❔┃ask-the-community

[crystal jackal]

Which ledb site? 😅
Do you mean le tools?

[hardy forum]

If I usually farm 1k corruption when doing lost cache echoes, and have a "pushed" corruption that's 1.7k, but I sometimes die there, where should I spend my conquered towers? In the highest corruption, right?

[worthy plover]

Yes I mainly only use the item database on it so I just call it database most of the time

When did vendors start selling exalteds? I haven't been checking them as I never even knew that was a thing.

[desert tree]

Ever since we got CoF

That's one of the CoF perks that proccs in the shop

[worthy plover]

Ah nice stuff though, can't believe I never really noticed it. I guess I don't vendor much!

[crystal jackal]

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[graceful cliff]

YO GUYS the error when entering LE-63 or whatever it is exactly can be fixed by just porting away to MG or COF and back.

[crystal jackal]

I’ll give it a try next time.

[graceful cliff]

Yeah it happens to me mostly when I am spamming boss fights. After 10 or so (still random). It will lock up and I just port away and back.
Every now and then it also eats some stability as if you failed the boss. I try to keep that in mind as well.

[shut walrus]

if i imprint an item that has been slammed does it only drop the item as if it wasn't slammed?

[storm blaze]

It will treat it like it had LP

[shut walrus]

what happens if i put apathy's maw in Commoners Riches?

[candid elm]

That's a boss only drop from Shade of Orobyss, so it won't drop from Commoner's Riches Imprint - which only does random drop items

[silver orchid]

Hi, I’m new to the game., I’m starting a Rogue and I really enjoy playing with a bow and focusing on bleed. Is there a build I could follow or aim for please?

[candid elm]

if you aren't sure, you can look the item up on a site like https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/ or https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/uniques and down at the bottom if it doesn't mention "random drop", then it doesn't work with Imprints

For example on Apathy's Maw it just mentions Shade fight and Confluence of Oblivion woven echo which has a bunch of Shades.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAcEYHYE4g

[candid elm]

Sites like https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/ and https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides have guides you can check out. Although note many of them are designed for switching to with a high level character, for example 75+, sometimes with certain items. so may want to instead start with a leveling guide and then switch/respec into a different build later.

[shut walrus]

okay so it let me imprint the apathy's maw but it still won't do anything right

[candid elm]

yeah, it won't drop Apathy's Maw as that's boss only. maybe it'll do something like there's a chance random 2H Axe drop or whatever that probably isn't very helpful

you'd be better off Imprinting an Exalted item or a Unique that is a random drop

[silver orchid]

Thanks you

[shut walrus]

thanks I imprinted another two handed axe in hopes to slam instead

[candid elm]

yeah that's a good use of the Imprints, trying to get extra copies for crafting

[candid elm]

you're welcome, i clicked through the Rogue guides on Maxroll and they do have a high level / end game Bleed Falconer guide. although it's using an axe instead of bow https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/bleed-falconer-guide

[hardy forum]

yaaay, I just had my first imprint upgrade. Imprinted a 667 1h sword with 63 FP, and got a 677 with 46 FP

[silver orchid]

Ah yes i only checked the Marksman, this one looks really good even if it's an axe

[hardy forum]

and this was my imprint

[candid elm]

You are able to respec/change your mastery in the End of Time area. So you can always change from Marksman to Falconer or Bladedancer later. You can change everything except the inital class selection.

If you wanted to play a different class, you'd make a new character.

[shut walrus]

I am wondering since this is my first COF playthrough on how to get double t7s or t7 and t6 affixes efficiently

[tight gale]

frozensentinel has bunch of vids on cof strats and mechanics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4B3IXi9GPI

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQqnuPEVr-n376L2KVgh7Nf8fVJMwRMQN

[hardy forum]

nemesis 😄 he said its hard to force 2t7s from prophecies, and its better to use them for uniques or idols

[shut walrus]

cool 😄

so i have this so basically I should be safe if my void resistance is maxed and my elemental resistances are only 25%?

[shut walrus]

is there a nemesis guide on how to get double t7s

[desert tree]

Spam nemesis tower

[desert tree]

Thats not what that means, but it does mean Ele Res is a bit less mandatory

[hardy forum]

Conquered towers. Basically you need to farm amber. Best is to imprint a rampant coast echo, and then buy amber from the ancient shop

[shut walrus]

im not too familiar with efficiently doing nemesis for double t7s

[worthy plover]

that is such good information in Frozen Sentinels videos, I really didn't realize half that stuff. It isn't a very intuitive system but that is really good info

I think I trashed some perfect imprint items lol

[tired crest]

Wow i did not know about the nemesis tower until now, thank pros 🫡

[desert tree]

Buy a lot of them, place them in a line
Click Empower, there isnt really much to it

[shut walrus]

thank you 🙂

[hardy forum]

Yeah, you just pray that it upgrades the exalts. And while you’re there, put your 0lp items into the EGG, but only at area lvl 100 and preferably cof rank 8 and above (less chance to brick them)

[shut walrus]

i should be okay then

🙂

[hardy forum]

The first 2t7 is the hardest for each item type, then you can imprint. But to be fair, if the unique is an easy 2lp and you got like mid rolls, you can slam a 76 exalt or even a 75. For example, I’ve been running around with a 75 enigma up until today, and my char already heats uber in like 80 secs. So don’t sweat the 2t7s that much imo

[shut walrus]

is there a sweet spot corruption to do this at?

[worthy plover]

What if the sealed affix is T7 does that have a high chance to bounce onto the normal affixes as well as the actual sealed affix if over 30fp even if it isn't together in unison?

And if I have a tier 7 sealed champion or set affix, will it break the entire imprint or have a chance to bounce over to another one even if you can't get the set affix or champion affix to drop through an imprint?

[shut walrus]

does it matter what corruption i do conquered tower at or is it always the same

[worthy plover]

I think people were saying before that corruption doesn't make a real different to the nemesis drops so just do what is comfortable or faster I think

I am sort of wondering if this item will count as a 77 for imprint even if it can't drop with that affix or will it glitch out and not work at all? It has 48fp on it

[shut walrus]

is it normal if i cant empower it anymore? what do I do at this point?

[desert tree]

Corruption doesnt influence the empower proccess
But does give you better base item to empower

[shut walrus]

so my chances of getting 77 is the same?

[silver orchid]

HOLD UP

I got lucky af ! i'm lvl 18

[fallen parcel]

Corruption affects the nemesis so at the start he may have a 2 or 3 t7 item that you can empower and maybe get lucky so higher corruption better exalts from nemesis but its rng you still may get crap exalts ,empower is not affected by corruption though

[worthy plover]

What is the benefit of a possessed Nemesis encounter? Does it just drop memory amber as well?

[worthy plover]

Hmm I put this in out of curiosity and got this out which I'll be honest is confusing me in every possible way

[crystal jackal]

You’re not guaranteed a 2xt7 from imprints if you have a 2xt7 imprinted. There’s reroll chances.
There’s a 9% chance you get a 2xt7 when it procs. So most of the time you get something worse.

And all affixes can reroll. You should watch frozensentinels video about how to craft a imprint base for slamming

[crystal jackal]

You empower each nemesis twice and then challenge them to get the items

[hardy forum]

I don’t think this will proc because it’s a personal sealed affix, meaning it can only exist in the sealed spot. But it would be great if it dropped because I could then farm spark champion belts

[desert tree]

Well yes and no
If you do at 1k corruption you have more chance to get an exalted to start with, meaning more chance to get a double exalted but its because you start with smth higher

[cobalt maple]

Just read the Weaver tree's "primordial ambush" node description, are there really primordial uniques that cannot be bought from the trader?

or is this a known typo? i think its supposed to say non-unique?

[storm blaze]

Some of them can't be purchased and are drop only

[cobalt maple]

i dont see any on last epoch tools... all the ones mentioned on LEtools i can see on trader... i think

[storm blaze]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRhBYGYFYg
for example.

[worthy plover]

With regards to this I had wondered if I could put the t7 champion affix on the sealed imprint slot to get it to drop since it only drops off champions anyway but then champion type would matter so I would assume maybe not. But am still curious if I should try it lol.

[worthy plover]

Well I did watch the video just up from my post but the sealed affix tier wasn't mentioned, so was trying to test if I could unseal the T7 affix, and here I think it might have, or else it just luckily rolled an extra T6 I guess and went from 76s7 to 766.

Do 76 regularly turn into 766 from imprints? Two others that dropped in the same pile interestingly both had t7 added health as their only exalted affix both single 7's with only the sealed affix overwriting the suffix. Since sealed affixes are non-runeable, I was wondering if any of these items I have with sealed 7's can be warped back into regular craftable triplets.

[crystal jackal]

Sealed affixes are mentioned in the video. Did you watch the right one?
Can try and find it a bit later.

[worthy plover]

Well it mentioned the actual affix itself, but I didn't hear mention of it's tier.

[crystal jackal]

Sealed affix can replace any of the existing non sealed t7s.

[worthy plover]

this is sort of why I hate information in video format, I much prefer writing so I can search it. Yeah but thats the actual added health part, not it's tier since no other affix is binded to its tier

Anyway, I am assuming sealed 7's count as valid 7 then for imprinting

I'll maybe test my champion one to see if it comes out as a triplet without champion affix

[crystal jackal]

He has a link to a doc describing everything in the video description

Are you sure you watched the right video?

[crystal jackal]

It doesn’t

[worthy plover]

Actually yeah "sealed affixes have a chance to replace an existing affix type (but not its tier), IF the dropped item has at least 20 forging potential, with better odds at 30fp)" it actually states it WONT replace it's tier does it not?

But are the odds of getting a 76 turning into a 766 reasonable then in general?

[candid elm]

There are currently 25 total Primordial Uniques. 22 of them can be purchased from Skarven Bloodhunter NPC and 3 of them are drop only:
Blossom of Immortal Stone https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRgLGBMCcQ
Carrion of Creation https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRgTALAzCQ
and Permanence of Primal Knowledge https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRhBYGYFYg

The weaver tree node you mentioned, Primordial Ambush, can help get these drop only Primordial Unique items. If you need one for your build.

[worthy plover]

Oh yeah I see the part saying its like 1/1000 so it does happen, I guess it was just random chance possibly impacting my result, but it was after it had only been imprinted for like 5-10 echoes lol

What doe "Eternity Cache critical successes" mean? And also, is there somewhere that gives an idea of the max rolls on idols possible when enchanting them?

[storm blaze]

Critical success on it means that it slams extra stats
Like yo uput in 1LP unique and it picks 2 instead (or more)

[worthy plover]

Oh damn, I didn't even know that could happen

[storm blaze]

It's new since... 1.2 ?

It's not exactly common thing to happen though

[worthy plover]

Yeah it just made me wonder. Pretty cool though!

[cobalt maple]

is there a way to generate storm stacks without using Gathering Storm?

[worthy plover]

I use avalanche to generate mad stacks of storm and then let them rip with tempest strike that is my entire build currently lol

you have to put two points in a completely useless node to get to it though, but its very effective

Im using tempest strike for stacks of lagon and mana regen for more avalanch dumps

I do have gathering storm specialized though, but I don't "use" it ever as a skill

[cobalt maple]

do you use Avalanche manually or trigger it? in some way?

[worthy plover]

I don't channel it, I actually basically double tap it, I chop for about 2-3 seconds and drop two avalanches and then chop more and keep repeating on loop to maintain the best dps I think without pushing myself oom but you can't stand still for long anyway without risking dying so I would say double tapping is how I avalanche

[kindred narwhal]

Avalanche, GS belt and roll and have summons hitting enemies

[cobalt maple]

is your main dps stacking damage over time, or did you manage to make storm bolts strong by themselves?

