Well, ||Not counting Sandra sadistic lessons||
#supergiant-games
tulip mauve
devout otter
oh yeah, having an action/challenge oriented game with plot and character that also doesn't have game overs does some incredibly unique stuff to pacing.
almost makes up for ||the one thousand critical hit artemis arrows that go straight through your heart when jodariel turns down your love confessions||
short nebula
Yeah, what's up with protagonists getting rejected around here? We're not here for that, we get rejected plenty in real life, thanks
flint plume
short nebula
@devout otter But hey, ||at least you get to keep the beyonder crystal.||
cobalt gust
||blind orb ghost gf||
solemn vessel
wait u can confess to jodi?
untold cove
You sort of can
celest holly
Guys, huge fan of supergiant, does anyone know if they all work from an office, or work remotely?
untold cove
They do have an office, but they're working remote nowadays
celest holly
@untold cove Thanks! Is there anything online that talks about how they're working remotely (methods, tools etc)?
atomic flicker
Hey liquid! Looking for some tips or trying to mine trade secrets? 😄
(Either way, shoot me a DM and I'll be happy to try and answer some questions!)
cosmic storm
Well, I bought bastion and transistor on the switch even though I already own it on the ps4! No regrets! (Oh jeez, everyone saw the typo. Act cool)
azure prawn
Btw. About the switch. Most of consoles choose a language based on OS language. That probably caused that i can't play Transistor and Bastion in Polish. (Switch is like : we don't support polish, but we have polish ad, and we sell it here - - weird)
I played both these games Transistor on PC with polish lanagage but can not on Switch as I can't select language.
Or it just doesn't support it here?
edit : Looks like I played Bastion with a community translation.
celest holly
@prisma hamlet I'll shoot you a DM!! Thank you!! 🙂
short nebula
@cosmic storm I didn't notice the typo. Did you pull a "No regerts?"
cosmic storm
Hehehe no no (phew!)
brittle orbit
I saw it but assumed you meant something along the lines of what you ended up editing to haha
vale leaf
I'm curious on to how 5 designers and 1 art director in the Supergiant team can work with each other cohesively
my current project only has 2 artists and they're polar opposites in terms of style and approach and we're having a hard time finding middle ground
said artists flaking out of the project is a different discussion though i suppose
azure prawn
I believe that each of designers on SGG doing different job
3d, animations, sketches etc
dreamy saddle
What's your current project?
outer siren
is there a place or a person i can, just once only, send a fun little thing I found some one write about Hades and Persephone?
vale leaf
@dreamy saddle an isometric detective game set in our own representation of the Victorian era based on folklore monsters
would be a sort of decent way to condense the idea in 1 sentence
dreamy saddle
That sounds awesome!
stone relic
how about steampunk/gaslamp fantasy rather than victorian era?
rancid relic
How about it
flint plume
cygnus, that sounds pretty cool
solemn pivot
vale leaf
Ty all on the positive feedback, but the progress is at a snail's pace
What's gaslamp fantasy? Gonna look into that
Yea seems more or less in line with what we're working on
I'd like to set track for monthly/weekly devlog updates to generate interest and start creating a community around the game but
river portal
gaslamp fantasy is set in an era that is pre-electricity but post-industralization
when streets are still illuminated by gas-fueled lights
vale leaf
Last group VC meeting was last week and I'm the only one constantly trying to pump out world building and stuff
Yea that's what we're in for sol ty
river portal
just trying to make sure, sorry for being redundant about it
vale leaf
Nah it's ok
We only have our discord server up for now, I can throw a link in #self-promotion for those that are interested
Even then, there isn't anything worthy to post update wise, so hard to build hype
night turret
@cursive galleon I sent you guys an email on the 20th, just wanted to be sure you guys didn't miss it
(I don't expect you to respond to it soon I just want to make sure it didn't get lost in spam filters or something)
It was titled "Inquiry for Amir / engineering about lua hooks in Hades"
cursive galleon
@night turret Hey I see your note and think I can briefly answer your question, at least to your specific example.
In RoomManager.lua there is a line that says
Import "Combat.lua"
If you don't want to use Combat.lua for some reason and want to define your own functions, you can import some other .lua file instead (they are just text files so you can make one based on a copy of an existing one). Of course the game will not function if you remove reference to Combat.lua and don't replace its functionality. But per your example I believe you could delete the function from Combat.lua and define another one in your file.
Otherwise, we appreciate your patience on this. As previously stated we cannot officially support modding efforts. We receive lots of emails each day, and while we read them all, we are a small team and cannot always reply to them all, as our first priority is to our team and projects. Thank you for your understanding.
night turret
That will work for one mod for one specific update of the game, but if the game updates and new functionality is added to combat.lua the mod would have to update to match, and it would not be possible to have more than one mod that relies on editing combat.lua if we are swapping out base files.
thanks for replying
my goal is to create a method of modding that is stable wrt to indirectly clashing updates and permits multiple mods accessing the same parts of the code when indirectly clashing
It seems without hook/event behaviour being changed it's not possible
night turret
@untold cove this also applies to pyre but because pyre doesn't update anymore you can develop a framework that every mod agrees to use that edits the source files to replace every hook with an outside-editable function
untold cove
The functions are already outside-editable by anyone with a text editor, since they're all just uncompiled lua scripts
astral totem
Will SuperGiant Games be part of Stay Safe Jam games?
night turret
outside-editable means all the possible changes implemented by a mod can be implemented by a package loaded externally
not that you can change the interpreted source, of course we can, but that means it's really hard to have more than one mod at the same time
@untold cove and hooks (and all local functions) are not outside-editable in this sense because they cannot be deleted or replaced by loading a package
in pyre's case since the source is static you could just use diff merging like witcher 3
you can load the entire base file, but considering an entire file a behaviour rather than all the sub-functions is exactly what causes conflicts that makes hades modding so annoying
hidden wren
Joined this server just to say that i absolutely love this game. Bought it a week ago and already put 50 hours in, also purchased a copy for my brother. Thank you supergiant games, your team is amazing at crafting highly entertaining games that are just fun to play. Also didn't know where else to put this, so i put it here. Keep up the great work! EDIT: yes this is about hades, but i have played all the others. OOPS
willow pasture
hehe, seems hard to sink 50 hrs into the other games
flint plume
i dunno, i have 78 hours in pyre
hidden wren
FIXED
distant coral
ye im like 48 hrs into pyre and 61 hrs into transistor
olive hull
i do have 100 hours on transistor, 84 on pyre and 44 on bastion... but I have 150+ on hades on EGS and steam combined, so
velvet tide
pyre was my most played game till hades blew it out of the water lolol
grizzled torrent
what the heck how do you guys have so many hours on transistor
dreamy saddle
I have 0 in Bastion and Transistor, 100+ in Hades and I think I'm approaching 20 in Pyre now.
I'm working backwards
slow otter
I honestly can't fight such numbers tbh
since I can't bring myself to replay the games and let characters re-experience that.
distant coral
valid
but i love supergiant games so much i can't not replay them once in a little bit
dreamy saddle
I'm not much of a game replayer either, unless it's been like 5, or 10, years.
I just have such a huge catalogue and I like to go back to things when time has successfully drained my recollection of them.
distant coral
to be fair i have adhd and im currently hyperfixating on SG
slow otter
only game that I can religiously replay is probably Portal 2 co-op mode since it's always fresh experience to fool around with new friend each time.
dreamy saddle
I suppose I've replayed some games right away with their NG+ features but I just count that as a single sessions, really.
I'm trying to think of what I've replayed the most.
Probably TES IV: Oblivion or something like that.
The Golden Sun games, some Pokemon titles.
flint plume
yeah i have adhd as well and sometimes you just need to replay your favorite games
you know what i should replay? bastion
slow otter
and so, 8 hours were added to bastion's playtime.
olive hull
I love transistor a lot :’(( I used to replay it pretty often and I also did everything possible I could think about (like filled out every function combination in one save slot)
I stopped at 100 hours because it’s a nice number but then hades came along and being a roguelite it’s obviously very replayable and has the most amount of content out of all of them, and it’s not even finished yet
vale leaf
yea i'm not one for replaying games right after as well, although i'm getting a very strong itch to just replay pyre on true nightwing silent reader lose all liberation rites run
brittle orbit
I think WoW (followed by Minecraft) will hold the spot of largest number of hours played for the rest of my life lol... but discounting those... maybe hades would take it
dreamy saddle
I have a lot of hours in the Borderlands games.
Well, mainly in 2.
