#👶beginner-help

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ancient needle
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!faq asterite

small willowBOT
ancient needle
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!faq fhm

small willowBOT
ancient needle
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You can refer to these

low steppe
ancient needle
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You'll have to use VBm TA for a good while

lament sparrow
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SS Truth or Songque? this is my roster. i dont have rita so i use trio

low steppe
lament sparrow
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gave up on songque astralop cuz got SS Chenxue

ancient needle
low steppe
sage rain
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Should I just save this or who should I get

lament sparrow
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||i will get dkey next patch as well||

quick birch
# lament sparrow SS Truth or Songque? this is my roster. i dont have rita so i use trio

generally if you're not a super competitive player that competes in nirvana the valkyrie frag box is kinda useless || if you are such player getting SW frags is an option to get a head start on her ranks but depending on where this would get you it still might be a bit meh ||
as for JDS check out the pin this goes into more detail what said valk would provide to you but to be fair her usage is relatively low these days and you may end up just using her for the 620 crystals from ER

I dont necessarily think that SS CX excludes sonq aop as an option since if you dont have 2/3 symbioses/omniscient star teammates in an elemental team she's still worse for non GoI/RoO elemental teams, if hoyo also continues to give out free AOPs it would be another stepping stone to get SS sonq aop which would provide you with a non ring specific ari regen which can be useful in some fights.

In the end the decision is up to you since the spending shop is kinda subpar anyway and you could make a point for any out of those options imo

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!faq boxvalk

small willowBOT
# quick birch !faq boxvalk
Free S-Rank Valkyrie Box

CAPTAINNNNNNNN! AichanAngery

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for advice on the most recent S-rank option box.

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see general guidance of what to choose - mainly for old boxes you have saved up.

Short explanation:

  • Keep the box until your account is more established.
  • None of these characters are good for practical use.
  • High-end competitive players would usually choose the 23x2 ATK affix device, or...
  • If you can justify opening it, unlock a valkyrie that is not farmable and in ER if possible. Ancient Legacy farmed Valkyries that are in ER at a push.
quick birch
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@sage rain just in case you missed it

lament sparrow
hexed path
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is aristophanes better for HoR than her old sig set now? im old PaiNod

quick birch
# lament sparrow im also planning to go for ||new astralop as well|| and i have 3 symbioses and o...

the symbioses/omniscient star point refered to who's in the team, looking at some comparisons again S sq AOP is just straight up better in non GoI/RoO elemetal teams.

|| if you're planning to go for the new aop at SS ( i wouldnt recommend going for her below that) this does reduce the situations where you'd use SQ aop a bit since you would cover WoD and WS with youyun||
imo if you're just chilling in RL getting || SW ranks || isnt that important so JDS might take the lead for the crystals you get from ER, also just fyi pulling aops as a f2p/non nirvana player is not really recommended since you can do just fine in RL without them and dont have the funds as an f2p to realistically get them at SS while also pulling new releases

quick birch
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95% of the buffs are locked behind the astral ring systems for which she needs her weapon

hexed path
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oka thumb thank you

kind hull
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do i still have time to fully complete this event? i missed a week as i was away

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wait i didnt even miss a week nvm

lyric anvil
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You got time

wind ember
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How to complete D Keys? I can't find some of them in the foundry. Aside from exchange shop, where can I get those?

outer spruce
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there are some craftable ones in foundry like pledge of sakura, abyss and fenghuang pinions and the only one in exchange shop is judah

wind ember
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I already have Sakura. I think I saw Fenhuang Down but I can't remember. Token Shop?

outer spruce
wind ember
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I have 4 Immutable Crystallum. When Dorm Shop will refresh so I can get another 2?

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Weapons need 10 Crystallum

outer spruce
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i think dorm gives 2 every patch and the rest is from bp

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f2ps get 5 per patch

drifting smelt
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Can anyone help me? I have 4 Gmail accounts, and one of them is a HI3 account but I forgot which Gmail account it is, so I tried all of them and now I can't log in. because a notification appears that there are "too many requests"
I've been trying to log in for 2 days

spiral badge
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Sorry your question was missed.

For spending event shop (the first image), we have a pinned guide about this from Mango.

I'm not really sure what you mean by getting a character from there. It looks like you're still far away (320 cost for JDS Songque valk but you only have 180. Maybe you mean Songque Astral Op? but that's 300 cost). I would NOT recommend going out of your way (mainly doing more rolls beyond Mei valk+weap and Lunar Vow weapon) just to get a character from that shop either. While there are some more exclusive things in that shop you can't find anywhere else (stuff that used to be gacha even) everything in that shop is older stuff that isn't as strongly meta relevant anymore so it's just a nice extra bonus but not a main goal.

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north lynx
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morning yall

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saving up starts now

naive warren
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is q manifold always supposed to take like 20-30 minutes to do or am i just bad cause its kinda burning me out

lyric anvil
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Depends on what you're doing for your rot possibly

quick birch
north lynx
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so many events idk where to start

quick birch
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it's a bit much at first yeah so take your time, though if you're going through the events avoid "The night which the light dreams of" i you dont wanna get spoiled since this is the new story quest

north lynx
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aight

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the card game looking one looks the most promising

naive warren
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or bfd

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idk the acronyms well

quick birch
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hm you should be fine in q manifold then, how's your rotation looking ?

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quick birch
naive warren
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start with fws jump and charge attack into ult, then fdd e and q then xdc weapon skill ult ba string second ult then charge attack then same thing into the second set of charged attacks them repeat

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thirty minutes might be an overstatement more closer to 20 but i just feel like im sitting there spamming the same combo for a long time

quick birch
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tbh i'm a bit out of touch in terms of how long higher level q manifold would take but i've heard that masters RL can be tough from time to time, does xdc have her weapon ? and what are you doing in SO ?

frozen crypt
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jolyne ate mango?

quick birch
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yes DoroV

lyric anvil
quick birch
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the mango is actually just a part of her strings now DoroV

naive warren
quick birch
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Stellar outburst

outer spruce
naive warren
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oh pretty much same thing but i spam ults with xdc and charged attacks first and then do the rotation and at the end i do the ult spam + ca and weapon skill

steep drift
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How do I check on my friends? I tried talking to Litost but there wasn't an option

quick birch
naive warren
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like the stigmatas?

quick birch
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Yeah stigmata and weps

naive warren
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all of them have their main set and fdd also has weapon

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fws doesnt have a good weapon tho

quick birch
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That isn't that significant maybe it's really just how masters RL is hm

naive warren
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ya idk it just feels like a chore everytime i do it

scenic arrow
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what can I do with dupe stigmata?? or does it just sit there forever….

outer spruce
scenic arrow
outer spruce
scenic arrow
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ok thank you SakuraLuv

faint wasp
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Wait

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Does aop pity carry over?

shadow gyro
outer spruce
shadow gyro
faint wasp
wintry wharf
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yes

limber storm
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am I supposed to do this before chapter 32

keen olive
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Yes

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Do this then start the arc

limber storm
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alright ty

craggy inlet
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hi. what does it mean when the valk sits like this in the dorm?

