valheim-chat

[agile star]

Sorry early in the morning I did not see your previous message lol

[tacit crystal]

Missing your coppa of coffa?

[agile star]

I never drink coffee maybe that's the problem, probably a RATATOSK mead might wake me up🤣

[tacit crystal]

8am here and enjoying mine.

[agile star]

On another topic, I am loving the new bear set, what are your opinions on it?

[tacit crystal]

Same, loving it. 🧸

[fossil delta]

I agree it is very good. Arguably the best set to use for that stage of the game.

[chrome badge]

Bear set and bear fist weapons are a must for me on any playthrough now.

[agile star]

Yes I agree, when I get to the swamp I grab 20 iron real quick to make the Iron Pickaxe so I can get 4 obsidian from the Mountains to get the final workbench upgrade to upgrade the armor and the Bear Paws to tier 4. Then the Swamp is a piece of cake

I tend to wear the root mask tho to avoid using poison resistance meads if I can help it, but using the Bear Paws I am destroying the abominations, easily parrying them as well

[chrome badge]

The nice thing about fist weapons, you don't have any slow down, so you can circle enemies very quickly for the backstab.

Enemies like the Oozer or the Blobs that poison will want to "face" you, so you can keep them from attacking by circling behind them.

In this way you could avoid using poison meads.

Ratatosk + Fist Weapons are brutal against slow turning Lox in the Plains.

[tacit crystal]

Backstab, you say?

-# Fighting urge to post link to the same clip again.

[agile star]

You could wear the full bear set and going full backstab or you can just wear the root mask and run in there and destroy everything

[agile star]

Yeap

[chrome badge]

Dewit

[agile star]

If you manage to backstab an abomination omg

[tacit crystal]

Okay, as requested.

#memes-and-clips message

[chrome badge]

Also, I would always want the set bonus for the damage/regen increases.

[chrome badge]

So satisfying every time ✊

I find the Vile set is much more punishing than the Bear set, currently using it and Deathsquitos do so much pierce damage with +25%.

[agile star]

Yeah those bonuses especially the stamina regen are pretty handy

[agile star]

Yeah you gotta be aware and block or parry them with your shield

[chrome badge]

That's not always possible when you're taking on a Fuling encampment, especially when a 2 star berserker is in the mix.

My first death this playthrough happened because two deathsquitos flew up on me at the same time while fighting that 2 star berserker. I was full health and they just two tapped me like nothing while wearing the Vilebone set.

[wintry valve]

The trick with fuling encampments is to kill them

[heady parcel]

They are useful as protection or distraction. I try to stay aware of where I have the closest dvergr camp when I am exploring in Mistlands. Can save me a lot of arrows to let the dvergr handle gjall, for example. Also gjall are good at blasting blue jute from towers, and the dvergr need to be at home for that to happen.

[heady parcel]

The Queen is Dead, Long Live the Queen! Gods that fight gets me worked up, I'm sweating

[obsidian nymph]

For killing bears, do you guys just use like a bronze hatchet and wear a torch?

[agile star]

That's why whenever you are taking on a fulling camp you activate bonemass

Or you switch your helmet and put on a padded helmet to avoid the weakness, lose the benefits of the full set but do not get movement speed penalties

[tacit crystal]

Axe is good enough, sword can be more effective due to better secondary attack and faster attack pattern.

[open bolt]

For no reason at all, I decided to sail to the Deep North (even knowing that it technically doesn't exist yet), and it has no music ofc, probably because it will only have a sound track after the release. We can only hear the wind.
But then I thought that maybe they could actually make it silent. With no music at all. To contrast with the other biomes so far.
It is actually quite scary how empty and silent it is rn. So, maybe the devs could keep it silent. With only the sound of the wind. It would actually be pretty cool imo. Just a thought ^^ 🗻

[heady parcel]

They could go with a more subtle soundtrack that takes longer pauses. For example, the music will often pause in the late night just before dawn when it is at its darkest. Makes it a little extra scary, especially on misty nights and you know there are sneaky nightspawned fulings around that can pop out of nowhere.

[agile star]

Flint axe or torch or both if you are going from the Meadows to the Black Forest. After my first 2 bear kills I make the Bear Paws tier 2 and fight the bears with that weapon

[exotic silo]

Just flint knives or spear. They're pretty ez to fight with fast speed weapons.

[jade fractal]

Hey im just curious, whats the balancing decision around not being able to teleport with ores?

[agile star]

They are resistant to blunt and pierce, the best meadows weapon to use is the flint axe

[fluid cove]

so that sailing and carting that stuff around would be the challenge

otherwise you would just pop a portal next to a mining site and not fussing about the logistics of taking it back home

[jade fractal]

ohhh yeah that makes sense, fair enough

[fluid cove]

spoiler: ||you will unlock a portal type that allows metal transport in the lategame biome||

[jade fractal]

guessing ores are the main source of power progression right?

[jade fractal]

HECK YE

[fluid cove]

otherwise if you're too lazy or cant be arsed to do the metal transport you can always change ur world settings to allow it

[fluid cove]

yeah

[agile star]

After your first playthrough, if you are planing on starting new playthroughs I advice changing your world modifier to allow portals to be able to transfer anything even the ores. But up to you

[fluid cove]

but for the first playthrough, having to do it manually everytime is pretty much the rite of passage for every Vikings

either

1. mine at mining sites and manually transport them back
2. bring every smelting and smithing building materials and smelt/smith in-situ

one thing to remember is, refined metal weighs more than the unrefined ore for some reason

[jade fractal]

awesome awesome, thanks for the help!

[agile star]

I got almost 1300 hours in this game so at this point I got that option to transport anything with portals always on, I am on my 11th playthrough maybe I don't even know

[fluid cove]

i enjoy sailing, building ports and canals and all that so I still dont turn that setting on

[agile star]

Yeah you play the game how you like to play it. I just have one main base and I call it a day

Only adding a Mistlands farm and a plains farm if needed

[fluid cove]

lmao thats fair

i like building a base in every biome next to the sea

thats generally how I play in every playthrough

except the Mountains bcs I never find it fun there (and no sea access makes ore transport a huge PITA)

[agile star]

That's fair, that way you spend more hours on a playthrough. For myself, each new playthrough I play a bit faster but still upgrading to the max the gear I make

[open bolt]

That's also true 🤔
😅 the damn fulings 🤦‍♀️ haha

[exotic silo]

is it forbidden to use them just because the bear is resistant to it?

[agile star]

It is not forbidden but the best meadows weapon against the bear is the flint axe, the others do not do any damage to the bear and the Bear has huge amounts of hp so it will take much longer

[exotic silo]

well, I never said it's the best weapon.

best as in statistically

[agile star]

It is not easy to fight with a knife or a spear because it takes twice as long to kill the bear

The easiest is just standing on a burial chamber and shooting fire arrows to it

[exotic silo]

I just told them what I use. and bear turn slowly, so u can literally circle it while i's rotating clumsily

[agile star]

You burn so much stamina doing that tho

[exotic silo]

bro, u need to read the question again. u r too fixated on "what's best".
OP just asked what people use. and diff people use diff weapons.

[agile star]

I see ok

Well I responded to you because you said that using the knife or the spear on the bear is easier but I disagree

Unless you using a bronze buckler and you can parry all the bear' s attacks then I guess it does not matter what you use

[exotic silo]

bro, u need to read again, honestly. not everyone is against u.

[heady parcel]

I advice shutting off portals entirely... 😬 (But, seriously, I also recommend anyone starting out to play at least one playthrough 100% vanilla, and then once they know the game the can start messing around with world modifiers, and other unmentionables should they wish).

[agile star]

Totally different game if you shut portals entirely, you gotta have a moving base or something lol

[agile star]

Ok fair enough

[agile star]

I agree that fast weapons are easy against the bear, but the fast weapons that do slash damage like the Bear Paws or swords

[heady parcel]

Yeah I have like three main bases at this point. Just killed the queen so it's Ashlands next - but I plan to activate portals and pretend stone portals are the only ones that exist, and I can only have one outside of Ashlands. No way I'm taking on Ashlands without portal, the drakkar is no fun to sail with...

[agile star]

Sounds like a nice balanced challenge, no portals until Ashlands

I am not gonna do it ever but just saying

[chrome badge]

Oh I had bonemass active, my point is that I was blindsided and that you can't always just block or be aware.

[agile star]

True, it can happen sometimes, 2hp foods or 1 hp food?

[agile star]

Because 2 deathsquitos cannot kill you if you have 2 hp foods eaten

[paper marsh]

What about using catapults instead of portals?

[plush umbra]

I did a side-by-side comparison of Skull Splittur, Himminafl, Krom and the Demolisher, since Mistlands gives us all 4 2h weps to actually give a side-by-side comparison.

I found that the Skull Splittur seems ridiculously undertuned, having a high stamina cost, lower damage compared to Krom/Demolisher, but also the same movement penalty as Demolisher. Krom just outclasses this battle-axe in every way. Even the Himminafl, with lower damage, has higher speed/lower stamina costs to offset, and of course it has lightning. What's the rationale for the battle-axe being so undertuned compared to the other weapons? Especially one added later on.

[paper marsh]

I do wish battle axes were better. At least the movement penalty on them got reduced a bit

One thing they have going for them is that you don't need to take up an additional inventory slot to chop down wood

[chrome badge]

Oh they can if you have been fighting for too long, but yeah HHS.

[nocturne wolf]

How would you change them?

[chrome badge]

Battleaxes have insane crowd control, I mained Crystal Battleaxe on pre-nerf ashlands and nothing could get near me with the secondary.

[paper marsh]

I haven't had enough time with them recently so not too sure, but I think making them (along with other two hand weapons) -10% movespeed would be a good step. Nerfing atgeirs would help bring battleaxe power up comparatively but that's a whole diff issue

Haven't seen skull splitr before, but if its damage really is lacking maybe up it? Can't speak much to that.

[vernal karma]

has anyone here ever dug under a whole copper vein without hitting the vein or destroying it? do they ever generate that far above ground?

[agile star]

Well it can happen, not the armor' s fault

[real pike]

yes

[chrome badge]

I didn't say it was, I'm saying comparatively the negatives are more punishing in the plains biome.

Which is another way of saying minor mistakes can be punished more easily.

[agile star]

Yeah true but you did have bonemass so there were no negatives

Unless you compare it to the padded armor which gives you 30 more armor but -10% movementspeed

[chrome badge]

There were, because bonemass ran out just as I finished clearing the fuling village, and then they struck.

[agile star]

I see ok

Yeah it can happen

[silk token]

I did the same during the PTB, krom is of course best vs single targets with that secondary move, but I actually found battleaxe better against multiple enemies, because that’s what it’s for. It’s also pretty good at controlling the battlefield, smacking away starred asksvins and charred soldiers. It does struggle in Ashlands because the other thing it does is stagger enemies, but charred barely get staggered, so in a land where things don’t really get staggered of course a thing that staggers is bad. and yeah against both large mobs it’s hot garbage, that much is very true

[chrome badge]

It was especially painful, as I was perfectly dodging this 2 star fuling berserker for about 3 minutes, and just as I triumphed, two deathsquitos out of nowhere.

