h1-for-new-players

[sweet brook]

yeah but the cast is kinda whatever lmao

like you're not really using the cast for anything other than applying boiling blood in the mirror

the damage arty cast provides isn't really meaningful

[arctic finch]

i think aphrodites cast is terrible tho

not nearly enough range for literally anything

[sweet brook]

it's only good on 1 specific thing and it's really good at that one specific thing lmao

[arctic finch]

ok well i dont do that 1 specific thing

[sweet brook]

have you unlocked all the weapons yet

[arctic finch]

no

[sweet brook]

ah then you'll find out later

[arctic finch]

saving up 20 keys for the mirror stuff first

[sweet brook]

fair

[sweet brook]

it's less of "do that thing" and more of "use that thing" which you'll find out later lmao

[arctic finch]

i use the cast for long range attacks that i can still block with

mostly for kiting with the explodey skeleton bois

that genre of enemy yk?

[outer flint]

Yeah

[arctic finch]

gghh

[sweet brook]

if you smack them they get hit stunned so they wont throw a bomb at you

ofc when the die they drop one so be careful of that

[arctic finch]

too scared to get close

[sweet brook]

they won't hit you if you hit them (except for armor) lmao'

[arctic finch]

unless their armour is gone and theyre low enough to just slam into a wall over n over

until then i just go around in a circle lol

[sweet brook]

i promise you, you'll get better results if you get closer more often lmao

[cedar delta]

Shield is very blocky anyway

[outer flint]

Remember you have invincibility during dash(aslong as you dont attack)

[arctic finch]

i try but also im just paranoid lol

[outer flint]

Howw many death defiances do you have?

[sweet brook]

generally speaking, in this game it's a lot better to burst stuff down rather than trying to kite and kill slowly

with a decent-ish build, you'd be dealing substantial damage that they'll die fast enough

and also getting close will help you learn dash timings better

you might get smacked a lot when trying to get closer since it's not a playstyle you're familiar with

but it'd be well worth it

also opens up a lot better builds

although funnily enough, the better weapons in this game have range lmfao

they just play like close-mid range

bc a lot of the good boons/hammers encourage close range play

[cedar delta]

Every weapon is melee weapon, even the ranged weapons

[sweet brook]

very true

[arctic finch]

ive been trying to do that a bit more. but im just more comfortable far away most times

[sweet brook]

maybe playing the melee weapons will help lmao

trial by fire!

[arctic finch]

i did just get the hammer that turns my sword swing into a weird chop. and i hate it

at least i have a pretty good cast lol

gonna hope for support fire (the other good artemis boon) and ares's dash. or poseidon's

got athena's dash. good enough lol

can hammers be purged becs i hate this one lol

[cedar delta]

You should try Zeus's cast call (with Static Discharge) or Dio's! They both melt swathes of enemies

[sweet brook]

Unfortunately not really

World splitter kinda ass

[arctic finch]

i have dio's cast rn! it's good for my playstyle :) esp with this terrible hammer

artemis's call is good right? if im not using my attack for anything

[cedar delta]

Oh noooo! I meant to type "call" rather than "cast" earlier

Artemis's call is arguably even worse than her cast

Zeus and Dio are pretty much the only calls worth taking (for normal play)

[arctic finch]

ok

got it becs both of the other ones are stuff that replaces what i'm using

%$#$%$#@ TISIPHONE

[cedar delta]

M-murrrderrrrrrerrrr!

[arctic finch]

SHE'S GONNA MURDER ME WITHOUT ANY BLOCK

[cedar delta]

Use the Dash, Luke!

[arctic finch]

i ammmmmm

got to the second room shrink tho

died

also fun fact if you have stubborn defiance and youre low on hp in asphodel, if you finish the encounter without dying you can use it in the lava. figured that out because like. whats the worst that can happen lol the next room is hydra (i ended up beating it)

hey i just figured out that dashing makes scratches on the floor! im gonna try to make loss with it

[sweet brook]

Funnily enough that's a strat people do in the late game lmao

Pretty cool that you found that out early

Although typically speaking, you should be using death defiances lmao

[arctic finch]

too expensive for me

the other defiance i mean

[hollow hull]

SD is funny until the bosses take multiple DDs

[arctic finch]

i usually rely on SD in the middle of my runs tbh

until i have ~99999 darkness and nothing to spend it on i'll keep SD

you'll probably say it's just me being... stubborn

i hated that pun never let me say that again

[steady lark]

yes never speak again

[arctic finch]

anyway yeah for now since i tend to die more than 2 times per run and that's all the DDs i can afford i'll keep this strategy

[hollow hull]

Fair enough yeah

[steady lark]

sd lets you get used to getting hit a lot

[arctic finch]

it gives me wiggle room for being a stupid idiot lol

[steady lark]

ye thats the thing

as long as you keep using sd your room clearing wont improve

[arctic finch]

i can't afford the other one

[steady lark]

okfair

[arctic finch]

and upping my other stats seems to be helping with general survivability

[steady lark]

but it is expensive because its worth that much

[arctic finch]

im not gonna get it until i can get like. 4-5 at once

[steady lark]

it maxes out at 3 lol

[arctic finch]

okay then i will not get it

[steady lark]

[arctic finch]

i die more than that every run

[outer flint]

Thats what everyone is saying. By using SD you're giving yourself a sort of safety net thats inhibiting your improvement. By having your extra life regenerate every room, dying no longer matters to you. But it makes it harder to beat bosses because you arent worried about dodging in the normal rooms.

[arctic finch]

blocking is one of the 2 big reasons i main aegis actually. ive been trying to get more of that when fighting bosses. i just like having more revives for less darkness spent

[outer flint]

Learning how to dash is way more powerful that blocking

Dashes happen instantly, blocking takes significantly more time

[tidal condor]

Is this a good thing

[polar finch]

Nope

[hollow hull]

true, maybe i should be using DDs

[arctic finch]

hey uh. how would i counter theseus and the minotaur? my fight with them was spent frantically dashing around and gradually getting lower and lower until i died

[tidal condor]

#h1-for-new-players message

[arctic finch]

theseus had an attack where he basically filled the entire screen with hurtzones and i dont know how to dodge it

apparently it was an aphrodite boon

[hollow hull]

You can probably pause buffer there

To get an idea of the safe zone, and then go to it

[arctic finch]

also i did end up figuring out a good strategy to beat hydra

[arctic finch]

which boons do i get to avoid this though

what part of that was a swear word

ok uh

i dont wanna turn on god mode

feels. bad

...yeah ok i think that was it

but yeah if i turn it on it's always gonna be nagging at me and i dont want that

[dense pivot]

Will I lose a duo boon if I drop one of the corresponding single boons?
TIA

[arctic finch]

you dont need to send it twice

[tidal condor]

No

But some of them will not work if you sell one of the components - mainly the cast duos

If you have Lightning Phalanx and sell Phalanx Shot, you will still have Lightning Phalanx but it won’t function

[hollow hull]

Heroes is pretty manageable without god mode if you have a good build

What weapon are you on right now

[arctic finch]

Aegis

the only one i ever use

[hollow hull]

What aspect

If you have unlocked them yet

[arctic finch]

?