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should I do something?

abstract sequoia
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which gives you a lego block gift

wicked cargo
abstract sequoia
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it happens to my old bronyas

wicked cargo
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I really need hoyo to make more bio 😔

abstract sequoia
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newer valk chibis never got that effect for me

abstract sequoia
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not the most common release

wicked cargo
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All the abyss soo far has been PSYCHIC CoralieSob

abstract sequoia
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i mean last abyss was Mech

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and it's not always the type, you can just do fine with any non-countered valk

wicked cargo
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My account is just mecha and sd with the singular miss espionage rita

abstract sequoia
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||Silverwing is bio and gets a new dk next patch||

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so maybe go out of your way and at least pick up a few ranks

hollow sentinel
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hi guys idk if i am still considered a beginner but i am lv 79 and i just retured to lock in and finish story and other things and be caught up and like last time when i came here a year or 2 ago i was given a guide on what to do but i kinda forgot all the mechanics and everything sotra... and needed some help remembering everything and learning new things

wintry wharf
hollow sentinel
acoustic ivy
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i thought that the odessey 2 was a different one with the other 3 because till last week i both have mission task for odessy1 and odessy2

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or that was just a bug?

shadow gyro
abstract sequoia
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there is some sort of this mechanic for every open world

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while you technically have barely enough stamina to do multiple open worlds, the abundance of stamina potions you get when you make a new account exists also for this feature

novel schooner
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what should i get from s rank battle suit option 2026

urban lake
novel schooner
urban lake
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you have her dkey?

novel schooner
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uhh whats that gulp

urban lake
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SenadinaStare her divine key

novel schooner
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totally man

urban lake
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the part 2 weapon for her

novel schooner
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does key of ego work

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for now atleast

urban lake
urban lake
novel schooner
urban lake
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no problem, but when you get to lvl. 81+ thats not an option meta wise

urban lake
novel schooner
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so technically i can just stay at captain level 80

urban lake
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well yes-

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but why tho HimekoLMAO

novel schooner
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gulp

urban lake
feral pelican
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when do we think hle will rerun again

urban lake
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not any time soon BronyaHeavyDebugging

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maybe in next carnival supply

feral pelican
urban lake
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most likely next cny or anniversary patch

quick birch
# feral pelican when do we think hle will rerun again

we can't really say for sure after the first rerun there isnt really any pattern to follow
Usually a valk reruns 1-2 patches after her releases and after that they get some reruns but not in any specific pattern and with time they'll rerun less

novel schooner
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whats hohes best teammates/team

shadow gyro
# novel schooner whats hohes best teammates/team

team has her in any supports with the harmonized shadow star tag
as for exact team it depends based on boss
a popular pick would be thelema for different reasons like filling downtime, weather advantage, buffs, etc
sena because shes passive and gives breach
or vita if you dont have sena but her downside is taking uptime (not always bad tho)
mse (new rita) and hle (new ely) for solid buffs
others can still work pretty fine but it depends on the case

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ofc this is just talking about hoh as the leader

shadow gyro
shadow gyro
novel schooner
shadow gyro
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for instance she doesnt have access to astra ring without her divine key thats why without it non of the characters i listed can use her

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its not 20 mil dmg but it makes the character meta again for longer

novel schooner
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ohhh

fierce snow
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do we have a usage rate of characters who is being used the most in abyss for this version at least? I want to see who is used the most and who is not used that often... TeriDerp

feral pelican
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||for silverwing u will need to pull stigmata and weapon? ||

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also can i max the bp if i play daily

slim blaze
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Thats how they sell

ancient needle
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Stigs can be obtained through other means

quick birch
feral pelican
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i’m thinking about buying bp

slim blaze
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Dewit

feral pelican
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bc im scared i wont get hle weapon and rita and her weapon

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even tho i’m locked in with questing

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i know in next patch i’ll be chilling

ancient needle
slim blaze
feral pelican
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yes

fierce snow
feral pelican
feral pelican
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compering price to crystals

feral pelican
quick birch
slim blaze
quick birch
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!Faq whaling

small willowBOT
# quick birch !Faq whaling
Cost-effective Spending

Ai-chan is here, Captain! AichanLol

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the cost-effective whaling guide!

Short answer:

  1. Level Rush and very high value B-Chip Bundles.
  2. Monthly Card.
  3. Level bundles (will expire if left too long).
  4. Knight BP.
  5. Crystal top-up with 2x bonus.
  6. B-Chip packs (find highest Crystal:B-Chip ratio)
  7. Paladin BP.
  8. Crystal top-up without 2x bonus.
slim blaze
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And monthyl card better

feral pelican
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whaling 😭🤌🤌

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it’s 3 pulls 😭😭😭

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i can buy it only once

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right

slim blaze
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Sure

slim blaze
feral pelican
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wait there’s 2

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it’s in HOT and started exclusive

quick birch
feral pelican
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where’s lvl bandle

quick birch
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The level rush thing ? Starter manual

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Otherwise they should just be in the shop

feral pelican
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oh yeah i already bought it

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LMAO 😭😭😭

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so in theory 2x monthly and 2 times the x3 weapon thing is the best

quick birch
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Well monthly takes time to get the full value out of it, I'd get it but since your goal is to get hle weapon for now maybe look if there are any other high value packages for about the same price as another monthly

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But the beginner equipment supply card deal is incredibly good yeah

feral pelican
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okay i’ll buy this

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it’s the same price as bp

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well and it lowk gives the same

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LMAO

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that’s the thing too but it’s pricy

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decisions decisions

quick birch
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In the end it's up to you how much you're willing to spend just make sure you actually like the game enough to whale in it. If you have any other questions concerning this topic feel free to ask

feral pelican
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it might be a fomo

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😭😭😭

feral pelican
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on weapon banner

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and then i’ll have 10 days to save for rita

quick birch
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Tbh you're on a really tight budget here, even if hle weapon is really nice for her support and it kinda sucks to not have the 150 SP on WA you can work around it and if Rita is your bigger goal then I'd save for her

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I think we already went over why backpulling is generally not encouraged?

feral pelican
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whose WA

quick birch
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WA is weapon active and what I was talking about is a passive from hle's weapon. You get 150 SP on your WA which you then use to cats her ult

feral pelican
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well idk if u have seen where im in story 😭😭😭

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i thought maybe i can get rita’s kit with all the story

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just the problem is the time rn on hle

feral pelican
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that’s mb but i just really like hle 😔😔

quick birch
# feral pelican

Well you have quite a bit of crystals left there, id probably just play normally and save until hle's banner is about to end and then see what you still have left in terms of one time crystals and if you can afford both hle weapon + Rita

feral pelican
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rita’s need her weapon really bad too right

quick birch
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Everyone does, DPS is bricked without it. In support terms it depends but Rita doesn't really function well with any of your valks as a support

feral pelican
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isn’t hle her bis😭😭

quick birch
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Yeah what I mean is Rita can't support hle/xdc

feral pelican
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oh yeah

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i want hle more as a support

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but everybody said u need her weapon

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even for support

quick birch
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Yeah it is really nice but since this seems to be more of a personal goal situation than a meta decision you have to weigh what's more important for you, getting both hle wep + Rita and weapon will costs you a lot of crystals and I can't say for sure if you are able to guarantee all that, so if Rita is more important to you than I'd advice you to wait out until hle's banner end and then ask again with your current crystal count + one time crystal sources you have left

feral pelican
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kinda bummer it’s hard to find people to type in the code cuz it’s free 1500 crystals

novel schooner
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who do i claim in the 2026 free battle suit

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or do i get s1 hohe

quick birch
# novel schooner who do i claim in the 2026 free battle suit

generally there is no rush to open the box yet but || SW will get a divine key next version and she is in said box so you'd want to pick her if you dont have her already, she's also in WT but you're just saving AL this way or you're getting more ranks ||

novel schooner
quick birch
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yeah

novel schooner
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what team does she use

quick birch
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really depends on the boss but if you're a new player you shouldnt be too concerned about if you have the right team for her, she's already nice since she'd expand your coverage

novel schooner
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is haxxor bunny good for her

quick birch
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||no with her divine key she'll have acces to the astral ring system and follow p2 team building ||

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do you know how p2 team building works ?

novel schooner
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gulp

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no..

quick birch
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it's fine if you dont were help to help you with that so dw

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!faq ring

small willowBOT
# quick birch !faq ring
Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain! AichanCool

Characters under the Astral Ring System will have one ring type (Specialization), and one or multiple tags (Attributes) that will determine how they can form teams. This system is only activated if a Character with Astral Ring is set as the leader. When activated:

  • the leader's ring type will decide the team's playstyle.
  • the team will benefit from effects (e.g., Stigmata buffs) that require Astral Ring.
  • the team will gain access to Stellar Outburst, a high damage output state you can enter after charging enough energy (Astral Ring Intensity).