[silk token]

but I spammed me against three charred soldiers with krom and skull splitter probably 100 times seeing which I liked better, because krom had also just got its multi target penalty removed. i’ll still take skull splitter over krom vs multiple charred

[gray sand]

BA has higher block armor than 2H swords iirc.

[plush umbra]

I guess this is also why it seems underwhelming in the Mistlands, as well... Besides fighting ticks from a Gjall, I wasn't in many situations where I needed to clear a field or control space like that. The mines are so tight that Krom can hit multiple things in choke points, Himminafl has more consistent range, and if you REALLY want to push things back/aoe, demolisher just does so much damage and knockback that what you're left with is a Skull Splittur that can do a little bit of all those things but doesn't really excel at any of them enough to be worth the trade-off.

I think giving it an additional magical damage type would probably be the thing that "balanced" it IMO- maybe poison damage like the 1h axe from mistlands. The model has a glowy edge so I expected there to be something. A lot of Mistlands enemies resist all physical damage, which is one of the things Himminafl brings, despite its lower damage. I think Skull Splittur would be a more attractive choice if it offered some of its total damage as poison, or even had a bonus spirit damage component allowing it to be viable in Ashlands.

[paper marsh]

I mean that's just entirely up to your armor, tier of food, and difficulty setting

Personally if I'm not wearing root harnesk I'd be surprised to survive a double deathsquito hit. And I tend to run 2+ hp foods

[tacit crystal]

No poison for Skull Splittur! 🙅‍♂️

[plush umbra]

Is there a particular reason for that, or....?

[paper marsh]

Poison kinda sucks because it's DOT damage but doesn't stack. So if you hit an enemy 3 times really quickly with a poison weapon, you're doing as much poison damage as if you hit them once

Whereas fire and I believe spirit will keep on stacking the damage no matter how fast you hit

It's part of why the 1 hand axe in mistlands sucks

[plush umbra]

Well a battle-axe isn't a particularly "fast" weapon so is it that bad?

[paper marsh]

Battleaxe hits faster than how long poison dot lasts

[silk token]

battleaxe is amazing in mines, i posted a blackmetal battleaxe vs mines video a while back, it just cleared everything in front of me. idk how you think krom is better in tight spaces thats completely false, battleaxes dont suffer from wonky sword mechanics battleaxe hits everything always.

[paper marsh]

I think it lasts probably like 4-5 seconds?

And you probably hit someone every second or faster with the battleaxe?

[plush umbra]

Maybe I just don't know how to battle-axe then 💀

[silk token]

i’m also not at all interested in putting poison on skull splitter, it would only remind me that jotun’s bane exists and we don’t speak of that weapon

[paper marsh]

I mean its not terrible if you just give more poison damage to compensate. Like mistwalker gets 10 frost, skull splitr gets 35 poison

Idk. Could also just make poison like fire where it stacks. Feels like an odd difference

[silk token]

you might not 🤷‍♂️😂

[plush umbra]

I just feel like on paper, skull splittur lacks the raw stat advantage that any of the other 3 Mistlands 2h offer. I tried all 4 out since it's the only tier that offers all 4 2h weps as a side-by-side comparison. And all the others at least felt like they "worked" at that level about the same. I felt behind on skull splittur though.

So idk maybe skill issue then

But when I compared the numbers I was surprised how low its base stats were compared to Krom/Demo

[tacit crystal]

As Snail explained, but also poison doesn't add to stagger which would make the battleaxe even worse.

[mild kestrel]

is there an issue with valheim rightnow?

[silk token]

I mean, honestly go search the clips channel for “battleaxe” and look at the one where I used a blackmetal battleaxe in the mines, not even skull splitter, it was absurd.

[mild kestrel]

we can't seem to connect to our paid server >//<

[paper marsh]

I'd assume that would be more likely to be an issue with whoever you're hosting the server with

But I'm not aware of whetehr there are/aren't any outages rn

[chrome badge]

Battleaxe secondary is my favorite secondary by far, massive stagger and knockback. If they don't stagger, your next hit will, and the following primary attacks will be massive damage.

[silk token]

I think you’re forgetting the stagger and the playstyle. I take great comfort in knowing that if I swing my battleaxe it’s going to stagger all the bugs in front of me. if I swing a krom it might, it might hit just the bug that’s very close to me and not the two other bugs that can still hit me

[merry pebble]

I would look at the server for an issue honestly 🤔

[mild kestrel]

looking at it rn. it says says server maintenance :'<

[plush umbra]

Maybe this is the thing I'm missing- I notice you get the luxury of playing a lot more aggressively than with a Krom. with Krom I gotta kind of "duel"/parry enemies but you can just prepare swings on the axe as seen here.

[merry pebble]

There you go 😄

[silk token]

yeah krom with parry and secondary attack just deletes things. It’s ridiculous and it is better than anything else literally 1v1

Battleaxe can be aggressive, but also defensive. The secondary is great to say if you’re fighting a bunch of goblins, but there’s a two star goblin in there. Whenever it gets close, just boop it with a secondary and say wait your turn goblin

[paper marsh]

Anything else 2 handed, or anything else?

[plush umbra]

I wasn't considering how much the axe staggers. I thought that was somehow tied to damage and just -assumed- that Krom would have similar deleting power like that. I also tend to use the axe secondary a lot more since it's faster, and bc it does a lot of knockback I find it harder to follow-up on single targets.

There's definitely some more technical "finesse" to a battleaxe that's hard to put into words.

[tacit crystal]

Anything else, as no other weapon has as high damage number as 2h swords.

[silk token]

I would say ANYTHING else. being able to parry a seeker soldier, jump behind it and do over 1000 damage with the thrust and just one shot it? Nothing else does that.

[chrome badge]

Knock em back, jump and swing, negating a lot of the primary wind up time with the "flying" first swing.

This playstyle is best with a decent skill level of course.

[gray sand]

The stat diff is that BA's have higher block armor.

[silk token]

ya battleaxe basic attacks do bonus stagger damage, it staggers and cleaves all in your way that’s its job. lacking against SOME large mobs, but great for stunlocking multiple bersekers for example. it’s just these large mobs that barely stagger or have a weak spot behind them and stuff where krom really shines

[plush umbra]

So with a sword, I'm able to balance stam/hp food. Would I need to focus on a more stamina-heavy build to properly battle-axe? Is it more of a glass cannon weapon than a 2h sword?

I'm assuming if the stam cost per swing is higher, and apparently jump-strikes are really effective here.

[nocturne wolf]

jump attacks are effective on all weapons

animations don't slow you off the ground

[tacit crystal]

I like to use HSF foods nowadays with battleaxes.

[silk token]

i’ve not found that to be the case, I use three health still. Now that parry is free, especially…😩😩😩🙄🙄🙄🙄

lol I see your little mushrooms😂 😂😂

[plush umbra]

It's a shame ashlands doesn't have a battle-axe because I have a fully-upgraded lightning slayer now.

[paper marsh]

I think my fear with Krom is just being unable to parry things

[plush umbra]

Maybe I just go practice with skull splittur in the ashlands

[nocturne wolf]

you don't always need to parry things

[paper marsh]

But I think that's more of a me issue because of world difficulty

You do if you want the big damage

[nocturne wolf]

jumping over/around enemies and hitting sword secondaries can get good damage safely. That's how I use a silver sword against starred charred warriors.

[silk token]

I did use some stamina foods mistlands… just so much jumping… I think I had one stamina two health in mistlands with battleaxe

[paper marsh]

I tried triple hp food blood 2h sword in ashlands running around at low hp one time. Felt very fun

Don't think my sword skill was very high though

[silk token]

I think you’re just supposed to switch to berserker axes, which I think are the new best single target damage weapon in ashlands, so axes do kind of a weird flip at that point.

but honestly, I kind of prefer the 2 hand sword playstyle and moveset
over berserker axes, hot take I kind of hate the berserker axes attacks.

[plush umbra]

I'm a 2h weapon guy. I like swinging a big weapon rather than 2 lil' ones.

Unless it's knives. dual knives are super fun.

Knife was my go-to for the longest time in this game. stealth takedowns are a ton of fun

[nocturne wolf]

I don't like them too, try using flametal berserkir axes against lord reto
If the enemy is too strong to parry or stagger the long delay at the end means I can only really hit one primary attack at a time and deal terrible damage. The secondary attack is also too weak with 1.5x damage.

[silk token]

yeah, I expected the secondary to be a little better. And the attack is deceivingly slow. If you do just the first attack for the berserker axes and spam dodge roll it takes like two seconds before you’re allowed to do anything with yourself

[heady parcel]

A bit so-so precisionwise. Plus I need to sack a few fortresse before I get one...

[plush umbra]

I hope the deep north includes a knife in its weapon library. I like the idea of sneaking around the woods jumping whatever's out there.

[paper marsh]

Wouldn't be surprised if Deep North included most/all weapon types

[nocturne wolf]

deep north only gets a pickaxe but it's significantly stronger than all ashlands weapons

[paper marsh]

Maybe not all weapons as in "1hand axe, 2hand axe, 2hand axes". But like there should at least be an axe there. And a sword. And an atgeir. etc.

[plush umbra]

I tried this initially with blood shield/blood 2h sword and a pair of hp foods. It felt pretty good but I like the consistency of the lightning.

[nocturne wolf]

Bloodstone is the only consistent gemstone effect what do you mean

[paper marsh]

I do wish blood was better for the risk you have to take

[gray sand]

Harder Antler Pickaxe.

[tacit crystal]

This is consistent. 👉 🎰

[plush umbra]

I'm playing a "death knight" kind of build now in the ashlands that uses dead raiser/blood shield, and a 2h weap. food is 1 hp/1 stam/1 eitr and it's been a blast.

[nocturne wolf]

If you have the blood shield swap that hp food for more eitr

[gray sand]

Hybrid builds 😭

[paper marsh]

The one weapon I feel like does decent with bloodstone effect is crossbow

Oneshotting valkyries is very nice

[paper marsh]

shush you

Hybrid build best build

[gray sand]

That is objectively not true 😭
Even though best is subjecthive. 😁

[plush umbra]

Maybe it's not "optimal" but marching through the ashlands feeling like an undead warlord is very satisfying.

I do also carry a crossbow for taking out the valks and distant targets.

[paper marsh]

It just feels so much more engaging/fun to me to mix melee and magic

[tacit crystal]

I went hybrid into PTB Ashlands.

[nocturne wolf]

silver sword works well together with magic in ashlands for good damage against charred/valkyries and low stamina cost

[paper marsh]

Melee is fun. Full mage is ehh

Combat mage is perfect

[plush umbra]

I did full mage in mistlands and enjoyed it a lot. Getting the vine staff in the ashlands trivialized magic to the point it stopped being fun

[gray sand]

The good magic is currently boring to me.

