general-feedback-discussion

[pliant elm]

They did it with Ptera and they did it with Herrera in the hordtest. Little by little they are destroying each playable

[urban flax]

#general-feedback message

What the hell
How are there still people who want this

[icy lion]

@placid yoke #isle-discussion message

[urban flax]

It's also, like, the most egoist kind of microtransaction one could ever come up with

[placid yoke]

I actually dont mind it. Didnt mind it in DayZ and wouldnt mind it here. Its a cheap game overall. Id pay for it 🙂 but thats why I said unpopular opinion

[urban flax]

It's just a terrible thing all around

Obviously the people who don't mind it are the people who would pay

They're not the ones who get their right to play the game they bought taken away

[placid yoke]

You dont? You still stay in the queue like before. Just the few people that are willing to pay get the priority. Every flight company does that with the speedy lane and a lot of games too. You still can play normally even when you dont pay. Thats why I dont mind it

the plane still doesnt fly without you

[urban flax]

So you stay in queue and never get to play because a bunch of [CENSORED] paid to get in in front of you

[urban flax]

But this game does

fast queues in attraction parks are an excellent comparison tho
They're designed to make people spit out more money, not to improve the experience for users

Also a "priority queue" system works less and less the more people buy it

You'd still be in queues, but now you'd pay for it

And you're forcing everyone else to pay as well if they want a chance at ever getting into a server

[placid yoke]

Oh yeah call the people that are willing to pay more names lol Im sorry but I wont discuss my idea with you anymore if you get butthurt like that.

[urban flax]

I do get hurt at people suggesting the most injust and awful thing ever and being completely unable to view it in any other way than what it would provide them, and them alone

As I said, the most egoistic thing ever

[edgy flax]

@bitter dove do u mean this

[bitter dove]

yeah, playing ht right now and if u look left you swing right

[bronze niche]

They could just make the server overwrite in population

[urban flax]

You mean overflow ?

[bronze niche]

Yep

[urban flax]

Don't you wonder why there is a cap in the first place ?

[bronze niche]

server FPS and it will cause lag

[urban flax]

Exactly

[bronze niche]

it wouldnt be that much of a difference though to matter ngl

[urban flax]

It would
For each extra person getting in, performance gets worse for everyone

[bronze niche]

rust has like 300 slot servers and when 20 people override in it it doesnt effect the server at all

there is no noticeable ping or fps drops

[urban flax]

300 slots
The Isle has only 100 slots servers, 20 more people would change that a lot
Besides, the Isle already has performance and latency issues as it is

[bronze niche]

petit has 300 slot servers and US version gets plenty of overrides, and yet nothing happens

[urban flax]

Because Petits Pieds is using better servers than officials

[bronze niche]

then maybe the devs should be using their servers instead considering they pull in lots of money especially when a youtuber like yellowtones makes a video that gets a million views

official servers in my opinion shouldnt use queue skip, but it should be an option for unofficials

[urban flax]

They do have a lot of servers to keep running tho, on top of actually developing the game
That gets expensive fast

[urban flax]

Let unofficials be whatever greedy bs they want to be

But officials are best kept as a genuine experience

[bronze niche]

it depends, i dont really consider carnivores and herbivores mixpacking to be noticed as a genuine experience especially considering the devs so far have no idea how to combat mixpacking

[urban flax]

They have an idea, which they said they've been working on

[bronze niche]

maybe you think mixpacking is part of the experience i dont know, but i personally dont think it is

[urban flax]

But rules isn't an option, so it isn't as simple

[bronze niche]

well i hope its good enough to put a halt to it, and i doubt it will do anything to stop the deino and ptera mixpacking

[urban flax]

Nothing will completely stop mixpacking
Even hard rules don't

Also deino and ptera mixpacking ? It's like, the least problematic of them all

[bronze niche]

pteras can spot other people for the mixpackers to attack, while mixpackers cannot be touched especially if theres a deino involved and they huddle around areas like south plains and highlands

[urban flax]

But deino contributes nothing to this, anything can just walk away

[bronze niche]

youd have to experience it to understand

[urban flax]

I usually just avoid mixpackers

[edgy flax]

but how would he swing right if he looks right it doesnt make any sense to me tbh

[blissful tiger]

ye lighting/graphics are genuinly getting worse each update for a while now. would be nice if they added that stuff to setting so you can change it

[bitter dove]

if you look left while running , the swing will start from the right side

which makes no sense

[edgy flax]

yes it does make sense

[bitter dove]

k bro lol

[edgy flax]

cus if u go a little bit to the right it hits from the left do u get my drawing

[mortal parrot]

@vapid basalt That looks like the graphic settings are pretty low, it barely looks like it changed to me

[vapid basalt]

Yes, in the photo they were without the lumen, but compare it with your screenshots or in the gameplay itself, and look at the videos I marked in the suggestion, it was much better in the past.

[mortal parrot]

If something is removed it is likely because of an issue it causes or it gets bugged out from something like an engine update

[vapid basalt]

But every update is removing something, if it continues like this when Bary or Kentro arrives the game will look like roblox
I have a list of everything that was removed since the Diablo update, I know it could be a bug but why change it if it was already good and without any bugs? I can send it here for you to take a look if you want

[mortal parrot]

Sure

[vapid basalt]

Ocean
Before, the ocean had volumetric waves and detailed textures, which made it immersive. Now it’s flat, like Legacy, with no shine and no life.

Forests and Vegetation
Forests used to be more alive, with vibrant colors and well-matched plants. Now vegetation looks random and breaks immersion.

Dynamic Water
Water reacted to players in rivers, lakes, and ocean, with rain droplets and waves. Now it only works in rivers, with bugs and no rain textures.

Terrain
Terrain had well-blended textures, especially between rocks and grass, giving a natural, realistic look. Now it looks bad in many areas. Sadly, even Legacy does it better.

Colors
The color palette used to be natural and balanced. After the last Horde Test update, colors became weird

Beaches
Beaches had a nice water shine near the shore. Now the sand is just dark without that shine.

Removed Elements
Rocks, plants, and even palm trees were removed, making the map feel empty and weird.

Graphics and Shadows
Shadows were realistic and gave depth. Now they're simple and ugly, even worse than Legacy, despite the huge potential of Unreal 4/5 used at Gateway's start.

[vapid basalt]

I forgot to mention that most of these prints are mine with high settings

[blissful tiger]

yeah, idk why this is either. but i hope they revert it back or give the option in settings

the same with the bird effect when roaring and ambient sounds (i barely hear ambience sounds)
they smited the cool bird effect when u one call and i still dont know why. hopefully it makes a return

[vapid basalt]

did they remove this???💔

It's sad to know that developers practically don't look at this side of the game, I was attracted to evrima mainly because of the graphics and systems

[blissful tiger]

yeah, it hasnt been here for a while and idk why

[blissful tiger]

yeah, i feel like with every update. visuals and sound-desing just gets worse for some reason

[hidden pilot]

100% flawless logic yup

Game looks and sounds great to me, idk what you guys are seeing

[vapid basalt]

Well, I know sometimes we don't even notice it because of the difficult gameplay, but it affects us a lot. But haven't you noticed that the oceans are just a water texture? Without movement and waves? Where are the safe rocks that were in the Southern Plains? The shine on the sand on the beaches?

[hidden pilot]

There arent waves because the whole waves and tides mechanic isn't even close to a priority

Graphics are not a priority in general

Not yet

[vapid basalt]

I know they are not a priority, and they shouldn't be now, but if everything was perfect before, with everything implemented, why did they remove it?

It would be very easy to just put it back instead of removing it like they do in every update.

[hidden pilot]

Performance, like spy already said

[hidden pilot]

Uh, no. Not how that works

[vapid basalt]

It's a good reason, but they could make a performance preset or actually optimize the game instead of just losing quality.

[hidden pilot]

Omg dude, again. Priorities

[vapid basalt]

I'm not telling them to do it now and delay rex, bary etc. in the future.

[hidden pilot]

Would you rather development takes longer with poor performance and amazing graphics, or faster development with better performance and decent graphics?

[vapid basalt]

I prefer the game with good graphics and good performance, I understand that now it may be bad, but this is a suggestion for the future

[hidden pilot]

And in the future they can and will focus on graphics more

[vapid basalt]

I hope so

[indigo gulch]

@placid yoke #general-feedback message I think this has been mentioned a few times, but the isle is absolutely not struggling for money. Paying for priority queue is such a jerk move for people that just wanna play after a long day of work. They shouldnt be forced to go to unofficials to play the game.

[queen mortar]

@olive bolt for the love of god, no bigger groups!

they can already do it as is fairly easily

[olive bolt]

Just increase its size then xD speed is fine

[indigo gulch]

size equals health tho

[olive bolt]

Increase the size, decrease the acceleration and give charge some sort of bleed or body break

[indigo gulch]

body break for carno?

