#general-feedback-discussion

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barren zephyr
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Ppp did do that regardless before buff

limber hull
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current raptors can probably 4v1 a stego since pounce works now TI_HypsiShrug

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just be good at utah and you die less to stego

spring gorge
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I hope yall realise this game is fictional and the original game was based off literal weather changing dinosaurs so this "meta" bullshit is literal bullshit.

narrow goblet
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No, i pounced a stego the other day 7 times through full stam and it literally walked it off lmao

limber hull
spring gorge
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Carnivores are extremely underwheleming when it comes to combat.

narrow goblet
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I did and they pounced it 4 more times

limber hull
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you're just pouncing it, letting it heal bleed, then pouncing it again

narrow goblet
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And it walked it off

barren zephyr
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I play carnivore sometimes, its not that bad

limber hull
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a carno can also "walk off" a stego swing but that doesn't mean it didn't do jackshit

spring gorge
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Peessence?

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Or presence

barren zephyr
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Fat finger typing

narrow goblet
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A carno gets chunked for half its hp or one shpt by a single stego swing. Whereas a stego gets outplayed and punced 10 times and its just "meh ill walk a bit"

spring gorge
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Played teno today and that was just shite tbh

visual dust
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carnivores and herbivores should be equal in power, this is how it works in real life

limber hull
barren zephyr
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With a pack of 5

narrow goblet
limber hull
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how the hell do you tell if a stego is "panicking" lmao

narrow goblet
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It starts calling for help and swinging a lot

limber hull
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stegos aren't AI, not every stego is gonna do that

narrow goblet
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This one literally didnt care abt being pounced lol

spring gorge
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hours*

barren zephyr
limber hull
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i've watched a stego literally very calmly walk around after being pounced over and over again by my pack and just drop dead, no calls, no indication it was low, just died

narrow goblet
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Listen man we can argue abt this all night but i know your mind cant be changed so lets let bygons be bygons. We each have opinions that are right to us

spring gorge
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Its just that the carnivores against herbis are imbalanced. I feel that way personally but after so much frustration with the game I dont care too much about it now. @barren zephyr

barren zephyr
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The ballance is fine rn imo

spring gorge
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Yes but a lion cam take down a singular zebra.

limber hull
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i just dont think having herbis being weak or easy food is a great way to incentivise people to play those dinosaurs

barren zephyr
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Stego isnt zebra...

spring gorge
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In this sense a teno is a zebra.

narrow goblet
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Im not saying make them weak but make it even and fair

limber hull
spring gorge
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Gotta read, wasnt talking about stegos anywhere lmao

barren zephyr
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Tennos cant be in heards of 50 to 100

limber hull
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don't underestimate zebras

barren zephyr
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Thats why they are stronger

spring gorge
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No fighting back unless babies are involved.

limber hull
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not really, zebras aren't so dumb. They're known to get violent very easily

barren zephyr
spring gorge
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You dont aee an entire zebra heard coming for that one zebra.

limber hull
spring gorge
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Survival doesnt care about your feelings.

barren zephyr
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Game wont run 50 tennis on map like zebras irl

spring gorge
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And they are not.

limber hull
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do you know nothing about zebras lmao

narrow goblet
spring gorge
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Yes, being african is a good way to tell.

narrow goblet
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Had at least 24 fully grown tenos by dam

barren zephyr
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Zebra herds armt in 24

limber hull
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out of every animal to use as an example, the fucking murderdonkey is not a good one to prove carnivore superior lethality. These fuckers will kill their own kind because they can

narrow goblet
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Zebra herds also dont all go after lions

spring gorge
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The game is shit. Yall defending a literal early access game which clearly has ossues.

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issues*

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Its been early access for 6 years.

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It has problems.

barren zephyr
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Zebra herds arnt size below 50, and we need tenos strong to compensate for lack of numbers

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This isnt bully simulator, its a suevival game based on metas and skill

limber hull
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metas is debatable but sure

barren zephyr
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Sure realism is cool, but... it sucks when you play a zebra like character only knowing youre only purpose in life is to feed the players who wanna have fun

limber hull
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exactly

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no one wants to play walking food

barren zephyr
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That's why for both performance reasons and gameplay, we need herbies to be able to fight back

limber hull
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either that or be fast enough to book it away from the predator

barren zephyr
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Tennos may be zebra like irl. But the game cannot handle over 50 players in one small area, it just cant

