian what are you guys smoking?

[manic tendon]

Mats are definitely an issue, and this response barely scratches the surface.

• Refinery should have been boosted 500%, minimum
• scrapping kehras, kumaris, vahklas and horizons should be worthwhile, perhaps offering 1.5 - 2x the base mat cost at maximum level, giving an actual use to all those BPs collected, @tacit obsidian

[balmy spear]

you know... locking the refinery "improvements" behind ops 34, would have made a ton more sense if most of your player base actually makes it to ops 34...

[tame olive]

Suggestion…..for the next “improvement “ how about we fix the crashing issue. I mean it’s only been a year

[burnt viper]

@tacit obsidian well I'm done spending. No more battle pass no more anything. Scopley can get their economy the same way they give it to their player base.

[loud cove]

Bahahahahahahaha..... swing and a miss Scopely....

[amber surge]

Is there any guaranteed uncommon and/or rare per pull? That has always been my issue. Pull only common crap several days in a row. @tacit obsidian

[vale wasp]

There is no guarantee still

[loud cove]

SCOPELY doesn't listen. 🤪

[quick marten]

I just did a 4G and 3G max pull and the result was fantastic compare to before.

[bronze nova]

@tacit obsidian

Once again this shows that devs, and those who push this DO NOT PLAY THE GAME nor understand the actual mechanics. The entire bottle neck IS G3 UNCOMMON! Not the rare.

Do you even play this game? The G3 Uncommon refinery is the sole reason I have to wait for events to come along to pay out UNC mats. And this past arc you all have shown how little the player base is listened to since the events are not paying out UNC mats but a temp currency that we all know is not paying out the same rate, in fact it is less if you spend it on the mats for the same events we have had this entire time.

Please show me where, what forum, who or what chat where Scopley is actually taking in any feedback or suggestions?

#⚡-mod-announcements message

[burnt viper]

@quick marten your lucky then because they didn't change the pull rates just increased the amount you can get in a pull. Expect to get full common pulls and luckily you must not have any lower ops than 34 in your alliance. I've been stuck at 29 for months trying to get enough 3* uncommons to be able to move up to ops 30.

[livid stone]

@tacit obsidian We appreciate what is trying to be done with refinery, but the mark was missed. The amounts in each pull chance was a problem, but exponentially worse is the rng in that refinery. Since that is unchanged, we will still have far too many pulls with no uc mats… the real bottleneck for most players. An adjustment to the rng in favor of uc would be the golden ticket.

[silk raft]

Agreed. I have tons of g3 rare. More than I will ever need. G3 uncommon? It’s kind of like that vitamin brand…. One-A-Day 😂

Changing g3 uncommon to at least 150% or 200% would be beneficial and a guarantee of at least one set of uncommon. G4 uncommon should be 150% increase.

[potent silo]

That's uncalled for 😕

[amber surge]

It would be better to just add some quantity of minimum guaranteed uncommon. It doesnt have to be very much but it does need to start at lvl 20. 1 guaranteed uncommon is better than pure range cause at least you can figure out that even with the worst luck in the world you will be able to build <insert building/component> in at least 565 days.

As it is now you can go several days with just common pulls which are virtually worthless for G3.

[boreal ferry]

Yes, even if at bare minimum they changed the lowest amount of common and uncommon from chance to guarantee, it would be an improvement. For all players. Because believe it or not, the bottleneck doesn’t start at ops 34

[twilit slate]

The lowest amount possible for each (common, uncommon, rare, epic) needs to be guaranteed, then the rest is rng. As mentioned above, at least a player can then plan their growth and know it will eventually be possible, even with the worst pulls.

[edgy harness]

And that’s always been the problem. A refinery should be a set amount, no randomness, and the refinery building would have had a actual purpose in the game besides a rss check.

[twilit slate]

1,000,000% that the refinery pulls should scale up as ops (and therefore requirements for buildings and research) goes up. It is a useless building at the moment and is only upgraded when it is an ops upgrade requirement.

[edgy harness]

Just wait for ship part refineries. You thought the mat ones were bad. Honestly surprised people weren’t demanding an upgrade to that at the same time.

Mat costs are lower for the early tiers of 4* ships, but that’s because the uc ship parts are just flat out bonkers. 30k+ parts for a single component after all the possible part cost reductions researches available. It’s twice the # of parts vs mats needed for a lot of components now.
Oh, and the new officer sets and events looks like they really want to try and force people into the 3* ship model of having at least rares of each type. Untenable.

[main dagger]

Ship parts upgrades to refinery are needed. The algorithms are biased. For example. I NEVER get only common ship parts in a 33k refine for Explorer. Survey. Battleship. But for much needed Interceptor parts. More frequently than not. I get 0 UNC parts? How is that possible if it’s supposed to be "chance"

Need to have player name in battle log for anyone who DEBUFFS you with mantis.

[sharp scroll]

Refinery increased? Sorry but for me there is no difference in outcome

[runic trout]

Have you restarted the game and what Ops level are you?

[sharp scroll]

of course I have and I'm OPS 45

[ornate moth]

So just used the refinery. When is it supposed to be improved?

[sharp scroll]

and not only restarted, also searched for updates

[runic trout]

I'd send in a ticket, then @sharp scroll

[sharp scroll]

a ticket to support? are you kidding? The last 5 times when I sent a ticket was only a waste of time and I felt really screwed with their answers. No help but only meaningless blabla

[runic trout]

@ornate moth For me, it was improved at the time of the announcement, but others have said the didn't see the Improved drops.
@sharp scroll I can't make you send a ticket, but you take the chance they don't fix it for you.

[potent crystal]

Hey @twilit mango @north perch do you have any eta update on that alliance station that was announced in the early days of this year???

[modern cypress]

@tacit obsidian @twilit mango @north perch New refinery update is a bad joke, if you drop 0, 100% increase on nothing is still nothing!!!

I've done my refines today and yet again, 0 uncommon 3* gas, 0 uncommon 3* crystal and a small amount of uncommon ore.

Why can't refinery have guaranteed amount drops per refine that can be +/- a percentage based on a mining efficiency value that can be improved via research?

I'll tell you why, because that doesn't make people buy packs from the store!

