#general-feedback-discussion

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shy python
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I like the idea but I still don't see players exploring for it 😦

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People mostly don't care about AI we wanna hunt players the AI give us 0% food

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If AI food was also increased I'd for sure explore

limber hull
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I don't personally agree with an increase in AI

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I think it's already too much lol

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I saw 7 boars in one place today, absolute absurdity

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Also AI is absolutely a motivator for movement

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Many solo players who play smaller creatures migrate frequently to ensure they have good nutrition while not having to face off against the many deathgroups in hotspot areas

lament lagoon
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i didnt understand

limber hull
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then you never will

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your arrogance will be your undoing

shy python
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a full grown cera eating a goat gets 0%

limber hull
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thats more of a cera problem

shy python
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since you lose hunger more than the goat gives

limber hull
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because cera has a bottomless pit of a stomach

shy python
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It's outrageous tho

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you just starve slower eating goats

limber hull
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thing can eat an entire teno and still be hungry

shy python
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true

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but still if a goat gave me like 7% food and I could eat 4 to keep the starvation at bay for 10 mins

limber hull
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@hexed timber i wouldn't have you press spacebar, i'd just have it activate when you release RMB like hypsi spit, pachy ram or cerato charge bite

vagrant jungle
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anybody else noticed that Dilo RMB / venom doesn't work?
It doesnt chuckle and also does not show venom stage glow when smelling/Q
Cant use charges

limber hull
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space bar just makes it needlessly clunky imho

hexed timber
limber hull
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lmb?

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same as pachy, where you just look the other direction from where your omni is facing?

hexed timber
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il give it some extra thought, because i do agree that was originally the way i pictured it working ( as u just described)

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the cancel question made me alter it

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kinda looked at herra and i was like AH! spacebar

boreal briar
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ah and one more thing, if your dilo's arms are outstretched and it's mouth open while moving, that's another venom indicator so you don't need to get close and sniff em

mental kindle
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I agree that the forrests being barren is really bad for herrera. we need animals/AI placed around biomes, not spawn next to players. However, with the rest I cannot agree with so much, but then again, my Herrera build is in the swamps, and I live a luxurious life of debauchery there with it.

I will consistently hunt dear and boar and stack them around my tree, and either continue feeding off them, giving me two nice cores, or even luring in other prey. Meanwhile I dangle my feet off the branches.

Most branches btw can be sit on, if you know how. You need to climb above it and then tinker around with the jump marker so it lands on the branch, then just jump on it. I agree though that the mechanic for this could be better, like give you a "step on branch" prompt that then can be activated with RMB.

As for the little birds, just snap at them and you one shot kill them, usually there are no more than 3 to 4, plus they give extra food.

Anyhow, come to the swamps and live a sweet Herrera life!

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^^in this pic I am draining my core, so I can replace it with an S. such is the platter garnished. (pic was taken yesterday.) 🙂

lucid robin
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@hoary relic I get the humor, but be warned that people might hate on you for joke posts in #general-feedback :')

hoary relic
lucid robin
hoary relic
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Thank you 🫡

lucid robin
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🫡

young veldt
hoary relic
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Ikr I have no idea how TI_LUL

young veldt
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It got deleted 😔

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NOOOOO, I want an actual hypsi nerf! 😔

hoary relic
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I understand why they deleted it, nothing against them

young veldt
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It’d be funny if we got another hypsi nerf, at least on April fools pls

hoary relic
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That would be funny honestly, maybe a nerf to something like it’s spit (of which is already bad) just to exemplify the experience

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But yeah Hypsi doesn’t really need a nerf, it does need buffs though

lucid robin
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there's literally no reason to allow troodon in but not hypsi. oh, it can blind and harass the babies, boo-hoo

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that does like no damage lol

hidden mist
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I am sure that devs buffed teno’s damage… I tanked at least 1 head kick less as a carno before dying

mental kindle
lucid robin
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nutrient slots

mental kindle
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yeah, you get 3 "cores" as ppl commonly call them

limber hull
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i have literally never heard anyone call them a core lol

lucid robin
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i havent seen ppl call them that so i was confused lol, i always just called them diet slots or nutrient slots

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cores does sound cool though

mental kindle
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I've seen plenty of youtubers call them when I first got into the game, and it stuck with me. It's the quickest and nicest way to say it imo.

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and equivalent to similar things in other games, I guess is where they took it from

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but yeah, maybe it aint as common as I thought, hehe

primal bison
lucid robin
primal bison
lucid robin
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and frankly, hypsis coming into sanctuaries would be a good source of food if u could catch them lol

primal bison
limber hull
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?????

lucid robin
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._. i guess? im too tired to argue further about it anyway lol, i dont even play it

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more than like once a year anyway

primal bison
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We just chatting

limber hull
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man i wanna play climbing hypsi so bad

lucid robin
# primal bison Man everything is not an arguement lol

two people trying to convince each other of their opinions on a subject is an argument. the word 'argument' doesn't mean people aimlessly screaming opinions toxically at each other, as some ppl seem to use the word for XD

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two or more*

primal bison
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I tried Hyspi...I wish it did have some purpose other than a decent exploring Dino...ah well

lucid robin
lucid robin
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food and especially water drain need to be addressed.. that's a whole different topic of discussion tho XD

primal bison
lucid robin
primal bison
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I started Nov 27th =/

lucid robin
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i was around when the only dinosaurs in the game were tenonto and utahraptor XD

primal bison
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Only ever been on Gateway brother

lucid robin
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pretty sure i was in the game when evrima didnt even exist, actually..

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ima go check when i bought the game holdup

primal bison
limber hull
lucid robin
# primal bison

i could have sworn ive had it for more than 4 years, but aight lol

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primal bison
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I play A LOT tho lol

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lucid robin
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victory

lucid robin
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im nearing 1k lol

primal bison
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This system they have now is all i know

lucid robin
primal bison
lucid robin
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and it all came back at the same rate, top speed

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it was awesome, u could explore so much without starving

primal bison
lucid robin
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it was just more fun when we had stamina

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we could DO things. and it wasnt a slow, groggy-paced game, which apparently the developers want it to be...?

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they want it to be less exciting and action-y? lol

primal bison
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I feel bad for a lot of veteran players that feel this way...I can't really even relate...feels like ya'll lost a whole other game... 😦

limber hull
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except deino I think

primal bison
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It's still in early development so there is a chance they find a happy medium... @lucid robin

limber hull
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galli can run literal marathons it's terrifying

lucid robin
primal bison
lucid robin
limber hull
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i dont

lucid robin
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well most people do from what ive seen

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i know already why u dont and i disagree

limber hull
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i much prefer the new stam. Having fights where raptor packs would literally just sit their ass down, regen their entire stam in less than a minute, then walk back out was absurdly stupid

primal bison
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I can't miss what I never had

lucid robin
limber hull
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stamina should be a resource that people actually care about

lucid robin
limber hull
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i prefer survival over adrenaline bloodbowl

primal bison
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Like I said hopefully they find a happy medium

lucid robin
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we kinda had a happy medium before, at some points

primal bison
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Maybe 5 minutes is too long...and 1 minutes is way too fast....

limber hull
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what happy medium?

lucid robin
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then again they can never make everyone happy, but they can make most people happy

limber hull
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there is no dinosaur that regens for 5 minutes lol

lucid robin
primal bison
lucid robin
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the problem is sitting on your butt for 2 minutes, staring at leaves and an idle animation, doing absolutely nothing. it's dull. especially when u have to do it often

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and it encourages afking

primal bison
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Im just going to play till its not fun and Im having a great time lol

limber hull
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(if you dont sprint everywhere its not often)

lucid robin
primal bison
lucid robin
limber hull
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or you play a herbivore lol

lucid robin
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nobody does that these days LOL i havent seen a herbivore besides maybe a few stegos for weeks