The Witcher 3 I've pumped a lot into
short tundra
i have like 400 hrs in final fantasy tactics a2
cobalt gust
I have like 350 hours in xcom 2 and haven't even finished war of the chosen despite owning it for 200 of that
vale leaf
supergiant q&a today 
whole mirage
1 PM EST right
atomic flicker
1pm EST is correct! 10am PST.
unique cypress
so where does one go to submit questions for that?
grizzled torrent
atomic flicker
Question submission will open at 10 AM PST (less than 15 minutes from now!) over in #ask-supergiant. We'll be accepting questions there for about ten minutes, and then we'll start posting up answers. 👍
unique cypress
ok cool thank you!!
earnest parrot
poggu
grizzled torrent
lmao @haughty haven the fastest draw in the west
vale leaf
did the qa already close?
grizzled torrent
yup
vale leaf
I was still writing my questions...
this is dumb
i didn't know it was that shortof a timeframe
grizzled torrent
I mean they give the announcement an hour before. You can write your questions down then, like I did
neon kayak
They said ten minutes.
whole mirage
That was fast
vale leaf
...
unique cypress
they gotta keep it limited just bc of the sheer volume of questions i guess
flint plume
you've gotta copy + paste, lmao
vale leaf
see you in a month i guess
minor path
my guy did you see how fast the chat was going
vale leaf
y e s
whole mirage
I had 5 prepared before the thing started
vale leaf
i had my questions prepared but more came up in my head
whole mirage
I asked a bunch
grizzled torrent
Just pretend you sent them, but they didn't get picked
whole mirage
I hope they answer what their favorite Hades waifu or husbando is
vale leaf
i wanted to ask darren on how he starts composing for a new game
and greg on like, too many writing related questions
specifically writer's block
sturdy oasis
if it’s any consolation, you should definitely check out the no clip developing hell series!
sturdy oasis
they have a whole music and art episode
atomic flicker
Hey folks! For a heads up: it's always been 10 minutes for question submission - we just have to be a bit more strict about it because of volume. 😄
This will not be our last Q&A! Worry not. 
vale leaf
should've been more prepared i guess
grizzled torrent
Man, Caitlin's the best
whole mirage
If they respond to me I will eat my sock
hallow bronze
Better get ready then 😆
whole mirage
I’m super unlucky
Lots of my questions are at the top so they’re less likely to see
flint plume
hahah, right
distant coral
uh
prob the last update to hades
vale leaf
i need to know my timescope for question preparing
minor path
the last one was in january!
slow otter
yeah yeah
minor path
at the very end of january, in fact
flint plume
i think 1/update, roughly
distant coral
oh wow
it feels to much longer than that
slow otter
I guess February was busy month for them
whole mirage
Was I supposed to ask a specific person
remote dust
How do you ask a question? 0n0
whole mirage
Time is up
distant coral
yea
they give like 10 mins to ask
remote dust
lyric shuttle
You mean we don't get to befriend the Fury that is constantly accusing us of being a murderer? Whaaaat?
whole mirage
I wonder what the chances are of them responding to none of mine
distant coral
idk
it could happen
haughty haven
theseus, alecto, and tisiphone maintaining purely antagonistic roles makes sense, but asterius is friend material for sure
spring quartz
need to keep the ask open longer or announce it days before. ive missed it twice now and its kinda infuriating
river portal
it's still going on (the answering part, at least)
atomic flicker
Hey @spring quartz ! We announce the Q&A early in our Supergiant Blast! newsletters that we release around update days. You can sign up for that here so you don't miss any more: www.supergiantgames.com/join
young cairn
Oh my god please someone do art of everyone at karaoke
whole mirage
I have given up hope of getting my thing answered
spring quartz
ty
@atomic flicker do you kow if anyone seen the bug post (i sent it in) about the screen movement not working after comming back from dying?
camera movement*
whole mirage
Rip
slow otter
no sock eating today.
grave island
@spring quartz We see all the bugs that are sent in with F10 - I can check up on it if you'd like
How long ago did you submit it?
grave island
A month! Alright
Did you include a name or anything that would be easier to find? If it was recent I could just flip through but we get a lot of bug reports
It's also possible you ran into one of two known issues; if you died at the same time as ||Hades|| during his boss fight, that can disable controls when you return to the House, but it was fixed by closing out of the game and starting back up, and should no longer occur in the game as of the most recent patch to version 27191. If the camera stayed zoomed in when you used Greater Call and a Summon at the same time, that's another issue we're aware of and looking into.
haughty haven
i'll never know what SGG is thinking/feeling wrt endless/survival type game modes in Hades :rip:
wispy fable
that spreadsheet character tracker is a really good idea ✍️
tired ravine
The videos of NoClip about your games are Beautiful 😍 i love your work guys
cobalt gust
it has been 6 hours and I finally got the joke behind orpheus singing "don't look back in anger" 😔
distant coral
OOF
short tundra
bastion is super cheap rn
highly recommend playing it if you havent already
the soundtrack is also super cheap, which i also highly recommend
flint plume
the bastion soundtrack SLAPS
languid needle
I just recently got Hades first supergiant game. Loving it. Thinking of trying their other games on ps4. What should I go for? Bastion or Transistor? I like engaging repayable content
What should I go for first*
weary quarry
@languid needle I'd go for Bastion, as it's a really similar experience to Hades in my opinion, with amazing soundtrack and some replayability - it should took you around 10-14 hours to complete the game for the first time. Then you have Score Attack Mode if you want, however, the story and gameplay remains the same, you can just repeat each area as many times you want and get the best score. There's also NG+, which is starting from the start, but with all the experience and other stuff you unlocked in your previous gameplay. If it weren't for Hades, which I'm absolutely hyped about, I would play it now some more, just to try different weapon combinations and to once again dive into the great world Supergiants created.
As far as I know, Transistor provides much deeper story and to enjoy it all you could play it several times and you should still enjoy it (I didn't finish it yet though, as I didn't like the gameplay mechanics that much, but as with Bastion - story and music are great!).
Didn't try Pyre yet.
Hades is surely the most replayable game from Supergiants, you can easily sink 170 hours into it and still enjoy it (as I'm doing at the moment) so keep that in mind, when trying their other games.
languid needle
Oh nice. Cool. Nah. Hades is great and dont expect the same for others. Just looking for other indie type games to dig in
Yea will try out Bastion! Cheers
fleet bolt
I second that Bastion would be the closest thing to Hades in gameplay
proven furnace
Has SG said anything about Switch ports of Pyre and Hades?
dim locust
I believe the reason the next Hades update is taking a while is that the devs are overhauling the game’s engine for future cross-compatibility but I haven’t seen any exact dates for ports whatsoever.
stone relic
hades is still in development so there's a chance it'll happen after full release
astral hull
Will Hades ever come to other platforms?
We expect to bring Hades to a variety of other platforms once Early Access is complete. We haven't decided on all the platforms yet.
proven furnace
Thanks
supple terrace
New on this server, just wanted to give a big hug to @cursive galleon and the rest of the team for making amazing games that really resonates with me (and many others). Hope that you are doing well in these strange times and know that your work is making a difference to tons of people! All the love! ❤️
silk narwhal
Thank you for bringing me joy with your games! I really love Transistor and Hades, and i keep wondering what game would be next and once more, thank you Supergiant Games!
cosmic storm
Well, my bday is tomorrow and I'm just stuck at home. Yayyyyyy.....
vale leaf
at home birthdays can be fun though
order your favourite food, rent that movie you've been wanting to watch, splurge on that new game release you wouldn't get otherwise
spend the entire day doing nothing productive and spoil yourself
cosmic storm
I do that anyway lol I'm just saying, with this whole.....situation...my family can't even come over
stone relic
One of my friends was hoping to go to a cat cafe with everyone for her birthday until all this stuff happened
We've decided to have an online movie party instead since we can't go
minor path
that still works!
stone relic
Wait this isn't #off-topic-discussion
minor path
.....you right
stone relic
Lol
minor path
quickly, if we run then the other mods won't know which one of us it was 💨
(this is a joke that will absolutely not make sense tomorrow but oh well)
distant coral
how are yall doing today
short tundra
woke up at 5 am bc my body just does that now
azure prawn
**Bastion **and **Transistor **for 2/3$ on Switch in EU
distant coral
oh wow
is it only EU?
azure prawn
for now yes, its new sale with 300+ items, it usually 3 days late or 3 days before USA
So i can guess it will be in USA in ~~monday
distant coral
awesome
its usually $15 so im definitely gonna take that opprotunity to get it
azure prawn
for sure! its must have game on Switch
distant coral
yea
i have transistor
if pyre and hades come out on switch im definitly getting it but i have my doubts about porting pyre to switch
azure prawn
yeach, that true, Pyre is great, but its whole different word of gaming
Hope for Hades too, I got the game 1y ago and if it will comes to switch its pre-order for me.
it can be 540p but 60fps must be. I think its more than possible
distant coral
nice
i waiting for the full release of Hades
distant coral
fjkdfjkldsfklsdafkldas;
I LOVE THAT
azure prawn
custom painted 4months ago
distant coral
i thought that was a sticker
azure prawn
It's not, I laser cutted pattern and then painted it
distant coral
now that im looking at it
yea its definitely painted 10000/10
amazing
azure prawn
I learned from this, cuz the pattern had rly good glue, and when i took it off i had to clean it, and destroyed the painting a bit. If I will ever do it again, I will definitely wait more than 12h before i took off the pattern. or will use some kind of heater before.
faint tusk
wooooah that looks awesome!
silk narwhal
Amazing
lime basin
I played Bastion a long time ago and recently I am hooked on Hades. Should I play Transistor or Pyre next?
distant coral
Pyre
mellow isle
astral hull
transistor is a shorter experience and more similar to bastion
pyre is longer and is very much a far different experience than any other sgg game
i recommend transistor first tbh
river portal
thematically, pyre is closer; gameplay-wise, transistor is closer
astral hull
it’s shorter and you get to see sgg games chronologically
neon kayak
It's worth noting that SGG devs have gone on the record that all of their previous games feed into the following game.