Very very disappointed by this update, this is not what I wanted to see

[nocturne steeple]

@tacit obsidian @twilit mango @north perch I understand that you have a business to run and money to make but this refinery update has to be some kind of joke right. Ok so here is the thing, the current refinery update is nothing more then a minimal increase to the current system that no one likes. here is what your patch notes should have said.

Commanders,

This summer, we promised an update to the Refinery, and are happy to announce that it’s now live! This update will affect all Commanders Ops level 34 and higher. Check out the full details below on these changes.

G4 and G5 Refinery

▫️ Increased the amount of common, uncommon, rare, and epic Ore received when refining raw Ore by 100%
▫️ Increased the amount of common, uncommon, rare and epic Crystal received when refining raw Crystal by 100%
▫️ Increased the amount of common, uncommon, rare and epic Gas received when refining raw Gas by 100%

G3 Refinery

▫️ Increased the amount of rare materials received when refining raw Ore, Crystal, and Gas by 100%
▫️ Increased the amount common and uncommon materials received when refining raw Ore, Crystal, and Gas by 60%

NEW

• Applied to all grades you are guaranteed a minimum pull for your level of each rarity, with a chance at an addition amount for each rarity.
• Prime Refining Now guarantees largest quantity of resources for each rarity in-addition to an extra pull.
  END NEW

[swift steppe]

So the valkis has zero protected now?

[thorny wing]

Scopely May have doubled the refinery amounts…but… the probability of getting unc or rare hasn’t changed ..end result…just more common 8 times out of 10..

[vale wasp]

You were hit before daily reset.

[indigo gull]

@vale wasp why does this update only affect lvl 34 and higher? Players from lvl 20 - 33 have been complaining at how abismal the refinery's are 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

It further supports everyone's points of scopely only caring about the 🐋🐋🐋's with 💳💳💳

[vale wasp]

For whatever reason, they've decided that the refinery income was sufficient for the pace players go through ops 20-33. Level to 34 and you'll get to experience the new refinery outputs for yourself, no need to be a whale to do that. F2p can easily get to 34 in a reasonable amount of time.

[indigo gull]

It is far from sufficient mate. Say i needed around about 1000 unc ore, 300 unc crystal and gas, with the most I've had being 14, that would take me ⅓ or more of a year just to go up 1 level. I understand that you require more unc and rare for ops lvl 34 and up but why not increase the drop rates for the people below that? Just doesn't make sense, whatever you do with one thing you do to the other

[vapid sleet]

The Refinery upgrade was the chance Scopley needed to keep players interested and to keep their growth in the game at a sensible pace. Scopley have increased the demands on all resources with new ships and new researches, but have failed to increase the resources needed for complete them. Giving the F2P players 100% more in refinery rewards, but still having such a low rate of obtaining those rewards, means very little to the player base. If F2P leave, servers would be empty, no one would advertise or recommend the game and the payers would get bored and leave. NEVER underestimate the importance of your F2P player base.

[nova sierra]

i wanted to add a reaction to the refinery news, but i can't because there are already too much reactions so ...

[slow lotus]

"easily" been playing since like the very end of 2019, and im about mid 33... thats three years...

[rapid pulsar]

Another three days of the annoying chest gleaming at me. Please make it go away or at least stop visually annoying.

[indigo gull]

I've been playing since the beginning and I'm lvl 29, but I've had a 6th month break because of how boring the game got

[slow lotus]

but i guess thats working as intented since ive only ever spent $40 dollars

[polar basin]

Thank you for increasing refinery output 😘

[frigid perch]

So re the refinery update, broadly speaking..
Refinery Mk1 = 💩
Refinery Mk2 = 2 x 💩

Yep, after 3+ years of waiting you missed the point entirely Scopely. 👍

[lime socket]

Just because it’s easy doesn’t mean everyone will bother to do it 🤷‍♂️

[polar basin]

Speed of ops progress depends on many factors, most of them are the players everyday decisions. For example. Which ships do i build? Do i upgrade my ship or not? Which research do i do etc.

[indigo gull]

Just refined about 225k worth of 3*, only unc i got was 18 unc ore 💩💩💩

[charred ravine]

Congratulations you now may from time to time get two peanuts instead of one peanut yay!
https://tenor.com/view/darryl-the-office-darryl-philbin-the-office-yay-yay-gif-yay-gif-25696872

[vale wasp]

Well, at 29 you don't get the benefit of the new refinery upgrades yet. If you head on over to #🤝-help-each-other there'll be plenty of assistance from players that might help you level faster and get to a point where you can benefit.

[twilit slate]

750,000 raw G4 for this?? And the refinery has improved?!?!

[polar basin]

It has for me. About twice what i usually get but then there was only one refinery so far. Professionals probably have already started excelsheets to gather data 🤣

[vale wasp]

Looks ready now.

[jaunty orbit]

Looks about right dtr

[twilit slate]

Take 2 - this building will take me forever 😜.

Dämn pictures were too small on my phone, selected the wrong one 🤪.

[vale wasp]

500 G4 uore is like a month, but more importantly, why upgrade that? it's not gating your ops

[twilit slate]

I have one upgrade to do (another building) and then I have nothing, so will start from scratch for another 9000+ uncommon save - can't scrap/build enough. Refinery should scale with ops!!

Also the above was an example - i don't intend to update it unless I have to

[polar basin]

I am ops 52 and my shuttle bay is 40

[toxic acorn]

So, could anyone tell me the reason why the uncommon 3* Stuff only got 60%? I mean its the biggest bottleneck in the game

[open sundial]

Because $$$. Scopely is well aware that it's the biggest bottleneck. They rely on artificial scarcity, frustration marketing, and surprise mechanics for their income.

[nova sierra]

I think your question contains part of the answer, "its the biggest bottleneck in the game" and they want it to stay that way, this refinery update seems just them pretending to do something to respond to our requests, without actually doing anything really meaningful to do so

[cyan portal]

"Improved refinery" ....full pull... with prime research...12 UC

[heavy marten]

Service Award Cost Efficiency. 🤗

[cyan cedar]

well thanks scopley now more good players are leaving, this is what one of our member put in discord

[ripe thicket]

It would have been 6 otherwise

[ripe thicket]

% if resources needed for the next level is actually much much worse once you go to 4*. When I went to upgrade my ops to 42, I need 23.5k 4* uncommon ore. Just for my labs, I need over 2200 uncommon gas.