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which is another issue

primal bison
limber hull
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i mean, that's what happens when 3 of your 5 herbis are literally not feature complete, pachy is the clunkiest animal in the game, and migration zones currently are too restrictive

lucid robin
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the only things i ever see are stegos, pachies, or tenos, and they're always kosing

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cuz killing is the only fun thing to do pretty much

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and devs are making fights harder

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so they're making basically having fun harder, for me anyway

primal bison
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Pachy is fun though... its like the only fun Herbie...well maybe Teno I have yet to try Teno

lucid robin
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pachy is only fun cause u get to crack peoples' skulls xD

limber hull
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teno is really good atm, arguably the best herbi in the entire game atm

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extremely strong and stamina efficient

lucid robin
primal bison
lucid robin
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it's had the most time to be polished

limber hull
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also teno is def the most mechanically interesting

primal bison
lucid robin
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making an entire digital drawing whilst also talking to 2 people over discord about 2 sort of different things and having to respond to all the messages... im turning into a multitasker XD

limber hull
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in terms of mechanical complexity, the list goes

teno, pachy, dryo, hypsi, stego

stego just sucks ass and it needs a kit rework ASAP because god DAMN this thing is garbage and will die to the first land predator larger than 4 tons

lucid robin
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yes i finally colored in one of the teeth-

limber hull
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dryo's combat is infinitely more engaging than stego's atm

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and stego is a combat-focused animal

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dryo has a bite attack, a directional bite attack, a kick attack, a tailwhip and a dodge

primal bison
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Itr's weird... Everything runs away when I come lumbering through on my Steggo...I think im so cute...but apparently I am terrifying

limber hull
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people don't know how to fight stegos

primal bison
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Yea steggos have really weak heads...

lucid robin
limber hull
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and there's the whole "stego OP" argument

if you play a single dark souls game you know how to fight stego, because stego is basically a really boring dark souls boss

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bait out the attack, immediately counter attack

lucid robin
limber hull
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stego is literally so bad that they have to entirely rework it because they realised that it will have zero way to deal with the rex they're adding soon

primal bison
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In an ideal state I agree... but this game has rubberbanding/lag/crashes and just plain hit box glitches that will make Steggo look like a god

lucid robin
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every time i play it's constant tiny rubberbanding backwards

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and occasional big rubberbands

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and also huge lag spikes where i get damn 9 fps or lower-

primal bison
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Yup the ol teleport behind me trick lol

lucid robin
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XD

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mainly the herrera changes

primal bison
# lucid robin mainly the herrera changes

I see a theme here with you and sancs and wanting ways around the bees. The other stuff I can't really say much as I have limited experience with Herrera. I honestly wish they'd add more mid tier Dinos

lucid robin
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cuz i was walking past one as a herrer

primal bison
lucid robin
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but like what if u fall into one as a herrera and u could climb up a tree to escape the bees?

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thatd be coolll and convenient so u dont have to run panicked around till u find a way out thru the thick trees or die to the bees

primal bison
lucid robin
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also im almost done with that art piece i mentioned ive been working on when talking to yall

primal bison
lucid robin
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when you dont know what to name your file so you just-

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i mean the name isnt that inaccurate

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anyway. ima dip

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cya

prime creek
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is there a way to unalive yourself if you get stuck? or do you just have to wait to starve?

lucid robin
prime creek
solemn copper
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aaand i ran into another cheater^^ fresh spawn omni, kept teleporting after me no matter how many times i killed him - in the second i sit down he teleports back in my vicinity (we talking 10 minutes of straight running away while killing him 3 times doing so) - upgrade your anti-cheat or you lose most long-term players within days (happened on EU2 around 20 minutes ago)

neat blaze
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also can you guys fix the range in which bushes spawn in? It should be the same distance that your card can support.

vagrant jungle
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I lost my Logitech G Hub profile since last update, cant bind the .exe anymore.

Anybody else also have this issue?

hidden mist
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@glass jacinth whaha what a story…

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Btw did you die to thirst later? I can’t imagine how you are supposed to drink in there

limber hull
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@jagged ingot the next dinosaur to be added is a herbivore

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diablo

jagged ingot
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Ya but isn't that the only Herbie next?

limber hull
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rex and trike come after, then maia

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so there is one carni coming, but three of the coming four animals are herbis

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and then its ovi (an omnivore) and kentro (another herbi)

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there's also something in between maia and ovi but we don't know what that is

jagged ingot
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Oh I forgot about the kent

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Do we know if minmi is still coming?

limber hull
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yes, it is

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nothing has gone to say minmi is cancelled, so it most likely isnt

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just not anytime soon

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(at least from what we know)

jagged ingot
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I would love to hide in the dirt it's so cute 🥰

sudden ridge
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I would love to survive, it would be a game, no fish still

latent olive
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@urban flax I love it so goddamn much

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I’m going to advertise this feedback post everywhere

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Absolutely love the idea of a village Center campfire

urban flax
weak dune
boreal briar
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@cedar drum There are an ungodly amount of AI spawning right now. The problem is it only spawns around concentrations of players (I believe). NE part of the island near the pond at East Plains and NE Plains lake has way too many.

Until they fix how they spawn it's still gunna be an issue if you walk off to explore.

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@brave sonnet im curious, what dinosaur are you playing, a stego?
Breaks from fights can take a while I found but only like 5-8min if it's multiple fractures

still warren
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NE is full of boar packs and goats

primal bison
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Are fish not classified as AI?.... cause there are no fish

still warren
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no fish but plenty of others

primal bison
brave sonnet
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Its been over an hour now

cedar drum
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I was in the south western region of the map at the time

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I guess that makes sense

boreal briar
brave sonnet
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Yeah ive been laying since 10 i just logged out someone can kill my body if they find it i only had a little time to play so that was disspointing

boreal briar
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strange, I bet it was a bug then if you'd been resting. shame to lose a deino

hollow jewel
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any news on fish being fixed yet?

still sapphire
jagged ingot
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Has anyone else heard the rattle snake sounds????

strange quiver
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@dull perch Why downvote my suggestion the milisecond I post it lmfao? What do you disagree on

dull perch
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very "smart" and fun

strange quiver
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My point is that venomous animals getting their whole mechanic held back for their whole life cycle is super goofy when it should instead just scale, like everything else does.

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And the fact that troodon is relegated to only scavenging or AI hunting until it's an adult is silly as well, probably why we don't see many of them anymore.

dull perch
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juvie omni can be bucked, deino can be avoided with map knowledge but dilo sees you decides to bite you and now its reks your playtrought for 10 minutes of riveting of and no sniffing gameplay, its just dumb aleast they have to wait till 70% to become pests.

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also as one of the few people that still play troodon

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it doesnt even exist anymore because dilo is just better for the average joe in every way

lyric spoke
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Also dilo stats are crazy good without the venom even through growth, besides bleed resist

dull perch
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more health,damage, speed and cooler venom

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and troo get what

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to sweat your ass off for a damage mutliplier that last 45 secs

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give me a break

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all the while you get oneshotted by the whole roster

strange quiver
# dull perch juvie omni can be bucked, deino can be avoided with map knowledge but dilo sees ...

I do agree that 10 minutes is overkill, but that's also something that should scale with size imo. I suggested forever ago venom should only last 1-2 minutes if you lay down, or 5 minutes total, because no dilo is going to LET you lay down anyway.

I'd be alright if you could at least have stage 1 venom for both juvie creatures, stage 2 at 50% growth, and stage 3 unlocked at 70% like currently.