Pyre really opened up the cast and Hades is a direct continuation of that.
river portal
good point
clever dew
My fave is Pyre but I'd say Transistor first for that sense of progression and also it's shorter
eternal hedge
@lime basin both. Transistor first and then Pyre
They all are different expériences anyone can enjoy
They're is no best or anything. It's only great games with great gameplays
plain seal
Hello!
stone relic
👋
plain seal
:^)
calm totem
I bought Bastion and Transistor on switch
I couldn't resist having both for only 6 euros on my switch
I don't regret a damn thing
azure prawn
Its a must have on switch huh
blissful ridge
portability is always nice ¯_(ツ)_/¯
dreamy saddle
Are they on Switch for that price in NA yet
cobalt gust
don't know, nintendo seems to hate giving NA sales 😔
analog hazel
I hope Pyre and Hades eventually make it to the switch as well
faint moth
I don't think so Crail
plush anvil
Aw Pyre is not on sale
But I went and watched the trailer and now I definitely want it
Wow
That looks so pretty and up my alley
steel nimbus
I bought Hades during the Pyre combo, in the Welcome To Hell update
steel nimbus
Haven't played it that much but it is really cool
plush anvil
The second it turned out to have this exile vagabond aesthetic and stained glass windows i was so sold
dim locust
Same here got Pyre during the bundle, but I haven’t tried it out yet.
neon kayak
I think Pyre is SGG's best game.
night turret
I don't but its definitely the easiest to mod
best codebase, and I guess that's given due to it being latest
ah I misread that I'm a fool
HADES is the easiest to mod
and pyre is their best game in terms of world
ever since hades came out I've routinely confused the names
I don't even know how that's possible considering they are not in any way similarly named
clever dew
Something something underworld? 
flint plume
two most recent things 
night turret
hades has the best gameplay but I think bastion and transistor at this stage are far more cohesive in terms of how the gameplay and story interact.
Hades lets things happen on timers and by chance which frustrates me much more than anything else
I'd much prefer if the game took place over exactly one run and the tower was just a lot bigger
but, that betrays the genre so... idk
I'll probably never truly enjoy the sports-game kind of thing going on in pyre
night turret
I enjoy the game in totality yeah
more than hades
but the specific rites, not so much, never been a fan of that genre
it'd be better for my tastes if the rites were pure bloodsport (that doesn't end up actually killing the other team)
the world wouldn't need to change at all basically
though one would have to invent some new use for the actual word "pyre"
flint plume
i personally think the sports game gameplay has a lot of charm
flint plume
but to each their own
velvet tide
i would not want violence in the rites aww
night turret
^ people already get banished by spells
that's what I mean, essentially
more varied spells, bigger arenas, varied squad numbers, that kind of thing
cobalt gust
yeah a bit more variety would be nice
I like the limit of 3 people but near the later half the rites start to feel samey
flint plume
that's mostly because you keep losing exiles
neon kayak
Hello everyone!
I'm new here, but not new to playing Hades, already got 99 escape attempts in!
stone relic
👋
soft wolf
In a hilarious turn of events, i never realized that i got a free copy of Pyre when i bought Hades, and found it last night in my steam inventory. I finished it in one sitting lmao
most emotional game of land hockey ive ever played
loud perch
right? its just amazing and I loved every minute of it, even when I was pulling my hair out trying to get peeps out
I couldn't let anyone win, I lost the first match against the dogos and felt so bad about it
compact furnace
is there no hades channel?
just wanted to boast about my run
oh
wait
im a doodyhead
obsidian socket
Like 10 hades channels
tulip mauve
12, to be exact, although some are not used
zealous barn
to pull the topic out of #pyre, the classic trolley problem: you can save the five people, but then the burning trolley destroys the elusive SGG artbook... https://i.imgur.com/FqyatIk.png
astral hull
the five people are the camerata + manley, so it's fine
lime quarry
can't the artbook be digitalised
river portal
if the wheels still work then the trolley's lower part isn't hot enough to spread fire to the artbook yet, just let it run over the artbook, the inside of said artbook should be fine
cobalt gust
but the cover was probably gorgeous
I say we run over the people, Pyre has taught me that vehicular manslaughter is a myth
short tundra
i really loved just smashing my wagon into the other wagons
untold cove
Why are there so many mods now??
All the usual suspects around here are turning purple
river portal
who
atomic flicker
Only a few!! Babs, Peach, and Aggy joined today. 😄
wraith pulsar
wish i could smash my wagon into the chastity enough to bring it down tbh
if there's one person i won't stand for being freed it's manley
flint plume
hard same
vale leaf
the one from the withdrawn was just annoying a bit as well
and like, doesn't give you any reason to sympathize with her/incentive to let her free
wraith pulsar
udmildhe didn't deserve her freedom, but I went out of my way to make her time in the downside worse
neon kayak
||Breaking her spirit in that late-game match|| just seemed like the smart thing to do. If someone's ||trying to revive a Cthulhu-like, you don't just let them.||
wraith pulsar
Exactly haha
Man, Pyre was just an experience
I really thought ||you'd get the chance to free everyone...and then the Rites start ending, and you can't free everyone. The later in the game I got and the smaller the Nightwings became, the more it started hitting me.||
cobalt gust
manley is one of my favorite characters, but I'm a sucker for pompous noble jerkwad types
still didn't let him return free though
wraith pulsar
Never to Return is such a powerful song
even if I've heard it like 7 times
At minimum
distant coral
i mean to be fair it’s a different one depending on who you are fighting
zealous barn
@wraith pulsar Oh god lol, for most of the game I thought ||that when the revolution works out everyone from the Downside can come back to the ex-Commonwealth|| and then the ending happened and I was like NotLikeThis
loud perch
is there anyway to listen to the different versions of the songs? especially the version of the end song that you got
astral hull
Which songs? For Never to Return, SGG released an album called The Black Mandolin which has all the other versions on it
For Bound Together, I don't think there's any program/site that can put together individual verses, but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpesm8klRpA
This channel uploaded a few Bound Togethers based on gender and ||either all ascending or all staying||
loud perch
yeah bound together. I would like to get the one I got in my play through
astral hull
these were ripped from the game files by the channel, but trying to put together a specific BT would require ripping each verse manually
loud perch
damn. shame there is no way to get your version
wraith pulsar
@wraith pulsar Oh god lol, for most of the game I thought ||that when the revolution works out everyone from the Downside can come back to the ex-Commonwealth|| and then the ending happened and I was like NotLikeThis
@zealous barn honestly even before ||la revolucion I just didn't expect the rites to end like they did, or at least they'd give me enough chances to get everyone out, but then i hoped that the revolution would bring us all back...and at the last rite i realized that wasn't gonna happen, and i made sure i got hedwyn out before that happened.||
river portal
||yet trade between the two is implied to be more frequent, so downside may eventually grow cities much like commonwealth with time||
ah wait a minute
tulip mauve
||Hopefully the Downside habitants end slowly shrinking in population as nobody deserves to be born there||
neon kayak
Was hoping to add a suggestion for Hades but am unable to message in the channel. Haven't been able to find a list that shows how to enable messaging.