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Its even worse when either way, most ppl ganna play carnivore anyway and mass pack regardless of how strong the herbies are or not

limber hull
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yea, very true

barren zephyr
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Realism as it gets, you players create a meta that requires herbies to be op

limber hull
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they need to also give herbis unique niches to make them appealing

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like how pachy is bone break bastard

spring gorge
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Its the people who abuse that though, how is that meta

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Like pachys today, 7 of them bullying tenos

barren zephyr
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Because there are more ppl who abuse it and youre the minority who cries about realism when no one creates a real life experience

spring gorge
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How does that sentence make sense?

barren zephyr
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Sucks yea, i want more realism where a carno isnt killing for sport

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But guess what, it aint ganna happen

spring gorge
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Okay, brick walls arent fun to talk to. Have a great day!

barren zephyr
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I think u just dont like it when ppl tell you stuff that makes sense in terms of ballance. Ppl are horrible and that manifests itself in the game regardless if you want it to or not.

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Best thing you can do is create a ballance to the over packing.

spring gorge
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Man, a normal conversation sounds refreshing right now.

frank quest
spring gorge
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Bahah

zealous violet
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Dark_Raptor, why am I blocked D: All of your ideas have been so good and I wanna give them a little ✅

fathom frigate
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Please give us an actual, quick-paced trot, and replace the current "walk" with the current "trot". The walk in this game is a useless shuffle/meander that no one uses.

tight oxide
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also decreases bleed drain speed

fathom frigate
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Find a bush to hide, sit. Walking would just blow your cover and it doesn't get you anywhere

tight oxide
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the walk is helpful for mid combat? Or some other situations :P

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I dont think you can always sit so...

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You make the current walk feel like its forced ngl

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if you see a moment to use it... then use it?

fathom frigate
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In combat, I can't imagine when you'd want to walk instead of hide completely; walk would reveal you and it's no good for sneaking away since it's too slow

fathom frigate
tight oxide
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in combat you cant always go to some bush to heal lol

tight oxide
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it gives slight increases to things while just being slower

fathom frigate
# tight oxide Tbh I dont know what you expect from a walk

The current trot is a walk. It's literally not a trot; i'm saying if we put that as the walk and make an actual trot animation for when it's needed (when we want to go at a speed between a walk and run with a middleground level of stam regen).

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or just straight delete the walk

tight oxide
limber hull
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teno has a pretty decent trot all things considered

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thing can basically just trot all over the place and be there in a brisk pace

fathom frigate
limber hull
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i feel like trotspeed is a balancing factor tho

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if everything has teno's trot, that's bad for teno

fathom frigate
fathom frigate
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at current, walk is useless for getting around since it's so slow. Be like if they had a crawl animation; no point to it

limber hull
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but teno is meant to have a outstanding trotspeed, and you can't really speed it up that much without looking utterly ridiculous

tight oxide
limber hull
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yea i use z walking a bit in fights (especially endurance based/bleed-based fights)

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its useful as animals like tenonto who want to constantly move their body to face their opponent but still want good stam regen and bleed to be minimised

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i imagine animals like diablo will also use it

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its also decent on utah to make sure you can minimise bleed and increase stam regen while still being able to effectively circle your target

final mango
limber hull
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for me it will TI_HypsiShrug

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im very excited for dryo to be more than just "runs a lot, the dinosaur"

final mango
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You know what will make a difference? If they give people an economy system where you get points by actually surviving and completing life cycles where playing smaller animals with shorter lifespans will actually matter

limber hull
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being able to essentially "build" in a game like this is a niche in itself and inherently way more interesting than just running around and having a dodge that isn't useful in basically any situation

final mango
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Build yeah

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You could "build" your lair as a dino that would be kind of cool

limber hull
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exactly. Some of my fondest memories of legacy were with dryo and hearing the colossal threats duking it out over my tiny little idiot hole

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and the burrowing system in EVRIMA is confirmed to be FAR more advanced

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you can genuinely customise the burrow to be sort of labyrinth-like in nature from what I've seen of dev builds, disorienting small predators trying to invade and creating (potentially) multiple exits to flee from threats

final mango
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Not just the dryo, i'm personally a fan of stuff like if a carnivore hunts alot in a cave or something it could pile up bones and stuff like that so that if something else walks in knows that is some other creature's lair

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Kind of like building a nest that isn't necessarily a nest if that makes sense

