#general-feedback-discussion
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cera is cooked
who knows
i expect it to be
Good tbh, cera has been dominating the meta since november
It being nerfed will be a much needed breath of fresh air
yes
What does the pensive clown emoji mean is it good
@molten lily unofficials arent dead, or filled to the brim. just try one out youll probably enjoy it.
the nerf will be large carnivores
cerato can actually be a scavenger
Nah, one vomit and the ceras win
cera is gonna be really weak
Carnivores cant graze, so its only a matter of time before they'll starve
comparing to rex and allo
like a rex is 2-3x the size
7-8x in weight
3-5x damage
the bile will make it more inconvinient, but they cant kill a rex
only option is to run
its a rex
stats of a deino on land
perhaps even better
you CANNOT bully a rex
ceratos dont screw with deinos
It all depends on how good of a turn it will have, along with the alt attack speed
well, its one of dondi's favorites
im hoping its op, as it really should be unmatched
impossible to win against unless you have a massive force
an apex
Rip to stego then
stego might get buffed cus rex just kills it
poor thing
probably buff running speed or dmg
I honestly don't think just switching servers is the best way to go about this issue, but alright.
No more combat mutations please
Throw them all into the trash. All the damage and speed boosters
And cong
any way to increase the number of players and or AI per server? Just curious, wanna play with a bunch of ppl but the 20+ long que everytime kinda sux š¦ Good game tho! š
Anyone know why we don't have as many servers?
I know we're missng at least two of the NA servers
i mean yeahbut complaining isnt either
Can someone post this : Tutorial section within the tab character menu with videos like this
@molten lily They are adding Elders which is gonna be a gameplay loop for reaching old age and dying then being rewarded in the next life
Elders are also stronger versions of the playables that are rewarded to players for "Taking care of your Dinosaur"
Not taking care of your Dinosaur will skip the Prime Elder stage and instead go to Frail Elder
Middir GOATED feedback except coding wise that would be such a big rework that probobly unviable
you make a mother hypsi proud 
Make a bug report then
it's desync problem
Yeaaaah happened to me a lot of times too
ban people with mcd internet lol
Its not a bug, its a system that automatically lets your victim go if their hitbox goes under the map, it prevent them from getting stuck there.
whatās mcd?
probably mcdonalds lol
lmaoo
#general-feedback message stegos plates take reduced dmg to it, why would it need this lmao
Tbh im only for this because it would make stego different than other prey in some capacity. At the moment it has no real ability to speak of outside of "i am tanky and swing tail" and an omni clinging to its plates looks incredibly goofy.
It wouldnt count as an ability but it would make it slightly more unique from other animals in that you cant get directly on its spine and have to account for that
@acoustic spruce legendary suggestion
@calm kelp those plates aināt all that they where mainly used for cooling off their blood aka temperature control
Kentro on the other hand
yes, but omni pouncing stegos back is ehh it just look bad and doesnāt make sense
Makes tones those plates arenāt hard they can be moved and many skeletons show them being straight up ripped off in multiple combats
alright, i guess itās not as bad as i thought, tho i would still want some kind of animation change for that, omni being inside those plates just looks bad
I can agree to it looking bad now stegos little cousin kentro on the other hand really only got 2 spots that a omni could reasonably find itās self and that the hind leg mount
i also expect herreras to just die if they try to pounce itš
That will be hilarious and deserved ngl
god please this
Imagine a herra impaled itself and now the kentro has a body stuck to it for a bit and an omnis just delicately trying to get the food and avoid getting stabbed lol
A playable that can straight up ignore Herrera existence sounds hilarious

tbh i donāt like an idea of one playable absolutely canceling ability of the other playable, but i still want herreras to die ehehe. but maybe make it so it can only pounce the head, but if it pounces any other part of kentro it gets impaled
Iām making the suggestion
hell yeah
Herrera 1 taps things under 600kg it having 1 thing that it canāt touch isnāt terrible
yes, but kentro is also probably going to be in its killing range, so i would love it to be high risk high reward thing, so you have to headshot it and if you do you do damage, if you accidentally pounce its body you die
Kentro is likely to be over 1T
Out of its killing range
Heāll dilo are barely in itās killing range and kentro will 100% be bigger than them
If kentro are under 1T theyāll be completely unplayable as they willl be slow and weak
well yeah, but not every kentro is going to be a fg, most of its life itās going to be in a range
eh why punish a playable by DEATH for using its ability correctly
Because itās 70% 1-3ft spikes
And your a idiot if your pouncing that
Etc why I said x% in #balance-feedback
As I donāt think a fresh spawn or youngling should be immune
But once they at a size where they got good long spikes
No excuses to be pouncing that
The head is a solid suggestion too
yea i like that
Updated suggestion
I mean kentro is still gonna be roughly cera sized
tbh i expect it to be like teno size or slightly smaller, but definitely be faster that the cera
tho we should honestly expect it to be any size xd
I doubt itāll be that fast
Based on size comparison Iād say itās roughly cera weight maybe slightly larger
hm maybe
@pine bone carno isn't nocturnal
you can place food on branches, peak
Yes. Herra can do that too and so can ptera 
i always thought they fell through the branches
and even if i knew herrera and stuff could, i wouldnt think you could do it with plants too lol
oh i wish i was at home to play some more hypsi lolš„¹
lol
Do we any of the stats of baryonx and austro
No, because they're not out yet.
baryonyx:
175kg
250 biteforce
29.5 top speed
Austro:
701kg
10 biteforce
77.8 top speed
Seems valid.
trust
i belibe
Has there been any talks about pachy buffs? This thing is terrible š
hm iād say i agree with everything except an austro, 701 sounds like an easy meal for gali, i would give it slight hp increase so it can at least fight off ššš
like 1.4t sounds fair
very fair
I'm sorry these are official numbers, they are set in stone now
oh :( well⦠š
@timber coral I believe stam effects especially ones as grievous as that would over tune cera and make it extremely weak while large stuff are on the precipice of being released
The numbers I used are an example, it could very well be 1% for activation or less, aswell as like 0,1% per second. And as for the big creatures, it can still keep the Juvie population in check, and as for the adults, I don't think cera should be able to take a rex anyway, allo maaaybe, but the others no way
It doesnāt need stam effects the bile and vomit effects need tweaking
i think it will make it so people will just run around the cera and make it lose all the stam constantly charging its bite
i think charge bite showering the cera to 38km/h is the best solution here
Stam wonāt change the underlining problem which is that vomit animation locks you and prevents you from running or fighting giving them 2 free hits
āshoweringā lol, major spelling mistakeš„
slowing down*
With body buff it should be able to make allo double take
My entire life
AHAHAHAš„¹
My original thought was that the drain puts the cera on a tighter timer sort of, which in turn prevents it from hunting things it's not supposed to, like stego. And I 100% agree that bile needs tweaking still, was just an idea that I had while rewatching planet of the apes for the 6th time lol
@eager socket
The stam would simply make charge biting useless and remove its main damage dealer as youād run out of stam way too fast for a move that broadcasts its activation to the world to be useful
Simply counter would be SHIFT W
Hmm.. true, I wouldn't say it removes it though, sounds a bit extreme
Shift W from 90% of the playables would now counter it ontop of the big ones just bait it out far easier and the longer you wait to try and bait out a attack the amount of stam burn compared to them just sitting there waiting
Oh yeah I forgot that the charge bite also charges damage, I get it now lmao
Remove cera alltogether, issue fixed
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Na removing animation lock and stop sprint from the vomit would make cera 10x less oppressive as smaller Dinoās wouldnāt insta die to buggy bites or 1 hit
My mind has been opened
Half the reason itās so annoying is cuz you get hit once and thatās another 1-2 free hits
Cuz you get full stopped
Yeah, I guess I had the wrong approach since I absolutely despise cera rn
It is very oppressive rn
Been taking a hiatus for the past month or so, cera being the main reason, with a lack of balance and new playables, but since I'm a normal human being I don't cry about it like some people
(not you)
So real
I honestly donāt find it all that bad but Iām a self proclaimed isle vet and have stopped caring about dying to anything short of hackers and mixpacks which I find annoying to no end
we just kill mixpacksš¶āš«ļø
I avoid officials for that specific reason, but my main issue is that it feels pretty dull to me rn, the main reason being is that there's nothing new as I said lol. I have like exactly 400 hours now and I love the game to bits, but right now it's just too boring for me
If all goes well weāll be seeing lots of new stuff consistently in the coming days
tbh evrima is everything but boring, maybe you should try to play something you never played before
@thorn root mostly desync
Also shadow slave peak fiction
Iāve played everything too much
Okay thank you. Also good to see another shadow slave enjoyer lol
do hypsi
I will when Iām not working
But I played Hypsi and dryo twice recently
hell yeah, let me and cwasso know, maybe weāll be free to play hypsi too
I've played every playable for at least 3 or 4 hours, except stego, ew 
3 or 4 is nothing!
