general-feedback-discussion

[sudden otter]

no i was being serious on that one actually

[ancient kestrel]

Omni is literally 4th fastest playble in game lol (terrestrial)

It's not by a lot slower than dilo

[urban cypress]

ugh

[ancient kestrel]

Anyway point is that omin have lot of tools to kill targeted prey. it's by far the most well armed predator in the game currently

(mechanically)

[urban cypress]

What? omni is the weakest in the game

[ancient kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[desert arch]

[ancient kestrel]

@normal shuttle where is your victim card meme? Please pull it out

[desert arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102619485334143006/1320058359168106526/omni_is_trash_fr_A_Clipchamppel_keszult.mp4?ex=67de35e6&is=67dce466&hm=028e0750e6ef21a54eb02655fc1b8aa89681c33ca4047c5c4ae8243a1eb8853f&
Omni is trash fr fr (none of us were fully grown)

[urban cypress]

Omni is good in packs

[ancient kestrel]

it's good even solo lol

[urban cypress]

its not

[ancient kestrel]

2 words: bleed pounce

[urban cypress]

solo omni vs solo dino
omni vs carno = 2 body shots, make it 4/6 if just kissing the tail, carno can just outrun turn around and kiss it on his forehead
omni vs cera = cera wins easy
omni vs stego = stego wins without raising tail
omni vs gali = gali just outruns, turns around headkick so omni can't pin
omni vs teno = teno will just tease the omni
omni vs dilo = dilo can just spam bite to stun

etc

2 words: omni weak

[frank tapir]

fg omni doesn't latch galli, it pins it

[urban cypress]

my bad

#general-feedback message
yes please!

[bleak kestrel]

What idea...

[bleak kestrel]

Bro you know anything about this game?

Like you get that solo omni is meant to attack something smillar size if alone only?

And if youre actually good at the game you can kill dilo as omni

But that because dilo IS ONLY 700KG

Rest of things you mentioned that can kill omni are like 1 ton +

Tell me what do you expect from solo omni to do?

Galli also isnt meant to be chased that why you do something like ambush or try to catch it offguard

[urban cypress]

Bro did you even read?

[bleak kestrel]

I mean you could chase galli if its bleeding i guess

[bleak kestrel]

Yeah but still whats your point?

You want omni to be able to fight 1v1 with something 2 times its weight at LEAST?

[urban cypress]

Just to clarify, omnis is only strong in a pack, solo its weak. The only strong thing the omni has is to pin dinos just like troodon can. The topic was that omni should be nerfed to 400kg, which makes the omni even weak in packs

[bleak kestrel]

I dont think it should be nerf but also not buffed

[urban cypress]

People rage type that pro omni players can kill everything. I KNOW, A pro player can kill a stego with a baby troodon

[bleak kestrel]

Its basicaly dino you need to know how to play as

[urban cypress]

Omni is good as it is, maybe a bit more health

[bleak kestrel]

Thats not true how troodon can solo stego 😭😭😭

[urban cypress]

Hold that. i once got killed by baby troodon. I was bleeding bad and had to sit down and everytime i sat down it jumped me. It was amazingly fun. I was fg cera

[bleak kestrel]

Nah leave it.

Its maybe not the fastest but makes up with agillty

[bleak kestrel]

You see you were heavy bleed and was a cera that is 1.3 ton

[urban cypress]

True. when fighting with a group who knows how to play it, its kinda OP.

[bleak kestrel]

FG troodon cant kill 6 ton dino.

[urban cypress]

I would vote for buff in health or fix the hitbox. when a carno is charging it's really hard to escape it as omni

[bleak kestrel]

Remeber when my whole pack of baby omnis was wiped with carno that just charged at us.

Friend from vc warned me thats why my omni could surivive to adult hood.

Only to get killed by carno (cuz im not really exprianced)

The isle is really punishing for beginners

You dont really know what to do sometimes

[urban cypress]

what

what makes you think im beginner

[bleak kestrel]

Im am one. im talking about my self dum dum

[urban cypress]

Ooh haha, you said "Remember". My main dinos are troodon, omni and dilo. Dilo not so much cuz of bugged clones. omni not so much either cuz of hitbox. Troodon is insanly strong. And with the upcoming update.... nightmare

[bleak kestrel]

Well ngl its kinda is cause you can regrow it fast

But one mistake and ur done

[normal shuttle]

Like BRUH!!!!?

Wdym weakest???

Have you played Ptera? Troodon? Hypsi? Dryo? Maia?

Omni is such a solid pick and the pin is super broken

[urban cypress]

Omni is perfect as it is. I know how hard it can be to survive as a newby and a pack of omnis is chasing you

[desert arch]

Every time someone says troodon is weak I lose 2 years of my total lifespan 💔

[normal shuttle]

HT troodon is good tho

But people who complain about Omni but not troodon baffle me

[urban cypress]

You are complaining about omni dude

[normal shuttle]

Complaining as in demanding buffs

And proclaiming it is super weak and unplayable

Omni is good even solo

I can achieve more with omni than I ever would with herra and also quicker

[urban cypress]

#general-feedback-discussion message

[desert arch]

Really wish it wouldnt be stunned for 4 seconds if getting scraped off though ngl.

But yeah its miles better in HT than live so yippie

[normal shuttle]

Yeah, and I kinda agree

I was mostly talking about what I saw above

Made me

[bleak kestrel]

Ngl i hope utah will be basicaly omni build for solo playstyle

[urban cypress]

You can;t deny that a solo omni is weak. No pro player crap. Just the stats.

On my server we have regular arena fights and the OMNI ALWAYS DIES

[normal shuttle]

Weak in what? It is crazy agile and its pounce can one shot pachies and dilos with pure damage

And wreck sub or even adult carnos with bleed

[bleak kestrel]

Wait what

How???

[normal shuttle]

If people don’t know how to use it that’s their problem but you really don’t need to spend 1000 hours playing Omni to get that

[urban cypress]

thats not true

[normal shuttle]

Pounce (not grapple or pin) deals 1000 damage if you waste your whole stam

[normal shuttle]

You can’t deny the numbers bro

[urban cypress]

you can;t one shot anything except troodon

[bleak kestrel]

It version of the grapple ?

[normal shuttle]

delusion

[urban cypress]

you are right, with one shot cheats you can kill everything in one shot

[normal shuttle]

Dunno about the grapple but I know it’s less damage but less stam cost. Pounce while a target can move however deals 1000 damage on full stam or it can bleed carnos if they keep trotting or running in like 2 minutes

Pounce from a single omni hurts

[urban cypress]

taking a dumb after eating KFC also hurts but it wont kill me

How is it possible to one shot a pachy as an omni

[normal shuttle]

Dude 😭 don’t be like that

Omni with bites alone can only one shot troodon and hypsi, yes. But its pouncing and pinning allow it to 100% kill: beipi, herra, galli, dryo, pachy +20-30 meters away from a tree

And then dilo is a maybe

[normal shuttle]

You literally can!!!!!!

[bleak kestrel]

I think i will read whole essay how omni is so bad or how omni is so good

[normal shuttle]

Latest update on live branch

[thick summit]

Omni is really good

[normal shuttle]

@urban cypress I also have a carno one

[bleak kestrel]

You know what one shot is?

[urban cypress]

one shot = one bite

[bleak kestrel]

Thanks mr obvious

[urban cypress]

before he posts a 2 hour long video of a omni vs carno where the canro is afk and the omni bleeds it out and calling it 1 shot.

[bleak kestrel]

This is diffrent version of pounce it wastes a lot of stam ngl and i think this could be quite risky to do while attacking two dinos

[normal shuttle]

Dude

It’s one button press. One attack and that guy is done.

Of course I’m gonna count it as a one shot

It’s so defunct to consider it otherwise

[urban cypress]

I agree, the omni can pounche kill a lot. I never screw with pachys

[icy lion]

"Different version"?

[bleak kestrel]

Its still not a one shot

[bleak kestrel]

When you pounce i know you can do do like diffrent type of pounce or something when on the target

[urban cypress]

wait wait wait. we discussed if the omni was weak or not. Not the one shot thing

Omni is weak solo, change my mind

[bleak kestrel]

Its not weak for god sake

[icy lion]

I think you're misunderstanding how pouncing works then

[bleak kestrel]

I dont mean diffrent variant of the attack where you jump on the traget

[icy lion]

You first tap RMB to launch yourself at the target. If you hit, you stay latched on them and do negligible damage and bleed. You can then hold LMB to deal raw damage (like in the video) or RMB to deal bleeding

It's not a different pounce, it's choosing to deal damage

[bleak kestrel]

It does diffrent thing so its diffrent variant of grapple

[icy lion]

Huh?

Grappling is when multiple omnis pin a larger target

[normal shuttle]

It’s not a one shot in the sense of one individual amount of damage depleting your health completely, but it is one action and I don’t see why it shouldn’t be considered a one shot that the dinosaur as a whole can do.

It’s like saying deino grab can’t one shot carnos or dilos

[bleak kestrel]

Oh my bad

[bleak kestrel]

Its still not a one shot cause pachy can sometimes just get you of his back or use a tree to get rid of you

[bleak kestrel]

Okey thanks but what if i hold none?

[icy lion]

You do effectively 0 damage and bleed

[frank tapir]

@silent karma they said in the patch notes in #announcements that the weight for sparring compatibility is a work in progress

[normal shuttle]

I mean. I was sort of explaining why that isn’t the case. Other than carno groups in the open and the occasional cannibal omnis, no one can reliably threaten you. Only 4 playables are faster than you and they all have less stamina or at the very least you break their ankles in all cases (dilo, galli, maia and carno). Not having many threats already is a positive

And then you have the pin which is the single most one sided and forgiving-to-miss ability in the entire game and your pounce only requires enough patience for you to wait your target to step into the open and one shot then if they’re below 800kg unless it’s a teno or cera.