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perhaps you could even get perks from it, thats the closest we could get from "building/crafting" while playing as an animal

limber hull
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@unreal ridge no need to worry about that, it's unlikely that species-based diets will remain post gore (they could, but a lot of evidence points away from that)

unreal ridge
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I would like to keep some species based diets and just add some gore to that

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like if your creature (like rex) has bone crushing strength you go after anky and trike

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but you would also enjoy any crushed bones/bone marrow to gnaw on

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y'know?

limber hull
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with such a huge roster, there's not always a guarantee you will find a trike or anky

tight oxide
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Just make different meats and bone be things to consider in a carnivore diet simple

unreal ridge
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thats why i tried to inflate each diet with about 5-6 options

unreal ridge
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so if you cant find that specifically you can find something more common, like dibble para etc

limber hull
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i dislike even considering dinosaur AI

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i fucking hate the concept

tight oxide
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dryo ai good TI_Troll

unreal ridge
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I like the concept for some creatures

limber hull
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no

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dryo AI is just as bad as the rest

tight oxide
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you cant get worse than carno ai

unreal ridge
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like troodon packs and hadrosaur herds that just roam around

limber hull
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compy and pterodactylus only two good AI dinosaurs

tight oxide
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hypsi

limber hull
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does not deserve to be AI

tight oxide
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adds more life to trees

limber hull
unreal ridge
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but dinosaur

tight oxide
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monkey gonna get mauled by herrera

unreal ridge
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why spend some more money getting another model

limber hull
unreal ridge
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when you can just spend hours of time and money making a dino ai

tight oxide
limber hull
limber hull
tight oxide
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how the hell will troodon be good after they add trampling anyways?

unreal ridge
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hit and run tactics

tight oxide
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unless it gets a pounce type move

limber hull
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(it's very likely to get a pounce type move)

tight oxide
limber hull
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i believe i saw an animation of a troodon pouncing so TI_HypsiShrug

unreal ridge
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you bite something, venom kicks in, when it chases around for you, hide and when the venom is severe it sits down, then you go back in

tight oxide
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thought that was a little test animation

limber hull
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doubtful

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the pounce was completely unique

tight oxide
unreal ridge
limber hull
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it was on some reddit leak with a bunch of other animal animations

tight oxide
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oh god the isle reddit

limber hull
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troodon had a ton of already seen animations, and if it was fake, that'd take a LOT of effort as there were around 300 total animations in the files

limber hull
tight oxide
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mhm sure...

unreal ridge
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can you get us that link?

limber hull
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idk if you should be sending it

limber hull
# tight oxide mhm sure...

i fucking hate reddit so much i only made an account because my old game studio forced me to make one and then i proceeded to never use it

tight oxide
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dang

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also name yourself mr giga already

limber hull
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i already did that

tight oxide
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really?

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well I'll be darned

limber hull
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but yea, if they were to do "anky" as a diet option, the same nutrient should be given by turtles imho

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they aren't nearly the same thing but they both bony as hell for that good calcium

unreal ridge
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add archolen or whatever

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big turtle for apex

limber hull
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oh, and minmi would be on the same list as anky

tight oxide
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just classify it as hard prey in the diet menu :P

limber hull
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yea, like that

tight oxide
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now...

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about that unstuck button

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when

limber hull
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you could literally make "ceratopsian" a diet option and it'd be viable lmao

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there's like fucking 7 of them

tight oxide
wild stone
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That's an interesting idea, actually. "Hadrosaurs."

dark osprey
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jagged jewel
limber hull
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it's the fact that the current AI is DESIGNED first and foremost as AI

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amarok can do whatever he wants with it without having to conform to a toolset or playstyle set out for players

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and thus, the current AI like boars, goats and fish, can basically be given any AI behaviour and still feel a part of the world and not disconnect you from the immersion. Dino AI, on the other hand, acts DISTINCTLY different from its player counterpart and immediately makes you think "yep, that's AI, I know how to exploit that"

jagged jewel
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that is also very true

barren crater
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Dino AI... I have no hopes after seeing what carno AI was like. Idk why they want to bring back carno AI anyway. We already have enough carnivores

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Utah packs will just exploit the damn thing

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I wouldn't even be surprised if 1 utah player solos that shit consistently.

limber hull
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i soloed an adult teno AI as a sub-utah lmao

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Boars proved a bigger challenge

barren crater
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Yep. Also AI has a big problem where it just snaps onto you

