👶beginner-help

[trail obsidian]

4 months ago

[sweet flax]

he edits the message

instead of typing a new one every single time

[trail obsidian]

make sense

[sweet flax]

• you can tell its updated anyways when its the current patch

[trail obsidian]

also random user in vc are ghost profiles allowed here

[sweet flax]

no idea, never payed attention to that

[trail obsidian]

il send it to mods anyways

[sweet flax]

but I have seen multiple "ghost profiles" if you mean blank pfp or usernames

and it doesnt seem to bother people

[trail obsidian]

some servers have issues with them cus they make moderation hard

you cant ping a ghost name

witch makes bots useless like ai chan bot

[storm lantern]

you'll be good on weapon but you might get it late into the patch

[sweet flax]

^^

[trail obsidian]

please link website

[sweet flax]

I wouldnt worry too much about that unless said people do cause issues in which case you can ban them by their discord id which cannot be hidden

[storm lantern]

it's the crystal income calculator in the pins

[sweet flax]

check these 2 out btw

[sweet flax]

also keep in mind the calc doesnt factor events, codes or other 1 time crystal sources

realistically if they are keeping up with crystal farming they wont have to wait till the last week

[trail obsidian]

this was how much it predicts

[sweet flax]

you are in sinful?

[trail obsidian]

yes becuase i have 0 part 2 characters i cant really defeat even agony 1 level 1

i meant agony

[sweet flax]

dsa vbm and vbs can easily retain a2, there is something very wrong if they cant...

does dsa have her weapon

[trail obsidian]

no i i only have forged stuff and borrowed stigma

[sweet flax]

ok that makes much more sense

[quick birch]

so dsa does not have her signature stigs ?

[sweet flax]

how many source prisms do you have right now btw

[quick birch]

also ether fuel

[trail obsidian]

9

[sweet flax]

. . . ye crafting her stigs is out of the quesiton

just prioritise gearing fdd ig

does vbm have tsiolkovsky stigmata? we got it for free in 7.3 iirc

[trail obsidian]

this is the first one

this is the 2nd one

[quick birch]

get coralies weapon from p2 story

[sweet flax]

vbm's weapon is free in the p2 story

[barren badge]

i was gonna say that

[sweet flax]

its the thought that counts

[trail obsidian]

are my stigma good

[sweet flax]

for coralie? yes its her signature

[quick birch]

vbm's yes sena's no

[barren badge]

On coralie? Hell yeah
On sena? Heck no

[sweet flax]

her weapon? no please do get her weapon from p2 story 🙏
senadina doesnt matter because she wont be able to dps without her weapon so rely on fdd for that next patch

[barren badge]

But don t feel bad. Remember that the next valkyrie in 8.4 coralie works well with A rank coralie

[storm lantern]

sena is gonna be completely useless for you indefinitely so no point in crafting her stigs

[barren badge]

We don t talk about vita or Hofinality

[sweet flax]

technically speaking paws is the important one not just the other roo valks

[barren badge]

When an A rank dog has more use than you, a very lore important character,

[trail obsidian]

i use HoH/O on finality

[storm lantern]

coralie is just god

[barren badge]

True that. I will use vita since paws ran away from me

[trail obsidian]

anyways im surprised Hoh is still a cheat code for abyss

[barren badge]

Oh elysian realm yeah that s nice.... BUT CAN YOU BEAT MY SCORE THO

[sweet flax]

I mean anything works in sinful of all places

[sweet flax]

why did you score so late

smh slaccer

[trail obsidian]

BRO WTTF

how

[sweet flax]

abuse the new er mechanic

[trail obsidian]

1 minute

[trail obsidian]

and what would that be????

[storm lantern]

she's not even good with her new weapon that gives her astral ring

[sweet flax]

@upbeat egret

im back

[storm lantern]

why not 822

[barren badge]

SS HoO. 1538 attack. The ammount of resets i had to do for 3 kalpas core 1. 3 fu huas core 2. And 3 elysia - 2 of them being guaranteed on floor 7 thanks to item (specifically lethal smite, ultra and inscription)

[trail obsidian]

no she is great without her astral ring i beat levels in about 20 to 50 secoonds

[barren badge]

That s agony 1 brother. I bet i could use B rank.himeko and score pretty well

[storm lantern]

you're in sinful and a2 is considered the casual rank

[barren badge]

A3*

[sweet flax]

a2*

[barren badge]

For me A3 feels casual

[trail obsidian]

what is varible arms btw

explain

[sweet flax]

a3 feels casual because that's where most beginners end up

even rl feels casual btw

[barren badge]

Player: gets flame chaser nexus signets
Vill v: here s that flame chaser inspired weapon
Variable arms: ALL WEAPONS, FIRE!

[sweet flax]

a2 and lower is full of players who dont care about the competitive game or just go afk

[barren badge]

Look mr cat. I m not the best to give advice..but get dragon coralie. And focus on newer units. Forget about older units

[sweet flax]

we already covered that tyvm

[barren badge]

[trail obsidian]

ok yeah im going to need a video on tthis cus im legit confused

[sweet flax]

more or less going over their crystal situation

[sweet flax]

just an external damage source that scales with unique signets obtained

[trail obsidian]

this is my current setup for her is this good

[barren badge]

Again. Get 3 signets of a flame chaser = +1 variable arm
If i get 3 kevin i get kevin variable arm
If i get 3 aponia it s aponia variable arm
You can have 13 variable arms. One for each flame chaser. All weapons attack constantly.

[sweet flax]

dont have her weapon? also what are you using her for

[trail obsidian]

so basicly if i get 3 signets the enhanced signet is the varable arm aka the additional reward

[barren badge]

thank god you can get HoO weapon with BP balls

[barren badge]

Yes

But it s not enhanced signet. It s the core

Or nexus whatever it s called

[trail obsidian]

yes is core what is the varable arm

[barren badge]

Variabke arm is just bonus suport weapon that s it

And on monday IT WILL BE GONE! back to regular ER runs

[trail obsidian]

and when using this how much more damage is it

[sweet flax]

depends how many variable arms you have and which you choose

each flamechaser has a unique one

[trail obsidian]

well i mainline Herrsher of human

[sweet flax]

why would you get it when dkeys are there as well

[barren badge]

if you pick the option that in reases their damage by a lot. But reduces valk damage by 95%. Even your unleveled p1 valkyries can clear within 2 minutes

[sweet flax]

level wont matter cuz er levels up your valks to 80 and unlocks all skills anyways

[barren badge]

there s dkeys there? Wow such a nice thing for f2p players

[barren badge]

Meant level as in ER level but it s a nice thing to point out

[sweet flax]

ye, 4 non-craftable ones + sakura and judah (and I think 7t is coming to it soon so 5 dkeys )

utu toe abyss flower and fhd

[trail obsidian]

anyways i use the Ult spam method of playing herrsher of human

spam hold attack gain 25+ sp and then do ultimiate over and oevr

kevin sigs and weapon sigs

[barren badge]

Here s a better strategy my friend

Awakening + bloom + journey if you feel like melting bosses faster

Journey is optional but so nice

[sweet flax]

that's the ult playstyle he is talking about btw

[barren badge]

For regular signets i d go. Kalpas 1, kevin 2 maybe fu hua 2

[barren badge]

Ah me stoopid me can t read

Imagine how happy he ll be if he gets benediction

[trail obsidian]

i Mostly pick vill v sigs and kevin sigs

[sweet flax]

also i'd sub out kalpas for vv and just ignore kevin stigs since you are going out of ult asap
griseo and pardo stigs have better buffs

[barren badge]

I forogt he s not clearing stages in 6 seconds

[sweet flax]

can pick kevin stigs from pardo shop, but eden start sp and maybe sakura signets for the damage boost from enhanced eva in ult form could be pretty useful too

[barren badge]

i ll leave the advice to you kind miss i am in no way qualified to properly help new players

But i can always flex my scores and Timers

[trail obsidian]

i stay in ult as that is where all the damage is

my average loop

hold attack gain sp

before going into ulimiate spam my weapon skill for extra damage

then use ulimiate use the fast attatck to build then weapon skill untill the timer runs out and ult ends

then repeat again

[sweet flax]

feel free to do that in another channel, we dont want beginners thinking they are doing terribly because someone with more experience is clearing stuff in 1/10th of the time
but do stick around more, its always nice to have other people available in the help channels, assuming they arent giving the wrong advice or trolling beginners