maybe try to master the teno, itās pretty good, do some nesting, itās fun
maybe do some ptera lol
I did a full stego and deino grow shortly before my short break 3 days to be exact and I seek rest
I'm hooked on ready or not rn lol but I'm sure I'll come back soon, this game is like the good friend you don't like sometimes but still hang out with
Iām not a apex main man I aināt built for this
Apexes are boring asf ngl
For now once there are more itāll be more enjoyable
ahah fair
Yeah, I want my boy cheirus 
Iām just waiting on Alberto if my pf isnāt obvious enough
Iām a patient boy

saaame
I was trying to decipher your pfp lol thx

Click on my pf and see its background itās Albertoās concept art
Pure child neglect
Oh yeah, I'm oblivious to things around me most of the time so makes sense I didn't see it
Shout out to @tepid river for my pfp
Bro had his pfp made by an admin, high society type shi 
Commission was so worth it thou
True true
@stark anvil https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/1337149306205110363 I know this sounds weird but carnotaurus, since its an abelisaurid, is ment to be a small game hunter. Sure, if you get lucky you can kill a maia if youre in a pack, but its short snout and big speed is mainly for small game. Maybe the largest thing it can hunt when alone is tenonto.
yeah, pretty much
then why is it helpless against more than 1 troodon
saying like irl matters lol
what...
itās not
watched a pair of troodons kill 5 carnos on southplains
skill issue carnos ig
doesnāt even sound realistic, maybe only if they were afk
why is dibble on its diet instead of Dilo?
@desert arch was that you? admit it.
maybe because a dinosaur bull is not realistically ment to hunt other predators? i mean some predators hunt one another, but it really depends if it can jump it. A dibble is easier to chase rather than a dilo
lol
no i was a pt even I have killed them
how many?
few head pecks and they die its honestly an embaresment
iām not sure if it is, but even if it is not every dibble is fully grown, they donāt suddenly appear on diet menu when theyāre fg, you can kill the subs, the juvies
I just hate their statement
well okay, i know this sounds weird but in a niche of something getting hunted a dibble can be harder to kill rather than a sauropod
i mean.. at least they said something that makes sense, what you said donāt, sadly
but like in a way, that dibble can be way too quick and armored rather than a big sauropod you can easily take a piece out of and run if youre fast enough. Though, you wouldve needed to be careful for not getting trampled or slashed by its tail.
I was about to send another message but some silly catboy who is also my friend sent me a message
iām cat boy š«¦
while playing the hit game the isle
it was not xD
The sauropods carno hunted were medium sized
I was playing galli ^^
Probably Atchiett and Kilographic
not very large though not small either
Theyre monsters too
still, a less agile thing that can be hunted easier than an armoured agile little tank.
atchiett is crazy good too
whatās funny is that sheās a lot better as solo troodon
still makes no sense to me ^^; but nope, wasn't me or kilo either
or the story is made up
omg my discord is laggingš„š„š„
Okay, yeah, but most people will sit around and hang out in the same hot spots. There should be some given reason to want to explore, and a reward for those who DO explore
cheesy is a he confirmed?
what are u truly
i ask that same question to myself all the time

I didn't quite like their statement saying "since it's an abelisaur" though you're right as accuracy does NOT belong in the isle. The reason carnotaurus is a small game hunter is because the devs think it'd fill the niche in their unrealistic roster well
so catfluid? get it
call me cheesy, i though you learned that by now xd
@modern tide they are called elders not parents. Why on earth would they take an interesting (like it or not) thing like elder and make it exclusive to people who like nesting. Why shouldnāt someone who maintained a healthy diet throughout their life, but was playing solo, be flat out excluded.
yes, the carno is small game hunter because the devs made it small game hunter
Ty ty itās something that needs to be added and most other games have them!! Also Iāve been playing for a while and Iām barely learning how to actually use these mechanics
Massive learning curve per Dino
You get used to them my favourite thing to do is spawn in and start clicking stuff
Depending on expected mechanics
this makes sense to me biologically, since presumably different dinosaurs have different scents, and more dinosaurs would make more intense scents.
@modern tide That would just make unlocking Elders for certain species pretty much impossible, imagine trying to nest as Dryo considering how many people play Dryo, and now you have to hope they are also a different gender
And getting them all the way to full adult would be too difficult for certain species
@stark anvil a nearly 50 km/h 1300 kg dinosaurs fighting with a brawler beast at 3000 kg.... ah yeah that seems like a fair battle how?!
or a brawler at the 1300 kg but only like 42(?) km/h lol
And what does the dibble do? It can't fight, can't run
it topples over for the SUPERIOR CARNIVORE duh
the silly grass eater is weak and stupid 
Finally a good suggestion about the cure to mixpacking #general-feedback message. If the mixpackers are so avoided that they have no prey to hunt, their carni part just starves.
not even 2 dilos taking down my sub teno (close as hell)
fights like these leave me shaking ong
couldnt even get me final venom stage, tsk tsk
anyways
imagine we have a dino with some sort of effect like venom or something that kills prey by starving them to death slowly
would be cool fr
Literally ceratosaurus:
yeah but cera doesnt have the tools to do it efficiently
i think mono would be good at it, because it can keep tracking its prey over long distances of time with the stench, and we could give it some sort of salivary effect that speeds up their prey's metabolisms
nice lol, good skills. i have no idea how the kick at the beginning of the video didnāt land
fr i was confused
brain death?
what
i think their venom glands broke or smt
Mono is gonna be so good
I LOVE CC LOCKING
the dilos
Why Carno specifically š
AHAHAHA
oh no, they didnt rlly get a chance to get me at the final stage of venom
they did at the end, but hallucinations are bugged atm and deal no damage
they where still rly bad players tbf
yeah, they ran straight into my kicks at the start
they couldve taken their time instead of rushing you like that
the second dude SAW it happen to his friend and went right in to do it aswell
baiting and headshot
it adds SO MUCH to the game, like LAYERS OF SKILL FRFR
they did track me for a while after i escaped them the first time, then i harassed them first when they came across MY lake, and they went for it after
couldve tried baiting me better and not recklessly running in there
cwasso did a good job, average teno would be dead lol
Bait tail slam, run around, get a head or body shot, gtfo, and repeat basically
Not if they kept running into the tenos ass
99% of all the dilos/ceras like that
another example of how people play this game
But why
WHO KNOWS LOL
i was fighting a fg carno as 400 kg teno, almost killed it lol, it bled out after the fight tho. but the funniest thing is i died like 30 seconds before the body wipe on petits lol
poor guy didnt even know how to pounce
if that was me, the things i could do
dude died to death
do people just not take the time to read long feedback suggestions or what
i killed his bigger brother before that
failed to avenge his buddy
i thought 2 calling after i kill something is my thing lol, you stole it
whats the most checkmarks y'all have seen on a feedback suggestion
i felt bad ok
OH NO
WHY DO I KEEP COMING IN HERE THINKING ITS ISLE DISCUSSION BROOOO
THIS IS SO ANNOYING
bap shoo xD
@full flower #general-feedback message It Do 
Quickest feedback turn around, they already implemented your request, the white bars between north and south are east and west
@full flower it does show east and west. You can also see north east, south east, north west and south west. Look at the lines carefully, they do move but look at how they move.