[worthy plover]

my main dps is avalanche

critical hits

but I churn storm stacks out at insane rates, 2.6+ attack speed it dumps them insanely fast too, and they all contribute massively to freeze and frostbite

[desert tree]

There is a 2h Mace that can do that on melee hit

[kindred narwhal]

Ah yeah the mace

(I would suggest to not use the mace nor do stormstacks, it deals too low dmg but maybe doable by stacking frostbite)

[desert tree]

I have seen it too

It bad aswell

[storm blaze]

I wanted to make a build that used it
And yeaah I regretted it
it felt bad and too low dmg

[kindred narwhal]

If you could up the damage, use TS only with EQ proc -> boulders -> stacks, that'd be kinda cool

[worthy plover]

I mean, its more utility than damage to me, the damage is a bonus

[cobalt maple]

yeah i have no idea how to incorporate Gathering Storm skill into the aftershock on melee into avalanche setup

[cobalt maple]

strongly recommend trying out this setup

[worthy plover]

yeah that would be quite insane, interestingly I have made another character that I was messing around with dots on, and I was using tempest strike to instead cast whirlwinds that buff attack speed and dropped orbs to apply hits for ailments from spell hits faster, but that aftershock thing is pretty neat, thats a lot of procs in 2 second. I have been trying to push 3 attacks in 1 seconds as that is my buff limit but 10 seems quite wild to me unless I am missing something. Even with dual wielding I was thinking the increased attack speed is all I get rather than, double hits per attack or whatever. I am curious now if I could apply 10 melee attacks in 2 seconds somehow.

[cobalt maple]

"whirlwinds that buff attack speed"? which ones are those?

[worthy plover]

oh yeah sorry its actually tornado, it all relies on having a reasonably fast base attack speed but it ramps up quite a lot obviously then with more, in the Tornado tree the attack and cast speed buff thing, I used to use it for mana regen back when we had zero in our tree, but the attack speed was interesting for that specific use of trying to proc more, I enjoy having some autocasts so I can use less buttons as I play with WASD as well. Tempest strike also lets you make the tornado even bigger than normal but its hard to get enough + skill points to use it that way on top of trying to shoot normal tempests to proc it from the top left of the tree and also keep mana regen and speed

combining these sorts of things in the tempest tree for the dot approach I was along with the lagon stacks obviously for damage buffs and the mana regen from no normal tempests at all

its fun, how good that one is I dunno as I just toyed with it on an alt but you can decide lol

melee spell shooting shamans are fun

[cobalt maple]

is there a thing similar to gladiator of Lagon that could give a Druid additional base spell damage outside of items?

[faint cape]

Not really, the commonly used sources are passives, spriggan companion's aura, and bear form's flat spell per strength

[cobalt maple]

omg i just noticed the latter and its amaaazing

[shut walrus]

hey I have been doing COF for the first time and I have been farming runes. What else is good? I was told to farm runes so I am but I don't want to miss out on other stuff

[outer terrace]

Hi guys! I can't load my characters. can anyone help with this?

[icy drift]

Verify the integrity of your files

Usually fixes stuff like this

[outer terrace]

no way

i install game right now

anc check files ;c

this screnn loading so long. i guess this is netework issues. but on different games/ services all works right

if u need any files on my pc , i can take it

[quiet terrace]

That seems like a pc issue instead of network issue

I mean you have 68 Ms which is not a network issue

[outer terrace]

i', from Russia, maybe blocked...

[quiet terrace]

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[hardy forum]

I just spend favor whenever I need something specific, like a unique for a new build. Or if I run out of runes. But other than that I just collect favor. I think I have over 600k now

[shut walrus]

I just got this from nemesis. now all i have to do is imprint it and hope for more 77s to drop

[pale jasper]

Is it a known issue that using the “spend another key to revive instantly” in dungeons sets the boss to tier 1? Annoys me a bit.

Same vein, if you die and use a key to revive in temporal sanctum you don’t get to use the legendary crafting thing.

[desert tree]

Oo

Never heard of that (both)

Please report it in game (press F8)

Also verify your files

Because I died yesterday during Julra, spent another and didnt have any of the problem you mentionned

[pale jasper]

It’s happened to me in all 3 dungeons at least once. It’s been pretty consistent

[crystal jackal]

this is good if you want to slam 1 prefix and 1 suffix

[desert tree]

Oo

[shut walrus]

if i use rune of havoc can a t7 suffix go to a t7 prefix

[crystal jackal]

they can go anywhere, even both to prefix.
the problem is that you need to get your desired affixes on there, and you can't delete the 2 t7s

dont craft on that helm, lets say you drop an identical

[livid bolt]

@desert tree I wanted to warmly thank you for the valuable help you have been giving to the community for so long, I am sure that many others are also grateful even if they don't always express it

[crystal jackal]

you seal the t1 and imprint it.
then you have to wait for a new one to drop and hope the t5 isn't a t5 anymore or try to removal it

so then you have 2 empty slots, which is a prefix and suffix. you can craft on your 2 desired ones (has to be a prefix and a suffix) and thyen havoc them to t7s, then slam

do you see the issue?
if you want to slam e.g. 2 prefixed, you want a helm with 2 t7 suffixes

[shut walrus]

ohh i see

[crystal jackal]

you can use that base as imprint and craft on the drops to make it something you need

[shut walrus]

so dont craft on the 77 i currently have and try to get more 77s?

[crystal jackal]

yeah, what is it that you want to slam?

if you f'ed that one up you're back to square 1

[worthy plover]

what are broken keys meant to do or be for? There doesn't even seem to be a slot for them on keys list

[shut walrus]

i want t7 vitality and t7 increased health

[crystal jackal]

that's a prefix and suffix, so you're on a good path

unless you get really lucky you'll need to craft and reimprint

first try and seal 1 of the affixes and imprint the helm with 3 total affixes without losing too much FP

then when you get a 3 affix drop, you craft your desired affix on the helm and try to seal the other, if you fail, keep farming

once you succeed, craft the other desired affix and havoc

[shut walrus]

ok so step 1 imprint and get another 77

then seal a t1 affix

and then reimprint

[crystal jackal]

t1 is just guaranteed, it's not like won't try if you get a drop with both t4s
even if both are t5s, just try anulling it

try rune of removal it*

nothing to lose anyway, you still have your BiS option imprinted

[shut walrus]

so with the open affix i get from sealing i put the affix i want and then rune of havoc in hopes for t7?

[crystal jackal]

at that point you'll have only 1 desired affix

let me rephrase

Step 1: get a double t7 and imprint -> DONE
step 2: get it with correct prefix/suffix combo and reimprint-> DONE
step 3: create a double t7 with only 3 affixes and imprint -> work in progress
step 4: craft on desired affix on empty slot and try to seal the other, if fail keep farming, if success craft second desired affix and havoc -> comes later

[shut walrus]

thanks man

i understand now

[crystal jackal]

tag me with the slam when you get there

[shut walrus]

add me and i will let u know 🙂

[pale jasper]

This feels like a dumb question. I’ve seen the loading screen tip that talks about elemental penetration based on the level of your map, which goes up to 75. Does that mean I truly need 150 in each element?

[slow eagle]

no

resistances still cap at 75

[pale jasper]

So what is that tip talking about?

[slow eagle]

enemes get 1% all pen per area level, up to 75

so with 75% resistance they cancel each other out

this makes every 1% resistance actually give 1% damage reduction

rather than in like path of exile where going from 80% res to 90% res cuts incoming damage by 50%

[pale jasper]

So they cancel each other out, but some still gives 1% per point? Honestly that confused me more :x

[slow eagle]

okay so a 100 dmg hit comes in at you and you have 75% resistance, the enemy has 75% pen so you take 100 damage

if you have 70% resistance you take 105 damage from that 100 damage hit

[pale jasper]

But having 80% does not mean I’d take 95

I think I get it now

[slow eagle]

yea just dont forget resistances cap at 75%

tho having some overcapped res is always nice for zones that cast curse of death

[pale jasper]

Yeah my helmet wants me to do that for necro

[slow eagle]

the tldr is, don't worry about being slightly undercapped on resistances

[pale jasper]

Thank you, I’m blonde and dumb so I appreciate you eli5 for me

[slow eagle]

but you still want to cap them eventually

[pale jasper]

Oh I have them there now. The small weaver idols make hitting 75 easy

[hardy forum]

I reported it 2 months ago. No response. Reported my stash being totally ruined, no response…

[toxic echo]

no one is ever going to get a response to a bug report. it would take too much time to write everyone a response to every bug. be realistic

they cannot hotfix the season, it has been too long and the internal build has changed too much to patch s3 for bugs.

[hardy forum]

Makes sense

[quiet terrace]

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[lusty patrol]

Is Merchant guilds better than CoF to farm/obtain uniques for specifics builds ?

[toxic echo]

eh, its more what playstyle you prefer. MG is prolly easier if you know what to sell and can make money. tho its pretty dead later in seasons. CoF is just self buffs so its pretty consistent

[candid elm]

i personally have played CoF every season and have been able to put together the items for the builds i wanted to try. it does take some farming, though. but if the build you want needs a very rare item to function, MG could be nice for that. really however you want to play. i enjoy the CoF loot explosions.

[shut walrus]

@crystal jackal i have this right now

i want the increased health t7 so wish me luck haha

[candid elm]

if T7 Increased Health is the only thing that matters, you could raise +Anomaly to T3 so that both Increased Health and Anomaly are T3. Then when you have Havoc, you have a better chance of getting a T7 on Increased Health https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/havoc minor improvement, looks like 5-6% better chance

[shut walrus]

i want t7 increased health and vitality

[shut walrus]

why does anomaly being t3 help with the crafting?

[candid elm]

best of luck on your havocs!

[candid elm]

if the tiers are even, it's slightly more likely you'll get what you want. you can play around with that tunklabs page

[shut walrus]

i either want t7 health and vitality or t7 health and anomaly

so it increases my chances as well

are rampant coasts a good way of getting runes of havoc?

[rapid fossil]

When is the next big update? Fall 2026?

[desert tree]

26th March

[toxic echo]

march 26th, as stated in #news

https://discordapp.com/channels/368953963267096586/416989724415098881/1447737658456674314

[rapid fossil]

Ah nice, thank you.

[pale jasper]

Before I drop like 3 stashes full of non lp uniques, is there anything I can do with them? Like I know there is that one woven echo that you can break sets with

[toxic echo]

you can nemesis them to try to get LP / affixes or you can use them to reroll unique affix values in a woven echo

[shut walrus]

do prophecies drop increased rarity items the higher your corruption is?

[slow eagle]

<@&1161418687471956101> ^

[faint cape]

No, instead corruption gives more xp so you can get more prophecies, and slightly increases average LP and WW of dropped uniques.

[storm wren]

the other call <@&1161418687471956101>

[sonic saddle]

something that was missed: penetration applies after resistance is capped

so overcapping resistance does not provide additional protection against the innate enemy res pen

it does give protection against resist shred effects, but those are rare enough not to be too much of an issue and are cleansable

the enemy resistance pen is there to make having uncapped resistances not as super punishing as it is in some other ARPG's

where missing 5 res from a cap of 75 means you're taking 20% more damage from that damage type (5/25 = 20%)

[slow eagle]

ah forget to mention shred

[crystal jackal]

That was really fast.

[worthy plover]

What is the deal with experimental affixes, is it just a straight 50% chance to be either prefix in the Rune Prison?

[worthy plover]

Does penetration lose any of its potency if you shred somethings armour and resistance by a significant amount?

[cobalt maple]

hard to go above 3/s

[worthy plover]

Yeah that is basically what I was finding too, I was thinking about that though, and it occurred to me, if you say, did a 5 pointed Upheaval which is a melee skill, and it hit 5 different mobs all in different places, it could proc 5 at once is what it is isn't it? So you can only proc it 10 times in 2 secs on AoE melee attacks is likely why it exists as a limit.

I desperately need more attack speed anyway as I changed my mainhand to sceptre instead of a sword and its slow enough for me to notice myself dying between the time I pressed fury leap, and the time he actually uses it now lol so having to slap attack speed on my gloves now

[desert tree]

Penetration and Armor Shred are 2 different bucket

Penetration and Resistance Shred are additive together

So no it doesn't loose potency, but there is linear return with penetration

[crystal jackal]

Armor shred is one multipler. Res penetration + res shred is another multipler.

[crystal jackal]

Dont know. But it feels fully random to me.

[worthy plover]

thanks I was starting to wonder, but I guess I don't have many ways to get either so both together are good then still. Thinking about it logically they are both great then though even in small amounts I should definitely be taking them both. Freeze is great but it is kind of annoying on bosses when it makes them sometimes go into overdrive throwing multiple big attacks all at once overlapping.