Every refinery should give a minimum amount of each tier no matter what. Then add a random for a much higher amount. Even it it is 3 uncommon per batch and 1 rare per batch, so be it. At least it is something.

There is no comparison really. And wait until you go higher!

[toxic acorn]

I´m at 39. i stay there for at least 3 or 4 month

[cyan cedar]

The decision to limit this refinery upgrade to OPS 34 instead of actually reforming the refinery creates a poverty class of players. Those who have not spent the time and money to get to 34 by now will watch as they are left further and further behind. OPS 34 and above will now progress 1 1/2 to t#2x more rapidly than their peers below 34. The gap will widen and increase continually. Those now at lower ops will NEVER regain that ground. This creates a class of poverty players and spitts in their faces. Haven’t spent enough so far? Too bad. Spend proportionally more now or continue to watch everyone at 34+ pull further away from you. (edited)

[zealous trellis]

any word on reverting the mouse scroll zoom on pc yet?

[vale wasp]

I've seen nothing to suggest that'll happen.

[zealous trellis]

@tacit obsidian revert it!!

[ripe thicket]

Don't camp any ops, push your ops as high as possible. The rewards you get are night and day. You are missing out on 10k+ a month 4* resources and BILLIONS of resources otherwise. We'll, 10k in a normal month where you get resources from events and not this stingfeast of an event store month where we get nothing. By my estimates, we have a lost about 10k+ uncommon+ resources and 40 billion + resources. And that is if you dumped everything into resources and nothing else. They are hurting us and saying they are doing good.

Most people will only see about a 15% total increase in resource payouts overall.

@tacit obsidian there are 5 officers and all 5 officers are behind a paywall this month. There is no way for the masses to unlock any single one, not even the elite track. And the new officer sourcing is stuck behind another paywall and the only information we have on when we might get that sourcing is you telling the content creators we will know by DECEMBER! 4 MONTHS OFF. this os beyond unacceptable.

It is not acceptable that you change officer abilities after the first spend event and not tell people beforehand. You took an officer with very useless abilities (one you took completely out of the game) and gave him the best pve ability in the entire game and did not compensate us for anything. I would have saved my materials for him IF I HAD KNOWN. Months of planning and saving have been wasted now on one of the only officer abilities I have wanted.

We deserve answers and respect. If you want to continue to hide all characters behind pay walls and prevent us from competing and won't tell us for months when the new, AND ONLY OFFICER SOURCING, will be, I, and many others, will not be around on this game in 2 months much less 4 months. I WILL NOT wait.

And while the refinery changes are very nice and welcome, it is not fixed or anywhere close to being fixed. What you essentially did was add 2 gallons of gas to car instead of 1 and tell us our tank is full. It is still on empty. Every batch needs to have a small guarentee amount of EACH refinance material plus a chance for more. Not a chance to get some and than that amount goes up. When I still get 0, doubling that leaves me the same amount. And out of 12 batches, 3 have been 0.

[night hill]

Keep rewards in the events consistent in the officers section for this event we had to lower deck officers show up then go away and then rotate out through different ones it's going to be for a limited time put a timer on it saying only there for a certain amount of time

[placid ermine]

This isn't an improvement, nvrmind how it isnt representative of a prime refine expectation. My gas prime refine was an acceptable pull for non-prime. Alas, it too is supposed to prime refine.
Color me 💯% disappointed.
..and I don't mean scopley math 100%.

[slow charm]

So I'm assuming this is a 100% increase to what a 1% base value?... so now we have a 2% chance of increased pull of 0... yay totally improved. This is why i haven't purchased anything in over 12 months, i don't see the point in supporting people that screw over the community that pays them.

[nova sierra]

no, the 100% is in the quantity you get, not in the chances, you have the same chances you had before, now when the game finally decide to hand you some green/blue you get a little bit more of it

[chilly mica]

Not impressed with this 100% increase on refinery. Still got nothing. Refining should get better as you level. Experience yields better results??

[steel escarp]

@tacit obsidian Increasing possible rewards without adjusting the RNG to improve chances of getting those rewards is not a help to players. It is just putting bigger numbers on the screen when sooo many of us get only common pulls it is still a very poor refining system. NO HELP AT ALL. May as well of left it alone.

[brittle marten]

Need a 2nd auction like we usually have for the Arc epic officer, Strike Team La’an

[weary wolf]

Projectile descriptions don't show up anymore.

[slow lotus]

@lime socket my point was, he’s saying it’s easy, but in reality if you want to be able to be competitive in any way shape or form, you have to upgrade ships before you move up, I have a maxed sally, because with out it, I wouldn’t be able to do half the things I do, but that’s it, I didn’t get any of the 32 ships, I only have the one 28 ship, but still, I’m at 33 and it’s gonna be a grind to get to 34, I estimate probably another month at least, because I have to upgrade all of the docks, defense platforms, and then wait until I get enough unc crystal to upgrade the shipyard, why the hell would someone rush to 34 when they can’t defend themselves, participate in events, or afford any of the upgrades, just to get this pathetic refinery “boost” when it’s not even worth it?

[placid grotto]

I got 92 uc G3 Crystal (2-pull with Prime)

[lime socket]

Who’s talking about rushing? But taking three years to ops 33 if you’ve been playing since 2019 means it’s not the game holding you back you just didn’t want to level, which is fair, there’s many other reasons like winning in leaderboards etc by staying in a lower bracket, or just not having much time to devote to the game. For someone playing daily and not holding themselves back for other reasons, there’s ample resources from events and yes, even the existing refinery, to get to 33 easily under a year or so.

[vale wasp]

I maxed a sal on my run through the early mid 30s too, but knowing what I know now, I wouldn't do it again. It's unnecessary to have a ship that strong and costly, and would merely serve to slow down my ops development. Choosing ship at the cost of ops is a valid play if you want, but that's not a choice without consequences.

As a fresh newb making many poor decisions, my pacing was ~2m to 20, 4m more to 30, and 6m to 34 + epic. I could match that again without issue. To me that's easy.

