👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

[manic halo]

uuuuhm guys chat is not working on HC online :S
now i cant see if there is a beast rift in my mono's =.=

[placid plinth]

Please use the in game bug reporting tool by pressing [F8] to report a bug.

As cyborg said, I don't normally have any information like that available. I'm also out of the office until January so I'll just be watching #news for information like everyone else until then anyways.

[eternal zinc]

Oh I see why Cyborg said that now

[eternal zinc]

1. Yes.
2. Epoch.
3. When period is in paradox.
4. Void version of Van.

🤔 I hope it's a good joke.

[scenic elbow]

i lose the connection to server after about 10 sec

[fleet galleon]

This isn't channel for support.

[sturdy ridge]

I guess the new roadmap is not today but tomorrow 🙏

[plucky kiln]

Mike why are you not on vacation? And instead in here talking?

[vague holly]

you know theres phones with discord right?

[plucky kiln]

They use Teams 😛

[placid plinth]

I'm on "vacation", back home now. Haven't turned my computer on yet. And we don't actually use teams.

[placid plinth]

I've seen some VPNs have conflicts like this. If you'd like support though you can contact us through the contact form on our support site.

!support

[fiery lily]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[sturdy ridge]

When you mean this week the roadmap is coming , will it be coming tomorrow? ( Aarons chat is asking )

[placid plinth]

Sorry, I don't have any "meta-info" available here. I only found out that one was coming at all because Aaron reported it.

[sturdy ridge]

ah ok

[sturdy ridge]

Thank you very much EHG 😭

[median abyss]

as a part of season 4, are you walking back your barefaced lying of only releasing cosmetic content?

[flint bloom]

there is nothing paid until the paradox classes which arent even listed on the post. so they are quite a ways out. nothing in that post is paid

[crude plover]

(paradox classes come out at the same time as the orobyss expansion, which is after season 5)

[median abyss]

so? it still needs to be addressed and dealt with

[crude plover]

It has been addressed, we're getting paid classes. And they apologized for not being able to keep the game running with just cosmetics

[flint bloom]

they have addressed it. its coming.

multiple times

including from Judd himself

you not liking the answer doesnt change that it is coming.

[median abyss]

why would I care about season 4 when I know that paid power is coming soon after? it's disgusting that they lied, whether forced or not. and paid power is the worst kind of mtx in the games industry. supporting it is also despicable behaviour. this game used to actual have some integrity and morals. I guess that means nothing when you can just exploit people for short term financial gains.

[dawn rune]

TY for the updated roadmap on S4/5/Exp ❤️

[flint bloom]

this is not the place for conversations between players

[crude plover]

If you'd like to leave feedback please do so in #feedback

[dawn rune]

That was for the employees

[fallen hatch]

Do unique drop rate from 58 mono and a certain item base drop from 62 and 70 blessings affect boss drops like uber? what the hail, so only CoF bonus applies to boss drops? MG can't help themselves at all?

[crude plover]

no

[flint bloom]

they do not

[kindred zealot]

Hello,
in a previous roadmap, transmog & dye system was included for the 1.4 release schedule. However, the new roadmap for 1.4-and-beyond doesn't include it anywhere. Is this still being worked on, or was it scrapped?

[stoic storm]

Hello. I have realized that player level and endless arenas are on the leaderboards. Will corruption ever be? It would give people a reason to want to push past their comfort zone and keep people occupied on achieving their goals if they have a global rank. I just thought it would be a good addon to the current leaderboards

[flint bloom]

will it ever? maybe, ever is a long time. its been requested alot. you can continue the trend in #suggestions

[sturdy ridge]

I hope there will be a press tour like S2 if would be cool

[eternal galleon]

I love the pivot for Spellblade to the "melee-oriented triggered spells" mastery, I had a hard time identifying the original flavor intention for this one. What was the teams original intention for the mastery fantasy of Spellblade?

[placid plinth]

The original seed for the spellblade dates back to the original passive grid system and was the melee focused quadrant of the mage class called "battle mage" . It was primarily inspired by things like D2's Enchant, Skyrim's Bound Weapon and Gandalf.

[eternal zinc]

Can EHG guess when expansion will come?

[placid plinth]

We have an internal target. As usual, all dates will be shared in #news

[placid plinth]

I'm not sure. I assume it's still in the works.

[harsh sky]

So, any yes/no confirmation if the bundle price is going up once the expansion releases?

The latest announcement still has, in all caps, the word free for all existing owners of LE. If the plan is to not increase the bundle price, the repeated emphasis on "existing" in all communications related to it isn't really conveying it effectively.

[jovial sage]

Is the blade storm skill going to remove that tree from the umbral blades skill? If so do we have an idea of what's going to replace it? (PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give some love to recall based umbral blades play)

[flint bloom]

they said its being moved from UB, so yes.

you wont get any further spoilers here.

[gritty hare]

Good morning/evening.
About the ps5 release , any plans yet what to do with pwople with accounts wanting to migrate from pc to ps5 ?

[placid plinth]

I'm usure which options we will have available to us. If there is a feature that you would like to see, drop it in #suggestions . We would like to get as much functionality in as possible but it's probably going to come down to what is possible.

[placid plinth]

There are new nodes being added to UB to replace the ones removed for Bladestorm.

[placid plinth]

I'm sorry, I don't know, vacation Mike is on the same information as you still.

[final cave]

Will the new mechanic in S4 be introduced in the campaign (I believe other seasons did this)?

And given how it bares some similarity to Breach, should we expect similar design goals with respect to the spawned mobs health and power when compared to the players (where are we at on the power fantasy - body blocked by waves of mobs scale)?

[zinc plover]

thanks for the updated roadmap, new mechanics look fun, happy to see a "horde" type mechanics, can't wait to get my hand on it and all the news stuff.
it will be long till march, but if this seasons is as good as S2, we're up for a good time 🙂

[rough falcon]

Is there anything a user should do when his PC hardware configuration is changed? I have increased the memory allocated for iGPU after installing and running LE on Steam/Linux, and so far LE seems to run with no problem. EDIT: Perhaps this is a 'support' question inappropriate for this channel.

[zinc plover]

is the delay increase between s3 and 4 due to the onboarding of new team members (seems fair, take a good amount of time to onboard people on complex project like LE 😅), or maybe an increase of initial scope ?
S4 content look larger than i imagined, based on the content of S3

[eternal zinc]

Vacation Mike lol... Have a good sleep. I just wake up

[final cave]

try !support or #❔┃ask-the-community

[static birch]

A question regarding the roadmaps and features.
In previous roadmaps and in chats and streams, EHG included a complete overhaul to the transmog system, and a proper implementation of a transmog station / system that will allow us to better customize the look of our characters (to borrow from other ARPGs, that usually means the ability to pick a previously picked or salvaged piece of gear, transform the look of certain items into the look of other ones, pick between a selection of colors and patterns, and often even entirely change the look of one weapon type to the look of a different weapon type).

Looking at the recent roadmap - the transmog system bullet point is now gone. Is the transmog system still in the works? Any detail you guys can share about future work on character apparel customization?

[static birch]

If so, i'd be happy for a confirmation

[dawn pollen]

See this is the way I didn’t want them to go, I understand tying them closer to other mage spells helps synergistically. But I would have much preferred the melee playstyle to have been enhanced by looking at the melee skills they already have, as the only real viable melee build for them is shatter strike. Just feels like playing sorc with mana strike with how it sounds right now….

[flint bloom]

#💬┃general message

[placid plinth]

I'm already outside the scope of this channel with the answer that was linked. I generally don't have details about upcoming content here unless it's something I'm specifically working on and even then I can only be super vague.

[placid plinth]

If you'd like you can delete the settings file for LE so that the game thinks it's a first boot and auto sets default settings. You can also select a new preset in the settings. Or you can just increase the settings until it struggles and then move it back down a touch. The support site should have an article with that file location.

!support

[fiery lily]

Anything we can help with? We've support articles and a contact form at https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[plain spindle]

Hi Mike.
Is one of the new rogue skills included that you mentioned once in one of your streams that you would like to see in s4?
Also is bladestorm gonna be a rogue skill? I couldnt read out if its going to be BD exclusive.
Enjoy your time off!

[placid plinth]

Both are base rogue.

Sorry I don't quite understand the stream reference question (been up since 3am)

I haven't described the fully new rogue skill on stream.

[plain spindle]

Thx for the info. Haha no worries. It was a while ago when someone asked you in chat about a new rogue skill for s4.
You said that the team is working on two or multiple skills for it and that you are hoping for this one particular rogue skill you really like to be included in s4.
Was just wondering if the team did you a favour and will include it. Since you also like to play marksman, i guess its shadow rend because it has bow support? 🙂

[valid siren]

Hi Devs and thanks for the updated map. A couple of questions/feedback in order of appearance in the roadmap:

1. Corrupting items: Is this going to lead to a massive jump in power creep? I have bad experience from needing the mandatory "+1 power charges" or "+X to AoE gems" in PoE, not because I wasn't getting them, but because they were almost mandatory to cover the gap between normal bosses to uber bosses.

2. Balance and Skill changes is mentioned in S5, does that mean there won't be a balance pass in S4?

3. Very interested in seeing new unique and set items, as well as Morditas and Orobyss as bosses and of course Sigils 🙂

4. PC Performance upgrades mentioned in the expansion, will there be anything minor before that?

5. Major User Interface changes, are we looking at a full overhaul or some tweaks? I generally find that the UI is very friendly to my eyes, going toe-to-toe with Grim Dawn's UI for the title of my favourite UI, and time and again I've said congrats to the design team for using vibrant colours like green yellow and purple without making the game look like a free FPS aimed at 10 year-olds. I'm slightly worried that the general vibe of LE might change drastically if the UI receives an overhaul (not necessarily a bad thing, just managing expectations)

Thank you for your time!

[flint bloom]

1. anything the devs add is power creep at some level. they arent almost mandatory, since you can already cover that gap without them. but you arent going to get any spoilers on what else corrupting items is.

2. every season gets balance passes

3. every season gets perf upgrades

4. you are not going to get any spoilers here on what is coming multiple seasons down the way. if you want to give feedback on the UI, #feedback is the best place to put it (esp since Mike has said multiple times already that he is still gone from work and doesnt have any information to give anyways)

[valid siren]

1. Cool, didn't ask for spoilers tho
2. Cool
3. Cool
4. Cool, didn't ask for spoilers tho

[placid plinth]

I have no idea what has been shared about it so far. I see that you know the name of it. I can't tell you any more than what is already in the past. I should probably give that a read through today.

"Vacation" Mike is stuck in season 3.

[placid plinth]

Just in general, anything that is a question about what will happen is a request for spoilers if that info isn't shared already.

Eagles answers are good. To expand a little,

1. In general, we try to keep power creep reasonable but it is inevitable to make things more interesting. I'm not a big fan of seeing numbers with letters to describe them.

2. We always do them. If explicitly mentioned in S4 then the roadmap aesthetically becomes even more unbalanced as we are closer to S4 so we have more specifics locked in.

3. cool

4. I don't know more detailed about this. We always do it. They probably mentioned it because of PlayStation release so we need something more substantial to hit some requirement there. This is just a guess on my part.

5. A complete overhaul is not feasible at all. I don't know the scope of it but completely redoing it all would be crazy.

If you'd like to share feedback or make a suggestion for consideration, the way to get that seen by more than 1 programmer on vacation is to post it in #suggestions or #feedback .

[valid siren]

Thanks, this feels like an actual reply, rather than "stop asking for spoilers".
See you in S4!

[eternal zinc]

for how to give suggestions, is it necessary or not to give EHG reasons about why they want that?

[crude plover]

No you can say why you want something

That likely actually helps if it's something obscure that might not have an obvious reason at first glance

[carmine harness]

Mike I think you guys forgot something on the Road Map Where's the Barbarian!?

[valid marlin]

Roughly how many employees did EHG have when the game launched in February 2024, and how much has the company grown since then?

[drowsy spear]

Does carrion of creation convert pet applications of ailments too? For example would carrion convert the poison chance of my pets to bleed to skip the serpent milk penalty to poison?

[crude plover]

no

[gleaming kraken]

Will you add snother way to earn twich cosmetics or do reruns?

[placid plinth]

I mean, I have pretty repeatedly said that Barbarian isn't coming soooooo

like it might one day but we aren't working on it

[placid plinth]

I lost track a while ago and my memory of the timeline is so fuzzy. I'll guess and say slightly into triple digits and now a bit more into triple digits.

[valid marlin]

Yeah, I actually found some post Judd made in October 2023 that said "nearly 100"

[placid plinth]

ok, so I'm not far off

[carmine harness]

So what you're saying is its 100% coming got it

[placid plinth]

We have done re-runs for some in the past and it is on the table to do them again. I don't know which would happen first or when or anything like that.

[gleaming kraken]

Thanks

[buoyant bone]

Mike what’s your third favorite kind of soup to eat?

[placid plinth]

Butternut Squash

[buoyant bone]

W soup

[solar tiger]

Hello EHG,

The new release teaser got me excited after seeing planned updates to item filter.
What I always wanted was ability to also set filter to look for high affix value rolls within a particular affix tier.
Is something like this planned ?
#suggestions message

[placid plinth]

I can't remember the new filter rules that are being added. I know there are some good ones in the works though.

On a personal note, I think that there is some value in the filter not being perfectly able to show only exactly what you will pick up. I really like having that moment of seeing something drop that is probably good to picking it up and seeing just how good it is.

[solar tiger]

Fair,
Well, honestly the only time I wish for such a feature is when i sit and sift through 20 or so idols. For other items the 1-7 tier filtering is nice enough, but idols with its only one tier for rolls is ughhhhh
I love LE's item filter, it allows me to play the game and not read item affixes for hours, unlike some other ARPGs.

[placid plinth]

Oh yea, idols are definately the exception on this one.

[solar tiger]

As a personal use case:
As a player searching for good idols,
I care about affix value rolls before I care about affix types,
Because if rolls are high, then idol might be valuable no matter what type of affixes it has, as I can mix and match many idols.

[placid plinth]

Especially for MG

[fallen hatch]

When slamming, do the rolls get picked one by one or if let's say in a case of a 3lp item, 2 at once with 1 left? I mean the odds here, is it (2/3 * 1/2) = 1/3 or just 2/3 for a 3lp item?

[maiden brook]

Unless there was any system of biasing which affixes you get from a slam (there isn't) it'd be mathmatically the same whether they're picked sequentially or simultaneously.

[fallen hatch]

so we can say slamming a 2lp and 3lp is the same probability-wise?

[maiden brook]

Yes, 1/3 chance to get the affix you want on 2lp, 1/3rd to miss the affix you don't want on 3lp

[fallen hatch]

well wait actually no, if we're talking about MISSING an affix on 3lp it would be 1/3 * 1/2 if they were rolled one by one isn't that true? Man i've always been shit at probability

[maiden brook]

Missing the affix you don't want. You have an even chance of missing each of the 3 affixes, so missing any given one (in this case, the one you don't want on your item) has a 1/3rd chance

[fallen hatch]

well yes but if 2 out of 3 were rolled at once, if it's 1 by 1 it has probability of an affix i don't want to miss of (1/3 affixes * 1/2 affixes = 1/6), that's my issue and i'm nearly sure i'm right with those calculations

nah i'm giving up, gonna believe u cook and that's all edit: nevermind i figured it out, it's fkin 2*1/6 for the second option, that's what i was missing, sorry @maiden brook my bad lol

[crude plover]

for 2 lp the first is guaranteed, so the second has a 1/3 chance to transfer.
for 3lp, the first is guaranteed, the second has a 2/3 chance to transfer, and the third has a 1/2 chance to transfer. 2/3*1/2 = 2/6 = 1/3.

So they're the same.

And there's really no way to transfer them "at the same time". Nor would it matter, it's the same regardless. If it were "at the same time" you wouldn't do 2/3, you would do 3 choose 2, which gives 3 results, only 1 of which we want, thus 1 in 3 chance.

As in if I have affixes A, B and C. And I choose 2 (3lp, since the first is guaranteed), the possibilities are:
A B
A C
B C
And the odds of getting any one of them is equal, so if I want A B specifically it's a 1 in 3 chance.

[fallen hatch]

yeah we already figured it out with Cook i mean i needed to figure it out but fortunately did xd

[crude plover]

Please post suggestions in the #suggestions channel.

[verbal pine]

just two question regarding animation and overhauls if you can

1. does overhaul include the respective class masteries animations too? (eg. primalist/shaman/beastmaster/druid)

2. whats the difference between an animation overhaul and an update? (eg rogue/primalist)

[pine chasm]

Based on previous/similar answers (since Mike is away and can't spoil anything anyway):

1. Animations are done per-class, so yes, but not necessarily every animation is going to get changes.
2. Overhaul is on a larger scale than an update.

[verbal pine]

Thanks mate!

[placid plinth]

Good answer by toast. To expand a bit. We are doing things like splitting torso and legs and adding subtle things like leaning in the direction you are turning.

[verbal pine]

96 days till hype week!

[unkempt nacelle]

Would you expect the 30% conversion of added melee damage to spell damage that was teased for spellblade to work with the stat boosting effect of the primordial spear Harmony of the First? The wording is 'All stats on this item are increased' so I would think yes based on the wording. Wondering what the dev thought process is for questions like this. Obviously the design intent might not be technically feasible with edge cases like that.

[placid plinth]

No, I don't expect that to work. I expect it to only count the actual stats listed directly on the item which are worded "+x melee [optional element tag] damage". Harmony's stat line is a little misleading for edge cases. A more precise stat line would read: "You gain stats equal to x% of the stats on this item". This is a supervisor property which is calculated independently of normal stat calculations. It isn't actually technically increasing the stats on the item. Since weapons are stats sticks, the only practical difference is in edge cases which look at the stat values on your weapon.

You can test this in game with other effects which reference the added melee damage of your weapon.

Just to be clear though, I'm out of the office and I first read about that change in the devblog post and have no idea if it is implemented or not.

[fallen hemlock]

im using xithara's conudrum which gives more physical damage when full hp, i have health drain but im constantly getting to full from health from crits, the tooltip does have a difference when equipped/unequipped, is it actually measured correctly or is it like for a split second? (im playing heartseeker and constantly getting healed to full)

[crude plover]

Depends on exactly how you're getting health back, if it's purely from on-hit effects through instant health gain I'd suspect you're getting little to no benefit

[fallen hemlock]

yea makes sense cuz i never see my hp being actually max (its always like 1209/1211), only thing that confused me was the tooltip showing a difference

[placid plinth]

Health is a decimal. You are hitting max health for a frame.

[fallen hemlock]

so technically im getting that 40% increased physical damage if im in that 1209/1211 health range? or is that one frame just not worth

[crude plover]

No like if you have 20 health gained on hit/crit, and you're at let's say 1205/1211 hp, when your attack lands you gain hp and have 1211 hp for what I assume would be a single server (and maybe client) tick, and then you'd immediately go below max hp again which will most likely be before your next attack gets cast, meaning it doesn't gain the bonus.

[viral oasis]

How much would you need the average buyer of le to spend on mtx to keep the game running?

[tulip ivy]

What’s an average buyer is the question here.. I consider myself an average buyer and player.. that is spent once and never again.

That would give them 0 dollars spent on MTX

[crude plover]

Current average buyer != what the average buyer needs to be to keep the game running. As in you're answering a different question.

[tulip ivy]

Anyway I doubt Mike would know the answer to this question. And even if he did I doubt he would ever answer such a question. Sorry for getting in a conversation here..

[placid plinth]

Sorry, no idea. I don't have access to that type of information and I probably wouldn't be able to share it anyways.

[limber plume]

Any info will there might be a "midseason" event of some sort or reset? If you cannot answer, could you tell us have you considered it at least?

[crude plover]

They have considered it. Kain was talking about it in general a few days ago, gathering feedback regarding it

If you'd like to provide feedback/suggestions on how you think it should work and what it should include, please do so in the #feedback and #suggestions channels.

[sturdy ridge]

Will there be a stream tomorrow?

[placid plinth]

I assume so? The last schedule said there would be right? It won't be me, I'm still OOO.

[sturdy ridge]

Yeah , because last friday there wasnt. Thats why im asking. Would be cool right after the new roadmap info

[placid plinth]

Ah, that makes sense. Stepping into the line of fire is risky at best.

[marble socket]

Devstream today?

[flint bloom]

Again, this channel is not for continued messages back and forth between players. Feel free to use any other channel

[visual vault]

Hello devs,

Do you know why the same item doesnt have the same rotation in marchand shop for example? I noticed that.
One looks to the right and one looks to the left.
I can't upload image here, photo is on "ask community" room

[flint bloom]

you mean in the bazaar? items that are legitimately duped (like with rune of creation, or lightless arbor) have a flipped 3d art on their card

[visual vault]

Yes in the bazar, ok thanks for your answer 🙂

[placid plinth]

2D*

[flint bloom]

lol. oops

[eternal zinc]

🤔 Can I think EHG is confusing how to polish the game better since 1.0 so the team have get many achievements but made many mistakes too?
I want to know how Mike think.

[crude plover]

Could you try rewording the question? What are you asking exactly?