[trail obsidian]

any suggestions on how to improve this loop

[sweet flax]

makes sense, keep in mind with eden starting sp you can just weapon for vv stigs, enter ult, enhanced evade to group enemies and apply sakura stigs if you have any, enhanced weapon skill, ult again to exit it

[barren badge]

Dw the flexing part is a joke. I know how it feels to be a noob and see someone do 1m damage while you do 100k

[sweet flax]

honestly I could probs outscore you on my alt

but I dont have lite unlocked for finality so im not gonna bother

just to flex ofc

[sweet flax]

as long as you are clearing on time the loop itself doesnt matter unless you are trying to be more efficient with your runs

but I did mention what I would do right above that message

[barren badge]

i ll beat your score. But we all know. In the grand scheme of things. Pot beats us both

[trail obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iizt35wvskU

this right here is my clearing time with kalpus

i feel like a visual is a bettter explination

[sweet flax]

ye as I mentioned, since you have your ult ready from the beginning just wa and enter ult

if you wanna do slightly more damage, start by evading, hold atk, it will apply 3 stacks of your seed, weapon skill for enhanced weapon attack, enter ult during the weapon attack (the weapon attack will still connect), weapon attack, fill the bar until you can hold attack, weapon attack, end ult early

[trail obsidian]

how much more damage does her new weapon do in the same play style

[sweet flax]

her playstyle changes a bit with the dkey

[trail obsidian]

i was thinking of getting it

[sweet flax]

with the dkey we play the full stellar outburst but start with the ult

which is why the eden starting sp signet saves a lot of time

[trail obsidian]

anyways i want to try to get that 2 minute clear time

anyways where is my starting

[storm lantern]

u can but we dont know when it's coming back and it's not very good meta-wise

[sweet flax]

iirc most p1 melee units can clear pretty quickly by taking advantage of the fu hua soldiers variable arms

[storm lantern]

definitely worse decisions u could make

[sweet flax]

also no reason to take thelema here since you dont have her astral ring

take reverist calico instead

[trail obsidian]

ohh so pardo swap

[sweet flax]

ye

[trail obsidian]

these 2 good picks

[sweet flax]

if you are playing for the ult then yes always pick these 2

[barren badge]

Can Pick journey too. Speeds things up by a lot

[sweet flax]

well you wouldnt go journey for the starting hand

awakening makes it so dodging in your origin form refreshes your herrscher charge

and bloom helps with the sp

• that independent total damage vulnerability is pretty nice as well

journey is purely a damage boost which can be obtained via other signets as well

for reference you get more of a total damage boost from blood rose's support skill than you do from first journey+

[sweet flax]

also I just noticed here, no you do not need to get the core signet, you just need to get a signet of a flamechaser, any counts

so technically speaking if you got 1 signet from each flamechaser, that is all 13 variable arms

[barren badge]

Oh? Damn no wonder variable arms are op. Just take advantage of pardo shop

[sweet flax]

I could be wrong though... cant remember, but hoyo's terrible writing doesnt help

[quick birch]

yeah you unlock the corresponding variable arm by ownign 1 signet getting the core signet often results in an upgrade though

[sweet flax]

actually ye, its just owning a unique signet (flamechaser wise)

which makes variables arms much stronger in lite where you are more likely to have at least 3 variable arm buffs compared to normal runs

[vague lily]

Roughly how much should you save up for before pulling for a character?

[sweet flax]

30k before the patch to have good odds of garunteeing

just so you dont miss as much shill as well, otherwise just above 25k is generally enough but you will miss the full shill

assuming ofc you are active throughout the patch and getting every crystal you can

and this does not include any already existing pity

[vague lily]

Oh alright.

I presume I hold off on aiming for a character if I dont have anywhere near there

13000 roughly 😔

[sweet flax]

no pity?

[storm lantern]

if you are new you don't have to worry about shill, just make sure you can get them before the banner ends

[vague lily]

None sadly

[sweet flax]

then ye, save for 8.5 preferably

[vague lily]

Worst part is im not 😭

[trail obsidian]

i pulled it off

[sweet flax]

do the discounted though since you have a lot of crystals for the wepaon in the case you get an early

[vague lily]

Oh alright.

[storm lantern]

nothing wrong with not being new lol

[vague lily]

Yeah I was told to always do discounted pulls since it's always good.

[sweet flax]

generally speaking you wanna be careful with discounted when you have a lot of existing pity and low crystals

[trail obsidian]

should i keep investting into my old valks

[sweet flax]

otherwise its always good to do

[sweet flax]

if you want to unlock the pwo shop then ye

valks that start at a rank will unlock a shop for regular witch orbs

[storm lantern]

pwo shop has hohe and hoo stamps

[trail obsidian]

so i would get gold orbs if i buy more of these

[sweet flax]

yep

[trail obsidian]

continue anyways

[sweet flax]

keep in mind that you would need to be buying their shards for a long time (speaking months) to get enough pwo to unlock anything

[trail obsidian]

dont care progress is progrss

[storm lantern]

keep in mind you can also buy locks

[trail obsidian]

anyways how long till the new banner appears

[sweet flax]

#mt-countdown to check when patch drops, then at 12pm server time (--or 2pm I'll double check--) the banners will update

12 pm

[trail obsidian]

cool

[thick bolt]

do note maintenance duration

[sweet flax]

^ it should be 6 hours

[wet root]

how long to wait for new battlesuit banner after the latest? like new battlesuit fdd is today, when should I expect for the next?

[sweet flax]

the patch will be 9 weeks long, we will get a new debut valk in 9 weeks

until then hoyo will infamously try to bait you with reruns

[wet root]

thanks

[wraith brook]

Do i need clear this to get rewards?

[sweet flax]

there are some rewards behind clearing to specific points yes

check the event missions tab

[wraith brook]

oh

ok thanks

[faint wasp]

How do i beat this shibal without an sd valk as a beginner

[shell basin]

What battlesuits do you have

[faint wasp]

should i just take the L

[shell basin]

Do you have paws

[sweet flax]

mind answering this

[faint wasp]

i do not

Ok wait now before u guys say i spread my mats,,, i think i did

[sweet flax]

does your coralie have her weapon

[faint wasp]

full gear

[sweet flax]

try brute forcing with vbm ta rc then

[shell basin]

Then you can try brute forcing with her. Terminal aide and then Reverist calico

Maybe give one of them Theresa gluttony if you’ve crafted that

[faint wasp]

I tried and it didnt seem to work

[sweet flax]

[faint wasp]

TA is on the TB blonde girl thing and atila M? and then rc is on Glutt T Fu hua MB

i guess ill just take the L

[sweet flax]

should put marco polo on tm not tb, atila m sucks, use atila b

[faint wasp]

mb guys i forgot the names of these but ye

[faint wasp]

oh ive been doing it weong then 🧍

OH NO

[sweet flax]

marco polo b provides no buffs

[faint wasp]

that was a mistak on my part i had marco polo TM and then atila on B

[sweet flax]

oh

ye might as well sit this one out then

[faint wasp]

i guess i have to thanks guys im going back to agony

i think fdd will change everything fr

[sweet flax]

redlotus with no s ranks is still a good achievement, next patch you will be able to retain it for sure

[faint wasp]

Do i have any teams i can give her wth my valks?

[sweet flax]

yes, vbm will be one of her BiS

you can use vbs for the last slot

[faint wasp]

who's the second?

[sweet flax]

valkyrie boltstorm, a rank helia (obtainable in asterite shop)
there is a glossary in pins that have all abbreviations listed

[faint wasp]

Ohhh mb i got them mixed up

should I S helia if i get the chance?

