💬┃general

[wet gyro]

League of legends

[tender marsh]

Sorry WoW's player count went from 13.3m to 9.2m from WoTLK to Cataclysm. DEAD GAME!!!

[wet mauve]

league of legends success pays for the content from them that I actually enjoy.

[hearty crystal]

Its still sucesfull

[wet gyro]

Horrendous, time to shut down blizzard

[hearty crystal]

That why they keep releasing them. Dosent mean they are good

[wet mauve]

that's why we differentiate between success and good.

[upper current]

blizz sold to other companies = epic fail

[prisma folio]

League of Legends isn't a game. It was actually developed by the CIA as a form of torture.

[signal thunder]

We also differentiate between live service games and standalone releases

[wet mauve]

studio ghibli makes good films.
They do not make successful films.

[quartz spoke]

hero siege releases seasons and you listed it

[wet gyro]

I enjoy the game, and that we get free games, movies, shows, books and music completely justifies that one skin every year is 300 bucks

[quartz spoke]

incorrect

[tender marsh]

yet they are using neither of these. They are using some made up fantasy guage for "success" in their own head lawl

[prisma folio]

No they didn't

[coarse turtle]

my dude, you can keep makign yourself look silly if you like, but i don tthin kits acieving what you hope it is

[quartz spoke]

#💬┃general message

[prisma folio]

Cool message but no they didn't

[quartz spoke]

they didn't mention hero siege? sure

[upper current]

SKYRIM!!

[coarse turtle]

my dude you tried to say grim dawn has seasons lmao

[wet gyro]

Bro is fighting demons by now

[prisma folio]

Correct, glad you agree on that one

[quartz spoke]

where

[wet mauve]

at the end of the day jiji is gonna consider himself right because we all got tired of arguing against bs.

[upper current]

or air

[prisma folio]

Right there

[wet gyro]

Poe player mad that other arpgs have players. Nothing new

[quartz spoke]

y'all started arguing that ARPG's that have nothing to do with LE are succesful with their concepts while LE is doing way different concept

[wet mauve]

you done?

[quartz spoke]

no?

[wet gyro]

Yawn

[wet mauve]

see? proving my point.

[prisma folio]

They actually didn't mention other arpgs

[quartz spoke]

what point

[round sparrow]

i was tagged here how do I find it

[quartz spoke]

ah my bad my bad

[round sparrow]

i know its nothing but literally never know how to find a tag

[quartz spoke]

click the inbox top right

[wet mauve]

💀 my man. The one I just made.

[tender marsh]

The laws of fantasy will always contradict the laws of reality. We do not fight peoples delusions nor do we accept them. We just put them in a nice white room. That is heavily padded

[quartz spoke]

link the message please

[round sparrow]

oh you mean pinned

[wet gyro]

This guy is so funny

[signal thunder]

3 Does? The OG didn't from memory

[quartz spoke]

there is only one hero siege afaik?

[round sparrow]

thanks!

[signal thunder]

There is one and there is three, it's complicated

[wet gyro]

Hes never played arpgs in his life

[prisma folio]

No there's two

[wet mauve]

iirc, herosiege didn't originally have seasons.
It also use to be a completley different genre of game. It got a lot of hate by switching to a pure arpg.

[signal thunder]

It's a zombie game. But I'm referring to the original launch, back in 2014, not whatever it is now (it might be great, I don't know. I just haven't played it recently)

[prisma folio]

Yeah so please stop claiming that

[quartz spoke]

first hero siege season released like 3 years after launch iirc

[wet gyro]

We need a diablo like game thats set in the future

[turbid silo]

👀

[wet mauve]

Exactly.

[quartz spoke]

for sure for sure

[coarse turtle]

....too funny

[turbid silo]

Let's be sure we're keeping it civil if we're having debates. I haven't seen anything wrong, but just want to be sure we're all having a healthy conversation and not taking digs at people's thoughts.

Because that's what we're all about here 🙂

[prisma folio]

Hero siege doesn't have seasons

[wet gyro]

Does it even matter if they have seasons or not?

[quartz spoke]

ah my bad buddy, I'll try to learn better

[quartz spoke]

yes, cause if they don't why are we even discussing them when we are discussing LE

[wet mauve]

🐴 It does! Like what if it's winter in herosiege.

[turbid silo]

Seasons exist for live service ARPGs or online ones

Seasons being Season 1, Season 2, etc.

not nature seasons 😄

[signal thunder]

I've been trying to explain that not all ARPG's are Live Service

[turbid silo]

Yep, that's definitely true!@

[sick bison]

There are a lot of arpg with seasons, not only poe diablo LE

[quartz spoke]

why are we discussing about those ARPG's when they do not relate to the original discussion?

[tender marsh]

People don't like "robo future" themes all to much. People like medieval fantasy way more. and companies will follow the smell of money and what the consumer wants

[prisma folio]

Earlier you said we weren't discussing other arpgs though

[astral ravine]

Yeah, but they were named this way literally because they came... every 3 months... like seasons :p

[quartz spoke]

I am not, idk what you are talking about atm

[prisma folio]

So I'm not sure what you're referring to

[sick bison]

Players just jump between games, also i came here because of the pingm 🤷‍♂️

Got jebaited

[wet mauve]

First came the ping.
And we followed.
Then we fought and slithered away.

[coarse turtle]

you were trying to argue grim dawn isnt succesful my guy

[signal thunder]

Well, they're examples of successful ARPG's that have used paid content post launch to fund further development of the games. I thought this was relevant to the discussion of an ARPG using paid content post launch to further fund development of the game.

[quartz spoke]

no I was arguing that paid classes are a bad concept for games without playerbase and/or marketing money

[signal thunder]

I feel pretty justified in thinking that they are relevant examples, on the basis that they're extremely relevant examples

[sick bison]

Even grim yawn has seasonal mod

[wet gyro]

First we talked about if LE is successful or not
And we told you that theres different ways to be successful. For example high player numbers can be successful, or earning a bunch of money, making a huge impact on society, being inspirational for future games

[turbid silo]

Is that a Haiku?!

[coarse turtle]

you can just admit you're wrong about things you were mistaken on and not move goal posts, thats more like, conductive

[quartz spoke]

how are they relevant if they do not do the same concept as LE?

[turbid silo]

🙂

[quartz spoke]

no, first we talked about paid classes and if they are a good idea or not(*in games like LE)

[wet valley]

Who ping me

[signal thunder]

Very easily, it turns out. Because they just are relevant examples. An opt-in seasonal reset on an ingame economy isn't actually relevant to the discussion?

[prisma folio]

Yeah idk either, that's why I'm asking you

[willow sentinel]

Check pinned message

[turbid silo]

It's valid to compare any ARPGs to one another. Some do something well, others do this well, but they don't all do everything well

[wet valley]

Ohhh

[turbid silo]

That's just my thought

[wet valley]

🫡

[quartz spoke]

a game that gets content in seasons vs a game that gets content every X years are very different concepts and they work very differently, especially when one of them is a live service game with online features

[turbid silo]

Very true!

[wet gyro]

Thats already a stupid argument tbh
Cuz we dont know if its a good idea or not, nobody can know for sure
Obviously id also love if the classes were free, and im upset that we were told we get free gameplay updates
But honestly, id rather pay a few bucks more to be able to keep playing and supporting LE devs than having probably the best diablo alternative (in my eyes) shut down

[signal thunder]

We know for sure damnit, it's been done plenty of times

[turbid silo]

Let's not call other arguments "stupid" please. They're just thoughts, no one is arguing.

[quartz spoke]

show me one succesful ARPG that has seasons and paid classes that is not diablo

[lament slate]

for reals i thought this was a debate not an arguement o.o

[wet valley]

Show me one successful arpg except the most successful arpg series in the world

[wet mauve]

🧙‍♂️ debates are for nerds.
Real arpg players can't even read.

[coarse turtle]

argument is used intercahngabely with debate, discission etc... depending on culture/language etc..., gettign into semantics on that and not just, having good faith, is kinda wierd. They obviously meant a debate/discussion

[lucid sphinx]

Torchlite infinite is absolutely successful

[turbid silo]

Agreed

[quartz spoke]

only reason diablo 4 is succesful is cause of the playerbase the game series already has and blizzards marketing money, LE has neither.

[turbid silo]

Arguments are combative, debates are constructive.

[coarse turtle]

way to ignore my point

[turbid silo]

Regardless, calling either stupid is not what we're about here.

[quartz spoke]

if people think what I said is stupid they are free to think so imo

[turbid silo]

Sure, they can think that, but no need to express it publicly

[lament slate]

i' ma philosoph major, debate means debate and isn't another word or form of argument. :/ for me a debate is an open line of communication with multiple points of views where we can learn and evolve from one another...however if a statement is made that is said to be true but is in fact false, it's ok to correct said statement in a neutral fashion. the aim is to never attack the other individuals involved.

[wet valley]

Oh no we're debating debates now

[coarse turtle]

way to ignore my point about languages and cultures, but go off

[lament slate]

🙂

[turbid silo]

I'd prefer we keep it positive and lighthearted 🙂

[signal thunder]

Most ARPG's just haven't been seasonal, or weren't successful enough to become seasonal.