[eternal zinc]

General feelings for le's development since 1.0, based on things he has experienced

[placid plinth]

I don't really have anything interesting to say about this. We are better at developing games today than we were yesterday. As we gain experience from successes and failures, we refine the process and improve.

That's kinda just what happens though isn't it?

[dusty onyx]

Hello, would it be possible to have an option to decrease or remove visual effects?
I like playing Erasing Strike but the constant purple "flash" when using it gives me eye stains and I don't have eye issues, same for Judgement
Or maybe more darker visual effect skins

[eternal zinc]

No, you must have. They just be forgotten and you'll remember them one day.

[placid plinth]

This is one of the great balancing acts of the skill trees. Have the visuals be impressive and flashy enough to be exciting and cool while still leaving enough room for the ability to be expanded through the skill tree and items. Then the skill tree almost gets limited by the amount of visual noise budget is left in the skill.

This is something we actively are working on for some older skills that have had some new items come out for. Especially with the genetic increased area stats that have been added since a lot of abilities were initially added to the game.

Sometimes the skins fix this but that's not a total solution because we don't want to have an ability become visually functional through paying a fee.

[static birch]

Not once users (me included) have wished for some sort of a transparency slider option (from 100% to invisible) when it comes to skill visuals. This, among many other visual and accessibility related things we often ask for. The Unity run SoulStone survivors is a great example of a game introducing this in order to help users with a particularly messy screen full of skill effects. More often than not, reducing effects to the 20-40% zone still lets you see terrain and enemies telegraphing attacks without losing track of your own. At 0%, which is an option that definitely exists and helps beyond a certain absurdity of visual noise, it stops rendering and heavily replenishes performance

[merry abyss]

I think I might have asked this a year or so ago, but what are the plans for Spellblade builds becoming more viable? That mastery's state is kinda sad atm. I've been waiting for a Flame Rave build being viable for EVER 😭 It's been Shatter Strike only for as long as I have played the game since release.

What are the plans in general for unused skills and builds?

(By viable, I mean late end game viable, uber-viable. But the whole mastery is kinda jank in general)

[buoyant bone]

am not dev, the new roadmap talked about improving spellblade with a lot of trigger casted spells

[flint bloom]

Yeah like engi just said, we know we are getting SB love this patch in #news it wont have everything but we know they are working on it. You really wont get any more details here other than the last post

And the same thing goes for all the underused skills. They balance as much as they can every patch. If you have specific things with specific skills in mind use #feedback

[placid plinth]

Balancing dev time to implement features like this and new content is always a tough choice. Developing a system for this and converting every VFX to function with it would eat into new skills, cosmetic VFX and enemies so heavily that if we dropped everything else and did it as fast as possible it would mean nothing in those categories for at least a year. This is obviously not the way we would do it but if we go extreme the other way and have one junior VFX artist doing it slowly, that's a few year project.

I guess what I'm saying is that it's a sweet idea and it seems like you can just turn some universal VFX opacity slider but it's nowhere near that easy to get set up.

[static birch]

If i could pinpoint a main offender to performance and visual noise, i would say its the way lighting works, how it reflects and washes its surroundings. Lighting rich builds like the frost-claw-nova one that spawns tons of elemental novas is like a prime example of how dramatically performance drops with cast speed. Just the ability to reduce the visual effect and potency of lighting off such sources would be a dramatic improvement

[rotund wolf]

last season i had an issue in cemeteries and tombs. they were so packed with mob density and visual effects that i absolutely could not see anything that was happening. it was a mish mosh of effects that removed any useful information, like buffs, telegraphed attacks or literally where my character was standing

[placid plinth]

You can put it in #suggestions if you want and they might consider it. I'm just letting you know why it's not going to happen quickly. Even just all the lightning effects is still a few thousand effects. And doing it for one thing automatically provides an expectation that we are going to do it for all, you know...because of the favoritism.

[placid plinth]

Good stuff to put in #feedback for sure. Personally I like having variety for things like this. Select zones of chaos are fun to opt into.

[final cave]

In his interview with Tri, JR was saying opacity sliders in PoE would lead to worse performance because you don't get as much dynamic culling. Is there any reason it would be different for LE Mike?

[crude plover]

Do we even have dynamic culling in LE?

[rotund wolf]

if something was totally transparent it wouldn't need to be culled...

[crude plover]

That's not always true

Culling something means you don't render it at all usually, something that's 100% transparant could still be rendered. But regardless the setting wouldn't be to make your skills and effects 100% transparent but maybe 50% or something so it's easier to see.

[placid plinth]

From what I understand from talking to the tech artists, yes it would result in worse performance.

[placid plinth]

Yes

[crude plover]

Oh neat I've never noticed it

[placid plinth]

That means it's working right.

[crude plover]

True dat

[maiden brook]

is there an intended purpose behind the tomb guardians in regular tombs/cemetaries? it seems odd to me that there's a unique once per instance enemy that just... doesn't seem to do anything

[placid plinth]

I think they are a little under hit pointed. But the purpose is supposed to be a final challenge at the end of the tomb and a guaranteed unique drop to be able to farm those new uniques that were added with them. Since you can't control which unique you get before you start, it's more like 1/[total pool] per instance.

[primal girder]

They may be referring to the mob called "Tomb Guardian", not Clothos and her ilk. I know one (a couple?) of the woven echoes you have to kill one before entering the cemetery

[fallen hatch]

What's the ratio of Golden:Obsidian resonances one should get with a player? Because we were farming with a friend and got the obsidian after FOURTEEN golden ones, no need to say we felt quite discouraged by that, it's like twice too much

[placid plinth]

I don't know what the ratio is. The Golden ones are kinda useless though.

[fallen hatch]

i understand but it's more about how often they should drop because well we were farming for like 6 hours straight or even 8 for a single obsidian, idk if it's an outlier but it's really worrying

[placid plinth]

Yea, I agree, pop it in #feedback

[fallen hatch]

will do my man, thanks and have a nice whatever it is in your timezone 😄

[digital moth]

i heard that amber drop rates were nerfed in season 3. what was the % nerf like? was it nerfed by 50% or more?

[void solar]

Huh I'm not aware of that. There's also a Memory Amber bag you can get from the Skarven Bloodhorn NPC

[digital moth]

in season two, i was swimming in amber and could afford to re-roll class idols and buy woven echoes constantly. now, im burning through my legacy stockpile and im getting less than 300 amber per tomb at 800+ corruption. it would take me more than 10 tombs to afford one copy of Unclaimed Troves (3000 amber). people told me the drop rate was nerfed for season 3

[half crescent]

imprint rampant coast 2x and farm at 300+c and you'll have enough bones for unlimited amber.

[digital moth]

uh...not sure how that works. how many bones do you get from one rampant coast like that and can you even trigger it frequently via imprints to get unlimited amber? i imprinted 2x unclaimed troves and it doesnt trigger very often for me, usually once per natural shade reset (pathing far enough away from the center)

[leaden iron]

rampant coast triggers so often it gets annoying

[void solar]

Yeah, with how much Memory Amber it costs to purchase, I feel like the Imprint proc rate should be lower than what it is

[half crescent]

rampant is "bugged" right now and appears ALOT

[half crescent]

rampant triggers for me 10-15 times per mono run, which is about 10-15k bones

[digital moth]

huh, thats interesting

[fervent girder]

You should imprint rampant coast ASAP (far better than imprint any other woven echo) thats is the best and most efficient way to get amber, plus materials, bones,also take the gold nodes with zerrick in weaver tree and gold blessing.

[digital moth]

to be fair, thats only because its bugged atm. i really only need amber i think because this is a legacy character

[fervent girder]

Doesn't matter either a feature or bugged should be used because its best imprint i only play legacy as well its the best and realistically only way to obtain amber reliably and at the same time primordial items

[tall kettle]

I put a forum request in for this ages ago asking for either a sliding bar in settings/box to tick to turn off. Some of the builds with the effects such as swarmblade who procs totems on hit + tornados make the game horrible to play even with a monster PC due to the lag + the fact you can't see wtf you're hitting, lmao. People who like effects can leave them maxed, those who don't can decrease like terrain/shadow effects etc. Would be really nice to have, eventually.

[sturdy ridge]

The servers are down D: ( Stuck on loading screen )

They are back online ( that was weird for a sec )

[heady onyx]

Do zombies resurrected with Cycle of Putrescence keep the bonus damage from Profane Veil's Apocalypse node, or are they considered a "new" zombie altogether?

[crude plover]

New

[ruby marlin]

The game is excellent overall. However, as someone on the autism spectrum, the lack of an instant NPC dialogue text option significantly impacts my accessibility and immersion. Has this feature been implemented yet?

[flint bloom]

kinda. you can click and skip thru dialog if you want want to read it. but there isnt a finish typing instantly but not skip to the next box. you can throw it in #suggestions if you like

[vernal orchid]

Future leagues will be also like 1 year league or at some point we will get one league per 2-3 months?

[long merlin]

you know the answer... why even ask it, like if anyone would really aim for 1year leagues?

3-4 months dude
(developement and other genre's titles may interfere in their release schedule)

[vernal orchid]

It happened so can happen again. I understand you are silly lil one wanting some attention due to insecurities, but no one asked your opinion. 😌 Its question for devs or for official information whats planned. Not emotional prediction of what someone with clown on av want

[long merlin]

S2 was released in April
S3 was released in august

That is roughly a 4+ month release gap.
It is obviously, that the release of S4 will have huge delay, if it comes out in march, so this will be a 7 month season...

Judd himself said, they are aiming for a reduction of time in between season and Mike in his weekly streams also said they are aiming for a 4-3 months release cycles if quality and content are fine and do not correlate with the release of other titles.
That said, you have a clear perspective, though releases may happen later due to some reasons.

And as a side note....
Try to behave in a better way. You had some very "remarkable" posts in the past here.
If you want someone to treat you well, start with your attitude and reflect some words you wrote in here before.

[placid plinth]

The 9 month league was very regrettable. I don't remember the 1 year league though which was that?

The ideal timeline is still 3-4 months. You are right that we have been pretty unsuccessful at consistently hitting it. And when we have [hit timing goals], the quantity of content has been much maligned by the community. We are still working to improve on all the main axis, speed, quantity, consistency and quality.

[eternal zinc]

And when we have, the quantity of content has been much maligned by the community.

?... Isn't overwhelming positive reviews flooded in 1.2? Lots of people enjoy melee, so sentinel rework is a big success 🤔

But it cause most players to play paladin/void knight only too

[hollow agate]

With 4 seasons between 1.0 release February 21th 2024 and the 4th season coming the 26 march 2026 it is a 25/4= 6 months and a week long season on average.

Not close to a year in average even though, it totally felt like it because you enjoyed playing the game very much.

[tulip ivy]

1.2 was 9 months after 1.1.. that’s why everything was positive

[fervent girder]

Will someday technology like dlls nvidia or fSR come to last epoch for performance improvements?

[digital moth]

didnt they mention that here: https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1348649727050121256

[fervent girder]

Should be implemented someday have to play at lower resolution or gamr lags too much even though got a new pc

[placid plinth]

The game is currently cpu bound so unless a system has a significantly more powerful cpu than GPU, reducing the resolution will rarely do much to gain frames.

You can always add to #suggestions if you'd like to see something added though.

[crude plover]

Igpu gamers unite

[night quartz]

why is the game not pause-able in online even though you're playing SAF or CF?

[placid plinth]

Short version is just that we don't have the tech.

Creating the technology to have it be pausable isn't dependent on being alone. It does certainly make things a little easier if we can guarantee you are alone with a setting like that.

Offline pause is very simple, it just says the time scale of the game to 0. It's just about the most basic way to do it. What this does is make everything that runs off of a timer to just stop.

In online, even if the action is paused, we still need a lot of other things to function while the game is paused. Most notably, we still need chat and social functions to still run.

It's not impossible, it's just a very significant task and would mean not making some other feature or set of other features instead. I hope we build it someday but I don't know.

Quick aside, CoF has nothing to do with being alone. You can play CoF with any other player, including MG players.

[digital moth]

cant EHG do the same thing diablo 3 did and pause when a player brings up the ESC menu or something like that, where everything is disabled? so you cant chat while the menu is up, but the game is paused and you can take a phone call during a boss fight or something. diablo 3 is online only but pauses when if you are the only one in the game and you press ESC. i cant remember if you can chat in diablo 3 while the ESC menu is open, but you can just disable that for last epoch if its too hard to do

[crude plover]

They would like to add a pause function but it's often way harder than it might seem when it's not something you built the game around from the getgo

[digital moth]

sure, but they said the problem is making sure chat and social functions run while paused. they could just make them not run while paused? the important thing is that players can pause the game when IRL stuff happens when they are playing online, i dont think people would care a lot that they cant chat while paused

[crude plover]

There's no "pausing" the social functions magic button, that's the entire issue basically. They'd need to develop a way to pause them, which presumably they weren't built with that functionality in mind

[digital moth]

either dont pause it or let it run, i dont see why thats a problem. the goal is to pause the fighting, not the social functions

[placid plinth]

The problem is that the trivial way to pause is to pause absolutely everything and certain things being paused in online mode will result in the game just crashing.

[digital moth]

i see, thanks for the explanation

i noticed that some woven echoes seem to be "special" and cannot be modified in any way. e.g. lostwood folly does not add weaver mobs to them. tombs and rift beasts cannot spawn in them either, and some do not allow nemesis to spawn either. is there any way to identify which woven echoes are "special" and cannot be modified?

Vault of the Barnacle King seems like a good example, you cannot add mobs to it via lostwood folly and the caches in the map seem to be a special kind of cache, i dont think it can trigger the "Sealed Riches" imprint when opening them, but i may be wrong.

[fervent girder]

It can proc sealed riches cause it has happened for me before I believe,now if the lizards there were actually balanced and didn't do way too much overturned damage then could be a decent farm echo together with troves.

[dense sphinx]

Just got the game, so far im enjoying it alot.
Are more classes potentially coming to the game or is it just gonna be these 5 and their 3 mastery classes?
Apologies if this been asked alot

[buoyant bone]

am not dev, but EHG has announced that a paradox class will be releasing when the first expansion comes out (in like a year)

#news message <- one of the news/announcements that mentions the paradox class

#news message <- this one has a lot more info

[jaunty dune]

maybe too early to ask since season 4 is so far away but... will rune of corruption require forging potential to be used? I know that it sets the FP to 0 if it has any but can it be used on an item with 0 fp?

[flint bloom]

again, please stop having conversations here unless you can link a dev answer or have an actual answer. speculation just burries the actual question

[rotund wolf]

fallout 4 is also cpu bound because it only allows for the utilization of a single core. modders have been working to overcome it since the game released, and one of the most effective mods for that is called Shadowboost. basically shadows eat a huge amount of cpu resources, and Shadowboost dynamically adjusts shadow length when hitting fps breakpoints. to the point of turning them completely off. dunno if LE is similar to that but just a thought

[placid plinth]

I'm not intimately involved with the issue myself so I don't know the main causes. I know that I've been told to make every tiny micro optimization I can when writing code for skills functionality. I think that shadows aren't the cause because you can turn those off and it doesn't solve the issue.

[placid plinth]

Technically not back until the new year

[maiden brook]

Yeah but we can't spell out "he cant stay away" in emotes

[rotund wolf]

this game always chugs when there are a huge amount of objects to be rendered on screen which is a common cpu issue. doesn't matter their quality, eventually the sheer quantity will choke any cpu. i'd be curious what happens when you cull absolutely every effect and object on screen that isn't critical for gameplay, even environmental doodads like shrubs.

not trying to do your job from the back seat btw, you know what you're doing, just adding my two cents 😸

[placid plinth]

I am familiar enough with it to say that it is coming from scripts associated with gameplay objects that have gameplay effects. I say this because of how multiplayer runs and some of the headless testing we've done.

[worthy stump]

What is headless testing?

[placid plinth]

Servers don't have any graphical output, just the game logic running. It's probably not the right term. But basically just monitoring what's going on with the servers.

[worthy stump]

Ah so instead of actually testing stuff manually just looking at metrics?

[placid plinth]

Yea, the profiler can tell you which things are taking how much time per frame. You can pause the game and look at what used time in the frame and how much it used. It's really cool actually.

[solid plinth]

Why the negative reviews. Is the game done?

[coral moss]

Game is not done as far as we know. And we should expect to be getting atleast a season 4 and 5 + expansion given the roadmap.

But as for why negative reviews here is a summary.

1. Company was bought up by Krafton wich has extra bad reputation because of the Subnautica 2 situation, and how it might affect EHG and Last Epoch.
2. There was a kickstarter promise for game to be one time purchase with only cosmetics being purchasable. Which has not worked out economically for EHG and we will now get paid paradox classes. That made alot of people worried about it being pay to win.
3. The 4th season comes out significatly later than what players hoped for given the mentioned 3-4 month seasons, with season 4 now comming out after ish 7 months. But benefit going forward should be that it should no longer clash with path of exile releases given more talks with their company.

[eternal zinc]

No question. Happy new year, Mike.

[sturdy ridge]

Umm , are the servers ok?

[lament tulip]

Apparently to alot of people a promise can never be broken, yet they'll forgive other companies and such who do break promises, it's disgusting really.

[rotund wolf]

a lot of people don't know how real life works and that shit happens that's out of your control. it's easy to say "you should have done it this way", but no one knows EHG's situation except them. also people get waaaay too hyperfocused and form a lynch mob, like go outside and get some fresh air. it's just a game

this isn't Bethesda or EA who have total financial freedom and still make greedy anticonsumer decisions, it's a very small team who are trying their best. people treat EHG like they're sitting in a board room evilly cackling at all the money they'll be rolling in, they're just trying to get by, and they don't like the situation anymore than the players do

[tender geode]

I feel like I might be beating a dead wolf and maybe I can't get an answer, but is there any chance the bug with Summon Wolf will be fixed any time soon?

[tall kettle]

I found turning off AA ingame and in vid card settings for LE significantly improved framerate and smoothness - others who tried it said the same just an fyi if you're struggling for fps

[tulip ivy]

You will not get an answer regarding bugs in this channel.. #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs is the name. No bugs is in the name…

[tender geode]

Well, can't get an answer anywhere else so I figured I'd give it a shot.

Not a big deal. I'll just keep jumping through those flaming hoops 👍

[tall kettle]

Cross your fingers bro there are still bugs from well over a year in the game, there are just things beyond the current staff's ability to fix 😢

[fervent girder]

I found the problem its fixed ty

[worthy stump]

Make sure to report it ingame

[tender geode]

I've officially reported it multiple times.

[placid plinth]

There are a couple summon wolf bugs that get reported frequently which are working as intended. I'm not sure which interaction you're referencing.

The interaction with quantity of wolves is very unintuitive at the moment but as far as I know, it is functioning currently.

[spare epoch]

I'm not sure how the permanent bond issue isn't considered a bug one way or another. If you mean for it to not allow you to summon more wolves individually, then it's bugged because if I have no other minions, I can click the companion ability and summon normally. If it's meant to allow you to summon wolves along with other minions, then it's bugged. If I take permanent bond and equip a bee idol for example, the companion ability changes to howl until I deequip the bee idol and they're all gone

[crude plover]

The wolves disappearing when you equip/unequip certain items is intentional as an anti snapshot measure.

You can't really mix and match multiples of several companions since companion skills always summon up to their maximum when you press the skill initially. Meaning usually either you summon one companion or up to your companion limit.

Maybe I misunderstood what you meant in the first part about summoning wolves alongside other "minions", if so feel free to clarify by pinging me in #❔┃ask-the-community

[delicate osprey]

Dev stream today mike?

[fleet galleon]

#news message
No

[tender geode]

I was under the impression the alleged bug was acknowledged here some time ago. I'll reiterate as briefly as I can: With the Perm Bond node taken, I get a default wolf. With The Claw or The Fang I can summon wolves up to my companion limit. With Tyrant's Skull equipped, I can't. I have to unequip it, then re-equip after summoning wolves but any points I put into any node or passive that impacts wolves, or if I change zones, unsummons all but one (or sometimes 2). I can get them all back by unequipping the Skull. If I have, say, 6 Wolves, I can summon any other companions which reduces wolves by that number (which is normal). If I have any other companion skill on the hotbar and I lose wolves (other than death), I also have to remove it to re-summon wolves. Then I can put the other companion skill(s) back and summon normally. Sorry, that wasn't brief but there's no other way to explain it all. That can't be as intended or maybe tell me which part or parts are working as intended.

[placid plinth]

Yea that's right, those items don't synergize nicely.

I don't think it's even a factor of tyrant skull in particular. I'm pretty sure it's just the skill level of wolf changing which causes the wolves to be unsummoned.

So it's the claw and permanent bond that don't synergize well. Which is expected.

[spare epoch]

It doesn't have to be something that changes the skill level of wolves, I don't think them being unsummoned is even the issue, is that the companion ability changes to Howl after Permanent Bond summons one wolf and prevents you from summoning more. It only happens when another minion (including non-companions like totems) is active. IE, a warcry totem or Frenzy totem causes the companion ability to change from Summon Wolves to Howl until it goes away. You could summon any other companion if you wanted to, just not more wolves.

[tender geode]

I ran a few scenarios.