[slow lotus]

Only time I ever didnt level on purpose was to build up unc mats, to finish the sally, @vale wasp what do you mean don’t need a ship that strong? Not only do I need a ship that strong to even contemplate placing in any events, or to even complete sms events, I need it to kill hostiles to grind things as a f2p. Plus most of the content that’s come out the past year has been for bigger players, the whole point of my argument, is this “update” is a slap in the face to those that actually want to play but can’t spend money on the game, I play a couple hours when I get on, but now you’re sitting here telling me that essentially it’s my fault I decided to spend the uncommon mats in ways that prepare me to move forward and not just rush up to a point where either I get slapped around or I pay for resources and mats and bps with money, the first stage of fixing a problem is admitting that is in fact a problem, but this so called “fix” is not a solution and from my own experience and what I’ve seen from others this is more of an “Screw you” than anything else

[lime socket]

I’ve been playing the same game as you have. It took me eight months to reach ops 33 and another couple to finish maxing the sally. While I wasn’t a pure f2p I haven’t spent that much, and I know pure f2p’s who’ve done it in about the same time as me or faster. You don’t need a max sally to do SMS’s or place in leaderboards or grind. It’s a luxury item. I’d add that since then I’ve reached ops 39 without spending any money in another six months or so, and that was with the refinery prior to these improvements.

[vale wasp]

I have the benefit of hindsight in that I did many of the things you did, and have progressed past them. I just did it far faster, and what you consider necessary isn't an absolute. I played this game f2p to 41-43 as well so it wasn't some speedrun with a cc-boosted income.

The game's about choices, and if you cling this hard to your choices then that's up to you. But you can easily be higher ops, with a weaker ship and/or research, by doing things differently. And if you had chosen that different path sooner, you'd even be higher ops with a stronger ship.

[slow lotus]

That’s the thing, you spent money, and depending on what you spent on, it has the chance of boosting you farther faster, as for the events on both of the servers I’ve been on, I’ll save up for a long time before trying to do the SLBs and get maybe ranked in the top ten, @vale wasp what path is that? Stop balancing my leveling? Say screw it and just upgrade what it takes to get my ops to a good level and then flesh out the rest? Even if I were to do that how would that help me? The battle pass helps a little bit but even if I complete it, it only helps so much, you’re both saying things that make sense, I’m not denying that, but I shouldn’t have to play up to a certain level and then start over to make sure I skip every rung I can to progress to where I matter enough for the devs to care about me

[weak tundra]

So far, I see no difference in the refinery. I think we’ve been duped!

[nova sierra]

getting only common stuff after opening 3 chests is the joy of a lifetime

[cyan portal]

Which is nonsense

[lime socket]

The stuff I spent on is basically second build and research queues, and like I said, I know f2p who’re actually ahead of me in progression. Don’t get hung up on the details. Maxing a sally, for eg, takes a long time, yeah. It took something like six months for me from when I built it. But it was still six months, not two years or more, so it doesn’t explain why it would take years longer for someone to reach 33 just because they chose to pause until they maxed it. You just gave one reason: saving up for months so you can blow out a leaderboard. I also know people who follow that strategy and stayed below even ops 25 for over a year, and have all the arc officers and most tiered up too. That is their choice: they’ve stayed low because they chose to, not because the game made it too hard for them to level up. If you’re at ops 33 and have been there for a while, most of your buildings and the important research should be done, it only takes so long to do it all. Leveling up to ops 34 if you want the improved refinery should be a matter of weeks at most not months. And if you want to be competitive in pvp or grinding leaderboards you should have run out of stuff you can do to improve it without leveling up anyway.

[topaz bridge]

Simply curious about posting links in the memes section... Shouldn't it be memes and gifs only?

[lime socket]

Now, all that said, I think we’re getting stuck on a side issue anyway. As far as the choice to limit improvement to 34+ only, it makes no sense to me either. The refinery already slowly improves as you level up, along with other events as well giving an incentive to reach for higher ops. Now they’ve introduced a massive step change at 34 though.

[bold fox]

Refinery, slowly improving? The level only changed what you could get, and it only really changed at certain levels, which is asinine to me, when everything else has some associated bonus for leveling it up

What it should have done is provide x/y/z min of the refined stuff with a random chance of bonus that ramps up with level, but they chose to nerf it as a gateway to money, so their "improvement" really does nothing but lip service to the request

[nova sierra]

I am ops 36, about to be 37, with a t6 saladin sitting at 1.2m power without max chen and am able to complete all events. Two events give me trouble, armada damage and the rescue the crew. Both completable but require a good deal more time. The benefit i have gotten is that even though I started my server two months after it opened I am now way ahead of the pack in ops which means very few people are in my slbs which means more free stuff.

Specialty ships that cost mats are also cheaper due to territory efficiency researches. Slightly higher event and refinery payouts as well. Spent almost no uc on any surveys so far. Would do it again

[slow lotus]

in your case thats excellent, however by the time i started on my server it was already pretty big, then we were merged with another server that also had big players last year, i havent won an slb in months so that doesnt work for me, and all of the brackets have players that A) have been there forever and B) spend tons of money, im not saying that there are not exceptions to all of my complaints, just that in reality and fielding, the majority of players dont advance that quickly

[nova sierra]

I agree it could be server dependent. My server is quite low pop so that makes a difference. I never win spend slbs but I can usually place okay for low spend especially now at ops 36 bracket, though that won't last forever

[hoary blade]

So 60 or 100 of nothing is well nothing The increase the amount Great but you need to increase the chances of getting these as well

[hollow island]

Please fix the brokenness of the SNW Strike Team battleship pvp crew.

This is getting stupid... Just played with a friend of mine, a fully synergized Laan let his Newton fire off 31 shots in round 3... At round 4 shield got ignored entirely by Una too.

Feels a tad too much... Newtons innate firing pattern has 6 shots in round 3. Boosting them to 31 is crazy. And the 100% shield ignore by round 4 doesn't help either.

[tribal bane]

Noooo I love trouncing Valdores with an epic ship!!😂😂😂

[ripe thicket]

We assume we have the same chances. They have no said the % chances are the same.