[silent karma]

oh ok then I hope they will be able to spar when it's done

[normal shuttle]

Grapple really isn’t everything Omni has to be good

It’s a strong ability but it really doesn’t make enough of a difference to make omni strong or weak

If you’re below 450kg, you’re better off targeting any other 450kg creature (counting younger stages) than an omni. It is absurd how much pinning makes a difference.

424kg omni vs galli? Fight where both actually have to try in order to come out on top, galli stands a chance even if it is in favor of the omni.

426kg omni? Galli stands absolutely no chance at fighting now. It is forced to run away and never come anywhere close to the omni because it can end the fight taking no damage with one button press

[icy lion]

@real sapphire The official planned roster of dinos isn't being expanded on, but modding support will be added

[merry pine]

@silent karma bro I don't think 3 ton dibble should be able to spar with 9.5 ton trike

[urban cypress]

I lost interest in the discussion. Let's agree to keep the Omni as it is.

[real sapphire]

why its in other game and the isle devs take ages do add new dinos like most of the work could be done by moders

[icy lion]

Because the developers put a ton of effort into making the dinos

Most of the dinos have a minimum of 200 animations, beipi has over 400 and rex will have over 600

[bleak kestrel]

Guys did omni got any changes recently? Like im watching omni guide from like 5 months

[icy lion]

Not to mention the devs are creating novel mechanics for most of the new playables

[ancient kestrel]

Maia isn't faster than omni on HT

[normal shuttle]

Because there’s so much effort put into it. It’s not just like back then in legacy where they only had the movement animations, one attack button, the stats and model (and also the same rig for many of them)

[ancient kestrel]

Well there are some dinos which are lack any info if they are still planned or not like plateo, pachyrhino, carchar, corytho,

[icy lion]

I know, I said the list isn't being expanded on

[normal shuttle]

@mossy light

@real sapphire Imagine having all of these high quality playables with their own polished unique abilities and then having tarbosaurus as a more speedy rex with a little bit of extra bleed damage

And copying rex animations

[thick summit]

yeah-

[real sapphire]

would be bad but the devs do take a lot of time to make new dinos

[normal shuttle]

And we told you above why

[real sapphire]

ik

[normal shuttle]

Quality above quantity

One dinosaur every 2-4 months on average isn’t really that bad considering they all are completely different from each other

[real sapphire]

when was the last dino added?

[normal shuttle]

Maiasaura in like…October or November? And now we have had trike in HT for a while

And we got 6 dinosaurs in 2023

[thick summit]

Maia was in December

[normal shuttle]

Lol

[real sapphire]

i forgot that the maia was added

[normal shuttle]

Like seriously, it takes time. And also at least they are all special and unique

[real sapphire]

i remember the last dino what was added was dibble

im stupid

[normal shuttle]

Teno and dibble are completely different

PoT Barsboldia and Lambeosaurus play the same with different stats and model

Legacy Allo and Dilo play the exact same except for the model and stats

[thick summit]

nah

Lamb is a healer and bars is shant but weak

[limber hull]

it is, nothing changed with is speed

[ancient kestrel]

Oh. I seen someones screenshot that it is 44 km/h

Probably wasn't fg then

[urban cypress]

3-4 months is actually fast considering all the animations. I think the problem is that the devs make changes, put it all on a big pile and test it, fix it, debug it etc, making the progress really slow and long. If they would just focus on 1 thing at the time, test it, deploy it, we would have new content/fixes/updates every few months. Doesn;t make the progress faster but keeps the players happy

Like what #general-feedback message posted. In think everyone would be more satisfied if they split the updates/patches/fixes and update the game every month. even if it is a leaf looking weird being fixed.

[normal shuttle]

Agreed with that

If they didn’t change their mind so often it would have been very different

Although admittedly many bad ideas were removed with that

Like the original roadmap with sucho in update 3

[ancient kestrel]

Wild. Remember the year when were added like 0 playbles or only one?

[ancient kestrel]

Why such for update 3 was a bad idea btw?

(Yeah i know that it wasn't realistically ready)

[limber hull]

honestly i kinda wouldnt be mad if they did add sucho in U3 lol

[ancient kestrel]

I wonder why some dinos shown being worked for years still being not added. Like para was shown quite ofthen they do something with it but they still not releasing it

[limber hull]

prioritisation

[ancient kestrel]

Probably

Sometimes priortitsation is odd tho. Like Stego being released far had of any large land predator

[normal shuttle]

oh boy

you thought cera apocalypse was bad?

imagine if the cera now is larger than a maia

[ancient kestrel]

I mean... Stego was existing at this point, no?

[normal shuttle]

yeah, but why make it worse

we really didn't need some easy to grow, land capable giant predator overshadowing the entire carnivore roster

[woeful latch]

at first it meant to be ai, they just made it playable

[woeful latch]

animations are not everything, there’s a lot of stuff they need to work on before releasing playable, not to mention para before dibble or maia seems ehhh

also para will 100% use the same stance mechanic maia uses, so they needed to develop the mechanic before releasing

[bleak kestrel]

I think its bit unfair after galli kicks me i can just pounce it

It happened to me today and that galli regret instantly what he did its just kinda wierd i can do that like it doesnt seem fair that if galli gets kick in and i can instantly do abillity that its in most scenerios 100% death

I feel bad for that galli but also it was so fricking funny like he came after i just killed a troodon

[bleak kestrel]

Ik this mighty look crazy but hear me out....

[bleak kestrel]

Dang someone is here?

[hidden pilot]

Are you aware of this game's lore?

really not crazy

[bleak kestrel]

I mean yeah

But i would see some ppl disliking my idea

[hidden pilot]

Also we have enough horrible works of science already

the devs don't need more on their plate

[bleak kestrel]

I mean yeah

But what about this fella?

Sea puppy 😄

[hidden pilot]

ok.

[woeful latch]

is that tenontosaurus?

[hidden pilot]

yes.

[full pewter]

@drowsy nimbus Are you referring to the trike neck what was raised too high? That’s what I was saying should be removed and replaced with another one that was also shown in skin creator before release. Trike still has the broken neck isle right now

[drowsy nimbus]

Oh, the way you said it made it sound like it was a good thing

For the neck to be raised I mean

[full pewter]

I’ll look at how I said things but the raised neck is not what I want and it should be removed. In my post I show a pic of the other trike idle that has its neck in the correct position

[drowsy nimbus]

I see

Yeah it looks stupid when it's raised like that

[desert arch]

"omni is the WEAKEST dino in the game and needs urgent buffs!!!111!!11!"
meanwhile how the average omni plays:https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1344002521462738954/1352733131085447289/82A2B91.MP4?ex=67df1667&is=67ddc4e7&hm=5d6ab9a5bd63feac672fc17b237f3c7adcbc02e1591cba71a802f4f7c3da9245&

I hate randoms so much 😭

I eventually died because of his mistake, starvation finished me off

[normal shuttle]

Literally

Isle randoms on average feel TERRIBLE

But I just feel like punching a whole on my monitor when I am with omni randoms

They’re all clueless players who just started or just bad by nature

Dude, you didn’t read it in general

But I fended off 4 omnis in west rail as a single pachy

I escaped after body fracturing them, healed as I was missing half of my blood and was orange, and then when I returned I noticed two of them were still fractured and I proceeded to go on an Omni hunt

Somehow they couldn’t win and I just killed them one by one

Great players, considering omni slows down pachy below trot speed

[normal shuttle]

I also remember the total INSANITY of someone suggesting that they should buff omni to make up for bad randoms

[desert arch]

😭

[normal shuttle]

Like bruh imagine buffing something that is already good just so you can pull more weight, making organized groups unstoppable

Only because some people are bad with it

[desert arch]

Im so glad new people gravitate towards omni instead of troodon, Id go crazy if I had to deal with bad randoms on troodon too 🙏

[normal shuttle]

Lmao

Imagine a troo pinning you

I just hate randoms so much

Especially in the carnivore faction where all the new and/or bad players are

They all go for the roaring stompy big bad carnis and they just sabotage their teammates all the time or ignore basic orders in local chat

I go crazy and start team killing

[woven bane]

omni mains in particular are just a different breed

[normal shuttle]

Real

[bleak kestrel]

honestly if smillar dino doesnt notice you when ur omni its basicaly insta win.

i just killed dilo like 10 mins ago cause got him offguard he was smillar sized to me

and just pounced him

also crazy thing that i surivived carno bite while beign less than 100kg

i was lukcy enough my weight was jsut enough for me to tank it

fear in my eyes when to full grown speed demon were just looking straight at me when i was on a rock 😭

[trail obsidian]

Would love to see a debuff system added to prevent mix packing carnivores/herbivores.

Example: Stressed: Being in close proximity to an herbivore as a carnivore for a sustained period of time has caused you to become hypervigilant and erratic, reducing damage you deal. May increase the longer you are in close proximity with an herbivore. Attacking herbivore or moving away from it removes the debuff. Could either be a set damage decrease or a percentage.

It may be a silly idea but I wonder how it would work. Came up with it just now on the spot.

[woven bane]

systems like this can be very exploitable

[trail obsidian]

Yeah I was thinking that too. I'm just trying to figure out how one could actually make it work in an effective way. Maybe a stacking debuff or something. Idk

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message

why would diablo be able to spar a fully grown trike

that's like asking for FG diablos to spar fresh spawn diablos

[thick summit]

That wouldn't work

In order to prevent mixpacking it should be discouraged by the game's core mechanics

[placid anchor]

#general-feedback message
There are already incentives for nesting, please note.

[eternal moss]

thats from that roblox game, no?