1. Took a Lightning Wolves build.
2. Re-spec'd Summon Wolf and did not take Permanent Bond or Pack Hunters, and wearing The Fang. Was able to summon 4 wolves.
3. When I changed zones, 3 of them went poof. Re-summoned easily and got 3 wolves back.
4. Equipping Artor's Legacy gave me 5 wolves. Still lose all but 1 wolf changing zones or putting a point into a wolf-related skill. The other 4 re-summoned with no flaming hoops through which to jump.
5. All the above without PB, Tyrant's Skull, or another companion type.
6. Summoning a tiger reduces wolves to 4. Changing zones reduces to 1 wolf and 1 tiger. Resummoning wolves easy.
7. Equipped Tyrant’s Skull (TS). Changed zones, lost all wolves save 1 as before. Able to resummon 3 wolves for 4 total. Minor inconvenience.
8. Took Pack Hunters. Now I don’t lose wolves when changing zones or putting a point in anything wolf-related.

So the “solution” is NOT take Perm Bond unless you intend to go with a Highlander build, though you can still get multiple wolves (plus any other companion) but flaming hoops required. Best part is TS can now be equipped and any +x to minion skills used without losing wolves. Still some odd things happening in certain scenarios. I’d be happy to re-post this in known-issues-and-bugs if you think it’ll help.

[digital moth]

maybe changing zones shouldnt delete companions/minions like that?

[placid plinth]

I'm sorry for engaging in a discussion about bugs here. That's my bad. Please only use the in game bug reporting tool to report them. I'm not on bug fixing any more and the way I report bugs is by opening the game client and using the tool.

I know it seems like a place where a person replies has to be the more effective place to communicate something like this but I promise it is not.

[eternal zinc]

🤔 I thought the way of EHG members to report bugs are communicate with QA directly (leave a message) or email them... Am I wrong?!

A bit hard to imagine all people use the same way.

[tulip ivy]

That’s one of the ways. Best way is to use the in game bug reporting tool since it adds your logs which helps them immensely. It also probably shows which of the reports are not actually bugs…

[worldly marten]

what domain do i ping to check my connection to in-game chat? in-game chat works only with a vpn for me, so i was gonna try and fix it without buying a vpn :(
Yes, russia, almost china novadays

[worldly marten]

holy delay

[final cave]

!support

[fiery lily]

Anything we can help with? We've support articles and a contact form at https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[placid plinth]

I'm officially back in the office. Feeling fresh and ready to make some cool new stuff.

[flint bloom]

yoooooo welcome back! how was 'vacation'?

[placid plinth]

ironically exhausting but completely expected

[eternal zinc]

do you want more holiday to relax?

[placid plinth]

probably not

[sturdy ridge]

Mike , you strimming friday?

[placid plinth]

Back to regularly scheduled programming

[sturdy ridge]

Woot

[placid siren]

its 2026 WHERE IS THE ARACHNOPHOBIA MODE! WE HAVE BEEN ASKING

[static birch]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[placid plinth]

I seriously doubt it wil happen in 2026, much to the disappointment of a few key people who are very arachnophobic.

[jaunty dune]

👀 now that mike is back

[cunning coral]

Seeing that this game is made in Unity, am I accurate in assuming y'all use C#?

I am watching the .net 10 performance gains and it's actually quite amazing. Do you think this translates to tangible gains for the players?

[pine chasm]

Right, they do primarily use C#.

If it does, probably not for a (long) while. Unity itself is behind in .NET and C# versions, and then Last Epoch is (somewhat intentionally afaik) behind in Unity versions.

[cunning coral]

Damn, Even .net 9 boasts quite good improvements. .net 10 is a. absolute beast, though

[cunning coral]

Looking at Unity itself (the support page), even if the team uses the latest unity version, it only supports .net framework 4.8 and .net standard 2.1 😢
I'm definitely sad about that one. .NET Conf showcased some amazing gains to be had, but hey, if Unity doesn't think they need to support it, they probably won't.
EDIT: Nevermind, saw a Unity forum post/reddit post that they're migrating into .net core and it's just a massive undertaking

I know this is an ask the dev chat. Just wanted to round out the conversation before I leave the topic.

[placid plinth]

We are using Unity 6.0 so only a little behind the current 6.3 but yea, not up to .net 10 at all.

[placid plinth]

yes, you can use a rune of corruption on an item with 0 forging potential

[night quartz]

What’s the base speed of Druid form rampage? (No skills nodes)
I can’t find any information that would indicate it’s different from your movement speed, but it doesn’t ”feel” like it’s the same.

[placid plinth]

I don't think it affects your move speed at base

[pine dome]

Oo
You are faster when you rampage

[night quartz]

= you’re moving across the map at the same speed as before you started rampage, but the change in animation makes it seem as if you’ve changed traversal speed?

[placid plinth]

Well I looked a little deeper and I can't find where it is setting the movespeed increase but it definately exists. From some very rough testing, it appears that you go approximately 50% faster than base running speed. I think it has to be a fixed speed though as your character's movement speed stat is being affected.

[tough seal]

Warning: Steam failed to synchronize Last Epoch saves with Steam Cloud. Has anyone else gotten this error? I can’t enter the game.

[crude plover]

Should just be able to tell it to play anyway. Unless you play offline this has no consequences

Otherwise restart steam, usually fixes it

[placid plinth]

Yes, it's a Steam error that can happen with any game. It doesn't really have anything to do with LE specifically and more just means that your local files didn't sync. If you're playing online the worst this could do is make your game settings revert. Otherwise, you might want to backup your offline saves before forcing a continue.

If you need help, you can always contact support.

[tough seal]

i did already.The game won’t launch at all

[placid plinth]

!support

[fiery lily]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[crude plover]

Was steam maintenance, classic

[placid plinth]

I always forget to check for Tuesday

[crude plover]

Same lol

[placid plinth]

I feel less bad for basically saying it's not our fault now.

[eternal zinc]

While you had a conversation about how to make an ARPG together with Judd for the 1st time, did you get a full fire in EHG directly, or did you accept a short period of trial (testing) at first, Mike?

[placid plinth]

When I started, EHG didn't exist yet. I'm not even sure that the name Last Epoch was solidified yet. I was invited to come hang out and chat about it but they weren't hiring anyone. Nobody was paid at all at that time.

I found the post, Judd told me: "I feel that we may be at capacity in terms of developers but let's chat. "

[eternal zinc]

Oh...So the way you're in EHG is Judd invited you to the team through the reddit chat after he got funded from kickstarter?

[placid plinth]

KS was over a year later

https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2/comments/6qr9mk/creating_a_arpg_skill_system_planning/

That's the first contact I had with Judd

[eternal zinc]

I wonder what happened after you had the 1st chat with Judd on reddit.

[placid plinth]

I joined the old discord and started hanging out with the team and eventually they offered to have me start contributing. About 2 years later I was hired as staff.

[eternal zinc]

Oh you're joined in EHG in 2019... 2 years later.

Thanks.

[placid plinth]

well kinda, technically I was hired as a paid independent contractor 2 years later but I was part of the founding group that formed the company EHG the weekend that we filmed the kickstarter video.

[eternal zinc]

It's why it looks odd...

You joined the film work as part of EHG members but you're not the member of EHG.

[placid plinth]

sorry, I don't understand what that means at all

[eternal zinc]

le T-shirt on your body, you're one of persons appeared in the introduction video on kickstarter (you're joined in introduction of gameplay), you're a member of their community, but you're not a member in EHG while 2018, le seeking the fund on kickstarter.

[crude plover]

Think they mean how in the trailer you're featured as a "core developer" which would maybe make it seem like you're an employee at the company but you were still an independent contractor at the time. Not sure why it's of any relevance though

[eternal zinc]

Oh... I see why Mike is confused. I thought a paid indenpendent contractor = he joined EHG

?...Wait.

I'm into the chaos too lol
Mike is paid as a paid independent contractor 2 years later, it's 2019. But the video on kickstarter was filmed before 2019 🤔

yes how to define "2 years later" in "technically I was hired as a paid independent contractor 2 years later" is the key

But the first chat was in 2017. 2 years later is 2019. Kickstarter is 2018. It's make sense?

[eternal zinc]

ok both of me and Mike isn't wrong on understanding.
For the time Mike start to be a EHG member, I thought a paid indenpendent contractor = he joined EHG because 2019 is the year he get paid.
Mike thought he's one of EHG team since he joined in le's server and hang out with another people.

Just different defination of when Mike joined EHG.

My angle is Is he get paid + Is EHG count as a company, Mike's angle is when he knew Judd and joined in development.

[placid plinth]

Here is a timeline of my personal onboarding to EHG with some significant milestones.

Q2 2017 - Unnamed ARPG project begins.
Aug 1st, 2017 - Mike has first contact with Judd on Reddit and is invited to join discord to chat.
Q3 2017 - Mike starts contributing to the ARPG project.
Q2 2018 - EHG is officially registered as a company.
April 18th, 2018 - Kickstarter launches
Q1 2019 - Mike becomes an independent contractor for EHG.

So depending on how you define "joined EHG", that either happened in Q2 2018 or Q1 2019.

[eternal zinc]

A new topic. Did the concept or what they want to do for bloodknight come true in the current masteries? Which one inherits and polish features of bloodknight if so?

Context #❔┃ask-the-community message

[placid plinth]

that is so incredibly old that it was way way way before any semblance of what you see today was taking shape. Bloodknight was never really heavily conceptualized past a name and that screenshot represents the total progress of it.

[primal girder]

Mike trying to pull a fast one so we don't realize Bloodknight will be the next mastery and not Barbarian. I'm onto you... 😅

[placid plinth]

I don't know how many times I've denied Barbarian.

[sonic saddle]

I might be blind but have you considered doing a build showcase of the month
/fortnight or anything similar?

[placid plinth]

we include one in our monthly recap posts
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/eterra-monthly-nov-edition-2025/80200

[dark phoenix]

I like these ideas: It be approachable for new players
Gear should be able to improve skills in an easy to digest way (+ to skills is hard to top)
It can have skill tree like elements but can't just be "a skill tree"
You should feel attached to your build and it should not be freely adjustable like Diablo 3
Less open than Diablo 3, Less intimidating than Path of Exile, more pizzazz than D2/Grim Dawn
keep them up!

[hollow agate]

Your denial is too vehement; it's suspicious. You wouldn't deny it so strongly if there were nothing to hide.
Conclusion : Barbarian is a mastery of Paradox

[verbal pine]

any idea when the new eterra monthly dropping? need my fix

[low summit]

Very very soon. Studio shut down got my time schedule all out of whack but it's nearly done. 🙂

[placid plinth]

cmon man, "all out of wick" was right there

[static birch]

"...and im allll out of Wick"

[low summit]

I'll save it for next time

[sinful nacelle]

Question about the buying items from Skarven Bloodhorn the primal vender, Does the quality of the item or the LP that it could have depend on your level when you buy it?
Or does using the vender in a corruption 300 echo (Or higher) help to get the item we buy to have LP?

[pine chasm]

No, but the CoF double LP chance bonus does apply.

[vital shard]

stream this evening?

[placid plinth]

We are back to regularly scheduled streams.

[eternal zinc]

Grab a awaked Mike successfully.

[verbal pine]

finally i get my le teaser fix!

[plucky osprey]

excited for what's in store!

[vital shard]

can't wait for these 3 months to pass like it is just 1 week 😄

[placid plinth]

I make no promises but I'm going to bat on it each week.

[alpine hull]

Heard you needed a fix.. #eterra-monthly message

[verbal pine]

love you!

[crude plover]

Did you go live for a second Mike? 😅

[placid plinth]

did some test stream action to get ready for the real thing. good thing too, found some issues

[crude plover]

Thought for a second I had missed the stream or something but then looked at the time lol

[sturdy ridge]

Hey guys , will there be teasers today 👀 ?

[sturdy ridge]

I really hope there is teasers today. It will be a great start for the new year

[sturdy ridge]

Just curious , in the S3 trailer where it says necro minion changes to skeleton and abom , what was going to be the change to skeletons if it was going to be in S3?

[plucky osprey]

This isn't really a question but more of a positive post, but I pray that the entire EHG team finds success for LE, not just for the present but for the long term future.

I'm relatively new to LE still, but I'm so impressed by how much is in the game, and how down to earth the team is, pertaining to live streams that I truly hope EHG rides on the momentum. May you all continue to foster a healthy community, generate the right amount of hype with the right creators who will advocate for your game, and maintain a consistent cadence for all of your releases!

All the best EHG!

[placid plinth]

Well that is certainly very nice to hear. Thank you and I'm glad you're enjoying the game.

[placid plinth]

I don't think we had the specifics settled on yet. I think that's probably part of why it didn't make it in as a major feature.

[sturdy ridge]

Will it be implemented in S4 or S5?

[placid plinth]

I don't have any additional details about upcoming content available.

[digital heart]

This is probably a stupid idea, but i'm going to ask anyways: since the DLC is so controversial, would ya'll consider to give (at least) the last 2 acts of Orobyss for free (not saying the classes or expansion ect) for the people who have already invested/payed for the game prior? So that way people don't complain about not having a completed campaign and needing to pay extra to get the base game's completed story? Obviously this is just a third party asking a very specific question without criticizing, but I thought maybe it'd be a decent, happy medium. If not, obviously that's what i'd assume, but just trying to put that idea out there

and maybe include the new class within the dlc to replace what was already lost in transit? Hopefully this makes sense to anyone other than me. XD thank ya'll again for the game, still going to support no matter what

[pine chasm]

It is already coming for free fyi, only the new class is paywalled.

[digital heart]

okay thats cool, then people should ignore my ignorant question XD

[plucky osprey]

After spending some time with the woven mechanic & cemeteries, will we see more added in terms of features to add more depth to it? I'm really enjoying it a lot but feel like the cemeteries just need something extra for value.

I do like being able to buff my idols but will there be other methods added for other pieces of equipment in the future?

[flint bloom]

https://discordapp.com/channels/368953963267096586/414298693257265155/1459386968311075132

you will not get spoilers here for upcoming content.

HOWEVER if you want to send that suggestion to the devs, the best place is in #suggestions or #feedback so that it gets pulled and sent to the proper devs.

[plucky osprey]

Oh my apologies! I'll definitely refer to the suggestions channel!

[wicked orchid]

Who actually dreamt up the whole style of this game with regards to its Era time travelling and the black hole void abyss protruding into it? I really do love the style of it a lot and am generally terrible with names and don't believe in idolatry but I do enjoy this style a lot and it made me wonder, who actually dreamt this game up? I get that there are a lot of devs, and everyone that has ever worked on it has contributed to how cool the entire game is as a whole. But I do think it is very cool, even a lot of the uniques are very cool styles I think. I just looted this Event Horizon and it was enjoyable reading it and thinking about how cool it could be on a random thematic build of some type. But it generally made me wonder, is it a big team effort? I know I could research it probably but I am not great at that so just asking works better for me usually. Props to everyone for making such a cool game though. I am really excited that I think I heard you say the next chapter or expansion or whatever is going to be called Orobyss which gets me pretty excited too as I think he is good Villain I like him a lot and can't wait to see what that is all about.

[eternal zinc]

Oh Mike is online. Time to move around and delete that

[placid plinth]

The initial story nugget and primary world building came from our Loremaster Kyle. In the early days of the project we would all get in voice chat and listening to story time from Kyle. I've had him on as a special guest for streams a few times now and I plan on getting him on again sometime this spring (maybe summer).

There are a lot of elements that were thought up by other people to fit into the world so it has become very collaborative with creative efforts spreading out but Kyle is still steering the story ship.

[sturdy ridge]

You guys need to build the hype towards March 14 because there is only 7 fridays left where you can hype it.

Prior to the 2nd roadmap and the teasers that you have shown already , there wasnt much to get excited on.

Then when the second roadmap came , we got excited for the season but we want that momentum from the 2nd roadmap to continue and not fizzle out.

Please devs , for the new year.

[placid plinth]

I think the expectations of the dev stream has warped recently. I'm not sure when it happened but I have never really come armed with info to share. It's a Q&A stream. Maybe it has run its course. We will start sharing new info for season 4 as we get closer to it.

[sturdy ridge]

I mean in S1 and 2 you have been sharing a lot of threshold nodes for characters as well as uniques sometimes with their full effects

[placid plinth]

Also, am I counting the weeks wrong? Aren't there 9 dev streams left before the info is out?

[placid plinth]

But I don't think I had much of anything at 10 weeks out right?

[sturdy ridge]

We miss when you shown us thresold nodes and uniques with their full effects.

On a side note , will there also be a press tour like you did back in S2?

[placid plinth]

I'm not sure

[flint bloom]

we've also gotten a very large forum post about s4 that was waaaaay ahead of anything we have gotten before

that by itself had enough spoilers for all the dev streams from now until march

[sturdy ridge]

You have to continue the momentum up till release

[flint bloom]

you just arent keeping hype up for over two months. not possible. there isnt that much information to give out

we've gotten more info on s4 earlier than ever before. and now yall just gotta chill n wait.

[sturdy ridge]

The marketing is not very good imo and we have been saying this since launch of 1.0

[crude plover]

Please express feedback in the #feedback channel, this isn't the place for that

[sturdy ridge]

Grim Dawn has been hyping up their new season every month

[sturdy ridge]

I posted it in feedback

[eternal zinc]

Did EHG get 800k US dollars through sold le's copies last year and 2024?

I want to know where can I get the answer if there's not the right place

[hollow agate]

It is said that they sold more than 3 million copies of the game, 30$ each and probably around half of the total amount is taken by tax, unity or steam, maybe more. So more likely around 45millions dollars for EHG. And this is not taking supporter pack and mtx into account.
Your amount seems very very low.
I doubt Mike can share this kind of info anyway. And I don't think there is a place, you could find the real answer.

[eternal zinc]

🤔
Maybe I should change an angle. Do you know you will get a box of chocolate from Valve if income from the game you made over 800k US dollars, Mike?

[fleet galleon]

Valve* you mean.
Also that's irrelevant.
Valve doesn't have the address of EHG workers and they don't have an office where to send packages.

[eternal zinc]

why? It's base on Texas, Judd's location 🤔

[static vale]

They still don't have an office. Just because a company is incorporated in a particular jurisdiction doesn't mean it has a physical presence there.

[pine dome]

Hi Mike, did you stream on youtube aswell Friday ?

[eternal zinc]

#❔┃ask-the-community message

[fleet galleon]

Vlad is specifically meaning last friday.

[eternal zinc]

🤔 The latest record is 2 months ago, before Mike on vacation

[pine dome]

Yeah, because the vod didnt show up on youtube
I was trying to know if it was YT shenanigans or did Mike forgot to press stream on YT ^^

[placid plinth]

I didn't forget. Last few streams that I tried to go to YouTube had issues. I was unsure if it was going to go well I'm general because everything is a fresh load of windows so I decided to keep it simple. I'm going to try next time.

[placid plinth]

Don't forget that amount received fluctuates between about $8.5 and $36 depending on where it was sold and if it was on sale or not. (I worked out the exact min and max from steamDB recently and those numbers are from my memory of that, not official numbers)

[placid plinth]

I have no more knowledge of how much money EHG made in 2024 than what is available publically. Even if I did have access to that information, I'm sorry, I would not share it.

EHG is not a publically traded company so I wouldn't expect to be able to find this info.

[eternal zinc]

Oh thanks. You gave me the key clue... The same with asking someone's privacy. Thanks 🫡

[kindred sky]

I believe that what Last Epoch players want is to be reassured. After the acquisition, the roadmap, and the long time between seasons, the community wants to be reassured. The Friday livestreams help keep players engaged and also allow them to see the evolution of the game. You lose nothing by sharing certain information.

[misty bobcat]

Hello Everyone, thank you Mike for the stream yesterday. I forgot to ask what I was wondering for a while now. In the announcement the new Echo Chains were presented. New info about them will come later, but I'm still going to ask 🙂 Are the Echo Chains main focus the QoL of not having to return to the Monolith panel between runs, or is it more about the linked related echos and the reward from the last in the chain? Or both?

[crude plover]

Historically the reason behind not being able to go from one echo directly to another has been a technical limitation. And just 3 months ago this was re-stated #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message .

Basically how echoes and the echo of a world area work is that they're all in the same "instance". Meaning they're both in the same area, hence why you don't need any load time when you teleport out of an echo and to the echo of a world area. you're literally just teleporting really far away in the same area, like using the mage teleport spell but super far. The echo of a world island is actually just super far to the left of where echoes load in iirc. The reason you need to go to it is so that the game can basically get rid of everything from the old echo and then load all the new stuff for the new echo in the same spot. So if echo chains were to be able to get rid of the need for the echo of a world pitstop then we'd likely get the same ability to do so for normal echoes as well, since like Mike said in the linked comment, it's something they'd like to do (But still weren't able to do as of just 3 months ago, and a couple months before the roadmap in which they were announced).