[lone rampart]

I enjoy full mage but my play style is generally “stand far away and kill things” 🤣

[plush umbra]

Just spamming vines and kiting dudes into them is so ridiculously overpowered.

[silk token]

i’ve done that build I love it. even bigger 2 hand sword thrusts, and a little minions distracting things long enough that you can just kill everything

[paper marsh]

I might have to actually start using swords. All this Krom talk and low stamina silver sword cost sounds nice for a 0-0.5x stamina food build

[gray sand]

Lightning and Frost are cooler than the bland, overdone Fireball.

But both of my preferred options are just.. bad. So I shall remain a pure viking.

[paper marsh]

I'm a big fan of the ice staff

Never was too much for embers, though its strong af

[tribal citrus]

Hey I have a question how many boss in valheim?

[plush umbra]

I will say- even though it's kind of a meme weapon, dundr is a blast to use (no pun intended)

[nocturne wolf]

Seven bosses, one for each biome

[gray sand]

7 currently.

Will be 8.

[tribal citrus]

In Ashland too?

[gray sand]

Frost needs to gain accuracy with skill level and it will be usable.

[plush umbra]

Ashlands has a boss, yes

[paper marsh]

^ Each boss comes with their own biome. So one boss per biome (except Ocean).

There's smaller "minibosses" too

[nocturne wolf]

It shouldn't be innacurate and just loses damage with range instead
it already has damage variance, why does it need more rng?

[gray sand]

No, we are all lying to you because it is fun....

[plush umbra]

I like that some spells are more like a shotgun, and some are more like artillery

but the vine staff just breaks balance in every way.

[gray sand]

Nothing should have damage variance, but that's a whole other discussion.

[nocturne wolf]

summoned vine attacks have a higher tool tier than any boss attack

[plush umbra]

On the server I'm playing with currently, our preferred method of clearing fortresses is to build up a high siege tower to get a POV inside the fort, then drop trolls inside.

[plush umbra]

What do you mean by this

[nocturne wolf]

They have tool tier 4 which I believe is the requirement for black marble, soft tissue and yggdrasil trees

[gray sand]

How did you die?
Enemy that normally takes 6 hits randomly didn't die in 6 hits so they got an attack off, stunlocked me, and their partner nuked me.
Yes, isn't random damage fun and engaging???

🤬🤬

[paper marsh]

Doesn't that get boring?

[plush umbra]

It does. I keep trying to suggest we use catapults and battering rams instead

[nocturne wolf]

why is inaccuracy ok but not damage variance? Missing a projectile to lose ALL damage from it is better than losing a little bit of damage on the variance?

[vernal karma]

why is the wood shield 6 armor, and flint spear 4, and both are equal on parry :p

[nocturne wolf]

Don't question the balance of blocking items nobody understands it

[gray sand]

Accuracy being gained with skill is, to me, the same variance as draw time on the bow.
Because if you let the arrow go too soon it is random within that wide circle.
Circle drops faster with skill.
Frost Staff basically just has that circle at all times, so it should also get smaller with skill the way bows do.

And as for it not being pinpoint, I just think of it like having recoil 🤷‍♂️ That's normal accuracy variance.

[gray sand]

Can't understand something that doesn't exist 😏😉

[tacit crystal]

I had just looked that on wiki, blackmetal pickaxe has tool tier 3.

[nocturne wolf]

What objects need tool tier 4 then? Maybe nothing

[tacit crystal]

Afaik yes.

Tool tier 5 is for the Ram and seemingly Seeker soldier, Asksvin, Wild vine and Queen are only ones with tier 4.

[gray sand]

Enemies shouldn't have tool tiers 😭😭

[paper marsh]

I feel like its cool that enemies can knock down trees and stuff

[nocturne wolf]

The queen doesn't have tool tier 4

[nocturne wolf]

Summoned vines are friends though

[chrome badge]

Seems to me things are tested within their biomes so they might be usable to varying degrees, but not infallible.

[tacit crystal]

[molten agate]

anyone else have issues with playfab service? ie my game and my server cant connect to playfab all the sudden, / cant get join codes....

[nocturne wolf]

Maybe it was changed at some point but if pickaxe tier 4 doesn't do anything, why change it?

[timber spindle]

Yall im new and im trying to start a serv with anyone

So yall down?

[nocturne wolf]

Make or find a post in #1024264966712340510

[timber spindle]

Ok thanks

[chrome badge]

Someone had mentioned their hosting service was down for maintenance earlier, this might have been playfab? I can't be sure though.

[molten agate]

playfab is the relay service that allows you to host without opening a port

[chrome badge]

As I said, I can't be sure.

[silk token]

i did the troll staff thing once, it was funny. but the most fun is battering ram. “whatever comes through that gate…”(however the lotr quote ends) you could also have one of your friends with a catapult lined up and try to bomb them as they come out of the door, or fire staves and bombs to blow them up in the choke. when I break open the doors solo, sometimes I set up four or five ballistas and put down bear traps, also fun building a siege counter-fortress like that, spikes and traps and ballistas and just battle the horde that comes out

[paper marsh]

That last one sounds very fun ngl

Sometimes I like to pretend I'm a lil' vikin skydiving out of plane to assault a fortress (when really I just launched myself with a catapult)

[plush umbra]

My campaign to get my server friends to catapult didn't go very well. I had taken a position and was firing, but it stopped hitting the lower part of the wall and so I went to adjust it, but got swarmed by enemies who pushed/flipped the catapult over into a lake of lava next to the fort...

So now they're like "that was kind of underwhelming. Let's just keep using trolls".

Our first trollstav fortress I got them up on the top of the center tower and filmed it. I'll have to upload the footage later.

[silk token]

catapult is pretty useless, it’s way too hard to aim it and then when you do it just moves itself every shot, i hate it. maybe they’d accept battering ram? or just secretly make one yourself and charge the gate and yell LEEEROYYYYY

[pure berry]

People just love ruining this game I tell ya..... Guess playing at your own pace means make sure you don't get better things than them... Makes people wicked jealous smh

[lone rampart]

Ok so now you’re just gonna post the same thing in multiple channels instead of explaining. Cool story bro.

[pure berry]

Posted in the wrong channel jack wagon .. and this is why everyone is quitting this game I see now....

Keyboard cowboys

Piss off

[lone rampart]

Yeehaw.

[silk token]

lol what?? i cant guess the context here, what channel is this mess in?

[lone rampart]

Originally general; moved here as it’s theoretically Valheim-related

[candid basalt]

A bunch of us just started a new world. Too bad everyone is quitting /s

[silk token]

I don’t even see anything else they wrote in general, was that the only thing they said, and it got moved to here?

[lone rampart]

Thank you for the /s tag Winn my confusion was threatening to reach critical mass 😂

[indigo beacon]

just found the trader on day 29 this is the earliest i've ever found him

[paper marsh]

nice

[paper marsh]

Hmm, root harnesk or wolf chest for Moder?

Imma go for root harnesk

[lone rampart]

I was gonna suggest wolf chest but it’s your choice

[paper marsh]

Wolf chest is like 10 armor, root harnesk is 22.5 damage off her deadliest attack, and 90 damage off of one of the two attacks I'm most likely to get hit by

Sounds favored towards root harnesk

[plush umbra]

I saw yall messages and was about to ask if you are talking about Valheim lmaooo

[gray sand]

@paper marsh Wolf Trinket is one of my favs atm tbh.

[lone rampart]

Nah, we’re talking about Megabonk

slaps the sarcasm right out of her fingers

[lone rampart]

You’ve convinced me! I just don’t wanna hop around the mountains wearing nothing but tree bark 🥶

[chrome badge]

I preferred the Fenris Set, most of her attacks can be easily sidestepped with enough speed, and Fist Weapons are great for hitting quickly in succession when you get the chance.

[paper marsh]

Only got to proc it once where it mattered during the fight, but seems like an about +20% damage buff to my spears, felt very nice. I am looking forward to getting the parry trinket tho

[paper marsh]

I usually go for 1-2 pieces of fenris too, but trying out tonic of ratatosk rn and damn this tonic changes things

[chrome badge]

Oh yeah Ratatosk is god tier

[paper marsh]

And no cooldown or expensive ingredients either

[gray sand]

It shines (like most trinkets) when you get to Plains.
Easy to proc and maintain vs. Villages. Especially with atgeir (but still great with spear).

I would like it slightly more if they dropped the skill buffs and added like +50 stam per proc (similar to the Slash trinket).

[paper marsh]

Could be nice

I'm considering the slash trinket for when I get to ashlands. Axes and swords are damn good in that biome, and I plan on going with some low-stamina builds so having 100 stamina regen out of nowhere is gonna feel nice

[chrome badge]

Yeah the skill buff trinkets lose value in three scenarios...

1. Not Utilizing The Equipment To Benefit From The Buff
2. Not High Enough In Skill To Push Any Real Thresholds
3. Already Maxed In The Skill

[silk token]

don't even worry about moder just dodge her frost bolts from the sky. her basic attack is so derpy stupid she can't hit you and you can hit her 90% of the time if she's on the tiniest bump.

[paper marsh]

Yeah its rare I get hit by her. But when I do, I do want to be able to tank it

Especially when running on higher difficulty and permadeath

[gray sand]

This is the crux of why I switch. The stamina bump is just that good.

Although Evasion Mantle does increase what you can parry with the axes quite nicely.

[paper marsh]

Anyone try out fins of destiny? Do you go fast enough to use the waters as an escape when a situation turns bad? In mistlands or swamp perhaps?

[wintry valve]

Im thinking that getting away is the main purpose of them fins

[paper marsh]

Things don't always align with their purpose tho

[silk token]

oh nice. im also an enjoyer of hardcore death and hard difficulty

[paper marsh]

Trying them out now. Honestly I thought they were a bit of a meme item but I like them. Seems like they can outswim everything the swamp can throw at you (haven't tried against wraith)

[silk token]

id be interested in knowing if you can outswim serpents..

[paper marsh]

Doubtful. But you might be able to make it long enough to get to land

[paper marsh]

Okay I do not recommend against wraiths. Very deadly

[dark coyote]

yeah how are we supposed to proc that trinket exactly? 😆

[paper marsh]

I mean, you get a few bow shots on a serpent, proc relic, then serpent sinks your boat

its only 10 adrenaline needed

[nocturne wolf]

If there are two people using it they could parry each other in the water

[silk token]

forsaken power activation grants 10 adrenaline

[dark coyote]

but you cant do that in the water

[nocturne wolf]

in singleplayer bring a neck to swim with I guess

[silk token]

so if you have eikthyr available its like what 100% stamina reduction? and speed boost?

I haven’t actually memed that trinket so I don’t know, sea serpent, heads are so precious

[paper marsh]

How often are you swimming around in open waters though?