Astral Ring Team Building Resources:

  • [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for a guide to Astral Ring team building fundamentals!
  • Click here to view a spreadsheet of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

quick birch
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check out the first link and then we can go over it with either || SW || or any other p2 valk you have

novel schooner
quick birch
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yeah that's what i was reffering to

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it was introduced with p2 so most call it p2 team building to distinguish it from p1

novel schooner
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i have a question

quick birch
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go ahead

novel schooner
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why is p2 so hated anyway

quick birch
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there isnt really a clear answer to this, imo it's more that people dont like new things and thought hoyo would abandon the p1 cast, the story takes some time to take off but is rather good from what i've heard. I'm not really a story enjoyer so i'm just saying what was said by lore enjoyers. I myself quite like p2 gameplay and it's mechanics but ofc this is subjective.

median frost
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Who should I choose from the s rank battle suit

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2026 one

quick birch
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long asnwer :

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!faq boxvalk

small willowBOT
# quick birch !faq boxvalk
Free S-Rank Valkyrie Box

CAPTAINNNNNNNN! AichanAngery

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for advice on the most recent S-rank option box.

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see general guidance of what to choose - mainly for old boxes you have saved up.

Short explanation:

  • Keep the box until your account is more established.
  • None of these characters are good for practical use.
  • High-end competitive players would usually choose the 23x2 ATK affix device, or...
  • If you can justify opening it, unlock a valkyrie that is not farmable and in ER if possible. Ancient Legacy farmed Valkyries that are in ER at a push.
west dust
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!faq discount

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oh poo

lyric anvil
west dust
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ohh gotcha thanks

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Lowkey just curious if things go on discount in the top up menu or only bonuses?

feral pelican
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will hi3 work on a mid laptop

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just for doing story

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on it

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i don’t wanna do it on my pc or phone so i need to find medium 🤌🤌

serene crystal
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The game should not be particularly demanding, but maybe ask #🔌technical-help for performance questions

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@feral pelican

low steppe
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Hi! Is it fine if i build herscher of the void for story with xdc stigmas?

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I can't use xdc in story

serene crystal
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You are going to get better results from using marco polo from growth regimen as most of XDC's stigs effect is unique to her.

low steppe
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Ok so this basically

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Can it clear a lot of story?

serene crystal
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And levelling her for story is fine.

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Yes, they will force you to use trial valks before it becomes a major issue.

low steppe
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I try to get valkirie blast metal

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Or not needed for story?

serene crystal
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VBm also doesn't work where XDC doesn't work

low steppe
serene crystal
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not really

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lvl 20-30 should be fine.

low steppe
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Ok, thanks!

serene crystal
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There are some part 1 locked parts where it can be worth having some more valks levelled for crystal rewards but TA,RC,SI team should deal with most of it.

low steppe
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So i should make that once i get ta?

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Which one should i pick?

low steppe
low ridge
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What team should I use for abyss I have no loa

ancient needle
feral pelican
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is HLE SENA and ME good team

ancient needle
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And that's pretty much BiS

ancient needle
feral pelican
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yeah diva as a leader

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🤌🤌🤌(ME)

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thank u

ancient needle
feral pelican
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really like her but well i probably shouldn’t pull her rn

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since she’s old and i gotta learn that😔😔

ancient needle
feral pelican
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the fact that she’s in bp says much too

ancient needle
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||She might get added to Reserve BP in 8.9-9.0 because Sena will be there next patch||

feral pelican
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||btw sena will be free free or do u need to do smth||

quick birch
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|| some quests like events or story but you wanna do the events anyway ||

feral pelican
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and what’s reserve bp it’s where u buy characters with the pink balls

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😭😭😭

hasty elbow
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Who should I get from the s rank battlesuit selector?

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Nvm i saw in pins

grim tangle
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Wasn't she released previous patch tho...

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Or is it old in hi3 terms only

shell basin
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No teammate is talking thelema there

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ME is rerunning in like a week

lyric anvil
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ME will still get reruns

tall flax
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how to use Luna LoA

shell basin
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QTE ult

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If it’s memorial arena and/or you need damage after you can also hold WA

tall flax
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its for Abyss

shell basin
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Yeah then basic LoA support

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Qte ult back to dps

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She’s not a great LoA supp other than Shushang tho

tall flax
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whats a good loa support for Badum?

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i dont have xentinel

shell basin
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FDD also great ofc

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Or Vita if ranked a lot beats FDD

tall flax
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i only have Badum, PS, HoHE, Luna for LoA

shell basin
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Oh. Then Badum PS Luna yeah

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Work with what you have

tall flax
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wooooo

floral patrol
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how long is the story duration from part 2 chapter 3 until now

charred burrow
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Depends on how fast you read, around 30-ish hours

low steppe
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Hi! What should I pick?

urban lake
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Silverwing is the reccommended option if thats what you mean

low steppe
low steppe
feral pelican
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event

feral pelican
# low steppe

someone said that everybody is equally not really useful but the middle but wait for someone

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qualified

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to answer

urban lake
# low steppe

for the fisrt image, all of them are farmable units that are no longer in the meta, they can be useful before level 81 but after that they wont have much use besides a few things like ER (a gamemode you'll unlock later)

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regarding the new unit you just pulled from the supply(Gacha), it is highly reccommended to get her signature weapon from the equipment supply

low steppe
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Yes I try my best to pity, 20 pulls left

feral pelican
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good luck

urban lake
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the stigmata can be crafted so no need to do extra pulls for them after you get the weapon

feral pelican
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the way weapon banner is such a pity gamer 😔😔

urban lake
feral pelican
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all 60 or nothing

urban lake
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well thats what gacha is LanternLollipop

low steppe
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Which event is the Vali select item more exactly?

feral pelican
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it’s bonus i think

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the gift

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on menu

low steppe
urban lake
low steppe
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Is herrscher of the void enough for story stages?

urban lake
low steppe
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I have this but at lvl 30

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Should i build something else for later stages?

thick bolt
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for non story gameplay you can have a look at this, there's a couple beginner teams listed here to use

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!faq fhm

small willowBOT
feral pelican
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is anything worth here

floral patrol
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From the S-rank battlesuit option 2026 who should i pick if i have them all at S rank

wind ember
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Should I craft Abyss or save my materials for stigs?

spiral badge
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Do you already own abyss flower? You need both before you can unlock the sync in the dorm divine key menu that gives you the passive global +10 atk.

wind ember
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Not yet

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What stigs are you considering and for what purpose? Most stigs that aren't prism stigs in foundry are quite out of date and aren't relevant outside of niche MA strats. The greater costs generally aren't worth it for their sub meta performance outside of very cheap barebone ones

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I think you can save your materials in general until you're more keen on the details, but if you have anything in mind we can discuss more

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in the long run abyss is probably higher priority but only after getting abyss flower from reserve work shop. However AF from that shop is lower in priority than other dkeys because others (except Fenghuang Down which is similar to AF) don't need a second weapon to access the +10 atk sync

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I only have Jizo, Tai Xuan, Cleaver and Judgement of Shamash and Sakura

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so the realm of battle ones and sakura from foundry.
Be mindful star of eden from realms can be confused with star of eden: anti entropy (which upgrades into star of eden: world) which is from reserve work shop. Very separate weapons.

The passive stats and buffs from dkeys are significant when reaching high in the meta but overall this is a long term project. Slowly you'll work towards

  • oath of judah from exchange shop
  • dkeys from bp reserve works
  • there's also newer gacha dkeys (||we're getting one next patch which you can consider. Details in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins||). But since these costs crystals, I would only consider these if they are new. For any reruns, I wouldn't recommend them unless you can get them with non-crystal methods
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at any rate dkeys and the passive benefits they offer aren't really a primary concern early in the game. It's good to be aware of them but don't focus too much on them for now.

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!faq fhm

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the second link does have some older commonly used stigs. However, I do NOT recommend them at this point meta-wise. Everything is too old and far below common teams nowadays. Again the only meta purpose to older foundry stigs is for highly specific strats and only when you encounter them personally.

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So crafting old stigs are not that helpful?. Is there any prism stigs that works on old Valkyries with astral ring? Or maybe I'll just play story, events and don't focus much on end game contents.

