so far I'm having fun with this update! Still, I need a little more time to adjust to the changes
#h1-discussion
daring mesa
sinful pine
final update before 1.0 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
i'm not anywhere near beating the game because of exams and other things but i will try to make it happen before 1.0, i am really happy for supergiant to be able to pull this off despite the pandemic and all, and to everyone in the community that has been understanding and supportive as well
minor hornet
have other people already mentioned that having v-sync enabled is causing framerate issues, when it wasn't a'fore the patch?
fervent thunder
Do only i feeling increased difficulty after patch ?
strong furnace
Not sure if it feels harder cause I haven't played in a while or cause of the patch
manic bobcat
You can read the patch note but overall, yeah, i think the game a tiny bit faster and ... crisper, if that makes sense.
fervent thunder
Seems lower drop of perks but easier to earn gold
i don't know how to explain , just harder and that's it. I guess i should read full patch note or... doesn't matter and find new style
cerulean nacelle
Ohhh I'm considering buying hades on steam, but I also already bought it on epic games lol
sinful pine
i'm just hyped we're officially getting our 4th game
cerulean nacelle
I adore it so far tho
sinful pine
i wonder what/if ssg has anything in store for the 5th game, though that's looking too far into the future i guess, the game is already a success without hitting 1.0 and ig they deserve a break
charred bronze
Hades 2: now is personal
sinful pine
hades 2 electric boogaloo
charred bronze
Now you are trying to get in not out
manic bobcat
It's gonna be a mobile game
sinful pine
in all seriousness though, i'm glad we're not getting sequels to any of the games
and the fact that each game is its own, complete entity
make something, see what worked/didn't, move on
wind nest
broke how?
wind nest
So I assume it's that you have to ||kill 10000 enemies||
narrow hemlock
not a single person playing beta finished it
wind nest
I allready hit that number according to the scrying pool
narrow hemlock
||its total kills, it should be retroactive like every other god favour was||
past rune
It may still be very busted
narrow hemlock
im still getting generic dialogue so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
wind nest
And the value is ||10K|| right? I had that number before the beta even started
narrow hemlock
yes
tall cloak
i'm wondering if you have to use the keepsake, since the wording of the prophecy says you have to seek him
narrow hemlock
ive been using the keepsake
tall cloak
but so far that hasn't been the case
narrow hemlock
the keepsake doesnt affect anything other than forcing appearance
tall cloak
yeah
wind nest
I've seen dialogue options in the code about that number
That's kinda the only requirement there
I'm not super up on how quests/prophecies all work, but yeah it's never fired for me
narrow hemlock
well i dont know about everyone else but in my case ||the dialogue bugged out completely, i picked up the first ares boon of a run and it skipped straight to the boon selection with no dialogue. it was only after that that i happened to check prophecies and saw i had it.||
vagrant flint
Is it me, or does the screen become red when you've lost all of your DD uses?
manic bobcat
Yes
last willow
A question, let's say I had completed a quest for a god's boons. Now there were more added, does the quest come back, with the new boons on the list, unobtained?
vagrant flint
k
past rune
The screen typically becomes very red for an extended period of time once you lose all DD/SD's for me. Especially for the elysium bosses
charred bronze
I believe once a profecie is complete it doesn't matter if they change or add requirements
tall cloak
you'll see the items on the prophecy's checklist darkened/unchecked, but once you've cleared it the prophecy doesn't retroactively ask you to clear it again; i'm not exactly sure what the interaction would be if you cleared it and never took the rewards in between big patches.
wheat canopy
That wait for 1.0 is nearly over. Man, this has been a tough one.
nimble ocean
you know, that every SGG game has that kind of ending, that breaks your heart in a way, and makes you cry a lot
they wanted to make this one lighter and happier
but there will be heartbreaking ending.. when they'll say that development of Hades is over and they move to the next project
you know.. it's kinda new experience, when game development is a part of the game experience for the community..
it's even stated in the game.. in some form.. that the underworld is still under renovations..
before that games were published as is, in the complete form
and you know, that feeling "there is always more ahead" is a part of game process
game ends, you didn't get through, but the story goes on
100th run and there is so much to discover still
almost 2 years of development, 1,5 of early access and there is still more to come
and imagine the blow when (not if, when) it will be over
dead end, nothing more to expect
i believe there was someone in the myths, who represent this kind of thing
noble root
all riiiiiiight
tiny bobcat
thanks for the update team 🙂
warm frigate
Did the blood price update drop now or later?
past rune
Dropped now
warm frigate
Thanks, got it updated now, amazing
vale drift
There was a bit of discussion on this earlier -- War-God's Bloodlust currently has a bug preventing it from being completed. It should be fixed in our next patch (should be in the coming days).
warm frigate
i was just done for the day, after playing around 5 hours... As soon as i quit i see the trailer drop so now we're going for an all nighter hahaa
past rune
Yeah, unfortunately @narrow hemlock has to suffer with no more ares hearts for now
narrow hemlock
oh trust me ive been going ham on vial runs every time a patch dropped lmao i figured he still wasnt working properly ):
i know the prophecy has been oddly buggy so hopefully you guys figure it out 🙌
(luv that im getting pinged, i just want ares to call me back 😔)
past rune
I'm pretty sure Hypnos isn't bugged anymore at least
narrow hemlock
last i was doing runs he seemed to be progressing finally
olive iris
have to say that trailer looked AWESOME! can't wait to play it tomorrow
proud ember
Is anyone else finding that the game feels like it's running at a low FPS after the patch? counter says I'm at 144+ but it feels like it's running at 30
brisk trail
I wanted to drop by and say whoever did the music for hades is awesome!!! I aspire to create music as good as the ones in game.
vale drift
Thank you for the kind words!! The music in Hades and all of our games is by our composer and audio director, Darren Korb -- also the voice of Zagreus and Skelly!
timber hemlock
Who is the new Boss? I didn't get it
patent topaz
i already said this in the tech help channel but the game says i'm playing the beta even after i updated the game and never played the beta, anyone has my same problem?
warm frigate
Wow music and voice acting. Sure is talented
vale drift
Symbo, where specifically does it say you're playing the beta?
mossy lily
vale drift
Artidery, his model is updated, but his portrait is the same as before!
junior wave
Aw man. Game crashed during the third boss fith
vale drift
Sorry to hear that, Purble... if it's something that occurs with any regularly please let us know in #h1-tech-support. We're monitoring reports of any new technical issues from this update.
proud ember
Ah, VSYNC is locking it to 60, I have a 144hz monitor - maybe the patch has accidentally instated a hardcap?
vale drift
Royce, Vsync can improve performance when disabled for some players (and when enabled for others). Please try changing the setting and see if it's better for you that way.
junior wave
@vale drift Will do. It unfortunately completely reset my run, so it's as if I "gave up". Which means I've lost some unlocks... But ah well
patent topaz
@vale drift 1 when i open the game the message says "if you're reading this you're playing the beta yadda yadda"
2 on the top right corner of the main menu it's written BETA VO.31595
by the way i updated the game just by clicking the update button that appeared instead of play and also i never downloaded the beta
vale drift
OK, that's odd. Which version, Steam or Epic Games Store?
patent topaz
@vale drift Steam
proud ember
Yeah, I'll have a fiddle with some settings and see what I can do, thanks! (and thanks to supergiant for transistor cause I've used the name Royce Bracket for a while lol)
junior wave
Is it just me, or does the Cast not home in on enemies like it used to? Or am I just really bad today?
vale drift
@patent topaz Have you tried verifying the integrity of the game files? Right-click Hades in Library, select Properties, select Local Files, and look for the option there. It sounds like you don't have the update yet.
past rune
Cast should still be homing in
patent topaz
@vale drift i tried, also i have the updated patch notes and roadmap on the main menu
and charon on the background
literally nothing suggests i'm playing a beta but the thing on the top right and the message
vale drift
The roadmap and main menu were updated that way in the beta.