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I love playing troodon and it really needs its venom boosted. I still think holding it back until its adult as well is an odd choice because you don't get to hunt with it whatsoever until you're grown.

dull perch
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the only way i would agree to any of your venom changes is they add some sort of minimum range where the dilo has to be to spam clones because having juvies essentially aimboting with clones from miles away is just dumb.

strange quiver
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Again I'd be fine if you don't even get the hallucinations until 70% TI_HypsiShrug I just think it's weird two animals don't get to utilize their mechanics until that point whereas everything else does.

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Baby ceras can still spawn in, eat rot and go make adults puke but juvie troodon and juvie dilo don't get to utilize their mechanics until they're grown. Just odd, I personally feel.

dull perch
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gotcha

strange quiver
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I remember when juvie omni couldn't pounce until the same range either because it did adult bleed at that point regardless of its life stage. They just need to tone down the venom effects for juvies, don't let them spam it on adults, and it'd be fine.

opaque inlet
# dull perch <@175413937850941450> smart play = get 2 bites if its day or just one if its nig...

This is an issue with dilo as whole, not just juvi dilos.

Adult dilos do this same thing to ceras and raptors and whatever.

If we fix dilo venom to be balanced between adults, I think it's okay to let juvies use it on other juvies - Balance the adult combat to be balanced and then allow the two juvies to combat as two adults would. Most other animals their juvi vs juvi is the same as their adult vs adult. I'm okay if dilo's juvi vs juvi is the same as it's adult vs adult, but right now it's adult vs adult is busted/really unbalanced in dilo's favor, and THAT'S what we gotta fix.

primal bison
lucid robin
barren sparrow
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@blissful tiger It looks like you may be in photo mode, which explains why you're not able to see hunger and thirst. I don't recall what key it is, but you should be able to find it in Key-binds.

blissful tiger
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Bo i meant diets in menu

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No*

hearty sphinx
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@hasty lodge put ambient occlusion on in ingame settings

vague ledge
limber hull
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@vital laurel they have a dev testing branch that every patch goes through

vital laurel
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this would

elfin turtle
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@barren sparrow F10 is default photo mode key

lucid robin
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wth my suggestion didnt send? it's red- it failed???

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rip ig

limber hull
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internet i think

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but they shouldn't add that regardless

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because it'll just lead to Discord buddies outing hiding dinos

coarse spruce
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I reaaaaaally want a suicide button

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shy python
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@pale peak oh I thought the underwater nv was a bug on my end 🤣

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@ember anvil Why would you point that out 💀 😵‍💫

ember anvil
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I was bothered so everyone else shall too /s

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It appears it's like that only with center lines

lucid robin
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@barren zephyr howwwww do u color ur text in discord

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ive looked it up so many times and nobody gives a clear explanation

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they say to use the ` but that just makes it dark highlight-

barren zephyr
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I’m on the phone right now it like this

lucid robin
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it was green for a second~

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hi
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-.- gimme a sec lol

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"hi
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YAS

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ty

barren zephyr
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theres different colors json is blue

lucid robin
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what are the color names?

barren zephyr
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arm - orange
diff -white
elm- red
ini - blue

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theres more but I dont remember

lucid robin
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ty sm

shy python
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@minor lava YESS and let the humans hide inside the poo 😄

grave compass
slow wolf
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@iron bloom @magic oasis @proud coral what's the reason you don't support a suicide feature?

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@hoary kettle per ur suggestion, I think they should keep the stam system as is and then add a mutation or multiple mutations which would allow stam regen while walking, or a specific diet which would allow it.

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FTR I main omni, just trot everywhere until you find a fight, 9 times out of 10, you will have more stamina than another player when entering the fight

hoary kettle
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it literally makes zero sense

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what about troodon then?

slow wolf
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It does, it makes stamina more important. Have you landed a full stam pounce into a cera/carno/stego/dilo? it will nearly kill them right now

hoary kettle
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cant even kill a goat solo

slow wolf
hoary kettle
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it just makes the game a walking sim

slow wolf
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sprint when u need to sprint

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dont when u dont

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or sprint to travel, and rest for 2-3min. get 3 3dot diet and get 25% stam cost decrease for sprinting and swimming

proud coral
# slow wolf <@594640249007767573> <@727259257501646858> <@124622682242154496> what's the rea...

Well ultimately Kissen has already said that an unstuck is something they'd like to do, but gave a stressed absolutely not to a suicide option. My personal reasoning though is I feel a suicide feature could harbor more potential for abuse (eg; snackrificing, griefing nests) than simply shifting the player around after a set period of time. Might sound odd but people can be petty with exploiting anything they can <:P

slow wolf
# proud coral Well ultimately Kissen has already said that an unstuck is something they'd like...

I don't see how it could be used to grief nests, can you elaborate on that. Also, if turning your corpse into a snack is a concern, then there would be respawn cooldowns like on sprio. I currently start every session killing a carno off a cliff then getting it's organs as an omni. The feature I suggested would activate a button in the settings or tab menu after sitting or standing still for 10-15 minutes. This is to keep players from quitting the game when they get stuck in the countless holes, pockets, walls and dams spread across the map.

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back in 5min, pls elaborate on the nest griefing possibility

proud coral
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I can see it being used against nesters kiiiinda in the same way people abuse grouping, where they act nice, invite you, then use your nametag to track you down and kill you.

Basically you get nested in, sit down, suicide, then boom the nesters have to deal with a corpse that then immediately spawns the Ptero and Compy AI. This is already an issue with simply killing things that get close to the nest since herbis have no way of disposing the corpse and are forced to deal with scavenger AI and the smell attracting predators.

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Also again we already know the devs are against a suicide ability so there's not much point trying to get one in <:P

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An unstuck though, they wanna do

slow wolf
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@strange quiver they removed darker underbellies to make camoflage less like sprio.

strange quiver
coarse spruce
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I don't see the appeal of removing global chat, not sure why the suggestion is so divisive

urban bear
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Global chat just ruins the gameplay

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Makes mix and over packing easier

gray loom
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without it the game gets extreeemly boring when youre playing on a giant map with only 100 people max

urban bear
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Just wrong

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go to a migration zone the game isin't intended to be a chat room

glass canyon
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Just let it Bodylanguage speak and Show respect and dont Go to close learn Trust. I was starving as dilo i showed a croc what i need and he brings me 5 Fisches to survive. Then let again it Body say thx mate for saving my life. Not all what moves Must be crushed

agile roost
urban bear
# agile roost it still is...

How is it a chatroom with no global lol, you can only communicate with your own species and have multiple things to do

fierce lintel
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global chat makes the game feel more like the multiplayer game it is

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and a lot of people still use it as a chat room, just look at deino local when nobody's mauling eachother

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and without global chat people tab out to talk in discord, which is waaay more immersion breaking than opening global chat

agile roost
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yeah

compact anvil
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there is literally no point in NOT having a global chat when literally the entire playerbase uses discord anyway. Not having globat chat is not doing anything for mixpacking. Just turn it off if you don't want to use it

limber hull
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global is literally the most toxic goddamn thing in legacy, i do not want that back

carmine nimbus
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Global chat was amazing for the Isle because it also made people f call more often. It was mechanically -very- good for hunting - especially since herbivores were the ones mostly chilling around talking to their herds, essentially spamming their f calls. I always thought this was so clever for the devs to do. Making the most relaxed (+ the most toxic) players make the most noise, and therefore put targets on their back in such a natural way, simply by the design of your game, very good

  • it made the world feel much, much more alive in general. I miss it :<

And as far as mixpacking/overpacking went, Global chat didn't exacerbate that issue - it literally broadcasted to everyone 'we're overpacking/mixpacking, avoid us/report us, and we're here on the map, btw'. Social shaming very much helped prevent it back in the day

urban bear
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People still have to F call without global to talk in local

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global also ruins immersion with everybody being buddy buddy and sitting next to each other