Again, I don't see how whether an ARPG being seasonal or not matters, but I also think it's ridiculous to exclude the most successful ARPG series in history because it's inconvenient to your point.

I have showed you plenty of ARPG's that have including paid post-launch content. The onus is on you to argue that the seasonal element to LE/Diablo is relevant to the discussion as a whole, not just to say it is and stonewall anyone who says otherwise.

[quartz spoke]

we can include diablo if you want, but then LE is even worse position in this discussion. like I said, LE does not have the marketing money or playerbase to have good numbers with paid classes.

[turbid silo]

Remember the old days? Base game gets released, some period of time later an expansion gets released, and then it repeated until the sequel came out

Way back in the day heh

[coarse turtle]

hey we still got grim dawn

[coarse knot]

did someone do an @ everyone?

[signal thunder]

You even claimed that the Spiritborn launch patch for D4 scared players away, when literally all data we have available shows that it's the biggest spike in DIablo 4's playerbase recently, and there's been some great D4 seasons recently to compete

[turbid silo]

See pinned message @coarse knot

[coarse knot]

this was the day

[lament slate]

i miss these days but i also don't miss those days cuz as a kid waiting 5-10 years for an expansion can feel like forever 🤣

[bronze geode]

📍

[turbid silo]

Agreed I miss those days

[quartz spoke]

we have two popular games that work the same way as LE; PoE1/2 and Diablo. One of them grinded from the beginning as a F2P game with all content accessible to everyone and one popularized the genre. Which do you think is the better path for LE?

[turbid silo]

Haha, for sure

[astral ravine]

The 'simply releases' style of game is still available, and they're often highly successful.
Silksong
Schedule 1
Stardew Valley
And so on.

Those days aren't gone, it's just not AAA which produces them nowadays.

[coarse knot]

I miss when you didn't have to pay to access things like classes in RPG games

[coarse turtle]

i mean, i think its still a perfectly viable way to do it? and i think at least a few of us would have preferred le do that withotu the seasonal approach overall. Theres reasons grim dawn has very little neagativity thrown towards it

[turbid silo]

For sure, they exist 100%

[coarse knot]

Hytale too. I hear that's popped off

[astral ravine]

Yeah, sadly nowadays because of the sheer quantity of games stuff easily gets buried.

[signal thunder]

Ideally? POE path.
In terms of what EHG staff have said via post-launch profitability? either Diablo path or a new game entirely (which might not be viable)

[turbid silo]

I just bought Hytale

So fun

[viral jetty]

Im kinda stupid excited for the new GD expan lol

[coarse turtle]

The seasonal constant content, constant income sources approach is just from a growth centric approach, not every game has to be about expanding a studio until it explodes or becomes the king of the genre

[tender marsh]

Me playing kingdom hearts 2 in 2005 and having to wait until 2019 for kingdom hearts 3 just too finish a story started in 2002's kingdom hearts 1.

[lament slate]

this year is kinda stacked for anime's and games low key lol

[quartz spoke]

but they never went the PoE route, they went diablo route from the very beginning

[turbid silo]

I know nothing about anime except Miyamoto 😄

err

Miyazaki

[wet gyro]

Sadly nowadays most companies aim for most money generated
Which, i cant even be fully mad at the companies ngl

[lament slate]

i actually could never get into KH games 🙁 jsut didn't gel with me 😭

[quartz spoke]

most money generated in a quarter for shareholders*

[coarse turtle]

for sure

[wet gyro]

Literally my point

[hearty crystal]

I wonder if theyl still honor that mvp+ gets the game for free

[tender marsh]

yeah it's certainly a "mix" that needs to hit you from the start or you just won't like it. Fun games tho

[coarse turtle]

in those situations you have to pitch a thing that gets funded so your devs get paid for making it, so yes

[turbid silo]

I dunno, I just paid for it cause I want to support them

[wet gyro]

Add AI to everything
Shareholders love that apparently

[turbid silo]

🥶

[coarse turtle]

i mean, whatever get the funding

[strange umbra]

We should add muffins to everything

[coarse turtle]

game dev is a job, not a selfess act of art

[turbid silo]

Agreed, Chocolate Chip Muffins please

[strange umbra]

ill see your chocolate chip and raise you bacon cheddar muffins

people be sleepin on savory muffins

[sterile mauve]

Yo why did I get pinged? I can't find the message lol

[quartz spoke]

whatever gets the funding even if it kills the game in long term? sure

[turbid silo]

I'm a sweet muffin guy haha

[coarse turtle]

yes, peopel need money to live

[turbid silo]

But I have no dobut those are tasty

[coarse turtle]

most games arent made to live forever

[lament slate]

i've watched a few friends play all of them and i enjoy watching them play it but i grew up to FF games, Lufia 1&2, Dragon Quest, Chrono Trigger to name a few :3

[strange umbra]

mostly eat them as a bread side with soups or stews - om nom nom

[quartz spoke]

then why make a live service game?

[turbid silo]

Ooo with homemade chicken noodle soup

lets gooo

[strange umbra]

yes

[coarse turtle]

? where did i bring that up in this point

[strange umbra]

surprised my parents for my Dad's 70th by coming into town - and my mom made chicken and dumplings from scratch

psure I ate like 8 bowls of it

[turbid silo]

Heck yeah

[quartz spoke]

the discussion was about games that have same concept as LE and the viability of paid content

[hearty crystal]

Ok i added muffins to my trashcan

[coarse turtle]

thats not what i was talking about my guy

[strange umbra]

💔

[hearty crystal]

Its just 1 thing i added it to. Also added it to table and computer

But i am avoiding the cat cus it has chocolate in it

[cunning flame]

I added it to my belly

[quartz spoke]

then what where you talking about?

[coarse turtle]

you could read the messages?

[cunning flame]

Yknow what’s fun

[hearty crystal]

Modded Skyrim

[strange umbra]

https://tenor.com/bpEmY.gif

[cunning flame]

Arguing about video games

[quartz spoke]

#💬┃general message #💬┃general message
no?

[turbid silo]

@coarse turtle No need for snarky comments.

[coarse turtle]

lol, if someone asks me what im talking about when responding to the thing si was talking about, i feel thats a very good palce for it tbh

[lament slate]

https://tenor.com/view/the-book-of-boba-fett-this-is-the-way-the-armorer-mandalorian-gif-25545276

[cunning flame]

It was a good one tbh I’d do that too

[turbid silo]

Not here.

[coarse turtle]

ok

[quartz spoke]

#💬┃general message #💬┃general message

this is not what you were talking about? and these were not related to what I was talking about? just asking to make sure if I misread or what

[turbid silo]

I think we should move on from this conversation. It's not really going anywhere and is resulting in, what seems to be, frustration, confusion, etc.

[coarse turtle]

we did move on, this guy dragge dit back because he didnt read any context for the current posts lmfao

[cunning flame]

What build should I play if I wanna throw axes

[hearty juniper]

Le person get account compromised > general pops off due to @all > spinal out of control in general chat.... its barrens general chat from wow classic all over again.

[proud hinge]

What'sd I get tagged for?

[quartz spoke]

I'll never forget the finland vs sweden wars in barrens chat on stormreaver(eu)

[turbid silo]

Barrens chat will forever be immortalized in the history of chats

[strange umbra]

almost all of my tattoos are WoW themed lol

been playing that since Day 1 - my WoW addon is also my long term side hustle (going on 13th yr now)

[rose hamlet]

Who pinged me

[strange umbra]

I do have a pretty sweet LE tattoo also 🙂

[quartz spoke]

soooo when are we getting LE addons 👀

(please never add them)

[rose hamlet]

Oh okay
I see the pinned message

[hearty juniper]

This is a moment of no return for LE the day mike was compromised and general turned into a rage induced chat about "expansion when?" then into attacking people about this or that.... 1/21 the day mike forgot his password and general turned on one another and it all points back to wick the @all_king

[strange umbra]

(was still healing a bit in this pic)

I also have my normal Muffin avatar, and then 6 versions of him cosplaying the 6 WoW tank classes 🙂
a D&D dice sword, and a logo

^ all of those guys as tats

[turbid silo]

Moar emojis!

[strange umbra]

its almost like I used to work for Twitch lmao

[royal kite]

he/him

[waxen sparrow]

NGL if the paid classes allows us to mix three different classes in one character that would be hella fun

It would be fun to finally be able too use fire earthquake while using paladin passives

[bronze orbit]

Weird to see you here jiji

[quartz spoke]

It could be as fun without the paid part

[quartz spoke]

Nou

[waxen sparrow]

Also can we change fire raptors into poison raptures? Beastmaster have 0 passives on fire we seriously need to exclude fire on primalist it's just bad build

[lofty heath]

I will never forget 🤣

[olive mist]

i suppose the ping was bot spam ?