[steady lark]

yeah nvm

[hollow hull]

Ok nvm

[arctic finch]

i don't know what that is

[hollow hull]

Start with tidal dash and Pom it as much as possible

[arctic finch]

ok

[hollow hull]

Look for Zeus, Artemis, dio, or ares, or aphrodite on attack

If you find static discharge or Dionysus call, pop those as well

[steady lark]

[hollow hull]

Ideally you want charged shot

But any attack hammer will do

[polar jewel]

So it took me 52 tries to beat hades the second time and make it to mommy.
Then I didn't beat it again until try 59.
Both times I was using the sword with hp heal on hit, seems to be the only way I can beat it right now until my heat gets out of control.
I have the spear that heals on spin attack but can't seem to get enough juice out of that one to beat it.
What can I do to bring further upgrades for blood into my armory? Or is it totally random? Cause so far my spear is the only one with a 4th upgrade option.

[dusty vault]

Check #h1-story-discussion pins for the hidden aspects

[polar jewel]

Found the pin cheers.

[tidal condor]

Cursed slash is not very good due to the harsh penalty and the fact it only works on standing strikes (not dash strikes)

It’s usable as you’ve proven, but it’s also risky and inconsistent as you’ve seen

Many of the sword hammers are weak or detrimental due to similar reasons

Double Edge is excellent, and Double Nova is alright

In all likelihood if you’re finding yourself relying on hammers that let you heal, you need to work on your builds or your mechanics

[polar jewel]

Got it done on try 62 with bow, and unlocked 4th aspect for rail at the same time (not my first choice but I'll take it)

[polar arrow]

How do I get to give Thanatos ambrosia

[sterile solar]

Tldr, keep playing the game. There no specific anything, beat thanatos during game, talk some more to him, blah blah, heart unlocked

[gusty prism]

More interactions would him should do so

[merry nest]

In case you aren’t aware he will occasionally be back in the southwest(?) corner of where you come back to after dying

[outer flint]

He is guaranteed to be there if you encounter him in a run (iirc)

[sick bolt]

Hey guys, any platform has a Hades Demo so I can try it out?

[cedar delta]

Netflix on iOS has Hades 1 in full

Otherwise I'm not aware of any demos or cheaper options

[hollow hull]

There’s always buying it on steam and refunding before you hit 2 hours

[sick bolt]

Hmmm, good options, thanks guys!

If its as good as Bastion I'll eventually buy it full anyway

[tidal condor]

Is good game

[sick bolt]

Too bad it doesnt have the same voice as Bastion

[cedar delta]

Bastion's narrator plays several roles in Hades!

[arctic finch]

is the court musician stand useful?

is it used for anything other than music playback

[hollow hull]

no

[arctic finch]

ok so do not get it with my only diamond. heard you loud n clear

[hollow hull]

anything past the first tab of the contractor is purely aesthetic

[tidal condor]

Isn’t the music stand on the first tab

[hollow hull]

idk i haven't used the contractor in a while

[split mantle]

What heat modifiers do yall think are the easiest?

Im at 5 heat rn and Im using calisthenics and jury summons

[hollow hull]

Heat is technically a spoiler for this channel, you can discuss in #h1-high-heat-strategies

[somber frigate]

Easily ||tight deadline and the firsg 2 levels of extreme measures||

[somber frigate]

Those are 2 of the worst modifiers ngl

Yeah look at the heat guide

[split mantle]

where is that

nvmd I found it👍

[split mantle]

Rn I take around thirty minutes to get to hades but im using 2 levels of jury summons

Ig I could use tight deadline

[cedar delta]

JS2 is slooooow

[split mantle]

and 2 levels of calisthenics💀

Perhaps I should reconsider what punishments im usin

[cedar delta]

CP2 is slooooow

Definitely! JS2 and CP2 is a slow combo that creates a lot of room for mistakes (because more enemies that die way more slowly)

[split mantle]

alr thanks

Im pretty new so it seemed easy at first but my runs take like 35 mins

[hollow hull]

Probably is a build issue

[somber frigate]

You’re using 2 of the pacts that make the game the slowest and maximise the odds of enemies killing you

longer living enemies means more chances to die

more enemies means more chances to die

and they scale exponentially together

[split mantle]

is the one that gives bosses more abilities difficult?

or is it just minor things

[somber frigate]

not really

[split mantle]

Its a me being bad issue💀

Ive heard people say the +20% speed is easy but it seems so hard to me

anyways gtg

[sweet brook]

it's definitely not easy lmao

it's difficult to get used to

but once you learn the new timings, it becomes "free" since you hardwired your brain to the faster speed

[somber frigate]

It’s not easy but once you adjust to it, it’s just how the game works

You don’t turn it off anymore

it also just gives you minor timesave for your runs through like

3 different aspects of enemies being faster

[tidal condor]

Bro left

[sweet brook]

he'll come back and see the messages it's fine

[tidal condor]

What if he never does

[somber frigate]

What if he dies before he can see me talking about how bad cp2 and js2 are

[tidal condor]

Real

[polar jewel]

Cp2, js2? What just that mean? Hard to follow along sometimes when people always use abbreviations 😛

[somber frigate]

They’re technically spoilers for this channel anyways so I don’t expect anyone to actually get it unless they already know what they are

[polar jewel]

72 tries in, took me 51 to beat the first time and then not again until 59. Starting to beat more consistently now, just beat with fists of malphon... still need to beat with rail/bow

If I bought hades 2 I'd probably not look back at H1 hey? 😛

[somber frigate]

?

[polar jewel]

?

[steady lark]

ive played 250 hours of h2, id definitely stick with 1

[somber frigate]

As someone who’s never played Hades 2 it just seemed like a very odd and out there comment

[steady lark]

but i still dont get how that fit into the context

yeah

[polar jewel]

Lmao because I've been foaming at the mouth to try it now for like a week

And part of the reasons I haven't made the plunge is because I might just abandon H1 if I do

And im not technically done with it yet

[somber frigate]

Can’t really take the risk of jeopardizing my uni semester by getting Hades 2

[polar jewel]

Hahahahaha

[somber frigate]

Will buy it for summer break probably

[steady lark]

i did this 2 times in a row

*3

[polar jewel]

Oh?

Lmao

So you're saying don't buy it it gets more addicting 😂😂😂

[steady lark]

idk i just dont like h2 that much

also id finish h1 first

[somber frigate]

Might as well 100% Hades 1 first

Unseen One is all that’s left for meee

[steady lark]

i still have 62 and 64 left

[somber frigate]

Not 63?