@eternal moss
Personally, the advantage dinos get from mixpacking is the "buff". The hypsi benefits from the power of the stego, and the stegos benefits from blinded foes, etc. I don't think it makes sense to add a literal buffs. Also, a lot of people already mix pack, so it isn't like something that needs encouraging (because, as I said, you get a benefit of covering weaknesses)
well like carnivores wouldn't get buffs from hanging around herbivores, but i do see what you're saying
How would yall feel about more accurate dinosaurs? Like feathers on raptor, troodon, etc. I feel like feathered raptors would be wonderful. Could even help with camo.
Even how biep isnāt even semi aquatic. I feel like there should be an actual semi aquatic instead of just making a dinosaur semi aquatic. I love biep, but I donāt feel itās right having it that inaccurate
Utahraptor (with feathers) is planned, is why the thing we currently have was renamed to Omniraptor. Also, it's a sci-fi horror game. It doesn't need to be accurate.
Thatās why I say I feel it should be one way, I know it doesnāt have to be. Iām gonna love it either way, I just wish there were tweaks. Also, I didnāt know feathered Utahraptor was planned! Thats pretty cool. Iām excited for that future
that sounds like a neat idea
#general-feedback message this is so good
as an option for customization yes or as a mutation
If dinosaurs were accurate to their real-life counterparts most of the roster would be redundant
@twilit snow surely weasalgops would be a burrow raider
Sure? Didn't originally think of that, but it makes sense
@acoustic spruce thatās already a thing when your skin texture/pattern starts growing in, your creature ends looking very vibrant
#general-feedback message the only thing iām concerned about is hypsis running around and infinitely spitting on something without any consequences, they just graze and spit and just follow the random player, it being slower than cera and teno kinda helps to avoid those situations
but idk really, maybe just change how spit works
itās rather annoying when something makes you blind and you canāt even do anything about it
btw this screenshot is so freaking cute omg š«š„¹
This is a sci fi not a historical game, so im not very concerned about the accuracy of a species. That can certainly be added as a mod down the line but these are creatures developed as experiments with unexpected mutations or behaviors. (Herra)
Baby skins while a well intentioned idea would just potentially cause legal problems copying something from another game as PoT has that. They already start without their adult markings (babies have their own unique patterns they grow out of) and honestly its nice to be able to see the parents color combos instead of being forced into one uniform color and look which would not make sense. Foals and fawns are born with baby coats that they shed out of but these are reptiles and not mammals. Animals also see color very different to us. An orange tiger is green to Deer hence its camo. A baby is not bright at all; it is super vulnerable and thus as camo as possible.
I know exactly where this is taken from and now I feel like a nerd xD
Lol
@vital laurel to be honest hard ware banning them would make it insanely hard to come back as theyād have to know how to mask hardware ID which 90% of these script kittens donāt know how to do
yes and and having to go ask your parents about chaining the wifi IP might raise some questions too

Bro is the villain to villains
@vital laurel We'd love to, but Steam outright prohibits it
Account-based bans are all we can do for people who get around the anticheat

Why is steam being cringe
Are you sure? I tried to google but cant find any info on it
do you have a link?
I do not
i asked deepseek, gemini, chatgpt and tried looking for banning policies, i think you might be tripping, especially as the devs has never said thats why the don't use IP bans as far as i can see
S tier feedback pret
IIRC it's because we don't use VAC, I'd have to ask Punch about it
Hmm
so if they used VAC they could IP and hardware ban as well?
Potentially, though I believe there's other reasons we can't hardware/IP ban
valve/devs need to be more clear about that cus like, if they cant combat hackers with these inconveinsing and limiting tools its a handicap and players ask about such ban methods often so having a clear answer to why would be good
They probably have a good reason for it. Maybe it impacts sales or something
So no good reason but money
that's the first thing that comes to mind, I didn't say that's the actual reason
hence the MAYBE
I'm not a massive platform owner, I don't know what comes along with it
I canāt think of a good reason beyond greed tbh
Sense as long as they arenāt hardware or IP banned they can keep repeat buying the game on new accounts
@acoustic spruce That horn would be nasty to get hit by
#general-feedback message just pin the baby
it doesn't need more buffs
not solo omni at least
me if i was wrong
wait where'd it go
I agree. While I do solo omni games a lot, it shouldn't be balanced around solo play. It is still a pack hunter in reality.
It needs buffs to make its strengths not ruin pack play more than anything.
idk probably deleted it because small dino players instantly downvote anything related to improving omni
I don't think so. I have a feedback post about omni from just the day before yesterday that got zero downvotes. It's all about what you are suggesting and why.
@hybrid stratus that's cause there's a speed multiplier not just height
If you're running off a small cliff you'll take a lot more damage than gently walking off a slightly higher cliff
It's not a bug
With that said, theyve apparently said they're gonna make some adjustments to it
@covert tiger its so stupid tho. the fact that its a feature not a bug doesnt make it better. i shouldnt just instantly die because i ran off of a 2m cliff with full health
Yes
Hence the second part of my msg
ah okay. it felt like you were for this "feature" so i was kinda questioning that. sorry then
@fathom moth #general-feedback message there is already a weight limit for sanc
Whatās the limit might I ask
I believe 400kg
there is no hard limit. its species-specific
Dryos canāt enter sanctuaries, and theyāre 130kg
I didn't say they could, I thought that most playables lost the abilty to enter sanctuaries when they got to 400kg or hit subadult. I'd seen you a lot in the server so I figured you would have already known about the subadult part
and new accounts arent even expensive since steam still allows you to localize to an area that has much lower costs
@zealous cape cerato will feel needed once the roster fills up
Yup
@lyric cosmos THERE WAS A STREAM WHEN????
because omni is too good atm, if anything it could use some nerfs
good stuff
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#general-feedback message thank you for this one
this is so true
deino doesn't need "great" night vision but everything else is solid
@hardy sonnet The game takes place in the modern era
i donāt honestly even care about the deino, itās basically the only semi-aquatic in the game, itās not like itās in a huge disadvantage with the current nightvision
@urban flax thats actually really damn good
Words of a man who has never played omni
omni is horrible rn š
Pounce is broken right now
but not OP-broken, literally broken
i used to main omni back in U5.5 LMAO
Wow really ? I really thought everyone would hate this idea
āOmni is too good atm!!ā Proceeds to say his experience of it is from a few years back LMAO
i never said that my experience from years ago is the reason it should be nerfed, you claimed that iāve never played it which wasnāt true
i still play it from time to time but its boring abusing a overtuned playable
RMB to win aināt my playstyle sorry
Playing an omni in ā25 is losing a pack to any carnivore larger than you and then being told your dino is op by Herra players on dc
what
@gritty cove Just because cera wins certain fights doesn't mean that carno should. There's no "fair". Carno is supposed to be a small game hunter while cera is a body bully and a big game hunter. They obviously should and do perform differently in combat against even the same animals.
I do agree that carno could be better, it really isn't in a good spot rn. The grow time was probably just overlooked by mistake.
3 decent omnis at the game can wipe most things
Sure they can
Three great omni players in vc can wipe most things
But if you use that mentality when judging what is balanced youāre being dishonest
Especially knowing thatās not how it goes on officials
cera is not supposted to be a hunter at all
It should still be able to hunt like any predator
you canāt balance the game around bad players lol
Its niche is NOT hunting. It's a corpse bully! imo cera should be more defensive than it currently is. That doesn't mean it can't hunt at all but shouldn't mess with larger animals unless they're hurt
so true, we always need to think about the potential
i did that earlier today
we do that sometimes
Woah
the mods can chill today
cera should have a very long food timer as it should move around the map and try to find ongoing fights so it can finish off or bully off the winner
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You can't really force cera into its niche without butchering it. It will be forced by something bigger
i wanna join omni discussion with saying that itās bleed is insane and should be nerfedš
the amount of bleed a little rat deals to the 1.6t teno is insane, few tap pounces and i lost 30% blood
you can
like literally every other playable in the roster
Yeah like carno. Look how that turned out
just buff its defence and nerf its offence when not at a body
carno is fine...