[olive bolt]

Even rn its 1.3tons charging you at 50km/h

[indigo gulch]

yeah but why would you give a break option to something that WILL outrun you

[olive bolt]

Bc it still has a low amount of stam and overall the charge doesnt do a ton of dmg

[indigo gulch]

but you need to be able to at least have a chance

[olive bolt]

And rn carno is super weak

A good teno can stun you and get 3 kicks to your head putting you on red in 1 stun

[indigo gulch]

not on hordetest at least

[olive bolt]

A dib can do similar

[olive bolt]

Current live branch it is

[indigo gulch]

fighting a dibble as carno is insane xD

[olive bolt]

Its on your diet :p

Not that I'd personally do it

Steg also 1 tap power swings you to the tail

[indigo gulch]

there are so many things on diets that shouldnt be

that doesn't mean you should buff it to hunt it. Porbably just on the list for smaller dibbles

[olive bolt]

It shouldnt hunt steg

I've also beaten carnos dozens of times in dilo 1v1

[indigo gulch]

#general-feedback message @queen mortar freaking preach bro. I don't remember the last time I've seen a herbivore in a migration zone

[olive bolt]

Even omni 1v1 isnt that hard

[olive bolt]

Fr tho. Hate herb megapacks

Also that. Herb megapacks make it impossible for current carno to do anything

[indigo gulch]

I just hate that I play deino in a migration zone and I see 0 freaking people

herb megapacks are impossible to deal with for anything that isnt a cera mega pack

[olive bolt]

Even playing carno w 3 ppl are outmatched by tenos having groups double yours

And 2 tenos can kill a carno in the time of one stun

[olive bolt]

Literally

Even 1v1 cera as carno isnt the easiest tho i believe cera is getting nerfed (well deserved)

[indigo gulch]

although a big omni pack can kill a few maias in a maia megapack

[indigo gulch]

about time

[jovial vine]

Growing trikes on the HT we’d just sit in one spot while the pz kept respawning on us, it is very exploitable and boring

[olive bolt]

Makes it impossible for carnis to do anything too

Get one location where all herbs start to sit bc of that

[jovial vine]

Mhmmm

[olive bolt]

Yeah rn 2 bites from cera makes a carno sick

And unless you are TOP speed you cant even stun a cera

[jovial vine]

I do agree food does need to be rebalanced for em so they down hoover down bushes so fast, but there needs to be a system inplace to avoid PZ’s always popping up in the same place (also taking into account grouping/ungrouping exploits to get a preferable one to spawn)

[queen mortar]

[jovial vine]

Also so PZ’s can’t support megaherds at all

[queen mortar]

i don't think they should support anything, not even an individual

[olive bolt]

Fr

Should be absolute last resort stuff

[jovial vine]

Personally I’d prefer old food spawns where plants just spawned in biomes but a bit more scarce, and then have MZ’s for big food amounts alongside it

[queen mortar]

everyone should be required to move around for food, i think Herbivore food placement would be ideal if we had BOTH constant spawns as well as the migration/patrol spawns. so like when it says in your Tab menu that "X food spawns at A, B, C locale" you know you can go to those locales and expect to find that food and be rewarded for your being keen on your surroundings, not just a "go to zone marked on your compass" BS, that's not survivally at all. foraging has no part in it whatsoever

[jovial vine]

Hold Q for food is the herbivore diet experience

[queen mortar]

makes it extremely boring and unengaging for herbivore players because you know most of the time, when you enter a MZ, you can just hold Q and voila

exactly, yep

in literally any other survival game, you are required to find food visually, especially plants

[jovial vine]

Hopefully if they do actually bring back VFX scent, the act of finding herbie food could be made more vague so you actually need to engage a bit more

[queen mortar]

and they're marked by being colorful or having unique silhouettes, if you were required to do that as an herbivore, just finding food would be more engaging

the compass makes it a braindead process, and i'm surprised more people don't question that

it doesn't need to be that way

[jovial vine]

I can’t understand why it’s not just visually, as some of the food items can be so small you’d miss them, just something like a faint vfx cloud that gradually narrows in as you get closer would be good

[queen mortar]

sure

[jovial vine]

I bring this up all the time, but I think people want it to be braindead easy so they can more quickly minmax perfect diets

[queen mortar]

i might just repost my old herbivore feedback

it would be funny if i just forwarded the old message so you can see the timestamp with it

[jovial vine]

Carnis would benefit from a more vague Vfx scent too ofcourse, but their diets are already way more engaging by virtue of live foods needing to be located visually/by sound, and anything that is scentable tends to invite competition

Meanwhile herbies is indeed just holding Q

[vital laurel]

https://youtu.be/EOQJX3W3Pdc i wish we had this

[gritty kernel]

yeah carno is mostly supposed to be fighting stuff smaller than it like raptors or dryos, not fighting ceratos on the regular. I didn't say they can't fight under any circumstance

[hidden pilot]

We have these one shots ingame

[vital laurel]

yeah but it doesnt sound like this in game atm

[hidden pilot]

I've heard this

in HT

[vital laurel]

yeah but it is a lot different than this

[hidden pilot]

eh

[novel oxide]

Where ist the Now Update ?

[hidden pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[onyx jetty]

wasnt trike supposed to drop to live servers?

[vernal jacinth]

Eventually

[onyx jetty]

am i tripping but did they say it would drop i guess last week now or is it this week?

[vernal jacinth]

They “said” they’d drop Rex into HT. But a week could be three weeks to a month or longer. I never trust time frames the devs put up. Cause they never keep to it

[noble pine]

Is trikes new sounds being bad really a controversial take?

[fading quail]

I would need to see a before and after to compare, If you have a vid then id love to see it so I could give my opinion! (I couldnt find any clear examples on youtube)

I can only compare them to Legacy atm since I havnt heard trikes calls yet

[noble pine]

https://youtube.com/shorts/iRvSLJ0N1yc?si=BrFweOWWUPxgu2W9 legacy sounds and first evrima sounds

https://youtube.com/shorts/qsyycJ2rUWA?si=mRr9PxsqAVt04rvP New sounds

It’s just such a downgrade imo

I can give the broadcast and friendly a pass but the threaten is what is really bad in my opinion, it doesn’t sound threatening at all.

[maiden anvil]

@midnight heath may I tell you why I think elders won’t provide a “PVP” aspect but a survival one?

[midnight heath]

Have at it!

With increased stats, it makes it hard to ignore that people will attempt to stack that with mutations like we saw in the HT with the elder Omniraptor.

[maiden anvil]

@midnight heath As elders will provide a “end goal”, I think it’s important to note that people will actually attempt to survive. Juveniles fight way less than adults as their goal is to make it to adulthood. The same would go for any growth stage as players will want to finish their life cycle fully. This is why I think it’s wrong to say it’ll increase the PVP situation because I don’t expect player being as willing to take these risks of dying.

Please reply to my message so I get a notification once you respond to it

[wheat nova]

#general-feedback message @fierce smelt good suggestion but u can just download msi afterburner and cap it using that, which will hand ur game less stutters and smoothers gameplay than an ingame cap.

[midnight heath]

I understand what you're saying, but you cannot ignore the fact that there's a hefty amount of players, more so newer ones that play this game solely from a PVP aspect. Whilst a lot of players will attempt to live out their growth and survive, there will be plenty who also look to just bulldoze through whatever player they can, because they can.

In the HT, elder Omniraptors used their increased stats and numbers to group up and massacure whatever they could. I understand that this is in the early stages of development, and Dondi himself said that you cannot sit in a corner and become an elder; however the determination to ruin someone else's good time is strong in this community.

We already have people willing to dedicate an extended period of time growing something for the exclusive purpose to kill other players and I just don't see elders being any different to those players.

[thick wolf]

Should Austro be able to pin

[midnight heath]

@thick wolf #general-feedback message The strong legs in question. You can see it's body structure here compared to an Omni, I can't see Austro pinning really anything.

Austro is small and gracile.

[thick wolf]

Like secretary birds have very stork like legs and they pin and even have been know to kill prey with one kick

[midnight heath]

Secretary birds specialize in killing and hunting snakes, not things bigger than it.

Trampling a snake isn't the same as trampling something far larger and more robust than yourself.

[thick wolf]

Well if Austro is gonna be Albert to hunt it’s gonna hunt small Dino’s that would be easy to pin

Able *

[midnight heath]

Austro is a fisher.

It eats fish

[thick wolf]

It’s gonna be very adaptable edit can’t just be eating school fish its whole life

[maiden anvil]

Understandable. It may reduce “boredom” as you’re active trying to survive but you’re right, there’s always gonna be bullies around

[midnight heath]

I know I won't be playing for that reason, but it's those few apples in the bunch.

[jovial vine]

I dont see any issue with austro pinning stuff like beipi size, but it does come across as a more relaxed playable than say Omni

It'd be fun to have it swan dive into some swimming juvinile mind you

I imagine it'll have more in common with herrera in terms of playstyle than omni

I do hope it gets some kinda water sense feature with those cool shades, so it can see stuff swiming around

[woven bane]

pin is a lame mechanic

[jovial vine]

It's here to stay, so it might as well have it (ideally not as good at grappling/pining as omni)

[woven bane]

spreading it is just exacerbating the issue, yea it’s here to stay but i’d rather not the whole game turning into RMB to win

[jovial vine]

I've always pushed for giving pounce more of a telegraph/recovery on missing, and that'd be a lot less work than say making a whole new interactive bucking system

Although, I did suggest using attacked in certain directions influencing pouncers in some way, so like if you get pounced by an omni on the side, you can alt attack on that side to try and dislodge it

[edgy flax]

https://tenor.com/view/bpk-stan-twitter-pose-gif-1962983045571546525

[thick wolf]

Troodon should be able to swim like herra and have fish on their diet

[woven bane]

troodon fishing sounds bizarre, why does it need that lol

[thick wolf]

Mix packing and boar invisible Kamehameha

[woven bane]

it has a whole zone for itself it can hunt in and scavenging is always an option

[thick wolf]

Depend on if u even spawn near players

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

Make Spiro 2 and make aquatic gameplay extremely one-sided towards one aquatic creature

I find it somewhat ironic that making every water source deeper makes aquatic gameplay infinitely more shallow

[blissful tiger]

i miss the old calls, i think theyre slowly ruining the calls time by time now

i hope they dont change allo calls too much

[queen walrus]

make it less boring

it's not like mega will be a fish eater but it's going to be a good swimmer anyway

[limber hull]

i mean, troodon really ain't that boring

especially in HT given it's now the king of endurance preds

[queen walrus]

You don't know what you're talking about 👍

[urban flax]

Turning troodon into a fisher is weird

[queen walrus]

Troodon packs are very rare

[limber hull]

I literally play Troodon more than every other animal

It is my favourite animal in the entire game bar none

It is the animal I waited years for since I started playing and still haven't stopped playing when it finally released

[queen walrus]

That's you, troodon is among the neglected playables

[queen walrus]

that has no relevance at all

[limber hull]

"You don't know what you're talking about"

It has complete relevance to that statement lmao

[queen walrus]

Troodon is among the neglected playables on this roster, due to it not being that fun
It being able to dive and be a faster swimmer would give it more depth

[alpine oasis]

are we arguing about feedback posts?