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as we saw in legacy

compact anvil
lyric spoke
urban bear
urban bear
compact anvil
lyric spoke
compact anvil
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half the time on full realism pot servers I just turn off global. literally wouldn’t even know it’s there

urban bear
urban bear
compact anvil
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how do you not understand the global ≠ mix packing and that you can just turn it off if you don’t want to see drama

compact anvil
urban bear
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Because it sitll has the effect of creating more mixpacking

compact anvil
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it does not

urban bear
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Turning it off isn't fixing the fact it effects the game in a negative way lol

compact anvil
#

if people see mixpacking in global, they get reported and kicked

urban bear
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just because im not looking at it doesnt mean the problem vanishes

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it creates an Arcady boring chat room

lyric spoke
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The 8-person dilo/cera pack I fought yesterday would beg to differ

compact anvil
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if anything, not having global makes mixpacking easier since no one can see it

limber hull
#

hell, the mixpacking is not the worst part. Global creates witchhunts against specific players, utter toxicity, more

urban bear
glass canyon
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Gameplay would be boring and fearless. Because asking First as a raptor: hey Pachy is it okay when i eat u now ?

compact anvil
limber hull
compact anvil
limber hull
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it enabled this kind of behaviour

compact anvil
limber hull
#

on servers without rules, global is an unstoppable menace

compact anvil
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then don’t play on servers without rules

limber hull
#

rule servers are by far the worse of the two options

compact anvil
#

THEN DONT PLAY ON THEM

limber hull
#

except servers without them are horrible because of global

compact anvil
#

turn off global

limber hull
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so damned if i do, damned if i dont

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people can still witchhunt me

compact anvil
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if you don’t use global, literally no one knows who you are

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there is no name tags

limber hull
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"brown raptor, North East plains, yellow markings, kill on sight"

urban bear
#

turning off global on a server that has it on does not fix the issue of it causing more mixpacking and other nonesne

compact anvil
#

I have never seen that ever happen

limber hull
urban bear
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happens all the time man

limber hull
#

global fully enabled it

compact anvil
#

playing on the wrong servers then

urban bear
#

Doesn't matter if it does or doesn't it can happen and thats really stupid

compact anvil
#

it’s a matter of servers not global

icy lion
limber hull
# compact anvil playing on the wrong servers then

just because you played in the vaccuum of rule servers doesn't mean global is universally good. It requires INSANE levels of moderation to prevent it from being "what's your favourite slur, discuss" the chat

compact anvil
#

well official is atrocious idk why anyone plays on them tbh

urban bear
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Fr the server chats are bad enough

#

imagine you add that in game 💀

limber hull
urban bear
#

petits is good but other then that yeah

compact anvil
urban bear
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Bro

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No I dont want to roleplay a dinosaur, I want to play the survival game

limber hull
lyric spoke
#

@faint terrace Migrations are basically already doing that, but I would't mind an actual temperature system similarly if it made immersive sense tbh

compact anvil
#

that sucks I guess 🤷🏽‍♀️

limber hull
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i made a minor infraction on some legacy server and found out some of their admins were streaming my steam account publically to their community

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i refuse to believe that's the better experience

urban bear
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Islander has the worst admins

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and its the only popular rules server

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Kos isn't a thing its just part of the game

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if you kill someone you more then likely had a reason

compact anvil
#

tell that to pachy players lol

limber hull
#

you can EASILY escape pachies, or kill them

urban bear
#

They are fully made to be an aggresive herbivore

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just keep distance

compact anvil
#

nycta, mesozoic are both great servers

limber hull
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KOS isn't a problem if you don't let it be a problem

urban bear
#

Mesozoic is horrid on pot bruh

compact anvil
urban bear
#

Bais for pateron players who give them money on mesozoic

limber hull
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the great thing about EVRIMA is that all animals have a kit capable of dealing with another animal, be it speed, agility, power or something else

compact anvil
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I love meso lmfao. full realism is my fav gameplay

urban bear
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I reported a pateron and they closed my ticker because he was a pateron

limber hull
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realism servers are funny because i find officials so much more realistic

glass canyon
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Vote for as Long as there is no ai fish the Ptera cant be Chosed

urban bear
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Fr the game has enough mechanics to the point realisim is the the game with extra steps

compact anvil
#

officials imo have the absolute worst toxic players in the game since there’s no rules holding them back

#

kos, mixpacking, etc

limber hull
#

rule servers imo have the absolute worst toxic players in the game since they use rules to get away with being rude or playing in a scumbag way

#

the amount of passive aggression i got in my experience on a rule server was INSANE

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and because he was a regular, admins just didn't care

compact anvil
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tbf the only time I ever see people being rude is if someone rbs or there an annoying 12 yr old

limber hull
#

it's a complete favouritism hellscape

urban bear
#

fr

compact anvil
#

maybe I just play on the better servers idk

limber hull
#

if you're new to the server, you immediately feel yourself unwelcome

urban bear
#

never had that tbh

compact anvil
#

i’ve never had that experience. everyone has always been welcome and willing to group and chat

urban bear
#

Same everyone was chill

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it was just the admins

limber hull
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nah i got some people who massively used rules as a crutch to getaway with some bull

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like they'd pull out the rule list when it was convinient to their dino

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for instance, my friend's rex walked slightly ahead of me as I rested in the dead of night. Suddenly, he was attacked by dilos, and I got up to help, killed a dilo, only to be told "you cannot interfere" and got banned as i watched my friend stream himself get tailridden to death

i was not that far away, and the concept you have to be touching and can't do two things at once was absurd

urban bear
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Body down rule is nonsense and no attacking on nests is terrible

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encourages afk

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and not paying attention, also ruins savs playstyles when people are stuck on their bodys

limber hull
#

body down rule was used by people to charge down whatever child we had, kill them, claim body down and end the fight before we could do anything about it

urban bear
#

Yeah

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it would just reward you for taking a fight you would not be able to win without it

limber hull
#

you literally just take a fight and when you start losing, bite the kid

urban bear
#

I would attack huge herds on legacy that would easily kill me no matter what but I could just target one guy and win

compact anvil
#

I will agree body down rules are quite dumb. maybe for herd hunting but for competition, real animals wouldn’t just stop killing after 1 is down, the would fight until either the other party is either dead or one party fleas

mental kindle
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the ptera experience atm.

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limber hull
#

@south oar you can literally tell if you're critically hurt using the heart monitor

south oar
#

All I want is a more realistic and better blood screen to tell how hurt we are

limber hull
#

thats fair

south oar
#

You should be able to tell by the blood screen, the way your dino looks, and sounds if you should exit or not, the heart monitor is the last thing you should have to check, because you kind of need to check it in a semi-safe spot

urban flax
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Or make it like RE or other good games where the health monitor temporarily appears whenever you take damage

south oar
urban flax
#

Also, we're probably gonna need directional damage indicators when humans are finally added
Otherwise imagine being shot, with no way of knowing where it came from

south oar
#

Yeahhh

limber hull
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probably because dilo exists and a single well-placed blow hard counters dilo's existence

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and people refuse to believe a herbivore can fight back

wooden agate
#

@south grove ^ yeah pachy legbreak definitely is not being removed lol, the fracture mechanic was built around it, for it.

south grove
wooden agate
south grove
#

🤓

wooden agate
#

you cant hear either? you cant check the surroundings before you drink?