@desert arch did you test troodons bleed btw? i think it does more than it used to do before, got pounced few times and lost 10% of blood
maybe they nerfed the raw damage and gave it more bleed damage?
"carno is so bad carno is so bad" Just try to get better at it
Yeah it's fine but it could be better
It's even funny. You told me that Cerato is simply a better predator than Carno, so everything is fair, but when you were told that Cerato is a scavenger, you say that even so, she should have the ability to hunt (and Carno does not) You are cerato main, right?
this ^^^^^^^^
powerpoint af clip
it's literally doing well
Tap charge is not a good playstyle imo
carno is very good, doesnāt really need any buffs outside of small tweaks and qol
Yes but it could be better
Carno is more than capable of hunting. And no, I'm a herrera main
it's supposed to be a defensive brawler
And it is
It's very good at defensive
Catching fast prey, small prey.
It's good in defence, endurance and big game
incorrect. If you bite smaller animals once they vomit and are basically stunned
and you can easily finish them off
You have to catch the first
cera should be a "don't mess with me, you'll regret it" playable
and not a "I am great at everything" playable
hyenas are apexes and the African ecosystem differs from gateway's fictional ecosystem
And?
to be fair it's mostly the fault of the "I wanna play the strongest animal and murder everything" kind of players
Yes
Cera is overtuned rn that's why people play it
Hopefully it gets some tweaks soon (the whole roster will get some tweaks to fill their niches in the ecosystem)
No, they play it because carno is worse now. When carno was stronger people played cera a lot less despite it before basically unchanged besides the bacteria buff (bacteria should be nerfed though)
I like ceratosaurus and its niche. Carno used to be the most popular thing as it was the strongest animal until cera dropped
And it was still very popular before the rework
and why did so many people play carno? Because it used to be the strongest. Cera is currently the strongest carnivore but once allo drops cera will have very few players
incorrect
current cera can body diablos which is most likely a challenge for even allos
It can't alone
cera has no problem to punch above its own weight even without the body buff
Unless the dibble is extremely bad
if the cera is patient it definitely can
Most things do that
For example?
Raptor, troodon, dilo, herrera
Omni? dilo? troodon? they're all pack hunters who are built to hunt larger animals
Even carno sometimes
And ceras also hunt big things in packs
Cerato should just fill its niche and be less of a hunter
Why can't it fill its niche while also being a good hunter
But I mean the devs did say that the roster will get some tweaks to fill their niches in the ecosystem
because hunting isn't primary niche
it can go toe-to-toe with other animals
as shown in the concept art
One guy wrote "it's not Carno who's bad, you're bad" without reading the post past the first sentence, although I wrote in plain text that the players swapped roles in battles and everyone had a lot of gaming experience. I don't claim that my opinion is the ultimate truth, I just left a review of my gaming experience, while trying to answer some questions in advance and in the end I got this. It's hard to call this a discussion, so I don't want to participate in it, sorry.
Cera should be a migratory scavenger who moves around the map and potentially bullies animals off corpses, scavenges or hunts smaller or injured animals aka an opportunistic hunter
I havent specifically, but from the couple fights we did it felt the same. Would be a dumb af buff though imo, why make it a worse mini omni š
current cera is balanced the way so it can fight the current large herbivores, it basically takes allos spot.
the game needs some kind of strong carnivore right now and cera now does what allo should do.
once allo is in the game we wonāt need such strong cera anymore, there will be an animal designed for killing.
i would rather want cera to stick to its niche instead of being what it is right now
How could you...š„ š
It's not that I want cera to get nerfed cause I hate cera or anything. I just want cera to fill its niche and actually be an interesting animal
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i agree ššš
but i still want to believe they will compensate the nerf. and they said theyāre planning to do some troodon rebalancing so we should expect something

Troodon buffs next HT better go hard or Im becoming a hypsi mainš¤
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I can't find it in the devblog but I believe the devs said there are going to be some changes to the whole roster so they all stick to their niches
hear me out
do you remember omni being in a bad state a while ago? look how strong the made it with grapple.
do you remember the old āweakā dilo? look what they did to it, you die from one bite during nighttime.
remember old cera? they made ceratosaurus rex out of it.
troodon was suffering for years and its about to become something absolutely unhinged, trust
Nice argument, too bad small dinos in the isle will never be good
herrera:
Herrera isnt a tiny tier
šhypsi:
its barely bigger than a dryo right
dryo is 120
130
WOW itās huge
#general-feedback message erm no.
letās reward players for staying alive and fighting good by nerfing them permanently
Officials are a mix of skill levels and in my experience donāt use mics. So you canāt use the argument ā3 decent omnisā because it just doesnāt stand up
Gotta take into account that omnis are only potentially powerful when theyāre in packs, therefore youāve gotta facilitate its balance around that.
Pls... just make the Servers Bigger...or get more...plsssssss..... Eu Servers are just Full all the Time š„²
Because it is only good in packs, it is the biggest sufferer of bad optimisation, with pounce and pin suffering from poor hitreg, jumping on other omnis etc
@visual star what if...hear me out...what if...there isn't any terrestrial carnivore that actively hunts the larger herbivores at the moment? Deino has to stick to the water but can take out anything if it has the chance to do so
Carno and cera aren't supposed to hunt maia, diablo and stego and that's why they are physically too weak
what if
And having strong herbis is a good thing
People love playing strong animals and it's nice to see herbis roaming the island
And it provides a challenge for their predators
Also you can most definetly hunt herbivores LOL
how does one conclude that cera needs a buff lol
And packs can take on lone dibbles
@visual star all of those herbivores u listed are meant to be combat oriented as they lack the necessary speed to evade similarly sized or smaller predators
@visual star Have you never fought Ceratos? Those things can be monsters in any remotely competent hands
they more than double their bite force for free
Me and my buddies were in a 3 pack of ceras and we managed to take down 3 grown dibbles. They might not of been the best dibbles, but hunting herbies is definitely possible. I agree
We need bigger servers 
@visual topaz you can already type /unstuck in game, no need for a respawn button
#general-feedback message it is not, an apex carnivore should be hard to grow
question: how can i activate the Mutation "Prolific Reproduction" ?
@gentle briar You do know that Prolific Reproduction is a secret mutation, don't you?
Yes, I know, but no matter how I try, I will bring 5 individuals from a nest to the Juvie stage as described.
Or I 5 nests
and bring 1 young animal each to Juvie level... it doesn't work, I can't get this mutation unlocked.
I would just like a clear statement from the devs about what exactly I have to do to finally get this mutation.
Devs can't really be serious that there would be 5 nests with 5 young animals
With one dibble, for example, 30 young animals
and no one is allowed to log out or die.
Can I swipe and log out myself etc... it's just not well defined and that's extremely frustrating
Have the devs even said anything or done anything to try and fix the ridiculous queue times? There's so many people complaining in feedback channels yet it hasn't even been addressed after months..
@bleak agate why would u downvote my suggestion?š
Feeling like a hater right now ššš
Oh what a joy
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@umbral elk cerato group limit has always been 3
itās just that they constantly megapack because itās so easy to sustain themselves

it is, I was in a group of 4 a couple days ago
I could have sworn it was always set to 3 members since itās supposed to be aggressive towards its own kind, making them have a naturally low group number
I guess I just never experienced being in a 4 cerato group
You may be thinking of Carno limit, but random cera arenāt going to be grouping into 4 anyway, itās just a convenient way to get your next snacks name above their head 
If 3 strange cera approach you without saying a word and 2 call you, itās just for free tracking
It's also making Queue times on AU stupid because NA players are stuck in 70+ queues.
#general-feedback message
are u serious? remove elite fish from the adolt deino diet? so crocs can't survive at all lol

i mean, you can still eat it right?