We are vikings, we use boats! Until the boats break

[silk token]

well, right,. Kind of like a in case of emergency break glass situation? Just keep the trinket in your long boat.

[paper marsh]

Moder activation for another 10% speed and relic proc?

Idk if moder applies to swimming

[lone rampart]

No but Eikthyr does

[rugged bridge]

Unwillingly use boats because for some reason our grown muscular vikings with a lot of stamina have the swimming capabilities of a toddler

[nocturne wolf]

I'm pretty sure all movespeed bonuses also apply to swimming but I can check now

[silk token]

no, I would rather take eikthyr over moder if youre swimming

[chrome badge]

Yeah they seem way too niche to be a trinket currently, perhaps there are plans to make it more viable?

[dark coyote]

so I don't use it, but its only purpose is to benefit swimming, my question is two parts really: in what scenario do you need to proc the trinket, and how do you do it in that scenario

[paper marsh]

I'm guessing it would be zero stamina drain yea. But I don't feel like stamina is much of an issue with the trinket. Depends on purpose though

[paper marsh]

https://discordapp.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202177337328934973/1442973048998330468

That was my thinking. And trying it out it seems decent

[silk token]

my only use would be crap my boat is about to break and I need to swim to shore way over there. which is why I’m curious about serpents. I always thought if I ever made one I would just keep it in my boat just in case

[dark coyote]

the only thing I can think of is that your boat is destroyed and you need to evade a serpent, so if its not already procced you're done

[paper marsh]

Realistically I don't know how good it would be against serpents

Though tbh I don't think I've had a serpent break my boat for years

[chrome badge]

I could see them being handy if some weapon type were allowed to be equipped while swimming, and then tactics surrounding leading enemies to water could come into play.

[paper marsh]

I really wish you could use knives and fist weapons in water

[dark coyote]

it should proc on login actually 😆

[silk token]

Same, but I came real close recently, my boat was low, and I crashed into a Leviathan looking at Santa, and Santa brought me a snake for Christmas

[paper marsh]

lmao I didn't even see this when I typed my comment

[chrome badge]

Haha we basically said it at the same time

[nocturne wolf]

It looks like status effect movespeed bonuses are used, I'm not sure about equipment

[chrome badge]

Interesting, so does the +7.5% increased swimspeed from Ratatosk stack with the +15% walk/run speed? Or are there more specific variables used here?

In-game Ratatosk is listed as Movement Speed +15%, but the Wiki specifies Walk/Run Speed for some reason.

[nocturne wolf]

Half of the movespeed is applied when swimming, I missed that earlier

so 15% movespeed automatically becomes 7.5% swim speed

Tonic of ratatosk doesn't have any swim speed buffs, I think it's just listed on the wiki in case people don't know this

The wiki doesn't have this for other movespeed status effects though

[chrome badge]

Interesting... but there is a direct way to influence swim speed only?

So this could easily stack.

[nocturne wolf]

Yes, used by the fins of destiny

[chrome badge]

Damn so Ratatosk or Fenris+Fins would make you swim that much faster.

[full mesa]

does anyone know if theres a command to show moders summon text

[nocturne wolf]

Fenris is an equipment speed buff, only used in walking/running

[nocturne wolf]

There's no command to only show this text but you will see it if you spawn moder with commands (her id is dragon)

[paper marsh]

Ratatosk + Fins + Moder = 62.5% extra swim speed?

I think the swim speed you need to outrun stuff will depend on difficulty too, as mobs get faster at higher diff

[chrome badge]

Ah okay good to know

[nocturne wolf]

Difficulty doesn't affect enemy swim speed, only walk/run speed

[tawdry igloo]

#valheim-help 👀

[chrome badge]

Hmm, so perhaps Fins have more use at higher difficulties

Bring all your enemies to a body of water and pick them off.

[paper marsh]

Some enemies walk under water

But unless they're ranged that shouldn't be too much of an issue

[clever torrent]

Are standing wood torches safe to use near wooden walls when Fire Hazard is toggled on? I haven't seen them throw sparks, so I would guess it is?

[paper marsh]

Yes

[clever torrent]

Great. Thanks.

[paper marsh]

Needs to be a campfire or bigger for it to be a concern

Or weapons with fire damage like fire arrows or torches or whatevs

[hearty niche]

I'm curious whether folks play w/ Fire Hazards on

[hearty niche]

Be careful about things above them. I think I've started fires that way.

[paper marsh]

I doubt most people do. I recently started to

[clever torrent]

I only started it with this world. So far, it hasn't caused me problems, but it has been a fun challenge.

I love how easy it is to get stacks of coal.

[flat vector]

I love Valheim
Cheers, vikings.

[chrome badge]

Every single time I start building it starts raining.

[foggy glacier]

yep.

[silk token]

i like fire on, makes building more realistic and i can get coal if i forget to bring it

[hearty niche]

Since they added it I turn it on every playthrough. The first time I turned it on I came back from a day out hunting to find a pile of coal where my half-burnt house used to be.

and after I stopped laughing I said "OK that was my fault"

[silk token]

wups

[foggy glacier]

So are cooking stations immune to that fire damage? I don't understand how you can use that modifier and still progress in early game.

[sterile oak]

What are the dimensions of the hearth?

[hearty niche]

Yeah. They're made of metal.

Metal and stone don't burn, just wood

[silk token]

oh you mean the wood ones? they don't burn

[hearty niche]

Oh - yeah hahah whoops. I was thinking Cauldron not Cooking Station.

[silk token]

i never thought about them burning, i imagine someone thought of that

[sterile oak]

Man, I look for beginner house ideas, and immediately get bombarded by houses using stone blocks

i'm only at the Black Forest, man

[chrome badge]

#building-ideas message

Here's an excellent house inspiration

[sterile oak]

btw, how many fireplaces/campfires do I need so i can have cooking rack and that pot and mead thing

whatever they're called

cooking station, cauldron, and mead ketill, i think

i guess 3?

[chrome badge]

You can fit 2 wooden cooking stands, a cauldron and a mead kettle all on one fire

[sterile oak]

wait really?!

[chrome badge]

The stands go on the left and right of the fire. The cauldron goes lower middle, the mead kettle goes upper middle.

[sterile oak]

I tried and couldn't

Huh, okay

also Hearth is much further in the game, too much for me to think about right now, yeah? @chrome badge

[chrome badge]

You'll have it by the next biome if you're advancing out of black forest soon.

[sterile oak]

wait really?

[chrome badge]

Yeah, it will take finding some ore, but yeah

[sterile oak]

i thought mistlands was after swamp and mountains

[chrome badge]

Swamp gives you what you need for the hearth

[sterile oak]

oh

ok

[chrome badge]

Here is the layout for the campfire though |8|

| = cooking stands
8 = cauldron and mead ketill

[sterile oak]

huh, okay

[paper marsh]

In beta firetick destroyed the wooden cooking stations :/

[sterile oak]

is there any point building in the Black Forest, considering trolls?

[lone rampart]

it's pretty?

[chrome badge]

The vibes can be nice but I massively prefer meadows.

[sterile oak]

How do i defend against them?

[silk token]

closer to copper/tin, you like string instruments

[silk token]

they’re weak to pierce, just have a good bow or spear, their attacks are very telegraphed you can dodge them

[fossil delta]

Also, shoot their head.

[white jetty]

Not when you've only got Meadows down. I got from Meadows -> Black forest -> Swamp -> Mountains before I built in the Black Forest, because it was right next to the Plains lol
I think the only biomes where I built in directly while I was exploring was Meadows (obviously) and the Mountains (bc such a pain to climb otherwise).
When I eventually did have a base in the Black forest, I used stone walls and floors, and those pike fences. Didn't have an issue with trolls being able to get past the fences. They never could sense me inside the base. So if you build, make sure you have a fence fairly far out!!

[fossil delta]

Its definitely a good idea to put as much distance as your willing to create between your defensive walls and your home.

[paper marsh]

Recently started to look into weapons more. I know swords and maces have been popular/meta forever, but they never really clicked for me. Always hated the slow animations

Now I'm realizing though that people are probably using the secondary attacks a lot for the immense damage, range, and stagger

[tacit crystal]

I've never considered swords or maces slow (if speaking about 1h).

But yeah, parry and secondary with either deals big damage.

[plush umbra]

Can someone show what their chimney looks like or how they built there’s? I’ve copied one or two YouTube videos and my base still seems to catch fire/fill with smoke

[fossil delta]

I usually no longer do chimneys. I just make a very high roof, and the smoke goes up and out that way.

I do leave openings at each end of my roofing.

[subtle scaffold]

I'm surprised you think they're slow, I find them to be at a Great speed for them, they aren't fast paced weapons like knives and spears, but they ain't no axes thats for sure

[plush umbra]

Have you found that one placement square isn’t enough space for the campfire because it sets fire to the structures surrounding?

[subtle scaffold]

Are you playing with fire spread outside of Ashland?

[plush umbra]

I’m not too sure sorry bro? Is that a setting?

[subtle scaffold]

Most things out there are built with that setting off because things don't usually catch fire

[subtle scaffold]

When creating a world with no modifier usually fire only spreads in the ashlands biome, the base settings campires don't set wood stuff on fire

It sounds like you are playing with fire spread on, so you would need to approach building campfires different than most building videos

You'll probably struggle to build chimneys until you unlock stone pieces from making a Stonecutter with iron

(I'm unsure if brazers, iron pits, and hearths spread fire too. If they don't you might have options earlier than Swamp level but yeah no clue)

[plush umbra]

I’ve seen in the settings there’s a fire hazard setting, is that the only one that should do the trick in stopping it from spreading across the base? Appreciate the help.

[subtle scaffold]

If it is on then yeah that's probably the culprit

[tacit crystal]

I just made this one yesterday. #building-screenshots message

[plush umbra]

Champion, thank you mate

[subtle scaffold]

No problem, happy raiding fellow Viking

[warped mulch]

I'm almost brand new to valheim (just hit bronze haha) and I'm looking for a slight RP server I could join. I play on Xbox and was wondering if anyone could use one more????

[fossil delta]

#1024264966712340510

Thats where you search for servers to join.

[warped mulch]

@fossil delta awesome, thank you very much! I just joined this chat today haha

[fossil delta]

Understood. There are a lot of channels to discover here.

Like, have you seen the id:customize ?

[jovial sleet]

Where can I find weapon attack speed stats for each type?

[fluid cove]

so will i get kicked from the server if i click the bot role lmao

[near furnace]

in the valheim wiki page 🙂

[near furnace]

nope

[tired path]

The fire hazard setting is amazing, I recently started using it to completely skip over the Charcoal Kiln

[lone rampart]

There’s a small, possibly-masochistic part of me that wants to start a no map, no portal, fire hazard world of pain just to see how long I can survive.

[tired path]

If you do NoMap, do keep the portals

NoMap by itself is already quite daunting

[tacit crystal]

True nomad challenge honestly if no map no portals.