Please try restarting Steam also if you haven't done that recently.
patent topaz
ok will try, thanks a lot!
patent topaz
@vale drift i tried restarting the files but it still shows beta vo.31595
patent topaz
but the steam banner updated, it still was the nighty night one
vale drift
Yes, we just released a hotfix v0.31601, with fixes to several crashes reported by players.
atomic seal
damn that was fast
manic bobcat
Thank you Greg and the team. That was blazing fast!
vale drift
@patent topaz Would you mind continuing this in #h1-tech-support? I'm sorry I wasn't able to help. I can't think of a reason you should be seeing "beta" text in the Steam version of the game at this point.
patent topaz
alright thank you anyway, it's not like i mind that much maybe it will fix with the next patch c:
native atlas
Are Chaos fishing pools real or just rummors?
wary solstice
real , I got it once in like 60 runs
loud ether
really
native atlas
i'll be darn if i've ever seen one. I've gotten the legendary chaos boon multiple times but no fihing point
hollow heron
... wasn't concentrated fire already an existing rail hammer?
wary solstice
yeah, got a Really cool fish :"D
hollow heron
I swear I've seen it before
past mirage
I got one Chaos fish in over 150 escape attempts, but some are from before fishing was introduced. Actually it should get easier to find some now, namely if you happen to get a Pool with a Skeletal Lure and a Chaos gate in the same chamber. Didn't see it yet, but it was reported by other players.
Don't mess it up, you'll rue the day forever
sharp parcel
performance has been amazing for me since the update
acoustic ledge
bruh i found the "new encounter" and died...
sharp parcel
I used to get frequent dips into 40s in some Asphodel and Elysium areas, now it's a stable 60
grave nebula
time to try out hades
i made it out a few times before and got bored
and carpal tunnel
smoky rune
performance has definitely been better. Far better. no more memory leaks or crashes to desktop. I get frame drops, but I'm also running on less than 3 ghz
I wonder if my multiple cores, though, helps mitigate my lower processor speed...
grave nebula
it does
barren rune
been playing all day and yea seems to be running totally smooth
grave nebula
but is there an actual benefit to grinding because thats what made me lose interest
oops
it just loses a lot of replayability due to pain of repetive button mashing for lack of better wording
smoky rune
Do you enjoy other Roguelites?
grave nebula
this is the only one that i know of that i play tbh
BAH HUMBUG
The game is super fun, but i just don't see the replayability.
smoky rune
Could just not be your genre
grave nebula
Its onee of those where i love it for a day or two and dont touch it for forever
smoky rune
For me, the replayability is in experimenting with builds. Did you unlock all the weapons and aspects?
manic bobcat
Yeah Roguelite emphasizes replayability, though for some people that just means repetition.
grave nebula
no aspects but it just seems endlessly the same
manic bobcat
To each their own, nothing wrong with that.
grave nebula
idk maybe i havent gotten too far into it to see the differences?
manic bobcat
I do find the aspects fun and different
smoky rune
The fun is in finding different ways to solve the run depending on your constraints
manic bobcat
If you want to try out the aspects just for a "taste" maybe you can ask for save from someone?
smoky rune
I.e. what is given to you in a run
grave nebula
do the decorations do anything?
manic bobcat
Nope xD
grave nebula
or only work orders
livid ingot
Is it just me, or is the final boss more difficult post-patch?
smoky rune
Definitely harder
grave nebula
whats the easiest first heat to add?
manic bobcat
Depends on the weapon tbh
grave nebula
im using fists i think theyre the most fun
manic bobcat
#h1-builds-and-combat can help you more.
warm frigate
I like using the 20% extra mobs one
woven moat
did I miss something in the patch notes about the shield and blocking things?
manic bobcat
There is a new aspect that changes how blocking works
uneven spruce
Anyone have a screenshot of the updated roadmap? Not able to get on the game for a bit
molten drift
The new secret optional Boss fight should maybe give additional 10 gold per heat level added on to primary reward to make it less dumb to do on high heat levels.
sharp sable
that new boss fight with ||Charon|| is tough! but fun and was a cool surprise to run into 🙂
raven wigeon
I feel like each game is supergiant absolutely perfecting something from bastion. Transistor nailed world building and weapon customization, pyre characterization and now hades real time combat.
odd spear
Hey anyone else having a problem with the new Fated Prophecies not showing up at all?
little ridge
How to get the new aspect?
glass bone
How do I unlock the newest aspects for bow and shield?
oh nvm I didnt see the question above
odd spear
@little ridge You gotta get a boon from specific gods and they'll tell you the phrase you'll say the next time you pick that weapon.
manic bobcat
Check the pins in #h1-story-discussion
If we can direct questiona about new aspects to that pin I think it's easier and faster for everyone
brisk trail
Just came back and got a little 3.2mb update, I guess you guys know what was fixed or whatever?
manic bobcat
Just a some bug and crash fixes
brisk trail
Oh okay thanks
manic bobcat
No content changes
hidden talon
when did the blade rift call have its length nerfed?
i havent played since the night night update so it's been a minute btw
frail rapids
sorry if this is the thousandth ask, but does anyone know how to get the latest update on steam? 🔥
JK restarted steam and it popped 
chilly maple
proven flint
For beta players on this patch do we just delete that and just launch the game as normal? Has anyone tried to see if beta progress carried over/could be carried over to the live content?
granite ether
The beta progress should carry over
proven flint
Fantastic! I don't mind repeating, but it's nice not to have to thanks
granite ether
And you shouldn't have to do anything in steam for go back to the patch now it's released
proven flint
I'm an early access from epic, are you aware of anything for that store?
granite ether
I don't use the store much at all, so no unfortunately
proven flint
ah ok
real niche
void vigil
On epic you’ll have to install the update on the normal game and you can uninstall the beta @proven flint
granite ether
All we know is "later this year"
More info will surely be posted in #announcements once we get closer
proven flint
@void vigil oh Thanks! I'm almost done downloading it
grim sun
Serious problem when the update is installed all I see is black screen. I see the cursor and hear the music and somehow I can interact but it is only a black screen.
granite ether
Please post that in #h1-tech-support @grim sun and either Ellis or Gavin will follow up with you
earnest dirge
does anyone else find now that the text has been removed for ruthless reflex and its only a effect its much harder to tell when you did it succesfully?
crisp spruce
hey does anyone know what the new requirement for Atermis' Fully Loaded?
granite ether
Not sure sadly, probably good idea asking in #h1-builds-and-combat ^_^
tall cloak
@crisp spruce if you search for fully loaded Anassi has a simple explanation for it, for reference, this was my last run with that had fully loaded if you need proof he's likely correct https://imgur.com/a/jIHA2n6
oblique quest
hello everyone
dull needle
warm frigate
Where were you supposed to report a bug again?
terse geyser
f10 ingame
deep pivot
Press F10 while inside the game and the bug reporter will show up.
warm frigate
Thanks mate
warm frigate
You can go into #h1-story-discussion and click pinned messages
dusky jackal
thnx ^^
manic bobcat
You get a decent chunk of damage in return.