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now you won't unreasonably benefit from killing the defenseless ai thoooooooo /j
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ceras, carno, dilo, omni eating deer and goats getting a diet such:
didn't say I didn't hate those (I do)
theyāre also not 8t tho
#general-feedback message i kinda like the idea, but i think that base stats such as speed/damage/hp etc should not change, it should be something else
speed is fine for the galli or carno tho
theyāre the fastest anyway
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Tyty 
@vivid mason i feel the weight, speed and damage buffs feel unnecessary tbh. Not a fan of arbitrarily trying to make a dinosaur more conventionally powerful rather than leaning to what makes it unique
everything else is pretty good, just not a fan of those stat changes
Which ones specifically, even the weight changes?
Hmm how so? Itās barely smaller than a troodon, and the dense plumage would probably add to its defense
Those stats are really low intentionally just because it used to be insta grow, but imo now that it is not, it deserves much better stats.
With its 20kg it gets pinned and killed by fresh spawn Omnis, dies to troodon RMB before it even plays a pin animation (drops dead at the second)
Its speeds are so low it canāt outrun a cerato
Itās biteforce is so pathetic it canāt kill a zero growth dibble before the baby dibble kills it
And all of this is based on true experience
i dont see how any of those things are bad. If it can climb, it can escape ALL of those threats easily, plus, it's small enough to easily just zip into the forest and disappear
small size = high stealth
with the foliage that covers the forest, you can vanish in a blink
it doesn't need to run faster than a cera, or fight a juvi dibble, or survive a troodon/omni. it has the tools to escape off the getgo
even current hypsi can easily survive all of these threats through merely disappearing into the underbrush
True, but itās been known that hypsi is a worse climber than Herrera, and imo it should atleast be able to run faster than a cerato, or be able to fend off hatchlings. Its weight shouldnāt be so low that it gets 1 shot by fresh spawn Herreras, and itās biteforce shouldnāt be so bad it needs several bites to kill a fresh spawn Herrera
This is all based on my information, but thereās also no reason not to give it more speed, weight and bf because it deserves them, and canāt really hurt or affect anything that bad otherwise
I get where youāre coming from, but hypsi is absolutely harmless, and itās already awful stats for no reason, not like increasing its stats would do any harm to anything.
And besides, hypsi hype will most likely die out in a week after climb because of how bad itās stats already are
When nested you require parents to feed you through the hatchling phase. You physically cannot eat adult food, so this would be a death trap.
if all people care about is stats, then hypsi will never be for them
they really need to bring back the old stamina x_x
just sitting here starving to death cause i cant regen stamina while walking
Do you know the stamina thresholds?
Then just keep it above 60% š¤·āāļø
unfun mechanic
make it how it was, it was good before
was anyone really thinking we needed worse stamina?
we got better stamina/run times but worse regenerations
how people like the old system is beyond me, iirc carno had a run time of 45 seconds LOL
yep
#general-feedback message i wanted that for so long
i asked like at least 3 times in general feedback, this is feature iām most exited for now
the old one is awful
Ah, this one got plenty of downvotes, as expected
#general-feedback message
and I'm not saying each playable needs 3 distinct strains with unique abilities, but a general strain like magna could return. It offers a balanced increase in stats and increased hunger drain, but isn't starving all the time
so uh... elders. you want elders. because all magna is, is a worse version of elders
a "general strain" that all animals have access to is effectively just elders, especially the way it's described in that feedback
a slightly stronger, better version of an existing dinosaur on a time limit that EVERYTHING has access to? elders. Strains are entirely unnecessary for making that happen.
(also magnas are exceptionally lame and should not make a comeback)
kinda self explanatory lol
āThere is no war in Ba Sing Sae"
anyone else think that deinosuchus should be buffed to match stego once apexes release? so its not such a pushover when comparing to other large dinosaurs like spino or rex, but still can be outmatched
What is wrong with it?
Did you press X?
@violet vessel Don't add whole other strain just give everything the current ones. I agree with you about that it's either all or none.
Mate, turn the volume down in settings.
That would be a lot of work to give every creature 3 strains. I'd like to have that if it were possible, but I don't think the devs are willing or able to do that. It's a ton of work and likely a nightmare to balance.
@violet vessel Your suggestion basically just sounds like elders
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Is there any talk about more CA servers I think itās a good idea if possible with the ques getting longer and longer
The way I understand it is that elders are a slight power spike that also rewards dying naturally. My general strain idea is a much more significant power increase and afterwards there's no rewards that elders get. They are similar, but just in the sense that it's increased power post adulthood.
@covert tiger i think also if they reduce the hitbox of a raptor when pouncing would be a pretty good change imo, it doesnt make sense that its easier that u hit the omni pouncing that the prey its being pounced, even if u not aim at the omni.
and troodon also need atack speed increase its as slow as omni which doesnt make sense
justice for troodon and omni š
They don't need to give everything all three strains some could get one, some two, but every playable should get at least one
Tissoplastic hypsilophodon 
Hyper hypsi would be more ridiculous
It's so big it can survive 1 omni bite (but not 2)
#general-feedback message my reaction to that information:
I feel like suggesting hyper quetz eventually because Tapwing made such an amazing concept art
Having a flyer that can actually terrorize mid tiers or even some apexes would be peak
I don't understand the people that keep saying the rain is ear-bustlingly loud to the point they cant hear themselves speak or think. You guys know you can turn down volume on computers right?? Why do you have the volume up so high to the point where its causing distress
I see people video that there night vision looks so good with white and gray but mine has a green outline and really doesn't show anything unless I do a certain angle but it's not really that good
I also use a deinosuchus
Thats the old nv
its been reworked since
Do you have to select it itās still the green outline for me
How done get the new one
You already have the new one
@desert arch said it was the old one I have lol
He meant the videos you saw had the old NV
you cant get the old one anymore
Haven't played in awhile, why did they get rid of all the NA servers?
Damn so I'm pretty much blind at night lol ok
There are still like 3 NA servers
Yeah I saw but there used to be 5
But they always in queue
@deft sorrel Your feedback should be submitted as a bug report me thinks. Assuming you haven't also done that already. That's a good one for a report.
@vivid mason I upvoted the suggestion because hypsi really needs SOMETHING, but they shouldn't implement all of your suggestions together. For example, if they're faster AND more agile, they probably shouldn't get the cone spit that is hard to get rid of. I could see it being used to troll. But either/or would help hypsi greatly. Actually, it would be nice if movement was decoupled from the camera while aiming spit. Eg, wasd acts relative to the character's body orientation when RMB is held to aim. This would allow a player to be able to turn the camera around and aim spit, while still being able to zig zag and avoid hits
However, like most alt-bites, to actually spit the hypsi should have to play an animation where they spin around, which should briefly slow them down or lock them in place? I don't know
thatās the only part i didnāt like, hypsi being faster that 40km/h makes it ultimate troll dino, just run around your prey for hours and spit on it without consequences
which is awful
@urban flax I like the diet suggest you posted earlier! Suggestions for herbivores-- like carnivores, the herbivores have specialties:
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frugivore - fruits are extra nutritious, but browse (leaves/bark/etc) provides less nutrition
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ruminant (or folivore?) - you have a stomach well adapted to extracting as much nutrition out of tough starch and fiber as possible. Browse (leaves, bark, and maybe grazing?) gives extra nutrients, but fruit gives less.
There's also granivore (eats seeds) and nectivore (eats nectar), but I don't think any current dino fits these as 1) they're usually smaller animals, at least in the Cenozoic and 2) I don't think we have any diet food plant models that could be used for either.
Another way to separate herbivores would be to give them different abilities. For example, maybe teno can dig up roots, but Maia can't. But Maia can reach way up to the tops of bushes/trees to grab fruits. Kinda an extension of how only pachy could knock coconuts from trees and open them back in Spiro. then just place the plants in different areas so that it keeps problematic pairs from interacting. It could even be paired with a growing cycle mechanic, where plants in different areas start their growing seasons at different times to move herbivores around the map. Where more food or nutrients are provided and plant nodes regrow (respawn) more quickly while they are in season
Yeah. It would be okay if it was that fast IF it required super precise aim for spit and the spit was easy to remove without long-term effects, like in live; however, I think it would be awful to pair it with upgraded spit. I actually would prefer if spit got an upgrade though because it would make hypsi more unique/have its own niche, without being a smaller version of galli.