[steel mica]

Ive tried this, it was not fun

[lone rampart]

I’ve done a nomad challenge previously that was kinda fun

[steel mica]

Valheim players in a nutshell

[tacit crystal]

The duality of Valheimers.

[lone rampart]

That's kind of the beauty of Valheim. There are so many different ways to play and people who enjoy vastly different things can still find something for them

[glad night]

Hearths do, though they aren’t consistent on it lol

[chrome badge]

I tried nomap, but I realized I enjoy mapping things out.

[orchid locust]

just don't crank up the overall difficulty too, and you shouldn't have it too rough. No portal just increases your travel times and the no map makes it hard to get your bearings at first but it's easy to learn how to mentally map the world through the use of references (yggdrasil branches, buildings of your own, features of the terrain, etc...)

imo no map is more fun in general since it gives more meaning to the "exploration" aspect of the game

as others have suggested, you should probably first do a run without map, and then remove portals as well. Doing both at the same time may quickly kill your enthusiasm

[coarse otter]

I wonder what will release first

deep north or hytale

[ripe skiff]

New steep roof is gonna be sick

[lusty tendon]

6 7 roof pieces????

[west mica]

https://a.storyblok.com/f/157036/2113x1189/06572c4fa4/whatarethese.png Those are deffinitely moulds
Maybe different metals can be injected for various bonuses?

[ripe skiff]

may odin smite you

[hollow hound]

yea quick glance clearly molds for casting metals

[ripe skiff]

good shout actually yeah

[west mica]

Maybe a new furnace to use them with?

[tired path]

Now that I'm looking at the Deep North progress, I wonder what they'll do to thematically differentiate it from the Mountain biome

[ripe skiff]

yeah possibly a furnace/crafting station

[ripe skiff]

fat seals

[tired path]

Currently, every biome is distinct and recognisable from each other, exploring a different theme. With Deep North, it's just the snow and cold theme from Mountain again

[hollow hound]

i'm assuming less mountains, more glacier type feel

[ripe skiff]

and fat seals

[west mica]

Mountains gave us frost/spirit weapons which are good against undead
Maybe deep north will be frost/some other elmental damage

[rugged bridge]

For the moment what they're showing is the result if black forest and mountain had a baby

[tired path]

More ice caps and less rock would be a big enough difference, yeah

[gilded narwhal]

6 7 roof 🫴🤪🫴

[shut harbor]

will there be an update at all this reamaider part of the year?

thinking storage update

[tired path]

I hope we get a Flametal Pickaxe that's required to mine ice from the Deep North, similar to what Skyrim did with the Dragonborn DLC and Stahlrim

[rugged bridge]

no

[smoky saddle]

Me and my bro Came back to Valheim yesterday completely forgetting how to play it. I was confused as to why my crops werent dropping seeds lol

[rugged bridge]

Already been confirmed

[shut harbor]

@rugged bridge oh.....

[rugged bridge]

You get an update on the development of the deep north lol

[west mica]

No North November, No Deep December

[shut harbor]

have they agreed on a storage update?

[rugged bridge]

Which yet again the new video didn't show anything new

At least the pictures of the molds were new

[west mica]

No word at all

[shut harbor]

I thought they acknowledged it as a problem... which is nearly the same thing.

[west mica]

There was like one tweet

But its not confirmed

[rugged bridge]

If by storage you mean the inventory problem, they just made a twitter post asking for feedback on it

So at the very least they're acknowledging the issue

[shut harbor]

That is good.

[tired path]

I think that one mod that adds armor and food slots solves it perfectly

[rugged bridge]

Yeah, no surprise as to why it's ranked 2nd by popularity on nexus lol

[shut harbor]

I dont think it takes much to fix.

the mod works really well... just a hassle.

[rugged bridge]

Though in reality just dedicated armor slots would be fine, food can still stay in the inventory, makes sense for it to do so. What I'm wearing being part of my inventory is pretty dumb

If anything sewing some pockets onto all that armor should be giving me inventory room not taking it away

[shut harbor]

backpack would be good... crafting to open up more space prehaps.

[west mica]

#suggestions would like to hear about your inventory space related ideas

[vernal karma]

i wonder if valheim can copy the minecraft bundles, or something similar, so you can use 1 slot to carry 1 flower, 1 rock, 1 wood, and some small portions of other stuff

persobnally i want them to just give us 1 more row of slots

[tired path]

I think what the mod does is perfect. The problem will be IG copying a mod, I believe there are some legal hassles in between

[west mica]

I'm generally pro the modder, but with that it seems like, if you mod a game by the developers grace its fair game for them to incorporate it

[shut harbor]

@west mica i think they just need to communicate.

@tired path

[tired path]

It's not always that easy

[shut harbor]

@tired pathits going to be a good start.

[near furnace]

They? 🤔

[shut harbor]

quickslot modder and devs.

[chrome badge]

Quickslots/backpacks/equipment slots are uninspired ideas imo, also no they wouldn't need to communicate with modders if they do something similar, it's their property and could've been on the roadmap well before any modder came along.

[shut harbor]

@chrome badgefunctional beyond annoyance would be a good start.

[chrome badge]

Quickly reacting because some players seem annoyed is not a good approach.

[rugged bridge]

At the end of the day those are just the most basic storage ideas games incorporate, no one's gonna judge if they make a staff that opens a portal to a different plane of existence where you can store several items or something. As long as the problem's dealt with

[chrome badge]

I believe they'll find a solution without copy/pasting what other games/mods have done.

[shut harbor]

if you look at the number of players who are saying the same thing, its beyond some players.

@chrome badge

[chrome badge]

I like that idea, much more creative and utilizes in world magic.

[chrome badge]

Some is an undetermined amount, so that makes little sense.

[shut harbor]

Well if the pot must call the kettle black, he should... smiles and laughs.

[chrome badge]

Ehm, okay then.

[shut harbor]

@chrome badge really and smiles.

[near furnace]

are you two engaging in nice and warming discussions?

[lone rampart]

Sunshine & rainbows in here

[chrome badge]

We need a frozen troll emote 😄

[shut harbor]

Some facts on the storage issue.... from Snazzy
18K votes on the question of more inventory slots.
91% said yes.
I would have posted the picture but I cant here.
#screenshots message

see link.

[chrome badge]

The developers have already put out feelers for how they might address inventory, there's really nothing to prove anymore, a lot of people would agree.

[near furnace]

beating a dead horse over and over and over and over and over again doesn't help 🤔

[merry pebble]

What horse? I see just some red mush...

[near furnace]

yeah. some kind of inventory leaking out all over the floor from all the bashing

[nocturne pasture]

Oh, nice Teaser! I hope for a January release of Deep North!

[sterile oak]

Yeah, I only built a small outpost next to a copper vein

[shut harbor]

@near furnaceI have just tried to put some numbers to it.

Its snazzy's poll trying to keep traction on this topic.

[near furnace]

he makes a topic of a controversial topic to gain viewers

[merry pebble]

People who were complaining about it still are, people who didn't have a problem with it still don't... Nothing changes no matter how many polls whoever does.

[glad night]

Snazzy who? well dressed?

[near furnace]

Content creator

[glad night]

Does he dress well?

😄

[near furnace]

just like all of them. they get income from views. so posting things people discuss or are talking about at the moment

[merry pebble]

We can just assume he is very snazzy 😄

[near furnace]

Hm... I would say probably mid-level male dressing skills 🤔

[glad night]

Precisely.

[shut harbor]

that is not the point gentlemen. If the "elite" of players playing valheim dont think its an issue, this is very much the wrong end of the stick that the devs needs to cater for.

[glad night]

Who are you calling “elite”?

[shut harbor]

" people who didn't have a problem with it still don't..." call them elite inventory players.

[near furnace]

Look at it more from a silent majority type of viewpoint

[tacit crystal]

Several people are typing...

[chrome badge]

I would just disengage with this one, he misunderstood me several times in DMs and then proceeded to ask if English was my first language.

😬

[near furnace]

alot of the times we hear an outcry from players, we adjust and oh boy.. then we get the silent majority against us.
those people who thought it was alright..................................

[shut harbor]

the poll represents a slice of opinion of all approximate players that play. 91% who took part said they want more space. Its a data point.

[glad night]

They’re just players. Ones who enjoy the game as is, rather than complaining about something that really isn’t an issue

[glad night]

Key phrase being “who took part”

[shut harbor]

@glad night your opinion would be in the nine percent

@glad night i can put stats behind this if you want. This poll can be broadly considered to be a segment of the current player base, so from a 91% perspective more inventory slots are desired by the player base as a general rule.

[glad night]

How many partook in said survey?

[shut harbor]

@glad night look at the words I typed.

[glad night]

Answer the question

[chrome badge]

Roughly 18k

[shut harbor]

#valheim-chat message

[chrome badge]

(Your screenshot was removed because it was not a screenshot of Valheim)

[shut harbor]

wow that is usefull .. anywhere else i can post it?

[near furnace]

no. it only shows his communitys thoughts after watching his videos on the topic

[glad night]

Interesting… so, 18k out of roughly 14.4 million of players.
14.4 being the rough amount of copies sold.

[chrome badge]

We've discussed this topic so much, no one outright disagrees it could be changed as far as I've seen.

[glad night]

That’s definitely worth considering as “opinion of all players”

[near furnace]

if you want to calculate on Snazzy.
18k out of 34k members voted.
so about half

[glad night]

~55% of his community voted, of which 91% wanted more inventory. However, that 91% is only .125% of the entire Valheim community

[near furnace]

1st.
his community are people who likes his content.
those people will probably agree with his thoughts. else they wouldn't view his content.
he then makes a video on the topic. and then posts a poll so people can react to it. very likly after watching him talk about his own opinion for a while on the matter.

[near furnace]

wrong math

[foggy glacier]

Guys, I think he left

[near furnace]

no. he is still in the server

[glad night]

Which part?

[lone rampart]

Good it’s too early for maths

[tacit crystal]

That's what I'm saying!
-# It's 3pm.

[near furnace]

18/34 = 52%.
Valheim sold over 14million in early 2025

but yes. 18,000 out of 14,000,000 is not many

[glad night]

Ok, I was doing a rough estimate on the percentage that was 18/34

[near furnace]

hi @white bane

[glad night]

Is this the man himself?

[near furnace]

it's very hard to make a poll on a topic like inventory slots

[white bane]

Genuine question. Does Iron Gate have a method of collecting player data to inform on topics like this? Honestly curious what game developers have for tools to make decisions like this? And so I'm clear, I trust iron gate to make the best choice for the game 🙂 (I LOVE the game obviously :P)

[near furnace]

yes it is

[near furnace]

well 🤔

we did ask on twitter

[shut harbor]

@white bane me too.