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Like teno AI was so broken, it would look one way and then somehow face you to attack

limber hull
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yep

barren crater
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Was so odd to judge the timing since there was no human aspect to it, but once found out. It's the exact same for each AI

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That's the number 1 issue with AI. The same tactic will work for them all

limber hull
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exactly

barren crater
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Humans can adapt. AI? No chance

limber hull
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i fear rex AI, not because it will be a legitimate scary threat

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but because it'll be a joke

barren crater
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Yep. Will rex AI know to run into a tree to hit a utah off? Nope

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Or use deep water

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Heck even mud

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Or know to crouch to hide footprints

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It will probs be baited into the open plains and picked off by utah packs

limber hull
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but it will turn 180 degrees in an instant to one-tap bite you and will find you even if fully covered in bushes

barren crater
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Oh yeah. Very cool. That's the AI's exclusive ability to differentiate between players. TE_KEKWlaugh

limber hull
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so it'll be both a meme and an annoyance

barren crater
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Yep, which sucks

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Please, dryo AI max size for AI

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well technically boar is larger

limber hull
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also who exactly is rex AI appealing to? It's not appealing to people who want "big predator" to rival stego because that predator is entirely unplayable to them and isn't going to go out of its way to deal with stego, it's not appealing to rex fans because they don't even get to PLAY the rex, it's not appealing to the horror fans since it'll become quickly exploited with a consistent strategy to always avoid risk and it's not appealing to people who love the fact that the game has a focus on PvP since it adds an AI enemy that dwarfs everyone else for no good reason

barren crater
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but max size for dino AI

limber hull
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Max size for dino AI should be compy

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(pterodactylus is smaller)

barren crater
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I guess. I don't mind either way. As long as it's small

barren crater
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and it probs won't even be complete to play so there's that

limber hull
barren crater
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Exactly

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It will get people onto the game to play rex

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Which is probs a bad idea

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Imagine some Youtuber playing as rex on a video in evrima. Bad look imo

limber hull
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less official players and more people playing buggy-ass unfinished AI rex

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if you're adding rex, give us rex

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(you shouldn't do that btw because it'd fuck the ecosystem up in all kinds of ways)

barren crater
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Rex gameplay would be get to sub stage. Now starve

limber hull
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all things considered, deino was the best possibly apex to get. Designated small-game ambush hunter that doesn't rely on a decent population of mid/large/apex animals

barren crater
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Or get so lucky you get so scavenge off a lot of kills

limber hull
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deino was the easiest apex-class predator to integrate

barren crater
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yeah

lapis swallow
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The rex needs to come when a lot of a mid and high tiers are already released and with its herbie counterpart, the trike

limber hull
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(i'm confused why trike was in EVRIMA for a short bit then gone even tho it could've been a better roster pick than stego for utah packs to hunt)

barren crater
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Do you think they should add trike anytime soon?

limber hull
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atm? not at all

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one apex herbivore is enough

barren crater
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Not necessary or too much for the ecosystem due to stego

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ah fair

limber hull
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their focus on diablo is nice tho and honestly would be a great first ceratopsian for EVRIMA

barren crater
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Yeah. Also with the inclusion of diablo, we could probs get our first larger mid tier carni

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not too long after

limber hull
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Small enough to integrate well, probably would have some decent interactions and hunts facing off against utahs, can fend off carnos and other similar-sized predators well with powerful horns, so on

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also diablo is sized at 1500kg now so take that as you will

barren crater
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Good size imo

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If you don't focus and get ambushed, larger carnis can kill you. However still have the ability to stand your ground well with the reduced head frill damage and weight

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I also like that they'll add bary as well. We could probably have a great roster by this time next year. Hopefully that is.

limber hull
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yea

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im excited

jagged jewel
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carnivores i’m most excited for are bary, cera and herrera and megalania

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herbivores are diablo minmi and probably kentro

limber hull
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i like troodon a lot

jagged jewel
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right i forgot about him

barren crater
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After update 6, they said they'll be adding dinos quicker?

jagged jewel
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hopefully

limber hull
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yea

barren crater
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Nice

jagged jewel
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i just want megalania

barren crater
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So by the start of next year, we could be looking at a lot of inclusions

jagged jewel
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i hope so

barren crater
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I hope we get cerato, galli, troodon and beipi this year aPES_Think

jagged jewel
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same

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although i prefer all other venomous animals over troodon

limber hull
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i personally really like troodon

barren crater
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I think troodon will be a goofy fun

limber hull
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with mates, i can assemble the swarm

barren crater
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I'd like to see it in action