Don't get why people want reworks on Dinos nobody cares about, when they're struggling enough with the ones people DO play.
Because the fact that nobody cares/plays them is because they struggle so much. As much as the issues with Omni and a lot of the others are annoying, they're not severe enough that people are unwilling to play them. Unlike hypsi, beipi, etc
But would improving them actually impact the game at all? There's only so much time that can be devoted to these things and the game already has severe feature and scope creep.
I agree with the scope creep. The isle is trying to do it all, and struggling to excel in any one area. As for impacting the game, I have a couple thoughts.
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the isle is loosely food chain based. A lot of the dinosaurs have dryo on their diet, but because nobody plays dryo, they have issues getting diets. More broadly, if you don't make the lower levels of the food chain fun to play and survivable, the upper tiers will starve without AI.
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it would be kind of a waste of development time for these creatures to have full models/animations, and just ignore them? I'd prefer if they fully fleshed out the current roster and actually scrapped some of the future roster (especially some that are only concept art) to limit scope creep
I doubt this will be heard from any of the Devs
Im not even sure how many people have already stated this in the GF channel but-
Can we get more NA servers? Its been an extremely big issue for around a year and a half now or ever since the que system actually worked
It sucks having to wait near hours to MAYBE get into a server after dealing with college AND a Job for the entire day.
Would it be too hard just to add 1 or 2 more NA servers? I mean you literally have official servers that are EMPTY for the entirety of the day. And the majority of us dont have the ping to just rely on EU servers to compensate for the que wait..
For the love of a dinosaur game PLEASE listen to your community
I cannot count How many times I see people asking for more servers. And yet no matter how far I search. I dont see a single dev or Dondi explaining why he cant make that happen
Just posted on this. Thank you.
I saw it but it poofed, Did you remove it?
that's extremely suspicious how it just randomly disappeared then
Welp š¤·āāļø Ive already voiced my opinion. Best we can do is wait at this point
@dawn hound The devs are planning to add a feathered Utahraptor as a separate species from omniraptor
yeah in the next hundred years or so
Probs
I TALKED TO A FAMOUS YOUTUBER!!!
@forest temple the devs allowed global chat on official servers for a stress test/horde test
It didnāt last 3 days.
It was so horrible and completely ruined the feeling of the game
damn
#general-feedback message @vivid mason HELL EYAH I AGREE
@glass sundial itās a dozen people working on this game bro š
Also a little less than 5 years being fair since legacy shouldnāt count in their current development
The last major update was over a month ago
Just look at big games like fortnite. It takes more than a month for them to add a new season
Mhm
They added Maia so recently really
And this team is so much smaller than many studios out there
At least we arenāt like HK fans awaiting Silksong
Or like, Saurianā¦
why š
because omniraptor isnt utahraptor. its a JP raptor and unapologetically so
it will NEVER be realistic, that's the idea, so rather than readjust its kit, visuals and sounds to be more realistic, they superfictionalised it in name and added utahraptor to the roster
i dont want it to be feathered realistically depicted thing, and i am not saying its an utahraptor. Im saying it could have the jaws of a realistic utahraptor, and a realistic dromeosaur posture, and it having some sord of fuzz similiar to dilo but different.
it just being a jurassic park ripoff is not gonna do it
It's always been like that
like you say it being a JP raptor is "not gonna do it", but thats exactly what it was meant to do
wait for actual utahraptor for actual utahraptor
if you make it more realistic, you have this semi-realistic, semi-JP abomination. That's why they have both
isnt that like gonna get a copyright strike?
its not referred to as velo, it doesn't use the exact model or sounds
a similar design is not copyrightable
as much as some companies wish it was
Besides, JP raptor cannot be a copyrighted design as it was supposed to be an accurate depiction of deinonychus at the time
Indominus rex, however, can be (and is) copyrighted as it is a fully fictional creature
yup, which is why we have strains which are entirely unique
to be fair
the model isn't really that JP like
idk its pretty damn similar, just more colour and less gross clammy skin
eh..the skull is way longer and it has overall more bulk
it's way larger than the JP rex too
(The head)
it is
specially the jaw, itās the only part i hate
i just donāt like how it looks like, not because itās not paleo accurate, but because i just donāt like it
it is definitely JP inspired
even the calls are JP inspired
but it isn't straight up the JP rex
very
Personally, I think evrima rex with lips would be perfect. I really like the model
i just donāt like this.. ofc this is an exaggeration, but you got an idea
yes
Cause Utahraptor is goat (idk I like the idea, sue me)
at least i am glad thats the case
#general-feedback message roster is locked in
#general-feedback message Drowning and cliffs are a thing yk
- the roster is large enough
- gigantoraptor is the worst animal to ever exist
No species deserves extinction but gigantoraptor
Did giganto steal your lunch money or smth
Dont worry, I feel the same about Magyarosaurus
Psure you have to provide an in depth explanation for the dino you propose to be added. Otherwise youll likely wait for it to be modded down the line.
that seen fair. The other raptor kill you. He pounce the size in which you were attach.
the whole point of acting in group is to be synchronize , not pouncing like crazy without consequences .
same will happen if two carno spring towards you from different sides. you jump as an raptor and both carno will hurt each other. Fair and square .
To be fair, Rexy is a pensioner here
thats a rarity this is common
Similar thing happened to me the other day, I was on the right side of a Carno, Pachy hit it on the left, I got knocked off and broken, same happened with my pack mate, he was on the back of the Carno, Pachy hit it from the front, he got knocked off and sent flying
would be nice to have an extra goal, nothing like Payday 2 level of achievements ofc. but like reaching max growth as each dino, joining a pack, potentially kill count tracking and a target of like 250 kills on the isle evrima etc etc
and maybe some niche ones here and there
@acoustic spruce That's been a thing for months
Yea
Hold on then let me take that bit out
I REALLY LIKE THIS IDEA!! IDK WHY IT CANT ALREADY
it can
oh wait nvm

okay but like it can already do pretty much that
grab onto a wall, regen stamina, fly to the top and perch on a branch
like it already has that capability
it doesn't really need to climb
unlike herrera, it can actually regen while clinging, which is the point of it
clinging is a safe but slow way to regenerate stamina
slow ?
the stamina regeneration for its latch is actually really good lmao
Idk if itās placebo effect or what but itās quite fast
@compact timber We're getting a full suite of paleo calls, not sure if it'll use the tap/hold system though
omg I wouldn't be able to decide between paleo or default š³
does the tap hold system currently exist on any dinos?
I don't think it's functional atm
sorta? doesn't really do anything other than make ur broadcast slightly louder
u can see it thru the loudness icon that shows up at the right bottom
paleo calls? whats this?
for rex
oh right i see
paleo calls are more accurate rex calls, full of gurgling, search up "Most Scientifically Accurate T. Rex Sounds" in youtube for more information
yeah, just never heard them called that tbf. did find it interestin that they're believed to sound the complete opposite to JP's depiction
unfortunately
@compact timber neat idea
thank you I thought so too :D
I wouldn't be able to choose permanently about which one to use so why not both xD
@fickle jasper buff what about dilo exactly? Be more specific
Itās prolly the least agile Dino besides Stego and deino. It is too frail to compete with carnos or larger. It has terrible bleed resistance, the hallucinations are minor distractions now, and its hit box is completely messed up rn.