[queen walrus]

Ptera being able to dive is also a widely requested feature, because ptera would be more fun that way

[limber hull]

Ptera makes sense diving given it lives so closely to water and literally fishes

[wheat nova]

these 2 always go at it

[limber hull]

Troodon? Its core hunting style is completely disabled in water, and it's not particularly a diver

[queen walrus]

Would give more depth to a neglected boring playable

[limber hull]

It's neither of those things lmao

[urban flax]

More "depth" haha
But seriously, if troodon needs anything, that's not being a fisher

[alpine oasis]

brother u still got the newbie plant how can u know 💀

[limber hull]

It literally just got a complete QoL overhaul in HT, so it's not neglected, and it's certainly not boring

[queen walrus]

It's not boring? Why is it neglected?

[wheat nova]

bro what did i do to u

[queen walrus]

By the playerbase, not devs

Explain why the playerbase neglect troodon and most often play other things

[urban flax]

The players are too busy playing cera

[limber hull]

There is a consistent narrative that illustrates everything below a certain sizeclass as either useless or inconsequential, and lots of people can't move past that

It applies to every single small animal, regardless of niche, nothing can really be done besides universally change the mentality

Also, there are just... Easier, more powerful animals that people really don't have to try hard with and get crazy high value with (cerato), so it's not really often worth pursuing more unique or risky gameplay

[queen walrus]

yep, troodon's boring compared to other playables in summary

[limber hull]

In your opinion Troodon is boring. Good for you. I enjoy it

[urban flax]

OH btw Wave what would you think about a "matchmaking system" ?
The idea isn't super clear idea in my head yet, but since things such as troodon are much more fun in big packs, and now that we have spawn codes, there could be a kind of system in the game that lets you go "I want to play as a troodon pack" and it picks other players who also want to play as a troodon pack and spawns them together on the same server ?

Maybe it'd be against the core concept of finding packmates to play with

[limber hull]

You could arguably do that with just spawn codes

[queen walrus]

No, it's objective. people don't play it

[limber hull]

Go into a server chat and say "here's a spawn code want to play"

[urban flax]

Yeah but I mean in a streamlined way in-game

[limber hull]

I stand here as the objective antithesis to that theory

[desert arch]

"Troodon isnt fun" 🥀

[queen walrus]

the way the game works completely disables that

[queen walrus]

Few people play it compared to the other playables, so it's boring

[limber hull]

lol what

[urban flax]

What ?

[junior nymph]

not big = not fun

[urban flax]

It's already possible to do with spawncodes, as Wave said
I just think there could be a "matchmaking" button or smth that makes it so players wouldn't have to use discord to do it

It's not even a serious idea though, just a thought

[limber hull]

You thinking it's boring does not equal everyone thinking its boring

You wanna know why you don't see many Troodons? Because they aren't in plain sight. They are in the dark, or in sanctuaries, or hidden in the tall grass. They are objectively something that is meant to remain unseen

Their gameplay involves you not seeing them that often lol

[queen walrus]

That's not what I said mr. streamsniper
Troodon, despite being a carnivore, is very neglected compare to other dinos.
Even though it has the advantage of being carni, which should make it more likely to be played

[desert arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102619485334143006/1354875768542466218/6B04AA1.MP4?ex=685102a3&is=684fb123&hm=b891e53f2500668d04f8ba69cf098912a010df1a306ed177e345e8e7f5691568& I almost died of boredom while doing this yall

Troodon is boring, its true

[junior nymph]

top 10 comebacks do you say anything apart from that lol

[queen walrus]

Matchmaking in that sense is not really possible for this game, unless higher pop

[limber hull]

"I don't see Troodons"

Yea I wonder why you don't see Troodons, because all of those raptors don't seem to see Troodons either

[junior nymph]

also troodon has been buffed alot in the recent HT

like its fun

[desert arch]

Even live branch troodon is fun

[junior nymph]

yeah

[desert arch]

It always was fun, even on spiro

[queen walrus]

"i don't see"

No, it's not "i don't see", they are objectively played less compared to most playables 💀

[limber hull]

It baffles me that people not seeing the animals meant to remain unseen makes said animals not exist

Literally just a complete lack of object permanence at that point. If I don't SEE it, it doesn't exist

[urban flax]

Higher pop ?
Are you trying to tell me it would not be possible to find 6 people willing to play troodon in the entire world at the same time ?

[queen walrus]

Do you deny that they're one of the least played carnis?

[limber hull]

And what's your evidence for this

[queen walrus]

walking case study here

[limber hull]

answer the question lol

[desert arch]

Idk man I still got like half a dozen friends who are willing to play it with me regularly 😭

[limber hull]

what "objective" evidence proves Troodon remains unplayed

is it how often you see the animal meant to be unseen? because we've already covered that argument

[queen walrus]

By playing the game, you can alone notice the dwindled population of troodons

They used to be everywhere closer to its release, now they're barely anywhere

[desert arch]

Even if it is underplayed (it isnt tbh), Id rather be it that way anyway, randoms only screv things up.

[queen walrus]

There was a chart somewhere that showed which playables were played most, i can't seem to find it

[limber hull]

oh so we dont see them that much

huh

[junior nymph]

they were everywhere cause guess what it was a new playable that happens with new playables

[queen walrus]

Perhaps it was a petits chart

[queen walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-pubg-loading-sniper-reload-gif-15505006

[junior nymph]

am I wrong though?

[queen walrus]

Frolo (I need a stream to snipe)

[limber hull]

you arent, that's why he's using the stream sniper argument

hes got nothing lol

[queen walrus]

Where is the chart that showed population of each dino?

[junior nymph]

move on ganglang ||it didnt even happen to you..||

the streamer moved on I moved on your lucky I aint even rude to ya

[urban flax]

babylon (I'm on my 4th alt-account to bypass bans)

[limber hull]

we have about as much proof he streamsniped as you do that troodon is unplayed lol

[jovial vine]

trood needs those rat and bug AI instead of diving+fishing

[limber hull]

god i love rats

[junior nymph]

you know what I love

[queen walrus]

First time joining this server 👍

[junior nymph]

fish

[queen walrus]

server didn't move on tho, you're banned forever

[urban flax]

bruh you're not fooling anyone

[queen walrus]

🙂

[junior nymph]

this is gen feedback

[desert arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1291132690120183890/1384148044781588601/marked_image.png?ex=68515fd2&is=68500e52&hm=d3407b921899e6b6b888f028f4ba0a1ee69e8bd99ba51c09ed27b241753a138f&
In this picture you can see troodon is sitting at a comfy ~3% pick rate, same as dilo, and is only beaten significantly the extremely popular/op dinos

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1291132690120183890/1384148044781588601/marked_image.png?ex=68515fd2&is=68500e52&hm=d3407b921899e6b6b888f028f4ba0a1ee69e8bd99ba51c09ed27b241753a138f&

[junior nymph]

also if I wanted I could make a alt too lol

[desert arch]

Dang it

[limber hull]

embed failure 😔

[desert arch]

Embed fail :/

[junior nymph]

marked image...

[limber hull]

the image just doesnt exist wtf

[junior nymph]

ITS ALL A DREAM!

LMAO

[limber hull]

oh my god lol hes gone full circle

[queen walrus]

<@&933486433342222376> Making alts to join this server is prohibited iirc

[limber hull]

Ironic

[urban flax]

LOL
How ironic

[junior nymph]

thats a discord account...

lmao

[jovial vine]

Just a lil something something to help it get growth growing, not to the scale of herrera with fishing where it can sit in one spot and eat fish all day (ignoring fish spawns being a bit awkward rn)

[queen walrus]

yeah you were talking abt making an alt to join

[junior nymph]

join what?

this discord? buddy im not banned 💀

[desert arch]

Troodon is more picked than deino, thats crazy lmao

[topaz crane]

Yes as per rule 13 in #rules-and-info

[limber hull]

@urban flax God this is funny

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-strife-tifa-lockhart-aerith-gainsborough-cloti-gif-27060423

[junior nymph]

why did they ping a discord mod over that lol

[urban flax]

This is hilarious

[junior nymph]

I pop my head anywhere he has to just insult me in every way possible ||Ive never talked to this person apart from when they first talked to me||

[urban flax]

That's just how he is

[junior nymph]

unless he got banned somewhere and hes on a alt 😮

[limber hull]

you'd be surprised frolo

i think he's more familiar than you think lol

[urban flax]

I was not joking
He's literally on his 4th alt account

[junior nymph]

the sad thing is

theres not enough proof for any of it so like no bans I guess

[topaz crane]

Okay I believe its time to get back on track with the context of the channel

[junior nymph]

spandy

[junior nymph]

wait I have a question

[urban flax]

Apart from reusing the same username, having the same personality, and reusing things/arguments they learned on one of their previous accounts ?

[untold geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/antman-what-the-hell-happened-here-avengers-gif-18240147

[junior nymph]

If I know someone has a 100% alt on here (its the same name and all) could I get it banned?

[topaz crane]

dm me any info and ill have a look

[queen walrus]

Yeah @junior nymph was just talking about that lol

[junior nymph]

k

[queen walrus]

you know joji is a popular artist right

It's my first time joining this

[junior nymph]

im not talking to you

its about someone else lol

whos like a actual bad person

[queen walrus]

who in this server is "an actual bad person"

i haven't seen anyone be a bad person on here and get awway w it

[junior nymph]

au server stuff

dw about it

[queen walrus]

writing bad stuff in chat?

[junior nymph]

also some other weird things but yes

[queen walrus]

what weird things can be done apart from stuff in chat, in evrima

[junior nymph]

stuff id rather not repeat

keep on convo lol (I dont wanna get in troubles)

[alpine oasis]

lmao joking mate

[junior nymph]

that was a funny line

[alpine oasis]

hes a bit frustrated thats why he didnt get it

cuz he got swallowed whole by a deino

[junior nymph]

oh...

deino should just be able to scoop things into its mouth and 1 tap them if they are small enough

its be silly

[jovial vine]

#general-feedback message

I agree we desperately need a tutorial, but this is an issue of onboarding players to the games mechanics rather than an issue of players seeing the game as a PVP game. This is a consequence of there being no end goal, and friction in survival being player based on food spawns and player interactions, hopefully the additions of elders will give us a good sense of how players engage with the game once there is an end goal, and you cant feasibly live forever without growing weak, and additions of PVE will give us more to engage with in the game world itself

[junior nymph]

elders IMO will fix the issues with pvp game stuff

as it will make you work towards a goal and then you will actually take your fights carefully instead of running headfirst into someone

[jovial vine]

Hopefully!