Ah nvm. I took it upon myself to actually read the messages in the channel and now see why
clever dew
||Huh. The gameplay necessities of having a full triumvirate tonplay with made me do the math and guess the number of remaining Rites pretty accurately, as soon as they started talking about the Rites ending..||
||About the Downside, I like to picture this slowly shrinking inhabitants banding up and laying the foundation of a better society for themselves, and slowly going extinct, and several hundred years in the future when this cycle, too, will begin to corrupt, and people will be sent there again, they'll find the ruins of their cities.. ||
untold cove
||But the slugfolk
and the Imps were already native there, so there'll always be some sort of society down there||
clever dew
||Don't have much use for cities, imps... but maybe the slugfolk do! So these new exiles will marvel at the view and go HOT DAMN did those slugs build these. They're so cool||
tulip elk
obsidian socket
Pyre's a great game, i'd definately recommend it
hasty gale
loooove me some Pyre
I pray one day it gets a switch release so I can play couch versus with my friends
unlikely but a girl can dream
short tundra
pyre on switch would be so good
wraith pulsar
@clever dew ||I thought about it, but I wasn't sure if the game would just give us the ability to circumvent that as the rites progress...Sad!||
rain cove
How has Covid19 affected dev for Hades and Supergiant's work process?
grave island
From the Q&A a little while back:
We are, thank you for asking. We hope all of you are, likewise.
We have all been working from our homes since early March. Many of us are well accustomed to remote work, and some of us have worked from home exclusively to begin with. As a small team, we can also make sure individual needs are accommodated -- it's always been true for us, and now more than ever I guess it's very important.
So, I feel very very fortunate that our work has been able to continue without too much disruption, relatively speaking at least. As a side note, video games have always helped me through difficult times, so once again I find they are incredibly important right now. Games' primary function in most cases is only to entertain; not to help people through difficult situations. But I know they can have that effect, and I'm glad for that.```
strange idol
Is there a way to get my role removed
faint moth
The nitro booster role is automated as far as I know
obsidian socket
Indeed, it is
strange idol
So now way to take it off?
stone relic
You could get a different coloured role to hide it
magic swallow
have a question. tryed to change teh resolution of hades, and now its just a black scree. tryed unistalling it, verifying files, etc. anyone have any ideas how to fix it?
white patrol
@magic swallow Check #h1-tech-fixes You may need to disable and re-enable your graphics drivers, but you'll find more info over there.
neon kayak
Hey, I need some help getting Transistor working with PS-prompts on Linux. Is there a guide for that?
glass sky
Hey Devs I know you might get this often but thanks a ton for this amazing game called Hades.
I absolutely love the Soundtrack as well.
Kudos m8s 10/10
Cheers!
steel nimbus
^
weary quarry
when you guys make another game you should try multiplayer
fixed that for you ;)
But yes, I absolutely second that! Even local co-op would be awesome!
spiral light
local cause of the consistent "better with controller"
i hope steam makes a v2. picked up one when it was 5. it's great (im bad at using some parts) the perfect controller for pc
you need aim assist when using a thumbstick to aim don't you
stone relic
Pyre has local vs mode
spiral light
nuclear throne with a controller has limitations unfortunately hopefully SG games don't have em (for instance an ability would teleport you to your cursor and controller just sticks your cursor a set distance)
would pvp even fit SG?
faint moth
pyre already does pvp through it's local vs mode, there's even a discord server pinned in #pyre for orginising matches if so desired ^_^
they use parsec iirc
spiral light
aww so it's already done :/
wonder what genre is next then
puzzle?
hades and bastion are so similar though
stone relic
Not really
They both have isometric action but other than that they're quite different
spiral light
hades uses stuff from bastion and transistor for combat. spear is the pike
mirror is kind of like spirits
shrine is endgame (haven't reached)
even aegis is the shield
faint moth
all of SGG games have elements from the games that have preceded in one way or another, wheather that be similar mechanics done differently to story elements
so even if some things may be similar Bastion and Hades play out very differantly from each other
spiral light
i find combat close just the equipment is more diverse yet small
both games i keep bashing at spawns (atleast in bastion you could remove those spawns)
be cool if their next game was centerd around the bastion universe before the calamity or wait that wouldn't work would it...
stone relic
I might be misrembering but i believe greg prefers to not keep returning to finished work?
faint moth
that is indeed the case yes
spiral light
yah cause each one is so different
stone relic
Calling them finished might not be the most accurate description
But they could probably keep exploring the same world forever if they were so inclined
faint moth
indeed, each world SGG has built could very much be a rabbit hole with any number of stories that could be expanded upon :3
spiral light
bastion is apopcolypse, transitor is sci fi, pyre is idk (wasn't it folklore?), and hades is greek myth. what could possibly be the next theme
space?
faint moth
no one knows, their current project is hades for the forseeable future ^_^
spiral light
well we'll find out eventually hopefully i don't forget this.
vale leaf
imagine if the next project was something grounded, present day
no fancy settings, just good old insert town here
hearty galleon
neon kayak
Hi! Just wanted to pop in and tell @supergiant they are one of my favorite studios. Ever since Bastion I was hooked/sold on the immersive worlds, the music(!), the feels... Thank you folks so much for these great experiences! Just watched the documentary on the making of Pyre, was nice to see the people behind so many nice memories. ❤️
That's all, have a great day!
lilac anchor
hi I just joined the channel, I just wanted to say I have loved this studio since I first got my hands on transistor (made me cry so hard) but still so amazing I've been playing hades since the sisyphus update and is actually one of the first games I've ever started streaming and I love how easy its made it for me to get started
and i can't wait to join this community and continue talking about these games
rustic gulch
I really appreciate that you all leave most, if not all of the game logic in Hades "open source" - as in uncompiled, mutable lua scripts
It's fun digging around and seeing how the game is handling things!
neon kayak
will hades have mac version?
faint moth
from the #hades-faq channel
"Will Hades ever come to other platforms?
We expect to bring Hades to a variety of other platforms once Early Access is complete. We haven't decided on all the platforms yet."
neon kayak
thanks
azure prawn
I hope that they will say whats their target after next patch in June, Its patch focused on Code Optimizations.
I personally wishing Switch version heh
rustic gulch
oh man I'd love a switch port.
lilac anchor
saaame! I love my switch and that game on it would make it my favorite console
runic token
Hi everyone
short tundra
👋
iron mortar
Greetings Kird Chemical
runic token
thanks ^^
dusty ocean
@copper steeple feel free to post your link in #self-promotion 
bleak scarab
Hey so I just finished Transistor for the first time, started playing all of Supergiant's games after being hooked on to Hades
it absorbed me for the whole day and it's now 2 in the morning xD and I'm giving Pyre so greedy little eyes
elder island
I stayed up all night playing Pyre the first time
bleak scarab
thing is, Transistor's story is um.. emotional, to say the least, and I've only got so many tears
so uh, is Pyre cut from the same cloth or is it more light hearted?
I've played it before but I want to finish it this time
if I get into it
elder island
It has more jokes, but it also cuts pretty deep at times.
bleak scarab
Well guess Supergiant is turning me into a masochist then, with all these great yet cutting games 😦
Thank god Hades is so light hearted..
...so far...
Not that they need to be light hearted, I'm just an emotional lightweight and don't like my heart being tugged too strongly xD
See this channel in like.. two days when I've finished Pyre and possibly cry my eyes out ❤️
willow pasture
i mean, when the first game is bastion
cant wait until they patch in the really emotional heart wrenching decisionmaking into hades
night turret
@lilac anchor if you want to share experiences messing with the game's code there is a modding discord
lilac anchor
Oh I've never messed with the games code just watched a few speed runs I'm just very enthusiastic about the OST and narrative
But thank you!
night turret
Oh sorry I mentioned the wrong person
@rustic gulch I meant to mention you
your messages were right next to eachother & I'm on phone discord oops
rustic gulch
yep! I joined that server
hazy haven
Does Supergiant plan on releasing a new game soon, or is Hades taking up the studios attention?
stone relic
Hades isn't actually finished yet
They'll probably start on another one after it's out of early access
faint tusk
Yeah, they're a small team, so there's only so much they can do at one time.
fast mesa
IMO they are doing an awesome work with hades as a team of 20
rustic gulch
I am legitimately surprised at how much voiced dialogue there is in Hades considering the studio's size and likely proportional budget
flint plume
they do rely on in-house talent for some of it
greg kasavin, darren korb, and ofc logan cunningham voice a large chunk of the characters between them iirc
but it is also much more voice acted than their previous games
covert peak
I guess the rep they gained from the previous two games helped promote Hades more, which in turns means more money
blazing dock
I find it interesting how you can see the progress they've made:
Bastion - mostly just one character
Transistor - a couple of characters but one character still dominates
Pyre - a lot of characters with a lot of variety, but not a lot of speaking
Hades - So. Many. Great. VAs.