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Depends on your purposes, but loosely speaking the time and cost for them isn't worth the results you can achieve with them. I really would only consider it for people who have very specific fixations like if they really want to focus on a particular older valk or team even if they know they won't perform well nowadays in the meta

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Otherrwise the general meta recommendations is to work with very budget and cheap teams until you assemble teams of gacha valks

wind ember
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I'm just figuring HI3 after I came back. I played this year 2022 and didn't understand how the game works lol. Especially those complex terms in every aspect of the game.

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Prism stigs you can try reading the descriptions of and you'll shortly see why they aren't very suitable. They made everything with them hyper specific to their intended users

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you only get like one generic line per stig piece. If you already have them levelled up for the intended user but want to lend it to someone else who has nothing else better then sure

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but don't go out of your way building them for valks you don't already have

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Yeah. I read the description and doesn't really do anything useful for old battlesuites

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source prisms are easily a bottle neck so they should be conserved and well valued

lone kindle
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not just for old

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not even for a newer one

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for example, old coralie set doesnt work for new corealie

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and both are prism stigs, for same character

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since you're returning to the game, i'm sure you're aware that same character are still functionally different battlesuits with different purposes

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so yeah that idea hasn't really changed

lone kindle
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best example: bronya impact 3rd

lyric anvil
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So many bronya SeeleUwU

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anyway casually you really don't need to worry much about investments or meta. Story and events and tutorials still give you trials to use.

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and if you have any specific non meta goals, we can adjust as long as you let us know what they are

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but otherwise if you're interested in returning to the game more indepth, the two main things i tell to any returnee are gacha changes and astral ring team building

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sorry you can finish your thought first. I just want to get that general overview out before i jump into it more indepth later

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They're limiting prism stigs only for specific valk. And I don't want to spend just to get every gears. Most of my valks are old that's why I like to build them at least.

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you prob already have seen but note that prisms stigs are craftable. The only gacha gear is the weapon now

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Source Prism

Hi, Captain! AichanCrystals

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for more information about Prisms such as their sources!

Source Prisms are a very limited resource, so please be very careful not to waste them. They are used to upgrade and craft Part 2 Stigmata (all Part 2 Stigmata are forgeable).

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prisms do eventually overflow but again early on conserve them when you can. generally the priority is to go after 3pc effect first

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but otherwise yeah that's fine. Just don't expect strong meta performances from any older teams. If you have anything specific in mind, i can help with how to build them

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while older stuff are more accessible now, they still are costly and time consuming

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Yeah every valk seems to be consuming all your efforts for the game with low returns😅

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it's mainly the older ones. It's prob a tricky balance since these used to be premium and gacha in value loosely speaking

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so while they may be non-meta now, there's still value to them historically or sentimentally

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we can also compromise more to having budget/cheap investments of older teams on the side while not giving up too much towards meta investments too

wind ember
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I remember that I also build this one without having a second thought then found out later that she's irrelevant. I build her because I thought she was cool.

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ideally this just means using materials you're plentifully overlfowing on for barebone stuff on the non meta teams

but... there's layers we can figure out. Maybe the JST and Turg mentioned earlier can go back on the table if you need a middle ground.

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Wasting my resources lol

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she's a common early game option but yeah she's quite old

if you really really REALLY want to use her at a top level, we can discuss further. One of our mods here actually still try to use her to clear mob stages in the highest tier of abyss

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i prob don't need to say this but the reason why meta is well emphasized in this game is because that's how you get more crystals from abyss, where you compete against other players for high scores

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(mainly equipment banner)

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there's one more guide i would like to bring up but it's a big one so i'll wait for now

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I'm not that competitive but aiming for crystals.

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yeah so it kinda overlaps that way. There's layers and tiers to abyss too so you don't have to be fully casual or fully meta about this

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you just have to find the balance that works for you

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f2p wise we advise in a way that can achieve RL retention (semihighest tier) or even going between RL and Nirvana.

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can you elaborate?

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she's one of the earlier P1 valks so at her max potential she's still going to be more lacking compared to the later p1 valks

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but she's sufficient to clear through early account stuff

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Using HoV in the part 1 story felt like using bronya before the glow up

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Because bronya has literally no dmg source except for the hold + skill

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I use Mei Xentinel on Elysian Realm with Finality without having difficulties. She's good

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elysian realm is a bit different because it's more of a solo mode. Even most of the oldest valks can succeed there, and there's no tangible incentive to clear in a maximal manner.

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even VBm coralie (farmable) can handle abstinence difficulty to get the weekly 500 crystals which is all we aim for people to do regularly

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i think she's a bit more involved than just holding laser on older bronyas but overall you don't have to use HoV if you don't enjoy her. Other options like Pardofelis, HoHE, TA, etc are viable early on.

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But I don't feel like using HOV. Because newer valks are easier to use. I'm kinda disappointed since I also love Molotov Cherry but she's lacking something whenever I use her.

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yeah you don't have to use HoV if you don't like her. We can talk about others

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uh when talking about MC do you mean her original form or her augment form (Fervent Tempo Delta? aka FT)

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Her augment.

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back in the day i recall SS rank MC and 5* augment core was imperative to the meta of its time. Its most significant benefits are probably there

Fragments can be farmed from War Treasury shop. Augment cores are from asterite shop. Pins can have more info on each of these.

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What does your team for her look like?

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I'm running Stralit Astrologos and Drive Kometa

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non astral physical teams generally consist of

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  • impair inducer (HoRb seele preferably but HoS fu hua is farmable from WT currently)
  • physical support (RS durandal nowadays ideally but gacha only, but TA prometheus is next best from asterite shop)
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ok so you don't seem to have an impair applier in this team (unless DK is using briaeus Ex)

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impair is very important in physical teams since enemies in the game tend to have high defense (the stat that reduces against physical damage). Impair cuts a huge portion of it (the meta norm is like 75% def reduction for non astral ring teams)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ4vfwL7rjs this might be one of the more modern videos i can find on FT dps atm. Maybe you can observe how she plays from it

BGM - Boss (NoteBlock remix)
Her QTE is too hard to trigger so Shuijing and Ely TB were retired from this fight.

Timestamps:
Loadout - 0:00
Mobs - 0:11
SK I - 1:00
SK II - 1:25
End - 2:01

Music link: https://youtu.be/UQywhyHWWdQ

#honkaiimpact3rd #shadowknight #ferventtempodelta #rozaliya #liliya #hi3 #honkai #abyss #nirvanaabyss #nirvana #ex...

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but note this is still 2 years ago and it uses TA rather than RS

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FT is quite an old valk so iirc there are some things in her kit that aren't well utilized with relatively newer valks (no weaken status iirc that DK used to provide iirc?)

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Wow I didn't know. I'll try to Farm HoRb or HoS.

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HoS should be relatively accessible at least

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for HoRb she's currently in Reserve Work bp shop but other higher meta priorities are also there (the previously mentioned dkeys). Maybe with enough time she'll become more farmable

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Immutable Crystallums

Hey there, Captain! AichanBlink

Crystallums are a Battle Pass Currency that can be exchanged for Valkyries and Equipment in the Reserve Works. Captains who purchase Knight or Paladin BP can also access the BP Works of that patch for 3 versions.

There are 3 BP tiers offering different amounts of Crystallums as follows:
-# The totals below account for the 2 Crystallums in the Dorm Shop.

  • Vanguard (F2P) BP: 5 per patch
  • Knight BP: 18 per patch
  • Paladin BP: 24 per patch

It is recommended to spend your Crystallums on Divine Keys that you have yet to collect for permanent account-wide ATK bonuses. See the list [here](#👶beginner-help message).

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meta wise it's not recommended but up to you how meta you want to be

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if you want to keep your FTD team cheap then i would more consider HoS and TA for now.

Beware HoS' impair mainly comes from her ultimate which is sp costly. She wants an sp restoring glove for that (nebulous duality commonly used which new players can get from the beginner event nowadays)

if you don't have enough sp to cast her ult, then use her spear hold attack for 50% impair instead.

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Thanks for you help. HI3 can be overwhelming if you don't know what you're doing.