[hoary blade]

Can you guys add the 50 condensed venom to boxes from apex or just on the Apex this would keep the use up of the ship more Not that you're going to get a lot from doing that but it would add for the Apex

[nova sierra]

it seems normal to me to assume that they didn't modify something if they do not communicate that they had done it, considering they have released a news with the changes

[burnt viper]

@quick marten you had a good rng day. Trust me on my server they have not. Many have pulled nothing but commons. Again I wouldn't be so mad if they upped it for everyone. They haven't. They made an arc with nothing for under 33+. Had outrage and changed it. Now they make the refine for nothing but 34+. Scopley denies the bottle neck is lower than 34. I'm in an alliance where not one member is 34 yet. We aren't happy.

[fringe drum]

Everyone has put time and effort. The arc is what it is .

Just upgraded 47 platform was 50k common gas to upgrade 4 * takes a while accumulate 50k

[lime socket]

Changing what you can get is an improvement, yes, and it changes every other level, which is a bit more often than “only at certain levels” makes it sound like. It might not be as big a change as you would like, that’s why it’s “slowly” improves. I know people love to hate on the refinery, but it gives far more than the silly daily SMS’s which nobody complains about for some reason and more than the battlepass does (for g3)

[tranquil field]

Why do my ships feel 'weaker'? Especially with armadas

[hard lodge]

I really feel like the tetryon limit is detrimental to the game. I’ve hoarded them forever and rarely use them, and now I’ve gone through almost all of them with the past two cloaking events. You can’t run them so often if you’re going to limit how many we can get. Just doesn’t work out in the end. It’s a wonderful feature. I have no problem not being able to use it for free. But take away the limit for the free chest.

[nova sierra]

Scopely is a small independent game publisher and they need to sell packs to keep the lights on. I've heard they will have to let eco go if they don't sell enough of these packs. So please do it for eco and support scopely

[fringe drum]

Yes they need make money, cant imagine arc and introduction of lopsided new ship. Without thinking of the ramifications to your bottom line. The spending players were a assett.

Good idea but alas poorly implemented.
Arguments for and against mantis ability

[nova sierra]

The funniest one to me was last arc where they dropped disappearing act on the first day

[fringe drum]

A more balanced approach probably been a better option, what that would been, i dont have all the secret squirrel information. I assume your working on these arcs, ships abilities 6 mth to 12months ahead of release. So testing would of seen possible fatalities of said idea.

[woeful rapids]

refinery "improvement" is 💩 , you can't just double it and expect that to make a difference, you need to change the odds not just double the cards.... 2 multiplied by 💩 is still just 2x💩 , but I assume you already realised this and just hoped we were all thick enough not to realise

[hearty ferry]

Is it just me, or is everyone getting an error in the Ship Hangar where it doesn't show the ability of the refits?

[hollow pike]

Not just you

[maiden herald]

All the moaning aside I noticed marked improvement in pulls from the refinery. The odds are still terrible but when you do get top the result is double. For those saying "biggest bottleneck in the game" etc, it is ops dependent. For G4, the ship parts are a bottleneck. For G3, it's uncommons. for those of you debating whether to upgrade ops or not, it's proven time and again that pushing ops provides better progress, at the expense of winning events. If you hold ops, you can win events but have to suffer with fewer resources

[near crescent]

Lol they gave more but last 2 times i did refinery all i got was 12 uncommon ore got all common gas and crystal twice now…. I agree need better odds not just more when you do get it

I was getting more before they did this. It almost seems like they lowered the odds but give more….

[nova sierra]

I think this doesn't apply anymore on certain new servers. If they release 2 servers at the same time like they did for 78 and 79, rushing ops at the expense of ship development greatly increases slb rewards on avg. I started my server over a month or two late and hit the ops 36 bracket a month ago. There's like 12 people in my slb brackets now. Everyone else is below trying to max their saladins, surveys and research it seems

[maiden herald]

Oh yeah ofc if you are at the front of the queue you have it very easy, those at the head of the server, usually know as coiners / whales have an easier time of it. There are slbs with 3 players at times...

[hollow pike]

You’d need weeks if not months of data to determine the true impact of the changes they made. A couple of days worth of pulls tells you nothing

[nova sierra]

I'm a very light spender, I just only took sally to t6 and have not invested more than 200 uc into my surveys. If I had started on launch I'd be that much closer to ops 40 bracket where the big spenders are as you say with like 3 people in their slbs. Max ops on our server is 50. 2nd is 45. Below that are a couple 41s😂

[coarse scaffold]

This is PC Feedback, the update that added the keybindings also messed up the zooming in/out. Scrolling now zooms in/out too much at a time. It's now impossible to zoom in just enough so that all the system names still show, for example. The same goes for zooming in just enough to see ship names, more or less.

[sacred garden]

When you’ve been giving tickets for 3 years for every ticketed event and then suddenly after years decide to stop giving tickets is bs!! I can understand stand changing things after a week to a month, but any event that has been going on for years should be left alone. Only changes in event that are needed is lvl based rewards . Lvl 20 and above should not be still receiving lvl 1-19 rewards. That is for the birds and doesn’t help thoughts lvls or above at all.

[edgy harness]

They gave enough tickets this arc for everyone to do ONE of the three offered ticketed events for every day they have run.
It’s on the player to decide to use them wisely or not.

[neon hill]

how can we get it at these prices.

make some discount according to the situation of the countries. it wouldn't be such a ridiculous job, we can't be at the same level as other players.it's totally unfair.

[edgy harness]

The moment they do that everyone switches a vpn to look like they are currently in that country.

[maiden herald]

Got 420 G4 today on a 2 chest pull, 2x 210. For me, that's better than ever. I'm ops 43

[frigid perch]

Back to real life.. lots of extra time in the day. 😆

[ripe thicket]

I feel ya. I bought the battlepass but after everything else, I am just about done. All 5 officers are behind a paywall. After rhe first spend event, they change Hemmer from one of the most useless abilities to the best pve/faction grinder in the game. Sticking the new officers behind another pay wall and saying they will let us know by December when it will be ftp or allow the elite BP to finish it, yeah, I am done with their money grab. It is too much.