[quartz spoke]

Inbox exists

Actually on mobile it's bad nvm, the ping message is pinned anyways

[rose rock]

yo when is the next season

[oak saffron]

I want harder fights

[chrome basalt]

Tie one of your hands behind your back

[main frigate]

..... single message with ping everyone here then messages are exploded

[strange umbra]

Mar 26th

[green stream]

did Mike get his account back?

[strange umbra]

TBD 🙁

[green stream]

hope he can

[main frigate]

Just discover Mike's account is disappeared

[strange umbra]

It was compromised

had to be temp removed from the discord

hes working on getting it back

[full bane]

did he format his computers

[main frigate]

Quite unfortunate. It's an account over 8 years here

[strange umbra]

I imagine he did ya

[full bane]

might want to get all his credentials changed

[strange umbra]

oh ya hes on top of all of that already

[full bane]

especially work ones, any vpn token/config files

[strange umbra]

yar

[quasi vale]

So what did this mike send, fishing links or malware

[strange umbra]

discord auth token stealer bot

[leaden quartz]

Thank god for this game

[novel jay]

i was pinged >.>

[strange umbra]

see pin

[novel jay]

i see

[main frigate]

My account don't enable that even

[median agate]

lol@ a company employee getting "hacked." so many people have no idea how to avoid computer scams

[short vessel]

Mike's never gonna live this down

[lunar garden]

Poor Mike you never forget your first discord hack.

My first dumped all my servers and started messaging people wanting to sell them fake pokemon cards

[west lintel]

Choices to be regretted in 50 years.

[strange umbra]

I love my tattoos and will always love them - they tell my story ❤️

[main frigate]

mine experience is about nitro. My account have hacked after I clicked a fake nitro giveaway web

Hacker tried to steal my money by yearly nitro

[strange umbra]

see pin

[vernal hornet]

huzzah! once again the suspicious cynic reigns supreme! I know EHG staff will never message me about anything! I'm not important!

[lunar garden]

please tell me you have a tattoo of a LE server rack on fire

[main frigate]

Hope Mike don't lose his money 👀

[strange umbra]

no but I almost got LE61 on my knucks

lol

[main frigate]

I think slow mode can be closed

[distant plinth]

Classic scams on discord:

• sorry I reported your steam (phishing link to steal steam account)
• hi I'm an artist, commission me here's my work [stolen art from other artists/AI generated stuff], sometimes AI generates something, other times just takes the money and runs or tries to steal money
• scan this qr code with discord mobile (many different ones, free nitro and check in in a server are common)
• please try my game (sends virus)
• elon musk crypto casino/mr beast giveaway.

[main frigate]

hi I'm an artist, commission me here's my work:

:)
(well I created artworks but yes it's not the place to self-promote)

[worldly lotus]

Why i got a ping

[tender light]

Ping

[worldly lotus]

;_;

[zinc blaze]

look at pins

[main frigate]

Mike is left this server already so... EHG is investigating

[strange gale]

So mike got hacked?

[simple bison]

Affirmative

[strange gale]

Yikes, lemme guess, it had his account post that some 4 screenshots every hacked account has been posting, another bloody crypto scam

[distant plinth]

Oh, that's the one I forgot.

[chilly estuary]

eh, someone just tag all, right?

[distant plinth]

Your voxel stuff looks really nice, what tools do you use?

[distant plinth]

Yeah someone in the staff got their discord hacked and pinged everyone

[main frigate]

Magicavoxel

[distant plinth]

Ty

[main frigate]

I did acrylic painting too, but not on artstation yet

Still need more practice. The common of what I'm doing is zero relationship with games because I don't know how to connect environment art with level design yet

My idea is make my own art. AI? Just a tool.

[distant plinth]

I just do minimalist pixel art (e.g. 8x8/16x16) and shitpost stuff (my favorite art trick is 3 line stickman type characters, basically o(c but upright)

[distant plinth]

The easiest to start is to just do a blockout of the level and then apply art over that, though some people prefer to start with a coherent level base and then edit it to make the level inside.
(Do note that some skips might be able to be done using environment props depending on movement options, iirc there's a big one in mirror's edge using a sign that was added as decoration)

[main frigate]

#📚┃off-topic message

I tried to apply environment-artist-relevant positions from EHG twice, I knew I will not select by them so I grab this chance to show them my acrylic painting lol

[distant plinth]

But level design is a whole other beast compared to making environment.

[main frigate]

I can use blockout to design but my logic still belong to... Illustration lol

[distant plinth]

Something you can try is remake other game's levels in a different style, like what if you make mario 1-1 into a cliffside path?

[main frigate]

On the game part, the biggest block is my gaming experience is too poor. I'm quite picky on graphics + learn many types of gameplay are quite hard + I need economy support to buy games cause not much games I can play

[distant plinth]

Though arpg level design is pretty different, especially if you work with procedural generation

[main frigate]

(poe 2 is a hell, for example. I died 1k+ times in 0.1)

oh yes procedural generation... That's call technical artist

[distant plinth]

I'm working on and off on a graph based procedural generator, something similar to what poe uses.

[main frigate]

Programmer + artist

[neat hazel]

who

nvm its a bot

[hallow mist]

when’s the next L(ai)st Epoch update

is chatgpt gonna help me pick all my points

[copper sorrel]

Does discord not have a quick option to get to the message that tagged one? Except searching for it...

[distant plinth]

It has, message was deleted, check pins

[copper sorrel]

How to get to the tag fast then? In general, not this one

[simple bison]

Click this

[distant plinth]

Notifications on mobile

[copper sorrel]

Sick! You learn something new every day. Thanks.

[glacial sparrow]

Thanks for the ping!

🔔

[true cosmos]

Wgere us the tag?

[slim fossil]

WHOMST

[crisp barn]

Was a hell* its way easier now. 0.1 was f*cked up

[cedar vessel]

Why was I summoned

[ruby sedge]

#💬┃general message

[stuck umbra]

PoE 2 is just PoE1 lite now 😅

[austere vale]

Who ping

[stuck umbra]

maybe read two comments up ? 🙂

[tiny badger]

Read pin message

[halcyon hedge]

ping

[gentle patio]

I don't even know who that is tbh

[hard blade]

@austere vale I dont know who pinged, but its annoying when someone @

[main frigate]

The host of Friday stream, senior game developer in EHG, the only dev who would appear in ask-the-dev to answer questions from players

[willow sentinel]

@hard blade dont know what you are talking about 😏😏

[hard blade]

trueeeee LUL

@willow sentinel kinda crazy ngl

[green ore]

Ever watched Lensman? 😛

[crisp sinew]

Wait mike like 12 hours ago?

[south moat]

yes

[crisp sinew]

Honest question. What did he click a link on? 😂😂😂😂

Probably went honest mistake where "friends" trying to ask you for a vote though.

[south moat]

Don't know
but the hacked account sent discord auth token stealer thing to users

[crisp sinew]

Had that on Steam 4 years ago

Damn shit

[south moat]

Which is a good reminder to never click a random link

etc

[crisp sinew]

even if "someone asking for a vote"

too bad the hacker wasn't sophisticated. if it was genius it would send link "You'll get free DLC if you click this redeem link"

or "We giving away 4 extra Last Epoch keys"

I think if that ever happened? The whole eco system of this server would collapse like crazy

[rancid pulsar]

I did not pin mike of all people as most likely to get their account compromised lmao

[south moat]

I guess it's a good reminder that it can happen to anyone
A friend of mine had his account hacked because his son (who is like... 5 or 6) went and clicked something when he was away

[knotty edge]

why did I get a ping here

[rancid pulsar]

check pins

oopsie happened oopsie resolved

[south moat]

#💬┃general message

[jaunty torrent]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1266054978213118064/1293798350176391188/caption.gif

[knotty edge]

thank you

[south moat]

But oh boy, general chat exploded after that ping

[copper spade]

Also caught in it, but it's better that someone responding to an official account and getting scammed. +1 for the ping 🙂

[south moat]

Aye

[stable wolf]

saved my ass xdd

ty

[crisp sinew]

Didn't since Blizzard era you'll go: "Never accept any official private message, our developer or company never DM the players"????

[chrome basalt]

Good morning, I never trust any friend request or message online unless I started it

But I feel like I didn't get picked for the football team as I didn't have any messages to even ignore.

[south moat]

Gm AFK

[chrome basalt]

I am noticing that even when some of my imprints eventually do drop specifically belts I am seeing less of, they have very low FP like 9 FP as my imprints are zeroed since I crafted them to imprint. Unsure if I am imagining that though or it's a real thing. But when I put a unique in all slots, it pretty much rains that unique fast. Do I need to nuke an affix so it only has 3 when imprinted to make it more consistent for exalteds? Is that why I saw people mention 771s before and stuff?

Also noticed the Cuckoo says it creates an exalted with high FP so am regretting leaving so many behind when I left my bank behind liberating myself from SSC.

I have been trying to get a good belt to imprint onto a 3lp Brewmasters Buckle, but I am not seeing much drop even doing woven Unclaimed Troves to spam caches.