[bleak kestrel]

what?

that jwe2 model dude

[bleak kestrel]

that sint msillar at all dude

[eternal moss]

rude ass response btw for no reason

[eternal moss]

sorry king, didn't mean to push ur buttons

[stark torrent]

Make learn to play servers, with tips enabled and easier food/water ai

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message i dont like this

a mutation to counter a specific playable?

i mean... i get it cera is annoying rn, but its not the right way to balance it

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message

more combat mutations are not what we need

it also just kills solo play

[wooden agate]

((the mutation that gives you more fracture health be like))

[normal shuttle]

another speed buff mut

imagine your buddy just hitting you to get it and run someone down

and a passive damage boost lol

[trail obsidian]

What are your thoughts on Hypsi? What would you do to change them?

I think they could be effective scouts or messengers, or even stealth agents. Their blind is also nifty too if you or your herd get into a sticky situation.

I'd love them to get some sort of call that can buff group members or warn them of a general direction where predators may be coming from.

I am gonna be playing the dino more tonight and tomorrow to see what I can do with them.

[wooden agate]

i just need climbing for it really

it doesn't need much else beyond spit rework and the climbing

[normal shuttle]

yup

that should do the trick

also in herds and mixpacks

dibble and hypsi is a very nasty combo

[woeful latch]

yeah lol i wanted to mention it too

[trail obsidian]

People just keep telling me, "Don't play it. It's useless." I'm taking real life knowledge of small creatures and figure it can be fun to be a scout or messenger. Haha.

[bleak kestrel]

wdym rude 💀

[normal shuttle]

@eternal moss why would that even be useful brug. Below that blood pool you're already at risk of bleeding out if you start running around

and also your stam takes forever to regen

I am very reluctant to accept a speed boost as well since that's the most important stat in the game, but I get it wouldn't be very exploitable here

more like counterproductive

[trail obsidian]

I think that could be good! Also burrowing to make temp sanctuaries for smol creatures?

[normal shuttle]

that's for dryo

...eventually...

[eternal moss]

bleed?

uh oopsy i meant health not bleed..

[wooden agate]

whats up with the speed/combat mutation suggestions today

the ones we have already fundementally break balance for creatures

[acoustic spruce]

@eternal moss that’s actually a good mutation idea

[trail obsidian]

Wait what 😮

[eternal moss]

if only the bot would add the check marks and x's😢

[eternal moss]

using dude at the end of every sentence infers that you're trying to be rude

[bleak kestrel]

What do you mean

So when i say "hey dude"

Im also rude?

[eternal moss]

no not like that, but the way you worded that first sentence was rude

[tardy talon]

😿 😢

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message

half of these really arent issues lol

"why are sanc mushrooms not sniffable?" they are bright red and incredibly easy to find. they however should have a faint glow

"oranges are giving 0.2%" yeah, if you're a large animal that shouldnt be getting much from one singular fruit anyway. eat the tree its connected to.

"tutorial is needed" UI change is coming and is confirmed to have tooltips pop up similarly to legacy

"sound inbalances" the loud footsteps are one of the ways to ensure you're not totally helpless when dealing with venom that blinds you lol. it helps you tell the difference between real dilos/fake dilos, alongside making sure troodons still have risk when hunting

"deino cant find fish reliably" frankly, deino shouldnt be able to live off fish in the first place once it reaches 1000-2000kg

"pteranodon stam/cerato vomitlock" pteranodon can stay in the air for 15+ minutes with proper stamina management. it takes 4 minutes to regen from 0-100 which you can also do while clinging to a tree. cerato physically can not vomit lock you due to taking damage in the vomit animation kicking you out of the animation alongside vomit having a 15~ cooldown or so

Tacos not being found is moreso player issue than game issue, if you hear them they are infact there. not to mention you can sniff them out now since they spawn holding a frog/rabbit

[frank tapir]

it's pretty difficult to eat the bush and not the fruit, and even then the bush doesn't give very much

[wooden agate]

the bush gives you far more than the fruit do

it also gives you far more diet

you can get a decent 10% from those plants in both your food and diet

(im trike and exlusively eating the bushes because once again, fruit are not meant for me)

fruit are actually pretty amazing for smaller creatures like pachy/galli/juvie tenos etc

[frank tapir]

food values or at least time it takes to eat needs to be adjusted, eating trees in a couple bites doesn't look or feel right

[wooden agate]

i agree the trees themselves should last a bit longer

but i dont think fruit is the issue with them

[mortal parrot]

@silent karma #general-feedback message Because it isn't really realistic, imagine trying to push something that is also pushing you that is also more than 3x your size

[wooden agate]

i also wish they would break and fall to the ground before despawning, kinda like ARK

[frank tapir]

I don't either, but they should make larger creatures ignore fruit when eating from a tree or bush if they would get very little diets

[wooden agate]

them popping out of existence is a bit jarring

[wooden agate]

i agree (and actually, i think theyve done something like that in HT. ive been able to walk up to orange plants and eat the tree before any fruits)

[frank tapir]

hopefully they have

[wooden agate]

it could also be trikes food hitbox maybe reaching further into the tree? idfk man lol, this game is weird

[wraith aspen]

buff ptera

[frank tapir]

they're reworking it

[wraith aspen]

thank god

[wraith aspen]

is there any eta on release?

[frank tapir]

should be in this hordetest

[wraith aspen]

oh like it’s up for testing now? i don’t even know about the hordetest

[frank tapir]

ptera can't be selected at the moment but we've been able to see some of the changes made when it was accidently available

[wooden agate]

its not in HT yet, its rework isnt ready

but the jist of its rework is it'll be able to fly more efficiently and faster with air currents and thermals, alongside getting some stuff to make it more of a terrerstrial threat to small animals

[wraith aspen]

oh shoooooootttttt

[wooden agate]

flight rework also may be planned? Filipe mentioned the flight systems needed work

[wraith aspen]

run itttt

[wooden agate]

dont expect Pteranodon to be taking on omnis or anything, but i would say its about to get better about getting the playables on its diet

alongside other juvies for organs

[wraith aspen]

if i had just 2x the damage i’d be happy

i feel like i can use th r stam as is for a long time and fly fast enough i just need a hair more damage

[wooden agate]

im glad we as a community have mostly moved past the 'pteranodon stam bad' complaint

[wraith aspen]

it’s really not it’s a skill issue

i fly forever i’ve been in like hour long fights

i actually killed a cera once that got hurt off a cliff on a like hour long fight

[bleak kestrel]

Bruh i cant say anything.

Like it didint sounded rude i just said that wasnt from a fricking roblox game

Like what the heck is your problem?

Im really confused how is this rude to you?

[eternal moss]

i use dude with people whenever im annoyed at them

and its just the way you worded ts

why not just say "no, it's the jwe2 model"

putting dude at the end just makes it seem like ur annoyed with me

[eternal moss]

and tf you mean you cant say anything? I never said you couldn't talk

[wooden agate]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-no-no-ew-gif-2451017436430959070

#general-feedback message

[limber hull]

doesnt help that all of these are disgustingly busted

[heady geode]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-side-eyeing-side-eye-dog-cringe-gif-14653496860358305350

[limber hull]

honestly tf are with these mutation suggestions today lmao

[limber hull]

was playing ptera with a friend yesterday who's less used to The Isle, and it's CRAZY to compare someone who CAN manage ptera stam and someone who can't

i was pretty much permanently above 50% stam the entire playthrough, whereas he would reach critical levels in the time it took me to lose like 14% of my stam

[heady geode]

lmao, "make it a hard choice, focused build" literally just names op busted stuff everyone will Have to take to survive, such a hard choice

[limber hull]

lmao true. just invalidates the other mutation choices further

why would you EVER go for a creative build now, when you can buff so many stats so easily

like 50% quieter on EVERYTHING??? And that's not even the worst of it

[heady geode]

more damage buffs too without any drawback, just what we need, just straigfht up 5% more powerful, and 5% faster all in one

[limber hull]

One mutation that COULD be used is "pack bond", except remove the damage buff. Add it that you do reduced damage to group members, and that's it.

Like 15% reduced damage to group members

A simple mutation with little meta application while still being benefitial

Yea, actually, a rework is

Empathetic Behaviours:
Deal and receive 15% less damage from group members

Can't be metagamed, is absolutely benefitial and overall a fine thing to spend a slot on

[thick ivy]

pretty useless in my opinion

[limber hull]

How?

People get friendly fired all the time

They complain about it A LOT

[thick ivy]

in general just dont hit eachother

[wooden agate]

would be insanely useful for omni/troodon's, alongside generally making group fights less of a risk

[thick ivy]

was about to say taht

its kinda only useful for groups

i mean troodon on omni

[wooden agate]

so is social behavior

and yet that is still a pretty cool mutation for relatively niche situations

[thick ivy]

i would rather use gastro hemania and take reduced damage from larger species

[limber hull]

yea, of course you would

[wooden agate]

because those are the meta options

[limber hull]

because they're disgustingly overpowered and need to be removed lol

why would you pick ANYTHING else?

[thick ivy]

the only overpoweredr one is gastro

i agree it should be removed

[wooden agate]

speed/combat mutations in general need to be reworked to not effect damage or speed lol

[thick ivy]

but buff the health regen cause cera adn carno health regen is terrible

[limber hull]

the reduced damage from larger species has to go. it's so objectively broken

its going to absolutely be disgusting when rex is out

[wooden agate]

i cant wait for rex to tank so many more hits from trikes due to that mutation, and then heal over 460HP per bite!