short tundra
hades is also the only game with a non-silent protag
tulip mauve
She also sings
distant coral
i thought you were talking about the reader for a second
zealous barn
next SGG game has 200 characters and all are voiced by Logan
neon kayak
I sure hope so
plush anvil
He has the range bby
lusty quiver
Going the early access route probably also helps with the voice lines
Although it would not work well with hires VAs...
tulip mauve
Don't worry they've got Darren and Logan cryogenized, They just unfreeze them in case they need more VA or more concerts
minor path
speaking of concerts.... show of hands, who else watched the video of the london concert and immediately began trying to find themselves in the crowd shots at the beginning?
dusty ocean
Heey! It's Failer 👀
untold cove
distant coral
thanks failer
weary quarry
@minor path I tried! But didn't see myself, I got there too late I guess ;)
sage cargo
there will never be enough live concerts
distant coral
^
grave island
Hay sugerencias de soporte técnico en # hades-tech-fixes; lo siento, las preguntas frecuentes están en inglés, pero si usa el traductor de Google o algo así, debería ser comprensible.
probablemente necesite la última redistribuible de C ++. Pero debe verificar todas las soluciones, por si acaso.
lean minnow
pasa que inicia y todo, pero en la parte del inicio, donde cargan las hojas, se cierra y vuelve a epic
no avanza más de eso
t t
grave island
Sí, eso suena como si te faltaras el C ++ redistribuible correcto
descargue e instale o reinstale la versión redistribuible x64 más reciente aquí.
2015, 2017 y 2019
lean minnow
Genial, gracias!
minor drift
oh hey acoustic concert
I have the cat version of that shirt Darren's wearing in the interview 😮
blazing dock
Guess I'm gonna have to see Ashley and Darren live to hear how well the fans are singing along because no live recording so far seems to show it. Which is good because I was planning to see them live anyways.
distant coral
darren has such big dad vibes and i love it
rugged grail
Darren's best performance was the 10 years anniversary concert. That still gives me shivers to this day
minor drift
There's a boyfriend in that sword!
anniversary concert Vagrant Song was cool as hell
oh i didn't get all the way through last night before falling asleep and i just got to Mourning Song
hella
rustic gulch
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/0/1864993755183591660/#c1864993755185620425
This is so cool
That's... A lot of work holy crap
and incredibly impressive
Also kinda explains why Zag looks ever so slightly blurry on my 1440p display
short tundra
that's a lotta frames
velvet tide
flint plume
tbh it seems like a lot of work
short tundra
sgg really puts so much effort in creating their games and crafting this amazing experience, it absolutely blows my mind
flint plume
i do love the style but like..........that Is a lot of effort for a few short animations
tho i do love handdrawn animations
but in 3d?? madlads
rustic gulch
yeah wow, the returns are definitely great. so many of the god boon animations are so pretty
I wonder how they keep RAM management reasonable, you need to load.... A lot of images into memory to make that work
blazing dock
sgg really puts so much effort in creating their games and crafting this amazing experience, it absolutely blows my mind
@short tundra my sentiments exactly!
fervent depot
I thought Zag was 3D just with a few 2D overlays
faint tusk
@brazen pond There was actually a really good GDC panel Camilo did when he was still part of Supergiant that talks about the animation pipeline further! I also was absolutely floored when he explained how many frames go into those animations haha
Lemme see if I can find a link
Yep, this one’s one of the public talks!
blazing dock
I keep coming back to SGG game reveal trailers from time to time because they always get me hyped for the games. So - good job, whoever is in charge of editing them.
glacial oak
I know this is obvious and thousands of people have said it, but I wanted to sing praises to the music of SGG games. I'm a huge music addict and in 2014 I listened to hundreds of good albums. Yet Transistor OST was the very best of them. @rain zinc you are an amazing genius, your music invokes so many emotions, I am just floored. I did not play that much of Pyre yet but I loved the music in all the other games so so much. Thanks so much
buoyant fog
I can't see my mouse when I play any supergiant game :(
it didn't bother me with hades but it's really hard with transistor
proven furnace
The day after I got the digital version of transistor (for 2 dollars) my local game store announced that they had the cartridge on sale hahah
I hope they port Hades (and Pyre)
azure prawn
Both Pyre and Hades could be day one buy on Switch.
I play o lot of Dead Cells on Switch, and even when i played 2500h on Pc in diablo3 I still want to pick it up on switch too hha
flint plume
i'd buy pyre instantly on switch
faint dirge
stone relic
dim locust
I got Pyre when it bundled with Hades on Steam and have been waiting for a good chance to try it too. Summer, perhaps?
flint plume
any time is a good time to try pyre 😉
covert peak
Especially now that the quarantine is going on
blazing dock
The best time to plant a tree play Pyre is twenty years ago on July 25 2017. The second best time is now.
clever dew
The best time to plant a tree is 200ish years ago. The best time to meet a tree is now, playing Pyre
blazing dock
But in all seriousness, any time is a good time. 🙂
dim locust
🌱📖🎻
velvet tide
The best time to plant a tree is 200ish years ago. The best time to meet a tree ...
eva that should be the slogan on steam
supple sinew
SGG previous three games received and update on steam. Is it anything important?
untold cove
I noticed this too, but there aren't any patch notes posted anywhere
I wonder what's up...
distant coral
what are they planning
zealous barn
Could be just some frameworks updates, I think Steam does those semi-automatically sometimes
distant coral
true
azure prawn
Hades hit 98% positive reviews on steam at almost 16K. Wow!!
faint tusk
yeah i bet it's a framework thing
dusty ocean
I still remember Amir being nervous about the Steam reviews
distant coral
he always is but in the end the team always creates a masterpiece
civic loom
Im trynna think of a bad game they made
...
The way their narratives played with my heart
i crie
neon kayak
SGG has been able to make such incredible games so far because they haven't boxed themselves in once.
There was a an interview with Greg back when Pyre first released and their design philosophy is basically "Get everyone in a room with a giant whiteboard, start writing down everything, and over the course of a few meetings/days/weeks polish what we've got down to what we like.
Not once during Bastion's and Transistor's development did they go "Well, this mechanic has to be in an isometric RPG, despite it being bad and clunky and archaic." No tradition received respect it did not wholeheartedly deserve. They go full Bruce Lee/Jeet Kun Do in their development process.
azure prawn
That's true. But I think there are more studios which are not limited by creativity, but actual size of the team make it harder to put all ideas during meetings, and second- its hard when the diversity of ideas is so wide. So the fact they are small studio is a good factor in the developing.
distant coral
yea
civic loom
Ah sweet some tips on game idea generation
true cloak
the complete game is translated into Spanish? or not yet.
I look forward to the game in Spanish HADES
short tundra
the game hasn't been completed yet but it wouldn't be unsurprising if it the full game was translated into spanish
uneven thorn
Has anyone else here found that the "alternate" versions of Pyre and Transistor's OST aren't available on steam anymore? I looked for them earlier but can't find them. This is stuff like the Extended-Soundtrack or the bonus song "She Shines" for Transistor.
faint moth
The pyre ost on steam comes with the the white and black lute agenta, it was never sold seperately
Same goes for the transistor extended ost, you get it and she shines from the ost on steam as one package
Unless I'm misremembering, anyways point is they're bundled together in a single for their respective osts
uneven thorn
Yeah but I can't find them anymore.
They aren't in the game files, or in Steam's soundtrack folder.
I've also seen other users on steam reporting the same thing. A 0-size update came on and seemingly changed how Steam distributes soundtracks.
Which erased them from the files.
faint moth
Interesting, that'a something I've never come across before
In any case, sending sgg a proof of purchase via email of the soundtracks is a way to get a copy of the osts that steam has seemingly deleted
uneven thorn
How would I provide proof of purchase? I don't really save my Steam purchase receipts apart from my most recent ones.
true cloak
Everyone here in Latin America is waiting for the game to be translated into Spanish because we don't all know English and we want to understand the story of each character and the main story of Hades.
short tundra
the game isn't done, translation isn't the current priority
covert peak
are you gonna say that in every channel
stone relic
@uneven thorn there's a link to all purchase history on the steam support page, and also from your account details
it might be there
stone relic
good luck with that
i just checked mine and it got nuked too
and i got it from a gift so no record in the history
uneven thorn
I think it's due to Steam changing how they distribute soundtracks.