[earnest crown]

from the ping i thought there are news on the new season 🙁

[south moat]

The FP on imprinted items is based on the FP of the original you put in

[chrome basalt]

So that is real, thanks for confirming that, I wasn't sure if I was tripping and just forgetting trying to craft something already or it dropped like that. I'll definitely have to take that into consideration the way I am trying to use the imprints then lol

[south moat]

Yes, very much a real thing indeed

[broken yarrow]

Will This game be p2w soon

[south moat]

No

[brittle rock]

One of the best games, and you're losing money because the seasons are too long. They're boring. Introducing fees won't help if no one plays the game. It's too slow. 😀😀😀

[charred turtle]

actualy so true, im just waiting for new season

[brittle rock]

Yes

[chrome basalt]

I mean, everyone could be making more money all the time if they worked twice as much and twice as hard. Are you calling them lazy?

[inner finch]

Just recruit 60 more employees and onboard them at the hyperbolic time chamber

[brittle rock]

I don't think so. It's just that if new content were released faster, there would be more players, so they would buy more.

[outer mauve]

ngl, i too would like more content sooner, but i also dont mind grinding a season for a month+ straight and then relaxing a bit before the next one comes out

having that break lets me get back into the game more refreshed with no burnout

if was playing last epoch every day (or every other day) of the year then i'd prob get sick of it, its a hard decision to make seasons further apart especially because of how much work has to go in (those new items arent going to model themselves) but its necessary to have some downtime

[brittle rock]

Yes, I just wanted to give the developers a piece of advice. Maybe more players, not more paid stuff, would help them.

[outer mauve]

It also comes down to how the game is monetized. A one-time payment is detrimental to the developers, where the solution for that imo is more cosmetics in the shop, or as people dislike, paid DLC.

It's mainly why the acquisition happened with Krafton which I disliked at the start, but understood as time went on.

[brittle rock]

Yes ofcourse.

[main frigate]

They don't hire me :(

They want pros which 35+ years old and work in game industry 10+ years only

[inner finch]

You may have a chance if you offer the hyperbolic time chamber

[outer mauve]

Just from my perspective, I would say that a community poll for the cosmetic styles wanted would be a good way to gauge the "demand" for MTX, because as it stands, there's a lot of the MTX that I just wasn't interested in. For an 'aesthetic' like Last Epoch's world, I don't really like all the glowing shiny armour and huge wings.

Give me some regular but cool looking clothes, a choice of backpacks/backwear (swords/quivers/shields on the back) and I'd be down to spend money.

Add in some "fun" stuff, example being the Backstab Cape from RuneScape and you can try do some cool outfits with them

[inner finch]

A Transmog system that was on the roadmap was scrapped from it in recent roadmaps

So....

[brittle rock]

My friends and I bought it because we wanted to give them some money. We had a great time without being forced to buy additional content.

[outer mauve]

Which is sad af, because some of the regular gear fits what I'd like, just add some Transmog Slots for like €2 each and I'd be spending quite a bit on that.

[chrome basalt]

I grew up with subscriptions and paid expansions. So I think I find those, more normal options. Paid cosmetics honestly watered games down, by removing the way we would craft, or earn cosmetics in game through achievement. So it isn't necessarily, a good option just because you think paying for a character class should be free, when cosmetics should probably not be monetized either in an ideal world either.

I would imagine it also comes down to, would you rather they work on more cosmetics, or more game?

[inner finch]

idk what EHG initially intended with a transmog system, but i would imagine it being similar to Diablo's one, with dye sets, previously-owned and salvaged armor being available, the whole thing

Maybe that's just wishful thinking

[brittle rock]

I understand that it takes money to run an online game. It doesn't bother me as long as I have a choice.

[quartz spoke]

Cosmetics are optional while classes will limit player's options in gameplay and directly cause players to quit for not having access to all content

[chrome basalt]

I don't really even know what is intended, just paid for classes or something or expansions? I find it more surprising, that it is surprising these days. I am just glad it doesn't have adverts for purchases thrown in my face. Honestly one thing I did notice was that this game seems to have leaderboards for like, Arena and first to reach level 100 in the season is it? Do we need more challenging, or just more leaderboards in general to motivate people to be highscoring the best at more things? More seasonal title rewards or cosmetics as prizes? Highscores are traditionally the whole origin of competitive gaming aren't they?

Can you really call not buying something you weren't playing unless they release new content, quitting because you don't want to buy the new content?

I think that is a weirdly illogical thought process. You are suggesting, we should have the option to not pay them for new content. So you are kind of valuing their work, as being only worth of tips rather than a sale really is the way I would see that. There is no obligation for them to make games, they could go work somewhere else that will pay them for their work. Working on goodwill isn't a great way to be. And again, they will start spending more time making cosmetics, than making new game content. Every person they hire to fix that problem, increases the problem by giving you more people to pay, and increasing the need for more money to be made. I know I am probably oversimplifying but I feel like, this sort of attitude is what creates the feedback loop of overly monetized games with really watered down shallow copy pasted soulless content. We bring it on ourselves by demanding supply. So they feed us slop and we eat it and demand more.

Creating new, isn't limiting. They could create nothing.

Anyway, I realize I have quite strong feelings on the subject and might be quite jaded or old these days. Mobile phone games still disgust me, but there are entire generations now that may, think they aren't that bad. lol

[balmy arrow]

[outer mauve]

Your point on the Leaderboards aspect is pretty good actually. I think there should be more competitive things using the Leaderboards at the start which can result in in-game rewards. Just some simple 'First to:" x Level, x Corruption, finish x Chapter, first to fuse x LP item, first to complete Arena, etc...

Throw in some dope cosmetics & store points & transmog slots (i beg) as free rewards to the players who want to compete

[obtuse bay]

[primal abyss]

Good day fellow Travelers

[outer mauve]

🫡

[south moat]

Hello there Van

[primal abyss]

I hope you all are well

[night marten]

these are fine things to throw into #feedback , esp since they are asking for event ideas/rewards...etc

[sacred egret]

So I've got a friend who likes the game, but he feels like the XP curve is a bit too slow at the start of the game. Any advice?

[night marten]

play faster. and that isnt sarcastic. you are powerful enough to handle quite a bit over your character level

so dont specifically kill everything you run across at low levels

you get more xp for the higher kills

just run thru

dots are great to hit once on the move and let it die off screen for xp

[sacred egret]

Alright, thanks 😄

[primal abyss]

Solid advice that and while leveing totally get take a little bit of time and understand what skills 'work' for you

[maiden spruce]

just run through

A boss at higher level gives like 40x more exp than low level creeps

Find a skill with high aoe and proccing of ailments

[sacred egret]

I think he means the first 5-10 levels specifically, since you don't have much in the way of skills that early.

[maiden spruce]

Yeah its a slog

[knotty raven]

here i was hoping to find the red dot in the news channel, sadge 🙁

[maiden spruce]

but even that can be sped up

Just stack ailments

[turbid silo]

Good day everyone

[maiden spruce]

Hello

When is new cycle

[strange umbra]

Good morning Travelers 🙂

[strange umbra]

Mar 26th

[primal abyss]

Hello Derrick & Muffin

[south moat]

Gm Derrick & Muffin

[turbid silo]

Hey hey, good morning

[strange umbra]

hiya nub!

[turbid silo]

Gosh it's already Thursday

Time flie

s

[pseudo tartan]

Hello 😛

[turbid silo]

Hey hey Justie!

How are you

[south moat]

Too fast, really

[turbid silo]

I know right?

I feel like the older you get the faster it goes

[primal abyss]

🧓

[south moat]

Well yes
You have more time of reference so a day or week doesn't feel too long anymore
and then suddenly you realize something you thought was "just last year" was actually over 10 years ago

[turbid silo]

Yeah, no kidding

I get the whole "I feel old" when I look at how old some famous electronic music songs that I love are

i.e. Sandstorm by Darude came out in.....

2000. 26 years ago.

[primal abyss]

Its wild that I legit remember it coming out too

whew..

[turbid silo]

Right?

At all the sporting events you'd hear it endlessly

[south moat]

It's a classic

[mortal lance]

Time sure does feel like it goes by faster the older one gets.

[south moat]

You also have more thing to reference
When you're just a kid something like a few months is also a larger portion of your life than it is as an adult

Not saying you're an old man or anything

[strange umbra]

lol was looking at some pics of me at a rave in 2001 - I feel this in my bones

and I have multiple grandchildren now lmao

[mortal lance]

35, I feel old haha

[south moat]

Same

[turbid silo]

Haha, ah how I with never stop loving going to shows 🙂

[mortal lance]

We don't have any big trance events here anymore. It was an amazing time though. Our psytrance scene is big here though.

[turbid silo]

Nice, where you at?

Region, doesn't have to be specific lol

[mortal lance]

South Africa. I was lucky to catch the end of the trance era here. I saw Armin, Sean Tyas, Protoculture, aly and fila, Paul Van Dyk etc. It was honestly a great memory.