#

it sounds like youre mad that the creature is functioning as intended, you just keep seeing the a-hole players TI_HypsiShrug

south grove
wooden agate
urban flax
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This is a common case of "I was ambushed and I wouldn't complain if it was a carnivore, but it was by a herbivore so it's unfair because herbivores must suck ass"

wooden agate
#

herbivores must be weak because they eat grass 🤓

south grove
#

It's a herbivore with spectacular night vision

south grove
#

🤦🏻‍♂️

wooden agate
#

you're going to die in the game. whats next? remove dilo venom because "ermmm i dont like the fog"

south grove
#

Says the thing with gender dysphoria

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Nah I'm alright with dildo venom

urban flax
wooden agate
south grove
#

I do not like patchys had the same issue with beast of Bermuda

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Fllllk pathys

wooden agate
#

womp womp

limber hull
#

indeed

#

when you design a herbivore with the expressed purpose of attacking things before they attack you, they end up being aggro

latent olive
wooden agate
urban flax
latent olive
urban flax
#

@narrow narwhal I've talked with Punch about changing the feedback into forums, and he said he was considering it and making tests on backend... this was a few months ago tho. I guess he didn't want to change it in the end

narrow narwhal
urban flax
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hopefully

tropic stream
#

Hello all someone know if the AI teno will be back ?

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or more Ai dino ?

limber hull
#

hopefully never lol

marsh glacier
#

I like how the devs delete the feedback lmao

limber hull
#

they don't lol

marsh glacier
#

they deleted my post

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it was about the hackers in AU1

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so they did

limber hull
#

you sure it didn't just get removed by automod lol

marsh glacier
#

mm not sure but it had 7 upvotes

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and I did not say anything wrong

limber hull
#

they don't like calling people out either

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like stating locations in game

marsh glacier
#

Well then fix the hackers they should take the feedback and actually look into it

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Its literally been happening for weeks

limber hull
#

they are looking into the hacker thing, hackers are just a nightmare to deal with

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because dealing with hackers is literally an arms race

marsh glacier
#

I mean its the same people going to the same location they should at least go into the game to see who does it. im sure its hard but bruh

limber hull
#

they ban hackers

pseudo copper
#

@marsh glacier Your feedback was more of a report, which I hinted at you. Use the evrima channels and report suspicious players there. Admins will take care of cheaters as soon as they are available.

limber hull
#

punch literally goes into the game to set up hacker traps lol

pseudo copper
#

Make sure to check the pins before reporting so you know how to go about it properly.

#

Also, as frog mentioned, there are dozens of cheaters banned daily.

marsh glacier
#

Okay thank you

marsh glacier
pseudo copper
#

Correct, if I'm not mistaken you mentioned AU so in your case #evrima-au

marsh glacier
pseudo copper
marsh glacier
#

Ohh thank you

still sinew
limber hull
#

he calls himself "fishhook", hides in a bush where no normal human being would ever look, and because hackers have the combined intelligence of a single cape buffalo, they run directly to him to fight him and get banned

that's one of many methods

still sinew
#

good. man, if bing bbee lined at in a bush from a mile off ain't the WORST. And everytime I'm left wondering how they could have EVER known I was there. lol

wooden agate
#

its totally not like a dev talked in general hours ago about implementing a fix for fish ai spawns or anything

definitely not

noble plaza
#

Those Bird AI is pretty stupid, they hit ya from extremely far away as a Juv make it impossible to deal with them at all

prime prairie
urban flax
#

dilo doesn't need a downsize, it's accurately-sized already

glacial mason
urban flax
#

google moment

prime prairie
limber hull
#

700kg is an absolutely accurate estimation

urban flax
#

Even if it wasn't, there is nothing to warrant a downsize to 400 kg

limber hull
#

i do agree with it getting a lower bite force

urban flax
#

balance-wise

limber hull
#

its weight absolutely isnt a problem

#

it can get folded by a pachy lol

glacial mason
prime prairie
limber hull
#

how

urban flax
limber hull
#

omniraptor is literally unrealistic by existing

limber hull
#

dilos are goddamn huge animals

prime prairie
#

if u miss one time ur stunned with every dinosaur on the altbite. then they can literally spamm bite u with 50% bite force of a carno and then u got venom too

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like no its not OP

limber hull
#

irl, they are VERY close to cerato in terms of size

urban flax
#

Like dilo was the apex of its time or smth

prime prairie
limber hull
urban flax
#

nor way

prime prairie
barren crater
prime prairie
#

omni isnt a real dinosaur

urban flax
limber hull
#

and no one is saying it should do that

#

it absolutely shouldn't

wooden agate
prime prairie
wooden agate
limber hull
#

in fact, cannibals make for better pack dinosaurs

barren crater
prime prairie
barren crater
#

WAIT NVM

#

I'M DUMB

wooden agate
#

bird do not SPEAK to me you ABANDONDED THE PARA HERD

i have not forgotten

limber hull
#

its crazy, pachy, teno and dryo are all in good spots

if only migrations weren't horrid

barren crater
prime prairie
limber hull
#

they're balanced

wooden agate
#

balance wise, they're probably some of the best dinosaurs in the game right now

prime prairie
#

yes. u cant add a dinosaur if it will destroy all other dinosaurs in the game.

limber hull
#

honestly this is one of the best patches for herbi balance, and if not for migrations being godawful, and dilo being... the way it is, it'd be fine

prime prairie
wooden agate
urban flax
#

everytime herbis have been balanced they are overshadowed by ONE op carni, sadly

barren crater
#

Yeah. I still want more from teno but for now it's perfect in the 'current meta'

limber hull
#

i was talking to sammy lol

wooden agate
#

henlo frog

i see we're rustling the feathers of general feedback once again

prime prairie
limber hull
#

but the worst part about herbis is migrations atm for sure

wooden agate
#

also the idea that dilo is 400kg

TI_Trollge

urban flax
#

It is at some point throughout its life

wooden agate
#

@tepid gate hi aken whats the most current (to your knowledge) dilo weight estimations

barren crater
limber hull
wooden agate
#

((i trust aken with my life, that man is consistently fighting tooth and nail in #paleotalk ))

urban flax
limber hull
#

herbis are SO close to being good, but I can forsee a hefty nerf

tepid gate
barren crater
#

Like keep the food timers. Just PLS let me have a longer diet timer

tepid gate
#

625/650/675kg something like that

wooden agate
#

thank u aken, u once again come to the rescue

tepid gate
#

it typically gets rounded up to 700kg afaik, it's also the only adult Dilophosaurus specimen there is

limber hull
tepid gate
#

all the others are youngling padawans

tepid gate
#

and you're welcome, off I go

barren crater
#

lol

wooden agate
limber hull
#

the mark twain image for 5 seconds lmao

wooden agate
#

pam beasly you consistently express exactly how i feel and i will forever love you for that

#

anyway yeah, dilo has problems.

however the weight isnt the issue at all. its mostly how venom application works and the lack of interactivity with it

prime prairie
#

So dilo would be great for the game.

-half of the biteforce from Carno
-Can spam bites
-poison takes away your vision (Takes years to go away)
-can spam you ghosts 3 times.
-faster than all other midsized Dinos
-takes u away the sniffing (no orientation)
-in comparison pachy is very loud. dilo is very, very quiet
-more stamina than most others.
-can spambite ur tail

All this things make Dilo much to OP. I mean some of this are really great. But giving Dilo all this features?? This is ridicilous

urban flax
#

Um
You wrote "can spam bites" twice and it's something all dinos can do

prime prairie
#

and if u can read. i said "I mean some of this are really great. But giving Dilo all this features??"

urban flax
#

Joke's on you I can't read

runic ridge
prime prairie
#

arty xd

wooden agate
urban flax
wooden agate
prime prairie
prime prairie
wooden agate
wooden agate
#

#general-feedback message

dilo venom begins at 70% now from what i've been hearing

herrera takes fall damage, just heavily reduced. it's meant to be jumping from trees, mind you.

dibble, trike, and maia are all next on the roster list

mental kindle
# wooden agate its totally not like a dev talked in general hours ago about implementing a fix ...

oh yeah? please forgive me if I dont waste my time on dilligently back-scrolling a thousand comments in which thread/ channel exactly again? Got a link?

