🏆-event-chat

[glacial mauve]

hitting empty bases over and over

[vivid gyro]

Uh. You kind of answered your own situation there.

[teal holly]

Everyone has the same opportunity to exploit the loophole

[cunning radish]

ya

[lime rose]

Yeah, nothing happens to you

[vivid gyro]

Loophole is a loophole. 🤷🏻‍♂️ that’s a scoring issue in all pvp events.

[vivid gyro]

Augment space? Factions you don’t have locked?

[humble tundra]

A loophole applied evenly is fair.

[glacial mauve]

I was leading without loophole until someone else did use it

[vivid gyro]

Rogue players on your server?

Alliances you are kos with?

[cunning radish]

So why didn't you start doing it

[glacial mauve]

i am now

[cunning radish]

🙂

[lime rose]

Augment is boring. Except to autogrind.

[glacial mauve]

going to do the damage one tomorrow

[vivid gyro]

So they attack!!!! Gasp!!

[vivid gyro]

I did this without bases.

[lime rose]

Because I wanted them to 😉

[cunning radish]

Of course.

Most damage came from ship vs ship. Unless u attacked a base that constantly repaired

[plain flint]

My server lost as whale got cleaned out on opps server

[vivid gyro]

I get it, you want the game to fit your play style and yours alone. I do understand.

[glacial mauve]

im bit lower ops

[vivid gyro]

Had several that went around and hit dead bases over and over.

[cunning radish]

That's for champion event.

Not damage.

Adds barely anything / nothing to the damage one.

[glacial mauve]

nothing to damage

[lime rose]

Not at all. I just don't want the game to force people into someone else's play style. Make incursions opt in and we probably wouldn't be having this conversation

[vivid gyro]

Make mining opt in.

[humble tundra]

Make worms opt in

[cunning radish]

Make the game opt in

[lime rose]

We agree

[vivid gyro]

It already is!

[cunning radish]

https://tenor.com/view/me-after-watching-every-horror-movie-at-night-shocked-scary-terrified-maya-rudolph-gif-16720729

[vivid gyro]

We don’t!

https://tenor.com/view/katena-sarcasm-tbv-sarcasm-eyeglasses-gif-16424238

[glacial mauve]

and we are the smaller server

[lime rose]

I would be fine if there were no worms. Although I am sure someone likes it. Not sire who

[cunning radish]

i wish there was more borg events personally

borg ftw

give me borg ships plsssssss

[vivid gyro]

One. 24hr. Period. One. Day. Out. Of. The. Month. That’s it. Just one. So much heartburn over one day. You get the rest. Just one.

[cunning radish]

i want a cubeeeeeeeeee boiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[vivid gyro]

Higher lvl borg systems please.

[stiff knot]

Ds9. I want defiant

[cunning radish]

that too

[vivid gyro]

One more month.

[lime rose]

You do you. Let me be me. Dream the impossible dream

[vivid gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/meh-mediocre-so-so-kinda-maybe-gif-13935570

[stiff knot]

Fast moving battleship not the slow moving ones we have now

[cunning radish]

the more important question is

do I want to play WoW again

[vivid gyro]

So……an interceptor. 👀

[lime rose]

I want a Reliant. A boy can dream.

[cunning radish]

did u guys see this

sec

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693383661290258432/999469181957328987/unknown.png

[vivid gyro]

Yep. Do you know who that is with the ent d

[plain flint]

Yep at least 5 houses for that

[cunning radish]

what a filthy ratbag xD

[cunning radish]

I do not soz

probably Ska

or someone

not many 60s

[vivid gyro]

Other biggest spender.

[cunning radish]

the girl?

oh is that trader?

[vivid gyro]

Neo tek

[cunning radish]

ah neo

[abstract gate]

That’s two $$99 repairs haha

[cunning radish]

rofl

[vivid gyro]

What is that crew!? That’s just insult to injury

[cunning radish]

its an armada crew

[abstract gate]

Crewing costs literally lol

[vivid gyro]

I’m gonna get in. Let’s just !!!!!!!!!

I want to know what that repair bill is

[plain flint]

So glad was 19 and shielded for waste time

[cunning radish]

u missed out wally

shudda joined in

let off some steam

[plain flint]

I still got hit by 53 player

[cunning radish]

hah

did u defend ok?

[vivid gyro]

49, 56, 57, 60. Good times.

[plain flint]

No point they were 5 x my ship

[cunning radish]

ah

u need to go to 50 already

are u close yet

[plain flint]

Happy for the k to get there ?

[cunning radish]

save up and ull get there in some months surely?

[plain flint]

Was 4 * common ore now 4 * uncommon ore nxt build

[cunning radish]

yeah i just got 42 and need more ore

42 shipyard and kelvin soon 😄

and ill finally be a little medium boi

[plain flint]

Watch kelvin its a green pig

[cunning radish]

haha yeah

i need to hit 45s for my fed daily now

so need it asap

[plain flint]

Suggest you watch rev duece 40 to 50 ships aint kelvin

[cunning radish]

idc about what rev deuce suggests

ive played long enough to think for myself about what I want to do

[plain flint]

Pillum as not champion rom no point yet

Do your research re kelvin other ships

[cunning radish]

yeah i know

i dont want to wait 4 months for a valdore

and i want the 46 newton first

before piluym

as i have never had a battleship

i know the pilum is "better" but i want a fat chunky boy

[plain flint]

Enterprise A 650 bps compared to northcutt 53 and 150 bps

[cunning radish]

yeah dont build a 40 ship

[plain flint]

Skipped newton

[cunning radish]

pointless these days

ur going from 42 to 53 ship?

[plain flint]

42 ?

[cunning radish]

42 unc ship

kelvin etc

u didnt get a 46?

[plain flint]

Ent A only option 50 + 37k fed creds 49 $160 not sure options 50

Ent A is 1 million fed credits

Like have it nostalgia but not at that cost 49

[cunning radish]

yeah

[abstract gate]

Should be at 250k bp points today?

[vivid gyro]

That’s what I’ve got 🤷🏻‍♂️

[abstract gate]

I didnt but any exocomps for incursion

Is there gonna be any chance to spend those coins in the future

[vivid gyro]

Next incursion

[elder comet]

don't tell me this is gonna be weekly or so 😐

[wintry cypress]

Twice a month

[elder comet]

can't we make it yearly? 😄

[vivid gyro]

Possibly *

[vivid gyro]

It’s 24hrs. Come on. One day. Have some fun with it.

We do have prep events on the calendar for the 23 & 24.

[elder comet]

not in the ingame schedule

[vivid gyro]

In game pop up calendar

[elder comet]

that's the old one before they messed up

[vivid gyro]

I refer you back to Eco’s comment. The prep events were not removed from the calendar.

Was originally an in arc and a between the arc incursion.

The first prep events aren’t on the IGN as well.

[humble socket]

What's the cool chill and hot gossip!?

My clock says 420

It must be broken 😃

I still have no clue how to score or play incursions.... I mean I smashed some ships and bases but could I have smashed more??

[vivid gyro]

Yes

[stray lily]

Scopely thanks for this wonderful event, 24h Digital detox no Playing stfc👍👍

[uneven vortex]

Thanks Scopely. I don t play this day. Beurk event. If i want play pvp i play CS not star trrk game

[fallow geyser]

Wheres this event

[elder comet]

holodeck

[autumn swift]

Eu server my side the event too long,game crashed 2 times in pc. lagg haved some delay for reports. First two 6 h in eu server its night Realy??? @aEco sorry i like pvp but i lost minimum 1 or 1,5billion tritanium for ships repair me not worth it.

[grizzled mulch]

Easiest strategy I could give you is to kill/raid anything from the other server during your attack phase. When you’re defending, just try to disrupt their raiding. Don’t worry too much about them raiding if you’re on attack, and don’t worry too much about raiding/killing ships when you’re on defense. Honestly, you could just shield for both defense phases and go nuts on both attacks and you’d be sitting pretty

[wintry cypress]

The mission event is Ops 34+

[elder comet]

just stick around at enemy server all the time

there are only downside staying on yours if you plan to participate

reason is the different scoring whether you are on home server or on the enemy one. the only event you would need to skip if you don't come back to your home server will be the 2x 6hrs defense event

to get dmg for event you simply kill everything. bases, ships, miner etc

[humble socket]

When I was there the GC was en Fuego 🔥

Everyone in my server hyped me up as some kind of hurricane 🌀

[elder comet]

the whole design by itself (incursion) is pretty bad to be honest. seems like interns had their first try.

[humble socket]

They worked out tons of bugs in record time in fact.

[wintry cypress]

@elder comet there are also downsides to being on the other server. Especially if they planned to be stationed in every system so once somebody jumps in you got a pilum up your ar*e 😂

[abstract gate]

Thanks 99.9% sure is on track for overflow

[elder comet]

not really. the only way to gain pts is being the invader 24/7

[abstract gate]

Yes they need to adjust the pt structure so there is incentive to defend

[humble socket]

I'm not trying to kiss up or disagree for arguments sake... I really this turned out like way better than I thought it would, even some of our twenties got involved... Met new folks... Learned their stories... And destroyed their ships with wreckless abandonment.