[sweet flax]

rolling on a rerun isnt really recommended, how many crystals do you even have right now

[faint wasp]

22k

[sweet flax]

definitely dont backpull her then

[faint wasp]

Oh thats not what i meant

[shell basin]

Wait do you mean getting S rank helia (Paws) or getting A rank helia (Boltstorm) fragments so she’s S rank

[faint wasp]

the latter

[sweet flax]

ahhhh

[shell basin]

If the latter then sure, her buffs get a bit stronger then, but not if it comes at the cost of improving Blastmetal

Since you’re mostly using her for 3pc astral ring effect

[faint wasp]

oki okii ill take note of that

[sweet flax]

getting vbs to s is good regardless for multiple reasons (another factor being dorm) but as mentioned leaving her at S is preferred to get blastmetal to SSS

[faint wasp]

should i use glutt t fu hua mb on her if i got nothing?

or do i use the darwin set

[shell basin]

Yeah that’s a pretty solid cope

Don’t use Darwin

[faint wasp]

ok okk

[winged veldt]

I heard sensei starts on lv80, but after graduate at lv70, my cadet system changed to sensei system. Also have seek cadet too. I haven't try to invite. Can I become a sensei?

[shell basin]

You can if you can find someone to agree

[sweet flax]

check the channel relating to your server

people tend to post there when looking for cadets

another option is to send cadet requests to people ingame

[shell basin]

That’s how I got my current cadet but you get a lot of rejections for every hit

[trim matrix]

Currently lv 69 only vita 4/4 what should i be saving/pulling and in what patch?

[sweet flax]

how many crystals do you have

[trim matrix]

Erm basically nothing

[sweet flax]

then dont pull

also its better to ask before pulling such as with vita as she isnt that good of a pull at the moment

[trim matrix]

Im a returning player, i pulled when she came out, i recall her being pretty highly recommended for being a universal support

[sweet flax]

ahh ok, ye in 7.9 she was basically a must have, but she cannot support the newer rings so isnt as much of a high priority anymore

[shell basin]

If you had crystals FDD would be a great pull because vita is one of her BIS supports but as is you’ll probably just have to wait until 8.5

Do the discounted pull tho obv

[trim matrix]

Alr ty

[sweet flax]

^

sorry for the ping

[shell basin]

Nw

[vital spade]

Any of the characters worth investing for the early or even mid game? Also which one out of the 3 character should I choose?

[sweet flax]

out of the 3, kira is the best choice

[shell basin]

And of the characters you already have reverist calico is the best but you’ll want to get Valkyrie Blastmetal from part 2 story as your primary free focus

[trim matrix]

I actually have 10k rn, and since my acc is 24 days old i think i should still have enough one time sources for two characters, what should be my pull priority?

[shell basin]

Fate Defying Dragon

Her banner will go up in like 8 hours

If you have a lot of crystals

But make sure to save 17k or so so you don’t end up stuck with FDD but no weapon

[trim matrix]

3am…alr tyy

[shell basin]

Keep that much stockpiled and then roll the excess

Well there’s no rush to get it at launch

Just that’s when banner goes up

[upbeat egret]

Top 100 or rip

[sweet flax]

Pray for my affix rng then

[quick birch]

we're in one bracketi

[sweet flax]

Same bracket?

[quick birch]

yes

[sweet flax]

O

Well there you go then

[gloomy acorn]

guys is mt done yet

[upbeat egret]

Wtf still no sleep? Are you a cyborg or what

[sweet flax]

#mt-countdown

[upbeat egret]

👎 no

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-matikane-tannhauser-ウマ娘-マチカネタンハイゼ-gif-16755696554645466697

[gloomy acorn]

oh wait I was 1 hr too late to make the joke

forgor I changed timezones

[sweet flax]

Ggs

Do it for glb mt in 1 hour

[charred basin]

Guys should I get Senadina from battle pass before she disappears ? Is she still worth it ? Cause I really want to get Finality Kiana and her Astral Ring weapon cuz she's my fav
These are my only P2 Valks
Also people are speculating that Thelema is going to BP so idk if I should wait or not
I only have 8 pink balls rn

[ruby canyon]

Hyperion is upgrading

Until when?

[oak estuary]

#mt-countdown

[storm lantern]

leaning towards neither but she's a support for hohe and sparkle which is something

[ruby canyon]

I have to wait 3 hours and 30 minutes ;-;

Welp... Am gonna play roblox

[storm lantern]

i wouldn't get one without the other though

(meaning sena and thel)

[shell basin]

yeah. Thelema Hohe with no sena or vita is going to struggle with outdamaging brute force

[sweet flax]

No thel and unranked, meaning hohe is gonna be very weak compared to other options especially in eu which worships hohe

Sparkle hasn't gotten a weather in a long time

Also this is assuming hohe has her dkey

[delicate needle]

Maintenance over soon?

[sweet flax]

#mt-countdown

[charred basin]

She has her Astral Ring unlocked

[sweet flax]

then the point still stands, dsa has no benefit to your account, its better to focus on later units considering how strong your account is for loa and goi atm

personal preference can be a factor, but it shouldnt be the main one id argue considering how scummy bp can be with the crystallum

[west holly]

guys is hte update out'

[sweet flax]

.

[cobalt pelican]

I’m assuming lv isn’t visible (I’m ancient and I’m returning)

[sweet flax]

By visible do you mean obtainable instead

Or did you misspell viable

Either case she is obtainable through bp only atm (need to pay though)

She is not viable in today's meta

[cobalt pelican]

Yeah I guess (was viable) I mean it wa like a whole version and 4 patches ago or something 😭

I’m assuming HorB can be obtained through standard right? ( I need her XD)

[oak estuary]

Nope

[cobalt pelican]

Damn it 😭

And she isn’t rerunning I assume?

[oak estuary]

Probably not

[cobalt pelican]

Welp

[storm lantern]

maybe adv if she gets a dkey

[cobalt pelican]

I lowkey do not know what half of that sentence means

[wintry wharf]

adv is a type of banner dkey stands for divine key a new weapon that gives permanent buffs to all valks

[cobalt pelican]

I forgot half of this games system I just remember meta shifts every patch and there’s abyss which is hell in the higher ranks

[storm lantern]

wdym nirvana is great

[wintry wharf]

is hell only for ppl who pulls random things without asking here first

[storm lantern]

dont u love having to reset bc u did something at a low 980 instead of high 980

[cobalt pelican]

I was pretty lucky ( got lv with full set in like 50 pulls)

I was at red lotus b4 but idk what I’m at now 😭

[wintry wharf]

forbidden

[lyric anvil]

Yeah, likely forbidden

[ancient needle]

Sinful 1 most likely

It's very hard to demote from it

[lyric anvil]

Interesting

[jolly olive]

how many crystals should i save up before pulling for a max gear character

[shadow gyro]

around 30k is good but if you have more than what u need for the weapon then u can save enough for the weapon (dont pull yet) and use the rest on the valk

if u get the valk u go for the weapon

[dry fern]

does salting still work

[shadow gyro]

yes

[dry fern]

goodbye my morning

[shadow gyro]

[storm lantern]

good luck

[thick bolt]

Spending Event Priority/Considerations

• Click this pin to access the rest of the guide!
  Chart: image

• If you feel you have special considerations not covered, feel free to ask and elaborate.
  • Spending event should mostly just be a bonus, and not an end goal. While sometimes we may entertain the idea of building pity at a low amount to reach a close milestone, it still carries risks. If you're greatly off from some spending milestone you want, I encourage you to forget about it and to keep crystals for more important new releases in the future instead. Otherwise maybe you can discuss with us about your dilemma~
• If you're unsure then you can still wait, possibly for next patch news. However, don't end up forgetting and letting the currency for the spending event shop expire!
• Make sure you're absolutely done with all rolls for the first 6 weeks of this patch before spending your tokens.
• Starting Oct 27 we are getting 2 10 pulls on the carnival rotation supply over the course of the entire banner rotation. These 20 pulls DO contribute to spending event goals therefore do consider the extra tokens from here before you start spending them in the shop.
  • 20 dorm cards are eligible for spending event rewards. Keep leftovers for future spending events.
  • DO NOT spend crystals on the dorm banner!

In Order of Decreasing Priority

• Disclaimer! Rank-up Stamps CAN NOT be used to unlock Battlesuits, they are explicitly for ranking up the unit.
• TLDR Thelema Stamps/Thelema Card > ELF Box > Senadina Stamps > Remaining Items

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Thelema Stamps - 170 Each

S2 is a notable milestone for Thelema providing her with instant full KE stacks after casting ultimate, speeding up her rotation for more damage/less time consumption in battle.