[near furnace]

but we get feedback in our mail, in #suggestions channel. and #suggestion-discussion

and of course in all the PTB playtests

[lone rampart]

I refuse to use Twitter so alas my voice shall not be heard

[glad night]

It’s heard here lol

[near furnace]

the "sad" part is as usual. the silent majority who only plays is silent until provoked 😅

[lone rampart]

Unfortunately, some might say! 😹

[near furnace]

so if we add 4 slots. they might say "wtf, why you change something that wasn't needed"

[tacit crystal]

Like the bears. 🐻

[near furnace]

it's been this every time we nerfed mistlands, ashlands etc

[chrome badge]

Squeaky wheel gets the grease 😅

[lone rampart]

With such a large playerbase there’s always gonna be someone that bitches over something

[near furnace]

https://x.com/Lumahlin/status/1960677865021677637 some people might be able to read here 🤔

[near furnace]

yes

it's like "damned if you do, damned if you don't" with alot of things we do

can't please everyone

[white bane]

Yeah I don't envy your (Iron Gate') position. Its impossible to get the opinion of every player and every players opinion is going to be different. No matter the action, some will like it and others won't.

[shut harbor]

This isnt an arguement but what is best for the overall player base? is 18k not a great enough slice of that?

[near furnace]

staying mod-friendly helps

[glad night]

18k is roughly .125% of the player base

[lone rampart]

No but you can make the game YOU (and by “you” I mean the iron gate team) envisioned, and enough people will love it

[chrome badge]

The trick is hitting the sweet spot of less complaining from both casuals/hardcores.

[shut harbor]

we already love it raindancer... smiles.

[lone rampart]

The trick is ignoring their asses 🤣

[near furnace]

that's rather rude tho

[shut harbor]

its the best game I have ever played.. for the first hour i hated it, then i found building......

[chrome badge]

I mean, if they did that, Ashlands might end a lot of casual player's runs out of frustration, and it should ultimately be fun.

[glad night]

I always did appreciate this about their initial stance, not sure how much it’s changed over the years. But in 2021 it was stated that they were going to make the game they envisioned, which I have huge respect for

[near furnace]

like this. What Nick says is very valid

how many, and for what (for example with dedicated slots)

I am personally against both backpacks and dedicated slots

[tropic moss]

Are you against finding any way to add extra inventory?

[near furnace]

yes and no 😄

[lone rampart]

Oh nothing too much! Just armor! And food. And arrows/ammo. and no weapon tools. And trophies. And… and… 🤣

[near furnace]

no. I want the challenge
yes. a few more would help to not use pocket portals constantly

[jagged wind]

anything would be better than nothing imo

[lone rampart]

sneaks away before Smiffe kicks her

[tacit crystal]

No backpacks for me too. Dedicated slots, maybe.

[jagged wind]

regardless of what ppl would argue about

[chrome badge]

I had this idea a while back, it got decent reception: #suggestions message

[glad night]

Portals and chests already are an inventory management solution.
If your inventory is full, go depo

[near furnace]

I would never

[glad night]

Yeah, I did like that idea

[tacit crystal]

Some kind of way through progression would maybe be nice for bit more basic slots.

[near furnace]

I did downvote that one tho 😄

(sorry)

[tacit crystal]

The clutter starts being more problem in Ashlands IMO.

[chrome badge]

Don't be sorry! Can't please everyone right.

[merry pebble]

If you consider the player base is milions of people... Not really.

[glad night]

This also allows you to refresh your rested buff

[near furnace]

I got my own idea how and why.
but if I write it out, people will read it incorrectly and take it as a "Yes. it will come"

[chrome badge]

You need a ghost writer account 😅

[near furnace]

xD

I do think the game is perfectly playable with the current amount of slots tho

[chrome badge]

Agreed, my only gripe is that I never utilize niche things because of the inventory strain, I'd love to carry around all the splash bombs for some creative combat, but it's just too much strain.

[near furnace]

my "issue" atm is that I run back through my portals more than I explore and adventure

[lone rampart]

It is, but I also love my extra slots and backpack. Because I’m a loot gremlin

[near furnace]

#LootGremlinCrew

[jagged wind]

yeah, it can feel annoying, immersion losing sometimes

[tacit crystal]

Griffe joined the server.

[chrome badge]

A portal pouch linked to a chest at home perhaps? Would still need sorting when you return, and have a set amount of space.

[lone rampart]

Yet another reason my no-map no-portal run idea would be doomed to failure. “Whattaya mean I don’t have any room for this mushroom!! That’s it, I quit!!” 🤣

[glad night]

Eat the mushroom 😆

[near furnace]

not a bad idea, but would be kinda wierd..
or imagine you force hugin and munin to fly back with stuff for you 😄

[lone rampart]

We are messengers of Odin!! Not your delivery boys!

[chrome badge]

I bet they are bored after they teach you everything 😮

[chrome badge]

Aww 🙁

[glad night]

Somehow I don’t see them submitting themselves to that 😂

[lone rampart]

They’re extra bored when I turn their asses off in options

[shut harbor]

@glad nighteat the mushroom...lol

[merry pebble]

Nooooo! People already dont listen to them and now they would abuse them for material transport? Poor guys xD

[jagged wind]

or askvin that can tow a cart xd

[lone rampart]

It would make them useful though

[near furnace]

no. they are to "stuck up" for being of actual use to the player

[glad night]

Indeed

[foggy glacier]

After the third trip, there's a 50% chance they drop the ingots on your head. Standard falling damage applied.

[chrome badge]

Thor can ride that sleigh down to me and take my 600 wood back home thanks.

[lone rampart]

You want us to transport this for you? You’re gonna learn all about workbenches first!

[near furnace]

animal driven carts would be horrible to "stear" 🙁

[glad night]

They are “proud messengers of Odin, not your lackey”

[foggy glacier]

I can't stand hanging around their squacking already.

[lone rampart]

How very dare!

[chrome badge]

"I have a message for Odin, it is carved one letter at a time on 1000 stones, I believe Odin is back at my base if you don't mind." 😏

[lone rampart]

They need not “squawk” would you simply heed their wisdom!

[chrome badge]

Can anyone discern what that odd shape is on the left of the stone molds?

[shut harbor]

how many million play valheim approximately?

[foggy glacier]

In the photo? Don't see anything.

[merry pebble]

Looks a bit like moose antler(?), but dont know why that would be a shape of the mould
-# On the other hand i dont see a reason for feet shaped mould either xD

[shut harbor]

i can do some maths on what is a realistic population estimate

[foggy glacier]

Oh, the shape in the mold? I don't recognize any of them tbh.

[glad night]

Roughly 14.4 million people have copies

[chrome badge]

Hmmm, my thinking was Fenring head

[shut harbor]

ok...

[glad night]

Which one?

[merry pebble]

Bit too little detail for it to be that imo, no snout, teeth or anything like that visible 🤔

[chrome badge]

The pointy looking one on the left

[chrome badge]

Yeah, I really can't say it is at all, but it looks like nothing haha

[merry pebble]

Yep xD

[glad night]

From where?

[tacit crystal]

Moose antler hmm, it looked a bit like stegosaurus at first.

[chrome badge]

The stone molds in the dev blog

[foggy glacier]

Probably they're just a teaser anyway.

[glad night]

Stone molds?

[lone rampart]

They look like footprint castings. Human and something with big round steppies and something with a limp 🤣

[lone rampart]

Confirmed, deep north is a portal to the past 🤣

Land of the Lost style

[near furnace]

🤔

[upbeat magnet]

Molds look like a shield, fist weapons, and my bet the leftmost one being the head of an axe or something since it has a straight edge side that could be used for a handle.

[glad night]

Ohhhhhh, I hadn’t seen those

[chrome badge]

I love this theory 😮

[tacit crystal]

The Land Before Time?

[lone rampart]

There’s no Tree Star 🍁

[merry pebble]

Ooooh, the abandoned DN villages have banners in them 👀

[lone rampart]

New jute! Let’s go!!

[merry pebble]

No no, i mean the proper banners we players can make 😄

0:34 in the new Hervor video

Down on the left

[lone rampart]

Ahhh will have to take a look on break

Currently working; you can tell because I’m so very busy I can’t possibly chat on discord 🤣

[merry pebble]

Ofcourse xD

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, seems like.

[near furnace]

tree star?

[lone rampart]

From The Land Before Time movie

[jolly kernel]

More building options are always welcome, specially with something as important as roofs 🙏

[shut harbor]

Guys I have done some simple maths, stats on some numbers. If you take a result of 91% yes and 9% no, the question is how big do you need the sample size to be to give an error of 1% or less. and the answer comes out to be 95% confidence, just over 3k votes. so the poll by snazzy on the 18m player base is good enough for a solid answer to the percentage of players who would wish for an inventory increase or improvement.

[glad night]

Speaking of building, I just want 4m angled corewood

[merry pebble]

-# I think the bloody horse mush might be getting fed up with it too already...

[lone rampart]

I used to think I enjoyed maths but VWAP taking it to a whole new level

[glad night]

I was thinking the same thing. It’s more like blood pudding now
-# although, it’s an affront to the food item to compare it so

[glad night]

-# Of bad math

[near furnace]

I said tho. you can't take Snazzy's video to math with

[glad night]

Was disappointed to see only the 2m variants were added

[near furnace]

he first made a video on the topic
people who likes his content viewed the video
then he made a poll
people will have a highly jaded view from his video already

[shut harbor]

@near furnacethis is stats work.

[near furnace]

no

it's how you can make people's opinion reflect your own 😅

[shut harbor]

so looking at stats what vote do you need to prove a 91% yes 9% no with a 95% confidence level with a 1% error.

[lone rampart]

I’m inclined to agree with Smiffe on this. Taking stats from a skewed source isn’t stats work; it’s propaganda

[glad night]

-# that sounds an awful lot like brainwashing Smiffe

[shut harbor]

there is no inclined raindancer... lool

[near furnace]

in one sence, yes

[glad night]

😂

[near furnace]

but not to the degree of brain washing

it's more in the ballpark of a echo chamber

you say something, your loyal followers will reflect that opinion

[glad night]

Echo chamber seems highly accurate

[near furnace]

if you want a honest answer, ask people who don't like you

[chrome badge]

The stats you're citing prove one thing alone, 91% of Snazzy's viewers agree with Snazzy. This isn't surprising, because they watch his videos. This is a bias.

[shut harbor]

and the answer comes out a 3,112. So as long as snazzy poll is greater that this number, then it is a fair representation.

[glad night]

No

[lone rampart]

citing* but yes

[shut harbor]

within those parameters. This is what stats does. Other wise you are just estimating on feelings which doesnt work... ego centric decisions.

[chrome badge]

Oh my, I didn't know I was spelling that wrong, thank you!

[near furnace]

I would be more inclined to listen to what those 9% who said no thinks 🤔

[lone rampart]

Omni, sarcasm? I genuinely can’t tell

[merry pebble]

I would be interested to see what the rest of the playerbase thinks 😄

[shut harbor]

@near furnace this only asks one question. More inventory or not.