[elder comet]

it shouldn't matter where you are either on your home or enemy world and still get the same pts. or do separate events. one only including home world and the other only enemy

[abstract gate]

Right now on the individual level there's no reason at all to defend and miss out on xslb positions

[humble socket]

The week long wait was worth it

[abstract gate]

From a min max reward perspective

[elder comet]

they took out all possible dynamic if you are just after the ranks as of now

i often wonder if there is a single person that studied game design and or is proficient in it 😄

they could have given bonus pts for being in systems lvl20+. but now everyone just stays in 1-19 and not much is happening because no one wants to take any risks

[abstract gate]

The only reward reason to be on your own server during defense phase is to complete the sms. Imheqrd you have to be on the correct phase for that

[elder comet]

yes. sms is the one and only reason to stay or come back for the time being of completing the sms

but you can also easily skip that. rewards are mediocre 😄

[abstract gate]

I was in a 20+ system for a while in the beginning. I ended up getting smacked by a whale and my defense platforms didn't show up for 10 to 20 seconds after he smacked my base so he got free amagams in

[elder comet]

let's say you are invading and got i dunno a 4m ent and losing vs 5m ent or whatever. you would still get way more pts than the defender with better ship because invader get 3x the pts 😄

[abstract gate]

I had to move to save myself, but I also had to recall ships that were on the way to the sms. So I struggled for 5 minutes getting smacked by the whale and having defense platform repair not showing up

[elder comet]

easy way to finish sms is sending miners etc into the system and try to hit the ships that gives the most pts for losing.

those you attack will get 0 pts because miner doesn't count

[abstract gate]

Yeah that's what I did lol

[elder comet]

and their ship won't die so you will finish it quickly

[abstract gate]

Sent envoy and frank cjz I was already spending lat on repairs

[elder comet]

so many flaws in all these events.

i had to fight in yoruba so i sent dvor, ns horizon and such

[abstract gate]

Flew my envoy into ops 32 ships for 40k out of 480k

I don't mind that the sms can be colluded or gamed. Allows min maxers to get it done asap and allows people to pvp if they want

Unfortunately my server and pair are low pop. I think maybe 20 or 30 people out of 1500 or so players between both servers completed any of the sms

The biggest whale on our server only had one player on the other server that could even reach the system

[elder comet]

not to mention you won't lose pts for gettin raided. so you could easily make an agreement with someone from the other server to raid each other to get pts on scoreboard

[sick valve]

https://tenor.com/view/white-ravens-mm-white-ravens-white-ravens-gif-24383765

...sucks.

[solid glen]

Congratulation to Scoply! For the stupidest, most unfair, time-consuming and demotivating event ever. The poor players who, for example, have a permanent sign because of vacation, illness and then have been emptied, etc....

[versed tide]

Well if it helps our baby server 201 beat out big brother 188 in the apac rounds

[solid glen]

only one thing helps - taking his allymembers and searching a new game that makes fund

[slender gust]

Thanks for the most unfair event than you could have come up with. This event means that player's like me who just wanted to do their daily events and work on their ships can not. us player's with ships with 1 million in power being hunted by ships with 64 million power how is this fair.

[cunning radish]

it isnt

what made you think it was supposed to be

[magic slate]

the worst ever event!

[azure helm]

Its 24 hours. I had fun, im not a whale, relax. At least 340 other days to mine, and if you finish dailies before event reset and wait to do dailies at event end, you dont miss them.

[cunning radish]

exactly - ppl complaining about a few 'forced' pvp days for the people who like that

vs how many not

isnt all about you

[stuck portal]

This event has convinced me it’s time to stop playing, the pvp in this game has always been unfair it should be restricted to only 1 or 2 ops level difference

[cunning radish]

if that's what's best for you, more power to you

[vagrant otter]

Loved the event

[rigid lake]

What a crap event.... pvp is totally unballenced, just a pay player event to show how big ships you can buy. Will not play during such events any more.

[abstract gate]

what a pointless event. serves only the turnover of scopely. and then let unequally strong servers compete against each other and the stronger one has the better times. if this is done regularly now, i'll put sign on and stay offline. you can't even do your events. i just think it sucks. <@&509691205798592532> @scopely

[autumn swift]

I realy hate this even 😔😔😔

https://tenor.com/view/scopely-scopely-but-gif-18608365

[gentle cobalt]

event is about which server have worst players in 'managing shield and sleep' and relocation tokens and which server have more players with bad connection 🤣, and reword is crappy also

[abstract gate]

The relays from the slb are exceptional

[gentle cobalt]

not problem with shards problem are Una abilities

[sturdy scaffold]

@pseudo rune please feedback that incursions is the absolute worse thing to happen to this game since borgmadas, in fact I’d probably take a daily borgmada event over ever having incursions run again.

[soft spire]

A really bad Idea the incursion event so I have taken the option to not participate, problem is it make any mining daily impossible as its an instant attack if any of the other servers players spot a miner, as they do love an easy kill as most mining ships are so weak.

[gentle cobalt]

and put this type event during working day is also problem, scopely think this play child (most players are above 25 or 30 years old)

[north pike]

@pseudo rune loving the incursion event. Great fun. It is one day of geeat pvp action and on ours 155 v 130 not noticed any real issues. For thise wanting to do daily mining there is a 12 hour window before and after the event to complete it. Would just make sure battle pass points events do not include any mining during incursions.

[soft spire]

make miner immune from attack during incursion events is the simple answer

[midnight compass]

i don't understand this score. we are winning? (blue) but have less pts?

[abstract gate]

Make the event run on a weekend! People work on weekdays and sleep normally on weekdays!!

You are clearly getting smashed

[abstract gate]

Most people have real life at weekends too, its a fine balance

Just don't run during a BP

[spare badger]

https://tenor.com/view/simon-cowell-thats-a-no-its-a-no-its-a-no-from-me-gif-7663264

[fickle meadow]

It’s amazing the amount of crybabies on here seriously

[spare badger]

https://tenor.com/view/crybaby-billy-butcher-karl-urban-the-boys-wah-wah-gif-17866102

[worldly bluff]

It's an OK event, something different to "fly from a to b and kill c"
But the balance just sucks big time. Or actually there is none.

[bitter snow]

The balance is entirely down to the server pairings unfortunately, 159/162 feels like a fairly even match on available ship strengths - with top-player-power slightly higher on 159 than on 162, but we're still winning thus far 😄

[north pike]

You are winning, we have seen error where it misses leading digit off. There is probably a 1 in front which would make the balance about right

[bitter snow]

The end of the points have vanished off the visible area of the text boxes on screen. To the right of each of those numbers (when you first start) it says "PTS" after each number.... the text is being truncated/hidden because of bad font choices/misunderstanding of how big the scores were going to get 😂

Not sure if it's a larger viewport on PC or not?

[inland salmon]

I waited for 1.5h in one of the pvp systems and posted it in GC but no one wants to finish sms event.

Am i the only one with this?

[wide girder]

This event really needs to be on the weekend. No way I'm staying up all night to play in my attack window on a school night.

[scenic cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/tired-sleepy-exhausted-working-work-gif-14831633

[marsh flame]

Not enough 0s. Or. Too many. Ours has the same issue. When 146 go over 1 tril it will match up

[cedar panther]

Not getting at least 1 free token to change servers makes it a very pointless event. You can only take part if you spend money

[bitter snow]

I still think you missed the event, mate 😐

Though some of that is down to Scopely not pushing out the IMS at the same time as the first prep event

[peak cradle]

Nope everywhere

[cedar panther]

The reply I got from scopeley is that they never issued any out after aoac was removed who h is not true as you and D got some. O still managed the defense SMS but will prob no doubt miss out on the buffers

[bitter snow]

Yeah, I think that was a canned response and not accurate

Guessing you didn't to the Prep event that was build a ship or spend mats, right?

I know a lot skipped on that one

[cedar panther]

If it was build a ship then it would've been that one then I missed as I had no ships to build. I build a miner but prob not enough

[bitter snow]

And the first day of the IMS they pushed out their domination/gain power prep event a bit before the IMS was live, so (quite a few) people completed it fast and missed out on scoring that way

The time line of blaming apac as such doesn't make sense, because all the prep events and the IMS had finished before the abortive first attempt at APAC incursions

But if you didn't finish one of the prep events during the IMS run, then you got nowt 😦

[north pike]

Just like our server earlier. It has caught up now 130 have tge extra digit.

[cedar panther]

I'll just moan for a wee while longer 😂😂

[bitter snow]

Heck, there's enough of it today

And here was me thinking maybe it'd be US that were the loudest 😂

[silver pike]

Let’s go 155!!!

[north pike]

And this one is now

[silver pike]

I still think they are bro 😬😬

I haven’t heard near enough complaints about the no conduits issue from EU

[bitter snow]

Oh, is today overflow from yesterday? 😂

[silver pike]

Yes

[bitter snow]

Bonz is EU

It's not a perfect event, and there's room for improvements (many), but as a gimmick I like it 😄

makes a change being able to talk to people outside of the usual fishbowl, too

[cedar panther]

It does. Shame there is still friendly (server only) fire

[viral coral]

Great event , have loved it , even if we have are bums handed to us …this time 😂

[peak cradle]

@pseudo rune will server matchups change or will we have to face a bigger servers every time?

Cause then 50% will never have fun with incursions

[bitter snow]

They're meant to rotate in some way shape or form, because there are left-out servers because of the odd numbers

Dunno if that's per run or per month or what though

[merry blaze]

Yeah I read it as a round robin type thing

[bitter snow]

Some days you will be the spank-ee, and some days you will be the spank-err 😂

[peak cradle]

I hope so cause now we face our usual xslb opponent and they are way bigger than us

[cedar panther]

I always seem to be the spank-ee

[gusty relic]

That's literally the only halfway good thing about it.