Experimental affixes do feel like a bit of a melt to try and get right when crafting. Especially if you want a set affix on say, your shoes.... lol

[crystal jackal]

there’s an armor dmg reduction calculator on tunklab. For each element. You can use that in reverse to see how but multipler you get from armor shred.
There’s a clear drop off. So depending on your attack speed, you don’t need a lot of shred to get most of the value from it

Nvm. There’s a shred tab. You don’t even need to do the reverse math

Just look at number of stacks of armor shred and look up the multipler value in the graph

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/armor

Had to be a hit though if I remember correctly. Doesn’t work if you’re a dot build.

[worthy plover]

I dropped like 250% armour shred on my mainhand the other day and it is pretty damn noticeable while I try to replace it on my amulet instead. Dropping both shreds for freeze was extremely noticeable and +hit to frozen targets doesn't feel as good as them.

Which reminds me of my next question lol, how good is added 0.07 cold cast speed from the set affix on amulet of the invoker on a normal amulet? That one really confused me

[pearl token]

Weird. On a fresh CF character I just got a timeline to 134c but when I start another timeline I am not getting the instant shade fight that lets you catchup corruption

Is there another prerequisite I’m missing?

[tight gale]

needs 40c difference

[pearl token]

Oh damn, ty

[candid elm]

40 Corruption difference or 8+ Gaze

When the difference between the highest Corruption Timeline and the current Timeline is greater than 40, or you have at least 8 Gaze of Orobyss, and the current Echo Web does not contain a Shade Echo, then completing an Echo will create a Shade Echo next to it.
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-patch-1-1-3-notes/73083#corruption-catch-up-buffs-7
Note there does need to be a blank spot next to the echo you completed for Shade echo to be able spawn into.

[pearl token]

Thought I could do two bosses + shade in each timeline for quick harbingers but nope

[candid elm]

I often find it easiest to raise Corruption in one timeline, then use that catch up mechanic to boost the others

[pearl token]

Yeah probably gonna do that, just wanted to try doing blessings and harbingers simultaneously

Can probably easily do it in stages of 50ish corruption at a time

But raising one first probably simplest

[tight gale]

if you have a good build getting to forgotten knights lvl 3 for needle drop chance is pretty good

after that you push the same timeline

[shut walrus]

what class of item are relics? I thought they were armor but its not going into my troves slot

[candid elm]

Jewelry / Accessories. That category of items includes: Rings, Amulets, and Relics.

In game you'll see them referred to as Jewelry, for example with Imprints. On lastepochtools.com site, it's referred to as Accessories in the menu.

[shut walrus]

thank you 🙂

[crystal jackal]

now that you said it, I realized I knew that....it's even like under the loot filter sorting

[balmy current]

Is there any way to jump to a ping if you've been pinged in a channel?

[stark ravine]

If you're on desktop there's the "inbox" section at the top, on mobile there's a notifications section bottom center

[slow eagle]

go to your inbox -> look at mentions

that thingy

[balmy current]

I was totally not going to google that 😄

[slow eagle]

Hey look this showed up in your mentions

[balmy current]

Ooooo, it does

Ta 🫂

[candid elm]

On my phone I search for mentions:sweetgoat if I can't find the @ / reply.

[shut walrus]

whats the best way to get 77 rings/amulets since i cant do them by nemesis

[vapid steppe]

whats the weaver strat now? I remember I use to just do false temple/lostwood folly

[shut walrus]

when my loot filter reaches maximum rules what should I do?

[slow eagle]

Condense rules if you can

Ie: instead of 3 rules for decent good great items, make 1 rule for all 3

[shut walrus]

I disabled single t6 and its still showing...

[candid elm]

Open the filter screen with items on the ground. Next to the item names you'll see a number, which corresponds to the filter line number that is making the item show. If they're hidden and you push the key to toggle the filter, on a keyboard that is typically the X key, it will then show what filter line is hiding the item.

[shut walrus]

thanks i figured it out

[shut walrus]

im trying to find a specific item with a specific affix but i only want it to be t7... it only shows exalted

[worthy plover]

How did you disable tier 6 I was trying to do that and gave up lol

[candid elm]

Sorry I don't understand, T6-T7 is Exalted ?

[worthy plover]

Oh wait you are still trying to do it, yeah I couldn't find a way to do that tbh, I just mark anything with T7 a different colour manually or destroy them all later

[shut walrus]

im trying to only have t7 shown to me

[candid elm]

Condition: [Affix]
Properties: select the affixes you want to see.
With at least [1] of these affixes on the item. - or however many you want
Check Advanced Options.
Tiers of individual affixes must be: [More or Equal] than [T7]
Total affix tier of: [any]

[candid elm]

^ for you as well

[worthy plover]

Yeah I think I got to that part but all my rules are for 2 affixes so I was like, screw that lol

I have one for any with total tiers of affixes being 13 so it flags any doubles with one t7, but I couldn't find a way to not overwrite all my rules by preceeding them with one in some way. I was trying to hide anything with 1 tier of any with 6 or less, but that didn't really work either as it will blast any 76 even or 776 I think and just add every affix possible excluding idols etc.

[shut walrus]

is there something wrong with this body armour? I have had it imprinted for several hours and im not getting any drops

[worthy plover]

Just unlucky I guess Rngesus can be pretty mean

What is the deal with this lizard? He didn't drop anything particualrly notable, but I've never noticed them having a name before. Just curious.

[slow eagle]

some of them get names

their mostly references, like "pig" is legit just a dudes pet lizard

[worthy plover]

lol nice, that is pretty funny

yeah ok actually I just saw another one called Lenny, I probably just didn't notice this before lol

[shut walrus]

is stun chance a good affix to have?

[vale thistle]

builds that use stun affixes exist, but they're kinda rare

[fallen parcel]

No

Not as useless as stun avoidance that affix shouldn't exist

[worthy plover]

wait I have health and stun avoidance on my list. Is it worse than just regular health? I thought it might be helpful lol

[rocky rapids]

it's ok on like an amulet in some situations if you have both health suffixes, otherwise the normal health affix rolls higher and is therefore generally preferred

[fallen parcel]

In amulet you get idk 155 health s with stun avoidance that's ok but having 211 flat health is better and having stun avoidance on rings its very bad cause its alone

[fallen parcel]

Do sealed affixes count towards imprint like if I got 2 prefix t7 and 1 sealed suffix t7 is my item considered 3 t7 for imprint

[worthy plover]

Is there any better way to farm Temporal Keystones? Do they drop more if stability is kept full or anything? They are very handy for banging out timeline boss prophecies but unsure there is any way to get more of them better. Also still don't know what "broken key" prophecy rewards are, even though I keep taking them hoping to notice I forget to watch for what drops.

[worthy plover]

I was trying to test this the other day and my 76s7 came out as a 766. I wasn't sure what to make of that.

I also noticed that two other things that dropped in the same pile, both were helmets with single 7's with t7 added health from the sealed affix. This made me even more curious. Again though, probably just rngesus trolling me.

#❔┃ask-the-community message

[crystal jackal]

No.

[faint cape]

Not exactly, but sealed affixes can randomly take the place of the regular affixes

[manic abyss]

is there a way to filter by item level? I want to start a new character and its hard to look through my pages and pages of items to find one that I can even use at a low level

or 'able to use'

[worthy plover]

#❔┃ask-the-community message

I had to ask something similar and I remember this reply was very good for stash searching

[manic abyss]

oh cool, yes i see 'lvl' as a search macro, just need to figure out how to do a lvl range now. thanks!

[blazing glacier]

Yes, but like Father said they can take the place of the affix, so if you have a sealed T7 suffix and a natural T7 suffix it would result in fewer 2T7s than sealed T7 suffix and natural T7 prefix.

But since your suffix is sealed T7 and you have natural T7 prefixes, yeah it's essentially 3T7 for imprint sake. Granted if the sealed affix is high reroll chance (eg. hybrid health) the seal will proc less often than a natural affix, if low reroll chance it will proc more often than a natural affix.

[worthy plover]

so we really want the lowest rarity affixes we need on the imprint and to craft and havoc the rarer affixes on then? I hadn't really considered that. I was trying to get the rarer affixes so they could duplicate but I gather now that may be counter productive

[cobalt maple]

how do i get to act 10 normally? without asking somebody for tp?

[storm blaze]

After you beat Majasa

[cobalt maple]

more specific? i have an act 10 questline on my questlog but maybe i didnt grab waypoint

[storm blaze]

You kill act 9 boss and go to the room after it. there was a cutscene

[worthy plover]

Do you have any videos or documents that specifically tutor on how to best utilize the Warlords Riches sealed affix imprint?

[blazing glacier]

I dont remember them by name but if you are talking about the one that puts the affix as sealed pretty sure its trash, at least we haven't found a good use case for it yet.

[worthy plover]

I was trying to work out in my head if there might be a way to craft something crazy like this or better item using it, even if crazy low RNG or whatever, just out of curiosity. But am unsure, exactly what happens to the "rest" of the item other than the sealed affix that gets moved that is referred to in the tooltip. I guess I considered it even just like, making champions drop a new affix that I want, but I assume the rest of the item that drops is RNG entirely other than maybe the subtype?

Or alternatively for trying to seal T7 movement speed on boots just to save me FP trying to seal set affix on boots before adding another affix to put in the experimental rune prison machine to add haste on traversal to boots with a set prefix, as well as having movement speed t7 easier, since I have to havoc the experimental affix if I want t7 without losing the t7 movement speed or crit avoidance, even if I don't care about that particular set affix being only t1+ or whatever although it also has +chance to give haste so preferably a little above 1 is still beneficial. I guess after creating this item, the t7 movement speed might be excessive anyway if I could actually get that much haste given that Fury Leap cd is 3.6s and I cast it on cd, but more is always nice. I get that it is probably pretty ridiculous but still, I'd like to dream.

I'm also trying to get experimental and set affix on gloves in dreamworld, and that set affix also benefits significantly from being havoc'd

[crystal jackal]

what are the odds of a t7 sealed e.g. suffix becoming a regular t7 suffix if you have only 2t7 prefixes, a low tier suffix and an empty suffix?

[shut walrus]

is there something wrong with this body armour? i have it imprinted for the past day and not getting any drops

[blazing glacier]

Pretty high, depending on the reroll chance of the affix, should be over 40% chance on proc for low reroll chance

[crystal jackal]

does that mean it's 0,40,3100=12% chance to end up with a, in the example above, t7 suffix, even if it's not the same one as you sealed?

[shut walrus]

will this node affect me farming nemesis

[candid elm]

No, it's just saying that when you select Empower that the Nemesis will drop random Exalted weapons that upgrade into "Avenged" version after they're used to defeat a Harbinger. The ones with a "Upgrade when you slay a Harbinger" Implicit line. And the Avenged version shows what type of Implicit you get. Here's a list of those weapons.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/search?query=avenged&in_description=1&exact_match=0
For example Kolheim Axe is the base type and then Avenged Kolheim Axe shows what Implicit it will get.

[shut walrus]

ohhh i see now

[candid elm]

I don't believe these weapon base types are particularly popular. But maybe there's a build out there that uses one

[shut walrus]

If I imprint a 77 body armour what are the chances it will drop another 77? I keep getting single 7s and I feel like I'm doing something wrong

[candid elm]

I don't know if the exact % chances are known? I believe some content creators like FrozenSentinel have done videos on Imprints if you wanted to check some out

[mortal pollen]

sorry if this is a stupid question/wrong place but im looking at buying one of the supporter packs and was wondering if the cosmetic armor sets were universal too all classes like can i use the same armor set on my accolyte aswell as templar ?

[faint cape]

All cosmetics are able to be equipped on all classes. The only ones that are restrictive are weapon/offhand ones, which can only apply to the listed weapons/offhand types (basically ones with the same animations).

[mortal pollen]

tysm for the informitave answer 🙏

[candid elm]

Yes, the Armor Cosmetics can be used by any class. Also the Back Attachments.

The Weapon Cosmetics are often for a certain type of weapon, for example if it says Two Handed Staff then it's not going to used on a One Handed Sword.

And the Skill Cosmetics are for a certain Skill. Example the Polar Bear Summon Cosmetic is just for the Primalist Beastmaster.

https://portal.lastepoch.com/shop/item?itemid=8dd7ca31-00c7-4ecb-a7cd-60ebe70cbc5e

Oh and the pets in the pet section are usable by everyone.