It's just a different playstyle, which is the purpose of aspects
deep pivot
@eternal tangle #h1-story-discussion or #h1-builds-and-combat for this topic please
eternal tangle
not really, if i wanan that damage i wil ltake the bow whitch is doing exactly the same
sure, sorry
manic bobcat
Moving :3
warm frigate
Why do some artifacts expire (for now..)
minor hornet
man, poor supergiant, I can only imagine how frustrating it is to spend that much time on a beta build and then still be inundated with support requests the day of
narrow hemlock
everyone's rigs and setup are different so tech support is just inevitable. if the beta took care of much of the major issues then it still served its purpose
agile saddle
Wow lots in the update
minor hornet
I was upset I didn't guess the new rail aspect
oblique quest
Charon's new look is great
orchid zealot
who thought giving lernie balls was a good idea
burnt furnace
just downloaded the patch, can't wait to play the new update
sleek shard
First thing I did on the new update is go on a run with hestia, and, even though I can't find changes to it on the patch notes, it feels AWFUL now. It seemed like there's some inconsistent cooldown period between your first shot and your ability to reload now, so I feel like I spent the whole run desperately mashing r3, hoping to get the thing to reload. Before my r3 presses to reloads ratio was like 1.1 to 1, and now it's like 4 to 1
has anyone else experienced this?
near aspen
yoo
anyone have problems with launching the game?
i was in the beta
and since the update came out
i cannot start the game anyone
else having this or?
burnt furnace
I started the game without a problem after updating
and don't have an answer for Foo, went straight to a spear run cause darker thirst
and Flaring Spin is really good ngl
tall cloak
hm, am i remembering it wrong, but you couldn't get hermes in the styx tunnels before, right?
orchid zealot
I think they redid something with hermes, I just got both of his buffs back to back
tall cloak
i appreciate the change if it is
since they turned the hermes slot in styx shop into a chance between his boon and the anvil
alpine mural
Sooo anyone having issues with the shield NOT blocking attacks that are infront of you?
deep pivot
@worldly sierra No spoilers in this channel please!
orchid zealot
no issues with blocking, but noticed they removed the blocked pop up and the effects with it
worldly sierra
Oh, sorry peach
deep pivot
@neon socket Please report that via bug reporter 
worldly sierra
I just figured, it was in the trailer for the update...
tall cloak
they didn't buff poseidon's aid right? the duration seems longer than i remember for normal call
neon socket
ok! 
hallow cargo
are ares boons still useless like they were before blood price?
trim surge
might have to redo boon review
dawn tiger
Before Blood Price? Ares caster builds were insane
dawn tiger
They are still really good now even though dual shot is a duo
You needed literally one thing from him, for his two better builds though
Either blade rift cast then swap out for Artemis trinket at Asphodel or any of the doom curses and then you swap to the Zeus trinket at Asphodel
buoyant merlin
I understand the demos over now. Will my save from it transfer over?
dawn tiger
Like setting the stones in place to fish for duo boons isn’t impossible
And Ares before blood prince has some great ones
Everyone else now has just caught up
trim surge
ares has some terrible ones as well
I don't know if ares scales at all at higher heat
blade rift is all or nothing
either you get all the upgrades and it's strong, or you only have default rift and it's ass
tall cloak
your saves should transfer fine after you update; opt out of the beta if you're still on it and it should initiate the proper update to your game, @buoyant merlin
there doesn't seem to have been any issues reported that i've seen, but if you're worried, you could also back up your saves first
buoyant merlin
backed them up before i tried the demo
dawn tiger
I mean, thats why you use trinkets
novel wasp
the door is a boss
dawn tiger
so you can control to an extent what you get
novel wasp
defeat the door!
urban forum
Did they reduce the spawnrate of boons?
the past few runs i've gotten like 1 boon by the time ive reached the furies
dawn tiger
don't think the patch notes mentioned anything of the sort
sounds like a few bad runs
like tatz said
tall cloak
if you mean the ones that raise the rarity of the boon, they don't increase the chance of running into them
or do you mean god's chosen? that increases the chance of the gold laurel rooms, so if you don't see a boon room you might just need to reroll it
torpid walrus
does this hammer that gives extra damage after blocking even work with beowulf aspect?
orchid zealot
is it intended that the spear traps in elysium all go off at the same time now?
urban forum
na the one that increases the chances of rooms to be poms hammers and boons
torpid walrus
yeah but last time I used it a lot of attacks missed unless you were perfectly positioned
smoky rune
@orchid zealot yes that was a change for this patch
hidden thistle
orchid zealot
hell mode doesn't force the highest heat level anymore?
high island
Correct.
flat vapor
nope
vapid grove
HOLY CRAP NEW UPDATE!!
unkempt stratus
narrow hemlock
check pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion
placid breach
where do i submit bugs found in the game?
chilly stump
You can submit bugs in-game by pressing F10. 👍
manic bobcat
F10 in game :3
cosmic heart
Well I am very impressed by those patch notes 
hoary urchin
Anyone know how to get the boon glacial glare from demeter?
I think it's new, I cant find it on the wiki.
narrow hemlock
didnt even realize theres hardly any wiki edits, thought people would be all over that once beta was officially over
hoary urchin
Thanks, that already helps alot
alpine mural
can double boon rooms have duo boons?
crimson canopy
^Dang that's too bad
worn radish
man this update did something to movement
it feels so awkward now
i used to be able to hold attack button and dash
but now you just kinda stick sometimes
jagged cape
i have no idea where to ask this question but the way it worked in the previous update was like any heat gave new sets of bounties but ios the onl way to get things like tian blood now buying them from charon, fishing, or buying from the merchant in the lounge?
alpine mural
did fully loaded from art get nerfed from +3 to +2 casts?
flat vapor
it says it was nerfed in the patch notes, so yes
raven bluff
hi pals. quick question. With the pact of punishment do i get bountie rewards with no conditions set if you know what i mean? never tried yet
flat vapor
0 heat bounties exist, so yes
vast junco
there is a set of bounty rewards for 0 heat if that's what you're asking
raven bluff
yes that is what i mean. tyty
crimson canopy
Looks like I just unlocked the ||gilded columns|| decoration - anyone know what the trigger was? I'm curious. My guesses are ||beating charon|| or ||buying a bunch which was helped by beating charon||
novel wasp
- The Exalted: increased damage for Brightswords, Greatshields, and Strongbows
oh fug
greg we talked about this
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS
lean plover
Anyone know if they will be raising the price when the game leaves early access?
sinful pine
@lean plover maybe yes maybe no, game is currently going for 20 bucks and judging from previous game prices we could see a 5-10$ price hike , but nothing more than that. Or it could just stay at 20 who knows
but yea, we're looking at 20-30
marble sphinx
Yeah greatshields are kinda nuts again haha
It's generally a not too bad unless you get the sped up ones who can map you with their projectiles
worldly sierra
Practice your runs using stubborn defiance
Once you get used to it, you won't go back
marble sphinx
Did they change stubborn defiance so it procs before non refreshing dds?