[thick ivy]

bro ur acting like u take 50 percent reduced damage

[limber hull]

15% is a disgustingly high amount lol

[wooden agate]

especially the larger you get

[limber hull]

that's the kind of number you get for an ability on a cooldown in a hero shooter, not a permanent buff in a survival game

[wooden agate]

rexes health if it has that mutation btw

[limber hull]

absolutely foul

[wooden agate]

when fighting trike

[thick ivy]

thats chill

[limber hull]

no???

that just objectively means trike gets screwd

that's not particularly fun

[wooden agate]

trike would have 1252 less health than rex in that instance lol

[thick ivy]

will trike still be able to stun the rex

[limber hull]

yes? that doesn't really matter tho

because the fight is balanced around that

[thick ivy]

u realise trike takes less damage fromt eh head right

and with sparring rex cant really get around trike

[wooden agate]

rex will also have sparring for that exact purpose wdym

[limber hull]

^

[thick ivy]

will rex have sparring

[wooden agate]

yes

flat out yes

[thick ivy]

who said that

[icy lion]

The developers

[thick ivy]

where

[wooden agate]

pretty much every single developer

[thick ivy]

was there a video

[wooden agate]

in pretty much every single devblog

[thick ivy]

i need to see that

[wooden agate]

for the past year

[icy lion]

#isle-discussion message

[thick ivy]

even woith rex sparring its goign to be hard to get around trike

[wooden agate]

yes

it is an apex herbivore

just as trike is going to have a hard time fending off a rex

except it will become alot easier when you can tank a few more hits and not worry about it lol

[thick ivy]

i dont mind if trike is stronger cause its my favourite dinosaur]'

[wooden agate]

except it wont be with that mutation, and since that mutation is meta

[thick ivy]

and the idea of nesting zones is good aswell

[limber hull]

the idea of "being smaller = more health" is so dumb tbh

[limber hull]

but it likely won't be if these mutations remain lol

[thick ivy]

true

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message
i adore the fact that someone can get angry at harmless feedback because they want worldbuilding instead of "add more dino" or "get rid of hacker" for the 500th time

the best part is the guys who would work on this worldbuilding have nothing to do with any of those things (more dinos/less hackers)

[heady geode]

good thing it only has one dinosaur who would have to fight that number, but still, yeesh, thats easily a few extra hits it can take from trike

[limber hull]

until they add more large herbivores

[heady geode]

thats a problem for future dev, today devs sure hate those guys!

[limber hull]

simple answer is just not keep the stupid combat muts

[idle cradle]

Ikr? some of the details I mentioned are things I see and deal with in my job irl. (plumbing drafting)
It would benefit the game to make the world feel more lived-in. Like people actually worked in the facilities and make us want to find out what happened to them.

[limber hull]

yea, i think it'd be awesome, but apparently if you aren't part of the echochamber, you aren't worth listening to lol

[idle cradle]

I also made a post about many of the dino animations and rigging needing a refinement pass.
Way too many broken pelvises in dinosaur games.

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message

i like how people were told about the NV bug constantly before it got fixed, saw that it got fixed, and when it came back, instantly went to complaining about it as if it was a feature instead

[versed geode]

XD ok loser its like that on the normal branch

[wooden agate]

its literally not. you can go into HT and turn on NV to see it make the game darker. hope this helps!

[versed geode]

im also just not really complaining about the darkness its about how greyscale and disgusting night vision looks
someone didnt read 🙂‍↔️

[limber hull]

brother that's because the NV is bugged lol

also the poorer your NV, the more greyscale it makes things. better NV sees in far more vibrant colour

[foggy field]

Its a stupid combat mutation that needs to be gone

[frank tapir]

all the combat mutations are stupid

[pastel notch]

@native wasp Is Trike night vision literally broken or just very bad intentionally?

[limber hull]

no its absolutely broken

NV in general is broken this patch

[pastel notch]

Ok good to know, currently Trike is feeling extremely unfun and unplayable to me because of how blind you are at night

[limber hull]

its not trike exclusive btw

[native wasp]

I wonder...

This is both at day time, somewhat afternoon. It was fixed last patch, but it's broken again

[pastel notch]

I've only been on trike so I haven't been able to say

[pastel notch]

I'm still generally a new player so it making daytime darker kinda makes sense to me

Not from a Sim standpoint more from a general gameplay standpoint

[native wasp]

Normally, turning night vision on during the day has almost no effect (unless you walk into a darker or shaded area)

[pastel notch]

Why is night vision not just automatic in gameplay?

[native wasp]

Would be nice if it was like that

[pastel notch]

I wasn't sure if that would make sense so I had to ask

[junior nymph]

because devs want the players to have the ability to choose

[proven fossil]

@versed geode just play a nocturnal playable like dilo or trodon if you wanna see Cristal clear at night. most herbivores do not have good night vision and thats by design

[pastel notch]

That's fair, I could also imagine it being annoying to implement

Like to work effectively and perfectly

[empty epoch]

1. That already happens, we know the devs do so (especially Filipe)
   we can see their reactions to things in the channel, they just don't need to announce everything they see and hear

2. Knowing they look at the channels (1.) we know they would (if the idea was any good) talk to other devs about such, but this suggestion is more so 'a given'

3. You are just describing the Devblog but with extra steps, to be fair.
   I know you want a dedicated channel of sort, but the communication of ideas from within the community (in terms of PR-wise) is mostly in isle-discussion (being the place they basically only talk in)

4. The guide stuff is fair, but I wouldn't want it to be a thing
   KNOWING the community... any bit of 'feedback' that the devs discuss that was inspired by community members does not mean it will 100% come into the game... so things would (and do) get out of hand by misinformation
   Of course the point of these videos would be to get rid of this misinfo but, again, no matter how good the CC is, we still see misinformation about stuff (even things just mentioned as 'could come') coming to the game

5. Just reminds me of the trello board, which was fine. But the problem with game design is that you can't for sure know that "X" mechanic/system WILL make the final cut for many reasons; like viability, actual ability to program such, and many other factors people far more qualified than me could talk about (Wavepoole...)

personally i do not agree with what you want
just because it was tried in early Islecord and it just becomes a QnA hot pot of annoyance
Practically what we see happen in isle discussion today but much more worse and annoying

@normal glade

[normal glade]

I understand all of these points. But the main idea is communication, consolidation and accessibility. Known bugs should be easily accessible to all players. I can see the devs' frustration when responding to some questions when they're in the general discussion channel, but this could be lessened so much just by consolidating some of their responses to FAQs (without CC's having to do it and possibly misconstrue the information).

We shouldn't have to navigate around the search function of the Discord server just to see Dev responses. I get that they don't want people taking their responses to questions as law, I really do, but just keeping things like this updated would really help with feedback.

Thanks for taking the time to respond to each point!

I almost forgot:

just because it was tried in early Islecord and it just becomes a QnA hot pot of annoyance. Practically what we see happen in isle discussion today but much more worse and annoying<<

For this part specifically, I don't think I was around for this when it happened as I only played like 50-100 hours on Legacy. But maybe it was just approached/handled the wrong way?

I dunno. I get that there are always toxic players and gif/meme spammers, but they could even do some dumb crap like have a "troll" role in discord lol. Something that says "this player repeatedly posts brainrot, take their statements with a grain of salt" 😂 (mostly joking here)

[dawn hound]

https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/1352495625333248102 @vital quarry Herrera isnt really a running animal but i think overall the stamina regen should be upscaled for every playable.

[bleak kestrel]

Im not you. Im am diffrent person if you use dude diffrent that doesnt mean i use word dude same as you do

[dawn hound]

why does the water turn every now and then into fanta

[woven bane]

it could do with a slightly better run time ngl

[normal shuttle]

cuz why not

[urban flax]

It's just like in the hit game Monster Hunter Wilds !

[normal shuttle]

when are we getting rathalos as a playable

[urban flax]

It's honestly more realistic than some of the incoming creatures

But actually I think it would be kinda weak
Too slow compared to Isle playables

[normal shuttle]

can fly and is tanky though

doesn't need to be fast

also fire

Tobi Kadachi tree apex >>> Titanoboa tree apex

[bleak kestrel]

I made nothosaurus suggestion:D

[limber hull]

The third angel poured out his bowl into the rivers and the springs of water, and they became blood.

-Revelation 16:4

[urban flax]

Um tobi-kadachi wouldn't be just a tree apex
It's like 15 tons at least
And insanely fast on top of climbing and flying

[normal shuttle]

real. New apex then ig

[thick summit]

Nah

Add valstrax instead

If it flies its theme should play

And everyone on the server just sees a red glow and hears its theme

Peak

[wooden agate]

dexter reference!

[limber hull]

idk what that is it was a bible reference

[placid anchor]

#general-feedback message
Why waste time on trifles? Ask the developers to make the game play itself instead of you and wining.

[bleak kestrel]

Could see sutuation where someone uses auto sprint and fall from a cliff lmao

[frank tapir]

@gilded aspen it's a bug

[bleak imp]

were do i go for helo

help

[frank tapir]

with what

[gilded aspen]

Gotcha

[frank tapir]

@narrow nova What about every other apex they're going to add, should they all be the same weight? Or should an overpowered mutation be changed?

or every other dinosaur for that matter, the larger they get the more 15% matters. If allo is 2.8 tonnes the mutation would give it more health than a dibble in any fight against a creature bigger than it

[normal shuttle]

@narrow nova do you realize that rex v trike matchup being drastically altered by one mutation isn't the only instance where this mutation makes a difference?

[urban flax]

Also even if rex and trike are made the same weight, the mutation would still work on a 98% grown subadult and grant them the extra 1300ish health

[frank tapir]

is that how it works? I've been confused about that for a while because of the mutations wording

[narrow nova]

indeed,my suggestion did't solve the problem

[urban flax]

The mutation applies to anything larger than your own dino's current weight
Even if the weight difference is only 1 kg

[frank tapir]

okay, thanks, they should probably change the wording from species to something else

[narrow nova]

many mutations are unreasonable,15% lower damage is not a bigger problem compare with something like eat to heal and raw damage give stamina.

[frank tapir]

they're all bad and should be removed or reworked

[bleak kestrel]

Ngl i wonder what carcar will do ingame

It basicaly feels like it would be just what giga is

[narrow nova]

indeed,some mutations are obviously stronger than others,almost must-chosen

[fickle cave]

#general-feedback message

I think a community manager would be fantastic. Even as a volunteer position, maybe make it open for the content creators.

They can get the latest information ahead of everyone else, in exchange for presenting this info in video format for all the players

[misty maple]

#general-feedback message
insted they could release some skins (or other visual things for customization) ppl could buy for a small amount of money to further support the development of the game. Everyone should be able to play every creature they release.