They have an announcement channel, and it has neither been mentioned nor announced. just dropping a tidbit at a random place, is not community information.

Not to mention that they actively deleted, twice, my input about fish being still broken "because it was a reply" lol.

limber hull
wooden agate
prime jay
#

is anyone else struggling with the lag

latent seal
#

Ping is insane atm, and it has been for the past few days on all servers

wooden agate
pale prairie
urban flax
pale prairie
#

the purpose of this was not a suicide button, but simply to let players actually view and request eggs while in-game, not only during the typically 30 seconds or less window they spend on the character select screen.

#

"man nobody ever interacts with the nesting system" gee i wonder why.

wooden agate
#

yeah but functionally it's the same, it atleast offers the chance when you get stuck in a pit of something of the sort. it just also has more use than a suicide button

#

more so just throwing out more ideas how it could be used is all

it affects more than just nesting, which isn't a bad thing

#

#general-feedback message

if you really want to, you can buy merch in #merch-discussion via the links there.

dondi is pretty deadset on keeping the game at 20$ and not having anything cost more or things like that, which to me implies money is not a concern right now atleast. still, its nice that you're wanting to support smaller game creators!!

jagged ingot
#

Literally a hacker baby stego just murder me as full adult stego in 2 hits wtf😭

limber hull
#

@stone river not happening, they legit will not accept any kind of support beyond buying the game

#

they're also pretty deadset on not needing more money

stone river
prime prairie
proper berry
#

#general-feedback message

I do agree with fixing the AI spawns, I spawned three times this morning as two different species, and the fourth time was the only I hadn't died due to starvation.

I don't believe the envenomation should be changed (considering the dmg points) all too much, though I can get down on it being 50% growth. It doesn't matter to me either way really.

The hera's lack of fall damage does seem powerful, but depleting the power of this particular thing would have to be done with care, as nerfing it too much, as always, turns it into a crap dinosaur.

YES the dino prey tracking should be improved, I feel it's always been a hell of a problem, and I think fixing this may help with the issue on starvation.

jagged ingot
prime prairie
full pewter
#

@weak parrot I’ve found that reducing the fps limit greatly reduces the frequency of fatal errors. I keep mine at 60fps but I also have a good computer, so whatever works for you

weak parrot
full pewter
kindred minnow
#

I really think that the smaller the Carnivore, the more food you need to generate. The fact that I cant find fish, crab, or sea turtle to make it past a baby is a far cry away from where we were in April of last year when I was last playing this game. I really think we need to make more food available so people can grow dinosaurs and have the pvp's they crave as grown adult dinos. The is the isle, not the hunger games.

mental kindle
#

*hunger-while-sitting games. there, fixed it for you. 😄

light rock
limber hull
#

thats going to be a thing for dilo specifically

shy python
#

@stray dust you peaked with that suggestion bro it's epic ❤️

stray dust
urban flax
lost quarry
limber hull
#

also "promoting herd behavior in dinos like teno because a fatal bleed means you can't just 1v1 a cera and run off when you get low" has a similar energy to "herd animal, group up or die"

urban flax
sterile shale
limber hull
#

no other animal in the game right now is dropped to "unviable" for being solo, not even troodon or omni

#

so by doing that, you're effectively signing the death warrent for the herbivore playerbase, as limited as it already is

sterile shale
#

well perhaps there should be an easier way for herbivores to find each other?

limber hull
#

doesn't matter how easy it is to find another herbi if no one wants to play them because they suck the moment your friend logs out

#

just play a carni instead

sterile shale
#

well idk that's it's own issue

limber hull
#

hell, with the new AI system, carnivores are basically already better herbivores. Don't need to migrate, but get even more PvE food than herbis

sterile shale
#

yeah that's a good point,

limber hull
sterile shale
#

hmm true

#

but do you agree that the combat is too fast paced?

limber hull
#

not really, no

#

i dont think legacy was better, because legacy's combat could be even faster paced

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if a rex saw you, and you weren't an apex, and it bit you, you died

otherwise, you either ran or spent an eon trying to tailride it to death as a utahraptor, which didn't make the game feel "slow and strategic", it made it feel like a tailchase sim

sterile shale
#

yeahhh I guess, I don't think either combat system is great, they each have their own pros and cons

#

you're definately right though,

clever seal
#

@sterile shale did you see thie https://youtu.be/HHRKLB6f4fg?si=0S0ujE0-FdjGrzRs?

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sterile shale
#

No,

clever seal
#

it literally sumerizes what you have said

limber hull
#

i personally don't agree much with that vid at all lol, but then again i've really grown to dislike x zauger

clever seal
#

I take my own observations, but I do not really like the current combat, legacy combat felf like it had more weight to it.

#

like zippers said

#

its running around really fast praying you get bites in

limber hull
#

His "my relationship with the isle devs" video is completely full of misinformation to make him seem like the good guy, when I saw the actual events, and it was him having a full-on meltdown at Dondi, insulting him and his game straight to his face (Dondi had done nothing to prompt this needless aggression), and then getting banned after numerous requests to cool it

Then he edited down the entire situation to make him seem like the rational one to justify his ban

clever seal
#

its like every dino has a utah playstyle

clever seal
limber hull
sterile shale
#

I just feel like current combat is so thoughtless, there's no weight to it

clever seal
clever seal
limber hull
#

I find it feels far weightier and far more thoughtful than "I chase-a the tail until the beast stops moving"

clever seal
#

then theres also the thing about run cycles

#

every dino runs the same

#

its goofy

limber hull
#

what?

clever seal
#

and it takes away from their character.

limber hull
#

no they don't lol

clever seal
limber hull
#

legacy's run cycles look ABSURD lol

clever seal
#

they all bounce up and down rapidly now.

sterile shale
#

Aside from this,

limber hull
#

carno looks like its on a different plane of gravity with how slow it moves compared to its run

clever seal
clever seal
#

but herrera, utah, anything small all run the same

limber hull
#

unfortuantly when most of your animals are therapods, they're going to end up running mostly alike

#

same weight balance and whatnot

clever seal
clever seal
sterile shale
#

aside from running cycles I mean lol

limber hull
#

herrera has little, rapid taps where it dashes across the ground in an almost uncomfortable fashion, as if it's not ready to be on the ground

omni takes longer, leaping strides as it dashes more agile across the plains

troodon lowers its head and moves its legs quickly as it sprints forward

beipi folds its hands inwards as to carefully make sure its sharp claws are safely tucked away

dilo runs somewhat as an in between of carno and omni, putting a lot of its weight into its sprint, with long strides as well

clever seal
#

herrera needs its old run cycle and speed

limber hull
#

i disagree immensely

clever seal
#

i beg lmao they were so fun to zoom around with

limber hull
#

why would an arboreal creature need to move so fast on the ground

#

its already quite fast compared to the roster?

clever seal
#

that doesnt apply to real life arboreal species (all the time) for example jags, pine martin, leopards, varanids

limber hull
#

like in terms of speed, it's not far down

clever seal
#

I just miss being able to zoom

clever seal
sterile shale
#

I think it should be, can't lie

clever seal
limber hull
clever seal
#

eh its just my personal op

urban flax
#

Guys utah isn't in the game yet

limber hull
#

it has trees to scamper up from anything

clever seal
sterile shale
#

the herra has the ability to climb, if it's really fast

#

it's just untouchable

clever seal
clever seal
limber hull
#

that's just... not true

clever seal
#

ZOOOOM

sterile shale
clever seal
limber hull
#

sure, the stam is subpar, but it doesn't make it... bad in trees? Like it absolutely still can escape anything with the trees

clever seal
#

thats not what I meant

#

but its current playstyle is unviable with the stam, ik the speed take is bad its just cause I miss the old speed

limber hull
#

the only way to balance a herrera of that speed is to make its stam worse lol

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or keep it exactly the same

clever seal
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it just needs better stam tbh

limber hull
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then it can't be faster

clever seal
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ik

clever seal
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I get it, atm it just needs bettter stam, and better stam regen