[north pike]

We have always been matched with 130 for xslbs. Generally pretty even in that some brackets we come out on top others we don't but the split of players in top 10 and top100 usually pretty even.

[cedar panther]

Will it always be EU vEU?

[bitter snow]

should be

[floral trail]

When's the event end so I can cary on playing without someone in a ship 4x my power thwacking me?

[north pike]

I think having the attack overnight can help if you have enough players that can be online to raid and that you can find some. I got in on a raid that when I got there had 1 trillion trit, 450 biliion ps and was getting 600 mil per load, mainly trit sonlots of points.

Next time 130 will have that slot so may benefit.

[cedar panther]

Mine will go back to Just 3.5times more powerful 😂

[peak cradle]

60X my power 😂 134M ship killing my puny enterprise

Some of our whales quit already lol

[marsh flame]

It’s a fair point though. Making the transfer tokens easy to miss. Is a fail. That’s the whole event they miss out on. (Others are saying they did everything. But didn’t get the tokens. So. There’s that too )

[bitter snow]

yeah, the easy event not timed properly and the nigh impossible/terrible ROI event the following day was not a good way of doling them out 😐

[marsh flame]

If you’re on holiday at the start of the month…

Tough. You just can’t play in the rest of the month. That sucks

[dreamy moss]

L'event le plus nul jamais proposé pas ce jeu. Lamentable....ne profite qu'au gros joueurs. A te dégoûter....merci scop....

[bitter snow]

Though I think they're doing prep again for the next incursions as well?

[marsh flame]

Yeah. It’s simple though. Give 10 tokens free. Earn the other 10 from event

[covert arch]

Scopely says, this is balanced. Ok

[bitter snow]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-planet-don-cheadle-super-hero-tree-power-gif-5090285

[marsh flame]

At least that way. You can take part. Even if it’s only 50%

[brazen ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/ooh-matron-kenneth-williams-carry-on-camping-gif-20834898

[marsh flame]

Depends on what you do

[bitter snow]

I can't link them here, too rood. But if you've not seen the Don Cheadle captain planet skits.... you need to 😄

[marsh flame]

Sure I lost. But. There’s ways around it

[marsh flame]

Oh I have

[sweet mantle]

Kudos to Scopely and the devs on the incursions - my favourite event ever! Lots of fun 🙂 💪

[compact monolith]

@pseudo rune At least have the decency to name the Incursion event properly. It’s not PvP it’s WvW (wallet vs wallet)

[sweet mantle]

156 vs 157, I'm ops 39 and it's been great fun. Loads of fun fighting of the whales whilst emptying bases

Lots of strategies available to combat whales, just gotta practice them

[cunning radish]

As opposed to every other part of the game?

Star Trek Wallet Command

[sweet mantle]

Less moaning, more 🔥... that might improve your scores 😂

[cunning radish]

i need a new pc game to play

[serene quartz]

This event might be nice for Wales 🐳, but I can only take cover as I'm only cannon fodder. So 24h shielding necessary now every two weeks?

How about an event where players from different servers are brought together taht are of the same level?

[cunning radish]

To be fair, there's no reason why scopely couldn't simply make brackets: 10-20, 21-29, 30-39, etc

But I guess they want all out warfare

[sweet mantle]

And that would inhibit the whale hunters

[serene quartz]

They might get my withdrawal from the game then.

[cunning radish]

ay

[bitter snow]

FF7 remake is on steam now I think?

[sweet mantle]

We have lots of players who immediately went after the biggest players on the opposing server - more rss

[bitter snow]

that's got a few hours to it at least

[cunning radish]

meh....

i just installed wow

used an old token

played for 3 hours

...yep im done

[bitter snow]

oh, oh dear

[cunning radish]

uninstalled already

lol

[bitter snow]

oh 😂

[fathom tide]

clearly not done, still crying here

[bitter snow]

whereas if I reinstall EQ at any point, that's usually me vanished for a day or two

[cunning radish]

EQ?

[bitter snow]

EverQuest

[cunning radish]

ahhh right

[bitter snow]

there are older MMOs, but not that are hugely active anymore 🙂

[cunning radish]

maybe i should just play eve online and try to get into it...

but nahhhhhhhhh

[bitter snow]

I think that has a solid risk of getting too into it 😂

Elite: Dangerous is good for chilling out to

[cunning radish]

i want something like...light

[bitter snow]

so long as you don't get caught out by a hutton orbital trade run

[cunning radish]

but also engaging for long periods

thats why i like stfc so much

its light, but u can play it a little or a lot

[bitter snow]

yeah, easy to pick up and put down whenever

[cunning radish]

yeah

guess im just at that period in my life

lol

[bitter snow]

Peggle? 😄

[cunning radish]

LOL

i started stray and cbf even playing that past an hour

[bitter snow]

I don't have the time to sit and play for hours on end, which is sadly what most games want/need now to get into

[cunning radish]

yeah

i have the time atm just dont have the oomph in me anymore....

[bitter snow]

Snatching an hour here and there on the FF7 remake because I know the bones of the story inside out and upside down at this point, so it's easy to dip in and out

[cunning radish]

ah yeah

[bitter snow]

plus mega nostalgia factor 😂

[cunning radish]

ive never really liked final fantasy that much

of course ff7 is the most epic tho

poor arie

or w/e her name is

[bitter snow]

FTL is a good rogue-like-ish thing

[cunning radish]

yeah i enjoyed ftl

[bitter snow]

Aerith/Aeries depending on your locale/translation

[cunning radish]

ah thats it

aerith

im sad i cant even play overwatch anymore

thats been gutted now with ow2 and 5v5....

sle sigh

[bitter snow]

Minecraft?

[cunning radish]

never liked minecraft

[bitter snow]

That's another time trap for me...

Open laptop, play 5 minutes... what do you mean it's 3am?

[cunning radish]

hahhaah

im interested in torchlight infinite

coming sometime eventually on mobile

who knwos when tho

[floral trail]

Where do you get the transfer tokens from

[cunning radish]

do u mean for the incursion event?

[floral trail]

Yeah

[cunning radish]

if so, u cant get them anymore

[bitter snow]

the IMS that ran a little over a week ago, or cash

[cunning radish]

they were from an event a week ago

yeah or money

[floral trail]

Can't see them

Ah ok lol, must have missed the event in the cluster of all the other events and having covid

[bitter snow]

the small one is a $20 pack, so if you're not spending you might not see it?

[cunning radish]

i wish there was a stargate game like this

or any other phone game like this

[bitter snow]

I think there's a 40k one that's meant to be a little like it, but never got far in

[cunning radish]

i hated it

if its the same one imt hinking of

[bitter snow]

I'd just as soon be free of this one tbh 😂 , but addictive tendencies

[cunning radish]

i hate games where u have to continually produce ships

and put them into fleets

its just the same old clash of clans or w/e bs

[bitter snow]

Miss the good old fashioned RTS games

[cunning radish]

wc3

good old days

my favouritr of all time is total annihilation: kingdoms

few probably know it tho lol

[floral trail]

I liked Red alert and the c&c games

[proven steeple]

PvP is easily the worst implemented aspect of this game. When was the last time you attacked someone without knowing the outcome in advance? Suspense is the most important part of the game, but you only ever get to experience it in pve scenarios.

[floral trail]

Yeah they need to re write the whole battle mechanic

[cunning radish]

i mean in a mobile p2w game

thats unfortunately how it will always be

[proven steeple]

But that just undermines the argument of "the game is primary PvP." for most people I play with, the funnest part is Armadas etc

[shrewd light]

Looks like an unexpected victory for us on 128 💪

[cunning radish]

who says the primarily pvp?

its an aspect sure, but 'primarily'? mmm idk about that

[proven steeple]

Every p2w whale on our server

[cunning radish]

i mean for them it might be primarily p2w

[floral trail]

Primarily its a mining sim

[cunning radish]

ay

lol

[floral trail]

Kind of miss Star Wars Rise to Power. Pvp was all about joint cooperation rather than having the biggest red triangle

[bitter snow]

That's definitely the thing that's missing the most from this game vs other MMOs... no real strategy outside of 'embiggen thy ships and crew'

[cunning radish]

anyone know of any long-term mobile games?

[bitter snow]

This was the first one I got into.. I think marvel strike force and things like that are probably the closest

Candy crush/angry birds, if you count them adding more and more levels as 'long term' 😄

[cunning radish]

ew

lol

[bitter snow]

stfc is in a weird space... really it's too involved to be a mobile game, but not involved enough to be a PC/consolegame

[floral trail]

Minecraft lol, been 10yrs

[bitter snow]

probably why most of the players are in their 30s and up... it's all those people who want to play a game, but don't have the longer stretches of time to play one 😄

[bitter snow]

was PC/java first 😄

[floral trail]

True

[bitter snow]

If I could dedicate regular 2-3 hour stretches of evening to a game, I'd still be playing everquest on the regular

[cunning radish]

cant wait for builders of egypt to release

[bitter snow]

being able to dip in for 5-10 minutes here and there on stfc works, even if it ends up eating more time throughout the day

[fierce cosmos]

EverQuest... Man, that takes me back. Doing the Magician epic and the death levels... I was even a guide for several years (even wrote some of the dynamic quests and events). Good times.