[bleak kestrel]

Ngl what would carcharo be?

Only thing i could see it be is basicaly trash eater like cera

Or just be able to eat rotten meat that would make his bleed more powerful or something

What dino you guys wish to be added btw?

[latent olive]

QUADRUPEDAL

[latent olive]

punchpacket has been community manager for years and years now

[foggy field]

Apex night hunter niche

With great speed

And lighter them most apexes

[pastel crane]

are they gonna fix the trike diet?

[thorn prism]

A night time niche apex would be neat fr

[bleak kestrel]

Idk ngl

[bleak kestrel]

Honestly this could work with sauropognax since its sorta scrapped genus

I mean it technically its sauropod now

Unless i dont know something

[foggy field]

It would make even the largest animals fear the night

[bleak kestrel]

I think trash eater would fit nicely for carcar

And tiger like pattern

[thorn prism]

Ong make carcar great again. And could scavenge more in day, but still be pretty formidable in its own right

[foggy field]

We could do both

[thorn prism]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[bleak kestrel]

But ngl i think it should be great at smelling stuff

I think making it gain buff depending on how much it rested at day time

The more you exhusted your dino been at day time the smaller the buff are or even you get none

[normal shuttle]

@covert tiger evrima dilo hatred

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-jesse-pinkman-metaphor-refantazio-gif-8287450970228896142

[covert tiger]

Oh I see u added another hated dino to your list lol

I don't even hate dilo
It could be such a cool dino with a lot of potential
But out of all the amazing dinos of quality currently in the game that the devs aspire to achieve (i.e. the best iteration out of any other dino game), dilo falls short so hard because of its ridiculous magic mechanic

[fickle cave]

#general-feedback message @orchid lion

Thats a really good amount of food for that size of kill on a Deino. Deinos have a really large stomach capacity, and 60% will last you a looong time. Its not like Troodon where a small organ fills you up, but you have to start hunting for your next meal almost immediately. Deino can go an hour before even needing to look for food.

[normal shuttle]

Same actually

But rn it is so frustratingly strong

So brutally unfun to deal with

[orchid lion]

for deino it takes around 1h30m to go from 100% to 0% hunger and this stego was bigger than the middle part of the 100% deino body where stomach is located so it still should just give more

[bleak kestrel]

I mean you have a point

Like catching stego like that its still hard ngl

It looks like its more than 4 tons

Technically 4 tons of food should fill up deino to max ngl

[dense gust]

Anyone can't play hordetest because of the high ping status? Over 100 players the ping goes crazy. It wasn't always like this

[ember chasm]

This may not be the right channel for that MindflayerDm, (also hello fello dnd enjoyer.)

[acoustic spruce]

@covert tiger you know that dilo clones are just an illusion right? The read damage is its venom, the clones are there to add some visual flair. Think of it like a Komodo dragon taking down a bull 4 times its size. It’s possible

[vernal jacinth]

@native bough that happens if you 1 call in the forest with like dilo or raptor too. Basically any Dino and you scare the birds off then it becomes silent

[covert tiger]

no, theyre not just an illusion
if they wanted to make it a simple damage over time mechanic, then thats exactly what it would be: damage ticks at fixed intervals
but all this time its been a buggy mess of 'you'll only take damage when the clone hits you and we are implementning a secondary mechanic to prevent that from happening if you manage to attack the clones in time before they hit you'
none of it ever made any sense
if venom is going to do damage and clones are an illusion, then just let venom do damage straight up, it should not be preventable, it should just tick without any clones hitting you or not hitting you, but it should be FAR weaker damage ticks than their current output
and thats also what makes it ridiculously unbalanced: how can something in this dinosaur video game be allowed to kill something several times bigger than it after just 1-2 bites and then several minutes of spectating while eating popcorn and spamming rmb?

im sorry but there is no defending this here, theres no objective way to justify the existence of clones doing thousands of damage risk free with a dinosaur in this small tier weight class
its disrespectful to all other dinosaurs that require any level of skill, and also to apexes that require a huge amount of time and patience to grow but can do nothing against a broken overpowered mechanic

[normal shuttle]

it's still stupid that they can in practice deal like 1500 damage at night with a couple bites

and you cannot do anything about it

even as a herra in HT I had a clone falling onto my branch and killing me. it's so dumb and overpowered

no fighting, no escape...Nothing, you just gotta put up with the devastating damage this thing does with minimal effort and skill

[covert tiger]

btw omni pinning smaller than it has the same issue of zero counterability
but omni has way too many other weaknesses and mechanics in place to counter it that still balance it out when fighting things larger than it
thats usually how most playables are balanced: strong in certain areas and weak in others
but dilo has been the exception forever

[normal shuttle]

well, dilo has abysmal agility

BUT

all it needs is an ambush to terminate most of the roster

oh right, and it can also kill you after you successfully beat it. Happened to me as pachy and galli multiple times

so balanced and well designed

[covert tiger]

its not really abysmal at all, its a minor nuisance at best which can be overcome via ambush
its agility is worse than tiny things sure, and around the same as cera/teno, but much better than everything else bigger than it

dilo has been unfairly favored since forever
they removed it from carnos diet, they made it faster than things smaller than it, it has the fastest bite speed in the game, they obstruct vision and scent for 8 minutes
all this should have been enough to create a very viable dino
but ofc they had to add free 1000 dmg on top

[woven bane]

dilos agility is way worse than ceras and tenos what are you on about? its nearly carno level

[normal shuttle]

nah not as bad

but tbh it is not really something it needs

like the biggest exploit I've done with it is to body fracture as pachy and juke it to burn through its stamina and then finish it off

[bleak kestrel]

Cant you just dodge dilo hallucnations?

I saw omni player just dodging em and they dispair

[past crystal]

the clones run in a straight line so theoretically yes

[bleak kestrel]

What if you could basicaly summon clones that would mimic your moves and basicaly try to fool your target by thinking the hallucnation is the real dilo

I think thats how dilo should work ngl

[bleak kestrel]

Ngl it would be nice if we had more biomes variants

And some places have to much hills and should be more flat ngl

[acoustic spruce]

well they’ll get destroyed during the day

Or they already do at least

[bleak kestrel]

Ngl i think best idea is for dilo to be able to use his clones as distraction to attack

Like maybe make 2 clones run like him near the orginal dino

[acoustic spruce]

The guy was also 1v4 so ofc he got destroyed

They all got their slimy teeth all over him

[acoustic spruce]

^

[bleak kestrel]

Or make whole horde of hallucnations run at the target so it will get very disoriented

[bleak kestrel]

Ngl this is fricking stupid

Like it is a illision the fact it deals damage it because its a GAME

Its really cool idea to instead make venom work and kill you overtime instead there will be illiusion that if you dont avoid you will lose hp

[acoustic spruce]

I’m saying the fact that the illusion deals damage means that it’s also venom

What would the point of playing dilo if your special doesn’t do anything

[bleak kestrel]

Yeah it is venom but like i dont get ppl who think these are actual clones 😭😭😭

Like ppl wanting that type of realisim in this game should be banned form feedback

[acoustic spruce]

True

Or they can go play Saurian

[native bough]

I really like it. Very nice touch.

[bleak kestrel]

Why we dont talk about herrera who can jump like a monke as 175kg animal 💀

The fact it can even climb with those little hands and jump on targets without killing itself is not realstic at all

But i dont care cause in the isle we got dinosaur that making would be also not really realstic cause well we cant do that

If you want to be realstic something like the isle wouldnt be the isle if it was realstic

[acoustic spruce]

@gloomy reef if allo can bite while sitting down that would be amazing

[gloomy reef]

huh

[urban flax]

not really

[acoustic spruce]

Yes

I stand by my words

[acoustic spruce]

How do you not know what I’m talking about if you posted that video

[gloomy reef]

im talking about the graphics

[acoustic spruce]

Yea, I’m talking about the biting

[gloomy reef]

well i wasnt

[acoustic spruce]

But now we are

💀💀

[gloomy reef]

o

[acoustic spruce]

But yea I like the graphics suggestion

[copper cradle]

Why are you comparing an image that shows trees from a distance to trees that are close, of course the its gonna look better lol sorry but evrima still looks better close up than that vid you posted

[covert tiger]

Did you watch the video?

[gloomy reef]

yea... no it doesnt 😭

the isle is more vibrant yes, but the unreal footage has more size comparison more realistic coloring and a better atmosphere

[normal shuttle]

Who’s gonna destroy them besides carnos and omnis in the open?

And that doesn’t justify an ability that cheap

Just balance the thing and everyone will be happy bruh

[covert tiger]

I'm convinced that there are actually in fact people out there who LIKE to dominate everything easily with zero counterplay
That challenge would be a bad thing for them and God forbid introducing some skill would just ruin the dino

[normal shuttle]

Dunno if I told you, but I commented on that vid and someone replied “lemme guess, you’re just a cera main crying about dilo” when I said they made it so much worse than in legacy and an op crutch

First up lmao strawman/ad hominem argument

Second…HOW IS CERA ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT IN TERMS OF BEING BROKEN AND UNCOUNTERABLE?

Who are these people? Who educated them?

When someone is fine with dilo as it is now (in HT mainly but still has been terrible design wise since it was added), I crash out

[copper cradle]

Its just dull and brown, so you're saying a jungle isn't green?

And that constant wind you have in that vid would just get really annoying

[normal shuttle]

why

[boreal vessel]

The game is way too dark.

[gloomy reef]

dude... im talking about the graphics

idc about the sound 😭

[copper cradle]

OK? It still looks dull and brown

[thick summit]

this rock belongs to the pachycephalosaurus empire now

woops wrong chat

[gloomy reef]

realistc*

better then the isle currently

shadows are messed up

[potent solar]

can u fix the bug when i catch a fish and go to eat it on shore he disapear???