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yeah for sure. Feel free to ask for anything else but do make it clear if it's for a non-meta purpose. People default to that otherwise since that's where the crystals are

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also check out pins here for many commonly asked info

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one last thing

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Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain! AichanCool

Characters under the Astral Ring System will have one ring type (Specialization), and one or multiple tags (Attributes) that will determine how they can form teams. This system is only activated if a Character with Astral Ring is set as the leader. When activated:

  • the leader's ring type will decide the team's playstyle.
  • the team will benefit from effects (e.g., Stigmata buffs) that require Astral Ring.
  • the team will gain access to Stellar Outburst, a high damage output state you can enter after charging enough energy (Astral Ring Intensity).

Astral Ring Team Building Resources:

  • [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for a guide to Astral Ring team building fundamentals!
  • Click here to view a spreadsheet of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

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if you ever want to look more into newer teams, esp with your XDC mei, give this a thorough read. Ask if there's anything you don't understand well

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anyway i do need to head off for now but others can still help if you still got questions (or you can ping me to come back to later). Welcome back to HI3~

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let’s say from 1k crystals can i get rita and her weapon saving from today till the end of the rita’s banner

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with monthly

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and doing the story but not like really stressing about it, bc rn i’m just so stressed and i think i should do just grind grind grind

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talking about ME

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Depends on how far you're into Part 1 story

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Eh, could be tight even if you're not far

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i’m on 17 ep

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don’t like the sound of that

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i’m able to clear er to 20000 points, do abyss or smth that gives me 320 crystals and the q smth thing to ss

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so i could also try get the 400 crystals from the characters on er

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i lowk skipped 1st chapter of er i’ll just redo it when ill be on this part

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i didn’t really do or finish the on going events

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Hi

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I got the

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Elysia

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Battlesuit

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Like ik she's a cryo sd res breaker

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But like

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Is she a dps

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Or smth

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Because I could play her like songque

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Idk i dont understand her kit well

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if she's the leader, she's the dps

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So

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The bonus that the team and her

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Varies by which astral ring thingy

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Per leader

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Tbf sounds pretty versatile

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And when she's the leader and when she uses the weapon skill or basic attack everyone in the team gets the "heart splendor thing

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Which boosts

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Dmg
Did I get it right

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yes

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if she's a support, she triggers it by hitting qte or her weapon skill

cold wing
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And her weapon

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1- It just deals more dmg when equiped by this elysia
2-restores sp back to 150 when it is below that

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And gains sp bonuses

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Right?

outer spruce
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the sp part is important because she needs 150 sp to charge ult fully

cold wing
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But I didnt get her cycle

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Because i didnt do the tutorial

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And ended up doing much less dmg

outer spruce
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well it's good that you're actually reading the descriptions, most people don't do that

cold wing
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I keep falling to agony 2

outer spruce
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I have a bunch so far i have 4 piece pergerine sword,4 piece miss espionage, 4 piece lone planet farer and 4 piece hi love elf

gloomy maple
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what are some of the best ways to get crystals as a beginner? i really want elysia thats on banner and im at 59 for her

cold wing
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Save

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Its due to 9 days

gloomy maple
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huh?

outer spruce
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thank you! if im missing a few pulls at the end i think ill just top up

outer spruce
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you can look at this

gloomy maple
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thank you!

cold wing
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Open world dosnt give shi tbh

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But if you got time to spare

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Go ahead

gloomy maple
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ah i dont have any friends to do whatever code that is😭

outer spruce
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you can put your codes here

cold wing
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Keep in mind

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Its not the end of the world most characters get reruns

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So save well before an update

gloomy maple
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yeah true, but it would take months for her to come back right?

cold wing
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If u cannot guarantee enough for both weapon/valk skip over

gloomy maple
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does pity not save?

cold wing
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It does

gloomy maple
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phew

cold wing
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For both weapons and battlesuit gachas

cold wing
gloomy maple
cold wing
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At least you have striker

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This could get u 400 in shallow sequence

gloomy maple
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whats that?

cold wing
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Idk bout pardo leme check

outer spruce
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pardo's good

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she's also in er

cold wing
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Give me a min

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How come Luna support is worse than PS support for Badum TeriThink

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Switched them around and i got a worse score by a difference of 40 points

outer spruce
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Even HoHe is better despite being one of the worst LoA support

gloomy maple
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is there a way to make the game stop going to sleep mode on mobile? if i leave the game open for just a moment too long it keeps turning black

gloomy maple
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1-By striker I mean valkery blade strike and pardo is the reverist calico battle suit
2-you can get about 450 gems per new character simply by playing with the trial version
3-at the end of the video I showed you that that mei is simply valkery bladestrike with a outfit that you can unlock with her core and NOT a different mei valk
Bonus fact :if u decide to level her up and play with her you could unlock her emblem in the trials but it is not mandatory

outer spruce
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4-if u want to level her up in the elysian realm simply playing the deep sequence should do and you get gems from that

cold wing
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You should get enough

outer spruce
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alright thank you for everything! this game is so confusing sometimes😭

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Check the vid toward the start i get told that i dont sometimes

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I have been playing since 2023

outer spruce
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mhm! ill just focus on getting more crystals for now, they just had to rerun her when i was still saving up..

gloomy maple
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yeah, i was hoping id have more time but i only got like 20 pulls worth

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Well my advice dont feel pressured to gather more crystals this early on like its the only purpose of the game

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Dont forget to enjoy the game/ what hi3 gives you

gloomy maple
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of course! im also making sure to focus on story while i do it, though sometimes it gets a little confusing haha

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the auto skip feature bugs me a lot..

cold wing
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Because gacha burnout is real

gloomy maple
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yep, i play many so it happens to me a lot but ive finally gotten back into this game so now im trying to learn all the mechanics and stuff

cold wing
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feel free to ask questions if you don't understand something

cold wing
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yeah i think nows a good time..how do i get over there?-

cold wing
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Alr i wont spoil enjoy

gloomy maple
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welp thats totally not scary at all

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im running around like a headless chicken i cant figure it out

cold wing
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the guide is telling me to go that way

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and i cant go through the bridge

cold wing
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sure!

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i was told to save up because my account is super old, which im fine with doing SALUTEEE but is there someone specific im saving up for?

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# hexed path i was told to save up because my account is super old, which im fine with doing ...

you're not really saving for anyone particular but rather saving for a new 4/4 valk, generally once you have 30k crystals at patch start you should be fine with pulling, if you dont get the valk, while keeping your crystals above the amount you need to guarantee the weapon, you can either get the valk + weapon during the patch or save the pity for the next new valk and get her instead.

|| since the next patch only has a divine key and not a new valkyrie you only need 16.8k crystals to guarantee that ||

generally the idea of recovering new accounts is, saving up until you can guarantee a 4/4 valk -> pull her at patch start -> repeat so that you keep up with new releases while you wait for older units to fall out of meta

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The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain? aFuHuaWicked

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

  • Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k Crystal) vs 78 pulls (22k Crystal)
  • Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k Crystal)
  • Worst Case:
  • Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k Crystal) vs 150 pulls (42k Crystal)
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have a look at this for how much you can anticipate to spend on a valk, generally we want to approach pulling with a more conversation approach and anticipate that you will end up spending 30-42k crystals

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hence why we recommend to have 30k on patch start

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i see

have we just entered a new patch? or am i like midpatch and this is just anniversary

quick birch
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we're like halfway through the patch, the next patch will start on the 30th april iirc

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do we know who the next patch start valk is?

quick birch
# hexed path do we know who the next patch start valk is?

|| the next patch wont have a new valk but only a divine key for Silverwing, we already have a teaser for the 8.9 valk but we dont know much more than that it looks like it will be a new seele battlesuit. we're currently in 8.7 btw ||

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||oh ya, some guy told me to get sw because she's getting new gear. i did get her, is it worth aiming for that dkey? or should i just wave it off and wait for 8.9 do you think||

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||it's tru my acc is very old, i haven't even entered p2 i dont think . but my old ice team is very well invested so i'll see what i can do||

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p2 team building in general just works differently and unless the valk has some specific skill for that they're mostly uncompatible with p1 valks

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p1 valks work as cope supports sure but they're generally worse because they cant interact with certain mechanics of p2 valks

hexed path
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mayn, i dont like the look of the p2 As KRFacepalm but it is what it is . ill just use my old one temporarily before returning to the frag mines

quick birch
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you'll replace them eventually if you just keep playing

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new p2 valks will have the supportive capabilities those would bring you and more depending on the team

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if you'd like i can link you a p2 team building guide so you can get the basics but it's fine if you dont really wanna engage with it until you actually have || SW's dkey ||

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i should probably see it, i'll have the link thumb

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Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain! AichanCool

Characters under the Astral Ring System will have one ring type (Specialization), and one or multiple tags (Attributes) that will determine how they can form teams. This system is only activated if a Character with Astral Ring is set as the leader. When activated:

  • the leader's ring type will decide the team's playstyle.
  • the team will benefit from effects (e.g., Stigmata buffs) that require Astral Ring.
  • the team will gain access to Stellar Outburst, a high damage output state you can enter after charging enough energy (Astral Ring Intensity).