And not telling everyone else they changed it.
stone relic
why do you do this steam
uneven thorn
Or it's caused by their continual "upgrading" of the Steam Library.
stone relic
it looks like the ones i still have are in my purchase history, while the ones i have from gifts are all gone
astral totem
Going take brake bye
spiral sail
I just checked on my end and yeah, the extended transistor soundtrack, the white lute and black mandolin are no longer in my steam soundtracks library when they used to be. Really not sure what's going on but at least I had back-ups of them for the time being (I think, not sure if I have She Shines though)
uneven thorn
@spiral sail She Shines should still be in your Transistor game-folder as long as you purchased the soundtrack before the recent steam soundtrack distribution changes.
spiral sail
Ah, brilliant. Good thing everything's still there so it's just the Steam Launcher Library that's playing silly blighters with me. Thanks for getting back so quickly about it
civic loom
That was very british
spiral sail
That would be because I am British :P
civic loom
Very posh innit
spiral sail
Right proper
winter adder
ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵖʳᵒᵖᵉʳ
little bane
Is there any information on the availability of the extended soundtracks of Transistor, Pyre and presumably Bastion as well?
Despite the store pages on Steam claiming that the music DLC for these soundtracks include the extended soundtracks as well, they do no longer include them since they were converted to the new DLC type some time ago and recently the remaining files within the game files got removed as well, rendering the extended soundtrack inaccessible. Will they be added as separate discs to the existing soundtrack DLCs, is there any comment or information about this matter?
stone relic
They will send a copy of the files if you email proof of purchase
Haven't heard about any plans specifically related to the steam issue
little bane
I see, thank you for your response! Just wondering, since other users and myself sent them an email asking what happened to the missing soundtracks, but have yet to receive an answer. I will send them an email with proof of the purchase and try to get the files, thanks! In the meantime, I can listen to the soundtracks through YouTube, fortunately, as Supergiant Games uploaded all of them there, too, including the extended versions.
While the sudden removal of content that I paid for doesn't make me happy as a customer, I hope that their silence and the remaining information on the Steam store pages are evidences that it is being worked on in the background. An update would be nice, nonetheless.
PS: How does the proof of purchase has to look like? Steam doesn't appear to offer printing a receipt, despite the button saying there would be an option, only allowing one to view it. I do have the confirmation email about the purchase, but I am unsure what to do with it, as the proof of purchase of different soundtracks is in different emails.
atomic flicker
Hey @little bane ! Our bonus albums were recently bumped off from the albums on Steam, we're working on getting them back as they were! Dragon is right, shoot us an email at support@supergiantgames.com and we'll get you download codes. You can access your purchase history on Steam through the Account Details section under your username. 👍
little bane
Thank you very much for your response, @atomic flicker ! I am going to do that, sending proof of purchase with it. I ended up opening the receipt of the purchase in my browser and taking a screenshot of the whole page. In the purchase history on Steam, I don't see any way to print it, despite the button saying "view or print", so I hope that it will be enough.
atomic flicker
That works as well!
viral raptor
Hello All,
Genuinely thank you so much for making Hades, this game is a great time! Thanks for all the hard work!
scarlet lily
when is the next ask-supergiant?
faint moth
at this point in time, no idea, they're usually announced through the supergiant blast emails and here on the discord
scarlet lily
ok thanks
prime heart
Need help...
I'm missing the Bonus OST's for Pyre & Transistors
I understand SGG are aware of the issue, and someone said you can contact them on email to get the extra osts but I'm not sure how...
Please Ping me with the answers... Or if there's a room for this here
stone relic
@prime heart send proof of purchase to their contact email. the purchase history page for your steam account should be fine
stone relic
scroll up for more details
someone just asked a few days ago
i'll get the link to the purchase page
prime heart
Wasn't able to find proof of purchase
I can't find steam Account Details purchase history...
Like how do I get there in Steam
faint moth
in any case SGG are working on getting the extended soundtracks back the way they were
prime heart
Thanks Dragon
Think it's part of the fact Steam change it so the OSTs are no longer i n the DLCs/additional content list
stone relic
faint moth
it's 100% the reason for it Ransom
prime heart
Noob question but can I use that link on steam program? Not browser.
faint moth
you're definitely not the only one affected, there's been a few from memory
in the top right there should be a down arrow next to your UN. click on that and choose "account settings"
stone relic
you can also get to it from steam support
faint moth
the first option on the right underneath "STORE & PURCHASE HISTORY" is view purchase history
prime heart
I swear I can't find it lol
I can't post a screenshot here...
What's the tab for it?
I'm on Store now
I can't find a way to copy and paste the link Dragon gave me
stone relic
stone relic
you good from there?
prime heart
Wish there was a search tool for the games I bought years ago lol
So now I just look it up and send them screenshots to that email?
stone relic
it should be alright
btw gifts/freebies are in the licenses section
while what you bought are in purchase history
prime heart
There's no search bar so you kinda have to filter it by hand and CTRL+f...
stone relic
yeah...
prime heart
I just found the Transistor OST and Pyre OST , clicked on it and will send them a pic with the receipt thing with the price and all, I guess?
faint moth
yeah, it sucks but thankfully it's there
stone relic
also in the meantime everything is on youtube and spotify 👍
faint moth
yeah, send SGG an email with a screenshot of the receipts price isn't really relevent and they'll send you a copy of the extended ost's
prime heart
Yeah I know. I also have it on my phone, I just wanted it on my PC as well
Does Hades have missing bonus osts too?
A friend just bought me the game + Soundtrack as a gift.
faint moth
not that I'm aware of
prime heart
Actually I was trying to buy it myself, but I have an issue - I know this is off topic - that I can't select my PAYPAL BALANCE on Steam...
stone relic
did somebody say #off-topic-discussion 😛
prime heart
So I wasn't able to pay for it with that balance, anyone else encountered this? (Paypal has money in balance, but steam only shows my credit cards).
not that I'm aware of
@faint moth Thanks. So I'll just send it for Transistor Soundtrack and Pyre Soundtrack purchases then. Great. Thanks for the help. Hopefully they'll respond soon with the download links.
And yeah, I really don't like the changes steam made to their interface, library, and stuff, I find it very clunky, kinda cluttered and hard to navigate or display what you really want...
I figured the missing OSTs are due to them separating the OST from the games...
faint moth
yeah, it's unfortunately due to steam changing how they deal with osts and thus SGG are figuring out how to rectify it
so in the meantime this is the best solution, it's not elegant, but it's workable
prime heart
Just send them the email with the screenshots. Know how long it would usually take ?
faint moth
yep send an email to support@supergiantgames.com. not sure how long it will take unfortunately
stone relic
i guess it would depend on how busy they are
which might be quite busy since a lot of people have had problems with the soundtracks
scarlet lily
Is it still possible to apply for the translator?
faint moth
translator as in for Hades?
faint moth
from the pinned messages in #hades-localization it appears as they're not looking for any additional community translators atm outside of simplified chinese
faint moth
no worries
prime heart
@faint moth @stone relic just to update, so far - SGG didn't reply to me at all about my issue. I still don't have means to get the soundtrack back, and not sure if they got my 2 emails. (one was without thescreenshots)
Is there no way to ping/tag them here or ask here for support?
I'm new to this server
atomic flicker
Hey @prime heart ! Did you see my ping in Pyre yesterday?
little bane
Haven't heard from them about the soundtracks either, however, considering that it is the beginning of the week, there are likely more important issues for them right now.
atomic flicker
Ahhhhh notifications. That's alright, it happens! I was out yesterday, so I'm chugging through support tickets today. If you still haven't heard from me by Friday somehow, please let me know! We're working on resolving the Steam issue still, but I'll be sending along direct download codes for the albums you're missing. 👍
prime heart
@atomic flicker Oh I see it now Caitlin on the Pyre channel. Thanks.