[copper cradle]

Look fine for me, maybe your graphics options 🤷‍♂️

[gloomy reef]

tbh i dont see any dif from changing ur graphics

[copper cradle]

So you don't see a difference when playing on low to epic I play on epic and even from a distance it looks good

[opaque inlet]

@scarlet ocean Hey your suggestion on Maia is super important in my opinion. I am not sure but in my experience, the devs see official bug reports faster than they see bug reports within the feedback section. Since this looks like it's probably unintended and therefore a bug, maybe you should make a bugreport on it? Video evidence/photo evidence isn't required, just explain how to recreate the bug.

[ancient kestrel]

Epic and low setting in the Isle Evrima are really close to each other for my opinion. What supposed to be low looks like usual medium graphic settings in any other game with same graphic levels

[copper cradle]

Yea but you can still see a difference

[gloomy reef]

wel idk then 😭

[ancient kestrel]

I really wish them adding a real "potato" level low settings

[copper cradle]

If you suggested a forest map then yea that would be good like legacy

[gloomy reef]

i just want cool hot climates for the isle not always forrest

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/skeptical-futurama-fry-hmmm-i-got-my-eyes-on-you-gif-17101711

[copper cradle]

A jungle is a hot climate? That's what we have now

[ancient kestrel]

I really wonder why lower model/terrain geometry level settings aren't available. Dino models in this game have overkill amounts of polygons

I know that terrain and plant detail can be changed in the config but game quickly puts it to default when it notices that I did changed that manually

[gloomy reef]

i mean a hotter climate

dessert

[copper cradle]

There used to be this map on legacy, was OK but mainly empty

[blissful oasis]

this looks easy to make right? why dont they just add a quick map like that? 2-3 big-ish lakes with rivers and palm trees? max 50 players? a new map would be great for the game it dont have to be a cannon map

[copper cradle]

yea probably not hard to make but imagine trying to grow as a juvie with no cover or places to hide, the moment an adult sees you you're dead

[blissful oasis]

yk those trees next to swamp by the beach? they should make little pactches of those

[acoustic spruce]

I stand by my choices

[scarlet ocean]

It IS super important, its like a worse cera vomit lock 😭
But good suggestion, ill make a bugreport of it, pray it gets seen 🙏
Cause god is it annoying and unfair- you can lose over half of your hp by simply not being able to attack or move while being locked into your selected stance-
Happened earlier with a friend of mine, he desperately tried to swift from quad to bipedal but couldn't cause of the issue, and lost like 1.5k hp just with that

[wooden agate]

well you have to figure out spots for sanctuaries, spawns for everyone that actually help them, areas for all MZ/PZ plants to spawn and for AI to spawn (so you would need some type of forest/plains/beach in there somewhere) alongside making the map visually interesting and up to the standards gateway has set

that's not including how much it would increase the download size by, depending on size

that's partly the reason we can't play on Spiro without downloading its beta branch anymore

[copper cradle]

iv not been there in a while but some beach areas do look cool with the blue ocean water

[frank tapir]

@honest lake the NV is bugged

[blissful oasis]

gateway is the big daddy of maps most of it would be sand dunes, i think the map designers could get this done if they just spam the same trees and throw some rocks place one spawn point in every corner (small map) also maybe make it a island that is 1000 by 1000 meters

ima make a exsample in prehistoric kingdom

ik its not as easy as that

but i feel like it would be good fo rthe game if it had more maps

[wooden agate]

that'll be the modders jobs when modding is added

[blissful oasis]

when modding is added

thats not for another 3 years i dont think

[blissful oasis]

dibble getting hunted by rex (on the cool map

[blissful oasis]

make it no ai

realistic cuz its a dessert you get the point

[hidden mist]

I’m not the author of the post, however I’ll throw my 2 cents. I reported this thing since it was on Live, then reported at the beginning of Horde Test, and also reported ~2 weeks ago. During all this time the only things that changed with Maia were some buffs it received, and these two bugs weren’t touched at all. That kinda disappoints me, so I think that bringing public attention to it is the only solution (or not, but then I don’t know what is, lol).

[gloomy reef]

that doesnt mean it will be the same on evrima

[wooden agate]

sends pictures of random tooltip
doesn't elaborate

#general-feedback message

[woeful latch]

but i agree

90% of the people treat this channel as suggestion channel, not feedback anyway lmao, i’m used to weird stuff xdd

[normal shuttle]

I think he's complaining about people not being nice...

(I am feeling targeted as a canni on literally every dinosaur I play)

[honest lake]

Ohh thank god

[scarlet ocean]

does that imply that its intentional 😭 for maia to be soft stunned into quad/bipedal?

me and my partner also just made a bug report of it-

its technically nothing gamebreaking, or insanely bad, but it CAN become bad when you lose over half ur hp cause you literally cannot run-

[wooden agate]

@proven fossil that already exists

wounded is a status effect lol

[proven fossil]

does it affect strength?

i seen it but i didnt know if it had any mechanic effects other than just stating the obvious

[wooden agate]

yeah it lowers your damage by a good chunk

[proven fossil]

oh wooord

[desert arch]

Tbf it might be, since switching stances while making sounds would require additional transition animations which dont exist, probably due to financial reasons, or an oversight.

[scarlet ocean]

i dont think they would need a new animation set-

they could just speed it up like they did with that HT maia alt 😭

looks jank

but it works- make this work 😭

[desert arch]

Am I the only one that thinks its unnaturally fast

[wooden agate]

im like half way sure it was fixed in HT lol

[desert arch]

Like why

[scarlet ocean]

its not, we literally tested it less than an hr ago

[desert arch]

Not even troodon or omni alt attack that fast

[scarlet ocean]

made a vid on it too-

and its interesting too- cause we tested, both standing or running maia making noise stance switching doesnt work, but on live branch, you can make calls standing and switch stance, but not running OR getting bit 💀

like what kind of oversight is that-

[prisma cedar]

would appreciate waterfalls to be less glitchy and not phase you through crevices

3 of us stuck now

[copper cradle]

did you mean these tree's? iv never been here before lol but would be nice if we had a mz or pz here

[blissful oasis]

yesir their SO nice, but i wanna se them more so a whole map for these trees man

[blissful oasis]

i think there is a lil PZ over there somewhere

[copper cradle]

yea its a nice place, oh is there? il have to come here more often if there is a pz here, thanks

[blissful oasis]

no worries =)

[woven bane]

#general-feedback message omni dosen’t really need that in its kit tbf

[lapis burrow]

Am i the only one that thinks we Desperatly need some sort of way to suicide or undstuck? This is like the third time since the game started im now in a Spot where i am stuck and i have to weit like an hour or longer to drown or starve #general-feedback

Im playing with my friends so i cant just switch Servers becouse they are grown on this Server already

[junior nymph]

we have a unstuck

its /unstuck

[lapis burrow]

Im assuming you need to open console? How do you do that

[junior nymph]

nah you dont

just write /unstuck in chat

[lapis burrow]

Did it, it didnt work and now its on cooldown

Tried 2 times now, unstuck does nothing in this spot

[frank birch]

same problem -314 187

waiting to starve lol

[thick ivy]

why are people down voting like this place is so dead

[wooden agate]

maybe on officials but on unofficials its thriving lol

theres an amazing cave there for nesting, its rare for deinos to be there, easy PZ's near by

sanctuary near by for any people you nest in

[thick ivy]

personally ive never seen anyone thjere

[junior nymph]

feathers I was there on petits and there were LOADS of people just not on AU

AU players think of this game as a deathmatch

[thick ivy]

i see

[ancient kestrel]

I don't think that download size matters at all. And most games usually gave multiple maps to choose from. So it would be weird to care about that too much

[wooden agate]

good for those games, they arent the isle

that also doesn't address the other issues lol

[ancient kestrel]

Even Legacy have multiple maps available. And devs already hinted that Gateway wouldn't be the only map in Evrima

[wooden agate]

obviously it won't be the only map, but a) desert map comes with heaps of issues and b) modding will likely be out by then anyway

[ancient kestrel]

Desert would be good introduction for droughts and season changes tho. Also desert being hard to survive is kinda the point of such biom. But it have to be total wasteland obviously.

[normal glade]

#general-feedback message
@noble pine
I actually really like this suggestion. I have a feeling that if they did implement it, it would be a long ways away, but it's an excellent idea for the future if they can make it work.

I know a lot of players would see this and think "this is so lame/boring, we can just kill them." But honestly, this would feel extremely immersive for realism enjoyers, roleplayers/roleplay community servers (could potentially be toggled off for deathmatch-style servers), and horror/gore enthusiasts. On official servers, if someone just wants to kill, they don't need to use this mechanic and can just kill for bodies and that's fine.

But I feel like this would be a move that would vastly discourage senseless aggression/killing of grows people spent hours on. It could help encourage nesting, even, because juveniles could playfully spar over corpses/meat their parents bring home. I think it would be fun as a solo to come across a kill and choose actually 'wrestle' for it or for chunks rather than kill.

[ancient kestrel]

What the heck is this post even about #general-feedback message

[urban flax]

Someone got mad because they got cannibalized

[thick summit]

Skill issue

Just don't trust everyone

[normal shuttle]

@thorny cipher why are you even assuming everyone is your friend? Also cannibals are pretty easy to distinguish from the rest https://youtu.be/tFGPkd1edJo?si=HGIWfZE8HDLZNpMO

I am sorry

But this is just a skill issue that can be remedied

[frank tapir]

what do we think of overpacking debuffs?

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message 🥹🥹🥹

we got a mad gamer

[hidden pilot]

then make it not dead instead of removing it?