[steady lark]

im not mysterra

[somber frigate]

Smh

[steady lark]

actually

might try that first

lc3

[polar jewel]

So far my highest heat is 4 with stygian blade. I've got everything available for the bedroom (game table last that I bought) and only have 1500 gem and 2x diamond upgrades left on lounge

Still a bunch of prophecy to fullfill

Quickest clear time like 29 minutes

Dude in victory boasting posted sub 6 minute clear time. Nuts.

[steady lark]

he does multiple sub6s everyday

[somber frigate]

Homie hasn’t found ranks 🫡

[polar jewel]

Ranks?

[split mantle]

unfortunately this has happened😢

[split mantle]

how bruh my record is 24 mins on zero heat

[polar jewel]

Haha. My record so far is like 28 or 29 minutes. 73 tries in

He uses alot of cast boosting boons and goes for boss damage and that kind of build by the looks of it

Said he was hitting 5k+ with his cast on one post

And uses weapon that immediately drops gem when used

[polar jewel]

#h1-victory-boasting

[sweet brook]

a lot of practice lol

Sub6 is pretty difficult to do and isn't really done by many people

[polar jewel]

I'll be stoked if I get sub 20 lol

[novel swift]

Time to go and get another one :croven:

[polar jewel]

I've been finishing the final area less and less and just kind of leaving as soon as I get the satyr sack for cereberus

[sweet brook]

Sub10 is way more achievable but still not like the most common thing either

[outer flint]

u gotta start small, like have the main goal be sub 10, but make smaller goals like sub20, sub19 that kinda thing

[hollow hull]

Sub 8 is super attainable with build knowledge tbh

[sweet brook]

Well yeah ik but like in general

[hollow hull]

Watch some vods and read the guide for your aspect

[sweet brook]

Most people stop at sub10 if they do want to get into speedrunning

[hollow hull]

Same with ||32-50 heat|| imo. Very attainable for most people with practice

[polar jewel]

I still haven't beaten hades with every weapon and sub 100 attempts so beggars can't be choosers lol

I haven't been focusing on any particular weapon either. I'll just use whatever has the 20% gem bonus at the time

[outer flint]

same, until the weapon happens to be the sword

i just cannot get a clear with the sword no matter the heat

[polar jewel]

Whaaaaat

Sword was the first one I cleared with. And the second one I cleared with 8 attempts later with other weapons

[outer flint]

its just so bad

and slow

[hollow hull]

I wouldn’t worry about the number of attempts stuff takes

[polar jewel]

Easiest one to clear with haha you need to get the boon that cuts your hp by 60% and gives you +2 heal on hit from daedelous

[outer flint]

thats a terrible hammer

tho

[polar jewel]

You can essentially no strategy and spam attack the rest of the game after that

[novel swift]

Zyru, one of the best Hades players ever, took 65 attempts to clear for the first time

[hollow hull]

It can be ok on Arthur maybe potentially

False side took like 80

[polar jewel]

I mean. I've heard people say that. Maybe it is for clear times. But for getting a clear I've found it very reliable

[outer flint]

you take soooo much damage with that strategy

[hollow hull]

For lower ||heat|| maybe but at a certain point stuff just one shots you and you’re not able to get the health back reliably

[polar jewel]

So?

[split mantle]

Tbf Im 29 att in so I have zero build knowledge

[polar jewel]

You can heal in excess of the damage on everybody except for hades

[hollow hull]

So it falls off just like any other bad build lol

[polar jewel]

And by hades I usually still have like 80hp so he can't outpace my heals with that much hp

[outer flint]

2hp isnt that much given the attack speed

[split mantle]

I go for demeter cast, artemis and demeter cast duo, artemis call, divine dash, support fire, and ares doom effects

idk how good of a build that is

[hollow hull]

Are you using god mode?

[polar jewel]

Ok for high heat. But if he hasn't even beaten with sword we can assume little to no heat

In which case that hammer boon is totally viable imo

[hollow hull]

Yeah I would still say cursed slash is a bad hammer

[outer flint]

ive technically beaten 0 and 1 heat with sword

[hollow hull]

It’s as viable as anything else and double edge is still better

[polar jewel]

Yes I'm using God mode xD is there some reason not to? XD I can't imagine taking 80% more dmg lolol

[split mantle]

I dont💀

[outer flint]

they're all equally bad bruh

[split mantle]

i like the challenge

[polar jewel]

Mmk. And ya im still noob so can't say to much. Just saying I've found it reliable to clear with, and hadn't managed to clear with stygian without that hammer boon until I unlocked arthur

[split mantle]

what hammers would yall pick for fists

[polar jewel]

If I see Hermes or daedelous hammer I can't help but choose them over pretty well any other door option

[sweet brook]

that would explain why cursed slash feels better than it really is lmao

[split mantle]

rn im going the +5 dmg per hit and the +60% on dash strike ones

[sweet brook]

you're healing more effective hp since you're taking a lot less

[split mantle]

real

[sweet brook]

mainly breaching cross since it deletes armor
long knuckle is good for range

[polar jewel]

Even with God mode the 4th spear aspect is impossible to clear with. Even with speed charging the spin attack its to unreliable to heal with

[sweet brook]

concentrated knuckle resets on dash strikes so it's unfortunately not great lmao
rolling knuckle is alright tho

[sweet brook]

ngl hidden spear is just hard to use, the spin heal with quick spin is actually very usable
||it's cleared 64 heat lmao||

[polar finch]

400% more damage*

[sweet brook]

it has quite good results because of the healing

[split mantle]

Rolling knuckle's good for me cuz my strat is mostly dash strikes

[polar jewel]

I always get interrupted and don't get enough heals xD can also be hard to aim it in the right direction sometimes or I'll throw it too short xD def takes some practice

[outer flint]

as it should be!

[polar jewel]

Plus mines only unlocked so -70% hp

[split mantle]

I basically just dash upper and then dash strike back and forth

[sweet brook]

yeah the issue is like it's 60% of like base 25? or something?