[turbid silo]

Ahh some great names! I DJ as a hobby and opened for PvD, Sean (actually am friends with him), met Armin in 2008

[south moat]

Tbh I only started getting into trance some years ago

[turbid silo]

Trance saved my life, but now I like all sorts of electronic music especially since I moved to Chicago

[mortal lance]

Do yourself a favour and listen to Sneijder, he plays some really great trance

[turbid silo]

SO GOOD

Love some Sneijder 😄

[mortal lance]

Man, I am blasting his music as we speak after a nice long day at work 🙂

[turbid silo]

I'm going to turn some on right now too talking about this lol

[mortal lance]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=v5csggG8AQU&list=OLAK5uy_nyOOW4TDVEXlybay6F-JymJNWYiGpn57s

[turbid silo]

It'd be helpful to turn my headphones on 😄

That song you linked is so good

from tha tlist

[mortal lance]

Here is another insane song from Sean Tyas 🙂

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=En_ihn90Zjk

[turbid silo]

I have that vinyl autographed by him 😄

[mortal lance]

so lucky man

[south moat]

At one point I heard a trance classic start playing at the gym I go to
or I thought it was the classic.
But no
it was some mumble rap 🤮

[turbid silo]

LOL

@mortal lance If that's you in your avatar we look quite similar if I still had my black rimmed glasses and full beard 😄

[mortal lance]

ahhh rocking the bald look since my early 20's haha

[south moat]

Like the artist had just taken the entire song and mumbled over it

[turbid silo]

Haha, I finally accepted the fact and shaved in my early/mid 30s

[strange umbra]

almost 44 and still manage to have all my hair - its just mostly gray now lol SilverFoxMuffin

[turbid silo]

Everyone says I look better bald. I was exploring hair transplants, but because everyone thinks I look better bald, I'll save that money for home improvements 😄

[mortal lance]

like wise, I luckily have a the facial features to pull it off. It does not bother me at all. There are so many bald men in my family haha

[turbid silo]

Yeah, it doesn't bother me at all

And fortunately, I can grow facial hair no problemo

[strange umbra]

the glowups I see on /r/bald are inspiring

[mortal lance]

It was my go to place for a while haha

[south moat]

My hair was getting lighter in color over time
because I wasn't actually getting proper nutrition from food thanks to undiagnosed diabetes that wasn't getting treatment
but now it's back to the normal color

[strange umbra]

Ya im not even joking - the love that community has for its members is really cool

[turbid silo]

Banger of a track here.

[mortal lance]

yeah, it was actually a big thing mentally for me initially.

The crazy part about trance events for me is that time will fly by so fast, 8 hours will feel like 1 minute haha.

one last banger before I leave 🙂 It was a lovely chat, have a great evening/day 🙂
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=if4yvGrQB14&list=RDAOJp-e_xtdsSZTv-bwvIZ4kQ

[turbid silo]

Haha, have a wonderful night @mortal lance

[turbid silo]

FACTS. I just got tickets to Dreamstate yesterday. So very excited 😄

[mortal lance]

Have a wonderful time there and be safe

[turbid silo]

Thanks and always!

[mortal lance]

I am jealous by the way, that event looks insane

[turbid silo]

Haha, I have never been to the SoCal one (largest). I've only done the San Fran one and that's tiny in comparison

[severe socket]

Hiya EHG staff 👋

[turbid silo]

Hello @severe socket !

How are you

[honest belfry]

Morning all!

[hazy wharf]

Kick me out of the guild, the game is definitely taking up too much time and I have more interesting and ambitious things to do. GL&HF

[south moat]

There are no guilds in LE.

You must be posting in wrong discord

[viral marsh]

This looks like Google translate -> chatGPT -> Post in a random discord
A real gamer message.

[severe socket]

Obsessed with a particular soundtrack.

[turbid silo]

Oh yeah?

[severe socket]

Can share if you're curious.

[turbid silo]

Which one?

[severe socket]

1 sec

[honest belfry]

Quake?
Doom?
Devil May Cry?

[severe socket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_sgKwvIfc8&pp=ygUOdGFuZ2xlZCBmbG93ZXI%3D
This one.

Also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-BPUbgeXPk&pp=ygUed2hlcmUgdGhlIHJlYWN0b3IgZHJpdmUgc2hpbmVz

And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ftWrffuAUc&pp=ygUjdGhlIGNoZXJyeSBibG9zc29tcyB3ZSBzYXcgdGhhdCBkYXk%3D

[turbid silo]

So relaxing

[severe socket]

Right?

Wuthering Waves, being literally built on "sounds and music as the driver of the narrative", delivers at LEAST 1 to 4 bangers every update.

Oh, lookie here too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeokWLZkFD0&pp=ygULdGhyb3R0bGUgdXA%3D

A LOT of people assumed this is made by Hiroyuki Sawano, given the vocalist.

Except it's not (different composer), but the vibe is VERY much the same.

[woven sentinel]

What the hell has happened haha

[severe socket]

Music.

[turbid silo]

We love music

and food

and Last epoch 😄

[severe socket]

Another banger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU7od2rl3AQ&pp=ygUSdW5maW5pc2hlZCBqb3VybmV5

As a VERY auditory person I literally can't get enough of all that.

[last dock]

Who dares tag me

[south moat]

Pinned message
#💬┃general message

[turbid silo]

Mike's account has been secured, however, it's still important to be vigilant about your Discord account security. We always recommend 2FA for your Discord account and always double check links you click.

[severe socket]

In fact, 2FA up everything.

[turbid silo]

Agreed 🙂

[severe socket]

So did any of those pieces above scratch any of your itches? 🙂

[last dock]

Thanks

[upbeat wasp]

Interesting notification

Much appreciated

[fallow agate]

Great songs shared

[marble bolt]

what was ping ?

[honest belfry]

Pinned comment

[last juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-any-gif-26357631

So uh... are we going to get some thorns builds working?

[inner finch]

Hey, Mike has been ressurected

[hushed stream]

Daily lizard!

Morning

[brazen bane]

this company remains a joke

[zinc blaze]

okay

[viral marsh]

Why?

[zenith plaza]

I think your the little joker in here

[lean berry]

I like jokes. Can you tell me what the joke is?

[obtuse bay]

lizard jokes aside

have a great day everyone ❤️

[bright pawn]

either someone pinged me a long time ago or i got ghost pinged

[lean berry]

It was me, I'm sorry.

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/ghosts-ping-pong-ghost-gif-5447337

[broken aurora]

where to lfg?

[severe socket]

#👥┃lfg or in-game chat if you're using it.

[south moat]

It was a ping to warn about one of the dev accounts being hacked and it sent private messages to some users with auth stealing link. Reminder to not click any suspicious links and so on.
Dev has regained his accoubt

[hushed stream]

anyone else getting weird internet lag in game right now?

[crisp sinew]

Any Dev awake?

[main frigate]

No, Americans are sleeping

Ave will be here in this time if she still be here

All of them base on US time now so 3 more hours you need to wait

[south moat]

What do you need a dev for?

[crisp sinew]

Nothing, I'm just still laughing on what happened yesterday

[primal abyss]

Good day everyone!

[heady night]

Good day! Excited for anot dev stream!

[primal abyss]

Ayeee! That's a good reason to be excited :]

[south moat]

Hey there, Van

[primal abyss]

Sup nub! How are you?

[muted cape]

Dev stream today?

[chrome basalt]

I had a weird thought today regarding sound. I was thinking of buff sounds, perhaps toggleable sounds for buffs we could set to signal to us when they are up, running out or below/above certain stack amounts

probably a bit crazy to do though

[muted cape]

Looks like Mike is all well again

[chrome basalt]

I keep thinking of myself building stacks chainsawing mobs with melee attacks and thinking I'd love if this made like even cheesey noises like coin or ring collecting in mario/sonic and then I triggered a like star like powerup noise as I had all my stacks to unleashing devastating damage during

silly probably but like, also could be cool maybe not in that exact fashion but metaphorically the best way I can describe it lol

rhythm

[muted cape]

good idea for new mtx

[chrome basalt]

I'd buy that for a dollar!

I would pay for that though tbh

[frank mesa]

big leaks today FOR SURE

also we need gender bender skins for LE

(thought after playing TLI)

[turbid silo]

A big HAPPY BLUE FRIDAY to everyone!

(We call it Blue Friday if you're from Seattle and are a Seattle Seahawks fan 😛 )

Not that it matters here, but context is nice lol

[chrome basalt]

My brain immediately tried to mash New Order, Eiffel 65 and Rebecca Black after thinking about Blue Friday

[strange umbra]

YAY LOCAL SPORTSBALL TEAM

lol

[chrome basalt]

Imagine tomes of experience contributed to rested xp for other characters on your account, just a thought

[primal abyss]

As far as I know, yes 😉

[turbid silo]

Yessir! And he's got some teasers to share 😉

[muted cape]

FIRE

[chrome basalt]

This Guilhem Desq guy came up on my Spotify recently and now I really dig his slapping hurdy gurdy tracks. I had to google what hurdy gurdy even was. It's a very cool sound

[primal abyss]

regardless, I personally like seeing feedback like this. Be sure to dump these ideas and the others in #feedback or #suggestions

[turbid silo]

Lizard gang in the house!