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and perhaps fish on its diet

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but that kinda takes away from austro

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god I remember bullying austros as herrera on legacy, good days lmao

limber hull
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it has fish on its diet

clever seal
limber hull
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a while ago

clever seal
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define a while ago?

sterile shale
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I think that combat should have more meaning in the game, it's something the game lacks as it's so bare boned right now

limber hull
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i literally can't see how the combat is any more bareboned than legacy "bite tail till stop move"

urban flax
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The Isle has one of the best combat systems of any survival game
Bar V Rising

sterile shale
urban flax
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It just lacks some feedback to make it more satisfying
Hit sounds, lil stagger animations

clever seal
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legacy required more planning on engagements

limber hull
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EVRIMA also does that lol

clever seal
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nowadays you are forced to fight things or starve

sterile shale
clever seal
urban flax
limber hull
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ironically doom eternal requires careful planning, reactions and game knowledge to make work

sterile shale
limber hull
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try playing any of Doom Eternal's DLC levels without a plan or significant skill/game knoweldge and see how that goes

clever seal
limber hull
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it literally does

clever seal
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unless ur playing on the hardest difficulty

limber hull
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it is a game entirely about resource management

clever seal
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I didnt use half of the strats

limber hull
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again, ancient gods DLC on violent

clever seal
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I aint play allat

limber hull
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exactly

urban flax
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I mean
A game is always gonna be easy when you play it in easy mode

limber hull
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so don't make the comparison because you ironically just complimented EVRIMA's mechanical depth with that comparison

clever seal
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I played normal difficulty

clever seal
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not that a dilo has a shotgun

limber hull
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Which again does not mean planning is forfeit because combat is fast

clever seal
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but there is less of it in evrima

limber hull
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Ambushes are faster, hunts are more built around your ability to react to an extremely rapidly approaching animal, you're focusing more on your ability to think on the fly

In legacy, one can run behind a rex and immediately claim advantage

urban flax
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I'm gonna mention the fastest-paced game of 2023
Which also happens to be the most skill-expressive
SF6

limber hull
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It's more like true-to-life nature, where you have to think rapidly on the fly in a high-intensity moment

limber hull
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God I love that game

clever seal
limber hull
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When the game's resident grapplers also can fly from full-screen then hit you with a 16 frame grab, you'd best believe you gotta be fast

urban flax
limber hull
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Nature is more about the high-octane, split-second decisions that save you from life or death

clever seal
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at the end of the day its. a video game

limber hull
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And I think EVRIMA is the more fun videogame

clever seal
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then legacy?

limber hull
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Oh absolutely

clever seal
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in some aspects yes

limber hull
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Without competition, EVRIMA is the champion in all aspects for me

clever seal
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in some others nah

urban flax
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Legacy was more about planning because once the combat started there was nothing to do but spam bite
So all the thinking had to be done beforehand

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Now you can take decisions mid-fight

clever seal
limber hull
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Ironically, the planning was so much more interesting because the combat itself was so much worse. Once you got in there, you're... Pressing LMB and chasing a tail

clever seal
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I recall

limber hull
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Omniraptor alone requires insane positioning to even work

clever seal
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like every other creature

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that can move faster then a steg

limber hull
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You need people to be baiting attacks, some people at the flanks pouncing, you need to space yourself out to prevent counterattack

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I mean that's what happens when most of our roster are aggressive carnivores lmao

clever seal
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yeup

sterile shale
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there's not much coordination going on if ur with randoms

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because its everyone just sprinting and trying to pounce

clever seal
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is hit and run pounces are rare cause of the horrible stam

limber hull
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8 carnivores, 2 of which (cerato and deino) can be possibly not classified as flat out hunters

5 herbivores, 1 of which has few combat moves (hypsi), 1 of which is designed to hit and run (pachy), 2 of which have their most power from standing still in combat (dryo and stego) and 1 of which that is versatile in its approach and is the champion of EVRIMA's entire combat system (teno)

clever seal
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i should play teno again

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kangeroo of evrima

sterile shale
limber hull
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i mean... cera is supposed to literally counter raptors existence, but raptors can just leave so idk why the raptors insist on doing this

sterile shale
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especially now, omni is hardly viable with the whole "Wasting stam running around + pouncing" means they lose steam in a whole 2 minutes

strange shale
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ive been thinking about legacy vs evrima combat. No doubt evrima combat has more depth, but combat feels rushed. i wasnt that great at legacy combat, but the element of suprise gives you huge advantage. stalking and tracking was my favourite part!

sterile shale
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I do feel that it is too rushed,

limber hull
strange shale
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you missed the point

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my prey never saw me

limber hull
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okay but you can do that in EVRIMA too

sterile shale
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yes but does the game promote that gameplay?

strange shale
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rarely ever

limber hull
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i mean, it does it as much as Legacy did

sterile shale
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hypothetically you "could" do anything, but the game just makes it so much easier to pick fights with potentially little consequence, even if you do ambush someone they're more likely to just run away rather than try to fight back even I do that

strange shale
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yeah everything is soo fleety

sterile shale
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At least in legacy if there was a fight it was mostly to the death

limber hull
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i mean, legacy had lots of big, slow animals. EVRIMA has lots of little, fast animals. Of course you'd think there's a difference

limber hull
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in fact, I 'd argue the ability to flee makes the game better

sterile shale
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Yes but most the time there’s not really a successful hunt

limber hull
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But that's also not bad imho

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Hunts aren't generally successful, nor should they be

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The prey item should have an expectation of survival

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Otherwise the game because an uninteresting slog for anyone playing the prey side

strange shale
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same for the predator

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hunts are not satisfying most of the time

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so people kos

limber hull
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I never understand what's wrong with KOS

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If you can escape a hunt, you can escape a random KOSing bastard

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It's no different

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A hunt is KOS

sterile shale
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Give the predator a fighting chance for good

limber hull
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i managed to track a dilo for a massive distance with the current system

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finally killed him when he went to rest

sterile shale
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The current system can be a bit dodgy

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I think all hunts probably shouldn’t be to the death though I can agree with that,

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Honestly I just feel like there’s so many small things wrong with the current state of the game

strange shale
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right well my point is. legacy had a nice pacing to combat which i really enjoyed. most of that was done with jankyness, but it still emulated something that looked and felt pretty dinosaur/animal like. Ive had some good fights in Evrima for sure, mainly as cera vs utahs, the mechanics made the fight looks awesome. but those fights are far in between.

limber hull
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i dont think i've ever seen a legacy fight i haven't literally thought looked absolutely hysterically ridiculous

sterile shale
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Again, utahs have rarely been able to stand much of a chance against any big pray honestly

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They’re just so fragile and idk

limber hull
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literally like going to a dogpark and watching two cavoodles chasing each other's tails, except you're supposed to take it seriously because they're big scary rexes or whatnot

strange shale
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yeah again

limber hull
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i never once felt the game had anything resembling an animal-esque gameplay loop

strange shale
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thats insane

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opposite for me with evrima.

limber hull
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the combat immediately destroyed any immersion

strange shale
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the cera i just killed and respawned and found me to kill me again broke my immersion

limber hull
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my favourite playtime with legacy was dryo because of how little you engage with said combat

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legit, dryo is by far my favourite legacy animal

green root
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just bought the game yesterday and have been dying from starvation almost every time. Where are all the fish ? i have spend 7 hours in game and found 1 fish? Can someone please help me understand what im doing wrong ?