More stuff like the brittle bones debuff would be good also, long term punishments for being SILLY

[urban flax]

The brittle bones debuff ?

[jovial vine]

yeah isnt there a debuff you get when you gets fractures a lot?

or did I manifest that in a dream

[junior nymph]

I dont think so lol

I was all a dream

[urban flax]

I think you have pretty vivid dreams

[junior nymph]

im not real

[jovial vine]

My bad lol, I swear there was something about it before

[junior nymph]

HEY I HAVE HAD DREAMS OF SPINO FIGHTING CHIRUS

[jovial vine]

anyway if that isnt something, it'd be cool to have

[junior nymph]

it was peak btw

[urban flax]

I did dream pounce was directional and I still believe it was in the game at some point despite knowing it was a dream

[junior nymph]

I dream general feedback ideas, matchups between dinos that arent in yet and when dinos are going to release

all my dreams were a dino has release, I wake up and its there so

its more like a vision

[hidden pilot]

#general-feedback message @queen walrus
A tutorial is planned but it is in no way a priority because they would have to remake it every time a new mechanic is introduced or changed.

but with the new UI, they hope to fix some of the struggle

[queen walrus]

that issue is arguably more important than the hacker issue

Also iirc, they mentioned the tutorial would be minimal

[fierce smelt]

true but most some people dont know how and having it in game would just be overall easier i feel

[hidden pilot]

no, no it is not

@minor sable The carno hitbox is known about and will be fixed

[queen walrus]

It is

We lose more players to that

[hidden pilot]

how are HACKS a bigger problem than some confusing controls

[queen walrus]

We lose less players to that, than to new players not knowing what to do

plenty of people playing this game are not in the discord

[hidden pilot]

do you have statistics?

look, the devs plan on addressing both of these issues. Don't whine about it and just be patient

[junior nymph]

@little oyster there is one

in the group tab

[little oyster]

I did not see that, I'll check to make sure that that's there soon. I did specifically mean a Keybind though.

[queen walrus]

Calm down

[junior nymph]

ah yeah.. they should just unequip name tags when going out of hud

[hidden pilot]

[little oyster]

Agreed.

[queen walrus]

This is like me saying "there are more omni players than steg players" and then you say "statistics?" without using your brain or common sense

[hidden pilot]

alright im not getting into another pointless argument with you

[urban flax]

That is not a very elegant way to admit you can't back up your claims

[queen walrus]

it's not possible to 100% prove that there are more omnis than stegos

so people like you with zero to none common sense will always have the upper hand in that regard

[urban flax]

So you say

[icy lion]

@queen walrus Enough of that behavior

[wheat nova]

oooooooh

[queen walrus]

yeah they're weird sometimes

[wheat nova]

interesting coming from u

[wheat nova]

new account, what does it have to do with anything?

[hidden pilot]

What on God's green Earth could this possibly have to do with the conversation 😭

[wheat nova]

😭 😭 😭

[limber hull]

your validity as a person is dictated by your time spent in the Isle discord don't ya know

lmao

[queen walrus]

have you been in this server before?

[hidden pilot]

why does that matter

[limber hull]

he wants to find a reason to call the mods and get someone banned lol

[woven bane]

you’ve been here for whopping 30 days

[limber hull]

well, that account has been here for 30 days lol

[queen walrus]

it's a month

[woven bane]

yea, that’s pretty much how many days there is in a month lel

[stable crow]

[queen walrus]

there are

[woven bane]

https://tenor.com/view/deimos-r6-siege-gif-6204485797971098070

[queen walrus]

rage bait?

i just remind you for the next time

[woven bane]

i’ll just do it again

[queen walrus]

make typos on purpose?

[woven bane]

what i said

since you do this often btw

[bronze niche]

fr lmao

[little lake]

#general-feedback message i agree 100% but the idiots in the community would be rioting

[icy lion]

@subtle prism How would you make mapu different from giga?

[limber hull]

same way carchar would be different from giga lol

honestly the concept of the roster having giga, acro, carchar and mapu would be hysterical

more than half of the carnivore apexes just being different flavours of giga

[icy lion]

At least acro is planned to be...... not a bleeder though I can't say I'm a fan of the current plans

[limber hull]

i just dont see why you'd play a giga if acro is presented with having similar sized prey, but it can kill them solo lol

[icy lion]

Fingers crossed that when balancing comes around for it the intended prey range is knocked down a size

[hidden pilot]

Same reason you'd play velo instead of troodon

yeah sure troodon is arguably better, but maybe i feel like playing velo instead

[limber hull]

not even because at least velo might have its own niche rather than literally just being a clone of the other thing

[hidden pilot]

true

of course concept art is only concept art, acro killing a camara solo probably has a good chance of not making it to fruition

[harsh sun]

#general-feedback message explain how the devs could make it unique from the other Carcharodontosaurids that are confirmed for the game

[subtle prism]

yes i agree with you they are very similar however it was just an example, i think isle should add more new dinosaurs which weren’t originally in legacy. it would be cool

in general just add many different dinosaurs so people have a bigger variety of what to play

[subtle prism]

fr

[hidden pilot]

dude we have 58 confirmed playable species

[subtle prism]

yeah and most were in legacy

[icy lion]

Carchar potentially being one of them

[subtle prism]

its like you might aswell just play legacy

[hidden pilot]

no

[hidden pilot]

yeah no what

[subtle prism]

didnt they bin that

[icy lion]

Possibly maybe

[hidden pilot]

we have no idea

[icy lion]

But if they binned carchar why would they add mapu

[hidden pilot]

^

[subtle prism]

ig

do you know where i could view all the current planned dinos

[hidden pilot]

also species count is NOT a good incentive to play legacy. Everything else about legacy is dog dookie in comparison to evrima

[hidden pilot]

ask hacker maybe

[subtle prism]

i love evrima but i feel like legacy felt more crisp and clean

[icy lion]

This is unofficial, but pretty accurate as far as species goes https://imgur.com/a/isle-unofficial-size-charts-yBUsBg2

[hidden pilot]

he made a tier list website

[subtle prism]

cheers

[hidden pilot]

its missing several playables

[icy lion]

Such as?

I don't think irl utah is on there

[hidden pilot]

ok i should say missing some and still having scrapped ones

[icy lion]

But other than that, idk what's not there

[hidden pilot]

charch isnt on there, utah isnt(as you said), plateo was scrapped, diplo seems to be scrapped(though ig i cant blame it being put on there), and there's no gen1

[subtle prism]

i think its pretty old

[hidden pilot]

oh raui was scrapped too

[hidden pilot]

it is

[subtle prism]

it still had carno old stats and kory was scrapped

ah ok

[hidden pilot]

cory wasnt scrapped

but troo also isnt 40kg

[icy lion]

I didn't share it for the stats, I shared it for the species list

[subtle prism]

you sure? i just feel like its going to be a maia and para in one so its kind of useless

although it looks cool

[icy lion]

When Nova made it it was based primarily around irl estimates

[hidden pilot]

doesnt mean they cant make it into soemthing, plus many people have had interesting ideas for it

[subtle prism]

does look nice

[hidden pilot]

also, as to the point I made with wavepool earlier, maybe I feel like playing cory isntead of para sometimes?

[subtle prism]

yeah that kind of fits my idea of adding more species in the same specie group or however you call it

[hidden pilot]

but if you just add more apex carnivores thats not good

like at all

[subtle prism]

yes i know at the end i said add more mid tiers and small tiers

[hidden pilot]

not a good way to balance

you don't want to bloat the roster that much

[subtle prism]

they shouldve added dinos in order of size

[hidden pilot]

nah, they need the ceiling as a reference

[subtle prism]

i dont really see why they added trex and trike mow

[hidden pilot]

that ceiling being rex and trike

[subtle prism]

fair enough

[hidden pilot]

plus allo is likely the next one after rex

[subtle prism]

and kentro alongside hopefully

by the time they finish the adding the whole roster it will be 2030

they need to hurry up

[queen mortar]

did someone ping me in feedback? i had a ghost ping

so the post is deleted

@charred beacon they do that for every major content update

they have not said those are discontinued, so we can expect more

[stark spade]

@subtle prism how would mapusaurus be any unique, its just giga/carchar but slightly smaller

[brave trout]

Anyone else suffering terrible ping on HT ?

[hidden pilot]

not lately

[latent olive]

@subtle prism just THROWING buzzwords lmao

I don’t think adding ANOTHER giga clone to the game will be a good addition, when we already (maybe, maybe not) have carcharodontosaurus and acrocanthosaurus (which was upsized)

[subtle prism]

was just an example clearly not a great one

[noble pine]

The problem with adding mapu is we’re already getting giga, acro and charchara. @subtle prism

Oh, you guys are talking about it

[grave iris]

#general-feedback message @arctic panther 100% agreed especially for omnis or troos

[arctic panther]

It’d be so cute!

[thick wolf]

Should austro be able to pin

[junior nymph]

@pseudo pebble where did you find that stuff

also why does that matter about what dondi said. It had literally nothing to do with the flip attack apart from doing it in spar mode

[queen locust]

don said it in a video with a twitch streamer

[junior nymph]

oh I know about the actual thing he said

I mean the changes

[queen locust]

ohhh idk

[junior nymph]

either it was made to seem like a changelog or its just really old stuff

[pseudo pebble]

I think its r e a l l y simple that it makes no sense to ackknowledge something and then instead of fixing the issue to buff a playable

[junior nymph]

as he said the hitbox is big. But it doesnt mean he cant buff it

IMO dibble is kinda bad if a creature needs to block its back into a wall it needs buffs

[pseudo pebble]

Stay in your bubble, its fine

[junior nymph]

huh?

did I say something wrong?

[woven bane]

yea you disagreed, we can’t be having that apparently

[junior nymph]

oh

mb I guess

me when I dont want the 3T animal to die to a raptor or cerato

[earnest saffron]

That's the thing though. If dibble does what herbivores seem to do best and finds any nook or cranny to shove its rear into, you cannot touch it. Might as well walk away and find an easier target. Make it stronger and you're just making it untouchable both in and out of camping, yk? Also definitely feel like the "hitbox" issues and the sliding around like dice in yahtzee while in spar mode should be addressed before any buffs are considered.