[steady lark]

the idea is you dont get hit in the first place

[outer flint]

the trick for guan yu is to basically ignore the spin, most of the time on low heat

[sweet brook]

so it's not like meaningful damage but it's alright

not bad but not amazing

it's aight lmao

[polar jewel]

I play on mobile. Dash upper is like... impossible unless you're a claw grip dork

[split mantle]

That makes sense why ur using god mode mobiles impossible

[polar jewel]

XD

[split mantle]

ggs if you can beat the game on mobile💀

[polar jewel]

Only took 52 attempts to reach mommy the first time

73 attempts now I've beat him with 4/6 weapons

[split mantle]

Took me 25 on console

[polar jewel]

Heat 5 on stygian

[split mantle]

Ive only beat him with fists lol

Im NOT trynna use the rail i hate it so much

[polar jewel]

I just got batteries in my Bluetooth controller was gunna try it out later. Gunna feel weird after this many runs of touch interface tho

[sweet brook]

it'll prob feel a lot easier lmao

[split mantle]

its sooooo much easier later tho

[polar jewel]

Rail sucks my butt. That and bow are only ones i have yet to beat with

[sweet brook]

rail is probably a build issue

are you using zeus attack

[split mantle]

Dash strike combos are way easier

[outer flint]

bow is goated

[hollow hull]

Yeah compared to double edge

[split mantle]

I just dont play it lmao

[sweet brook]

bow is a dash strike issue
and considering you're on mobile, that might explain why lmao

[polar jewel]

Actually the run I just logged out of is a rail run. Got the hammer boon first thing to double the speed of damage rampon 4th aspect so I have high hopes this time.

I can dash strike fine. By dash special is impossible to do comfortably

[split mantle]

I dont like the spear either bc the spin attack feels useless and the special makes you really vulnerable

gonna make some people mad lol

[polar jewel]

I like the range and speed but dmg is quite low on spear

[outer flint]

well the spin is useless, and special is only good on 1 aspect

[sweet brook]

yeah both of those are kinda bad on spear lmfao

the special is only good if you get exploding launcher

[polar jewel]

Then it's nuts

[sweet brook]

and your 2nd hammer would need to be charged skewer

for more damage

[hollow hull]

Because with 80hp, you’d only be taking 2 spins from dad lol

[outer flint]

requires a lot of building for it to be good

not worth imo

[split mantle]

I only really play shield blade and fists

[steady lark]

[hollow hull]

God mode makes the hp reduction viable

[split mantle]

one if his green thingy hits you

[hollow hull]

Only with high security but yeah

[polar jewel]

Well see if I ever turn off God mode lmao. I don't mind a challenge but I have my limits Mr dark souls

[outer flint]

hell mode + high heat is dark souls

[sweet brook]

eh

[split mantle]

how do you turn on hell mode?

and what does it do

[sweet brook]

at a certain point in high heat, hell mode is preferred lmao

[outer flint]

lmao

[sweet brook]

hell mode is only turned on at the creation of the save

[split mantle]

oh

[sweet brook]

permanent hard labor 1, lasting consequences 1, jury summons 1, calisthenics program 1, and personal liability

[polar jewel]

To give you guys an example of how ingrained touch interface is to my play style generally... if any of you have play runescape... I have an Ironman on osrs I used to play and I got the quest cape and 2k total level all on mobile. So there's that.

[outer flint]

easier than i remember

thought it did more honestly

[split mantle]

oh my god💀

Thats more than my heat mods right now

[sweet brook]

it's 5 lmao

but also like

they're kinda eh lmao

they make the early game hard but once you learn the game more it's just inconvenient lmfao

[polar jewel]

Someone gift me hades2 on steam kthnx

[hollow hull]

🤷‍♂️

[hollow hull]

Mods can we make this ban able

[polar jewel]

So when I'm all finished 3 starring all my keepsakes, which ones are actually S tier to use?

[outer flint]

real

[steady lark]

i am kind of tired of this game

[polar jewel]

Loooooool

[steady lark]

so much rng grinding

[sweet brook]

build dependent

[split mantle]

Oh yea also im trying to get megs legendary keepsake but she never appears in the lounge

Is there a way to get her too appear more?

or is it rng

[sweet brook]

rng afaik lmao

[split mantle]

shes appeared twice the last 9 runs

[polar jewel]

I seems to gravitate towards aphrodite, ares, poseidon, zues. But really I'm not picky so far just been experimenting until this point. A more focused regiment is soon to come

[sweet brook]

unlucky

[split mantle]

I really like demeter mostly for her cast

[outer flint]

lmao

thats def top 11 casts

[split mantle]

Demeter cast + plus her cast upgrade + demeter artemis duo = game trivialized

[polar jewel]

Oh I do use demeter to for chill stacks. Her cast really? I've only used it once or twice and didn't like it when I did. Felt to rng dropping the gem like that

[split mantle]

You can aim it

also get her artemis duo, it makes the cast track enemies almost perfecty

It can shred through any enemies health

[outer flint]

the cast aims where u were looking when you placed it, then it looks in a 30 or 35 degree angle for aiming

[split mantle]

Its really only good if you get other boons that buff it but then its pretty op

[sweet brook]

it'd still underperform other cast builds that need less rng lmao

[steady lark]

i dont think it would underperform

[split mantle]

Really? All the other casts ive tried seem kinda bad

especially dionysus

[steady lark]

other castbuilds require you to aim ur casts

dio is the strongest

lol

[split mantle]

hooooow

[outer flint]

well if you put the same amount of effort into them as you do for demeter then they are all good

[sweet brook]

yeah lmao

[split mantle]

ig

however I suck so auto aim = good

[outer flint]

the cast + another demeter boon + a artemis boon + demeter&artemis duo

[sweet brook]

ares cast -> hunting blades: homing blades basically
athena cast -> lightning phalanx: bouncing athena cast, can hit 3+ enemies
zeus cast -> get jolted: spread jolted across the room
dio cast -> ice wine: dio cast hits near immediately
aphro cast -> hera: best cast for hera by far and is one of the fastest/strongest builds in the game

[steady lark]

technically you could beat upto 62 heat with no boons so every single boon is redundant 🤓

[sweet brook]

3 of the above 5 need a duo and nothing else

[split mantle]

63 heat:

[split mantle]

that was my problem with dio cast. By the time it landed the enemy was on the other side of the room

[sweet brook]

you can bait enemies towards you and throw it on you

[split mantle]

i see

[steady lark]

try it with ice wine

[outer flint]

or just hit them with the cast !!!

[steady lark]

less delay

[polar jewel]

One of the reasons I like dashing with poseidon

Just clears out the little skulls and rats like they were never there

[outer flint]

poseidon dash is basically free clear

at low heat

[split mantle]

Im still kinda experimenting with boons, im only 29 runs in so i dont know allat much xd

[steady lark]

yeah dont sweat it

[outer flint]

way to early to be worrying about this lol

[split mantle]

What aspect should I be using for fists

[polar jewel]

So far the enemies I absolutely hate the most are the satyrs or the upgraded laser boys or the shield guys

[outer flint]

demeter is good, iirc

[split mantle]

thats what Im using rn

[polar jewel]

That's a boon not an aspect

Oh wait

[outer flint]

no

[polar jewel]

Nvm haha

[split mantle]

broooo the dumbaah butterfly balls

satyrs arent that bad cuz you ca stunlock the

unless theyre armoured ig

[polar jewel]

Those can be annoying but pretty basic. Oh and the hands that grip you. When they're shielded they're annoying af

I just Haye being poisoned

Again I'd hate to be poisoned with 400% more dmg. Even 1 dmg a tick is alot

[split mantle]

u know about the cure right

[polar jewel]

Yes lol

Still annoying

[split mantle]

sounds like a dumb qustion but I didnt find it until after my first clear

💀

[split mantle]

yeh

Now wait armoured snake stoned and armoured shield guys are the worst

[polar jewel]

Lernie the skeleton snake bosses minions?