sterile shale
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Are you Petra?

limber hull
green root
sterile shale
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It’s basically dead so don’t play it rn

green root
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damn

sterile shale
limber hull
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nope, i think they're fine, just far more skill-based than what most players are used to

sterile shale
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But it requires a lot of stam the Omni doesn’t have most the time,

limber hull
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if you seriously think omni did a "whole lot of nothing" for a while, you have no idea how powerful it was on Gateway's launch

limber hull
sage sun
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@junior kite cue -> queue

limber hull
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manage stamina, prepare an ambush, try to actually go in with the resources you need to win

sprinting at your prey from across the plains, exhausting yourself and then dying will obviously get you killed

sterile shale
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I mean that rarely happens with randoms and I don’t have friends with this game lmao

sterile shale
limber hull
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i mean that's why i can't agree legacy requires more planning

sterile shale
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Alright well still, if the average player can barely use Omni,

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Plus it’s difficult to manage stam when you run out so quickly, and it’s hard to fight any prey without sprinting, can exactly just walk up to something and pounce on it

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Let alone the fact that pouncing eats your stam for breakfast lunch and dinner for what?

hexed timber
limber hull
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its not a competition lol

hexed timber
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no no no

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u said it takes skill now to play raptor, wb dilo?

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cuz u placed a X on my suggestion to balance it, do you happen to play it?

limber hull
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nope

hexed timber
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may i know what you disagree with

limber hull
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i've played dilo once, didn't like it, stopped playing

hexed timber
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same, too easy

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didnt give me my rush of blood

limber hull
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dilo is not "double the size of what it's meant to be", it's accurately weighted, what you see as first result on google doesn't mean it's right

hexed timber
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i heard it, i didnt google anything, as i wrote extra: good chance im wrong

limber hull
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also, i disagree with a speed nerf

hexed timber
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how so

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ud get more mobility in return and lose 1km/h ?

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it allows raptors to "exist"

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u know, just to "exist" nothing else

limber hull
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i think dilo would be fine with a simple damage nerf and venom time nerf

hexed timber
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idk ive been playing raptor the last 2-3 weeks and i know firsthand very well, Dilo is overtuned

limber hull
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as well as making it so you can destroy clones after they've done the hissing without trading

hexed timber
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there is no way i can just take down carnos ceras etc and then kill a dilo , and i die 4 minutes after cuz i was barely purple at the end of the dogfight

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tbh, the clones thing i agree with you

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but i dont think they are well balanced at all, im just stopping the cap, it was a fun update , i sucked it up at first and kept trying to find ways to deal with it from a raptor pov, and i can tell you the average mf doesnt stand a chance

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not even to simply flee from them i mean with that aswell

sterile shale
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Is dilo really faster than raptor?

hexed timber
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i suppose the lightest nerf possible i would be okay with, would be simply be the duration of it, and the hallucinations being a visual representation of the toxic in your body cool, but honestly it also doesnt work, how come i am suddenly immune to the poison if i jump on a wall :^) ?

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magic cure?

sterile shale
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That’s true

hexed timber
sterile shale
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The clones thing Is kinda stupid, it gives a mild scare at best for the first one and after that you’re just sitting waiting it off

sterile shale
hexed timber
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im kinda done with the hallucination thing, just put a DOT on me and let me slowly tick to death, better then minding my own bissness and suddenly 4 min later surprise! you been healing for 4 min, but here is finally a passive clone i stillhad and BAM dead 😂

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i crack up

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"balanced"

sterile shale
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I feel like raptors, for such thought and planning required for any amount of success, have been given as many disadvantages as possible to ensure no one has fun playing it

hexed timber
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yup

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i think the raptor dislike grew strong

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with the bucking being broken

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and now they have to deal with just dying to clones and then being silenced for speaking up, because hey if we have a emp spino then this effect is legit

sterile shale
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Pounce doesn’t work, runs out of stamina too quick, the dilo is faster than it for some reason? Die fairly easily (especially from a messed up pounce),

hexed timber
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it gets better bro

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if u pounce a dilo, u run out of stam in 5 sec

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only on a dilo this happens

sterile shale
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I mean sure I’ve faced omnis and the bleed can get a little worrying, but Half the time they run out of stam and I just go heal it off

hexed timber
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best part is, and this is to dondi, i can still kill them 🙂

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but this is way too much

limber hull
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dondi doesn't hate raptors lol

sterile shale
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I think omnis are the only ones who can really use bleed to kill Dinos but run out of stam before they’re able to put any pressure on them

hexed timber
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i dont use pounce anymore

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for me its a useless ability that i litterally only use to jump rlly far forward ( from 1 cliff to another for ex)

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its a fun little jump utility, but i wont use it in a fight, completely wasting my stam. I pounce a cera man has 70% hp left, i got 0% stam left, i biteforce it to death i got like 30% stam left

sterile shale
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Does a pounce really do 30% damage??

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I feel like it does less honestly

hexed timber
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oh yeah 1% per second give or take

old spindle
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If you hold on for 30 seconds

hexed timber
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on dilo it does 4% per sec , i should say that

sterile shale
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Oh it’s a death wish if you’re pouncing for 30 seconds

old spindle
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Yeah

hexed timber
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nah it works

sterile shale
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You may as well just feed yourself to the cera

hexed timber
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pachy needs to be done like that actually or u cant possibly win

old spindle
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Cera is like built to murder Omni's and troodons anyway with its agility

hexed timber
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dump your stam in pachy on pounce, and then u can alt bite it to death if u tailblock the bonks

sterile shale
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Oh well pachy is different, you don’t really want to give it the chance to bonk

hexed timber
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exactly

sterile shale
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Or give it any space really

hexed timber
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since it can break ur bones and disable your jump/pounce

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its best to right off the bat dump ur entire bar into it

sterile shale
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But a cera is different, which is why I mean Omni can’t hunt big prey for anything

hexed timber
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then 3 alt bites or 4 will kill it

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hm?

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whats different about cera, they are quite fun to fight

old spindle
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Cera is doable it's just difficult

hexed timber
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true, patience is required

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and sometimes im like ZOOMZOOMZOOM wich means its a bad day to go after ceras

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but yeh np with those , managed to kill a sub yesterday and make the adult flee

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🤭

sterile shale
hexed timber
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here i posted a comp, first fight bit of a doozy i feel that cera gave me too many free hits... but in general there is 4 ceras in that vid

old spindle
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I've figured out how to be the perfect Juvie murderer as troodon now

hexed timber
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do share me your dark secrets

old spindle
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Run around for a second then press crouch at night

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You basically become invisible to other animals unless they r on top of you

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So you can attack, dip and crouch near the juvie and the adult will be searching

hexed timber
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oh yeah , u know those little palmtree plants? ( i call em that cuz its just lowered palmtrees) , u can sit under those leaves andbe gone

sterile shale
old spindle
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Ngl once I saw him talking abt how he plays Omni and was like wow u must have watched the same YouTube video I did

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It was his video.

hexed timber
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xD

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thanks ;.; ❤️

sterile shale
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But the average Omni player is far from that,

hexed timber
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yeh they die to dilos 😦

sterile shale
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I doubt they could solo a fg cera haha

old spindle
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So what your saying is... skill issue?

sterile shale
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Pretty much lmao

hexed timber
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mhm, but on the contrary the dilo wont need skill to perform as good

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i feel at least

sterile shale
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I mean I’ve played cera and killed many raptors because they’re just clueless

hexed timber
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give it a try, run around on a fg dilo , facetank a few hits (dont be completely dumb about it) till purple and then try to win by sending clones

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and staying like 30-40m out of range

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u can even sit down and stand up every 30 sec to send 3

old spindle
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At what percentages is Omni faster?

hexed timber
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50% growth