Dilo should go back to being a heavy bleeder like in legacy
Dilo is unagile because it's extremely fast
The venom used to be the most OP thing ever, now the hallucinations are just bugged, and of course it can't compete with carnos and ceras (actually it can), they're twice its size
Omnis are faster and much more agile. Carnos are faster and more agile. The venom totally was extremely op and I donāt want it to go back to that, but right now venom does nothing but make you see a little less. I donāt expect a dilo to 1v1 a carno or cera but it shouldnāt be anywhere near as one sided as it is now especially when they are going to be in the same small tier category once other Dinos release
Omnis aren't faster than dilo wtf
Also tiers mean literally nothing, they're twice the size of dilo period
Also dilo runs for longer last I checked
A fight against cera isn't one-sided since dilo controls the engagement and can choose to book it whenever it wants
also tiers are an entirely subjective concept at this point
in my opinion, carno and cera are a tier above dilo
but again, that's based entirely on subjective interpretation of the roster
also carnos are not more agile at all, that's a load of crap. I just played dilo and literally escaped carno entirely based on the fact I could outturn it with my superior agility
wait what?
i mix up teno/cera/carno all the time too lmao
sometimes my brain shuts down
i also got dyslexia so i read carno as cera and cera as carno
That's why we need cartasaurus in the game
@still zenith they are community made the isle does not manage them
@acoustic spruce an "attention" mutation exists and is called Hypervigilance and is only on herbs and omnis. It enhances the sounds of footsteps by 50% and increases your vision radius when eating or drinking, thus making it harder to get ambushed.
@cyan cave you do start the game with a full stomach
@limber hull i dont think so... if that is true then my game is very buggy cause i never started a single dinosaur with full stomach...
you do, you just get hungry a lot faster as juvi because your stomach grows with you
Then it is the same story a starving game and lot of restart cause 80% of the map is not populated with any players or food...
Most small lakes not have any fish in it... and i rarely can smell anything or hear anything while i try to travel trough the whole map to a location where i can have food ...
#general-feedback message i would really want to see all the base stats of the dino in game, not on wiki or asking people on discord.
imo things like damage/bleed, explaining how attacks work and why you should use them. stuff like this should be in the game
but theyāre working on tutorials, so we might also get the dino stats as in-game āwikiā
like when youāre choosing the dino it could show you its base stats and some info about it
So... like adding an in game encyclopedia that fills up over time as you interact with things? š
Maybe not in game, but being able to read through "recovered files" after say, fighting a juvie dibble, youd see information on juvie dibble, and its stats, as well as its model and be able to play back calls you have heard
And then each dino has different pages for diff life stages from hatchling, juvie, adol, sub, and adult
hm i didnāt really mean that tbh, but i like this idea hehe
they could put it in āextrasā
i still have no idea what āextrasā are for ahah, so in-game lore/wiki thingy would be cool
Ngl, having AI crows seems kind of...unnecessary, given we're supposed to already have a flying scavenger
I'd like them as a later on kinda thing personally C:
Like when there's less pressing things to be working on.
Also not biased because I love crows and think Pteros are ugly.
I would love birds that fly through the island, but just for aesthetics, not any advanced Ai
I feel like if you give balancing changes any sort of feedback around dinos everyone just votes down because their bias for their favourite dino. Pretty much played them all and can say for certain that there is plenty of bs in a few dino kits. Tenos able to spam kick with huge dmg while their stam in fine, crocs being able to float away with ease while carrying a 100% 3T dibble, 100% Stegos 1 hit capability is boring as no one really challenges you and you will all fights even if outnumbered, Cera chomp can be also spammed with no stam cost or cooldown, Troodons usually get hit form a mile away or teleport into mouths of dinos even tho you blatantly landed your pounce, Im pretty sure pteradons are meant to be way bigger and practically do nothing, can increase the size and let them drop small prey from the sky to get kills. I point these fair problems out but people will down vote due to a personal hit to their fav dino š¤”
@dusky swift generally speaking day is too bright and quite literally hurts my eyes and a lot of others
@leaden acorn and when you walk in the forest it's too dark with no night vision.
In general, the lighting conditions should be adjusted
Never had issues with the forest, also turning nv on doesn't make everything grey anyway
love this game but coming back after a few seasons and not being able to play due to queus is upsetting
why did the close half the servers
theres a full server worth of people in queu in the na servers alone....
I give up.... love you guys.... love this game but 30 minutes in queue is insane
@river idol carno is a small game hunter, so it wouldn't make sense for it to hunt anything bigger than itself
Or when it hits that specific time of day and you can't see anything in an open field because the lighting is awful.
Imagine having to survive as a carno only eating chickens fml.
#general-feedback message I already said they need to make the entire UI more readable. Colour is important and so is text (having to press tab, then mouse to your icons to see stats, and the lack of actual HP%), it's an user experience and QoL issue; monochrome UIs and things that don't give information are harder to understand and control.
@icy lion cant find the post to move it or the post it was in reply to.
@valid delta just play on unofficials. I've been playing on them for my whole evrima life, and haven't encountered a single hacker.
Scroll up in #general-feedback to find the post you replied to, you can't find your post because I deleted it
@night obsidian ref #general-feedback message
There is a shading bug that causes this. It's a known issue and is more visable under water.
Here is an example
#gateway-screenshots message
Thanks. Apologies for putting that in the wrong chat.
I was on unofficials. And it shouldn't matter.
it does because your average hacker cant be bothered to swap to the unofficials tab
And yet I was killed by a hacker in unofficials so I think that logic is flawed.
Hackers are everywhere, just more common in Officials because it can take admins forever to respond to pings as opposed to Unofficial which usually always have an admin on
^^^
just report them in the unofficial discord, and get them banned. Simple.
Doesnāt stop it from happening tho so their point still stands
Each hacker has at LEAST 10 accounts, be much better if the devs ditched EAC as it is in the nicest possible way, crap and use a better/upgraded anti cheat
Any disagreements?
I am curious why wanting more of a connection to a dino, even via something like account bound statistics, would be disagreed with?
Each species host to their own kills / deaths etc
or when dying, being told that you travelled x distance, killed x numbers, etc etc rather than just deceased and start again please. those 10 hours in that one dino, if lucky, gone and forgotten.
I liked it, but from a practicality viewpoint, I think the ancestral echoes would be difficult to implement (without greatly increasing memory usage of the game)
Otherwise I'd love to see some of these features added
I mainly just wanted to entertain the idea of a more personal attachment to the game rather than it all just essentially being wiped upon death, outside of replays
But I appreciate it
oopsie i might've forgot to send the cerato ones š
why is the suggestions channel bot never giving my suggestions a check and x .. so obnoxious
guys lmk here if you want rainbows back š i cant be alone
did you block the bot lol
Because you blocked the bot that applies them
no
did it for you š
@severe marten this one
One thing that should be changed is that players shouldnāt be able to attack someone in their own group or party. If they want to do that, they should have to leave the group. I recently started playing, and I quickly realized how frustrating it is to be attacked by someone on your own team. You can't even escape because they can track exactly where you are. It just doesnāt make sense, and it would be an easy fix.
Go to tab > group > leave group
They can't track you anymore
Removing friendly fire isn't realistic
while im being attacked i dont think thats possible man especially if person attacking me is larger than me.
it would make more sense that if you want to attack your own teammate u have to be the one to leave the group
or at least reduce damage from teammates
which would inturn give you time to leave
its a game bruh
that would also allow groups to just pile onto someone because they don't have to be careful not to hurt each other
reduce damage than atleast
good point tho
They do.
Thatās already an existing mechanic
While I understand and to a degree share your frustration about people doing that, a "quick leave group" button would be preferable in my opinion
@mortal parrot #general-feedback message damn ive been thinking of a smiliar idea, was gonna make some animation for an allosaurus suffering the spasms
totally agree with yours, upvote š
#general-feedback message another idea: you should hear combat music stopping and starting upon reaching stage 3 insanity
@urban flax #general-feedback message Are you suggesting the gradient heartbeat replacing both the current heartbeat and the blood screens, or just the current heartbeat?