I re-downloaded some other games. I can spend my small amount of money there if need be.

[twilit grove]

@tacit obsidian im getting these errors while grinding my mantis

[regal glacier]

Laaags

[tawdry steppe]

Sunday : wake up do some runs of borg probes because you have a job and your ingame time is limited durring working days , send Franklin to do swarms because you forget its swarm event in the evening , send a ship to farm ship exp for scrap , do your daily because you dont know what will happen a bit later . 17:00 UK time arrives , events resets with a solo leader board to KILL hostiles and the BP milestone gives you 50 Mantis BP's . Buy the other half of Mantis and send the new ship to do its job but when you get there you DON'T get any cargo because you had reached the secret amount of 1500 hostiles killed🖖👍

[unique widget]

This shouldn't happen, scouts should always have a chest.

[vernal blaze]

Not the case. Scouts are never guaranteed to drop a chest.

[unique widget]

Thus the feedback

[sharp scroll]

Feedback from scopely is like opening a fortune cookie ^^

any answer you get is not related to your question. Only blabla. They could use a KI for it. Maybe they do already ...

[frail latch]

Hey @tacit obsidian - would it be possible to add the mission title to the texts are you're reading through. I've completed a couple of missions then returned home which completes the next step and get a big block of text. Sometimes hard to know which text refers to which mission. Just a simple quality of life change request 😊

[tepid matrix]

@tacit obsidian make this attainable! Even for $. Just put it in the game somehow again.

[subtle steppe]

Please fix your server response times! Lag is getting worse, is this being looked at by your infrastructure team?

[lost robin]

When I send a msg in-game, gc,ac, or dm, the msg looks like it posts but when I switch back to the tab my msg isn't there?

[fallen epoch]

What happens once you restart your game?

[lost robin]

No change, even across different platforms.

[lost robin]

Would that be what a chat ban looks like? I can't imagine I'd have one, I keep GC tame and I didn't get the notice msg like I've seen others get when they get hit with one.

[vale wasp]

Start an armada, and ask in your alliance's discord if they see it.

[lost robin]

hmm, nobody is online atm, will have to check that.

[vast glen]

Does scopely help move a family members to another server. Wife/husband.
I'm asking because my wife account is lvl16...and she's trying to move to server 30...but customer service said they don't move accounts for family member.

So now she'll just delete the game and she would have been buying packages to level up...but now she won't play and no extra cash for scopely...which is weird to me....since I thought scopely was in the business of making money...not loosing????

[lost robin]

they give you a token to use to transfer but thats only until lvl 10 or 12 I think.
It doesn't take that much to get back to 16, could just redo it.

[vast glen]

I guess...just weird that they wouldn't even try to help

[cerulean quest]

Drop “ the fog of war “ over deep space ! So annoying you can’t see in the systems once you leave them ! It doesn’t help the game , it’s only frustrating… it’s old …

[fallen epoch]

No. Scopley doesn’t move accounts. Ops 16 isn’t that far into the game. They can restart and join the new server

[swift steppe]

What's with the lag? on 31 at least

[ornate copper]

The way you get getting new officers this BattlePass has been awful. Other than Reg & Una, which weren’t part of the BattlePass, i haven’t missed getting a new Officer in almost a year, this BattlePass I doubt I’ll get a single Officer since I didn’t buy them. Not to mention how SEVERELY overpower the strike team officers are and how only battleships, which are my least favorite ship, will be the only ship used in pvp now. Which also means the bullies in the game will be able to kill even more of us in the game, really looking forward to that. You guys also trashed Hemmer. Not only did you give an epic a rare ability and take away the captains ability , but you trashed what looked like would be the most useful of all the SNW officers. Other than Swarm I’ve yet to find where the SNW officers come close to PMC. Personally I don’t like using officers that are limited to one type of ship but now it’s only one type of ship and one type of hostile. Pretty much you took an ability and split it up to use on 4 officers. I really hope you guys aren’t going to do this again. Then Mantis…. There’s all kinds of stuff I could go on about there. I do like the basic thing, other than we have high level players in 4* rare & better ships camping in systems killing every apex that comes. That really ruins the whole it fir everyone. especially since someone of them kills everyone that enters the system. You guys could’ve made it a bit better so they wouldn’t get any gain from doing this. Sadly I bought the Mantis so I’m stuck with it. I really hope you do better. Since you released incursion, which only about 20-30% of players are even doing, everything that’s been released is not up to par with what you’ve done in the past. I beg you to please do better.

[worn torrent]

Why is there 3 SLB's on a workday? Mining... Hostile... Armada... hmmm Ill be honest i have been so miserable with this Arc. Feel like i have no downtime. Too much to do now... Started out with nothing to do and then went to mind overload. If I wanted more time with my family and to still do well in SLBs then I cant do that.

[covert cargo]

Grue has a question: is there any plans to allow the opertunity for players to get Elea Mäkinen?

[cunning kettle]

#💬-general-feedback

August 2022 Battle Pass Feedback:

Hello. I am new to the game (a few months), but already wishing somethings would be changed to make the pay side valuable to actually spend money on to support the game.

The reasons that hold me back from purchasing the Battle Pass are:

1. Based on your level, you get a certain amount of items / but for the same price as everyone else.
   EXAMPLE: So @weak marten posted this comparsion video from the previous year https://youtu.be/akyF_UEdqVg . I am now comparing my current game to his current game view. My level is 21, so my first level FREE Parasteal is x1M, while on his at 0:35 shows, x127.5M. Under the Elite 1st level, Parasteal: x1.5M for me, x221.6M is on his and a completely different secondary item then me.

(I even saw in another video of his about vault lockbox contents had way more things, including 4 star items, that mine did not ... but all for the same price). This is a horrible setup in both Battle Pass and in what customers get for their value in specific purchases. The game should either heavily discount for lower level users to match what they actually get or make sure the amount received by everyone for paying is equal, whether they can use the items at their level or not. At some point they will, but for now, they pay for the items and don't get the same amount.

2. $27.99 CAD (or $139.99 CAD Elite Premium Rewards) for 1 month and no guarantees of unlocking everything. They can take a page from Halo Infinite and at least make sure that if someone doesn't make the timing of the month, but pays the money, can still eventually unlock the items they are paying for.