If that's okay I'll re-send the email with the screenshots just in case it got filtered or something.
little bane
@prime heart As someone who worked in tech support, please don't re-submit support tickets. If only a small percentage of customers do this, you end up with so much more redundant work (unless your software is intelligent enough to detect duplicates). Caitlin gave us a deadline, being Friday, so let's be patient for a respone 🙂
prime heart
I will, no worries. I just wasn't sure it arrived. I'll wait (also work in tech support so I know the feeling).
atomic flicker
I appreciate it Ardenian. 😄
Ransom 🤝 Cait 🤝 Ardenian
Tech Support!!! 💪 😤
drifting laurel
late pagoda
Dude i love this hades game.
mystic turret
yh yh aiiight I let it slip my bad
faint moth
any hades spoilers should be contained to the hades channels please ^_^ (specifically #h1-story-discussion and #h1-builds-and-combat)
fierce galleon
hello, i`m from taiwan, nice to meet you all
dim locust
Hellooo!
indigo ginkgo
I've played bastion when it was released, but I didn't play transistor or pyre. I've really enjoyed hades though. Transistor or pyre next though?
flint plume
pyre
it's my favorite
it's more different from bastion than transistor, but has better writing
dusty ocean
I second Pyre
untold cove
Pyre's very different than any of the other SG games
Very unique
It's one of my all-time favourite games, ever
So I'd also recommend it
clever dew
Pyre's my fave by a long shot but if you're gonna play both eventually, I say Transistor first? There really is a progression throughout all four...
arctic crypt
does the game create logs for submitting bugs? or should just type it out and explain what happened?
indigo ginkgo
I played bastion 10 years ago
Instantly recognized the combat influence in hades
The tartarus thugs are almost the same build as the squirt humanoid things
actually it was 12 years ago i played it on release
arctic crypt
they're both called louts I believe
or it could be different enemies
my 2 cents: pyre grabbed me instantly, bastion was unique at the time and I played it eventually, transistor I still havent beaten but will when get around to it again
indigo ginkgo
I have ~80 runs to complete for full-20 heat hades complete but I'm trying to slow burn it a bit now that I'm way into the thick of it.
orchid jewel
Is there a way to find music I own on Steam? I went to listen to the Pyre soundtrack and noticed the file folder was empty, upon "recalculating" my soundtracks folder went from 39 games to 13 and I don't even remember all of my soundtracks outside of the SuperGiant games
dusty ocean
@orchid jewel This might be the reason https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/456894214840516611/709473648582459472
orchid jewel
nice I was wondering about that
wondering what other games were affected
Transistor appears to still be there but not the bonus Transistor album
little bane
Transistor, Pyre and presumably Bastion are affected by missing bonus soundtrack content.
atomic flicker
Only Transistor and Pyre, Bastion doesn't have any bonus tracks attached to the album. 👍
prisma venture
Hi @supergiantteamandcommunity ! I just bought Hades game early access, I will try it, and thanks to Discord search servers, I realize this server exists ! I'm from 🇨🇵 and I'm obviously one among your millions fans! Each time you release a game, I'm "like a virgin" (cf. Madonna song) mixed with Terry Crews tits : your games are truly amazing, keep up the good work -no pressure- 😄 Take care of you all and stay safe!
(it's Terry Crews)
little bane
Thank you for clarifying which games have additional content in their soundtrack DLC, Caitlin! Just noticed that Steam updated the Transistor DLC with the additional content, the Extended Soundtrack, very much appreciated, thank you!
Hope that Pyre follows soon!
ancient echo
Posting this in the general Supergiant Games channel than a Hades one for better chance of response:
(User from India)
Are you guys making Hades on Epic Store cheaper than what it was when we bought it (based on pre-sale prices)? Even the soundtrack and game bought separately are cheaper than buying them together
- I'd have understood holding the price same or increasing it due to all the extra content you put in but dropping the price? Because right now, a part of me wonders if I should have waited instead of being a day 1 buyer (actually I still wouldn't wait, but yeah, I'm confused)
faint moth
the game is currently cheaper because it's currently on sale for 20% off its base price on the epic store (until the 12th June)
so I don't think it's a permanent drop in price
olive hull
aside from the sale, perhaps it got regional pricing? 
faint moth
possibly, though if it were regional pricing you'd expect the bundle to change price as to match 🤔
ancient echo
Yeah, I think regional pricing is messed a little. Because even when I look at the pre discount prices, it's cheaper than what I paid for it
And the total of game +OST is 11.98 (non marked up prices) . The bundle is 11.99... I'm stumped by this. Aren't bundles supposed to be cheaper?
I paid $20 for the game and to see it at less than 50% before even the early access period ends stung a little
prime heart
@atomic flicker Hey Caitlin, is it true that you guys fixed the missing bonus soundtracks on Steam for Pyre and Transistor?
Can't quite varify it myself at the moment.
civic loom
The dev ping, will it pay off
faint moth
from what I can see on steam it has been fixed for transistor Ransom
stone relic
#bot-commands
distant coral
go to bots and do ?rank hades
neon kayak
okay thank yall
atomic flicker
The dev ping certainly won't pay off at 2am my time!! But I am here now. 😄
I'll check the progress! I believe that Transistor has been reinstated but I'll make sure.
bitter holly
Can confirm that the Transistor extended soundtrack is showing up under the additional DLC, as Disc 2 of the soundtrack.
atomic flicker
I've been informed that the missing album music should be available again by the end of this week. 👍
reef palm
The directory structure for the Transistor soundtrack is a bit odd though, all the files are in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\music\Transistor Soundtrack\Users\Will\Downloads\untitled folder 2\Darren Korb - Transistor- Original Soundtrack
burnt nymph
hello I wanted to say I love hades and have some feedback, unfortunately I can't type in the feedback nor suggestion channel
dusty ocean
@burnt nymph To be able to post in #hades-feedback , first visit #bot-commands and type ?rank Early Access. Please, make sure to read the rules in the pins there beforehand
barren quiver
I love all your game, you are my inspiration in my dream and my studies to become game developer. 
distant coral
^
muted kindle
I've noticed a trend in Ssg game naritives
Bastion: Escaping the apocalypse
Transistor: Escaping the process
Pyre: Escaping the Downside
Hades : Escaping the Underworld
🤔
solid snow
We are all trapped in cages of our own making
split sparrow
I don't think Transistor or Bastion were much about escaping the bad thing
cobalt gust
the real theme is the enemies with insults for names
scumbag, jerk(), cur, numbskull
clever dew
Enemies?? Curs are FRIENDS
Pyre also turned more... pro-active midway through, with a layered view on what a bad place is and what to do about it...
zealous barn
I think a common theme is that you‘re always playing in some sort of corrupted world in that universe, and not the ‚main world‘ the setting would suggest. For Bastion, it‘s the post-Calamity world; for Transistor it‘s the post-Process world; for Pyre it‘s the Downside instead of the Commonwealth, and for Hades it‘s the underworld instead of the overworld
While playing Bastion, Transistor and Pyre, I‘ve often wondered how those places looked and what the characters did before the calamity/process/kicked-to-the-downside happened
flint plume
agree.......you're never playing in the Ideal state of things
covert peak
I’d say that in Hades case it’s ||the overworld being stuck in an eternal winter|| rather than being on the underworld, the underworld itself is presented as a generally orderly place, if also buried in bureaucracy and at most having its resources stretched thin due to the immense amount of incoming shades and Zagreus’ repeated escape attempt
imo is the former rather than the latter
zealous barn
Ah alrighty, I wasn't sure about Hades anyway, since I haven't played it (and this 'corrupted' world is so expansive anyway that it could count as the 'main world')
zealous barn
No worries, I didn't click on the one spoiler :D
covert peak
Oh neat then
sage rivet
You know what sucks about supergiant games
The arts for the games themselves are so good that I find all the fanarts inferior and not worth my time.
This is supposed to be a compliment btw
zealous barn
petition for jen zee having to draw with a mouse
muted kindle
damn i like how you're discrediting all fanartists in one fell swoop LMAO
little bane
Have other users problems listening to the soundtrack of Transistor on Steam? It looks as if the track order is shuffled up, with the Steam Media Player playing the extended soundtrack first and then the normal one. This also means that selecting a track in the album in library view plays a different track in the Steam Media Player, which is slightly annoying.
neon kayak
How do you get roles for the games in this discord server?
neon kayak
Thanks!
unique knoll
Hi everyone!
I joined this to submit feedback from a Reddit user who has trouble accessing discord.
M'kay, well I'm going to put it here, and I'll come back and check later ^_^
The user basically expressed that they have some degree of visual impairment, and that the fishing 'visual signal' is almost impossible to see in general, and can't be identified at all in the Asphodel biome even when pointed out by others.
They didn't offer much suggestion other than "It would be nice if there were some accommodation or alternative for those who have trouble with vision, especially because rest of the game is quite doable without any additional changes"
velvet tide
i reccommend putting this in the #hades-feedback channel! please read the pins to see how to post there 
flint plume
good feedback tho for sure!
unique knoll
Thanks, will do so now.
little bane
Thanks for the update to the Transistor Soundtrack DLC, it is almost working now. The tracks are shifted by one track, which means playing Stained Glass (Hummed), which is listed as track 25 in the library view, actually plays Old Friends (Hummed) in the Steam Media Player, which is track 24 in the library view.
From a short glance over the track, I believe that She Shines is to blame, because its placement in the Library View is different than in the Steam Media Player. Placed on track 24 in the Library view, it is actually the last track in the Steam Media Player, causing all tracks to be shifted by one up when being played from the Library View.
faint moth
They're shifted by one on the extended ost (disc 2) however trying to play anything on disc 1 results in playing the equivelant track on the extended ost (excluding she shines which I forget what plays when you try to play that)
It's really weird and not sure of what the cause may be
proud mountain
Could all the games be in the same universe? Hades in the mythical past, transistor in the future, Bastion in the way way future after technology has been forgotten and society restarted a few times, and pyre in an even further future
neon kayak
I prefer separate IPs.
split sparrow
Yeah, naw, nothing suggests that kind of connection. There are a few easter eggs, but that's all they are.
vale leaf
what if hades is a spanish type tv drama that plays on cloudbank cable tv
blazing dock
Same universe only puts limitations and invites forced connections for the sake of fan service, so I'm not really a fan of that concept.