[mortal pollen]

thankyou so much aswell for the extra information! 🙏

[candid elm]

I think it was mostly the same info FatherToast said, just had been sitting there slowly writing it up on my phone and thought I might as well post it. Took me too long though. Slow phone typer

[faint cape]

Oh yeah thanks, I forgot they added skill cosmetics when I answered

[candid elm]

For supporter packs I believe your answer is correct, I don't think there's individual skill cosmetics in those

[barren stump]

Can anyone share, is there a way to farm exalted champion items? Let's say I want T7 exalted / T5+ maximum shadow on gloves.

Is there anything worth paying attention to? and can imprint Warlord's Riches help in this?

[shut walrus]

if i want to farm a lp1 shattered chains should i just do map - shade - map - shade and repeat?

or is it more common when you go further down the echo web?

[desert tree]

Regular champion exalt are a pain to get
Only way to boost is to get all the champion nodes in Weaver Tree
If you want a primo exalted champion, the Woven echo with all the beasts is where you want to go

Not sure about Warlord Riches

[severe valve]

there is also a certain woven echo where you encounter multiple champions

[barren stump]

Champion's Colleseum?

[severe valve]

could be, im not sure

[severe valve]

no its not that one, that one is only for arena champions

[severe valve]

I think its called pillar of skulls

[slow eagle]

<@&1161418687471956101>

[worthy plover]

I just tried to put something in my stash and it seems to have completely disappeared from the game entirely

oh no wait I found it lol

which reminds me, does Vaions chariot damage benefit from haste?

[slow eagle]

haste gives movement speed so I'd assume yes

[faint cape]

yeah

unless it doesn't (i.e. FG's 2h + shield thing)

[blazing glacier]

It's around 18% for 2T7 imprint to give 2T7 output on proc, vs about 50% for 1T7 output. Of course there are a lot of variables that can make that higher or lower, and also the proc rate will vary, and the proc itself can give more than one item.

[shut walrus]

how does this work? I'm trying to put boots in and it's not accepting them

[crystal jackal]

Do the boots have 4 affixes?

[craggy pawn]

im wondering since we are so late into the season and usually market in arpg is not very active anymore, is it better to go for the ssf faction anyway?

[crystal jackal]

I always play the SSF faction. If you haven’t done it before, you should give it a try. You get to experience way more of the game than just buying stuff from trade.

[cobalt maple]

has there been any known bugs with this? my phys damage increased stat goes down when i equip it (yes, im dualwielding), but dps approximation goes up, i cant tell which is which

[desert tree]

It goes down when you equip it and you had nothing in that slot ?

Oo I am testing it and it does mess with the character sheet xD

Empty Slot

With Relic ( thats supposed to give me 93% btw)

Once I took the relic out

Sp weird

@cobalt maple Make sure to bug report this

Ill do it too

[cobalt maple]

whats that gonna do lol

[desert tree]

Give them more data and hopefully make it easier for them to fix the issue

Is that a real question ?

I do, yes

But keep acting edgy its fine

[storm blaze]

Aww I missed it because I'm cooking

[severe valve]

So I have this kinda complicated question about the off hand catalyst "Gordian Prism" in combination with the Body Armor "Fundamental criterion" :
Gordian prism says that no matter what rune combination I use, it will always cast Grand Prism nova. Plus it will convert the novas base damage into whatever runes I used to invoke it with.
Lets say i will use Gon Gon Gon to invoke it, that means it will completely be lightning damage.
Does that mean I need to stack Dexterity then because of Fundamental Criterion because it now has Gon Rune as second Rune? Or does it stay Rah Rune as second Rune which would mean i need to stack attunement?

[candid elm]

It's used if you want a specific Experimental Prefix, here's a list of those: https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/experimental-affixes

It takes a Boots, Gloves, or Belt with 2x Prefixes. It takes 1 FP to use. It won't accept an item that already has an Experimental Prefix. The higher the Prefix tiers, the better chance you'll get a higher tier Experiments Prefix out of it, up to T5. If you need higher tier, you can then use Rune of Havoc to try to shuffle the tiers. Patch notes from when it was introduced
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-tombs-of-the-erased-patch-notes/75247#heading--crafting-experimental

[worthy plover]

When, I guess any skill, is converted in any way, from physical to cold, lightning, poison, whatever, the tooltip usually gives an indication of what changes. But I am wondering is that Gospel or is that just for info, and do skill conversions all apply the same? Like Bleed -> Frostbite, Slow -> Chill, but if it doesn't state it, does it still change Stun -> Freeze Rate Multiplier? Like are all conversions absolute in that respect, or do we actually have to pay attention to what the tooltip states? I would assume they are total even if it doesn't say it, but it's hard to tell when it applies directly to the skill itself and not your character sheet as such. Curious about this as it seems logical it might apply but wanted to check.

[candid elm]

If someone here doesn't have an answer, check with #🧙┃mage channel

[desert tree]

They are done on a case by case basis, making them very erratic

[worthy plover]

Ah ok, funny I did notice something getting stunned in the middle of a mess there and thought, damn, that must be stunning then lol

[worthy plover]

does corruption level apply to rune prison experimental machine? I just ran lowest possible to do it super fast and got 5 tier 1's...

[candid elm]

I don't believe so. The patch notes from when it was introduced indicated

• Must have 2 prefixes and not have an Experimental affix.
• The chance of higher tier outcomes increases with the combined prefix tiers. Exalted prefixes tiers contribute much more increase to the chance for higher tier outcomes.
• Max tier outcome is 5, but a Rune of Havoc can be used to swap an Exalted tier onto the Experimental affix you added.
  https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-tombs-of-the-erased-patch-notes/75247#heading--crafting-experimental

[candid elm]

Sounds like it's supposed to be related to the total prefix tiers

[worthy plover]

Oh so the tiers need to be high to begin with. Given I am trying to put it on boots after sealing a set affix then I can probably just forget about having any haste on my build lol

it was a nice thought though

[candid elm]

You could also try Havoc to shuffle it to a higher tier

[worthy plover]

I'm honestly not even that worried about its tier, but 4 or 5 would be nice, given that 50% of the time it is overwriting movement speed affix. Back to chain banishing Nemesis praying for any 77s an just use movement speed instead

[faint cape]

None of the woven echo exclusive "crafting benches" scale with corruption

[crystal jackal]

<@&1161418687471956101>

[slow eagle]

<@&1161418687471956101>

[shut walrus]

can exiled mages drop 77s with 1 of them experimental and 1 regular affix?

[storm blaze]

They can drop t7s yes

[shut walrus]

im trying to get t7 frenzy and t7 health and im doing Rune Prison Complex on imprint

[storm blaze]

Well good luck with that

[shut walrus]

im getting a lot of 76s

will this change my frenzy?

its t6

[storm blaze]

It will change to non experimental if I'm not reading it wrong

[shut walrus]

it says exalted affixes so frenzy is an exalted affix? it can range from t1-t7

[icy drift]

If it's tier 6 or 7 it's exalted

[shut walrus]

oh okay

[candid elm]

Rune Prison Complex craft gives up to T5, but you can use Havoc to make it T7.

[candid elm]

From the patch notes from when Rune Prison Complex woven echo was introduced

• Must have 2 prefixes and not have an Experimental affix.
• The chance of higher tier outcomes increases with the combined prefix tiers. Exalted prefixes tiers contribute much more increase to the chance for higher tier outcomes.
• Max tier outcome is 5, but a Rune of Havoc can be used to swap an Exalted tier onto the Experimental affix you added.
  https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-tombs-of-the-erased-patch-notes/75247#heading--crafting-experimental

[shut walrus]

i just got this

[slow eagle]

🎉

[shut walrus]

okay so im at 300 corruption and im holding down my rive skill for Void Knight with 251% stun chance and the shade isn't even attacking

is this the same at higher levels of corruption

[desert tree]

Stun chance is based on Hp

[toxic echo]

nah. more health means it will be harder to stun

[desert tree]

So higher corruption means more hp means less stun

[shut walrus]

ah okay

[cobalt maple]

how do i get to Haven of Silk normally?

[toxic echo]

do one cemetery

[modest hound]

I posted in #💀┃acolyte and #💬┃general but it doesn't seem to have very high traffic. Is there anyone willing and or able to help with my current build?

[candid elm]

Could just be the time of day. It's 2:30 PM on a Thursday here and people are at work or school. You can post here as well

[modest hound]

Thank you 😊

[native sail]

Tier what

[slow eagle]

tier 6 or 7 it says it right there HOLD IN THE 67 MEME

t8 is primal

[icy drift]

You're fried

[slow eagle]

I can't judge the 67 meme cause I laughed my ass off at the E meme

[native sail]

Only a little. I fish for reactions. It's funny.

[worthy plover]

A lot of uniques are bypassing my loot filters recently and when I check there is no reason for it. It doesn't disappear even if I move a rule to hide that specific unique right to the top of my filters list so I know something is wrong but not sure what or how to fix it. Is this a known or common issue that has a fix?

ah ok removing it then updating then adding it back and updating fixed it actually

[shut walrus]

maybe you bricked your loot filter somehow 🙂

what builds use this? I am wondering if I should imprint it and loot for lp

[rocky rapids]

most commonly used on marksman/bow builds these days bc spell builds have grasp, melee builds have immortal vise, and throwing builds have lirakas

[candid elm]

If you're interested, here are the other items Diamonos mentioned
Grasp of the Blood Mage https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRhGYHYCYg
Immortal Vise https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRgTALCCsQ
Li'raka's Claws https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCsEYGYBYg

[modest hound]

Anyone around?

I'm looking for a suggestion for an end game class that is super easy to run. Like one or two buttons easy.

[fallen parcel]

Reflect paladin seems that way, reflect shaman has to spam more ,warpath void knight also falls in that category

[modest hound]

What about heartseeker rogue?

Thanks for those suggestions btw I will read into them. 😊

[fallen parcel]

If you are looking at ease to play i think its gonna be more challenging

[modest hound]

I appreciate your opinion, thank you.

[fallen parcel]

If you want a build that is very spammy but its very low button as well and you are insanely tanky while having good dps pally judgement consecrated ground

[modest hound]

And this does well endgame?

Do you have a link to a build guide perchance?

[fallen parcel]

It does uber though its gonna be a really long fight since it was one of the op builds last season so got nerfed a bit still facetanks the hardest challenge in the game

[fallen parcel]

Maxroll one is fine to follow for the most part

[shut walrus]

if i imprint this ring will it increase that chance of tier 6 becoming a 7 making it a 77?

[coarse parcel]

can Red Ring of Altaria spawn from here ?

[desert tree]

No

[crystal jackal]

The t6 has to ”fail” and reroll, then it needs to roll a t7 with like a 1-2% chance.
Probably more efficient to imprint something else you need while you wait for a 2xt7 ring.

[slow eagle]

<@&1161418687471956101>

[cobalt maple]

guys, what was or would've your season starter? something that's least gear dependent

[slow eagle]

hammer throw paladin

[rocky rapids]

always a good league starter. i started storm crows beastmaster this season

[crystal jackal]

time rot, was easy sailing all the way to aberroth

[desert tree]

Ailment Hammer Throw

[cobalt maple]

spiraling around one?

[slow eagle]

Smite on throwing hit, if you like spirals make it spiral

[icy drift]

Shatter

[cobalt maple]

y not Javelin?

[icy drift]

Strike

[icy drift]

Hammer results in more hits vs single target

[cobalt maple]

how so...