worldly sierra
Yes
marble sphinx
Then it's actually really good
Like I'd probably prefer it over the other one since I don't usually lose more than one life to anyone but the last boss
worldly sierra
But in order to obtain those, you must pick them up AFTER using your SD in the chamber
If you try to take last stand and haven't yet used your SD, you don't get the additional revive
marble sphinx
Ah, I was just thinking of the tooth
worldly sierra
Dude... You can reach final boss with up to 4 revives that will regen at 80% if you play your cards right with SD
analog fog
I know this isn't anything wrong with the game, but I tried buying it on the steam store but my card isn't working
novel wasp
and greatshield is that sole reason i dont enjoy timed run anymore when the rng says haha go commit toaster fork heres 50 billion greatshield
you know that one room
you know
worldly sierra
Greatshields aren't a problem, you just need to know how to take them down properly
novel wasp
I know how to take them down properly
marble sphinx
They do take time though
worldly sierra
I've finished heat 32 with fists
analog fog
i really wanted to get this while it was on sale but I can't because by the time i get a replacement card, the sale will have expired
novel wasp
doubt until proven
worldly sierra
Take a look on the right
novel wasp
used, 11
worldly sierra
Take a look on the right
worldly sierra
Look at my highest fist run
novel wasp
also really wanna see how many greatshields have the game reached you
you can just dont turn on timer so sure
worldly sierra
Look at it
novel wasp
I know its 16 mins
novel wasp
sometimes the timed run i met 2 rooms of greatshield
and sometimes i met room after room of them
thats the problem
worldly sierra
Now are you done calling me a liar? Can we get back to the part where it's completely possible? 🤣
novel wasp
Im still calling you a liar
worldly sierra
Lol
novel wasp
for unable to show anything concise aside from "hurr durr you can beat it"
your 32 heat might as well dont have any timer on
a lot of ppl dont like timed run
worldly sierra
You can see I have TD2 activated on it
novel wasp
and its understandable
worldly sierra
Look at the pic
low fiber
i don't want to get involved but there are many examples of people in this server with 32 heat runs with TD2
it's not difficult to find
there's even multiple 40+ heat runs with TD2
and by multiple, I mean all of them
manic bobcat
Eh hem, did someone mention 32 heat run with TD2?
Also this is not the place to discuss this
deep pivot
@worldly sierra #h1-victory-boasting
worldly sierra
It's not boasting. I just want to show someone that TD2 is completely possible despite greatshields
Since he is convinced it is impossible
deep pivot
Despite the channel's name, its purpose is to share Victory screencaps there.
analog fog
is there anything for me to do or am I just screwed and im gonna have to buy it full price?
deep pivot
And to discuss about said run as it's stated in the headline:
Share your victories! Upload your victory screen stats, and talk about those close calls it took to get there! (Victory Screen uploads only please!)
worldly sierra
You can pay via PayPal direct from your bank account @analog fog
That's always an option
analog fog
that's true, ty
worldly sierra
Ok @deep pivot I'll bring other people over to that room to discuss next time they have doubts
calm laurel
What happens if you activate meg's keepsake when you're fighting meg?
manic bobcat
You get a cute voice line
past rune
There's only 2 things I've seen fox call cute, and that's peach (explicitly not nyaa), and this voice line
manic bobcat
Nyaa is cute when she is not jabbing at me. Alas, that happens as often as Hades compliments Zag...
analog fog
tried syncing my bank with paypal and i will still have to wait for about the same amount of time it'd take to replace the card
brisk trail
Do you guys think after v1.0 release and ongoing, releasing DLCs for the game? It has a huge potential of getting like tons of DLCs and or mods if you opt for workshop mods of course, but DLCs will be welcome in the future.
granite ether
No idea thanos
From previous games, they've released the game and moved on to the next project
brisk trail
Yeah I know that but since this game is quite different and lets be honest in terms of depth and quality, and...replayability it has a huge potential, would be a shame, this could be a franchise.
granite ether
Any of their games could hypothetocally be a franchise imo
manic bobcat
Yeah I would love more contents, too. Although not to drinm too much Kool Aid, the SGG games themselves are a franchise to me xD
granite ether
But SG historically haven't gone back to IP's once they're released
brisk trail
Well in my opinion of course, Hades is by far their top game, and it isnt even finished.
manic bobcat
This is the 4th installment in the franchise
brisk trail
Its just that feeling you know, it feels just like when you got Darkest Dungeon or Slay the Spire, a huge hit.
sterile frost
aight all the new blurbs on the keepsakes are cute
granite ether
I know, as much as I'd like ongoing content for years to come SG gotta do what's best for them
brisk trail
Well maybe we could ask the devs if they have any plans for this in the future
sterile frost
and all the new interactables in the House of Hades are precious
granite ether
I mean there is a Q+A coming up soon 
brisk trail
Great, im sure many people will ask about this.
granite ether
Better yet, to ensure it's asked, you can ask :3
brisk trail
If im online and not working I will
Also since when is the game released even in early access?
past mirage
I wonder how Darkest Dungeon 2 will turn out. That aside, I am quite critical of sequelitis in movie franchises. Few sequels live up to their originals, and that ails many games as well. I’m not saying SGG can’t pull it off, but I am always inherently wary of electric boogaloos.
brisk trail
DD2 will just be pure dope, there is no doubt about that
So if I read correctly, it's been two years the game has been releases in EA, would be nice to know how much copies were sold
tiny bobcat
@past mirage definitely a multiplayer experience is coming
narrow hemlock
It's not
check #hades-faq
says there's no plans for multi
Unless you are talking about dd2, in which case that's off topic
deep pivot
If the DD2 discussion continues, yes, you may continue in #off-topic-discussion
Hi Yuki 
hearty torrent
oof, just got into the new update and House Contractor wiki page v3 is uhh, on the way.
Hi Peach
between the new items and the new names for old items, it'll be a whole 'nother trek
jade grove
I haven't played this for a while, but... aww, no Egyptian aspect
Rail aspect looks nuts though.
deep pivot
Ohey Felis, you are back
narrow hemlock
@hearty torrent I was gonna do some editing earlier but I was sleepy and intended to go to sleep and uh. still trying to do that
I'll look and see where you left off later ig
hearty torrent
oh no worries, I know where the files are for the Contractor stuff now
hearty torrent
ah yeah
i swear i read there was a change to a weapon's dmg in the patch though so imma fix that first.
narrow hemlock
I was gonna at least try and get some stuff started since no one really touched any new content stuff but I couldn't focus on it.
jade grove
I've been out of this game for way too long, lmao
I have not played since... wow. I don't think I even have all the fist aspects yet.
tropic onyx
Gaaah, i had almost all the contractor stuff finished, and now there's dozens more!
atomic seal
more mini patch 
past mirage
I'm listening to the spoken patch notes right now. It cracks me up.
full lion
Caught my first Chaos fish tonight. I'm glad I saw it because I was just sorta going through the motions with one of the new aspects & probably would've missed it normally
atomic seal
rip
vapid grove
How do I ||unlock chaos shield again?||
full lion
||It was a Projelly (putting it in spoiler text because I don't know if that counts as a spoiler or not)||
random torrent
Did anyone experience a massive slowdown of performance after the update yesterday? Used to work great, done all the drivers but it still runs so slow it is unplayable...
zealous timber
@random torrent can you let me know what build number shows in-game for you? Is it 31619?
random torrent
Hiya, yes it is 31619
knotty marten
did new shield stop blocking attacks or something?
random torrent
Used to work perfectly until yesterday
knotty marten
I get hit through it constantly today
wait, I realized that you're blocking your back now, not direction you're aiming at
nimble ocean
so it is a bug
knotty marten
what the hell
nimble ocean
or not? lol
past mirage
It appears to be an intentional change that isn't clearly communicated.