[bitter snow]

I was on Torvonnilous (then Cazic Thule after merge)

Stopped playing regularly around Prophecy of Ro /Depths of Darkhollow I think

Played from Velious 😄

[fierce cosmos]

Started on Rodcent Knife (sp?). I forget what it was after. I don't remember when I stopped, I know we were raiding Sleeper on the regular. I'd have to look at a timeline of releases.

[bitter snow]

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/wiki/eq:expansions

Oh, Seeds of Destruction I got as far as

so long ago 😐

dipped in and out since, usually in 1-2 month bits

[fierce cosmos]

Wow there's a lot. Blinks slowly

I think House of Thule for me. It was right around the time Rift came out

[bitter snow]

heh, yeah, and still going

log in occasionally as it's FTP now, to say hi to old guildmates

[fierce cosmos]

I may need to download it and poke my head in

[bitter snow]

I mained a monk (Zabatiz, actually) and gotta say, PoPower and GoD were my favourite expansions for raiding. I think I was the only puller in the guild who actively enjoyed Uqua 😄

[dark dome]

I still played project 1999 up until September

[brave crescent]

Our server was equal but in the morning a lv 40 player forget his shield and it was over for 122

[abstract gate]

i'm so mad at scopely. this event will cause a lot of players to quit. especially if this happens regularly now. what's that supposed to mean? because of the few pvp players you do such a 🤮 event. but probably more money will come from there.

[bitter snow]

it's been pretty popular on my server from what I've seen 😄

a few people complaining about it, but most active players just getting stuck in

[abstract gate]

when I see server 128 against 163. where should it be about equally strong servers.

[bitter snow]

ours are fairly on par power wise I think, 159 has higher power 'top' players, but I get the impression we have stronger 'mid' levels if that makes sense?
But we're winning 2:1

But we have some really truly rabid raiders 😂

[autumn swift]

I think i stop raiding XD MINDCHANGER HAHAHAHAAHA

This PC game crashed show all planet its full every system

[brave crescent]

these player are not worth. you can complete sit out with under lv 20 system and shield. what is the problem 1 day not to mine

[bitter snow]

I'm glad there's been a shake up of how the game works

the daily "meh" of kill some reds, mine some stuff, rinse/repeat is/was getting dull

2 days out of thirty, a bit of chaos

[cedar cargo]

but you are a whale payer five... you said so easy jep with credit card....

[bitter snow]

I think that's fine 😂

[bitter snow]

ah yes, if we like it we must be whales

[cedar cargo]

nope he is on my server^^ he dont know what low lower play^^

[bitter snow]

Ops 39 player here, on a server full of 42+ (and 50+ proper whales), and it's just fun

[brave crescent]

lol i am a pay player yes but far away from a whale

[bitter snow]

go shoot some guys, get shot by some other guys

without any of the blinking politics and screenshotting that usually goes along with it

no recriminations, no looking back.. just fun

my baby t3 2m enterprise and potato officers stands no chance against the majority of my opponents... and it's just fun to change things up a bit

I would be very interested to know how many of the people complaining are on the "losing" server, vs complaining that they're on the winning server

... and the opposite of course,

our server is winning, which is nice, but the server v server reward is actually kinda negligible

and 250 places on the SLBs means that all you really have to do is turn up once to get something out of it

[cedar cargo]

nope ill mean some other things.. but ok, normal player cant mine, grind or do something else because all visitor shoot ALL down and if its mouse... and how you wanne defend vs a guy with 10 and more bigger? you cant,thats the problem of the event, who pays had fun all other play lego... p.s and our server wins, but all other had no game for 2 days now...

[bitter snow]

The SMS events need work

[bitter snow]

I've been moving in and out of safe shield space all day... move, play for 15-20 minutes, move back again

Though I love the use of "normal player" to define your preference

[cedar cargo]

send out a miner, 2 sec dead...

[bitter snow]

Like. wtf would you even think to mine today?

[cedar cargo]

you wanne make mission, comes into system ... dead...

[bitter snow]

I feel sorry for the guys in APAC who had the double whammy mining events

[cedar cargo]

wanne take part in event... token gone you had at start of event...

and now? 2 days you cant play the game

[bitter snow]

I feel a little sorry for the guys in US who had to do threat reduction

[echo dune]

F2P here and I enjoyed it too. That said, think we need to encourage people to try and mine and grind hostiles like a Risky Venture sms with rewards people will not pass. Added excitement for hunters and grinders/miners.

[bitter snow]

But EU have no place to whine

[bitter snow]

Agreed, there needs to be some better solo events that aren't leaderboards

Missions and dailies... just wait a couple hours and knock them out in the evening 😄

that's what I'm doing

[echo dune]

Surprised me some didnt wait … i said hello. Rude not to.

[bitter snow]

But the clutching at pearls "But I can't mine!!!!" like mining is the best thing in the world or something 😂

[echo dune]

But need more out there.

[marsh flame]

Really is not a whale event. Any base can be cracked if it’s not defended properly. And anyone can be raided. You don’t need to be a whale to raid.

In fact. This event makes no sense for whales. It’s a total loss for them. G5 vs g5 is expensive

[bitter snow]

Don't bring facts into this... if they can't complain about "whales" ruining their "fun" (mining 🤮), it spoils the narrative 😄

[marsh flame]

https://tenor.com/view/brian-hull-logic-argument-batman-gif-8160994

[bitter snow]

Especially as going after the whaley whale ships seems to be a really good way of building damage done on the XSLB 😄

[echo dune]

Agree the ops bracket was about right, maybe ops 42-45, 40-41 makes more sense than 40-45 but was ok.

[cedar cargo]

ok what can a normal player without token do this 2 days?

[rough frost]

It's probably why g5 spash op 30 something instead lol

[cedar cargo]

try to kill player 10 level higher... and..

[dark dome]

I had a lot of fun with the event as a 33 Ops player who only buys battlepass. It was a change from the norm and we worked together with alliances we normally fight with and almost won.

[marsh flame]

Why you don’t have a token. Is a different issue. And again. Not a whale one.

[bitter snow]

Defend event 1-2 times, for the same payout as 1-2 ticketed events.
Raid invading player stations that forget to shield

[dark dome]

I got the tokens for free from an event.

[marsh flame]

That’s an. I didn’t do the event one

[echo dune]

Yes it was a refreshing change. Much better than turf wars!

[cedar cargo]

mayn guys lost here token from start of event they was gone and no one knows why...

[echo dune]

This was what armadas should have been.

[bitter snow]

There was/is the issue that the IMS started after some had done the first domination prep event... and that is bad

[rough frost]

Also I m waiting for a f2p finding that even fun when they will have the 150 million trit bill per repair coming, while they don't damage said whales 🤓 only thing that event done is deplete everyone of resource. To sell more packs

[bitter snow]

But that doersn't make incursions bad

That just means Scopely need to get their timing right next time 😄

[dark dome]

I'm pretty close to f2p (only the battle pass) and I enjoyed it Minna

[bitter snow]

Sorry, do you not have 2-3x the tokens of your raw rss stash?
Talk about depleted? 😂

[echo dune]

Source the coins better. I just hope they continue to be f2p. Dont let scopely know we are enjoying this too much.

[bitter snow]

Thing is, it's the first time they ran it successfully, and there were teething issues with sourcing of conduits

[dark dome]

Plus, so many bases were cracked I left the incursion with more resources than I started with. Just park in a <19 system and shield when not pvping

[marsh flame]

I’m an ops 41. So. Not really a whale by any measure. Other non whales and I cracked a sleeping 54. Killed his corvus. And raided his trillions.

It was defended by northcuts and others. I fit my base for defence. And so not only will my server win (70% by those that are low 40s). I’m winning 2 of the slb. The only one im not winning is the one that has a race to hit dead bases. But idk

[bitter snow]

But the events are not dreadful (plenty room for improvement)

dry humping bases should not score, agreed

[echo dune]

I have a feeling the alliance you are in, population of servers, and whether you love pvp or detest it with all your might are factors. The concept is spot on, and bar a five minute wait to initially join other server … I had most fun since i cannot reme,ber before the TNG arcs.

[bitter snow]

if you get shot by a whale somewhere, it should still count for the SMS, agreed

[cedar cargo]

you said it all, you are the big guys and had much fun.. right but the normal under 40 player is screwed only, put shield and wait...

[marsh flame]

Totally true. They should have absolutely give free tokens to them. (To everyone really. Stupid way to exclude someone)

[cedar cargo]

its an event for the big ones only

[bitter snow]

What ops are you?

[cedar cargo]

under 40 as ill said

[bitter snow]

That's descriptive

[cedar cargo]

and ill cant do nothing whole of the event

[dark dome]

I'm Ops 33

[bitter snow]

39 or 3?

[cedar cargo]

shield on ships in and wait

and you see 42.43.oh 44 and thing ok deff for what?

[bitter snow]

I'm 39, it's fine, I've seen 34s and such in the same system doing just fine

[cedar cargo]

the stupid guy who sleep and had no shield on are screwed after it but it, called shield or share^^ thats right but still not playable if onle

[bitter snow]

So sorry "It's terrible for under 40s" doesn't wash without a bit more explanation 😂

[bitter snow]

So, about normal then? Sleep without a shield and you get emptied...

[cedar cargo]

ill had no problem with shield men

[marsh flame]

Quite a lot found territory to not be the safe place they remember

[bitter snow]

Just this time with different (easily remembereable!) shield rules

[cedar cargo]

but you cant do nothing for 2 days...