[chrome badge]

Not at all. 😄

[near furnace]

doesn't matter.
he posted a video, then asked people, and they reflected back

[lone rampart]

I know some folks get touchy about “the grammar police” online but I honestly only thought of that after hitting enter

[tacit crystal]

Still too early tbh.

[shut harbor]

To get a representive poll, you need more than 3,112 peopole to vote across the player base with a 95% certainty with a 1% errorr.

[glad night]

The amount of people who echo their favourite cc, skews whatever “stat” you want to make

[near furnace]

3,112?

[shut harbor]

Trying to make decisions on feelings, never works.

[near furnace]

1% out of 14,000,000 ?

[chrome badge]

I've had many instances of just... spelling things incorrectly for ages because I'd never seen it written, so I'm quick to thank anyone willing to point that out. 🤙

[glad night]

140,000

3,112 is just a little shy

[shut harbor]

so as long as a vote on this topic is greater than 3,112 it will truly reflect the complete player base. The 14.2 million is an imfinite soure of votes.

[lone rampart]

I’m the opposite. I’ve read so many words but then end up mispronouncing them when spoken

[shut harbor]

Guys, this is stats. There is nothing to argue. lol

[merry pebble]

14,2 milion is very much finite, wdym?

[glad night]

Cause reading them in your head but never hearing them spoken, you make your own pronunciation. It’s fun

[near furnace]

what you need to factor in are multiple factors.

1. are people who dislike the inventory slot numbers more inclined to vote than people who like the number of inventory slots?
2. are people who don't care on the topic going to vote?

just as examples

[chrome badge]

That's fair, I'm less of a reader and more of a speaker, at least our archetypes can benefit each other though!

[lone rampart]

Fun until your mom makes fun of you for the next 30 years for a word you mispronounced as a child 😅

[paper marsh]

It’s interesting to see different perspectives. IMO it’s not a huge difference between sword/mace/axe (like .2 seconds). But compared to a spear it takes swords and maces almost THREE TIMES as long to attack. Plus you have to attack three consecutive times every time you attack to really take advantage of the damage

Just feels very slow to me. Once I started playing on hard/vhard too I started hating the slow attack speed even more because being locked in an animation against mobs that can oneshot you and that you can’t parry is just… rough

[shut harbor]

The question that was asked was does valhiem needs more inventry slots.

[glad night]

No, it doesn’t need them

And that poll result is a biased source.

[spark pebble]

The real, real question, is that if we were to get more inventory slots, would we get weight capacity upgrades too?

[shut harbor]

Yes or No. Stats is stats.. it doesnt rely on anyones feelings and reports a number within the parameters you have defined. I defined a 95% certainty with a 1% error.... very tight.

[lone rampart]

just sits back and sips tea

[ornate saddle]

Lmao someone go kill a greydwarf in this guy’s general vicinity and clog up his inventory

[glad night]

I never said it was fun for you… 😈😆

[slim orbit]

I want a million dollars. Can the devs just give that to me too??

[glad night]

Oh no…

[shut harbor]

and the number you need to vote in that way for a representative number within those parameters is 3,112

[glad night]

I can’t possibly toss the said stuff out, or just not pick it up to begin with

[tacit crystal]

I'm more reader/writer too, also my native pronunciation sometimes mixes up the speaking part. 🥲

[lone rampart]

Greydwarfs tremble at my passing. I shall leave a trail of resin and destruction in my wake.

[merry pebble]

Yes, and out of the less than 0,1% of the Valheim community that engaged with that poll 91% said yes... Can you please tell me how big of a percantage that is out of the whole comunity?

[shut harbor]

so 18k is more than adequate. And if you cant understand this, then i am sorry. There are trolls here too unfortunately.

[lone rampart]

“Freaking EYES!!” punts into a ravine

[glad night]

🪞

[spark pebble]

Jeez, I tremble at greylings passing. Will you teach me your ways oh great one?

[shut harbor]

@merry pebblewithin the boundaries of the following statement.

[lone rampart]

Too many* hours in this game

[near furnace]

you still haven't replied to what I say about jaded video

[lone rampart]

-# *”too many” is not actually possible

[near furnace]

and don't call people trolls just because they don't listen to you. that's quite rude

[shut harbor]

95% Certainty - a stastical term
91% to 9% yes no vote
1% error

you need total of 3,112 votes to confirm a 91% to 9% split.

[ornate saddle]

I’m confused, are we voting in favor or against an inv rework?

[spark pebble]

I've only had the game like a month or so and I have 366 hours already. Most of that is running around protecting my wife from trolls and bears, fun though.

[lone rampart]

Neither, Noodle. We’re arguing stats taken from a very limited and biased source

[shut harbor]

out of a popluation of 14.2 million which for all intense of purposes is an infinite source.

[tacit crystal]

No, just discussing the poll one content creator made that was posted some time ago about inventory.

[chrome badge]

There's no vote, people are just struggling to get a point across to someone citing a 3 month old poll.

[glad night]

We aren’t voting. The vote was already done in a biased environment, which skews any outcome of said poll/vote

[slim orbit]

Have you taken into consideration the development of game is not a democracy?

[shut harbor]

@glad night thats a feeling.

[glad night]

Nope

[lone rampart]

If I went to an apple stand and polled people “do you like apples?” then my results are not indicative of the entire population

[shut harbor]

yes... it is..

[near furnace]

I am out. if VWAP don't want to listen. I ain't going to try anymore. I got other things to do...

[shut harbor]

you think its biased. I dont care if its biased or not.

[white bane]

what if we did a poll in the discord 👀

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/table-flip-gif-19808774

[near furnace]

still jaded

[lone rampart]

Ah, there’s the crux of it

[glad night]

Indeed

[shut harbor]

im just giving the plain facts....

[spark pebble]

I think what would go a long way as the inventory goes. Is to give us dedicated equipment slots. That would increase our inventory available without throwing the whole inventory system off. Its also a happy median between those who want more inventory and those who dont.

[lone rampart]

We found the troll after all! He doesn’t care he’s just being obstinate

[shut harbor]

I dont have a bias.

[glad night]

No. You’re not, which you’ve already admitted to lol

[full star]

where are clippy and one-leg-horse streaming to?

[glad night]

The poll was…

[lone rampart]

The amusement of this is waning…y’all gonna make me do actual work

[ornate saddle]

Forget this poll, i say we let Megingjord function like the fannypack it is and have it give us a few extra slots.

[glad night]

Nooo… come back… stay…

[shut harbor]

The poll was just on do we need more inventory slots, the how is not mentioned.

[lone rampart]

OK you’ve convinced me! 🤣

[glad night]

🤣

[shut harbor]

I have applied some stats and I have given you the results.

[glad night]

-# you were supposed to flee while you had the chance

[shut harbor]

that is all I have done.

no opinion just logic.

and its farily robust logic.

[merry pebble]

You mean like that 0,126% of the community is a totally valid and sufficient sample size to give feedback for the whole comunity?

[glad night]

And ignored every argument presented to you, going so far as to even declare that you don’t care if your source is biased.

[lone rampart]

Flawed logic isn’t logic

[shut harbor]

its not flawed.

[lone rampart]

Anyway I’m gonna go speculate wildly based on the dev blog pics now

[shut harbor]

you unfortunately 1. are biased to your own feeling.

[paper marsh]

I haven't really been following this convo but I would like to say you are all pretty and there's no need to fight ❤️

[near furnace]

https://academic.oup.com/jrsssa/article/188/2/566/7720791

enjoy reading 🫡

[slim orbit]

You took a stat sig sample size from a pool that was already algorithmically biased by YouTube.

[shut harbor]

I have just reported numbers... through stats.

[lone rampart]

My feeling is that vwap is “debating” in the same way as Charlie Kirk

[shut harbor]

Chris, it doesnt really matter as the sample size was 900% more than was required.

[chrome badge]

Unfortunately we can never have absolute feedback on this topic, developers just need to listen to every avenue of feedback available, and make a judgement call on their own. If we were to boil it down to one avenue of feedback, it could easily be overrun by those looking to make change. The people that aren't looking to make change are likely not aware of that feedback avenue to begin with. The loudest will be the only ones heard if there isn't careful consideration taken.

[shut harbor]

and it only answers one question more inventory space or not .. applied on the basis of the numbers I have given you as a very conservativ e approach.

[glad night]

95% of the Cheesecake Factory employees like cheesecake, therefore 95% of the world’s population like cheesecake

[near furnace]

yes

it's one way of explaining the Bias

[glad night]

Mhmm

[slim orbit]

If you only poll chickens on whether they can fly or not and report it as 100% of birds can’t fly.

[near furnace]

or asking people at october fest if they like beer

[shut harbor]

ive reported it fairly and given you the parameters to check if you so wish and maybe before you troll me, prehaps check it out.

[merry pebble]

-# Fun fact. Chickens actually can fly 😄 just not very well

[glad night]

-# if you call a controlled fall “flying” 😆

[slim orbit]

I’d like to report a bug in the game…why don’t my chickens fly poorly?

[near furnace]

ok. no more calling people trolls for having a diffrent opinion

I am very serious

[shut harbor]

you are making fun of me is that trolling?

I think so.

I have given you the facts, nothing but.

[merry pebble]

Oh they can start flying from the ground 😄 thats why their wings are clipped in most cases, so they dont escape fenced off areas

[lone rampart]

Careful vwappers; that was a FEELING 🤣

[near furnace]

aand freeze

[tacit crystal]

Falling... with style.

[glad night]

🥶

[glad night]

😆

[near furnace]

VWAP can't respond now since I've called it. he is on a 1 hour timeout since he doesn't listen

[rugged bridge]

Apologies for lack of reply, I went out. I just pulled that out of my ass on the spot lol, but yeah, there's definitely a lot of different ways you can go about it

[white bane]

I completely agree

[lone rampart]

Thank you Smiffe and sorry for carrying the nonversation on too long

[near furnace]

as long as the conversation isn't hostile or starting to throw insults. it's fine

but starting to call people things just because they have a diffrent view is not being nice. and it's breaking rule #1 in #rules-and-info

be nice, respectful and it's okay to have a diffrent opinion

[placid dust]

What do people think the new teased items are

https://valheim.com/news/word-from-the-devs-through-the-roof

These black squares that seem to be molds for something

But idk so I wanted to hear speculation

[chrome badge]

Someone earlier mentioned they could be molds for fist weapons, a shield, and a spikey tipped axe head, I liked that theory.

[lone rampart]

New crafting station: metalcasting

[paper marsh]

I was thinking mold for shield, fist weapon, and boots. Though I'm real shaky on that last one and slightly shaky on the second one

[chrome badge]

I hope so, and I hope we get to watch the molten metal fill the molds

[lone rampart]

Smelt the ore into ingots keep smelting the ingots into liquid, pour and tada!