SS is less so notable with it's off field team buff and the added Rime Trauma which was a niche use for Kalpas in the past. https://youtu.be/xqgh7WMEIRs?t=80
In Memorial Arena it has seen use against SSS Hephaestus.
Meanwhile SSS Huoduo does not need the extra Rime Trauma, even S0 Thelema is enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJAMvsAB9E&start=129
The rime overall is niche and minor so do not place more importance than it is that you feel forced to aim for this rank.

• If you're buying Knight or Paladin BP this patch you can consider this selection on whether it helps you reach a rank milestone.
• For milestones beyond SS you can have a look at her Rank up Overview on the wiki and make your judgement from there if it's worth it for you.

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Thelema Character Card - 800

This is (technically) a free unit for your roster and at the minimum is a bonus 620 crystals from Elysian Realm.
While she is heavily weapon reliant - due to the timestop, bonus astral ring intensity regen on evades and just the personal damage it provides - the fact that she is currently in BP means that if you are buying or considering buying BP you can quite easily purchase her weapon to get a fully functional Battlesuit (since the Stigmata are farmable from foundry).

• A Thelema equipped with her weapon also allows easy access to max score (31946) in most SS MA bosses due to the timestop is provides.
• Her recent notable use cases in Abyss were as a support for HoHe (w/ Stellar Key Flawless Benediction) against Hellmaru (though it is contested by HLE at this point).

She is quite a popular Unit so your personal bias/liking is a valid reason to consider buying her.
We're all playing for pretty png's anyway

ELF Box - 8 for 2 fragments

The importance of this is debatable in relation to the card and rankup stamps but it is arguably the most meta-gameplay relevant pick if you're not buying BP or don't own other astralOps apart from Dreamseeker.

Slowly working your way towards getting Kiana ELF to 4* as a long term goal is quite a nice option since this reward is consistent across spending events.
Dumping tokens here if the other stuff doesn't interest you or is not something you need is also valid.

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Senadina Stamps - 170 Each

Main selling point in a nutshell would be the extra attack from ranks for Guaymas.
5 stamps are also currently available from the supply shop if that affects if/how many you purchase.

• S2 used to be a notable rank on release since it allowed her to spread damage among SD enemies for the SD mobs stage, but it hasn't rerun for a long while.
• For SS, I honestly don't recall a use case for the extra evasion skill nor the 1s extra duration on her enhanced state. There is just a niche case of it helping you possibly rotate quickly in certain scenarios.
• SS1 is a minor increase in damage and elemental breach.

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For the remaining Enhancement Materials and other items you can refer to just this section of Professor Sairaan's message here #👶beginner-help message

-# Full credit to Sairaan for doing most of the stuff, I'm just a post writing machine

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and done, thank you

[frozen crypt]

[frozen crypt]

Is the image in the pin broken for u or is it my bad connection

[spiral badge]

looks fine on my end

[frozen crypt]

My shit connection then

[shadow gyro]

yay new guide

maybe my connection is bad so the img is blurry but would getting the pic from https://www.hoyolab.com/accountCenter/postList?id=1017930 be higher in quality?

[elfin turtle]

I want Lantern outfit rahhh

[shadow gyro]

if the link isnt working well u can scroll a bit down

[lime plinth]

is the new valk must pull or not? i dont have any astralop valk (returnee only have old valk)

[shadow gyro]

aops arent needed

valk is pretty good, if ur very low on pulls u can skip tho

[lime plinth]

my current pity is 21

[shadow gyro]

valk supply? hows ur crystal economy?

[lime plinth]

currently 7k crystals i think i have 7 equipment card

[shadow gyro]

no pity on wp supply yeah?

[lime plinth]

my last cleared story is ch 32

[shadow gyro]

i think u should skip

will take a while for u to get her

[frozen crypt]

I'd save up enough to guarantee wep and probably wait for 8.5 info before spending any excess on valk supply

[lime plinth]

i see thank you

[frozen crypt]

Did you pull PAWS?

[lime plinth]

paws?

[frozen crypt]

New helia

It doesn't change the answer much I'm just curious

[lime plinth]

no

i just return 3 days ago

[frozen crypt]

I see

[fallen shale]

worth?

[ruby canyon]

OH MY GOD

[fallen shale]

also is the spending event already here? Should I wait for it to start before pulling on FDD?

[thick bolt]

should be there on patch drop already, you can check inside the events page to double confirm

[fallen shale]

I can't find it

[lone crater]

screenshot

[fallen shale]

oh wait I think I found it

[lone crater]

is in the other shop should be

[fallen shale]

is it this?

in the "have-all market"?

[vast creek]

is the new astral OP recommended to pull?

[abstract sequoia]

depends on your goals

[vast creek]

my goals?

[dry python]

guides out except for ER

[abstract sequoia]

like, you dont need aop to perform well at all

only nirvana is where things will be difficult without one

[vast creek]

hoo

I have PAWS only, just started last patch

so just FDD are okay for me?

[abstract sequoia]

yea

dreamseeker is enough for everything

and i can testify for that statement, i made it up to nirvana with just them

[fallen shale]

what's the min xtals I should keep for weps again

[abstract sequoia]

your weapon pulls till guarantee * 280

[chrome star]

I thought there is 5 free battlesuit cards?

[shadow gyro]

there is

[chrome star]

I didnt get any

[warped geyser]

pretty sure it's a login event

[abstract sequoia]

the event starts on saturday for that

dont ask me why

[chrome star]

Get on sat? Well thats obsurd

[lyric anvil]

Battlesuit cards 2 days after getting the battlesuit

[fallen shale]

they're for 8.5 obv

[chrome star]

I wont have enough extals

[lyric anvil]

[chrome star]

May the gods bless me

[inner bronze]

best affix for new coralie?

[shadow gyro]

hammer atk, mech atk

[slim blaze]

Ih

New version out?

Its time.. .

[frozen crypt]

Yur

I need to reduce my budget even more I have way too many xtals

[signal kettle]

humblebrag

[frozen crypt]

I only bought bchips last patch, didn't even use them, still 50k

New patch length is crazy

[inner bronze]

thanks

[lyric anvil]

You'll have enough for 8.5

[frozen crypt]

I'll have 100k in 8.5 at this rate

[warped geyser]

i regret not getting paws

[signal kettle]

I regret getting hosed on all the dkey banners for HFi

[warped geyser]

😞😞

[fallen shale]

for MA is there a P1 cope unit I can use as the third member in FDD > VBM

[undone leaf]

is the dkey box in the have-all market a must grind?

[shadow gyro]

if you mean reserve shop then yes
because it gives you permanent atk which is good for ur dmg
it does take a while to collect tho

otherwise whats in the shop is rather niche so dkeys have a better priority

[inner bronze]

what other roles do new coralie fill other than fire dps?

[shadow gyro]

GoI support
RoO support (only option is vita dps rn)
LoA support

other stuff:
Ignite dps
has a skill about trauma application
breach

[next spade]

can i use the new coralie without vita or the new sushang? i have badum and the new helia for p2 units, also have elysia

[thick bolt]

Can pair her up with new helia and A rank cora assuming dps role, for support she works with any of the LoA valkyries and Helia mainly, can be cope support otherwise being RoO

also she doesn't need new sushang for dps, new Helia or any Rite of Oblivion valkyrie works (Vita, Coralie, HoFi with dkey)

[inner bronze]

is she best in any of those tho?

[shadow gyro]

yes she's a very good support

[next spade]

maybe i shouldnt pull for her then i guess

[hearty sequoia]

is the game still updating?

[ancient needle]

Yes, #mt-countdown

They don't open it early

[fallen shale]

for MA is it more important to keep FDD and PAWS together or PS and PAWS

[shadow gyro]

no badum right?

[fallen shale]

nope

just PS, PAWS and FDD

[next spade]

the game still on maint 😭

[fallen shale]

I'm testing either
FDD > VBM > CN and PS > PAWS > TA
or
FDD > PAWS > CN and PS > VBM > TA

or RC instead of TA if it turns out I'll need her for the SS boss

[ancient needle]

Apparently VBs can be good for FDD (she has a skill that relies on all valks having AR)

[fallen shale]

oh so I could run VBS instead of CN?

[ancient needle]

Ye

[fallen shale]

should I do that with VBM or with PAWS?

[lyric anvil]

Wait, you have PAWS?