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But I do prefer dilo, purely off of legacy. However that could change in evrima

jagged jewel
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i agree, don’t get me wrong, i just prefer the idea of sub megalanias having gang wars with herreras in the trees

barren crater
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Damn. I keep forgetting... So many playables

jagged jewel
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true lmao

limber hull
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@hybrid sierra they just switched stego and deino's place this update, you're suggesting it go back to how it was before

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they want deino to cannibalise

hybrid sierra
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Okay, then im going to be making a lot of people want to quit this game

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checking to see if people are friendly is so dangererous

hybrid sierra
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its easier to just run down the river killing people and then playing

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but man they get so mad and spend the next hour screaming at you

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following you around as baby crocs

lapis swallow
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I see no problem with the diet switch

hybrid sierra
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okay biologically it doesn't make sense as a fish is closer to a crocodile

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crocodiles tolerate one another in the wilde more than they would a stego sitting in the water

dire ridge
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The real problem are the river and their size

hybrid sierra
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crocodiles do canibalize and it would still happen, but they would always attack a stego

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do you see in nature, 100's of crocodiles sitting in the water together, that is how it is

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but its not my game, its what it is

dire ridge
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Because they know that its not worth to fight each other to death

hybrid sierra
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how come raptors for example in this game get cramps

dire ridge
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You cannot really replicate that in game

hybrid sierra
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for eating one another

dire ridge
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Because utah is not on the diet list of utah

hybrid sierra
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So, are they more sophistacated than other dino's?

dire ridge
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Deino are cannibale and its ok. The problem is that deino vs deino is pretty much "the first to bite wins" and you cannot flee from another deino (adult vs adult)

hybrid sierra
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correct

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near impossible

dire ridge
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I still wish river bed were more fleshed and less barren

hybrid sierra
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I think the thing with the irritation of deino's is always wanting to not have to kill them or watch your back, its like I feel i have to kill them, because if I let up, they will attack me, and like you said, firts bite wins

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Also, when people team up, like people that know each other, you just lost a 5 hour creature.

lapis swallow
dire ridge
dire ridge
hybrid sierra
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I haven't lost a 1 v 1 yet either, but I id say I have fought about 50 scrubs so far too.

lapis swallow
dire ridge
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Oh my bad

hybrid sierra
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And i use alt bite its very good

dire ridge
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Yeah i know about that

hybrid sierra
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i have lost 3 v 1's though, although 2 of the 3 died, i think they hit each other as well as me at the same time 🙂

jagged jewel
mellow maple
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Okay a minor nitpick I keep seeing when it comes to bary feed back is the claim it has no crest. It does, it's just way too conservative.

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Which is weird for this type of game.

analog current
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Why is it possible for me to starve to death while running across nearly the whole map looking for ai

visual dust
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What % were you

arctic nest
dire ridge
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Omg i HATE the river bed, why there is SO MUCH places where the water is 50 cm deep

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Clearly the actual rivers are not a suitable place for Deino

lyric vault
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Not to mention that they can square up with just about anything that isn't in a large pack.

3 Utah's? Yeah he can deal with that.

A Carno? Hell yeah he has more health, weight and damage then them still even at 50%. So lang as there aren't two of them you should be fine.

You're really only ducked if there is a stego, but I believe you can outrun them.

Tennos are also not a huge deal so long as there ain't more than 2.

Yeah 50% Deinos can only really be dealt with by other larger Deinos or decent sized packs of certain dinos.

dire ridge
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@barren zephyr Deino cannibalism is intended

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Before this patch Deino was in the same nutrient category as Elite Fish

barren zephyr
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until they add foliage underwater theres nowhere else u can hide from deinos

dire ridge
barren zephyr
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literally got munched at deino 2 days ago as fresh spawn

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it feels slower than faster as juvi

dire ridge
barren zephyr
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well ig i never did that but once ur bitten ur gonna get tracked with ur bleed

dire ridge
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The river are so tiny, you can easily go on shore and run away

barren zephyr
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not even about juvi rivers are 2 ways passage you are most likely to meet a deino with a group basically game over

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and deinos it's the first one to bite wins

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for adults that is

dire ridge
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Agree

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I hate how the rivers, they need to do an overall of river and swamp, it doesn't fit Deinosuchus

barren zephyr
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I'm sure when underwater foliage along with beipei it comes with a wider river and a lake so but that will happen probably in another 10 years so