3. Mantis ship for example, should be 100% attainable from the Elite rewards track by the end. Or at the very least, at the Elite Premium Reward purchase level, should add the remaining ship schematics needed, while events would offer the same amount but on the free track but with work. This makes no sense to drop $28+ dollars a month and not even get a ship or a character out of it by the end for doing all the work.

I am overall enjoying the game, but just baffled after learning that $ for $, there is no equality and that is extremely disappointing and almost feels like it should be illegal to charge the same amount and not get the same items.

Thanks for your time whoever reads this and considers the feedback.

[sharp scroll]

when the package sizes in refinery are the same as before your "upgrade" ... how can you tell us youu've increased it by 100%? Or do you mean amount is 100% the same as before?

[vale wasp]

If you were 34+ and getting an average of 200 of x mats/day before the change, you'd be getting an average of 400 of x mats/day after the change. Gather data to determine your baseline average, and gather more data after any new change to compare it to.

[sharp scroll]

I don't need to do that. We were told outcome has been increased by 100% but this is definetly not true. Then the package sizes would have had to be doubled, If Scopely only increased the chance to get certain packages, this is kind of fake news and not worth to announce

[edgy harness]

Or do what people have asked for years now, and was a top vote grabber before the suggestions channel was abandoned: standardize refinery payouts, tie increased payouts to refinery level to make the building relevant.

[vale wasp]

The protocol outlined was more to get you to write it down so that you'd have something concrete to compare it to rather than relying on your memory.

Standardizing payouts wouldn't fix the problem. The issue is overconfidence in the recollection of past payouts.

[edgy harness]

Said to a community of people who literally build excel sheets on everything and min/max comparison on most every aspect that has any sort of exchange of grindable doodads to exchange for various widgets. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[vale wasp]

Please share your data with those who believe there's been zero change to the refinery. I think it'd be of great help here.

[sacred garden]

The instant tab should be usable if one has the lat for it, yet having all the materials and resources and then some plus the lat and still not able to use the instant tab is just plain pointless to even have if you can’t use it.

[true rapids]

Refinery output per chest Ops 36 (Observed) as of earlier this year (average per chest loot, so need to multiply by the number of chests opened). I’d have to go back and make a chart, but it converged near their final values relatively quickly when looking at the average up to a given point

[vale wasp]

I can say that without a doubt, some of my biggest pulls were post upgrade. This latest pull was phenomenal, didn't get a crystal SS but it was as good as the ore:

[willow hull]

Read this and tell me it’s not stupid. That’s a starbase we’re attacking, WE the players form the armada. How are we one of the greatest threat to the galaxy?

[vale wasp]

If we weren't attacking them to keep their numbers low, they'd be like locusts. 🦗

[hardy lotus]

Same here @tacit obsidian

[noble berry]

Any news on the server mergers they announced almost a month ago?

[fallen epoch]

👀 they announced server merges? In game? Or on the webstore?

[noble berry]

In game. You have asked me before. You said echo would know. Has he asked yet?

[fallen epoch]

Oh yeah I remember now 😅 sorry I’ve been on holiday so blanked out. He hasn’t said anything about server merges and I haven’t heard anyone talk about merges except for you 😅 I’ll go ask again 🖖

[quiet wadi]

when the rankings will be debugged that not anymore several server rankings will be mixed?
and what about all these bugs mentioned as well s.o. of scoply care? or just fill in only p2w content?

[noble berry]

If you could use some Klingon painsticks in your enquiry to expedite matters, that would be great.

[lime socket]

The sizes have doubled (or increased by about 60% in the case of g3)? I don’t think chances have changed otherwise they’d have put that in the notes too.

[fallen epoch]

💯💯💯 Chances weren’t altered. Just how much each chance have was increased by either 60% or 100% depending on grade and material type

[ornate rose]

So who is actually correct?

[vale wasp]

Both can be correct, what is the question that led to that CS answer?

[fallen epoch]

CS looks like it’s responding to when the refinery generally improves regardless of the improvement Eco announced. What did you ask CS?

[ornate rose]

So technically both?

[fallen epoch]

Both are in response to something different regarding the refinery. Eco is talking about the refinery improvement update. CS looks like it’s speaking about when the refinery payouts improve with ops level which happened before the improvement already

@ornate rose ops 34

[ornate rose]

When the improvements to the refinery took effect. Was it ops 34 or refinery level

[fallen epoch]

@ornate rose if you have anymore questions about the refinery let’s take it to #🤝-help-each-other since here has slow mode enabled 🖖

[ornate rose]

Ok ty

[lime socket]

The refinery payouts don’t change at ops 35 though. 34 and 35 are the same, next change is at 36.

[fallen epoch]

Oh 👀 that’s an issue then

[glad cradle]

Since uncommon and rare can’t be purchased with lat, if you don’t have enough of either, the instant option is not available.

[bronze nova]

You have access to his game account time stamps?

[vale wasp]

I can see the relative time in his SSs

[crude sandal]

mining (and most events, unless they say 'docked' to score) dailies also don't care about protected or not - you get points for whatever's been mined regardless of whether you keep the materials...

[vale wasp]

This first SS tells me when he was hit. And the second tells me daily reset was ~4h ago.

[steel escarp]

When are they going to fix all the red numbers all over the game. not only are they excessive but they are also completely incorrect. my refinery says 66 and my materials says 7 but there is nothing I can refine in the materials section. Borg tech shows 2 but I can't refine anything and my Latinum refinery says 15.

[gritty scroll]

Remove the red thing on the profile picture, it's annoying. @tacit obsidian

[tribal bane]

Really a double Epic G4 chest and this…. FIX THIS! This is so out of balance

[nova sierra]

More pips? Seriously??

[tribal bane]

8xs the cost for about a quarter of the payout value from an epic 3* 🤦‍♂️

[steel escarp]

@tacit obsidian New patch today; where are the patch notes for it???

[open sundial]

They added more PIPs lol

[steel escarp]

and now the shortcut keys don't show up; just says "input_control_name_f..."