[bitter snow]

yep, that was very funny 😄

[bitter snow]

one day

last I checked, 24 hours is a single day

[cedar cargo]

if you are not the big one and this are only 3%-5 on each server

and how long all goes?

ill think was 2 days right?

[marsh flame]

1 day. But it runs again

[bitter snow]

two days, split over the duration of a whole month

CALAMITY AND WOE

[cedar cargo]

yeah.. 2 days you cant play...

[echo dune]

Do your daily’s morn/aft first day, evening second day. Or … live dangerously be alive before they kill you!

[bitter snow]

Be happy to see the farmville players quit tbh 😄

[cedar cargo]

its only für the whales big guys whatever thats 5% and the other 95 % shield or get raided what this for a game? they want that the other leave who dont pay so much only

then merge and done

[bitter snow]

more interesting without the bleating

[echo dune]

But i get the pvp ops bracket generally so Ladykiller has a point on that perhaps. Been a long term gripe.

[bitter snow]

I'm in the bottom ~10% of the server I'd reckon, and it's fun

[marsh flame]

But your point doesn’t stand. Yet. This first run. Everyone’s shield discipline was rubbish. So. Raids all over. You just had to go out there and do it. Defend your base properly and you’re a menace to the big players. They don’t want to spend 100 bil to save 10.

[marsh flame]

The exact reverse happened on my server. It was a 54 that got raided for the most. And by medium players

[bitter snow]

But given you're not telling us what ops you are, I can only think you're whinging for the sake of it, as there's no constructive complaints coming out of you so far 😄

[cedar cargo]

forget its guys... make no sense here the big oines said its great and scope done.... not more to say to this event...

[rough frost]

You are an op 41 and fit your base on defense against northcut? Show us your screenshot of winning a defence against a 50+, it's very interesting

[bitter snow]

am not big

[marsh flame]

I didn’t win against that nc

[bitter snow]

Don't have to win if you take a big enough bite out of it each time 😄

make them rethink hitting you

[marsh flame]

And it’s a big nc

[bitter snow]

https://tenor.com/view/all-of-this-pointing-up-there-see-this-gif-14720503

[rough frost]

So you have fun because your server is not full of 50+ hitting everyone 🤔 Hum interesting

[echo dune]

I will show you mine in a mo against a pilum. Will edit to hide name.

[marsh flame]

That nc. Won me an event. For an officer I care 0 about. But still

[bitter snow]

ours all seemed to be hitting eachother and/or struggling for PVP when they weren't cracking bases

[rough frost]

Because if your event were like yours, a 41 wouldn't had last 15 min

No balance no fun. And there nothing balanced in that game

[brave chasm]

I’m all for the idea of the event but for us it was like turning up for a kick about in the local park and Real Madrid rocked up

[bitter snow]

There's no balance in this game full stop 😂

[marsh flame]

It was full of 50+ hitting everyone. My top ship is an augur. Nearly all of those g4+ ships smashed me to bits.

[bitter snow]

It's hard to tell for sure, but from what others have been saying on my II. 159 has more 50+ players than 162 does... and we're still winning 2:1 against the "stronger" server

[marsh flame]

I ended up talking to the guy and trying out what my base can take

[bitter snow]

nice!

That's the other thing I'd be curious about on experiences... I've enjoyed actually talking to people?

[echo dune]

Brill … never give up! Never surrender!

[bitter snow]

How many of the negatives have had zero (or only negative) interactions?

[marsh flame]

Was some smacktalk. Especially after raids. But. Water off a ducks back

[bitter snow]

I've been offering my services as sacrificial lamb to the other side to get the SMS done for people 😄

[brave chasm]

We had the other server come on our discord and basically call us pussies for refusing to throw our ships at them

[bitter snow]

See... I'm not on my server discord, because they're a bunch of donkey fedoras

So if that's something that happened to us, I'm unawares 😄

[brave chasm]

Similar chatter in the GC. Tbh they are as frustrated as we are with the match up

[echo dune]

Galaxy chat … if you enjoy the “banter” then i suppose that was good too.

[marsh flame]

The sms was stupid. It’s much better than previous pvp. But also stupid that. For certain ops. You’re in a bracket with vastly different ships. (Mine had big kelvins etc). And I’m not there yet. My best way of gaining points. Was dying to the kelvins with a disco etc

[bitter snow]

yeah, part of me wished I'd been able to get to 40 pre-event so I could finish faster 😄

[echo dune]

I fed them my disco as i tried to pvp my ent with other g3 epics

[marsh flame]

They need to measure brackets more along the lines of ship unlocks. And not. Arbitrary decimal.

[bitter snow]

But honestly the worst thing was (hasn't happened to me) people bringign vastly overpowered ships to the lower pvp systems and smashing everything

[marsh flame]

40 in with the t7 kelvins. 39 in just augurs.

[bitter snow]

Because that got points for nobody except for SLB and server contest... but in such small numbers that it was a pointless move

[echo dune]

Wonder if its a numbers issue or to get people to rush ops to get g4 ships

[marsh flame]

Yeah. We had Pilums and korinars. There too. And northcuts. Etc. And those don’t score for us

Should have all the bigger ships added to loss table. So if happens. You still get points. But they don’t.

So that corvus slides in. Kills your ent. You get points rather than nothing

[echo dune]

I hope Eco reads all this

After the salt we have had all year this was some fresh water.

[bitter snow]

yeah, I know why they remove ships from the bracket scoring as you go up, but they shouldn't be gone lower down really

They want to incentivise people sticking in their lane, but they shouldn't do it by penalising the people who are sticking to their own system(s)

[marsh flame]

Yeah. Lower ships removed from higher ops. The problem is people shooting down. Not up.

Another problem is if you’re the only 54+ etc. You literally have nobody to play with. So you can only sit and sulk in those systems

[worldly stratus]

@pseudo rune Please convince whoever is in charge of the events between arcs to run something like COW or apex along with incursions. DJ was talking yesterday about the shelf life for the incursion event and if you run two events at the same time people will need to be out for the other event which will force more participation in this and have more targets for longer. A mining event would be great too.

[marsh flame]

Take a look at the expcomps that were available

I fully see this happening. Swarm. Armadas etc. Is already there

And incursion only.

[worldly stratus]

The best thing they could do is break you guys into your own brackets and send you to a dead server from every server or put you all into a very low pop server

[marsh flame]

I’m not one of them. But. I’ve seen the complaining.

[marsh flame]

But. That’s not a good idea. Quite a lot of those players are invested in their group. Getting to a point that you get taken away from them. Isn’t going to be popular.

[worldly stratus]

Yeah. That was my suggestion to DJ. But honestly I have no sympathy for 50+. The new content is super expensive and people are rushing through it. It’s like someone walking on burning coals and then complaining that their feet are burning.

[marsh flame]

Half the idea of these incursions is to give you new people to scrap with. Outside of any server politics etc

[marsh flame]

Some sympathy. Is that. Despite the game design fully allowing them to do that. The events come and needlessly exclude them

Both of those could be avoided. It’s a decision to not

If they wanted to limit ops. They can already do they. Ascension keys.

If they don’t want someone excluded. The events have to not exclude them ( this happens for those that decide to stay low ops too)

[worldly stratus]

I love incursion and I’d say all that could participate from our server felt the same. It has really changed how to look at the game and it allows for learning lessons from others on a larger scale. I hope they do a tournament bracket style with incursion. Instead of server age look at the points every one scores in the two events and pick a “winner” to face off against another server that scored around the same in their events

[marsh flame]

What I would like. Is for the sever vs sever page (the who is winning). Have some kind of leaderboard for individuals or alliances.

[worldly stratus]

Yeah rewards blow for them but at 51 if the rewards aren’t there and it’s too difficult to get anything for your time and effort why move to 52?

[worldly stratus]

Yes that would be amazing

[marsh flame]

So. The servers can see who is making the difference. It’s too impersonal and easy to not care about as you’re not directly connected to it

Doesn’t have to give a prize. Or anything. Just information

[worldly stratus]

I do hope they open up the kills for every system in later runs. Make the sms easier to complete. I didn’t even try bc no one was wanting to fight after 8 hours of us pounding them

[brave chasm]

I wonder why…

[marsh flame]

The payout was also not with the effort.

[bitter snow]

That could make for a cool month for eu/us... Apac? 2 days tops 😅

[uneven dove]

The SMS was rubbish , the raiding was fun

[bitter snow]

SMS was too dependant on the bracket you were in and the number of people on the other side in the same bracket sadly

[steady plume]

Just be glad you all had a chance to compete. We didn't even have anything as 126. Just the normal events.

[bitter snow]

yeah, that'll be someone else's lot next time

shame they didn't work that one out ahead of a feature that required paired servers... but I guess that's hard to plan ahead appropriately 😄

[storm creek]

Yaaaaaay. We‘re having so much fuuuun. 🥴
What a crapfest.

[dusky elk]

@junior dome how is that possible ? we have at the scoring before the evend end less points then last night:

[winged tulip]

error: integer overflow? 😛

[dusky elk]

scoring from last night:

i think at our scoring is a 0 missing: 15.768.850.000.000 vs. 1.613.798.000.000

[bitter snow]

At least one of the 0s... at the end of the number there is (was) a "PTS" at the end of it... so I assume the digits have been pushed off/wrapped round to the next line in the viewport and are hiding

[dusky elk]

i think so too: because i have almost enough points at my raiding SLB 🤣

[wind trout]

my issue with the Cipher 3 event isn't fixed. though i've contacted support and the ticket is open. I really hope that at least the rewards from the event are given to me. 2 days to fix an issue that others got fixed...