Hopefully this provides some context

[tall kettle]

That's actually super handy to know. I always just assumed each echo was it's own instance and it was always annoying to have to drop party to go do a quick favour farm or prophecy without knowing why. Chains look fanfreakingtastic~

[rotund wolf]

the same thing can't be accomplished with a loading screen? it should be possible to enter a portal in one echo, go to loading screen, dump current echo, load new echo, and go back into game

[valid marlin]

Yes, the same thing could be achieved with a loading screen. People generally prefer to avoid loading screens

[rotund wolf]

is a loading screen the worst thing imaginable to the point that you don't accomplish your goal of echo to echo travel? i'm positive everyone will accept having to experience a loading screen to do this

[vital shard]

a loading screen also implies other processes which could turn out really bad as a whole

[final cave]

As much as it is true that people love loading screens and never provide negative feedback or experiences regarding them, I'm confident this is not #feedback or #suggestions channel and something something conversations instead of asking the devs questions.

Also, Mike, you said above that dev streams may have run their course! Say it ain't so?

[placid plinth]

There are no plans to stop the dev streams. I'm personally feeling down about them after the reception from the last one. I thought it went well but the volume of public and private messages I've received telling me how bad it went has made me rethink it.

I don't think they serve the same purpose as they once did and I'm not sure I have anything worth while to share with the community any more other than just being a conduit for new information. I love doing them and I wish me rambling about the game and talking about design was enough but it doesn't feel like it is any more.

[placid plinth]

It's more about restructuring the echo web.

[deft perch]

Personally, I enjoy your insights about how you and the team make design decisions and the anecdotes about how things came to be, etc.
Of course I'm always hoping for teasers and info, but I do enjoy the stream even without new info.
Managing that expectation is no easy task I'm sure. Sorry

[pine chasm]

For what it's worth, I don't think it's you or the streams, just the general negativity going on currently combined with the long season wait that has some people being particularly loud. Those that are happy probably didn't feel the need to say anything.

The rambling is the best part!

[placid plinth]

well thanks for the reassurance 🙂 I'll still be doing the streams and I'm going to try and prep better for the next one

[pine dome]

The rambling is the best part!
Indeed

[sinful nacelle]

I was rewatching the season 3 trailer and it shows there will be updates to Summon Skeleton.
Is there anything you can tell us why it didn’t make it into the game? Will it be in season 4?

[crude plover]

The icon was added by mistake into the trailer
#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message
#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[sinful nacelle]

That’s a very odd mistake to show a skill for changes, then it never gets any. If it was not planned for any updates, how does the skill get added in the trailer showing off the updates for the session.

My questions might come off as angry. I’m not angry. Just a fan, who has been playing LE for years. Just wondering what happened.

[crude plover]

Nah it's a totally understandable question. I'm guessing there was a simple mix-up. The trailer says there will be balance changes to necromancer minions and shows the icons for the abomination and skeletons, when in reality the changes were to abomination and dread shade. It's hard to know exactly what or why it happened especially since it's been almost half a year since then. But it's a fairly simple mistake to make tbh, the person who was giving the notes to the person making the trailer could've just mistakenly put skeletons & abom instead of dread shade & abom or something along those lines.

[sinful nacelle]

I guess my question is based around the trailer said/showed a picture, that said "Balance changes to Necromancer Minions" and 2 icons under it. One for Summon Abomb. Yes it got changes. The other is for Summon Skeleton. There have not been updates to that at all. Why show that skill and say it is getting "Balance changes" if zero changes was planed.
Can EHG confirm it? Is this something that was not able to complete for S3 in time? Can I look forward to Necromancer minions changes in Season 4?

[misty bobcat]

Thank you for the answer so quickly.

[rotund wolf]

i didn't say that and there's already a loading screen in between the rest area and the next echo, it's the same amount of loading screens either way. so...

[timid fjord]

I remember reading that at some point there was some discussion about moving the locked middle square in idols around with seasons to make people come with new configurations.
was that something that was floating around only for short time or is it something that still comes up in discussion occassionally?

[placid plinth]

It gets brought up from time to time. I think it will happen at some point. I think that if it does, it will probably be tied to some other mechanic at the same time. I was hoping for it to happen at the same time as the weaver idol stuff but it was a pretty full patch already.

[final cave]

From an implementation perspective, is it viable to change the idol slot configuration based on an equipped item/blessing? Or would it cause a pile of nasty side effects?

[placid plinth]

It's possible, it would require all of the idol slots to be empty though.

[final cave]

Ghosts of spaghetti past. Sounds rad though. Moving to suggestions

[harsh sky]

Mike since you're back from holidays now, are we ever gonna get that official confirmation from the team on whether the game's base price will be increased once Orobyss DLC drops?

[fleet galleon]

I don't think this channel is for that kind of question
At best you'll get "I don't know"

[harsh sky]

It's a follow up to the answer I got here before, that it's been brought up to the relevant team and supposedly they were going to make an announcement.

[tulip ivy]

Since there’s no announcement you’ll still probably get “I don’t know” or at most a “I can’t share plans”

[harsh sky]

That's honestly fine, a non-answer is basically an answer in this case (since there's no reason not to clarify things if the price isn't going to increase). I'm just reminding in case it was just forgotten and we're actually going to get a confirmation.

[placid plinth]

I did forget, sorry. I also think I may have asked the wrong question at the time. I never asked about the base price but rather the potential of a DLC price. Regardless, the answer I got was basically that they would handle communication about all price stuff when they knew. So maybe even less than a non-answer, a non-question because I didn't even ask it right?

[harsh sky]

I think we kinda know that there won't be a DLC price since the official communication has been "DLC will be free with the base game", so it certainly would be a surprise if the DLC actually would end up coming with a price tag.

I'd say it's a bit logically inconsistent for the team to be able to definitely state that the DLC will be free while at the same time claiming to "not know yet" about DLC pricing (isn't it supposed to be free?), but I understand that the team might not feel like the community's reaction to the straight answer will be in their best interest, so we'll just have to read between the lines on what that means.

Thanks anyways for trying

[tulip ivy]

DLC is also the new classes 🙂 which will be paid.

If I’m not mistaken you are specifically asking about the expansion and if it will affect the base game price.

Mike’s answer applies to any DLC.

[placid plinth]

I'm so confused, are you asking if the expansion will be bundled with the base game for a new higher price after the expansion comes out?

[harsh sky]

The topic we were talking about, that led to the conversation about getting a confirmation from the team is about the Orobyss DLC. We do know already that the classes will be paid, there was no confusion there.

[placid plinth]

I don't know the answer to any of these questions other than what was literally said in the official posts, just trying to figure out what is being asked.

[harsh sky]

Yes, the question is whether the base game, after the free expansion is bundled with it, will come at a new price. This specifically came because the announcement particularly worded the expansion as being free for "previous owners", while the PS5 players and new players will buyt it in "one updated purchase". Instead of just "expansion will be a free update".

[placid plinth]

cool, gotcha

[vital shard]

people confuse release streams with regular streaming, you should ignore non-feedback
your stream are good imo

[toxic grove]

@stiff breach hay , i was wondering if i could add you and ask a few questions regarding workflow for research evidence with my masters degree?

[fallen hatch]

Does unique drop rate blessing from Fall of the Outcasts affect boss droprates like uber for example?

[crude plover]

No

[pine chasm]

Just to be extra clear, no blessings affect them

[umbral musk]

Hey! Got a technical dev question: I was wondering the other day about how item generation works in a game of this scale? In particular, if loot is randomized and you need to make a patch to fix some broken interaction or an affix needs to be nerfed, do you use a mapper to convert items properties between game versions, is there a lookup matrix by tier/type/etc. for item properties, or is it something else entirely?

[crude plover]

Affixes are in a list each with their own ID. Normal items are generated through a series of checks whos odds are influenced by a variety of factors (things like rarity from corruption, blessings etc) to determine rarity (white, blue, yellow etc), base type etc.

Unique and set items have their own ID's (and list) and each of their stats are a property of the unique itself.

So if you'd need to change an affix you'd go to that affixes ID in the list and change its properties. Same goes for a unique/set item.

I might have gotten a detail or two wrong but there's no huge matrix or anything you gotta scour through, that I'm fairly confident of

[umbral musk]

Thanks for the details! I figured uniques and set items would be fairly easy to change between versions, but I'm definitely curious about what happens if a white, blue, purple, etc. item gets generated that shouldn't have been. Maybe a couple of affixes are too strong to regularly drop together on one item, a dev realizes it via some in-game telemetry, then a patch needs to be made; in that case, something needs to happen to adjust all items where the issue occurred. I'm curious to know what that scenario looks like!

[crude plover]

There's no such scenario, any affix can generate with any other affix. They wouldn't restrict them from dropping together but would instead change / nerf one or both affixes. Since you'd be able to craft them together regardless even if they couldn't drop together initially.

Each affix has a "weight" (reroll chance). So if you want an affix to be rarer you simply increase the reroll chance (decrease the weight)

You can view these weights here:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/prefixes
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/suffixes

(reroll chance on the far right)

But usually if an affix is just straight up too strong they'll simply nerf its values.

And no, there wouldn't be a need to adjust "all items where the issue occurred" (I understood this as all items where these two affixes can roll together, or a problematic scenario happening in general). You'd only need to change the affix(es)/base type in question.

Hopefully this makes sense, and please correct me if I'm just blatantly wrong when/if you see this Mike ^^

[umbral musk]

For sure! I really appreciate the answer -- the underlying technical decisions for how and why items are generated are pretty crucial to a game like this, so I was curious to examine what the plan of action is when things go wrong in production.

[placid plinth]

When an item is serialized and put into a string which can be decoded to regenerate that exact item in the future, each affix is stored as ID, Tier and Roll. When the item is loaded, the affixes get decoded and set. So if we want to change the power of an item, we just change the affix in the list and every single item in the game automatically updates to respect that.

Now, sometimes we want to remove an affix from the game all together, when that happens, we actually seal the existing affix on the item and it creates a legacy item that can't be created any more. This hasn't happened since I think 1.1 was released so they are quite rare and not very powerful any more.

[placid plinth]

crushed it!

[umbral musk]

Amazing! That's exactly what I was curious about. Sealing to make a legacy item is a neat workaround for a case like that, though now I'm curious to know what happened to the items in player inventories that already had sealed affixes? Did the newly sealed affix override the old one, get discarded, or are there some special items that can have more than one sealed affix?

[crude plover]

There are also items from pre 1.0 which just kept their affix as is (like this flat armour ring I have for example).

[placid plinth]

If it happened twice, it would get 2 sealed affixes. It is possible to do this.

[pine chasm]

The flat armor is what potion drop chance was changed to when that affix was disabled on rings

[crude plover]

Ohhhh right I totally forgot

[sturdy ridge]

I am excited for tomorrows stream 🙂

[dense mulch]

Maybe it's a long shot but worth asking: if i set the new bladestorm skill to proc shuriken and in shuriken i use the node where they spin arpund me, what happens? XD

[timber herald]

is there a possibility that gathering storm could be added to the storm werebear as a swipe alternative ?

[pine dome]

If you want the to consider it >> #suggestions

Keep in mind you need a proper formatting

Title: xxxxx

Suggestion : xxxxx xxxx

[placid plinth]

I can't remember which parts of bladestorm have been revealed so I can't really speak to that directly. I'm pretty sure that just in general triggered shurikens while you have the blade shield node behave the same as direct cast versions.

[dense mulch]

Ok, nice to know. I want to try the "everything spins" thing where bladestorm will carry around shuriken storms with them lol

[jaunty dune]

is there any upper limit on how many sealed affixes could theoretically be acquired in this way? -oops meant to turn off ping sorry

[placid plinth]

I don't really care about reply pings if they are relevant and it's not super busy so you're good.

Yes, at a certain point it will hit a hard cap of sealed affixes as the item serialization can only be so long. (I don't know what that number is off the top of my head.)

[jaunty dune]

cool - my guess is that cap is higher than it'd ever be reasonable to acquire in game because you'd have to a) have all the legacy affixes on an item before they go legacy and b) have the FP to continue adding more but always fun to learn little things about how the game works 🙂

[buoyant bone]

Hey Mike are there plans to introduce more class specific gear (helmet/body armor/relic) to support more builds in this upcoming season/cycle?

[crude plover]

I remember in the past items had a total of 6 affix "slots" with only 4 being used, but now that we can seal a normal affix as well as a T8 affix, are all the "slots" taken or were sealed affixes never using the same "slots" to begin with?

[grim geyser]

will the aerial assault node that drops umbral blades be able to drop bladestorm? or is that playstyle dead

[placid plinth]

yea, you'd have to be able to predict which ones were being changed and the FP limit would eventually stop you before it happened probably.

[placid plinth]

We don't current have plans to branch out to more slots having class specific bases.

[placid plinth]

the "slots" are mostly just a UI construct and arbitrary restriction we place on them. It's less that we aren't using the same slots and more that there no spoon.

[crude plover]

Spoon, indeed 😁

[buoyant bone]

oh no not more slots having class specific stuff, like sentinel getting a body armor for a spellcaster sentinel, mage getting a body armor for melee focused for Spellblade

[placid plinth]

I can't really comment on speicific upcoming changes that haven't been revealed yet. I don't actually know the answer to this one without going to double check.

In general, when there is a playstyle or archetype that is quite popular, we work hard to not destroy that through balance or mechanical changes.

[placid plinth]

Oh, maybe. I can't give new info on unrevealed stuff. So answers to things like that are always just maybe.

[buoyant bone]

Thats understandable

[misty bobcat]

@placid plinth Was a great stream and teasers. Btw. you can distinguish between rift beast outgoing and portal to the cave not only by the direction but also by it's color (I find that easier). The first one is slightly greenish and the portal one has a slight red tint 😉 .

[final cave]

Read this as shadow massager.... can you confirm or deny the original name for the node?

[placid plinth]

Sad deny

[quaint spindle]

rofl

[eternal galleon]

Good afternoon! I had some questions about dungeon keys. Is there a level requirement to start dropping Dungeon Keys? Or could a character start dropping them very rarely from level 1? Is there a campaign progression/area level requirement to drop them? Does it differ between keys?

[placid plinth]

Basically right after the associated dungeon.

[jaunty dune]

the game guide says that they drop at a higher level than tier 1 of the dungeon, generally this means that the first zone that you can drop the keys in is the zone where the dungeon would drop you out after completing it

[eternal galleon]

Ah, hadn't thought to check that. The game guide always has more than I expect. Thank you. I was trying to figure out if a Soulfire Bastion key could drop in Tier 2 Lightless Arbor. Unless there is some other limitations, it seems like you can get one! Very cool

[eternal zinc]

EHG is full-remote. Does it mean that time zones are the hardest ones in terms of communication cost? If not, what point is the hardest one?

[placid plinth]

We run the studio on a very americas (north/central/south) time schedule so even people who work elsewhere around the world still do most of their work during those times. It is tricky to coordinate time zones sometimes but part of signing up is knowing that you'll be working in the evening if you're in say Europe for example. This is a big positive for some people too.

[placid plinth]

The point was so that if people were racing, who gets to the end first wasn't dictated by an early lucky key drop. Personally, I think this might have put a damper on the enfranchised player leveling experience though. I think that personally I'd like to see T1 of the dungeons not even cost a key.

[eternal zinc]

I wish I'm in Europe or North/South Americas... :(
Thanks

[valid basalt]

If there were no key cost to enter t1 dungeons, do you think that a more difficult t1 encounter would maybe be something youd want, to help it act more as a 'the story is the intended way, if you cant do this, you should be doing story' type of gating? (just asking to see your insight on that type of thing from the game design side)

[opaque coral]

I wonder - increasing Rogue Shadows damage, will increase damage from ailments dealt by umbral daggers used by them?

[crude plover]

Yes

[opaque coral]

@crude plover thanks for quick answer 🙂

[placid plinth]

Yea, I think very very few players could complete the t1 dungeon at the current difficulty on their first character. (Assuming that the dungeon didn't cost a key). It might need some adjustments.

If it were a reasonable campaign option for skilled, experienced players on their season starters, I think that would probably be a positive thing. I'm not sure on this though.

[valid basalt]

yeah that makes sense, about where my brains been at with it (planning to add it as one of the options for the mod im doing at the very least)

[eternal zinc]

yes, it's why I wonder why players can use dungeons to skip part of campaign

[timid fjord]

whats the significance behind 225 prophecy reroll cost? its little odd number as it isnt even 200 or 250.
Was it just something that felt good or does it have math behind it?

[placid plinth]

I'm not sure, probably tried it at 200 and 250 and each were too low/high.

[placid plinth]

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. Please rephrase.

[eternal zinc]

oh I don't ask a question, just say my mind

(long long long time not play the full campaign once time)

🤔 Last time I play the full campaign is level up my shaman, February 2025

[small coral]

Will there be any other uber bosses in the near future?

[crude plover]

That's not something you'll get revealed here

[hollow agate]

Yes we know there is morditas a new engame boss (uber version not announced) at season 5 late 2026 early 2027.
And uber orobyss (and a normal version too and other bosses without any detail) at extension during 2027 probably

[crude plover]

(We don't know if Morditas will come with an uber version right away)

All we know is that it's an endgame boss

might be weaker than normal aberroth for all we know

[devout wolf]

Echo - Rampant Coast - I believe that the Rift Beast is bugged. Let me explain: You did not include in your calculation the lag... so for me it is totally shitty. Beast spit fire and I die from behind it. Not sure what were you thinking when coding a beast when you can't react because of the netwrok lag ????

Yes you can see that the beast will spit fire, you move away but in next 200 milliseconds the fire is somewhere else. For me it is incompetent coding to include such skills that require 0 ms reaction time

[crude plover]

With enough lag nothing would be possible to react to. Enemy attacks are designed with a reasonable amount of delay in mind. If all enemies were made with massive ping in mind the game would be really jank for people who don't have high ping. This doesn't really have anything to do with it being bugged or badly coded

If you think that specific attack is way too fast please post that feedback in the #feedback channel.

[devout wolf]

No this is totally not true. When i circle around the best the beast will follow me with it's skill. So the skill from Rift beast are different then 99% of other attacks/skills.

Thank you for your time and go ........ Yes of course I will do that, because I know all the attack names even functions you call when executing them. That is a polite message to tell me go fu.... self kido and don't post in here. I got it, thank you and you won't get any support from me.

[crude plover]

Sorry if it came off that way. It wasn't meant like that. You can just describe the attack like you have here, it's usually sufficient for the devs to narrow it down. This channel is specifically not for feedback or bug reports, nothing from this channel gets logged or reviewed which is why we direct people to the proper channels since they get scraped by a bot and compiled for the team to review.

[flint bloom]

also, take few minutes and read the #rules , specifically #1. thanks

[crude plover]

This is not the appropriate channel for such things. Please dm the @jaunty pier bot to open a ticket regarding any moderation issues. If you'd like to discuss things outside of that which are within the servers rules please do so in the appropriate channels such as #💬┃general . Any further messages about this or the previous topic in this channel will get deleted.

You can reach out via the support ticket system if modmail isn't working. Note that when messaging modmail you don't need to select a server, simply dm the user at the top of the user list and it will automatically allocate it to this server. I just tested it and it seems to work as intended.

!support

[fiery lily]

Anything we can help with? We've support articles and a contact form at https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[placid plinth]

Looks like I missed some fun in here over the weekend. The others are right that this isn't a great place to put bug reports because we don't pull reports from here. The in game bug reporting tool [F8] goes directly into our triage system so that is by far the most effective at getting us to act on something.

With regards to the ping consideration and abilities, we do actually add in ping consideration for abilities so they are visually in sync with the server. Character rotation however isn't completely reliable and is one place that can get desynced a bit. Abilities which have high dot damage and expect you to move out of them immediately should have a vfx warning that is reliably synced though. I'm not 100% sure which ability you're talking about but you might have to look more at the vfx than the character rotation to get a better idea of what is actually happening.

Hope that helps survive it better next time.

[fervent girder]

There are abilities like ring of fire which it can disappear or absolutely kill you without even any input almost from the rift beast ,good thing is we dont loose anything so you hope for better rng abilities and go again,that being said less aoe dot abilities that last a long time will be appreciated for the future mobs

[timid fjord]

Do you have favourite special visual detail you love in the game?
I have two I absolutely adore, How spriggan form implements primalists chest scar and how snap freeze applies the icicles to all enemies in opposite direction of the blast

[placid plinth]

It's not out yet but soon to exist, the character leaning inward when turning while running.

[eternal zinc]

I want to ask about audio due to #news message

Any professional ways which available to everyone can be applied at judging what's a good audio for a skill/single action/combat music/environment sound? How to determine the most matched sound for them based on the vibe want to express?

I want to listen the lecture of music composers and audio designers (answers from them I mean)

Reason: I mean I need to bring many questions when I'm experiencing something if I want to form the own opinions for something so I'm finding a common mode which not only can apply le, but also another games even different medias like pure music and movies so I can use this system to analyze anything about audio. I wonder what am I seeking in music so I would attract by some special soundtracks 🤔

[crude plover]

You don't really need an education/knowhow to give feedback on it. If there's any skill/thing you feel for whatever reason (you yourself don't even need to know the reason) either doesn't fit the skill, doesn't have enough impact, sounds weird etc then that's valid feedback. Pretty much any sounds that brings you negative emotion in any way can be channeled into good feedback

[wicked orchid]

That sounds like a formal education in sound recording probably to be honest though is what you want.

[limber plume]

Any reason we did not get any event in the downtime between seasons? Even re-releasing that undead event we already had (maybe add some whacky modifiers as extra) would have at least be something...