It changed mid-beta from regular blocking to what it is now.
fading gazelle
JUST SAW THE TRAILER AND HOLY SHADES I AM HYPED
atomic seal
havent tried shield but the logic of shield blocking your back instead of front feel like bug lol
jade grove
Lmao. I guess it's appropriate I rebound my controls to Super Smash Bros-style inputs for my Switch controller... because they added those fricking hands to Tartarus
Isn't the shield physically on your back there
knotty marten
well, that's a lot of blood wasted
atomic seal
by that logic enemy should get hit if they hit our backs
zealous timber
There are issues with Beowulf's blocking behavior that we hope to fix in an upcoming patch.
rough token
(thank you)
jade grove
...hey, is it a bug or intended that you can get four gods super early on now?
rough token
Not a bug? Just luck I think
jade grove
I've somehow ended up with Zeus, Artemis, Demeter, AND Dionysus, because Demeter's only boon was Rare Crop...
I thought three gods was the softcap before Hermes
hearty torrent
I've managed 4 Olympians in Tartarus in the Nighty Night update
Also @zealous timber, is the Icon for the Infernal Fireplace coming in the next minor patch? It's currently missing as of v0.31619
zealous timber
@hearty torrent Yes, we are planning on adding an icon for the Infernal Fireplace in an upcoming build. It may not be in the next few patches, though.
frozen thorn
quando sai uma traducao para portugues br melhor
random torrent
Just wanted to say thank you for the support I received here. Fixed very quickly and now I can enjoy the game even more. Well done guys!
zealous timber
@random torrent thanks for reporting your issue here!
random torrent
Thanks for fixing them super fast 👍
limpid crown
is the game gonna properly launch this year still?
jade grove
apparently yes.
fading gazelle
V 1.0 HYPE
jade grove
That's the plan.
last jewel
Hello everyone. Since the game's release is so close now, I have one important question: Will you reset our save files and pevious progression in the full release or can we continue from where we left off?
nimble ocean
there is information that there will be no reset
narrow ruin
On that note, (and this is probably a super common question, sorry) will Steam achievements have to be earned from the start of the v.1? Like say one of the achievements is get 10 titan blood. I assume we'll have to get 10 more titan blood despite already having earned that titan blood in the past
last jewel
there is information that there will be no reset
@nimble ocean Thank you so much! I didn't know that before.
void vigil
it might be too early to know if steam achievements will be retroactively unlocked or not 
slim lintel
did the reload mechanic for adamant rail get changed recently?
can't reload instantly anymore
slim lintel
right after shooting
fading gazelle
I mean I wouldn't call it instantly but it seems the same for me
slim lintel
its messing with my aspect of hestia gameplay :(
fading gazelle
I'll have to see this
gray basalt
Works fine for me
slim lintel
i think it wont let me reload during the firing animation
maybe i'm remembering things wrong and it was always like this
fading gazelle
I mean I always stopped shooting to reload
trail jasper
I'm waiting to get Hades either DRM-free or on the Nintendo Switch
trail jasper
For me, my preferred priority of where to get my games is:
- Nintendo Switch
- GOG
- itch.io
- Steam
fading gazelle
Hmm
trail jasper
@fading gazelle It's a long story
fading gazelle
Fair
gray basalt
i keep shooting and can freely reload through
trail jasper
@fading gazelle Do you want me to explain it in a DM?
nimble ocean
i believe there's no point to remove DRM before release
trail jasper
Does Hades have DRM to begin with?
EGS, as far as I know, is DRM-free; only the launcher is needed to update the game
nimble ocean
also, since it's good **old **games, it has to exit ea first
trail jasper
@nimble ocean Not every game on GOG is old; they no longer call themselves "Good Old Games"
nimble ocean
but i will also buy Hades one more time if it will appear there
trail jasper
I'm willing to buy Hades on both PC and Switch, but not on more than one PC store
I'm willing to wait. I have a lot of patience.
nimble ocean
tbh, console releases is higher in my priority as well
trail jasper
It's just that the Nintendo Switch can do what my PC cannot.
nimble ocean
but now it's more a matter of supporting SGG
fading gazelle
The only console that mattered to me was the switch
trail jasper
@fading gazelle Agreed.
fading gazelle
But now with exclusives its hard to play everything 
trail jasper
One will have to make sacrifices.
nimble ocean
that statement needs explanation. my friend thinks about bying switch sometime in the future, when there'll be enough money
trail jasper
also, when there will be enough production
ancient tundra
Hello on this fine day or night of update
trail jasper
@ancient tundra Hello to you, too!
ancient tundra
How is everyone doing?
trail jasper
I'm doing fine!
ancient tundra
I smile every time it gets made so it's a good running joke
rough token
The best part is
trail jasper
I've been playing a lot of Animal Crossing and the Talos Principle on my Nintendo Switch; still waiting for Hades to come to GOG or Switch...
rough token
Right now for me it's both
I haven't gone to sleep yet
But it's starting to get light out
:D
ancient tundra
It should be too much longer, it'll be after 1.0 release for sure
Wow, then it's day and night!
nimble ocean
"it's never morning, till i wake up", as one guy i know used to say
rough token
They've said that they'll discuss consoles when they get closer to full release
ancient tundra
I thought it was "its not tomorrow until I sleep"!
trail jasper
I wake up at 5:00 and go to bed at 20:00 or 21:00.
nimble ocean
and that too
rough token
I've said that word-for-word, stairs
ancient tundra
That sounds like a good schedule
trail jasper
'Tis
ancient tundra
Ahh... the number of all nighters... I know how you feel
rough token
I sleep anywhere between 11 pm and 5 am, and wake up between 6 am and noon
I should probably drop off though, I've got stuff to do tomorrow
Night
ancient tundra
Good night!
trail jasper
Well, anyway, back to playing Animal Crossing. I enjoyed this chat, everybody!
fading gazelle
Good night/day!
void vigil
hey guys, just a small reminder to keep it on topic here, you can discuss sleep schedules and such in #off-topic-discussion 😅
fading gazelle
Oof sorryy
trail jasper
It's 07:40 here in NYC.
trail jasper
@void vigil Sorry!
ancient tundra
He seems like a guy who would be too keyed up to sit still
That's how I feel whenever I play haha
I want to see Zag take a nap tho the man deserves it
hearty torrent
apparently he's constantly unsatiated yet unhungry too, according to a blurb between him and Narrator
ancient tundra
That must be awful
fading gazelle
I mean is it awful for someone who never experiences it?
ancient tundra
True, but it makes me think he's never eaten good food after being hungry
hearty torrent
I think it was-
Narrator: ...the empty-bellied Prince...
Zagreus: I'm just not hungry
ancient tundra
Oh! When he talks to the lounge chef near the beginning of the game?
hearty torrent
He definitely eats his fill of modern junk food during runs though
nimble ocean
he eats pomegranates too
hearty torrent
I think it was a interact point after buying a Lounge decoration? Or just an interact point in the Kitchen.
ancient tundra
Oh wait, he does eat good food!
nimble ocean
also.. how is it called? that food that gives +hp.. it's something greece as well
ancient tundra
He eats something every time he meets the nice tree in Asphodel
nimble ocean
oh.. right
hearty torrent
You're absolutely right. that good "home"-cooking
fading gazelle
How does one bake in hell?
ancient tundra
Zag just isn't eating well I suppose 
Well with the firey waters of the Phlegethon of course!
nimble ocean
other question is how they **store **food in a place where is high heat almost always
ancient tundra
I feel like the nice tree a bit more refined in cooking technique than that, but what do I know I haven't visited the underworld yet
ancient tundra
I'd assume the ingredients usually involve nectar and ambrosia so let's chalk it up to magic preserving food of the gods
hearty torrent
maybe Zag's stomach is emptied whenever he dies and exits the Pool of Styx?