I think it does need a way to defend its backside better, especially against ceratos. But that could be made better with something as simple as less of a delay on alt attacks. I mean, teno is out here spamming those claws like a machine gun, so lol

[junior nymph]

if im not mistaken those buffs are OLDDD + the thrash one was needed. The attack was useless lol\

[limber hull]

but thats literally ALL dibble can do against many things

its genuinely not that good if not slapped into a corner lol

[timid cliff]

How’s HT changes ?

[earnest saffron]

I dunno how recent they are. I'm usually on the attacking end of dibble, not the playing end lol. And a lot of the time they don't even try to fight, just start wailing their lungs out to every other herbivore in the general vicinity to come to their rescue while they spar waddle by water/on a ledge/between rocks etc etc. It's like they don't know they have buggy mechanic advantage and I'd probably be dead in 5 seconds if they turned around and actually fought

From my experience it does fine 1v1, but struggles a lot against a good duo on up. I dunno. I'm not really sure how one balances a dinosaur that's meant to be heavy-set and defensive to deal with multiple targets unless it's in a herd. Make it herbivore-cerato ig. That thing sure does a good job of stomping all over the entire roster smh

[dapper leaf]

been a few months since I last played, have the devs fixed the need to migrate constantly for herbivore diets, especially when nesting and raising young.

or are we still left eating grass with debuffs?

[earnest saffron]

Herbs can find diets in patrol zones, which usually spawn closer to your actual location than the migration zones

[junior nymph]

patrols are the worst things in the game rn

call me crazy

[earnest saffron]

How come?

[junior nymph]

encourages sitting in the same spot afking and getting mega herds. Migrations made people move around the map which made places like swamp actually have players

[earnest saffron]

Ah. Yeah, that's true ig

[junior nymph]

#general-feedback message #general-feedback message I did these 2 ideas to fix them problems

[limber hull]

the animal is very much a 1v1 menace, or an exceptional herd animal

typically overwhelming it tends to be the best method, and there's very little dibble can do except hide in a corner and wait

[dapper leaf]

I have the issue that a lot of the time with carnivores leading to their migration zones there would be no players or AI

[earnest saffron]

If they ran out and forced you to move once all the food had been depleted like they're supposed to, then it would be a happy medium of "you can exist outside of MZ in smaller groups" and "bigger groups and more people in MZ"

PZs that actually ran out at a reasonable rate I feel like would encourage territorial behavior between herbs, too. If you want to stay in your little comfy spot longer, you have to chase others out

[dapper leaf]

A big issue with herbies when raising babies is the need to constantly move for the diet, otherwise you're left on 25% eating grass and stacked with debuffs should your nest get raided. and the nesting is a end game rewards for growing 100% and finding a mate

[earnest saffron]

Yeah. That's why I don't necessarily hate patrol zones for herbs, it has its purpose, it just needs to be refined I think

[limber hull]

i think patrols are a good idea but i just WISH they'd spawn away from you, not right next to you

force you to, y'know, patrol to reach them

rather than stay in one place and never need to move

[dapper leaf]

I still prefer the way it worked on Spiro V4 just have dedicated diets per zone, who cares if you get all the diets and then decide to rest in one spot.

Deinos/Crocs are still allowed to camp any big water source and be fine for their diets.

[limber hull]

nah i absolutely do not prefer Spiro

you want a perfect diet? You had to engage in the most repetitive, boring gameplay ever

straight up not allowed to explore because of dietary requirements (and because carbs were absolutely the best diet to choose, oftentimes herbivores stayed in one place and could never ever move no matter what)

like triangle gamepaly ain't it for me, I need to be allowed variety for me to want to play something

could not STAND spiro for many reasons, and herbivore gameplay was a really big one

[dapper leaf]

You had to go across a large majority of the map had you wanted to gain the benefits from a perfect diet as a Herbivore, many players quite happily did so.

But this new method affects a lot more then it fixes, nesting with Herbs is now a bigger pain, the same can be said for Carnivores and the AI.

Then there is the problem with Carnivore migration zones, a lot of the time they have no players let alone AI and that's on 100/200 player servers.

Deinos/Crocs still rain supreme in large or frequented water ways, Pteras ignore everything all togther, all other dinos suffer a constant walking simulator around the map.

[tame jetty]

@dense heath I've suggested this kind of map for years. It would fit the isle perfectly and be very useful for players. It wouldn't ruin anything about the game, and if a person wouldn't want to use it, then simply they wouldn't click the button to get it up on the screen. Even though it's foggy anyway until its discovered, i dont get why so many people negative to it. #general-feedback message

[warped remnant]

There are no debuffs for bad diet anymore just buffs for having a good one. Technically the same thing but still relevant. And dw with patrol zone you can easily get enough diet to nest without having to move.

[dapper leaf]

Will food spawn near or at the resting site though? otherwise depending on the amount of babies you will lose diet on the 2nd or 3rd feed.

[desert arch]

Patrol zones usually spawn right on top of you, or at the very least, incredibly close

And even then, since patrol zones expand your diet list significantly, you can probably get nutrients outside of them too

[vernal jacinth]

@serene vessel #general-feedback isn’t a channel for help with that. It’s meant for feedback on the game. You can ask for assistance in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧

[serene vessel]

thank

im sorry

[junior nymph]

my brain just hit a click.... HES A RAPTOR PLAYER AND HE WATCHED NICKBOAYS VIDEO LMAO

[crimson bluff]

im holding a chicken in my mouth with herrera on hordetest and when i jump the herrera does attack sound. is it intended or bug?

[woven bane]

@river idol omni has it very easy lol

just run through a forest and use your unmatched agility to dodge

[river idol]

tracking and its not hard to see where you dodged to, ntm carnos insane hitbox and dilo gets clones on you with 2 hits.

[woven bane]

omni has good enough stamina to get away

[river idol]

actually it doesnt

[woven bane]

2m and 45 seconds, that’s exceptional

you can also just jump over a river

[frank tapir]

#general-feedback message @fickle cave I don't see what could be asked other than rules clarifications and an entire channel for that seems unnecessary

[gentle horizon]

reporting hackers, when ppl get stuck

could use it for lots of things

[frank tapir]

you should @ a mod when you're reporting a hacker, and same for unstuck really but most of the time you don't need a mod for that

[icy lion]

Pings should be involved when reporting though

[gentle horizon]

yes agreed but having 1 chat for it without any discussion would make it ALOT easier for you to find the messages

[icy lion]

That's what the inbox is for, works pretty well

You just get a list of all of the messages that pinged you

[gentle horizon]

inbox?

the search in the top right?

[icy lion]

The box in the very top row on the right side

[gentle horizon]

yeah

[icy lion]

On mobile it's just the notifications tab

[gentle horizon]

you could set up the channel so that only their post can be seen by them tho, means you can post locations of hackers

[icy lion]

There's ways for non-admins to work around that

[trail bronze]

#general-feedback message

@steady orchid so in Your opinion they should remove all cool mutations. It's on You what mutation You choose, so if You can't choose properly and balance Your dino - it's clearly You're weaker than others :v Very bad idea tbh

[steady orchid]

theres like 30 total mutations and everyones picks the same 3 mutations cuz theres literaly no reason to pick the others due to being slower, weaker and overall worse at pvp if you dont pick the meta mutations

i understand if epidermal and congenatil stay, but speed mutations make you effectively worse than your same species if they pick them and gastro and tactile are just to op

[trail bronze]

Won't agree. Some ppl prefer to fight all the time, and some prefer to sit in peace and nest so it's not like everyone's picking same set

[icy lion]

Then they can go to unofficials that have those mutations

[trail bronze]

And that's the risk of pickin "no pvp" mutations. And i think it's very cool. Cuz if nestin is ur priority, You're losing chance to pick pvp mutations. It's for something.

[normal steeple]

@barren zephyr the models look very similar? i'm pretty sure the skin/texturing is the only thing making the rex on the right appear more intimidating.

[trail bronze]

But there are official servers where ppl like to play, cuz they're "MAIN" servers. Not everyone likes to play with rules on community servers etc. Tbh I don't think devs will delete mutations they were working on XD

[barren zephyr]

Not to me, the snout looks different and the new rex body is more skinny which I dislike, the bottom of the snout of the new rex is too small

[steady orchid]

those fighting mutations force the people that doesnt want to, to pick them so anyone has an advantage at all cuz everyone has the same meta mutations, removing those and making people free to pick other survival muts will help you more in pvp and pve

[barren zephyr]

And in the videos it just doesn’t look ready at all which I get because its a work in progress but they said they are releasing it soon so I’m a bit worried about the final results

[normal steeple]

the one shown seems just about as muscular as the current one. only difference i'm seeing is the lack of actual texture since the screenshot is from a testing area and the poor lighting/angle. when it releases and people are able to actually see it in the environment then maybe a change will be warranted but u can't really judge from a screenshot of a stream/yt video.

[barren zephyr]

I’ve seen videos on it in the actual game, the adult rex honestly just looks like a sub-adult

[faint folio]

Honestly I'm comparing the two photos and it looks like the model itself is extremely similar in the head, but it seems like the idle/default animation of the head closed the mouth too far which is what's giving it that goofy look. It also seems like the brow ridge is a little different but that could be lighting and angle differences between the two

[hidden pilot]

new rex is bulkier tf??