[flint bloom]

That event was very badly recieved by the community as a whole.

That being said, they have publicly asked for ideas about other events, possibly including mid season resets.

Please put any ideas or opinions in #feedback or #suggestions

[placid plinth]

It also does eat up quite a few resources to put out. I know it seems like a tiny thing but even a ladder reset is a drain on the next season that needs to be considered.

[chrome rain]

If they could only pick one, what kind of new affix would each dev like to see introduced in the game?

Bonus question: is there any affix you'd like to see removed or reworked?

[jaunty dune]

the 'essence devourer' lich passive says "you deal more damage over time based on your current health drained per second", does the "% of current health lost per second" on exsanguinous count towards this? I was assuming the answer was yes but just noticed that on the character sheet the 20% from exsang is listed as its own stat which doesn't include the "% of current health drained per second" from the passive tree

[languid zenith]

Is snap shotting an intended part of the games design or an unintended side effect?

[pine dome]

unintended side effect

[crude plover]

Yeah exsang, last steps etc don't "drain" your health, they make you "lose" health. It even says in the alt text that they're not affected by drain modifiers, and as such they wouldn't affect things that rely on drain either.

[jaunty dune]

thanks, didn't catch that tooltip... interesting to see that because after asking i tested the interaction and to me it looked like they were having an effect, but maybe there was another stat giving me a bonus that i didn't notice i was benefiting from

[languid zenith]

Figured so but saw a discussion in the Acolyte channel that got me wondering

[placid plinth]

There are certain situations where snapshotting is intended. For example, shooting a fireball. You don't want that fireball's stats to change as it's flying across the screen. This makes the whole concept of intended vs not a little fuzzy. So there are certain situations that seem like an unintended side effect but are intended for consistency reasons.

[placid plinth]

You'll usually only get my replies here so you'll have to settle for just 1 answer. It's also hard to answer questions like this as the one I want to see the most is coming at some point but I can't spoil it.

As for an affix I would remove, we already kinda are slowly phasing it out and that is any increase to a percentage based stat. The most notable example is increased critical strike chance.

[verbal pine]

thats interesting. is it to make getting 100% crit more rewarding and/or play around mechanics? (ex. meteor node that says staying above 400 mana makes meteor crit all the time). whats the reasoning if you can share

[pine chasm]

I know the wording is inconsistent, but the drain from items does work: #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[placid plinth]

It's less about crit specifically and more just that we get a TON of bug reports that go something like "I just got an item that has 40% crit on it but my crit chance barely changed. Fix now!" Increasing a percentage based stat by a percentage is not intuitive to many players and having smaller number flat crit instead doesn't really change much in the long run when players are often capping their crit chance anyways.

[verbal pine]

ah thanks for the insight. cheers!

[tall kettle]

Will you be able to corrupt idols with the new runes?

[placid plinth]

We haven't given a clear answer on this and we will be sharing more details about the system as it gets closer to launch. Try not to listen to speculation too hard.

[tall kettle]

Oh I hadn't seen anything was just reading a cool idea someone had on forums re: idols and thought I'd ask - thanks!

[pine chasm]

Just FWIW, the rune does not require forging potential and specifically states it removes all Weaver's Touch, which is something that can only appear on class-specific idols currently.

[tall kettle]

Yep I read what the current rune does in those regards 🙂

[thick osprey]

Are there any plans to improve or make changes to non class specific idols (Small Etteran, Minor Lagonian, Humble Etteran, Stout Lagonian)? Currently, they are only used during the first playthrough of the campaign and are inferior in every way to their Weaver's versions, unlike the larger idols, which can be enchanted

[languid zenith]

That's fair enough, to be more specific I am referring to say in an Abomination build where you can snapshot skills onto for example thus exceeding the limitation of the number of skills we the player can usually specialise in. Would this kind of snapshotting be considered intentional or just an uninitended side affect of how skills are currently implemented?

[placid plinth]

Just to be super clear, you're talking about summoning your abom, unspecializing a skill, specializing a different skill, putting points into that, leveling it up to get the rest of the points and then going into a boss fight? So the resummoning process includes a step where you have to relevel a skill from 10-20?

[placid plinth]

This is a tough one to reply to because on primcipal I can't really answer this because I decline to answer questions like this just in general. However, last week on stream someone asked me if I thought that this was a problem. My reply was that no, I didn't think it was a problem.

[languid zenith]

Yeah, like being able to put a fully specced say Infernal Shade onto your Abom, specialising it but still getting all the benefits from it and then speccing into something else essentially getting the benefit from 6 specialised skills circumventing the in-game limitation of only being able to specialise 5 skills.

[placid plinth]

despecializing infernal shade should delete all existing infernal shades and if it doesn't, that's a bug.

[languid zenith]

So I assume it is safe to say it would be unintentional then?

[placid plinth]

yes, we don't intentionally add bugs to the game.

[pine chasm]

Are you confirming that the bee level is unintended? 👀

[placid plinth]

We don't intentionally add unintended game functionality to the game. Better?

[jaunty dune]

good rule of thumb: don't intentionally add unintended functionality... you might end up creating a paradox if you manage to do it 😉

[gloomy nest]

Is Last Epoch - Woven Vanquisher Supporter Pack still not upgradeble?
Do you still need to fully buy the Legend pack if you got the Vanquisher one?

[worthy stump]

Well that explains so the spider enemies. To catch the bugs

[valid basalt]

Hey, I was wondering if theres some specific way I would be able to reach out in regards to getting a conversation going or somethign, around information im getting from my work on putting a mod together, and how the level of datamining thats come out from figuring stuff out so i can mod it, might not be somethign ehg is suuuper comfortable with being put out there?

I have no idea where I can email, or contact anyone so just throwing this in here.

(obviously all the mod stuff is for the offline version of the game)

[flint bloom]

either DM @jaunty pier or make a support ticket

!support

[fiery lily]

Anything we can help with? We've support articles and a contact form at https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[valid basalt]

i cant dm modmail, says my discord isnt verified or something. Are support tickets quick enough now that it wont be like, beyond the point of it mattering?

[flint bloom]

those are your two options. you arent going to really get any public response about modding in general.

esp since its against ToS. but there are some people who obv have datamining and are allowed to.

but you gotta reach out to them thru one of the approved ways

[valid basalt]

im asking about datamined information, somethign i know they've asked people before to limit. Its not about modding inherently.

[flint bloom]

esp since mike got hacked.

you brought up modding 3 times in your original post. lol

either way. reach out in one of the two ways i listed above

[valid basalt]

well, okay. TO be clear im just asking this so ehg can tell me what they wouldnt want out there basically (the mod context is that, without intentional action taken, a mod reveals most of it anyway)

but if the line is just 'theres no way to talk to anyone, its against tos' then sure, fine, i tried lol

[flint bloom]

modding is specifically against ToS (but there is also no way to police this offline anyways so its more if you break it too bad EHG isnt going to help you fix it, we see plenty of modded/created items in the discord for better or worse)

datamining as i stated above is allowed with permission, but you gotta ask thru support or modmail (which will likely throw you to support anyways).

you really arent going to get any answer here

[worldly marten]

any staff members know if its a know issue when Last Epoch is bough on steam account of a different region than physical location of pc trying to launch the game from said account?

[pine dome]

I feel like this is more a support question
You can dm @jaunty pier

Or ask support

!support

[fiery lily]

Anything we can help with? We've support articles and a contact form at https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[sturdy ridge]

Did mike get back his account?

[crude plover]

Yes

[sturdy ridge]

Do you know how it got hacked?

[placid plinth]

Yes, it won't happen again.

[sturdy ridge]

Story for dev stream tormorrow?

[placid plinth]

I'd rather not

[hollow agate]

Did you leak your password during the stream?

[crude plover]

no lol

can we please move on from the topic

[sturdy ridge]

I am happy that you got it back

[abstract tundra]

Has anyone encountered the LE-65 error?

[final cave]

!support

[fiery lily]

Anything we can help with? We've support articles and a contact form at https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[plucky badge]

Hey there! What's the issue you're having?

[crude plover]

They were linking support for the person above them asking about error LE-65 ^^

[plucky badge]

<goes to get more coffee>

[restive hull]

what time is the stream please? ❤️

[pine dome]

In 25 min

[long anvil]

I get ban. Where can i get information why?

[pine dome]

Try

!support

[fiery lily]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[worthy stump]

The coffee machine is broken

[marble socket]

Hi guys! Could someone post today's teasers images?

[marble socket]

Thank you, Mike! 👍

[placid plinth]

I'm trying to remember to do this each week but if I forget feel free to remind me.

[eternal zinc]

Is it a helmet or a ring? The 2nd teaser

[placid plinth]

ring

[eternal zinc]

🤔 That's interesting if it belong to a set so I can know what the corresponding helmet looks

[solemn iris]

idk if its been asked, ive been away for awhile, reflect getting nerfed?

[fleet galleon]

You're not going to get leaks about balance on this channel

[pine chasm]

They have confirmed the reflect build that uses the primordial chest armor will be nerfed. I don't remember where exactly they said it, though.

[solemn iris]

how does exp scaling work, is 100kc for a level 40 similar to 1000 kc, whats the math on the penalty?

[crude plover]

When your character is a lower level compared to the area level and you're playing alone you get XP up to 10 levels above your character level, matching the area level.

So for example a level 40 in a level 60 area gets xp as if the area is level 50, if the area was level 100 (such as in empowered echoes) the character would still only get XP as if the area level was 50.

The corruption experience modifier is unaffected by this. So let's say at corruption x we have a +100% experience modifier. Our level 40 character gets experience as if they were in a level 50 area, which is then doubled.

Now let's say at corruption y the experience modifier is +300%. Our level 40 character would still get experience as if the area level was 50, but quadrupled. So double what they would've gotten at x corruption.

So basically the corruption experience scaling works the same proportionally speaking even when you're a lower level than the area level.

If you would've gotten double the xp in one corruption vs another at character level 100 you'll get double the xp no matter what your character level is.

An important note for boosting a character is that this 10 level limit will vary depending on the difference in party character levels. For example if you're playing a level 10 character and your friend is playing a level 70 character and you guys are in an area level 40 zone. You'll only get experience as if the area level was 12, instead of the area level 20 experience you would've gotten if you were alone. This is one of the reasons power leveling isn't very good on LE, but you can still power level somewhat decently at high enough corruption.

You can read more about this in the game guide entry both in-game (G) and on LE tools:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/experience

[solemn iris]

ahhhh ok thanks very much!

[placid plinth]

That was such a complete answer. Wow

[solemn iris]

my buddy was flexing a halo on me, is there anyway to bribe the devs to give me a halo to flex it back on him hahah, i didnt get you guys early enough. Me and golden guppy are chill though

[crude plover]

The halo is super og. Sadly they don't give limited time rewards out to people who are ineligible (they will give them to people who should've gotten them but never claimed them usually)

Otherwise they'd lose their swag factor :P

[solemn iris]

he didnt have the immortal crown so i won that one

[verbal pine]

heres a fun one though i know i asked a while ago to get a breakdown showcase of an unique in suggestions:

how roughly does an idea for unique go from an idea to added to the game. we talking a couples or weeks depending on how much code is needed to be done, design, etc?

[placid plinth]

Massive variance. There are unique item ideas that have sat on a notepad beside my desk for years before finally finding a home. There are others that get added in the middle of a design meeting for something else because someone has an idea that can be implemented with no code changes. Typically they take about a week from start to finish to go through design scrutiny, implementation, QA and art.

[fossil dune]

Who made that teased ring wet?

[placid plinth]

I'm not sure who's work that is but it is gross in a great way.

[quaint spindle]

big agree lol

[worthy stump]

What event had them

[placid plinth]

Sharing the Kickstarter link on social media for the month it was active.

[solemn iris]

might of already asked, reflect being nerfed?

[fossil dune]

Generally you won't get an answer on upcoming balance changes here, just a standard they uphold

[solemn iris]

bug, cant get golden res out of my inv

cant trade an item with golden rez, and no its not obsidianqpoja

[crude plover]

Click the transfer button in your inventory

and also golden resonances are very limited in what they can be used to gift

[solemn iris]

if anyone needs help, im bank standing

[fleet galleon]

This is ask the devs channel
Not "does anyone need help" channel

[worldly marten]

Just read the Weaver tree's "primordial ambush" node description, are there really primordial uniques that cannot be bought from the trader?

[delicate osprey]

can all primordial uniques drop from rift beasts=?

[pine dome]

Yes, 2

[pine dome]

Yes

[placid plinth]

✅

[wind hazel]

Will the weapon sound overhaul be released ahead of schedule? I really enjoy the game, but the identical audio for all melee weapons significantly impacts immersion. I’d appreciate any insight you can share.

[placid plinth]

We are not planning on advancing the release schedule of anything. If we have news about upcoming release schedule changes, it will be posted in #news

[fervent girder]

The first obsidian resonance drops after 5 golden resonance,then after wards its random is it supposed to proc every 5 golden resonance the obsidian or is bad rng when you can get idk 10 golden resonance before you get another obsidian?

[placid plinth]

As far as I know, there is no consistent doesn't relationship between the drop rates.

[eternal zinc]

Hi, any clues about which food will citizens in eterra eat when they're taking an adventure, please?

I don't think food they eat are as same as food we eat in real life.

[placid plinth]

Check the eterra monthly posts, most of possibly all have food recipes.

[eternal zinc]

@low summit Recipes you posted are both of your flavours and food in eterra?

[low summit]

Yes, the recipes in Eterra Monthly are my own

[eternal zinc]

Can I say these recipes are your imagination of food in eterra or not?

[low summit]

It's more complicated than that.
The recipes I've released are a combination of what fit the season, and what I could see people eating in a specific era.
Some will not have anything to do with either and will be based on a character. I have more coming soon.

[eternal zinc]

Now a fun one! What favourite food for these characters are? Characters here mean masteries or not?

Alright not a fun one now.

[low summit]

I haven't revealed those yet, but they are coming

[eternal zinc]

#❔┃ask-the-community message
Can I ask what form of this gate is and what inspired EHG to make the gate in this type?

[placid plinth]

It looks cool and fits the aesthetic.

[eternal zinc]

It come from the body of which animal in eterra? Which era this animal live in?

(A plus question pop out: Any exclusive animals for different eras in eterra?)

What sense of flames in eterra could be except provide light and warmth?

(It's a new question)

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/6N1lyn

I want to ask which story is carved on this firepit too... No idea at all

(what inspired the craftman in eterra made this firepit?)

I want to ask for help by Kyle, the loremaster if I can

[hollow glen]

Along side Paradox classes are you guys planning on adding more baseline classes/masteries?

I'm 100% getting the Paradox class I'm just wondering. Love the game

[delicate osprey]

same 🙂

[timid fjord]

Last I heard about the pull/push effects was that they were being avoided in new stuff because they are hard to make work as you would like.
What's the current direction with them, still trying to make them work or will they slowly be phased out completely?

[wicked orchid]

they better not stop warcry pulling its insanely good at tugging things towards me when they are standing in their own dot fields and stuff to melee them. Tornado is also amazing

[placid plinth]

The current plan is the same as it's always been, fix the positioning discrepancies and make them play nice. It's a long process, we've made some back end changes that have progressed that goal but it's still not done. We are continuing to be very cautious with them and not add more sources of it for the time being.

[placid plinth]

We aren't removing the access to push/pull effects in those abilities.

[placid plinth]

We are still working out the best way to add new gameplay styles and thematic character types to the game. I've got a base class that I would really like to add to the game and I'm definitely not slowly fleshing it out in the evenings with hopes that it eventually gets approved or anything like that...

We've got plans for base/mastery classes that I don't know the order that things will happen in. We are focused on the upcoming class at the moment.

[final cave]

Would you say you are cooking a class? Or would you say your class is cooking? 😉

[pine dome]

Chef class confirmed???

[placid plinth]

I mean no but FFIX does have my favorite blue mage of all time.

[gaunt dust]

This is living architecture made by the Draal, the insect species encountered in the Ancient Era that dies off between then and the late eras. As far as exclusive animals, there is less of this between the Divine, Imperial, and Ruined Eras due to the shorter gaps in time between them and the Ancient Era (not counting the many mass extinctions due to the void's presence in the Ruined Era). Draal, dragons, and other large and formidable wildlife ended up not lasting long past the Ancient Era due to the efforts of the gods.

[gaunt dust]

Not quite sure if I understand the question, but the main other symbolism you see associated with flame in Eterra is power, dominance, destruction, pride, etc. largely due to Rahyeh and his connection to flame.

[gaunt dust]

The firebit is a part of the Temple of Eterra, and was inspired by events from before the Ancient Era related to the Elysians, the culture that built the temple.

[crude plover]

I'm back to ask about warpath being weird. To make this easier I'm gonna call the skill you cast warpath and the skill warpath casts (Warpath) that actually does the hitting "slash".

If I've understood it correctly warpath is technically just a channeled skill that slows you by 20% and prevents you from being stunned while periodically casting slash. So the area, melee and physical tags are technically false tags that serve a functional purpose since they let it interact with things like + level to those tags.

On LE tools the slash skill has the physical, melee, area, movement, and strength tags. But not the channeled tag which I find a little confusing considering it gets the movement tag despite doing nothing movement related. But I guess it's because everything channelling related is "while channelling" so it wouldn't matter either way.

Here's the actual question now. Why does slash trigger the chariot boots but not warpath. Since if warpath did trigger them you'd think the entire channel would get the bonus which isn't the case afaik, instead one slash cast gets the bonus every time it comes off cooldown. If both warpath and slash genuinely have the movement tag in its entirety shouldn't the end result be that you sometimes double dip with chariot? As in warpath gets the bonus for the entire channel which gets passed down to slash which it in of itself can also get the bonus whenever it's off cool down. Is this a manually coded exception or is there something I'm not understanding regarding tags or inheritance that stops it?

Actually how come warpath doesn't snapshot way more in general, I get it's slash doing the hitting but it should inherit snapshotted stats from warpath no? Or is it coded so that it's not warpath casting slash but the player character and it just kinda yoinks the warpath tree?

[eternal zinc]

1. Any relationships between Draal and eterra? Why Draal is here? What have it been did in Eterra? How Draal is born?
2. Oh power, domination, destruction, pride. Good key words they're, thanks.
3. Elysians? Any details about Elysians can be spoiled? How the culture of Elysians influence eterra?
4. Which key words will you give if key words are needed to summarize the core of story in Eterra/ Which things are you want to explore by Eterra's story?

[eternal zinc]

#❔┃ask-the-community message
Sorry... I want to ask what item is it, in this reference.

[eternal zinc]

All details we can know so far (part 1)

• Background
  Character:
  Sentinel: A soldier from Rahyeh’s army, did blacksmith before, want to help anyone he see to repent his crime after saw innocents die.
  Rogue: A assassin be hired by Apophis, because Apophis want someone to assassinate herself publicly. She knew Apophis fooled her later and she decide to head toward a new city for a fresh start.
  Mage: A spell teacher from Welryn, acolyte is his student, he heard acolyte learnt dark magic so he feels he has let down. (??? Why mage feel he has let down?) He went to welryn to help after heard Welryn be attacked. (??? What he can help?)
  Acolyte: A student of mage, banned from welryn because she want to learn spells under inhibition. She want to watch how welryn going after she heard it's under attack so she headed toward Welryn.
  Primalist: A leader, had witnessed the assault on Heoborea and headed to the Temple of Eterra to seek answers.

The world:
-Eterra created this land so this land named by her name.
-Observer and Eterra are two gods stands on different side.
-Eterra represent the peace, no info about observer.
-Eterra guided the land located in somewhere away from dragons and other hostile creatures.
-Three gods living different cities, they're Heorot, Lagon and Majasa.
-Welryn is a city to learn magic stuff.
-Epoch is saved as 3 shards which hided in different places for away from the wrong hands.
-Rahyeh has Osprix, Majasa has Nagasa, Lagon has Meruna and Heorot had Wengari.

• Chapter 1
  -Rayah want to burn everything down. (??? Why he want to burn everything down suddenly?)
  -Grael (No idea who is it and why they're here, never see this character in game), who was sent to the peace talk. (Who sent him? Why a peace talk here?)
  -Balthas, who keep one shard of epoch, went to a fortress hidden, where the other shard is located, to help his shard safer.
  -Osprix, the mount of Rahyeh, kidnapped Balthas on the way. (why Rahyeh want to kidnap Balthas? How Rahyeh know Bathas head toward fortress hidden?)
  -Balthas want to hide 2 epoch shards in different time by himself after he keeps them. (Why Balthas want to move epoch shards to different time? Which plan behind that?)
  -Keeper is introduced but no info about what keeper do in Eterra.

Questions for details of story above #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message still valid. I just doing my job.

[night quartz]

Are there any plans to do numerical changes to a bunch of wet noodle skills and sub-skills that aren’t being reworked?

E.g. Like 50-80 rows in the patch notes with just numerical changes to skills and sub-skulls that see low use. Like holy tail or cryomancers…..

[pine dome]

From EHG_Justin on reddit
One can only hope

[night quartz]

It sounds like they are very focused on achieving balance. I think seasonal ARPGs don’t need balance as much as they need reshuffles.
Sadly I wouldn’t dare bet that we get many numerical changes based on what he wrote there.