[rugged bridge]

The sword they leaked here https://valheim.com/news/word-from-the-devs-ready-for-a-fight-/ looks like it came from one of those

[placid dust]

I feel like one of the shown molds look like footprints

[glad night]

While cool, I feel like it might be too much of a change to crafting

[lone rampart]

Honestly I feel that the galdr table was a bigger jump

[chrome badge]

The Black Forge does have a molten flowing bit to it

[lone rampart]

True

[glad night]

Of pouring the material into molds, rather than crafting menu?

Don’t get me wrong, I love the tinkers construct mod for Minecraft haha

[merry pebble]

Maybe just making parts for weapons before crafting them 🙂

[lone rampart]

Oh I don’t know how the actual process would play out

[glad night]

Could be fun

[paper marsh]

I mean we don't know how it works yet. Could literally just be go to crafting bench, combine mold and metal, boom you got a weapon

[chrome badge]

I doubt we see anything poured to be fair, but I could see having to locate molds for DN weapons, and "filling" them in the black forge.

[paper marsh]

I do hop it is more of a interactive thing tho

[merry pebble]

Think so too, looking forward to see what it will actually be 😄

[glad night]

Indeed

[rugged bridge]

Maybe it's just as basic as having to loot a mold from the new dungeon/something else in order to use it in a crafting recipe to make something lol

[paper marsh]

I like it if you'll have to find the molds (which I assume you do)

Encourage people to use different weapons if they can't immediately find that sword mold for the sword they've been using in the last 5 biomes

[placid dust]

I’m still not sure if it’s what we think it is but that sounds interesting

Foot prints, a moose antler looking thing and a perfect circle

[paper marsh]

I'm just not a fan of how little we are encouraged to switch up weapons.

You could use the same weapon in basically every biome, which just feels boring imo

[placid dust]

Weird things to have molds for

[glad night]

-# looks like someone, a troll maybe, sat in said mold…

[fossil delta]

There is your motivation. Bored with using the same weapon? Try a different one.

Its why I have tried out all of them, at least a little bit.

[rugged bridge]

Game's replayability kind of compensates this as well

Went with a different weapon line every run I've done just for fun

Going back to being a wizard for DN though

[tacit crystal]

Ahh, so cake.

[paper marsh]

I usually go with a different weapon (or two) every biome

[glad night]

Sike! Those are baking pans, y’all thought they were weapon molds…

[lone rampart]

Not that kinda cake

[glad night]

Butt cake is cake 🎂

[lone rampart]

Cake is a lie

[merry pebble]

-# Just wanted to type that one xD

[glad night]

Nooo… nooo…

[rugged bridge]

Also an option, I prefer the single line per playthrough method, that way I get to experience combat interactions with each weapon against every enemy

Helpful learning experience alongside some fun

[lone rampart]

You don’t. Just kill them fast

[glad night]

Part of the fight

🤨

[lone rampart]

Nah it’s pretty logical that the QUEEN OF AN INSECT HIVE would have the workers come defend her

[glad night]

Cause bosses never summon minions in other games…

[heady parcel]

Indeed. Now that I am playing a no-portals run, I notice me almost never taking new things out to experiment a bit with them, I have found the "loadout" I need and use the most when out exploring, I can't be bringing along splash bombs etc or my invetory is full before I reach my boat while heading out 😄

[lone rampart]

Fun is in the eye of the beholder. I’m sorry you don’t enjoy that particular fight but it’s designed that way on purpose

[toxic hemlock]

Wow a 44 second teaser number 8 of nothing new… hopefully by teaser 43 we will get something and a release date… 😅

[glad night]

I wouldn’t know, never played it

[fossil delta]

They will like it better once it stops kicking their arse.

[tacit crystal]

Queen is fun fight IMO.

[glad night]

*subjectively
Subject to your opinion

[spark pebble]

Maybe you just aren't good at the game and should play minecraft?

[merry pebble]

You must not like quite a large portion of gaemmes then

[chrome badge]

Minecraft has this as well during the boss fights. 🤷

[glad night]

Now now, that’s a bit rude. They made it to the queen, can’t be that bad at the game

[heady parcel]

I killed her my second time yesterday - it is a fun but very stressful fight. I was sweating and barely coherent when it was over... That's how a boss fight should leave you.

[spark pebble]

I was just kidding... mostly. Its annoying when people only have negative things to say. Challenges are what make games enjoyable. If its easy, its boring.

[fossil delta]

So you beat her in one go? I know you were concerned about being under prepared.

[glad night]

“Not fun to anyone” when just previously someone said it was fun…
Also, dodge is required sometimes, not just block

[merry pebble]

There Is a reason blocking isnt the only way to survive attacks 😄

[heady parcel]

I had to run out and refresh my rest bonus and eat twice, but no deaths!

[chrome badge]

I would suggest weaponry that allows you to crowd control, like an Atgeir, or a Battleaxe.

[tacit crystal]

Demolisher, bile bombs and Ember staff are also good AoE options.

[rugged bridge]

My only problem with the queen fight is that I can't see more than 2% of the arena at a time

All that design effort wasted

[glad night]

So… dodge instead of block

[tacit crystal]

Move on top and you can see more clearly.

[spark pebble]

I think the queen fight was the best of the boss fights, its in its own instance so you cant just "cheese" it. It takes advantage of all 3 dimensions so she could be above or below you, the minions make it so there is pressure at all times. All that equals, fun fight.

[fossil delta]

I go through and drop wisp lights before I even summon her. They destroy them pretty quickly during the fight, but at least I can see more for a while.

[rugged bridge]

I think you should be able to see the entire arena anyway, I mean there's no mist inside the infested mines which are basically just mini infested citadels

But I suppose it does give her the chance to surprise attack

[glad night]

Don’t need to unless you dodged into the second attacker

[rugged bridge]

Unironically though my favorite part of the queen fight is the sick design behind opening the door, and the door's animation feels pretty grandiose

[spark pebble]

My only real complaint, is that once you kill the queen, I would like it to banish the mists, or at least give you the option to. That way you can fully enjoy the biome.

[glad night]

I like the mist, it’s pretty

[fossil delta]

I go the entire game without dodge rolling or parrying. I hardly ever die. So...

[glad night]

It wouldn’t be “Mistlands” without it

[tacit crystal]

Remove "Mist" and you get Lands.

[rugged bridge]

They kept starting the boss being a cool and epic thing by having fader shoot down from the sky in sync with the music, I'm hoping DN delivers as well

[glad night]

Tower shield?

[heady parcel]

Goes down to situational awareness and how you move on the battlefield. Tactical retreats when she summons her babies is not cowardice.

[fossil delta]

Of course.

[spark pebble]

Right, thats why the option would be nice. SOme playthroughs I would like it, some I would prefer it to go away after killing her.

[glad night]

If it went away after killing her, it wouldn’t be much of a choice then

[spark pebble]

There is something magical when you come across an area or get high enough to have a clear view

[spark pebble]

Thats why I said, Have an option to clear it after killing her.

[rugged bridge]

Killing the queen should make me the new queen and allow me to bring all the seekers with me to the ashlands

[glad night]

Nice. I’m considering trying such a build, usually I rely on dodging or parrying. But sometimes I mess up the timing

[tacit crystal]

Mist just disappearing after defeating Queen doesn't make sense, she is not responsible for the mist.
But some kind of larger wisp torches after would be nice option.

[chrome badge]

I cleared my mistlands with the Wisp Torches, it took some time, but the option is there.

[fossil delta]

Starting to do zero death runs, well before we could choose difficulty, is why I started to rely on blocking.

[lone rampart]

Long live Queen Flip! 🙇‍♀️

[spark pebble]

See thats not bad. Maybe make the wisp accesory upgradable, give us larger wisp torches.

[heady parcel]

That bigger dverg wisp beacon becoming a buildable piece would be a nice solution, they have much wider range than the regular wisp lights.

[glad night]

Yeah, I just dislike the slow from the shield haha. I’ve ran exclusively knives because of that

[rugged bridge]

Time to figure out the secrets of making seeker babies so I can rule the world

[spark pebble]

Maybe not just an overall clearing, but some other options would be cool.

[chrome badge]

I wouldn't mind this either.

[lone rampart]

😬 some things are better left secret

[glad night]

Would be nice, yeah

[fossil delta]

I got used to it. I would think anyone could get used to it. I also do exclusively heavy armors.

After I get through swamps.

[chrome badge]

The wislight radius can't be changed due to performance complications, but larger torches could be a nice unlock for sure. I would just want it after defeating the Queen.

[glad night]

That’s the other thing I’m starting to consider trying haha

[spark pebble]

Yeah, whatever makes sense for the game in that area. I don't know about the performance issues, so I defer to you on that one. I did clear a large portion with the torches, but better ones would be cool.

[fossil delta]

If you get your skill high enough, you run and jump faster and higher than most anything else in the game. So armor weight doesn't actually make a difference to me.

[spark pebble]

Once I finish this run through, I am going to try a no portals run, Its going to suck but it will add a new variable.

[heady parcel]

I run heavy armour and regular shield, best combo to me. 🙂

[fossil delta]

I get lost even with maps, so I'm never doing that.

[spark pebble]

Thats what is good about games like this, there isnt ONE way to play. Use what works for you.

[chrome badge]

I'm giving the new light armor sets a good try, I'm enjoying them quite a lot so far.

[spark pebble]

It is going to be a challenge for sure. I thought about doing a no restrictions on portals run. That just seemed too easy, I probably will at some point though.

[fossil delta]

Yep. The light sets are nice, and very viable. I just prefer max damage reduction to all attacks.

[spark pebble]

I prefer light armor myself, I am trying to get used to not using a shield at all but I am usually a round shield/parry player. I can parry with just a weapon but its more dangerous

[fossil delta]

Yeah, not having to figure out how to get the metals you want, to where you want, is a much easier game to play.

[tacit crystal]

Nowadays almost exclusively prefer light armor for extra movement speed and set bonuses. Sometimes mix up heavy helmet when needing more armor while not sacrificing ms, during last playthrough Vilebone armor plus Carapace helmet did well when I entered Ashlands.

[spark pebble]

100%. Thats why once you get stone portals in a normal run is easy mode.

[fossil delta]

My wife plays with no shields, light armor, and no dodge rolling. She dies far less often than I would have thought, even when she plays solo. So yeah, plenty of different, and viable, ways to play.

[spark pebble]

Just dont be like me and forget to bring iron with you, you can still portal with the cores and make the stone portal at home then bring them though

[tiny mortar]

So uh... Is that a ||moose antler in the cast in the sneak peek?||
^spoilers for the dev insight

[spark pebble]

I am trying to train my wife to parry, she doesnt dodge either, she just gets click happy and only attacks. She dies a lot. Less now that she is starting to parry more.

[fossil delta]

No idea. I was just happy to hear about getting nice steep roofing pieces. 😄 😄

[tiny mortar]

Pls spoiler for people just incase ‼️

[tacit crystal]

Psst, it's ||stegosaurus||.
-# ||Jk.||