and then he mysteriously doesn't feel hungry because he knows he'll be eating a lot during his next escape?
ancient tundra
All that good food... gone to waste...
viral rover
According to the account as put forth in Stephen Fry's Mythos; nectar is actually just honey, and ambrosia is honey mixed with wine. Honey has a very low water content and a very high sugar content so most bacteria die from osmosis drawing the water out of the cells before honey can spoil
The rest of the food was because the gods just liked eating, not that they needed it. But that's gods for you
desert karma
So guys the tech beta its ended, right? I can uninstall it and reinstall the normal launcher?
ancient tundra
All gods have a sweet tooth confirmed
agile saddle
so i sent in a bug report but has anyone run into a sound bug? all the sudden all sounds Zag made were muffled and cloudy. had to restart game to fix it
like other sounds were normal but dashing/weapon sounds were all muffled. never ran into that one
slim lintel
I've come across that one, forgot what I did to fix it
polar jackal
hey does anyone has a flckiring mouse pointer problem?
feral summit
will the game get updated after 1.0
agile saddle
yeah i haven't played in over a month but this update added quite a bit
had to come back
hearty torrent
@feral summit While there'll likely be additional patches post-v1.0, from what I've heard on this server SGG prefers to leave projects alone once they're deemed complete. So I'd be doubtful of any post v1.0 Updates like Night Night, Blood Price, etc.
brisk trail
Is anyone else getting these weird graphical artifacts when playing? Usually happens when switching chambers. They look kinda like scanlines, and they sometimes show assets that shouldn't be there. Once I've seen Charon's art pop up in for a second in a chamber.
warm roost
so i found a bug but i can't f10 it in time where do i report it beside ingame bug report?
nimble ocean
although you know.. it was a nice experience participating in all that early access.. there was almost a feeling of ongoing project
unfortunately it isn't
feral summit
pepehands
nimble ocean
however, i'm sure lots of people will be glad to buy any kind of dlc if they will ever be made
brisk trail
Once 1.0 is out, are they done except for bug fixes?
final kayak
btw, how's performance on integrated-gpu laptops now? i kept chugging on elysium to the point of needing to enable god mode to compensate in last update
brisk trail
@novel wasp did you fix it by any chance?
nimble ocean
i'll think they will be done. and i'd like to be proved wrong.
final kayak
i heard there were some performance improvements but ya, was curious
brisk trail
I'm getting 44-60 FPS in most chambers now, but it lowers when there are too many effects/enemies on screen
smoky rune
Elysium still doesn't run the best for me in my integrated laptop GPU. My processor power is also below min, so there's that. I lowered my resolution to see if that helps too
Overall, much better performance though
novel wasp
Nope
brisk trail
I'm using an AMD integrated GPU
smoky rune
So there was a lot of optimization in this patch
final kayak
ya, i'm also running on all-low bc my laptop is an office thing from 2016 with an intel hd graphics 520 lol
final kayak
the first area performed perfectly for me last time around, although i was starting to get issues on second area
smoky rune
Oh. My integrated GPU is at least an NVidia. Wow you're really running on integrated graphics
final kayak
hey, now, i played through the previous three supergiant titles on my trashtop without issues lol
(although i admittedly had to run pyre at windowed mode)
smoky rune
Speaking of underpowered systems, think this game could actually run on Switch?
final kayak
i mean, i'm actually an accounting student, so i can't tell ya that
novel wasp
did they buffed sword special damage from 50 to 100
and they keep nerfing spear for doing minimal damage + guan yu too
bruh
zenith rune
wait really, double dmg on sword special
hearty torrent
@novel wasp Sword Special still deals 50 dmg for me. Are you using the new Shattered Shackle?
zenith rune
yeah that seemed strange to me because it wasnt mentioned in the patch notes
zenith rune
no special amping boon too im assuming
did u have a boiling blood, fiery presence, shadow presence etc on when u tested this
zenith rune
oh
novel wasp
myb
zenith rune
it sounded too good to be true
novel wasp
if it is i will be mad
because im fork main and fork just gets so many bat to the knee
zenith rune
ho boy will you be surprised when a certain 4th aspect gets unlocked
novel wasp
yeah lmfao
novel wasp
also
may i say the new artemis chasing arrows feels so weird?
i love the old one more
the new one looks like some hummingbird or something
zenith rune
for the call, cast or support fire
candid pine
I just don't enjoy not having hitstun on rail in general
zenith rune
i dont know
novel wasp
support fire
zenith rune
oh
novel wasp
idk if the call or cast has changed
zenith rune
i didnt even realise it wasnt an arrow
or that it looked any bit different
lucifer with unhealthy fixation is basically a permastun weapon
before that exploding fire used to give the rail exactly what you wanted
but they nerfed it
candid pine
Yeah I know that, that is how I got to 6 heat with it 😂
But not higher
But to get to unhealthy fixation you need to get to get lucky
zenith rune
definately, but i finished 32 heat with the rail because of how busted it is
candid pine
I tried Zeus on it, wasn't anything special
zenith rune
took quite long
candid pine
My highest is 14 or 15 on chaos shield, before nighty night
Haven't played much afterwards
zenith rune
its very different to the other rail aspects
because it ramps up in dmg
so percentage based buffs like aphro are so broken
360 with a full volley becomes 720 simply with an epic heartbreak strike
i enjoy lucifer aspect so much that i dont think ill ever touch another rail aspect
candid pine
Well might be "bad" since it's only unlocked, not leveled?
zenith rune
yeah u need to level it
like how chaos shield isnt as great as the legends say unless it is restored to its prime form
candid pine
Welp, guess I need to farm with fists
narrow ruin
anyone else have all their ranks of fated authority, God's legacy and dark foresight reset?
candid pine
As I haven't touched them
zenith rune
yeah its a bug
narrow ruin
ah
zenith rune
i lost a bit of darkness during beta because of it
narrow ruin
so is it something they'll work on or is it a sunk cost we have to deal with?
candid pine
What do you recomend with zag fists?
hearty torrent
Not a bug, but new changes. They changed the Mirror and should have refunded any spent Darkness.
candid pine
Well guess it's a question for gameplay
zenith rune
hmmm well i cant tell anymore since i lost that bit of darkness like a week or two ago
narrow ruin
yeah I only got around 1000 darkness refunded but I swear I had much more spent on those mirror upgrades
actually I might be going crazy
spice thunder
Why do we see what is clearly sunlight in Styx satyr chambers, but it's always night during the final fight? 🤔
granite ether
it might be a very intense moonlight 🤔
novel wasp
or it might be just an increased amount of L I G H T
spice thunder
You're right, can't be sunlight, otherwise Zag could just jump out one of those holes.
warm hedge
With the new update seeming so big, would people recommend starting a new game or that I keep going from my old save file?
patent topaz
guys guys, did the brightswords' wave attack change? And the greatshields' one also
uneven dagger
hey its just me or the VFX of the Bow and the Rail are gone?
is this a bug?
im confused
patent topaz
now it's not a pink wave anymore, for the swords it's a black arrow on the ground and the shield one is a strange purplish thing
spice thunder
^ for me too, has to be a bug
warm hedge
Ah, screw it I’ll just start over from the start
granite ether
the update is as big as it is because of a large change in the code base
warm hedge
Though I’m kinda worried I’ll miss some meta-stuff I’d see by bringing over an old save haha
uneven dagger
@spice thunder damn
granite ether
so it's really up to you ^_^
willow cedar
Where to report a bug?