[pine dome]

Sometimes it is just a simple number tweak that can improve a skill, and we just need the awareness to make the change.

But I find it's consistently a valuable use of time to do so, and I try my best to identify places where we can just throw in quick number buffs to make things viable for players who want to enjoy that skill.

Feels like they are getting more inclined to do small numerical changes to get more skills in the spotlight

We'll see on the 23rd I guess (it's my estimated date for patch note)

[night quartz]

I hope you’re right.
I interpreted the other parts (on phone now so can’t post screenshot) that they are afraid of doing numerical changes without fully understating the impact.
Which takes time, so then that amount of time starts competing with things like adding new stuff.
This is why I’m more skeptical that we’ll see more numerical changes

But I hope im wrong and you right.

[edgy copper]

Just wondering about something, supposedly elemental conversions should affect the skill tree correct? Is the fact that craterborn (fire pen) and, im assuming, shrapnel not converting to lightning, intentional or an oversight?
Edit: Should've mentioned im asking about vilatrias lightning conversion for meteor

[crude plover]

Intentional, conversions affecting pretty much everything is a newer design. Not all old skills have had it retroactively changed yet but it is something they're doing over time

(meteor is very old)

[edgy copper]

Yeah I figured, just wanted to ask since some older skills, like acid flask, actually got those changes, hopefully meteor will get at least that little bit of love, well guess ill try my idea anyway and of somewhat works it just means it will work better in the future 😂

[eternal zinc]

All details we can know so far (part 2)

• Chapter 2

Background
-Its creator the world is ceasing to exist
-Orobyss is guiding the void to take everything back into darkness by corrupting Eterra and wipe human settlements
-Balthas created the last refuge in the fortress hidden where the epoch shard used to be held
-No info about elders.
-No info about council chamber.

The story
-No info about what the relationship between elder Erza and elder Pinnon.
-Elder Pinnon is failed to be rescued because he and his students are corrupted.
-I collected the last epoch shard after defeated corrupted Elder Pinnon. (??? How am I collect all shards exactly? One from elder Pinnon, one from...Balthas left? But the last one still be lost.)
-I travelled to the end of time and met elder Gaspar. In there, tune me in with such a version of myself to gain knowledge that they had is what I had did.

• Chapter 3

The 1st dungeon
-I encountered a titianic creature, found a place full of stones and woods, the end is a dungeon calls lightless arbor.
-I met a spriggan, she told me she just woke up from a long nap since ancient era.
-The spriggan was handmade by Eterra so she want to protect all humans, which is the willpower of Eterra.
-The spriggan assists me in chasing down the Titan by sending her consciousness from tree to tree.
-The spriggan feel everyone is limited by time but I'm not, so she gave me a branch to regrow her one day. (??? No impression for I have did that in the next trip in the end of time.)

The story
-The last epoch shard is in temple of Eterra, it's what elder Gaspar told me.
-Ruins of Welryn is the first location I must pass through, I help an immortal undead begging to die here and learnt immortal empire is ruled Welryn before void corrupted here
-Symbol of hope, a gift from Oracle long time ago help Welryn to become the last place to be corrupted
-Outcast is a group of people who lived near temple of Eterra while immortal empire rule Welryn.
-A queen lead all outcasts, outcasts are descendancy of keepers, no info about why outcasts did everything they could to hide the shard from the emperor. (??? Emperor? Aren't they led by a queen?)
-I find a new type of shard calls tear of reality, which create a portal to a time I need to go. But the fate tell me to go to ancient eras every time. (??? Why the fate call me so?)
-The whisper from epoch shards I hold when I arrive at temple of eterra ask me if I've come to make it whole and speaks of Eterra’s demise. After that, they led me to what I need to go.
-I defeat the emperor here and get the last epoch shard.

(Oh. Chapter 4 is for this thing, it explains the story behind the outcasts and the emperor. Go on making my note tomorrow.)

Part 1: #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[pine dome]

Hi Mike, does those 2 work together giving me 12 stacks per hit?

[placid plinth]

I'd have to check to be sure but I think so. The main reason I think it works is that warpath modifies the chance so it's likely just giving you the stat "1000% chance to apply Fiery Inquisition on melee hit". If it is just a stat being handed out (likely) then generic increases to all stats like from Covenant of Light, should apply to it. And yes, 20% increase on 1000% is 1200%

would be really easy to test in game though wouldn't it?

[crude plover]

Speaking of warpath, I was wondering how it worked in regards to why it seemingly doesn't really snapshot even though my intuition tells me it should with how I understand it working.

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

Since it seems like a bit of an outlier in that regard

[placid plinth]

right, totally forgot about that. I'll have to do some digging to find out why. Warpath is kinda crazy. It has had to be manually warped around so many effects.

I just sort of accept that it's a weird one. I'm actually working on it right now.

[crude plover]

Yeah it made me really interested in it since it seems so unique

[manic crown]

I don't think the 20% effect would make any difference, if you use vengeance + iron blade you trigger it every 2nd attack, when I played it didn't trigger twice in a row ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[placid plinth]

Just checked, it doesn't work. It probably has something to compensate for that because it's not worded as a stat or something.

[crude plover]

@pine dome ^

[pine dome]

Yeah , I asked the question before thinking how I could test it sorry

😄 Sadge its not working

[placid plinth]

It would take 5 hits with full buff if it was working and 6 if it isn't.

[pine dome]

It does take 6 hits

With 5 pts

Btw , if you were to get to like lets say 65 stacks with your last hit. Does triggering the explosion remove all stacks and leave you at 0? Or it consume 60 stacks and leave you at 5 ?

[eternal zinc]

All details we can know so far (part 3)

• Chapter 4
  The 2nd dungeon
  -Soulfire bastion is ruled by an Imperial called Cremorus who is experimenting with different kinds of soul magic, trying to fix the soul shortage by infusing souls with elemental fire to varying success.
  -The soul gambler, Formosus, can't accept undead on undead sabotage so ask me to help.
  -No info about why I can get many soul embers from enemies in dungeon but they're
  the currency for the trade...? (??? This part relevant to gameplay design more so I'm confused what the relationship between gameplay and the story)
  -Kill the imperial, Cremorus is the final part, then I can go back to main story.

The story
-All gods died in a war in divine era. (??? Why a war here? Why it happen? What it happen? When it happen? How it end?)
-An opportunistic person become a emperor with immortal power they found and use it to rule Welryn thousands of years, from divine era to imperial era. (??? Who found that? How are they found? Why this power is sustainable?)
-Immortal army of emperor is perished slowly over the years.
-Orobyss become the new emperor, then...? No story to continue.
-I travel to imperial era by following Gasper's guide, see outcasts are stopping whatever led the void in, which mean stop emperor.
-A truth I found from the behind of sealed door after took the seal from past time is immortal gift from emperor isn't immortal without draining living essence.
-It's why the immortal empire is perished slowly and the emperor turned into the void after years. Living essences are scarce, more and more zombies are stacked.
-Yulina, the queen of outcast, is the key to find where emperor is. (??? Wait what can I stop by killing the emperor? How am I know Yulina is the only flaw for getting close to the emperor?)
-Alric, a mage who know where the entrance of emperor's hideout, was captured and located in the west of Welryn, it's what I know after rescued a prisoner and used a magical ring he left. (??? I don't understand who's the ring's owner and... I don't know how to active the magic but I know where outcast's hideout is? Alright the logic is quite chaos)
-I go to lake liath, where outcasts are settled, met a seer, be told Alric was captured by Admiral Harton. (??? Harton was took the order of emperor to capture Alric? Why emperor dispatch him to capture Alric? Alric is the only person who knows where emperor hides?)
-I catch up Harton on his dreadnaught and rescue Alric, decide to jump off the ship with him to reach a beach.

• Chapter 5
  -My goal is find the teleporter to sneak into backdoor of emperor's citadel. (I'm mot sure if I understand it right and why I need to find a teleporter)
  -Alric have an ally in Maj’elka. This ally will help me going to there but we need to...

Jesus...What the hell the story actually is... It's quite chaos... I get a headache. Go on figuring out chapter 5 tomorrow.

Part 2: #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[livid oar]

Hey! Any plans to ever make plushies for some of the cuter things like chronowyrms (edit: ESPECIALLY THE GUPPIES)? 😊

[placid plinth]

omg I would love that! I haven't heard any plans to do it but I would be super on board myself.

[livid oar]

Please let us know someday, I really appreciate the smaller cuter things like that and I'm sure many others do too, I'd eat it up! Or maybe some of the other cosmetic pets 🥰. thanks for taking the time to answer that!

[final cave]

Come on Krafton. Get yer act together. Merch me up

[buoyant bone]

Can there be a combo deal for a Bee, Chronowyrm and a Grole plushies

[finite moon]

Quick ask the dev question. I know you've announced PlayStation launch for new expansion, is there any timeline you can confirm for a xbox release also? 😊 thanks

[flint bloom]

there is not. when there is, it will be announced

[placid plinth]

This is a Legendary Amulet and 4 of the categories of outcomes. There are more categories of outcomes than just this.

Each category that makes positive changes has a very large pool of potential outcomes. Pictured below is adding another affix from the normal pool and adding an affix from the corrupted pool.

There are other categories. I just thought that putting 'You gain Madness" on an item would be too esoteric and would create way too many questions.

should have tried 1 more time on stream

[flint bloom]

^ for clarity for those who didnt catch stream, the first amulet was the original, and the other 4 are possible outcomes

almost to 1k mike.

[placid plinth]

good call, I added a little caption

and I'll be over 1k before next stream for sure

[crude plover]

Is there a reason for the "ruined item" subtext to be added to the item in that particular outcome? How come removing the legendary affixes didn't count as it being "ruined" for example?

[placid plinth]

I'm not sure what deails I can share about that yet but I've asked. It is end of day on friday so I doubt I'll get a reply quickly, sorry.

[static birch]

Im just here to say that im very surprised at how seemingly pedestrian the outcomes are considering the dramatic effects "corrupting" items apply in other games in the genre. I want to assume that these examples are mild on purpose

[spare epoch]

As of now, I don't see any reason to risk corruption on anything that isn't easily replacable, as the gains on the outcomes appear really meh. At best I'd roll a MG char and look for someone else to take the risks and just farm gold to buy it.

I was expecting corruption to be something like +skill affixes or other effects you can't normally get. I can't see that I'd want to risk something like a 2 LP Nihilus for maybe getting an additional +necrotic resistance affix, or a slight bonus to crit multiplier that also comes with a negative.

[placid plinth]

So I guess I need to put this in the text but as I was explaining on stream, these are some of the categories of things that can happen. There is a very wide range of outcomes in each of these and other categories. We are scratching the surface here.

There are unique effects that you can't get anywhere else, much more interesting that just plain old + skills.

I guess if we don't show the best outcome, the ones that are shown are assumed to be the best. Personally I wouldn't want to know the possible outcomes before playing.

[static birch]

Would we be getting a better idea of the potential range of things we could get corrupted onto items in the future before the patch comes out?
I think that knowing at least some of the potential extremes could help generating interest and expectations out of these systems

[placid plinth]

yea, when we do the usual system devblog we'll have much more details, this is just an early teaser. We are just under 2 months out from the patch still.

[manic crown]

Hi Mike, I know Upheaval is an old skill but was the design intentional with a tradeoff by having Shockwave replace Upheavals hit and deal less damage but instead have AoE?

[placid plinth]

ruined is "can't be equipped" we just wanted to let you keep it for posterity if you wanted. I expect it to be dropped most of the time.

[placid plinth]

yea, that's a very common tradeoff, gonna hit more things? deal less damage to each.

[manic crown]

If Upheaval (lets say it has a lot of AoE) hit 5 thorn totems and they all produce a shockwave, do you know if it would hit the enemy 5 times or register as 1 hit?

[placid plinth]

I'm not sure but it shouldn't be too hard to test really, give your minions some ailment chance and go to the test dummy, you'll be able to tell quite quickly if they all apply or not.

[eternal zinc]

I understand why rune of corrupted is purple suddenly

[final cave]

Can I turtle it?

[eternal zinc]

All details we can know so far (part 4)

• Chapter 5

The story
-My goal is find the teleporter to sneak into backdoor of emperor's citadel. (I'm mot sure if I understand it right and why I need to find a teleporter)
-Alric have an ally in Maj’elka. it's a oracle.
-A friendly imperial scholar/historian told me the exist of Nagasa, a serpent like race that served under Majasa after wanted me help for some research don't approve by Zerrick.
-Nagasa lives under a caste system that is each represented by a gem (Emerald-Lower Class, Ruby-Warriors, Sapphire-Scholars, Diamond-Upper Class). Maj'elka is their home and Majasa rules Maj'elka. (Am I right?)
-Before I meet the Oracle, you decide to help one of them, the Shrine Maiden, with the people’s water shortage first by finding a water tablet in the Ruined Era once used by the Sapphire Nagasa to purify water.
-The entrance of temporal sanctum is near where water tablet is so I head toward the door, it's a palace no one knows its exist.
-The oracle is a diamond nagasa, know me and know me have an epoch but surprised to see me.
-Zerrick is mining a dead titan and using its innard to power a makeshift waypoint they made when the Oracle opens a hidden path to the teleporter you seek. (??? Why the story tell me that? I even no idea who Zerrick is and why he is here)
-I used the teleporter with Alric after defeated Zerrick and sneak into somewhere near the emperor’s citadel.

The 3rd dungeon
-**I must say it's the story make the most sense so far. Very cool. **
-Julra, a nasaga chronomancer come from divine era and travel to ruined era, have the same findings with me.
-The finding is the void will cause a devastation, she tried to prevent what she saw from future happen so she asked Apophis for help but she got no response. (??? I'm curious about the story of Apophis now.)
-Julra built a sanctum to allow anyone come straight to her, but they must own epoch because it's a palace can be pass through by switching timeline only.
-Julra was trapped in ruined era because eternal cache she possessed can buff her but it's the cost she must pay.
-I own the epoch so I come to pursue her but Julra lost her mind after be trapped so long time so I have to defend myself and kill her, get access for using eternal cache is the plus.

• Chapter 6
  -I meet Yulia, the right hand of the emperor, an immortal undead that is friendly to you and wants to help you take him down. But neither she nor Alric trusts each other.
  -Alric leads you through aqueducts and sewers as close as he can to the capital, but his knowledge of the Emperor’s Citadel is limited and eventually I'm forced to trust Yulia.
  -Once you are alone with Yulia, she acts like she knows me and bring me to the citadel through sewers because sewers can cover the stench from imperial patrols.
  -It was a trap. Yulia betrays you and both Harton and Zerrick get resurrected, Alric is dead without a reason. (?????????????????????????? Sorry my brain can't analyze this part. I give the original paragraph here if anyone interested in helping me.)

Part 3: #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

Original paragraph:

You deal with Yulia, kill off Harton and Zerrick, again, but before the emperor can finish you off, he is frozen in place by Yulia, the betrayer. Yulia tells you now’s your chance to use the Lance of Heorot to finish off the emperor. You obviously don’t have it nor know what she is talking about. So, what is she talking about? Well, in a few moments you will travel back in time to your time, to the Divine Era, where you will meet Yulia from your time and indeed make plans to get and prepare the Lance of Heorot as a god killing weapon. Yulia is not a time traveler like you, so your paths crossed in the wrong order. From her point of view, you made the plan, got the Lance, prepared it and are now in possession of it to kill whatever threat you face, that threat being the emperor right now. You take the opportunity to escape and leave undead Yulia behind to be killed off camera for her betrayal (once the emperor is no longer impaled).

1.0 Edit: So, they made a cinematic, which makes things way more ambiguous and quite possibly changes a few things. For starters Yulia doesn’t seem to know you’re a time traveler now like she did before 1.0 and she doesn’t talk about you lying to Alric about who you really were. She’s not the one telling you to go to the past anymore for the lance so (you just randomly end up there) that fixes a bootstrap paradox, but it now makes the player doubly confused about what the hell just happened. Also, you can’t understand Alric dies unless you click on him now.

So, why it's a trap? Why Yulia want to make a trap? Why Alric is died?

[long anvil]

The support is terrible. No response to messages. Lack of understanding for the player. One single answer to the task, and then zero answers. Please pass the information to the support to respond to emails when someone writes.

[jovial pumice]

Hello Mike, will there be a limit to how many corrupted items I can equip?

[misty bobcat]

Each category that makes positive changes has a very large pool of potential outcomes. Pictured below is adding another affix from the normal pool and adding an affix from the corrupted pool.
Hi Mike. Do the negative changes draw from a similarly large pool of potential outcomes? Tbh. none of the outcomes shown above are worth the risk.

[placid plinth]

Maybe not for your first red ring but people will be taking the risk.

And no, there are just a few negative, bricked is bricked, no point in making hundreds of flavors of bricked.

But that's not really what you should care about, the chance of bad or good outcome in general is the risk factor

[manic crown]

Looks like 1 Upheaval regardless of hits from monsters or totems producing Shockwaves only hit once, I would expect totems to at least hit multiple times because of investments.

[delicate osprey]

Can we expect a good load of content for the endgame beside those runes of corruption? I dont ask for content to be revealed, i just want to get hyped 🙂

[crude plover]

We know that we're getting echo chains and omen windows which would both be endgame things. You'll have to wait on further details regarding them

[delicate osprey]

alright ty 🙂

[placid plinth]

Yea, we are just starting to spin up teasers as we've just crossed 2 months out from the patch.

[eternal zinc]

Any cool environment concept art available to check out? The whole picture. I don't mean teasers like a part of something as a screenshot.

[placid plinth]

Nothing new. There are some things on the media page of the website.

[edgy copper]

One quick question, since I'm not 100% clear on it, will runes of corruption be able to be applied to any items? Mostly wondering about Set items
Edit: I also wonder about if it can remove base affixes on the items, for example, if it would be able to remove the "evade turns into summon crab" for the crab ring

[placid plinth]

Technically no but I'm stretching the definition of item a little to be the literal thing. It can affect set items. I'm not going to go into more detail on specific types of things it can or can't do yet.

[crude plover]

Corrupted blessings!?

[placid plinth]

That's right, blessings are items.

[crude plover]

Corrupted CoF lenses

[placid plinth]

those are also items

[edgy copper]

yeah I figured, my question was mostly about Sets, since some of them are pretty nutty items that offer something unique (shattered lance sword w/ decimate, isadora's belt with castspeed) so being able to add something to those items might make them a bit more usable at endgame, which sounds fun
Edit: heck with the amount of armor isadora's belt provides if it gets cleanse/health of some sort I can see it being used a fair bit

[eternal zinc]

wait what?! Corrupted blessings and lens?! It's surprising.

[crude plover]

No

We're saying those are items, not that they're corrupt able

[eternal zinc]

????
Corrupts an item in description of rune of corruptions don't mean blessings and lens can be corrupted if they're items?

Corrupted gears sounds boring but lens and blessings are different

[fleet galleon]

Quest items are also items
You can't corrupt them either.
Simply because it's an item doesn't mean you can corrupt it

[eternal zinc]

Simple. Craft a quest for "tell players to corrupt the quest item"

[crude plover]

Yep, that's what Mike clarified when he said "technically no" in this message #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message . The word "item" is usually used to mean equipment or similar, so something like a CoF lens wouldn't count.

[delicate osprey]

I think mike also showed in one dev stream, that every item which is moveable into the crafting slot can be corrupted, but i am not 100% sure

[crude plover]

Now I'm not saying you can or can't do anything. Just conveying the meaning of the previous messages since it seems you thought mike confirmed we're getting corrupted lenses and blessings, which he did not.

[eternal zinc]

Why exact details for which things can be corrupted can't be spoiled? We need the range, please

[fleet galleon]

Too early, still working on things
A lot of the details should be found by the community instead of being told this early that "here are all the possible results on all the items that you can"

[crude plover]

He showed that class idols are able to be moved into the crafting menu but not generic ones, hinting that maybe you'd be able to corrupt class idols (which to be fair you could deduce from the fact that the rune of corruption mentions weavers touch)

[eternal zinc]

If class idols can be corrupted, I can't find reasons why normal idols and unique idols can't.

(Wait, what about corrupting keys? 🤔 They're items too. Hah what happen if different woven echoes are corrupted? Corrupted blessings and lens is a cool idea. I know the hardest part is figure out which buff players want to see from them)

Players must play a long time to find enough runes of corruptions to verify which items can be corrupted I'm sure. So this question must time-consuming to find answers. It's why I want to ask it here to get many hints to be effective.

Due to Mike don't spoiler more details, I can't give feedback.

[quartz patrol]

Normal idols can’t be put in the forge so you couldn’t corrupt them

[tulip ivy]

You also can’t give feedback on something that hasn’t been released. Let it release, read the patch notes, use the new item and then you can provide feedback

[verbal pine]

dang it i got a good question but i prob should wait till march 26th...=(

[placid plinth]

I love all the theories. So far the only items that we have explicitly confirmed to be corrupt-able are legendary and set items.

There are (hopefully obviously) many more but those are the only ones we've actually explicitly said I think.