[thick bolt]

VBM
PAWS with PS may be better in overall total score, though do try on training mode jic

[fallen shale]

so then that'd be
FDD > VBM > VBS
PS > PAWS > RC/TA/CI/SI
then whoever is left for SS idk I haven't checked lol

[prisma fiber]

About D.Coralie
-What affix does she uses
-What's her bis teammate
-I only have 550 xtal left,30 pulls till weapon and finished every one time available.Can I use normal cora's weapon in the meantime? (Already have stigs)

[fallen shale]

for SS I suppose I can go back to aggressively no dkey hohe cope lol

[gloomy acorn]

Fire or atk affix for fdd

[lyric anvil]

Ignore me
I got confused for a moment

[lyric anvil]

Mecha attack and Hammer attack

[thick bolt]

• affix as above
• may vary per abyss but as dps she wants Vita, HoFi, A rank Coralie and PAWS.
• can use normal cora weapon as stat stick though it'd work only upto RL at max in the meantime

[lyric anvil]

Valks need their signature

[fallen shale]

is that gun mode the only way of applying VBS' buff? it seems like it takes up so much time

[upbeat heron]

what's like the best ICE dmg team?

[shadow gyro]

there's only two teams that's relevant for that (don't backpull btw)
hohe (dkey), mps, dsa/lp
mps, dsa, lp (very rare now)
although the only ice weather that shows up should just be hellmaru?
glossary in pins

[lyric anvil]

I was gonna say weird Thelema uses both Breach for WoD

[shadow gyro]

i don't even know if thele uses lamp but like that's the only other option that's worth mentioning, im sure she doesn't care about lamp past their release time

[oak cipher]

[uncut mantle]

Is there any data on how much xtals you can get from newbie event?
Also for divine key selector should prioritize xuanyuan sword right?

[shadow gyro]

for the first part check the crystals resources pin
for the second, yes, reason is in the first pin
of this channel btw

[upbeat heron]

[upbeat heron]

thank you so much! by that do you mean that ice damage isn't that relevant?

[shadow gyro]

more so the enemies are focused more on other mechanisms over forcing you to have ice or ice dmg

[upbeat heron]

[shadow gyro]

also the low amount of current ice valks does contribute to it

if we get more ice valks with bosses that really need it then it will be relevant again

[uncut mantle]

I genuinely cant find the crystal resources pin

[upbeat heron]

what could you recommend for a new player then?

[shadow gyro]

this one!

[uncut mantle]

Thenksss

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message this one (link to a guide)
ignore hohe if you don't have her already

pardo is a good beginner ice valk if you ever need ice for anything and she's a good beginner support as well

and you can get her from the asterite shop
even though i think beginners can also get her from the beginner book? idk tho

[uncut mantle]

Btw i plan to pull for s rank coralie, then pull for for divine key hofi then just use a rank coralie
Which basically mean max need 210 pulls to complete the team

Should be a good plan?

[oak estuary]

Nah just skip hofi dkey

[shadow gyro]

hofi probs no unless you have a ton of pulls and somehow alr have hofi and a team for new
new cora + wp is good tho

[oak estuary]

And save the pulls for 8.5

[upbeat heron]

sweet, thank you! I already leveled her up so that's good to hear

[upbeat heron]

My beginner's book is far from gone, I'm a returnee that stayed as a beginner

I think I got a seele from it

[shadow gyro]

oh i see

tbh returnee rewards are far worse than newbie rewards, this is optional but if you don't mind making an alt then you'll have a better start

unless you're very attached to your old account

[uncut mantle]

i plan to use bp orbs to get hofi

[shadow gyro]

do you pay for bp?

[upbeat heron]

I see, that would actually just be smarter cause I'm not even that far into the story yet (and already forgot a lot of stuff)

[uncut mantle]

Kinda got lucky and get free bp pass but saved it up, planning to use for 8.5

[upbeat heron]

thank you, I guess I'm just going to reroll

[fallen shale]

I got a lot of excess prism stigmatas when pulling for FDD, should I turn them into source prisms?

[upbeat heron]

[shadow gyro]

alright have fun!!

[uncut mantle]

I legit need a RoO team

[shadow gyro]

i wouldn't recommend it even if you wanna do it to have a team for new cora, it will take forever and future valks will have more use for you

[shadow gyro]

yes

they don't have any other use

[shadow gyro]

at least you have a rank cora for a slot

[uncut mantle]

Problem is what to use for s tank coralie team?

[shadow gyro]

can you show me what you have?

[fallen shale]

also I'm assuming I should purchase the divine key box from the spending event?

[shadow gyro]

yes if you can afford it
don't pull more if you alr got 4/4 cora

there's a guide in the first pin btw

[fallen shale]

alright

[deep island]

is chenxue a astral op?

[shadow gyro]

yes

[uncut mantle]

That works w s rank coralie, i only have a rank coralie

[shadow gyro]

the current one on the banner is

[shadow gyro]

that's okay, are you still new? you can use cope options like RC for now and it will do

[uncut mantle]

More of a returnee, kinda heard about the 8.5 valk

[shadow gyro]

even though nothing is confirmed there's still a chance for a new roo valk so if that happens then at least you'll have a full roo team by then

[shadow gyro]

i see, just to let you know nothing about 8.5 is confirmed, thus far its assumptions, you can keep saving for now until #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion gets news!

[fallen shale]

is it ok to buy source prisms from the supply shop or is that currency better spent on other things

[storm lantern]

better spent on other things

[tulip sedge]

Hm, if team consist from FDD and PAWS who support and who dd?

[storm lantern]

source prism income is not bad enough for that to be justified

[shadow gyro]

based on the leader (far left slot)

if fdd then she's the dps and paws support her
if paws then its her dps and fdd is the support

[lyric anvil]

Believe you buy the NCC in the supply shop?
If I'm remembering correctly-

[tulip sedge]

Hm, but how PAWS can support? I kinda doesn't seen any buffs from her.

[storm lantern]

save for 23x2 or probably better just save until they add stamps for someone useful

[oak estuary]

Just qte and leave, her buffs from stigs and paws has a special passive if cora is in her team

[shadow gyro]

she has a newly unlocked skill made for fdd

[tulip sedge]

Ooh

[winged veldt]

is lantern still obtainable later? or lantern outfit pretty much useless for whoever likes it, if they skipped past lantern

[oak estuary]

Eventually shes gonna be avalaible in bp(paid) then come to reserve(takes a long time to farm) then to dorm(gacha) then farmable through war treasury

[fathom phoenix]

are both main quest?

[tulip sedge]

First is 8ex if i correct

[rugged compass]

Doesnt the weapon synergy card expire?

[thick bolt]

oh shit

[rugged compass]

Np

Lol

[thick bolt]

Thanks man

[tulip sedge]

How much crystals i must spend for 700 currency?

[next spade]

i guess i should pull for vita now?

[thick bolt]

check pins

count the dorm pull tokens as well before you get scammed

[deep island]

should i only get mb for fu hua?

[tulip sedge]

I had 56 of them. Well i wanted to take SoE and fully build my HoR, but i think it will wait until inlt appear in RW

[thick bolt]

No, rather save for future unit.
FDD PAWS VBm work if we're talking FDD dps

[ancient needle]

Yeah, T is pretty useless
You still can get it for collection point purposes, you get more than enough currency for mats and stuff

[deep island]

ah okay ic

[vagrant token]

i know AOp are far from a requirement, but i like pulling them, is Chenxue made for teams like Vita/Helia/Hofidlc, can i have her 'worth' even without new coralie

[ancient needle]

Yeah, she provides value there too, but she shines at SS in RoO (Vita and HoFi)

[next spade]

Wait what? can u gimme those names in human terms please?

[thick bolt]

new cora, new helia, old cora

also glossary is in the pins

[ancient needle]

Though it does look like your Manual is running out
If you're short on some mats, I'd stock up for the last time instead

[tawdry basin]

okay idk if this is beginner-y but i just saved 10 immutable crystallum, I have FoV and think the flower weapon is good but is there anything better for her? - im ftp ;-; (yes ik her weapons in bp shop rn its killing me)

[cobalt pelican]

Is there a. Tireless for characters? (I’m very outdated)

[cobalt pelican]

Tierlist

[last lion]

uh there's supposed to be a spending event right?

[celest shard]

No point, the game changes too much.