[icy drift]

How not so

[slow eagle]

Jav also wants you to use a spear which means no shield

[icy drift]

Each hammer throw can be like 3+ hits if you spiral

[icy drift]

On bosses even more since they're big

[cobalt maple]

what's the shield for :D

[icy drift]

Can you spam that without running out of mana though

[slow eagle]

It increases your not die

Your damage becomes zero if your dead

Also paladin gets spell damage for having a shield which boosts your triggered smites

[cobalt maple]

well, need throwing mana cost on rings and some mana regen, yeah

[icy drift]

Idk feels like you'd need quite a lot while hammer throw you need pretty much nothing and it gives around the same amount of hits anyway

[cobalt maple]

is storm totem nerfed/dead or

[icy drift]

Plus it's nicer for mapping

Like for spiraling hammer throws for a big target you can get like 6 hits per cast

So about the same as javelin

[cobalt maple]

yeah, i was thinking it definitely easier to map with, but i never tried it, thats why i asked if spiral or not... is there any way to make it on cooldown or spirals to last longer

[icy drift]

Don't think you can make them last much longer but they last a decent amount of time by default

You just walk around casting it here and there

[cobalt maple]

soooo is the main damage smite or dots ?

im assuming dots

[icy drift]

Depends on how you build it

Can be smite

But you can go dots too

Since you can make hammer throw free when on 0 mana so it's great with devotion

For low mana smite

[rocky rapids]

dots usually perform best in general, smite contributes to dot dps, but the effect is particularly noticeable on low gear where dot is really fantastic

[slow eagle]

Yummy base dot dmg

[rocky rapids]

and in addition to having many hits hammer throw has a ton of great more multipliers that apply to dots

[slow eagle]

And many hits per hammer means even more dot applications

🎉

And the extra best part, you really don’t have to care about your weapon that much

Just applicable aliment and increased damage affix

[elfin rampart]

Hey guys, can you please tell me what's the difference between seasons and standard mode? I stopped playing back in early access and want to go back

[icy drift]

Content wise nothing. Seasonal characters simply get transferred to legacy at the end of the season so people can have a fresh start in the new season if they want to

If you're gonna start playing now I'd just make a character on legacy and go CoF since we're deep in a season so the MG economy is very slow

[elfin rampart]

thanks!

[coarse parcel]

How much till the season ends ? Anybody knows or any estimates ?

[coarse parcel]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/bleed-hammerdin-paladin-guide#skills-header
Is this the hammer throw starter you guys wedre talking about above ?

[kindred narwhal]

It should be 54 days (1 month and 26 days, next season is March 26th)

[coarse parcel]

tyvm

[south narwhal]

i came back after along break and really stuggliing with forging any recommended guides you all know of?

[candid elm]

If you want written guides, on Maxroll, under the Resources section, there's a number of guides

[candid elm]

There's also guides on YT if you prefer videos

[south narwhal]

ty so much

practiced around with some older gear to get a feel for it, still forgetting something but ill catch up on vid's thanks again!

[slate valve]

where can i find this stat

[blazing umbra]

monolith modifier

It's for mobs, not you

[slate valve]

ouch

[blazing umbra]

pretty sure you can see it in the mob's name but I'm not 100% on that one

[icy drift]

yea you can

[blazing umbra]

was doubting myself ty

[icy drift]

If you go into ailment sources and there are none it's most likely that you can't attain it yourself

[narrow ore]

Um, so, what are lizard tails? I see them mentioned in the Gilded Tails node on the weaver tree.

[storm blaze]

They're key items but have no actual purpose yet

There is no secret lizard level

[crystal jackal]

You need the leg for that

[narrow ore]

What are some good set items to feed to the Great Bridge?

It's the only pre-corruption woven echo I haven't done yet

[cobalt maple]

is there a way to reduce summon bear's cooldowns for Swipe, Earthquake and Roar? (pls @ me, thanks)

[desert tree]

Minion cdr idols

[barren plover]

What are you guys favorite systems inside LE?

[icy drift]

Probably the crafting

[wild siren]

Any Dota 2 players here? Trying to get the keybinds similar

[slow eagle]

I do… but I also use wasd and 1234 in dota

🎉

[wild siren]

Tryiing to get the basic attack and move to be the same

[slow eagle]

I don’t think you can have move and attack both on m1… tho basic attack kinda never gets used past like lvl 1

Every class gets a free skill or two that I normally just stick on right click

As my basic/auto attack replacer

I think the devs are planning/working on letting us put a skill on m1/move

But that’s not implemented

[wild siren]

Ok i will keep that in mind prob a lot less baisc attacks than dotaa

[slow eagle]

Yea like on Sentinel, rive/multistrike/vengeance all work as basic attack replacers

Smite too if you like casting spells

And since they have skill trees their a lot stronger than the auto attack

[wild siren]

Dota you ccan right click almsot everything lol ok thanks for ur help

[slow eagle]

You can also rebind things to other keys too

Like I put my two most used skills (after what’s on my m2) on Q and E

Then my other two skills on 1 and 3

I use wasd for movement

[wild siren]

Tried that way too not bad. I dont thnk i see the setting but i will ask anyway, is there a way to keep attacking as long as something is aloive?

[compact berry]

Hi can anyone confirm if the steam deck lag has been fixed ?

[cobalt maple]

is there a known bug with Fangs of the Berserker?

#🐺┃primalist message

[candid elm]

You should be able to just hold down a Skill's assigned button to keep using it

[worthy plover]

So if something says "100% of cold damage taken as physical" then does that mean i don't need to build any cold resist at all yeah?

[slow eagle]

Unless your converting something else to cold, yea

Things can not convert twice

[worthy plover]

I am just noticed how nice this primordial amulet is the blossom of immortal stone and am wondering if I then can just let them all soak as physical into my armour instead, will it also mean my armour is more effective against those damage types as well I take it?

[slow eagle]

Yea

Armor works better vs physical

So converting non phys to phys is better

[worthy plover]

oh YES this is why I was asking because I was about to match it with this because surely then I just need to +20% physical and get mad damage reduction against all those damage types

[slow eagle]

Yee

[worthy plover]

It is just way too annoying trying to craft good exalteds with sealed reforged sets even though I was loving it. This combo seems super tanky

wait does Julras ring also work with evades not just traversal skills?

oh yeah that is bad actually since its cooldown

[faint cape]

Yeah, you just need 115% phys res to cap that out for all the damage types that get taken as phys

[worthy plover]

Ah yes +40% not 20 my bad, still that is pretty easy

[faint cape]

Yeah, conveniently null portent also gives a good chunk of it

[native sail]

Portent my beloved

[worthy plover]

How much +freezerate or freeze per chill is required to freeze Ubberoth with concoction from potion use? And I see that warcry says 1.5 sec stun on use, and it seems to suggest it is guaranteed in the node that reduces cooldown that I use, but am going to drop to take the stricter cc application, but it doesn't seem to tell me the freezerate of warcry when converted anywhere, so it is 100% guaranteed freeze when used and it hits even on Uberroth?

Concoction also seems to be a problem as, if I need to actually heal or use my brew masters buckle then its going to accidentally freeze it too. But I would need to calculate the threshold for accompanying freeze affixes required to land it consistently opposed to a guaranteed freeze.

Freeze affixes and frostbite seem a bit of a negative to me now after being really excited about building freeze into my build finally. And being forced to use warcry this way, really messes with my melee attack speed buff from it by making its cooldown kind of awful again. I think I need to change both my weapons too after realizing how bad it sort of is as I am using Freezing Ire and Yruns Pennance... In fact, I seem to have very little reason to be using cold damage at all now after analysing all of this. Other than physical will rely more on armour shred I guess. But didn't someone tell me enemies have no actual armour so the armour part vs physical is non-factor?

Alternatively, is it possible to build so much freeze affixes, that you can chain freeze Uberroth to an extent at which, you practically cancel all his skill before he lands them? I know there is a freeze/stun immunity after being cc'd like in most games, but I can't see anywhere it tells me exactly what that is or how it works in detail. And I gather that boss ward possibly exists to stop us burning bosses down in one go, but I imagine it also forces periods of heightened CC resistance too. Are guaranteed freezes/stuns the only reliable/consistent way to use it for bosses?

Hilariously I trimmed that down twice and it was still an essay

[desert tree]

There is no FRM that will garantied a freeze (I mean maybe a billion, would have to do the math)
Warcry is a special case because it's a garanted cc

[worthy plover]

I guess the way I was thinking of that as even if it is a percent chance to freeze, if it was 10% chance to freeze, and I could make say, 10 chances to freeze a second, it would be reasonably consistent wouldn't it? And then the immunity would also factor in, if it is 1 second or whatever as well. That was what I sort of meant by that, not so much guaranteed but consistent when toggled or whatever, like I could achieve a stun in around 2 seconds or 3 seconds etc. if I could understand the exact thresholds and know my exact chance to stun said target. I guess perhaps that Tunk place could let me work that out but I am not great with technical information like that so I'll probably screw the calculation up lol

[candid elm]

Math on Freeze is listed in the in game guide or online here https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/freeze
Freeze rate on the Freezing Concotion from the "Freeze Rate and Freezing Concoction on Potion Use" prefix is 400, listed here https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/freezing_concoction
Health and Ward for Uber Abberoth is listed here https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/npc/UberAterroth

There may be some additional modifiers for Feeze on bosses that I'm not aware of, though.

[ember mango]

anyone know how i get "legends entwined" set effect to work? What other parts do i need to have for it to work?

[toxic echo]

just wear other sets/reforged affixes

[ember mango]

but i can only wear one primordial item at once

[toxic echo]

sets arent primordial

[undone otter]

sets arent primordial

jinx 😛

[toxic echo]

they are just normal crafted gear

https://tenor.com/view/jaja-hahaha-run-running-running-away-gif-14097702707561656636

[undone otter]

(or normal green unique items )

@ember mango https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/itemsets

[ember mango]

-_- bruh

thanks

[undone otter]

the ring just counts as a piece of a set if you're wearing set pieces

so instead of having to wear (random example) of a Helm and Amulet for a set

you can pick one - and then use the Legends Entwined

and use a diff item in the other slot

[ember mango]

ahh okay

now i get it 😄 thanks for explaining

[undone otter]

its nothing to with other primordial items

np!

[shut walrus]

if I imprint this can the sword implicit change to higher melee damage?

[toxic echo]

no implicits are tied to the base

that one will always be 60

[rocky rapids]

it can, however, roll into a different base type that may have higher damage on the implicit

[shut walrus]

is there a way to improve the LP of items by doing prophecies? like lenses or something?

[toxic echo]

nah they drop how they drop.

there are some rank stuff i think

but its just whatever it rolls on the drop

there is one proph type that gaurantees a 1lp

but its SOOOO expensive

its not really worth

[crystal jackal]

Are you doing turtle woven echo?

[shut walrus]

nah im just doing 5x body armour prophecies and im not getting a single 2lp titan heart

[toxic echo]

turtle is a great way to gamba the 1lp titan hearts

[shut walrus]

yeah? is there a chance it will become 2lp from 1lp?

[toxic echo]

yes....thats the entire point of it. it either goes up, or goes to 0

[shut walrus]

i mean what are the odds it will improve or brick?

[toxic echo]

and if it goes to 0, then you nemesis it

the same as naturally dropping a 2lp

and its not a brick

[crystal jackal]

Do you need to save the 1LP ones for something?

[shut walrus]

nah im just unaware of this woven echo

[crystal jackal]

Try it. It’s called turtle something

[shut walrus]

i will let you know how it goes 🙂

[quasi hatch]

Praise be turtle

[toxic echo]

farsight turtle

[shut walrus]

so if i bring 10 1lp titans i can use all of them when i complete the farsight turtle map?

and it has a chance to bring lp to 0 or lp to 2?

[native sail]

Technically it has a chance to bring it to 4LP, but good luck

[toxic echo]

you can bring 100 if you want, there is no cap

[crystal jackal]

You don’t need to bring anything. You can access stash from the turtle

[toxic echo]

but yes

[candid elm]

edit: Experimental Affix crafting also has 5x uses. Aren't almost all the woven echo "crafting benches" unlimited use? Isn't it just something like The Great Bridge for Set shattering gives you maybe 3 uses? Maybe I'm forgetting another one that has a limit as well.

I think they all give you access to the stash as well, thankfully.

[desert tree]

Mage craft is limited too, no?

[eager nacelle]

hi! my friend can't see the "Respecialize Mastery" option at Chronomancer Lerinne at end of time, he is lvl 45 , he want to change to falconer maestry, Are there any requirements that it is not meeting?

he only see the first option I dunno why :S

[icy drift]

Is he on English?

[eager nacelle]

nope on spanish, could be that the problem?

[icy drift]

Yep

It's a pretty old bug

I don't remember how to get it without swapping but since it's not something you need to do often swapping to English real quick and respeccing mastery then swapping back should be fine

[craggy pawn]

can we make our minion agressive

so they wont come to us when we run away

[eager nacelle]

thanks ^^

[icy drift]

Np

[icy drift]

Yes

[craggy pawn]

how

[icy drift]

Top left there's either a shield or sword icon and a keybind next to it

Press the keybind to toggle your minions between aggro and defensive mode

[craggy pawn]

tyvm

[icy drift]

Np

[simple pelican]

How do you increase DOT damage? Does DOT respond to "increase X damage type?"