[knotty burrow]

@barren zephyr its the same rex model

[rocky pewter]

i dunno, im all for derpy rex, nothing funnier then being suddenly chomped by a silly lookin thing

[knotty burrow]

it's literally the exact same rex

[hidden pilot]

It doesn't even look derpy what

[rocky pewter]

i was just taking the wording from the post in #general-feedback message

[sudden hinge]

Or those mutations are extremely unbalanced and shouldn’t have been added to begin with

[sudden hinge]

Most people have to pick the combat mutations to have a chance specifically cera teno and pachy due to how close they are in speed if they don’t have it they will get run down regardless. Not to mention combat perks that allow you to heal from eating or recover stamina from taking damage directly effect the balance of the game. They weren’t necessary before and removing them doesn’t effect your ability to pvp

[hidden pilot]

i gathered that

[dry falcon]

#general-feedback message
that’s not the official Rex. That’s some dude with the model in his own project

[knotty burrow]

It's the same model one just has a better scene posing and composition

[hidden pilot]

thank you I thought so but iwastn sure

ofc same model but different skin

which is the only real difference from legacy rex and evrima rex

other than evrima rex being a little fatter

[knotty burrow]

I think the "derpy" is coming from the weird angle, low res image and lack of scenery, and I don't think it has all it's texture maps it lacks any reflection

[hidden pilot]

yeah

rex is still terrifying, especially when you catch it in the right light and angle

[dry falcon]

All good

[pliant elm]

@brittle kiln As long as it doesn't get any nutrients like Cerato and Deino do, I agree.

[hidden pilot]

#general-feedback message All omni needs is no whites of its eyes

[queen mortar]

1,000x YES!

@midnight heath

[wispy jackal]

that looks sooo much better

[pliant elm]

It's so simple and so much better. I don't know why this hasn't been done yet

[scenic hollow]

#general-feedback message maybe making gastromic regen stam could be better, still good but not as bad as now. i think it would benefit PT especially

[west tiger]

i feel like that would be definitely a reasonable option. cause making the rex a natural canni would make it almost impossible to grow one

[junior nymph]

no it would make it super easy to grow one lol

you would think making a creature a canni would make its pop go down

it wouldnt

[west tiger]

not exactly. cause there will still be other rexes that will kill u just because they can as well as other carnivores until u get big enough to defend yourself.

[junior nymph]

that will still happen anyway

but with cannibals. Its free food and diet

meaning juvies can get easy growths

making it not a canni will make them starve therefor keeping their pop down

[west tiger]

yes but without it being naturally canni not as many people will attack you on sight

[junior nymph]

yes

then they starve to death its quite simple

it will also stop the megapacks

rexes will kill other rexes, not for food but for survival since there wont be enough food to keep alot of rexes fed

[west tiger]

either way rex is still gonna be a tough grow until you reach a certain size. same with trike. also learned that a solo fg trike has a really hard time keeping a cera off its backside. nearly died to one cause i couldnt spin around fast enough

[junior nymph]

cera OP lmao

[west tiger]

oh gurantee it

lol fr. but not for long. not with trike herds comin out

[junior nymph]

if that happens... Rex will be actually hard to grow

[west tiger]

lol yeh. im more excited for allo though

[junior nymph]

what will happen when all the trikes die? THE REXES STARVE you see..

[west tiger]

XD

[junior nymph]

I just dont want legacy repeat of everyone playing apexes cause they were stupid easy to grow

||that will still happen cause for some dumb reason they are adding dino AI||

[west tiger]

i dont think that will happen. lots of people have their favorite dinos to play. and yeh when rex and trike come out a lot of people will be playing them cause they're new (those who didnt test them on HT) But after a bit everything will return to normal i think (I hope XD)

[willow kiln]

the new rex looks so bad

comparitivly, on its own its not bad but for what we had its such a downgrade and i dont understand it

[willow kiln]

thats good though, the absolute last thing you need is an overpopulation of rexes haha

[sly moon]

hence rex shouldn't be cannibalistic

it would be cool if extreme food scarcity led rexes to be competitive and even territorial

[winter void]

We already Had teno AI during Gateway stresstest. Was a cool thing. But way too easy food for Sure.

[desert arch]

The teno ai that actually fought back though was an actual menace

It landed every single attack it did, and there were 0 openings

[junior nymph]

yeah

[winter void]

Ye those Infinite stam tenos xD remember one Standing against a rock Just claw everyone that tried and with our omni Pack we felt like it cant bleed Out 😄
But as you got used to them after 2-3 days it was pretty easy. (But thats a Case for everything tho).
Still was kinda sad they removed them 😦

[midnight heath]

Thank you!

[blissful tiger]

i kinda get the idea of putting cooldown on cera charge, bcs people dont even use normal bite anymore. cera combat rn is just spamming charge and running in circles

[wispy jackal]

plus its so loud and annoying to listen too

[flat onyx]

Agree

[sudden hinge]

@solid pecan honestly just upping the stam usage for charge bite would be fine theres already delays between bite attacks as it is

[normal shuttle]

@brittle kiln Cannibal paradox: you are helping isle cannibal playables rather than reducing their numbers

because big bad carni will be popular and it will have the big bad popular carni in its diet

also mirror matches tend to be so easy to win when you start

if deinos weren't cannibals, they would have practically gone extinct

and cera is partly a huge nuisance because of being a cannibal alongside many other factors

[urban flax]

Ok but can we talk about how ugly that image is?
It's AI-generated, right ?

[jovial vine]

You mean the image they used for Rex cannibalism?

[blissful tiger]

an additional roar would always be nice, even if it isn't for mating

[shy harbor]

Why does the Ceratosaurus' right-click bite animation feel so unnaturally fast?

[urban flax]

Yeah

[jovial vine]

It’s not AI-generated dw

Just a cool bit of art that’s been making the rounds recently

[willow kiln]

@flat onyx on your raptor comment respectfully it sounds like yall just need to get better

It’s definitely a difficult thing but once you learn how to position yourself during a group fight instead of everyone rushing to pounce instantly it’s never a problem. As raptor you have to take fights slow because you’re so fragile, rushing anything will get you bit or killed almost every time

[flat onyx]

I do understand but a lot of people don’t know how to play raptor perfectly or don’t even realise you can pounce each other and it’s hard to be coordinated with a bunch of strangers that can only communicate via chat.

[steady orchid]

i feel like most of the ❌ are just for the use of ai instead of what the suggestion says lol

[urban flax]

The suggestion is bad tho
Rex isn't even out yet, it doesn't need such a buff

[willow kiln]

All the more reason to play more and learn 😄. I agree it’s annoying when people do it to me but even then I’ve learned to pay attention to who’s jumpy and stay away from them. The games supposed to be hard I like the learning curve personally

[steady orchid]

wasnt the suggestion only to make him cannibal?

i might red another one

[urban flax]

Yes, that's a buff

[pliant elm]

@coarse spruce Are you asking if this can't come sooner or are you saying he shouldn't come too soon?

[steady orchid]

i dont see it like that tbh

[urban flax]

Cannibalism is an extra diet options, which makes the existence of a server full of that species only possible and sustainable

You know how to encourage rexes to kill each other while not allowing overpopulation ? Make them not cannibals so they need to compete over limited food or starve

[steady orchid]

imo they will just kill eachother more and with a reason now, grow faster than the other , rexes will be less likely to do groups

they also did that with carno when there was barely playables and it sligty worked on the overall fg carno poblation

[coarse spruce]

Can't come sooner, as in it's a really good change and I'm impatient

[barren jewel]

A lot of carnivorous species resort to cannibalism. Usually because of dire situations but it does happen. Plus some paleontologists believe the t Rex and a lot of other carnivorous dinosaurs were not a stranger to cannibalism. Things like crocodilians can cannibalize often because of their extremely powerful stomach acids that allow them to handle digesting bacteria and pathogens easily. I dont think it'd be too far of a stretch to say t rex's also have powerful stomach acids like that. Besides, getting a Rex to FG is gonna be hard enough that cannibalism might be the only way to survive sometimes.

[west tiger]

something someone suggested. Let the rex be able to eat its own kind but its wont get any nutrition from it. Like you wont get any debuffs from it but you wont gain any diet either. Its just food

[indigo gulch]

Then take the canni mutation

[barren jewel]

You cant just take the canni mutation you have to unlock it, obviously any carnivore can unlock the canni mutation, but we are talking about wether or not the Rex should be inherently canni.

[barren jewel]

I still kinda dont like that. Growing a Rex to fg is gonna be hard enough just because of how much a target youre gonna be and how long it takes to grow one. Plus its gonna get too big to sustain itself on boar and deer. Considering that there aren't a lot of big dinos in the game right now for a t Rex to prey on and keep its stomach full, it only seems right to make them cannibal.

[west tiger]

yes but making it canni will make it almost impossible to get one to FG. gotta remember how many toxic people are out there

[fading pecan]

Why is my suggestion getting deleted? @icy lion I didn’t ask for an eta. I asked for accurate information

[barren jewel]

They dont like when you call them out for not delivering on what they promise

[fading pecan]

Lmao I guess so. How sad

[barren jewel]

Apparently people have even gotten banned for it.

[fading pecan]

@barren jewel Yeah I’ve been muted for 1 week for asking the devs to let us know they are actually looking at our suggestions lol.

[icy lion]

You were muted for a week for spreading misinformation by saying they don't read any suggestions

Let's keep our facts straight

[fading pecan]

Lmao spreading misinformation?? Okeeey lol. I Said how I felt based on what the devs say in this discord. I said In here and in suggestions that the devs need to let us know that they read our suggestions because it feels like we are speaking into a void. Get your facts straight fam @icy lion

Freedom of speech don’t exist in this discord 😂

[limber hull]

i mean... yea you're right, it doesn't tend to exist in basically any community discord lol

not really a revelation

[fading pecan]

I mean I’m in a handful of video game discords and they take constructive criticism fairly well. Just the isle isn’t one of those communities

[limber hull]

i mean i actually havent seen much constructive criticism from this community lmao

[urban flax]

The exact opposite happened lol
Back when carno was a cannibal all you'd see was carno megapacks running around

[limber hull]

i think it was quite literally referred to as the "carnopocalypse" at the time lmao

like it was so easy to grow a carno and they were so dominant that you could just spam carnos and eat the other 99 carnos around the map if you ever got hungry

[urban flax]

It's funny to me when people say "I was banned for saying the truth" or "I was muted for speaking my opinion" and when you read the message that got them banned it's always a stream of slurs, death threats and misinformation

[fading pecan]

Well that definitely wasn’t the case with me lol. I didn’t screenshot what I said cuz I didn’t think the admins would delete it. But I was only honest and I wasn’t disrespectful. I love this game and I only wanted to see the devs respond to our feedback

[urban flax]

If you say so

[fading pecan]

Too bad we can’t see cuz a salty admin deleted it 🤷

[thick wolf]

Hi everyone

Do y’all think Hypsi should be able to hop around like a Squirrell on trees and be able to climb horizontally

[junior nymph]

@simple phoenix /unstuck

[hidden pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[jade robin]

does anyone know if the bug where you get stuck when eating bushes is fixed in HT

[gentle horizon]

@shrewd whale what servers you play on?