[glossy hemlock]

should i get xys or toe from dkey

[verbal kraken]

Single pulls ?

[cobalt pelican]

Meta still switches every patch?

[celest shard]

And because of weather what is S tier one abyss, may be F in the next.

[celest shard]

Yes, but not as wild a falloff on power creep as the game used to have.

[storm lantern]

it changes twice a week

[cobalt pelican]

That’s not that bad I guess 😭

Is HoRb still viable (I doubt it)

[celest shard]

It’s still at the point you’d want to VERY carefully consider if you want to back pull a P2, not advisable still.

[cobalt pelican]

Still the same then 😭

[celest shard]

Kind of? A lot of the end P1 teams still pop up on occasion

Actually had brick weather a month or 2 ago

[cobalt pelican]

I’m surprised she lasted that long (Tbf she was one of the best supports atp)

I more forgot how to play Lv (I just know there was a bar to fill and that let me do a lot of smg)

[celest shard]

Bar? Qte in hold button, mash

Gg

[cobalt pelican]

She was so briandead but good 😭

[celest shard]

She still is

She’s had quite a few weathers the last few months

[cobalt pelican]

New endgame or nah?

[cobalt pelican]

Bit unfamiliar with this term but I just assume it’s buffs/nerfs?

[tawdry basin]

is oblivion down worth for FoV?

[celest shard]

Weather is the overall effect in abyss, like bonus lightning and reduced fire or something similar

[cobalt pelican]

OH THAT THING

[celest shard]

Also FDD really took me to max pity… game you’re a douche

[cobalt pelican]

New character?

[celest shard]

Yeah

[cobalt pelican]

Also is senadina still good? (I haven’t even tried building her XD) (gave her bare basics)

[celest shard]

She is but Vita tends to cover her spot better

[cobalt pelican]

I’m so behind on everything, think I can hit red lotus at least tho?

[celest shard]

If you have her and 4/4, wouldn’t hurt to build unless you’re low on mats

[storm lantern]

she basically never has dps weathers, she's a bit better than s0 vita for ele wod

competing in her weathers is also harder since she was in bp so baseline is ranked

[cobalt pelican]

Ahhh yeah what the hell is ele wod

[storm lantern]

wod with an elemental dps

[abstract sequoia]

wheel of destiny ring

[cobalt pelican]

Oh

[verbal kraken]

Really loved getting 3 of the same stig

[abstract sequoia]

1 prism each per salvage

• stig box and you got your 3pc

can forge one stig for 2 prisms and 600 ether fuel

[sweet flax]

Ram do you remember how many crytallum you get upon buying bp

[chrome star]

Is the new astral op good?

Like i mean is it worth it for future

[sweet flax]

For the new ring ye, but only needed in nirv, and nirv will demand the aop with ss

No aops don't have future value as they are limited to their specific ring, they lose value once a new ring is introduced

[uncut agate]

Is it wortj getting hoot meis weapon and stig from bp

[sweet flax]

Her weapon, 7 thunders, is a dkey so theres no downside to getting it if you don't have it

Her stigmata set, handel, is craftable

[shadow gyro]

not rlly unless u dont need anything else bc it will take a while to get

[sweet flax]

Actually wait 7t is in bp now?

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[sweet flax]

Big

[shadow gyro]

sorry i forgot 😭

[uncut agate]

Wait is 7t hoot bis now

[sweet flax]

It always has been

[chrome star]

So basically dont get it unless you wanna beat everyone’s ass

[uncut agate]

Because i already have it

[sweet flax]

But hot is never used

[shadow gyro]

u need it for the atk anyways

[uncut agate]

Ws thinking of key on limpidity but im guessing its her old set

[sweet flax]

Dont get it unless you have the valks to play in nirv, are in nirv and enough crystals to not sabotage your chances of future valks

Basically, unrealistic for a f2p

[shadow gyro]

isnt that hoo wp tho

[uncut agate]

Yeah thunder and origin mei

[ancient needle]

5 Vanguard, 18 Knight and 24 Pala

[sweet flax]

Hot old weapon was key of castigation, which is shit
She got a dkey dlc, that dkey being 7 thunders

Hoo weapon is key of limpidity

[wispy aurora]

Just got the character and wep + stigma is 60 across both banners and am trying to get the DKey box from event how many crystals do I need to spend to get it?

[sweet flax]

That's the full bp ma brother, I meant upon buying it

[ancient needle]

Ah

[uncut agate]

Yeah hoo mei needs limpidity then

[sweet flax]

Assuming you did 20 dorm pulls
25.2k
No 20 dorm pulls, 28k

[uncut agate]

But i think im gonna wait and see if they add hotr to the bp

[sweet flax]

If they do it will be a while

There's no specific order so its hoyos decision

[wispy aurora]

Not done dorms and should I go for AOP as I have character done? Or s2 worth?

[uncut agate]

Both finality and hoo are in bp so maybe

[sweet flax]

Uhhhhh great question

[sweet flax]

And they released after hotr

Again theres no pattern

Expecting a pattern in a hoyo game will lead you down an endless tunnel of despair

[ancient needle]

3 week patch next

[sweet flax]

Hoyo milking cn whales that way

I wanna pull but I'm not home someone give me dopamine

[wispy aurora]

I dunno if it be worth

[storm lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FVt3Wov0wc it's not

[lyric anvil]

Luck wanted to be on my side though

[wispy aurora]

Easy decision then seems like it's time to pull AOP

[odd pecan]

i need it ;-;
But i think there's p2p thing

[last lion]

remind me what is Reserve Works that's mentioned in the DK pin?

[odd pecan]

in BP shop there's shop of old valks

[ancient needle]

It's a permanent BP shop that allows you to buy older stuff

[last lion]

oh that. Is it worth getting one of the DKs from it?

[tulip sedge]

It is not.

[ancient needle]

Yes, that's the main use for the shop

[odd pecan]

i must pull all of it?

[ancient needle]

You need to spend 28k crystals

• Dorm tix iirc

[tulip sedge]

20 pulls from dorm and 25.6 crystals

[odd pecan]

damn, i have only 18 ;-;

[ancient needle]

!faq spendguide

[small willow]

Spending Event Guide

Not sure what to get, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see Professor Starfall's guide on what to choose in the current spending event!
-# Also see [!faq spending](#👶beginner-help message) if you are not familiar with spending events.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[odd pecan]

on the one side i need it and on other side i don't have crystals for that

[ancient needle]

If you're too broke you have to skip

[tulip sedge]

You have 46 days to farm 10k, or skip

[odd pecan]

actually ye,i have that thought

[last lion]

from Reserve Works, not the spending box, I'm literally missing only one key (Twins of Eden).

[ancient needle]

Go ahead

[odd pecan]

new coralie is must pull valk?

[ancient needle]

Oh, ye, you're right

Thx

[last lion]

High priority, she's support for recent and likely new characters

[odd pecan]

i have a feeling that i'm gonna skip cuz i have only 18k

[ancient needle]

Yeah, you're forced to pretty much

You can do the discounted 10x ig

[ancient needle]

Unless your pity is low

[craggy oyster]

Should I skip dragon? I have 17115 and I have 75 pity on char banner and 60 pity on weap.

[last lion]

We've got a month

[tulip sedge]

You have time to farm more. If you really want it.

[ancient needle]

Depends on your one-time crystal sources

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[ancient needle]

How many do you have?

If not much, you probs should skip

Depends on whether 8.5 is good

(it most likely is cuz anni)

[craggy oyster]

I havent finished all the part 1 chapters. I'm still at Chapter 13 and I still have a lot of them

[ancient needle]

Not bad

Can probs afford both then

Gotta get on the grind tho

I assume you have a lot of stuff in ER too then

[sweet flax]

Play it safe only pull the excess crystals over 16.8k on valk banner just to be sure you can secure valk + wep

[craggy oyster]

yeah I still have valks that are not unlocked.

[sweet juniper]

Heyyyyoooo I got a bunch of like the part 2 valid and I’m a returning player (like lvl 85) and I’m trying to level em but I’m like broke on coins ect any advice?