[round lake]

warcry on primalist for sure need sound rework. He doesn't sound as primalist warcrying over. Check how rage sound sounds in baldurs gate 3. That's good one. (and why primalist is so small and skinny..)

[balmy arrow]

yeeeeep

[cobalt shoal]

What the best way to earn Merchant guilds Favor now?

[primal abyss]

I usually purchase items from the vendor that welcomes you and allows you to purchase random roll items. You also get some by just progressing and defeating enemies little by little.

[bright pawn]

ah alright, I was pinged through this channel? I didn't know where it was pinged honestly, but thanks for the clarification.

[turbid silo]

Yeah sadly, there are some bad actors going around trying to hijack accounts :/

[bright pawn]

Glad im not a victim.

[turbid silo]

Me too!

And I also am glad I'm not either heh

[strange umbra]

Good morning Travelers 🙂

[honest belfry]

Good morning!

[turbid silo]

Everyone hide, Muffin is here!

Kidding 😄

Top o' the mornin' to you @strange umbra !

[honest belfry]

I'm not. RUN!

[strange umbra]

missed Muffin Top pun... smh

lol

I have a tshirt that says "top o' the muffin to ya"

lol

good times

[strange umbra]

[zealous siren]

what time is Dev stream today?

[brittle hollow]

Same as always I’d imagine 🙂

[zealous siren]

when is usually?

[turbid silo]

It's at 1 PM PST/3 PM CST/4 PM EST

[zealous siren]

thank you

[turbid silo]

Of course!

[zinc blaze]

hows ya coffee Mr Derrick

[turbid silo]

It was great!

[zinc blaze]

🎉

[muted cape]

Stolen from jackcepticeye!

[strange umbra]

pretty sure my tshirt predates him by many years lol

[muted cape]

Haha true

[chrome basalt]

Aint muffin but an EHG thang

[wintry flax]

guys how is the best form to farm enchanted idols?

[willow sentinel]

Idols prophecies

[cold thunder]

Hi.
Is here someone who can tell my why i get banned ?

[balmy arrow]

[coarse swallow]

If you've been banned and would like more information, or make an appeal, please submit a support ticket here: https://support.lastepoch.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=4416937240347

[night marten]

New ring teaser from Mike's stream 😄

[zinc blaze]

[inner finch]

Cool, purple stuff

I love that

[turbid silo]

What on earth could that be!?

[zinc blaze]

it looks like the cousin to the hungry mimic gloves

[night marten]

well, sir, as i said its a ring 😛

[wheat pulsar]

Have a question. Why I can's see spinning circle of warpath. 5 min ago I sow it.

Even bought Holy Warpath skill effects and it does not show !

[zinc blaze]

are you still spinning and doing damage?

and have you tried reloading the game

[wheat pulsar]

yes spinning and doing damage

[night marten]

if you are still doing damage...sounds like an issue with the MTX...so i would close the game, verify files, and start again

first thought is a bad file somewhere

[wheat pulsar]

Restarted the game

[night marten]

yeah but did you verify files

[viral marsh]

Gonna be +void res +void damage, maybe set item for VK

[zinc blaze]

void wizard item gaming

[wheat pulsar]

It worked, but was strange. It was working when killing Shade of oribos, then next monolith didn't work.

[coarse swallow]

but it could be a hat, or a broach, or maybe a pterodactyl!

[night marten]

hmm...yes...a no winged no eyed giant purple pterodactyl (bonus points if you sing it)

[zinc blaze]

I could see it as a belt

full gear set made of mimics when

[coarse swallow]

I could go for that. Recorded into my feedback gathering for the day!

[zinc blaze]

🎉

can the full set bonus be if you get low on hp the mimics jump off of you and pull aggro

[coarse swallow]

random chance to jump off and cull a low health enemy (eat them)?

[zinc blaze]

yeah as you get hit/get low on hp they jump off, eat an enemy and then come back with a heal

you could even call it the symbiotic relationship set

for bosses probably just make them bite the boss and come back with a heal

[night marten]

would need some sorta will bite a rare/unique enemy chance every second thing...but that does actually sound pretty cool

could make it a set...and the more set pieces you have, the more mimics you could have out/charges to bite

[coarse swallow]

📝

[zinc blaze]

passively the mimics on you bite a nearby enemy

one of the items could even replace your dodge with with a yeet a mimic skill (that converts to melee, spell, bow, or throwing based on what you have the most flat damage for)

[night marten]

lol

[zinc blaze]

🎉

[night marten]

feel like yeeting the mimic would have to be minion damage

and not your damage

[zinc blaze]

Melee: the blunt force of you smacking them with a mimic
Throwing: you throw the mimic
Bow: you shoot the mimic at a target
Spell: The mimic looks extra void-y as it magically travels to the target
Minion: You summon it as a minion like you do with the crab ring

with enough void anything is possible

[night marten]

including going back in time and making the proper choice

[zinc blaze]

[coarse swallow]

hmmmm, I wonder, would this be a catalyst then? since you're operating it with a hand.

[zinc blaze]

its an all types weapon and it gets a lil button on it to switch what type of weapon it currently is

surely this wont cause 50000 bugs

[night marten]

hahahahaha

[zinc blaze]

cause its a mimic and it can change shapes

[coarse swallow]

haha, yea, I can virtually guarantee that aint happening =p

[zinc blaze]

understandable

[coarse swallow]

I could potentially see a separate item that's a weapon that can satisfy multiple weapon types as its unique effect

[night marten]

a mimic weapon that just has adaptive universal damage. it counts as melee, spell, throwing, and bow all at once

2 seconds too slow

🙁

[coarse swallow]

the problem is if you're using flurry, and you don't have any other added damage, does it pick melee or bow?

[zinc blaze]

hmmm

make this item a ring and it "infects" your equipped weapon?

[night marten]

if quiver bow, if no quiver melee

[coarse swallow]

ring

• When worn in left hand, weapon counts as a melee weapon, and added damage is converted to added melee damage
• When worn in right hand, weapon counts as a bow, and added damage is converted to bow damage

[night marten]

Mikes celebratory Aberroth kill teaser reveal

[night marten]

oo, kinda like traitors tongue. i can see it

[zinc blaze]

Love it

[muted cape]

ohh my haha

[timber bay]

what is CODEX?

[inner finch]

where did you encounter it?

[main frigate]

the same, I think it maybe a helmet

ring is boring because you can't see your rings on your characters

But I wonder what that light purple material on the surface. More saturated one

....I slap myself by saying it a helmet.

[main frigate]

No reference for the scale, so all guessing are make sense. Could be a ring/a helmet/a belt. No need to change

[zinc blaze]

mike said ring in the ask the devs chat

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[stark frost]

Similar to like a Bestiary, except for more general purpose use instead of exclusively focusing on one thing. In Hades for example, it is a book (UI menu) that shows all weapons you've currently found, what they do, some lore about them etc. But then also does the same for people you meet and objects you interact with.

Did something like this get announced for LE or something? Just woke up so I missed stuffs.

[mild vine]

Why aren't my skins saved? They can disappear even after simply moving to a different location. They aren't visible on the character selection screen, and you have to select them again each time.

[south moat]

#💬┃general message
this should work for that

[haughty coral]

I decided to try Mage sorcerer for the first time

Very fun

[devout siren]

What is the new game setting, at what corruption should things drop after 3 LP per character you play, just don't tell me it's a coincidence? So far it seems to be the other way around, the higher the corruption, the worse the drop, I'm asking the moderators and game creators? I'm not going to start a new topic for this.

[rocky saffron]

has anyone tried a build with the fire raptors? if so how did it do?

[brittle hollow]

There is no corruption level where you get guaranteed 3LP. Higher Corruption helps you but it depends on the item mostly. Each item/unique has a different curve on how easy it is to drop with higher legendary potential .

[devout siren]

Of course I don't want any guarantee but sometimes something will fall, because nothing falls at all, I'm almost at 3000 and completely 0

when I was at a thousand corruption four armors with 3 LP stats now I've upgraded several hundred times and absolutely nothing!000000000.0000000

[viral marsh]

It's terrible, lacks so much unfortunately

[severe socket]

I REALLY hope they either remove mirages as a redundancy to shadows or make them actually useful outside of Lethal Mirage and occasional Puncture.

[hushed stream]

Was there a season 3 first week stats graph?

Couldn't seem to find it

[modest wharf]

Not played in a long time would you say its worth? End game decent?

[south moat]

How long is a long time?

[late bramble]

have they put a date on new season yet ?

[inner finch]

March 26th

[heady night]

if you google "arpgs to play right now"

i think thats pretty cool and is a testament of what great things the people at EHG have done over the years. just up there with the big dogs

thats all

[lunar ocean]

Next season is looking good

[main frigate]

A pity here is I can't see the day that all EHG members are offline yet

[carmine aspen]

why do u care how many days are the stuff is off?

[main frigate]

Fake imagination is fascinating

So I just trying to do some.

[copper sorrel]

Yep, can be really fascinating. I use imagination daily too. I slowly get better at it.

[languid magnet]

Hi, if an item give +x to a skill and then I remove it, how to reallocate points as they were before? Have I to respect?