I just chew em up. Lernie prolly easiest boss right now for me

[split mantle]

really? He used to be but now I find him second hardest

tisiphone -> megara -> alecto -> theseus/asterius -> lernie -> hades

[polar jewel]

Hades obviously most annoying. Then thessius, then prolly alecto, then lernie

[split mantle]

alecto is way harder than the other furies

[outer flint]

are you using em4?

[polar jewel]

Asterius is a chump

[outer flint]

er i mean em2

[split mantle]

whats that

[polar jewel]

Emergency measures heat pact

[split mantle]

oh

no💀

im using calsithnics2 and js2

prolly really bad heat pacts looking back

[outer flint]

em2 is basically free

cuz the bosses themselves are easy already

[split mantle]

really?

i only die to bosses

Mostly just hades

[outer flint]

do you just not have enough dps?

[polar jewel]

Middle management 1 makes a barely noticeable difference. 9 minute clear time per floor also non noticeable heat pact... the shield isn't terrible just hurts some combos

[split mantle]

I can always get to hadews with full death defiance but the he kills me 35% of the time

so idk

[outer flint]

try using Acron keepsake

its good for survivability

[split mantle]

how do you get it?

[outer flint]

the nymph lady in fire area

[split mantle]

aah

eurydice?

[polar jewel]

Ya

[outer flint]

ye

[polar jewel]

Give that lady some of your nectars too when you see her to build towards the Orpheus prophecy

[split mantle]

k

What legendary keepsake should i go for

i think meg right

[outer flint]

meg is the best

[polar jewel]

I still don't know how to get any of those yet 😛

[outer flint]

give character nectar

[split mantle]

give nectar until locked heart then ambrosia

[outer flint]

and itll happen

[polar jewel]

Ya ive been spending all my nectar trying to get rid of this Orpheus prophecy

[split mantle]

problem is meg is never in the lounge

so I can never give her nectar

[polar jewel]

I'll make sure to be giving Meg nectar when I see her from now on haha

[split mantle]

anyway Ive been on for an hour so ima leave💀

cya

[outer flint]

cyz

gl on finding meg!

[split mantle]

lmao ill need it

[polar jewel]

Ya being on rail doesn't help, but trying using controller... I'm so used to the touch interface it feels so weird. And with my busted rib and an iPad I'm really not able to do it ergonomically lol

[hallow bay]

undyne

[arctic finch]

the bone hydra just started spitting fireballs instead help

this was not accounted for

please bring back the lasers i can deal with the lasers

i beat it but im on 30/150 rn (i was at 147 when i started) (didnt die tho)

[arctic finch]

died on my second trial of the gods. should not have taken it lol. anyway. how do i make orpheus sing

[dusty vault]

Talk with eurydice

[split mantle]

always take trial of gods

[split mantle]

???

[hollow hull]

No???

[split mantle]

As long as you have like 30 health i think so

[hollow hull]

no, trials are almost never worth taking

[split mantle]

why?

[hollow hull]

most gods have pretty dangerous abilities and it can take a much longer time to clear

[split mantle]

ig

Im not really trying to speedrun yet and I find i dont take that much more damage

[hollow hull]

ymmv

[split mantle]

cant 2 boons be pretty game changing though?

[hollow hull]

i only take a trial if i want something from both gods and athena is offered

meh, depends on the boons

if i'm doing a merciful end build, I'll take an athena ares trial

but that's about it

[split mantle]

I mean hopefully i have gods that I like in my pool by the time I get a trial

[split mantle]

lmao i have no knowledge of builds 💀

[hollow hull]

all g

[sweet brook]

more boons doesn't mean better build

also some boons kinda just suck

2 boons are only good if they're actually useful for your build, otherwise it's a waste of hp and poms

[polar jewel]

Ya I haven't taken a trial in quite awhile. Most of the gods powers are too annoying to fight and not worth it.

[tidal condor]

More boons means less chance of poms hitting your actual damage sources

[final dune]

do not do that

never take trial

they suck

[split mantle]

hmmm ive basically always taken boons when i can so far

That makes sense though

[tidal condor]

Taking lots of boons early on is intended

They want you to see and touch everything

That’s why there’s prophecies to get every boon once

But eventually you wanna be more choosy

[split mantle]

Really? I thought it was only some

yeh i dont really have any build knowledge

[tidal condor]

Nope, every god has a prophecy

[split mantle]

so I just take every boon

[tidal condor]

You have to gift them nectar first

Or in chaos case gift nectar twice

[split mantle]

oooh

[tidal condor]

And there’s also a prophecy for every duo and for every legendary

[split mantle]

Yeh I know those

legendaries are so rare though?

ive only found 2

[tidal condor]

Yeah they can be hard to find

[split mantle]

theres exactly one duo for any two gods right

[tidal condor]

The god’s legacy option on mirror helps with that prophecy

Right

[split mantle]

thats in the final mirror unlocks right

im saving up 30 keys for that right now

[tidal condor]

Ya

For general play the other option is stronger usually

But for hunting the duos and legendaries to finish those prophecies, legacy is real helpful

[split mantle]

also should I be using death or stubborn defiance

Im using death right now

[tidal condor]

Death is best until you start doing really high heat

Gives you the most buffer during bosses

Which are usually the hard part

[split mantle]

I use all my death defiance on hades

[tidal condor]

😔

[split mantle]

well not all but hes the only room that takes my death defiance

[tidal condor]

Technically the name of that boss is a spoiler in this channel 👀

[split mantle]

mb guys

But im basically a new player

[tidal condor]

Have you beat final boss yet?

[split mantle]

If you mean dad then yes

max 5 heat

[tidal condor]

If you want some general build tips I’ll link a guide in #h1-builds-and-combat

[split mantle]

aight thx

[ruby kelp]

How do I get Titan blood besides like beating the boss in the first level with different weapons. I impulsively bought aspects and have none left

[sweet brook]

Once you clear a run you can get more blood

[ruby kelp]

Watchu mean

[sweet brook]

Idk how to rephrase that lmao

Like once you beat a run

More opportunities to get titan blood come up

[ruby kelp]

Alright

[polar jewel]

Can also sell the ambrosia in the lounge once you get to that guy for titan blood

[long zenith]

if i skip a duo boon (took aphrodite’s attack over sweet nectar) will i have a chance of coming across it again?