@pseudo rune

thank you Scopely

[modest vine]

event without interest

[gusty pulsar]

lol kids

[vital peak]

there also events missing because 15 points for a pvp win and for max rewards you have to reach 96k points is a little bit stupid or only for guys who can play 24/7

[silver pike]

That’s an alliance milestone event it’s very possible

We finished it this morning around 11 hours ago

[vital peak]

how many are you in your alliance?

[silver pike]

68

65 can participate

[vital peak]

we are 15 who can participate but the half of them have no token to change server

[silver pike]

That event is catered to an alliance of like 30-50 at least unless you got a small group of players that can kill a lot

[bitter snow]

or you were willing to hump bases for a few hours each 😄

[silver pike]

You could still keep killing in your home system. The scoring was irrespective of which server you were in

[vital peak]

15 points per win

[silver pike]

That too

[urban crown]

GG Server 134 😄 was a great fight

[vital peak]

i know that it is possible if i had vaccation but if you had to work like the majority of our members this event is nearly impossibl but ok it was only some sort of thinking

[uneven dove]

8.908.547.000.000 vs 4.171.251.000.000 for 131 vs 140

[meager spindle]

Well yea it’s pretty damn confusing…

[simple prairie]

Typical scopely! Please fix. Without me having to write to support. Also, there are extreme delays involved again.

[bitter snow]

... what's wrong with it?

I know that they say a picture paints a thousand words... but context is still required

[mental tulip]

The durations are different because there will be two single-day SMS events over the course of the two-day ALB.

[bitter snow]

Or it might just be a 2day ALB 🤷‍♂️

[mental tulip]

True.

[halcyon trail]

Battleship kills of explorers aren't registering at all, it's been at least 20 minutes and nothing.

[simple prairie]

Because no points were counted for the Ems. For the ABL they do. But the conditions are the same. At least in the German description

[bitter snow]

The one on the right is an alliance event... maybe it wasn't you scoring?

I did research and building and both counted for me

They're also not in the event scoring boxes... so I think that's intentional

[halcyon goblet]

In german it is

[bitter snow]

ah, not in the UK one

[worthy plaza]

Does the incursion build speed exocomps buff stack with the normal exocomps build speed

[wintry cypress]

Original is different to every translation for some reason

[scenic kernel]

it should

[simple prairie]

No, I saw it yes above in the pull down when I had leveled an offi.

[halcyon trail]

Wow! Restarted the game and now there are NO events at all.

[worthy plaza]

Ok thx

[silver pike]

Good to know 👍🏻

[silver pike]

The English version is the only one that states no officer xp or ship xp scoring

Yep looks like it 👍🏻

[halcyon goblet]

Same for me

[wise spire]

Hellspawny doesn't work for us neither

Daily event officer EP/XP

Is this on EU servers only?

[tawdry minnow]

@pseudo rune , incursion was great. But the 6 hours events need to be dropped , mist 2 because of sleep and work 😜 … since I need sleep and also a job the 6 hour events have to go 😂

[wise spire]

Glad that rubbish is over

And a separation, players who don't want to join the event for whatever reason still were affected

[wise spire]

The six hour system clearly gives the server attacking first a clear advantage. Which even gets worse if that one is nominally stronger

@pseudo rune problems with points in the gaining power event

[grand mantle]

Great again... Power event counts for nothing...

[wintry cypress]

What problems are you referring to?

[wise spire]

See above hellspawny screenshot, officer and ship XP are not working

Or simply delayed?

[wintry cypress]

Translation issue. They are not part of the scoring.
And as far as I know, this has already been escalated 🙂

[brave chasm]

Doesn’t say that counts in English

[grand mantle]

Research also brought nothing

[wise spire]

Well, if I need to look up the English version every time...😆

[wintry cypress]

Trust me, it's better in english anyway 😜

[wintry cypress]

Can you check on the event again in a few minutes to see if scoring is simply delayed? 🙂

[wise spire]

But I should be used to it, translation into German very limited let's say

[wintry cypress]

I know, I stopped using german game for that exact reason 🤣

[grand mantle]

OK. I already made a restart after 5 minutes...

[wise spire]

So deffoe no xp? Will check and come back about research 👍

[wintry cypress]

Yup, xp definitely does NOT count!

[hearty island]

<@&509691417686442004> Can I please have the player brackets for the Infinite I... events?

[silver pike]

👀

[hearty island]

I feel so much love for you right now, I cant describe it in words

[silver pike]

👀

[wise spire]

Research works fine in my alliance, from what I heard so far, tried myself, all good
Thank you 👍

[hearty island]

How did you guys filter the events on stfc.space to get that list?

[wise spire]

Does research work for you now?

[hearty island]

by date is it

[wintry cypress]

ye, chose 20th and entered "defense" in text filter

[hearty island]

doesnt make sense

[vernal skiff]

Xp officer and xp ship doesnt work too nice scopely same problem since a while here ...

[hearty island]

I want the XSLBs

[grand mantle]

No :/

[silver pike]

The translated versions have the wrong scoring cards there is no ship xp or officer xp in the actual scoring

[wintry cypress]

oh, one sec

[wintry cypress]

Click on one of the xslbs, you can choose brackets in there

[silver pike]

Depending on the server age etc they got a variation of that event probably

Same

[vernal skiff]

So I spent xp officer and xp ship for nothing, it was only for closed this event quickly.
In some countries, when the content does not correspond to the product, a commercial gesture is made... except at Scoplely of course

[silver pike]

As far as I know, Eco hasn’t been on yet so no one would know about the issue yet and to get it fixed. Although I’m aware Ripper has notified the Devs so they might be making a fix to it rn

[vernal skiff]

I would have spent it at another time if I had known. It's throwing money away in this case 😉

[hearty island]

The Bracket information on Stfc.space appears wrong

[wintry cypress]

It is correct tho

[hearty island]

A player lvl 42 shared: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/992122174599078030/999718734908366928/IMG_4994.png

A player 44 shared: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/999684204386328689/999712374980345876/Screen_Shot_2022-07-21_at_9.19.14_AM.png

[mental tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/pee-pants-ralph-simpsons-gif-5381414

[wintry cypress]

There are multiple brackets for the same level afaik

[hearty island]

What? Please explain

[wintry cypress]

There can be multiple, different SLBS for the same bracket

[hearty island]

I heard you, but dont understand it - the population is somehow divided within a bracket?

[wintry cypress]

yes

[hearty island]

Based on what criteria?

[wintry cypress]

The reasons are unknown, but we can guess

[wintry cypress]

I guess just random

[odd orchid]

Is the "SNW Ortegas" bonus points working for anyone? I'm just getting the base points for that SMS.

[brazen pewter]

Sooo ... will there be a upgrade the subspace relay event in the future? 😇

[wintry cypress]

The banner should pop up twice for each enemy, giving the same amount of points in both banners

Thus resulting in double points

[odd orchid]

Oh, nevermind, I'm destroying battleships with explorers. I can't read.

[wintry cypress]

Shit happens 🙂

[abstract gate]

Why does scopely hate us? Recruit rares via all 3 ship types is a sign of contempt

[mental tulip]

I have them all? 🤷‍♂️

[silver pike]

Same

[mental tulip]

Contempt is the sourcing for Una and Barkley.

[silver pike]

It’s good to keep 1 of each class

[mental tulip]

Torture is the sourcing for Jaylah.

[abstract gate]

That's true too because Barclay and una are not the greatest

[silver pike]

No!! Torture is the 2 Borg miners 11/11 and 4/11

[mental tulip]

Good point.

[silver pike]

Barclay is pretty good

[mental tulip]

Especially below where he belongs.

[abstract gate]

I've got a stella that's it🤣

Man for 30% protected they be asking 400 dolla that's wild

[silver pike]

Yeah. I’m disappointed his sourcing is so weak for how average he is

[wintry cypress]

NB already sent me to naughty step 😬

[hearty island]

For raids the brackets are different - thats why

[silver pike]

Hold on.

CR naughty corner again 👆

[distant dawn]

My banner for Ortegas Meta showed I gained -10 points?!
So for me the SMS did not score anything:

It seems there is something wrong again

Relogging from pc to mobile phone fixed it fortunately

[odd orchid]

Mine was positive

[balmy verge]

Have there been reports of servers having their Power stats still combined w/ Server competed w/ in Incursions?

Looking to not duplicate known issue.

[silver pike]

Yep there’s been a few. I think a vast majority if not all servers are affected

[hearty island]

I believe i had seen that another infinite prep event is coming. In game information disappeared and #💫-event-information does not cover it. Can i see the details somewhere?

[drifting marsh]

You're green again.

[wintry cypress]

I can see that 👀

[swift shale]

Here's the main issue I see with Incursions:
Those who enjoyed it are the ones who are most likely in the top 10 Alliances on their server and spent money for the tokens.

Those who are not in above group, most likely did not have an enjoyable experience from Incursions due to several different issues.

First of which is poor population control in pvp tiers. No one even bothered in our 25 ‐ 31 bracket. Can't earn points for the 4 shifts of rewards on pvp in designated systems.

Why bother with tokens if you can't do half the events? The SMS were virtually impossible, for no one showed in either system on either server.

The literature was slightly misleading in the coming weeks for this Event. Most of us were under the impression of being able to complete standard daily goals without issues. This was not so, as any damage rewarded points, in any system for any ship.