[chrome basalt]

yes it is to stop people item swapping +skill points I think, you have to respec one point and reassign it. You get used to where it takes them from if it happens a lot like with legends entwined ring it happens every time you move any item you are wearing

[languid magnet]

I moved a +5 item… 🙃

[viral marsh]

You'll have to respec one or more points and lvl the skill again, personally I think the system is pretty stupid

[trail fox]

hey guys what is the status of the game worth joining?

[languid magnet]

Agree

[south moat]

Eh I'm personally waiting for the next season (march 26th)

[trail fox]

so you say its a bad time for that?

[willow sentinel]

The game is fun and fine rn if you haven't played yet

But hopefully it will be better in March

[night marten]

its no worse a time than any other time during s3.

a lot of people played s3 and are done with it until s4.

if you havent played s3, still plenty of time to play before s4

[blazing terrace]

Some ppl like me are still grinding 😅

[austere totem]

any new updates?

[brittle hollow]

Read above.

[strange umbra]

good morning Travelers 🙂

[south moat]

Good morning Muffin

[strange umbra]

niya nub - hope your weekend is going well

[south moat]

It was pretty good
Got some cleaning done though now I'm pretty much ready to go sleep
A bit too early for it still though
Hope your weekend has been good so far

[magic skiff]

That’s nice you need to

[south moat]

Why did you send me that friend invite?

[magic skiff]

What to be your friend

[south moat]

Well here's a quick tip.
Interact with the community instead of instantly start sending friend invites to people you don't know.

[magic skiff]

It’s okay

[main frigate]

my weekend is quite busy

I'll not have weekend for years lol

[willow sentinel]

I made a family dinner for 15 people

Was good fun 😄

Homemade pulled pork burger + Coleslaw + Potato salad

[south moat]

Sounds delicious

[willow sentinel]

It was pretty dope, ngl

[main frigate]

Glad to know a type of food calls coleslaw

I will done pulled burger and coleslew, left potato salad because burger and coleslaw are enough to fill my stomach

[main frigate]

Any desserts? 👀

[willow sentinel]

Bought a Saint Honoré (Ill let you google that one) 😄

[main frigate]

👍 I have an idea for what is it now. pastry base + many caramel puff with vanilla cream filling + vanilla cream

French is top 1 on enjoying sweet food

I can say knowing what puff with vanilla cream filling is and have tasted it once already over 99% people in the town I'm living.

Dislike or just refuse to learn what cream is/Never know what real cream is/Feel too expensive to give it a try/This food don't available in town etc. Complex reasons

[severe cipher]

just remeber, cod fish is best food

but ice cream is best desert

ice cream is so good that i was eating it a while ago and its -30C outside

[zinc blaze]

mmm ice cream

[south moat]

Could go for some ice cream tbh

Maybe after I'm done with the medicals

[lost hemlock]

A supreme idea

[main frigate]

Thanks for the reminder, done a matcha🍦 0.5h ago

(no idea where can I get a 🍦 with ¥18 or less money and more yummy so I keep the option)

[primal abyss]

Good day, everyone

[south moat]

Good day, Van

[main frigate]

Catch a Vulj

Van get up quite early

[primal abyss]

Do I?

[main frigate]

It's a "eat a white peach" reminder*

[primal abyss]

Oh yeah, next time I get the chance

[main frigate]

Oh so you didn't eat one before

[primal abyss]

I did not

[main frigate]

Do you mean next summer?

[primal abyss]

Yep, whenever I get the chance, we don't have peaches available right now

[main frigate]

Make sense... June - August only :(

[main frigate]

which fruit in season when January-March?

(in your area. Jesus Watermelon available in January is too... Anti-season)

[primal abyss]

I dont know off the top of my head 😆 I just eat

[main frigate]

I eat fruit rarely so me too

[eternal bough]

Hello. Is there a date for the new season yet?

[primal abyss]

Hello there! There is a day and it is March 26th. News and details like that can often be found in #news so keep an eye on it too!

[eternal bough]

ohh shoot i didnt see that when i looked. thank you!

[primal abyss]

No worries, friend

[willow sentinel]

Typically what grows in the west and another hemisphere is like apple, pear, quince, some citrus, and like kiwi.
You can start to find some rhubarb in England too.
But good lord April can't come fast enough.
It's also the time where we import a lot of "exotic" fruit > passionfruit pineapple mango banana (even though you can find them all year round in your local supermarket)

[main frigate]

quince and rhubarb are fruit I heard for the first time 👍

[willow sentinel]

I love both

[balmy arrow]

👀

[willow sentinel]

Such a nice flavor
But they aren't really mainstream

At least in France

Rhubarb is pretty popular in the UK

And they make some really good ones

[main frigate]

🤔 Did a quick search what can I do with both of them, be used in dessrets is the common direction

Make sense, Europeans are good at baking

[severe socket]

👋

[main frigate]

Good thing: EHG accept any possibilities
Bad thing: EHG accept any possibilities

🙃 ...... They just don't give any directions

[balmy arrow]

[main frigate]

Jesus no idea which world the eterra suppose to be at all is quite tough. I'm quite confused about the whole world setting in le.

[severe socket]

I legit wonder if EHG themselves can figure it out for themselves.

[main frigate]

My lord... 🙏 Come on...

The only story I can read and remember is EHG memorized a dead player by a mini grave

Did Wick make an interview with Kyle? No impression for that

[honest belfry]

I did not. But Kyle has come onto the dev streams a few times

[main frigate]

I need Kyle's story so much

Maybe his story is the key to understand the story he wrote

I want to find a clue to learn what exactly he want to express by story he wrote for le but I can't findddddddd anything :(

A city build on chains is beautiful, yes. But what the story behind this city?

[vale drum]

Hello, Last Epoch.

I was going to apply for the senior/lead level design role. Your website says remote work. Is this US only? ❤️

[south moat]

They are a global company
they do have workers from all around

[chrome basalt]

Rhubarb is a fruit? Its always grown in our garden but I never thought of it as a fruit is looks more like celery

I'm not a rhubarb person though my Mum always shouted at me for ruining her Rhubarb as a kid

[vale drum]

Thank you! I thought they were. 🙂

[south moat]

it's not a fruit

[south moat]

But I think they do work US hours so evening for EU for example

[zinc blaze]

Rhubarb is the stalk of a plant so no its not a fruit

[vale drum]

Yea. Probably. I have worked for plenty of companies that have studios in different regions/countries. Adapting is key and finding the overlapping timezones obviously 😄

[chrome basalt]

Thats ok, I am still reeling from the time I found out there is highly poisonous fruit on potato plants or something ages ago

[vale drum]

Here in Sweden people actually ate the plant and not the potato for a while. People got sick

For a while as in when it was first introduced.

[south moat]

Think that happened everywhere.
People also tried making tea out of he leaves

[zinc blaze]

google how a cashew grows

it looks fake af

[vale drum]

Cashews grow inside a fruit right? Like cocoa beans?

[chrome basalt]

I know brussel sprouts grow on weird plants that shocked me, and I love Cashews so i hope this doesn't ruin them for me lol

[zinc blaze]

on the bottom of the plant's fruit

[chrome basalt]

wow wtf, they are like toadstools hanging from a tree lol

[vale drum]

Yea. That is wild. Like the poop of a fruit

[chrome basalt]

Yeah a capsicum poop nugget

[vale drum]

Cashew sounds more appetizing of a name

[zinc blaze]

pineapples also look goofy af

like an old video game pickup

[south moat]

Yeah, pineapples are indeed weird

[zinc blaze]

also funfact: pineapples are a cluster of berries

each lil scale(?) is its own fruit

[chrome basalt]

That is so weird. I one time ate a whole pineapple with a spoon like an egg and it made my mouth start bleeding which was weird

[vale drum]

Also vomit fruit. weird name and weird to eat

[zinc blaze]

pineapples digest you

good thing we digest a pineapple faster

[chrome basalt]

I fell right into its trap

[vale drum]

Pineapples contain tiny tiny needle like structures so they give you that weird allergic feeling on the tongue

[chrome basalt]

It really did make my tongue start disintegrating or something, delicious, but never again

Vomit fruit sounds putrid, like those plants that smell like death to attract scavengers to devour them or something. Plants that eat meat are intriguing

[honest belfry]

I did this one time too. Thought I had developed an allergy and got really upset (I was like 8) because it was my favorite. Now I just know it's the fruit that eats you back.

[vale drum]

I get the same sensation when eating the little baby tomatoes or plum tomatoes.

[honest belfry]

Yeah those are acidic too. Doesn't taste like it, but they are

[vale drum]

"The stinging sensation from eating pineapple is primarily caused by bromelain, an enzyme that breaks down proteins, including those in the mucous lining of your mouth." - Google

[chrome basalt]

Yeah that pineapple almost ate me

close call

[honest belfry]

Fun fact for anyone who didn't know: You can use that enzyme to your advantage.
If you're ever planning to cook a known tough cut of meat and don't have 4+ hours to slow cook it, soak it in pure pineapple juice for about 15 minutes. Pat it dry and proceed with your recipe as normal. The enzyme works so fast it gets to work right away and saves you a ton of time when you need it.