[charred flare]

Help me pls I'm stuck on NA-4

[normal shuttle]

Bad

Just make megapacks and such harder to maintain rather than artificially debuffing them

[normal shuttle]

Because the place is goated unironically

Just fix migrations and it will be good. Reason as for why hotspots exist is because patrols are just busted and allow you to settle in one spot and grow there peacefully

[frank tapir]

they clearly don't want to do that, they want the ai to be the way it is currently

[normal shuttle]

Then make ai harder to catch

Despite its abundance

I really don’t feel like getting debuffed because some people are nesting or because others keep following me and I can’t kill them for some reason

[frank tapir]

I didn't feel like dying to 8 ceratos but it happened

[ancient kestrel]

Still debuffs are a bad idea

I rather wonder if those megapcks or mixpacks would be killed by this odd robo-quetz

Tho, probably it is intended for something else

[indigo gulch]

To be fair, carnivores need to spent stamina to get ai. I’ve had plenty of times where I just ambush a carno that just struggled to run down a boar🤣

[rotund fractal]

Guys, what do you think of my wish for a different Dilo poison system in general? My problem with the Dilo is that it gives me really unrealistic vibes. No dino should be able to summon clones like a wizard! xD

[indigo gulch]

The dilo clones are a physical simulation of the poison going through your system. That’s why it can reach you everywhere

Tho that causes quite the frustration, I do admit

[rotund fractal]

the Dilo decides when the clone comes and summons him with his call, I think it is better when poisoned dinos get hallucinations and the Dilo doesn't call up clones

[normal shuttle]

Realism isn’t the problem dilo has

It’s how the mechanic affects others

[rotund fractal]

Thats true

[rotund fractal]

for me yes but evryone has his own view.

[rotund fractal]

👍🏻

[candid umbra]

okay guys, i need your opinions on this idea #general-feedback message

[rotund fractal]

yeah I agree with it, good Idea

[normal shuttle]

Maybe the clones isn’t something you should understand in a literal sense

Because it’s a way to picture the damage of the venom itself

Not the dilo spawning actual clones out of thin air

because the devs felt like making it something you can trigger

but the whole point of it is that the venom is hallucinogenic properties still damages the organism that has been inflicted with it. It's not like the dilo is casting shadow clones or anything within the setting

[latent olive]

the hallucinations spawn on their own, its just that dilo can manually summon some

[rotund fractal]

That's one of the points why I criticize it

Because it felt like the Dilo is a Wizzard xD

[bleak kestrel]

Honestly i think hallucnations should be used as distraction

[normal shuttle]

@karmic yacht do you realize how much of a difference that could make in balancing?

We need to get rid of every single damage, health and speed boost in the whole mutation list, not suggest new ones

10% extra speed trotting had the potential to be laughably broken

And nerfing the sprint also runs the risk of putting the giga in an unfavorable matchup

We don’t need those things in this game

[floral quest]

@rotund fractal i’d gladly hear ur opinion🙂

[rotund fractal]

reference to what

[floral quest]

my post in #general-feedback

[rotund fractal]

it would be fair if it stayed that way because after all, when you are fully grown as a trike, you are one of the most powerful herbivores as a trike. And I think it's more than fair if you have it more than difficult as a baby and Carnis have an advantage at night. The night vision. That's my view

[floral quest]

being able to see just a bit better would feel good, trike’s easy to kill as far as i’ve known

[bleak kestrel]

The more i play against omni more i understand pounce need some polishing

I think body shots should only get you pounced

Like today my herrera got pounced and the omni that pounced me wasnt even on my tail it just was biting the ground

[rotund fractal]

I saw many Vid and Trike is (rightly) very strong and if you do it well you can really fend off any carnivore unless they are overpacking

but I can agree with your Idea, when nv would be just a little bit better as Babytrike, than I vote for yes @floral quest

[floral quest]

as an adult it prolly looks alot better, this i do not know yet. but yeah this was for baby trike’s nv

[pliant elm]

#general-feedback message @chrome shale Maia in bipedal mode (2 legs) has horrible spin and drift and horrible acceleration. If you are having trouble dodging this, I'm sorry to say that the problem is not with Maia.

[floral quest]

ikr it looks so weird sometimes, but the prompt does it where prompt is😔

[chrome shale]

okay, ceratosaur, predator, running from 2 maias and a teno (teno was almost out), i drift and the hitbox of that atatck in movement still hits me, turning is kinda uselss and it deals lots of dmg, it kills me with 3-4 hits as a 100% adult. He eats plants, should be a self defense thing and they play for pvp chasing down carnivores cause they know they cant lose. a stamina nerf or speed nefr would be fine

[urban flax]

herbivores !!!!

[floral quest]

#general-feedback message @tame jetty whats the nv bug?

[pliant elm]

When you play Cerato, do you think you should be able to kill everyone and everything? Do you think they shouldn't pose a threat to you just because they're herbivores? Cerato players are really annoying. They play with the most OP creature in the Evrima and when they die they still complain.

[chrome shale]

actually i only played cerato for one day, and it's slow, not tanky, and the only mechanic of vomiting u cant kill anyone cause they have enough stamina to run away 5 km, and I'm just telling my opinion, but seems like u are taking it too personal

if maia is faster, its ok, but faster, stronger and with lot more stamina?

[icy lion]

@quaint robin Send them this form https://dyno.gg/form/8ceec187

[urban flax]

You got cera all wrong lol
It may be the slowest land carnivore currently, but it's still fast enough to catch up to most things since vomit forces them to slow down and tanks their stamina, while cera also has one of the best stam efficiencies in the game, as well as having damage resistances all around

[pliant elm]

Play a little more with Cerato and you will realize how OP he is. If you know what you are doing, Cerato can go 1v1 with a Maia. Bite the Maia a few times and if he runs away, follow his footprints because he will stop at some point so he doesn't die from bleeding.

[pliant elm]

(1v1 against a bad maia)

[quaint robin]

what to do?

he has this

[icy lion]

Could you dm me his username?

[quaint robin]

with pleasure

check ur dm now

all he was asking about in discord is how to solve "connecting" that was taking infinite time to login in any server exept one

[eternal moss]

@trail obsidian Defecation could also be another way to vomit, if there's nothing around to make you vomit. Nice idea.

[trail obsidian]

Just trying to think of more ways that prey could be tracked, or prey could smell it out to avoid areas 😮

[trail obsidian]

Yes on the other way to vomit.

[bleak kestrel]

Can someone tell my why cera half my size could face tank me

I was a pachy and got 2 charged headbutts in

[urban flax]

1. Pachy does pitiful damage
2. It was a cera

[bleak kestrel]

It was HALF MY SIZE

[floral quest]

cera is not the most op

[bleak kestrel]

It doesnt make sense for pachy to lose against something HALF HIS SIZE

I got to heavy headbutts in and more than 5 normal ones and i was 100kg +

So ur telling me i do so terrible damage than i didint kill cera that was like 50kg size wise

I get its a cera okey but its STILL half my size 💀

Like how does this make sense

[urban flax]

But you were a pachy

There's a reason barely anyone plays pachy now

[bleak kestrel]

Oh so pachy is that terrible or what?

I mean it would make sense since when i wad tenonto i could handle cera in 1v1 as baby and we were smillar size

But it doesnt make sense for my pachy do die something so small in raw damage output

[urban flax]

Oh there's also cheaters who can renders themselves immortal now, but it's hard to tell
I do think pachy's damage growth curve is on the low side too

[pliant elm]

short growth time, can get extremely easy diet, agility, can cause up to 500 damage in charge bite, makes you vomit reducing hunger and thirst by 80% preventing you from eating for 5 minutes and stuns you for 2-4 seconds, reasonable speed, damage reduction buff that can reach 80% depending on the carcass or 95% if it is congenital. Of course, not at all op

[normal shuttle]

@chrome shale bruh!!!! Bruh bruh bruh!!!!

Maia is meant to be fast. Relative to its size, it is completely helpless compared to most other herbivores in the game right now that are oriented towards combat. Also they have abysmal agility making them extremely easy to outmaneuver and their strongest attack (which wastes almost a 20th of their stamina bar and locks them in place) still can does far less damage than what a teno, dibble or stego can do with their cc or just pure damage

[dense meteor]

That's called a balanced kit, you still die easily, ur slow, u eat your own kind, u lose bacteria for each time you apply bacteria, ur charge is loud so you can't ambush with a charged bite, I'd say if anything nerf gastro mutation and you'd see a big impact on cera

[floral quest]

stego.

[eternal moss]

skill issue

[bleak kestrel]

and you say im toxic

[eternal moss]

🤡

[wooden agate]

mutations dont effect abilities afaik, damage reduction was nerfed a while ago, vomiting does not make you lose anywhere near 80% food or water

[past crystal]

vomiting definitely does make you lose 70-80% of your hunger bar

[gritty heart]

Eating your own kind is a buff for the species overall. It means that even when popular you always have a food source

[floral quest]

#general-feedback message i’ve noticed this, too. for any calls

[pliant elm]

Is something 1.3t that does the damage of an apex fair? Cerato should be a scavenger and not the best hunter in the game

[pliant elm]

Stego is apex xd

[floral quest]

still op, especially considering the roster.

[pliant elm]

Stego has no natural predators yet, so it looks like Op. The problem is that you with your cerato want to hunt everything and everyone and when you can't you come and complain

[floral quest]

«your cerato» lol

[floral quest]

no need to be rude. anyways, it’s OP COMPARED to the roster we have now. do you understand that?🩷

[pliant elm]

Damage mutations do not affect other carnivores, but Cerato's charge bite does. And yes, vomiting reduces your thirst and hunger by 80%, you can test it if you want.