[ancient needle]

Coins are a pretty time-gated resource generally speaking
What you can do rn is salvage your 3* weaps, that should give you a couple mils

And 3* event stigs ig if you don't care about collecting them

[twilit junco]

is it what u check or uncheck?
feel like that i unchecked stayed

everything else is gone

[shadow gyro]

the only thing u really wanna check is the dorm ticket if ur lucky to see it

[twilit junco]

swear i did that and nothing happened

[thick bolt]

stuff in there increases throughout the day as armada members logon and do commissions
if armada is dead then materials will stay ded

[twilit junco]

got garbo

[thick bolt]

The check mark just increases that chance to get the thing rather then leaving it unchecked though in the end other members also do it so it's upto rng if you get it from the selection

you wanna do it for useful stuff like the dorm card and phase shifters/exp mats depending on your needs

[sweet flax]

#📿gacha-salt🧂

[twilit junco]

my first 10

[sweet flax]

Just to avoid everyone posting their pulls and flooding the chat

[neat hornet]

what's the affixes for coralie? still atk?

[shadow gyro]

quick question, should i consider using my 2 affix boxes on fdd? i have some coins to get ncc but no locks
i can get few locks from pure which orb shop but i wanna wait and see if i need a stamp from there (thinking about my s2 hohe)

[shadow gyro]

mech atk, hammer atk

[sweet flax]

Mecha atk or hammer atk

[neat hornet]

okay thanks

[sweet flax]

S2 hohe in eu is cooked anyways

[shadow gyro]

[sweet flax]

Affix mat can be used but id try a couple of affix rolls in the case I get lucky

[shadow gyro]

i alr have s2, maybe i can slowly go to ss

[sweet flax]

Ss hohe in eu is cooked anyways

[shadow gyro]

😭

[sweet flax]

jokes aside I don't think hohe weathers will be as frequent

[ancient needle]

Okay, SS is enough lah

[sweet flax]

So no need to rush it

[ancient needle]

Not without Sera tho

[sweet flax]

Ss hohe with no sera in eu is cooked anyways

[shadow gyro]

hmm so roll for fdd affixes then use box or just roll?

[sweet flax]

[shadow gyro]

okay i get it

next is sss hohe with sss sera is cooked in eu

[sweet flax]

See how your pulls go first, imagine you use box then get a 22/21 atk roll

Obv I don't mean spend every last affix mat unless you really wanna save those affix devices

[sweet flax]

Sss hohe with sss sera in a patch that isn't 8.1 in eu is cooked

[shadow gyro]

hmm
i have been hoarding these affix boxes for a while
so idm using it if its worth long term

[sweet flax]

Alright I had enough fun imma stop bullshitting now

[shadow gyro]

lmao

[sweet flax]

Keep in mind her dps weathers wont be as plentiful

[shadow gyro]

okay i try some rolling first, see if i get smth

[shadow gyro]

oh

[sweet flax]

Id save my affix devices tbh

[sweet flax]

At least thats what I've been told since 8.3 by multiple people so I assume its the case

[shadow gyro]

oh also didnt get chen bc idk if my 8.5 pulls will be affected n i got the dkey box
i hope that wont bite me in nirv...

[sweet flax]

Well I'll either go down to rl with you or somehow retain

I just want to outscore mango for bragging rights

[shadow gyro]

hmm alr i can also wait for 8.5 news and hope the ppl in nirv dont stomp me with their preped affix rolls...

[shadow gyro]

[sweet flax]

Not gonna happen because I think he has paws and I don't

[shadow gyro]

chances lamp flux will be when ill be kicked from nirv bc no teri

even tho i alr have the team

[winged veldt]

cant find this enemy, been restart game few times

[shadow gyro]

hmm iirc theres an enemy in here that u wanna lure out and kill or it will not let other enemies spawn here

[sweet flax]

Kill the boss chariot behind the fountain first

[warped geyser]

what is the hidden achievement in dreams and illusions (p2 chapter 1)

[neat hornet]

is there any table for how much finest attendant we can get in each progression of this spending event. i am 150 short for lantern costume

[ancient needle]

Yes

!faq spendguide

[small willow]

Spending Event Guide

Not sure what to get, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see Professor Starfall's guide on what to choose in the current spending event!
-# Also see [!faq spending](#👶beginner-help message) if you are not familiar with spending events.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[neat hornet]

yayyy. thanks

oh no. i need 30 more pulls. is it worth haha. already full-geared my dragon

[odd plume]

CCPLUH04
new code

[long snow]

whos chenxue good with?

[hearty sequoia]

is there no gems in the paladin BP 💔

[ancient needle]

RoO and GoI DPSes

Really wants SS for RoO tho

[long snow]

okay, thank you!

[celest shard]

FDD wants atk affixes, right?

[abstract sequoia]

what would be cheaper, trying to roll one affix slot until the second unlocks naturally or using a flashtank and roll both immediately?

my intuition says use flashtank, not sure if I'm right

[odd plume]

wont matter much i would say

[abstract sequoia]

i mean rolling one is half the costs

and you usually roll one high anyway

[hidden cave]

Hey so I rolled and got lucky with the weapon banner but now I want the divine key box so which banner should I roll on? I'm reluctant to go for the astral op since I don't have helia's latest battlesuit

[swift drift]

Should I reroll or just play normal?

[shadow gyro]

u alr have fdd + wp right?

[shadow gyro]

if u have time rerolling gives u a better start but if u dont have time u can play normal

[hidden cave]

Yep yep

[shadow gyro]

do u mind showing me who do u have and what abyss diff ure?

[hidden cave]

These are my built valks

[shadow gyro]

youll prob save unless ur so so close to the box like 10 pulls or smth

[hidden cave]

I'm in agony 1 I think

[shadow gyro]

oh, chen wont be used then

[swift drift]

so im keep playing normal

[hidden cave]

I'm halfway lol I have so many crystals saved but was really looking forward to getting the xy sword 😅 I guess I'll wait it out and see how I feel in a couple of weeks

[shadow gyro]

yeahh def wait

theres nothing in the supplies that u need or will be that impactfull

[hidden cave]

Gotchu

[dry fern]

I have been rerolling for the past 3h gl man

[swift drift]

how do you reroll

10pull 20 pull?

[odd plume]

make new account, do first 10 pull

[storm lantern]

make new account > get 1400 xtals and 10 pull

[shadow gyro]

u do story until it lets you go to the menu then u pull

[vivid horizon]

interesting that eq cards are cheaper than in wyverein's image guide, only 80 per instead of 150
so max f2p tokens can get 1 dkey/synergy + 5 cards

[storm lantern]

u can maybe get 12 or something but dont go past that

[swift drift]

I'll try in my free time

ty

[thick bolt]

huh lemme check, I'll add in an edit if it is so

[shadow gyro]

this is irreversible is it? like can you change the password if needed?
feels like a no but i wanna check

[thick bolt]

can change password, or disable entirely

[cold niche]

Yay!

[shadow gyro]

oh sounds good, ill use it then
do u know how to change password btw

[lilac reef]

Is there FDD ER guide out yet?

[shadow gyro]

congrats but this belongs to gacha salt channel!

[shadow gyro]

the one in pins is still a wip
can check hoyolab but i would rather wait first

to give ppl time

[lilac reef]

ah alright Ill just wait then ty

[thick bolt]

if you want something urgent then here https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40484694
in indo but the signet part is in eng and you can google tl the rotation, can ignore rest

[dry python]

wtf star went all the way to arabic hoyolab

[thick bolt]

just searched er guide and this was the first (and only) option showing in results

[sweet flax]

that's not arabic

[lilac reef]

looks Indonesian?

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[thick bolt]

dunno what it is

oh

[lilac reef]

but useful nonetheless lol

[shadow gyro]

arabic is right to left haha

[sweet flax]

its indonesian according to google translate

[thick bolt]

got thrown off by the wajib

[sweet flax]

if written in arabic, but some people (me included) write arabic online with english letters so the words are recognizable if it is arabic

[shadow gyro]

hmm

[sweet flax]

anyways google translate should be helpful for the Indonesian bits

[ruby canyon]

Is it just me? Or everytime i enter Dreamseeker's room my game crashes

[sweet flax]

check with #🔌technical-help

[ruby canyon]

im on mobile

[shadow gyro]

google can still translate it well and it says indo so deff not arabic
i do know some arabic so i could tell haha

[sweet flax]

im arabic so I can tell as well

[shadow gyro]

so do we fight now? /j

[sweet flax]

nah lmfao, I wanna update my game since I got back home and pull

surely it wont take long

[shadow gyro]

have fun

[lilac reef]

tbh I was just looking to use FDD rn since abyss was closed

[sweet flax]

ye xd
the sweats get 1 day to perfect affixes and everything before little timmie who is going into nirv without the best team gets his ass handed to him

[lilac reef]

My affixes are horrendous. Spent like 30k NCCs too...