[vale drum]

I assume this works with any protein? Worth a try next time I go on a tofu rampage in the house

[honest belfry]

I've never tried it with tofu. Beef and pork is a pretty safe bet though. I've never known fish or chicken to be tough enough to need tenderizing.

[chrome basalt]

that is quite interesting

sometimes you just want to slap a fish even though it doesnt need it

[vale drum]

I assume it is the way the proteins and muscles are built? I havent had meat for 28 years so my experience lies in tofu and even that experience is basically reduced to buying ready-to-eat stuff 😄

@honest belfry Do you know if Bamboo HR is a mess atm or are all your roles taken down?

[chrome basalt]

I don't even really know what Tofu is if I am honest

[honest belfry]

Gotta be a glitch. Let me poke around and find out

[vale drum]

Just fermented soy beans (that doesn't sound appetizing I know). Staple in the Asian countries because of their super high protein and iron content etc.

[chrome basalt]

I mean, beans are great so it actually doesn't sound that bad, pretty much all beans are good

[honest belfry]

Confirmed it's a temporary thing. The whole site is undergoing some maintenance so it should be back up soon.

[vale drum]

I love beans. I lived in the UK in-between moving to California and everywhere else and I would just eat Heinz straight out of the can, cold with tabasco.

[chrome basalt]

lol, there are things like Heinz five beans now, they really upped their game

[vale drum]

I prefer the original. I tried the chili version but I did not enjoy them. Original with some tabasco and black pepper is 🧑🏻‍🍳

https://tenor.com/view/beans-beans-meme-scrooge-mcduck-scrooge-mcduck-gif-gif-24592162

I googled Heinz beans and I didn't realize they had maple flavored beans in Canada.

[chrome basalt]

bang them on some toast if you want to be gourmet

[honest belfry]

This doesn't surprise me in the slightest 😆

[vale drum]

Too much work. I am single. 😄

[vale drum]

I looked at some of the Pepsi flavors they have in Japan and they are all super local and "current". Weird how they haven't attempted maple pepsi yet. I actually think it would taste amazing.

[honest belfry]

I legit thought you were saying there were pepsi flavored beans in japan and I was about to logout from work early

[vale drum]

Haha! I can only imagine

[honest belfry]

But yeah a maple soda would be great

[vale drum]

I think Good Mythical Morning on YouTube would have had it covered by now

[chrome basalt]

bean flavoured pepsi

caffeinated beans

[coarse swallow]

I actually just saw Maple flavoured cocacola at superstore canada

[vale drum]

I mean they sell ranch and bacon flavored sodas so a bean flavor would not surprise me at all

[vale drum]

Review incoming?

[honest belfry]

caff-eans

[coarse swallow]

I didn't dare to buy it, haha. As a canadian, maple "flavouring" is a sin

[vale drum]

Celery soda exists which was cursed as soon as it popped up in someones mind

[honest belfry]

but what about using just pure maple syrup and carbonated water?

[chrome basalt]

Celery is one of those things that I love cooked into stuff, but on its own its like a repellent to me

[vale drum]

Ughhh. I think licorice is reserved for candy only.

[coarse swallow]

That sounds like a bad idea. pure maple syrup doesn't go down the easiest, then as you're trying to get it down, it's carbonated as well? sounds like a bad time.

[chrome basalt]

Its like popping candy, except it's like, worse

[honest belfry]

[insert the syrup chugging scene from Super Troopers]

[chrome basalt]

wash it down with a mentos

[coarse swallow]

Yea, that just doesn't sound safe. Sounds like a good way to clog your esophagus and drown in syrup. Would not do with real maple syrup.

[vale drum]

Worst "spices"

Mint - toothpaste (it shouldn't be in any drinks or food), Cilantro (no words needed here)

Who ate cilantro and thought "WOW! I can finally make my food taste like hair conditioner. What a find!"

[coarse swallow]

I don't have the cilantro/soap problem, and actually quite like it. I don't think there's any spices I really don't like. Some I use rarely, like anise, but I can't think of anything I completely avoid.

[chrome basalt]

I'll be honest I love mint sauce on lamb but I think it's more vinegar and sugar than actual mint

[coarse swallow]

mint goes well with cream, good for deserts imo.

[vale drum]

Mint sauce? Like as in mushy peas and mint?

[chrome basalt]

I do put it on my peas but definitely not mushy peas, those are more like chip shop, you want the gourmet petit pois ones

[vale drum]

Yea. Im with you on this one. I dont like the chippie peas most of the time. Petit pois are amazing though but not many chippies use them

[honest belfry]

Yeah I think I'm on your side with this one. I can't think of any spices I don't like, assuming they are used correctly

[chrome basalt]

I do love mushy peas, but yeah I wouldnt put mint sauce near anything out of a chippy lol

[coarse swallow]

Ah, I have one. I don't like bay leaves. They don't do anything, it's all one big conspiracy / old wives tale being passed down in recipes.

[vale drum]

I just moved back to Sweden after working at Ubisoft for over two years. Most chip shops in Bordeaux used petit pois and made everything themselves

[chrome basalt]

Bordeaux has fish and chip shops?

[vale drum]

English culture is BIG over there. Loads of expats and tourists. Also plenty of cruise ships go there.

[honest belfry]

Yeah, still on your side.
I'm convinced the Bay leaf thing was due to an outdoor cooking accident and no one thought to look into it.
"This soup is amazing!"
"It must be because of this random leaf I found that blew in. Ask no further questions."

[chrome basalt]

I cant really think what a bay leaf tastes like now you mention it or even smells

[vale drum]

Its like someone got high on licking a toad once and some tribes made it a ritual. Who started all of it

[coarse swallow]

It tastes like an earthy leaf. Kind of like... a very weak oregano.

[honest belfry]

it doesn't. Maybe in a container with enough of them you'll get a scent but never in my life have I forgotten to add one to my food and ruined the dish.

[chrome basalt]

Some guy sitting in his garden growing bay leaves can't believe it's still working

[honest belfry]

hey man, the dude that invented the pool noodle is sitting pretty right now too, If it ain't broke, don't fix it I guess

[vale drum]

They are always in stews. I am convinced they dont really taste like much. It is something you use to impress your surroundings with

WOW A PIECE OF GREEN HE MUST WORK WITH GORDON RAMSEY

[chrome basalt]

Bay Leaf flavoured Pepsi

[honest belfry]

All of this food talk reminded me to add the new recipe to this month's Eterra Monthly, so thank you guys

[vale drum]

I think a bay leaf flavor would be better suited for sprite tbh.

"It is like sprite but with a ghost of something"

[honest belfry]

I'm about to upset somebody here but this is the hill I will die on:
Bayleaf flavored sprite is just La Croix

[vale drum]

WOW

That is an amazing take

and I feel that is actually something they would explore

[coarse swallow]

except you take it out before the end because you can't really eat them. so it's not even a visual, haha.

[vale drum]

I always eat them. Most tend to leave them in the stew and I pretend to enjoy eating it

[honest belfry]

I only say it because I genuinely tried all of the La Croix flavors and the best I got out of it was
"Sat on a truck next to a loose banana once" or "Canned water while the factory collectively imagined a lemon"

[vale drum]

I feel like a camel trying to chew them because they refuse to disintegrate

[chrome basalt]

It probably wards off evil spirits or something

[honest belfry]

I don't think you're supposed to eat them

[coarse swallow]

You shouldn't do that, they're sharp and have a high chance to cut up your throat =p But, you do you. I'm not your mom.

[vale drum]

Fibers! 😄

[chrome basalt]

just soak it in pineapple for 15 mins and then chow down on a bag of bayleaves

[honest belfry]

We JUST talked about food that fights back

[vale drum]

I feel like we havent really gotten anywhere

[coarse swallow]

cellulose != dietary fiber

[chrome basalt]

It's like people who eat the wax on Babybells

[vale drum]

I introduced my mom to babybels. I left her alone for an hour and she told me she had eaten all of it

Like. Wax and all. Disregarding my instructions

[chrome basalt]

Sometimes the Chewit is stuck to the wrapper and it just has to be done

[vale drum]

to be fair I did introduced her to some of the ginger chew candy with the rice paper you can eat the day before the incident

[coarse swallow]

so, how did this come about from starting with LE anyways?

[vale drum]

Something about pineapples

[coarse swallow]

that'll do it

[vale drum]

we learnt - not much

[honest belfry]

IDK man, I'm just here vibin

[chrome basalt]

carbonated bumblebear honey flask

[vale drum]

Oh yea. I dropped in here to also ask players what and how they would like to see level or encounters improved but that got put on the backburner

[coarse swallow]

hmmmm. In the ruined era there is Minimus, and less known in the Divine Era is his ancestor, Maximus. There, something learned.

[vale drum]

I will treasure this interaction, always 😄

[honest belfry]

Found it.
9 hours ago, Vandryll logged in, said good morning, and someone asked him what he had for breakfast. Now we're here

[vale drum]

I learnt about pineapples