[cedar delta]

Yes

[tidal condor]

Even if you take a duo and then purge it you can get it again (assuming you still meet the prerequisites)

[sweet brook]

I sold the same duo twice in a run then got it a third time before lmao

[hollow hull]

i've done that tooyeah

i think parting shot is pretty prone to that

[sweet brook]

Probably tbh lmao

[untold talon]

what is ur favorite weapon?? @everyone

[sweet brook]

Given the frequency of Athena and Aphrodite in builds

[hollow hull]

🗿

[sweet brook]

Side note, @everyone doesn't work here lmao

[hollow hull]

that doesn't work here, and why would you try to ping thousands of people

[untold talon]

aww

[sweet brook]

But otherwise probably like bow or shield

[untold talon]

cus why not

[hollow hull]

zeus aspect of shield

you don't think it's a little inconsiderate?

[untold talon]

nice @sweet brook

[sweet brook]

Not everyone wants to be pinged for a random question that isn't important to them at all

Only the devs can do that bc they actually make announcements lmao

[untold talon]

😦

[steady lark]

@everyone

[untold talon]

huh

[outer flint]

my fav weapon has to be ||guan yu|| spear

[untold talon]

i really like the fists aspect of talos

[outer flint]

is that the magnetic special one?

[untold talon]

i usd only use the spear

[steady lark]

[untold talon]

what is sticky bot

[outer flint]

that is some high level grammar.

sticky is there to make sure we're on topic

[untold talon]

thanku

oh alr

grammar is my specialty

[outer flint]

Clearly.

[steady lark]

i cant even tell whos being sarcastic anymore

[untold talon]

im never sarcastic

[steady lark]

[outer flint]

[untold talon]

gyat

[outer flint]

[untold talon]

🌊

[outer flint]

https://tenor.com/view/chiitan-jiminastie-gif-jiminastie-gif-5779411092642646429

[untold talon]

:augh:

[outer flint]

bozo

[untold talon]

monkey CHILDREN

yay

[outer flint]

u gotta be in the server its from & have nitro to use custom emojis

[untold talon]

huh

what other games do u play??

[outer flint]

#off-topic-discussion go here and ill answer

[untold talon]

huh

[cedar delta]

How about #video-games

[outer flint]

nah

[untold talon]

i keep pressing a to pick up loot because im used to botw

aspect of talos on the fists is kind of op

[tidal condor]

Perhaps

[ruby kelp]

What the sigma do you use the cool nectar for

[untold talon]

u give it to people

and they give u something

(give one to the dog)

@ruby kelp

[outer flint]

assuming you mean ambrosia, eventually after you give a character enough nectar you can give them ambrosia

[untold talon]

oh i didnt know that

im giving the dog more nectar

[outer flint]

goated strat

[untold talon]

thx

i love how we can actually pet the dog

unlike botw

[ruby kelp]

What’s it do tho

[untold talon]

i pet him every time i walk past him

[untold talon]

no idea

prob give u more stuff

sticky shut up

[outer flint]

do you have keepsakes?

[steady lark]

you arent allowed to say that to bots in this server

[outer flint]

yeah man

sticky is a protected species

[untold talon]

aw dang it

[outer flint]

there are certain characters that upon giving them the ambrosia will give you a special keepsake

the locked hearts in the keepsake menu

[untold talon]

how much nector do u nead to give to get ambrosia?

sticky dont shut up

[outer flint]

a lot?

i dont remember but at some point they won't let you give nectar

then u gotta wait for rng encounter

[untold talon]

nice

[ruby kelp]

Almost all of them

Besides the secret ones and like one more

[untold talon]

best keepsake??

[outer flint]

abrosia is for 2 things: secret keepsake and trading for blood

[ruby kelp]

I like acorn

[outer flint]

depends, but for final boss its acorn

[ruby kelp]

Lucky tooth also nice

[untold talon]

na it gotta be the dog collar

[outer flint]

yeah but acorn usually does more

[ruby kelp]

Erm alright Ty

[outer flint]

100 hp death defiance v. 5 free hits

[ruby kelp]

Idk how much damage hades does so yea

But I assume ur right

[outer flint]

he does a lot

like 40 per hit

[ruby kelp]

Dang

[untold talon]

the aspect of talos on fists is op

[outer flint]

err

sure

[untold talon]

did anyone here get out of the underworld

[ruby kelp]

Yeah you’ve said that like 4 times we get it

[untold talon]

imgonna keep sayign it

[outer flint]

yeah, im just here to help peopel get out of underworld

[untold talon]

oh nice

[outer flint]

speaking of which, when you use Talos what basic build do you go for?

[untold talon]

furthest i got was the third part but then i died

[steady lark]

no one here uses talos

[ruby kelp]

Erm this @untold talon guy does

[untold talon]

ya

[steady lark]

ohhh ok

[outer flint]

for fists u usually want zeus attack and static discharge @untold talon

if you arent doing that then the build will struggle

[untold talon]

il look at it

what even is a build im new

[outer flint]

a combination of boons ig

[untold talon]

oh alr

[ruby kelp]

My favorite build is pick random stuff then die in Elysium and repeat

[outer flint]

its used in so many games that most people just already know the definition

[untold talon]

same

[sweet brook]

A build in any game is typically some combo of things that make yourself stronger that typically synergize together

[untold talon]

thx

[outer flint]

but yeah, zeus atk + static discharge is a must have for a fists build

[sweet brook]

Well for one of the possible builds yeah

[outer flint]

0 heat, fists build to turn your brain off:

there.

[sweet brook]

Merciful end is the strongest option

Arguably more turn your brain off

[outer flint]

seems overkill ngl

[sweet brook]

Does that matter lmao

Strong build is strong

[untold talon]

is there a way to turn of sticky?

[sweet brook]

It's less consistent but it's still strong

[tidal condor]

Yes

[sweet brook]

Just block it

[tidal condor]

You have to be an admin of this server though

0 Heat brain off fist build is literally just

[untold talon]

oh

[tidal condor]

Tidal dash + poms

[outer flint]

real

[tidal condor]

And a non useless attack boon

So zeus or ares or Dionysus

[outer flint]

just spam dash atk

[untold talon]

jow do yall know the names of the boons

[tidal condor]

Practice

[outer flint]

cuz there are some boons that are really common

[untold talon]

bro i couldnt name one

[tidal condor]

Practice more

[ruby kelp]

Playing the game a lot

[outer flint]

like ME - meciful end. Tidal Dash - Poseidons dash

[untold talon]

how old r u gauys

[outer flint]

not adult

(^-^)

[untold talon]

very vage

[tidal condor]

72 here

[untold talon]

cap

[outer flint]

in dog years

[untold talon]

one of us is a creepy 40 year old with no freinds

why everyone quiet r u all creepy 40 year olds with no freinds

[outer flint]

sry man

im trying to play osu

and you're asking off topic questions

[untold talon]

i just killed alecto

asphodel here i come

i love getting charons shop

yay time to fight death inself

[outer flint]

charon?