Astral Ring Team Building Resources:

  • [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for a guide to Astral Ring team building fundamentals!
  • Click here to view a spreadsheet of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

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just check out the top link

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feel free to ask further questions about it if you have some, it's a bit confusing to a lot of people at first but once you got the basics down it's rather simple

floral patrol
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how to get xuanyuan sword

covert notch
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I have so much Asterite , should I use it to upgrade Helia and Coralie synch weapon

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Or should I go for upgrading A rank Valks

lyric anvil
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hmm guess ill wait and see , and it not in bp reserve, just checked

shadow gyro
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its fairly gatekept for some reason

lyric anvil
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They really like gatekeeping it lol

shadow gyro
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its last apperances where in a dkey box in 8.4 and 7.6 so

shadow gyro
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Have a feeling though Xys is older than Brick SeeleUwU

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But likely what hoyo will do

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way older its an ancient divine key

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Holy

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Is it the oldest Divine Key? Or would that go to Shamah LanternHeavyThoughts

shadow gyro
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for reference LanternHeavyThoughts

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Yeah Luna patch

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Ah

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is this set ok for HoTr or get signiture? i have 30 pink orbs(want 10 for a weopen in next patch) or wait if coming in future armory? i use Trio(kiana divine key)

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# floral patrol is this set ok for HoTr or get signiture? i have 30 pink orbs(want 10 for a weop...

sounds like this is hotr as support if you're using her in trio.
i don't think turg m doesn't makes any sense. Maybe review what it does and what 3pc offers.
trio with dkey doesn't make it clear if you mean HoFi main dps or HoO main dps. The latter is kinda rare but is a proven concept
do you already own all reserve work shop dkeys? if not then that's probably main priority for meta purposes. If not meta then you'll need to elaborate what your goals are.

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meta purpose easy clear abyss

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also what astral op or elf are you using this with? If you're using this with kiana elf, then some strats may involve a second HoO swap in for an extended rotation but i have no idea if turg can last that long

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people would generally (edit: aim to) score well enough against other players and reach for red lotus retention

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well my teams are abit lacking in weop, so i have only used the trio(kiana as dps)the simpe Hotr>HoO>HoFin rotations

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in the future try to ensure getting valk weapons. If you have to consider getting something partial, i rather you stop completely so you can better guarantee what's afterward

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as for Dkey im missing 5 (have two boxes but confused to choose)

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boxes you can continue holding on to until you get the remaining dkeys in other ways where the box can clean out the rest

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!faq keep

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# spiral badge !faq keep
General Item Usage

Hello, Captain! Ai-chan is here to explain why keeping option boxes is sometimes the best choice. AichanWave

If you immediately select an option from a box without actually needing what it provides, you may put yourself at a disadvantage by wasting a source of materials that you fall short of later on.

This applies to almost every option box such as:

  • Stigma Option boxes
  • Material Option boxes
  • Blazing Assembly Option (ELF Option box)
    • ELF Part Option boxes
  • Weapon Option boxes (Divine Key or Beginner Weapon Option box)

Before selecting something from a selection box, think twice if you actually need what is offered and if you really need it right now!
-# Opening boxes is justified if you need those materials to upgrade gear and achieve a higher score in the current cycle of competitive gamemodes. Ask our Professors if you think you have an exceptional case!

floral patrol
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at any rate since you said you're being meta,** i'm going to say no don't spend them for hotr stigs.**

Finish up any remaining dkeys you don't have that are there (excluding judah and sakura since you can get them elsewhere)

But also even if you assemble this team, HoFi or HoO main dps aren't highly stressed in abyss anymore. If you encounter a specific situation that encourages them specifically then maybe consider it. But otherwise you already own ME rita to handle more contemporary img scenarios (direct replacement to HoO even)

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XDC's weapon is fine to chase after. But give up on HoO's weapon meta wise

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in the future try to get the new patch valk with her weapon early in the patch. I think you have quite enough astral ring valks that you can start using other teams than just trio

floral patrol
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yes im missing XDc's weopwn and got the HoO and HoTr weopen, im a apart 1 player actually

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and new releases tend to be emphasized in abyss early in the patch

floral patrol
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alright ill prioritize on new valk coming up and the pink orbs for the remaining dks

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part 1 doesn't really mean anything at this point. Pretty much all their top use cases have been converted to part 2 or snuffed out completely

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the main relevance are ||any ranks you have farmed or built up on them if they get a new dkey. Check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins for more details.||

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keep in mind i'm only saying meta wise. I understand the sentiments but try to only spend excessive materials if you still must do so.

floral patrol
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ok understood really appreciate the guidance

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if you want non-meta help, i'm down to help in that direction as well as long as it's made clear

floral patrol
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my main focus is only abyss thats all, i just wanna easily stay in top to get the crystals

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tho i always fall to agony II

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this is current team

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that's not what a rotation is. You're just showing me a team

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a rotation refers to cycling valks in a specific manner

floral patrol
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yeah sorry meant to say my team

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from what i had is this the best i could have used?

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to put simply i just wanna know from my current rosters what can i use to get the highest ranking possible

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# floral patrol my main focus is only abyss thats all, i just wanna easily stay in top to get th...

the main **general **advice for that is really just save up crystals to ~40k to afford a new release valk with her weapon early in the patch.

If you cannot, then just skip to better prepare for the one after. Technically if you miss something early, yes you have the rest of the patch to complete it. However I don't recommend this because again abyss emphasis for the specific release are early in the patch, and the idea of pulling is to get 100% mileage out of their meta lifespan.

I don't expect you to get every new release either if you're f2p. Generally on average you'll afford most valks this way though and only skip once in a while. With how abyss rapidly cycles many situations the idea is to get enough valks and teams to cover most of them. In some cases, you can even get away with RL retain with the second best option too.

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weapons are very important because they generally offer

  • 30-40% of the valk's personal damage. Too much to lose when using them as a main dps
  • some weapons may provide important utility to the valk too
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in some cases you can still use a weaponless valk as a support though. I would consider this for any p2 gacha valk you already have but don't have the weapon for

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and overall give up on spending crystals to catch up on their weapon reruns. You're not getting 100% mileage for your buck at that point after all

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anyway sorry i'll get back to what else you're asking. One second

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You really should be using FWS main dps (make her leader) this abyss cycle

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thats my case for vita and badum(support using other weops), and sure np take ur time , i really appreciate all this info

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oh i see FWS doens't have her signature weapon. Hm

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Fiery Wishing Star

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the badum SD kiana

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we have a link to the glossary in the pins for future reference

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!faq glossary

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floral patrol
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yes she doesnt...i use her and vita sooo much but theydont have weop

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It might still be worth it but give me a minute to review some things

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for your case, you're only losing like 20% damage with that weapon alternative

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and FWS is stressed this abyss cycle because not only is she SD typing where she has type counter bonus on the bulkier mobs and can interact with them in special ways (shard gathering and reducing their max hp by 8%), she also can link multiple mobs together for more damage

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Plus the weather bonus
But not the topic

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ah true

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wtf this is flux and not bloodthirsty weather? lol

lyric anvil
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Yeah

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but yeah your current team with PAWS leader is grail of infinitude

floral patrol
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so you miss out on the last line where it wants a law of ascension leader

floral patrol
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hmm....