It's fantastic that a good portion of servers enjoyed this, but it seemed only to reward a limited group.
Grinders be damned.

I'm all for this to happen again, but rethink the damage anywhere portion. Players don't need their daily routine time cut by 50٪. Which is what happened whenever we were on Defense.

Stop making events that limit the daily players. It is very important to some to maintain a "streak" per se. Some take immense pride in not missing Daily Goals for over a year, with every single SMS completed in same time period, AND placing in the top 10 consistently for over 2 years without fail...

I tried to voice my concerns for those of us in the same bracket to hear from someone else too. But all I got was the same generic beatdown by several obvious higher level p2ps on here.

"You're making excuses. This event rocks! You suck." And all that vitriol...

Why is it that 31 and below seem to get no respect? Weren't these other players there too? I ask these players:
Have you had 1+ year streak of Daily Goals completed?
Complete every SMS without fail in the same year?
Placed consistently in the Top 10 of every SLBs and XSLBs in 2 years?
And then have an Event that literally locks you out of all your SMS because there is an extremely limited active participation population in said bracket.

Add on top of that, you want to raid, but can only do it when we are on defense (because no tokens) So you try to get many points which is to use the surveys for most cargo space or most importantly the Amalgam. However, these ships are sniped in basically all systems because players of all brackets are annihilating each other. Sure we have 31 - 25 bracket, but 41s are taking me out! I get very limited points even still because of the surveys not being powerful. My Inbox read 38 and higher for every matchup. That's not winning. After being destroyed 20 straight times and not even registering first tier of any Event. I gave up.

Actually I gave up when I asked for assistance on my server and the only response was a bitter ex teammate with a personal issue. There was basically no help. No one tried to suggest anything. Don't you need all the points you can get? Why shut me out? Did they already know it was basically useless for a 31 to try Incursions with the matchup we had? Why not tell me?

I saw more division between the f2p and p2p.

Isn't this event supposed promote teamwork on the Servers?  It seems to seperate the players first, and then solidify the already tight brotherhood of the "uppers". (It did help squash some "vendettas")

It was a great success in making that secluded population happy, but we would like to dip in the same pool, without having to pay extra and only if we meet a height requirement (Ops lvl). But you made the others miss a day and basically could only watch everyone else swim from this side of the fence. I don't think Scopely understands the impact this had on us.

There's my 2 cents... I would like to think my 2 cents is worth the same as the next player. I may not be in your bracket, or your brotherhood but that doesn't make me any less of a player than you when you were a 31 Ops.

Signed,
A future 41 Ops player.

[abstract gate]

There was a 32 ops who blew up my sally . I’m ops 39

Well I was running half arsed crew and half dead hull but he was running defensive crewing

Tos McCoy (c), tos kirk, tos Spock

Many did what you did .. sent all the ships for blew up and gain points sadly

[mental tulip]

I had many an Envoy blown up by a Kelvin. Guess who got more points? 😄

When I was a lower level, I'd just look for gaps/loopholes in the scoring and exploit the heck out of 'em. Mining conlat at level 32 counts for how much? Hey, North Star and Arrock, let's go! Can't refine it, but I don't care. I want first place...

And so on.

[swift shale]

The first five ships I had taken out during our defense were from a 38, he was in wrong systems. 🤦‍♂️

[verbal locust]

For the APAC guys. For the second incursion were you pitted against the same server? Going forward, are we going to draw new opponent servers?

[swift shale]

Rumor has it that it will be same server, but you can't quote me on that.

[verbal locust]

It would not surprise me. Kinda lazy on their part.

[ornate geyser]

If you post it, we can quote it! 😂

[swift shale]

Which sucks if it is... just means another Incursion I can't participate in.

[verbal locust]

means there will be alt spies being planted to keep up with plans and targeting. Takes about a week these days to get to warp 40 in any case

[swift shale]

You're right. And that's just create more even more seperation between f2p and p2p with each instance.

[muted prairie]

Auto Killing Suliban Hunters even Explorers does not count as hostiles for pts!!

[silver pike]

Auto killing never does

[muted prairie]

It works in other events like BP

It’s not working for Uhura...

[swift shale]

They should have made NEW seperate systems that you wait in queue for in Incursions. Each system pvp bracketed. The tokens buy your spot to Defend/Offend.

[silver pike]

Its not supposed to work. It was removed a long time ago

[swift shale]

Would be better if they take a page outta of Star Wars Commander. Random Matchups across, 20 players picked for your shift. Make the tokens more accessible, Monthly chest?

[balmy verge]

I ran across statement in #💫-event-information that there not be an other event in July.

[scarlet gyro]

as far as the general event goes it was enjoyable. for some at least. you had to plan dailies to be complete before the event starts and the battlepass events .. well if they make incursions their own thing in between battle passes maybe more ppl would participate as this time tends to be a downtime anyway or at least they dont lose much if they just shield for 24 hours

one thing to add. they matched up servers on whatever metrics they had but participation on some servers were underwhelming at best leaving the battle a one-sided slaughter. nothing they can do before the event starts i might add as some server tend to be more pve focused and others more pvp.. still hope they pair servers on the end results for the next time to make battles more of a close one rather then one-sided

[hearty island]

23,24

@pseudo rune Can we rely on that incursion events will be announced days in advance also in the future?

[lilac girder]

Biggest winners should be paired with each other. Maybe the power is less important than how focussed the server is on PvP activity.

[placid moss]

I’d recommend a bracket system where winners are paired with winners and losers with losers….eventually everyone finds their own level both up and down. Commonly done in kids sports.

[dire quail]

Power is not the greatest metric, our server went against a server with numerous lvl 55 ships, we have 2 level 50... we won.... we had a whole server working together to mitigate and outmanuovre, took days of planning and real breaking down of l8bg held rivalry, but was great experience

[abstract gate]

A bit limited with 8 servers

[scenic kernel]

anyone knows if the second run of incursion event is still scheduled for next week?

[scarlet gyro]

true power ist not the best metric to use but activity is and scopley has a tool to measure pvp activity with specific leaderboards catered to these stats. so they should match servers more focues on these stats. also i hope they dont just match the same servers over and over again in the hope something will change ..

[scarlet gyro]

this was the old calender and they had to reshuffle it. i dont think we will see a 2nd iteration in this battlepass

[abstract gate]

PvP had no influence on our incursion, was all about raiding

[balmy verge]

The calendar is just BattlePass. The second Incursion event fell outside the BP balendar. Based on original 2 week cycle it would have fallen on 25-27.

[hearty island]

I would have guessed that as well. I just dont want to be surprised. Incursions pretty much reverse rules, and that needs to be prepped

[verbal locust]

Having one of our top players be called away from some real life stuff and getting taken for a few Trillion is really what costed us. However, we still had a pretty good time.

[abstract gate]

Same, L59 3B base cracked, couldn't defend and 2T of rss taken, unrecoverable

[verbal locust]

They will need to fix the couple of scoring exploits that were discovered. Well hopefully or all anyone will do is pound empty bases for damage and discoing small ships to score.

[scarlet gyro]

i know its about raiding but usually people who are active in pvp are active in raiding as well. and then again, there are raid leaderboards. so they could compare servers based on these statistics for better matching

[fierce pike]

2 points !!! 1st.. why are the invading servers alliances and players still on our servers IE: top 100 players & Alliances ?? This is mis-information for new players ! 2nd.. why can you not give the invaders a choice to either go up a system if they have powerful players or pussy out and invade a system which is a month or so behind and they know it will be an easy win ??? You really don't think things through do you.. as long as it puts money in your pocket.. screw the clients.. who by the way pay your wages !!! 😡

[scarlet gyro]

a base attack should only give points if you do real dmg. so let the base regain some health or otherwise it shouldnt give you points

[verbal locust]

SHOULDNT

[scarlet gyro]

yeah you are right .. but i give them some slack. 1st time for such a large scale event

[verbal locust]

I do not disagree. problems were to be expected.

[abstract gate]

All in all, good concept but needs work

[scarlet gyro]

as long as they are not pumping out incursion events every week and make it something special i'm alright with this.

[verbal locust]

Yeah. well hopefully they will take suggestions on improvements and tweak this. However, for Me on US-012, it went fairly smooth. Some lag, scoring lag. One of our servers guys got caught up for half of the event transferring home. he was finally $hat out when the incursion ended

[abstract gate]

Just run it outside of BP

[scarlet gyro]

thats somethign a lot of ppl suggest. to run it in between a bp.

[verbal locust]

One positive thing I will say... I liked the shield dynamics. I set a 24 hours shield. I would port and raid... then pop south, shields automatically back up

[fierce pike]

Most professional companies have test servers.. where they have beta testers who usually play the main game and iron out the bugs before releasing them to the main servers ! The amount of money Scopely charges (£89) for the packages which are mainly offered is more than a weeks rent for the average person !! Therefore why isn't the quality of the game play in line with this extortionate amount being charged ? Also why is Latinum not being offered in separate packages considering it's the main currency in the game.. most other games have this facility.. and offer affordable amounts !!! On a positive note I know how much work & time is involved in a good game like this.. but keep it good & affordable.. thats the key 😉

[verbal locust]

I wonder about the regression testing on AI servers also. I have no idea, but I am not in their facility. However, I think this particular horse is long dead.
I do see more strides being made to stabilize the game, client updates are coming more frequently and I see more live updates being done to address issues.
I suspect that the maintenance intervals we experienced prior to this arc was a retooling of their databases. The lag afterwards was those new tables populating.
However all speculation on my part.