By example, does Bleed respond to "increased phys damage"?

[desert tree]

Bleed scale with
%Phys Dmg
%Damage Over Time

Also %Phys Pen
%Phys Pen for Bleed

[simple pelican]

I see. And I take it it's a similar pattern for all other DOT's?

[desert tree]

Correct

[simple pelican]

Burn scales with %Fire Damage and so on.

Gotcha.

So +melee or +spell damage to a weapon does nothing, correct?

[desert tree]

Also you can have more than 100%chance

[simple pelican]

Oh yes, I know, haven't played much with DOT.

typically play minionmasters.

[desert tree]

200% means 2 stacks per hit

Last things that scales dots are attribute (the one corresponding to the skill that applies the Ailment)

And More Dmg from the skill that applies the Ailment

[simple pelican]

Oh good to know.

So supposing a skill scales +4% damage per Int, hypothetically.

And this skill itself deals bleed or is made to inflict bleed by passives/gear, that particular proc will scale based on Int.
But if I have a second skill that scales off, say, strength, then my hypothetically lower strength would mean weaker Dot.

Bleed deals 100 damage per tic hypothetically. 5 int means +20% bleed damage per tic for skill A, but my 2 strength for ability B scaling off of strength means I get +8% damage to my bleed proc.

[desert tree]

✅✅

Also the "More Dmg" from your skill

Like this one

I do Ignite, and Ignite from Smite benefit from 250% More Dmg (not increased)

[shut walrus]

is it very rare to upgrade lp1 titans heart to lp2 in farsight turtle?

[desert tree]

As rare as dropping a natural 2lp iirc

[shut walrus]

ahh thats why 15 of them did not upgrade lol

[desert tree]

Sound about right 😄

[stone maple]

does anyone know if lastepochtools is on a break from accepting new buildguides? Usually it took only a few days to get a review, but now it's been over week with no info. I'm just curious 🙂

[desert tree]

Not that I know of

Are you in the discord ?

[slow eagle]

Damnnit is the goat

[desert tree]

Maybe he is on a bit of a break, he just released a new tool for No Rest for the Wicked

[stone maple]

ah, that makes sense :p

[candid elm]

you're right, looks like it has 5x uses? small picture from the 1.2 patch notes

[alpine pendant]

I am little confused about Swarmblade form's Swarm strike and Locust swarm it creates.
Swarm strike has scaling tags for both strength and attunement just like Swarmblade form but Locust swarm only has attunement tag
since it is subskill is that just ignored and it inherits both str/att scalings from Swarm strike?

Locust swarm's attunement scaling also includes freeze rate multiplier which is not in Swarm strike's attunement scaling, does Locust swarm still get it? (provided Swarmblade has been converted to cold)

Swarm strike skill says the locust swarm scales from added melee damage and that each locust consumed gives added melee and poison damage. Will it also get the bonuses from consumed locusts or is it just the initial hit that gets those?

this being the only melee damage over time skill (at least I didn't find others) makes it bit confusing to comprehend.

Would I just be safe assuming things work normally except everything that would normally say spell now says melee?

Edit: found character to test these, the damage over time part does inherit strength, added melee, increased melee etc. modifiers normally only thing I couldnt test was the freeze multiplier because that's very hard to test

anyone here who has tested this, or should I drop it in ask devs?

[slow eagle]

Haven’t ever done that build but you may want to ask/link this question in the primalist chat too

[alpine pendant]

actually found high level character on legacy to test almost all of this 👍
but yeah for next time I'll try to remember the class specific channels, good suggestion

[slow eagle]

W testing

[sour trout]

Are there any abilities that have pops or explosions? For example in poe or torchlight infinite you can do stuff like ice pops or chaos pops where you are hitting the enemies and getting very satisfying popping sounds when clearing packs. It can vary on the ailment also like in poe 2 there are blood explosion doing physical damage that sound different from like ice or poison explosions.

[worthy plover]

I mean, if you kill frozen stuff it makes a frozen shattering noise so I know freezing does make a different sound for their death if you are into it

[slow eagle]

I think bone curse as an explode node

No idea how it sounds

[faint cape]

I'm a little late here, but just want to note that you don't need to change language to respec mastery; you can still open the respec menu by clicking her second option (the one with the door that says something like "Leave" in your set language).

[storm wren]

What champion arena count as, a special dungeon area or anything else?

[faint cape]

Yes, locust swarm is a subskill of swarm strike, so swarm strike's attribute scaling and all modifiers to it are passed down to locust swarm... unless you convert locust swarm to scale with minion damage, then it scales with basically nothing.
The effects from consuming locusts with swarm strike don't affect the swarm strike hit at all, they only apply to the created locust swarm.
Not sure about freeze rate, it's pretty pitiful if it gets any at all, I'm not sure I've ever seen locust swarm freeze. Just to warn you, only locust swarm's physical half converts to cold, poison stays poison despite all your actual poisons being converted to frostbite lol (bug since 0.9 🥲 ).
Earthquake's aftershocks can be converted to melee DOT as well, they are a natural pairing with locust swarm to supplement single target via aftershock idols.

[alpine pendant]

yeah I definitely need to test the aftershocks next season, for now I planned the build in where I use swarmblade form to create the locust swarm and then swap to bear and go full in on melee as the locust swarm scales from all the same things as swipe except crit. So I wouldnt use damage over time modifiers anywhere.
though aftershocks converted or not would scale with same things so definitely want to try and include those, too bad that I would have to give up on the health + crit avoidance idols to use it
oh and 15 points in shaman to get EQ is gonna be hard fit since I also want boar dodge + 10 point node at the end of druid for end threshold

[desert tree]

Yes, Locust Swarm inherit everything from Swarm Strike

Ps: There is also Rive > Lacerate as Melee DoT 😄

[faint cape]

Yeah, the passives are a very tight squeeze on locust swarm, unfortunately, always feel like I have to give up something

[alpine pendant]

how are the locusts during boss fights?
normal areas I can spawn them when they cant fly to enemies and then absorb them for the 20sec locust swarm
but I have concern that they will melt against boss before I can spawn max amount, meaning I would lose chunk of my locust swarm dps.
Can they survive 3-5 seconds without dying against something like Aberoths ground degens

or do I need to sacrifice suffix somewhere for minion health etc.

[desert tree]

If you summon them by hitting your hives usually you can spawn them fast enough

[alpine pendant]

yeah that was the route I was thinking of doing

good to know

[faint cape]

Yeah, I summon a couple of hives, smack them a couple times to cap locust count, and then immediately swarm strike before they can fly off. No real issues during boss fights, as long as you are able to stand still-ish for a second

Dive also counts as a hit on your hives, so I typically use that as the first hit while clearing (I spawn the hives a lil ahead of me and dive to them)

[crystal jackal]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCswRgZiA

[crystal jackal]

<@&1161418687471956101>

[craggy pawn]

whats the differenve between woven and looming riches?

[crystal jackal]

<@&1161418687471956101>

6 min apart. At this rate we’ll just be doing this all day

[pulsar horizon]

wtf its not me

[storm blaze]

Sounds like your account has been compromised.

[pulsar horizon]

Scam is running, yes -.-

[storm blaze]

You should change your password to force out all instances of your account

[desert tree]

👀

[storm blaze]

Hey vlad

[desert tree]

👋

How are you doing ?

[storm blaze]

Good enough
How about you?

[desert tree]

Pretty nice
Got my car through MoT, got my wallet back after loosing it yesterday 💀

[storm blaze]

MoT?
Good to hear you got the wallet back, I hope nothing was taken from there?

[desert tree]

Nope, all good

MoT is the uk name for the control you have to put your car through every year

We have that in france too,

[storm blaze]

The inspection? right, right

[desert tree]

You got it too in Finland ? (probably)

[storm blaze]

Yeah
not sure if it's yearly but I get what you mean
just never heard it called MoT before

[desert tree]

Its the short for Ministry of Transport iirc

Because its mandated by the Ministry of transport

[storm blaze]

Fair

[desert tree]

In France its called Controle Technique (Technical Control)

[storm blaze]

Apparently first time after 4 years of using it, then every other year until it's 10 years old and then every year

I don't have a car though

[craggy pawn]

hi so im playing this abom build and im so stressed out right now my damage is just a little tickle while the videos showed deal 150k+damage

This is my charhttps://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owLLN7gX
This is the build i follow https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJdmVNmo

idk if im wrong somewhere or im wrong during summoning the abom process. can anybpdy figure where im wrong at? i know i have got the LP stats rolled right but 140k damage difference is too big for that

[neon compass]

Necromancer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (26) / Necromancer (87)

General:

▸ Health: 2,924, Regen: 22/s
▸ Mana: 138.43, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 261%, Regen: 81/s
▸ Attributes: 102 Str / 11 Dex / 102 Int / 11 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 55% / 99% / 74% / 84% / 79% / 78% / 115%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 184%, Threshold: 585
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (124)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 59% (4,211)
▸ Block Chance: 77%, Mitigation: 37% (1,096)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 70%

Used skills:

Summon Skeleton / Infernal Shade / Summon Bone Golem / Dread Shade / Assemble Abomination

This build has a guide:

Turbo Necro T-Rex & Abomination - Final Build | High Corruption | LE - Build Guide by Pixel Aptitude

[craggy pawn]

anybody know where im wrong at?
took me some times to farm these gears but it cant event beat my veyr ass zookeper league starter

[cobalt maple]

if i get some block chance wia passives or conversion (thinking about 2 item set for rougue, but one of them will be the primordial ring), but dont have a "block effectiveness" source, will my block effectiveness be 0? or is there a baseline block effectiveness

[desert tree]

Your character planner is empty

[craggy pawn]

sorry

fixed it

[craggy pawn]

can u see it now?

[desert tree]

Yes

Ok so first thing

Guide

You

Do you see where I am going ?

Guide

You

@craggy pawn

[crystal jackal]

there's a detailed abomination guide on maxroll with a lot of text explainign everything

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/abomination-necromancer-guide

[craggy pawn]

then its not possible to reroll to a build like this

[craggy pawn]

im completely aware about this

but i never thought its not possible this way

now im stuck with a zdps build

[desert tree]

You can always go back to your old build

[rocky rapids]

you should start with slamming your gear or at least putting it into nemesis

[candid elm]

I'm confused as to why your abomination is not doing any damage. I played an abom build briefly at the beginning of Season 3 and it was absolutely shredding everything with almost no items.

I would suggest you read a guide or watch a video on the abomination summoning process. It's a bit involved with the skill slot swapping but thankfully you only need to do it when you first log in or if you die.

[craggy pawn]

maybe i should tag along on some written guide

[craggy pawn]

what happens when i re-cast abomination (misclicked) on an echo but doesnt consomue anymore minion, just teleport it?

[candid elm]

Hmm. I guess if you notice that it's doing very little damage, you could redo the summoning process. Kind of sounds like it was resummoned without absorbing a bunch of minions

[craggy pawn]

noted

[craggy pawn]

which par of stolen lance do i find this mob?

[toxic echo]

thats the boss of the timeline

you have to do the boss quest at the top

[craggy pawn]

ahhh i see ok ty

[craggy pawn]

it says 120 corruption, means it cant be above or below?

[shut walrus]

it can only be 120 corruption or above

you have to reset the timeline by killing the shade of orobyss to gain corruption 🙂

[toxic echo]

minimum 120 corr

[craggy pawn]

i c ty

i feel like starting over with a new character, since i fked over my necromancer

what would be other minion option that r easy to prgoress that r not a necromancer class?