warm hedge
I have started over once before and that was a pretty good experience
granite ether
the in game bug reporter (F10) @willow cedar
warm hedge
When Bounties were implemented I felt that was such a significant overhaul to progression I wanted to start from 0
uneven dagger
and my game froze
willow cedar
Copy thanks
uneven dagger
also are you guys also having performance issues? After this update my FPS is definitely not the same
granite ether
no idea, I'm downloading the update right now
harsh onyx
Does Beowulf shield have worse Block timings? I keep taking hits that I swear the normal shield would block.
uneven dagger
its pretty noticeable even in the house of hades @granite ether in my case ofc
warm hedge
I saw a recommendation to ensure you have the newest drivers for your Graphics Card if you’re running into performance issues
uneven dagger
:P
warm hedge
As I understand it, the update should improve performance but relies on those drivers to function
uneven dagger
i have the latest driver for my gpu
warm hedge
But I dunno if that’s your issue or if it’s something else
uneven dagger
gonna doublecheck on the nvidia site
warm hedge
Yeah, then you should check with bugs probably after double-checking your drivers
The tech support place
uneven dagger
yeah just cheked i have the latest drivers
all my other games run fine
also the VFX on the Bow and the Rail are gona for me
gone*
novel wasp
is it just me
warm hedge
Update is supposed to be a performance-improvement so if the opposite is happening something is wrong (probably?) and you should check in with support
novel wasp
or rama bow is more unforgiving in terms of powershot
and i thought im just rusty but i immediately rapid powershot when i switched to the other bows
uneven dagger
@warm hedge did you have performance improvement?
harsh onyx
Okay, just tested it. The Beowulf shield is not blocking while charging/holding bull rush. Is that intended?
warm hedge
I haven’t played that much yet @uneven dagger
granite ether
that sounds like a bug
warm hedge
So far it runs roughly the same for me
polar jackal
i dont seem to see the new prophecies on the list
do i need to wait for a specific line from nyx or something for them to appear?
uneven dagger
^
btw i have a 2070 Super , I7 8700 , SSD and 16GB Ram, so i don't think the performance issues i'm having are related to my pc or my drivers
gonna contact the support after i re-install
lets see how it goes
warm hedge
Wish you luck!
uneven dagger
thanks
harsh onyx
Yeah good luck man, other than a buggy shield my game's been smooth sailing
spice thunder
Just pressed F10 and crashed the game too. Guess bugs aren't so bad if you get used to them, right?
harsh onyx
Bug reporter bugged? What do we do now 
uneven dagger
lmao
past mirage
Post screenshots in #h1-tech-support if possible
red coral
@spice thunder hit alt-tab and see if the bug reporter was brought up behind the game window!
That happens sometimes.
spice thunder
Whoops, already used my Task Manager keepsake.
spice thunder
Alright, thanks!
ionic trail
@harsh onyx If you can't report bugs, the bugs don't exist!
harsh onyx
I wanna use my sweet new viking shield but it turns out a shield that can't block isn't very good 
radiant dune
sneaky patch just came out
smoky rune
They must keep doing little fixes, which is great
safe sand
The new aspect of the shield seemed weak to me. It not only does not block blows, but also adds damage to the character.
And the damage from the run with shield does not compensate for this.
In this game, speed is more important. And while you charge the blow, the enemies will have time to kill you. Accordingly, the damage from a charged attack should be colossal, but it is not.
harsh onyx
Wait, I just reported the no-blocking as a bug, you're saying it's intentional??
marble sphinx
it looks intentional considering the angle at which the shield is held, but apparently a dev said it's not?
harsh onyx
God I hope not
marble sphinx
it does block, but from behind, btw
which, again, matches the angle at which zag holds the shield while charging
fallen wren
There are issues with Beowulf's blocking behavior that we hope to fix in an upcoming patch.
harsh onyx
Hmm, I see
hearty torrent
doot doo doo dooooot 🎺
It only took me 6 hours of scouring the game's code and the in-game menu, but House Contractor's page on wiki is now (mostly) updated to Blood Price!
Blood and darkness, that took too long and I'm still missing content. I'll need to grind lots more gemstones.
safe sand
So is it a bug that it does not block damage?
harsh onyx
What a hero yukine
hearty torrent
Heheh, thank you! I'm gonna take a nap now, but I'll be back to finish editing the new weapon stuff later. Maybe I'll even get enough gemstones to find the stuff I'm missing on Contractor. 
verbal ingot
My chaos boon when poof o.o where'd you go chaos boon
native atlas
who has found the new secret encounter and will answer a question for me in DM?
harsh onyx
If you're referring to the 'mini-boss' I've done it once
So I'd answer a question if I can
native atlas
the patch notes say there's a new boss fight, and 2 mini bosses
marble sphinx
the 2 minibosses are in tartarus
the new boss can be fought in any region except styx
harsh onyx
Ah, my bad on the terminology then. I've done the new boss once and just rolled into it now
proper zodiac
Wait whens the new hades update
Has it already dropped?
native atlas
One other thing, was the ||witches coven|| encounter in asphodel available before? i ran into it today or last night and i wonder how i hadn' seen it
past mirage
That is a new miniboss encounter.
void vigil
yeah, the update dropped yesterday @proper zodiac
vague zinc
Is it just me or was the ground wave projectile from enemies in colosseum changed? They become just wave of pink glow and really hard to see.
*elysium
old tundra
does guan yu spin with athena work now?
sharp parcel
it always worked
old tundra
no, it didnt work during the beta
acoustic saffron
re: the rama comment in #hades-feedback : yeah i basically lost a run b/c i got a daedalus hammer and picked the explosive shot upgrade and it made the charge so slow that it became effectively impossible to ever get a power shot without getting hit during the charge
verbal ingot
Wow I do not like the fists o.o
trim surge
the gem grind is neverending
charon pool is now polluted by even more meta rewards
fishing, gems, random (that can be fishing or gems)
quasi pebble
Hello all. After today's update, I have encountered problems with the stability and smoothness of the game. I did everything as directed and after a few hours the effect is that I have a black screen and the game does not load. Perhaps it is the fault of my weak laptop which has an i3 processor, 3GB of RAM, windows 10. Drivers have been updated.
ebon urchin
So any tips to handle ||Hades|| I'm already have trouble reaching him consistently. He destroys me before even phase 2
fading gazelle
@quasi pebble
I'll go ahead and assume isn't an option
I'd start with reporting it in #h1-tech-support
@ebon urchin Just keep at it my dude
Practice makes perfect
quasi pebble
Thx
last willow
Anyone notice that Kiss of Styx is more rare to show up nowadays? (And yes, I mean with at least 1 death defiance already down)
marble sphinx
there are lots of new charon items, so yeah it'll be rarer
which is a pretty major indirect buff to stubborn defiance, i feel like it's generally the better option now
hybrid citrus
How is stubborn defiance? I've never used it in 50 hours of gameplay. >_>
ebon urchin
Ah the good ol git gud 
hybrid citrus
I really regret spending 5 diamonds on the hall shortcut, it is a huge waste and it looks kinda weird too. 
marble sphinx
i only started using it after this update and....it's actually good i find. i mean for me the only issue i had was wiping 2+ DDs on the final boss
alpine bronze
Hi! is there any way beside the in-game bug reporter to report bugs?
marble sphinx
but otherwise, it's actually really good with, say, the plume, since it means you don't need to play conservatively anymore and can just eat damage without worrying
alpine bronze
it kinda freezes up or smth and takes a long time to send em
hybrid citrus
Hrrrm, I'll give it a shot!