[weak gust]

APAC Servers are the Beta Testers

[fierce pike]

So why all the bugs and issues still.. ???

[tulip raptor]

Maybe a stupid question but I’m asking anyway, do we know for sure which dates the next incursion events are scheduled?

[weak gust]

Scopley.

[hearty island]

Is this Ortega Battleship --> Explorer thing limited to the arc? (Want to know whether I can scrap my battleship after the arc or not)

[swift lotus]

Anyone know if there will be a research event later ?

I was going to research for the display of dominance event but I didn’t want to waste the research

[haughty tapir]

@pseudo rune this is the question, is the Incursion event with the circled dates still running ? Inquiring minds want to know lol😆
This was the original news release, but those dates disappeared after the aborted event. Now the whole thing is gone, so we're wondering if we need to plan ahead for it.

[abstract gate]

Well done, 180 👍 Congrats. 👍 :🖖

[icy sedge]

Doing this event once a month will already be draining if it happens during a work day and during the night (srsly you want us to loose sleep over an event??); what's wrong with just weekends? :\

[leaden spoke]

My texgtcant be send because thd owner of community does not want it?

I wrote that at germany at beginn of event was other text than now

Ship xp and office should count

But they just changed text

To me this is behave of a liar

💩 💩 💩

I expect nothing from scopley. No need to take a break from counting money

Liars

[wintry cypress]

The translation was simply wrong and they corrected it

XP was never meant to score

[leaden spoke]

Than they should not write it and return invested xp / latinum

Just change text? Realy? Behave of liars

[wintry cypress]

Mistakes do happen and not every mistake has to be compensated. Especially smaller ones like translation mistakes

[leaden spoke]

But the mistske has consequences to me and other players

Little reason... but big result

[wintry cypress]

So does every other mistake, how small it may be.

[silver pike]

Regardless your officers grew which still improves your gameplay. Don’t see the argument for comp chest here sorry

[leaden spoke]

I dont want comp chest. I want my ship xp and officers stuff returned. There is abl and i spent big

Scopley make mistake so scopley has to heal it. Basta

[wintry cypress]

You can try sending customer service a message. I don't think they will return anything though, especially as they don't have to.

Here, nobody can do anything about that

[ornate geyser]

Always always always do a small spend first to see if it actually scores. Should it be that way? No. But it is that way….

[wintry cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-the-mandalorian-mando-this-is-the-way-armor-gif-17546902

[leaden spoke]

I wrote to support... but i can write with monkeys for better results

At beginn of event are rules. I follow these rules. Suddenly rules change and scopley should not return anything? Well....

[abstract spire]

I'm sorry u can't be serious when your texting comes out like that

[icy sedge]

People can be from other countries, don't judge on their English.

[wintry cypress]

The rules weren't changed. XP was never meant to score.

The stated scoring mechanic was wrong and is now corrected

They corrected a mistake

[abstract gate]

Seriously, some folk here will whine as long as they have a hole in their arse

[wintry cypress]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[leaden spoke]

But the write at german that it count 👍

I cant read scopley thoughts. But i can read the text at event. And if i do what is asked i dont accept if they say: hey... a mistake...

They corrected the mistake at text... but not the xp and officer stuff i used.

[abstract gate]

Before I go out does ortegas need to be in a particular slot left or right like last time?

[leaden spoke]

I had it at right side... worked

[abstract gate]

Thanks 🤣

[leaden spoke]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/509686204975808512/999717796118286476/SNAG-0000_21.07.202218.39.16.png

So not trust this message 39 minutes after eveng started?

[wide girder]

This, this rings a bell scopely 👀

[bronze hull]

👀 Am I reading that right - the defense event is 51-59 while the offense is 51-60? So level 60 players only got two 6 hr SMS events rather than 4?

[fierce cosmos]

Last message from Eco was 7/19... last from Old Man was 7/18.

I thought we were working on improving communication...

[distant ravine]

Did they do 1 event from midnight to 5am in every time zone or just Europe?

[iron star]

Worked on left too

[timber wind]

@wide girder still better than dopely if you've actually played it

[winged sail]

Was wondering this as well. Did you try it?

[main spindle]

@fresh peak hey what happened to the refinery improvements that they said would be released sometime this month

[barren moss]

So the actual scheduled incursion for next week still on?

[silver pike]

We don’t know yet. Once we know we will pass the information on 😊

[barren moss]

Thanks. And 🙏 make it happen.

[lapis harbor]

Still can’t get into game

[plain flint]

Log in web page scopely use player id

Might get help there

[worthy plaza]

Seems like it did. When my exocomps wore off, the times got a bit longer, I guess since it's base the 75% build increase only ended up around 15-20% actual change

[drifting marsh]

@pseudo rune has there been any word on those of us whose servers were left out this time? Rumor going around 43 and 192 is that we will be left out again next time because things will use the same matchups with the attack/defense cycle reversed. This would put us really far behind.

[shrewd light]

I know we won our incursion event against 163 but this is how imbalanced the match up was. We are currently the top alliance in power on server 128. Scopley need to investigate and sort out the match making. For server 163 is was highly unfair as we are poor res wise compared to them so it was way easier for us to score. They did a great job at stopping us but we bounced from base to base working as a server together. It felt like a game of hide and raid 😅

[leaden spoke]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/509686204975808512/999717796118286476/SNAG-0000_21.07.202218.39.16.png
When will scopley return the ship-xp and officer investments that are done because of this fakse anouncement?

[silver pike]

Make a ticket see what they say
#👽-how-to-contact-support

[next lion]

Is it me or are the events getting a bit silly. 1.05M to max tier. At 20 points per build/platform i only need to upgrade 10-12 platforms and defense stations (about 5000 power/100K points each). And I only need to do that 3-4 times per month....if I have a new research I can start maybe I get lucky and get 500K points for that first level to help out.

[wintry tundra]

Pick your spots to engage in those events. I will ignore that run. Because I have to use more lat to complete it than I get out of it. If the defense turrets would score the old way np. But for whatever reason scopely just nerfed them in events rather than rebalance the scorings. But you need time for that and my guess is they don’t have any so that was the easiest solution. Still bad because if you don’t have any lvl 1 research available you spend a fortune getting to the last milestone.

[ripe jungle]

I actually have a few lvl 1 researches (the faction repair speed ones which give 78k power 🤦‍♂️) but I’m still going to skip. The lat is like two days of refinery pulls for me.

[cunning radish]

It was very easy for me to do …

[opaque stratus]

Incursion was great fun, any idea when we get the next incursion? @pseudo rune

[somber cedar]

Indeed, I have to say, the event was really good fun, it can't be too often ( otherwise it will tire people out like territory) but every once in a while is great!

[silver pike]

There was one originally scheduled for next week but it’s not known if this will be moved due to the delay on the first run. Generally incursions will be once a month unless they change for bigger breaks in between

[sweet mantle]

Once a month sounds great - incursion event was awesome!

[wintry cypress]

Afaik, it's supposed to be twice a month., Even better? 😁

[stone ivy]

Yeah, any idea when the next Incursion is. Is it once or twice a month?

[silver pike]

Wasn’t that only this month though?

🤔

[wintry cypress]

From what I remember, it was for every month 👀

[silver pike]

There is 1 scheduled for next week but that might also be delayed 🤷‍♂️

[ripe jungle]

Where is the schedule? It’s gone from ign

Actually was supposed to be this week I think as originally scheduled

[stone ivy]

who knows when the next incursion is...! ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silver pike]

That was the original

[silver pike]

Once we confirm the date we will let you know 😊

[ripe jungle]

Ah only prep was this week

[sharp bolt]

What ever happened with the class action lawsuit?

[stone ivy]

So? Based on the 2 week cadence, we should expect an Incursion on ||25-27 July||

[silver pike]

I think the plan was to divide the incursions again between 25-27th

[lament swift]

I actually had a lot of fun with Incursions, and it went a lot smoother than expected. I got cheated out of 1st place by someone using a bot or an external program though which took the shine off it a little.

[errant cave]

you don´t have to, most ressources have been taken away. the players need to recover :p

[silver pike]

I don’t know 😉 I need to recover my resources too

[placid moss]

@silver pike I know you are just the messenger but someone at Scopely needs to make the call in the next 6 hrs and effectively communicate if there is going to be another incursion the 25-27.

[stone ivy]

I hope there is why is scopely always so secretive ugh

[silver pike]

It was on the original schedule so assume there is one since that’s the best preparation I’ve asked to confirm if there is 1

[cobalt grove]

I really loved the incursion event.. but once a month would he enough.. maybe once every 3 weeks

[valid thunder]

About the Infinite Invasions passed yesterday for EU Servers, I'd like ti report the fact that players that were off line for more than a month had their base raided...

[opaque stratus]

How come they weren’t raided in one month time?

Something is horribly wrong with your server to let them keep all there rss if you ask me

[valid thunder]

Points were not given only basing on the amount of RSS taken

[opaque stratus]

Then whats the problem?

You mean those 15 pts you get for hitting a station?

[bitter snow]

But the vast majority of the server competition points were for RSS raided

Hey, you get 15 points for a win, whoopdedoo.... then you get 3 (?) points per parsteel looted, so you just grabbed 100k points just for cracking and getting the first dip on a warship...

scaling was 100% to the raiding side of things