[toxic echo]

beastmaster is a little slow to start dmg wise but EQ bear is one of the best builds in the game. but BM also has plenty of other options that are very viable.

forgeguard has forged weapons, and there are a couple variants that can be pretty good.

falconer class is and has been one of the best for multiple seasons now and pretty much anything works cuz its 'falcon'

[desert tree]

I mean, when you have 3 different layers of More Dmg combine in 1 skill ... It's spicy

[craggy pawn]

i was thinking about starting mage as a spell blade with shatter strike

lookin good

[fallen parcel]

Depends what you want you start with wolves raptor then go frogs which scales very good and strong and its very good mapping wise, you can go bear but mapping its trash compared to frogs but its biggest damage dealer in bossing

[crystal jackal]

you can't f'up a build in LE, it's super easy to respec passives and skills

go to end of time, respec everything to this build: https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/skeletal-roid-mage-necromancer-guide

put minion dmg, health for you and resistances on all gear with just picking up random stuff before you respec and craft on them.
any empty slots put int.

and put minion spell and bow
and minion spell and melee on a 1 hand axe.

reset a timelime to 100c and go back to farming

[craggy pawn]

okay i will try

i spend 8+ hours trying to figure out a way to fix that abom build and honestlu it got me fkd up in the head trying to make a sense of it

[shut walrus]

at what corruption are you guaranteed to geta needles drop after killing the harbinger?

[toxic echo]

there is no guarantee

[shut walrus]

because when i was doing 5k corruption on my other character i always got one

[shut walrus]

i just got 4 in a row. must be a bug or something because i got 100% of the time on my other character

[crystal jackal]

let me know how it goes, off to bed now

make sure you take this before you run out of points, just noticed that they take is super late in the build

go for death knight , underlings and archmage nodes first

[deft dune]

are the paid paradox classes still going to be a thing or did they backtrack on that?

and if they didn't backtrack, are the paid classes going to release seasonally and then be available permanently?

sticking to their promise to have no pay to win... if the paradox classes are going to be DLC, what is the plan for paradox classes if they're released in a wildly overpowered state?

[desert tree]

No backtrack

No info how release schedule

If they are op, they'll nerf them

[deft dune]

will they nerf them before they become the best way to make money and wreck the in-game economy?

they've been very, very hesitant to nerf classes/builds within the same season.

[toxic echo]

not sure how anyone can tell the future...so know one really knows 'what if x happens?'

if its bugged op, they generally fix, if its not bugged op (like bear this season and falcon since existence) well...bear and falcon exist so its gonna be pretty hard to be more op than them

[slow eagle]

🔮

I sense many balance updates in your future

[toxic echo]

nah, just 1 😛

[night valley]

Hey is The a "PoB"-like tool that will let me Import my characters and actually give me DPS info?

[slow eagle]

last epoch tools... tho that doesn't have dps calcs

someone is/was working on a POB fork for LE but no idea how thats going

[night valley]

and can I share said builds from the tool?

[slow eagle]

last epoch tools, yes

the POB fork, no idea

Le tools also will try to generate a loot filter for your build too

[night valley]

yeah thats what I mean't thank you.

[slow eagle]

imo every LE player should use LE tools, the database alone is sick

if your gonna do Circle of Fortune, bookmark the bestiary on tunk lab

[night valley]

I mostly just wanted to be able to share stuff to get assistance with what my weakest pieces of gear are

[slow eagle]

yee, use the import button in Le tools build planner then get a link with the share button (if you make a free account you can save your build planners too) then just pop the link into the appropriate class chat and ask for advice

[night valley]

ok cool thank you😇

[desert tree]

With the way you are leading your question I think you already have your opinion, so I don't see the point of trying to have a good faith discussion

[crystal jackal]

Out of curiosity, how should he have worded the question?

[icy drift]

Honestly the essence of the question is subjective. It simply hinges on your good faith in ehg (which for a lot of people is wearing thin, which while understandable is based on nothing that's actually happened, but pure speculation); that they wouldn't make the class op on purpose.

[crystal jackal]

It’s based on a precedent that was set with a paid class in D3 that made the game pay2win

[icy drift]

That's a pretty unfair precedent to use imo. It's an entirely different company, so again it purely hinges on your good faith in ehg that they wouldn't do the same.

[crystal jackal]

They introduced necro as a paid class and then for the longest time by far the best way to farm paragon was 3 necros and 1 barb.
And paragon is way more powerful than anything else you can’t get.

Can get*

[crystal jackal]

It’s not a Fair or unfair precedent. It’s a precedent that’s happened in the largest franchise in the genre. It’s not strange that ppl will come here and ask if EHG has said anything about the subject when it comes to their game.

[icy drift]

My opinion is that I think there's a pretty good chance the paradox class will be fairly strong, there's a chance they'll even be op. But not intentionally so. Balancing arpg's is hard and it's easy to let something crazy strong slip through the cracks like we've seen many times for the normal masteries. So while I doubt they'd make it the strongest/most op class on purpose I do think they'll want to make it strong which carries the risk of it being op. If it is I still have faith that they'd nerf it either mid season if it's caused by a bug or the season after if it's not.

[icy drift]

Yes you can ask if they'd do the same. But saying their odds of doing the same is higher because someone else did it isn't a fair assessment

[crystal jackal]

No one said the odds are higher. He asked what EHGs stance was on the subject.

[icy drift]

And honestly in last epochs current state you couldn't really even make an "op" class, we already have things that stroll through all content in the game

[icy drift]

They've said they have no plans on making it op on purpose

[desert tree]

My english isnt good enough to give you an answer
Maybe I read their intent wrong, but they seem pretty convinced EHG will make the paradox class op on purpose to sell more
I dont think its in EHG's playbook

[crystal jackal]

He was just stating observational facts. There’s no conviction in his question.

[crystal jackal]

Haven’t played MG since first week och 1.0. So don’t know how it works. But you’re probably correct.
This would also have been a good answer to his question

[icy drift]

The only possible advantage something could have over current builds is if it can move even faster than something like falconer which would be crazy fast lol

Since we already have fast builds that basically demolish everything including Uber Abby

[crystal jackal]

Yeah. I’ve seen tareks 12 hours to uber run.

[icy drift]

I guess if its giga tanky that'd be another advantage but that's more Convenience than anything since you already rarely die on rogue because of silver shrouds

I think you get my point though, there's no way for the paradox class to be the only way you can do something since we already have plenty of builds that do everything with ease. Which to be fair should get nerfed, so we'll see. Maybe by the time it releases we won't have anything bonkers

[crystal jackal]

Im in CoF HC SSF or SCF. Non of this affects me.
I was just curious why his question was not worth answering.
I’m sure he would have been happy with all of the answers you just gave me.

[worthy plover]

The weaver imprint system is kind of frustrating me trying to craft all my gear still. I gather that people keep telling me to spam Nemesis until you get lucky or prophecies until you get lucky and drop tiers 77 in anything or whatever, and then use 771s to get that to start dropping stuff and keep recrafting it until you get the affixes you want. But it FEELS to me like the imprint system would be more intuitive and more useful for progression if it actually let me craft low tier items with the affixes I want, and then gave me increased chances at those affixes dropping at higher tiers or something. I keep hearing that the tier is more important than the affix at first, but I feel like that is backwards and making the entire system significantly less fun or targeted to me.

I can't for the life of me see any reason I would not just go trading next time around and just buy items because all this crafting is not enjoyable to me when it is so rng and unintuitively confusing

I get that it is an ARPG and RNG is part of the territory, but progression feels completely random and not enjoyable. I also gather progression isn't really a thing in ARPGs as its usually a copy and paste job with lowest common denominators or low hanging fruit, play one you don't have to like, in order to farm gear for one you like sort of stuff. But as someone that likes to change my build as I go or experiment, it feels frustrating at times. I also feel like I am changing my build more often than not, because the exalted loot I need just isn't dropping at all no matter how hard I target farm these methods.

I also don't understand why the "armour and reduced bonus damage from critical strikes" has a lower percent than "critical strike avoidance and added dodge rating", I feel like these should be equal for some reason it is just irritating me when theory crafting a lot.

[craggy pawn]

will do, im assembling it now just got home from work

thanks alot for the help and encouragement people

anybody know where i can visit the beast npc? outside the rift encounter

[worthy plover]

I have only ever seen him inside the rift encounter

[desert tree]

Probably because it's 2 constant defenses vs 2 conditionnals

[worthy plover]

yeah but the constant defences are constantly being hit and the conditionals only hit sometimes. So there is also that. And also, you need a 7 an 5 for avoidance, you need a 7 5 and a 1... for reduced to max it which feels stupid

avoidance feels better in every way from using it even on my armour build which is also why it is sort of annoying

[crystal jackal]

Just make sure you pick those points first in the skeletal mage tree I mentions above.

They assumed you have skill lvl 24 when you picked nodes. But you’ll probably only going to have 10 after initial respec

[crystal jackal]

When you have time, you can also read the abomination guide on maxroll about the summoning in case you want to switch back to that build later.

[craggy pawn]

OMG DUDE

THANKYOU FOR SAVING MY LIFE

THIS THING SLAPS

fk no im not switching to that build ill just max this one out

i swear u r a life saver

i even still use the same gear from abom

now im gearing up its gonna be nuts

[crystal jackal]

It’s not the best build. But it’s easy to get going and pretty fun.

[craggy pawn]

u r the sh1it bro

[worthy plover]

do celestial and mercantile work in imprint slots or are these considered not able to drop from normal mobs

[storm blaze]

They don't drop from normal mobs
it'll try to give something "similar"

[fallen parcel]

Reduced damage from crits is a better stat than avoidance any day of the week for a simple reason if your avoidance isn't 100 then you are screwed 99 avoidance means you are getting crit and you die no matter what,meanwhile 70 reduced is more than enough most of the time to get by does not need to be 100 at all,most Sentinel can run helmet and get 70 to 85 reduced crits and call it a day

[worthy plover]

That use doesn't make it better any day of the week by a longshot. If I was to use my example it would be the entire opposite. I am taking about the stats in general, and also, you are still taking 15% extra damage from crits in your example. That is really terrible logic. Dodge is generally more gambly yes I understand that but that doesn't really change anything. Also if you want to look at it that armour is better than dodge because it is constant, it is also significantly easier to get armour as it is quite literally on every piece of equipment you wear already, and you get more of it on the +armour stat than you do dodge, and armour also only reduces damage up to a certain amount so it is not 100% avoiding the damage. I still think it is odd they choose to then by your logic, make us want to take some extra damage from crits instead of having 100% of it, considering, the bigger the hit, the bigger the problem is going to be. Whereas with dodge you could dodge multiple hits in a row, and never get hit once, meaning if you are good at manually dodging combined with your dodge chance, you can actually just face dodge some things and hope for the best and go through entire fights without taking any real hits at all.

So I would have to massively disagree that reduced damage from crits is a better stat than avoidance

[fallen parcel]

Dodge is a lot more broken than armor ,specially guarantee dodge ,you should try to incorporate some armor for Dr but rogue can and will be tankier if they want than other classes,reduced crit will never need to be 100% needed to be maxed i would know played enough of the game meanwhile 99 avoidance its crap so yeah reduced its way better

[worthy plover]

So you are saying no hit in this game can ever kill anyone from its damage then? 15% damage reduction means nothing is what you just said and isn't necessary, compared to not taking 15% increased damage?

[fallen parcel]

I have no reduced and no crit avoidance and I still can tank stuff other people can't

[fallen parcel]

What classes have you tried so far

[worthy plover]

I am sure there are examples of how anything can be done in many situations, but I am talking about two general affixes on a fundamental level

[fallen parcel]

Again if I am playing rogue I dont mind getting crit avoidance cause I also get dodge

As a Sentinel I dont want that stat at all I rather have 80 reduced and call it a day and dont need to invest into useless stat for me

Since beginning of times both stats are good but if a person has to choose between both reduced its straight up better value cause I dont have to be forced to max it. In 1.0 we didn't have 3t7 gear hell even 2 t7 was rare so yeah reduced did a better job any day of the week

Whenever I die is not because I am getting crit its because base damage of the mob abilities its way to high like the necrotic golem or fire enemies that can one shot and such ,i had people not be able to kill the guardians and I just go and kill them no matter what corr they are with no crit avoidance

[crystal jackal]

I play in HC avoidance is useless unless you have 100%. Crit damage reduction is useful no matter how much you have.

[worthy plover]

My original point "you need a 7 an 5 for avoidance, you need a 7 5 and a 1... for reduced to max it"

Your arguement, just take 15% increased damage from crits.

Other arguement, armour is constant, just soak more hits.

My argument, even this tiny amount of flat dodge with one item swap can be easily turned into 40% chance to dodge all hits, whereas I wanted the armour, as I am an armour build, which would seem logical, but the dodge rating and avoidance is cheaper affix wise, and gives me less bonus with armour.