We will be sharing details of the full range of the system in a devblog as usual.

I'm glad people are interested and speculating on what is to come. This is a teaser after all.

[quaint spindle]

what are the possible outcomes if we Corrupt Mike?

[placid plinth]

Gotta make me an item first

[quaint spindle]

Beardman's Set - clearly

lol

[final cave]

Ruined

[buoyant bone]

Mikes note: unique idol

• spawns a big bee
• your attacks are casted/from the bee
• all your attacks are beechoed (bee echo) this is separate from regular echos
• you deal 60% less damage

Corrupting it changes what the minion guy is

[quaint spindle]

https://tenor.com/bTQSR.gif

[eternal zinc]

Thanks, I burst into laughing on an angry morning after read that.

(I wonder what happen if we can corrupt Muffin/Judd too)

[quaint spindle]

Judd I am sure would just become an Meteor come to life lol

corrupted muffins just become cupcakes

[eternal zinc]

Advanced question: What happen if we can corrupt this server?

[eternal zinc]

Oh I see. We will get an epoch to control over time. Perfect.

[sinful nacelle]

@placid plinth
I don't know where to put this type of feed back besides Reddit. I hope EHG sees this.
EHG Mike showed up 4 "teasers" for S4 with corruption.
3 of them was BAD, negative corruption. In one of the 4 teasers the "best" result was a + to a resistance .
This was not exciting. It did not create hype for the new system coming in S4.
In fact it had the opposite effect.
The example shown from EHG and Mike on Friday was a Nihilis, Let me think about this. How long does it take to kill Aberroth on a fresh season start?
40-60 hours? Maybe I'm wrong on this time. I'm sure it varies from player to player.
We all know getting a "Good Nihilis" take multiple kills where getting a Nihilis that does not have negative effects on it from default, is sometimes a rare as hell.
How how long would it take to get a 2 LP Nihilis? 100-120 hours a of game time?
Now then getting the perfect Exalted item to slam into a 2 LP Nihilis?
1 Affix we can guarantee to be transferred to this amazing new item we got, and one affix is at random (We all know the 2nd one is going to be one affix we don't want to come over.)
After all this time and effort we now try to go corrupt it! And we get what?
Bricking the item? Downgrading from a legendary? Getting negative crit chance?
Now why would I ever interact with this new system knowing that I will more then likely make this item, I just spent 100-120 hours on getting rolled just more my character.
To make it worse?
No, nope, hell no.
I will not interact with this system. Why would I ever try to take that chance? This is BAD! Really BAD!

If it stays like this, I have no plans to interact with this system.
I mean really, why would I want to engage for a bad outcome?

EHG please change this before the season comes out.

[crude plover]

Feedback of any kind goes to #feedback . The channel gets logged and reviewed regularly, while this channel doesn't.

[hollow agate]

To be honest it is little too early for feedback on this feature. We don't know enough. What are the chance to destroy item? is it 50% like in the teaser or something very different ? what are the new affixes ? what are the chance to get a high Tier of affixes ? Is there a mean to reduce the chance to destroy the item?

There are scenarios where there is a possibility to upgrade items this way. You have your 2LP nihilis on you and you try the 1LP one to get a juiced new affixes eventually better than what you have on you... You still have your main amulet if that fails.

Anyway, It is not like we need anything, as there is no endgame challenge inaccessible nor difficult right now everything is doable with 1LPitem with a decent build, except uberoth that is so unbalanced that he is only doable if you take the insanely unbalanced too overpowered build with multiple more damage modifier layers and if you don't use them, you could have all free affixes on your stuff it would still be very inaccessible because you can't make for the multiple 100% more damage you are missing so.... Whatever... Lets hope the HUGE balance work is done at season 4 with bear damage reduce by 95% , cinderstrike improve by 600% etc etc... Then maybe these craft layers will have a meaning.

[placid plinth]

Feel free to criticize me and the way we presented a sneak peek into some of the categories of corruption.

Please take some time to consider the possibilities of what else could change, what other items it could be used on. Please reserve judgement on the system itself until you know how it works.

I realize that is hard to do.

I'll post the same thing on your Reddit post.

[exotic kindle]

I have a strong feeling it is intended to gauge community reaction to the bad outcomes so they can tweak it if they see fit.

[placid plinth]

Nope, I literally just thought people would be excited at the possibilities.

[eternal zinc]

lol it's EHG's feature. Think a thing too simple

Nice to see you! Surprised to catch a unsleepy Mike.

[placid plinth]

Also, the idea that it could be a 50% chance for a bad outcome is so absurd to me that I didn't even consider that it could be assumed that was what we were saying. We didn't give enough information and the worst case scenario was assumed. In hindsight, we probably should have just not shared anything until the devblog explains it all but I thought people would want to see it so I asked for it.

[eternal zinc]

Not your fault, it's EHG's culture. It's a double-sided blade. But I will want to know all details if you EHG want to share an exciting content.

[deft perch]

It is human nature to assume the worst case scenario in the vacuum of incomplete information.
I think it is better to not share too much, a lot of the fun imo is going to be the discovery process that happens within the community when people start posting some of their awesome outcomes and god-teir rolls. Then everyone will know what is possible and what to chase.

[delicate osprey]

Thank you for the teasers mike, i hope you know that many people were very thankful for getting a glimp of the new crafting feature comming in season 4. Ofc we hope that taking the risk gives us some very good possible outcomes for many builds (or maybe every build). I will wait for the official release before I can say something to that

[mental flame]

Sorry if my reddit comment came off that way, I was just trying to gauge the odds. Since its so similar to PoE's corruption mechanic, it was a quick jump to compare it to their double corrupt odds (4 possibilities showed, just like it).

[sinful nacelle]

Thank you for the response, I hope you know that I make these criticisms because I love the game that you make and that is why I’m passionate on my critique of the system.
We love seeing previews and teasers every week, but if all we see is negative outcomes on an item I don’t know what EHG wants us to think about the system.
If it is not this bad, then please show us good outcomes of a system, and the bad outcomes.

[flint bloom]

so in this instance...the 3rd and 4th outcomes are 'good'. now 'good' or 'positive' can be pretty subjective based on the item and such.

the 3rd outcome you get an extra 14% necro res (or any res presumably). that is a net positive. that is 'good'. now is it 'good enough' to warrant gambling a 2lp nihilus...prolly not. is that worth gambling a leveling bridge item...maybe?

the 4th outcome you get 22% crit multi and lose 39% inc crit chance. overcapping crit is pretty easy for some builds, and some skills auto crit...so that multi can be nice with little/no downside on some builds. overall probly a net positive. now again, is it 'good enough' to warrant gambling a 2lp nihilus...prolly not. is it worth on other less premier gear, maybe?

we dont know tiers either...that res is t2 on normal crafting...so possibly could go up to t7 like normal crafts as well

[sinful nacelle]

Yes I see 14 resistance as a not good outcome. It is barely useful at all.

And yes losing crit chance I also see as a negative and bad outcome.

[flint bloom]

but it IS useful, however small. and therefor a 'good'. thats why perspective matters on this subject.

by the time you are wearing a 2lp double t7 nihilus...yeah you likely dont need that 14% res (unless barbute or something but still you've already done the content your build is fine). i think part of the issue is they showed it on such a high tier item that almost no one is going to gamble on so that first instinct is 'no way'. but if we can do that same gamble on more common items, then that cost goes down

and tbf i didnt like anything they showed either for the corrupting. but i can see from the dev POV how those outcomes could be seen as 'good'

and with how little we know, i still have hope they have some much juicier outcomes

[sinful nacelle]

I keep being told that corruption is based on PoE Vaal or something.
I don’t play PoE and have no idea what that is.
Don’t know how it works.

But if it gives good outcomes, why could EHG not show us a good outcome as well as a bad one?

People who don’t know what the system is or why we should be excited about it . It was my first time seeing corrupted items and they all have negative outcomes. What am I supposed to think about the system? most of the time I’m just going to brick and/or downgrade an item?
That suck!

It was my first time seeing something with this system. I’m sure it was other people’s first time seeing this as well and all we seen was negative outcomes.

[flint bloom]

imma ping you in a diff channel so we dont clog this channel with a conversation

[sinful nacelle]

I don’t understand.
You thought we would be excited at seeing
1: bricking an item you can’t put on.
2: down grading the item
3: losing crit chance.
4: getting +14 resistance

Out of the 4 teasers we got.
What one did you think would make the fan base excited?

I’m sorry but I didn’t get excited.
It made me think I’m never engaging with the system.
Because it’s not worth the risk for the outcome.

[hoary frigate]

I do agree with Thanos. I had expected smth more exciting like corrupting mods that give some gameplay changing options. Smth special. For now it is meh to be honest. sorry

[eternal zinc]

I want to see details about corrupted blessings and woven echoes if EHG plan to do that

[fleet galleon]

There are no corrupted blessings.
You were told this yesterday.

[verbal pine]

hey mike thanks for sharing what you shared. outside of the negative comments (most are grifters, doomers, etc.) there were alot who aew excited and optimistic on what you guys are cooking. cant wait for mar 26th!

[eternal zinc]

Sentinel rework in 1.2 = All sentinel skills are updated
Rogue updates in 1.4 = A new rogue skill + parts of rogue skills are updated? Or I understand it wrongly?

Context: "rogue updates" appear in the roadmap.

[crude plover]

Not all sentinel skills were majorly changed in 1.2

actually most weren't

[eternal zinc]

:(

[placid plinth]

So what I was trying to show in the teaser is some of the categories. In my mind I showed:

1. Bricked
2. Bricked but usable still
3. A mod that already exists.
4. A new mod

What I hoped people would get excited about is the possibilities this implies.

I'm not saying these can happen but I was expecting these questions to be theorized about:

1. Which other existing mods can it get and can they go outside normal slot restrictions?
2. What new mods could exist and how many of them are there?
3. What other items types can be corrupted.
4. Can other things about the item change in any way and are the options type specific?

[placid plinth]

Thanks 😄 I'm very excited about it too.

[pine chasm]

Some people just will never be happy with corrupting items because of risk aversion. I think the reveal of some exclusive affixes and hinting at other special outcomes is pretty neat. I hope the ruined items get an overlay (like the fractured items of old) or become untradeable or something as MG QoL.
Thanks for sharing teasers, as always!

[sinful nacelle]

Maybe I am too jaded of a person and look at the bad aspects of things.
I don't like to day dream about what "could be", or what I want to be. Because those things are not real and most likely not going to happen.

Example: I remember getting excited about the season of Necromancer getting updated, Oh just think of what they could change, update, balance improvements! OMG its going to be awesome!
Back to reality, it was the season of Beastmaster dominating and being 500% better then Necromancer.
What did I get in the end? Disappointment.
Again better not to assume what is coming and set myself up for disappointment.

When I see 3 teasers with bad outcomes, and I don't see any good positive outcomes.
I just don't know what I am trying to conjure in my minds eye to think will be a good outcome.

Again this is not me attacking you. Even though I am criticizing more then normal today.
I hope you know this.

I think you are awesome. No other company gives us Dev Live streams every week to look forward too.
That is a BIG win for EHG doing those. That goes way beyond other studios. Again thank you for these!
Last Epoch is my favorite ARPG and want it to be the best.

Just please for a marketing standpoint in the future, show us bad outcomes, but also show us something that would make us think about what "could be" posable.
Because +14 resistance or a curse/kiss stat does not generate excitement. Sorry.

[verbal pine]

my fingers are crossed that unique affixes with percentages can be boosted. ex: harbingers of stars chance to cast meteor on crit 9% can be increased. i imagine that prob would be hard to code though. 53 more days!
would be so peaked but i guess broken at the same (looking at you red ring)

i already dropped it in suggestions just in case

[eternal zinc]

Sorry Kyle, no time to read Eterra's story today. My notes will go on updating after 10h.

[vital shard]

the system will be well received once it is used,
I threw away or sacrificed plenty of legendaries once I replaced them or failed to get the right affixes
it is great for another reroll for those items otherwise unusable

[placid plinth]

Yea, I think the system is good, I'm just still learning how to tease content after all these years.

[eternal zinc]

Rogue updates in 1.4 = A new rogue skill + parts of rogue skills are updated or all rogue skills (marksman + falconer + bladedancer) will get updated?
(I want to ask the definition)

Context: "rogue updates" appear in the roadmap.

[timid fjord]

2 new rogue skills, Bladestorm and Shadow Rend.
I would also assume most skills get small number changes since part of rogue's passive tree is also getting update

[spiral mason]

Been away for a bit, did EHG walk back on the paid DLC classes outside of the expansion for Orobyss?

[timid fjord]

While they are still ways off and things might change in any direction, the last confirmed information we have is that the paradox classes will be paid content.

[vital shard]

I have another theory that people use games for more than just fun.......and forgot they shouldn't mean anything else. Fun.

[eternal zinc]

All details we can know so far (part 5)

Rahyeh has Osprix, Majasa has Nagasa, Lagon has Meruna and Heorot had Wengari. (extra world setting, added in part 1 now)

• Chapter 7

The story
-Rahyeh is waging war on the Keepers and the other gods, starting with Heorot.
-I know Rahyeh plan to kill Heorot so I want to catch up but I'm unable to reach in time.
-Yulia meet me after I'm forced to watch Heorot's death, she's forced to trust me because Heorot does
-Heorot's lance is the only weapon known to kill or otherwise incapacitate a god, and it only did so with one-time blessings that need to be gathered again
-Rahyeh can only be stopped with the lance but it needs the other gods’ blessings along with Heorot’s.
-Heorot gave his son the lance, his son in a tree in Farwood, north of Heoborea, where can be accessed from Heorot's temple only.
-I need to find Heorot's horn in a nearby nomad camp to enter Heorot's temple.
-Wengari raided the camp before I reached here and took the horn away to their fortress unfortunately.
-I reach the fortress, get the horn, enter the temple, access the lance, blessed by Heorot before he died.

The 4th dungeon (No idea what should I call for the arena)
-Wengari are mostly nomadic, tribal and their relationship with people varies from tribe to tribe and even with individuals.
-Most of the Wengari are not followers of Heorot anymore though and as such my enemy.
-But I find a friendly tribe in champion's gate, this tribe built an arena for duals between humans and wengari. I'm welcomed to do some training and compete in arena.

• Chapter 8

-I get to a Heoborean harbor, clear the pier from Rahyeh’s forces and catch a ride to Lake Liath.
-Once at Lake Liath you separate from Yulia and Grael with the plan to meet up in Thetima. (I don't understand this storyline at all. It's about how am I meet Yulia and what had I experienced with Yulia.)
-I try and find Lagon’s right-hand gal, the Architect Liath and started the plan from reaching her tower.
-Liath shuts down any attempts to speak with Lagon immediately, tells me to just wait in the first meeting.
-Lagon is apparently prone to tantrums, sulks in his underwater temple a lot and rarely ever deals with his subjects. Liath dealing everything for Lagon after Lagon saved Liath's life while she was young. She was trying to protect everyone but ended up protecting no one.
-I reach Thetima and meet up with Yulia and Grael and found a captain who willing to take me to island of Lagon later, his name is...Harton.
-Once I get to the Island of Lagon and despite the warning of Liath, I'm attacked by Meruna, the citizen of Lagon. The case is worse when I'm in Lagon's temple because Lagon attack me with his tentacles and Meruna.
-I met Liath again after many combats, Liath knows how to talk to Lagon to minimize his outbursts and cannot risk an outsider to trigger a tantrum by upsetting him but I can't persuade her, I have to kill her at last.
-I reach Lagon but my chat don’t start until Lagon deems my worthy to speak. Once my skills entertain him enough, I plead my case. Lagon amused by Heorot gave his lance to me so he gave me his blessing too.
-Harton listened my words about abandoning his worship of Lagon after he encountered attack from Meruna, he's my ally now.

Additional: I'm not sure what the story of Grael, Morditas and Yrun is, actually and what the relationship with the main story is. I feel Liath is an interesting person to learn more. I admired her personality.

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[crude plover]

Are these questions?

[timid junco]

think you posted in the wrong channel @eternal zinc

[eternal zinc]

I want to confirm do I understand the story right so I typed what I got from reading, plus questions for a few details if I have.

Which channel should I go if it's not a right place?

[placid plinth]

Just consisting the length, I don't think I know the details well enough to refute it.

[eternal zinc]

(I never think they're for Mike because he isn't the writer. All of my notes are for Kyle to check but I don't know which place available else for this purpose)

[worldly marten]

if i use "Corsair's Blood Cowl" and the "Legends Entwined" ring (counts as a part of any set) on a rogue, converting all the glancing blow chance to block chance, but won't wear a shield, will my block effectiveness be 0?

[placid plinth]

unless you get block effectiveness from somewhere else, yes. Base block effectiveness is 0

[eternal zinc]

Do Holly is the leader of the whole game designer team so she's your leader, Mike?

[placid plinth]

It's a little more complicated than that but when something needs deciding on from a mechanical design standpoint, Holly is the final word.

[final cave]

Y'all cooking UI updates? That monthly newsletter UI looks shinier

[placid plinth]

Always, there is one I really like for 1.4 and another sweet one for 1.5. wish I could say more.

[eternal zinc]

All details we can know so far (part 6)

• Chapter 9
  -Scalebane are a group of gloried bandits that started out as a rebellion towards the Nagasa’s rule in Maj’elka, forcing people to pay "protection tax".
  -On my way to Maj’elka you free a Scalebane prisoner named Zerrick (lol the same name again?!). He offers his assistance in exchange for his rescue, I bond with them and journey together immediately.
  -Yulia and Harton are busy with different things when I'm on the journey.
  -Maj’elka is a city made up of both slums and roads paved with gold, side by side. (??? What is it mean? Lower-class and upper-class have a edge clearly?)
  -Nagasa surrendered the slums and lower districts to Scalebane and closed themselves off in their temple. (??? What Nagasa experienced?)
  -I'm forced to find alternative ways to access Majasa's temple because the temple is closed publicly for the first time.
  -Zerrick is the best choice to ask for help, I head to slums after heard his plan that kill the head of scalebane and he can become the new one.
  -I found the Scalebane leader been replaced by an Emerald Nagasa after I reached (??? I don't understand what the sense of this new head for the story is)
  -Nagasa want the ritual of Apophis' sacrifice to occur for their goddess, but they figured out Apophis is delving into forbidden magic to delay it
  -Apophis hired an assassin to rescue her on the ritual but this plan knew by Nagasa (??? There hides a different option for rogue and non-rogue players? I don't know that)
  -Stealing a giant Eagle from the Osprix nearby and flying onto the temple is the plan after Zerrick become the new head of scalebane.
  -Before I make my way to Osprix camp, I must select one faction.
  -Zerrick used to try to fly Talon (the Osprix we stole) when he was selling weapons to the Osprix but Talon be shot down soon and crashed on the temple. (??? Who shot Talon and why they know Talon is flying to the temple?)
  -The temple is crawling with all types of Nagasa who are trying their best to stop you from reaching Majasa.
  -I witness Apophis and Majasa cut loose and talk down to each other after reached Majasa's chamber. Apophis is breaking the cycle of Vessel Maidens who sacrificed their lives for Majasa to live. She uses the void to corrupt Majasa with the torment of the Vessel Maidens she’d consumed. (??? So Apophis is a good person because the one who sacrificed countless lives to get immortal is Majasa? She want to end the traditional ritual so she calls out to Orobyss but she doesn't know Orobyss will bring void and void will corrrupt everything?)
  -I'm forced to defeat Majasa and use her blood to get her blessing, but a bigger problem wait me to solve is stop the void brought by Apophis.
  -When I pursue Apophis further, she uses the power of the void to drain the Epoch and transport herself to the Ancient Era, with me.

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[static birch]

Just wondering - will there be a system that lets us break down bricked items? if so, we wouldnt have to graveyard / throw them away. It would be nice to at least salvage them for some resources

[hoary frigate]

wow according to Ettera monthly we 'll get DPS estimate shown in the minion subskills tooltip? reallY? maybe minions skills will get DPS shown too?

[solid torrent]

Hi, Mike! How are you?

Do corruption works differently, have higher potential or different outcomes with different types of items like exalteds or sets or is the same thing?
Can we expect some changes to exalted crafting alongside with corruption to maybe even the floor and compete directly with legendaries?
Based on what I saw, corruption will only increase the gap between legendaries and exalteds and I say that because pulling/crafting a GG exalted is even harder than getting a 2LP legendary with 7/7 affixes, so the risk vs reward should be adapted for different rarities of gear.
I think what I want to know the most is if exalted crafting is getting the attention/support it deserves so I'm not making all legendary builds for what 3 years now?
Although, "fixing" the legendary meta/the exalteds limitations doesn't need to be through corruption mechanic

[vital shard]

sacrifice?? i hope at least

[placid plinth]

Ruined items are the equivalent of destroyed. I'm pretty sure they are useless. I'm not sure if downgraded can be used in the current recycling methods but I hope so. I'll have to look into that.

[static birch]

It would be nice to prevent a case of generated e-junk

[placid plinth]

I haven't noticed it but I haven't been looking for it in so long haha. I'll see if it's there.

[placid plinth]

Extremely sore from getting my ass handed to me in hockey last night. Destroyed my knee so walking is brutal. Scored my first goal of the season though (only my 4th game due to injuries). So overall doing great!