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for supports, probably use XDC mei at least. I'm not fully sure on who is best for the last one

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ok understood but either way this patch i dont believe ill get (im f2p) and 31 pulls away from XDC weopen ill see if i get cuz i dont have pulls at all, next patchi gotta save up

so ill just focus with what i have

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normally i would pick vita but your vita is weaponless and for an LoA team against the bio mobs especially here, you might actually want her personal damage more

lyric anvil
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BiS is FWS XDC FDD/Vita

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yeah but that doesn't apply to their case

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they don't have FDD

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and their vita is weaponless

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i would still give vita a try at least

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but i'm more open to trying out rita and PAWS helia as well

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ALgiht
FSW-XDC-Vita

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just mention the teams ill try them all and see where high score

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Since they're in a2 I'd imagine that they can kinda just play around vita and not use her stellar shift while still enjoying the DMG bonus she provides because of breach conversion. From a DPS standpoint I'd assume that FWS/xdc/vita performs the best

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# floral patrol ALgiht FSW-XDC-Vita

you might even try out PAWS and ME supports instead of XDC and Vita since they actually have their weapons. But also this is only agony 2.

I feel i would lean more towards XDC and ME overall

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it might not even matter too much

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even if vita's damage is sufficient i feel she might also be too slow in pure animations too

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and ME iirc is quite fast for some of her animations

quick birch
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Yeah, idt they'd really need her on field though. They can kinda just gather the mobs at the beginning for SP and ult and then refresh her buffs with SO

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I don't really know how squishy a2 is but I'd imagine that this should work fine

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yeah maybe

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oh i'm also going to say, we briefly brought up rotations earlier but a pure constant rotation prob isn't going to work best here

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  • you would still set up support effects early
  • the mobs have a specific order in how they are spawned
  • only four show up at a time
  • SD mobs are the most notable at the third and fourth or so waves and the last wave so you really want to be on FWS at that point
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hmm alright im gonna proces all do this in abit
FSW-Paw-ME
FSW-XDC-Vita
rotations support first and well ill see how it goes in battle last wave must have FSW

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qaOeM5Chu8 maybe you can loosely refer to this

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look at the dreamseeker version

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(theresa op gives them an extra kiana super qte that you won't get. I don't recommmend catching up on theresa op at this point either)

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it's not going to be a complete one to one match but you can substitute somewhat accordingly if you understand how to trigger the support's buff effects from their stig 3pc

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tbh stardust mobs is prob one of the trickier abyss in the game. Feel free to show us any recording of your playing too

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if you upload it to youtube, be mindful what name is on your youtube account though

quick birch
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If you're not familiar with the mechanics you want to keep in mind while playing LoA give this a read

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!Faq LoA

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Astral Ring Specialization - Law of Ascension

Allow me to explain, Captain! AichanCool

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see how the Law of Ascension Specialization works!

The "Law of Ascension" (LoA) Astral Ring Specialization focuses on triggering QTEs. The tag/attribute matching with this ring type is ["Heavenly Shift"](#👶beginner-help message). Specific attacks from the leader can reset swap cooldowns and force trigger QTEs from "Heavenly Shift" supports, and vice versa. This allows the team to rapidly cycle across each other.

floral patrol
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ok got it... this is alot to go through hahaha😂 but understood, i know what i gotta do now

quick birch
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Yeah it's definitely a bit to take in so take your time and come back if you have any further questions

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some of it may need actual playing to really understand too

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feel free to ask specific questions as they come up

floral patrol
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i just some atks however it seemed to fit for now

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ill continue tonight as thats when the ranks finalize so i wont be replaced LanternHeavyThoughts

fierce cave
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I recently found one of my old accounts and i wanna get back into the game i was thinking of restarting and i like the 2 characters on the supply thing rn

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Do i just restart?

shadow gyro
fierce cave
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Im not sure nor am i sure how to checkAdoDead

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A whole lot of buttons.

shadow gyro
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for pulls and pity just screenshot the battlesuit and equipment supply

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as for stuff you finished you can at least tell me which story chapter did you stop at and if you started elysian realm

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How much dias do i need to save up before i can pull im a new account, and does the pity from mei banner carry over im trying to get her.

Also i just got the egg what do i pick there

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# fierce cave

Doesn’t help figure out where in part 1 story you are but otherwise yeah pretty barren

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If you’re willing to reroll I think a new account would be stronger, if not it’ll be tight to get Mei before her banner goes away

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And if you can’t get her then your old account will be much less painful for the next while since it’ll have real Valkyries

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Thanks !

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# fierce cave

oh by story i meant you click on story icon and you go to chapter 1 (bottom left) and you look at the chapter % and you tell me where you stopped
for example if you did everything up to chapter 13 then you can say "i stopped at chapter 13"

also you can try using the discounted pull on mei but don't do anything else until you tell if you got mei or not

fierce cave
odd plume
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what is a good team to deal with the side stage if no QUA?

lone crater
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ur strongest team

odd plume
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i dont even know what is my strongest team BEPat

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tried new mei, feel kinda bad

odd plume
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nvm, Coralie work fine

low steppe
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Hi! I managed to get the weapon. What is next?

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I am lvl 43

ancient needle
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||When you get the valk box pick Silverwing from it, she'll get a new gear set next patch||

low steppe
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What about the selectors now?

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What teamshould I build?

ancient needle
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!faq egg

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S-Rank Valkyrie Option

Hello, Captain! AichanWave

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see the in-depth explanation of what to choose!

Ai-chan recommends that you keep this egg until you have two from the following: Shadow Knight, Sixth Serenade and Goushinnso Memento. When you own two, unlock the one you are still missing.

ancient needle
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Can pick Purana from the weap box

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Keep it at lvl 35

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AL from the AW/AL box

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Pick frags from the frag box according to the Asterite priority

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!faq asterite

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low steppe
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Thanks! So the egg I keep for now

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If I have multiple of the same stigma for xdc, do they merge ? Synthetize?

ancient needle
low steppe
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And xdc with her weapon and stigmas

ancient needle
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While you don't have Tsiolkovsky (VBm's stig set) you can run whatever TM Ogier B on VBm and Glut T FHM MB on TA

low steppe
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Ok, thanks!

tribal gale
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is schicksal's imperative worth it to pull for? only good chara i have rn is xenitel mei

shell basin
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No dps use without her weapon either

low sorrel
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Is Chenxue better than ELF Kiana for the trio team?

tribal gale
shell basin
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In general it’s kind of silly to roll for weapon before getting the valk tho

tribal gale
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aight im just gonna start saving gems now

tribal gale
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i didnt expect it to be her weap ._.

tribal gale
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Everyone in war treasury is dead besides HoHE (if you have her dkey) and ||Silverwing, who is getting a dkey next patch||

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Advice for AL is to get silverwing and AW is just whatever valks you don’t have for Elysian realm unlocks

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War Treasury Farming

Hey, Captain! AichanBlush

Click [here](#👶beginner-help message) to see the War Treasury Farming Recommendation, which is kept updated!

Short Answer:

  • If there are limited-time discounts on character cards, buy them ASAP!
  • Prioritise buying character cards of Valkyries that are in Elysian Realm.
  • After that, unlock everyone else for dorm progression.
tribal gale
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did they also remove the conversion from the willpower to legacy?

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cant seem to find it anymore/

shell basin
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Only doable via PWOs afaik

tribal gale
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i forgot a lot of the terms in this game 😢

shell basin
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Pure witch orbs

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For when you get an S rank to SSS

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And then get more frags

tribal gale
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i see

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is there even a good ancient willpower character rn?

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or is it for collecting characters you like?

shell basin
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So it’s just for collecting for Elysian realm or love

tribal gale
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!faq breakthrough

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Breakthrough

Hello, Captain! AichanWave

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for more information regarding Breaking through to Exalted (Captain Level 81+).