[sweet flax]

huh why game so small

[shadow gyro]

oh no suprise that the shallow seq vid is still not there, i alr did the rewards so ill wait
i need to try fdds cancels first anyways
if i can do them that is

[shadow gyro]

huh, mine is 5gb
but ig bc i deleted extra stuff

[lilac reef]

cancels? where does one learn of this?

[sweet flax]

she got ani cancels? lord please grant me strength in the upcomming abyss

[eternal pond]

How much storage does the game need on mobile bare minimum

[shadow gyro]

#🎮honkai-chat message

[eternal pond]

I got like, 23gb free

[ruby canyon]

help, why is it still asking me to deploy a Valkyrie 💔🥀😭😭🙏🏻

[shadow gyro]

someone else is also having this issue
dunno a fix tho srry 😔

[ruby canyon]

its been like- 20 mins im stuck here cus it needs me to clear the challenge to continue the story 💔🥀

[lilac reef]

o no... looks difficult

[sweet flax]

does it have to do with filling these in? if not try removing a valk from the team and putting them back in

[ruby canyon]

ill try

[shadow gyro]

#☕general-chat message

[cold niche]

Wait so does new coralie and old coralie fit in a team who’d be the last one?

[ruby canyon]

nope, what even is going on with my game

[odd plume]

vita or hofi with new wp

PAW too iirc?

[sweet flax]

yes, paws should generally be the BiS for her

[swift drift]

where can i get fake mail when i try create to acc i got too many request error

[cold niche]

Should I try getting hofi from reserve works?

[odd plume]

just salt your email to make new account

[odd plume]

nothing really wrong with it, but you should check if you have the mean to do that, dont forget her new wp too

[shadow gyro]

ur not the only one 😭 you can report it as a bug
later if i have the time ill look into it and if i find smth i can ping u if u want

[cold niche]

She has a new one 😭

Times like this my old account would’ve probably helped

[shadow gyro]

waxing moon

[ruby canyon]

yes plss

[shadow gyro]

it will rerun this patch (not worth it imo unless u have a surplus)

[cold niche]

I don’t I have to grind to get new coralie weapon still 😭 😭

[odd plume]

unless you pay, will take a long time to buy hofi from that shop

[cold niche]

I don’t think I’ll get hofi now too

Yea I only got 3 of the things out of 24

[odd plume]

if you dont have appropriate support, just slap vbs into it

[gaunt oak]

just atk affixes for coralie?

[cold niche]

vbs?

[odd plume]

most if not all p2 valk want atk
except maybe extremely niche case

[long snow]

okay, is my acc doomed or is it fine? obv im not tryna get to nirvana or sum cus im a casual, but i got badum kiana, new sushang, hohe dkey 4/4

[shadow gyro]

thats a good acc wdym

[quick birch]

sounds fine you have 2 decent teams

[long snow]

jus asking cus im not following meta or anything, i just slam both of those 3 each abyss lmfao

[shadow gyro]

yeah its good

will also help u when u go for goi valks asp

[long snow]

wanted to get badass helia but not enough time

[shadow gyro]

u cant utilize hohe dps tho

[long snow]

yeah i just got her from the beginner thingie to get her cus im a huge ely fan

[shadow gyro]

i see

[long snow]

had accounts before, but always just quit the game at some point

never got as far as i am now

[sweet flax]

well since meta is not a concern, she should rerun this patch in the case you still wanna get her

albeit very late

[shadow gyro]

honestly for a casual u can get away with paws rerun as long as u save enough
but if new valks interest u then go for it too

to give you some more push

[sweet flax]

leaks shouldnt be mentioned here

also no confirmation she is getting a new suit

[long snow]

oh, i though that it was official, sorry!

[shadow gyro]

the pic from event is but thats all

doesnt confirm anything

[sweet flax]

official cn info in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion otherwise officially tweeted by hoyo globally in #hi3-twitter-feed

[long snow]

yeah thats what i was talking about

[cold niche]

Wait who’s vbs?

[sweet flax]

glossary in pins
valkyrie boltstorm

[shadow gyro]

either way u can go to the channels shown to u to get ur confirmation

[long snow]

oki thank you

im still hoping >:)

[shadow gyro]

[raw wraith]

what if i dont pull new coralie so what character i can replace her ?

[shadow gyro]

show ur options

[raw wraith]

all p2 valks execpt lamp, sushang

[shadow gyro]

for vita shell still use her usual team
badum can still use vita n u have jds, dudu, sparkle
dudu dont use vita i dont think she would use fdd lol
paws would use fws n hohe/dudu

actually i think dudu doesnt use vita bc phy weather... u have options tho no issues here

[raw wraith]

tysm , not thing gonna change then i'll save more xd

[shadow gyro]

[raw wraith]

42k i hope i could reach 50k before next valk arrive 😄

[shadow gyro]

good progress 👍

[gaunt oak]

how good is ss chenxue?

[thorn turret]

why is this spending event considered a "mini" one?

[subtle flint]

hello i have a question. i have paws and i was wondering if i should pull the new coralie or wait to pull Vita next time she is in the shop ?

i was told vita was very useful

[raw wraith]

uhh 1 more question should i make a pull new astral op ?

[upbeat egret]

!faq pull vita

[upbeat egret]

No

Rl and ago tier don't need astral op

[raw wraith]

well well in RL only know SS dreamseeker

[steady pelican]

because the "bigger" spending event usually offers a valk to be purchased in shop (albeit usually older ones but still) and more items such as stamps etc., mini spending events main highlight is a skin

[upbeat egret]

!faq pullvita

[small willow]

Vita

Despite being a must-pull on her release, Vita is no longer recommended to pull for.

This is due to a combination of factors:

• New releases take priority.
• Vita cannot support Grail of Infinitude or future ring types.
• She is not best in Wheel of Destiny teams unless ranked.
• In Law of Ascension teams, she is typically not BiS but it depends on the boss/team.
• Vita DPS relies heavily on HoFi (with Waxing Moon equipped) and is not shilled frequently.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[thorn turret]

if i skip this spending event the costume is likely a year ish out to get by other means right

[upbeat egret]

Pull new coralie if you have enough crystal for her+ her weapon

[sweet flax]

btw these are the affixes id want right?

[subtle flint]

if i have enough to pull only the character and not the weapon i shouldn’t pull her at all ?

[upbeat egret]

Dreamseeker is enough for RL

[upbeat egret]

Yes

[upbeat egret]

Its only worth to pull a character if you can afford her weapon too..you can craft the stigmata

[abstract sequoia]

it will be a crudge you will always suffer from if you pull the character. I'd say you can gain a support for later valkyries anyway, but for that you'd need to have a team first

[subtle flint]

okay thank you !

[subtle flint]

okay i see !

[shadow gyro]

prob and prob it can be looked to bchips as well
just know thats its for looks tho, unless u really really really like it or a mad collector

[sweet flax]

good enough attack or need more?

[upbeat egret]

Need more

Where your 1500+ atk?

[sweet flax]

ill probs be able to unlock another dkey but my affixes are all 21+

[upbeat egret]

Damn

[cold niche]

If I got these characters what would the team be

[upbeat egret]

How much dk are u missing ?

[sweet flax]

a handful, im only getting 94 atk iirc

[upbeat egret]

Wtf

[shadow gyro]

fdd, vbm, ig when u get pardo u can use her here

[upbeat egret]

Big coralie + small coralie + RC

[sweet flax]

ill probs keep pulling to try and get xy in spending, then 7t from bp

[upbeat egret]

Yep

[quick birch]

get vbs from the asterite shop and use fdd,vbm,vbs

[shadow gyro]

vbs is just for the ring count? i dont think she offers much else since she cant support roo

[quick birch]

she activates this

[shadow gyro]

i see

[frank light]

should I always pri-arm all signature weapons for valks?

[shadow gyro]

so it is for the count

honestly not bad