It's definitely fun to joke about, yeah. I have recently been noticing similarities in enemy behaviour.
granite fiber
I was listening again to Hades songs and I tried to listen to other Supergiant games themes...man, Bastion's songs are...amazing
incredibly good songs
little bane
There was an update for the Transistor Soundtrack DLC on Steam, thank you for still working on it, however, the update introduced more issues.
The Steam Media Player now plays the extended soundtrack first, then the normal soundtrack and then the extended soundtrack again, with a total of 74 tracks as to supposed 49 tracks. There are also still the wrong tracks being played when selecting from the library view of the album, for instance Paper Boats (23) plays Vanishing Point (47) and Vanishing Point (47) plays Blank Canvas (22), with all numbers being the track number from the library view.
atomic flicker
Hey @little bane ! We've pushed another update today for the Transistor Soundtrack, so please be on the lookout for that. We also recommend ending the Steam Bootstrapper through your Task Manager to reboot Steam entirely, then uninstall and reinstall the album.
little bane
Thank you, @atomic flicker! It works now!
Would love if the different tracks are sorted after discs, in particular for the Pyre soundtrack, but hey, it works now, so I am grateful for that.
raw stratus
Hi guys, I just did a review of Hades, does that count as self promotion or is there another channel i can post it to?
short tundra
self promotion would work
vague quartz
is there a way to chat with a developer, programmer specifically? I'm going to be working on an isometric-perspective game soon, which is the same perspective for most of SG's games, and I just wanted to ask for some advice if possible
I totally understand if that's not possible, thank you for your time 🙂
river portal
have you already watched the interview videos?
vague quartz
I haven't, didn't even know there were some!
would you mind DMing me a link to them if possible?
or otherwise directing me to them?
hasty gale
Hey! I worked on a small 3D game with an isometric camera last semester, I may not be a Giant but feel free to DM if you’d like
vague quartz
oh, would really appreciate it!
dusty ocean
@vague quartz You can check the videos in #announcements. I will also be sending links of some playlists through DM to you
vague quartz
Thank you so much!! 😄
vale leaf
i may not be a Giant
is that what we're calling individual members of the studio now
i'm down for it
maybe they can play under the name "Giants" if they ever play throwball or something similar with other studios
i remember somewhere seeing a naughty dog vs santa monica studio throwball match or something
untold cove
They Might Not Be Giants
faint tusk
Not sure if that's the actual name for them, but that's at least what the mods call them! haha
stone relic
What's the average height of the devs compared to the mods?
dusty ocean
I don't have any idea at all of how tall they are 😂
I'm 1.78m tall if you are curious 
stone relic
You're taller than me
faint moth
and thus by default that means you're taller than me too
stone relic
Arons are pretty small as pokemon go
faint moth
yap about 1' 4" or ~41cm tall 
worn cargo
Does anyone know when the supergiant online merch store will be up? i wanna buy some goods 💔
solar summit
I wanna Squirt plushie ;-;
olive hull
there used to be a scumbag plushie.... i want one so bad 
solar summit
Troo
short tundra
i got the scumbag plushie during its second run, it is adorable
faint moth
I'm yes jelly babs
solar summit
I just want the Squirt plushie
atomic flicker
Hey @worn cargo ! No current estimate on the store reopening, but thank you for your interest! When we're able to reopen, we'll make sure to get the word out. 👍
indigo ginkgo
Beaten bastion, beaten transistor. Ready to take on the left turn that is pyre
untold cove
As unique a game as any, but it’s still got that distinct Supergiant touch to it
visual idol
Hey, Supergiant Games, opt-in your games for "Steam Cloud Play" on Steam!
This new feature "Steam Cloud Play" on Steam, gives the possibility to many players to enjoy games that otherwise they would not be able to play.
It uses GeForce NOW, NVIDIA’s cloud-based game streaming service and Steam is now supporting this.
You can read the Steamworks documentation here: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/cloudgaming
I love your games, I own them all but I only have the chance to complete Bastion and Transistor.
Pyre and Hades are on waiting because I can't run them on my notebook. :(
But this would give players the chance to play the games that might otherwise be out of reach.
faint moth
Stadia is honestly a bad example, for many reasons, one of those including how it managed to completely break most of its promises 🙂
visual raptor
Well, the point is that it's a bad example. New technology can seem promising, and then completely flop
faint moth
My point is though, stadia is a bad example outside of the service being bad. Everything surrounding the service from marketing to the promises made, to the going pretty dang hard for exclusives is bad and having to pay for the majority of the games even when you're already subscribed to the service. When there's already much better cloud gaming services on the market (they have their own issues however)
Not to mention, many saw stadia flopping hard before it came even released
cobalt gust
I don't know a single person who has bought stadia lol
azure prawn
the problem with stadia is that its running on Linux so there is no many games on it, devs must port it over to Linux and then an consumer need to buy the game, even when he already own it and the price on Google is HIGH
if we are talking about SGG games then, right port could make it run on any mid-range phone.
So no need for Cloud gaming.
...and basically , the games are available on Iphone/Ipad.
faint moth
see Bastion; which is already availible on IOS
stone relic
other option is the steam link thingie
faint moth
steam link works quite well aparantly
stone relic
it works pretty good even on australian internet
not perfect but pretty good
would probably be quite good if you lived somewhere with nicer infrastructure
faint moth
cries in australian internet 
azure prawn
Mine connection suck, but I have mine Switch ❤️
fervent flame
Holy shnizzles, was transistor always there for mobiles?
How did I not know about this
solar summit
Wait a-
astral totem
What?
sudden echo
any chance you guys would re-add Pyre to Geforce now? if you were to also add your other titles that would be awesome
having the game on geforce now would allow more people to have access to it and would not cost you anything else asides from time spent sending the request
Pyre was already on it, but since no request was sent before the 31 of may, it was removed
sudden echo
@eternal forge @cursive galleon @stone token @hybrid relic @tawny summit @safe terrace @hallow sail
faint moth
the SGG devs are hard at work on Hades atm so I don't think they will have the time to re-add Pyre to Geforce now at this current time^_^
but thanks for bringing it up
cursive galleon
Hey Albert44, please reach out to us via the Contact page on our web site about this. It's not something we are actively working on as we're a small team focused on development of Hades right now.
indigo ginkgo
Gay rankings of SGG games is definitively ATM
- Transistor (explicit romances that have impact on the characters and stories)
- Hades (Explict romance that have impact on the character, seems tangentially related to story)
- Pyre (Implied romances non-story impacting)
- Bastion (No gay romance)
distant coral
i mean bastion only has 4 characters and its more about the plot than the characters
olive hull
i would definitely rank hades above transistor
velvet tide
same...
olive hull
hades spoilers: ||artemis and callisto, patroclus and achilles, zagreus and thanatos|| is already more than transistor 
astral hull
hades has both ||main character gay and a gay substory, with inclusive and deliberately sensitive writing||
flint plume
whereas transistor's writing Ain't It
olive hull
dont get me wrong, transistor is my favorite game - i just think representation in hades is better done for sure
flint plume
yeah definitely
astral hull
transistor’s gay affects the story, yes, but it has problematic issues revolving it (that have been argued to death in this server)
also they’re not really put to the forefront like hades’s gay is
velvet tide
i think that they learned a lot from all their past examples and hades is where theyre currently at
astral hull
hades writing in general is amazingly sensitive and well made (but that’s a conversation for #h1-discussion ) :v
minor spear
Wait why is Transistor's relationship writing considered problematic?
stone relic
It's not the relationships, it's about negative gay stereotypes
minor spear
oh. I was never aware of their presence in the game.
They didnt seem apparent but it's probably cause I'm a little slow
willow pasture
It's mostly in the sybil logs
faint moth
if the convo is to continue, #transistor please ^_^
willow pasture
Oh soz, missed
faint moth
no worries
proud mountain
Out of curiosity
Can people steam gameplay videos with the games' music playing?
I saw the blurb saying footage is ok
dusty ocean
Oh, someone was just asking that in #h1-tech-support
proud mountain
I saw that link
I'm curious about the music specifically
Not that I'm going to make any videos
But I've definitely seen other games run into that problem, even with supportive developers
Like Old World
dusty ocean
If they allow the use of footage, I'd say they also allow the ingame music to be played.