narrow ruin
it was the opposite for me, I used stubborn defiance all this time
only started using DD recently
hybrid citrus
I always found the 3 extra lives to be so extremely helpful.
marble sphinx
you can stack some extra DDs through the tooth and i think chaos boons
narrow ruin
cause i thought 2 DDs was the max
native lava
i believe the tooth doesnt count as a dd
marble sphinx
the new hermes boon means that plume can also be pierced butterfly, which is kinda nuts
native lava
i might be wrong
alpine bronze
new hermes boon? 👀
marble sphinx
@native lava it don't think it counts as for DD-related boons, but it is a DD in the sense that it saves you from death
@alpine bronze adds damage based on extra move speed you have
devout bridge
Yes, there is a new hermes boon that gives dmg+ based on increased movement speed
marble sphinx
at legendary it's 100%, heroic it's 125%
alpine bronze
oh damn that's amazing
that really defeats the purpose of the pierced butterfly yeah
marble sphinx
the per-encounter stacking on plume is still weaker than butterfly rhough
alpine bronze
it's much easier to be fast than to be perfect
marble sphinx
and you have to rely on a specific boon to make it work
alpine bronze
true
marble sphinx
but between the damage and the dodge, having both seems flat out better than butterfly
narrow ruin
How do you get increased movement speed other than chaos and Hermes himself?
alpine bronze
yeah i'm probably not gonna pick the butterfly again any time soon
i don't think there's any way besides the plum, chaos and hermes
devout bridge
True facts. I found it difficult to keep my plume rolling along after Asphodel. But if you are careful you can get butterfly proc on almost every encounter
alpine bronze
and items
marble sphinx
@narrow ruin those 2 and the lambent plume. i think one of the zagreus aspects also has extra move speed?
alpine bronze
from charon's well
marble sphinx
oh yeah charon
alpine bronze
i think it's extra attack speed but i have no idea
devout bridge
On stygius? should be move speed and dash distance
marble sphinx
i know fists has extra aspd, i could have sworn there was a move speed one in there as well
alpine bronze
oh yeah
marble sphinx
yeah, stygius
devout bridge
Fists is atk speed and dodge %
alpine bronze
yeah i mixed em up
marble sphinx
so they're both actually really good with plume actually
native lava
mmm that sounds like a nice build, ill try it sometime
alpine bronze
it's really easy to get 100% dodge with plume, malphon, a lucky boon and the dash
although
i'm not sure the dash's working anymore?
marble sphinx
it caps i think
harsh onyx
What're the odds we ever get an option to have Skelly spar with us? I'd love to have an option to practice dodging
alpine bronze
skelly is too powerful
devout bridge
I had a hilarious build with Max fists (15% dodge), Plume (~20% dodge by the end), and Hermes dodge boons (25%base + dodge after using call)
alpine bronze
you would not dodge.
harsh onyx
Finicking around with various i-frame windows is easily the most frustrating part of this game for me
native lava
thats a nice idea @harsh onyx , you should write it in #hades-feedback
marble sphinx
the thing with plume is that with a decent build it's possible to get stacks everywhere except asphodel without too much trouble
harsh onyx
thx, couldn't hurt I guess
native lava
🙂
anyways, i have a question folxs: will u start a new savegame for the full release?? i mean, we need more info, but still idk if its a good idea
what r ur thoughts bout it??
sleek shard
depends on how big the patch is, but it'd be good opportunity to use hell mode
hybrid citrus
I probably won't, way too much lost progress. ;_;
marble sphinx
i'll start a second save probably
native lava
i think im w/ @marble sphinx in this one, but i prolly wont come back to my first save, i dont replay games usually (or at least i dont do it after finishing it 4 the first time)
old tundra
anyone knows if guan yu spin works with athena now?
devout bridge
I'm on the side that it may be a good opportunity to push yourself and use Hell Mode, but I don't think I will make a new, clean, normal save.
@old tundra In my last runs with it, Athena does work with spear spin, but it was a little inconsistent sometimes. Seemed like the deflect was from the inner center of the spin, and not the edges.
old tundra
ah, thanks for the answer
desert karma
hey guys what's the diff between normal and hell mode?
devout bridge
Hell mode can be selected when you start a new save file. It disables God Mode, and Zag starts out the gate with the pact of punishment at 5. Then every time you complete a run with a weapon, the pact forces you to go to the next heat level if you want to use that weapon again.
vocal thorn
It doesn’t force you anymore
floral shore
That last part got patched out.
vocal thorn
The main difference is no auto shield when you take lots of damage, and 4 other heat points are locked in permanently
devout bridge
Oh I didnt realize that. Sorry for the misinformation.
floral shore
The change came yesterday, I think you can be forgiven for missing that in the mountain that was this round's patch notes.
dull needle
@vague zinc its bug. And i reported it too, F10
patent topaz
i also reported it, also the brightswords wave attack is just a black triangle on the ground
dull needle
and got bug with settings. They now always reset themself
mighty axle
Yo guys. Does the Beowulf aspect not block attacks when charging?
uneven dagger
apparently its a bug
btw, are the VFX of the Rail and the Bow missing for you guys too?
wraith thunder
quick question ; how do i get the game to actually change resolution rather than just downscaling from native
fiery pebble
Was a lot of story content added with this update?
gaunt ridge
is it just me or the wave projectile stuff changed visually?
gaunt ridge
I only see the lighting on the ground
sage marten
That sounds like a bug
gaunt ridge
:/
marble sphinx
there are smaller wave projectiles, but also some of them seem bugged
crimson canopy
@fiery pebble yes if you count more/deeper interactions with the general pantheon, not so much "main" story stuff AFAIK
molten ledge
can anyone tell me how i can use my ambrosia?
ive gotten people to 5 hearts, with the next one showing a lock but then i cant offer anything anymore
wraith steppe
Does the Beowolf shield block?
boreal fiber
is it intended that chimaera jerky only buffs the base damage from the special but not for example zeus' bolts caused by the special?
lavish locust
@molten ledge you'll unlock it eventually after talking to them more, usually there's a bit of a storyline that will unfold before you can give ambrosias, for some characters it might take a few more runs before they give you the specific prompt
dawn tiger
I think so, the Zeus attack and special while functionally very similar to Artemis or Athena are more like Dionysus or Ares
In that they create another instance of damage
Rather than mod the base attack with a %+ boost and a modifier
@boreal fiber
trim surge
it's intended but at the same time makes zeus on slow attacks abysmal
flat values as opposed to % is either great or worthless depending on weapon
molten ledge
@lavish locust Awesome, thanks that's all I needed to know.
lavish locust
np, good luck
worldly sierra
To anyone having performance issues after the update...
I remembered I had flipped the Hades exe to windows 7 compatibility mode before the beta, and once I removed that it ran beautifully again.
May want to check just in case you were tinkering with your settings a while back, trying to get it to run better prior to this update.
last willow
Any idea why Adamant Rail's Q (Special) sometimes gets redirected out of the blue?
past mirage
Deflection off obstacles like walls
flat vapor
might be hitting a pillar or wall
wind nest
Write a bug report. I’m pretty sure most enemies don’t function as an obstacle
lofty lodge
Just bought the game on Steam. I think the library image needs to be updated...
https://i.imgur.com/ulNBrzd.png
Though weirdly that image doesn't show on the SteamDB info for the game, so maybe my client cached this image from ages ago? 🤔
https://steamdb.info/app/1145360/info/
narrow hemlock
It doesn't appear that way in library once it's updated