[untold talon]

ya

oh np

no

tnatos

thanatos

i think it was a tournament

who kills more peopl

[tidal condor]

the aspect of talos on fists is op

[untold talon]

yes

[tidal condor]

I lied

[outer flint]

fr

this reminds me of the time that Gilgamesh fan came in here to try and tell us about how good aspect of gilgamesh is

[hollow hull]

talos lowkey trash as well

[novel swift]

More like highkey trash

[untold talon]

😦

[naive bear]

I started playing hades again but it's been so long I've forgotten all of the story, dialogue and lore lmao

[naive bear]

I remember I really liked the lore and story so should I start again or smthing

[tidal condor]

Do it!

[naive bear]

I don't wanna lose my progress though aaaaahhhhh

Hopefully worth it though

[untold talon]

i kept choosing the heart and am now at 300 health

agh HELP im fighting the minotar and theseus for the first time

[tidal condor]

#h1-for-new-players message

[outer flint]

why doesnt anyone pin that message?

[hollow hull]

It’s not up to us

[outer flint]

i meant why hasn't a mod pinned it

ig they focused on other things rn

[hollow hull]

If the mods pinned every piece of useful advice, the pins would be pretty diluted

[dusty vault]

I'd want to organize the tips better anyways

[outer flint]

just a giant message that has tips for every boss?

[dusty vault]

mostly heroes lol

or final boss

[sweet brook]

tbf the only problems people have with bosses is really just heroes and final

furies and hydra majority of people just get on their own through whatever play style

and doesn't take as long to figure out

[oak aurora]

Good morning, I just started playing yesterday and I'm a little lost. Between learning and the fact that everything here is in English, I don't know if there is anyone who speaks Spanish here, or a server for Spanish players.

[outer flint]

You can try and find a smaller server that is mostly spanish. Like a spanish youtuber or speedrunner

[hollow hull]

Final boss is a spoiler, move to #h1-builds-and-combat

[ruby kelp]

Sorry!

[hollow hull]

All g

[stray cypress]

AHHHH I ABSOLUTELY LOVE HADES

But quick question

I maxed out Dionysus on his nectar-thingy

How does I give him more

I know I have to give him Ambrosia but it wont let me

[dusty vault]

Need to do a favor/side quest for each character

Dio's is gifting 10 ambrosia in total iirc?

All the favors are in the wiki

[stray cypress]

And how do I get those?

[dusty vault]

most of them are just tracked in the background

some of them do show up as prophecies (like ares)

so like, once you have dio's pre reqs done he'll just comment on it at some point and the lock will clear

[stray cypress]

Ok wait so I just scoured through the wiki a bit

And now I get the feeling that beating (the final boss) WAS THE TUTORIAL

LIKE WDYM THERES SO MUCH TO DO

[sweet brook]

lmfao

vaguely yes

[stray cypress]

I felt so proud of myself after “Beating the game”

[sweet brook]

you can still be proud of that lmao

story wise to hit the credits, it's 10 clears

[stray cypress]

WHAT

No wonder it still says to do more of the story to unlock more of Zag’s codex entry

[sweet brook]

dw it gets easier from here lmao

[shrewd vessel]

i finally beat the game after 22 hours

[unique drift]

I really like how godmode doesn’t really hold your hand like other easy modes do, it still allows you to experience things in the game even if you are worse at it

[long zenith]

is there an efficient way to max out keepsakes? i’ve just been using the same ones throughout the entire run to try and max them out. i’m just trying to get the achievement lol.

[sweet brook]

every chamber in styx goes towards leveling up your keepsake so you could take all the tunnels to help

other than that there isn't really a faster way

[long zenith]

sounds good! just gonna grind them on low heat. i think it takes 2 full runs to max out a keepsake? i have like…11 keepsakes to max out

[sweet brook]

ngl i got no clue how long it takes to max out a keepsake i did that years ago lmao

and i didn't even do the styx tunnel thing

[tidal condor]

What I do is if a run is cracked enough I don’t need acorn, I just use my ely and Styx keepsake slots for leveling keepsakes

With some practice it becomes trivial to reach that state

[long zenith]

i started a new save file since i took a long hiatus from the game. i’m just in the epilogue and working on maxing out keepsakes and passing out nectar/ambrosia

[lethal hill]

Hello guys, I was not prepared for Hades to have two phases. Now I want to cry

Okay that’s kind of a weird message-

But yeah nobody could prepare me for that

I had two death defies and good boons and I still died

[somber frigate]

Stickybot just likes to keep his own message at the bottom of chat to counter unsuspecting Hades 2 players

[lethal hill]

Fair enough

[somber frigate]

Tbf it was also your first time getting that far like

You haven’t had any practice or experience against his second phase

also if you’re in this channel, then “good boons” could really be uh… anything

[lethal hill]

Well I THINK I had good boons at least

I mean the one that helped me the most was Demeters Cast

That went a long way

Helped me shred through the hp quite easily.

I think I could have used a better call though. I didn’t get any replacement options though.

[novel swift]

Calls cannot be replaced

[somber frigate]

You can’t exchange calls

the only way to get a new one is to sell yours and get a different god to offer one

which call did you even have?

-# if dem cast was shredding hp then either you had some godly meme beams build going on, or your expectations are low

[lethal hill]

Idk what I did but I felt like I did it right

[lethal hill]

Ah makes sense

[lethal hill]

I had Dionysus call

Which isn’t bad it’s just

Not the best

[somber frigate]

It’s top tier

Zeus and dionysus are the 2 best damage calls in the game

[unique drift]

I find it that ares call is the worst

[lethal hill]

Because I hadn’t gotten a lot of boons from him so my hangover damage was meh

[lethal hill]

Oh, didn’t know that

[somber frigate]

you don’t need dionysus boons for it to do damage

[lethal hill]

Maybe I’m just dumb lmao

Huh

Then idk

[somber frigate]

You just spam minicalls with it, and pom it when you can

[hollow hull]

dio call is literally the best yeah

[somber frigate]

It does a ton of damage at base with each mini-call, the hangover stacks charge your own call back, and it scales super hard with more poms

[lethal hill]

Maybe I needed more poms

I did focus on the call

No

Sorry

The

Cast

[somber frigate]

Even without poms it does like 1080 damage over 4 seconds off a minicall

To all the enemies that get hit with 5 stacks

[lethal hill]

Mmm fair enough

Then I guess it was just me being inexperienced with hades and panicking

It was the first time I had BOTH death defies on the final boss

[unique drift]

That is like what ||shady|| does in one calling

And without the 1 use limit

[somber frigate]

Uh

You can certainly view it that way

one pom brings that from 1080 damage to 1620

I believe

hmm

Oh whoops

It’s 825 -> 1265

Slightly off on my math my b

it’s still stupid high

[somber frigate]

What aspect/weapon was this with?