[fallen epoch]

Refit descriptions were fixed

[slow nimbus]

Mantis-you did some neat things with it, but, geez, I do not have time to grind another 150+ hostiles a day for this game. It’s worse than the Borg probes which have gotten pretty bad since you refuse to add anything higher than a 33 system for two years! And the one officer you made to help with that by increasing drop yields…wait for it…you decided to change his ability at the last moment!?! It’s not like you just invented traders? You couldn’t wait a month and roll out an officer just for that? Unbelievable! Grrrr!

[steel escarp]

I filled my mantis cargo, 39K, in less than 20 min today; it seems far faster than nano probes was for me.

[slow nimbus]

What level Actian's you able to hit? Maybe it gets better as you can move up? I'm just starting out with it. 600K borg probes takes me about 15m which isn't horrible, but that's also enough for double refines every day and I ain't close to that for the Mantis refinery.

[upper parrot]

On our server, the systems are already pretty full, so it is not really possible to do the optimal 1-2 chrysalis hits and then Apex spawns that you can kill.. so it is starting to take longer.. and that is still with just people that bought the ship, it will be absolutely crazy when FTP will get the ship and all of them will go to the one same system.

I really hope that by that time some officer with below deck ability to increase Venom loot will be released that Hemmer used to have, as even with prime it would be about 100 chrysalis hostiles to fill 30k cargo on T2 Mantis on 34 levels - FTP players will probably not have prime, so it will take them even more hostile kills and the systems will be packed full with ships. That will not be a pleasant experience.

[gaunt tartan]

Getting 368 from 35 and 2484 from apex, its not that bad

[upper parrot]

The ops levels 33-39 with new Mantis will not be able to go to 35 for a few weeks at least (and that is a big number of players on my server), for me, well.. I hope to be in as high system as I can manage when FTP players arrive in numbers 😄
The grind is very nice and interesting when you can choose and pick correct hostiles with exocomps that you need and then kill Apex whenever it spawns. But as soon as there are 3-4 active ships in the system, you will find you can barely keep the exocomps running and most of the time Apex is taken by someone else, and then the rate of venom acquisition drops a lot and time needed to fill cargo suddenly doubles or triples. This is not an issue you will encounter on Borg probes, where everything is the same and you just kill whatever comes near you.

[midnight delta]

oh goodie more red dots and now the PC game lags.. way to go Scopely you on's.. stop adding crap that no one cares about that slows the game down.. how about fixing the crap thats broken now.. or is that to hard for you On's

[vivid breach]

OMG! Scopely! Get rid of those damn red indicators on frames/avatars! And get rid of the rest you added recently, too! I don't care if I have the ability to get additional things. I choose to wait to cash in on certain items. Or at least give us the option to turn off those damn indicators!

[slate crown]

really? more red signs? turn it off please!

[gaunt tartan]

I am doing 35 from ops 39 its only like two days I moved to 40

[midnight delta]

wait Scopely will be adding more red indicators as they havent annoyed the players enough yet with worthless stuff.. it would be a shame if those idiot would actually fix the underling issues with the game.. that probably will take someone with more brain power then they have

[pliant granite]

The avatars/frames really didn't need a red icon, I know they're there. Some with the holodeck, I'm perfectly aware I have 500 patterns buffers and can buy a mission, I just don't want to

[tranquil dew]

Keep getting payment failure notifications randomly 😖

[coarse sundial]

please please please can we have black aleart added to sound effects when we jump with discory... feals odd not hearing it when jumping usning the spore drive

[sand bear]

Payment failure notifications constant

[quasi wren]

Ugh 😣 another red marker

[smoky onyx]

We need more Tritanium! I'm at level 44 and the amount earned daily is just barely enough to do dailies and events. When the next incursion comes along I will not be able to participate as the cost will be too high. Raiding isn't an option either as the sheer time (and trit repairs) involved in gaining the necessary billions of trit would mean I would never sleep.

[tribal bane]

Bonus refinery in 5 days…. I mean really I appreciate the notice but really do I need to scroll right for 5 days for nothing? I mean it would be great if there were a mechanism to tell players things…. Oh like what you have ANNOUNCEMENTS

[dire flare]

@tacit obsidian Please let scopely know that the pips are out of control. In response to all of the horrible feedback on the first round of pips, what do they do? Add more……🤦‍♂️

[tacit obsidian]

Hey HJH are you asking about already announced or ones yet to be announced?

[dire flare]

Also…. Why? ….. totally useless feature

[old frost]

Bad UX move, now the bar above is shifted left which takes up even more of the limited screen estate. It is quite annoying to see the state of the game in rapid decline in terms of stability and lag issues, BUT HEY, we get a collapsible section which noone asked for.

[dire flare]

There is absolutely no reason to hide that panel….. zero

If I want to hide the UI, I will use the really useful hide UI button

[indigo gull]

If you go over a base relocation it zooms your view out, quite annoying. In that mode

[molten jungle]

Can we please get an option to hide ALL the little red cube notifications all over the place now? It's out of control. No one ever asked for an avatar/frame notification, but here we are with one now. On the flip side, never needed to hide the chest/help menu so pretty useless.

[dire flare]

https://tenor.com/view/jean-luc-picard-star-trek-face-palm-fail-gif-12802835

[grizzled plume]

And someone signed off that this was worth developer time. What a waste when there is so much that needs resolving where that time could be spent more usefully.

[woeful nymph]

The exocomp buff indicator is very helpful. Please thank the team @tacit obsidian

[dry mural]

I don't know what's going on with you... but the server lags are so unacceptable. It's an outrage... any small operator/manufacturer can do better than that. If you don't want to lose players, do something about it.

[sharp axle]

we get stuff like this, when you should have been working on letting us join DS armadas directly from the armadas page……
but i guess people wasting directives when people dont join after flying 11 minutes and getting distracted only benefits scopely

[hardy scroll]

@tacit obsidian anyone ever plan to fix the lag during territory takeovers and defenses? Asking for a server.

[indigo quartz]

Fixed an issue when the Alt key would sometimes get stuck when reassigning key binds
How would I reassign key binds?

[quasi wren]

Switch the placement of these and make the event one collapsing.

[untold chasm]

Is there a reason we have to wait 5 days out of the 8 days for the refinery 3* bonuses?