@flat onyx what servers you play on?

EU damn thats far from me, was going to say us AU players are coming together to start our own server, ping might not be too bad for you, i know someone in i think usa was getting 100 ping

[indigo gulch]

Btw why did you send me a random friend request🤨 did you just go down a list or something

[gentle horizon]

I was going to lmao. Sorry i thought youd be interested in joining us. A lot of us have the same thoughts and the post i sent a few days ago are those ppl. Did u want an inv?

[vernal jacinth]

<@&933486433342222376>

[indigo gulch]

I’m from eu as well so I’ll pass😅

[gentle horizon]

Damn well ty for the support you showed us anyway. We all appreciate it. Shame they wont change anything

[steady orchid]

dunno about that, its popblation looked always the same until they added cerato, only difference was growing faster and being instantly targeted by adult carnos

only carnoapocalypse i experienced was when utah rock was a thing and there was only carnos and utahs fighting eachother i dont remember if they were canni at that time

[urban flax]

Carno was overpopulated for the whole time it was a cannibal
Then its population lowered drastically when cannibalism was taken away from it

[hidden pilot]

carnos were running rampent cus they were just living off of each other like a damn skull island food chain

[urban flax]

@vital sundial Tyrannosaurus imperator and tyrannosaurus regina are a meme

Also random stat changes are ew

[vital sundial]

just for example

[urban flax]

Having variations of dinos with random, different stats is a balancing heelscape we don't need

[vital sundial]

you can counter all of that with the mutations YOU choose

[urban flax]

No you can't
If another rex bites harder than me and picks one of the stupid meta mutations, he's gonna bite harder no matter what

Also making mutations even more meta is absolutely terrible

Meta mutations are already one of the worst things in this game

You're just encouraging players to suicide repeatedly until they get the "better" variation

Because there WILL be a better variation

[vital sundial]

All this was just the beginning of an idea... there might be something to do or nothing will ever happen

[urban flax]

There is definitely something to do
Just not that or anything that ressembles it

[vital sundial]

but hey after that it doesn't involve changing the stats between variations but more for a physical appearance because for the moment there is not a wide choice of skin customization

[urban flax]

Customization options is a different thing
Idk why you'd want to make them random tho

[vital sundial]

I said it could be random or not and choosing what you want could be a plus for skin customization

[urban flax]

#general-feedback message
I got the mr carno woke canni seal of approval

This means the suggestion is good

[hidden pilot]

[shrewd whale]

SA

[gentle horizon]

im not sure what your ping will be like but there are many others with the same perspective on gameplay that have joined. if youd like to come check it out youre most welcome to just add me on discord

[icy lion]

Please read rule 9 #rules-and-info

[gentle horizon]

im talking with chiiri now hold on first

done

[steady orchid]

@long edge stego is already one of the dinos with the most atack speed in the game with its powerswing making kentrosaurus atack even faster would make it have literaly no openings with a noticeable lower stamina usage than stego

[long edge]

I don't agree with stego having an instant and spammable attack to begin with really. I don't like that for stego.
I'm not proposing kentro have the same problem and that they should share attacks, but moreso that kentro should be able to attack while moving with the same speed as maybe teno kick.

[steady orchid]

yh i agree with that, thats why i didnt disagree with that suggestion at all but stego should be tweaked a bit so kentro will highlight as the agile counterpart

imo

[long edge]

Yeah stego is in a bit of a weird spot and that'll make kentro be in a bit of a weirder spot too I think. I kind of wish stego had to alternate between power swings/normal swings to get the maximum effect instead of just spamming the power swing. Maybe a cooldown on power swing, but alt swing can be activated more quickly? So people still die if they get knocked down.

[steady orchid]

honestly it would be better if the power swing were the slow atacks but powerfull and alt atacks their rapid atacks

maybe reducing the cooldown of each powerswing but making it more punisheable if they hit you with it

[pliant elm]

Stego has all this damage capacity to survive against Rex and other Apex

[swift raft]

Am tripping or does ‘Horde Test’ Troodon spawn in bigger in size than what it does in public branch?

[grave iris]

trippin

[native garnet]

yes and it can also run away from them or run them down if it wants to

[pliant elm]

He can't. Rex and probably the other Apex Carnivores will have Ambush, so he needs that damage and speed atack if he wants to survive

[native garnet]

yes ambush requiring them to be close to it first

[pliant elm]

What is not difficult

[limber hull]

it doesn't, no

ambush can be activated at any time, its not even really ambush anymore

its just a faster sprint

stego cant run away from that

[latent olive]

depending on how much stamina it burns, it might not have to run

[mellow hedge]

needs way more ai spawns near spawn points running just to die is a waste of time

should be on timers like day Z loot

[urban flax]

@subtle prism 3-call is a thing

[untold geyser]

chat don't tell em

[limber hull]

sorry why does the dinosaur have access to sonar technology

#general-feedback message

[indigo gulch]

not only that, gl ever running away from something

[pastel grove]

🤡

[limber hull]

wha

[open sluice]

To be fair tho this can just be a sonar upgrade to help find friends since it’s such a hassle

[limber hull]

wait hold on did they just clown emote me and leave the server wtf

[limber hull]

you do know you can 1 call to broadcast your location to friends

right?

[urban flax]

And remove the concept of hiding from the game

[open sluice]

To be fair it just makes it more convenient especially if you have friends who are hard of hearing and or deaf too

[urban flax]

Being able to isolate packmembers and running the risk of losing your teammates is part of the game too

[limber hull]

by all means, im literally hard of hearing and i dont have that issue

when you broadcast, the nametag above your head increases in range significantly, allowing friends in your group to find you easily

and next update we're getting spawn codes, which allows you to easily spawn with friends without the hassle of finding each other

[open sluice]

Oh wait cool well that’s solves my concerns then thx

[limber hull]

oh sick look at that

[indigo gulch]

yes xD

F you in particular I guess XD

[limber hull]

thats infinitely funny

[shadow zealot]

Trust me bro u would be able to tell if someone's got a range hack or bad ping, loollll
#general-feedback message

never have i ever seen such a thing be uttered before. this sort of practice is extremely unheard of in every type of game

[lapis timber]

The fact the isle makes it easier to join the discord and make a suggestion to change a mechanic than explain to players that 1 call increases range should be a glowing issue lol

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

its not even really a nerf lol

[subtle prism]

said display mate

[urban flax]

What's the difference ?

[junior nymph]

yeah lmao\

[sudden hinge]

I couldn’t find it in the patch notes but did they change how you get sepsis to only rotten corpses like they were doing in HT

[junior nymph]

yeah. But you can chunk still

you also just get a bile buff

[sudden hinge]

Bile buff? What do you mean does sepsis do more now

[junior nymph]

and all the other nerfs can just be avoided and the buffs are like really dumb and broken

[junior nymph]

yeah

[sudden hinge]

Like do you puke people more easily or are the debuffs from bile more taxing?

And yeah the stamina drain on charge bite should be more

[junior nymph]

the nerfs are useless

[sudden hinge]

So like the effects of sepsis aren’t that bad? I’m confused

[scarlet ocean]

Just so you and people know, it’s removed or 100% bugged 😭 😭 despite the live patch notes

[sudden hinge]

Rip

[scarlet ocean]

So all cera got as a “nerf” was 10% speed loss

[sudden hinge]

Nah it needs the stamina drain to be a bit more on it not too much more but enough

I mean atleast ceras won’t be able to chase and charge bite tenos and pachies now haha 😂

[scarlet ocean]

Yeah 💔 but why did live branch release without that crucial part being fixed, sobbing

[scarlet ocean]

True that

[desert arch]

Cant wait till people realise cera is able to solo trikes so we dont even need rex

[scarlet ocean]

Oh yeah-

[sudden hinge]

This isn’t too out of the norm when it comes to updates I’d say

Cera shouldn’t do that at all

Killing adult trikes is wild to me

[desert arch]

As long as you can get behind them, its surprisingly doable

[sudden hinge]

Could it also be because of the stupid combat mutations tho?

[scarlet ocean]

I don’t like to expect disappointment- but the rest of the update is pretty damn good

[desert arch]

Without terrain, theres basically nothing the trike can do to get a cera off of its rear

[sudden hinge]

That’s good at least we got some changes to how cera functions too hopefully in a patch they add those changes

[desert arch]

At least the ones I fought acted that way...

[sudden hinge]

Ugh that’s unfortunate they need to make alt attacks for larger herbivores a bit faster and you can recover faster to defend yourself

Not stego tho

Stego is strong enough

[scarlet ocean]

A fg cera on 100% stam, standing, walking or trotting, holding chargebite for 20 seconds, only gets you to 99.5% stamina

A fg cera on 100% stam, sprinting, holding charge bite for 20 seconds gets you to 81-82% stamina
BUT,
A fg cera on 100% stam, sprinting for 20 seconds WITHOUT holding charge bite, ALSO gets you to 81-82 aswell

This was also the test I did

[sudden hinge]

I remember reading this

[scarlet ocean]

Ooh! I thought barely anyone saw it 😭 it’s so important to get seen

[sudden hinge]

Yeah that shouldn’t be the case tho I don’t think the drain should be crazy since you should only be using charge bite in around a body now

Like it should be noticeable but used defensively

Instead of how people run down now

[scarlet ocean]

Yeah it’s a fine line of balance- drain shouldn’t be affected when body buff is in place, but drains when not body buff.. I wonder if they can program that, have stam drain only when certain conditions are met

[sudden hinge]

Tho with the slower speed added to using charge bite ceras will be more apt to hunting slower prey which is interesting

[sudden hinge]

Ooo I like that

[sudden hinge]

It’d probably be buggy but they programmed body buff so I’m sure they could do it

[scarlet ocean]

Mhm

[scarlet ocean]

Sort of, if you want to fight a cera as something stronger or faster, you have to then deal with a spam charge biting, 1.25X CC resistance cera 😭

150 per bite isn’t even that bad, that’s carno dmg too- why 300+ dmg man..