[lethal hill]

Oh uh

Shield of chaos

[somber frigate]

right

[hollow hull]

Tbf dio call focus works with any weapon

[somber frigate]

Dem cast works well when you’re starting out because if you’re careful you can just drop them and focus on dodging, but it’s a very slow way to deal with your problems

and leaves you a lot of room to make mistakes due to taking so long

[tidal condor]

Meme beams

[lethal hill]

Fair enough yeah

I did get hit when I cast them a lot

[tidal condor]

To make them even close to useable you need the duo with Artemis and you need heavy poms on Glacial Glare (demeter boon that makes her cast last longer)

[somber frigate]

casting is slow, the damage they deal are slow, if you don’t have the artemis duo then the aiming is slow

you dodge away and now you need to dodge back to get your casts back

[tidal condor]

Otherwise they’re just.. a rounding error worth of damage compared to what you can do with a standard dash strike focused build

[somber frigate]

or whatever your weapons equivalent build is

give you said shield of chaos can I assume you haven’t gotten all the weapons yet?

Or did you mean chaos’s shield specifically

it’s hard to gauge in here because new players like to type out the full names of the weapons and shield is an awkward case

[hollow hull]

you might as well use achilles for dem cast

[lethal hill]

Oh I meant specifically chaos shield. Like the upgraded version

Idk the other weapons scare me

I’ve done well with the bow too but

[hollow hull]

chaos shield is not great

[somber frigate]

Chaos shield is uh

[hollow hull]

zeus is a better option 🙏

[lethal hill]

…it’s pretty

[somber frigate]

The 4th best shield aspect by a mile

[lethal hill]

Guess I have to beat up Meg more

Well

Not Meg but you get it

Meg and co

[somber frigate]

I mean you’ll never succeed with them if you don’t give them a try

[lethal hill]

Fair fair. It’s just the STUPID BONE HYDRA

I always lose at least one death defy there and I freaking hate it

[somber frigate]

I’m a big bow fan personally but I’ve spent my fair share of multiple tens of hours with each weapon

[lethal hill]

I honestly like the bow too and the gun seems fun? I unlocked it recently but haven’t touched it

I like range

I don’t like close combat I get hit

[somber frigate]

Mhm fair enough

spear is practically a ranged weapon too

and I… can’t really say I use bow or rail as ranged weapons at this point

[golden dune]

Guys, what is the fancy elixir item that theseus and the minotaur drop used for? 😔

[somber frigate]

that’s mainly used for gifting the final hearts to npcs

You have to complete an npc’s favour (specific ingame trigger) before you can unlock those hearts and give them any

[lethal hill]

Wait how do you not use the bow for range

[somber frigate]

Dashstriking?

and being a safe gamer

It’s just faster for me to run it like a melee weapon

[hollow hull]

most bow gameplay is ranged tbf

[somber frigate]

especially when the good bow hammers incentivise it

[somber frigate]

Melee-mid range

It’s not really ranged ranged persay

[cedar delta]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1192630956448817193/2024010419473301-C7D8C4153CC9802713604F54C53304E0.mp4?ex=6728c2e2&is=67277162&hm=d6e987fa02e1e0723f120430f5ed55c2329db725a52d98366de996bc0e557b45&

[somber frigate]

I wonder who made that clip 😔✊

[cedar delta]

Whoever made it is probably handsome and intelligent

[hollow hull]

and doesn't play zeus shield 🗿

[somber frigate]

One of the best parts of staying close to enemies is that you can dash to the other side of them to avoid their attacks

and then immediately dash strike them from there

It gives you one more direction to move in

compared to always trying to stay far away when you’re at range

[lethal hill]

Oh fair

[somber frigate]

I find it also makes it easier to line up enemies to hit multiple with the same shot

[lethal hill]

WHAT DID SO MUCH DAMAGE OH MY GOD

[somber frigate]

My bow shots

[lethal hill]

Oh okay can’t curse

That’s crazy

[somber frigate]

You can thank aphrodite strike and hydraulic might from poseidon for that

[lethal hill]

I love Aphrodite so much her boons are lowkey very good

[somber frigate]

On the contrary, Blood and Darkness

[hollow hull]

highkey very good

you can say ass thankfully

[lethal hill]

Fair enough

[somber frigate]

Hydraulic might, heartbreak strike, family favourites, boiling blood, zagreus bow for crits, and presumably pointblank or perfect shot

I don’t think I had anything from chaos yet

But yea, bow good, bow doesn’t need to be ranged, same deal with rail

Tidal dash is a really strong boon for all weapons, but rail can really abuse it so you end up playing close for that

[hollow hull]

If you want that kind of chonky damage, get the hidden aspect of how

Literally massive damage

[somber frigate]

and you also just have like rocket bomb + (triple or cluster bomb) turning your special into a shotgun

Alrhough Hestia is pretty tried and true as a ranged weapon

Sniper rifle and all

The spears are great ranged weapons

[hollow hull]

Hestia works both melee and range depending on starting boon yeah

[somber frigate]

Zag rails biggest selling point is spreadfire which literally makes it a shotgun

[solid bough]

Hey how can help me for unlock the last memories ?

[grave wolf]

Just got H1 on the switch after playing a whole lot of H2 and I've been having a whole lot of troubles with the weapons
Haven't been able to beat redacted once
Any tips about the gloves, bow and Rali I should know about to improve my playing?
(As well as dodging too I suppose, losing too much health to redacted)

[polar finch]

Well dash is a lot stronger and more important in h1 ig. Dash strikes are faster than reg attacks so you want to use them a lot for both dps and mobility. Like for the fists its fast, hits a wide area, and also resets your attack chain so you dont paise after a few strikes, for bow it speeds up charge speed if you dash before shooting, and for rail the shots after a dash come out faster. Though be aware that if you attack while dashing youll instantly lose the iframes.

[grave wolf]

Finally beat him(cheesed him with Demeter cast + chilled)

Shield of chaos too pmao

[unreal hollow]

Anyone have tips for someone struggling in damage? I feel like some times it’s just so obvious I’m doing minimal damage even when things seem to be looking great. I’ve got max mirror and one hades kill under the belt

[cedar delta]

Compare your builds to these: https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide

[unreal hollow]

Have you found that people always use those boons to guarantee their starting god

[tidal condor]

If they want to have more consistent and powerful runs then yes, they always do

The benefit of shaping your build early without relying on RNG to give you a compatible god outweighs the benefits of any other keepsake for the first two regions

Not even a close comparison

[hollow hull]

People usually use keepsakes to guarantee a starting god yeah