Anyways, I can't quite answer every bit of that but in general yes. There are different things that corruption can do to different item type. We've shown a small sliver of the possibilities.

[solid torrent]

Game dev doing sports, thats new to me! Good luck recovering and thank you for the response.

[hoary frigate]

putting a dread shade on a single Rogue with the new Individual Operator is going to be hard. I mean targeting it in the crowd of buffing skellies and archers. Or... it shoud be made visually easily noticeable, big and cool

[worldly marten]

is there a way to force the game to use all cores/threads or does it not support multi-threading

[buoyant bone]

new challenge idea: defeat uber aberoth with a full set of ruined gear

[crude plover]

You can't equip ruined items

[buoyant bone]

but I can equip some ruined items already! (like the split greatsword)

[eternal zinc]

All details we can know so far (part 7)

Chapter 10
-Apophis always ahead me and left a void trail, I navigate the crystal cave... (??????? Can you tell me why a crystal cave is here?)
-I feel a presence watching you, observing your actions. This observer seems to be more intrigued by you than you are by it.
-I meet the mysterious observer by a projection, he's brother of Eterra, imprisoned by Eterra but he's unbothered by the fact, even complacent. He is curious about the world his sister created and fears he may undo her work unintentionally. He is more intrigued by the mystery that surrounds you than the answers to the fact.
-I face and defeat Apophis at the mountain, when she's misguidedly accuses you because future Orobyss gave her a lie about she can change her fate by that.
-Draal is known as a hive of giant insects. Upon an intense combat with a whole draal species for no good reason other than self-preservation after invading their home unintentionally, I go out of the mountain and on a coast.
-Titan, a farsight turtle, bears observer's blessing to take you across the water to a village.
-The small village I arrive calls the Garden. Its inhabitants are Wengari, Nagasa and Osprix who all apparently once lived in peaceful coexistence.
-I learn that Eterra think not just the Dragons but also Titans and other beasts that might harm her precious humans so she ordered the gods did not slay the Dragons, even after her disappearance. (??? I don't understand why dragons appear here suddenly)
-I go on my quest of reaching temple in the sky after I helped a couple to reunite but I met an issue.
-The issue is a nest of dragon eggs blocked the elevator tied to the chains that hold the temple in the sky.
-I solved this issue by destroying these eggs, have the parents of these eggs come after me but I pass this challenge later.
-Eterra's voice is echoing in a hall of status is only the steward of humanity and their legacy after I walk into the empty temple.
-Eterra revealed a secret in deeper hall, she never create people, all of existing humans/creatures are Elysians, they had a part in creating and will inevitably be the bigger threat you have to stop. (??? It mean a new era we may to travel?)
-Apophis revealed all of what she knows after confused about why the observer isn't orobyss. She have to free Orobyss to stop me. (??? Why she want to stop me?)
-The Observer is overwhelmed seeing fate’s design for the first time, of the future that inevitably leads to ruin. But he can change nothing after he tried multiple ways with multiple times. It drive him into mad and Eterra have to imprison her brother by a lotus cocoon.
-Eterra know fate had led the two of us here, her brother will definitely be free one day as the God of Fate, free to orchestrate everything. She's blame herself for not keeping him from surrendering to despair but does not blame either of us. (??? Us = Apophis and me?)
-Eterra broke the current Epoch off screen in front of your eyes into three parts and plans to scatter the pieces possibly entrusting them to a group of knowledge ones, keepers. (??? The story suppose to explain what keeper mean by showing the process here?)
-Eterra must channel all her power into the prison to keep Orobyss contained so the world can be peaceful for as long as possible but it mean her temple will fall down from the sky soon. She remarked the fate can't be stopped, can be delayed only.

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All notes are done.

Additional:

Many side stories or details which I'm not sure why they're here. They're:

1. Much like the other gods Majasa also plays favorite with her subjects, preferring to do her dealings with only certain matrons of the Diamond Nagasa (upper-class caste). Among them a Vessel Maiden is picked, a figure head that relays information to the public much like Liath for Lagon only with less autonomy or power. Not only that but the Vessel Maiden is a sacrificial role that one day will be killed off to empower Majasa, lengthening her life and power (Something Apophis hoped to prevent). Apophis addresses the crowd and talks about her freedom drawing near suggesting she has plans to escape her glorified slave position.

2. After you make your decision, you make way to the Osprix camp. To get there you go through the Oasis and run into a woman named Mahraan Zabat (probably the mother or ancestor of Rouj Zabat, the imperial historian we’d met), she is a Scalebane that is glad Zerrick is in charge now and wants your help with clearing the Crystal mines so they can restart their mining operations there (A different mining operation to where they eventually found the Titan).

3. He saw it as cruelty that it was even given life to begin with, no matter how beautiful that life could have been and he sees it as kindness to spare it past and future pain through the means of ending its existence via the void. (A sentiment that could have made Orobyss a neutral villain if not for the future weaponization of the void) He implies he is allowed to do this by Eterra only if it is an act of mercy.

4. Before you take him up on his offer you take a minor detour to talk to a Meruna on the cove and give him some honey you found. They are apparently tasked with keeping child Lagon happy so he in turn can keep humanity happy, a task given to them by Eterra. Lagon is not permitted on land it seems and depends on the Meruna to bring him exciting stuff from the surface to keep him happy. The mischievous Meruna are determined to find better and better things to make Lagon hooked on their help even more. This one even tries and fails to compel you into taking control of your mind, a trait that will eventually be perfected by Siren Meruna.

5. The teleporters you use, speculated to be made during the Ancient Era, are already present at this time, scattered throughout the world. With not even a hint towards their existence it is clear that whoever the Elysians were, were probably the true architects of these devices.

6. Grael is in Farwood because he had the idea to use the lance before you but Heorot being a peaceful god had forbidden it. Grael was waiting at the ready in case Heorot changed his mind and is devastated when he hears why he has. With Grael’s help, you reach the tomb of Morditas that is being protected by Yrun who is imprisoned inside a treant-like cage. Yrun was the former champion of Heorot (Grael being the current champion) and when Morditas rebelled he became his champion instead. It’s a bit ambiguous but I think after Morditas was frozen Yrun was both forgiven and punished by Heorot by becoming his son’s warden inside a prison of his own. Now Yrun is trying to stop you from freeing Morditas. You defeat Yrun, who is glad to die free and retrieve the lance which will eventually set Morditas free.

7. You deal with Yulia, kill off Harton and Zerrick, again, but before the emperor can finish you off, he is frozen in place by Yulia, the betrayer. Yulia tells you now’s your chance to use the Lance of Heorot to finish off the emperor. You obviously don’t have it nor know what she is talking about. So, what is she talking about? Well, in a few moments you will travel back in time to your time, to the Divine Era, where you will meet Yulia from your time and indeed make plans to get and prepare the Lance of Heorot as a god killing weapon. Yulia is not a time traveler like you, so your paths crossed in the wrong order. From her point of view, you made the plan, got the Lance, prepared it and are now in possession of it to kill whatever threat you face, that threat being the emperor right now. You take the opportunity to escape and leave undead Yulia behind to be killed off camera for her betrayal.

[placid plinth]

Just put a full set in your inventory and go in without anything equipped.

[placid plinth]

I'm not sure, I've asked.

[eternal zinc]

@plucky badge Solved, just one problem left, how to fix my understandings of Eterra's story and get answers for questions I had while reading :|
How to get my notes be viewed by Kyle?

[placid plinth]

It is going to automatically utilize what is available. You don't need to worry about trying to increase the usage.

[buoyant bone]

🧠 genius moves by mike

[merry abyss]

Are Rampant Coast rift beast damage purposefully broken? I can facetank literally anything, including Aberroth (except maybe slam), but a C300 beast just oneshots me with every skill it has.

Also, different topic. What can we expect of keeping existing builds in the game? I found builds fluctuating between seasons. Like the Serpent Venom Druid. I wanted to paly it this season, actually, because it seemed so fun and unique and a viable druid finally, just to see it being deleted from existance. Why though? That mastery has nothing to play, really... This one thing demotivated me from playing for months, because I started a Druid not knowing the build just got removed. What can we expect going forward regarding this? I think you should just buff random things at this point for classes that have 0-1 playable builds in end game, not take them away. (looking at Spellblade aswell) We had super broken stuff in every season anyways, nobody really cares, that is clear by now if some things turn out to be stronger than most.

[crude plover]

Serpent venom was bugged

[merry abyss]

How so? But then again, Druid is dead without it. Tornado Bear is too clunky. Awful build with that downtime.

[crude plover]

Don't remember exactly, I can try digging it up. But I think if an entire mastery hinges on a single node on one skill there's a bigger issue at hand, so fixing that build (it would obliterate ubby in one tick) shouldn't be viewed as them killing the one thing that made the mastery viable, the mastery was still unviable, the node was what was viable.

[merry abyss]

There were "ethical" versions of that build, as far as I've seen. But anyways, my point still stands with other builds

[crude plover]

So I can't find the patchnotes of the bug fix but I think what you're talking about was actually the balance change they did to it (iirc the bug fix happened before this, but I'm not entirely sure). But pretty much the same applies, it being uncapped as well as doubled vs high health enemies let people oneshot ubby in one tick, so it went from way, way, way too strong to maybe a bit weak. Nontheless a single balance change to one node shouldn't "kill" an entire mastery, the issue would lie in the mastery itself.

[crude plover]

There can be a skill that does 10000x the damage of any other skill and you can handicap yourself into making it ethical, doesn't mean it should stay in

[timid fjord]

reflect druid is great, and is not bugged interaction
🙏 and will surely not be nerfed next season right?

[night quartz]

Pretty sure serpent venom was bugged. Think perrythepig had a video about it.

[merry abyss]

well, having an unlimited scaling is not a bug, unless it was written to have a cap. Now its absolutely unusable. How is this any better?

@timid fjord have you been able to do an uber with it?

[timid fjord]

one kill, dozens of deaths, but was my first time getting to uber ever

[merry abyss]

Damn, GZ. I thought it really is only viable for speed farming. How maxxed out was your gear?

[flint bloom]

This channel is not for conversations

Please use any other channel

[night quartz]

It wasn’t unlimited scaling. It was a bug bug. You can try and find perrythepigs old YouTube video about it

They messed up some check in tje code or something

[lofty plover]

Is there a problem with the servers? It is taking minute or more to change zones or even to get into the game. Also getting disconnected a lot

[final cave]

Would you say your knee is ruined ?

[worthy stump]

is there a version of the cooking recipie in metric?

[jaunty dune]

i know multiple people who have had improved performance by using the -useallavailablecores launch option in steam

edit: saw that mike said it does this automatically - possible that was a more recent change because when my friends started using this was a few patches ago

[misty bobcat]

So what's your conclusion of the story so far? More confused, slightly less confused compared to earlier chapters, still confused but somewhat feeling like getting it? 😄

[placid plinth]

From some very brief investigating with almost nothing to back this up, it appears to be a placebo effect mixed with some correlation of restarting a game.

[jaunty dune]

That's very possible, placebo effect is a hell of a drug

[eternal zinc]

I read the whole story to try find some inspirations for painting. Unfortunately, it bring me more questions want to ask instead of wanting to paint something...

EHG will not help me answering all of my notes in recent time obviously because relevant people busy at their work.

Just a dead loop...

Meet the team? No.
Meet the story? Big no.
Meet the concept art? Giant no.

No idea what can I do else if I want to try painting a few concept art like concept artists of EHG.

Which the hell direction EHG want to go actually? It's the puzzle I can't solve.

What I'm sure I get from this process is I improved my summary skill. Reading abundant paragraphs, analysis their meaning, re-group them, write them in my ways and manage my questions when reading. Never read a short novel in English like that before lol

[vital shard]

move on

[eternal zinc]

?

[tulip ivy]

EHG will go to the direction they have decided. Your concept art has nothing to do with EHG, make what you want without input from them.

If you want to try painting. Just paint what you think is nice as concept art.

[eternal zinc]

Quick question for all weapons and all clothes in le: Which materials are they using? (I mean they inspired by which materials from real world)

Context: https://youtu.be/GUlzFvSDUWY?si=vR7HbndaDgeZWFjs&t=2880

[night quartz]

I don't think they know themselves, you've put more effort into the story of LE than EHG.

[eternal zinc]

I realize maybe it's the reason why many players think mtx in le looks plastic

[pine chasm]

That's more of a "Unity material" issue than a "real world material inspiration" issue.
As a side note, usually a quick question also implies a quick answer, but you are essentially asking for a database - I think that is a bit out of scale to get an answer in here (or anywhere, just due to the scope of work required to answer).

[eternal zinc]

Due to I can't use unity, no idea I have for how materials work in unity. So I ask what are their inspirations only.

[placid plinth]

It'll vary from piece to piece. Generally just an analogues earth era appropriate material. So like the rogue's base outfit belt will be leather and the mage's base robes will be something similar to linen or cotton probably.

The concept art team will do material references for many pieces so that modeling and texturing can have a specific point to go off of. I don't have a place to quickly look all that up but we have shared a few on devstreams in the past which show material references in the image.

[eternal zinc]

Sigh. Deew is right.

The list of materials should be easy to get if they manage inspirations of materials well because many commons must in them.

Like:

Sword/dagger

Common materials: xxxx/xxxx
Exclusive materials for parts of them: xxx for xxxx/xxxx for xxx

[placid plinth]

Yea, I'm sorry but I just don't have the spare time to take several hours and go find all of them for everything.

[eternal zinc]

Not your fault, it's a concept art team's issue, you just coding. You did your best already.

[fast gazelle]

does the giveaway for friday's stream have some sort of country restriction? I'm Brazilian and a lot of giveaways tend to be NA + Europe only

[placid plinth]

No region restrictions. You're good.

[flint bloom]

hey Mike...on stream last you said you all had easier access to certain data in game that players do...i was wondering if you all had access to/tracked what weaver nodes/pathing were most popular. Obv the imprints are big but like the lizard branch compared to the weaver will item branch or how many people took the shade ambush node?

[placid plinth]

I'm not sure if Weaver tree is included, I'll check.

[placid plinth]

yes, would you like to know a specific corruption or level range?

[placid plinth]

here is lvl 70+ and 100+ corruption

[flint bloom]

not any specific levels or ranges. but kind of curious about the shade ambush node and how often people took that. or comparing the lizard branch/weaver branch/exiled mage branch way at the top

yo thats actually exactly what i wanted

[placid plinth]

the brighter the yellow the more it is selected

[night quartz]

do you know how many players in % (accounts, not characters) got to monos, empowered monos, 300c, kill aberroth or uber abby?

[placid plinth]

I just have characters, not accounts

[misty bobcat]

@placid plinth This is really interesting. And surprising. It's a bit hard to tell, because the numbers are blurry. Are you able to visualize this automatically? Wow!
I expected the imprints to be taken much more, but the percentage shows them between 55% - 72% (if my eyes are interpreting them correctly)

[flint bloom]

yeah, you can kinda make out the %'s listed too. crazy the imprints arent 100%. lol

[jaunty dune]

would be interesting to see the numbers for like 90+ & 300 corr+ as well, as those players will have access to a much larger number of points on average

[placid plinth]

yea, muffin has been making this incredible tool lately. It even automatically spits out common archetypes and clusters taken together.

[misty bobcat]

Sometimes the EHG "loremaster" and other EHG team members join Mike's stream.

[night quartz]

i used to spend hours looking at data like that in my old job

[fast gazelle]

ok if this is available for skills too, now I'm curious about how often folks pick stay of execution on Puncture (makes it chargeable)
this type of data tool feels extremely useful

[placid plinth]

ok, last one like this today, come to the dev stream with questions like this and I'll make more of them live. Here is lvl 90+, corruption 300+

[eternal zinc]

What is it?

[fast gazelle]

imprints are very popular

[placid plinth]

heatmap for the weaver tree for all lvl 90+ and corruption 300+ characters in Softcore S3

yea, I should have mentioned that this is just 1.3 SC

(I can do HC too but not at the same time)

[eternal zinc]

What heatmap mean? I'm not sure for xxxx and xxxx is mean what

[placid plinth]

the brighter the yellow, the more people have taken the node.

it's a visual representation of the data of node popularity

[flint bloom]

its actually so cool to see. appreciate you giving us the chance to ask and see this stuff

[placid plinth]

bring more questions for friday, skills, gear, builds, all sorts of stuff, I've got data muahahhaha

[vagrant dagger]

Hello,
Sorry if this is slightly off topic. I currently work as a QA and I’m interested in learning more about QA roles in the video game industry.
Would it be possible to ask a few questions by DM or email to a member of your team?

[fleet galleon]

I imagine you could reach out to support or send dm to @jaunty pier

[pine dome]

Mike, do you have that kind of data for passives and skill nodes too?

[placid plinth]

yup

[pine dome]

Friday can't come fast enough

[placid plinth]

the skills are really cool because you can even multi-select specific nodes and see how frequently other nodes are taken in other skill trees with it

[tulip ivy]

This is awesome. Can also help you infer how many people follow build guides and how many are just playing whatever they want 😄

[placid plinth]

yup

[eternal zinc]

Very cool these database are 👍

[jovial pumice]

Will there be a limit to how many corrupted items can be equipped, or can we go full corrupted gear?

[pine dome]

Is there a best time to ask you a bunch of stats ? Like right before the stream so you show it on stream or smth else ?

[storm carbon]

Could that data breakdown be done for gear? like % breakdown of the top 5 gear items (base or unique) in each slot per mastery or even just class?

[jaunty dune]

i'm curious how multi-point nodes factor into this, does the heatmap treat 1 point in a 3 pointer the same as 3 points in it?

[sturdy ridge]

HI mike , will there be awesome teasers for fridays stream?

[misty bobcat]

At least for builds and unique items you get a hunch by looking at https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/ > right sidebar > scroll down to unique items section.
E.g. RR is second-most used unique after Throne of Ambitions in all builds lastepochtools tracks.

[jaunty dune]

this is extremely limited compared to the data the devs have, only 1200 builds total across the whole history of the game

[placid plinth]

no, and it gives the breakdown if you hover it

[placid plinth]

yup

[jaunty dune]

really cool to see the kind of data you guys have access to, thanks for sharing!

[placid plinth]

I'm planning on taking the questions live and picking some that people seem excited about

[placid plinth]

we have to break it down for mastery and put a little bit of level and corruption minimums to not overload the requests but for example, Druids at 80+L and 200+C, Red Ring isn't even the most popular ring, let alone item. The most popular is Thornshell.

[misty bobcat]

It's where build planners meet reality 😄

[placid plinth]

I don't think there are any restrictions on that at the moment.

[placid plinth]

We are just making some now.

[crude plover]

I thought the arena blocker would be more popular honestly lol

[frank panther]

where dis #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[rustic scarab]

any plans to make skins in offline mode available next season? Moved to a new area with impossible to play internet...

[crude plover]

They should already be

I do think you might have to log into online once just for it to register but after that they should appear in offline

[frank panther]

im surprised boss echo dupe node is less popular. i wonder if there's a chance to see % of max points allocated
only 93% on commoner's ?!
or imprinted echoes

[placid plinth]

to be clear, this is NOT all characters

[pine chasm]

Ironically, they finally gave the ability to block arenas in the same patch where they buffed them up and improved their feel substantially

[placid plinth]

that was very intentional

[frank panther]

do any nodes stand out to you for under/over use?

[placid plinth]

not really, that heatmap looks suspicously like my weaver tree

[hollow agate]

The imprint system forces the main path. You have to take every imprint. It would probably be much more diverse if imprint would be unlock with faction level instead of inside the tree.

[final cave]

Can you get stats like which exalted t8 item bases are the most common in each slot for each mastery?

[placid plinth]

kinda sorta, not really. It's more like pick some features to filter on and then you can see a gear popularity distribution for each slot. Here is an example:
Rogue
Marksman
1.3
Lvl 80+
Corruption 400+
SC
Uses Multishot
Top 10 Gloves

[final cave]

Yeah that still pretty cool 😎 👌 sounds like muffin is a very busy baker

[placid plinth]

yea, seems like new features are getting added every couple days right now

[timid fjord]

🤔 what in the world makes multishot build use stormhide as most popular choice?

[placid plinth]

well, the sweet thing about this is I can click on the gloves and then see what else those people are using.
Hearseeker, Smoke Bomb, Shift, Puncture generally used. Snowblind, Nihilis, Elecoe's Innovation, Mourningfrost, Troaka's Teeth, Red Ring and Reign of Winter are pretty common pieces that go with it.

[timid fjord]

ooh ic, I swear if I had access to that data I could lose days just looking at the weirdest things 😅

[placid plinth]

yup, wish we could expose this but it is a dev only tool.

[timid fjord]

yeah thats understandable, thankfully we have friday streams then 😄

[placid plinth]

yea, looking forward to it, I also finally found my frailty amulet so we're cooking now

[deft perch]

I think this is a goldmine. If you're ever short on teasers/spoilers just start breaking into the data tool, it is just as interesting if not more so in some cases

[eternal zinc]

Muffin is the people who made these database summary?

I wonder can all of these database be publicly

[placid plinth]

No, that's what I was saying above.