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unless we get a suprise with u6.5 troodon and beipei which they say is coming out this year

vital quarry
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@thorny lynx how do I express my love for your suggestion? ✅TI_Perfect doesn’t seem to even begin to cover it

sweet hollow
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@fleet helm first off carno Stam is good where it’s at it means you can’t play like and idiot during a fight and carno requires more skill now, second Utah’s pounce is perfect and sometimes it feels too good because it actually works now, and surviving as any carnivore other than carno is still very easy

vital quarry
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Seriously I could cry over current color options

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If they just added the legacy options + new options TI_Perfect TI_Perfect

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But no

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My darling Caramel who I payed money for drawings and commissions of? DEAD and never to come to evrima? I don’t think that’s something I should need to accept

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My rotisserie chicken based dryo? DEAD and never to come to evrima?

sweet hollow
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And another pattern

vital quarry
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There was nothing wrong with the legacy options. They could have kept those and added to them

sweet hollow
vital quarry
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Just make the legacy options available to all dinos (no herbie exclusive or carni exclusive) and then add the saturation and brightness sliders and any new colors they wanted

vital quarry
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The only one they really did a good job with colors for is Deino. And maybe I only think that because there were no previous options before

sweet hollow
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I think it might just be you that fell in love with your legacy dinos lol but Ik what you mean

vital quarry
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Nah I’ve talked to a lot of people who love their legacy patterns and colors. People pay artists to draw their legacy dinos. Like I did for my profile pic

vital quarry
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I guess you make this character in your mind and you get attached to them and enjoy playing their life cycles

vital quarry
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I named a few of my characters and I don’t want them to die with legacy isle

sweet hollow
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@tidal rose the boar prolly disappeared because for some reason when you take a chunk of boar the body despawns

tidal rose
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I don't remember taking a chunk, but uh, wow

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it was just me and another friend, but maybe

gritty terrace
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@whole atlas they aren't updating legacy

whole atlas
gritty terrace
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oh sorry nissread lmao

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yeah it's a big issue

whole atlas
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basically

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look at the graphics and look at the frames after

gritty terrace
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you also barly have a pc that's not bad for a game like this

whole atlas
gritty terrace
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it feels like they are't gonna bother with optimization till they do unreal engine 5 with nanite and shit, if so it's gonna be a while

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which sucks

whole atlas
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potentially just ruining the whole plans with evrima

trail mason
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@fleet helm id argue that surviving as a carnivore is more skill based

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the utah's pounce is the best its ever been, actually latching and not bugging most of the time. For carno you gotta actually hunt and kill other carnos for food

viscid mortar
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I have rtx 3050 and I'm playing like 10fps. Good job

visual dust
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Try deleting save folder could be corrupted save

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Or lowering resolution if it’s really high

sweet hollow
left storm
barren zephyr
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Das a nice virus link ya got there

limber hull
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thats not a virus link lmao

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its a link to the general feedback channel

quiet spindle
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Do something about stego tail swipes? The hit box is crazy on them

dire ridge
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@inland apex I agree and i can add to this with the current river system, adult Deino would probably stay near the ocean, because the river are too smal (depth and width)

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imo, Deino would simply go extinct (again) with that river system

violet magnet
limber hull
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so people dont spam i guess

violet magnet
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6 hours tho? TI_Wheeze

limber hull
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yea

azure cave
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lol

limber hull
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i honestly dont think its that much an issue TI_HypsiShrug

limber hull
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@steady lotus wtf is your feedback supposed to mean

limber hull
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okay lmao

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dont see the point but sure

lapis swallow
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You should delete your feedback

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Or you will get a timeout or ban

steady lotus
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lol

limber hull
lapis swallow
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They are gonna annilate him

limber hull
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im certain he is aware of this fact

jagged jewel
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he is

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dinos indeed didnt have radishes

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@frail stag thats an awful idea

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itll just be PoT 2.0 if that happens

arctic nest
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lmao makes revenge killing easier

jagged jewel
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exactly

arctic nest
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aah the god days on pot when you just kill someone than you see a eotrike aproaching

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im good tbh

dire ridge
arctic nest
dire ridge
arctic nest
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exactly

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the only way it would be good is if when you died you couldnt log into an adult dino of yours for half a hour or something

dire ridge
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Did it deleted his feedback ? i don't see it lol

arctic nest
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its on phase two requests

dire ridge
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ooooh

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omg another global chat request

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stop with that xD