[sudden hinge]

My only worry is tho that multiplier is nice I don’t think it’ll really discourage allos from just merking them haha

[scarlet ocean]

Oh, yeah 💀

I mean I figure cera just runs, unless there’s 2 ceras

It has to be faster than allo for sure

[sudden hinge]

300 I think is fine on charge bite due to how slow it is in comparison to carno maybe a bit less because carno bites for 175 right

[scarlet ocean]

Carno bites for 150 too 💔

And fair enough

[desert arch]

345 dmg cera charged bite vs 150 dmg on carnos bite and 125dmg on a stun charge

[sudden hinge]

Wait ceras charge bite is more than 300 now?

[desert arch]

175dmg is for the alt attack on both

[sudden hinge]

I thought it was just 300

[desert arch]

always was

[sudden hinge]

Oh I didn’t know that was the case it shouldn’t be that high

275 I think is fine

[scarlet ocean]

Have you heard ceras who get up to 450 dmg per changebite 💀 ? It’s insane

Min maxing damage muts

[desert arch]

Cera is out there casually dealing as much dmg as 3+ ton herbivores

[sudden hinge]

Is that when they hit a head? Or from getting dumb attack mutations?

[pliant elm]

@brazen berry This can only be bait

[sudden hinge]

Yeah nah it shouldn’t do as much as dibble or trike in that regard

275 is more than enough or 250 even

[brazen berry]

mate just accept the dibbles are crazy

a teno can try an 1v1 with a cera

herbis should hunt carnis

herbis are broken

[sudden hinge]

Teno and cera is a pretty close fight if it’s 1v1

As it should be honestly

[pliant elm]

Are you really comparing the 1.3t scavenger to the Herb that will fight Allos?

[brazen berry]

dibble- cc, bleed,3 tons of hp, can run as much as an cera, wast almost 0 stam

[sudden hinge]

And dibble out weighs cera by a ton

[scarlet ocean]

Yet cera is deemed the most op creature in Evrima currently- it soloes trike, Maia, teno, dibble-

[sudden hinge]

It can’t run faster than cera tho so just disengage

[scarlet ocean]

Along with dilo ofc

[sudden hinge]

Dilo ircs me so much

[brazen berry]

yes can 1v1 the dibble if he is lagging, or the worst player ever existing

[sudden hinge]

I don’t like dying due to things I can’t even stop

Like at least with cera you are only fighting the ones in front of you

[scarlet ocean]

Watch people fight on norden free Admin, there’s some REALLY skilled cerato there, a cera has no place even soloing a teno 💀 but it solos trike effortlessly- (a 9Ton beast)

[pliant elm]

Dibble was nerfed in the hordtest, now he can't use his normal attack when running sideways in sparring, only his ability, which leaves him very vulnerable.

[sudden hinge]

Honestly a dibble should be terrifying for solo and duo ceras 3 or 4 should be necessary to take one out for proper balance imo

[brazen berry]

if the herbis are bad u cant complain

isnt fair

[scarlet ocean]

But a good cera vs a good herbi, the cera wins anyways

There isn’t a skillgap, cera steamrolls

[sudden hinge]

Eh I disagree the agility is so even that’s a solid 50/50 and the size difference isn’t enough for it not to be pretty even imo

[brazen berry]

idk what contry u live man

aint no way a cera can 1v1 a dibble

only if the dibble is 300 ping

[sudden hinge]

Cera shouldn’t steam roll anything dibble size an up for sure hell even 2-2.5 tons should be too much for one cera to take on unless its already hurt or vulnerable

[scarlet ocean]

Oh yes it can- and they do, regularly

[brazen berry]

u are delusional

[warped remnant]

And after first vomit you just gotta wait 40 secs get a free hit and repeat

[brazen berry]

show me a clip send on private

[warped remnant]

Literally no counter play

[desert arch]

you dont even need that

[sudden hinge]

I will say this tho if you play on servers that take out all of the combat perks Cera isn’t as oppressive

The healing from eating and speed mutations really help a lot in making cera a menace

[warped remnant]

True it just means it’s doable even if you aren’t good on cera

[desert arch]

Hold on, am I allowed to post youtibe videos if its related to the discussion?

[brazen berry]

im waitting to some1 to send me a clip of a cera 1v1 a dibble

[desert arch]

Idk if its considered a grey area in self advertising if its my own public video

[scarlet ocean]

I’m not gonna put energy into a person who thinks cera needs a BUFF- out of all Evrima creatures.
But have you ever been on a free admin server or watched famous cera main YouTubers fight on YouTube videos 💀

[sudden hinge]

Cera needs the stam nerfs for charge bite these changes are good tho im a bit iffy on sepsis coming from only rotting corpses

[desert arch]

https://youtu.be/4ky4AXSVJNY (Ill just delete it if it happens to be against some rules)

The fact a single cera can even attempt this is just insanity

And the fact it can actually win is even more so

[warped remnant]

Je it can’t be this hard to hit and also be able to fight for so long.

[brazen berry]

that trike is the work thing ever

[bronze niche]

@quartz meteor its for suggestions they really like, for example the gobbler carno idea

[sudden hinge]

I mean it’s not fast cera definitely needs the stam nerfs to charge bite but it’s stamina is definitely needed with the rest of the predatory roster being faster

[bronze niche]

theres like 1 in every 80 suggestions they probably consider choosing

[brazen berry]

why will he choose to fight on the open, ofcourse the cera wins

[desert arch]

Bro what 😭 🙏

[brazen berry]

ceratopsians need to fight in closer areas, soo the only thing that show is his head

[warped remnant]

The problem is not its speed. Dilo is easier to hit than cera even tho it’s twice the weight almost

[indigo gulch]

Brother is moving the goalpost and going “why didn’t you score bro?”

[desert arch]

That trike grew for 12+ hours just to die to a 2 hour grow cera thats almost 1/10th of its weight

[brazen berry]

skill issue

thats a skill gap not dino gap

[indigo gulch]

No THIS is a skill issue

[scarlet ocean]

No dinosaur should be viable only when it uses terrain-

It should all be tested in a plain old field, every single one

[brazen berry]

i win on a 1v1 with a teno with cera np, the point of him trying to 1v1 is the crazy point

[warped remnant]

I can’t tell if this is serious

[desert arch]

I think you just want to have early access to rex atp

[brazen berry]

soo u tell me the only enviorment in the isle its plains????

[desert arch]

Which is fair, I want it too, but like...

[brazen berry]

and what, when the trex realese u will cry??

cause he will be "op" cause he is the apex?

[warped remnant]

No bc people will actually have to work to grow one

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cannot-ragebait-me-heart-twitter-reaction-gif-cat-gif-16396486465647525728

[brazen berry]

https://tenor.com/view/ram-sam-sam-sturdy-dance-ram-sam-sam-ram-sam-sam-guli-guli-guli-guli-guli-gif-7628879204419725043

[desert arch]

Anyways I wish everyone here to have a nice day, I aint arguing about this no more lmao

[brazen berry]

thx for letting me now u have no arguments have a nice day!

[bronze niche]

its probably gonna need like 8 fg trikes to grow and thats not counting that the corpses infront of it dont spoil

[indigo gulch]

How is it that, when teno wins, it’s broken, but if cera wins it’s a skill issue on the herbi?

[warped remnant]

Try actually reply to any of them and ppl might bother

[scarlet ocean]

Me when his entire post gets downvoted and there’s hundreds of videos on YouTube about cerato Rex:

What a good day to be alive-

[indigo gulch]

People nowadays don’t know what a debate is, only “hurdurr I won cuse you didnt say anything after I didn’t react to your arguments”

[brazen berry]

wdym?

[indigo gulch]

Like no duh dude, I could show you actual data and you’d still not change your tone

[brazen berry]

yes basicly i presnet all argument needed, when he reach out of them i won

[brazen berry]

send me

[indigo gulch]

That’s not how it works bro😭

[indigo gulch]

It was an example

[brazen berry]

send me a clip, where a dibble is on a cornor, and a cera kill him

[indigo gulch]

Or is an example too strange?

[warped remnant]

You didn’t gave any reasonable response to people saying the growth time and difficulty should dictate the power of the Dino. And cera gets a lot of power for little growth and difficulty

[indigo gulch]

^

[brazen berry]

its a skilled match, a dibble that know how to play dibble and a cera that know how to play cera

not a bad trike fighting a good cera, i want to see a fair match

[indigo gulch]

One of them having a severely longer growth so it should be harder to kill

[brazen berry]

this is the only good argument that i saw, and even if the trike gets near a wall, the cera cant do nothing

[urban flax]

A bad trike shoud still win against a good cera
The difference in size and power is too great

[brazen berry]

whgat????

[indigo gulch]

Yes

[urban flax]

Imagine being a goddamn apex and being forced to run to a wall and cower in fear when a single cera comes around

[brazen berry]

the trike is less agily, its an big herbi, what u want a trike doing a 360 flip?

[indigo gulch]

Because time investment

[urban flax]

No, just kill the cera

[indigo gulch]

Who the heck mentioned a 360 flip?

Aight time to eat dinner

[brazen berry]

that how nature works, when a group of trike irl fought a carni, its belived they used the head as shield, protecting their back, not charging like dumass dogd

[indigo gulch]

I’ll see if you’ve made progress later

[brazen berry]

u want to turn a herbi into a carni man

[warped remnant]

Yeah and a solo trike should only have to even bother finding better terrain against a worthy enemy like Rex. Herbis are and will be hard to contest for a while but making a small to mid tier carni apex lvl strong isnt a good solution

[tame jetty]

@torn plinth I agree. Many things looks much worse now in this build.

Also, the double click trash isn't it.. should be reverted or made customizable in settings, I cant even defend my Dibble properly in fight anymore, and now map is even more ugly ti look on

[urban flax]

How nature worked is that trike was a match against a rex
In nature a cera wouldn't have dared to as much as look in the direction of a healthy adult trike
Even a group of them