I do not have 3t7 gear or even 2t7 gear yet as I am playing the season again only for the last month or two from scratch so that does not apply to me.

You just reiterated your arguement again that taking 15% increased damage from crits over 0% for some base armour is ok, when the base armours value itself is diminished by the fact you will be soaking more bigger hits so you are going to need it really aren't you. It is actually less efficient not maxing it in that respect.

I am not talking about HC as again, that would be a more specific example I am talking about the base game and simply that, the difference of % between the two affixes doesn't seem justified.

My arguement was never really, whether one is outright better than the other, but one is cheaper is my point and nothing more and that is weird.

I get that you just want me to take 15% increased damage from crits and accept it, but I regularly die to hits I cannot see due to animations and graphics so I will have to say, no thank you, to that suggestion.

You are also both arguing avoidance is useless with below 100% but it is EASY To get 100%. So that is a really really really dumb argument to make as well. Nobody is running 99%. It has always been one of the easiest stats to 100%.

So again, I think they should normalise these two affixes percentages so one isn't more irritating to 100% as it doesn't really make much sense given the flat armour itself is less meaningful when you are taking crit damage as well

[crystal jackal]

It’s not a question of how easy it is to get. It’s a question of what you need to give up for one vs the other.

[fallen parcel]

If you think you are dying to crits more often than mobs straight up irregular damage you are the one with the dumb argument bud

[worthy plover]

so mathematically 15% increased damage means nothing, so 15% damage reduction means nothing is what you are saying yeah?

[fallen parcel]

When a guide points that you need crit avoidance blessing and t5 avoidance on gear ,if my blessings aint maxed i am screwed,you should wonder why there is no reduced damage from crits blessings

[fallen parcel]

I have none on my lich and I cruise through mobs

[neat depot]

Same:)

[worthy plover]

That is great I do not care about your lich

[fallen parcel]

What kills me aint crits ,its the bs scaling of damage of certain mobs

[fallen parcel]

I rather you learn about thr game a bit more though

[crystal jackal]

It’s not the same. One affect 100% of ALL dmg you take. One affects small % of a only hit dmg you take.

[worthy plover]

I think you are shallow minded in your thinking to how everyone plays the game and I am going to give up arguing with complete idiots

[fallen parcel]

Haha

Lmao bud needs to learn more about the game

[neat depot]

AFK brother just lost it 😄 bravo

[worthy plover]

You are wrong on a fundamental level but use your exact examples of how to work around it sure go ahead

[fallen parcel]

Reduced crits has always been a superior stat lmao nothing wrong with that both are great ,

[worthy plover]

I didn't lose it, I gave up

I was complaing that, I need 3 affixes to 100% reduced, and 2 to 100% avoidance in order to take 0% increased damage from crits.

You are arguing reduced only costs 1 as taking more damage from hits is fine.

[fallen parcel]

Try to play a class that doesn't rely on crit avoidance then tell me if you needed to max the stat

[worthy plover]

I have a passive that reduces all damage by 8% from shocked targets, I guess that isn't really neccesary either as damage is not a factor in this game at all

no point reducing any damage it isn't required

ever

[fallen parcel]

That's the thing you don't hell with Sentinel you need 1 or in some cases one is needed ,like necro beastmaster only need 1 affix not 2 so I can get better stats like health

[worthy plover]

because your lich can soak hits or something with none, nobody ever needs damage reduction ever

in some cases

[alpine pendant]

I feel like this would be perfect to ask in the devs chat since Mike might be able to give you the actual design perspective on this choice.

[crystal jackal]

You’re comparing apples and oranges.
That affect ALL dmg you can take. The other only lowers the max crit hit dmg you take. Which in itself is a low 5%.

[worthy plover]

Just stop wanting the affixes, I get the advice, just take more damage, sure, I will just keep using avoidance instead then. I am sorry I even mentioned it. People seem to give bad advice in here regularly

[alpine pendant]

it might even be something as minor as "because 2H can get the reduced damage as affix so we lowered the amount other gear gets" etc.

[crystal jackal]

1 stat alone of crit dmg reduction is useful. 1 alone crit avoidance isn’t.
That’s why avoid is ”cheaper”

[alpine pendant]

and that might be it, without asking we will never know for sure if that was the actual intent

[crystal jackal]

Dude. I play HC.
It’s pointless to run with 1 cut avoid affix.
But you’re still getting a benefit from 1 crit dmg reducing affix’s that’s why it’s more expensive.

Crit avoid*

[fallen parcel]

You are wasting your time the guy is too gone cant understand simple logic

[crystal jackal]

That’s it. It’s like this in every game that has these types of reductions.

[fallen parcel]

Beastmaster gets what 30% reduced crits same as necro right 1 t7 affix reduced and i am done,while what i would need to invest 2 affixes into crit avoidance yeah no thanks

[candid elm]

For Beastmaster, yes, if you put 10 points into Ancient Might. If you put just 5 to unlock the bonus it would be 15%

For Necromancer, you need 5 points in Towering Death to unlock bonus for the 30%

[crystal jackal]

@worthy plover @alpine pendant
it's about the journey and choices.

imagine you're on a new char and want to start mitigating crits dmg. putting on 1 crit avoid affix doesn't do anything for you.
but putt on 1 crit dmg reduction affix and you become tankier.
this is why it's more "expensive".

this is your entrance into mitigating crits, so then you keep going with a second crit dmg reduction as next step.

then you have a choice, either go for a third to become crit immune, or go for the more powerful per slot crit avoid but then you need to fix both of them at the same time.
so there's a trade off. take the easier rout and get 1 more at the cost of 3 affixes
or take the more difficult rout and change out 2 pieces at the same time and gain 1 free affix.

you also have a choice later at endgame depending on your tankyness.
if you're trying to survive e.g. a uber slam that does 4k hit and 8k crit, if you can only survive 4k, you need to get immune, so then crit avoid is better
but lets say you can survive a 5k crit, or 6k, or 7k? then you can forgo the avoid and only get crit reduction dmg on 1 piece and free up 1 affix.

it's made this way to give you choices from a new char, to an endgame/optimized one.

granted in SC, ppl don't usually bother with all these steps. But in HC, it matters.

[alpine pendant]

only complain about what you said is the "1 crit avoid affix doesn't do anything for you."
it still does something, it will still prevent 10% of crits, some of those can be crits that would kill a guy with non-maxed crit reduction while leaving you alive because you avoided 100% of the extra damage.

but yeah apart from that 1 hyperbole statement I do agree with you

[crystal jackal]

Mathematically you’re right. But you can’t risk that in HC.
And in SC, ppl just do what ever.

[craggy pawn]

so i tried a new variation of skele pop

this one is even better like giga and better flow too (especially this part)

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/

super good @_@

[crystal jackal]

the link is empty

[craggy pawn]

oops

https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbUMzZ2ZNQlNnY01zTE9yLTBuaUthV0h1djNKQXxBQ3Jtc0tsUEVNVUZuVTNjeUl0ZU9qMC05V1YxV2gyRUlaT0x3dk1tTmVrbWpweTBQZm5ZZ25nN0ZTeldTVURGVFJTaGZGc0JVSVl3N09HWUZTb2xtMFpRSFVTeHNuWE1XQ1hhX204NXdkcWtEcm4zc01TNUJfMA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fmaxroll.gg%2Flast-epoch%2Fplanner%2Fqxvx80ql%234&v=-68BoP5IxQc

this is very good

this due play skele pop every season xD'

[crystal jackal]

haven't tried the skelly pop version, but used to play skelly mage-archmage-cryomancer low life necro every season.
was my favorite build.

it was never super strong but keept getting nerfed every patch due to them trying to nerf other stuff.
so just gave up this season

[craggy pawn]

what kinda build is that?

[drowsy olive]

Hi, new to this game, is there any season archivements or something like that like on poe or what are the seasons about?

[crystal jackal]

you were runnign around with 1 minion, a cryomancer from the skelly mage tree that was shooting 3 ice shards across the screen.
and you buffed him up with infernal and dread shade

[crystal jackal]

not that I know of

and then you buit it with low life ward for ehp and sustain

[icy drift]

Not currently no. But it is something they want to add eventually

[crystal jackal]

https://youtu.be/EFSwZhcwENY?t=469
here's an old video of the build

[cobalt maple]

has anyone been able to force/mod the game to use multiple threads/cores ?

[storm blaze]

Well we can't talk about modding the game here

[crystal jackal]

dreadful had a youtube video about getting it to use all availabe cores
-useallavailablecores

that's not modding, that's a steam thing

[cobalt maple]

thank god somebody did

[crystal jackal]

I haven't tested it if it works...I just put it there and pray for the best

[craggy pawn]

idk why is this dude using this on a skele pop build

stat stick? kidna too much aint it

[faint cape]

It's a belt that can be used solely for the int roll lol

[craggy pawn]

oh

thats all xD

ok i see

whats the best echo to put on loomed riches? and the other similar one

im currently going towards LP-ed unique and exalted

[crystal jackal]

maybe mana recovery maybe?

[craggy pawn]

hmmm

[cobalt maple]

it would be magic... no it don work

[crystal jackal]

not sure how to force a big usage in CPU, but something is happening on all cores when I load into an echo

it's those spikes

dont have time now to try it without the steam command.

[cobalt maple]

its literally only 4 are spiking -_-

[crystal jackal]

it's not, all move up

easier to see it live than on the pic

just just dont all go equally high

I don't know how to steam/unity engine integration works, or which version of unity EHG are using

maybe someone here knows something that's using a lot of CPU power that I can try

[craggy pawn]

why cant i slam my stuff

it says return to the ternitity cache in divine era

[storm blaze]

Press D

[crystal jackal]

You need to put the item inside in the divide era. And take it out in the ruined era inside the dungeon

The idea is that the items is cooking inside the cooker for millennia

[sudden otter]

Why is Rampant Coast beast damage so broken? I can facetank T4 Juulra but I die to every attack of a C300 beast. Can it be finally fixed already??

[craggy pawn]

can i get miinor weaver idol from prophecies?

ah i see

noted

[crystal jackal]

You can. But the prophecy has to say that exactly.
I do mono/no mono/small idol lences for my build to print a bunch of small weaver idols.

You can do that with minor. But the prophecy has to say minor weaver

[craggy pawn]

wt

where is my item

i lsot it

i cached it

do i have to click the cache again?

do i lsot it if i didnt take it before?

[faint cape]

You need to swap time to take it out
If you left the area without grabbing it, it will still be there when you run the dungeon again

[craggy pawn]

omg its there ty

almost lost my shi

[craggy pawn]

how do people slam cast speed on their julra glove? i didnt see its craftable on gloves

is it nemesis hit?

[slow eagle]

it can show up on gloves

gloves specific scaling for it

make sure your not trying to apply one of the primalist specific cast speed affixes as those only go on helmet and/or body armor

[obtuse olive]

Hello there
How can I obtain exalted sword with affixes like on screenshot?
Just farming?

[toxic echo]

i mean yeah everything in the game is farming.

you need to find a 3lp spine (which is prolly the hard part in this) and a 2h sword with double exalted affix. this isnt something you are likely to farm quickly

[carmine atlas]

Dumb question, will I be able to access my equipment cosmetics in offline mode?

[desert tree]

Yes, if you connect to online once (probably required to buy cosmetics)

[carmine atlas]

Thanks! I already have two supporter packs but trying to play on my deck as I’m mostly on the move now.

Cause I couldn’t access them offline, probably need an internet connection to activate them or equip them right?

[toxic echo]

Yea. Connect online once

[carmine atlas]

Thank you!

[desert tree]

Yup

[deft dune]

it's not a "leading" question at all. they have said they are opting to not gate content behind a paywall, opting instead to introduce classes. that's atypical, so it raises completely valid questions, such as "how will you ensure that something that's paid for isn't also just better?"

if the paid classes are balanced with everything else and you're just paying for something optional and different, that's fine. however, this game is competitive and there is a person-to-person economy to keep in mind, so the question as to whether people who opt to not pay will be negatively impacted by someone who opts to pay.

that's not leading, it's a question with context.

a leading question would be me asking something like "how much better will the paradox classes be than the existing classes?", because that question presumes that they will be better.

[desert tree]

Mb then

I guess the constant negativity around the game makes me see bad intentions behind every question

[honest birch]

You know if there's a version of the cooking recipe in metric?