Only the heartbeat
Bloodscreens would not change
ok thought so
@vivid mason I was actually thinking when making that suggestion that they could also give Dilo and Troodon those effects with their venom so it isn't only obtained from eating certain things (Dilo causing insanity and Troodon with Muscle Spasms)
yesyes i agree
Like Stage 1 Venom causes stage 1 muscle spasms, Stage 2 venom causes stage 2 muscle spasms, etc
After Troodon's Venom wears off the muscle spasms will begin to heal but not disappear instantly like Troodon's venom causing a lingering effect
that would be interesting
Dilo with insanity will work differently, where the longer you are envenomed you just start to go insane with the venom stage determining how fast you go insane and won't start healing until you are no longer envenomed
Adds personality to both their design
you should definitely make a suggestion linked to your original one about this fr
I should
I mainly love the idea of Dilo causing your Dino to go insane
yeah that would be interesting
Posted it
#general-feedback message fun little idea
I would like to know why people disagree with my suggestion?
Itās not really that big of a change, herbivores have it really easy right now with grazing you can basically never starve since you can gain food by grazing relatively quickly
There should be a little more punishment for not maintaining your food like carnivores have to do
It also just gives herbivores something to do other than sitting around, going to migration zone, or tryna bash in some other playerās brain.
because having to hold e longer isnāt fun or interesting and adds another element of useless boring to certain playables along with another incentive to simply just.. not play the playable
I mean starving when you donāt find ai or players isnāt fun itās a part of survival and it shouldnāt be fun because itās on you to upkeep your hunger itās a consequence not a benefit
Iād also honestly argue carnivores have it pretty easy right now too. with the amount of ai that spawns, thereās a very slim chance of dying to starvation unless you just afk until you starve to death
for reference, a giant cera megapack I was in recently had zero worry of starvation lol
You play cera, the one carnivore where itās actually pretty easy to find food
itās easy to find food with other playables too
Iāve had zero issues with being on the brink of starvation ever since ai was fixed
Cera actively has an advantage over other carnivores when it comes to food
carno, troodon, omni, dilo
Yes
This is besides the main point of the suggestion
Herbivores canāt starve
It should atleast be made more tedious
donāt see an issue with it tbh. Iād argue herbivores need more incentives to be played rather than less incentives
majority of the playerbase play carnivores. itād be nice to see more herbivores played
People play herbivores consistently wdym? Literal herds of diablos destroying everything, tenos, stegos, etc
They have little difficulty besides trying to secure diets because they group up in big herds more commonly than not
People are always going to want to play carnivores because the only really entertaining thing to do is kill other players and itās actively encouraged to do so as carnivores. Itāll always be that way, wether you are able to graze in 2 seconds or 2 minutes
Itās hardcore survival
Iād get a more recent one but apparently petitās is having an event rn so this one is about 3 months old and already in my photos
but it usually tends to go like this on servers. far more carnivores than herbivores
There was a suggestion to change grazing into a way to slow hunger and nutrient drain and thus make herbs able to starve but turning grazing into a tool that would be more frequently used that I am entirely for.
This suggestion simply punishes. It doesnt add anything engaging to the game and is entirely the wrong mentality to have imo. If players suggested more fun or useful things that altered behavior to accomplish a goal without it being punishing, then great. But this just feels bad natured as a baseline to have added "just because herbivores cant starve, they should suffer X"
Reverse gastroliths, good mechanic, fill on actual food from a migration zone, nibble grass every other minute to slow by 4x, thatās like a 4 hour food bar then
Herbivores canāt complain about distance to the mz is they have 4 hours to get there
Exactly. My only concern would be for baby hypsis and stuff that loses its food before it can even get to a sanctuary but thats more a spawn point issue
Spawn hypsi in a sanctuary, it only has grow states because of mutations anyway, it used to just spawn fg
You appear in sanc, eat a mushroom for your 10 minute grow time and then leave to be with your herbivore friends, all mutant like
Wait. Did they add an EU server but Not an NA server???
#general-feedback message tbh Gateway is an unfinished map, with around 40% of the land being a wasteland. Like that area behind the coast SP sanctuary (no water and never ending forest), the trail that connects West Access, NW Ridge, Water Access, and NE Plains. I think that when the map is finished with these, players would spread more even on the big map, which is Gateway.
Some areas of the map have also been said to be aimed more towards human activity and are left more barren intentionally.
Gives them a bit of breathing room once they come. Which even then it won't be that empty since humans will naturally attract various dinos.
they did add an NA server. Na 6 is up.
its basically like this
@ashen ocean hey omen, i was wondering why you ā on my suggestion/feedback, no hate to u but im just wondering 
....pigpigs were you trying to play the isle as a mobile game?
#general-feedback message tbh we dont need more stuff in the ocean at all right meow. theres not point in that. we dont even have any aquatics or semi-aquatics that live in the ocean
its just adding the conted for the sake of adding the content
because migrations are not broken?
@thick summit It's called sheen and it's used for materials such as velvet
No I don't have anything relevant to say
probably shoulda added that, its bugged for literally every unofficial server
is it?
maybe i just didnt notice
"unofficial server"
i removed the downvote
i mean, still part of the game ig. if its bugged on unofficials that means mechanic has some issues
Or it's server owners managing their servers wrong
still feedback cause its the game code thats messed up?, "this feature we added doesnt work on unofficial servers, better just play our constantly full no rules officals"
@thick summit in regards to your suggestions. The shiny effect is only visible because you have the night vision on. However, the NV has to be improved anyway and the weird outlines shouldn't be there. But lighting is a general big problem in the isle so yea I agree. But be aware the outline/shiny effect is only visible with night vision on
@compact timber the problem with your last suggestion is that if we debuff herbies and carnies that stay close to each other, you open the gates for griefers and exploiters. Imagine being a Stego, minding your own business and some carnivores decide they want to debuff you so others that are further away can attack you. They would simply stay close to your since you're slow and wait for the debuff to kick in. Then their friends would come and attack you. Your suggestions would make the problem worse unfortunately
I see what you mean
He's talking about the ugly blue sheen that has been present for several updates, not the stencil effect
I predicted the downvotes might be due to a possible exploit
just couldn't see what exactly
thanks for pointing that out
No problem you're welcome. I hate mix packers too. It's a big issue. I appreciate everybody that contributes to trying to find a solution. Keep on searching š
Okay, I only have those when my NV is on
Maybe I have to look more closely
Look in the gateway screenshots channel, it's present on many screenshots, even ones that cleary have NV off
It's dependent on light, but appears even without NV
Okay, I'll have an eye open
because firstly, you dont need two buttons for the same thing, secondly it would be much better for one button to go into stance and second to leave it, so with all the mess with inputs while doing something else like attacking it would be much better to have two keys for separate functions, so you can at least spam it to be sure, same with maia stance switching, so i m downvoting cause its pointless and fixes nothing, while there could be much better option.
But hey, last time i proposed that i got downvoted to oblivion, so have your democracy
I think spacebar is way better because u can control it better, but ty for ur opinion and thanks for answering
how is spacebar any better, ctrl and space are both easily accesible and used by otherwise idle fingers anyway, if anything space is worse since its a bit heavier to click
Im used to spacebar cus i playes maia abit too much xD
@edgy flax this would just make dibble more overpowered than it already is.
How so
fym how so. have you not seen how crazy op dibs are?
i understand that, but its way too op rn. prob going to get a nerf next update.
its hitbox is one of the main reasons its op.
Ok but hitbox doesnt have to do anything with switching to spar mode am i wrong here?
In my eyes its a qol update for dibble to make it feel better
U could still use ctrl, maia can activate it with space and with ctrl, u can just use both
real
why would you want it to feel better. Dibble should take skill to play as, not be an easy dino to play as.
i think its movement changes were kinda unneeded
with the blocking putting you into sparring
and having to hit ctrl to exit
exactly.
id rather just go back to dibble control scheme that it had on release day lol
Did u die to dibbles too often or why r u a dibble hater xDD
update release, not HT release
im not a dibble hater, but yes ive died to dibble plenty of times. another button for sparring wouldn't be necessary.
playable
hello new player here . i launched my game and everything is zoomed in on menu on a crazy resolution . i ve tried to change it but cant due to it being zoomed in anyone have a fix for this?
you should ask in #š§-evrima-troubleshooting-š§ or #š§-legacy-troubleshooting-š§ depending on which version of the game you're running
i figured it out thanks tho
#general-feedback message why people do this?š