Short Answer:

  • It is highly recommended to break through for better rewards, but be aware that it is irreversible!
shell basin
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Basically probably yes but in the short term it might drop your crystals a bit so you could consider waiting for next patch

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Depends on how you’re doing in masters abyss

steep drift
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atm I have SS2 Bronya with ten left till SS3. Should I buy fragments to prep for ||DK|| or get ELF fragments for PB (currently can just get elf +46 ELF parts )

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Also if I have HLE and sync1 SS1 HoHe, do I just do all pure ice content with HLE? (dragon/fox/etc)?

wicked cargo
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There are no A rank battlesuits that ever got astral ring dkeys right?

shadow gyro
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nope

worldly crystal
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Anyone know if this weapon is still viable for love elf or should I just go for her weapon?

serene crystal
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You can cope with it if she is support but you really want her proper weapon for decent dps results.

kind hull
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is there any way to get fully custom controller keybinds? i really dislike the automatic ones

vivid horizon
kind hull
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thanks, i was looking at the key bindings tab and was confused

feral pelican
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is there any place i can see how i should do story in order?

ancient needle
feral pelican
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thank u very much

plain dove
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Hi

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I had started like one month back but had to reset my phone came back today.
I am new and I can't understand few things

glad ice
plain dove
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And the marks appearing on my characters back come because of stigma?

glad ice
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genshin artifact, yes. part2 make them exclusive for each valks. there are also some farmable/craftable stig sets that may work for low levels

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yes each stig has unique symbol and they will appear on ur valk's back in order from Top-Mid-Bottom

plain dove
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I have 7 characters right now

quick birch
# plain dove Ohk So are sigma like artifacts ?

In the sense that they are equipment yes but tbh other than that they are vastly different generally I wouldn't try to compare those 2 game that much since they function different at a core level

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!faq fhm

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How do I get alot of weapons do i have pull on weapon supply?

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exclusive means there are effects that only activate when the exclusive valk equip them. if u equip on other valk those effects wont activate

quick birch
# plain dove How do I get alot of weapons do i have pull on weapon supply?

To get the signature weapon of a Valkyrie you pull on the weapon banner yes, this is not negotiable you always want to pull a Valkyrie with their signature without it you're loosing out on a lot of DPS + utility sometimes also big parts of their kit.

Though for the start weapons you get form the starter manual or just the standard weapons will do

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u need to be quick though, starter manual start countdown from the day of ur first login. which u said it was 1 month ago

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or try reroll

plain dove
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reroll mean new acc and u can try to gamble with a few first pulls. if u cant get the promoted items, new acc again

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there's guide too

quick birch
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It's not a necessity though it's really up to you, even on your current account you should be able to complete the starter manual but getting enough for Mei + weapon could be a bit tough

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!Faq reroll

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About Rerolling

Hey there, Captain! AichanBlink

Please see Professor Lyo's summary of rerolling [here](#👶beginner-help message)! Also see the Returnee Accounts pin [here](#👶beginner-help message) to see why restarting is recommended and remember, whether you want to reroll is completely your decision!

"Rerolling" refers to the process of restarting accounts until you obtain the target character/equipment within the first 10 supply pulls - not to be confused with "restarting", which is simply starting a new account and sticking with it regardless of luck.

quick birch
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If you're interested check this out though

glad ice
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will save u thousands of crystal depend on ur luck kewk

plain dove
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I guess I'll just restart because I mostly don't remember anything

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Plus I only completed one chapter till now so not issue right?

quick birch
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Yeah sounds like a solid plan

plain dove
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My online friends basically said get into hi3rd if you like lore and good story

feral pelican
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the gameplay is pretty sick
too with the new characters

quick birch
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The lore is pretty nice but I do enjoy the gameplay aspect a lot so maybe you'll end up enjoying it too VelionaShrug

glad ice
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styx rate hi3 A+ to S btw, among wuwa, genshin, pgr and etc

quick birch
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But just playing for lore is also fine ofc

plain dove
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Okay I'll do the tutorial

cold wing
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Yo mango

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Wsp also quick question

quick birch
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Just ask go ahead

glad ice
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manwent when

cold wing
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Those reroll things

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I forgor what they were called

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The ones that u can get for 80 tier 3 pyro/physical/electro/ice

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The things in the shop

glad ice
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they aren't good anw. 17~20 max

cold wing
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Should I add them according to the type of character, like for example the imaginary one guarantees 20 or something attack

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Thats the only one that I've tried and it was on miss espionage

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Do others have diferent effects such as crit or something or all they all the same

quick birch
glad ice
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lol dont try using them for other type or that's wasted

cold wing
thick bolt
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Fine to use them if you're okay with the lower attack stats than what is possible from manual rerolling.
Good alternative in case of lack of ncc's/locks or if it's tedious to roll affixes

quick birch
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^ if you don't plan on engaging in nirvana you can use them since you won't need the best attack stats in RL but if you do wanna pursue nirvana you'd want to stick to manual rerolling eventually

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Affixes in the general scheme also don't matter that much below nirvana, for RL one good line per stig is fine

plain dove
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congrat. now u need to rush enough crystal for her weapon (and stig)

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new player has many sources so it is totally possible

hardy lintel
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guys are the servers down or something?

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im trying to log in but it just not working

hardy raft
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I have Xentiel Mei Sig "Dawnlight of Qilin" It said i can PRI-ARM it into "DoQ: Peaceful Age"

Should i? I still don't understand this system very much, and I don't know if this will make the weapon worse or better

shell basin
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Pri arming a weapon makes it stronger

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These days you always want to pri arm weapons if you can afford it

hardy raft
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Which stats should i refine on Xentiel stigmata?

floral patrol
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which open world adventure tasks bestchances gives crystals?

shell basin
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Crit damage is a little worse but you can keep it if you get a good line

shell basin
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Sakura Samara is by far the worst

shell basin
shell basin
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That’s pretty low

hardy raft
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What team do i make with what i have right now?

shell basin
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The reason is that XDC and HLE are Grail of Infinitude Valkyries, which means they want symbiosis supports

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However your only other symbiosis support is the other one, so the third member is instead an RoO Valkyrie as a cope option

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Which gets leader skills but doesn’t unlock the full team synergy

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Hofi also gives additional buffs to XDC because XDC has a buff for Kiana on the team

hardy raft
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I have Hofi Divine Key tho

shell basin
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Yeah

grim tangle
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Do yall think its possible to gurantee ||sw dkey|| with just the abyss and dailies

shell basin
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That makes her a RoO support

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Without it she’d be worse than VBM but with it she’s better for XDC and usually better for HLE

shell basin
grim tangle
shell basin
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3 weeks until next patch, ||silverwing banner|| lasts 6 weeks, so you have 9 weeks. You need about 10k crystals. Should be enough to get her in 4 weeks ish, so with plenty of time to spare

grim tangle
shell basin
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||Youyun astral op and reruns||

grim tangle
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Alrighty

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Ty

shadow gyro
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which HoSHmm the rest of the affixes are atk

eager cape
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Good beginner stigmatas that are grindable?

eager cape
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So are this two good? Should I max out everything?

shadow gyro
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calm baby isnt good

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the rest is fine

eager cape
eager cape
shadow gyro
eager cape
shadow gyro
shadow gyro
eager cape
low matrix
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Havent logged in for a while, what is there in game rn?

shadow gyro
low matrix
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By in a while i mean january, storage issues TT

eager cape
shadow gyro
shadow gyro
low ridge
jolly heath
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How to get 7 thunders:narukami?

ancient needle
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Then max it and craft Narukami in Foundry

shell basin
# low ridge What teams

you can try Luna FDD paws Mobius, Sonq HLE Thelema Epernay, Mei Vita VBM Kallen?
Or Luna FDD Paws Mobi, HLE Mei Vita Epernay, Sonq Thele VBM Kallen?
If you have p1 phys for Kallen there's more options

serene epoch
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Does someone know from which country i should install hi3 in apple store to get eu server?

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Germany or smth?

wintry wharf
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use italy