[woeful latch]

75% 🤓☝️

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-mmm-cheesy-cheese-cheesy-gif-19257011

[summer forge]

@jagged lark agreed, having a life beside the game shouldn't mean you losing your dino because you can't log off when someone's attacking you. I get that it's to avoid toxicity but it's still unfair in my opinion

[jagged lark]

im so glad someone agrees 😭 i was trying to log off so i could go to sleep but ofcourse, my full grown stego should be knocked out of sleeping by a single troodon thats greifing me, legit just kept preventing me from logging off so i just had to hit log out and i hope im not dead tbh

[summer forge]

troodon can be a pain :( hopefuly they were alone, stego is tanky so I'm hoping it'll be okay

[jagged lark]

like, i understand that some people may just take their chance to sleep as theyre about to be hunted and that pounce not being able to prevent that would mean you lose out on a kill. But on the other hand, if i need to go something in real life i dont want someone to hold power over me and trap me in game, preventing me from doing what i need to do

[late plank]

@fickle cave are you suggesting human reproduction

😭

[fickle cave]

Yeah. Just like dinos, but mutants and cannibals. Can be an ez PG thing, like a kiss on the cheek

A kiss and a hug, boom, baby

[late plank]

no lol gen1s and gen2s are compleately different mate

plus the lore doesnt work like that

and human nesting wont be a thing lol

[fickle cave]

Just an idea :p im not a dev

[woeful latch]

human nesting

human nesting

[late plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/942379275984732193/1228029600781828136/togif.gif

[summer forge]

exactly, especially if you have an emergency in real life, you shouldn't have to sacrifice your dino because of that

[urban flax]

#general-feedback message
Yo wtf

[late plank]

fr 😭

[normal shuttle]

@fickle cave

Seriously

Why? Why do you have to suggest this and think it’s a good idea

Not only that’s not how pregnancy works but also…BRUH???? HUMAN REPRODUCTION THAT SERVES NO PURPOSE?

This also implies there would be human growth

And WHO THE HELL would ever want to reproduce with a Gen 1??

We don’t need human life cycle and nesting in the isle

[fickle cave]

Cool if its not ur cup of beans, im literally just brainstorming. Even if it wont get implimentded, could spark an idea

[normal shuttle]

Also Minecraft reproduction on GEN 1???

Half of my braincells just died imagining a human and this thing just hugging and kissing to create a JUVENILE hybrid

[fickle cave]

Good for you?

[normal shuttle]

I am still free to dunk on it without attacking the person

And honestly this sounds so much like bait

Sorry

[fickle cave]

Lowkey a little silly that youre getting this upset about a fictional idea in a game tbh.

[normal shuttle]

I am not getting upset

It’s mostly bewilderment

And incredulity

[fickle cave]

👍

[normal shuttle]

At such an outrageous proposal

[fickle cave]

👍

[normal shuttle]

Imagine humans nesting and having a growth time with their diet requirements

[normal shuttle]

Come on, don’t do the sarcastic thumbs up because I find the suggestion funny

[fickle cave]

you do you, boo boo

[normal shuttle]

It’s just so hilariously Beasts of Bermuda coded

If they had humans they would do that too

[karmic yacht]

whats wrong with mutations

[woeful latch]

imo they should temporarily remove the clones, why remove the dilo itself

basically what they did on the main branch

[normal shuttle]

So then you have a dinosaur no one wants to use

Because it would be abysmal and also not unique

[woeful latch]

people still play dilo on evrima branch

[normal shuttle]

Combat mutations and those that directly affect combat are bad because they lock you into them if you want to stand a chance

[woeful latch]

i would rather have dino nerfed, than no dino

[normal shuttle]

For example needing photo tissue nowadays to escape cannibals in species that have high pick rate or many cannibals

[karmic yacht]

the isle is a survival game just get survival mutation and eat ai in a forest

[normal shuttle]

Do you think anyone wants to just hide in the jungle and live off boars mostly?

[karmic yacht]

you literally have 2 dinos in your username saying you hate them

[normal shuttle]

Yeah

[karmic yacht]

god knows how much of the game you hate

[woeful latch]

lmao i just noticed

[normal shuttle]

What’s the problem. That does not cancel my argument

Ad hominem otherwise

[woeful latch]

i hate dilos and omnis too tbf🔥🔥🔥

[normal shuttle]

I don’t think combat mutations should exist because then they are the only ones worth getting

No one gets efficient digestion, hypervigilance, xerocole, hematophagy…Because otherwise you are at an objective disadvantage that might cost you your entire progress

So of course I am strongly against the idea of adding a speed mutation and also one that would either make giga broken or handicap it

[knotty blade]

hii so i love play deino but one big big problem is swamp why is there nothing will be this get changed or na ? swamp is just like ded or like its just there ?

[normal shuttle]

Theres certainly some things of interest in the swamp, but don’t expect to survive there in the long term as deino as things stand now

It’s fine for small crocs and herbivores passing by

But that’s about it. Hopefully that will change with more semi aquatics getting added

[knotty blade]

im fr now but after the west swamp i never saw one just ppl who try to kill them selve becuse is ded

[eternal moss]

@jolly void Dilo's venom gets a buff at night, and it only takes like 3-4 bites to be able to spawn hallucinations. Other than that, it takes like 10-20 bites to be able to spawn them if you're fighting larger animals.

There's also stages, and it can't spawn them until it gets to the purple stage.

[jolly void]

yeah ive played as and against dilo it does not take long to get to the purple stage
not nearly long enough anyways

especially considering that after you get to it you dont have to do much else for the whole fight

[eternal moss]

I'm a dilo main, and this isn't my playstyle. I still engage in fights, even when it's on purple stage.

[jolly void]

it might be your playstyle but it isnt what you have to do

[eternal moss]

I do it anyway.

[jolly void]

the point is dilo can choose to not engage after you get something to purple and theres nothing the enemy can do about it

[eternal moss]

Well, you still have the rights to call them a psy

[jolly void]

it shouldnt be able to do that, doesnt matter if you do it or not

[eternal moss]

@placid anchor This used to be a feature, but it got removed. I think too many people were complaining about it, because of how much stamina it drained. I wouldn't like to see it back in the game though, because your efforts of trying to regain stamina are just wasted.

[placid anchor]

Press [H] dude

[eternal moss]

By the time you get up, half of your health is gone, unless you're playing carno

I could see carno having this feature, but it would just be an unreasonable nerf to it tbh.

[placid anchor]

I don't understand casual players

[eternal moss]

It takes two times longer for most dinos to get up when using [H]

[placid anchor]

Am I arguing? I understand that some people need more time. That's the beauty of mechanics. If you want it faster, you spend stamina. I think that's a fair deal.

[eternal moss]

Still, im pretty sure its an unwanted feature.

[bleak kestrel]

@tame jetty yeah i really think cera charged bite should be defensive attack

[tame jetty]

Agreed, way too misused- all servers filled only with hunting cerstos x.x
The devs should make it follow it's nieshe like maia, that is run away animal and clearly has been built around it.. why treat cerato any different

[bleak kestrel]

Also i think charged bite should actually be charged up like it would make sense

And maybe when you bite onto something due to sheer force your snapped your jaws with it should make cera be unable to attack once more for likes a sec or idk

[desert arch]

Locking cera to trot only while charged biting would make it fodder to carnos and tenos ngl

Would also make it feel super clunky

[bleak kestrel]

I mean trotting is bit to much

But i think it should feel like its actually powerful bite

Cause it doesnt its just bite that needs your mouth to be open

@unreal ridge yeah this is really wierd ngl

I think u have great point

[unreal ridge]

there really doesnt feel like any stages anymore

and it really only feels like the game is dragging on until you are fully grown

by clearly defining the stages i feel like it would improve the game in the survival aspect

[bleak kestrel]

There is actually 3 stages

The middle one is easy to not notice due yo well that skin effect

Its really looks odd like part of skin just peels of

And i think it look so wierd sometimes

Instead of making some patterns slowly expand/dispair they just pop up

[unreal ridge]

I just think it would look more appealing too tbh

in legacy you could clearly identify things from a distance by particular patterns and sizes, as well as other things like horn shape for example

but currently it gets a little gray between juvenile and subadult

[hidden pilot]

tf did i jsut read

[normal shuttle]

😭 😭

It was a funny read though

[strange wave]

classic fsh feedback post, where he blocked literally every person that could possibly put an X on it and still nobody likes it

[normal shuttle]

And all because I said omni was more agile than dilo to the point where being 20 centimeters per second slower didn’t mean omni was doomed

[hidden pilot]

disturbing*

[normal shuttle]

Kinda

But it reminded me of that meme image of Godzilla and Superman and one of them is pregnant which made me cackle

[zealous violet]

Hey guys, for those that said no to the proximity chat for group members, im curious why. Especially if you can opt into it at your own free will and use the regular chat or discord?

[limber hull]

because it sounds incredibly unfair to give an opt-in option to avoid making noise while communciating and further invalidate the use of chatting and making noise that could reveal you to others

proximity chat should be for humans and nothing else

[thick summit]

And dinosaurs should be able to hear them talking

[limber hull]

they can but they won't understand it

[thick summit]

Well not exactly what they're saying

[limber hull]

yea you got it

[thick summit]

Yeah

[proven fossil]

@mortal parrot when larger tiers come in thast cerato byte wont be as strong since it needs to stack up for it to take effect

[normal pumice]

@raven sky What's wrong with my idea?

[inland wind]

Don't ask for Cera nerfs guys...
It will become very rare when rex and allo are out...
Nerfing it would make it useless to play when they are out.

[limber hull]

based on literally what evidence

[urban flax]

I might try playing cera once it's not the apex predator anymore
It's boring this way

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message

i still dont understand why so many people think this is intentional when it was fixed last week and only came back when they added sparring lol

[limber hull]

version control moment imho

#general-feedback message

I love how the solution isn't to remove the problem mutation, but instead to add another problem mutation that is arguably even MORE meta lmao

[sterile shale]

what would even be the point lmao

no way a bigger dino needs to take less damage from smaller dinos that badly

[limber hull]

well, rex can gain more damage resist against trike, so his idea is to "even the odds" by letting trike gain damage resist against rex, but that mutation also means trike gains damage resist against EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE GAME LMAO

[sterile shale]

perfectly fair

the small-mid tier population will be totally unaffected by this

[limber hull]

clearly congential was so beloved and fair we need a second one